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Dream Theater => Concerts and Set Lists => Topic started by: The Paddies on November 02, 2015, 02:05:48 AM
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Mojo just announced DT will play on Februrary 22 at the Carré Theater. Very interesting!
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What!? :omg:
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I'm in!
Regular ticket: Parterre (on the right)
Row 4 seat 20
Yeah!! :metal
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I GOT TICKETS AS WELL!!!
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Wait what? I thought tickets weren't available yet. They go on sale on friday.
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The presale is up on dreamtheater.net on the tour page.
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Looks like the pre-sale is already sold out :o
What does this mean for the rest of the tickets?
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The pre-sale is just a percentage of the tickets available for the show. The main release will always have the largest bulk of tickets available.
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Yes, that is correct. I called Carre about it since I also saw it was sold out. The presale is only a selection of several classes of tickets, dont worry, you will get a chance this friday.
Me calling Carre was before I got VIP (gold) tickets at the seventh row for my birthday! Hell yes, looking forward to this a lot ;D
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Looking forward to this one, been to this theater before and its very nice indeed, anyone thinking about it for the first time shouldn't hesitate.
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I'm also quite curious if anybody knows how expensive the best normal tickets are. On the tickets website it only says 65 euros and up.
Anyone bought a more expensive ticket and remember how much they paid for it?
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Too bad, I'm already seeing Symphony X at the Boerderij on the night before this. Would've loved to been there.
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I'm also quite curious if anybody knows how expensive the best normal tickets are. On the tickets website it only says 65 euros and up.
Anyone bought a more expensive ticket and remember how much they paid for it?
Top price is 86.90 euros - according to Ticketmaster.nl. Cheaper than the top priced London tickets but more expensive than Paris.
I would guess the price is set by the promoter in accordance with how much the band want to be paid plus profit. I paid more than this to see Joe Bonamassa play here earlier this year.
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I honestly did not expect to ever see DT in Carre. Cool to see them in our most prominent and royal theater!
From the IJselhallen (utter crap) to HMH (very good), classic 013 (great), and this (fantastic!), they have been going in an upwards direction regarding quality venues ;D
Too bad, I'm already seeing Symphony X at the Boerderij on the night before this. Would've loved to been there.
For me it is the other way around. I have seen SX at the Boederij before, they were awesome there and I think the venue is small but very nice. And their new album is awesome, so I am sure their setlist will be better (more varied, proggy, and melodic) than during the PL/IC tours.
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I got my ticket too. The balcony in the middle. A little further than I would've hoped, but looks like I'll have a nice overview. I guess it will be sold out quickly.
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Okay, I was there the first second of the pre-sale and the first second today - did not manage to get tickets somehow.
I'm so so sad right now : (
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Okay, I was there the first second of the pre-sale and the first second today - did not manage to get tickets somehow.
I'm so so sad right now : (
Wow, did the tickets go that fast?! I think there are still vip tickets sold on the DT site (both types). Very expensive though :-\
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They are selling tickets for the 23rd of february now too. I guess DT will be in Carré 2 nights in a row.
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Yes, I see it as well, awesome for those who failed to get tickets for the first show here! :metal
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Okay, I was there the first second of the pre-sale and the first second today - did not manage to get tickets somehow.
I'm so so sad right now : (
Wow, did the tickets go that fast?! I think there are still vip tickets sold on the DT site (both types). Very expensive though :-\
Yes apparently: 1-2 minutes. But yea, there are like 1700 places so maybe we shouldn't be suprised.
BUT I got tickets for the 23rd :heart
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22st sold out already?
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Got tickets for both nights, time for a nice winter trip to The Dam :metal
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I have an extra ticket for February 22nd: Parterre Left, seat 23, row 4. Great seat! But I'm going with a friend who scored tickets for the balcony so we're going to watch the show together from there (shared fun is even more fun). I would like to swap my ticket for the 22nd with someone who has a ticket for the show on February 23rd and doesn't really mind which show he/she will see. Just so I can attend both shows in Amsterdam. Please send a personal message if you're interested. I'll be putting my ticket up on Ticketswap in January if I haven't heard anything until then. I paid 88.83 euro's for my ticket and it is a very good seat!
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Tickets for both nights :-)
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I´ be there on the 23rd. :omg: :hefdaddy :metal :metal :metal
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3rd show added.
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Any one of the Dutchies who's willing to swap a ticket? I got my ticket for the Monday show, but have one extra left (great seat!) for that same show which I want to swap for a ticket for the Tuesday show, so I can witness this show twice. Please let me know.
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I am going to Amsterdam, to see DT's show the 22nd of February.
Does any locals know of any good places for a Pre-Show meet up?
Would be nice to meet some fellow fans in a bar, listening to DT, to get in the right mood before the consert. :metal
Any sugestions, would be much aprichiated.
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I´m not so well known in Amsterdam, but it´s right in the centre, so there´s bound to be plenty of nice spots to pick out.
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I am going to Amsterdam, to see DT's show the 22nd of February.
Does any locals know of any good places for a Pre-Show meet up?
Would be nice to meet some fellow fans in a bar, listening to DT, to get in the right mood before the consert. :metal
Any sugestions, would be much aprichiated.
I know my way around Amsterdam, and would love to do a pre-show meetup. Only problem is I'm not actually going to the show :lol :facepalm: would be fun to meet some of you though, if I have some spare time I'd be up for it.
