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........................is to send me some kick ass music from albums I don't have in my collection
tl:dr version : Anywhere from 5 to 10 participants wanted to send me some good shit.
PARTICIPANTS:
Bolsters
Evermind
jingle.boy
TAC
wolfking
Sacul
kingshmegland
splent
Big Hath
jjrock88
Lowdz
erwinrafael
Welcome folks and thanks for accepting your mission. "Impossible" is the first thing that comes to mind for some (including me) when it comes to a BL5150 roulette...............hence the theme :) And the fact that I can be a difficult bastard to impress. :hat :angel: If anyone can do it though , I know you guys can.
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Long,boring post ahead.......just jump ahead to whatever section you need.
MY TASTE - OR LACK OF:
Tastes huh?.........so hard to judge . Why is it that we share so much in terms of taste and yet I can’t hear the overwhelming brilliance of the latest Maiden or Opeth album and some other poor souls can't hear the brilliance of Winger, Poison and Nitro ? It’s all very hard to fathom but I’m going to try and give you as much guidance as I can anyway.
1) Be Careful : Anything with harsh/growly vocals or in a genre that includes “core”,”death”,”math”,”modern”,”post”, rap,”ambient”,”neo””sludge”,punk .....or anything to do with gazing at shoes. Just be very careful. Chances are you’re going to be caned with the rating if I don’t like it but if you’re convinced you can win me over then go for it and you might just get a bonus in addition to your high score (later).
2)AOR/melodic rock /classic rock: If anything my tastes have become a little heavier in recent times but I still love these styles when done well and am happy to receive anything from AOR/westcoast to the hardest melodic rock/hair metal. Just make sure it has something to make it stand out as if there’s one genre where I’ve come close to hearing it all ,then this is it. My collection is weak in terms of classic bands originating in the 60's-70’s like Led Zep ,The Eagles, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones etc....there is a reason for that (I like much less music from that era) but I do enjoy some of the hits from such bands so don't be shy about trying them if you think they can impress .
3) Hard rock/classic metal/power metal/thrash : Go for it...... great melodies, some balls and nice guitars go a long way. Just be aware with the power metal that generally I prefer riff based (slower) power metal to double kick drumathons. Clever use of the double kick is great but the traditional happy one paced power metal wears thin very quick. When it comes to thrash I want clean vocals and some melody.
4) Blues: I don’t listen to much but I do like blues that rocks a la Gary Moore/Eric Clapton (some)/SRV in small doses. I don’t really go for traditional blues in the style of BB King etc...
5) Classical: I basically never listen to it , although I did study it fairly extensively in my music studies. I would rather listen to it than most of the stuff on the radio though. Happy for you to try.
6) Pop : It’s possible you may be able to sway me on some pop. If you think I’ll like it ,then go for it. I never listen to anything that I’d call “pop” these days and didn’t get into too much back in the day either outside of radio. Having said that there’s plenty of stuff by Phil Collins , Hall & Oates and the little Tears For Fears I know etc.... that I find quite listenable if there’s some catchy melodies. I heard Against All Odds on the radio recently and thought to myself "That's pretty damn good." And Aussie pop rock band Noiseworks made my all time DTF Top 50 , much to a few people’s disgust :lol
7) Prog: I love prog metal , but only when melodic and with a structure that makes sense and goes somewhere. Endless wankery without melody does nothing for me , nor does music that meanders around endlessly. My fave DT albums by some way are Images and Words(close enough to my all time favourite album), Awake and the last two , if that helps. Old style prog/neo prog I generally don’t like....most of it just makes me feel like it’s “there” and not going anywhere. One poster on DTF in particular has mentioned a couple of neo prog bands that I really liked , so there is definitely hope. Kingcrow is an example of a band that has managed to hit the bullseye with some of their stuff.
And if the 90’s classics thread is anything to go by –please don’t send anything that’s considered a 90’s classic ;D
FWIW my DTF top 50 included AOR (Chicago, Giant) , hard rock (Van Halen, KISS, Whitesnake, Skid Row), classic metal (Metal Church, Judas Priest, Ozzy, WASP, Savatage), power metal (Stratovarius) , prog metal (DT, Queensryche, SX, Labyrinth, Conception, Threshold) , classic rock (Doobie Brothers), instrumental guitar (Satriani), female fronted (After Forever) , pop rock (Noiseworks)........even Pink Floyd got a slot with A Momentary Lapse of Reason. Although that all seems a bit one dimensional to some , that's hugely diversified taste to me ;D
BANNED ARTISTS/ALBUMS:
I’ve tried , with little success, to think of a way to approach a banned list that covers my collection and doesn't become ridiculous. Basically if I don’t have the ALBUM in my collection it is allowed. I have already pre-approved a swag of artists with TAC, Bolsters and jingle.boy , so I am more than happy to do that for anyone that has similar taste to me and is worried about the risk of rejected submissions back and forward – it can save a lot of time. Just send me a list of artists you’re thinking of using and I’ll respond with those I’ll allow and/or the albums I don’t have .
I think that'll work better than an infinitely long banned list of artists where some albums may actually be accepted. If you're desperate then have a look at some of the other roulettes in recent times - I would say 90% of the artists submitted are news to me. ;D
Those of you that have less in common with my taste , just send away and we'll deal with any re-submissions as we go.
Once an artist has been submitted it is banned for the rest of the roulette.
FORMAT:
I would prefer to use email as I have been gifted a tiny PM inbox on DTF . My email is BL5150 at westnet dot com dot au
For the music mp3 via email would be preferable but Youtube links are fine ,as are cloud account links. I don't have a Spotify account or the like.
RULES/TACTICS
What I would like to do is to introduce some tactics into the equation, potential reward for risk and give those who’ve fallen behind a chance to stage a comeback with some ballsy play . The following rules have been made with this in mind:
1) Rounds: There will be 11 rounds ,divided into 5 prelims , 5 regular competition rounds and a Grand Final.
In order to allow you some room to experiment early on (especially those who may not know my taste as well as others) your three highest scores only from the prelim rounds will be carried forward to the regular competition rounds. So feel free to really test the boundaries, get a feel for my preferences and go for a slam dunk in the prelims as you can afford two horror rounds in the first five without penalty. There will be no such flexibility in Rounds 6 – 11.
The final 11th round will be contested by the Top 5 6 as at the end of Rd 10 and is a 20 min EP round – submit 18 to 20 mins of music made up however you like.........it could be a single epic or five 4 minute songs.
2) Scoring: The basic scoring format will be a rating out of 10 (except Rd 11). I have given a guide as to what the ratings mean below
3) Bonus : I reserve the right to add a half bonus point where someone pleasantly shocks me with something I deem to be “way out of my comfort zone” , so if you take a risk a score of 10.5 is possible . These will be given out very sparingly (if at all) and require a base score of 8 or better for the track .
4) Themed Bonus : I have decided not to theme rounds , mostly because I reckon they disadvantage a portion of the players (translation: they’ve cost me dearly in a roulette or two as a participant :lol ) and can leave participants unable to send a lot of stuff they really wanted to. As an alternative I have an OPTIONAL bonus point system related to a couple of areas that interest me – you can attract a bonus point for a submission that is either an instrumental or a song from one of the following "DTF faves" that have never done much for me from the songs I have sampled:
Tool
Devin Townsend/DTP
Spock’s Beard
Neal Morse
Ayreon and other Arjen stuff except Star One (which I do like a bit).
Pain Of Salvation
Riverside
Steve Wilson
Porcupine Tree
Rush (aside from stuff from Moving Pictures)
Opeth (aside from Damnation)
Amorphis
Anathema
The Dear Hunter
Coheed & Cambria
Destiny Potato
Sigur Ros
Oceansize
Tesseract
Haken
Genesis - nothing off their "The Hits" compilation (reserved for Tim ;) )
Muse
Periphery
Leprous
Sun Caged
IQ
King Crimson
The Flower Kings
Geoff Tate :neverusethis:
All of these artists are a risk but if you feel confident and think that the bonus point can make a difference then fire away.
(limit 2 bonus points per person during the roulette. And only one instrumental/ one DTF fave bonus point per person)
This way ,if you are weak in instrumentals or don’t wish to take the risk on the DTF faves , then just keep submitting cool rock and metal or whatever. A regular 9/10 will always beat a 6/10 + bonus point. Let me know the tracks for which you wish to claim a bonus point.
5) The Winner : will have made the Top 5 after Round 10 and won the Grand Final with 20 mins of awesome. A life size cutout of my favourite Kip Winger photo will be up for grabs - not in 3D as that could be dangerous.
Scores will NOT be zeroed for the Grand Final as I don't want to diminish the efforts of the leaders to that point BUT Round 11 will be a score out of 20 , so there is potential for a big comeback if the leaders slack off in the "Granny".
RATINGS: (what is he thinking?)
2: Close to unlistenable (but I forced myself)
4: very few redeeming features and I struggled with the listen
6: Some redeeming qualities- decent enough song but I have no real desire to listen other than very occasionally
7.5: A really solid song that had me involved . happy to hear it semi-regularly but not a stand out track
9: A great song that had me very involved and will be on regular rotation. Not quite a classic
10: As for 9 but could grow to be an all time favourite/classic with more spins
All of the above descriptions relate to my opinion ,nothing more.
QUESTIONS: Feel free to ask me questions about my taste in the thread only (not PM) so everyone can see a response. I will not answer questions about specific bands , just general info.
Any band that is submitted becomes banned for the remainder of the roulette ,so get in early if you have concerns about being gazumped. If two people submit the same band for the same round then I will accept both - if it gets to a third then I will ask for another entry. I am prepared to accept one extra round in advance at any time. If you're away or otherwise tied up (hold back on the detail :biggrin: ) then just let me know and we'll work something out.
I am in the middle of a whole lot of stuff at the moment myself (incl selling a house and moving) so apologies in advance if I slack off from time to time , but I will be aiming to get through at least a round every 4-5 days ( 3 per fortnight).
I won't start getting on your case or listening until Shadow Ninja has finished his roulette , so let's say that everyone has about a week to get some ideas together , ask questions and get cracking on Round 1...
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Got some work to do here. I'll try and get a list up and running and send it through tonight Brent. Sending something you don't know that's also quality is going to be a challenge for all, but let's do it.
Most of my rips are wma, is that okay?
Would love to win that Kip Winger cut out too.
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I'd like to play on this one. I know a pair of great obscure bands - expecting last place tho :lol
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I'd like to play on this one. I know a pair of great obscure bands - expecting last place tho :lol
Glad to have you along Sacul.
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Most of my rips are wma, is that okay?
I think that'll be okay Kade - I don't use anything much but iTunes as a player but those will play in the native Windows Media Player i imagine.
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Bleep it.
I'm in.
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Well I'll do it because I want to try this before I actually do it :lol
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Well I'll do it because I want to try this before I actually do it :lol
Done and good to have you on board.........I replied to your question on forum settings too btw.
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jeez, I don't know if I could come up with 10 artists that would be of interest to you. I mean, I could fill up your inbox with instrumentals, "DTF faves", and classical I suppose. :lol
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jeez, I don't know if I could come up with 10 artists that would be of interest to you. I mean, I could fill up your inbox with instrumentals, "DTF faves", and classical I suppose. :lol
Obviously I am hoping to discover new bands here but don't forget that I am happy to accept missing albums in my collection from artists of mutual interest..........a band named after a US state's transit authority for instance. Just let me know the bands you're thinking of and I'll give you the info you need, if that helps.
You will have no trouble mate. ;)
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Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play.
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Put me in, coach. I'm ready to play.
Great...........this lineup is looking fantastic.
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Cool idea on prelims, I can send some songs I wasn't sure about.
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So where is the legendary banned list? :P
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So where is the legendary banned list? :P
Look in the original post under the heading "BANNED ARTISTS/ALBUMS" where you'll find no list :P :lol
I have well in excess of 2500 artists in my collection that should be on a banned list and in my opinion it's not practical. Those who share a lot in common with my taste are pre-approving stuff. I have been part of a few roulettes with you Sacul and I don't expect a lot of crossover in our collections , so just fire away and in the unlikely event that I already have the song/album in question then I will request a re-submission.
I know the Banned List can be a good indicator of the host's taste in music , which is why I put the extra time into the boring essay on my musical tastes.
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I suppose I should address the topic of harsh vocals (and will update the OP).........in my collection I believe I have two discs with some degree of harsh vocals on songs that I really love - that's something like 0.03% of my collection. One is by the band After Forever where the harsh vocals are used sparingly enough that they fail to distract me from the brilliant Floor Jansen. The other is an obscure Aussie thrash band where the guitars are that catchy that I hardly notice the vocals.
As a rule though - not a great idea.
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This may be a grind, but I'll give it a shot
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No grinding while in this thread please. And I hope you read what I said about growls jj - that'll cut your options right down ;D
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No grinding while in this thread please. And I hope you read what I said about growls jj - that'll cut your options right down ;D
lol
There is as much of a chance in me sending you growls as there is me sending country, rap, pop, electronica, hip hop, trance (ie- not a chance)
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MIght be a complete waste of time as we have very similar tastes, and you go far deeper than even I have! I'll give it a go for the shits and giggles though.
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Awesome Paul.
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Well I'll do it because I want to try this before I actually do it :lol
You might've picked the worst one to join.
But it is a good idea to play in a couple to get the gist.
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Following, cuz new music.
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The other is an obscure Aussie thrash band where the guitars are that catchy that I hardly notice the vocals.
Do tell.
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It's in your roulette playlist :neverusethis: :impatient:
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Well played sir.
Brent from the guys sending you a list to check over, were they big lists? I could make a big one but seems like I should have done more homework more.
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Most of my rips are wma, is that okay?
I think that'll be okay Kade - I don't use anything much but iTunes as a player but those will play in the native Windows Media Player i imagine.
itunes should convert them straight into it anyway I believe. I can alter if there is an issue.
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Well played sir.
Brent from the guys sending you a list to check over, were they big lists? I could make a big one but seems like I should have done more homework more.
Don't worry about it - no banned list makes it harder (esp for those of us into many of the same bands) and this is how we're working around it. I can't remember numbers but it's likely >>50 artists I have checked out/ commented on for each of the others , so I'm not going to limit you within reason.
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50 is cool, more than what I had in mind. I'll email you something.
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5) The Winner : will have made the Top 5 after Round 10 and won the Grand Final with 20 mins of awesome. A life size cutout of my favourite Kip Winger photo will be up for grabs - not in 3D as that could be dangerous.
I might have to rethink my participation then. :neverusethis:
Seriously, I'm all over this like a cougar on a wounded chicken.
Question... if we send an instrumental from one of those 'bonus' bands, are two bonus points up for grabs? Kinda joking, kinda serious. Also, do we 'squat' on the band that we want to use now (and publicly), or just submit in Round 1 to make sure Ruslan doesn't cock-block me. :lol
@ Kade... I sent a few queries over the last few weeks, maybe 10-20 bands each time. I'm now working on a list of about 50-60 bands I know I can call from, and with the above information, I can find a few more from the 70s. Diggin the format.
Beast of a group to compete against here. Hope Splent's head doesn't explode. :lol
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Thanks Chad. Just sent Brent about 55 bands at once looking through my library, and not confident I'll get many back. If only you people could handle some man growls you'll make my job so much easier. Still threatening to send some too. Probably will have too.
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My list was about 70 I think, though a lot were rejected and a bunch of others are last ditch kind of things that I'd rather not send at all.
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My list was about 70 I think, though a lot were rejected and a bunch of others are last ditch kind of things that I'd rather not send at all.
I know that well.
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I still have a handful that I didn't check either, as I'll seriously shart myself if he knows them. Then again, he's got Big House and Slik Toxik, so getting some Canadian Glam past his collection will be a feat. Though, the band I have in mind wasn't much more than a bar band - though, a very well known Canadian melodic industry icon did contribute to and engineer their only studio album.
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Question... if we send an instrumental from one of those 'bonus' bands, are two bonus points up for grabs? Kinda joking, kinda serious. Also, do we 'squat' on the band that we want to use now (and publicly), or just submit in Round 1 to make sure Ruslan doesn't cock-block me. :lol
Only one bonus point per track but if your instrumental is from a "DTF fave" then I will allow you to choose whether that bonus point comes from the instrumental or "DTF fave" grouping.
if you are worried about being "cock-blocked" I would go early and go hard :lol As per the rules I will allow both tracks if you cock block each other in the first round (I'm laughing as I type this) , but other than that once it is submitted it is banned.
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^ roger that.
And hey... I just noticed the lack of lonestar on the participation list. Finally, I don't have to feel bad about using tunes he's put me on to - not that I ever do anyway... well, maybe just a little.
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I still have a handful that I didn't check either, as I'll seriously shart myself if he knows them. Then again, he's got Big House and Slik Toxik, so getting some Canadian Glam past his collection will be a feat. Though, the band I have in mind wasn't much more than a bar band - though, a very well known Canadian melodic industry icon did contribute to and engineer their only studio album.
I got a Cannuck one past you!
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I still have a handful that I didn't check either, as I'll seriously shart myself if he knows them. Then again, he's got Big House and Slik Toxik, so getting some Canadian Glam past his collection will be a feat. Though, the band I have in mind wasn't much more than a bar band - though, a very well known Canadian melodic industry icon did contribute to and engineer their only studio album.
I got a Cannuck one past you!
You did indeedy. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once and a while. :lol
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Also, do we 'squat' on the band that we want to use now (and publicly), or just submit in Round 1 to make sure Ruslan doesn't cock-block me. :lol
Dude, I'm playing in your own damn roulette. I'm not going to do that. :lol
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How do I know what and when to send
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He'll let us know when to send the first song and he's leaving it open every round on what to send. It's up to you and if you think he'll like it.
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He'll let us know when to send the first song and he's leaving it open every round on what to send. It's up to you and if you think he'll like it.
I have ideas. I'm very eclectic
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Now you have to tailor what you like to what you think Brent will like. Then adjust seeing his scores.
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Now you have to tailor what you like to what you think Brent will like. Then adjust seeing his scores.
Yeah I have a few ideas up my sleeve.
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Ok, public question time. I love me my concept albums. Any rule against sending 2 songs as one entry... like an introductory track, or a pair of songs that just pair perfectly together (eg We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions)?
So long as they're not both 10 minute songs... but like a pair that run 7-8 mins or something like that?
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I wouldn't see any problem with that.
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Ok, public question time. I love me my concept albums. Any rule against sending 2 songs as one entry... like an introductory track, or a pair of songs that just pair perfectly together (eg We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions)?
So long as they're not both 10 minute songs... but like a pair that run 7-8 mins or something like that?
You raise an interesting point here - here's hoping your songs are as awesome as your questions :neverusethis:
I am glad that you mention the time thing - if I say "Yes" I imagine some smart ass will submit something like SFAM and say "it's meant to be listened to as a whole" :lol
Seeing as you mention concept albums , I will comment on that too. I have never subsrcibed to the theory that boring songs (not interludes) that have no real listening value as individual tracks can be made up for by an amazing concept. I reckon I have 4 concept albums in my collection that are something special to me.
1 Queensryche -Operation : Mindcrime
2 Savatage: Streets
3 WASP: The Crimson Idol
4 obscure and will likely be sent in the jingle.roulette
I might have forgotten one there (not SFAM either)
In each of these cases the concept that permeates the album just adds to some already awesome songs. Most of the rest I tend to feel like the concept has been shoe horned in at the expense of the songs. I want to be able to listen to individual tracks and enjoy them almost as much on their own.
As far as song pairs go ..............yes , but I will need a good explanation as to why they "belong" together. I sent a "2 track entry" to Big Hath in his roulette where there was a short instrumental intro to a vocal song at the start of the album. The two clearly belong together and there was no time gap on the album , even though they were listed as individual tracks. In the case of the Queen songs (I wouldn't say I have a lot of Queen btw , aside from Greatest Hits and a few albums) I think that would be acceptable as they were released as a double A-side and were constantly played back to back on the radio.
So case by case and with a good explanation as to why the artist intended them to be listened to as a whole. If it's just a short vocal/instrumental intro then just send it.
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I just did it to Chad in his and didn't even ask. :hat It was just an intro though. I'm out til tomorrow, but Brent probably gonna come up with another 50 or so bands to run past you tomorrow. :lol
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I just did it to Chad in his and didn't even ask. :hat It was just an intro though. I'm out til tomorrow, but Brent probably gonna come up with another 50 or so bands to run past you tomorrow. :lol
All rejected ;D
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I just did it to Chad in his and didn't even ask. :hat It was just an intro though. I'm out til tomorrow, but Brent probably gonna come up with another 50 or so bands to run past you tomorrow. :lol
All rejected ;D
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So wait instead of just sending you a track I should put together a list of 50 bands that I think you may like and see if you're willing?
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So wait instead of just sending you a track I should put together a list of 50 bands that I think you may like and see if you're willing?
Just have the one song ready to send but work on the others to send.
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So wait instead of just sending you a track I should put together a list of 50 bands that I think you may like and see if you're willing?
I will respond with a couple of quotes from above , and then comment further below......
So where is the legendary banned list? :P
Look in the original post under the heading "BANNED ARTISTS/ALBUMS" where you'll find no list :P :lol
I have well in excess of 2500 artists in my collection that should be on a banned list and in my opinion it's not practical. Those who share a lot in common with my taste are pre-approving stuff. I have been part of a few roulettes with you Sacul and I don't expect a lot of crossover in our collections , so just fire away and in the unlikely event that I already have the song/album in question then I will request a re-submission.
I know the Banned List can be a good indicator of the host's taste in music , which is why I put the extra time into the boring essay on my musical tastes.
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BANNED ARTISTS/ALBUMS:
I’ve tried , with little success, to think of a way to approach a banned list that covers my collection and doesn't become ridiculous. Basically if I don’t have the ALBUM in my collection it is allowed. I have already pre-approved a swag of artists with TAC, Bolsters and jingle.boy , so I am more than happy to do that for anyone that has similar taste to me and is worried about the risk of rejected submissions back and forward – it can save a lot of time. Just send me a list of artists you’re thinking of using and I’ll respond with those I’ll allow and/or the albums I don’t have .
I think that'll work better than an infinitely long banned list of artists where some albums may actually be accepted. If you're desperate then have a look at some of the other roulettes in recent times - I would say 90% of the artists submitted are news to me. ;D
Those of you that have less in common with my taste , just send away and we'll deal with any re-submissions as we go.
The Banned List is the way things are normally done and I expect that will be the way to go when you host your own roulette. Just list 50-100 or more artists who form the bulk of your collection and ask the participants to avoid those bands. I have gone a different way for the reasons quoted above.
The pre-approval process is something I opened up mostly for those guys in the roulette who I know have a lot of albums in common with my collection (most of them) , in order to largely avoid re-submissions during the roulette. I am uncertain as to how much common ground we share in musical tastes but my OP will give you some idea .
It's entirely up to you. Just submit a song and see how we go (I will ask for a re-submission if I already have it) or send me a few bands you are thinking of and I will let you know if I have them in advance etc.......
When I am a participant I will generally come into Rd 1 with a short list of bands I think might be appropriate and then vary things as I get a better handle on the host's tastes as he/she comments on the songs submitted along the way.
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Damn didn't notice that :lol . Will send a short list in a while.
edit: Sent.
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Started my listening and lining stuff up last night.
How many rounds is this? This would be difficult if it was only 4 rounds!
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I now have a Banned List.
BANNED
1. Asking questions about things that are clearly covered in the OP
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How many rounds is this?
2. Whining.
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This would be difficult if it was only 4 rounds!
Keep it to Chad's thread. :lol
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I love you Brent.
I'll sent my first song soon.
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I now have a Banned List.
BANNED
1. Asking questions about things that are clearly covered in the OP
:lol
To be fair, you did write a mini-dissertation back there.
Tim... i'll HBO for ya (Help a Brother Out). 11 Rounds. The first six, you get to drop your lowest three scores, so the real competition is only 7 rounds - as the top 5 after 10 rounds get to a final 11th "EP" round.
How'd I do?
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To be fair, you did write a mini-dissertation back there.
To be fair ........you can just skip down to the Rules section and read a few sentences ;) ;D
Just having some fun ;)
How'd I do?
Not great :lol
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RULES/TACTICS
1) Rounds: There will be 11 rounds ,divided into 5 prelims , 5 regular competition rounds and a Grand Final.
You get to leave behind your two lowest scores in the 5 prelims . The Top 5 after 10 rounds move onto the Grand Final round (rd 11) which is a 20 min EP.
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I have just added Devin Townsend/DTP to the "DTF Fave" bonus point list.
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I have just added Devin Townsend/DTP to the "DTF Fave" bonus point list.
I thought for sure that shoulda been there. I didn't figure he'd be in your wheelhouse.
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I now have a Banned List.
BANNED
1. Asking questions about things that are clearly covered in the OP
eg.
How many rounds is this?
2. Whining.
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This would be difficult if it was only 4 rounds!
Keep it to Chad's thread. :lol
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I can read. I know how many rounds there are. I was just saying that it's a lot of rounds.
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Man I wanna get started.
I'll send you a list in a bit. I got a few that may float your boat.
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Man I wanna get started.
I'll send you a list in a bit. I got a few that may float your boat.
Look forward to it. I'm just waiting for Shadow Ninja to finish his roulette before we really get started but people can submit Round 1 whenever they like.
I was just saying that it's a lot of rounds.
I have competed in roulettes with up to 10 rounds , so I go 11 just because. :lol
I very much doubt I will do this again so I'm gonna make the most of it ;)
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Relevant - https://youtu.be/uMSV4OteqBE?t=78
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Relevant - https://youtu.be/uMSV4OteqBE?t=78
Probably not surprising, but top 3 movie for me all time.
The scene in the limo where Nigel rolls up the window on the limo driver is pure gold.
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:tup
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I have received the following question via PM
does djenty stuff interest you very much?
I had zero appreciation of what djent even is until recently and I am still not sure I totally get the idea but let's take something like Shattered Skies. Hopefully I am on the right track with that. There were a couple of tracks on it that I really liked (probably the most melodic ones) but the rest I found a bit tiresome. My attitude is similar with most prog....(in this case) if it's just endless staccato guitar riffs and little in the way of melody then chances are I won't like it - combine the basics of the genre with some memorable melodies and song structure and chances are I might.
Not sure if that helps but my knowledge of the genre is limited.
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Alright! Sent!
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Thanks king - no big hurry for those that haven't sent at this point. I will let you know when there is a deadline (still waiting for Shadow Ninja to close off his final round)
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I've got the Ryche, Scorps concert tomorrow night then back to work with my boss there for half the week. Back into the fire.
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I'll submit mine tomorrow. I'm deciding between two or three right now. (I know what band I'm going to use; it's just a matter of what track...)
Most of my music I hear is on spotify so if I don't have the actual track (some I do), I know you said it was ok to use YouTube, right?
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I'll submit mine tomorrow. I'm deciding between two or three right now. (I know what band I'm going to use; it's just a matter of what track...)
Most of my music I hear is on spotify so if I don't have the actual track (some I do), I know you said it was ok to use YouTube, right?
music files I can manage into a playlist are first choice , but if that's not possible then Youtube is next best . If I really feel the need I can likely spend 99c myself and get the mp3 ;D
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This is like trying to do a roulette for myself :lol
Your op could have been written by me.
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This is like trying to do a roulette for myself :lol
Your op could have been written by me.
:tup You should walk it in then ;D
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Can I play for the first time ever?
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All the good work you put into your Mangini thread should get you some slack for being late ;D
Now that we have 12 , I will up the number through to the Grand Final to six.
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I'll submit mine tomorrow. I'm deciding between two or three right now. (I know what band I'm going to use; it's just a matter of what track...)
Most of my music I hear is on spotify so if I don't have the actual track (some I do), I know you said it was ok to use YouTube, right?
music files I can manage into a playlist are first choice , but if that's not possible then Youtube is next best . If I really feel the need I can likely spend 99c myself and get the mp3 ;D
I don't know how legit this site is, but I use this.
https://www.mp3va.com/
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Haha, and cheap as hell.
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This is like trying to do a roulette for myself :lol
Your op could have been written by me.
:tup You should walk it in then ;D
No, all the good stuff you already have and the stuff you don't have isn't worth having :lol
Spent ages last might trying to put a list together to run by you but nothing really screamed 'pick me!'
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SENT
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Sending you something in a non-English language would be tough, no? :P
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Sending you something in a non-English language would be tough, no? :P
I only speak 15 languages - which one are you thinking of sending ? ;D
In theory I don't see a huge problem - I tend to place a lot less importance on lyrics than most on DTF and , aside from all time faves that are ingrained into my brain , I tend to only remember lyrics if they are really good or plain horrid.
Having said that I only have a few non-English albums in my collection.
Beyond that I find it hard to guide you further. If I love it you may snag a half bonus point :)
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Thanks king - no big hurry for those that haven't sent at this point. I will let you know when there is a deadline (still waiting for Shadow Ninja to close off his final round)
I just realised that Shadow Ninja's final round has already been going for a week or so and he has said it could be another week. SLOWEST.................NINJA......................EVER :lol Unless Mr Bolsters has any objection I think we might just get under way.
Songs due in by around Wednesday morning my time (AUS) , which would be Tuesday night US time.
I have 5 songs so far.
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I'll send my list and my song tomorrow, I think.
Seeing how you don't mind the other languages, I may send some cheesy Russian power metal at one point. :lol
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I sent it to your email, let me know if you got it
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I sent it to your email, let me know if you got it
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Brent, serious question. Why did you want to run a roulette? You surely don't need to discover new music with the amount you have.
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Brent, serious question. Why did you want to run a roulette? You surely don't need to discover new music with the amount you have.
To torture us :biggrin:
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There are 4 bands in the history of rock music that he's never heard of. Good luck trying to figure them out
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Brent, serious question. Why did you want to run a roulette? You surely don't need to discover new music with the amount you have.
He saw how great TAC's was and thought to himself, "but I'm way cooler than that guy!" :lol
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Actually it was all part of a master plan that Chad developed to kick all your asses. I kept coming up with reasons not to run a roulette and he persisted nagging me and as soon as I said "alright then" (6 months ago) he started preparing and sussing out what bands to send ;D
I still discover new bands each week , but the strike rate ain't great...........in most cases I would do better to just listen to the classics but every now and then I stumble onto a ripper but the reward/hour spent ain't great. I respect all you guys and your knowledge big time , so I figure I have a much better chance here than in my normal internet travels...........and if the first round so far is anything to go by it's a good chance for you guys to stage an intervention on the DTF faves. It's a good chance for one last try at some of these bands with some guys who know my taste picking the tracks in a more informed way than my random sampling.
That and I wanted to taste the awesomeness of shellacking you all with some ratings :lol
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personally my roulette only has about 5% of the awesome that TAC's had, which is a bit disappointing, as I was shooting for 6%
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Actually it was all part of a master plan that Chad developed to kick all your asses.
Still not sure I've honed in on much that is going to 'wow' you.
Will type and send later tonight.
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I just realised that Shadow Ninja's final round has already been going for a week or so and he has said it could be another week. SLOWEST.................NINJA......................EVER :lol Unless Mr Bolsters has any objection I think we might just get under way.
Go for it.
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Well this is the best roulette I've ever participated in. :P
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Actually it was all part of a master plan that Chad developed to kick all your asses.
Still not sure I've honed in on much that is going to 'wow' you.
I don't feel so bad now if you've been planning for this for a little while.
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I am quite confident with my lineup of artists. (first-time-to-play high. wait for me to crash down to earth. LOL)
Since it's my first time to play, I would like to be clarified on some of the rules:
1. The rule about "Once an artist has been submitted it is banned for the rest of the roulette.", that applies only to the player who submitted, or to all the players?
2. With respect to #1, how about a "tribute" song to another artist. Would that count as a song of the artist being given tribute to?
3. For the prelim round, what if I get five high scores for all songs? ( I am so full of confidence. :lol ) Still, only three would count? If I get three high scores early, then it would be better to slack off and reserve the songs for the regular round?
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I am quite confident with my lineup of artists. (first-time-to-play high. wait for me to crash down to earth. LOL)
Since it's my first time to play, I would like to be clarified on some of the rules:
1. The rule about "Once an artist has been submitted it is banned for the rest of the roulette.", that applies only to the player who submitted, or to all the players?
Applies to everyone. So if TAC submits Blondie , then you guys are just going to have to deal with not being able to send Blondie for the rest of the roulette. I will add a list of submitted artists at the bottom of the OP for people to refer to . The only circumstance where I will accept more than one track is if two people submit the same artist in the same round. Believe it or not that has already happened.
2. With respect to #1, how about a "tribute" song to another artist. Would that count as a song of the artist being given tribute to?
I would need more info. If it is an original song written in tribute to another artist then no - that would not affect the artist who is being paid tribute. I am not interested in receiving cover versions in tribute though.
3. For the prelim round, what if I get five high scores for all songs? ( I am so full of confidence. :lol ) Still, only three would count? If I get three high scores early, then it would be better to slack off and reserve the songs for the regular round?
If you slam dunk the first three rounds then yes..........it might pay to hold back on what you see as your best material. You are going to lose two of your 10/10's anyway :lol
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I would send you cover versions in tribute then and I will break you for their awesomeness. :lol
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I actually quite enjoy plenty of tribute covers , so maybe send me some anyway (outside of the roulette) . But as far as roulettes go the general idea is original songs from official releases unless otherwise specified. Otherwise people could just send me Van Halen and Ozzy covers and game over :lol
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Actually it was all part of a master plan that Chad developed to kick all your asses.
Still not sure I've honed in on much that is going to 'wow' you.
I don't feel so bad now if you've been planning for this for a little while.
Haven't been planning for too long. I sen t my first 'test' of artists back in May, just to test the waters. I think I was about 50/50, and at that point I was digging fairly deep. Otherwise, it was a final couple of lists over the last 2 weeks as we got close to the start of this.
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(limit 2 bonus points per person during the roulette. And only one instrumental/ one DTF fave bonus point per person)
sorry if this was asked and answered, but can we send more than one DTF fave and just not be eligible for bonus points after the first one?
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(limit 2 bonus points per person during the roulette. And only one instrumental/ one DTF fave bonus point per person)
sorry if this was asked and answered, but can we send more than one DTF fave and just not be eligible for bonus points after the first one?
That's right - after you have claimed your bonus point/s you can continue to send as many instrumentals or DTF faves as you like as long as the artist in question hasn't already been submitted/banned. For this reason - those that have their heart set on a particular "DTF Fave" for their bonus point might want to get that done in the early rounds before someone else gets in there (bonus point or not)
I will put lines through the artists on the DTF faves lists as they are used up.
And as I have said before - the bonus points are optional and , in the case of "DTF Faves", carry some risk. No need to send anything you don't want to.
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Just got my banned list back from brent :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Don't think Ive got enough for 11 rounds. Or the prelim round :lol :lol :lol
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:lol
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Time for a new avatar?
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Just got my banned list back from brent :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Don't think Ive got enough for 11 rounds. Or the prelim round :lol :lol :lol
I know exactly how you feel mate. I've sent him two big lists and had the same reaction.
Time for a new avatar?
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There's nothing else to be said.
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I guess we should just be resigned to the fact that our A-list bands are pretty much gonna be off the shelf. So long as we're all in the same boat, then scores of 6 and 7 out of 10 should be looked upon with accomplishment. There might be the odd 8/9, which would be like winning a gold medal. A 10 would be like discovering plutonium... by accident.
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I guess we should just be resigned to the fact that our A-list bands are pretty much gonna be off the shelf. So long as we're all in the same boat, then scores of 6 and 7 out of 10 should be looked upon with accomplishment. There might be the odd 8/9, which would be like winning a gold medal. A 10 would be like discovering plutonium... by accident.
I think this is the thing, whatever we do have available, is the lower end stuff that really is not that quality that would be worth sprouting anyway.
And Chad, you're a fucking lightweight since I've started looking for Brent. Don't know what I was carrying on about with yours. :lol
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I guess we should just be resigned to the fact that our A-list bands are pretty much gonna be off the shelf. So long as we're all in the same boat, then scores of 6 and 7 out of 10 should be looked upon with accomplishment. There might be the odd 8/9, which would be like winning a gold medal. A 10 would be like discovering plutonium... by accident.
I think this is the thing, whatever we do have available, is the lower end stuff that really is not that quality that would be worth sprouting anyway.
And Chad, you're a fucking lightweight since I've started looking for Brent. Don't know what I was carrying on about with yours. :lol
I told you mine was just a warmup for his!
I've got a couple of gems that I think will float his boat, but after that... it's like trying to unhook a bra for the first time - I have no idea if I'm gonna be successful or not.
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It's gonna be very interesting indeed. I'm finding quite a few albums again that I had no idea that or had or who some of them are. Man I've purchased some average shit over the years.
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Chins up guys.............what happend to the confidence?
For as deep as your collection is, there are some gaping holes. We'll fill them up.
Plutonium gets found in gaping holes I believe :neverusethis:
And are you going to let The Intruder clean you all up that easily? :lol
For the prelim round, what if I get five high scores for all songs? ( I am so full of confidence. :lol ) Still, only three would count? If I get three high scores early, then it would be better to slack off and reserve the songs for the regular round?
Maybe Erwin will flick you all a few of his 9/10 rejects . ;D
Just Evermind and Lowdz to go now before the speakers start blaring.
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Oh I'm confident! Most of the bands that I sent have been allowed!! Maybe that's a good sign? I'm taking a slightly different approach then I think many of you are…
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Chins up guys.............what happend to the confidence?
I'm beginning to feel more and more confident with more and more whining/bitching/moaning by the other participants.
Hey everyone (and by everyone, I mean Kade and Paul)
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I'll send something in a few hours. Just got home from work.
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No stress - nobody is "late" .
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Sent one of DTF faves and I'm fully expecting to get 6/10 or less. Hey, it's the first round after all.
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I'm thinking 22/10.
I'm aiming really high.
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Not 21/12?
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I don't want to give the idea that someone stole Rush on me or something.
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Sent.
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I don't want to give the idea that someone stole Rush on me or something.
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:lol
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Chins up guys.............what happend to the confidence?
I'm beginning to feel more and more confident with more and more whining/bitching/moaning by the other participants.
Hey everyone (and by everyone, I mean Kade and Paul)
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Changed your tune prety quick bro. Looking forward to the submissions actually.
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I don't want to give the idea that someone stole Rush on me or something.
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:clap:
I lol'd. REAL hard.
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Chins up guys.............what happend to the confidence?
I'm beginning to feel more and more confident with more and more whining/bitching/moaning by the other participants.
Hey everyone (and by everyone, I mean Kade and Paul)
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Changed your tune prety quick bro. Looking forward to the submissions actually.
I got more tunes than you can shake a stick at. But apparently not my 2nd fave band any more thanks to cock-block TAC. What's next dude, Zeppelin?
If only I could submit Saxon or Alice Cooper...
I wouldn't because they suck. :lol
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That's not even right. And I did consider a Zeppelin song!
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If only I could submit Saxon or Alice Cooper...
I wouldn't because they suck. :lol
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Let the slinging begin.
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:metal
Bring it on!!!
Sucks my boss will be at work the next 2 days.
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I would also like to add that I did not simply cock block J Boy. I cock eclipsed him!
