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Title: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 11:23:55 AM
 :omg:

Annoy your fellow DTF poster !

List your opinions about movies that differ from "the norm".

I'll start !!!!!

The " Match Cut " in 2001 is one of the sloppiest cuts in movie history and incredibly un-noteworthy. Even for the time they could have done better than that and I can't believe Kubrick

thought that was good enough.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 08, 2016, 11:38:36 AM
Can't wait to see Blob lose it.


I've enjoyed the last 2 Star Trek Movies more than any Next Generation movies except for First Contact.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 11:40:13 AM
Can't wait to see Blob lose it.


I've enjoyed the last 2 Star Trek Movies more than any Next Generation movies except for First Contact.

Me too. In spite of their problems - they're entertaining as hell.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: kaos2900 on March 08, 2016, 11:49:48 AM
Episode III is a top 3 Star Wars Movie.

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 11:51:45 AM
Episode III is a top 3 Star Wars Movie.

Steady on ! :lol


It's easily the best of the prequels .
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 08, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Watchmen is one of the toughest movies I've ever had to sit through. While not as bad as Sucker Punch (both would be in my top10 worst films), I started watching the clock during the opening credits almost. That movie did not suck me in at all, and it felt like watching paint dry for 3 hours.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
I prefer Superman Returns to Man of Steel.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 08, 2016, 12:16:21 PM
I prefer Superman Returns to Man of Steel.

I am the opposite of you on this.

Watchmen is one of the toughest movies I've ever had to sit through. While not as bad as Sucker Punch (both would be in my top10 worst films), I started watching the clock during the opening credits almost. That movie did not suck me in at all, and it felt like watching paint dry for 3 hours.

I agree with Sucker Punch but Watchman was not that bad at all.  I loved the opening sequence.

Episode III is a top 3 Star Wars Movie.



I like III more than VI.  That's it though.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
I've never heard anything good about Sucker Punch.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: MirrorMask on March 08, 2016, 12:31:55 PM
Not against a specific movie, but there are two movies tropes I'm very sick of:

- Sex scenes. The woman is a wonderful wild beast of desire, she makes love like she's a pro, but comes moring she becomes a prude and she covers her chest with the sheets... in every damn movie since the invention of cinema.

Look, I completely understand that not every movie can be a porn, or an adult oriented one. I'm fine with actors not showing their nudity. But really, in all these decades no one was ever able to come up with another way to not show nudity than "Hey I let you bang my brains out but now all of a sudden I feel ashamed to show you my body and I will cover completely with the sheets"??? just cut the sex scene altogether, there are ways to let the audience know a couple had sex without having to show them in bed.

- People starting to talk "exotic" languages for no absolutely darn reason at all.

Peter Jackson is the worst offender of this. Elves talk to themselves in english, and then they stick a single word of elvish here and there. There's a movie set in Japan? you can bet your ass the japanese characters speak english, but at the beginning or the end they say a word or a sentence in japanese.

WHY, WHY, WHYYYYYY??!??!?!?! who ever in the entire history of mankind talked like that? I'm italian, it's like if I would say at the end of a dinner at the restaurant "Bene ragazzi, la cena è stata molto buona. Now let's go home" *. WHO DOES THAT? absolutely nobody. But in movies this happen. Please stop it.

*translation is: "Ok guys, dinner was very good".
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 12:34:09 PM
Welsh people talk like that :lol

Ble mae yr bottle of milk ?

Oh maen mewn yr fridge at the back .

:lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 08, 2016, 01:00:08 PM
I know a number of people who are fluent in English and Spanish who switch back and forth, sometimes in the middle of a sentence.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Accelerando on March 08, 2016, 01:25:39 PM
Tarantino's best film is Inglorious Basterds, not Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 08, 2016, 01:36:08 PM
Avatar is completely overrated. Doesn't stand up to repeat viewings.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 08, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
Citizen Kane?  Boring.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 08, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
John Wayne's best movie is not one where he plays a cowboy. 


Any guesses?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 08, 2016, 02:23:24 PM
John Wayne's best movie is not one where he plays a cowboy. 


Any guesses?

The Quiet Man?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on March 08, 2016, 02:35:46 PM
John Wayne's best movie is not one where he plays a cowboy. 


Any guesses?

The Conqueror. Duh.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 08, 2016, 02:55:58 PM
John Wayne's best movie is not one where he plays a cowboy. 


Any guesses?

The Quiet Man?

This is my answer.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 08, 2016, 03:11:36 PM
Yay!! Lucky guess! Where do I collect my prize?  :lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 08, 2016, 03:40:31 PM
If we can also bring up annoying tropes, I thought of one when I was watching Lost. Two people from the same foreign language, speaking English in conversation with each other for no reason. Maybe it's the fact that I'm used to subtitles and don't mind it, but it's so weird if you have two characters from the same country speaking english just for the viewer.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on March 08, 2016, 03:42:48 PM
If we can also bring up annoying tropes, I thought of one when I was watching Lost. Two people from the same foreign language, speaking English in conversation with each other for no reason. Maybe it's the fact that I'm used to subtitles and don't mind it, but it's so weird if you have two characters from the same country speaking english just for the viewer.

You mean Jin and Sun?

I can say, living in a non-English speaking country, often times people who DO speak the same language will choose to speak the language of the people around them just to keep up their practice.

I doubt that's why Lost did it, but still.

Actually To Be or Not to Be with Mel Books covered that well. They start off speaking Polish, then a narrator says that they're going to switch to English to save everyone a headache.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 08, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
If we can also bring up annoying tropes, I thought of one when I was watching Lost. Two people from the same foreign language, speaking English in conversation with each other for no reason. Maybe it's the fact that I'm used to subtitles and don't mind it, but it's so weird if you have two characters from the same country speaking english just for the viewer.

You mean Jin and Sun?

I can say, living in a non-English speaking country, often times people who DO speak the same language will choose to speak the language of the people around them just to keep up their practice.

I doubt that's why Lost did it, but still.

Actually To Be or Not to Be with Mel Books covered that well. They start off speaking Polish, then a narrator says that they're going to switch to English to save everyone a headache.

No, it was Sayid and his officer/general in the Iraqi army. Hence why it was so weird since there were no english people around, and took place at their base I guess. I guess the simple solution might be that the actors don't know the language sometimes, and only learn a sentence or two, but it's still a bit weird sometimes. They greet in their own language, and then continue in english. :P
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on March 08, 2016, 03:47:48 PM
Ohhhhh yea. I totally agree. In this case, the dude playing Sayyid isn't Arab lol, so I'm guessing he's not going to learn Arabic for a few minutes of a scene.

But yea, that general idea bugs me a lot too.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: pogoowner on March 08, 2016, 03:55:19 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 04:24:08 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

I agree. I always thought The Dark Knight had too many acts and too many characters and I don't know what's going on most of the time.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 08, 2016, 04:29:19 PM
It's like I don't even know you anymore.  :lol

Yay!! Lucky guess! Where do I collect my prize?  :lol

A virtual high five?

/:
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: KevShmev on March 08, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
Tarantino's best film is Inglorious Basterds, not Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs

I might agree with this (although I still need to see the The Hateful Eight).  Basterds and Pulp Fiction are 1a and 1b for me, and I love Jackie Brown almost as much. 
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
I definitely preferred Django to Inglourious.

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: pogoowner on March 08, 2016, 05:52:06 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

I agree. I always thought The Dark Knight had too many acts and too many characters and I don't know what's going on most of the time.
I think he has a tendency to make his movies too long, too big in scope, too involved, etc., and it ultimately weighs everything down. Batman Begins is not a short movie by any means, but compared to the other two, it sure feels like it. It is a little shorter, but it's mainly just more focused.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 08, 2016, 05:56:34 PM
I'm not the best at following plots but The Dark Knight is like ??? what ?

I have no idea what the chinese ?? guy has to do with the plot and i've seen the film several times.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: orcus116 on March 08, 2016, 07:15:12 PM
I sort of mentioned this in the Pixar thread but UP is an amazing 10 minute short film that is followed by a plodding run of the mill stupid kids movie.

The Life Aquatic is Wes Anderson's best movie and The Royal Tenenbaums is fairly boring.

I don't understand the popularity of Scarface since he's not even entertaining in how unlikeable he gets.

This one may not be really controversial since I've read similar pieces online, including Ebert's review, but that one scene at the end of Super made me so uncomfortable that it completely ruined my thoughts on the movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: pogoowner on March 08, 2016, 08:15:04 PM
The Life Aquatic is Wes Anderson's best movie
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: jingle.boy on March 08, 2016, 08:23:06 PM
In Bruges dragged on, and on, and on....

Battleship was entertaining, as was John Carter.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 08, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
A couple of my own:

1. Mars Attacks! is a great movie. Weird, but great. How my parents let me watch that movie when I was 7 I can't understand.

2. Airheads, Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore and Little Nicky are great movies.
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Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: orcus116 on March 08, 2016, 09:18:55 PM
I thought the majority of people loved Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore but hate the rest of the Sandler movies.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on March 08, 2016, 09:22:01 PM
I thought the majority of people loved Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore but hate the rest of the Sandler movies.

There's actually quite a few Adam Sandler movies that I like.

Billy Madison
Happy Gilmore
Airheads
Punch Drunk Love
Spanglish
Reign Over Me
Wedding Singer
Funny People

And there's more like Bulletproof and Click that are watchable but not great.

Sadly his bad movies are SO bad, that they tend to overshadow the good ones.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 08, 2016, 09:23:10 PM
Citizen Kane?  Boring.

more like Citizen Lame amirite. 

To be fair, I could never engage in it enough to sit through the whole thing, so it's 'boring' to me, but I haven't given it a fair suck. 

Sandler comedies turned to absolute shit after Little Nicky.  Some of the shit he comes up with now is so bad it's hard to tell whether he's taking the piss sometimes. Jack and Jill, That's My Boy... what the fuck man how many pots have you smoken? 
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: ozzy554 on March 08, 2016, 09:26:32 PM
I liked thats my boy and thought Dumb and Dumber To was alright.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 08, 2016, 09:27:17 PM
Dumb and Dumber To was alright.

he was in that?
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Post by: ozzy554 on March 08, 2016, 09:30:18 PM
nope. Just another unpopular movie opinion.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 08, 2016, 10:29:45 PM
I thought the majority of people loved Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore but hate the rest of the Sandler movies.

If you like any Sandler movies at all, those are the two. I even agree with SebastianPratesi's other two picks. But it's fairly universal to hate everything he's done in the past 15 years or so.

Ok, where do I start with my controversy-

2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.
Blade Runner is also boring.
Star Wars Ep 3 is just as worthless as the other two PT movies.
The Dark Knight was laughably awful. Batman Begins was dull and silly, but it was watchable. Of course I haven't watched TDKR (or any other superhero / comic book movie since).

Enjoy, DTF. :lol I'm sure I'll think of more later.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Sacul on March 08, 2016, 11:28:07 PM
2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.
This x1000. I thought the book might be better, but it's equally dreadful and the ending makes absolute no sense  :facepalm:

Some opinions:

Reservoir Dogs might be my least favorite Tarantino movie. Either that one or Inglorious Bastards - what a stupid, cringe movie.
Oh wait that might be Jackie Brown - couldn't even finish it  :lol
The Godfather is ok.
Psycho, while I respect it for the merits of its own time and blahblahblah, it's just meh at best tbh.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Crow on March 08, 2016, 11:37:07 PM
at this point in my life the only movie i ever have the desire to rewatch anymore is 12 angry men

i've watched it like 4-5 times in total now, and i basically never rewatch anything else

most of the other movies i watch are animated these days tbh, inside out was the best movie i saw last year though i think i only saw like... two movies total so w/e
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 09, 2016, 02:27:55 AM
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2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.
Agreed
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Blade Runner is also boring.
Agreed
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Star Wars Ep 3 is just as worthless as the other two PT movies.
Almost agree, but thought it was slightly better. Still, it's almost like comparing which of 3 turds is most pleasing to the eye.  :P
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The Dark Knight was laughably awful. Batman Begins was dull and silly, but it was watchable. Of course I haven't watched TDKR (or any other superhero / comic book movie since).
Can't quite go there. I liked all 3. They were miles better than the bat movies that came before. Bat nipples anyone?  :lol

I prefer Superman Returns to Man of Steel.

I never really understood the hate for SR. I thought it was ok.
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Post by: Zantera on March 09, 2016, 03:19:22 AM
I haven't watched Superman Returns, but from what I've heard it's more of a drama film about an alien trying to blend in with society and how he can't relate to the woman he loves, or humans for that matter. If that is true, that still sounds more interesting than Superman destroying Smallville and Metropolis for an hour. It might not be the exciting Superman-film that everyone wanted, but it still sounds like an interesting idea.

