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General => Movies and TV => Topic started by: hefdaddy42 on February 17, 2016, 10:24:18 AM
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Anyone else catch the premiere episode?
I know that a lot of critics didn't love it, but I found it extremely engaging and interesting. Also, Bobby Cannavale can do no wrong in my book. Also cool to see Ray Romano in a dramatic role.
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I saw a preview for this last night. I can't wait to check it out.
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DVR'd it. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
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I saw the first episode last night. I think it has potential, but I felt like that episode was all over the damn place (which I suppose is normal for a pilot). Some of the scene transitions were awkward, and I didn't understand some of the musical interludes; some seemed pretty random, taking place in no particular location and no tie to the current situation, and others, like the female singer with the tambourine in the conference room were a bit dream like, almost like a hallucination or something.
For a show that is apparently music focused, I liked the plot and dialog more than these musical scenes. They told me more about the story than the music, which I think could have been used better as a background to the action. I guess it's a matter of time for the series to find its groove (heh) and smooth out these apparent (to me) inconsistencies.
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I'm definitely going to be checking this out when I get a chance. I don't have really high expectations, but HBO dramas have been pretty consistently great for my tastes these last few years so I'm certainly optimistic.
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This one I'm also curious about. Don't know anything more than it being an HBO show with some buzz about it, which is pretty much enough for me to be interested.
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Following, have it on my DVR but havent gotten a chance to watch. I heard from my coworker the first episode was great and would be right up my ally.
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I watched the first episode and really enjoyed it. Seeing Dice as Buck Rogers is awesome. This show has potential and even though there is a lot of bouncing around to different time periods, it's not difficult to keep up with. I DVR'd the second episode but have yet to watch it.
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I also finally watched the pilot episode last night. I really liked it. Seemed like a typical Scorsese "film". I say that because I believe that was the only episode directed by Scorsese and it seemed to have a bit of a Goodfellas vibe to it, just placed around "music" instead of the "mob". The drugs and the murder and just the dialogue. Also had that same type of humor. Found myself laughing out loud a bunch of times. I have the 2nd episode on my dvr which I will have to watch soon.
Like jasc, I didn't totally understand the music scenes either. They did seem to be fairly random, but maybe with another watch I'd start to be able to understand them with the plot. I did really enjoy a lot of the music though and thought that added to my overall enjoyment of the show.
edit, thanks for the correction PS
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I think you mean jasc. ;)
There were specific intentions with the musical interludes, either from him remembering a time in the past, or just a spontaneous reflection on the moment he was in.
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There were specific intentions with the musical interludes, either from him remembering a time in the past, or just a spontaneous reflection on the moment he was in.
I'm sure you are right, I just didn't pick up on all of them, maybe since I was quite out of it by the time I hit my bed last night I mean, I trust the guys making this show to have a reason for placing the music where/when they do, just didn't pick it all up on first watch. It was also a fairly in depth 2 hour episode.
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There were specific intentions with the musical interludes, either from him remembering a time in the past, or just a spontaneous reflection on the moment he was in.
I'm sure you are right, I just didn't pick up on all of them, maybe since I was quite out of it by the time I hit my bed last night I mean, I trust the guys making this show to have a reason for placing the music where/when they do, just didn't pick it all up on first watch. It was also a fairly in depth 2 hour episode.
I'm going to watch it again because I was also distracted and I'm sure we'll see more of these interludes throughout the show. Just when I didn't want to get involved in another television series... :lol
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Episode 2 was awesome. I loved his "watching" of Enter the Dragon, and how that manifested later in the show. :lol
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I DVR'd it. I'm going to check it out when I get home later. I can't wait!
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I had such high hopes. The premiere definitely had a 'Goodfellas' and 'Casino' vibe.
Personal tastes: Ray Romano was good. I don't like Dice Clay, but he was damn good. Seemed to be almost a carbon copy of the drug guy in 'Boogie Nights'. And, OK, we get it, there was cocaine around, but who reacts to it like that? I felt he was Tuco, and wanted to say 'Tight! Tight! Tight!' at every snort.
The timeline was off as to punk rock. The 'Clay' incident wasn't needed, as there are more than enough other 'demons' to write about, like Peter Grant. "But he's so intimidating!!!! (yeah, all five foot nine of him :D) I hated the drinking scene with his wife. I lost all interest at the ending: as the walls began to crack, I was waiting for blood to spill from buckets, and Carrie to emerge.
It just seemed that everything had to be the lowest common denominator. I'm going to pass altogether, just as I did after two of the 2015 'True Detective' episodes, unless I hear different reviews a couple of months from now.
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I'm liking it so far--very interested to see where it goes.
