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Title: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: aurorablind on May 04, 2009, 05:52:50 PM
I know im probably a bit late, but i didn't see a thread about this album on the new forum..
I can't believe how awsome this album is! I've never really been into Mastodon, but this album totally blew me away!
It's about to become one of my favorite albums of all time!
Appreciate!  :metal
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ZBomber on May 04, 2009, 05:54:47 PM
This album is great. I'm going to see them Thursday and I guess they play the whole thing live. Can't wait!
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Post by: In The Wake Of Poseidon on May 04, 2009, 05:58:16 PM
Has nothing on Blood Mountain, but still a very good album.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: PixelDream on May 05, 2009, 07:00:00 PM
One of the best albums I've heard in a long time. Everything about it is right. The album cover fits the colorful music perfectly. Mastodon have outdone themselves big time. A very important album for the 00's, and important for the future of concept albums.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gwii on May 05, 2009, 09:16:39 PM
This album is great. I'm going to see them Thursday and I guess they play the whole thing live. Can't wait!

i saw them last saturday and it was incredible!  i made a review thread about it if you want to check it out (semi spoiler: i posted the set list, not sure if it will be the same set when you see them)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: zerogravityfat on October 21, 2010, 10:22:50 AM
So I got songs from this album circulating in my Pandora, and now I'm hooked. Gotta go get it today, so awesome.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 21, 2010, 10:23:28 AM
Necro thread, but hey. I think it was my album of 2009 :metal
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Sigz on October 21, 2010, 10:24:35 AM
Good album, but Leviathan is the best them.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 21, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
lolno
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ZBomber on October 21, 2010, 10:30:55 AM
Necro thread, but hey. I think it was my album of 2009 :metal

Same, my friend and I listen to it everytime we go out for a smoke. Its easily my favorite album from 2009.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 21, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Listening to it RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Samsara on October 21, 2010, 10:43:38 AM
Love this record. Bought it after all the chatter about it, and really was glad I did. My wife got hooked on it too.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Zantera on October 21, 2010, 10:51:44 AM
It's good, but i prefer Blood Mountain and Leviathan.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
Boring and stale riffs completely devoid of any emotion whatsoever combined with some of the most lifeless vocals ever. Definitely most overrated album of 2009. So no, I don't like it. But whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 11:02:39 AM
How is that post even possible.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Sigz on October 21, 2010, 11:06:33 AM
How is that post even possible.



Boring and stale riffs completely devoid of any emotion whatsoever combined with some of the most lifeless vocals ever. Definitely most overrated album of 2009. So no, I don't like it. But whatever floats your boat.

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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 11:08:26 AM
Oh gosh, I feel so silly now. That accounts for it!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gorille85 on October 21, 2010, 11:11:59 AM
Crack the Skye is good stuff. And I like good stuff.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 11:12:22 AM
How is that post even possible.



Boring and stale riffs completely devoid of any emotion whatsoever combined with some of the most lifeless vocals ever. Definitely most overrated album of 2009. So no, I don't like it. But whatever floats your boat.

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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Sigz on October 21, 2010, 11:18:12 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 11:27:53 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gorille85 on October 21, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: MykeHavoc on October 21, 2010, 12:17:42 PM
What is going on :lol

As for the album? Love it. The title track came on my player as I scrolled by the thread,
so I figured I'd drop by and spread some love. One of the best records on the last decade for sure.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Fuzzboy on October 21, 2010, 12:27:03 PM
One of the best albums of 09, along with Blue Record
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on October 21, 2010, 12:30:31 PM
So I got songs from this album circulating in my Pandora, and now I'm hooked. Gotta go get it today, so awesome.

Good man.  Crack the Skye has become one of my favorite albums ever since I bought it.  Absolute perfect album.

EDIT: wow, I tried to post this and got ninja'd by someone, but didn't know because after I hit post I immediately left my computer to go to class.  Then I saw that, as usual, Seventh Son fails completely in being able to identify a masterpiece when he hears one. 
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 12:42:49 PM
So I got songs from this album circulating in my Pandora, and now I'm hooked. Gotta go get it today, so awesome.

Good man.  Crack the Skye has become one of my favorite albums ever since I bought it.  Absolute perfect album.

EDIT: wow, I tried to post this and got ninja'd by someone, but didn't know because after I hit post I immediately left my computer to go to class.  Then I saw that, as usual, Seventh Son fails completely in being able to identify a masterpiece when he hears one. 
I didn't know boring, tame and dull riffs made a masterpiece. Shouldn't be too hard to make one in that case.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 12:44:26 PM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 12:49:35 PM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ZBomber on October 21, 2010, 12:51:11 PM
What am I even watching right now.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: zerogravityfat on October 21, 2010, 01:19:20 PM
you're all welcome for the shit storm i unleashed from the dead, hey i took my time what can i say.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on October 21, 2010, 02:10:26 PM
So I got songs from this album circulating in my Pandora, and now I'm hooked. Gotta go get it today, so awesome.

Good man.  Crack the Skye has become one of my favorite albums ever since I bought it.  Absolute perfect album.

EDIT: wow, I tried to post this and got ninja'd by someone, but didn't know because after I hit post I immediately left my computer to go to class.  Then I saw that, as usual, Seventh Son fails completely in being able to identify a masterpiece when he hears one. 
I didn't know boring, tame and dull riffs made a masterpiece. Shouldn't be too hard to make one in that case.

I really don't see how the riffs match any of those descriptions.  I can understand not liking the vocals.  But man, those riffs are so creative, groovy, heavy, and unadulterated awesome.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
So I got songs from this album circulating in my Pandora, and now I'm hooked. Gotta go get it today, so awesome.

