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Title: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2014, 08:05:29 AM
So I've thought about this a few times over the years. A band I really admire from afar is Pearl Jam. I got their first album when it came out, but found that I just could not make it through the whole thing. I guess ultimately they're just not my cup of tea.
But like Dream Theater, they seem to have really given their fans a lot to chew on, goodies, rotating setlists, etc..I remember a few years ago they played here in Mansfield and played their entire catalog over three nights. That kind of thing is awesome.

Anyway, I heard Evenflow on the radio this morning, and finally decided to start a thread that I had been thinking about.

So, anyone have bands that they are not into, yet still respect?
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Elite on December 18, 2014, 08:08:25 AM
The Rolling Stones are the first that come to mind for me.

I'll think about it.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Sacul on December 18, 2014, 08:11:32 AM
I'd like to say Tool, but... Probably Metallica and Black Sabbath.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on December 18, 2014, 08:15:00 AM
@ TAC

https://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20131023-pearl-jam-the-new-grateful-dead
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2014, 08:19:46 AM
Thanks Fluff, that's a great article  and "dead" on. ;D

And frankly, for all of MP's quirks, he truly understood the relationship with the fans, He looked at his band through the eyes of a fan. Ytsejam records, rotating setlists, GDT. It all lasts to an investing experience. And no, this is not a thread for MP debate.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on December 18, 2014, 08:24:55 AM
Yeah, I hardly care for Pearl Jam much after their first few albums, but I can see how someone could find them a brilliant band.

For me, the first names to come to mind are Zappa, Bowie and Queen.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 18, 2014, 08:33:24 AM
Not sure if this counts, but I think Adele is an extremely talented singer, even though I'm not a fan of a lot of her stuff.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2014, 08:43:13 AM
Of course it counts, Ninja.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: TioJorge on December 18, 2014, 09:34:15 AM
Foo Fighters immediately came to mind when I read the title, instantly. I don't dislike their music, it just isn't my style and I can never get into it when I hear it, but a lot of my friends are into it and they're clearly a talented, popular band the world over. I just find their music to be a bit boring, for lack of a better word; it just doesn't hit me or rope me in. Not my style, is all; but definitely still respect their work and they're great at what they do.

Others...I'm not sure, that's really one of the only bands where I really don't dislike the music, it's just kinda like I know it's not for me and that's that; other bands I genuinely don't like the music or it puts me off in some way. Even with hugely popular bands like AC/DC just annoy the hell out of me and I genuinely don't understand how they're so massively (or were) popular. I'm sure I'll think of others. Interesting thread.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: mikemangioy on December 18, 2014, 09:36:38 AM
Black Sabbath, Pearl Jam, Genesis are the first ones that come to mind.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Cool Chris on December 18, 2014, 09:40:14 AM
I really wish I liked Frank Zappa's music, because he seems like he was a real stand-up guy who did what he believed in, both within music and in his personal life. But God I think his music is terrible.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on December 18, 2014, 10:43:03 AM
Prince.  I can put together a greatest hits and like listening to it but full albums of his I can't listen to it.  The man is uber talented and writes catchy tunes but full albums are out for me.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: PixelDream on December 18, 2014, 10:45:48 AM
The Rolling Stones also instantly popped up in my mind. It's hard to imagine the world without them, that's why I respect them. I just don't care for their music. Like, not at all. Okay, I like 'Paint it Black' quite a bit.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Podaar on December 18, 2014, 11:22:27 AM
Jeff Beck.

I admire his importance to guitar playing and rock in general...and the skill with which he does the near impossible. I just don't care for the sound...or, his musical aesthetic.

