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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: lonestar on June 22, 2015, 12:26:21 AM
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Inspired by a comment from another thread where npiazza stated....
I know from being in the military that while everything seems cool from the outside, they don't tell you what sucks about it, which is about 90% of what you do.
I immediately understood where it applies to my occupation as well. I'll type out my diatribewhen iI'm on a keyboard, but let's here it.
What parts of your job suck? Especially the ones that no one out of the field would understand?
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This is a very broad grievance, no knowledge of the field required, but my immediate superior basically dislikes the rest of our colleagues (not me, though). So far I've managed to stay out of it quite well, but it's difficult because my superior is the one I'm working with on a day-to-day basis, but all of the colleagues are a lot friendlier, nicer and much more fun to talk to.
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oh boy. where do i start?
first off, i work in the dairy department of a grocery store (stop & shop,) so no glamour here. what you hear is usually true, and frankly, it's not great. the worst part is having a terrible coworker who can't get fired for the shit he does because we're part of union. but other than personal stuff, corporate sucks, closing shifts suck, not getting paid enough sucks, getting called in because your shitty coworker calls out for the third time this month sucks, almost no vacation time sucks, my boss sucks, and most of all, the customers suck.
what i can say about customers, though, is that one nice customer in a sea of shitty customers makes all that other stuff suck less. seriously. if one, just one, person is nice to me, it really sticks out, and i can use that for motivation to just forget everything else, and just do my job. that's all it takes. it also doesn't hurt that pretty much everyone i work with (except that one guy) gets that it sucks, so we all kind of get by together.
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Let's see:
- Upper management is clueless and lazy
- They don't care about the night crew
- There's favoritism
- It took forever to transfer the lazy asshole assistant manager that NOBODY liked because he's buddy buddy with upper management
- Store manager has no backbone
- Worthless employees don't get fired because lazy upper management don't care and don't like grocery manager so they wont work with him.
- Closing manager doesn't enforce rules so baggers and courtesy clerks don't work go backs and when they do, they just stash them everywhere rather than put them where they actually go
- the customers are disgusting, thieving trash
- night crew get's no respect
- night crew is blamed for everything
- the worthless rest of the employees get rewarded for their incompetance.
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In broad strokes, I deal with the general public. And the general public is an idiot.
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There are far more things I hate about my job than I like, so I'll list the things I like to make it easier.
- I walk out at 4:15 every day
- I haven't worked a weekend in two years
- I get five weeks of vacation per year
- Killer salary for a 26 year old
- Matching 401K
- Awesome health insurance
- Ability to work from home if I need to
That being said. I am miserable every second I am in my cubicle and Sunday afternoons and evenings are usually ruined because all I can think about is how much I don't want to go to work the next day.
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As a manager of a site, it's dealing with employees who never hold jobs for long periods and trying to get them to be motivated. It's a low paying job to start here and the job is physical.
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Basically:
In broad strokes, I deal with the general public. And the general public is an idiot.
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dealing with employees who never hold jobs for long periods and trying to get them to be motivated. It's a low paying job to start here...
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I'm never truly off. I manage a hotel and I'm always checking in, I always seem to have issues, big issues when I'm out on vacation. I envy people who come home and don't have to think about work until the next day they work. I always have my job in the back of my mind.
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In broad strokes what sucks about my job is that I don't have one.
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In broad strokes what sucks about my job is that I don't have one.
:lol Same.
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Instead of getting raises I keep getting pay cuts and being told..."Things are tough right now, hang in there and things will get better"
Load of crap.
My boss is a guy that NEVER says "good job". I don't need to be stroked but I am always told when I've screwed something up.
My boss is a HORRIBLE manager of people, and doesn't understand the value of an employee feeling appreciated. After all, I get up everyday to work for him to try and help make his business successful.
I have two vacations coming up in the next couple months. When they are over I am seriously going to look very hard for a new job.
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For the most part I really enjoy my job. I essentially come and go as I please and can work from home whenever I like, as long as I am not missing any project meetings and I'm doing my job....no one questions what I'm doing. That being said...there are a couple things that bug me.
- Pay Increases. They are a percentage across the board. Individual merit is not considered. I work for a Healthcare System of 28,000 employees. Most Years it's only a 1.5% pay increase....they got crazy this year and gave us 3%. Wooo Hooo :metal
- The job I perform starts out paying $15k more in a different division of the company. I'm in Asset management, on the Construction side someone doing what I do is making that much more. There's an open position on the Construction side and I've applied for it...it'd be sweet to grab that spot!
- Understaffed. Our Management prides themselves on the fact that they've never had to lay anyone off or fire anyone when the inevitable cuts roll around and that's due to the fact that we all are essentially doing the work of three people. It's nice and all having job security but I basically spend my days taking care of whichever person or company is screaming the loudest that day. It's non stop putting out fires that wouldn't be there if we had an extra team or two to help out rather than be slammed out the :censored continually.
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Having to hear other people talk about the most mundane, trivial silliness every morning. "Oh my God, Did you watch Some Awful Sitcom last night!" This company would be much better to work for if I worked here by myself.
Frank nailed it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvh2vxfQNxY)
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Having to hear other people talk about the most mundane, trivial silliness every morning. "Oh my God, Did you watch Some Awful Sitcom last night!" This company would be much better to work for if I worked here by myself.
Frank nailed it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvh2vxfQNxY)
So what your saying is...you missed last nights episode of Mike and Molly?
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I notice that "management" always blows, but interestingly, the people saying that are never actually IN management.
I guess I've been lucky; with one exception, I've always had not just good, but great bosses. I haven't always liked the decisions management has made, but I understand them. I've also learned over time, that it is unreasonable to expect that management is going to blow up their numbers or metrics over one employee. Finally, in my experience, it is usually the case that third parties don't view an individual's performance the same way they do themselves.
I don't have much to complain about; I work out of the house. Sometimes I wish I was in the thick of it in an office, to get the scuttlebutt, but usually when I get in there (I am there this week, by coincidence) I usually remember exactly why I'm not.
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Well said about the management thing, Stadler.
I may not agree with the guys above me all the time but I totally get where they are coming from most of the time.
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I notice that "management" always blows, but interestingly, the people saying that are never actually IN management.
I guess I've been lucky; with one exception, I've always had not just good, but great bosses. I haven't always liked the decisions management has made, but I understand them. I've also learned over time, that it is unreasonable to expect that management is going to blow up their numbers or metrics over one employee. Finally, in my experience, it is usually the case that third parties don't view an individual's performance the same way they do themselves.
I don't have much to complain about; I work out of the house. Sometimes I wish I was in the thick of it in an office, to get the scuttlebutt, but usually when I get in there (I am there this week, by coincidence) I usually remember exactly why I'm not.
So a kid that is always a no call/no show shouldn't be written up or fired? Baggers shouldn't do there jobs and shop the store before they go, but just clown around until their shift is up? I realize I'm in a ghetto store, but the lack of actual management is inexcusable. The store managers simply don't care. But you bet they'll jump down the night crew's throat for every little thing.
Management requires a ton of responsibility, but it's not an excuse for ignoring piss poor job performances.
The funny thing is, the store I used to work at has a manager that DOES care and IS very strict, and everyone hates him for it. People suck.
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What sucks about my job is that I'm not rich.
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My gripe is the same that probably a lot of Microsoft employees have. Working for a large-ish company that was a trailblazer in the late 90s and early 2000s, but then squandered it with in-fighting (5 groups redoing the same task etc) and total lack of direction. Now we've been solidly overtaken by competitors.
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I rather enjoy my job. I'm part of a crew in a shoe company's warehouse who sends shoes out to that company's shops. I like the people, the other two guys in my band also work there, and the job itself is pretty descent. The problem right now is that they don't want to hire people, as in properly hiring them, so there's loads of people who work week to week, not knowing if they have a job next monday. This is including myself, which I think is really unfair since I am one of those who have been there the longest and I have really worked hard. But I'm in a better posotion now, as I have worked a certain number of days, after which they have to call me back every time they need someone new, so my position there is fairly stable at the moment and has been for the past few months.
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My editor is an evil, soul-crushing, ego-smashing succubus; but I love her anyway.
My publishing company is comprised of hoards of blood sucking vampires; but I wouldn't be where I am without them.
My agent should be named Renfield, because it seems that most of the time he secretly is working for my publishing company and trying to find ways to allow them to feast off of me. But I desperately need him, and trust him (most of the time... :) ) completely.
My fans are wonderful, life affirming, saintly beings who will surely spend eternity in the heavens of their choice; until they start criticizing what I do; or think we're best friends, or think that they "know me".
My critics are mind numbing, inbred, talent-less fuckwads who deserve nothing less than slow painful torture for the rest of their miserable and pathetic lives.
My brain is constantly generating a million ideas, most of which are utterly boring, dreadful, and worthless.
The amount of discipline it takes to do what I do each day is enormous. As it would just be so much easier to surf the web all day and hang out at places like, I dunno...dreamtheaterforums.org.
I can't control when the "good idea's" happen, so I may write all day and get nothing done, and then get an idea at midnight, that takes me all night to get out. Although the older I get the more I'm disciplined, but it still happens.
Despite the fact that I write what I want now, when I want, and my publisher is okay with that; there is enormous pressure to write great stories all of the time.
Imagine if you can that everything you do is compared to every other thing you have ever done. You pour your heart and soul into something, and then have people write comments online, in publications, or via mail about it like, ''It was okay, but not as good as his last book."; or "He has really slipped with his character development from his previous efforts."; or "The author ruined this book for me."; or "I really tried to like this, but it was too long and convoluted."; or "I'm not a critical person at all, ever; but this book was ....". Then if you got 1,000 people who loved what you did, for every 1 who hated it, having your boss (my publisher) throw up the one bad review of your work when it came time to, for example, renegotiate your salary .
Besides all of that, it's peachy! :biggrin:
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One thing I've noticed, working this place for 3 years, is that the employees that wind up the worse employees are the ones who show no interest in working as a team, which is important. I'm not saying we all need to be BFFs, but the job actually can be dangerous at times and we need to have each other's backs. Those who don't show any interest in that are usually the shit employees who fuck us over and over again until they quit or finally get fired. I can't stand dealing with those people..
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I notice that "management" always blows, but interestingly, the people saying that are never actually IN management.
I guess I've been lucky; with one exception, I've always had not just good, but great bosses. I haven't always liked the decisions management has made, but I understand them. I've also learned over time, that it is unreasonable to expect that management is going to blow up their numbers or metrics over one employee. Finally, in my experience, it is usually the case that third parties don't view an individual's performance the same way they do themselves.
I don't have much to complain about; I work out of the house. Sometimes I wish I was in the thick of it in an office, to get the scuttlebutt, but usually when I get in there (I am there this week, by coincidence) I usually remember exactly why I'm not.
So a kid that is always a no call/no show shouldn't be written up or fired? Baggers shouldn't do there jobs and shop the store before they go, but just clown around until their shift is up? I realize I'm in a ghetto store, but the lack of actual management is inexcusable. The store managers simply don't care. But you bet they'll jump down the night crew's throat for every little thing.
Management requires a ton of responsibility, but it's not an excuse for ignoring piss poor job performances.
The funny thing is, the store I used to work at has a manager that DOES care and IS very strict, and everyone hates him for it. People suck.