Good man.  Crack the Skye has become one of my favorite albums ever since I bought it.  Absolute perfect album.

EDIT: wow, I tried to post this and got ninja'd by someone, but didn't know because after I hit post I immediately left my computer to go to class.  Then I saw that, as usual, Seventh Son fails completely in being able to identify a masterpiece when he hears one. 
I didn't know boring, tame and dull riffs made a masterpiece. Shouldn't be too hard to make one in that case.

I really don't see how the riffs match any of those descriptions.  I can understand not liking the vocals.  But man, those riffs are so creative, groovy, heavy, and unadulterated awesome.

They're certainly heavy, but that's where the agreements end. A lot of bands have heavy riffs, doesn't stop them from sucking (Just ask Pantera :p ). Creative?  :lol To me it sounds like they came up with them in 5 minutes and threw them into the studio and said "done". Groovy? Eh, I guess but they don't really make me want to groove. All they do is make me reach for my pillow. Unadulterated awesome? Sorry but  :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on October 21, 2010, 03:19:14 PM
Yeah, they definitely came up with all those riffs in just five minutes and threw them together with no thought to composition at all.  That is totally what happened in all those months of work.

Listening to the album again.  "The Last Baron" at 8:19 continues to floor me.  I might make a list of all my favorite moments on this album if I get any more outraged or bored.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 03:25:27 PM
Yeah, they definitely came up with all those riffs in just five minutes.  That is totally what happened in all those months of work. 

Listening to the album again.  "The Last Baron" at 8:19 continues to floor me. 
Because we all know that there is no such thing as hyperbole.

Good that if floors you. It does that to me too! So drowzy I hit the floor.....
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 21, 2010, 03:40:15 PM
To me it sounds like they came up with them in 5 minutes and threw them into the studio and said "done".

That's applicable to early Mastodon but definitely not CTS. You just bein' straight up retarded, son. What kind of riffs do you even consider creative (from any band)? The ones from CTS were some of the only riffs of any band's album in recent memory that I actually remembered and liked.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 03:40:42 PM
Easily Mastodon's weakest album.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 03:54:03 PM
To me it sounds like they came up with them in 5 minutes and threw them into the studio and said "done".

That's applicable to early Mastodon but definitely not CTS. You just bein' straight up retarded, son. What kind of riffs do you even consider creative (from any band)? The ones from CTS were some of the only riffs of any band's album in recent memory that I actually remembered and liked.
"Creative" can be anything really, just something that sounds fresh, full of life, charisma and energy to me. That's what I look for most in music and I tend to think that's what my tastes reflect.

If you want examples....

Candlemass - Solitude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Spu7FWs8ik

Wait for DAT RIFF at :41 to kick in. I love the ever loving fuck out of that riff and its definitely one of my favorites ever. So much color, so much energy, so much life in that one simple riff, none of which I got from anything from Crack the Skye.

The Lord Weird Slough Feg - The Spinward Marches/High Passage/Low Passage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LORTX3Yot2k

This is technically two songs but I listen to it as a single piece all the time. The main riff of The Spinward Marches has just an enormous "in your face" kind of charisma to it.

At High Passage/Low Passage, the thumping bassline adding to the main riff just sends me into musical oblivion. There's something so insanely catchy about it, and the production lets the energy of the song really shine (And the fact that Mike Scalzi's vocals are absolutely godlike doesn't hurt anything either).

I have other examples if you want.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 21, 2010, 03:58:02 PM
I'm getting the feeling the lack of pure sludge riffs on CTS kills it for you, which is understandable.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 04:00:36 PM
I'm getting the feeling the lack of pure sludge riffs on CTS kills it for you, which is understandable.
It definitely hurts it, but I wouldn't mind it if the riffs present on CtS were interesting. They aren't to me, not in the slightest. I definitely understand the appeal of them, but it just sends me to sleep  :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 04:03:43 PM
I totally agree with you Seventh Son.  I'm a HUGE Mastodon fan.  Lifesblood/Call of the Mastodon, Remission, Leviathan and Blood Mountain I wore all of those out, amazing, amazing music.  Then Crack the Skye came out and I fucking puked on the spot.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 21, 2010, 04:22:43 PM
LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 04:26:48 PM
LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.

Candlemass are one of the best doom metal bands ever.  They have some of the best riffs since Sabbath, and have influenced a lot of newer bands these days.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.
So damn unimpressed son.
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 21, 2010, 04:34:31 PM
LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.

Candlemass are one of the best doom metal bands ever.  They have some of the best riffs since Sabbath, and have influenced a lot of newer bands these days.
I never said anything about the band, I'm talking about those 2 riffs that are "OMGZ AWESOME", they are  not bad but I don't see how those 2 are "better".

LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.
So damn unimpressed son.
(https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/snothair/snothair/self/sodamnunimpressed.jpg)
Same with those 2 riffs.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 04:37:36 PM
THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 04:40:06 PM
LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.

Candlemass are one of the best doom metal bands ever.  They have some of the best riffs since Sabbath, and have influenced a lot of newer bands these days.
I never said anything about the band, I'm talking about those 2 riffs that are "OMGZ AWESOME", they are  not bad but I don't see how those 2 are "better".

LOL  Seventh Son
None of those 2 riffs sound better than most of Crack The Skye, the Riffs are indeed, lifeless, but still have an awesome groove and melodies.
So damn unimpressed son.
(https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/snothair/snothair/self/sodamnunimpressed.jpg)
Same with those 2 riffs.
The 2 riffs are just full of everything that makes metal so enjoyable to me. So much charisma, life and energy in them. The riffs on Crack the Skye had none of that. They're better because when I hear a riff I want it to be epic, meaty and full of so much life, to have a character of its own. I don't get that on Crack the Skye at all.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 21, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.
Yeah that's true, but the album has a couple of awesome riff too.

