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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: DragonAttack on February 01, 2016, 02:58:09 PM
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Starting a separate thread because I see various comments strewn about.
What do you hear on TA that reminds you of some other song? It can be the music or the 'feel'.
A Life Left Behind beginning-Tempus Fugit, Yes
2285 Entr'acte-Illumination Theory, DT (mentioned by a few)
Lord Nefaryus-King Herod's Song, JCSuperstar (with a bit of Pilate singing)
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The Bow down to Nafaryus riff from "Three Days" (and "2285 Entr'acte") is very similar to part of DT's own "Raw Dog."
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There's a melody in Chosen that reminds me a bit of The Bigger Picture's chorus. The Answer and Begin Again remind me of Disney but I don't know any specific songs to reference there, they just give off that sort of vibe to me.
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With regards to "feel".....
The riff that opens Our New World gave me that same sort of "fuck yeah!!!" feel I got on first hearing About To Crash (Reprise) opening lick, or the melody to Surrounded. Very upbeat and uplifting. :metal
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That weird cabaret / swing part of Three Days reminds me a lot of " Dr. Jazz " from Bonzo Dog Band :lol
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The ending of Begin Again totally reminds me of Do They Know It's Christmas?.
And Lord Nefaryus has a wicked Queen vibe.
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Posted this in the they thread but a lot of this album reminds me of Disney
There's alot of parts on the album that sound like pure Disney to me ESPECIALLY Begin Again. obviously not exact but alot of the faythe stuff reminds me of Menken.
Dream Theater (https://youtu.be/u2iWardV_7E?t=1m59s)....What I Hear (https://youtu.be/Ad7ejBn3KSQ?t=2m45s)
Also that instrumental part at the end of begin again
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The way that the 1st line in "Begin Again" is sung reminds me of a song by Def Leppard called "Kings of the World"
Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iox7gBKhMag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iox7gBKhMag)
(Start at the 40 second mark and compare)
Also "Kings of the World" reminded me of Queen when I 1st heard it. How deep will this go!?
The ending of Begin Again totally reminds me of Do They Know It's Christmas?.
And Lord Nefaryus has a wicked Queen vibe.
Also this. I played that part for my wife and began badly singing "feed the world"
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I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme
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I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme
Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o
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I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme
Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o
And Enigma Machine :lol
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A Life Left Behind keeps wanting to turn into The Spirit Carries On for me.
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I get a Lion King vibe from 3:58ish of Dystopian Overture.
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The vocal melody at the end of Hymn Of A Thousand Voices is sorta like the one in Kaipa's Distant Voices.
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A better life melody seems to heavily reference behind the veil.
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...and although they sound nothing alike stylisticly for some reason Heavens Cove always make me think of Queen's "The Prophet's Song"...which if you haven't heard has the coolest vocal solo section in the middle.
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I think that it was already mentionned at some point by a few people, but Nafaryus theme reminds me of the Inspector Gadget theme
Interesting....cause that's a common comparison with Fatal Tragedy too..... :o
I believe DT themselves referred to the opening bit as the Inspector Gadget riff. I do love a good Inspector Gadget riff. :metal
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The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.
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Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?
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Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?
I was about to say this. The intro was by far my favorite part of OTBOA, so I'm glad they brought that style back.
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The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.
For me this is the major one; it is 95% the same.
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"Heaven's Cove" sounds like "Is There Anybody Out There?" (Pink Floyd)
Also, one of the melodic motifs sounds like "Point of No Return" (Phantom of the Opera).
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Lord Nefaryus-King Herod's Song, JCSuperstar (with a bit of Pilate singing)
YES! King Herod's Song as sung by Pilate, that's exactly what went through my mind this morning when I played the song.
Also, the beginning of A Tempting Offer reminds me a lot of the beginning of Behind the Veil.
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The theme of "Brother Can You Hear Me" theme always reminds me of Cygnus X1 Book II by Rush at the 12:45 mark.
