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Title: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Moor on January 27, 2015, 02:36:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fpDys79VP0

Not bad ! Maybe he is trying to say to JP watch out I can drive this band without you  :biggrin: :lol
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on January 27, 2015, 05:32:07 AM
"Um, Yeah.....if the drummer could play with a little more feel than trying to murder the drums that'd be great"

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Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 27, 2015, 05:43:53 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Sycsa on January 27, 2015, 06:59:56 AM
Loved it, great keyboard sounds and cool performance. As far as the drums go, I really dug his energy, I don't think there's much room for nuanced playing in a driving song like this. The drum solo was disappointing though, I saw many YouTube covers do it more justice on smaller kits.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 27, 2015, 07:52:07 AM
Great performance, and I had no problem at all with the drumming, but it just highlighted how unremarkable I find that song to be.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: rumborak on January 27, 2015, 08:04:16 AM
Bummer you could only hear one keyboard really.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Sycsa on January 27, 2015, 07:53:11 PM
Why do they isolate the drummer in a transparent cage like that? So that they control the mix more and the acoustic sound doesn't bleed in everywhere, or is there something else?
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Anguyen92 on January 27, 2015, 11:46:58 PM
Pretty much, they do it to make sure the drum sound doesn't bleed everywhere.  If you see how close everyone is, it all makes sense.

I've seen videos of Alter Bridge use something similar to that cage during their ABIII tour when they were playing the smaller venues in the states and the outdoor festivals.  I don't think they used it for the bigger music halls/arenas in Europe or at all during their latest tour after making certain adjustments.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Zydar on January 28, 2015, 12:09:50 AM
Yeah I wouldn't wanna sit that close to a drum set without the cage, my hearing would be shot right away.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 28, 2015, 12:14:11 AM
Does the cage make it worse for the drummer by reflecting back the drum noise, or does it just deaden it?
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: SuperTaco on January 28, 2015, 08:23:30 AM
Neat arrangement :) I was kind of impressed at how well they mimic'd the guitars with those keyboards. Good job to everyone.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Mastervai on January 28, 2015, 08:58:35 AM
"The enigma machine" ha ha  :D ;)
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Calvin6s on January 28, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
Wow.  It sounds even more like an Inspector Gadget theme without a real guitar and Mangini's groove.  That synth patch for the first few seconds of the song is so promising.  It had the potential to be the best song on the album.  Cool setup for NAMM.

Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Kotowboy on January 28, 2015, 10:25:42 AM
 :rollin: you wouldn't need the shields for bleed since everything else besides the kit is a direct signal.

Maybe it's for the players comfort.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Sycsa on January 29, 2015, 02:25:36 AM
:rollin: you wouldn't need the shields for bleed since everything else besides the kit is a direct signal.
You missed your mark with that comment, nobody said anything that. Only that the acoustic sound coming off the stage would bleed into the amplified drum sound and overall mix, thus the need for a cage. Of course it's a direct signal, there are 3 keyboards on stage and no guitars.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: rumborak on January 29, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
This is at NAMM, right? I'm pretty sure they have requirements on how much they're allowed to blast past their own booth.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 29, 2015, 05:50:01 PM
That keyboardist looks familiar
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2015, 06:00:11 PM
It's Jordan Rudess. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Sycsa on January 30, 2015, 03:43:49 AM
And the other one is Eren Basbug, the conductor on BTFW, among many other DT related endeavours.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Prog Snob on January 30, 2015, 04:06:15 AM
That was pretty damn awesome.  Enigma Machine wasn't one of my favorite songs at first but it definitely grew on me.
Title: Re: JORDAN RUDESS' OrKeystra Performs DREAM THEATER "Enigma Machine" NAMM 2015
Post by: Mastervai on January 30, 2015, 07:59:03 AM
Does anyone notice the fact that he calls it "the enigma" machine and not "enigma machine". i remember that being a discussion on this board sone time ago.