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Title: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 16, 2015, 07:28:00 AM
Anyone watching? I've seen the first two episodes and it's very promising. I've liked it a lot....and actually enjoyed the way they just throw you in to the stories. It's like they assumed you 'knew' what has been going on prior to entering the show....but at the same time they are doing good at giving enough info. to build a character yet aren't being over the top. Also, it's very well done as far as production. Seems like it'll be a good show.....
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: King Postwhore on December 16, 2015, 09:02:20 AM
DVR'd it.  I told Blob about it since he's all Sci-fi'eeeeeeee and stuff.

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Post by: Genowyn on December 16, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
I've only seen the first episode so far. Mostly checking it out because I love Daniel Abraham's (one of the two authors who make up James SA Corey) The Dagger and Coin Fantasy series. I've read a bit of the first book (and will read more as soon as the library gets it back in) and I have to aay the prologue worked much better in that format
 Very disturbing, as opposed to the TV show version where I had no idea wtf was supposed to be happening :lol. Oh well books are always better and I'll definitely keep watching.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 16, 2015, 01:49:54 PM
Heard lots of good things about this show, will check it out once I got time.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on December 17, 2015, 10:21:17 AM
Just seen the first episode so far, and it seems pretty good. Obviously impossible to properly judge so early on, but definite potential.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Genowyn on January 01, 2016, 09:13:08 PM
Really digging how this has been going so far. The first episode was a little shaky, but it's just been getting better as it goes on.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 01, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
Really digging how this has been going so far. The first episode was a little shaky, but it's just been getting better as it goes on.

I'm all in. Like you said, it gets better with each episode and it's been picked up for a second season already. It's really well done and the story just keeps evolving. Very cool show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 02, 2016, 08:13:31 AM
Just finished watching the fourth episode. I am really loving this show so far!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 02, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
Just heard they made the series.  I have read the first 3 books though a couple years ago.  Reading #4 now :)  I'll have to start on the show for sure!!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Genowyn on January 06, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
So I read the entire first book between the previous episode and today's... Most of the changes seem pretty inconsequential but it's strange how they're being pretty faithful with Holden's storyline but throwing a bunch of random crap into Miller's.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 07, 2016, 09:32:29 PM
Saw the first 2 episodes and am really impressed with it so far.  EXCELLENT job tracking the first book.   All the small details, like cultural mannerisms and language, seem to be really well translated from book to screen.


So I read the entire first book between the previous episode and today's... Most of the changes seem pretty inconsequential but it's strange how they're being pretty faithful with Holden's storyline but throwing a bunch of random crap into Miller's.

It's been a couple years since I read Leviathan Wakes, but so far in the first couple episodes Miller seems right on point to me.  About every scene I see him in jives with my recollection of him at the start.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 07, 2016, 09:37:24 PM
Having not read the books....I have nothing to compare it to. All I know it's a really good show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Genowyn on January 08, 2016, 01:13:28 PM

So I read the entire first book between the previous episode and today's... Most of the changes seem pretty inconsequential but it's strange how they're being pretty faithful with Holden's storyline but throwing a bunch of random crap into Miller's.

It's been a couple years since I read Leviathan Wakes, but so far in the first couple episodes Miller seems right on point to me.  About every scene I see him in jives with my recollection of him at the start.

It's later on it really starts to veer, you'll see.

That being said, I'm still enjoying the show. Having started on the second book, though, I'm a little disappointed in how they toned down Avasarala's...  colourful language.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 08, 2016, 07:02:03 PM

 I'm a little disappointed in how they toned down Avasarala's...  colourful language.

Yeah... :lol  I've mentioned that to a couple peeps I've talked too.  I don't think her "Book" language would be a big hit for the SyFy crowd... :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: adace on January 15, 2016, 03:43:58 PM
Just started watching this series and so far I'm very impressed. Intriguing plot, great characters, and very cool CGI. Definitely wanna see where this goes.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 16, 2016, 12:48:26 AM
Just started watching this series and so far I'm very impressed. Intriguing plot, great characters, and very cool CGI. Definitely wanna see where this goes.

If it continues to track the first book like it has been, buckle up!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Genowyn on January 16, 2016, 07:15:50 PM
Book 1 Spoilers:

Pacing seems on track to end season 1 at Eros, which is what I expected them to do. However they missed some opportunities with the episode names... the season finale is called "Leviathan Wakes", obviously should have been called "Meat for the Machine". "Leviathan Wakes" should be when Eros dodges Nauvoo.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 02, 2016, 03:33:48 AM
Finally started watching the first two episodes and it's great so far. A show right up my alley and to be honest even though I love the genre both as movies and games I usually avoid sci-fi shows like this because the production is usually questionable sadly. So far this seems like a good mix between great CGI, characters and plot.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 02, 2016, 07:38:00 AM
Finally started watching the first two episodes and it's great so far. A show right up my alley and to be honest even though I love the genre both as movies and games I usually avoid sci-fi shows like this because the production is usually questionable sadly. So far this seems like a good mix between great CGI, characters and plot.

There are a couple guys here who've read the books. I haven't, but I've loved this show. The (2) Hour finale is this week and I can't see how it won't be great being that all the other episodes have been.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Genowyn on February 02, 2016, 10:19:11 PM
Pretty much where I expected the season to end. I've got some gripes (mostly of the "What was the point of that, exactly?" variety. For example: Why did we already meet Avasarala when she hasn't done anything important? Why did we need the cyborg dude, exactly?) but overall it was good. Looking forward to next season.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 09, 2016, 10:27:28 AM
Finished this over the weekend.  I really enjoyed this series.  Looking forward to season 2.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 09, 2016, 10:42:50 AM
Finished this over the weekend.  I really enjoyed this series.  Looking forward to season 2.

yeah...very well done. quality production and the story is moving right along.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 01, 2017, 06:53:01 PM
Back Tonight :metal

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 11, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
Finally caught up on this. I am loving the new season so far.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: LudwigVan on February 11, 2017, 01:39:30 PM
I'm halfway thru season one. Really good show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 11, 2017, 03:07:38 PM
Finally caught up on this. I am loving the new season so far.

I agree. Very good start...they've done a real good job at creating several compelling characters. I dig the underlying plight between Earth and Mars and then the whole added aspect of this 'experiment'....it's been a good show. Production quality is great as well.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 12, 2017, 07:16:35 PM
So far season 2 is NOT disappointing!!!  :tup  Man I love this show!!  Really like how they're explaining the protomolocule.  Honestly, while I understood it in the books, I get a better grasp now of what it is.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 03, 2017, 08:11:03 PM
If your a Sci Fi fan and not watching this show you need to do yourself a favor and get in on it. Such a good show that cares about character development, content, production value....it's just the real deal.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 06, 2017, 10:31:15 AM
Agreed.  All things considered (writing, directing, acting, effects, consistency, etc), these two seasons may be the best first two seasons of any sci-fi show ever.

I never use hyperbole.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 18, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
Excited for tomorrow's season finale!  They've been great at keeping to the story (books) if they keep that trend going tomorrow and the season 3 premiere should both be good :)
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on April 19, 2017, 07:40:01 AM
Haven't read the books, but the show is fucking awesome, and I am really looking forward to tonight's finale.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 19, 2017, 07:48:06 AM
Haven't read the books, but the show is fucking awesome, and I am really looking forward to tonight's finale.

Same here. Didn't even know the books existed....but this show is great!! Was happy to see that this was picked up for season three recently as I read an article a month or so ago saying it was in danger of being cancelled by SyFy. Which made sense because SyFy cancels all their good programming and replaces it with crap like Wynona Earp.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 19, 2017, 08:25:20 PM
Let's just hope they keep going past season 3!!   :metal
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Cyclopssss on September 23, 2017, 06:08:00 AM
Just dipped my toes in and watched the first three episodes (as an antidote to the demise of Dark Matter)  :'(

Love what I'm seeing so far.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on September 23, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
Just dipped my toes in and watched the first three episodes (as an antidote to the demise of Dark Matter)  :'(

Love what I'm seeing so far.

Cool!  :tup     I've thoroughly enjoyed the show. If you've liked what you've seen so far it only gets better
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 01, 2017, 12:34:29 PM
Is Killjoys worth it if you enjoyed The Expanse?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Art on October 17, 2017, 10:57:36 AM
I'm on S02E09, and The Expanse is by far my favorite series of the moment.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 17, 2017, 11:36:19 AM
I'm on S02E09, and The Expanse is by far my favorite series of the moment.

It's a really well done series
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 18, 2017, 01:34:03 AM
Yeah it's quite a trip! Didn't know what to expect from it at first but it quickly became an addictive watch for me.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 06, 2017, 01:14:28 AM
Season 3 anytime soon? 
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on April 10, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
Season 3 anytime soon?

This Wednesday, it’s Back!!    :metal

Can’t wait
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on April 11, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
Season 3 anytime soon?

This Wednesday, it’s Back!!    :metal

Can’t wait
Shit!!!  almost missed it!  :lol  Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on May 25, 2018, 11:05:45 PM
These first 6 of S03 have been some of the best, especially 4-6. Just wow.

Then cancelled.

Now, Season 4 on Amazon as Bezos himself makes the announcement.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/expanse-officially-revived-season-4-at-amazon-1115160
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on May 26, 2018, 12:30:42 AM
Wtf, impossible to keep up! I didn't know season 3 had started airing (we get it months late in the UK), or that SyFy had cancelled it (though shouldn't be surprised because they cancel all their best shows - what an absolutely rubbish network). Very glad it's been saved though, it's one of my very favourite shows.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on May 26, 2018, 08:01:06 AM
Yeah, this season has been pretty friggin awesome. I was so bummed when they cancelled it then stoked when I read Bezos was gonna save it.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on June 21, 2018, 08:14:23 AM
Man, this show is incredible!! Cannot wait for the finale next week and again, am so glad this show was saved by AMAZON. It's one of the top Sci Fi shows of all time as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on July 01, 2018, 06:02:37 AM
Wow...wow...and WOW!!!!!  Just got back from my vacation in Mex and had the final 3 episodes waiting for me.  What an incredible final 3 episodes!  They are doing an outstanding job capturing the overall story, details, and nuances of the books!  Now that Amazon is taking over I can't wait to see what the future of this show holds!  Currently the show is at the beginning of book 4, with 7 already written and 2 more scheduled!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 25, 2019, 11:21:54 AM
Is anyone outside the US watching the show? If so how? Since it's not on Netflix anymore I can't seem to find a way to see S02 and 03. I even have an Amazon Prime account but I guess that's only for when S04 is released?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 25, 2019, 12:56:35 PM
Is anyone outside the US watching the show? If so how? Since it's not on Netflix anymore I can't seem to find a way to see S02 and 03. I even have an Amazon Prime account but I guess that's only for when S04 is released?

I read that AMAZON is getting ready to make seasons 2 and 3 available.....and that season 4 is to come out late this year. I'll try to find that link
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on January 25, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
Yeah I imagine whenever Amazon makes it available it'll include all the previous seasons. We've still not had season 3 at all yet in the UK as Netflix never bothered to make it available.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 25, 2019, 01:10:30 PM
Is anyone outside the US watching the show? If so how? Since it's not on Netflix anymore I can't seem to find a way to see S02 and 03. I even have an Amazon Prime account but I guess that's only for when S04 is released?

I read that AMAZON is getting ready to make seasons 2 and 3 available.....and that season 4 is to come out late this year. I'll try to find that link
That would be sweet!  :tup
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 25, 2019, 02:20:07 PM
Is anyone outside the US watching the show? If so how? Since it's not on Netflix anymore I can't seem to find a way to see S02 and 03. I even have an Amazon Prime account but I guess that's only for when S04 is released?

