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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: Kotowboy on March 02, 2015, 04:59:09 PM
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I feel like I might have done this topic before but hey ho !
Seeing as how each album is 8 tracks and is sorta sequenced the same - more or less. It might be fun to compare them track by track.
I've bolded which track I prefer.
1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 ( or as a whole against Octavarium if you wish )
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
+ Octavarium Vs In The Presence Of Enemies.
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SC across the board except PA > R. Tie between 8V and ITPOE.
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TROAE and ITPOE PT. 1 are sort of tied, but otherwise, every song on Octavarium is better than those on SC.
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TROAE and ITPOE PT. 1 are sort of tied, but otherwise, ever song on Octavarium is better than those on SC.
We disagree on everything.
but not today.
not today :hug:
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Ew, cooties.
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Ew, cooties.
:emo:
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This is an..."interesting" way of comparing the albums. But I'll bite.
1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 (Tough call. This is really close. But ITPOE gets the nod by a hair)
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken (Not close at all. One of my least favorite songs against one of my favorite.)
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion (Fairly close, but not as close as the first one. And Constant Motion just slays.)
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night (Not close. I like IWBY, but TDEN is a lot more fun.)
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance (Not close. Panic attack is a favorite. Repentance as a great idea that just doesn't work as well as it should.)
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War (Not close. I like Never Enough well enough, but Prophets of War is one of the few DT songs that I actively dislike.)
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls (And TMOLS is not far behind Prophets.)
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2 (Not close. ITPOE2 is good. But Octavarium is my #3 DT song.)
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So Bosky - you're 50% split ! Interesting ! I've always seen SC as a kind of darker counterpart to Octavarium's lighter upbeat atmosphere.
The album sequencing is almost the same...
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They are both albums that have some of my most favorite and least favorite DT songs on them. But if I could take the 8 that I chose from this and put them on one album, it just might be close to being my favorite DT album of all time.
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Prefer 8V #6 in my ranking, SC is least :P
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I think Systematic Chaos gets more crap than it should, and I find myself listening to it far more often that 8va. In your format, song for song, I pick SC every time. The only close call is Panic Attack - Repentance.
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The Root of All Evil > In the Presence of Enemies Part 1
The Answer Lies Within < Forsaken
These Walls < Constant Motion
I Walk Beside You > The Dark Eternal Night
Panic Attack > Repentance
Never Enough > Prophets of War
Sacrificed Sons < The Ministry of Lost Souls
Octavarium > In the Presence of Enemies Part 2
Octavarium > In the Presence of Enemies
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They are both albums that have some of my most favorite and least favorite DT songs on them. But if I could take the 8 that I chose from this and put them on one album, it just might be close to being my favorite DT album of all time.
If you axed TDEN through PoW and put 8V (the song) in their place, SC'd be my favorite (track order aside, because having 8V in the middle of SC would be odd).
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My #1 album vs my #12 (soon to be #13) album.
No contest. 8V wins on every song with the possible exception of IWBY vs TDEN. I'd give the nod to TDEN...but only just barely. If it were the live version of IWBY from Score, then it would go the other way. It was amazing how much the crowd got behind that song...totally brought it to a whole new level.
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It's interesting for me; the first DT album I bought (8vm) vs the first one I anticipated as a fan (though I was actually introduced to them with LSFNY).
With Octavarium, there was still that excitement of having been introduced to an amazing band who I hadn't heard anything like before, whereas with SC there was the excitement of brand new material from a band I'd been listening to a lot.
Comparing both, while I enjoyed the heck out of both, I liked Octavarium more. I still have memories of my friends and I listening to it constantly in the summer of 2005. Looking back on both, Octavarium has also aged a lot better for me. I still like SC, but I love Octavarium.
Track by track like in the OP, Octavarium also comes out ahead.
Root of All Evil > ITPOE pt1
Answer Lies Within > Forsaken
These Walls = Constant Motion (maybe a slight edge to These Walls)
I Walk Beside You > Dark Eternal Night
Panic Attack > Repentance
Never Enough = Prophets of War
Sacrificed Sons < The Ministry of Lost Souls
Octavarium >>> ITPOE pt2 (Nothing against ITPOE, but I friggin love Octavarium).
