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DT the League 2015 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=42658.0
DT the League 2014 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=39921.0
DT the League 2013 - https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34282.0
It's time to make preparations for the next year of the league.
It seems that the majority preferred the Division format, so we'll be doing that again. Promotions for the top 4 from Division 2 and Division 3. Demotions for the bottom 4 from each division.
There will be a survivor for the songs that weren't involved in the league last year. Joining them will be the 4 songs that were demoted from Division 3. This survivor will begin on or around November 1st and will end when there are only 4 songs remaining. These songs will be promoted to Division 3. The song list is as follows. If you feel that a song not included should be added, please let me know.
OUTSIDERS
Another Won
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Burning My Soul
Cover My Eyes
Don’t Look Past Me
Enigma Machine (Demoted from Division 3)
Just Let Me Breathe (Demoted from Division 3)
Light Fuse and Get Away
Never Enough (Demoted from Division 3)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
Prophets of War
Raw Dog
Regression
A Rite of Passage (Demoted from Division 3)
Speak to Me
Status Seeker
Take Away My Pain
The Way It Used to Be
Through My Words
You Not Me
You Or Me
Division 3 Songs for 2016
1. Afterlife (Demoted from Division 2)
2. Along for the Ride
3. Anna Lee
4. The Answer Lies Within
5. Behind the Veil (Demoted from Division 2)
6. Beneath the Surface
7. The Best of Times (Demoted from Division 2)
8. Constant Motion
9. The Dark Eternal Night
10. Eve
11. False Awakening Suite
12. Far From Heaven
13. Forsaken
14. A Fortune In Lies
15. Honor Thy Father
16. I Walk Beside You
17. The Killing Hand
18. The Looking Glass
19. New Millennium
20. Only a Matter of Time
21. Raise the Knife
22. Repentance
23. The Silent Man
24. Through Her Eyes (Demoted from Division 2)
25. To Live Forever
26. Vacant
27. Wither
28. Ytse Jam
29. OUTSIDER ONE - TBD
30. OUTSIDER TWO - TBD
31. OUTSIDER THREE - TBD
32. OUTSIDER FOUR - TBD
Division 2 Songs for 2016
1. 6:00
2. Another Day
3. As I Am (2015 Division 3 Champion)
4. The Bigger Picture
5. Caught in a Web
6. The Dance of Eternity
7. The Enemy Inside
8. Erotomania
9. The Great Debate (Demoted from Division 1)
10. Hell’s Kitchen (Demoted from Division 1)
11. Hollow Years (Division 3 Fourth Place Song)
12. Innocence Faded
13. Lie
14. Lost Not Forgotten (Division 3 Third Place Song)
15. The Ministry of Lost Souls
16. A Nightmare to Remember
17. On the Backs of Angels
18. One Last Time
19. Outcry
20. Overture 1928 (Demoted from Division 1)
21. Panic Attack
22. Peruvian Skies
23. Pull Me Under (Demoted from Division 1)
24. The Root of All Evil
25. Sacrificed Sons
26. The Shattered Fortress (Division 3 Runner Up)
27. Strange déjà vu
28. Surrender to Reason
29. These Walls
30. Wait For Sleep
31. This Dying Soul
32. This is the Life
Division 1 Songs for 2016
1. Beyond This Life
2. Blind Faith
3. Breaking All Illusions (Division 1 Runner Up)
4. Bridges in the Sky
5. A Change of Seasons (Division 1 Third Place Song)
6. The Count of Tuscany
7. Disappear
8. Endless Sacrifice (Division 2 Third Place Song)
9. Fatal Tragedy
10. Finally Free
11. Home
12. The Glass Prison
13. Illumination Theory
14. In the Name of God
15. In the Presence of Enemies
16. Learning to Live (Division 1 Fourth Place Song)
17. Lifting Shadows off a Dream (Division 2 Fourth Place Song)
18. Lines in the Sand
19. Metropolis
20. The Mirror
21. Misunderstood (Division 2 Runner Up)
22. Octavarium (2015 Division 1 Champion)
23. Scarred
24. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
25. Space-Dye Vest
26. The Spirit Carries On
27. Stream of Consciousness
28. Surrounded (2015 Division 2 Champion)
29. Take the Time
30. Trial of Tears
31. Under a Glass Moon
32. Voices
The 2016 season itself will begin on or around December 14th.
Music from DT-13 will not be featured this year. After the Championships, we will have a survivor/mini-league or tournament to integrate the new songs into the various divisions for the 2017 season.
If anyone has any questions, suggestions etc. Comment below!
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Sounds good, looking forward to it!
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Light Fuse and Get Away hype!
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Looks good to me!
The only song on that list that's worse than Light Fuse and Get Away is Raw Dog.
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Good to see you're still doing it DoC! I'll be voting regularly, just like I did last year. Looking forward to this.
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Yay! DT the League lives again! I like the idea of the Outsiders Survivor forming a "prologue" to the regular season.
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How the hell is Never Enough not even on the 3° division? I'll defend it over the rest of the songs in the Outsiders group when the time comes :metal
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I reckon at least one of the demoted songs will get a reprieve and be re-promoted back into Division 3 like a yo-yo.
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Yep, that should indeed be Never Enough, easily Division 3 material for me.
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Can someone explain to me how this works? I have no clue what's going on.
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So all the DT songs are placed in divisions, decided by previous survivors. Inbetween those divisions survivors will be held, where 2 songs go up to eachother and we vote for the best, that way songs can move up a division or degrade downwards. (This is what I understood from it this year, the only time I've participated.)
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There's a 20-week 'regular season', with matchups chosen at random by DoC's schedule generator. The 16 songs in each division with the best win-loss records after that go through to that division's final tournament, which will determine its champion through a knockout tournament.
The 4 semi-finalists from Divisions 2 and 3 get promoted up to Divisions 1 and 2 respectively for the following season. The four bottom-ranked songs from each division after the regular season get relegated to the division below, with the Division 3 songs dropping into the Outsiders.
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So all the DT songs are placed in divisions, decided by previous survivors. Inbetween those divisions survivors will be held, where 2 songs go up to eachother and we vote for the best, that way songs can move up a division or degrade downwards. (This is what I understood from it this year, the only time I've participated.)
There's a 20-week 'regular season', with matchups chosen at random by DoC's random schedule generator. The 16 songs in each division with the best win-loss records after that go through to that division's final tournament, which will determine its champion through a knockout tournament.
The 4 semi-finalists from Divisions 2 and 3 get promoted up to Divisions 1 and 2 respectively for the following season. The four bottom-ranked songs from each division after the regular season get relegated to the division below, with the Division 3 songs dropping into the Outsiders.
Okay, I think I get it.
Anyway, looking forward to the season. May the best song win! :smiley:
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BAI almost got the upset win against Octavarium last time! :metal
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Octavarium comes into this on the back of two straight 100% perfect seasons. Its only defeat came in the 2013 "Semi-Finals". A formidable record.
It's also the only song with a perfect regular season record (60-0) for the entire run of DT the League. Some more songs for comparison:
A Change of Seasons - 58-2
Breaking All Illusions - 57-3
Metropolis - 56-3-1
Learning to Live - 55-5
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Octavarium comes into this on the back of two straight 100% perfect seasons. Its only defeat came in the 2013 "Semi-Finals". A formidable record.
It's also the only song with a perfect regular season record (60-0) for the entire run of DT the League. Some more songs for comparison:
A Change of Seasons - 58-2
Breaking All Illusions - 57-3
Metropolis - 56-3-1
Learning to Live - 55-5
I love seeing posts like this. Thanks for researching and sharing!
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W00t!
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I'm looking forward to it as always!! :metal
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Octavarium comes into this on the back of two straight 100% perfect seasons. Its only defeat came in the 2013 "Semi-Finals". A formidable record.
It's also the only song with a perfect regular season record (60-0) for the entire run of DT the League. Some more songs for comparison:
A Change of Seasons - 58-2
Breaking All Illusions - 57-3
Metropolis - 56-3-1
Learning to Live - 55-5
That seems about right.
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The Outsiders Survivor has begun.... https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=44871.0
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I know I'm jumping way ahead here, but I've been thinking...now we know the full tracklist for DT13 (The Astonishing), that's a maximum of 34 songs we'll need to add to the 2017 League. If they're to be spread evenly, we're talking 8.5 extra songs per division, including the Outsiders Club. Just pointing out, is all.
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Indeed. It will be quite the undertaking. We'll have to see if they're all proper songs, or if some of those tracks are interludes, Regardless... we'll do something special for The Astonishing when the time is right and get the songs in the appropriate divisions for next year.
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Octavarium comes into this on the back of two straight 100% perfect seasons. Its only defeat came in the 2013 "Semi-Finals". A formidable record.
It's also the only song with a perfect regular season record (60-0) for the entire run of DT the League. Some more songs for comparison:
A Change of Seasons - 58-2
Breaking All Illusions - 57-3
Metropolis - 56-3-1
Learning to Live - 55-5
I love seeing posts like this. Thanks for researching and sharing!
Yeah, that's pretty cool. All of those songs are much deserving of those stats. Would be nice to see BAI move into that top spot. Thanks for doing this again DoC. You do a hell of job.
:tup
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Octavarium comes into this on the back of two straight 100% perfect seasons. Its only defeat came in the 2013 "Semi-Finals". A formidable record.
It's also the only song with a perfect regular season record (60-0) for the entire run of DT the League. Some more songs for comparison:
A Change of Seasons - 58-2
Breaking All Illusions - 57-3
Metropolis - 56-3-1
Learning to Live - 55-5
I love seeing posts like this. Thanks for researching and sharing!
Yeah, that's pretty cool. All of those songs are much deserving of those stats. Would be nice to see BAI move into that top spot. Thanks for doing this again DoC. You do a hell of job.
:tup
You're quite welcome. It's fun to run, and our "flagship" band deserves better than a survivor.
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Confirming that the 2016 season will begin on Monday, December 14th. The Outsiders Survivor will conclude on Sunday, December 13th.
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:tup
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Outsiders Club Survivor
Never Enough is enough to win the Outsiders Club Survivor!
1. Never Enough (Promoted to Division 3)
2. A Rite of Passage (Promoted to Division 3)
3. Enigma Machine (Promoted to Division 3)
4. Prophets of War (Promoted to Division 3)
5. Cover My Eyes
6. Speak to Me
7. Burning My Soul
8. Just Let Me Breathe
9. The Way It Used to Be
10. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
11. Take Away My Pain
12. Through My Words
13. Don’t Look Past Me
14. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
15. Regression
16. Another Won
17. You Not Me
18. Status Seeker
19. You Or Me
20. Light Fuse and Get Away
21. Raw Dog
The 2016 Season starts TODAY!
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:clap: Good result there.
*dramatic sports narrator voice* Breaking All Illusions finished runner-up last season. Will it be successful this time round, or will Octavarium claim a hat-trick of League titles? Or could A Change of Seasons haul its way back into the top spot? How will the newly-promoted or demoted songs fare in their respective divisions?
:caffeine: Bring it on!
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Yea baby, color me hyped! I still like BAI better than 8vm, but ACOS remains my no. 1
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Considering there are a lot of songs better than those three I would rather prefer another (thus unpredictable) winner for this new League.. But yeah I don't see that happening.. :lol
Looking forward to it though!.. Hope at least BAI gets it this time!
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Division 3, Week 1 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45246.0
1. The Best of Times defeats Never Enough 19-16
2. Beneath the Surface defeats A Rite of Passage 24-12
3. Behind the Veil defeats Enigma Machine 26-9
4. The Answer Lies Within defeats Prophets of War 20-15
5. The Looking Glass defeats Afterlife 21-14
6. New Millennium defeats The Killing Hand 19-16
7. I Walk Beside You defeats Only a Matter of Time 21-15
8. A Fortune in Lies defeats Repentance 20-16
9. The Silent Man defeats Forsaken 18-17
10. Far From Heaven defeats Through Her Eyes 19-16
11. To Live Forever defeats False Awakening Suite 23-12
12. Vacant defeats Eve 21-14
13. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Wither 21-15
14. Constant Motion defeats Ytse Jam 20-15
15. Along for the Ride defeats Anna Lee 21-14
16. Honor Thy Father defeats Raise the Knife 21-15
Division 3 Rankings after Week 1 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 2. Red songs are on pace to be demoted out of the league).
Division 3 Standings
Rank. Song Title,Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1. Behind the Veil, 1-0 (+17)
2. Beneath the Surface, 1-0 (+12)
3. To Live Forever, 1-0 (+11)
4. Along for the Ride, 1-0 (+7)
4. The Looking Glass, 1-0 (+7)
4. Vacant, 1-0 (+7)
7. The Dark Eternal Night, 1-0 (+6)
7. Honor Thy Father, 1-0 (+6)
7. I Walk Beside You, 1-0, (+6)
10. The Answer Lies Within, 1-0 (+5)
10. Constant Motion, 1-0 (+5)
12. A Fortune in Lies, 1-0 (+4)
13. The Best of Times, 1-0 (+3)
13. Far From Heaven, 1-0 (+3)
13. New Millennium, 1-0 (+3)
16. The Silent Man, 1-0 (+1)
17. Forsaken, 0-1 (-1)
18. The Killing Hand, 0-1 (-3)
18. Never Enough, 0-1 (-3)
18. Through Her Eyes, 0-1 (-3)
21. Repentance, 0-1 (-4)
22. Prophets of War, 0-1 (-5)
22. Ytse Jam, 0-1 (-5)
24. Only a Matter of Time, 0-1 (-6)
24. Raise the Knife, 0-1 (-6)
24. Wither, 0-1 (-6)
27. Afterlife, 0-1 (-7)
27. Anna Lee, 0-1 (-7)
27. Eve, 0-1 (-7)
30. False Awakening Suite, 0-1 (-11)
31. A Rite of Passage, 0-1 (-12)
32. Enigma Machine, 0-1 (-17)
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I expected EM to lose, but -17 is pretty embarassing :lol
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A Fortune in Lies defeats Repentance? I know Repentance isn't loved, but to lose to A Fortune in Lies? Wat?
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Division 2, Week 1 Results
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45256.0
1. Overture 1928 defeats A Nightmare to Remember 28-21
2. This Dying Soul defeats Caught in a Web 25-24
3. The Root of All Evil defeats Innocence Faded 31-18
4. Sacrificed Sons defeats Hollow Years 36-12
5. Hell’s Kitchen defeats The Shattered Fortress 27-22
6. 6:00 defeats One Last Time 29-20
7. Strange Déjà vu defeats The Great Debate 27-22
8. Pull Me Under defeats Lie 31-17
9. Erotomania defeats Surrender to Reason 27-21
10. Panic Attack defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 27-22
11. Peruvian Skies defeats Lost Not Forgotten 28-20
12. These Walls defeats The Enemy Inside 26-22
13. The Dance of Eternity defeats Wait For Sleep 29-19
14. The Bigger Picture defeats This is the Life 31-17
15. Another Day defeats As I Am 30-18
16. Outcry defeats On the Backs of Angels 27-21
Division 2 Rankings after Week 1 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Green songs are on pace to be promoted to Division 1. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 3).
Division 2 Standings
Rank. Song Title,Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1. Sacrificed Sons, 1-0 (+24)
2. The Bigger Picture, 1-0 (+14)
2. Pull Me Under, 1-0 (+14)
4. The Root of All Evil, 1-0 (+13)
5. Another Day, 1-0 (+12)
6. The Dance of Eternity, 1-0 (+10)
7. 6:00, 1-0 (+9)
8. Peruvian Skies, 1-0 (+8)
9. Overture 1928, 1-0 (+7)
10. Erotomania, 1-0 (+6)
10. Outcry, 1-0 (+6)
12. Hell’s Kitchen, 1-0 (+5)
12. Panic Attack, 1-0 (+5)
12. Strange Déjà vu, 1-0 (+5)
15. These Walls, 1-0 (+4)
16. This Dying Soul, 1-0 (+1)
17. Caught in a Web, 0-1 (-1)
18. The Enemy Inside, 0-1 (-4)
19. The Great Debate, 0-1 (-5)
19. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 0-1 (-5)
19. The Shattered Fortress, 0-1 (-5)
22. On the Backs of Angels, 0-1 (-6)
22. Surrender to Reason, 0-1 (-6)
24. A Nightmare to Remember, 0-1 (-7)
25. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-1 (-8)
26. One Last Time, 0-1 (-9)
27. Wait for Sleep, 0-1 (-10)
28. As I Am, 0-1 (-12)
29. Innocence Faded, 0-1 (-13)
30. Lie, 0-1 (-14)
30. This is the Life, 0-1 (-14)
32. Hollow Years, 0-1 (-24)
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After this year's tournaments wrap up, we will do something for the music from The Astonishing. This will give us time to let the music sink in, and whatever it ends up being, whether it's a mini-season, a tournament, a survivor, or a combination of sorts, it will serve to integrate the new songs/tracks into the league for 2017.
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Is it the Top 4 at the end of the regular season that get promoted up a division, or will it be the final four left standing in the championship tournaments, like last year?
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Is it the Top 4 at the end of the regular season that get promoted up a division, or will it be the final four left standing in the championship tournaments, like last year?
It will be the final four of the Division 2 & 3 Tournaments. I think that it's more fair to do it that way.
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Division 1, Week 1 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45271.0
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
2. Lines in the Sand defeats Beyond This Life 33-24
3. Scarred defeats Illumination Theory 31-27
4. Metropolis defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 51-6
5. Learning to Live defeats The Mirror 43-14
6. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Misunderstood 34-24
7. Octavarium defeats In the Name of God 48-10
8. Home defeats Space-Dye Vest 39-19
9. Finally Free defeats The Spirit Carries On 32-24
10. Fatal Tragedy defeats Stream of Consciousness 32-25
11. Surrounded defeats Endless Sacrifice 34-24
12. Take the Time defeats Disappear 40-18
13. A Change of Seasons defeats Under a Glass Moon 45-12
14. Voices defeats Bridges in the Sky 37-21
15. Breaking All Illusions defeats Blind Faith 44-14
16. Trial of Tears defeats The Count of Tuscany 30-27
Division 1 Rankings after Week 1 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. Red songs are on pace to be demoted to Division 2).
Division 1 Standings
Rank/Song Title/Wins – Losses (Vote Differential)
1. Metropolis, 1-0 (+45)
2. Octavarium, 1-0 (+38)
3. A Change of Seasons, 1-0 (+33)
4. Breaking All Illusions, 1-0 (+30)
5. Learning to Live, 1-0 (+29)
6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 1-0 (+22)
6. Take the Time, 1-0 (+22)
8. Home, 1-0 (+20)
9. Voices, 1-0 (+16)
10. In the Presence of Enemies, 1-0 (+10)
10. Surrounded, 1-0 (+10)
12. Lines in the Sand, 1-0 (+9)
13. Finally Free, 1-0 (+8)
14. Fatal Tragedy, 1-0 (+7)
15. Scarred, 1-0 (+4)
16. Trial of Tears, 1-0 (+3)
17. The Count of Tuscany, 0-1 (-3)
18. Illumination Theory, 0-1 (-4)
19. Stream of Consciousness, 0-1 (-7)
20. The Spirit Carries On, 0-1 (-8)
21. Beyond This Life, 0-1 (-9)
22. Endless Sacrifice, 0-1 (-10)
22. Misunderstood, 0-1 (-10)
24. Bridges in the Sky, 0-1 (-16)
25. Space-Dye Vest, 0-1 (-20)
26. Disappear, 0-1 (-22)
26. The Glass Prison, 0-1 (-22)
28. The Mirror, 0-1 (-29)
29. Blind Faith, 0-1 (-30)
30. Under a Glass Moon, 0-1 (-33)
31. In the Name of God, 0-1 (-38)
32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-1 (-45)
Week 2 begins on Monday. In the meantime... feel free to leave any questions, comments, or observations.
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Never seen that top 5 before in my life :neverusethis:
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Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
Lines in the Sand defeats Beyond This Life 33-24
Learning to Live defeats The Mirror 43-14
Octavarium defeats In the Name of God 48-10
Surrounded defeats Endless Sacrifice 34-24
:yeahright
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Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
Lines in the Sand defeats Beyond This Life 33-24
Surrounded defeats Endless Sacrifice 34-24
:yeahright
These three are definitely sad.
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Keeping an eye on the how the newly-promoted songs are faring, Surrounded is the only one of the promoted songs in all the divisions to win its Week 1 match.
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That SDoIT defeats TGP isn't really surprising, but that it beat it by that much definetaly is.
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Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
Lines in the Sand defeats Beyond This Life 33-24
Learning to Live defeats The Mirror 43-14
Octavarium defeats In the Name of God 48-10
Surrounded defeats Endless Sacrifice 34-24
:yeahright
I agree emphatically with all of these :lol
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Keeping an eye on the how the newly-promoted songs are faring, Surrounded is the only one of the promoted songs in all the divisions to win its Week 1 match.
And keep in mind that it beat another promoted song.
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1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 1-0 (+12)
24. The Glass Prison, 0-1 (-12)
40-18=22, not 12
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How long between two rounds? Waiting for Division 1 here!
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How long between two rounds? Waiting for Division 1 here!
Division 1 should be up later today. They usually go Monday-Tuesday-Wednesday for Divs 3, 2 & 1 respectively.
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1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Glass Prison 40-18
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 1-0 (+12)
24. The Glass Prison, 0-1 (-12)
40-18=22, not 12
Good catch. Fixed.
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I'm tweaking the tiebreakers. Think it will make more sense to go as follows:
1. Head to head result.
2. Strength of victory. (Total wins of songs defeated).
3. Strength of schedule.
4. Point differential.
I feel that by going straight to point differential, we'd be rewarding songs with easier schedules.
