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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: sneakyblueberry on September 26, 2014, 06:21:30 PM
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No AC/DC thread?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/09/26/report-acdcs-malcolm-young-has-dementia-wont-return-to-band/
The news about Malcolm Young has made me pretty sad. Dementia can suck a bag o' D's. :(
Cheers to Malcolm Young, perhaps the greatest rhythm guitarist of all time. Killer tone, playing as solid as a fucking rock.
:metal
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I saw that yesterday from the Guitar World FB page.
Very sad that Malcolm Young is in such rough shape, with no chance of coming back to the band. He's such a huge part of AC/DC, not just musically, but also in managing the band. And as you said, his rhythm playing was rock solid. He was only playing simple parts, but he mastered that role in a way that's quite underrated.
Black Ice was such a hugely successful album and tour for them, that I think it would have been a good time to retire. I doubt they need to keep touring at this point. That said, I'll still check out the album, but it won't quite be the same without Malcolm.
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I actually read this yesterday and was going to make a post, but at the time I could only find this news one two sites and wasn't sure of its validity. But now that it's practically everywhere, unfortunately it seems that this news is accurate. :-\ Dementia is horrible.
Not sure about the continuation of the band but I'll check out the new album anyway as I usually do, although it's been a while since I was into the band at all. I have even lesser expectations for this particular album given Malcolm's prior significance.
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Didn't they already announce this a few months back? I have a very distinct deja vu.
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Didn't they already announce this a few months back? I have a very distinct deja vu.
They announced that Malcolm Young wouldn't be working on the new album with them due to his medical issues, but I'm not sure if they mentioned the full extent of Malcolm's illness, and the fact he would officially not be returning ever in future. I also can't remember if they've had any official news about his replacement until now, or made any mention of the tour arrangements, even though it was suspected.
For such a big band, they're not very public with this sort of stuff.
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Ya know, I think letting him play on tour might make their shows a bit more interesting, but then I got a sort of fucked up sense of humor.
About the only good thing in all of this is that he might well be quite happy during his final years. My grams had frontal-temporal lobe dementia, and I think she might have been happier after she went off her nut. She enjoyed company and babbling incoherently, and when the end came it came fast and blindsided her. Just sucks pretty hard for everybody else.
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Didn't they already announce this a few months back? I have a very distinct deja vu.
They announced that Malcolm Young wouldn't be working on the new album with them due to his medical issues, but I'm not sure if they mentioned the full extent of Malcolm's illness, and the fact he would officially not be returning ever in future. I also can't remember if they've had any official news about his replacement until now, or made any mention of the tour arrangements, even though it was suspected.
For such a big band, they're not very public with this sort of stuff.
There were rumours of a stroke (a possibility given he now has dementia), but like you say, nothing concrete until now.
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Eek. Dementia is a bitch. And he's quite young for it. I wonder if it's alcohol-related.
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And he's quite young for it.
I thought that myself and was about to say the same thing in my post but wasn't sure if I was right about it. It does seem quite young. From what I can gather the stroke led to the dementia.
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Yeah... lots of alcohol can lead to stroke, and lots of alcohol can also lead to dementia, sooo...
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And he's quite young for it.
I thought that myself and was about to say the same thing in my post but wasn't sure if I was right about it. It does seem quite young. From what I can gather the stroke led to the dementia.
It's less common but by no means rare, especially if alcohol is involved. Youngest person I've nursed with dementia was 36. That's rare thankfully.
Of course a stroke can happen at any age.
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And he's quite young for it.
I thought that myself and was about to say the same thing in my post but wasn't sure if I was right about it. It does seem quite young. From what I can gather the stroke led to the dementia.
It's less common but by no means rare, especially if alcohol is involved. Youngest person I've nursed with dementia was 36. That's rare thankfully.
Of course a stroke can happen at any age.
:omg: Jesus! Just told my wife, if I ever get dementia just put me in a home straightaway. I'd hate the thought of both losing my mind and my family having to look after me in that state :(
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Jesus, 36?! What do you do for work, Lowdz?
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Jesus, 36?! What do you do for work, Lowdz?
I worked for many years in the inpatient admissions for people with challenging behaviour in dementia in the NHS here in the UK.
Nowadays I go to care homes to advise the staff on how to manage the residents who's behaviour they are struggling to manage.
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That's awesome. I work in hospice and going into nursing homes all the time, so I see a LOT of dementia.
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The family has now officially confirmed that he is suffering from dementia (I believe it was rumor up to this point?)
But on a happier note, they did tease a 30-second clip of the new song on TBS...it sounds like AC/DC... :biggrin:
https://www.teamrock.com/news/2014-09-26/ac-dc-tease-play-ball-track
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That's awesome. I work in hospice and going into nursing homes all the time, so I see a LOT of dementia.
:hefdaddy
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Do not know where else to put this, but uhhhh, this is not really the greatest of news for the band to hear in times like these.
https://411mania.com/music/acdc-drummer-charged-in-alleged-murder-plot/
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Wow, that's pretty crazy.
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Sucks that they couldn't have just retired as a band with dignity before all this.