I was talking with my dad about this, but my favorite scene in the pilot was the scene where Richie is getting mad at the A&R department when they are listening to Abba and all of the A&R people are ripping into it and Richie goes "No, these guys are going to be filling football stadiums." I found that this was my favorite scene in the pilot and loved the dynamic of showing what it was like in the record labels when they want to find the next big thing. That was the most interesting scene to me.
Also man,
*SPOILER*
Andrew Dice Clay's character dies a horrible death. I cringe every time I see it, especially that last blow to the head
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Dice Clay was AWESOME. That character was hilarious.
Watched episode two last night. Really enjoyed it. Richie is such an interesting character and the actor is great. Just all around love the music theme of this show.
I honestly thought from episode one that the building collapse was all in his head from taking the coke from the first scene as it seems once he did that, things went kind of crazy and that he woke up with the epiphany to keep the company going... well nope, that building did come down on him :lol which is kind of unbelievable, but so far that is my only gripe.
I'm guessing Ray Romano's character is going to turn into a real thorn in Richie's side. His wife is such a bitch!
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Hey oooohhhh!
I keep watching the scene with Dice Clay before he gets murdered. It's TV gold if you ask me, so hilarious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HMmSzLc3VE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HMmSzLc3VE)
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I watched the second episode last night. This show is going to be amazing; I can just tell.
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Just got caught up with episode 3. After the firehose of background information in episode 1, the next episodes can actually tell the story in a more deliberate manner. Looks to be a good series.
I haven't been able to follow all plots, so I'm not entirely sure why Richie is still indebted to Galasso. It seems related to the Buck Rogers situation, but there seems to be a bigger thing going on there.
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All caught up. Show is dying a bit in terms of comedy, but the story is still interesting. Richie just keeps screwing himself over, but I love the perspective of the record label and what they are doing to the Nasty Bits. I'm wondering if all of Richie's crap is about to put him and the label under and then the Nasty Bits nail the opening for The New York Dolls and saves his ass.
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With noticing this guy always shooting himself in the foot, I've come to the realization that this is going to be like Californication except not as good.
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Finally started watching my saved up DVR episodes. I'm in the middle so far. Worst scene for me was the building collapse. It was ridiculous. Nobody but Richie seemed to notice the massive structural failures happening, so I figured it must be him hallucinating or a dream that had meaning for him (the label falling apart). When it was passed off as an actual event, I really had to talk myself into continuing on.
I don't like the musical interludes either. And for people that love music (DTF) to not like it, that clearly means it wasn't done right.
Despite all that, I do enjoy the cameos (that aren't really cameos). Alice Cooper was fun. The basic plot (saving his label) is interesting as well. But I have to admit, it isn't like Richie has a real vision for the business and outside forces are fighting him on it. He seems rudderless, so instead of rooting for him to pull it off, you wonder "pull what off?" I started to *root* for Ray Romano (because he's Ray), but he's not all that likeable either. Devon actually annoys me. You didn't get your $10,000 check to fake a run on your fundraising and now you are looking for a divorce (or attention for looking for a divorce). Ugh.
Heck, the only truly likeable character I can think of is Lester Grimes. Then maybe Kip (Mick Jagger's kid). He has some arrogance, but not only is he a punk rocker, but he's young ... so that's par for the course. And in some ways, he has a little bit of honor (although not when pushed). And then probably Jamie (Juno Temple). Likeability in that order.
All the royalty, recoup, etc. music business talk is fun. Reminds me of taking the music business class.
Except for the blatantly obvious (Dice murder and save business), not really sure where this is going. Feels like it could get good any minute. I'll give it to the end of Season 1. And mainly because it is about the music industry.
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I am watching it, but I too keep hoping each episode it will pick up, but at this point I won't watch next season (if there is one)
I like the lead Bobby Canavale in Boardwalk Empire, he is a great actor, but so far it is just lacking something...maybe it needs a zombie or a dragon! :smiley:
Seriously though, I will stick it out for the season, to see if he gets caught for the murder or something more starts happening.
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I like the lead Bobby Canavale in Boardwalk Empire
Besides the music connection, he is the #1 reason I scheduled the DVR in the first place. Loved him in Boardwalk. And quite honestly, he's doing a good job here. I can't fault his performance at all. I fault the writing with his shortcomings. He's got a good ear. Ok? Then he should have told his A&R people where the record label is actually headed. Not just "new". That's probably the basic goal of every record label. Ground floor of the next big thing. So why isn't he out there trying to discover an act or two himself? His management style of telling everybody to "do great or else" is awful.
Watching him scribble the indie label name and logo ideas was cringeworthy. What is he? A freshman in high school?