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Just tell me where and I´ll show up, sounds like fun.
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Me too.
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I am really looking forward to the show, we got seats in the third row :metal
It would be nice to meet-up before the show, but I am not sure yet if I can.
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Holy shit. 3rd row? :omg: I'm somewhere up second row or something , they say it's reeeeally steep up there! :(
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Doesn't look tooo steep.... :p
(https://www.nationalerenovatieprijs.nl/data/assets/images/1269.jpg)
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5th row in the middle, so lucky!
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edit: I was able to fix my work schedule, I'm going :). Not the biggest Astonishing fan, but maybe it will convince me seeing it live.
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I have two great Loge tickets for sale for the 23th, sadly we can't make it :(
Loge Right, Row 1, seats 3 & 4. €120 for the pair, but even that is negotiable.
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I've been really interested in this tour and this makes it even more interesting, but while I really like the album, I don't think it's worth it at this point. Already just booked my vacations and don't have enough money to spend it on something I'm not completely sold on :-\
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I have two great Loge tickets for sale for the 23th, sadly we can't make it :(
Loge Right, Row 1, seats 3 & 4. €120 for the pair, but even that is negotiable.
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Really, really looking forward to seeing this, this evening! :azn:
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I already knew I wasn't going, but I can't do a meetup either, I'm not back in town until like 10-11 PM. I think by that time the concert is already over anyways.
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The new album is way heavier live fortunately. Intermission now. Sound is killer. Hope to have this one up at dime tomorrow at the latest. :yarr
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That venue looks killer.
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That venue looks killer.
You saw the photo JP put up a little while ago?
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That venue looks killer.
You saw the photo JP put up a little while ago?
Negative.
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Oh...never mind. :lol He put a photo of the theater on Facebook a little while ago.
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(https://www.nationalerenovatieprijs.nl/data/assets/images/1269.jpg)
Why does it look in this picture like if you are sitting up top on the left you won't see anything? Illusion?
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(https://www.nationalerenovatieprijs.nl/data/assets/images/1269.jpg)
Why does it look in this picture like if you are sitting up top on the left you won't see anything? Illusion?
Fisheye lens messing with the angle?
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That venue looks terrible for anyone sitting to the far left or right. Maybe it's just an illusion.
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After having heard TA I decided I wasn't going to see them in Carre. However, someone I know had a spare ticket that otherwise would become unused. Regardless of how I feel about TA, I went to the show hyped.
Man, that was boring and rigid. There a few cool pieces of music in there, but this was a complete overkill on similar-sounding musical and Disney stuff. LaBrie performed well and JP's A New Beginning solo was stunning.
The rest of the audience seemed to love it though.
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So, having not liked the album you didn't like the show where the album was played in full?
Hold the phone...
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I didn't want to sound like a jerk Pixel, but that seems like it was the most likely outcome for you.
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I know guys! And to be fair, the band played well so it wasn't a bad show by any means.
Still, I do disagree a bit, because in the past I've been to similar events where I didn't like the studio version, only to be 'proven wrong' by the live performance. Not this time, but that's okay. I can't say I didn't put enough effort into liking TA. Just not my thing, or so it seems.
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Great gig tonight. Enjoyed it very much.
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I know guys! And to be fair, the band played well so it wasn't a bad show by any means.
Still, I do disagree a bit, because in the past I've been to similar events where I didn't like the studio version, only to be 'proven wrong' by the live performance. Not this time, but that's okay. I can't say I didn't put enough effort into liking TA. Just not my thing, or so it seems.
Yeah fair play, and good that you had the chance to give it a chance, as it were.
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I know guys! And to be fair, the band played well so it wasn't a bad show by any means.
Still, I do disagree a bit, because in the past I've been to similar events where I didn't like the studio version, only to be 'proven wrong' by the live performance. Not this time, but that's okay. I can't say I didn't put enough effort into liking TA. Just not my thing, or so it seems.
I was just playing. Should've used the green text. :lol
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Now in the train back to Groningen, it was just amazing! I'll elaborate tomorrow.
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Great gig tonight. Enjoyed it very much.
Was the mix/sound good from the beginning of the show?
Did they serve ice cream at intermission? The London crowd were talking of ice cream at intermission.
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Listening to my recording now. Sound is excellent although it's very audible that James is really having a hard time singing these songs. His voice cracks now and then and he is all over the place during some songs.
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Great gig tonight. Enjoyed it very much.
Was the mix/sound good from the beginning of the show? Yes
Did they serve ice cream at intermission? The London crowd were talking of ice cream at intermission. No
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I found the mix to be horrible in the beginning. Totally ruined the first half hour, after which it became a little better. I heard a lot of people complaining at the break. Really liked the petrucci solo around the hour mark as did the whole audience and the song at the end about the new order. (didn't listen to the album in advance on purpose so can't be more specific). Not as great as the last time in the HMH but an ok show by DT standards.
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My recording is up on dime.
After the concert, on my way home, I listened to the concert in the car. James had a really bad night yesterday, he missed quite a few notes and was off key for a fair bit of the evening. I couldn't hear that inside the venue because the sound was quite loud.
It was nice to see this concert though, definately not up to par with my other Dream Theater experiences. I still have a ticket to the Bochum concert (front row), that I will sell for face value. I just can't justify going one more time, I don't like the new album enough to see it twice.
