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Title: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 26, 2014, 10:07:37 AM
I'll make a list in a bit, but one of their best heavy moments has to be the harsh verse's of Scarred. I'm listening to it now, and it always blows me away. Both lyrically and melodically... this is just intense. And Labrie's vocals, don't even get me started on how brutal he sounds.

"Can't let them rape me again... your venom's not family here."
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Evermind on October 26, 2014, 01:54:13 PM
ROAR

I think The Mirror is one of their best heavy songs. That's the first that comes to mind.

edit: but yeah, this section on Scarred is amazing too.  :tup
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 26, 2014, 02:09:24 PM
ROAR

What if "Whomp Whomp" and "ROAR" had a child?


=


ROAMP ROAMP
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: YtseJamittaja on October 26, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
12SS has the best heavy moments of DT.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Sycsa on October 26, 2014, 03:00:50 PM
12SS has the best heavy moments of DT.
Yeah. Also, "Don't bother trying to find him, he will be coming to you" part of ITPOE. "Thought disorder, dream control..." part of Voices. Chugga chugga chugga chugga...
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Newmz on October 26, 2014, 04:13:55 PM
when the heavy riff comes in for Bridges in the Sky....  :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: The Holy Tune on October 26, 2014, 05:48:14 PM
Awake, Train of Thought and SC have lotsa heavy moments, but I really wanna go with JLMB and BMS.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: commanderbob on October 26, 2014, 05:56:22 PM
Right after "Don't cross the crooked step"
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Dream Team on October 26, 2014, 06:06:41 PM
Outro riff of The Mirror.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Raise the Drum on October 26, 2014, 06:21:04 PM
The Dark Eternal Night is a heavy monster from beginning to end.
Intro - verses - intrumental part - ending riff, everything.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: ZKX-2099 on October 26, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
That grinding riff right before the solo in The Dark Eternal Night.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: WDADU on October 26, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
- That riff in "Illumination Theory". You know which one I'm talking about.
- "A Fortune in Lies" has some great chugging that's really good to bang your head to.
- "The Mirror" alone is heavy as hell.
- The riff after 'Don't cross the crooked step' in "Honor thy Father".
- "Peruvian Skies" gets nice and heavy later on.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: BlobVanDam on October 26, 2014, 07:40:34 PM
First one that comes to mind is TGP. :metal Just all of it.
Most of Train of Thought is great for heavy moments, including As I Am's, Honor Thy Father (don't cross the crooked step), and ITNOG's riffing. ANTR also deserves a mention.

But the heaviest of them all? Gotta go with TDEN. :metal :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: TheCountOfNYC on October 26, 2014, 07:51:40 PM
All of Panic Attack.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Sourcegamer101 on October 26, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
The part in the middle section of The Glass Prison that uses turntable sounds. Additionally, the same part in This Dying Soul.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 26, 2014, 08:39:19 PM
- That riff in "Illumination Theory". You know which one I'm talking about.

Oh yeah :metal

Also, the underlying riff during the ending of Misunderstood
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: LTE3 on October 26, 2014, 11:46:20 PM
The Glass Prison, may be their heaviest tune I think. Also Dark Eternal Night, the ending is nice and sludgy. Lie, and the under rated and over looked awesome Honor Thy Father. :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: lumpy33 on October 26, 2014, 11:47:11 PM
pull me under. 

and endless sacriice - the riff 8 minutes in is epic
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: wolfking on October 27, 2014, 05:51:22 AM
The breakdown riff in TGP/TDS.  Or even TDEN outro.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: PixelDream on October 27, 2014, 06:05:57 AM
All the heavy stuff on Awake is as heavy as they've ever gotten I think. This has to to with a combination of things:

1. The grooves are badass.
2. The guitars are downtuned, yet clear.
3. JLB's vocals are badass.
4. The production is crystal clear, dynamic and therefore heavy.

SDOIT has this thing going on to a lesser extent. TOT is pretty heavy, but it has muddy production.

Awake has it all. It is ultra heavy.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: mikeyd23 on October 27, 2014, 07:25:08 AM
The breakdown riff in TGP/TDS.  Or even TDEN outro.