Super cool dude though!
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: emtee on December 18, 2014, 11:39:38 AM
I realize I'm out of line with 99.5% of society on this one but the Beatles. Huge Respect and admiration but they just never
clicked. McCartney's solo work on the other hand moves me. Go figure...
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on December 18, 2014, 11:57:22 AM
Radiohead
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 18, 2014, 12:02:09 PM
Not a band, but honestly, if you ask me this question, a year ago, I would have said Justin Timberlake.  Since then, I guess I can say I'm more of a fan of his now.  Nowadays, I say Taylor Swift.  I heard her music at my house, from time to time, since my older sister has been playing her new album a good amount and, honestly, it's not that bad from what I've heard.  It sounds very listenable compared to her contemporaries.

As for bands, hmmm, I guess Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Nirvana.  Some of the songs, I hear, are good enough, but I just do not have as much personal enjoyment with those guys (I still appreciate what they contribute) as I do with Foo Fighters or Soundgarden.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Podaar on December 18, 2014, 12:05:41 PM
Radiohead

Oh, and this too.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: TioJorge on December 18, 2014, 12:08:41 PM
Man, years ago I could have so completely related to the Radiohead one; but one day, and it really seemed overnight, I just randomly heard a song of theirs and somehow loved the shit out of the rest (I don't even remember which song spurred it on, I'm pretty sure it was something from Hail/Thief). Either something clicked or something broke.  :rollin Now they're one of my favorites. I'm wondering if that'll happen to anyone else for any bands, like myself and Foo Fighters. Taste buds change over time, why not musical buds?  :P
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Anguyen92 on December 18, 2014, 12:12:49 PM
Man, years ago I could have so completely related to the Radiohead one; but one day, and it really seemed overnight, I just randomly heard a song of theirs and somehow loved the shit out of the rest (I don't even remember which song spurred it on, I'm pretty sure it was something from Hail/Thief). Either something clicked or something broke.  :rollin Now they're one of my favorites. I'm wondering if that'll happen to anyone else for any bands, like myself and Foo Fighters. Taste buds change over time, why not musical buds? :P

For me, that's Switchfoot.  I asked a few people from another forum on what album should I listened to of theirs, the people said The Beautiful Letdown album.  Got some good songs and all.  Heard their latest, Fading West.  Had a bit of a poppier direction, but still had some decent songs, but nothing to really get personally into at first. 

All of a sudden, I watched a live stream of theirs, last month, and suddenly, I'm just listening and enjoying a lot of Switchfoot, especially the song Where I Belong.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on December 18, 2014, 02:44:55 PM
I'm really tempted to say Radiohead, but that's probably just my knee-jerk reaction every time someone calls them "the best band ever". :lol

I think most popular grunge acts such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden fall into that list for me. Alice in Chains I actually enjoy quite a bit however.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Jaq on December 18, 2014, 03:20:19 PM
Add the Stones for me. I respect them, I understand their importance, I don't enjoy their music in the least.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: jjrock88 on December 18, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
I would say Queen

Very casual fan, but respect their work.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 19, 2014, 01:43:59 AM
I would say Queen
Ditto.

To some degree The Beatles. I like Revolver and sort of like Abbey Road, but the rest isn't my thing.

Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Polarbear on December 19, 2014, 02:15:55 AM
Animals as Leaders
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Moor on December 19, 2014, 02:27:57 AM
Iron Maiden
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: sneakyblueberry on December 19, 2014, 05:31:57 AM
I would say Queen
Ditto.

To some degree The Beatles. I like Revolver and sort of like Abbey Road, but the rest isn't my thing.



Double ditto, except for the Beatles.  If you had asked me a year ago about the Beatles I would've had the same sort of response as LieLow, but I've basically forced myself to listen to their catalogue for the last 3-4 months and I honestly think there isn't a band in history that can match what they managed to achieve.

Also this thread makes me a little sad :lol
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: puppyonacid on December 19, 2014, 07:36:44 AM
I would say Queen
Ditto.

To some degree The Beatles. I like Revolver and sort of like Abbey Road, but the rest isn't my thing.



Double ditto, except for the Beatles.  If you had asked me a year ago about the Beatles I would've had the same sort of response as LieLow, but I've basically forced myself to listen to their catalogue for the last 3-4 months and I honestly think there isn't a band in history that can match what they managed to achieve.

