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Title: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on March 23, 2014, 09:31:15 PM
*NOTE: If you're still waiting to see the current setlist live without spoilers, this thread is not for you*










Just for fun, I was wondering which songs people would add/remove from the current setup. Would you keep the Awake/SFAM segments so long? No ADToE at all? All of DT12? WDADU Anniversary spot? etc.


I've had this set in my library for a while that I think would be a great set for this tour. It covers 9 albums and is the same length as the current set:

Set 1
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Glass Prison
--JLB says hi--
Just Let Me Breathe
Only A Matter Of Time
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Mirror/
Lie
--JLB mentions Awake's anniversary and introduces Space Dye Vest--
Space Dye Vest
In the Name of God
-------------------------
Set 2
Overture 1928/
Strange Deja Vu
--JLB mentions SFAM's anniversary and introduces TDoE--
The Dance of Eternity/
Bridges in the Sky (End of TDoE would slide right into where JP kicks in with the opening riff)
Behind the Veil
On the Backs of Angels/
Surrender to Reason (End of OtBoA would go right into it like they did with WIMH on the ADToE tour)
Illumination Theory
----------------------
Encore:
Take the Time w/ extended jam
Easter Egg

Also, they'd have to drop the "Along For the Ride" tour name since I left the song out.


Also worth noting I love the current set. This thread's just for fun.



Discuss!
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Anguyen92 on March 23, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
If Enigma Machine and The Looking Glass is replaced for two of the three other tracks not played yet from the self-titled, that would be great.  I would like it as well if The Enemy Inside and Along For the Ride was replaced but that's not happening in this tour.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cyberdrummer on March 24, 2014, 03:59:38 AM
That's a very cool set. Not sure TGP quite fits in that position though.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: aprilethereal on March 24, 2014, 05:58:56 AM
Really looking forward to some changes for the second Euro leg. TGP instead of TSF would be pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Sycsa on March 24, 2014, 07:11:00 AM
If Enigma Machine and The Looking Glass is replaced for two of the three other tracks not played yet from the self-titled, that would be great.  I would like it as well if The Enemy Inside and Along For the Ride was replaced but that's not happening in this tour.
I wouldn't hold my breath for the first two either since TLG is a single with a music video and EM is an instrumental with that cool cartoon clip to boot, not to mention it encompasses the drum solo. The only song I'm really missing from DT12 is Behind The Veil.
TGP instead of TSF would be pretty awesome.
Indeed, and we'd be one step closer to the perfect setlist. Another giant leap would be the inclusion of TTT (complete with the "Unbroken spirits" section, I'm positive James could slay it nowadays) while dropping the entire Awake chunk along with OTBOA in favor of ACOS, 8VM, LTL and BTL.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: mirko_metal_88 on March 24, 2014, 07:15:22 AM
"WDWADU Anniversary spot"

i would be the happiest man in the universe...maybe one of the early unreleased songs (maybe Two Far or VITAL STAR!)

About awake and SFAM thay can choose one of these 2 options:

1) they play the rest of the songs that haven't been played in this part of the tour
2) thet won't play any of the songs of these records
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: mikemangioy on March 24, 2014, 08:16:24 AM
My ideal tour thing would be (other than changing the setlist every night) having two setlists rotating:

Setlist A
First set

-False Awakening Suite-
The Enemy Inside
The Shattered Fortress
-James says "HOWREWEDOING *insert city here*??-
Surrender To Reason
The Looking Glass
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
Along For The Ride
Breaking All Illusions

Set 2:
Behind The Veil
---
Panic Attack
The Bigger Picture
Scarred
Disappear
Illumination Theory

encore:
The Dance Of Eternity
One Last Time
The Spirit Carries On
Finally Free

Setlist B

Set 1:
-False Awakening Suite-
The Enemy Inside
Prophets Of War
---
Surrender To Reason
The Looking Glass
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
Along For The Ride
In The Name Of God

Set B:
Behind The Veil
---
Under A Glass Moon
The Bigger Picture
Blind Faith
Space Dye Vest
Illumination Theory

encore:
Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Finally Free
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on March 24, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
That's a very cool set. Not sure TGP quite fits in that position though.
I listened to it like that and thought about it and I think it could work. The only real way to do this song is either have it open a set, or be the second song of the concert. It's like having ToT where it is in the real setlist: It's weird placement, it shouldn't work, but it does.
"WDWADU Anniversary spot"
Woops  :lol
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: RodrigoAltaf on March 24, 2014, 04:05:17 PM
 At this stage, ANY change in the setlist would be most welcome.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: jmasterx on March 24, 2014, 05:08:39 PM
In Montreal, LaBrie said "and just so you don't miss out, we're going to play the same set as last night!" everyone boo'd lol.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: ozzy554 on March 24, 2014, 05:48:27 PM
Even though I really like the setlist I thought i'd give this a try.  I only made a few changes to it.