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His lady was probably nagging at him night and day and driving him nuts. He wanted her gone but just didn't have the guts.
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Just saw this. Also saw he wasn't in band promo pics or videos. Brian said it was due to a family emergency.
Not a good way for a legendary band to drop the curtain on a legendary career if true.
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His lady was probably nagging at him night and day and driving him nuts. He wanted her gone but just didn't have the guts.
:tup
Sucks that they couldn't have just retired as a band with dignity before all this.
The Black Ice tour would have been the perfect send-off. Being currently two members down (and the whole rhythm section no less) is a pretty big hit in one go.
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His lady was probably nagging at him night and day and driving him nuts. He wanted her gone but just didn't have the guts.
:rollin
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His lady was probably nagging at him night and day and driving him nuts. He wanted her gone but just didn't have the guts.
Well done.
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I guess they'll open the upcoming tour with Jailbreak.
Anyhoo, the band's only statement is about as informative as ever:
“We’ve only become aware of Phil’s arrest as the news was breaking. We have no further comment. Phil’s absence will not affect the release of our new album Rock or Bust and upcoming tour next year”
It seems pretty easy to see that they've been planning on him not being around all along. His absence from the publicity stuff is pretty noticeable now, and it doesn't seem to matter that he almost certainly won't be on the road with them next year. They're honestly starting to remind me of Kiss. Two guys are important and they replace the other members with animatrons from abandoned Chuck E. Cheese's and figure if they don't say anything nobody will notice. As of right now I'd say that it's Cliff that people should be particularly worried about [Strange deja vous].
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I guess it's time to give Slade a call
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I guess it's time to give Slade a call
Hellyeah!
Chris Slade with his mounted bass drums on Thunderstruck at Live At Donington was my introduction to AC/DC.
(https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/original/iR2DHZtMnr6WBVp081qrAEuNmBp.jpg)
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I was hoping for Slade too, but what's he been up to for the past 20 years? At least it would soften the blow of losing two long-time members, by keeping it in the AC/DC family.
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I am sure this would be a better gig for Simon Wright than Dio's Disciples. He is actualy a far better drummer as he has gotten older.
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So apparently the charge has been withdrawn:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10716815/AC-DC-drummer-Phil-Rudd-Procuring-murder-charge-dropped
The Crown solicitor said there was insufficient evidence to justify the charge and has withdrawn the charge, Mabey said.
Well that was weirdly quick!
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You don't get where he is without having friends in high places, I guess.
(BTW...remind me to never piss him off.) :xbones
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He's still charged with threats to kill and possession but yeah - not looking quite so bad for him.
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Maybe a dumb question, but (aside from the president), is it really against the law to threaten to kill someone? I assume there has to be more to it than a 'threat?"
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Maybe a dumb question, but (aside from the president), is it really against the law to threaten to kill someone? I assume there has to be more to it than a 'threat?"
I can't speak for New Zealand but it's certainly a serious offence in Australia as long as it's proven that the threat was made with the realistic prospect that the victim would take it seriously.
https://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/ca195882/s20.html
Now the maximum tabled there wouldn't be very realistic I imagine (people get less for raping/killing people) but it's certainly an offence that is taken seriously.
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Maybe a dumb question, but (aside from the president), is it really against the law to threaten to kill someone? I assume there has to be more to it than a 'threat?"
It's assault, assuming you have the capability to do it when you say you will. Beyond that a gazillion different local, state and federal laws will come into play.
I'll also throw out that it goes beyond threatening the president; that'll just get you a courteous tea-time visit from the secret service. Threaten a teacher, principal or classmate and you'll be answering the same questions in a jail cell. Threatening anybody other than a straight, white, American, atheist male will suddenly get you federal charges.
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Anyone catch the band on the Grammys? I know the grammys are, well, the Grammys, but kudos to them for bringing it, even if most of the audience was all "Do I stand for this? Pump my fist? Clap? Do those devil horn things?"
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Anyone catch the band on the Grammys? I know the grammys are, well, the Grammys, but kudos to them for bringing it, even if most of the audience was all "Do I stand for this? Pump my fist? Clap? Do those devil horn things?"
My DVR has all Prime Time events available on demand, so I decided to watch it (well, listen to it in the background). Most in the audience seemed to be very respectful to AC/DC.
But yes. The Grammys are ridiculously lame. I heard Tenacious D won best metal, for a Dio cover no less. But it actually sounds about right for the Grammys. It is why I really didn't care when DT were nominated. Even if they won; nobody would know. The only good thing the Grammys can really do for an artist is to give them air time for a performance. The actual awards part of it is a joke and one particular *artist* can't grasp this.
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Thunderstruck was on the radio the other day, and I concluded that it might be the best hard rock song of all time.
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Anyone catch the band on the Grammys? I know the grammys are, well, the Grammys, but kudos to them for bringing it, even if most of the audience was all "Do I stand for this? Pump my fist? Clap? Do those devil horn things?"
My DVR has all Prime Time events available on demand, so I decided to watch it (well, listen to it in the background). Most in the audience seemed to be very respectful to AC/DC.
