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Title: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Accelerando on March 22, 2015, 02:06:25 PM: I decided to start this because before The Movie Thread got locked in response to the creation of the Movies and TV subform, there was a good conversation about Disney films.

Disney movies have spanned over 8 decades of pure entertainment, and I think most of us can vouch that we grew up with them and/or still watch them. From Snow White and Seven Dwarves to Mary Poppins to The Lion King to Pirates of the Caribbean, the pictures of Walt Disney and the company have embraced imagination and wonder.

I guess I grew up a Disney fan. I was a kid of the 90's, and I still remember my very first film I ever saw in the movie theater - The Lion King, which I saw an additional 3 times in the theater. To me it's still the best Disney animated movie ever made. My family took vacations to Walt Disney World and we became annual pass holders when we moved to Florida. I also ended up working there for some time too. Now I work in the Broadcast Productions department for the Walt Disney Parks and Resorts in Glendale, CA.

So what are some of your favorites? What films are you looking forward to? Seems like the Studio is in a current trend of remaking some of their classic animated films into live action movies.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: ariich on March 22, 2015, 02:26:30 PM: Huge Disney fan here. I love some of the old animated classics, and I also think what they've done with Pixar has been mostly phenomenal.

My top 10:

1. Up
2. Wall-E
3. Aladdin
4. The Emperor's New Groove
5. The Incredibles
6. Toy Story 3
7. The Lion King
8. Brave
9. Monsters Inc
10. Beauty and the Beast

I also think that Marvel have been doing a fantastic job under Disney ownership, which gives me a reasonably optimistic anticipation for what they can do with LucasFilm and the Star Wars franchise as well.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 23, 2015, 08:28:06 AM: I'm an old school Disney fan, but I like a lot of their more modern things as well.

One of my favorites is the under-appreciated The Sword in the Stone. The old Alice in Wonderland is also trippy as hell, and two tons of fun.

The Lion King is fantastic. We actually caught in 3D when that limited release happened (two years ago? Something like that.).
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Fiery Winds on March 23, 2015, 08:54:13 AM: Quote from: hefdaddy42 on March 23, 2015, 08:28:06 AM
The Lion King is fantastic. We actually caught in 3D when that limited release happened (two years ago? Something like that.).

I was really curious how 3D would translate in a 2D film but I was pleasantly surprised. Excellent movie and excellent soundtrack.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 23, 2015, 03:42:23 PM: Yes that 3D transfer for The Lion King was incredible. I took my little brother to it, who never saw the movie in theaters, and he said it was one of the best in-theater movie experiences he's ever had. The opening sequence with The Circle of Life is one of the greatest moments in cinema history, in my opinion. It's so majestic

The Little Mermaid was suppose to have a release as well, but Disney scrapped that release because the Beauty and Beast 3D didn't do well in the box office.

hef, I completely agree The Sword and The Stone is definitely underrated. That slew of 60's to 70's Disney animated features like The Jungle Book and Robin Hood were so good, and accompanied by amazing soundtracks. Robin Hood especially.

My top ten favorite Disney animated films are

1. The Lion King
2. Pinocchio
3. A Goofy Movie
4. Toy Story
5. The Great Mouse Detective
6. WALL-E
6. The Jungle Book
7. Robin Hood
8. Peter Pan
9. Up
10. Beauty and the Beast

My live action films are

1. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
2. Mary Poppins
3. Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
4. TRON: Legacy (Speaking of great soundtracks)
5. 20,00 Leagues Under The Sea
6. Remember The Titans
7. The Mighty Ducks
8. Angels In The Outfield
9. Cool Runnings
10. Homeward Bound
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on March 30, 2015, 06:11:40 PM: Looks like there's no end this live action adaptations trend. Disney just announced today they are developing a live action Mulan film.

https://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/30/disney-developing-live-action-mulan-film

Quote
Disney is set to make a live action film out of another animated classic, Mulan.

EW can confirm that Disney has ordered a script for a live-action take on the tale of Hua Mulan, the hero of Disney’s 1998 animated film. That version had Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Ming-Na Wen voicing the titular hero. The Hollywood Reporter first reported the news.

