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Title: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Darkstarshades on March 20, 2016, 12:00:03 AM
I was listening to a few metal focused DT song and I couldn't feel like they just kick some serious ass, they make me feel powerful, and with headache because of the headbanging.

But not only the riff, the lyrics, they really feel like some serious mofo is doing shit with everything.
The song I'd rank as being the most badass is probably Lost not Forgotten, man, so much kickassery, the whole intro, the verse riff and the ending, fuck.
This is on pair with The Path that Divides, am I the only one that thinks Daryus kicks so much ass and DT has actually created a very badass character? Wish they had explored him a lil' more.

(Just for fun)
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 20, 2016, 03:25:38 AM
Lost Not Forgotten is a song that seems to get ignored or not that well-liked around here, but not by me. Good choice.

But when it comes to "bad-ass metal" one of the first DT songs that comes to MY mind is Lie. I could easily see this song being recorded by a band like Metallica or Megadeth, among others.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 20, 2016, 03:28:05 AM
The Dark Eternal Night. Pretty badass from start to finish, especially that outro riff/solo. :metal
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Enigmachine on March 20, 2016, 05:25:16 AM
The Glass Prison, dude.

Also, A Tempting Offer is quite a badass song for Daryus.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Mladen on March 20, 2016, 06:56:09 AM
I think The Glass prison is a really good choice.

Other possibilities: Beyond this life, In the presence of enemies, The Path that divides, Caught in a web, This dying soul.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: AngelBack on March 20, 2016, 07:31:08 AM
Pinch harmonics in Honor Thy Father make me want to hit something!
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: ZKX-2099 on March 20, 2016, 07:44:15 AM
I! AM! THE! LAST!
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 20, 2016, 07:48:06 AM
Yeah. "The Glass Prison" or "The Dark Eternal Night". I'm also a fan of "A Nightmare To Remember" and "The Enemy Inside".
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 20, 2016, 08:20:18 AM
Yeah. "The Glass Prison" or "The Dark Eternal Night". I'm also a fan of "A Nightmare To Remember" and "The Enemy Inside".
Yes, intro to Nightmare to Remember is pretty badass.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: wideworldofmike on March 20, 2016, 08:57:57 AM
Enemy inside intro, the mirror intro, pull me under chorus, as I am,
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: erwinrafael on March 20, 2016, 09:46:07 AM
The Mirror. That's like, we play with just one bad ass riff and make a full bad ass song out of it with one of the most bad ass vocals and lyrics you would hear in a DT song.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: jakepriest on March 20, 2016, 09:57:27 AM
The Dark Eternal Night outro. So energy, powah.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on March 20, 2016, 10:39:19 AM
The first guitar solo in Ministry of Lost Souls immediately comes to mind for me.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: link2tau on March 20, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
The intro to Panic Attack. Bass line into the riff with machine gun Portnoy. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Wither on March 20, 2016, 11:01:46 AM
I think In the Name of God's duet solo by Rudess and Petrucci was one of the most badass moments.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on March 20, 2016, 11:09:32 AM
"Don't cross the crooked step"
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Polarbear on March 20, 2016, 11:58:25 AM
Lines in the Sand intro, and the whole song!

I LOVE Derek's synths in that song!

(Also mostly everything that has been mentioned by other people already..)
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 20, 2016, 02:42:17 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Tomislav95 on March 20, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!
It definitely is one badass groovy song :tup
Another example, not so heavy as some others but equally badass: 6:00, JP's wah solo and James' powerful vocals after that (love Luna Park version with scream).
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on March 20, 2016, 02:56:36 PM
Train of Thought holds most 'badass' moments in DT's discography, me thinks.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: The Astonished on March 20, 2016, 02:59:30 PM
I gotta say Honor Thy Father's intro! Gets me pumped like hell.  :metal
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 20, 2016, 03:01:39 PM
I think Systematic Chaos is pretty much equal with Train of thought. But I'm surprised no one has mentioned As I Am yet..."swimming against the current/I wish I weren't so ----ed/feels like I'm stuck..."
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Enigmachine on March 20, 2016, 03:08:22 PM
"swimming against the current/I wish I weren't so ----ed/feels like I'm stuck..."

You don't have to censor that word, you know.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 20, 2016, 03:58:13 PM
It was meant as  fcensoreding humor...that ever OCCUR to you??
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Enigmachine on March 20, 2016, 04:06:04 PM
It was meant as  fcensoreding humor...that ever OCCUR to you??

No, it didn't.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 20, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Just so there's no misunderstanding: I'm 100% against censorship, except in certain common-sense areas and situations.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 01:42:18 PM
I'm not really sure what's meant by "badass," but given the way that I take the meaning of the word and what others have said in this thread I'd have to say that the following obviously qualify:

- intro to This Dying Soul

- The "don't cross the crooked step" part of Honor thy Father

- The Glass Prison (multiple sections -- I'm sure you all know which ones I'm referring to)

- The outro of Dark Eternal Night (along with some other parts)

- 11:05-11:21 of Nightmare to Remember

And I'd have to say that the following fail horribly at being badass purely in virtue of the fact that they try to be badass but end up just not working:

-  11:21-11:57 of Nightmare to Remember. Yes, that section. You know the one.