But yes. The Grammys are ridiculously lame. I heard Tenacious D won best metal, for a Dio cover no less. But it actually sounds about right for the Grammys. It is why I really didn't care when DT were nominated. Even if they won; nobody would know. The only good thing the Grammys can really do for an artist is to give them air time for a performance. The actual awards part of it is a joke and one particular *artist* can't grasp this.
The Grammys, hell any award show, is all one giant ego stroking pissing match and it's not like winning one of these actually raises an artist's profile and visibility level. That said, AC/DC brought it and they brought it good. And the fans that watched it that has tickets to the shows for the upcoming tour should be pleased with the end result.
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I thought it was OK. Brian sounded better than he has in a long time, but he hasn't been completely ravaged by a full tour yet either. The rest of the band sounded like they still needed to "shake the rust off".
It was kinda cool to see Slade back behind the kit again...but I'll admit I was hoping for Simon Wright. But I think I'm in the minority on that one.
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I caught it, I thought they were looking and sounding great! Great to see Slade back in the band.
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Brian was so good, I was convinced he was lip-syncing for a while. I was proven wrong, though. There's a great video that features Paul McCartney rocking out in the audience to AC/DC's Grammy performance, I thought that was as awesome as a video gets. :metal
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Found a terrible quality film - the - tv upload of it and it sounded like HighWay to Hell was slower than usual.
I know they're all like 60 years old but It's not exactly a fast song to begin with :-X
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It was super slow, yeah.
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Highway to Hell was definitely plodding. I don't know if they were playing to a click or whether or not, but the song didn't work well at that tempo. Rock Or Bust sounded very good though, close to the studio version, as you'd expect being a new song.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-forced-to-postpone-ten-shows-or-risk-total-hearing-loss-for-singer-brian-johnson/
Probably time to retire.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/acdc-forced-to-postpone-ten-shows-or-risk-total-hearing-loss-for-singer-brian-johnson/
Probably time to retire.
I'd agree, but then I worry about that whole retirement = death thing. Let's not tempt 2016 any more.
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Just saw that too. Scary.
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Hey look at that! One show every 3 days. What a concept. Meanwhile LaBrie is being asked to sing 4 nights in a row ::) Wonder how he could hold up if he got 2 days off between every show.
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Hey look at that! One show every 3 days. What a concept. Meanwhile LaBrie is being asked to sing 4 nights in a row ::) Wonder how he could hold up if he got 2 days off between every show.
Hearing loss.
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Hey look at that! One show every 3 days. What a concept. Meanwhile LaBrie is being asked to sing 4 nights in a row ::) Wonder how he could hold up if he got 2 days off between every show.
I doubt very seriously he'd be holding up worth a damn after having sang AC/DC for 36 years.
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That sucks. That's not the way a rocker wants to go down.
With Malcolm out, and this, I think it's time to call it a day. They went out with a strong album, so it wouldn't be a bad finish. It just wouldn't be the same seeing them with a guest vocalist.
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BTW, my first thoughts when I saw this thread bumped was I was about to read about the sad passing of Malcolm Young. So in a strange way, the news was ... don't want to say a relief, but at least I didn't have to hear about another death.
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For the record, it's been said that his hearing loss is not because of AC/DC but because of his auto racing side career (AC/DC is by far the loudest concert I've ever been to; only one close was Deep Purple).
I think the calls to "hang it up" are a little insensitive, honestly. For me, I can see Angus wanting to go on. They've replaced singers twice now, they replaced the co-founder (and by all accounts, leader) of the band... as much as I love Brian, he's not indispensable. Myles Kennedy did an hour set of just AC/DC tunes with Gov't Mule not long ago, and nailed the shit out of it. They can persevere.
But this isn't about Brian. By all accounts, Mal and Angus are very focused, very driven people that have dedicated their entire existence to the entity that is AC/DC. It's not a business to them (even if it is sometimes approached like a job). I can very easily see Angus feeling like Joe Paterno: "If I retire, I die" (which Paterno did, less than four months after retiring).
Let him put it out there, and we can vote with our wallets. I have a feeling more people would go to that than you think (depending, of course, on who the singer actually is; I wouldn't go to Foxboro Stadium to see a Blackmore-type thing with some guy from Argentina... no offense to Argentina. I would go to see Marc Storace or someone like that).
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Yay, a Marc Storace reference!
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BTW, my first thoughts when I saw this thread bumped was I was about to read about the sad passing of Malcolm Young. So in a strange way, the news was ... don't want to say a relief, but at least I didn't have to hear about another death.
Yeah, same here.
ACDC with Storace (great call, BTW) would work, but they won't be selling out arenas with that. It would depend on whether or not Angus wants to do a club tour. I just don't see them even playing midsize venues like that. Moreover, at what point does it A: stop being ACDC, and B: stop being Angus's passion? Losing Malcom or Johson is one thing. Seems like a tour with neither might be a bit depressing for the lad.
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I think the name AC/DC alone will draw a large amount of people for some time to come, regardless of who is singing. Maybe not selling out the really big arenas, but I don't think they would have to reduce it to a club tour.