Disney has purchased a script from writing duo Elizabeth Martin and Lauren Hynek with Chris Bender and J.C. Spink attached to produce.

No release date or casting has been announced for the in-development project, but it can be added to the growing list of live-action takes on Disney’s vast catalog of beloved animated films. Cinderella recently debuted No. 1 at the box office and has so far earned over $330 million worldwide.

Disney also has a live-action Beauty and the Beast in the works, starring Emma Watson, coming in 2017, while another Alice in Wonderland is set for 2016. A new The Jungle Book is also planned for 2016, and a live-action Dumbo with Tim Burton directing is said to be in the works.

This one could be incredibly epic. I see some wuxia film inspired potential, with amazing cinematography to capture that breathtaking Chinese landscape. Get Yimou Zhang or Ang Lee on this project!
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on March 31, 2015, 07:57:38 AM: Yeah, if they take it seriously, it could be amazing.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on April 09, 2015, 10:54:27 PM: I just watched A Goofy Movie with my girl to celebrate it's 20th anniversary. Quite possible the most underrated film Disney has released. It's so good.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on April 09, 2015, 10:57:46 PM: I'm a big fan of Finding Nemo. I never get tired of watching it and actually just joined the Disney Movie Club and picked it up on Blu-ray.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Dark Castle on April 14, 2015, 01:14:30 AM: Quote from: Accelerando on April 09, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
I just watched A Goofy Movie with my girl to celebrate it's 20th anniversary. Quite possible the most underrated film Disney has released. It's so good.
This guy understands. I love that movie so much.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Mister Gold on April 14, 2015, 07:50:42 AM: Quote from: Dark Castle on April 14, 2015, 01:14:30 AM
Quote from: Accelerando on April 09, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
I just watched A Goofy Movie with my girl to celebrate it's 20th anniversary. Quite possible the most underrated film Disney has released. It's so good.
This guy understands. I love that movie so much.

It is a wonderful film. I'm not sure if it's quite as underrated as Notre Dame or The Black Cauldron are.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: MetalJunkie on May 04, 2015, 01:57:42 AM: Quote from: Accelerando on March 30, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Looks like there's no end this live action adaptations trend. Disney just announced today they are developing a live action Mulan film.

https://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/30/disney-developing-live-action-mulan-film

Quote
Disney is set to make a live action film out of another animated classic, Mulan.

EW can confirm that Disney has ordered a script for a live-action take on the tale of Hua Mulan, the hero of Disney’s 1998 animated film. That version had Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. star Ming-Na Wen voicing the titular hero. The Hollywood Reporter first reported the news.

Disney has purchased a script from writing duo Elizabeth Martin and Lauren Hynek with Chris Bender and J.C. Spink attached to produce.

No release date or casting has been announced for the in-development project, but it can be added to the growing list of live-action takes on Disney’s vast catalog of beloved animated films. Cinderella recently debuted No. 1 at the box office and has so far earned over $330 million worldwide.

Disney also has a live-action Beauty and the Beast in the works, starring Emma Watson, coming in 2017, while another Alice in Wonderland is set for 2016. A new The Jungle Book is also planned for 2016, and a live-action Dumbo with Tim Burton directing is said to be in the works.

This one could be incredibly epic. I see some wuxia film inspired potential, with amazing cinematography to capture that breathtaking Chinese landscape. Get Yimou Zhang or Ang Lee on this project!
I'm all kinds of down for a live-action Mulan. And they could still use Eddie Murphy!

Now a Tim Burton Dumbo? I'm not so sure about that.

(https://puu.sh/hARPA/e335fb48be.jpg)
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on May 04, 2015, 06:48:40 PM: :lol Is that a Mushu tat Dumbo is sporting?
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on June 21, 2015, 01:38:27 AM: I saw Inside Out tonight, and it's the first time i've been wowed by a Pixar movie since Toy Story 3! Pixar is back folks. This movie represents why Pixar has been one of the most acclaimed studios in the world. It's wildly imaginative, wondrous, and smart.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: The Trooper on June 21, 2015, 08:35:38 AM: Solid movie. I will be honest it blew me away. This may be a movie that gets a best picture nod
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 22, 2015, 05:02:07 AM: I don't know about Best Picture, but it was really, really good.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: adace on June 24, 2015, 01:14:34 AM: Inside Out blew me away too. One of the best, most creative movies they've done. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Mister Gold on June 25, 2015, 11:01:11 PM: Quote from: adace on June 24, 2015, 01:14:34 AM
Inside Out blew me away too. One of the best, most creative movies they've done. :hefdaddy