Also this thread makes me a little sad :lol

....other than Queen  :P

As far as the OP I''d say Led Zep. Just cannot listen to their stuff. I get that they were highly influential and respect what they did - but it just never clicked.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Zantera on December 19, 2014, 07:37:58 AM
I have some weird feelings when it comes to The Beatles, because even though they aren't among the top of my favorite bands/artists or anything, I would consider them maybe the most likable band ever. I can understand if people aren't big fans of them, but I'm honestly baffled when people express hatred or a strong dislike for them. Even if the music isn't your cup of tea, they just have a certain charm to them. Albums like Abbey Road or Sgt Pepper are in my opinion impossible not to like. And again, I don't have either of those albums at the very top of my favorites, and Beatles as a whole would probably not make my top50 favorite artists/bands, but they're just so darn likable. Their music is often pretty positive and fun and very easy to listen to.

I don't know, maybe it's more impressive that they wrote this amazing and accessible "pop"-music 40 years ago, and a lot of the modern mainstream artists doesn't come close in writing as good music.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: puppyonacid on December 19, 2014, 07:53:36 AM
I love the Beatles. Abbey Road is one of my all time favey albums by anyone.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on December 19, 2014, 10:34:10 AM
I'm about the most lukewarm Beatles fan in existence. There are a handful of good to great songs on each album. The rest are average to shite.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: rumborak on December 19, 2014, 10:43:06 AM
Iron Maiden
Prince
Rolling Stones
Bob Dylan
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on December 19, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Albums like Abbey Road or Sgt Pepper are in my opinion impossible not to like.
I'd say I don't like that one. A Day in the Life is definitely one of their best songs, but until that comes up almost every song just breezes by without me finding anything to enjoy.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: rumborak on December 19, 2014, 02:31:09 PM
Had the Beatles mostly done stuff like their more adventurous songs, I would probably enjoy them more. But, the Obla Di's, Paperback Writers and All You Need Is Love's kill it for me. Like, they're well executed and stuff, but it's still 60s boy band material. Might as well listen to Katy Perry.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: sneakyblueberry on December 19, 2014, 03:01:09 PM
Yeah, but even the simple stuff is still pretty great, musically.  All You Need is Love is an incredibly clever pop song.  The verses are basically count like a bar of 7/4, two bars of 4/4 and a bar of 7/4.  Not to mention the way they'll pop in a random tag of like a bar of 2/4 at the end of a section just for shits and gigs.  I imagine Katy Perry would probably have an aneurysm trying to figure out little quirks like that.

I guess it is 60s boy band material but its really only because they were so instrumental in defining it.  And I'd take it over modern boy band music any day.

I would say Queen
Ditto.

To some degree The Beatles. I like Revolver and sort of like Abbey Road, but the rest isn't my thing.



Double ditto, except for the Beatles.  If you had asked me a year ago about the Beatles I would've had the same sort of response as LieLow, but I've basically forced myself to listen to their catalogue for the last 3-4 months and I honestly think there isn't a band in history that can match what they managed to achieve.

Also this thread makes me a little sad :lol

....other than Queen  :P

As far as the OP I''d say Led Zep. Just cannot listen to their stuff. I get that they were highly influential and respect what they did - but it just never clicked.

Oh, you.  I dunno what it is with Queen.  Its just something about their vibe that I kinda just can't stand but can't quite put me finger on.  Its weird because I know they have some great music. 
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: chaossystem on December 19, 2014, 03:37:25 PM
I used to be a huge Yes fan, but I thought their 1999 album "The Ladder" was just plain awful!
They REALLY "jumped the shark" with that one!
And I even stayed with them after "Open Your Eyes," which a lot of other people hated!

