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Title: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: bosk1 on January 24, 2014, 03:09:23 PM
I know we have a couple of folks on the forum who are Disney insiders and frequent Disney visitors, but I can't remember who you are.  Please let me know.  Planning a trip and I need some scoop on a couple of issues.  Thanks.
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Post by: Big Hath on January 24, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on January 24, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
 :rollin
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Post by: bosk1 on January 24, 2014, 03:20:40 PM
It's...it's like you're inside my mind, man.  :dangerwillrobinson:
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Post by: ariich on January 24, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
:rollin
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Post by: Podaar on January 24, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Well, I'm dragging the whole clan down to Orlando in March and Mrs. P and I try to do that every few years or so. I have no idea if that qualifies me but I'd be happy to answer any question that I'm able to.

I think jingle.boy indicated that he goes more frequently than that. Maybe not the best choice of words...
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Post by: Zook on January 24, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
I hear that Nick Van Dyk guy might know a thing or two.
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Post by: El Barto on January 24, 2014, 05:13:45 PM
I think TAC is one your insiders.
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Post by: Accelerando on January 24, 2014, 07:43:17 PM
I've worked in Walt Disney World for 7 years, and now I work part-time with Broadcast Productions in Disneyland. I'm a pretty big Disney geek and know the ins and outs of the Disney parks. I'll definitely help you!
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Post by: Prog Snob on January 24, 2014, 08:37:10 PM
Bosk, PM me and I'll put you in contact with my wife.  Her family has been going there at least once a year since the early 80s.  I really don't know anyone who knows Disney better than they do.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on January 24, 2014, 08:41:51 PM
I think Accelerando is one your insiders.

FTFY ;)
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 24, 2014, 10:35:38 PM
Three trips to DisneyWORLD, and three Disney cruises.  Not sure if that qualifies us as 'geeks', but more than happy to offer insights.  Mrs.jingle is the true genius though.  Feel free to hit me up here, or on the books of faces.
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Post by: TempusVox on January 24, 2014, 11:13:41 PM
Wait!!! Is this still about the Mulan doll?? :lol

You're not planning a kidnapping/ character napping are you?
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Post by: MetalJunkie on January 25, 2014, 01:52:13 AM
My best friend got slapped by Goofy when he was younger; his family now has life-time passes.
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Post by: Zydar on January 25, 2014, 02:07:20 AM
My best friend got slapped by Goofy when he was younger; his family now has life-time passes.

Wow, what did he do to piss Goofy off?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2014, 02:43:10 AM
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Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TempusVox on January 25, 2014, 02:54:13 AM
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The Mulan doll...where is it?
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on January 25, 2014, 03:47:40 AM
lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 06:36:54 AM
I know we have a couple of folks on the forum who are Disney insiders and frequent Disney visitors, but I can't remember who you are.  Please let me know.  Planning a trip and I need some scoop on a couple of issues.  Thanks.
Going to Disney World for my 4th time this year, and my wife (like Jingles) is the ultimate Disney insider and planner!
Bring on the inquiry!
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Chino on January 25, 2014, 06:43:02 AM
It's coming...

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Post by: Prog Snob on January 25, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
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Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 08:02:04 AM
It's coming...

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and I will be there when it does! :metal
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 08:03:24 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
No, its Chino's wet dream! Its an entire Avatar world being created in Animal Kingdom, slated to open in 2017.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 25, 2014, 08:54:58 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
No, its Chino's wet dream! Its an entire Avatar world being created in Animal Kingdom, slated to open in 2017.

Then I just lost interest.  :lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 09:47:53 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
No, its Chino's wet dream! Its an entire Avatar world being created in Animal Kingdom, slated to open in 2017.

Then I just lost interest.  :lol
Oh c'mon...you know its going to be awesome! :metal :biggrin:
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 25, 2014, 10:09:00 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
No, its Chino's wet dream! Its an entire Avatar world being created in Animal Kingdom, slated to open in 2017.

Then I just lost interest.  :lol
Oh c'mon...you know its going to be awesome! :metal :biggrin:

The only blue creatures I like are the Smurfs.
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Post by: jingle.boy on January 25, 2014, 10:49:37 AM
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The Mulan doll...where is it?

He ate it.
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Post by: TioJorge on January 25, 2014, 10:49:47 AM
Despite not liking the movie much at all, I would still explore the fuck out of that. If they do it right and with detail, that could be so epic. But I have my doubts it'll be as extravagant as that last pic  :lol But hey, if they've learned how to terraform just for a theme park then good on them! Although really, Chino's expectations will probably not be able to be met... Hell, for me to make a ride, it'll have to be pretty damned unbelievable. I don't think I'd ever actually end up going but...we'll see...someday.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 11:10:38 AM
Is that the new Fantasyland area?
No, its Chino's wet dream! Its an entire Avatar world being created in Animal Kingdom, slated to open in 2017.

Then I just lost interest.  :lol
Oh c'mon...you know its going to be awesome! :metal :biggrin:

The only blue creatures I like are the Smurfs.
Smurfs? Really? I hate Smurfs!!!!
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Post by: Big Hath on January 25, 2014, 12:29:52 PM
Smurfs? Really? I hate Smurfs!!!!

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Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Prog Snob on January 25, 2014, 01:11:59 PM
 :lol


Someone should photoshop Tick's head on Gargamel.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 25, 2014, 01:23:38 PM
Despite not liking the movie much at all, I would still explore the fuck out of that. If they do it right and with detail, that could be so epic. But I have my doubts it'll be as extravagant as that last pic  :lol But hey, if they've learned how to terraform just for a theme park then good on them! Although really, Chino's expectations will probably not be able to be met... Hell, for me to make a ride, it'll have to be pretty damned unbelievable. I don't think I'd ever actually end up going but...we'll see...someday.
Disney doesn't really fail.
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Post by: TioJorge on January 25, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
I didn't say fail...but they might not live up to the expectations of the Avatar zealots. Let alone my own for having to pay/travel/take the time to go there. If I'm gonna go, I wanna feel like I'm in another world. Which it looks to be, but I'm not holding my breath. I'd rather be happily surprised; cause I really wouldn't wanna go just to have it feel like a beefed up 'ride'.
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Post by: Accelerando on January 25, 2014, 03:04:21 PM
If there is one thing that Disney does right, it is theming, and I think that's the biggest appeal for guests coming into our parks. You go in and you're able to be transported into another world, leaving the troubles of daily lives behind. And i think that's why you hear adults say they feel like a kid again going to a Disney park.