I read that AMAZON is getting ready to make seasons 2 and 3 available.....and that season 4 is to come out late this year. I'll try to find that link
That would be sweet!  :tup

AMAZON will make season 3 available Febrary 8th. First two Seasons are on Prime already. 4th Season to come out this year.

https://winteriscoming.net/2019/01/25/the-expanse-worldwide-amazon-video/
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 25, 2019, 03:32:54 PM
Is anyone outside the US watching the show? If so how? Since it's not on Netflix anymore I can't seem to find a way to see S02 and 03. I even have an Amazon Prime account but I guess that's only for when S04 is released?

I read that AMAZON is getting ready to make seasons 2 and 3 available.....and that season 4 is to come out late this year. I'll try to find that link
That would be sweet!  :tup

AMAZON will make season 3 available Febrary 8th. First two Seasons are on Prime already. 4th Season to come out this year.

https://winteriscoming.net/2019/01/25/the-expanse-worldwide-amazon-video/
Awesome, it looks like 1-3 will be available worldwide Feb 8th, right now you can only watch 1-2 in the US though.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 14, 2019, 11:43:06 AM
Finally, the show are available on Amazon in my country. Decided to do a re-watch of S01 and 02 since it's been a while.  :tup



Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on February 14, 2019, 02:19:11 PM
I rewatched S1 before S2 aired, but yeah I'm rewatching S2 now and will move onto S3 straight after. This show is just so good.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 16, 2019, 04:57:48 AM
It was a bit rough in the beginning for me but once you got to now the characters a bit more you of course enjoy it more. I wasn't so into Miller at first, I felt he overplayed the "worn out cop that's seen everything" a bit too much.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on March 01, 2019, 02:38:29 PM
Finished season three, damn I love this show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on March 02, 2019, 04:27:09 AM
Yea I also just finished S03 and I have to say they opened up so much story potential for the show in the finale. Can't wait for S04 now and what the future holds!  :tup
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on March 02, 2019, 07:54:44 AM
It sounds like the show has sped up a bit vs the books in overall plot terms, and is now both 3 books and 3 seasons in. I wonder if they'll try and stick roughly to one season per book in future.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on March 02, 2019, 09:02:24 AM
Maybe with AMAZON now footing the bill they will slow it down a bit. I read that season 4 is done filming and it’s now in post production. I imagine that takes a bit given the amount of (incredible) CGI that is used. The article said they’re eying a fall date for 4th season premiere.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on July 28, 2019, 09:59:22 AM
Season 4 trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNIim3xqsEU

Season 5 already confirmed:

https://www.denofgeek.com/us/tv/282501/the-expanse-season-5-news
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 28, 2019, 10:39:42 AM
 :metal and  :metal
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on July 28, 2019, 10:45:49 AM
Yeah....this is awesome news! Such a fantastic show!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on July 28, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
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Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on August 12, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
Yeah......  I just got a lil chub watching that.... :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 13, 2019, 08:56:34 AM
Just checked and Amazon dropped all of Season 4 today. 10 episodes ready and waiting.

I have too much to watch.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 13, 2019, 09:37:53 AM
Just checked and Amazon dropped all of Season 4 today. 10 episodes ready and waiting.

I have too much to watch.


Guess who's not sleeping anytime soon........this guy!!!! ha ha


I have (6) hockey games to either coach or watch between two of my kiddos this weekend.....so I imagine I won't be able to really dig into this until Sunday or Monday night. Cannot Wait!!!!!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on December 13, 2019, 03:41:12 PM
Two episodes in so far, god this show is just so damn great.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 13, 2019, 10:49:38 PM
Three episodes in.  Freaking love this show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on December 15, 2019, 06:02:56 AM
Worked tonight and saw that the season dropped!  Man... hope I can force myself to go to sleep this morning!  Well... after a couple episodes that is  ;D
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 16, 2019, 11:44:36 PM
Great freaking season!  :metal  I wish S5 were here already.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: kaos2900 on December 17, 2019, 06:54:55 AM
I really need to watch this show. It's on the list.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 17, 2019, 08:41:25 AM
I really need to watch this show. It's on the list.

Yes. Yes you do. I think it has surpassed 'Continuum' as my all time favorite Sci Fi series. In any event, if you like the Sci Fi genre and you haven't watched this show you are REALLY missing out. Incredible special effects....I'm not exaggerating when I say they are motion picture level maybe even better.....the space sequences are awesome.

And the show does a great job at depicting how the political scene would most likely look if mankind were to populate the solar system. The story continually progresses with no real 'slow' spots and they have several different story lines being told all interwoven. It's just a really good show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 17, 2019, 11:10:28 AM
Ah, too much good TV to watch!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 17, 2019, 11:24:54 AM
Ah, too much good TV to watch!

Have you watched this show Hef? Curious to hear your opinion on it.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 17, 2019, 03:55:25 PM
Ah, too much good TV to watch!

Have you watched this show Hef? Curious to hear your opinion on it.
I LOVE The Expanse.  I just don't have time to watch this new season yet!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Art on December 18, 2019, 05:59:18 AM
The best show on tv right now IMHO. The Expanse is incredible.

Halfway through season 4. Watching just one episode a day, to make it last.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 18, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
The best show on tv right now IMHO.

I'm with  you on loving this show to death but I personally give that nod to Mr. Robot.....The Expanse is up there though. It's such a good show. Well written, visually stunning....story just continues to advance with no real slow moments.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 20, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
Great season and in general this is one of the best sci-fi shows in recent years. The only thing that annoys me is some of the characters especially Avasarala, there's just something about her acting that throws me off. I  :facepalm: everytime she get's mad and swears, i'm not sure why but that just feels like forced acting.

Amos is my favourite though. :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 20, 2019, 04:17:12 PM
The best show on tv right now IMHO.
visually stunning
I actually think that's something that dosen't get enough credit, I mean i'm not sure about their budget but in terms of tv-shows in general the CGI is really top notch for the most parts.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 20, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
The best show on tv right now IMHO.
visually stunning
I actually think that's something that dosen't get enough credit, I mean i'm not sure about their budget but in terms of tv-shows in general the CGI is really top notch for the most parts.

It’s a step above near all other attempts from Sci Fi shows. It looks incredible.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: jammindude on January 07, 2020, 10:21:08 PM
Watched the first two episodes tonight on recommendation from my best friend.

Love it so far. Can’t wait to check out the rest.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 09, 2020, 08:40:17 AM
Gonna be a looooong wait for next season.  But, after reading the books I'm excited for what should be coming! 
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 09, 2020, 09:07:59 AM
Watched the first two episodes tonight on recommendation from my best friend.

Love it so far. Can’t wait to check out the rest.

It's a great series.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ErHaO on January 10, 2020, 04:10:51 PM
I really enjoyed the second and third seasons, but honestly the first season is by far my favourite. I enjoyed the relatively grounded scifi setting and subsequent seasons are getting more and more "space magic". But now that I accepted that, I look forward to viewing the rest and waiting for other seasons. It is great that Amazon picked this one up.

Furthermore,  talking about video games, the first season of The Expanse felt somewhat similar to Call of Duty Infinite Warfare campaign in more than one way (which I consider to be underrated). I think it is worth a try if you enjoy a Mars vs Earth and colonies story with political stuff mixed in.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 14, 2020, 11:30:57 AM
I really enjoyed the second and third seasons, but honestly the first season is by far my favourite. I enjoyed the relatively grounded scifi setting and subsequent seasons are getting more and more "space magic". But now that I accepted that, I look forward to viewing the rest and waiting for other seasons. It is great that Amazon picked this one up.

Furthermore,  talking about video games, the first season of The Expanse felt somewhat similar to Call of Duty Infinite Warfare campaign in more than one way (which I consider to be underrated). I think it is worth a try if you enjoy a Mars vs Earth and colonies story with political stuff mixed in.
I still think it's well grounded, especially the human tech.

When you introduce alien tech of such an advanced magnitude sure it's gonna seem like magic.  The whole series is based on alien tech, starting with the protomolecule.  But the human tech is at least believable!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 14, 2020, 03:55:34 PM
Finished the new season. 

Holy crap!  I'm glad that Amazon picked this up!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: jammindude on February 11, 2020, 11:05:49 PM
Just starting Season 4 and loving it.

Anyone read the books?  If so, is there a lot of difference?  Or does it follow the books fairly closely?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 12, 2020, 05:54:46 AM
The missus and I finished up watching all four seasons this past weekend. I'm now halfway through the first novel (read the prequel short stories too).

Anyone read the books?  If so, is there a lot of difference?  Or does it follow the books fairly closely?

The main thread of the story, as relates to the Rocinante crew, Miller and the protomolecule is the same. Much of the solar system politics is different, but interesting.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: jammindude on February 17, 2020, 06:58:14 PM
Finished it. Loved it. Can’t wait for season 5.

A little bummed that they never showed what happened after Amos said “Thank you” in the brig.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 17, 2020, 07:13:44 PM
A little bummed that they never showed what happened after Amos said “Thank you” in the brig.

I think we know what happened.   :lol    Love Amos!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 06:47:35 AM
Okay, all caught up on The Expanse, both the TV show and all the books (so far). I'm really excited to see how they pull off season five. If they continue with each season being equal to each book, it shall be interesting to see fan response for non-book readers!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 03, 2020, 03:15:03 PM
Okay, all caught up on The Expanse, both the TV show and all the books (so far). I'm really excited to see how they pull off season five. If they continue with each season being equal to each book, it shall be interesting to see fan response for non-book readers!
Exactly!  I think on here me and you might be the only book guys.  Can't wait to see next season!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on March 03, 2020, 04:19:34 PM
CrimsonSunrise,

[not really spoilery, but I'm going to tiny text because some folks prefer it]

Do you think the TV series should end with book six? I think the last three books would be very difficult to pull off with the current batch of actors. I think they should end it there. The story is pretty complete at that point. Although, I will say that Tiamat's Wrath is probably my favorite of the series.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on March 12, 2020, 06:09:41 AM
CrimsonSunrise,

[not really spoilery, but I'm going to tiny text because some folks prefer it]


Great point!  Yeah, hollywood these days could probably age them all 30 years no sweat, but the story is pretty much wrapped up nicely after Babylon's Ashes.  I think they could easily stretch books 5 and 6 into 3 more seasons!  Then rest the series for say 5 years and return with a new cast or the same cast just aged.   Just waiting for the rocks to fall and the shit to hit the fan!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on March 15, 2020, 10:30:31 AM
Finished the new season. 

Holy crap!  I'm glad that Amazon picked this up!

Finally got around to the latest season and knocked it out in 2 days. Did not seem like 10 episodes at all, it's that good.

And, yeah, we all know what Amos did. Burn Gorman has a real knack for playing douchy characters you love to hate.