And when does it stop being AC/DC? One can ask this question with so many other bands (Queen, Yes, Deep Purple just to name a few) and I think this is up to personal opinion.
And I just can't imagine Angus hanging his guitar on the wall and calling it quits, I don't know in which form he could/should continue but to think of him not doing anything rock 'n' roll related just doesn't work.
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I understand there's a pretty big but under-served market for Renaissance music. He could do that.
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Axl Rose is apparently official now.
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Holy fucking shit, I'm kind of drunk so I don't know if this is actually real or not. Holy shit. Axl is on boeard.
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It's real, it's on yahoo
I threw up in my mouth a little
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Well, shit
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What, in the blue hell? My friend mentioned this as a rumor to me, but I never saw it verified or posted anywhere.
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AC/DC has now lost 3 KEY members (2 of them original members) in the last year or two. I feel bad for them, but maybe Angus needs to just hang it up.
I can see wanting to finish out the rest of the tour. I think there were only 10 dates or so left, and it would be a shame to cancel them altogether. But ya....seriously.
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You guys are overreacting. This is just for the remaining dates and then the band figures out the future of Brian Johnson.
It's unfortunate but they want to finish those dates.
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AC/DC has now lost 3 KEY members (2 of them original members) in the last year or two. I feel bad for them, but maybe Angus needs to just hang it up.
It's been a lot of change in a short span of time. Losing Malcolm was a huge loss to begin with, for obvious reason. Losing Phil Rudd wouldn't have been a huge deal alone, and they replaced him with a former established member, but together with Malcolm, that was a huge hit to the rhythm section of the band. And now on top of that, they've lost their frontman, the voice of the band for 36 years. That is arguably the most difficult spot to lose, because it's what people identify with. It's a make or break factor for many bands, and many times the difference maker between filling arenas, and playing pubs.
I'm still glad they managed to complete that last album (one of my favourites too), and am fine with them wanting to finish off the currently scheduled tour dates though.
Canceling the tour would have been the easiest and safest option, but obviously they didn't want to go that route. With that in mind, I think it was a good approach to choose an established frontman that was a household name in their own right. They're going to lose sales without Brian Johnson whoever they choose, but they'd lose more sales if they went with some no-name cover band singer, no matter how good. Brian Johnson hasn't been a great live voice in a long time, so I don't think that's the most important factor in choosing a replacement.
Of course the double edged sword of an established vocalist is that they come with their own baggage, bringing in new fans, and also pushing away others. Axl Rose is certainly a polarizing individual, and many people are put off by that, although personally I don't think it's a bad choice, and I think there's a decent amount of overlap in the Venn diagram of GNR / ACDC fans among the wider general public of rock fans that ACDC appeals and caters to. They weren't going to satisfy everyone regardless of who they chose.
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If I had millions upon millions in the bank and My Doctor said I had to stop playing live or i'd go deaf - that would be a no brainer for me personally.
Retire and enjoy what time I have left.
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Rose is already touring with one washed up rock band this year; might as well make it two!
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But does Brian Johnson have to retire from music or just touring (loud music).
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For me it's not necessarily if Axl can sing the songs or not, it's more like this:
AC/DC always came across as down to earth, hard working guys (albeit probably stinkin' filthy rich) who want to give the fans something for the money.
Now you get the greatest diva of rock 'n' roll alive as replacement. A man who's known for bitchin' around constantly, startin' concerts late or ending concerts early because of flimsy reasons. A man with very questionable work ethics.
Was there really no one else who could've done this?
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I wouldn't mind knowing who else they had in mind and thus who was passed over.
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I wouldn't mind knowing who else they had in mind and thus who was passed over.
The tried out some AC/DC cover band singer.
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I wouldn't mind knowing who else they had in mind and thus who was passed over.
The tried out some AC/DC cover band singer.
I checked out some clips of him. He does an absolute spot on rendition.
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I have no trouble with what they're doing , but that press release wishing Brian "well with his future endeavours" without calling it a day was pretty rank IMO.
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I have no trouble with what they're doing , but that press release wishing Brian "well with his future endeavours" without calling it a day was pretty rank IMO.
yes its very greasy
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I have no trouble with what they're doing , but that press release wishing Brian "well with his future endeavours" without calling it a day was pretty rank IMO.
yes its very greasy
hmm, I didn't think it was that bad, as far as 'message to the fans clearly written by management and not the band themselves'-type press releases go. I get you though, you'd think after all these years there would be a bit more of a send off. maybe things went a bit sour between the boys, or maybe it's just your typical management balls up.
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For me it's more about what they didn't say:
- there was no indication that if his health improves that he has the slot
- they didn't really say he is out permanently (although it's clear to me that he is...."best in future endeavours" is what a board says to an incompetent CEO as he gets the boot)
- they didn't clarify the future of the band
If they're done after the tour then great , just say it and it all seems more legit. If they're hopeful that Brian can get back then say it. It seems to me that they're ashamed to spell out exactly what they're up to here.
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If AC/DC really is going down the road of being very classless, then Axl Rose really is the perfect choice to be the new (temporary) singer. :lol
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If AC/DC really is going down the road of being very classless, then Axl Rose really is the perfect choice to be the new (temporary) singer. :lol
:clap: Indeed.