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Division 3, Week 2 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45318.0
1. Afterlife defeats Enigma Machine 20-17
2. Prophets of War & A Rite of Passage tied at 19-19
3. Along for the Ride defeats Never Enough 20-19
4. Ytse Jam defeats Anna Lee 23-15
5. The Answer Lies Within defeats Wither 20-18
6. Vacant defeats Behind the Veil 22-16
7. Beneath the Surface defeats To Live Forever 23-15
8. The Best of Times defeats Through Her Eyes 21-18
9. Constant Motion defeats The Silent Man 21-17
10. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Repentance 20-18
11. Raise the Knife defeats Eve22-15
12. False Awakening Suite defeats Only a Matter of Time 21-17
13. New Millennium defeats Far From Heaven 21-17
14. Forsaken defeats The Looking Glass 21-18
15. The Killing Hand defeats A Fortune in Lies 21-16
16. Honor Thy Father defeats I Walk Beside You 26-13
Division 3 Rankings after Week 2 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Along for the Ride, 2-0
1. The Answer Lies Within, 2-0
1. Beneath the Surface, 2-0
1. The Best of Times, 2-0
1. Constant Motion, 2-0
1. The Dark Eternal Night, 2-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 2-0
1. New Millennium, 2-0
1. Vacant, 2-0
10. Afterlife, 1-1
10. Behind the Veil, 1-1
10. False Awakening Suite, 1-1
10. Far From Heaven, 1-1
10. Forsaken, 1-1
10. A Fortune in Lies, 1-1
10. I Walk Beside You, 1-1
10. The Killing Hand, 1-1
10. To Live Forever, 1-1
10. The Looking Glass, 1-1
10. Raise the Knife, 1-1
10. The Silent Man, 1-1
10. Ytse Jam, 1-1
23. Prophets of War, 0-1-1
23. A Rite of Passage, 0-1-1
25. Anna Lee, 0-2
25. Enigma Machine, 0-2
25. Eve, 0-2
25. Never Enough, 0-2
25. Only a Matter of Time, 0-2
25. Repentance, 0-2
25. Through Her Eyes, 0-2
25. Wither, 0-2
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Division 2, Week 2 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45323.0
1. This Dying Soul defeats 6:00 17-15
2. Wait for Sleep defeats This is the Life 17-14
3. Another Day defeats These Walls 21-12
4. As I Am defeats Surrender to Reason 17-15
5. Strange Déjà vu defeats The Bigger Picture 21-10
6. Caught in a Web defeats The Shattered Fortress 18-14
7. Sacrificed Sons defeats The Dance of Eternity 20-11
8. The Root of All Evil defeats The Enemy Inside 18-12
9. Erotomania defeats Pull Me Under 16-15
10. The Great Debate defeats Peruvian Skies 20-12
11. Hell’s Kitchen & Panic Attack tied at 16-16
12. Overture 1928 defeats Hollow Years 26-5
13. Outcry defeats Innocence Faded 20-11
14. Lie defeats One Last Time 19-12
15. On the Backs of Angels defeats Lost Not Forgotten 22-9
16. A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-15
Division 2 Rankings after Week 2 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 2-0
1. Erotomania, 2-0
1. Outcry, 2-0
1. Overture 1928, 2-0
1. The Root of All Evil, 2-0
1. Sacrificed Sons, 2-0
1. Strange Déjà vu, 2-0
1. This Dying Soul, 2-0
9. Hell’s Kitchen, 1-0-1
9. Panic Attack, 1-0-1
11. 6:00, 1-1
11. As I Am, 1-1
11. The Bigger Picture, 1-1
11. Caught in a Web, 1-1
11. The Dance of Eternity, 1-1
11. The Great Debate, 1-1
11. Lie, 1-1
11. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-1
11. On the Backs of Angels, 1-1
11. Peruvian Skies, 1-1
11. Pull Me Under, 1-1
11. Wait for Sleep, 1-1
11. These Walls, 1-1
24. The Enemy Inside, 0-2
24. Hollow Years, 0-2
24. Innocence Faded, 0-2
24. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-2
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 0-2
24. One Last Time, 0-2
24. The Shattered Fortress, 0-2
24. Surrender to Reason, 0-2
24. This is the Life, 0-2
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This is the Life :'( :'(
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Division 1, Week 2 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45330.0
1. Under a Glass Moon defeats Beyond This Life 15-13
2. Voices defeats Trial of Tears 17-11
3. Take the Time defeats Blind Faith 19-9
4. Breaking All Illusions defeats Surrounded 19-10
5. Bridges in the Sky defeats Stream of Consciousness 15-13
6. A Change of Seasons defeats The Spirit Carries On 22-6
7. The Count of Tuscany defeats Space-Dye Vest 20-9
8. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Disappear 21-8
9. Scarred defeats Endless Sacrifice 19-9
10. Octavaium defeats Fatal Tragedy 25-4
11. Finally Free defeats Misunderstood
12. Home defeats The Mirror 15-13
13. Metropolis defeats The Glass Prison 24-5
14. Illumination Theory defeats Lines in the Sand 17-11
15. In the Name of God defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 21-8
16. Learning to Live defeats In the Presence of Enemies 22-7
Division 1 Rankings after Week 2 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 2-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 2-0
1. Finally Free, 2-0
1. Home, 2-0
1. Learning to Live, 2-0
1. Metropolis, 2-0
1. Octavarium, 2-0
1. Scarred, 2-0
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 2-0
1. Take the Time, 2-0
1. Voices, 2-0
12. Bridges in the Sky, 1-1
12. The Count of Tuscany, 1-1
12. Fatal Tragedy, 1-1
12. Illumination Theory, 1-1
12. In the Name of God, 1-1
12. In the Presence of Enemies, 1-1
12. Lines in the Sand, 1-1
12. Surrounded, 1-1
12. Trial of Tears, 1-1
12. Under a Glass Moon, 1-1
22. Beyond This Life, 0-2
22. Blind Faith, 0-2
22. Disappear, 0-2
22. Endless Sacrifice, 0-2
22. The Glass Prison, 0-2
22. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-2
22. The Mirror, 0-2
22. Misunderstood, 0-2
22. Space-Dye Vest, 0-2
22. The Spirit Carries On, 0-2
22. Stream of Consciousness, 0-2
Week 3 begins tomorrow.
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11. Finally Free defeats Misunderstood
???
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Division 3, Week 3 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45371.0
1. Afterlife defeats Eve 17-10
2. The Dark Eternal Night defeats False Awakening Suite 16-13
3. Far From Heaven defeats Constant Motion 16-12
4. The Best of Times defeats Forsaken 16-13
5. Beneath the Surface defeats A Fortune in Lies 20-8
6. Honor Thy Father defeats Behind the Veil 17-12
7. I Walk Beside You defeats The Answer Lies Within 16-13
8. The Killing Hand defeats Anna Lee 19-8
9. The Looking Glass defeats Along For the Ride 18-10
10. New Millennium defeats Prophets of War 18-11
11. Only a Matter of Time defeats Enigma Machine 14-12
12. Raise the Knife defeats A Rite of Passage 18-11
13. Never Enough defeats Repentance 15-14
14. The Silent Man defeats Ytse Jam 16-11
15. Wither defeats Through Her Eyes 21-7
16. Vacant defeats To Live Forever 14-13
Division 3 Rankings after Week 3 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 3-0
1. The Best of Times, 3-0
1. The Dark Eternal Night, 3-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 3-0
1. New Millennium, 3-0
1. Vacant, 3-0
7. Afterlife, 2-1
7. Along for the Ride, 2-1
7. The Answer Lies Within, 2-1
7. Constant Motion, 2-1
7. Far From Heaven, 2-1
7. I Walk Beside You, 2-1
7. The Killing Hand, 2-1
7. The Looking Glass, 2-1
7. Raise the Knife, 2-1
7. The Silent Man, 2-1
17. Behind the Veil, 1-2
17. Eve, 1-2
17. False Awakening Suite, 1-2
17. Forsaken, 1-2
17. A Fortune in Lies, 1-2
17. Never Enough, 1-2
17. Only a Matter of Time, 1-2
17. To Live Forever, 1-2
17. Wither, 1-2
17. Ytse Jam, 1-2
27. Prophets of War, 0-2-1
27. A Rite of Passage, 0-2-1
29. Anna Lee, 0-3
29. Enigma Machine, 0-3
29. Repentance, 0-3
29. Through Her Eyes, 0-3
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Division 2, Week 3 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45383.0
1. Hell’s Kitchen defeats 6:00 16-13
2. The Great Debate defeats Hollow Years 23-6
3. Erotomania defeats Innocence Faded 17-11
4. Lie defeats The Enemy Inside 16-13
5. The Dance of Eternity defeats Lost Not Forgotten 16-12
6. Caught in a Web defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 16-13
7. The Bigger Picture defeats A Nightmare to Remember 17-12
8. On the Backs of Angels defeats As I Am 15-14
9. Another Day defeats One Last Time 16-11
10. This is the Life defeats Outcry 16-12
11. This Dying Soul defeats Overture 1928 15-14
12. Wait for Sleep defeats Panic Attack 16-13
13. These Walls defeats Peruvian Skies 18-11
14. Pull Me Under defeats Surrender to Reason 18-10
15. Sacrificed Sons defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-9
16. The Root of All Evil defeats Strange Déjà vu 15-14
Division 2 Rankings after Week 3 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 3-0
1. Erotomania, 3-0
1. The Root of All Evil, 3-0
1. Sacrificed Sons, 3-0
1. This Dying Soul, 3-0
6. Hell’s Kitchen, 2-0-1
7. The Bigger Picture, 2-1
7. Caught in a Web, 2-1
7. The Dance of Eternity, 2-1
7. The Great Debate, 2-1
7. Lie, 2-1
7. On the Backs of Angels, 2-1
7. Outcry, 2-1
7. Overture 1928, 2-1
7. Pull Me Under, 2-1
7. Strange Déjà vu, 2-1
7. These Walls, 2-1
7. Wait for Sleep, 2-1
19. Panic Attack, 1-1-1
20. 6:00, 1-2
20. As I Am, 1-2
20. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-2
20. Peruvian Skies, 1-2
20. This is the Life, 1-2
25. The Enemy Inside, 0-3
25. Hollow Years, 0-3
25. Innocence Faded, 0-3
25. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-3
25. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 0-3
25. One Last Time, 0-3
25. The Shattered Fortress, 0-3
25. Surrender to Reason, 0-3
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The clobbering of Surrender to Reason is baffling me.
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This is the Life beating Outcry put a big smile on my face :biggrin:
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Division 1, Week 3 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45392.0
1. Finally Free defeats Beyond This Life 14-7
2. Home defeats Fatal Tragedy 16-6
3. The Glass Prison defeats Endless Sacrifice 12-11
4. Illumination Theory defeats Disappear 14-9
5. In the Name of God defeats The Count of Tuscany 12-11
6. A Change of Seasons defeats In the Presence of Enemies 18-5
7. Learning to Live defeats Bridges in the Sky 18-5
8. Breaking All Illusions defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-4
9. Lines in the Sand defeats Blind Faith 13-10
10. The Mirror & Under a Glass Moon tied at 11-11
11. Trial of Tears defeats Misunderstood 13-10
12. Octavarium defeats Take the Time 20-3
13. Scarred defeats Surrounded 15-7
14. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Stream of Consciousness 15-7
15. The Spirit Carries On defeats Space-Dye Vest 15-8
16. Metropolis defeats Voices 16-6
Division 1 Rankings after Week 3 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 3-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 3-0
1. Finally Free, 3-0
1. Home, 3-0
1. Learning to Live, 3-0
1. Metropolis, 3-0
1. Octavarium, 3-0
1. Scarred, 3-0
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 3-0
10. Illumination Theory, 2-1
10. In the Name of God, 2-1
10. Lines in the Sand, 2-1
10. Take the Time, 2-1
10. Trial of Tears, 2-1
10. Voices, 2-1
16. Under a Glass Moon, 1-1-1
17. Bridges in the Sky, 1-2
17. The Count of Tuscany, 1-2
17. Fatal Tragedy, 1-2
17. The Glass Prison, 1-2
17. In the Presence of Enemies, 1-2
17. The Spirit Carries On, 1-2
17. Surrounded, 1-2
24. The Mirror, 0-2-1
25. Beyond This Life, 0-3
25. Blind Faith, 0-3
25. Disappear, 0-3
25. Endless Sacrifice, 0-3
25. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-3
25. Misunderstood, 0-3
25. Space-Dye Vest, 0-3
25. Stream of Consciousness, 0-3
Week 4 begins today.
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For a song that was in Division 2 last season, Through Her Eyes (0-3) is having a dismal start to life in the lower division.
In other Division 3 news, Never Enough (1-2) becomes the first song from the Outsiders Club to clock up a win this season.
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For a song that was in Division 2 last season, Through Her Eyes (0-3) is having a dismal start to life in the lower division.
In other Division 3 news, Never Enough (1-2) becomes the first song from the Outsiders Club to clock up a win this season.
But have in mind that NE was demoted from Division 3 where it had won 6 times, so I think is not very surprising.. Anyway though, thanks for this kind of stats!.. :tup
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Division 3, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45429.0
1. Afterlife defeats Along for the Ride 16-14
2. Anna Lee defeats Prophets of War 16-15
3. Enigma Machine defeats The Answer Lies Within 16-15
4. Behind the Veil defeats A Rite of Passage 20-10
5. Beneath the Surface defeats Never Enough 17-13
6. The Best of Times defeats Ytse Jam 19-12
7. Constant Motion & Wither tied at 15-15
8. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Vacant 17-13
9. To Live Forever defeats Eve 16-13
10. False Awakening Suite & Through Her Eyes tied at 15-15
11. The Silent Man defeats Far From Heaven 18-11
12. Forsaken defeats Repentance 19-12
13. Raise the Knife defeats A Fortune in Lies 21-9
14. Honor Thy Father defeats Only a Matter of Time 20-11
15. New Millennium defeats I Walk Beside You 21-10
16. The Killing Hand defeats The Looking Glass 17-13
Division 3 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 4-0
1. The Best of Times, 4-0
1. The Dark Eternal Night, 4-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 4-0
1. New Millennium, 4-0
6. Afterlife, 3-1
6. The Killing Hand, 3-1
6. Raise the Knife, 3-1
6. The Silent Man, 3-1
6. Vacant, 3-1
11. Constant Motion, 2-1-1
12. Along for the Ride, 2-2
12. The Answer Lies Within, 2-2
12. Far From Heaven, 2-2
12. Forsaken, 2-2
12. I Walk Beside You, 2-2
12. The Looking Glass, 2-2
12. Behind the Veil, 2-2
12. To Live Forever, 2-2
20. False Awakening Suite, 1-2-1
20. Wither, 1-2-1
22. Anna Lee, 1-3
22. Enigma Machine, 1-3
22. Eve, 1-3
22. A Fortune in Lies, 1-3
22. Never Enough, 1-3
22. Only a Matter of Time, 1-3
22. Ytse Jam, 1-3
29. Prophets of War, 0-3-1
29. A Rite of Passage, 0-3-1
29. Through Her Eyes, 0-3-1
32. Repentance, 0-4
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That's disappointing. Repentance does not deserve to be bottom of the League. :'(
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Division 2, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45444.0
1. Another Day Defeats 6:00 15-10
2. As I Am defeats This is the Life 14-12
3. The Bigger Picture & This Dying Soul tied at 13-13
4. Caught in a Web & Wait for Sleep tied at 13-13
5. The Dance of Eternity & These Walls tied at 13-13
6. Surrender to Reason defeats The Enemy Inside 15-11
7. Strange Déjà vu defeats Erotomania 15-10
8. The Great Debate defeats The Shattered Fortress 19-7
9. The Root of All Evil defeats Hollow Years 19-7
10. Pull Me Under defeats Innocence Faded 18-7
11. Peruvian Skies defeats Lie 14-12
12. Panic Attack defeats Lost Not Forgotten 18-8
13. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Overture 1928 14-12
14. Outcry defeats A Nightmare to Remember 14-12
15. On the Backs of Angels defeats One Last Time 18-7
16. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Sacrificed Sons 13-11
Division 2 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 4-0
1. The Root of All Evil, 4-0
3. This Dying Soul, 3-0-1
3. Hell’s Kitchen, 3-0-1
5. Erotomania, 3-1
5. The Great Debate, 3-1
5. On the Backs of Angels, 3-1
5. Outcry, 3-1
5. Pull Me Under, 3-1
5. Sacrificed Sons, 3-1
5. Strange Déjà vu, 3-1
12. The Bigger Picture, 2-1-1
12. Caught in a Web, 2-1-1
12. The Dance of Eternity, 2-1-1
12. Panic Attack, 2-1-1
12. These Walls, 2-1-1
12. Wait for Sleep, 2-1-1
18. As I Am, 2-2
18. Lie, 2-2
18. Overture 1928, 2-2
18. Peruvian Skies, 2-2
22. 6:00, 1-3
22. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-3
22. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-3
22. Surrender to Reason, 1-3
22. This is the Life, 1-3
27. The Enemy Inside, 0-4
27. Hollow Years, 0-4
27. Innocence Faded, 0-4
27. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-4
27. One Last Time, 0-4
27. The Shattered Fortress, 0-4
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3 tied matches? :o
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Division 1, Week 4 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45455.0
1. Beyond This Life defeats Blind Faith 18-11
2. Under a Glass Moon defeats Bridges in the Sky 20-11
3. Surrounded defeats Disappear 21-10
4. Endless Sacrifice defeats Stream of Consciousness 21-10
5. Fatal Tragedy & The Spirit Carries On tied at 15-15
6. Finally Free defeats Space-Dye Vest 22-9
7. Scarred defeats The Glass Prison 16-15
8. Octavarium defeats Illumination Theory 22-9
9. In the Name of God defeats Misunderstood 18-13
10. In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Mirror 16-15
11. Lines in the Sand defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 21-9
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Home 18-12
13. Take the Time defeats The Count of Tuscany 16-14
14. Breaking All Illusions defeats Voices 22-9
15. A Change of Seasons defeats Trial of Tears 23-7
16. Metropolis defeats Learning to Live 17-13
Division 1 Rankings after Week 4 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 4-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 4-0
1. Finally Free, 4-0
1. Metropolis, 4-0
1. Octavarium, 4-0
1. Scarred, 4-0
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 4-0
8. Home, 3-1
8. In the Name of God, 3-1
8. Learning to Live, 3-1
8. Lines in the Sand, 3-1
8. Take the Time, 3-1
13. Under a Glass Moon, 2-1-1
14. Illumination Theory, 2-2
14. In the Presence of Enemies, 2-2
14. Surrounded, 2-2
14. Trial of Tears, 2-2
14. Voices, 2-2
19. Fatal Tragedy, 1-2-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 1-2-1
21. Beyond This Life, 1-3
21. Bridges in the Sky, 1-3
21. The Count of Tuscany, 1-3
21. Endless Sacrifice, 1-3
21. The Glass Prison, 1-3
26. The Mirror, 0-3-1
27. Blind Faith, 0-4
27. Disappear, 0-4
27. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-4
27. Misunderstood, 0-4
27. Space-Dye Vest, 0-4
27. Stream of Consciousness, 0-4
Week 5 begins on Monday.
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Interesting that after just 4 weeks, only 4 songs are winless in Division 3, and three of those have a tie to their name. At this early stage, I thought there might have been more. Maybe we're in for a closely-fought season...
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Division 3, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45497.0
1. A Fortune in Lies defeats Prophets of War 13-9
2. I Walk Beside You defeats A Rite of Passage 16-7
3. Through Her Eyes defeats Repentance 12-11
4. Raise the Knife defeats To Live Forever 12-9
5. Vacant defeats Only a Matter of Time 13-9
6. New Millennium defeats Wither 14-8
7. The Looking Glass defeats Ytse Jam 13-9
8. Never Enough defeats The Killing Hand 12-11
9. Honor Thy Father defeats Enigma Machine 18-4
10. Forsaken defeats Along for the Ride 14-9
11. The Silent Man defeats Afterlife 12-10
12. Anna Lee & Far From Heaven tied at 11-11
13. The Answer Lies Within defeats False Awakening Suite 13-9
14. Behind the Veil defeats Eve 16-7
15. The Best of Times defeats Constant Motion 13-10
16. Beneath the Surface defeats The Dark Eternal Night 13-10
Division 3 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 5-0
1. The Best of Times, 5-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 5-0
1. New Millennium, 5-0
5. The Dark Eternal Night, 4-1
5. Raise the Knife, 4-1
5. The Silent Man, 4-1
5. Vacant, 4-1
9. Afterlife, 3-2
9. The Answer Lies Within, 3-2
9. Behind the Veil, 3-2
9. Forsaken, 3-2
9. I Walk Beside You, 3-2
9. The Killing Hand, 3-2
9. The Looking Glass, 3-2
16. Constant Motion, 2-2-1
16. Far From Heaven, 2-2-1
18. Along for the Ride, 2-3
18. A Fortune in Lies, 2-3
18. Never Enough, 2-3
18. To Live Forever, 2-3
22. Anna Lee, 1-3-1
22. False Awakening Suite, 1-3-1
22. Wither, 1-3-1
25. Enigma Machine, 1-4
25. Eve, 1-4
25. Only a Matter of Time, 1-4
25. Ytse Jam, 1-4
29. Prophets of War, 0-4-1
29. A Rite of Passage, 0-4-1
29. Through Her Eyes, 0-4-1
32. Repentance, 0-5
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Division 2, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45510.0
1. Pull Me Under defeats 6:00 20-8
2. The Root of All Evil defeats Peruvian Skies 18-11
3. Sacrificed Sons defeats Panic Attack 16-11
4. Overture 1928 defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-9
5. Strange déjà vu defeats Outcry 17-11
6. Surrender to Reason defeats One Last Time 17-11
7. These Walls defeats On the Backs of Angels 19-10
8. Wait for Sleep defeats A Nightmare to Remember 19-10
9. This Dying Soul defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-12
10. This is the Life defeats Lost Not Forgotten 18-10
11. Another Day defeats Lie 20-8
12. As I Am defeats Innocence Faded 20-9
13. The Bigger Picture defeats Hollow Years 24-4
14. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Caught in a Web 19-10
15. Erotomania defeats The Enemy Inside 16-13
16. The Great Debate defeats The Dance of Eternity 16-13
Division 2 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 5-0
1. The Root of All Evil, 5-0
3. This Dying Soul, 4-0-1
3. Hell’s Kitchen, 4-0-1
5. Erotomania, 4-1
5. The Great Debate, 4-1
5. Pull Me Under, 4-1
5. Sacrificed Sons, 4-1
5. Strange Déjà vu, 4-1
10. The Bigger Picture, 3-1-1
10. These Walls, 3-1-1
10. Wait for Sleep, 3-1-1
13. As I Am, 3-2
13. On the Backs of Angels, 3-2
13. Outcry, 3-2
13. Overture 1928, 3-2
17. Caught in a Web, 2-2-1
17. The Dance of Eternity, 2-2-1
17. Panic Attack, 2-2-1
20. Lie, 2-3
20. Peruvian Skies, 2-3
20. Surrender to Reason, 2-3
20. This is the Life, 2-3
24. 6:00, 1-4
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-4
24. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-4
27. The Enemy Inside, 0-5
27. Hollow Years, 0-5
27. Innocence Faded, 0-5
27. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-5
27. One Last Time, 0-5
27. The Shattered Fortress, 0-5
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Division 1, Week 5 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45527.0
1. Scarred defeats Beyond This Life 20-7
2. Misunderstood defeats Space-Dye Vest 14-12
3. The Spirit Carries On defeats The Mirror 17-8
4. Metropolis defeats Stream of Consciousness 20-5
5. Lines in the Sand defeats Surrounded 13-12
6. Take the Time defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-6
7. Disappear & Endless Sacrifice tied at 13-13
8. Home defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-8
9. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Under a Glass Moon 15-11
10. In the Name of God defeats Voices 14-12
11. Illumination Theory defeats Blind Faith 19-7
12. Breaking All Illusions defeats The Glass Prison 19-7
13. The Count of Tuscany defeats Fatal Tragedy 13-12
14. Learning to Live defeats Trial of Tears 17-8
15. A Change of Seasons defeats Finally Free 17-8
16. Octavarium defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 16-10
Division 1 Rankings after Week 5 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 5-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 5-0
1. Metropolis, 5-0
1. Octavarium, 5-0
1. Scarred, 5-0
6. Finally Free, 4-1
6. Home, 4-1
6. In the Name of God, 4-1
6. Learning to Live, 4-1
6. Lines in the Sand, 4-1
6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 4-1
6. Take the Time, 4-1
13. Illumination Theory, 3-2
13. In the Presence of Enemies, 3-2
15. The Spirit Carries On, 2-2-1
15. Under a Glass Moon, 2-2-1
17. The Count of Tuscany, 2-3
17. Surrounded, 2-3
17. Trial of Tears, 2-3
17. Voices, 2-3
21. Endless Sacrifice, 1-3-1
21. Fatal Tragedy, 1-3-1
23. Beyond This Life, 1-4
23. Bridges in the Sky, 1-4
23. The Glass Prison, 1-4
23. Misunderstood, 1-4
27. Disappear, 0-4-1
27. The Mirror, 0-4-1
29. Blind Faith, 0-5
29. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-5
29. Space-Dye Vest, 0-5
29. Stream of Consciousness, 0-5
The season is a quarter way through already.