 Disney has done a phenomenal job with their park updates, from the expanded Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom, and the entire reconstruction of Disney California Adventure. Here some pics I took of Cars Land. Going into this area at DCA, it feels like you got transported in a Pixar movie.

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Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Accelerando on January 25, 2014, 03:12:12 PM
Chino, I think got something cool for you! Before they released the concept art for the Avatar land, they had a small taste of what's to be expected at last years D23.

Me wearing a Navi backpack and holding up a boot

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Also at that moment, I ran into Disney legend, Imagineering rock star Joe Rhodes, who is heading the Avatar land, and is responsible for the incredible Disney's Animal Kingdom theme park in general.

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Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 25, 2014, 03:12:35 PM
I went during christmas with my cousin whom invited me. Cars and Little Mermaid were being worked on, but we saw the premier of the Tron zone, which was epic black lights and workers playing with cool air toys, our Margarita cups glowed as well.
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Post by: Chino on January 25, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
@Accelerando

That's so sick!
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Post by: Cable on January 25, 2014, 04:35:02 PM
What are the issues Bosk?

6 time WDW visitor, 1 time DLR visitor, weekly podcast listener on the parks.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 26, 2014, 07:01:06 AM
I have a theory on Disney that actually spooked my wife.

I said to her isn't it strange that they call Disney, "The most magical place on earth"
I then said...I wonder if there is any truth of reality to that statement because ever since the first time we went we are obsessed and all we want to do is plan our next trip there! Its almost as if they sprinkle magic pixie dust on you as you enter so you are addicted from that moment on!
Kind of how they say McDonald's has some addictive additive in there food that makes you want to eat it again... because we all know its poison!

By the way...we are currently in the early stages of planning an 8 day trip for for 50th birthday and will be going this December!
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Post by: Cable on January 26, 2014, 07:42:24 AM
There defiantly is something to the statement Tick. I mean, people need an open mind and actually like theme parks. But each time I come away, I like the parks even more.

Lots of actual factors to it; quality of parks and attractions, scope of the parks, food and merchandi$e, and the staff. There is no other theme park, let alone a lot of businesses that nail it on all those fronts.
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Post by: TAC on January 26, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
I think TAC is one your insiders.

Yup. Vacation Club Member for the last 12 years.

What are the issues Bosk?

I can probably help for WDW.

Never been to WDL, but that may change this summer.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on January 26, 2014, 08:41:05 AM
There defiantly is something to the statement Tick. I mean, people need an open mind and actually like theme parks. But each time I come away, I like the parks even more.

Lots of actual factors to it; quality of parks and attractions, scope of the parks, food and merchandi$e, and the staff. There is no other theme park, let alone a lot of businesses that nail it on all those fronts.
Obviously I am joking...but it does make you wonder?
and I agree will all you said. No other vacation ever goes so smooth as a Disney vacation, in every way.
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Post by: Cable on January 26, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Of course it's all in jest! But there for sure is something to it. When I was cycling thru podcasts to find good ones to get into, there are co-hosts and callers that are absolutely bonkers with how much they go, where they are coming from, and where they stay.

Personally, although it will be more than 4 years apart when I go again, I like not going too often, based on my location relative to WDW. The attractions, restaurants and what not are much more updated/re-imagined/refurbed/new and gives me that more to see each time, or whenever I go again.
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Post by: Neon on January 26, 2014, 10:38:00 PM
I'm a bit of a Disney expert myself.  Ask away...
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Post by: wkiml on January 27, 2014, 08:59:32 AM
are you hitting Florida or Cali ?

Been to WDW (Fla) about a dozen times in the last 18 years

Can answer questions you may have
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Post by: sylvan on January 27, 2014, 09:41:36 AM
I know we have a couple of folks on the forum who are Disney insiders and frequent Disney visitors, but I can't remember who you are.  Please let me know.  Planning a trip and I need some scoop on a couple of issues.  Thanks.

The suspense is killing me.  How deep will we have to dig into our Disney sub consciousness to help with these "issues".  Might it be the secret location of a Disney landmark, or something as simple as what exit to take off I-95?  Something as wild as the best bathrooms to have sex in or how to get into the "underground"?  Or maybe just the phone number for dinner reservations?

We wait with popcorn :corn
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Post by: bosk1 on January 27, 2014, 10:10:11 AM
:lol  Nothing like that.  But while it looks like we have a lot of expertise around here, my questions are all Disneyland-specific.  Disney World knowledge wouldn't really help. 

That aside, I actually think I figured out the answers in the mean time.  One question I had was over a rumor that I had heard regarding a big shift in Fast Pass policy at Disneyland.  Best I can tell, it's true, unfortunately.  :(  I mean, if anyone has any helpful insight about the new policy and its implementation at Disneyland, that's cool.  But it seems like it's pretty straightforward.

I guess one thing I would like to know if Accelerando or any other CM's have any insight is:  We are coordinating our trip with work-related travel on 6/26-6/28.  That means our Disney visit will likely be either 6/24-6/25 or 6/30-7/1.  I would generally prefer the latter.  The only issue I have is that that falls during the week leading up to 4th of July weekend.  I know 4th of July weekend is a time to avoid, but not sure about earlier in the week.  Is there likely to be any substantial difference in expected crowds between the two times we are looking at?  I get the sense they would likely be about the same, but any insight would be cool.

The last thing is, my kids may want to try pin trading this trip.  We haven't done it before.  Any tips/tricks/recommendations?

Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Chino on January 27, 2014, 10:10:25 AM
I've been to Disney FL once. I went to Epcot for a day. I found it to be just okay for the $85 admission fee. The 13 countries around that lake were pretty cool. I'd like to go back and try an drink a beer from each one. The fireworks show at the end was awesome.
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Post by: TAC on January 27, 2014, 03:16:30 PM
Bosk, sorry I can't help with WDL, but if you go back to Florida, let me know.

As far as Pin Trading, if the kids are into it, that's cool. You'll have to buy a starter set. You can find them in any gift shop pretty much. Most Cast Members have pins hanging around their necks so your kids can pretty much choose any pin they like from a Cast Member. Just remind them that it is TRADING, so your kids will have to give one up in return. If your kid is in possession of a pin that they absolutely love, tell them to pocket it.