This melody turns into the first verse of Lost Not Forgotten for me.
Am I the only one who hears the intro to On The Backs of Angels every time I hear the beginning of Heaven's Cove?
And yes, definetely this.
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What the hell. This far into the thread and nobody has mentioned yet that
Brother Can You Hear Me = Waiting For The Worms (Pink Floyd)
A Life Left Behind = Tempus Fugit (Yes)
I mean, The Wall and Drama are obviously a huge influence for them for this type of thing.
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They've been mentioned in the other thread buried somewhere. Tempus Fugit multiple times. I very much dislike the whole vibe of Brother Can You Hear Me.
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A New Beginning Intro = Pirates of the Caribean theme
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The Path that Devides have that Symphony X riff somewhere at 2:30 mark iirc.
Heaven's Cove sounds heavily like Headspace when vocals start.
Brother, Can You Hear me theme reminds me somehow Hark The Herald Angels Sing :D
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Some passages which remind me a bit of other songs:
A New Beginning intro = Ayreon
NOMAC tracks = interlude between Panic Attack and Never Enough on Octavarium
Ending instrumental of Begin Again = "Embrace the days" section of BAI, but faster.
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NOMAC tracks = interlude between Panic Attack and Never Enough on Octavarium
Exactly what I thought, is it fan conspiracy time?? Octavarium is a sequel to The Astonishing, where the NOMACS power up again years later and destroy The Great Northern Empire. Then we meet The Dark Master....
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Nobody has mentioned the Billy Jean beat in A New Beginning? I mean, it's a standard 4/4 drum beat, but the moment it kicks in I'm always reminded of Billy Jean.
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Nobody has mentioned the Billy Jean beat in A New Beginning? I mean, it's a standard 4/4 drum beat, but the moment it kicks in I'm always reminded of Billy Jean.
Nomac Jean is not my lover, it's just a drone that thinks that I am the one.....
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There's a riff in Heaven's Cove reminds me of the James Bond theme.
The Answer reminds me of Beneath the Surface (too much)
I'm also getting the themes from the old Incredible Hulk and Buck Rogers TV shows...
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The very beginning of A New Beginning gives me a strong Amorphis vibe.
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Heaven's Cove - Is There Anybody Out There? (Pink Floyd)
Lord Nafaryus - general early Queen vibe
Begin Again - You Raise Me Up
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James' singing on Lord Nafaryus (entire song), the beginning of Three Days, and Nafaryus' parts on A New Beginning are extremely Matt Bellamy esque. Too bad he didn't sing that way on Never Enough :(
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Oh, and the Brother, Can You Hear Me? theme reminds me of the chorus of the Beach Boys' Don't Go Near the Water. ;D ;D
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Brother Can You Hear Me reminds me of Outside The Wall and The Wall in general.
2.05 of The Path That Divides sounds like 2.10 of Scarred.
There were other moments but I can't think of them now
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Oh, and the Brother, Can You Hear Me? theme reminds me of the chorus of the Beach Boys' Don't Go Near the Water. ;D ;D
Whoah, good call :tup
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The intro of A New Beginning reminds me of Cowboys From Hell (Pantera) for some reason.
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"Our New World" has a similar vibe to "The Way It Used To Be."
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On my first few listens to The Gift of Music; "Changing the course of history" sounded like "Now I'm spoiled beyond my wildest dreams"
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The Answer - Disney.
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The piano intro of "The X Aspect" always reminds me of "Monster" by K-Pop group Big Bang :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh-LBREbExs
Intro 12 string part of "Heaven's Cove" and OTBOA.
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Personally, I have heard several sections that, to my ears, actually reference past DT songs/albums. A couple that immediately jump to mind are:
-the intro to Heaven's Cove (On The Backs Of Angels)
-a vocal bit in Moment Of Betrayal (The Great Debate)
-the Arhys/Daryus back and forth in The Path That Divides (similar to verses in This Dying Soul)
- the last minute or so of My Last Farewell (The Ministry of Lost Souls)
- the NOMAC tracks (the transition between Panic Attack and Never Enough)
I don't know if anyone else has heard these or if it's just me, and I'm sure there are more that I can't think of right now, but I think it's kind of cool that they are self-referencing a large chunk of their past. (I mean, I know that they have done this before but I don't think I've heard references to so many different albums in one album before.)