And thats why I said:
the Riffs are indeed, lifeless
And then:
but still have an awesome groove and melodies.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 21, 2010, 04:44:01 PM
THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.

I dunno. There's a ton of lackluster shit on their other albums. Nothing that really makes me want to revisit those albums at least outside of a few tracks.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 04:45:45 PM
THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.
Yeah that's true, but the album has a couple of awesome riff too.

And thats why I said:
the Riffs are indeed, lifeless
And then:
but still have an awesome groove and melodies.

That's just it, groove or no groove I just can't get into riffs that are lifeless. They just completely drone their way through the whole album, lacking any kind of bombast that I crave from metal riffing.

THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.

I dunno. There's a ton of lackluster shit on their other albums. Nothing that really makes me want to revisit those albums at least outside of a few tracks.
Eh, the early stuff is decent but I don't cream myself over it. There's better sludge to be found elsewhere.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on October 21, 2010, 04:46:57 PM
The riffs in Crack the Skye are super creative.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 04:48:40 PM
THe riffs on Crack the Skye are really nothing special at all, weakest riffs from their catalog.

I dunno. There's a ton of lackluster shit on their other albums. Nothing that really makes me want to revisit those albums at least outside of a few tracks.

Man, I know their other albums inside and out, IMO they had run out of riffs on CTS, all the other albums had tremdous riffs.

Mother Puncher
Iron Tusk
Blood and Thunder
Crystal Skull
Hunters of the Sky
March of the Fire Ants
Burning Man
Crusher Destroyer
Seabeast
Hail to Fire
Shadows That Move

I could go on.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 21, 2010, 04:50:49 PM
The opening riff to Naked Burn is awesome too but the one that comes right after I just can't help but feel underwhelmed. I'll have to check out those songs again aside from Blood and Thunder which I already know is bitchin'.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 04:54:28 PM
The opening riff to Naked Burn is awesome too but the one that comes right after I just can't help but feel underwhelmed. I'll have to check out those songs again aside from Blood and Thunder which I already know is bitchin'.
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Post by: toro on October 21, 2010, 04:54:56 PM
 :rollin
I love that comic.
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 05:01:39 PM
That looks awesome, have you got a bigger one, I can't read it, my eyes are shot.
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Post by: orcus116 on October 21, 2010, 05:02:01 PM
Right-click, open in new tab/window.
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Post by: wolfking on October 21, 2010, 05:10:07 PM
That didn't work for me, but I just saved the picture and enlarged it.  That was fucking amazing!!  :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on October 21, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
DAT riff in Megalodon might be my favorite Mastodon riff ever.  You know the one.  Its the one that rips your face off and wears it as a loincloth.

@Seventh Son.  Just listened to those two songs.  You REALLY found that Candlemass riff more interesting, creative, and filled with more "life" than anything on Crack the Skye?  Yeah its doomy and stuff, but I'm pretty sure I came up with a similar riff just dicking around on bass once.  Thank god the WLSF got interesting around 2:20 or else I would've just stopped listening.  Maybe, like Orcus said, you're not big on the more psychedelic/prog direction on CTS and want more sludge. 

One point against CTS I'm just not getting is the accusation that the riffs are "lifeless."  Those riffs in CTS make me want to move, whether I'm headbanging or just bobbing my head with the groove.  I don't know how a "lifeless" riff could make me do that.

And I also agree with Orcus about other albums having lackluster songs.  Blood Mountain sorta dives in quality near the end, and I'm not big on Remission at all.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 06:28:14 PM
DAT riff in Megalodon might be my favorite Mastodon riff ever.  You know the one.  Its the one that rips your face off and wears it as a loincloth.

@Seventh Son.  Just listened to those two songs.  You REALLY found that Candlemass riff more interesting, creative, and filled with more "life" than anything on Crack the Skye?  Yeah its doomy and stuff, but I'm pretty sure I came up with a similar riff just dicking around on bass once.  Thank god the WLSF got interesting around 2:20 or else I would've just stopped listening.  Maybe, like Orcus said, you're not big on the more psychedelic/prog direction on CTS and want more sludge. 

One point against CTS I'm just not getting is the accusation that the riffs are "lifeless."  Those riffs in CTS make me want to move, whether I'm headbanging or just bobbing my head with the groove.  I don't know how a "lifeless" riff could make me do that.

And I also agree with Orcus about other albums having lackluster songs.  Blood Mountain sorta dives in quality near the end, and I'm not big on Remission at all.
Yes. I like doomy riffs though *Shrug*
It doesn't matter to me if a riff is something simplistic that anyone can come up with or a technical behemoth, as long as it sounds good. I don't mind most psychedelic stuff for the most part, but I just don't think it goes well with metal at all.

As for the riffs being lifeless, I'll put it this way: When a riff is full of life, it makes my head want to explode. It just makes me sit back and go "holy shit, is that riff really real?" The kind of riff that just eschews awesomeness and masculinity and makes you headbang like no tomorrow. With Crack the Skye, the riffs are just.... "there". They don't do anything. There's no direction, they just exist. Nothing more.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gorille85 on October 21, 2010, 07:01:16 PM
The riffs in CtS are really good IMO. I don't see what it so uncreative about them...maybe it's because their not overly complex but I don't think that makes them bad by any mean.

And speaking about riffs, my favorite ever is probably this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbSUEbG3OVE (starting at 5:20-ish)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 21, 2010, 07:31:03 PM
Bleh, I guess it boils down to the fact I prefer rawer and more aggressive music (Although I don't mind non-aggressive styles, I just have to be in a "very" particular mood for it).
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 21, 2010, 08:38:04 PM
A more accurate assessment would be that you just don't like good music.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: setrataeso on October 21, 2010, 08:53:43 PM
Crack the Skye was one of the best albums of 2009.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2010, 04:38:11 AM
Bleh, I guess it boils down to the fact I prefer rawer and more aggressive music (Although I don't mind non-aggressive styles, I just have to be in a "very" particular mood for it).

