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Title: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: comment on June 10, 2015, 05:05:52 PM
Predictions anyone?

Just for fun:  What date do you predict DT will give us an official update on the new DT13?

Guess the date of the update and whoever guesses the closest wins.  For extra credit see if you can guess the album release date.  Or whatever...
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: comment on June 10, 2015, 05:08:45 PM
I think next Friday June 19th will be the day.  And they'll release the new album on Sept 28.  Yep that'll work! 
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on June 10, 2015, 05:11:39 PM
Unlucky 13. The album will be released on Halloween.

...so october 31st...
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: Sacul on June 12, 2015, 12:20:32 AM
The album will be released on Halloween.
And it will have some cheesy title like Nightmare Cinema Pt.2: The Rudess Vengeance  :P
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: comment on June 12, 2015, 09:47:01 AM
 :laugh:

Do you guys have a prediction on when they'll update us from the studio on this Haloween release?
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: TAC on June 12, 2015, 09:49:49 AM
I'm predicting that at this point, well have an update on JP's solo album first.
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: comment on June 12, 2015, 09:58:05 AM
I'm predicting that at this point, well have an update on JP's solo album first.

 :laugh:

I'll take that!  Suspended Animation was kewl, I'd love to hear an update on the sequel!
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on June 12, 2015, 10:01:39 AM
You do know that from the front page of the forum, this reads "New Album Update..."

And for that, I hate you, OP.
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: rumborak on June 12, 2015, 10:09:50 AM
Give how JP said they won't play any new material on this tour, and how awkward it would be to tour with a new single out but not playing it, I suspect the new single won't be released before August 2nd.
So, I think the lack of news will persist for quite some time.
Title: Re: New Album Update Prediction Thread
Post by: comment on June 12, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
You do know that from the front page of the forum, this reads "New Album Update..."

And for that, I hate you, OP.

 :rollin

I totally understand the hate.  That's hilarious!  I had no idea, it must be the way my iPhone displays.  I'll switch it around.

Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: JediKnight1969 on June 12, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
It's gonna be a concept album.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Implode on June 12, 2015, 11:44:48 AM
There's going to be a song that starts off all quite like for a section then BAM wall of sound comes in with the main theme. Then after the intro, there will be a verse with an angry sounding LaBrie that leads into a prechorus. But instead of going to the chorus, they'll go to verse 2 first. Then prechorus again before that theme returns in full volume for the chorus. Then after a few bars of power chord transitions, JR comes in with a ripping solo with his signature patch sound. That will leader into a technically impressive solo by JP who will make it sound effortless. Then after a drumfill, they'll come in for a short unison. That will lead into another prechorus/chorus/repeat/outro thing song over.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: zecawolf on June 12, 2015, 11:56:06 AM
I would like to know how are they gonna begin a tour late june and still work on an album. It's not sarcasm, I may be not aware of a certain methodology of theirs....anybody knows how this goes?
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: ResultsMayVary on June 12, 2015, 12:00:59 PM
I would like to know how are they gonna begin a tour late june and still work on an album. It's not sarcasm, I may be not aware of a certain methodology of theirs....anybody knows how this goes?
I see it as one of two things:

1) They've finished all tracking before the summer festivals and wait to mix/master when JP and the guys are off tour.

2) They finished basic tracks and need to return for solos, overdubs, and vocals (or something similar)

Hell, they could be completely done with it, but since they said no new material on the festival tour, that really makes me think it won't be a September release. Mostly because the last two releases they released a single before the summer festivals and the album came out early fall.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: bosk1 on June 12, 2015, 12:02:50 PM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process. 
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: ResultsMayVary on June 12, 2015, 12:06:00 PM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Cedar redaC on June 12, 2015, 12:11:34 PM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Ain't that the truth.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rumborak on June 12, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Ain't that the truth.

Whether that's truth is pure speculation.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: bosk1 on June 12, 2015, 01:00:54 PM
:lol  My response was directed at zecawolf.  I mean, yeah, we can speculate about where they are in the process.  But no matter where they are, there are always any number of things that can potentially be done while on the road or after returning.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: TAC on June 12, 2015, 01:12:11 PM
Hoping this tour will produce awesome live photos for the album sleeve..um..CD booklet.

And I have no inside information, but I am expecting a double CD. Serious.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: zecawolf on June 12, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
Sure there are. But I find it somewhat difficult to put an album together this way, I think it's very easy to lose focus. But that's me, Maybe they enjoy the "rest" between sessions.....
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rumborak on June 12, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
I think it's pretty safe to say that all the instruments are recorded (since JR went back into the studio weeks ago to "touch up" some stuff). Which means the mixing will definitely be done before they go on tour. The last thing remaining is mastering, and that can easily be done via email.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Sacul on June 13, 2015, 12:53:58 AM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Ain't that the truth.