My wife has always thought this was cool, but my kids were/are really indifferent to it. The box of pins is usually just one more thing to pack, and frankly in the Florida heat, my kids do not want to wear the pins lanyard around their neck.
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Post by: El Barto on January 27, 2014, 06:37:27 PM
So here's what I'm curious about. A lot of the people here that frequent DW seem to be older and/or child-free. It seems to me that the only advantage of hitting something like DW versus other amusement parks is if you're really into Micky Mouse or the whole Disney mentality. I guess I just don't see what the appeal is to adults who probably couldn't care less about a cartoon rat. I understand that everybody has their own ideas and interests concerning vacations, so I'm definitely not questioning people who like DW; more power to you. I'm just curious what it has to offer to adults just looking for a summer vacation when there are so many possible options in the world. Looking over packages for that, it seems you could probably spend more time exploring Europe for the amount of money we're talking about.

And to be fair, I'm a big Six Flags nut, and I'll certainly travel to ride roller coasters. Add to that I generally enjoy the whole theme park experience. DW just isn't known as a coaster park, so I've always been mystified about it.
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Post by: Cable on January 27, 2014, 08:22:49 PM
Bosk1, go to touringplans.com. While they may not have the projected crowd calendars for free for your dates in advance, something like $10 for one year is worth it IMO. The subscription gives you much more than just that, but it will answer your question.

The site is headed by the guy who basically has written the unofficial guide for the last 10 years at least. The tracking and research is VERY in-depth, so it's pretty reliable on the estimates.

The fast pass plus abomination does throw some wrenches into the whole thing. But with DLR being more of a locals park, and those out of towners not mostly staying on site for lodging, it may not be as big as an adjust vs WDW.

*edit, according to touringplans, as of 1/20/14 fp+ is NOT at DLR. Plans are there for it, but the obvious hurdle of it being more of a locals parks blows up the fp+ for resort guests only. *
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Post by: Accelerando on January 28, 2014, 01:05:03 AM

That aside, I actually think I figured out the answers in the mean time.  One question I had was over a rumor that I had heard regarding a big shift in Fast Pass policy at Disneyland.  Best I can tell, it's true, unfortunately.  :(  I mean, if anyone has any helpful insight about the new policy and its implementation at Disneyland, that's cool.  But it seems like it's pretty straightforward.

Are you talking enforcing the usage of the Fastpass in that 1-hour window, or MyMagic+? MyMagic+ system is being used only at Walt Disney World at the moment. It could come to Disneyland in the future, but seeing that Disneyland's business approach is to accommodate the annual pass holders that provides 70% of their yearly gate, I doubt it. However, the rule for the Fastpass in Disneyland is that you have to use that Fastpass within that window...so no more getting it and using it anytime you want after you get it. You got to zip-a-dee-doo-da yourself to the attraction to use or else you can kiss it goodbye.

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I guess one thing I would like to know if Accelerando or any other CM's have any insight is:  We are coordinating our trip with work-related travel on 6/26-6/28.  That means our Disney visit will likely be either 6/24-6/25 or 6/30-7/1.  I would generally prefer the latter.  The only issue I have is that that falls during the week leading up to 4th of July weekend.  I know 4th of July weekend is a time to avoid, but not sure about earlier in the week.  Is there likely to be any substantial difference in expected crowds between the two times we are looking at?  I get the sense they would likely be about the same, but any insight would be cool.

I'm not 100% on Disneyland since I've only been working for this resort since August and I also no longer work on the operations side of things like I did at Walt Disney World, but I would assume generally that it would be busy. So far the holidays have been very busy....even on the recent MLK Jr Day!  And the advice to avoid the theme parks during 4th of July is something not to take lightly. It gets overcrowded, the wait times for the attractions are extra long, and it'll be hot.  Those dates you posted, to me, will be busy, but not excruciating like it will be on the 4th of July weekend. And because 4th of July falls on a friday this year (which working at an attraction would make me want to bury a hole in the ground and crawl in it), I have a gut feeling that folks are going to want to start their 4th of July vacation in the middle of that week.

And I also highly recommend CableXs suggestion on using touringplans.com!
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Accelerando on January 28, 2014, 01:15:26 AM
So here's what I'm curious about. A lot of the people here that frequent DW seem to be older and/or child-free. It seems to me that the only advantage of hitting something like DW versus other amusement parks is if you're really into Micky Mouse or the whole Disney mentality. I guess I just don't see what the appeal is to adults who probably couldn't care less about a cartoon rat. I understand that everybody has their own ideas and interests concerning vacations, so I'm definitely not questioning people who like DW; more power to you. I'm just curious what it has to offer to adults just looking for a summer vacation when there are so many possible options in the world. Looking over packages for that, it seems you could probably spend more time exploring Europe for the amount of money we're talking about.

And to be fair, I'm a big Six Flags nut, and I'll certainly travel to ride roller coasters. Add to that I generally enjoy the whole theme park experience. DW just isn't known as a coaster park, so I've always been mystified about it.

haha no, Disney is not known as a coaster park, yet the biggest attractions are the roller coasters like Space Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster feat. Aerosmith, and Expedition Everest. As I mentioned in a earlier post, the biggest appeal for guests, especially adults, it that you can be transported into another world through precise and detailed theming. Walt Disney himself once said that Disney’s success rested in part on creating “a believable world of dreams that appeals to all age groups.” It's a place to leave at the stresses of your daily life behind and have fun. It is a wonderful, magical place that connects one with one's youth and the power of imagination.
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Post by: wkiml on January 28, 2014, 05:37:55 AM
Said Perfectly...I have always used my kids as an excuse to go to WDW, but in reality the trip was for me ,  I love being immersed in the experience that is WDW

As far as rides don't need the big thrill rides that six flags offer ( annual pass holder to 6 flags GA) its a totally different experience at WDW...hard to explain but it really is something different than an amusement park...so much to do beside jump on the rides
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Cable on January 28, 2014, 05:52:23 AM
Piggybacking off of Accelerando & Wkiml;

El Barto, I was a season pass holder at Cedar Point for 6 years. So I did the 200+ foot rides 30 times over at the very least.

