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Title: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: Metro on January 29, 2016, 07:15:41 AM
So most of us are still processing The Astonishing in all it's glory. I myself have only listened to the whole thing once so far and it got me thinking.
This tour they're going to play the whole thing in it's entirety. But a year or two from now, after the Age of The Astonishing is over and we start to look forward to DT14, what songs from TA can we expect to remain in rotation in live setlists? The Gift of Music is an obvious choice, but what else?
I know JP has said he's not a fan of Medleys, but that might not be a bad idea with an album like this with so much content.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: Shadow2222 on January 29, 2016, 07:30:37 AM
Like you mentioned, I think The Gift of Music is definitely one, and also Moment of Betrayal, Chosen, Three Days, and Our New World.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: phospheneSOI on January 29, 2016, 12:51:00 PM
I'm not sure what they will play, but what I'd like to hear as part of a normal set-list is quite similar to what Shadow222 suggested:

The Gift Of Music
Lord Nafaryus
Three Days
Moment of Betrayal
Our New World

Those 5 seem like really solid stand-alone pieces that would work well live.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 29, 2016, 03:04:31 PM
It would be nice if they made a concise 'The Astonishing' medley for future tours.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: Pragmaticcircus on January 29, 2016, 03:27:15 PM
The only one you missed was A New Beginning  :metal

Bring the latter and ANB back DT!
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Post by: Nomaniac on January 29, 2016, 03:29:34 PM
It would be nice if they made a concise 'The Astonishing' medley for future tours.

That would be awesome! Like the whole story made into a 15 minute song? They should release a studio version as well ;)
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: 54_diplomats on January 29, 2016, 03:29:48 PM
Only listened through it once so far but right now I'd say for sure:

The Gift of Music
A New Beginning
Moment of Betrayal
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: The Presence of Frenemies on January 29, 2016, 03:57:44 PM
It would be nice if they made a concise 'The Astonishing' medley for future tours.

Immediately followed by a capella JP singing his song about hating medleys from the 5YIALT commentary.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: ErHaO on January 29, 2016, 04:11:17 PM
Well, I can see them doing a smaller The Astonishing suite on later tours, similar to what they did with SFAM last tour. That was not a medley, but in a live setting it deed feel like getting an abridged version of the album (partially because the songs have recurring themes).

But yeah, I agree with what most people are saying:
The Gift of Music
Moment of Betrayal
Lord Nafaryus
Three Days
Our New World
A New Beginning
A Life Left Behind
Also, I think both overtures can work well in a small The Astonishing set.

In a regular concert, I would love to see them play lord Nafaryus and Three Days back to back, maybe with a small NOMAC tune in between and one of the overtures at the start (example: 2285 Entr'acte, Lord Nafaryus, The Hovering Sojourn, Three Days).

Also, extended jazz-section for Three Days, please.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: splent on January 29, 2016, 04:12:55 PM
A new beginning.

 I have to listen to it again and you're to think of any other ones
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Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2016, 04:30:59 PM
They should play A Saviour In The Square into Our New World.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: DragonAttack on January 29, 2016, 05:01:33 PM
Good topic...but I need more than one listen,  to what in the old days would be a 'triple' or 'quadruple' album. 

What FII tracks will they do to 'celebrate' its 20th anniversary next year? ;)
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: chaossystem on January 29, 2016, 07:19:12 PM
Depending on how many more albums and tours they have left in them, I think they will probably rotate as many songs  from The Astonishing as they can in the future. But maybe they will play at least three or four songs from it on the follow-up tour, or the one after.

As for next year being the 20th anniversary of FII...it will also be the 25th for I&W, the 15th for 6DoiT, and the 10th for SC. Maybe they'll do a tour where they play two or three songs from each of those albums, at least one or two each from ADToE and DT12, and then fill the rest of the time with music from The Astonishing.

Also, I'm wondering if the "Astonishing Live" show is going to be JUST the album, which means not more than about 2 hrs. & 20 min., or if they are going to pad it out with some solos and/or other songs, or if they're going to have an OPENING act. MY guess would be a 15-20 minute (or longer) encore of at least a couple of older songs, or maybe something like ACoS, 8VM, TCoT, or IL
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: DragonGuitar on January 30, 2016, 02:06:23 AM
The Gift of Music
Lord Nafaryus
Three Days
A New Beginning
Moment of Betrayal
Our New World

Basically the more high energy of the stand out/most popular songs, that will translate into the best live performances.
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Post by: erwinrafael on January 30, 2016, 02:09:01 AM
Our New World, definitely. Dream Theater may have found their short anthem.
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Post by: porcacultor on January 30, 2016, 07:29:11 AM
I really wish they play A Tempting Offer again. It's just so creepy!