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 - TROAE, but both are very cool.
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken - Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion - These Walls, but I love both.
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night - TDEN RAWKS
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance - Panic Attack
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War - PoW
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls - SS
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2 - Octavarium
That's 5/8 in favour of Octavarium. :lol NUGGET!
I rank Octavarium a bit higher than SC, so it doesn't surprise me it came out on top, but both are underrated albums.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
Strange comparisons, from this point of view I'm kinda surprised I ended up being 50/50.
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Octavarium all the way, except #2, #6 and maybe #1. Both albums are at the very bottom of my ranking, though.
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Seems interesting, I guess, but I shall refrain. I don't like either album all that much.
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The only thing that MIGHT crack my top 10 on SC is ITPOE part 1. On the other hand... the title track on 8VM is my #1 song. For me, there's no comparison unless I take both epics out of the picture. After that, it becomes more even.
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I'd say Systematic Chaos is my favorite of the two, although Octavarium is only a tiny bit below.
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The Root of All Evil < In the Presence of Enemies Part 1
The Answer Lies Within > Forsaken
These Walls > Constant Motion
I Walk Beside You < The Dark Eternal Night
Panic Attack < Repentance
Never Enough < Prophets of War
Sacrificed Sons < The Ministry of Lost Souls
Octavarium > In the Presence of Enemies Part 2
The toughest choice was between ITPOE Part 2 and Octavarium. 8V has two of my least favorite DT songs, Panic Attack and Never Enough. It also has one of my favorites, Octavarium. I would definitely choose 8V over ITPOE as a whole. However, it looks like I favor more songs from SC.
I think my biggest gripes are:
Constant Motion sounds too much like Metallica
Never Enough sounds too much like Muse, and the lyrics are just poor.
The beginning of Sacrificed Sons takes too long.
Forsaken is too poppy.
Highlights:
Repentance has one of JP's best solos.
8V is a masterpiece
ITPOE Part 2 :metal
The solo in TMOLS is one of my favorites.
That being said, I think 8V gets the slight edge over SC.
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Super bored, sick at home so I'll bite.
The Root of All Evil > In the Presence of Enemies Part 1
The Answer Lies Within > Forsaken
These Walls > Constant Motion
I Walk Beside You < The Dark Eternal Night
Panic Attack > Repentance
Never Enough > Prophets of War
Sacrificed Sons > The Ministry of Lost Souls
Octavarium > In the Presence of Enemies Part 2
Yeah. BCSL sucks imo. 8vm is near my favorite. TDEN is fun though, so it edges out IWBY.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2
No contest imo.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 ( or as a whole against Octavarium if you wish )
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
Octavarium slightly ahead of In The Presence Of Enemies overall too.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 ( or as a whole against Octavarium if you wish )
Easily, TRoAE is in my top 5.
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
Pretty easy too, I like TALW and Forsaken is meh.
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
I like both but These Walls is way better.
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
TDEN is in my bottom 5 so YEAH.
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
Both very good songs though.
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
Muse-off, lol. NE by a huge margin though.
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
Again both good.
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
Easy cheesy.
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Seems interesting, I guess, but I shall refrain. I don't like either album all that much.
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1. The Root of All Evil vs. In the Presence of Enemies Part I
Both great openers, but the latter edges it out for me just a bit.
2. The Answer Lies Within vs. Forsaken
Not particularly close, this one. TALW is alright but I don't care for it an awful lot, and while Forsaken is no gem, it's a little more on the memorable side.
3. These Walls vs. Constant Motion
Constant Motion is killer, but there's a nice charm to These Walls that I've grown to appreciate more as of late.
4. I Walk Beside You vs. The Dark Eternal Night
Bar the somewhat silly, over the top moments on TDEN, it's a pretty rad song. I never cared for IWBY that much at all.
5. Panic Attack vs. Repentance
Honestly, both share the same issue with going on longer than they probably should, but PA's got more memorable moments dotted throughout, though I don't mind Repentance either.
6. Never Enough vs. Prophets of War
Yeah, yeah, not the most original opinion here, but POW is definitely a bottom DT song for me, while NE I like decently enough.