Completely agreed. I dare say that it's my new favorite from Pixar. Inside Out combines the sense of creativity and sense of adventure from Toy Story with the emotional complexity of the opening from Up! Right there with Mad Max: Fury Road as my favorite film of the year so far.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 26, 2015, 08:19:34 AM: Best part: Lewis Black as Anger.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Cable on June 26, 2015, 02:46:47 PM: Quote from: Mister Gold on June 25, 2015, 11:01:11 PM
Quote from: adace on June 24, 2015, 01:14:34 AM
Inside Out blew me away too. One of the best, most creative movies they've done. :hefdaddy

Completely agreed. I dare say that it's my new favorite from Pixar. Inside Out combines the sense of creativity and sense of adventure from Toy Story with the emotional complexity of the opening from Up! Right there with Mad Max: Fury Road as my favorite film of the year so far.

3rd'ed. :hefdaddy :tup

I remember seeing the trailer for Up, and I was like WTF until I saw it. Pete Docter, who also helmed this one (and I think Monster's Inc) seems to be extremely creative. These ideas are great, although this might have been inspired by Herman's Head. Never the less, I just feel his stuff is more creative than the other output from Pixar. Not that the other stuff is a slouch, but just that it's a next level above.

While I felt Brave was severely overlooked, Pixar was in a bit of a rut IMO since Toy Story 3. Enough so where Disney Animation's last few movies had eclipsed Pixar. I know they are both pretty interchangeable these days however. But Cars2 seemed to bomb critically at least, Brave didn't do well enough, and Monsters U was good, but not as much as the 1st one IMO.

But I am totally comfortable with saying InsideOut is easily the best Pixar movie since Toy Story 3. And actually, while it cannot touch my top two of WallE (fav movie ever) and Up, this one is right next to those two for me, if not in the same conversation.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 29, 2015, 09:08:00 AM: Just saw it last night. I don't normally go and see Disney/Pixar movies at the theater because (1) most of them are must-buy DVD/BR purchases anyway, and (2) seeing them in the theater doesn't add much to the experience, unlike a big screen action movie like the Marvel films. So I am usually content to save my money and just wait for the home release. But the reviews (combined with $5 movie night) got me out the door. Fantastic movie. I really enjoyed it, as did the wife and all the kids. Such a neat, creative idea, and [mostly] very well executed.

The only reason I say "mostly" is because I felt like they had a gaping lingering plot hole that they had no good idea how to resolve, and ended up resolving it in a really dumb way. Joy and Sadness are stuck outside of headquarters with no way back. "How do we get them back? Uh...remember the scene in one of the unmemorable Matrix sequels where Neo fights all the Agent Smith clones? That was cool. Let's do that with invisible boyfriend, combine it with the trampoline deux ex machina from The Emperor's New Groove, and have that translate into an against-all-odds perfect trajectory shot that you would only see in a Loony Toons cartoon. That should do it!" That could have been handled better. I'm not sure how. But they easily could have used some other device that seemed more plausible. In fact, what would have been both more plausible and more emotionally satisfying is if there was a situation where Sadness was in some sort of real danger (I mean, that's kinda what they were going for by having her float off on the cloud, but I didn't feel like it really came off the way they were intending it to), and Joy sacrifices herself to save Sadness and get her back to headquarters, except that Joy ends up making it too. Again, that's kind of what they were going for, but I felt like it just ultimately came out of nowhere, seemed rushed, and fell flat, and that they expected the audience to not really notice/mind because they rushed right into the emotional resolution of the film by having Sadness come into her own and "save" Riley. And they are partially correct. Ultimately, I didn't really overly mind that that part was dumb, because the payoff was still rewarding enough. But still, I've come to expect better from the Pixar writers. To me, this was the one flaw in an otherwise terrific movie.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: bosk1 on June 30, 2015, 12:15:20 PM: Also, coolness: https://www.slashfilm.com/inside-out-easter-eggs/
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 30, 2015, 02:23:26 PM: Yeah, I looked at that earlier today.

