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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: npiazza91 on October 23, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
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Lost Not Forgotten, Honor Thy Father, Blind Faith, Sacrificed Sons, Scarred. All 5 of these songs are between 10 and 11 minutes. I thought it was interesting that each one is from a different album. They are all prety unique to one another and show different styles to DT. Rank these songs from best to worst.
1. Blind Faith: This song has recently been waning on me slightly because I over play it a lot, but I can't deny it's an amazing song. 6D is my #1 album and this song is a primary reason why.
2. Sacrificed Sons: I'm not gonna lie...it was close between this one and #1. This song is amazing and I love the contrast between the first half and the second half, how it slowly builds to get heavier and heavier.
3. Scarred: I personally prefer Voices, the other epic on Awake. Still, Scarred is a great song that still lands in my top 30.
4. Honor Thy Father: This is where the list takes a massive drop. This song is alright, I love the chorus and the "DON'T CROSS THE CROOKED STEP" part, but parts of it, especially the rapping, makes me cringe. I'm not even sure if this makes my top 50. Probably not
5. Lost Not Forgotten: Boring. This is what I think of when I think of this song, I rank it as the worst song on ADTOE and for good reason. This song is a chore to get through. It feels dry and uninspired. It's not terrible, but it's not great. It's ok I guess, just very boring.
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Blind Faith
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Scarred
5. Lost Not Forgotten
You made great points on all these, but I disagree with HTF. Pretty killer song IMO. Lyrically I love both Scarred and LNF, but musically, Scarred is my least favorite from Awake, and you nailed it: LNF is just plain boring.
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1. Scarred
2. Blind Faith
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Lost Not Forgotten: Wouldn't be bad if Under A Glass Moon didn't already exist.
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Ranking arbitrary things is what DTF is all about! :metal
1. Blind Faith - One of DT's most amazingly incredible standout songs, as most of SDOIT is. This song took forever to grow on me, and crept up slowly, so it's probably easily top 10 for me these days.
2. Sacrificed Sons - A beautiful song, with a uniquely sombre mood, and a typically awesome JP solo.
3. Honor Thy Father - I'm not always in the mood for heavy, but when I am, this song is one of my favourites from ToT to listen to. It's so unashamedly heavy and badass.
4. Lost Not Forgotten - One of my favourites from ADTOE, and a good song, but not one I return to often these days. It makes me want to listen to UAGM.
5. Scarred - DT's worst song this side of WDADU.
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1- Sacrificed Sons
2- Honor Thy Father
3- Lost Not Forgotten
4- Blind Faith
5- Scarred
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SLoscar Not Forgottred
*starts to speak really fast*HonorThyFatherBlindFaith
*much slower, normal speed* Sacrificed Sons.
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1 - Scarred (Top 10)
2 - Blind Faith (Top 31)
---AVERAGE---
3 - Sacrificed Sons
4 - Honor Thy Father
5 - Lost not Forgotten
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Scarred >>>> Blind Faith >>> Honor Thy Father > Sacrificed Sons > Lost Not Forgotten
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1. Scarred
2. Blind Faith
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Honor Thy Father
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1. Scarred
2. Blind Faith
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Sacrificed Sons
Scarred is Top 5 DT song material, with Blind Faith well within the Top 20, whereas Sacrificed Sons is really the only average song of the bunch.
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1 Scarred
2 Honor Thy Father
3 Sacrificed Sons
4 Lost Not Forgotten / Blind Faith ... Can't decide which is worse :laugh: Both are bottom material.
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1. Scarred
2. Sacrificed Sons
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. Blind Faith
5. Honor Thy Father
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Blind Faith
4. Honor Thy Father
5. Scarred
Only Sacrificed Sons are among my favourites, while the others are lower material (especially Scarred).
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I just adore how polarizing Scarred is. :heart
:lol
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All great songs in their own regard.
Honor Thy Father is probably almost a top 10 song no joke, definitely used to be. It's one of the heaviest things DT have done, and the guitar and drums have a great chemistry in this one.
I like Blind Faith because the instrumentation and solos are amazing.
Lost not Forgotten can blow my brain apart with it's tickle section. Verses have awesome riffs, chorus is catchy. Great.
