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Dream Theater => Dream Theater => Topic started by: ori.elias5 on August 31, 2014, 01:11:22 AM
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Well, before the new DVD comes out i was wondering what is your own fav show so far?
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Budokan. Mainly because I feel like it has the best picture quality, feel/aesthetic, sound quality, etc. It also has the best setlist for me personally and the band was on fire that night. It just feels like it was professionally done and came out best. It also holds a special place in my heart because As I Am from that DVD was one of my first DT video experiences.
Score is great too, but for me, the sound quality isn't as strong as Budokan.
EDIT: I should say that if everything goes well, Breaking The Fourth Wall may be a contender for bumping Budokan from it's place.
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Budokan. Everything is great except maybe the setlist that is too much Train of Thought for my taste (understandable though since it was from that tour, but it is not one of their best albums IMHO).
Score would be a close 2nd.
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As an overall package, definitely Budokan for me. It had the best production values for video and audio, it had great special features, and a great setlist that got me into many of those songs and albums. And the band looked cool too. The only real weakness for me is that JLB wasn't at his best, but that mostly only affects the last few songs of the set for me.
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live at the marquee...but it's too short to be the best one overall, so i say Score, the setlist was awesome (missing just ACOS)
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My favorite DVD is Live in Tokyo, but that's not an option so I voted for Luna Park - great setlist and performance, even though the mix could've been handled better. Live Scenes is great, but unfortunately the full show isn't on the DVD and the effects are ridiculous. While Budokan and Score are amazing visually and the performances and extras are great, the song selections leave a lot to be desired, and as a result I rarely have the urge to watch either of them.
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Budokan. It was the band's first live album after I became a fan, and actually, their first new release after I became a fan (between LAB and TOT). I watched and listened to that show dozens and dozens of times in the wait until 8VM came out.
Solid set list, wonderful live performances with great jams and extended solos. It's very much a LIVE show set list, with all the extra stuff added, as well as the impressive "Instrumedley".
The video just looks great, as well, and one of their better looking shows, IMO.
EDIT - AFAIK, Live At The Marquee never got a video release, let alone a DVD release. Perhaps you meant Live In Tokyo? Same goes for OIALT - it should be Five Years In A LIVEtime. And LSFNY wasn't a DVD, but Metropolis 2000: Scenes From New York was, and it only had the SFAM set, as well as the songs from Disc 3 of LSFNY. Other videos from that show made it on to other places, though.
Otherwise, LAB, SCORE, CIM, and LALP are all correct. I guess if you really wanted to, you could also throw in the videos from the YtseJamRecords releases, like the 8VM Tour Santiago, Chile show, or the SDOIT show from Bucharest, Romania. There's also the When Dream And Day Reunite show, which would be one of my personal favorites.
-Marc.
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As just the concert, probably Budokan. It looks and sounds the best, and has a great setlist.
But Score has nostalgic value for me, because that was the only DT show I've been fortunate enough to attend. Also, I think the band was in better form on that one than any of the others.
But I love LSFNY and I&WLIT/5YIALT for the combination of song selection and commentaries.
So all of those are great for different reasons. There is no perfect or best one.
But Chaos in Motion is definitely the worst.
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None of them is perfect. James was weak on Budokan, he was at his best on Score, but that had a weird setlist and an out of tune orchestra, Live at Luna Park is a mess, Live Scenes is raw, which is its biggest advantage as well as disadvantage, depends on where you stand and the video effects make it look outdated. I don't much care for the rest. The looks and sound of Budokan place it a league above the rest. I have high hopes for the upcoming BtFW, it looks and sounds promising, plus the setlist is killer.
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Score. Amazing setlist, great performance, and some really awesome bonus features.
The new DVD has potential to beat it though. The setlist is slightly better I think.
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Wow. Surprised by the lack of love for Scenes in here. To me it blows every other live performance away. I enjoy Budokan as a package but the show itself is super flat.
I would say Scenes with I&WLIT/5YIALT a distant second, followed by Score.
