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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Nekov on April 15, 2014, 02:46:19 PM
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This is a sad sad day for Rock & Roll :'(
https://theorstrahyun.blogspot.com.au/2014/04/rip-acdc-1973-2014.html (https://theorstrahyun.blogspot.com.au/2014/04/rip-acdc-1973-2014.html)
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I'm absolutely thunderstrucked. Truly one of the greatest acts :-[
I can't think any other rock guitarist who had more fun playing that instrument than Angus Young
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It's about time.
*runs*
Nah, I've always liked their big hits, but I'm really just sick and tired of hearing them.
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That's not really the sad part when you read:
More than a month ago, founding member, rhythm guitarist, co-producer and co-songwriter Malcolm Young had a stroke, which left a blood clot on his brain.
Thanks for the music guys. :metal
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I hadn't heard that. jeesh..sorry to hear.
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Sad to hear about Malcolm.
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My favorite visual from seeing AC/DC was Malcolm and Cliff Williams coming up to the front of the stage for background vocals.
They'd start walking up at exactly the same time. I would keep thinking, they're never going to make it, and then, bang, dead on timing.
Then they'd turn in unison and walk to the rear of the stage to their spots in front of their amps as is nothing had ever happened. :lol
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My favorite visual from seeing AC/DC was Malcolm and Cliff Williams coming up to the front of the stage for background vocals.
They'd start walking up at exactly the same time. I would keep thinking, they're never going to make it, and then, bang, dead on timing.
Then they'd turn in unison and walk to the rear of the stage to their spots in front of their amps as is nothing had ever happened. :lol
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Yup. Haven't seen them in 25 years, but that's what I remember as well.
Kind of mixed feelings about the whole thing (excepting Malcolm who I have nothing but high regards for). On the one hand, Back in Black was one of the three albums that set me down the path of heavy metal, rather than say, country or some shit. AC/DC was also the first concert I ever saw (with the mighty Fastway opening up). That really blew my mind. At the same time I haven't cared for anything they've done in ages and Bryan Johnson can't really pull off his vocals live so them calling it a career doesn't really bother me much.
One thing I've noticed in keeping up with the news reports is that Malcolm Young is really the center of this whole story and yet every article you open up has a picture of Angus and a picture of Angus/Johnson. Nobody ever bothered taking any pictures of the other guys.
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That article says nothing is confirmed....and furthermore, this denial was issued a few hours later...
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6053874/acdc-not-quitting-retirement-rumors?utm_source=twitter
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That article says nothing is confirmed....and furthermore, this denial was issued a few hours later...
https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6053874/acdc-not-quitting-retirement-rumors?utm_source=twitter
Yup. Angus, then Angus and Johnson. :lol
Anyhoo, as I just posted elsewhere, there's definitely something going on. It might not be as serious as the rumors suggest, but it's not a non-event either. They cancelled a project a few months ago due to a health situation and asked for privacy. Sounds to me like somebody let some details slip.
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regardless of what happens, the band has always been a class act and has had an outstanding run.
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Now that original article has been updated again, and RE-insisting that it is true...even claiming that an official announcement is expected within the next day or two.
I feel really sad for the entire Young family and Malcolm's immediate family in particular if this is true. :'(
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regardless of what happens, the band has always been a class act and has had an outstanding run.
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regardless of what happens, the band has always been a class act and has had an outstanding run.
Indeed. Aren't most of the band somewhere around the mid 60's ?
Plus they've been going for 41 years.
It was going to happen sooner or later - it's just a shame it happened how it has.
Life is so unfair sometimes when it just "decides" things for you.
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Even if they were going to retire soon, it would be sad to have it end this way, on such a sad note. As pointed out, you always see Angus/Brian, but Malcolm is perhaps the unsung hero of the band, and if he can't play, it would only be right to not continue on.
But they've had a long and impressive run at a consistent level, and their legacy will carry on, so they can be proud of that.
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Very sad if true. I saw them for the first time just before Bon Scott died; and I've seen them about 8 times since. Always a great show. I can remember the day Back in Black came out. Me and two friends drove to the store and I bought the album. We smoked a joint and drove to my friend Kerrys house where his parents weren't home, put the needle on the record, cranked it up and were blown away. We were so high when Hells Bells came on, we were in awe and reverence because of Bons passing. :lol My friend Bruce upon hearing that first bell said, "Thats for Bon Scott!" and our friend Jeff teared up. We all lost it laughing, and razzed him so hard, we had to start the album over. Everytime an AC/DC song came on the radio from then on, in Jeff's presence, someone would say, "Everybody, look out. Jeff's gonna cry!"
