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Title: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - And the winner is...
Post by: Train of Naught on November 03, 2015, 07:36:44 AM
Welcome to the Train of Naught debut roulette!

Hello and welcome, to the first Train of Naught roulette, I'm relatively new compared to most of you, but that only means you can get away easily with submissions that have been sent a million times, isn't that great? No?..



Basic Rules



I don't know how many participants I'm going to have, I guess whoever comes first, expect around 10 people. For the roulette format, I'm going to have 10 rounds, and the top three participants will be showing off in a final round. I want to mix the roulette up a bit with some themed rounds, expect your standard themed rounds, maybe a few eccentric ones aswell, oh and like Parama, I will name the rounds after some of my favorite songs, so the clever participants can think ahead and maybe predict the round themes (by the way, I'm not going to place the standard themed rounds in the standard round number, or am i? :neverusethis:). My rating system will be the usual 1-10 score, I feel it's the best way.
By all means, make me try out new stuff, I haven't been too active on exploring new music apart from the prog scene, so it's your chance to wow me, of course trying out whacky stuff is appreciated and will be rewarded if succesfull.

Lastly, don't be the one to slow down the roulette by submitting one week too late! I'm a very punctual guy, so you can expect me to be on time every round, I hope I can expect the same from you  >:(.



Rounds (& Themes*)

- Clarity
- Breaking All Illusions *
- Wherever I May Roam
- When The Sun Goes Down
- Come To Life *
- Goliath *
- M.I.A.
- The Root Of All Evil *
- Paschendale
- This Is The End *





Participants:



1. mikemangioy
2. Bolsters
3. Sacul
4. Elite
5. Parama
6. Evermind
7. splent
8. 425
9. Shadow Ninja 2.0
10. Tyrias
11. LordCost
12. senecadawg2




General tastes:



Of course we all have one thing in common, Dream Theater, that's obvious, but pretty much all of the similar-ish bands I have either heard of and wasn't too fond of, or I already like and will probably be on the banned list.

- Nu-Metal I grew up listening to these popular nu-metal bands that I now realize aren't all that, so don't bother with nu-metal (although I don't think anyone would've gone for it anyway).

- Harsh vocals is usually a hit or miss, but I wouldn't go for all harsh, I like some mixed vocals with nice melodies at times, Protest the Hero is a good example, and if you really want to go all growls, make sure the instrumentation is top notch, cause it has worked in the past, but the chances are very slim.

- Electronic, I don't really care for it, electronic parts in songs doesn't bother me, but dubstep or anything related won't get you anywhere.

- Power Metal wins the cheese most of the times, often to a level where I can't stand it anymore, if you're thinking of power metal, make it as non-cheesy as possible.

- Rock, straight up rock is something I'm getting more and more into over the past few years, so this is fine.

- Vocals in general, this is huge, the vocalist is almost always what makes or breaks the song, as long as the instruments aren't god awful, I like me a singer with a very unique or just straight up amazing voice, especially when they use awesome vocal melodies in their songs.

Banlist



Red list

AC/DC
A.C.T
Alice Cooper
Alter Bridge
Amon Amarth
Arctic Monkeys
Avenged Sevenfold
Billy Talent
Black Sabbath
Brand New (The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me)
Brookes Brothers
Bullet for my Valentine
Children of Bodom
Circus Maximus
Coldplay
The Dear Hunter
Deep Purple
Deftones
Device
Devin Townsend
Dio
Dire Straits
Distorted Harmony (Chain Reaction)
Disturbed
Dorje
Dream Theater
Drowning Pool
Fates Warning (Disconnected)
Foo Fighters
Gojira
Guns n Roses
Haken
Iced Earth
Infected Mushroom
Intervals (In Time EP)
Iron Maiden
James Labrie
John Coffey
John Petrucci
Kansas
Korn
Lamb of God
Led Zeppelin
Linkin Park
Liquid Tension Experiment
Machine Head
The Mars Volta
Mastodon (Crack the Skye)
Megadeth
Metallica
Muro
Muse
Native Construct
Opeth (Pale Communion, Ghost Reveries)
Overkill
Pantera
Pendulum
Periphery
Pearl Jam
Pomegranate Tiger
Porcupine Tree (DeadWing)
Protest the Hero
Queensrˇche
Rage Against the Machine
Rise Against
Rival Sons
Royal Blood
Seether
Serj Tankian
Seventh Wonder (Mercy Falls)
Shinedown
Silver Fist
Slash ft. Myles Kennedy and The Conspirators
Slipknot
Stone Sour
Sum 41
Symphony X (The Odyssey/Paradise Lost)
System of a Down
Tesseract (Polaris, Altered State)
Three Days Grace
Tool
Tremonti




Green list

Animals As Leaders
Bon Jovi
CHON
Limp Bizkit
Redemption
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Rolling Stones
Scorpions
Soundgarden
Trivium
Twisted Sister
Van Halen
Wolfmother
Rush (ONLY 2112)



Banned during roulette:
Voices from the Fuselage
Yes
JOLLY
Thrice
Avantasia
Anathema
Damien Rice
Jeff Buckley
Navarone
Coheed and Cambria
David Maxim Micic
Glen Hansard
Thunderstone
Beyond the Bridge
Ben Folds Five
Celdweller
Caravan Palace
Russkaja
Caligulaís Horse
Leprous
IQ
Vanden Plas
East of the Wall
Kamelot
Destiny Potato
Ayreon (2)
Flying Colors
Nine Inch Nails
Azedia
Queen
Meatloaf
Porcupine Tree
Susanne Sundfor
Genesis
Sleep Party People
ŃrstŪūir
Mr. Mister
Pineforest Crunch
Ayreon
Tuomas Holopainen
Journey
Animals As Leaders
Pain of Salvation
Agent Fresco
David Gray
Sigur Růs
PFM
Steven Wilson
Santigold
Creed
Mark Knopfler
Papadosio
Nightwish
Riverside
Oceansize
Big Big Train
Scale the Summit
Unexpect
The Tallest Man On Earth
Tom Waits
Transatlantic
Ne Obliviscaris
Devil Doll
Mono
Destrage
Enslaved
Pink Floyd
Between the Buried and Me
Need
Frost*
The Human Abstract
The Black Mages
Rishloo
Thank You Scientist
Agalloch
The Plot In You
Twelve Foot Ninja
Dredg
Amadeus Awad
Bela Fleck and the Flecktones
Bent Knee
Death Cab For Cutie
Theocracy
Circle Takes the Square
The Angelic Process
Ulver
Opeth
Obsidian Kingdom
Swans
Primal Fear
Cave In
Chelsea Wolfe
PJ Harvey
Tori Amos
Sufjan Stevens
Bon Iver
Igorrr
Jon Gomm
Vangough
The National
Rush
Soilwork
Whitesnake
Epysode
Triumph
Intronaut
Blind Guardian
Gentle Giant
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Nirvana
Kyuss
Circle of Illusion
Celesty
Amplifier
.fun
Lesoir
Bruce Dickinson

I got bored of ranking all the artists so I just dumped the rest of them at the bottom of the list and will keep doing so. I'll do like a top 20/25 roulette songs at the end of the roulette.





I'll explain how this works, you have the red list, which is completely off the table, some artists only have one or two banned albums, therefore I have heard absolutely nothing of the other albums and although it's more fun to send odd new stuff, the non-banned albums are available for submission.
The green list is for that individual you secretly have in every roulette, thinking "maybe I can score some easy points with this very popular and interesting song that the host apparently doesn't know for some reason", the artists on the green list are available for entries, but I know their vastly popular material, I'm not going to bother writing down every single song I know, but you get the gist.


(I'm going to complete my banned list during the intro week, before round 1 starts, because I'm sure I missed a few.)


Submitting

Youtube/Spotify is probably the easiest way for me, but sending me an mp3 file is fine too, as long as it's an audio quality I can work with. Whether you want to send it via e-mail or DTF PM, I don't care, I keep my inbox clean so you could go both ways. (marchebv@gmail.com)




On a final note, don't feel rushed, I'm going to let this roulette wait for a bit until there's enough people, and start off when the timing feels right.

Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: mikemangioy on November 03, 2015, 07:42:35 AM
This'll be fun! Count me in.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Bolsters on November 03, 2015, 08:00:25 AM
I don't have much of an idea of your taste, and your roulette has themes. I usually have a good idea what people like when I join their roulettes, and I've never done one with themes before. But I'd like to join all the same - it should be interesting to try something different.


Electronic, I don't really care for it, electronic parts in songs doesn't bother me, but dubstep or anything related won't get you anywhere.
Didn't you send someone a Pendulum song? I was hoping to get a bit of electronic stuff through. I'm still going to send some despite this warning so watch out. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 03, 2015, 08:09:07 AM
Well yeah I liked Pendulum back in the days where they were an actual band and played live with their respective instruments, I still enjoy some Electronic, Brookes Brothers is on the banned list (which is Drum and Bass), it is accessible for me, but I want it to be more on the melodic side, and I don't think I've ever heard melodic dubstep :lol.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Sacul on November 03, 2015, 08:29:55 AM
Dubstep is just one (mostly) lame electronic subgenre - there's some fucking gold in electronic music.

Oh, and I'll join of course.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 03, 2015, 09:01:29 AM
Dubstep is just one (mostly) lame electronic subgenre - there's some fucking gold in electronic music.

Oh, and I'll join of course.
Go for it! We both profit from good submissions after all.


Rounds (& Themes?)

- Clarity
- Breaking All Illusions
- Wherever I May Roam
- When The Sun Goes Down
- Come To Life
- Goliath
- M.I.A.
- The Root Of All Evil
- Paschendale
- This Is The End





Some may be very obvious, some may be a stretch (I know at least two of 'em are), but also just take this as a free deeper insight on some of my tastes, obviously these aren't all my favorite songs, after all it had to fit their respective themes atleast slightly.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Elite on November 03, 2015, 09:14:07 AM
I don't have much of an idea of your taste, and your roulette has themes. I usually have a good idea what people like when I join their roulettes, and I've never done one with themes before. But I'd like to join all the same - it should be interesting to try something different.

This, basically. Count me in if you'll have me!
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Cyril on November 03, 2015, 09:15:07 AM
might as well go three for three on roulettes, count me in  :lol

i'm glad someone liked my song-names-as-theme-titles idea  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Evermind on November 03, 2015, 09:17:38 AM
I'm in. You seem to be a guy with the tastes much different from mine, so I expect to finish last or whatever, but hell, I'll play.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: splent on November 03, 2015, 09:21:43 AM
I'm in!!!
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 03, 2015, 09:23:52 AM
might as well go three for three on roulettes, count me in  :lol

i'm glad someone liked my song-names-as-theme-titles idea  :tup
Hellz yeah, too bad Drumhead Trial was taken, that's by far the most badass Volition song name.

..so I expect to finish last or whatever, but hell, I'll play.
That's the spirit!!
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: 425 on November 03, 2015, 09:44:58 AM
I'll give it a try and join if you'll have me. No promises about my level of success, though... I expect to finish behind Evermind. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 03, 2015, 10:13:25 AM
Hey I guess I'll join this one too, I've got some shit I can send.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Evermind on November 03, 2015, 10:52:59 AM
..so I expect to finish last or whatever, but hell, I'll play.
That's the spirit!!

Yeah. :lol

Gotta warn you though, I'm going to be on business trip from Wednesday to Saturday, so the earliest I'll be able to send R1 is Sunday.

Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Tyrias on November 03, 2015, 11:00:21 AM
I'd like to play as well, I think I have some interesting music to mix this up a bit. Not expecting to win this, but if I can get you to like some stuff outside your comfort zone I'll consider this a win already :lol.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 03, 2015, 11:09:20 AM
Alright, we have gotten ourselves 10 participants, I'm willing to set the maximum amount to 12, so if someone still wants in just say so, but this weekend round one will be open for submissions and from there on the roulette will be closed.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: LordCost on November 03, 2015, 12:56:07 PM
I'd like to play if you want!
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 03, 2015, 06:24:32 PM
I'll play, if you'll have me, because I'm an addict
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Train of Naught on November 04, 2015, 12:50:51 AM
Aaaaand we're full. Round one starts friday thursday.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Respect My Authority
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 12:26:42 AM
Round One: Clarity
Hello folks, you might think this is pretty anticlimactic for a first round, it's an OPEN ROUND, so don't worry, you can send anything you like (but if I don't like it you should still worry).

I was going to start friday, but I guess announcing the round doesn't matter, I'm just making sure everyone knows they can send now, don't feel rushed, I'll start scheduling the songs when I have gotten all of them. The second round will be announced right after the results from round one and so forth.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Evermind on November 05, 2015, 12:39:43 AM
As I said, I won't be able to send before Sunday.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 05, 2015, 12:53:15 AM
there's already like 5 or 6 artists i want to send before someone jumps on them because your list has some delicious holes that need plugging omg
my initial list for you has 21 songs already and i may have to improvise for some of the themes so this should definitely turn out disastrous  :lol

edit: SENT. I decided to plug my favorite hole straightaway before someone else gets to it  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Bolsters on November 05, 2015, 01:03:32 AM
Sent some rock. Hoping it doesn't get rejected.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
Both are new to me, so nothing's getting rejected.

And Evermind, I know about your business trip, I didn't plan on starting the listens this week anyway, I don't even think I'll have everything by then, so it'll probably be by next weekend or something, maybe earlier maybe later.
Title: Re: Train of Naught debut Roulette - Join in, my minions!
Post by: Tyrias on November 05, 2015, 03:17:00 AM
Well yeah I liked Pendulum back in the days where they were an actual band and played live with their respective instruments, I still enjoy some Electronic, Brookes Brothers is on the banned list (which is Drum and Bass), it is accessible for me, but I want it to be more on the melodic side, and I don't think I've ever heard melodic dubstep :lol.

I'm gonna remedy that fact in the first round. What's your stance on spoken word samples?

Okay, what about live versions of songs? I just found an awesome live studio version of the song I wanted to send, which makes it not really dubstep anymore, but who cares :lol.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 03:33:59 AM
This reminded me Pendulum should be on the banned list, edited.

I used to listen to this drumstep artist who had really corny and overly autotuned vocals he did himself, I enjoyed the musical part but the vocals really annoyed me, but if you're planning to use songs with spoken word samples make them not repeat a hundred times in the song and it probably won't be a problem.
As for live studio songs, I don't mind, as long as it doesn't hurt the audio quality.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on November 05, 2015, 04:32:31 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 05, 2015, 05:11:34 AM
I really love When the Sun Goes Down, by the way. Nice to see it referenced here.

I'll send today
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2015, 05:29:25 AM
I'll send when I get home. Any music preferences?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: splent on November 05, 2015, 05:42:43 AM
I'll send tonight
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 05:54:20 AM
I think I heard When the Sun Goes Down for the first time at some indie nightclub :lol I guess it was at least a partially benefitial evening.

As for musical preferences, something that fits the theme "Open Round". But seriously, just send anything you think fits my tastes, from the looks of artist names I know I've already received very different types of songs, I'll go through the 'risky picks' so to say shortly for you:

Growls are a risk, but when used properly, can add.
Power Metal is also a risk, only when you have something you think can change my mind about the genre would I recommend it.
Electronic: Can be completely fine, see conversation above.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: mikemangioy on November 05, 2015, 06:15:24 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2015, 06:16:57 AM
I was merely asking because, although I've seen your name on these forums, I don't really have any idea what your music preferences are and thus what I should send, but I'll just send something I really like and see where that will lead me.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 05, 2015, 07:01:49 AM
sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Sacul on November 05, 2015, 07:34:34 AM
Do you like djent? :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
Do you like djent? :P
As long as it's not over the top with the instruments, I usually enjoy it, just keep in mind when sending djent that I'm usually fairly picky with vocalists, for one, not used to excessive screaming, and the only real example I can think of right now of a vocalist playing for a djent band that I enjoy is Spencer Sotelo.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 05, 2015, 08:51:05 AM
you're getting david maxim micic, just accept it  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Sacul on November 05, 2015, 09:04:15 AM
you're getting david maxim micic, just accept it  :P
le king 0f dj0nt
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 09:30:20 AM
Kinda expected that since I always see that name next to a Sacul submission, I have not heard their music yet though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 05, 2015, 09:42:02 AM
fortunately i do not yet have any david maxim micic purchased bcuz buying digital stuff is hard for me
i'll probably go get all the digital stuff i want to get around christmastime bcuz i need to spoil myself then, so david's stuff along with a few other things i have bookmarked will probably all get purchased and i can drown in a sea of infinite music
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2015, 10:11:07 AM
Just get Spotify already :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 10:32:15 AM
Just get Spotify already :lol
I had it for one month, then realized I don't want to pay for it and deleted it.   :-\
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 05, 2015, 10:37:50 AM
Been getting a lot of names I'm very familiar with but have never bothered to check out, obviously my lazy ass intended for that to happen and just wanted the best of the best out of those artists sended right to me. I'm pretty excited to check everything out but it won't be until atleast Sunday/Monday until I start listening (obviously Evermind has his business trip until Sunday so the other four people remaining aren't in any rush to send whatsoever).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: splent on November 06, 2015, 07:58:28 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Sacul on November 06, 2015, 09:36:55 PM
s0nt s0me dj0nt
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 07, 2015, 02:07:53 AM
Okay, once 425 and Evermind have sent me I'll start listening (this'll probably be sunday or monday).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Evermind on November 07, 2015, 09:13:50 AM
Alright, just came home a few hours ago, but I still need to settle up and rest a bit after the flight, so I'll send in a few hours.

Is there any length limit for the songs?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 07, 2015, 09:33:47 AM
No real time limit, just go with your guts.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 07, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
can i change my entry to Light of Day, Day of Darkness
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 07, 2015, 09:40:04 AM
Yes you can, it comes with a free 10 point penalty, are you willing to take the chance?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: 425 on November 07, 2015, 10:02:26 AM
Sent Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Sacul on November 07, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
Sent Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
:tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 07, 2015, 10:33:10 AM
also i don't have good guesses for all of the round themes but goliath is 90% going to be an "epic round" unless you're being a prick so i know what i need to save for that round, at least
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 07, 2015, 11:02:49 AM
Most themed rounds are pretty obvious, but two of them are kind of a stretch while the open rounds are pretty much the random leftovers.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Evermind on November 07, 2015, 11:07:04 AM
Sent Light of Day, Day of Darkness.

Shit, I'm cockblocked on the very first round just like that! :lol

In fact, I wanted to send a heavy track, but I kinda think Breaking All Illusions Round is going to be a heavy round, so I need to dwell on this a little longer. Will send in ~30 minutes.

Edit: sent a song I always tend to outplay Parama with, and after the round he complains he knows this song but never sends it. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 07, 2015, 11:44:22 AM
Okay, I have my round one playlist ready to go, I'll start listening tonight/tomorrow and post teasers tomorrow, results will be up next week depending on how much listens I want to give it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 07, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
Most themed rounds are pretty obvious, but two of them are kind of a stretch while the open rounds are pretty much the random leftovers.
aww man i tried to at least have my open round names sound like open round names, sort of, a little  :P

and Evermind I sent The Road of Bones in BIZKIT's first roulette y'know  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Evermind on November 07, 2015, 12:33:27 PM
Well, I haven't followed this one, and I'd be grateful if you didn't spill what song I've sent just like that. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 07, 2015, 12:45:53 PM
to be fair you spilled it first  :P

and it's not like that's gonna stop you from getting like at least an 8.5 with it either  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Evermind on November 07, 2015, 12:58:39 PM
to be fair you spilled it first  :P

Nah, I don't think anyone except you would've realized what song I sent, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 08, 2015, 01:58:15 AM
As my very first taste of a roulette as the host I must say I'm already enjoying this so much, shows that I still have a lot of music to discover. Here's some snippets from each song:


This is a very cool style of music that I would never see myself listen to on a regular basis, but it works so well that I want to find those situations to listen to this kind of music


Risks make for fun roulettes, but Iím pretty sure youíll be facing the non-rewarding consequence of taking risks


I feel like shouting the chorus as loud as possible from the top of a mountain whenever it kicks in


And the electronic side of this song is in no way overwhelming, which is pretty much how I had hoped it to be


But this song shows all the more that great production makes for amazing audible basslines


The choir comes in, and itís very fitting for this extremely progressive style theyíre going for


Good thing you had that great second guitar solo in there because I think thatís what eventually made this song where it stands


This song never gets too complex to comprehend or anything, therefore it has more relistening value


I find it hard to say a lot about this, because thereís not all that much to complain about, neither is there something Iíve never heard before


But letís face it, the best part of this song is that killer bass riff, that shit is freaking awesome


And finally, angry Portnoy vocals transition into great, memorable melodies


It has very aggressive vocals which really fit this raw sound theyíre going for



And some random notes: I don't think I'll be giving out a 10/10, but only because I don't really have material to compare to, I want to save a 10/10 for the song that can't be beaten by anything, and I still have 9 rounds to go, although I'm pretty sure a 9,5 will be handed to one of you. There's also one song that has already put one of you back quite a few steps, as scores will probably range from about 4,5 to 9,5.


Results are out tomorrow or tuesday depending on my schedule.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2015, 03:55:27 AM
Mine is probably one of those regarding bass.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 09:21:09 AM
I feel like shouting the chorus as loud as possible from the top of a mountain whenever it kicks in


Good thing you had that great second guitar solo in there because I think thatís what eventually made this song where it stands


This song never gets too complex to comprehend or anything, therefore it has more relistening value


I find it hard to say a lot about this, because thereís not all that much to complain about, neither is there something Iíve never heard before


And finally, angry Portnoy vocals transition into great, memorable melodies


It has very aggressive vocals which really fit this raw sound theyíre going for

could be any of these  :lol
#6 seems the most likely though
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 08, 2015, 09:47:00 AM
Almost all songs had a chorus, so that one's gonna be a hard guess.
ROUND 2 Ė Breaking All Illusions
Alrighty, I said before that two of the names are kind of a stretch IMO, and this is the first one of them. Uplifting/joyful songs, anything that invokes happinesss for whatever reason you can think of, send them to me! I guess I chose BAI because of the vibe more than the actual song name. Anyway send somewhere around this week.

Since pretty much all of you aren't familiar with my tastes it might be for the best to wait for results before sending round 2, I'm just putting out the theme so you know. By the way I'm pretty happy with the first round overall, not perfect, but we have 9 more to go.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 09:50:02 AM
it's not exactly likely for you to get your favorite song of the roulette in the very first round, yeah  :P
let's see what i have to send, then. maybe i'll send the same thing I sent to Tom  :lol
would a bright-sounding song with not-exactly bright lyrics fit for the round though?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 08, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
Wow, I purpously didn't send the same song I sent to you to BIZKIT so I picked another song from the same artist, just because it seemed unethical, but apparently everyone does it   :tdwn.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
because i like to pick songs from artists that are
1. rather representative of their sound
2. one of my favorites from them

i do send different songs from the same artist in some cases but in other cases i stick with the entry i like sending the most  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 08, 2015, 09:56:05 AM
Yeah, Breaking All Illusions sounded like a heavy round, apparently it's not. I hate uplifting rounds. I'm probably going to suck at it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: LordCost on November 08, 2015, 10:26:37 AM



I feel like shouting the chorus as loud as possible from the top of a mountain whenever it kicks in


Good thing you had that great second guitar solo in there because I think thatís what eventually made this song where it stands


This song never gets too complex to comprehend or anything, therefore it has more relistening value


I find it hard to say a lot about this, because thereís not all that much to complain about, neither is there something Iíve never heard before


It has very aggressive vocals which really fit this raw sound theyíre going for

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2015, 11:29:59 AM
I don't really know which one is mine :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2015, 04:04:49 PM
I hate uplifting rounds. I'm probably going to suck at it.

Indeed, let me send depressing or angry music please :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2015, 04:09:03 PM
Sent for round 2.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 04:11:39 PM
Alright, I think I can do an uplifting round. Think I'm going to wait for the round 1 scores just to see before I send, though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2015, 04:16:09 PM
I figured I could do that too, but I have this stigma that I'm always too late with sending song that I want to get rid of.

SO THERE WAS I THE FIRST TO SEND OR NOT
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 04:18:01 PM
Yeah, I actually lied, I'm sending now in hopes that no one beats me to a really good song for this round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
i was first to send for round 2 prob i sent earlier today with another hole in need of plugging  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
Parama, I swear, if you plugged the same hole I just tried to plug, I'm going to just straight up send you an hour long song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2015, 04:34:50 PM
I'll just go with some DTF favs that might be missing on the banned list :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 08, 2015, 04:36:16 PM
Parama, I swear, if you plugged the same hole I just tried to plug, I'm going to just straight up send you an hour long song.
I can safely say that it was not Parama, and it was a round 1 submission.  :laugh: (Although he did point out he wanted to cut off people with his artist, he was far from the only one)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2015, 04:38:55 PM
There's so many 'holes' to fill based on that first list. I filled one as well.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2015, 04:40:44 PM
^ true dat. I just filled the most obvious :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 04:42:01 PM
Parama, I swear, if you plugged the same hole I just tried to plug, I'm going to just straight up send you an hour long song.
I can safely say that it was not Parama, and it was a round 1 submission.  :laugh: (Although he did point out he wanted to cut off people with his artist, he was far from the only one)

Still going to send Parama an hour-long song at some point.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on November 08, 2015, 04:43:39 PM
Sent. Since it's not really an obvious track, I hope I won't have to resend ::)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 04:52:07 PM
Oh man I wonder what 425 sent then, I'm curious  :lol
I'm plugging a really obvious hole in both these two rounds with one of the best or the best song from each respective artist though  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Elite on November 08, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
Well, I thought I filled an 'obvious' hole as well. Funny how we perceive things, right?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: splent on November 08, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
There are several that could be mine
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 07:52:23 PM
Oh man I wonder what 425 sent then, I'm curious  :lol

It's not all that interestingójust a fitting song from a fairly popular band. I'll say what I tried to send after the round 1 results come through.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on November 08, 2015, 08:21:01 PM
Wow, I purpously didn't send the same song I sent to you to BIZKIT so I picked another song from the same artist, just because it seemed unethical, but apparently everyone does it   :tdwn.
I try my best to avoid doing this, mostly because I don't want to be predictable, but I have done it twice. Unfortunately my next submission in your roulette is going to mark the third instance. :lol Sometimes there's just that one song that you think is going to fare better with the host, and I worry that sending the second choice song would potentially mean less of a chance of a good score. Plus this time I have to adhere to themes, and while the band I sent does have more uplifting/joyful stuff, and I have songs from other bands that also qualify, this particular song fits the theme much better in my opinion. So I'm using it again.

I have now sent the song in question.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2015, 09:43:42 PM
"I never go with the same, predictable choices on roulettes. Nobody knows what to expect from me." -Sacul

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 10:09:35 PM
I was surprised when Sacul sent me track 5 on that one album. Expected track 2, like everyone else gets.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 08, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
Because I knew you'd love it more than the other one :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 10:49:33 PM
did you send track 5 or track 2 this time?  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 11:45:25 PM
Because I knew you'd love it more than the other one :P

And you were right, because the other would not have scored nearly as well.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 08, 2015, 11:47:40 PM
i dunno track 2 did pretty well with me at least
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: 425 on November 08, 2015, 11:50:56 PM
I like it, but it's not exactly what I look for. Track 5 pretty well blew me away. And with the bonus half point thrown in it got a dime from me. So I'd count that as Sacul calling an audible with some degree of success.  ;D
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 01:49:02 AM
i dunno track 2 did pretty well with me at least
He sent track 2, which I think is the same you got last roulette.

Going to do one more listen and post results in a few hours.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 04:03:59 AM
Shadow Ninja v2
Tom Waits Ė Downtown Train (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ4UymgYKNE):

I never heard of this guy, although I can kinda guess where it's going. I want to be honest, and not feel that Iíve scored too nicely when I look back to previous rounds, so I will. This singers voice really annoys me, fair enough, youíre a risktaker judging from your submissions in other roulettes, and risks make for fun roulettes, but Iím pretty sure youíll be facing the non-rewarding consequence of taking risks. Iíll try to avoid the singer for now to form a fair opinion for the rest of the music and take that into account, the guitar for example, is great in its simplicity, but nothing else really dazzles me, if it had some crazy twist or strong climax near the end maybe it wouldíve redeemed itself, but I feel like this song is generally appreciated for the notable vocals more than anything, which didnít work for me, making it a song with few upsides, and a lot of downsides. So eventually after doing my final listens, I found myself getting a liiiittle more used to his voice, but itís still something that really wears on me, so the deficit you built up here isnít as big as it would've been if I only did one listen though.

5/10



Splent
Scale the Summit Ė Stolas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it5qQtUg9EY):

So I already knew this is a progressive instrumental band, Iíve heard of them, and yea youíre totally right about that music video, not sure what they were thinking when making that. Iím usually not the biggest fan of progressive when itís all instrumental, because I always miss those great main riffs that the metal instrumentals have (like Suicide & Redemption or To Live Is To Die). This sounds kinda like a mix between Animals As Leaders and CHON, which I both know some songs of, but never really got into all that much, I think that itís a better balance than either of those bands have managed to reach though, but I gotta say this is the best STS song Iíve heard so far, thatís nothing too positive though because I was never really baffled by them. This song never gets too complex to comprehend or anything, therefore it has more relistening value to me, but that shouldnít be taken out of context, because comparing to regularly structured songs this is still very much all over the place. I think for the selection of your song you did pretty good, but the artist is my main problem, just not a big fan. Besides, I wouldnít recommend following the path of instrumentals, as vocals really complement the music for me (oh and youíd be cutting off instrumental bands for a potential instrumental themed round :lol).

6,5/10



LordCost
Creed Ė Pity for a Dime (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUqK7RUwrOs):

This was a pretty obvious hole in my banned list, I admire Tremontiís work in Alter Bridge, I admire his side project (although the new album donít live up to the debut standards), so hell, why not try out where it all started? Apparently, Tremonti is not the only Creed member playing for AB, itís the entire band plus Myles, wow, I never knew that. I wasnít really a fan of the first part of this song, although the more I listen to it the better it gets, itís a great buildup to the main section. Itís really slow paced, while what I love more than anything in post-grunge is when singers deliver such great energy, like Shinedownís Brent Smith for example. Sure enough, the heavier part opens up with a cool guitar riff and quick enough the chorus starts, I found out why you were confident to send this even though Creed wasnít exactly on my to-go list, but it has very aggressive vocals which really fit this raw sound theyíre going for. Mark doesnít let down, not only the solo, but the guitar leads during the chorus are cool too. Honestly though, other than the guitar, and the chorus, itís a pretty regular song to me, nothing bad though, not a definite standout, just a solid song :tup.

7,5/10



mikemangioy
PFM Ė Eífesta (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPlMxnw9JHw):

So youíre putting your national pride on the line eh? This, along with Shadow Ninjaís song, are the only two artists I have never heard of before. This intro sure is happy, I like it, although maybe a 2 minute intro is a little long for a song of under five minutes, Iím guessing it makes more sense when you listen to the entire album. The singer (aside from the trololo guy) has a very atmospheric vibe, of course I donít understand Italian, but Iíll see through that, Iím not much of a lyric guy(send Dutch or Spanish songs guys, bonus points for national greatness). The vocal do fit the long intro but only makes me fear this will either end before it reaches any type of climax, or wonít have one at all.  Before this guy really got to sing much, this next part happens, and letís face it, the best part of this song is that killer bass riff, that shit is freaking awesome. I also think itís pretty safe to say youíre going to be the only one in round one with a flute included. Overall I think Iím more interested in the album as a whole than this standalone song, because I feel that it would make the flow better, it also sounds like it couldíve been a bit longer without dragging, but I donít really have any problems with this song other than that, and that bass makes up for that.

7,5/10



Parama
Pain of Salvation Ė Idioglossia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmrU2NahT2Q):

Obviously this name has caught my sight numerous times, Iím pretty sure this is one of the bigger names in the prog scene. The intro is very well structured, liking it a lot, although Iím not too big on the first verse, I did mention how vocalists tend to have a huge influence on my opinion, luckily though, it gets better soon. So yeah, finally, angry Portnoy vocals transition into great, memorable melodies. The instrumental section near the 4 minute mark is probably my favorite part of this song, though the chorus is also standing out to me. The guitar solo is nothing spectacular, but the following riffs are awesome. Overall a great song that doesnít feel dragged out at any point, which can be hard for such lengthy songs, but I gotta say Iím not the biggest fan of this, itísgreat overall, sure, but the verses still feel a little odd to me, I donít blame you though, you said this is one of your favorite songs, and those favorites usually do have something that makes it special as to distinguish it from other songs.

7,5/10



Bolsters
Journey Ė Stone In Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ijQml6-sA0):

Ah Journey, I remember playing Donít Stop Believing in middle school for some kind of talent show, judging from that song, I had already formed a strong opinion on Journey without trying out anything else by them, a negative one. This however, might just have changed my view, it has the strong guitar lead in the beginning flowing into the verse, great vocals,  kickass guitar solo(Ďs), damn, you sure know how to take my ďstraight up rockĒ taste into account and deliver this first round! The only complaint I have is the way this vocalist sings ďStone In LoveĒ, Iím sure he pronounces it like that to match the timing or something, but it getís a little annoying after a while, itís not something huge though, and that second guitar solo makes up for it big time, powerful stuff. Yeah, final thoughts, I still like this, a lot, but the guitar soloís remain the gamechangers, oh and I didnít mention this before, but that little keyboard section which leads into the solo is pretty cool too.

8/10



425
Kamelot Ė March of Mephisto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJh4CijYvRw):

Yes, Iíve definitely heard of Kamelot, I was actually not sure if I shouldíve put them on the green list at first, but I figured it has been too long since Iíve heard anything by them anyway. The fact that this is the album opening track doesnít take a genius to figure out, very clear intro, which is awesome by the way, I like thesemedieval type of introís, then the guitar riff kicks in, itís so in your face! I like it. So you said this song, however associated with, is not power metal, I would agree that this particular song sounds like heavy metal more than anything, and if it sounds awesome, who am I to complain? This singer adapts very well to the moodswings in this song, which makes for a great transition into the guitar solo. I find it hard to say a lot about this, because thereís not all that much to complain about, neither is there much to complement, itís just a killer heavy song. The one thing Iíd like to add though is that keyboard solo, heck, I didnít even know they had a keyboard player before I heard this song. These type of songs will almost always get solid ratings, but they will probably never be a round favorite, definitely something I wouldnít want to miss though.

8/10



Tyrias
AZEDIA - Something (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpCJ430DUlg):

Iíve been wanting to check this submission out ever since I received it so much, I saw you talk about sending dubstep in Tomís roulette and then discussing an electronic/live studio performance song. Sure enough the artist you sent me appeared on Tomís round one aswell, and he loved it, more reason to give this one a spin. It starts off super relaxing, and the electronic side of this song is in no way overwhelming, which is pretty much how I had hoped it to be. The relaxing vibe is kind of similar to CHON, except this song doesnít do anything overly complex, which is by no means bad, although sometimes something a bit crazy can catch me offguard and actually be very profitable. The only thing that kinda wears on me is the chorus, which feels like it repeats way more than it actually does, but to call this song ďsimpleĒ would be a stretch. Oh and the samples mixed in this donít really do much for me, though theyíre not bringing the score down or anything, theyíre just kind of there. So you said you were going to remedy the fact that Iíve never heard melodic dubstep, and Iím not an expert on genreís but though this is melodic, Iím pretty sure itís not dubstep.  However, I never expected to receive anything even remotely close to something like this coming into this roulette, but you done great mate.
So out of curiosity I went over to MrSuicideSheepís channel (used to listen to this stuff) and Iíll admit that you were probably better off sending the live studio version, I still like this, but not as much.

8/10



Evermind
IQ Ė The Road of Bones (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob0OYmSQukk):

As far as I know I have not heard any music of this band whatsoever, though the name seems familiar. The slow atmospheric intro only suggests more and more that itís going to pay off bigtime near the ending, this is a big up in my book, I love building anticipation. Now something I havenít really discussed of any other song, Iím usually not the guy who claims that production quality is a very big deal compared to the actual music, but this song shows all the more that great production makes for amazing audible basslines. Itís very rare for me to say that I enjoy the bass most out of all the instruments, but thatís definitely the case here, thereís definitely some cool instrumentation built around it, but itís pretty rare to have the guitar and drums stay more on the background and let the bass guitar kind of Ďleadí the music. That is of course, until that climax the whole song builds towards, which is honestly by far the best part of the bones, those organ-like sounding piano chords are very simple to pull off and implement, but make this final part so much better, adds that epic feel to it. Iím not too fond of the singers voice here at all, but the vocal melodies stay amazing nonetheless, making it work with his voice either way, and like you said, fits the title ďClarityĒ pretty damn well.



..Oh nice pun btw, Iím the biggest fan of well-timed puns.

8,5/10



Elite
Leprous Ė Forced Entry (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxAIsZldltA):

I think this goes without saying, but this is the longest song of the first round, of course Leprous is another one of those bands I was pretty much 100% sure of I would receive somewhere in this roulette, along with Anathema, Pain of Salvation and David Maxim Micic. That does raise my expectations a bit, but Iím not going to let that influence my scoring, Iíll be honest here, I didnít really enjoy the very first 30 seconds, followed by the first verse, but then that amazing chorus! Gawd dayumn, it kinda has the same impact on me that Feintís Snake Eyes did when the chorus kicks in (which Iím sure only Shadow Ninja has heard). So afterwards, the choir comes in, and itís very fitting for this extremely progressive style theyíre going for. The instrumental sections sound like something off of ADTOE, the kind of complex that a lot of people find to be over the top, while others love it, Iím an inbetweener in this case, nothing wrong with it but not spectacular. I didnít really say anything about this on any other write-up, but I feel like I gotta mention this here, holy crap this singer is talented, his range is tremendous, almost like that King Diamond singer :lol. I only wish the ending was less abrupt, along with the intro, which started off very suddenly, it was probably their intention, but I like my introís and outroís consistently building up, anyway, I donít know any other Leprous songs so this mightíve been the very best option overall.

8,5/10



Sacul
David Maxim Micic Ė Where Is Now? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psDZdQKgzoE):

Get creative man! Youíre so predictable. Oh well, if predictable serves good music Iíll take it, you forgot to send me some shrooms to go with this music video though, thatís gonna cost you. This is a very cool style of music that I would never see myself listen to on a regular basis, but it works so well that I want to find those situations to listen to this kind of music. So yea you said you sent some djent, was kinda skeptical about it at first, but really only that intro really sounds like djent, and after that, It becomes more of a background rhythm. What I like about this song is that it sounds very grandiose, and from that atmospheric sound with cool electronic bits mixed in (which is the good kind of electronic mix I wanted to hear), they dive right into heavy guitar riffs, joined by some bigband trumpets and some other random shit, and when I finally think Iíve heard everything thinking to myself that Sacul has done right to keep the vocals on the downside as Iím pretty picky with my vocalists, some of the craziest, but at the same time best vocal performances (the scat-man) ever flushes all those thoughts down the drain. I really wonder how this song could hop into so many different styles without ever giving me the feeling that itís too random, for instance, Haken does that sometimes (looking at you Streams), I literally laughed out loud hearing that scat singer amaze me. I donít know what this is, where it came from, but Iíd like more.

9/10



Senecadawg2
Anathema Ė Thin Air (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW0p7jQnKqg):

I remember asking for band suggestions matching my tastes in the /r/progmetal subreddit, and Iíve definitely seen this name pass by, still not sure why I never bothered to check them out, congratulations on cutting everyone off for potential Anathema submissions, you were the first, but you werenít the first to use this strategy :lol. I hadnít actually checked the song length when listening to it, but I felt like it couldíve easily gone on for atleast 1-2 more minutes, no pressure though, because for what it is, itís an amazing song, I really hope these guys have more songs that fit this calm euphoric kind of style, it builds up very steadily, and in comes the first chorus.. I feel like I could shout the chorus as loud as possible off the top of a mountain when it kicks in. :metal Seriously though, best chorus of the round, Forced Entry would be the runner-up. I also like how the standard acoustic guitar in the verses remains, but gets much more powerful and memorable in the chorus.  At first I thought it would take something very special and extraordinary for me to score exceptionally well, but Thin Air actually stays pretty simple, and why shouldnít it? Hell it works.