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Budokan; the band plays really well, it looks and sounds great, has an awesome setlist (though I would have liked to see more Awake), and awesome extended sections of BTL and HY. The only flaw is James; some of his harsher vocals sound terrible, though he does well on songs like HY.
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My favorite DVD is Live in Tokyo, but that's not an option so I voted for Luna Park - great setlist and performance, even though the mix could've been handled better. Live Scenes is great, but unfortunately the full show isn't on the DVD and the effects are ridiculous. While Budokan and Score are amazing visually and the performances and extras are great, the song selections leave a lot to be desired, and as a result I rarely have the urge to watch either of them.
We agree for the most part. I thought I would be the only one to choose Luna Park.
Like you said, the mix could've been better but the setlist was killer. I also think this was by far their best stage show (although the new DVD may take its place). The editing can be annoying for prolonged periods of time but I think it is fine if you just take it on its own for one DVD.
Live Scenes is a close second for me.
I am probably wayyyyy in the minority here that thinks Budokan and Score aren't all that great. Kinda boring, to be honest. The extras are great but the stage show and set aren't my cup of tea.
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My favourite is probably Score. I definitely agree with this though:
None of them is perfect.
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I have high hopes for the upcoming BtFW, it looks and sounds promising, plus the setlist is killer.
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I say Luna Park for the sheer strenght of the setlist and performance. I am not bothered as others are by the mix or the flying dutchman shots, so it's really a near-perfect DVD for me.
On the opposite end, Chaos In Motion is most definitely the worst.
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Budokan or Score,ok Budokan.
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As far as DVD content goes, I'd pick anything with commentary. Live in Tokyo/5 Years Livetime/Scenes From NY. Heck When Dream and Day Re-Unite is awesome for that reason aswell. Does anyone know if Dark Side of the Moon had commentary? I definitely missed this feature from all the later releases.
But as far as performances go, I would possibly pick Live in Tokyo because there's something unique and energetic about their presence in those days. But properly considering all options, I honestly picked Luna Park. It was the first live release that I heavily anticipated and I really enjoy the setlist and production. I do however miss the extended jams and the floyd/metallica/yes/rush/purple/zeppelin etc. references that were found in a lot of their performances.
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Score....by a landslide
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Budokan and Score look the best, but are both dragged down a bit by the set lists not being overly great.
Live Scenes is awesome, but those goofy effects are distracting at times.
The first two are both great, but neither is an entire concert straight through.
Luna Park is great, despite a few issues with the sound (like the keys being too buried at key times). Tremendous set list, however.
Chaos in Motion is not even worth mentioning.
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Haha, I do like a lot of the songs on Chaos in Motion. The only problem is that it's Chaos in Motion... :laugh:
Still, it seems more popular than Livetime by the looks of things. And it scares me that's it's almost as popular as Luna Park. :omg:
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Live Scenes from new york for me since I was in the front row for that show.
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Does anyone know if Dark Side of the Moon had commentary? I definitely missed this feature from all the later releases.
It does not. But that DVD is still ridiculously awesome.
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Score. But the new one has the potential to be the very best.
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Score. But the new one has the potential to be the very best.
Exactly this. I have high hopes.
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Score it is for me. I think it's mainly due to James' killer performance. So energy, powa, and perfectly in tune all the time. The rest of the band is always performing on the same stellar level but Score is a high point vocalwise for sure.
I'm eagerly waiting for BTFW as well, the clip of The Looking Glass sounds and looks amazing!
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For me, the quality of a DT show is more or less defined by how well JLB is doing that night. Because of that, CiM is unlistenable, and LiT, M2000 & Score are the holy trinity. LiT captures the time period where JLB was at his peak, but my favorite JLB vocals are probably on M2000. ACoS is the band at their absolute peak. It never hurts that the band is still youthful and fun to watch with the added fun of seeing JR. Score has a pristine JLB but the band is middle-aged and boring, and the setlist is eh.
Metropolis 2000 is the best DVD IMO. I also haven't even touched on how much I adore DT commentaries.
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Score. But the new one has the potential to be the very best.
