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Title: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: DragonAttack on February 01, 2016, 02:58:09 PM
Starting a separate thread because I see various comments strewn about.

What do you hear on TA that reminds you of some other song?  It can be the music or the 'feel'.

A Life Left Behind beginning-Tempus Fugit, Yes
2285 Entr'acte-Illumination Theory, DT (mentioned by a few)
Lord Nefaryus-King Herod's Song, JCSuperstar (with a bit of Pilate singing)
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: pdurbin22 on February 01, 2016, 03:01:21 PM
The Bow down to Nafaryus riff from "Three Days" (and "2285 Entr'acte") is very similar to part of DT's own "Raw Dog."
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Post by: pcs90 on February 01, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
There's a melody in Chosen that reminds me a bit of The Bigger Picture's chorus. The Answer and Begin Again remind me of Disney but I don't know any specific songs to reference there, they just give off that sort of vibe to me.
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Post by: wolven74 on February 01, 2016, 03:52:59 PM
With regards to "feel".....

The riff that opens Our New World gave me that same sort of "fuck yeah!!!" feel I got on first hearing About To Crash (Reprise) opening lick, or the melody to Surrounded. Very upbeat and uplifting. :metal
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
That weird cabaret / swing part of Three Days reminds me a lot of " Dr. Jazz " from Bonzo Dog Band :lol
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Post by: TAC on February 01, 2016, 04:29:25 PM
The ending of Begin Again totally reminds me of Do They Know It's Christmas?.

And Lord Nefaryus has a wicked Queen vibe.
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Post by: chrisbDTM on February 01, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
Posted this in the they thread but a lot of this album reminds me of Disney
There's alot of parts on the album that sound like pure Disney to me ESPECIALLY Begin Again. obviously not exact but alot of the faythe stuff reminds me of Menken.
Dream Theater (https://youtu.be/u2iWardV_7E?t=1m59s)....What I Hear (https://youtu.be/Ad7ejBn3KSQ?t=2m45s)
 


Also that instrumental part at the end of begin again
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Post by: Hanz Gruber on February 01, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
The way that the 1st line in "Begin Again" is sung reminds me of a song by Def Leppard called "Kings of the World"

Compare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iox7gBKhMag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iox7gBKhMag)

(Start at the 40 second mark and compare)


Also "Kings of the World" reminded me of Queen when I 1st heard it.  How deep will this go!?



The ending of Begin Again totally reminds me of Do They Know It's Christmas?.

And Lord Nefaryus has a wicked Queen vibe.

Also this.  I played that part for my wife and began badly singing "feed the world"
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Post by: CDrice on February 01, 2016, 05:09:47 PM
I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 01, 2016, 05:37:31 PM
I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme

Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 01, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme

Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o

And Enigma Machine :lol
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Post by: Nearmyth on February 01, 2016, 05:56:54 PM
A Life Left Behind keeps wanting to turn into The Spirit Carries On for me.
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Post by: Mosh on February 01, 2016, 06:05:36 PM
I get a Lion King vibe from 3:58ish of Dystopian Overture.
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Post by: KevShmev on February 01, 2016, 06:16:11 PM
The vocal melody at the end of Hymn Of A Thousand Voices is sorta like the one in Kaipa's Distant Voices.

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Post by: wideworldofmike on February 01, 2016, 06:28:17 PM
A better life melody seems to heavily reference behind the veil.
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Post by: wideworldofmike on February 01, 2016, 06:30:03 PM
...and although they sound nothing alike stylisticly for some reason Heavens Cove always make me think of Queen's "The Prophet's Song"...which if you haven't heard has the coolest vocal solo section in the middle.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 01, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme

Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o

I believe DT themselves referred to the opening bit as the Inspector Gadget riff. I do love a good Inspector Gadget riff. :metal
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Post by: DreamTension on February 01, 2016, 09:29:30 PM
The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.
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Post by: TheGreatPretender on February 01, 2016, 09:36:29 PM
Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on February 01, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?
I was about to say this. The intro was by far my favorite part of OTBOA, so I'm glad they brought that style back.
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Post by: Moor on February 02, 2016, 12:15:38 AM
The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.

For me this is the major one; it is 95% the same.
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Post by: Ħ on February 02, 2016, 12:23:08 AM
"Heaven's Cove" sounds like "Is There Anybody Out There?" (Pink Floyd)
Also, one of the melodic motifs sounds like "Point of No Return" (Phantom of the Opera).

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Post by: matthewmatt on February 02, 2016, 12:24:56 AM
Lord Nefaryus-King Herod's Song, JCSuperstar (with a bit of Pilate singing)

YES! King Herod's Song as sung by Pilate, that's exactly what went through my mind this morning when I played the song.