Sacrificed Sons. This one bores me a bit sometimes, but by the third verse and after that bridge that starts off with the bass, things really pick up and the song gets a lot better. I find it drags a bit at the start, but I get what the piece is going for, which is a subtle build up into something epic.
Scarred - This is one of DTs songs that took the longest to grow on me, but now that it has, I really appreciate how different it is. Has some really cool bass grooves for JM, I love the syncopated guitar riff just before the solo section, also has a great instrumental section. Still probably my least favorite out of this selection though.
You know, one thing 3 of these songs have in common that I only just noticed, but SS, HTF and Scarred all have similar syncopated guitar riffs that that emphasise the off beats. Technically I guess it's nothing too fancy, but still very cool sounding.
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1. Blind Faith
2. Sacrificed Sons
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Scarred
5. Lost not Forgotten
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Scarred
3. Blind Faith
4. Honor Thy Father
5. Lost Not Forgotten
I love Sacrificed Sons; Scarred and Blind Faith are good, Honor Thy Father is alright, Lost Not Forgotten is one of my least favourite DT songs.
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1. Sacrificed Sons - I've always loved this track, especially the ending and the whole second half really. One of their more underrated songs for me, a top 15 song.
2. Scarred - Not quite as good as Voices, but definitely my 2nd favourite from Awake. Not top tier stuff, but probably just outside my top 25.
3. Lost Not Forgotten - Really good fun, but not even in my top 4 tracks on ADTOE. Ranked a little bit lower than Scarred now that my initial love for ADTOE has worn off slightly.
4. Blind Faith - I've never quite managed to get this song for some reason. It has all the ingredients for me to really enjoy it, but it's just never clicked with me. I don't dislike it or anything though.
5. Honor Thy Father - Again, not a song I dislike, but definitely one of the weakest tracks on ToT. Could have swapped positions with BF and these 2 are not as strong as the other 3.
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1. Blind Faith - great atmosphere, one of Jordan's absolute best performances with the triple piano-organ-synth solo, excellent chorus, top 10 material
2. Scarred - excellent drumming, love how creative MP can get in a mid-tempo song; great vocal melodies, feels like it has two choruses ("What if" and then the real chorus, great moment when the double bass kicks in @ "Belief will always save me", just like in the chorus of TDEN)
3. LNF - technical and engaging, great contrast between the complexity of the tickle section and the simple groovy riff which comes right after, oh yeah! Also features some of my favorite solos in recent years from both JP (great tone, and the whammy bar flutter is one of my favorite things you can do with a guitar) and JR (finally something a bit more melodic with that patch)
4. SS - great transition from soft to heavy, some of it reminds a lot of ITPOE (at 2:15, 3:34, I always hum along "daaaark masteeer", 4:20 is also a lot like 0:45 of ITPOE), the lyrics alienate me a bit and that babbling at the beginning is so annoying, taints the song
5. HTF - fun, but not my cup of tea by all means
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1. Scarred
2. Blind Faith
Both of these are Top 10 songs for me.
3. Lost Not Forgotten - One of the best songs on ADTOE
4. Honor Thy Father - I used to like this one a lot, but it has lost a lot of luster over the years. I really have to be in the right mood to listen to this, and I am rarely in that mood.
5. Sacrificed Sons - pretty much the same thing. There's nothing wrong with it, but there is nothing captivating about it either. Have to be in the right mood.
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1. Lost Not Forgotten
2. Scarred
3. Blind Faith
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Honor Thy Father
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1 Scarred
2 Sacrificed Sons
3 Honor thy father
4 Lost not forgotten
5 Blind Faith
Honor thy Father is different song to compare to the others ... it's like you compare 'cover my eyes' and 'Illumination Theory' ;D
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4. SS - great transition from soft to heavy, some of it reminds a lot of ITPOE (at 2:15, 3:34, I always hum along "daaaark masteeer", 4:20 is also a lot like 0:45 of ITPOE), the lyrics alienate me a bit and that babbling at the beginning is so annoying, taints the song
You should only listen to the Greatest Hit version, then! They cut that part out. ;)
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1. Scarred
2. Blind Faith
Both of these are Top 10 songs for me.
3. Lost Not Forgotten - One of the best songs on ADTOE
4. Honor Thy Father - I used to like this one a lot, but it has lost a lot of luster over the years. I really have to be in the right mood to listen to this, and I am rarely in that mood.