Whether that's truth is pure speculation.
The truth is the truth. All we can do is live with it.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Octavarious on June 13, 2015, 01:58:08 AM
I would like to know how are they gonna begin a tour late june and still work on an album. It's not sarcasm, I may be not aware of a certain methodology of theirs....anybody knows how this goes?
I see it as one of two things:

1) They've finished all tracking before the summer festivals and wait to mix/master when JP and the guys are off tour.

2) They finished basic tracks and need to return for solos, overdubs, and vocals (or something similar)

Hell, they could be completely done with it, but since they said no new material on the festival tour, that really makes me think it won't be a September release. Mostly because the last two releases they released a single before the summer festivals and the album came out early fall.
I definitely believe it's option 1.
So release date would be probably somewhere in November, not before.
In good times for a nice Christmas combo with the DVD/BR taken in the summer tour... Nothing over-produced, just a nice cut from shooting done in one of the most impressive locations they would go... (Definitely the one I' going to- can't beat it)  :tup
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: jmasterx on June 13, 2015, 05:48:38 AM
A November release date makes sense to me because:
For a good while up to and including ADTOE, they released in September and were touring by October.
DT12 saw them only start touring in January, almost 4 months after DT12's release.
They probably will release in November, just in time for the holiday season, and start touring in January like last time.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Cedar redaC on June 13, 2015, 10:39:03 AM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Ain't that the truth.

Whether that's truth is pure speculation.

Yo dawg, we heard you like speculation, so we put speculation in your speculation so you can speculate your speculation while your speculation speculates speculation.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Zydar on June 13, 2015, 10:42:30 AM
Well that's just speculation at this point.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 13, 2015, 10:44:55 AM
I, for one, don't believe a word of it.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 13, 2015, 10:59:39 AM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: SuperTaco on June 13, 2015, 01:06:00 PM
I predict that there will be a snare drum.

Maybe some bass.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Dublagent66 on June 13, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
I predict we'll get the same thing we've been getting for quite some time.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: darkshade on June 13, 2015, 04:37:00 PM
I predict more complaining about the drum sound and overall production quality.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: RoeDent on June 13, 2015, 04:58:21 PM
They haven't done a 10-track album yet, so I'll predict that. Longest track a "mid-length epic", 14-16 minutes.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Sacul on June 13, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
The band will stick with Hugh Syme for the next artwork, and everbody's gonna bitch about it.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Kotowboy on June 17, 2015, 03:51:28 AM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: marillionaire on June 18, 2015, 06:58:42 AM
I'm thinking it will be a 3 CD set. You know, one CD for each 10 years? :xbones :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 18, 2015, 07:27:47 AM
I predict that it will be more proggy than the last album.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Zydar on June 18, 2015, 07:28:34 AM
Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 18, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol
:lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rumborak on June 18, 2015, 02:19:04 PM
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/rumborak/in_silencia_zpsa4c31099.jpg)

That's still my prediction of album cover and track list.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 18, 2015, 02:24:35 PM
lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: comment on June 18, 2015, 02:54:59 PM
I'm still predicting tomorrow they'll throw us an update.  Here's hoping anyway.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: comment on June 20, 2015, 03:54:47 AM
Well my dates are off.  Let's see if last nights dream helps.  I dreamt that Dream Theaters next album would be a concept album.  It was something that had been worked on in 07' and again in 10' or something.  That would be cool to find they have some magnum opus they've squirreled away and have been refining over time.

So I'm predicting concept album.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Train of Naught on June 20, 2015, 04:12:26 AM
(https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v410/rumborak/in_silencia_zpsa4c31099.jpg)

That's still my prediction of album cover and track list.
Need to quote this to remind me
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Kotowboy on June 20, 2015, 04:36:21 PM
I'm thinking it will be a 3 CD set. You know, one CD for each 10 years? :xbones :metal :metal :metal

pffft. This is Dream Theater we're talking about....