(Intro)
The Enemy Inside
The Shattered Fortress
On the Backs of Angels
The Looking Glass
Trial of Tears
Enigma Machine (with drum solo by Mike Mangini)
behind the veil
Raise the knife
Act II
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
octavarium
Encore:
Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
The Dance of Eternity
Finally Free
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Volante99 on March 24, 2014, 06:45:01 PM
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside (this HAS to open the show)
3. Only A Matter of Time or Status Seeker
4. The Glass Prison
5. The Looking Glass
6. Trail of Tears
7. Enigma Machine
8. Surrender to Reason
9. Breaking All Illusions

-Encore-
10. Mirror
11. Lie
12. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
13. Scarred
14. Space Dye Vest
15. A Change of Seasons

-Encore-
16. Overture 1928
17. Strange Deja Vu
18. Through My Words
19. Fatal Tragedy
20. Pull Me Under

This is THE setlist. Im probably a bit over my time limit, and there really isn't much down time for Labrie, but this would have been perfect for me. The most controversial would be the absence of Illumination Theory, but meh, I still haven't gotten into that song.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: theseoafs on March 24, 2014, 06:53:14 PM
I could do without The Shattered Fortress, Lifting Shadows, Scarred, and On the Backs of Angels.  Substitute those with The Glass Prison and the remaining DT12 songs and I'd be a very happy camper.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on March 24, 2014, 08:09:21 PM
If I were to see them again later in the tour, I wouldn't mind something like this:

False Awakening Suite (intro)
1. The Enemy Inside/
2. Just Let Me Breathe
---
3. Only a Matter of Time
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. The Looking Glass
6. Trial of Tears
7. Enigma Machine (w/ drum solo)
8. Through Her Eyes (w/ extended guitar solo)
9. The Bigger Picture
---intermission---
10. The Glass Prison
11. Surrender to Reason
---
12. Honor Thy Father
13. Erotomania/
14. Behind the Veil
15. Misunderstood
16. Along for the Ride
17. Illumination Theory
---encore---
18. Easter Egg/Ending Credits Jam
19. Take the Time
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Tim van Duijn on March 25, 2014, 03:31:48 PM
This would be mine (it's not that i don't like On the Backs of Angels and Breaking All Illusions, but i have seen the Along for The Ride tour 2 times now and i also heard those songs on the Dramatic Tour of Events. Therefore i skipped those).

False Awakening Suite
1. The Enemy Inside
2. The Glass Prison
3. The Looking Glass
4. Trial of Tears
5. Enigma Machine
6. Sacrificed Sons
7. Endless Sacrifice
--Intermission--
8. The Mirror
9. Lie
10. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
11. Scarred
12. Erotomania
13. Voices
14. Illumination Theory
--Encore--
15. Overture 1928
16. Strange Deja Vu
17. The Dance of Eternity
18. Finally Free
--Encore 2
19. A Change of Seasons

note: 2nd set accompanied by the  Berklee College of Music Orchestra and Choir
note 2: Show recorded for later DVD release
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on March 26, 2014, 02:04:17 PM
Looks a bit long...
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Sad Wings on March 26, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Even though I really like the setlist I thought i'd give this a try.  I only made a few changes to it.


(Intro)
The Enemy Inside
The Shattered Fortress
On the Backs of Angels
The Looking Glass
Trial of Tears
Enigma Machine (with drum solo by Mike Mangini)
behind the veil
Raise the knife
Act II
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
octavarium
Encore:
Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
The Dance of Eternity
Finally Free

I like that aside from The Shattered Fortress and The Dance of Eternity.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: son_ov_hades on April 03, 2014, 05:42:02 AM
I would love them to take out Scarred thus making the Awake set shorter, and remove On The Backs Of Angels. This would accommodate Metropolis and The Spirit Carries On, songs I think they should play every show for the rest of their career.   
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 03, 2014, 05:55:48 AM
I would love them to take out Scarred thus making the Awake set shorter, and remove On The Backs Of Angels. This would accommodate Metropolis and The Spirit Carries On, songs I think they should play every show for the rest of their career.

I would expect them to remove the Awake Suite altogether, though I wouldn't be shocked if they added Erotomania/Voices, and even Innocence faded for the second leg. Perhaps they may swap out some Scenes material too.