Week 6 begins on Monday.
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What a surprise. Octavarium, A Change of Seasons, Breaking All Illusions, and Metropolis are undefeated.
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A quarter of the way through the regular season, and of the 12 songs promoted up to a higher division (for fairness, I include the Outsiders Club promotees here), As I Am (Div. 2) has the best record, 3-2; in fact, the only one with a winning record at this stage of the season.
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I'm very surprised Blind Faith doesn't have at least a single win.
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I'm very surprised Blind Faith doesn't have at least a single win.
That is truly a tragedy.
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Division 3, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45579.0
1. New Millennium defeats A Rite of Passage 17-7
2. Constant Motion defeats Eve 17-7
3. The Best of Times defeats False Awakening Suite 16-8
4. Behind the Veil defeats Forsaken 13-11
5. The Answer Lies Within defeats A Fortune in Lies 12-10
6. Honor Thy Father defeats Anna Lee 21-3
7. Afterlife defeats The Dark Eternal Night 14-9
8. I Walk Beside You defeats Along For the Ride 14-9
9. The Killing Hand defeats Prophets of War 16-6
10. The Looking Glass defeats Enigma Machine 19-4
11. Never Enough defeats Only a Matter of Time 14-9
12. Raise the Knife defeats Ytse Jam 13-10
13. Wither defeats Repentance 16-7
14. The Silent Man defeats Vacant 14-9
15. Through Her Eyes defeats To Live Forever 12-11
16. Beneath the Surface defeats Far From Heaven 15-8
Division 3 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 6-0
1. The Best of Times, 6-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 6-0
1. New Millennium, 6-0
5. Raise the Knife, 5-1
5. The Silent Man, 5-1
7. Afterlife, 4-2
7. The Answer Lies Within, 4-2
7. Behind the Veil, 4-2
7. The Dark Eternal Night, 4-2
7. I Walk Beside You, 4-2
7. The Killing Hand, 4-2
7. The Looking Glass, 4-2
7. Vacant, 4-2
15. Constant Motion, 3-2-1
16. Forsaken, 3-3
16. Never Enough, 3-3
18. Far From Heaven, 2-3-1
18. Wither, 2-3-1
20. Along for the Ride, 2-4
20. A Fortune in Lies, 2-4
20. To Live Forever, 2-4
23. Anna Lee, 1-4-1
23. False Awakening Suite, 1-4-1
23. Through Her Eyes, 1-4-1
26. Enigma Machine, 1-5
26. Eve, 1-5
26. Only a Matter of Time, 1-5
26. Ytse Jam, 1-5
30. Prophets of War, 0-5-1
30. A Rite of Passage, 0-5-1
32. Repentance, 0-6
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Repentance is the only song that didn't even got a tie until now? C'mon people that song isn't all that bad.
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Repentance is the only song that didn't even got a tie until now? C'mon people that song isn't all that bad.
It just got crushed by Wither of all songs. Things do not bode well for Repentance.
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Division 2, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45591.0
1. Another Day defeats A Nightmare to Remember 18-10
2. The Enemy Inside defeats Hollow Years 19-9
3. The Dance of Eternity defeats Innocence Faded 15-12
4. Caught in a Web defeats Lie 17-11
5. The Bigger Picture defeats Lost Not Forgotten 14-13
6. As I Am defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-13
7. On the Backs of Angels defeats This is the Life 15-12
8. Erotomania defeats Hell’s Kitchen 16-11
9. The Great Debate defeats 6:00 18-10
10. One Last Time defeats This Dying Soul 15-13
11. Wait For Sleep defeats Outcry 15-12
12. These Walls defeats Overture 1928 15-13
13. Panic Attack defeats Surrender to Reason 18-10
14. Strange Déjà vu defeats Peruvian Skies 17-10
15. Pull Me Under defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-8
16. Sacrificed Sons defeats The Root of All Evil 14-13
Division 2 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. . The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 6-0
2. Erotomania, 5-1
2. The Great Debate, 5-1
2. Pull Me Under, 5-1
2. The Root of All Evil, 5-1
2. Sacrificed Sons, 5-1
2. Strange Déjà vu, 5-1
8. The Bigger Picture, 4-1-1
8. Hell’s Kitchen, 4-1-1
8. These Walls, 4-1-1
8. This Dying Soul, 4-1-1
8. Wait for Sleep, 4-1-1
13. As I Am, 4-2
13. On the Backs of Angels, 4-2
15. Caught in a Web, 3-2-1
15. The Dance of Eternity, 3-2-1
15. Panic Attack, 3-2-1
18. Outcry, 3-3
18. Overture 1928, 3-3
20. Lie, 2-4
20. Peruvian Skies, 2-4
20. Surrender to Reason, 2-4
20. This is the Life, 2-4
24. 6:00, 1-5
24. The Enemy Inside, 1-5
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-5
24. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-5
24. One Last Time, 1-5
29. Hollow Years, 0-6
29. Innocence Faded, 0-6
29. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-6
29. The Shattered Fortress, 0-6
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24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-5
24. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-5
29. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-6
This shit hurts my soul. These 3 songs are in my all-time DT top 10. Seeing them stomped out on a weekly basis by the likes of Another Day makes me :(
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Ministry of Lost Souls belongs in divsion 1, but Nightmare to Remember and Lost Not Forgotten belongs in 3. Then again, so does Another Day.
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Remembering back in the Systematic Chaos documentary days when JP commented about TMoLS. "People really don't know what's going on there."
9 years later and they still don't. :lol
Meanwhile, IT is in Div 1 because it's 19 mins long and supposedly an epic. I think it should be in div 4 by itself. :rollin
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I do think TMOLS deserves to be in Division 1. TMOLS is very near my Top 10 DT Songs, love it. ANTR is Division 2 material for me. Lost not Forgotten can go straight to the Outsiders Division though.
And Another Day is one of my favourite DT songs.
Meanwhile, IT is in Div 1 because it's 19 mins long and supposedly an epic. I think it should be in div 4 by itself. :rollin
I agree here.
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Division 1, Week 6 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45606.0
1. Beyond This Life defeats Fatal Tragedy 13-10
2. Finally Free defeats Endless Sacrifice 14-10
3. Home defeats Disappear 19-5
4. In the Name of God defeats Bridges in the Sky 15-9
5. Learning to Live defeats Blind Faith 19-5
6. Voices defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-7
7. Lines in the Sand defeats Under a Glass Moon 12-11
8. Take the Time defeats The Mirror 14-9
9. Surrounded defeats Misunderstood 15-9
10. Octavarium defeats Stream of Consciousness 20-4
11. Scarred defeats The Spirit Carries On 18-6
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Space-Dye Vest 18-6
13. The Count of Tuscany defeats The Glass Prison 13-11
14. Breaking All Illusions defeats In the Presence of Enemies 15-8
15. A Change of Seasons defeats Illumination Theory 15-9
16. Metropolis defeats Trial of Tears 17-6
Division 1 Rankings after Week 6 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 6-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 6-0
1. Metropolis, 6-0
1. Octavarium, 6-0
1. Scarred, 6-0
6. Finally Free, 5-1
6. Home, 5-1
6. In the Name of God, 5-1
6. Learning to Live, 5-1
6. Lines in the Sand, 5-1
6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 5-1
6. Take the Time, 5-1
13. The Count of Tuscany, 3-3
13. Illumination Theory, 3-3
13. In the Presence of Enemies, 3-3
13. Surrounded, 3-3
13. Voices, 3-3
18. The Spirit Carries On, 2-3-1
18. Under a Glass Moon, 2-3-1
20. Beyond This Life, 2-4
20. Trial of Tears, 2-4
22. Endless Sacrifice, 1-4-1
22. Fatal Tragedy, 1-4-1
24. Bridges in the Sky, 1-5
24. The Glass Prison, 1-5
24. Misunderstood, 1-5
27. Disappear, 0-5-1
27. The Mirror, 0-5-1
29. Blind Faith, 0-6
29. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-6
29. Space-Dye Vest, 0-6
29. Stream of Consciousness, 0-6
Week 7 begins on Monday.
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I see that Through Her Eyes finally scored its first win (just), at the 6th time of asking. That's been a big surprise to me this year, how poor a start that song has had. It was in Division 2 last year, so I would've thought it would be towards the top of the Div. 3 rankings. Could we see a song suffer consecutive demotions?
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Remembering back in the Systematic Chaos documentary days when JP commented about TMoLS. "People really don't know what's going on there."
9 years later and they still don't. :lol
Meanwhile, IT is in Div 1 because it's 19 mins long and supposedly an epic. I think it should be in div 4 by itself. :rollin
Well, maybe you don't know what's going on in IT, which has one of the most well thought-out song structures in the DT catalogue. If you think people are voting for it just because it is 19 minutes long, then you are way off base.
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If you think people are voting for it just because it is 19 minutes long, then you are way off base.
Yeah, they do it 'cause it's 22 minutes. Duh.
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If you think people are voting for it just because it is 19 minutes long, then you are way off base.
Yeah, they do it 'cause it's 22 minutes. Duh.
19 minutes. Easter Egg is a separate piece.
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Not to me. To me that's the outro of IT.
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Not to me. To me that's the outro of IT.
No. The guitar solo and the C major chord is the ending of IT. Then you have a 30-second gap of silence, then the Easter Egg starts. Most bands do this on at least one album. Going by your principle, then every hidden track, however long the silence (and I've known those gaps to be as much as 30 minutes long) is a part of the track.
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I'm not saying I'm right about this, it's just how I see it. I just care about those pieces little enough that I don't bother differentiating them since they're on the same track.
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The easter egg could've been at the beginning for all I care.
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Repentance is the only song that didn't even got a tie until now? C'mon people that song isn't all that bad.
Repentance for me it's a top division 2 or bottom division 1 song, I don't understand how it can be the last song of division 3..
A Nightmare To Remember is in my all time top 10 too.
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If you think people are voting for it just because it is 19 minutes long, then you are way off base.
Yeah, they do it 'cause it's 22 minutes. Duh.
If you look at the song structurally, though, the structure of the song, which is circular, excludes the piano outro.
Although why am I taking you seriously whenn you are using the green font. :lol
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Division 3, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45663.0
1. Forsaken defeats False Awakening Suite 16-10
2. A Fortune in Lies defeats Eve 15-10
3. Honor Thy Father defeats The Dark Eternal Night 17-9
4. Constant Motion defeats I Walk Beside You 14-11
5. Behind the Veil defeats New Millennium 13-12
6. Only a Matter of Time & The Answer Lies Within tied at 12-12
7. Raise the Knife defeats Anna Lee 14-11
8. Afterlife defeats Far From Heaven 14-11
9. Along For the Ride defeats Repentance 17-9
10. The Silent Man defeats Prophets of War 18-8
11. Enigma Machine defeats Through Her Eyes 13-12
12. A Rite of Passage defeats To Live Forever 13-12
13. Vacant defeats Never Enough 15-11
14. Wither defeats Ytse Jam 13-12
15. Beneath the Surface defeats The Looking Glass 14-11
16. The Best of Times defeats The Killing Hand 13-12
Division 3 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 7-0
1. The Best of Times, 7-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 7-0
4. New Millennium, 6-1
4. Raise the Knife, 6-1
4. The Silent Man, 6-1
7. Afterlife, 5-2
7. Behind the Veil, 5-2
7. Vacant, 5-2
10. The Answer Lies Within, 4-2-1
10. Constant Motion, 4-2-1
12. The Dark Eternal Night, 4-3
12. I Walk Beside You, 4-3
12. The Killing Hand, 4-3
12. The Looking Glass, 4-3
12. Forsaken, 4-3
17. Wither, 3-3-1
18. Along for the Ride, 3-4
18. A Fortune in Lies, 3-4
18. Never Enough, 3-4
21. Far From Heaven, 2-4-1
22. Enigma Machine, 2-5
22. To Live Forever, 2-5
24. Anna Lee, 1-5-1
24. False Awakening Suite, 1-5-1
24. Only a Matter of Time, 1-5-1
34. A Rite of Passage, 1-5-1
24. Through Her Eyes, 1-5-1
29. Eve, 1-6
29. Ytse Jam, 1-6
31. Prophets of War, 0-6-1
32. Repentance, 0-7
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Division 2, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45681.0
1. Pull Me Under defeats This is the Life 18-10
2. 6:00 defeats Innocence Faded 18-10
3. Lie defeats Hollow Years 21-8
4. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Lost Not Forgotten 15-13
5. The Great Debate defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 16-12
6. Erotomania defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-14
7. On the Backs of Angels defeats The Enemy Inside 17-12
8. The Dance of Eternity defeats One Last Time 19-8
9. Caught in a Web defeats Outcry 15-14
10. Overture 1928 defeats The Bigger Picture 16-12
11. As I Am defeats Panic Attack 19-10
12. The Root of All Evil defeats This Dying Soul 15-14
13. Sacrificed Sons & Wait For Sleep tied at 14-14
14. These Walls defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-8
15. Strange Déjà vu defeats Surrender to Reason 17-11
16. Another Day defeats Peruvian Skies 19-9
Division 2 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. . The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 7-0
2. Erotomania, 6-1
2. The Great Debate, 6-1
2. Pull Me Under, 6-1
2. The Root of All Evil, 6-1
2. Strange Déjà vu, 6-1
7. Hell’s Kitchen, 5-1-1
7. Sacrificed Sons, 5-1-1
7. These Walls, 5-1-1
10. As I Am, 5-2
10. On the Backs of Angels, 5-2
10. Wait for Sleep, 4-1-2
13. The Bigger Picture, 4-2-1
13. Caught in a Web, 4-2-1
13. The Dance of Eternity, 4-2-1
13. This Dying Soul, 4-2-1
17. Overture 1928, 4-3
18. Panic Attack, 3-3-1
19. Lie, 3-4
19. Outcry, 3-4
21. 6:00, 2-5
21. Peruvian Skies, 2-5
21. Surrender to Reason, 2-5
21. This is the Life, 2-5
25. The Enemy Inside, 1-6
25. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-6
25. A Nightmare to Remember, 1-6
25. One Last Time, 1-6
29. Hollow Years, 0-7
29. Innocence Faded, 0-7
29. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-7
29. The Shattered Fortress, 0-7
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Division 1, Week 7 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45694.0
1. Surrounded defeats Stream of Consciousness 16-9
2. Fatal Tragedy defeats In the Presence of Enemies 14-12
3. Learning to Live defeats Endless Sacrifice 18-8
4. Disappear defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-10
5. The Mirror defeats Bridges in the Sky 18-8
6. The Glass Prison defeats Beyond This Life 14-12
7. Breaking All Illusions defeats Misunderstood 15-11
8. Octavarium defeats Blind Faith 22-3
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Under a Glass Moon 19-7
10. Trial of Tears defeats Space-Dye Vest 17-9
11. Take the Time defeats The Spirit Carries On 17-8
12. Scarred defeats Voices 14-12
13. The Count of Tuscany defeats Lines in the Sand 13-12
14. Illumination Theory defeats Home 14-12
15. In the Name of God & Finally Free tied at 13-13
16. A Change of Seasons defeats Metropolis 18-8
Division 1 Rankings after Week 7 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 7-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 7-0
1. Octavarium, 7-0
1. Scarred, 7-0
5. Learning to Live, 6-1
5. Metropolis, 6-1
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 6-1
5. Take the Time, 6-1
9. Finally Free, 5-1-1
9. In the Name of God, 5-1-1
11. Home, 5-2
11. Lines in the Sand, 5-2
13. The Count of Tuscany, 4-3
13. Illumination Theory, 4-3
13. Surrounded, 4-3
16. In the Presence of Enemies, 3-4
16. Trial of Tears, 3-4
16. Voices, 3-4
19. Fatal Tragedy, 2-4-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 2-4-1
19. Under a Glass Moon, 2-4-1
22. Beyond This Life, 2-5
22. The Glass Prison, 2-5
24. Disappear, 1-5-1
24. Endless Sacrifice, 1-5-1
24. The Mirror, 1-5-1
27. Bridges in the Sky, 1-6
27. Misunderstood, 1-6
29. Blind Faith, 0-7
29. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-7
29. Space-Dye Vest, 0-7
29. Stream of Consciousness, 0-7
Week 8 begins on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 8 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45781.0
1. Far From Heaven defeats A Rite of Passage 15-14
2. Prophets of War defeats Eve 18-10
3. Honor Thy Father defeats Wither 17-12
4. I Walk Beside You defeats Vacant 15-14
5. Repentance defeats Only a Matter of Time 16-12
6. The Looking Glass defeats Through Her Eyes 16-12
7. The Killing Hand defeats To Live Forever 17-10
8. Ytse Jam & A Fortune in Lies tied at 13-13
9. Forsaken defeats Never Enough 15-13
10. False Awakening Suite defeats Enigma Machine 15-13
11. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Along For the Ride 17-12
12. Constant Motion defeats Anna Lee 18-11
13. The Answer Lies Within defeats The Best of Times 15-13
14. Raise the Knife defeats Afterlife 15-11
15. The Silent Man defeats New Millennium 15-13
16. Beneath the Surface defeats Behind the Veil 16-12
Division 3 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 8-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 8-0
1. The Best of Times, 7-1
4. Raise the Knife, 7-1
4. The Silent Man, 7-1
4. New Millennium, 6-2
10. The Answer Lies Within, 5-2-1
10. Constant Motion, 5-2-1
7. Afterlife, 5-3
7. Behind the Veil, 5-3
12. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-3
12. Forsaken, 5-3
12. I Walk Beside You, 5-3
12. The Killing Hand, 5-3
12. The Looking Glass, 5-3
7. Vacant, 5-3
21. Far From Heaven, 3-4-1
18. A Fortune in Lies, 3-4-1
17. Wither, 3-4-1
18. Along for the Ride, 3-5
18. Never Enough, 3-5
24. False Awakening Suite, 2-5-1
22. Enigma Machine, 2-6
22. To Live Forever, 2-6
24. Anna Lee, 1-6-1
24. Only a Matter of Time, 1-6-1
34. A Rite of Passage, 1-6-1
31. Prophets of War, 1-6-1
24. Through Her Eyes, 1-6-1
29. Ytse Jam, 1-6-1
29. Eve, 1-7
32. Repentance, 1-7
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Division 2, Week 8 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45681.0
1. Pull Me Under defeats Outcry 18-7
2. Panic Attack defeats 6:00 15-11
3. Overture 1928 defeats Peruvian Skies 15-10
4. The Root of All Evil defeats One Last Time 20-6
5. Sacrificed Sons defeats On the Backs of Angels 16-8
6. A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Shattered Fortress 15-10
7. Strange Déjà vu defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-10
8. Surrender to Reason defeats Lost Not Forgotten 15-10
9. Lie defeats These Walls 16-10
10. Wait For Sleep defeats Innocence Faded 13-12
11. This Dying Soul defeats Hollow Years 17-9
12. Hell’s Kitchen defeats This is the Life 16-9
13. The Bigger Picture defeats The Enemy Inside 17-8
14. The Dance of Eternity defeats Caught in a Web 13-12
15. Erotomania defeats As I Am 15-11
16. Another Day defeats The Great Debate 16-10
Division 2 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. . The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 8-0
2. Erotomania, 7-1
2. Pull Me Under, 7-1
2. The Root of All Evil, 7-1
2. Strange Déjà vu, 7-1
6. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-1-1
6. Sacrificed Sons, 6-1-1
8. The Great Debate, 6-2
8. Wait for Sleep, 5-1-2
10. The Bigger Picture, 5-2-1
10. The Dance of Eternity, 5-2-1
10. These Walls, 5-2-1
10. This Dying Soul, 5-2-1
14. As I Am, 5-3
14. On the Backs of Angels, 5-3
14. Overture 1928, 5-3
17. Caught in a Web, 4-3-1
17. Panic Attack, 4-3-1
19. Lie, 4-4
20. Outcry, 3-5
20. Surrender to Reason, 3-5
22. 6:00, 2-6
22. A Nightmare to Remember, 2-6
22. Peruvian Skies, 2-6
22. This is the Life, 2-6
26. The Enemy Inside, 1-7
26. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-7
26. One Last Time, 1-7
29. Hollow Years, 0-8
29. Innocence Faded, 0-8
29. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-8
29. The Shattered Fortress, 0-8
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Division 1, Week 8 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45828.0
1. Fatal Tragedy defeats Blind Faith 17-8
2. Beyond This Life defeats Misunderstood 15-10
3. Space-Dye Vest defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 15-10
4. Learning to Live defeats The Spirit Carries On 16-7
5. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Stream of Consciousness 14-11
6. Bridges in the Sky defeats Disappear 14-11
7. Home defeats Under a Glass Moon 16-8
8. Octavarium defeats The Mirror 19-6
9. Voices defeats Finally Free 14-10
10. Breaking All Illusions defeats Endless Sacrifice 18-7
11. Surrounded defeats In the Name of God 13-12
12. Take the Time defeats Illumination Theory 13-12
13. Trial of Tears defeats The Glass Prison 14-11
14. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Lines in the Sand 17-6
15. A Change of Seasons defeats The Count of Tuscany 14-10
16. Metropolis defeats Scarred 15-10
Division 1 Rankings after Week 8 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 8-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 8-0
1. Octavarium, 8-0
4. Learning to Live, 7-1
4. Metropolis, 7-1
4. Scarred, 7-1
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 7-1
4. Take the Time, 7-1
9. Home, 6-2
10. Finally Free, 5-2-1
10. In the Name of God, 5-2-1
12. Lines in the Sand, 5-3
12. Surrounded, 5-3
14. The Count of Tuscany, 4-4
14. Illumination Theory, 4-4
14. In the Presence of Enemies, 4-4
14. Trial of Tears, 4-4
14. Voices, 4-4
19. Fatal Tragedy, 3-4-1
20. Beyond This Life, 3-5
21. The Spirit Carries On, 2-5-1
21. Under a Glass Moon, 2-5-1
23. Bridges in the Sky, 2-6
23. The Glass Prison, 2-6
25. Disappear, 1-6-1
25. Endless Sacrifice, 1-6-1
25. The Mirror, 1-6-1
28. Misunderstood, 1-7
28. Space-Dye Vest, 1-7
30. Blind Faith, 0-8
30. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-8
30. Stream of Consciousness, 0-8
Week 9 begins on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 9 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45913.0
1. To Live Forever defeats The Looking Glass 13-11
2. New Millennium defeats Through Her Eyes 13-11
3. Constant Motion defeats The Answer Lies Within 18-7
4. The Dark Eternal Night & Anna Lee tied at 12-12
5. Along For the Ride defeats Eve 15-9
6. False Awakening Suite defeats Prophets of War 15-10
7. Far From Heaven defeats Enigma Machine 15-9
8. Forsaken defeats A Rite of Passage 17-8
9. Never Enough defeats A Fortune in Lies 14-11
10. Wither defeats I Walk Beside You 14-11
11. The Killing Hand defeats Vacant 12-11
12. The Silent Man defeats Only a Matter of Time 15-8
13. Raise the Knife defeats Repentance 14-11
14. Behind the Veil defeats The Best of Times 15-10
15. Honor Thy Father defeats Ytse Jam 13-11
16. Beneath the Surface defeats Afterlife 15-9
Division 3 Rankings after Week 9 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Beneath the Surface, 9-0
1. Honor Thy Father, 9-0
3. Raise the Knife, 8-1
3. The Silent Man, 8-1
5. The Best of Times, 7-2
5. New Millennium, 7-2
7. Constant Motion, 6-2-1
8. Behind the Veil, 6-3
8. Forsaken, 6-3
8. The Killing Hand, 6-3
11. The Answer Lies Within, 5-3-1
11. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-3-1
13. Afterlife, 5-4
13. I Walk Beside You, 5-4
13. The Looking Glass, 5-4
13. Vacant, 5-4
17. Far From Heaven, 4-4-1
17. Wither, 4-4-1
19. Along for the Ride, 4-5
19. Never Enough, 4-5
21. A Fortune in Lies, 3-5-1
21. False Awakening Suite, 3-5-1
23. To Live Forever, 3-6
24. Anna Lee, 1-6-2
24. Enigma Machine, 2-7
26. Only a Matter of Time, 1-7-1
26. Prophets of War, 1-7-1
26. A Rite of Passage, 1-7-1
26. Through Her Eyes, 1-7-1
26. Ytse Jam, 1-7-1
31. Eve, 1-8
31. Repentance, 1-8
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Division 2, Week 9 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45931.0
1. Strange Déjà vu defeats A Nightmare to Remember 17-9
2. Caught in a Web defeats The Enemy Inside 15-11
3. 6:00 defeats The Dance of Eternity 13-11
4. This Dying Soul defeats Innocence Faded 16-10
5. The Great Debate defeats As I Am 15-11
6. Wait For Sleep defeats Lie 14-11
7. Hollow Years & This is the Life tied at 12-12
8. These Walls defeats Lost Not Forgotten 16-10
9. The Ministry of Lost Souls & Surrender to Reason tied at 13-13
10. On the Backs of Angels defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-6
11. Sacrificed Sons defeats One Last Time 19-6
12. Panic Attack & Peruvian Skies tied at 13-13
13. The Root of All Evil defeats Outcry 15-11
14. The Bigger Picture defeats Erotomania 14-11
15. Overture 1928 defeats Pull Me Under 13-12
16. Another Day defeats Hell’s Kitchen 15-9
Division 2 Rankings after Week 9 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 9-0
2. The Root of All Evil, 8-1
2. Strange Déjà vu, 8-1
4. Sacrificed Sons, 7-1-1
5. Erotomania, 7-2
5. The Great Debate, 7-2
5. Pull Me Under, 7-2
5. Wait for Sleep, 6-1-2
9. The Bigger Picture, 6-2-1
9. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-2-1
9. These Walls, 6-2-1
9. This Dying Soul, 6-2-1
13. On the Backs of Angels, 6-3
13. Overture 1928, 6-3
15. Caught in a Web, 5-3-1
15. The Dance of Eternity, 5-3-1
17. As I Am, 5-4
17. Panic Attack, 4-3-2
19. Lie, 4-5
20. Surrender to Reason, 3-5-1
21. 6:00, 3-6
21. Outcry, 3-6
23. Peruvian Skies, 2-6-1
23. This is the Life, 2-6-1
25. A Nightmare to Remember, 2-7
26. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-7-1
27. The Enemy Inside, 1-8
27. One Last Time, 1-8
29. Hollow Years, 0-8-1
30. Innocence Faded, 0-9
30. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-9
30. The Shattered Fortress, 0-9
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Division 1, Week 9 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45950.0
1. The Glass Prison defeats Under a Glass Moon 19-11
2. Finally Free defeats Blind Faith 16-13
3. A Change of Seasons defeats Disappear 22-8
4. Octavarium defeats Misunderstood 20-10
5. Breaking All Illusions defeats Fatal Tragedy 21-9
6. The Count of Tuscany defeats Beyond This Life 17-12
7. Endless Sacrifice defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-14
8. Take the Time defeats In the Name of God 15-14
9. Surrounded defeats In the Presence of Enemies 20-10
10. Learning to Live defeats Stream of Consciousness 23-5
11. The Spirit Carries On defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 22-7
12. Lines in the Sand defeats Space-Dye Vest 19-11
13. Scarred defeats The Mirror 22-7
14. Illumination Theory defeats Trial of Tears 16-14
15. Voices defeats Home 15-14
16. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Metropolis 17-12
Division 1 Rankings after Week 9 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 9-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 9-0
1. Octavarium, 9-0
4. Learning to Live, 8-1
4. Scarred, 8-1
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 8-1
4. Take the Time, 8-1
8. Metropolis, 7-2
9. Finally Free, 6-2-1
10. Home, 6-3
10. Lines in the Sand, 6-3
10. Surrounded, 6-3
13. In the Name of God, 5-3-1
14. The Count of Tuscany, 5-4
14. Illumination Theory, 5-4
14. Voices, 5-4
17. In the Presence of Enemies, 4-5
17. Trial of Tears, 4-5
19. Fatal Tragedy, 3-5-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 3-5-1
21. Beyond This Life, 3-6
21. The Glass Prison, 3-6
23. Endless Sacrifice, 2-6-1
23. Under a Glass Moon, 2-6-1
25. Bridges in the Sky, 2-7
26. Disappear, 1-7-1
26. The Mirror, 1-7-1
28. Misunderstood, 1-8
28. Space-Dye Vest, 1-8
30. Blind Faith, 0-9
30. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-9
30. Stream of Consciousness, 0-9
Week 10 begins on Monday.