I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not in that situation, so I don't know what the metrics are. I don't know what the requirements are to actually fire someone (in most companies now it is very hard to actually "fire" someone without any egregious activity and without a PIP in place (which costs money). If you have a requirement to have a bagger, but that bagger has no metrics, why would management do anything different? To make you happy? See above; they're not going to blow up their metrics to garner your approval.
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I love reading the Grocery Store posts. I was a Store Manager for a major chain for 16 years, but stepped down to Grocery Manager a year and a half ago to accommodate some family issues.
I was just having this conversation this morning with my Night Crew Leader and a couple of the guys.
When I was a Store Manager, the only thing I did with my Night Crew was shake their hands.
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I work for a big consulting company and to be honest while I was working for inside projects I thought I had things to complain about but now that I've been working for a client for the past year or so I realize they do things quite well.
So, what sucks about working as a consultant at a client you ask? Well, pretty much everything. First you have to adapt to the fact that the client you work for probably has a very different structure and way of doing things that you are used to so you need to adapt to that. A lot of times you'll have great ideas to make things better that will never be put to use because it's either too "Advanced" for their maturity level or because of some political bullshit. Talking about political bullshit, it's amazing the amount of stupid shit I have to put up with because of that. There are things that get unnecessarily rushed because someone compromised a date for a project even though the company doesn't benefit from having that project deliver in said date and they don't give a single F*** if people are being overworked or that the quality of the product is bad. It just grinds my gears.
The human aspect is also horrible because when you do things good you are part of the team, but when something goes wrong whether it's my fault or not, it's a problem from the consulting service they hired. And sometimes you are not a person to them, you are a consulting service....
rant off.
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I notice that "management" always blows, but interestingly, the people saying that are never actually IN management.
I guess I've been lucky; with one exception, I've always had not just good, but great bosses. I haven't always liked the decisions management has made, but I understand them. I've also learned over time, that it is unreasonable to expect that management is going to blow up their numbers or metrics over one employee. Finally, in my experience, it is usually the case that third parties don't view an individual's performance the same way they do themselves.
I don't have much to complain about; I work out of the house. Sometimes I wish I was in the thick of it in an office, to get the scuttlebutt, but usually when I get in there (I am there this week, by coincidence) I usually remember exactly why I'm not.
So a kid that is always a no call/no show shouldn't be written up or fired? Baggers shouldn't do there jobs and shop the store before they go, but just clown around until their shift is up? I realize I'm in a ghetto store, but the lack of actual management is inexcusable. The store managers simply don't care. But you bet they'll jump down the night crew's throat for every little thing.
Management requires a ton of responsibility, but it's not an excuse for ignoring piss poor job performances.
The funny thing is, the store I used to work at has a manager that DOES care and IS very strict, and everyone hates him for it. People suck.
I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not in that situation, so I don't know what the metrics are. I don't know what the requirements are to actually fire someone (in most companies now it is very hard to actually "fire" someone without any egregious activity and without a PIP in place (which costs money). If you have a requirement to have a bagger, but that bagger has no metrics, why would management do anything different? To make you happy? See above; they're not going to blow up their metrics to garner your approval.
Back when I worked catering, I had a manager for two years that people constantly complained to the owner of the business about. She was absolutely terrible. She could cook like a champ, but her math skills sucked the big one. Her and I slowly began to hate each other because I started becoming vocal about how she was losing us money and the blame was being placed on all of us in the department instead. The owner of the business had four locations, probably about 30 managers between them, and something like 350-375 employees. He never saw anything other than the weekly reports that said whether or not the individual departments made money or lost money. Now, the department I worked in was in the green, but what the owner couldn't see was lost potential.
Instead of just complaining like everyone else, I decided to make a spreadsheet over the next few weeks logging everything I noticed that was potentially costing us dollars. So while the boss man was seeing green every week, I showed him that he was still losing on average about 6% a week due to this lady's lack of a real business/management degree. He gave me a $2 raise on the spot (which at 21 seemed like a fortune), and that lady wasn't manager for much longer. He offered me a manager position in another location and I turned it down as I planned on leaving the company within the next few months. Prior to that I had made him aware of the produce manager of another location throwing out between $1000 - $2000 worth of stock without reporting it. He was fired about a half hour later after some security footage was reviewed. It may sound like I am a nark, but if I'm slaving away to the public, I'll be damned if my day gets any worse because of some douche who really shouldn't be a manager.
I don't know how long you worked in retail, but I spent 8 years in that shit at four different locations. I saw good and great managers, and I also saw pieces of shit that I would never have even hired let alone made management. There's plenty of them, and most of the time the business owners don't fully understand how bad they are. My company's owner worked a minimum of 60 hours a week and was on two different boards of directors in his hometown (voluntarily). If he took the time to actually micromanage all thirty of his managers, he'd literally do nothing but work and sleep.
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What sucks about just about any job is that the workforce is usually made up of:
1. People that work hard but have limited skills and will probably never overcome that obstacle.
2. People that coast but have the potential to be so much more and will probably never overcome that obstacle.
3. People that work hard with a great set of skills (and friendly demeanor) but eventually are worn down by #1 and #2.
Then there is a different set of people:
1. People that point out problems and offer solutions with the sincere interest of making things better
2. People that point out problems because they like to point out the problems of others (or to get rid of those pointing out their own problems)
3. Those that realize pointing out any problem just makes them a target so they don't point out problems
4. Those that don't care
And then the view of the manger by the employees:
1. If the manager would just stop looking over our shoulders and trust us we would perform better
2. How is it the manager doesn't know what is going on? If they would just check on the people they are supposed to be managing, we would perform better.
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Much ignoring of the Peter principle in this thread. The truth is that there are a ton of people in management positions that really have no business in that role. I get that a lot of good managers get a bad wrap form employees that think they're more valuable than they actually are, but some of them really do suck.
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I work for a franchise of a restaurant chain. I don't know how other franchises or corporate stores do things, but my company is making very bad decisions that I swear are going to drive the whole thing into the ground. To a certain extent, I understand why they make these decisions. But the end result is that their employees are treated like dirt, and over the last several years, I've watched morale in the company sink below the water table.
We got rid of health benefits for employees years before the Obamacare thing. Rather than man up and bring them back once Obamacare was a thing, the company decided to stop offering full-time hours instead. Raises are frequent but crappy (even for management, cough cough), wage caps are low, and I still need to get permission from the higher ups if I ever intend to start a new hire at more than 75 cents over minimum wage.
My immediate supervisor is great, but my actual boss is a bag of dicks. Being an asshole has always been part of his charm. It's what makes him hilarious. But lately, he's been treating us like trash. I don't think he says hello anymore. He just walks in and starts pointing out reasons why we suck. I'd understand that approach if I were lazy and uncooperative, but I think I've proven that I'm not. He knows what's been going on and he knows about the difficulties we've had lately, but instead of treating us like people and offering helpful suggestions, he just points out problems, basically says "fix it," frequently threatens to force our team to work six days a week, and leaves. No small talk, no hello/goodbye/haveaniceday, nothing.
Which reminds me, I was going to do some job searching today...
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Much ignoring of the Peter principle in this thread. The truth is that there are a ton of people in management positions that really have no business in that role. I get that a lot of good managers get a bad wrap form employees that think they're more valuable than they actually are, but some of them really do suck.
No doubt; and some companies are worse than others in that regard. I get it.
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No doubt. My wife has had terrible bosses. I hear the horror stories from my brother. I want to make sure I am not like them and the things I've heard.
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Don't we already have a thread for this ?
ANYWAY : Re: What sucks about your job?
Happy to report nothing right now ! :)
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I work for a franchise of a restaurant chain. I don't know how other franchises or corporate stores do things, but my company is making very bad decisions that I swear are going to drive the whole thing into the ground. To a certain extent, I understand why they make these decisions. But the end result is that their employees are treated like dirt, and over the last several years, I've watched morale in the company sink below the water table.
We got rid of health benefits for employees years before the Obamacare thing. Rather than man up and bring them back once Obamacare was a thing, the company decided to stop offering full-time hours instead. Raises are frequent but crappy (even for management, cough cough), wage caps are low, and I still need to get permission from the higher ups if I ever intend to start a new hire at more than 75 cents over minimum wage.
My immediate supervisor is great, but my actual boss is a bag of dicks. Being an asshole has always been part of his charm. It's what makes him hilarious. But lately, he's been treating us like trash. I don't think he says hello anymore. He just walks in and starts pointing out reasons why we suck. I'd understand that approach if I were lazy and uncooperative, but I think I've proven that I'm not. He knows what's been going on and he knows about the difficulties we've had lately, but instead of treating us like people and offering helpful suggestions, he just points out problems, basically says "fix it," frequently threatens to force our team to work six days a week, and leaves. No small talk, no hello/goodbye/haveaniceday, nothing.
Which reminds me, I was going to do some job searching today...
Restaurant managers, in general, suck. Everytime I have a good one, as I do now, I thank my lucky stars, bout more often than not they are tremendously egocentric and power hungry. Why else would someone leave a higher paying server job to do the ungodly chore of managing a front of the house. Pretty much dicks, all of them.
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Restaurant managers, in general, suck. Everytime I have a good one, as I do now, I thank my lucky stars, bout more often than not they are tremendously egocentric and power hungry. Why else would someone leave a higher paying server job to do the ungodly chore of managing a front of the house. Pretty much dicks, all of them.
At my company, most of us aren't power-hungry or egocentric. We're just tired of all the bullshit.
I probably come off as egocentric sometimes. But this is a fast-food restaurant, so we have lots of high schoolers working for us. Every time one of them gives me attitude about something stupid...I go full-on asshole. One of my catchphrases is "I've been working here since you were in first grade. I know what I'm doing." Granted, I'm not always right, but some kid who's worked a grill for two months trying to correct me on something he doesn't know as much about as he thinks he does just makes me want to fire everybody.
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Yeah, I can totally see that as well. I've been in fine dining for a while now, and managers in this arena are usually servers who couldn't hang.
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My manager at Starbucks was a get stuck in on bar and checkouts type manager.
Not the type of manager who just sits in the office all day and makes one drink occasionally and pretends they're working :p
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So I'm just about done Pharmacy school, but for the time being I currently work in 2 pharmacy's. When I graduate, I pray to god that I can continue to work in one of them and never ever again have to work in the other.
Job 1- Hospital pharmacy
Pretty sweet gig. Great pay, lot's of ecentric co-workers, lots of drama that I just sit back and enjoy. Basically, The doctor puts in an order and you as a pharmacist look it over, make sure the dose is right, instructions are right and that it plays nice with their other meds and you verify it. And boom, done. The nurse then gives it. Not too bad and overall just a cool job
Job 2- Retail pharmacy, basically a CVS or Rite Aid
Fucking kill me now. Now... a lot of people look back there and are all like "oh, $125,000 bucks to count pills and ring people up, hot damn, what a sweet set up"
NOOOOOOO, god no. Fuck me I hate it so much. Imagine a job where almost every single problem that occurs is not only not your fault, but you can't fix it.
1. People expect a zero dollar co-pay and god forbid their insurance changes the co-pay and it goes up. You get screamed at. The person choices an insurance, that insurance that that person chose increased the co-pay and you are the person that get's screamed at.
2. Insurance won't pay for a med until the doctor gives a "prior auth" saying that the patient absolutely needs the med. just an extra hoop to jump through from cheap ass insurance. 9/10 times, the doctor forgets to do it and then takes their dear sweet ass time to do it once you let them know. This boils down to you getting screamed at because the person can't get the med that day and somehow that's your fault
3. Xanex a couple days early. Lovely Benzo addicts goubling the pills like their candy, then they go to refill it and the insurance won't pay for it until its supposed to be re-filled. So somehow this is your fault and you get screamed at.