Also, the beginning of A Tempting Offer reminds me a lot of the beginning of Behind the Veil.
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Post by: BlackInk on February 02, 2016, 12:31:07 AM
The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.

This melody turns into the first verse of Lost Not Forgotten for me.

Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?

And yes, definetely this.
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Post by: rumborak on February 02, 2016, 12:51:23 AM
What the hell. This far into the thread and nobody has mentioned yet that
Brother Can You Hear Me = Waiting For The Worms (Pink Floyd)
A Life Left Behind = Tempus Fugit (Yes)

I mean, The Wall and Drama are obviously a huge influence for them for this type of thing.
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 02, 2016, 01:20:13 AM
They've been mentioned in the other thread buried somewhere. Tempus Fugit multiple times. I very much dislike the whole vibe of Brother Can You Hear Me.
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Post by: V_R11 on February 02, 2016, 01:21:53 AM
A New Beginning Intro = Pirates of the Caribean theme
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Post by: YtseJamittaja on February 02, 2016, 01:31:14 AM
The Path that Devides have that Symphony X riff somewhere at 2:30 mark iirc.

Heaven's Cove sounds heavily like Headspace when vocals start.

Brother, Can You Hear me theme reminds me somehow Hark The Herald Angels Sing  :D
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Post by: RoeDent on February 02, 2016, 01:35:29 AM
Some passages which remind me a bit of other songs:

A New Beginning intro = Ayreon

NOMAC tracks = interlude between Panic Attack and Never Enough on Octavarium

Ending instrumental of Begin Again = "Embrace the days" section of BAI, but faster.
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 02, 2016, 01:42:41 AM
NOMAC tracks = interlude between Panic Attack and Never Enough on Octavarium

Exactly what I thought, is it fan conspiracy time?? Octavarium is a sequel to The Astonishing, where the NOMACS power up again years later and destroy The Great Northern Empire. Then we meet The Dark Master....
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Post by: Onno on February 02, 2016, 01:44:05 AM
Nobody has mentioned the Billy Jean beat in A New Beginning? I mean, it's a standard 4/4 drum beat, but the moment it kicks in I'm always reminded of Billy Jean.
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 02, 2016, 01:45:40 AM
Nobody has mentioned the Billy Jean beat in A New Beginning? I mean, it's a standard 4/4 drum beat, but the moment it kicks in I'm always reminded of Billy Jean.

Nomac Jean is not my lover, it's just a drone that thinks that I am the one.....
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Post by: The Curious Orange on February 02, 2016, 02:21:35 AM
There's a riff in Heaven's Cove reminds me of the James Bond theme.

The Answer reminds me of Beneath the Surface (too much)

I'm also getting the themes from the old Incredible Hulk and Buck Rogers TV shows...
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Post by: ReaPsTA on February 02, 2016, 03:41:08 AM
The very beginning of A New Beginning gives me a strong Amorphis vibe.
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Post by: genome on February 02, 2016, 04:15:30 AM
Heaven's Cove - Is There Anybody Out There? (Pink Floyd)
Lord Nafaryus - general early Queen vibe
Begin Again - You Raise Me Up
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Post by: IdoSC on February 02, 2016, 07:19:03 AM
James' singing on Lord Nafaryus (entire song), the beginning of Three Days, and Nafaryus' parts on A New Beginning are extremely Matt Bellamy esque. Too bad he didn't sing that way on Never Enough :(
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Post by: matthewmatt on February 02, 2016, 07:25:20 AM
Oh, and the Brother, Can You Hear Me? theme reminds me of the chorus of the Beach Boys' Don't Go Near the Water.  ;D  ;D
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Post by: Paintbox on February 02, 2016, 09:23:45 AM
Brother Can You Hear Me reminds me of Outside The Wall and The Wall in general.
2.05 of The Path That Divides sounds like 2.10 of Scarred.
There were other moments but I can't think of them now
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Post by: Zydar on February 02, 2016, 09:25:47 AM
Oh, and the Brother, Can You Hear Me? theme reminds me of the chorus of the Beach Boys' Don't Go Near the Water.  ;D  ;D

Whoah, good call :tup
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Post by: wizard of Thought on February 02, 2016, 09:47:59 AM
The intro of A New Beginning reminds me of Cowboys From Hell (Pantera) for some reason.
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Post by: pdurbin22 on February 02, 2016, 09:55:43 AM
"Our New World" has a similar vibe to "The Way It Used To Be."
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Post by: Progmetty on February 02, 2016, 09:59:51 AM
On my first few listens to The Gift of Music; "Changing the course of history" sounded like "Now I'm spoiled beyond my wildest dreams"
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 02, 2016, 10:00:11 AM
The Answer - Disney.
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Post by: gm5k on February 02, 2016, 10:24:20 AM
The piano intro of "The X Aspect" always reminds me of "Monster" by K-Pop group Big Bang  :lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh-LBREbExs

Intro 12 string part of "Heaven's Cove" and OTBOA.