5. Sacrificed Sons - pretty much the same thing. There's nothing wrong with it, but there is nothing captivating about it either. Have to be in the right mood.
Pretty much this, except LNF is my least favorite on ADTOE despite being a good song.
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Scarred - the best DT
Sacrificed Sons - in the good but not great category
Blind Faith - good song let down by some cheesiness
Honor Thy Father - boring anger and heaviness, probably the one song that should've been cut from ToT
Lost Not Forgotten - bottom 5 DT
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1. Blind Faith
2. Scarred
2. Honor Thy Father
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Sacrificed Sons
Scarred and Honor Thy Father could switch places depending on the mood i'm in. Blind Faith is among my favorite DT songs in general. I guess LNF is a pretty cool song, but not as cool as Scarred and HTF, and i don't really like Sacrificed Sons so that' s it.
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1. Blind Faith
2. Scarred
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Lost Not Forgotten
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1. Scarred: Oh god I already liked the song but it suddenly popped into my top 10 after BTFW. Beautiful...
2. Blind Faith: I really should give that album more love, the song is fantastic.
3. Sacrificed Sons: It's a nice song, not that I constantly listen to it. But I have to say Score version is great.
4. Lost Not Forgotten: It really feels like a rip-off from UAGM, yet I like the song. Not even close to a top 25 (or even 50) though.
5. Honor Thy Father: I like how strong the song is, but it's from my 2nd least favourite album and it automatically sends the song to the bottom of this short list.
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1. Scarred - Clearly the best of the bunch. Melodic, well-written, emotionally powerful.
2. Sacrificed Sons - Very emotional song. Some would say that the instrumental is out of place, but I disagree. Good lyrics.
3. Blind Faith - Yet another really emotional one. The highlights for me would be James's vocals and the spectacular instrumental section.
4. Lost Not Forgotten - Definitely was a grower for me. While it's not exactly my favorite on ADTOE, it's by no means a bad song and is definitely deserving of its place on that album.
5. Honor Thy Father - The only really subpar song, by DT standards, on this list (I would say LNF is average, SS and BF are good, and Scarred is great). Still a good song, just not one that I want to listen to often.
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Blind Faith
Scarred
Lost Not Forgotten
Sacrificed Sons
Honor Thy Father
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1. Lost Not Forgotten
2. Honor Thy Father
3. Scarred
4. Blind Faith
5. Sacrificed Sons
I'd say 3 and 4 are pretty much tied and Sacrificed Sons is quite a bit lower on my list than all the others.
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1. Scarred - A progressive masterpiece in my opinion.
2. Blind Faith - Beautiful, the keyboard/guitar harmony near the end of the instrumental section is stellar
3. Honor Thy Father - Fittingly brutal and emotional, the buildups and releases are key points in this song
4. Lost Not Forgotten - UAGM 2.0 but has its own merits as a riff factory :metal
5. Sacrificed Sons - Is okay, the instrumental section is the best part to me
Only 1-4 would be in my top 50, with Scarred and BF in my 20.
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1. Blind Faith- top 10 masterpiece. One of my favorite performances from Jordan and MP. Probably James' best lyrics.
2. Scarred- very unique feeling song. Chorus and outro are brilliant. Some parts drag a bit for me but overall it's an amazing song. Bass and drum groove in this song is killer.
3. Honor Thy Father- first song I really loved from DT when I was all metal and no prog. Heavy, groovin, awesome.
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Lost Not Forgotten- UAGM clone, yes, but that doesn't make it bad at all.
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1. Blind Faith
2. Scarred
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. Honor Thy Father
5. Sacrificed Sons
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1: Blind Faith Love it, best Jordan organ sound on any song since he joined and sadly I don't think a sound he has repeated
2: Honor Thy Father Such a good heavy song, one of my fav's on the ToT album
3: Lost Not Forgotten So underrated some of the sickest unison's they have ever done, and I don't get or hear the UaGM comparison. It also has a killer groove to it.
4: Scarred I like just slightly better than SS
5: Sacrificed Sons It's good not great. Over played it live too.
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1 Blind Faith
2 Lost Not Forgotten
3 Scarred
4 Sacrificed Sons
5 Honor Thy Father
That's just how I roll.
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1. Sacrificed Sons
I just love this song ;D
2. Honor Thy Father
Great song, I really like JM's basslines.