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- they didn't really say he is out permanently (although it's clear to me that he is...."best in future endeavours" is what a board says to an incompetent CEO as he gets the boot)
Reminds me of those times of what WWE says when they "release" wrestlers from their contracts.
"We wish Brian Johnson the best of luck in his future endeavors."
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Word is the next AC/DC album will sound eerily similar to Back in Black. Fortunately for them, every song sounds eerily similar to Back in Black. Unfortunately for them, they weren't clever enough with the song titles to hide it.
Old Smells
Take my Pills
Still Gotta Tour for Money Honey
Blue Pill Gives Me a Bone
Can I Put My Love into You
Crack My Back
I'm Shakin' All Day Long
Have a Drink and Pee
Break a Leg
Rock and Roll Ain't Ear Dilution
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For me it's more about what they didn't say:
- there was no indication that if his health improves that he has the slot
- they didn't really say he is out permanently (although it's clear to me that he is...."best in future endeavours" is what a board says to an incompetent CEO as he gets the boot)
- they didn't clarify the future of the band
If they're done after the tour then great , just say it and it all seems more legit. If they're hopeful that Brian can get back then say it. It seems to me that they're ashamed to spell out exactly what they're up to here.
And didn't Brain Johnson himself say that he didn't understand why he got the boot that quickly?
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Seems like AC/DC is more of a business than a band now - management calling all the shots and making all the plays.
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Statement from Brian (sounds like he hopes he is still in but not sure :lol) - says he will continue to record in the studio , but with who?
He is a real gent is Brian.
As many AC/DC fans know, the remaining shows for the 2016 AC/DC Rock or Bust World Tour, including 10 postponed U.S. shows, are being rescheduled with a guest singer. I want personally to explain the reason because I don’t believe the earlier press releases sufficiently set out what I wanted to say to our fans or the way in which I thought it should be presented.
On March 7th, after a series of examinations by leading physicians in the field of hearing loss, I was advised that if I continue to perform at large venues, I risked total deafness. While I was horrified at the reality of the news that day, I had for a time become aware that my partial hearing loss was beginning to interfere with my performance on stage. I was having difficulty hearing the guitars on stage and because I was not able to hear the other musicians clearly, I feared the quality of my performance could be compromised. In all honesty this was something I could not in good conscience allow. Our fans deserve my performance to be at the highest level, and if for any reason I can’t deliver that level of performance I will not disappoint our fans or embarrass the other members of AC/DC. I am not a quitter and I like to finish what I start, nevertheless, the doctors made it clear to me and my bandmates that I had no choice but to stop performing on stage for the remaining shows and possibly beyond. That was the darkest day of my professional life.
Since that day, I have had several consultations with my doctors and it appears that, for the near future, I will be unable to perform on stage at arena and stadium size venues where the sound levels are beyond my current tolerance, without the risk of substantial hearing loss and possibly total deafness. Until that time, I tried as best as I could to continue despite the pain and hearing loss but it all became too much to bear and too much to risk.
I am personally crushed by this development more than anyone could ever imagine. The emotional experience I feel now is worse than anything I have ever in my life felt before. Being part of AC/DC, making records and performing for the millions of devoted fans this past 36 years has been my life’s work. I cannot imagine going forward without being part of that, but for now I have no choice. The one thing for certain is that I will always be with AC/DC at every show in spirit, if not in person.
Most importantly, I feel terrible having to disappoint the fans who bought tickets for the canceled shows and who have steadfastly supported me and AC/DC these many years. Words cannot express my deep gratitude and heartfelt thanks not just for the recent outpouring to me personally of kind words and good wishes, but also for the years of loyal support of AC/DC. My thanks also go to Angus and Cliff for their support.
Finally, I wish to assure our fans that I am not retiring. My doctors have told me that I can continue to record in studios and I intend to do that. For the moment, my entire focus is to continue medical treatment to improve my hearing. I am hoping that in time my hearing will improve and allow me to return to live concert performances. While the outcome is uncertain, my attitude is optimistic. Only time will tell.
Once again, my sincere best wishes and thanks to everyone for their support and understanding.
Love,
Brian
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can they not use IEMs? Then the sound could be adjusted to whatever he needs it to be.
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That's been said a lot, and who knows.
But here's my take: whether he's being dead truthful or taking one for the machine, these are Brian's words. He puts full blame on the ear situation, and while he doesn't go out of his way to give blessing to (or even mention, for that matter) the band continuing on, it's a generally positive, and supportive message, save for the fear and pain he felt at not being able to do what he loves. I feel that as fans that's the position we should take. NO ONE'S opinion matters on this except for Angus, Brian and Cliff (and perhaps the wives). If they're good with it, we HAVE to be good with it.
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NO ONE'S opinion matters on this except for Angus, Brian and Cliff (and perhaps the wives). If they're good with it, we HAVE to be good with it.
No, because then we wouldn't be DTF where everything is dissected, analysed, ranked, argued and counter-argued.