This. I was at both of these shows, and while nothing will top the nostalgia of being at Radio City, the fact that BTFW was filmed in my home-city plus all the Awake and Scenes songs (a lot of which were firsts for me) may take the trophy for best overall DVD. I guess which one I watch more will come down to what I want to hear: Six Degrees and Octavarium (Score) or Awake, Scenes, and DT12 (BTFW).
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As far as DVD content goes, I'd pick anything with commentary. Live in Tokyo/5 Years Livetime/Scenes From NY. Heck When Dream and Day Re-Unite is awesome for that reason aswell. Does anyone know if Dark Side of the Moon had commentary? I definitely missed this feature from all the later releases.
But as far as performances go, I would possibly pick Live in Tokyo because there's something unique and energetic about their presence in those days. But properly considering all options, I honestly picked Luna Park. It was the first live release that I heavily anticipated and I really enjoy the setlist and production. I do however miss the extended jams and the floyd/metallica/yes/rush/purple/zeppelin etc. references that were found in a lot of their performances.
Never knew that DVD had commentary. Thanks!!
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For me, the quality of a DT show is more or less defined by how well JLB is doing that night. Because of that, CiM is unlistenable, and LiT, M2000 & Score are the holy trinity. LiT captures the time period where JLB was at his peak, but my favorite JLB vocals are probably on M2000. ACoS is the band at their absolute peak. It never hurts that the band is still youthful and fun to watch with the added fun of seeing JR. Score has a pristine JLB but the band is middle-aged and boring, and the setlist is eh.
Metropolis 2000 is the best DVD IMO. I also haven't even touched on how much I adore DT commentaries.
These are my thoughts exactly...excellently articulated.
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Haha, I do like a lot of the songs on Chaos in Motion. The only problem is that it's Chaos in Motion... :laugh:
Still, it seems more popular than Livetime by the looks of things. And it scares me that's it's almost as popular as Luna Park. :omg:
Eh, I suspect that wouldn't be the case if everyone had to rank them in order, rather than just voting for your favorite.
Also, I think some are voting for the CD, which is listed, because of JLB's uneven vocal performance, instead of the DVD, 5 Years in a Livetime, where JLB's vocals are mostly very good.
In other words, confusing poll is confusing, since the title ask for favorite DVD, and then the poll lists CDs.
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As far as DVD content goes, I'd pick anything with commentary. Live in Tokyo/5 Years Livetime/Scenes From NY. Heck When Dream and Day Re-Unite is awesome for that reason aswell. Does anyone know if Dark Side of the Moon had commentary? I definitely missed this feature from all the later releases.
But as far as performances go, I would possibly pick Live in Tokyo because there's something unique and energetic about their presence in those days. But properly considering all options, I honestly picked Luna Park. It was the first live release that I heavily anticipated and I really enjoy the setlist and production. I do however miss the extended jams and the floyd/metallica/yes/rush/purple/zeppelin etc. references that were found in a lot of their performances.
Never knew that DVD had commentary. Thanks!!
That's definitely the best thing about it! It's double good for me, because it also means I don't have to actually listen to those songs. :biggrin:
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Haha, I do like a lot of the songs on Chaos in Motion. The only problem is that it's Chaos in Motion... :laugh:
Still, it seems more popular than Livetime by the looks of things. And it scares me that's it's almost as popular as Luna Park. :omg:
Eh, I suspect that wouldn't be the case if everyone had to rank them in order, rather than just voting for your favorite.
Also, I think some are voting for the CD, which is listed, because of JLB's uneven vocal performance, instead of the DVD, 5 Years in a Livetime, where JLB's vocals are mostly very good.
In other words, confusing poll is confusing, since the title ask for favorite DVD, and then the poll lists CDs.
:facepalm:
I made note of that in my above post, but no one else seemed to notice until now. I guess no one pays attention to details any more.
-Marc.
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LALP. Mainly because I feel like it has the best picture quality, feel/aesthetic, sound quality, etc. It also has the best setlist for me personally and the band was on fire those two nights. It just feels like it was professionally done and came out best. It also holds a special place in my heart because this tour was the first time I actually get to meet the entire band.