9,5/10




Current Standings
Senecadawg2: 9,5
Sacul: 9,0
Elite: 8,5
Evermind: 8,5
Tyrias: 8,0
425: 8,0
Bolsters: 8,0
Parama: 7,5
Mikemangioy: 7,5
LordCost: 7,5
Splent: 6,5
Shadow Ninja: 5,0



Banned during roulette:
Anathema
David Maxim Micic
Leprous
IQ
Azedia
Kamelot
Journey
Pain of Salvation
PFM
Creed
Scale the Summit
Tom Waits




So now everyone knows which popular picks are off the table, it's time to send in round 2 (if you hadn't already). Go!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on November 09, 2015, 04:22:46 AM
Cool, I can live with an 8.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2015, 04:24:32 AM
I've seen this top three in this order before.... :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 09, 2015, 04:43:17 AM
I just had to send Anathema. It was only a choice of picking which song. I'm glad you liked Thin Air so much, chances are you'll like the rest of that album a lot too.

I'll send for round two this afternoon!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 05:04:58 AM
I've seen this top three in this order before.... :neverusethis:
Haha yeah I noticed that, though at first the top three was Seneca - Sacul - Tyrias, I guess yours was more of a grower.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2015, 05:31:29 AM
I did mention that was a grower I think. Glad you liked it though. Check out the full album Bilateral and Tall Poppy Syndrome for their best stuff (although newer Leprous fans will disagree with and say Coul and/or The Congregation are better. They're wrong, even those those albums are amazing as well).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 09, 2015, 05:35:09 AM
To each their own :)

Can't wait to send the next round. And don't worry I have a ton of instrumentals I can send ;)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 09, 2015, 05:40:06 AM
Besides, I wouldnít recommend following the path of instrumentals, as vocals really complement the music for me (oh and youíd be cutting off instrumental bands for a potential instrumental themed round :lol).

This sentence makes no sense. If you don't like instrumentals, then don't host a round where you will get instrumentals only.
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Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 06:02:38 AM
Mm yea figured that could come out the wrong way, I do like instrumentals, but I want to be able to latch onto something memorable to make up for the missing vocals, like a main riff, or special twist, of course, Scale the Summit is pretty special on its own, but it's not my type of instrumental, leaning more towards the melodic side than the technical side. If I were to host an instrumental round I'll be making a list of my faves to get an idea, haven't decided if I even want to host one though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 09, 2015, 06:50:18 AM
train i recommend that you start having better taste

also sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on November 09, 2015, 07:08:11 AM
I'm pretty happy with that score. I think I'll just continue my strategy of sending stuff nobody else would probably send you (or that's at least not "classic" DTF-style), even though it's going to blow up in my face sometime. It's just a lot more interesting getting stuff outside of one's comfort zone as a roulette host (at least I thought that during my roulette).
I might come back to the melodic-dubstep thing in a later round, but most of my really good submission options were from Azedia, and then I went with something from them that was not dubstepp-y at all :lol.

Anyway, sent some electro-swing.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 07:16:44 AM
train i recommend that you start having better taste
If you promise me I won't receive any more Lemmy Kilmister. :lol

@Tyrias, it sure keeps things interesting.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Cyril on November 09, 2015, 08:41:11 AM
and it's not like that's gonna stop you from getting like at least an 8.5 with it either  :lol

see, Evermind?  :P

I've seen this top three in this order before.... :neverusethis:

holy christ i get it  :rollin


and yay, better than Tom's roulette, i'm happy
i had to go check which Anathema album that was off of because their latest three tend to blur in my mind a lot, but Thin Air is a good song yes. WHBWH iis definitely my favorite of the three recent albums
I still need to get Bilateral, :soon:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 09, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 09, 2015, 09:50:28 AM
Pretty satisfied with my 8.5 - hey, I outplayed Parama with The Road of Bones once again. Happy times. :lol

I wanted to send something from Anathema for the happy round. Damn. Kamelot also was on my radar, but I guess I can't blame 425 for sending it since I kinda introducted them to him and used many superlatives in process. :lol I guess I can strike PoS from my list too.

Will take a stab on a happy song in an hour or two.

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND ONE OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 10:26:58 AM
i had to go check which Anathema album that was off of because their latest three tend to blur in my mind a lot, but Thin Air is a good song yes. WHBWH iis definitely my favorite of the three recent albums
I still need to get Bilateral, :soon:
Had to go check out WHBWH after Thin Air, though honestly, Thin Air was by far the best choice, Angels Walk Among Us is probably my #2 choice, but that might be because it sounds most similar to Thin Air out of all of them. Overall a good album, but especially the kind of relaxing music I'll play in the background while working on stuff. Bilateral and Bilo 3.0 are on my radar aswell, will check them out sooner or later.

You wouldn't be the first one to submit an Anathema song for round 2 Evermind :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 09, 2015, 10:29:10 AM
I would've probably sent Untouchable Pt. 1 from Weather Systems. I don't like We're Here Because We're Here that much anyway.

Sent the folk rock song I've never sent in roulettes before.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 10:32:17 AM
Well if two people were about to send me the exact same song I think it's time I should check it out. ;D
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 09, 2015, 10:50:01 AM
Hell yeah :metal

Damn you Seneca for sending Anathema - no shame losing half a point to that song tho  :hefdaddy

Also, dunno what's up with that psychedelic background on the video, but I swear the album artwork is way better :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 09, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
Alright, I'll take an 8, that's a solid score! Still working on what I'm going to send next, I'll try and get that in tonight.


Kamelot also was on my radar, but I guess I can't blame 425 for sending it since I kinda introducted them to him and used many superlatives in process. :lol

Yeah... I kind of couldn't not send it. The Black Halo has been my soundtrack for the past couple of weeks and March of Mephisto my anthem. It's gotten to the point where I think people are weirded out by the fact that I'm absentmindedly singing in Latin.


I would've probably sent Untouchable Pt. 1 from Weather Systems. I don't like We're Here Because We're Here that much anyway.

Yeah, I tried to send this exact song.... What if my music library just turns entirely into Evermind's music library?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 09, 2015, 01:31:09 PM
The Black Halo was on my potential entries list, but not high on the list, so I'm not complaining about that option being closed off  :lol
I got 425 into that album in the first place so I can at least feel good about that  :hat
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 09, 2015, 01:33:58 PM
Pain Of Salvation, Leprous and Anathema already banned :(
Anathema in particular would have been perfect for the next round, now I don't know what to send.
I sent an unknown song by Creed off their best album, maybe there was a better song of them to send (maybe Torn) and I have to avoid to be too original the next rounds, but still a 7.5 is a good start!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 09, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
The Black Halo was on my potential entries list, but not high on the list, so I'm not complaining about that option being closed off  :lol
I got 425 into that album in the first place so I can at least feel good about that  :hat

:lol Yes, I was actually going to say, you're the one who sent me Memento Mori. Which is fantastic.  :heart
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 09, 2015, 02:18:25 PM
 Oh, so now you decide to post a list of your favorite bands that do instrumentals.  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 02:34:41 PM
Well I don't really listen to a lot of fully instrumental bands, Pomegranate Tiger and Intervals being the exceptions (Intervals even has a singer in their newer stuff I think), aswell as one or two AAL and CHON songs, but I kinda left the option open to do an instrumental round, which I'll probably end up not doing, because I want to create competition through rating your best possible submissions, without setting too much boundaries on what you can and cannot send. I'm aware that this round kinda does that, but I'm more interested in 12 uplifting/happy songs than 12 instrumentals at once.

Which brings me to my next point which is kinda for the same purpose, I don't want the roulette to be revolving around a solely technical approach of saving certain artists or songs for a potential themed round which you're not even sure of, so at the very least, here's all the rounds that have a theme, shouldn't be too much of a mystery to figure them out:

Come To Life - Round 5
Goliath - Round 6
The Root Of All Evil - Round 8
This Is The End - Round 10
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 09, 2015, 02:41:00 PM
i utilize literally zero strategy in sending my songs. i dont even think about it until its time to send, and then i think about it for 10 seconds and send whatever i think of first.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 09, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
???, epic round, dark round, closer round
ok

also that really explains shadow ninja's submissions a lot tbh
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 09, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
i utilize literally zero strategy in sending my songs. i dont even think about it until its time to send, and then i think about it for 10 seconds and send whatever i think of first.

It only takes you 10 seconds to forget what you've sent too
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 09, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
No, it's less than that. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 10, 2015, 12:33:51 PM
Only need Sacul, 425 and splent's songs until take off for round 2 listening phase. :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 10, 2015, 01:04:00 PM
I shall send later today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 10, 2015, 05:41:24 PM
Sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 10, 2015, 07:24:09 PM
Found a nice hole to plug - dunno if happy, but this one is pretty badass  :metal . Sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 11, 2015, 12:25:34 AM
Just sent a song from the genre that I'm calling "random songs that 425 really loves but that nobody else cares about"!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 11, 2015, 02:20:26 AM
Got them all now  :tup starting first listen tonight.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 11, 2015, 08:46:10 AM
Just sent a song from the genre that I'm calling "random songs that 425 really loves but that nobody else cares about"!
I might encourage you to send then in my roulette :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 11, 2015, 08:51:18 AM
I almost certainly will send them regardless of whether you encourage me! :lol

But don't get too excited. I don't think the reason nobody else cares about the songs is because other people think they're weird. It's because other people think, "there's nothing special about this song," while I really love it for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 11, 2015, 09:35:37 AM
Oh trust me, lots of people would say the same about some of my all-time favorites :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 11, 2015, 09:44:14 AM
Fair enough. Well, you can expect me to bombard you with a few random songs that only I seem to love.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 12, 2015, 05:13:04 AM
If it wasnít for the originality, it would still be so damn happy and energetic, but this has it all.


Which pretty much makes me forget everything that happened before, because it does barely stand out


Iím in dire straits here, because the singer sounds pretty torn between happy and sad


Itís still not a definite standout or anything, but thatís not what the song is going for anyway


The intro is very good, builds up into this burst of happiness


One of those plain fun songs, that just gets you in that happy mood right away


Iím of course talking about that breakdown, itís the heaviest thing Iíve gotten this whole round, and itís strangely fitting


Iím undoubtedly a fan of the upbeat sound, which continues to be great for the entire song


This wasnít quite the song I expected a guitar solo to be included, but it works


That bridge however, feels kinda useless to me, but itís not too long so it doesnít really make a difference


One thing that kinda annoys me is that they have such a great, groovy guitar solo, and it almost gets buried under the other instruments


It really made me appreciate the way simplistic sounding music can be hard to craft properly



Overall I'm pretty happy with this round, I think the average scores are about the same as last round, maybe even a bit higher. Definitely didn't expect it because most of you were not really comfortable with an uplifting round. :P Scores will probably range from 6.5 to 9.5, with this round having my favorite song of the roulette.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on November 12, 2015, 05:26:32 AM
One of those plain fun songs, that just gets you in that happy mood right away
This sounds a lot like mine.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 12, 2015, 07:54:34 AM
Iím in dire straits here, because the singer sounds pretty torn between happy and sad

I feel like this could, potentially, be mine, but I'm not sure. If so, I'd say that while I agree, the overall subject matter that he's singing about is not so torn.  :heart
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 12, 2015, 08:49:07 AM
considering what i sent i have no clue which of those blurbs is about mine. it's not one about it being energetic or heavy or anything, at the very least  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 12, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
Several of those could be mine, but nothing stands out as mine.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 12, 2015, 11:58:41 AM
Iím in dire straits here, because the singer sounds pretty torn between happy and sad

I feel like this could, potentially, be mine, but I'm not sure. If so, I'd say that while I agree, the overall subject matter that he's singing about is not so torn.  :heart

Don't worry, I'm sure it's mine for an obvious reason. :lol

And happiness with sadness is the best recipe for a happy song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 12, 2015, 01:04:25 PM
Hoping mine ain't 2į nor 4į  :lol

It actually looks like it's one of the least favorites of the record among fans, yet it's top 3 material for me wtf.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 12, 2015, 02:26:04 PM
Mine could be the one with the heavy breakdown
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 12, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
the only ones i think could be mine at all are 2, 4, maybe 5, and 12, because those are all such generic comments to begin with, haha
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 12, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
Aside from having a few generic comments, a few might've been taken out of context a bit, so I wouldn't take these too seriously.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 1 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 13, 2015, 01:12:53 AM
ROUND 3 Ė Wherever I May Roam
Cleared some things up between the last two rounds, so it was already revealed that this round would be open, thatís pretty much it, send me whatever, either bounce off some info from round 1, wait for round 2 results, or come up with something completely different. (Round 2 results up tomorrow)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on November 14, 2015, 04:03:28 AM
Round 3 sent. I could only find a single video of rather poor quality on Youtube for this song, so I sent a file instead. Hope that's fine.

Also for future reference: Is there a song length limit, and if so what is it?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 14, 2015, 04:41:40 AM
I think the longest song I've received was Forced Entry by Leprous, and I didn't really have a problem with it, I'm thinking about a 12-13 minute absolute max, if you feel it's accessible enough for someone who's not familiar with said group.

Also looked up your song and I'm glad you mailed it because the only real video of it on youtube has like 5 minutes of silence after the song ends. I'll edit my OP to make clear I'm also fine with mp3 files and such.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on November 14, 2015, 07:27:20 AM
Sent for round 3. I hope you won't reject it, because I'm going on a short trip until tuesday evening and will most likely not be able to resend until wednesday because of that.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 14, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
Round 2 Results!!


Bolsters
Big Big Train - Judas Unrepentant (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8hoF2OP5zI):

Hmm, 39 views, maybe the main video has quality issues or something? Whatever. I like that guitar for this specific round, but it doesnít do much else for me than invoke joy, although the singer adapts very well and pretty much neglects the fact that Iím not really into the guitar. At the very least itís safe to say this doesnít have a very usual sound, which could be applauded, but youíre definitely not the only one in this round that has the original sound :P. The vocals are starting to get very powerful near the 5th minute mark, which is probably my favorite part of the song, it makes the rest of the song more enjoyable aswell, which pretty much makes me forget everything that happened before, because it does barely stand out. Again, just a song that doesnít really do much for me, surely has itís moments, but goes on a bit too long for this type of song. This one along with the Riverside one, although at the bottom, have grown on me pretty well, making this round more action packed overall. This doesnít feel like a real outstanding worst song unlike the Tom Waits one, so this score seems about right.



7/10




Senecadawg2
Riverside Ė Discard Your Fear (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc4MSBVLF2c):

Very first impression: cool bassline, I dig it. Iím not sure how to describe the intro, but itís not all that uplifting sounding to me, though it gets beter in time,and building some tension is always ecxciting, no matter what mood. If I didnít know any better Iíd say youíre trying to score some more luck with a voice similar to that of Anathema. Iím in dire straits here, because there is something about that atmosphere for sure that makes it very fitting to the theme, but the singer, even though singing positive lyrics of overcoming fear and shame (if Iím observing this correctly), sounds pretty torn between happy and sad, I got a confirmation that itís indeed the lyrics that make it uplifting like I expected, but it still feels a bit dull to me. First round of listening left me with this one and about two others that I didnít really care for compared to the rest. After a few more listens though I realized maybe I gave this song a bit of a hard time at the start, itís still not really strong IMO, but itís not terrible either. The chorus is okay, but apart from that, nothing spectacular.
Final thoughts, definitely an artist I donít want to forget, strangely, out of the Ďmediocreí scores, this is the first artist Iím still not all that turned off by, they sound like they could potentially have stuff I would like, itís just not this.



7/10




Evermind
Mark Knopfler Ė Border Reiver (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzqNSAbE7Fo):

Yeah, I decided to allow this one, I havenít heard any Mark Knopfler solo stuff for atleast 5 years, and I canít remember anything. You hate happy rounds because you usually donít like the music yourself? Oh well, the only round I won in any of the rounds of Parama was when I sent a song I didnít like myself either. What first drew my attention to Dire Straits however, was the guitars, but he appears to be more on the background with the guitar on his solo stuff (or during Border Reiver atleast). The intro is very good, builds up into this burst of happiness around 0:55. What places this song where it stands though, Iím a sucker for these small details they throw in, right here, itís that sneaky violin and flute that keep returning. I never thought Iíd be into that typical folk rock violin at the end, but itís soothing in a way. Maybe not your most comfortable round, but this was an interesting song to say the least.



7,5/10




Mikemangioy
Papadosio Ė Puddles for Oceans  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbJTvHKERvw):

Iím eager to find out how many rounds youíll survive without sending an artist I know the name of, but itís surely interesting to discover new names. I feel like this artistís main goal with this particular song was to keep their listeners happy/joyful, which is great for an uplifting round. Literally every instrument here gives off a happy vibe, thatís not something Iíd expect at all from the bass particularly. They keep one theme for this 6 minute song and never stray away from it, may sound pretty boring when phrased like that, but itís a very cool structure. One thing that kinda annoys me near the ending is that they have such a great, groovy guitar solo, and it almost gets buried under the other instruments, wasted potential right there.



7,5/10




Parama
Sigur Růs - StarŠlfur (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8hoF2OP5zI):

30 seconds into the youtube comments and Iím already reading weird shit about some guy trying to convince me that this is not Icelandic (which it clearly is) but a made up language by Sigur Růs. One google further and it seems they use that made up language to act as an instrument to fill in non written lyrics in the studio beforehand (or something like that), thatís a pretty interesting method actually. This does work with the happy theme very well, and beautiful is a good way to describe the music overall, itís just a big contrast between this and most of the songs on this round, which are mostly pretty fast-paced, Iím glad I did receive something along these lines though, it really made me appreciate the way simplistic sounding music can be hard to craft properly, you shouldnít worry that this oneís not well-crafted or anything though, I just canít really find something in this song to really ďlatch ontoĒ, so I find myself listening to it while minding my own business until itís over and the next song starts. Basically a relaxing background song.  I got my best friend, who happens to be Icelandic, to like this song :lol and he is the type of guy who listens to Drake and such, he probably doesnít want to admit he dislikes an Icelandic song, has too much pride for it.



7,5/10




Shadow Ninja 2.0
Pineforest Crunch Ė Cup Noodle Song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvtZUa644ng):

One thingís for sure, you took the theme serious, according to your comments Iíd think otherwise :P. I donít exactly have catalogs full of songs with female singers in them, but Iím usually very open to them, and I think itís going to work out for you here just fine, because she fits really well with this type of song. It has all the things that your average happy song requires, a simple yet uplifting rhythm, catchy chorus, no instrumentals that distract from the theme. Itís still not a definite standout or anything, but thatís not what the song is going for anyway, and simplicity also has its gems. Definitely try not to lose those good music taste for atleast another.. 8 rounds, way to perform this round Shadow :tup.



8/10




Splent
Mr. Mister - Kyrie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NDjt4FzFWY):

Ah, some old-school pop/rock, two or three years ago I wouldíve skipped this song and given you a 4 or something :lol, luckily Iíve been open to a lot of different genres and styles recently. And although these ďforeign genresĒ arenít anything like the stuff I listen to in my free time, itís cool to explore them and listen to on various occasions. So the song, itís short, itís very happy, doesnít do weird complex stuff to mess it up, catchy verse, which is usually not the part I enjoy most, and the ever returning chorus is great too. That bridge however, feels kinda useless to me, but itís not too long so it doesnít really make a difference. Solid song overall, I do however typically lean more towards the modern music, but thereís plenty of good old stuff out there that I still enjoy, but I would say this worked out in your favour because itís just such a fun uplifting song. Both of the round 1 underdogs are shaping up this round :).



8/10




Sacul
Flying Colors Ė Shoulda Coulda Woulda (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSlW6tWXTgA):

Definitely heard of this band, but only because Portnoy social media feed, never listened to any of their songs. This main guitar riff is great for sure, why does it remind me of TROAE though? Iím undoubtedly a fan of the upbeat sound, which continues to be great for the entire song. Not sure if Flying Colors are going for a Matt Bellamy voice, but it definitely sounds like he influenced them somehow, very Muse-y voice. Moving on to the guitar solo, exactly what I expect from an upbeat rock song, itís fast-paced, not too much wankery, nice melodies, kinda feels like something Slash would write but a little faster. Not a big fan of the ďWanna reach backĒ part, that kinda bores me, but luckily it doesnít go on for too long. The singer doesnít stand out too much compared to the instrumentals here, but he does a great job in the chorus, which is the only part where I really feel he Ďshinesí. This is a good fit for the round but itís still far from David Maxim Micicís level.
Final thoughts: This is seemingly one of the most hated songs of the album, curious as to 1) what makes it so disliked 2) what else they have to offer on this album. This was probably one of the biggest growers of the round, at first I thought the singer was really grating, but Iíve come to appreciate it.



8/10




425
Tuomas Holopainen Ė A Lifetime of Adventure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWwSVOo5K_k):

I definitely expected something Nightwish related sooner or later, but yeah since I know Evermind does the survivors I knew he would be a big fan too. I think youíre right about leaving Nightwish open, therefore it will just be Tuomas Holopainen that will be crossed off. I mean, this sounds nothing like the things Iíve heard from NW, besides, I just right now accepted Mark Knopfler, which is almost the same situation, reversed.
I like how this song has more of an atmospherically uplifting vibe than instrumentally. Judging from the video they also hired an orchestra of some sort, which is always a good way to create an atmosphere. It makes me feel so relaxed, I just canít dislike it, not sure how you consider this to fall into the category of ďsongs only 425 seems to care forĒ, yours is most likely my favorite song of the round of all the atmospheric-ish songs (which arenít too many, but just take the goddamn compliment). This wasnít quite the song I expected a guitar solo to be included, but it works, itís actually my favorite part of the song. I havenít really mentioned the singer because itís not really outstanding in any way, sure the melodies are catchy , but itís not something I would return for.



8/10




Elite
Ben Folds Five Ė One Angry Dwarf And 200 Solemn Faces (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrWSkQMWlAY):

Wasnít sure what to expect after seeing that song name, something quirky was the first thing to come to mind, and thatís pretty much what it is. The upbeat piano is really exciting, and it continues throughout the whole song, awesome! Iím glad someone sent me something like this, I now have a perfect example of odd lyrics that work very well for the style theyíre going for, and the way they donít take them too seriously. Also, I donít think I have a single rock band in my catalog that incorporates such strong piano leads, but apparently I like it, a lot. Overall, one of those plain fun songs, that just gets you in that happy mood right away.



9/10




Tyrias
Caravan Palace - Suzy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qjomu9K0Xk):

Electro-swing is apparently what this is called. Upbeat is always the way to go, gets you pumped up and happy, so thatís good. This reminds me of an electronic and faster alternative of that Star Wars piano bar song. I didnít see the movies but that song is awesome and energetic. The difference is that this song has the upbeat kick, and a very interesting singer, reminding me of Caro Emerald, a dutch jazz/pop singer, only this one sings way faster. Youíre also the second person to send a song with a scat singer included :lol. I donít know what it is, but those scat singers never feel out of placed, despite both of them were really oddly placed. If it wasnít for the originality, you wouldíve scored high anyway because itís so damn happy and energetic. I used some of Caravan Palaceís songs at a common room party last night and it was generally liked very well :tup.



9/10




LordCost
JOLLY Ė Despite the Shell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1mE9TV54Ts):

I was very interested in this song, the background info made it a very cool concept. So what these guys did is they recorded an album involving binaural tones, which supposedly invoke happiness, now I couldnít find this anywhere, but Iíll take your word for it, they partnered with a scientific university to research the subject matter. Obviously, if Iím going to take this background information into account for your scoring, itís going to be subconsciously.
Iím pretty sure youíre going to redeem that lack of confidence in rouletteís here, this song kicks ass. Naturally, I thought the tones in the beginning were those binaural tones they were talking about, nothing spectacular IMO, but soon enough the song shapes up, the verse raises some suspense or something, and then that chorus comes in, it feels SO powerful, not to mention uplifting, some simple guitar riffing, but theyíre strong as hell. Groovy bassline near the 2nd minute mark couldíve been mixed a little better in my opinion, but great nonetheless, and the guitar solo following after does not feel out of place at all, and short enough to keep the main vibe going. Finally, something I wouldnít ever have dared to expect from the album called ďAudio Guide to HappinessĒ,  Iím of course talking about that breakdown, itís the heaviest thing Iíve gotten this whole round, and itís strangely fitting, but not all too impressive. This is probably my favorite song of the round on first listen. Now almost ready to evaluate for this round and itís grown on me even more, this is now my favorite song of both rounds!



9,5/10





Current Standings
Elite: 17,5
Sacul: 17
Tyrias: 17
LordCost: 17
Senecadawg2: 16,5
425: 16
Evermind: 16
Parama: 15
Mikemangioy: 15
Bolsters: 15
Splent: 14,5
Shadow Ninja: 13



Banned during roulette
JOLLY
Anathema
David Maxim Micic
Caravan Palace
Ben Folds Five
Leprous
IQ
Flying Colors
Azedia
Kamelot
Mr. Mister
Pineforest Crunch
Journey
Pain of Salvation
Sigur Růs
PFM
Creed
Tuomas Holopainen
Mark Knopfler
Papadosio
Riverside
Big Big Train
Scale the Summit
Tom Waits




So overall this round had a better average, I enjoyed it a lot, lots of upsides, no real downsides. I know I said it last round too, but don't feel rushed sending, this time around I won't be starting to listen until atleast wednesday.

Round 3 is Wherever I May Roam as mentioned, free round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 14, 2015, 10:19:50 AM
lol judas unrepentant in an uplifting songs round? hmm.
also i'll just keep rockin' 7.5's all roulette long i guess, that works
i should probably listen to that Jolly album considering the one song I did like a fair bit
and that Ben Folds song is great too, same rating I gave it  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 14, 2015, 10:28:46 AM
So the dire straits comment wasn't about Mark Knopfler song. Who knew? :lol

I'm not performing that well here, but I'm sending the absolute blast of a song next round. Hope you're prepared for heaviness, man.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 14, 2015, 10:32:12 AM
Yeah it was fun to send you on the wrong path there :lol I just had to put a dire straits comment in there.
i should probably listen to that Jolly album
Yes, yes you should.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
I just canít dislike it, not sure how you consider this to fall into the category of ďsongs only 425 seems to care forĒ, yours is most likely my favorite song of the round of all the atmospheric-ish songs (which arenít too many, but just take the goddamn compliment).

This is what I look for.

It falls into that category because nobody seemed to care about this album or anything, and this was the single from that album. But it was one of my favorites songs of 2014. But anyway I'm glad you liked it and I'll take the 8.

Shoulda Coulda Woulda is an interesting choice for Flying Colors. It's a decently fun song, but there are several on the album that I would sooner send for this round.

Sending soon.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 14, 2015, 10:38:06 AM
That's quite an arguable choice for Riverside, Seneca  :lol

Flying Colors' debut is fantastic, all catchy and straightforward songs.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 14, 2015, 10:39:54 AM
egoist hedonist was a riverside option on my possibilities list but i guess not anymore, yeah  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 14, 2015, 10:42:59 AM
Or Driven to Destruction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfXL2aOu9ME)  :P

Will send soon.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 14, 2015, 10:55:21 AM
yeah that was my #2 pick from adhd

but my album ranking here is basically "literally just reverse the track order and you get best to worst" where "worst" is like 9/10
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 14, 2015, 11:26:57 AM
You know, I was going to send Jolly later on, definitely. That was not the song I'd have chosen, at all. If you liked it (which you apparently did, giving it a 9.5), you're in for a treat with the rest of the record.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 14, 2015, 11:31:17 AM
yeah i'm going to try to avoid stepping on people's toes in roulettes 'cause that's no fun but i can't promise i won't send some artists people sent me at some point
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 14, 2015, 11:34:07 AM
Or Driven to Destruction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfXL2aOu9ME)  :P
That one would've done better to say the least.

Going to check out The Audio Guide to Happiness for sure!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 14, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
That's quite an arguable choice for Riverside, Seneca  :lol

You and ToN, and I will just have to agree to disagree.

Discard your fear of the unknown
be here and now
just find yourself in peace
try to free your mind
Wake up
Get unstuck
let it go
send your shame to nevermore
let it go
Scare away your fear

No more
Fear of new life
Fear of days of the unknown
Fear of new life
Fear of days of the unknown
Fear of new life
Fear of days of the unknown
fear of new life

no more fear of love
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 14, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
I mean, it's a great song, yet I think ToN would have loved some of their heavier stuff  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 14, 2015, 11:57:24 AM
sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 14, 2015, 12:06:30 PM
yeah i'm going to try to avoid stepping on people's toes in roulettes 'cause that's no fun but i can't promise i won't send some artists people sent me at some point

Same, as we've already seen from me, obviously. I'm going to try to avoid it most of the time but when it seems right to send, I'm going to send it.

And I sent a couple of hours ago.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 14, 2015, 12:54:42 PM
Sent, and I reckon this one will be my best song so far.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 14, 2015, 02:37:10 PM
I mean, it's a great song, yet I think ToN would have loved some of their heavier stuff  :P

Oh I thought you meant arguable in regards to the theme. You're definitely right about them having better songs, I just thought I'd cockblock everyone else
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 14, 2015, 02:42:49 PM
Fair enough :lol

I guess it's my turn to cockblocking now  :coolio
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 14, 2015, 11:52:21 PM
Still in 2nd to last place, but the standings are at least a little tighter now.

Hope you like what I sent you. I did send you something, right?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 15, 2015, 02:45:24 AM
Yes you did  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 15, 2015, 04:56:24 AM
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/56105/Jolly-The-Audio-Guide-to-Happiness-Part-2/
Wow! The last time I won a round was two or three roulettes ago with Anathema, I didn't expect to win! In this link you find the review where I read of binaural tones. Yes, I wasn't too confident about how the song could fit the theme without telling this story, it gets also heavy near the end. Initially I wanted to risk with The Grand Utopia, that would have been surely a song invoking happiness
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 15, 2015, 05:00:35 AM
i should probably listen to that Jolly album considering the one song I did like a fair bit
The song that Elite sent to you is from the part 1 album, mine is in part 2!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 15, 2015, 05:41:56 AM
Ye I just listened to both discs, those "Guidance" songs are a very cool way to connect the songs, and it's kinda the first thing that came to my mind when I saw the new Dream Theater tracklist, with so many tracks on it.

I'm not sure which disc I liked more, probably the 2nd, with Firewell being my favorite. That said, probably an album I'd want to buy.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 15, 2015, 05:53:03 AM
You know, I was going to send Jolly later on, definitely. That was not the song I'd have chosen, at all. If you liked it (which you apparently did, giving it a 9.5), you're in for a treat with the rest of the record.
I searched on the net before the submission and some reviewers loved The Pattern from part 1 and another one Despite The Shell from the part 2. I was not really familiar with both of them (I knew really well almost all Part 2 apart the section from While We Slept.. and As Heard On Tape, I'm a bad listener of new album in the last years..) and from part 1 I knew only half of the songs.

I think Despite The Shell offers a lot of different things and therefore is a good choice for a roulette. It has become one of my album favourites in these last days along with Firewell and the closer
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 15, 2015, 09:33:55 AM
i should probably listen to that Jolly album considering the one song I did like a fair bit
The song that Elite sent to you is from the part 1 album, mine is in part 2!
me: a person who treats two separate discs of one album as the same album  :tup
juggernaut is one album, too.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 16, 2015, 07:27:17 AM
I'd like to congratulate 425 on predicting the last sender, Elite  :P. Although in this particular situation it's not really a problem because I specifically said that I won't be starting my first listen until wednesday at least.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 16, 2015, 11:21:07 AM
Thanks, but predicting Elite as the last sender isn't exactly a major achievement :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 16, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
it's pretty clichť at this point honestly
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 16, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
Yeah, I'm a terrible guy to have in a roulette.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 16, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
you send some pretty awesome stuff tho, at least
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 16, 2015, 04:15:27 PM
Yea slow (which in this case actually means sending slow) and steady apparently does win the race (1/5 of the race that is).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 16, 2015, 04:16:42 PM
on top of which, Jolly is an Elite artist too  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 2 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 17, 2015, 12:44:29 AM
Yeah, I send Jolly a lot in roulettes. What a shame I can't do it in this one. I've got quite some staples left though, so I'll find something. I might become very predictable later on :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 19, 2015, 07:24:59 AM
Here we go, first impressions, I'm taking a bit more time for this round than the previous rounds, it's working out great, I'm getting to know these songs way better this way.


Seriously, this is the first song in the roulette to actually Ďmoveí me


Iím not even a huge fan of any of the instruments separately, but it just works so well altogether.


And even though that chorus is awesome and pretty hard not to sing along to, the guitar tops that high standard


They kick it off with a badass riff that has been stuck in my head for at least 2 days now


..a bit longer than an average length prog metal tune, and that gives them the space to go so many places with the song, and thatís exactly what they did


As a matter of fact, itís energetic as hell throughout the whole song


Itís actually pretty heavy compared to what Iíve heard from these guys before


Getting a very eerie vibe from that beginning, but dang, this person has a great voice!


I donít necessarily dislike this song, but itís doing little to nothing special for me


Iím impressed by this band, but I guess it was to be expected because theyíre not exactly obscure


Nevertheless, you really impressed me with this, I didnít expect to enjoy an ďinsert band name hereĒ submission as much as I did with this


This has original written all over it, even though it may sound a bit generic at first




I'd say this is on about the same level as round 2 overall, although there's probably a few more 9/10's, also, the top two songs of this round couldn't have possibly been more different from eachother.



Round 4 - When The Sun Goes Down
Another open round, don't get mislead by the title, Arctic Monkeys style is not a must, but it's definitely not forbidden. Send whatever, and don't rush it, results will be up this weekend, and you'll still have until about next friday to send me. Peace!

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 19, 2015, 07:45:43 AM
Seriously, this is the first song in the roulette to actually Ďmoveí me


also, the top two songs of this round couldn't have possibly been more different from eachother.

I'm definitely encouraged by these two.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on November 19, 2015, 07:49:30 AM
They kick it off with a badass riff that has been stuck in my head for at least 2 days now

As a matter of fact, itís energetic as hell throughout the whole song

I donít necessarily dislike this song, but itís doing little to nothing special for me
All potentially mine. I just have to hope it isn't the third.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 19, 2015, 07:58:12 AM
I think this is one of the few times I can't really remember what I sent  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2015, 08:09:21 AM
Quote
And even though that chorus is awesome and pretty hard not to sing along to, the guitar tops that high standard

They kick it off with a badass riff that has been stuck in my head for at least 2 days now

Those two might be mine.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 19, 2015, 08:55:36 AM
Seriously, this is the first song in the roulette to actually Ďmoveí me

Getting a very eerie vibe from that beginning, but dang, this person has a great voice!

I donít necessarily dislike this song, but itís doing little to nothing special for me

any of these seem like the best bets

hopefully not the third  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2015, 09:01:51 AM
Well that third might be anyone's. It's one of the most generic comments you can make in these teasers. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 19, 2015, 09:05:29 AM
Yeah I had a hard time making up that specific one because I literally couldn't come up with anything non-generic.  :lol

I think this is one of the few times I can't really remember what I sent  :lol
Here's a hint: You're one of the two people to send me an artist from my banlist.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 19, 2015, 09:26:30 AM
Ooohhh I remember now!

And even though that chorus is awesome and pretty hard not to sing along to, the guitar tops that high standard

They kick it off with a badass riff that has been stuck in my head for at least 2 days now

Itís actually pretty heavy compared to what Iíve heard from these guys before

Iím impressed by this band, but I guess it was to be expected because theyíre not exactly obscure

Any of these  :hat
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2015, 09:27:31 AM
You know you can view the PMs you sent, right? I always assumed people saying "I don't remember what I sent" were kidding, but I'm not so sure now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 19, 2015, 09:33:41 AM
It shows me literally 2 PMs, from months ago. That were sent to you btw  :lol .
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 19, 2015, 09:34:08 AM
yeah the only PM in my sent-box was one I sent to you as well, Evermind  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on November 19, 2015, 09:35:34 AM
Either you guys left the "Save a copy in my outbox" checkbox blank when you were sending your other PMs, or I'm just special like that.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on November 19, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
Holy shit, never noticed that one until now  :rollin :facepalm:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on November 19, 2015, 10:46:01 AM
Seriously, this is the first song in the roulette to actually Ďmoveí me

Getting a very eerie vibe from that beginning, but dang, this person has a great voice!

I donít necessarily dislike this song, but itís doing little to nothing special for me

any of these seem like the best bets

hopefully not the third  :lol

same here, I don't think any of the others could apply to my song :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: LordCost on November 19, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
It seems a great round overall, I'm positive about my choice more than I was in round 2
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 19, 2015, 11:41:25 AM
not so sure about my choice this time since it's impossible to represent this artist fairly in just one song so I just chose one I really like a lot  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 19, 2015, 01:10:40 PM
It seems a great round overall
Damn right, I haven't done the math but it's probably the highest average score yet. (That's pretty tough to beat after r2)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 19, 2015, 01:15:56 PM
EDIT: Double post
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: splent on November 19, 2015, 05:56:00 PM
 Is it bad that I don't remember what I sent you? :lol  that probably means I'm probably the one with the low score this round
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 19, 2015, 05:58:51 PM
you're getting old, splent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: splent on November 19, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
 Never mind, I remember. I don't remember exactly which song I sent, but it's one of two. Either way, I have a feeling about a few of the comments... Probably any of the last 5 could be mine
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on November 21, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
can you feel the hype in the air
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: splent on November 21, 2015, 08:34:07 PM
i knew you'd say that
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 21, 2015, 09:43:21 PM
i knew you'd say that

You're one to talk
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 04:35:05 AM
Oh right, I'm doing one more listen today and finishing write-ups during it, results will be up today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 06:54:03 AM
Round 3 Results!!




Shadow Ninja 2.0   
                           
The Tallest Man On Earth Ė The Blizzardís Never Seen The Desert Sands (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNTcA63VZ0s):

Tallest Man on Earth? Judging from Paramaís tastes (which honestly donít say that much) this is quite the risk. Well, I donít necessarily dislike this song, but itís doing little to nothing special for me, in the sense that I would never relisten this type of stuff. Itís a very short song with very few aspects to it, I kinda like his voice though, he goes a lot of places in two minutes, and while this guy isnít aiming for any crazy stuff in his songwriting, thatís the main problem Iím having, because one standard song of a genre I have never really listened to is just not going to convince me, unless it has something or someone really special that improves the whole song. Take this as a compliment as you probably couldnít have scored higher than a 6,5 with this, sure, I do like me some acoustic music at times, but these songs usually have some more rock-oriented vocals, here I go again with the Brent Smith references, but thatís the perfect example of an amazing acoustic rock singer in my eyes. 



6,5/10





425                        
Nightwish Ė I Want My Tears Back (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_42m_foek18):

Sure enough, I got my Nightwish submission, hearing this song I desperately wanted to find that one Nightwish song I knew like 8 years ago that was goddamn catchy and my dad used to spin 24/7. I found it, it was Amaranth, and I still love that song, curious whether itís acclaimed among NW fans aswell. I see where youíre coming from here, itís actually pretty heavy compared to what Iíve heard from these guys before, pleasantly surprised, but itís still a bit too straightforward for me to say much. Are those bagpipes near the end? Gotta admit thatís sweet :lol. I wish the ďI want my tears backĒ chant wasnít so cheesy, cause that does kinda wear on me. Itís not a bad song, but I definitely preferred the Tuomas song you sent me. Still, fine song overall, however I feel this band has more potential from what Iíve heard than this song.



7/10




Elite   
                   
Agent Fresco Ė See Hell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgArsBIbiFg):

I like how it starts off very fresh, itís got the upbeat rhythm, cool stuff. First off, thereís something about those Nordic accents when they sing in English that hooks me so often, this guy is no exception. This has original written all over it, even though it may sound a bit generic at first, that changes quickly as this Arnůr guy comes in strong. I usually donít really talk about lyrics too much, but ďI know my hands still reach for hell, should I feed them the fire?Ē is top notch. I guess Iím still missing that spark though,  Iím definitely not taking in this song as well as your previous ones, nonetheless itís a good song and I hope you enjoyed your concert (and Agent Frescoís, for that matter).



