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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on May 06, 2015, 04:56:35 PM
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With the set list leaking early, and the tour starting this week, I think it makes more sense to have a thread dedicated to the tour, that way fans who don't want spoilers before their show can still read the regular Rush thread without having to avert their eyes or without those who want to discuss it having to put everything in spoiler tags, thereby making the discussion look silly. So, here we go.
I was gonna be one of those "I don't want to see the set list before my show" people, especially with my show next Thursday, but I simply have no will power when it comes to Rush and this. :lol :lol
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Same, I can't help myself.
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Now, regarding the stuff that has been leaked, while the thought of them dragging One Little Victory out again is nauseating, if they play Jacob's Ladder, I won't care what else they play.
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I know. Of all the songs to play again....
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I'm underwhelmed by what I've seen, but will hold off on being too critical until I see what the remaining songs are that are not listed in the credits. But there definitely is a few that are listed that I could certainly do without, such as Roll the Bones, One Little Victory and the usual bunch of perennial favorites that always end up in the setlist. I'm still holding out hope for Cut to the Chase, but am losing hope that Vapor Trail, Available Light and/or Open Secrets may make the cut. And of course, no Fear trilogy. :-[
At least they're touring one more time, but it's hard not to be disappointed judging by what we know now.
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Well, assuming what we've seen of the set list is true, you can't expect them to not play Tom Sawyer, 2112, The Spirit of Radio, etc. on what is not only their 40th anniversary tour, but likely their last tour ever.
I would love to see those songs you mentioned, especially Open Secrets and the Fear tunes. I love Available Light, too, but I'd rather not hear Geddy strain to hit that main line, and you know it would be bad. :lol Plus, I think it is such a deep cut, off of one of their least popular albums, that I think most fans wouldn't care about it.
I just hope they rock Animate out this time, instead of the slowed-down version they have done live. Play the damn song at normal temp and stop chopping the choruses in half. The song is perfect as is on the CD; play it just like that! :metal
And it is too much to ask for them to play Xanadu from start to finish just once more? They haven't done that since the freaking 80s. Enough of those abridged versions of Xanadu and By-Tor; play them in full!!!
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Where can the setlist be found?
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https://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2015/05/04/4332/Rush-R40-Live-tour-VIP-package-merchandise-shipping-tourbook-contains-setlist-SPOILERS
Note: it is not completed yet.
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Some usual suspects, but nice setlist overall
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It's pretty safe, but Jacob's Ladder being in there is very cool. One Little Victory should not be there.
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I just hope they rock Animate out this time, instead of the slowed-down version they have done live. Play the damn song at normal temp and stop chopping the choruses in half. The song is perfect as is on the CD; play it just like that!
I'm laughing as I imagine when they get to that spot in the setlist and they all put down their instruments while Alex runs over to an ipod/CD player/whatever and just hits the "play" button.
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I posted this in the other thread, but since we've got an obviously marked SPOILER warning here, I can share my thoughts on the KNOWN set list as it stands.
Obviously, the songs listed in the tourbook are definites for the tour, but just because they have video/lighting arrangements tied to them doesn't necessarily mean they'll play each of them on each night. IIRC, some of the songs they alternate might have some video, right? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, and I could be, but just because a song is listed as having video doesn't mean they'll do it each night....or does it? I'm not sure... :facepalm:
Anyways, onto the known set list itself:
Looks like the show opens with a video titled "The World Is... The World Is...", an obvious reference to the lyrics of "Tom Sawyer", then going into something called "R40 Screen Animation", which I can assume is something similar to the R30 video, which features nods to all of the band's album covers, and since then, we've had two new studio albums, a couple compilations and a few live albums to include!
The first set includes the following songs -
Clockwork Angels
The Anarchist
The Wreckers
Headlong Flight
Big Money
Far Cry
I see "Far Cry" is closing a set again, which is fine. Being an album opener, it's destined to be a set opener or closer, but there's only 6 songs shown here, so I'm willing to bet there are at least 3-4 more songs not listed here without video, and maybe one or two of those will be A/B swapped on alternate nights. Four songs from CA, which is nice to start the show with, as it gets the recent material "out of the way", and those who show up to the show late and saw them last tour won't be missing much. The band gets the joy of pimping out "new" material while fans can hear it and get it done, then move on to the "good stuff" later on.
At intermission, there's a video titled "Fan Film & Montage", which I can assume is a mini-documentary of fans throughout the years and tours, leading into the second set, which opens with...
One Little Victory
Animate
Roll the Bones
Distant Early Warning
Subdivisions
Here we have a SLEW of album openers and "Roll The Bones". These are ALL typical "singles" choices, with 90's and 80's stuff as well. I can bet we'll see one or two more songs from the 80's and 90's thrown in here as well, and hopefully one 90's/00's rarity! After these songs, we see something called "No Country For Old Hens", which could be a drum solo! It's an odd placement, but given the history of setlists, the middle of the 2nd set is where Neil used to put his solos, so I assume this to be it. Then we move onto...
Tom Sawyer - WAIT... in the MIDDLE of a set?! WHAT! It typically starts or ends a set, or is in the encore, but I don't ever recall seeing it in the middle of a set since the 80's, with the exception of the Counterparts Tour, where it was in a chunk of songs with the Hemispheres Prelude and Force Ten. Then again, we see it here paired with 3 other Moving Pictures songs, so it might be an album mini-medley, seeing as how "Red Barchetta and YYZ have been mashed together.
Red Barchetta/YYZ - This will be...interesting.
The Camera Eye - The whole thing....again?!? WOW! They must have really enjoyed playing it a few years ago to want to bring it back!
Now we see 6 songs from the late 70's period, from AFTK, HEMI and PEW, beginning with an unusual mash-up of PEW's opener and closer, ending with "Closer To The Heart". I cannot WAIT to hear how this one comes out! It's been a LONG time since they've done any 3-song medleys like this, so it'll be interesting to see how they change up the arrangements to make these work.
The Spirit of Radio/Natural Science/Closer to the Heart
Jacob's Ladder - HNNNNNGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH....that is all.
Prelude to Hemispheres/Cygnus X-1 - SURPRISE!!! The real question is, will "Cygnus X-1" just be the prologue (which they used as part of the encore on the Vapor Trails tour), or will it be the 2nd half of the song (which has some CRAZY high vocals, so I doubt it...)??? This will be an intense way to end the main 2nd set!!!
"Ask Al" seems to be the pre-encore video, which sounds like it'll feature Lifeson doing some whacky antics once more.
2112 - Typical encore choice, although considering last tour's encore featured this AND "Tom Sawyer", I wonder if it'll be a longer version of the song (with "Discovery" and/or "Soliloquy" thrown in)?!? As it was, the last version of 2112 played clocked in at around 8.5-9 minutes, but their encores usually last anywhere between 14-20 minutes, so we'll have to wait and see...
Then the show closes with two videos titled "Mel's Rockpile" and "Exit... Stage Left".
Interesting to note that no songs prior to 2112 are featured (so far), and it seems like the whole setlist is in semi-reverse chronological order, starting with recent stuff (CA, S&A, and some 90's/80's), then moving into the early 80's/late 70's stuff near the end of the show, closing with some version of "2112". And as it stands, it seems like there's about 2 hours worth of songs listed here, so I expect at least 4-8 more songs thrown in, with a few in the first set and a couple in the 2nd set, and perhaps one in the encore.
I guess all our questions will be answered this weekend! Cannot wait to read the reviews and see the YouTube videos! :tup
-Marc.
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Personally, I love OLV. Sure, the band have better tunes in their repotoire, but it is what it is, and I can't see why so many people are down on it.
Anyway, what I came in here to say - COME TO EUROPE, GUYS!
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I'd love to see both One little victory and Jacob's Ladder. Fingers crossed for a European tour and a relatively close location.
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Fingers crossed for a European tour and a relatively close location.
This.
Although the list in the tourbook isn't complete and the songs probably won't be played in that exact order, it looks very likely that they'll go for a (mostly) reversed chronological order. Alex said they're rehearsing 35 songs and will rotate them, so there's still room for some surprises (even if not all of the 35 get played during the tour).
I'm happy to see Animate is featured, but like Kev I hope they won't slow it down and cut the choruses in half a la R30. I also find it really cool that they're finally bringing back Jacob's Ladder! :tup
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Alex said they're rehearsing 35 songs and will rotate them, so there's still room for some surprises (even if not all of the 35 get played during the tour).
Care to share the link of where he said they've rehearsed 35 songs? Seems like an awful lot in comparison to how many songs are featured in the show (including songs swapped out from night to night).
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Alex said they're rehearsing 35 songs and will rotate them, so there's still room for some surprises (even if not all of the 35 get played during the tour).
Care to share the link of where he said they've rehearsed 35 songs? Seems like an awful lot in comparison to how many songs are featured in the show (including songs swapped out from night to night).
https://www.rushisaband.com/blog/2015/04/08/4303/Rush-R40-Live-2015-tour-rumor-updates-rehearsals-underway-in-Los-Angeles
According to one fan who was at Fretted Americana on Monday and chatted briefly with Alex, the band apparently has prepped about 35 songs for the tour, although they won't be playing them all each night. They'll instead be alternating out as many as 6 or 7 per night for a solid 3-hour set.
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So 35 total with 6-7 swapped out each night leaves 28 or so songs each night, maybe more. Counting the known setlist we get 22 songs, so there's at least 6 songs each night without video, which seems average. If 6 songs don't have video, then they're easily replaced with 6 more songs, which gives us a total of 34. Sounds about right to me.
-Marc.
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I know Geddy can't sing a lot of the really old stuff anymore, but I think it's high time they throw a bone to us all and do a medley, ala R30, of stuff from the 70s. Hell, do a R40 instrumental medley of stuff from just Fly by Night and Caress of Steel, the two albums that are 40 years old this year. That would be a true R40 Overture. You can take stuff from Anthem, By-Tor, Fly by Night, In the End, Bastille Day, Lakeside Park and even one of the two longer tracks from CoS into a bad ass 10-minute medley. Hell, they could play the chorus of Fly by Night instrumentally and you'd probably have most crowds loudly singing the chorus! :metal
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
That's my #2 CoS song. Don't get the hate. One of the greatest riffs of the first 4 albums. I would LOVE to hear a nod to that song.
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Compared to other music in that era it's weak. This coming from a Rush nut.
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I love CA, but having seen the CA tour i wish there was one or two less songs in the set off of that album, just because it would allow them more time to bring out deep cuts. Jacob's Ladder is cool, but it doesn't matter to me if they do it or not, i wouldn't call it a favorite. some of the middle era stuff i could do with out but will still enjoy, and with the state of Geddy's voice it makes sense they can't do as much of the older material, and the middle era stuff sounded great on the CA tour because he didn't stretch himself too much. Honestly for me the best set they could do would be essentially the time machine setlist, but cut out the non-hit moving pictures songs for other hits or deep cuts.
super stoked for this tour no matter what they play tho :metal
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
That's my #2 CoS song. Don't get the hate. One of the greatest riffs of the first 4 albums. I would LOVE to hear a nod to that song.
Eh, it's basically a slight tweak of the In the Mood riff, and considering that used to be a live standard, and easy as hell to play and sing, that stands a much greater chance of being played.
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
That's my #2 CoS song. Don't get the hate. One of the greatest riffs of the first 4 albums. I would LOVE to hear a nod to that song.
Eh, it's basically a slight tweak of the In the Mood riff, and considering that used to be a live standard, and easy as hell to play and sing, that stands a much greater chance of being played.
What's weird is that I have been listening to both of those albums since 1982 (actually bought them at the same time out of a bargin bin...listened to them constantly) and never even noticed that until it was pointed out to me only about a year ago. :rollin
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I'm happy with the set so far, but I'm in it for the comedy. I didn't think it will get better than the last go-round, but it looks like it could happen.
Looks like I need to plan for Philly and MSG too.
Gonna have a hard time topping Enchant from 12 feet away, but I remain confident.
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I am going to the Atlanta show the day after memorial day. Must not look at the setlist!!! It will be tough.
I have to endure a morning trip to Ikea with the wife before the show. Everyone tells me the food is good and they have plenty of seats.
Enjoy the show everyone.
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
That's my #2 CoS song. Don't get the hate. One of the greatest riffs of the first 4 albums. I would LOVE to hear a nod to that song.
Eh, it's basically a slight tweak of the In the Mood riff, and considering that used to be a live standard, and easy as hell to play and sing, that stands a much greater chance of being played.
What's weird is that I have been listening to both of those albums since 1982 (actually bought them at the same time out of a bargin bin...listened to them constantly) and never even noticed that until it was pointed out to me only about a year ago. :rollin
Really? I noticed that probably within the first year I had both albums (in the mid-80s). But I'm glad to see someone else post about it cuz it always bugged me but I never thought to post about it.
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I personally love basically all of this setlist
we'll just have to wait for friday night to see what we're really up against here
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The Camera Eye alone makes this setlist awesome - it's a Top 3 Rush song for me.
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Meh, been there, done that. I'd gladly trade that in for 2 shorter songs that they haven't played as recently.
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If Emotion Detector (the last Power Windows song they haven't played live) is played (it won't be) I will probably explode.
that song was my favorite song in the entire world for a while, those synths are just beautiful
But they don't like the song for some reason, it "didn't sit right" with them or something.
so meh whatever, it won't happen and it will be one of those songs like available light that never gets played
please rush I beg of you, try it out
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I love CA, but having seen the CA tour i wish there was one or two less songs in the set off of that album, just because it would allow them more time to bring out deep cuts.
You never know - The Anarchist and The Wreckers might be an either/or, rotated each night.
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I can't wait to hear the medley with "I Think I'm Going Bald".
O.K. Maybe not. :lol
That's my #2 CoS song. Don't get the hate. One of the greatest riffs of the first 4 albums. I would LOVE to hear a nod to that song.
Eh, it's basically a slight tweak of the In the Mood riff, and considering that used to be a live standard, and easy as hell to play and sing, that stands a much greater chance of being played.
What's weird is that I have been listening to both of those albums since 1982 (actually bought them at the same time out of a bargin bin...listened to them constantly) and never even noticed that until it was pointed out to me only about a year ago. :rollin
I got both albums last year and noticed the similarity pretty quickly. :D
I'm curious to see how Geddy will be able to pull off the vocals in Hemispheres Prelude (if they play the vocal portion), because in the clips I've heard and seen from the Counterparts tour his singing sounded pretty painful, and it's been over 20 years since then and his range hasn't gotten any higher.