As much as some people might hate it, we need to thank Bezos for being such a fan that he pretty much made this shows continuation his own personal thing. The man can bankroll the rest of the series out of his own pocket and it would be pocket change to him.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 08, 2020, 08:37:45 PM
S5 December 16th  :metal

I’m mobile so I couldn’t snag the trailer and post it but it’s out there and it looks Awesome!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on October 08, 2020, 11:51:27 PM
Sweet, can't wait! One my absolute favourite shows.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 09, 2020, 09:52:20 AM
S5 Trailer:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caLji74IIp4



I just love how this show keeps the story moving and fresh.....it doesn't dwell too long and over stay it's appeal on themes/storylines etc etc.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 09, 2020, 11:43:32 AM
Yes, i'm ready!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on October 09, 2020, 01:12:19 PM
 :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: orcus116 on October 10, 2020, 03:32:10 PM
Hell yeah.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 14, 2020, 12:26:30 PM
(https://scontent.fmmx3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/121213047_1061391400984776_8448550051216045405_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=Miuap2ctXEYAX8s4J_h&_nc_ht=scontent.fmmx3-1.fna&oh=0742b552db1744fcc140f3efc5838eb2&oe=5FAC8200)
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on October 14, 2020, 05:50:36 PM
Yeah....... I got a lil chubby watching that  :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 15, 2020, 07:11:18 AM
For my money, The Expanse is the 'best' sci-fi themed show of the past decade. I am sooooooo happy this didn't die after season 3.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 15, 2020, 07:33:19 AM
For my money, The Expanse is the 'best' sci-fi themed show of the past decade. I am sooooooo happy this didn't die after season 3.

Yeah,  I'm a sci-fi geek and this show is in a class of its own. I liked the updated Battlestar Galactica a lot.....shows like Continuum and Travelers were cool. There are a few more that don't come to mind at the moment that I know I really liked but the Expanse is just the cream of the crop at the moment.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 15, 2020, 08:07:54 AM
For my money, The Expanse is the 'best' sci-fi themed show of the past decade. I am sooooooo happy this didn't die after season 3.

Yeah,  I'm a sci-fi geek and this show is in a class of its own. I liked the updated Battlestar Galactica a lot.....shows like Continuum and Travelers were cool. There are a few more that don't come to mind at the moment that I know I really liked but the Expanse is just the cream of the crop at the moment.

The cancellation of Travelers was such a bummer. I am so frustrated with Netflix as a whole—they are just way too cancel-happy for my taste. It's gotten to the point where I am reluctant to check out new shows bc I know it's just a matter of time. Amazon, on the other hand, seems comitted to at least giving shows a chance to develop.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 17, 2020, 01:20:41 PM
I actually watched the 1st Season of The Expanse, enjoyed it overall, although was hardly blown away.

I began the 2nd season but got too busy and/or occupied by other shows and have yet to go back to it.

I had a similar experience with Sense8, which especially given the creators, I should have not want to stop watching until I binged it all.

It doesn't help me though that I am totally alone in watching these shows per my wife never has cared much for any Scifi other than a little Star Trek/DS9 probably given her mom often had/has Heroes & Icons on in the evening with it when we lived with her over a year ago.

I guess my question being, does The Expanse get *that* much better after Season 1 that it will be rewarding enough for me to try and make the time for it? A large part of not going on with it is lack of time (life happens, medical, pets, house/car related things, etc, and my wife and I do trivia or watch documentaries, music/dj streams and certain shows together in our free time).
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on October 20, 2020, 08:12:00 AM
I actually watched the 1st Season of The Expanse, enjoyed it overall, although was hardly blown away.

I began the 2nd season but got too busy and/or occupied by other shows and have yet to go back to it.

I had a similar experience with Sense8, which especially given the creators, I should have not want to stop watching until I binged it all.

It doesn't help me though that I am totally alone in watching these shows per my wife never has cared much for any Scifi other than a little Star Trek/DS9 probably given her mom often had/has Heroes & Icons on in the evening with it when we lived with her over a year ago.

I guess my question being, does The Expanse get *that* much better after Season 1 that it will be rewarding enough for me to try and make the time for it? A large part of not going on with it is lack of time (life happens, medical, pets, house/car related things, etc, and my wife and I do trivia or watch documentaries, music/dj streams and certain shows together in our free time).

In my opinion, the show really hits its stride in the second/third season. The fourth was amazing as well.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 20, 2020, 10:02:56 AM
I actually watched the 1st Season of The Expanse, enjoyed it overall, although was hardly blown away.

I began the 2nd season but got too busy and/or occupied by other shows and have yet to go back to it.

I had a similar experience with Sense8, which especially given the creators, I should have not want to stop watching until I binged it all.

It doesn't help me though that I am totally alone in watching these shows per my wife never has cared much for any Scifi other than a little Star Trek/DS9 probably given her mom often had/has Heroes & Icons on in the evening with it when we lived with her over a year ago.

I guess my question being, does The Expanse get *that* much better after Season 1 that it will be rewarding enough for me to try and make the time for it? A large part of not going on with it is lack of time (life happens, medical, pets, house/car related things, etc, and my wife and I do trivia or watch documentaries, music/dj streams and certain shows together in our free time).

In my opinion, the show really hits its stride in the second/third season. The fourth was amazing as well.

I agree. It's a show that just seems to continually get better. The story/plot/character development is always progressing....nothing stays stagnate and is always evolving.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 24, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
Expanse renewed for a 6th and FINAL season. I haven’t read the source material but it’s my understanding that the books are still ongoing?

Either way....with knowing there’s a last season I’m hopeful they have a plan.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: The Realm on November 24, 2020, 10:51:14 PM
No doubt there is lots to love about The Expanse - mainly the world building and realisation of the world on the screen (great special effects etc) and the story. However, there are also some pretty big negatives that drag it down. Some of the acting is extremely average and cringeworthy - Bobby especially although I like the character. On the other hand I cannot stand the Naomi character - not sure if it is the actress or the character but I really don't buy into some of the character decisions and also there is absolutely zero chemistry between her and Holden. Their relationship is just not believable at all. The Belter accents are also really laughable at times. The plot can also be overly complex but anyway looking forward to season 5 and 6.



Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on November 25, 2020, 12:12:04 AM
No doubt there is lots to love about The Expanse - mainly the world building and realisation of the world on the screen (great special effects etc) and the story. However, there are also some pretty big negatives that drag it down. Some of the acting is extremely average and cringeworthy - Bobby especially although I like the character. On the other hand I cannot stand the Naomi character - not sure if it is the actress or the character but I really don't buy into some of the character decisions and also there is absolutely zero chemistry between her and Holden. Their relationship is just not believable at all. The Belter accents are also really laughable at times. The plot can also be overly complex but anyway looking forward to season 5 and 6.
No way, Bobby is one of my favourites, and Naomi is great too.


Shame it'll be ending after 6 seasons but that's a good run still! I wonder if they'll be condensing down the remaining books into a more focused plot, or if they are just going to have a conclusion after the 6th and simply not adapt the final 3 books (which as I understand it are set 30 years after the end of book 6).
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ErHaO on November 25, 2020, 03:27:39 AM
I think the actress of Bobbie isn't very good at acting compared to the rest on screen, one of my main qualms as well. But I do like her arc/character so it isn't a big issue for me, and I got used to her acting after season 2.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 25, 2020, 07:42:30 AM
Expanse renewed for a 6th and FINAL season. I haven’t read the source material but it’s my understanding that the books are still ongoing?

Either way....with knowing there’s a last season I’m hopeful they have a plan.

This just made my day. I hate watching a show only to have the rug pulled out from under me (one of my main gripes with Netflix Originals and the way they just cancel content without warning).

Like, when doing a show like this, why not just greenlight it for 3 or 4 seasons from the get-go? How else do you expect a creative team to see through their vision? I get it...money, money, money, but shows like the Expanse are always playing to a niche audience anyways, so in this case, I'm happy that it was rescued after its first cancellation.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on November 25, 2020, 09:21:26 AM
Given the last three books take place decades later, I do wonder if the show will end on season 6/book 6, but with a tentative intention to do a 3-season run in like 10, 15, even 20 years time.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on November 25, 2020, 12:13:01 PM
Given the last three books take place decades later, I do wonder if the show will end on season 6/book 6, but with a tentative intention to do a 3-season run in like 10, 15, even 20 years time.

Interesting thought.

In your opinion knowing the source material can the show satisfyingly end with the end of S6 based off of end of Book 6? Or are those subsequent books/future years imperative to tell the full story?

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on November 25, 2020, 01:03:02 PM
Given the last three books take place decades later, I do wonder if the show will end on season 6/book 6, but with a tentative intention to do a 3-season run in like 10, 15, even 20 years time.

Interesting thought.

In your opinion knowing the source material can the show satisfyingly end with the end of S6 based off of end of Book 6? Or are those subsequent books/future years imperative to tell the full story?


Unfortunately I don't actually know the source material as I haven't read the books yet, I only know very big-picture overall-setting stuff. So honestly, I've no idea.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 25, 2020, 01:04:04 PM
No doubt there is lots to love about The Expanse - mainly the world building and realisation of the world on the screen (great special effects etc) and the story. However, there are also some pretty big negatives that drag it down. Some of the acting is extremely average and cringeworthy - Bobby especially although I like the character. On the other hand I cannot stand the Naomi character - not sure if it is the actress or the character but I really don't buy into some of the character decisions and also there is absolutely zero chemistry between her and Holden. Their relationship is just not believable at all. The Belter accents are also really laughable at times. The plot can also be overly complex but anyway looking forward to season 5 and 6.
I like the show alot but I have to admit both Bobby and the belter accent has been annoying me for along time and I agree about Naomi.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on November 25, 2020, 05:18:42 PM
I've read all the books.

In your opinion knowing the source material can the show satisfyingly end with the end of S6 based off of end of Book 6?

Yes.

Or are those subsequent books/future years imperative to tell the full story?

No, not to the story that started in the first book. However, if your deeply invested in the characters/politics of the solar system it's pretty essential and interesting story.

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And y'all are crazy about disrespecting the actress who plays Bobbie. She's perfect in every way.

The Belter slang they present in the show is exactly like in the books. They're just staying true to the source material. I wouldn't say it's good or bad, it's just another texture to the story. A rather authentic feeling texture, or so it seems to me.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on November 26, 2020, 01:32:42 AM
I've read all the books.

In your opinion knowing the source material can the show satisfyingly end with the end of S6 based off of end of Book 6?

Yes.

Or are those subsequent books/future years imperative to tell the full story?

No, not to the story that started in the first book. However, if your deeply invested in the characters/politics of the solar system it's pretty essential and interesting story.

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Interesting, well that sounds pretty encouraging then. Seems they could sensibly wrap up the show at that point, and then I guess it's up to them if they want to do a reboot later on to cover the final three books.


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And y'all are crazy about disrespecting the actress who plays Bobbie. She's perfect in every way.

The Belter slang they present in the show is exactly like in the books. They're just staying true to the source material. I wouldn't say it's good or bad, it's just another texture to the story. A rather authentic feeling texture, or so it seems to me.
Completely agreed with all of this and I haven't even read the books yet. I think Bobbie is awesome, and I think the Belter accent and Creole language adds a really engaging element to this fictional solar system.

I'm honestly not accusing anyone of anything, but I do feel slightly uncomfortable when the only things that get any real criticism are 1. foreign-sounding accents and 2. women of colour.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on November 26, 2020, 05:14:13 AM
I'm honestly not accusing anyone of anything, but I do feel slightly uncomfortable when the only things that get any real criticism are 1. foreign-sounding accents and 2. women of colour.

No shit. Right?! I wasn't going to say it...
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on November 26, 2020, 08:53:52 AM
I'm honestly not accusing anyone of anything, but I do feel slightly uncomfortable when the only things that get any real criticism are 1. foreign-sounding accents and 2. women of colour.

No shit. Right?! I wasn't going to say it...

I was thinking the exact same thing!

I think the accents/slang, and the female performances in general are brilliant. I LOVE how this show mines our own culture and then projects it into the future...not unlike the original Star Trek, the show serves as a brilliant analog for contemporary times, especially in regards to issues surrounding race and class.