4. "I'm going down the shore". I live in Philly so everybody just looooves to go down the shore. Which means that every friday night of the summer, you get people trying to refill a prescription one or two days too soon and the insurance won't pay for it. So somehow this is your fault and you get screamed at.
5. No refills and I'm all out. On the bottles we put this crazy thing that tells you how many refills you have left. regardless, people will come into your pharmacy friday night 10 mins before close and will be totally out of refills and totally out of pills. Waited till the last minute, as the worst possible time, to try and get this thing that keeps you alive. So somehow this is your fault and you get screamed at.
6. I don't know what my meds are. People are on like 15 meds. Don't have a clue what they are, what they are for, or even how to take them/use them.
7. Doctor shitty handwriting
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I see shit like this WAY too often
A great deal of people die each year from this bullshit. On one hand you have this hot mess in your hand that you really need to call the doctor to clarify. On the other hand, you have some inpatient asshole screaming at you at the counter to just fill it. So you try and call and can't get hold of the doctor and its a problem that can linger for days. I hate it.
8. Oxy and percocet people- This is the real deal breaker for me. Drug abusers and dealers trying to play me for adderall, percocet, vicodin and oxy's. FUCK all of you people. Not one day has ever gone by since I started working where someone hasn't tried to manipulate me into giving them C-II drugs. Yes there are people that really need these drugs, but these assholes have me having to practically do a whole backround check and distrust every single person that has a script for them.
9. Everything always breaks or is slow and I'm all by myself. In the hospital, if something breaks, then you call maintenance or IT and they come fix it in like 15mins. In retail, if your register goes down (and it has) oh my god you are so fucked. You now have to walk everyone over to customer service because of HIPPA patient privacy laws.
10. Flu shot quotas. Yeah, that's right, your district manager sets a number of flu shots you have to give, otherwise they can fire you. cool
11. You get to do nothing healthcare related. You bill insurance all day like a bitch. You go to school for 6 years and its basically med school lite, and you pretty much count pills, bill insurance and get screamed at. You never get to use the knowledge you gained in school.
Basically, I will do everything in my power to get into hospital pharmacy as a pharmacist, because if I have to work at a CVS...
:marriageanalogy:
TLDR- Fuck retail pharmacy, yay hospital pharmacy
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Restaurant managers, in general, suck. Everytime I have a good one, as I do now, I thank my lucky stars, bout more often than not they are tremendously egocentric and power hungry. Why else would someone leave a higher paying server job to do the ungodly chore of managing a front of the house. Pretty much dicks, all of them.
i wouldn't say they are all dicks, but becoming a restaurant manager in most places is not difficult. I was asked several times back in the day about moving up, when I was tending bar, and I always said no. Why would I want to work twice as many hours to make the same amount of money? And there is nowhere to go with that job, and I can't imagine it looking that great on a resume, so it's not like I was turning down a good opportunity. Doing that wouldn't have helped me get the job I have now.
The corporate jugheads, as I always called them, were much worse. Managers were often handicapped in the sense that they had to do the dumb shit the higher-ups told them to do, and often times, it was stuff that was so impractical. But some of the dumbest people I have ever worked with were restaurant managers. It's like they become a manager and then completely forget how shit works. :lol :lol
As for my current job, the only thing I can say about it that sucks are the hours. :lol I can't say I am a fan of being up at 5:30 every day, since I work 6:30-3:30ish, but I will be moving within the company in the next few weeks and will likely transition back to 8-5; I can't wait. :coolio
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Federal contractor here, basically I work for a business that pursues government contracts.
The government is the worst scheduler of all time. Here's basically how they think -
Day one: "Hey, let's release an RFP. We'll have it due the Monday after 4th of July weekend"
July 3rd: "Hey, we screwed up the RFP. We're releasing a new one and it's due the day after labor day weekend now"
-later-
"Hey, congrats, you guys won the job! You start Thanksgiving day!"
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TLDR- Fuck retail pharmacy, yay hospital pharmacy
For what it's worth I try to be as nice and helpful to my pharmacists as possible, though they probably still think I"m a PITA. That said, one or two points: part of the problem with retail pharmacists is brought on by factors other than the patients. The auto-refill system mine had in place worked well enough to make you think it was reliable, and failed enough to piss you off on a regular basis. Pre-transplant I was in the pharmacy 3 times a week, minimum. Often times I'd go in expecting one thing to be ready only to find it was a no-go but two other things I didn't need already filled. I had the bright idea to make a rolodex card with all of my script IDs on it, only to find that they changed with every refill authorization. Combined with the long hold time it was actually easier just to drive to the place and get turned away than to call and have them check into it. Also, it was perpetually understaffed. I'm sure both of these were more frustrating to the people who worked there, but it certainly results in frustrating us customers too.
I'm dealing with a specialty pharmacy at a hospital down here now, and it's pretty much the best of both worlds. They have their shit together, very rarely screwing up, and they FedEx all of my meds to me so I never have to step foot in the place (a benefit of a weakened immune system).
Also, I do have to get them to remind me of one of the meds I take. I remember 8 of the regular ones, but the ninth is like FTW/SMF/FOAD or some shit.
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I'm an electrician. I originally got into it because my brother was an electrician and the company he was working for hired me as a favor...I didn't really have any bankable skills at the time, so I jumped at the money.
What sucks most about it is the abuse that construction puts on your body. I'm 45 years old, and my shoulders are shot from working overhead all the time, my knees are shot from kneeling on concrete for my entire career (I wear knee-pads now...but when I was 20 and "invincible" it was another story)...
...add to that...I've never really been the "mechanical" type. Do anything for 10,000 hours and you can become proficient at it, and that has been my story, but it has never come naturally for me. Now I'm stuck, because it's the only thing I know how to do and I'm only really average at doing it because it doesn't really fall into my "natural ability" range. If time wasn't a factor I'd be great, because I'm an artist and I tend to want to do things "just so"...but guess how far that gets you on a job that's fallen behind schedule (which is EVERY job).
I keep wanting to fire The Jammin Dude Show back up, because I really love doing it, but my personal life makes it nearly impossible to be *consistent* at it...and there's obviously no pay involved.
I wish I knew how to do something else. I ran a CD shop at a department store for 4 years, and I *LOVED* my job, and I was one of the best in the district at it. But guess how many of those jobs there are today... ...and of the ones that do exist, how many of them pay a living wage?
*sigh*
Thanks for "brightening" my day, guys... (isn't there a crying emoticon?)
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So I'm just about done Pharmacy school, but for the time being I currently work in 2 pharmacy's. When I graduate, I pray to god that I can continue to work in one of them and never ever again have to work in the other.
Job 1- Hospital pharmacy
Pretty sweet gig. Great pay, lot's of ecentric co-workers, lots of drama that I just sit back and enjoy. Basically, The doctor puts in an order and you as a pharmacist look it over, make sure the dose is right, instructions are right and that it plays nice with their other meds and you verify it. And boom, done. The nurse then gives it. Not too bad and overall just a cool job
You guys are awesome. My ass has been saved by a pharmacist on multiple occasions.
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What sucks most about it is the abuse that construction puts on your body. I'm 45 years old, and my shoulders are shot from working overhead all the time, my knees are shot from kneeling on concrete for my entire career (I wear knee-pads now...but when I was 20 and "invincible" it was another story)...
Tell me about it. Years of working on my feet took a bit of its toll on my knees, but on the flip side, whenever I have worked sitting down, like now, it has taken its toll on my back, so I am pretty much screwed either way. :facepalm: :lol
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I work in LTL trucking, so I'm home every night, and for a truck driver, I get paid pretty well.
What sucks about it? Well, dealing with a distracted public on the roadways every day. I've driven a truck for four years now and the general motoring public (IME) has no idea how to drive around big trucks. Cell phones are an issue, but the biggest problem is that people don't understand how to drive around trucks. I like keeping a safe following distance (at least four seconds), but people passing me pull back in front of me as soon as they can, sometimes half a second. I had a person once who, to make a right turn at an intersection less than half a mile, decided to pull in front of me, hit the brakes to the point where I could barely see the roof of their car and make the turn. I didn't hit that person, but the video that was recorded of me (my company has cameras in the trucks) showed me how close I was to hitting the car.
People see trucks as something that is slow and in the way of where they're going. They don't want to be stuck behind one so people will do all they can to get around one. That's what sucks about my job.
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The one unique crap part of my job I can add that hasn't been stated is Productivity. This is a monthly and/or yearly quota of billable hours for a practicing mental health therapist to meet via sessions with patients/clients. Yes, in a way it shows how productive someone is, but the percentage is based on a reasonable expectation, and potentially that agency's/companies needs. I do not think this is unique to the field of therapy, as I would guess it applies to physicians and lawyers in some instances. But when things happen like people not showing up and forgetting appointments, or people on the run, you are dinged and have to make up that time. Either working later evenings, calling people to rack up minutes, or taking your time off to invalidate that day (if the agency/company does that).
It is a necessary evil at times, but a rotten one at others. It leads a few unfortunately to fraudulently claim sessions to maintain the hour quota. And "milking" other patients who can go longer in a session.
My boss is a guy that NEVER says "good job". I don't need to be stroked but I am always told when I've screwed something up.
This, and of course I can echo other's bosses making a job terrible. My present job had my worst boss ever, mainly because he did what you said Tick. I never took stock in it for years, but simple "thanks" or "solid job, keep at it" go a long way.
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People see trucks as something that is slow and in the way of where they're going. They don't want to be stuck behind one so people will do all they can to get around one. That's what sucks about my job.
I hate to say it, but in heavy traffic trucks make great lane openings. When nobody is letting you over and you've had your ignored blinker on forever, a truck can be quite the gift.
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Not the type of manager who just sits in the office all day and makes one drink occasionally and pretends they're working :p
Being a supervisor/manager, it is really hard to fight the natural instinct to "just do it yourself" or show that you don't find the work beneath you. But in the long run, if you are doing it right, then you really should be playing the larger game. It benefits everybody.
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I personally respect a manager that gets their hands dirty from time to time. The CEO of my agency, and one past boss still saw clients occasionally. It really makes me respect them more, and they could apply theories of treatment that the agency forced down our throats to actual cases they actively had. Too many managers I have had stopped seeing clients, and then expect people to apply the latest and greatest treatment that they have never tried. So their knowledge of effectiveness could be unreasonable.
Same goes for bosses in my previous career life. It worked better when they actually knew what process and how to do things their people were doing. That said, I can imagine it is a hard tight rope to walk Calvin6s, and I would not expect a boss to jump in and fix things frequently. That creates a dependency.
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TLDR- Fuck retail pharmacy, yay hospital pharmacy
My cousin is a pharmacist at a VA hospital, fucking loves the gig.
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Same goes for bosses in my previous career life. It worked better when they actually knew what process and how to do things their people were doing. That said, I can imagine it is a hard tight rope to walk Calvin6s, and I would not expect a boss to jump in and fix things frequently. That creates a dependency.
This is why I mentioned natural tendency (which was more aimed at myself than managers in general). I originally posted with a self-example, but cut it out. I even pointed out how it gives me "employee cred". And it does. And I will never stop doing it here and there. But it became obvious the less I rolled up my sleeves and put myself at a station of the assembly line and instead spent more time organizing others and giving direction, the better the projects turned out. When I was in the weeds, things would happen where I'd be left saying "I didn't know that happened" or "I didn't know Jim wasted time looking for me instead of me looking for Jim".