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Post by: breaktheprisonwall on February 02, 2016, 10:44:01 AM
Personally, I have heard several sections that, to my ears, actually reference past DT songs/albums. A couple that immediately jump to mind are:

-the intro to Heaven's Cove (On The Backs Of Angels)
-a vocal bit in Moment Of Betrayal (The Great Debate)
-the Arhys/Daryus back and forth in The Path That Divides (similar to verses in This Dying Soul)
- the last minute or so of My Last Farewell (The Ministry of Lost Souls)
- the NOMAC tracks (the transition between Panic Attack and Never Enough)

I don't know if anyone else has heard these or if it's just me, and I'm sure there are more that I can't think of right now, but I think it's kind of cool that they are self-referencing a large chunk of their past. (I mean, I know that they have done this before but I don't think I've heard references to so many different albums in one album before.)

Edit: How could I forget- the into to Dystopian Overture is extremely similar to A Nightmare To Remember.
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Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on February 02, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc
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Post by: genome on February 02, 2016, 02:46:48 PM
A Life Left Behind's chorus reminds me a little bit of Resolve by the Foo Fighters.
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Post by: lovethedrake on February 02, 2016, 02:58:01 PM
A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar

The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.
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Post by: lovethedrake on February 02, 2016, 03:04:56 PM
Also definitely agree that Brother Can you hear me sounds "The Wall"  which is why it's one of my favorite tracks on the album.  It also reminds me of Spirit Carries on a bit.

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Post by: rumborak on February 02, 2016, 03:55:02 PM
A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar

Funny thing is, I have never heard a single tune from Jesus Christ Superstar. But when I heard A New Beginning I thought to myself "that's what JCSS must sound like".
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Post by: nicmos on February 02, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
"Bow down to Nafaryus" in Three Days keeps making me think of Fistful of Sand from Redemption
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Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on February 02, 2016, 07:38:22 PM
The riff in Lord Nafaryus about a minute in is almost straight out of the TMOLS instrumental section.
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Post by: NoseofNicko on February 02, 2016, 07:44:08 PM
This part from Dystopian Overture (and A New Beginning) sounds extremely familiar to me:

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab (https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab)

Does it sound familiar to anyone else? If so, do you know what it sounds like?

Oh and also I really feel like I've heard the chorus from Three Days before. Anyone has any clue?
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Post by: The Hairy Man on February 03, 2016, 06:17:15 AM
The piano intro to The X Aspect always makes me think of the Lonely Man music from The Incredible Hulk, impossible for me to unhear.
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Post by: genome on February 03, 2016, 06:46:47 AM
^ I thought it was a direct reference, it's basically note for note!
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Post by: EstyMaJ on February 03, 2016, 07:05:43 AM
Moment of Betrayal reminds me a lot of the band Redemption
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Post by: SjundeInseglet on February 03, 2016, 10:50:12 AM
Three Days (the "He will surrender on his own" part) = Oogie Boogie's Song (Nightmare Before Christmas)
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Post by: BelichickFan on February 03, 2016, 01:14:24 PM
This isn't a "part" but the feel of the CD reminds me most of Shadow Gallery's Tyranny.
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Post by: chego_voice on February 03, 2016, 05:51:47 PM
Dystopian Overture 2:51 / SFAM vibe (Overture 1928?)
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Post by: Octawakeimages on February 03, 2016, 09:18:38 PM
A part of Ravenskill sounds similar to "Band on the Run".

Wings - Band on the Run - https://youtu.be/6uAuSn0EgQs?t=1m48s

Ravenskill - https://youtu.be/8ddtGKtoYtg?t=2m45s
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Post by: The Curious Orange on February 04, 2016, 01:17:36 AM
The first bit of "Chosen" reminds me of "You Needed Me" by Anne Murray.
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Post by: chrisbDTM on February 04, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
I hear paramore's 'the only exception' in a life left behind's verses
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Post by: bosk1 on February 04, 2016, 04:58:08 PM
The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc

Whoa.  I LOVE that song, but I hadn't even thought of that connection. 
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Post by: Rickharris1011 on February 04, 2016, 06:40:20 PM
The intro and main keyboard melody in When Your Time Has Come sounds straight out of a Sammy Hagar-era Van Halen song (a good thing in my book)
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Post by: jvelvet3 on February 04, 2016, 06:53:37 PM
The chorus of Our New World - specifically the way James sings "Build a new worrrrrrreerrrrrroooold" reminded me of something...but I couldn't pinpoint just what it was. Then (spoiler) it hit me! Pink Floyds Take It Back. I've listened to them both now, and while they don't really sound that much alike, I'm sticking to my original story.
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Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on February 04, 2016, 11:21:43 PM
The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc

Whoa.  I LOVE that song, but I hadn't even thought of that connection.