I love how they do that.

Marvel does the same thing with their movies/shows, as well.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on June 30, 2015, 03:22:33 PM: I should go to see this. Very interesting.

https://www.mos.org/node/13128536
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2015, 08:17:29 AM: :tup
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Dream Team on July 04, 2015, 06:30:50 AM: Saw Inside Out last night, great movie of course. The bias against animated films in Hollywood will never go away of course, but realistically half of Pixar's films could have been nominated for Best Picture. Finding Nemo for example is a perfect movie.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Cable on July 18, 2015, 04:46:27 AM: Quote from: Dream Team on July 04, 2015, 06:30:50 AM
Saw Inside Out last night, great movie of course. The bias against animated films in Hollywood will never go away of course, but realistically half of Pixar's films could have been nominated for Best Picture. Finding Nemo for example is a perfect movie.

I'm still one of those people that doesn't fully get Nemo. :'( I would take Cars1 in a second over Nemo, despite me disliking the cash cow that film has become. I feel the message/moral of the story is more powerful in Cars vs. Nemo. But that is the cool thing about Pixar. Most people's top 3-5 of their films is not super surprising. But you'll always see ones that you didn't expect up high (Bugs Life or something). Not saying Nemo is one of those though.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on July 19, 2015, 02:35:02 PM: Cars is a very good movie! I don't understand the backlash it gets from people. Talking cars isn't the most craziest thing Pixar has come up with lol. Cars 2 however..... :tdwn It's the only Pixar flick that I consider a bad movie. An incredible step down from the fantastic original film.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Kotowboy on July 19, 2015, 04:11:07 PM: My Pixar Top 3.

1. Finding Nemo
2. Toy Story
3. Up

I like Wall • E until he goes into space and then it loses my interest. Cars is boring and I thought The incredibles was a bit meh.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: ariich on August 11, 2015, 03:40:33 AM: Saw Inside Out at the weekend and thought it was absolutely wonderful. There were a few moments, particularly right at the end and in the credits, that absolutely cracked me up to the point where I was crying with laughter. But for the most part it was a nice story with some really gorgeous messages. Loved it.

My top 5 Pixar:

1. Up
2. Wall-E
3. Inside Out
4. The Incredibles
5. Toy Story 3
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Lucien on August 14, 2015, 05:12:49 PM: (https://i.imgur.com/b3DKTX2.png)
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Cable on August 14, 2015, 07:22:16 PM: ^

Coming soon?!? I thought it was like at least 4th in their pipe, so I was expecting like 2017 at the earliest.

Quote from: Accelerando on July 19, 2015, 02:35:02 PM
Cars is a very good movie! I don't understand the backlash it gets from people. Talking cars isn't the most craziest thing Pixar has come up with lol. Cars 2 however..... :tdwn It's the only Pixar flick that I consider a bad movie. An incredible step down from the fantastic original film.

Me neither. It has become one of their merchandise horses, so that is the only logical place it comes from. Like with what Frozen has become for mostly girls, Cars is for boys. I recall an article about how Pixars are one deviation away from reality, and somehow Cars was more than that. But it is also one deviation away from reality- talking cars as you say. The message of the interstates is totally valid, and besides WallE, the only Pixar film I can think of that takes on a big topic.

Quote from: ariich on August 11, 2015, 03:40:33 AM

My top 5 Pixar:

1. Up
2. Wall-E
3. Inside Out
4. The Incredibles
5. Toy Story 3

80% correct, and slotted almost perfectly. ;) Your 4 make up for one of them, and I honestly can only pick a top 4 really anyway.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: bosk1 on August 17, 2015, 09:38:35 AM: The Toy Story sequels were both great. But while the MI sequel was good and I was okay with the Cars sequel, I don't really feel that any of the other Pixar movies really needs or benefits from a sequel. ...except the Incredibles. To me, that has great potential.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Accelerando on August 17, 2015, 12:57:28 PM: Lots of cool things that came out of D23 this weekend.