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They're going progressively backwards in time! I love it!
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They're going progressively backwards in time! I love it!
It's cool, but it sucks that there's been some albums that have been skipped over completely already. It's understandable for Power Windows, which was well represented last tour, but not sure about the other omissions...I hope that some songs from these missing albums will appear at other shows, and not just the usual (lead single) tracks.
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They're going progressively backwards in time! I love it!
It's cool, but it sucks that there's been some albums that have been skipped over completely already. It's understandable for Power Windows, which was well represented last tour, but not sure about the other omissions...I hope that some songs from these missing albums will appear at other shows, and not just the usual (lead single) tracks.
Well I was hoping for something from Test For Echo or Presto, but I doubt that will happen now. Maybe the B set will have B-sides?
But I'm not looking at this tour as a complete work, but more as an addition to the rest of the tour sets. And as long as I'm not hearing Limelight or Fly By Night/In The Mood, I'm counting my blessings. So no "complaints" from me so far but it's still early. Have to say I'm really glad the comedy is off the charts this time too.
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But I'm not looking at this tour as a complete work, but more as an addition to the rest of the tour sets.
Perhaps, but even when the stuff that they've selected to represent specific albums has already been well-represented on live albums, including those within the last 13 years, it's hard not to be frustrated that they're not breaking out a few more unusual choices so that they also have a live representation (Vapor Trail vs. OLV/Cut to the Chase vs. Animate/Kid Gloves vs. DEW/The Weapon vs. Subdivisions). But as I posted earlier, I'll reserve judgment for the future after they've played at least 2 or 3 more shows (and likely, everything they've rehearsed)...but it ain't looking good so far for the first set. I'm sure the second set will be more fun/exciting, but I'm just as interested in the later catalog as I am the early stuff.
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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Is Setlist.fm teasing me right now?? Is this a sick joke???
:panicattack:
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I don't know! I don't know! Is the latest addition to the set from setlist.fm true?
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OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! The BIGGEST BOMB EVER JUST DROPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I WILL DINE ON HONEYDEW!
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I WILL DINE ON HONEYDEW!
BIGGER!!! (not necessarily in a "superior song" way...but in a completely unexpected way)
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Spoiler below...
So far, the encore is Lakeside Park, Anthem and What You're Doing..
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We don't need spoiler warnings or tiny text in this thread. This thread exists for the sole purpose of spoilers. :p
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Are you sure??? because the biggest bomb yet just dropped. Freakin.....GARDEN....ROAD......
EDIT: Ok....seriously....I think someone's messing with me. Because they just added a 2nd encore with about 5 more songs and I don't see how it could be true...
You may have to take this last one with a grain of salt.
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How long is this show?
There's an encore two now? I got to think setlist.fm is messing with us now.
Edit: Yep, they were.
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Ok....now it's been updated with the 2nd encore removed and it says that Working Man had a "Garden Road Outro" that seems *a bit* more believable.
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I concur.
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Still though. Lakeside Park, Anthem and What You're Doing?? That much has been confirmed by Rush is a Band. This is AWESOME!!!
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I heard word from someone from a GNR forum that was at the show that it was Xanadu performed in its entirety.
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I was wondering about that. And I DO have visual confirmation on Instagram that the double-neck guitars returned for that song!! :hat
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LAKESIDE PARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was not expecting to ever see that one. I hope that isn't one that's getting rotated. I love that song
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LAKESIDE PARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was not expecting to ever see that one. I hope that isn't one that's getting rotated. I love that song
Since they are ending the regular set with 2112, they seem to be at least attempting to encore with a song each from the first 3 albums. If they rotate it out, it would most likely be with Bastille Day, and Anthem may get rotated for Fly By Night....but ya never know. What You're Doing was the big one for me. My favorite song from the first album.
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Full setlist -
Set 1
Intro video - The World is ... The World is
Clockwork Angels
The Anarchist
Headlong Flight (with mini drum solo)
Far Cry
The Main Monkey Business
One Little Victory
Animate
Roll the Bones
Distant Early Warning
Subdivisions
Intermission
Set 2
Intro video - No Country for Old Hens
Tom Sawyer
Red Barchetta
The Spirit of Radio
Jacob's Ladder
Cygnus X-1 Book Two: Hemispheres - Prelude
Cygnus X-1 Book One - The Voyage: Part 1
drum solo
Cygnus X-1 Book One - The Voyage: Part 3
Closer to the Heart
Xanadu
2112 Overture/Temples of Syrinx/Presentation/Grand Finale
Encore
Intro Video: Mel's Rockpile starring Eugene Levy
Lakeside Park
Anthem
What You're Doing
Working Man (Garden Road riff at the end)
Outro Video: Exit Stage Left
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The double necked guitars...
https://instagram.com/p/2cgMoaJMtQ/
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Well, I stand by my criticism of the first set, but WOW regarding that second set! Definitely didn't expect them to do some of the stuff that they did - especially in the encore! Hopefully when I see them, we'll get the same songs for the encore. And very cool to see what they did for the stage - not only is Neil's kit retro, but with the double necks and apparently even all the stage decorations go retro so that by the encore, it looks like they're playing a high school gig! And I'm happy to see some of the perennial favorites missing from the set, such as YYZ and Limelight, which are great songs but sooooo overplayed.
I'm also glad to see in the comments that apparently for Roll the Bones, Peter Dinklage, Paul Rudd, Jason Segel, Tom Morello and The Trailer Park Boys sang the rap on the big screen, which is a welcome change if that song has to be in the set.
Yup - I'm officially excited to see this show and to keep tabs on what they'll be playing at other shows! :biggrin:
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FWIW, I think YYZ will be getting swapped in for Red Barchetta on alternating nights. But yeah, I generally agree.
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I see from that tour pamphlet thing that the Camera Eye is going to get played. Any idea on which songs they will swap it with?
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I see from that tour pamphlet thing that the Camera Eye is going to get played. Any idea on which songs they will swap it with?
No clue, but hopefully Red Barchetta, YYZ and/or The Spirit of Radio. I hope Jacob's Ladder stays in the set for all shows considering how long ago it was last played.
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Dat second set and encore! :omg: I'm shocked they played Lakeside Park (or anything from COS, for that matter), because I've heard Geddy dislikes that song. I was only expecting Overture/Temples/Grand Finale when I saw 2112 in the tour book list, but it's really cool that they threw in Presentation as well. I was kind of expecting Xanadu and I'm glad my prediction was correct! :metal I think that first set could be a little less safe, but concentrating on the hits is understandable given that this is an anniversary tour. It would've been cool if they'd played something from every album, but on the other hand this is a great way to make up for the lack of 70s stuff on the last tour.
My predictions for the second night:
The Wreckers instead of The Anarchist
Big Money instead of DEW
YYZ or The Camera Eye instead of Red Barchetta (maybe there'll be a C setlist?)
Natural Science instead of Jacob's Ladder (I know they haven't played JL in 35 years, but I can't think of a better spot for NS, and their lengths are similar)
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Xanadu!
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I see from that tour pamphlet thing that the Camera Eye is going to get played. Any idea on which songs they will swap it with?
Hopefully Red Barchetta. The set list is really sick, I'm liking it. :metal
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All I can say is that they'd better have a European leg. This would be my first time seeing Rush live (and, at this rate, my last) and the setlist looks rather good! Fingers crossed
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F*ck F*ck F*ck F*ck F*ckity F*uck! There is NO WAY this band can come up with that setlist and NOT play a European leg. Hell, if they don't, I will be personally tracking down Geddy, Alex and Neal and demanding every penny I've ever spent on this band back from them, with interest. And if they don't pay up, I'll put pigeon shit in their mailboxes.
COME TO EUROPE!
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That's quite the setlist :hefdaddy
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F*ck F*ck F*ck F*ck F*ckity F*uck! There is NO WAY this band can come up with that setlist and NOT play a European leg. Hell, if they don't, I will be personally tracking down Geddy, Alex and Neal and demanding every penny I've ever spent on this band back from them, with interest. And if they don't pay up, I'll put pigeon shit in their mailboxes.
COME TO EUROPE!
:rollin
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Wow. Just wow. I saw the set list last night, but was out and could not comment on here then. Plus, my brains were all over the walls. :lol :lol
Jacob's Ladder...FINALLY!
All of Xanadu...YES!!!!!!
That encore...MY GOD. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
They need to rotate NOTHING*. That set list is perfect just the way it is.
*Because I doubt One Little Victory will get rotated, and that is the one song I'd like to chuck.
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Rushgasm.
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Rushgasm.
I have these on a twice-daily basis
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Xanadu
Cygnus
Fuck
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Lost in the chatter of the classics is the fact that The Main Monkey Business is back. I am happy about that. They obviously needed an instrumental for the middle of the first set to give Geddy's voice a break there for a bit, and that is an instrumental that is worthy. I could have seen them slipping OLV up a spot and then playing Limbo instead, which would have given TFE some representation for once, but since TMMB is the better tune, I think it's better this way.
What You're Doing was my favorite song from the debut when I first got into Rush, and still might be, so I am excited about that one.
Lakeside Park stunned me. STUNNED. I thought Geddy disliked that song. If I had been a betting man, and someone had told me they would be playing all of one CoS song, I would have bet my life savings on Bastille Day. What a curveball.
Anthem is obviously a bad ass classic. I am glad we are getting Rush on the 4th show, since I think Geddy's voice may not hold up over the course of the tour singing that every night. :lol :lol
They had better not even think of rotating Jacob's Ladder. That needs to be played every night. Some fans are already speculating that Natural Science will rotate with it, since NS is mentioned in the tour book, but I am not convinced. I have to think the band is smart enough to know that you can't bring a song like that back and not give it to every crowd. Then again, after their odd decision to rotate Manhattan Project with Dreamline last tour, you never know...
XANADU. Thank God I will get to see this performed in full before I die/the band is done. :coolio
Scotty, regarding your set 1 swaps, while I'd love to see Cut to the Chase or Kid Gloves, I think those cuts are too deep, and most crowds would stand there wondering "What song is this?" in both cases. Given that the first set is all "newer" material, you don't want to get the crowd too disengaged early on, so going with the more reliable, predictable "hits" like Roll the Bones and Animate is not only safer, but smarter. We've gotten a crap load of deep cuts from the post-1981 records over the last 13 years; now it is time to get deep cuts from the 70s. :metal
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So he actually *SANG* Hemispheres...Cygnus...Lakeside Park...Anthem??? All of them?
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From what I am reading, the Cygnus parts that were played did not have any vocals. It sounds like they played the beginning, ala the same section from the VT tour, and then the ending, which I am guessing the rocking part. They probably just left out the vocals at the end, which is doable since the ROCK there is more than enough. :metal
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For those who are interested, the first show went up on dimeadozen last night! Talk about fast!
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Oh, so the entire Cygnus medley is actually an instrumental? That's pretty cool, honestly. :tup
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I would imagine that Cygnus X-1 might be the most challenging song in the Rush catalogue to sing. No way can I imagine a 61-year old Geddy screaming...
Spinning, whirling
Still descending
Like a spiral sea
Unending...
Sound and fury
Drown my heart
Every nerve
Is torn apart...
..and doing it justice. So I am okay with them playing that part as just an instrumental.
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Holy crap, you guys. I'm now kicking myself for not saving up to get tickets for this tour. Ugh...
Anyways, I hope we get a decent live album from this with ALL of the A/B'd songs on the tour! No sign of "Natural Science", "YYZ" or "The Camera Eye", which I hope isn't swapped out for "Xanadu" being that both are 10-ish minutes long. That would be a shame since the full "Xanadu" hasn't been played since like 1982.
Nice to see TMMB return, as I enjoy that instrumental very much, as well as the return of "Animate", although I wonder if it's the edited version they did a few tours ago, or the original arrangement?
Also, that second set and encore is MIND-BLOWING and I'm glad they added "Presentation" to "2112" this time! I wonder if it's similar to previous versions where Alex does a bit of the end of "Discovery" before going into "Presentation" or if they just dive right into it after Temples?
Also, I'm betting that "The Wreckers" will alternate with "The Anarchist", and "The Big Money" with either DEW or RTB.
-Marc.
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Given how the new video for the rap for Roll the Bones, I don't see that being rotated. I think Big Money rotates with DEW, if at all.
The Wreckers/Anarchist swap makes sense, although I'd rather get the latter, and ours if the 4th show, so we will see.
Note: Clockwork Angels now joins Limelight as the only two Rush songs to ever be the opening song at a Rush show despite not being Track 1 from its studio album.
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Also, to show how lucky we Rush fans have been, in the 21st century, Rush has played 84 of their 164 songs from the studio albums - 78 of them from start to finish at some point, with 6 in some type of abbreviated form (Finding My Way, By-Tor, Bastille, Day, 2112, Cygnus X-1 and Hemispheres). Pretty impressive.
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Also, to show how lucky we Rush fans have been, in the 21st century, Rush has played 84 of their 164 songs from the studio albums - 78 of them from start to finish at some point, with 6 in some type of abbreviated form (Finding My Way, By-Tor, Bastille, Day, 2112, Cygnus X-1 and Hemispheres). Pretty impressive.
Nice stats! That is very nice to see, and the rarities on this tour have me very excited. I cannot wait to see what live album package they put together for this tour!
-Marc.
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I still have yet to see Lakeside Park...but someone just posted the last solo from Anthem going into What You're Doing.
Geddy sounds surprisingly AWESOME!! (but it is only the first night...he may get tired down the line)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQtUFNYHrWo
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Nice!
Looks like they did omit the final verse of Anthem, the one following the guitar solo, but I won't quibble about that. I still can't believe they are playing Lakeside Park, Anthem AND What You're Doing. I think most of us would have been thrilled had they played just ONE of those!
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I'm seeing them tomorrow. I'm a pretty casual Rush fan. In fact, I never really got into them until 2 years ago and I splurged and bought all their albums at once pretty much. Since then, I've listened to them mainly in moderation so I am still not all that familiar with their catalog. My friends I am going to see them with are as diehard as you can get. I think my one friend has seen them once per tour since Roll the Bones came out. He also literally reminded me 4 times that he is not checking out the setlist in advance, in other words, don't fucking spoil it for him.