Obviously he still has a ear. And obviously at one time it grew the company into a big label. I'm hoping this season ends with him getting some of his mojo back. Won't watch 3 to 5 seasons of a rudderless boss.
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Yea, Bobby is doing great in this show. Really love his acting. That last episode was really good, infact, the last two were really good. Loved Elvis pulling out the gun, reminded me of Buck Rogers doing the same from episode 1.
As for this,
Heck, the only truly likeable character I can think of is Lester Grimes. Then maybe Kip (Mick Jagger's kid).
I agree. None of these characters are "likeable" which is odd that I like the series so much, but none of the characters. Well I do love Richie's character, but not him because well he is a total douchebag.
I think it's about rooting for the label, not for any character. Ray Romano's character is likeable, but he kind of went off the rails a bit in the last episode and Richie totally fucked him.
Looks like next week the fallout from Buck Rogers is finally going to start playing a bigger role in the story, which I figured would happen eventually. My bet is Corso is going to get killed.
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I'm assuming spoilers are allowed in specific TV show threads (as opposed to talking about Vinyl outside of this thread).
Richie seems irredeemable at this point. I'm not rooting for a new American Century revival. I'm kind of rooting for its demise and/or split. If this goes a few seasons, it seems like an obvious drama tangent that somebody like Romano goes from being a partner to a rival.
I haven't checked the reviews, but if DTF is saying it isn't doing well by the critics, then the show may be ending soon.
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There will be a second season. (renewed for one more as of now)
I always thought from the beginning Ray (funny how we keep referring to him as Ray) would turn against Richie, but after last episode it seems even more likely because I'd imagine Ray finds out where the money went and that's the end of their "friendship".
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Finally finished this.
Jeez, what an awesome show. I understand that some fans and critics didn't care for it as much, but I thought the writing and acting was really rich and immersive. I thought it was a fantastic show, and I am looking forward to season 2.
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I really liked this show as well, but I get a lot of the criticism. The whole season, not much really happened. It seemed every week was the same, Richie burying himself further. At the end, it seems like he might have just saved himself, but only temporarily and therefore there was no real season arc. Having said that, I found a lot of the writing to be great and the acting was superb. I found the show very entertaining and funny so for that, it's enough reason to continue watching even if the story itself is not the greatest. I look forward to next season too.
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4 episodes in and I love it. Fucking aces.
I don't like the musical interludes either. And for people that love music (DTF) to not like it, that clearly means it wasn't done right.
If DTF does not like the music, then that's my clue that it's worth hearing.
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The music was fine, not sure why anyone wouldn't like it.
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Keep in mind where we're discussing this. :lol
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Well...
If you don't have a love for the time period, and the music of the time period, I'm not sure why you are watching the show.
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I thought the music itself was fine, just some of the interlude scenes were uninteresting.
but I think there is a lot more to the show than just enjoying the music.
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HBO Cancels ‘Vinyl,’ Scrapping Plans for a Season 2 Revamp (https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/vinyl-cancel-hbo-bobby-cannavale-season-2-scrapped-1201801263/)
Shit.
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Fuck.
I had been critical of some aspects of this show, but I really did enjoy it and was looking forward to another season >:(
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yeah I'm bummed about this, it wasn't a perfect show but I enjoyed it a lot. my dad's annoyed since we just visited the HBO store in NY last week and he bought a t-shirt from vinyl :lol
go figure... :face palm:
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Really not surprising though considering the cost of this show, the low ratings, and then the drama with Terrance Winter getting kicked off. Just sucks because I loved watching Bobby act as Richie.
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Bobby Cannavale can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.
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Bums me out. I'm 5 episodes into the 10 episode first season, and I'm loving it! I was all excited that they'd been renewed for a second season, but now they've gone back on it. And I'm told that this leaves a lot of unanswered questions.
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Well, everything isn't wrapped up in a tidy bow. But I was satisfied with the season.
If that's all we get, I feel like I got a complete story. Not just part of a story.
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Well, everything isn't wrapped up in a tidy bow. But I was satisfied with the season.
If that's all we get, I feel like I got a complete story. Not just part of a story.
I wouldn't say a complete story at all, but they did at least wrap up the biggest storyline of the season for the most part, just nothing else.
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Since I'm not really in tune with what goes on in the land of TV, I only found out about the cancellation from Mike Portnoy's Twitter account. I thought one of the replies to his tweet was kinda funny:
@MikePortnoy I wanted #Vinyl to be about music. Scorsese makes everything into an Italian mob show
I thought that plotline was a bit out of place the whole season, but maybe there is some historical relevance there.
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Scorsese does always do movies/shows with a mob influence. I was actually surprised there was less of one in this show (although it seemed like if they ddi a second season, the mob presence would have been larger). And the show was still more about the record label than the mob anyway.