Would love to see them one more time. But more importantly hope MY is okay.
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I feel really sad for the entire Young family and Malcolm's immediate family in particular if this is true. :'(
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This whole time I thought everyone was talking about Angus Young.
I'm not that knowledgable about AC/DC members.
That's the one I see as irreplaceable. But who writes the songs ?
Angus is the one I think of when I think of AC/DC...
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This whole time I thought everyone was talking about Angus Young.
I'm not that knowledgable about AC/DC members.
That's the one I see as irreplaceable. But who writes the songs ?
Angus is the one I think of when I think of AC/DC...
I'm not big on AC/DC, but I think Malcom is the biggest part in the songwriting of the bands songs. Sure, anyone can play his parts, but IMO he's just a crucial as Angus.
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IIRC Angus and Malcolm did it all together, with Scott/Johnson also contributing lyrics. So yes, Malcolm was as much a part of that process as Angus.
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IIRC Angus and Malcolm did it all together, with Scott/Johnson also contributing lyrics. So yes, Malcolm was as much a part of that process as Angus.
Cool. For some reason I though Malcom did a lot more than Angus in the songwriting department. Not sure why I though that.
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Fantastic story, TempusVox. :lol
If this is the case, it's truly unfortunate that they have to put an end to their career this way, but still, they had quite a run.
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To use a KISS comparison we keep hearing lately, Gene is the face of KISS and Paul Stanley is the soul of the band.
Angus may be the face of AC/DC, but Malcolm is its soul. There is no AC/DC without Malcolm -- he's the equal if not greater songwriter to Angus and the undisputed leader of the band since it's early days when brother George also steered them.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/10769783/ACDC-We-are-not-retiring.html
" We're Not Retiring ".
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Honestly, I didn't know they were still active.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/music-news/10769783/ACDC-We-are-not-retiring.html
" We're Not Retiring ".
:lol
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I pretty much saw that coming. :lol
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Not sure why that's funny but ok :)
After forty years of life dedicated to AC/DC, guitarist and founding member Malcolm Young is taking a break from the band due to ill health. Malcolm would like to thank the group’s diehard legions of fans worldwide for their never-ending love and support.
In light of this news, AC/DC asks that Malcolm and his family’s privacy be respected during this time. The band will continue to make music.
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Let's hope that is really the case and not just the guys trying to extend the inevitable. My best wishes to Malcolm for his recovery :smiley:
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So essentially they're carrying on without him for a bit ?
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https://www.bravewords.com/news/221043
Bart, this story actually includes a pic of Malcolm! :D
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I guess it's their decision to make, but I'm surprised they would continue without Malcolm. He's been the foundation of the band.
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I thought this would be another one of the countless fake news about AC/DC retiring which started to come up since the internet became more widespread - 95 or 96, when they finished touring the Ballbreaker album. But I guess the news about Malcolm are true then. I never thought they would decide to carry on without him, even though they have toured before whilst he was in rehab, in 1988 (Blow Up Your Video Tour).
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Quote from their FB page:
After forty years of life dedicated to AC/DC, guitarist and founding member Malcolm Young is taking a break from the band due to ill health. Malcolm would like to thank the group’s diehard legions of fans worldwide for their never-ending love and support.
In light of this news, AC/DC asks that Malcolm and his family’s privacy be respected during this time. The band will continue to make music.
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Not surprised. With a 40th anniversary tour supposedly on their horizon, they aren't just gonna ditch that big of a payday.
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Changed the thread title to accommodate for the situation
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Not surprised. With a 40th anniversary tour supposedly on their horizon, they aren't just gonna ditch that big of a payday.
That makes $ense. One last big one perhaps.
I would love to see KK Downing fill in.
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I would love to see KK Downing fill in.
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Pretty disappointed to see that. They'd said in the past that Malcolm was irreplaceable and there'd be no AC/DC without him. Furthermore, if they were carrying on as sort of a Clive Burr thing to make much needed money for his care then I could see it. As co-writer of the second best selling album of all time I seriously doubt the guy needs any assistance. This actually applies to all of them. Hell, I'd be surprised if even Phil and Cliff weren't filthy stinking rich. I don't see any reason for a cash grab, and a farewell tour without him would be disrespectful.