Anyway, setlist seems pretty kickass to me but i have to admit I don't get a lot of what people are freaking out about. I guess those are some deep cuts they never play or people thought they would never play. I like that they are giving a lot of time to the newer material. Some of the other bands I am a diehard of like to ignore their newer material and that always pisses me off so even though I am only moderately familiar with a lot of it, I'm sure there are fans of Rush as I am of other bands and will really appreciate it.
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Oh, and funny story:
In the last 10 years, every single Rush album has now been represented live...except for Test for Echo.
Take that, jammindude. :biggrin:
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Oh, and funny story:
In the last 10 years, every single Rush album has now been represented live...except for Test for Echo.
Take that, jammindude. :biggrin:
They're saving it for the 20th Anniversary of the album. A one off show where they play the entire classic album in its entirety!! :hat
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I would tell you to lay off the sauce, but it is Saturday night... :lol :lol
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Listening to the recorded bootleg, the people who said that Lakeside Park and Anthem were played in full were wrong. Lakeside Park and Anthem are kind of medley form, as they played the first 2 minutes or so of Lakeside Park and then go right into Anthem after the 2nd chorus of LP, and again, the last verse of Anthem was omitted, so yeah, not full songs like originally stated, but no matter; it's still freaking awesome that they played both of them!
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Listening to the recorded bootleg, the people who said that Lakeside Park and Anthem were played in full were wrong. Lakeside Park and Anthem are kind of medley form, as they played the first 2 minutes or so of Lakeside Park and then go right into Anthem after the 2nd chorus of LP, and again, the last verse of Anthem was omitted, so yeah, not full songs like originally stated, but no matter; it's still freaking awesome that they played both of them!
So they cut it right at the part where it would go into the bridge? Or before the guitar solo?
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Where it would go into the bridge. The Lakeside Park mp3 from the boot is 2:24. Anthem is 3:09 (although really about 2:50, since the last 19 seconds is the break after the song and Geddy introducing What You're Doing). Geddy's vocals are pretty rough on both, but I don't care. I am just so happy they are playing them, and it will be glorious when I see them play them in five days. :metal
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wow what a setlist
I'm already looking forward to the cd release of this tour, whenever that will be
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They are supposedly filming both Toronto shows.
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They are supposedly filming both Toronto shows.
great news!
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HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT FUCKING SETLIST YOU GUYS BETTER COME TO EUROPE OR TURKEY CAUSE HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT SETLIST IS JUST AMAZING.
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HOLY SHIT LOOK AT THAT FUCKING SETLIST YOU GUYS BETTER COME TO EUROPE OR TURKEY CAUSE HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT SETLIST IS JUST AMAZING.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDeiMD9a7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKDeiMD9a7w)
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But I'm not looking at this tour as a complete work, but more as an addition to the rest of the tour sets.
Perhaps, but even when the stuff that they've selected to represent specific albums has already been well-represented on live albums, including those within the last 13 years, it's hard not to be frustrated that they're not breaking out a few more unusual choices so that they also have a live representation (Vapor Trail vs. OLV/Cut to the Chase vs. Animate/Kid Gloves vs. DEW/The Weapon vs. Subdivisions). But as I posted earlier, I'll reserve judgment for the future after they've played at least 2 or 3 more shows (and likely, everything they've rehearsed)...but it ain't looking good so far for the first set. I'm sure the second set will be more fun/exciting, but I'm just as interested in the later catalog as I am the early stuff.
I'm as interested in everything equally as well (Though I'd want to hear something they haven't done before or in a long time probably a little more.) I realize this is just me, but I'd pretty much rather hear anything other than a handful of songs that really don't do a hell of a lot for me. (Limelight, Stick It Out, Fly By Night, In The Mood, Working Man (Not dodging that bullet) Closer To The Heart (if there's no sick jam at the end)
As much as I like the 70's stuff, I'd rather not hear it at all if it's not going to come off well. It's just as easy to pull out a choice bootleg and enjoy that. 2112 ALWAYS comes off well, as does Xanadu and La Villa Strangiato. The Trees too. But beyond those, I can't think of a lot from that period that would. (By-Tor and Working Man don't much work for me, but it seems to work for them) I think Lakeside Park would work, so that will be a nice trip to experience.
I suppose at this point, I consider this whole endeavor as a celebration so there isn't a lot I'm going to find fault with (coming from someone who usually can find some fault with just about anything!) Maybe knowing that this is likely it has changed my point of view somewhat.
I still don't know if the last tour will be topped, but this one so far has come closer than I ever thought it would. I thought this would be more of an R30 thing (I'm so glad that it isn't.)
I know some of them went into this reluctantly, but they've turned on the burners from the word "Go." I shouldn't have doubted that despite that they are all in their 60s.
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Where it would go into the bridge. The Lakeside Park mp3 from the boot is 2:24. Anthem is 3:09 (although really about 2:50, since the last 19 seconds is the break after the song and Geddy introducing What You're Doing). Geddy's vocals are pretty rough on both, but I don't care. I am just so happy they are playing them, and it will be glorious when I see them play them in five days. :metal
That's going to be one painful encore for me and it's not because I don't like the songs.
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Now someone is saying from a reliable source, one of the lighting guys, that there are six different set lists for this tour, with 37 songs in total. The 2nd show tonight should tell us a lot.
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Test For Echo from start to finish. :rollin
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Heh, I think that would have a lot of fans running for the exits. :lol Slime and Lotion remains their most embarrassing moment ever, thanks to that butt ugly chorus.
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Obvious troll is obvious... :hat
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Ahhh. To hear Driven live.
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I just got my sweaty hands on 2 last minute tickets to the Chicago show!! :metal :biggrin:
LOVE the setlist too.....the 2nd half is absolutely insane!! Cygnus X-1 and Xanadu are sure to be highlights, hopefully those are permanent all tour. Encore is interesting too.
Never thought Clockwork Angels would be an opener, can't wait to see that.
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Now someone is saying from a reliable source, one of the lighting guys, that there are six different set lists for this tour, with 37 songs in total. The 2nd show tonight should tell us a lot.
Interesting. Well the first show in Tulsa had 23 songs, and the video credits in the tour book also mention 5 other songs not played in Tulsa:
The Wreckers
The Big Money
YYZ
The Camera Eye
Natural Science
"The Wreckers" will likely be swapped with "The Anarchist", "The Big Money" with either "Distant Early Warning" or "Subdivisions" (likely the former than the latter), "YYZ" with "Red Barchetta", but the bigger questions are - what will they swap "The Camera" and "Natural Science" with? I think it stands to reason that "Natural Science" might get swapped with "Jacob's Ladder", which is likely to piss off a lot of Rush fans on alternate nights of the tour, unless they perform the song in its ORIGINAL arrangement, which they haven't done in the early 80's as every performance from the 90's onward has been of a slightly different arrangement that cuts out the guitar solo in the last third of the song. If they keep to the "songs from each of the first 8 albums played in reverse chronological order" concept, they'd have to take out 10 minutes of Moving Pictures material to play "The Camera Eye", which means they'd have to swap it with BOTH "Tom Sawyer" AND "Red Barchetta", which seems unlikely, and I doubt they'd play a show that DIDN'T have "Tom Sawyer" in it, but we'll see after tonight (and maybe a couple more nights).
Either way, that's only 28 songs, and if they have 35-37 songs lined up for this tour, there's 7-9 more songs they have hidden up their sleeves.
Albums not represented by these 28 songs include: Test For Echo, Presto, and Hold Your Fire. I wouldn't mind seeing "Limbo" return in place of "The Main Monkey Business" for a 1st set instrumental, and ANYTHING from Presto would be great. As for Hold Your Fire, they'd likely pull out "Force Ten" or "Time Stand Still" (which works ironically for the tour set concept).
I guess by the end of the 4th or 5th show of the tour we'll know just what they have planned, but up to SIX different set lists?! That's insane and BRAV(AD)O to the boys for pulling out all the stops for this tour!
Now I REALLY hope that the Toronto shows that are being filmed/recorded get ALL of MOST of these supposed 37 songs, and that we get good performances/recordings of ALL of them on the eventual release. Those 2nd set songs are just too good NOT to document on this tour for posterity!
-Marc.
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The entire show is now up on You Tube... Lakeside Park is at 2:18:45
Geddy sounds pretty strained...but it is really cool to hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewuD3eplXVw
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Damn, for the second concert the first two songs are The Anarchist and The Wreckers :-\
Rumors that OLV is replaced by How It Is and Distant Early Warning is replaced by Between the Wheels
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Tonight so far:
The Anarchist
The Wreckers
Headlong Flight
Far Cry
The Main Monkey Business
How It Is
I have to admit, I did not see How It Is coming. :eek :eek
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I love One Little Victory, but I'm thrilled with any other song (not named Secret Tough) from Vapor Trails being played instead. That's a really cool choice. Surprised CA got the axe and not Anarchist.
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Agreed, all-around.
I love The Anarchist like crazy, but I will be a little sad if we do not get Clockwork Angels on Thursday. That's my favorite Rush song of the last 20 years.
Definitely cool to see something new from VT, although I would have preferred Vapor Trail or Freeze, but How It Is has always been a fun little song.
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I love The Anarchist like crazy, but I will be a little sad if we do not get Clockwork Angels on Thursday. That's my favorite Rush song of the last 20 years.
Same here, I hope Chicago gets CA as the opener. Much better opening song
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Definitely cool to see something new from VT, although I would have preferred Vapor Trail or Freeze, but How It Is has always been a fun little song.
Complete agreement here, especially on Vapor Trails.
Next big surprise, DEW got dropped, but not for Big Money... instead for the much better Between the Wheels, which I'm thrilled about. Wish they would have pulled out Afterimage or Enemy Within, but I'll take it.
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Roll The Bones needs to go. Maybe swap it for Show Don't Tell(?)
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The Camera Eyes is getting played right now in the slot Red Barchetta had on Friday.
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Hmmm, How It Is. All right, that's a fine alternative for the token Vapor Trails song. I would have loved it if they did Ceiling Unlimited, Freeze, Earthshine, or Out Of the Cradle but that's just wishful and naive thinking on my part.
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CAMERA EYE REPLACES RED BARCHETTA
edit: oops I can't read two posts above me apparently
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Wow, sat A got a slight win on the first swap, but since then set B has been on a big roll.
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And this should be obvious as Kev just recently posted about it, but now The Anarchist is the THIRD non-album starting track to open up a Rush concert, joining Clockwork Angels and Limelight.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first Rush tour in recent times that doesn't open with a hit?
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Wow!! The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu in a single night!!!
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Wow!! The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu in a single night!!!
The first time all three have ever been played in one night. Wrap your mind around that!
-Marc.
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Wow!! The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu in a single night!!!
The first time all three have ever been played in one night. Wrap your mind around that!
-Marc.
They were all on ESL...but I've never seen the source material. ESL didn't all come from the MP tour?
EDIT: I know CE was not on ESL...but I also just assume it was played on the MP tour...that's what everyone has said. But you seem to be implying that one of the other two weren't. That's what I meant.
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Wow!! The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu in a single night!!!
The first time all three have ever been played in one night. Wrap your mind around that!
-Marc.
They were all on ESL...but I've never seen the source material. ESL didn't all come from the MP tour?
EDIT: I know CE was not on ESL...but I also just assume it was played on the MP tour...that's what everyone has said. But you seem to be implying that one of the other two weren't. That's what I meant.
IIRC, "Jacob's Ladder" was ONLY played on the PEW Tour and the MP Warm-Up Tour, so not since then. On the MP-Tour proper, TCE was played, then for a couple more tours after (ESL Tour, Signals Warm-Up Tour, and the Signals Tour).
So yes, this is the first time JL, TCE and Xanadu have all been played in one night. And as for the ESL live album, tracks are MOSTLY from the MP Tour, but several were taken from the PEW Tour (off the top of my head, at least Jacob's Ladder and A Passage To Bangkok).
Also, another mind-blowing revelation I had today was that between Xanadu, CTTH, and most of Cygnus X-1, they're playing about half of the AFTK album each night (about 20-22 minutes). They haven't done that since the PEW Tour.
Nice to see BTW swapped out with DEW, as well as TCE replacing RB and nothing else! "How It Is" is a great surprise, too, and with these two songs, our supposed song count is up to 30 different songs (counting both nights and the 5 not-yet-played listed in the tour book). Seems like we may have up to 6 different set lists if they still have 5-7 more songs that they haven't revealed!
-Marc.
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The other possibility is that they printed up the tourbook in advance of finalizing the set, and some of those songs might not actually be played.
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Amazing setlist. In one night, all of The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder, and Xanadu, along with the prelude of Hemispheres and a significant chunk of Cygnus X-1? What is this band?
I really hope all of those songs are in place for the Chicago show; it'll be a bummer if JL is swapped out for Natural Science, as much as I do love the latter.
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Not sure if anyone else brought this up, but despite playing the whole intro and both verses to Xanadu, they still cut out ONE bit - the part just before the final chord where Neil plays a melody on bells with Geddy doubling on synth. I wonder why they cut this serene and beautiful part out after going through the trouble of playing nearly everything else in the song? Hmmm...
-Marc.
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This setlist is all win!!
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Which version of TCE did they play? Time Machine or Signals tour?
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I've never found How It Is too memorable or great, but it's cool that they are premiering some unplayed stuff. Between the Wheels and The Camera Eye are awesome, though, and I'm shocked that the opening song won't be the same throughout the tour. The fact that Big Money, YYZ and Natural Science still haven't been played makes me think the rumor about 6 different setlists might be true, or at least there'll be a lot of songs in rotation. Hopefully the remaining albums (T4E, Presto, HYF) will be represented at some point!
The entire show is now up on You Tube... Lakeside Park is at 2:18:45
Geddy sounds pretty strained...but it is really cool to hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewuD3eplXVw
Yeah, he sounds a bit shaky there, but that's understandable considering that he had sung for over 2 hours already. He pulled off Hemispheres surprisingly well, though. I'm also glad Animate is played in full and not slowed down - now I only wish I could see a video of the RTB rap!