As much as I like TSCO and Metropolis, I'm not in favor of them being played at every show. A strength of DT shows are that they are not reliant on standards being played all the time.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: wasteland on April 03, 2014, 06:09:43 AM
This is my take. I currently am in the university cafeteria, so I didn't really sum up the imdividual lenghts. I strugglet to fit in LTL, my favourite, but at the end ACOS makes more sense as the closer. Give me some feedback on this one, I'm afraid my setlist making skill may have grown rusty over the past few years! :p

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Another Day
Another Hand / The Killing Hand
The Looking Glass
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine
Along For The Ride
In The Name Of God
---
Bridges In The Sky
The Mirror / Lie
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
Disappear
Illumination Theory
---
A Change Of Seasons
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on April 03, 2014, 06:18:08 AM
I enjoy it, but I would make some minor changes.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Honor Thy Father
The Looking Glass
Trial of Tears
Enigma Machine
Along for the Ride/
Another Day/
Another Hand/
The Killing Hand
In the Name of God
---
The Glass Prison
Surrender to Reason
The Mirror/
Lie
Behind the Veil
The Bigger Picture
Disappear
Illumination Theory
---
A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 03, 2014, 06:18:36 AM
Wasteland, I am in agreement with you on the fact that if the 2nd time around is also an Evening With, Bridges will open the 2nd set.
And I've also envisioned ITNOG closing the 1st set as well.

I don't see them keeping Mirror/Lie though.

I can see The Looking Glass staying, especially if they are successful promoting it. I'd be shocked if Trial Of Tears stays, hopefully swapped out for Lines In The Sand.

Remember, comparing the 1st and 2nd, say, US runs on the ADTOE tour, there were only three holdovers..Bridges, OTBOA, and BAI.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: mirko_metal_88 on April 03, 2014, 07:21:46 AM
This is my take. I currently am in the university cafeteria, so I didn't really sum up the imdividual lenghts. I strugglet to fit in LTL, my favourite, but at the end ACOS makes more sense as the closer. Give me some feedback on this one, I'm afraid my setlist making skill may have grown rusty over the past few years! :p

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Another Day
Another Hand / The Killing Hand
The Looking Glass
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine
Along For The Ride
In The Name Of God
---
Bridges In The Sky
The Mirror / Lie
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
Disappear
Illumination Theory
---
A Change Of Seasons

Very nice! i would just change Disappear and Bridges in the Sky with The Glass Prison and Innocent Faded (or Panic attack)
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Architeuthis on April 04, 2014, 01:31:53 PM
I would rather hear more from DT12 such as The Bigger Picture, and Behind The Veil to replace two of the songs from Awake era. And bring in more from ADTOE and Octavarium..
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 04, 2014, 09:40:21 PM
Wasteland, I am in agreement with you on the fact that if the 2nd time around is also an Evening With, Bridges will open the 2nd set.
And I've also envisioned ITNOG closing the 1st set as well.

I don't see them keeping Mirror/Lie though.

I can see The Looking Glass staying, especially if they are successful promoting it. I'd be shocked if Trial Of Tears stays, hopefully swapped out for Lines In The Sand.

Remember, comparing the 1st and 2nd, say, US runs on the ADTOE tour, there were only three holdovers..Bridges, OTBOA, and BAI.
I think if they keep only one song from Awake, it'll be SDVest, just because this is the only tour they've played it on and they're making a big deal about it.

I think if the second legs of Europe/US are Evening With...'s, BitS will take the place of the longer ADToE song, but OtBoA will stay for this entire tour, and then probably pop up in at least one leg for the rest of their career I'm willing to bet. Like how PMU/Metropolis/TSCO are essentially staples.

TLG was supposed to be the lead single and they're promoting the hell out of it, so that'll 100% stay, in my opinion.

The only songs I think are 100% for this entire tour cycle are FAS/TEI, TLG, IT, OtBoA and maybe SDVest. Everything else is fair game for replacement.

I can see TSF being replaced by either TGP or TDS (but come on. It's gotta be TGP THIS time.), BAI with either ITNoG or LTL, ToT for 2 more DT12 songs or another longer song, The Awake suite save SDVest for some songs off of the albums they're neglecting this Evening With cycle plus whatever other DT12 songs aren't added, and the SFAM suite swapped for a different song, maybe Home, and put in the second set, leaving the encore open for maybe ACoS, because I doubt 8VM very much.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cramx3 on April 04, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
Ill give a shot for a second leg set (just through this together and didnt think about time, but looks like a good set to me):

FAS
The Enemy Inside
A Rite of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
The Bigger Picture
Lines in the Sand
Take the Time
In The Name of God

The Glass Prison
Behind the Veil
Anna Lee
Afterlife
Surrender to Reason
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live

A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on April 04, 2014, 10:46:52 PM
Ill give a shot for a second leg set (just through this together and didnt think about time, but looks like a good set to me):

FAS
The Enemy Inside
A Rite of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
The Bigger Picture
Lines in the Sand
Take the Time
In The Name of God

The Glass Prison
Behind the Veil
Anna Lee
Afterlife
Surrender to Reason
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live

A Change of Seasons


This is a REALLY good set! I put it in a playlist and it's only 2h30m, so it's actuallya bit short. I went ahead and added more songs and made some minor changes. I figured they wouldn't stop playing The Looking Glass and Illumination Theory so I added those. I also wanted to add Hell's Kitchen to Lines in the Sand. Something had to go, so I had to take away In the Name of God, Take the Time and Anna Lee, as much as I would love to see them live. I figured with HK/LITS, that was enough from Falling into Infinity, and because IT was already taking up a closing spot after adding it, WFS/LTL had no good place and I preferred those over ITNOG. I did add Vacant/Stream of Consciousness to make sure Train of Thought was still in there, and have a break for James in the second set. I also restructured the set to fit with my added choices and have a good flow.