Edit: How could I forget- the into to Dystopian Overture is extremely similar to A Nightmare To Remember.
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The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc
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A Life Left Behind's chorus reminds me a little bit of Resolve by the Foo Fighters.
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A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar
The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.
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Also definitely agree that Brother Can you hear me sounds "The Wall" which is why it's one of my favorite tracks on the album. It also reminds me of Spirit Carries on a bit.
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A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar
Funny thing is, I have never heard a single tune from Jesus Christ Superstar. But when I heard A New Beginning I thought to myself "that's what JCSS must sound like".
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"Bow down to Nafaryus" in Three Days keeps making me think of Fistful of Sand from Redemption
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The riff in Lord Nafaryus about a minute in is almost straight out of the TMOLS instrumental section.
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This part from Dystopian Overture (and A New Beginning) sounds extremely familiar to me:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab (https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab)
Does it sound familiar to anyone else? If so, do you know what it sounds like?
Oh and also I really feel like I've heard the chorus from Three Days before. Anyone has any clue?
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The piano intro to The X Aspect always makes me think of the Lonely Man music from The Incredible Hulk, impossible for me to unhear.
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^ I thought it was a direct reference, it's basically note for note!
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Moment of Betrayal reminds me a lot of the band Redemption
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Three Days (the "He will surrender on his own" part) = Oogie Boogie's Song (Nightmare Before Christmas)
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This isn't a "part" but the feel of the CD reminds me most of Shadow Gallery's Tyranny.
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Dystopian Overture 2:51 / SFAM vibe (Overture 1928?)
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A part of Ravenskill sounds similar to "Band on the Run".
Wings - Band on the Run - https://youtu.be/6uAuSn0EgQs?t=1m48s
Ravenskill - https://youtu.be/8ddtGKtoYtg?t=2m45s
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The first bit of "Chosen" reminds me of "You Needed Me" by Anne Murray.
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I hear paramore's 'the only exception' in a life left behind's verses
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The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc
Whoa. I LOVE that song, but I hadn't even thought of that connection.
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The intro and main keyboard melody in When Your Time Has Come sounds straight out of a Sammy Hagar-era Van Halen song (a good thing in my book)
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The chorus of Our New World - specifically the way James sings "Build a new worrrrrrreerrrrrroooold" reminded me of something...but I couldn't pinpoint just what it was. Then (spoiler) it hit me! Pink Floyds Take It Back. I've listened to them both now, and while they don't really sound that much alike, I'm sticking to my original story.
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The vocal progressions and general vibe of Our New World is unmistakably similar to House of Lords' "Under Blue Skies."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0aEIXXVjhc
Whoa. I LOVE that song, but I hadn't even thought of that connection.
Ha! Interesting. The first three or four times I heard ONW I was like "this sounds like something..." and it was bothering me. Then I realized that was the song. Ironically maybe the only other usage of bagpipes in hard rock/metal that I'm familiar with.
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If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:
I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn
I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purist gold.
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A New Beginning - 4:43
Metropolis - 4:30
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The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.
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Dunno if it was already mentioned somewhere else, but certain parts and vocal lines are strongly reminiscent of Disney songs... the Nafaryus parts especially give off a strong Aladdin/Nightmare Before Christmas vibe, both in melody and delivery.
Also, there's a part in Dystopian Overture with a choir melody that has a sort of Lion King vibe and a drum rhythm that is strongly reminiscent of Overture 1928.
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The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?
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During the verses of ANB, I find myself singing "tell me does this hurt you........said the faceless man....Can you move all of your fingers.......cna you try your best to stand?"