While it's unfair to fully compare a Disney Park to the rest (outside of Universal), parks with 100% thrills just cannot really compete. It truly is a full experience like Accelerando said, and not just about how fast this ride is, how scary is it.

The example I will always use is Mission: Space. I cannot really do spinning rides like a Scrambler, Matterhorn, Tilt a Whirl and so on many times over without being nauseous. Mission: Space spins like a Gravitron does… a lot for at least 30 seconds two times. After getting off the ride with my brother, I asked him "when was the ride spinning?" The ride is themed and masked THAT well to me. They pump cool air in, put your face close to a screen and other sly tricks probably to divert your attention away from the fact that you're spinning. Sure, the thrills are not 85mph speeds around 250 foot drops and overbanked turns, but's that not the full point.
 
When I waited for Top Thrill Dragster at CP on opening day when it was new, I waited 5 hours through switchback after switchback. If I waited for Tower of Terror at WDW (NOTHING to due with the Mouse, or Disney properties btw) for hours, I would wait through an outdoor themed area like Hollywood in the 1920's, go inside a hotel mockup, then a movie room, then an elevator shaft, then finally the ride. Waiting is at times an experience! And the food and lodging is a whole other discussion.

I cannot fully describe honestly why its better, but it is to me as a 31 year old adult male with no kids. Thrilling rides do exist there as Accelerando pointed out, and you can spend your whole time there without ever meeting the Mouse, nor going on a fairytale attraction or to a show (at least at WDW). Disney is now spending $200 million on their top tier rides/attractions… that should dictate just how much they put into rides as a complete experience, from the time one enters the ride line to when they exit. Top end coasters are around $30 million I think.

But I do understand the price thing El Barto, and I think Disney, although the market is still paying their price increases, constantly price vacations further away from what most families can afford. Much like a shrinking middle class, Disney continues to stratify their visitors and push the best experiences closer away from the middle and up into the upper classes.
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Post by: sylvan on January 28, 2014, 06:36:54 AM
So here's what I'm curious about. A lot of the people here that frequent DW seem to be older and/or child-free. It seems to me that the only advantage of hitting something like DW versus other amusement parks is if you're really into Micky Mouse or the whole Disney mentality. I guess I just don't see what the appeal is to adults who probably couldn't care less about a cartoon rat. I understand that everybody has their own ideas and interests concerning vacations, so I'm definitely not questioning people who like DW; more power to you. I'm just curious what it has to offer to adults just looking for a summer vacation when there are so many possible options in the world. Looking over packages for that, it seems you could probably spend more time exploring Europe for the amount of money we're talking about.

And to be fair, I'm a big Six Flags nut, and I'll certainly travel to ride roller coasters. Add to that I generally enjoy the whole theme park experience. DW just isn't known as a coaster park, so I've always been mystified about it.

I've lived 2 1/2 hours from DW my entire life, and have been ~25 times, ranging from 1 year old to last November (29 yrs. old).  I've been as a child and as a single male adult.  The feelings that you remember as a kid never go away.  Never!  I get so nostalgic every time I walk by Tomorrowland Speedway, it's the first car I ever drove :laugh:.    I more so stroll around Magic Kingdom and hit a few classics and enjoy the theming.  But, for adults, the other three parks are bangin.  Epcot is the go to adult park at DW.  Cool rides, interesting cultural areas and performers, and a lot of different alcohol.  And if you go during the Food and Wine Festival, you'll leave full, drunk, and with an empty wallet.  I love Hollywood Studios: Rockin Rollercoaster, Tower of Terror, Star Wars 3D, Indiana Jones, Lights..Camera..Action!, and even the American Idol experience.  It's the smallest park so it's real easy to do something more than once or if you have to run somewhere for a fastpass.  And Animal Kingdom is themed "mad hard" from the gates to the safari, with a ton of cool animals in between.
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Post by: Podaar on January 28, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
The feelings that you remember as a kid never go away.  Never!  I get so nostalgic every time I walk by Tomorrowland Speedway, it's the first car I ever drove :laugh:.    I more so stroll around Magic Kingdom and hit a few classics and enjoy the theming.  But, for adults, the other three parks are bangin.  Epcot is the go to adult park at DW.  Cool rides, interesting cultural areas and performers, and a lot of different alcohol.  And if you go during the Food and Wine Festival, you'll leave full, drunk, and with an empty wallet.  I love Hollywood Studios: Rockin Rollercoaster, Tower of Terror, Star Wars 3D, Indiana Jones, Lights..Camera..Action!, and even the American Idol experience.  It's the smallest park so it's real easy to do something more than once or if you have to run somewhere for a fastpass.  And Animal Kingdom is themed "mad hard" from the gates to the safari, with a ton of cool animals in between.

All of this. I've spent a few hours just finding animals on the tree of life and enjoyed every second of it.

We always plan one day where the kids are left to their own devices and the adults play "drinking around the world" at the World Showcase in Epcot. We finish out the day with dinner at one of the restaurants (you have to make reservations months in advance) and then meet up with the kids for the fireworks before heading back to the resort. There is also Downtown Disney that is very adult oriented.

Still, even the strictly youth themed attractions are so well done that it always great fun. That being said, as Barto points out, the expense is getting to be pretty ridiculous. In 2015, Mrs. P and I are planning on a tour of central Europe that will be half the cost of taking the clan to WDW and will be much more educational.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: bosk1 on January 28, 2014, 08:35:51 AM
Are you talking enforcing the usage of the Fastpass in that 1-hour window.... However, the rule for the Fastpass in Disneyland is that you have to use that Fastpass within that window...so no more getting it and using it anytime you want after you get it. You got to zip-a-dee-doo-da yourself to the attraction to use or else you can kiss it goodbye.

Yeah, I had no idea they had changed it until I started researching for this trip.  Bummer!  Knowing that tip (intentionally not enforcing the cutoff) and banking on the fact that the vast majority of other guests do NOT know it was a HUGE time saver.  Oh well.  Still, knowing how the Fast Pass system works, and using it to its fullest potential still gives you an edge over the crowds. 

I'm a big fan of Ridemax (https://www.ridemax.com/index.php), and I'm wondering whether they have updated their software to take this change into account.  I submitted an inquiry to them to find out.