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I would also like to add that I did not simply cock block J Boy. I cock eclipsed him!
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I would also like to add that I did not simply cock block J Boy. I cock eclipsed him!
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
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Yes...............the boyz are back in top form :metal
And all you boyz have now sent your big noize - time to listen.
Early stats:
- 5 subs from the DTF faves list..........including 2 double ups with the artist
- <4 mins through to 10 mins +
I can't say that there are any bands I have never heard of , but plenty of material that I never would've got around to trying out , which really is the point of the exercise.
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Some Aussies out there might remember Big Kev :lol
I expect results up before the weekend .
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And some Americans sure as hell will not! :lol
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
We're like a gang. We're just going to roam different roulettes and bad ass them! :metal
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I've been told I have a bad ass but I think it's what's inside that's bad .
So Brent, you heard anything songs from the band I sent?!
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I have added Tool to the DTF Faves.
So Brent, you heard anything songs from the band I sent?!
Wuh? - now we're really back in top form :biggrin:
I was pretty sure I mentioned in an email I sent king that I do have a couple of their albums. Not a band I have listened to much and when I have the results have been a bit hit and miss. It'll depend very much on the individual song.
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Poor old Big Kev, he got too excited for his own good.
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Oops on both fronts. I haven't checked my emails. Just got back from vacation.
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
JJ, speaking of out of control roulettes, why isn't your name on the list??
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Results are out before the weekend? I thought it would be tonight. I already have a shitload of clunkers lined up.
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
JJ, speaking of out of control roulettes, why isn't your name on the list??
Maybe one day. But only 70s and 80s rock submissions will be allowed.
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
JJ, speaking of out of control roulettes, why isn't your name on the list??
Maybe one day. But only 70s and 80s rock submissions will be allowed.
No 90's classics? :lol
Seriously though I reckon that could rule out a lot of stuff you'd be interested in. There's quite a few obscure metal bands around at the moment that are very retro sounding - you would barely know that they're not from the 80's. I stumbled onto a really good one the other day that I have stored in the memory banks for a jj roulette , but under those rules it would not be allowed.
Anyway......The Nature Boy will set the rules and we will just do what we're told ;D
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This roulette is getting out of control too!!!
JJ, speaking of out of control roulettes, why isn't your name on the list??
Maybe one day. But only 70s and 80s rock submissions will be allowed.
Nothing wrong with a 70's & 80's only Roulette! Just ask Seneca.
BTW, I signed you up! :lol
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Nothing wrong with a 70's & 80's only Roulette!
It would be fun for sure and it would probably do some of us (me) some good to have the possible entries cut down. For me it would be an 80's roulette as I have very little from the 70's. Plenty of obscure 80's stuff to work with though.
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Poor old Big Kev, he got too excited for his own good.
That he did.
And I just realised that I made a DTF grammar error.
Let me fix that.
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I was just thinking tonight that Paul needs to do a second, and now that Brent, Tim and Kade have finally broken down and hosted (or at least signed up), Jay... you're the only straggler.
And what's with the 70s and 80s only shit? You follow lots of good 90s and 00s stuff - Silent Force, S-X, Primal Fear... this list goes on. We need to expose you to lots of awesomeness that you're missing out on.
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That's true, lots of newer bands that I like have the classic rock/metal sounds.
Growls will always get an immediate zero though
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jj, Bolsters is waiting for you to confirm in this thread.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=43449.105
Let's go Brother!!!
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For your roulette jj I am changing my avatar to David Lee Gorgoroth :metal
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All right dudes! I'm in!!
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Awesome jj.........I never thought I would see the day when there were so many current and upcoming roulettes to bad ass.
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And after one quick sampling of the goods I will say that I think it's a pretty strong round. Not an absolute barnstormer but strong and perhaps a higher average score than some are expecting.
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I would also like to add that I did not simply cock block J Boy. I cock eclipsed him!
Impossible... Eclipse is surely banned.
I would also like to add that I did not simply cock block J Boy. I cock eclipsed him!
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I can always count on King to have my back!
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Yay I'm not last anymore!!
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Actually for my roulette I was thinking about themed rounds and was thinking about doing something like a different decade per round or something. I am still thinking about it (and have time obviously) but yeah. I don't know if I would go so far to do it for my entire roulette though.
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I'd recommend you to check some past roulettes and see if some of the themes you have in mind have worked or not ;)
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I was just thinking tonight that Paul needs to do a second, and now that Brent, Tim and Kade have finally broken down and hosted (or at least signed up), Jay... you're the only straggler.
And what's with the 70s and 80s only shit? You follow lots of good 90s and 00s stuff - Silent Force, S-X, Primal Fear... this list goes on. We need to expose you to lots of awesomeness that you're missing out on.
If that was aimed at me I haven't done a version 1. Only participated in 2 prior to this and brents.
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If that was aimed at me I haven't done a version 1. Only participated in 2 prior to this and brents.
It was. I was trying to remember if you'd done one, and thought that you were a wise enough person to have done one. :biggrin: Guess I'm mis-remembering. Well, with Kade and jj now on the list around the same time, maybe you should wait for a few people in between so we can spread out the awesomeness!
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Also, I have to hold off for 6 months so, if anyone wants to jump in front after XMas time, I don't mind, we'll play it by ear.
My third list of bands I sent to Brent has slighty more success. Don't how many are actually up his alley though. :lol
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I WILL JUMP AHEAD
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I WILL JUMP AHEAD
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If that was aimed at me I haven't done a version 1. Only participated in 2 prior to this and brents.
It was. I was trying to remember if you'd done one, and thought that you were a wise enough person to have done one. :biggrin: Guess I'm mis-remembering. Well, with Kade and jj now on the list around the same time, maybe you should wait for a few people in between so we can spread out the awesomeness!
Will probably sign up at some point.
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I WILL JUMP AHEAD
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I have completed 2 listens to everything...............2 more to go ,so based on that I expect to bring forward results to Thursday night at the latest.
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Thursday night our time right Brent? ;D
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:rollin
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These roulettes are just trying to outdo one another now. :lol
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These roulette just trying to outdo one another now. :lol
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Just noticed my horrible grammar there.
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Just noticed my horrible grammar there.
That's my territory bub.
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Just noticed my horrible grammar there.
That's my territory bub.
Won't happen again my good sir.
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Tim's delivering some godly meme's here. I lost my shit over the birthday candles.
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Brent,
In the 20-minute EP in the Grand Finals, the previously-referred artists are still banned?
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Brent,
In the 20-minute EP in the Grand Finals, the previously-referred artists are still banned?
Correct. So save a couple of your 10/10 artists for the final ;D
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Ok. For the 20-minute EP, assuming I get in, I can give 4 songs from the same artist?
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Ok. For the 20-minute EP, assuming I get in, I can give 4 songs from the same artist?
No mate - you can fill up the time with one epic if you like but if there's more than one song they need to be from different artists.
It's the done thing in roulettes to ban artists as they are submitted ( or get a certain score). Otherwise it could get silly with loads from the same artist , which sort of defeats the purpose of the roulette.
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I'll be shooting blanks well before the final comes around.
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I'll be shooting blanks well before the final comes around.
Sucks getting old. :lol
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I'll be shooting blanks well before the final comes around.
Sucks getting old. :lol
I'm only 31 but starting the downhill slide already. :lol
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I'll be shooting blanks well before the final comes around.
Sucks getting old. :lol
I'm only 31 but starting the downhill slide already. :lol
You're younger than me? I'm 32! I feel like I'm at least 10 years older than I am. Granted, I also have a preschooler, and that automatically makes you feel older than you are
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I'll be shooting blanks well before the final comes around.
Sucks getting old. :lol
I'm only 31 but starting the downhill slide already. :lol
You're younger than me? I'm 32! I feel like I'm at least 10 years older than I am. Granted, I also have a preschooler, and that automatically makes you feel older than you are
That said, how you feel is still younger than I am. Though there are times I don't feel 43, then there are times my body reminds me of that very fact. Mentally, I sure don't feel like I'm 43.
Hey, is it Thursday over there yet?
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I'm a teen in my head still and my body reminds me that I'm not. :lol
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I'm a teen in my head still and my body reminds me that I'm not. :lol
Yeah like many of you guys here I have the mind of a 12-year-old
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Hey, is it Thursday over there yet?
Yep, 8am! ;D
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Hey, is it Thursday over there yet?
Yep, 8am! ;D
It's almost Thursday over here!
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I didn't say which Thursday ;D
I'll squeeze in another couple of listens today (that'll make 6 , as there's some pretty heavy listening in among this lot and I want to fine tune rankings a touch) and all will be on time for late Thursday night Aussie time......Thursday morning US time .
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giggity. Gives me time to finish my first listen of my tunes.
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I am so excited that my email for the next two rounds are already drafted. LOL
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I am so excited that my email for the next two rounds are already drafted. LOL
Bloody hell.
Hope for your sake no one has submitted one of those two bands this round.
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Well this was a good round guys and I am already really enjoying the experience of listening to your selections.............I’m a lot more used to being the pimp-er rather than the pimpee. :) I spent a lot more time listening than I originally intended (6-8 listens each) in an effort to get the ratings consistent across some quite varied music. The good news is that nobody did worse than 8 after bonus points , so maybe I'm going soft with these ratings in my old age. We'll do something about that in Rd 2 perhaps now that I have settled in :hat
Your bravery and loyalty to the DTF Faves was more successful in some cases than others ,as you’ll see below. And presumably there must be some sort of Hall of Fame spot now for TAC and Big Hath as likely the first and only people in DTF history to have the honour of submitting Rush in a DTF roulette.
For those of you who did well here it’s a great start ,but for those who lagged a bit there’s no need to even worry about this score if you can ace 3 of the next 4 rounds. Hopefully the write ups in these prelims give some worthwhile guidance as to my taste for when things get more serious. Round 2 submissions are open and I am hoping to start listening as early in the new week as I can.
Without further ado.......and in no particular order..
1) Rush : La Villa Strangiato - TAC Rating: 8 + 1 bonus point = 9
The first of 5 DTF Fave interventions and the first of two Rush submissions. Tim was obviously paying attention when I posted this a while back:
My favourite track on Moving Pictures was YYZ 'cos Geddy kept quiet ;D Some very cool bass playing in there.
So a risk was taken with Rush but an educated risk given it’s an instrumental. But then I am also known to be a bit hard to please when it comes to 70’s rock and also very picky when it comes to epic length tracks and at 9:39 this song really need to produce the goods throughout to hold my attention. In the end I wasn’t hitting Skip but I also wasn’t Rush-ing to replay it. It certainly has its strong points – aside from Van Halen’s debut it sounds about as good as just about anything from around that time. The rhythm section is great , with the drumming being a stand out. The main guitar riff is fine and I totally appreciate the writing involved but the melody to prog ratio is a little bit low for my liking. The lead guitar work is nice enough but for my taste he doesn't inject enough memorable melodies to carry a track almost 10 mins. Funnily enough my favourite part could well be the atmospheric bit around 5.15. with the slow arpeggios and keyboard background.
So........solid track but not enough to convert me to the Rush fan club just yet.
Having said that it was a bit of a grower and got bumped up a point on my final listen.
2) Karnya: Silver - Bolsters Rating: 9
Well there’s no shortage of stuff going on in this song.....the first minute or so was just okay but from there it’s quite an interesting song. I mentioned in my OP how I can struggle with proggy music that meanders around and whenever this song threatened to go that way a change in pace occurred that relieved any chance of boredom. Another good thing with this song is that when it wasn’t particularly melodic , it compensated for it with some really catchy , often funky rhythms. Nice work Bolsters – a pick that does a good job of proving that I am not averse to a progressive recipe when the flavours (melody/progginess) are balanced right.
3) A.C.T. – A Truly Gifted Man – kingshmegland Rating 8
I found this a hard one to mark. In the past I have found that the songs I have sampled from A.C.T have been half killer/half filler.........and that’s within the one song and this is similar. I find it hard to rate a song really highly when I’m iffy about the vocalist and I did struggle a little with this. The vocals over the main (almost calypso) rhythm are just a bit too wimpy for me and that covers much of the first half of the song – it’s like like Joseph Williams took singing lessons from Michael Jackson at his most feminine :lol There’s a definite Toto flavour in there though with the rhythm stuff that I find quite appealing. At 3.30 the music gets a lot more lush and the vocals take a break for a minute and this is my favourite part of the song.....great stuff.......same at around 5.20.
Nothing wrong with the music king – some of it I really love - but all of my favourite vocalists in this style (say Williams, Kimball, Cetera, Champlin) all have that bit of extra power/gravitas that is missing here.
Like a few other songs I gave this ranking a boost very late in the piece - in this case because of my appreciation for the instrumental sections which are really nice.
4) Steely Dan – Rikki Don’t Lose That Number –splent Rating = 9
As soon as I heard this begin I was taken back – so it’s a song I know from my childhood via the radio and the band are one of those I have been meaning to check out more for some time. I think they are one of those bands where there may be another couple of songs I know without even knowing it’s Steely Dan. There’s also the Doobie Bros connection with Michael McDonald that most likely was my initial heads up in terms of the band name.
Good classic rock and harmonies that aren’t too dissimilar to Aussies The Little River Band , who I have always liked , or even Player. Not a style I listen to much these days but good stuff and an example of some relaxing classic rock that I would certainly enjoy from time to time.
5) Primal Fear – Iron Fist In Velvet Glove - jjrock88 Rating = 10
Imagine my utter shock when I received a Primal Fear submission from jj.......floored me it did ,God's honest troof. :angel: Primal Fear and other bands featuring Scheepers on vocals have tended to produce albums where I love one or two killer tracks and am not fussed at all about the rest. So I was a little nervous here , but I needn’t have been as it’s heavy, melodic with great guitar work and one of Ralfy’s better vocal performaces. Hopefully the album in question isn’t another one hit wonder but this track is a ripper. Simple but very effective ......sometimes the K.I.S.S. principle works. It took me back to the days before I knew what prog metal was. I’m still not 100% sure if I like the wailing underneath the gang vocals in the chorus or not ,but aside from that very minor doubt this is a perfect example of melodic metal and could well be a long term favourite. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and bestow my first 10/10.
6) Rush – Half The World – Big Hath Rating 8 + 1 bonus =9
This is a pleasant song and it’s nice to be able to hear some bass in a song like this and feel it adds plenty. It’s probably one of the the least annoying Rush songs I have heard in terms of Geddy’s vocals and so that’s a plus too. I still can’t say I am a convert but it’s a solid , commercial Rush song.
7) Throne of Chaos (TOC): The Window – Sacul Rating= 9
This is probably the surprise of the round – on initial review I was under the impression that I had never heard of them but then I found one of their older albums on my hard drive. It’s apparently melodeath so I have no idea what’s up with that. Anyway ,for this album they’ve mellowed a bit and it’s some nice melodic metal with some proggy touches. The main lick that drives the song is simple but a bit of an earworm and does a good job of distracting me from the more dirty “modernish” rhythm sound which would normally be a turn off ,all things being equal. The mellow 70’s style/psychedelic midsection followed by a more aggressive rhythm that kicks in under the solo is a highlight too. Good stuff Sacul.
8) Mystery : Travel To The Night – Lowdz Rating=8.5
The initial groove here sounds to me like a Rush/Toto mix that I quite like – the vocals aren’t unlike Geddy either but have that extra bit of low end that makes them more appealing to my ears. In the end I liked the song well enough but the main riff/idea is repeated a bit too much over the course of 8 mins+ for my liking. Still – I enjoyed the listen and it’s certainly enough to convince me that I was right to have them down as a band I need to spend more time on. I already have one of their albums but never got around to listening properly.
9) Pain of Salvation : Iter Impius – Evermind Rating = 9.5 +1 bonus =10.5
There are parallels for me with Pain of Salvation and Rush – I own one album (Remedy Lane/Moving Pictures) and my favourite track on each by far is the instrumental :lol. Thankfully this PoS track isn’t a PoS at all. :neverusethis: It’s quite a well structured effort with plenty going for it – a nice mellow beginning that builds and builds with an unexpectedly nice solo (not a band I have associated with great guitar work) and plenty of emotion in the vocal....He’s not the most naturally gifted vocalist I have heard but he extracts the maximum from himself here. I have no idea about the concept – which is obviously there – but this song stands alone quite nicely and this is what I hope for from a great concept album. So R........it appears I do appreciate “the truth” and you have given me a reason to persist a bit more with the band in general.
10) Steve Vai : Whispering A Prayer - erwinrafael Rating = 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5
So I was a huge Vai fan back in the day and THE two classic guitar albums around the time I was really getting into my own guitar playing were Surfing With The Alien and Passion and Warfare. I started to drift off a bit after Fire Garden ...........Alien Love Secrets was a bit more straight forward and up my alley but it got to the point where his weirdness was dominating just a bit too much for my taste. I was also all over his stuff with DLR and Whitesnake.
I suppose that’s a good thing and a bad thing for someone who submits Vai – you already know I appreciate his playing but I am also aware of his very best work which sets a very high bar. This track is nice and melodic but not quite up there in the stratosphere of his best work IMHO. Having said that it's a really nice piece and got a much higher rating after 5 or 6 listens than it had initially. I don’t know if you know Joe Satriani’s The Extremist erwin but it almost sounds like some of the softer material on that – similar vibe.
11) Ayreon: Day 10 (Memories)/Day 11(Love) – jingle.boy Rating= 7.5+ 1 bonus = 8.5
This was another brave submission after the warnings about my frequent lack of appreciation for concept albums and needing concept album songs to stand very much on their own two feet. You put a lot of effort into explaining the context of the songs and for that I'm grateful. I really tried hard with this but in the end the songs aren't begging to be replayed.
I can totally see the talent in terms of Arjen’s concepts and lyrics but I am yet to hear a song from him that fully connects with me and seriously impresses from start to finish in terms of memorable melody or musicianship . These songs at times (mostly Day 11) have a folky sort of vibe which isn't something I generally like - the harmonies make pleasant listening but the overall songs aren't really wowing me. I can see a lot of parallels here between this and SFAM - I never connected to that the way most DT fans did and it's this serious lack of appreciation I have for concepts where I don't love the songs on their own individual merit. It seems to me that the real strengths of Arjen are in areas (concept/lyrics) that I don't place as much weight on as everyone else.
Even if I had wanted to I can't rate these songs "within concept" as I am not listening to the lot. So I have to rate the songs as just that.........individual songs and how much I want to listen to the music.
I have really tried to like Ayreon but I still can't say I am there yet.
My initial rating was quite a bit lower and I struggled to settle on a score but we finished at the highest I got . It took 5 or 6 listens though and I normally wouldn't have persisted that long :) My least favourite parts are actually JLB's folky verses in Day Eleven........ "Friday night , I had a few" - sounds like he just came out of the Blue Oyster Bar ;D - but the harmonies in the rest of the song do lift it to a higher level.
12) Ayreon: Into The Black Hole – wolfking Rating = 7 +1 = 8
Another Arjen intervention and Kade has perhaps been even more brave with a 10min+ entry. To me this is a solid song at times but a bit of a plodder at others - there’s just not enough going on musically to fill up 10 mins+ for me,despite a very strong vocal from Brucey.
So it’s 1 for 3 from the DTF faves. Pain of Salvation got high marks (although how representative that is of how I will view their other material I am doubtful) , Rush got respect but not much more and Ayreon .......well I haven’t changed my mind.
Standings: number of *= number of bonus points used (those who have not used bonus pts are ranked higher where score is tied)
Evermind 10.5*
jjrock 10
erwinrafael 9.5*
Sacul 9
Bolsters 9
splent 9
TAC 9*
Big Hath 9*
Lowdz 8.5
jingle.boy 8.5*
kingshmegland 8
wolfking 8*
Banned:
Ayreon
A.C.T
Karnya
Mystery
Pain of Salvation
Primal Fear
Rush
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
Track of the round for pure headbanging enjoyment goes to jj.
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Back to jingly listening for a day or two.
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Fuck.
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Interesting writueps. How La Villa Strangiato and Half The World are on equal footing is beyond me. ;D
Deciding to take a chance or not in the next round. Shit if Steely Dan gets submitted for this roulette, I might have a surprise for Brent! :lol
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I just wouldn't send stuff like Primal Fear and Steve Vai since they are bands you would know and are not new and you have the ability to check the rest of their stuff at anytime but whatever. Just doesn't seem like the point of roulettes. I guess I'm looking too hard into this roulette and just being a bad loser. Might throw this and start sending stuff that Brent hasn't even heard of to try and impress.
Me and Chad are off to have a drink.
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Interesting writueps. How La Villa Strangiato and Half The World are on equal footing is beyond me. ;D
Deciding to take a chance or not in the next round. Shit if Steely Dan gets submitted for this roulette, I might have a surprise for Brent! :lol
I think Half the World is shit myself.
BTW, that Primal Fear is such an amazing track and a bonus track to boot.
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Primal Fear wasn't banned? How the fuck did I miss that? :facepalm:
Bold choice with Half The World...I was thinking of sending either La Villa or Driven myself, I should have done it right away though.
I'll send something soon, guess I'd better try for a bonus point before all those bands are banned. :lol
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Primal Fear wasn't banned? How the fuck did I miss that? :facepalm:
They weren't banned but when Brent did a random summary of your basic power metal bands he stated he had two PF albums. I stayed away simply because of that aspect.
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I just wouldn't send stuff like Primal Fear and Steve Vai since they are bands you would know and are not new and you have the ability to check the rest of their stuff at anytime but whatever. Just doesn't seem like the point of roulettes. I guess I'm looking too hard into this roulette and just being a bad loser. Might throw this and start sending stuff that Brent hasn't even heard of to try and impress.
Me and Chad are off to have a drink.
Interesting writueps. How La Villa Strangiato and Half The World are on equal footing is beyond me. ;D
Deciding to take a chance or not in the next round. Shit if Steely Dan gets submitted for this roulette, I might have a surprise for Brent! :lol
I think Half the World is shit myself.
As far as Half The World goes it's certainly no killer song but if you look back at the OP at what I'm thinking when I rate something around that 7.5-8 area it's that I'm happy to hear the song from time to time and enjoy it and that's about where it sits. I'm also trying to send a bit of a message with some of these early ratings . I don't know how many times I said the word "melody" but the fact that I have rated a simple commercial Rush song at a similar level to a lengthy prog instrumental classic (with limited memorable melodies to my ears) should say something. Songs that are proggy but also more melodic attracted higher scores. I do totally understand Tim's dismay at both songs getting an 8 , but I rate things on how often I think I am going to want to listen to them ,not on depth of musical talent alone. If a song ticks all the boxes AND displays amazing musicianship then awesome.
As far as my accepting submissions for Primal Fear and Steve Vai...........I can see your point too Kade. If in doubt I will likely add half a point rather than subtract it for an artist I don't know. You guys were so worried about not having anything to submit that I thought that I had better accept any albums I don't have in addition to brand new artists. I sorta felt I couldn't win either way on that one. :-\
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I had an inkling when I read your past dealings with A.C.T. Well, time to man up and get a killer tune for the next round.
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I don't mean to sound like a dick Brent, it's your roulette and you run it any way you want, I respect that 100%. It's my issue and I think I'm pissed at myself as it just feels like a wasted opportunity when I see favs like Primal Fear, Steve Vai and POS getting in there with the high scores. And of course they should get high scores, they are amazing.
I think I'm frustrated at myself not reading between the lines and thinking I should be sending stuff you've never heard before. My issue my good friend, I'm sorry if I've put a damper on it, never meant that. Looking forward to getting back on the horse in round 2. Ayreon is an acquired taste and I can fully understand them not clicking with you.
Saying that only one round in and I'm now a bit torn on how I tackle this. I love a good challenge though.
Damn you for making me take this too seriously. :rollin
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I had an inkling when I read your past dealings with A.C.T. Well, time to man up and get a killer tune for the next round.
That was the risk we took with taking bands from the DTF fav list. I just picked the wrong band, that's what's cut me.
It's like when you have a gut feeling on a football game, but change your mind at the last minute and then go with the crowd and your gut was in fact right. Such an awful feeling in the stomach.
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Don't forget you get to drop 2 rounds after Rd 5 - some of you took risks that didn't quite come off but that's why I made the rules the way I did......so you could stuff up a couple of times with no real penalty.
Shit....... even I wasn't expecting the lowest score to be a 7 - maybe I'm being too nice ;D
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Primal Fear wasn't banned? How the fuck did I miss that? :facepalm:
They weren't banned but when Brent did a random summary of your basic power metal bands he stated he had two PF albums. I stayed away simply because of that aspect.
I guess I just thought that they would be so far up his alley, that he would be a fan and they would be banned outright. Didn't even put them in my list that I sent. Oh well, you know what they say about assuming. :biggrin:
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Brent, I will send you a Rush song that you will enjoy that has vocals. It's not an entry for the round, it's in the interest of making you enjoy a song of theirs. Hahaha
Steve Vai is a calculated move to put myself in a good position. :) Yes, it sounds a bit like the Extremist stuff. Most of his stuff is in the "weird" category nowadays that harks to his Zappa roots, so it isnhard to come up with something harking to his old stuff.
Now it's time to hit that 10. :rollin
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Half the World is shit... for us Rush fans that know the catalog, and are "Rush" fans. I can totally see why it appeals to Brent though. BTW, my Rush short list was La Villa, Dreamline, and Headlong Flight.
@ Kade...
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@ Brent... totally fair writeup on those Ayreon tracks.
Nice mix of tunes we all submitted. @ Paul... FUCK! There goes Mystery from my short list. :newman: I figured the same as Bolsters vis-a-vis Primal Fear.
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Don't forget you get to drop 2 rounds after Rd 5 - some of you took risks that didn't quite come off but that's why I made the rules the way I did......so you could stuff up a couple of times with no real penalty.
Taking full advantage of this in Round two!
Sent something that I was saving for jj's roulette! :lol
I dare Brent to not tap his foot.
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I like Half The World, and Test For Echo in general rates pretty highly with me. But I am fully aware of the fact I'm an oddball Rush fan for saying that. :lol
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Half the World is shit... for us Rush fans that know the catalog, and are "Rush" fans. I can totally see why it appeals to Brent though. BTW, my Rush short list was La Villa, Dreamline, and Headlong Flight.
@ Kade...
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@ Brent... totally fair writeup on those Ayreon tracks.
Nice mix of tunes we all submitted. @ Paul... FUCK! There goes Mystery from my short list. :newman: I figured the same as Bolsters vis-a-vis Primal Fear.
I guess I can see how that Rush song would appeal too, but definitely one of their worst tracks. I didn't even consider Rush from that list for some reason, went straight to Ayreon. Was listening to the Human Equation again yesterday Chad and forgot how damn good it is.
Looks like we both were thinking the same way from our dismissal of Primal Fear. Maybe time to chagne tactics. No idea what the hell to do know haha.
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I didn't consider Ayreon because I didn't think I'd be able to pick a song Brent would like much. Maybe Amazing Flight?
Anyway, I just read the rules and realised I only get one bonus point for an instrumental or DTF fave (I was thinking we could get one for each) so I don't think I will bother sending a DTF fave as I've got a killer instrumental lined up for later.
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Fuck.
That's exactly my initial response to Tim's Rd 2 submission :rollin How the fuck am I going to rate this? ;D
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For you guys thinking, I posted this in the TAC Roulette.
It should be one of the Roulette Commandments!
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And to show that I walk the walk, my Round 2 submission is devoid of any thought whatsoever! :lol
Fuck.
That's exactly my initial response to Tim's Rd 2 submission :rollin How the fuck am I going to rate this? ;D
You're going to rate it with your heart. Your true heart. Your inner being will be exposed! But you're among friends. Surely we won't judge you.
But we WILL judge whoever finishes behind me in this round!! :lol
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You didn't send Animotion, did you?
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You didn't send Animotion, did you?
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I didn't consider Ayreon because I didn't think I'd be able to pick a song Brent would like much. Maybe Amazing Flight?
Anyway, I just read the rules and realised I only get one bonus point for an instrumental or DTF fave (I was thinking we could get one for each) so I don't think I will bother sending a DTF fave as I've got a killer instrumental lined up for later.
Wait... I missed that too. I just thought if (like Tim) only one point was available if one song was BOTH a DTF Fave and instrumental. But, only one bonus point available per player? Brent... confirm please? Not sure I'll take a chance on an instrumental if there's no bonus available.
Roulette submissions are a tricky heart/mind decision. I went with my heart in Round 1, when my mind told me I should probably submit something else (Chaos perhaps, or Dawn of A Million Souls).
You didn't send Animotion, did you?
It's his obsession now.
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Thanks to Chad, Animotion's sales have increased by 5 this week.
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My understanding is that you could get a bonus point for an instrumental. And a separate bonus point for a DTF fave. You just can not get both for the same song.
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My understanding is that you could get a bonus point for an instrumental. And a separate bonus point for a DTF fave. You just can not get both for the same song.
Nope. I tried!!
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From the OP
(limit 2 bonus points per person during the roulette. And only one instrumental/ one DTF fave bonus point per person)
So yes - you get one bonus point (if you like) from each pool - DTF Faves and instrumentals.
Tim submitted a song that met both criteria so he can choose where his other bonus point comes from. I only smacked you down in that PM Tim because you wanted 2 bonus points for the one song in Round One when I had already said you couldn't.... :P
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Yes. Glad I submitted something different. I have a few ideas for next round.
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I'm quite pleased with 8.5 for Mystery as I wasn't that impressed with them myself :lol
Tried them early in case anyone else tried. Sampled loads of tracks and liked a few. I liked that riff and it was the reason I went for this track as their others seemed to meander a bit.
And I agree with Kade, some pretty obvious submissions there which I wouldn't have thought to try because they were obvious. Ah well, the game is afoot. I also agree with Kade that Half The World is shit. The whole album is shit in my opininon - the worst pre-hiatus Rush album including the debut.
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So yes - you get one bonus point (if you like) from each pool - DTF Faves and instrumentals.
Fuck, I actually thought it was that way. But when you started marking off people who received bonuses, it made me think we might only be getting one, so re-read it and screwed myself up. :\
If you'll allow me Brent, I might change my Round 2 submission and send a fave before someone else claims it.
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So yes - you get one bonus point (if you like) from each pool - DTF Faves and instrumentals.
Fuck, I actually thought it was that way. But when you started marking off people who received bonuses, it made me think we might only be getting one, so re-read it and screwed myself up. :\
If you'll allow me Brent, I might change my Round 2 submission and send a fave before someone else claims it.
Touch move! :p
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So yes - you get one bonus point (if you like) from each pool - DTF Faves and instrumentals.
Fuck, I actually thought it was that way. But when you started marking off people who received bonuses, it made me think we might only be getting one, so re-read it and screwed myself up. :\
If you'll allow me Brent, I might change my Round 2 submission and send a fave before someone else claims it.
Sorry if I confused things with those markers- my intent was to use a 2nd one for the second bonus point too so people could keep track.
Re-send if you like.
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Last time a guy tried to use Bonus Points..er Secret Points, the roulette asploded!
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Last time a guy tried to use Bonus Points..er Secret Points, the roulette asploded!
:rollin :rollin
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Half the World is a pretty good Rush tune, but would rank on the lower tier for me from the band
Glad you liked the PF song. That song is an absolute smoke show
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10,5 for one round? Oh hell yeah.
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At least you got more than 3 points for that song this time. (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/Roulette/tardstar-emot.png~original)
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10,5 for one round? Oh hell yeah.
Way to blow your wad right out of the gate!
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It goes to 11.
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It goes to 11.
Apparently 12 now.
Sent... for the second time.
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i can't believe nobody has sent rush in my roulette yet
and yay for Iter Impius, definitely one of my favorite PoS songs.
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Sent.
Let me know if you got it.
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Sent.
Let me know if you got it.
:tup
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Hell yes. Gonna send a DTF fav soon ;D
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Hell yes. Gonna send a DTF fav soon ;D
The song you sent was pretty good Lucas. I dug it.
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I'll send something tonight.
I think no more DTF favs for me. I might look into an instrumental though.
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GOing with a band I actually like this round :biggrin:
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song sent
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I normally send to play the game (aka:: bonus points) but I often want to send bands some have never heard of or never ventured to try. Mnn. Playing songs right now to make up my mind.
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10,5 for one round? Oh hell yeah.
Way to blow your wad right out of the gate!
Yeah, right. :lol
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Sent!
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Does Brent like cheese in his songs?
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Does Brent like cheese in his songs?
I wouldn't say I go searching for cheese in my music like I do in my diet , but if the music is amazing then a decent helping of cheese isn't enough to put me off. I'm sure there's a point at which I'll say it's ridiculous (where the cheese rather than the music becomes the main focus) .
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Awwww. I thought you like cheese because you like the 80s. :P I have something with extra cheese lined up.
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The song you sent was pretty good Lucas. I dug it.
Can you do me a favour and not listen to any of the songs I send? You're probably going to receive some of them in your own roulette. :mehlin
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Sent!
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Sent.
Same goes for me Chad. You can listen all you like after your roulette!
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I have 9 of 12 for Round 2 .......if we could get the rest over the weekend that'd be :tup
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Regarding Pain of S:
It’s quite a well structured effort with plenty going for it – a nice mellow beginning that builds and builds with an unexpectedly nice solo (not a band I have associated with great guitar work)
Daniel Gildenlöw and Johan Hallgren (haven't heard the new guy yet) are extremely talented guitar players with good taste in their playing. And they can shred your ears off if they want to too :biggrin: Most of it is probably too proggy for your liking but listen to the solos in Used or Song For The Innocent for instance to get a taste.
He’s not the most naturally gifted vocalist I have heard but he extracts the maximum from himself here.
Does not compute. I can see why some might not like his vocals but Daniel Gildenlöw is one of the best and one of the most versatile vocalists out there.
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
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I'm trying to avoid using the same songs where I am reusing an artist, but I've got at least two identical songs lined up for your roulettes so far. :-\
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Hopefully for Chad's sake it's not Rd 2 ;D
He’s not the most naturally gifted vocalist I have heard but he extracts the maximum from himself here.
Does not compute. I can see why some might not like his vocals but Daniel Gildenlöw is one of the best and one of the most versatile vocalists out there.
Someone who doesn't like him is hardly going to say he is one of the best , but that wasn't the case with me anyway. I actually do like his voice but to me there wasn't much to make him stand above other good singers (very unique tone, effortless power) other than the great emotion and effort in the performance.
Vocals are pretty key for me and nothing would get 9.5 from me if I didn't rate the vocalist. I was more just trying to emphasise that , to me at least , he sounded like he was squeezing every last bit of emotion/power out of his voice , rather than being someone with power/talent to burn just cruising along. That effort actually added to my enjoyment of the song.
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I just wanted to comment on the "not the most naturally gifted" because I think he's one of the most talented (and therefore naturally gifted) singers in rock/prog/metal.
But anyway, my real motivation was to just enter this thread so I get noticed when new posts arrive. Like in Chad's roulette I hope that most of the songs submitted are up my alley and I will find many new bands/songs to add to my "to-listen-to-somewhere-in-the-future"-list. ;D
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Fair enough H - when's your roulette? ;D
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Hopefully for Chad's sake it's not Rd 2 ;D
He’s not the most naturally gifted vocalist I have heard but he extracts the maximum from himself here.
Does not compute. I can see why some might not like his vocals but Daniel Gildenlöw is one of the best and one of the most versatile vocalists out there.
Someone who doesn't like him is hardly going to say he is one of the best , but that wasn't the case with me anyway. I actually do like his voice but to me there wasn't much to make him stand above other good singers (very unique tone, effortless power) other than the great emotion and effort in the performance.
Vocals are pretty key for me and nothing would get 9.5 from me if I didn't rate the vocalist. I was more just trying to emphasise that , to me at least , he sounded like he was squeezing every last bit of emotion/power out of his voice , rather than being someone with power/talent to burn just cruising along. That effort actually added to my enjoyment of the song.
I do prefer a vocalist who's pushing it a bit, a bit of grit in the voice rather than a purer vocal - that's what puts me off alot of AOR stuff I should in theory like. PoS however have just never done anything for me. I have Remedy Lane but don't remember a thing about it. I bought that after seeing them support DT and enjoying their set. I'll have to give them another go.
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Fair enough H - when's your roulette? ;D
When I find the time, so :soon: ;D
Probably should first participate in some to get a feel for it.
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PoS however have just never done anything for me. I have Remedy Lane but don't remember a thing about it. I bought that after seeing them support DT and enjoying their set. I'll have to give them another go.
Remedy Lane is the only album I have and , like I said in my write up , the only song I rated top marks was the instrumental. Hence the slot in my DTF faves. The song submitted in Rd 1 here obviously impressed me a lot more than anything on that album ,so there is hope for me and PoS. I do wonder though what the strike rate is going to be across the whole catalogue .
Fair enough H - when's your roulette? ;D
When I find the time, so :soon: ;D
Probably should first participate in some to get a feel for it.
Good idea. I'll look forward to yours - plenty of common ground methinks.
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If you can't get into Remedy Lane then probably PoS is not the band for you, apart from the occasional song.
Good idea. I'll look forward to yours - plenty of common ground methinks.
For sure, but beware, I also like them growlies :metal
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For sure, but beware, I also like them growlies :metal
That would worry me if you were in my roulette ,not the other way around - unless you have a growlie round and then I will be clueless :lol
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Growly round? Now don't get me funny ideas :biggrin:
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Alright, alright...
Dave... I already know Karnya.
Paul... ditto for Mystery.
Otherwise, I'll avoid your tracks. It puts me at a disadvantage though... not having the ability to assess Brent's opinions of the songs by SEVEN of you! Guess the same warning (and handicap) goes for you Brent if they use those songs in my roulette first.
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Alright, alright..
Otherwise, I'll avoid your tracks. It puts me at a disadvantage though... not having the ability to assess Brent's opinions of the songs by SEVEN of you! Guess the same warning (and handicap) goes for you Brent if they use those songs in my roulette first.
Would you please stop? Boo fucking hoo! ;D
You can listen. Geez! :lol
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Fair enough H - when's your roulette? ;D
When I find the time, so :soon: ;D
Probably should first participate in some to get a feel for it.
Better sign up now.
Would you please stop? Boo fucking hoo! ;D
You (and Dave and Paul) were the ones who whined first!!! "Please don't listen to my music because my library is so limited I only have 15 songs that might appeal to both you and Brent that you don't already know"
Boo fucking hoo!
:rollin :rollin
I'll be kind and avoid any new songs from you pussies. It just means you should just feel an even greater amount of shame when I kick your asses here though.
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Dave... I already know Karnya.
No shit, why do you think I sent them in the first round? :rollin
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Alright, alright...
Dave... I already know Karnya.
Paul... ditto for Mystery.
Otherwise, I'll avoid your tracks. It puts me at a disadvantage though... not having the ability to assess Brent's opinions of the songs by SEVEN of you! Guess the same warning (and handicap) goes for you Brent if they use those songs in my roulette first.
Yeah I saw Mystery in your list and it gave me the idea to send it actually :biggrin:
I'd only heard the new one and didn't rate it. A couple of decent songs in the albums I checked out but nothing wowed me.
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Slapshot for the win!
Nice Chad.