3. Blind Faith
The only thing I like about this song are JR's parts, but they are amazing
4. Lost Not Forgotten
I really like the vocals in the chorus, they turned out great.
5. Scarred
Intro's great, the rest ....
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1. Blind Faith- top 10 masterpiece. One of my favorite performances from Jordan and MP. Probably James' best lyrics.
2. Scarred- very unique feeling song. Chorus and outro are brilliant. Some parts drag a bit for me but overall it's an amazing song. Bass and drum groove in this song is killer.
3. Honor Thy Father- first song I really loved from DT when I was all metal and no prog. Heavy, groovin, awesome.
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Lost Not Forgotten- UAGM clone, yes, but that doesn't make it bad at all.
This is my ranking too.
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1. Lost Not Forgotten (top 5)
2. Sacrificed Sons (top 10)
3. Blind Faith (top 20)
4. Scarred (somewhere in the middle)
5. Honor Thy Father (bottom 10)
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1. Blind Faith
2. Scarred
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Sacrificed Sons
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1. Blind Faith - Represents all that is great about Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence: dynamic variation, great and memorable melodies, well done and interesting instrumental parts and a powerful, clear sound.
2. Scarred - Quite eclectic and unpredictable but also very emotional with James LaBrie bringing one of his top five performances.
3. Sacrificed Songs - Similar to Octavarium in that it keeps building and building and while it isn't quite as good as that song, it's easily second place on the album (although to be fair, there's not much competition).
4. Honor Thy Father - Not terrible, but it feels kind of weak compared to everything on the same album except As I Am as the rapping feels very out of place and the song feels a bit too long.
5. Lost Not Forgotten - I can get past similarities to Images and Words songs on other tracks from A Dramatic Turn of Events but this song seems to me like just a blatant rip-off of Under a Glass Moon.
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This was actually tougher than I thought it would be...
Blind Faith
Sacrificed Sons
Scarred
Lost Not Forgotten
Honor Thy Father
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1. Blind Faith
2. Scarred
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Lost Not Forgotten
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My ranking has changed a little bit since I last posted.
1- Sacrificed Sons
2- Lost Not Forgotten
3- Honor Thy Father
4- Scarred
5- Blind Faith
With the exception of Sacrificed Sons which I hold in fairly high regard, they're all very close to each other. None of them are in my top 25, but Sacrifieced Sons is the closest and none of them are bottom tier songs.
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1. Blind Faith
2. Honor Thy Father (very close behind Blind Faith)
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Scarred
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1 Blind Faith
2 Lost Not Forgotten
3 Scarred
4 Sacrificed Sons
5 Honor Thy Father
That's just how I roll.
1. Sacrificed Sons :tup :tup
2. Lost Not Forgotten :tup :tup
3. Honor Thy Father :tup
4. Blind Faith :coolio
5. Scarred. :\
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1. Blind Faith - one of the best DT ever, probably top 15
2. Scarred - bit confusing melodic line sometimes but the final instrumental is one of the finest
3. Sacrificed Sons - not bad, some great moments but definitely not in top 30
4. Honor Thy Father - good energy, but that's pretty it
5. Lost Not Forgotten - yawn - sorry?
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1. Scarred
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Blind Faith
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Honor Thy Father
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1. Scarred, my favorite DT song
2. Sacrificed Sons, good but not outstanding
3. Blind Faith, average, some great parts (unison especially), some cheesy ones (SORRY YOU MUST EXCUSE ME, I'VE PAINTED MY OWN MONA LISA)
4. Honor Thy Father, mediocre but not awful
5. Lost Not Forgotten, bottom 5 DT song, shameless UAGM ripoff
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1. Scarred
- Masterful songwriting, emotional delivery by JLB, one of Awake's best guitar solos, incredible transitions and atmosphere
2. Blind Faith
- Very beautiful song, really cool drumming, the guitar-keyboard unison near the end is stunning.
3. Honor Thy Father
- My personal fav from ToT, just a really "cool" song, the instrumental section kicks all sorts of ass, badass and in your face.
4. Lost Not Forgotten
- Another really neat instrumental section and good guitar solo, the rest is pretty standard and a straight up riff factory.
5. Sacrificed Sons
- Really not great, the solo section has some cool riffs and neat things going though. Just not into this one.