The main reasons I still help to some degree are:
- smaller projects require less full time supervision
- the economic situation on the workforce
- when I don't do something enough, I will start to get *ring rust* and fear I could lose the details for training
- gives me a chance to see how things are working (and what needs improving)
A somewhat funny side note:
Getting in the weeds allows me to make jokes like "I'm old and slow. I better not finish first."
On smaller projects, I will have to do more manual labor. And the first day of manual labor can really test me. By the time the eight hours rolls around, I'm huffing and puffing, whereas in my 20s I'd work 12 to 16 hour days 5 to 7 days a week for weeks at a time. The second day I get past the huffing and puffing (but eventually the aching will start). So I'll work with these 20yo's and set a good pace. But if I turn a corner and get 10 seconds by myself, I'm huffing and puffing. Then when they turn the corner I suck it up and pretend I could go all day. I figure I got a couple years until I turn that corner, huff and puff but can't recover by the time they catch up and my cover will be blown.
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What sucks most about it is the abuse that construction puts on your body. I'm 45 years old, and my shoulders are shot from working overhead all the time, my knees are shot from kneeling on concrete for my entire career (I wear knee-pads now...but when I was 20 and "invincible" it was another story)...
Tell me about it. Years of working on my feet took a bit of its toll on my knees, but on the flip side, whenever I have worked sitting down, like now, it has taken its toll on my back, so I am pretty much screwed either way. :facepalm: :lol
I'll bet that you'll have less health issues later in life than I will. Atleast you're active and keeping your heart and lungs in shape. Sitting in a chair for 10 hours a day is killing me.
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Restaurant managers, in general, suck. Everytime I have a good one, as I do now, I thank my lucky stars, bout more often than not they are tremendously egocentric and power hungry. Why else would someone leave a higher paying server job to do the ungodly chore of managing a front of the house. Pretty much dicks, all of them.
At my company, most of us aren't power-hungry or egocentric. We're just tired of all the bullshit.
I probably come off as egocentric sometimes. But this is a fast-food restaurant, so we have lots of high schoolers working for us. Every time one of them gives me attitude about something stupid...I go full-on asshole. One of my catchphrases is "I've been working here since you were in first grade. I know what I'm doing." Granted, I'm not always right, but some kid who's worked a grill for two months trying to correct me on something he doesn't know as much about as he thinks he does just makes me want to fire everybody.
And I'll bet you a bag of doughnuts that there is a thread on a board somewhere and that high school kid that gave you 'tude is going "there's this guy, at work, and he is a MAJOR douche rocket. Doesn't have the first idea how to manage people, and yet goes around telling anyone that will listen that "I've been doing this since the stone age" and "I know what I'm doing". Pud. If he knew what he was doing, he wouldn't be working at a fast food joint."
Look, I know I sound insensitive, and I apologize for that, but the reality is, there is no benefit to the things you are talking about. In a business where the vast majority of employees are gone - sometimes without ANY notice - the second a) college starts, b) their buddy gets them that "sweet" job in the mall, c) their "real" job comes around, or d) they die (if they are seniors), it's wasted effort and counterproductive to do the things you are saying. If you don't like it, get a job where there isn't that demographic.
As for "manning up" and "doing the right thing", well, what would you rather have? 30 hours and no healthcare (through the company) or no job? Those offerings are EXPENSIVE. That's part of the criticism (valid, in my view) of the Obamacare effort to start with. it was (and is) tone deaf to the idea that businesses have to ultimately make money (or at least break even, though in reality even that doesn't work) in order to continue to be able to supply jobs to the community.
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When I tell people I travel for work, specifically to Amsterdam, everyone thinks its the best job ever. The reality is that my business trips are like 100 hour work weeks and I hardly experience the location I am at and not a single one of the people who think my job would be fun would think its fun if they had to do it. Granted I did just get a day off in Amsterdam on Sunday so that was actually really awesome.
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And I'll bet you a bag of doughnuts that there is a thread on a board somewhere and that high school kid that gave you 'tude is going "there's this guy, at work, and he is a MAJOR douche rocket. Doesn't have the first idea how to manage people, and yet goes around telling anyone that will listen that "I've been doing this since the stone age" and "I know what I'm doing". Pud. If he knew what he was doing, he wouldn't be working at a fast food joint."
Yeah. I mean, I was on the other end when I was a teenager and I hated some of my bosses. Looking back, I realize my complaints were sometimes (but not always) off-base. I've pissed plenty of people off, but I have the benefit of only being the second-biggest hardass in the store, so a lot of times people put up with me because it's still better than having the other manager around.
Look, I know I sound insensitive, and I apologize for that, but the reality is, there is no benefit to the things you are talking about. In a business where the vast majority of employees are gone - sometimes without ANY notice - the second a) college starts, b) their buddy gets them that "sweet" job in the mall, c) their "real" job comes around, or d) they die (if they are seniors), it's wasted effort and counterproductive to do the things you are saying. If you don't like it, get a job where there isn't that demographic.
Hey, it's a thread about complaining about your job, right? That's all I was doing. What I mentioned doesn't happen very often, it's just something I thought of in a response to lonestar. In a lot of cases, one reminder that I know what I'm doing does the trick. And in the cases where it doesn't, it's usually someone I'm hoping will quit soon anyway.
But, for the record, the vast majority of our staff is not made up of high schoolers. Maybe 20-25%, most of which are not the kinds with attitude problems. So I'm not looking for a new job because of some uppity kids. I'm doing it for all the other reasons.
As for "manning up" and "doing the right thing", well, what would you rather have? 30 hours and no healthcare (through the company) or no job? Those offerings are EXPENSIVE. That's part of the criticism (valid, in my view) of the Obamacare effort to start with. it was (and is) tone deaf to the idea that businesses have to ultimately make money (or at least break even, though in reality even that doesn't work) in order to continue to be able to supply jobs to the community.
I agree with your criticism of Obamacare. But my company started doing dumb stuff way before that. And I realize it's expensive to offer health benefits and such, but especially when Obamacare hit, they had an opportunity. A lot of fast food places slashed their people's hours, and we might have benefited from being the first to step up and say, "we're going to absorb the cost because we care about treating our staff well." Morale wouldn't have plummeted and we could have had a better selection of candidates for hiring. We could have had better staff, better productivity, a better public image. Instead, we cut everybody's hours and spent a buttload of money buying out another franchise.
I mean, I don't have a business degree or anything, so I realize I could be wrong about all this, but Obamacare is just one area of many in which my company has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for their employees. In the long run, I think it's hurting them. Several stores in my area have recently gone through periods of insanely low staffing. Nobody wants to work for us. Productivity is laughably low. My girlfriend works for a competitor and her company hasn't had these problems, but then her company also offers full-time hours and a better wage.
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I see shit like this WAY too often
Oh come on!! Are you serious?? That's easy to read to me. Maybe you need glasses. It very clearly reads,
"Alfred Hearse 1009 N. Tortoise St"
"Sodium Salt Cyalis Gift"
"Mitten Lilac Doves #24" (must be like Strawberry Letter 23 or something)
"Sing, Take in Traffic"
and it's signed by, "Beethoven".
How can't you see that?? Jeeze! :\
On a serious note, I think the three jobs I would hate in order are,
1) Air Traffic controller. I went to high school with a guy who became an air traffic controller. He just retired, but now has tons of serious health issues that pretty much all traced back to stress. He tells me there are an enormous amount of what the general public would perceive as close calls almost every day. The pressure to make sure you're perfect all the time is enormous. He actually had to take off work for like two years because of stress related to the job.
2) Cop. I have several friends in various forms of law enforcement from the Met, Homeland Security, FBI, DEA, ATF, Fish and Game, and state and local cops. I would not want to be a cop. At all. The bullshit they see and experience everyday. Especially right now.
3) Retail pharmacist. I know people in this field too. Most younger people don't last long, and for all the reasons you mentioned. They get far too little respect for what they have to do andpout up with every day.
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Whoa! Signed by Beethoven? Must be worth a lot.
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Not the type of manager who just sits in the office all day and makes one drink occasionally and pretends they're working :p
Being a supervisor/manager, it is really hard to fight the natural instinct to "just do it yourself" or show that you don't find the work beneath you. But in the long run, if you are doing it right, then you really should be playing the larger game. It benefits everybody.
I agree with this, but at the same time I'm frequently guilty of this (and most of the other bad manager stories here). In my case I usually want to insure something doesn't get fucked up. Of course taking on too much frequently means fucking it up myself, hence the bad management quality.
One thing that does bug the hell out of me is managers who won't help out when it's actually required. Having to wait in unduly long lines while there are mangers standing around not helping out genuinely pisses me off. Grab a till and open a damn register you prick!
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I hear you Bart, standing around is not the right thing to do, but there are two things that I would never do. One is run a register myself, and the other is to get stuck behind the Deli.
I may need to get to another part of the store at a moment's notice and you can't do that if you are ringing.
I will say that when I was promoted, it was in a VERY small and low volume store, and I did ring occasionally, but managing a large size Grocery Store, ringing isn't really the right thing to do.
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I make it a point to talk on the floor and help when I can, have an open door to talk about anything. I want them to feel wanted. A happy worker is a good worker.
Of course we have goals, I'm walking around looking at safety and letting them know when I see something unsafe but also praise them when I see something good or something safe.
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I make it a point to talk on the floor and help when I can, have an open door to talk about anything. I want them to feel wanted. A happy worker is a good worker.
Of course we have goals, I'm walking around looking at safety and letting them know when I see something unsafe but also praise them when I see something good or something safe.
Yeah, I agree. I tried to help whenever I could. I spent the last 10 years in Union stores, so what I could do was somewhat limited. But It may just be something simple like taking the Meat room's cardboard to the baler for them. They appreciated little things like that.
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Oh come on!! Are you serious?? That's easy to read to me. Maybe you need glasses. It very clearly reads,
:metal
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Yeah, it must be my glasses. Maybe I should get a new prescription ;)
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I agree with your criticism of Obamacare. But my company started doing dumb stuff way before that. And I realize it's expensive to offer health benefits and such, but especially when Obamacare hit, they had an opportunity. A lot of fast food places slashed their people's hours, and we might have benefited from being the first to step up and say, "we're going to absorb the cost because we care about treating our staff well." Morale wouldn't have plummeted and we could have had a better selection of candidates for hiring. We could have had better staff, better productivity, a better public image. Instead, we cut everybody's hours and spent a buttload of money buying out another franchise.
I mean, I don't have a business degree or anything, so I realize I could be wrong about all this, but Obamacare is just one area of many in which my company has demonstrated an utter lack of respect for their employees. In the long run, I think it's hurting them. Several stores in my area have recently gone through periods of insanely low staffing. Nobody wants to work for us. Productivity is laughably low. My girlfriend works for a competitor and her company hasn't had these problems, but then her company also offers full-time hours and a better wage.