Ha! Interesting. The first three or four times I heard ONW I was like "this sounds like something..." and it was bothering me. Then I realized that was the song. Ironically maybe the only other usage of bagpipes in hard rock/metal that I'm familiar with.
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Post by: Dreamer on February 05, 2016, 01:07:19 AM
If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:

I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn

I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purist gold.
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Post by: ZKX-2099 on February 05, 2016, 06:01:47 AM
A New Beginning - 4:43

Metropolis - 4:30
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 05, 2016, 06:13:20 AM
The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.
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Post by: CoT67 on February 05, 2016, 08:01:59 AM
Dunno if it was already mentioned somewhere else, but certain parts and vocal lines are strongly reminiscent of Disney songs... the Nafaryus parts especially give off a strong Aladdin/Nightmare Before Christmas vibe, both in melody and delivery.

Also, there's a part in Dystopian Overture with a choir melody that has a sort of Lion King vibe and a drum rhythm that is strongly reminiscent of Overture 1928.
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 05, 2016, 03:18:20 PM
The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?
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Post by: Vandalism on February 06, 2016, 02:13:24 AM
During the verses of ANB, I find myself singing "tell me does this hurt you........said the faceless man....Can you move all of your fingers.......cna you try your best to stand?"
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Post by: ? on February 06, 2016, 05:10:59 AM
Begin Again - You Raise Me Up
The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.
I noticed these two immediately. I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't notice the Hemispheres melody in Brother, Can You Hear Me? until people started pointing it out, although I'm a huge Rush fan. :blush
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Post by: EraVulgaris on February 06, 2016, 06:08:37 AM
This part of Dystopian Overture (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5zHZN7ZoGc&t=0m24s) is basically the theme from Luigi's Mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQ43ObPMHQ&t=10s). Noticed that right away and can never not hear it. Pretty sure it's a coincidence although I like the idea that sometime during the writing process, Petrucci went like "Dude, Jordan, remember that rad vocal line from that Luigi game?"
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Post by: dodido253 on February 06, 2016, 06:15:08 AM
Heaven's Cove chorus reminds me The Unforgiven III by Metallica 
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Post by: KevShmev on February 06, 2016, 07:49:45 AM
I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.

The beginning of Heaven's Cove is eerily similar to the second half of Pink Floyd's Is There Anybody Out There? That couldn't be more obvious.
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Post by: V_R11 on February 06, 2016, 12:41:57 PM
A New Beginning 2:35-2:48 has a Bohemian Rhapsody vibe to me
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 06, 2016, 01:04:37 PM
For some reason the ending of Begin Again makes me think of Earthbound/The Mother Series.

Three Days has that Diablo Swing Orchestra feel going.
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Post by: home on February 06, 2016, 03:56:28 PM
Posted this already somewhere in The Astonishong thread but the chorus of Moment of Betrayal reminds me of the "my soul will burn" part of Iron Maiden's The thin line between love and hate.
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Post by: DragonAttack on February 06, 2016, 08:53:26 PM
Wanted to hear feedback, and it has been great to share and learn others feedback.  From this, I will be checking out the feedback of the offerings.

A new one:  'Brother, Can You Hear Me?'.....well, it is a combo of 'In The Name Of God' fadeout (vocal 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic').

and.......how often does one get a chuckle during a DT album?  This has a ton.  To think, the last time I felt mentally 'UP' during a DT track, was 'Solitary Shelf'...........and who da thunk it was about a topic as depressing as autism/Asberger's/bi-polar/schizophrenia...?
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Post by: rumborak on February 07, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
The middle of X Aspect gives me a "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" vibe, particularly JR's organ playing. How's that for a random association.
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Post by: Evermind on February 07, 2016, 10:18:16 AM
Wanted to hear feedback, and it has been great to share and learn others feedback.  From this, I will be checking out the feedback of the offerings.

A new one:  'Brother, Can You Hear Me?'.....well, it is a combo of 'In The Name Of God' fadeout (vocal 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic').

and.......how often does one get a chuckle during a DT album?  This has a ton.  To think, the last time I felt mentally 'UP' during a DT track, was 'Solitary Shelf'...........and who da thunk it was about a topic as depressing as autism/Asberger's/bi-polar/schizophrenia...?

Well I think I would've chuckled during Solitary Shelf too. :lol
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Post by: Joshgirouard on February 07, 2016, 11:46:50 AM
The intro to heavens cove reminds me of the song rapture by Jeff loomis
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 07, 2016, 12:54:34 PM
The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?