7,5/10




Tyrias
 Susanne SundfÝr - The Brothel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgAMh7s-q_k):

Getting a very eerie vibe from that beginning, but dang, this woman has a great voice! What I love about these open rounds is that I really get great work from all kinds of music, you got the heavy balls to the wall songs, and then you have a beautiful, peaceful balad. Itís hard to say a lot about this because it doesnít have much material to talk about, itís the kind of song I appreciate to death but wouldnít feel comfortable listening to myself. I guess I want more than just a great singer in my music, but you could barely have scored better on that level, I rarely find myself going back to a song thatís pretty much just singing, and while I think the main purpose of these instruments are to create an atmosphere of some sort, thatís where they lose me, definitely one of the most talented singer Iíve heard in quite a while though.



8/10




splent                    
Genesis Ė Firth Of Fifth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD5engyVXe0):

As a former Disturbed fan my very first taste of Genesis was Land of Confusion, great tune, but never checked out other songs by them, because it was never really my kind of music back then, but Iím pretty open to new stuff recently, and this is one of those bands I wouldnít regret delving deeper into. From the impressions I get from this song I feel like itís an excellent classic ďepicĒ-ish song, I love how the piano melody in the beginning returns later on in a spectacular fashion, followed by a nice guitar solo. Iím impressed by this band, but I guess it was to be expected because theyíre not exactly obscure.



8/10




mikemangioy                     
Animals As Leaders Ė Mind-Spun (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9lhrsB2GXA):

The first person to use an artist from the green list! Great, because Iíve been meaning to check out Animals As Leaders, I know about 4 songs and they havenít really disappointed, aside from just being too much at times. The only song I know from this album is PE, and thatís a pretty tough song to beat, but this is actually not bad, itís the kind of instrumental I enjoy listening to, itís like a systematic chaos. Iíve always said this about the few AAL songs I heard, but Tosin stands out the most every single time, heís really talented. I just think itís a shame they fade out to end the song, Iíve never liked that, apart from a few exceptions (Fade to Black for instance), I just think itís wasted potential of a song. Nevertheless, you really impressed me with this, I didnít expect to enjoy an AAL submission as much as I did with this.



8/10





Sacul                    
Porcupine Tree Ė Blackest Eyes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh9osYZNilU):

Cool, the first song to arrive from an artist I have only heard one album from. Of course these guys arenít complete strangers to me, I happen to know that they have a very diverse discography, so you might have had a lot to choose from. This song is definitely leaning more towards their heavier side, well, the beginning is pretty heavy, and not in a boring one sided way, so thatís good. As a matter of fact, itís energetic as hell throughout the whole song, the chorus being energetic in a fun kind of way, and the rest of the song is just kicking ass. Nothing to really complain about, but I simply like the upcoming songs better.



8/10




LordCost   
                         
Caligulaís Horse - Marigold (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C5qnG0GLfI):

I think Iíve heard of this band before, or maybe I just remembered the story of Caligula from my Latin classes :lol. Anyway, Iím pretty sure this is one of the bands a guy over at /r/progmetal recommended me but never bothered to check it out. I know this is a pretty new band, and that modern sound is really intriguing, they kick it off with a badass riff that has been stuck in my head for atleast 2 days now, but letís face it, the reason I like it so much is the way that singer takes this harmonic/peaceful style and turns really angry just when the chorus is about to start, itís so powerful! Still not as good as the Jolly one, but thatís going to take a lot to beat.



8,5/10




Evermind                            
Beyond the Bridge Ė Doorway To Salvation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEeHInxdgWU):

Prepared for heaviness I shall be. Gawddayumn that starting riff though, thatís the stuff. Wasnít sure what kind of song to expect after hearing that, sure enough, the least expected thing ever happens as they go full out acapella style. As soon as that male vocalist comes in I get that rock-opera feel, and itís amazing like you mentioned, however, I think it takes away from the chorus a bit, because the pre-chorus is way more memorable than the chorus itself. That said, it is probably a bit longer than an average length prog metal tune, and that gives them the space to go so many places with the song, and thatís exactly what they did, definitely not your standard song structure with an extended instrumental section, just 8 minutes of fun, well structured songwriting. Speaking of instrumental sections, that keyboard solo is so damn groovy, I wish more prog keyboard players would adapt to this style. Overall I gotta say thereís not much to complain about, I never really listened to anything that I considered to have an opera style to it (no, SFAM is not a rock opera in my book guys), but itís quite cool, might listen to this entire concept album sometime soon.



9/10




senecadawg2                     
Damien Rice Ė 9 Crimes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqOSCgc8xc):

What a beautiful voice, and such a beautiful girl too andÖ OH MY GOD WHEREíS HER BODY. Seriously, this is the first song in the roulette to actually ďmoveĒ me, it makes the very common song subject of cheating seem so damn devastating, you know a song is doing good if you're willing to find out about the background and stuff, so I guess not only the music hooked me, but the story did too. I always scan through the song to start off the round, just out of curiosity, and I was really scared that this would be a very boring, samey song, that was of course until I actually listened to the song a few times, it started to grow on me tremendously quickly.  We now have perfect examples of both singer-songwriter songs gone wrong, and right, make notes people!



9/10




Bolsters                
Thunderstone Ė Feed The Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwqw4I6spfw):

Starting it off with an epic guitar riff right off the bat, and strong anthemic vocals. This actually reminds me of the music my dad used to listen to, still checking out some of his old CDís every once in a while, but I donít think Iíve ever heard of Thunderstone, then again, it doesnít really look like they have yet to make a big name for themselves. What can I say? Itís a great heavy metal tune,  you just get it, nothing too complex, just some straight up heavy stuff, worked before with Journey (talking about the straightforward stuff ofcourse, not heavy) but I feel this is working better just because itís so damn catchy, and even though that chorus is awesome and pretty hard not to sing along to, the guitar tops that high standard and turns this great song into an even greater song.



9/10




Parama                 
Thrice Ė Wood & Wire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7c5daG-xIo):

Just the perfect relaxing music, couldnít have hoped for a better song in this category. The best moments in music are when you have absolutely no idea what makes you like it so much and just go along with it, I could have this as my background theme song for days man. Iím not even a huge fan of any of the instruments separately, but it just works so well altogether, although I guess those drums have eventually grown out to be my favorite thing of it all, kinda gives off a laid back vibe. First off during the rating phase I wanted to have three songs tied for first, but there was no doubt that if one of them would be #1 it would be this song, and thatís what happened after a few more listens. Enjoy your failed 7,5 strategy!



9,5/10






Current Standings:
LordCost: 25,5
senecadawg2: 25,5
Sacul: 25
Tyrias: 25
Evermind: 25
Elite: 25
Parama: 24,5
Bolsters: 24
425: 23
mikemangioy: 23
splent: 22,5
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 19,5



Banned during roulette:

JOLLY
Thrice
Anathema
Damien Rice
David Maxim Micic
Thunderstone
Beyond the Bridge
Ben Folds Five
Caravan Palace
Caligula's Horse
Leprous
IQ
Flying Colors
Azedia
Kamelot
Porcupine Tree
Susanne Sundfor
Genesis
Mr. Mister
Pineforest Crunch
Tuomas Holopainen
Journey
Animals As Leaders
Pain of Salvation
Agent Fresco
Sigur Růs
PFM
Creed
Mark Knopfler
Papadosio
Nightwish
Riverside
Big Big Train
Scale the Summit
The Tallest Man On Earth
Tom Waits



Great scores overall guys! I think it's safe to assume you bested the last round yet again, haven't done the calculations but it sure looks like it, which means there's still not that big of a gap, so all in all, go send me some bad songs so there will be a more clear border between top and bottom!  ;D

Next round is open, I think I've received 2 so far, get them in by Tuesday/Wednesday.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 22, 2015, 07:03:36 AM
Yeah, the male fronted pre-choruses on this song are total blast. When I listen to this song at work with my headphones on, everyone probably thinks I'm crazy on these moments. :lol Good to see I've got my first 9 in this roulette.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on November 22, 2015, 07:06:39 AM
Well, I can definetely live with an 8. Given your comment, I should have probably sent another song by her with more going on in the instrumental part of the song.
Also, I think I haven't commented on round 2 yet. Glad you liked that style so much, Caravan Palace are such a fun band and the kind of music I'd totally start dancing to on the street if it came up on my Ipod, screw people thinking I look ridiculous.

I'm kind of torn for what to send for the next round. Given I'm performing really well in this so far, I don't really want to send something super risky that might score me like 2, but then I also kind of want to introduce you to as much weird music as possible. ::)
Will probably send tomorrow
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 22, 2015, 07:09:13 AM
Sweet- like where this is going! Also, had a feeling the 'moved me' comment was about that song, if for no other reason than the fact that it moves me more than any of the songame I've submitted or seen submitted so far.

I'll be sending my next tune later today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 08:00:54 AM
Also, I think I haven't commented on round 2 yet. Glad you liked that style so much, Caravan Palace are such a fun band and the kind of music I'd totally start dancing to on the street if it came up on my Ipod, screw people thinking I look ridiculous.
Yeah me too, kind of getting the runner's high feel, but without the exhausting bit before.  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 08:27:05 AM
yeah Thrice is basically awesome  :tup
also it's funny that both the failed and successful singer/songwriter entries also failed and succeeded in my roulette much the same  :lol

also RIP porcupine tree and caligula's horse entries
at least that means my round 4 entry is safe  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 22, 2015, 08:32:26 AM
The Brothel is probably the song I underappreciated the most in my roulette, and it scored 9/10. If I could change the score now, I'd go for 10/10. Absolutely glorious song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 08:53:25 AM
I find that kind of thing so hard to rate, because first, rating them individually seems the logical thing to do, but then you see various songs you like less turn out higher for some reason, it makes it harder with a completely different style of music, but I try to do my best and 8/10 seems good for now, I already regret a few of my earlier scores tho, but that's just how it goes when songs grow on you.

also RIP porcupine tree and caligula's horse entries
at least that means my round 4 entry is safe  :lol
Been meaning to talk about Caligula's Horse when I coincidentally saw that thread pop up  :lol


P.S. I checked out that Pyramid Theorem thread and I've been pretty much spinning them non-stop, don't bother sending them if anyone ever planned to in the first place.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
i guess i'll go check out that album too then, my to-listen list has been pretty well cleared enough for me to be able to now  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 09:16:58 AM
Be prepared for an epic 29 minute closer.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
oh man my favorite thing ever :V
nah but i'm listening to this and it's pretty solid. actually liked the instrumental track the most thus far, i think, which is interesting  :lol
but yeah the epic is what's on now woo
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
Nice! Hope you have fun getting into PT ;)

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 10:43:44 AM
Nice! Hope you have fun getting into PT ;)
Sure will! Their catalog is huge though, I guess I'll start with In Absentia and figure where to go from there on.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 10:43:55 AM
deadwing next
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 22, 2015, 10:46:41 AM
Deadwing was already on my banned list ;), that's probably why he sent me something from In Absentia.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on November 22, 2015, 10:53:07 AM
Sent my next song, hopefully not too risky. But I think I've only gotten good receptions for that song so far, so I hope it should be fine.
And yeah, Susanne Sundfor is amazing, I would have given that song a 9.5 probably, but I can live with an 8.

Also, that Tallest Man On Earth song is like one of his bottom 5 songs, in my opinion. If you find some time in between, check that live performance out for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qc2ss5HnEE
Check out timestamps 8:10 (Love is All), 12:55 (King of Spain) and 32:42 (where do my bluebird fly)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2015, 11:34:34 AM
After In Absentia, go with Fear of a Blank Planet.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 11:47:44 AM
oh

then either lightbulb sun or fear of a blank planet
personally I like lightbulb sun more but they're both goodj
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 22, 2015, 11:50:21 AM
If you prefer pop-rock, Stupid Dream.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 22, 2015, 11:51:07 AM
sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 22, 2015, 11:53:02 AM
i still need to get signify and stupid dream

i feel like the incident i can safely skip for now, as well as anything before the sky moves sideways, but signify especially has always sounded like my kinda jam and dark matter is fantastic so it's a small crime i don't have it yet (that i've got no excuse for :neverusethis:)

also listening to that AAL song
i like it more than physical education, but only by a little.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on November 22, 2015, 12:00:18 PM
Personally, The Incident is one of my favorite ones of theirs, probably fourth behind the big three (IA-FOABP). I really like it quite a bit. Probably because it's more stripped back and has less "SW tries to do weird stuff."


I'm a little disappointed in my score this time, but that's okay. I'll try to figure out something to send today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: splent on November 22, 2015, 12:45:26 PM
This is going to be a close roulette.

I ALMOST sent Watcher of the Skies but I love the middle section of FOF.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 22, 2015, 04:32:04 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 23, 2015, 11:05:36 AM
Sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 24, 2015, 08:13:06 AM
Alright I got everyone's entry except for Sacul, Elite and 425. Will (hopefully) start listening thursday.

Oh there's also 2 songs from the same artist, but I won't ask any of you to resubmit because they're from different albums and I trust that you know what you're doing  ;D if there comes in a third one of them I will ask to resubmit though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 24, 2015, 09:51:31 AM
considering the artist i sent i would not be surprised in the least if it was the artist i sent
i'd actually be quite happy
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 24, 2015, 09:53:51 AM
Looking at the list of participants, I don't think anyone else has sent a huge power metal song for this round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 24, 2015, 10:03:06 AM
I wouldn't put it past me


I can't say for sure, though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 24, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
mostly there was a pretty large, obvious hole that i hadn't yet plugged but wanted to plug
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 24, 2015, 10:16:05 AM
mostly there was a pretty large, obvious hole that i hadn't yet plugged but wanted to plug
I bet everything I have that I sent the same artist of Parama :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 24, 2015, 10:19:39 AM
When I sent the song yesterday I was waiting for your message for telling me to resubmit, I was surprised that it didn't arrived
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 24, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
Sent some djent-pop before somebody cockblocks me  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 24, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
destiny potato like whoa
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 24, 2015, 11:01:48 AM
ssshhhh sekrit!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 24, 2015, 12:15:40 PM
mostly there was a pretty large, obvious hole that i hadn't yet plugged but wanted to plug
I bet everything I have that I sent the same artist of Parama :lol
You're wrong, I'll tell you that much. Now give me everything you have!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on November 24, 2015, 03:49:51 PM
Ahaha I don't believe it!  :laugh: He sent Thrice and PoS which were two bands I would have sent in this roulette. I sent a band that he likes, and it was a quite obvious hole like Parama has said
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 24, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
now i have to worry if you stole an artist i wanted to send  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 24, 2015, 06:03:25 PM
Now this makes me worry about how to handle several people sending the same artist in a round when I make my v2  :lol I'll have a special rule that might lead to some trouble like this, but hopefully not  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on November 24, 2015, 07:22:54 PM
Oh there's also 2 songs from the same artist, but I won't ask any of you to resubmit because they're from different albums and I trust that you know what you're doing
I don't have a clue what I'm doing, actually.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 26, 2015, 02:57:07 AM
Small announcement: Updated the banlist with some artist that I forgot should be on there, although even if I do receive something I know it shouldn't really be a problem for you to resubmit.

I'm hoping to have all the R4 songs by the end of the day, tomorrow is fine too, but I'd like to start listening by the beginning of the weekend because I'm fairly busy near the end of the weekend. (Sending PM's to the remaining people just in case)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 26, 2015, 10:00:31 AM
good luck getting the last songs today if the people who still need to send are american  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 28, 2015, 01:36:25 PM
Gonna give you guys a heads up here, I will score a little more accurately from here on, but my generosity affected everyone in the same amount (honestly), so no one is being favoured here. I just feel that my standards for 'good' and 'great' songs should be higher, even though I'm pretty easily p leased when it comes to music, I'll stick to a format for grading songs that I'll probably post here shortly, so this is nothing more than a confirmation that next round's scores should be looked at with a grain of salt.

Also, while I'm here I might aswell say that I will keep my writeups to the shorter side, I'm already preparing for a top 50 albums thread and on top of that I got school stuff to worry about.
Which means my first impressions will likely be general comments instead of actual quotes. (They'll be up by the end of the weekend at worst)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 28, 2015, 01:43:18 PM
if your 7.5's were you being generous then i'm excited for your 6.5's from here on
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 28, 2015, 01:47:34 PM
Particularly the last round, althougj the Thrice song would still be 9.5. Idioglossia grew more on me and probably would be higher than a 7.5, but I want to give every song the same amount of time, and at that point I thought it was the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 28, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
do relistens at some point bro  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 28, 2015, 02:13:51 PM
I do relisten them a lot, and I'm planning on revisiting everything eventually. But at some point I have to decide that it's been plenty and that it's time to come to a score.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on November 29, 2015, 09:59:15 AM
How bold my statement from yesterday might've been, I guess I'm just too easily pleased, there probably won't even be a drop in scores because I just like so much, although highest and lowest scoring songs in rounds will still be apart from eachother enough to make a good difference.
I'm gonna go ahead and announce the double artist here, so you'll both know what you're up to, aswell as the other contestants: Ayreon.
I decided to accept them both, because it's Ayreon, and if I've heard anything from this band, it's that they're diverse, incorporate a lot of guest artists, besides, the songs are from different albums.

I'm noticing a bunch of you are sticking to certain themes/genres, so at this point I almost identify some of you by music taste, pretty neat.
Scores will range from about 6.5/7 to 9.5/10.


And finally, to mix things up a bit, have all the artist names in random order:

- Avantasia
- Voices from the Fuselage
- ŃrstŪūir
- Ayreon
- Santigold
- Queen
- Jeff Buckley
- Celdweller
- Glen Hansard
- Ayreon
- Oceansize
- Destiny Potato
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 29, 2015, 10:01:25 AM
well Glen Hansard is the 9.5

also RIP Oceansize  :(
damn you LordCost
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 29, 2015, 10:41:00 AM
I always thought Ayreon is pretty much non-roulette project, because if you send a song by them, you are ripping it out of context and every Ayreon album must be listened in full. I'm curious to see what people have sent.

ŃrstŪūir is probably Tyrias' pick, he sent the same combo (Susanne Sundfor and ŃrstŪūir) in my roulette.

Well, anyway, I'm re-listening to the track I've sent and damn it's so great. I've no regrets.


Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 29, 2015, 10:54:05 AM
You sent Avantasia, didn't you? :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on November 29, 2015, 10:56:27 AM
You sent Avantasia, didn't you? :lol

Of course I did.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 29, 2015, 10:58:20 AM
I always thought Ayreon is pretty much non-roulette project, because if you send a song by them, you are ripping it out of context and every Ayreon album must be listened in full. I'm curious to see what people have sent.
well i suck anyways so it's all ok
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 29, 2015, 11:15:21 AM
i wonder who sent destiny potato




:P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Elite on November 29, 2015, 03:39:30 PM
it wasn't me
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on November 30, 2015, 01:38:41 PM

ŃrstŪūir is probably Tyrias' pick, he sent the same combo (Susanne Sundfor and ŃrstŪūir) in my roulette.

You know me too well, sir.

Or at least my roulette sending habits ::)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 30, 2015, 02:18:28 PM
You sent the same band on my roulette  :P

I wonder who cockblocked me sending Destiny Potato :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 30, 2015, 02:21:31 PM
:jamaritard:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on November 30, 2015, 02:24:46 PM
:vomitard:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on November 30, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
:splodetard:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 04:18:34 AM
Round 5 - Come To Life

Surprised Parama couldn't guess this one, it seemed pretty obvious to me, Come To Life is a themed round for opener songs (maybe the positioning of the round put you off :footloose:), you can go ahead and send me in advance for round 5, though results will likely be up today, so you might want to wait for results first if you care at all. So yea hit me up with your best album openers, or songs you think would fit well as a first song on an album, I'll likely listen to these songs separately instead of the usual album form, to get more of that intro feel, if that information matters for your song choice.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Elite on December 02, 2015, 05:29:14 AM
Post results first. I'm notorious for not sending before there are results :|
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 08:05:59 AM
I'll wait for results too. And luckily I haven't sent any real openers in the first four round. Mark Knopfler - Border Reiver is in fact an opener, but I wouldn't say it has that pronounced particular feel.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 09:34:23 AM
Round 4 Results!



LordCost
Oceansize Ė Music for a Nurse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3-5916EsI4):

Meh, this is not doing a whole lot for me, especially the intro seems to go on for way too long, and even if it kinda has a similar sound to Thrice, this strangely has a way lower impact on me, Overall I think the structure of the song is nice, but feels empty alot of times. Definitely falling into the category of Ďnot for meĎ, though Iím still not sure if Iíve had a real impression of Oceansize, maybe theyíre not all that bad, but thsi song doesnít really stand out.


7/10



Shadow Ninja 2.0
Santigold Ė The Riotís Gone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTrVLGYrrU):

Surprise surprise, Shadow sending something Iím totally unfamiliar with, and Iím not only talking about the band, this whole music style is something new to me, although I donít think itís too bad. Itís a very happy song, and I like happy songs, though these drums do kinda wear on me, who thought that would be a good idea? Anyway, solid song and kudos for risktaking, but Iím more and more starting to wonder what ever brought you to Dream Theater, your tastes must be all over the place.


7.5/10



Parama
Ayreon Ė Betrayal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1q_uCY_lcs):

Itís impossible to browse the DTF without noticing the title ĄThe Human Equationď, naturally I shouldíve checked it out, but didnít, thanks for giving me the opportunity. I guess this is the definition of a rock opera? I am into it, but I bet this is 10 times more fun when they do it live, and also, when listening to the whole album. Nonetheless itís some very epic stuff, mainly the vocals, and the overall concept isdefinitely interesting enough for me to check out the album. Kept enjoying this more on later notice, and even though it has turned out better than it started, the other Ayreon song beats yours.


8/10



Tyrias
ŃrstŪūir Ė Shades (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5acW5p1glhY):

One thing I really like about this is how itís way more focused on the instrumentation (mostly the violins) than the vo-cals, and damn, those are some cool violins for sure. Oddly enough, youíre not the only person to send me some cool violin leads. Everything works here, even the vocals which seemed underwhelming at first, are starting to grow on me. Solid track, and I can proudly say I have over 10% of the total views of this song.


8/10



Splent
Queen Ė Killer Queen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZBtPf7FOoM):

You know, Iíve always pretty much canceled out things like Queen, because most of their classic hit songs bored me to death, Iím pretty sure I mentioned them in that PM, but We Are the Champions and We Will Rock You are some of the most boring songs Iíve heard. This on the other hand, is just a super fun little song, fun, exactly the word I wanted to use, which is the same reason why I like Bohemian Rhapsody so much, Queen can just be so quirky while still being interesting. Good choice, you couldíve probably done much, much worse with Queen, but what do I know, maybe they have tons of these songs.


8.5/10




Mikemangioy
Ayreon Ė Unnatural Selection (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebHbuL3l12Q):

I wasnít sure whether to accept this submission, but I heard a lot about Ayreon and know they can be very diverse, and I saw that this was from a different album. Iím definitely liking this one more than Betrayal, itís very groovy and has super strong vocals, opposed to those of Betrayal which were more melodic and harmonic. You chose wisely, liking this song a lot and will probably check out both Ayreon albums in the end, but this one has my priority.


8,5/10



Sacul
Destiny Potato Ė Love Song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TbmPPNQD5s):

Definitely heard of this band, I think my brother listens to it, he also recognized David Maxim Micic so that must be it. I must be a bigger djent fan than I thought I was, because this stuff is pretty impressive, however that may be because the vocals arenít your everyday standard djenty vocals. Also noticing some bits DMM used in Where Is Now? With the Ągone awayď section. Iíve strangely been staying away from Destiny Potato, but itís pretty cool, I should check out this band some time.


8,5/10



Bolsters
Celdweller Ė End of an Empire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i4x8PC25nY):

I definitely heard Celdweller before, but only one song (Shapeshifter), pretty sure it was in Need for Speed MW. It kinda reminded me of Linkin Park, but this song is leaning more towards the electronic side that youíve been meaning to try out in this roulette. I like what Iím hearing, even though itís kinda repetitive vocally. I guess after some more listening Iím more into those electronic drum beats than I thought, and screw it, thereís even a kickass breakdown in this, I canít dislike this. You definitely know what youíre doing in these open rounds, hope the next round will suit you better than the last themed round though!


9/10



Senecadawg2
Glen Hansard Ė Bird of Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIGCpWi5dIs):

Youíre building up quite the reputation here, first Damien Rice and now this? Comparing this to 9 Crimes, I feel thereís some moments that surpass that song by miles, but some weaker points aswell, so Iím probably going to end up giving you roughly the same score, which really isnít a bad thing. Talk about emotional vocals, holy crap, I know BIZKIT wasnít sure what his favorite aspect of the song was, but I sure am. At this point Iím actually pretty curious what you have in store when it comes to heavier sounds, but I guess I canít complain if you choose to continue like this.


9/10



Elite
Jeff Buckley Ė Grace (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3adFWKE9JE):

I honestly donít know how I donít know this guy, his music sounds like something I would atleast have heard of, I love how this kinda sounds like a less crazy sounding Cedric from The Mars Volta (though thereís nothing wrong with his craziness), but aside from that, this guy sure had talent like no one else in this round, even compared to Glen Hansard.
Man this song just starts off pretty normally, and catches me off guard every single listen when Jeff starts singing, could listen to him for days. Instruments in the background arenít doing as much for me as the vocals, but I guess thatís the point of  a singer-songwriter.


9/10



Evermind
Avantasia Ė Scarecrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-PkfKZAT6E):

Man, my to-listen list is just too big, thank you for sending me a potential gateway song to Avantasia. The guitarwork on this is simply amazing, and Iím not even talking about the solo, which goes beyond that. But what makes this song so cool is how it starts off powerful, has a very big game soundtrack-ish middle section, and ends even more pow-erful. Hell, they even have some similar-to-Drum Ďn Bass shit going on at 9:00, what the fuck :lol, Iím loving this song.
Yea revisiting every roundís winner, this one is probably about as good, so I feel like this song suits it well.


9,5/10



425
Voices from the Fuselage Ė Meteorites (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUmGrQkc0Zw):

This is more like it, only a couple of seconds and Iím already into it, really liking this singer, apparently itís the ex-singer of TesseracT, which explains my love for it. Instruments are very strong, although itís not the main attraction[, that is, until the Ąhave I lost youď part, that segment is killer! I think youíre doing more than fine here, because while you may or may not end up in the top of the leaderboards in this roulette, The Black Halo is already growing on me awfully quickly, and this album is now pretty high on my to-listen list aswell. And in the end, itís not about winning in roulettes, itís about pleasing the needs of a lazy host who lacks the ability to explore music himself.
Okay, final listen, and this one is not only my favorite of the round, but it also beats every winner of previous rounds, I might be favoring Ashe here, heís been one of the best singers in my book for a while now, but itís the power of the instruments that make it so perfect as a whole.
To top it off, I compared this song to all the round winners, and this one was clearly my favorite, well deserved 10.

You'll probably like this okay.


10/10



Current Standings:


Evermind: 34,5
senecadawg2: 34,5
Elite: 34
Sacul: 33,5
425: 33
Tyrias: 33
Bolsters: 33
Parama: 32,5
LordCost: 32,5
mikemangioy: 31,5
Splent: 31
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 27


I'll update the banned during roulette list later on, but you don't need me to point out the banned artists so w/e, I'm just copy-pasting this in a rush, so if the current standings don't add up I'll correct it when I get home.


Am I being too generous? Maybe, but it's not like I don't have any standards at all, I genuinely like the 8+ songs a lot, enough to check them out further, so if that means I'll have to check out like 80 albums afterwards, I don't care, I'll find a way :lol, good going guys, you never fail to amaze me.
P.S. like mentioned earlier, send your album opening songs to me whenever you can, don't have any plans for a certain date to start listening so take your time.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:01:05 AM
man i wish I liked meteorites that much, i still can barely remember any part of it other than the intro
also why does oceansize always do bad what's wrong with you people
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 02, 2015, 10:07:51 AM
Oceansize tends to be a grower, I think. They definitely were for me, at least.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: LordCost on December 02, 2015, 10:11:49 AM
I tried Savant, Trail Of Fire and now Music For A Nurse, but in all those three roulettes I didn't have great results. This time I was particularly not confident about the song, as post-rock songs has ruined my score in your roulette too, Parama :sad:
Next time I will try with Catalyst, A homage to a Shame, something simple and direct and if it will fail again I think that we have to stop sending Oceansize :D
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:13:35 AM
liking post-rock a fair bit also tends to help  :lol
and also i can't complain about unnatural selection beating out betrayal, i'm the weird exception that really likes betrayal while unnatural selection is just a generally great track

and if you don't get high marks with catalyst or unfamiliar then it's a failure of the roulette runners, not the band themselves  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
My only complaint: the song's name is The Scarecrow. It's so epic it deserves this "the". :biggrin:

Iím loving this song.

Oh man, so am I. So am I.

Also, both choices for Ayreon are :facepalm: in my opinion. Unnatural Selection is one of the weakest tracks from 01011001 baring Connect the Dots, Web of Lies, E=MC2 and maybe Newborn Race; Betrayal is just a weird song to send, it's great but it doesn't represent The Human Equation at all. Why not Isolation? Or if you wanted to go weird, why not Loser? We could have had some fun at least with the latter.

(Everything from The Human Equation - except the very ending - worked better live. I can attest to that.)

I really (really really) need to check out Voices from the Fuselage further. I think I've heard this album once and wasn't impressed, but it was on Monday morning at 6 A.M. and nothing usually impresses me at that time.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Elite on December 02, 2015, 10:28:34 AM
^ I agree with everything the Russian said.

LordCost, try sending Massive Bereavement next time. Made me an instant fan in my first roulette!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:28:43 AM
Unnatural Selection would be like #4 or 5 on the album for me, Age of Shadows, Liquid Eternity, Beneath the Waves, and The Sixth Extinction are probably all better tracks. but 01011001 is pretty great yeah.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on December 02, 2015, 10:29:23 AM
Yeah, Oceansize was a really weird growing-process for me. At first I was like "what do people like so much about this? i listened to that album 3 times now and I don't remember a single riff", but then I came back for the special feeling their music evokes in me everytime. It's not really something I can describe, but I feel like everytime I listen to one of their albums it has kind of the mix of listening to something familiar, but it feels new all the same. Also, I have "Oceansize-phases" were I just listen to Oceansize exclusively for a few days straight more than for any other kind of band, but when I don't listen to them I never feel an urge to put them on. Not sure if that made any sense, but they're probably in my top 5 bands ever (or at least top 10).

Also, sending Trail of Fire has been rather successful for me in roulettes.

Glad you liked my song, though. Kind of frustrating that I'm doing really well consistently and I'm still only middle of the field.

I was thinking about sending a post-rock song for next round, but after that Oceansize result I'm not too sure anymore. Will think a bit on what I want to send and send tomorrow.

Also, is there a maximum song length? And does our song have to be the first song of an album or are you going for an opening feeling?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 10:34:44 AM
Unnatural Selection would be like #4 or 5 on the album for me, Age of Shadows, Liquid Eternity, Beneath the Waves, and The Sixth Extinction are probably all better tracks. but 01011001 is pretty great yeah.

Well, let's see, for me it goes...

1. Beneath the Waves
2. Waking Dreams
3. River of Time
4. Liquid Eternity
5. Comatose
6. The Sixth Extinction
7. Age of Shadows
8. The Fifth Extinction
9. The Truth Is Out There
10. Ride the Comet

11. Unnatural Selection

But hey, mike got 8.5, so it worked and he scored more than you.

Why have you sent Betrayal again?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 02, 2015, 10:39:13 AM
I'm pretty cool with this score, yup.

You should first check a certain Swans album, Evermind :neverusethis:

Bands I still don't find what's amazing about them: Tool, Oceansize, Metallica, Coheed... :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 10:44:05 AM
You should first check a certain Swans album, Evermind :neverusethis:

Honestly, I uploaded it on my phone but damn this album is so long I'm afraid to spin it. I can't listen to it on the road because it's 30 minutes longer than needed and I can't spin it at work because there's no way I'm going to work two hours uninterrupted. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:44:25 AM
Why have you sent Betrayal again?
because it's basically my favorite ayreon song
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on December 02, 2015, 10:48:28 AM
Okay, my options right now are death metal, folk/country, post-rock or turbo-polka.

I will think about it and send tomorrow.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 11:02:19 AM
Yea the reason you're getting consistently high scores but aren't in the top because I'm being a dick by giving pretty much everyone high scores, but yeah, the scores are still pretty close, but because of my grading you have smaller chances to climbup quickly.

About Ayreon, I'll check out everything soner or later so I'm not too worried that I missed out with these songs.

Oh and song lengths shouldn't be over like 14 minutes, besides, there's a round based on song lengths that'll allow you to send me like up to 20-30 minute tracks if you feel the urge to. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 11:04:51 AM
yeah goliath is a pretty obvious epic round  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: LordCost on December 02, 2015, 11:10:45 AM
^ I agree with everything the Russian said.

LordCost, try sending Massive Bereavement next time. Made me an instant fan in my first roulette!
I thought to that song, but then I told myself to send a song popular among fans. I'm not a big fan of Ornament/The Last Wrongs, so Music For A Nurse was a better choice for me

It was hard for me to appreciate Frames and Self Preserved, but not the first two albums, there were songs like Meredith, Heaven Alive or Catalyst that I could remember from the first listen
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 02, 2015, 11:15:16 AM
I'm probably going to send Devil Doll for the epic round.

Hope nobody else sends them. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 02, 2015, 11:17:35 AM
Why have you sent Betrayal again?
because it's basically my favorite ayreon song

Yeah, well, I get it then. :tup

I'll send something tomorrow or Friday evening.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 12:12:20 PM
My only complaint: the song's name is The Scarecrow. It's so epic it deserves this "the". :biggrin:
Oh crap, I guess I mixed it up because there's this album I've been listening to a lot lately which has a title track without "the" and the album name with "the", I believe that album is called The Astonishing or something :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on December 02, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
Wow, yay!

It really is a great song, a really great song. I absolutely love the "Have I lost you" part. I had no expectations for that round at all, so I'm really pleased with the score here!

I'll work on something probably far inferior to send tonight.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 02, 2015, 01:13:20 PM
You should first check a certain Swans album, Evermind :neverusethis:

Honestly, I uploaded it on my phone but damn this album is so long I'm afraid to spin it. I can't listen to it on the road because it's 30 minutes longer than needed and I can't spin it at work because there's no way I'm going to work two hours uninterrupted. :lol
Take my advice: make a special playlist containing the album songs, and order it with Lunacy as the opener, and then the whole second disc, which is quite more accessible than the first one, and doesn't have the mothafucking 30 mins behemoth that is the title track. And eliminate the rest of disc 1 from the playlist. Trust me, if you can't sit through it all, this should help :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: splent on December 02, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Yes.

I may be in 2nd to last place but I'm only 3.5 pts behind 1st so it's still anyone's game.

Regarding Queen, YES THERE IS MUCH MORE IN THEIR CATALOGUE THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT!!!!!!! Give them a chance. :)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 02, 2015, 07:53:08 PM
Senecadawg2
Glen Hansard Ė Bird of Sorrow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIGCpWi5dIs):

Youíre building up quite the reputation here, first Damien Rice and now this? Comparing this to 9 Crimes, I feel thereís some moments that surpass that song by miles, but some weaker points aswell, so Iím probably going to end up giving you roughly the same score, which really isnít a bad thing. Talk about emotional vocals, holy crap, I know BIZKIT wasnít sure what his favorite aspect of the song was, but I sure am. At this point Iím actually pretty curious what you have in store when it comes to heavier sounds, but I guess I canít complain if you choose to continue like this.

I might just do that...

Glad you enjoyed the song!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 OPEN
Post by: Bolsters on December 02, 2015, 08:17:27 PM
hope the next round will suit you better than the last themed round though!
I think I've made a wise decision this time, we'll have to wait and see though. I'm sending an email now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 02, 2015, 08:31:25 PM
I'd forgotten about the theme and already sent.

I think I'll stick with it, though it's not the most obvious opener, since it is the first track on its album.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on December 02, 2015, 08:33:21 PM
I went with a song that is the first on its album just to be safe. :lol Though even if it weren't, it would fit this theme wonderfully regardless.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 08:38:34 PM
yeah I sent an actual album opener that also sounds like an album opener
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 4 RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 02, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
shit apparently i haven't sent anything. hold up i will do that now

edit: or maybe i did. I can't remember. arg
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 10:24:01 PM
From now on, just check the title when in doubt.

Regarding Queen, YES THERE IS MUCH MORE IN THEIR CATALOGUE THAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT!!!!!!! Give them a chance. :)
Awesome, will check it out!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:24:57 PM
did i send
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Train of Naught on December 02, 2015, 10:27:19 PM
Yea but I don't think you understand how a roulette works because you sent 3 songs for a single round :neverusethis: (jk you're good)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Sacul on December 02, 2015, 10:30:24 PM
i haven't sent yet
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Cyril on December 02, 2015, 10:34:27 PM
difference between tracks and songs, nyeh  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 03, 2015, 06:35:48 AM
haha, thanks
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Tyrias on December 03, 2015, 06:52:07 AM
Fuck this, let's go the risky way.

Turbo-polka it is.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Evermind on December 04, 2015, 07:22:50 AM
Sent an absolutely brilliant progressive metal opener, released this year.

Also, Sacul, I'm trying to PM you and it says you can't receive personal messages. Would've been nice if you fixed it somehow. :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Elite on December 06, 2015, 10:22:44 AM
Sent a random song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Cyril on December 06, 2015, 10:25:39 AM
randomly-generated music is boss
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: splent on December 06, 2015, 12:05:51 PM
I'll send today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Shadow: You have sent!
Post by: Train of Naught on December 06, 2015, 12:18:00 PM
Cool, I'll start listening tomorrow then.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 08, 2015, 01:16:15 PM
I gots everything, I think I'll have results up this weekend, don't quote me on this though.


























:soon:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 12, 2015, 10:37:16 AM
Results are well underway, will probably be up tomorrow! I thought announcing the artist names last round was a fun idea so I'll go ahead and do it again (in no particular order):

- RUSSKAJA
- Unexpect
- Yes
- East of the Wall
- Vanden Plas
- Navarone
- Steven Wilson
- Sleep Party People
- Coheed and Cambria
- David Gray
- Nine Inch Nails
- Meatloaf


Scores currently range from 6.5 to 9.5



Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2015, 10:43:14 AM
Can you guys guess which one is mine? Starts with "Vanden" and ends with "Plas".
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 12, 2015, 10:57:45 AM
omg evermind changed his avatar

also rip Coheed
i hope they picked a good one

(i wonder who sent East of the Wall :neverusethis:)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2015, 10:58:55 AM
omg evermind changed his avatar

It's a Christmas / New Year time soon after all!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 12, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Can you guys guess which one is mine? Starts with "Vanden" and ends with "Plas".
Really? I thought RUSSKAJA would be yours :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2015, 11:03:13 AM
Can you guys guess which one is mine? Starts with "Vanden" and ends with "Plas".
Really? I thought RUSSKAJA would be yours :neverusethis:

I'm not that obvious. :neverusethis:

I don't even know what kind of band this is.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 12, 2015, 11:06:45 AM
since I can't now I might as well tell you that the Coheed I would've sent you would probably be Domino the Destitute but there are probably a dozen or so great roulette picks so
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on December 12, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
Damn, someone cockblocked me on SW. I know who sent David Gray tho :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2015, 11:33:22 AM
Yeah, I know that too. Wonder if the song is Gathering Dust.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: 425 on December 12, 2015, 11:57:04 AM
since I can't now I might as well tell you that the Coheed I would've sent you would probably be Domino the Destitute but there are probably a dozen or so great roulette picks so

What an interesting choice...
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 12, 2015, 11:57:46 AM
since I can't now I might as well tell you that the Coheed I would've sent you would probably be Domino the Destitute but there are probably a dozen or so great roulette picks so

What an interesting choice...
:lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 12, 2015, 12:08:03 PM
ahh, good, now i can send something weird in place of that one
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 12, 2015, 01:16:04 PM
Yeah, I know that too. Wonder if the song is Gathering Dust.