I'm sure Our New World will appear in regular setlists. I like Kotowboy's idea of having Savior in the Square segue into it.
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Post by: SebastianPratesi on February 08, 2016, 10:29:30 AM
Well, one of my favourite songs from the album is "Heaven's Cove". The song refers to an important event in the story, but it doesn't refer to any character, so I guess it somehow could fit between other albums' songs. Maybe?
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: Luoto on February 09, 2016, 09:01:40 AM
A New Beginning is quite certain, but I think they will medley the hell out of The Astonishing, or do an album insert of it like in recent shows (Awake, SFAM). One interesting example would be The Answer / Savior / When Your Time Has Come / Begin Again, followed by Our New World.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: As I Am on February 09, 2016, 11:11:25 AM
Honestly only about 5 songs have a chance to remain in future set lists as stand alone tracks at various time:
The Gift of Music
A New Beginning
Moment of Betrayal
Losing Faythe
&
Our New World

I can't see any of the others as stand alone concert appearances.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on February 16, 2016, 12:48:34 PM
I can see A Savior In The Square/When Your Time Has Come being a common one in future sets much like War/Test.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: metrojam on February 16, 2016, 01:00:42 PM
Honestly only about 5 songs have a chance to remain in future set lists as stand alone tracks at various time:
The Gift of Music
A New Beginning
Moment of Betrayal
Losing Faythe
&
Our New World

I can't see any of the others as stand alone concert appearances.

Spot on, nothing else (with the possible exception of "Three Days") is anywhere near strong enough to be played live when not in the context of the complete thing.
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Post by: MirrorMask on February 16, 2016, 01:11:03 PM
Chosen works as a standalone lighters-in-the-air ballad.
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Post by: bosk1 on February 16, 2016, 01:13:17 PM
Pretty much any of the non-instrumental tracks could work, musically.  Lyrically, not so much.  But that has never stopped them from including songs in the past. 
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 16, 2016, 01:52:52 PM
I can't believe none of you have mentioned The Path That Divides.  That song is awesome and would be right at home in almost any DT set.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: chaossystem on February 27, 2016, 11:06:24 PM
Earlier tonight I was listening to a DT playlist that I put together which included the first few Astonishing songs, and the one one that really struck a cord with me was When Your Time Has Come. I think it would play well as a "stand alone," at least close to as much as TGoM probably will.
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: Adami on February 27, 2016, 11:09:09 PM
It would be nice if they made a concise 'The Astonishing' medley for future tours.

Since they play to click/backing tracks now, I doubt we'll ever see a medley again. That would take a considerable amount of time in a studio preparing a click track to.

Not impossible. Far from it, but I doubt they're interested in doing that kind of work for it.
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 27, 2016, 11:15:36 PM
True. Also, I remember JP stating more than once that he hates medleys.  :lol
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: JiM-Xtreme on February 28, 2016, 03:24:33 AM
The Gift of Music
When Your Time Has Come (with Savior in the Square intro)
Three Days
A Life Left Behind
A New Beginning
Moment of Betrayal
Heaven's Cove (I actually think this could be a great act-opener)
The Path That Divides
Our New World
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: chaossystem on February 28, 2016, 11:45:18 PM
One thing I would like to see them do is take A New Beginning and The Road to Revolution and do something similar to what they did with Beyond This Life on the Train of Thought tour: first extend the instrumental jam at the end of ANB by at LEAST 3-5 minutes, and have it bridge straight into TRtR without pause, then extend the outro of TRtR by at least a minute or two.

I also think that Moment of Betrayal would make a good stand-alone. It has a real shout-along chorus.
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Post by: RoadTrain_of Thought on February 29, 2016, 11:13:57 AM
The Gift of Music
Moment of Betrayal
Lord Nafaryus
The X Aspect
The Path That Divides
The Walking Shadow/My Last Farewell
Title: Re: Which Songs Will Remain in Future Setlists?
Post by: nattmorker on February 29, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Other than the NOMAC tracks I think all the songs would work really well as stand alone tracks. When I listen music on shuffle I've listened to the majority of the TA as stand alone songs and it's works nice.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on February 29, 2016, 03:26:07 PM
I could see When Your Time Has Come being the new TSCO.
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Post by: Enigmachine on February 29, 2016, 03:31:11 PM
I could see When Your Time Has Come being the new TSCO.

Definitely. It's got lyrics that could work outside of the album and the chorus is catchy as hell. I'd like ASitS to precede it though, it works well as a bombastic intro. AlternativelyThey could rework it to remove the Faythe part and add another chorus so it is removed from the story completely and add the musical transition from the end of ASitS so it has a decent intro.