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The ice cream thing is gonna be different venue to venue. It's the venue that sells it for every show they have. DT are not touring ice cream retailers :lol
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Listening to my recording now. Sound is excellent although it's very audible that James is really having a hard time singing these songs. His voice cracks now and then and he is all over the place during some songs.
Agreed. Maybe give him a few more nights to acquaint himself better with the songs.
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I really, really loved the show probably my favourite live show, tied with Muse.
Mangini was absolutely amazing, the album recording doesn't do him justice. His playing is very energetic and quite dymamic and he seemed to really enjoy himself. He was probably the most entertaining to watch. He was wearing this odd safety glasses? ??? Is he scared of hitting his eyes with his drum sticks or something :p
Jordan en Petrucci played absolutely perfect and James did a really good job too, a few small mistakes but that's understandable and didn't take away from the experience. It is a shame he didn'd do the laugh and scream live :lol Myung was very static and I didn's see him looking at the crowd once, he did play his part perfectly as far as I could hear.
The mix was quite balanced I think, I would have liked Myung a little louder at times perhaps. Also the visuals were quite nice and complemented the muic without being too distracting. The lights were annoyingly bright with the Nomac tracks, but that could have been on purpose. to make the contrast with the actual music bigger perhaps?
Dream Theater it was Astonishing.
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The ice cream thing is gonna be different venue to venue. It's the venue that sells it for every show they have. DT are not touring ice cream retailers :lol
Ice Cream Theater?? :facepalm:
Mangini was absolutely amazing, the album recording doesn't do him justice. His playing is very energetic and quite dymamic and he seemed to really enjoy himself. He was probably the most entertaining to watch. He was wearing this odd safety glasses? ??? Is he scared of hitting his eyes with his drum sticks or something :p
I noticed the glasses too. From a distance they look like something you'd wear in a chemistry lab at school. But I reckon they are actual prescription glasses - you can see him in youtube videos wearing ordinary glasses, so perhaps he needs them to see what he's playing. Maybe these ones are just better at staying on for the duration of a live show..
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I just checked out a couple of videos from youtube.
JLB sounds super subpar. I mean, he gave one of the best performances of his life on this album but in these three shows they've done so far he's not even close to getting somewhere close to the album versions. I hope that changes soon.
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I just checked out a couple of videos from youtube.
I hate to be an idiot but does anyone have any links ? I looked but I must not be good at searching youtube because I didn't find any from this show.
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I usually look up 'Dream Theater' or 'Dream Theater Carre' in this case and put the 'uploaded today (or last week)' setting in the youtube specifications.
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Amsterdam intro ;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlEIqdVqVzg
Power Down & Astonishing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMC0Gt9PU3I
Chosen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8EK8xK99l8&app=desktop
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Posted a 24/96 version of Night 1 on dime now.
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Where are clips of Three Days..Lord Nafaryus...A New Beginning....Ravenskill ..come on ppl ..no seriously all the clips im interested in no one has posted :sad:
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So glad I decided to buy a ticket! This was, and is, EASILY the best concert experience I've had in my entire life!
What a fantastic venue. I had a perfect place/seat, first loge, right dead centre of the stage. Sound was perfect to my ears. The lighting.....fantastic. Imagery, although somewhat repetetive really enhances the experience. The band is as good, if better then I've ever saw them. Labrie was on top form, better then I've ever seen him. Mangini...amazing, Petrucci...just wow. Myung steady as a rock and got more movement walking off and on the stage as I've ever saw him have! (same goes for the entire band) Rudess was just perfect, everything on point. Only glitch was when front part of the drumriser fell over and two stagehands rushed on to rectify that...but that was the ONLY flaw I noticed....what an Astonishingly AWESOME experience! Kudos to the band for having the balls to try something like this. Steel on a cloud and no NoMacs in sight!!
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Where are clips of Three Days..Lord Nafaryus...A New Beginning....Ravenskill ..come on ppl ..no seriously all the clips im interested in no one has posted :sad:
It was strictly forbidden (by the band) to film/record/photograph anything and you could be placed outside for it. No wonder not many took that risk ; )
Aside from that: I enjoyed the show a lot, the sound was so beautifully balanced (too loud but I had earplugs). Last night James was spot on and his timing should get some credit. Yea, it wás Astonishing ^^
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It was strictly forbidden (by the band) to film/record/photograph anything and you could be placed outside for it. No wonder not many took that risk ; )
It's strict venue policy, not the bands. Standard in theatres like these being played in on this tour.
Unless of course JLB gave a warning himself before the show started ;)
IIRC it wasn't printed in the handouts either.
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It was strictly forbidden (by the band) to film/record/photograph anything and you could be placed outside for it. No wonder not many took that risk ; )
It's strict venue policy, not the bands. Standard in theatres like these being played in on this tour.
Unless of course JLB gave a warning himself before the show started ;)
IIRC it wasn't printed in the handouts either.
Well, the security guys told us 'the band has forbidden it'. It would be rude if they just said that to get the blame off of their shoulders xD
And it wouldn't surprise me, I actually agree - everyone would be sitting with phones high up...
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It was strictly forbidden (by the band) to film/record/photograph anything and you could be placed outside for it. No wonder not many took that risk ; )
It's strict venue policy, not the bands. Standard in theatres like these being played in on this tour.
Unless of course JLB gave a warning himself before the show started ;)
IIRC it wasn't printed in the handouts either.