Moment of Betrayal verses remind me of The Count of Tuscany verses.
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Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on February 07, 2016, 03:02:50 PM
3:12 in Heaven's Cove reminds me of the James Bond theme
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 07, 2016, 05:00:24 PM
Listening to Our New World today and it was totally giving me a " You're The Voice " vibe.  :biggrin: :metal.

I love both songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2fB7yR_7_4  < - - - If DT ever covered it - it might sound something like this. .
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Post by: Darkstarshades on February 07, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Parts of TA remind me of her...
And how we could never be together because of her father....

 :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 07, 2016, 06:43:25 PM
The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?

Moment of Betrayal verses remind me of The Count of Tuscany verses.

Same Kotow! Both songs
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Post by: chknptpie on February 07, 2016, 08:04:29 PM
I'm still digesting this album, but I know for sure I heard some Yes and another song that I couldn't place. Will take some more time to figure it out for myself lol
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Post by: Pragmaticcircus on February 07, 2016, 11:09:12 PM
Instead of saying what songs, I'll give you the lyrics I can't stop hearing:

"Brother Can You Hear Me?
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand"  :huh:

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Post by: Moor on February 08, 2016, 12:01:02 AM
I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.


Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0
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Post by: Lax on February 08, 2016, 08:51:30 AM
Heaven's cove intro makes me think of Diablo 2 12 strings theme :) And I love it
Later there is a james bond vibe with chords.
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Post by: pretorios on February 08, 2016, 09:08:20 AM
Lord Nafaryus ... Queen for sure.

Three Days ... the opening vocals sound like Queen, but the rest of the song sounds so much like Savatage from the Poets and Madmen era that I  can hear Jon Oliva doing the vocals.
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Post by: Luoto on February 08, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
Lord Nafaryus ... Queen for sure.

James sounds a lot like Matt Bellamy there too.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on February 08, 2016, 12:31:12 PM
A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar

The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.

You're right!

A New Beginning - 4:43

Metropolis - 4:30

That one I didn't notice before. Nice!

The ones that remind me of "Metropolis part 1" (at 0:45) are:

I know it's really a short 'phrase', but they are the exact same notes, over a heavy music background, in E minor. So maybe not much of a coincidence?
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on February 08, 2016, 12:47:26 PM
Also: I was in some sort of a "Yes phase" 7 years ago, but mainly their '90s music. Obviously the intro to "A Life Left Behind" sounds a lot like Yes, as many of you have pointed out. I'm particularly reminded of the intros to "Miracle Of Life" & "New Language".

Also, "Moment Of Betrayal" at 3:33 reminds of something from Keys To Ascension, but I can't remember what. Maybe "Mind Drive"?

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Post by: pretorios on February 08, 2016, 01:14:22 PM
The beginning of The Walking Shadow reminds of of a particular Slayer song, but I can't think of it at the moment.
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Post by: nicmos on February 08, 2016, 01:38:43 PM
If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:

I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn

I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purist gold.

It's funny, I hadn't seen this on the thread honestly, but I kept finding that when Brother Can You Hear Me was in my head, it would always turn into that section of Hemispheres.  I came back here to see if anyone noticed it too.  I guess I'm not alone!
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Post by: Thematt202 on February 14, 2016, 05:49:53 AM
Our New World - Friends by Joe Satriani
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Post by: Sixtease on February 14, 2016, 10:16:01 AM
The Gift of Music - Olympic: Jasná zpráva
 (https://youtu.be/iZhLqDh-lVY?t=43)
Begin Again - Abba: The Winner Takes It All

Machine Chatter - Zerg music from Starcraft
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Post by: KevShmev on February 14, 2016, 12:24:35 PM
I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.


Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0

 :facepalm: I knew someone was going to do that, post the Rush song, even though I have heard it a million times to where I know it like the back of my hand. :lol :lol
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Post by: lordnafaryus on February 14, 2016, 12:39:20 PM

The first time I heard 'The Gift of Music' I was reminded of 'Spirit of the Radio' by Rush, because of the title and some of the tone/pacing of that song. But their influence has never exactly been a secret, so that's quite a boring observation really :)
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Post by: jayvee3 on February 14, 2016, 05:30:00 PM
This is stupid, but I laugh everytime I see the title "Whispers on the wind" because it reminds me of the movie Clerks, when Randall is reading out all the Porno movie titles (the first movie title is also called Whispers on the wind if you haven't seen the film)... Silly, yes. Juvenile, yes. But that's me...  :rollin

My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing...  :lol
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 14, 2016, 08:41:56 PM
My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing...  :lol