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Begin Again - You Raise Me Up
The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.
I noticed these two immediately. I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't notice the Hemispheres melody in Brother, Can You Hear Me? until people started pointing it out, although I'm a huge Rush fan. :blush
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This part of Dystopian Overture (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5zHZN7ZoGc&t=0m24s) is basically the theme from Luigi's Mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQ43ObPMHQ&t=10s). Noticed that right away and can never not hear it. Pretty sure it's a coincidence although I like the idea that sometime during the writing process, Petrucci went like "Dude, Jordan, remember that rad vocal line from that Luigi game?"
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Heaven's Cove chorus reminds me The Unforgiven III by Metallica
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I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.
The beginning of Heaven's Cove is eerily similar to the second half of Pink Floyd's Is There Anybody Out There? That couldn't be more obvious.
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A New Beginning 2:35-2:48 has a Bohemian Rhapsody vibe to me
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For some reason the ending of Begin Again makes me think of Earthbound/The Mother Series.
Three Days has that Diablo Swing Orchestra feel going.
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Posted this already somewhere in The Astonishong thread but the chorus of Moment of Betrayal reminds me of the "my soul will burn" part of Iron Maiden's The thin line between love and hate.
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Wanted to hear feedback, and it has been great to share and learn others feedback. From this, I will be checking out the feedback of the offerings.
A new one: 'Brother, Can You Hear Me?'.....well, it is a combo of 'In The Name Of God' fadeout (vocal 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic').
and.......how often does one get a chuckle during a DT album? This has a ton. To think, the last time I felt mentally 'UP' during a DT track, was 'Solitary Shelf'...........and who da thunk it was about a topic as depressing as autism/Asberger's/bi-polar/schizophrenia...?
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The middle of X Aspect gives me a "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast" vibe, particularly JR's organ playing. How's that for a random association.
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Wanted to hear feedback, and it has been great to share and learn others feedback. From this, I will be checking out the feedback of the offerings.
A new one: 'Brother, Can You Hear Me?'.....well, it is a combo of 'In The Name Of God' fadeout (vocal 'The Battle Hymn of the Republic').
and.......how often does one get a chuckle during a DT album? This has a ton. To think, the last time I felt mentally 'UP' during a DT track, was 'Solitary Shelf'...........and who da thunk it was about a topic as depressing as autism/Asberger's/bi-polar/schizophrenia...?
Well I think I would've chuckled during Solitary Shelf too. :lol
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The intro to heavens cove reminds me of the song rapture by Jeff loomis
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The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?
Moment of Betrayal verses remind me of The Count of Tuscany verses.
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3:12 in Heaven's Cove reminds me of the James Bond theme
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Listening to Our New World today and it was totally giving me a " You're The Voice " vibe. :biggrin: :metal.
I love both songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2fB7yR_7_4 < - - - If DT ever covered it - it might sound something like this. .
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Parts of TA remind me of her...
And how we could never be together because of her father....
:'( :'( :'(
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The unison around 4:40 In A New Beginning reminds me of the unison in The Count Of Tuscany, anyone else?
Moment of Betrayal verses remind me of The Count of Tuscany verses.
Same Kotow! Both songs
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I'm still digesting this album, but I know for sure I heard some Yes and another song that I couldn't place. Will take some more time to figure it out for myself lol
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Instead of saying what songs, I'll give you the lyrics I can't stop hearing:
"Brother Can You Hear Me?
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand" :huh:
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I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.
Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0
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Heaven's cove intro makes me think of Diablo 2 12 strings theme :) And I love it
Later there is a james bond vibe with chords.
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Lord Nafaryus ... Queen for sure.
Three Days ... the opening vocals sound like Queen, but the rest of the song sounds so much like Savatage from the Poets and Madmen era that I can hear Jon Oliva doing the vocals.
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Lord Nafaryus ... Queen for sure.
James sounds a lot like Matt Bellamy there too.