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Well now that this is confirmed I'll Give my thoughts on this. Axls voice could actually be a good fit for AC/DC. If he can leave his ego at the door and not be a complete prick I think they can put on some entertaining shows together. Would I have preffered somebody else? Well yes, but I will admit that he's a talented dude but there's no denying the man has a reputation. He seems to have been better lately like actually showing up on time but that's still what many people think of him.
If Angus wants to finish the tour then all the power to him. However if afterwards Brian still cant return to the band then it may be time to call it quits.
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If he can leave his ego at the door and not be a complete prick I think they can put on some entertaining shows together.
This is the big question for me. I would hate to see AC/DC ruined by Axl's rockstar bullshit, especially since Bon and Brian both have that persona of that hard working, no drama, no bullshit, working class hero.
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An interesting editorial on the situation ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrDXm-iTEWs&feature=youtu.be
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I LOLED SO HARD!!!!
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:lol
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I'm actually interested in hearing AC/DC with Axl. I think it could actually be pretty good. As far as Angus hanging it up I don't understand why people say he should hang it up, or any band that has a member who leaves/dies. If you have a passion for touring then go ahead and do it and if the people don't want to see you because x member isn't there then that's fine.
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An interesting editorial on the situation ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrDXm-iTEWs&feature=youtu.be
I am so stealing this for Facebook. :lol
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An interesting editorial on the situation ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrDXm-iTEWs&feature=youtu.be
I am so stealing this for Facebook. :lol
:lol :lol AC/DCs
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Who the hell is this Donnie Baker guy? And why does he have all these selfie videos of himself on a tire swing?
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Thank God for cell phones and the internet.
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An interesting editorial on the situation ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrDXm-iTEWs&feature=youtu.be
I am so stealing this for Facebook. :lol
:lol :lol AC/DCs
Haha! That is fantastic :lol
“Won’t be long and you’ll be strung out... drippin’ like a lazy stalactite tryna join Nickelback and they probably won’t even take ya - I'm done with BOTH ya'l fuckin' bands."
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For me it's not necessarily if Axl can sing the songs or not, it's more like this:
AC/DC always came across as down to earth, hard working guys (albeit probably stinkin' filthy rich) who want to give the fans something for the money.
Now you get the greatest diva of rock 'n' roll alive as replacement. A man who's known for bitchin' around constantly, startin' concerts late or ending concerts early because of flimsy reasons. A man with very questionable work ethics.
Was there really no one else who could've done this?
While AC/DC have certainly been much more professional approach to working hard to get what they want to the fans....make no mistake....Axl, in some ways, reminds me of Bon. Brian has always been Brian...and he's done a hell of a job, and in someways (and in certain moments) surpassed what Bon was able to do. But Bon was the quintessential ***ROCK STAR***. Larger than life, "I can down two bottles of whisky, kick your ass, screw your girlfriend, and put in a top notch performance when I'm through." type of rock star. Yes, they differ greatly in punctuality....but Axl probably has more in common with Bon than with Brian.
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For me it's not necessarily if Axl can sing the songs or not, it's more like this:
AC/DC always came across as down to earth, hard working guys (albeit probably stinkin' filthy rich) who want to give the fans something for the money.
Now you get the greatest diva of rock 'n' roll alive as replacement. A man who's known for bitchin' around constantly, startin' concerts late or ending concerts early because of flimsy reasons. A man with very questionable work ethics.
Was there really no one else who could've done this?
While AC/DC have certainly been much more professional approach to working hard to get what they want to the fans....make no mistake....Axl, in some ways, reminds me of Bon. Brian has always been Brian...and he's done a hell of a job, and in someways (and in certain moments) surpassed what Bon was able to do. But Bon was the quintessential ***ROCK STAR***. Larger than life, "I can down two bottles of whisky, kick your ass, screw your girlfriend, and put in a top notch performance when I'm through." type of rock star. Yes, they differ greatly in punctuality....but Axl probably has more in common with Bon than with Brian.
Except that Axl is not the "larger than life, "I can down two bottles of whisky, kick your ass, screw your girlfriend, and put in a top notch performance when I'm through." type of rock star" at all. It's not just punctuality that differs, it's their mannerisms, their work ethic, their attitude... everything.
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For me it's not necessarily if Axl can sing the songs or not, it's more like this:
AC/DC always came across as down to earth, hard working guys (albeit probably stinkin' filthy rich) who want to give the fans something for the money.
Now you get the greatest diva of rock 'n' roll alive as replacement. A man who's known for bitchin' around constantly, startin' concerts late or ending concerts early because of flimsy reasons. A man with very questionable work ethics.
Was there really no one else who could've done this?
While AC/DC have certainly been much more professional approach to working hard to get what they want to the fans....make no mistake....Axl, in some ways, reminds me of Bon. Brian has always been Brian...and he's done a hell of a job, and in someways (and in certain moments) surpassed what Bon was able to do. But Bon was the quintessential ***ROCK STAR***. Larger than life, "I can down two bottles of whisky, kick your ass, screw your girlfriend, and put in a top notch performance when I'm through." type of rock star. Yes, they differ greatly in punctuality....but Axl probably has more in common with Bon than with Brian.