I never made a connection between either of those things, but being a huge fan of both Journey, and of anything Jimi Jamison (who did the Baywatch theme), I'd have no problem with it. :lol
I can sorta see the Journey comparison, being upbeat melodic rock with the chorus harmonies. DT have drawn inspiration from Journey before, so it's not too crazy a thought.
As I've said before, my first thought for ONW was actually About to Crash, at the 1:52 mark.
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Post by: jayvee3 on February 14, 2016, 10:41:57 PM
My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing...  :lol

I never made a connection between either of those things, but being a huge fan of both Journey, and of anything Jimi Jamison (who did the Baywatch theme), I'd have no problem with it. :lol
I can sorta see the Journey comparison, being upbeat melodic rock with the chorus harmonies. DT have drawn inspiration from Journey before, so it's not too crazy a thought.
As I've said before, my first thought for ONW was actually About to Crash, at the 1:52 mark.

Jimi did indeed do the Baywatch theme, we were more of the opinion it's like the 3-4 minute montage scene setting music that appeared in most episodes depending on the story arc... If I'm not mistaken, C.J. (Pammie Anderson) was playing the saxophone on some rocks at one stage... Maybe she was playing 'Another Day'...  :rollin ;D
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Post by: BlobVanDam on February 14, 2016, 11:05:51 PM
Jimi did indeed do the Baywatch theme, we were more of the opinion it's like the 3-4 minute montage scene setting music that appeared in most episodes depending on the story arc... If I'm not mistaken, C.J. (Pammie Anderson) was playing the saxophone on some rocks at one stage... Maybe she was playing 'Another Day'...  :rollin ;D

Oh, well the only Baywatch episode I've watched in the past 20 years is the one with the WCW wrestlers for the sake of the hilarious badness, so I can't relate to that. I only know the theme, because it's Jimi Jamison. :lol And the incredibad outro theme sung by the Hoff himself.
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Post by: Moor on February 14, 2016, 11:57:38 PM
I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.


Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about  :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0

 :facepalm: I knew someone was going to do that, post the Rush song, even though I have heard it a million times to where I know it like the back of my hand. :lol :lol

Sorry mate...your joke was such a great one to the extent that I missed it... it is either me or you should be using the green color more often   :biggrin:
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Post by: Nefarius on February 15, 2016, 06:53:27 AM
Brother, Can You Hear Me? has a certain Pink Floyd flavor in the intro and the flow of the melody.

The first minute of A Life Left Behind feels a lot like Spock's Beard to me.

The piano intro and a few melodies of Ravenskill gave me To The Moon (computer game) flashbacks.

The acoustic guitars in Heaven's Cove were like Queensr˙che meet On The Backs Of Angels, the synth/piano melody twists a little later just scream Ayreon.

Greetings...
Nef
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Post by: chknptpie on February 15, 2016, 03:57:49 PM
The piano intro to The X Aspect always makes me think of the Lonely Man music from The Incredible Hulk, impossible for me to unhear.

Had to have my husband listen to it and tell me what it was. I recognized it instantly, but couldn't place it!
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 15, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Heaven's Cove reminds me of Diablo 1/Diablo II Tristram music.
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Post by: genome on February 16, 2016, 04:26:23 AM
There is a section in A New Beginning, a short solo before the middle piano section ("Not long ago..") which has a big Queen vibe.
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Post by: genome on February 16, 2016, 05:15:19 AM
Descent of the NOMACS - The Reapers from Mass Effect (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVoU30ixHrM)
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Post by: genome on February 17, 2016, 06:07:01 AM
I'm very surprised that no-one has mentioned 3:22 in Moment of Betrayal and 1:04 in The Enemy Inside.
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Post by: Train of Naught on February 17, 2016, 06:21:50 AM
I'm not.
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Post by: Moor on February 17, 2016, 06:43:40 AM
I'm not.

 :lol
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Post by: genome on February 17, 2016, 06:48:09 AM
It's the same rhythm, no?
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Post by: Moor on February 17, 2016, 06:54:16 AM
It's the same rhythm, no?
Yes, along with other maybe 30 DT songs  :biggrin:
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Post by: genome on February 17, 2016, 06:57:22 AM
The first part of it is the exact same rhythm, all on the snare. It immediately jumped out at me, maybe I'm the only one  :lol
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Post by: Dreamer on February 17, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
This may already have been mentioned, in A Life Left Behind, the verse that ends " And Somehow I'll find you"
It sounds exactly like something by some other American AOR band, I cant quite place it - is it Boston?
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Post by: Lycanthrope on February 18, 2016, 04:36:52 AM
The whole thing reminds of Disney's Beauty and the Beast...

Specifically, as mentioned elsewhere, I hear the theme from Rush's 2112 Oracle: The Dream in Dystopian Overture.
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Post by: RAIN on February 18, 2016, 07:24:59 AM
The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever.  You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song. 