After re-watching the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy recently, I must say that I stand by my opinion that Spider-Man 3 is far from as bad as people make it out to be. It has some bad scenes (any of the music/dance numbers) and it throws in a few too many storylines, but I would still say it's a good, but flawed film. If the first movie was an 8.5 out of 10 and the second a 10 out of 10, I'd still say the third was maybe a 7 or 7.5 for me.

And on the topic of third movies in franchises, I think The Dark Knight Rises gets far too much hate. I remember when it came out that a lot of people thought it was the best of the franchise, but over time it seemed like the opinions changed over to "it sucks". It doesn't have The Joker, but I would still say it is a good movie. I think if TDKR had been the second and TDK the third, I think reception would have been better. I think TDKR similar to Spider-Man 3 gets a lot of hate just for the fact that it was the third film and followed what was arguably the best film of the series, and 2 of the best critically received superhero films of all time.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 04:01:17 AM
I think Rises is just fine and I might actually prefer it to The Dark Knight.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: kaos2900 on March 09, 2016, 06:50:13 AM
I find all of the Mad Maxx movies along with Blade Runner to be highly overrated and overly boring.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 09, 2016, 08:07:41 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.
Star Wars Ep 3 is just as worthless as the other two PT movies.
The Dark Knight was laughably awful. Batman Begins was dull and silly, but it was watchable. Of course I haven't watched TDKR (or any other superhero / comic book movie since).

Agree on 2001, but disagree on Episode 3. The scene were Anakin is in the middle of the ground full of lava is really cool in my opinion.
About The Dark Knight: what did you think of Heath Ledger's performance? I thought it was amazing, and the only thing I liked of any Batman I've watched.

EDIT: sorry, changed a couple of words so as not to spoil anything for people who haven't seen it :P
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2016, 08:21:02 AM
Hudson Hawk is the best film most of you have never seen.
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Post by: Zantera on March 09, 2016, 08:23:54 AM
I've actually seen Hudson Hawk but didn't like it at all. Something about the tone was just really off to me. It was supposed to be an action-comedy (I guess) but the comedy fell really flat for me. Compared to something like Naked Gun which is genius, Hudson Hawk didn't do it for me. But it did have Frank Stallone in it, so 10/10.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2016, 08:27:35 AM
I've actually seen Hudson Hawk but didn't like it at all. Something about the tone was just really off to me. It was supposed to be an action-comedy (I guess) but the comedy fell really flat for me. Compared to something like Naked Gun which is genius, Hudson Hawk didn't do it for me. But it did have Frank Stallone in it, so 10/10.
Well, the genre is not so iron-clad.  It is, in many ways, a musical. 

But it has Bruce Willis, and action, and comedy.  But it is in many ways non-literal and absurdist. 

It can be off-putting if you expect it to be one thing (or set of things) and it turns out to be something else entirely.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: ozzy554 on March 09, 2016, 08:34:07 AM
Spiderman 3 isnt as bad as people make it out to be.

I like Indiana Jones 4.

The star wars prequel trilogy isn't that bad. They arent exactly good :lol but they are not THAT bad.

I like Son of frankenstein more than Bride of Frankenstein.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 09, 2016, 08:35:41 AM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.
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Post by: gmillerdrake on March 09, 2016, 08:43:10 AM
Hudson Hawk is the best film most of you have never seen.

I love Hudson Hawk and always expected a sequel.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 08:43:25 AM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.

You know, I've never actually seen a movie with Ben Affleck in it. Or Matt Damon (although I've seen him in TV series). Or that Channing Tatum guy (unless you count voicing a character). Every time I see his name mentioned I have to look him up to see what he looks like, and every single time I forget again. He's either the most generic looking dude ever, or he's a part of The Silence from Doctor Who.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: wizard of Thought on March 09, 2016, 08:44:37 AM
The Matrix is one of the most overrated movies ever. I mean the movie is alright I guess, but the "philosophy" and plot gets completely hilarious at some point ("There is no spoon.") and I don`t get the universal praise for the movie anyway and I normally love Cyberpunk scenarios like this.

2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.

While I personally do not agree (I really like the movie), I see why it might be a very boring watch for some people as the plot progression is quite slow and the ending is one of the weirdest things I`ve ever seen, I actually understood the story much better after reading the book and watching the movie again.

Star Wars Ep 3 is just as worthless as the other two PT movies.

Is this even controversial? :P
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 08:46:01 AM
The Last Boyscout is Bruce Willis' best movie behind DH 1&2.

Oh, and Die Hard 3 suck's monkey balls.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 08:49:23 AM
2001: A Space Odyssey is boring and pretentious.

While I personally do not agree (I really like the movie), I see why it might be a very boring watch for some people as the plot progression is quite slow and the ending is one of the weirdest things I`ve ever seen, I actually understood the story much better after reading the book and watching the movie again.


I didn't read the book, but after my first viewing I did read up to understand it, and then watched it again, and still thought it was equally bad. My friend watched it with me the second time, and had the exact same reaction. Obviously not my kind of movie.

Oh, and Die Hard 3 suck's monkey balls.

You must mean Die Hard 2.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.
Well, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 09, 2016, 09:24:27 AM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.
Well, that explains a lot.

 :lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 10:12:21 AM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.
Well, that explains a lot.

 :lol

But aren't the Na'vi superheroes?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 10:20:49 AM
Hudson Hawk is the best film most of you have never seen.


I've seen it. It's shite.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2016, 10:23:54 AM
Hudson Hawk is the best film most of you have never seen.


I've seen it. It's shite.
That's not a controversial opinion, but thanks anyway.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 10:28:02 AM
ok.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on March 09, 2016, 01:13:52 PM

You know, I've never actually seen a movie with Ben Affleck in it.

Not even Mallrats (or other Kevin Smith movies)?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 09, 2016, 01:36:31 PM
So let's start with a minor roll Blob,  School Ties.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 09, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Pretty good movie.

For my movie, his best acting performance was in The Town.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 09, 2016, 01:54:50 PM

Oh, and Die Hard 3 suck's monkey balls.


I don't know how to process that.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 09, 2016, 01:59:49 PM


Live Free or Die Hard is the best Die Hard. There, I said it.

*runs for cover*
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 02:00:02 PM
Every single Kevin Smith movie is dogshit.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 09, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
For my movie, his best acting performance was in The Town.

Not Pearl Harbour or Armageddon then?  :lol

Haven't see The Town, but he was good in Argo.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: ZirconBlue on March 09, 2016, 02:34:17 PM
The Last Boyscout is Bruce Willis' best movie behind DH 1&2.

I think The Last Boyscout is my favorite action movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 02:41:45 PM
Die Hard 3 is better than Die Hard 2.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on March 09, 2016, 03:00:22 PM
Die Hard 3 is better than Die Hard 2.

I think Die Hard 3 is a better movie, but not a better Die Hard movie.  In fact, it wasn't originally written as a Die Hard movie.  They just shoved John McClane into an existing script.
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Post by: Adami on March 09, 2016, 04:06:41 PM


Live Free or Die Hard is the best Die Hard. There, I said it.

*runs for cover*

Is that the one with Justin Long or the Russia one?

The Justin Long one isn't a bad action movie. Just not a good Die Hard movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 04:08:37 PM
Yeah nobody could think Die Hard 5 was the best one. It's not even a good movie.
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Post by: jingle.boy on March 09, 2016, 05:57:54 PM
I wouldn't call Die Hard 4 (the hi-tech one with Justin Long) the best, but it's certainly better than 3 or 5.

1&2 are in a class of their own.

Every single Kevin Smith movie is dogshit.

How is this controversial?  Other than Clerks, what has he done of any consequence?
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 09, 2016, 05:58:46 PM
Die Hard > Die Hard 3 > Die Hard 2 > Die Hard 4 > Home Alone 3 > Die Hard 5
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 09, 2016, 09:18:11 PM
Die Hard > Die Hard 3 > Die Hard 4 > Die Hard 2

Haven't bothered with 5.
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Post by: Zook on March 09, 2016, 09:24:42 PM
I wouldn't call Die Hard 4 (the hi-tech one with Justin Long) the best, but it's certainly better than 3 or 5.

1&2 are in a class of their own.


Die Hard 2 has some of the worst acting I've ever seen in a movie. 3 is awesome. Definitely my favorite. 4 wasn't bad, but suffered the PG13 treatment. The unrated cut was a little better, but was kinda awkward with random ADR "fucks" thrown in. 5 was so disappointing it makes me sad. Of course the first movie is tits.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 05:35:07 AM
Die Hard > Die Hard 3 > Die Hard 4 > Die Hard 2

Haven't bothered with 5.

We align in this aspect for the most part. Though I might actually favor 3 over the original. I don't like 2 at all and I like 4 because of the whole hacking aspect.
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Post by: Chino on March 10, 2016, 05:43:15 AM
Die Hard 4 was the first Die Hard film I saw. I absolutely love it. I gave the first movie a chance was found myself pretty bored.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 05:50:36 AM
Die Hard 4 was the first Die Hard film I saw. I absolutely love it. I gave the first movie a chance was found myself pretty bored.

Now that's the first time I've heard someone seeing 4 first. It's definitely enjoyable.
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Post by: Bolsters on March 10, 2016, 05:52:00 AM
The fourth one annoys me. The entire truck/jet sequence in particular.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2016, 06:02:56 AM
Why does Chino's opinion not surprise me? :facepalm:

4 is ridiculous, but still a lot of fun. But the first one is iconic.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 06:04:10 AM
Why does Chino's opinion not surprise me? :facepalm:

4 is ridiculous, but still a lot of fun. But the first one is iconic.

Exactly! It's ridiculous because I kept expecting Justin Long to ask if they were using Macs for the hacking.  :lol
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 06:06:41 AM
Die Hard 4 was good but it has Kevin Smith in it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2016, 06:07:38 AM
Why does Chino's opinion not surprise me? :facepalm:

4 is ridiculous, but still a lot of fun. But the first one is iconic.

Exactly! It's ridiculous because I kept expecting Justin Long to ask if they were using Macs for the hacking.  :lol

What ever happened to him after that movie? I've seen him in several comedies, but since Die Hard, he seemed to disappear entirely.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 06:07:54 AM
Die Hard 4 was good but it has Kevin Smith in it.

 :lol

What's your issue with Kevin Smith?
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 06:08:18 AM
Why does Chino's opinion not surprise me? :facepalm:

4 is ridiculous, but still a lot of fun. But the first one is iconic.




Don't bother with 5. It's not even Die Hard. In the first two films - John McLane is just some guy in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In 5 - he may as well be Arnie. He's basically a superhero in it.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2016, 06:12:45 AM
I'm not much into action movies anyway. I watched Die Hard 4 because someone lent me a copy, and I liked the franchise. The trailer for 5 didn't interest me one bit.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 06:14:06 AM
When I lived near my bro in England - we would always hook up to go and watch crappy movies at the cinema just for the laughs.

We saw Total Recall 2012 - it was terrible - but looked nice

Die Hard 5 - which was awful and looked terrible.

RoboCop 2014 - which we both actually really liked.


In fact since this is the controversial movie thread - i'd even say Robocop 2014 was better than Robocop 2.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 06:15:48 AM
I'm not much into action movies anyway. I watched Die Hard 4 because someone lent me a copy, and I liked the franchise. The trailer for 5 didn't interest me one bit.

Same here. I'm picky about the action movies I choose to watch.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 10, 2016, 06:21:50 AM
In fact since this is the controversial movie thread - i'd even say Robocop 2014 was better than Robocop 2.

I'd say pretty much anything is better than Robocop 2. I didn't realise they had made a 3rd one, but Peter Weller had the good sense to bail on that one.

I thought the 2014 one was ok, but for me it goes in the "didn't need to be made" category.  :)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2016, 06:22:24 AM
In fact since this is the controversial movie thread - i'd even say Robocop 2014 was better than Robocop 2.

I didn't hate the new Robocop, but I wouldn't compare it to the first two at all (I actually love the second movie). Better than the third movie though.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 06:32:46 AM

I thought the 2014 one was ok, but for me it goes in the "didn't need to be made" category.  :)

Didn't need to be made.

Was really good for those type of "brand recognition quick buck" remakes.

I think it did the best it could. It wasn't a complete remake and wasn't quite a sequel. It even had some new ideas the originals didn't.

I read that the studio were constantly asking the director to throw stuff out - to make it more PG-13... I'd love to see the film he imagined.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 10, 2016, 06:42:36 AM
I think Joel Kinnaman was a more likable Murphy than Peter Weller. I liked him in The Killing on Netflix, if you have watched that..

The thing with the OTT violence in the original, it was done on purpose as a statement on the culture at that time. The new one was more of a straight up action movie, rather than trying to make any social comment.