But I still reespect their talent and their musicianship, but I haqven't been able to get back into them, because in addition to that horrible album, I'm getting sick of how much worse the "musical chairs" game is getting regarding the instability of their line-up. They should take a lesson from Iron Maiden, and find a way to make it work!
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Outcrier on December 19, 2014, 03:41:25 PM
Had the Beatles mostly done stuff like their more adventurous songs, I would probably enjoy them more. But, the Obla Di's, Paperback Writers and All You Need Is Love's kill it for me. Like, they're well executed and stuff, but it's still 60s boy band material. Might as well listen to Katy Perry.

Like Hef would say: "This post is wrong on so many levels".
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 19, 2014, 03:42:26 PM
Hey, Katy Perry has some good songs.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: sneakyblueberry on December 19, 2014, 03:51:05 PM
Hey, Katy Perry has some good songs.

The only time I enjoy a Katy Perry song is when the video comes on TV and I can watch it on mute.  :hat
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Outcrier on December 19, 2014, 03:57:17 PM
Well, it's not only about her but, let me explain:

"Had the Beatles mostly done stuff like their more adventurous songs, I would probably enjoy them more."

Beatles wrote simple songs that are great as their adventurous ones. I get that it's subjective and all but i don't think complexity makes songs better than others.

"But, the Obla Di's, Paperback Writers and All You Need Is Love's kill it for me."

What is Paperback Writer or even All You Need Is Love doing there?

"Like, they're well executed and stuff, but it's still 60s boy band material. Might as well listen to Katy Perry."

60s boy/girl bands still produced legendary songs, something i can't say for modern equivalents.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: chaossystem on December 19, 2014, 04:02:07 PM
Hey, Katy Perry has some good songs.

THIS post is wrong on so many levels!!!
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on December 19, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
Nah. I mean, I'm not a huge fan or anything, but credit where credit is due and all that. I get that some people don't care for her music, though, and that's cool.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: chaossystem on December 19, 2014, 04:17:27 PM
As for the Beatles:

I have a tremendous amount of respect for them as pioneers and innovators.

They were a HUGE influence on pretty much everyone who came after them, as well as a lot of their peers.

Sure they may be largely responsible for a lot of the "boy bands," but there are a lot of prog and metal bands and musicians that cite them as an influence in addition to a lot of pop and "modern rock' bands.

And as they went along, they matured and progressed as musicians and song-writers/lyricists as well.

But I DO agree that they weren't (at least not always) the BEST band in the world, either.

To me, "Magical Mystery Tour" (the song, not the album) and the interminable ending to "Hey Jude," as well as pretty much all of "Let it Be" are completely unlistenable.

So over all I think we just have to allow everyone to have their own opinion about these kinds of things. It's an argument that will never be settled.

Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: chaossystem on December 19, 2014, 04:20:09 PM
Nah. I mean, I'm not a huge fan or anything, but credit where credit is due and all that. I get that some people don't care for her music, though, and that's cool.

I was just kidding.

She gets on my nerves, but to each their own.

Not everybody likes all of the same music.

For example: I like AC/DC, but a lot of people on this forum HATE them.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: ? on December 20, 2014, 01:46:32 AM
The Beatles
Radiohead
Meshuggah
some underground rappers
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Calvin6s on December 20, 2014, 02:07:05 AM
I really wish I liked Frank Zappa's music
Me too.  I can kinda dig Hot Rats, but I don't have an urge for it.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: KevShmev on December 20, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Captain Geech and the Shrimp Shack Shooters.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Counselor of Prog on January 25, 2015, 01:15:31 PM
Man, years ago I could have so completely related to the Radiohead one; but one day, and it really seemed overnight, I just randomly heard a song of theirs and somehow loved the shit out of the rest (I don't even remember which song spurred it on, I'm pretty sure it was something from Hail/Thief). Either something clicked or something broke.  :rollin Now they're one of my favorites. I'm wondering if that'll happen to anyone else for any bands, like myself and Foo Fighters. Taste buds change over time, why not musical buds? :P

For me, that's Switchfoot.  I asked a few people from another forum on what album should I listened to of theirs, the people said The Beautiful Letdown album.  Got some good songs and all.  Heard their latest, Fading West.  Had a bit of a poppier direction, but still had some decent songs, but nothing to really get personally into at first. 