Nope. I'm still scarred from the your response to Gathering Dust.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on December 12, 2015, 03:11:11 PM
Can you guys guess which one is mine? Starts with "Vanden" and ends with "Plas".
Really? I thought RUSSKAJA would be yours :neverusethis:

I'm not that obvious. :neverusethis:

I don't even know what kind of band this is.

They are actually an Austrian band, only their singer is Russian.

Also, I'm so damn curious for results for this one. At least it's not gonna be too horrible, given your score range starts at 6.5 :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 12, 2015, 03:16:32 PM
Yeah, I know that too. Wonder if the song is Gathering Dust.

Nope. I'm still scarred from the your response to Gathering Dust.

Well, sorry if the my response was a bit harsh. It was a good song, but still, the most memorable part for me is the way he sings the word "time" in "steal my time".

I also have a feeling 6.5 rating is mine. Of course, my song is 9.5 for me, but you never know.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 LISTENING
Post by: mikemangioy on December 13, 2015, 01:31:51 AM
Damn, someone cockblocked me on SW. I know who sent David Gray tho :neverusethis:

Hi there, I'm someone  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 06:28:34 AM


















:soon:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 07:10:25 AM
i'm retroactively giving you a penalty in my roulette
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 07:13:11 AM
I JUST pressed the "Post" button jackass, don't interrupt me!


LordCost
Unexpect Ė Unsolved Ideas of a Distorted Guest:

Thereís been a lot of submissions way out of my comfort zone, but this one has to be the winner in that regard. I simply canít get into this like the other whacky stuff, it almost seems like some of the stuff going on in the song are not even understood by the band themselves. Iím fine with the instruments being pretty crazy, and I actually think the bass guitar is beyond great, but Iím into the kind of chaotic songs when they feel somewhat systematic, whereas this just feels too chaotic for me to comprehend, maybe Iíll get into it with a few more listens though.
I regocnize great musicianship in all of the instruments, including the vocalist(s), but the music just does not appeal to me all that much, too extraordinary for my likings I guess.

6.5/10




mikemangioy
Steven Wilson Ė First Regret/3 Years Older:

Such a long song, but damn, this is not too shabby. The very lengthy instrumental intro, while not being my favorite part of the song, sets the mood perfectly, with a mix of ambient-ish and progressive rock elements. From what Iíve heard so far from SW (which is only this song as far as solo stuff goes) Iím kind of impressed, but on the other hand I donít think I will like his music as much as the average DTF member. The songwriting skills of this dude I can see are pretty damn good, but musically I donít like it just as much. I donít know a lot about Steven but from his lyrics I can kind of get how the subject is about something very close to him or something, I usually like my emotional songs plain and straight to the point-ish, and I havenít been into the mellow side of prog rock an awful lot. When it does hit, it hits big time, but this is inbetween.

Man Iím probably going to get a lot of shit for grading a Steven Wilson song below my average :lol


7.5/10




senecadawg2
David Gray Ė Please Forgive Me:

I didnít like this nearly as much as the previous two songs (which were pretty much in the same category). To each their own I guess. While this guy can sing just as good as Damien and Glen, hell, maybe even better, I like this song significantly less. But yea those two were pretty high up so that still doesnít mean too much. My main issue with this song is those instruments on the background. This song should be all about David Gray, but some things, like that clap beat at 3 mins in is something that makes me lose focus on the singing part of the song. Does he do all the music with a program? If so I hope Iím the only one thatís actually bothered by this. Great voice, and some generated background music that I don't understand and probably shouldn't be too distracted by, but in the end it does annoy me. David Gray's talent still got you an okay score for sure though. Of course you know what youíre doing here, youíre continuing a route of strong singer-songwriters, but unfortunately the laughing avatar man will keep you from expanding your (tied) lead, and will instead keep you in a solid spot to take back that lead.


7.5/10




Shadow Ninja 2.0
Sleep Party People Ė Change In Time:

Surprise surprise, Shadow Ninja sending me some artist Iíve never heard before. I gotta say Iím very pleased I received both this song and Saculís NIN song, they were both very relaxing in their own way to me, while this song would strike one with the word relaxing way quicker than the NIN song. This band is pretty unique, as are Santigold, Tom Waits, w/e you name it, but with this I actually have no idea how to label it, some kind of ambient? Anyway itís a pretty good, relaxing song with odd vocals in a good way, the kind of vocals that act more like an instrument than delivering a message, which fits perfectly for this kind of music. Hell yea Iíll have this kind of music play in the background when Iím in the mood, for that, I thank you. 


8/10




Bolsters

Meat Loaf Ė Bat Out Of Hell:

Cool name, first off. I have heard of Meatloaf before, about how amazing of a singer he supposedly is, but I didnít expect him to have such long songs, thought he was more of a radio-hit kind of guy. Itís a pretty catchy song alright, didnít appeal to me on first listen but itís gotten a little better. This feels like what Queen would sound like without the glam and with more of a rock edge. There really barely isnít too much I can complain about, maybe itís a bit too busy as a whole for my liking, but I can definitely say Iíve enjoyed some music from the one and only Meat Loaf, did not expect that to happen at the start of this roulette.


8/10




Sacul
Nine Inch Nails Ė Just Like You Imagined:

Iím pretty sure I never heard anything from NIN except for one song, it could very well just be this song, but it doesnít sound familiar. I donít know what kind of music they actually make and what their vocalist sounds like, but this instrumental is pretty good, especially for the theme. They keep the song fairly simple (well except for that piano part), but in a way that it sticks with you and sets the theme for the album, which basically means itís the perfect album opener. AlthoooooughÖ. yea like I said they keep it fairly simple, itís not going to be a round winner thatís for sure, but itís easily scoring some solid points, liked it a lot. Also, I like this one better than your original submission so you got away good.


8/10




Parama
East of the Wall Ė some songs tied together:

East of the Wall sounds like one of those typical Parama bands that no one else likes, judging from just the name for some reason. The groovy elements in Linear Failure are just glorious, actually yeah letís talk about Linear Failure, the core of the song, because how I see it, thereís 3 tracks that might aswell have been a single one, because it forms one song. Since the first and last are introís and outroís, my attention was drawn to the middle section the most. I could probably not have asked for better placed screams, this band apparently knows the balance quite well. Itís up there with the most experimental stuff in this round, although it doesnít even come close to the shit Tyrias and LordCost sent me :lol, and for those type of songs I always fear that I canít reward it. But this song I did like a lot, and it had more of an epic feel to it than most songs this round, but because of my low standards it doesnít stand out as the best song, definitely a good effort though.


8.5/10




Evermind
Vanden Plas Ė Vision 11even: In My Universe:

I see this name pop up every once in a while in the GMD and I always wondered but never checked out what they would be like. The style of intro they picked sounds kinda similar to March of Mephisto, which is a great thing. I actually like this guyís voice more than the Kamelot guy though, and I feel like this one has more of an ďopening songĒ type of touch to, making for a perfect fit to the theme, so you seem to have less trouble with opening rounds than happy/uplifting rounds :lol. Wow, I really like that guitar solo, it starts off very slow and emotive and then keeps up with the rhythmís as they pick up pace, thatís pretty cool. The choir section is pretty cool, somehow reminds me of A7X lol. Iíll take an educated guess based on my past rating skills and say this will end up just above average, like #5 of the round or something (this is without having scored anything yet and only being past the first listen).


8.5/10




Tyrias
RUSSKAJA Ė Energia:

Would it surprise you that this song is not the furthest out of my comfort zone in this round? Probably. But this one actually worked out way better than LordCostís song. Like they say with those whacky songs, itís kinda ruined when they take themselves too seriously doing it, but this band embraces it like no tomorrow. This song is full of ENERGIA, and the offbeat trumpet (yes guys, offbeat trumpet) makes this song amazingly happy sounding. Itís certainly not the best fit to the theme, even though itís the original album opener, but itís still allowed. I love how your risks tend to work in your favor, because that Caravan Palace song was also probably way better than you had expected. Iím going to be frank with ya though, this is 100% sure not a song Iíd buy on iTunes and jam along to when riding my bike to school, itís just not. But it has definitely intrigued me to check out some more of these guys, and maybe Iíve finally found the perfect song to piss off my neighbors when they call the cops on me again for noise disturbance without giving me a warning first.


8.5/10





425
Coheed and Cambria Ė Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute:

Youíre lucky Iím sorta used to this guyís voice because it was pretty hard to get used to at first (DW I only know ďWelcome HomeĒ). Thatís  a pretty cool intro, but the transition from intro to verse is pretty damn sudden, wouldíve liked if they went on a little longer there, or made it smoother. No question whether this guy can sing, Iím definitely enjoying the chorus a lot because of that. I actually like the rhythm guitar in this song way more than the leads, or is it just one guy who double-tracked it? Also a very complete track, even though itís an opener, it doesnít feel incomplete and in the need of being followed up with the rest of the album. Anyway I already had the idea in the back of my head to check out C&C, but I could definitely see that idea coming closer now, cool band. I actually thought at some point this might become another 10 but nah, no way it could contest with Meteorites


9/10




Elite
Navarone Ė Time:

Man, first Iím getting all these mp3 links and now a song thatís only on Spotify, thatís it Iím getting my 1 month free premium now. Iíve heard of this name once or twice, but have never heard any of their music I donít think. The amount of distortion combined with the bass is just about perfect to give me a Royal Blood vibe, but fortunately, itís not at all like them, cause I wouldnít really be interested in more of those. This band has their own cool way of making a name for themselves, Merijn van fucking Haren. Who is this guy? After nearly 3 minutes of slow-paced rock youíd expect the song to really remain a bit on the softer side, then he starts kicking ass. The riffage afterwards is pretty neat too. Overall I almost canít not like energetic rock like this, itís in my nature, and this more than satisfies, I think Iím liking this even more than the Jeff Buckley song.


9/10




splent
Yes Ė Roundabout:

splent dude, you just keep doing your thing. First you send me that killer Queen (ha) song, and now this. I was never used to those classic prog bands (while Queen isnít nearly as proggy as Yes) but I definitely should! Donít be discouraged to send modern stuff though, just trying to say that this stuff is currently working very well for you.
I like how loud the bass is mixed in this, especially enhances the first few minutes, everything combined with this vocalist makes me super relaxed and energetic at the same time, cool combination. Favorite part of the song has to be the groovy keyboard section in the middle though, and the overall thought that has been on my mind is just how sheer happiness of these musicians is seen back in the songwriting, modern bands should take their happy pills before starting to write more often. Iíve seen some good reviews about Fragile, and never thought this musicíd be for me, but this might just be the gateway song to Fragile and eventually more of Yesí neverending discography.


9.5/10




Current standings:

Evermind: 43
Elite: 43
425: 42
Senecadawg2: 42
Sacul: 41,5
Tyrias: 41,5
Bolsters: 41
Parama: 41
Splent: 40,5
LordCost: 39
mikemangioy: 39
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 35



In other news I've corrected a couple of earlier scores since we're halfway done now, I feel I owe these to some of you, IIRC there's about 5 songs I added either ,5 or a whole point to, will post later today. And I'll open the next round in a second.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on December 13, 2015, 07:33:59 AM
Oh, 8.5 is good. Actually, it's a better result than I expected to get.

I hope my Mark Knopfler song is among those that'll get an additional 0.5 points.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on December 13, 2015, 07:36:12 AM
Man, first Iím getting all these mp3 links and now a song thatís only on Spotify, thatís it Iím getting my 1 month free premium now.
Spotify is a great service for free even without the premium trial, the limitations are not that bad - just a lower quality stream (160kbps Ogg Vorbis) and some ads thrown in between songs every so often. No reason to stop using it after the trial even if you don't subscribe, if you like it. Anyway, now that I know you're good with Spotify I might be able to stop sending you MP3s at least (we'll have to wait and see, I haven't planned ahead at all). :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on December 13, 2015, 07:43:29 AM
I would also go ahead and say this is the weaker Steven Wilson song from HCE. I know it was an opener themed round, but if you take this album alone Happy Returns, Routine, Ancestral, Transience and the title track are better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 07:43:44 AM
Right, maybe I'm getting premium afterwards after all, there's currently something going on where you can get 3 months for 99 cents so I just got 3 months of prem already.

Round 6: Goliath

Epic round!

Yea you know it, Goliath is pretty obvious, and I feel like Iíd regret rushing this round as the songs will probably take more time to take in and of course are lengthier. Iím not going to force 15 min+ epics, but Iíll emphasize the fact that Iíll allow songs up to 25-30 mins if you really feel like it could be a hit. As for minimum length, Iím not going too crazy with it so if youíre more comfortable sending an 8 minute song Iíll take it, setting the minimum to about 7-8 minutes, the theme will still be epics though so please try to send something you feel can be counted as epic.



I would also go ahead and say this is the weaker Steven Wilson song from HCE. I know it was an opener themed round, but if you take this album alone Happy Returns, Routine, Ancestral, Transience and the title track are better in my opinion.
Planning on checking out some of the fan favorites (I think the Raven and that album previous to this one do really well with people) anyway so I'm not too bothered with it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on December 13, 2015, 07:48:05 AM
25 minutes? I was going to send a 35-minutes long song. :facepalm:

Alright, going to think it over then.

edit: should've saved that Avantasia song for this round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on December 13, 2015, 07:50:22 AM
I had a 26 and a half minute song in mind since we all pretty much knew what the theme would be. :lol I'll look for an appropriate replacement tomorrow.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 07:52:17 AM
It meant to say 25-30 at max, I'll fix that, 35 is too much though  :tdwn
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on December 13, 2015, 07:54:47 AM
It meant to say 25-30 at max, I'll fix that, 35 is too much though  :tdwn

You just don't know what you're turning down now. It's 35 minutes, but unlike, say, Kaleidoscope, this song will feel like it's 10 minutes long because it's so awesome. Chad will back me up on this, especially since it's his trademark epic song to send in roulettes.

Anyway, I'll find some meek short song tomorrow to send you.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 08:00:34 AM
I really want to believe it's the best song ever, but imagine if everyone is sending me a 30-40 minute song, I'll be listening to every song one time and it'll take me over 6 hours. I'd probably love it personally, but we have to follow the schedule don't we? If everyone's fine with taking a long time inbetween next results I'm down (assuming it's allowed to go on for longer than the normal period of time a roulette takes).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: splent on December 13, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
This is going to be fun!!

 :hat

I'll try to send by Tuesday. I have a ton of concerts and recitals today.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on December 13, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Nice, I was kind of dreading results for this one, but 8.5 is really good. This song has been my go-to cheer-me-up song for the last month or so, it's so ridiculously funny.

I don't mind people sending longer songs for this round, that last round took pretty long anyway. Also, my song will probably on the shorter side of an epic round (so below 15 minutes), so it will kind of balance out I guess.

Oh, and do you like post rock?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on December 13, 2015, 08:58:47 AM
Don't worry guys, my music library is huge enough, I'll find something shorter.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
yeah, i will admit that when it comes to the wacky stuff i got first round of my roulette, Schizoid Lloyd is a fair bit better than Unexpect was, and that was consistent across listening to both their albums, though 6.5 feels a little low for that one even still  :lol
3 years older would not be one of the songs from SW I would send, it's good though
Meatloaf is one of those artists I need to check out further at some point but never have
i've scored pretty consistently well with East of the Wall across the three roulettes I sent them in so I feel p. good about that. actually just went and ordered their 2nd and 4th albums a few days ago, finally  :lol
425 stole my 9, boo
Roundabout is great, though when it comes to Yes I prefer Close to the Edge (the song). I need to listen to more Yes sometime though

and damn, can't send Light of Day Day of Darkness for the epic round, oh well
i'll see what i can find for the epic round  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 09:08:05 AM
Nice, I was kind of dreading results for this one, but 8.5 is really good. This song has been my go-to cheer-me-up song for the last month or so, it's so ridiculously funny.

I don't mind people sending longer songs for this round, that last round took pretty long anyway. Also, my song will probably on the shorter side of an epic round (so below 15 minutes), so it will kind of balance out I guess.

Oh, and do you like post rock?

Well in my defense I received the last submission for this round 5 days ago :lol

Post-rock is hit or miss


and damn, can't send Light of Day Day of Darkness for the epic round, oh well
Don't worry, I'd reject it either way, I might aswell do an "album round" in that case. Apparently I stopped listening to this song 15 minutes in after one of you guys mentioned it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
oh man I better snub GYBE before someone else does :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 09:52:16 AM
Another 8? Seems like I'm stuck on that score :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 09:56:22 AM
Didn't Love Song get an 8.5? Pretty sure it did.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 09:59:19 AM
Oh yeah. Well, I hope to score better this round :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 12:11:30 PM
425
Kamelot Ė March of Mephisto (+,5) = 8,5
I knew I wanted to have this higher than 8/10 like 1 day after the results, great song, and a great beginning to The Black Halo.


splent

Scale the Summit - Stolas (+,5) = 7/10
Not necessarily a song I ended up enjoying more, but just one I think I didn't score according to my thoughts, 7/10 seems more accurate.


senecadawg2

Riverside Ė Discard Your Fear (+,5) = 7,5/10
Especially started enjoying how it goes from verses with such a haunting vibe to that uplifting chorus, 7,5/10 seemed like the right score.


Elite
Agent Fresco Ė See Hell (+,5) = 8/10
Great song, nothing in particular to note, just started to enjoy it more overall.


Tyrias
Susanne Sundfor Ė The Brothel (+,5) = 8,5/10
Beautiful voice, great atmosphere, definitely liked this better than the other 8/10 songs.


Parama
Pain of Salvation - Idioglossia (+1) = 8,5/10
I already kinda mentioned this in the thread, Idioglossia is great, but was pretty hard to get into, I realize that now.



This means we have new standings:

Evermind: 43
Elite: 43,5
425: 42,5
Senecadawg2: 42,5
Parama: 42
Tyrias: 42
Sacul: 41,5
Splent: 41
Bolsters: 41
LordCost: 39
mikemangioy: 39
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 35
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on December 13, 2015, 12:14:07 PM
:lol sorry Parama! But I'm very happy to get such a good score on that one of course... am I actually in the top three? I don't think I've ever been this far up in the standings before! I'm sure to blow it though as we get to the part where I run out of artists and start sending random songs.

And another bonus half of a point on March of Mephisto? Wow good things keep happening, you'd better start hating my submissions before things get too weird.


Anyway, sent Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 12:14:55 PM
Tfw none of my songs earned a point  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 13, 2015, 12:17:15 PM
Based on your comments it seems I would have been better suited with one of his several dozen more stripped back songs (like the one Evermind got in his roulette). Oh well, I'm still within striking distance.

To answer your question, some of it is programmed but certainly not all of it. There are a couple synthetic stings and programmed beats thrown in for good (or bad) measure, but the essential piano, guitar and drums aren't. Maybe it wouldn't detract as much from the song if it hadn't been recorded in his bedroom on a shoestring budget but anyways, I get where you're coming from.

I'll try to send my epic by the end of the day
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 12:23:43 PM
heck yeah  :hat
this combined with the 10/10 from my entry this round should put me in the lead
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on December 13, 2015, 12:28:58 PM
nice, glad for the extra half a point, that song sure deserves it. Also, can I send a 6:40 song for this round or is that too short?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 12:33:04 PM
Found an interesting hole in your banned list. Deciding which song I should send  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 12:34:46 PM
as we get to the part where I run out of artists and start sending random songs.
this is funny because you sent your two best songs in my roulette the last two rounds  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 12:40:17 PM
nice, glad for the extra half a point, that song sure deserves it. Also, can I send a 6:40 song for this round or is that too short?
No sorry, song length is really the only factor I can take into acount before hearing the actual song, I wrote down 7-8 as an absolute minimum, if I go below that, I'll continue to alter the boundaries more and more.
You can always send it next round, as that's an open round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on December 13, 2015, 12:44:56 PM
ok, I have an alternative and I'll just send the other band next round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on December 13, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
as we get to the part where I run out of artists and start sending random songs.
this is funny because you sent your two best songs in my roulette the last two rounds  :lol

Yeah, who knows how I pulled that off?  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 13, 2015, 01:03:55 PM
sent devil doll
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 01:18:10 PM
Can I use 2-3 short songs that naturally flow into each other?  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 01:23:10 PM
If they're meant to be together it would be a jerk move to deny it as Parama literally did just that in the last round, so I'll allow it. But please send me a file (or video w/e) that has the 2-3 songs put together like Parama did so I don't have to copy/paste or be bothered with changing songs constantly when I'm on shuffle.

Oh and I guess mikemangioy kinda had the same thing going on too with SW.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 01:28:49 PM
Oh nice! Found a a song that's about 7-8 mins anyways. Sent  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on December 13, 2015, 02:41:20 PM
ok, this is kind of embarassing, but did I already send you a song? I'm not entirely sure if I just thought about it or if I actually did it :P.

I guess that's what you get for studying the whole day.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
you just Shadow Ninja'd  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 3 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 13, 2015, 02:50:07 PM
You know you can view the PMs you sent, right? I always assumed people saying "I don't remember what I sent" were kidding, but I'm not so sure now.
Either you guys left the "Save a copy in my outbox" checkbox blank when you were sending your other PMs, or I'm just special like that.

But yeah you have sent.

Shadow :ninja:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on December 13, 2015, 07:49:27 PM
It meant to say 25-30 at max, I'll fix that, 35 is too much though  :tdwn
I might dig a little deeper and weigh my options anyway.

You just don't know what you're turning down now. It's 35 minutes, but unlike, say, Kaleidoscope, this song will feel like it's 10 minutes long because it's so awesome. Chad will back me up on this, especially since it's his trademark epic song to send in roulettes.
I'm curious now...what is it? Just wondering if it's something I know or not.


And I like that 425's score is now 42.5. :laugh:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 13, 2015, 08:16:27 PM
NUGGETZ
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 13, 2015, 11:33:10 PM
listening to The Apologist again (a thing I just do a lot nowadays) and I'm not 100% convinced I shouldn't have sent the Whiskey Sipper/Underachiever combo

I worry about Underachiever though because it's inteeeense as hell (and amazing)
Whiskey Sipper might be the single best track on the album though, maybe, not 100% sure on that
basically you should make sure to check out the album
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 14, 2015, 12:03:18 AM
I sent the most obvious song anyone could possibly send. Here's hoping that ToN succumbs to peer pressure.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 01:44:39 AM

And I like that 425's score is now 42.5. :laugh:
Oh my god.


@Parama an 8.5 is pretty much a definite "will check outthe album", yea I was planning to anyway.


I sent the most obvious song anyone could possibly send. Here's hoping that ToN succumbs to peer pressure.
The hell I will (unless it's good which it probably is)


EDIT: updated green list with a single song I keep getting for this round because it's a fucking obvious one, I forgot to mention I already know it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Elite on December 14, 2015, 03:17:29 AM
Sent 2112 :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 14, 2015, 07:55:56 AM
I resent.

It's not one of the obvious prog rock holes in your list, but it is better  ;)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2015, 08:18:28 AM
I have a few songs I can send, but I hate sending at Mondays (I usually hate everything at Mondays) and I want to give them another listen, so I'll send tomorrow, in the next 26 hours or so. Sorry for delaying this.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 08:28:10 AM
Yea don't worry tomorrow's fine. I already received 7 of the 12 songs which is crazy, as results were posted just over 24 hours ago.
Will start listening pretty much ASAP when I have everything, cuz this round will take a bit longer.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 08:40:08 AM
you should totally post all the track times for this round once you've got them all
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 08:43:43 AM
I actually thought about posting that in the comment above you, but yea I was definitely planning to reveal the lengths, the differentials are already HUGE.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: jingle.boy on December 14, 2015, 08:47:52 AM
You just don't know what you're turning down now. It's 35 minutes, but unlike, say, Kaleidoscope, this song will feel like it's 10 minutes long because it's so awesome. Chad will back me up on this, especially since it's his trademark epic song to send in roulettes.

*backs Evermind up*

It's actually only 32 minutes.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 09:00:04 AM
32 mins eh? For a second I thought it would be Cassandra Gemini (even though TMV is banned), but yea I can't imagine Evermind sending The Mars Volta. I'm still interested though. No one seemed to have a problem with it but Evermind already said he could easily send something else.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 09:13:21 AM
i'm not one to talk since a sent an hour-long song in 425's roulette  :loser:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 09:17:14 AM

And I like that 425's score is now 42.5. :laugh:
Oh my god.

How did I not notice this?!  :rollin


You just don't know what you're turning down now. It's 35 minutes, but unlike, say, Kaleidoscope, this song will feel like it's 10 minutes long because it's so awesome. Chad will back me up on this, especially since it's his trademark epic song to send in roulettes.

*backs Evermind up*

It's actually only 32 minutes.

Not that I particularly want Evermind to succeed since I'm technically supposed to be competing against him, but if this is what I think it is, it's a really good song.

And yeah, Parama, just...  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 14, 2015, 09:17:48 AM
I sent an almost-8 mins song - I have a big lack of epics in my collection  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 09:18:41 AM
Wow, I knew that was a thing for Parama (hence LODDOD), but I didn't expect that to be true for you as well.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 09:18:53 AM
the band i sent from has a 23 minute song but i do not have that album yet so i sent a 12 minute one instead

i don't even know if Train will like it much but it's definitely epic so i did my job

and yeah in regards to long epics, uhh
the longest song on any album i've purchased this year is 16:18, out of like 50+ albums

i am clearly not someone who seeks out epics  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 09:21:32 AM
However, ToN, though I did just say that Evermind's song is good, I think you should still not allow it. There were a couple of songs I was considering that were around 31, 32 minutes that I eliminated on account of length, and others probably did too. I think you should keep the rules consistent for everybody and let Evermind send a <30 minute song which he seems to be working on anyway. And then just figure out the obvious song that Evermind was going to send and listen to it and love it on its own.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 09:27:16 AM
I'll never underestimate Evermind's library so he should be fine sending a <30 min song.

BTW out of curiosity, what score did you give LODDOD?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 09:30:21 AM
he gave it a 9
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 14, 2015, 10:06:11 AM
More than my beautiful submission  :'(
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2015, 10:16:58 AM
Yeah, 425, it's exactly the song you're thinking of. I'm fine either way, I just need to decide if I should send a 10-minute song, 14-minutes song, 16-minutes song, 19-minutes song or a 24-minutes long song.

Some serious listening will commence tomorrow at work. And I'll probably listen to that 32-minutes long song too because it's just sooo great. :heart
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 10:21:34 AM
I did in fact give LODDOD a 9. Though keep in mind that my roulette scores were insanely generousóI think like 2 songs got under a 7 in the whole thing. Nevertheless, I actually did like LODDOD quite a bit and do plan to buy the album within a month or two. So I didn't end up punishing Parama in the scoring for the egregious act of sending a whole goddamn album.

Sacul's submission was good but it had some annoying drum part that repeated for like 4 minutes that I found really irritating.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 10:26:28 AM
16 minutes is a really good song length, do that one
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 10:28:13 AM
16 minutes is the length of A Nightmare to Remember. Maybe it's A Nightmare to Remember.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
16 minutes is the length of A Nightmare to Remember. Maybe it's A Nightmare to Remember.

Yep. In fact, 14 minutes is Ithe length of In the Name of God, 19 minutes is the length of The Count of Tuscany and 24 minutes is the length of Octavarium.

Anyway, LoDDoD deserves a 10.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 10:37:50 AM
Evermind sending a DT song confirmed.

The highest LODDOD was ever going to get from me was a 9, probably. Because it's like "here, listen to this complex prog album that isn't divided into smaller units three times while also listening to nine other epics of between 14 and 32 minutes three times, and make sure you do this as quickly as possible."
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2015, 10:44:23 AM
Well, it's your fault for not discovering it earlier. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 10:58:05 AM
Fair enough, I think I'm pretty generous too though.

Btw 2112 would get a solid 10/10
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
Well, it's your fault for not discovering it earlier. :lol
i shouldn't be allowed to agree with you this strongly
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 14, 2015, 11:27:25 AM
Oh come on Ommadawn only had tribal percussion here and there :'(
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: LordCost on December 14, 2015, 02:05:15 PM
Train, think that the song I sent to you is one of their most song-oriented of their discography. The album before that one called "In A Flesh Aquarium" is definitely more chaotic  :lol
I was going to send another song with growls considering that you like the songs of Waking The Fallen, but I read in the first page that harsh vocals are hit or miss for you.. I remember also that only Bedlam In Goliath was banned by Mars Volta, now everything is banned. I have to think a bit more for this submission
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 14, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
Pretty sure FTM was banned too, atleast it should've been, but since Deloused is also off the table I figured it'd be better to ban TMV
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 06:48:44 PM
Oh come on Ommadawn only had tribal percussion here and there :'(

I know... It just annoyed me is all. Which is the easiest way to get downgraded by me.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on December 14, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
Sacul must have a history of really annoying people in roulettes, that Dead Can Dance song was incredibly annoying

i'm not convinced yet i didn't overrate it
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 14, 2015, 07:41:48 PM
To be honest things like that, going into the background yet repeating themselves over and over don't bother me, so I guess I didn't really notice that until you told me  :lol

In any case, you should give the album a chance, none of the other songs have that "problem", and it's pretty atmospheric as a whole - I love it.


Oh come on Ommadawn only had tribal percussion here and there :'(

I know... It just annoyed me is all. Which is the easiest way to get downgraded by me.
Fair enough. I love some percussion in that style, but there was no way for me to predict if you'd be annoyed by that thing so I guess that felt a little bit unfair to me. Oh well, at least I sent you the best EP  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: 425 on December 14, 2015, 11:11:55 PM
I think my objection was not that there was percussion, but that it was so monotonous for such a long time. That's what I remember, at least. And I totally don't blame you for feeling cheated by that, because you totally had no way of knowing that it would bother me. But nevertheless.

And you sent me an AMAZING EP. Like, everyone should listen to that EP. Those artists should collaborate to release that EP officially.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 15, 2015, 10:45:49 AM
There is
A song I have sent
It's all been decided

If you know which song it is, please don't post the title in this damn thread. Thank you.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 15, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
"It's all been decided" sounds like Slash - Too Far Gone, you sending me a Slash song for an epic round mate? POINTS DOCKED
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on December 15, 2015, 11:10:19 AM
"It's all been decided" sounds like Slash - Too Far Gone, you sending me a Slash song for an epic round mate? POINTS DOCKED

Damn, are you saying after I spent a day deciding on the song to send you'll dock points from me just like that? I'm out of this damn roulette. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: splent on December 15, 2015, 11:19:57 AM
I have to listen to the two or three epics I"m thinking about sending you. I haven't heard them in a while (all the ones I was thinking about sending you are either bands on your banned list or by bands I've already sent you  :lol). I have a couple others, but being in the midst of holiday music right now I have to just take a break. Don't worry, I'll send it tonight.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 15, 2015, 12:33:18 PM
My god, I knew I had some obvious holes in my banned list, but I'm receiving some very obvious ones, how have I not heard these yet?

I already have 10 songs, you guys are quick.


I checked the song average and it is 16.95, so basically 17 minutes  :lol

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 16, 2015, 02:18:54 PM
Let's play a game!

It's called... Guess who the last remaining participant to send their song is!

Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on December 16, 2015, 02:21:12 PM
A mad scientist who made a dog-bird hybrid and uses it as avatar here?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 16, 2015, 02:24:07 PM
:splodetard:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 5 RESULTS/RD6 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 18, 2015, 07:04:06 AM
I have everything in now, will start listening today. There's one duplicate artist, with two songs off different albums, but I really want to make some progress before holidays and stuff and I've never heard anything of this band before.

Total song length is 203:53 minutes --> 3 hours, 23 minutes and 53 seconds, and here, like promised, are the track lengths:

1. - 7:30
2. - 7:45
3. - 9:17
4. - 10:24
5. - 12:03
6. - 14:15
7. - 18:01
8. - 20:26
9. - 25:15
10. - 25:34
11. - 26:37
12. - 26:44




13. - 1:00:06 :neverusethis:


Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on December 18, 2015, 07:07:50 AM
Well, at least my track wasn't the longest.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 18, 2015, 09:30:21 AM
Well, at least my track wasn't the shortest.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 19, 2015, 02:34:34 PM
Decided now that we have over half the songs, I'd compare the epic entries to your previous entries, I've seen this a couple of times in previous roulettes and thought it was a fun idea. Of course, first place of the list doesn't mean as much for one person as it does for the other, but you all know roughly what you scored for all the songs I assume. If not, you can always check.

Already finished two full listens, which I think is pretty impressive as I started a little more than 30 hours ago. That said, I wanted to rush in some listens before next week, because my bus(y/ier) schedule is starting next week. I'll still be able to continue, but obviously holidays are a-coming.



Tyrias:

Round: 3
Round: 2
Round: 6
Round: 5
Round: 1
Round: 4

Evermind:

Round: 4
Round: 6
Round: 3
Round: 1
Round: 5
Round: 2


Bolsters:

Round: 6

Round: 3
Round: 4
Round: 1
Round: 5
Round: 2


Elite:

Round: 6

Round; 2
Round: 4
Round: 5
Round: 1
Round: 3


Senecadawg2:


Round: 1
Round: 3
Round: 4
Round: 6
Round: 5
Round: 2


Splent:

Round: 5
Round: 6
Round: 4
Round: 3
Round: 2
Round: 1


Parama:

Round: 6
Round: 3
Round: 5
Round: 1
Round: 4
Round: 2


Sacul:

Round: 6

Round: 1
Round: 4
Round: 5
Round: 2
Round: 3


Mikemangioy:

Round: 6
Round: 4
Round: 3
Round: 5
Round: 2
Round: 1


Shadow Ninja 2.0:

Round: 6
Round: 5
Round: 2
Round: 4
Round: 3
Round: 1


425:

Round: 4
Round: 5
Round: 6
Round: 1
Round: 2
Round: 3


LordCost:

Round: 6
Round: 2
Round: 3
Round: 1
Round: 4
Round: 5


If anything becomes clear from this, it's that there wasn't a single mediocre song this round (saying this after two listens). This means there will probably not be a huge shift in standings, and I can easily say this is the best round of the roulette so far (both by average score, and having the best song(s) so far). BTW I haven't even looked at the current standings yet, so who knows, there might be some people cliombing up or falling down the bracket, as things are still pretty tight because of my high average scores.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Elite on December 19, 2015, 03:04:14 PM
Those song lengths :lol
 The reason I would never run an 'epic round' in my roulettes. Interested to see the results though.

I also know who sent the longest song :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: 425 on December 19, 2015, 03:08:56 PM
Alright, I definitely like the looks of this.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 19, 2015, 03:34:30 PM
well, I got a 9.5 or a 10

betting the latter

this will probably be the "best" song i send y- wait i already sent idioglossia, dammit
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 19, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
you actually liked my song?? wtf, where did i go wrong
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on December 19, 2015, 03:59:11 PM
well, I guess at least an 8 is pretty good, even though it seems I did a lot worse than amost others here :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 19, 2015, 04:08:50 PM
Don't know if you hate being corrected but Energia got an 8.5  ;)
That said, scores are obviously not set in stone yet.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on December 19, 2015, 04:16:18 PM
oh yeah, I forgot that you raised my score of The Brothel. (might have to do something with the fact that I'm kind of tipsy and really sentimental / melancholic right now)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 20, 2015, 02:07:45 AM
I'm alright with the placement of my song. Seeing how Elite sent his best though, I'm sure I'm not going to take the lead this round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on December 20, 2015, 03:11:57 AM
Looks like I'm on fire on this one.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 20, 2015, 03:20:39 AM
Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on December 20, 2015, 03:22:45 AM
No. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on December 20, 2015, 04:13:22 AM
Cool, I was actually worried I'd made a poor choice. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: LordCost on December 21, 2015, 01:51:40 AM
well, I got a 9.5 or a 10
Me too! And I expected no more than a 7.5  :eek
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on December 21, 2015, 03:32:45 AM
Well by the looks of it, currently everyone has a great score ;D meaning this round won't be a gamechanger in terms of standings. This might be one of the fastest rounds despite the length, because I simply enjoyed it so much.  I'll probably have results up tomorrow.

I'm gonna go ahead and accept round 7 submissions in advance too, because I know it's going to be a busy week for many, this way you'll have more time to think about it and/or notice the thread. On top of that, I don't want to go on for too long, as it would hold up future roulette hosts. I have 10 rounds plus a final round so I have to be a bit ahead of the other current hosts.

P.S.
Round 7: M.I.A.

Was not sure whether I wanted this to be an instrumental round or open, went with the latter as I would probably not enjoy a full instrumental round as much. So anything goes this round, no worrying about themes!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on December 21, 2015, 04:53:34 AM
I will probably send you an instrumental anyway just because.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on December 21, 2015, 08:45:41 AM
I had a good instrumental waiting for this round, but since it's not an instrumental round, I might want to reconsider what to send.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 21, 2015, 08:56:14 AM
Themed rounds are marked with '*' by the way, both in the OP and somewhere in the thread the moment I announced it. I think the remaining two themed rounds are pretty obvious though, no real surprise there. Instrumentals are obviously allowed every round, I think the past 2-3 rounds I've gotten an instrumental, but yea it's not obligated.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 21, 2015, 08:57:10 AM
i sent a thing

i dunno it's really hard to follow up this round but i tried
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 6 LISTENING
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 22, 2015, 12:14:13 AM
Sent, making a note for myself to avoid potential personal crises in the future.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 11:42:36 AM
:soon:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Cyril on December 22, 2015, 12:13:30 PM
i was going to spell out whahibrido pickingant with :soon: thingies but i hit the character limit before i even finished whahibrido, lame
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Evermind on December 22, 2015, 12:14:36 PM
Well, that's whahibrido pickingant for you.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 12:16:46 PM
Make 2 posts, it'll buy me some time

Ok there's three 10/10's, it's raining points!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Evermind on December 22, 2015, 12:32:00 PM
I suggest to reduce every 10/10 to at least 9.5/10, because my song is clearly not 10/10.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - :RoadRunnerRecords:
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 12:47:44 PM
Round 6 results!  :yarr


Tyrias
Mono Ė Everlasting Light:

Being the only instrumental in this round, this was a very nice breather between all the other epics (of course, I wonít take that into account when ranking, but for my 3 hours listening routines it was a nice adjustment). With a pretty slow buildup and a relatively short song overall, though 10 minutes is pretty long for an instrumental, you gotta wonder where theyíre going with the song when youíre about 4-5 minutes in. The second half of the song is amazingly well fitting to the theme of Ďepicsí though, thatís some very huge sounding instruments. This was a great epic for sure, and itís a pretty high score, just.. compared to the other songs this round this one had the least to offer I feel.

8,5/10


Mikemangioy
Between the Buried and Me - White Walls:

Itís funny you should send this, I actually listened to Coma Ecliptic the other day and then tried to check out Colors, I didnít last very long. My brother kept telling me I had to listen to White Walls though, as itís supposed to be one of their best, I guess the time has come. Listened to viridian first as everyone recommends it, and it sets the mood quite nicely. The thing that really makes that intro epic is that guitar riff, really huge sound there. The vocals donít scare me off the way I thought they would, when youíre used to it they actually sound pretty energetic and even harmonic to a certain extent. Which brings me to the clean part, which oddly, was actually my least favorite part of the song. BtBaM have always been 100% about instrumentals for me, but this song made me appreciate the vocals more (maybe because I was forced to give them more than one listen :lol). Great epic song!

9/10


Senecadawg2
Enslaved Ė Roots of the Mountain:

I actually did really dislike the vocals in the intro at first, the chorus however, was great right off the bat, and kept me from disliking the song. Getting into the song more and more on consecutive listens, I started to like how such aggressive vocals mixed with the calm ones ended up working out. That said, most of the instrumentals on here are actually very uplifting, something I wouldnít expect from a song with such an aggressive intro. There have been one or two songs that beat this song in terms of Ďepicnessí, but youíre right, the chorus is incredibly epic, I dig that. The best part though, is when the chorus returns one last time with the growls and cleans combined Itís not too far from a perfect score, but definitely very great, and Iím glad it started to grow on me quickly.