PG-13 is what sells the tickets..  ;)
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 10, 2016, 06:47:16 AM
I miss the days when movies were made to the rating that was called for, instead of some dude in a suit deciding every single movie on earth should be PG-13 because money.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 10, 2016, 06:49:17 AM
I miss the days when movies were made to the rating that was called for, instead of some dude in a suit deciding every single movie on earth should be PG-13 because money.

^ Terminator series..
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 10, 2016, 07:05:17 AM
Die Hard 4 was the first Die Hard film I saw.
Why would the fourth part of anything be the first one you see?

And don't mention Star Wars.  That was the first one.
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Post by: Zantera on March 10, 2016, 07:31:50 AM
I actually liked Die Hard 4. Is it as good as the movies before? No, but I still thought it did a fairly good job in terms of how a modern Die Hard movie would look. I think people hate on it way too much, especially when Die Hard 5 was such a crapfest. The 5th one makes the 4th look like Citizen Kane. One of the most unexciting action movies I've ever seen. Bruce Willis looked like he wanted to take a nap through the whole film, and they didn't even try to make it exciting. "I guess i'm going to Russia now", and then quotes like "I got nothing better to do" and everyone just seemed bored.

The first one is still the best by far though. As much as I enjoy 2, 3 and 4, the original is the only one that I would call a masterpiece.
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Post by: Chino on March 10, 2016, 07:45:26 AM
Die Hard 4 was the first Die Hard film I saw.
Why would the fourth part of anything be the first one you see?

I had a date planned and she wanted to see it.

I actually liked Die Hard 4. Is it as good as the movies before? No, but I still thought it did a fairly good job in terms of how a modern Die Hard movie would look. I think people hate on it way too much

I'm basing this off of only the opinions of my friends, but the fact that it was PG-13 turned a lot of people off. One refuses to see it because it's not rated R.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 10, 2016, 07:49:28 AM
1. What are your opinions on This Is Spinal Tap? A masterpiece? Overrated? Boring?
(For me it would be 'masterpiece'. David actually looks like 1984-James Hetfield!)

2. What are your opinions on Jack Black? Probably my favourite actor/comedian.
(I grew up on Shallow Hal, School Of Rock, Nacho Libre, Tenacious D, and more recently Bernie and Be Kind Rewind).
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Post by: Chino on March 10, 2016, 07:57:37 AM
1. What are your opinions on This Is Spinal Tap? A masterpiece? Overrated? Boring?
(For me it would be 'masterpiece'. David actually looks like 1984-James Hetfield!)

2. What are your opinions on Jack Black? Probably my favourite actor/comedian.
(I grew up on Shallow Hal, School Of Rock, Nacho Libre, Tenacious D, and more recently Bernie and Be Kind Rewind).

1) One of the best music-related movies of all time. No question. Pure genius.
2) I love Jack Black's movies for the most part, but I find his Tenacious D stuff to be pretty annoying. Bernie was phenomenal.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 10, 2016, 08:02:29 AM
1. What are your opinions on This Is Spinal Tap? A masterpiece? Overrated? Boring?
(For me it would be 'masterpiece'. David actually looks like 1984-James Hetfield!)

2. What are your opinions on Jack Black? Probably my favourite actor/comedian.
(I grew up on Shallow Hal, School Of Rock, Nacho Libre, Tenacious D, and more recently Bernie and Be Kind Rewind).

Not sure I would call Spinal Tap a masterpiece, but I like it ok. I think it makes a lot more sense if you are a musician, or big into music rather than just a casual music fan. A lot of folks I know just don't really get it, and think it's just stupid. It's probably like Office Space - if you've never worked in an office environment, you probably won't get it either.

I like Jack Black, but his range is pretty limited. School Of Rock is probably my favourite of his. High Fidelity is another good one. Some of his other movies where he has some sort of romantic role (Shallow Hal, The Holiday) don't work as well imo.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 10, 2016, 08:20:09 AM
1. What are your opinions on This Is Spinal Tap? A masterpiece? Overrated? Boring?
(For me it would be 'masterpiece'. David actually looks like 1984-James Hetfield!)
I think it is great, but it's not that good.  In other words, it is a genius piece of satire with some absolutely hilarious bits, but as a whole it isn't something that has a lot of replay value for me.

2. What are your opinions on Jack Black? Probably my favourite actor/comedian.
(I grew up on Shallow Hal, School Of Rock, Nacho Libre, Tenacious D, and more recently Bernie and Be Kind Rewind).
I think he is awful.  In general, I hate one-trick ponies, and he is one of the one-trickiest I know.
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Post by: orcus116 on March 10, 2016, 10:24:53 AM
Caddyshack is just ok and not all that funny.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 10, 2016, 10:54:31 AM
I think he is awful.  In general, I hate one-trick ponies, and he is one of the one-trickiest I know.

That's why I was so surprised when watching Bernie - such a different performance from him.
I haven't watched The D Train yet, so I don't know if his role there is as usual, or different. I'll probably watch it this weekend.
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Post by: Chino on March 10, 2016, 11:08:34 AM
2. What are your opinions on Jack Black? Probably my favourite actor/comedian.
(I grew up on Shallow Hal, School Of Rock, Nacho Libre, Tenacious D, and more recently Bernie and Be Kind Rewind).
I think he is awful.  In general, I hate one-trick ponies, and he is one of the one-trickiest I know.

I can understand why people don't like him, but I don't think it's fair to call him a one trick pony. With the exception of Stranger Than Fiction, Will Farrell is a one trick pony.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 10, 2016, 11:13:15 AM
It's not fair to call Jack Black a one-trick pony because Will Farrell is a one-trick pony?
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Post by: Chino on March 10, 2016, 11:15:00 AM
It's not fair to call Jack Black a one-trick pony because Will Farrell is a one-trick pony?

No no no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Will Farrell is a one trick pony. Pretty much every movie role he's ever done is the exact same character. At least Jack Black's roles vary quite a bit between movies (Bernie, King Kong, Saving Silverman). He can play music really well and can play it live. He can do a lot.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 10, 2016, 12:06:30 PM
It's not fair to call Jack Black a one-trick pony because Will Farrell is a one-trick pony?

No no no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Will Farrell is a one trick pony. Pretty much every movie role he's ever done is the exact same character. At least Jack Black's roles vary quite a bit between movies (Bernie, King Kong, Saving Silverman). He can play music really well and can play it live. He can do a lot.

Agreed. I'm not a big fan of his but he's definitely more versatile than Will Ferrell. 

Adding to the thread, it's rare that I find Will Ferrell funny. He was funny in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, The Producers, and the Celebrity Jeopardy skits. After that, just go away.  :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 10, 2016, 12:09:20 PM
It's not fair to call Jack Black a one-trick pony because Will Farrell is a one-trick pony?

No no no. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying Will Farrell is a one trick pony. Pretty much every movie role he's ever done is the exact same character. At least Jack Black's roles vary quite a bit between movies (Bernie, King Kong, Saving Silverman). He can play music really well and can play it live. He can do a lot.
When talking about acting, I'm not sure what difference it makes that Black can play music.

I'm not sure I see much difference between the two, except that I find Black's one trick more annoying than Ferrell's one trick.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 10, 2016, 12:55:36 PM
I can understand why people don't like him, but I don't think it's fair to call him a one trick pony. With the exception of Stranger Than Fiction, Will Farrell is a one trick pony.

I would also add Everything Must Go - a nice comedy-drama in the vein of Stranger Than Fiction.

Talking about Will Ferrell - this always puts a smile on my face:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWHyBOk2iQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWHyBOk2iQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uBOtQOO70Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uBOtQOO70Y)
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 10, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
I hated The Prestige

[SPOILER ALERT]
I was hoping for some clever twist grounded in reality. Nope. Fucking duplication, like Calvin and Hobbes. lulz
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 10, 2016, 01:41:07 PM
Accidental double post.
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Post by: Zantera on March 10, 2016, 03:12:26 PM
It's probably controversial to say that The Dark Knight wouldn't be in my top3 favorite Chris Nolan films. (Memento is my favorite and Inception/Prestige would be behind)
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 10, 2016, 03:28:14 PM
It's probably controversial to say that The Dark Knight wouldn't be in my top3 favorite Chris Nolan films. (Memento is my favorite and Inception/Prestige would be behind)

I liked Inception and The Prestige, but wasn't that keen on Memento. I must watch it a second time to see if I change my mind on it. How did you find Interstellar?

A movie I've always liked, but which gets a lot of hate is The 13th Warrior (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120657/?ref_=nv_sr_2) . It's a retelling of Beowulf. Not sure why everyone hates it, but I thought it was very well done. It does have one of those "suddenly I can speak your language fluently after hearing it for only 5 minutes" moments though..
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Post by: Zantera on March 10, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I liked Interstellar a lot actually, more than the majority I'd say. Either that one or TDK would be nr4 for me.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 04:08:22 PM
I hated The Prestige

[SPOILER ALERT]
I was hoping for some clever twist grounded in reality. Nope. Fucking duplication, like Calvin and Hobbes. lulz


ALSO SPOILERY

I don't mind that it went sci fi at the end. . . My problem was that the twist was what it looked like the entire time so it was like "...um...yeah and ? " ...
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Post by: Adami on March 10, 2016, 04:14:51 PM
I don't think the Prestige ending was supposed to be an "OMG I CAN"T BELIEVE THAT" twist, like in the 6th Sense.

I think it's more about the emotional and philosophical impact of the fact that the Hugh Jackman who starts the trick, does it knowing that there's a 50/50 shot he's going die as a result. And the other 50/50 is letting a clone die. It's pretty damn heavy if you get past the desire for shock value.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 04:16:06 PM
I don't think the Prestige ending was supposed to be an "OMG I CAN"T BELIEVE THAT" twist, like in the 6th Sense.

I think it's more about the emotional and philosophical impact of the fact that the Hugh Jackman who starts the trick, does it knowing that there's a 50/50 shot he's going die as a result. And the other 50/50 is letting a clone die. It's pretty damn heavy if you get past the desire for shock value.


I get it but the way Caine was saying " You don't want to accept the truth - you want to be fooled " just as the camera shows all the dead clones - as if the actual ending was meant to be a surprise...
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Post by: Adami on March 10, 2016, 04:17:50 PM
Possibly talking about the denial that he must go through, and also the fact that the audience (not necessarily you) are happy to be blissfully ignorant of all the pain and suffering that comes at the expense of their entertainment.

But sure, if you just wanted a twist ending, it's not really all that twisty.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 10, 2016, 04:19:46 PM
I love the movie though ! :)

It's one of my favourite Chris Nolan movies.

The first time I saw it - I was expecting a different ending . :)
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 11, 2016, 06:33:45 PM
I find it weird when actors speak in the same "put-on" accent in interviews that they have in the film it's promoting.
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Post by: Zook on March 11, 2016, 09:22:10 PM
I find it weird when actors speak in the same "put-on" accent in interviews that they have in the film it's promoting.

When does this happen? I actually wish Hugh Jackman or Andrew Lincoln would talk as their characters from X-Men and The Walking Dead in interviews. Same with Hugh Laurie as House. I've never seen an actor stay in character for an interview.
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Post by: Adami on March 11, 2016, 09:29:58 PM
I find it weird when actors speak in the same "put-on" accent in interviews that they have in the film it's promoting.

When does this happen?

I have no idea, outside of people like Sacha Baron Cohen interviewing as one of his characters.
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Post by: Accelerando on March 11, 2016, 09:35:04 PM
I believe Christian Bale has done this specially with Batman
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Post by: Adami on March 11, 2016, 09:39:45 PM
I believe Christian Bale has done this specially with Batman

I am positive you mean he spoke in an American accent, but I am laughing at the idea of Christian Bale answering questions in the crazy dog bark Batman voice.
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Post by: Accelerando on March 12, 2016, 02:03:11 AM
I believe Christian Bale has done this specially with Batman

I am positive you mean he spoke in an American accent, but I am laughing at the idea of Christian Bale answering questions in the crazy dog bark Batman voice.

"So Christian, what do you bring to Batman that stands out from the other actors who've put on the cowl?"

"IM NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS."

 :lol
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 12, 2016, 07:55:34 AM
There's that scene in Batman Begins where Lucius Fox shows Bruce the designs for the army vehicle tumbler that were never used.

Wouldn't someone see the Bat Mobile driving around and go " Hang on......those designs were given to ...Wayne Enterprises...! "
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 12, 2016, 09:14:51 AM
I find it weird when actors speak in the same "put-on" accent in interviews that they have in the film it's promoting.