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I guess one thing I would like to know if Accelerando or any other CM's have any insight is:  We are coordinating our trip with work-related travel on 6/26-6/28.  That means our Disney visit will likely be either 6/24-6/25 or 6/30-7/1.  I would generally prefer the latter.  The only issue I have is that that falls during the week leading up to 4th of July weekend.  I know 4th of July weekend is a time to avoid, but not sure about earlier in the week.  Is there likely to be any substantial difference in expected crowds between the two times we are looking at?  I get the sense they would likely be about the same, but any insight would be cool.

I'm not 100% on Disneyland since I've only been working for this resort since August and I also no longer work on the operations side of things like I did at Walt Disney World, but I would assume generally that it would be busy. So far the holidays have been very busy....even on the recent MLK Jr Day!  And the advice to avoid the theme parks during 4th of July is something not to take lightly. It gets overcrowded, the wait times for the attractions are extra long, and it'll be hot.  Those dates you posted, to me, will be busy, but not excruciating like it will be on the 4th of July weekend. And because 4th of July falls on a friday this year (which working at an attraction would make me want to bury a hole in the ground and crawl in it), I have a gut feeling that folks are going to want to start their 4th of July vacation in the middle of that week.

I plan to check out touringplans.com.  I had bookmarked them and planned to subscribe already; just hadn't gotten around to it yet. 

As far as the dates, I know that is generally a pretty busy time of year anyway.  But do you think there will be a significant difference between the first set of dates and the second set?  The second is definitely more convenient for us, and I am hoping that since we would be visiting on a Monday and Tuesday, the July 4th weekend crowd wouldn't really hit yet, but I just don't know.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Going again in early December and looking forward to it! 
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Post by: sylvan on October 14, 2016, 10:59:53 AM
I'm going early November for the Food and Wine Festival and the Half Marathon. I get excited every time. I'm looking forward to seeing how Disney Spring has progressed. Bout time they got those fucking parking garages. I saw Alter Bridge at HOB and had to park in cast parking across the street... 1 mile walk to HOB!

Where are you staying?
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 11:04:21 AM
So you are going to WDW?  I was there in April.  The garages are great.  They even have LED readout screens above each parking aisle to tell you how many available parking spaces there are in that aisle. 

We are going to Disneyland.  We are still shopping for where to stay, so not 100% sure yet.  But it will be within walking distance of the park. 

I've never done any of the running events.  Probably not in the cards, given the price and that it is best for my knees if I don't run.  My exercise comes mostly from cycling and low-impact sports now.  If they ever had a cycling race, I would be all over it.
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Post by: Stadler on October 14, 2016, 01:52:40 PM
So you are going to WDW?  I was there in April.  The garages are great.  They even have LED readout screens above each parking aisle to tell you how many available parking spaces there are in that aisle. 


And little LEDs over each space (red = occupied, green = open)!   I drove around in circles in awe.  :)
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:02:07 PM
So you are going to WDW?  I was there in April.   
Hey, we went last April!

We are going to Disneyland.  We are still shopping for where to stay, so not 100% sure yet.  But it will be within walking distance of the park. 

Last summer (2015) we stayed at The Grand Californian. Our room had an awesome view of the California Screamin'. My wife says it's her favorite Disney hotel that we have stayed at.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 03:14:10 PM
So you are going to WDW?  I was there in April.   
Hey, we went last April!

Oh, wow.  Wish I knew you were there!  I wonder if our time overlapped at all?  I thought I had posted about it, but could not find anything.  Went to Animal Kingdom for the first time.  Really loved it.  Everest is my favorite Disney ride of all time now.  And the safari isn't half bad either.  The only downside to that park is the hours.  But I got a park hopper, and we left and went to Magic Kingdom after Animal Kingdom closed.  It was just me and my 11 year old, and he thought it was the best Disney vacation ever, even though we only spent 1 day in the parks (it was primarily just to visit my mom).  Oh, and we also hung out at Disney Springs a couple of times during the trip as well.

Last summer (2015) we stayed at The Grand Californian. Our room had an awesome view of the California Screamin'. My wife says it's her favorite Disney hotel that we have stayed at.
I have heard it is wonderful.  I have never done it, just because of the additional cost.  There are plenty of great hotels within walking distance, so I just can't justify more than doubling the cost for half the room size, even despite the atmosphere and extra perks.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
That's right, you went with one of your kids. I do remember that. We did not overlap.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 03:22:15 PM
Oh, I remember now.  I posted about it in the coaster thread. 

I am excited.  This is the first time ever doing 3 days of Disney only.  It will really allow us to do a lot of things we don't normally get to do because we can kind of take our time.  Not sure if I am going to get hoppers or just single park tickets.  Since we have time, I am leaning toward the single park tickets to save money that we can spend elsewhere.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:23:33 PM
Have you been to Disneyland before?
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Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Yes.  Many times.  But not for a 3 day stretch.
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Post by: TAC on October 14, 2016, 03:30:21 PM
Oh OK. My wife really loved it.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 14, 2016, 03:57:58 PM
Anything in particular that you guys liked, especially things that are not obvious or are off the beaten path?
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Post by: Accelerando on October 15, 2016, 01:27:39 AM
Bosk! I should be working on the Disneyland segments for the ABC Christmas Special around the time you will come visit. Would be cool to meet you in person.

My favorite hotel on property is the Disneyland Hotel. The rooms are really nice, and has a cool special effect on the headboards, and it evokes nostalgia of classic 1950s Disney.

A few hotels to look at that are non-Disney and are walking distance that I recommend are the Anaheim Plaza, Red Lion, and Hotel Indigo. I have had friends that stayed in those, and didn't have any problems.
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Post by: bosk1 on October 15, 2016, 12:07:48 PM
I'd love to meet up.  I will PM you our dates. 
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Anything in particular that you guys liked, especially things that are not obvious or are off the beaten path?