9/10


425
Transatlantic Ė Into the Blue:

Two Transatlantic songs, well Iíve heard a lot of good stuff about them at the ďbest MP side project albumĒ thread. So I have heard a bit of Neal Morse (one or two songs from his side projects), and of course I have heard MP play before, this should be interesting. Being the longest song along with the other Transatlantic song, I can see that they know their way around the 26 minute epics pretty damn well. The intro, while being pretty long, does not feel like it drags, and introduces us to the main riff, thatís like the grooviest thing ever, I was simply blown away by it. Even though the voice just sounds like a standard classic prog voice, it doesnít take away from the music or anything, and the instrumentals are definitely the main attraction of both TA songs I received. Very Ďepicí conclusion aswell, kinda reminds me of Octavarium.

9/10


Evermind
Need Ė Orvam:

Unlike most of the other lengthier songs on this round, this one is pure energy from the beginning of the road all the way to the end. It has both the very happy sounding proggy sections and the dark heavy metal sections. I feel like most heavy metal songs make the songs conclusion sound very big, but when they actually focus on it, it becomes something as powerful as this tune here. And when everything is supposedly said and done, that creepy piano with the spoken words ends the song on a very good note, incredibly creepy, though not as creepy as Devil Doll by a country mile, itís getting there.
 
9/10


Bolsters
Frost* - Milliontown:

Already starts out beautifully with the piano, and man, do they deliver with that intro. Comparing this to the Pink Floyd tune (as itís kinda similar in length and style), I think the intro is slightly less interesting, while still amazing. The instruments get way more interesting as the song progresses though, with a very happy sound.  I canít help to think this band is perfect for making long songs, itís all so well tied together with seemingly no problem. That keyboard solo near the end though, has to be my favorite part of everything, being a great climax to a more than solid epic. Dang, I need more of these guys.


9,5/10


Elite
Transatlantic Ė Duel With the Devil:

I actually nearly liked both Transatlantic songs the same, this one just got the edge though. Duel With the Devil has more of an epic feel to it and the superior instrumental sections makes it a more enjoyable 26 minutes. Iíll go ahead and repeat myself here on a few counts. Neal Morse, I never listened to his music all that much, Iíve heard a couple of his side project songs but Iíve always acknowledged his talent. Mike Portnoy goes without saying, phenomenal drummer technically and most of all, creatively. I havenít heard much of the others but I know theyíre big names, and boy do they make it count on this song, mind-blowing solo sections. Into the Blue, in my opinion, had a superior main riff, I loved the groove on that one and is probably the most memorable thing in this entire round. But yea this song was an easier listen and never felt below that Ďexcellentí level.

9,5/10


Splent
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond:

Thatís THE best intro on this entire round, itís crazy good, both groovy and energetic. That said, it goes on like 9 minutes, which is almost a third of the entire track, pretty perfect for an intro that never at any point feels like itís dragging out the song. I think Iíve heard bits of this song once or twice on the radio or something, but I never knew it was Pink Floyd, the only song I knew from them was Another Brick in the Wall and it didnít do much for me. Once again though, you give me the right song to convince me those classic bands arenít all that bad. I sure hope they have more of these instrumental-oriented songs, Ďcause while I did enjoy the vocals, the instruments were the real treat here.

9,5/10
 

Sacul
Destrage Ė Are You Kidding Me? No.

Wow. Iím blown away by this. This does definitely remind me a bit of Protest the Hero, but with a crazier voice, I love it. Probably the only song of this round to not really have an Ďepicí intro though, but this still classifies well. What makes this epic song so epic is NANA nununu NANA nununu NANA nununu NANA! :neverusethis: Nah, itís the epic trumpets with a very latino-ish touch to them, great to get some of those. These following vocals are very musical-like and remind me of A Little Piece of Heaven, strangely, because it doesnít sound like that at all. As with most of the songs on here, growls didnít turn me off at all, I think Iíve developed an immunity for it, but they still donít appeal all that much to me either. Itís a pretty small portion of the song though, and these vocals do work very well with the music so they actually came out nicely. Whaddya say, does a perfect score sound nice to you? Close enough.
 
9,5/10


Shadow Ninja 2.0

Devil Doll Ė Mr Doctor:

Iím just going to state right away how I feel about this: Itís so damn gloomy and sinister and thatís exactly why I love it so much! The vocals are out of this world (while not being particularly great technically) and actually kind of creep me out. That said, this song would probably even do better in R8 if that didnít have a length limit. You know that Courage the Cowardly Dog episode of The Great Fusilli? Thatís exactly what came to my mind when hearing this song, and itís creepy as hell. Thereís one part of the song that I can kinda consider to be metal, and itís pretty cool, with additional chants in the background, but what follows.. I know I said this song kinda creeped me out, but that ďMr DoctorĒ near the 17 minute mark after all the instruments go silent was actually chilling and really did creep me out. I have no real idea of what Devil Doll is, but I imagine it being similar to this, so itís definitely a band Iíd check out some time, now you see what happens when one of your weird songs DOES work out. :D

10/10




LordCost
The Human Abstract Ė Antebellum:

Clocking in at 7 and a half minutes, this is the shortest song Iíve received. Surprisingly, itís one of the most epic songs Iíve heard, so itís a good fit to the round. Starts off slow, but in the 10 seconds that they take to build up, they cover the 4 minutes that songs with this factor of epic-ness usually take. Again, like pretty much every song that included growls in this round, they werenít repelling at all, they complemented the music, like growls are supposed to. The chorus, which was all clean however, is the thing I kept returning for, and was constantly stuck in my headÖ in a good way. :D

10/10


Parama
Ne Obliviscaris Ė Forget Not:

Starting with a very harmonic guitar thingy, it progresses very smoothly into a very cool violin lead (who woulda thought Iíd ever say that) and already gives me the epic feels. I probably wouldnít even care if they just extended those instruments into a 12 minute fully instrumental epic. Though one of the best things of this song is at about 7-8 minutes, where they do incorporate growls, but mix it in the background to accentuate the cleans, that served me pretty damn well. Finally, they do go all harsh, making this song exactly what I expected it to be going into it, constantly escalating tension up to the very end, I love when they do that!

10/10


I really, really enjoyed this round, I'd be surprised if this won't be my favorite round at the end of this. After 6 rounds I think it's pretty fair to make such a statement. Scores ranging from 8.5-10 I would've never imagined before doing this, just take a look at all these songs, they're all excellent.

Anyway I'll be updating the standings shortly, gotta go somewhere real quick so I figured I'd give you the results now.


Current standings:
Elite: 43,5 + 9,5 = 53
Evermind: 43 + 9 = 52
Parama: 42 + 10 = 52
425: 42,5 + 9 = 51,5
Senecadawg2: 42,5 + 9 = 51,5
Sacul: 41,5 + 9,5 = 51
Splent: 41 + 9,5 = 50,5
Bolsters: 41 + 9,5 = 50,5
Tyrias: 42 + 8,5 = 50,5
LordCost: 39 + 10 = 49
Mike: 39 + 9 = 48
Shadow Ninja: 35 + 10 = 45



I'm going to figure out the best way to break a tie without having to delay the roulette ASAP, and make it public to you guys, give me a day max. I'm currently thinking about taking the average of everyone's top three songs after round 10 is over, to have a 2nd score in case of ties, this way, the sheer luck someone could've had with a single 10/10 wouldn't automatically qualify them to win any tie, and it would be more about the participants consistency. Thoughts/ideas?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Evermind on December 22, 2015, 12:50:42 PM
Quote
Mikemangioy
Between the Buried and Me:

Mike sent the whole BTBAM discography? :biggrin:

And wait what... Duel with the Devil, fine... but you want to say you've never heard Shine on You Crazy Diamond? What the hell. I didn't even think it was allowed, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with that Need song and sent you this perfection of an epic.

Good job Splent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 12:53:57 PM
Quote
Mikemangioy
Between the Buried and Me:

Mike sent the whole BTBAM discography? :biggrin:

And wait what... Duel with the Devil, fine... but you want to say you've never heard Shine on You Crazy Diamond? What the hell. I didn't even think it was allowed, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered with that Need song and sent you this perfection of an epic.

Good job Splent.
Oops, White Walls by BTBAM  :biggrin:

Yea I had never heard Shine On You Crazy Diamond before.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 22, 2015, 12:55:11 PM
I'm not actually sure how to react to you liking Devil Doll. :lol

If you're interested in checking out more of their stuff (there isn't much), I'd go for The Girl Who Was... Death next, which I think is their best work.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Cyril on December 22, 2015, 12:55:35 PM
I'd personally have sent Ashes in the Snow from Mono but they have like, one song total with vocals (and not good ones) so I didn't even consider them for your roulette  :lol
You forgot to put the actual song name but White Walls is definitely one of the best BTBAM songs, yeah.
and I'm really not too bothered by the vocals in Roots of the Mountain anymore, even the opening bit, but 9 is still probably what I'd give it, maaaybe higher dunno, I'll decide when I actually get the album
both Transatlantic songs I'm not that familiar with but heard a few times, i only remember the chorus of Duel with the Devil and nothing else from either of them
evermind's song is the only one i haven't even heard of so i have no comment
i think i listened to that Frost album once but i don't remember a second of it
wow I could've entered Shine On Crazy Diamond all this time? nice.
i'll get that Destrage album too, it'll be overwhelming and i'll hate it, but i'll also love it, and i will get it
i should prob check out devil doll but i'll just have an epic round in my next roulette so shadow ninja can send them to me then
i tried listened to THA some but never got too into them, maybe i'll go check them out again

and yeah, Forget Not is an easy 10/10 song, i'd have been disappointed with anything less really  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Sacul on December 22, 2015, 01:09:45 PM
Awesome! But you forgot to mention the amazing guitar solo  ;)


SOYCD is an excellent choice, but it really shines on a live stting :neverusethis:


I was about to send White Walls, damn.


Duel with the Devil and Everlasting Light are nice, yup.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
Updates results post with standings and (possible) solution to break ties after round 10 is over.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Evermind on December 22, 2015, 01:39:14 PM
I don't want to be the one to point it out because it'll cost me my lead, but either I need to stop sleeping for only 4 hours every night or the results are almost all wrong.

Previous standings after the corrections:

Evermind: 43
Elite: 43,5
425: 42,5
Senecadawg2: 42,5
Parama: 42
Tyrias: 42
Sacul: 41,5
Splent: 41
Bolsters: 41
LordCost: 39
mikemangioy: 39
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 35

What we should have now:

Evermind: 43 + 9 = 52
Elite: 43,5 + 9,5 = 53
425: 42,5 + 9 = 51,5
Seneca: 42,5 + 9 = 51,5
Parama: 42 + 10 = 52
Tyrias: 42 + 8,5 = 50,5
Sacul: 41,5 + 9,5 = 51 (you've got this one right)
Splent: 41 + 9,5 = 50,5
Bolsters: 41 + 9,5 = 50,5 (this one seems right too)
LordCost: 39 + 10 = 49 (correct)
Mike: 39 + 9 = 48 (correct)
Shadow Ninja: 35 + 10 = 45 (correct)

And this is what you have in your post:

Quote
Evermind: 52,5
Elite: 52,5
Parama: 51
425: 51
Senecadawg2: 51
Sacul: 51
Bolsters: 50,5
Tyrias: 50
Splent: 50
LordCost: 49
mikemangioy: 48
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 45
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: mikemangioy on December 22, 2015, 01:44:04 PM
WHIIIIITE
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL is a great song.

And also, I'm wearing a Destrage t shirt right now, makes my italian self proud.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 01:46:53 PM
 :metal


@Evermind you're right, I rushed it and must've taken the pre-corrections standings, on top off that I didn't double check it, so thanks for your honesty. Will still check it to be 100% sure but I trust you've got it right so I'll edit it into that for now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Elite on December 22, 2015, 02:24:26 PM
Evermind sent an entire album?

Also, why the hell was Pink Floyd not on the banned list? :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 22, 2015, 02:36:02 PM
Yes, he sent me the hard copy release with signatures and everything, what a guy!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: 425 on December 22, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
Damn, I was deciding between Into the Blue and Duel with the Devil, and for whatever reason I decided to go for the gutsy call thinking you might like it better... Cost myself a half point. But oh well, can't complain about a 9, and I'm somehow still just 1.5 off of the lead, so I must not be doing too badly. :)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Tyrias on December 22, 2015, 03:14:21 PM
Well, I'm glad you liked it, though I would have preferred it if you had liked it more.
Also, clearly epics are not my big strength, I've never even heard of 7of the 10 songs up there.
Also, it's crazy Pink Floyd wasn't banned, I don't even check if I can send them because I always just assume they are banned.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Sacul on December 22, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
Having sent nothing below an 8 so far, I'd be leading another roulette  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 23, 2015, 01:18:27 AM
Well Elite averaged an 8.8 so far  :laugh:

Just a reminder that round 7 is open (meaning both open to submission, and no theme)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Tyrias on December 23, 2015, 04:22:21 AM
Can we send songs on Spotify? The song i want to send doesn't have a good quality version on youtube :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 23, 2015, 05:11:00 AM
Sure! I've been Spotify geeking for the past week, just got 3 months of premium, so go ahead. I only wish more songs were on spotify because I have to alternate between spotify/youtube/mp3 probably every round (that's no biggie though, send me anything you want).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Bolsters on December 23, 2015, 05:26:54 AM
I'm definitely making Spotify my preferred method for receiving songs on my next roulette because it's far more convenient than any of the others. It would be fantastic if I didn't have to use Youtube or receive files at all, but I know that's an unrealistic expectation.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 23, 2015, 05:33:13 AM
Always a bit annoying to see multiple other songs which I considered score higher than my own. Particularly Ne Obliviscaris, which has been my go-to in epic rounds for quite some time now. Oh well, hindsight bias aside, I'm glad you enjoyed the song.

I've sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 23, 2015, 05:56:09 AM
Yea Forget Not was stunning, probably the best out of the four 10/10's I've given so far.


I'm definitely making Spotify my preferred method for receiving songs on my next roulette because it's far more convenient than any of the others. It would be fantastic if I didn't have to use Youtube or receive files at all, but I know that's an unrealistic expectation.
The convenience of clicking twice to add the song to your personal playlist makes both Youtube and Spotify so easy to use for these IMO, though Youtube is full of shit quality videos and videos that go on for 3 minutes after the song is over, they do have a way broader range of songs and artists. So I would probably not cancel out either of these, they both have their uses.


Anyway I'm gone for the day, send whenever, I've gotten like 5/12 so far. I'll be back tomorrow probably.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2015, 06:02:54 AM
I'm definitely making Spotify my preferred method for receiving songs on my next roulette because it's far more convenient than any of the others. It would be fantastic if I didn't have to use Youtube or receive files at all, but I know that's an unrealistic expectation.

Simple thing to do there is just convert the YT link to a .mp3 file, then save it in a directory that Spotify scans/imports.  That way, songs that aren't on Spotify, you can still make Spotify as the sole source of your playlist.  I was switching between iTunes and Spotify (for the songs that weren't on Spotify) for a couple of rounds before I realized I could listen to my own .mp3 files thru Spotify.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Bolsters on December 23, 2015, 06:15:57 AM
The convenience of clicking twice to add the song to your personal playlist makes both Youtube and Spotify so easy to use for these IMO, though Youtube is full of shit quality videos and videos that go on for 3 minutes after the song is over, they do have a way broader range of songs and artists. So I would probably not cancel out either of these, they both have their uses.
Unfortunately I'm aware of the fact that I'd never be able to completely abandon Youtube for roulettes. But I sure would like to. :lol

Simple thing to do there is just convert the YT link to a .mp3 file, then save it in a directory that Spotify scans/imports.  That way, songs that aren't on Spotify, you can still make Spotify as the sole source of your playlist.  I was switching between iTunes and Spotify (for the songs that weren't on Spotify) for a couple of rounds before I realized I could listen to my own .mp3 files thru Spotify.
Yeah I'm aware of its ability to do that, and I was considering loading up MP3s into it for my next one for that convenience. But, I especially like how easy it is to send/receive through it, the way you and I were for our roulettes. I definitely plan to encourage that for my v2, but of course I know it won't be possible all the time when stuff isn't on Spotify, and I also know some people can't use Spotify at all in some regions. But still, the more I can use Spotify the better as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: splent on December 23, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
Spotify makes things so much easier.

As far as Floyd, if you like that instrumental stuff, check out dark side of the moon. The whole album. Now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Evermind on December 23, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
and I also know some people can't use Spotify at all in some regions.

Yeah, that's me.

I'll send something either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Cyril on December 23, 2015, 08:59:54 AM
Always a bit annoying to see multiple other songs which I considered score higher than my own. Particularly Ne Obliviscaris, which has been my go-to in epic rounds for quite some time now. Oh well, hindsight bias aside, I'm glad you enjoyed the song.

I've sent
should've sent them in my roulette, i'm trying to avoid stepping on people's toes here so i probably wouldn't have sent them if they'd been sent to me in my roulette  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Evermind on December 23, 2015, 11:42:02 AM
Alright, I think I've got a fantastic song to send - which also marks it as the first time I'm sending this artist in roulettes because whenever I tried to do that before he was banned.

I'll probably get a 7 or less though, because that's just how these things work.

Off to send it.

Edit: aaand sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: jingle.boy on December 23, 2015, 01:11:08 PM
Not to derail the thread into a spotify discussion, but when it wasn't 'legal' in Canada, I got myself an id and ability to log in through a IP spoofer - I used justfreevpn.  The great thing about that was, once you logged in to Spotify (while the VPN was active), you could disconnect from the VPN (because the speed was horrible), but the Spotify app was too dumb to know what you weren't in an 'authorized' country anymore.  It was like getting into the bar with fake id, but no one except the bouncer ever checked your id.   :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: splent on December 23, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
Ok I'm sending my song now. It's gonna be a risk but I'm feeling festive.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: mikemangioy on December 24, 2015, 03:37:57 AM
SSENT
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Sacul on December 24, 2015, 09:10:00 AM
Will send in a few hours.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 25, 2015, 01:31:39 AM
Will send in a few hours.
:corn
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Sacul on December 25, 2015, 10:29:30 AM
I'd like to say I got drunk or something but I just simply forgot  :P

Sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Evermind on December 25, 2015, 10:40:23 AM
I'd like to say I got drunk or something but I just simply forgot  :P

Sent.

See, I have sent first and then I got drunk.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 25, 2015, 11:01:33 AM
The worst is when you get drunk, get over-confident with a certain song and actually send it. That's how I ended up sending World On Fire to Parama (true story)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Cyril on December 25, 2015, 11:05:23 AM
i thought you sent it bcuz myles kennedy
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 25, 2015, 11:36:52 AM
Well, I am the biggest Myles fan, and I noticed the lack of Myles on your list, so I was already determined to send Slash or Alter Bridge, but WOF has 17 songs on it, and at least 10 of them have a better vocal performance (1 of the other 6 songs is the instrumental 'Safari Inn').

I still obviously think higher of World on Fire than you, but I doubt I would ever send that song again when I might aswell send Beneath the Savage Sun/The Unholy/Battleground or whatever, those are the best three songs as far as Myles goes IMO.



P.S. I've gotten 10/12 submissions already, pretty quick. I don't expect to get the songs during X-mas, though I'll hereby give 425 and Elite a heads-up that they haven't sent me a song for this round yet.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: 425 on December 26, 2015, 08:01:34 PM
The presence of Elite in this roulette makes me feel pretty comfortable delaying a couple of days :lol

Just sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 27, 2015, 04:24:01 AM
For you, comfortable. I want my damn song Elite!


On a side note, I've just created a last.fm account yesterday because I thought it would be more representative of my music library in the future if I'm hosting another roulette or something. The problem though, the scrobbles never update, it still says I haven't listened to any music yet. Whazzap?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 05:58:42 AM
For you, comfortable. I want my damn song Elite!


On a side note, I've just created a last.fm account yesterday because I thought it would be more representative of my music library in the future if I'm hosting another roulette or something. The problem though, the scrobbles never update, it still says I haven't listened to any music yet. Whazzap?
If you are talking about scrobbling Spotify plays, you need to go into the Spotify preferences and put in your Last.fm username/password. Or are you unable to scrobble anything at all?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 27, 2015, 06:09:32 AM
Wasn't able to scrobble anything at all, but atleast I connected last.fm to Spotify so maybe it works through Spotify now, thanks
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 06:14:05 AM
Wasn't able to scrobble anything at all, but atleast I connected last.fm to Spotify so maybe it works through Spotify now, thanks
If you've downloaded the scrobbler and logged into that, you should be able to scrobble from any supported media player.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 27, 2015, 06:32:14 AM
Wasn't able to scrobble anything at all, but atleast I connected last.fm to Spotify so maybe it works through Spotify now, thanks
If you've downloaded the scrobbler and logged into that, you should be able to scrobble from any supported media player.
Awesome, I got it to work finally!

So concerning the roulette, I'll get the results for round 7 about 3 days after I get Elite's song, I'll give him a PM somewhere today. Don't expect to get results on NYE tho  :laugh:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Bolsters on December 27, 2015, 07:11:28 AM
Awesome, I got it to work finally!
Cool. I'm Bolsters on there too if you want to add me. ;)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Elite on December 29, 2015, 04:01:21 PM
sand
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - THE GIFT OF 10/10
Post by: Train of Naught on December 31, 2015, 05:46:01 AM
Cool cool cool.

I am now on last.fm (https://www.last.fm/user/TrainofNaught) (special thanks to Mr. Bolsters), and decided to mix up your roulette submissions with some randomly selected songs that kind of fit the style of songs I received, so it's not a complete give-away. There's one song I couldn't figure out how to scrobble so that one remains secret. That one aside, all of your songs are hidden in my scrobbles from the last two days.

I can say it's a pretty damn good round, I'm already having a hard time ranking the songs based on first impressions because most of it is just very good. Not sure if there's any 10/10 material but we'll see, I'm going to let the roulette rest for the day as I'm gonna be preparing party-related stuff, but I think results will be up by Sunday.

EDIT: Of course, I wish you all a great night and a happy new year!  :metal
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Elite on December 31, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
I'll add you! I also see somebody sent one of my favourite songs.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 31, 2015, 09:40:47 AM
i figure 425 sent the Death Cab for Cutie song  :P
also i get to be reminded that I still don't have an agalloch album because i am a failure
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on December 31, 2015, 11:21:23 AM
I'll add you! I also see somebody sent one of my favourite songs.

That would be me, I guess you mean The Canyon Behind Her, right?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on December 31, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
You guys know each other too well..
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on December 31, 2015, 12:07:20 PM
well 425 sent me that same death cab song in my roulette  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Elite on December 31, 2015, 12:08:43 PM
I'll add you! I also see somebody sent one of my favourite songs.

That would be me, I guess you mean The Canyon Behind Her, right?

Yes :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 01, 2016, 08:59:43 AM
I realize that 10 rounds might've been a bit too much to fit in 2 months with the amount of participants I accepted, but I'll speed up these final rounds a bit, round 7 results will be up tomorrow! This round I did not only receive the same artist twice, but it was with the exact same song, get original dudes. (obviously got another song afterwards)


Alrighty, as I kinda want to speed up I'd like Round 8 songs within 3-4 days after results are posted, optimally 1-2 days but I realize that that's gonna be hard to achieve.

Round 8: The Root of All Evil

As mentioned in the OP, themed round, again a very general theme though: Send me your dark/evil songs. That could be anything you interpret as dark or evil. Personally, things that come to my mind are the angry/raw sounding stuff RATM and Deftones make, but also the sinister/ominous stuff some of you have been sending me, take for example Shadow's Devil Doll song. But yea, don't take these examples too seriously, I think you all know pretty well what fits the theme and what doesn't.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 01, 2016, 09:37:53 AM
legit don't think i have any music that qualifies as "evil" so i'm just gonna send you something so dark it makes the color black look blindingly bright, ok
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 01, 2016, 11:28:13 AM
I don't like this theme at all, because my view on "dark" songs is usually differs with everyone's else.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: 425 on January 01, 2016, 06:52:30 PM
i figure 425 sent the Death Cab for Cutie song  :P

I don't know what you're talking about :P

Also, I just don't listen to much dark music, so that's what makes this hard for me, but I'll see what I have.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on January 01, 2016, 07:19:32 PM
You can always send one of my submissions in your roulette ;)

I've got plenty of dark stuff so this should be easy.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 02, 2016, 05:46:12 AM
Left my laptop which I think has like 9 out of 12 writeups on it at a friend's house last night, so I'll go get that soon and doublecheck everything this time around to make sure there's no scoring errors anymore. They should be up in a few hours.

As for the theme, there's tons of stuff that could be considered dark. If you check out the lyrics, atmosphere, instruments of a song you're bound to find something that fits the theme without limiting yourselves too much (hopefully).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Tyrias on January 02, 2016, 05:51:27 AM
Sent Round 8. I don't think it gets much darker than that.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on January 02, 2016, 06:34:53 AM
I probably won't be as snappy sending for this round as previous ones, I haven't had the time to dig for something just yet. I might be able to get around to it tomorrow, I might not.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 02, 2016, 06:37:45 AM
That's fine, I don't think you have any chance of being the last to send either way, but you've been one of the first in every round so far so I'm sure you won't forget about it as soon as some of the other participants whose names I will keep anonymous :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 02, 2016, 08:18:33 AM
Round 7 results!





splent
Beta Fleck and the Flecktones Ė Twelve Days of Christmas:

Iím always kinda interested in these musically experimental songs, with different keys and time signatures and stuff, and I find the idea pretty interesting, but I just canít genuinely enjoy this as much as I would with the other roulette submissions. As a genuine song, it didnít do too much for me. I liked some parts of it for sure, but after a while it just became one of those songs that I only listened to because I had to. Sorry, interesting concept, musically, not my cup of tea.

6/10


Bolsters
The Black Mages Ė The Rocking Grounds:

I should say that I never played any of the Final Fantasy games, but I did listen to the original version you sent to get a better idea of it. I love game soundtracks; this reenactment of the FF3 battle theme is pretty cool.  They sure did a great job with it, I would take The Black Magesí version over the original any day as a replacement, but other than being a good heavy cover of the original, it doesnít offer as much musically as the others. Highlight of the song: The main riff, it has very cool groovy guitars in it, Iím still not huge on the keyboards, which also mightíve dragged down the score below average a bit. 

7.5/10


425
Death Cab for Cutie Ė We Looked Like Giants:

At first I thought this was going to be one of those slow boring songs I was not really waiting for. Luckily that didnít last long as this guy started singing, great voice! He sounds very similar to that guy from Owl City. Anyway, this is a very uplifting song, I dig it, though unlike many songs, I prefer the first half of the song way more than the second half. Simply because I was getting this happy, poppy vibe from it, then it slowly transitioned into this repeating melody , not bad, but I can safely say it would get a higher score if the song overall was more like the first half.

8/10


senecadawg2
Agalloch Ė As Embers Dress the Sky:

This for me, was a song that I had little to no appeal towards on first listen, but woah, paying attention to everything thatís going on instead of fixating on the vocals this is a beautiful song. I hate when people are too quick to judge songs because one element doesnít appeal to them right away so Iím glad I gave it the attention that I did. Some highlights were the guitar melodies around 1:20 building up to a great instrumental section, acoustic transition into the second part of the song, and the harsh vocals near the end flowing into the last part.

8.5/10


Shadow Ninja 2.0
The Plot In You Ė Pillhead:

This is some pretty cool, and most of all accessible metalcore (that is what this is right?). Even though my favorite thing of this song is the clean part of chorus, Iím not at all turned off by these screams, theyíre very soothing for the song and transition  exceptionally well into the chorus. Being a pretty big fan of those fairly simply structured songs with angry vocals like RATM and Deftones for instance, this is, like mentioned in the beginning, pretty a pretty accessible song for me, you sending me something I feel comfortable listening to is kinda weird, even the Devil Doll song made me very uncomfortable, though that was the main reason it was so good.

8.5/10


Sacul
Bent Knee Ė Being Human:

Sometimes I really wonder whether these artists that seem to return in every roulette only have one song thatís worth sending, I always see Being Human, hopefully for good reason. I do like this, not as much as you guys probably, but man this woman can sing. Also I like the very proggy sections a lot, and the violin stands out too, who woulda thought. I do like this one more than the studio version so you did good on that.

8.5/10


mikemangioy
Twelve Foot Ninja Ė Coming for You:

Iím pretty sure Iíve seen the video for this song before, but not heard the music of it :lol, When he shouts ďBe ready Iím coming for youĒ the first time I was like wtf is this guy on about, sounded very odd. But the song redeems itself 1 second later anyway. I guess these guys take the term progressive very seriously, disco, tango, metal and more, all in one song. I had a good laugh watching the video, but in the end I seriously enjoyed it, too. I quite like this song, and while itís one of the most fun songs in this round and was originally contesting for round 7 winner, it didnít really grow on me, didnít really get more out of this song than I did on first listen. Nonetheless, I dig this and Iíll probably return to these guys in the future.

8.5/10


Elite
Theocracy Ė I Am:

Great intro first of all, this is one of the things I think symphonic/melodic/power metal bands excel at, because they are usually very.. well.. powerful. I very much enjoy the way these lyrics are shaped, itís catchy, its meaning is very clear yet poetic, and it builds up towards a very strong chorus. At one point I feel the overall sound is all over the place, a bit too much (starting at about 3:50), itís only like 10 seconds of this 11 minute song though so I wonít be a bitch about it. Loving that long instrumental section in the second half of the song, itís very prog very powah. All in all, I probably wouldnít mind if they cut up to a minute off this song but other than that I donít have much to complain about.
Sadly rarely anyone sends their song as quickly as Parama, so no Thank You Scientist profits for you, but this was a great second option.

9/10


Evermind
Amadeus Awad ft. Anneke van Giersbergen Ė Lonesome Clown:

Itís got power, itís got melody, itís got emotion, pretty much anything I want musically. I can see myself enjoying more music by this guy, because the song seems amazingly well crafted, with the awesome keyboard sections, cool chorus about how Ďdeath is just a feelingí. But what I very much adore is the spoken words in the end, where they put emphasis on those lyrics once more. Feels like this Amadeus guy knows exactly what heís doing.   Once again a song that I needed some time for to Ďgetí it, but like most of your songs in here, strong enough to be enjoyable for a guy who usually is not into this kind of music.

9/10


LordCost
Rishloo Ė Landmines:

Funny you should send this, I saw Rishloo give away a download link of this album on Christmas, from what Iíve heard from others the music sounds very promising but I managed to hold off until I ranked and reviewed your song. Indeed has a Mars Volta vibe like you said, and I canít help but love this kind of singing, it sounds so passionate and powerful. Musically itís a little less Mars Volta-ish, as it has a more metal edge to it opposed to the prog-rock, but I still really dig this song and can now look forward to checking out the whole album!

9/10


Tyrias
Dredg Ė The Canyon Behind Her:

Wow, this song feels like one of those relaxation tapes during the first minute. Iím really liking the overall atmosphere of this song, one of those (what I like to call) mountaintop songs. Just like the Thrice song in round 3, I donít think any individual instrument stands out as amazingly creative, the creativity this song holds is in the songwriting. Truly great song, very powerful chorus and fun little instrumental section. All of this layered with a wonderful relaxing intro and a great outro.

9,5/10


Parama
change my roulette entry:

to nothign, you deserve nothing
If anyone was wondering when the first 0/10 was gonna drop, here we have it. Sorry man, I liked your effort, but thereís simply nothing to rate :neverusethis:

0/10











Thank You Scientist Ė My Famed Disappearing Act:

I remember when trying out this band I was not at all appealed to the singers voice, seeing as Iím forced to give a TYS song more than 1 minute of attention that changed. Truly great musicianship in all of the band members, the vocalist fits pretty perfectly to the music so that past flaw has just become an advantage . Favorite part: ďSo goddamn, determined!Ē Chorus is great and catchy, kind of has a pop-edge to it which is a pretty fun way to mix up prog metal. Should also mention that I almost always like when vocal melodies return in the instrumentals, itís a simple yet great way of songwriting IMO. Werenít you in like 3rd to last place a few rounds ago?

9.5/10





Current Standings:

Elite: 53 + 9 = 62
Parama: 52 + 9.5 = 61.5
Evermind: 52 + 9 = 61
senecadawg2: 51.5 + 8.5 = 60
Tyrias: 50.5 + 9.5 = 60
425: 51.5 + 8 = 59.5
Sacul: 51 + 8.5 = 59.5
Bolsters: 50.5 + 7.5 = 58
LordCost: 49 + 9 = 58
splent: 50.5 + 6 = 56.5
mikemangioy: 48 + 8.5 = 56.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 45 + 8.5 = 53.5


We now (, I believe for the first time in this roulette since round 2,) have a top 3 without a tie between them. It's still not much of a difference, but we're getting there. I just realized that the "Banned during roulette" section hasn't been updated for a while so I'll go ahead and do that soon.

I should remind you that the top three move on to the final round, in this round, the advantage you've built up compared to the other finalists remains, so keep giving it a hundred % even if after round 9 it seems like you're in for sure.

Reminder: Round 8 is The Root of All Evil, dark/evil/sinister songs, you name it. If it has a dark atmosphere, somber lyrics, whatever, I'll take it! I hope to have the next round within the week, hopefully sooner.
Follow these guidelines:
send you something so dark it makes the color black look blindingly bright, ok
:corn


I think this covers about everything I've been meaning to announce to keep you updated and stuff, so drive safely, make your new year's resolutions come true and take care!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on January 02, 2016, 08:32:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1URvDyzh8uI

Will send something in a few days. I may be late this time around, I'm on holidays and Christmas is coming so yeah.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on January 02, 2016, 09:16:03 AM
Nice one! Glad you liked it so much, you should check out the whole album, it's all fantastic.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: LordCost on January 02, 2016, 09:29:55 AM
Wow, another great score, but it's almost impossible to reach top 3 for me at this point :'(
Sent round 8
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 02, 2016, 09:36:57 AM
ugh this sucks can you go back to giving me 7.5's?  :lol
also Being Human is at least as good as My Famed Disappearing Act and you're objectively wrong but w/e ok
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 02, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
Are you kidding me? I know that Bent Knee song won a round in your roulette and I think it even got a 9.5 or something but I don't see it, still nice song though.
My Famed Disappearing Act on the other hand, so powah.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 02, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
i mean i quite love the entire TYS album and could've sent one of five or so different songs and been happy with it but i also like Being Human a lot  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Elite on January 02, 2016, 01:41:34 PM
I sent TYS as well. Whatever, it only got a .5 more :)
A shame the dredg song scored higher as well though. That's like being ripped off twice in one round :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 02, 2016, 01:51:58 PM
I sent TYS as well. Whatever, it only got a .5 more :)
A shame the dredg song scored higher as well though. That's like being ripped off twice in one round :lol

I actually thought you were talking about the TYS song when you said that one of your faves was in this round, laughed out loud when out of all songs on here it was the only other song scoring higher than yours  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 02, 2016, 02:23:53 PM
this is why i send my entries ASAP  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: mikemangioy on January 02, 2016, 03:22:01 PM
This roulette is strange. I seem to always get good points but I'm friggin' low  :lol
Sending soon
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: mikemangioy on January 03, 2016, 02:27:43 PM
...and sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 03, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
This roulette is strange. I seem to always get good points but I'm friggin' low  :lol
Sending soon
Yea I kinda hate myself for being so easy on the scores, makes getting a good score way less satisfying.

If I ever do another of these I'll either do the 1 point for last 2 points for 2nd to last etc.. or think real hard about how to score properly.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 03, 2016, 04:52:34 PM
i was still too nice in my roulette tbh tho i stand behind both 10's and the 9.5's as well for the most part
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: splent on January 03, 2016, 07:09:02 PM
I'm going to fail this round like last round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 05, 2016, 04:27:19 AM
Need 4 more to go! 425, Sacul and Evermind haven't send anything yet. Splent, in case you missed the PM, you have to re-send, I already know that song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on January 05, 2016, 04:29:42 AM
I'll try to send today. As I said, busy with holidays.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 05, 2016, 05:11:57 AM
Yeah just a heads-up, I feel this trio of roulettes is very laid-back, want to keep it somewhat active during the wait (by active I mean I'd like to atleast keep them on page 1 which barely happens).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Elite on January 05, 2016, 05:17:27 AM
Guess who's not last this time!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: 425 on January 05, 2016, 07:52:42 AM
I'll try to send today. As I said, busy with holidays having just had my wisdom teeth cut out of my head.

FTFM
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 05, 2016, 08:01:41 AM
I'll try to send today. As I said, busy with holidays having just had my wisdom teeth cut out of my head.

FTFM
Well fuck, I just made an appointment for that yesterday, not looking forward at it at all..



 :hefdaddy Elite punctuality
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on January 05, 2016, 08:05:13 AM
I've experienced that. They (wisdom teeth) almost weren't showing up yet, but I needed to do that to set my teeth straight later. They've cut out those teeth from both sides.

I took three days off at work after that because my face was swollen so much I couldn't possibly show up there. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 05, 2016, 08:22:53 AM
In some cases your face swells up so much you can't see the screen, making you unable to send songs  :-\
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 05, 2016, 09:25:38 AM
getting your wisdom teeth pulled is literally the worst
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: 425 on January 06, 2016, 09:13:35 PM
It actually hasn't been too awful for me, at least not as bad as people make it sound. But I think a lot of it depends on just where they are positioned, and mine were positioned where they were fairly easy to get out. I don't know.

Anyway, sent something. I'm not very good at dark/depressing themes... Unlike most people on this forum, probably, I'd actually do better with an "uplifting" round than a "depressing" round.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 07, 2016, 02:12:25 AM
Oh you're not the only one who claims this, heh. Maybe in hindsight I shouldn't have done some of the themes but whatever.

I'll try to get results up either tomorrow or saturday, almost through my first listen.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 7 RESULTS/8 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 07, 2016, 07:02:46 AM
First listen is done, currently I'm doing it a bit differently, writing down all my first thoughts of every song seems like a better way to accurately describe what I feel than just writing down a summary of my overall experience.
Probably no one is beating their highest score in this round (though one person is pretty close), which isn't too crazy because I don't think anyone hasn't gotten at least a 9+ by now. I'm glad I did this round because there's some songs I would never have discovered otherwise because you guys would probably not feel comfortable sending them, but obviously not everyone liked doing this round, still it worked out fine for the most part.

Not going to do any of the last.fm/artist revealing/quotes BS, results tomorrow. Cheers!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on January 07, 2016, 07:14:29 AM
I'm glad I did this round because there's some songs I would never have discovered otherwise because you guys would probably not feel comfortable sending them, but obviously not everyone liked doing this round, still it worked out fine for the most part.

This is definitely not about me.

By the way, the title says the results are already here. That's unfair.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 07, 2016, 07:15:35 AM
Oh crap, meant to say ROUND 8 LISTENING, sorry  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on January 07, 2016, 07:29:23 AM
Oh crap, meant to say ROUND 8 LISTENING, sorry  :facepalm:
:loser:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 LISTENING
Post by: splent on January 07, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
Very well could be me. I don't listen to a lot of dark stuff, so I sent something very angsty.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 08:06:12 AM
Well I have the writeups and scores ready to go.. suddenly my internet connection died, sending this from my phone. So you can expect results whenever I get my connection back.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 08:51:25 AM
Round 8 results!!
For this round I took my evil pill.


Parama
The Angelic Process Ė Dying in a Minor:

Meh, first impression is just meh. I could have this song playing and totally forget about something that happened 2 seconds ago, no reslitening value to me. I want to like these type of songs but itís just not working. Maybe itíll get better after 2-3 more listens?

Nope, still not feeling it. After sending your 2 best songs of the entire roulette you managed to follow it up with something I really donít get, and receives the lowest score of your songs thus far. I thought I had mentioned this in my thoughts after the first listen, but 8 minutes, really? I was done with this song after a minute, I have to see what this album is all about at some point simply out of curiosity.

6/10



LordCost
Cave In Ė Requiem:

First impressions: The music is fitting to the theme alright, Iím not a big fan of this singer as of yet, and not too fond of the middle section, either. I feel that for a 9 minute song it offers shockingly little. It does get better near the end, and closes on a dark note, but yeah, Iíll have to see if I end up enjoying it more.

I still donít like how it takes so long to build up to the main part of the song, which ends up being nothing too special. Maybe thatís where the beauty lies, but not for me. When I hear this song I just want to skip ahead to the 6th minute or so, where I finally start to get interested. The dark powerchords around there are pretty cool. The ending climax is still my favorite part, just yea, takes too long for me to get interested in this. I can see why people would enjoy this more than I do though.