When does this happen?
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 13, 2016, 08:10:49 AM
I love the movie Phone Booth (2003). I'm not generally into big Hollywood thrillers or Collin Farrell, but that movie is so addictive in my opinion.
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Post by: Zook on March 13, 2016, 09:38:17 AM
I love the movie Phone Booth (2003). I'm not generally into big Hollywood thrillers or Collin Farrell, but that movie is so addictive in my opinion.

Phone Booth is great. For being in one location most of the movie it must not have cost a whole lot to make, so why the hell is the blood purple?
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on March 13, 2016, 10:23:35 AM
I don't think Will Ferrell is funny. I think he often times resorts to yelling to try and make a situation more awkward and funny.

Also, Insomnia is a massively underrated movie and I think it's better than Inception and Interstellar.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 13, 2016, 10:52:15 AM
I love the movie Phone Booth (2003). I'm not generally into big Hollywood thrillers or Collin Farrell, but that movie is so addictive in my opinion.

Yes, that was a good one.

I don't think Will Ferrell is funny. I think he often times resorts to yelling to try and make a situation more awkward and funny.

Also, Insomnia is a massively underrated movie and I think it's better than Inception and Interstellar.

I find WF pretty hit and miss. I like some of his earlier stuff, like Old School, Zoolander, etc where he wasn't the main character. Having said that, Elf absolutely has to be watched every year at Christmas time in our house!! :)

Insomnia was very good too. Definitely one of Robin Williams' best performances. I'm not sure if I could really compare it to those other two though. It's just too different. Kind of an apples vs oranges thing for me.
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Post by: Tomislav95 on March 13, 2016, 11:03:06 AM
I don't think Will Ferrell is funny. I think he often times resorts to yelling to try and make a situation more awkward and funny.

Also, Insomnia is a massively underrated movie and I think it's better than Inception and Interstellar.
Agree on Will Ferrel. I cringe on most of his movies.
Also, Insomnia is great and surely underrated but I like both Inception and Interstellar better.
My controversial opinion: Lord of the Rings is not that great. It's ok but not marathon and countless times watching worthy (and I know many people do that).
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Post by: Bolsters on March 13, 2016, 05:13:52 PM
I don't think Will Ferrell is funny. I think he often times resorts to yelling to try and make a situation more awkward and funny.
I've never laughed at anything he has ever said or done. I can't stand him.
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Post by: Zantera on March 13, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
He has done some fun stuff, personally I thought Step Brothers was hilarious. But a lot of other roles have fallen flat for me.
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Post by: Fluffy Lothario on March 14, 2016, 06:44:19 AM
High Fidelity is another good one.
One of my favourite movies. A rare case of the film being a LOT better than the book, and an even rarer case of that being the case even though the book was great to begin with.

And since this is the controversial opinions thread, I'll also call it the best movie that revolves around music.

And Jack Black is perfect in this movie because he doesn't go out to play a lovably funny dick, he goes out to play an asshole manchild and he nails it.
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Post by: Chino on March 14, 2016, 06:52:07 AM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 14, 2016, 06:52:57 AM
Chino, did your parents lock you inside a cupboard and forget about you for your entire childhood? Like wtf.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 14, 2016, 07:48:01 AM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.

I think there's a lot of movies like that, that would just look silly when viewed for the first time today, through modern day movie glasses.

I had a 'discussion' with a guy in his late 30s that watched the Goonies for the first time recently and said it was total rubbish. What?? You can't just insult a classic like that unchallenged..  :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 14, 2016, 08:01:20 AM
Chino, did your parents lock you inside a cupboard and forget about you for your entire childhood? Like wtf.
The world wants to know.
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Post by: orcus116 on March 14, 2016, 08:22:36 AM
I kinda see where Chino is coming from since I do believe that the context in which someone sees a movie for the first time, especially one considered a classic, needs to be considered. Sometimes when I see those nostalgia posts on Facebook about movies like Hook I can't help but roll my eyes. To quote my old college roommate: "I'd rewatch movies I loved as a kid but I'd rather not ruin my memory of them. Let's be honest, 95% of them absolutely suck."
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 14, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
Sure there are a lot of old movies that we only have fondness for out of nostalgia. Then are are other old movies that we still love because they hold up as genuinely great movies for any era. Ghostbusters falls into that latter category imo.
There are a lot of these classic movies that I've only watched relatively recently (like the original Indiana Jones trilogy). Some of them I'll still enjoy, but there's a major factor of "you had to be there" to it. Some other movies are timeless classics that are just as easily enjoyed as a first time viewer.

I think I'm more used to viewing things in context than most people though, plus my fondness for certain eras, so I usually appreciate old movies for what they are.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 14, 2016, 08:38:15 AM
I hated High Fidelity. I thought it was way too pretentious.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 14, 2016, 10:54:21 AM
Star Wars and Star Trek movies do absolutely nothing for me. Sure, it's cool to watch the original Star Wars trilogy, but it's not like I'm geeking out over them.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 14, 2016, 11:37:37 AM
I hated High Fidelity. I thought it was way too pretentious.
Me too. The romantic aspect I just don't care about, but the constant references to albums, tracklistings, mixtapes, Top 5 lists, etc. makes it fun for me to watch. It's like - 'wait, so I wasn't a weirdo when I was 14!'.

(eventhough, yeah, we all are weirdos)

Plus, I can't understand why Jack Black choses "Walking On Sunshine" to headbang on the store - I always thought, knowing him, that he would have chosen some Sabbath or Zeppelin or AC/DC. At least he became much more famous on his own and got to put all his rock love in his movies.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 14, 2016, 11:39:10 AM
I hated High Fidelity. I thought it was way too pretentious.
Me too. The romantic aspect I just don't care about, but the constant references to albums, tracklistings, mixtapes, Top 5 lists, etc. makes it fun for me to watch. It's like - 'wait, so I wasn't a weirdo when I was 14!'.

(eventhough, yeah, we all are weirdos)

Is that your photo?  You look like the guy who played Desmond on the television show, Lost.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Sacul on March 14, 2016, 11:43:00 AM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 14, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
Is that your photo?  You look like the guy who played Desmond on the television show, Lost.

Ha! I just googled him (because I never watched Lost). I don't really see it, but maybe it's this picture only.

I actually look exacty like Jasper Cillissen (the Netherland's goalkeeper, who was also born in 1989). In fact, in 2014 (after the match between Netherlands and Argentina), one student asked me if I was his twin brother separated at birth or something.

I've also been compared to Chris Martin, and this guy:
(https://www.valkiriaseventos.com.ar/valkirias-shows/img/fotos/130_20110413000904.jpg)
Who is a famous (but overall stupid) TV host.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 14, 2016, 12:12:25 PM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

I'd probably say it's my favorite. It's really great, down-to-the-point 100 minutes of movie magic, unlike modern Tarantino films that are twice that length. With the exception of Pulp Fiction I think most of his newer films suffer mostly from being too long. They're all mostly great, but take Hateful Eight for example. That was 2 ½ hours in a cabin. No way that needed to be so long.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 14, 2016, 12:23:06 PM
Is that your photo?  You look like the guy who played Desmond on the television show, Lost.

Ha! I just googled him (because I never watched Lost). I don't really see it, but maybe it's this picture only.

I actually look exacty like Jasper Cillissen (the Netherland's goalkeeper, who was also born in 1989). In fact, in 2014 (after the match between Netherlands and Argentina), one student asked me if I was his twin brother separated at birth or something.

I've also been compared to Chris Martin, and this guy:
(https://www.valkiriaseventos.com.ar/valkirias-shows/img/fotos/130_20110413000904.jpg)
Who is a famous (but overall stupid) TV host.

Yeah, sorry about that.  :lol   I did a quick glance and since I've been watching every season the past week or so, those characters are fresh in my mind.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 14, 2016, 12:38:29 PM
Yeah, sorry about that.  :lol   I did a quick glance and since I've been watching every season the past week or so, those characters are fresh in my mind.

Not Penny's Boat!!

I loved LOST! Stuck with it right to the end when so many folks I know gave up on it.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 14, 2016, 12:40:58 PM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

I'd probably say it's my favorite. It's really great, down-to-the-point 100 minutes of movie magic, unlike modern Tarantino films that are twice that length.
I agree.  Reservoir Dogs is perfect.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 14, 2016, 12:43:21 PM
Yeah, sorry about that.  :lol   I did a quick glance and since I've been watching every season the past week or so, those characters are fresh in my mind.

Not Penny's Boat!!

I loved LOST! Stuck with it right to the end when so many folks I know gave up on it.

Don't say too much yet. :lol I'm only up to season 5. It's when they first get back to the island and they're trapped in 1977. I'm still enjoying it, even with the time travel story angle.

Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

I'd probably say it's my favorite. It's really great, down-to-the-point 100 minutes of movie magic, unlike modern Tarantino films that are twice that length.
I agree.  Reservoir Dogs is perfect.

:iagree:
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 14, 2016, 12:54:27 PM
Don't say too much yet. :lol I'm only up to season 5. It's when they first get back to the island and they're trapped in 1977. I'm still enjoying it, even with the time travel story angle.

Ah! Sorry Brother :) For some reason I thought you said re-watching.

Say no more, say no more..  :)
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 14, 2016, 12:55:45 PM
My controversial TV opinion would be that I loved Lost through all 6 seasons and the finale was actually one of my favorite episodes.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 14, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
Don't say too much yet. :lol I'm only up to season 5. It's when they first get back to the island and they're trapped in 1977. I'm still enjoying it, even with the time travel story angle.

Ah! Sorry Brother :) For some reason I thought you said re-watching.

Say no more, say no more..  :)

No worries, brother.

I should end very post with ,"brother".

Most people probably think Benjamin is a prick, but I like his character. He has his own way about things and he's a lot easier to trust if you know how to follow his train of thought.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Cool Chris on March 14, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
I wouldn't say Reservoir Dogs is perfect, but for what it tries to be, it is about as close as you can get.

I haven't seen the Hateful 8, but I assume the problem is that he tried to make it his Sergio Leone epic, without Leone's sense of style and storytelling. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is a story about 3 guys looking for the same stash of gold. There is no way it should be a ~3 hour long movie. But there are so many entertaining nuances and beautiful shots that it doesn't seem like it is as long as it is. There is no reason we need to see 3 minutes of Tuco running around the graveyard, or his and Blondie's detour in to the Civil War camp. But they add so much to their journey. And by the time you get to the final 3-way showdown, you are so wrapped up in that journey you have been on with these three guys, the climax is more than worth the wait.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Sacul on March 14, 2016, 01:20:58 PM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

I'd probably say it's my favorite. It's really great, down-to-the-point 100 minutes of movie magic, unlike modern Tarantino films that are twice that length.
I agree.  Reservoir Dogs is perfect.
I liked it, but besides a few plot twists, it didn't blow me away or anything, so I don't get the hype at all. Unnecesarily violent too.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 14, 2016, 01:36:04 PM
And since this is the controversial opinions thread, I'll also call it the best movie that revolves around music.
Mm, having seen Spinal Tap, All You Need Is Cash/Can't Buy Me Lunch, The Dewey Cox Story (with Jack as Paul McCartney), School Of Rock & Tenacious D (also with Jack), or Whiplash (the only serious one, focusing on Jazz), I'm not sure about that.

To me, High Fidelity is 3/4 romantic comedy + 1/4 music; the others focus much more on music, so they are more interesting to me.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 14, 2016, 01:38:11 PM
Walk Hard is amazing.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 14, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
Walk Hard is amazing.
Yes, 'Walk'... Jenna Fischer... 'Hard'...  :heart
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 14, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/cb/80/5fcb80a9be732e2bd97cc1a867b67b71.jpg)



... Maybe your songs will still suck when I'm 64  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 14, 2016, 06:02:09 PM
I dunno if this is controversial because I can't imagine anyone enjoying it...


..but the Angelina Jolie movie film " Wanted ".


What a crock of shit.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 14, 2016, 10:15:20 PM
I haven't seen it, but that doesn't sound controversial to me. It looked like it sucked.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on March 14, 2016, 10:21:56 PM
I dunno if this is controversial because I can't imagine anyone enjoying it...


..but the Angelina Jolie movie film " Wanted ".


What a crock of shit.

It's a movie about making bullets curve. .............I was going to make this a joke, but I think that description did the job.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zook on March 15, 2016, 03:37:58 AM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.

I think there's a lot of movies like that, that would just look silly when viewed for the first time today, through modern day movie glasses.

I had a 'discussion' with a guy in his late 30s that watched the Goonies for the first time recently and said it was total rubbish. What?? You can't just insult a classic like that unchallenged..  :lol

I've seen The Goonies a gazillion times, so maybe I'm just tired of it, but I never want to watch it again, and looking back, it really wasn't THAT great. A nice little adventure movie, with memorable moments, but certainly not OMG CLASSIC MASTERPIECE. Plus, I think The Monster Squad is better, and even though I've also seen it a gazillion times, and am overall tired of it, I could still watch it again. The creature effects still look great.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 15, 2016, 04:25:32 AM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.