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
What matchup did you get most excited in?
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
What matchup did you get most excited in?
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Division 3, Week 10 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46024.0
1. The Silent Man defeats Eve 14-12
2. Along For the Ride defeats Enigma Machine 15-11
3. Anna Lee defeats A Rite of Passage 15-11
4. Never Enough defeats The Answer Lies Within 16-10
5. Behind the Veil defeats Ytse Jam 18-9
6. Beneath the Surface & Wither tied at 13-13
7. Constant Motion defeats To Live Forever 16-11
8. Through Her Eyes defeats The Dark Eternal Night 14-13
9. False Awakening Suite defeats Repentance 14-13
10. Afterlife defeats Prophets of War 18-8
11. Far From Heaven defeats Raise the Knife 14-12
12. Forsaken defeats Only a Matter of Time 15-11
13. A Fortune in Lies defeats New Millennium 13-11
14. Honor Thy Father defeats The Looking Glass 18-8
15. I Walk Beside You defeats The Killing Hand 13-12
16. The Best of Times and Vacant tied at 14-14
Division 3 Rankings after Week 10 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Honor Thy Father, 10-0
2. Beneath the Surface, 9-0-1
3. The Silent Man, 9-1
4. Raise the Knife, 8-2
5. The Best of Times, 7-2-1
5. Constant Motion, 7-2-1
7. Behind the Veil, 7-3
7. Forsaken, 7-3
7. New Millennium, 7-3
10. Afterlife, 6-4
10. I Walk Beside You, 6-4
10. The Killing Hand, 6-4
13. The Answer Lies Within, 5-4-1
13. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-4-1
13. Far From Heaven, 5-4-1
13. Vacant, 5-4-1
17. Along for the Ride, 5-5
17. The Looking Glass, 5-5
17. Never Enough, 5-5
17. Wither, 4-4-2
21. False Awakening Suite, 4-5-1
21. A Fortune in Lies, 4-5-1
23. Anna Lee, 2-6-2
23. To Live Forever, 3-7
25. Through Her Eyes, 2-7-1
26. Enigma Machine, 2-8
27. Only a Matter of Time, 1-8-1
27. Prophets of War, 1-8-1
27. A Rite of Passage, 1-8-1
27. Ytse Jam, 1-8-1
31. Eve, 1-9
31. Repentance, 1-9
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Division 2, Week 10 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46036.0
1. On the Backs of Angels defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-9
2. Caught in a Web defeats Surrender to Reason 13-11
3. Innocence Faded & Panic Attack tied at 12-12
4. Peruvian Skies defeats Hollow Years 17-6
5. These Walls defeats The Bigger Picture 13-11
6. 6:00 defeats This is the Life 14-10
7. As I Am defeats Wait For Sleep 13-11
8. Strange Déjà vu defeats The Dance of Eternity 14-9
9. The Enemy Inside defeats The Shattered Fortress 16-8
10. Pull Me Under defeats Hell’s Kitchen 12-11
11. Overture 1928 defeats Lie 13-11
12. Outcry defeats Lost Not Forgotten 13-10
13. One Last Time defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 15-9
14. Erotomania defeats Sacrificed Sons 13-10
15. Another Day defeats This Dying Soul 13-11
16. The Great Debate defeats The Root of All Evil 12-11
Division 2 Rankings after Week 10 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 10-0
2. Strange Déjà vu, 9-1
3. Erotomania, 8-2
3. The Great Debate, 8-2
3. Pull Me Under, 8-2
3. The Root of All Evil, 8-2
7. Sacrificed Sons, 7-2-1
7. These Walls, 7-2-1
9. On the Backs of Angels, 7-3
9. Overture 1928, 7-3
9. Wait for Sleep, 6-2-2
12. The Bigger Picture, 6-3-1
12. This Dying Soul, 6-3-1
12. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-3-1
12. Caught in a Web, 6-3-1
16. As I Am, 6-4
17. Panic Attack, 4-3-3
18. The Dance of Eternity, 5-4-1
19. 6:00, 4-6
19. Lie, 4-6
19. Outcry, 4-6
22. Peruvian Skies, 3-6-1
22. Surrender to Reason, 3-6-1
24. This is the Life, 2-7-1
25. The Enemy Inside, 2-8
25. A Nightmare to Remember, 2-8
25. One Last Time, 2-8
28. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-8-1
29. Hollow Years, 0-9-1
29. Innocence Faded, 0-9-1
31. Lost Not Forgotten, 0-10
31. The Shattered Fortress, 0-10
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Division 1, Week 10 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46052.0
1. A Change of Seasons defeats Surrounded 20-8
2. Under a Glass Moon defeats Blind Faith 15-14
3. Take the Time defeats Bridges in the Sky 17-11
4. The Count of Tuscany defeats Stream of Consciousness 21-7
5. The Spirit Carries On defeats Disappear 19-10
6. Voices defeats Beyond This Life 19-9
7. The Glass Prison defeats Misunderstood 18-11
8. Illumination Theory defeats The Mirror 17-12
9. Space-Dye Vest defeats Endless Sacrifice 15-14
10. Learning to Live defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 24-4
11. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Fatal Tragedy 17-11
12. Finally Free defeats Scarred 15-14
13. Octavarium defeats Home 21-8
14. Metropolis defeats In the Name of God 22-6
15. Lines in the Sand defeats In the Presence of Enemies 18-11
16. Breaking All Illusions defeats Trial of Tears 19-10
Division 1 Rankings after Week 10 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Breaking All Illusions, 10-0
1. A Change of Seasons, 10-0
1. Octavarium, 10-0
4. Learning to Live, 9-1
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 9-1
4. Take the Time, 9-1
7. Metropolis, 8-2
7. Scarred, 8-2
9. Finally Free, 7-2-1
10. Lines in the Sand, 7-3
11. The Count of Tuscany, 6-4
11. Home, 6-4
11. Illumination Theory, 6-4
11. Surrounded, 6-4
11. Voices, 6-4
16. In the Name of God, 5-4-1
17. The Spirit Carries On, 4-5-1
18. The Glass Prison, 4-6
18. In the Presence of Enemies, 4-6
18. Trial of Tears, 4-6
21. Fatal Tragedy, 3-6-1
22. Beyond This Life, 3-7
23. Endless Sacrifice, 2-7-1
23. Under a Glass Moon, 2-7-1
25. Bridges in the Sky, 2-8
25. Space-Dye Vest, 2-8
27. Disappear, 1-8-1
27. The Mirror, 1-8-1
29. Misunderstood, 1-9
30. Blind Faith, 0-10
30. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-10
30. Stream of Consciousness, 0-10
The regular season is halfway over!
Week 11 starts on Monday.
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It's halftime, and generally speaking the songs that were promoted up to a higher division for 2016 are performing as expected (ie. poorly). With the notable exceptions of Surrounded (6-4 in Div. 1) and As I Am (6-4, Div. 2). They have a good base on which to try and push for survival and quite possibly even a place in the top 16. The 5-5 Never Enough is the best performer of the Outsiders Club songs so far. Can it beat the drop this year?
Of the songs that went down to a lower division, Through Her Eyes is having a stinker in Division 3. Just 2 wins to its name, and 7 losses.
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
What matchup did you get most excited in?
???
Oh because you said that you get excited when a juicy match comes up. Were there any juicy match that made you excited?
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
What matchup did you get most excited in?
???
Oh because you said that you get excited when a juicy match comes up. Were there any juicy match that made you excited?
I think that there are realistically 4 songs that have a chance of winning Division 1..... so whenever two of those face off, I get excited.
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A question for DoC, out of curiosity: How far in advance do you generate each week's matchups? Or did you do the entire season's matchups prior to it starting? (If the latter's the case, obviously you can see if there are any juicy matches coming up...)
Hi there. I generate the schedule all at once. And yes... I get excited when a juicy match is coming up.
What matchup did you get most excited in?
???
Oh because you said that you get excited when a juicy match comes up. Were there any juicy match that made you excited?
I think that there are realistically 4 songs that have a chance of winning Division 1..... so whenever two of those face off, I get excited.
Metropolis, A Change of Seasons, Octavarium, and Breaking All Illusions?
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You could add Learning to Live to that list as well. It hasn't won the League yet, but it won the last Survivor that was run.
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Yeah... I think 8VM, ACoS and BAI are the big 3. I could see LtL and maybe Metropolis winning it all..... but every other song has zero chance.
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Division 3, Week 11 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46105.0
1. A Fortune in Lies defeats False Awakening Suite 14-9
2. Vacant defeats A Rite of Passage 15-9
3. Wither defeats Never Enough 12-11
4. To Live Forever defeats Enigma Machine 15-8
5. Through Her Eyes defeats Prophets of War 15-9
6. Along For the Ride defeats The Silent Man 13-10
7. Anna Lee defeats Repentance 12-11
8. Afterlife defeats Ytse Jam 14-8
9. Raise the Knife defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-9
10. Behind the Veil defeats Only a Matter of Time 14-9
11. The Looking Glass defeats The Best of Times 12-11
12. Constant Motion defeats The Killing Hand 13-9
13. I Walk Beside You defeats The Dark Eternal Night 12-11
14. Honor Thy Father defeats Eve 16-7
15. Forsaken defeats Far From Heaven 14-10
16. Beneath the Surface defeats New Millennium 12-11
Division 3 Rankings after Week 11 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Honor Thy Father, 11-0
2. Beneath the Surface, 10-0-1
3. Raise the Knife, 9-2
3. The Silent Man, 9-2
5. Constant Motion, 8-2-1
6. Behind the Veil, 8-3
6. Forsaken, 8-3
8. The Best of Times, 7-3-1
9. Afterlife, 7-4
9. I Walk Beside You, 7-4
9. New Millennium, 7-4
12. Vacant, 6-4-1
13. Along for the Ride, 6-5
13. The Killing Hand, 6-5
13. The Looking Glass, 6-5
13. Wither, 5-4-2
17. The Answer Lies Within, 5-5-1
17. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-5-1
17. Far From Heaven, 5-5-1
27. A Fortune in Lies, 5-5-1
21. Never Enough, 5-6
22. False Awakening Suite, 4-6-1
23. Anna Lee, 3-6-2
23. To Live Forever, 4-7
25. Through Her Eyes, 3-7-1
26. Enigma Machine, 2-9
27. Only a Matter of Time, 1-9-1
27. Prophets of War, 1-9-1
27. A Rite of Passage, 1-9-1
27. Ytse Jam, 1-9-1
31. Eve, 1-10
31. Repentance, 1-10
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Division 2, Week 11 Results:
Voting Threads: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46118.0 https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46122.0
1. Pull Me Under defeats Another Day 15-12
2. The Enemy Inside defeats One Last Time 15-9
3. 6:00 defeats Surrender to Reason 15-12
4. Wait for Sleep defeats The Shattered Fortress 18-10
5. The Root of All Evil defeats This is the Life 17-11
6. As I Am & Peruvian Skies tied at 14-14
7. The Bigger Picture defeats Panic Attack 15-13
8. Caught in a Web & Overture 1928 tied at 14-14
9. Outcry defeats The Dance of Eternity 15-8
10. Erotomania defeats On the Backs of Angels 14-13
11. The Great Debate defeats A Nightmare to Remember 17-10
12. Hell’s Kitchen & The Ministry of Lost Souls tied at 14-14
13. Lost Not Forgotten defeats Hollow Years 18-9
14. Lie defeats Innocence Faded 17-10
15. Sacrificed Sons defeats This Dying Soul 20-8
16. Strange Déjà vu defeats These Walls 18-10
Division 2 Rankings after Week 11 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Another Day, 10-1
1. Strange Déjà vu, 10-1
3. Erotomania, 9-2
3. The Great Debate, 9-2
3. Pull Me Under, 9-2
3. The Root of All Evil, 9-2
7. Sacrificed Sons, 8-2-1
8. Wait for Sleep, 7-2-2
9. The Bigger Picture, 7-3-1
9. Overture 1928, 7-3-1
9. These Walls, 7-3-1
12. Caught in a Web, 6-3-2
12. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-3-2
12. On the Backs of Angels, 7-4
15. As I Am, 6-4-1
15. This Dying Soul, 6-4-1
17. The Dance of Eternity, 5-5-1
17. Panic Attack, 4-4-3
19. 6:00, 5-6
19. Lie, 5-6
19. Outcry, 5-6
22. Peruvian Skies, 3-6-2
23. Surrender to Reason, 3-7-1
24. The Enemy Inside, 3-8
25. This is the Life, 2-8-1
26. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 1-8-2
26. A Nightmare to Remember, 2-9
26. One Last Time, 2-9
39. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-10
30. Hollow Years, 0-10-1
30. Innocence Faded, 0-10-1
32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-11
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Division 1, Week 11 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46130.0
1. A Change of Seasons defeats The Mirror 16-6
2. Trial of Tears defeats The Spirit Carries On 12-10
3. Surrounded defeats Beyond This Life 15-7
4. Take the Time defeats Stream of Consciousness 20-2
5. Space-Dye Vest defeats Under a Glass Moon 12-11
6. Scarred defeats Blind Faith 17-6
7. Bridges in the Sky defeats Misunderstood 13-10
8. Lines in the Sand defeats Disappear 16-7
9. Endless Sacrifice defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 12-11
10. Learning to Live defeats Fatal Tragedy 18-4
11. Finally Free defeats In the Presence of Enemies 13-10
12. Home defeats In the Name of God 17-6
13. Illumination Theory defeats The Glass Prison 13-10
14. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Voices 12-10
15. Metropolis defeats The Count of Tuscany 18-5
16. Octavarium defeats Breaking All Illusions 13-10
Division 1 Rankings after Week 11 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. A Change of Seasons, 11-0
1. Octavarium, 11-0
3. Breaking All Illusions, 10-1
3. Learning to Live, 10-1
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 10-1
3. Take the Time, 10-1
7. Metropolis, 9-2
7. Scarred, 9-2
9. Finally Free, 8-2-1
10. Lines in the Sand, 8-3
11. Home, 7-4
11. Illumination Theory, 7-4
11. Surrounded, 7-4
14. The Count of Tuscany, 6-5
14. Voices, 6-5
16. In the Name of God, 5-5-1
17. Trial of Tears, 5-6
18. The Spirit Carries On, 4-6-1
19. The Glass Prison, 4-7
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 4-7
21. Endless Sacrifice, 3-7-1
21. Fatal Tragedy, 3-7-1
23. Beyond This Life, 3-8
23. Bridges in the Sky, 3-8
23. Space-Dye Vest, 3-8
26. Under a Glass Moon, 2-8-1
27. Disappear, 1-9-1
27. The Mirror, 1-9-1
29. Misunderstood, 1-10
30. Blind Faith, 0-11
30. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-11
30. Stream of Consciousness, 0-11
Week 12 starts on Monday.
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So BAI once again loses to Octavarium. If I may make a comparison to tennis, BAI is Andy Murray to Octavarium's Novak Djokovic. Can't seem to get past it. It's come close a few times though. Its day will surely come.
I know it's bottom of the table, but wow. Stream of Consciousness got absolutely trounced by Take the Time in Division 1 this week! Might be the closest we've had to a shutout since the Division format came in.
And it's a tie-fest in Division 2. Three of 'em!