7. Sacrificed Sons vs. The Ministry of Lost Souls
SS is the worst offender on either of these albums when it comes to songs going on for too long. It just meanders around without accomplishing much, aside from the nice riff here and there. TMOLS has the rather out-of-place instrumental section in there holding it back, but it's got some really soulful melodies and instrumentation as well.
8. Octavarium vs. In the Presence of Enemies Part II
No contest. 8V is a top 3 DT song, and while ITPOE is great, it doesn't hold a candle to it.
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I don't even have to think about it. Every song on Octavarium destroys every song on SC.
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1. Root Of All Evil < The Presence Of Enemies (whole)
2. The Answer Lies Within > Forsaken
3. These Walls = Constant Motion (push)
4. I Walk Beside You > The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack > Repentance
6. Never Enough < Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons > The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium < In The Presence Of Enemies (whole)
This actually turned out as I expected. Although it may only be one song more for 8V, many of the choices were close where SC won. If I had to separate ITPOE, both would tie or lose to their respective rivals. But some, like PA v. Repentance, and SS v. TMOLS, it is WAY in the 8V direction (still some cool parts).
Disclosure, SC is my least favorite DT album.
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SC has 7 songs and 8VM has 8 songs. Track by track is not really a fair comparison.
Here's how they stack up in my album ranking.
8. 8VM
9. SC
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ITPOE Pt. 1 > TROAE (Very close though)
Forsaken > TALW (Not close)
CM < TW (Also not close)
TDEN < IWBY (IWBY is fine for what it is)
Reptentance > PA (More substance)
POW > NE (POW has the cool disco section)
TMOLS > SS (TMOLS is very underrated)
ITPOE Pt 2. < 8vm (I mean, come on)
SC - 5
8vm - 3
The issue in really comparing the albums is how good 8vm's title track is. Overall, SC is the better album, but 8vm (the song) might be better than everything on SC combined.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 ( or as a whole against Octavarium if you wish )
This was quite hard, but I find myself listening to TROAE more.
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
Yeah, TALW isn't quite a good song for me. Forsaken is miles ahead.
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
CM is actually a good song, but it lacks the power and passion These Walls has.
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
IWBY isn't the zenith of Dream Theater's songwriting talent but it sure is a far better listen than Grotesque Creatures Battle.
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
Not a single shade of doubt on this one. Panic is my Second favorite song in this album, after Octavarium.
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
I'll call it a draw. Both songs are completely indifferent to me. If I totally had to choose one I'd choose Prophets of War. At least the beginning of the song is nice.
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
Ministry is my favorite song off SC. I like it far more than Sacrificed Sons, which I barely listen to anymore.
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
Because of course it would.
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Where is the poll for this?
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This is definitely interesting, I kind of like track by track comparisons like this.
1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 (by far)
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance (by far)
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2. (by far)
I actually prefer Octavarium as an album, both aren't too high on any list for me though.
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I would be curious to know why you chose those two particular albums to go up against each other.
On some of these songs it's hard to choose, either because it's between two songs I really like, or don't like much at all.
1) Root vs. Presence 1: While Root is one of my all-time favorites, I also love Presence overall. But I guess I have to give it up to Root here, because Presence 1 isn't complete without Presence 2
2) Answer vs. Forsaken: I think the SCORE version of Answer is vastly superior to this one, and I always liked Forsaken in either form, so it's Forsaken
3) Walls vs. Constant: I think Walls is one of DT's better underrated/overlooked songs, but Constant ROCKS! It's Constant by a hair.
4) Walk vs. Dark: This one is too easy. I never liked Walk, and Dark is the first song I ever head from Systematic. I was sold immediately.
5) Panic vs. Repentance: I seem to be one of the few people who actually LIKES Repentance. Panic, on the other hand is somewhat over-rated. I LIKE Panic, but I like Repentance MORE.
6) Never vs. Prophets: I'm tempted to say "who gives a crap" about this one! I never liked Enough, and Prophets is also pretty weak. But my main complaint about prophets is the lyrics. Also the title is very misleading. Not what I first thought the song was going to be about at all. Still I kind of like the little "disco" thing they did at the beginning, (They've experimented with just about every OTHER kind of music, so why NOT?) and that vocal thing that Portnoy did at the end reminds of that goofy "I'm Too Sexy" song, so I kind of give Prophets my vote here.