I suspect how foreign the 'belter slang' sounds is directly proportional to how familiar one is with southern/Creole culture.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on November 26, 2020, 01:08:02 PM
Really? Sorry guys but I found that to be a bit low. That's not at all what I implied, I really want that to be clear. I just found the accent to be annoying and a bit over the top and we're talking about in the realm of a tv-show about acting and character portrayal, that can be subjective right?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ErHaO on November 27, 2020, 05:39:49 AM
Okay, hold on, I can't speak for the other guy, but acting talent has nothing to do with being a person of color. I think the actress of Bobbie isn't that good, the rest is, which in this show includes a wide variety of skin tones. And again, I like Bobbie's character and arc a lot, so it is isn't a big deal to me.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on November 30, 2020, 10:32:37 AM
Can't wait for season 5 to drop in a couple weeks!  Like mentioned, I see no problem with ending the series before the 30 yr jump, although I think they could pull it off.  I was just on the wiki page and saw an interesting stat.  I'm not a big Rotten Tomato guy, so I'm not sure how valid the ratings are.  Found the ratings pretty impressive though!

Rotten Tomato ratings

Season 1 - 77%
Season 2 - 95%
Season 4 - 100%
Season 4 - 100%
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 10, 2020, 10:50:00 PM
Authors say this is a pause after Season 6 and not a cancellation. Sounds like they plan on finishing this some time in the future. They also state that the 6 season arc was always one of the options so we aren't going to miss anything regarding their vision for the series.

https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/22167489/the-expanse-season-6-canceled-or-season-7-beyond-plans
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 11, 2020, 08:00:57 AM
Authors say this is a pause after Season 6 and not a cancellation. Sounds like they plan on finishing this some time in the future. They also state that the 6 season arc was always one of the options so we aren't going to miss anything regarding their vision for the series.

https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/22167489/the-expanse-season-6-canceled-or-season-7-beyond-plans
That's great to hear!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 11, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
Authors say this is a pause after Season 6 and not a cancellation. Sounds like they plan on finishing this some time in the future. They also state that the 6 season arc was always one of the options so we aren't going to miss anything regarding their vision for the series.

https://www.polygon.com/2020/12/10/22167489/the-expanse-season-6-canceled-or-season-7-beyond-plans
That's great to hear!

Yeah. That’s encouraging.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 14, 2020, 09:37:35 PM
Finished season 1 of this show and it was fantastic. Can't believe the production quality of the entire show, the sets, the whole future look of Earth, the ships and the entire solar system, so fantastic. I won't be able to catch up before season 5 starts but seeing as how they will go The Boys route with weekly episodes after the first 3 drop, might be a good thing to just wait until they all finish.

On to season 2!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 15, 2020, 08:55:35 PM
Just saw a tweet from the writers of The Expanse saying new episodes might have dropped early for the new season.

Oh, yep. First 3 episodes are live right now.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on December 15, 2020, 09:01:40 PM
We watched two episodes tonight!  :omg:
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on December 17, 2020, 09:32:38 AM
Damn!!!  I'm slackin!  Better get on it tonight!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 19, 2020, 12:00:49 AM
If this season was released all at once I’d still be watching. Those first three episodes are great!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on December 19, 2020, 05:11:15 AM
If this season was released all at once I’d still be watching. Those first three episodes are great!

They really are, but because I know what's coming, I get impatient. Three episodes in and I can't help but feel like they're still winding up...pitch the fucking ball already!   :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on December 19, 2020, 02:52:36 PM
Pretty sure I say this every season but damn I love this show so much.


If this season was released all at once I’d still be watching. Those first three episodes are great!

They really are, but because I know what's coming, I get impatient. Three episodes in and I can't help but feel like they're still winding up...pitch the fucking ball already!   :lol
For sure, but the way this show builds up big story arcs is one of the things I love about it. It's just compelling and engaging. I've not read the books yet so am not sure what's coming, but I can feel the tension growing and can't wait for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 23, 2020, 09:50:52 PM
Finished season 1 of this show and it was fantastic. Can't believe the production quality of the entire show, the sets, the whole future look of Earth, the ships and the entire solar system, so fantastic. I won't be able to catch up before season 5 starts but seeing as how they will go The Boys route with weekly episodes after the first 3 drop, might be a good thing to just wait until they all finish.

On to season 2!

And... I'm all caught up. What. A. Show! So surprised I never gave it a shot before, it's so cruel to wait a week between episodes esp with how each episode ends on pretty much a cliffhanger. What a ride the entire series has been so far.

That 4th episode of S5 was just phenomenal.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 24, 2020, 10:40:42 AM
Wow! Ep 4 was nuts! This show is awesome. I love how there is basically no wasted scene or dialogue......everything has it’s purpose and there is no ‘wasted’ screen time.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 24, 2020, 11:52:52 AM
Goddamn, I love this show more than i'm aware of I think. It just clicks with me on so many levels.  :tup
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on December 24, 2020, 01:55:23 PM
Completely the same with me, chaps. The only other shows I can think of that have completely immersed me so much on every level are Mr Robot and Battlestar Galactica.

And yeah, episode 4 was amazing. Completely gripping. And bummed that a certain character is dead.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 24, 2020, 04:10:42 PM
And bummed that a certain character is dead.

No kidding. That was shocking......just out of nowhere.


Who’s the chic Amos is visiting in prison? I’m drawing a blank if it’s someone who’s been introduced already.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 24, 2020, 05:46:54 PM
Julie Mao's sister. She was one of the main protagonist in season 3.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 24, 2020, 06:06:03 PM
Julie Mao's sister. She was one of the main protagonist in season 3.

That’s right....now I remember. Thanks!  :tup
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 24, 2020, 07:04:20 PM
I just binged season 3 and 4 in like 3 days so I'm quite aware of the characters.  ;D


This show is really top-notch with each subsequent season and grows larger in scale of production and story. Really gripping, I'm so glad I was able to binge the season and this wait for a new episode between weeks is agonizing esp after the last one.


I also like how the plots are structured each season, with season 4 I particularly loved the side plot with the infection and how it got resolved. Several little things like that makes it so appealing.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on December 25, 2020, 02:46:54 PM
Julie Mao's sister. She was one of the main protagonist in season 3.

That’s right....now I remember. Thanks!  :tup
Yeah, it always seemed like her story would come back so I'm glad it seems to be doing so.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 28, 2020, 09:16:21 AM
Caught up with episode 4 this morning.

Holy crap, this show continues to be excellent.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: DoctorAction on December 29, 2020, 02:04:37 AM
Just started season 1 a few days back. Only 4 episodes in but liking it a lot so far.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 29, 2020, 09:48:08 PM
Season 5 Episode 5 was great! a bit scaled back from the previous episode but still such an entertaining ride. I love the duo of Amos and Peaches.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 29, 2020, 09:57:30 PM
Season 5 Episode 5 was great! a bit scaled back from the previous episode but still such an entertaining ride. I love the duo of Amos and Peaches.

Yeah. I felt this way about Mr. Robot. There’s just not much else you can say other than this show is just really freaking good.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 31, 2020, 07:05:24 AM
Episode 5: another great episode.  This show delivers much better than the Post Office.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on December 31, 2020, 09:07:08 AM
I just love Amos lowkey humor.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 31, 2020, 10:21:36 AM
I just love Amos lowkey humor.

Amos is a great character.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 31, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
I just love Amos lowkey humor.

Amos is a great character.
My favorite on the show.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 06, 2021, 07:41:07 AM
Another good episode.  SHOCKER
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 06, 2021, 07:50:04 AM
I love how much character development they're giving Amos this season so far. His scenes with Peaches are the highlight this season for me. This episode was very character driven and is what I love most about any show when they focus on those.  Drummer, Amos and Bobby are probably my favorite characters on the show and this episode had great scenes with them. I like how Holden is taking more of a back seat role this season by the looks of it so far. He was center stage for season 4 and it was probably his best.

Very curious on this Drummer - Marco trade and setup. Just four more episodes now.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 08, 2021, 08:54:24 AM
I just love Amos lowkey humor.

Amos is a great character.

If you haven't already watched it, Amos aka Wes Chatham hosts an aftershow on the Amazon Prime youtube channel and brings on some of the cast, writers, creators and directors on it. I haven't watched a lot but some of them are really fun.

The last episode  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynyCMXijTig&ab_channel=AmazonPrimeVideo)had Drummer and Marco on.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on January 08, 2021, 01:19:49 PM
Drummer, Amos and Bobby are probably my favorite characters on the show and this episode had great scenes with them.
Fuck yeah, mine too!

The very end of this episode was a great moment. All the stuff that Amos has been going through this season, and then doing what he needed to survive in this episode - it all felt natural and reasonable. But then when Clarissa/Peaches challenged him on it, I really liked how his immediate reaction was "What would Holden do?" as Holden has become his barometer for what a good person is. And then realising that he needs to get back to his crew - I took that as essentially feeling like he needs to get back to his moral compass.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 08, 2021, 04:46:29 PM
Drummer, Amos and Bobby are probably my favorite characters on the show and this episode had great scenes with them.
Fuck yeah, mine too!

The very end of this episode was a great moment. All the stuff that Amos has been going through this season, and then doing what he needed to survive in this episode - it all felt natural and reasonable. But then when Clarissa/Peaches challenged him on it, I really liked how his immediate reaction was "What would Holden do?" as Holden has become his barometer for what a good person is. And then realising that he needs to get back to his crew - I took that as essentially feeling like he needs to get back to his moral compass.

Yeah. That was awesome. His self awareness there was powerful.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 13, 2021, 06:59:26 AM
Another character driven episode, however a couple of the space battle scenes were amazing. The SFX on this show is always so amazing. Only wish for the episode was they had some Amos and Drummer in it but really not complaining..

This episode was all about the family Marco, Philip and Naomi and man was it good. Of course they had to end the episode with a cliffhanger. Setting up for some real epic showdowns.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 13, 2021, 08:26:05 AM
Another character driven episode, however a couple of the space battle scenes were amazing. The SFX on this show is always so amazing. Only wish for the episode was they had some Amos and Drummer in it but really not complaining..

This episode was all about the family Marco, Philip and Naomi and man was it good. Of course they had to end the episode with a cliffhanger. Setting up for some real epic showdowns.

Yep. Another solid episode. You have to think that Philip is going to eventually be the one to take down Marco but who knows? That battle scene was pretty cool....and as you said, the SFX on the show remain some of if not the best space SFX out there for a show, much less a blockbuster movie.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 13, 2021, 10:35:02 AM
Another character driven episode, however a couple of the space battle scenes were amazing. The SFX on this show is always so amazing. Only wish for the episode was they had some Amos and Drummer in it but really not complaining..

This episode was all about the family Marco, Philip and Naomi and man was it good. Of course they had to end the episode with a cliffhanger. Setting up for some real epic showdowns.

Yep. Another solid episode. You have to think that Philip is going to eventually be the one to take down Marco but who knows? That battle scene was pretty cool....and as you said, the SFX on the show remain some of if not the best space SFX out there for a show, much less a blockbuster movie.
Yea it really is great quality for being a TV-show. I'm not sure what kind of budget this show has but I can't imagine it's THAT crazy which makes it even more impressive I feel.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 19, 2021, 08:31:20 PM
Have to say I was not expecting pissing buddies to be that literal. I could use more of these episodes to be honest. It gives so much depth and background and whatever happens in the next two episodes, I'm sure it would have earned it because of the character driven episodes. Down to the final two.