All of a sudden, I watched a live stream of theirs, last month, and suddenly, I'm just listening and enjoying a lot of Switchfoot, especially the song Where I Belong.

Great band and sound.  :tup
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: LCArenas on January 25, 2015, 06:09:48 PM
Rush. I listen to them and they're good, just not a band I would listen to regularly. Maybe it's because Geddy Lee's voice isn't much my cup of tea.

Please don't kill me, DTF.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: PowerSlave on January 25, 2015, 08:37:21 PM
Queen is one of those bands for me. There are times that I think that they're absolutely brilliant, but I don't usually feel inclined to listen to them. I have been listening to Queen II a lot lately, however. I'm hoping that it eventually leads me into appreciating them more.

Tool. Once again, I think that they're brilliant, but I have a hard time listening to them.

I'm a big fan of the PG era of Genesis, and the first few albums with Phil singing. I also like certain albums from Yes in the late 60's and throughout the 70's. But I just can't listen to other prog bands from that era. King Crimson and ELP are chock full of great musicians, but nothing that they do interests me at all. I have a great amount of respect for their talent, though.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Mosh on January 25, 2015, 09:42:25 PM
The Who. I don't get much enjoyment out of listening to their music but I understand the appeal as well as the impact they had on rock music.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 25, 2015, 11:56:59 PM
Rush. I listen to them and they're good, just not a band I would listen to regularly.

This, and

Queen is one of those bands for me. There are times that I think that they're absolutely brilliant, but I don't usually feel inclined to listen to them.

This. 

Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: ErHaO on January 26, 2015, 03:42:37 AM
Most of Rush (especially the 80's), Genesis and King Krimson.

Everything by Radiohead and Haken.

Edit: I should note that I am a huge fan of a select few Rush albums, namely 2112, A Farewell to Kings and Hemishperes and that I love Clockwork Angels.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Prog Snob on January 26, 2015, 03:51:17 AM
Captain Geech and the Shrimp Shack Shooters.

 :lol
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 26, 2015, 05:25:52 PM
King Crimson
The Doors
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: KevShmev on January 26, 2015, 05:27:43 PM
Captain Geech and the Shrimp Shack Shooters.

 :lol

I was hoping at least one person would get that. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on January 27, 2015, 07:27:56 AM
King Crimson

What have you heard?

The thing with King Crimson is, at any point in their career, you move forward a few albums and you're listening to an entirely different band.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 27, 2015, 09:27:15 AM
David Bowie.

I admire and respect David Bowie beyond words, but I just can not get into 95% of his music. Its something I can't explain, but that's just the way it is I guess.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 27, 2015, 12:01:05 PM
King Crimson

What have you heard?

The thing with King Crimson is, at any point in their career, you move forward a few albums and you're listening to an entirely different band.

I've heard In The Court, Lark's Tongues and Discipline.....wasn't a big fan of any of them.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Lucien on January 28, 2015, 12:29:52 AM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 28, 2015, 05:41:48 AM
I guess AC/DC for sticking to the same formula for so long and still being mega-successful .

Although I'm not a fan.

The same with Springsteen. I can't say i'm a "fan" but I like a few songs here and there.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 28, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI
Dat top comment.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: sneakyblueberry on January 28, 2015, 02:07:21 PM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg

I remember a mate of mine getting into Zappa and talking to me about the 12-note composition thing, and I think I remember him composing one for an assignment.  I dunno, its clever and all but I have a hard time calling it 'music'.  I must say though, the way it forces you to focus on the rhythm of the composition can have it's perks, like when Frank Zappa uses atonal composition to basically make awesome 'accompanied drum solos' like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haZ4xRwkRVQ
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2015, 02:48:55 PM
The Grateful Dead.  I admire everything about their passion, longevity, their creative process but I'm just not into their music.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on January 28, 2015, 02:58:46 PM
Oh, big one for me: The Beach Boys. I love their influence and creativity, and a song or two sticks with me, but overall I get bored by them. Which is funny because Animal Collective is almost their modern equivalent and they're my second favourite band.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
Oh, big one for me: The Beach Boys. I love their influence and creativity, and a song or two sticks with me, but overall I get bored by them. Which is funny because Animal Collective is almost their modern equivalent and they're my second favourite band.