7) Sacrificed vs. Ministry: Another No-brainer>I never liked Ministry, (as I've said a thousand times: too depressing) and while Prophets is a BAD example of James's lyrics, this song makes me want to thank him personally as an American for showing so much concern over what happened in and to my country.
8) Octavarium vs. Presence 2: While I agree with many of you that Octavarium is a great piece of music, Presence (1&2 together) has more of a narrative, or cohesive storyline. If I hadn't read somewhere that Octavarium is based on the movies "Awakenings" I doubt if I would have ever known. Presence, on the other hand, is good old-fashioned story about the conflict between good and evil. No explanation necessary. Besides, I don't hear as much of Petrucci on Octavarium. So it's Presence, but not by too wide of a margin.
They're both great albums with a lot of great music on them, but I think have to go with Systematic. But again, not by TOO wide of a margin.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 - Jeez... I'd say a tie.
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken - The lyrics are amazing, and the orchestra sounds amazing.
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion - Because Portnoy and the chorus.
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night - A nightmare vs. A sunlight. TDEN wins because complexity and strenght
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance - This was easy. I like the concept of Repenteance but PA is one of my all time DT faves.
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War - I like the Queenish things. BTW, I've just realized the 3 final songs on both albums are SO. INCREDIBLY. SIMILAR :omg:
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls - I don't want to burst my brain, it's a tie.
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2. - 8V all the way!
+ Octavarium Vs In The Presence Of Enemies.
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I would be curious to know why you chose those two particular albums to go up against each other.
• They were released back to back.
• They both feature 8 tracks
• They have very similar sequencing ( if you count ITPOE as two tracks ) - even down to the two longest tracks at the end.
• I've always considered Systematic Chaos to be Octavarium's evil twin.
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"Evil twin..."
That's FUNNY!
But in what WAY???
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The track sequencing on these albums is very similar in several big ways.
- They both start with a high octane rock track that is divided into two parts and lasts 8-9 minutes.
- They both end with the two longest tracks on the album, with the longest of the last. The penultimate track on both follows a soft-heavy-somewhat soft structure, and the last track generally builds up from a soft opening to a climax, that closes the album.
- The third-to-last track on both is an unusual track for DT, both having what has been described as a Muse influence. Honestly, Never Enough and Prophets of War are rather similar songs.
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"Evil twin..."
That's FUNNY!
But in what WAY???
I've said it before but i'll repeat it. Octavarium sounds like it was recorded outside in a big open space. It has a big wide production.
Systematic Chaos sounds like it was recorded in a box. It's quite stuffy and in your face sounding.
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Tangential : I'd love to know what it would sound like recording an album *outside* with zero reflections at all.
Maybe like in a huge field - just set everything up - one person in each corner - record everything and listen back.
The wind would probably blow the sound all over the place and you could get something quite unique sounding.
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I feel like I might have done this topic before but hey ho !
Seeing as how each album is 8 tracks and is sorta sequenced the same - more or less. It might be fun to compare them track by track.
I've bolded which track I prefer.
1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1 ( or as a whole against Octavarium if you wish )
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2.
+ Octavarium Vs In The Presence Of Enemies.
Using this style of comparison, the only Systematic Chaos songs that would win for me are Repentance
and Prophets Of War.
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2
I prefer Systematic Chaos as an album.
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8V :8
SC:0
:P
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1. Root Of All Evil VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 1(RoAE - One of my favorite "rocker" tracks. I Like ITPOE, though)
2. The Answer Lies Within VS Forsaken ( Forsaken - I know it's kind of cheesy, but I really like the chorus)
3. These Walls VS Constant Motion (These Walls - Cool comparison - these walls is one of the simpler DT songs. Constant Motion is one of the busiest. In this case simple wins)
4. I Walk Beside You VS The Dark Eternal Night (Also seem to be polar opposites. Ask me 5 years ago, it's IWBY, but today I like TDEK, even with the cheesy verse vocals better)
5. Panic Attack VS Repentance (PA - just a fun song. I used to love playing it in Rock Band. I like the concept of Repentance, but I really don't like the whole middle section)
6. Never Enough VS . Prophets Of War (PoW because of the gang vocals. If you read the liner notes close enough, you'll see these songs were actually both written and performed by Muse Theater)
7. Sacrificed Sons VS The Ministry Of Lost Souls (SS - it just works better for me )
8. Octavarium VS In The Presence Of Enemies Part 2 (8VM. I think both represent their albums really well. IPOE2 perfectly captures the darker,horror movie inspired thread throughout the album)
5/3 8VM.