And yes....uh...I have done the above...but I have little daughters so it's not weird, right?  ;)
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on February 18, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
When I got to around :41 in 2285 Entr'acte, it reminded me of the line around :21 in War Inside My Head.
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Post by: genome on February 24, 2016, 11:35:53 AM
There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"

Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part?  :-\
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 24, 2016, 03:23:33 PM
Didnt know where else to post this - every topic is about the new album :lol


but - the piano fadeout in "The Answer Lies Within" from Octavarium makes me think of Murph's theme from Interstellar.
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Post by: Enigmachine on February 24, 2016, 03:37:40 PM
There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"

Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part?  :-\

The "you are acting very strange" is apparantly like "anarchistic moral vision" or "life to save life". It's a bit of a stretch IMO.
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Post by: Lowdz on February 24, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
Heavens cove towards the end reminds me of the James Bond music.

Our new world reminds me of House of Lords' Under Blue Skies
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 24, 2016, 04:00:16 PM
1:33 The Walking Shadow = Mega Man :lol
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Post by: chaossystem on February 24, 2016, 04:12:06 PM
Heaven's Cove intro=intro to Suite Madam Blue by Styx.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 24, 2016, 04:17:34 PM
The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever.  You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song. 

And yes....uh...I have done the above...but I have little daughters so it's not weird, right?  ;)
Even if you didn't, nothing wrong with that.  They are both great movies.


Instead of saying what songs, I'll give you the lyrics I can't stop hearing:

"Brother Can You Hear Me?
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand"  :huh:

Ha!  Totally.  I knew I couldn't have been the only one.
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Post by: DragonAttack on February 24, 2016, 04:20:59 PM
Heaven's Cove intro=intro to Suite Madam Blue by Styx.

Ding!  I forgot to include that in my original post.
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Post by: Kotowboy on February 24, 2016, 05:56:06 PM

The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever.  You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song. 



Begin Again is way more Disney.
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Post by: shredd on February 27, 2016, 06:25:27 AM
I'm super surprised this one hasn't been discussed yet

3:43 of Moment Of Betrayal

is basically the same as:

8:04 of On The Backs Of Angels

To the untrained ear the differences are very subtle. the only obvious difference is the faster tempo of MOB.

Another one that was mentioned elsewhere but not in this thread is during the solo of When Your Time Has Come quotes a phrase from The Spirit Carries On solo
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Post by: DragonAttack on February 27, 2016, 12:39:30 PM
The first two minutes of 'A New Beginning'.....'Simon Zealotes / Poor Jerusalem',...yet again, from JC Superstar.

Christ, you know I love you
Did you see I waved?
I believe in you and God
So tell me that I'm saved
 Repeat

Jesus, I am with you
Touch me! Touch me Jesus!
Jesus, I am on your side
Kiss me! Kiss me Jesus!
*****
Father, I implore you
Don't believe a word
He is not the enemy
That is just absurd

You may see his talent
As some kind of threat
But I knew we were meant to be
From the day we met
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Post by: ytserush on February 27, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:

I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn

I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purest gold.

Ok...I'll admit it. The only reason I'm in this thread is to see if this was in here.

Carry on.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 09, 2016, 11:46:51 PM
The entire album reminds me of past works.


of course:

The Wall....

But also,

All the best classic songs to gratefully embrace humanity.
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Post by: erwinrafael on March 10, 2016, 02:18:03 AM
The first two minutes of 'A New Beginning'.....'Simon Zealotes / Poor Jerusalem',...yet again, from JC Superstar.

Christ, you know I love you
Did you see I waved?
I believe in you and God
So tell me that I'm saved
 Repeat

Jesus, I am with you
Touch me! Touch me Jesus!
Jesus, I am on your side
Kiss me! Kiss me Jesus!
*****
Father, I implore you
Don't believe a word
He is not the enemy
That is just absurd

You may see his talent
As some kind of threat
But I knew we were meant to be
From the day we met

This is gold.  :lol It's so similar.
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Post by: Enigmachine on March 10, 2016, 09:55:48 AM
This part from Dystopian Overture (and A New Beginning) sounds extremely familiar to me:

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab (https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab)

Does it sound familiar to anyone else? If so, do you know what it sounds like?

I think this sounds like the chorus to Pain of Salvation's 'America'.
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Post by: 1neeto on March 10, 2016, 02:21:58 PM
Not sure if mentioned, but Dystopian Overture beginning riff reminds me of ANTR.
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Post by: rumborak on March 15, 2016, 01:27:48 PM
The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 15, 2016, 06:34:02 PM
The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.
Oh yeah. The ending of "Hymn Of 1000 Voices" also feels similar to "Silent Night" - there are some identical melodies there. 
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Post by: BlobVanDam on March 15, 2016, 10:33:17 PM
The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.