You hear them quite a bit in Steven Wilson as well.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 28, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
Rush. I listen to them and they're good, just not a band I would listen to regularly. Maybe it's because Geddy Lee's voice isn't much my cup of tea.

Please don't kill me, DTF.

:dunno: I think they flat out suck.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2015, 03:13:01 PM
Rush. I listen to them and they're good, just not a band I would listen to regularly. Maybe it's because Geddy Lee's voice isn't much my cup of tea.

Please don't kill me, DTF.

:dunno: I think they flat out suck.

I think you flat out got hit in the noggin' at some point. :lol
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 28, 2015, 07:17:33 PM
Possibly. But Rush are still poor.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on January 28, 2015, 07:21:39 PM
You are in the minority good sir
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Scorpion on January 29, 2015, 03:22:06 AM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg

I'm not sure I agree that music it at its evolutionary end with Schoenberg. And while I do agree with you about not being particularly fond of Schoenberg, I think that's more of a Schoenberg thing than an atonal music thing, because there is atonal music out there that is extremely amazing.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 29, 2015, 05:30:43 AM
You are in the minority good sir

Well that's what this thread is for................
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: King Postwhore on January 29, 2015, 06:06:14 AM
You are in the minority good sir

Well that's what this thread is for................

Except you still respect them not say this,

Rush. I listen to them and they're good, just not a band I would listen to regularly. Maybe it's because Geddy Lee's voice isn't much my cup of tea.

Please don't kill me, DTF.

:dunno: I think they flat out suck.

I'm not sure if you understand...............
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Sacul on January 29, 2015, 06:14:17 AM
Tool. I love how other band use their signature sound, but can't get into them. Although it's hardcore fanbase is cancerous.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 29, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
Honestly the hardcore fanbase for almost anything tends to be pretty obnoxious.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Sacul on January 29, 2015, 12:50:00 PM
Yeah good point.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: ? on January 29, 2015, 01:05:11 PM
I like Tool, but I'm rarely in the mood for their music. On the other hand, I usually love Tool-influenced songs by other bands :P
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Mosh on January 29, 2015, 05:06:02 PM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg

I'm not sure I agree that music it at its evolutionary end with Schoenberg. And while I do agree with you about not being particularly fond of Schoenberg, I think that's more of a Schoenberg thing than an atonal music thing, because there is atonal music out there that is extremely amazing.
I agree. Frank Zappa is a great example o f atonality made accessible. As long as listeners can grasp onto the rhythm of it, atonal music doesn't have to be quite as difficult.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on January 29, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Frank Zappa.

Way too weird for me at times.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Accelerando on January 29, 2015, 05:33:16 PM
For me, it would be Elvis Presley. He's got some catchy tunes I'll enjoy, but otherwise I'm not crazy over him. He's a legend in his own right.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 29, 2015, 06:03:53 PM
Bob Dylan I guess.  I definitely respect him, but...  just not that into him.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Sacul on January 30, 2015, 02:00:55 PM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw)

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg)

I'm not sure I agree that music it at its evolutionary end with Schoenberg. And while I do agree with you about not being particularly fond of Schoenberg, I think that's more of a Schoenberg thing than an atonal music thing, because there is atonal music out there that is extremely amazing.
I agree. Frank Zappa is a great example o f atonality made accessible. As long as listeners can grasp onto the rhythm of it, atonal music doesn't have to be quite as difficult.
Ulver is another example.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 30, 2015, 06:22:41 PM
Tool. I love how other band use their signature sound, but can't get into them. Although it's hardcore fanbase is cancerous.