Oh and Naomi was great.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 20, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
Have to say I was not expecting pissing buddies to be that literal. I could use more of these episodes to be honest. It gives so much depth and background and whatever happens in the next two episodes, I'm sure it would have earned it because of the character driven episodes. Down to the final two.


Oh and Naomi was great.

It speaks volumes about a show when your 'main' character (Holden) has had all of a total of maybe 15 minutes on screen so far this season and yet the ancillary characters manage to capture the spirit and vibe of the show and keep it interesting and moving forward.

Not that I think the others aren't 'main' characters but for quite some time Holden has been 'the' character that the show seems to center on....until this season where he's taken a back seat and these other characters are really driving the show.....in a good way.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 20, 2021, 05:50:58 PM
Yeah I'm loving the fact that they put Holden on the back seat this season. He was upfront all of last season and I thought it was his character's best, but they've really struck the balance this time round with the other characters pushing them more in the center of the action. I'm all for it.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on January 21, 2021, 03:50:37 PM
Gotta say, and I'm a huge fan, that wasn't my favorite episode.  Kinda slow and they really dragged out the whole Naiomi scenario.  Still loving the season so far.  In all fairness, most or the Marco storyline in the books wasn't my favorite either.  Except when he tossed the rocks.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 26, 2021, 08:34:29 PM
Great episode again, so much going on this episode it seemed. The way this season has been paced though I do think it should've been longer because there are so many character driven episodes and they've given a lot of backstory and depth to some of the side characters that it feels it could easily have been 13 episodes or more. I get the sense that the finale will leave a lot of stuff hanging and it will continue right into season six. Either way I'm eagerly awaiting the season finale.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 27, 2021, 08:33:50 AM
Can't wait to see how they round this season out. I agree that there seems to be too many storylines going on for them to be able to tidy them up in one final episode.....seems to me they'll certainly carry over.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 27, 2021, 09:09:23 AM
Can't wait to see how they round this season out. I agree that there seems to be too many storylines going on for them to be able to tidy them up in one final episode.....seems to me they'll certainly carry over.

I think it's a given at this point. My theory is that season 5 & 6 are to be closely tied together which 6 will then close out all major arcs with Marco and then end with an epilogue of sorts.
If I read correctly, season 6 and its equivalent book ends conclusively and the next book(s) start the timeline 30 years into the future. The status of the show being that it is ending with season 6 or on pause (who knows?) might allow for it to end on a high note next season.

Also apart from season 4 which was self-contained, each season prior has sorta spilled over to the next.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 27, 2021, 10:31:49 AM
Can't wait to see how they round this season out. I agree that there seems to be too many storylines going on for them to be able to tidy them up in one final episode.....seems to me they'll certainly carry over.

I think it's a given at this point. My theory is that season 5 & 6 are to be closely tied together which 6 will then close out all major arcs with Marco and then end with an epilogue of sorts.
If I read correctly, season 6 and its equivalent book ends conclusively and the next book(s) start the timeline 30 years into the future. The status of the show being that it is ending with season 6 or on pause (who knows?) might allow for it to end on a high note next season.

Also apart from season 4 which was self-contained, each season prior has sorta spilled over to the next.

Very true. I can't imagine that this show will disappoint with how they end things. I have read that it's not 'cancelled' per say after S6....only that...as you stated....with the way the books are written they are taking an undetermined amount of time off from the show. That'd be neat for them to revisit the show in a few years to start back up 30 years later....but if they don't then oh well.

I think once the show is over I'll actually read the book series.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 27, 2021, 10:53:06 AM

I think once the show is over I'll actually read the book series.


Same here, I think there is only one book left to be released, I plan on reading them all once done.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 27, 2021, 11:39:52 AM
Think of season five as "how we got here", and season six as "what we do about it." That is, if it stays true to the books which it certainly appears to be true. It's more than a setup season, because of the growth and progression of characters, but probably won't leave folks satisfied, IMO.

As far as reading the books, I recommend them highly but they really don't tell a different story than the show. Sure, you get some individual book characters who are kinda smooshed into one show character, but essential the story is identical. I don't see that as a bad thing, but if your expectation is get a lot more detail, and exposition from the books (say like with Song of Ice and Fire compared to GoT) you might be disappointed. The one exception, for me anyway, is the novella The Churn. If you want to know bunch more about Amos/Timmy then you should get it right away. It's inexpensive, a short read, and super good.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 27, 2021, 12:00:10 PM
That's good to know, I'm perfectly fine if the finale is going the way of the last few episodes as they've been the most character-driven episodes of the show yet and I've loved every bit of it no matter how slow they've been. It does make sense if the show is coming to a conclusion next season to set up all the arcs now.

I think I will still read the books and all the little short novels that are out.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 27, 2021, 12:06:24 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 02, 2021, 08:47:48 PM
Goddamn was there a lot to unpack that finale esp in the last 10 mins. I was dreading they would end the season with me wanting more, such a tease! I think all in all that episode had a ton of stuff packed in, it might have been the most unevenly paced episode with way too much going on when compared to the previous slow burn episodes. So many good things, going to have to mull it over...
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 02, 2021, 08:55:10 PM
I enjoyed it but I think the exit of Kamal’s character seemed a bit patched in. Understandable, but I wish circumstances would have given them a better out. Too bad.

The rest of the episode was awesome and what I expected.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 02, 2021, 09:06:27 PM
I thought the same, I was hoping it wouldn't have been so abrupt but I guess it was the best move forward. Someone found behind the scenes pictures of Cas in the scenes at Luna, so they had to have done some reshoots for sure. They also made an observation about how the uneven pace of the last few episodes was probably due to editing out much of Cas' storyline. I think that makes sense, they must've had to shuffle a few things around which is why he lingered in that ship for so long between episodes and was barely there in many episodes. Either way the wait for the next/final(?) season is going to be very long.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 02, 2021, 10:29:13 PM
Loved the season.....just a really good show. I had no idea about the Cas/Alex thing.....looked it up and that’s pretty creepy if true. Dude treating fan events like his own feeder brothel. It’s a shame. The character Alex ‘deserved’ better but I understand them wanting to cut ties. I couldn’t believe how abrupt it was in the show and for a moment I thought my video had glitches or something and I missed a scene.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on February 03, 2021, 10:35:38 AM
Holy shit, that was awesome.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2021, 10:48:49 AM
Question for the non-book readers. How much sense did the closing moments of the episode make to you? Mrs. P was looking at me like, "What the actual...?"
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 03, 2021, 11:11:03 AM
I have to admit I had zero clue what happened and figured it would be revealed in the next season which is why I was dreading they would end the season in such a cliff hanger way.

I did find a comment online that referenced a scene from early this season where Holden actually talked to Fred about it and they play a simulation which I suppose gives it a little bit more context. But truth be told I'm not trying to dig in more about it, I think I just want to rewatch the whole season again and catch up on references I must have missed.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 03, 2021, 12:02:52 PM
Gregg.....I’m in line with faizoff. I just figured it’s something that will be fleshed out in S6. I assumed it was showing us what happens when you go through the rings on a molecular level? It was just a really advanced depiction of all the physical matter transferring to whichever realm of the universe the ring takes you to.

Then the ship reveal at the end was tough to speculate as well. It did look like it was waking up more? Who knows? I mean, I guess book readers know but I just assume it’ll be revealed in time.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2021, 03:10:17 PM
Yeah, the flashy orange effect should be nonsensical at this point.

What I was more driving at was the relationship between Inaros (especially his comment to Philip that this was all his creation), the MCRN renegades, the communique between the MCRN Captain and the scientist somewhere on a distant planet, and finally his conversation with the woman that Alex had the date with earlier in the season. Was all this made clear to most of the viewers was really my question. It all seemed to go by a bit quickly.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on February 03, 2021, 03:49:32 PM
Yeah, the flashy orange effect should be nonsensical at this point.

What I was more driving at was the relationship between Inaros (especially his comment to Philip that this was all his creation), the MCRN renegades, the communique between the MCRN Captain and the scientist somewhere on a distant planet, and finally his conversation with the woman that Alex had the date with earlier in the season. Was all this made clear to most of the viewers was really my question. It all seemed to go by a bit quickly.

What I took from it was as follows.

Inaros and the rogue Martians led by Sauvaterre and Babbage had a pact where Inaros's Free Navy takes control of the ring, and therefore all the systems beyond it (sort of, let Earth and Mars keep the Sol system, we'll have the rest), and Sauvaterre's purist Martians would start again in one of the other systems (Laconia or something) with the proto-molecule which Inaros gave them and which Cortazar was already experimenting with.

Then when actually passing out of the ring into that new system, something weird happened where they froze and it looked like they were disintegrating. No idea what that means yet - the freezing was like what the Ring had done to other ships originally, the orange distintegaty effect was kind of like what happened on Venus earlier on in the show. From your post, I gather that we're not supposed to know what it means yet though.

Is there anything else we're supposed to have picked up?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2021, 04:05:33 PM
No that's it, other than Admiral Duarte being mentioned as waiting for them on Laconia.

It appears that that sequence was less fuzzy than I thought. Well done Rich.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on February 03, 2021, 04:26:14 PM
Duarte isn't someone we've seen in the show yet though, is he? The name didn't mean anything to me but that whole segment felt very much like a set up for the next season.

Anyway I thought the episode (and indeed the season) was amazing, and I didn't find the end fuzzy at all. Quite the opposite actually, I found the conversation between Sauveterre (no idea if I'm spelling that right or even the same as last time I typed it :lol) and Babbage finally explained why a faction of Martians has been siding with Inaros, which has been a question all season. The show does require concentration to really follow what's going on though, I just find it worth that effort. The narrative and characterisation is fantastic and really memorable as a result - there's very little fluff or tangents that don't go anywhere.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2021, 04:39:59 PM
Duarte isn't someone we've seen in the show yet though, is he? The name didn't mean anything to me but that whole segment felt very much like a set up for the next season.

No, he's not been in the show. He was only mentioned briefly by the mad scientist, who's name I forget, and by Sauveterre himself. It's not really important other than to show that there was a power mind behind the apparent power mind of Sauveterre. Honestly, I'd be surprised if they got to Duarte next season.

Anyway I thought the episode (and indeed the season) was amazing, and I didn't find the end fuzzy at all. Quite the opposite actually, I found the conversation between Sauveterre (no idea if I'm spelling that right or even the same as last time I typed it :lol) and Babbage finally explained why a faction of Martians has been siding with Inaros, which has been a question all season. The show does require concentration to really follow what's going on though, I just find it worth that effort. The narrative and characterisation is fantastic and really memorable as a result - there's very little fluff or tangents that don't go anywhere.

Yes, quite amazing! I was still kind of reeling from the short, sharp, shock of how they wrote Kamal out of the show...as was Mrs. P. That probably explains why I thought the ending went by a bit fast.  :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on February 03, 2021, 04:54:58 PM
I actually thought they did a great job with Anvar's departure. I wasn't sure they'd have had time/capacity to do reshoots and figured they'd just deal with it at the start of next season, but fair play to them. The death itself was a bit sudden and didn't have any direct build up, but as a non-book reader it felt natural enough with the character arc Alex had been on this season. And the way they dealt with it after, focusing on the reactions of the surviving characters and some little tributes to Alex but not going overboard felt really well balanced considering the reasons why Anvar had to leave.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 03, 2021, 05:52:49 PM
I was expecting them to write the character out in the off season as well. I suppose this way is better though, now they don’t need to waist time next season on him. Any guesses on who becomes the pilot? Bull, maybe?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 03, 2021, 07:02:24 PM
I think they pretty much setup Bull to be the pilot now. With the obvious focus on him drinking from Kamal's coffee cup lol.

ariich summed it up as well, I did get that setup with Inaros and the Martians, like I mentioned in one of my comments, it was a LOT of stuff packed in that episode. It was a great finale and even with the somewhat weird and abrupt ending of Kamal's arc they did as best circumstances would allow I suppose. The pacing of the last few episodes was definitely a bit off and I'm convinced it was somewhat related to Anvar's departure. The behind the scenes photos with Kamal celebrating with the crew in the end and crew reunion are a bit uncanny to see, I'm sure there were reshoots and some very creative editing and VFX involved.