I always think filming takes a way from the experience, I'd rather focus on the performance instead of my phone and enjoy the moment.
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Well, the security guys told us 'the band has forbidden it'. It would be rude if they just said that to get the blame off of their shoulders xD
And it wouldn't surprise me, I actually agree - everyone would be sitting with phones high up...
Realistically that's exactly why they said it. The venue staff were getting so much crap for it in London. Makes it a lot easier for them to just use the band as an excuse.
I've seen DT 15+ times and this is the first time i've ever seen people being stopped whilst taking pictures at a gig. Nature of the venues.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer it this way. I hate seeing people living their lives by looking through a phone.
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I would be lying if I said I never took a quick ten seconds to record something I want to look back to someday or show to other people, but at a Dream Theater concert, no way man. Apart from wanting to have the full concert experience and not focus on my phone, I don't think a lot of my friends would care for a video of a Dream Theater concert :loser:
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LOL, I just took a few shots of the beautiful venue, with my crappy old Nokia (with CRAP quality, I must add) and mere two seconds later a security guy appeared next to me asking us not to take pictures or film stuff, out of respect for him, the theatre AND the band. :biggrin: I switched if off right away, but I couldn't have come home with absolutely nothing, could I? Turned out crap anyway. But when do I get the chance to be in such a historic venue? :omg:
I felt a bit sorry towards the end of the show when the band clearly wanted the seated audience to get into it more. (although they were getting raucous roars after almost each song). They ended up getting a standing ovation during and after Our New World AND afer the closing number.
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I felt a bit sorry towards the end of the show when the band clearly wanted the seated audience to get into it more. (although they were getting raucous roars after almost each song). They ended up getting a standing ovation during and after Our New World AND afer the closing number.
Similar experience at the Palladium on the 18th. Everyone was seated the whole way through until a few brave souls got up for Our New World, and by the end of that song, everyone was up and stayed up for the final song. I thought that was pretty cool.
I was wondering beforehand whether people would stand or sit, but I was fine with the way it turned out. I honestly don't think the band really minded too much that people were sitting, although I'm sure it was nice to get that response towards the end.
The venue staff were very strict with people taking even brief photos, but I didn't see anyone actually get removed.
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I know the band probably don't want to talk to the audience too much during the show because that might take people out of the story, but I wouldn't be opposed to James saying at certain points, "Let's all stand up!" or something. :lol
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I know the band probably don't want to talk to the audience too much during the show because that might take people out of the story, but I wouldn't be opposed to James saying at certain points, "Let's all stand up!" or something. :lol
In London he did say various things:
"How we doing London?!!?!"
"Come on" (Before Hymn second half and "People can you hear us?").
"Sing Along"
etc.
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Yeah, 'are you with us?' or 'are you ready?' but not that much, which is logical to me.
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Realistically that's exactly why they said it. The venue staff were getting so much crap for it in London. Makes it a lot easier for them to just use the band as an excuse.
I've seen DT 15+ times and this is the first time i've ever seen people being stopped whilst taking pictures at a gig. Nature of the venues.
Don't get me wrong, I prefer it this way. I hate seeing people living their lives by looking through a phone.
I see, wow, I just didn't expect that of a venue. Well, no problem! I also only took a pic of the beautiful venue and looking forward to a DVD which will be much better than my crappy phone recs anyway ^^
@Cyclopsss yea the standing ovation was great!
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I see, wow, I just didn't expect that of a venue. Well, no problem! I also only took a pic of the beautiful venue and looking forward to a DVD which will be much better than my crappy phone recs anyway ^^
Yeah that's my point.. I don't understand why people think their phone videos are going to be as good as a professional shoot lol.
People are saying that DT hinted there was no plans for a DVD for this... but if that's true.. I think they will be missing a HUGE trick and doing this album a MAJOR injustice. It is screaming for a DVD with Orch and Chior and maybe even some LSFNY style acting :p
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Yeah that's my point.. I don't understand why people think their phone videos are going to be as good as a professional shoot lol.
People are saying that DT hinted there was no plans for a DVD for this... but if that's true.. I think they will be missing a HUGE trick and doing this album a MAJOR injustice. It is screaming for a DVD with Orch and Chior and maybe even some LSFNY style acting :p
No plans!? bullsh*t alert, the 'boys' teasing us like that. Tss.
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I know the band probably don't want to talk to the audience too much during the show because that might take people out of the story, but I wouldn't be opposed to James saying at certain points, "Let's all stand up!" or something. :lol
In London he did say various things:
"How we doing London?!!?!"
"Come on" (Before Hymn second half and "People can you hear us?").
"Sing Along"
etc.
That's your standard JLB stage banter throughout the night. :D
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In London he did say various things:
"How we doing London?!!?!"
"Come on" (Before Hymn second half and "People can you hear us?").
"Sing Along"
etc.
That's your standard JLB stage banter throughout the nighst. :D
When I think of that I always hear in my head 'WELCOME TO RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK CITEEEH' in that high pitched tone xD
Started up the Score DVD too much.
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In London he did say various things:
"How we doing London?!!?!"
"Come on" (Before Hymn second half and "People can you hear us?").
"Sing Along"
etc.
That's your standard JLB stage banter throughout the nighst. :D
When I think of that I always hear in my head 'WELCOME TO RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL IN NEW YORK CITEEEH' in that high pitched tone xD
Started up the Score DVD too much.