I'd like to know what their hardcore fanbase thinks of them taking 9 years and counting to release an album they've apparently been working on the entire time.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 30, 2015, 06:32:28 PM
Tool. I love how other band use their signature sound, but can't get into them. Although it's hardcore fanbase is cancerous.

I'd like to know what their hardcore fanbase thinks of them taking 9 years and counting to release an album they've apparently been working on the entire time.

It sucks.....a lot!
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 30, 2015, 06:35:38 PM
For me it's  :lol watching Metallica and Tool give the crappiest excuses for taking over 7 years to release an album.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on January 30, 2015, 06:51:53 PM
Yeah, Metallica is my favorite band and I'm pissed with their decision-making lately. How many countless tours of Europe and Mexico (but not USA, their own country) can they possibly do, playing the same songs over and over? Somebody needs to lock them in a studio and not let them out until the new album is done.

End rant.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Mosh on January 30, 2015, 10:37:19 PM
Arnold Schoenberg. He basically ripped music apart to where it could no longer be ripped. He broke ALL the rules. I hate how his music sounds, and it is EXTREMELY hard to digest (most of it, at least), but he basically pioneered what is called "atonal" music, a type of music that has no tonal center, and the only scale one can know is the 12-note chromatic scale, starting on any note. We're so used to tonality, it is virtually impossible to "get" his music. And honestly, I think it's dumb. But it's the end of music's evolution. It can't go any further once all the rules are broken.

Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrjg3jzP2uI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJSvA8oP7rw)

and a great lecture about him and atonality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwVvbWd-tg)

I'm not sure I agree that music it at its evolutionary end with Schoenberg. And while I do agree with you about not being particularly fond of Schoenberg, I think that's more of a Schoenberg thing than an atonal music thing, because there is atonal music out there that is extremely amazing.
I agree. Frank Zappa is a great example o f atonality made accessible. As long as listeners can grasp onto the rhythm of it, atonal music doesn't have to be quite as difficult.
Ulver is another example.
Don't think I've heard Ulver, if it's in that same vein though I'm definitely interested!
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 30, 2015, 10:57:28 PM
I wouldn't have ever considered Ulver atonal.

They are very experimental though, and definitely amazing.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Kotowboy on January 31, 2015, 05:20:00 AM
Tool. I love how other band use their signature sound, but can't get into them. Although it's hardcore fanbase is cancerous.

I'd like to know what their hardcore fanbase thinks of them taking 9 years and counting to release an album they've apparently been working on the entire time.

It sucks.....a lot!

I'm actually convinced that back in 2006 - One of TOOL went " Huh huh - 10,000 days...wouldn't it be funny if we actually took 10 years to release the next album ! "

And then another went " Yeah hehehe - we could constantly say that we're in the studio and have songs finished but then never have anything to show for it "

" Haha ! What if we say we had a court case because we were suing the people who tried to sue us from suing someone else - even though we hired them to stop ourselves getting sued in the first place !!!"

All Of Tool : TOOL HIGH FIVE !!





Maynard : I drink wine in 5/8
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 31, 2015, 08:15:02 AM
Metallica are most likely at a point where they simply aren't as creative as far as producing new music as they used to be.  And the money is in touring, anyway, so fuck it, keep playing live, as long as people keep buying tickets.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Sacul on January 31, 2015, 02:31:51 PM
I wouldn't have ever considered Ulver atonal.

They are very experimental though, and definitely amazing.
I was thinking of War of the Roses, and even Shadows of the Sun at times, but yeah, maybe they weren't the best example. They're still amazing though.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on February 05, 2015, 06:36:37 PM
Dream Theatre.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 02, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
The Doors

Not really all that into their music, but I'm just fascinated by Morrison with all the madness and antics.
Title: Re: Bands you are not personally into but still respect
Post by: masterthes on March 03, 2015, 12:15:56 PM
Hendrix

Took me a while to get into Dylan, but now I like him