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Division 3, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46186.0
1. Vacant defeats False Awakening Suite 13-11
2. Along For the Ride defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-10
3. The Best of Times defeats A Rite of Passage 12-10
4. Ytse Jam defeats The Dark Eternal Night 13-11
5. Afterlife defeats Anna Lee 13-11
6. Wither defeats Eve 16-8
7. To Live Forever defeats Far From Heaven 14-10
8. Behind the Veil defeats Prophets of War 20-5
9. Forsaken defeats Through Her Eyes 15-10
10. Beneath the Surface defeats Enigma Machine 18-6
11. The Silent Man defeats A Fortune in Lies 15-9
12. Honor Thy Father defeats Repentance 19-6
13. I Walk Beside You defeats Raise the Knife 16-8
14. The Killing Hand defeats Only a Matter of Time 14-8
15. The Looking Glass defeats New Millennium 13-11
16. Constant Motion defeats Never Enough 15-9
Division 3 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Honor Thy Father, 12-0
2. Beneath the Surface, 11-0-1
3. The Silent Man, 10-2
4. Constant Motion, 9-2-1
5. Behind the Veil, 9-3
5. Forsaken, 9-3
5. Raise the Knife, 9-3
8. The Best of Times, 8-3-1
9. Afterlife, 8-4
9. I Walk Beside You, 8-4
11. Vacant, 7-4-1
12. New Millennium, 7-5
12. Along for the Ride, 7-5
12. The Killing Hand, 7-5
12. The Looking Glass, 7-5
12. Wither, 6-4-2
17. The Answer Lies Within, 5-6-1
17. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-6-1
17. Far From Heaven, 5-6-1
17. A Fortune in Lies, 5-6-1
21. To Live Forever, 5-7
21. Never Enough, 5-7
23. False Awakening Suite, 4-7-1
24. Anna Lee, 3-7-2
25. Through Her Eyes, 3-8-1
26. Ytse Jam, 2-9-1
27. Enigma Machine, 2-10
28. Only a Matter of Time, 1-10-1
28. Prophets of War, 1-10-1
28. A Rite of Passage, 1-10-1
31. Eve, 1-11
31. Repentance, 1-11
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Division 2, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46194.0
1. As I Am & 6:00 tied at 15-15
2. Caught in a Web defeats This is the Life 20-10
3. The Dance of Eternity defeats This Dying Soul 17-13
4. Wait For Sleep defeats The Enemy Inside 17-12
5. The Great Debate defeats Surrender to Reason 16-14
6. Hollow Years defeats The Shattered Fortress 18-12
7. Sacrificed Sons defeats Innocence Faded 18-12
8. The Root of All Evil defeats Lie 20-10
9. Pull Me Under defeats Lost Not Forgotten 21-7
10. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Peruvian Skies 16-14
11. Panic Attack defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-14
12. Overture 1928 defeats On the Backs of Angels 22-8
13. One Last Time defeats Outcry 15-13
14. These Walls defeats Erotomania 17-13
15. Strange Déjà vu defeats Hell’s Kitchen 15-14
16. The Bigger Picture defeats Another Day 15-14
Division 2 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Strange Déjà vu, 11-1
2. Another Day, 10-2
2. The Great Debate, 10-2
2. Pull Me Under, 10-2
2. The Root of All Evil, 10-2
6. Sacrificed Sons, 9-2-1
7. Erotomania, 9-3
7. Wait for Sleep, 8-2-2
9. The Bigger Picture, 8-3-1
9. Overture 1928, 8-3-1
9. These Walls, 8-3-1
12. Caught in a Web, 7-3-2
13. As I Am, 6-4-2
13. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-4-2
13. On the Backs of Angels, 7-5
16. This Dying Soul, 6-5-1
16. The Dance of Eternity, 6-5-1
16. Panic Attack, 5-4-3
19. 6:00, 5-6-1
20. Lie, 5-7
20. Outcry, 5-7
22. Peruvian Skies, 3-7-2
23. Surrender to Reason, 3-8-1
24. The Enemy Inside, 3-9
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 2-8-2
24. One Last Time, 3-9
27. This is the Life, 2-9-1
28. A Nightmare to Remember, 2-10
29. Hollow Years, 1-10-1
30. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-11
31. Innocence Faded, 0-11-1
32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-12
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Division 1, Week 12 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46209.0
1. The Glass Prison defeats Space-Dye Vest 19-13
2. Blind Faith defeats Bridges in the Sky 19-14
3. Under a Glass Moon defeats The Count of Tuscany 16-15
4. Trial of Tears defeats Disappear 21-12
5. Take the Time defeats Endless Sacrifice 23-9
6. Surrounded defeats Fatal Tragedy 19-13
7. Finally Free defeats Stream of Consciousness 23-8
8. The Mirror defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-14
9. Breaking All Illusions defeats Beyond This Life 23-10
10. Learning to Live defeats Misunderstood 25-7
11. Home defeats The Spirit Carries On 21-11
12. Octavarium defeats In the Presence of Enemies 27-6
13. Scarred defeats In the Name of God 17-16
14. A Change of Seasons defeats Voices 26-7
15. Metropolis defeats Lines in the Sand 26-6
16. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Illumination Theory 19-14
Division 1 Rankings after Week 12 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. A Change of Seasons, 12-0
1. Octavarium, 12-0
3. Breaking All Illusions, 11-1
3. Learning to Live, 11-1
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 11-1
3. Take the Time, 11-1
7. Metropolis, 10-2
7. Scarred, 10-2
9. Finally Free, 9-2-1
10. Home, 8-4
10. Lines in the Sand, 8-4
10. Surrounded, 8-4
13. Illumination Theory, 7-5
14. The Count of Tuscany, 6-6
14. Trial of Tears, 6-6
14. Voices, 6-6
17. In the Name of God, 5-6-1
18. The Glass Prison, 5-7
19. The Spirit Carries On, 4-7-1
20. In the Presence of Enemies, 4-8
21. Endless Sacrifice, 3-8-1
21. Fatal Tragedy, 3-8-1
21. Under a Glass Moon, 3-8-1
24. Beyond This Life, 3-9
24. Bridges in the Sky, 3-9
24. Space-Dye Vest, 3-9
27. The Mirror, 2-9-1
28. Disappear, 1-10-1
29. Blind Faith, 1-11
29. Misunderstood, 1-11
31. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-12
31. Stream of Consciousness, 0-12
Week 13 starts on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46299.0
1. False Awakening Suite defeats New Millennium 12-11
2. A Rite of Passage defeats Enigma Machine 14-9
3. Along for the Ride defeats Ytse Jam 13-10
4. Forsaken defeats The Killing Hand 13-11
5. I Walk Beside You defeats A Fortune in Lies 12-10
6. The Looking Glass defeats Far From Heaven 14-9
7. Eve defeats Only a Matter of Time 12-11
8. Raise the Knife defeats The Dark Eternal Night 13-10
9. Constant Motion defeats Repentance 17-7
10. Beneath the Surface defeats Through Her Eyes 15-8
11. Behind the Veil defeats To Live Forever 16-6
12. Vacant defeats The Answer Lies Within 15-8
13. Wither defeats Anna Lee 18-5
14. Never Enough defeats Prophets of War 18-5
15. The Silent Man & The Best of Times tied at 12-12
16. Honor Thy Father defeats Afterlife 15-9
Division 3 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Honor Thy Father, 13-0
2. Beneath the Surface, 12-0-1
3. Constant Motion, 10-2-1
3. The Silent Man, 10-2-1
5. Behind the Veil, 10-3
5. Forsaken, 10-3
5. Raise the Knife, 10-3
8. The Best of Times, 8-3-2
9. I Walk Beside You, 9-4
10. Vacant, 8-4-1
11. Afterlife, 8-5
11. Along for the Ride, 8-5
11. The Looking Glass, 8-5
11. Wither, 7-4-2
15. New Millennium, 7-6
15. The Killing Hand, 7-6
17. Never Enough, 6-7
18. The Answer Lies Within, 5-7-1
18. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-7-1
18. False Awakening Suite, 5-7-1
18. Far From Heaven, 5-7-1
18. A Fortune in Lies, 5-7-1
23. To Live Forever, 5-8
24. Anna Lee, 3-8-2
25. Through Her Eyes, 3-9-1
26. A Rite of Passage, 2-10-1
26. Ytse Jam, 2-10-1
28. Enigma Machine, 2-11
28. Eve, 2-11
30. Only a Matter of Time, 1-11-1
30. Prophets of War, 1-11-1
32. Repentance, 1-12
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Division 2, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46325.0
1. Pull Me Under defeats The Enemy Inside 18-3
2. The Great Debate defeats Panic Attack 12-8
3. On the Backs of Angels defeats Lie 12-9
4. 6:00 defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 11-10
5. A Nightmare to Remember defeats Lost Not Forgotten 13-7
6. Innocence Faded defeats One Last Time 11-10
7. Outcry defeats Hollow Years 14-7
8. Erotomania defeats Peruvian Skies 12-9
9. The Root of All Evil defeats The Dance of Eternity 13-7
10. Sacrificed Sons defeats Caught in a Web 14-7
11. The Bigger Picture defeats The Shattered Fortress 12-9
12. Strange Déjà vu defeats As I Am 16-5
13. Surrender to Reason defeats Another Day 12-9
14. These Walls defeats This is the Life 12-9
15. This Dying Soul defeats Wait For Sleep 13-8
16. Overture 1928 defeats Hell’s Kitchen 15-6
Division 2 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. Strange Déjà vu, 12-1
2. The Great Debate, 11-2
2. Pull Me Under, 11-2
2. The Root of All Evil, 11-2
5. Sacrificed Sons, 10-2-1
6. Another Day, 10-3
6. Erotomania, 10-3
8. The Bigger Picture, 9-3-1
8. Overture 1928, 9-3-1
8. These Walls, 9-3-1
11. Wait for Sleep, 8-3-2
12. Caught in a Web, 7-4-2
12. On the Backs of Angels, 8-5
14. This Dying Soul, 7-5-1
15. As I Am, 6-5-2
15. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-5-2
17. 6:00, 6-6-1
17. The Dance of Eternity, 6-6-1
17. Panic Attack, 5-5-3
20. Outcry, 6-7
21. Lie, 5-8
22. Surrender to Reason, 4-8-1
23. Peruvian Skies, 3-8-2
24. The Enemy Inside, 3-10
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 2-9-2
24. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-10
24. One Last Time, 3-10
28. This is the Life, 2-10-1
29. Hollow Years, 1-11-1
30. Innocence Faded, 1-11-1
31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-12
32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-13
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Division 1, Week 13 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46344.0
1. A Change of Seasons defeats Space-Dye Vest 18-4
2. Octavarium defeats Endless Sacrifice 20-2
3. Illumination Theory defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 17-5
4. Finally Free defeats The Mirror 13-8
5. Fatal Tragedy defeats Misunderstood 12-10
6. Scarred defeats Disappear 15-7
7. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Beyond This Life 12-10
8. Surrounded defeats Blind Faith 13-9
9. Bridges in the Sky defeats The Spirit Carries On 13-8
10. Breaking All Illusions defeats Stream of Consciousness 18-4
11. Trial of Tears defeats Under a Glass Moon 16-5
12. The Glass Prison defeats Lines in the Sand 13-9
13. Learning to Live defeats In the Name of God 12-10
14. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats The Count of Tuscany 17-5
15. Take the Time defeats Voices 12-10
16. Metropolis defeats Home 12-9
Division 1 Rankings after Week 13 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
1. A Change of Seasons, 13-0
1. Octavarium, 13-0
3. Breaking All Illusions, 12-1
3. Learning to Live, 12-1
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 12-1
3. Take the Time, 12-1
7. Metropolis, 11-2
7. Scarred, 11-2
9. Finally Free, 10-2-1
10. Surrounded, 9-4
11. Home, 8-5
11. Illumination Theory, 8-5
11. Lines in the Sand, 8-5
14. Trial of Tears, 7-6
15. The Count of Tuscany, 6-7
15. The Glass Prison, 6-7
15. Voices, 6-7
18. In the Name of God, 5-7-1
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 5-8
20. Fatal Tragedy, 4-8-1
20. The Spirit Carries On, 4-8-1
22. Bridges in the Sky, 4-9
23. Endless Sacrifice, 3-9-1
23. Under a Glass Moon, 3-9-1
25. Beyond This Life, 3-10
25. Space-Dye Vest, 3-10
27. The Mirror, 2-10-1
28. Disappear, 1-11-1
29. Blind Faith, 1-12
29. Misunderstood, 1-12
31. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-13
31. Stream of Consciousness, 0-13
Week 14 starts on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46427.0
1. Along For the Ride defeats A Fortune in Lies 13-8
2. Beneath the Surface defeats Eve 19-3
3. Behind the Veil defeats False Awakening Suite 18-4
4. The Answer Lies Within defeats Far From Heaven 13-8
5. Forsaken defeats Anna Lee 16-6
6. Honor Thy Father defeats Prophets of War 20-3
7. I Walk Beside You defeats Enigma Machine 14-9
8. The Killing Hand defeats A Rite of Passage 14-7
9. The Looking Glass defeats Never Enough 14-9
10. New Millennium defeats Ytse Jam 11-10
11. Wither defeats Only a Matter of Time 13-9
12. Raise the Knife defeats Vacant 12-10
13. To Live Forever defeats Repentance 13-9
14. The Silent Man & Through Her Eyes Tied at 11-11
15. The Best of Times defeats The Dark Eternal Night 13-8
16. Constant Motion defeats Afterlife 14-9
Division 3 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 14-0
*2. Beneath the Surface, 13-0-1
3. Constant Motion, 11-2-1
4. Behind the Veil, 11-3
4. Forsaken, 11-3
4. Raise the Knife, 11-3
4. The Silent Man, 10-2-2
8. The Best of Times, 9-3-2
8. I Walk Beside You, 10-4
10. Along for the Ride, 9-5
10. The Looking Glass, 9-5
10. Wither, 8-4-2
13. Vacant, 8-5-1
14. Afterlife, 8-6
14. The Killing Hand, 8-6
14. New Millennium, 8-6
17. The Answer Lies Within, 6-7-1
18. Never Enough, 6-8
28. To Live Forever, 6-8
20. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-8-1
20. False Awakening Suite, 5-8-1
20. Far From Heaven, 5-8-1
20. A Fortune in Lies, 5-8-1
24. Anna Lee, 3-9-2
24. Through Her Eyes, 3-9-2
26. A Rite of Passage, 2-11-1
26. Ytse Jam, 2-11-1
28. Enigma Machine, 2-12
28. Eve, 2-12
X30. Only a Matter of Time, 1-12-1
X30. Prophets of War, 1-12-1
X32. Repentance, 1-13
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Division 2, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46441.0
1. This Dying Soul defeats A Nightmare to Remember 16-15
2. Wait For Sleep defeats On the Backs of Angels 17-13
3. Another Day defeats Lost Not Forgotten 18-12
4. Erotomania defeats 6:00 16-15
5. The Enemy Inside defeats The Great Debate 17-14
6. The Dance of Eternity defeats Hell’s Kitchen 16-14
7. Caught in a Web defeats Hollow Years 22-9
8. The Bigger Picture defeats Innocence Faded 21-9
9. As I Am defeats Lie 16-15
10. This is the Life defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-14
11. These Walls defeats One Last Time 22-9
12. Panic Attack defeats The Shattered Fortress 22-7
13. Outcry defeats Surrender to Reason 20-10
14. Strange Déjà vu defeats Overture 1928 16-14
15. Sacrificed Sons defeats Peruvian Skies 20-10
16. Pull Me Under defeats The Root of All Evil 18-13
Division 2 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
1. Strange Déjà vu, 13-1
2. Pull Me Under, 12-2
3. Sacrificed Sons, 11-2-1
4. Another Day, 11-3
4. Erotomania, 11-3
4. The Great Debate, 11-3
4. The Root of All Evil, 11-3
8. The Bigger Picture, 10-3-1
8. These Walls, 10-3-1
10. Wait for Sleep, 9-3-2
11. Overture 1928, 9-4-1
12. Caught in a Web, 8-4-2
13. This Dying Soul, 8-5-1
14. As I Am, 7-5-2
14. On the Backs of Angels, 8-6
16. The Dance of Eternity, 7-6-1
16. Panic Attack, 6-5-3
18. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-6-2
19. Outcry, 7-7
20. 6:00, 6-7-1
21. Lie, 5-9
22. Surrender to Reason, 4-9-1
23. The Enemy Inside, 4-10
23. Peruvian Skies, 3-9-2
25. This is the Life, 3-10-1
26. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 2-10-2
26. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-11
26. One Last Time, 3-11
29. Hollow Years, 1-12-1
29. Innocence Faded, 1-12-1
X31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-13
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-14
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Division 1, Week 14 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46457.0
1. The Mirror defeats Stream of Consciousness 21-7
2. Fatal Tragedy defeats Disappear 19-9
3. Beyond This Life defeats Endless Sacrifice 15-13
4. The Glass Prison defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-12
5. In the Presence of Enemies & Voices tied at 14-14
6. Learning to Live defeats Under a Glass Moon 22-4
7. The Spirit Carries On defeats Misunderstood 14-13
8. Octavarium defeats Space-Dye Vest 22-6
9. In the Name of God defeats Blind Faith 16-11
10. Trial of Tears defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-8
11. Take the Time defeats Lines in the Sand 17-10
12. Metropolis defeats Surrounded 22-5
13. Finally Free defeats The Count of Tuscany 15-12
14. A Change of Seasons defeats Home 18-10
15. Breaking All Illusions defeats Illumination Theory 20-8
16. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Scarred 15-13
Division 1 Rankings after Week 14 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 14-0
*1. Octavarium, 14-0
*3. Breaking All Illusions, 13-1
*3. Learning to Live, 13-1
*3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 13-1
*3. Take the Time, 13-1
7. Metropolis, 12-2
8. Finally Free, 11-2-1
9. Scarred, 11-3
10. Surrounded, 9-5
11. Home, 8-6
11. Illumination Theory, 8-6
11. Lines in the Sand, 8-6
11. Trial of Tears, 8-6
15. The Glass Prison, 7-7
16. In the Name of God, 6-7-1
16. Voices, 6-7-1
18. The Count of Tuscany, 6-8
19. Fatal Tragedy, 5-8-1
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 5-8-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 5-8-1
22. Beyond This Life, 4-10
22. Bridges in the Sky, 4-10
24. Endless Sacrifice, 3-10-1
24. The Mirror, 3-10-1
24. Under a Glass Moon, 3-10-1
27. Space-Dye Vest, 3-11
28. Disappear, 1-12-1
29. Blind Faith, 1-13
29. Misunderstood, 1-13
X31. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-14
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 0-14
Week 15 starts on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 15 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46549.0
1. False Awakening Suite defeats Anna Lee 10-7
2. Behind the Veil defeats The Dark Eternal Night 12-6
3. The Answer Lies Within defeats Eve 10-7
4. Along for the Ride defeats Far From Heaven 10-7
5. Forsaken defeats Prophets of War 11-7
6. A Fortune in Lies defeats Enigma Machine 10-6
7. Honor Thy Father defeats A Rite of Passage 14-3
8. I Walk Beside You defeats Never Enough 10-8
9. Only a Matter of Time defeats To Live Forever 9-8
10. Through Her Eyes defeats Raise the Knife 10-7
11. Repentance & The Silent Man tied at 9-9
12. The Killing Hand defeats Ytse Jam 9-7
13. The Looking Glass defeats Wither 10-8
14. New Millennium & Vacant tied at 8-8
15. Afterlife defeats The Best of Times 13-5
16. Beneath the Surface defeats Constant Motion 10-8
Division 3 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 15-0
*2. Beneath the Surface, 14-0-1
3. Behind the Veil, 12-3
3. Forsaken, 12-3
5. Constant Motion, 11-3-1
5. The Silent Man, 10-2-3
7. I Walk Beside You, 11-4
7. Raise the Knife, 11-4
9. Along for the Ride, 10-5
9. The Best of Times, 9-4-2
9. The Looking Glass, 10-5
12. Afterlife, 9-6
12. The Killing Hand, 9-6
12. Vacant, 8-5-2
12. Wither, 8-5-2
16. New Millennium, 8-6-1
17. The Answer Lies Within, 7-7-1
18. False Awakening Suite, 6-8-1
18. A Fortune in Lies, 6-8-1
20. Never Enough, 6-9
20. To Live Forever, 6-9
22. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-9-1
22. Far From Heaven, 5-9-1
24. Through Her Eyes, 4-9-2
25. Anna Lee, 3-10-2
X26. Only a Matter of Time, 2-12-1
X26. A Rite of Passage, 2-12-1
X26. Ytse Jam, 2-12-1
X29. Enigma Machine, 2-13
X29. Eve, 2-13
X31. Prophets of War, 1-13-1
X31. Repentance, 1-13-1
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Division 2, Week 15 Results:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46565.0
1. The Enemy Inside defeats 6:00 12-9
2. The Root of All Evil defeats Panic Attack 15-6
3. Another Day defeats Innocence Faded 14-7
4. Erotomania & The Dance of Eternity tied at 10-10
5. The Great Debate defeats Caught in a Web 15-6
6. The Bigger Picture defeats Hell’s Kitchen 11-10
7. As I Am defeats Hollow Years 18-3
8. This is the Life defeats Lie 12-9
9. This Dying Soul defeats Lost Not Forgotten 13-7
10. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Wait For Sleep 12-9
11. These Walls defeats A Nightmare to Remember 15-6
12. Strange Déjà vu defeats One Last Time 17-4
13. Outcry defeats The Shattered Fortress 15-5
14. Surrender to Reason defeats On the Backs of Angels 13-8
15. Pull Me Under defeats Peruvian Skies 14-6
16. Sacrificed Sons defeats Overture 1928 13-8
Division 2 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 14-1
2. Pull Me Under, 13-2
3. Sacrificed Sons, 12-2-1
4. Another Day, 12-3
4. The Great Debate, 12-3
4. The Root of All Evil, 12-3
7. The Bigger Picture, 11-3-1
7. Erotomania, 11-3-1
7. These Walls, 11-3-1
10. Wait for Sleep, 9-4-2
11. This Dying Soul, 9-5-1
11. Overture 1928, 9-5-1
13. As I Am, 8-5-2
13. Caught in a Web, 8-5-2
15. The Dance of Eternity, 7-6-2
16. On the Backs of Angels, 8-7
16. Outcry, 8-7
18. Panic Attack, 6-6-3
19. Hell’s Kitchen, 6-7-2
20. 6:00, 6-8-1
21. Surrender to Reason, 5-9-1
22. The Enemy Inside, 5-10
22. Lie, 5-10
24. This is the Life, 4-10-1
25. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 3-10-2
25. Peruvian Skies, 3-10-2
27. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-12
27. One Last Time, 3-12
X29. Hollow Years, 1-13-1
X29. Innocence Faded, 1-13-1
X31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-14
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-15
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Division 1, Week 15 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46571.0
1. The Glass Prison defeats Blind Faith 12-7
2. The Mirror defeats Space-Dye Vest 12-8
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Misunderstood 14-6
4. Beyond This Life defeats Disappear 11-9
5. The Count of Tuscany defeats Endless Sacrifice 11-9
6. A Change of Seasons defeats Fatal Tragedy 15-4
7. Finally Free & Bridges in the Sky tied at 10-10
8. In the Name of God defeats Under a Glass Moon 13-6
9. Surrounded defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 17-2
10. Trial of Tears defeats In the Presence of Enemies 11-8
11. Stream of Consciousness defeats Lines in the Sand 10-9
12. Learning to Live defeats Take the Time 13-6
13. Metropolis defeats The Spirit Carries On 15-3
14. Illumination Theory defeats Voices 12-8
15. Breaking All Illusions defeats Home 12-8
16. Octavarium defeats Scarred 15-5
Division 1 Rankings after Week 15 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 15-0
*1. Octavarium, 15-0
*3. Breaking All Illusions, 14-1
*3. Learning to Live, 14-1
*3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 14-1
*6. Metropolis, 13-2
*6. Take the Time, 13-2
8. Finally Free, 11-2-2
9. Scarred, 11-4
10. Surrounded, 10-5
11. Illumination Theory, 9-6
11. Trial of Tears, 9-6
13. The Glass Prison, 8-7
13. Home, 8-7
13. Lines in the Sand, 8-7
16. In the Name of God, 7-7-1
17. The Count of Tuscany, 7-8
18. Voices, 6-8-1
19. Fatal Tragedy, 5-9-1
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 5-9-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 5-9-1
22. Beyond This Life, 5-10
23. Bridges in the Sky, 4-10-1
23. The Mirror, 4-10-1
25. Endless Sacrifice, 3-11-1
25. Under a Glass Moon, 3-11-1
27. Space-Dye Vest, 3-12
X28. Disappear, 1-13-1
X29. Blind Faith, 1-14
X29. Misunderstood, 1-14
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-14
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-15
Week 16 starts on Monday.
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Among the promoted and relegated songs from last year's League, a pattern seems to be emerging where one song from each group of 4 is doing far better than the others. For instance, in Division 1, Surrounded has a 10-5 record, while the other songs (Misunderstood, Endless Sacrifice and Lifting Shadows) have scraped just 4 wins in total between them. And in Division 2, As I Am is 8-5-2, while Shattered Fortress, Lost Not Forgotten and Hollow Years have just 2 wins between them.
Also interesting is Hell's Kitchen's slump in form. It hasn't won a match since Week 8, going from 6-1-1 then to 6-7-2 now.
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Division 3, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46630.0
1. Constant Motion defeats A Fortune in Lies 14-7
2. Beneath the Surface defeats I Walk Beside You 12-10
3. Through Her Eyes & Never Enough tied at 11-11
4. Ytse Jam defeats To Live Forever 13-8
5. Afterlife defeats False Awakening Suite 14-6
6. Far From Heaven defeats Eve 12-9
7. Forsaken defeats The Dark Eternal Night 12-9
8. The Looking Glass defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-7
9. New Millennium defeats Anna Lee 13-7
10. Along For the Ride defeats Only a Matter of Time 13-8
11. Raise the Knife defeats Prophets of War 12-9
12. Repentance defeats Enigma Machine 14-8
13. The Silent Man defeats A Rite of Passage 14-8
14. Vacant defeats Wither 11-9
15. The Killing Hand & Behind the Veil tied at 11-11
16. Honor Thy Father defeats The Best of Times 12-7
Division 3 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 16-0
*2. Beneath the Surface, 15-0-1
*3. Forsaken, 13-3
*4. Behind the Veil, 12-3-1
*4. Constant Motion, 12-3-1
*4. The Silent Man, 11-2-3
*7. Raise the Knife, 12-4
8. Along for the Ride, 11-5
8. I Walk Beside You, 11-5
8. The Looking Glass, 11-5
11. Afterlife, 10-6
11. The Best of Times, 9-5-2
11. Vacant, 9-5-2
14. The Killing Hand, 9-6-1
14. New Millennium, 9-6-1
16. Wither, 8-6-2
17. The Answer Lies Within, 7-8-1
18. False Awakening Suite, 6-9-1
18. A Fortune in Lies, 6-9-1
18. Far From Heaven, 6-9-1
18. Never Enough, 6-9-1
22. To Live Forever, 6-10
23. The Dark Eternal Night, 5-10-1
23. Through Her Eyes, 4-9-3
X25. Anna Lee, 3-11-2
X26. Ytse Jam, 3-12-1
X27. Only a Matter of Time, 2-13-1
X27. Repentance, 2-13-1
X27. A Rite of Passage, 2-13-1
X30. Enigma Machine, 2-14
X30. Eve, 2-14
X32. Prophets of War, 1-14-1
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Hurrah! Repentance won a match!