- Walt Disney Animation Studios announced their 57th animated feature, Gigantic, which is their take on Jack and the Beanstalk story. This isn't their firs time adapting this classic tale. In Fun and Fancy Free, one of the package films was the classic MIckey and the Beanstalk. Nathan Greno who directed Tangled is helming this, and Robert Lopez and Kristen Anderson Lopez who wrote the music for Frozen will be on music duties....maybe their songs won't take you out the story this time?

- Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales revealed new cast and characters, including Javier Bardem as the villain Captain Salazar and our old friend Will Turner played by Orlando Bloom will be returning. Johnny Depp, who the day before was officially named a Disney Legend by their Hall of Fame program along with George Lucas and Danny Elfman, appeared on stage dressed as Jack Sparrow, and as you can probably imagine, everyone lost their shit. You can watch that here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OijlB9zMnz8

- Robert Redford, Bryce Dallas Howard and Karl Urban will be starring in the Pete's Dragon remake. Bryce Dallas Howard made an appearance to talk about the movie and her affinity for the original.

- Out of all the remakes Disney is doing, I am most looking forward to Joh Favreau's The Jungle Book, which will have Bill Murray as Baloo, Idris Elba as Shere Khan, Ben Kingsly as Bageera, Lupita Nyong'o as Raksha and muthafawkin Christopher Walken as King Louie. Favreau, Kingsly, Nyong'o, along with new face Neel Sethi as Mowgli went on stage. Favreau says he found a balance shows the majesty of Kipling and the iconic images of the Disney classic. He showed footage of the movie, which got a standing ovation.

- Moana brings back the directing team of John Musker and Ron Clements, who both directed The Little Mermaid and Aladdin. The Rock made an appearance at the panel to talk about his demigod character, Maui.

- The cast of A Goofy Movie had their own panel to commemorate the 20th Anniversary of the movie. It's certainly the most underrated Disney animated movie of all time, and to me, a top ten animated film from Disney. Tevin Campbell, who was Powerline in the movie, sang "Eye To Eye"
Title: Re: The Disney Thread
Post by: Lucien on August 17, 2015, 02:14:41 PM: I didn't know they were doing a Jungle Book remake. Live action. This could be amazing or a complete flop. Live action movies with talking animals haven't always done so well :lol However, I'm actually pretty excited for it.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v RIP Dean Jones
Post by: Accelerando on September 03, 2015, 04:52:40 AM: (https://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsJ/8905.gif)

Dean Jones passed away yesterday at age 84 due to complication to Parkinsons Disease.

He appeared in dozens and dozens of films in his Hollywood career that began in the 60's, including films like Clear and Present Danger and Beethoven. However, his career highlights were for his work for Disney. He really embraced the family friendly hallmark that he achieved as an actor. He is best known for his starring roles in The Love Bug movies, but some of my favorite Disney films that he was in also included Blackbeard's Ghost, That Darn Cat!, The Shaggy D.A., and The Ugly Dachshund.

My mom grew up watching his movies, and in turn, raised me with his flicks. When I think of classic Disney, Dean Jones is one of the first to pop into my head, along with Fess Parker and Annette Funicello. He was a true Disney Legend.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v R.I.P. Dean Jones
Post by: Kotowboy on September 03, 2015, 05:22:00 AM: RIP. The Love Bug is one of the funniest comedies ever made.

I grew up loving the Herbie films.

We don't mention the Lindsay Lohan "reboot".

Or as they call it in America - ReTrunk :neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v R.I.P. Dean Jones
Post by: Cable on November 27, 2015, 09:05:08 PM: The Good Dinosaur.

I am a Disney-Pixar nut (should be other way around, Pixar saved Disney), so of course I saw this. It has some legitimate criticism, and what I read makes sense. On the other hand, the movie kept me tense all the way. It had, to me, many tear jerking moments, almost to build to a final climax. I thought the movie was great, and I really enjoyed the constant pace. Not top tier Pixar, but right under it for me.

Anyone else see it? Thoughts?