Yep. Those were the two that came to my mind!
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on October 27, 2014, 09:51:39 AM
In terms of a moment that's great because of its heaviness, I have to go with Peruvian Skies, when the main riff first appears in its heavy form (after the guitar solo).
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 27, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
The Glass Prison is, in my eyes, the culmination of DT's heavy side.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: As I Am on October 27, 2014, 10:40:58 AM
I always go back to In The Name of God as their "heaviest" song (and one of their all time greatest!)
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: fischermasamune on October 27, 2014, 01:35:12 PM
Raw Dog, TDEN, TEI, TGP, The Mirror, As I Am, Honor Thy Father.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: MiracleSleeper on October 27, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
All the heavy stuff on Awake is as heavy as they've ever gotten I think. This has to to with a combination of things:

1. The grooves are badass.
2. The guitars are downtuned, yet clear.
3. JLB's vocals are badass.
4. The production is crystal clear, dynamic and therefore heavy.

SDOIT has this thing going on to a lesser extent. TOT is pretty heavy, but it has muddy production.

Awake has it all. It is ultra heavy.
Awake contains Labrie's best display of aggressive style vocals. He literally sounds like some kind of demonic force of nature some times on that album. (which is a good thing)
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: adamack on October 28, 2014, 01:16:14 PM
My kinda thread! Some of these aren't the absolute hardest, but still hard in their own right.

My favs include these parts:

Scarred: https://youtu.be/G6SjyRLKy70?t=2m28s

The Mirror: DAT Simple Riff: https://youtu.be/P-k2JSZd_Qw?t=2m20s

The Glass Prison: DESE Riffs: https://youtu.be/gwDgX7Un3AQ?t=1m55s  and https://youtu.be/gwDgX7Un3AQ?t=2m13s

The Test That Stumped Them All: https://youtu.be/h3JO8awhZnA?t=36s (For some reason, I feel like this riff is DT's heaviest moment. Heavy in an energetic sense, not really a dark sense. Either this, or The Glass Prison.)

Learning To Live: https://youtu.be/GjXe9Jd209Y?t=3m10s

A Change Of Seasons: https://youtu.be/mZKrwJzGg0k?t=1m40s

Sacrificed Sons: https://youtu.be/3nBpLzNwkZw?t=7m18s

Bridges In The Sky: https://youtu.be/S1fNCc_whtU?t=1m49s

Honor Thy Father: https://youtu.be/KGHXy9Fa45k?t=9m24s

In The Name Of God: https://youtu.be/ruxeHJEdh20?t=10m7s (Specifically here when it comes back in after the unison solo)

On The Backs Of Angels: https://youtu.be/oasnbzEMV08?t=1m55s

Peruvian Skies: https://youtu.be/dr0ebtzSeWM?t=4m19s (Love all 3 back to back riffs)

Pull Me Under: https://youtu.be/SGRgAULYgWE?t=1m16s

These Walls: https://youtu.be/MzovR0s7EbI?t=6m27s

The Great Debate: https://youtu.be/4z6vpiXQJNA?t=2m43s

The Root Of All Evil: https://youtu.be/RgAc7ekYmVA?t=7m19s
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: adamack on October 28, 2014, 01:31:22 PM
Also Dark Eternal Night, the ending is nice and sludgy.

I remember JP and MP specifically mentioning that ending riff of TDEN on the Systematic Chaos documentary as being the "heaviest riff in DT history."

In case you haven't seen: https://youtu.be/rpMn6gP69eM?t=42m7s

I'm still confused about it :( It's definitely heavy, but I can't believe they think it's heavier than The Glass Prison or The Test That Stumped Them All. Or even The Mirror or Scarred riffs.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: TheGreatPretender on October 28, 2014, 01:33:32 PM
ROAR

What if "Whomp Whomp" and "ROAR" had a child?


=


ROAMP ROAMP

That would be quite the Romp!
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Nearmyth on October 28, 2014, 01:46:16 PM
Hate to go cliche, but honestly The Glass Prison is the quintessential heavy DT masterpiece.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Rodni Demental on October 28, 2014, 03:24:48 PM
Well most of the ones I can think of have been mentioned.

A Rite of Passage anyone? The verses and the bridge/solo section.

Light Fuse can feel kinda heavy with it's verse riff but the tone doesn't really punch through as much.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on October 28, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
A Rite of Passage anyone? The verses and the bridge/solo section.

The bridge and solo? I don't know. I guess they're heavy, but they don't really seem to go anywhere and just amble about. Nothing really interesting about them. AROP's high point for me is the chorus, but that doesn't really qualify as heavy so... :lol
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Sycsa on October 28, 2014, 08:16:13 PM
My kinda thread! Some of these aren't the absolute hardest, but still hard in their own right.