We're going to get off on a tangent here, but regardless of what the exact issue is, but the one thing that has to be remembered above all is this: companies have to make a profit. Not for the reasons that you hear about on TV ("BIG [industry], "greed!", etc.) but by law. That is the raison d'etre of a company's existence. Now, from that premise, you can do that 1000 different ways, and some of those ways are attracting the best talent through strong benefits and reasonable salaries. Got it. But it HAS to make financial sense. If those offerings don't match up with employee productivity or market realities, then something has to give. The common discourse is that the corporation has to be the one to give (you see this a lot in minimum wage discussions), but that's really a false equivalency. It's not a choice of "unhappy workers at low benefits/wages" versus "HAPPY workers with high benefits/wages" and carve a little out of the "obscene profits". It's really more stark. "Profit", like "interest", is a measure of risk. It's not free money that just sits around.
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What sucks most about it is the abuse that construction puts on your body. I'm 45 years old, and my shoulders are shot from working overhead all the time, my knees are shot from kneeling on concrete for my entire career (I wear knee-pads now...but when I was 20 and "invincible" it was another story)...
Tell me about it. Years of working on my feet took a bit of its toll on my knees, but on the flip side, whenever I have worked sitting down, like now, it has taken its toll on my back, so I am pretty much screwed either way. :facepalm: :lol
I'll bet that you'll have less health issues later in life than I will. Atleast you're active and keeping your heart and lungs in shape. Sitting in a chair for 10 hours a day is killing me.
Perhaps. I am going to my chiropractor again, for the first time in years, thanks to a bit of back and neck pain here and there that causes headaches and even a tad bit of nausea on occasion. Pretty annoying. I still have all of my movements, but the occasional small pop in my neck (like when you crack your knuckles, but more subtle) when I turn my head scares me, so I am taking preemptive measures.
One thing that does bug the hell out of me is managers who won't help out when it's actually required. Having to wait in unduly long lines while there are mangers standing around not helping out genuinely pisses me off. Grab a till and open a damn register you prick!
Amen to that! That happened last month when I was the Dollar Tree buying a mother's day card. There was one line open and about eight of us in line, and the manager just sat there stocking shelves like 20 feet away. I am not an impatient person, so having to wait a few didn't bug me that much, but it is still BS that he didn't come up to help. A few people in front of me were mad as hell.
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In broad strokes, I deal with the general public. And the general public is an idiot.
this sums it up rather well.
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Amen to that! That happened last month when I was the Dollar Tree buying a mother's day card. There was one line open and about eight of us in line, and the manager just sat there stocking shelves like 20 feet away. I am not an impatient person, so having to wait a few didn't bug me that much, but it is still BS that he didn't come up to help. A few people in front of me were mad as hell.
Coincidentially, that happened to me at a Dollar Tree as well. One woman was doing check out and blowing up balloons, and the line went all the way back into one of the aisles. I didn't know there was anyone else on duty, but one woman must've, because she yelled "Hello? Can we please get some help?" and the door to the manager's office opened and two guys came out looking pretty sheepish. I'm not saying there was funny business going on, but I have a kid and I know a "guilty" look when I see it.
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I'm covering for the washer upper this week which is fine because it's in no way like my previous washing up job.
1. It's only a small cafe and the kitchen is next to the dining area
2. There are windows *everywhere* so there's air and sunlight coming in.
3. It's nowhere near as busy so the workload is extremely manageable.
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Gossip, Malicious and Ignorant people :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn :tdwn
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What sucks most about my job is I have about 2737 days left till retirement. All the other shit is secondary really. My job used to be halfway decent until our recent company bought us 2 years ago. After 25 years here, and the 3rd refinery owner, thing are circling the bowl rapidly. These asshats are going to run this place into the ground, I just hope we survive it... :censored Even our Refinery management folks aren't happy. Hey! The boards making big coin though!
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I'd say my least favorite things about hospice work are:
-Paperwork (having to document every visit I make, etc.)
-Being mostly ruled by Medicare and having regulations change all the time
-Having to be on call sometimes (though this has gotten much better since we hired regular on call people)
-Only 15 days of PTO a year, with no opportunity to acquire more/roll any over (I realize this is better than a lot of companies, but when you're doing emotionally exhausting work like mine you should get more self-care time off)
-As I mentioned above, it can be really draining, and expectations are high. A lot of times I come home and do absolutely nothing because I'm so tired. I don't want to talk to people or have any responsibilities, I just want to cuddle up with my cats and shut my brain off.
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I'd say my least favorite things about hospice work are:
-Paperwork (having to document every visit I make, etc.)
-Being mostly ruled by Medicare and having regulations change all the time
-Having to be on call sometimes (though this has gotten much better since we hired regular on call people)
-Only 15 days of PTO a year, with no opportunity to acquire more/roll any over (I realize this is better than a lot of companies, but when you're doing emotionally exhausting work like mine you should get more self-care time off)
-As I mentioned above, it can be really draining, and expectations are high. A lot of times I come home and do absolutely nothing because I'm so tired. I don't want to talk to people or have any responsibilities, I just want to cuddle up with my cats and shut my brain off.
This is something I think I sometimes take for granted. As much as I piss and moan about my job, working shift work allows for some decent chunks of time off. My limiting factor for vacations and the such are my wife's available time off of her PT job. I think as you get older, that time off becomes more important than a lot of other factors. At least for me it does.
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The isolation at times... working in my studio alone for long hours. That's the worst part. Could be worse!
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I'd say my least favorite things about hospice work are:
-Paperwork (having to document every visit I make, etc.)
-Being mostly ruled by Medicare and having regulations change all the time
-Having to be on call sometimes (though this has gotten much better since we hired regular on call people)
-Only 15 days of PTO a year, with no opportunity to acquire more/roll any over (I realize this is better than a lot of companies, but when you're doing emotionally exhausting work like mine you should get more self-care time off)
-As I mentioned above, it can be really draining, and expectations are high. A lot of times I come home and do absolutely nothing because I'm so tired. I don't want to talk to people or have any responsibilities, I just want to cuddle up with my cats and shut my brain off.
This is something I think I sometimes take for granted. As much as I piss and moan about my job, working shift work allows for some decent chunks of time off. My limiting factor for vacations and the such are my wife's available time off of her PT job. I think as you get older, that time off becomes more important than a lot of other factors. At least for me it does.
Very solid point. More things probably pile up with where people want to go I'm guessing?
I am not complaining about the amount of time off, because what I get now is fine. The amount of time US workers get vs. European countries and some other places is a joke though. And time off for medical stuff too (looking at you maternity & paternity leave). This is a culture of work work work, and time off reflects it IMO.
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Very solid point. More things probably pile up with where people want to go I'm guessing?
I am not complaining about the amount of time off, because what I get now is fine. The amount of time US workers get vs. European counties and some and other places is a joke though. And time off for medical stuff too (looking at you maternity & paternity leave). This is a culture of work work work, and time off reflects it IMO.
I think for me it's a combination of things. Like you mention, I have a pretty big wish list for places to go. Also, as I've gotten older, and been through some major medical ordeals, I find that it would be best if I do as much as I can now instead of waiting for retirement. When that time comes, who knows if I'll be up to the task physically or mentally. Another thing is I feel like I've worked hard for a good 30+ years now, and should enjoy more.
From what I've heard from others in Europe, Australia and some other areas you are right. The US mentality towards it's workers really sucks ass when it comes to giving us time off, compared to some other countries.
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I'd say my least favorite things about hospice work are:
-Paperwork (having to document every visit I make, etc.)
-Being mostly ruled by Medicare and having regulations change all the time
-Having to be on call sometimes (though this has gotten much better since we hired regular on call people)
-Only 15 days of PTO a year, with no opportunity to acquire more/roll any over (I realize this is better than a lot of companies, but when you're doing emotionally exhausting work like mine you should get more self-care time off)
-As I mentioned above, it can be really draining, and expectations are high. A lot of times I come home and do absolutely nothing because I'm so tired. I don't want to talk to people or have any responsibilities, I just want to cuddle up with my cats and shut my brain off.
This is something I think I sometimes take for granted. As much as I piss and moan about my job, working shift work allows for some decent chunks of time off. My limiting factor for vacations and the such are my wife's available time off of her PT job. I think as you get older, that time off becomes more important than a lot of other factors. At least for me it does.
Very solid point. More things probably pile up with where people want to go I'm guessing?
I am not complaining about the amount of time off, because what I get now is fine. The amount of time US workers get vs. European countries and some other places is a joke though. And time off for medical stuff too (looking at you maternity & paternity leave). This is a culture of work work work, and time off reflects it IMO.
It's not that simple, though. I get five weeks a year. The last two years? I gave back 3 and 3 and a half weeks, respectively. I get the time, but I find it's not so easy to use it. What am I going to do? Sit in my house for a week and play Playstation? I might as well work.
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Go on vacation? That's what I am doing even by myself tomorrow cause I have vacation days to use and if i dont use them I lose them... so its pointless to work.
American PTO is a joke compared to Europe, but granted with my 15 PTO I find it hard to use unless I do something like I just mentioned. Last year I ended up scheduling every other Friday off for the last three months to use my time, which screws wiht my OT, but like I said, if I dont use it, I lose it and I am not losing my PTO!
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I guess it's a head scratcher to me how you could have TOO much PTO. I mean, at the very least, just take days off from work. Myself, If budget allowed it I'd take at least 3 big vacations a year, at least 2 weeks each. There's tons of stuff on my short list to use days, such as weekend trips. Three to four day local jaunts also are numerous on my list. Now, if you REALLY enjoy your work and prefer to be there....I guess I envy you a bit. That would sure make life easier :)
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But I'm guessing Stadler takes pride in his job? I know we all have had a week off in a row, and when we come back, it feels like it was a month. I think we all take stock in our jobs, and when we are away, we get anxious about stuff. I just believe that there is *always* something to do, so it feels like we miss out if we are not there. As sad as that is to say as an at-will employee.
Sure, not enough time off. And I'm in your boat fully. If I have leftover time off, and cannot cash it out, I will burn it. Unfortunately my time off at my present gig has mostly been to cover for broken appointments with clients. So although I had about 15-17 days, I only took about 5 days probably of legit, planned time off. Luckily the new spot won't be privy to this issue, so I will see if it is too much time off for me.
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Come on Stad...you have a better imagination than that. Don't you live somewhere near Bean Town? I'm sure there must be some nice quiet spots up and down the coast. Maybe a week off and take a train up to Maine? I hear it's gorgeous up there. Just unplug, man....
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Come on Stad...you have a better imagination than that. Don't you live somewhere near Bean Town? I'm sure there must be some nice quiet spots up and down the coast. Maybe a week off and take a train up to Maine? I hear it's gorgeous up there. Just unplug, man....
Of course I do (to both questions). For me, I buzz over to Block Island if I want to get away.
But others have touched on things; there is a degree to which taking a day off means two days work when I get back, and there is a degree to which I like what I do. I'm proud to be the guy that my boss goes to when he has no idea who to go to with a problem. Ever since I was about 28 or so, I've always been the "Special Projects" guy. And for better or worse, that sometimes requires me to work on someone elses' schedule.
I can remember several years back when I was doing M&A work (which is incredibly time constrained work) and being in Universal in Florida and having to take a call. Have you ever tried to take a call in a theme park? The sound is EVERYWHERE. So I was up in a wooded area walking around behind buildings (which they really don't want you to do) to find a place I could talk. Sucked at the time, but makes for a great story, and I have that experience that I can always fall back on. I don't know; one day of vacation is not worth giving that up for me.