We were only there for 3 days. We never really got off the beaten path. Was pleasantly surprised how reasonable the lines were. My family loved the California Screamin'. And Cars Land was a huge hit.
I think my wife loved the overall quaintness of the parks.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: MetalJunkie on October 16, 2016, 12:46:49 AM
Sister worked at Disney World, and is going back after she graduates college this year. What do you need to know?
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Post by: bosk1 on October 16, 2016, 09:05:54 PM
Sister worked at Disney World, and is going back after she graduates college this year. What do you need to know?
There isn't anything specific.  I've been there many times.  Just always looking for new things to learn.  I know people experience the parks many ways, and that there is a lot to dig into. 
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Post by: oh8wrx on October 17, 2016, 04:08:29 PM
Heading to Disneyland tomorrow and saw Splash Mountain is closed... what the hell! I swear that ride is always closed. I went earlier this year (Feb) and it was closed then too. Any ideas why?
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Post by: bosk1 on October 17, 2016, 04:11:26 PM
Not sure.  I have been pretty lucky all the times I have gone and not really had to deal with many closures.
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Post by: Cable on October 17, 2016, 07:56:49 PM
My guess is seasonal refurb, based on the timeline.

https://www.undercovertourist.com/blog/disneyland-refurbishments-closings/
https://disneyland.disney.go.com/attractions/disneyland/splash-mountain/
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Post by: bosk1 on April 19, 2017, 05:17:57 PM
Just saw an article saying that Disney is planning to implement a new gondola transportation system.  That's cool.  Good idea to re-incorporate something like this (they used to have similar systems).  Then I took a closer look at the picture in the article, and it made me laugh.  I mean, if it is something that is in the works, obviously the picture in the article couldn't be of the new version.  My immediate assumption was that it was probably a picture of the old one they used to have at Disneyland (or one of the other Disney parks).  But then I noticed an obvious tell that it isn't--in fact, it isn't from a Disney park at all.  I know this because I know EXACTLY where it is from.  Anyone else know?

(https://i.imgur.com/lipH9SE.png)

https://www.popsugar.com/smart-living/New-Gondola-System-Disney-World-43447923

(and no fair reading the comments if someone happens to post where the pic is from!)
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 19, 2017, 08:39:09 PM
My ex's daughter was down there with her family a couple of weeks ago and ran into a certain Disney fan. This isn't the first or second time I've known him to be there.

(https://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Prog_Snob/17862840_1744720612485766_1384622273014579930_n_zps5gnn53ho.jpg)
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Post by: Accelerando on April 20, 2017, 12:22:08 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/lipH9SE.png)

https://www.popsugar.com/smart-living/New-Gondola-System-Disney-World-43447923

(and no fair reading the comments if someone happens to post where the pic is from!)

I'm going to throw this out there and say LEGOLAND perhaps?? Although there isn't one in Legoland Florida....

Lots to consider here, especially with the thunderstorms Florida is known to have, especially in the summer to the beginning of Fall....August and September is Hurricane season. However, if they can safely pull this off, it's going to be rad. WDW has mastered transportation in a resort that is twice the size of Manhattan. Not only would having Gondolas be fun, it would be efficient transportation.

My ex's daughter was down there with her family a couple of weeks ago and ran into a certain Disney fan. This isn't the first or second time I've known him to be there.

(https://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Prog_Snob/17862840_1744720612485766_1384622273014579930_n_zps5gnn53ho.jpg)

I believe I posted about in 2008, but when I worked at The Great Movie Ride at Disney's Hollywood Studios, he was in the second row of my vehicle, and I somehow managed to make an off mic joke to about In The Presence of Enemies in the Gangster Genre scene area  :lol. It was a lame joke, and he chuckled and knew I was a DT fan. He also did not have a Guest Relations Tour Guide with him, which many celebrities or people with money take advantage of.

EDIT: I find it very amusing he's enjoying a Mickey Pretzel. I don't know why. I just makes me smile lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Prog Snob on April 20, 2017, 04:01:58 AM
My ex's daughter was down there with her family a couple of weeks ago and ran into a certain Disney fan. This isn't the first or second time I've known him to be there.

(https://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Prog_Snob/17862840_1744720612485766_1384622273014579930_n_zps5gnn53ho.jpg)

I believe I posted about in 2008, but when I worked at The Great Movie Ride at Disney's Hollywood Studios, he was in the second row of my vehicle, and I somehow managed to make an off mic joke to about In The Presence of Enemies in the Gangster Genre scene area  :lol. It was a lame joke, and he chuckled and knew I was a DT fan. He also did not have a Guest Relations Tour Guide with him, which many celebrities or people with money take advantage of.

EDIT: I find it very amusing he's enjoying a Mickey Pretzel. I don't know why. I just makes me smile lol

Same here. I joked with her because every time we all used to go to Great Adventure, it was tradition for me to get a pretzel to get my salt fix. :lol

That's awesome that you saw him there. It must have been quite an experience working there. My best friend's parents worked there for a while. His father worked security and had lots of great stories.
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Post by: TAC on April 20, 2017, 05:37:42 PM
Of the dozens of times I've been to Disney World, I ALWAYS had my eyes peeled for any of the DT guys! :lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Stadler on April 21, 2017, 05:57:54 AM
My ex's daughter was down there with her family a couple of weeks ago and ran into a certain Disney fan. This isn't the first or second time I've known him to be there.

(https://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y393/Prog_Snob/17862840_1744720612485766_1384622273014579930_n_zps5gnn53ho.jpg)

I kind of like Bob Weir with the grey; the dye job doesn't do him justice.   
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Post by: Prog Snob on April 21, 2017, 10:15:50 AM
What is that he's wearing on his left wrist?
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Post by: sylvan on April 21, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
What is that he's wearing on his left wrist?
Disney Magic Band
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Post by: The Trooper on April 21, 2017, 12:46:22 PM
I have a house literally 5 minutes from Disney. I have seen Mr. Petrucci there a few times.
and yes a Magic Band on his wrist'basically u don't have to carry cash whatsoever. Just swipe ur wrist to pay for anything at the Resorts
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 21, 2017, 01:41:27 PM
Just saw an article saying that Disney is planning to implement a new gondola transportation system.  That's cool.  Good idea to re-incorporate something like this (they used to have similar systems).  Then I took a closer look at the picture in the article, and it made me laugh.  I mean, if it is something that is in the works, obviously the picture in the article couldn't be of the new version.  My immediate assumption was that it was probably a picture of the old one they used to have at Disneyland (or one of the other Disney parks).  But then I noticed an obvious tell that it isn't--in fact, it isn't from a Disney park at all.  I know this because I know EXACTLY where it is from.  Anyone else know?

(https://i.imgur.com/lipH9SE.png)

https://www.popsugar.com/smart-living/New-Gondola-System-Disney-World-43447923

(and no fair reading the comments if someone happens to post where the pic is from!)