Yeah, I always hear that on my head as well. :lol
When I see DT live, I also always expect a 'COME AAAWNNNNNN! or SING IT!!!' in his high-pitched voice so I can just feel it's JLB being JLB, a stage-awkward but effective frontman. :D
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Yeah, I always hear that on my head as well. :lol
When I see DT live, I also always expect a 'COME AAAWNNNNNN! or SING IT!!!' in his high-pitched voice so I can just feel it's JLB being JLB, a stage-awkward but effective frontman. :D
Hahah yes exactly, I just love that
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I missed the JLBisms to be honest.
"We're pulling out some pretty obscure sowngs"
"This sowng is from Systematic Chaos, here we geyoooooohhhh"
Or when I saw them at Wembley, "This song is called ON THE BACKS!!! Of Ayyyngelssss."
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Or I KNOW YOU KNOW THE WOOORRDS!
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Can anyone tell me what time the gates open tonight? Couldn't find the info on the theater's website
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I wouldn't expect that information to be on the band's website, since that sort of thing is totally up to the venue. But I would guess an hour before show time.
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Welcome, to the AAAYYYSTOONIISHIIIIING!
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I wouldn't expect that information to be on the band's website, since that sort of thing is totally up to the venue. But I would guess an hour before show time.
Should've clarified that I meant the venue's website when I said "the theater's website" :P
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Ah, I see. Sorry, I mis-read your post. Hopefully, someone who went to the last show can clarify. But if not, again, 1 hour prior is a good rule of thumb.
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Thank you, and thanks for the dude who welcomed me earlier :smiley:
Maybe I can go see for myself, since my hotel is literally next door to the venue ;D
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On monday you could enter the hall an half hour in advance but the building sometime earlier, they have a bar inside where you can buy drinks when waiting for the hall to open.
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On monday you could enter the hall an half hour in advance but the building sometime earlier, they have a bar inside where you can buy drinks when waiting for the hall to open.
Thank you :tup
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Maybe I can go see for myself, since my hotel is literally next door to the venue ;D
That's so cool! It might be easier for you to run into any of the band at some point.
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Hi, new member here.
I was at the show at the Carre Theater on monday and just wanted to share some thoughts. I'm from Germany, I apologize for any weird English :D
The music sounded MUCH more rock/metal than on the CD. Very fitting for the live show imo. The audience could have been more engaged but it's probably because of the venue that most people reacted like an opera audience rather than a crowd watching a rock concert. It was funny to see that almost nobody dared to stand up during the "encore", but then after the last note the audience jumped up at once for a well deserved standing ovation :D
The visuals worked much better than I expected, they created a great "moving" effect (at some parts MM seemed to fly across the stage on his drumset) and there were some stunning moments on the screens. The Lightshow was very impressive too. Visually the best DT show for me so far.
I was sitting in the balcony in the middle with professional ear protection, therefore I had not problems with the sound. It was well balanced and clear, I could hear every member of the band. Without the ear protection though - I tried it - everything was much too loud and sounded less good. I'll never understand why concerts have to be so loud that the quality suffers from it and the audience risks damaging their ears!
The band played extremely well. Mike especially was a joy to hear and to watch, he was totally into it, looked like he had a lot of fun, big smile on his face.
I'm surprised by the criticism of James performance here. After the show I heard people comment that his voice had been "very, very good", "better than ever", that he sang flawless etc. I think he was great that evening, I never heard his voice so powerful. The YouTube clips don't do him justice. If he made a few mistakes they were so small that I forgot them instantly. The interpretation of the different characters was fantastic, I didn't expect that he would be able to do that live in such a stellar way. I think he lowered some (very few) notes, to protect his voice I guess, but it sounded intentional to me and not off key and he also belted out enough high notes. I remember a few "screamy" parts as well, but that might have been interpretation of the roles, it was fitting the scenens ("Do as my father says" was one of them).
BTW, he's "James LaBriest" in the tour program :rollin
The lack of a real encore didn't bother me. The show was very fulfilling and I can't think of a song that would have sounded right after the end of TA. It was such a monumental experience.
I'm glad I made the trip to Amsterdam, despite the bad weather. The only thing I regret is that I didn't run into any band members, my hotel was just 5 seconds away from Carre.
I hope I'll be able to watch the show again (Hannover) and I think it totally deserves to be captured on DVD.
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BTW, he's "James LaBriest" in the tour program :rollin
^ That's hilarious!
Great first post, and perfect English. Better than mine! :tup
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I saw them monday and today in Carre! I got another ticket for today as a present ;D Some impressions (in rough English):
Monday, gold vip, seated somewhere near the front:
-Sound was unacceptibly loud for a theater concert the first half. Hearing fatigue settled in halfway The Gift of Tinnitus and forced me to use earbuds. I heard many others complain as well. Act 2 was a large improvement. This unfortunately hampered my experience quite a bit. Also, talking about earbuds, vip's were graced with those cheap yellow things put in a small box with the majesty logo :lol In a theater show in such a classy venue that really seems amateurish to me.
-Still, loud as it was, the mix was actually pretty good from the get go, vastly superiour to the two previous times I saw DT. Too bad I couldn't really enjoy it as the loudness was too much of a burden on my ears.