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PoS however have just never done anything for me. I have Remedy Lane but don't remember a thing about it. I bought that after seeing them support DT and enjoying their set. I'll have to give them another go.
Remedy Lane is the only album I have and , like I said in my write up , the only song I rated top marks was the instrumental. Hence the slot in my DTF faves. The song submitted in Rd 1 here obviously impressed me a lot more than anything on that album ,so there is hope for me and PoS. I do wonder though what the strike rate is going to be across the whole catalogue .
Fair enough H - when's your roulette? ;D
When I find the time, so :soon: ;D
Probably should first participate in some to get a feel for it.
Good idea. I'll look forward to yours - plenty of common ground methinks.
Brent, if you don't like Remedy Lane, even though you liked Iter Impius, you seriously won't like Be at all.
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To echo Lowdz and Bolsters, there may be repeats in the two roulettes.
Alright, alright...
Dave... I already know Karnya.
Paul... ditto for Mystery.
Otherwise, I'll avoid your tracks. It puts me at a disadvantage though... not having the ability to assess Brent's opinions of the songs by SEVEN of you! Guess the same warning (and handicap) goes for you Brent if they use those songs in my roulette first.
I was thinking of possibly doubling up on a couple too.
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I'm just staying in the background… Going rogue… You never know what I'm going to do :hat :hat
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Sent a DTF fave. Expecting lowest score :lol
Btw, what your take on ballads?
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Sent a DTF fave. Expecting lowest score :lol
Prediction: Heavy Devy
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Would you please stop? Boo fucking hoo! ;D
You (and Dave and Paul) were the ones who whined first!!! "Please don't listen to my music because my library is so limited I only have 15 songs that might appeal to both you and Brent that you don't already know"
Boo fucking hoo!
:rollin :rollin
I'll be kind and avoid any new songs from you pussies. It just means you should just feel an even greater amount of shame when I kick your asses here though.
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Guess the same warning (and handicap) goes for you Brent if they use those songs in my roulette first.
No probs ..........I can't see the tracks I have lined up being changed anyway.
Sent a DTF fave. Expecting lowest score :lol
Btw, what your take on ballads?
I have no issue with ballads at all. Good melodies ,nice vocal/guitar work and there's a decent chance I will like it.
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SPOILER ALERT!!! :lol
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OOOOOOOO I just got a GREAT idea for a ballad to send.
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I'll send a song tomorrow, sorry for slacking guys.
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Song sent.
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Aside from Evermind's track I have completed my first listen and at this point I can say that the scores will cover a much wider range than the 8 - 10.5 of the last round.
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I have a feeling that's my fault.
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Aside from Evermind's track I have completed my first listen and at this point I can say that the scores will cover a much wider range than the 8 - 10.5 of the last round.
So somebody reached 11? :lol
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Ummm.......NO! :lol
Unless Evermind has more tricks up his sleeve.
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Sent. Not an instrumental, so no 11 for me.
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The good news is that this is a much easier batch to rank/rate and no need to agonise over 6-8 listens like I did for Round One. I hope to have results up Monday night Aussie time.
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Aside from Evermind's track I have completed my first listen and at this point I can say that the scores will cover a much wider range than the 8 - 10.5 of the last round.
This doesn't sound like good news to me. :lol
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(https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/raw-1340962890-595x417.jpg) for some of you ;)
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I have no idea what that means, but it doesn't seem to be a good thing
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It's a vid capture from a horrible 80's pop version of the song "The Only Way Is Up". :D I thought it'd be pretty well known as it was saturation point here at the time.
Just Wiki'd it and luckily for you it didn't chart near as well in the US as it did in Europe and Oz.
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Our short haired girls were Annie Lennox, (Her voice is angelic) Marie Fredriksson from Roxette (Good Voice) and Dolores O'Riordan from the Cranberries. (I love her voice)
Those are the short haired female singers I remember.
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They were all pretty huge out here too king - especially Eurythmics and Roxette.
Does the chick from Transvision Vamp count? :lol
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You know which act is big here in the Philippines in the 1980s? AIR SUPPLY. They are so big that it's still on regular airplay in FM radio today.
Thank you, Oz, for bringing us Air Supply. :lol
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Happy to ship them over free of charge Erwin :lol
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They were all pretty huge out here too king - especially Eurythmics and Roxette.
Does the chick from Transvision Vamp count? :lol
I never heard of her! :lol
I did see Roxette at a free radio concert one. They were good but I saw the Canberries and I was blown away with her voice.
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Happy to ship them over free of charge Erwin :lol
So you're all out of love then?
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(https://i.imgur.com/sPwgpLj.gif)
:lol
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:lol
My lol is like the ending of that song. LOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
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Happy to ship them over free of charge Erwin :lol
Here's Journey frontman Arnel Pineda doing an Air Supply medley with an orchestral arrangment.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWFcL4cXzew
You're welcome. :rollin
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Aside from Evermind's track I have completed my first listen and at this point I can say that the scores will cover a much wider range than the 8 - 10.5 of the last round.
Yeah it's probably me lol
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I have no idea what that means, but it doesn't seem to be a good thing
This made me laugh, only because I knew what it meant.
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Happy Monday, everyone!
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Happy Monday, everyone!
All on schedule - one final listen and we'll be good to go for tonight Aussie time.
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Not sure if (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/happy_dance_by_xelioth.gif~original) or (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/nervous.gif~original)
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Not sure if (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/happy_dance_by_xelioth.gif~original) or (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/nervous.gif~original)
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:corn
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Some of you guys seemed to be under the impression that an 8 is a low end mark from me or something...well this round will set you straight. ;D Rd 1 was just a really strong round across the board and you guys did a great job. This round..
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And in a rather unexpected development ,the most memorable songs and melodies (there’s that word again) of the round were from some classical music and a piano/string ballad. If anyone had predicted that at the start of my roulette they would’ve been advised to check in to a padded cell stat . Very little is turning out the way I thought it would so far in this roulette.
Before I get to the marks I will respond to a couple of PM questions by reiterating how I go about marking songs. I don’t get into rating the various aspects of the music individually – musicianship, catchiness,production, songwriting etc....... and average that out. I try and keep things simple so it’s just a matter of letting all these things filter through the ear drums into a single question – how often do I want to play this song in the future , if at all. I have been regularly checking back on the little summary I did of the ranking bands in my OP so as to remain as consistent as possible with that.
A lot of this round’s scores will no doubt be ditched at the conclusion of Round 5 , so let’s push ahead to Round 3 with a renewed sense of purpose :lol Those of you trailing a bit and holding back your best songs for the later rounds might want to bring a song or two forward and worry about replacing them later because, for the last time , a perfect score is still theoretically possible from here.
1) Dead End: Danse Macabre – erwinrafael Rating : 7
This song is from a Japanese band , sung in Japanese and takes me back to 80’s Loudness – just not quite as good in my opinion. I don’t mind the tone in the vocal (the Japanese guys all have a similar sound) and the non-English lyrics don’t bother me. I like a good part of the song but the main riff is real unimaginative generic 80’s metal and grated on me a bit – my favourite part was the solo section which is pretty cool , again reminding me of Loudness with the crunchy backing rhythms. Overall I rate it a solid song but that’s all.
2) Stream of Passion : Wherever You Are – Bolsters Rating – 8 + 1 bonus =9
There seems to be some aspects in common to Arjen’s music and my feelings about it – some very nice (often female) vocals/harmonies and keys interspersed with plodding metal power chords , which tend to drain much of the life out of the songs for me. For a guitar head like me it might shock you but my favourite parts here are the vocals/keys both with and without the palm muted guitar. This shorter song contained less of the plodding metal than the Dickinson track of the last round and thus scored higher.
The main melody – “wherever you are......” - reminds me a bit of a haunting Enya-like atmosphere (or early Within Temptation) which I don’t mind at all in small doses. When the guitars kicked in and sped up a bit underneath the female vocal at the end I enjoyed that more in terms of the “metal” parts of the song. A hard one to mark as I quite enjoyed three quarters of the song – in the end I lent towards an 8 rather than my initial 7.5 because the non-guitar parts and vocals were so nice.
One bonus point here as it qualifies as “Arjen stuff” as he is a key writer/performer here.
3) Blondie :Living In The Real World - TAC Rating= 6
This sort of punkish pop really isn’t my cup of tea which I am sure comes as a huge surprise to everyone. It’s not a song that is irritating enough to really make it a tough listen and as a pop tune it’s catchy enough I suppose , but I have no real desire to hear it again.
4) Riverside : Driven To Destruction – kingshmegland Rating 6.5 + 1 bonus = 7.5
This band can obviously play and I quite liked the atmospheric intro /lead in riff the covered the first couple of minutes, but in the end this track isn’t too different to the ones I have sampled that saw them send up on the DTF faves list. Unfortunately the sort of prog metal that gives me goosebumps (I&W being the pinnacle) and this sort of stuff aren’t really in the same universe - to my ears anyway. The instrumental break around 3.20 was quite nice but aside from that and the intro I found the vocals just okay and the rhythm guitars/keys pretty “noisy” with little in the way of memorable melodies or rhythms.
5) Queensryche: Right Side of My Mind - jjrock88 Rating = 7.5
The Primal Fear track in the last round was an example of where I hadn’t bothered to check out all of a band’s albums due to finding the band very inconsistent . I just couldn’t be bothered searching for the nuggets. You did a great job of finding a huge nugget with your Round 1 selection. Queensryche are a different kettle of fish though – one of my favourite bands and the fact is that in most cases like this ,if I don’t own an album then there’s probably a good reason.
I will admit that this is better than the vast majority of stuff that I have heard post- Promised Land , so it’s a canny selection, but it has much of the vibe of an average track from the Promised Land (or HITNF) era which I don’t rate very highly either. A decent enough song that I would be happy to throw on every now and then.
6) Holst: The Planets Op 32- IV Jupiter – Big Hath Rating 8.5 + 0.5 bonus =9
Big Hath picks up the first half bonus point for taking me way out of my comfort zone . I own zero classical albums so there’s little doubt there - I did study plenty of classical in my music studies over 20 years ago and did play in a number of orchestral performances (hidden away at the back with my Steve Vai Ibanez JEM :lol) , but that’s about the extent of it. The music here does have a very dramatic feel that is obviously very much at home in movie scores and there were many familiar moments , especially the melody at 1.40. I had to really have a long think about rating this one using the stated criteria and in the end I came to the conclusion that while I am too set in my ways at this point in time to be handing out 10’s for this style of music (meaning I am drooling over it and wanting to replay it immediately)– or listening to whole classical albums in a single sitting- I do have a great enough appreciation for the writing/performance to award an 8.5 +0.5 I would happily listen to this on regular rotation as a bit of a break from my usual stuff. So a risky submission that has come off for Mr Hath who has elected not to use his instrumental bonus point here.
7) Buckethead: Soothsayer – Lowdz Rating 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5
I am glad to get some Buckethead music here because I really can’t be stuffed wading through his daily new album releases to find a few nuggets. The name of this song does ring a bell in that I am pretty sure I have heard it mentioned as one of his best. One thing I will give it is that it didn’t seem like 9 minutes , so that’s a good sign , and the opening lick while very simple is a quite catchy and soothing melody. From a technical and songwriting perspective I don’t get the feeling that he’s quite in the absolute upper echelon of players but having said that I did find it an enjoyable listen and have rated accordingly. Is this from one of his top 50 albums Paul? :lol
8) Sturm und Drang: Last Of The Heroes - jingle.boy Rating = 7.5
You’re not making things easy for me Chad. This is solid melodic metal with a huge sound that reminds me a bit of bands like Brother Firetribe and the like. I could say I have heard it all before , but in this case I actually have :lol Unfortunately the thing that stands out like dog’s balls here is that , aside from a few notes being thrown around for cover, the main riff (guitar/key) is a blatant rip off of the Pretty Maids’ classic Future World......being a Pretty Maids fan yourself I am surprised that it didn’t jump out at you?? Then I had to have a good think about how much that actually affects my enjoyment of the song. The answer is it does a little bit ,but not enough to mark it down hard (as some might). Solid song which luckily did have some of its own personality outside of the issue with the main riff.
9) Animals as Leaders: Tooth and Claw – splent Rating = 4.5 +1 bonus = 5.5
At one point in my life I played guitar in a band that (amongst other things) did DT covers , so it’s not as if I don’t appreciate the precision involved in some of these djenty rhythms but to me I am afraid most of this down tuned/7 string staccato, syncopated , dissonant stuff just registers with my brain as noise after a short while...............like 5 seconds. There are some breaks (1.30 and 2.30) in the song where some nice melodies/rhythms happen but it’s all too short. Sorry splent- not my style of instrumental at all. Despite your place at the bottom of the standings you can afford this little hiccup after your first round score , so don’t sweat it........yet ;D
10) Porcupine Tree: Shallow – Sacul 8 + 1 bonus = 9
You mentioned that you thought it was a risk sending this and I think you’re right :) The sort of grungy edge that this has isn’t something I normally like at all but , in the same way that I like AiC’s Man In A Box , there’s enough catchy stuff/variety going on with the rhythms to offset that to a large extent. I am not sure if this is enough to get me to check out more PT or not.
11) Cryonic Temple: The Sleep Of The Innocent/When Hell Freezes Over – wolfkip Rating = 8
This one has a nice instrumental intro that builds into a solid power metal song. The music is pretty standard stuff but catchy enough to get me tapping the feet and the guitars after the solo section have a real majestic feel. The singer took a while to get used to – to me he sounds like he would fit well into a Bay Area thrash band and the melodic power metal style is a bit out of his comfort zone. In the end I got myself to the point where he wasn’t annoying me and I suppose it adds a bit of originality that he doesn’t sound like everyone else. Good song.
12) Jon Lord: Pictured Within – Evermind Rating = 9.5
Once again Evermind produces something that illustrates that I am open to being pushed around a little if the right ingredients are there. The piano and strings work together here to create a lush landscape of melodies within a melancholy ballad. I wouldn’t say the singer is a stand out but his voice is perfect for this song and a great vehicle for Lord’s music which is a really nice listen. Not quite far enough “out there” to attract the half bonus point but definitely not within my normal listening zone. You’re on fire mate – so far you have shown an ability to distil what I like in my music and use it to pick great songs from artists/styles that wouldn’t normally be my cuppa tea. Add a shredding guitar solo and it would’ve been a ten :neverusethis:
Standings: *= number of bonus points used Only jjrock is yet to use a bonus point.
Evermind 20*
Sacul 18*
Lowdz 18*
Big Hath 18*
Bolsters 18*
jjrock 17.5
erwinrafael 16.5*
wolfking 16*
jingle.boy 16*
kingshmegland 15.5*
TAC 15*
splent 14.5*
These standings are only indicative until we reach round 6 , but with 2 rounds out of the way
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Banned:
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Blondie
Buckethead
Cryonic Temple
Dead End
Holst
Jon Lord
Karnya
Mystery
Pain of Salvation
Primal Fear
Queensryche
Riverside
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
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Damn, I dropped from the Magic 6. Time to get serious. :p
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2) Stream of Passion : Wherever You Are – Bolsters Rating – 8 + 1 bonus =9
There seems to be some aspects in common to Arjen’s music and my feelings about it – some very nice (often female) vocals/harmonies and keys interspersed with plodding metal power chords , which tend to drain much of the life out of the songs for me. For a guitar head like me it might shock you but my favourite parts here are the vocals/keys both with and without the palm muted guitar. This shorter song contained less of the plodding metal than the Dickinson track of the last round and thus scored higher.
The main melody – “wherever you are......” - reminds me a bit of a haunting Enya-like atmosphere (or early Within Temptation) which I don’t mind at all in small doses. When the guitars kicked in and sped up a bit underneath the female vocal at the end I enjoyed that more in terms of the “metal” parts of the song. A hard one to mark as I quite enjoyed three quarters of the song – in the end I lent towards an 8 rather than my initial 7.5 because the non-guitar parts and vocals were so nice.
It's funny that your favourite parts were the lighter vocal/keyboard moments, because after I sent this song I thought that might drag down my rating and I regretted not sending one of their songs that contained more rock/metal. :lol I really thought this would be one of my dropped scores.
Just a friendly reminder aswell, to use the first R2 submission I sent as my song this round.
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Nice, glad you liked it. I can start taking some risks now, I guess.
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Shallow is the only song I know from PT, what are the odds.
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Just a friendly reminder aswell, to use the first R2 submission I sent as my song this round.
Noted.
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I wondered whether Buckethead was "the real deal" or just all hype. I've hard enough great stuff from him to say he is a great talent. Unfortunately he records alot of complete shite too (imo :biggrin:) - stuff far too weird and "noisy"for me, though certainly complex. He makes Steve Vai seem like a normal down to Earth bloke.
Soothsayer is one of his more down to earth tracks. I feel it sums the lighter side of him up well - there's feeling, melody and flash in there and it builds nicely throughout.
I'm no expert on his stuff (who could be?) but I prefer his mellow side, Colma, Captain Eo's Voyage, Electric Tears are excellent. The rest I've heard is very hit and miss.
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I'll take that score considering some of the others.
Excuse my blatant arrogance to the rules, but do we have to send at least one instrumental?
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You get a bonus point if you do send one, but there's nothing in the rules saying that you have to.
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Cool as.
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I'll take that score considering some of the others.
Excuse my blatant arrogance to the rules, but do we have to send at least one instrumental?
I will excuse your blatant arrogance to the rules but not your blatant ignorance of the OP :neverusethis: ;D
4) Themed Bonus : I have decided not to theme rounds , mostly because I reckon they disadvantage a portion of the players (translation: they’ve cost me dearly in a roulette or two as a participant :lol ) and can leave participants unable to send a lot of stuff they really wanted to. As an alternative I have an OPTIONAL bonus point system related to a couple of areas that interest me
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As I get older, my attention span just seems to be getting shorter and shorter.
I may send an instrumental later on.
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As expected. :lol
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Brent, my score should be 16.5. Not 17.
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Brent, my score should be 16.5. Not 17.
Thanks Erwin - I have changed all these ratings so many times as I got through multiple listens that something was bound to slip through at some point. I will double check them all again later.
Cheers.
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Brent, my score should be 16.5. Not 17.
What the hell are you doing bro?
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Brent.... my score should be 20. Clearly my submissions are superior to your ratings. Please update.
:lol
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I'm supposed to be 18 too, guess I should have read that ranking sooner. :biggrin:
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Sorry guys.........the scores I have copied and pasted in (standings) are an earlier draft. Chad - your song had a riff copy and pasted in and will not be upgraded ;D
EDIT: All good - was just Bolsters and Erwin with errors. Apologies again.
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Damn, this was more than expected :o. It may not blow your mind, but I think you'll enjoy that PT album ;D
Shallow is the only song I know from PT, what are the odds.
You do *really* need to check more of their stuff - its almost a sin on this forum :angel:
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shallow would not make my PT top 50, and I don't even have half their discography :lol
do yourself a favor and go check out In Absentia or Deadwing in full
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Sent
:onfire:
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Sent as well, and I'm sending Chad the same song in his next round. ;D
One of them has to like it! :lol
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No we don't. :lol
Guess I'll find out in a day or two what I'm going up against this round.
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ok, wow. I thought there was a small chance it would connect, but that is great! I would say Jupiter and Mars are the stars of that work (Mars being one of the most quoted classical works in hard rock/prog/heavy metal), and the others ,while maybe not being quite up your alley, are at least worth a listen.
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Son of a.........
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Son of a.........
... that's gonna leave a mark.
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I'll send my song tonight.
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Boo.
Oh well.
I have an idea or two of a power ballad that may cater to your taste. If I lose I lose.
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Round 3 sent
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Sent.
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Sent some pretty obscure prog metal.
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
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Sorry guys.........the scores I have copied and pasted in (standings) are an earlier draft.
EDIT: All good - was just Bolsters and Erwin with errors. Apologies again.
Shit happens...I did it once during my roulette aswell.
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
OK. Still getting the hang of this roulette stuff and just realizing how limited my collection of music is compared to a lot of you.
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
OK. Still getting the hang of this roulette stuff and just realizing how limited my collection of music is compared to a lot of you.
Is this your first? If so, you picked the wrong roulette to participate in.
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Yeah... you want someone who's going to be gentle on your first time; someone who'll understand be patient that your stamina isn't quite what it needs to be; someone who won't be bothered if it takes you a little longer to get it in because you're not quite sure how it's done, or what they'll like.
Wait... what are we talking about again?
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Yeah... you want someone who's going to be gentle on your first time; someone who'll understand be patient that your stamina isn't quite what it needs to be; someone who won't be bothered if it takes you a little longer to get it in because you're not quite sure how it's done, or what they'll like.
Wait... what are we talking about again?
It doesn't matter, please keep going.
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Round 3 sent.
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Yeah... you want someone who's going to be gentle on your first time
I was gentle in the first round :lol
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
OK. Still getting the hang of this roulette stuff and just realizing how limited my collection of music is compared to a lot of you.
Is this your first? If so, you picked the wrong roulette to participate in.
The hard thing is that a lot of my music is in casette tapes!
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Youtube is your friend
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
OK. Still getting the hang of this roulette stuff and just realizing how limited my collection of music is compared to a lot of you.
Is this your first? If so, you picked the wrong roulette to participate in.
That is what you told me… And I'm still not phased. If anything it will give me the experience to totally blow everybody away for the next one. :lol
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There's no rule against submitting a 17-minute song in the elims, right?
That's fine . There's no "epic round"or anything so if you have an epic you wish to send then go for it.
OK. Still getting the hang of this roulette stuff and just realizing how limited my collection of music is compared to a lot of you.
Is this your first? If so, you picked the wrong roulette to participate in.
That is what you told me… And I'm still not phased. If anything it will give me the experience to totally blow everybody away for the next one. :lol
Righto then matey.
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Sent!
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Thanks king - I have 10 of 12 . If we can get the rest in today (Wed) then results should be up over the weekend.
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I have had most of the submissions here for 2 days now ,so I will get started listening. Still 2 to go but I'm itching to have a listen and trying to pick songs out of my mega Chad playlist while I wait is giving me the shits :lol
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Mega Chad must be a laxative then! :lol
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Mega Chad must be a laxative then! :lol
Makes sense... most people I deal with are full of shit.
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Mega Chad must be a laxative then! :lol
Makes sense... most people I deal with are full of shit.
:lol
Ah, life of a salesman........
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Thanks king - I have 10 of 12 . If we can get the rest in today (Wed) then results should be up over the weekend.
Will send something when I get home. Don't know what yet! Spent all evening yesterday looking for something awesome.
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Thanks king - I have 10 of 12 . If we can get the rest in today (Wed) then results should be up over the weekend.
Will send something when I get home. Don't know what yet! Spent all evening yesterday looking for something awesome.
The 70s playing field is pretty open. 60s too I hear. ;)
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And the 50's , the 40's..........and the 90's :lol
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And the 50's , the 40's..........and the 90's :lol
After the last round the 1800s are pretty good too!
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That was around 1915 thank you ;D But yeah - there is likely more popular music written in the 1800's that would impress me than the 1990's ....or right now.
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Will send in a few hours.
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Sent.
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Got all the songs in now - there's a few tracks in here (like Rd 1 ) that are going to take a few extra listens to settle on a rating. Aiming for Monday night results our time , but that's tentative.
If you guys think it's worthwhile I am happy to attempt what has been done in some other roulettes where (after the first couple of listens) I give an idea of where I think the song ranks for YOU compared to your other rounds. If you're not fussed then I'm not either :biggrin:
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Sounds great to me - bring it on!
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Got all the songs in now - there's a few tracks in here (like Rd 1 ) that are going to take a few extra listens to settle on a rating. Aiming for Monday night results our time , but that's tentative.
If you guys think it's worthwhile I am happy to attempt what has been done in some other roulettes where (after the first couple of listens) I give an idea of where I think the song ranks for YOU compared to your other rounds. If you're not fussed then I'm not either :biggrin:
Yeah I'd like to see how much you like mine ;)
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Well at least I know you'll like this submission more than the last one! :lol
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I assume you'd be wrong :lol
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I assumed that would be your response ;D :tup
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I assume that you are assuming that I'll assume that you'll assume that he's going to assume that you will assumedly like the assumption that you enjoy the music
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I'm not fussed.
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I'm not fussed.
Same.
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Cool............not a big deal for many it seems. I will just give a ratings range and some general thoughts on the round after the first couple of listens and we'll leave further detail until the proper results.
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That sounds cool enough for me.
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Maybe for fun, you can just give us an advanced preview of the additions in the banned artist list. :rollin
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I'm not fussed.
Maybe it keeps the thread alive whilst the listening goes on I guess. I don't mind either way.
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See how we go - I'll post something on the weekend after a couple of listens and if i think there are some quotes from draft reviews that might create some uncertainty as to whose song they might be about then I'll post them as a tease............Evermind style.
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No write ups to sample from as yet but I have some rough marks and the songs ranked and I think we're looking at a round that's better than Rd 2 but not as good as Rd 1.
Rankings likely to be in the range of 5.5/6 to 9/9.5 , so nothing sub 5 this time around. :angel:
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5? Bloody hell, I'm nervous.
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5? Bloody hell, I'm nervous.
yikes, Brent is getting serious
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5? Bloody hell, I'm nervous.
That means some suckah scored lower than Blondie!! :metal
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That'll be me.
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That'll be me.
Confident then?
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That'll be me.
I wouldn't be so sure.
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Lots of confidence going on in this thread.
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That'll be me.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Brent isn't using the same rank scoring you are. We could both be getting 5! (https://i1337.photobucket.com/albums/o669/bolsters/hi5.gif~original)
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Even if I get 5 (which I really doubt), I've got two great rounds already, so I can allow myself a slip or two.
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Some short selections from draft comments (not everyone could be covered without giving it away) ............still aiming for final results Monday night. See if anyone guesses
"If I had rated this after the first 30 seconds then you could perhaps cut your score in half"
"So a solid rock song that would’ve been rated lower but for the fact that it (unusually) connected with me in a way that my favourite band of all time does."
"I am no Pink Floyd expert but I felt like there was plenty of Floydian influence in some of the melodies too."
"This song is perfectly serviceable prog metal but doesn’t really bring any highlights to the table for me."
"there is enough good prog metal stuff in there to suggest this band has a song that will impress me more than this one does. So I will check out the relevant album"
" So I spent a number of days preparing my ears for the torture and in the end I was pleasantly surprised"
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I don't think any of those are about mine.
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Mine is in there.
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"I am no Pink Floyd expert but I felt like there was plenty of Floydian influence in some of the melodies too."
This could be mine, but it's a stretch. I think my song isn't there.
And I'm listening to my song again, and damn, I do love it so much. Maybe I should've went with it in Chad's too.
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There's one comment that may apply to mine, but I know most of those don't. Argh the anticipation....
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Mine is in there.
It most certainly is. Mine could be as well.
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Mine is in there.
It most certainly is.
:lol
That's what I was afraid of.
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Mine could be the first 30 second one. Mine lives and dies on its chorus...
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I'm in trouble. I know which one is mine dammit.
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So somebody already submitted Haken?
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So somebody already submitted Haken?
Nope
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So somebody already submitted Haken?
Nope
OK. I thought you were referring to them with this:
"there is enough good prog metal stuff in there to suggest this band has a song that will impress me more than this one does. So I will check out the relevant album"
:lol
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The anticipation is killing me, but I have to go home now. :lol
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"This song is perfectly serviceable prog metal but doesn’t really bring any highlights to the table for me."
"there is enough good prog metal stuff in there to suggest this band has a song that will impress me more than this one does. So I will check out the relevant album"
One of these are mine, for sure. Hopefully the second by the sounds of it.
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An interesting round this one and another one that took a bit of time with the ratings. It’s nice to see some strong ratings for a couple of you that haven’t managed one so far – for those that are still waiting
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and there’s still 2 rounds to put yourself in a strong position for the second half of the roulette. As far as I am concerned everyone is still very much in the game.
I actually upgraded the stragglers a bit on the final listen so the range of marks is 6.5 – 9.5.
Not too many of you were right in terms of picking the preview comments . I’ll keep that going in future rounds as I know I enjoyed that in Evermind’s roulette. The preview comments have been done in italics in the full reviews.
1) Almah : Trace of Trait – wolfking. Rating = 9.5
If I had rated this after the first 30 seconds then you could perhaps cut your score in half – it had a real modern metal/industrial vibe with the feeling that djent (and all that often means for my rankings) was just around the corner , but then the melodies kicked in and despite feeling at times like it really shouldn’t , this song actually works. The modern metal vibe continues on and off throughout the song but there’s enough melody , nice guitar and well integrated progressive moments at to keep me a happy camper. I have sampled this band in the past due to the Angra connection and wasn’t all that impressed, but on the basis of this song I will certainly reconsider.
I listed the “modern metal vibe” as one of the reasons I didn’t like the new Pyramaze quite as much as everyone else. I feel this song pulls it off better than pretty much anything on the Pyramaze. Good stuff.
2) Mark Knopfler: So Far From The Clyde – Evermind Rating =9
You’re doing a good job of reconnecting me with the softer end of my musical taste sir. I have been on a bit of a metal binge the last few years and really haven’t been listening to anything from my collection that I would call relaxing. And it’s not that I don’t have plenty of it. This song has a nice folky Celtic vibe and although it doesn’t contain the best guitar work I have heard from Mark , it has that distinctive sound you expect and it does take me back to when Dire Straits were a big influence in my life. Looking back now, Brothers In Arms really should’ve made my DTF Top 50 – it got an honorable mention , mostly because I thought a couple of tracks (Money For Nothing mostly) had aged pretty badly. But it was one of my most played albums of the 80’s and this song brought back some memories of that.
I have never had an issue with mark’s “talky” vocal style – it suits his music quite nicely and his guitar tone has a magic about it. Really nice song.
3) Opeth : Harvest - Big Hath Rating =9
The only Opeth album I banned was Damnation but I have heard Blackwater Park once (and that’s plenty enough thanks) –so what are the odds of Mr Hath picking the one song on that album that I liked? A good effort there at judging my taste and applying it to another “DTF fave”. This is a really pleasant song with some nice melodies. I am no Pink Floyd expert but I felt like there was plenty of Floydian influence in some of the melodies too.
4) Blind Guardian : Tanelorn (Into The Void) – Lowdz Rating = 9
I mentioned in my write up on the Primal Fear in Rd 1 that I like Scheepers, but that the songs he sings on often don’t live up to expectations. Well Hansi is in a similar boat for me. I have a couple of Blind Guardian albums but have never really considered them a big favourite. I also have some Demons and Wizards and they’re another good illustration. I only like a few of their tracks but one in particular (Love’s Tragedy Asunder) is an all time metal fave. So when I do like a song with Hansi I usually like it quite a bit as he does have a very strong and distinctive vocal tone. I am not sure that this song will ever be an all time fave but it’s a strong power metal track with some nice moments and was a bit of a grower.
5) Jimi Hendrix: Fire –jingle.boy Rating = 8.5
I am one of the few guitarists ( or ex-guitarists in my case ) who has never really rated Jimi as a player ...........along with Marty Friedman who copped plenty of shit for saying he doesn't know what all the fuss is about with Hendrix.
I totally get his influence and so forth but to me the players of the 60’s and 70’s were miles behind the greats (or even average players) of the 80’s in terms of technique and therefore (technique being only one aspect) the only thing left to impress me from that period is the melodic/rhythmic side of things and I heard little from Hendrix over the years that did much for me there. That’s not to say that he didn’t have some decent songs though ,or that I have sampled enough of his stuff to write him off totally. I just didn’t get the urge to dig deeper based on what I had heard.
So this song is short and to the point , features some decent guitar work I suppose but the appeal here for me is the groove/swagger/attitude. It’s no coincidence that Van Halen are my favourite band –not only do I love the music but there is a real cheekiness/humour in their music(DLR era more so) that really connects with me. I also used to listen to James Brown with my sister as kids and we would be rolling around crying with laughter listening to him in songs like Living in America with all the grunts and attitude. I believe Hendrix played with James Brown at one point and you can hear some of that influence in this song. “Move over Rover and let Jimi take over”...... :lol So a solid rock song that would’ve been rated lower but for the fact that it (unusually) connected with me in a way that my favourite band of all time does. Good job getting me to rate a 60’s song highly :tup
6) Shineback: Rise Up Forgotten, Return Destroyed – Bolsters. Rating =8.5
Seeing as you had already sent this in advance I had plenty of time to stew on it while I waited for the other entries for Rd 3. So I decided to check out its Amazon listing .........after typing it in I noticed that this 10 min + song was filed away under Dance/Electronica . So after my nervous breakdown I spent a number of days preparing my ears for the torture , but in the end I was pleasantly surprised.
There is certainly plenty of electronic elements in the music but given the amount of guitar (thankfully) I wouldn’t have any trouble labelling this progressive rock. I think I will anyway as I don’t want anyone thinking that I like dance/electronic music :neverusethis:
In the end I didn’t struggle too much with the 10.5 minute journey as the vocal melodies were nice , the underlying rhythms were surprisingly catchy (if a little repetitive) and the guitar solo work through the midsection was really quite good. I seem to be noting vocalists sounding like Joseph Williams a lot , but the singer here has that sort of tone which is fine with me. The only period where I zoned out a bit –and this probably cost it half a point - was the section post the guitar solos (6.10-8.10) which was mostly acapella vocals and I felt it lost a lot of the song’s momentum. Overall though I liked it.
I am surprising myself with some of this stuff –maybe the old dog is open to a few new tricks after all. :hat
7) X Japan: Endless Rain – erwinrafael Rating =7.5
Another erwin selection from the Land of the Rising Sun – this time a ballad. X Japan were a band that I have thought about checking out over the years but never got around to. I can see that they certainly have some talent and I enjoyed the song , but having said that I am not sure that the distinctive vocal tone of a Japanese male singer and the “Engrish” work as well in a melancholy ballad as they do in metal. Nice bridge/solo section and some other nice melodies here and there. Not a stand out song I wouldn’t have thought but a solid effort nonetheless .
8) Iron Maiden : Dream of Mirrors –jjrock88 Rating =7.5
I am a fairly recent “convert” to Iron Maiden – enough to rate a decent number of their songs very highly. Somewhere in Time and SSOASS in particular have a consistency for me that was lacking in most of their other albums – the rest of the “classic era” albums all contain songs I really enjoy but also plenty that I don’t.. My exposure to the modern era has been limited to the Best Of: From Fear To Eternity and I like many of the songs on that too. I also checked out Book Of Souls.
Having said that I still rate a large swag of their material (including much of the latest album) as little more than “solid” heavy metal and am still nowhere near comprehending the drooling worship that they seem to get for almost everything they release.
So this track is from Brave New World , which is one of the albums that (based on feedback from others) is one of the modern era albums that is likely to be up my alley. This particular song , like many of theirs, contains a catchy little lick that forms the basis of the song + lyrics/melodies that become rather repetitive and come very close to wearing out their welcome. I was very thankful for the change in pace at 5.50 as I was just about to switch off. It seemed like the song was about to go to a whole new level/direction but then we end up with the same old chorus again shortly after , just faster and with a fairly rough transition.
In the end I think this is a strong song but it’s one which has about 5 or 6 mins worth of musical/lyrical ideas filling out a nine and a half minute song. Take a scalpel to it and it gets an 8 or 8.5.
9) Apple Pie : The Gates of Never – kingshmegland Rating =7
I am itching to give you a strong score king , so don’t get too discouraged and give up on me with the prog metal/rock type stuff. I can see what you have tried to do with this and I think you are on the right track in many ways. In other ways you went backwards – introducing growlies possibly wasn’t a great move as I have warned against this. And if he’s gotta growl then at least sound mean and nasty – this guy sounds like he just needs a Butter Menthol :lol
As I have mentioned previously prog rock/metal is arguably my favourite type of music when it is right in my little bullseye zone , but I also lose patience very quickly when too much time is filled in with little more than syncopated/proggy rhythms or muso wankery .........I need some melody, funkiness etc...nearby/around the corner at all times. This sort of thin ice that prog rock/metal bands tread with me can see a large part of my DTF Top 50 filled with prog metal at the same time as the band responsible for one of my top 3 albums ever (Images and Words) has other albums that I would rank very low . It’s not uncommon for I&W and ToT to rank #1 and #2 in a DTF album list but as far as my taste goes they are on totally different planets.
So Images and Words is the absolute pinnacle for me – lots of progressive elements but just about every second has its place and the more proggy moments either involve melody, funky rhythms or resolve very quickly into another melodic moment. In this situation I find that the prog very much adds to the equation . I have a band or two that I recently discovered that are on the lighter side of prog rock/ metal and nail a lot of the elements I like - but I am keeping them up my sleeve for Chad’s roulette. :angel:
Another interesting thing that you have introduced me to king is the concept of a song that I love half of and dislike the rest. That doesn’t happen very often but it’s been a bit of a common thread with a couple of your songs and it makes them pretty hard to rate. Am I going to listen regularly to a song with extended sections that I dislike ? – probably not. But do they contain some great moments and deserve a better score than most songs I have no desire to hear again – certainly. Usually I either like a song or I don’t. So I have broken down this song into bits and made brief comment so you can see how I am thinking as I move through it.
0.00 – 2.00 - cool , catchy progressive rhythms with a nice serene melodic interlude around 1.30
2.00- rhythm under vocal seems mostly prog for progs sake –not particularly interesting and loses momentum
3.00- nice melody and vocal , sounds like Joe Williams
3.20 - another proggy section that’s alright
3.40 - another vocal over reasonably catchy rhythm but growls beginning........mine beginning too. Aaaaargghh. :lol
4.15- losing momentum..............proggy rhythms going nowhere
4.35- back to chorus
4.55 - DT like proggy rhythm – cool for a little while but outlasts its welcome....needs to resolve somewhere meaningful much quicker
5.30 back to the main (better) proggy rhythm but getting repetitive at this point
6.20 - growls suck......this guy makes MP sound awesome and seems to have taken “cookie monster” a bit too literally.
7.15- another proggy section that seems to be proggy for the sake of it - finishes with some nice guitar though
7.50 - cool DT like rhythm that has me into it again
8.20 - back to main rhythm which is nice , but getting a bit old by this point.
8.35- chorus ...........nice enough.
On my normal scale this would’ve rated a 6 as I cannot see myself returning to it for the reasons mentioned,but there is enough good stuff in there to suggest a couple of things:
1) I can exercise a bit of discretion and bump up the rating a bit, and
2) this band most likely has a song that will impress me more than this one does. So I will check out the relevant album.
So after all that I decided on a 7 as a bit of a compromise. Sorry for the essay but I wanted to give some more detailed feedback ,as I know you're capable of really impressing with a few tweaks .
10) Last Crack: Energy Mind – Sacul Rating =7
This song is perfectly serviceable prog metal but doesn’t really bring any highlights to the table for me – I can’t say that I was impressed with the rhythms, melodies or musicianship. I do hear some Kings X style chord structures in there at times , which I don’t mind , but there’s too few valleys and troughs for mine. Fairly one dimensional and just okay in all departments.
11)The Sacrificed: 24 - TAC Rating =6.5
5? Bloody hell, I'm nervous.