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A New Beginning sounds straight out of Jesus Christ Superstar
The Opening of Heavens Cove sounds like On the Backs of Angels combined with "Still Lovin You" by the scorpions.
You're right!
A New Beginning - 4:43
Metropolis - 4:30
That one I didn't notice before. Nice!
The ones that remind me of "Metropolis part 1" (at 0:45) are:
- "Ravenskill" (at 2:30)
- "Moment of Betrayal" (at 0:30)
I know it's really a short 'phrase', but they are the exact same notes, over a heavy music background, in E minor. So maybe not much of a coincidence?
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Also: I was in some sort of a "Yes phase" 7 years ago, but mainly their '90s music. Obviously the intro to "A Life Left Behind" sounds a lot like Yes, as many of you have pointed out. I'm particularly reminded of the intros to "Miracle Of Life" & "New Language".
Also, "Moment Of Betrayal" at 3:33 reminds of something from Keys To Ascension, but I can't remember what. Maybe "Mind Drive"?
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The beginning of The Walking Shadow reminds of of a particular Slayer song, but I can't think of it at the moment.
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If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:
I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn
I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purist gold.
It's funny, I hadn't seen this on the thread honestly, but I kept finding that when Brother Can You Hear Me was in my head, it would always turn into that section of Hemispheres. I came back here to see if anyone noticed it too. I guess I'm not alone!
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Our New World - Friends by Joe Satriani
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The Gift of Music - Olympic: Jasná zpráva
(https://youtu.be/iZhLqDh-lVY?t=43)
Begin Again - Abba: The Winner Takes It All
Machine Chatter - Zerg music from Starcraft
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I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.
Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0
:facepalm: I knew someone was going to do that, post the Rush song, even though I have heard it a million times to where I know it like the back of my hand. :lol :lol
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The first time I heard 'The Gift of Music' I was reminded of 'Spirit of the Radio' by Rush, because of the title and some of the tone/pacing of that song. But their influence has never exactly been a secret, so that's quite a boring observation really :)
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This is stupid, but I laugh everytime I see the title "Whispers on the wind" because it reminds me of the movie Clerks, when Randall is reading out all the Porno movie titles (the first movie title is also called Whispers on the wind if you haven't seen the film)... Silly, yes. Juvenile, yes. But that's me... :rollin
My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing... :lol
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My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing... :lol
I never made a connection between either of those things, but being a huge fan of both Journey, and of anything Jimi Jamison (who did the Baywatch theme), I'd have no problem with it. :lol
I can sorta see the Journey comparison, being upbeat melodic rock with the chorus harmonies. DT have drawn inspiration from Journey before, so it's not too crazy a thought.
As I've said before, my first thought for ONW was actually About to Crash, at the 1:52 mark.
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My wife and I also call 'Our New World ' the "Baywatch song", as we feel it's a cross between Journey, and a song they would use in a montage scene in a Baywatch episode... Now, we love both Journey and Baywatch, so this isn't a bad thing... :lol
I never made a connection between either of those things, but being a huge fan of both Journey, and of anything Jimi Jamison (who did the Baywatch theme), I'd have no problem with it. :lol
I can sorta see the Journey comparison, being upbeat melodic rock with the chorus harmonies. DT have drawn inspiration from Journey before, so it's not too crazy a thought.
As I've said before, my first thought for ONW was actually About to Crash, at the 1:52 mark.
Jimi did indeed do the Baywatch theme, we were more of the opinion it's like the 3-4 minute montage scene setting music that appeared in most episodes depending on the story arc... If I'm not mistaken, C.J. (Pammie Anderson) was playing the saxophone on some rocks at one stage... Maybe she was playing 'Another Day'... :rollin ;D
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Jimi did indeed do the Baywatch theme, we were more of the opinion it's like the 3-4 minute montage scene setting music that appeared in most episodes depending on the story arc... If I'm not mistaken, C.J. (Pammie Anderson) was playing the saxophone on some rocks at one stage... Maybe she was playing 'Another Day'... :rollin ;D
Oh, well the only Baywatch episode I've watched in the past 20 years is the one with the WCW wrestlers for the sake of the hilarious badness, so I can't relate to that. I only know the theme, because it's Jimi Jamison. :lol And the incredibad outro theme sung by the Hoff himself.