That said I think I'll rewatch the season very soon. I felt this season more than others was very dense with information.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on February 03, 2021, 07:36:49 PM
I think they pretty much setup Bull to be the pilot now. With the obvious focus on him drinking from Kamal's coffee cup lol.

ariich summed it up as well, I did get that setup with Inaros and the Martians, like I mentioned in one of my comments, it was a LOT of stuff packed in that episode. It was a great finale and even with the somewhat weird and abrupt ending of Kamal's arc they did as best circumstances would allow I suppose. The pacing of the last few episodes was definitely a bit off and I'm convinced it was somewhat related to Anvar's departure. The behind the scenes photos with Kamal celebrating with the crew in the end and crew reunion are a bit uncanny to see, I'm sure there were reshoots and some very creative editing and VFX involved.

That said I think I'll rewatch the season very soon. I felt this season more than others was very dense with information.

With only one season left and the fact we’re ‘familiar’ with Bull now, I imagine that he will be the pilot now. It’d be a tall order to introduce someone new and have the viewers buy in on them. With Bull we’ve gotten to know his character a bit and I think it’ll be an easy transition. Although, I had an underlying feeling all season that he was ‘up’ to something and that he was out to get Holden the whole time. He just had that look.

I agree that the odd pacing of some of the episodes would seemingly have to do with them re-editing and re-shooting scenes with  Cas/Alex. Had this happened in a normal setting and not the COVID environment.....I wonder if the re-shoots would have been more extensive? Either way....they salvaged it pretty good and I don’t think it was a very big detriment to the enjoyment of the season. It’s more of just a bummer because the character of Alex was pretty cool.....apparently the actor not so much.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 03, 2021, 07:45:49 PM
Agreed! I loved the character of Alex, he had great chemistry with the rest of the cast and esp Amos I thought. I'm hoping the last season is on track with filming and production to premiere late this year. Definitely have to do a rewatch of the series sometime.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on February 06, 2021, 12:50:06 AM
What a great season finale!!! 

SPOILER -  if you want to read books don't read the below....

I didn't think I could be shocked with this show, having read the books.  So when they killed Alex off I was like...WTF!!!!!   Then I heard about the actors sexual harrasment allegations.  I'm not sure why they didn't just recast him.  He is such an integral part of the Roci 4 family.  I mean hell, they re-cast Arjun already.


Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 06, 2021, 05:39:45 AM
What a great season finale!!! 

SPOILER -  if you want to read books gon't read the below....

I didn't think I could be shocked with this show, having read the books.  So when they killed Alex off I was like...WTF!!!!!   Then I heard about the actors sexual harrasment allegations.  I'm not sure why they didn't just recast him.  He is such an integral part of the Roci 4 family.  I mean hell, they re-cast Arjun already.

Exactly. That's what I was expecting, considering the timing of when the allegations came out in relation to the production.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 06, 2021, 05:40:34 AM
It almost feels like everyday business to write off characters these days and extra points if you do it smoothly. Just move along...nothing to see here...

I really enjoyed his character.  :-\
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: DoctorAction on February 06, 2021, 04:07:52 PM
Just finished season 5. Have binged it harder than anything else we've ever watched, I think. Have stayed away from this thread as didn't want to know anything in advance but, fuck, what a great show! So impressed.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on February 09, 2021, 09:06:58 PM
Just sucks there's no episode tonight, lol. I need to rewatch the last season soon. The wait for the new/final season is going to be long.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on February 10, 2021, 06:58:50 AM
Just sucks there's no episode tonight, lol. I need to rewatch the last season soon. The wait for the new/final season is going to be long.
Honestly I actually forgot the finale was last week and was looking forward to a new episode today.  :-\

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on February 10, 2021, 07:00:55 AM
Funny you guys should say that. Mrs. P and I have been watching 2 - 3 episodes per night since last Friday--started at 01:01  :)
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: WilliamMunny on February 10, 2021, 07:40:16 AM
A solid season for sure, and while I was bummed (shocked) to see Alex go out the way he did, considering everything that's come out, I get it.

I suspect they will try to fill his 'slot' with another character, but regardless of the allegations, Cas Anvar really owned that role. Such a shame. That being said, I got over Thomas Jane's exit, so I'm sure I'll get over this.

Season 5 will probably go down as my second favorite season (right behind the debut)—it was tight, well paced, and incredibly compelling from start to finish. The best part? It felt like it was merely building up to something even greater!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on February 10, 2021, 04:03:15 PM
Nerdist wrote a pretty good analysis of how they handled Anvar's exit/Alex's death, I agree with basically all of it: https://nerdist.com/article/the-expanse-alex-kamal-cas-anvar-exit/
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on September 05, 2021, 09:29:35 PM
Finally got around to watching Season 5. Did 8 yesterday and the last 2 today. I know, way behind.

The flashy orange things are what Holden showed to Fred in his office. He made mention that he believed them to be the entities that created the proto-molicule and they seem to be waking up with every misstep the humans are making. My take is they woke up and essentially wiped that MCRN ship from existence. They will most likely be the baddies in the final season. Not to mention, towards the very end of the credits you saw their ship start to light up with that proto-molicule glow.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on October 08, 2021, 12:37:45 PM
Final season (for now at least) premiers on Amazon on December 10.

It will apparently only have six episodes. I'm really hoping they're able to wrap storylines with that few number of episodes.

They released a teaser today which I haven't watched and won't until the season is done.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on October 08, 2021, 12:46:53 PM
Hopefully those are full hour 6 episodes.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on October 09, 2021, 10:59:23 PM
I just finished Cobra Kai, and with a lack of Network shows my wife and I watch now, I may find the time/motivation to resume watching this show again (and maybe Sense8 if it's still available online).
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2021, 06:40:57 AM
I've had this show sitting in my list for eons, but just haven't had the time to prioritize it.  Gotta change that.  I'm so tired of new shows getting cancelled after 1 "season"* - especially when they end on a cliffhanger.  Knowing there are 6 seasons to this gives a reason to get around to it.  Question... mrs.jingle isn't much of a sci-fi fan; is this show more sci-fi, or more storyline/drama driven?

*and it also pisses me off that a "season" nowadays is 12-18 episodes.  I miss the days when it was 25.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on October 11, 2021, 06:51:05 AM
It's a good mixture of both, but the initial seasons is heavy on the storyline and drama because. There are several characters and places so it takes a bit to get familiar with all characters and their locations and how they connect. It does have a nice dose of sci-fi that is relatively grounded. 1st season is slow but has a great payoff, and then later seasons take off really well.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ariich on October 11, 2021, 07:26:09 AM
Um, yeah it's definitely both. But the world-building does mean that it takes a bit of time to really settle into the characters and their dynamics.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 09, 2021, 09:19:35 PM
Launched Prime Video on my Roku to find something to watch and it says I have The Expanse to watch. It was right. Watching first episode of S06 now.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 09, 2021, 09:57:27 PM
Just got done with it and it was a good setup, sad there are only 5 more episodes left. Probably why we only got one episode tonight and not a 3 episode drop as has happened last couple of times.

I'd also check the bonus content on the Amazon X-ray layout. It has an extra scene of sorts labelled episode 1 (of what I don't know) which gives additional context to some of the episode setting.

All in all great start, five more to wind down the series.


Opening scene was pretty cool. Had a little of Jurassic Park 2 vibes.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: jammindude on December 13, 2021, 05:31:55 PM
Like I said in the “shows you are now watching“ thread, I’m kind of trying to steer clear of this thread at the moment because when season five came out it had been so long since season four that we were actually lost for the first couple of episodes. Now that season six is out, we don’t wanna be lost again because it seems like forever since we watched season five. So we are just starting over completely from the beginning of season one. We are eight episodes in and it’s a really good refresher course. I don’t want to even start season six until I’ve binge watched the first five again. I just missed way too much.

I’m probably having about 3-4 “oooohhh yeeaaaahh, that’s right! I forgot about that!” moments per episode. But it’s still fun because I can never remember exactly what happens until it actually does happen.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 18, 2021, 10:35:45 PM
What a kickass 2nd episode. The opening scenes are certainly intriguing, wonder how it will tie up to the main plot. Reminds me of what Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul did in the setups for the season. Also really enjoying the bonus mini episodes on Prime X-ray.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on December 19, 2021, 12:13:37 PM
I resumed watching this show and Sense8 a couple of weeks ago..

I got so consumed by Sense8, i've put The Expanse on hold until I'm finished with Sense8 (it also didn't help with both the new Matrix movie and news of the Babylon 5 reboot).

I will say, the 3 episodes in the 2nd season I've watched, i'm starting to warm up a little to the story, politics, social conflicts more and the characters. I am still down a bit about the fact the Miller character eventually leaves the show, but I assume despite that, the show gets good enough, it doesn't matter.

I'm on episode 18 of Sense8 and it only goes 24 episodes (23, and then 1-year later they made a 2-hour special series finale). So likely in the next week or 2, I'll finish it up and then intend to start binging The Expanse at that point, and hopefully can catch up before Season 6 is concluded its initial uploads, whenver that is? January? February?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on December 19, 2021, 02:37:09 PM
What a kickass 2nd episode. The opening scenes are certainly intriguing, wonder how it will tie up to the main plot. Reminds me of what Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul did in the setups for the season. Also really enjoying the bonus mini episodes on Prime X-ray.

Yep. very curious as to how that will tie into the story....especially with only four episodes left.

The show continues to be pretty great....never disappointed with it. Sad it's coming to an end but glad it's been a heck of a series.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: DoctorAction on December 20, 2021, 12:18:23 AM
The guy playing Marco is so good. The way he's kind of trembling with his own magnificence is great. And the heavy accent too. Could be way too hammy but he's great to watch.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 20, 2021, 09:41:50 AM
First two episodes of the season have been really nice.

Hard to believe there are only 4 episodes left.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on December 26, 2021, 09:45:23 AM
So I watched the third episode of season 6 last night. This season is moving a lot slower than I expected. We're halfway through, and there seems like a lot to go. I keep thinking that Philip will turn on Marco, but then something happens to make me doubt it. One thing is clear, Marco does not care about his people at all. He proved that last in this episode. He's just a full on wannabe dictator.

Also wondering what the endgame is with this ongoing story that opens each episode.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 27, 2021, 11:38:51 AM
Loved the third episode.

Hated that Holden disarmed the missile.  Fuck that kid.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on December 27, 2021, 01:50:28 PM
Loved the third episode.

Hated that Holden disarmed the missile.  Fuck that kid.

I thought it was brilliant for a couple of reasons...not the least because now Inaros is a failure instead of a martyr!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: hefdaddy42 on December 27, 2021, 01:55:24 PM
Loved the third episode.

Hated that Holden disarmed the missile.  Fuck that kid.