That means some suckah scored lower than Blondie!! :metal
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Well Tim – I warned you against assuming (hint,hint ;) ) and then you went ahead again and made the suckah comment ..........in poker they say that if you’re at the table and you don’t know who the suckah is then the suckah is you :lol
All jokes aside I feel a bit ordinary giving you such a low rating for a song that you had such confidence in , but it is what it is. Also bear in mind that on my rating scale in the OP that a mark of 6 isn’t diabolical. It represents a song that I consider decent but with little that impresses me or drags me in for repeat listens.
I have of course listened a number of times and I have tried to hear what you hear in this but to no avail. The thrashy riff is fairly catchy and there is some nice guitar work here and there but aside from that I didn’t hear much to talk about. The playing is okay , the vocalist is okay (but rather distant), the production/mix seems a bit of a mess to me and the song is just okay. The chorus does nothing for me. The midsection of the song is a mix of nice guitar work and dissonant semi-djenty stuff (repeated near the end) that I identify as noise.......that stuff likely cost a point or so. On the whole if I was forced to split the two 6.5’s I think I would take the Blondie. ;D
Luckily I upgraded the rating on this late in the piece from a 6 to 6.5 or it really would've sucked for The Sacrificed - being beaten by Blondie in a metalhead's roulette.
12) The Blitz: Untouchable Lady – splent Rating =6.5
I almost feel like I need to be careful here not to offend anyone you know (splent knows band members) but I can only be honest about what I am hearing and hopefully you’ll take it in that spirit. This reminds me a bit of the debut album from a band called White Sister in terms of its sound – chunky guitars + some keys but demo quality production. In White Sister’s case the album was saved by some strong songs and a stellar vocalist and is considered a bit of an underground classic. Unfortunately this band have just an okay song and a pretty poor vocalist – there’s the odd flat note and there’s a shocker flat on the guitar at 1.06. The riff driving the song , while simple ,is pretty cool with its unison bends etc...
It seems to me that this isn’t quite what the finished product would’ve been if these guys had seen a proper record deal and so it’s not entirely unexpected. It basically sounds like what I think it is – a fairly cliche song from a mid 80’s hard rock demo.
Updated Standings: Number of * = number of bonus points used.
Evermind 20+9=29*
Lowdz 18+9=27*
Big Hath 18+9=27*
Bolsters 18+8.5=26.5*
wolfking 16+9.5=25.5*
jjrock88 17.5+ 7.5=25
Sacul 18+7=25*
jingle.boy 16+8.5=24.5*
erwinrafael 16.5+7.5=24*
kingshmegland 15.5+7= 22.5*
TAC 15+6.5= 21.5*
splent 14.5+6.5 = 21*
As mentioned before these standings are indicative only until we complete Round 5.
Banned bands
Almah
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Cryonic Temple
Dead End
Holst
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
mark Knopfler
Mystery
Opeth
Pain of Salvation
Primal Fear
Queensryche
Riverside
Shineback
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Blitz
The Sacrificed
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
X Japan
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Mine is in there.
It most certainly is. Mine could be as well.
Nailed it... I was hoping/predicting on the right comment. Glad it connected with you.
Swinging for the fences now - gotta leap frog a few of you.
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Seeing as you had already sent this in advance I had plenty of time to stew on it while I waited for the other entries for Rd 3. So I decided to check out its Amazon listing .........after typing it in I noticed that this 10 min + song was filed away under Dance/Electronica . So after my nervous breakdown I spent a number of days preparing my ears for the torture , but in the end I was pleasantly surprised.
I had no idea it was categorised as Dance/Electronica anywhere so I never imagined that preview applying to me. :lol Though to be fair this is the most guitar-centric track on the album and I don't imagine much else on it would to appeal to you. Infact, Crush Culture (https://sigodfrey.bandcamp.com/track/crush-culture-2) is a lot closer to what you were expecting.
Fortunately this is a song roulette and not an album roulette. :biggrin:
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I'm not offended… Don't worry. It is a demo basically.. I mean they did go to the studio, but it was done around the time when music was starting to change. This was actually a song from prior band that constituted several of the members.
I have a feeling I'm gonna lose this roulette :lol oh well. First experience. You're a tough man to please LOL
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If I don't get into contention after my attempt for a bonus point next round, I might drop out. :lol
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9? I'm alright with that. Even if my next two scores are dropped, 29 in three rounds is definitely a fine result.
And damn you Paul, I was going to send some Blind Guardian later. Great pick though, love that song.
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And damn you Paul, I was going to send some Blind Guardian later. Great pick though, love that song.
Were you going to send Wheel of Time? Because I'm noticing a pattern here. :lol
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And damn you Paul, I was going to send some Blind Guardian later. Great pick though, love that song.
Were you going to send Wheel of Time? Because I'm noticing a pattern here. :lol
No, I don't think Brent would've appreciated Wheel of Time. Either something from Somewhere Far Beyond or Tanelorn / A Voice in the Dark or maybe The Throne from their latest.
And hey, it's only now I realized I've sent all three artists in your roulette too. :lol If it ain't broke, don't fix it I guess.
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I suck at this! :lol
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I'll take a 9, thank you very much.
My favourite BG song from my favourite BG album, htough I haven't heard anywhere near all of them. I agree with your remarks about Hansi's voice - in fact when I first tried them years ago I was put off by his voice and the folky (I hate folk - y wandering minstrel, hey nonny no crap- ie all those intros on Iron Maiden's FF album) intro of the track I heard.
Now I love Hansi's voice and I love the chorus on this track.
Now back to deciding what to send. Might send a risky one, another personal favourite. Best 3 scores out of the 5 isn't it?
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To those riding the caboose... stick with it - you can't please everyone all the time. I've finished dead last in in more roulette's than I've won - and 2nd last in a handful as well. Roulette's are about having fun, and exposing the organizer to music they wouldn't have otherwise known about or tried out. Sometimes when there's no chance of winning, that's when the "thinking too much" approach goes out the window, and you nail it. I finished last in Lucas', but nailed the final round with a near perfect score when I stopped caring. :lol
I have a band or two that I recently discovered that are on the lighter side of prog rock/ metal and nail a lot of the elements I like - but I am keeping them up my sleeve for Chad’s roulette. :angel:
I'm intrigued.
I suck at this! :lol
As did I in yours. I'll go gentler on you, k?
:hug:
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I suck at this! :lol
I think I suck worse. :mehlin
Anyways, Round 4 song sent. I'm going to throw hail Marys from now on, just to try and move up.
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Brent, that is some detail there. There is a 15 minute song from that album I almost sent. It has a 80's vibe to it. Completely different from the song I sent.
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Nice to see some X Japan love. I was holding on to them and Was going to send Art of Life.
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I heard a couple X Japan songs a few years ago on Nick's radio show, liked them well enough, but didn't explore them at all.
Wait... I've said too much.
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Round 4 sent
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Sent my next sucky song!
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And damn you Paul, I was going to send some Blind Guardian later. Great pick though, love that song.
Were you going to send Wheel of Time? Because I'm noticing a pattern here. :lol
I don't think you realised what you did there :lol
Expected a bit more. Oh well, I shall send something soon.
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Hahaha, even I missed it. :lol
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Sent.
Brent just spat his coffee out :biggrin:
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Nice to see some X Japan love. I was holding on to them and Was going to send Art of Life.
That song was a real showcase for Yoshiki, both drums and piano. I think it's too long an introductory song, though, because you have to be patient with the English delivery and the lyrics are really long!
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Nice to see some X Japan love. I was holding on to them and Was going to send Art of Life.
That song was a real showcase for Yoshiki, both drums and piano. I think it's too long an introductory song, though, because you have to be patient with the English delivery and the lyrics are really long!
True. A great piece of music though. Only useful in roulettes when there's an epic round.
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Nice to see some X Japan love. I was holding on to them and Was going to send Art of Life.
That song was a real showcase for Yoshiki, both drums and piano. I think it's too long an introductory song, though, because you have to be patient with the English delivery and the lyrics are really long!
True. A great piece of music though. Only useful in roulettes when there's an epic round.
I sent Endless Rain because of this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ztvMwmPaByg
That song really translates well live. And given the context of that show, being their farewell concert, and knowing that Hide tragically died a few months after, the Last Live version is really just amazing.
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Sent. Signed my death warrant. :rollin
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Sent. Since I've got three good scores already, I'm going to cheat a little bit.
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Surprised at the high score from my song actually. Check Motion and probably even check Fragile Equality first Brent, that's a killer one.
Been getting busy with work so I haven't even thought about what to send next. Will send something in about 24 hours Brent if that's cool.
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Surprised at the high score from my song actually. Check Motion and probably even check Fragile Equality first Brent, that's a killer one.
Been getting busy with work so I haven't even thought about what to send next. Will send something in about 24 hours Brent if that's cool.
That's fine - still 4 or 5 to go.
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Figured there's no rush at it's going at a nice cruisy pace. Will definitely have something in tomorrow night.
Love that Opeth song, great atmosphere. Interesting BG song choice too. I find Chad's submission really weird too. You didn't know Fire Brent?
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You didn't know Fire Brent?
I may have heard it long ago and forgotten it but nah - didn't remember it and certainly don't own it. I think Chad ran with the idea that (as I stated) my collection is weak in classic rock. You name a 60's album - I don't have it :lol
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I don't own a single Hendrix album either. Pretty much on the same wave as you. I appreciate what he's done, but I'll never choose to sit down and put an album on. I don't mind watching him if a live clip comes on tv or something though.
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Hmm.........just stumbled onto a retro classic metal band from an obscure European country that sounds fucking good. Young kids playing stuff that sounds like it's 1985. Into the wolfking roulette playlist :hat
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Hmm.........just stumbled onto a retro classic metal band from an obscure European country that sounds fucking good. Young kids playing stuff that sounds like it's 1985. Into the wolfking roulette playlist :hat
Arrggh, tell me now dammit!! >:(
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Hmm.........just stumbled onto a retro classic metal band from an obscure European country that sounds fucking good. Young kids playing stuff that sounds like it's 1985. Into the wolfking roulette playlist :hat
Are they from Finland?
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Nope.
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Got 9 of 12 songs so far - if we can get everything in across Wednesday then I will aim for results on Monday again. If it's Thursday , then make it Tuesday. I am allowing for anywhere from 6-8 listens to everything which is what I have done thus far.
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Sent yo.
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I'll send tonight good sir!
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I'll send tonight good sir!
It is tonight where Brent is. ;D
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Well I'm not Dr. Emmett Brown.
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I shall send soon.
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Well I'm not Dr. Emmett Brown.
That's heavy, Doc.
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Sent a 90s hit.
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Well I'm not Dr. Emmett Brown.
That's heavy, Doc.
(https://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Doc_6f8b18_131346.jpg)
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Everything is in folks........some interesting entries and tactics :) . We'll aim for results Monday as has been the habit so far.
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I have Lonestar disease.
Edit: Nevermind. I DO remember what I sent. ;D
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I have Lonestar disease.
Edit: Nevermind. I DO remember what I sent. ;D
Oh I'm just like RJ. 5 days in and I forget what I sent. Lol
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I have Lonestar disease.
Edit: Nevermind. I DO remember what I sent. ;D
and you're just toying with everyone and about to bring the pain :lol
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That's why I use a spreadsheet to track everything. Us fogey's have some-timer's disease.
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Check your email Brent
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I have Lonestar disease.
Edit: Nevermind. I DO remember what I sent. ;D
and you're just toying with everyone and about to bring the pain :lol
So far the only one feeling any pain in this roulette is me! :lol
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One listen in and this (to me at least) is likely the most diverse round and is overall quite strong I think. Some of you guys are really pushing me - who knows.......I may surprise you with my ability to take in stuff way outside my comfort zone and then again :lol
A couple of the tracks are going to need room to grow (may or may not) - but on the whole I am impressed at how you are beginning to tailor unfamiliar music to my rather rigid tastes. And that was the idea of this preliminary phase - to give you some space to do just that.
Should have some teaser comments up on the weekend.
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Think outside the cage mate. ;)
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Some of you guys are really pushing me - who knows.......I may surprise you with my ability to take in stuff way outside my comfort zone and then again :lol
I haven't sent growls yet, don't get ahead of yourself man. ;D
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Think outside the cage mate. ;)
:lol
Some of you guys are really pushing me - who knows.......I may surprise you with my ability to take in stuff way outside my comfort zone and then again :lol
I haven't sent growls yet, don't get ahead of yourself man. ;D
Well if you get a strong score again this round then you best not get ahead of yourself by the sounds ;)
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Starting from this round, I am actually just sending you my personal favorites. :lol No more thinking about this.
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I think I put much more thought into these roulettes then I do with shit at work. :lol
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I'll be kind of surprised if I get another high score for my song, because that wasn't my primary intention. :lol
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Evermind - cock blocker extraordinaire. :biggrin:
I am flying through this round - 3 listens in already. At this point I can't see anything getting less than a 7 so :tup
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Starting from this round, I am actually just sending you my personal favorites. :lol No more thinking about this.
That's often the best approach. Us morons who think and try too hard usually outsmart ourselves.
Amirite Kade?
Evermind - cock blocker extraordinaire. :biggrin:
*wonders what band I have to scratch off my possibilities list*
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Evermind - cock blocker extraordinaire. :biggrin:
*wonders what band I have to scratch off my possibilities list*
I bet it wasn't on your list to begin with. I can say it was one of DTF Faves though.
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IQ? Going by what's left in the faves and what you sent me in my roulette. :lol
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Or Steven Wilson.
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Nope, not IQ. Why would I send IQ, to cockblock myself? No one ever sends IQ except RJ and me.
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Nope, not IQ. Why would I send IQ, to cockblock myself? No one ever sends IQ except RJ and me.
I could be mistaken, but I thought Chad had sent them once or twice.
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Nope, not IQ. Why would I send IQ, to cockblock myself? No one ever sends IQ except RJ and me.
Hey I would send IQ…
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Nope, not IQ. Why would I send IQ, to cockblock myself? No one ever sends IQ except RJ and me.
I could be mistaken, but I thought Chad had sent them once or twice.
I have. Quite possible Mason has as well. There are few IQ fans around here.
*has idea for next round*. :biggrin:
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Alright then! Damn, I should've sent IQ. :lol
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I think I put much more thought into these roulettes then I do with shit at work. :lol
:lol
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I think I put much more thought into these roulettes then I do with shit at work. :lol
:lol
Absolutely.
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Starting from this round, I am actually just sending you my personal favorites. :lol No more thinking about this.
That's often the best approach. Us morons who think and try too hard usually outsmart ourselves.
Amirite Kade?
Absolutely. My WASP submission was actually a last minute thought. Spent time looking for something then just thought, "fuck it, I remember Chad doesn't know WASP, so here you go." It's often the best approach for some reason.
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It had to be "I $%#& Like A Beast".
Stroke Chad's ego. :lol
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I am still mucking around with ratings/rankings , but a few teaser comments:
A strong, pacy guitar driven track that I enjoyed more than most $^$%^@ that I have heard. I don’t think the chorus is brilliant but the guitars get this one over the line
I found it quite a pleasant listen ,although I am not sure that there’s enough going on for me to be itching to play it over and over. It would work very well on an album in between tracks to create an atmosphere, which I imagine is how it was employed
The only album in my collection that it reminds me of a bit is Zakk Wylde’s Pride and Glory
the progressive elements were cleverly infused with melody and there were enough regular twists and turns (without meandering proggy stuff) to hold my interest
It’s the sort of music that I would really need to be in the mood for if I was to listen to a full album.
This song doesn’t quite have the vocal or instrumental brilliance to be getting a 10/10 but it’s certainly very strong power metal and there were some little melodic things going on that revealed themselves over multiple listens
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Well, I just hope that one of the positive comments is mine. :lol
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Well, I just hope that one of the positive comments is mine. :lol
Well you know it's not the comment about it working well as an interlude :lol
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Well, I just hope that one of the positive comments is mine. :lol
Well you know it's not the comment about it working well as an interlude :lol
That would be a pretty long interlude. LOL
Am currently listening to the album from which I would get the next entry. Have you made any album purchases the past week? Hahaha
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Just a few :hat If I am thinking what you're thinking it's probably good for you as I didn't like it.
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Just a few :hat If I am thinking what you're thinking it's probably good for you as I didn't like it.
If I am thinking what you are thinking I am thinking, maybe I just enjoyed it because I have the comic books. :lol
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Looks like me spending my time not liking it has saved you a shitty score ;D
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Well, Can't Get Back is pretty good. Punk Mambo, though, is really meh. Hahaha
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It's not all awful but I find most of their albums the same - 2 or 3 very good tracks and lots of meh , which is disappointing as they always seem capable of much more. They have the talent but too often not the songs.
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Yep. I actually bought the album to support the comic book company. I have listened to their other albums and I think they would do better if they just stop doing concept albums. I think that's what's making them write a lot of meh songs.
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Well, I just hope that one of the positive comments is mine. :lol
Well you know it's not the comment about it working well as an interlude :lol
Think that one is mine!
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It’s the sort of music that I would really need to be in the mood for if I was to listen to a full album.
This could be mine, I think.
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This song doesn’t quite have the vocal or instrumental brilliance to be getting a 10/10 but it’s certainly very strong power metal and there were some little melodic things going on that revealed themselves over multiple listens
This could be mine.
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I could be up there... since I cashed in my second bonus point, I'm clearly not anything with vocal comments though.
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A strong, pacy guitar driven track that I enjoyed more than most $^$%^@ that I have heard. I don’t think the chorus is brilliant but the guitars get this one over the line
So not a 6 then? ;D
Any chorus with the line "Lit up like a Christmas Tree" surely cannot be brilliant....unless it's Coz!
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I'm thinking one of two of those comments refers to mine.
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We're running a day ahead of time but results are ready , so rather then pop off to bed :jingleboy: here they are :lol
A really nice spread of stuff in here for Rd 4 . Some bonus points to be had (JJ pops up for his first with an instrumental, as does jingle.fella) and we also have some more DTF faves off the list. Erwin gets a bonus point for Haken and Evermind takes out Anathema just for kicks. Chad and Erwin are now out of bonus points.
After the strong ratings in this round everyone has at least two strong-ish scores, so all it’ll take for those trailing is one more strong round and things will be closer than many are fearing at the end of Round 5. I have provided round by round scores in the Standings so you can all see how everyone is tracking for the culling of the 2 weakest rounds. Everyone is still very much in it at this point -make Round 5 count boys!
1) Black Majesty: Firestorm – wolfking Rating =9.5
I have certainly sampled a few Black Majesty tracks over time but never really felt that they were a cut above the hundreds of other generic power metal bands around the place. Seeing as they are local boys I probably should have given them more of a chance. This song doesn’t quite have the vocal or instrumental brilliance to be getting a 10/10 but it’s certainly very strong power metal and there were some little melodic things going on that revealed themselves over multiple listens. The vocalist getting in a huge scream before the first verse was even over is very :metal and put a smile on my face. In the end I was really enjoying it.........more than I probably should :lol . Having said that there’s not enough in this track for me to tell if they’re capable of setting themselves apart from the crowd over the course of an album or three. If they have some decent variety in their material then I could certainly get into them properly, but if this is just the best of a bunch of similar power metal tracks then I’m not sure. Only one way to find out I suppose.
2) Haken : The Mind’s Eye/Portals/Shapeshifter – erwinrafael Rating: 9 + 1 bonus =10
Well you’re a brave boy Erwin. Haken are in my DTF Fave list because I have sampled a few tracks and never been all that impressed and so you decide to gently try and change my mind with a 3 track “song” that is over 17 minutes in total. Hmm – you wanna re-think that strategy? :lol
The good news is that you have pulled it off to a large extent. The songs do flow well into each other and I can see that they work fairly well as one unit. Across that 17 min journey there were a couple of flat points where my attention waned , and at times I find the vocalist a bit “plain”, but for the vast majority it did what I have been asking for – the progressive elements were almost always infused with melody and there were enough regular twists and turns (without meandering proggy stuff) to hold my interest across a very long listen. Each time it seemed that a proggy section was wearing out its welcome , there was a cut back to something more melodic/catchy before I zoned out ,which is the sort of writing that I like in “prog”.
3) Angelica: Harvest – jjrock88 Rating= 9+1 bonus = 10
Like a couple of instrumentals in this round ,I feel this is more like an intro or interlude rather than a self contained instrumental “song” but I am rating things on how I enjoyed the listen and I quite liked this. It is a bit like a neoclassical thing you might expect on an early Malmsteen album but it is quite melodic in amongst the shred (and I don’t mind shred at all – Lowdz and I kept Shrapnel in business in the early days dontcha know :lol ) with some nice atmospheric keys backing it. How’s the rest of the album JJ ?
4) UFO : Fool’s Gold – TAC Rating = 8.5
I have never been a huge UFO fan – aside from a few classics I just never found them near as ear catching as some of the albums from the various MSG’s. That may be the songs , it might also be the vocals. Phil Mogg is a singer that I have no problem with at all– he is pleasant enough to listen to but I don’t find him a big stand out in any area. So I certainly wouldn’t avoid an album because Mogg is on it – I also wouldn’t go out of my way to find something he is singing on either.
So with this it’s mostly going to come down to the music. The riffs are very straight forward “classic rock” sounding which I don’t mind and Schenker is shredding all over this in a way that he doesn’t always do. A strong, pacy guitar driven track that I enjoyed more than most UFO that I have heard. I don’t think the chorus is brilliant but the guitars get this one over the line. I wavered a lot on the rating for this as the guitar playing is so much better than the other components of the song . 7.5 for the basic song , 9.5 for the guitars...........8.5 for Tim.
5) Sieges Even : Tidal – kingshmegland Rating = 8.5
Another move in the right direction king. This may not quite have the musical highs of Apple Pie or A.C.T. but I felt it was the more consistent song. Your taste is really quite modern – as a fellow fogey I just don’t have it in me to delve too much in that direction but you have chosen well here. It does have that modern vibe at the beginning that can be a turn off to me but it also has a well integrated progressive edge ,nice vocal harmonies and there is basically no “down time” where I zoned out waiting for something catchy .
6) Down : Stone The Crow – Bolsters Rating = 8.5
Kentucky Fried Pantera huh? I don’t mind this – it has quite a unique country rock atmosphere and the main lick is quite the earworm. The only album in my collection that it reminds me of a bit is Zakk Wylde’s Pride and Glory which came a year before. I wonder if there’s some influence there? I am not sure that when Anselmo gets his more agro voice on that it suits the song at all times but for the most part I found it quite enjoyable. It’s no Cemetery Gates but certainly something I find very listenable.
7) Ice Age : Musical Cages – jingle.boy Rating =7.5 + 1 bonus =8.5
I have a vague memory that one of the Killer Z’s (Zook,Zydar) might have used another album of theirs in a roulette at some point? I seem to remember checking out The Great Divide album and being a bit 50/50 on it. Anyway......
I have been known to be rather picky with the guitar instrumental side of things. Having been a guitarist who grew up in the era of the shredders and spending 15 years or so playing/recording on the instrument myself I find it quite easy to visualise what is happening on the instrument, how impressive or otherwise the playing is and so forth. So I can be impressed/pissed off by factors other than just how it sounds with this stuff. :angel:
As I have hinted I tend to prefer a structured instrumental “song” rather than being based on jammy/less structured playing over a basic chord progression. This one leans towards the latter for a fair part of it but then there’s the nice and unexpected keyboard section in the middle. I find the structure of this song rather unusual in that regard and so I found the listen a bit up and down. Two minutes of technical guitar wanking probably isn't the ideal way to open an instrumental song - and it's mostly just open string pull offs which probably sound more impressive than they really are. If that had been kept to 30 -40 seconds rather than almost 2 minutes then my attention would've held much better and the rating may have been a touch higher. Just as an aside the section at 3.40 sounds a bit like Metropolis for a little while.
That's not to say that there weren't strong points. I liked the song a lot better after the initial couple of minutes or so and as a rule the more melodic parts that had the keys backing the guitar were my highlights. Not right up near my favourite instrumentals by any means but a solid listen that with a bonus point adds up to a strong score.
8) Anathema: Lost Control – Evermind Rating = 8.5
Anathema have been a bit like Haken for me . I have sampled a few tracks and they have never struck me as my cuppa tea. This track is quite nice......a slow melancholy song that’s not ambient enough to send me off to sleep and has quite an atmosphere to it. It’s the sort of music that I would really need to be in the mood for if I was to listen to a full album.
9) Kevin Gilbert : Goodness Gracious – Big Hath Rating =8
I am only loosely familiar with Kevin’s music . I have the Giraffe s/t and to be honest I am not sure why I have it as it’s not near my normal taste – probably a “review buy” way back when. I think I also have Toy Matinee somewhere.
Anyway – this has some typically cynical social commentary in the lyrics which works quite well with the music. I don’t normally take much note of lyrics but from what I have heard from him Kevin’s often seem to cut through . It sounds great and the song is quite catchy. I hate to say but I think I prefer the track from the other album that we discussed. With this one I was waiting for another tangent to develop and it never quite did. Good song though.
10) Death: Voice Of The Soul – Lowdz Rating = 8
I wasn’t expecting a track from Death but I can see why this was sent. We have another instrumental here that is a bit of an interlude style track. I can’t say that any of the playing is particularly impressive at a technical level but for a death metal band it’s a bit of a melodic feat. :lol I found it quite a pleasant listen ,although I am not sure that there’s enough going on for me to be itching to play it over and over. It would work very well on an album in between tracks to create an atmosphere, which I imagine is how it was employed. The acoustic strumming reminded me a little of WASP’s Crimson Idol at times – might just be me.
11) Worlds : Little Lens – splent Rating = 8
Another very rare one from splent’s musical connections. I wouldn’t know where to find this album and that’s saying something :lol This is very definitely right at the wimpiest edge of my musical taste . I can’t think of a band to compare it to directly but it’s certainly that lite AOR/westcoast style. The singing isn’t particularly powerful but it’s nice and melodic and he has a very nice range. The rhythms got a little jarring at times which I can only assume is due to programmed drums – I used them on the few solo pieces I recorded so I can’t talk :) Not brilliant but certainly a nice song that I would be happy to have on from time to time.
12) Portishead: Glory Box - Sacul Rating = 7
As soon as I saw “trip hop” under the genre for this I wanted to trip hop as far away as I could. I have no idea what all these genres are about these days but I actually don’t mind this. If someone asked me to describe this I would say a female fronted , smoky jazz club type vibe perhaps? I do struggle with the seriously dawdling pace but on the whole I thought it was quite okay , although not something I would listen to regularly.
Updated Standings: Number of * = number of bonus points used.
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5=37.5*
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+8=35*
Big Hath 9+9+9+8=35*
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+8.5=35*
wolfking 8+8+9.5+9.5=35*
jjrock88 10+7.5+ 7.5+10=35*
erwinrafael 9.5+7+7.5+10=34**
jingle.boy 8.5+7.5+8.5+8.5=33**
Sacul 9+9+7+7=32*
kingshmegland 8+7.5+7+8.5= 31*
TAC 9+6+6.5+8.5= 30*
splent 9+5.5+6.5+8 = 29*
Banned bands
Almah
Anathema
Angelica
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Black Majesty
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Cryonic Temple
Dead End
Death
Down
Haken
Holst
Ice Age
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mark Knopfler
Mystery
Opeth
Pain of Salvation
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queensryche
Riverside
Shineback
Sieges Even
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Blitz
The Sacrificed
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
UFO
X Japan
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Kind of expected a lower score, but I'll take this ;D Will send something with a bit more of energy soon.
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for what it's worth, The Mind's Eye is probably my single least favorite Haken song, not that it's bad or anything :lol
don't care much for Shapeshifter either, at least compared to the rest of their discography, maybe I'm just weird
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Yes, the gambit worked! I think Shapeshifter kind of pulled down the score but these songs really work only if they are together.
Now just one more good entry and I would be back in the game and leave the Japanese gambles behind. :rollin
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I keep thinking I'm going to get lousy scores for some of the songs I've sent and am pleasantly surprised when you like them, Brent. Though it makes me think that the things I'm more confident about are probably going to be utter failures. :lol
and...sent.
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Happy with that score.
Great game of nrl so far. Don't mind too much who wins being an all qld affair. Do hope JT can get the premiership though. Hunt and Macca got me a win in nrl fantasy so would like to see them get it too. Big fans of them. Having another drink and am almost gone now so I'm out hahaha. I know everyone doesn't know what I'm talking about but I've had a few lol. See you tomorrow brothers. Rock on.
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You lost me at "NRL". :D
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You lost me at "NRL". :D
Ditto........sound like I can expect Kade's Round 5 submission in a few days (https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-eatdrink008.gif)
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If Paul's was an instrumental, is he not worthy of a bonus point?
I'll take it, but still struggling to find 'the zone'. Will send shortly.
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If Paul's was an instrumental, is he not worthy of a bonus point?
Paul has already had an instrumental bonus point prior to this round. Only one per person.
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Copy that. Wasn't paying attention.
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As soon as I saw “trip hop” under the genre for this I wanted to trip hop as far away as I could.
:rollin :rollin
Nice to see you liked it, but yeah, I mainly wanted to get Anathema out of competition because I suspected some people here would send it later on.
Will send Round 5 later today tomorrow.
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Nice. I figured you have no modern or minimal modern music so that's what this is all about. Finding new music.
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You lost me at "NRL". :D
Ditto........
Same here.
I'll take the 8.5. You're a tough grader.
And :clap: to Wolfking. While he did win The TAC Roulette, he proved to be one slick motherfucker. How the hell is Black Majesty not banned and how the hell did they get a 9.5?
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You lost me at "NRL". :D
Ditto........
Same here.
I'll take the 8.5. You're a tough grader.
And :clap: to Wolfking. While he did win The TAC Roulette, he proved to be one slick motherfucker. How the hell is Black Majesty not banned and how the hell did they get a 9.5?
All of the above applies to my thoughts. That Black Majesty song was sent in my last roulette, and is a cracker - why the hell didn't I check that band out further?
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Yay not last!!!! :D
Still in last place though :(
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All of the above applies to my thoughts. That Black Majesty song was sent in my last roulette, and is a cracker - why the hell didn't I check that band out further?
I actually have 4 of their albums and I find them fairly regular. I enjoy them and all that, I just wouldn't think they'd be roulette worthy.
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Round 5 sent
I have the debut from Angelica because it has Rob Rock on vocals.
That instrumental was from the second album, I haven't heard it in full. I do have the track on a compilation album and I had also read glowing reviews for the song. I like it, glad you did too.
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Bugger. More bands scratched from my very short list - UFO and sieges even.
I'll take an 8. I like the atmosphere of that track and the album is decent. The vocals ruled out me sending a vocal track, although there are some great riffs and melodies in there.
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Nice to see you liked it, but yeah, I mainly wanted to get Anathema out of competition because I suspected some people here would send it later on.
I had planned Fragile Dreams or Pitiless for future rounds >:(
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Bugger. More bands scratched from my very short list - UFO and sieges even.
I'll take an 8. I like the atmosphere of that track and the album is decent. The vocals ruled out me sending a vocal track, although there are some great riffs and melodies in there.
Maybe Sieges Even 2.0 is available?
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Bugger. More bands scratched from my very short list - UFO and sieges even.
I'll take an 8. I like the atmosphere of that track and the album is decent. The vocals ruled out me sending a vocal track, although there are some great riffs and melodies in there.
Maybe Sieges Even 2.0 is available?
Nope. I PM'ed him on it.
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I'm going with Black Majesty 2.0!
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Took a gamble with epic 1970s classic rock from my first "favorite" band. :metal
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5 of 12 in for Round 5 so far........
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You lost me at "NRL". :D
Ditto........
Same here.
I'll take the 8.5. You're a tough grader.
And :clap: to Wolfking. While he did win The TAC Roulette, he proved to be one slick motherfucker. How the hell is Black Majesty not banned and how the hell did they get a 9.5?
All of the above applies to my thoughts. That Black Majesty song was sent in my last roulette, and is a cracker - why the hell didn't I check that band out further?
Thanks boys. I thought it was quite a safe option, but enough of a cracker to get a decent score. Looks like it worked out well.
Brent, I've been out as you probably figured from my last post. I need to have a think and will get something to you either soon, or in the morning.
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Brent, I've been down and out as you probably figured from my last post. I need to have a think and will get something to you either soon, or in the morning.
fix'd?
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Good thing you're around Chad. Wasn't that bad though. :lol
Listening to the new Trivium so will send in the morning Brent.
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Sorry Brent, you will definitely have a song from me in 12 hours time.
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Sorry Brent, you will definitely have a song from me in 12 hours time.
I thought you were a slick mofo ? ;D
I currently only have 6 of 12 so any time today is fine. I will start listening on early Wednesday arvo (Tues night US ) - I figure 72 hrs since last results is enough time for submissions.
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Sorry Brent, you will definitely have a song from me in 12 hours time.
I thought you were a slick mofo ? ;D
I currently only have 6 of 12 so any time today is fine. I will start listening on early Wednesday arvo (Tues night US ) - I figure 72 hrs since last results is enough time for submissions.
That was the people talking, not me. ;D
Gotta try and dig into some more stuff now. Gonna be tough towards the end of this thing.
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Gotta try and dig into some more stuff now. Gonna be tough towards the end of this thing.
pppffftt. Lightweight. Want me to find a song for ya? :lol You wouldn't want it anyway, I'm doing shit. Then again, it's only a 5-way tie for 2nd place! Couple big scores brings me right back into it.
Prolly not gonna happen tho.
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Sent.
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Gotta try and dig into some more stuff now. Gonna be tough towards the end of this thing.
pppffftt. Lightweight. Want me to find a song for ya? :lol
Nah, save it for mine matey!
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I think I made a wrong gamble. Grrr...
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Shit, just got home and it's almost lights out for me but gotta send something. Arghhh, what to send.......
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SENT!
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10 of 12 in now and listening in 12 hours time.
You couple of stragglers.............
(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/50272987.jpg) ;D
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I will get it in tonight. Mondays are my busiest days
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Sent this morning.
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Sent!!
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Sent!
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Thanks guys..........all in and listening. Expect results on the weekend.
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I managed a couple of listens today and initial impressions at this point are that it's a round with a lot of scores in the 7-8 range with an overall range of 6.5 -9.
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I managed a couple of listens today and initial impressions at this point are that it's a round with a lot of scores in the 7-8 range with an overall range of 6.5 -9.
Should keep rankings quite close then.
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I just hope what I sent scored better than Endless Rain. :lol
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Stab in the dark guess at the score of my song: 7
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Lol I bet mine is 6.5
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I don't care what my rating is because it'll be dropped anyway.
By the way, I sent Steven Wilson. :lol
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Hope it's something from his last album - in was thinking of sending 3 Years Older later, but looks like you've cockblocked me. Again :lol
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I don't care what my rating is because it'll be dropped anyway.
:psychosane:
Don't get too cocky there.
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I'll guess middle of the pack for me.
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By the way, I sent Steven Wilson. :lol
You got balls.
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It's weekend! (Well, at least in our part of the world) :lol
I have something pop lined up next. LOL
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Still Thursday in Argentina wtf.
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I don't care what my rating is because it'll be dropped anyway.
Exactly. I took a pretty big risk this round just because I could.
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Just turned Friday afternoon here in Aus.
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Still expect results some time over the weekend. Having no power from 8am - 2.45pm today has stuffed me up with a few things but should still get there. Will try and get some teasers up tonight
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What happened to your power down there?
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What happened to your power down there?
We cop it here a few times a year - scheduled outages for maintenance . Really stuffs your day ,not to mention food etc....in some cases.
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Oh yeah, they blow. At least they give you warnings, well I hope they did.
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Ok.........almost 1am and I'm stoofed in more ways than one but I'll get a few quick teasers up before I nod off.
Many of the issues I have with songs here seem to relate to either the vocalist or songs that wear out their welcome with sections that persist long past my short attention span :D
"I’m not normally a big fan of $%#^&*& but his voice suits the vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality"
"On the whole it’s a rather unusual combination of distorted modern sounds , nice clean moments/melodies and a bluesy groove"
" It started off sounding a bit too much like elevator music with some of those effects but once the song found its groove I quite liked it"
"I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a ??/10"
" It has some decent vocal melodies in the chorus although a lot of the lead vocals in the verses ain’t really my style – he sounds like one of the guys with squeaky voices out of the OTT glam metal bands from the 80’s like Shotgun Messiah ."
"Cut it to around the six minute mark and it would’ve rated a point higher."
" For me the song is nice enough until it pretty much grinds to a halt at the 4 minute mark. "
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"I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a ??/10"
I guess this is mine, unless someone else sent a ballad.
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I don't care what my rating is because it'll be dropped anyway.
Exactly. I took a pretty big risk this round just because I could.
yeah, that. I think I see my comment.
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" For me the song is nice enough until it pretty much grinds to a halt at the 4 minute mark. "
Looks like this is mine. Hahaha. It does come back to life after two minutes.
Oh well, should have sent ____ ____ as I originally planned. :lol
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I know which one is mine.
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"I’m not normally a big fan of $%#^&*& but his voice suits the vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality"
This is probably mine, but those:
"It started off sounding a bit too much like elevator music with some of those effects but once the song found its groove I quite liked it"
"I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a ??/10
Could possibly be mine too I guess. I'm not sure it's a "commercial" ballad, but it's definitely a ballad.
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Not seeing my song in any of those.
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Not seeing my song in any of those.
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Only one description of the above might fit mine - and it ain't the elevator music. That's one fucked up elevator if it is. If I'm right, I'll take it.
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" It has some decent vocal melodies in the chorus although a lot of the lead vocals in the verses ain’t really my style – he sounds like one of the guys with squeaky voices out of the OTT glam metal bands from the 80’s like Shotgun Messiah ."
Definitely mine!
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I'm pretty sure the elevator music one is mine :lol
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Fuck, can't for the life of me remember what the hell I sent. :lol Gonna have to check my emails.
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Fuck, can't for the life of me remember what the hell I sent. :lol Gonna have to check my emails.
They call that pulling a Lonestar!
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"I’m not normally a big fan of $%#^&*& but his voice suits the vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality"
Got it.
I think this could be mine. Well, I hope.
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"I’m not normally a big fan of $%#^&*& but his voice suits the vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality"
Got it.
I think this could be mine. Well, I hope.
Oh, now that I think of it, it could be mine too!
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"I’m not normally a big fan of $%#^&*& but his voice suits the vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality"
Got it.
I think this could be mine. Well, I hope.
Oh, now that I think of it, it could be mine too!
(https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/cce818891e697386353f28c59c1e1472/11090%20-%20Raw%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20sunglasses%20the_rock%20wwf.gif)
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I'm having deja vu all over again!
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I'm having deja vu all over again!
Well you asked for it bub haha.
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I'm having deja vu all over again!
Well you asked for it bub haha.
(https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/cce818891e697386353f28c59c1e1472/11090%20-%20Raw%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20sunglasses%20the_rock%20wwf.gif)
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Now I'm having deja vu all over again!
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Now I'm having deja vu all over again!
Well, you asked for it bub haha.
Public Service Announcement:
Oh, and if anyone is having a roulette with a low page count, Wolfking and I will happily spam it up for you!