Some of it has to do with funds, though. I'm a single dad, and I pay for my daughter's private school, which is a no-brainer for me, and that is going to translate into college soon enough. It's an easy target, but while Obama has worked for a lot of people, he hasn't really worked for me. I'm ostensibly in that group that people so cavalierly refer to as "the rich" and "those that have enough to pay their fair share" and the reality is, well, you'd be surprised. Not making excuses, because I manage my money well, and (except for the divorce) it's all my own choice how I spend it, but under the current scheme I make more and have less to allocate to discretionary things, and I'd rather put the effort into making myself as close to unexpendable at work as I can (NO ONE is actually unexpendable).
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I guess it's a head scratcher to me how you could have TOO much PTO.
My father has 800 hours (he's at the maximum limit) of PTO that have rolled over throughout the years. If he doesn't use all 8 weeks of PTO each year, it just gets thrown away at this point.
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I guess it's a head scratcher to me how you could have TOO much PTO.
My father has 800 hours (he's at the maximum limit) of PTO that have rolled over throughout the years. If he doesn't use all 8 weeks of PTO each year, it just gets thrown away at this point.
Wow.... I really wish I had his problem :lol
Stad... I get that scenario, where you have to make up the work if you take time off. I guess I'm fortunate that I don't run into that.
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I guess it's a head scratcher to me how you could have TOO much PTO.
My father has 800 hours (he's at the maximum limit) of PTO that have rolled over throughout the years. If he doesn't use all 8 weeks of PTO each year, it just gets thrown away at this point.
Wow.... I really wish I had his problem :lol
It sucks that he throws away 3-4 weeks worth of PTO per year, but the fact that'll he'll receive a lump payment of about $56K the day he leaves the company is pretty cool. I still think it's bullshit though. There should be no maximum, especially if you have employees only using half of their available PTO time because they are so busy.
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Bullies.
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Well I'm currently enjoying my PTO in the Dominican Republic! :hat
At my previous job I only got 2 week of vacation and if I didn't use it, they would pay me the hours on my last paycheck of the year so it was an incentive to not take time off which of the 7 years I worked there, always got a few days worth of pay at the end. It's tough to not take a single day off (I had no sick or personal days) but I had no reason to take a chunk of time off cause it wasn't worth losing the money.
It's different now when its use it or lose it, but I haven't vacationed in over 6 years cause of the old mentality so its really nice to get away and unwind now.
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I'm a teacher. After 3 years at my place of employment, I was let go this June. Really messed up situation that my union and I are fighting.
I love teaching, working with high school kids, and my colleagues are mostly great. I have a passion for teaching math. Politics, though, SUCK. And the pay could be better considering that I and my other colleagues are molding minds for the real world. Like, an extra 10 grand would make the cost of living feel like we're getting paid adequately. I know quite a few teachers who work a second job over the summer because they have to.
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While overall I think Teachers don't get paid enough, i honestly think they do have it pretty good. At least in the US. Good benefits and not a lot of hours working overall especially when you consider the holidays and summers off. But I don't think it's an easy job and I think there is a lot of value in good teachers. Sorry to hear about your situation and wish you the best!
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I'm a teacher. After 3 years at my place of employment, I was let go this June. Really messed up situation that my union and I are fighting.
I love teaching, working with high school kids, and my colleagues are mostly great. I have a passion for teaching math. Politics, though, SUCK. And the pay could be better considering that I and my other colleagues are molding minds for the real world. Like, an extra 10 grand would make the cost of living feel like we're getting paid adequately. I know quite a few teachers who work a second job over the summer because they have to.
I'm sensitive to this, believe me, and as someone with two advanced degrees and sending my daughter to private school, I value education as much or more than the next guy. But I don't understand the mentality. Don't we all wish we had an extra $10K? Most of us have the little problem of their main vocation requiring 40+ hours a week, 52 weeks a year. They don't have as much opportunity to pursue that extra income. I get that kids are the priority, and some kids are certainly tougher than others, but I read stories like this, and I lose some of my sympathy:
https://www.journalinquirer.com/page_one/enfield-principal-disappears/article_0548cc80-f5ed-11e4-b3a4-8b335eb133b5.html
https://www.journalinquirer.com/page_one/enfield-principals-faulted-in-bus-driver-s-touching-of-student/article_bb054dc6-abb2-11e4-929f-8ff8842cce1c.html
https://www.courant.com/community/enfield/hc-enfield-prudence-crandall-principal-suspended-20150312-story.html
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I otherwise love my job, like I said. And of course there are some bad teachers and admins among the good. 10k was a ballpark, I know that the current pay scales turn away potential great teachers that could have been. Something so that I could rent a place without needing a roommate. It's ridiculous. Some sort of financial increase would help a lot. While the teaching hours are great, many teachers including myself spend extra hours writing lesson plans or tests because we care that our students receive quality instruction. We don't have to do that, but some of us care.
Sucks that, like any field, bad people exploit and take advantage of their positions. Really, beyond increasing the payscale, I think there should be a higher standard for teachers, maybe requiring a Master's or something else. More accountability on principals and admins, in my mere 3 years teaching I have seen some absymal abuse of power from administrators. The whole education system is messed up, Florida also has some shitty practices in place which only compound the issues.
I just don't think the payscale lines up well with the profession. Seems like in general, teachers are shit on from all sides (parents, students, admins, politicians, people who don't teach thinking it's easy, etc.)
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While overall I think Teachers don't get paid enough, i honestly think they do have it pretty good. At least in the US. Good benefits and not a lot of hours working overall especially when you consider the holidays and summers off.
While the teaching hours are great, many teachers including myself spend extra hours writing lesson plans or tests because we care that our students receive quality instruction. We don't have to do that, but some of us care.
Yeah the hours during the actual year are insane, as I coordinated things with some teachers as an outsider. It's not a 9 to 5 punch out thing, and I can only imagine those who contact parents how much more time they spend. This is speaking more from an elementary perspective. Teachers are there before the kids, and sometimes well after. Not factoring in preparing, grading and so on as you said Jamesman42. And I think the time off is not the same as it with kids, as there is wind up and wind down, and days kids have off that teachers don't. And kids who receive special ed/IEPs is another layer of paperwork and stuff.
Although I will say if I was a K-12 teacher, high school would be my choice. Screw elementary. :omg:
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^This guy gets it.
Also, I have the exact sentiments on elementary lol.
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The fact that even though I traded shifts with a coworker so he can do a pre 4th of July thing with his daughter tonight... So I'm going in at 3pm vs 7am.. and my phone starts ringing at 7am on the dot.
Lol sorry I'm not answering or responding till at least 2pm.
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I just don't think the payscale lines up well with the profession. Seems like in general, teachers are shit on from all sides (parents, students, admins, politicians, people who don't teach thinking it's easy, etc.)
My father just retired as a HS teacher. His last day was a month ago. He is also in Florida and he has said that things like that have never been worse.
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Being in contact with work when it's the weekend. I'm never off really.
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Being in contact with work when it's the weekend. I'm never off really.
Tell me about it. Friggin e-mails never end and I generally don't answer them or work on the solution to whatever issue when I'm off but when you see something really important or pressing that Pop's through its tough to ignore.
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I'm a package handler at UPS. We're overworked and purposefully understaffed. At times we receive so many packages at a time that it's humanly impossible to load them, so they just keep backing up, falling off and piling on the floor while there's nothing we can do but go as fast as we can and wait for the flow to finally slow down so we can catch up, only to then have the arduous task of picking all the ones piled on the floor. Then once that's done, they'll move you to another trailer and have you do it again. The work environment is dangerous, cramped, disgusting, and depressing. There's no air conditioning during the summer and very little ventilation. Sometimes the trailers cook out in the sun all day and they're almost literally like ovens. I'm talking like 110F of dusty, stagnant air if it's hot enough that day. Likewise, during winter, the trailers are at least as cold as it is outside. Dust + freezing temps = dried out, sore throat ALL winter long for me. Snow gets in the trailers. I've seen a whole trailer floor coated in ice. And we're expected to work on that.
For a multi-billion dollar company, you'd think we'd have paper towels in our bathrooms. NOPE. That's how frugal these people are. We used to have them, but they took them out to save money. We have no food options except for a couple vending machines. They only give us bottled water if it's above 90F outside, otherwise we drink from a rusty water fountain that smells like a dirty fish tank half the time. We aren't allowed any electronics whatsoever. That means no music (and they wont let us turn on a radio), no phone. The turnover rate is just comically bad. I could keep going on and on.
I feel like I just shit a lot on this job, but there are definitely things I like about it too or else I wouldn't have stayed for the last 2 years.
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I'm planning on going into pharmacy. I want work in a hospital, and that post from a while back hammered that point in for me. As for now, I'm in the process becoming certified as a pharmacy technician. Most states require you to pass a course and then do an "externship" in a pharmacy for 120 hours, but in Utah, it's 180 hours. I'm waiting for some textbooks to arrive, then I'm diving in.
Any advice from the more experienced pharmacists for someone going into the field?
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I've been a Pharmacy Assistant in a hospital (Canada) for 3 years now.
I'm not getting my technician certification, I'm going to remain an assistant cuz the money is already great and I don't want all the extra responsibility. As long as you're in a bigger hospital they'll always be positions for assistants that, even if they were certified technicians, wouldn't be using 85% of what their license even allows them to do so there's no point even getting it.
Being in the hospital/healthcare system is THE WAY to go. Retail blows. The money, hours, benefits, etc kick the shit out of anything in retail where it's all "where's my prescription, you're stupid, i don't pay for this, i didn't give you my plan card cuz it changed now you have to re-do it but i have to go and don't have time can't you just give it to me for free" and all that blah blah crap.
Here, check this out, it's perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzRt1x2FPk
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A good buddy of mine was an assitant in a pharmacy when we were a little younger. When he got his technician cert, his pay went up almost $10k per year. Probably depends on where you work though.
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Here, check this out, it's perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzRt1x2FPk
That's hilarious!
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I've been a Pharmacy Assistant in a hospital (Canada) for 3 years now.
I'm not getting my technician certification, I'm going to remain an assistant cuz the money is already great and I don't want all the extra responsibility. As long as you're in a bigger hospital they'll always be positions for assistants that, even if they were certified technicians, wouldn't be using 85% of what their license even allows them to do so there's no point even getting it.
Being in the hospital/healthcare system is THE WAY to go. Retail blows. The money, hours, benefits, etc kick the shit out of anything in retail where it's all "where's my prescription, you're stupid, i don't pay for this, i didn't give you my plan card cuz it changed now you have to re-do it but i have to go and don't have time can't you just give it to me for free" and all that blah blah crap.
Here, check this out, it's perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzRt1x2FPk
My wife is certified and is the Head Tech at her store. Been doing it for 17 years now.
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Here, check this out, it's perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzRt1x2FPk
That's hilarious!
:lol :rollin :lol
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At my hospital, Pharmacy Tech's start at $15 an hour, but can't even get the job without the certification. When I got the call that the job was mine and that the pay was $15, I almost passed out, considering that my current pay in retail at the time was $9 dollars an hour after 3 years.
Since I've been there, at the hospital, my pay has gone up by 50 cents every year consistancy and apparently tops out at $20 dollars and that aint bad for just a high school diploma and a tech certification. I'm currently at $17 dollars an hour, which makes me a happy camper, but I'm truly looking forward to the jump up to $55 dollars an hour when I finish school though :biggrin:
I'm planning on going into pharmacy. I want work in a hospital, and that post from a while back hammered that point in for me. As for now, I'm in the process becoming certified as a pharmacy technician. Most states require you to pass a course and then do an "externship" in a pharmacy for 120 hours, but in Utah, it's 180 hours. I'm waiting for some textbooks to arrive, then I'm diving in.