I think there's a lot of movies like that, that would just look silly when viewed for the first time today, through modern day movie glasses.

I had a 'discussion' with a guy in his late 30s that watched the Goonies for the first time recently and said it was total rubbish. What?? You can't just insult a classic like that unchallenged..  :lol

I've seen The Goonies a gazillion times, so maybe I'm just tired of it, but I never want to watch it again, and looking back, it really wasn't THAT great. A nice little adventure movie, with memorable moments, but certainly not OMG CLASSIC MASTERPIECE. Plus, I think The Monster Squad is better, and even though I've also seen it a gazillion times, and am overall tired of it, I could still watch it again. The creature effects still look great.

Never done the "truffle shuffle"?  :biggrin:
There's just something about the whole secret pirate gold adventure that brings out the big kid in me. It's interesting what kids today think of movies that we absolutely loved as kids ourselves. My two boys like the Goonies, but it wouldn't be particularly special to them. They view all the Star Wars movies on a level playing field - they don't really have an opinion on the OT vs the PT. It's just all Star Wars to them.

I can see I still have some work to do there...  :lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 15, 2016, 06:06:33 AM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.

I think there's a lot of movies like that, that would just look silly when viewed for the first time today, through modern day movie glasses.

I had a 'discussion' with a guy in his late 30s that watched the Goonies for the first time recently and said it was total rubbish. What?? You can't just insult a classic like that unchallenged..  :lol

I've seen The Goonies a gazillion times, so maybe I'm just tired of it, but I never want to watch it again, and looking back, it really wasn't THAT great. A nice little adventure movie, with memorable moments, but certainly not OMG CLASSIC MASTERPIECE. Plus, I think The Monster Squad is better, and even though I've also seen it a gazillion times, and am overall tired of it, I could still watch it again. The creature effects still look great.

I've never seen The Goonies.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2016, 06:10:34 AM
It's not that great really.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 15, 2016, 06:17:35 AM
It's still good, but it's not a movie that will impress new viewers by any stretch. Chino definitely won't like it.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 15, 2016, 06:59:13 AM
It doesn't have visual effects like Avatar
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on March 15, 2016, 07:06:54 AM
It doesn't have visual effects like Avatar

There's one dodgy effects shot of a pirate ship out on the ocean, but that's about it.  :biggrin:

I really didn't like Avatar very much. I found the 'wow' factor of the impressive 3D wore off pretty quickly. The story wasn't great - it kept reminding me of Dances With Wolves for some reason..
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 15, 2016, 07:26:20 AM
We've been over it before but I agree. Avatar was a movie that really left my mind right away. It wasn't bad, but I had no interest in seeing it again and I haven't.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Onno on March 15, 2016, 07:33:01 AM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

Nah, Kill Bill is. Both parts. They're okay but they lack a lot of the amazing dialogue that other Tarantino movies sometimes seem to be built on.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2016, 07:48:31 AM
Um. Excuse me.

Death Proof ??

Not only QT's worst film but one of the worst films ever.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 15, 2016, 07:50:51 AM
I've never seen The Goonies.
It's too late now.  The appeal is for kids.  Don't bother.

I liked it when I was a kid, but it's hard for me to watch now.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 15, 2016, 07:51:08 AM
I dunno if this is controversial because I can't imagine anyone enjoying it...


..but the Angelina Jolie movie film " Wanted ".


What a crock of shit.

It's a movie about making bullets curve. .............I was going to make this a joke, but I think that description did the job.

Don't forget the loom of doom. Magic healing wax. Defying gravity. Killing 10 people in a row with one bullet.

It's like a 12 year old wrote it.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Onno on March 15, 2016, 08:43:25 AM
Um. Excuse me.

Death Proof ??

Not only QT's worst film but one of the worst films ever.
I haven't seen that one yet.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Sacul on March 15, 2016, 08:51:31 AM
Reservoir Dogs is one of Tarantino's weakest movies by far  :corn

Nah, Kill Bill is. Both parts. They're okay but they lack a lot of the amazing dialogue that other Tarantino movies sometimes seem to be built on.
I guess dialogue isn't really what attracts me the most about his movies, so I loved Kill Bill :P
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on March 15, 2016, 09:30:29 AM
I like Death Proof a lot actually but I think Pulp Fiction is quite overrated. It's good but I still prefer Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogs, Inglourious Basterds, Django, and The Hateful Eight.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on March 15, 2016, 09:49:06 AM
I've never seen The Goonies.
It's too late now.  The appeal is for kids.  Don't bother.

I liked it when I was a kid, but it's hard for me to watch now.

There are a few movies from my childhood that I still legitimately enjoy. I may not have liked them if I saw them for the first time as an adult, but watching them isn't a chore or anything like that now.

- Richie Rich
- Camp Nowhere
- Little Giants
- Heavyweights
- Blank Check
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 15, 2016, 10:46:53 AM
Well, it's better than any of those, so give it a shot, I guess.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: orcus116 on March 15, 2016, 11:12:48 AM
I saw it for the first time in college and I echo the people that say you need to have watches it as a kid. It was ok.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Sacul on March 15, 2016, 11:27:32 AM
Dunno if it counts, but I thought The Fountain's soundtrack wasn't really special at all.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zook on March 15, 2016, 12:07:28 PM
Watched Ghostbusters for the first time over the weekend. While somewhat entertaining, I have no idea why that movie is considers as big of a classic as it is.

I think there's a lot of movies like that, that would just look silly when viewed for the first time today, through modern day movie glasses.

I had a 'discussion' with a guy in his late 30s that watched the Goonies for the first time recently and said it was total rubbish. What?? You can't just insult a classic like that unchallenged..  :lol

I've seen The Goonies a gazillion times, so maybe I'm just tired of it, but I never want to watch it again, and looking back, it really wasn't THAT great. A nice little adventure movie, with memorable moments, but certainly not OMG CLASSIC MASTERPIECE. Plus, I think The Monster Squad is better, and even though I've also seen it a gazillion times, and am overall tired of it, I could still watch it again. The creature effects still look great.

I've never seen The Goonies.

Shocker.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 15, 2016, 12:24:16 PM
I've never seen The Goonies.
It's too late now.  The appeal is for kids.  Don't bother.

I liked it when I was a kid, but it's hard for me to watch now.

There are a few movies from my childhood that I still legitimately enjoy. I may not have liked them if I saw them for the first time as an adult, but watching them isn't a chore or anything like that now.

- Richie Rich
- Camp Nowhere
- Little Giants
- Heavyweights
- Blank Check

I can still watch The Goonies. It's an enjoyable movie. It's along the lines of Stand By me as far as the bonding of friends facing an ordeal. They're both adventure movies and the humor is pretty much the same because of the young characters. If you say you haven't seen Stand By Me, then watch that instead.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 15, 2016, 01:29:34 PM
I would never compare The Goonies to Stand By MeThe Goonies is much sillier.  Stand By Me is a serious film.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 15, 2016, 01:35:10 PM
I would never compare The Goonies to Stand By MeThe Goonies is much sillier.  Stand By Me is a serious film.

It's more serious in ways, absolutely. But that same kid humor is there. The whole time on the way to the body is filled with jokes and whatnot (along with the more serious moments). It's not identical but there are parallels between the two.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 15, 2016, 01:54:17 PM
While the children's undertone is similar one is on the comedic side and the other is one serious movie.  I like both but of course Stand By Me is a really good movie.

 BTW, Most have said that Goonies is a kids movie and it's not the same when watching it as a kid, it's not a full blown kids movie and I can still relate to it.  It's just a fun movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 17, 2016, 12:10:05 PM
Trailers that don't match the film.

Like - Character A will say a line and then there'll be a reaction shot from from Character B elsewhere in the film.

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 17, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
Trailers that don't match the film.

Like - Character A will say a line and then there'll be a reaction shot from from Character B elsewhere in the film.

That was glaring in the second Batman vs. Superman trailer.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 17, 2016, 12:34:51 PM
Also in the trailer for Prometheus - Shaw says " we're here because of an invitation " and the Ginger guy says " from who ? " and it shows Shaw and Charlie look at each other and it fades out.

That never happens in the film.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: chaossystem on March 18, 2016, 01:36:16 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

YES! YES! YES!
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: chaossystem on March 18, 2016, 01:39:17 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

I agree. I always thought The Dark Knight had too many acts and too many characters and I don't know what's going on most of the time.

The main problem I feel is that it was rushed in too many areas. They didn't take any time to tell a "real" story like they did with the first one.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: chaossystem on March 18, 2016, 01:50:27 PM
Dare Devil with Ben Affleck is my favorite superhero movie.
Well, that explains a lot.

I don't blame Ben Affleck for making that movie suck. The story/movie just wasn't that GOOD...
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on March 18, 2016, 01:54:18 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

I agree. I always thought The Dark Knight had too many acts and too many characters and I don't know what's going on most of the time.

The main problem I feel is that it was rushed in too many areas. They didn't take any time to tell a "real" story like they did with the first one.

I think you all are a little loopy.

I also don't think 3 years between movies is rushed. It's not like they didn't have pre production going on before and durring the 1st movie. 
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: TAC on March 18, 2016, 02:34:44 PM
The only Batman movie I saw was with Michael Keaton and it blew.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: chaossystem on March 18, 2016, 03:15:35 PM
Batman Begins is easily the best of the Christopher Nolan Batman films.

I agree. I always thought The Dark Knight had too many acts and too many characters and I don't know what's going on most of the time.

The main problem I feel is that it was rushed in too many areas. They didn't take any time to tell a "real" story like they did with the first one.

I think you all are a little loopy.

I also don't think 3 years between movies is rushed. It's not like they didn't have pre production going on before and durring the 1st movie.

I didn't mean that the TIMING  of the movie or it's release was rushed. I meant the "flow" of the movie itself. Like they were trying too hard to make it an "action flick" and just hit us with too much all at once, instead of maybe giving a better explanation for a lot of what happens when it happens. Kind of a case of "too much plot getting in the way of the story. In my opinion, this did not happen in Batman Begins.
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Post by: chaossystem on March 18, 2016, 03:18:10 PM
The only Batman movie I saw was with Michael Keaton and it blew.

The first one wasn't THAT bad. But I pretty much agree with you about the second one, and the ones with Val Kilmer and George Clooney.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2016, 03:32:33 PM
I love Batman. Jack Nicholson is amazing. I'm not too hot on Returns.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: vazquez on March 18, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
Controversial opinion?

Tarantino sucks.  :tdwn

Woody Allen too, by the way.  :tdwn
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on March 18, 2016, 03:55:28 PM
Controversial opinion?

Tarantino sucks.  :tdwn


Why?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on March 18, 2016, 04:00:10 PM
I like Tarantino but I think the massive praise he gets is perhaps a tad too much. He has a few really good films (and a bunch of good ones), but so does a lot of other directors who doesn't get the same love. While I have enjoyed his last few, ever since Kill Bill it feels like he's making the same movie over and over again, just with different settings.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on March 18, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
Controversial opinion?

Tarantino sucks.  :tdwn

Woody Allen too, by the way.  :tdwn

Never seen a Woody Allen film. Tarantino doesn't know how to edit. Most of his films could end much sooner. 


EDIT

Hehe. Speaking of Tarantino - I'm watching Team America and the scene with the Kill Bill music just came on. :tup
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: KevShmev on March 18, 2016, 09:14:54 PM
Tarantino is awesome.

Yet only has two Oscar nominations for Best Director (and no wins yet).  If anything, he is underrated and doesn't get nearly enough credit for how great he is.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2016, 09:28:31 PM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2016, 06:30:54 AM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
Yes, but you have, shall we say, interesting taste in film.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 19, 2016, 06:48:10 AM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
Yes, but you have, shall we say, interesting taste in film.

More interesting than two hours of people swearing and killing each other in a story that ultimately goes nowhere. :P
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 19, 2016, 06:57:08 AM
Yes, well.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 19, 2016, 08:22:46 AM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
Yes, but you have, shall we say, interesting taste in film.

More interesting than two hours of people swearing and killing each other in a story that ultimately goes nowhere. :P

I didn't know you had such sensitive ears.  ;)
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Post by: King Postwhore on March 19, 2016, 08:25:37 AM
Add time travel to swearing and Blob is in.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 19, 2016, 08:28:22 AM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
Yes, but you have, shall we say, interesting taste in film.