(https://kokkieh.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/11-spam-03.jpg)
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I'm having veja du. The feeling that none of this has ever happened before.
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I'm having veja du. The feeling that none of this has ever happened before.
(https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/cce818891e697386353f28c59c1e1472/11090%20-%20Raw%20autoplay_gif%20gif%20sunglasses%20the_rock%20wwf.gif)
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I think we should stop this now haha! It's a healthy boost for our own post counts though just quietly. ;D
EDIT: That spam fella looks quite tasty BTW.
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I'm having veja du. The feeling that none of this has ever happened before.
(https://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27256848.jpg)
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That was a weird conversation. But I liked it
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"I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a ??/10
Could possibly be mine too I guess. I'm not sure it's a "commercial" ballad, but it's definitely a ballad.
You sent Steven Wilson, right? I'd say the comment is mine, my ballad definitely has a more commercial sound than anything I've heard from him.
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(https://cdn.meme.am/instances/64162373.jpg)
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The spoon doesn't exist.
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"I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a ??/10
Could possibly be mine too I guess. I'm not sure it's a "commercial" ballad, but it's definitely a ballad.
You sent Steven Wilson, right? I'd say the comment is mine, my ballad definitely has a more commercial sound than anything I've heard from him.
Yeah, my ballad isn't commercial at all.
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Another very diverse round guys. There’s been a bit of a 1970’s intervention from a few of you and it has met with a mixed response from me , but then you know that I often don’t respond all that well to what the 70’s have to offer in many cases and therefore it should not be a big surprise. I know there is plenty of 70’s out there that I will like , but it’s a bit like a needle in a haystack for me , so I appreciate your efforts there.
1) The Mob : One Track Mind –wolfking Rating = 9
I need to decide how many bonus points to award you for the first Winger related song , but for now you you can have a 9. :neverusethis: I definitely checked out this album at the time it was released and I obviously didn’t like too many of the samples or I would have it. But we’re rating individual songs here and , similar to the Black Majesty , you have chosen a good song from a group that I likely won’t enjoy as much across the whole collection of songs. I will revisit the album though.
I’m not normally a big fan of Pinnick but his voice suits the poppy vocal melodies here and his unique tone adds some originality. Beach plays well as usual and the tougher rhythm on the guitar outro elevated the rating a half point beyond what I was thinking up to that point.
2) Big Wreck: I Digress – kingshmegland Rating= 9
More modern sounding stuff king........you’re really trying to drag me kicking and screaming out of the 80’s (and current music that sounds like the 80’s) aren’t you ? :lol I think you’re beginning to get the hang of the sort of catchy ,yet proggy rhythms that I enjoy. You’ve learned to live with my short attention span and are now submitting music that is busier with the melodies and rhythms.
I really enjoy the opening guitar riff – in my previous life as a guitarist of some repute (j/k) I used to really enjoy that style of groove. I don’t know if you hear it king but I detect plenty of Aerosmith influence in there. On the whole it’s a rather unusual combination of distorted modern sounds , nice clean moments/melodies and a bluesy groove....but it’s a combination that had me tapping the old foot. Nice guitar outro too .
On the whole – fresh enough to be interesting and familiar enough not to jar.
3) Pablo Cruise: Whatcha Gonna Do –splent Rating= 8.5
Once again mate you are pushing the musical limits of my wimpiness :lol This song reminds me of a cross between The Doobie Brothers and The Little River Band (LRB) which is the sort of vibe you were targeting I imagine,given my love for The Doobies. It started off sounding a bit too much like elevator music with some of those effects but once the song found its groove I quite liked it. Some nice guitar work in there too and the most successful of the 70's interventions.
Is this song fairly representative of their catalogue ?
4) Skid Row : Into Another – jjrock88 Rating = 8.5
This is a nice track JJ ,but you can tell they’re on the way out. Everything , incl Baz’s voice is just that bit weaker than on their two classic albums. Being a big fan I really should’ve given Subhuman Race a go and made up my own mind but I was so pissed with the whole scene around this time that when I got the mail about the album and it’s direction I thought “I just don’t wanna know”.
5) Pandora’s Box : It Just Won’t Quit – Bolsters Rating = 8
I’ve never taken the time to really get into Meat Loaf but even I can recognise a Jim Steinman production. Just the backing vocals are enough to give it away. This sounds like Heart meets Meat Loaf and that’s not a bad thing. It’s definitely more poppy than my usual taste but it’s a nice ballad with a very strong female vocal performance. Aside from sounding a bit like generic Steinman ,I really can’t fault this as a commercial ballad , but there’s not enough wow factor there to go beyond a 8/10.
6) My Soliloquy : Ascension Pending – TAC Rating =8
I really didn’t like this at all on first listen (understatement) but as I got into repeat listens I began to get into it a bit more. You did express some doubt as to whether I could get past the vocals and that was an issue for me....on first listen I enjoyed the opening melody/rhythm and then his voice hit me like a freight train and brought things to a grinding halt. He has that weak , high pitched sound like the guy from Final Frontier/Saga (Rob Moratti) – I often struggle with that guy singing rock ,let alone prog metal. So there was that. I didn’t think the music was anything much good originally but over time the melodies began to gain a lot more traction and I actually grew to tolerate the vocals more. This score is a big upgrade from my initial listen.....grower.
7) Nazareth: Razamanaz – jingle.boy Rating = 7.5
I know you disagree Chad but personally I would take Hair Of The Dog over this. I suppose this is good time , bluesy rock and roll with the relatively basic production and guitar playing that I associate with many artists from the era. There are a number of exceptions to that of course -this just isn’t one of them for me. It has some decent vocal melodies in the chorus although a lot of the lead vocals in the verses ain’t really my style – he sounds like one of the guys with squeaky voices out of the OTT glam metal bands from the 80’s like Tigertailz or Shotgun Messiah .
It’s pretty damn heavy for 1973 I imagine , but I wouldn’t know would I ? :lol As far as 70’s stuff goes for me 7.5 is a strong mark :)
8) Orphaned Land: All Is One – Sacul Rating = 7.5
I have no issue with the Middle Eastern vibe that bands like this create – it adds an element of originality. I found the guitar riff/sound a bit too one dimensional and also the production a bit too much the “wall of sound” . I thought the instrumental part from 3 mins onwards was the highlight , but that same riff was pretty much constant throughout and I was searching for a bit of variety. This style does have some potential with me and this song had a couple of great elements to it . I just wasn’t blown away by the end result....
9) Steve Wilson : Happy Returns – Evermind Rating = 7.5
There were a number of things I really liked about this song , but also one main issue that stopped it from really impressing. Nice piano intro and obviously some well written lyrics about something or other :lol (I really don’t tend to take much notice of lyrics in most cases) which is all fine. I wouldn’t say his voice is anything special but it’s pleasant enough.
One thing I often don’t like in my music is lengthy sections of vocalising melodies with “too-doo-doo-lada-ladum” and “la-da-da-de-dum” ........it gets on my nerves after a very short while and this song is full of it. The melodies around 3.25 are very simple but very nice with the string backing – it really took the song to another level and I do like my “levels” within songs. But then we go back into the “too-doo-doo” etc.....which makes me wonder whether this is Steve Wilson or Cat Stevens Wilson. A simple but effective guitar outro was really nice too. Just a shame that the one little thing interfered with my enjoyment of the song. I have heard enough here though to suggest that I may like some his other stuff.
10) Mandroid Echostar: Kingdom and the Crown – Lowdz Rating= 7.5
As soon as I heard the opening here it reminded me of a noisy Shrapnel production ,so I can see why you like it haha. As the song went on it reminded me of another band that I can’t put my finger on ( a heavier Thank You Scientist without the jazz?) but it has that alternative metal vibe that I’m generally not a big fan of. In the end I found this a bit too busy ,with not enough time allowed for anything to develop that really grabs my ear. Still.......a solid song and a solid score.
11) Yanni: Acroyali/Standing In Motion (live) – Big Hath Rating = 7.5
And here I was thinking that Yanni was some sort of Greek version of Julio Iglesias.....shows you how much notice I take of this style of music. :lol This is a nice sounding live recording and it certainly has some decent melodies in there along with some dramatic elements that could well work in a soundtrack. After one of the more dramatic moments (which I really like) at around 5.20 - 6 mins I wasn’t expecting it to get all bright and happy towards the end again but maybe that’s just me. I was getting a bit tired of it by the end. I would have preferred it to stay in that dramatic vein- so without the “happy ending”, so to speak :lol Cut it to around the six minute mark and it possibly would’ve rated a point higher.
12) Queen : The Prophet’s Song – erwinrafael Rating =6.5
Another 70’s intervention here and I must admit I struggled with this. I love Mercury and May in the right song and have generally found that Queen have a lot of music that I like and a lot of music that I don’t......hence why they have been a bit of a Greatest Hits band for me. I am no doubt missing some songs from them that I would love , but just never got around to exploring their catalogue properly. Songs like Bohemian Rhapsody , Tie Your Mother Down and The Show Must Go On are highlights for me , so I suppose I tend to prefer songs that rock a bit either with the guitars and/or a belting vocal performance.
I had a look around the Queen forums and it seems that this song and Bohemian are pretty much even Stevens in a head to head challenge amongst diehard fans, but for me they are not even in the same ballpark.
There is nothing wrong with the vocal quality here of course – it’s Freddie – but the song itself was about 4 minutes too long for me. As some have already found out , I don’t like music that stays still for too long – whether that be meandering proggy rhythms or in this case endless acapella vocals , “la,la,la “ vocalising melodies with weird panning effects on ‘em. For me the song is nice enough until it pretty much grinds to a halt at the 4 minute mark. Prior to that I liked it enough to maybe give a 7.5-8 , but by the 5 minute mark I was over it. The guitars coming out of this section at 6 mins are really cool but by then it’s too late for me.
STANDINGS
I have updated the standings as before in the list below. And then below the banned artists I have listed the new scores post the Round 5 cull of everybody’s lowest two scores which I have labelled as END OF PRELIM FINAL STANDINGS which you will now carry into Round 6.
Updated Standings: Number of * = number of bonus points used.
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+7.5=45*
wolfking 8+8+9.5+9.5+9=44*
jjrock88 10+7.5+ 7.5+10+8.5=43.5*
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+8.5+8=43*
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+8+7.5=42.5*
Big Hath 9+9+9+8+7.5=42.5*
erwinrafael 9.5+7+7.5+10+6.5=40.5**
jingle.boy 8.5+7.5+8.5+8.5+7.5=40.5**
kingshmegland 8+7.5+7+8.5+9= 40*
Sacul 9+9+7+7 +7.5=39.5*
TAC 9+6+6.5+8.5+8= 38*
splent 9+5.5+6.5+8 +8.5 = 37.5*
Banned bands
Almah
Anathema
Angelica
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Big Wreck
Black Majesty
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Cryonic Temple
Dead End
Death
Down
Haken
Holst
Ice Age
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
My Soliloquy
Mystery
Nazareth
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Riverside
Shineback
Sieges Even
Skid Row
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Blitz
The Mob
The Sacrificed
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
UFO
X Japan
Yanni
END OF PRELIM FINAL STANDINGS
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9 = 29
jjrock88 10+10+8.5 = 28.5
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9 = 28
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9 = 27
Big Hath 9+9+9 = 27
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 =27
Bolsters 9+9+8.5=26.5
splent 9+8+8.5= 25.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5 = 25.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 = 25.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5 = 25.5
TAC 9+8.5+8 = 25.5
Needless to say that some have benefitted more than others from the ability to drop some shocker scores here, but I think the “prelim” idea has worked well and it’s clear that everyone is still in the game and hopefully feeling a bit more informed as to my tastes . Only 3.5 pts (down from 7.5) now separates the pack with 5 rounds to go until we say "Goodnight" to the bottom six. No more hand holding from here though – any horror rounds will be yours to keep :lol
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A bit better than expected - you should check that album anyways, because the song I sent you is one of the weakest there.
Wondering what to send now :P
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i gave some Mandroid Echostar a listen a while ago and dug it hardcore even on one spin
you're probably comparing them to Protest the Hero because they have a fairly similar sound :lol
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My Soliloquy and The Mob are both excellent, worthy of the scores.
You're a horrible person for that Queen score.
And Nazareth of course. :lol I was definitely not pegging that description as the one that fit Razamanaz.
Sending momentarily.
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I was definitely not pegging that description as the one that fit Razamanaz.
Didn't think you would but I'm sure I could find some Shotgun Messiah to put beside Razamanaz and you would see what I mean. Nothing to do with the music ,just the vocal tone. I love the Shotgun Messiah too btw but it's in spite of the vocals :lol (all about the guitars)
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splent 9+8+8.5= 25.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5 = 25.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 = 25.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5 = 25.5
TAC 9+8.5+8 = 25.5
Couldn't think of a better bunch of guys to be in last place with! :D
Why am I listed last though? :lol
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Couldn't think of a better bunch of guys to be in last place with! :D
Was thinking the same thing.
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splent 9+8+8.5= 25.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5 = 25.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 = 25.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5 = 25.5
TAC 9+8.5+8 = 25.5
Couldn't think of a better bunch of guys to be in last place with! :D
Why am I listed last though? :lol
It was alphabetical aside from splent who was getting a bit depressed about being last ,so I thought I would give him a boost :lol
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Should have stuck with It's Late, my original choice. Anyway, onwards to the next round!
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splent 9+8+8.5= 25.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5 = 25.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 = 25.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5 = 25.5
TAC 9+8.5+8 = 25.5
Couldn't think of a better bunch of guys to be in last place with! :D
Why am I listed last though? :lol
It was alphabetical aside from splent who was getting a bit depressed about being last ,so I thought I would give him a boost :lol
That's OK. I can take it! You're welcome Splent! :lol
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Sent my next entry. Amazing drums!
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Really surprised at getting an 8 for that song. You're more of a softie than I thought you were Brent. :biggrin:
Next round sent. Very confident this time, which probably means I'm going to crash and burn.
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You're a horrible person for that Queen score.
I think I would make this my sig once this roulette is over. :rollin
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Hell yeah. Moved up to second too, nice. Will probably send something tomorrow Brent.
Not much submitted there that I know from that round.
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Hell yeah. Moved up to second too, nice.
The real rankings are at the end of Brent's post, which means you're third with 28.
Alright, will send something today or tomorrow. Now that every score matters, I'll probably start failing hilariuosly and get 6 or lower in every round. :lol
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Hell yeah, moved up to third too, nice.
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Hell yeah. Moved up to second too, nice. Will probably send something tomorrow Brent.
Not much submitted there that I know from that round.
That's the cool thing. Now you get to check out new bands.
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Hell yeah. Moved up to second too, nice. Will probably send something tomorrow Brent.
Not much submitted there that I know from that round.
That's the cool thing. Now you get to check out new bands.
Nah, doing my roulette in a few months so, I'm holding back from pretty much everything. :lol
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I love finding new music. That's what roulettes are all about
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Will send later today
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Hell yeah, moved up to third too, nice.
:lol
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Now to find another modern 80's style song again. :lol
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Dodged a bit of a bullet with orphaned land - had them saved up for later. I like the album it came from as they ditched the growls (except for one song). I'm a sucker for that eastern sound in my metal though.
I like the mandroid echostar ep, not heard anything else by them. A bit modern sounding, I agree.
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Yessss. I'm back in yh game!!!
I have an idea of what to send next but I'm not sure if you have heard of them. I'll send it and then send you an alternative if so.
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splent 9+8+8.5= 25.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5 = 25.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 = 25.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5 = 25.5
TAC 9+8.5+8 = 25.5
Yah. Thanks man. Way to put all my personal feelings out there.
Wait this is the Internet. Everyone know everything.
Couldn't think of a better bunch of guys to be in last place with! :D
Why am I listed last though? :lol
It was alphabetical aside from splent who was getting a bit depressed about being last ,so I thought I would give him a boost :lol
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Hell yeah, moved up to third too, nice.
:lol
:lol
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song sent
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6 of 12 in so far .........will expect to begin listening on Wednesday morning our time at the latest (Tues night US) unless you guys get them in quicker.
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Still can't get over how I bungled that Queen entry. Grrrr
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Sent a nice little ballad.
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6 of 12 in so far .........will expect to begin listening on Wednesday morning our time at the latest (Tues night US) unless you guys get them in quicker.
Will send mine about 9 tonight mate.
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:impatient: :lol
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:impatient: :lol
Cut me some slack bro, it's 9:05pm. :lol Oh, you geezers are probably on daylight savings time now hey?
Give me half an hour.
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Haha...........I forgot you mob are an hour behind the rest of us now. How does it feel to be behind Adelaide ? :lol At least your curtains won't fade I suppose .
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Alright mate, check your inbox so you can quit your bitchin. ;D
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As long as the song is bitchin' we're cool ;D
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As long as the song is bitchin' we're cool ;D
Well I think it's bitchin', just need you to agree. Okey dokey.
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Sent. Hopefully anyway as I haven't cleared this one previously.
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:impatient: :lol
:soon:
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Sent. Might be a low score for this one, might be a high one, but it's one of my favourite tracks from this year anyway.
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Might be a low score for this one, might be a high one,
Wow, that's prophetic! :lol
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Might be a low score for this one, might be a high one,
Wow, that's prophetic! :lol
I took a page from one Russian football commentator's book, who recently nailed the deepest aspects of football theory and analytics concluding his speech with saying that "football matches can end with different scores" and then went silent for like a minute, letting us ponder that statement. :lol
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Sent!!
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Working on some re-submissions with Mr Lowdz and Mr Evermind :biggrin: .
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Alright, I re-sent. Might be a low score for this one, might be a high one. :lol
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King..............I sent an email just to check on something re bonus points to see if you want to change yours or not.
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Resent. Hopefully.
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All in now ,so will start listening with results due on the weekend at the latest. Could be by Friday seeing as I'm starting a little earlier than the deadline.
King - you're expecting a bonus point for something that isn't going to get one (already had a DTF Fave point) so I will accept something else today (your time) if you wish to change it.
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I forgot. Just go with the song. No problem.
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Done............full speed ahead then :metal
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After one listen guys I don't see any huge changes in standings after this mostly solid but unspectacular round. We might see one or two move in/out of the Top 6 but the top to bottom range isn't likely to move much, if at all.
The base scores (without any bonus points) are likely to be within a 1.5 pt range across the 12 songs at this stage. Still plenty of listening to happen but that's very initial impressions.
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So in a boxing analogy, this is the round where the fighters are just throwing jabs. Hehehe
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I might be launching the Costanza strategy sooner than expected.
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I might be launching the Costanza strategy sooner than expected.
The opposite?
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Very confident this time, which probably means I'm going to crash and burn.
Knew it. :lol
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I might be launching the Costanza strategy sooner than expected.
The opposite?
If every instinct I have is wrong, then the opposite must be right.
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I might be launching the Costanza strategy sooner than expected.
The opposite?
If every instinct I have is wrong, then the opposite must be right.
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Chad isn't going upstairs for coffee
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I'm running well ahead of time with this..........4 listens in and only think I need another one or two ,so I might even make it for Thursday ..................worst case Friday now.
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Banging those songs out!
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Come on, I am dying to send you a song from a classic prog band. :P
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Actually after two re-sends I've chosen the song I'm not too confident in. My next few songs choices will depend on this result I guess.
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I am thinking maybe that 1.5 pt range I talked about might be about to increase to 2pts (with the extra half point to the upside) , so there's been 3 or 4 growers. So it might be a little more interesting than I first thought with the effect this round has on the standings.
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You think you'll get the results out this morning (for you)? Or tonight?
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You think you'll get the results out this morning (for you)? Or tonight?
Tim's saying in the nicest way, "I WANT RESULTS!" :lol
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I can't 100% promise as I am managing a dozen dunderhead tradies here as we get a house ready for sale (patience being sorely tested and time is limited) - so unlikely during the day but I expect most likely tonight my time (Thurs morning US) rather than the weekend as initially predicted..
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I can't 100% promise as I am managing a dozen dunderhead tradies here as we get a house ready for sale (patience being sorely tested and time is limited)
Brent, are you actually that bozo Scott Cam?
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I can't 100% promise as I am managing a dozen dunderhead tradies here as we get a house ready for sale (patience being sorely tested and time is limited)
Brent, are you actually that bozo Scott Cam?
Not the last time I checked. Does he call his fellow tradies "dunderheads" does he? I can't squeeze quality TV like The Block into my busy schedule :lol
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I don't know, what you said just reminded me of that fucking pile of shit show. Fuck TV is bad these days.
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Just back from my boy's school concert (forgot about that one :angel: ) - still though ............I am going to power on and use my healthy cuisine I have here in my office to fire me up on through until midnight with some listening. At that point I may choose to post the write ups ,or I may choose to use the jingle.boy template - "Results are all ready to go but I'm off to bed" ;D
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As I am sure you guys are aware the Diet Coke offsets the calories from the donuts. ;)
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I definitely prefer Coke Zero to Diet Coke. Tastes MUCH better!
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I definitely prefer Coke Zero to Diet Coke. Tastes MUCH better!
I drink both ...................when I get sick of one I switch to the other :D And when I get sick of both of them , some Pepsi Max. It's my one vice that crap (all of em)
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come up with your own mind-fuck ideas! :biggrin:
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I definitely prefer Coke Zero to Diet Coke. Tastes MUCH better!
Tim knows what the fuck is up.
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Diet is nasty
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Diet is nasty
It's tolerable, and I'll drink it if I need something sweet just so I don't consume calories, but zero is where it's at.
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DietSoda is nasty
Fix'd
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We call it soft drink in Ozzie land.
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Yeah, so do we. I referenced it for my southern counterparts. Canadians shorten soda pop to 'pop'; Americans (for the most part) use 'soda'.
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I always though 'pop' was stupid, just my opinion.
Soda's good though. Everyone can agree on soda, it's bubbly and refreshing. I know some people don't care for soda though.
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I drank Coke like there was no tomorrow as a kid. Only once in a while now.
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I remember going to Canada as a kid to play hockey and thought it was funny that the kids called it pop. I used to stay with a family, and then a kid from their team would stay with us.
When I was younger I drank Coke Classic constantly. When I was diagnosed diabetic, I quit cold turkey and didn't touch a soda, even diet, for like two years. But I do drink soda. Love washing down lunch with it.
Coke Zero>Pepsi Max.
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It's pop, not soda
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I got through the ratings in record time this round and so didn't bother with the teaser quotes.
There really wasn’t anything that blew me away this round ,but there also wasn’t anything I really struggled with either. The first 3 or 4 tracks ended up being growers and I moved up a few ratings from 8.5 to 9 ,but on my last couple of listens I moved most of them back down :P
1) Haven: Deliver Me – jjrock88 Rating= 9
You certainly like your Tate sound alikes JJ – this guy sounds like he’s trying to channel a mix of Tate , Elvis and Plant. :lol He does a good job but isn’t quite strong enough to absolutely nail it. I can’t say too much more about this – it’s very strong melodic metal with good performances all round. I feel that the next few songs that got 8.5’s had higher highs but also had some flat points and therefore came out a bit worse off overall.
2) The Black Mages: Maybe I’m A Lion – Bolsters Rating= 8.5 + 1 bonus = 9.5
I have zero interest or time for computer games and so I really only know of The Black Mages by reputation and the odd sample I have checked out. I’m pretty certain that this is one of the better tracks of theirs that I have heard. I wouldn’t say that the musicianship is quite as stellar as most of the instrumental stuff in my collection but it certainly had me tapping the foot. It seems pretty clear that they had Deep Purple in mind here and that’s not a bad thing. Like many of the instrumentals received in the roulette this is more like a rhythm based backing track/structured jam with a solo rather than a more complex instrumental “song” with lots of lead guitar melody , but all the same I enjoyed it. I initially had this rated as a 9 but over time it felt a bit less like a tribute to Deep Purple and more of a rip-off in parts.....the midsection is basically Burn with a few changes.
3)Need: Lifeknot – Evermind Rating=8.5
This song has a sort of progressive modern metal vibe to it that took a little while to connect to but once it did I quite liked it. The main riff (once things speed up) is simple but effective , there are plenty of textures in the song and that’s often a plus for me. Each time I thought the song was beginning to drift there was something fairly catchy shortly around the bend and that’s the key to good prog for me. Short attention span and all. There is certainly a huge mish mash of influences going on here –outside of their own unique vibe I hear everything from touches of DT, thrash,Pantera, Fates Warning (mostly the vocal) to a whiff of Alice In Chains. It all comes together pretty well though and , although I wasn’t rapt in all of it (the chorus is a bit of a grungy plodder) ,overall I thought it was a good effort. It’s hard to go much above 8.5 for a song where the chorus is my least favourite part .
4) Chaos Frame : Giant Killer – TAC Rating=8.5
This is a bit like Evermind’s song in that it is a bit all over the place in terms of pacing/structure , even allowing for its progressive nature . Like Chad I loved the pre-chorus/chorus – the jumpy rhythm briefly brings Fates Warning to mind – but overall I felt that the various parts of this song didn’t come together in a way that was quite as cohesive as Evermind’s. The instrumental mid section was quite cool though and on the whole I liked the song. Plenty of highs but also a few sections,particularly in the verses, that weren’t quite at the same level and dragged down the score a little. I didn’t feel it was far enough below Evermind’s to take you down to 8 , so it’s 8.5 for you too.
5) Evil Masquerade: Black Ravens Cry –wolfking Rating= 8.5
I can see why you like this Kade – nice melodic chorus (which really carries the song) and the riffs/ verses/solos have a bit of a Dio/Sabbath/Rainbow touch in there. As we’ve discussed I have checked out plenty of their stuff and never been particularly impressed and so ,once again ,you have picked a song I quite like from a band that I don’t rate all that highly on the whole. Good work. The main riff is a bit of a plodder which I don’t mind, seeing as the chorus gives the song the lift it needs. The chorus really carries this song actually. The solo section is typical classic rock/metal style ,something which Flyman tends to like infusing his music with , but did plod a bit and take some of the life out of the song for me. I rated this relatively low to start but it grew on me with repeated listens.
6) Amorphis: Silver Bride – Big Hath Rating= 8.5
Based on what I have read about Amorphis (and your helpful intro) I think they might be one of those bands that have different eras and even material within albums that make it very hard for someone like me (who doesn’t like growls) to get a read on them without sampling a whole swag of material. A good compilation band for me perhaps. And this is one of the reasons why I came up with the “DTF Fave” idea in the first place – so you guys could make a much more informed selection of tracks than I would have done through random sampling.
There were some growls under the outro chorus but not enough to really impact the song adversely. The song itself is quite catchy in a modern power metal sorta way ,although the main riff (while catchy) is rather generic power metal fare. The solo section was pleasant enough but could’ve done with a touch of shred or a more substantial resolution. Overall it was an enjoyable listen .
7) Marketa Irglova: Time Immemorial – Sacul Rating= 8.5
Well this makes splent’s submission seem like death metal. As you said in the thread this is a “nice ballad” . I have basically no female singer/songwriter stuff like this in my collection to compare it to , but I found it quite a soothing ballad that would be very pleasant listening when I am in the mood for something laid back. That’s not very often I must admit but still........maybe I will surprise you here with my rating again but this is very easy to listen to with some nice melodies and rated accordingly.
8) WarMAchine: Eternally – jingle.boy Rating= 8
Luckily for you nobody sent Taylor Swift :lol This is fairly predictable melodic rock (the old “basic chord progression with changing base note” trick) with some very obvious Harem Scarem influence – even forgetting the involvement of the Hessmeister himself on backing vox. It actually reminds me a bit of another Canadian band (Emerald Rain) with a similarly inferior vocalist (vs Harry) who used to enjoy ripping off Harem Scarem .
The verses are pretty repetitive , the chorus is decent and the solo section is good too. All good , but nothing really stands out to me compared to anything else in the genre. Having said that it was a nice enough listen and rated as such,.
9) Mr Mister: Uniform Of Youth – splent Rating= 8
Well now you’re getting heavier mate haha.................Mr Mister. This song comes from the same album as the famous Kyrie and Broken Wings ,so it’s quality. This sort of pop rock isn’t my normal cuppa tea but I do like Richard Page’s voice and he does a pretty good job of combining the lite keyboard heavy AOR sound with some decent guitar/bass work and in the end it’s very easy to listen to. I didn’t find this song quite as catchy as some of their other songs but it’s quality pop rock.
10) U.K.- Caesar’s Palace Blues – erwinrafael Rating=7
You can tell from the moment that this starts that the drumming is going to be a large part of the attraction of the song. I have of course heard of Bozzio but never really had a dedicated listen to his drumming. The song itself is just okay and rather repetitive in terms of the limited vocal sections......it is obviously intended more as an excuse for the instruments to do their stuff. The keys and violins were well integrated into the song but the tone of those instruments at times was very harsh and a bit like nails on a chalkboard. I know it’s live but still............
I found it hard to separate my liking for the unusual instrumentation and the drumming from the fairly token vocal sections and the grating tone of the instruments at times.
11)Neal Morse Band: The Grand Experiment – kingshmegland Rating= 7
There have always been elements of Morse’s music that I have liked – obviously MP does a good job where he’s involved and there are some other strong musical moments. But I must admit I have always found the songs of his that I have sampled a bit too “fluffy” and that’s the case with plenty of “pomp” music – some of the stuff by Styx has the same effect on me . I don’t know how else to put it but , aside from some of the solo guitar work, they lack any sort of edge from the material I have heard and sound a bit too much like the world’s most kick ass church band to me :lol
This is a nice enough song........it’s all very “pleasant” and there were some cool moments but on the whole I think I might have made the right move by just buying the guitarists solo album. I can’t say that I find Morse’s voice strong enough to elevate the song either.
12)Sebastien: The Walls of Lyman Alpha – Lowdz Rating = 7
As you know I have already heard this and , to be honest, I was a bit disappointed with the album as a whole. I think it’s serviceable , pretty generic power metal with the obligatory anthemic chorus and a “wall of sound” production . The intro to the solo section sounded promising but I struggled to find anything special about the song or the album really. In the OP I listed a 7.5 rating as meaning a solid song that I would be happy enough to have on semi-regular rotation and for me this song is a tad below that mark. Not terrible by any means but not doing much for me either.
Before the standings I will do a little summary of bonus points available from here and we’ll just cross them off as used:
DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
splent
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
TAC
Big Hath
wolfking
kingshmegland
Sacul
Evermind
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
STANDINGS
Still very much anyone’s game – the range has blown out a touch but not too much has changed aside from a decent move by Mr Bolsters thanks to a strong entry with bonus point.
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5 = 37.5
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9 = 37.5
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5= 36.5
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5=36
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5 = 35.5
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5 = 34.5
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 +7=34
Sacul 9+9+7.5+8.5 = 34
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5 =34
splent 9+8+8.5+8= 33.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 = 33.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 +7.5= 33
Banned bands
Almah
Amorphis
Anathema
Angelica
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Big Wreck
Black Majesty
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Chaos Frame
Cryonic Temple
Dead End
Death
Down
Evil Masquerade
Haken
Haven
Holst
Ice Age
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Mr Mister
My Soliloquy
Mystery
Nazareth
Need
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Riverside
Sebastien
Shineback
Sieges Even
Skid Row
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Black Mages
The Blitz
The Mob
The Neal Morse Band
The Sacrificed
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
UFO
U.K.
Warmachine
X Japan
Yanni
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Damn, there goes Amorphis off my list. WarMachine is one I should check out, or on second thoughts, perhaps not. Tight round.
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Next round will be sent momentarily.
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Still in last place huh? Costanza time.
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Still in last place huh? Costanza time.
Duran Duran, or Animotion?
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Still in last place huh? Costanza time.
Duran Duran, or Animotion?
Not quite THAT level of Costanza. :lol
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Still in last place huh? Costanza time.
Duran Duran, or Animotion?
Not quite THAT level of Costanza. :lol
Yeah well I'm in last now. :lol
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Hell yeah :hat
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In my defense, I have sent you have your stuff, you've just heard it already! :lol
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DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
splent
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
TAC
Big Hath
wolfking
kingshmegland
Sacul
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
Do I still have to send songs or what? :lol
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will send later
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DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
splent
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
TAC
Big Hath
wolfking
kingshmegland
Sacul
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
Do I still have to send songs or what? :lol
Thank god I'm not the only one that fuck's up their update posts!
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Well that wasn't great...
I was worried when I read your email...
Change of tack (not TAC) needed I think.
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I might start sending you nothing but ballads from now on :P
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No clue for me at the moment. I think the good stuff has pretty much dried up.
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No clue for me at the moment. I think the good stuff has pretty much dried up.
I know you have a reputation to uphold :metal and all , but some of the others have been doing okay with some fairly poppy stuff. Just a thought .
I said something regarding melodic rock in the OP along the lines of "if there's any genre where I have almost heard it all............" and there is an element of that I think in the ratings. It's quite possible for me to be more impressed by a pop tune or ballad that is fresh and interesting to me than an average track from an area that I am fairly well versed in. Don't get me wrong though - if there is amazing metal I don't have I want it yesterday :lol
Anyway................your judgement has served you well to this point after a shaky start, so trust your gut and go for/exclude whatever you think . Maybe your gut is right about the quality of the songs you are considering and you need to think outside the square. Just sayin' - no need to stick to metal if you are worried about running out of quality. I have surprised a few people with strong ratings in genres that aren't my normal cuppa tea.
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Don't mess with my head dude. :lol
No seriously, I have definitely thought about moving away from the metal thing. I would love to send you some killer AOR but as you said, you've almost heard it all, and finding quality in what you haven't heard is a challenge. I think that's why I've stuck with the metal, cause it just seems to be easier to nail something decent down.
I'll have a good look tonight and send something tonight.
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I know you have a reputation to uphold :metal and all , but some of the others have been doing okay with some fairly poppy stuff. Just a thought .
I have surprised a few people with strong ratings in genres that aren't my normal cuppa tea.
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song sent!
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It's quite possible for me to be more impressed by a pop tune or ballad that is fresh and interesting
I have surprised a few people with strong ratings in genres that aren't my normal cuppa tea.
Taylor Swift it is next round. :biggrin:
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Taylor Swift it is next round. :biggrin:
I look forward to it .......writing the review that is :xbones
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Usual half way update..........6 tracks in ,6 to go. Let's see if we can be ready to rock'n'roll by the end of the weekend. :metal
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Sent.
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I have like 3 ideas... I'll try to get it down to one and then send tonight (and the one I'm leaning towards you probably know... again... :lol)
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Sent. AOR baby .
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Will send this evening, in ~4-5 hours.
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Sent... urg.
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Sent an instrumental.
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Onya guys............I have 11 of 12 and will start listening Sunday.
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I'm the one. I'll send today.
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No worries king. This is looking like a very interesting round. We have another 70's shot that's a bit different , a couple of AOR tracks, instrumentals, a DTF fave , prog rock ,prog metal, neo prog , a bit of classic metal ,some power metal. Very diverse.
I even have a 96kbps mp3 among them...........didn't even know you could go that low :P
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I even have a 96kbps mp3 among them
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No worries king. This is looking like a very interesting round. We have another 70's shot that's a bit different , a couple of AOR tracks, instrumentals, a DTF fave , prog rock ,prog metal, neo prog , a bit of classic metal ,some power metal. Very diverse.
I even have a 96kbps mp3 among them...........didn't even know you could go that low :P
:blush Hope it's not mine. I know which of the above classifications is mine.
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No worries Chad.............you're zipping along at 128 :lol
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No worries Chad.............you're zipping along at 128 :lol
Life in the slow lane baby!
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up to now I don't know what AOR means. :lol
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70's,AOR , prog rock ,prog metal, neo prog , classic metal ,power metal.
When did this turn into the Notepad Roulette?
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Send me something from that useless Rick Altzi and you'll get a 1/10 for that sort of Debris :biggrin: And if Helloween doesn't fit into any of those categories I don't wanna know about them.
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Send me something from that useless Rick Altzi and you'll get a 1/10 for that sort of Debris :biggrin: And if Helloween doesn't fit into any of those categories I don't wanna know about them.
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Sent!
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Send me something from that useless Rick Altzi and you'll get a 1/10 for that sort of Debris :biggrin: And if Helloween doesn't fit into any of those categories I don't wanna know about them.
That actually made me laugh out loud. :lol
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I hope the 96k wasn't mine. I don't think it was... Although tbh I had to download it because my actual MP3 is on my other hard drive, and my connector is broken
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OK Brent, before you start, I changed my song, same artist, different song.
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up to now I don't know what AOR means. :lol
Any Old Rubbish....
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No worries Chad.............you're zipping along at 128 :lol
I had to buy mine off iTunes so I hope those low ass quality mp3s aren't mine :biggrin:
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Send me something from that useless Rick Altzi and you'll get a 1/10 for that sort of Debris :biggrin: And if Helloween doesn't fit into any of those categories I don't wanna know about them.
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Your Highness..........get one of your staff to check your email for you ;)
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Son of a
Hold on.
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Resent
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I didn't get much listening in yesterday - too busy busting my ass getting a house ready for sale. Things should slack off a bit for a day or two and then it's going to get crazy again , so I will aim to beat the rush and have results up Thursday .
Could be a broader range of scores this time around. There will be a 9 for sure and there could be a 6 depending on how a track or two grow on me.
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Got through 2-3 listens of everything today and beating my deadline again I think............expect results Wednesday. If I think of it I'll get some teasers up later tonight.
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A few samples:
" The first thing that came to mind when I heard some of the melodies in this was Stratovarius’ album Nemesis"
"As I neared the end of the song I was thinking an ? would be about right but the outro guitars snagged you an extra half point."
"There’s some catchy rhythms here and there , some decent melodies but the sound lacks any real punch and as a whole I didn’t think the song came together into a cohesive track."
" If the nice solo/interlude in the middle had gone on for a while longer it could’ve taken the song to another level but alas it did not"
"in between the instrumental sections the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO."
"The first thing that came to mind for me at the start of this was a “dramatic” moment in a really, really bad 70’s or 80’s action movie :lol "
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Again, I can't for the life of me remember what I sent. :facepalm:
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Seems like a mostly dud round. I can guess which of the above is mine, and it ain't pretty. Costanza approach failed.
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Again, I can't for the life of me remember what I sent. :facepalm:
Anyone ever tell you that you suck at paying attention...................to your own submissions? :lol Between my roulette and Chad's ...........we have issues with reading OP's , remembering how many rounds and knowing what we sent (or where our Sent folder is) . There seems to be some sort of attention deficit/memory loss disease going around here. Some have old age as an excuse but not you Kade ;D
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Again, I can't for the life of me remember what I sent. :facepalm:
Anyone ever tell you that you suck at paying attention...................to your own submissions? :lol Between my roulette and Chad's ...........we have issues with reading OP's , remembering how many rounds and knowing what we sent (or where our Sent folder is) . There seems to be some sort of attention deficit/memory loss disease going around here. Some have old age as an excuse but not you Kade ;D
Or it could be that he just doesn't care.
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He's doing alright though , so it works :lol
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Come on, I'm 31, I can't get a little slack?