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Lost Not Forgotten, Honor Thy Father, Blind Faith, Sacrificed Sons, Scarred. All 5 of these songs are between 10 and 11 minutes. I thought it was interesting that each one is from a different album. They are all prety unique to one another and show different styles to DT. Rank these songs from best to worst.
1. Lost Not Forgotten :metal
2. Blind Faith :hefdaddy
3. Scarred :tup
4. Sacrificed Sons :corn
5. Honor Thy Father >:(
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Blind Faith
Scarred
Sacrificed Sons
Lost Not Forgotten
Honor Thy Father (this is probably more guilt by association than anything; ToT is my least favorite album of the MP-JLB era)
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1- Blind Faith
2- Lost not forgotten
3- Sacrificed sons
4- Honor thy father
5- Scarred
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1. Blind Faith
2. Sacrificed Sons
3. Scarred
4. Honor Thy Father
5. Lost Not Forgotten
Honestly, that was pretty hard to choose, aside from LNF. I'd say on any random day I could change the order of the first 3 easily, and HTF is not far behind. Only LNF, while a decent song, doesn't grab me as much as the others.
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Blind Faith - One of my top 3 DT songs. Excellent in every sense of the word (especially the lyrics and the overall mood)
Lost Not Forgotten - Excellent overall. I don't dig the instrumental section as much but I love the lyrics and the riffs.
Sacrificed Sons - This is a great song that I just don't feel like listening to very much. There is nothing wrong with it.
Scarred - I only got into this song recently thanks to BTFW so it has grown on me but I would still put it in the lower half of DT's catalog overall.
Honor Thy Father - This song does nothing for me.
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1.Scarred
2.Blind Faith
3.Honor Thy Father
4.Lost Not Forgotten
5.Sacrificed Sons
First two are top 10 DT,the rest doesn't do much for me anymore.
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1. Honor Thy Father
2. Lost Not Forgotten (This song could have been really awesome but something is missing in it that would have taken it to the next level. It is hard to say what though)
3. Blind Faith (This would rank higher but as a Christian the lyrics are hard for me to get into)
4. Scarred
5. Sacrificed Sons
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5. Sacrificed Sons
4. Scarred
3. Lost Not Forgotten
2. Honor Thy Father
1. Blind Faith
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Scarred
5. Blind Faith
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Honor Thy Father
4. Blind Faith
5. Scarred
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This is a strage list. This is what I have to say, though.
1. Scarred - I love this song. I don't understand the hate this one gets. It's not near my favorite off the album, but I love it when it comes around.
2. Blind Faith - This song was slightly ruined for me by the Four Degrees of Radio Edits promo. Heck, the whole album became weird to me since I got so used those four edited songs prior to release of Six Degrees. I listened to FDORE so many times, and that was my mistake. It is for this reason I don't listen to anything before an album is released anymore. Anyway, amongst the other songs on this list, it's my number 2.
3. Sacrificed Sons - I didn't care much for this one at first, but I like it. It's one of the weaker songs on the album in my opinion, though.
4. Honor Thy Father - The rap part is weird, but this is probably my favorite off of Train of Thought. Having said that, TOT is my least favorite DT album. It doesn't get many spins from me.
5. Lost Not Forgotten - Doesn't do it for me. In recent listens I have appreciated it more, but I think it's one of the weaker songs on the album. I also think it's a little out of place lyrically and story-wise amongst the other songs on the album.
Out of curiosity, why did you choose these five songs in particular? Is it just length?
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- honor thy father
-sacrificed son
-blind faith
-scarred
-lost not forgotten
:)
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1. Sacrificed Sons
2. Scarred
3. Blind Faith
4. Honor Thy Father
5. Lost Not Forgotten
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1. Blind Faith
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Scarred
4. Sacrificed Sons
5. Honor Thy Father
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1. Scarred (tied for their best song)
2. Blind Faith (great tune; arguably a top 25 DT song)
3. Lost Not Forgotten (very good songs, even though I am not big on the tickle section)
4. Honor Thy Father (I don't like this nearly as much as I used to, mostly because I find the vocal sections now awkward, but it sure does rock)
5. Sacrificed Sons (not a bad song, but not notable at all; probably their most boring song in this time range)
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1. Honor Thy Father
2. Lost Not Forgotten
3. Blind Faith
4. Scarred
5. Sacrificed Sons