Don't worry bro, I totally back you up on this one.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
Bleh, I guess it boils down to the fact I prefer rawer and more aggressive music (Although I don't mind non-aggressive styles, I just have to be in a "very" particular mood for it).

Don't worry bro, I totally back you up on this one.
Thanks man, I appreciate it. But I got this one.

A more accurate assessment would be that you just don't like good music.
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 22, 2010, 09:05:36 AM
Anyone who says The Czar and The Last Baron are bad songs are clearly deluded :loser:
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 09:06:35 AM
Anyone who says The Czar and The Last Baron are bad songs has good taste.
FTFY
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 22, 2010, 09:07:32 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 22, 2010, 09:09:49 AM
Oh and Remission is shit :loser:
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 09:15:05 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 22, 2010, 09:19:34 AM
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Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gorille85 on October 22, 2010, 09:24:07 AM
Anyone who says The Czar and The Last Baron are bad songs are clearly deluded :loser:
This.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 09:45:57 AM
(https://memegenerator.net/maradona/ImageMacro/1523018/maradona-I-aint-even-mad-yo.jpg)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 22, 2010, 09:57:06 AM
Anyone who says The Czar and The Last Baron are bad songs has good taste.
FTFY
LOL
youjustwentfullretard.jpg
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
Anyone who says The Czar and The Last Baron are bad songs has good taste.
FTFY
LOL
youjustwentfullretard.jpg
Are you sure you aren't talking about yourself?  :loser:
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 22, 2010, 10:07:49 AM
(https://jenden.us/storage/JD/img/he_mad.jpg)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 22, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
Divinations  :heart
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gorille85 on October 22, 2010, 10:12:04 AM
The song, "Crack the Skye", is really good too!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Seventh Son on October 22, 2010, 10:12:15 AM
 :lol
I'm stepping out of this before I get banned.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 22, 2010, 10:16:04 AM
If I like Crack the Skye will I like any of the other albums?
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sonatafanica on October 22, 2010, 10:17:38 AM
If you like more metal than progressive stuff, sure.

I mean, it's not Porcupine Tree or anything, so you should love it.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Sigz on October 22, 2010, 10:19:32 AM
I have a hard time seeing you liking most of their earlier stuff.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 22, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
:lol
I'm stepping out of this before I get banned.

The mods probably don't even know what a Mastodon is. This thread is under the radar.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on October 22, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
:lol
I'm stepping out of this before I get banned.

Please do.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Fuzzboy on October 22, 2010, 12:13:21 PM
If I like Crack the Skye will I like any of the other albums?

You'd probably like good chunks of the other albums. Probably songs like Naked Burn from Leviathan, or Sleeping Giant from Blood Mountain.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: orcus116 on October 22, 2010, 12:23:58 PM
I don't believe I've ever really listened to Sleeping Giant before. Now this is the kind of stuff I can get into.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Gadough on October 22, 2010, 12:26:09 PM
:lol
I'm stepping out of this before I get banned.

The mods probably don't even know what a Mastodon is. This thread is under the radar.

It's funny because it's true.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: zerogravityfat on October 22, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
i tried listening to all their other stuff, but none are as cool, i like the different prog stuff on this one, don't care too much for the we are heavy as shit part.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ZBomber on October 22, 2010, 03:32:48 PM
If I like Crack the Skye will I like any of the other albums?

Probably not, to be honest. Unless you like sludge metal.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2010, 04:01:34 PM
Oh and Remission is shit :loser:

(https://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/m/mcdonalds_fail-12853.jpg)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ACID_FOX on October 22, 2010, 06:05:55 PM
I'd like Blood Mountain a hell of a lot more if it didn't sound like it was recorded in a bin.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 24, 2010, 10:15:05 AM
Oh and Remission is shit :loser:

(https://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/m/mcdonalds_fail-12853.jpg)
(https://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2010/04/trololo.jpg)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: glaurung on October 24, 2010, 10:33:20 AM
I really like Crack the Skye but the further I go back in their discography the more I don't like what I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: OsMosis2259 on October 24, 2010, 01:21:31 PM
I really like Crack the Skye but the further I go back in their discography the more I don't like what I'm hearing.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wkiml on October 24, 2010, 01:26:12 PM
Okay I see a lot of people saying that they like the newer stuff, but going backwards in the discography, they are not too keen on it.

As the only album I own is Leviathan, which I absolutely adore, how much different from this sound is the newer material. I know from reading around, they got more progressive, but did they move completely away from their Metal roots
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 24, 2010, 01:57:45 PM
I know from reading around, they got more progressive, but did they move completely away from their Metal roots

Blood Mountain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQo9bwQ2rQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnjoXKmO16I

Crack the Skye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxelXPg961M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WGNd8QR-U
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 24, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
I really like Crack the Skye but the further I go back in their discography the more I don't like what I'm hearing.
I'm kinda the same way, though I do like quite a few songs on Leviathan.

Blood Mountain, OTOH, fails to really interest me much.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: MetalManiac666 on October 24, 2010, 02:23:17 PM
Crack the Skye is a fantastic album.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wkiml on October 24, 2010, 02:33:56 PM
I know from reading around, they got more progressive, but did they move completely away from their Metal roots

Blood Mountain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQo9bwQ2rQc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnjoXKmO16I

Crack the Skye:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxelXPg961M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6WGNd8QR-U

Thanks of the videos I much prefer the Crack the Skye songs...The Blood Mountain songs too me sound like they were going for a more progressive sound, but didn't quite nail it.

Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Buckethead on October 24, 2010, 09:27:29 PM
Just bought this on vinyl the other day and it is heavenly!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: axeman90210 on October 24, 2010, 10:41:25 PM
this thread made me revisit Crack the Skye for the first time in a while, damn I forgot how :hat it is. Love that riff like 3:20 into The Czar
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: PixelDream on October 25, 2010, 09:36:24 AM
1. Crack The Skye
2. Remission
3. Leviathan
4. Blood Mountain

Weird ranking, I know.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 25, 2010, 12:31:48 PM
1.-Blood Mountain
2.-Leviathan
3.-Crack The Skye
4.-Remission
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 25, 2010, 05:28:19 PM
Crack the Skye
Leviathan
Blood Mountain
Remission
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Fuzzboy on October 25, 2010, 06:03:20 PM
Crack the Skye
Leviathan
Blood Mountain
Remission

This, except that the gap between Leviathan and Blood mountain is pretty big, and the gap between BM and Remission is even bigger
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 25, 2010, 09:29:59 PM
Okay I see a lot of people saying that they like the newer stuff, but going backwards in the discography, they are not too keen on it.

As the only album I own is Leviathan, which I absolutely adore, how much different from this sound is the newer material. I know from reading around, they got more progressive, but did they move completely away from their Metal roots

I think Crack the Skye is pretty damn metal.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 25, 2010, 10:47:22 PM
Leviathan



Remission
Blood Mountain
Call of the Mastodon/Lifesblood
















Crack the Skye
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 25, 2010, 11:41:25 PM
Crack the Skye
Leviathan










Blood Mountain

I don't own Remission.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2010, 01:06:05 AM
I don't own Remission.

You need to do something about that.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: toro on October 26, 2010, 08:12:22 AM
I was listening to The Last Baron and I think I love the vocals on that song  :blush(Vocals are my main problem with mastodon, but the vocals fit the song)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: zerogravityfat on October 26, 2010, 08:49:18 AM
the last baron is soul crushingly good.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on October 26, 2010, 06:51:38 PM
I was listening to The Last Baron and I think I love the vocals on that song  :blush(Vocals are my main problem with mastodon, but the vocals fit the song)

ONE OF US! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 26, 2010, 06:53:24 PM
I don't own Remission.

You need to do something about that.
There are a lot of albums that this applies to for me.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Birch Boy on October 26, 2010, 07:15:30 PM
They're certainly heavy, but that's where the agreements end. A lot of bands have heavy riffs, doesn't stop them from sucking (Just ask Pantera :p ).
(https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq5MMKr-CLWe3dNmCAQmzQZQcZqZ89_MgfxJcsQu4GLDNbg3M&t=1&usg=__O-Qv5mY3DOL3kkojjBL6Lyphx7U=)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on November 04, 2010, 08:56:47 PM
I decided to make a top ten Mastodon list, because I can't stop smileing over Megalodon and this is pretty much the Mastodon thread.

1. The Czar
2. Megalodon
3. Sleeping Giant
4. Divinations
5. Blood and Thunder
6. Oblivion
7. Quintessence
8. The Wolf is Loose
9. Ghost of Karelia
10. Aqua Dementia
11. Cut You With a Linoleum Knife
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on November 04, 2010, 09:36:44 PM
11. Cut You With a Linoleum Knife
:lol

1. Blood and Thunder
2. Divinations
3. Ghost of Karelia
4. Megalodon
5. Naked Burn
6. The Wolf is Loose
7. Oblivion
8. The Last Baron
9. Quintessence
10. Crack the Skye
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Basekick on November 05, 2010, 12:17:08 AM
I decided to make a top ten Mastodon list, because I can't stop smileing over Megalodon and this is pretty much the Mastodon thread.

1. The Czar
2. Megalodon
3. Sleeping Giant
4. Divinations
5. Blood and Thunder
6. Oblivion

7. Quintessence
8. The Wolf is Loose
9. Ghost of Karelia
10. Aqua Dementia
11. Cut You With a Linoleum Knife

Wow, that's a pretty solid top 5.  I'm shocked that someone else appreciates Sleeping Giant as much as me.  I consider it one of the most ingenious songs I have ever heard.  I mean seriously, how the fuck did they come up with that song?  It's BRILLIANT.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: moffatt on November 05, 2010, 01:47:07 AM
At the moment I can only think of a solid top 5.


1. Oblivion
2. The Last Baron
3. The Czar
4. Sleeping Giant
5. Blood and Thunder

All top 3 from Crack the Skye :P
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on November 05, 2010, 06:30:53 AM
Wow, that's a pretty solid top 5.  I'm shocked that someone else appreciates Sleeping Giant as much as me.  I consider it one of the most ingenious songs I have ever heard.  I mean seriously, how the fuck did they come up with that song?  It's BRILLIANT.

Crack the Skye got me into Mastodon.  Blood Mountain made me a bit iffy, but Sleeping Giant, Wolf, and Colony were the songs that told me to keep trying.  So I did.  But Sleeping Giant is still amazing.

EARTH HAS BURRRRRST
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: DarkEternalNight on November 05, 2010, 05:02:15 PM
This thread inspired me to try Crack The Skye again. Aaaaaamazing  :heart
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Birch Boy on November 05, 2010, 08:20:19 PM
Damn, I want this album. I listened to a bit of it on my friend's iPod back when it came out, and I've been dying to get it since.