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
1. The Enemy Inside
2. A Rite of Passage
3. The Looking Glass
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Hell's Kitchen/
6. Keyboard Solo/
7. Lines in the Sand
8. The Bigger Picture
9. Wait for Sleep
10. Learning to Live

~1h17m

--- intermission ---

Set 2:

11. The Glass Prison
12. Afterlife
13. Surrender to Reason
14. Behind the Veil
15. Vacant/
16. Stream of Consciousness
17. Illumination Theory

~1h08m

Encore:
18. Illumination Theory Outro/Easter Egg/Ending Credits jam
19. A Change of Seasons

~27m

Total: ~2h53m (+intermission = ~3h08m)

The total time takes into account spaces between songs (1 minute of space per set) , the keyboard solo (3-5m), a JLB talking spot in each set (1m each), the Easter Egg jam (which is ~3m plus 1m for the jam) as well as the extended outro to Learning to Live (1-2m).
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 05, 2014, 06:18:26 AM
Gaspar, I think you might be on to something there.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: krands85 on April 05, 2014, 07:11:59 AM
Ill give a shot for a second leg set (just through this together and didnt think about time, but looks like a good set to me):

FAS
The Enemy Inside
A Rite of Passage
Lost Not Forgotten
The Bigger Picture
Lines in the Sand
Take the Time
In The Name of God

The Glass Prison
Behind the Veil
Anna Lee
Afterlife
Surrender to Reason
Wait For Sleep
Learning to Live

A Change of Seasons

If they play that set on the second leg, I'll be sick  :lol I much prefer it to the current set as it features my favourite DT song, 2 of my top 4 and 4 of my top 9 tracks (and I already saw 2 of the remaining 5 on the first leg).

Seems like a very taxing set for JLB though.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: KevShmev on April 07, 2014, 10:21:10 AM
I think they'll save Hell's Kitchen and Lines in the Sand for a possible 2016 tour since it'd be FII's 20th anniversary. 
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Cygnus17 on April 07, 2014, 10:43:39 AM
Bigger Picture needs to be added second leg.  Would also like to see another ADTOE tune thrown in there (Bridges?) and something from ToT.  And while it wont happen, wouldnt mind seeing the awake portion dropped in favor of more Scenes material.   

Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: ninja1125 on April 09, 2014, 08:30:47 AM
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Glass Prison
On The Backs Of Angels
Surrender To Reason
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine w/ Drum Solo
Along For The Ride
Lost Not Forgotten

Behind The Veil
The Bigger Picture
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
Illumination Theory

Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
The Dance Of Eternity
Finally Free
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 09, 2014, 07:00:43 PM
I like ^, but if I were to go as changing the set  that little I'd do something like this:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Glass Prison
On The Backs Of Angels
The Looking Glass
Trial Of Tears
Enigma Machine w/ Drum Solo
The Bigger Picture
Bridges in the Sky

Behind The Veil
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
Surrender To Reason
Illumination Theory

Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
The Dance Of Eternity
Finally Free

I only keep TLG in the set because there's no way in hell they're axing that song at any show on this tour.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: ninja1125 on April 09, 2014, 07:10:55 PM
There's no way they are axing along for the ride.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 09, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
There's no way they are axing along for the ride.
I would think if they wanted to trade out one or 2 of the DT12 songs for the other 3, my guess would be AFTR and/or Enigma Machine. I can't see them dropping FAS/TEI, TLG or IT. But AFTR does seem like it'll be a staple for the tour. Hell the entire set is looking like it'll be the permanent set for the entire duration of the tour at this point.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: The Curious Orange on April 10, 2014, 02:28:43 AM
I'd suggest that given the scale of the production and the rehersal / programming time needed, together with the fact that they'll still be playing the first setlist in other territories, it'll probably be very similar, with a few alterations. Beyond swapping IT for the other 3 DT12 songs, I wouldn't expect much more.