Not surprising. I like 8VM a lot more (though SC has grown on me a bit over the years)
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I love both albums. Octavarium was a great soundtrack to 2005, and alot of my friends caught on to DT while listening to that partying in my garage. I havent accomplished that with any other DT album since. Funny thing too, my friends both guys and gals loved singing along to NEVER ENOUGH, while buzzed and having a great time. They loved playing air-keyboards to that part after "what would you say" daa daa dah..lol. Thats why I can't figure why so many on this forum dont like that song, it freakin rocks as far as I'm concerned. Opening riff is bad-ass, great solos catcy verses and chorus. The meaning to the song can apply to so many situations in life.... Systematic Chaos is darker but insane musicianship!! Iwas going through a darker time in my life too so it was kind of fitting. Gotta love Dark eternal Night, a song about a monster that wreaks havoc with killer heavy jams. That is soo metal!!!!
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Since I don't really listen to ITPOE in parts, this is kinda tricky, but just for you Kotowboy, I'll bite. :heart
TROAE vs. ITPOE 1
TALW vs. Forsaken
TW vs. CM
IWBY vs. TDEN
PA vs. Repentance
NE vs. PoW
SS vs. TMOLS [tie]
8V vs. ITPOE 2
Bonus: 8V vs. ITPOE
I don't like Octavarium.
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I love both albums. Octavarium was a great soundtrack to 2005, and alot of my friends caught on to DT while listening to that partying in my garage. I havent accomplished that with any other DT album since. Funny thing too, my friends both guys and gals loved singing along to NEVER ENOUGH, while buzzed and having a great time. They loved playing air-keyboards to that part after "what would you say" daa daa dah..lol. Thats why I can't figure why so many on this forum dont like that song, it freakin rocks as far as I'm concerned. Opening riff is bad-ass, great solos catcy verses and chorus. The meaning to the song can apply to so many situations in life.... Systematic Chaos is darker but insane musicianship!! Iwas going through a darker time in my life too so it was kind of fitting. Gotta love Dark eternal Night, a song about a monster that wreaks havoc with killer heavy jams. That is soo metal!!!!
I love Never Enough. I always thought the lyrics were great and different. Looking back on them now that Portnoy is gone, they're even better. People complain about the Muse influence but I like Muse and think they did a good job on it. The song has a great atmosphere and flows very nicely. The guitar solo after the guitar/keyboard harmony run is underrated and not JP's usual style. James sounds great on this track and this song has one of their best choruses. Never Enough is definitely in my top 50 (as is the rest of the album except for TALW and IWBY).
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I did this in the other thread, let's do it here
TROAE wins all 8 matches vs. SC. (8-0)
TALW vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (6-2)
These Walls vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (6-2)
I Walk Beside You vs. SC:
ItPoE Pt. 1, Forsaken, Constant Motion, Repentance, TMOLS, ItPoE Pt. 2 win (2-6)
Panic Attack vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (6-2)
Never Enough vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (6-2)
Sacrificed Sons vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (6-2)
Octavarium vs. SC:
Repentance, TMOLS win (the latter juuuust barely...) (6-2)
8vm wins 46-18
yup still a landslide victory
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With these two albums I feel that almost all the songs are equal to each other with a few exception of a few
The Root of All Evil > In the Presence of Enemies Part 1 (but only if it is the first part...as a whole I would say they are equal)
The Answer Lies Within < Forsaken
These Walls = Constant Motion
I Walk Beside You < The Dark Eternal Night
Panic Attack = Repentance
Never Enough = Prophets of War
Sacrificed Sons = The Ministry of Lost Souls
Octavarium < In the Presence of Enemies Part 2
8V would be equal to ITPOE if it weren't for the clunker Full Circle