I might buy it along with a physical copy of Tool's Lateralus with my first paycheck. ;D
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: skydivingninja on November 05, 2010, 10:07:04 PM
If you already have Lateralus, you can just save your money.  Or use that money and buy more Mastodon.  GET CRACK THE SKYE NAO
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: ZBomber on November 05, 2010, 10:08:46 PM
Damn, I want this album. I listened to a bit of it on my friend's iPod back when it came out, and I've been dying to get it since.

I might buy it along with a physical copy of Tool's Lateralus with my first paycheck. ;D

Definitely pick it up as soon as you can. Its easily my favorite album that came out in 2009.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on November 13, 2010, 01:15:25 PM
thread res!

Heart Alive is criminally underrated.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dimitrius on November 13, 2010, 01:17:01 PM
I had gotten this album some time before seeing them open up for Metallica back in March. It didn't really click with me... until I saw them live! Fucking amazing album!!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: DarkEternalNight on November 13, 2010, 02:22:25 PM
1. Leviathan
2. Crack The Skye
3. Blood Mountain
4. Remission
----------------
1. Megalodon
2. Quintessence
3. Divinations
4. I Am Ahab
5. Iron Tusk
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: faemir on November 13, 2010, 02:32:23 PM
If a mod could change the topic title, it would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on January 31, 2014, 01:17:08 AM
I decided to just post on this thread rather then start a new one.

I'v been listening the the Crack The Skye album. I like it a lot. I'v heard of them a lot before, but don't know much about them. It sounds like there are 2 vocalists in the band. I'v heard Mastodon referred to as stuff like 'the new Metallica' and the future of metal.

This made me wonder, what style of metal is Mastodon? I know subgenre grouping is annoying, but it's done, and done a lot. They seem to mostly have elements of Thrash and Speed metal. What would you say Mastodon is?
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 31, 2014, 03:02:21 AM
I recently just listened to this album properly, while mowing the lawns, and I must say, it is absolutely stellar.  Notepad, I've always considered them Sludge Metal, but I don't even know if thats a thing :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: wolfking on January 31, 2014, 04:13:15 AM
Notepad, I've always considered them Sludge Metal, but I don't even know if thats a thing :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge_metal
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 31, 2014, 06:22:14 AM
I've always considered sludge to be a more metal version of grunge. I don't know if that's even remotely accurate, though. :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on January 31, 2014, 01:11:23 PM
I never hear the term Sludge Metal. Sounds like it would mean Grunge. The genre known as Grunge doesn't sound like what I image when I hear the term Grunge.

Mastodon clearly has elements of a lot of different styles.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 31, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Grunge and sludge are clearly two different styles, I just feel like they have some elements in common. Sludge, or at least the way I've always defined it (which may or may not be right, I don't really know a whole lot about the exact definition), is heavy, aggressive, somewhat "messy" riffs, harsh vocals, but not full on growls, and generally not a whole lot of solos and stuff.

Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 31, 2014, 05:24:28 PM
Also, if there's a mod around, perhaps this thread should be merged with this (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23362.0) one.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Jaq on January 31, 2014, 05:47:36 PM
I thought we had a more recent one than this.  :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on January 31, 2014, 06:29:31 PM
I've always seen sludge metal described as metal mixed with heavy elements of punk music.  But, as with all subgenres of metal, this becomes a rather useless description under any degree of scrutiny.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 31, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Notepad, I've always considered them Sludge Metal, but I don't even know if thats a thing :lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sludge_metal

Thanks wolf.  Its wikipropriate
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on February 03, 2014, 11:24:38 AM
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q79/s720x720/61320_734894933200908_1151802628_n.jpg)

NA tour with Mastodon, Gojira, and Kvelertak.

FUCK.

YES.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dark Castle on February 03, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
NO.FUCKING.SOUTH EAST DATES.

What the fuck. I'd at least expect some, seeing that Mastodon are from the god damned South East.

3rd time in a row I have a 0% chance to see Kvelertak because they've never breached Florida, but fuck they can sure go to Minneapolis every time now that I've moved down south.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 03, 2014, 11:32:38 AM
This might not be the right thread (but since when do I care...), but can someone rec me a few Kvelertak songs? I've heard a lot about them, but never actually heard 'em before.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dark Castle on February 03, 2014, 11:35:02 AM
Inb4 I say

"ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OF THE SONGS"


but check out

Mjod
Offernatt
Liktorn
Ordsmedar Av Rang
Utrydd Dei Svake
Bruane Brenn
Evig Vandrar
Underto

a little bit of each album right there.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on February 03, 2014, 11:42:18 AM
Utrydd Dei Svake

LieLow sent me that one in my roulette, it's pretty damn kickass.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dark Castle on February 03, 2014, 11:45:16 AM
I honest to god think it's the best ending to an album ever.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 03, 2014, 11:53:09 AM
:tup
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on February 03, 2014, 12:58:26 PM
With metal (and most music) the whole labeling sub-genres of other genre's, and sub-genres of those sub-genres is gradually becoming obsolete. With bands like Mastodon, Deftones, A Perfect Circle and many others becoming more popular, people are finding it more and more difficult to put labels on bands. So I expect it to just stop. Whatever happened to a bands just being a Metal band? There are no new metal bands that are just or mainly considered a Metal band.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 03, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
That's because there are very few bands who play just straight-up metal. There still are some, though. Accept comes to mind, I've only ever heard them described as "metal" or "heavy metal". And I don't think genre classification will ever go away. It does get a bit ridiculous at times, but it is still often useful and relevant.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Mister Gold on February 03, 2014, 02:17:44 PM
I'm very interested in how the upcoming album is going to sound musically. Apparently they're almost done making it, so it'll probably be out in a few months. From what I've read of what the band's said so far, it looks like it's going to be like Remission meets The Hunter.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Zantera on February 03, 2014, 03:54:34 PM
Labeling sub-genres isn't necessarily a bad thing though. It makes it easier for people to find music they like. If all metal music was labeled "metal", it would be really hard to find what you are looking for. Sub-genres is good in that sense, it gives you something to go on.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 03, 2014, 04:34:31 PM
That's because there are very few bands who play just straight-up metal. There still are some, though. Accept comes to mind, I've only ever heard them described as "metal" or "heavy metal". And I don't think genre classification will ever go away. It does get a bit ridiculous at times, but it is still often useful and relevant.