Intro - False Awakening
The Enemy Inside
The Mirror / Lie
The Looking Glass
On the Backs of Angels
The Killing Hand
Scarred
Along for the Ride
The Bigger Picture
~~~~~~
Behind the Veil
Enigma Machine
Space Dye Vest
Surrender to Reason
Breaking All Illusions
Dance of Eternity
Finally Free
~~~~~~
Metropolis/ Learning to Live/ Crimson Sunset


Hope I'm wrong, and we get something totally different. Well, they can keep The Killing Hand in there...
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: ? on April 10, 2014, 03:53:16 AM
I'm starting to feel they'll play the same songs from the new album on the second leg, except maybe Enigma Machine and TLG. TEI will obviously stay, AFTR is the title-track of the tour and I can't see them dropping IT.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cramx3 on April 10, 2014, 06:27:08 PM
I'm starting to feel they'll play the same songs from the new album on the second leg, except maybe Enigma Machine and TLG. TEI will obviously stay, AFTR is the title-track of the tour and I can't see them dropping IT.

After Mangini saying they are trying to get TLG on the radio, I get the feeling that song isn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 10, 2014, 07:30:01 PM
I'm starting to feel they'll play the same songs from the new album on the second leg, except maybe Enigma Machine and TLG. TEI will obviously stay, AFTR is the title-track of the tour and I can't see them dropping IT.

After Mangini saying they are trying to get TLG on the radio, I get the feeling that song isn't going anywhere.
This. I'd say TLG will become the most popular song to play from DT12 before TEI will be, just because of how hard they're pushing it.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cramx3 on April 11, 2014, 07:14:51 AM
From the two shows I went to TLG got a really good crowd reaction too.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: mikemangioy on April 14, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Why don't they drop OTBOA? It's been overplayed IMO, just because it's the ADTOE single and Grammy nominated song. God.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 14, 2014, 03:19:56 PM
Why don't they drop OTBOA? It's been overplayed IMO, just because it's the ADTOE single and Grammy nominated song. God.
They might on the second leg.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on April 14, 2014, 07:36:17 PM
It's replaced PMU as DT's "popular" song, so I think it's a mainstay for now.
I think that they should just drop the anniversaries on the second legs and get a decent mix in there.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: KevShmev on April 14, 2014, 07:48:40 PM
How's this for an idea: they mix up the set list later this year by adding songs from the new album they haven't played yet, drop everything else they have played, play nothing from the non-DT12 albums they have already covered, and only play songs from the six albums they haven't touched so far this year.  In other words, only songs from:

When Dream and Day Unite
I&W
6DOIT
Train of Thought
8V
Systematic Chaos
DT12

They'd never do it, but imagine the possibilities.  They could go with this as a set list:

Set 1
The Enemy Inside
Take the Time (take advantage of the fact that JLB's voice is in prime form, and playing it early on will make it easier for him to nail that 2nd verse)
This Is the Life
The Looking Glass
Misunderstood
Ytse Jam (with drum solo)
Along for the Ride
In the Name of God

Set 2
The Glass Prison
Behind the Veil
Solitary Shell
Surrender to Reason
Panic Attack
The Bigger Picture
Illumination Theory

Encore
In the Presence of Enemies, Part 1
Learning to Live
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 15, 2014, 08:24:06 AM
Love that encore, Kev.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on April 15, 2014, 08:27:36 AM
Great set! The only thing I noticed is that you put in an ADTOE song when you said it would only include albums that haven't been touched on the tour yet + DT12. Despite that, I enjoy the inclusion of TITL in there, since Europe and many other places didn't get to see that live yet.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GentlemanofDread on April 15, 2014, 09:23:25 AM
I was being silly and making a setlist for next year and the 30th anniversary tour, and came up with a silly little setlist.

Intro (FAS with Blob's video)
Vital Star (After the video, the rewind thing happens to Majesty Demos cover)
Your Majesty
Ytse Jam
Take The Time
Innocence Faded
Speak To Me
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee
Finally Free

INTERMISSION (15 minutes)
The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
To Live Forever
The Answer Lies Within
Prophets of War
Wither
Breaking All Illusions
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
Space Dye Vest

ENCORE
Another Hand/The Killing Hand
Metropolis Part 1

Apparently clocks in at 2 hours and 55 minutes. Not exactly the best of setlists but I was trying for a mixture of rarities and fan favorites.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 15, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
Great idea and that's a cool set, though I'd swap some for personal preference. They probably won't do it, but I think it'd be a smart move by them. I'd go with something like this:

Set 1
False Awakening Suite
1. The Enemy Inside
2. Take the Time (I liked the placement of it here. It could work really well.)
3. Blind Faith
4. The Looking Glass
5. Only A Matter of Time
6. Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. In the Name of God
----------------------
Set 2
9. The Glass Prison
10. Constant Motion
11. The Bigger Picture
12. Behind the Veil
13. Panic Attack
14. Surrender to Reason
15. On the Backs of Angels (whether they took up the concept or not, they just wouldn't axe this song)
16. Along For the Ride
17. Illumination Theory