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Dang, this one is even better. :metal
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I've never found How It Is too memorable or great, but it's cool that they are premiering some unplayed stuff. Between the Wheels and The Camera Eye are awesome, though, and I'm shocked that the opening song won't be the same throughout the tour. The fact that Big Money, YYZ and Natural Science still haven't been played makes me think the rumor about 6 different setlists might be true, or at least there'll be a lot of songs in rotation. Hopefully the remaining albums (T4E, Presto, HYF) will be represented at some point!
How It Is, is pretty much the worst song from VT. Ghost Rider, Secret Touch or Nocturne would be cool.
I would also love to hear them play: Red Tide from Presto, and Open Secrets from HYF.
Im still hoping that they come to Europe before they quit, but chances of that happening are pretty much nonexistent.
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Wow....I must be the black sheep, I don't really care for Jacobs Ladder much.
Now I'm more sad they skipped New Mexico these past two tours.
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How It Is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oVZXXnabD0
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I listened to bits of the Tulsa show (posted earlier in this thread) and is it me, or is "Hemispheres Prelude" down-tuned? The signature "Hemispheres Chord" sounds....wrong, and lower. I can totally understand the need to down-tune the song just so Geddy can at least ATTEMPT to sing it, especially considering the last time he sang the song was over 20 years ago.
-Marc.
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To my knowledge, yes, it was. Also, guys, I've found a youtube channel with nearly the whole show:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vO8AAD6N9jqn4eD5VRR-w (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9vO8AAD6N9jqn4eD5VRR-w)
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The appearance of How It Is last night actually got me listening to Vapor Trails today in the car. While not one of my favorites, I still like it. Definitely some really good, maybe even great, tunes on there. :hat
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While I like Between The Wheels more than Distant Early Warning, I prefer the first setlist so far - Clockwork Angels is my fav from that album and a way better opener, and Red Barchetta is a top 5 Rush tune for me (nothing against The Camera Eye). I don't care what song from Vapor Trails is played, as it's one of my least favorite albums from them.
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The appearance of How It Is last night actually got me listening to Vapor Trails today in the car. While not one of my favorites, I still like it. Definitely some really good, maybe even great, tunes on there. :hat
Took a loooooong time for anything to click on VT, but I really love at least half of it. Some definite suckage, but some really cool stuff as well.
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That is bad ass that they have neil's old school drum set with the double kick bass w/ starman logo. Awesome.
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I listened to bits of the Tulsa show (posted earlier in this thread) and is it me, or is "Hemispheres Prelude" down-tuned? The signature "Hemispheres Chord" sounds....wrong, and lower. I can totally understand the need to down-tune the song just so Geddy can at least ATTEMPT to sing it, especially considering the last time he sang the song was over 20 years ago.
-Marc.
Definitely down-tuned. A sensible choice given how Geddy sang the verse.
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I've never found How It Is too memorable or great, but it's cool that they are premiering some unplayed stuff. Between the Wheels and The Camera Eye are awesome, though, and I'm shocked that the opening song won't be the same throughout the tour. The fact that Big Money, YYZ and Natural Science still haven't been played makes me think the rumor about 6 different setlists might be true, or at least there'll be a lot of songs in rotation. Hopefully the remaining albums (T4E, Presto, HYF) will be represented at some point!
How It Is, is pretty much the worst song from VT. Ghost Rider, Secret Touch or Nocturne would be cool.
I would also love to hear them play: Red Tide from Presto, and Open Secrets from HYF.
Im still hoping that they come to Europe before they quit, but chances of that happening are pretty much nonexistent.
I've been listening to How It Is and it isn't that bad after all. It's just that Vapor Trails is such a samey and long album that few songs are memorable and stand out, which makes it one of my least favorite albums. There are good moments though, like the songs that have been played live, Peaceable Kingdom and Freeze.
From Presto I'd prefer to hear Chain Lightning or Available Light (Geddy could alter the melody at the end of the chorus), but Open Secrets is really good. Prime Mover would be my #1 choice from HYF - I can't believe a fantastic song like this never got any live play after 1988! Totem would also be a good pick from T4E.
My cousin is a huge Rush freak and he's sure they'll come to Europe next year, so I trust his instict and keep my fingers crossed. Hopefully they (Neil, in particular) enjoy this tour enough to continue it next year!
I listened to bits of the Tulsa show (posted earlier in this thread) and is it me, or is "Hemispheres Prelude" down-tuned? The signature "Hemispheres Chord" sounds....wrong, and lower. I can totally understand the need to down-tune the song just so Geddy can at least ATTEMPT to sing it, especially considering the last time he sang the song was over 20 years ago.
-Marc.
I like the way 2112 sounds in D tuning and in general have no problem at all with songs being played in lower keys, but I agree that Hemispheres sounds kind of wrong downtuned because the opening chord is so iconic. But yeah, I can't imagine Geddy's vocals sounding good if they played it in the original key now.
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I've already become used to the Hemispheres Prelude in this new key so whatever
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I'd prefer to hear Chain Lightning...
+1. That's one of my favourite all time Rushtunes.
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The other possibility is that they printed up the tourbook in advance of finalizing the set, and some of those songs might not actually be played.
According to some insider information from The Rush Forum, Natural Science and Big Money were cut from the set late in rehearsals, so I guess this means Jacob's Ladder is a staple for this tour. If the rumor about 6 setlists and 37 songs is true, then NS and TBM probably aren't among the songs being rotated after all.
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I would be okay with that.
Natural Science is a top 10 Rush song in my book, but I've seen it a few times in the last 20 years, and if it getting cut means Jacob's Ladder remains for every show, it's the right call.
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I would be okay with that.
Natural Science is a top 10 Rush song in my book, but I've seen it a few times in the last 20 years, and if it getting cut means Jacob's Ladder remains for every show, it's the right call.
Agreed, and we've had both songs on live albums in the last few years.
-Marc.
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They started :P
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Watch it live:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/VzPV7TE4NTQ0MDJ8MTEwNjYxNjlDQ_PvsbPO7EgBVg2rrrg4CjhbThcQpgKI2Odop0mFOg==
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While it wasn't played tonight, multiple sources given to rushisaband.com have cited that they heard the band soundcheck "Losing It" earlier today, which means it MIGHT take the 1st set closing position held by "Subdivisions".
This would mean another song premier along with "How It Is", and it would be the last song from Signals to be played live (as the other 7 were all played on the initial Signals/New World Tour).
-Marc.
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With all due respect, there is no chance that it replaces Subdivisions. If it were to be played, it would in all likelihood take the P/G spot (2nd to last song in Set 1). I hope it happens tomorrow night; I'd love to see it. :hat
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Watch it live:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/VzPV7TE4NTQ0MDJ8MTEwNjYxNjlDQ_PvsbPO7EgBVg2rrrg4CjhbThcQpgKI2Odop0mFOg==
Link is dead :(, im waiting for Losing It and Emotion Detector :pirate:
It is a pity that so few concerts they play in Europe.Fortunately, makes up DT.
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YYZ makes its debut tonight.
I *really* hope that they go RB, TCE, YYZ, TCE rather than rotate the three songs every third show.
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Natural Science now getting played, which means probably no Jacob's Ladder tonight. :facepalm:
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As much as I love Natural Science, if they play that Thursday night instead of Jacob's Ladder, that will be like a kick to the gut. :(
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As I said before, the ONLY way replacing "Natural Science" for "Jacob's Ladder" being OK is that they play the ORIGINAL arrangement and not the one they've played since the 90's. They've played the original arrangement of "Animate", so it's possible...guess we'll wait and see/hear how they do it tonight.
-Marc.
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Well, looks like "Natural Science" preceded "Jacob's Ladder", so tonight's show got (more than) HALF of Permanent Waves played to them tonight. I guess playing the shorter "YYZ" in place of the 6-minute "Red Barchetta" and 10(?)-minute "The Camera Eye" allowed them a little extra time.
What a lucky show tonight, getting TSOR, NS AND JL from PEW. I wonder if the rest of the set will remain the same...
EDIT - Well, looks like everything up to "Xanadu" has remained the same, meaning that tonight's show got HALF of Permanent Waves and HALF of A Farewell To Kings. Holy crap. If you had told me, any time in the past 10 years that Rush would play that much of those albums in ONE NIGHT, I'd kick you for making such a bold-faced like. I cannot believe they're pulling all these songs out for this tour, and anyone who is a fan of PEW and/or AFTK surely has had a great night tonight.
-Marc.
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Wow they played JL also :D, damn Yankees :]
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So it looks like they've made a special effort to play Jacob's Ladder every night, regardless of setlist changes. That's a load off my mind. I love Natural Science and The Camera Eye, so either would be great, but obviously they shouldn't be playing either over JL.
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It was an amazing show to witness. Probably my favorite one I have seen of theirs in recent years.
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Nat Sci AND Ladder in one show?! :omg: Looks like Big Money isn't out of question after all...
While it wasn't played tonight, multiple sources given to rushisaband.com have cited that they heard the band soundcheck "Losing It" earlier today, which means it MIGHT take the 1st set closing position held by "Subdivisions".
I doubt it'll replace Subdivisions, but it'd be awesome if they did play it. I'm kind of surprised they're doing it now instead of the last tour when they had strings.
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Nat Sci AND Ladder in one show?! :omg: Looks like Big Money isn't out of question after all...
While it wasn't played tonight, multiple sources given to rushisaband.com have cited that they heard the band soundcheck "Losing It" earlier today, which means it MIGHT take the 1st set closing position held by "Subdivisions".
I doubt it'll replace Subdivisions, but it'd be awesome if they did play it. I'm kind of surprised they're doing it now instead of the last tour when they had strings.
Seriously, a prime opportunity with those strings totally passed up. Well, if they're doing it, I hope it sounds awesome, and I'm sure the violin solo will be triggered by someone anyway. As for its placement in the set, well I guess I could see them subbing it into the DEW/BTW spot by taking out the GUP song and playing two SIG songs, but if they do that, where would "The Big Money" even fit in the set? It would be odd to see them swap FOUR songs in one slot (DEW/BTW/LI/TBM), but not implausible. With no Presto or HYF songs, they skip from RTB to GUP and I doubt they'll drop the "new" version of "Roll The Bones". I guess we'll find out, hopefully, by next week.
-Marc.
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These setlists just get better and better. The only bad thing about this tour is that they still haven't announced European dates...
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after seeing it last night, I couldn't help but wonder why they never played Jacob's Ladder long before this tour.
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Nat Sci AND Ladder in one show?! :omg: Looks like Big Money isn't out of question after all...
While it wasn't played tonight, multiple sources given to rushisaband.com have cited that they heard the band soundcheck "Losing It" earlier today, which means it MIGHT take the 1st set closing position held by "Subdivisions".
I doubt it'll replace Subdivisions, but it'd be awesome if they did play it. I'm kind of surprised they're doing it now instead of the last tour when they had strings.
Seriously, a prime opportunity with those strings totally passed up. Well, if they're doing it, I hope it sounds awesome, and I'm sure the violin solo will be triggered by someone anyway.
tbh you really need an electric violin to do an electric violin solo, you can't just use a normal violin as the sound is completely different. but yeah, I'm happy
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:eek EUROPE ALREADY FUCK
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It was also weird to see Ray Danniels walking around the arena last night. It was before the first set started and I saw a guy walking out of the tunnel (I was sitting above) and I saw the hair and immediately thought to myself: Hey! That's Ray Danniels. That's the guy Sammy Hagar absolutely hates. Then he went into the FOH booth and that confirmed it.
:lol I don't know, I just thought it was weird that I picked him out of the crowd. I mean, he was wearing a suit and that hair was identifiable. But I don't know how many bands where I could pick out the band manager.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfFi60e_Fgw
The entire St. Paul show has been uploaded, about only an hour ago. After listening to the third section of "Natural Science", I can confirm that it's the arrangement they've played in the last 15 years and NOT the original arrangement (as I would've hoped...ah well).
-Marc.
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:lol I don't know, I just thought it was weird that I picked him out of the crowd. I mean, he was wearing a suit and that hair was identifiable. But I don't know how many bands where I could pick out the band manager.
Hmmm. I could recognise Rod Smallwood at a Maiden gig, Frank Solomon at a DT gig and Lucy Jordache at a Marillion gig, and that's about it.
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I can't believe they're playing The Spirit of radio, Natural science and Jacob's ladder in a row, it's pretty much the best streak of songs ever played live in the history of rock concerts. :metal
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Rush tonight, baby!! :metal :metal
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Rush tonight, baby!! :metal :metal
Hope you get a good set list! I wonder if it will be a different set than the previous three? Either way, I'm sure you'll have a grand ole time! :tup
-Marc.
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Rush tonight, baby!! :metal :metal
:metal
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This will be my 12th time seeing them. And I am going tonight with the strong assumption that this will be my final time seeing them, so I am gonna enjoy it to the fullest.
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I keep my hopes up that They may do small, 10 city tour like The Who does but I'll look at it the same way you do.
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I hope you have fun tonight, Kev.
Hell, I may try to see them this tour as well.
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At the end of the Minnesota show, Geddy said something like: "We hope to see you all again very soon." I heard a few people talking about that walking out and they were all saying: Maybe this isn't the last time we'll see them.
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Band is sounding awesome on all the clips Ive watched.
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At the end of the Minnesota show, Geddy said something like: "We hope to see you all again very soon." I heard a few people talking about that walking out and they were all saying: Maybe this isn't the last time we'll see them.
Or it's just that he knows that some people will probably travel to the next city and show to see them. That's never surprising.
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I keep my hopes up that They may do small, 10 city tour like The Who does but I'll look at it the same way you do.
Not sure they can do that, given the large production they always have. It costs lots of money to put that on, especially having to pay all of their crew, and doing a small tour probably wouldn't be financially viable, and I can't see them scaling down to a smaller and more simple stage and lighting show.
Plus, I am reading some reports that Alex looks like he is struggling a bit at times. He has talked for a while about pain in his hands, and having to lug the big double neck again for 10+ minutes has to be a bitch (he mentioned years ago how difficult it was to play that on stage, and he is, what, 61 now?). Factor in them having to talk Neil into doing this tour, and I think this really is it. Even if they take a few years off, will they really want to tour again in their mid 60s? I think Geddy would, but Neil? No way.
Only a couple hours away... :metal
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I keep my hopes up that They may do small, 10 city tour like The Who does but I'll look at it the same way you do.