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I've been listening to Rush's Hemispheres for nearly 25 years, and I still have no idea what some of you are talking about in regards to a melody from it being on this record.
Check this at 12.44 mark and it will surely take you less than 25 years to notice what we are talking about :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uXCfDRddC0
:facepalm: I knew someone was going to do that, post the Rush song, even though I have heard it a million times to where I know it like the back of my hand. :lol :lol
Sorry mate...your joke was such a great one to the extent that I missed it... it is either me or you should be using the green color more often :biggrin:
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Brother, Can You Hear Me? has a certain Pink Floyd flavor in the intro and the flow of the melody.
The first minute of A Life Left Behind feels a lot like Spock's Beard to me.
The piano intro and a few melodies of Ravenskill gave me To The Moon (computer game) flashbacks.
The acoustic guitars in Heaven's Cove were like Queensr˙che meet On The Backs Of Angels, the synth/piano melody twists a little later just scream Ayreon.
Greetings...
Nef
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The piano intro to The X Aspect always makes me think of the Lonely Man music from The Incredible Hulk, impossible for me to unhear.
Had to have my husband listen to it and tell me what it was. I recognized it instantly, but couldn't place it!
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Heaven's Cove reminds me of Diablo 1/Diablo II Tristram music.
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There is a section in A New Beginning, a short solo before the middle piano section ("Not long ago..") which has a big Queen vibe.
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Descent of the NOMACS - The Reapers from Mass Effect (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVoU30ixHrM)
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I'm very surprised that no-one has mentioned 3:22 in Moment of Betrayal and 1:04 in The Enemy Inside.
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I'm not.
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I'm not.
:lol
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It's the same rhythm, no?
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It's the same rhythm, no?
Yes, along with other maybe 30 DT songs :biggrin:
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The first part of it is the exact same rhythm, all on the snare. It immediately jumped out at me, maybe I'm the only one :lol
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This may already have been mentioned, in A Life Left Behind, the verse that ends " And Somehow I'll find you"
It sounds exactly like something by some other American AOR band, I cant quite place it - is it Boston?
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The whole thing reminds of Disney's Beauty and the Beast...
Specifically, as mentioned elsewhere, I hear the theme from Rush's 2112 Oracle: The Dream in Dystopian Overture.
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The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever. You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song.
And yes....uh...I have done the above...but I have little daughters so it's not weird, right? ;)
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When I got to around :41 in 2285 Entr'acte, it reminded me of the line around :21 in War Inside My Head.
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There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"
Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part? :-\
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Didnt know where else to post this - every topic is about the new album :lol
but - the piano fadeout in "The Answer Lies Within" from Octavarium makes me think of Murph's theme from Interstellar.
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There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"
Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part? :-\
The "you are acting very strange" is apparantly like "anarchistic moral vision" or "life to save life". It's a bit of a stretch IMO.
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Heavens cove towards the end reminds me of the James Bond music.
Our new world reminds me of House of Lords' Under Blue Skies
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1:33 The Walking Shadow = Mega Man :lol
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Heaven's Cove intro=intro to Suite Madam Blue by Styx.
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The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever. You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song.
And yes....uh...I have done the above...but I have little daughters so it's not weird, right? ;)
Even if you didn't, nothing wrong with that. They are both great movies.
Instead of saying what songs, I'll give you the lyrics I can't stop hearing:
"Brother Can You Hear Me?
I am just a man
Known across the desert
Beyond the shadows in the sand" :huh:
Ha! Totally. I knew I couldn't have been the only one.
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Heaven's Cove intro=intro to Suite Madam Blue by Styx.
Ding! I forgot to include that in my original post.