I cannot stand the whole black metal 'elite' thing they've got going on, where anything other than black metal is not true and/or kvlt.  That shit is ridiculous and does my head in.  I posted a BTBAM video to my fb one day and a couple of guys went ape shit about it not being 'true' metal and being hipster gay fag progressive core blah blah.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 03, 2014, 04:35:59 PM
Ever been to Metal Archives? The mods there have some sort of personal beef with BTBAM not being "metal". I think I lurked there for about a day before deciding all the "has to be the most brutal thing ever to be metal" mentality wasn't for me. :lol
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: sneakyblueberry on February 03, 2014, 05:07:24 PM
Yeah!  That place and, like, Encyclopedia Metallum or whatever.  Their seriousness about it all is fucking hilarious. 
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dark Castle on February 03, 2014, 05:12:44 PM
Back when Decibel Magazine still had a forum, it could get really bad. A bunch of cranky 40+ year olds who shat on every musical opinion you shared, even if you went back a few pages and they liked the band you tried talking about as well.

Pretty much everything was dubbed "Entombedcore" because I guess every modern metal band is trying to copy Entombed (even if one I like a lot does worship at the altar of Entombed, I don't see why that's a bad thing)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Kotowboy on February 03, 2014, 05:33:33 PM
I find a lot of modern metal bands "mediocore ".
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 03, 2014, 05:34:10 PM
I will admit, I lolled. (lol'd? lold?)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 03, 2014, 08:37:36 PM
I find a lot of modern metal bands "mediocore ".
Agreed. ;)

Also, mediocore is going into my personal lexicon.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 03, 2014, 09:38:21 PM
They're not sludge metal -- that comes from my hometown of New Orleans in the form of Crowbar, DOWN, EyeHateGod, etc.  Think slow tuned down Sabbathy metal mixed with some Melvins.  :blackfloyd:

Mastodon has a more prog sound to it than sludge.

Sadly, I've found I like Mastodon less with each passing album....   :(  I love "Remission" and "Leviathan" and find both to be stellar classics, but I've liked each album in succession since those less and less.  Finally got to see them live for the first time when they toured as part of Mayhem last year and they were just ... boring.  Granted, they were an odd fit for the Mayhem lineup but I was really excited to see them and then .... pfffft.  :sadpanda: They were just underwhelming, unengaged with the crowd, dull.  I was extremely disappointed.  I'd go give them another try if they come close again, but that show last summer really was a major letdown.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Tom Bombadil on February 03, 2014, 10:01:01 PM
Sadly, I've found I like Mastodon less with each passing album....   :(  I love "Remission" and "Leviathan" and find both to be stellar classics, but I've liked each album in succession since those less and less.
I totally agree. I think Leviathan is an incredible album and would probably be in my top 20. What I've heard from Remission was pretty good.  But the rest just doesn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: black_biff_stadler on February 03, 2014, 10:49:40 PM
Holy fuck! Back to back posts from cats who've got the same (extremely uncommon on DTF) Mastodon opinion as me. Much love, Tommy and Ricky :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on February 04, 2014, 01:43:00 AM
I'm not too familar with Mastodon other then the Crack The Sky album (feels like i said that already....) But I really enjoy this album. It's great. I'm a big Deftones fan and apparently their lead guitarist is a huge Mastodon fan and there is some influence in their last couple albums. Personally, I'd rather Mastodon not influence Deftones because that means the music will be less like White Pony, which is the direction i'd like Deftones to go more in (more spacey and trip-hop-ish, less blatant heaviness). But I'm not here to talk about Deftones (although i tend to).

Mastodon has seemed like they are on the verge on being gigantic, like Metallica big (maybe). And maybe they are really big. But a while ago when i first started hearing about them it seemed like they were the REAL metal band finally on the verge of huge commercial success. But that doesn't seemed to have happened. But I guess i don't listen to radio and all that mainstream music talk. I could be wrong. But this seems like the situation, and they just never had their Black album. At least not yet. But of course, they are still VERY popular. Just not, you know...But I could be wrong. Please correct me if im wrong. And explain to me the situation.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: rickhawk80 on February 04, 2014, 06:59:02 AM
Holy fuck! Back to back posts from cats who've got the same (extremely uncommon on DTF) Mastodon opinion as me. Much love, Tommy and Ricky :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart
:lol :tup :tup :tup

Mastodon has seemed like they are on the verge on being gigantic, like Metallica big (maybe). And maybe they are really big. But a while ago when i first started hearing about them it seemed like they were the REAL metal band finally on the verge of huge commercial success. But that doesn't seemed to have happened. But I guess i don't listen to radio and all that mainstream music talk. I could be wrong. But this seems like the situation, and they just never had their Black album. At least not yet. But of course, they are still VERY popular. Just not, you know...But I could be wrong. Please correct me if im wrong. And explain to me the situation.