Not sure they can do that, given the large production they always have. It costs lots of money to put that on, especially having to pay all of their crew, and doing a small tour probably wouldn't be financially viable, and I can't see them scaling down to a smaller and more simple stage and lighting show.
Plus, I am reading some reports that Alex looks like he is struggling a bit at times. He has talked for a while about pain in his hands, and having to lug the big double neck again for 10+ minutes has to be a bitch (he mentioned years ago how difficult it was to play that on stage, and he is, what, 61 now?). Factor in them having to talk Neil into doing this tour, and I think this really is it. Even if they take a few years off, will they really want to tour again in their mid 60s? I think Geddy would, but Neil? No way.
Only a couple hours away... :metal
Good points made all around. I think if fans treat this as a Final Tour of sorts, we'll all be less disappointed when they don't tour again. I wish I had the time and money to go see them for a 2nd time in my lifetime, on this tour, but I've set aside a lot of funds for other things lately, so I really can't afford to see them. The best I'll do is save up for the eventual super-ultra mega-deluxe extra-special edition R40 Live release that will come out next year (presumably, with 3CDs, 2DVDs, 1-2BRs, in a huge book-style package, etc. etc.).
-Marc.
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Good points made all around. I think if fans treat this as a Final Tour of sorts, we'll all be less disappointed when they don't tour again. I wish I had the time and money to go see them for a 2nd time in my lifetime, on this tour, but I've set aside a lot of funds for other things lately, so I really can't afford to see them. The best I'll do is save up for the eventual super-ultra mega-deluxe extra-special edition R40 Live release that will come out next year (presumably, with 3CDs, 2DVDs, 1-2BRs, in a huge book-style package, etc. etc.).
-Marc.
I'm sorry to hear you are not going, knowing you're a big fan.
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Good points made all around. I think if fans treat this as a Final Tour of sorts, we'll all be less disappointed when they don't tour again. I wish I had the time and money to go see them for a 2nd time in my lifetime, on this tour, but I've set aside a lot of funds for other things lately, so I really can't afford to see them. The best I'll do is save up for the eventual super-ultra mega-deluxe extra-special edition R40 Live release that will come out next year (presumably, with 3CDs, 2DVDs, 1-2BRs, in a huge book-style package, etc. etc.).
-Marc.
I'm sorry to hear you are not going, knowing you're a big fan.
Well, in the 13-or-so years I've been a Rush fan, I've only ever afforded one chance to see them, and that was on the Clockwork Angels tour a couple of years ago, as a birthday present from my dad and step-mom. It was an amazing show, and I'd love to see them again, but I've accepted the fact that they might not tour after this year, but if they do, you can bet I will save up for any amount of money for a near-by show (Baltimore/DC area).
I'll be content with the eventual live release because at least then, I'll likely get a great live experience in a well done package.
-Marc.
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At the end of the Minnesota show, Geddy said something like: "We hope to see you all again very soon." I heard a few people talking about that walking out and they were all saying: Maybe this isn't the last time we'll see them.
In St. Louis tonight, Geddy changed "hope" to "maybe." Don't know if Neil had a discussion with him about that or not.
St. Louis appeared to have the best performance yet even though Alex was having some problems throughout the night. I think I'm warming to the encore. Didn't sound as painful for me this time.
Can't believe they are doing this approaching their mid-60's. I'm not a guitar geek by any means, but getting an eyeful of all the different guitar and basses is awesome. And watching them tear it up is even better.
I'm starting to think that the sets from this tour and the last one are the two best ever. Huge advantage of having nearly three hour sets.
What a way to go out. Alex wasn't kidding. I hope they can keep this up until late June when I get my crack at them.
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So instead of 6 sets, it's looking like we're getting 3 sets with Losing It on a few occasions.
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:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Rush rules, bottom line!!
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I thought they always said they'd only play Losing It if Ben Mink were available?
maybe per likely their last tour, that's not the case?
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Forget playing "Losing It" - you know what they should be playing? EUROPE!
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EUROPE!
:hefdaddy :tup
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Yeah I'd love to hear them play The Final Countdown.
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Forget playing "Losing It" - you know what they should be playing? EUROPE!
Now why on earth would you want them to play The Final Countdown or another Europe song? :biggrin:
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Rush would make any Europe song kick ass
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I wouldn't even know where to start to review last night's show, but it was pretty damn awesome. It was a tad loud, which would be my only complaint, but the band was on fire, and Geddy's voice sounded better than it did on the last tour. Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu were both just absurdly awesome.
However, after last night, I am pretty convinced now that this is it. It just had that feel to it, and the post-show video of them just had that "we are going out like this" vibe to it. Several times Neil was just smiling back there, and while some would say, "Neil is having fun and will want to keep going," but I think it is the exact opposite; he knows this is it and is just enjoying this one last tour.
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Several times Neil was just smiling back there, and while some would say, "Neil is having fun and will want to keep going," but I think it is the exact opposite; he knows this is it and is just enjoying this one last tour.
Exactly. When has Neil ever had fun?
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I think Neil has always said that he enjoys the creative process in the studio far more than performing live, which is probably unusual for a drummer to say, but Neil has always been not your average rock drummer (obviously).
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And without giving away too much to those who are still going to see them this tour, the final video after the last song was very bittersweet. It was like a symbolic walking off into retirement. I had moments near the end of the show where I almost felt a bit sad, cause I knew my final time seeing them was coming to an end. Call me a sentimental fool, but when it comes to the soundtrack of my life, Rush has a bigger piece of the pie than anyone else, and while I know it is time, it is still kind of a bummer, which sounds crazy when you consider how much they have given us following their 4-year hiatus from 1997-2001.
:( :( :(
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If you had to take a guess, do you think there will be one last studio album. Or just the likely 40 anniversary dvd/blu-Ray/cd?
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If you had to take a guess, do you think there will be one last studio album. Or just the likely 40 anniversary dvd/blu-Ray/cd?
My guess would be that I wouldn't be surprised at all if they keep producing the occasional album, or even occasionally play live. To my understanding, the only problem that some of the members have (Neil) is the grind and time involved in a world tour. None of them dislike creating music.
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If you had to take a guess, do you think there will be one last studio album. Or just the likely 40 anniversary dvd/blu-Ray/cd?
My guess would be that I wouldn't be surprised at all if they keep producing the occasional album, or even occasionally play live. To my understanding, the only problem that some of the members have (Neil) is the grind and time involved in a world tour. None of them dislike creating music.
But the biggest problem (to me at least) is that if they make more albums, people are gonna want to hear the songs live. If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk.
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It's not like we will force them to tour. :lol
They've earned the right to do what they want, how they want, whenever they want. They owe us fans nothing. That being said, if this is the last time live, I will cherish it forever.
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Oh I know, they've given us too much! Just sayin, a new album and a new tour go hand-in-hand, and it'll be odd getting new albums without a tour. But whatever they choose to do, is fine by me. I will also cherish this last show to the max!
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Me too! I just hope like I said in an earlier post that they do like The Who, play a 10 city tour once in a while.
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I actually think that Rush still has an album or two in them.
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I still don't understand why people seem to think they've had their last chance to see Rush. They've kinda said that this will be the last tour of this scale, but no one has even said that in truly definitive terms. But assuming that is true, they've even said they will look at short tours, residencies, and other things, so it's not the end of the world yet.
And you know how I can guarantee this isn't the final tour they ever do? Because if it was, and they knew that, every single venue, promoter, and cash loving person everywhere would be screaming from the mountaintops and putting neon lights on billboards to make sure we knew this was our last chance, and would set prices accordingly. Don't get me wrong, tickets aren't cheap, but they'd be a lot worse if this was a farewell tour.
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I disagree, because that premise assumes that Rush knows with 100% certainty that this is it, but I don't think that is the case. I am guessing Neil is like 99%, while Geddy and Alex are not. Plus, they are not the type to advertise a farewell tour; it's just not their style.
Lolzeez, I could see another album, but I could also see them doing a few songs here or a few songs there, and releasing them as individual songs rather than doing whole albums.
Or I could see Geddy going for a 2nd studio album. He seems to be the most gung-ho on not stopping working, and I think it'd be neat to hear him take another crack at a solo album. He could probably get an all-star lineup at this point to play on it.
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I have never seen Rush live. Not the biggest fan, but have a live DVD, and most of their prog era CDs. Not buying a ticket for the show in my area, I have to pay 120 or whatever on Stubhub. Should I go?
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I have never seen Rush live. Not the biggest fan, but have a live DVD, and most of their prog era CDs. Not buying a ticket for the show in my area, I have to pay 120 or whatever on Stubhub. Should I go?
If you're not a fan, then I don't see why.
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I have never seen Rush live. Not the biggest fan, but have a live DVD, and most of their prog era CDs. Not buying a ticket for the show in my area, I have to pay 120 or whatever on Stubhub. Should I go?
If you're not a fan, then I don't see why.
I would say the opposite. Never close yourself of. Go, it could change your perception or not. Still soak in the experience.
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I still don't understand why people seem to think they've had their last chance to see Rush. They've kinda said that this will be the last tour of this scale, but no one has even said that in truly definitive terms. But assuming that is true, they've even said they will look at short tours, residencies, and other things, so it's not the end of the world yet.
BUT...if the only other tours they do from here on out are 5-10 dates max then tickets will be pretty damn hard to come by and pricey as hell. So it is the last chance for a lot of people to see them. I also don't think Rush are that pretentious that they would even want to have a farewell tour unless they knew with absolute certainty that they were calling it quits. They are one of the more forthcoming bands.
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I still don't understand why people seem to think they've had their last chance to see Rush. They've kinda said that this will be the last tour of this scale, but no one has even said that in truly definitive terms. But assuming that is true, they've even said they will look at short tours, residencies, and other things, so it's not the end of the world yet.
BUT...if the only other tours they do from here on out are 5-10 dates max then tickets will be pretty damn hard to come by and pricey as hell. So it is the last chance for a lot of people to see them. I also don't think Rush are that pretentious that they would even want to have a farewell tour unless they knew with absolute certainty that they were calling it quits. They are one of the more forthcoming bands.
The three of them might be, but they've shown no great effort to throw off the leash of management over the past decade. We've discussed it in the other thread before of how they've been quite liberal in getting money out of hardcore fans over the past many years. This tour is another very small example of that. They mentioned when they weren't doing anything last year that who cares, we can always celebrate our 41st anniversary! Yet you notice we aren't all going to the R41 tour.
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I think it's my last time because I think they will continue to play live...but not in my area.
They may do 2 nights at Radio City, or 2 nights in LA somewhere, or possibly as MS hinted at, a residency somewhere. But I think major venues in major cities will be it. I'd be shocked if they ever came back just to do a night in Seattle. (although...we have a reputation of packing the house every time they've been here)
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Xanadu from Excel Energy Center - St. Paul, MN May 12, 2015 :tup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkvq8wQtl3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkvq8wQtl3o)
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Xanadu from Excel Energy Center - St. Paul, MN May 12, 2015 :tup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkvq8wQtl3o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkvq8wQtl3o)
Nice.
I actually came in to post that I have been listening to the St. Paul boot NON STOP! A great show.
Neil is playing great. Very impressed. The vocals are a train wreck though, but I can deal with it. Playing wise, the band is smoking!
I now regret not getting tix to this tour. I thought about it, but figured I may pick them up closer to the show. Unfortunately, they're all gone now!
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Tim, I know someone trying to sell her 2 tickets to the Boston show.
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Tim, I know someone trying to sell her 2 tickets to the Boston show.
Can you PM me the Section and cost?
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Let me contact and pm you
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Let me contact and pm you
:facepalm:
I was thinking something in the United States! Preferably Boston. :lol
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Me too since she lives in NH and didn't post where the show was.
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I actually came in to post that I have been listening to the St. Paul boot NON STOP! A great show.
Neil is playing great. Very impressed. The vocals are a train wreck though, but I can deal with it. Playing wise, the band is smoking!
Interestingly, I am seeing a lot of people online talking about how many mistakes Alex is making. I mentioned the other day that I thought he didn't look as relaxed as usual, and I am guessing the arthritis in his hands is really bothering him. I cant imagine trying to play all of that material for nearly 3 hours every other night when your hands are hurting like that (or in the case of Neil, his shoulder).
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Alex has always been on the sloppy side though.
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I actually came in to post that I have been listening to the St. Paul boot NON STOP! A great show.
Neil is playing great. Very impressed. The vocals are a train wreck though, but I can deal with it. Playing wise, the band is smoking!
Interestingly, I am seeing a lot of people online talking about how many mistakes Alex is making. I mentioned the other day that I thought he didn't look as relaxed as usual, and I am guessing the arthritis in his hands is really bothering him. I cant imagine trying to play all of that material for nearly 3 hours every other night when your hands are hurting like that (or in the case of Neil, his shoulder).
I noticed a few times where he missed a note at the beginning of a few solos. No big deal though. He sounds great, and is jamming big time.
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Rush continues to be one of the most expensive tickets on the market. I turned down pretty good lowers this morning because I can't bring myself to pay $175 for fucking balcony seats on general principle. Every time they tour I say to myself I'm not doing it again, which I was content to do this tour, as well. General principle also precludes me from not seeing that second set, but as is now customary they manage to leave a pretty sour taste in my mouth.
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I feel like this Bart with most large venues. All the band that play these venues charge through the roof. Some bands tour in packages have not released any new music in a decade and expect top dollar. I'm drifting more and more towards smaller venues for the intimacy and price.
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If the set list rotation continues at its current pattern, the two shows in Toronto will get the B and C sets, which only leave out "Red Barchetta" out of the currently played list of songs. If they release the C set list as the main show (which includes half of PEW), the B set-only songs would be extra/bonus tracks (The Wreckers, How It Is, Between The Wheels, and The Camera Eye), which would be tacked onto the end of the 3CD set anyway.
I'm sure if the Losing It rumor is true, it'll get added for one or both Toronto shows. I'm really hoping it gets played!
-Marc.
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While I'm still pretty offended by the $175 balcony seats, that really was just one helluva show. Aside from the killer setlist the production was just top notch across the board. I haven't seen it mentioned here, but the lighting was the best I've seen in 20 years. It was at times quite spectacular, and very clever in the way that it followed the same de-evolution of the rest of the show.