-Labrie was struggling indeed. There were times were he did well, but there were a few songs where he was off-key for longer durations and his prononounciation was barely there. Yet he sang other parts with similar notes quite good, so I thought he was very inconsistent within the same show. Especially during the early/mid part of act 1 he sounded off frequently. That is not to say there were no moments I enjoyed his vocals though, there were definately moments he did the studio counterpart justice.
-The band was thight. Especially the drums and guitar sounded awesome. Mangini is a joy to look at. I can't see people who saw this show saying his drums on TA are boring, seriously. And all the instruments sounded great. Not those muddy/crappy tones of Along for the Ride tour, but a clear and melodic sound and pounding drums.
-DT was very static on stage and the interactions were absolutely minor (much moreso than the previous two shows I attended). As I sat fairly close and all the focus was on the musicians, they felt a bit too tame at times.
-Visuals were ace, but sitting so up front brought more focus to the band members individually than to the production as a whole (see next list of impressions).
-Overall, good concert hampered by the loudness and some really off moments for Labrie. It was great seeing this band so close, astonishing musicians indeed. It being in such a beautiful (and around here, iconic) theater really gave a different vibe.
Wednesday, seated somewhere near the middle near the stairs (so still almost ground level and pretty close).
-Mix was great from the get go and the sound wasn't loud to a bothering level. Still loud for a theater show, but I took my good earplugs with me and decided it sounded great with those so didn't even bother taking them out anymore after putting them in.
-Visual experience was very different. It was cool to see the guys playing close up, but I think the visuals are more impressive a bit more towards the back. The seperate screens seemed more like a whole a bit further in the back. And now I didn't mind the lack of movements of the band at all. I could appreciate the musical interactions more as I could see the whole band and stage production without looking around all the time (for example, seeing Petrucci and Myung playing same/similar parts together was now easier to percieve). Also, the lights at the top front of the stage, which shone through Carre, made quite a difference for me.
-Labrie was much, much better. While some songs weren't quite up to par, I wouldn't call it bad either. But there were quite a few moments that he impressed me quite a bit, both the softer melodic parts and some of the louder vocals. I do believe people are in for a treat in future shows if he manages to maintain this and iron out some of his lesser parts. I could understand what he was saying much more too. He also looked a lot more confident on stage and I felt he moved a bit more.
-Fantastic concert. Labrie's performance being much better enhanced the show greatly for me and I enjoyed the stage production a lot. Also, I no sound problems for me this time around. Crowd seemed more involved too (and kept standing after Our New World).
Some general remarks:
-That is a sexy tourbook. Both acts are summarised and all characters are featured (same as the website I think) and then there is also the regular content of their tourbooks, with some interesting behind the scenes pictures of making the show (showing actors in front of a green screen, for example). And yes, LaBriest is there :lol
-Though not really of use, I like the small touch of having a small official programme to pick up.
-Carre is such a beautiful theater.
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I saw them monday and today in Carre!......
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-Carre is such a beautiful theater.
Sounds as I definitly chose the wrong evening (monday)..
Don't get me wrong, it was a great performance. I don't even complain about LaBriest in the first way but....
it WAS way too loud without any nuance IMHO. I dont understand why it had to be so loud, with such loudness there is in no way any need to perform in a hall with such a great acoustic specifics.
The soundtech decided to blow every single frequency litterly through the walls and roof of the beautiful theater:
So I had to wear earplugs in a theater FGS...dissapointing.
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Carre Amsterdam 23-2-2016 - Moment Of Betrayal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPlKesh8gYk
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It was loud. I remember being on the verge of thinking 'Is this TOO loud?' But the show was so good, I decided to let it go. Might turn it down just a little for better enjoyment though.
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It was loud. I remember being on the verge of thinking 'Is this TOO loud?' But the show was so good, I decided to let it go. Might turn it down just a little for better enjoyment though.
I had that kind of feeling at the second Palladium night. It was definitely on the loud side, as gigs very often are which is why I always (if I remember) have earplugs on me. But on this occasion, it wasn't THAT bad, and the actual sound quality was so great, with exactly the right balance and everything being so clear and crisp, I decided not to use the plugs and just immerse myself in the sound quality.
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I would like to describe some of my impressions from last evening as well.
It was my 22th DT concert and I love the new album very very much, so this comes from a huge fanboy.
The bad things - and for me, there were quite a few... I really want to be honest:
I was sitting up on the balcony, which was nearly the height of the lights on the stage. And this was too high. The sound up there was muddy, way too much treble. Nearly no bass drum at all, at least no defined bass drum. The major problem for me and my friend was, that JLB was high up in the mix, and again with way too much high frequencies. And according to our perception, he had a real bad evening, being off pitch in the higher range really really often. More often than on the last couple of concerts I have seen him. Dont get me wrong, I love James, but yesterday his performance made the overall impression suffer really bad for us.
Another point: The band tried to connect with the audience quite often - James tried to make us sing along, JP was doing his fist up thing... but somehow the audience didnt feel it yesterday. The band made a conscious decision to tour seated places - and that is the result of this decision. It was my first seated DT concert and it was just not working for me.
They made quite a few mistakes, more then I have ever seen during one DT concert. I think this will improve as the tour keeps going. In MoB there was one moment where I think James started singing too early and they nearly had to stop because everybody was confused. However Mangini saved them.
Some of the images are a bit ... odd. The characters can only twinkle with their eyes, thats the only movement they do...