LSFNY is a close second and had been my fave for a long time. There are a lot of days where I might even still pick that one. I also hold Score in very high regard. But now that a good deal of time has passed, the novelty of the set list has worn off just a bit, and the fact that the orchestra was flat at times has come to slightly overshadow the awesomeness of having the orchestra. But still a great DVD. I would put LAB just a bit behind Score. It is a shame about the quality and performance selection on CiM, because the song selection as a whole on that tour was stellar.
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It is a shame about the quality and performance selection on CiM, because the song selection as a whole on that tour was stellar.
I agree, some of my favorite songs are performed on that DVD.
However....well, you know.
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
Excellent :tup
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I went with Live at Budoken for several reasons, set list, visuals, audio, etc... The total package is pretty great. Score is close though... Today its LaB, tomorrow it might be Score!
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
I love you so much.
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I know.
:iknow:
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*swoons*
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If it's not already part of the new DVD... do you think they'd have time to add a commentary prior to the release of Breaking the Fourth Wall, now that they are aware of how AWESOME they are??
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
:metal I LOVE LOVE LOVE them. So much cool insight.
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
Bosk, OUR VOICE!!
That's good to know. We also love Ytsejam Releases. maybe you could pass that on as well!
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LAB hands down. It has so energy, powa!
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Live at Budokan was magnificent. But the new DVD has the one of the greatest setlists ever and features a brand new JLB with a really strong voice! ;D So I expect that one being a fan-favourite quickly.
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
So is that a hint that one of the bonus features on the Boston show DVD might be...ya know...? :omg:
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I just Mangini'd
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Oh, and believe it or not, with Portnoy gone, the band was actually not aware of how much we LOVE commentaries. But they are now. :biggrin:
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
*fapfapfapd!!!!11*
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So I noticed that Bosk has not confirmed nor denied my suspicion. ;)
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Denied. But I would not rule it out in the future.
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FUCK! :facepalm:
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Budokan - best overall DVD in terms of audio and visual quality, editing and look/feel, performance, and setlist.
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Metropolis 2000 easily. Scenes From A Memory is the band's peak and playing it entirely is just wonderful.
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FUCK! :facepalm:
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Score.
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LSFNY for me. It was my introduction to the band, it is by far their best album, and MP's drum set is really cool :hat
Plus, Learning to Live and ACOS! :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Live at Budokan.
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Live At Budokan - I just thought the performances were above and beyond and top notch. Closely followed by Score because of dat setlist.
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Bucharest. Weak night for JLB, but that's been the case with most of the DVDs, IMO. Score is the obvious exception, but nostalgia aside Bucharest surpasses in the ways that matter.
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Bucharest. Weak night for JLB, but that's been the case with most of the DVDs, IMO. Score is the obvious exception, but nostalgia aside Bucharest surpasses in the ways that matter.
I wish they'd start again with the Ytsejam releases.
I personally love the Santiago '05 Ytsejam DVD. I love the small rig. Makes it feel Zepplinesque.
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Score.
Six Degrees, Octavarium, Spirit, Sacrificed Sons and Metropolis were all amazing to me. Sacrificed Sons gave me goosebumps with the orchestra!
I absolutely loved the live orchestra, and James sounded amazing. The mix sounded great IMO, and everything looked so awesome at Radio City Music Hall.
A close second would have to be Budoken. Hollow Years and In The Name Of God were 2 personal favs. I am also a big fan of Train of Thought, so the set list was great.
Luna Park disappointed me (for reasons most of us are aware of), mainly because it was the tour for ADToE, which is my second favorite DT album. I can only wish that Score had the Luna Park set list. It would be incredible.
Live Scenes had my favorite overall set list though, seeing as how SFaM is my favorite album and they played it in its entirety. I liked the DVD, but it was just a bit too raw for me. I am very OCD about sour notes and mess-ups. I wish that didn't bother me as much :(
Boston has the set list and credentials (from what I've heard thus far) to be among the best. I can't wait!!!