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My prediction is that they have another album in them in the next couple of years. Probably a tour to support it with an opening act so they don't have to play the three hour set at that age.. I don't think R40 is the end B-)
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It's not like we will force them to tour. :lol
They've earned the right to do what they want, how they want, whenever they want. They owe us fans nothing. That being said, if this is the last time live, I will cherish it forever.
A-effin-men!
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I still don't understand why people seem to think they've had their last chance to see Rush. They've kinda said that this will be the last tour of this scale, but no one has even said that in truly definitive terms. But assuming that is true, they've even said they will look at short tours, residencies, and other things, so it's not the end of the world yet.
And you know how I can guarantee this isn't the final tour they ever do? Because if it was, and they knew that, every single venue, promoter, and cash loving person everywhere would be screaming from the mountaintops and putting neon lights on billboards to make sure we knew this was our last chance, and would set prices accordingly. Don't get me wrong, tickets aren't cheap, but they'd be a lot worse if this was a farewell tour.
I'm already cringing for the Ray Danniels "Limited Engagement" Tour in a few years. Really not looking forward to paying $500 for a seat a Radio City, but that's where this is going...
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I feel like this Bart with most large venues. All the band that play these venues charge through the roof. Some bands tour in packages have not released any new music in a decade and expect top dollar. I'm drifting more and more towards smaller venues for the intimacy and price.
Agreed. I don't deal with Ticketbastard anymore unless it's Rush and this may be the last time for that too. There's not a lot that beats great musicians at 5 or 10 feet away these days.
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If you had to take a guess, do you think there will be one last studio album. Or just the likely 40 anniversary dvd/blu-Ray/cd?
Sweet memories....
Have at it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvIOW6_BqXc&list=PLbGIOJFZ60rYDVN7NHDDG5PaFJULSetyK&index=21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93M_1-K31gU&index=22&list=PLbGIOJFZ60rYDVN7NHDDG5PaFJULSetyK
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Wow! That's impressive. The screens are fantastic. Love the wall of Marshalls behind Alex.
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While I'm still pretty offended by the $175 balcony seats, that really was just one helluva show. Aside from the killer setlist the production was just top notch across the board. I haven't seen it mentioned here, but the lighting was the best I've seen in 20 years. It was at times quite spectacular, and very clever in the way that it followed the same de-evolution of the rest of the show.
https://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=528311
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Here's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5fFAIF8uVM) an excellent video of the Lincoln performance Jacob's Ladder. The video with the entire concert I found wasn't nearly as bassy as this video.
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If the set list rotation continues at its current pattern, the two shows in Toronto will get the B and C sets, which only leave out "Red Barchetta" out of the currently played list of songs. If they release the C set list as the main show (which includes half of PEW), the B set-only songs would be extra/bonus tracks (The Wreckers, How It Is, Between The Wheels, and The Camera Eye), which would be tacked onto the end of the 3CD set anyway.
I'm sure if the Losing It rumor is true, it'll get added for one or both Toronto shows. I'm really hoping it gets played!
-Marc.
I'd be fine with Red Barchetta not getting recorded, as there are plenty of versions of it out there.
Someone posted a short recording of Losing It from the soundcheck in Austin: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=913029165386262&id=482571121765404
My prediction is that they'll play it at one or both of the Toronto shows with the violinist (can't remember his name right now).
Forget playing "Losing It" - you know what they should be playing? EUROPE!
According to the Classic Rock interview Kev posted in the spoiler-free thread Geddy wants to do a Euro leg next year, but whether it happens or not depends on how Alex and Neil feel about this summer tour. He thinks they'll dig it, though! :caffeine:
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If the set list rotation continues at its current pattern, the two shows in Toronto will get the B and C sets, which only leave out "Red Barchetta" out of the currently played list of songs. If they release the C set list as the main show (which includes half of PEW), the B set-only songs would be extra/bonus tracks (The Wreckers, How It Is, Between The Wheels, and The Camera Eye), which would be tacked onto the end of the 3CD set anyway.
I'm sure if the Losing It rumor is true, it'll get added for one or both Toronto shows. I'm really hoping it gets played!
-Marc.
I'd be fine with Red Barchetta not getting recorded, as there are plenty of versions of it out there.
Someone posted a short recording of Losing It from the soundcheck in Austin: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=913029165386262&id=482571121765404
Came in here to share that very same video, but you did it for me! Thanks! And HOLY CRAP, I can't believe they're soundchecking the song. I hope the eventual performance(s) of it turn out great!
Interesting how they most likely dropped "The Big Money" as Alex has said there are now POW or HYF songs on this tour. Has a song ever been listed in a tour book as having any sort of video credits, and then been dropped for the tour before it even starts (during rehearsals)? This is the first time that I can think of, but then again, I haven't been too familiar with their tour books (if I could only afford the Tour Book Box Set...)
-Marc.
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Pretty cool to sorta hear the Losing It soundcheck! I really hope they play it at one of the recorded shows. Some of the best Rush lyrics ever. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Pretty cool to sorta hear the Losing It soundcheck! I really hope they play it at one of the recorded shows. Some of the best Rush lyrics ever. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
https://youtu.be/8BAyfBbDWOM
Longer video with more of the song in it, for those who want to hear it/haven't seen it yet.
-Marc.
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Wow, that's awesome. Couldn't open the Facebook link anyway.
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I think Losing It is a fantastic song. But am I the only one that thinks given the nature of this tour, that it'd be depressing as hell for them to play? I mean, not even bittersweet. Just plain sad.
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So I've been looking at Neil's R40 kit and trying to figure out what symbols he's got this time. I've got them all figured out except one - it's a circle with a dot in the middle. Where's that from?
The other 8 are easily recognizable
Clockwork Angels gear
Snakes And Arrows snake/arrow
Test For Echo stone statue
Counterparts screw and nut
Roll The Bones skull
Presto rabbit-in-hat
Grace Under Pressure P/g
2112 Starman
-Marc.
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So I've been looking at Neil's R40 kit and trying to figure out what symbols he's got this time. I've got them all figured out except one - it's a circle with a dot in the middle. Where's that from?
It's a boob.
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So I've been looking at Neil's R40 kit and trying to figure out what symbols he's got this time. I've got them all figured out except one - it's a circle with a dot in the middle. Where's that from?
It's a boob.
Ah, of course. So it's representing Permanent Waves, then?
-Marc.
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is it a Hold Your Fire dot/sphere by chance?
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is it a Hold Your Fire dot/sphere by chance?
Maybe? What's THAT look like?
- Marc.
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are you serious or am I being punked?
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/rush/images/7/77/Hold_Your_Fire.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100611190512)
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are you serious or am I being punked?
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/rush/images/7/77/Hold_Your_Fire.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100611190512)
Oh. You said HYF and I thought you meant something OTHER than the album cover. No, the symbol on his drums is a literal circle with a dot in the middle. Not three dots, or circles, or spheres - just one circle, one dot in the middle, and it looks like a two-dimensional boob.
-Marc.
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It's a boob.
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I've tossed a few boobs in my lifetime.
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:zydar:
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I know it's already represented, but I believe that is another SAA symbol.
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https://youtu.be/o78bcxVXyVM?t=1m37s
-Marc.
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reminds me of Dr Manhattan's hydrogen atom symbol (minus the electron)
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Great show in Atlanta last night. My first outdoor concert in 15 years. I refrained from looking at the set list prior to the show and glad I did. So satisfying to hear songs I have not heard live. The combination of the set list and great sound made this a top 3 concert ever for me.
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I was at the Atlanta show as well, and the boys we're freaking amazing -- especially that 2nd set run from MP through 2112.
Favorite whole song was probably "Xanadu"
Favorite moment though was leading up to the big guitar solo in "2112: Overture" -- when me and my brother looked at one another and started jamming the solo in unison...
A great night!
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So, are we not seeing any more trade-out songs? Not complaining...just seems like we were half-expecting a 3 or 4 set rotation with about 6-7 songs being traded out...and so far it seems like we're just getting a standard A/B setlist with about 4 songs (?) being traded out. Is that about right so far?
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No, there are 3 setlists: A, B, and C. Something like 8 songs are not being played every night.
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The "B" set is easily my favorite, and as am currently set to get it at 2 of my 4 shows. REALLY hope nothing fucks up the rotation.
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Looks like I'll be getting one show with a set B and one with a set C, which is a really nice lineup. Set A is my least favorite of them anyway, but they're all pretty great.
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My other two shows are set to be C shows. I'll be missing out on the A sets, but I can live with that.
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Chicago is getting C, which is fine by me....Natural Science ;D
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The band killed it last night in Greensboro. I didn't look at any set lists beforehand and was thrilled with what they played. I was so surprised they played so much old stuff, particularly A Farewell to Kings material. Xanadu -> 2112 was insane and should have been illegal as half the crowd almost died from the awesomeness.
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Looking ahead to the rumored recording of the Toronto shows, they'll be playing the B and C setlists (if they continue their pattern), and of the two, I'm willing to bet that the MAIN show will be the C set, which includes 3 songs from PEW and 3 songs from HEMI, and is the longer of the 3 sets. With that in mind, I'm hoping they release the B set-only songs as bonus tracks on the DVD and CD sets, and I figured the 3CD set will look something like this...
Disc 1 ~ 60-65 mins (1st Set)
1. The Anarchist
2. Clockwork Angels
3. Headling Flight (w/Drumbastica)
4. Far Cry
5. The Main Monkey Business
6. One Little Victory
7. Animate
8. Roll The Bones
9. Distant Early Warning
10. Subdivisions
11. Losing It (Maybe? Here or before Subdivisions, or in place of...)
Disc 2 ~ 74 mins (2nd Set)
1. Tom Sawyer
2. YYZ
3. The Spirit Of Radio
4. Natural Science
5. Jacob's Ladder
6. Cygnus X-1, Book 2: Hemispheres (Prelude)
7. Cygnux X-1, Book 1: The Voyage (Prologue, Drum Solo, 3)
8. Closer To The Heart
9. Xanadu
10. 2112 (Overture, The Temples Of Syrinx, Presentation, Grand Finale)
Disc 3 ~ 44-50 mins (Encore & Bonus Tracks)
1. Lakeside Park
2. Anthem
3. What You're Doing
4. Working Man (w/Garden Road teaser)
5. The Wreckers
6. How It Is
7. Between The Wheels
8. The Camera Eye
9. Red Barchetta (Maybe?)
The first and 2nd discs could be a little longer if they perform "Losing It" and include the Set A-only track "Red Barchetta" (although no big loss if RB isn't included).
Either way, it would be AMAZING if they released all 30 of these songs on the eventual live album.
-Marc.
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Based on the many reviews I am reading of shows, their week off after tonight couldn't come at a better time. Many are saying that Alex just looks in pain up there (his hands are really bothering him, apparently) and not having fun. I noticed he wasn't as animated and silly as usual at our show, and ours was only the 4th show of the damn tour. I hate to say it, but I suspect he cannot wait until August 2nd. :(
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Greensboro, NC - Full Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YuqwZ2yIe8
Losing It (complete soundcheck!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdI_R6zwfWk
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The logo featuring the dot and circle on Neil's drums may just be a template for where the air vents are located - like on the upper tom in this picture:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ad/58/c4/ad58c4b18ad3d67a637aaebb0f5201f9.jpg)
Or it's a boob :lol
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So it's official. there will be a DTF meet up for the Rush show on Montreal. A buddy backed out and Chad is flying in to join us for 2 days of debauchery! :metal
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So it's official. there will be a DTF meet up for the Rush show on Montreal. A buddy backed out and Chad is flying in to join us for 2 days of debauchery! :metal
Nice!
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I actually came in to post that I have been listening to the St. Paul boot NON STOP! A great show.
Neil is playing great. Very impressed. The vocals are a train wreck though, but I can deal with it. Playing wise, the band is smoking!
Interestingly, I am seeing a lot of people online talking about how many mistakes Alex is making. I mentioned the other day that I thought he didn't look as relaxed as usual, and I am guessing the arthritis in his hands is really bothering him. I cant imagine trying to play all of that material for nearly 3 hours every other night when your hands are hurting like that (or in the case of Neil, his shoulder).
I cannot vouch for the historical sense of Alex's playing live; not that big of a fan. He sounded fine to me at the Cbus show. I will say energy wise, he was pretty reserved, and Geddy was very engaged as per his norm. I think if there is one member who gets the most joy out of touring, it's him at least appearance wise.
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I think Losing It is a fantastic song. But am I the only one that thinks given the nature of this tour, that it'd be depressing as hell for them to play? I mean, not even bittersweet. Just plain sad.
Are you kidding me? I'll be a blubbering idiot if they play this at MSG for those exact reasons.
I've pretty much considered this tour to be a huge celebration, but that song will be a complete 180 for me.
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https://youtu.be/o78bcxVXyVM?t=1m37s
-Marc.
Looks to me like it's not finished yet at that point.
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I'm planning on A, B, and C. although as of now I just have tickets for A.
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I think Losing It is a fantastic song. But am I the only one that thinks given the nature of this tour, that it'd be depressing as hell for them to play? I mean, not even bittersweet. Just plain sad.
Are you kidding me? I'll be a blubbering idiot if they play this at MSG for those exact reasons.
I've pretty much considered this tour to be a huge celebration, but that song will be a complete 180 for me.
I imagine you won't be the only one :lol
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Losing It was played for the first time ever tonight in Toronto, with guest star Ben Mink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR1SHUWefYY
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Yeah, Chad texted me a picture of Ben Mink playing the violin. Jealous!
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Awesome! And the Toronto shows was going to be filmed, right?
:hefdaddy
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Both nights were. :metal
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Awesome. Can't wait for the CD/DVD releases, probably early next year. Sucks to hear that Lerxst's arthritis is troubling him so. :(
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'twas an amazing show. The did setlist A on Wednesday, and a combo of B/C last night - 1st half set was B (How it Is, Between the Wheels; 2nd half set was C (YYZ, Natural Science). They dropped The Wreckers though to fit in Losing It. Cygnus-x1.net has the new setlist up. Reeeeaaaly hoping we get Setlist A tomorrow in Montreal, thus my life will be complete (Red Barchetta and Xanadu are my top 2 Rush songs by a fair margin).
Gonna be a great DVD.
aaarf-40. :2metal:
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Hmmm, so The Camera Eye wasn't played at either Toronto show. Interesting.