I thought it was brilliant for a couple of reasons...not the least because now Inaros is a failure instead of a martyr!
I know, I get that, but fuck that kid.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on December 27, 2021, 02:03:50 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 27, 2021, 10:44:37 PM
Shit what an awful way to leave us hanging with that opening sequence! though I think I know where it's heading. The spaceship dogfights have been really entertaining, probably gearing up for another one with Drummer next episode.


Edit: That mini bonus episode was excellent as well, love these little interactions.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on December 30, 2021, 06:26:17 PM
Episode 4 out now, served as a stop gap episode I'm assuming for the last two. A lot of conversation revolving the previous episode's actions. I'll admit I have no clue how things are going to go down even with just two more episodes remaining, at times it seems like a lot more ground needs to be covered, at times it doesn't. I'm confident they'll be able to wrap this up. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 02, 2022, 10:56:03 AM
I'm going to give this another try. Watched the first 2 episodes sans distractions, and I think I may finally be into it.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 02, 2022, 12:35:59 PM
I'm going to give this another try. Watched the first 2 episodes sans distractions, and I think I may finally be into it.

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed RJ. It’s a really well done show. I think I you’ll be pleasantly surprised with it.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 02, 2022, 02:19:10 PM
I'm going to give this another try. Watched the first 2 episodes sans distractions, and I think I may finally be into it.

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed RJ. It’s a really well done show. I think I you’ll be pleasantly surprised with it.

Ep7 now... I'm all in  :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 02, 2022, 03:00:52 PM
I'm going to give this another try. Watched the first 2 episodes sans distractions, and I think I may finally be into it.

I don’t think you’ll be disappointed RJ. It’s a really well done show. I think I you’ll be pleasantly surprised with it.

Nice! I’m super jealous! It’s such a fun ride!

Ep7 now... I'm all in  :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 03, 2022, 08:26:01 PM
God this show is intense. I'm at the part where Eros just moved out of the way of the Navou colliding with it. Wtaf?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 06, 2022, 08:47:56 PM
One more episode left for the series to end, interesting setup and am very curious about the overall tie-in of the opening story arc. The bonus episode had a nice throwback to Holden's backstory.

I think the series finale is the only extended episode around 1 1/2 hrs. Should be a fun ride.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 06, 2022, 10:41:42 PM
Yikes...better check out of this thread till I'm caught up...at the end of S2 now...see you all in a month or so
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 07, 2022, 05:34:57 AM
One more episode left for the series to end, interesting setup and am very curious about the overall tie-in of the opening story arc. The bonus episode had a nice throwback to Holden's backstory.

I think the series finale is the only extended episode around 1 1/2 hrs. Should be a fun ride.

I wouldn't expect a tie-in at all. The Pet Sematary story is its own thing.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 10, 2022, 07:50:25 PM
Season 3, episode 12. Still excellent.


I'm falling really hard for Drummer.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 10, 2022, 08:11:36 PM
Season 3, episode 12. Still excellent.


I'm falling really hard for Drummer.


She's one of the best characters in that show. She, Bobby, and Amos are probably my top 3 favorites.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 10, 2022, 08:16:49 PM
Season 3, episode 12. Still excellent.


I'm falling really hard for Drummer.


She's one of the best characters in that show. She, Bobby, and Amos are probably my top 3 favorites.

Actually really fond of Chrisjen as well. That was one hell of a finish to season 3, great midpoint for the series overall. Hoping to be caught up in 2 weeks or so. This is getting close to Battlestar level of amazing
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 10, 2022, 08:20:31 PM
Season 3 finale, if you can't tell sorta ends like a series finale. Reason for that was they got cancelled by SyFy and had no idea if the show would get picked up. Amazon came to their rescue and gave 3 more seasons. Though they did shorten season 6 to just 6 episodes.


Edit: seems like a few words got chopped.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 10, 2022, 08:24:35 PM
Ahhhhhh, that explains a lot.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2022, 08:54:56 PM
Season 3, episode 12. Still excellent.


I'm falling really hard for Drummer.


She's one of the best characters in that show. She, Bobby, and Amos are probably my top 3 favorites.

Actually really fond of Chrisjen as well. That was one hell of a finish to season 3, great midpoint for the series overall. Hoping to be caught up in 2 weeks or so. This is getting close to Battlestar level of amazing

I had a hunch you’d dig it. It’s so well done and the story just continues to grow……great character development and the production is top notch.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 10, 2022, 08:56:30 PM
Season 3 finale, if you can't tell sorta ends like a series finale. Reason for that was they got cancelled by SyFy and had no idea if the show would get picked up. Amazon came to their rescue and gave 3 more seasons. Though they did shorten season 6 to just 6 episodes.


Edit: seems like a few words got chopped.

Which is baffling because it was SyFy’s top rated show…..I think ever at the time.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 10, 2022, 09:09:22 PM
Yeah it's rough when that happens. I think it has happened to other shows mostly Netflix ones. They become too expensive to justify continuing.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 13, 2022, 06:26:52 PM
Perfect! Absolutely perfect. I can’t believe they told the story so completely in just 6 episodes and I even threw in the strange dog’s novella to boot. I’m in awe!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 13, 2022, 07:45:15 PM
Nice way to end the series.  Can someone remind me about the ring activation again? is that the same thing that happens in the finale of season 5 with the ship that goes in the ring?

I will need to do a rewatch of the series, it's so dense with things I haven't fully connected. It should be a very fun rewatch. I really hope they get a chance to make the rest of the series. If not then I can live with this being the final end for the show. I'll just pick up the books at some point and go from there.


Edit: Also what's happening with the ring during the end credits?
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2022, 06:46:39 AM
Excellent ending to a fantastic series! Honestly, EXPANSE is up there with shows like Mr. Robot, Travelers, Mr. In Between, Breaking Bad...I know there are a few more I can't think of right now....but it's up there with shows that ended pretty much perfectly. This was a great show that I'll probably let marinate a few years then re-watch.


And I still am unsure as to what the F was happening in that off world side story as far as the kid, 'dogs'....and the military deal being built in space. I know it was protomolecule related but it was a fuzzy storyline.

Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 14, 2022, 07:00:26 AM
I was reading that the story with Laconia is more of a setup for the last 3 books/seasons. It does have some tie-ins with Marco and forming a kind of alliance as that one scene in the finale showed.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 14, 2022, 07:11:35 AM
And I still am unsure as to what the F was happening in that off world side story as far as the kid, 'dogs'....and the military deal being built in space. I know it was protomolecule related but it was a fuzzy storyline.

Think of it as laying the groundwork for the future. Duarte and his followers in the Laconia System (who were supporting Inaros with tech...until they felt like they didn't need him to keep the Sol System busy anymore) are building their military utopia with the protomolecule as the nucleus. Several decades pass before they are heard from again. The strange dogs story is just a little ditty that illustrates unintended consequences for Laconia.

If they ever decide to tell that story, they'll have the background established.

Can someone remind me about the ring activation again? is that the same thing that happens in the finale of season 5 with the ship that goes in the ring?

Yes. It's the same force that shut down the protomolecule activity on New Terra in season four, and gobbled up the Barkeith at the end of season 5. In this season, Naomi realizes that a certain amount of critical mass passing simultaneously through the ring gates gets the attention of this "force" which will then act to destroy whatever is passing through. They used it to destroy the Free Navy.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 14, 2022, 08:21:25 AM
Cool and any idea if there was anything going on in the ring during the end-credits? The music seemed to indicate something was happening.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2022, 08:23:26 AM
And I still am unsure as to what the F was happening in that off world side story as far as the kid, 'dogs'....and the military deal being built in space. I know it was protomolecule related but it was a fuzzy storyline.

Think of it as laying the groundwork for the future. Duarte and his followers in the Laconia System (who were supporting Inaros with tech...until they felt like they didn't need him to keep the Sol System busy anymore) are building their military utopia with the protomolecule as the nucleus. Several decades pass before they are heard from again. The strange dogs story is just a little ditty that illustrates unintended consequences for Laconia.

If they ever decide to tell that story, they'll have the background established.

Thanks Gregg  :tup  I was thinking along those lines but I didn't refresh myself well enough prior to starting S6. It'd be cool if they'd wait a few years then pick the story back up but if they don't....I'm completely satisfied with the series and how it ended.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 14, 2022, 08:31:09 AM
It'd be cool if they'd wait a few years then pick the story back up but if they don't....I'm completely satisfied with the series and how it ended.

I am as well. Like I said before, just perfect.

That being said, if they do start up again, they'd need new (older) actors to play main characters...a difficult pill to swallow for us fans of the series. The current actors are the characters--for me at least.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2022, 08:56:35 AM
It'd be cool if they'd wait a few years then pick the story back up but if they don't....I'm completely satisfied with the series and how it ended.

I am as well. Like I said before, just perfect.

That being said, if they do start up again, they'd need new (older) actors to play main characters...a difficult pill to swallow for us fans of the series. The current actors are the characters--for me at least.

I don't necessarily think so. 'Aging' and actor is way more simple than de-aging as the de-aging requires a ton of CGI but aging them doesn't. It can be practical techniques. For example, this show I just finished on HBO Max, Station 11, had several characters that were young (30-40 yrs old) and were aged 20 years and it looked legit.

I think they could pull it off.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 14, 2022, 09:26:20 AM
True, but they'd need the right budget. I get the feeling that budget concerns is why we only got six episodes this season. On top of all the expensive CGI this series requires, I don't think the bean-counters would approve of adding on a crew of practical makeup artists in order to age everyone 30 years. We love the series, but I'm not sure it's all that popular with the larger viewing audience.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2022, 10:46:44 AM
True, but they'd need the right budget. I get the feeling that budget concerns is why we only got six episodes this season. On top of all the expensive CGI this series requires, I don't think the bean-counters would approve of adding on a crew of practical makeup artists in order to age everyone 30 years. We love the series, but I'm not sure it's all that popular with the larger viewing audience.

The dark horse in this is Jeff Bezos. He's the single reason why the show was able to continue after the third season. Once SyFy cancelled it.....he picked it up and greenlit the final three seasons immediately because it was/is one of his favorite book series and he loved the show. I'm wondering if he'd just say 'F' it and greenlight the remainder no matter the cost. Dude certainly has the $$$ to do so if he so desired.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ProfessorPeart on January 14, 2022, 09:08:20 PM
Excellent ending to a fantastic series! Honestly, EXPANSE is up there with shows like Mr. Robot, Travelers, Mr. In Between, Breaking Bad...I know there are a few more I can't think of right now....but it's up there with shows that ended pretty much perfectly.

[cough]12 Monkeys[cough]

Anyway, finished the show. Amazed how they wrapped it up. I had a feeling the magic dogs must have been a set up for the later books. The next book is 28 years later. I agree that the makeup end would be huge if they tried to keep the same cast. Maybe they will wait 25 years or so and then shoot it.  :lol
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 14, 2022, 09:28:13 PM
Excellent ending to a fantastic series! Honestly, EXPANSE is up there with shows like Mr. Robot, Travelers, Mr. In Between, Breaking Bad...I know there are a few more I can't think of right now....but it's up there with shows that ended pretty much perfectly.