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Division 2, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46652.0
1. Caught in a Web defeats On the Backs of Angels 15-10
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats The Enemy Inside 14-11
3. The Dance of Eternity defeats A Nightmare to Remember 16-9
4. 6:00 defeats Hollow Years 18-6
5. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Innocence Faded 17-7
6. The Great Debate defeats Lie 16-9
7. Erotomania defeats Lost Not Forgotten 15-9
8. The Bigger Picture defeats One Last Time 14-10
9. Panic Attack defeats This is the Life 16-9
10. Peruvian Skies defeats This Dying Soul 13-12
11. Pull Me Under defeats Wait For Sleep 17-6
12. Sacrificed Sons defeats Surrender to Reason 13-11
13. Strange Déjà vu defeats The Shattered Fortress 20-5
14. As I Am defeats Outcry 18-7
15. Overture 1928 defeats Another Day 16-8
16. The Root of All Evil defeats These Walls 14-11
Division 2 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 15-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 14-2
*3. Sacrificed Sons, 13-2-1
*4. The Great Debate, 13-3
*4. The Root of All Evil, 13-3
*6. The Bigger Picture, 12-3-1
*6. Erotomania, 12-3-1
8. Another Day, 12-4
9. These Walls, 11-4-1
10. Overture 1928, 10-5-1
11. Wait for Sleep, 9-5-2
12. This Dying Soul, 9-6-1
13. As I Am, 9-5-2
13. Caught in a Web, 9-5-2
15. The Dance of Eternity, 8-6-2
16. Panic Attack, 7-6-3
17. Hell’s Kitchen, 7-7-2
17. On the Backs of Angels, 8-8
17. Outcry, 8-8
20. 6:00, 7-8-1
21. Surrender to Reason, 5-10-1
22. The Enemy Inside, 5-11
22. Lie, 5-11
24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 4-10-2
24. Peruvian Skies, 4-10-2
26. This is the Life, 4-11-1
X27. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-13
X27. One Last Time, 3-13
X29. Hollow Years, 1-14-1
X29. Innocence Faded, 1-14-1
X31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-15
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-16
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Division 1, Week 16 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46660.0
1. A Change of Seasons defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 22-3
2. The Mirror & Blind Faith tied at 13-13
3. Voices defeats Misunderstood 16-10
4. Home defeats Beyond This Life 16-9
5. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Disappear 16-10
6. The Spirit Carries On defeats Stream of Consciousness 20-5
7. Bridges in the Sky defeats Lines in the Sand 14-11
8. Octavarium defeats Under a Glass Moon 22-4
9. Surrounded defeats Space-Dye Vest 17-9
10. Finally Free defeats The Glass Prison 14-12
11. Learning to Live defeats The Count of Tuscany 20-6
12. Illumination Theory defeats Fatal Tragedy 14-12
13. In the Name of God defeats Endless Sacrifice 17-8
14. Scarred defeats Trial of Tears 14-12
15. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Take the Time 15-8
16. Metropolis defeats Breaking All Illusions 15-11
Division 1 Rankings after Week 16 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 16-0
*1. Octavarium, 16-0
*3. Learning to Live, 15-1
*3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 15-1
*5. Breaking All Illusions, 14-2
*5. Metropolis, 14-2
*7. Finally Free, 12-2-2
*7. Take the Time, 13-3
*9. Scarred, 12-4
10. Surrounded, 11-5
11. Illumination Theory, 10-6
12. Home, 9-7
12. Trial of Tears, 9-7
14. In the Name of God, 8-7-1
15. The Glass Prison, 8-8
15. Lines in the Sand, 8-8
17. Voices, 7-8-1
18. The Count of Tuscany, 7-9
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 6-9-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 6-9-1
21. Bridges in the Sky, 5-10-1
21. Fatal Tragedy, 5-10-1
23. Beyond This Life, 5-11
23. The Mirror, 4-10-2
X25. Endless Sacrifice, 3-12-1
X25. Under a Glass Moon, 3-12-1
X27. Space-Dye Vest, 3-13
X28. Blind Faith, 1-14-1
X28. Disappear, 1-14-1
X30. Misunderstood, 1-15
X30. Stream of Consciousness, 1-15
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-16
Week 17 starts on Monday.
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Wow. Huge win for Metropolis as far as the standings go. Breaking All Illusions was a potential Division 1 champion heading into this week. Now there should be some doubts as to if it will make it as far as it did last year. This was the biggest result in the league so far this year.
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Im really happy because BAI lose this battle, imo their most overrated track on DTF, should be on 3rd division imo.
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Wow. Huge win for Metropolis as far as the standings go. Breaking All Illusions was a potential Division 1 champion heading into this week. Now there should be some doubts as to if it will make it as far as it did last year. This was the biggest result in the league so far this year.
I agree that it's the biggest result so far. Metropolis also beat Learning to Live earlier in the season. Perhaps these wins will mean better positioning to make a legit run at the championship.
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Wow. Huge win for Metropolis as far as the standings go. Breaking All Illusions was a potential Division 1 champion heading into this week. Now there should be some doubts as to if it will make it as far as it did last year. This was the biggest result in the league so far this year.
Unless we get ACOS v Octavarium in the 3 weeks that remain, those two will undoubtedly go 20-0. Still, it's the first time BAI has lost twice in the regular season since 2013. I'm not sure that these results will affect the songs' performance in a straight knockout tournament. Theoretically (albeit very unlikely) the 16th-placed song has as much chance of winning the tournament at the start as the 1st-placed song.
There is no way BAI should be in Div. 3 either. It fully deserves its place among the Immortals.
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Division 3, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46727.0
1. Afterlife defeats A Rite of Passage 15-9
2. To Live Forever defeats The Answer Lies Within 13-11
3. Never Enough defeats Enigma Machine 18-6
4. Ytse Jam defeats Prophets of War 12-10
5. Along For the Ride defeats Wither 13-10
6. Vacant defeats Anna Lee 15-8
7. Behind the Veil defeats Through Her Eyes 16-7
8. The Best of Times defeats Repentance 13-10
9. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Only a Matter of Time 13-10
10. New Millennium defeats Eve 15-8
11. The Looking Glass defeats False Awakening Suite 16-8
12. The Killing Hand defeats Far From Heaven 12-10
13. Forsaken defeats I Walk Beside You 14-9
14. Honor Thy Father defeats A Fortune in Lies 16-7
15. Constant Motion defeats Raise the Knife 16-8
16. Beneath the Surface defeats The Silent Man 17-7
Division 3 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 17-0
*2. Beneath the Surface, 16-0-1
*3. Forsaken, 14-3
*4. Behind the Veil, 13-3-1
*4. Constant Motion, 13-3-1
*6. The Silent Man, 11-3-3
*7. Along for the Ride, 12-5
*7. The Looking Glass, 12-5
*7. Raise the Knife, 12-5
*10. Afterlife, 11-6
*10. The Best of Times, 10-5-2
*10. I Walk Beside You, 11-6
*10. Vacant, 10-5-2
14. The Killing Hand, 10-6-1
14. New Millennium, 10-6-1
16. Wither, 8-7-2
17. The Answer Lies Within, 7-9-1
18. False Awakening Suite, 6-10-1
18. Far From Heaven, 6-10-1
18. A Fortune in Lies, 6-10-1
21. Never Enough, 7-9-1
22. To Live Forever, 7-10
23. The Dark Eternal Night, 6-10-1
X24. Through Her Eyes, 4-10-3
X25. Ytse Jam, 4-12-1
X26. Anna Lee, 3-12-2
X27. Only a Matter of Time, 2-14-1
X27. Repentance, 2-14-1
X27. A Rite of Passage, 2-14-1
X30. Enigma Machine, 2-15
X30. Eve, 2-15
X32. Prophets of War, 1-15-1
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Division 2, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46737.0
1. As I Am defeats The Shattered Fortress 14-7
2. The Enemy Inside defeats Peruvian Skies 11-10
3. On the Backs of Angels defeats Innocence Faded 10-9
4. Surrender to Reason defeats This is the Life 11-9
5. Overture 1928 defeats The Great Debate 11-10
6. Pull Me Under defeats The Dance of Eternity 14-7
7. Wait For Sleep defeats 6:00 12-9
8. Panic Attack defeats Erotomania 14-7
9. One Last Time defeats Hollow Years 12-8
10. Lie defeats A Nightmare to Remember 11-10
11. Hell’s Kitchen & Outcry tied at 10-10
12. The Root of All Evil defeats Caught in a Web 12-9
13. These Walls defeats This Dying Soul 13-8
14. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Lost Not Forgotten 11-10
15. Sacrificed Sons defeats The Bigger Picture 12-8
16. Strange Déjà vu defeats Another Day 14-6
Division 2 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 16-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 15-2
*3. Sacrificed Sons, 14-2-1
*4. The Root of All Evil, 14-3
*5. The Great Debate, 13-4
*6. The Bigger Picture, 12-4-1
*6. Erotomania, 12-4-1
*6. These Walls, 12-4-1
9. Another Day, 12-5
10. Overture 1928, 11-5-1
11. As I Am, 10-5-2
11. Wait for Sleep, 10-5-2
13. Caught in a Web, 9-6-2
14. This Dying Soul, 9-7-1
14. Panic Attack, 8-6-3
16. The Dance of Eternity, 8-7-2
16. On the Backs of Angels, 9-8
18. Hell’s Kitchen, 7-7-3
18. Outcry, 8-8-1
20. 6:00, 7-9-1
21. Surrender to Reason, 6-10-1
22. The Enemy Inside, 6-11
22. Lie, 6-11
22. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 5-10-2
X25. Peruvian Skies, 4-11-2
X26. This is the Life, 4-12-1
X27. One Last Time, 4-13
X28. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-14
X29. Hollow Years, 1-15-1
X29. Innocence Faded, 1-15-1
X31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-16
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-17
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Division 1, Week 17 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46749.0
1. Take the Time defeats Under a Glass Moon 18-9
2. Blind Faith defeats Stream of Consciousness 17-12
3. Misunderstood defeats Endless Sacrifice 18-11
4. Bridges in the Sky defeats Space-Dye Vest 16-13
5. Trial of Tears defeats Beyond This Life 17-11
6. The Glass Prison defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 18-11
7. Breaking All Illusions defeats The Spirit Carries On 21-8
8. Octavarium defeats Disappear 24-5
9. Fatal Tragedy defeats The Mirror 20-10
10. Voices defeats Surrounded 17-11
11. In the Name of God defeats In the Presence of Enemies 21-7
12. Learning to Live defeats Illumination Theory 19-9
13. Scarred defeats The Count of Tuscany 17-12
14. Home defeats Lines in the Sand 18-10
15. Metropolis defeats Finally Free 19-9
16. A Change of Seasons defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 20-8
Division 1 Rankings after Week 17 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 17-0
*1. Octavarium, 17-0
*3. Learning to Live, 16-1
*4. Breaking All Illusions, 15-2
*4. Metropolis, 15-2
*4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 15-2
*7. Take the Time, 14-3
*8. Finally Free, 12-3-2
*8. Scarred, 13-4
10. Surrounded, 11-6
11. Home, 10-7
11. Illumination Theory, 10-7
11. Trial of Tears, 10-7
14. In the Name of God, 9-7-1
15. The Glass Prison, 9-8
16. Voices, 8-8-1
17. Lines in the Sand, 8-9
18. The Count of Tuscany, 7-10
19. Bridges in the Sky, 6-10-1
19. Fatal Tragedy, 6-10-1
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 6-10-1
19. The Spirit Carries On, 6-10-1
X23. Beyond This Life, 5-12
X24. The Mirror, 4-11-2
X25. Endless Sacrifice, 3-13-1
X25. Under a Glass Moon, 3-13-1
X27. Space-Dye Vest, 3-14
X28. Blind Faith, 2-14-1
X29. Misunderstood, 2-15
X30. Disappear, 1-15-1
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-16
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-17
Week 18 starts on Monday.
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The Shattered Fortress now needs tiebreakers to go its way in order to keep its place in Division 2. ANTR losing by just 1 vote keeps the relegation from being mathematically certain for this week at least.
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Division 3, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46803.0
1. New Millennium defeats Forsaken 14-13
2. Along For the Ride defeats A Rite of Passage 19-8
3. The Looking Glass defeats A Fortune in Lies 20-7
4. Enigma Machine defeats Prophets of War 17-9
5. Eve defeats Repentance 15-12
6. Far From Heaven defeats Only a Matter of Time 15-10
7. Raise the Knife & False Awakening Suite tied at 13-13
8. The Silent Man defeats The Dark Eternal Night 14-13
9. Constant Motion defeats Through Her Eyes 14-13
10. To Live Forever defeats The Best of Times 16-10
11. Vacant & Beneath the Surface tied at 13-13
12. Behind the Veil defeats Wither 15-12
13. Ytse Jam defeats The Answer Lies Within 16-9
14. Never Enough defeats Anna Lee 16-11
15. I Walk Beside You defeats Afterlife 14-12
16. Honor Thy Father defeats The Killing Hand 14-12
Division 3 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 18-0
*2. Beneath the Surface, 16-0-2
*3. Behind the Veil, 14-3-1
*3. Constant Motion, 14-3-1
*5. Forsaken, 14-4
*6. The Silent Man, 12-3-3
*7. Along for the Ride, 13-5
*7. The Looking Glass, 13-5
*9. Raise the Knife, 12-5-1
*10. I Walk Beside You, 12-6
*11. New Millennium, 11-6-1
*11. Vacant, 10-5-3
*13. Afterlife, 11-7
*13. The Best of Times, 10-6-2
15. The Killing Hand, 10-7-1
16. Wither, 8-8-2
17. Never Enough, 8-9-1
18. To Live Forever, 8-10
19. The Answer Lies Within, 7-10-1
19. Far From Heaven, 7-10-1
21. False Awakening Suite, 6-10-2
X22. A Fortune in Lies, 6-11-1
X22. The Dark Eternal Night, 6-11-1
X24. Through Her Eyes, 4-11-3
X25. Ytse Jam, 5-12-1
X26. Anna Lee, 3-13-2
X27. Enigma Machine, 3-15
X27. Eve, 3-15
X29. Only a Matter of Time, 2-15-1
X29. Repentance, 2-15-1
X29. A Rite of Passage, 2-15-1
X32. Prophets of War, 1-16-1
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Division 2, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46737.0
1. Another Day defeats Wait For Sleep 15-11
2. On the Backs of Angels defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 14-13
3. Overture 1928 defeats Innocence Faded 21-6
4. Panic Attack defeats Hollow Years 20-7
5. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Peruvian Skies 14-12
6. The Root of All Evil defeats Erotomania 15-12
7. Lie defeats Outcry 14-13
8. Sacrificed Sons defeats The Enemy Inside 15-12
9. 6:00 defeats A Nightmare to Remember 16-11
10. The Dance of Eternity defeats The Shattered Fortress 18-8
11. Strange déjà vu defeats Caught in a Web 23-4
12. One Last Time defeats Lost Not Forgotten 17-9
13. The Bigger Picture defeats Surrender to Reason 17-9
14. These Walls defeats As I Am 17-10
15. This is the Life defeats This Dying Soul 15-12
16. Pull Me Under & The Great Debate tied at 13-13
Division 2 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 17-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 15-2-1
*2. Sacrificed Sons, 15-2-1
*4. The Root of All Evil, 15-3
*5. The Bigger Picture, 13-4-1
*5. The Great Debate, 13-4-1
*5. These Walls, 13-4-1
*8. Another Day, 13-5
*9. Erotomania, 12-5-1
*9. Overture 1928, 12-5-1
11. As I Am, 10-6-2
11. Wait for Sleep, 10-6-2
13. Panic Attack, 9-6-3
14. Caught in a Web, 9-7-2
14. The Dance of Eternity, 9-7-2
14. On the Backs of Angels, 10-8
17. This Dying Soul, 9-8-1
17. Hell’s Kitchen, 8-7-3
19. 6:00, 8-9-1
19. Outcry, 8-9-1
X21. Lie, 7-11
X22. Surrender to Reason, 6-11-1
X23. The Enemy Inside, 6-12
X23. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 5-11-2
X25. This is the Life, 5-12-1
X26. One Last Time, 5-13
X26. Peruvian Skies, 4-12-2
X28. A Nightmare to Remember, 3-15
X29. Hollow Years, 1-16-1
X29. Innocence Faded, 1-16-1
X31. Lost Not Forgotten, 1-17
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-18
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DoC, shouldn't On the Backs of Angels (10-8) be in 11th place, between Overture 1928 and As I Am? It's currently below a bunch of 9-win songs.
It's quite interesting to see some considerable changes in position with some of the songs, comparing this year and last year. Never Enough had to go through the Outsider's Survivor (what feels like an age ago) to get back into Division 3, yet it still stands a (admittedly outside) chance of getting into the Top 16. It will probably have to win both its remaining matches and hope that Wither slips up, but it's a marked improvement on last year.
As I Am is another song punching above its weight. Having already recorded 10 wins, it's even more likely to get into Division 2's tournament.
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DoC, shouldn't On the Backs of Angels (10-8) be in 11th place, between Overture 1928 and As I Am? It's currently below a bunch of 9-win songs.
It's quite interesting to see some considerable changes in position with some of the songs, comparing this year and last year. Never Enough had to go through the Outsider's Survivor (what feels like an age ago) to get back into Division 3, yet it still stands a (admittedly outside) chance of getting into the Top 16. It will probably have to win both its remaining matches and hope that Wither slips up, but it's a marked improvement on last year.
As I Am is another song punching above its weight. Having already recorded 10 wins, it's even more likely to get into Division 2's tournament.
OtBoA's situation is due to the ties. They count as half a win and half a loss. Looking at it like that, TDoE and CiaW are both 10-8 while PA is 10.5-7.5.
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DoC, shouldn't On the Backs of Angels (10-8) be in 11th place, between Overture 1928 and As I Am? It's currently below a bunch of 9-win songs.
OtBoA's situation is due to the ties. They count as half a win and half a loss. Looking at it like that, TDoE and CiaW are both 10-8 while PA is 10.5-7.5.
What a bizarre situation! We have had an awful lot of ties this year, far more than I can remember there ever being.
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DoC, shouldn't On the Backs of Angels (10-8) be in 11th place, between Overture 1928 and As I Am? It's currently below a bunch of 9-win songs.
It's quite interesting to see some considerable changes in position with some of the songs, comparing this year and last year. Never Enough had to go through the Outsider's Survivor (what feels like an age ago) to get back into Division 3, yet it still stands a (admittedly outside) chance of getting into the Top 16. It will probably have to win both its remaining matches and hope that Wither slips up, but it's a marked improvement on last year.
As I Am is another song punching above its weight. Having already recorded 10 wins, it's even more likely to get into Division 2's tournament.
OtBoA's situation is due to the ties. They count as half a win and half a loss. Looking at it like that, TDoE and CiaW are both 10-8 while PA is 10.5-7.5.
This is correct. The ties are counted as half a win, or .5, and we go from there. I'll do tiebreakers after week 20 and that'll sort things out.
DoC, shouldn't On the Backs of Angels (10-8) be in 11th place, between Overture 1928 and As I Am? It's currently below a bunch of 9-win songs.
OtBoA's situation is due to the ties. They count as half a win and half a loss. Looking at it like that, TDoE and CiaW are both 10-8 while PA is 10.5-7.5.
What a bizarre situation! We have had an awful lot of ties this year, far more than I can remember there ever being.
There have been a lot of ties.
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Division 1, Week 18 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46823.0
1. In the Presence of Enemies defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-11
2. The Mirror defeats The Glass Prison 16-11
3. Home defeats Misunderstood 18-9
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Endless Sacrifice 20-7
5. Space-Dye Vest defeats Disappear 16-11
6. Learning to Live defeats Beyond This Life 19-6
7. The Count of Tuscany defeats The Spirit Carries On 15-12
8. A Change of Seasons defeats Stream of Consciousness 22-3
9. Surrounded defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-10
10. Voices defeats Under a Glass Moon 14-12
11. Blind Faith defeats Trial of Tears 14-12
12. Octavarium defeats Finally Free 22-5
13. Fatal Tragedy defeats Scarred 14-13
14. Lines in the Sand defeats In the Name of God 14-13
15. Metropolis defeats Illumination Theory 18-9
16. Breaking All Illusions defeats Take the Time 17-10
Division 1 Rankings after Week 18 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 18-0
*1. Octavarium, 18-0
*3. Learning to Live, 17-1
*4. Breaking All Illusions, 16-2
*4. Metropolis, 16-2
*4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 16-2
*7. Take the Time, 14-4
*8. Finally Free, 12-4-2
*8. Scarred, 13-5
*10. Surrounded, 12-6
11. Home, 11-7
12. Illumination Theory, 10-8
12. Trial of Tears, 10-8
14. In the Name of God, 9-8-1
15. Voices, 9-8-1
16. The Glass Prison, 9-9
16. Lines in the Sand, 9-9
18. The Count of Tuscany, 8-10
19. Fatal Tragedy, 7-10-1
19. In the Presence of Enemies, 7-10-1
X21. Bridges in the Sky, 6-11-1
X21. The Spirit Carries On, 6-11-1
X23. The Mirror, 5-11-2
X24. Beyond This Life, 5-13
X25. Space-Dye Vest, 4-14
X26. Blind Faith, 3-14-1
X26. Endless Sacrifice, 3-14-1
X26. Under a Glass Moon, 3-14-1
X29. Misunderstood, 2-16
X30. Disappear, 1-16-1
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-17
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-18
Week 19 starts on Monday.