6.5/10



Splent
Tori Amos Ė The Waitress:

Sorry I had to reject Strange Fruit, thatís a wonderful song though and very good for this theme, sends chills down my spine everytime I hear it. The chorus of the Tori Amos song kinda creeps me out though, I donít know how to react to it, but in the end itís pretty neat, because I think it serves the song and its atmosphere well. Itís still just.. extra-ordinary. Letís see how this turns out a few listens from now. 

Iím still a bit weirded out by the chorus, but it makes sense for this song I guess. The last minute of  the song is significantly better though, and I kept looking forward to it whenever this song came up. Sure the end doesnít have much to offer musically, but it ends on a very gloomy note and may not have the best vocals technically, but they do fit way better to the atmosphere.

6.5/10



Sacul
Ulver Ė Eos:

My first impression of this song came from outside my own experience, always heard great things about this song and I just didnít understand it, well now I got to listen to it in full focus myself, but I still donít get it, whatís so godlike about this song? I should say with the exception of one or two songs ever, I rarely enjoy ambient, or just any song purely based on creating an atmosphere, out of the context of the album.

For what it is, I like it, but nothing more. The way they create the atmosphere is quite nice, and the violin is very depressing-sounding, but I donít think I will go out of my ways to listen to this.

7/10



Tyrias
Chelsea Wolfe Ė Carrion Flowers:

Needless to say, this is dark as shit, so thereís that. The atmosphere is kinda there, Iím not really into this like I am with some of the other songs though, and the singer does not really wow me either. Thereís this crazy ass bass guitar (at least I think thatís what it is) throughout the song thatís supposed to invoke a very dark feeling, but it kinda puts me off.

I am now less annoyed by that main bassline (still not entirely sure if thatís a bass), so this did get better, but not much. The song has alright vocal melodies, a fairly good singer which Iím personally not too fond of, but purely objective Iíd say itís a great voice. Itís still in the category of Ďnothing about this makes me want to revisit thisĎ, not the worst of the round, either.
Okay, Iím starting to get this song a bit more, and itís alright, still not part of the round 8 favorites but definitely a grower on consecutive listens.

7.5/10



Shadow Ninja 2.0
PJ Harvey Ė Down By the Water:

First impressions: This song gives me the chills, creepy whistling towards the end of the song, not overly complex, catchy vocals, yeah Iím quite liking this so far, not an outstanding track but itís pretty good.

Getting some weird blues vibe from the beginning, but in a very dark way. Iím still convinced that I will at some point forget that I ever heard this song, but right now Iím liking this alright. Itís just nothing spectacular, solid scores win the race (unfortunately thatís probably too late for you now though).
Very cool song, Iím beginning to like this a bit more.

8/10



425
Sufjan Stevens Ė No Shade in the Shadow of the Cross:

For the shortest song of the round, I gotta say this is pretty cool. When you listen to this for the first time it feels like a pretty uplifting song, but then you pay more attention to the song, and it turns out to be this inauspicious little song. So far so good..

Still a very good song, somehow reminds me of Brand New a bit. Overall I donít think this would be a round winning song, itís pretty simple but it works very well in its simplicity. Still a very solid song, and offers a lot in just under 3 minutes.

8/10



Bolsters
Primal Fear Ė When Death Comes Knocking:

Hell yea, a metal tune for this round, why not? It fits the bill. First impressions: Very strong vocals, killer guitarwork, and certainly some dark melodies, the pre-chorus especially. Your other classic-metal sounding tune (from Thunderstone) was great, and Iím on the same page with this song, very, very solid metal.

For sure upper half of the round, Iím confident that this is one of the artists I will check out regardless, because I think Iíve heard a song from these guys that bl5150 either sent or received in a roulette and it was killer. Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove I believe it was called. So overall, this song is pretty amazing, I like the Home guitars (whaddya call them, eastern guitars?) in the pre-chorus and the beginning of the instrumental section, aswell as this killer main riff, the slow pace really adds to the power of the melody. I could do without hearing the title a hundred times in the chorus, but Iím not too bothered by it.

8.5/10



Elite
Obsidian Kingdom Ė Not Yet Five/Oncoming Dark/Through the Glass/Cinnamon Balls (Mantiis)

So these are the first four songs off the album, which could be seen as one big song. First impression of this piece is that it fits the theme perfectly, first off. Secondly, I went to check the lyrics, ĎCinnamon BallsĎ is a curious name for a song and you mentioned they sing about fucked up shit. Itís indeed fucked up, the music doesnít come across as fucked up in an uncomfortable way though, which is nice.

Liking this song, still. The dudes calm voice in Oncoming Dark matches the music amazingly well. All the transitions are close to perfect, but the one from Oncoming Dark to Through the Glass is literally unnoticable. Cinnamon Balls, as the final section of your submission, is about as crazy as it gets, resulting in some weird-ass-yet-amazing breakdown. I didnít know what I was experiencing half of the time, but I knew I liked it. Itís melancholic at times, it sure as hell was evil. I guess Iíll have to check out the whole ĎsongĎ at some point, Iím digging this shit.

8.5/10



Mikemangioy
Swans Ė Lunacy:

From the first round of listening, Iíve learned that mostly, atmosphere is the name of the game this round, and judging from my first impressions of this song, they do one hell of a job with it. The ĎLunacyĎ chanting towards the climax at 4:10 is nice, I donít know how I feel about the rest of the song yet, but itís well-crafted, itís definitely got that going.

One of the songs where I feel I was spot on with my first impressions, still feel the same way. This vibe that they carry on throughout the song is wicked gloomy, and while I was still pretty undecided about the final part of the song, I think I can safely say that this is one of my favorites from this round.
Okay I am not undecided anymore, amazing vibe throughout the whole song, not just the middle. This might very well have been the best song for this theme if it wasnít for seneca, Lunacy is a beautiful disaster, have some points.

This is also the first time Iím doing this during results, but Coming For You was the one song I kept returning to besides the dredg and Thank You Scientist songs, Iím feeling more comfortable about my recent scoring, and a + 0.5 feels like the right thing to do here.

9(+.5)/10



Evermind
Opeth Ė Windowpane:

Yes, this was allowed, never heard anything from the album Damnation. First impression of this song is actually pretty great, Iím all sorts of excited about the guitarwork on this song, they make a very fine line between a dark atmosphere and just straight up groovy vibes.

Yes or no? Definitely yes, this is cool! Opeth sounds like an uninspired thing to send in a DTF roulette, and maybe you really did not have much of an option with this theme like you said, but screw it, this is awesome. Guitarwork is still groovy as hell, Mikaelís clean vocals have always appealed to me unlike others, and the way he makes it sound so dark and depressing here is enjoyable (as far as enjoyable goes for a depressing song). Have some well-deserved points.

As to your comment yesterday, yea I definitely wouldíve found out about this song either way because Damnation was already on my list, but that wasnít necessarily a bad thing, this album has just become more interesting.

9/10



Senecadawg2

Circle Takes the Square Ė Enter the Narrow Gates:

If your goal is to creep me out, youíve done good, those (almost) isolated choir-y vocals in the beginning are kinda haunting. Yeah as far as evil goes, it doesnít get much better than this. I think I gotta award some bonus points for managing to surpass all the songs by such big a margin when it comes to the theme. Musically, after my first listen, Iím a fan of the riffing during the metal parts, screams add a lot to the power of the song, and the mellow parts are very gloomy which also adds to the theme of the song, Iím liking this.

Iíve gotten some names Iím pretty familiar with, Opeth, Swans, Chelsea Wolfe, Primal Fear, etc. This, Iím completely unfamiliar with, and it fucking blows my mind. From the first listen I knew I would keep liking this, but it has grown on me even more since. The song feels like itís a 10+ minute song with a crazy yet epic theme to it, all of this is stuffed into a sub 7 minute song with subtle transitions. I might like this song more than your very first song in this roulette, making this your best song so far. Attaboy.

9+0.5=9.5/10




I enjoyed this way of making writeups more than I did previously so I think I'll stick to the first thoughts>final thoughts layout for the rest of the roulette, I feel this way I can get my thoughts across more clearly.
I'll post the standings shortly, just getting this out there so you can have a look and send songs for Round 9 A.S.A.P., we're hopefully finishing the standard 10 rounds within the next 12 days orso and then it's just the best 3 of you doing the finals.

Round 9: Paschendale

It was at this point that I had run out of original song titles and just ended up entering a random name of one of my favorite songs that also sounded pretty cool, open round folks! It's the last open round, so make good use of it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on January 08, 2016, 08:57:43 AM
I did have other options (maybe I'll send a few of them to you after this roulette), both non-metal and metal ones, but this was the song I enjoyed the most out of those. Besides, it's not that fun playing in a roulette if you don't cheat a bit somewhere. Like when I sent Avantasia in Brent's. :lol

Also, great pick from Bolsters. I didn't even think of this Primal Fear song, but yeah, it definitely fits the "dark" theme.

I'll try sending something today, but in case it won't work, I'll send something by Sunday.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 08, 2016, 09:00:07 AM
sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 09:01:34 AM
Current Standings

Elite: 62 + 8.5 = 70.5
Evermind: 61 + 9 = 70
senecadawg2: 60 + 9.5 = 69.5
Parama: 61.5 + 6 = 67.5
Tyrias: 60 + 7.5 = 67.5
425: 59.5 + 8 = 67.5
Sacul: 59.5 + 7 = 66.5
Bolsters: 58 + 8.5 = 66.5
mikemangioy: 56.5 + 9.5 = 66
LordCost: 58 + 6.5 = 64.5
splent: 56.5 + 6.5 = 63
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 53.5 + 8 = 61.5

Elite, Evermind and Seneca are in the lead, not by enough to already be able to call it a day, but the end is coming near.. Parama's fail made him go from #2 to a three-way tie with Tyrias and 425. Sacul, Bolsters and Mike aren't far behind either and both still have a good shot of making finals, they have to deliver two really really good songs though. LordCost splent and Shadow would need a miracle to make the finals at this point, but miracles are worth fighting for ight?



Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 09:03:05 AM
Besides, it's not that fun playing in a roulette if you don't cheat a bit somewhere. Like when I sent Avantasia in Brent's. :lol

Gotta slip in that cheat somewhere. If it weren't for the cheaty moves I wouldn't have heard Shine On You Crazy Diamond by now, hell yeah.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on January 08, 2016, 10:03:40 AM
Goddamnit Mike :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on January 08, 2016, 10:34:57 AM
I have three more artist to send and only two rounds left.
I expect a result like this, I thought that sending an epic from the same artist was a safer choice because you generally like epics but it didn't work :D
I think I will send metal for the next two rounds that has worked well on this roulette for me
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 10:54:30 AM
Metal! :metal

Top 25 roulette songs thus far:

1. Voices from the Fuselage Ė Meteorites
2. Ne Obliviscaris Ė Forget Not
3. The Human Abstract Ė Antebellum
4. Devil Doll Ė Mr Doctor
5. Thank You Scientist Ė My Fames Disappearing Act
6. Avantasia Ė Scarecrow
7. Circle Takes the Square Ė Enter the Narrow Gates
8. Jolly Ė Despite the Shell
9. Anathema Ė Thin Air
10. Thrice Ė Wood & Wire
11. Destrage Ė Are You Kidding Me? No.
12. Frost* - Milliontown
13. Dredg Ė The Canyon Behind Her
14. Yes Ė Roundabout
15. Transatlantic Ė Duel With the Devil
16. Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond
17. David Maxim Micic Ė Where Is Now?
18. Coheed and Cambria Ė Key Entity Extraction I: Domino The Destitute
19. Rishloo Ė Landmines
20. Caravan Palace Ė Suzy
21. Twelve Foot Ninja Ė Coming For You
22. Ben Folds Five Ė One Angry Dwarf And 200 Solemn Faces
23. Glen Hansard Ė Bird of Sorrow
24. Opeth Ė Windowpane
25. Jeff Buckley Ė Grace

This is interesting, from this I learned that you all have great taste, itís just a matter of connecting it with my tastes, or sharing something accessible in a style that Iím not very familiar with, I also learned that Sacul performs best with songs containing a question mark in the title.
Hereís how the top 25 songs are distributed among you, everyone has at least one song in it:

Elite: 3
Evermind: 2
senecadawg2: 3
Parama: 3
Tyrias: 2
425: 2
Sacul: 2
Bolsters: 1
mikemangioy: 1
LordCost: 3
splent: 2
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 1
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 08, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
Sorry for not going back through and reading the rules and everything carefully, but is this the last round before elimination? And in the final round, with the top 3, are the scores reset?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 11:20:00 AM
Sorry for not going back through and reading the rules and everything carefully, but is this the last round before elimination? And in the final round, with the top 3, are the scores reset?
All good.

There's two more rounds in which all participants send songs, the next one is the last open round, and the tenth round is a closing themed round. After that, the bottom 9 will be eliminated, I got potential tie-breakers figured out in case it happens, but I don't expect this.
Scores don't reset, and the point advantage that the #1 has on the other two won't be his only advantage in the final round, will explain how this works later on, but basically the three finalists all send a piece of max. 20 minutes, containing multiple songs.
The at that point #1 has the freedom of choice for something I'll reveal soon enough, while the #3 has to go with the last remaining option. The choice he'll make will not directly affect his score, but can make sending the right songs easier and more comfortable.

This is all kinda vague but you'll see.


BTW I'm hoping to get round 9 songs within the next couple of days, is 3 days from now a reasonable deadline?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 08, 2016, 11:32:14 AM
That all sounds good. And I'm glad you enjoyed ma the evil song. Like I said, I might could've gone darker, but I don't think that would've worked to my advantage.

I'll send round 9 soon
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: mikemangioy on January 08, 2016, 11:48:44 AM
Very nice! sending soon.

EDIT: Sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: 425 on January 08, 2016, 12:01:37 PM
Hey, nice! Glad you liked it. The whole album Carrie and Lowell is full of sad little acoustic songs like that.

Working on what to send next. We're reaching the point in the roulette where I'm running low on artists! :lol I'll be fine, but I need to figure out who I want to send this time and who next time.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on January 08, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
Well, damn, that could have gone better.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: LordCost on January 08, 2016, 12:37:16 PM
Sent! Glad to have 3 songs in the top 25 :)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Tyrias on January 08, 2016, 01:13:21 PM
Sent for next round. Depending on how this goes, I might just say fuck it next round and take a huge risk with my last song.

But first, I hope you like this one.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on January 08, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
ah good back out of the top 3
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 08, 2016, 01:53:59 PM
Sent! Glad to have 3 songs in the top 25 :)
Yeah your highs were incredibly good, actually Antebellum might be my #2, beating Forget Not, I've been returning to it a lot.

Already got 4 songs within a couple of hours, keep it up!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on January 08, 2016, 07:15:16 PM
I did have other options (maybe I'll send a few of them to you after this roulette), both non-metal and metal ones, but this was the song I enjoyed the most out of those. Besides, it's not that fun playing in a roulette if you don't cheat a bit somewhere. Like when I sent Avantasia in Brent's. :lol
I briefly considered sending Opeth myself, but I was thinking more along the lines of a Blackwater Park or Watershed song.

I will send out my round 9 submission later this evening.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Sacul on January 08, 2016, 07:28:03 PM
Sent something pretty fucked up.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 08, 2016, 10:46:39 PM
Sent something that continues with the aggressive trend. Don't know why exactly, but I think you might like it just as much, if not more, than all of my other submissions.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Bolsters on January 09, 2016, 05:01:30 AM
Sent some 80's hard rock.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Elite on January 09, 2016, 07:48:33 AM
Sent an aggressive song as well.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 09, 2016, 08:00:12 AM
In a world.. where half the entries are either fucked up as shit or agressive as shit.. and Shadow Ninja is not a part of that half :ninja:

Already have 8/12 songs, great pace guys.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: jingle.boy on January 09, 2016, 08:47:34 AM
I did have other options (maybe I'll send a few of them to you after this roulette), both non-metal and metal ones, but this was the song I enjoyed the most out of those. Besides, it's not that fun playing in a roulette if you don't cheat a bit somewhere. Like when I sent Avantasia in Brent's. :lol

Win if you can; lose if you must; but always cheat.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 09, 2016, 11:29:42 AM
In a world.. where half the entries are either fucked up as shit or agressive as shit.. and Shadow Ninja is not a part of that half :ninja:

Already have 8/12 songs, great pace guys.

Damn, can't wait to see what I sent.

:shadowninja:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: splent on January 09, 2016, 04:17:52 PM
I'll send tonight. Stop rejecting my songs :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Cyril on January 09, 2016, 07:26:20 PM
I sent in this roulette and all others  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 10, 2016, 04:21:42 AM
Alrighty, almost have all the songs, 2 left, if I have them by tomorrow morning max. I'm confident that we can end the standard 10 rounds by the end of next week, so yeah.

(https://i.imgflip.com/x4db5.jpg)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Evermind on January 10, 2016, 04:28:21 AM
I'll send today in a few hours, as I said. Just need to get home first.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 8 REAL RESULTS
Post by: Train of Naught on January 10, 2016, 06:15:47 PM
425 clear yo inbox, or send me a song, either I would be fine with.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 425
Post by: 425 on January 10, 2016, 10:22:40 PM
Yeah, sorry about the inbox thing, I've been trying to stay on top of it but I'm getting all sorts of PMs at the moment. I'll send in just a few minutes.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 06:35:14 AM
This time around, here are all my thoughts on your songs after the first listen, I'm giving every song a total of 3 or 4 listens, and results will be up in 1 or 2 days, I want to get the last round done pretty quickly after this one so maybe posting first thoughts could give you more time to think about your last song, make it count, because it could very well be the last!

Once more here are the standings after Round 8 results:

Elite: 62 + 8.5 = 70.5
Evermind: 61 + 9 = 70
senecadawg2: 60 + 9.5 = 69.5
Parama: 61.5 + 6 = 67.5
Tyrias: 60 + 7.5 = 67.5
425: 59.5 + 8 = 67.5
Sacul: 59.5 + 7 = 66.5
Bolsters: 58 + 8.5 = 66.5
mikemangioy: 56.5 + 9.5 = 66
LordCost: 58 + 6.5 = 64.5
splent: 56.5 + 6.5 = 63
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 53.5 + 8 = 61.5



I'll just go ahead and open the last round, which is...

Round 10: This is the End
This is the eeeeeeeend (https://www.infinitelooper.com/?v=9f3McqctPSA#/178;187) It's been a great experience guys, and every single one of you has at least gotten me to really like a song so much that I want to check out the album. Sadly, 9 of you have to leave, and it's coming down to this round. Send me your closing songs! Great album closers, or songs that could close an album very well, whatever works for you.


So here are my first impressions:


Tyrias:

Iím not very familiar with Indie Rock, I listen to one or two bands that could be classified as Indie. On first listen Iím not getting a whole lot out of this, vocals are pretty good, I like the guitars. Drums, not so much, theyíre there, nothing especially interesting IMO. So overall itís ok, but I donít think this will be a game changer.



Senecadawg2:

Melodic death metal? Awesome, been looking for a good one anyway, maybe thisíll fill that hole. You mightíve noticed Gojira on my list. Indeed a lot of harsh vocal songs have scored high, but they are a bit risky sometimes, this is a style of growling that I find easier to tolerate however, itís that kind of growling thatís kind of a blend between screaming and just singing very loudly (if itís not clear what I mean by that, Gojira and Machine Head both have the style I;m talking about).
But yea on to the song, on first listen, Iím pretty damn impressed at how well this song transitions from the almost-relaxing guitarwork into the melodeath-style verses, over and over. I quite like the chorus and itís pretty catchy, not my favorite part of the song though, Iím more into the verses and these short calm guitar passages. Will he secure a top 3 spot? Will he even push for the top spot?
Yo Train, no more fucking around.
Find out, in 1 or 2 days.



Mikemangioy:


Hmm, first impressions: Is this their newer stuff? I could never really get into most of their older stuff but I quite like this. The singer is IMO more tolerable here, and the music is more straightforward, so itís not that hard to follow whatís happening musically. It has that in-your-face rock edge to it that I really enjoy, along with some likable vocal melodies. Iím liking this.



Sacul:

Youíre damn right you took a risk, but why the hell not? The roulette is almost over, time for some whacky shit. So maybe as a song this can really weird people out, but I think this song particularly, and probably Igorrr in general, is looked at as a form of art more than anything. I donít see myself listening to this kind of stuff though, itís a tad bit overwhelming for someone who has just listened to it once. I doubt it will suddenly click with me too, I applaud you for your courage, but I donít think the over the top electronic elements and the all over the place singer will be a grower.



Elite:

Is this really what thrash metal sounds like now? I guess I have no idea what thrash is anymore, but what the hell, whatever genre, this is a great song! The guitars during the verses are mind-boggling, it adds so much power to the vocals. Overall I like how this song gets straight down to business, it has the progressive edge, but no unnecessary instrumental sections, all business. Which gives the song plenty of time to get everything done in just 4 minutes, they do squeeze in a guitar solo, an amazing one at that, but that aside, itís pretty straightforward.

En het refrein is instantaan meezingbaar.



Splent:

Still not sure how I feel about classic rock, it differs a lot, and I think the closest something came to this song in my roulette was Journey in round 1. Overall, the first 2 minutes of the song donít do a whole lot for me, it gets a lot better starting from the 3rd minute though. Not a winning round 9 song by any means so far, but itís a good rocker!



Evermind:

Gooíol power metal :metal sure why not? Youíve oddly managed to make it work a couple of times already. First thoughts: I was just hoping the vocals wouldnít be a total disaster, and they werenít, maybe I like power metal more than I thought I did. Also a big fan of eastern stuff in music, this song has loads of it. That quiet middle-section is beautiful, youíve got your shit together when it comes to long songs, this ties it up very nicely.  I wonít really be going into the story yet, I donít mind the cheese, because musically this song is awesome, and thatís what itís about for me at the moment. Having now heard all songs of the current top 3, the rest of the guys better have some crazy good stuff to keep up.



425:

Nope, never heard this song. I was a bit underwhelmed after the first minute, but it gets tons better after that. From what Iíve heard now, this song does the ďchill acousticď style youíre going for better than the last song, and that one was already pretty good. Musically this is a pretty simplistic song, but thatís alright, Iíve been into a lot of straightforward stuff for all my life. The vocals are powerful enough to make this not just another simple acoustic song, so far.... so good.



Bolsters:

Donít know a lot of Whitesnake songs, but after my first listen of this song, I honestly thought they were way softer than this, like your average 80ís rock band, but this is just some juicy hardrock, even getting some metal vibes from it. Iím liking the husky vocals, very different from the other Whitesnake songs I heard. Guitar solo isnít doing much for me, but the rest of the guitarwork on this song is pretty strong.



Parama:

Apparently this music is labeled as sludge metal, no idea what that is, I guess Iíll find out. First thoughts: I actually thought this band was full-on harsh vox, the clean verses are quite nice, but I was expecting heavy shit. That instrumental section starting at like 3 minutes in actually kinda bores me, itís going nowhere. The second half of the song is better, but I still am not very impressed by this song, maybe you were afraid to send me some of their heavier stuff and went for something more accessible instead? I did like the vocals, but the song overall hasnít really wowed me at any point. Maybe itís a grower.



LordCost:


I have all the confidence in the world that you will manage to deliver another amazing track, youíve been doing phenomenal in a lot of the rounds, with a few oddballs. Liking the intro, pretty energetic metal stuff. The verse feels like itís just there, not too special, but the way it built up to the chorus is great, and the chorus itself is awesome, with epic backing vocals and just some good metal lead vocals. The overall style of pure agression in the middle of the song is perfectly executed, you can really feel the anger. Ending is just great aswell, keeps up the quality with one last blast. I got a good feeling about this song.



Shadow Ninja 2.0:

Interesting, acoustic guitar-singer with an eccentric twist. This might be the single most talented person Iíve gotten in this roulette, he is pretty much playing guitar, drums and singing all at once, I wouldnít believe it if this wasnít a live recording. Enough about him, the music is just.. beautiful, even if it was an entire band Iíd still be impressed.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 11, 2016, 07:13:03 AM
Hmm... Maybe I can tie Evermind, even though his song also impressed. Looks like Elite will most likely remain out of reach, unless mine grew on you with additional listens.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Bolsters on January 11, 2016, 07:21:49 AM
Pretty sure I know what Evermind and the Ninja sent.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 11, 2016, 07:22:49 AM
I thought I recognized Evermind's as well, based on the comment about 'Eastern' melodies.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 11, 2016, 07:55:40 AM
Pretty sure I know what Evermind and the Ninja sent.

Well, it's a great song, so why the hell not.

Also, I'm pretty sure Bolsters sent Whitesnake.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 08:05:33 AM

Also, I'm pretty sure Bolsters sent Whitesnake.
:facepalm:

At first I thought maybe I described the song so well that you recognized it.. what a fail. Anyway, I scrobbled all the songs on last.fm so you can click my sig for the songs (everything has been scrobbled today), I didn't plan on keeping it a surprise anyway. Except for the :shadowninja: song, which I couldn't scrobble. The description of his song is pretty specific though and I guess if you know the artist it shouldn't be too cryptic.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 11, 2016, 08:41:23 AM
Oh yeah, I remember sending that now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 09:25:36 AM
i'm just sending various songs from the same artist to everyone tbh and trying to send a different song each time to see what happens, but they're really not the heaviest of the heavy most of the time

also LordCost did well and sent the Vangough song i really liked on first listen this time  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Sacul on January 11, 2016, 09:29:36 AM
Now everyone know what I sent  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 09:31:21 AM
i sent intronaut for what it's worth
i was considering Digital Gerrymandering as an option as well but that would've been the third song I sent off the same album and i wanted to mix it up, and both songs are really great anyways  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 09:34:03 AM
The new intronaut album was already on my wishlist so that would've been a cool start  :-\
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 09:34:34 AM
well you can still check out the album if you want  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 09:35:07 AM
NO! IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY PARAMA, IT WOULDN'T BE THE SAME
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 09:38:55 AM
pretend i sent Digital Gerrymandering then if you want i dunno lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: LordCost on January 11, 2016, 11:25:26 AM
also LordCost did well and sent the Vangough song i really liked on first listen this time  :lol
It's impressive that you have guessed it among every possible metal song in the world I could have sent :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 11, 2016, 11:29:40 AM
also LordCost did well and sent the Vangough song i really liked on first listen this time  :lol
It's impressive that you have guessed it among every possible metal song in the world I could have sent :hefdaddy

I bet the Train of Naught's last.fm profile turned out to be quite a help for the guessing.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 11:30:34 AM
Russ beat me to it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 11:32:38 AM
 :rollin
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: LordCost on January 11, 2016, 11:50:16 AM
I forgot to watch it after round 7, I thought Train won't spoil nothing anymore :facepalm:

I'm thinking to send a band I forget its existence until today, but I'm not sure. I'll send soon
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
i'm having to change my round 10 entry bcuz of Train's response to round 8's song, so i'll send in something fairly soon hopefully
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 12:43:19 PM
BTW I haven't mentioned this yet but since it's a closing round and a lot of cool closers are kinda lengthy, I'll allow longer songs aswell.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: 425 on January 11, 2016, 01:34:42 PM
Sent Light of Day, Day of Darkness.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
425 that's for the album opener round, not album closer round
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 11, 2016, 02:08:18 PM
Technically it's also the last song on the album  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 11, 2016, 02:10:02 PM
the interlude happens after the 30 minute mark tho so it's more an opener than a closer  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: mikemangioy on January 11, 2016, 02:18:46 PM
Yep, that song will be from their last album.
Also, I know Lucas' song  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: splent on January 11, 2016, 03:35:04 PM
 I don't even remember what song I sent. But I'm glad that you liked it, I wish that you liked it more. LOL.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 9 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 12, 2016, 06:46:49 AM
Done 3 listens now, I have writeups set to go, but I just want to give it a bit more thought, check everything one more time, BTW this round I won't be posting from worst to best, but in the order you are all placed in the standings from lowest to highest after round 9. I've scored everything now (not definitive yet) and the standings are looking pretty interesting  ;)

Results will be posted in max an hour but I think earlier.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 12, 2016, 07:33:22 AM
Round 9 Results!!
So these songs aren't ranked from worst to best, don't sweat it Shadow, you did great this round  :biggrin:

The first paragraph is just the same thing I posted earlier, so if it looks familiar, just read the last part.



Shadow Ninja 2.0

Jon Gomm Ė Passionflower:

Interesting, acoustic guitar-singer with an eccentric twist. This might be the single most talented person Iíve gotten in this roulette, he is pretty much playing guitar, drums and singing all at once, I wouldnít believe it if this wasnít a live recording. Enough about him, the music is just.. beautiful, even if it was an entire band Iíd be impressed.

I already have huge amounst of respect for this guy, his musical talent is beyond anything Iíve heard, and itís not only technical, obviously I had to try and listen to this without the video to see how I felt about just the music, and itís still a beautiful song. Iím not a guitar expert but the way he plays guitar is definitely interesting, gotta wonder how that even works. I donít have very much to say but it doesnít mean Iím not appreciating, I am appreciatinĎ alright.

9/10




Splent
Triumph Ė Magic Power:

Still not sure how I feel about classic rock, it differs a lot, and I think the closest something came to this song in my roulette was Journey in round 1. Overall, the first half of the song doesnít do a whole lot for me, it gets a lot better starting from 3 minutes though. Not a winning round 9 song by any means so far, but itís a good rocker!

Hmm, not really a grower, it was still a good song, but the singer skyrockets above everything else in the first half of the song, for me it mightíve aswell been a capella for the first 2-3 minutes, didnít care too much for anything else there. But yeah I already said this, but it does get way better near the end, I dig the guitars in the end especially, drums are energetic as hell too, bass I barely noticed in the last part of the song, and the moments I did hear it in the song I wasnít too fond of. So some parts I liked, some I disliked, I feel about the same way about it as I first did, maybe even a little less appealed though. 

7.5/10




Sacul
Igorr Ė Tout Petit Moineau:

Youíre damn right you took a risk, but why the hell not? The roulette is almost over, time for some whacky shit. So maybe as a song this can really weird people out, but I think this song particularly, and probably Igorrr in general, is looked at as a form of art more than anything. I donít see myself listening to this kind of stuff though, itís a tad bit overwhelming for someone who has just listened to it once. I doubt it will suddenly click with me too, I applaud you for your courage, but I donít think the over the top electronic elements and the all over the place singer will be a grower.

I definitely think itís a grower, the mix of electronic bits and her over-the-top voice actually blend pretty well. That said, I donít believe a few days is enough for something like this to click, itís.. too much, and thatís saying a lot, because I even liked the Destrage song, which is about as crazy as it gets, you really pushed it this round :biggrin:. Part of me liking this is because I miss Dour and this Igorrr show was done at the stage I basically could be found 24/7. So this did get better and I think you might be pleasantly surprised that your song is not getting a 5/10.

7/10




Mikemangioy

Rush Ė Headlong Flight:

Hmm, first impressions: Is this their newer stuff? I could never really get into most of their older stuff but I quite like this. The singer is IMO more tolerable here, and the music is more straightforward, so itís not that hard to follow whatís happening musically. It has that in-your-face rock edge to it that I really enjoy, along with some likable vocal melodies. Iím liking this.

This song still sticks out, I love the riffs and verses most, theyíre packed with energy, something I didnít expect from a band thatís been around for as long as Rush. I tend to like modern rock/metal more than the classics in general, with some exceptions of course, but Iím more drawn into this Rush than most of their classic works.

8/10




Tyrias

The National Ė Afraid of Everyone:

Iím not very familiar with Indie Rock, I listen to one or two bands that could be classified as Indie. On first listen Iím not getting a whole lot out of this, vocals are pretty good, I like the guitars. Drums, not so much, theyíre there, nothing especially interesting IMO. So overall itís ok, but I donít think this will be a round winner.

Sorry, this is one of your favorites, but Iím not on the same page, I would never go out of my way to listen to songs like this, so it probably has more to do with the genre in general (even with the bands from the genre that I listen to, Iím not too crazy about most of their songs) than with the song you chose. I still think it has okay parts, but itís not something Iíd keep on if it came up on shuffle.

6.5/10




LordCost
Vangough Ė Separation:

I have all the confidence in the world that you will manage to deliver another amazing track, youíve been doing phenomenal in a lot of the rounds, with a few oddballs. Liking the intro, pretty energetic metal stuff. The verse feels like itís just there, not too special, but the way it built up to the chorus is great, and the chorus itself is awesome, with epic backing vocals and just some good metal lead vocals. The overall style of pure agression in the middle of the song is perfectly executed, you can really feel the anger. Ending is just great aswell, keeps up the quality with one last blast. I got a good feeling about this song.

:metal intro, still digging it. Iíve pretty much covered everything I want to say about this song though, but what now stands out even more is the chorus, with the epic backing vocals. You seem to be nailing choruses in general, cause they always seem to be my favorite part of your songs, Rishloo, The Human Abstract, Jolly, now Vangough, off the top of my head those all had fantastic choruses. The only thing I want to add to my writeup is how the harmonic near-ending section is, makes the song even more epic than it was.

I hate seeing you out of the top 3, I think youíve won the most rounds out of anyone (if I count the epic round, which technically Parama won but it was so close I couldíve gone either way). Too bad your lows werenít consistent enough to keep up with the leaders, if you believe in wonders, round 10 could be the magic round to get you in those finals. Youíve already sent, so all you can do is wait and hope.

9.5/10




Parama
Intronaut Ė Killing Birds With Stones:

Apparently Intronaut are sludge metal, no idea what that is, I guess Iíll find out. First thoughts: I actually thought this band was full-on harsh vox, the clean verses are quite nice, but I was expecting heavy shit. That instrumental section starting at like 3 minutes in actually kinda bores me, itís going nowhere. The second half of the song is better, but I still am not very impressed by this song, maybe you were afraid to send me some of their heavier stuff and went for something more accessible instead? I did like the vocals, but the song overall hasnít really wowed me at any point. Maybe itís a grower.

Well itís not a grower, atleast not over the course of a few days with a couple of listens. I noticed that I said the exact same thing in round 8, but eight minutes seems well overdue. The ending is pretty epic, I gotta give you that, and for just that I think it might be the best part of the song, but it took like 6 minutes to lead up to that. I should also say that I was pretty hyped for this song after the first minute, an 8 minute piece with a pretty cool, kinda heavy intro, from a band that I was already pretty hyped for? Sure. But as soon as the pace slowed down and the vocals came in my the hype collapsed, and pretty much the rest of the song except for the ending I felt the same way. So overall, good beginning and ending, maybe I just donít like this particular song, but if this album is anything like the main style of this song I donít think Iím eager to check out this album, Iíll still browse through their new album though because Iíve heard good stuff about it.

7/10




Bolsters
Whitesnake Ė Crying in the Rain:

Donít know a lot of Whitesnake songs, but after my first listen of this song, I honestly thought they were way softer than this, like your average 80ís rock band, but this is just some juicy hardrock, even getting some metal vibes from it. Iím liking the husky vocals, very different from the other Whitesnake songs I heard. Guitar solo isnít doing much for me, but the rest of the guitarwork on this song is pretty strong.

Cool. All I can think of, cool. This song sounds so subtle, they go through all these short groovy guitar passages like itís nothing. One of those songs I would hear in the background and wouldnít think very much of, but paying attention to it thereís phenomenal stuff going on everywhere you look. Now the chorus, itís hella catchy, it reminds me of Toto Ė Hold the Line a bit, in a positive way. So overall this song has ĎgreatĎ labeled all over it, not a round-winner, but itís above average easily.

8.5/10




425

Bon Iver Ė Skinny Love:

Nope, never heard this song. I was a bit underwhelmed after the first minute, but it gets tons better after that. From what Iíve heard now, this song does the ďchill acousticď style youíre going for better than the last song, and that one was already pretty good. Musically this is a pretty simplistic song, but thatís alright, Iíve been into a lot of straightforward stuff for all my life. The vocals are powerful enough to make this not just another simple acoustic song. So far so good.

Still a great song, I get that this was a popular song around the release, itís got a very radio-like sound. With songs like these itís always kind of a risky move,  if Iím not too fond of the singer, youíve lost my interest on a huge part of the song, but with the approach youíre taking in the last two rounds, it was definitely not for naught. You know your chill acoustic songs, the last one was peaceful and dark at the same time, good fit to the theme without being too predictable, and this song is also very peaceful, but came off as a very bright song. The singer for sure did not ruin the experience here like I said could be a risk, the vocals are SO good, especially in the chorus. This is all just great stuff.

9/10




Evermind
Blind Guardian Ė Wheel of Time:

Gooíold power metal :metal sure why not? Youíve oddly managed to make it work a couple of times already. First thoughts: I was just hoping the vocals wouldnít be a total disaster, and they werenít, maybe I like power metal more than I thought I did. Also a big fan of eastern stuff in music, this song has loads of it. That quiet middle-section is beautiful, youíve got your shit together when it comes to long songs, this ties it up very nicely.  I wonít really be going into the story yet, I donít mind the cheese, because musically this song is awesome, and thatís what itís about for me at the moment. Having heard  your song, eliteís song and senecaís song now, the rest better have some juicy tracks to keep up with the leaderboards.

I could always just return to your submissions if Iím looking for some great epic tunes, itís incredible how wide Ďa variety of epic songs you have in store, with both different approaches of instrumentals, and very distinct singers. This singer in particular, definitely not my favorite after having listened to it more, but he fits to the music, and thatís what matters here. Still a huge fan of the little instrumental tidbits and passages, itís not only what makes this Blind Guardian song different from most power metal Iíve heard, it makes the music in general very unique.

8.5/10




Senecadawg2

Soilwork Ė The Ride Majestic:

Melodic death metal? Awesome, been looking for a good one anyway, maybe thisíll fill that hole. You mightíve noticed Gojira on my list, indeed a lot of harsh vocal songs have scored high, but they are a bit risky sometimes, this is a style of growling that I find easier to tolerate however, itís that kind of growling thatís kind of a blen between screaming and just singing very loudly (if itís not clear what I mean by that, Gojira and Machine Head both have the style I;m talking about).
But yea on to the song, on first listen, Iím pretty damn impressed at how well this song transitions from the almost-relaxing guitarwork into the melodeath-style verses, over and over. I quite like the chorus and itís pretty catchy, not my favorite part of the song though, Iím more into the verses and these short calm guitar passages. Will he secure a top 3 spot? Will he even push for the top spot?
Yo Train, no more fucking around.
Find out, in 1 or 2 days.

Dude this is amazing, I was already pretty pleased, but on top of that, this was probably the biggest grower of the round. Too bad for you LordCost is amazing and wins the round by a hair yet again. I definitely want more of this, starting with TRM seems like the logical thing to do. Almost everything I said with my first thoughts remains the same, I love the heavy verses, the calm parts, and most of all, the chorus, which was a huge grower, very powerful stuff.

9.5/10




Elite
Epysode Ė Obsessions:

Is this really what thrash metal sounds like now? I guess I have no idea what thrash is anymore, but what the hell, whatever genre, this is a great song! The guitars during the verses are mind-boggling, it adds so much power to the vocals. Overall I like how this song gets straight down to business, it has the progressive edge, but no unnecessary instrumental sections, all business. Which gives the song plenty of time to get everything done in just 4 minutes, they do squeeze in a guitar solo, an amazing one at that, but that aside, itís pretty straightforward.

Still feel the same about this song, my favorite parts about it are the verses (so powah) and the guitar solo near the end. The chorus is alright, but I donít feel the same way you do about how its catchiness. For this type of song, Iím glad you chose a 4 minute one, cuz if they did stray away from the standard structure too much Iím pretty sure it would take away from the song. So, still a great song, not a grower for me, but the impression it made on me remains.

8.5/10





Just reposting the last round theme to make sure none of you missed it:
Round 10: This is the End
It's been a great experience guys, and every single one of you has at least gotten me to really like a song so much that I want to check out the album. Sadly, 9 of you have to leave, and it's coming down to this round. Send me your closing songs! Great album closers, or songs that could close an album very well, whatever works for you.