ACDC seem like the kind of guys you could approach at a bar or after a show and have a cool conversation with. Axl seems like he'd order his security guard to beat you up before he goes back to his limo and has his driver take him to his mansion where his servants take care of him while he thinks about how much like Bon Scott he is.
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Jesus...Axl Rose? :lol
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For me it's not necessarily if Axl can sing the songs or not, it's more like this:
AC/DC always came across as down to earth, hard working guys (albeit probably stinkin' filthy rich) who want to give the fans something for the money.
Now you get the greatest diva of rock 'n' roll alive as replacement. A man who's known for bitchin' around constantly, startin' concerts late or ending concerts early because of flimsy reasons. A man with very questionable work ethics.
Was there really no one else who could've done this?
While AC/DC have certainly been much more professional approach to working hard to get what they want to the fans....make no mistake....Axl, in some ways, reminds me of Bon. Brian has always been Brian...and he's done a hell of a job, and in someways (and in certain moments) surpassed what Bon was able to do. But Bon was the quintessential ***ROCK STAR***. Larger than life, "I can down two bottles of whisky, kick your ass, screw your girlfriend, and put in a top notch performance when I'm through." type of rock star. Yes, they differ greatly in punctuality....but Axl probably has more in common with Bon than with Brian.
That's an interesting perspective, J Dude.
I'm still not sure how I honestly feel about Axl/DC.
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Bassist Cliff Williams to quit the band after current tour.
Will they finally stop ?
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Hopefully. Sorry if I'm being too harsh, but it would be ridiculous not to call quits.
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Yes. Seeing as it's only Angus left.
You know they're an old band when his own son fills in for him and you can't tell the difference :lol
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Sad news from AC / DC :(
Today it is with deep heartfelt sadness that AC/DC has to announce the passing of Malcolm Young.
Malcolm, along with Angus, was the founder and creator of AC/DC.
With enormous dedication and commitment he was the driving force behind the band.
As a guitarist, songwriter and visionary he was a perfectionist and a unique man.
He always stuck to his guns and did and said exactly what he wanted.
He took great pride in all that he endeavored.
His loyalty to the fans was unsurpassed.
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As his brother it is hard to express in words what he has meant to me during my life, the bond we had was unique and very special.
He leaves behind an enormous legacy that will live on forever.
Malcolm, job well done.
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Despite his dementia, this still comes as a shock, and is sad to hear. An underrated musician who was such a huge part of AC/DC's songwriting and sound and management.
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*cranks up Whole Lotta Rosie* :metal :metal
R.I.P.
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Damn.
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There's something about that "Malcolm, job well done" at the end of the statement that makes it extra sad for me. A tremendous loss. RIP.
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Sad, really sad.
Malcom was the master of the simple yet effective, catchy and groovy guitar riffs. May he rest in peace and jam in heaven or hell, whichever is more fun.
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Did not enjoy literally waking up to this... RIP Malcolm. Thanks for all the rock.
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Dang, way too soon. Sorry to hear!
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We all can only hope to do something we love for so long, to say nothing of doing it at such a high level, and bringing joy to so many people. Thank you Malcolm.
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sad news
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Way too early. Rest in peace, Malcolm...
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Not surprising, but no less saddening. :(
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Did not enjoy literally waking up to this... RIP Malcolm. Thanks for all the rock.
Same. I woke up to a phone call from my friend telling me the news. Even though I was never a huge AC/DC fan, I have always considered Malcolm Young to be the greatest rhythm guitarist of all time (and this is coming from a guy who worships James Hetfield). Angus always got the attention, and he’s great as well, but I always felt that Malcolm was the heart and soul of that band. His riffs were catchy and memorable, and without his chords and riffs, Angus’ solos would not have been nearly as good. An absolutely brilliant musician. May he Rest In Peace.
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So finally digesting this, and this is a huge loss to the metal world. I like what Tom Keifer said: "This man inspired more rock & roll than the world will ever be able to measure. " So true.
To me, Malcolm was one of the coolest motherfuckers going. It's been a long time since I've seen AC/DC, but I saw them at least a half dozen times back in the day, and no lie, I was ALWAYS fixated on Malcolm.
In all of the concerts I've ever seen, one of my all time favorite visuals is of Malcolm and Cliff stepping off walking in unison to the front of the stage to do their background vocals. I used to think, oh no, they're not going to make it, and then bam, right on cue. Then they turn in unison to return to their places flanking the drum riser. Such precision. As much as Angus was the focal point, the unrelenting rhythms are what truly made AC/DC so special.
Watching the No Bull DVD this morning. It was great to see Phil Rudd return for this tour.
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Watching the Let There Be Rock DVD and this part jumped off the screen at me. It's the solo on Sin City. But what I love is Malcolm, Cliff, and Phil whaling away at the rhythm. Jump to 1:50.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gikKRv1hUjk
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His sound on "Hell's Bell's" is probably my favorite guitar sound of all time. Either that or Dirty Deeds (the album).