They are certainly getting the love from critics more with each album but they're still not on the verge of Metallica huge by any stretch.  They're big enough to headline small theaters but I think the arena headlining is still not on the horizon unless they do create their own Black Album of sorts in the future.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on February 04, 2014, 01:25:14 PM
I think they SHOULD create their own Black album ;) Something more easy to digest by the general public, making their careers skyrocket!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 04, 2014, 01:27:29 PM
Or they should make whatever the heck they want, without regard for whether people like it.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Dark Castle on February 04, 2014, 01:54:59 PM
I think they SHOULD create their own Black album ;) Something more easy to digest by the general public, making their careers skyrocket!
I'd rather see them not go commercial. If they wanna go that direction, then whatever, but from the sounds of it, they're supposedly going Remission/The Hunter on this next album, and that sounds incredibly radular.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: WebRaider on February 04, 2014, 02:32:57 PM
I'm a fan of all of their work. Fans trip me out wanting a band to create the same album over and over. Metal can be very stagnant and sound very samey to me if it doesn't change it up and branch out the way Mastodon has over its career. I would get bored with them if every album was same as Leviathan. Although the album is awesome and brutal there's just not enough there for me to enjoy listening to that style over and over beyond a few albums.. there has to be more depth for me long term. IMO Mastodon has thus far brilliantly moved their sound around.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Outcrier on February 04, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
I think they SHOULD create their own Black album ;) Something more easy to digest by the general public, making their careers skyrocket!

If they can make a acessible album without dumbing down their music...
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 04, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
Personally, I love Leviathan and Crack The Skye. Haven't heard most of the others, so I can't comment on that.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 04, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
I think they SHOULD create their own Black album ;) Something more easy to digest by the general public, making their careers skyrocket!
I call The Hunter their Black Album except, well, good. ;)
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Mister Gold on February 04, 2014, 08:43:08 PM
I think they SHOULD create their own Black album ;) Something more easy to digest by the general public, making their careers skyrocket!
I call The Hunter their Black Album except, well, good. ;)

^ This.

Also, been listening to Remission a lot more lately. It's grown tremendously on me since I first heard it back in October. Definitely one of their bests, along with Leviathan and Crack the Skye.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: NotePad on February 04, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
I agree, bands need to evolve, otherwise they're Motley Crue.

I'v been getting into Isis. They still play together thought, most of them, as Palms with Chino Moreno, they're even gonna do another album. They probably felt like they couldn't bring the music they make with Isis any further, so they decided to create a new "band", without tarnishing the Isis name. Just my theory, of course.

But it's a theory that makes you think. How can a band like Mastodon do something new and exciting but still sound like the same band? I'm sure they can do it. Metallica did it with the Black album, and of course continued to do it with they're next albums. Obviously some think it was too drastic ;p I love their older thrash, but imagine they didn't change like they did. They would be Megadeth. Death Magnetic was IMHO great because it felt new and not stale because they returned to a style they did earlier but stopped, coming back to it from a new and mature angel. (i know, comments like these create shitstorms, if you have any comments meet me in the Metallica thread ;)

On a slight related note though, i remember Metallica say Korn was the future of metal once upon a time. They were wrong of course. But from what I keep hearing in different place and from metal fans and musicians talking about influences, part of me feels that Mastodon may be the future of metal. I'm not exactly sure what I mean....but i think they're a very important band right now and influencing a lot of new and their fellow contemporary bands.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on February 04, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
I love Mastodon, but honestly I feel like their importance in the metal scene is a bit overstated.

As far as your other point, why should they have to be confined to what people consider "their sound"? If a band wants to change their name or whatever to release different music, I'm cool with that, but I also don't mind a band releasing drastically different sounding albums under the same name. Devy does it, Ulver does it, other bands do it.

Obviously, it's up to the band themselves, but as for me, I have no problem with it.
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Kotowboy on February 05, 2014, 10:49:55 AM
I find a lot of modern metal bands "mediocore ".
Agreed. ;)

Also, mediocore is going into my personal lexicon.

:hug:
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 25, 2019, 07:53:44 AM
Back in the summer of 2008 when we finished recording our 5th full length album Crack the Skye, we felt like we had created something very special. That is why, to celebrate the 10 year anniversary of one of our proudest moments, we decided to take it out on tour and play it start to finish along with some other golden oldies of course. Can’t wait to see all of you on tour so we can celebrate Crack the Skye’s birthday together!!

We’ve also made some brand new Crack The Skye merch. You can check it out at http://mastodonrocks.com/cracktheskye.

Lastly, we’re rolling out a series of never before seen videos from the making of Crack The Skye. Check out episode on their FB page!
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: Metro on March 25, 2019, 11:15:20 AM
I had no idea you were a member of Mastodon, Ministro.  :metal
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: mike099 on March 25, 2019, 12:17:17 PM
I had no idea you were a member of Mastodon, Ministro.  :metal

In that case, he is forgiven for resurrecting a 5 year old thread.  I plan to go if they play near Nashville this time. 
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: MinistroRaven on March 25, 2019, 12:22:35 PM
I had no idea you were a member of Mastodon, Ministro.  :metal

hahaha me neither. Sorry, I forgot to quote
Title: Re: Mastodon - Crack the skye
Post by: lucasembarbosa on September 07, 2021, 10:29:11 AM
Bump. Couldn't find another specific thread for Mastodon, but it seems that they'll release a new album soon: "Hushed and Grim", apparently at the same day as AVFTTOTW, or a week later.


https://elusivedisc.com/mastodon-hushed-and-grim-2lp/

https://mgrecords.hu/en/node/216690

they are revealing pieces of the artwork in their social media profiles.


Side A:
Pain with an Anchor
The Crux
Sickle and Peace
More Than I Could Chew

Side B:
The Beast
Skeleton of Splendor
Teardrinker
Pushing the Tides

Side C:
Peace and Tranquility
Dagger
Had It All
Savage Lands

Side D:
Gobblers of Dregs
Eyes of Serpents
Gigantium



EDIT: Added to the main Mastodon thread so this one can be locked: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23362.msg2806683#msg2806683