It's totally Christmas. It's very off putting. :lol
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Post by: tarskian on March 17, 2016, 04:13:28 PM
For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days.  On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.
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Post by: Octavarious on March 20, 2016, 04:46:29 PM
Heaven's cove piano+keyboard following same notes has a sound (not the notes) that recall Genesis in the mid period just after Gabriel (hep!) went, namely Mad Man Moon or One for the Vine - hence all references to the "chosen one" like in that song? Mmmmhhhhh... :justjen
And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.
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Post by: Kotowboy on March 20, 2016, 04:53:46 PM
Loads of vocal melodies do a descending minor pentatonic triad at the end of lines.
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Post by: Enigmachine on March 20, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days.  On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.

It sounds more like Juular to me than Sumeria.

And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.

Nah. Similar shape though.
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Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 01:24:43 PM
For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days.  On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.

It sounds more like Juular to me than Sumeria.

And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.

Nah. Similar shape though.

Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA.  It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y.  It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
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Post by: Enigmachine on March 21, 2016, 01:28:18 PM
Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA.  It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y.  It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.

I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".
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Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 01:52:22 PM
Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA.  It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y.  It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.

I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".

Ah, cool!

It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.

As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!
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Post by: Enigmachine on March 21, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA.  It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y.  It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.

I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".

Ah, cool!

It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.

As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!

Myrath are amazing. Maybe even better than DT on an album-by-album basis.
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: tarskian on March 21, 2016, 08:25:19 PM
Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA.  It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y.  It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.

I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".

Ah, cool!

It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.

As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!

Myrath are amazing. Maybe even better than DT on an album-by-album basis.

I just listened to "Tales of the Sand," and really enjoyed it! I can see the similarities between some of the songs (especially Sour Sigh) and DT. Thanks for the heads-up! (And apologies if I derailed the thread.)
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: Enigmachine on March 22, 2016, 01:03:32 PM
I just listened to "Tales of the Sand," and really enjoyed it! I can see the similarities between some of the songs (especially Sour Sigh) and DT. Thanks for the heads-up! (And apologies if I derailed the thread.)

We have a Myrath thread here if you want to talk more about the band: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=20591.35

To get back to the thread's topic, Ravenskill in general kind of reminds me of modern Fates Warning. Just a vibe I get.
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: devieira73 on March 22, 2016, 01:29:11 PM
I'm bit lazy to check if this one was suggested before, but to me the guitar riff intro of "a new beggining" is very similar to the guitar riff intro of "Kiss - Uh! all night"  :omg: :biggrin: Just crazy...
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: matthewmatt on March 24, 2016, 10:51:00 AM
Also, many, many moments of the album remind me of Theocracy's song The Gift of Music, though, funnily enough, not The Gift of Music itself  ;D
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: Thematt202 on March 28, 2016, 02:46:22 PM
The piano riff near the start of The X Aspect is a near carbon copy of the part about 10 seconds into Horizons by Genesis.  Anyone else noticed this?
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: ToT-147 on March 28, 2016, 06:38:24 PM
The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.

Probably you're thinking of JLB's Oblivion (https://youtu.be/RHMGdQGVqMw?t=57)?.. That was one of the first similarities I could find from TA...

Also, the vocal melody at the start always reminds me of the one in Haken's The Point of No Return (https://youtu.be/Xt03KJw2IAU?t=109)..

There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"

Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part?  :-\

Actually, the first similar phrase/melody I've notice was precisely that one.. It's actually 1:31, "Brother give me strength..." (right before chorus) from MoB and 4:44 "In a labyrinth of rules..." (right before chorus) from TGD..

Another one from Moment of Betrayal: the main melody is almost the same as Men of Honor (the song) by Adrenaline Mob (https://youtu.be/c1sEVDRLloQ?t=12)'s main melody..
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 28, 2016, 09:16:20 PM
The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.

Probably you're thinking of JLB's Oblivion (https://youtu.be/RHMGdQGVqMw?t=57)?.. That was one of the first similarities I could find from TA...

I think I probably am! Same rhythm and distorted JLB vocals.
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: ToT-147 on April 02, 2016, 11:22:44 PM
Found another one:

Lord Nafaryus - Riff at 1:08..

The Ministry of Lost Souls - Riff at 8:34..

LN's is slower, but they're pretty much the same notes and/or have the same vibe..
Title: Re: Parts of 'The Astonishing' that remind you of......
Post by: matthewmatt on April 07, 2016, 06:58:51 AM
Also, somebody must have already posted this, but the Act of Faythe intro reminds me of Morricone (Deborah's Theme, maybe?) and/or "Albinoni’s" Adagio in G Minor.