Anyway, I'm always pretty elusive and lack paying attention to detail in general. I get found out at work quite a lot for the same sort of shit. It's not just you guys. :lol
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Again, I can't for the life of me remember what I sent. :facepalm:
Anyone ever tell you that you suck at paying attention...................to your own submissions? :lol Between my roulette and Chad's ...........we have issues with reading OP's , remembering how many rounds and knowing what we sent (or where our Sent folder is) . There seems to be some sort of attention deficit/memory loss disease going around here. Some have old age as an excuse but not you Kade ;D
Or it could be that he just doesn't care.
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:rollin :rollin
Fucking love that gif. Was gonna say I only pay attention to the important stuff but wanted to be nice. ;D
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I'll give you the inside running.................there's gonna be a lot of questions in your roulette :neverusethis:
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Wait, so you're just automatically assuming you'll be a participant then?
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Nup - just gonna post questions
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I got nothing else, but I ain't even mad, and I still can't fucking remember what the hell I sent you.
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That gif makes everything better - cracking me up.
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Seems like a mostly dud round. I can guess which of the above is mine, and it ain't pretty. Costanza approach failed.
A comparison to Nemesis sounds like praise to me, so they aren't all bad. Is yours the bad action movie one then? :lol
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"There’s some catchy rhythms here and there , some decent melodies but the sound lacks any real punch and as a whole I didn’t think the song came together into a cohesive track."
" If the nice solo/interlude in the middle had gone on for a while longer it could’ve taken the song to another level but alas it did not"
"in between the instrumental sections the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO."
I went to my emails and reminded what I sent, and I have a bad feeling any one of these could be mine.
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"There’s some catchy rhythms here and there , some decent melodies but the sound lacks any real punch and as a whole I didn’t think the song came together into a cohesive track."
" If the nice solo/interlude in the middle had gone on for a while longer it could’ve taken the song to another level but alas it did not"
"in between the instrumental sections the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO."
I went to my emails and reminded what I sent, and I have a bad feeling any one of these could be mine.
I didn't have to go to my emails, but otherwise ... ditto.
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"in between the instrumental sections the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO."
This appears to be mine. Another low score then.
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Looks like there are multiple participants fighting for the shit comments. :lol
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If I am optimistic, this comment is mine.
"As I neared the end of the song I was thinking an ? would be about right but the outro guitars snagged you an extra half point."
Would rather lower my expectations and expect the shit comment.
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Looks like there are multiple participants fighting for the shit comments. :lol
Add me to the group. :lol
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Working on some more "shit comments" right now to meet demand .
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Working on some more "shit comments" right now to meet demand .
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"The first thing that came to mind for me at the start of this was a “dramatic” moment in a really, really bad 70’s or 80’s action movie :lol "
I'm going to guess this one is mine :lol
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"There’s some catchy rhythms here and there , some decent melodies but the sound lacks any real punch and as a whole I didn’t think the song came together into a cohesive track."
" If the nice solo/interlude in the middle had gone on for a while longer it could’ve taken the song to another level but alas it did not"
"in between the instrumental sections the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO."
I went to my emails and reminded what I sent, and I have a bad feeling any one of these could be mine.
I didn't have to go to my emails, but otherwise ... ditto.
Seriously, these three could be mine too. :lol
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Bottom quote could be mine. I l;istened to the track yesterday and thought wtf did I send this for? :lol
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Every time I see "it could be mine" I wanna go "but you're way out of li eeeee ine "
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Just had a re-listen of my song, and while there is a nice solo/interlude, I don't think Brent would consider it being taken "to another level"... I suspect (for his tastes), it was already on pretty low level - like the most rocking church music ever. ;) :lol
Maybe he'll surprise me though - this song has a bit of 'punch' in it (imo), and I don't think it's a 'plodder' by any stretch.
Then again... TASTES!!!
Bottom quote could be mine. I l;istened to the track yesterday and thought wtf did I send this for? :lol
I thought that about mine before I even sent it. :lol
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So things are really tightening up with the scores now - thanks in part to some well timed use of bonus points. Aside from my favourite track I didn’t get much in the way of metal that I really liked this round, which saw a fair amount of lighter rock up the top end. The tracks I had lined up for a possible 6 did grow on me a bit and so the range of scores wasn't quite as big as I initially thought.
1) Damnation Angels: Pride (The Warrior’s Way) – Bolsters Rating :9.5
I recall sampling songs from this album and thinking it (and Pellek’s vocals) were a bit too “fluffy” in the power metal stakes , but this song is sure heavy enough for me. I really enjoyed the follow up album too as you know. The first thing that came to mind when I heard some of the melodies in this was Stratovarius’ album Nemesis. According to the “jingly book of plagiarism” I heard Nemesis first and therefore , even though Nemesis came after , Strato were ripped off big time :lol
When the violins started around 3.30 it felt like the end wasn’t all that far away and I wondered how this was going to make it to almost 10 mins but in the end the song exploded out of the calm interlude and the time was filled out nicely with some rockin’ metal and nice “battle hymn” style melodies. The outro dragged on a bit longer that it needed to but that’s nitpicking. When it comes down to it this type of power metal probably isn’t my favourite style of metal to listen to all day but for what it is it’s a great track.
2) Seven Tears : Reflections – wolfking Rating: 9
Good stuff Kade.......a good reminder here of your AOR cred ,although of course you still like Work of Art a bit too much :lol This is the first artist of the roulette so far where I listen to it and am surprised that I haven’t heard of them...........so brownie points there. They seem to be filed away under prog metal in various circles , but I feel it’s really not that heavy. Anyway – strong melodic song , if a little generic in parts . The vocals are strong without being brilliant but it’s the jumpy rhythm guitar and a nice solo that gives the song a bit of an edge than it otherwise might not have had. If the whole album is just variations on this then it would probably get old fairly quick but I will check the album out. They remind me very much of another band which I might save up for your roulette if you like these guys.
3) Yes : Lift Me Up – erwinrafael Rating: 9
The gang vocals that fill this song are quite nice and remind me of any number of pop rock bands on the radio in the late 80’s.......the sort of sound we Aussies heard on albums by John Farnham, Southern Sons, Daryl Braithwaite, 1927 etc..... I am assuming that this is a later version of the Rabin Beverley Hills 90210 lineup (or close) and on the whole I thought it was nice enough pop rock with a much bigger sound than I associate with Yes. As I neared the end of the song I was thinking an 8.5 would be about right but the outro guitars snagged you an extra half point. I get the impression that whenever I find the time to properly get into the Yes discog that the Rabin era will appeal to me more.
4) Myland : Anytime – Lowdz Rating: 8.5
I was aware of this one and I am guessing that at the time it came out I wrote off the vocalist. I have mentioned that I can struggle with “squeaky” vocalists like Rob Moratti (and Pete Morten) and this guy sounds like a cross between Moratti and Hugo.......so it’s testing my boundaries. I have been racking my brain for who the music sounds like and I think it may be Departure. Anyway – this sort of AOR with reasonably heavy guitars and strong soloing used to be my bread and butter and I haven’t listened to much of this style of late. So even though it’s a touch generic it sounded fresher than it might have 10 years ago and I quite enjoyed it . The vocals were probably the difference between an 8.5 and a 9........ I am not sure why they left the duff vocal note in there at 5.06 either? This is probably the first time I have heard those tap slides on the guitar since Richie Sambora in his prime or Van Halen’s Dreams. Nice stuff haha.
5) Vicious Rumors: Dreaming – jjrock88 Rating:8.5
I was a pretty big fan of the early Carl Albert fronted albums and so I am not sure why I don’t have this , the last album before his tragic death. This isn’t quite as strong as the best songs from those albums but I still enjoyed the track. As happens on some of their other stuff the rhythm guitar sound is a bit of a muffled mess but the rest sounds great. It was great to hear Albert’s voice on something “new” – he’s great in a ballad too. The solo section could’ve been better if I wanted to be picky.
6) Al DiMeola : Race With Devil On Spanish Highway – Big Hath Rating : 8.5+1 bonus = 9.5
The first thing that came to mind for me at the start of this was a “dramatic” moment in a really, really bad 70’s or 80’s action movie :lol From there it went into a more traditional prog sound . As a general rule I don’t like 70’s prog (or much else from the 70’s) but the production and playing on this is a bit ahead of its time , like my all time No 1 album (Van Halen 1) . One thing I often struggle with in 70’s music (with some notable exceptions) is the relatively primitive guitar playing , but none of that here. In the end the only reason this didn’t score higher is the lack of an earworm lead melody but there were some cool rhythms and playing in there,. I do tend to prefer my instrumentals a little more structured/less “loose” but I did enjoy this.
7) Spock’s Beard: Day For Night – jingle.boy Rating:8.5
This was a brave submission right after I bagged Neal Morse and his pompy brand of church music :lol . It was also brave sending Hendrix earlier ,so I appreciate you trying to push me a little. I should say right off the bat that I don’t find Morse’s voice anything special – “pleasant” is probably the best word – but in this style I am not so fussed as long as he can carry the music and he can. This is at the lighter end of my taste and at this level of heaviness/musicianship I would tend to grab some Toto instead to be honest . Having said that – relative to the Morse solo track in the last round there’s a bit more of an edge to the melodies + the rhythm guitars here and hearing that bass out front helped as well. Nice serene interlude in the middle with acoustic guitar and strings. The guitar solo was a bit underwhelming – better effort there and it might have been pushing for a 9 but I have settled on 8.5.
8) The Hsu-Nami : Rising Of The Sun - Sacul Rating: 8.5+1 = 9.5
I did hear of this band on DTF quite some time ago (jammindude??) and did check out a song on bandcamp if memory serves correct. I did mean to check them out further but never got around to it. The first part of this song has some quirky rhythms with the strings etc..... and as it progresses it becomes quite catchy. In fact many of the parts of this song feel like they shouldn’t work together but they do. An enjoyable listen Sacul , but I have my doubts about my ability to listen to a full album in this style.
9)Holy Shire: Winter Is Coming – Evermind Rating: 8.5
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I see “holy shite” every time I look at that band name :lol I can’t say that I have a great strike rate with liking “folk metal” but the folky aspect here is just a whiff , it’s not overdone and there’s some nice elements to the song. The underlying melody is nice ,if a little repetitive. Although I liked this it’s not anywhere near my favourite metal tracks with female or male/female vocals and so I struggled to get too far above 8. If the nice solo/interlude in the middle had gone on for a while longer it could’ve taken the song to another level but alas it did not. If I was involved in this song it also would’ve faded out at around 5 mins.......the extra minute really didn’t add to it IMHO.
10)Coheed and Cambria: 21-13 - splent Rating 7 + 1 bonus =8.
The start of this song had me dreading the next 10 minutes but this turned into one of those odd songs where I like parts of it and really dislike others. On the whole I found the song left me a bit flat. There’s some catchy rhythms here and there (where it rocked up a bit @ 1.20 , 2.30 etc..) , some decent melodies but the sound lacks any real punch and as a whole I didn’t think the song came together into a cohesive track. And that made almost 10 mins a pretty rough listen. Normally when I struggle with a 10 min song like this it would attract a 6 , but this has enough good stuff in it to snag a 7.
Not that 7 is an awful score but don’t let this rating scare you from sending me progressive stuff – a third of my DTF Top 50 was prog metal . I am just not a huge fan of the prog that C&C dish up it seems. I also had a quick listen to the other song of theirs that you sent (before subbing in this one)and it would’ve rated around 7.5 . I get the impression that Coheed and Cambria will have a few songs I like , but that they will be few and far between.
11) Odd Dimension: Light Speed Journey – TAC Rating: 7.5
Like your Rd 5 submission (My Soliloquy) I really didn’t think much of this at all on first listen , but it did grow , just not quite as much. It’s pretty basic prog metal really. My favourite parts were actually the (long) instrumental intro and midsection interlude (nice drumming too) – in between those the song just plodded along , the chorus was pretty flat and the vocals in general were pretty average IMHO. And that album cover looks very familiar , so I am pretty certain I checked this one out properly and don’t have it for a reason.
When I don’t quite get a band like this I tend to have a little look around at some reviews to see if I’m all alone in my opinions. As it turns out there seem to be two camps on this one – some people seem to think that these guys are the second coming of DT and others (a couple of the big metal review sites) rated it 5/10 and 6/10. I would tend to go with the latter group I think (esp. first impressions) , although it’s not all that bad and my rating reflects that.
12) The Pineapple Thief: 3000 Days – kingshmegland Rating: 7
This is the sort of music that I might expect to be punished with if I stole a pineapple...............yeah, I can see that. :lol Just kidding . As a rule this sort of alternative pop rock vibe doesn’t really grab me , but then again there’s nothing hugely wrong with it and so I’m finding it hard to criticise it outside of the general “vibe”. There’s some melody in there, it’s a smooth listen but the distortion/ heaviness of the guitars in the almost grungy intro and later riff seem almost out of place relative to the rest , especially the “gentle” vocals. I certainly didn’t dislike the song king but it also didn’t really grab me I am afraid.
Before the standings I will do a little summary of bonus points available from here and we’ll just cross them off as used:
DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
TAC
wolfking
kingshmegland
Evermind
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
splent
Big Hath
Sacul
STANDINGS
I think if we allow for potential bonus points , I can still say that everyone is in with a chance at Top Six. It does look like the Top 5 might almost be there unless someone drops a real turd. So it might be 7 fighting over that 6th place , with Sacul, then Lowdz/erwin currently best placed. It’s getting very crowded at the top all of a sudden too.
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9+8.5 = 46
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+8.5 = 46
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5+9= 45.5
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5+9.5=45.5
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5+9.5 = 45
Sacul 9+9+7.5+8.5 +9.5= 43.5
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5+8.5 = 43
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 +7+9=43
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5= 42
splent 9+8+8.5+8+8= 41.5
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5 =41.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 +7.5+7= 40
Banned bands
Al Di Meola
Almah
Amorphis
Anathema
Angelica
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Big Wreck
Black Majesty
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Chaos Frame
Coheed and Cambria
Cryonic Temple
Damnation Angels
Dead End
Death
Down
Evil Masquerade
Haken
Haven
Holst
Holy Shite
Ice Age
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Mr Mister
My Soliloquy
Myland
Mystery
Nazareth
Need
Odd Dimension
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Riverside
Sebastien
Seven tears
Shineback
Sieges Even
Spock’s Beard
Skid Row
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Black Mages
The Blitz
The Mob
The Neal Morse Band
The Pineapple Thief
The Sacrificed
The Hsu Nami
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
UFO
U.K.
Vicious Rumors
Warmachine
X Japan
Yanni
Yes
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21:13 is a weeeeird choice for Coheed, what the heck
especially since it's one of the weakest on In Keeping Secrets and I usually just ignore it :lol
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Round 8 submission incoming.
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Happy with that. Will send my song tonight.
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Oh my. I got a good score but everybody's upping their game!
Brent, you should check out Yes' Endless Dream. Definitely the highlight of the Rabin-era Yes. Although given that you are not easily impressed with 15-minute songs, maybe it would not appeal to you. :lol
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so yeah, Di Meola's first four or five albums are a treasure trove of 70s studio techniques/sounds (maybe not his first one quite as much, it's slightly more raw). But my goodness the man shreds.
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The funny thing is, he rips like a mofo but looks like the total opposite of a shredder, funny stuff.
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I'm happy with 8.5, was expecting less. I think the ending is the best part though.
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Hell yeah :metal
And don't worry about listening to a complete album like that - their two records are fairly short, less than 40 mins, and very fun to listen. Heck, their debut even has a cover of the Godfather's theme in that style :lol
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Sent something from Titanic.
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Celine Dion is banned - I have everything she has recorded. TAC recommended her to me at the same time as Blondie and I've been loving it :metal
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I guess Chad had better cross It's All Coming Back To Me Now off of his list, then.
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Celine Dion is banned - I have everything she has recorded. TAC recommended her to me at the same time as Blondie and I've been loving it :metal
Celine Dion is gold compared to Mariah Carey. :lol
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Damn, I had Spocks Beard for the next round. Was going to go with At The Ebd Of The Day...
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Round 8 sent.
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Will send later today
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I'm still in it. Not in last place. Yay.
I have an idea for the next song, just gotta decide.
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I guess Chad had better cross It's All Coming Back To Me Now off of his list, then.
Nah.... River Deep, Mountain High is my guilty pleasure.
Haven't read all the writeups yet, but I'm raging over the acceptance of Damnation Angels - you had posted The Valiant Fire in the 'what album are you listening to' thread earlier this year! Given they only have 2 albums, it was logical to conclude you knew them well enough to 'ban' them. Killer tune though.
Still sticking with the Costanza approach - I'm pleasantly surprised that the SB tune didn't get any of those shit comments. :biggrin:
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I guess I'll stay away from anything not rocking Brent. :lol
I'm still trying to open your mind to the new you son of a :biggrin:
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I guess I'll stay away from anything not rocking Brent. :lol
Sorry mate. :lol You only have to look at the light-ish melodic rock/prog rock that got good scores this round to know that's not necessary. Some of my all time favourite tracks are ballads . Despite the standings (and don't forget you're averaging an 8 with the scores on the board) you have done well pushing me out of my comfort zone. I think though when it comes to "alternative/modern" (which is already a stretch) then it's probably safer that they rock than be "poppy".
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Damn, I had Spocks Beard for the next round. Was going to go with At The Ebd Of The Day...
That would be the natural choice, but I went with something a little shorter and more accessible (to Brent). Wasn't sure if Brent would have the patience for At The End of the Day as his introduction to the Beard.
Will send later tonight. Busy listening to my roulette tunes at the moment. Think I know what I'm sending, but I could call an audible on myself.
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I guess I'll stay away from anything not rocking Brent. :lol
Sorry mate. :lol You only have to look at the light-ish melodic rock/prog rock that got good scores this round to know that's not necessary. Some of my all time favourite tracks are ballads . Despite the standings (and don't forget you're averaging an 8 with the scores on the board) you have done well pushing me out of my comfort zone. I think though when it comes to "alternative/modern" (which is already a stretch) then it's probably safer that they rock than be "poppy".
It's all good. I'll send you some 90's music and watch your brain explode. :lol
Seriously, I do have a band from the 90's that are not anything like the 90's at all that are one of my favorite bands. Not proggy at all. I'll narrow down which song to send.
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Haven't read all the writeups yet, but I'm raging over the acceptance of Damnation Angels - you had posted The Valiant Fire in the 'what album are you listening to' thread earlier this year! Given they only have 2 albums, it was logical to conclude you knew them well enough to 'ban' them. Killer tune though.
I was surprised it wasn't banned myself, when I sent my list of bands to Brent and he said he only had The Valiant Fire. So I figured I might as well take advantage of the situation. :lol I didn't remember him posting about The Valiant Fire in the Album thread though.
Still raging that I didn't think to ask about Primal Fear.
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Since I have nothing to lose, I'm going to send a song I've revisited majorly in the last few days... Unlike anything I've sent yet. If you love it, awesome. If you don't, oh well. I have nothing to lose, I just want to be in last place, but I have a feeling you might like it .
And, I might change my mind before I send it :Lol
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Brent, would it be alright if I send a song in ~30 hours from now on? I'm on a bit hectic schedule now, I want to relisten to a few songs to make a choice and there's no way in hell I can do that today.
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round 8 sent
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Brent, would it be alright if I send a song in ~30 hours from now on? I'm on a bit hectic schedule now, I want to relisten to a few songs to make a choice and there's no way in hell I can do that today.
That's fine.........will respond to your PM shortly too.
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6 of 12 tracks received. No rush as the next couple of days are going to be nuts for me , but i would like to start listening properly by the weekend if possible.
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I have ran out of metal songs. Oh my...
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I have ran out of metal songs. Oh my...
That would only be a REAL problem in jj's roulette.
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Yeah, if that was JJ, just forfeit, you're wasting your time haha.
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JJ asked me to post this for you erwin
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haha
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:lol
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I've got an amazing folky instrumental and a great shred-fest instrumental. I'm pretty sure no one ever sent these artists in any roulette, too. I wish there was a tag-team option.
Sending soon.
Edit: sent!
And also thinking about it, damn I've got some really awesome songs for the Finals if I make it there.
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send the folky one, evermind
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send the folky one, evermind
I've sent a shred-fest! :lol
I bet you would've enjoyed the folky one though.
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send me the folky one then :lol
i'm between roulette rounds i have plenty of time to listen to it
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send me the folky one then :lol
i'm between roulette rounds i have plenty of time to listen to it
Here you go, check your PM. Don't spoil the track to anyone though, I might still use it later.
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i'm in no roulettes and you're not in mine so i dunno how i'd go about spoiling it :P
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send me the folky one then :lol
i'm between roulette rounds i have plenty of time to listen to it
Here you go, check your PM. Don't spoil the track to anyone though, I might still use it later.
Hope you'll send it in my v2 ;)
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I'll send my in tonight or tomorrow
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JJ asked me to post this for you erwin
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It's not that I lack heavy metal. It's that I only spend on good heavy metal, most of which you already have. I do not spend money on shitty heavy metal. :lol
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What one person calls shitty heavy metal, another might call brilliant heavy metal.
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What one person calls shitty heavy metal, another might call brilliant heavy metal.
I think this roulette is a proof of that. :lol
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What one person calls shitty heavy metal, another might call brilliant heavy metal.
I think this roulette is a proof of that. :lol
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Yes congratulations..........bonus point for everyone except erwin ;D
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Yay! :D
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Yes congratulations..........bonus point for everyone except erwin ;D
Could I get that bonus point if I impress you with church band music? :lol
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Are you implying that I should revise down my Neal Morse ratings? :biggrin:
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I expect to start listening tomorrow evening - just under 24 hrs from now. We still have 5 songs outstanding - make 'em 5 outstanding songs ;D
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6 of 12 tracks received.
We still have 5 songs outstanding
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Sent!
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I'll send it when I get home from work. I am about 90% sure of what song I want to send.
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Sent
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Sent
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I'm through one listen.................still waiting on two of you . If I get through the second listen without a song - one of you will be allocated Rebecca Black's "Friday" and the other will get "Saturday"
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Who! Who has not submitted!?
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Kramer didn't send his song?
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Oops.
Sent.
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:rollin
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Apparently there's a reason I couldn't remember what I sent. I can't even blame it on Lonestar Syndrome.
:blush
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Apparently there's a reason I couldn't remember what I sent. I can't even blame it on Lonestar Syndrome.
:blush
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I am going to try and get through this round fairly quick - partly due to it taking most of the week to get submissions in but also because I am struggling for time (packing/selling a house as we do this). I will still get at least 4 listens in before posting results. Hopefully results up no later than Monday night (Monday morning US)
Some initial thoughts:
"This is quite a nice track – somewhere along the lines of Night Ranger meets Foreigner "
"I hear plenty of Judas Priest in this ( esp the pre-chorus and chorus) and I like it for the same reasons"
"in the end this sounds a bit more like a technical exercise to me than a “song” ."
" I hear a band that (if they toned down the arty elements) are capable of producing music that I would love and would be well outside my comfort zone"
"In the end I found that the simple chugging riffs and the average vocals didn’t quite live up to the symphonic and lead guitar elements"
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the third comment there is the kind of song that makes me so miserable :lol
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Erwin asked me a question a while back about how strict I will be on the 20 minute limit for the "EP" in the finals..........for those of you that are planning ahead.
I will allow a minimum of 18 minutes and a maximum of 25 minutes ,as long as your final song doesn't begin after the 20 min mark.
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Erwin asked me a question a while back about how strict I will be on the 20 minute limit for the "EP" in the finals..........for those of you that are planning ahead.
I will allow a minimum of 18 minutes and a maximum of 25 minutes ,as long as your final song doesn't begin after the 20 min mark.
Cool, I was going to ask that same question once we got closer to the end. Nice knowing I can go up to 25, that'll make reducing my EP down from 80 minutes a lot easier. :lol
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Two of those comments could be mine.
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Low end rating this round is likely to be a 7 unless I grow tired of one of the weaker tracks..........high end there is some chance of a 10/10 for only the second time in the roulette.
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Third comment is probably mine, but hey, I knew I was taking a risk.
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Mine could be the Judas Priest comment, or it could even be the last comment I guess, but I wouldn't think so.
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in a weird twist, every comment is actually about my song
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Mine could be the Judas Priest comment, or it could even be the last comment I guess, but I wouldn't think so.
Lol that's what I thought about mine :lol
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None of those sound like mine.
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Last comment is mine. Looks like I would not reach the finals.
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Erwin asked me a question a while back about how strict I will be on the 20 minute limit for the "EP" in the finals..........for those of you that are planning ahead.
I am not. :sadpanda:
None of those sound like mine.
Ditto.
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Maybe the 4th is mine, even if it sounds a bit elitist :lol
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Another pretty solid round , but there was a fair gap between the top 6 and bottom 6 this time around.. Not a great deal has changed ,aside from TAC making a move when those around him scored lower- now within striking distance of 6th . There’s only four of you left with one possible bonus point now – don’t forget to use them if you wish to. I will allow use of the bonus point in the final , but (aside from being out of 20) the final has no higher weighting than any of the earlier rounds and so I would tend to concentrate on making the final.
Let's see if we can do a bit better this time with submissions.......I would like to have everything in by Wed morning our time (Tuesday night US) if at all possible. That'll give me a good headstart before things begin to get crazy again around this joint from Thursday thru Saturday.
1) Cans: Beyond The Gates – wolfking Rating: 10
I have never been big into the super cheesy power metal bands – the likes of Hammerfall , Rhapsody, etc.....- and as I often say with bands like Stratovarius (who made my DTF Top 50) , to me the real power in “power metal” is when they slow down and riff away instead of the “happy” double kick marathons. This song is a good mix of power metal and some classic metal elements and the vocals have touches of Halford and King Diamond , so I can see why you like it Kade. In fact I hear plenty of Judas Priest in this ( esp the pre-chorus and chorus) and I like it for the same reasons. Nothing here is re-inventing the wheel at all and the chorus in particular is fairly standard – sometimes K.I.S.S. works – but in concert with a great intro ,pre-chorus etc...... it’s just very well written heavy metal and I daresay probably more appealing to me than all of Cans’ work in Hammerfall. I think the only thing that was a tiny letdown here is how restrained Mark Zonder is in this – must’ve been nodding off :)
This is only my 2nd “perfect score” for the roulette and , although this may not be quite as perfect as the earlier one from JJ I also bear in mind the correct spacing of ratings when I am doing this. I thought this song was clearly one point better than anything else , but I decided that I wanted to give the next few a 9/10......so that arithmetic says 10/10. You’re doing very well for someone who is supposedly out of material Kade and doing a great job now of balancing heaviness and melody – my metal sweet spot..
2)Binary Creed: How Many Tears – Lowdz Rating: 9
The first thing I noticed with this song (aside from it being a bit “Nightwishy” early on) was the distinctive and familiar vocal tone.........so this is the guy from Hollow . I have a couple of their albums and they have some very good stuff on them but unfortunately suffer from some pretty poor production. No such issues here though. I don’t have a great deal to say about this aside from it being very solid power metal with a vocal full of character. The music doesn’t stand out to me in any one area – just a very solid effort all round.
3) Disturbed: The Vengeful One - Bolsters Rating: 9
Disturbed have been a band that I pigeon holed into the “modern metal” grouping that , on the whole ,don’t tend to do much for me. I did however buy The Sickness as a sampler at some point , but (like many albums I have) never really got around to a proper listen. So this is a good thing for me to check out. They do seem to have a reputation for being a bit “samey” across their discog but I can only review the one song and I quite liked it. The riff is nice and crunchy and the vocal , while nothing brilliant technically, is strong and thankfully he just sings naturally and doesn’t go out of his way to add that modern “twang” . Good track.
4) Harlequin: Superstitious Feeling – jjrock88 Rating: 9
The only reason that I know the name Harlequin is that I was a big Icon fan back in the day and their singer Jerry Harrison (the 2nd singer ) was ex-Harlequin. It turns out that when I looked into it that there are/were two Harlequin bands – a harder rock band from USA and the AOR band from Canada. And believe it or not JJ has sent the softer version :lol This is quite a nice track – somewhere along the lines of Night Ranger meets Foreigner , only the vocalist (while good) isn’t Lou Gramm.......but then who is? I didn’t feel that the chorus quite got to the same level as the verses but all the same........nice song .
5) Voodoo Circle: Devil’s Daughter – Big Hath 9
It’s actually nice to hear Readman singing something out of his usual zone ,as after many years of being a PC69 fan I find his melodic metal stuff can be a bit samey these days. This song is from an album of theirs I am missing and I enjoyed it. I don’t think that the song reaches any huge heights in any one department , but everything about it is very good. Strong vocals , clear production etc....... The sound is very much along the lines of bluesy Purple/Whitesnake and the guitar solo has a shot at aping Ritchie Blackmore at the start with the staccato muting stuff. The change of tempo into the outro was a nice touch too and snagged you an extra half point.
6) Heavenly: Hands of Darkness – TAC Rating: 8.5 + 1 = 9.5
This is quite nice Tim – you haven’t had much luck with me as far as vocalists go , so send an instrumental and voila :lol . As you know I have the prior album by Heavenly (half killer, half filler) and never really followed through on their next release ,which is what we have here. After the initial 45 seconds I was dreading the potential for a 5min + shredathon with little in the way of melody/riffs but thankfully there’s a bit of variety going on with the shred interspersed with some nice rhythmic ideas which is enough to maintain my interest. Nothing that I haven’t heard before a few times but it’s quality and rated as such. You get a bonus point and you might just be back in the game with two rounds to run before the final.
7) Dada: Rise – kingshmegland Rating: 7.5
This is quite a relaxing listen – bluesy modern rock I suppose . I thought that the song itself, the harmonies and guitar playing were solid ,but on the whole I found the track a bit like Chad’s. Very competent and listenable but not a lot reached out and grabbed me to demand repeat listens
8) Angels of Babylon: White Star Line – erwinrafael Rating: 7.5
Quite a nice classical guitar intro here had me very interested , then some nice symphonic elements to finish off a nice epic intro. This is followed by a pretty simple riff and a singer that I struggled with a bit............so some of the magic of the intro was lost. The lead guitar playing in this is nice , as was the symphonic interlude in the middle. In the end I found that the simple chugging riffs and the average vocals (to me he sounds like what he is – a drummer who sings) didn’t quite live up to the symphonic and lead guitar elements. A hard one to rate in the end but I settled on 7.5
9) The Moody Blues: Ride My See Saw – jingle.boy Rating: 7.5
So Evil Knievel decided that sending 70’s wasn’t risky enough and sends The Moody Blues. :lol I have an extremely vague memory of hearing stuff like this in the car when I was a very,very young boy (late 70’s) and so it’s not totally unfamiliar to me. Now having said that I think my Dad used it to get me to sleep for a long trip :lol I really had to consult my ratings explanations in the OP to make sure I got the rating right here. I found it listenable so we’re talking 6+ but I’m really not keen enough to listen to it regularly /didn’t get “involved” (8+) , so I split the difference and rounded up a bit for a 7.5 due to the quality sound/harmonies. When it comes to the 60’s stuff in this style I do remember enjoying some songs from The Beach Boys but on the whole I think success is more likely with something rocking like the Hendrix . I am open to being convinced on The Beatles too..................I have hardly have anything from them ,but again anything from this period is playing with fire where I am concerned. In the end this is very inoffensive music that I find listenable enough , just not something I would ever bother to line up for play through my own initiative.
10) Theodore Ziras: Hyperpyrexia – Evermind Rating:7.5+1 bonus =8.5
I have no issue with shred – my collection is full of shred instrumental stuff. And my ratings tend to vary a lot on those albums , depending on whether the shred is part of a clever, melodic song or the shred is all that there is. Most of the artists I am referring to have plenty in both categories. It’s rare that I find an album in this genre that is great from start to finish – Satriani had a few , Macalpine almost got there and Vinnie Moore has a few (Meltdown being my favourite). In this case it sits somewhere in the middle I suppose , leaning more towards “shred only” – to some extent it was saved by the short guitar synth sections. But in the end this sounds a bit more like a technical exercise to me than a “song” . I suppose I can also compare this to some stuff I recorded myself way back in the day. Ziras is undoubtedly faster than I ever was but I was always conscious of making the shred a weapon to be used at the right time rather than it being the main reason for the song . Technically I give the playing a 9 but the song I give a 7.5
11) Bent Knee : Being Human - Sacul Rating: 7
This is another one of those arty “modern” songs that has elements that I really like and some that I really don’t. Up until you “modern” rockers started sending me stuff I have usually found the idea of liking/disliking a song very simple - I like it or I don’t. But many of these songs have great elements that I can relate to and others I just can’t , which makes rating difficult. We’ll start with the bad...........from just before 2 mins to 4 mins I found that it was a mix of prog for progs sake and a lot of noise. The other 3 mins of the song (especially the first two) showcased a very capable band and a female singer with an angelic jazzy voice. I’ll run with a 7 (hard to go much higher when I seriously struggle with half the song), but having said that I hear a band that (if they toned down the arty elements) are capable of producing music that I would love and would be well outside my comfort zone. Just not sure that they ever will..........I will check them out at the end of the roulette though.
12) Max Webster w/Rush : Battle Scar – splent Rating 7
So you thought your song was a bit like Judas Priest , eh? A point off for that. And another point deducted for that frightful yellow body suit on the album cover :lol It was a brave submission ,knowing (presumably) my thoughts on Rush and Geddy Lee’s voice. I knew Rush were involved here but didn’t realise that Geddy shared vocals. I suppose he put in one of his less grating vocal performances , but that’s not saying much :lol I though the start of this track was promising but it turned into a bit of a “plodder” with little in the way of time changes to refresh things and I found it a bit of a struggle to get through . That said there’s nothing else particularly wrong with it and like a few above.............listenable but not inspiring me at all.
Before the standings I will do a little summary of bonus points available from here and we’ll just cross them off as used:
DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
wolfking
kingshmegland
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
splent
Big Hath
Sacul
TAC
Evermind
STANDINGS
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5+9 +10= 55.5
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9+8.5+9= 55
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5+9.5+9=54.5
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+8.5+8.5 = 54.5
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5+9.5+9 = 54
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5+8.5 +9= 52
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5+9.5 =51
Sacul 9+9+7.5+8.5 +9.5+7= 50.5
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 +7+9+7.5=50.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5+7.5=49.5
splent 9+8+8.5+8+8+7= 48.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 +7.5+7+7.5= 47.5
Banned bands
Al Di Meola
Almah
Amorphis
Anathema
Angelica
Angels of Babylon
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Bent Knee
Big Wreck
Binary Creed
Black Majesty
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Cans
Chaos Frame
Coheed and Cambria
Cryonic Temple
Dada
Damnation Angels
Dead End
Death
Disturbed
Down
Evil Masquerade
Haken
Harlequin
Haven
Heavenly
Holst
Holy Shite
Ice Age
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Max Webster
Mr Mister
My Soliloquy
Myland
Mystery
Nazareth
Need
Odd Dimension
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Riverside
Sebastien
Seven tears
Shineback
Sieges Even
Spock’s Beard
Skid Row
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Black Mages
The Blitz
The Mob
The Moody Blues
The Neal Morse Band
The Pineapple Thief
The Sacrificed
The Hsu Nami
Theodore Ziras
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
UFO
U.K.
Vicious Rumors
Voodoo Circle
Warmachine
X Japan
Yanni
Yes
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screw you that bent knee song is amazing :lol
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Cans? A perfect 10?? :omg:
I have that album.
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screw you that bent knee song is amazing :lol
I agree.......about 40% of it :lol It's like an awesome metal song with cookie monster vocals :P
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screw you that bent knee song Battle Scar is amazing :lol
My thoughts exactly.
Well, not only are my instincts wrong, but the opposite of my instincts are also wrong. :lol
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I don't even know what round this is! :lol
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Best of luck to David,Kade and Jay when it comes your turn :rollin
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Round 9 sent.
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
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Oh well.
Sent.
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
There's nothing pleasing him, you know... you were right in saying this would be a tough one to be my first.
AT LEAST I'M NOT LAST! That was my goal :lol
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
There's nothing pleasing him, you know... you were right in saying this would be a tough one to be my first.
AT LEAST I'M NOT LAST! That was my goal :lol
Funny, I'm making it a race to the bottom (not really, but kinda... not really). I consider it as much a badge of honor to finish worst as I do to finish first. :biggrin:
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
There's nothing pleasing him, you know... you were right in saying this would be a tough one to be my first.
AT LEAST I'M NOT LAST! That was my goal :lol
If you had told me at the start of this roulette that there would barely be a song rated <7 I would've said you were crazy. I've been damn gentle I reckon :neverusethis:
Check out Parama's roulette if you want some 4's and 5's :lol
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
There's nothing pleasing him, you know... you were right in saying this would be a tough one to be my first.
AT LEAST I'M NOT LAST! That was my goal :lol
Funny, I'm making it a race to the bottom (not really, but kinda... not really). I consider it as much a badge of honor to finish worst as I do to finish first. :biggrin:
If I did as many as you have I would probably do something like that.
Omg how about a worst song roulette?!?! Everyone sends the listener their least favorite songs (they rate them the same way), and then the lowest score wins!!!
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I'm going to send you something I hate next time because you'll probably love it :lol
Doubt it. That strategy isn't working for me. :rollin
There's nothing pleasing him, you know... you were right in saying this would be a tough one to be my first.
AT LEAST I'M NOT LAST! That was my goal :lol
Funny, I'm making it a race to the bottom (not really, but kinda... not really). I consider it as much a badge of honor to finish worst as I do to finish first. :biggrin:
If I did as many as you have I would probably do something like that.
Omg how about a worst song roulette?!?! Everyone sends the listener their least favorite songs (they rate them the same way), and then the lowest score wins!!!
Rich did a round exactly like that in his a few years back. I wanted to stick an ice-pick in my ear with some of the things people submitted.
@ Brent... you have been pretty lenient.
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Check out Parama's roulette if you want some 4's and 5's :lol
i stand firmly behind the 2 i gave out. it'd be hard to go lower than 2 unless you entered something like bad radio rap :tup
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Check out Parama's roulette if you want some 4's and 5's :lol
i stand firmly behind the 2 i gave out. it'd be hard to go lower than 2 unless you entered something like bad radio rap :tup
Sorry...........2's,3's,4's and 5's ;D Nobody has sent me rap yet , but those of you craving bottom spot ...... ;)
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this is probably the worst song i can think of that isn't like, merzbow-level harsh noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDJBsvdGQ_4
but it's so bad it's good, and i love how awful it is
i actually get more enjoyment value out of this than i do out of songs i'd say are better but still not very good
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Looks like the music gods are trying to protect my ears
(https://s7.postimg.org/efpur5lcb/minaj.jpg)
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you are one of the lucky ones
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Yeah I've heard that song. Yuck. I have a really good pos song that gets a 0 as far as how awful it is though....
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I thought you'd like that Brent, should have saved it for the finals. I'm almost out. :lol
Cans? A perfect 10?? :omg:
I have that album.
It's a brilliant album. Better than most Hammerfall albums.
Alright, I'll send something tonight. Might even have a crack at the instrumental.
I can still take a punt with something different and the score not be added to my total, is that right Brent?
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Nope, every round counts now I think.
8,5 will do I guess, though I don't know what to do now - I had some great songs saved for Finals, but I may need to use one of them now to make it there.
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Nope, every round counts now I think.