More interesting than two hours of people swearing and killing each other in a story that ultimately goes nowhere. :P

I didn't know you had such sensitive ears.  ;)

I don't at all, it just always sounds super contrived to me in those types of movies.
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Post by: Prog Snob on March 19, 2016, 09:31:58 AM
I wouldn't say Tarantino sucks because clearly he's great at what he does to appeal to people so much, but I've disliked everything I've seen from him, and he's definitely not my kind of filmmaker. :lol
Yes, but you have, shall we say, interesting taste in film.

More interesting than two hours of people swearing and killing each other in a story that ultimately goes nowhere. :P

I didn't know you had such sensitive ears.  ;)

I don't at all, it just always sounds super contrived to me in those types of movies.

I'd say the swearing is spot on - at least in my experience.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 19, 2016, 12:46:01 PM
Has anyone seen these types of films where the antagonists are pretty much getting away with their crime...

Then one police officer comes around to do some routine questions .. and instead of calmly answer their questions and carry on as normal...

they just kill the police officer so now they're DEFINITELY guilty...
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Post by: bosk1 on March 21, 2016, 01:52:58 PM
Not really a controversial movie opinion, but I don't think it deserves its own thread, so I'll put it here since it is close enough:  Samuel L. Jackson is not that great an actor.  I mean, he can be at times, and he has had some great performances.  But it is now getting to the point where I feel like I have seen him do far more bland performances than great or even good ones.  I think the problem is that he basically just plays himself, i.e. a loud/angry/opinionated yet somewhat funny guy with no filter, UNLESS he has a strong script AND a very strong personality in the director's chair who can stand up to him and say, "No, Sam.  Try it this way."  The problem is, he has attained such a status that I don't think there are many directors out there who are willing and able to do that.  So rather than being the character, he is content being Sam Jackson with the character's name attached.  That's my take, for what it's worth.  And, to me, it's a shame too because it feels like wasted potential.  He is clearly capable of delivering solid, emotional performances given the right circumstances. 
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2016, 01:58:07 PM
I thought he was *hysterical* in Django.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 21, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
I wouldn't say "hysterical," but now that you mention it, I thought that was one of his better recent performances.  But going back to my main point, I think this is consistent with that in that Django had a very strong personality in the director's chair.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2016, 02:12:40 PM
Oh I laughed my arse off every time he was speaking.
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Post by: Logain Ablar on March 21, 2016, 02:26:15 PM
I thought he was great in Django, mostly because his performance wasn't overdone. He played the sneaky, traitorous Stephen character very well. I really wanted him to meet a nasty end.

I don't think he was very good in the Star Wars prequels, but that may have been more to do with the direction and dialogue he was given, as bosk mentioned.

A Time To Kill is one of his best for me.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2016, 02:32:47 PM
Obviously he was great in Pulp Fiction - again directed by Tarantino.
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Post by: Zantera on March 21, 2016, 03:43:56 PM
I think the problem with Samuel L Jackson is that he tends to play the same character, a badass mothafucka who does cool things and swears a lot. I also think it's the Morgan Freeman syndrome, but to a lesser extent where the guy shows up everywhere and you get fatigued.

Speaking of Morgan Freeman, I feel like he has unfortunately become almost a joke or meme at this point. Not his acting, but whenever he shows up in a movie, I always burst out laughing and go "Of course Morgan Freeman is in this", because it feels like he does 2 films per month.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 21, 2016, 03:50:29 PM
I just watched the Nolan batmans, Morgan J Freeman is good in those, but he's the same guy as always, innit.

While we are at it:
Dark Knight Rises > The Dark Knight
Hardy's Bane > Ledger's Joker.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2016, 04:07:48 PM
I prefer Rises too but Joker & Bane are both awesome.

Dark Knight Rises will SHIT all over Batman Vs. Superman.


G U A R A N T E E D
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Post by: TAC on March 21, 2016, 04:12:26 PM
The only Batman movie I saw was with Michael Keaton and it blew.

The first one wasn't THAT bad. But I pretty much agree with you about the second one, and the ones with Val Kilmer and George Clooney.

But I never saw the second one! :lol

Unless the Keaton one was the second one. But I thought it was the first one.

I'm confused.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 21, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Second one has Penguin, Catwoman and Christopher Walken.


Is the first Tm Burton the only Batman movie where he hasn't had ( at least ) two antagonists ?

It was just Joker wasn't it ?

Returns = Penguin, catwoman, Max Shrek

Forever = Riddler, Two face

Batman & Robin = Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane

Begins  Scarecrow & Raz al Ghul

Dark Knight = Joker & Two face

Rises = Bane & Talia Al Ghul
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 21, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
First and second batmans were good.  Forever is where it fell apart although The Riddler was kinda cool when I was young.
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Post by: Zantera on March 21, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
I'd take Forever over Batman Returns because despite being campy and silly, it was still more enjoyable than whatever Batman Returns was.
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Post by: sneakyblueberry on March 21, 2016, 07:39:13 PM
^yeah you may be right.  I just acquired the lot so I may have to rewatch.  Forever had a good soundtrack but. Kiss From a Rose fuck yeh.
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Post by: MetalJunkie on March 22, 2016, 08:43:17 AM
I enjoyed Forever quite a bit. I was the perfect age for it when it came out, though, so I may be biased due to nostalgia.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 22, 2016, 08:55:23 AM
Jim Carrey is fine. It would have been much better with a more skilled director.
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Post by: abydos on April 04, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
The Force Awakens is a boring, predictable, rehashed horseshit. I guess it wasn't all Lucas' fault.
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Post by: Zantera on April 04, 2016, 02:54:49 PM
The Force Awakens is a boring, predictable, rehashed horseshit. I guess it wasn't all Lucas' fault.

Second best movie in the franchise after Empire
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2016, 03:02:42 PM
Jim Carrey is fine. It would have been much better with a more skilled director.

Joel Shulmaker was not skilked?  Take a look at his movies before. He had quite a few good movies. I think he was influenced by WB and that was why he was brought in.

He later said he messed up.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on April 04, 2016, 03:09:24 PM
The Force Awakens is a boring, predictable, rehashed horseshit. I guess it wasn't all Lucas' fault.

Second best movie in the franchise after Empire
+1
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Post by: Zantera on April 04, 2016, 03:12:14 PM
I think Schumacher was a capable director, he just had the wrong vision for Batman. "They're called comic books, not drama books"
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 04, 2016, 03:24:48 PM
I think Schumacher was a capable director, he just had the wrong vision for Batman. "They're called comic books, not drama books"

He went too campy in my book. No one wanted the 60's tv show as a movie.
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Post by: Kotowboy on April 04, 2016, 03:36:39 PM
I think Schumacher was a capable director, he just had the wrong vision for Batman. "They're called comic books, not drama books"

They're also called graphic novels.
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Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on April 04, 2016, 03:39:52 PM
Controversial Opinion: The Hateful Eight is a Top 3 Tarantino movie
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Post by: Zantera on April 05, 2016, 02:02:18 AM
Controversial Opinion: The Hateful Eight is a Top 3 Tarantino movie

I saw it a second time last night, it was still good. I probably like it more than Django. But his top 3 for me would probably be Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill (both of them).
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Post by: Chino on April 07, 2016, 05:55:26 AM
I thought Daredevil with Ben Affleck was awesome.
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Post by: Prog Snob on April 07, 2016, 05:57:38 AM
I think it's controversial to say any movie in which Ben Affleck had the only leading role is awesome.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 07, 2016, 06:49:39 AM
I thought Daredevil with Ben Affleck was awesome.
Dear God.
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Post by: Chino on April 07, 2016, 06:57:57 AM
I thought Daredevil with Ben Affleck was awesome.
Dear God.

 The list of superhero movies I've seen is very short (The Dark Knight, the 3 Spidermans with TG, Thor, The Hulk with Aerosmith's daughter, and The Avengers). I probably liked Daredevil the most. It gets a lot of hate and I don't get why. Is it a shitty movie in general, or is it shitty as far as superhero expectations go?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 07, 2016, 07:09:00 AM
Yes, and yes.
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Post by: Zantera on April 07, 2016, 07:12:53 AM
I don't remember that much from Daredevil, but from what I remember it was OK. That scene at the playground was awful but most of it was OK. It wasn't as bad as Catwoman or the stand-alone Elektra movie, but definitely not something to write home about either.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 07, 2016, 07:15:28 AM
Yeah, it wasn't really horrible. 

But it wasn't good, either.
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Post by: Tomislav95 on April 07, 2016, 09:08:49 AM
I thought Daredevil with Ben Affleck was awesome.
My friend said it is the only superhero movie she likes. And her favorite genres are drama and thriller (I think).
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Post by: Zook on April 07, 2016, 10:17:34 AM
Daredevil's biggest problem was being too cheesy/corny. I didn't think it was that bad though.

 
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 07, 2016, 10:39:32 AM
Well, every single one of the films that Marvel Studios has released (the Marvel Cinematic Universe), is way better than that Daredevil film.

As were all three of the Nolan Batman films.

And Man of Steel.

And all of the Spider-Man films.

And most of the X-Men films.

And Green Lantern.

So Daredevil is nothing special.  If you want awesome Daredevil, watch the Netflix show.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 07, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
Well, every single one of the films that Marvel Studios has released (the Marvel Cinematic Universe), is way better than that Daredevil film.

As were all three of the Nolan Batman films.

And Man of Steel.

And all of the Spider-Man films.

And most of the X-Men films.

And Green Lantern.

I was with you right up until this.  Wolverine Origins could've (and should've) been way better than Daredevil, but it just failed on so many levels.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 08, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Green Lantern was not good, don't get me wrong.

But if I had a choice of rewatching Green Lantern or rewatching Daredevil, I would pick Green Lantern.  Reynolds is wrong for the part, but it had a lot of stuff right from the comics, and the effects are decent.

But there is a lot wrong with Daredevil.
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Post by: Outcrier on April 08, 2016, 08:23:51 AM
I think of Daredevil as some couple steps from falling into the abyss, which is reserved only for cinematic achievements such as Catwoman, Dragonball Evolution and Son of the Mask  :laugh:
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 08, 2016, 08:28:52 AM
I think of Daredevil as some couple steps from falling into the abyss, which is reserved only for cinematic achievements such as Catwoman, Dragonball Evolution and Son of the Mask  :laugh:

And may I add Caddyshack II.
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Post by: KevShmev on April 09, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
I think it's controversial to say any movie in which Ben Affleck had the only leading role is awesome.

I think that is true almost all of the time, but Argo was pretty fantastic.  Of course, that was because everything about it was really good, so it didn't require a great performance from the leading actor (regardless of who played it).
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Post by: Prog Snob on April 09, 2016, 11:55:56 AM
I think it's controversial to say any movie in which Ben Affleck had the only leading role is awesome.

I think that is true almost all of the time, but Argo was pretty fantastic.  Of course, that was because everything about it was really good, so it didn't require a great performance from the leading actor (regardless of who played it).

I haven't seen it but maybe it's worth checking out.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 10, 2016, 05:16:17 AM
Argo was fantastic, but although Affleck was technically the "star", it was really an ensemble piece.  The success of the film doesn't rise and fall on his acting performance (although he did a fine job).
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Post by: King Postwhore on April 10, 2016, 05:52:08 AM
As a director he is really excelling.
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Post by: jingle.boy on April 10, 2016, 05:58:53 AM
Green Lantern was not good, don't get me wrong.

But if I had a choice of rewatching Green Lantern or rewatching Daredevil, I would pick Green Lantern.  Reynolds is wrong for the part, but it had a lot of stuff right from the comics, and the effects are decent.

You lost me again.  Are we talking about the same movie?  GL's effects are worse than Hulk.
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Post by: Zantera on April 10, 2016, 06:15:23 AM
All I remember about the Green Lantern movie is the brown fart cloud that is the main villain of the film.
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Post by: Dream Team on April 10, 2016, 02:53:08 PM
First and second batmans were good.  Forever is where it fell apart although The Riddler was kinda cool when I was young.

Saw the first one on our honeymoon. There was unbelievable hype and build-up to that movie, partially due to the Prince soundtrack.
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Post by: Kotowboy on April 10, 2016, 02:54:57 PM
FUN FACT :

The writer of Argo wrote Batman V Superman.


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Post by: JustJen on April 29, 2016, 05:25:39 AM
:omg:

Annoy your fellow DTF poster !

List your opinions about movies that differ from "the norm".


I did not enjoy seeing The Empire Strikes Back in theaters when I was a little girl, and as a result I've hated everything Star Wars related ever since. I've never seen any of the others.
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Post by: Zantera on April 29, 2016, 05:40:26 AM
FUN FACT :

The writer of Argo wrote Batman V Superman.