MINOR SPOILERS

I felt the theme of the movie fits right at home with Finding Nemo, Brave, and the Lion King. I still don't understand the greatness of Nemo when it comes to pulling at the heart, which is something TGD and Brave due much better than FN and LK.

The other main downfall is the derivative nature of the movie. I don't really fault the movie however, as Disney himself made a career on using adapted stories.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Accelerando on March 03, 2016, 11:18:20 PM: I just came back from a screening of Zootopia, and it was absolutely fantastic. Incredibly original, smart, and visually stunning. There's a heavy message to this movie that I did not expect, and something I feel like is very, very valid to the here and now.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on March 04, 2016, 06:10:14 AM: Will be seeing it today or tomorrow as part of my brother's birthday weekend. He is also very excited. Can't wait, been waiting for this movie for more than a year :caffeine:
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: SebastianPratesi on March 04, 2016, 12:47:39 PM: What is it about? The only thing I know about it is that Jason Bateman was involved (because yesterday I watched a clip of him talking about the new 'Arrested Development', in an interview where he was promoting this 'Zootopia').

I figured, if Jason is involved, it might be good :P
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on March 05, 2016, 12:15:17 PM: :chill

This is for myself because I just saw Zootopia.

OH MY GOD HOLY SHIT THIS MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWES-

:chill

Be still, my heart. I can't handle myself right now. I was already really hyped, but this movie was better than I could have expected in every way. Currently, I like this movie better than The Force Awakens. Yeah. I'll need to see it a few more times. But I could not have been happier.

OH MY GOD THE CHARACTERS, CHARACTER DESIGN, DIALOGUE, VISUALS, EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

:chill

Getting high on chill pills, man.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on March 05, 2016, 12:15:53 PM: Quote from: Accelerando on March 03, 2016, 11:18:20 PM
I just came back from a screening of Zootopia, and it was absolutely fantastic. Incredibly original, smart, and visually stunning. There's a heavy message to this movie that I did not expect, and something I feel like is very, very valid to the here and now.

And yep, this is 100% accurate.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Accelerando on March 05, 2016, 03:14:54 PM: Quote from: SebastianPratesi on March 04, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
What is it about? The only thing I know about it is that Jason Bateman was involved (because yesterday I watched a clip of him talking about the new 'Arrested Development', in an interview where he was promoting this 'Zootopia').

I figured, if Jason is involved, it might be good :P

It's about a lot of things. Some would say it is about a cop who tries to prove she can be more than a meter maid and ends up on a case to find missing citizens of Zootopia while getting the help of a street smart Fox. Some would say it's about dealing with bias, discrimination, and sexism. It's an incredible film, and in the new Golden Age of Disney animation where we have great flicks like Tangled, Wreck It Ralph, and Big Hero 6 (.....and then there's Frozen...), Zootopia is The Lion King of them all.

Given the current political, social, and cultural environment that this film is being released in, it brings me hope that these topics will spur a positive conversation of change by those who are young and old in our own society.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Outcrier on March 06, 2016, 08:11:15 AM: Highly interested in this. Eager to see how it stacks up with last year's best (Inside Out).
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: kaos2900 on March 07, 2016, 06:42:53 AM: Is it really preachy? If it's anything like Happy Feet I won't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Cable on March 12, 2016, 03:54:25 PM: I guess I will be going to see it. Not that I was going to avoid, just seeing movies single is more of a chore for me for some reason. It looked hilarious in the trailer I saw, and the reviews here and Rotten are top notch.

I pretty much contend that Disney proper animated flicks are better than Pixar ones. Not that there is a need for a separation anymore.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v R.I.P. Dean Jones
Post by: kaos2900 on March 14, 2016, 06:58:02 AM: Quote from: CableX on November 27, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
The Good Dinosaur.

I am a Disney-Pixar nut (should be other way around, Pixar saved Disney), so of course I saw this. It has some legitimate criticism, and what I read makes sense. On the other hand, the movie kept me tense all the way. It had, to me, many tear jerking moments, almost to build to a final climax. I thought the movie was great, and I really enjoyed the constant pace. Not top tier Pixar, but right under it for me.

Anyone else see it? Thoughts?