Thanks, that's right it was only the first 5 rounds or something.
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Evermind is correct.............everything counts from here. Two more rounds out of 10 and the final EP to be ranked out of 20.
If you plan on sending four songs in the final for your twenty points (as an example) then I suppose you might say that a brilliant song has more points value in the next two rounds being scored out of ten. Up to you guys.
Scores will not be zeroed for the finals. Every point you have on your score now counts towards the final tally.
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I haven't even thought of finals yet. I'm afraid I'll leave myself pretty short, but I'll come up with something.
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screw you that bent knee song is amazing :lol
This :lol
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I've had a band picked out for the finals for a while incase I got there, but I'm not sure how they'll do.
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I've had a band picked out for the finals for a while incase I got there, but I'm not sure how they'll do.
a band? ...............I thought you had 80 songs......not all the same band I hope? :P :lol
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a band? ...............I thought you had 80 songs......not all the same band I hope? :P :lol
I have 80 minutes not 80 songs. :P
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Okay...........still pretty well prepared I woulda thunk :lol Speaking of which my wolfking roulette playlist is up to one and a half DAYS :lol I haven't had time to cull while doing my own roulette.
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Please allow me to say that I love playing my first roulette. I think I enjoyed discovering new music here more than Brent did. This is one of my more memorable "music experience" given that I do not have knowledge about a lot of this stuff because of the limited music that reach our shores.
Most likely, I am not reaching the finals. So, Brent, I have already sent you the progressive church music. Next round, I am pretty sure that I will send you the progressive aerobics music full of 1980s cheese. :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Let's Get Physical by Olivia Newton John is banned Erwin.....just so you're aware. You seem to have plenty of Aussie music :)
And for a change Erwin isn't joking - he did send me church music :lol
And I have half the songs now thanks guys .........6 to go.
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Speaking of which my wolfking roulette playlist is up to one and a half DAYS :lol
Holy fucking shit! :eek
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Well, well. Mmmn. What to do, what to do.
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Sent a hard rock / power metal ballad.
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Sent, as long as Brent doesn't have it :biggrin: :justjen
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Will send later today if I can find something he won't hate :lol
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Sent, as long as Brent doesn't have it :biggrin: :justjen
good luck!
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Sent, as long as Brent doesn't have it :biggrin: :justjen
good luck!
Yeah, tell me about it :biggrin:
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Sent an instrumental.
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Sent, as long as Brent doesn't have it :biggrin: :justjen
haha..........clever move here Paul :tup
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9 tracks in ..............hoping to be under way with my first listen by late-ish tonight our time (around 12 hours away)
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Sent, as long as Brent doesn't have it :biggrin: :justjen
haha..........clever move here Paul :tup
I hope so!
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Sent!
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Strong round guys.........only a couple of listens in but at this stage I would say a similar spread of ratings as the last round but a clearly higher average score.
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Gonna be tight into finals then by the sounds of it.
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Should have some teasers up tonight guys and results tomorrow (Thursday Aussie time)
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You're moving faster than mine!
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#gethyped2k15
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You're moving faster than mine!
As good as it gets mate :neverusethis:
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You're moving faster than mine!
Looks like you might struggle to have yours done by the 6th bro?
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Gonna be tight into finals then by the sounds of it.
If nothing changes between now and my final ratings for Rd 9 there will only be 1.5 points between 1st and 5th going into Rd 10.
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How many go into finals again? I honestly don't know. ::)
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How many go into finals again? I honestly don't know. ::)
Top 6
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You're moving faster than mine!
Looks like you might struggle to have yours done by the 6th bro?
I likely won't have final results posted by the 6th, but will be in the final listening stages.
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
I'd offer some suggestions, but that would likely hurt your chances. :biggrin:
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
Don't forget Kade.............NOTHING is wasted. Final round score will be added to your score at the end of Rd 10.
I will run through a few examples to be a bit clearer. Firstly the final round is a 20 min EP (18-25 mins ) and will be scored out of 20.
Example 1) Let's say that you have one single 19 minute track that you might use in Rd 10 or in the final - that track is going to be rated out of 20 in the final and might best be held back for the final if you think it's a killer.
Example 2) If your final EP will have 2 tracks on it then it's neither here nor there as these tracks will effectively score out of 10 just like the regular rounds
Example 3)
If your final round EP will have 4 tracks on then these tracks are effectively being rated out of 5. So a track that might normally get a 9 will score a 4.5. If this sounds more like you then a killer track might be better sent in Round 10 as it will carry more points weight there.
Make sense?
Obviously more tracks on the EP spreads your risk too , so that's up to you guys.
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
I'd offer some suggestions, but that would likely hurt your chances. :biggrin:
Thanks for the offer bro. ;D
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
Don't forget Kade.............NOTHING is wasted. Final round score will be added to your score at the end of Rd 10.
I will run through a few examples to be a bit clearer. Firstly the final round is a 20 min EP (18-25 mins ) and will be scored out of 20.
Example 1) Let's say that you have one single 19 minute track that you might use in Rd 10 or in the final - that track is going to be rated out of 20 in the final and might best be held back for the final if you think it's a killer.
Example 2) If your final EP will have 2 tracks on it then it's neither here nor there as these tracks will effectively score out of 10 just like the regular rounds
Example 3)
If your final round EP will have 4 tracks on then these tracks are effectively being rated out of 5. So a track that might normally get a 9 will score a 4.5. If this sounds more like you then a killer track might be better sent in Round 10 as it will carry more points weight there.
Make sense?
Obviously more tracks on the EP spreads your risk too , so that's up to you guys.
This does make a lot of sense mate, and definitely something to think about. Everyone should read this, could make all the difference to be honest.
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I think I should probably start compiling stuff for the final. I SHOULD be safe considering Brent's comments on the scores this round. Need a safe song for the last round though, but have blown plenty of loads already and don't want to waste something else if it can be used in finals.
Don't forget Kade.............NOTHING is wasted. Final round score will be added to your score at the end of Rd 10.
I will run through a few examples to be a bit clearer. Firstly the final round is a 20 min EP (18-25 mins ) and will be scored out of 20.
Example 1) Let's say that you have one single 19 minute track that you might use in Rd 10 or in the final - that track is going to be rated out of 20 in the final and might best be held back for the final if you think it's a killer.
Example 2) If your final EP will have 2 tracks on it then it's neither here nor there as these tracks will effectively score out of 10 just like the regular rounds
Example 3)
If your final round EP will have 4 tracks on then these tracks are effectively being rated out of 5. So a track that might normally get a 9 will score a 4.5. If this sounds more like you then a killer track might be better sent in Round 10 as it will carry more points weight there.
Make sense?
Obviously more tracks on the EP spreads your risk too , so that's up to you guys.
This does make a lot of sense mate, and definitely something to think about. Everyone should read this, could make all the difference to be honest.
tl;dr
:lol
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Too low , didn't read? ;D
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Too low , didn't read? ;D
:rollin
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So you are not scoring the EP on whether it sounds like an EP? (that is, there is a theme, there is a good flow of songs).
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So you are not scoring the EP on whether it sounds like an EP? (that is, there is a theme, there is a good flow of songs).
Interesting question and something I considered in preparing an EP for jingle.boy in case I make his final. The way I read his rules it didn't seem like the flow of the EP would affect the rating , but all the same I have placed one short interlude track on it for that reason - the transition from one track to the next was too jarring IMO.
It is quite hard to make say 3-4 songs from different artists and different genres flow really well.
So my answer is that if you had a choice between 4 amazing songs that don't flow well vs 4 good songs that do flow well .........then I will have the 4 amazing songs please . ;D I will only "go with the flow" if it comes down to splitting a tie. So there might be half a point in it , but I would focus on great songs as the major priority.
Perhaps consider it more a "sampler" EP.
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OK. I am not making it to the finals anyway. :lol
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OK. I am not making it to the finals anyway. :lol
I wouldn't say you're totally out of it the way things are shaping up , but someone ahead of you would have to really stuff up.
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Too low , didn't read? ;D
Well done.
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What, there's another round after this??? Rapidly running out of music that's send worthy.
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What, there's another round after this??? Rapidly running out of music that's send worthy.
You'll be right bro. I've been saying that since round 2 and have been surprising myself.
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Too low , didn't read? ;D
Well done.
Indeed it was. I tip my cap to you sir.
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Some short teasers (almost forgot......bedtime!):
" I preferred the instrumental sections to the vocal sections. "
"Well these guys obviously wanna be Judas Priest"
"It’s bright , melodic , nice vocal harmonies, layered guitars and has bits and pieces of other bands that I quite like "
"It reminds me a bit of Threshold in the chorus"
"the vocal performance and a nice solo turn what is really a pretty basic 70’s influenced rock track into a bit of a barnstormer"
"This track definitely gave me a bit of a Chilli Peppers vibe "
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I can't remember what I sent. :lol
I am so lost in these roulettes.
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There's a thing called a Sent folder for geezers who can't remember ;)
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Gonna have to start checking that box.
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" I preferred the instrumental sections to the vocal sections. "
I really hope this isn't mine. If it is though, don't let Tim know about it. :lol
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Tim's going to have kittens when he sees what you submitted either way :lol
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Mine is definitely not the Priest one :lol
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A couple could be mine. :lol
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Mine is definitely not the Priest one :lol
nope, thats mine
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Second from the ottomh could be mine...
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Extremely busy day ahead but planning for one more listen throughout today/tonight and results late tonight our time (Thurs morn US)
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" I preferred the instrumental sections to the vocal sections. "
I really hope this isn't mine. If it is though, don't let Tim know about it. :lol
Could be me. Mine was full of instrumental wankery.
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None of those comments are mine.
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Quite a strong round folks..........we have our 3rd 10/10 for the roulette and many scores in the 8.5-9 area too. I am not sure that much has changed in the standings. Not much else to say apart from "keep it up."
1) Burnclear: Lost For Life – Bolsters Rating: 10
Now this is power prog I can relate to. Great musicianship , melodic and progressive rhythms with no time for the mind to wander around thinking “when it this wankery going to end”. - in the end I reckon this is good enough to deserve the third 10/10 of the roulette. It reminds me a bit of Threshold in the chorus.....in fact parts of the verses do too but the song as a whole is a bit more upbeat/power metal than your regular Threshold track. Good stuff mate......I don’t mind soft music at all (as seen below) but like Kade you seem to have zeroed in on my heavy/melodic/prog sweet spot with a number of your recent submissions.
2) Inglorious: Breakaway – Lowdz Rating 9.5
Paul has done a “seneca” here (for those following jingle.boy’s roulette) and used an advance track from an album months away from being released. Tricky customer :lol I was already very interested in this album (Paul wasn’t aware of that btw) , not because I have any great interest in anyone involved but because I was hearing good things. The band have promoted themselves as being a real band with the raw studio energy that hasn’t been around in “project bands” and if this track is anything to go by then they have achieved it. That ,the vocal performance by Nathan James (TSO) and a nice solo turn what is really a pretty basic 70’s influenced rock track into a bit of a barnstormer. The track ends a bit unexpectedly but you don’t want a fade out on a track like this. Three minutes of rockin’ energy.
3)America: Ventura Highway – splent Rating: 9
splent goes back to what he knows works and scores a goal. This is the sort of 70’s music I can dig and , like the Steely Dan track you sent , I do know the song from the radio growing up. It’s bright , melodic , nice vocal harmonies, layered guitars and has bits and pieces of other bands that I quite like (Doobies, The Eagles, Fleetwood mac) along with other artists that I might not have bothered with so much (CSNY). In general I am not a fan of folk metal but some of the folk tinged 70’s rock does seem to connect with me.
4) Unisonic: Over The Rainbow - Evermind Rating: 9
Nice, relaxing slightly Celtic vibe to this song and as per usual Kiske does a great job. I have put it out there a few times that , despite my love of the second Unisonic , I never really bothered much with the debut. This bonus track from the debut is likely more up my alley than most of the stuff on the regular release. In the end this is a pretty safe,simple song but it does the job and Kiske’s voice and a nice guitar solo elevate it above your average ballad. I find Hansen’s writing very up and down (and I believe the input of Denis Ward into the follow up was a big factor in my feelings towards it) – when he’s good he can be great , but he also has a lot of stuff I really don’t like - but this is certainly a good one. Not quite the magic seen in the ballads Kiske has done elsewhere (Place Vendome) but not far off.
5) Foghat: Slow Ride – jingle.boy Rating 9
You have also returned to a style more along the lines of the one or two 70’s bands that you know I like . There’s a definite Doobies feel to the main rhythm here and even the gang vocals aren’t too dissimilar at times The guitar rhythms throughout (aside from the distinctive Foghat slide guitars) and some of the vocals also have a very clear Zep vibe. “Slow down............slow down.........” has Zep written all over it . The extended midsection is fine thanks to the cool bass groove and things move on before it totally wears out its welcome – the outro too thanks to some crazy slide playing. Come to think of it I am sure I have heard a wank free radio edit of this song before . This may not be my favourite style or era but like the America track above it has a really cool groove/hook and nice vocals and is rated accordingly.
6) Rick Wakeman: Never Is A Long Long Time – erwinrafael Rating:9
I liked this a bit more than I thought I would at first Erwin...........a bit of a grower. Probably one of the better example of incorporating choir/strings into pop rock style music that I have heard (although that’s not much :lol ) ..........if an orchestra can groove then these guys are doing it. And some nice playing from Rabin ,who I do already like......I’m not sure I could’ve ranked it quite so high without some guitar solos to make me feel like I was at home :lol This album is one of the few featuring Ozzy Osbourne that I don’t have , so I’ll have to fix that.
7) Tremonti: So You’re Afraid - Big Hath Rating:9
I am of course familiar with Tremonti through Alter Bridge and Creed and he comes up with some cool crunchy (if a bit “samey”) riffs – and he has employed a Van Halen in his band so he must have some taste :lol. There’s some Alter Bridge songs that I really like but over an extended listen Myles Kennedy can get on my nerves a bit ,so I don’t mind Tremonti’s more vanilla , but still strong vocal tone. I’m not really all that familiar with all the post-grunge bands but this sounds a bit like Nickelback after growing some gonads I suppose. I did get a hold of Cauterize and never got around to it – it doesn’t take much imagination to see an album full of very “samey” tracks in this style and so it’ll be interesting to see whether I find there’s enough variety across an album of his to hold my attention.
8) Saint: Phantom of the Galaxy/Steel Killer – jjrock88 Rating:8.5
Well these guys obviously wanna be Judas Priest – only the band is just a bit behind the eight ball in all areas (relative to Priest) . Having said that it’s good solid classic metal and there are some progressive elements to this that add some interest. The song sounded almost over at 2.30 and then changed direction a bit, which I liked. This is Christian metal and you wouldn’t really know (not super preachy) which is how I like it.
9) Stargate: The Power Within – TAC Rating:8.5
if there was one guy in this roulette I would’ve backed to send me lots of very “immediate” music ,it would’ve been you Tim but you have surprised me with a lot of prog music that really takes time to grow on me. The extent to which it grows has often had at least a bit to do with a vocalist with a “unique” tone that I was struggling with. And although I wouldn’t say that I struggled with this guy , once again he wasn’t immediately likeable for me .
The incorporation of Spanish guitar into the song was pretty cool I thought and – I have said this for one or two of your other submissions – I think I preferred the instrumental sections to the vocal sections. Certainly a very interesting track but the vocalist and some melodies that weren’t quite there stopped it from scoring a little higher.
10) Glenn Tipton: Baptizm of Fire – wolfking Rating: 8 +1 bonus=9
One thing that stood out to me listening to this back to back with the other tracks is that the production on this sucks ass. That aside I wasn’t quite as impressed with this as you are Kade.
I’ll let you in on a theory I developed over my time listening,playing and teaching. And before I go ahead........there are many exceptions (JP is one) but it’s still a decent rule of thumb for me with guitarists. I can divide most of my favourite guitarists into the triers/grafters and the technicians/musical genius categories.
Grafters: guys who have just a decent musical knowledge , very good (but not great) technique and often write/play by ear or hear what they want to play in their head and then figure it out on the neck when writing rather than thinking in complex musical terms. As EVH said ......they fall down the stairs and land on their feet. These guys are often my favourite classic hard rock/metal players - great feel for rhythm , riffs ,solos full of fire and personality in a traditional vocal song setting. A bit rough around the edges , they make musical ideas work that really shouldn’t in theory and if anything that just increases my enjoyment. Put them in a situation where they have to improvise for extended periods or write lengthy instrumentals though and they run out of musical ideas/melodies pretty quick and it can get ugly. Examples: EVH , Tipton
Technicians: these guys have impeccable technique and musical knowledge and are capable of amazing instrumental compositions and “on the fly” improvisation but put in a situation where they need to write traditional rock/metal songs with vocals they become quite sterile and uninspired relative to the grafters. I would put Satriani and Moore in this category.
The end result is that players like EVH and Tipton are right up there for me in an all time list (or EVH’s case at the pinaccle) , but I wouldn’t back either of them to impress me over a whole album of instrumentals. I was a bit in this category myself as a player despite studying music reasonably extensively. I was aware of my limitations and back in the early 90’s it took me 4 years to put together a 5 track instrumental EP that I was pretty happy with :lol
Tipton does alright here though in a “structured jam” sorta way and the backing band is stellar but I find his fairly “dirty” playing and lack of melodic ideas doesn’t gel 100% for me in a full length instrumental track . I think I enjoyed the other musicians as much if not more than Tipton on this. Still.......it’s a decent track and with a bonus point you still receive a 9/10,
11) Blackfield: Christenings - Sacul Rating: 7.5
While a lot of the other guys have zeroed in on artists I like in the "pop rock" area and looked for common threads in other artists , you have submitted a song that sounds like a mix of artists that have never really done much for me ( Bowie , Oasis, early Floyd, Radiohead, etc....). Having said that this sort of melancholy/depressing pop rock doesn’t bother me it all – it’s a pleasant enough listen and Wilson’s voice is nice enough (if a bit “plain”) but it doesn’t really grab my attention much either. I think if I am going to like Wilson I am likely to have more luck with his solo/PT stuff.
12) I Mother earth: Pisser – kingshmegland Rating: 7
Well the lyrics are a pisser anyway king :lol This track definitely gave me a bit of a Chilli Peppers vibe along with the distorted modern sound present in a few of your selections. As far as this sort of funky rock goes I thought it was quite decent , although the hooks (while present) didn’t continue to hold my attention for large parts of the song. Sorry to have you down the bottom again king but I appreciate you trying to push me a bit and , in the end, you are still averaging almost 8. It’s just not quite getting there against the competition in recent rounds.
Before the standings I will do a little summary of bonus points available from here and we’ll just cross them off as used:
DTF Fave Bonus Point Available:
jjrock88
Lowdz
Instrumental Bonus Point Available
kingshmegland
No Bonus Points Available
Bolsters
jingle.boy
erwinrafael
splent
Big Hath
Sacul
TAC
Evermind
wolfking
STANDINGS
With one round to go before finals it’ll now take a big mistake from one of the top 6 to change the line up for the final round. Paul isn’t totally safe though - if erwin/ TAC have a perfect ten hiding somewhere then maybe?
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5+9.5+9+10=64.5
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5+9 +10+9=64.5
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9+8.5+9+8.5= 63.5
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+8.5+8.5+9 = 63.5
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5+9.5+9 +9= 63
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5+8.5 +9+9.5= 61.5
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 +7+9+7.5+9=59.5
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5+9.5+8.5 =59.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5+7.5+9=58.5
Sacul 9+9+7.5+8.5 +9.5+7+7.5= 58
splent 9+8+8.5+8+8+7+9= 57.5
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 +7.5+7+7.5+7= 54.5
Banned bands
Al Di Meola
Almah
America
Amorphis
Anathema
Angelica
Angels of Babylon
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Animals As leaders
Bent Knee
Big Wreck
Binary Creed
Black Majesty
Blackfield
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Burnclear
Cans
Chaos Frame
Coheed and Cambria
Cryonic Temple
Dada
Damnation Angels
Dead End
Death
Disturbed
Down
Evil Masquerade
FOghat
Glenn Tipton
Haken
Harlequin
Haven
Heavenly
Holst
Holy Shite
I Mother Earth
Ice Age
Inglorious
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Max Webster
Mr Mister
My Soliloquy
Myland
Mystery
Nazareth
Need
Odd Dimension
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Rick Wakeman
Riverside
Saint
Sebastien
Seven tears
Shineback
Sieges Even
Spock’s Beard
Skid Row
Stargate
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Black Mages
The Blitz
The Mob
The Moody Blues
The Neal Morse Band
The Pineapple Thief
The Sacrificed
The Hsu Nami
Theodore Ziras
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
TRemonti
UFO
U.K.
Unisonic
Vicious Rumors
Voodoo Circle
Warmachine
X Japan
Yanni
Yes
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IME's last album with a different singer was dark like Tool and I wasn't sure if you were into that to be honest.
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Will send you the aerobics music. :)
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Will send you the aerobics music. :)
That's the reason I rushed these results out so quick............can't wait.
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I wasn't even aware of the Unisonic bonus track. :facepalm:
Interesting what people send. Glenn Tipton? Foghat??
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You sure like a lot of songs!
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1) Burnclear: Lost For Life – Bolsters Rating: 10
:hat
Surprised Slow Ride got through, I thought everyone knew that song. :lol
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1) Burnclear: Lost For Life – Bolsters Rating: 10
:hat
Surprised Slow Ride got through, I thought everyone knew that song. :lol
I'm being fairly lenient and allowing songs I have heard but don't own. I knew the America track too. In most cases sending a song I know but don't own wouldn't work out so well.
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1) Burnclear: Lost For Life – Bolsters Rating: 10
:hat
Surprised Slow Ride got through, I thought everyone knew that song. :lol
I'm being fairly lenient and allowing songs I have heard but don't own. I knew the America track too. In most cases sending a song I know but don't own wouldn't work out so well.
Dude... you could've rejected it. I told you I was aiming for totally unknown stuff. I never know if radio hits here made it as radio hits there (as you found out this morning). Not like it matters, I'm not making the finals.
Ok, pulling out the massively obscure glam-rock this round.
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Dude... you could've rejected it.
I specified in the OP that the only rule for submissions was that I didn't own it...............I'm not going to muck about with rules once they are in place. :)
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Roulettes are funny animals.
Anyway, I'm going out with a TAC Favorite.
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Roulettes are funny animals.
Anyway, I'm going out with a TAC Favorite.
That means it time for UFO or Alice Cooper!!!
Will send later
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Roulettes are funny animals.
Anyway, I'm going out with a TAC Favorite.
That means it time for UFO or Alice Cooper!!!
Will send later
:lol
Well I already sent UFO, and I was considering an Alice Cooper track. Trying to pick one was too hard.
Actually it's from a TAC Favorite Album. Not necessarily the band.
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My ep is all ready barring one band to clear :justjen, just need to find another killer track to make sure I get there.
I've been signed up to the Inglorious Facebook page since getting the tip very early about the band, and apart from a workmanlike cover of Burn, one of my all time favourite songs, there's been little music to hear. This track s a cracker and I'm eagerly awaiting the release in Feb.
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7) Tremonti: So You’re Afraid - Big Hath Rating:9
it doesn’t take much imagination to see an album full of very “samey” tracks in this style and so it’ll be interesting to see whether I find there’s enough variety across an album of his to hold my attention.
so yeah, there is a bit of that on this album. Maybe one ballad and one sort-of ballad (which I almost went with). I think what makes this one stand out a bit is that the samey stuff is :metal blistering metal :metal for the most part. He went really heavy with this stuff.
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Oh well :P
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I wasn't even aware of the Unisonic bonus track. :facepalm:
That's a :facepalm: indeed. It's amazing, my favourite off the album.
1) Burnclear: Lost For Life – Bolsters Rating: 10
:hat
Surprised Slow Ride got through, I thought everyone knew that song. :lol
I'm being fairly lenient and allowing songs I have heard but don't own. I knew the America track too. In most cases sending a song I know but don't own wouldn't work out so well.
Dude... you could've rejected it. I told you I was aiming for totally unknown stuff. I never know if radio hits here made it as radio hits there (as you found out this morning). Not like it matters, I'm not making the finals.
Ok, pulling out the massively obscure glam-rock this round.
Wait until you see what I'll send in Finals, if I get there. ;)
Will send tomorrow is that's alright.
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Eh, I respect your opinion Brent, but Tipton is probably a top 5 all time guitarist for me. His solos are out of this world in terms of technique, phrasing and just how he puts things together and note choices. I agree with the improvising aspect, but that's not what he's about for me. It's probably why this is the only real instrumental track he ever did.
Gotta find something for this round. Hmmm......
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Eh, I respect your opinion Brent, but Tipton is probably a top 5 all time guitarist for me. His solos are out of this world in terms of technique, phrasing and just how he puts things together and note choices. I agree with the improvising aspect, but that's not what he's about for me. It's probably why this is the only real instrumental track he ever did.
We're really not disagreeing all that much and he is right up there (not Top 10 but not too far off) for me too. I like a lot of his note choices and phrasing in the JP songs - I just don't think he has the musical ideas (in a lead guitar sense) to carry full instrumental tracks. Like you say..............likely the reason he never really goes there even on solo albums.
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I'll send tomorrow. Waiting on a couple of new releases...
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Eh, I respect your opinion Brent, but Tipton is probably a top 5 all time guitarist for me. His solos are out of this world in terms of technique, phrasing and just how he puts things together and note choices. I agree with the improvising aspect, but that's not what he's about for me. It's probably why this is the only real instrumental track he ever did.
We're really not disagreeing all that much and he is right up there (not Top 10 but not too far off) for me too. I like a lot of his note choices and phrasing in the JP songs - I just don't think he has the musical ideas (in a lead guitar sense) to carry full instrumental tracks. Like you say..............likely the reason he never really goes there even on solo albums.
That's all good. I for one always would have like to hear more instrumental stuff based on this song, but that's tastes for you.
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As Brent says, it takes a special kind of skill to make instrumental music interesting over a full album. I love Glenn but don't see him in this category. Songwriter and soloist, yeah, but not as an instrumentalist. Not heard this track but will give it a go.
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song sent
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6 in already..........hoping to get all songs in before the end of the weekend
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I'll send something tonight.
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Sent.
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I'll send something in the morning Brent.
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I'll send something in the morning Brent.
It is morning! ;D
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Sent a love song.
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I'll send something in the morning Brent.
It is morning! ;D
It is now, and sent!
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I'll send something tonight.
So another one tonight ? :biggrin:
3 to go........
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I shall send immediately.
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I shall send immediately.
make this post in my roulette thread :tup
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I shall send immediately.
make this post in my roulette thread :tup
if this is immediate then good luck with your 24 hrs :biggrin:
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I have lag. Sent.
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I have lag. Sent.
I have djent lag :neverusethis:
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H0pe y0u enj0y 0t, br0.
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I have 11 of 12 now so will start listening...........a very diverse and interesting group of songs by the looks.
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I'll send in a few good sir
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No worries king - I make allowances for the extra duties that come with being a monarch.
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No worries king - I make allowances for the extra duties that come with being a monarch.
And that it took me a full day to get back to feeling normal. Damn tailgating at American Football games. :lol
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I'm a couple of listens in - hoping to have some teasers up Monday and results Tuesday.
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Some teasers:
" I found the plodding verses a touch repetitive throughout the song , but on the other hand it is only second to ######'s song this round in terms of songwriting "
"strong vocals which is always a great start but in the end I found the music a little on the bland side , a bit keyboard heavy and not quite varied enough to hold my attention fully for ? minutes"
" The deceptively simple little guitar lick (it’s barely long enough to be called a “lick”) over the top of the lovely keyboards is very effective "
"it took me a while to think who they remind me of most and I think it’s Autograph"
"I feel guilty ranking this up there near the top three songs , but we’re ranking on enjoyment mostly and occasionally a mega cheesy “by the numbers” song like this will still grab me , despite my best instincts :lol "
"I enjoyed this.........it’s very straight ahead bluesy hard rock (not unlike early KISS in terms of the groove and guitar sound) with some NWOBHM elements to the vocals especially"
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" The deceptively simple little guitar lick (it’s barely long enough to be called a “lick”) over the top of the lovely keyboards is very effective "
"I feel guilty ranking this up there near the top three songs , but we’re ranking on enjoyment mostly and occasionally a mega cheesy “by the numbers” song like this will still grab me , despite my best instincts :lol "
These two may be mine, but I'm not sure about this guitar lick thing and I don't think my song is "mega cheesy" and "by the numbers", so yeah, no idea.
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A couple of quotes in there give me hope. Sounding like Autograph isn't a great thing :biggrin: and NWBHM vocals were generally poor and along with the often poor production stopped me getting into many of the bands.
Of those comments worryingly only the top one could be mine I think :-\
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Dunno if mine is there to be honest.
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"strong vocals which is always a great start but in the end I found the music a little on the bland side , a bit keyboard heavy and not quite varied enough to hold my attention fully for ? minutes"
Could be mine.
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" The deceptively simple little guitar lick (it’s barely long enough to be called a “lick”) over the top of the lovely keyboards is very effective "
"I feel guilty ranking this up there near the top three songs , but we’re ranking on enjoyment mostly and occasionally a mega cheesy “by the numbers” song like this will still grab me , despite my best instincts :lol "
These two may be mine, but I'm not sure about this guitar lick thing and I don't think my song is "mega cheesy" and "by the numbers", so yeah, no idea.
If mine is in the group of quotes, it's one of these.
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"it took me a while to think who they remind me of most and I think it’s Autograph"
"I feel guilty ranking this up there near the top three songs , but we’re ranking on enjoyment mostly and occasionally a mega cheesy “by the numbers” song like this will still grab me , despite my best instincts :lol "
"I enjoyed this.........it’s very straight ahead bluesy hard rock (not unlike early KISS in terms of the groove and guitar sound) with some NWOBHM elements to the vocals especially"
One of these is mine. Hopefully not the Autograph one.
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Poor Autograph :lol
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Saw them open for VH in 1984. If you feel bad for them now, you would've really felt bad for them then. Practically booed off the stage. It was brutal. NO ONE wanted anything to do with them. :lol
Bring on Van Halen!!! :metal
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They were pretty average.
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I don't think I know any Autograph songs.
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The lead singer's hair looked like Rosanna Roseannadanna.
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I don't think I know any Autograph songs.
Sorry to do this, but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU
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I don't think I know any Autograph songs.
Sorry to do this, but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU
I've heard a couple of new songs which sounded pretty good but their original output wasn't great.
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I didn't think they were all that bad for 1984..........and I'd still rather listen to that than 99% of today's pop :angel:
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I don't think I know any Autograph songs.
Sorry to do this, but..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8CcTYsMHYU
Oh yeah, I've heard that one. Pretty fucking terrible, and I don't mind a bit of 80's cheese.
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I will take Autograph off the wolfking roulette playlist.
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I will take Autograph off the wolfking roulette playlist.
Sounds like a man that wants to win!
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I will take Autograph off the wolfking roulette playlist.
Sounds like a man that wants to win!
or a man who has cut a terrible playlist down to a smaller , terrible playlist :lol
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I will take Autograph off the wolfking roulette playlist.
Sounds like a man that wants to win!
or a man who has cut a terrible playlist down to a smaller , terrible playlist :lol
Brent, if your playlist for consists consisted of that song and songs like it, I'll be very disappointed mate. :lol I'm expecting big things brother.
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I was initially a bit underwhelmed with this round but thankfully pretty much everything grew on me ; even the worst song of the round was solid. There is a big group of songs in the middle ground with scores around 8 that fall into the “quality song but very generic” category. The top 4 or 5 were clearly the best and it took me some time to get the scores to the point where I thought they were reflective of the quality/enjoyment factor of the song but also with an appropriate spacing in ratings between them. I have given a couple of tens , more because I thought they deserved a clearly better score than the 9's than thinking they were perfect. I am happy with how I have rated things to achieve the desired effect but in hindsight I think I would go for a score out of 100 (or even 20) to allow more room to step ratings.
1) Fish : Cliche – Evermind Rating:10
I have never really got into the Marillion catalogue in depth but I am aware of Fish and the debate over the eras of the band. But essentially I am coming into this song with little knowledge of the guy. I can’t say that his vocal strikes me as being particularly full of raw talent but as we know from other guys that “talk-sing” or have a low key delivery (Knopfler/Gilmour for instance) it can be the character of the voice that matters and provides a vehicle for the magic of the music. And although the guitar sounds nothing like Knopfler I do hear the same sort of lush soundscapes that are the mark of prime time atmospheric Dire Straits. The deceptively simple little guitar lick (it’s barely long enough to be called a “lick”) over the top of the lovely keyboards is very effective and the end result is a lovely,moody and atmospheric ballad with some nice lyrics. It sounds fantastic too with every instrument (incl bass) crystal clear.
2) Odyssey “ Amon-Ra – Big Hath Rating : 10
You have probably noticed me use the word “plodder” as a derogatory term towards music a number of times. As a general rule if there are good melodies involved I love soft slow music , I love fast heavy music but I generally struggle with slow heavy (doomy) music (esp when downtuned) and this track has elements of that. It plods along for the first couple of minutes (juuuuust pacy enough to avoid annoying me), admittedly with some nice melodies , but it did really need the change up at that 2 minute mark for my sake. There were also plenty of elements of this song that I immediately liked though – the Saharan/Middle Eastern edge to the melodies ,the instrumental change ups etc.....esp the keyboards near the end. The lyrics (something I normally don’t really notice) were also interesting and brought to mind one of my favourite songs (Ten’s Pharoah’s Prelude/Wait For You) .
Initially I found the plodding verses a touch repetitive throughout the song , but on the other hand it is only second to Evermind’s song this round in terms of songwriting ........the change ups/progressive nature elevated the song greatly and it's one of the few songs this round with any real character/originality. It was a big grower and over repeated listens the quality of songwriting won me over properly and so you achieve a 10 and 2nd favourite of the round.
3) Coldspell: Night Falls – wolfking Rating: 9
This was quite a grower – on first listen I had this in the “generic” basket with many of the others in this round but on subsequent listens the strong song writing here began to reveal itself. Nice melodies from a band that I had checked out through samples and not bothered with – I am now reconsidering that assessment :)
4) Reverence: Gods of War – Lowdz Rating: 9
This is a much easier listen than the first few songs – bread and butter for me and I like this a lot more than I should to be honest . I feel guilty ranking this up there near the top three songs , but we’re ranking on enjoyment mostly and occasionally a mega cheesy “by the numbers” song like this will still grab me , despite my best instincts :lol
This is another upcoming release submitted by Paul and something I likely would’ve got in coming days. Given the line up (esp Doc from Savatage) I was right on to their debut but didn’t end up buying as what I sampled didn’t grab me. This song certainly has nice hooks but it’s pretty close to as generic as power metal gets both musically and lyrically...............somehow I still really enjoyed it though :lol I would equate this to something I would expect from Axel Rudi Pell ......even down to the rhythm guitar tone . I was expecting more from these guys in terms of song writing – it needed a strong vocal performance to make it and I got it .
5) Lucifer’s Friend: Cool Hand Killer – TAC Rating: 9
Despite often struggling with what I would call the “70’s sound” I enjoyed this.........it’s very straight ahead bluesy hard rock (not unlike early KISS in terms of the groove and guitar sound) with some NWOBHM elements to the vocals especially. Some nice fiery rhythm guitars/fills in there added some spark to the song. Soundwise I would’ve guessed mid –late 70’s rather than early 80’s but that rawness doesn’t detract from it – possibly adds to it in this style. Funnily enough I first came across this band only this year when I saw their recent retrospective album and then I started to put the pieces together with the Uriah Heep connection etc...
6) Beyond The Black: Hallelujah – Bolsters Rating:8.5
Like Reverence and Coldspell this is a band that I checked out early days and decided that they were good but nothing special. This song doesn’t dissuade me from that view when compared to the best of bands like Within Temptation and Nightwish but it was definitely a good listen and not unlike the style of Within Temptation’s The Unforgiving. The opening riff...........that guitar tone?.........pretty much taken from Allen/Lande playbook but that’s where those similarities end. I can’t say that the limited use of growls added anything for me , but there wasn’t enough of it to annoy me too much either. To me this is a strong song but still pretty run of the mill symphonic power metal
7) Guardian : I’ll Never Leave You – jjrock88 Rating: 8.5
This is a nice enough song jj but like many songs in this round it’s pretty generic stuff musically and lyrically. I am actually a fan of Guardian and Jamie Rowe’s voice and this is one I never got around to finding – Fire and Love is a great album and an old favourite though. Solid track with a nice solo section........that nice heavy solo section was likely the difference between an 8 and 8.5
8) Seals and Crofts: Summer Breeze – splent Rating: 8.5
The start of this made me think an episode of Law and Order was about to start or something :lol I do of course know this song and once again mate you are testing the limits of my wimpiness here – and I could almost swear Cat Stevens is singing here :) Nice and melodic with a quality of songwriting that deserves a good mark but not quite getting the marks seen in the last round for the soft 70’s rock as I liked those a touch better.
9)Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe : Order of the Universe – erwinrafael Rating: 8
I should give you a bonus point for sending the most Yes related music in the history of roulettes mate – I’ve lost count :lol Another nice listen here erwin – strong vocals which is always a great start but in the end I found the music a little on the bland side , a bit keyboard heavy and not quite varied enough to hold my attention fully for 9 minutes. Trim some fat off the song and it might have rated a bit higher.
Speaking of the vocals it shows what a fine line things can be with me. I hear quite a bit of Geddy Lee in his voice (who I don’t like as a singer) and yet Jon Anderson’s vocals seems to connect with me for some reason.........just that little bit of extra power/edge to it I think.
10) T.O. Joker – Live It Up – jingle.boy Rating: 8
Pretty much copy and past most of the above here too. Quality but pretty generic melodic rock............it took me a while to think who they remind me of most and I think it’s Autograph(mostly the vocals) . You get some kudos for sending something good that is very rare though :tup
11) REd House : Shudder To THink – kingshmegland Rating 8
This is quite catchy alternative pop rock king and I did enjoy the listen but there wasn’t anything in the melodies or the playing that really stood out to me and demanded a rating > 8. If only I wasn’t an Unruly Child fan you might’ve been up for a 10/10 :lol
12) Destiny Potato – Indifferent – Sacul Rating: 8
Did I mention i have permanent djent lag? :lol As soon as I heard that dissonant down tuned stuff opening this track I really wanted to switch off stat.........this sort of music is up there with rap in terms of my least favourite ,as exemplified by by sub-5 rating for Animals As Leaders (the only super low mark in the whole roulette). Thankfully though the djenty aspects were used much more sparingly than expected in what is overall a fairly melodic song with some more than passable female vocals. About double the score I was expecting for you after the first 20 seconds :lol.
So..........round 10 is complete and where do we go from there?
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What would a metalhead’s roulette be without taking it "over the cliff" and up to 11 eh ? :metal
I will write up some concluding remarks for everyone at the end of the roulette but for now it’s where we say a big thank you and sayonara to the bottom six. You guys really have been a ripping group for a roulette as there has been a great mix between familiar music that I have missed and those pushing the boundaries of my taste.