We used to have one of those things at our local amusement park. It was a nice way to chill. It would take you to the end of the place and back to the pick up point. Its a small place but it is fun too...

They got rid of it though, which sucks, but what can you do.

That place is called Cliffs Amusement Park in Albuquerque.
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Post by: bosk1 on April 21, 2017, 02:09:33 PM
Yeah, a lot of places used to have them.  The one Disneyland used to have was a lot like the one in the picture.  It went right through the center of the Matterhorn. 

That picture is actually from Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk (which is the setting for much of the movie, The Lost Boys).  The giveaway is the cavewoman in one of the gondola cars.  They have a few of the "Santa Cruz cavepeople" in a few of the cars.  They still have it just like that today.  I had a lot of fun times on those as a kid.
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Post by: Accelerando on April 21, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
Of course it is! That Caveman kinda looked like a Lego figure. I have yet to visit Santa Cruz since I made my way to the Golden State.he refurb =

Bosk, did you notice the crashed Skyway cars the Imagineers added to the Matterhorn when they did the refurb in 2015?
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Post by: bosk1 on April 24, 2017, 08:28:51 AM
Before this last visit, it had been awhile since I road the Matterhorn, so there were a lot of things that were new.  I did not notice the crashed skyway cars, but having passes that need to get used, I know we will be back, so I will be on the lookout for them.  That's a really fun and cool touch to add.
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Post by: Chino on April 24, 2017, 08:31:48 AM
I've got plane tickets and 7 nights at a hotel booked. Can't effing wait!

 :heart :heart

(https://www.trbimg.com/img-58c2c460/turbine/os-disney-pandora-cameron-view-20170308)
(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iiCBvKjR_NNA/v0/600x-1.jpg)
(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i6W535DTmWBQ/v1/1200x-1.jpg)
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Post by: Stadler on April 24, 2017, 09:27:30 AM
All that just to see Yes?

(That looks a lot like their stage set for the "Tales From Topographic Oceans" tour). 
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Post by: TheSilentHam on April 24, 2017, 09:37:30 AM
(https://cln8ba-bn1305.files.1drv.com/y4p-cvqAtiPSSF43hzpFWPX4xiUuPGZXmTL22jy3z6BFZXKS9p0c-aL8RTRpyy1N0xMyzAJkDV9uaCaPwRE7PaB2qi0gPnhM0TvNYLXkgaLLAPaLucBXo_wcJjcDNsjcpiFJ01zkDlHiGSqgsYCSlotArcfUdtq3141hAg0DlAS3g3_tAPydxqgwfABUDc-i_UyAMlha7jmPgkXVBBk5EBFNg/AKPark%20-%20C.png?psid=1)
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Post by: Podaar on April 24, 2017, 10:07:40 AM
Hammy,

Whatever picture you're trying to show us is located on a secured server. The image doesn't show on the board and if I copy the image address into a different address box, it asks for my username and password.
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Post by: TheSilentHam on April 24, 2017, 04:27:15 PM
Hammy,

Whatever picture you're trying to show us is located on a secured server. The image doesn't show on the board and if I copy the image address into a different address box, it asks for my username and password.

THanks man, will try to fix it
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Post by: Cable on April 24, 2017, 06:57:26 PM
All that just to see Yes?

(That looks a lot like their stage set for the "Tales From Topographic Oceans" tour).

 :lol :tup
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Post by: TAC on April 24, 2017, 07:07:02 PM
All that just to see Yes?


..or Whoopi.
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Post by: Prog Snob on April 26, 2017, 03:34:16 AM
All that just to see Yes?

(That looks a lot like their stage set for the "Tales From Topographic Oceans" tour).

 :lol


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Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 06:55:36 AM
Bump

The GF and I booked our flight hotels and rental for a 7 day journey around Florida at the end of May (over the course of Memorial Day weekend).  Going in/out of Jacksonville (where my parents now live) and then spending two nights in Orlando before we head down to South Beach Miami.  So we will have two full days (will make the 2 hour drive from Jacksonville on a Wednesday morning so hoping to arrive when the parks open regardless).

Our plans for these two days are not set in stone, but we booked a hotel that's on Disney's property so there's access from the hotel to the Disney Parks.  However, our thought was for the first day to do Universal Studios, then the Thursday do the Magic Kingdom during the day and head over to Epcot later in the afternoon/evening until close.  I haven't been to Disney World in like 15 years or so when I was a kid.  I'm sure there's been so many changes that what I remember is not going to mean much.  So do my tentative plans sound alright?  Can I hit those three parks in two days?  Should we do something else in stead?  Best rides?  (I'm not a roller coaster person actually, but I did enjoy Space Mountain as a kid (which I understand is hardly a coaster, but just to gauge my thrill level))  Any other suggestions?   Is there any way to get discount Disney tickets?  Damn I never realized how expensive it is to do more than one park!
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Post by: Chino on March 01, 2018, 06:59:18 AM
Bump

The GF and I booked our flight hotels and rental for a 7 day journey around Florida at the end of May (over the course of Memorial Day weekend).  Going in/out of Jacksonville (where my parents now live) and then spending two nights in Orlando before we head down to South Beach Miami.  So we will have two full days (will make the 2 hour drive from Jacksonville on a Wednesday morning so hoping to arrive when the parks open regardless).

Our plans for these two days are not set in stone, but we booked a hotel that's on Disney's property so there's access from the hotel to the Disney Parks.  However, our thought was for the first day to do Universal Studios, then the Thursday do the Magic Kingdom during the day and head over to Epcot later in the afternoon/evening until close.  I haven't been to Disney World in like 15 years or so when I was a kid.  I'm sure there's been so many changes that what I remember is not going to mean much.  So do my tentative plans sound alright?  Can I hit those three parks in two days?  Should we do something else in stead?  Best rides?  (I'm not a roller coaster person actually, but I did enjoy Space Mountain as a kid (which I understand is hardly a coaster, but just to gauge my thrill level))  Any other suggestions?   Is there any way to get discount Disney tickets?  Damn I never realized how expensive it is to do more than one park!