It was odd for me seeing them leaving the stage so often. Normally it is just James leaving for an instrumental section. But this time? On - off - on - off... Myung was off stage nearly half the concert.......
And the last point: For me too many sections and instruments were played playback. For instance the dialogue singing in Ravenskill: James is singing Faythes part, the men that answers is playback... Also JR could have also played more parts live for my taste...
The positive things:
The show is the best they have ever put on stage. It was great to see the Astonishing live with this huge show. The lights and the video show for most parts were amazing!
Mangini is incredible to see live. Whoever says he is a robot and all this stuff knows nothing about drumming. I am a drummer myself, and now I can really appreciate his work on this CD. There are so many things going on you dont notice on the record... The roll part in the final song Astonishing is - for me - the most complex drum thing I have ever seen in DT. Two different rolls on two snare drums at the same time. You just cannot learn to do this...
I am sure some of you will disagree on some of my points - but hey - thats fine...
However, I was happy that we took the trip from Hamburg to Amsterdam!
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Here is a Dutch review of monday, which has some professional photos:https://www.metalfan.nl/concertreviews.php?id=934 (https://www.metalfan.nl/concertreviews.php?id=934)
And here is the facebook link with more pictures: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153570206419302.1073741869.206916209301&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153570206419302.1073741869.206916209301&type=3)
I would like to describe some of my impressions from last evening as well.
It was my 22th DT concert and I love the new album very very much, so this comes from a huge fanboy.
The bad things - and for me, there were quite a few... I really want to be honest:
I was sitting up on the balcony, which was nearly the height of the lights on the stage. And this was too high. The sound up there was muddy, way too much treble. Nearly no bass drum at all, at least no defined bass drum. The major problem for me and my friend was, that JLB was high up in the mix, and again with way too much high frequencies. And according to our perception, he had a real bad evening, being off pitch in the higher range really really often. More often than on the last couple of concerts I have seen him. Dont get me wrong, I love James, but yesterday his performance made the overall impression suffer really bad for us.
Another point: The band tried to connect with the audience quite often - James tried to make us sing along, JP was doing his fist up thing... but somehow the audience didnt feel it yesterday. The band made a conscious decision to tour seated places - and that is the result of this decision. It was my first seated DT concert and it was just not working for me.
They made quite a few mistakes, more then I have ever seen during one DT concert. I think this will improve as the tour keeps going. In MoB there was one moment where I think James started singing too early and they nearly had to stop because everybody was confused. However Mangini saved them.
Some of the images are a bit ... odd. The characters can only twinkle with their eyes, thats the only movement they do...
It was odd for me seeing them leaving the stage so often. Normally it is just James leaving for an instrumental section. But this time? On - off - on - off... Myung was off stage nearly half the concert.......
And the last point: For me too many sections and instruments were played playback. For instance the dialogue singing in Ravenskill: James is singing Faythes part, the men that answers is playback... Also JR could have also played more parts live for my taste...
The positive things:
The show is the best they have ever put on stage. It was great to see the Astonishing live with this huge show. The lights and the video show for most parts were amazing!
Mangini is incredible to see live. Whoever says he is a robot and all this stuff knows nothing about drumming. I am a drummer myself, and now I can really appreciate his work on this CD. There are so many things going on you dont notice on the record... The roll part in the final song Astonishing is - for me - the most complex drum thing I have ever seen in DT. Two different rolls on two snare drums at the same time. You just cannot learn to do this...
I am sure some of you will disagree on some of my points - but hey - thats fine...
However, I was happy that we took the trip from Hamburg to Amsterdam!
I agree on a lot of parts, but not all of them bother me to the same extent.
I can see that if Labrie is very high in the mix and mostly only the higher frequencies are audible, that can be really detrimental to the show. Like I said, I thought he was great last night, with some clear lesser moments here and there. But overall I could really enjoy the vocal melodies, whereas on monday he was off track in a lot of parts, no matter the range. And he sounded less convincing overall. But yeah, I noticed he had some timing issues as well and he was off pitch in some (mainly higher) parts, but overall I think his voice itself sounded great. But maybe the overall mix mainly allowing for higher frequencies made the tone of his voice more unpleasant for you as well (I know my laptop microphone makes my singing voice less pleasant by stripping away it's warmth, for example).
The band was too static and the crowd interactions were not convincing. Like seriously, they make no sense in terms of timing. It is not that the crowd wasn't into it, it was more that I didn't even know what or when to do something if he talked. But more towards the back I found the stage very immersive, so it was less apparent than on monday. But it really was a "theater" crowd, who to me seemed really pleased and involved with the show in that respect. But as someone who goes to theatershows every now and then and treated this show as such, I wasn't expecting an active crowd anyways. The band didn't do much to interact so some of James' interactions feel like an afterthought.
The band leaving the stage didn't bother me at all, as the whole show surrounding it was greatly produced. I do agree that some parts feature a bit too much playback though. Some vocal harmonies could've had more Petrucci (like the acoustic set I saw in 2011) and less studio Labriest. And they definitely could've altered the timing/ tempo of a few parts to just have James singing the whole thing instead of switching between studio and live. The evangeline part of A Better Life, for example, could be altered imo (as I often sing that part on my own just fine, be it with slightly different timing than the album).