Encore
18. A Change of Seasons (I don't think it's a top 10 song like many do, but I still love it and I'm sure a LOT of people would approve of this encore)
Easter Egg
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: ninja1125 on April 15, 2014, 10:41:04 AM
I could see them playing the DT12 in full next leg and getting rid of the anniversary sets but still play some songs from it.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind the Veil
Surrender to Reason
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory

Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
Space Dye Vest
Take The Time
On The Backs Of Angels
Wait For Sleep
Learning To Live

A Change Of Seasons (Doubt will happen but one man can wish)
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: KevShmev on April 15, 2014, 12:48:08 PM
Great set! The only thing I noticed is that you put in an ADTOE song when you said it would only include albums that haven't been touched on the tour yet + DT12. Despite that, I enjoy the inclusion of TITL in there, since Europe and many other places didn't get to see that live yet.

Oops.  I didn't follow my own rule. :facepalm: :lol
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on April 16, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Great set! The only thing I noticed is that you put in an ADTOE song when you said it would only include albums that haven't been touched on the tour yet + DT12. Despite that, I enjoy the inclusion of TITL in there, since Europe and many other places didn't get to see that live yet.

Oops.  I didn't follow my own rule. :facepalm: :lol

I would imagine they would still be playing Enigma Machine too... So I went ahead and replaced Ytse Jam with it. This means there's no WDADU in the set, so I removed This is the Life and replaced it with Only a Matter of Time.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: The Curious Orange on April 17, 2014, 04:16:10 AM
Prophets of War

No.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TAC on April 17, 2014, 05:27:48 AM
Great set! The only thing I noticed is that you put in an ADTOE song when you said it would only include albums that haven't been touched on the tour yet + DT12. Despite that, I enjoy the inclusion of TITL in there, since Europe and many other places didn't get to see that live yet.

Oops.  I didn't follow my own rule. :facepalm: :lol

I'd be shocked if they played Ytse jam. They did it on the last tour. If they are bent on having an instrumental, I can see the Awake Suite being replaced with Erotomania/Voices.

I would imagine they would still be playing Enigma Machine too... So I went ahead and replaced Ytse Jam with it. This means there's no WDADU in the set, so I removed This is the Life and replaced it with Only a Matter of Time.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: MasterLomaxus on April 17, 2014, 03:42:51 PM
They should have taken out everything from Awake, and replaced with In the Presence of Enemies, Prophets of War, or more  SFAM.  I really just don't like much on Awake.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on April 17, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
Replace everything on Awake with Prophets of War? Why don't they cover Psychosane while they're at it?
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cramx3 on April 17, 2014, 05:42:20 PM
Replace everything on Awake with Prophets of War? Why don't they cover Psychosane while they're at it?

lol yea seriously and I am one who actually likes prophets of war
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 17, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
I like it, but there's nothing I would switch from the current set for it. Or most other DT songs for that matter. There's SO much better in their catalog, especially for concerts. Just from that album, ITPOE Pt1 Constant Motion and TDEN are way better for concerts, and just better in general.

Also, I actually don't see them playing songs like that, Never Enough, ARoP, and other songs of that nature much ever again honestly. It doesn't seem like they're into playing the more straightforward songs from the last few MP albums anymore. Closest they've gone is TDEN. I could be way wrong though it's just a guess.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on April 17, 2014, 11:10:16 PM
Forsaken and These Walls made it on tour in the last cycle.  These are straightforward songs in my opinion -- so I think we'll continue to see a mix.  Maybe Wither will get a wider release in the next round.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Thierry on April 18, 2014, 01:45:04 AM
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside (this HAS to open the show)
3. Only A Matter of Time or Status Seeker
4. The Glass Prison
5. The Looking Glass
6. Trail of Tears
7. Enigma Machine
8. Surrender to Reason
9. Breaking All Illusions

-Encore-
10. Mirror
11. Lie
12. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
13. Scarred
14. Space Dye Vest
15. A Change of Seasons

-Encore-
16. Overture 1928
17. Strange Deja Vu
18. Through My Words
19. Fatal Tragedy
20. Pull Me Under

This is THE setlist. Im probably a bit over my time limit, and there really isn't much down time for Labrie, but this would have been perfect for me. The most controversial would be the absence of Illumination Theory, but meh, I still haven't gotten into that song.

You should be punched in the face (hard) for kicking out Illumination Theory from the set.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on April 18, 2014, 05:38:40 AM
Forsaken and These Walls made it on tour in the last cycle.  These are straightforward songs in my opinion -- so I think we'll continue to see a mix.  Maybe Wither will get a wider release in the next round.
More straightforward metal songs** i meant to say lol. I was referring to the songs basically created to be singles and were very accessible to people not really into progressive music, though you have a point with Forsaken and These Walls. I consider that to be more circumstantial, honestly, since they wanted to play at least one song from each album, so they couldn't play a lot of 10-15 min songs since they didn't have the set time and they were among the most popular of the shorter songs off those two albums.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Cygnus17 on April 18, 2014, 07:12:23 AM
They should have taken out everything from Awake, and replaced with In the Presence of Enemies, Prophets of War, or more  SFAM.  I really just don't like much on Awake.