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The Answer.....is the most Disney song ever. You can totally sing "I can go the Distance" from Hercules, and "Do You Want to build a Snow Man" from Frozen to the song.
Begin Again is way more Disney.
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I'm super surprised this one hasn't been discussed yet
3:43 of Moment Of Betrayal
is basically the same as:
8:04 of On The Backs Of Angels
To the untrained ear the differences are very subtle. the only obvious difference is the faster tempo of MOB.
Another one that was mentioned elsewhere but not in this thread is during the solo of When Your Time Has Come quotes a phrase from The Spirit Carries On solo
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The first two minutes of 'A New Beginning'.....'Simon Zealotes / Poor Jerusalem',...yet again, from JC Superstar.
Christ, you know I love you
Did you see I waved?
I believe in you and God
So tell me that I'm saved
Repeat
Jesus, I am with you
Touch me! Touch me Jesus!
Jesus, I am on your side
Kiss me! Kiss me Jesus!
*****
Father, I implore you
Don't believe a word
He is not the enemy
That is just absurd
You may see his talent
As some kind of threat
But I knew we were meant to be
From the day we met
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If you recognise these Rush lyrics you may recognise a very similar recurring melody in The Astonishing:
I have memory and awareness
But I have no shape or form
As a disembodied spirit
I am dead and yet unborn
I have passed into Olympus
As was told in tales of old
To the city of immortals
Marble white and purest gold.
Ok...I'll admit it. The only reason I'm in this thread is to see if this was in here.
Carry on.
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The entire album reminds me of past works.
of course:
The Wall....
But also,
All the best classic songs to gratefully embrace humanity.
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The first two minutes of 'A New Beginning'.....'Simon Zealotes / Poor Jerusalem',...yet again, from JC Superstar.
Christ, you know I love you
Did you see I waved?
I believe in you and God
So tell me that I'm saved
Repeat
Jesus, I am with you
Touch me! Touch me Jesus!
Jesus, I am on your side
Kiss me! Kiss me Jesus!
*****
Father, I implore you
Don't believe a word
He is not the enemy
That is just absurd
You may see his talent
As some kind of threat
But I knew we were meant to be
From the day we met
This is gold. :lol It's so similar.
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This part from Dystopian Overture (and A New Beginning) sounds extremely familiar to me:
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab (https://vocaroo.com/i/s0WnqDoo2Pab)
Does it sound familiar to anyone else? If so, do you know what it sounds like?
I think this sounds like the chorus to Pain of Salvation's 'America'.
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Not sure if mentioned, but Dystopian Overture beginning riff reminds me of ANTR.
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The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.
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The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.
Oh yeah. The ending of "Hymn Of 1000 Voices" also feels similar to "Silent Night" - there are some identical melodies there.
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The end of Begin Again gives me a total Christmas feeling.
It's totally Christmas. It's very off putting. :lol
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For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days. On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.
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Heaven's cove piano+keyboard following same notes has a sound (not the notes) that recall Genesis in the mid period just after Gabriel (hep!) went, namely Mad Man Moon or One for the Vine - hence all references to the "chosen one" like in that song? Mmmmhhhhh... :justjen
And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.
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Loads of vocal melodies do a descending minor pentatonic triad at the end of lines.
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For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days. On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.
It sounds more like Juular to me than Sumeria.
And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.
Nah. Similar shape though.
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For some reason I get a really strong Devin Townsend (from the album Deconstruction) vibe from 3:34-3:41 in Three Days. On close inspection there are some really big differences, so it could just be that I'm having a weird reaction to that section. But I'd be lying if I said that I've never swapped out my DT disc for Devin's song Sumeria in a fit of musical inspiration immediately after listening to that section of Three Days.
It sounds more like Juular to me than Sumeria.
And "changing the course of history" is "though you may stand upon my grave" note by note.
Nah. Similar shape though.
Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA. It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y. It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
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Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA. It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y. It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".