Hopefully, Losing It is part of the regular concert part of the eventual Blu-Ray/DVD and not just one of the bonus cuts.
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Hmmm, so The Camera Eye wasn't played at either Toronto show. Interesting.
Neither was "The Wreckers". I kind of hope that both tracks get recorded and tacked onto the end of the 3CD set as extras, in addition to including all the tracks from both Toronto shows. Here's my ideal 3CD set:
Disc 1 ~ 57 minutes
The Anarchist
Headlong Flight
Far Cry
The Main Monkey Business
How It Is
Animate
Roll The Bones
Between the Wheels
Losing It (with Ben Mink)
Subdivisions
Disc 2 ~ 65 minutes
Tom Sawyer
YYZ
The Spirit of Radio
Natural Science
Jacob's Ladder
Cygnus X-1 Book Two: Hemispheres - Prelude
Cygnus X-1 Book One: The Voyage
Closer To The Heart
Xanadu
2112 ( I - II - IV - VII)
Disc 3 ~ 55 minutes
Lakeside Park
Anthem
What You're Doing
Working Man (Garden Road riff at the end)
Clockwork Angels
One Little Victory
Distant Early Warning
Red Barchetta
The Wreckers
The Camera Eye
Hopefully, Losing It is part of the regular concert part of the eventual Blu-Ray/DVD and not just one of the bonus cuts.
Considering how much of a milestone this performance is, I doubt they will relegate it to bonus material status. It's likely a one-off performance, at theur home show, on a huge anniversary tour. It'll definitely be a showcase for the live release, if not a huge draw for fans, hardcore or even casual.
-Marc.
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Second night was better than the first night from what I understand. I saw the second show online and got major chills when they played Losing It (even knowing it was coming when the dropped Clockwork Angels) 33 years went into those 5 and a half minutes.
They should have closed out the set with it. Going right into Subdivisions like that was not cool. I got left behind and I'd imagine some others did too. I'd have been in tears if I was there and it's not even a huge favorite of mine, but that moment was more than just the music. Alex and Geddy seemed to be having a blast jamming with Ben Mink like that.
There have been quite a few Rush live moments over the years and this one is pretty high on the list. I'd imagine that last LA show is going to another one.
As cool as it would have been to see them do this with the orchestra last time, this was the right moment. They got it so perfect this time. Although they may sample the performance going forward, it won't come close to having Ben Mink live there last night.
Can't wait for next week.
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Sitting in a hotel room with Chad and my brother. Painted Montreal tonight and tomorrow the Rush show. So stocked.
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i haven't kept up with the setlist rotation, any ideas what setlist Philly is likely to get thursday?
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It was supposed to get B, which is what I want, but the 2nd Toronto show may have screwed things up a bit. We'll know more tonight after Montreal.
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If the rotation did get fucked up, and they do A tonight, I'm going to be pissed. I'll go from having two B shows and two C shows to two C shows and two A shows. The best scenario changed to the worst scenario. If that's the case I'll either be ditching Newark for MSG, or adding a fifth show.
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Sorry Nick. It was setlist A.
Great show. The stage set up was incredible, the guys were on and great to hear so many special songs.
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Well, thankfully, I might have fucked up my initial counting months back. Seems I'll get B in Phoenix and C in Vegas. That said, just to be sure, I'll likely hit MSG. You can't have too much Rush, right?
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Losing It was played for the first time ever tonight in Toronto, with guest star Ben Mink.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR1SHUWefYY
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Kind of expected, but awesome nevertheless! :hefdaddy
I wish they would've played The Camera Eye instead of Red Barchetta, 'cause the only official live recording we have of TCE is on Time Machine, but maybe that one and The Wreckers will appear as bonus tracks from other shows.
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Still waiting on Emotion Detector :hat:
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ZZZZZZZZZ.. eh, wha? Have they announced European Tour Dates yet? No? wake me up when they do... Zzzzzzz...
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Still waiting on Emotion Detector :hat:
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Hello Boston!!
Started in Columbus on June 8th. 7 shows down, and four more to go before we head on back home. Having a fucking blast. But there is a feeling of near desperation to soak it all in because the end is near. :metal
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Temp were you in Montreal? We drove from NH to see them. I've got to say that stadium had good acoustics for being so damn large.
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I'll be at the Philly show this Thursday, tailgating beforehand (weather permitting), if anybody in attendance wants to stop by and say hi.
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Setlist.fm is showing set list C for Philly, though that isn't until tomorrow.
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I'll be at the Philly show this Thursday, tailgating beforehand (weather permitting), if anybody in attendance wants to stop by and say hi.
I'll be there tailgaiting as well, planning to get there by 3:30.
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Also, I'll have some burgers if you want them.
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Figured you would offer sausage.
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Figured you would offer sausage.
That's just for you. <3
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:sexytime:
Wait.
:heybaby:
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We're doing hot dogs. And beer, of course. I'll have to text you when I get there and see where you're at. We're leaving around 2, so we should be arriving by like 3:30-4:00
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:tup
Only 1 more day...
I AM SO DAMNED EXCITE
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:tup
Only 1 more day...
I AM SO DAMNED EXCITE
Enjoy the show!
I have 2 more days to wait!!! :metal
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tonight :metal
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Met up with Nick. Pic in the pic thread.
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That. Was. Incredible.
It was so cool being with my best friend who didn't know the set. I really wish I could hold off from knowing like that.
The first set was good, nothing spectacular or out of this world, but the changes on stage were really cool to watch. But that 2nd set... holy god. The first three songs thankfully seemed to fly by (night), and then the real fun began. I will say it seemed they were a little off during Hemispheres, but otherwise they nailed all the old material. Can't believe how aggressively Geddy went after some of the material.
SQUEEEEEEEEEE
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Yeah, it's amazing how great Geddy is sounding (tuned down or not) for that second set. When I saw them last week, I thought that maybe he was saving it just for the DVD recorded shows, but nope... he was nailing all the same notes in Montreal.
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Outstanding show. This has been a very long and somewhat hungover morning. But that's okay. Last night was awesome.
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I never get hangovers anymore. Chad saw in Montreal. I drank many high % beers and I felt good every morning. Just hungry.
Jacob's Ladder was so damn awesome live. So glad they played that. I think it's been since the early 80's they've played that live.
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agree with all of the above, that was an incredible show. i feel so fortunate to have been able to see the three most recent tours, each of which having something special or unique about the set, and giving a wide variety of songs. If i never see Rush again this will be the perfect swan song for them, tho i do hope they continue to play occasionally :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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agree with all of the above, that was an incredible show. i feel so fortunate to have been able to see the three most recent tours, each of which having something special or unique about the set, and giving a wide variety of songs. If i never see Rush again this will be the perfect swan song for them, tho i do hope they continue to play occasionally :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Agree with everything (I also only saw the 3 recent tours)
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That. Was. Incredible.
It was so cool being with my best friend who didn't know the set. I really wish I could hold off from knowing like that.
The first set was good, nothing spectacular or out of this world, but the changes on stage were really cool to watch. But that 2nd set... holy god. The first three songs thankfully seemed to fly by (night), and then the real fun began. I will say it seemed they were a little off during Hemispheres, but otherwise they nailed all the old material. Can't believe how aggressively Geddy went after some of the material.
SQUEEEEEEEEEE
The deevolution of the stage was great, but the same thing happened with the lighting, as well. I think I found that more interesting. As I probably said earlier, that's the best stage lighting I've seen since 95 and they used it perfectly. From a conceptual standpoint that show was unique and quite seriously bad ass.
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Two shows in my area in the next few days. Prudential Center in Newark NJ on Saturday, and at MSG in NY City on Monday. I've been waffling about getting tickets while the prices go up and up. I will likely not be able to go to the Saturday show, and the Monday show tickets are $220 each now..
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The show I'm going to isn't until the last weekend in July. Good to see posts saying Geddy is bringing his A game voice. Really looking forward to that. His singing is pivotal in the success of each of their shows. The guy does so much and just keeps doing it. Not to take anything away from Alex and Neil. Those guys are beyond great, but I believe that Geddy Lee is probably the most talented and gifted musician I have ever seen or heard about.
Damn, I love this band.
:hefdaddy
:hefdaddy
:hefdaddy
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Hopefully I get to see them this tour; everything is sounding great!
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Just got tickets for the NYC show at MSG! They were a bit cheaper than I thought, and I got pretty good seats. There were floor seats available, but I figured I would get a much better view from the 200-level seats:
(https://cache11.stubhubstatic.com/sectionviews/venues/1282/config/588385/500x271/368535.jpg)
I had similar seats last year for a Billy Joel concert and they were pretty good, so I'm pretty happy I was able to grab these. The floor seats would have been far in the back, and my view would likely have been blocked by the few thousand people standing in front of me:
(https://cache11.stubhubstatic.com/sectionviews/venues/1282/config/588385/500x271/368339.jpg)
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Yeah... unless you're in the first 8 rows, floor seats blow.
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I don't have tickets for MSG yet, but since I bought Philly and Newark last minute, I pretty much know where I'll likely be sitting come Monday.
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ZZZZZZZZZ.. eh, wha? Have they announced European Tour Dates yet? No? wake me up when they do... Zzzzzzz...
You're not alone, I'm also waiting for European Tour Dates.
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So they totally played "Losing It" again tonight in NJ. Anyone who decided to skip this show missed out on a set list that included both "The Camera Eye" AND "Losing It", in addition to the already constantly-played "Jacob's Ladder". I would have never dreamed that all three of those tracks would EVER be played live, together, in the same night, at the same show. What a jaw-dropping set those guys played tonight. Good for them, and good for the fans who caught that show.
-Marc.
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Yeah, I was one of those!
I knew that they planned to play Losing It tomorrow in NYC, but was completely expecting the normal A set last night. Did I ever get excited when they only played two songs from Clockwork Angels, and super happy it panned out.
We were on the side in Philly, but dead center for this. Completely missed many of the lights on the first show, and really enjoyed them last night, really cool production. Will be back to post more at some point.
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Too awesome.
From Newark last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNne9oAx9Fc
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Oh man, chills. And what a cool bass guitar!
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:hefdaddy
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Man, that's a pro shot!!
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I had a feeling they'd play that again when I read it had been played in soundchecks even after Toronto. Great performance! :tup
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Temp were you in Montreal? We drove from NH to see them. I've got to say that stadium had good acoustics for being so damn large.
Yes. The show was great! In NYC now. We're all headed to Reds/Mets game in a few minutes.
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Sweet. Have a great time with the boys.
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Too awesome.
From Newark last night:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNne9oAx9Fc
WOW!!!!!
As much as I ragged on Signals when it came out, I have always loved Losing It.
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Fan Plans to Build Rush's Lifeson a Guitar That Will Help With His Arthritis (https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/fan_plans_to_build_rushs_lifeson_a_guitar_that_will_help_with_his_arthritis.html)
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Yeah, I was one of those!
I knew that they planned to play Losing It tomorrow in NYC, but was completely expecting the normal A set last night. Did I ever get excited when they only played two songs from Clockwork Angels, and super happy it panned out.
We were on the side in Philly, but dead center for this. Completely missed many of the lights on the first show, and really enjoyed them last night, really cool production. Will be back to post more at some point.
Still liked Newark more although enjoyed the light show in Philly. Nearly lost it when they went into Headlong Flight, but the first set was so awesome I forgot all about Losing It until halfway through Between the Wheels. Had the wind sucked out of me when it started.
If that ends up being my last show, (depending on how a possible residency tour goes) I'm totally cool with it.
This has all been one huge celebration.
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I don't know if anyone has posted this, but I watched this the other night, full show from Houston, a two camera composite. Its pretty great, sound is surprisingly good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLRdlVi-_H0
Not even a huge Rush fan, but I've been blasting them over the last couple weeks and I feel like they're finally starting to click for me. What an amazing band! I'm not THAT hurt about not being able to see them live, I don't think they've ever been to New Zealand anyway and I doubt they ever will now :lol
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I've kept out of this thread since I wanted to avoid the spoilers. I was coming back from a vacation in Louisville and on the way back I stopped in Kansas City. So I got to see the show there and then head back home the next day and then I caught the Denver show last night. Overall I was extremely glad I went to both shows. Over the course of the two shows I was treated to my top 5 favorites: Natural Science, Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder, 2/3rds Cygnus X-1, and Hemispheres (though of course only part 1). Everything else in that second set and encore was just gravy!
First set was hit and miss for me. I like the Wreckers and all but how the heck was Clockwork Angels getting swapped out for it? I definitely preferred BTW over DEW, but I would have preferred Afterimage or Enemy Within from GuP. I'm not a fan of How It Is or One Little Victory so I didn't really care what they did there. I really could have done without Roll the Bones and Far Cry but for some reason they really like those tracks. I thought The Anarchist worked really well as an opener. It was good hearing the Main Monkey Business again.
I've been seeing Rush since the Presto tour (though I missed R30). These definitely were my favorite Rush shows ever. I wouldn't call these sets my "dream setlists" but they are probably as close as reality and my preferences would ever get. And honestly better than I ever thought was possible. If this is indeed the last time I'll see them I can't complain at all. I'd say this is definitely the way to go out for them. I'd honestly rather see them go out as close to the top of their game as possible. Unlike Yes who I stopped seeing back in 2004 or something since I felt that the mistakes were starting to get very noticeable.
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I don't know if anyone has posted this, but I watched this the other night, full show from Houston, a two camera composite. Its pretty great, sound is surprisingly good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLRdlVi-_H0
Not even a huge Rush fan, but I've been blasting them over the last couple weeks and I feel like they're finally starting to click for me. What an amazing band! I'm not THAT hurt about not being able to see them live, I don't think they've ever been to New Zealand anyway and I doubt they ever will now :lol
Haven't seen the composite yet. I'll be checking this out, thanks.
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Well, I just scored my Rush tickets. They seem legit....almost TOO professional. Got them off Craigslist. Seemed like a really nice clean cut guy who was well put together, and even had them in a nice plastic "snap" envelope with all the info written neatly in Sharpie on the outside. If he's a con-man, he's a professional.
A red flag went off in my head when I decided to write down his licence plate number as he drove away in a nice gold Hummer H2....it was a dealer plate. :-\
I don't think the tickets are counterfeit....but I suspect that if anything is shady, it's because he's selling multiple copies. That would mean the first one scanned is the one that gets in....so I plan on lining up early and hitting the doors as early as possible.