..30 CD album  :metal
1 song on each disc lasting 75 mins.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rush-signals on June 21, 2015, 04:55:30 PM
I predict the drums will sound like a drum machine again.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Thoughtspart3 on June 21, 2015, 08:02:27 PM
Please don't sat that.  The drum sound really detracted from my enjoyment of the last album, especially the snare.  I even tried to ignore it thinking I was being too picky but I have a hard time doing it.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: GasparXR on June 22, 2015, 03:35:23 PM
I predict that the upcoming album will be their 13th. Also, it will be by Dream Theater. In addition, it will contain musical notes, and will be X minutes long where X is the length of the music on the CD. You heard it here first!
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rumborak on June 22, 2015, 03:52:40 PM
Please don't sat that.  The drum sound really detracted from my enjoyment of the last album, especially the snare.  I even tried to ignore it thinking I was being too picky but I have a hard time doing it.

I would like nothing better to be proven wrong, but MM is a really hard hitter who likes super-tight snares. I too suspect the new album will sound similar to DT12 in terms of drums.
That said, if they could just recreate the BTFW drum sound, that would go a long way.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: comment on June 25, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Okay... So now their on tour.  A bit peeved they didn't release an update when they finished in the studio.  Last word was in Feb, so...  I predict we'll hear something from the road, guess that's how it's going to be.  Here's wishing for better PR coverage!
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: bosk1 on June 25, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
Okay... So now their on tour.  A bit peeved they didn't release an update when they finished in the studio.  Last word was in Feb, so...  I predict we'll hear something from the road, guess that's how it's going to be.  Here's wishing for better PR coverage!


Who said they finished?
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: rumborak on June 25, 2015, 06:58:26 PM
Depends on your definition of "finished". Are they done recording? Absolutely. JR said weeks ago that he was going back in for some touch-ups. That's something yiu do at the end of recording, or even after that.
Are they done with mixing? Likely. Mastering might still be in the process, who knows.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: comment on June 25, 2015, 09:40:04 PM
Yeah, who knows.  I missed JP's touch ups comment.  I just thought we'd hear something more is all.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: ? on June 26, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
From the thread for the opening night of the tour:
Before CIAW James said they're gonna play songs from each album on this tour and they did.
Later on he said they're working on the album, which is not 100% finished yet, but will be right after this tour. Planned release date is Jan 2016 and then obviously a world tour (he also promiced to come in Minsk again on that tour, but that's probably what he would say at any show).
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: adamack on July 04, 2015, 12:01:20 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol

HAHAHAHAHA! This comment and response killed me for some reason.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: KevShmev on July 05, 2015, 12:59:20 PM
I predict more complaining about the drum sound and overall production quality.

You and me both.  As much as I like both ADTOE and DT12, both don't sound as good as they should. For a band that has been around as long as DT has, there is no excuse for them releasing records that sound that muddy (ADTOE) or loud (DT12).  Thank God for the HD versions. :tup :tup
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: NotePad on July 06, 2015, 11:28:32 AM
Since the last album was very guitar based in comparison to most other albums, I predict they will continue in that direction. Only this time it will be darker. There will be more raw sounding riffs that will be more hard hitting and to the point, for DT at least ;p.

Im not saying it will be Awake part 2, I don't see them ever doing something that raw or dark again, but it will be more riff-ey like Awake except polished. Labrie won't sing so softly this time. His voice will have more rasp but other than that he won't challenge himself or do anything as impressive as he did on Awake or I&W.

I consider there to be two categories for DT albums: the albums like I&W and the albums like Awake.
Albums like I&W: SFAM, ADToE, Systematic Chaos to name a few
Albums !like Awake: 8vM, FII, Dt12, ToT to name a few....
Yea I know, but its how my mind works....

I predict their next album to fall Into the Awake category. Most songs will be between 4 and 7 minutes, with no songs longer then 9 minutes. There also won't be so much keyboard wankery. JR will p!ay more for mood and atmosphere.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: CDrice on July 06, 2015, 12:55:59 PM
I think the next album will be called ''Vocals into Infinity''. They'll write the album as they usually do, but for the recording each member will play their parts with only their voices. That's why the album will be out next year instead of this one. It's because this process takes a bit more time than what they usually do!

...and also because it's a quintuple album with each CDs containing a single 58 minutes songs...

 :coolio


Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 06, 2015, 01:03:56 PM
I think the next album will be called ''Vocals into Infinity''. They'll write the album as they usually do, but for the recording each member will play their parts with only their voices. That's why the album will be out next year instead of this one. It's because this process takes a bit more time than what they usually do!

...and also because it's a quintuple album with each CDs containing a single 58 minutes songs...

 :coolio






"Ok John (Myung), what are you singing?"



....bass
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: CDrice on July 06, 2015, 01:21:19 PM
"Ok John (Myung), what are you singing?"