Any advice from the more experienced pharmacists for someone going into the field?
Were you thinking of Pharmacy Tech or Pharmacist?
For Pharmacy Tech, hospital is the way to go for sure
Places like rite aid and CVS, AKA Honduran sweat shop slavery factory shit world nightmares will take anyone, but hospital is like first class on the airplane. Not impossible to get up there, but still a lot more effort.
Every state is different, but I didn't take any course and didn't do any hours or anything. I signed up for the test, got the book online, then took the test 1 week later and passed. Then I spent 3 months applying to every hospital with in a 20 mile radius and just really hammered on the point of me being a pharmacy student. I got lucky and one of them finally took me and I love everyday of my life there. Its a beautiful and magical place and I truly love it.
For Pharmacist. Its 6 years total of school. Hard, but not crazy hard. 2 of pre-pharmacy (do it at community college, trust me) and 4 years of pharmacy school proper. It seems like a lot, but I'm 28 and there's people in my class in their late 30's so its never too late. Then around $100,000 dollars pay a year which differs a little more or a little less depending on state. Its a sweet gig, as long as you stay far the fuck away from wrong-aid and CV-Stress
(https://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/black_floyd_2007/vomit.gif) (https://s213.photobucket.com/user/black_floyd_2007/media/vomit.gif.html) Retail Pharmacy
Here, check this out, it's perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOzRt1x2FPk
That's hilarious!
:lol :rollin :lol
And yeah that's pretty much it. Now just pour acid in your eyes and shove some broken glass up your ass and then you'll have the full experience.
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A lot of cool people are leaving for Denver :(
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A lot of cool people are leaving for Denver :(
Denver doesn't seem to be a bad place to go, one of the guys I work with just moved there and gets to work remotely.
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A lot of cool people are leaving for Denver :(
Where did that come from? I had friends that moved to Denver (and Boulder) in the 90s, but they all came back to Southern California.
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A lot of cool people are leaving for Denver :(
Denver doesn't seem to be a bad place to go, one of the guys I work with just moved there and gets to work remotely.
People are moving here at an astounding rate.
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Is it marijuana? Any written about reasons?
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The only thing that sucks about my job is the vacuum cleaner.
:biggrin:
Thank you ! Thank You !
TRY THE MOTHER FUCKING SAUSAGE ! :angry:
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Is it marijuana? Any written about reasons?
Definitely, from what I read many families with children who have illnesses that medical marijuana can help with have moved there so they can support their children. Im sure there's also many that are going for the recreational use as well. I bet there are other reasons to move there as well, but I think the marijuana industry is the main reason for the spike.
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Quick update on the Pharmacy thing. I've been going through this course for a few hours a day lately. It's crazy. Nothing impossible, but I'm definitely studying more things that I expected (appropriate attire, attitude, the history of pharmacy, etc...). I'm still set on going into hospital pharmacy, and seeing that McPharmacy video hammered in the point :lol
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Is it marijuana? Any written about reasons?
Definitely, from what I read many families with children who have illnesses that medical marijuana can help with have moved there so they can support their children. Im sure there's also many that are going for the recreational use as well. I bet there are other reasons to move there as well, but I think the marijuana industry is the main reason for the spike.
The hospitality industry is really starting to boom as well. There's this slick as fuck huge new hotel being built by the airport and resturaunts are exploding, if you're going to school for something hospitality related, Denver is a great city to be in.
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Ugh...
Hotel front desk clerk has been my career life forever. I took on my first job for experience (and because my Dad was the manager, pretty sweet deal), and found that I rather enjoyed the line of work aside from a massive host of issues. I worked my fucking ass off that summer for a measly 8 dollars an hour, went back to school, and then picked up a few shifts here and there. The business fell apart after we had a minor fire that set off the sprinkler systems and fucked up the entire first floor. Yes, the sprinklers caused more damage than the actual fire. Cute.
Sum up of problems with job #1: Shitty owners who committed insurance fraud, generally treated employees like shit, cut costs at every possible turn, ran business into ground because everyone who worked there was miserable. Front desk workers had to run the desk, do laundry, and set up a fairly extensive breakfast in the morning. This is 3 or 4 peoples' jobs for 1 person for below minimum wage. We had 2 housekeepers for 83 rooms. I have no idea how in the holy fuck they made that work but they did. Maintenance guy was a complete twat that never did anything he was told and when he did he never solved any problems. Guests get mad at the desk in turn because there was nobody else to direct anger towards. Yeah. Good start.
Job #2 was a massive improvement. I managed to land a gig at the absolute nicest hotel in town. It was practically walking distance from my apartment, so no commute at all. Only problem was it was night auditing, which has its own set of problems. Overall, the property was run very well. The GM was generally pretty cool, at least to start (more on that later). The business did really well, selling out 4 or 5 days out of the week. Maintenance was good (ish), we had more like 10 housekeepers for 81 rooms, and the guests were usually pretty great. Really, all the issues of that job could be stemmed down to working nights. It was a miserable sleep schedule, and night workers basically had to do all the annoying shit that nobody else wanted to do earlier in the day. I really didn't mind this too much until I started getting called out almost every day through the log book by my immediate superior, and never getting the chance to defend myself because I never got to interact with any of the higher ups because of my sleep schedule. So I basically became a martyr for everything anyone was annoyed about. Kind of shitty, but I put up with it for a summer, quit on semi-decent terms, and went to finish school.
Finished school for music education, decided I hate my major. Whelp.
On to job #3. Now I'm working at an upscale hotel north of where I live. The desk people are treated like royalty, communication is frequent and easy, there are multiple departments to handle any and all issues, and life is utterly fantastic. I could do this job for the rest of my life.
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A lot of cool people are leaving for Denver :(
God I hope they're from SoCal.....
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Not this job per se - but any job...
Where you're literally *just* bout to do something and the manager comes in and asks you to do it.
Or asks you to do something when you're quite clearly already doing it.
:tdwn SO much rage.
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Not this job per se - but any job...
Where you're literally *just* bout to do something and the manager comes in and asks you to do it.
Or asks you to do something when you're quite clearly already doing it.
:tdwn SO much rage.
Slightly similar, when you are already packed up and ready to clearly leave for the day and your boss asks you to do one more thing... like you could have told me all day, but you waited until you saw I was leaving for the day to ask.
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Not this job per se - but any job...
Where you're literally *just* bout to do something and the manager comes in and asks you to do it.
Or asks you to do something when you're quite clearly already doing it.
:tdwn SO much rage.
I hate that too, but I have a way to turn that around, at least at my job.
I don't have a manager per say, but I work under and do what the pharmacists tell me to do, so when they pick up the phone I listen to what the nurse on the other line is asking them for and before they get off the phone I get it ready and put it in front of them to sign off on.
So when they get off the phone and ask me to get something, my response is " Its already right in front of you, can you sign off on it"
I love the people I work with, so its all in good fun really
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Why does my job suck? Hmm...let me count the ways...
To the point where the only thing that sucks worse than my shitty job is revising my resume and looking for a new one. So for now I'll continue just being miserable at my current job.
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Shortly after leaving my house this morning I legitimately considered letting an oncoming bus t-bone me just so I wouldn't have to go into work today.
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Shortly after leaving my house this morning I legitimately considered letting an oncoming bus t-bone me just so I wouldn't have to go into work today.
Honest question. Is this the new job you were getting at the end of last year?
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Shortly after leaving my house this morning I legitimately considered letting an oncoming bus t-bone me just so I wouldn't have to go into work today.
Honest question. Is this the new job you were getting at the end of last year?
Honest answer. Yes.
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You leave it will be the same job that will kill you at another place. you can't take less with the house now so you might as well build on what you have for 401 and vacation time.
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I figure I could take a $10k-$12k hit salary wise before I was in danger of losing the house. Finances are snug, but Victoria and I do indulge quite a bit (like last week when we randomly booked six nights in DC over Christmas). Either way, I wouldn't want to take a $10k hit unless it was part of a setup or investment that'd be returning that in the relative short term.
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We all fall into that work rut but in the end, it does afford you to have a nice house and like you said to travel. I massage my soul out of work to keep me sane.
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I fully anticipated one day hitting the work rut. I just didn't think it'd be at 26 :lol
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Shortly after leaving my house this morning I legitimately considered letting an oncoming bus t-bone me just so I wouldn't have to go into work today.
Honest question. Is this the new job you were getting at the end of last year?
Honest answer. Yes.
Honest reply. I'm sorry to hear that.
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I fully anticipated one day hitting the work rut. I just didn't think it'd be at 26 :lol
Wait until 47! :lol
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The fact that (as I keep going on about it) I haven't called put in over 2.5 years, and every day I'm dealing with call-outs. I'm not even at work yet and I'm searching for coverage. Today it's my supervisor (can't give him shit... he's got a lot of shit going on at home right now)... so not only am I searching for coverage for him, I get to handle anyshit that comes in, in his place. Mondays are usually my day to pass shit on to him and take a step back.
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The fact that (as I keep going on about it) I haven't called put in over 2.5 years, and every day I'm dealing with call-outs. I'm not even at work yet and I'm searching for coverage. Today it's my supervisor (can't give him shit... he's got a lot of shit going on at home right now)... so not only am I searching for coverage for him, I get to handle anyshit that comes in, in his place. Mondays are usually my day to pass shit on to him and take a step back.
That sucks. And it annoys me just as much.
I've been offered management positions and have had management position and never again will I ever have anything to do with them. Adult babysitter all the way. I'm just happy that my regular job allows me to have the life I want to have without having to seek out the higher pay of a management position.
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I don't like the attire. It's 96 degrees outside and I have to wear long pants and a long sleeve button down. It's 2015. I sit in a cubicle and stare at a screen all day, and I occasionally have to sit in a meeting room with other people who are otherwise in cubicles all day. Let me throw on a comfortable pair of shorts and a polo for fucks sake.
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I don't like the attire. It's 96 degrees outside and I have to wear long pants and a long sleeve button down. It's 2015. I sit in a cubicle and stare at a screen all day, and I occasionally have to sit in a meeting room with other people who are otherwise in cubicles all day. Let me throw on a comfortable pair of shorts and a polo for fucks sake.
A previous job had me wear a suit every day, yet my job required me to do physical work in a data center. Lifting servers, running cables, getting on your hands as needed if something was lower in the server rack. Such a stupid policy and it was all about appearance in the office.
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I don't like the attire. It's 96 degrees outside and I have to wear long pants and a long sleeve button down. It's 2015. I sit in a cubicle and stare at a screen all day, and I occasionally have to sit in a meeting room with other people who are otherwise in cubicles all day. Let me throw on a comfortable pair of shorts and a polo for fucks sake.
A previous job had me wear a suit every day, yet my job required me to do physical work in a data center. Lifting servers, running cables, getting on your hands as needed if something was lower in the server rack. Such a stupid policy and it was all about appearance in the office.
Man, that really blows. Agreed about the stupidity of the policy. If you're in an environment where you have massive clients coming in and out, I can almost understand it. But I'm a business analyst. I work on the 6th floor of some random nearby building that my company leases in downtown Hartford. We have no one coming through. I'm not saying let me come in with basketball shorts and a t-shirt on, but at least let be be comfortable if I'm going to be chained to a desk. The girls get to where skirts and sleeveless shirts. Jealous.