[cough]12 Monkeys[cough]

Anyway, finished the show. Amazed how they wrapped it up. I had a feeling the magic dogs must have been a set up for the later books. The next book is 28 years later. I agree that the makeup end would be huge if they tried to keep the same cast. Maybe they will wait 25 years or so and then shoot it.  :lol

100% on board with 12 Monkeys ending perfectly as well. Another great series!
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 17, 2022, 08:05:56 PM
On to Season 5...this show really doesn't let off in terms of quality, does it? I especially love the detail involved in the actual speculative science, they're really putting solid thought into all the smallest things, and how they would be 300 or so years from now. For example, when Amos gets his fingers shot off on New Terra, and he's in the medical chair when they leave, he has this little glove thing on which is digitally reprinting/re-growing his fingers. Very cool stuff.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 17, 2022, 08:37:27 PM
On to Season 5...this show really doesn't let off in terms of quality, does it? I especially love the detail involved in the actual speculative science, they're really putting solid thought into all the smallest things, and how they would be 300 or so years from now. For example, when Amos gets his fingers shot off on New Terra, and he's in the medical chair when they leave, he has this little glove thing on which is digitally reprinting/re-growing his fingers. Very cool stuff.

Love the tech on the show, it has a well-grounded approach to the science behind everything. I love in season 4 too how the chemo is generated on the fly and attacks very specific cells.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 18, 2022, 08:45:15 PM
Ok, not that I'm falling for her, but I just gotta repeat my adoration for Drummer, such a fucking intense strength and honor in that character. The whole scene with her, Marco and Filip, she was stone fucking cold, yet spoke endless volumes with those eyes. Cara Gee just crushes the role.


Ok, maybe I'm falling for her a bit.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 18, 2022, 09:00:20 PM
Ok, not that I'm falling for her, but I just gotta repeat my adoration for Drummer, such a fucking intense strength and honor in that character. The whole scene with her, Marco and Filip, she was stone fucking cold, yet spoke endless volumes with those eyes. Cara Gee just crushes the role.


Ok, maybe I'm falling for her a bit.

No shame in that. It’s a great character and that actress played the role incredibly.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 19, 2022, 09:49:30 AM
As soon as I saw the finale, it took everything in my power to not just start the whole thing over again. This series is great and I'm recommending it to just about everyone I know right now. Watching it from beginning to end, without much concern for "seasons" but rather as one whole story, will probably be awesome when I eventually get to it.

Also, this was pretty epic: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/01/16/amazons-the-expanse-finale-packed-30-easter-eggs-into-one-shot/?sh=472de44c184c
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 23, 2022, 12:03:46 AM
Ok I"m done. 19 days beginning to end...I really need to get a social life. :lol


Anyways...outstanding show overall, well written, well produced, and very, very well acted. Not sure where the zombie kid bit fits in, and why it was left hanging, but a work friend told me that's where the story gets drawn out going further in the books. Seemed just a brutal tease more than anything else to me. I'm honestly bummed they let Filip live in the end...I think it takes away from the sacrifice Naomi made in (though she isn't aware that he's alive)..plus as Hef said, fuck the kid anyways.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 23, 2022, 05:14:59 AM
Anyways...outstanding show overall, well written, well produced, and very, very well acted. Not sure where the zombie kid bit fits in, and why it was left hanging, but a work friend told me that's where the story gets drawn out going further in the books. Seemed just a brutal tease more than anything else to me. I'm honestly bummed they let Filip live in the end...I think it takes away from the sacrifice Naomi made in (though she isn't aware that he's alive)..plus as Hef said, fuck the kid anyways.

Nah, it's too important to Holden's story/character that, as he said, "I couldn't be the guy who kills your kid." Filip's end, as far as the complete story goes, is fitting in that we never hear from him again. He just wasn't that significant. We're free to presume whatever end.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 23, 2022, 08:47:57 AM
been binging the last 3+ weeks.

Just finished Season 4 last night...this show has grown on me a ton.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 23, 2022, 09:23:11 AM
Anyways...outstanding show overall, well written, well produced, and very, very well acted. Not sure where the zombie kid bit fits in, and why it was left hanging, but a work friend told me that's where the story gets drawn out going further in the books. Seemed just a brutal tease more than anything else to me. I'm honestly bummed they let Filip live in the end...I think it takes away from the sacrifice Naomi made in (though she isn't aware that he's alive)..plus as Hef said, fuck the kid anyways.

Nah, it's too important to Holden's story/character that, as he said, "I couldn't be the guy who kills your kid." Filip's end, as far as the complete story goes, is fitting in that we never hear from him again. He just wasn't that significant. We're free to presume whatever end.

But Holden didn't push the button, Naomi did. And also, I think the earlier discussion settled the matter on Holden's culpability in the situation, Naomi pretty much put him in his place there.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 23, 2022, 12:12:26 PM
Ok I"m done. 19 days beginning to end...I really need to get a social life. :lol

Reminds me of when I watched Breaking Bad in 13 days. I was on a mission. So much sacrificed sleep on work nights.

I knew you’d dig the show. It’s just THAT good.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 23, 2022, 02:23:16 PM
Ok I"m done. 19 days beginning to end...I really need to get a social life. :lol

Reminds me of when I watched Breaking Bad in 13 days. I was on a mission. So much sacrificed sleep on work nights.

I knew you’d dig the show. It’s just THAT good.

Yeah, the only time I came that close was eiterh 6 seasons of GOT in a few weeks, or all of Heroes in about a month.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Podaar on January 24, 2022, 05:32:24 AM
Anyways...outstanding show overall, well written, well produced, and very, very well acted. Not sure where the zombie kid bit fits in, and why it was left hanging, but a work friend told me that's where the story gets drawn out going further in the books. Seemed just a brutal tease more than anything else to me. I'm honestly bummed they let Filip live in the end...I think it takes away from the sacrifice Naomi made in (though she isn't aware that he's alive)..plus as Hef said, fuck the kid anyways.

Nah, it's too important to Holden's story/character that, as he said, "I couldn't be the guy who kills your kid." Filip's end, as far as the complete story goes, is fitting in that we never hear from him again. He just wasn't that significant. We're free to presume whatever end.

But Holden didn't push the button, Naomi did. And also, I think the earlier discussion settled the matter on Holden's culpability in the situation, Naomi pretty much put him in his place there.

Okay, it's obvious I wasn't tracking what you were talking about. I saw the Hef comment and my brain switched over to the end of the episode where Holden cancelled the warhead. It's probably safer to ignore me. It works for most people who know me IRL
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: DoctorAction on January 24, 2022, 06:11:57 AM
It's a fabulous show. Sad that it's over.

I've not read the books but I felt the last series was a little short and abrupt but loved every minute.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 30, 2022, 06:16:26 PM
Loved this show, although I'm not quite as crazy about the ending (namely Marco's fate. I say that, per you didn't really get the classic standoff between him and Holden or Naomi..or even say his son); but the more I read, I'm okay with it.

It looks like the final 3 books could be adapted at some point.

https://screenrant.com/expanse-season-7-spinoff-laconia-future-next-show/

I'm going to likely go onto my YouTube Channel and babble on about in a video soon. And I also plan to make a Scifi Shows set in Space Top 20 video for shits and giggles...I would say at this point, The Expanse is hardly my favorite Scifi Show set in Space, but it certainly is up there, and the best made in the last decade for sure.

I am awfully curious though about stuff like the Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica reboots that are in the works.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 30, 2022, 08:11:06 PM
I see zero reason to reboot Battlestar Gallactica. The previous reboot/series was near perfect. There’s no way to improve on it….I think they stand a better chance at making a steaming pile of crap than anything better than what we’ve seen.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 30, 2022, 08:17:02 PM
I see zero reason to reboot Battlestar Gallactica. The previous reboot/series was near perfect. There’s no way to improve on it….I think they stand a better chance at making a steaming pile of crap than anything better than what we’ve seen.

Seriously... I still hold that up as the gold standard for all Sci fi television shows. Any attempt would just tarnish the legacy
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on January 30, 2022, 08:26:26 PM
Is BSG being rebooted? I thought they were making it set in the same universe, I know Sam Esmail of Mr.Robot is involved in it in a producers' capacity and vaguely recall him saying the original and reboot are sacred ground to him and it's more of a re-tread rather than reboot.


Found this (https://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-reboot-biggest-challenges/)
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The new Battlestar Galactica destined for Peacock is currently being helmed by executive producer Sam Esmail (Mr. Robot) who has said that the show will be less of a reboot and instead take place in the same continuity as the early-2000s Battlestar Galactica.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: lonestar on January 30, 2022, 09:14:57 PM
Is BSG being rebooted? I thought they were making it set in the same universe, I know Sam Esmail of Mr.Robot is involved in it in a producers' capacity and vaguely recall him saying the original and reboot are sacred ground to him and it's more of a re-tread rather than reboot.


Found this (https://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-reboot-biggest-challenges/)
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The new Battlestar Galactica destined for Peacock is currently being helmed by executive producer Sam Esmail (Mr. Robot) who has said that the show will be less of a reboot and instead take place in the same continuity as the early-2000s Battlestar Galactica.

Phew...to it not being a direct reboot, and an even bigger phew to Esmail being involved.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 30, 2022, 09:56:13 PM
sorry, ...well "Reboot" or just a new series set in the universe I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSECWyEMwvc

I know like 2 years ago, there was something about it, and then just last week I was suggested this video on YouTube (the guy says Roland D. Moore, but meant to use Ronald and typed in a correction in the description).

There is a Remake of the Original Galactica Film from 1978.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: gmillerdrake on January 30, 2022, 10:18:37 PM
Is BSG being rebooted? I thought they were making it set in the same universe, I know Sam Esmail of Mr.Robot is involved in it in a producers' capacity and vaguely recall him saying the original and reboot are sacred ground to him and it's more of a re-tread rather than reboot.


Found this (https://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-reboot-biggest-challenges/)
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The new Battlestar Galactica destined for Peacock is currently being helmed by executive producer Sam Esmail (Mr. Robot) who has said that the show will be less of a reboot and instead take place in the same continuity as the early-2000s Battlestar Galactica.

Phew...to it not being a direct reboot, and an even bigger phew to Esmail being involved.

100% that. Now I’m curious.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: Polarbear on March 29, 2022, 07:38:41 AM
It's a fabulous show. Sad that it's over.

I've not read the books but I felt the last series was a little short and abrupt but loved every minute.

Just finished my first watch through of The Expanse and I feel the same way! :metal

Hands down some of the best Sci-fi I've ever watched. First season started of a bit slow, but before long I was hooked. Final season was a bit disappointing though. I don't know what kind of drama was there backstage, but it was a mistake to make it only six episodes.

The Laconia subplot just abruptly ended, without any kind of closure. The war with the Free Navy, was also wrapped very fast! But I liked where it ended up for the most part. Most of the characters got nice endings. Drummer, Amos and Bobbie were my favorite characters and I liked where they ended up!

Going to rewatch this at some point in the future, for sure! And I hope the final 3 books get adapted at some point.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: ZirconBlue on April 12, 2022, 10:38:57 AM
I'm very late to the party, but I watched the entire series with my family over the last couple of months, and it was amazing.  I do think the final season could have used a few more episodes, but, otherwise, a near-flawless series.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on July 26, 2022, 06:37:31 AM
I've recently been feeling a bit starved for good entertainment, so I said screw it and decided to go back through The Expanse from start to finish. I originally watched the first four seasons in a chunk, then the fifth season, and then the sixth season. I'm really excited to essentially disregard the seasons and move through it as one big story. I'm really hoping they release a 4K boxset one day.
Title: Re: The EXPANSE
Post by: faizoff on July 26, 2022, 07:00:50 AM
I'm really hoping they release a 4K boxset one day.

Same here, it's why I held off buying the complete boxset when it came on sale. I don't have high hopes though, since they're on Prime in 4k I somehow doubt they will see the light of day due to very niche demand.