Actually he just re-wrote Goyer's script. So how much involvement he had is questionable.
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Post by: Outcrier on April 29, 2016, 05:45:14 AM
Argo wasn't that good either.
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Post by: faizoff on April 29, 2016, 07:42:40 AM
Another fun fact I didn't know until recently is that when they show the credits written by 'person1 AND person2', It means person2 came later and changed person1's original script or made adjustments, etc.. they didn't work on it together. Whereas when they show written by 'person1 & person2' both of them collaborated together when writing the script. I thought that was very intriguing.
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Post by: Kotowboy on April 29, 2016, 10:06:47 AM
Like

" Written by John Spaihts and Damon Lindelof "
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Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 05:48:01 AM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
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Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 05:53:35 AM
I don't know how to process that.
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Post by: faizoff on May 10, 2016, 06:40:54 AM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
I think this was my initial feeling when I first saw it, wait till you get to later episodes. I like season 2 a little more and then 3 had some jaw dropping moments and then I became an obsessed fan during season 4. The earlier seasons are a lot more dialogue driven than others and when you rewatch them those long drawn out spoken scenes make a lot more sense. They give context to a lot of the later stuff and some even is directly related to events coming later. I wasn't a huge fan of the show until much later.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 10, 2016, 06:43:18 AM
If Game Of Thrones is just the typical "Adult Historical / Fantasy Fictional Drama" i.e nothing but swearing and fucking then you can keep it.

That shit doesn't interest me at all.

I saw a bit of a BBC fictional Roman Era drama and it was literally just fucking or swearing.
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Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 06:53:08 AM
If Game Of Thrones is just the typical "Adult Historical / Fantasy Fictional Drama" i.e nothing but swearing and fucking then you can keep it.

That shit doesn't interest me at all.


I noticed you had to swear to attempt to get your point across.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 10, 2016, 07:26:45 AM
Exactly. That's what it is. There's no emotion involved in scenes like that.
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Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Exactly. That's what it is. There's no emotion involved in scenes like that.

You're speaking subjectively. To say there are no emotions in scenes that involve swearing or fucking is completely arbitrary.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 10, 2016, 07:33:17 AM
It's just hardcore and adult for the sake of it. Yes it's my opinion and preferences but there's too many adult fiction shows like that where everyone acts tough and all sex is super aggressive.

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Post by: Logain Ablar on May 10, 2016, 07:33:55 AM
I've read all the GoT books, and TBH it annoys me a little that the, er, scenes you refer to seem to be "amped up" for the TV show. In the books those types of scenes were not as frequent, or as graphic.
I'm not sure there's a need to take it as far as they have.

I can't knock GoT too much though, as it's giving our tourist board something to do these days..  :lol
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Post by: faizoff on May 10, 2016, 07:47:27 AM
It's just hardcore and adult for the sake of it. Yes it's my opinion and preferences but there's too many adult fiction shows like that where everyone acts tough and all sex is super aggressive.


Sure, ok if you say so.
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Post by: Kotowboy on May 10, 2016, 08:01:45 AM
::) which part ? The fact that it doesn't interest me ? The fact that it's an adult fiction show involving dragons or several shows I've seen with my eyes are exactly as I described ?

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Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 10, 2016, 08:04:36 AM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
Goddammit Chino
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Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 08:08:07 AM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
Goddammit Chino

Nothing exciting has happened yet. Outside of Bran getting pushed out the window in episode 1, nothing really interesting has captured my attention. The only emotion I've really felt so far was when Stark had to kill his kid's dire wolf.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 10, 2016, 08:22:37 AM
You're already halfway through the first season.

Watch the next 5 episodes.  If you still don't care for it, then give it up.
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Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 08:24:34 AM
That's my plan. Don't get me wrong, the writing is good and the scenery is cool, I'm just not getting hooked. I don't really find myself caring about anyone other than Stark, and that's moot because I know his head is getting chopped off any minute now.
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Post by: ZirconBlue on May 10, 2016, 08:28:08 AM
I've read all the GoT books, and TBH it annoys me a little that the, er, scenes you refer to seem to be "amped up" for the TV show. In the books those types of scenes were not as frequent, or as graphic.
I'm not sure there's a need to take it as far as they have.

HBO's CEO of Tits needs to justify his job. 
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Post by: orcus116 on May 10, 2016, 08:30:47 AM
There are certain times where I really want to recommend a show or album or movie to one of my friends but end up not because he usually has a similar reaction to Chino's GOT's one and it's almost always because of hype. Not saying you are, Chino, but my friend tends to go in almost wanting to hate it because of the hype and usually forces his preconceived opinions to become true.

This is more of a rollover from a debate we had yesterday where he basically declared how overrated GOT is despite him not watching more than a season and expecting some kind of a pat on the back for his "bold" opinion.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 10, 2016, 08:34:04 AM
That's my plan. Don't get me wrong, the writing is good and the scenery is cool, I'm just not getting hooked. I don't really find myself caring about anyone other than Stark, and that's moot because I know his head is getting chopped off any minute now.
If you already know that going in, then it isn't going to work.  You may as well give up now.
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Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 08:36:21 AM
There are certain times where I really want to recommend a show or album or movie to one of my friends but end up not because he usually has a similar reaction to Chino's GOT's one and it's almost always because of hype. Not saying you are, Chino, but my friend tends to go in almost wanting to hate it because of the hype and usually forces his preconceived opinions to become true.

This is more of a rollover from a debate we had yesterday where he basically declared how overrated GOT is despite him not watching more than a season and expecting some kind of a pat on the back for his "bold" opinion.

I like to think that isn't why I'm not liking it. I hopped on the Breaking Bad, Lost, and Soprano trains well after the shows started. I'm just not a big fantasy genre guy. I would like nothing more than to end up really enjoying this show. I'll give it a legitimate chance, but if I don't like it, I don't like it. It's like that show Fringe. I love Walter the character, but that's about it. I finished two seasons and just didn't care at all about it.
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Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 08:38:28 AM
That's my plan. Don't get me wrong, the writing is good and the scenery is cool, I'm just not getting hooked. I don't really find myself caring about anyone other than Stark, and that's moot because I know his head is getting chopped off any minute now.
If you already know that going in, then it isn't going to work.  You may as well give up now.

That's pretty much all I know at this point as to what's coming. I just happened to see that scene play out when I walked in a living room one night. I've heard the audio of the red wedding and I know the dwarf is still alive in season 6. Other than those things, I'm completely in the dark.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 10, 2016, 08:57:45 AM
Those are big things.  May the Force be with you.
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Post by: faizoff on May 10, 2016, 09:01:34 AM
::) which part ? The fact that it doesn't interest me ? The fact that it's an adult fiction show involving dragons or several shows I've seen with my eyes are exactly as I described ?

If that's all you boiled it down to for all the shows of adult fiction you've seen, then there isn't much else for me to say. Because that's like just your opinion, man.

Quote from: Kotowboy
It's just hardcore and adult for the sake of it. Yes it's my opinion and preferences but there's too many adult fiction shows like that where everyone acts tough and all sex is super aggressive.
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Post by: Implode on May 10, 2016, 11:56:21 AM
Those are big things.  May the Force be with you.

Chino didn't like Star Wars either, right? It seems you just don't like over hyped things, which is fair imo.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 10, 2016, 12:05:45 PM
Those are big things.  May the Force be with you.

Chino didn't like Star Wars either, right? It seems you just don't like over hyped things, which is fair imo.

I didn't. I gave it a legitimate chance though. I watched Episodes 4,5, and the majority of 6. I mean, I'm not calling it shit or anything, but given the fact that I didn't watch it until the age of 26 in the year 2015, I'm not surprised that it didn't blow me away. I think if most Star Wars fans saw it as late as I did in this era of CGI and special effects, they'd feel a lot like I did.
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Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
Those are big things.  May the Force be with you.

Chino didn't like Star Wars either, right? It seems you just don't like over hyped things, which is fair imo.

I didn't. I gave it a legitimate chance though. I watched Episodes 4,5, and the majority of 6. I mean, I'm not calling it shit or anything, but given the fact that I didn't watch it until the age of 26 in the year 2015, I'm not surprised that it didn't blow me away. I think if most Star Wars fans saw it as late as I did in this era of CGI and special effects, they'd feel a lot like I did.

Stick with GoT until at least the end of season 1. There are so many plot lines, especially as you get into later seasons, that if one or two don't intrigue you, another will. You haven't even seen a fraction of the different characters that wind up on the show, and my three favorites (Jon, Tyrion, and Daenerys) become more interesting as the story continues. You haven't even seen Tyrion's best moments yet and you'll see why, in the later seasons, he's many people's favorite character.


It's just hardcore and adult for the sake of it. Yes it's my opinion and preferences but there's too many adult fiction shows like that where everyone acts tough and all sex is super aggressive.



What's wrong with super-aggressive sex?   ;)
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 10, 2016, 02:00:42 PM
Nothing, as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on May 10, 2016, 02:17:34 PM
The hard sex it a very small percentage to the storyline. 

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 04:29:40 PM
I know. I'm just trying to get Kotow's point. He doesn't like the show because to him it's the typical tough guy, sex aggressive show, but the book predates any show that's on television that would fit that description. I'm just trying to weed my way through his logic.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: King Postwhore on May 10, 2016, 04:33:27 PM
Good luck with that.  It's not like the woman's movement was in medieval times.  :lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 05:21:42 PM
I am late to the party on Thrones, Never paid much mind to it. Started it last week and got up to season 2 ep5. Kept saying to myself it will get better.

Then went outside and poured salt on a slug in my yard. watched that, Then painted my hallway and watched the paint dry. The last 2 beat the 15 episodes of Thrones
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 07:25:33 PM
I am late to the party on Thrones, Never paid much mind to it. Started it last week and got up to season 2 ep5. Kept saying to myself it will get better.

Then went outside and poured salt on a slug in my yard. watched that, Then painted my hallway and watched the paint dry. The last 2 beat the 15 episodes of Thrones

So you mean you have hope
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 07:30:20 PM
lol. I would bang the dragon chick :metal
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 07:48:20 PM
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Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 08:06:06 PM
yeah,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I would let her do me.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 08:07:48 PM
she is hot.

then again..........at this point I would let the groundhog in my yard do me lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 10, 2016, 08:08:23 PM
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Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 08:13:26 PM
she could eat me any day ;)
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Cable on May 10, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
OP Kotowboy, good idea! Reminds of the DT one, and a solid way to post in this day and twitterz age of quick thoughts;

-The Crow is an overrated movie, and would not be really noteworthy without Brandon Lee's unfortunate death.

-Terminator 2 is the best sequel ever that I can think of, off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 10, 2016, 08:54:05 PM

-Terminator 2 is the best sequel ever that I can think of, off the top of my head.

this so much a bit.

but Godfather 2...............just GREAT
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 03:52:49 AM

-Terminator 2 is the best sequel ever that I can think of, off the top of my head.

this so much a bit.

but Godfather 2...............just GREAT

Short Circuit 2 is clearly the best sequel of all time.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 04:32:05 AM

Short Circuit 2 is clearly the best sequel of all time.

I don't even know if you're serious.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on May 11, 2016, 04:38:01 AM

Short Circuit 2 is clearly the best sequel of all time.

I don't even know if you're serious.

Avatar 2 is obviously the best sequel ever... once it comes out
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 04:39:19 AM
:chino: :chino:
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 05:40:06 AM

Short Circuit 2 is clearly the best sequel of all time.

I don't even know if you're serious.

Avatar 2 is obviously the best sequel ever... once it comes out

Well, it can't be worse than the first one.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 05:43:14 AM
Because everything about the first one was so incompetent.

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 05:46:44 AM
No. The story just didn't grab me. Everything about the production was no doubt bombastic, but I was far from impressed with the storyline, and to me, story is everything. I've long removed myself from caring how much a movie spends on special effects. That sort of superficiality doesn't impress me anymore.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 05:54:04 AM
It's just a familiar story. It's been done before but so have many other stories.

There's only a few stories that films tell.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on May 11, 2016, 05:59:44 AM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

(TS2 has one of my favourite opening sequences of any movie)
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:00:17 AM
It's just a familiar story. It's been done before but so have many other stories.

There's only a few stories that films tell.

Disagree.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 06:06:21 AM
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Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 06:09:37 AM
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Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Zantera on May 11, 2016, 06:53:00 AM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

(TS2 has one of my favourite opening sequences of any movie)

The opening part is the sequence where Buzz is on a mission and it eventually turns out to be a video game right? If so, yeah I loved that.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 07:34:08 AM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

(TS2 has one of my favourite opening sequences of any movie)

Not at all. Toy Story 2 is better than the first one. There are a few movies that have better sequels. Short Circuit 2, Clerks 2, and Austin Powers - The Spy who Shagged Me come to mind.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 07:38:56 AM
The Wrath of Khan. Terminator 2. Hot Fuzz.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 07:44:42 AM
Hot Fuzz is damn near perfect. Question about that movie... Was Danny's mother's suicide staged for the greater good?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 07:48:00 AM
Not that I care about following the OP, but isn't there a thread all about better sequels?  :lol
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 07:49:19 AM
Wait, is Hot Fuzz a sequel?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 11, 2016, 07:52:04 AM
I never saw it, but I don't recall there being a previous movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 11, 2016, 07:53:05 AM
Watched The Worlds End again this morning. Awesome movie.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 07:54:22 AM
All 3 are great because of Edgar Wright. Not Simon Pegg.