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I think as time goes by you'll see more companies having no dress codes. My company has this policy, the CEO wears shorts and flip flops while he holds company wide meetings. It's a trend of dressing down that's been going on for a long time now. There will always be the client facing employees who need to hold appearances, but I think over time the regular office workers will be dressing down more and more.
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The idea of not being able to wear scrubs was tried once a few years ago at my job, but the whole department flipped the fuck out and shot it down real quick.
I'm not giving up wearing pajamas to work ;D
But I feel for people that have an uncomfortable dress code though. I always hated that.
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I think as time goes by you'll see more companies having no dress codes. My company has this policy, the CEO wears shorts and flip flops while he holds company wide meetings. It's a trend of dressing down that's been going on for a long time now. There will always be the client facing employees who need to hold appearances, but I think over time the regular office workers will be dressing down more and more.
Perhaps I'm showing my age, but I push back on that. I can see long pants and a polo shirt, but anything else is now going the other way in my opinion. Maybe because I'm higher than middle management, there's a level of respect that has to be earned/given, and frankly, looking at someone's bony knees and gnarly toes in a board meeting is a big fail for me. Absent something like sensory processing disorder, it's just another way of taking the easy way out and making it all about the worker and not the work. Hell, I work out of the house by myself and most days I dress better than that (today, I have a long sleeve button down shirt, a pair of Dockers shorts, and no shoes).
Not speaking about any one person here, but a common theme in these types of threads is "management blows, they promoted [insert local douchebag] over me, but I would've kicked the shit out of that job!" and I wonder if stuff like this isn't beginning to answer why that might have happened. I think we like to think it's "all about the work" but there is too much data, too much history to show that like it or not, that isn't true. If you don't care enough to dress with a little dignity, or are so sensitive that the kind of shirt you wear throws you off your game, how are you going to be in a real pressure situation?
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The first 2 years of college I was studying business, and I was going for management.
Now though I'm a psychology major and plan to get my Master's in counseling, and become a guidance counselor at a school. I think this is what I'm ultimately going to be happy with. Business didn't interest me, it just felt convenient. I'm still minoring in it though if that really means anything.
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I think as time goes by you'll see more companies having no dress codes. My company has this policy, the CEO wears shorts and flip flops while he holds company wide meetings. It's a trend of dressing down that's been going on for a long time now. There will always be the client facing employees who need to hold appearances, but I think over time the regular office workers will be dressing down more and more.
Perhaps I'm showing my age, but I push back on that. I can see long pants and a polo shirt, but anything else is now going the other way in my opinion. Maybe because I'm higher than middle management, there's a level of respect that has to be earned/given, and frankly, looking at someone's bony knees and gnarly toes in a board meeting is a big fail for me. Absent something like sensory processing disorder, it's just another way of taking the easy way out and making it all about the worker and not the work. Hell, I work out of the house by myself and most days I dress better than that (today, I have a long sleeve button down shirt, a pair of Dockers shorts, and no shoes).
I think you come from the field of law right? I think that will always be a business type of uniform. I work for a tech company, and like google and the rest of all the tech start ups that have become big, dress codes have become non existent. It also seemed like the younger generations value wearing a suit to work everyday less than the previous generation. Even my own father used to wear a suit everyday and now wears business casual and he is above middle management for a global bank. But this is all from my view of the world in the bubble I live in, I could always be completely wrong.
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I think as time goes by you'll see more companies having no dress codes. My company has this policy, the CEO wears shorts and flip flops while he holds company wide meetings. It's a trend of dressing down that's been going on for a long time now. There will always be the client facing employees who need to hold appearances, but I think over time the regular office workers will be dressing down more and more.
Not speaking about any one person here, but a common theme in these types of threads is "management blows, they promoted [insert local douchebag] over me, but I would've kicked the shit out of that job!" and I wonder if stuff like this isn't beginning to answer why that might have happened. I think we like to think it's "all about the work" but there is too much data, too much history to show that like it or not, that isn't true. If you don't care enough to dress with a little dignity, or are so sensitive that the kind of shirt you wear throws you off your game, how are you going to be in a real pressure situation?
Dress with a little dignity? Who defines that standard? People used to wear suits just because they were getting on a plane or going to a baseball game. Why'd that stop? Why don't employers treat their employees with some dignity and judge them based on work ethic and what they deliver rather than what they wear? Oh yeah, most of the successful ones have already figured that out.
SpaceX
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Dragon_capsule_and_SpaceX_employees_(16491695667).jpg)
Netflix
(https://media.bizj.us/view/img/5534391/netflix-12-040315*1200xx5390-3032-0-167.jpg)
Uber
(https://b-i.forbesimg.com/tomiogeron/files/2013/09/BUi-GOeCMAEMRWF1.jpeg)
Yahoo
(https://www.shalomlife.com/img/2015/07/29498/61413660991499640360no_/400_300_61413660991499640360no_.jpg)
Google
(https://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5012bd82ecad04787700000a/a-good-place-to-work.jpg)
Facebook
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2010/09/25/business/Facebook/Facebook-popup.jpg)
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To go with that post, let me add my company in on this since we consider ourself in that same group
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcfFj1wy0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFcfFj1wy0I)
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I really don't understand the dignity comment. The dignity should lie in your work, not on your exterior. I have friends under the age 30 making $125k a year as software/security developers for a fiber optic cable company here in CT. They wears jeans and a t-shirt every day. Pretty sure companies are way more interested in what their bottom line says rather than what their employees look like hiding behind their monitors all day. If simply allowing an employee to wear a t-shirt allows them to not be drenched in sweat by noon, and that gives the employee a better attitude and results in better productivity, why would you not do it?
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I really don't understand the dignity comment. The dignity should lie in your work, not on your exterior. I have friends under the age 30 making $125k a year as software/security developers for a fiber optic cable company here in CT. They wears jeans and a t-shirt every day. Pretty sure companies are way more interested in what their bottom line says rather than what their employees look like hiding behind their monitors all day. If simply allowing an employee to wear a t-shirt allows them to not be drenched in sweat by noon, and that gives the employee a better attitude and results in better productivity, why would you not do it?
I agree completely.
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Agreed, but like I said, I can see client facing workers always being required to dress to impress. A lot of people do still put value in "looking the part" per se. For people in an office, who the fuck cares what you wear IMO. I agree with the statement if people are more comfortable, then they are more happy in the work environment which leads to more production.
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Agreed. There are things that require a certain degree of formality, but sitting in my cubicle while listening to Steel Panther isn't one of them.
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I think as time goes by you'll see more companies having no dress codes. My company has this policy, the CEO wears shorts and flip flops while he holds company wide meetings. It's a trend of dressing down that's been going on for a long time now. There will always be the client facing employees who need to hold appearances, but I think over time the regular office workers will be dressing down more and more.
Not speaking about any one person here, but a common theme in these types of threads is "management blows, they promoted [insert local douchebag] over me, but I would've kicked the shit out of that job!" and I wonder if stuff like this isn't beginning to answer why that might have happened. I think we like to think it's "all about the work" but there is too much data, too much history to show that like it or not, that isn't true. If you don't care enough to dress with a little dignity, or are so sensitive that the kind of shirt you wear throws you off your game, how are you going to be in a real pressure situation?
Dress with a little dignity? Who defines that standard? People used to wear suits just because they were getting on a plane or going to a baseball game. Why'd that stop? Why don't employers treat their employees with some dignity and judge them based on work ethic and what they deliver rather than what they wear? Oh yeah, most of the successful ones have already figured that out.
Oh, ok. I remember when the internet boom hit, and the big fad was foozball and flipflops, and Jack Welch told them to go F themselves. Most of those companies are gone (or swallowed up) and GE is still one of the top 5 companies in the world, and the premier leader in business management. So, yeah, the successful ones HAVE determined what works. As for the "cubicle" thing, you still walk in and out of the building. So people see smartly dressed men and women walking into your building, or a group of kids who look like they are looking for the bathroom after a Dave Matthews concert. You'd be right if it was all about the employee, but it's not. Like it or not (and clearly you don't) you are representing. As long as that is the case, it's not your call to make.
And in any event, since you are a "FACTS" and "SCIENCE" guy, check these out:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ruchikatulshyan/2013/10/17/is-casual-dress-killing-your-productivity-at-work/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/new-study-what-you-wear-could-affect-how-well-you-work/2011/04/01/gIQAssHomR_blog.html
So if you're about "dignity", why would you ever put your employer in the position of paying for inferior quality production?
As for the planes, well, I think we had that conversation here a while ago. That's a problem too. Nothing worse than sitting down next to some douche whose gross fungus ridden toes are now in full view (and smell) and mere inches from me. Have some decency and some consideration. The world is not your bedroom.
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And in any event, since you are a "FACTS" and "SCIENCE" guy, check these out:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ruchikatulshyan/2013/10/17/is-casual-dress-killing-your-productivity-at-work/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/new-study-what-you-wear-could-affect-how-well-you-work/2011/04/01/gIQAssHomR_blog.html
So if you're about "dignity", why would you ever put your employer in the position of paying for inferior quality production?
As for the planes, well, I think we had that conversation here a while ago. That's a problem too. Nothing worse than sitting down next to some douche whose gross fungus ridden toes are now in full view (and smell) and mere inches from me. Have some decency and some consideration. The world is not your bedroom.
I just read both, and there is not a single FACT in either, other then referencing the same study done with doctors and the white coats. Which honestly is more like uniform IMO, but I can see how they draw the conclusions, both articles also say there is no proof in what you wear effects how you work. I personally feel if you feel comfortable, you work better, it may only be my opinion since I don't know any studies done on that end of the spectrum.
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And in any event, since you are a "FACTS" and "SCIENCE" guy, check these out:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ruchikatulshyan/2013/10/17/is-casual-dress-killing-your-productivity-at-work/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-leadership/post/new-study-what-you-wear-could-affect-how-well-you-work/2011/04/01/gIQAssHomR_blog.html
Lol. You call those facts?
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/02/03/business/Zuckerbergjp/Zuckerbergjp-articleLarge-v2.jpg)
(https://www.forestethics.org/sites/forestethics.huang.radicaldesigns.org/files/styles/blog_featured/public/tesla-elon-musk.jpg?itok=z2_e6cH1)
(https://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4d6e894449e2aeaf77010000/steve-jobs-is-on-stage-at-ipad-2-event.jpg)
At no point did I say I wanted to wear open toe sandals, or even a t-shirt for that matter. All I said was I'd like to wear a nice pair of shorts and a polo.
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Pixar's offices look like the coolest place to work
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(https://bizzsmart.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/025_f0_slide.jpg)
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Look at that guy in the shed, I don't think I've ever seen someone with less dignity.
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Look at that guy in the shed, I don't think I've ever seen someone with less dignity.
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He was being sarcastic. :lol
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I guess that shed is like having your own office? :lol
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I'd want my office to be the apartment from TS2
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I have power that could mean death for people, if I'm not careful. Also, stressful when my schedule was crammed back to back to back- but the first is the welcome but scary challenge. The later was something I should and will exert more control over if recommended to me again.
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Hmmm, where to begin...
There have been no raises in God knows how long (except for upper management)
No gratitude or appreciation
No decent benefits
No sick days (used to have them, they went bye-bye)
Overall depressing work environment
Equipment is junk and in disrepair
Not getting the Friday after Thanksgiving off like the rest of the non-retail civilized world
Not getting Christmas Eve off
Management are a bunch of clueless douchebags
The foreman treats the people under him like dirt
That's all I can think of now.