I hope I get in. This one means a lot to me. I've told my son that this is the very last time I'm paying for him to go to a show with me. He's 22, a little "late to the launch", but getting closer to leaving home, so this is going to be kindof "the last hurrah" for us before I really start coming down harder on him to pay for all his own crap. I just had to take him to see Rush before they hang it up.
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Everything from Craigslist seems shady
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Yeah, I'd only buy from people that can be vouched for (people active inside Rush groups, etc), and places like StubHub that can actually get you your money back if things aren't right.
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Well...as it turned out, the tickets were legit and I got in with no issues.
Fantastic show. We didn't get Losing It (I figured we probably wouldn't since Vancouver had just got it Friday)...but we did get The Camera Eye, Jacob's Ladder and Xanadu...so I was thrilled.
Best Rush show I've ever been to. I'll post more in the morning. I'm exhausted.
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Good to hear about the tickets!
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I haven't followed this as close as the start of the tour, as the rotation has gotten waaaay out of whack since, but as it stands now, if no more special appearances happen, I'll get B in Vegas and C in Phoenix which would make me veeeeeery happy. Having seen those two already now, I won't complain if I end up getting an A, but I hope nothing changes. The added benefit is that my gf saw B in Newark, and she'll be with me for Phoenix, so I hope they play C there.
While I think you can debate A v. B, or B v. C, is there really anyone out there that would prefer A to C?
With C you lose Red Barchetta but gain YYZ AND Natural Science.
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BTW...in checking it this morning, Seattle got setlist B exactly. But of the primary ABC sets, B is certainly my favorite, so I can't complain. My absolute favorite is E (which just swaps out The Wreckers for Losing It)...but I feel like that's nitpicking. It was the most amazing Rush show I've ever seen.
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B and C are the best IMO (not counting D-F). I like Red Barchetta but I've seen it quite a number of times and Natural Science and Camera Eye are so much better.
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BTW...in checking it this morning, Seattle got setlist B exactly. But of the primary ABC sets, B is certainly my favorite, so I can't complain. My absolute favorite is E (which just swaps out The Wreckers for Losing It)...but I feel like that's nitpicking. It was the most amazing Rush show I've ever seen.
Here you go:
https://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=534705
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BTW...in checking it this morning, Seattle got setlist B exactly. But of the primary ABC sets, B is certainly my favorite, so I can't complain. My absolute favorite is E (which just swaps out The Wreckers for Losing It)...but I feel like that's nitpicking. It was the most amazing Rush show I've ever seen.
Awesome! Glad you got to go. B/C/D are my faves. I missed Red Barchetta and The Wreckers during my run, but it was totally worth it for the alternatives.
The three times I needed Rush tickets over the last 11 years I went to Craigslist or Ebay. (I protect myself as much as possible but I've never had any issues with it) I've NEVER been able to find anything close to face value for a Rush concert on Stub Hub. I consider Stub Hub to be legalized scalping.
I can't believe there are just something like 6 gigs left. Summer is going fast.
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Oh shush - Many of us still can't believe they've not announced a European leg yet (making it increasingly unlikely that they will)...
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What really blew me away was how fantastic Geddy sounded. Not only hitting the notes, but in some cases even *holding* them for extended periods. He sounds better now than he did at the beginning of the tour. In fact, I haven't heard him sound this good since the 90's.
My personal opinion? He recently went on record as having given up smoking pot. Regardless of any opinions anyone may have of the drug itself, I'm sure everyone here will at least admit that smoking *anything* is not the best idea if you want to keep up your singing voice. It really sounds like Geddy is the one guy in the band who is not feeling his age quite as much as the other two. I'm just happy he's feeling healthier and more spry than he has in a long time.
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I thought he said he had given up pot in the early 90s. ???
As for a European leg, sorry, TCO, but it ain't happening (barring a miracle).
Hard to believe that the probable end is so close now. :(
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I thought he said he had given up pot in the early 90s. ???
As for a European leg, sorry, TCO, but it ain't happening (barring a miracle).
Hard to believe that the probable end is so close now. :(
Maybe I just didn't read the date on the interview. I only just saw it posted somewhere recently...he seemed to talk like it was more recently than that. But maybe I just misconstrued the situation.
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I honestly feel blessed I got to see them twice this tour, and the excellent combination of setlists. The only songs I missed out on were The Camera Eye, and Between the Wheels. I'm ok with both, since I've seen BTW at least twice already, and we got TCE on the Time Machine Tour (+ I saw DT cover it). Getting Natural Science and Red Barchetta was a much better score.
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There will hardly be a European tour, it's looking less and less likely. I'm so glad I made the trip to see these guys two years ago. Deep down I sort of knew it was my only chance.
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I was just watching the "Oh Atlanta" bonus tracks from the S&A BluRay and it just occurred to me for the first time...
Have Geddy and Alex *EVER* made a perfect "spot on" transition into the "...and the meek shall inherit the earth" part of the 2112 Overture?
I mean, I understand that it's hard to know exactly when to come back in without either looking at each other or having some sort of "count off"...but I just think it's funny that after almost 40 years of playing it, I don't know that I've ever heard it be absolutely spot on. You'd think that they would have nailed it once, even if it was by accident. :rollin
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I honestly feel blessed I got to see them twice this tour, and the excellent combination of setlists. The only songs I missed out on were The Camera Eye, and Between the Wheels. I'm ok with both, since I've seen BTW at least twice already, and we got TCE on the Time Machine Tour (+ I saw DT cover it). Getting Natural Science and Red Barchetta was a much better score.
I was at the Phx show last night. Geddy's voice was amazing and Alex and Neil brought their A game as well. What an awesome show. Once again I was pleasantly reminded why they are my favorite band of all time. We also got TCE and BTW and that was sweet, but you're right. NS and RB would've been even better. No matter. Whatever set list you get, it'll be awesome anyway.
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I wish I would have that about you in advance, would have loved to say hi before the show!
Performance wise I'd say Phoenix was the best of the tour for me (others were Philly, Newark, and Las Vegas). Most notable improvement now as compared to those first two shows mid-tour was Hemispheres, they finally tightened that up.
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Each stretch of shows has been better than the previous stretch. Took more than a few early gigs to shake the rust off.
Just one left now.
Going to be any interesting viewing for sure.
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One more to go... :( :( :(
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This says it all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOWBLOuLIDU&feature=youtu.be&t=5m41s
(https://igcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11356005_986439974720392_1391909149_n.jpg)
*sheds a tear*
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Neil never does that. *keep it together Joe*
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Wow!
Get Joe a Kleenex. Or a bed sheet!
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:tup
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awesome!!
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One huge party last night.
Watched the whole thing online.
The guys were having a great time and I'm so happy for them. They deserve it.
Kind of feel bad for Geddy though, but even he was squeezing the most out of it.
I always thought I'd be sad when this moment came around but I'm just very happy and proud.
Can't ask for anything more really; whatever happens next.
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:'(
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This is the happiest I've seen Neal after concerts LOL
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I tried like hell to stay up and watch all of it online last night, but being that it was in LA and two hours behind where I am, I was just too tired and couldn't stay awake. Most accounts say that the band was great (although Geddy struggled at times vocally from what I saw) and the crowd had an energy that was unreal. If it was their last show, it sounds like it was a damn great one. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Where the heck were you guys watching it from online, last night? I wouldn't mind it if I saw it online in real-time if I couldn't make it.
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Periscope!
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The guys were having a great time and I'm so happy for them. They deserve it.
I always thought I'd be sad when this moment came around but I'm just very happy and proud.
Can't ask for anything more really; whatever happens next.
Well said. It was so nice to see Neil show so much emotion.
As much as I'd love to see them again as I've said before I'd rather see them go out on the top of their game. The first time I saw them was on the Presto tour and I thought then that I was catching them at the end of their career. I got to see them 13 times on 9 tours and they played almost all of my favorite songs across that period. Sure there are some songs I never got to see that I would have loved to, but with a catalog that vast I feel very fortunate for what I got to see. And this last tour especially was probably my favorite (even better than 2nd row on the TFE tour).
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rushs-alex-lifeson-whatever-this-tour-is-its-not-the-end-of-the-band/
Probably nothing new per se in that article, but Alex says that his arthritis don't hold him back when playing guitar - contrary to what people might think.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/rushs-alex-lifeson-whatever-this-tour-is-its-not-the-end-of-the-band/
Probably nothing new per se in that article, but Alex says that his arthritis don't hold him back when playing guitar - contrary to what people might think.
The podcast that article references was pretty good. As usual, he comes off as a pretty likeable guy. Good sense of humor.
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By now it's pretty obvious that there'll be no Euro leg (or full-blown tours, for that matter), but I'd be ready to travel and see them in, say, NYC or Toronto if they decide to do residencies. I'm glad to hear the arthritis isn't bothering Alex as much as everyone thought!
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Caught up again with them in Vegas and rode it out til the end; just got back last night. Been a terrific summer having been on the road all of June too. I'm exhausted and I haven't played one note of anything. :biggrin: A bunch of us made the last sound check. There was about 30 or 40 people there. Usually off limits. It was very emotional for everyone, but more for the fact that it was the end of the tour. Feel me?
I can tell you that a) the band is not breaking up. b) this is not the end...technically speaking. They were talking about working on new material this fall or winter last Tuesday even. c) who is to say if they do some, they won't do a several show type thing in Europe or elsewhere sometime?
That's all I got. Or rather all I can give you'se. :biggrin:
I'll see Ged again in October and will talk to him before that for sure. Doubt there is anything new then band related, but if there is, and I can... I'll let you know. Usually, I stay pretty silent about "stuff" and I will remain so relatively speaking. I won't betray my friends trust. But I do know this is a highly charged time for fans. Despite the fact that when they go out forever, it will be while on top of their game. And there ain't no spring chickens anywhere in sight. But this isn't goodbye for good.
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Thanks Temp! That is surely reassuring!
Can I ask you a question though? It seemed that it was Neil that they had to convince to do this tour. Do you think he was glad he went out, and do you feel it energized him at all for the future?
I thought he played as well as he ever has. The boots I have heard, he was absolutely ON!
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I saw an interview with Alex Lifeson that was posted on FB by Progressive Music Planet. This tour definitely isn't the end for Rush. It's just the end of long tour runs. I'm sure they will continue to record and probably do some short stints on the road. Whatever they decide, more power to them! It's been a privilege to be a Rush fan for 30 years. :)
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Thanks Temp! That is surely reassuring!
Can I ask you a question though? It seemed that it was Neil that they had to convince to do this tour. Do you think he was glad he went out, and do you feel it energized him at all for the future?
I thought he played as well as he ever has. The boots I have heard, he was absolutely ON!
While he's always been very nice to me, and we talk about many things when I see him, Neil is a very private guy for the most part; so I can't tell you exactly what he's been thinking. Here is what I do know. He does love to play, but he hates the touring part. Drums are something that are a part of him. Being a drummer doesn't define him though. He can collect wine, read to his daughter, feed the birds, write, whatever with equal aplomb. That's not to say he doesn't love playing and making music. And, I've been around and part of athletic teams, been around many other musicians, and bands, and various artists, and I can tell you I've never seen a group of guys who work together who genuinely love and respect each other like these guys do. They love to be and play together. I can't say Neil or anyone was energized at the end. They were all relieved and exhausted maybe. And they'd had a great time playing with each other and the fans. But at the end, it was time to move on to down time now. I don't know, because it never came up, but I don't know anyone got a second wind. I think everyone knows the end is nearer than it has been, and things will now drastically change; but I do know for sure all three want to keep playing on some level.
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Just got a text, the fellas and the Diamondbacks gave Randy Johnson a drum kit to commemorate his jersey retirement tonight. Game tonight was against my Reds too! Randy was with us all from Vegas on too. Very nice guy. Huge metalhead. Congrats R.J.!!
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working on new material this fall or winter
oh man
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You don't have to practice much for improv.
Just get into playing shape and let 'er fly...
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Doesn't look like it's official, yet, but it seems like the DVD for R40 will be out in November 20th. I shall buy it on 1st day of that date if it's indeed true.
Rush's R40 Live Album and Concert Film Coming November 20th. First Single Released Next Week
Ever since the end of the band's R40 tour in early August, fans have been anxious to learn more about the impending release of the live album and concert DVD. The band filmed and recorded both the June 17th and 19th shows at the Air Canada Centre in Toronto during the tour and while there hasn't been any official word from the band as yet, there is news that the R40 Live CD/DVD (as yet unnamed) will be released on November 20th of this year.
The news comes from an e-mail message that was sent out to various music industry professionals earlier today. Coming from Zoe/Rounder Records/Concord Music Group, the e-mail indicated that the live CD/DVD would be released on November 20th.
From the e-mail:
CD/DVD RELEASE DATE NOVEMBER 20, 2015
Unlike other concert DVD's where the looks is the same throughout, this show has an extremely extensive setup that changes multiple times throughout the show (as the set list moves back in time, the stage setup reflects the band's stage setup from that period in their career.)
* Amazing value with almost 3 hours of footage!
* Includes multiple songs that have either never been performed before or never been captured on video
Rumor has it that this was the band's last large-scale tour, making this an absolute necessity for a Rush fan to own...
In addition to the e-mail, Amazon.com has just listed the availability of the first single from the live CD. Roll The Bones - Live will be available for purchase as an MP3 download on September 25th.
We'll have more news on the impending release of the live CD/DVD as it becomes available.
https://news.cygnus-x1.net/2015/09/rushs-r40-live-album-and-concert-film.html
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Absolutely a must buy.
I finally just got the R40 BluRay box of all the previously released concert vids. Still haven't watched the S&A show (which is the only one I didn't previously own on DVD), so I'm hoping to get to that today.
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Giddy fucking up, and once again... happy birthday to me!
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Giddy fucking up, and once again... happy birthday to me!
Now to find yourself in the crowd!
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Giddy fucking up, and once again... happy birthday to me!
Now to find yourself in the crowd!
Not likely.
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Absolutely a must buy.
I finally just got the R40 BluRay box of all the previously released concert vids. Still haven't watched the S&A show (which is the only one I didn't previously own on DVD), so I'm hoping to get to that today.
Chicken!