THIS.  Really wasn't into the Awake part of the show.  Would be great to have more SFAM material in there...ie: through my words/fatal tragedy/beyond this life.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on April 18, 2014, 09:01:18 AM
They should boot Awake altogether and do another Metropolis 2000
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: MasterLomaxus on April 18, 2014, 08:50:24 PM
There's no reason to be mad, Grizz.  I know, I know, you're not actually mad  ;)  Some of us just don't like Awake as much, and would prefer to hear other songs live, especially our favorites songs, and ones we haven't heard live before. 
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on April 18, 2014, 10:50:19 PM
I get it; just joking around
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TheAtliator on April 24, 2014, 05:57:02 PM
I LOVED the current 2014 setlist. They covered a LOT of what I really wanted to see. My perfect set for the next leg would be-

(FAS intro tape)
The Enemy Inside
This Dying Soul
---
Blind Faith
Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
Surrender to Reason
Octavarium

--------intermission--------

Constant Motion
Only a Matter of Time
---(25 years)
Light Fuse and Getaway
The Killing Hand
Outcry
Disappear
Behind the Veil
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory
----encore------
Take the Time


The current 2014 setlist adds up to 2:39 in iTunes. This adds up to 2:38 so that should be perfect.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on April 24, 2014, 06:05:20 PM
The current set is 2:44 w/o intermission though- where are the extra five minutes? Drum solo and extended Trial of Tears intro?
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: TheAtliator on April 24, 2014, 06:11:21 PM
Drum solo, TOT intro, more than exactly 0 seconds between songs, Scarred ending (slightly longer than fade out), extra bars in Scarred added before "do you feel you don't know me anymore", talking to the audience, Bad Larry intro tape. Those will certainly account for at least 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: cramx3 on April 24, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
JLB also talks between the 2 and 3rd songs on the first and second sets, usually a welcome plus a few words and then later he says they are doing stuff from anniversary albums plus a few words.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on April 24, 2014, 11:22:10 PM
I LOVED the current 2014 setlist. They covered a LOT of what I really wanted to see. My perfect set for the next leg would be-

(FAS intro tape)
The Enemy Inside
This Dying Soul
---
Blind Faith
Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
Surrender to Reason
Octavarium

--------intermission--------

Constant Motion
Only a Matter of Time
---(25 years)
Light Fuse and Getaway
The Killing Hand
Outcry
Disappear
Behind the Veil
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory
----encore------
Take the Time


The current 2014 setlist adds up to 2:39 in iTunes. This adds up to 2:38 so that should be perfect.

I would change it to this:

Set 1:
(FAS intro tape)
The Enemy Inside
This Dying Soul
---JLB speech---
Surrender to Reason
Blind Faith
Enigma Machine (with drum solo)
Along for the Ride
Take the Time
The Bigger Picture

--------intermission--------

Set 2:
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
---JLB talks about WDADU 25th---
Status Seeker
The Killing Hand
Only a Matter of Time
---
Behind the Veil
Hell's Kitchen/ (ends on D5, Disappear starts on Dm)
Disappear
Illumination Theory
----encore------
Octavarium

Comes out to about 2:40 not counting the drum solo, and other minor extentions.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: aprilethereal on April 26, 2014, 08:52:39 AM
What about closing one set with The Bigger Picture + About To Crash Reprise + Losing Time/Grand Finale? That'd be the definition of epic :2metal:
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: mioist on April 28, 2014, 06:24:39 AM
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Grizz on May 18, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
This is going off of the idea of a segmented 12-Step Suite. Obviously the band has too much character and respect for its father for that, but whatever.

False Awakening Suite (Intro tape)

The Enemy Inside
A Mind Beside Itself:
     I. Erotomania
    II. Voices
(Greeting)
Bridges in the Sky
Enigma Machine/
Drum Solo/
Enigma Machine Part 2
In the Name of God

---Intermission---
Channel flipping (intermission video material)*

The Glass Prison:
     I. Reflection
    II. Restoration
   III. Revelation
The Looking Glass
This Dying Soul
    IV. Reflections of Reality (Revisited)
     V. Release
The Bigger Picture
The Root of All Evil
   VI. Ready
  VII. Remove
Another Hand/
The Killing Hand:
     I. The Observance
    II. Ancient Renewal
   III. The Stray Seed
    IV. Thorns
     V. Exodus
Repentance/
 VIII. Regret
   IX. Restitution
The Shattered Fortress
    X. Restraint
   XI. Receive
  XII. Responsible