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Brian Johnson speaks!
https://www.bravewords.com/news/221051
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Pretty disappointed to see that. They'd said in the past that Malcolm was irreplaceable and there'd be no AC/DC without him. Furthermore, if they were carrying on as sort of a Clive Burr thing to make much needed money for his care then I could see it. As co-writer of the second best selling album of all time I seriously doubt the guy needs any assistance. This actually applies to all of them. Hell, I'd be surprised if even Phil and Cliff weren't filthy stinking rich. I don't see any reason for a cash grab, and a farewell tour without him would be disrespectful.
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To be fair nobody here knows what the true situation is and it's possible the band has made multiple commitments that they
don't feel comfortable breaking. Adding to that the realization that they are all getting along in age and this is likely the last
chance they all have. I'm sure they had multiple meetings spread out over many months and came to the conclusion this was
the best course of action.
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I'm sure they were committed to some stuff, but I'm guessing that their contracts had clauses to protect them in cases of "natural disasters" or "personnel issues" etc.
If not, they should fire their manager :justjen
I have a lot of fond memories that are tied to this band. First time I ever got laid was while listening to "Shoot to Thrill" on the car stereo. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/pics/bsmoke.gif)
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I also find it pretty surprising that they possibly look to continue without him, I wonder who they will get.
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If memory serves, the only other time Malcolm had to sit out his son Scotty filled in.
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Mike Portnoy could fill in :neverusethis:
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If memory serves, the only other time Malcolm had to sit out his son Scotty filled in.
This would be both appropriate and touching.
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If not, I'll settle for Steve Young.
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Yeah, Malcom's son would be a great choice. :tup
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Would love to see them again. It has been about 30 years since I last saw the show. By the way, Black Ice is a great cd for those that have not listened.
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If memory serves, the only other time Malcolm had to sit out his son Scotty filled in.
Nephew Stevie, I thought. My understanding is that nobody even noticed.
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If memory serves, the only other time Malcolm had to sit out his son Scotty filled in.
Nephew Stevie, I thought. My understanding is that nobody even noticed.
It was, and yes, no one apparently noticed.
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By the way, Black Ice is a great cd for those that have not listened.
Yeah it was decent. At 15 tracks, there was a healthy bit of filler, but if you got it down to 10, it would be a lot better.
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Black Ice was OK. I preferred Stiff Upper Lip.
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It makes sense that they would carry on. I can remember when Bon died and everybody thought they were done. People wondered how can they go on without their frontman? He was after all the voice of the band. And their statement then was basically thst, no one member was bigger than the band. Then they went out hired Brian Johnson and crafted what is arguably one of the best hard rock albums ever.
So, I would think Malcolm would want them to keep playing.
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I think the comparison with Bon's death is severely flawed. When Bon died, they were only 4 years together and were just breaking big on the international scene. In contrast, the current lineup has been together for 35 years and at this point everybody was expecting the closing of the curtains anyway.
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Black Ice was OK. I preferred Stiff Upper Lip.
I thought Stiff Upper Lip, and Ballbreaker for that matter, were terrible.
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Black Ice was OK. I preferred Stiff Upper Lip.
I thought Stiff Upper Lip, and Ballbreaker for that matter, were terrible.
The last time they had an album I loved from start to finish was Blow Up Your Video. Even The Razor's Edge is vastly over-rated, and only gets praise because of the title track and the hit singles. The rest of the album honestly isn't that good.
I agree that Ballbreaker wasn't that great either. I think I like 3 songs. But I actually enjoy about half of Stiff Upper Lip. The title track, Meltdown, Hold Me Back, Safe in NYC, Can't Stand Still, and Satellite Blues are all great tunes.
Black Ice wasn't terrible...just felt "phoned in". After three or four spins, I only had 4 or 5 tracks out of 15 stand out. Stormy May Day and War Machine seem to stand out in my memory. RnR Train was pretty cool.
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The last time they had an album I loved from start to finish was Blow Up Your Video. Even The Razor's Edge is vastly over-rated, and only gets praise because of the title track and the hit singles. The rest of the album honestly isn't that good.
I agree with you 100% on BOTH accounts. I still listen to Blow Up Your Video. Criminally underrated.
Black Ice wasn't terrible...just felt "phoned in". After three or four spins, I only had 4 or 5 tracks out of 15 stand out. Stormy May Day and War Machine seem to stand out in my memory. RnR Train was pretty cool.
I'm glad that you didn't ask me which songs I would cut out, because frankly, I couldn't even name the songs I liked! :lol
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The last time they had an album I loved from start to finish was Blow Up Your Video. Even The Razor's Edge is vastly over-rated, and only gets praise because of the title track and the hit singles. The rest of the album honestly isn't that good.