MINOR SPOILERS

I felt the theme of the movie fits right at home with Finding Nemo, Brave, and the Lion King. I still don't understand the greatness of Nemo when it comes to pulling at the heart, which is something TGD and Brave due much better than FN and LK.

The other main downfall is the derivative nature of the movie. I don't really fault the movie however, as Disney himself made a career on using adapted stories.

We finally got around to watching this over the weekend. Good, not great pixar. The animation was AMAZING but the story wasn't fantastic.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on April 07, 2016, 10:28:04 PM: So I've seen Zootopia three times now. I really just can't get over what an amazing feat of filmmaking this movie is. And I still think it deserves a PG-13 rating instead of PG. If those wounds bled just a bit more, maybe...
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Accelerando on April 07, 2016, 11:42:13 PM: Zootopia without question is the best film in this resurgence of Disney Animation that was started with Tangled. There really hasn't been a bad animated Disney film from WDAS since. Even Frozen, which I despise because of it's undeserved phenomenon, is a good movie.

I'd rank them as follows

1. Zootopia
2. Wreck It Ralph
3. Tangled
4. Big Hero 6
5. Frozen
6. Winnie The Pooh
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Logain Ablar on April 08, 2016, 02:30:14 AM: Watched it last weekend (it's called Zootropolis here) with the kids, and came away really impressed. The animation was fantastic, but the story was really engaging as well. I thought the whole detective "who done it" story line was great, and really refreshing.

It definitely clicked for me more than Wreck It Ralph or Big Hero 6. The visuals in both of those were undeniably good, but there was just some missing ingredient to those movies that stopped them short of being great.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on April 08, 2016, 03:11:10 AM: Both of those movies, while being fantastic as well, had a sort of lack of seriousness to a great portion of their screen time. Zootopia, while very funny often, felt REAL, as if we were actually living in a world where humans never happened and animals just evolved to become like humans.

SPOILERS

Moments like Bogo's "Let it go" scene, the encounter with Gideon, and the encounter with Manchas, Cliffside, and the press conference scene really solidified the seriousness of the film, and those are all some of my favorite moments. Not to mention the finale with "breaking baa-d" and "fear ALWAYS works", my God.

And these characters are all so fantastically intelligent it's hard not to love them. Especially with Judy's "It's called a hustle" scene with its reprise in the "Probable cause" scene, plus all the "A-hah!" moments Judy and Nick have together, plus basically every time Nick talks.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Logain Ablar on April 08, 2016, 04:36:37 AM: Quote from: Lucien on April 08, 2016, 03:11:10 AM
Both of those movies, while being fantastic as well, had a sort of lack of seriousness to a great portion of their screen time. Zootopia, while very funny often, felt REAL, as if we were actually living in a world where humans never happened and animals just evolved to become like humans.

SPOILERS

Moments like Bogo's "Let it go" scene, the encounter with Gideon, and the encounter with Manchas, Cliffside, and the press conference scene really solidified the seriousness of the film, and those are all some of my favorite moments. Not to mention the finale with "breaking baa-d" and "fear ALWAYS works", my God.

And these characters are all so fantastically intelligent it's hard not to love them. Especially with Judy's "It's called a hustle" scene with its reprise in the "Probable cause" scene, plus all the "A-hah!" moments Judy and Nick have together, plus basically every time Nick talks.

Yes - I think the fact that the characters were so well fleshed out and identifiable meant that you didn't notice (and it didn't really matter) that they were animals. I think that's one of the things that makes the Toy Story series so great - the characters are all grounded in human emotions and motivations. The fact that they are toys is secondary. I see John Lasseter was an executive producer on this one, so I think you can see some of his influence.

Oh and Jason Bateman was the perfect choice for Nick.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: bosk1 on April 08, 2016, 08:04:56 AM: Quote from: Accelerando on April 07, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
Zootopia without question is the best film in this resurgence of Disney Animation that was started with Tangled. There really hasn't been a bad animated Disney film from WDAS since.