My favs include these parts:

-SNIP-
Nice one!
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: erwinrafael on October 29, 2014, 12:47:49 AM
It's hard to top The Mirror.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: hayasaki on October 29, 2014, 04:17:45 AM
The Dark Eternal Night
The ending riff is just  :metal  That riff just never get's boring.

A Nightmare to Remember
The intro riff is, IMHO, the heaviest riff ever.

Honor Thy Father
Probably the heaviest song over-all.

Bridges In The Sky
The heavy riff is great, love playing that :D

And of course The Mirror Intro  :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Chino on October 29, 2014, 07:07:17 AM
Another Day
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: adamack on October 29, 2014, 10:33:01 AM
Another Day

How could I forget that one?

My kinda thread! Some of these aren't the absolute hardest, but still hard in their own right.

My favs include these parts:

-SNIP-
Nice one!

 :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Randaran on October 29, 2014, 10:43:57 AM
Some of my favorites:

When the distorted guitars enter in PMU
LTL, the second verse
The Mirror, especially the outro
PS's second half
BtL, right before the instrumental section. This may not be all that heavy, but it is one of their most aggressive riffs.
TGP in its entirety, along with the rest of the 12SS
All of Train of Thought
TDEN, probably my favorite heavy song of theirs
BITS, the moment the guitars enter is one of my favorite DT moments
BTV, I love this one. One of their best concise songs
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Podaar on October 29, 2014, 03:05:47 PM
For me, it's The Test That Stumped Them All. Timestamp :35...dat riff.   :metal :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: adamack on October 29, 2014, 04:57:22 PM
For me, it's The Test That Stumped Them All. Timestamp :35...dat riff.   :metal :metal

Hell yeah. If I had to choose just one heavy DT riff, that'd be it.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: PixelDream on October 29, 2014, 07:16:21 PM
My kinda thread! Some of these aren't the absolute hardest, but still hard in their own right.

My favs include these parts:

Scarred: https://youtu.be/G6SjyRLKy70?t=2m28s

The Mirror: DAT Simple Riff: https://youtu.be/P-k2JSZd_Qw?t=2m20s

The Glass Prison: DESE Riffs: https://youtu.be/gwDgX7Un3AQ?t=1m55s  and https://youtu.be/gwDgX7Un3AQ?t=2m13s

The Test That Stumped Them All: https://youtu.be/h3JO8awhZnA?t=36s (For some reason, I feel like this riff is DT's heaviest moment. Heavy in an energetic sense, not really a dark sense. Either this, or The Glass Prison.)

Learning To Live: https://youtu.be/GjXe9Jd209Y?t=3m10s

A Change Of Seasons: https://youtu.be/mZKrwJzGg0k?t=1m40s

Sacrificed Sons: https://youtu.be/3nBpLzNwkZw?t=7m18s

Bridges In The Sky: https://youtu.be/S1fNCc_whtU?t=1m49s

Honor Thy Father: https://youtu.be/KGHXy9Fa45k?t=9m24s

In The Name Of God: https://youtu.be/ruxeHJEdh20?t=10m7s (Specifically here when it comes back in after the unison solo)

On The Backs Of Angels: https://youtu.be/oasnbzEMV08?t=1m55s

Peruvian Skies: https://youtu.be/dr0ebtzSeWM?t=4m19s (Love all 3 back to back riffs)

Pull Me Under: https://youtu.be/SGRgAULYgWE?t=1m16s

These Walls: https://youtu.be/MzovR0s7EbI?t=6m27s

The Great Debate: https://youtu.be/4z6vpiXQJNA?t=2m43s

The Root Of All Evil: https://youtu.be/RgAc7ekYmVA?t=7m19s

Great summary dude. Super heavy.
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: adamack on October 30, 2014, 12:15:23 PM
My kinda thread! Some of these aren't the absolute hardest, but still hard in their own right.

My favs include these parts:

.....

Great summary dude. Super heavy.

 :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: CrimsonSunrise on October 30, 2014, 04:35:30 PM
Mirror/Lie... together...cause they should NEVER be played separately!  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: lucky7 on October 30, 2014, 04:42:06 PM
I agree with a lot of you The Dark Eternal Night is it....Train of Thought the whole album..
Title: Re: DT's Best Heaviest Moments?
Post by: Crow on October 31, 2014, 09:22:54 AM
I think The Mirror is one of their best heavy songs. That's the first that comes to mind.
yes absolutely, this is the best, the end