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Division 3, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46878.0
1. False Awakening Suite defeats Far From Heaven 10-9
2. Forsaken defeats Eve 15-4
3. Wither defeats Afterlife 11-8
4. Ytse Jam & Vacant tied at 9-9
5. Never Enough defeats To Live Forever 11-8
6. Through Her Eyes defeats A Rite of Passage 12-8
7. The Silent Man defeats Enigma Machine 12-7
8. Repentance defeats Prophets of War 12-7
9. Along For the Ride defeats Raise the Knife 12-7
10. Anna Lee & Only a Matter of Time tied at 9-9
11. New Millennium defeats The Answer Lies Within 11-7
12. I Walk Beside You defeats The Best of Times 12-8
13. The Dark Eternal Night defeats A Fortune in Lies 10-9
14. Constant Motion & Honor Thy Father tied at 10-10
15. Behind the Veil defeats The Looking Glass 11-9
16. Beneath the Surface defeats The Killing Hand 10-9
Division 3 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 18-0-1
*2. Beneath the Surface, 17-0-2
*3. Behind the Veil, 15-3-1
*4. Constant Motion, 14-3-2
*4. Forsaken, 15-4
*6. The Silent Man, 13-3-3
*7. Along for the Ride, 14-5
*8. I Walk Beside You, 13-6
*8. The Looking Glass, 13-6
*10. Raise the Knife, 12-6-1
*10. New Millennium, 12-6-1
*12. Vacant, 10-6-3
*13. Afterlife, 11-8
*13. The Best of Times, 10-7-2
15. The Killing Hand, 10-8-1
16. Wither, 9-8-2
17. Never Enough, 9-9-1
X18. False Awakening Suite, 7-10-2
X18. To Live Forever, 8-11
X20. The Answer Lies Within, 7-11-1
X20. The Dark Eternal Night, 7-11-1
X20. Far From Heaven, 7-11-1
X23. A Fortune in Lies, 6-12-1
X23. Through Her Eyes, 5-11-3
X23. Ytse Jam, 6-12-1
X26. Anna Lee, 3-13-3
X27. Repentance, 3-15-1
X28. Enigma Machine, 3-16
X28. Eve, 3-16
X28. Only a Matter of Time, 2-15-2
X31. A Rite of Passage, 2-16-1
X32. Prophets of War, 1-17-1
Three songs are fighting for two playoff spots with one week to go
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Division 2, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46889.0
1. On the Backs of Angels defeats The Dance of Eternity 11-9
2. A Nightmare to Remember defeats The Enemy Inside 12-9
3. Surrender to Reason defeats The Shattered Fortress 11-9
4. The Root of All Evil defeats Wait For Sleep 13-8
5. Pull Me Under defeats This Dying Soul 13-8
6. This is the Life defeats Peruvian Skies 13-7
7. Another Day & Panic Attack tied at 10-10
8. Caught in a Web defeats One Last Time 12-9
9. Erotomania defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 12-9
10. Lost Not Forgotten defeats The Great Debate 11-10
11. Hell’s Kitchen defeats Lie 13-8
12. Innocence Faded defeats Hollow Years 12-8
13. Overture 1928 defeats As I Am 13-8
14. Outcry defeats The Bigger Picture 11-9
15. These Walls defeats Sacrificed Sons 12-9
16. Strange Déjà vu defeats 6:00 16-5
Division 2 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 18-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 16-2-1
*3. The Root of All Evil, 16-3
*4. Sacrificed Sons, 15-3-1
*5. These Walls, 14-4-1
*6. Another Day. 13-5-1
*6. The Bigger Picture, 13-5-1
*6. Erotomania, 13-5-1
*6. The Great Debate, 13-5-1
*6. Overture 1928, 13-5-1
11. As I Am, 10-7-2
11. Caught in a Web, 10-7-2
11. On the Backs of Angels, 11-8
11. Panic Attack, 9-6-4
11. Wait for Sleep, 10-7-2
16. Hell’s Kitchen, 9-7-3
17. The Dance of Eternity, 9-8-2
18. This Dying Soul, 9-9-1
18. Outcry, 9-9-1
X20. 6:00, 8-10-1
X21. Surrender to Reason, 7-11-1
X22. Lie, 7-12
X23. This is the Life, 6-12-1
X24. The Enemy Inside, 6-13
X24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 5-12-2
X26. One Last Time, 5-14
X26. Peruvian Skies, 4-13-2
X28. A Nightmare to Remember, 4-15
X29. Innocence Faded, 2-16-1
X30. Lost Not Forgotten, 2-17
X31. Hollow Years, 1-17-1
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-19
9 songs are fighting for 6 playoff spots with one week to go.
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Division 2: With a 2-win gap between ANTR in 28th (4-15) and Innocence Faded in 29th (2-16-1), and only 1 match left, that means the current bottom 4 are all now confirmed relegated to Division 3.
Considering where they are in the rankings, Lost Not Forgotten beating The Great Debate is quite a shock. TGD hasn't won a match since Week 16.
The bottom of Division 3 is really tight going into the final week. Only POW is a confirmed relegation. Realistically, any song from Repentance to AROP is in danger of joining it.
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Division 1, Week 19 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46823.0
1. Endless Sacrifice defeats In the Presence of Enemies
2. Beyond This Life defeats Stream of Consciousness 13-8
3. Take the Time defeats Space-Dye Vest 15-8
4. Scarred defeats Under a Glass Moon 16-8
5. Metropolis defeats Bridges in the Sky 20-4
6. Blind Faith defeats Misunderstood 13-11
7. Breaking All Illusions defeats The Mirror 16-8
8. The Count of Tuscany defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 16-6
9. Surrounded defeats The Spirit Carries On 14-9
10. Learning to Live defeats Disappear 19-5
11. Fatal Tragedy defeats In the Name of God 13-10
12. Octavarium defeats Voices 19-5
13. A Change of Seasons defeats Lines in the Sand 17-6
14. Trial of Tears defeats Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 12-11
15. Home defeats The Glass Prison 14-10
16. Illumination Theory defeats Finally Free 15-9
Division 1 Rankings after Week 19 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 19-0
*1. Octavarium, 19-0
*3. Learning to Live, 18-1
*4. Breaking All Illusions, 17-2
*4. Metropolis, 17-2
*6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 16-3
*7. Take the Time, 15-4
*8. Scarred, 14-5
*9. Finally Free, 12-5-2
*9. Surrounded, 13-6
*11. Home, 12-7
*12. Illumination Theory, 11-8
*12. Trial of Tears, 11-8
14. In the Name of God, 9-9-1
14. Voices, 9-9-1
16. The Count of Tuscany, 9-10
16. The Glass Prison, 9-10
16. Lines in the Sand, 9-10
19. Fatal Tragedy, 8-10-1
X20. In the Presence of Enemies, 7-11-1
X21. Bridges in the Sky, 6-12-1
X21. The Spirit Carries On, 6-12-1
X23. Beyond This Life, 6-13
X23. The Mirror, 5-12-2
X25. Blind Faith, 4-14-1
X25. Endless Sacrifice, 4-14-1
X26. Space-Dye Vest, 4-15
X27. Under a Glass Moon, 3-15-1
X29. Misunderstood, 2-17
X30. Disappear, 1-17-1
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-18
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-19
6 songs are fighting for 3 playoff spots with one week remaining.
Week 19 starts on Monday.
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Lifting Shadows did not win any match. Wow.
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Division 3, Week 19 Results:
X28. Only a Matter of Time, 2-15-2
Division 2, Week 19 Results:
X20. 6:00, 8-10-1
Those are the two songs I´d rather see faring better. Those great lyrics from Kevin Moore...
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Lifting Shadows did not win any match. Wow.
It might prove to be a "yo-yo" song. Too good for Division 2, not good enough for Division 1.
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Division 3, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46989.0
1. Constant Motion defeats Along For the Ride 13-8
2. The Dark Eternal Night defeats Prophets of War 11-8
3. Eve & The Enigma Machine tied at 9-9
4. False Awakening Suite defeats A Rite of Passage 13-8
5. Never Enough defeats Far From Heaven 13-8
6. Forsaken defeats Ytse Jam 14-6
7. Wither defeats A Fortune in Lies 14-6
8. Beneath the Surface defeats The Answer Lies Within 14-6
9. The Best of Times defeats Anna Lee 12-9
10. Honor Thy Father defeats Vacant 11-8
11. I Walk Beside You defeats To Live Forever 10-9
12. The Killing Hand defeats Through Her Eyes 14-6
13. The Looking Glass defeats The Silent Man 14-5
14. New Millennium and Repentance tied at 10-10
15. Only a Matter of Time defeats Raise the Knife 11-8
16. Behind the Veil defeats Afterlife 14-7
Division 3 Rankings after Week 20 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 3 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 2 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to the Outsiders Club. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 3 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 3 Tournament.
*1. Honor Thy Father, 19-0-1
*2. Beneath the Surface, 18-0-2
*3. Behind the Veil, 16-3-1
*4. Constant Motion, 15-3-2
*4. Forsaken, 16-4
*6. The Silent Man, 13-4-3
*7. Along for the Ride, 14-6
*7. I Walk Beside You, 14-6
*7. The Looking Glass, 14-6
*10. New Millennium, 12-6-2
*11. Raise the Knife, 12-7-1
*12. The Best of Times, 11-7-2
*13. Vacant, 10-7-3
*14. The Killing Hand, 11-8-1
*15. Afterlife, 11-9
*15. Wither, 10-8-2
X17. Never Enough, 10-9-1
X18. The Dark Eternal Night, 8-11-1
X19. False Awakening Suite, 7-10-2
X19. To Live Forever, 8-12
X21. The Answer Lies Within, 7-12-1
X21. Far From Heaven, 7-12-1
X23. A Fortune in Lies, 6-13-1
X23. Through Her Eyes, 5-12-3
X23. Ytse Jam, 6-13-1
X26. Anna Lee, 3-14-3
X27. Repentance, 3-15-2
X27. Only a Matter of Time, 3-15-2
X29. Enigma Machine, 3-16-1
X29. Eve, 3-16-1
X31. A Rite of Passage, 2-17-1
X32. Prophets of War, 1-18-1
Tiebreakers will be applied to determine final standings. The playoff field has been set. The bottom four songs are set for demotion.
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Division 2, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=47007.0
1. Caught in a Web defeats 6:00 9-8
2. As I Am defeats The Enemy Inside 10-7
3. The Dance of Eternity defeats The Bigger Picture 10-7
4. The Great Debate defeats This is the Life 9-8
5. Wait For Sleep defeats Hollow Years 16-1
6. These Walls defeats Innocence Faded 9-8
7. Surrender to Reason defeats Lie 10-7
8. Strange Déjà vu defeats Lost Not Forgotten 11-6
9. The Ministry of Lost Souls & The Shattered Fortress tied at 8-8
10. Sacrificed Sons defeats A Nightmare to Remember 9-7
11. The Root of All Evil defeats On the Backs of Angels 12-5
12. Pull Me Under defeats One Last Time 13-4
13. Outcry defeats Peruvian Skies 11-6
14. Overture 1928 defeats Panic Attack 12-5
15. Erotomania defeats Another Day 9-7
16. Hell’s Kitchen defeats This Dying Soul 9-7
Division 2 Rankings after Week 20 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 2 Tournament. The tournament’s final four songs will be promoted to Division 1 for the 2017 season. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 3. Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 2 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 2 Tournament.
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 19-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 17-2-1
*3. The Root of All Evil, 17-3
*4. Sacrificed Sons, 16-3-1
*5. These Walls, 15-4-1
*6. Erotomania, 14-5-1
*6. The Great Debate, 14-5-1
*6. Overture 1928, 14-5-1
*9. Another Day. 13-6-1
*9. The Bigger Picture, 13-6-1
*11. As I Am, 11-7-2
*11. Caught in a Web, 11-7-2
*11. Wait for Sleep, 11-7-2
*14. Hell’s Kitchen, 10-7-3
15. The Dance of Eternity, 10-8-2
15. On the Backs of Angels, 11-9
15. Panic Attack, 9-7-4
X18. Outcry, 10-9-1
X19. This Dying Soul, 9-10-1
X20. 6:00, 8-11-1
X20. Surrender to Reason, 8-11-1
X22. Lie, 7-13
X23. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 5-12-3
X23. This is the Life, 6-13-1
X25. The Enemy Inside, 6-14
X26. One Last Time, 5-15
X26. Peruvian Skies, 4-14-2
X28. A Nightmare to Remember, 4-16
X29. Innocence Faded, 2-17-1
X30. Lost Not Forgotten, 2-18
X31. Hollow Years, 1-18-1
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-19-1
Tiebreakers will be applied to determine final standings. It will come down to tiebreakers for the 15th and 16th seeds. The bottom four songs are set for demotion.
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Division 1, Week 20 Results:
Voting Thread: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46823.0
1. A Change of Seasons defeats Beyond This Life 21-4
2. The Count of Tuscany defeats Bridges in the Sky 16-9
3. Breaking All Illusions defeats Disappear 20-5
4. Endless Sacrifice defeats Blind Faith 13-12
5. Finally Free defeats Under a Glass Moon 14-10
6. In the Name of God defeats Stream of Consciousness 17-9
7. In the Presence of Enemies defeats The Spirit Carries On 14-11
8. Learning to Live defeats Space-Dye Vest 22-3
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-5
10. The Mirror defeats Misunderstood 15-10
11. The Glass Prison & Take the Time tied at 12-12
12. Scarred defeats Lines in the Sand 17-8
13. Illumination Theory defeats Surrounded 15-10
14. Voices defeats Fatal Tragedy 13-12
15. Home defeats Trial of Tears 16-9
16. Octavarium defeats Metropolis 14-11
Division 1 Rankings after Week 20 (Top 16 at season's end make the Division 1 Tournament. The songs ranked 29th-32nd will be demoted to Division 2.
Tiebreakers will be factored after Week 20.
A “*” indicates that the song has clinched a spot in the Division 1 Tournament.
An “X” indicates that the song has been mathematically eliminated from making the Division 1 Tournament.
*1. A Change of Seasons, 20-0
*1. Octavarium, 20-0
*3. Learning to Live, 19-1
*4. Breaking All Illusions, 18-2
*5. Metropolis, 17-3
*5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 17-3
*7. Take the Time, 15-4-1
*8. Scarred, 15-5
*9. Finally Free, 13-5-2
*10. Home, 13-7
*10. Surrounded, 13-7
*12. Illumination Theory, 12-8
*13. Trial of Tears, 11-9
*14. In the Name of God, 10-9-1
*14. Voices, 10-9-1
*16. The Count of Tuscany, 10-10
X17. The Glass Prison, 9-10-1
X18. Lines in the Sand, 9-11
X19. Fatal Tragedy, 8-11-1
X19. In the Presence of Enemies, 8-11-1
X21. The Mirror, 6-12-2
X22. Bridges in the Sky, 6-13-1
X22. The Spirit Carries On, 6-13-1
X24. Beyond This Life, 6-14
X25. Endless Sacrifice, 5-14-1
X26. Blind Faith, 4-15-1
X27. Space-Dye Vest, 4-16
X28. Under a Glass Moon, 3-16-1
X29. Misunderstood, 2-18
X30. Disappear, 1-18-1
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-19
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-20
Tiebreakers will be applied to determine final standings. The playoff field has been set. The bottom four songs are set for demotion.
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If TDoE and PA win the tiebreaker over OtBoA, my entire top 10 will make the elimination tournament throughout the three divisions.
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The regular season has come to an end. But before we jump into the Division Tournaments, it is customary that we hold tournaments for the albums themselves. The order of the tournaments will be in reverse order of highest percentage of songs in Division 1. These tournaments will have no impact on the Division Standings or Tournaments.
Seeding for these tournaments will be based on seeding in Division I, then Division 2, then Division 3, then the finish of the Outsiders Survivor.
The last of these tournaments will be one that I’m sure you’re all excited to delve into, the first legit P&S game featuring the music from the Astonishing.
We will also have a tournament pitting the albums themselves against each other.
I’ll get the album tournaments started soon, and will also finalize the Division Standings.
I’d like to add that we saw a HUGE turnout for week 1, and as the season wore on, experienced an extreme drop off in votes/interest. So I just wanted to thank those of you who….take the time, week in and week out to vote and coment on the matches and the league in whole. You are the ones who make this worthwhile. So thank you for being…..along for the ride.
Album Tournament Order.
1. When Dream & Day Unite: 0/8 = .000
2. Dream Theater: 1/9 = .111
3. Octavarium: 1/8 = .125
4. Systematic Chaos: 1/7 = .143
5. Black Clouds & Silver Linings: 1/6 = .167
6. Falling Into Infinity: 2/11 = .182
7. A Dramatic Turn of Events: 2/9 = .222
8. Scenes From a Memory: 5/12 = .417
9. Train of Thought: 3/7 = .429
10. Awake: 5/11 = .455
11. Images & Words: 5/8 = .625
12. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: 5/6 = .833
13. The Astonishing : N/A
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A couple of observations, with the regular season done and dusted.
- In Division 3, Never Enough, having finished in the bottom 4 last year and re-promoted through the Outsiders Survivor, just missed out on making the playoffs, which is a great improvement in form for the song.
- There are two songs that were promoted up to a higher division last year (thus competing against more popular songs) that did make the playoffs in their new divisions. As I Am (Div. 2, 11-7-2) and Surrounded (Div. 1, 13-7).
- With The Shattered Fortress tying its last match (maybe not a surprise in a division so full of ties this year), Lifting Shadows is the only song in the entire League to finish with a 0-20 record.
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Album tournaments underway, starting with WDADU & DT.
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When Dream & Day Unite Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. The Killing Hand
2. Afterlife
3. A Fortune In Lies
4. Ytse Jam
5. Only a Matter of Time
6. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
7. Status Seeker
8. Light Fuse and Get Away
Opening Round
1. The Killing Hand defeats 8. Light Fuse and Get Away 21-5
4. Ytse Jam defeats 5. Only a Matter of Time 13-12
3. A Fortune in Lies defeats 6. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 17-9
2. Afterlife defeats 7. Status Seeker 21-5
Semifinals
1. The Killing Hand defeats 4. Ytse Jam 20-10
2. Afterlife defeats 3. Fortune In Lies 17-13
Finals
1. The Killing Hand defeats 2. Afterlife 19-7
The Killing Hand is the 2016 WDADU Album Champion.
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Octavarium Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Octavarium
2. The Root of All Evil
3. Sacrificed Sons
4. These Walls
5. Panic Attack
6. I Walk Beside You
7. Never Enough
8. The Answer Lies Within
Opening Round
1. Octavarium defeats 8. The Answer Lies Within 32-5
4. These Walls defeats 5. Panic Attack 19-18
3. Sacrificed Sons defeats 6. I Walk Beside You 22-15
2. The Root of All Evil defeats 7. Never Enough 31-6
Semifinals
1. Octavarium defeats 4. These Walls 34-4
2. The Root of All Evil defeats 3. Sacrificed Sons 24-14
Championship Match
1. Octavarium defeats 2. The Root of All Evil 31-6
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Systematic Chaos Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. In the Presence of Enemies
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls
3. Constant Motion
3. Forsaken
5. The Dark Eternal Night
6. Prophets of War
7. Repentance
Opening Round
5. The Dark Eternal Night defeats 4. Forsaken 18-16
3. Constant Motion defeats 6. Repentance 22-13
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats Prophets of War 30-6
Semifinal Round
1. In the Presence of Enemies defeats 5. The Dark Eternal Night 31-4
2. The Ministry of Lost Souls defeats 3. Constant Motion 19-18
Championship Match
1. In the Presence of Enemies defeats 2. The Ministry of Lost Souls 25-7
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Black Clouds & Silver Linings Tournament
Seeding:
1. The Count of Tuscany
2. A Nightmare to Remember
3. The Shattered Fortress
4. The Best of Times
5. Wither
6. A Rite of Passage
Opening Round
5. Wither defeats 4. The Best of Times 18-13
3. The Shattered Fortress defeats 6. A Rite of Passage 22-9
Semifinals
1. The Count of Tuscany defeats 5. Wither 23-8
2. A Nightmare to Remember defeats 3. The Shattered Fortress 19-12
Championship Match
1. The Count of Tuscany defeats 2. A Nightmare to Remember 32-6
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Division Three Final Standings
*1. Honor Thy Father, 19-0-1
*2. Beneath the Surface, 18-0-2
*3. Behind the Veil, 16-3-1
*4. Constant Motion, 15-3-2
*5. Forsaken, 16-4
*6. The Silent Man, 13-4-3
*7. The Looking Glass, 14-6
*8. I Walk Beside You, 14-6
*9. Along for the Ride, 14-6
*10. New Millennium, 12-6-2
*11. Raise the Knife, 12-7-1
*12. The Best of Times, 11-7-2
*13. Vacant, 10-7-3
*14. The Killing Hand, 11-8-1
*15. Wither, 10-8-2
*16. Afterlife, 11-9
X17. Never Enough, 10-9-1
X18. The Dark Eternal Night, 8-11-1
X19. To Live Forever, 8-12
X20. False Awakening Suite, 7-10-2
X21. The Answer Lies Within, 7-12-1
X22. Far From Heaven, 7-12-1
X23. Through Her Eyes, 5-12-3
X24. A Fortune in Lies, 6-13-1
X25. Ytse Jam, 6-13-1
X26. Anna Lee, 3-14-3
X27. Repentance, 3-15-2
X28. Only a Matter of Time, 3-15-2
X29. Enigma Machine, 3-16-1
X30. Eve, 3-16-1
X31. A Rite of Passage, 2-17-1
X32. Prophets of War, 1-18-1
Tiebreaker for #4 Seed:
1. Head to head. – Did not meet this season.
2. Strength of victory (Total Wins by songs defeated) - CM = 122, Forsaken = 111
Tiebreaker for #7 & #8 Seeds
1. Head to Head – TLG defeats AFTR 18-10 in Week 3
IWBY defeats AFTR 14-9 in Week 6
IWBY & TLG did not face-off this season.
2. Strength of victory (Total Wins by songs defeated) – TLG = 122, IWBY = 116
Tiebreaker for #15 Seed
1. Head to Head – Wither defeats Afterlife 11-8 in Week 19.
Tiebreaker for #19 Seed
1. Head to Head – To Live Forever defeats False Awakening Suite 23-12 in Week 1.
Tiebreaker for #21 Seed
1. Head to Head – The Answer Lies Within defeats Far From Heaven 13-8 in Round 14.
Tiebreaker for #23 Seed
1. Head to Head – AFIL & Ytse Jam tied 13-13 in Week 8.
AFIL & THE did not face off this season.
Ytse Jam & THE did not face off this season.
2. Strength of victory (Total Wins by songs defeated) – THE = 34, AFIL = 29, Ytse Jam = 27
Tiebreaker for #27 Seed
Head to Head – Repentance defeats Only a Matter of Time 16-12 in Week 8
Tiebreaker for #29 Seed
1. Head to Head – Tied at 9-9 in Week 20
2. Strength of Victory – EM = 13, Eve = 6
Division Two Final Standings
*1. Strange Déjà vu, 19-1
*2. Pull Me Under, 17-2-1
*3. The Root of All Evil, 17-3
*4. Sacrificed Sons, 16-3-1
*5. These Walls, 15-4-1
*6. Erotomania, 14-5-1
*7. Overture 1928, 14-5-1
*8. The Great Debate, 14-5-1
*9. The Bigger Picture, 13-6-1
*10. Another Day. 13-6-1
*11. Caught in a Web, 11-7-2
*12. As I Am, 11-7-2
*13. Wait for Sleep, 11-7-2
*14. Hell’s Kitchen, 10-7-3
*15. The Dance of Eternity, 10-8-2
*16. On the Backs of Angels, 11-9
X17. Panic Attack, 9-7-4
X18. Outcry, 10-9-1
X19. This Dying Soul, 9-10-1
X20. 6:00, 8-11-1
X21. Surrender to Reason, 8-11-1
X22. Lie, 7-13
X23. This is the Life, 6-13-1
X24. The Ministry of Lost Souls, 5-12-3
X25. The Enemy Inside, 6-14
X26. One Last Time, 5-15
X27. Peruvian Skies, 4-14-2
X28. A Nightmare to Remember, 4-16
X29. Innocence Faded, 2-17-1
X30. Lost Not Forgotten, 2-18
X31. Hollow Years, 1-18-1
X32. The Shattered Fortress, 0-19-1
Tiebreaker for #6 & #7 Seeds
1. Head to Head – Overture 1928 defeats The Great Debate 11-10
- The Great Debate & Erotomania did not meet this year.