Just look at any comedy Pegg has done without Edgar Wright. Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 11, 2016, 07:56:08 AM
Agree, and Simon should have skipped the Mission Impossible movie
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 08:18:12 AM
I just recently watched a new Pegg movie which was not only a terrible Pegg movie but a terrible movie full stop.

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 11, 2016, 08:30:07 AM
Wait, is Hot Fuzz a sequel?
No.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 08:35:26 AM
Wait, is Hot Fuzz a sequel?
No.

If the film makers say it is then it is.

#HopeThisHelps.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 11, 2016, 08:39:20 AM
Sequel to what?

It is certainly the second in the group of "Cornetto" films, but it isn't a sequel.  It isn't a continuation of any prior story, no characters continued over from a prior film, etch. 

It's not a sequel.

If the film makers say it is, then they are either joking or they are full of shit.  It's no more a sequel than it is a horse.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 11, 2016, 08:41:20 AM
It's a thematic sequel.

All 3 films have the same themes and have a through line.

It's not a direct sequel.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
It's a thematic sequel.

All 3 films have the same themes and have a through line.

It's not a direct sequel.

So is Best in Show a sequel to This is Spinal Tap?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 11, 2016, 08:50:20 AM
Kind of the way Kevin Smith did the Jay and Bob movies. Semi related but not entirely
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 11, 2016, 09:57:45 AM
Kind of the way Kevin Smith did the Jay and Bob movies. Semi related but not entirely
Those at least had the same characters (Jay and Silent Bob).

Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Adami on May 11, 2016, 10:12:38 AM
Kind of the way Kevin Smith did the Jay and Bob movies. Semi related but not entirely
Those at least had the same characters (Jay and Silent Bob).

And references to a bunch of other characters. They were all (obviously not things like Jersey Girl) set in the same universe.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: The Trooper on May 11, 2016, 10:29:16 AM
True.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: orcus116 on May 11, 2016, 10:53:11 AM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

(TS2 has one of my favourite opening sequences of any movie)

Not at all since many consider it a better movie. I seem to be the one in the minority that considers it a completely unnecessary movie and not as good as TS1. Even with TS3 everyone lost their shit but it was a pretty boring movie and suffered from typical Pixar manufacturered emotion.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Outcrier on May 11, 2016, 01:24:49 PM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

It is because Toy Story 2 is broadly considered the weakest of the trilogy. Personally, i think isn't better than the original but it's still great nonetheless.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 11, 2016, 01:30:00 PM
Talking about sequels, is it controversial to say:

Toy Story 2 > Toy Story

It is because Toy Story 2 is broadly considered the weakest of the trilogy. Personally, i think isn't better than the original but it's still great nonetheless.

I loved the second one. Seeing Buzz meet the other Buzzes was awesome, and I thought it was really cool to see Woody's background. Seeing the contrast in his value between the fat guy and Andy was great. And let's be real, Woody needed a horse. If anything, I think the third is the weakest.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 11, 2016, 01:57:15 PM
I dunno, all three of those films are really good.  I don't think it would really be controversial to say any of the three is your favorite.
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Post by: Outcrier on May 11, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
If anything, I think the third is the weakest.

I think so too, but i'm talking general consensus here. For me:

1 > 2 > 3
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Logain Ablar on May 11, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
Yeah, all 3 are very strong. My ranking would be:

2 > 1 > 3

but it's a close run thing.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 06:50:17 AM
I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 18, 2016, 07:17:08 AM
I dunno, all three of those films are really good.  I don't think it would really be controversial to say any of the three is your favorite.

I also don't think it's controversial to say that a 4th one is totally not needed.
inb4 why i'm wrong and a 4th one is totally justified actually
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Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 07:24:22 AM
I dunno, all three of those films are really good.  I don't think it would really be controversial to say any of the three is your favorite.

I also don't think it's controversial to say that a 4th one is totally not needed.
inb4 why i'm wrong and a 4th one is totally justified actually

You could argue that 2 and 3 weren't needed. I trust Pixar and have no problem with them keep their franchises going. Also, from a business standpoint, a fourth movie is absolutely needed to coincide with/build up hype for the opening of Toy Story Land in Disney.

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Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 18, 2016, 07:31:06 AM
And let's not be under any illusion why sequels are made.
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Post by: King Postwhore on May 18, 2016, 08:03:36 AM
Or any movie.  They are a business.  You don't make movies to loss money.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 08:11:32 AM
And let's not be under any illusion why sequels are made.

And let's not be under any illusion why movies are made.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 18, 2016, 08:48:45 AM
No. But sequels more blatantly so.

Even if a movie is created from an original idea. A sequel is made purely for the money and not " the continuation of the story " which is the go - to bullshit line.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: faizoff on May 18, 2016, 10:11:18 AM
I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.
I feel it's going to be damned near impossible to avoid major spoilers for this show and you'll have to really stay vigilant online esp in forums that discuss shows. I recently watched the first 3 seasons and had forgotten how dialogue heavy the show is, major stuff happens for sure but the first 3 seasons there is so much conversation going on it's probably 80-90% of each episode. However I feel none of the dialogue is wasted space, I think you'll appreciate every single line when you re-watch the same episodes after completing about 4 seasons. Most of the stuff isn't going to mean much at the time but it provides great context for episodes down the line.
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Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on May 18, 2016, 10:23:09 AM
I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.
I feel it's going to be damned near impossible to avoid major spoilers for this show and you'll have to really stay vigilant online esp in forums that discuss shows. I recently watched the first 3 seasons and had forgotten how dialogue heavy the show is, major stuff happens for sure but the first 3 seasons there is so much conversation going on it's probably 80-90% of each episode. However I feel none of the dialogue is wasted space, I think you'll appreciate every single line when you re-watch the same episodes after completing about 4 seasons. Most of the stuff isn't going to mean much at the time but it provides great context for episodes down the line.

Could not agree more. I feel that same way.
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Post by: orcus116 on May 18, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
No. But sequels more blatantly so.

Even if a movie is created from an original idea. A sequel is made purely for the money and not " the continuation of the story " which is the go - to bullshit line.

Especially when you're dealing with a movie like Toy Story that had nothing left to tell after the first one so they had to make up entirely new storylines for the next two. Both of the sequels just had that direct to video "here's a slapped together thing involving characters you're already familiar with" vibe.
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Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 10:40:44 AM
No. But sequels more blatantly so.

Even if a movie is created from an original idea. A sequel is made purely for the money and not " the continuation of the story " which is the go - to bullshit line.

Especially when you're dealing with a movie like Toy Story that had nothing left to tell after the first one so they had to make up entirely new storylines for the next two. Both of the sequels just had that direct to video "here's a slapped together thing involving characters you're already familiar with" vibe.

Both the love and success of the sequels say otherwise.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: faizoff on May 18, 2016, 10:42:49 AM
Speaking of controversial, judging by the responses in this thread it might be, but.. Hot Fuzz is my least favorite Frost and Pegg movie. Ironically I've watched it more than all the other ones to try and like but it never does anything for me. If I had to rank the movies they've had together I'd list them as
1, Shaun of the Dead
2, Paul
3, The World's End
4, Hot Fuzz
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 10:51:31 AM
Speaking of controversial, judging by the responses in this thread it might be, but.. Hot Fuzz is my least favorite Frost and Pegg movie. Ironically I've watched it more than all the other ones to try and like but it never does anything for me. If I had to rank the movies they've had together I'd list them as
1, Shaun of the Dead
2, Paul
3, The World's End
4, Hot Fuzz

I feel like Hot Fuzz is damn near perfect.

1) Hot Fuzz
2) Shaun of the Dead
3) The World's End
4) Paul
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 18, 2016, 11:48:48 AM
I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.

What was it that changed your mind?
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 18, 2016, 11:51:22 AM
Speaking of controversial, judging by the responses in this thread it might be, but.. Hot Fuzz is my least favorite Frost and Pegg movie. Ironically I've watched it more than all the other ones to try and like but it never does anything for me. If I had to rank the movies they've had together I'd list them as
1, Shaun of the Dead
2, Paul
3, The World's End
4, Hot Fuzz

I feel like Hot Fuzz is damn near perfect.

1) Hot Fuzz
2) Shaun of the Dead
3) The World's End
4) Paul



Yeah Paul is utter dog shit. Sorely missing Edgar Wright.

Most Pegg lead vehicles  without Edgar are shit movies.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: bosk1 on May 18, 2016, 12:01:27 PM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
Goddammit Chino

Nothing exciting has happened yet. Outside of Bran getting pushed out the window in episode 1, nothing really interesting has captured my attention. The only emotion I've really felt so far was when Stark had to kill his kid's dire wolf.

Wait...out of all the people on this forum, YOU can't relate to this?  I have no words...
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 18, 2016, 12:13:57 PM
Not really a movie opinion... but I started Game of Thrones. I'm 5 episodes in and I am bored out of my mind.
Goddammit Chino

Nothing exciting has happened yet. Outside of Bran getting pushed out the window in episode 1, nothing really interesting has captured my attention. The only emotion I've really felt so far was when Stark had to kill his kid's dire wolf.

Wait...out of all the people on this forum, YOU can't relate to this?  I have no words...

You know, my girlfriend said the exact same thing  :lol She said something like "Really? No reaction of any kind? Not even from a personal standpoint?". To be honest, I rarely think of that event. It didn't even cross my mind when watching that scene play out. Only reason it did was because she brought it up.

I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.

What was it that changed your mind?

Shortly after that wine merchant tried to poison Khaleesi, Drogo went into a rage speech about crossing the sea on wooden horses and taking back the throne her father sat on as a gift to his son. It was really intense and got me pretty pumped up.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 18, 2016, 12:21:40 PM
Indeed, it was an inspiring and intense speech. The Dothraki are truculent individuals.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 18, 2016, 12:50:48 PM
truculent

• adjective

eager or quick to argue or fight; aggressively defiant.
"the truculent attitude of farmers to cheaper imports"
synonyms:   defiant, aggressive, antagonistic, belligerent, pugnacious, bellicose, combative, confrontational, ready for a fight, hostile, obstreperous, argumentative, quarrelsome, contentious, uncooperative;
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 20, 2016, 07:33:05 AM
I just wanted everyone to know that I got a little further in Game of Throne and I'm not bored anymore.
Sweet.

I dunno, all three of those films are really good.  I don't think it would really be controversial to say any of the three is your favorite.

I also don't think it's controversial to say that a 4th one is totally not needed.
inb4 why i'm wrong and a 4th one is totally justified actually

You could argue that 2 and 3 weren't needed. I trust Pixar and have no problem with them keep their franchises going.
This exactly.  Good Christ, none of the Star Trek sequels are needed, either.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 20, 2016, 07:58:35 AM
Finished GOT S01 last night.

Dope.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Kotowboy on May 20, 2016, 08:46:19 AM

This exactly.  Good Christ, none of the Star Trek sequels are needed, either.

We get it. Some people don't like them.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: hefdaddy42 on May 20, 2016, 08:56:44 AM

This exactly.  Good Christ, none of the Star Trek sequels are needed, either.

We get it. Some people don't like them.
No, you apparently don't get it, because that's not what I'm talking about. 
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Chino on May 20, 2016, 09:05:08 AM

This exactly.  Good Christ, none of the Star Trek sequels are needed, either.

We get it. Some people don't like them.

And enough people do to generate Toy Story 3 $415,000,000 in the US and more than $1B worldwide. I can't wait for the 4th movie. The fact that it's not 'needed' isn't necessarily a bad thing. The fact that they aren't beholden to a particular story line means they can be as creative and as new and fresh as they want.
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: faizoff on May 20, 2016, 10:45:13 AM

This exactly.  Good Christ, none of the Star Trek sequels are needed, either.

We get it. Some people don't like them.
In addition to them not being liked by some people he's saying they weren't needed, either. ;-)
Title: Re: Your Controversial Movie Opinions !
Post by: Prog Snob on May 20, 2016, 12:49:45 PM
Finished GOT S01 last night.

Dope.

Dragons, FTW! Right? Dragons and boobies, FTW!

I know this is nitpicking but I wish they had made her hair silver, like in the books. I think it would have looked killer.