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Title: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on August 21, 2014, 05:30:15 PM
...is with your eyes closed. Close your eyes when the hypnotherapist says so, and don't open them until the instruction at the beginning of Finally Free. Also, if possible, listen with the lights turned off. Has anyone actually done this?
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: TheGreatPretender on August 21, 2014, 05:34:14 PM
Oh hell yeah. Not only that, but I listened to it in such a way on Vinyl. I could've met Nicholas' fate at the end, and it would've been good.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Kotowboy on August 21, 2014, 05:39:58 PM
When I lived on my own on my last house for a few months ( nobody else was renting the other rooms ) -

- I totally put on Black Clouds & Silver Linings on the stereo downstairs and listened to the entire thing with the lights out at night.

Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: cramx3 on August 21, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
In college, my friends and I would listen while we drank and read through the lyrics and the song summaries on wikipedia while listening to understand what was going on.  Everyone who did this was always in shock of how awesome the story and album where although most of them never got into Dream Theater or were into metal/progressive music, but always thought the experience was amazing.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: PROGdrummer on August 21, 2014, 06:53:24 PM
...is with your eyes closed. Close your eyes when the hypnotherapist says so, and don't open them until the instruction at the beginning of Finally Free. Also, if possible, listen with the lights turned off. Has anyone actually done this?

This is exactly how I listened to the album my very first time. It was a life changing experience.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: dparrott on August 22, 2014, 01:12:00 PM
This is one of the few rock albums where I turn the bass up.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: tiagodon on August 22, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
How did Victoria die anyway?
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: 425 on August 22, 2014, 01:36:33 PM
Edward shot her.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: tiagodon on August 22, 2014, 02:02:41 PM
Maybe Julian shot her!
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: 425 on August 22, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
No, it's pretty definitive. Edward shot her and then killed Julian too. Then he faked a suicide note and put it on Julian's body and pretended to be a witness.

The opening verse of Finally Free, credited to Edward, confirms all this:

"Sole survivor
No witness to the crime
I must act fast to cover up
I think that there's still time"
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: tiagodon on August 22, 2014, 02:17:02 PM
What if the "cover up" part is related to Edward killing Julian, not to Edward killing Victoria?

Ok, ok, I think you are right.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Evermind on August 22, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
In fact, I did this twice. The first time it was an amazing experience, but the second time I did this I was too tired after a busy working day, so I fell asleep during Through Her Eyes.  :lol
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Grizz on August 22, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
Julian and Victoria were married but Julian wouldn't stop gambling, snorting, and drinking, so she sought Edwards comfort and pork. Then Julian reformed and she secretly got back together with him, but Edward found them and killed them. He made Julian out to be the killer and himself out to be the witness.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Tomislav95 on August 22, 2014, 05:41:20 PM
Julian and Victoria were married but Julian wouldn't stop gambling, snorting, and drinking, so she sought Edwards comfort and pork. Then Julian reformed and she secretly got back together with him, but Edward found them and killed them. He made Julian out to be the killer and himself out to be the witness.
Televisa presenta
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: The Letter M on August 23, 2014, 12:36:26 AM
The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...

...is with my personal remix of the Bottrill mixes from The Making Of SFAM, mixed in with bits from the final mix of the album by Shirley, creating a longer and more complete version of the album, with a longer Intro/Regression, the opening lyrics to "Fatal Tragedy", the longer version of "Through Her Eyes", and the complete ending to "Finally Free" (with the final mix's ending mixed afterwards). Paste it all together, cut into 9 scenes, and BOOM...the only way I listen to SFAM now. There's no going back to any other version.

-Marc.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 23, 2014, 09:09:31 AM
Listened to it while bowling yesterday afternoon. It was awesome!

Until I got to TDOE and it threw my groove off.




Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: PROGdrummer on August 23, 2014, 10:06:43 AM
The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...

...is with my personal remix of the Bottrill mixes from The Making Of SFAM, mixed in with bits from the final mix of the album by Shirley, creating a longer and more complete version of the album, with a longer Intro/Regression, the opening lyrics to "Fatal Tragedy", the longer version of "Through Her Eyes", and the complete ending to "Finally Free" (with the final mix's ending mixed afterwards). Paste it all together, cut into 9 scenes, and BOOM...the only way I listen to SFAM now. There's no going back to any other version.

-Marc.

Where/how can I get said version? How do I go about obtaining these missing parts?
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: James Mypetgiress on August 23, 2014, 10:09:42 AM
IMO, with earplugs in. I don't like it!
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: King Postwhore on August 23, 2014, 08:25:02 PM
IMO, with earplugs in. I don't like it!

We are not a match. :lol
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: James Mypetgiress on August 24, 2014, 12:12:48 PM
IMO, with earplugs in. I don't like it!

We are not a match. :lol

Yeah. I'm very much the forum outcast, aren't I!
 :sad:
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 24, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
IMO, with earplugs in. I don't like it!