- Erotomania & Overture 1928 did not meet this year.
2. Strength of Victory (Total Wins of defeated songs) - Overture 1928 = 116, Erotomania = 117, TGD = 101,
Tiebreaker for #9 Seed
1. Head to Head – The Bigger Picture defeats Another Day 15-14 in Week 11.
Tiebreaker for #11 & #12 Seeds
1. Head to Head – As I Am defeats Wait For Sleep 13-11 in Week 10.
Caught in a Web & Wait For Sleep tied at 13-13 in Week 4.
As I Am & Caught in a Web did not meet this season.
2. Strength of Victory (Total Wins of Defeated Songs) – CIAW = 67, AIA = 64, WFS = 64.
Tiebreaker for #15 &16 Seeds
1. Head to Head – On The Backs of Angels Defeats The Dance of Eternity 11-9 in Week 19.
- On the Backs of Angels & Panic Attack did not meet this season.
- The Dance of Eternity & Panic Attack did not meet this season.
2. Strength of Victory (Total Wins of defeated songs) – TDoE = 67, OtBoA = 58, PA = 48
Tiebreaker for #20 Seed.
1. Head to Head – 6:00 defeats Surrender to Reason 15-12 in Week 11.
Tiebreaker for #23 Seed.
1. Head to Head – This is the Life defeats The Ministry of Lost Souls 17-14 in Week 14.
Tiebreaker for #26 Seed.
1. Head to Head – Did not meet this season.
2. Strength of Victory (Total Wins of Defeated Songs) – OLT = 27, PS = 19
Division 1 Final Standings
*1. Octavarium, 20-0
*2. A Change of Seasons, 20-0
*3. Learning to Live, 19-1
*4. Breaking All Illusions, 18-2
*5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 17-3
*6. Metropolis, 17-3
*7. Take the Time, 15-4-1
*8. Scarred, 15-5
*9. Finally Free, 13-5-2
*10. Home, 13-7
*11. Surrounded, 13-7
*12. Illumination Theory, 12-8
*13. Trial of Tears, 11-9
*14. In the Name of God, 10-9-1
*15. Voices, 10-9-1
*16. The Count of Tuscany, 10-10
X17. The Glass Prison, 9-10-1
X18. Lines in the Sand, 9-11
X19. Fatal Tragedy, 8-11-1
X20. In the Presence of Enemies, 8-11-1
X21. The Mirror, 6-12-2
X22. Bridges in the Sky, 6-13-1
X23. The Spirit Carries On, 6-13-1
X24. Beyond This Life, 6-14
X25. Endless Sacrifice, 5-14-1
X26. Blind Faith, 4-15-1
X27. Space-Dye Vest, 4-16
X28. Under a Glass Moon, 3-16-1
X29. Misunderstood, 2-18
X30. Disappear, 1-18-1
X31. Stream of Consciousness, 1-19
X32. Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 0-20
Tiebreaker for #1 Seed
1. Head to Head – Did not face each other this season.
2. Strength of Victory/Schedule – 8VM = 174, ACOS = 168.
Tiebreaker for #5 Seed
1. Head to Head – Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeated Metropolis 17-12 in Week 9.
Tiebreaker for #10 Seed
1. Head to Head – Did not face off this season.
2. Strength of Victory (Total wins of defeated songs) – Home = 81, Surrounded = 61.
Tiebreaker for #14 Seed
1. Head to Head = In the Name of God defeats Voices 14-12 in Week 5
Tiebreaker for #19 Seed
1. Head to Head = Fatal Tragedy defeats In the Presence of Enemies 14-12 in Week 7.
Tiebreakers for #22 Seed
1. Head to Head = Bridges in the Sky Defeats The Spirit Carries On 13-8 in Week 13.
Division Tournaments to begin after the album tournaments.
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Among the three divisions, the only song in my top 10 to not qualify for a spot in its respective division's tournament is Panic Attack, which missed on a tiebreaker.
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Among the three divisions, the only song in my top 10 to not qualify for a spot its respective division's tournament is Panic Attack, which missed on a tiebreaker.
That hurt my soul. Panic Attack was in my top 3 the last time I did a Top 50 list. (Pre s/t & Astonishing)
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Falling Into Infinity Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Trial of Tears
2. Lines in the Sand
3. Hell’s Kitchen
4. Peruvian Skies
5. Hollow Years
6. New Millennium
7. Anna Lee
8. Burning My Soul
9. Just Let Me Breathe
10. Take Away My Pain
11. You Not Me
Opening Round
9. Just Let Me Breathe defeats 8. Burning My Soul 16-15
6. New Millennium defeats 11. You Not Me 23-8
10. Take Away My Pain defeats 7. Anna Lee 18-13
Quarterfinal Round
1. Trial of Tears defeats 9. Just Let Me Breathe 31-2
4. Peruvian Skies defeats 5. Hollow Years 23-8
3. Hell’s Kitchen defeats 6. New Millennium 22-9
2. Lines in the Sand defeats 10. Take Away My Pain 23-8
Semifinal Round
1. Trial of Tears defeats 4. Peruvian Skies 30-9
2. Lines In the Sand defeats 3. Hell’s Kitchen 28-11
Championship Match
1. Trial of Tears defeats 2. Lines In the Sand 18-13
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A Dramatic Turn of Events Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Breaking All Illusions
2. Bridges in the Sky
3. On the Backs of Angels
4. Outcry
5. This is the Life
6. Lost Not Forgotten
7. Beneath the Surface
8. Far From Heaven
9. Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Opening Round
8. Far From Heaven defeats 9. Build Me Up, Break Me Down 19-15
Quarterfinal Round
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 8. Far From Heaven 27-1
5. This is the Life defeats 4. Outcry 15-13
6. Lost Not Forgotten defeats 3. On the Backs of Angels 14-12
2. Bridges in the Sky defeats 7. Beneath the Surface 19-10
Semifinal Round
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 5. This is the Life 35-3
2. Bridges in the Sky defeats 6. Lost Not Forgotten 32-8
Championship Match
1. Breaking All Illusions defeats 2. Bridges in the Sky 31-8
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Scenes from a Memory Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Finally Free
2. Home
3. Fatal Tragedy
4. The Spirit Carries On
5. Beyond This Life
6. Strange Déjà vu
7. Overture 1928
8. The Dance of Eternity
9. One Last Time
10. Through Her Eyes
11. Through My Words
12. Regression
Opening Round
8. The Dance of Eternity defeats 9. One Last Time 18-14
5. Beyond This Life defeats 12. Regression 28-5
6. Strange Déjà vu defeats 11. Through My Words 32-1
7. Overture 1928 defeats 10. Through Her Eyes 26-7
Quarterfinal Round
1. Finally Free defeats 8. The Dance of Eternity 31-6
4. The Spirit Carries On defeats 5. Beyond This Life 21-16
3. Fatal Tragedy defeats 6. Strange Déjà vu 24-13
2. Home defeats 7. Overture 1928 28-9
Semifinal Round
1. Finally Free defeats 4. The Spirit Carries On 28-8
2. Home defeats 3. Fatal Tragedy 25-11
Championship Match
2. Home defeats 1. Finally Free 11-10
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Train of Thought Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. In the Name of God
2. Endless Sacrifice
3. Stream of Consciousness
4. As I Am
5. This Dying Soul
6. Honor Thy Father
7. Vacant
Opening Round
5. This Dying Soul defeats As I Am 18-17 (I broke the tie by voting for TDS)
3. Stream of Consciousness defeats 6. Honor Thy Father 22-12
2. Endless Sacrifice defeats 7. Vacant 25-9
Semifinal Round
1. In the Name of God defeats 5. This Dying Soul 22-7
2. Endless Sacrifice defeats 3. Stream of Consciousness 16-15 (I broke the tie by voting for ES)
Championship Match
1. In the Name of God defeats 2. Endless Sacrifice 20-8
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Awake Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Scarred
2. Voices
3. The Mirror
4. Space-Dye Vest
5. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
6. Erotomania
7. Caught in a Web
8. 6:00
9. Lie
10. Innocence Faded
11. The Silent Man
Opening Round
9. Lie defeats 8. 6:00 20-16
6. Erotomania defeats 11. The Silent Man 28-7
7. Caught in a Web defeats 10. Innocence Faded 23-13
Quarterfinal Round
1. Scarred defeats 9. Lie 25-6
4. Space-Dye Vest defeats 5. Lifting Shadows off a Dream 19-12
3. The Mirror defeats 6. Erotomania 22-6
2. Voices defeats 7. Caught in a Web 27-4
Semifinal Round
1. Scarred defeats 4. Space-Dye Vest 23-8
2. Voices defeats 3. The Mirror 21-10
Championship Match
2. Voices defeats 1. Scarred 19-14
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Images & Words Album Tournament
Seeding:
1. Learning to Live
2. Metropolis
3. Take the Time
4. Surrounded
5. Under a Glass Moon
6. Pull Me Under
7. Another Day
8. Wait For Sleep
Opening Round
1. Learning to Live defeats 8. Wait For Sleep 24-2
4. Surrounded defeats 5. Under a Glass Moon 14-12
3. Take the Time defeats 6. Pull Me Under 19-7
2. Metropolis defeats 7. Another Day 22-4
Semifinal Round
1. Learning to Live defeats 4. Surrounded 24-6
2. Metropolis defeats 3. Take the Time 19-11
Championship Match
2. Metropolis defeats 1. Learning to Live 20-14
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Two fails in a row right here.
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Seeding:
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
2. The Glass Prison
3. Blind Faith
4. Misunderstood
5. Disappear
6. The Great Debate
Opening Round
4. Misunderstood defeats 5. Disappear 18-16
3. Blind Faith defeats 6. The Great Debate 21-13
Semifinal Round
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 4. Misunderstood 24-9
2. The Glass Prison defeats 3. Blind Faith 20-13
Championship Match
1. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 2. The Glass Prison 22-13
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Tell a friend. The Astonishing Tournament starts tomorrow. Should be fun.
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Is it me, or have these album tournaments flown by so much quicker this year? I suppose it's good, if we're also having the extra tournament at the end to put The Astonishing songs into their new divisions for next season.
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So how is the tournament for The Astonishing going to work? Is it going to be like the other album tournaments, like the regular season, or will it be a survivor?
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Is it me, or have these album tournaments flown by so much quicker this year? I suppose it's good, if we're also having the extra tournament at the end to put The Astonishing songs into their new divisions for next season.
In years past, I'd run 2 albums at once, with one starting every other day. This year, I doubled it.
This Astonishing Tournament will just be for fun, and will have no standing on the 2017 season. We'll do something a little more in-depth to work the Astonishing songs into the Divisions.
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Sorry for the delay folks. On June 1st, I welcomed my daughter into the world.... and yes, her name is Victoria :metal
Will pick this back up in a day or so.
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On June 1st, I welcomed my daughter into the world.... and yes, her name is Victoria :metal
Congratulations! :yarr
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Aww! Congratulations! :tup
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Sorry for the delay folks. On June 1st, I welcomed my daughter into the world.... and yes, her name is Victoria :metal
Will pick this back up in a day or so.
Congratulations!
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Congrats, DoC!
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Hello Victoria. So glad to see you, my friend. :D
Congrats!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bix44C1EzY
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Sorry for the delay folks. On June 1st, I welcomed my daughter into the world.... and yes, her name is Victoria :metal
Will pick this back up in a day or so.
Congrats! Is her middle name Page? ;)
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So, I guess the baby is taking up a lot of your time, huh? Who knew?
lol
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Sorry for the delay folks. On June 1st, I welcomed my daughter into the world.... and yes, her name is Victoria :metal
Will pick this back up in a day or so.
Congrats! Is her middle name Page? ;)
:lol nope.. I'm not that obsessed.
So, I guess the baby is taking up a lot of your time, huh? Who knew?
lol
Yes sir. Sorry all for the delay. Should be good now.
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The Astonishing Album Tournament
Seeding (Based on DTF Song Ratings https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=46212.msg2145582#msg2145582 ):
1. Three Days (Bye)
2. A New Beginning (Bye)
3. The Path That Divides (Bye)
4. Lord Nafaryus
5. Dystopian Overture
6. Moment of Betrayal
7. Ravenskill
8. A Better Life
9. Our New World
10. The Gift of Music
11. A Savior in the Square
12. The X Aspect
13. A Life Left Behind
14. The Walking Shadow
15. Heaven’s Cove
16. 2285 Entr’acte
17. My Last Farewell
18. When Your Time Has Come
19. A Tempting Offer
20. The Road to Revolution
21. Astonishing
22. Chosen (Coin Flip win)
23. The Answer (Coin Flip loss)
24. Act of Faythe
25. Brother, Can You Hear Me?
26. Begin Again
27. Hymn of a Thousand Voices
28. Losing Faythe
29. Whispers On the Wind
Opening Round
17. My Last Farewell defeats 16. 2285 Entr’acte 21-9
8. A Better Life defeats 25. Brother, Can You Hear Me? 29-2
9. Our New World defeats 24. Act of Faythe 24-8
5. Dystopian Overture defeats 28. Losing Faythe 25-6
12. The X Aspect defeats 21. Astonishing 20-11
4. Lord Nafaryus defeats 29. Whispers On the Wind 30-1
13. A Life Left Behind defeats 20. The Road to Revolution 21-8
19. A Tempting Offer defeats 14. The Walking Shadow 16-14
6. Moment of Betrayal defeats 27. Hymn of a Thousand Voices 22-8
11. A Savior in the Square defeats 22. Chosen 19-11
7. Ravenskill defeats 26. Begin Again 22-9
10. The Gift of Music defeats 23. The Answer 25-7
18. When Your Time Has Come defeats 15. Heaven’s Cove 19-11
Second Round.
1. Three Days defeats 17. My Last Farewell 24-6
8. A Better Life defeats 9. Our New World 16-14
5. Dystopian Overture defeats 12. The X Aspect 16-14
13. A Life Left Behind defeats 4. Lord Nafaryus 15-14
3. The Path That Divides defeats 19. A Tempting Offer 25-5
6. Moment of Betrayal defeats 11. A Savior in the Square 17-13
7. Ravenskill defeats 10. The Gift of Music 19-10
2. A New Beginning defeats 18. When Your Time Has Come 23-7
Quarterfinal Round
1. Three Days defeats 8. A Better Life 17-13
13. A Life Left Behind defeats 5. Dystopian Overture 17-14
3. The Path That Divides defeats 6. Moment of Betrayal 20-12
7. Ravenskill defeats 2. A New Beginning 16-14
Semifinal Round
1. Three Days defeats 13. A Life Left Behind 17-16
3. The Path That Divides defeats 7. Ravenskill 17-15
Championship Match
1. Three Days defeats 3. The Path That Divides 18-17
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What a masterpiece ffs!.. :hefdaddy
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So this year, 8VM, ACOS, BAI and Metropolis make the final 4. This is a change from the past two years where the final four was 8VM, ACOS, BAI & Learning to Live. :lol
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For curiosity's sake, I've taken this year's top 8 (quarter-finalists) and calculated their total regular season record for the 4 seasons of DT the League from 2013-16.
1. Octavarium - 80-0
2. A Change of Seasons - 78-2
3. Breaking All Illusions - 75-5
4. Learning to Live - 74-6
5. Metropolis - 73-6-1
6. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - 71-8-1
7. Scarred - 64-13-3
8. Home - 64-14-2
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So this year, 8VM, ACOS, BAI and Metropolis make the final 4. This is a change from the past two years where the final four was 8VM, ACOS, BAI & Learning to Live. :lol
This is the right top four as far as I'm concerned. You have their signature song in Metropolis (Pull Me Under is their biggest hit but not their signature song), their two most well regarded epics in A Change of Seasons and Octavarium, and their most well received song from the Mangini era in Breaking All Illusions.
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2016 Division 3 Tournament
Seeding
1. Honor Thy Father, 19-0-1
2. Beneath the Surface, 18-0-2
3. Behind the Veil, 16-3-1
4. Constant Motion, 15-3-2
5. Forsaken, 16-4
6. The Silent Man, 13-4-3
7. The Looking Glass, 14-6
8. I Walk Beside You, 14-6
9. Along for the Ride, 14-6
10. New Millennium, 12-6-2
11. Raise the Knife, 12-7-1
12. The Best of Times, 11-7-2
13. Vacant, 10-7-3
14. The Killing Hand, 11-8-1
15. Wither, 10-8-2
16. Afterlife, 11-9
Opening Round
1. Honor Thy Father defeats 16. Afterlife 15-14
8. I Walk Beside You defeats 9. Along For the Ride 16-13
5. Forsaken defeats 12. The Best of Times 16-13
4. Constant Motion defeats 13. Vacant 17-12
3. Behind the Veil defeats 14. The Killing Hand 18-11
11. Raise the Knife defeats 6. The Silent Man 15-14
7. The Looking Glass defeats 10. New Millennium 19-10
2. Beneath the Surface defeats 15. Wither 20-9
Quarterfinals
8. I Walk Beside You defeats 1. Honor Thy Father 20-13
4. Constant Motion defeats 5. Forsaken 18-15
3. Behind the Veil defeats 11. Raise the Knife 19-13
2. Beneath the Surface defeats 7. The Looking Glass 22-11
Semifinals
4. Constant Motion defeats 8. I Walk Beside You 14-13
3. Behind the Veil defeats 2. Beneath the Surface 16-11
Division 3 Third Place Match
2. Beneath the Surface defeats 8. I Walk Beside You 22-11
Division 3 Championship Match
3. Behind the Veil defeats 4. Constant Motion 20-12
Behind the Veil is your 2016 Division 3 Champion!
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So this year, 8VM, ACOS, BAI and Metropolis make the final 4. This is a change from the past two years where the final four was 8VM, ACOS, BAI & Learning to Live. :lol
This is the right top four as far as I'm concerned. You have their signature song in Metropolis (Pull Me Under is their biggest hit but not their signature song), their two most well regarded epics in A Change of Seasons and Octavarium, and their most well received song from the Mangini era in Breaking All Illusions.
This brings in the four most significant lineups of the band as well. Metropolis features Kevin Moore, ACOS covers the Sherinian era, Octavarium the Rudess era and BAI the Mangini era.
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So this year, 8VM, ACOS, BAI and Metropolis make the final 4. This is a change from the past two years where the final four was 8VM, ACOS, BAI & Learning to Live. :lol
This is the right top four as far as I'm concerned. You have their signature song in Metropolis (Pull Me Under is their biggest hit but not their signature song), their two most well regarded epics in A Change of Seasons and Octavarium, and their most well received song from the Mangini era in Breaking All Illusions.
This brings in the four most significant lineups of the band as well. Metropolis features Kevin Moore, ACOS covers the Sherinian era, Octavarium the Rudess era and BAI the Mangini era.
Nice way to put it..
My favorite song from each era:
MOORE: Metropolis Pt 1
SHERINIAN: Hell's Kitchen
RUDESS/PORTNOY: The Count of Tuscany
MANGINI: Ravenskill
That was harder than I expected.. :|
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Easy
MOORE: Metropolis Pt 1
SHERINIAN: A Change of Seasons
RUDESS/PORTNOY: Sacrificed Sons
MANGINI: Breaking All Illusions
Just so happen to be 4 out of 5 of my top 5 DT songs too
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MOORE: Learning to Live
SHERINIAN: A Change of Seasons
RUDESS/PORTNOY: SDoIT
MANGINI: Illumination Theory
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2016 Division 2 Tournament
Seeding
1. Strange Déjà vu, 19-1
2. Pull Me Under, 17-2-1
3. The Root of All Evil, 17-3
4. Sacrificed Sons, 16-3-1
5. These Walls, 15-4-1
6. Erotomania, 14-5-1
7. Overture 1928, 14-5-1
8. The Great Debate, 14-5-1
9. The Bigger Picture, 13-6-1
10. Another Day. 13-6-1
11. Caught in a Web, 11-7-2
12. As I Am, 11-7-2
13. Wait for Sleep, 11-7-2
14. Hell’s Kitchen, 10-7-3
15. The Dance of Eternity, 10-8-2
16. On the Backs of Angels, 11-9
Opening Round
1. Strange Déjà vu defeats 16. On the Backs of Angels 18-5
8. The Great Debate defeats 9. The Bigger Picture 13-9
5. These Walls defeats 12. As I Am 15-8
13. Wait For Sleep defeats 4. Sacrificed Sons 12-11
3. The Root of All Evil defeats 14. Hell’s Kitchen 15-8
6. Erotomania defeats 11. Caught in a Web 13-10
10. Another Day defeats Overture 1928 15-8
2. Pull Me Under defeats 15. The Dance of Eternity 13-10
Quarterfinals
1. Strange Déjà vu defeats 8. The Great Debate 24-12
5. These Walls defeats 13. Wait For Sleep 20-15
3. The Root of All Evil defeats 6. Erotomania 22-14
2. Pull Me Under defeats 10. Another Day 22-14
Semifinals
5. These Walls defeats 1. Strange Déjà vu 16-15
2. Pull Me Under defeats 3. The Root of All Evil 18-12
Division 2 Third Place Match
3. The Root of All Evil defeats 1. Strange Déjà vu 14-13
Division 2 Championship Match
5. These Walls defeats 2. Pull Me Under 15-13
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2016 Division 1 Tournament
Seeding
1. Octavarium, 20-0
2. A Change of Seasons, 20-0
3. Learning to Live, 19-1
4. Breaking All Illusions, 18-2
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, 17-3
6. Metropolis, 17-3
7. Take the Time, 15-4-1
8. Scarred, 15-5
9. Finally Free, 13-5-2
10. Home, 13-7
11. Surrounded, 13-7
12. Illumination Theory, 12-8
13. Trial of Tears, 11-9
14. In the Name of God, 10-9-1
15. Voices, 10-9-1
16. The Count of Tuscany, 10-10
Opening Round
1. Octavarium defeats 16. The Count of Tuscany 26-5
8. Scarred defeats 9. Finally Free 18-13
5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence defeats 12. Illumination Theory 20-11
4. Breaking All Illusions defeats 13. Trial of Tears 17-14
3. Learning to Live defeats 14. In the Name of God 22-9
6. Metropolis defeats 11. Surrounded 27-3
10. Home defeats 7. Take the Time 16-15
2. A Change of Seasons defeats 15. Voices 23-8
Quarterfinal Round
1. Octavarium defeats 8. Scarred 25-7
4. Breaking All Illusions defeats 5. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence 21-11
6. Metropolis defeats 3. Learning to Live 19-13
2. A Change of Seasons defeats 10. Home 20-11
Semifinal Round
1. Octavarium defeats 4. Breaking All Illusions 22-10
2. A Change of Seasons defeats 6. Metropolis 17-15
Division 1 Third Place Match
6. Metropolis defeats 4. Breaking All Illusions 17-13
Division 1 Championship Match
1. Octavarium defeats 2. A Change of Seasons 17-12
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Thank you to everyone who took the time to vote. This season started in December and the tournaments just wrapped up in July. Once again, we are trapped inside this Octavarium.
It's been a good 4 year run. Will have to see if I have time to do it again next year. If not, someone else can take over, or go the survivor route. We shall see.
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A worthy winner and my #3 track ;D Thanks for all the hard work again DoC! :metal
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It's been fun. Thanks for hosting this, DoC! And if it is to be your last one, have a happy retirement! :tup