Wow, that is high praise indeed. What is it about it in particular that makes it so good? (I haven't seen it yet, so I'm curious)
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on April 08, 2016, 02:20:39 PM: Quote from: bosk1 on April 08, 2016, 08:04:56 AM
Quote from: Accelerando on April 07, 2016, 11:42:13 PM
Zootopia without question is the best film in this resurgence of Disney Animation that was started with Tangled. There really hasn't been a bad animated Disney film from WDAS since.

Wow, that is high praise indeed. What is it about it in particular that makes it so good? (I haven't seen it yet, so I'm curious)

It's just so brilliantly written and fleshed out. And also darker and edgier than most Disney films of this age, but still accessible to kids (even if they might get startled/scared a couple of times). It also has this underlying social commentary which is handled absolutely fantastically, with a message very relevant today.

Everyone ought to see this film. This isn't a "kids movie" as so many detractors of Disney like to say. It is really a movie for all ages; EVERYONE can appreciate this film, and we are. Hard.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Lucien on April 10, 2016, 06:00:49 AM: Aaaand I saw it a fourth time. This one had to do with the music. All the themes that are connected... "hustler", "dreamer", "not a real cop" "investigate", and "revelation", all these little themes that appear several times throughout the movie really make you appreciate the movie more.

Still JUST as amazing as it was upon the first viewing.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Dream Team on April 23, 2016, 07:27:10 PM: Saw it today. What an amazing world they created. There are countless stories that could be told in Zootopia.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v ZOOTOPIA
Post by: Accelerando on May 23, 2016, 01:36:05 PM: The teaser trailer for Beauty and the Beast has been released

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c38r-SAnTWM

It doesn't reveal much, as a teaser should, but anyone who grew up with this movie will get chills from the musical crescendo in the beginning of the trailer, which was a nice touch. If I am correct, we will be getting a straightforward remake, with all your favorite songs plus a few from the Broadway show that wasn't in the movie.

I wasn't a fan of Alice in Wonderland or Maleficent, but Disney has been knocking these remakes out of the park with Cinderella and the recently released The Jungle Book. I am looking forward to Beauty and the Beast....although I still say Anna Kendrick should have been casted as Belle
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Accelerando on May 31, 2016, 05:43:58 PM: The Mary Poppins SEQUEL, "Mary Poppins Returns", will be released December 2018, starring Emily Blunt as Mary and Lin-Manuel Miranda as a new character named Jack, with Rob Marshall (Chicago, Into The Woods) directing.

The only thing that gives me pause, because I think Emily Blunt is perfect casting and I like Rob Marshall....is Lin-Manuel. I'm open to the hip-hop musicals that he's done like "Hamilton" and "In The Heights", but I wonder if it's aesthetically doable for Mary Poppins.

I also wonder if the last living Sherman Brother will contribute anything with the music.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Accelerando on June 01, 2016, 09:04:33 PM: And just like the first live action Alice In Wonderland, Alice Through The Looking Glass is a big stinking pile of turd. Glad I saw this on a free movie ticket.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Accelerando on June 19, 2016, 01:25:44 PM: Finding Dory was wonderful! Pixar has done it again
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Kotowboy on June 19, 2016, 02:41:37 PM: Quote from: Accelerando on June 01, 2016, 09:04:33 PM
And just like the first live action Alice In Wonderland, Alice Through The Looking Glass is a big stinking pile of turd. Glad I saw this on a free movie ticket.

It's flop #34 for Johnny Depp !!!!
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Accelerando on November 25, 2016, 10:28:36 PM: Just came back from Moana, and it's one of the best pictures from the Walt Disney Animation Studios in this new renaissance era
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Polarbear on November 26, 2016, 01:30:50 AM: I need to see Zootopia and Moana. I've heard great things about both!

Apparently, they have fantastic soundtracks as well.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Lucien on November 26, 2016, 11:07:41 AM: Quote from: Polarbear on November 26, 2016, 01:30:50 AM
I need to see Zootopia and Moana. I've heard great things about both!

Apparently, they have fantastic soundtracks as well.

Can't speak for the Moana soundtrack because I haven't seen the movie, but the Zootopia soundtrack is to die for.
Title: Re: The Disney Thread v Live Action Remakes
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2016, 01:05:33 PM: My mom took my nieces and she said Moana is really good.