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If LSfNY was better produced it would trump all.
Unfortunately, most of the time the band appears to be playing on a soundstage, plus the effects, picture quality, and hair show their age and the missing songs are a bit glaring. Plus the projection filmmakers had Julian gasp when there's a female gasp sound effect and that's just distracting.
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I voted LSFNY for it's raw quality, and overall the fact it was the album from start to finish....but Live at Budokan is perfect I love the instrumedley (first time I heard Hell's Kitchen), the commentary and the behind the scenes stuff especially the guy asking JP if he is playing Dream Theater. Score was excellent as well. We really have been spoilt with some great releases!!!! :smiley:
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When for the love of God will we get a blu-ray of SCORE????????????????????????????
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I would fucking love that given how much the DVD format kills the picture quality of Score.
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Budokan, partly down to nostalgia as it was my first visual experience of DT, but also because I genuinely love the setlist, production style and atmosphere. ToT is one of my favourite albums, and easily one of the best DT songs (anyone see what I did there?), the instrumedley is amazing and ITNOG is an absolutely epic closer, possibly the greatest ending to any of their shows ever in my opinion.
From a quality standpoint, you could easily argue that Score is so superior - LAB certainly has it's imperfections, but it's really hard to find any fault with Score whatsoever from a technical point of view. For me, though, it's just one or two strange (IMO) setlist choices that I don't really understand that keep it away from the top spot in my mind.
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"Live at the Marquee" available on dvd ?? :justjen
Of course... :yeahright
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But not Images & Words live in Tokyo.
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1. LSFNY: They played my favorite album in its entirety. It has an almost amateurish quality (not as slick as some of their later DVDs) to it that I liked, especially with the videos and effects. The performance and the crowd was top notch. Theresa Thompson was great. The full-band The Silent Man kicked ass, especially LaBrie's high singing at the end. It only sagged a little with Acid Rain and Jordan's keyboard solo, both of which seemed completely out of place.
2. Score: DT was arguably in their prime here. The setlist was a nice survey of their career up to that point, although I didn't need Raise the Knife or Another Won. The orchestra added greatly to the experience, especially with Six Degrees. And the career-spanning documentary included in the bonus section was a welcome addition.
3. LAB: Probably the heaviest of their DVDs, because of the TOT-centric setlist. The band just played like beasts on this one.
4. Live in Tokyo: I was probably most excited for this one because my friends and I had just become fans of the band and were playing I&W nonstop. None of us had WD&DU yet, so the non-I&W songs were brand new to us. We actually thought the individuals in the band were cool (except for maybe the overbearing Portnoy) in the offstage footage, which if you remember, the grunge frontmen of the time were total douches. I actually bought this on VHS and upgraded to DVD years later with the two-pack.
5. LALP: The only thing holding this back is the ADTOE-centric playlist. I know I'm in the minority, but it's one of my least favorite DT albums. The performance was great, LaBrie was the best maybe he's ever been on a live recording. I was thrilled that James sang (on Metropolis) "without sorrow" the same as he did on I&W, which he never did any of the times I saw them live or on any of their other live recordings.
6. CIM: The biggest problem with this release was that James screamed his way through the whole concert, which was a shame because it would have ranked higher thanks to the good setlist. I was also not a fan of the never-ending Surrounded on this one.
7. 5 Years: I really only liked the band commentary on this one (and the fact that it came with Live in Tokyo). This was the darkest period in the band's history, even from an outsider's point of view. The FIF songs sucked, for the most part, though not as much as the songs that didn't make the album but were still played on the fanclub shows (Rotterdam and Paris). Portnoy even said that the record company made him cut a ton out, and we were left with snippets of better things (the performances with the other musicians, Nightmare Cinema, etc.) than were actually left in their entirety.
I can't rate BT4W because I don't have the visual component yet, only the iTunes tracks, which I think are excellent. I did see the truncated hour version on Palladia, but it's not enough to fairly rank the whole thing among the others. I'm guessing it would fall somewhere between Score and CIM.