So now that's all said and done, let's look at the standings one last time before we start the last round:

Current Standings:

Elite: 70.5 + 8.5 = 79
senecadawg2: 69.5 + 9.5 = 79
Evermind: 70 + 8.5 = 78.5
425: 67.5 + 9 = 76.5
Bolsters: 66.5 + 8.5 = 75
Parama: 67.5 + 7 = 74.5
LordCost: 64.5 + 9.5 = 74
Tyrias: 67.5 + 6.5 = 74
mikemangioy: 66 + 8 = 74
Sacul: 66.5 + 7 = 73.5
splent: 63 + 7.5 = 70.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 61.5 + 9 = 70.5


Out of the three people who were tied behind the top 3, 425 takes the lead and is still very much in the race for the finals. I'd say Bolsters and maybe Parama, LordCost, Tyrias and Mike have a chance, but seeing how consistent the top 3 have been it would take a miracle. Which brings me to the next topic:




The final round!!

So our finalists are still yet to be decided, but in advance, let me give you a heads-up of whatís going to happen. Of course like all the other final rounds, 3 of you will be sending me a piece you formed consisting of multiple songs from different artists, but it's not exactly 3 totally separate EP's I'll receive. These pieces you'll be sending will form one big listening piece for me which will be listened to in full (more about this in the last part of the post). Thereís no set amount of songs you have to live up to, but of course there's a time limit. Keep in mind I will be grading your piece as follows:


Now for the length, Iím thinking of 20 minutes minimum, 30 max.
Weíll get to that later on, hereís the catch regarding the #1 advantage: Scores will not reset, so the advantage #1 has built up compared to #2 and 3 remains (this doesn't look like it's gonna be a huge game changer according to current standings though). On top of that, I will be listening to the three EPís in one run everytime Iíll make time for a listening run, in the same order, kinda like one big piece of 60-90 minutes (depending on your EP lengths).
What weíll be doing is, before you send me the songs, I will let #1 decide if he wants his EP to be my 'album opener', the middle one, or the 'album closer'. This will all be before you send the songs, so you can still adapt to the position your EP will be in. Maybe the #1 contestant has a collection of epic tension-building songs and an amazing closer prepared, maybe he wants me to listen to his EP first because he thinks these songs can make a great first impression on me, itís up to whoever claims the #1 spot. (of course tactical cockblocking is also a great strategy) I think itís self explanatory that the #2 will then continue to choose one out of the last remaining choices, and the #3 is left with the other.
Overall, not a big twist, but I think giving the person who has won the original 10 rounds should be given the edge, albeit ever so slightly.

PFAQ (Potential Frequently Asked Questions):

Will the #2 and #3 also suffer from not fitting to a particular style that the #1 chose to send? No, the only advantage he gets from this is having the opportunity to pick the opener/middle/closer, scores won't be affected by a change of musical style between the pieces.

Train dude tell us what the maximum score will be and how many bonus points can be awarded at max for overall flow? Give me an hour or so.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 12, 2016, 08:53:46 AM
Sweet. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much! It really is a grower.

Also thrilled to have such a good shot at the top spot now. I'll be thinking on the final submission throughout the day and hopefully get a chance to send tonight
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Tyrias on January 12, 2016, 09:04:27 AM
you know, the really annoying thing is that I decided between Afraid Of Everyone and Skinny Love, than settled on the former. See how that worked out.

And well, since I really don't have a chance of making the final anymore, I'll just try to come up with the weirdest shit possible for the last round ::).
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 12, 2016, 09:21:28 AM
heck yeah

also i feel like you were expecting something different and that biased your judging but w/e  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 12, 2016, 09:27:12 AM
Nah I especially avoided that, but for an 8 minute song of which I only liked the first minute and last two minutes (liked, not loved), with an instrumental section that kinda bored I thought a 7 would be appropriate.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on January 12, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Well, damn. I'll be honest, I hoped for more than 8.5 with that song. At least you could give me a 9 so I would've been tied at the top spot!

Anyway, I think the only one who can push me out of Top 3 is 425, and I'm still two points ahead of him... I just need to send a song that doesn't suck. Let me think about it.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: LordCost on January 12, 2016, 09:53:27 AM
Good news for you is that there are many equally great songs in the Between The Madness album for me, but if you ask Parama he won't tell you the same😅
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Cyril on January 12, 2016, 09:54:09 AM
i listened to Between the Madness and the last track was the worst iirc  :lol
at the very least, worst lyrically. i remember quite liking most of the rest of the album. only listened to it once though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 12, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
sent
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: 425 on January 12, 2016, 12:27:10 PM
Awesome, glad you liked it so much! And sorry, Tyrias! :lol

So now I'm two points out... Gonna take a couple of hours to think about this.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: mikemangioy on January 12, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
Absolutely agree about Rush. The classics are godlike for me, but Clockwork Angels... is just... I don't know, I friggin' love it.

We'll see about the closer here.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 12, 2016, 10:24:08 PM
Sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 13, 2016, 02:48:10 AM
OK, I have 7 of the songs now, 5 left.

Hoping to end the 10th round by the end of the week so I want the songs either today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Evermind on January 13, 2016, 08:44:38 AM
I'll send today in an hour or two, just deciding between a few songs.

I wish you liked ballads more. I've got a lot of great ballads but seeing how that fared in the previous rounds for the participants I'm a bit afraid to send them. Maybe I'll include one or two in my EP if I get to the Finals.

Edit: sent!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Sacul on January 13, 2016, 11:07:09 AM
Sent some stoner  :metal
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - RD 9 RESULTS/10 OPEN
Post by: Train of Naught on January 13, 2016, 12:47:09 PM
:hat :metal?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 DEADLINE 14/1
Post by: mikemangioy on January 13, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Sent some depressing noisy grunge track.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 15, 2016, 10:52:00 AM
I'm through my first listen now, this thing is actually coming to an end now, wow! I'm doing another two rounds of listening tomorrow and will put the final touches on my writeups during the last one on Sunday.

I don't want to spoil anything this round, gonna avoid giving away anything about what the final standings will look like. Just a big thank you again for participating, this has been a lot of fun, and I'll see three of you in the final face-off! Cheers
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 15, 2016, 10:58:32 AM
this has been a lot of fun
:jamaritard:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 15, 2016, 11:15:30 AM
this has been a lot of fun
:jamaritard:

I was staring at my screen for atleast 2 minutes figuring out what the fuck you meant, finally got it..
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 DEADLINE 14/1
Post by: Cyril on January 15, 2016, 11:19:05 AM
i probably deserve to be docked a few points just for that but it doesn't matter anyways
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: 425 on January 15, 2016, 11:24:37 AM
I wonder what artist Parama sent??? :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 15, 2016, 11:31:17 AM
take your time, you may just find out
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 15, 2016, 11:32:29 AM
It's that Dream Theatre song right?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 16, 2016, 08:20:15 AM
:neverusethis:

Didn't mean to actually post that just yet, save the thoughts for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 16, 2016, 08:25:20 AM
you just told one of the top three that you didn't like their round 10 entry that much  :lol

you also told me that I got a 10  :corn
i was born to win specifically this tiebreaker because i have like 2 9.5's and a 10 tho so hopefully, hopefully
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 16, 2016, 09:25:20 AM
I know the post is removed but I never suggested anything about you getting a 10
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 16, 2016, 09:48:06 AM
If there's one of the songs ToN didn't like from the top three, it's most likely mine. But hey, I regret nothing, it's an awesome song and all.

Good luck to the finalists.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 16, 2016, 10:16:53 AM
I thought I had posted this already, this is only important if you are going to proceed to the finals, so if you want to wait until results that's fine.

The final round!!

So our finalists are still yet to be decided, but in advance, let me give you a heads-up of whatís going to happen. Of course like most of the final rounds, 3 of you will be sending me a piece you formed consisting of multiple songs from different artists, thereís no set amount of songs you have to live up to, but keep in mind I will be grading your EP as follows:


Now for the length, Iím thinking of 20 minutes minimum, 30 max. Weíll get to that later on, hereís the catch regarding the #1 advantage: Scores will not reset, so the advantage #1 has built up compared to #2 and 3 remains. On top of that, I will be listening to the three EPís in one run everytime Iíll make time for a listening run, in the same order, kinda like one big piece of 60-90 minutes (depending on your EP lengths). What weíll be doing is, before you send me the songs, I will let #1 decide if he wants his EP to be the opener during the runs, the middle one, or the closer. This will all be before you send the songs, so you can still adapt to the position your EP will be in. Maybe the #1 contestant has a collection of epic tension-building songs and an amazing closer prepared, maybe he wants me to listen to his EP first because he thinks these songs can make a great first impression on me, itís up to whoever claims the #1 spot. (of course tactical cockblocking is also a great strategy) I think itís self explanatory that the #2 will then continue to choose one out of the last remaining choices, and the #3 is left with the other.
Overall, not a big twist, but I think giving the person who has won the original 10 rounds should be given the edge, albeit ever so slightly.

Any questions or uncertainties? PM or reply here.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 16, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
I'm uncertain if I did make it to the Finals or not. Help me out? :biggrin:

If the results won't be posted tomorrow (Sunday) morning - which, for me, is in ~16 hours more or less, and if I'm actually going to make the Finals, I may take three or four working days to compose my EP. Just giving you a heads-up.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2016, 10:48:20 AM
Damn, Nellie is in line to take down back-to-back wins, and be the first to double digits.

C'mon Rich/Ruslan... block him!   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 16, 2016, 11:00:49 AM
I intend to do this, Chad, I really do... I just need to make the Finals first and then worry about it. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Cyril on January 16, 2016, 12:03:21 PM
I know the post is removed but I never suggested anything about you getting a 10
that part was, as you say, a joke  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 16, 2016, 01:01:39 PM
Damn, Nellie is in line to take down back-to-back wins, and be the first to double digits.

C'mon Rich/Ruslan... block him!   :biggrin:

It's definitely possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Me winning back to back, that is.

FlyingBizkit's roulette, on the other hand, is certainly lining up well for me.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: jingle.boy on January 16, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
Damn, Nellie is in line to take down back-to-back wins, and be the first to double digits.

C'mon Rich/Ruslan... block him!   :biggrin:

It's definitely possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Me winning back to back, that is.

FlyingBizkit's roulette, on the other hand, is certainly lining up well for me.

I hadn't been following that one too well.  Possible triple play, eh?  Nice.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Evermind on January 16, 2016, 01:22:34 PM
If I'm in the Finals, I'll try to do everything to make this triple play impossible.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: splent on January 16, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
Damn, Nellie is in line to take down back-to-back wins, and be the first to double digits.

C'mon Rich/Ruslan... block him!   :biggrin:

It's definitely possible, but I wouldn't hold your breath. Me winning back to back, that is.

FlyingBizkit's roulette, on the other hand, is certainly lining up well for me.

I had you sweating though. I hope there's a rematch in our future.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - ROUND 10 LISTENING
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 04:49:36 AM
Results will be up in about an hour, start biting some nails lads, it's a tight race.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - SOOOON
Post by: Evermind on January 17, 2016, 05:03:40 AM
My body is ready.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 05:56:44 AM
Round 10 results!!
Going from 12th to 1st.. Things got reaaally close towards the top of the board though, I exceeded the character limit, so the final results/standings will be in the next post.




12th place!

Splent
Gentle Giant Ė River:

First impressions: Doesnít sound as much as a closer as some of the other songs on here, but works very well for what it is. Itís actually a very fun groovy song, which was the main reason I liked some of your best submissions in this roulette, like Roundabout and SOYCD. The singer feels like a classic prog rock version of Ray Alder, pretty neat. Quite liking this so far.

Itís still a good song, the fact that youíre hooking me up to stuff from the 70ís alone should be taken into account already, too bad this ainít a contest of risktaking though. I stand by my first impression descriptions, just a very fun song with groovy elements mostly in the guitar solo. Iím not too fond of the singer in the very beginning but it got better over the course of the song. ĎSolidĎ is all I can add to my thoughts. A very solid and enjoyable song, I get the feeling that it totally slipped your mind that this was a closing themed round though. Iím not going to bother with it though, since it wonít make a huge difference on the final results.

If I had been around this community for a bit longer it may or may not have affected your submissions, probably not, because you seem to just send some of your all-time favorite songs, I always encourage that, and have done it sometimes too. As long as you had fun doing so itís fine, after all you got me to like a Queen song other than Bohemian Rhapsody, as well as a Yes song, SOYCD which I would probably check out some day either way, and this song was pretty neat too. You almost winning Tomís roulette and almost ending up last place in my roulette probably says more about the difference between our music than it does about your music in general, it was fun to have a classic rocker in almost every round, regardless of the scores I gave them.


8/10




11th place!

Shadow Ninja 2.0

The Dillinger Escape Plan Ė Parasitic Twins:

First impressions: Okay I kinda asked for this. To be fair though, when I say I canít get into the singer of TDEP, you should know I mean the harsh vocals, this song, whatever the score, will not disprove my point. Alright, the song has all kinda of cool stuff going on in the background, interesting percussion bits, clichť horror-movie bells, the chilling opening makes for a great amount of suspense, interesting song so far..
So the first one and a half minute were very interesting, the core of the song didnít really add much to that but it was consistent, but the ending is pretty awesome, they manage to mix a dark sound with groovy guitars which somehow sounds pretty good.

Now that Iíve heard it a couple more times, I realize that the creepy atmosphere in the beginning reminds me of the Korn debut album. But yeah I still like this song, my opinion about the middle section has changed though, beginning to like that more, so itís pretty consistent. Ending is magnificent, and in the end thatís what the song for round 10 should be all about, will it be enough to save you from last place? MAYBE!

From the very first song you sent me I was worried that there wouldnít be anything at all from you to keep my interest, I could not stand those Tom Waits vocals. The Tallest Man on Earth almost had me confirm that statement, but soon enough it got way better, and youíve slipped in some amazing songs, also being one of the four people to get a 10/10 (which Iím sure you still canít believe). I know when I participated in your roulette it was my very first time, and being #1 after the first two rounds I thought I did something wrong or something, it seemed too easy. So I started doing the worst thing possible and send some basic stuff of which mostly I donít even listened to myself (Darkness Within is an exception, that song is amazing). But Iím glad I had someone with the mindset of ďHey, just found out about this song and I think itís pretty neat, what do you think of it?ď. I think my run in your roulette was too uninspired, but I learned from that, and I strongly believe that if youíll ever do one again I can come up with some better stuff.


8.5/10




10th place!

mikemangioy
Nirvana Ė All Apologies:

First impressions: I find it quite odd that I never heard this song, Iíve heard a fair amount of Nirvana songs from Nevermind and In Utero but this doesnít sound familiar. Never been a huge fan of Kurtís vocals to be honest, I liked him on Heart-Shaped Box and Lithium but thatís about it. And this song I feel doesnít qualify for that category. Frankly, Iím a bit annoyed by the overly distorted guitars as well, so itís not just Kurt. I will not harm your Grohl fandom though, because the drumming is still tight as hell. Donít think Iíll be enjoying this song as a whole though.

I hear Foo Fighters songs all the time when my friends listen to them, but never Nirvana, can definitely hear some simi-larities though, for obvious reasons. Iím not going to talk around it, Iím not fond of this song, like I said, not a huge fan of Kurtís vocals, he has a very unique touch to his singing voice that simply isnít for everyone. Simple instrumentation can definitely work, but this is the kind that does not stick with me. Tough luck, not my cup of tea.

Well, apart from the Italian song in the first round, there wasnít really any obscure stuff coming from you I donít think, but what youíve gotten me to do is open my eyes for bands like Rush, who apparently have an album with a song I did quiet like, that also sounded like they didnít stick to their old sound, Clockwork Angels. An Ayreon song from an album I wonít try to type out showed me that The Human Equation shouldnít be my only album by Arjen to check out. Colors could be forgiven for the bad first impression it had on me, because Veridian/White Walls kicked ass. The Twelve Foot Ninja song, though being amazing, I feel was a fluke, I donít think I will like the album as much, but I will give it a chance. So yea there was a lot of  cool stuff that has been added to my list. Sign up for that v2 right now!


6.5/10




9th place!

Sacul
Kyuss Ė Odyssey:

Stoner metal? Iíve heard one Kyuss song before on the Guitar Hero Metardica I believe, and it fucing sucked, hope this one is better (that song was called The Demon Cleaner I think). This song is definitely a little more upbeat, which I like, because that other song was so depressing, and in a way that plain bored me. This is the kind of distorted guitar that I can kinda dig, but I would probably not be able to stand an entire album of this music. Judging this song, I think itíll work out fine, energetic and likable vocals, cool guitar riffs, very loudly mixed bass, groovy as fuck instrumental section, yeah this oneís cool.

I still fucking hate Demon Cleaner and I donít get how a band that puts out a song like that can make something this ĎcoolĎ. Cool is definitely the word to describe this song. Iíve gotten more used to the distortion, and itís definitely not as distracting as with the Nirvana song. Yeah this one was a grower, I already kinda liked it but now I really like it to the point where I might return to this album.

Kicking off I was sure I was going to get DMM, but overall Iíve gotten some very unexpected songs from you that I did enjoy in the end, you were definitely one of the bigger risktakers, a lot of different genres included, even though you seem to return to prog quite often (thatís not a crime, everyone did it at atleast some point(except maybe Shadow)). I think the Ulver song was the breaking point, from there on it seemed like the only way you could get back into the top was with big risks, it didnít particularly work out, but for what itís worth I thought the Igorrr song was enjoyable even though I didnít really like the song. Odyssey had its moments and I might even return to this artist at some point.


8.5/10




8th place!

Bolsters
Circle of Illusion Ė Nightmare:

First impressions: A 16 minute symphonic rock/metal piece, I donít have a whole lot of symphonic music, but it tends to do well for me so far. About 5 minutes in and I feel this song is taking the term ďtheatricalĒ to a level that I canít yet handle, like with a lot of the avant-garde metal stuff.  The instrumental sections are kinda intriguing but the entire thing is a LOT to take in, more than anything Iíve received in round 6 (epics round), so, after my standard routine of 4 listens I might be able to shed some more light on this.

I can handle stuff like A.C.T, in fact, I really enjoy them, but this is so much to take in, Iíve heard it 3 times now and will listen to it one more time after this, but itís still very hard to get into. The song has some cool parts tht I can appre-ciate, like some of the guitars, dramatic keyboards in the background, a slim amount of the vocals, but in my head they donít connect, I hear various cool parts spread across a 16 minute song, filled up with lots of stuff I canít digest. I must say that this all sounds more negative than it is though, because itís all wrapped up in a very cool epic ending, which kinda reminds me of Octavarium.

From someone who sent me Journey in the very first round, the prejudice of you being a classic rock dude had to be made. However, it got followed up by the craziest things. Metal with electronic/dubstep/DnB influences, a Final Fanta-sy soundtrack cover, the fascinating craziness of rock legend Meat Loaf, a 26-minute piece of prog-rock, whatever you get the point. I like how you started out saying that you had no idea what you were getting yourself into, a roulette with themes which you hadnít done before, on top of which my musical tastes were completely unknown of. I like that attitude, just going for it and sending some great tunes.


8/10




7th place!

LordCost
Celesty Ė Legacy of Hate Pt. 3:

First impressions: Okay, wasnít really into the female vocals in the beginning, I thought I was in for a really boring 14 minute piece, and I personally didnít get the resemblance of this singer and Brent Smith, but as soon as the pace changed it got way, way better. Some amazingly energetic symphonic/power metal. I donít think this song could beat your second-most epic song, because thatís pretty much my favorite song of the roulette (after Meteorites and maaybe Forget Not), but this is some very solid epic power metal.

Itís a shame that beginning doesnít appeal to me as much, but from like 5 minutes towards the end itís all amazing, some very DT Systematic Chaos-ish stuff in the instrumental section around 7 minutes in that gets me every time. This song overall has that theatrical vibe that Bolstersí song has as well, but this band doesnít over-do it, it comes in doses that I can comprehend/get used to in a considerable amount of time. The death growls at 10 minutes were a little bit uncalled for IMO but I still very much enjoy this song.

You may not have won this, but I think we both know you and I have some very similar tastes, and it showed. Excellent score after excellent score, the only thing that kept you from entering the finals were one or two songs you were aware of yourself were risky things (I think, atleast you said that about Oceansize, Unexpect mightíve been self-explanatory). 


9/10




6th place!

Tyrias
Amplifier Ė Airborne:

First impressions: Getting a really eerie vibe from that intro, which may or may not be good depending on how the song turns out to be. This music is a very typical choice for an epic closer, thatís definitely not a bad thing though, it carries a great atmosphere, it has tearing guitar riffs near the end that still live up to the term Ďepicí, and the vocals are very soothing for the music, I canít see anything beating this song at this point, weíll see.

Seems like I got it right the first time around, I wasnít too vocal about my opinion there though. This song is amazing, just like the dredg song you sent me, it has this great atmosphere that pretty much defines the song. That crushing musical breakdown is just outright epic, all sorts of epic. Definitely a contender for #1 of the round, itís hella close though.

I had been lurking the forums a bit and had been around a couple months already before starting the roulette, but I never saw you before, you donít post as much. From what I understand, 2 and a half month and 10 songs later, youíre a fairly young fellow with a very wide variety of songs, including some plain fun electro-swing, Russian turbo-polka, a live-recorded version of a MrSuicideSheep song, and tons more. ĎT was definitely something else, thatís for sure.


9.5/10




5th place!

Parama
.fun Ė Take Your Time

First impressions: I honestly had my expectations set to 0, you came off as if you didnít have hope in your song anymore. This is great though, because that mindset apparently made you stray away from the dark stuff, and send me this super fun song. It has the pop-like vocals that the Thank You Scientist song you sent also had elements of. What I like most of all is you seem to have everything planned out a bit, and prog is mostly (not only for you but for everyone) the thing people tend to fall back on if they have nothing extra-ordinarily special to send, here you are like ďwhatever letís just send a cool pop-rock songď and itís amazing. Some catchy melodies, fun instrumentals, and a good fade-out.

God this song is so joyful! Iím still liking this a lot. Donít know if it will be a round winner but itís definitely way better than your last two songs, glad you took this uplifting turn for the last round. I think all I wanted to say about this has been said in the first paragraph, so, thatís it, ended it with a bang for sure!

Throughout the roulette I was a bit undecided about most of your songs, most were middle-of-the-pack without any real standouts. Then suddenly you got the best two-round run with Forget Not and My Famed Disappearing Act. Round 8 and 9 cost you the cup, but you still delivered some kickass songs that Iíll be checking out albums of.


9/10




???

Elite
Lesoir Ė Battle:

First impressions: Everything about this song suggests that I should like it, the style, the metal, but thatís only to a certain extent. It has some memorable vocal melodies, but the memorable parts are not necessarily memorable for good reasons, the ĄI used toď in the  chorus annoys me a bit. Instrumentals are on par, but while the vocals are kind of soothing, they keep me from thinking more than āaverageĎ of this song.

Definitely not the most fitting song to a closing theme, you mightíve forgotten about it or something. But it wouldnít change much anyways, I think parts of this song are very good, in the sense that they are powerful and energetic. However, as a whole I donít enjoy this song and would probably not return to it. Why? The chorus still annoys me a fair bit, while the vocals in the more quiet parts do appeal to me. In the end it doesnít balance out eachother in the best way possible, this is probably my least favorite song from you so far.

Starting round 2, I think you never left the #1 spot in this entire roulette, the consistency throughout the entire thing was pretty impressive. Also got me some quality songs, like the Navarone song, whose name I was already slightly familiar with, the Transatlantic epic, Forced Entry, that Mantiis album is also something Iím eager to explore, and of course Ben Folds Five. I liked the length of your writeups in the PMs, it doesnít really affect the score directly, but you describe the song without writing an entire fucking essay like some do :lol. After the first two rounds I was sure you would keep performing well and you did, this final round made the top 4 participants closer than ever though, so unless you already checked the results, now is the time to scroll down and see for yourself..


7/10




???

425
Bruce Dickinson Ė Arc of Space:

Alright, will this 4 minute song by Bruce Dickinson be the song that will wow me enough to get you into the finals? Letís see.
First impressions: Onto a great start, I have actually never heard his solo work, but basically, this is what had first drawn me to Iron Maiden in the first place, that magnificent voice. I did not know he created such beautiful music! Soaring guitar solo, crushingly strong vocal deliverance in the chorus, has a great touch of closure to it. Iím through my first listen, but I already know I want more of Bruceís solo project.

This is fucking beautiful man.. I fail to understand why I never bothered with Bruceís solo work, I didnít know he could create and sing such beautiful ballads. Three listens in and I already kinda want to make this song my soundtrack, one hell of an emotive song. Yeah my final verdict: This song seems flawless.. itís one of the most beautiful songs Iíve ever heard, Iím not just saying that. I would never be able to forgive myself if I didnít give this the full 10/10, holy shit.

Regardless of if youíre making the finals right here, you were one consistent candidate. Not only that, you were also the only person to score a 10/10 outside of the epic round. On top of that, probably the best average score of the last two rounds (this being after you said you were running out of artists :lol). I was always kinda uncertain of what to epect from your songs, going from power metal, to prog metal, to pop, it wasnít the most diverse bunch of songs, but the difference between the different styles were huge (if that makes sense). This #3/#4 race is going to be close as hell, but you definitely have a chance, which means you would quickly need some new artists. (Who am I kidding you probably already skipped to the results before reading this) 


10/10
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - SOOOON
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 05:57:18 AM
???

Senecadawg2
Kauan - ńidin Laulu:

First impressions: Dang, talk about soaring soundscapes. I dig the intro, a lot. Absolutely love the piano throughout the song, it returns fairly often and nicely fits to the theme. The harsh vocals here are a bit much and a lot to take in, but other harsh vocal songs Iíve grown to like, so maybe I could see past that after 3 or 4 listens. I donít know what this ďdoomĒ genre is, but it probably has to do with the harsh vox, I donít think Iíll be looking too much into that. The clean Russian vocals are good, but nothing Iíd come back for. So letís see if these vocals that Iím apparently not digging so much will remain a burden.

The intro is still peaceful as ever, yeah Iím on the same page regarding the ďbeautifulĒ atmosphere, that piano melody never fades away. What a shame that I still donít like those vocals following it up, I just donít Ďgetí the vocals, in the beginning they feel misplaced. Later on they do a better job of it, fair enough, and Iím pretty sure I like the second half of the song better for that.
All in all the second half of the song became a tad better, but if after four listens Iím still undecided then at some point I just have to cut to the chase, I embrace the beautiful part of this song, but I canít get into the vibe the same way people that listen to this music do.

I found it kinda hilarious how the round 1 top three were in the exact same order as Paramaís roulette final, thought maybe it was a fluke and you would do worse over the course of the roulette, but after a Ďmehí round 2 you kept getting them 9ís IIRC, very consistent stuff, and mostly with the singer-songwriter stuff that I typically donít listen to, so thatís pretty awesome. I got kinda terrified by your first heavy song just because of the thought that the David Gray/Glen Hansard guy sent me a fucking Enslaved song. Apparently when you go heavy youíre all business, no sloppy inbetweeners. Itís been showing for the rest of the roulette, though this last song had less of an impact on me, it was still good.


7.5/10




1st place!!

Evermind
Absolute Priority Ė Fear of the Night:

First impressions: Well, as for dark themed songs, you could pretty much have picked any of your songs and it would probably have sufficed, with one or two exceptions (and the uplifting round ofc). So as a wrap-up aftermath kinda thingy Iíll go ahead and say my favorite dark song of yours was Lonesome Clown, that song really gets you thinking.
I think Iíve already declared my love for the big introís that pretty much all these power metal songs seem to have, I canít stress how much I like that. The vocals are quite nice in the first verse, not as much a fan of the singer later on but heís still on par. Like I mentioned in other writeups, I like when they fade-out with a song when itís the best solution, and thatís the case here, sometimes it can ruin the song though. I wouldnít call the conclusion of the song mind blowing myself, but I can conclude that this song is a result of just really great power metal craftmanship.

Confined between the boundaries of my limited ability of creative writing, I couldnít have summarized my thoughts better than I did in the first part of my writeup. That is, if I were to do it again based on first impressions, Iíve come to like some parts a lot more than I did before though. The keyboard connecting the first chorus between the suspenseful second verse, the second verse itself, the chorus, everything is packed with epicness, and I canít stop to think during the song that this would make one hell of a closer on any other album. You talked about the song cutting off during the fade-out like itís a bad thing out of the context of the album, but I love it. If a song ends on such an epic note, I really donít mind it fading out. This song ends at the #1 part, and so do you, 10 rounds and 2 and a half months later, I hereby congratulate you for finishing in first place! You know whatís gonna happen already, so I wish you good luck with picking out the right songs. 

So, you might not have been the modern rock/metal guy I need to fill up my music library, but Iím sure you have tons of great music, and I have all the trust that whatever genre it is (power metal proven to be your most consistent), itís gonna be good. Not too big on the Mark Knopfler song, but if I recall correctly, that was the only sub 8/10 song youíve sent. Iím not gonna both too long with this, youíre not done for yet, so Iíll cya in the finals.


9/10




425 pretty much needed that 10/10 to have a chance to get into the finals (in hindsight, a 9.5 would also have given him the edge in the tiebreaker), and I find it sad that Rich, who basically has been leading the whole roulette (not by a huge margin though) now loses his final spot, but in the end itís just a matter of adding up the scores. 425 was not as consistent, but getting two perfect scores, not even in the epic round, is just phenomenal. I shouldnít have to explain myself, but I did not like seeing Rich go out like this. I gave the Bruce Dickinson and Lesoir songs tons of spins to be entirely sure of my scores, more than normally, and these are the definite results.

Also, Bruce Dickinson might be seen as cheating but I honestly never heard any of his work, and without this song I probably would never have. To quote Chad: ďWin if you can; lose if you must; but always cheat.ď





Evermind: 78.5 + 9 = 87.5
425: 76.5 + 10 = 86.5
senecadawg2: 79 + 7.5 = 86.5
Elite: 79 + 7 = 86
Tyrias: 74 + 9.5 = 83.5
Parama: 74.5 + 9 = 83.5
Bolsters: 75 + 8 = 83
LordCost: 74 + 9 = 83
Sacul: 73.5 + 8.5 = 82
mikemangioy: 74 + 6.5 = 80.5
Shadow Ninja 2.0: 70.5 + 9 = 79.5
splent: 70.5 + 8 = 78.5


Evermind, 425 and Seneca will be heading to the finals, Evermind was already aware of this, sent him a PM so he could have some time deciding what position he wanted to be for the final round, he told me heíll decide today, as soon as I have an answer Iíll ask the #2 (which is 425, has the edge in a tiebreaker against Seneca) his choice, and naturally, #3 is left with the remaining option. If you donít know what this hassle is about, read the original post (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44884.msg2075208#msg2075208) about the final round.

Scores in the final round will be graded out of 30. 20/30 points will be awarded according to the average quality of your individual songs, 10/30 bonus points will be awarded if your āEP/pieceĎ has perfect flow/overall quality of the piece itself, etc..


Thank you all for participating!! And to the finalists, Iíd say I give you about a week to get this done, choose wisely, and most of all, wow me!
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Tyrias on January 17, 2016, 06:12:41 AM
Glad you liked it so much! Even though it's the second song on the album, it definitely has that epic closer feeling, especially the riffing in the last few minutes. I enjoyed playing in this and I hope I could introduce you to some new bands! Thanks for hosting this, and congrats to the top three. I'll follow the final round to see who wins this.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Bolsters on January 17, 2016, 06:50:49 AM
83/100 is success as far as I'm concerned, can't complain about that and I know at least some of the stuff I sent will be checked out and enjoyed by you. Very glad to have been a part of this roulette, thanks for having me! :tup

Edit: Congrats to the finalists aswell...I'll be watching this one. :corn
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: mikemangioy on January 17, 2016, 07:03:34 AM
Fun roulette! I've already signed up but didn't remember doing it  :lol
Anyways, I'm glad I could help you to give a chance to lots of stuff  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 17, 2016, 08:57:27 AM
Oh hell yeah.

I've composed two excellent EPs as of now, one is a full-blown progressive metal one, one is more on progressive rock and ballads-filled side... just need to choose one. I'm going to listen to both for a day or two and will send the one I like more Tuesday evening at the latest.

Oh, and regarding my EP placement pick... I don't want to depend on anyone, so naturally I'm picking the opening EP. Since I'm at #1, the other participants should tune their EPs for mine, not the other way around.

However, I'm going to help the person who will pick the middle spot. I pretty much know what my final song will be, so if you want to know which song will be a closer on my EP so you can reasonably pick the song for yours to keep up with the flow, hit me up with a PM and I'll tell you which song will be the last one on my EP.

I'm not going to do it for free though. In exchange, you have to tell me what is the first song on your EP when you make a decision. I think it's a fair deal.

Good luck to 425 and Seneca, and hopefully you'll suck so I win this one. :biggrin:

Edit: oh, also:

Quote
but you describe the song without writing an entire fucking essay like some do

I'm guilty of that.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Cyril on January 17, 2016, 09:29:17 AM
i got you to like some music at least, i guess  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 09:37:05 AM
@ Evermind, I've allowed this, already gave 425 the heads-up, keep in mind I won't be nitpicking on flow inbetween EP's too much, because you simply can't guess on what song someone is going to close/open their EP. If I did take into account the flow between EP's I wouldn't allow it but yeah.


Everyone is a winner Parama!  :heart I received a total of 120 songs (more if you count the combined stuff like Mantiis and The Apologist), and there's like 30-40 albums in the top tier of my list, and some more stuff that I'll probably check out some day.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 17, 2016, 09:40:55 AM
@ Evermind, I've allowed this, already gave 425 the heads-up, keep in mind I won't be nitpicking on flow inbetween EP's too much, because you simply can't guess on what song someone is going to close/open their EP. If I did take into account the flow between EP's I wouldn't allow it but yeah.

Well, while it's still a tight competition and all that, I think we've got to put our best effort into wowing you in this round. After all, that's what these roulettes are all about. And, well, since you're going to listen to all three EPs back to back... see, I thought I'll put some effort to make your listening as flawless as it can be, telling the player next to me about my song so he could make the transition as seamless as he can.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 09:43:36 AM
If seneca and 425 can agree with that it'd be very cool  :metal though I can imagine they don't want to be limited because they have to make their first song connect as well as possible to the last one. If you guys want to agree on this I'm totally cool with it. Only better for me  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 17, 2016, 10:25:18 AM
If seneca and 425 can agree with that it'd be very cool  :metal though I can imagine they don't want to be limited because they have to make their first song connect as well as possible to the last one. If you guys want to agree on this I'm totally cool with it. Only better for me  :biggrin:

Well, I was seriously considering the scenario where I would've been the last one / the second one out of three participants, and I was going to ask people which song will end their EP to make mine flow perfectly. Now that I don't have to do it, I thought I'll offer the same possibility to the rest of the finalists.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Sacul on January 17, 2016, 12:25:18 PM
I was about to send Demon Cleaner  :rollin

But yeah, that band and album are a bit of an acquired taste, and its full of amazing riffs and cool grooves.

Well, this was fun! Thanks for hosting this  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 17, 2016, 01:37:41 PM
If I'm last (don't know if I misunderstood that correctly or not) and if 425 does want to tell me what his closing track is then I'll do my best to make my first one flow with his last. Though, no promises that I'll be able to succeed. Because if his last song is a ballad or some such... Might be really hard.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Elite on January 17, 2016, 01:56:15 PM
No, I definitely did not follow the theme for that last round, as I had no idea. I would never have sent that song if I had read better that it should be some kind of closing song. I sent a fucking album opener for Christ's sake :lol Well, that's my own fault I guess, bye! Good luck to the remaining three.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 17, 2016, 06:43:39 PM
Any preference on how we submit? I know I've been doing youtube for the most part this roulette (maybe a bit of Spotify), but with an EP round I know some folks sometimes prefer mp3 zip files or something along those lines...
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 17, 2016, 07:50:06 PM
No sweat, if you want to line up your EP with 425's (yes, you're 3rd so it's up to 425 what positions the both of you will be in), that's good. But I don't want you to limit yourself doing so.

Regarding submissions, I'll take whatever. Been getting some mp3 files over the course of this roulette and I don't see any problem with it. It's all the same to me honestly, youtube, spotify, e-mail, whatever suits you. My e-mail adress is in the OP.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: LordCost on January 18, 2016, 01:25:48 AM
I'm glad that you liked even this song! When I heard the voice of the Celesty singer I tried to relisten to 45 of Shinedown because I remember I felt a certain similarity of the voice, but I understand that you may not agree with it!
Amplifier are one of my favourite bands (but I don't like Mystoria album..) and I'm not sad to be beaten by that song.
It has been a great roulette for me, it was fun to partecipate  :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 18, 2016, 11:05:58 AM
Hey, sorry, I was traveling yesterday and couldn't get on DTF. Wow, I did not expect this at all! I was just hoping that Brucie would get me a solid 8-9 and a respectable 4th place finish. I guess this is just Bruce outperforming expectations as usual.

I honestly did not expect this at all. I have a bit of a busy afternoon and evening as well, so I'm not sure I'll have a full EP figured out today, but I'm going to try to get started and at least figure out where I want to be in the order by the end of the night.

Well done to everyone else. It's been a fun roulette with a lot of close, fun competition. Congratulations to the other finalists, as well! Now I guess I have to get to work on an EP.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 18, 2016, 11:24:36 AM
Yeah no prob, if you made up your mind you could PM it to Seneca aswell so he knows where it's at for him.
I have tons of albums to dig through for the time being so I won't be too bothered by a few days delay.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 19, 2016, 10:43:51 AM
I'm absolutely sure I won't make it in the deadline I set for myself (today's evening), so I think I'll send my EP Thursday evening instead. As I said, I'm terribly unproductive first two evenings of the week. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 19, 2016, 11:04:49 AM
I doubt I'll be able to get mine in before Friday, since ToN doesn't seem to rushed and since I'm still not sure if I'm middle or last
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 19, 2016, 11:14:55 AM
I doubt I'll be able to get mine in before Friday, since ToN doesn't seem to rushed and since I'm still not sure if I'm middle or last

I'll make it Friday too then. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 19, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
Yeah hoping 425 will report in soon so we can atleast get the positions sorted out. I thought I was being so clever with notifying Evermind in advance to have the positions decided ASAP so you would all have plenty of time to think of your songs. Not to worry, you'll still have plenty of time to think of it. I just hope I'm not holding up other roulette hosts because this thing has gone on for pretty long now.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 19, 2016, 01:42:10 PM
Yeah, sorry... I'm going to go ahead and take the second position. I know that there's probably a perceived advantage to going either first or last, but I don't really feel like I have any dynamite closers in store here, so maybe it will be to my benefit to not have the pressure of closing the whole thing out.

I'll try to work something out as quickly as possible and let seneca know what my last song is.

EDIT: What, if any, is the limitation on how much can be sent from any one artist?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 19, 2016, 09:19:54 PM
I asked ToN before and he told me you have to feature minimum 4 different artists in your EP. Otherwise, there are no limitations I think.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 20, 2016, 02:39:44 AM
Yep, that's the only requirement apart from the length limit of 20-30 minutes.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 20, 2016, 08:41:16 AM
Thanks, good to know. :tup
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 20, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
I think I have five artists and songs picked out. I'm going to send tomorrow night or friday probably
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 21, 2016, 03:04:34 AM
Cool, was just about to ask how everything was coming along.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 21, 2016, 12:59:58 PM
I have a rough draft of mine. I plan to listen to it tonight and see if there's anything I want to change. So I'll send mine either tonight or tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 21, 2016, 01:10:57 PM
Awesome, by the looks of it I'll have all your EP's by tomorrow. Let's see if all three of you stay true to those statements  :hat
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 21, 2016, 01:11:41 PM
I probably won't.

Nah, I probably will.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 21, 2016, 10:52:12 PM
I've sent!

The rest is in your hands now   :smiley:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
Sent! Microsoft Word says my write-up for the EP has 3494 words in it. That's what you get if you allow me to reach the Finals. :lol

Anyway, my EP is called Hymns for the Soul and is 28:28 in length (I hope every song is allowed.) What about yours, 425 and seneca?
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 22, 2016, 01:09:18 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 01:11:49 PM
Nope

I've got another perfect song then.