Of course this all depends on how you interpret "badass." I kinda think the alto sax solo in Another Day is badass in a kind of way, so don't take what I say too seriously.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 21, 2016, 02:58:20 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!

Boo
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: PwnsomeWin on March 21, 2016, 03:20:37 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!
I thought I was the only one that loved that song! So happy!
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 21, 2016, 03:30:54 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!

Boo

like I was GOING to say: "Too late! I already got some positive responses!"
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
I get a lot of "boos from the audience" whenever I mention this one, but I'm going to include it anyway: Just Let Me Breathe!

The lyrics are horrid, but I'll be damned if the JP/DS split unison isn't freaking amazing. Good call!

An aside: I vaguely recall an article from way back in the 90's where someone commented on how tedious it was to achieve the split effect in the unison. Of course these days with the software that's available the effect is trivial to achieve...
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Wither on March 21, 2016, 04:34:08 PM
I might be the one of the few people who would say this, but a badass moment is Portnoy's ROAR on ANTR.

Portnoy sounds so badass at that part.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaossystem on March 21, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
A lot of people hate it, but I love it in an amused sort of way. I have to LAUGH every time I hear it.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Iceyice on March 21, 2016, 05:30:27 PM
I thought it was wack at first, but the chant part to 'In the presence of enemies Part 2.'

"HEY.....HEY.....HEY.....!"
Then the double bass when James says, 'Lord you are my god and my shepherd, nothing more shall i want.'
Still get chills at that part.

Earlier on, when i first heard 'The Mirror' go seamlessly into 'Lie,' while listening on a walkman back then!

Now, it's the 'is it or isn't it a rap' rap in 'The path that divides.'  I was saying the other day that it is maybe the most badass thing i've heard in the last 5 years or so. Still can't listen to that without replaying it over and over.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 08:18:29 PM
I might be the one of the few people who would say this, but a badass moment is Portnoy's ROAR on ANTR.

Portnoy sounds so badass at that part.

i'm totally conflicted about this section of ANTR, because it's a genuine attempt by Portnoy (and I assume the rest of the band) to sound badass. And I can totally dig what they were trying to do. But it just doesn't work for me. Maybe it's the lyrical content, or maybe it's the way it's delivered. But my eyes involuntarily roll up into the back of my head (indicating lameness) while the rational part of my brain simultaneously respects what they were trying to do.  It's one of the weirdest parts of DT's catalog for me, in any case.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Darkstarshades on July 23, 2016, 04:49:02 AM
In the Name of God main riff reprise after unison. Most airdrumming/headbanging moment for me
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Sycsa on July 23, 2016, 12:50:02 PM
When I read the word "badass," the passage I immediately thought of was the "Back on my feet again" guitar groove in Strange Déja-Vu. Another part like that is the "Straight is the path" section of ITNOG.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Imaginos on July 23, 2016, 06:32:56 PM
First thing I thought of was the "Blood heal me, Fear change me" part of Scarred. Love that part.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: SeRoX on July 24, 2016, 06:27:18 PM
Angels fall
All for you
Heretic...

Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: chaotic_ripper on July 24, 2016, 07:01:45 PM
When I read the word "badass," the passage I immediately thought of was the "Back on my feet again" guitar groove in Strange Déja-Vu. Another part like that is the "Straight is the path" section of ITNOG.

Yes! To both of those!
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: jakepriest on July 24, 2016, 07:57:24 PM
The part when the slow riff in The Glass Prison kicks in and the drums join it a few seconds later is the definitive DT badass moment for me.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on July 27, 2016, 06:19:33 AM
Stream of Consciousness. All of it. 
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Ninjabait on July 27, 2016, 12:00:29 PM
The band re-entry and all of "The Pursuit of Truth" from Illumination Theory. Everything from the riff to the vocals/lyrics to the epic piano solos is just incredible. "Don't cross the crooked step" from Honor Thy Father, the intros to A Nightmare to Remember and The Shattered Fortress, all of Lost Not Forgotten, the ending of Outcry, the main riff from Systematic Chaos, and the "Bow down to Nafaryus" part of Three Days are good examples too.

And, it's a bit cheating, but "Razor's Edge" from Octavarium fits this in a "completely majestic" sort of way.
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: soupytwist on July 28, 2016, 05:07:14 AM
At 1.44 in "Home".   You know it's been building to something good, but Christ it's explodes in.   Then at 2.05 amazingly it get more fucking epic.   The coolest thing about the riff is it vaguely danceable!

Probably wouldn't class it a badass, but it sends shiners down my spine - When 'Ministry of Lost Souls' comeback after the Instrumental break...'Don't turn your back on PARAAAAADISE'....to closure is magical..
Title: Re: Most badass DT song/moment
Post by: Shooters1221 on July 28, 2016, 06:28:02 AM
I'm gonna go with the opening run to ItPoE- pt.1 - Just a badass way to start an album. It's up there with Rush's Moving Pictures and that one awesome opening note. That's where the comparisons end though.