I fully agree on Mangini in particular. I am not a drummer on anything, but that guy is a joy to look at and boy does he do some weird and complex stuff that initially seem straightforward on the studio recording. Probably the best drum performance I ever saw. So many little details and variations and the way he moves just looks like he is having the time of his life. Monday I often found myself focusing on him (and actually being annoyed at a point that Petrucci was performing a solo in front of my line of vision :lol).
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BTW, he's "James LaBriest" in the tour program :rollin
^ That's hilarious!
Great first post, and perfect English. Better than mine! :tup
About the tourbook:
When you bought the tour program in London or Amsterdam you're having a collector's item, since they are reprinting the tour program because of some spelling errors and they will change the production rehearsal pics with live pics of the first couple shows.
Source: JR
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Another review:
www.maxazine.nl/2016/dream-theaters-the-astonishing-akoestisch-is-een-geweldige-droom-die-uitkomt/
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https://www.headbangerslifestyle.com/live/280/dream-theater-amsterdam-nl-koninklijk-theater-carr%C3%A9-royal-theater-carr%C3%A9-23-february-2016
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Wow, reading these posts about the bad sound I'm even more glad that I took the ear protection with me - I almost didn't because I thought the sound would be ok in Carre. It was very good last year at the Theater Equation in a theater of similar size, though it was loud there too. I hope whoever is responsible for the sound realizes the problem and solves it soon.
It's fascinating to see how different the impressions of the show (JLB in particular) are. I spent the evening listening to a recording of the monday show I saw. I hear only few vocal mistakes in a long and challenging live show. James singing style is very particular, his sliding to the notes especially, but what he does seems intentional to me, based on his interpretation of the song. I still think he gave a fantastic performance, some parts I like even more than on the very polished sounding CD. There's more edge and bite in the harder parts live and so much feeling and warmth in the softer ones.
Listening to the bootleg I realized I like the drums much more than on the professional recording.
I agree with the comment about the characters on the screens. To me they look rather cold, they don't touch me emotionally, but the landscapes and the movements are stunning. I also think that the effect of the visuals gets lost if you sit too near to the stage or too far on the side. The semi-circular hall of Carre wasn't the best choice in that regard imo. And if the visual effects don't work the static behaviour of the band makes no sense...
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So...After letting it sink in for a day or so, here's my 2 cents (I was at the show on the 24th):
Let me just start off by saying the show was INCREDIBLE! by far the best concert I've been to in terms of the overall show.
My seat was pretty close to the stage (row 11), but unfortunately, in the seat in front of me sat a tall guy, which meant I had to keep moving my head left (if in a particular moment i wanted to watch JR and JM) and right (If I wanted to see JLB, MM and JP rockin'). It didn't take away from my overall experience, but it was just one of those time when I wish i was a bit taller :-\
The sound was amazing from where I was sitting. All the people saying that the sound was bad, must have gone to different show, or sat a different place. I enjoyed the sound very very much.
The video show was very immersive, it really seems like they put a lot of thought in to it, and it made the show very engaging and entertaining.
I also really liked that JP seemed to be a bit nervous (but not too much), as if it was one of his first concerts ever, I think it shows how important this tour is for him, and I loved that I was able to witness that.
On to the Performance itself:
MM is a BEAST! drums have always been the less attractive part in DT for me (not because they're not great, I just don't care THAT much if they played that fill or that fill), but for some reason I couldn't take my eyes off of him for a long portion of the show. Even though that's not the first time I saw him play, I was struck at how amazing he played.
JM and JR have been solid as always, although I do feel (as someone already pointed out in this thread or the London one) that JR could've relied less on playback, and play more live.
And that leads me to the most (possibly only) disappointing part of the evening - JLB.
being a singer myself, it makes sense that i would pay more attention to the vocals. before I get into that, I want to clarify that I love JLB, and that the thing i loved the most about TA is that finally, for the first time since IAW, JLB is again the star of the show.
Unfortunately, on this particular night (and all the previous ones, apparently) he was really struggling. At times it seemed like there must be something wrong with his monitors, since he was completely off key in many spots, and even whole passages. He did nail a couple of the really tough notes in Act 2 (nice surprise, maybe he saved his strength?), but overall his performance was a bit underwhelming, and it kinda detracted from my experience.
The crowd was a bit reserved, to say the least. There was a moment in ONW where JLB literally begged the crowd to stand up and start moving, but it was very awkward because nobody really knew what is "right" to do in that situation. I wanted to stand up at that moment so bad, but nobody seemed to share my urge so I stayed put :lol
Overall it was an amazing show, and I am sad that I won't be able to watch it again towards the end of the tour.
Hopefully a DVD will come out and I'll be able to watch it in all its glory.
Oh and one funny/weird thing about the videos - In Ravenskill, when Faythe asks "Where can I find this man?", on the screen appeared the picture of Gabriel.
that was hilarious to me, since even on the track description website it says that she was looking for Arhys, not Gabriel. I have no idea how JP didn't spot that before they approved the videos.
Really makes you wonder how was the approval process like for these videos.
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https://www.facebook.com/Jslphotoart/
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Oh and one funny/weird thing about the videos - In Ravenskill, when Faythe asks "Where can I find this man?", on the screen appeared the picture of Gabriel.
that was hilarious to me, since even on the track description website it says that she was looking for Arhys, not Gabriel. I have no idea how JP didn't spot that before they approved the videos.
Really makes you wonder how was the approval process like for these videos.
Nice catch! There are a few other bits of video about which we have been talking about. And so cool you enjoyed the show!