I agree that Ballbreaker wasn't that great either. I think I like 3 songs. But I actually enjoy about half of Stiff Upper Lip. The title track, Meltdown, Hold Me Back, Safe in NYC, Can't Stand Still, and Satellite Blues are all great tunes.
Black Ice wasn't terrible...just felt "phoned in". After three or four spins, I only had 4 or 5 tracks out of 15 stand out. Stormy May Day and War Machine seem to stand out in my memory. RnR Train was pretty cool.
I agree with you about Razor's Edge, Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice, but I never liked Blow Up Your Video. To me it was always one of their absolute worst albums...I'd even prefer to listen to Flick of the Switch, Fly on the Wall, or High Voltage (the Australian version) than BUYV. :lol. Ballbreaker, I really liked that one though, it's easily my favourite of their post-1981 albums.
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I've always thought Fly on the Wall was a real under-rated classic. The production is a bit spotty (I believe it was the first and only time that Angus and Malcolm attempted to do it on their own) but what I love about it is that Simon tried to do something different on the drums. His original intro for Shake Your Foundations (which was subsequently scrapped and re-recorded for the Who Made Who album) was really cool and very different for an AC/DC album. I was absolutely addicted to Fly on the Wall when it came out, and I was really sorry to see it ultimately fail. :mehlin
Re: Blow Up Your Video....I think you're missing out. Nick of Time, Some Sin for Nothin and Meanstreak in particular are FANTASTIC AC/DC songs....not to mention the two fantastic singles Heatseeker and That's the Way I Wanna RNR.
EDIT: I also wanted to add that the Fly on the Wall home video was seriously one of the coolest things the band ever did. It's no secret that the band themselves have never been fond of music videos, which is why the early stuff just tended to be live footage for FTATR, and then studio/warehouse footage for FOTS. But whoever put the FOTW home video together was just brilliant. Subsequent videos were pretty cheezy...downright silly actually...
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The last time they had an album I loved from start to finish was Blow Up Your Video. Even The Razor's Edge is vastly over-rated, and only gets praise because of the title track and the hit singles. The rest of the album honestly isn't that good.
I agree that Ballbreaker wasn't that great either. I think I like 3 songs. But I actually enjoy about half of Stiff Upper Lip. The title track, Meltdown, Hold Me Back, Safe in NYC, Can't Stand Still, and Satellite Blues are all great tunes.
Black Ice wasn't terrible...just felt "phoned in". After three or four spins, I only had 4 or 5 tracks out of 15 stand out. Stormy May Day and War Machine seem to stand out in my memory. RnR Train was pretty cool.
I agree with you about Razor's Edge, Stiff Upper Lip and Black Ice, but I never liked Blow Up Your Video. To me it was always one of their absolute worst albums...I'd even prefer to listen to Flick of the Switch, Fly on the Wall, or High Voltage (the Australian version) than BUYV. :lol. Ballbreaker, I really liked that one though, it's easily my favourite of their post-1981 albums.
And furthermore.... (seems I just can't shut up about AC/DC now. :lol ) I will say this about Ballbreaker. I had *VERY* high expectations for that album. At that time, Rick Rubin was a producing guru. (he has since, shown his major flaws) And the first AC/DC - Rick Rubin pairing had produced Big Guns, which I thought was absolutely incredible. So when I heard they were making an entire album together, I was expecting Back In Black 2. When I picked it up, I liked the first two tracks, and Honey Roll (man, I wish they'd bring that one back...GREAT tune). Nothing else grabbed me AT ALL. But maybe I'll have to go back and give it a spin to see if time has been kinder to it. Loved the artwork in the booklet of that album though...possibly the best artwork in any AC/DC album ever.
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Re: Blow Up Your Video....I think you're missing out. Nick of Time, Some Sin for Nothin and Meanstreak in particular are FANTASTIC AC/DC songs....not to mention the two fantastic singles Heatseeker and That's the Way I Wanna RNR.
I remember liking Meanstreak a bit, but don't remember the others at all. I think the ship has well and truly sailed regarding my building an appreciation for it now, though. I listened to a few albums last week in response to reading this thread, but that was the first time in over a decade that I'd listened to an AC/DC album at all. :lol I was a big fan in my early highschool days around 1998-2001, AC/DC were actually my first favourite band, where I went and got all of their albums. These days though I usually only listen to a couple of individual songs a year, at most.
On Ballbreaker, Hail Caesar and Caught With Your Pants Down are only songs I never really liked on it, so it's a very consistent album for me.