Just need to write another 500 words about it, wait for it.

Well shit, now I'm at 3637 words and it won't let me send the message, says it's too long. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 01:46:37 PM
Alright, sent again. This time my EP is 29:37.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 22, 2016, 01:56:08 PM
Just sent. Hopefully there isn't a problem with any of my artists or songs!

The total length should be right around 28:26.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 22, 2016, 02:01:56 PM
Just sent.
No you didn't  ???
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 02:06:21 PM
Oh, by the way, 425, my last song was rejected so as you saw I had to re-send. Obviously I panicked and forgot to tell you, so my new last song is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvPBSgrxpU

I'm not sure if it matters now since you've sent anyway, but well, yeah. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: 425 on January 22, 2016, 02:33:31 PM
Just sent.
No you didn't  ???

I definitely sent you an email. Maybe it got flagged as spam or something?


Oh, by the way, 425, my last song was rejected so as you saw I had to re-send. Obviously I panicked and forgot to tell you, so my new last song is this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOvPBSgrxpU

I'm not sure if it matters now since you've sent anyway, but well, yeah. :lol

I should be good, since mine is pretty self-contained. Thanks for letting me know, though.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 22, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Oh, sorry, I only checked the DTF inbox, I got it! Which means I got all three of 'em now.

Gonna see if I can get some listening going tomorrow.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 02:54:04 PM
Cool. I suggest you should listen to mine in a calm environment focusing only on the songs and lyrics and on nothing else. Definitely don't listen to it on the road or anything like that.

Also, 425, I was just misleading you for fun. :biggrin: This isn't my last EP song. I thought of including Savatage but didn't find the right spot.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 22, 2016, 03:01:57 PM
Cool. I suggest you should listen to mine in a calm environment focusing only on the songs and lyrics and on nothing else.

I was actually planning on listening to it in the Anechoic Chamber of my old school whilst recording my LIVE reaction, to then post it online and go viral on YouTube, but that's a good alternative
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 22, 2016, 03:16:33 PM
Cool. I suggest you should listen to mine in a calm environment focusing only on the songs and lyrics and on nothing else.

I was actually planning on listening to it in the Anechoic Chamber of my old school whilst recording my LIVE reaction, to then post it online and go viral on YouTube, but that's a good alternative

:lol

It's just I listened to some of my roulette rounds either on the train or on the plane. I remember falling asleep on the train during one of the epics

See, my roulettes are a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 22, 2016, 04:20:57 PM
Seems as though my section will be the shortest of the three. Quality over quantity.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Evermind on January 23, 2016, 01:26:57 AM
Seems as though my section will be the shortest of the three. Quality over quantity.

Dunno, I wanted to share as many great songs as I could.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette (Respect My Authority) - Down to a quarter.
Post by: Train of Naught on January 23, 2016, 03:26:54 AM
First listen completed hype  :hat

I must say, I really like the format of this final round, every section has its own approach but it strangely molds together in a pretty cohesive piece of music with lots of different genres. I listened to the whole thing continuously once now, a total of 81 minutes it is. I donít think Iíve ever been this focused when listening to music, not a second of interruption.
The only thing that bothers me is that Iím already comparing songs from the various EPís and making up scores in my head, while what I really want to do now is let the music sink in. Nothing has disappointed me so far, here and there there's songs I don't like as much, but nothing bad really.
Iím pretty devoted to this so Iím going to aim to have the final results and close the roulette off before the release of The Astonishing.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 24, 2016, 05:55:18 AM
Train of Naught - Train of Naught (debut album) Tracklisting and song lengths LEAKED!

1. David Gilmour Ė Faces of Stone  (5:32)
2. Jon Lord Ė Pictured Within  (5:24)
3. Marillion Ė Sugar Mice  (5:47)
4. David Gilmour Ė Red Sky at Night  (2:51)
5. Evergrey Ė Hymns for the Broken  (4:22)
6. Phideaux Ė The Claws of a Crayfish  (5:41)

7. God is an Astronaut Ė Remaining Light  (5:28)
8. Lorde Ė 400 Lux  (3:54)
9. Lorde Ė Buzzcut Season  (4:06)
10. Taylor Swift Ė This Love  (4:09)
11. Taylor Swift Ė Clean  (4:30)
12. Beach House Ė Days of Candy  (6:16)

13. The Antlers Ė Parade  (5:10)
14. James Blake Ė Retrogade  (4:02)
15. Radiohead Ė Reckoner  (4:50)
16. Headspace Ė The Big Day  (9:50)

Total length: 1:21:52


I'm slowly but surely starting to appreciate certain parts of the album more and more, and it truly feels like you've created something good together, even though you all submitted these different sections without discussing it (I highly assume). I don't want to give a single hint towards the final scores though, so I'll keep it at this.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Bolsters on January 24, 2016, 06:09:39 AM
Even if I didn't already know who was first/second/third, it would have been so easy to guess. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2016, 06:17:06 AM
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5. Evergrey Ė Hymns for the Broken  (4:22)

Don't forget it's a piano version.

Anyway, I'm looking at the tracklists and I only know the Headspace track out of these. I think I have a pretty good chance here.

Also, love the "LEAKED" touch. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 24, 2016, 06:24:19 AM
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5. Evergrey Ė Hymns for the Broken  (4:22)

Don't forget it's a piano version.


Right. Obviously I listen to the piano version because I have your own edit of the EP, but I forgot to mention that in the tracklisting. I suppose leaks aren't always perfectly executed though so I'll leave it at this  :hat
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Bolsters on January 24, 2016, 06:26:19 AM
Anyway, I'm looking at the tracklists and I only know the Headspace track out of these. I think I have a pretty good chance here.
Or perhaps you're screwed and just don't know it yet. :angel:
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 24, 2016, 06:29:57 AM
If you were running this round I bet you could pick a winner right away, based on last.fm and your avatar
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2016, 06:32:13 AM
If you were running this round I bet you could pick a winner right away, based on last.fm and your avatar

Well, 425's EP looks like it's hugely pop-oriented. My songs are all about emotions and sadness and these kinds of things.

The only question is if they will click with you or not.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Bolsters on January 24, 2016, 06:33:15 AM
If you were running this round I bet you could pick a winner right away, based on last.fm and your avatar
I'm not familiar with enough of Evermind's (I know about half) or seneca's (I think I've heard Headspace but don't remember) to make that call. But I do like 4/6 of 425's EP (don't know the other two at all) and the half of Evermind's that I know.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2016, 06:40:37 AM
Even if I didn't already know who was first/second/third, it would have been so easy to guess. :lol

Yes :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: senecadawg2 on January 24, 2016, 06:53:06 AM
My section has I believe two artists that I've never sent before, and 3 songs.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Elite on January 24, 2016, 07:07:33 AM
My section has I believe two artists that I've never sent before, and 3 songs.

It's the other song(s) (and those sent by the other participants) that make it obvious :)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Cyril on January 24, 2016, 09:14:11 AM
the only songs i know from any of these are the two Lorde songs  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: 425 on January 24, 2016, 10:29:03 AM
Well, I guess everyone pretty quickly figured out which one was mine :lol

I know 4/6 of Evermind's, and it looks like his will be pretty tough for me to beat. I don't know any of seneca's, actually.

Anyway, good to hear that this experiment is going well so far! I may have to give a listen to this full 80 minute thing at some point, though right now I'm sure I have some angry roulette participants waiting for me to give some writeups.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 24, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
You really should give it a try, it's really good as one piece, better than expected. Though you'll never have the full Train experience, Evermind edited some parts out where there's silence at the end so it flows better, and if it wasn't for the additional youtube playlist I made because seneca's songs were youtube links I would've had them all playing in one go.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2016, 11:02:22 AM
You really should give it a try, it's really good as one piece, better than expected. Though you'll never have the full Train experience, Evermind edited some parts out where there's silence at the end so it flows better, and if it wasn't for the additional youtube playlist I made because seneca's songs were youtube links I would've had them all playing in one go.

There aren't really a lot of edits in mine, but yeah, there are some small things like cutting the silence at the end of Hymns for the Broken so the last piano note would segue straight into the lively, playful yet dramatic culmination that is the opening of that Phideaux song.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Cyril on January 24, 2016, 11:03:55 AM
i made tiny edits with the EP I sent to 425 so it's not unprecedented  :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Evermind on January 24, 2016, 11:06:36 AM
i made tiny edits with the EP I sent to 425 so it's not unprecedented  :lol

I've made more edits on 425's EP than here. I had to seriously cut almost every silence from his EP because otherwise I couldn't make it through because of the length.

Not that it helped, really. :lol
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: 425 on January 24, 2016, 11:12:55 AM
Both of y'all had really good EPs, though. Introduced me to Kamelot, who I in turn sent to ToN which was part of the reason why I'm here right now. Full circle.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Cyril on January 24, 2016, 11:14:14 AM
I also gave you Lorde and you've backstabbed me here by sending her :')
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 24, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
He was sweet enough to give you a mention though  :heart

Quote from: 425
(as well as Paramaís, who sent it to me)
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: 425 on January 24, 2016, 11:25:25 AM
Sorry, Parama, I knew you wanted to send Lorde in this round and I'm the only reason you couldn't.

But yeah ToN is right. I try to give credit, particularly when someone introduces me to an artist who isn't exactly a DTF fave.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Cyril on January 24, 2016, 11:34:02 AM
i tease anyways, i probably should've sent her at some point but i switched out most of my entries for other stuff when Train complained that i wasn't sending him weird bands he'd never heard of  :P
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Train of Naught on January 26, 2016, 02:20:40 AM
Tomorrow is the BIG DAY!

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Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - Track titles+lengths LEAKED!
Post by: Evermind on January 26, 2016, 08:55:32 AM
I'm quite hyped, to be honest. Can't wait to see the results.
Title: Re: Train of Naught Debut Roulette - And the winner is...
Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 04:45:16 AM
... to be announced :soon:


Alright, Iíve waited with adding up the scores inbetween listens to prevent biased results to happen, whether itís subconscious or conscious, itís something I try to avoid as much as possible, so bear with me. Now it's time for the....


FINAL ROUND!!!





Evermind:

David Gilmour Ė Faces of Stone

This song is beautiful. After just one listen I was 99% sure this was going to be my favorite song of your batch. This may sound weird, and judging from your posts in my top 50 thread you donít even know the band, but there were some The Dear Hunter vibes during this song, nice surprise. The ending guitar solo is fucking unbelievable, you took my comments about SOYCD to heart I bet. But in the end, itís not about small ncie details, itís about creating a choesive piece with great individual songs as well, you hit it out of the park with this song.

20/20



Jon Lord Ė Pictured Within

Well, yea, I like me some Deep Purple, this is nothing like it at all though. I never knew he was striving to play classical music, but the stuff I liked most were the rocking guitars, the energetic heavier stuff, the groovy keyboard solo in Highway Star, you name it. I never heard anything from Jon Lord, but following up the glorious ĎFaces of StoneĎ this was a bit of a letdown. I liked it a bit and it grew on me slightly, but the piano is about the only thing that I could enjoy, the rest of it is okay at best to me.

14/20




Marillion Ė Sugar Mice

Given the subject matter, I guess I shouldnít say this, but it was actually a fun song IMO, just musically though, the vocal melodies sounded fun, but following along the lyrics you start to realize that thatís not the case.. Anyway, Iíve seen the name Marillion pass by quite a few times, and while theyíre a pretty old band compared to the stuff I listen to I can see myself enjoying some of it.

17/20



David Gilmour Ė Red Sky at Night

Man I love me some sax! (Shoutout to TesseracTís Calabi-Yau) I actually expected Gilmour to sing, but you mentioned it being an instrumental, oh well, itís under 3 minutes. Beautifully done; the saxophone is great, the overall atmosphere is FANTASTIC. If I learned anything from this final round, itís that I need more David Gilmour in my life.

18/20



Evergrey Ė Hymns for the Broken

Another beautiful song. The ďreach outď part is fantastic, along with the contrast of male/female vocals. They both sound like powermetal/prog-metal singers, and I can always appreciate (for instance the male singer here) people with such a heavy voice singing so emotively. Well you said yourself that this is just a piano version of an actual prog-metal song, so that makes sense, but if you donít have that information, it actually sounds like this was originally created this way. On top of that, the piano works wonders here, Ďnuff said. Originally, the scores of this song and the previous one were swapped around, I realized I didnít like the David Gilmour instrumental more than this one, but I felt an extra point for this song wasnít out of place, itís fucking beautiful.

So far, a really touching EP with amazing ballads, if it wasnít for Pictured Within this wouldnít even be a contest.

19/20



Phideaux Ė The Claws of a Crayfish

Donít know if intentional, but this has a very good epic feel to it, to close off the first chapter, nicely done on that count. I donít know where that headbang moment is supposed to be :lol, I donít see myself headbanging to a piano melody. Before we close off ďHymns for the Soulď (which, sorry not sorry, is a very cheesy title), thereís a very soothing atmospheric ending with what sounds like an organ in the background, neat. Pretty catchy song, not sure if itís something Iíd go back to though, I feel like this can only work if the instruments are as good as they are here, because the singer seems like someone that would be pretty distracting to me if it wasnít for the awesome instrumentation.

17/20


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105/120 = 17.5/20



The EP:

I felt like I was on a journey during this EP, since you decided to take the first spot, the freedom of setting the mood with whatever you desired was there. You opened with one of the best songs of this round, if not the best, and it was actually not just a good separate song that had nothing to do with the rest of the EP! Thatís massive. I love how you chose the path of sad ballads, Iím more of a sad-song type of guy myself when it comes to ballads, but that silver lining hidden somewhere every once in a while doesnít hurt either. Pictured Within is probably the only song in here that I didnít really care for.

8.5/10

Great start, on to 425..





425:

God Is An Astronaut Ė Remaining Light

Wow, yes. This is an amazing transition, that Savatage song flows really well into this :neverusethis:. But kidding aside, this instrumental is really beautiful. I might be over-using the word beautiful in this round but you guys really did well on the beautiful-meter. I like me some piano, this stuff is next-level though, the climax strangely reminded me of Space-Dye Vest, and thatís one of my favorite piano-driven songs (if you could really call it that). Now Iím interested in the actual post-rock music these guys make.

19/20



Lorde Ė 400 Lux

Awesome, I like me some Lorde, itís not just her though, a lot of pop artists these days all of the music is centered around them, but thereís something special in the beat, that really deep echoing bass, Iíll never get enough of that. I know you called your last song dream pop, but this feels really dreamy as well.
This has been growing on me a bit, first I was all crazy about the beat, but the chorus is damn catchy too, starting to dig it a lot.

18/20



Lorde Ė Buzzcut Season

Okay, Iíve seen this title pass by plenty of times in other roulettes, I think just by you and Parama, but maybe others too. On a side note, I think the flow of this EP is tremendous, obviously youíre the only one with simultaneous songs by the same artists so that might play a big part in it.
I like this song even more than 400 Lux, it has catchy melodies, and still that echoing bass that I talked about previously. The chorus is damn good, I never expected something like this, itís not your typical pop-song, thatís for sure.

19/20



Taylor Swift Ė This Love

Well, thereís one main job pop music has to check off, ďis it catchy?ď why yes it is. I never really looked into Taylor Swiftís music, though some of the main singles from 4 years ago or so were guilty pleasures of mine, used to be played on the radio where I worked every single day. This Love is good (this love is bad), but I still liked the Lorde songs better.

Just noticed a NUGGET! Glowing in the Dark got mentioned in the lyrics, well, that only took 5 listens for me to notice, wow. Intentional?

16/20



Taylor Swift Ė Clean

I only know the side ĎhappyĎ side of Taylor Swift, even though the subject matter of most songs are about break-ups and stuff, the music is very happy/uplifting most of the times. And thatís why this song appeals more to me than the last. Theyíre both aight, but Iím going to go ahead and be mainstream and say that I like the popular singles better.
Also, the idea of transitioning from night to day within your EP is pretty cool, and itís not BS, it actually gives me that feeling when listening to it. I could easily see it affecting the overall experience of the EP had you switched around these two TS songs, so there has obviously gone plenty of thought into this.

17/20



Beach House Ė Days of Candy

So after your streak of popular pop artist songs, you follow it up with the most dreamy song ever. I donít have a lot to say about this, simply because words fail to describe the things I think and feel hearing this. Thereís so many instruments and other elements all focusing on one big, surreal atmospheric sound. Overall just a fun and at the same time dreamy song, that I cannot possibly come close to describing accurately.
Great way to wrap it up really, I couldnít imagine what a good closing song for the 2nd part of the album would be like, but now I can.

19/20


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108/120 = 18/20



The EP:

This EP turned from a pretty sad instrumental piano-driven song into a really dreamy atmosphere that invokes joy and happiness more than anything Iíve heard this round. Regardless of how many thought youíve given your EP, regardless of how much I like the songs separately, this sounds like the best thought-out EP easily, it stood out as a solid center of the album, a piece that connected the first and last EPís amazingly well with a great variety of moods. I canít do anything but give you a perfect score for the flow and overall EP experience/quality. The night/day theme just makes it even better because thatís really working well with the songs.

10/10

 



Senecadawg2:

The Antlers Ė Parade

This was supposed to be a Bon Iver song at first, but Iím not bothered by the replacement, this song has really good moments, especially the vocal melodies, which you mentioned would be a main focus in your EP. It also kinda carries on the vibes and feelings from 425ís EP, not perfectly, but very well nonetheless. Something really has to click for a song like this to appeal to me, and thatís the voice in this case, because usually I would get bored by this kind of music. Off to an alright start.

17.5/20

But then...



James Blake Ė Retrograde


Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, someone hit the jackpot! What a song. The humming in the beginning of the song that blends into the background later on and keeps returning is the best thing ever, so catchy, soothing, relaxing, funky, all of it. I donít even mind the continuous *clap*, even though thatís what put me off during the David Gray song, here itís fine.
This was one of the songs I kept wanting to hear over and over again, itís so good! If this was one of those songs youíve never sent before in a roulette, please do so from now on, itís amazing and more people need to hear it!

20/20



Radiohead Ė Reckoner

Never been a fan of Radiohead, but I never really gave them a fair shot, either. The transition from Retrogade to this is a bit.. odd, but whatever. You mentioned the drums being a bit higher in the mix works well with the previous song, but I donít feel that way, that cymbal especially is pretty grating IMO. Thom Yorke is unique, thatís for sure, still not my thing though, I guess Radiohead will never be for me. Thereís a nice atmosphere going on but overall Iím not really into this.

15/20



Headspace Ė The Big Day (I actually just now noticed an accidental pun in my last post on here)

So, Iíve heard this album once or twice quite a while ago, I was on the edge of putting this artist on the banned list, but since I didnít remember any particular song I decided not to. I also noticed Daddy Fucking Loves You has been a go-to song of yours so I kinda expected that one when seeing Headspace in your PM. Hearing the new single I figured this was a very vocally-driven progressive metal band, which is hard to find with a certain amount of quality these days. The thing that hooked me on first listen, naturally, was the badass metal instrumentation. Itís in my nature, I like metal, I canít help it. But the vocals were eventually what made this song so damn good. Some of the vocal lines remind me of Haken, when Ross does that high-pitched thing where he goes from a harmonic high note into this angry voice, hard to explain, but he does it a lot on Falling Back to Earth if that helps. Iím not often impressed by debut-albums as much as this, I think, judging by this song, that I Am Anonymous belongs right next to the Native Construct album in my batch of favorite prog-metal debut albums of the past 5 years, I can totally see myself checking out this album again a week from now and buying it very soon, maybe before the new release even.

20/20


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72.5/80 = 18.125/20



The EP:

Actually, out of all the three sections, I think I liked the flow and overall quality of this whole piece the least, but you had 2 perfect scores, so that should count for something right?
The The Antlers and James Blake songs both worked very well for the overall flow, you had that going for you at that point, after the first listen I remember thinking "oh man, seneca's definitely got this", the Radiohead song unfortunately killed that vibe (and I'm not even talking about the song quality right now, it's just how I feel about its flow), and the Headspace song, while one of my favorites of the whole roulette, didnít feel perfectly fitting either, though still way better than the Radiohead song. For this EP, youíd expect any other prog-metal to be completely out of place, but this goes from a slow acoustic song with memorable vocal melodies to a bombastic climax of epic metal, only to close with a mixture of that metal and those vocal melodies I loved so much. So it probably was a better fit than most prog-metal, but I bet you were better off this way anyway, opposed to sending me a slow song that I would like just enough to give a score of like 16/20, after all, the separate scores do count more.

7.5/10





Let's look at the results more closely now:



Evermind:

20/20 +
14/20 +
17/20 +
18/20 +
19/20 +
17/20
= 17.5/20

17.5/20 + 8.5/10 = 26/30



425:

19/20 +
18/20 +
19/20 +
16/20 +
17/20 +
19/20
= 18/20

18/20 + 10/10 = 28/30


Senecadawg2:

17.5/20 +
20/20 +
15/20 +
20/20
= 18.125/20

18.125/20 + 7.5/10 = 25.625/30



Adding them up to the current standings, we get:















425: 86.5 + 28 = 114.5
Evermind: 87.5 + 26 = 113.5
senecadawg2: 86.5 + 25.625 = 112.125





















Congratulations 425!!!!




Every section was truly beautiful guys, this was seriously an album I'd consider buying, sadly that would cost me a lot of money since there's like 13 different artists I'd need to get albums from, unless I buy the separate songs on iTunes or whatever, never done that though. I liked the standard format of the first ten rounds a lot, but this final one really was something different, I would do this kinda thing again if I ever host another one, though I don't know how far from now that would be, I have enough exploring to do on my own for atleast a year now, if not more.
Might post an aftermath thingy in here :soon:, but for now, fire away, what did you like? What could I improve on as a host (apart from not liking your song more than I did)? Discuss whatever, the roulette however, is officialy over now. Thanks all!
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Post by: Bolsters on January 27, 2016, 04:56:26 AM
Congrats to the integer!
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2016, 05:29:27 AM
I'm amazed that all of that fit on to one post!

Congrats 425
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Post by: Evermind on January 27, 2016, 05:30:45 AM
Well, damn, another loss in EP round for me. Don't think I've actually won any of these. Well done, 425!

About this Jon Lord song - total blasphemy. One of the best songs I've ever heard and easily my favourite of the batch. I had reservations about sending it to you though,  which is why it wasn't on the first version of this EP. I just should have included another Gilmour song since I already filled the artist quota.

But well, no regrets from me, I can't regret sending one of my favourite songs and losing with it.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 27, 2016, 05:31:59 AM
Second place is a bitch, eh Ruslan?  I've got a handful of those under my belt too.

(https://phillipwright.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/maxwell_smart.jpg)
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Post by: Evermind on January 27, 2016, 05:41:13 AM
Second place is a bitch, eh Ruslan?  I've got a handful of those under my belt too.

(https://phillipwright.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/maxwell_smart.jpg)

No kidding. I did lose the same way in 425's roulette - he didn't like Beyond the Bridge - All a Man Can Do as my EP closer and I've finished second losing by half a point. Then it was Brent's EP round, he didn't like that Ian Anderson song and I finished third losing again by half a point. Now this. :facepalm:

Edit: oh, and also, ToN, it's sort of a tradition of mine to give my EPs cheesy names. I've already had "All a Man Can Do (To Win the Roulette)", "Kickass" and now "Hymns for the Soul". :lol Keep an eye on the other roulettes to see what I will come up with next. :lol
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Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 06:56:58 AM
425 was the most consistent in the finals, but none of his songs in this round reached my top 3, seneca's Headspace song was terrific, Evermind's David Gilmour opener was fucking beautiful. But James Blake's Retrogade takes the cake, what a fantastic song.
 

I'm amazed that all of that fit on to one post!
Yeah me too..

About this Jon Lord song - total blasphemy. One of the best songs I've ever heard and easily my favourite of the batch.
Dang, that's quite serious, because that first Gilmour song was about as good as it gets for me, I guess you like that Jon Lord song an awful lot then. Tastes. For what it's worth you have triggered me to check out David Gilmour and Evergrey.
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Post by: Evermind on January 27, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
About this Jon Lord song - total blasphemy. One of the best songs I've ever heard and easily my favourite of the batch.
Dang, that's quite serious, because that first Gilmour song was about as good as it gets for me, I guess you like that Jon Lord song an awful lot then. Tastes. For what it's worth you have triggered me to check out David Gilmour and Evergrey.

Indeed I do. As I said (or I didn't, I don't remember), the fact I succeeded in seeing it performed live before Jon Lord passed away is very heartwarming for me, and oh my, was it an amazing experience. The whole night was, but this was something out of this world.

Anyway, you are forgiven because you loved David Gilmour songs. :biggrin: You can either check out his latest album, Rattle that Lock (Faces of Stone is from that album), or his previous, On an Island (Red Sky at Night is from this one). For Evergrey, you can also try their latest, Hymns for the Broken, or some albums from 2001-2004: In Search of Truth, Recreation Day or The Inner Circle. I strongly recommend starting with something out of these four.

I hope you'll also check out some albums from the main rounds. I know you already tried Beyond the Bridge, but anyway, I'm always interested to see what albums clicked with people after their roulettes.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on January 27, 2016, 08:51:58 AM
Kind of a bummer to have the highest average score from my submissions and still land in last place, but that's the name of the game. I sacrificed EP cohesion when I realized that two bands not on the banned list at the time were, in fact, banned. Even still, I'm glad to've played and I'm glad you liked two of the songs so much--I wasn't expecting to win this thing, to begin with.

Congrats 425! Condolences to Evermind.
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Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 09:09:07 AM
Yea that was bad forgetting to include them, there was always the opportunity to turn it all around, but like I mentioned, I don't think the cohesion was that bad, and if you flipped it all around the average song score would probably suffer from it as well, assuming Retrogade and The Big Day would need replacement. In the end, I think the Radiohead song is what caused the most problems for both scores.

I hope you'll also check out some albums from the main rounds. I know you already tried Beyond the Bridge, but anyway, I'm always interested to see what albums clicked with people after their roulettes.
Lots. In my next batch there's two albums I found out through your songs, The Scarecrow and Damnation. After that, there's still the Amadeus Awad album, the IQ album and the Absolute Priority album. Blind Guardian is a maybe, might consider it when I complete the current list.
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Post by: Cyril on January 27, 2016, 09:25:40 AM
yay 425  :tup
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Post by: Sacul on January 27, 2016, 09:29:43 AM
seneca not winning, smh tbh fam. props 425, 420 bro
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Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 27, 2016, 12:01:43 PM
Good choice with Beach House, 425.  :tup
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Post by: 425 on January 27, 2016, 02:41:53 PM
Wow, wow, wow, I actually won something! Very happy that you liked it my EP so much and thought that my theme was actually good!

Credit where credit is due, of course. Three of my EP artists were originally sent to me in my own roulette, so I feel I should credit Scorpion and Shadow Ninja for introducing me to God Is An Astronaut, Parama for introducing me to Lorde, and Shadow Ninja also for introducing me to Beach House. Thanks for introducing me to those artists, guys, not just because they helped me win here, but because they are awesome.





On the off-chance that anyone is interested, here is my writeup that I sent to Train of Naught describing the theme of my EP:

Quote from: 425
Alright, here is my EP. This is an interesting mix of songs Iíve put together that kind of fit a loose theme. Obviously, I donít know what Evermind or seneca sent (except I do know Evermindís last song), but I figured that as the bridge between their two EPs, it makes total sense that mine has kind of the vibe of being a night between two days.

After Evermindís EP fades into silence, mine begins, very softly, with an instrumental track from Irish post rock group God Is An Astronaut. This piano-driven song is called Remaining Light, and, true to its title, it really embodies the feeling of sunset. Though it is less guitar-heavy than the bandís usual work, this is a beautiful little piece that works well thematically as an instrumental intro for this mix.

The bulk of the EP, then, sandwiched between Remaining Light and another conceptual, ethereal piece, features songs from two of my favorite pop albums from the past few years. The amazing Lorde leads off with two songs from her album Pure Heroine. Released in 2013, when Lorde was just 16(!), Pure Heroine is a dreamy pop album with a strong sense of atmosphere and a heavy emphasis on the artistís sultry vocals. The two songs I have sent from this album are 400 Lux and Buzzcut Season. 400 Lux is a dramatic song about a passionate romance that illustrates Lordeís personality and charm in a way that still fits with the vibe of this EP. Buzzcut Season, which is in my opinion (as well as Paramaís, who sent it to me) Lordeís finest song, explores the idea of escape through a series of memorable choruses. Both are among my favorite pop songs from the 2010s.

The unavoidable Taylor Swift follows Lorde with a couple of deep cuts from her critically acclaimed (even by non-pop-fans) 2014 album 1989. No doubt youíve heard (or at least heard of) the lead singles Shake It Off and Blank Space, or even Wildest Dreams, which could totally fit on this EP had I chosen it. I opted to go with two of the less acclaimed tracks from this album that have a vibe that is more in keeping with the theme of this EP: This Love and Clean. This Love is a pretty little song about the emotional turmoils of romance. Clean is the closer of the 1989 album and also the beginning of the ďmorningĒ phase of this EPóthe music is a bit more upbeat than the previous EP tracks and the lyrics describe the end of a personal cleansing process.

The EP concludes with a more uplifting piece from dream pop duo Beach House. This, like the EP opener, is a less hooky and more atmospheric piece than the middle four songs. The subdued female vocals, uplifting music and long, slow conclusion make it an ideal closer for both the Depression Cherry album and this, the Glowing In the Dark EP.





Well played roulette to all who were in it! Evermind and seneca were worthy opponents, and from the looks of things, both put together some pretty stellar songs to create this whole 90 minute thing. I'm definitely going to have to give a listen to this full "album" after seeing how well Train of Naught liked it. Condolences to the two of them and everyone else, but it was a very well-played roulette.

It was also a well-organized one! ToN, you were definitely on top of things in terms of pacing, round themes and scores. You also have some pretty nice writeups! :tup It was great to be a part of this. It was a very fun roulette. I hope we all introduced you to a lot of fantastic music! Thanks for running everything!
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Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 03:31:12 PM
I hope we all introduced you to a lot of fantastic music! Thanks for running everything!

Of course I did! Remember, the only real winner in a roulette is the host. I noticed this is your first win, congrats on making the wall of fame.

Definitely do check out that album, you're also in the best position to do so because I don't see people who don't have '1989' buying the album just to listen to this in full. I respect the decision to not put music on Spotify and Youtube and all, but it makes it damn hard for me. I'm not one to buy an album really quickly as I simply don't have the money for it. Spotify has been a great alternative, I'm not gonna have the debate of whether Spotify is fair to artists here, but this will probably prevent me from listening to any of the Taylor Swift songs at all.
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Post by: 425 on January 27, 2016, 03:57:36 PM
Of course I did! Remember, the only real winner in a roulette is the host. I noticed this is your first win, congrats on making the wall of fame.

Thank you!


Definitely do check out that album, you're also in the best position to do so because I don't see people who don't have '1989' buying the album just to listen to this in full. I respect the decision to not put music on Spotify and Youtube and all, but it makes it damn hard for me. I'm not one to buy an album really quickly as I simply don't have the money for it. Spotify has been a great alternative, I'm not gonna have the debate of whether Spotify is fair to artists here, but this will probably prevent me from listening to any of the Taylor Swift songs at all.

I respect her decision as well, but I also respect that it makes things difficult. I believe her music is on Apple Music, so there is at least one streaming option for 1989.
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Post by: Cyril on January 27, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
i actually like Bravado from the bonus tracks about as much as Buzzcut Season and I dig Team and A World Alone a lot too, but yeah the album as a whole is quite good, hope she releases something this year
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Post by: Scorpion on January 27, 2016, 04:03:08 PM
That's a pretty sweet EP Evermind, you'd have won my hypothetical EP round with that.
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Post by: mikemangioy on January 28, 2016, 06:29:40 AM
Congrats 425! This was a cool roulette, I really liked your style TON.
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Post by: Train of Naught on January 28, 2016, 07:27:20 AM
Appreciate it! I won't be doing this for quite a while but you're all welcome once the time has come.
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Post by: splent on January 28, 2016, 06:45:20 PM
Second place is a bitch, eh Ruslan?  I've got a handful of those under my belt too.

(https://phillipwright.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/maxwell_smart.jpg)

Yep. I've had one so far. But it's the best I got.
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Post by: Train of Naught on May 11, 2016, 08:41:45 AM
Hey guys, long time no see! I had abandoned my whole roulette project and the albums I wrote down to check out based on your songs for a bit. But it's a lot of stuff to go through so I don't think I'm late at all with this, some people are still going through roulette stuff a year after their roulette ended from what I understand.

Part of me waited because I didnít want to absolutely burn myself out on new music, so Iím glad I put it on hold for a bit. I havenít been keeping track of every single album from the start, but from the last batch of albums, which consisted of like 30-40 albums, these are the ones that are 100% certainly on my list for future purchase (every album that I ranked 7.5 or higher is on this list):

God Is An Astronaut Ė God Is An Astronaut (8.5/10)
Riverside Ė Love, Fear and the Time Machine (8.0/10)
Rishloo - Living As Ghosts With Buildings As Teeth (8.0/10)
The Antlers Ė Familiars (7.75/10)
Kyuss Ė Welcome to Sky Valley (7.75/10)
Kauan Ė Muistumia (7.75/10)
Bent Knee Ė Shiny Eyed Babies (7.75/10)
Vanden Plas Ė Chronicles of the Immortals: Netherworld II (7.75/10)
Steven Wilson Ė Hand. Cannot. Erase. (7.75/10)
Absolute Priority Ė Hunter (7.5/10)
Bon Iver Ė For Emma, Forever Ago (7.5/10)
David Gilmour Ė On An Island (7.5/10)
Lorde - Pure Heroine (7.5/10)

East of the Wall - The Apologist (7.5/10)

You shouldnít be frightened by these scores, anything 7.5 or higher is actually really good for my standards when rating albums, and the 8.5 I gave God Is An Astronaut is absolutely phenomenal, very few albums I checked out reached 8.5, this oneís comfortably sitting in the top 10 favorite albums I got/will get this year, and thatís including 2016 releases.

Aditionally, hereís the list of albums I still really liked, but donít know if Iíll have enough money to spare for yet:

Beach House Ė Depression Cherry (7.25/10)
Navarone Ė Vim and Vigor (7.25/10)
The Dillinger Escape Plan (7.0/10) (I did already get One Of Us Is The Killer though, it got a 7.5/10, so your submission wasnít in vain Shadow Ninja :P)
Intronaut Ė The Direction of Last Things (7.0/10)
Primal Fear Ė Delivering the Black (7.0/10)
Sleep Party People Ė Floating (7.0/10)
Theocracy Ė As the World Bleeds (7.0/10)
Genesis Ė Selling England By the Pound (7.0/10)



And to finish it off, hereís a list of albums that either were already on the list to purchase, or I have purchased already (note: I didnít keep track of these so I mightíve forgotten one or two thatíll go on the Ďpurchase in futureĎ list, if you want to know specifically just ask me and Iíll let you know):

Between the Buried and Me Ė Coma Ecliptic/Parallax/The Great Misdirect/Alaska (pretty much every 'prog' album except for Colors, sorry mike, this was one of my least favorite BTBAM albums but you still got me to check out their entire discog and Iím a big fan now. That said, White Walls and Ants of the Sky remain some of my favorite BTBAM songs): (The Great Misdirect, since it got the highest rating Ė 9.5/10)
Thank You Scientist Ė Maps of Non-Existent Places: (8.75/10)
Dredg Ė El Cielo: (8.75/10)
Thrice Ė Beggars: (8.5/10)
Destrage Ė Are You Kidding Me? No.: (8.25/10)
Soilwork Ė The Ride Majestic: (8.25/10)
Leprous Ė Bilateral: (8.0/10)
Amplifier - The Octopus (8.0/10)
Anathema Ė Weíre Here Because Weíre Here: (8.0/10)
IQ Ė The Road of Bones: (8.0/10)
Avantasia Ė The Scarecrow: (7.5/10)
Fun. Ė Aim and Ignite: (7.5/10)
Beyond the Bridge Ė The Old Man and the Spirit: (7.75/10)
Opeth Ė Damnation: (8.0/10)
Frost* - Milliontown: (7.75/10)
David Maxim Micic Ė Bilo 1/2/3: (N/A (he gave the download links away for 10 bucks or so and I just bought them without hearing the actual music yet))



So why am I bumping this now? It may seem a little weird as this roulette has been concluded nearly 4 months ago. This does seem like the most appropriate place to post it, I know I always enjoy when people end up enjoying and even buying albums based on something I recommended to them, and with roulettes itís basically the same concept, but instead of recommending a song you submit them. So I thought it could be fun for some of you to have some insight on my recent+future purchases.


My second roulette is probably not as far away as I first anticipated it to be, aiming for it to be around August depending on the waiting list and my own availability. Think of something along the lines of the first one, structurally, but Iíve had some fun extraís in mind to implement in my second one to spice it up (donít worry, itís not going to be crazy complex). Probably going with the Ďfirst come, first serveĎ rule again, Iím not a fan of the qualifying rounds thing, if I absolutely have to I will though.
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Post by: LordCost on May 11, 2016, 03:06:35 PM
It's great to have this news even after many months. Surprisingly Digital Veil by The Human Abstract is not even in thelist, and I remember Antebellum was your second or third favourite song (I hope not to confuse survivors  :lol). But I agree with you, the album as a whole doesn't do a lot even for me. The Rishloo album instead is awesome: Landmines, Dead Rope Machine, Dark Charade, Winslow, Just A Ride.. many great songs and not a weak one
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Post by: Train of Naught on May 11, 2016, 03:23:21 PM
Rishloo I actually forgot to put on the list, but that's because just moments after I scored your song, they offered the download link to their album for free for a period of 24 hours, I took the offer but never actually paid for it and I feel I should, so I put it back on the list to remind me.

Yeah.. the the Human Abstract album felt like a puncht to the face :lol I didn't dislike it, but after hearing Antebellum (which was by far the best pick you could've gone for) it felt like I already heard everything. Tried this album various times but it didn't do much for me.

Now that I think of it, this wasn't the only ocassion, I kinda had the same with Vangough, loved Separation but the album only had like 2 or 3 songs I liked nearly as much.

Jolly is great too and should be on that list, forgot to add it, but since double albums are expensive I might have to hold off for a bit. That's my only gripe with that one too, it's a bit too much, but the album has many great moments, my favorite song is Firewell.
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Post by: LordCost on May 11, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
From Digital Veil I only listen to Complex Terms and Faust really rarely from the other tracks, I was not confident at all when I did the submission because it's not one of my favourite bands. I liked almost every song of the Vangough album instead, but the two previous ones seems not to be as good as Between The Madness.

The Audio Guide To Happiness pt.2 seems better than pt.1. I'm lazy to discover more songs of Pt.1, I know all the songs of part2 and my favourites are Firewell, The Grand Utopia and Despite The Shell.
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Post by: Tyrias on May 12, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
Glad you checked out and apparently loved that dredg album, that's one of my top 10 albums ever probably. Such a strong atmosphere consistently, and it was pretty amazing when I saw them perfrom the whole album live in one piece.
Such intense. Much wow.

That Opeth album is nice as well, but far from my favourite by them.
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Post by: Train of Naught on May 12, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
For me it goes:

1. Ghost Reveries
2. Pale Communion
3. Damnation

Right now. But those are the only three I have/checked out at all, I tend to get kinda lazy when getting into a band when they have a big discography, I should probably get BWP and Watershed sometime soon because this band hasn't disappointed so far.
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Post by: Tyrias on May 12, 2016, 03:17:48 PM
You should add Still Life to that list, it's pretty amazing as well. My top 4 Opeth albums are probably Ghost Reveries, Blackwater Park, Still Life and Watershed, in no particular order. It gets harder after that, everything starting with My Arms Your Hearse is at least good, most things are more between fantastic and amazing.
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Post by: Cyril on May 12, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
ghost reveries is awesome yeah, one day I'll be really into other opeth albums. but not yet
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Post by: Sacul on May 12, 2016, 05:15:32 PM
Nice to see two of my submissions there :metal