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Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA. It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y. It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".
Ah, cool!
It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.
As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!
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Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA. It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y. It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".
Ah, cool!
It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.
As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!
Myrath are amazing. Maybe even better than DT on an album-by-album basis.
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Fair enough, I totally hear where you're coming from. And you may be right that Juular is closer. In any case, I have on several occasions switched over to Deconstruction when I've hit this point while listening to The Astonishing. And I don't necessarily mean this to be a knock against TA. It's kind of cool when listening to something on album X can inspire you to shut it off (no matter how awesome it is) and switch over to album Y. It's neat to tease out these commonalities between my favorite bands.
I didn't get the impression that you were knocking the album at all. It's kind of like if I were to listen to Lost Not Forgotten then go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Myrath" or listen to Never Enough and go "ok, I'm now going to listen to Muse".
Ah, cool!
It seems to me that there's a bit of a difference between the Muse/DT connections in that it's fairly obvious that DT were directly influenced by Muse in the case of Never Enough, and yet the section in TA that I referred to could have been come up with by DT independent of them ever hearing Devin. And that's part of why I find it so cool.
As an aside: I've never listened to Myrath before, so I'm going to check them out now. Thanks!
Myrath are amazing. Maybe even better than DT on an album-by-album basis.
I just listened to "Tales of the Sand," and really enjoyed it! I can see the similarities between some of the songs (especially Sour Sigh) and DT. Thanks for the heads-up! (And apologies if I derailed the thread.)
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I just listened to "Tales of the Sand," and really enjoyed it! I can see the similarities between some of the songs (especially Sour Sigh) and DT. Thanks for the heads-up! (And apologies if I derailed the thread.)
We have a Myrath thread here if you want to talk more about the band: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=20591.35
To get back to the thread's topic, Ravenskill in general kind of reminds me of modern Fates Warning. Just a vibe I get.
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I'm bit lazy to check if this one was suggested before, but to me the guitar riff intro of "a new beggining" is very similar to the guitar riff intro of "Kiss - Uh! all night" :omg: :biggrin: Just crazy...
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Also, many, many moments of the album remind me of Theocracy's song The Gift of Music, though, funnily enough, not The Gift of Music itself ;D
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The piano riff near the start of The X Aspect is a near carbon copy of the part about 10 seconds into Horizons by Genesis. Anyone else noticed this?
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The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.
Probably you're thinking of JLB's Oblivion (https://youtu.be/RHMGdQGVqMw?t=57)?.. That was one of the first similarities I could find from TA...
Also, the vocal melody at the start always reminds me of the one in Haken's The Point of No Return (https://youtu.be/Xt03KJw2IAU?t=109)..
There's a big comment thread on Moment of Betrayal video saying that 1:22 sounds like "The Great Debate"
Am I deaf or can I not figure out which part? :-\
Actually, the first similar phrase/melody I've notice was precisely that one.. It's actually 1:31, "Brother give me strength..." (right before chorus) from MoB and 4:44 "In a labyrinth of rules..." (right before chorus) from TGD..
Another one from Moment of Betrayal: the main melody is almost the same as Men of Honor (the song) by Adrenaline Mob (https://youtu.be/c1sEVDRLloQ?t=12)'s main melody..
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The Path That Divides = U2 + Scarred + I think the bit from 2:30 onwards reminds me of something but I can't quite pinpoint it.
Probably you're thinking of JLB's Oblivion (https://youtu.be/RHMGdQGVqMw?t=57)?.. That was one of the first similarities I could find from TA...
I think I probably am! Same rhythm and distorted JLB vocals.
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Found another one:
Lord Nafaryus - Riff at 1:08..
The Ministry of Lost Souls - Riff at 8:34..
LN's is slower, but they're pretty much the same notes and/or have the same vibe..
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Also, somebody must have already posted this, but the Act of Faythe intro reminds me of Morricone (Deborah's Theme, maybe?) and/or "Albinoni’s" Adagio in G Minor.