Standings as at the end of the regular competition rounds below:
FINALISTS
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+8.5+8.5+9+10 = 73.5
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5+9 +10+9+9=73.5
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5+9.5+9 +9+10=73.5
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5+9.5+9+10+8.5=73
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9+8.5+9+8.5+8.5= 72
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5+8.5 +9+9.5+9= 70.5
ELIMINATED
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5+9.5+8.5+9 =68.5
erwinrafael 9.5+7.5+10 +7+9+7.5+9+8=67.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5+7.5+9+8=66.5
splent 9+8+8.5+8+8+7+9+8.5= 66
Sacul 9+9+7.5+8.5 +9.5+7+7.5+8=66
kingshmegland 8+8.5+9 +7.5+7+7.5+7+7.5= 62
I decided that I didn’t want to zero off the scores for the final but I might as well have with half a point separating the top four. And there’s only 3 points between any of the finalists – so with Rd 11 scored out of 20 you are all in with a show here. Paul is going to have to kill it ,but still in there.
As specified earlier we are after a “20 min EP” – 18 minutes as a minimum and I will allow up to 25mins as long as no song BEGINS after the 20 min mark. The number of songs, genres etc....are up to you but each song on the EP must be from a different artist. And as I have mentioned previously , focus on good songs rather than how the songs flow etc..... good flow/album experience might be enough to break a draw if the songs are neck and neck but otherwise the songs win the day.
Hopefully it won't happen but If there is a tie at the end of Rd 11 we will have a one song tiebreaker.......no scores - the song I like best wins.
I don't have a great feel for how prepared you guys are for Rd 11 ............is a cutoff date for entries of Friday okay - as per our regular timeframes - or would you like some extra time (end of the weekend)?
Banned bands
Al Di Meola
Almah
America
Amorphis
Anathema
Angelica
Angels of Babylon
Apple Pie
Ayreon
A.C.T
Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe
Animals As leaders
Bent Knee
Beyond The Black
Big Wreck
Binary Creed
Black Majesty
Blackfield
Blondie
Blind Guardian
Buckethead
Burnclear
Cans
Chaos Frame
Coheed and Cambria
Coldspell
Cryonic Temple
Dada
Damnation Angels
Dead End
Death
Destiny Potato
Disturbed
Down
Evil Masquerade
Fish
FOghat
Glenn Tipton
Guardian
Haken
Harlequin
Haven
Heavenly
Holst
Holy Shite
I Mother Earth
Ice Age
Inglorious
Iron Maiden
Jimi Hendrix
Jon Lord
Karnya
Last Crack
Lucifer's Friend
Mandroid Echostar
Mark Knopfler
Marketa Irglova
Max Webster
Mr Mister
My Soliloquy
Myland
Mystery
Nazareth
Need
Odd Dimension
Odyssey
Opeth
Orphaned Land
Pablo Cruise
Pain of Salvation
Pandora's Box
Portishead
Primal Fear
Queen
Queensryche
Reverence
Rick Wakeman
Riverside
Saint
Seals and Crofts
Sebastien
Seven tears
Shineback
Shudder To Think
Sieges Even
Spock’s Beard
Skid Row
Stargate
Steven Wilson
Stream of Passion
Steely Dan
Steve Vai
The Black Mages
The Blitz
The Mob
The Moody Blues
The Neal Morse Band
The Pineapple Thief
The Sacrificed
The Hsu Nami
Theodore Ziras
Throne of Chaos (TOC)
T O Joker
TRemonti
UFO
U.K.
Unisonic
Vicious Rumors
Voodoo Circle
Warmachine
X Japan
Yanni
Yes
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This song was the one I was initially saving for the Finals, but had to sent it a bit earlier to ensure I've got a good position before the Finals. That worked out just alright. Glad you liked it Brent!
I'm flying to another town due to work tomorrow (Wednesday) morning and won't be back until Saturday evening, so I'll try to arrange and send my EP today. I've got one 6 minutes long song I'm sure of, one 5 minutes long song I'm 80% sure of, and with that Fish song out of the way, I've got to find something else to send.
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I've been paroled!!! ;D
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each song on the EP must be from a different artist.
Yeah, I didn't actually realise that. I just went through the thread and the only place it's specifically mentioned is a random response to erwin on page 6 which is why I probably missed it. That definitely throws a wrench into my single-band EP playlist. :rollin
Not sure what you'll get now Brent. I'm probably going to have to scrape the barrel a bit for this.
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each song on the EP must be from a different artist.
Yeah, I didn't actually realise that. I just went through the thread and the only place it's specifically mentioned is a random response to erwin on page 6 which is why I probably missed it. That definitely throws a wrench into my single-band EP playlist. :rollin
Not sure what you'll get now Brent. I'm probably going to have to scrape the barrel a bit for this.
As you know it's not unusual for the rules for any finals to be held back until after the regular rounds .....anything I posted up til now was just to get the basics out there and tbh I assumed that it was pretty much a given that an EP round would preclude a run of songs all from the same artist. Only reason I mentioned it was to make sure there was no confusion. Apologies if I have stuffed you up there.
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YES TIED FOR NOT LAST!! :metal
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As you know it's not unusual for the rules for any finals to be held back until after the regular rounds .....anything I posted up til now was just to get the basics out there and tbh I assumed that it was pretty much a given that an EP round would preclude a run of songs from the same artists. Only reason I mentioned it was to make sure there was no confusion. Apologies if I have stuffed you up there.
No it's fine, at first I actually thought you held it back on purpose to trip us up - it wasn't until I looked back that I realised you had mentioned it outright once, and hinted to it a couple of times. I just clearly was not paying attention, no apology necessary.
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Time to get the popcorn, hit the couch and watch the battle.
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I can send later today
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I've been paroled!!! ;D
You and me on house arrest together!
Good luck to the finalists.
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Way better than the 5 I expected, yay! I think you'd enjoy the album a lot - quite a straightforward, catchy and melodic approach to djent.
Thanks for hosting this and letting me make you feel nervous with some of my odd entries :lol
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I've been paroled!!! ;D
You and me on house arrest together!
We're both guilty of sucking in this roulette!
TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5+9.5+8.5+9 =68.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5+7.5+9+8=66.5
Of course the only score that really matters! ;D
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each song on the EP must be from a different artist.
Yeah, I didn't actually realise that. I just went through the thread and the only place it's specifically mentioned is a random response to erwin on page 6 which is why I probably missed it. That definitely throws a wrench into my single-band EP playlist. :rollin
Not sure what you'll get now Brent. I'm probably going to have to scrape the barrel a bit for this.
Yeah I missed that too which has thrown a huge spanner in the works. Had three songs from one artist lined up as I couldn't decide which to cut. Now I got a cut two.
I had Fish lined up to send but never got around to it though. Was probably going to go for Vigil or Bid Wedge. I've never really liked Cliche.
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I've never liked Vigil or Big Wedge, whereas Cliche is my favourite from the album. Tastes.
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Sorry for a double post, but damn, I'm at 25:54 right now. Cuts incoming...
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EP sent
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And I sent too, 5 songs in my EP. Hopefully none will get rejected.
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TAC 9+8.5+8+8.5+7.5+9.5+8.5+9 =68.5
jingle.boy 8.5+8.5+8.5+8 +8.5+7.5+9+8=66.5
Of course the only score that really matters! ;D
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I'll probably get mine in tomorrow. Still gotta find a couple more songs.
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No worries............I have a couple in so far but it'll take me a bit of time to get mp3 together into a format I am happy with and read any info sent along with the songs.
There will likely be about double the normal amount of songs this round and I am going to listen to these in a couple of different ways (scrambled for initial rating of songs to be as random as I can + then bring them back into their groups for fine tuning) - so I will allow 7 days listening for this round instead of the usual 3 or 4.
So assuming we get everything in late this week , you can expect final results late next week.
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I went through and made a bunch of notes last night before I went to bed, and I intend to sort through and pick out an EP's worth from there today.
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I think I have the songs picked out. Want to give everything one more listen tomorrow.
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Just gave my EP one more listen, and I'm pretty confident in what I sent. Love every song there. Looking forward to the results.
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One more track required, sent for checking, then I'll be ready to send.
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Ok, sent.
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I have (almost) 5 of the 6 Rd 11 submissions...........you're still short a song (or two) I think Paul. I have received two.
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I've been flat out Brent, but I'll get something to you late tonight mate.
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I've been flat out Brent, but I'll get something to you late tonight mate.
That's fine ..........no rush.
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rush is banned etc.
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obvious joke is obvious.
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obvious joke is obvious.
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Got 'em Paul.............thanks.
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Got 'em Paul.............thanks.
Yeah, first email was rejected at your end for being too large. Good job I wasn't sending one 20 minute song.
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All in thanks guys..................let the :metal begin.
27 songs in all - yikes. I will aim for results next Friday earliest but if it's close I might leave it til Sunday to be sure, to be sure.
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Yep glad you got them mate. Not too confident and just sent 5 random songs really. Really scraping the bottom of the barrel here. Lucky it's the last round. :lol
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Well after a listen (or two in some cases) all I can say is that you guys have done well and it's going to be a close call. There's not a great number of 9+ scores in there I'm thinking but at this stage I can't see anything I have received scoring less than a 7.5 either. The sort of grouping I was hoping not to get :lol
I will be rating in increments of 0.25 to try and get a bit more staggering of results......and then of course converted to a score out of 20. Any rounding may be affected by the "flow" of the EP but in the end the song ratings will be the main determining factor.
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kind of how I figured it would be. Solid group of gents here.
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I will be rating in increments of 0.25 to try and get a bit more staggering of results......and then of course converted to a score out of 20. Any rounding may be affected by the "flow" of the EP but in the end the song ratings will be the main determining factor.
That's cool. I would be surprised if people did have 9+ songs left too. :lol
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kind of how I figured it would be. Solid group of gents here.
Even without me and Tim. :neverusethis:
That's cool. I would be surprised if people did have 9+ songs left too. :lol
I never had any to begin with! :neverusethis:
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I would be surprised if people did have 9+ songs left too. :lol
If I had to guess, I'd say that my songs are going to get 7.5, 8, and 8.5.
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kind of how I figured it would be. Solid group of gents here.
Even without me and Tim. :neverusethis:
we finally got rid of the riff raff :lol
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kind of how I figured it would be. Solid group of gents here.
Even without me and Tim. :neverusethis:
we finally got rid of the riff raff :lol
Not sure if I'm riff, or raff.
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kind of how I figured it would be. Solid group of gents here.
Even without me and Tim. :neverusethis:
we finally got rid of the riff raff :lol
Not sure if I'm riff, or raff.
You're raff - not enough riffs :lol
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:lol
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I was holding most of these back for a final I may not have got to! Two of them were in my first list of selections I sent to Brent and were shoe ins.
If flow is being considered I hope you got my order right, though I do have a lot to make up :)
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I was holding most of these back for a final I may not have got to! Two of them were in my first list of selections I sent to Brent and were shoe ins.
Damn, that's a concern.
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I was holding most of these back for a final I may not have got to! Two of them were in my first list of selections I sent to Brent and were shoe ins.
Damn, that's a concern.
Not from Brent's notes so far! :biggrin:
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I was holding most of these back for a final I may not have got to! Two of them were in my first list of selections I sent to Brent and were shoe ins.
Damn, that's a concern.
Not from Brent's notes so far! :biggrin:
Good point.
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I think with these .25 scores, anything can happen in the finals
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I'm counting on at least one 9+ score for me (because I sent a song from a very well known band and a lot of their songs are worth 9+) but I'm actually hoping for two of these. Anyway, I think all my songs are great.
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there's been a run on these!
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I'm counting on at least one 9+ score for me (because I sent a song from a very well known band and a lot of their songs are worth 9+) but I'm actually hoping for two of these. Anyway, I think all my songs are great.
Of course you do. All of my songs were great too.
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Yup, so were mine!
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I'm counting on at least one 9+ score for me (because I sent a song from a very well known band and a lot of their songs are worth 9+) but I'm actually hoping for two of these. Anyway, I think all my songs are great.
Of course you do. All of my songs were great too.
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Well I'm tied for the first place, so don't be surprised I'm counting on my great songs a bit more than on yours. ;)
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Well I'm tied for the first place, so don't be surprised I'm counting on my great songs a bit more than on yours. ;)
Sometimes there's no accounting for tastes. ;) :P
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I have spent today listening to my favourite 8 or 9 tracks and getting them ranked and rated with some degree of certainty. I think I can say a couple of things at this point:
1) Of the 27 songs there will be between 5 and 7 songs that score 9 or better.
2) At this early point it seems consistency across the 20 mins might win the day (ie the eventual winner may not even have one of the top 3 songs)
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Can't wait to see the songs and the rankings!
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Interesting
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SHOCKING development!
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SHOCKING development!
Shocks for Mr Hath can be arranged if required :lol Just letting you know the wheels are in motion :P
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I've done enough listening now to know that I can commit to results on Friday (the earlier end of the timeframe I gave).
It's going to be damn close and if I procrastinate beyond Friday it'll just get ridiculous.............and I have 3 or 4 of your roulettes to try and prepare for ;D I have given each song between 4-7 listens at this point and it'll be up to 7-10 by Friday
Low end rating 7.75
Highest rating 9.5
they won't be changing.
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Bring it on.
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You have good reason to be confident the way you're travelling in roulettes at the moment - in fact you're pretty good for a bloke who has nothing to send ;D
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Yeah yeah I know, I'm full of shit. :lol
Surprised myself and rediscovered and discovered some good shit. These roulettes are win on so many levels haha.
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Yeah I went into this thinking I had almost nothing myself, but Brent turned out to be a lot easier to please than I was expecting.
I also rediscovered a few things I haven't listened to in years, it was fun going through all of my old crap looking for things to send, and thinking "Why haven't I listened to this in so many years" or "Why the hell did I even buy this?" :lol
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I wouldn't say easier than expected, but there was definitely more stuff for use at my disposal than I expected. Not by much though.
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but Brent turned out to be a lot easier to please than I was expecting.
Methinks this isn't the first time Brent's been told this. :zydar:
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I told you too much in the Rate My Haul thread I think ;D
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I've found it pretty difficult to send quality stuff you haven't got. It's been good though. As others have said I've had a listen to stuff I haven't played in a while. Years even, with one of my ep entries.
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Yeah..........it can force the participants out of their comfort zone as much as the host. For example I have been scouring my dance and rap collection in preparation for the Bolsters roulette ........it took me 5 minutes to realise I don't have one and so I might need to ask Chad for some help ;D
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Dance and rap collection lol
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I'll have to remember to put Animotion on my banned list.
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Nearly sent you some country...
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I have a feeling both 9.5 and 7.75 are mine, which means my EP isn't that great in terms of consistency - and consistency seems to be a winner thing in this round.
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I'll have to remember to put Animotion on my banned list.
Don't worry, I can dig deeper.
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One final listen now guys........so 3 hours or so away from results.
My final post (on preview now) is too big for DTF to handle :metal so it'll be split across two posts.
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Let's get it on.
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I love you.
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I love you.
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“Sorry to have taken so long...........it must’ve been a bitch while I was gone “ - Paul Stanley :biggrin:
I finally got there folks!
Thanks for all your final round submissions – I appreciate the amount of thought and time that went into them . As our Aussie boxing legend Jeff Fenech used to say “I luv yez all” and so it’s tough to pick one winner but we’ve got to that point and there is a winner. Like Chad’s it was unbelievably close . Each song has had at least 10 listens and I am getting a bit sick of the “album” now and so it’s time to draw a line under this. I slightly underestimated the task in ranking 27 diverse songs in one round but we got to a point where I am comfortable with them. I also thought that having a 20 point final round would make a clear winner easier to decide – wrong! ::)
My stack rankings change each day to some extent (which is one reason why I prefer to rate) but I am confident in the groupings around each ranking – that’s where I put most of my focus.........there needs to be a clear difference in my enjoyment of the songs in each rating group and , now that I have settled on that I am quite happy.
I have really concentrated on shutting my eyes, absorbing the music and then grouping how much I enjoyed the various songs , rather than taking them to pieces and analysing them to death , so in many cases the comments are reasonably brief. Unlike the comprehensive track by track review of the new Dream Theater album (imaginary) in the DT 13 thread..........gotta love DTF.
Groupings below...............we ended up with a few more 9+ scores than I originally indicated as there was a few growers .
Groupings:
9.5: Driver , Avantasia
9.25 Zar, Bullet For My Valentine, I Am I,Kerzner,
9 Malpractice, Black Tora,
8.75 Arwen, Beyond Fear, Leverage, Dio, Saga,
8.5 Land of Tales ,Bride, Final Frontier, Gamma Ray, Mastodon, Whitecross, Phideaux,Aenimus, Edenbridge
8.25 Phantom’s Opera, Neon Cross, Rhapsody
7.75 Ian Anderson
Evermind
1.Axel Rudi Pell : The Guillotine Suite (intro) (1:52) Rating = N/A
I don’t tend to count intros etc.... in my album ratings – if it’s amazing and will improve the album rating (rare) then I might but otherwise I don’t feel an intro should detract from an album rating and so I have not individually rated this. Quite a nice intro for the EP though and sets up the Avantasia track nicely.
2. Avantasia : Sign Of The Cross (6:26) Rating=9.5
So ............the one and only Avantasia album I don’t have – not sure why that is. You know I would probably prefer Edguy on the whole and am a bit iffy on multi vocalist albums and so here we have a 4 pronged multi vocalist song from a multi vocalist album........ballsy? . I am not going to try and understand all the characters here in the “opera” – it basically comes down to the listening experience for this song . Musically it’s very good and a nice example of the riffier style of power metal that I tend to favour , there are some real nice change ups to keep things interesting and a very melodic , Edguy like chorus. Vocally I thought it was a bit up (mostly) and down (which is why I often struggle with this style) but thankfully the weaker vocals (Matos) weren’t used heavily . I really like Matos in plenty of stuff but here I found his verses briefly drained all the momentum from the song........I didn’t penalise you heavily as it is short lived , it may make more sense in the context of the album, I liked your intro and the chorus is stuck in my head anyway :lol On the whole – very nice power metal that really hit the spot for the most part and a nice change up in the solo section too.
3. Phideaux: Helix (5;54) Rating =8.5
I found this to be a nice , mellow song with a strong jazzy female vocal performance , a haunting keyboard presence and some nice progressive elements. This style possibly isn’t my favourite but for what it is its very good, her vocal tone has a touch of the Floor Jansen’s in it and grew on me quite a bit over multiple listens
4. Ian Anderson : Wooton Bassett Town (3.44) Rating=7.75
Sorry mate...............I know you viewed this as a bit of an ace up your sleeve but it didn’t quite do the same for me. I liked elements of the music here = the folk and the rock elements meshed well , the lyrics and the concept were strong too but for me they didn’t really come together perfectly as a unit. It’s a pleasant track no doubt but I didn’t find myself itching to hear it again........and his voice is just okay. It’s probably just me (I’m one of the few who on DTF that feels meh towards SFAM ) but this really feels like a track off the sort of concept albums that don’t agree with me. The lyrics feel shoehorned into the music .......like “I have written my story/lyric and it is going to be used even if it doesn’t quite suit the music I have written”. You can hear him speeding up/slowing down to make the lyrics fit the music. And this is one of the reasons that I struggle with many concept albums – those with striking individual songs that stand on their own two feet regardless of the concept (Mindcrime/Crimson Idol/Streets) are very few and far between.
5. Gamma Ray : Empathy (5.04) Rating= 8.5
This was a tough one to rate. I have expressed misgivings about Hansen’s songwriting and vocals at various times , but then he has some songs that I love too. In this instance I really liked about half the song (especially the guitar rhythms and solo section) but struggled with the vocals which are very average to say the least, barely in tune at times and really took a lot of the life out of the song for me , especially in the chorus . There were another couple of times (eg....“but I’m sure they are turning AWAY" in what is otherwise a great pre-chorus) where it just sounds unfinished in a songwriting sense. I hear a lot of things that need fixing. It seems like we’re headed for a 6 or 7 here but in the end the overall quality of the majority of the song and the instrumental sections won the day and I still enjoyed it , but with a decent vocalist (he sounds like Andi Deris with tonsilitis) and a tweak here and there it would’ve rated as high as 9.5.
TOTAL: 17.25/20
Bolsters
1. Arwen : Infinity (4.54) Rating= 8.75
Well this one sure has some awful reviews around the traps :lol But I am the only reviewer that matters in this thread and I thought it was quite good. There are some parts of the song that remind me a bit of a less technical Angra (which isn’t a bad thing). This is solid prog power metal that has enough going for it to rate well and the nice solo section added a bit of a boost to the score– the rest of the song though is not quite spectacular enough to attract a 9 but not too far off.
2. Dave Kerzner: The Lie (5.05) Rating=9.25
As everybody knows by now , old style prog rock/neo prog (and early efforts from Floyd etc...) don’t tend to go down well with me and that’s not because I am against that style. It’s just that a lot of bands in that style are either too “pompy” (wimpy) , the prog often detracts from my enjoyment of the song (proggy sections that outlast their welcome and cease to contribute to the song) or just too :hat :hat etc......... This song is a good example of a song of that style that DOESN’T bother me. It has some progressive elements , a bit of that psychedelic Floyd feel about it but it is melodic at all times and has enough edge to it so as not to feel “pompy.” Nice Satriani-esque solo section too and probably the biggest "grower" of the round.
3) Edenbridge: MyEarthDream (12.38) Rating=8.5
Funny the things you remember – many years ago with one of my earliest CD orders from AOR Heaven I received a promo disc for a recently signed band called Edenbridge. I checked it out and thought it was average and that was the end of them for me – I’m not very forgiving :lol I hear a lot of Symphony X in the chugging rhythms here , there’s some really nice orchestration (some of the strings reminded me of the s/t After Forever album which is a fave of mine too) but on the whole I thought it was lacking killer hook/groove (aside from 5.30) to travel the whole 12+ minutes in total comfort. I was drifting a bit at the 8-9 minute mark. it gets an 8.5 as it did have plenty of strong points along the way (her voice and the orchestration, the outro) , but for me it was a few minutes long for the quantity of musical ideas involved.
TOTAL: 17.75/20
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THis is no jingly mind game but I need to rush out for 15 mins.............serious :lol
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THis is no jingly mind game but I need to rush out for 15 mins.............serious :lol
I applaud you for fucking with your participants.
But Avantasia and Dio ... seriously??
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THis is no jingly mind game but I need to rush out for 15 mins.............serious :lol
I applaud you for fucking with your participants.
But Avantasia and Dio ... seriously??
Well the rules were clear and some went the extra mile in terms of trying to pick out albums from well established artists that I may not have. Some said the same about Foghat ;)
Back to the rest of the results.........
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I was worried The Lie wasn't going to connect with you very much, glad I was wrong. :lol
And dafuq? I had no idea any Avantasia stuff was still on the table, that's even more surprising than Primal Fear.
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jjrock88
1. Dio: One More For The Road (3.18) Rating= 8.75
There’s not a great deal I can say about this one – strong , but fairly typical Dio track from one of the couple of Dio albums I don’t own. I definitely prefer his more pacy stuff and this fits the bill nicely.
2. Saga : On The Loose (4.13) Rating= 8.75
I would’ve thought this was a bit too synth pop rock for you JJ :lol I had always written off Saga as too wimpy for me as well but for 1981 this is pretty good for what it is. Some of those keyboard sounds are a bit cringeworthy but I can tell that if I had grown up with this it would sound heavier than coming to it right now where my tastes are the heaviest they have ever been. Having said all that I do like Sadler’s voice better than Geddy Lee and most of the early prog rock singers and I gather this is probably more “single material” for a band that were usually a bit more proggy?
3. Neon Cross: On The Rock (2.35) Rating=8.25
Pretty basic heavy metal here with nice crunchy guitars and some decent vocal acrobatics. At 2.35 they were there for a good time, not a long time....like this comment ;D.
4. Whitecross: He Is The Rock (4.36) Rating= 8.5
Your strategy of serving up a heavy dose of Christian metal has worked well to this point as it’s not the strongest area of my collection (although I have a couple of rippers for your roulette if you don’t have em) , so to see Whitecross here is no surprise. I do like Rex Carroll as a guitarist so that’s a good start , and the song has a nice Ratt vibe but this is pushing the limits to which I can tolerate preaching in my metal. I have an old favourite Christian metal song that is all about preaching the evils of drugs and how you waste your life etc.... and I can handle that . But this one (even for a guy who pays scant attention to lyrics) is just a bit over the top and pretty cheesy to boot.
I mean...............
It's a Friday night I'm ready to party
Getting' down with the guys til half past three
Crusin' for trouble, action for fun
But who's foolin' who we forgot God's Son
That’s a bit much for me. Fortunately the rest of the lyrics ain’t quite so bad and the song does rock , but not quite as much as Jesus :neverusethis: Nice solo as per usual from Rex.
5. Driver: Change of Heart (5.15) Rating: 9.5
I do know this song (I bought this after the roulette started , so allowed and JJ didn’t know that) and it’s a real nice ballad – good to see Mr Rock singing something a bit different too. Simple , melodic , moody and timeless writing in Foreigner style. Good one JJ – not the sort of thing that many (including me) would’ve picked to top the EP round – or for you to send - but sometimes simple works.
TOTAL: 17.5/20
Big Hath
1. Mastodon: Dry Bone Valley (4.00) Rating=8.5
Like Kade you have proven quite adept at picking songs that appeal to me from artists that I may not relate to majorly across their whole catalogue. This has the sort of melodic and rhythmic attributes that I like wrapped up in alternative sounding song.
2. Bride: Everybody Knows My Name (4.22) Rating= 8.5
I have one of Bride’s albums and they always struck me as a 2nd rate GnR but this is actually good , straight ahead hard rock with a singer in the vein of Axl/smiley Pearl/Wildside. This sort of music is always a good listen – it rocks hard with lots of attitude but it’s just missing that killer melody to take it up into the 9’s.
3. Black Tora: Fuel My Hunger (3.20) Rating= 9
Pretty much repeat what I said about Bride , just got me tapping the foot a bit more...........not GnR sounding but a real cool hard rocker with attitude ,a vocalist that can scream and a decent guitar solo.
4. Aenimus: Seven Circles of Hell (3.54) Rating=8.5
I found the riff decent but fairly generic and vocal in the verses quite flat/distant , but the chorus and solo section were catchy/enjoyable and saved it to a large extent.
5. Leverage: Rise/Wolf and the Moon (6.56) Rating=8.75
These guys are always reliable...........they rarely produce anything bad at all , but it can be very samey (a bit like sister band Brother Firetribe). This track (with intro) is from the only album of theirs that I don’t have , and their most recent. It’s fairly typical of their stuff with a huge sound, chorus and nice combination of keys and heavy guitars. In the end I didn’t find enough there that I haven’t heard before to elevate it into the 9’s , although the rhythm change up near the end might just have snagged an extra 0.25. And I didn’t notice those awful lyrics :lol
TOTAL: 17.5/20
Lowdz
1. Zar: Spellbound-Hellbound (5.52) Rating=9.25
This is an interesting one – very familiar in some ways but with enough fresh stuff going on to prick up the ears. And that’s when I start considering ratings in the 9’s- when I hear something I really like that also doesn’t sound exactly like everything else (which implies some more thoughtful song writing, unique vocal etc...). This is nice melodic rock/metal with some pretty decent guitar and vocal work (almost Tate like) in there amongst it too.
2. Phantom’s Opera: Etched In Stone (7.23) Rating=8.25
I think I have told you before that I have So Long To Broadway and thought it was pretty awful. Having Terry Brock on board obviously makes a difference (even though he sounds a bit flat to me) but I just don’t seem to connect with their style totally. For some reason it took a couple of listens for me to pick up on the heavy Purple influence there too – but it’s pretty obvious.. It’s definitely not something I would call bad and I have no aversion to this sort of dramatic vibe but for me there wasn’t enough variety in the melodies to carry a 7.5 minute song and there was no spectacular musicianship/writing to break it up either. The production is a bit rough around the edges too IMO. Having said that this did grow on me and the rating is a bit better than it started out.
3. Rhapsody: Dawn of Victory (4.47) Rating= 8.25
This was a brave submission too given my well documented caution towards double kick drumathon happy style power metal. For what it is this was one of the lesser annoying examples I have heard I suppose but a song like this really has to have something special about it for me to want to listen regularly and unfortunately this one is good but also pretty generic IMHO. I didn’t think Fabio’s vocals were a standout either – good but that’s all.
4. I Am I : This Is My Life (5.52) Rating = 9.25
I quite liked this .........ex Dragonforce singer doing something a bit more melodic and less “out there.” He actually has a Terry Brock tone at times , so it doesn’t surprise me that it’s up your alley Paul. Good song ,especially on the rhythm side of things but the guitar solo was a bit rank which took a little bit of the gloss off and a quarter point(here Brent goes again.......tearing the guitarists a new one :lol )
TOTAL: 17.25/20
wolfking
1. Malpractice: Symmetry (4.11) Rating=9
Kade wasn’t to know but I actually bought this album during the course of the roulette – it was allowed at the start and that’s all that counts. Unfortunately it’s not my favourite from the album but that’s no big deal as I like almost everything on it to some degree. This sound a bit like a less proggy Fates Warning mixed with some Eyewitness (if anyone knows them) and suits me just fine. It ticks boxes for melody, originality and some nice playing – almost perfect symmetry :neverusethis:
2. Land of Tales: Silence (3.27) Rating= 8.5
I was expecting this to be a bit more power metal based on the band name and the opening guitars but it’s really more like AOR with crunchy guitars (and a pretty low rent keyboard sound). I wouldn’t award huge marks for originality but they do have a nice sound and some cool melodies......somewhat familiar actually but I can’t place it which is probably a good thing for you :lol ........Change of Heart perhaps? I can’t say that I am a huge fan of guitar solos that begin with the chorus melody – rather unimaginative , but that’s a minor point. Overall I enjoyed the track but not enough to differentiate it from many others ranked in the 8’s.
3. Beyond Fear : Scream Machine (5.34) Rating= 8.75
I actually thought that Ripper sounded much better live than on the Priest records and here he sounds a bit more like the live Ripper that fucked up my ears :lol This is a nice brutal metal assault on the senses. Again nothing that takes it over the top in terms of melodies or musicianship but a really solid metal track.
4. Final Frontier: Foolish Pride (4.45) Rating=8.5
I have used the word “brave” to describe a couple of submissions and this is no exception. I have mentioned Rob Moratti by name a couple of times in this roulette as an example of “squeaky” vocalists that can annoy me (you missed that I am betting). And here he is squeaking away like a door hinge that needs some oil........funny thing is the dude is a juiced up bodybuilder – maybe there has been some shrinkage :neverusethis:. Speaking to him might be a bit like David Beckham -the voice just ruins the whole vibe :lol Anyway.........this song is pretty standard , but very well done , AOR and in the end his voice does have its own character , even if it is slightly annoying. Luckily we’re rating a song and not an album as I think he would wear thin with me pretty quick over the course of an album. That guitar solo is the sort of jumpy , rhythmic lead work that I like (think Vito Bratta) and added a touch to the score.
5. Bullet For My Valentine: The Last Fight (4.19) Rating=9.25
This was probably brave too as the song does have that modern edge to it that seems to turn me off on most occasions but that hyperactive riffing made up for a lot and the vocalist doesn’t use ridiculous accents on his voice like a lot of modern metal singers . Nothing spectacular here in terms of songwriting or musicianship, just another well written but fairly simple :metal song where all the parts came together nicely and won me over – not unlike Blessed By A Broken Heart’s “Shut Up And Rock” . I have heard songs from them that I think are rubbish but this was a good choice. Another band that has a lot of iffy material in terms of my taste , but which you have managed to pick a good song from. I bet you didn’t think this would be your highest score and bacon saver!
TOTAL: 17.75/20
GRAND FINAL STANDINGS
I basically just converted to a score out of twenty and rounded - the winner would've been the same on raw score.
wolfking 9.5+9.5+9+8.5+9 +10+9+9=73.5+17.75=91.25
Big Hath 9+9+9+8.5+9.5+9 +9+10=73.5+17.5=91
Evermind 10.5+9.5+9+8.5+8.5+8.5+9+10 = 73.5+17.25=90.75
Bolsters 9+9+8.5+9.5+9.5+9+10+8.5=73+17.75=90.75
jjrock88 10+10+8.5+9+8.5+9+8.5+8.5= 72+17.5=89.5
Lowdz 8.5+9.5+9+7.5+8.5 +9+9.5+9= 70.5+17.5=88
Congrats to wolfking............again! He does alright for a guy with no songs to send this fella! Hath, Evermind and Bolsters can all consider themselves very unlucky – it was that tight and it would’ve felt right if either one of you had ended up on top.
And that brings us the to the end of the “impossible” roulette. I would like to thank every one of you for taking part and making the impossible possible. It wasn’t easy I know............most of you had to put in a fair bit of extra time into digging very deep and I genuinely appreciate the big effort involved. Everything about this roulette was BIG :
- the number of participants
- the number of rounds
- the number of songs (esp this round)
- the number of banned artists
- the amount of time you guys put it
- the amount of time I put in (has to be a record for correspondence back and forward), and of course
- Hath has been Big
Despite all of the above I hope that everyone enjoyed themselves and that , for the most part at least , you felt that everything ran smoothly and correspondence was acknowledged and replied to properly etc......I tried to make a point of doing that. We bent some of the usual rules (banning albums rather than artists etc.....and allowing songs that I had heard but didn’t own) but it did make things easier for many of you and allowed some people I wanted in the roulette a chance to participate when they otherwise may not have. Hopefully the first timers didn’t find their initiation too painful.
As I mentioned in the Rd 10 results I couldn’t have asked for a better group than you guys as there was just the right balance of familiarity and diversity in your submissions. Each and every one of you submitted something that scored a 9 and so ...............job done :tup
From my point of view I achieved pretty much everything I wanted to and the format worked well for me at least:
- I had some DTF Faves confirmed as not really my thing , but I also have a few that now require second thoughts
- I have had a few gaps filled in the areas where my collection is really strong – and Kade in particular was great in terms of picking tracks I like from bands that hadn’t interested me based on my sampling
- all of you have introduced me to new bands of interest
- a few of you pushed me into areas I otherwise wouldn’t have pursued and am now inclined to check out further
- JJ has fleshed out my Christian metal catalogue
- I got some nice instrumentals to listen to
- I was reminded of some old artists from my childhood that I really need to revisit
And so on..............hopefully I surprised a few of you with my openness to new things (as long as there was melody there) – I surprised myself a couple of times.
And with that I’ll declare the BL5150 Roulette closed. I can’t see it happening again you’ll be relieved to know :lol I have many hundreds of albums that I have discovered over the last few years that I haven’t even got around to hearing yet , so my focus will be there and sharing some of those hidden gems with you good folk no doubt. If any of you guys get around to doing roulettes yourselves (some already on the way) and think I can contribute then I’ll be happy to take part and return the favour .
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Damn, that is as close a final as I think I've ever seen. Everything is between 17.25 and 17.75. :lol But congrats to Kade once again! You're on a roll dude. :metal
Thanks for having me Brent, this was a lot of fun - one of the best roulettes I've participated in. Just scouring the depths of my collection looking for gems and rediscovering things I'd completely forgotten about was great. Very smoothly run aswell, especially given the size of this roulette and that it's your first. :tup
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Fuck yeah!!!!!! :metal :metal :metal
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I took a punt with BFMV but thought that particular song might have paid off, and it did.
I am really pleased that I was able to win based on sending as much new stuff to Brent as I could. It presented a challenge and I spent quite a lot of time on going through music and I'm happy it paid off.
Great work Brent, even with your vast amount of musical knowledge, I hope there's some stuff we have all sent that you care to discover further. And based on some of the other submissions mate, you've got some holes that need filling also.
Had a blast once again and was great to play with such great people all round. Good stuff.
PS. I did have a real chuckle at Dio and Avantasia too. nice work boys.
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Great work Brent, even with your vast amount of musical knowledge, I hope there's some stuff we have all sent that you care to discover further. And based on some of the other submissions mate, you've got some holes that need filling also.
Not too many..........your turn to have your holes filled shortly ;D
FWIW the artists submitted this round where I already own a fair swag............
Avantasia
Dio
Malpractice
Phantoms Opera
Gamma Ray
Whitecross
Leverage
Driver
A number of the others I had come across in my travels but you can only sample so much and that's where having an informed choice can produce a much better result than my random sampling. The collective musical knowledge in here was very impressive.
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Not too many..........your turn to have your holes filled shortly ;D
Probably not gonna do it that way mate. All completely new stuff for me.
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Damn, that is as close a final as I think I've ever seen. Everything is between 17.25 and 17.75. :lol But congrats to Kade once again! You're on a roll dude. :metal
Thanks for having me Brent, this was a lot of fun - one of the best roulettes I've participated in. Just scouring the depths of my collection looking for gems and rediscovering things I'd completely forgotten about was great. Very smoothly run aswell, especially given the size of this roulette and that it's your first. :tup
Thanks David - the way things are travelling are you likely to be next up after the current group?
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I'll be in Dave's for sure.
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Thanks David - the way things are travelling are you likely to be next up after the current group?
I'm going to hold off until after Christmas, so one or two people will likely be going ahead of me.
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That won't be me unfortunately.
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Fuck!!!!!!
FTFM :lol
I really want to say WTF at someone sending Dio, but I sent Avantasia, so yeah... in the end even that wasn't enough to win in this fine competition. Thank you Brent for running this, I had a blast playing, and congrats Kade once again, it's like you're winning every roulette nowadays. :tup
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Remember peoples, I can't win my own. :tup
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awesome job with this one.
Wolf is the Roulette Wizard!
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
congrats again, wolfy!
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Thanks fellas. Sort of feel a bit weird stealing both wins, but I'll take it. ;D
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Fuck yeah, The Last Fight, definitely the best BFMV song out there. :metal
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In fact, Brent won my roulette by half a point, and here's how he repays me - making me lose by half a point. :lol
But hey, at least it's not by 0.25.
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Fuck yeah, The Last Fight, definitely the best BFMV song out there. :metal
Yeah, it was the logical choice for Brent IMO.
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Well done gents. I'm a bit disappointed in my performance really as my taste and Brent's are pretty much identical, we like and dislike the same things. Unfortunately I think that disadvantaged me as our collections are very similar, in fact Brent's goes deeper than mine :biggrin:
For my final submissions I thought the Rhapsody was a bit of a risk but thought the guitar and orchestration might sway it.
The I am I is a really good album. I was struggling with which song yo send between the first four but felt the opening track represented the album well. I was worried about that solo as I felt it killed the songs momentum a bit too. Seemed it did.
Shame about the Phantoms Opera and again I had the concern you did. It probably does outstay it's welcome and needed another section to change things up or just shortening. Again I felt it represented the album well.
I guess I maybe fell down a bit in trying to represent albums rather than just sending a 'winning' song. I also wanted to try and stay away from bands you know well as the other part of a roulette is to advertise "new" stuff to the host.
Anyway, well done my fellow competitors.
Kade, you are the champ matey. Nice work.
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Thanks Paul. Well played mate. :tup
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Congrats Kade you bastard!
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Thanks Tim! ;D