*starts throat-singing* ...baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasss

This is more accurate  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 07, 2015, 11:03:21 AM
I consider there to be two categories for DT albums: the albums like I&W and the albums like Awake.
Albums like I&W: SFAM, ADToE, Systematic Chaos to name a few
Albums !like Awake: 8vM, FII, Dt12, ToT to name a few....
Yea I know, but its how my mind works....
I think that SC would be thrilled to be associated with I&W.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: wasteland on July 07, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
I don't remember where and when, but I read that ToT is basically IAW gone all metal.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: emtee on July 07, 2015, 01:19:26 PM
JR said it would something a little different. I predict that upon hearing it I will disagree with his assessment.

I would love to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: CDrice on July 07, 2015, 01:54:09 PM
JR said it would something a little different.

Well, well... my prediction about an all vocal album is getting more plausible then.    ;D
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: chaossystem on July 07, 2015, 07:57:45 PM
I think it is impossible to say simply because we have no idea where they are in the process.
True, but this forum wouldn't be DTF without baseless speculation.
Ain't that the truth.

Whether that's truth is pure speculation.

Yo dawg, we heard you like speculation, so we put speculation in your speculation so you can speculate your speculation while your speculation speculates speculation.

Can I speculate about all of these things?
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: The Curious Orange on July 10, 2015, 06:51:40 AM
I predict the new album will do away with all the compression, brickwalling and loudness-warring that has plagued recent albums, and will be a real audiophile quality release. You know, on the CD version, and not the Hi-Res FLAC download version or some other sh1t.

But I expect I will be wrong.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Cedar redaC on July 10, 2015, 07:14:34 AM
I think it would be cool to see Dream Theater experiment into some new territory, like electronic music or even something crazy like big band. I thinking they'd find a way to be innovative and tasteful about it.

But seriously, I'll get the new album no matter what direction they take.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: KevShmev on July 11, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
I don't remember where and when, but I read that ToT is basically IAW gone all metal.

I think it's more like Master of Puppets gone full prog.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Kotowboy on February 28, 2016, 12:40:49 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol


WELL ... haha it doesn't even get to two minutes :lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Enigmachine on February 28, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
I think it would be cool to see Dream Theater experiment into some new territory, like electronic music or even something crazy like big band. I thinking they'd find a way to be innovative and tasteful about it.

But seriously, I'll get the new album no matter what direction they take.

This was correct, thanks to the NOMAC tracks and Three Days (although it's more swing than Big Band).

I predict the new album will do away with all the compression, brickwalling and loudness-warring that has plagued recent albums, and will be a real audiophile quality release. You know, on the CD version, and not the Hi-Res FLAC download version or some other sh1t.

But I expect I will be wrong.

This was rectified as well.

Well my dates are off.  Let's see if last nights dream helps.  I dreamt that Dream Theaters next album would be a concept album.  It was something that had been worked on in 07' and again in 10' or something.  That would be cool to find they have some magnum opus they've squirreled away and have been refining over time.

So I'm predicting concept album.

Was kind of true, though instead of being worked on for 5-8 years (lolnuggets), it was worked on for 2.5.

I predict that it will be more proggy than the last album.

This was true from a certain point of view. Not as many long songs or as much technicality, but has more varied song structures, diversity, subtle compositional complexity and recurring themes that are aspects of a very proggy album.

And I have no inside information, but I am expecting a double CD. Serious.

True.

There were some surprisingly accurate predictions here.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: MirrorMask on February 28, 2016, 12:58:06 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol

WELL ... haha it doesn't even get to two minutes :lol

How many chances there were, actually?  :lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Train of Naught on February 28, 2016, 01:15:46 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol
Well this turned out to be the most epic fail ever.. track 4 is shorter than 2 minutes  :lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Darkstarshades on February 28, 2016, 01:17:09 PM
2:33 - 3:29 of Track 4 is going to be mind blowing

U HERD IT HERE FIRST FROM ME

Quoting this so I can find it :lol
Well this turned out to be the most epic fail ever.. track 4 is shorter than 2 minutes  :lol

If he had said "Track 5" it would have been fairly accurate.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: CDrice on February 28, 2016, 05:23:30 PM
Well, Begin Again is track 4 of the second disc... however mindblowing is not the term I'd use to describe the the part from 2:33 - 3:29. So it's an epic fail anyway :lol
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: Darkstarshades on February 28, 2016, 05:48:33 PM
I once said jokingly that Ahrys would be the hero as he will sacrifice his life and neglect his kid and wife. Then someone else said "All for Gabriel to be Happy"

Fuck.
Title: Re: Predictions For The New Album
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 28, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
fuck