---Encore---
Wait For Sleep/
Learning to Live
---Encore 2---
Dead Poet's Society
A Change of Seasons:
     I. The Crimson Sunrise
    II. Innocence
   III. Carpe Diem
    IV. The Darkest of Winters
     V. Another World
   VI. The Inevitable Summer
  VII. The Crimson Sunset

*(an old fashioned TV border is overlayed on the screen and various videos are played, with a channel flipping effect as transition. Channel 5 has the ending of the Metropolis 2000 accompaniment, which is abruptly cut off while the record is scratching by the channel flipping to 6, which is static)

Now this is probably about 15 minutes over, so can someone trim the fat? I can't bring myself to do it and would probably have to cram On the Backs of Angels somewhere in there.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on May 18, 2014, 09:55:10 PM
I think if they were ever to do the entire 12SS (Which I almost 100% doubt will ever happen), they'd do it in one shot as a second set with maybe an epic or BAI to close it.

(This set is based off the idea of them doing it during this touring cycle)

False Awakening Suite
1. The Enemy Inside
2. Strange Deja Vu
3. On the Backs of Angels
4. The Looking Glass
5. Only A Matter of Time
6. Behind the Veil
7. Surrender to Reason
8. Bridges in the Sky
--------------------
The Twelve Step Suite
9. The Glass Prison
10. This Dying Soul
11. The Root of All Evil
12. Repentance
13. The Shattered Fortress
14. Space Dye Vest
15. Along For the Ride
16. Illumination Theory
--------------------
17. Metropolis

Clocks in 2 minutes longer than the current set does in iTunes. The thing I don't like about setting aside the entire second set (and in this tour's case, the encore as well) for a specific album or suite is that it makes the first set feel a little disjointed to me. I mean it works, but I rather both sets be open to their entire catalog, which lets the construction of the set flow more organically. That being said, this set ^ would be a pretty neat thing to see on this tour, but not an idea I'd want them to do often.
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: GasparXR on May 21, 2014, 02:51:30 AM
I made yet another set list based on this touring cycle. Basically, took some songs from albums that had yet to be represented on the tour, and did some magical set list things. It's not as bold a set list as the current one, but one song that seems to not get a lot of love around here is in it. I personally think it would make a great live song.

Act I: 1h03m
False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
1. The Enemy Inside
2. The Mirror/
3. Lie
---JLB Jibba-Jabba :tup ---
4. The Looking Glass
5. Misunderstood
6. Enigma Machine (w/ drum solo)
7. Never Enough ( :omg: yeah this one :P )
8. Another Day
9. The Bigger Picture

Intermission: 15m

Act II: 1h08m
10. As I Am/ (right after the cut-off, it SLAMS into...)
11. Surrender to Reason
---JLB says things again---
12. Only a Matter of Time
13. Behind the Veil
14. Hell's Kitchen/
15. Lines in the Sand (yeah... this combo always appears in my set :lol )
16. Along for the Ride
17. Illumination Theory

Encore: 30m
18. Easter Egg jam
19. Wait for Sleep
20. Learning to Live/ (using the outro they used to use, based on the section right before the WFS reprise, but instead of hitting in big on the last chord, it transitions to...)
21. About to Crash (reprise)/
22. Losing Time/Grand Finale
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: genome on June 07, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
I wonder what the festival sets will be? Some new songs in there or a shortened version of the 3-hour set?

I'm guessing their set will be about 80-90 minutes?
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: Laughingplace56 on June 07, 2014, 09:43:45 AM
I wonder what the festival sets will be? Some new songs in there or a shortened version of the 3-hour set?

I'm guessing their set will be about 80-90 minutes?

I'd say either 75 or 90 since their headlining the second stage. I would imagine either a shorter version of the setlist they'll be playing on the second European leg, or a combo of festival songs and some from the set they've been playing.

Pull Me Under
The Enemy Inside
Panic Attack
OtBoA
The Looking Glass
As I Am
Enigma Machine
The Mirror
Lie
Along For the Ride
Finally Free or Breaking All Illusions
Title: Re: Different Set Ideas
Post by: CharlesPL on September 26, 2014, 02:32:36 AM
My proposal for the 2nd European leg (old post) :

1. False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
2. Behind The Veil
3. Lost Not Forgotten
4. This Is the Life
5. Surrender to Reason
6. Take The Time
7. Along For The Ride
8. The Bigger Picture
9. Octavarium
======Intermission==========

10. The Glass Prison
11. This Dying Soul
12. Repentance
WDADU 25th Anniversary

13. Status Seeker
14. Another Hand / The Killing Hand
15. Light Fuse and Get Away
16. Afterlife
17. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
18. Only a Matter of Time

Encore :

19. Eve
20. A Change of Seasons