We are not a match. :lol

Yeah. I'm very much the forum outcast, aren't I!
 :sad:


Don't worry. I was like you once but with some rehabilitation and a couple minor to major surgeries... I changed. 


You can too.


The first step is admitting you want to change.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: BlobVanDam on August 24, 2014, 10:38:14 PM
The first step is admitting you want to change.

The first step is to close your eyes, and begin to relax........
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Rodni Demental on August 24, 2014, 11:36:54 PM
I generally listen to SFAM when I'm at work, or when I'm driving... I don't know if this method would be very safe for me.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: James Mypetgiress on August 25, 2014, 04:39:38 AM
IMO, with earplugs in. I don't like it!

We are not a match. :lol

Yeah. I'm very much the forum outcast, aren't I!
 :sad:


Don't worry. I was like you once but with some rehabilitation and a couple minor to major surgeries... I changed. 


You can too.


The first step is admitting you want to change.

Change is bad. I'm fine with being alone, rocking back and forth in the corner
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 25, 2014, 06:29:39 AM
Let Victoria in to your heart...
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: James Mypetgiress on August 25, 2014, 11:43:33 AM
Let Victoria in to your heart...
I don't have a heart
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 25, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
gtfo

you fucking zombie
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: PROGdrummer on August 25, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...

...is with my personal remix of the Bottrill mixes from The Making Of SFAM, mixed in with bits from the final mix of the album by Shirley, creating a longer and more complete version of the album, with a longer Intro/Regression, the opening lyrics to "Fatal Tragedy", the longer version of "Through Her Eyes", and the complete ending to "Finally Free" (with the final mix's ending mixed afterwards). Paste it all together, cut into 9 scenes, and BOOM...the only way I listen to SFAM now. There's no going back to any other version.

-Marc.

Where/how can I get said version? How do I go about obtaining these missing parts?

I'd still like to know what this is, btw  :lol
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: James Mypetgiress on August 25, 2014, 03:42:21 PM
gtfo

you fucking zombie
I don't understand. If I translate that, what I get is: you sexing zombie.
People using words wrong makes me feel nothing. That is largely because I'm a zombie. However, I'm not a sexing zombie.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: The Letter M on August 25, 2014, 03:51:43 PM
The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...

...is with my personal remix of the Bottrill mixes from The Making Of SFAM, mixed in with bits from the final mix of the album by Shirley, creating a longer and more complete version of the album, with a longer Intro/Regression, the opening lyrics to "Fatal Tragedy", the longer version of "Through Her Eyes", and the complete ending to "Finally Free" (with the final mix's ending mixed afterwards). Paste it all together, cut into 9 scenes, and BOOM...the only way I listen to SFAM now. There's no going back to any other version.

-Marc.

Where/how can I get said version? How do I go about obtaining these missing parts?

I'd still like to know what this is, btw  :lol

Go to ytsejamrecords and you'll find The Making Of Scenes From A Memory. It's a 2-disc set, and the second disc is the entire David Bottrill mixes of the album, the original mixes to be precise. Shirley came in later and did some remixes, most of which appear on the final released album.

The original mix had some parts that were mixed out, like an opening scene that included more before/with "Regression", a different mix/ending of "Through Her Eyes", etc. etc. All I did was take those tracks from TMOSFAM and made my own album by splicing in parts from the final album (spoken lines at the end of "Fatal Tragedy", the closing scene after "Finally Free", the opening dialogue in "Finally Free") with the Bottrill mixes, made my own version of "Regression" with the "Opening Scene" and Bottrill's "Regression". Here's what my final track list looks like:

1. Scene One - Regression (2:26)
2. Scene Two - Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu (8:44)
3. Scene Three - Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (8:12)
4. Scene Four - Beyond This Life (11:22)
5. Scene Five - Through Her Eyes (6:03)
6. Scene Six - Home (12:56)
7. Scene Seven - The Dance Of Eternity/One Last Time (10:00)
8. Scene Eight - The Spirit Carries On (6:39)
9. Scene Nine - Finally Free (12:42)
Total - 79:04

The only version of the album I ever listen to anymore, my own personal version! :tup

-Marc.
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: Scorpion on August 25, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
Marc, is there any album in your collection for which you don't have a personal remix?
Title: Re: The Best Way to Listen to SFAM...
Post by: The Letter M on August 25, 2014, 03:56:38 PM
Marc, is there any album in your collection for which you don't have a personal remix?

LOL It's true that I do play around with a lot of track lists and song orders, particularly albums with split tracks (DT's own SC is a good case) or bonus tracks that were released later on/separately (PT's FOABP + NR, for example), but playing with albums is a small exception. This one just happened because of the different mixes made available and I just enjoyed hearing everything in the original mix, but I liked the final mix too, so I made my own that gave me the best of both worlds!

-Marc.