I'm going to try not to look at the picture that was included in the last album, with the two Young Brothers' guitars leaning against a Marshall half stack (and Angus's SG sort of leaning on Mal's Gretsch, implying that Mal was the real backbone). I know it'll make me cry.
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I know next to nothing about the band as people, but Phill Rudd seemed like a cool, down to earth guy. Shame he went way off the rails and couldn't close out the band's career with Cliff and Angus.
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I just want to repost some thoughts I posted to Facebook:
I would be amiss if I did not acknowledge the passing of Malcolm Young. AC/DC was a huge part of my musical journey growing up. I had been listening to mostly folk and easy listening stuff when a friend first showed me Back in Black. I was completely blown away. I had no idea my speakers could even do that. I spent the next few years being obsessed with AC/DC....even though I eventually moved on to more complex music, there was always something about the pounding rhythms, blues mentality, and bathroom wit of AC/DC. They sometimes get hassled for retreading the same sound over and over again (even Angus himself once joked that the idea they had released the same album 13 times was a bloody lie......it was 14 times. LOL) but I actually disagree. To my ears, there was a definite shift in the sound when Robert John "Mutt" Lange came on to produce Highway to Hell, Back in Black, and For Those About to Rock. Everything that AC/DC had been before that became streamlined. I think it was Mutt who was responsible for taking everything they were, and making them focus on a more verse/chorus/verse/chorus/solo/chorus/end mentality. And while I can't deny the amazing product of those albums, I really think some of the magic was lost from those first 5 albums (the original High Voltage, TNT, Dirty Deeds, Let There Be Rock, and Powerage). Gone were the extended solo sections. Gone were the extended intros (Soul Stripper). Gone were the multiple solo sections (Let There Be Rock). Gone were the song ending codas (Down Payment Blues). Gone were the mid-song breakdowns (Sin City).
But through it all, Malcolm Young was the understated leader of the band. The anchor that held it all together. AC/DC already hasn't put out a really good album in 20 years. (although every album has at least one or two songs that recapture the magic). But I really think Angus needs to consider letting the legacy die with dignity. But OTOH, I honestly don't understand why Angus doesn't at least try to go back to some of the more honest material of the early days. What does he really have to lose at this point? What is the worst that could happen if he decided to let things breathe a bit and have a little fun with it?
In closing, I share with you one of my favorite songs from what is absolutely my #1 all time favorite AC/DC album. I'm certain that at least 5 songs in my top 10 list come from Powerage. It is AC/DC perfection to my ears.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV70XXyiIao
I think my top 10 AC/DC songs would be:
1. Riff Raff
2. Soul Stripper
3. Down Payment Blues
4. Hell Ain't a Bad Place to Be
5. What's Next to the Moon
6. Let There Be Rock
7. Up to My Neck in You
8. Go Down
9. Rock n Roll Singer
10. Shake a Leg
And that's just off the top of my head. I'll probably have a different list. Because I feel like Kicked in the Teeth, Beating Around the Bush, Walk All Over You, Inject the Venom, Overdose, Gimme a Bullet, Can I Sit Next to You Girl, Squealer, and Gone Shootin should all be on there as well.
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I apologize for linking to Rolling Stone but this is a Must Read if you are an AC/DC fan.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/acdcs-brian-johnson-opens-up-about-malcolm-young-w512417
....Powerage love....
J-Dude, I can totally appreciate your love of Powerage. While I personally think Let there Be Rock is the Bon Era's tour de force, I think Powerage is magnificent. It's seems to be the forgotten album of the Bon Era.
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That's the most personal thing I've ever seen from any member of the AC/DC camp.
Are there any good unauthorized biographies out there that anyone knows of? Something tells me you will NEVER get an official story from the band that is anything up close.
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The contribution they have to the music industry is priceless. I still remember how my grandfather play their song on our pick-up truck when I was young. Long live AC/DC
RIP Sir Malcolm Young
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I wish I liked The Foo Fighters' music. They do such great stuff live.
Tribute to Malcolm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-1qjKdPIJw
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Mal's funeral was in Sydney today
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5123283/AC-DC-founder-Malcolm-Young-funeral-service-Sydney.html
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Let's have a laugh in this sad time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylLo4kjVts0&feature=youtu.be&t=37s
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That's awesome, Chris. He totally nails it.
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That picture of Angus holding Mal's guitar with both hands, clearly in tears, and ready to hand it to the priest is simply heart breaking.
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Yeah. Very sad.
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Some absolutely classic footage here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/rediscovered-acdc-footage-of-band-attempting/13676028
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Some absolutely classic footage here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/rediscovered-acdc-footage-of-band-attempting/13676028
This is wonderful! And with Mark no less!
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Has there ever been a professional live recording with Axl on vocal duties? I thought the yt clips of those concerts sounded amazing and would love to hear it on an actual release.
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Has there ever been a professional live recording with Axl on vocal duties? I thought the yt clips of those concerts sounded amazing and would love to hear it on an actual release.
There has not. But now that Brian is back, I would think that move would seem like a slight.
I’ll bet they sneak a couple of tracks onto what ever next “collection” they have planned. They are almost overdue for one of those.