The best ride on Earth, not just at Disney, is The Flight of Passage at Animal Kingdom. I'm not just saying that as a stupidly huge fan of Avatar. That ride is without question the most awesome experience I've ever had at an amusement park. We went on it 4 times.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: bosk1 on March 01, 2018, 07:04:42 AM
Expedition Everest, also at Animal Kingdom, is incredible as well.  For me, I don't care for Universal at all.  If I had two days to do theme parks in Orlando, I would make it two days of Disney.  For one day, because Animal Kingdom has shorter hours of operation, I would hit Animal Kingdom, and then pop over to Epcot or Magic Kingdom in the evening.  I haven't seen the Flight of Passage attraction, but it is supposed to be amazing.  I would hit that, Expedition Everest, and the Safari for sure.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Chino on March 01, 2018, 07:09:59 AM
Expedition everest and the safari were really fun.

We went down like 4 days after the hurricane last September and right after school went back into session. We didn't wait more than 15 minutes for either everest or the safari and the longest we had to wait for Flight of Passage was 80 minutes.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2018, 07:21:03 AM
Cram, which hotel are you staying at in Disney?
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Stadler on March 01, 2018, 07:28:58 AM
Bump

The GF and I booked our flight hotels and rental for a 7 day journey around Florida at the end of May (over the course of Memorial Day weekend).  Going in/out of Jacksonville (where my parents now live) and then spending two nights in Orlando before we head down to South Beach Miami.  So we will have two full days (will make the 2 hour drive from Jacksonville on a Wednesday morning so hoping to arrive when the parks open regardless).

Our plans for these two days are not set in stone, but we booked a hotel that's on Disney's property so there's access from the hotel to the Disney Parks.  However, our thought was for the first day to do Universal Studios, then the Thursday do the Magic Kingdom during the day and head over to Epcot later in the afternoon/evening until close.  I haven't been to Disney World in like 15 years or so when I was a kid.  I'm sure there's been so many changes that what I remember is not going to mean much.  So do my tentative plans sound alright?  Can I hit those three parks in two days?  Should we do something else in stead?  Best rides?  (I'm not a roller coaster person actually, but I did enjoy Space Mountain as a kid (which I understand is hardly a coaster, but just to gauge my thrill level))  Any other suggestions?   Is there any way to get discount Disney tickets?  Damn I never realized how expensive it is to do more than one park!

There's this ride at Disney that you have to go on... insane special effects, and music that you'll be hoping you can get on CD from the gift shop.  It's called "It's A Small World". 
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 07:29:40 AM
Cram, which hotel are you staying at in Disney?

It's a Holiday Inn, not a Disney resort, they just apparently are on the Disney lands it seems.  All my stays are at IHG branded hotels since these nights are all free, burnt about 1/5 of my stockpile of IHG hotel points.

So hmmm, animal kingdom is more worth than Universal?  I think we are both unsure about Universal so this is good info.  We both love animals too.  I think part of our reasoning is that a day at Universal, ticket wise, is cheaper so we'd get the park hopper for one day and Universal one park one day.  But you guys think a two day park hopper is the better experience?
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 07:30:46 AM
Bump

The GF and I booked our flight hotels and rental for a 7 day journey around Florida at the end of May (over the course of Memorial Day weekend).  Going in/out of Jacksonville (where my parents now live) and then spending two nights in Orlando before we head down to South Beach Miami.  So we will have two full days (will make the 2 hour drive from Jacksonville on a Wednesday morning so hoping to arrive when the parks open regardless).

Our plans for these two days are not set in stone, but we booked a hotel that's on Disney's property so there's access from the hotel to the Disney Parks.  However, our thought was for the first day to do Universal Studios, then the Thursday do the Magic Kingdom during the day and head over to Epcot later in the afternoon/evening until close.  I haven't been to Disney World in like 15 years or so when I was a kid.  I'm sure there's been so many changes that what I remember is not going to mean much.  So do my tentative plans sound alright?  Can I hit those three parks in two days?  Should we do something else in stead?  Best rides?  (I'm not a roller coaster person actually, but I did enjoy Space Mountain as a kid (which I understand is hardly a coaster, but just to gauge my thrill level))  Any other suggestions?   Is there any way to get discount Disney tickets?  Damn I never realized how expensive it is to do more than one park!

There's this ride at Disney that you have to go on... insane special effects, and music that you'll be hoping you can get on CD from the gift shop.  It's called "It's A Small World".

Most definitely going on that.  My mom asked if we would be doing that as well  :lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:16:30 AM
I love Universal and all the new stuff there is top notch. Skull Island and Escape from Gringot's easily out Disney any of the Disney rides. That being said...

I also recommend Animal Kingdom. The new after dark shows are fantastic. I especially like the Tree of Life Awakenings.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Stadler on March 01, 2018, 08:30:23 AM
Podaar isn't really wrong; it's not like Universal sucks or anything, but  then again, Animal Kingdom doesn't either.  It's really personal taste, and you don't know until you go.  Personally?  I LOVE Universal; it's more a ride/adult oriented place, then you go to Margaritaville for a couple drinks, then to either Pat O'Briens for more drinks, or Emeril's for an excellent meal.   I also LOVE Disney; it's more an event/kids oriented place, but not at all in a bad way, and you can go to Downtown Disney (they're calling it something else now... Riverwalk or some shit?) and pound drinks at the Irish Bar there, or go to any of about five different EXCELLENT restaurants. 

Either way, you're getting your buzz on, you're not at work, you're not shoveling snow, and you're heading back to a hotel with your girlfriend so there's a >0 chance of action.  I say "WIN WIN".   
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:40:31 AM
Stads,

Speaking of getting your drink on, have you ever played "drinking around the world" at Epcot's world showcase? You must stop at each Country and have at least one beverage. I recommend starting at Mexico with the tequila bar and going around clockwise. I've had some great times with family and friends doing this.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Chino on March 01, 2018, 08:42:19 AM
Stads,

Speaking of getting your drink on, have you ever played "drinking around the world" at Epcot's world showcase? You must stop at each Country and have at least one beverage. I recommend starting at Mexico with the tequila bar and going around clockwise. I've had some great times with family and friends doing this.

We tried that years ago and it was the most expensive day of drinking ever.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 08:44:38 AM
Stads,

Speaking of getting your drink on, have you ever played "drinking around the world" at Epcot's world showcase? You must stop at each Country and have at least one beverage. I recommend starting at Mexico with the tequila bar and going around clockwise. I've had some great times with family and friends doing this.

This is why we want to go to Epcot.  And since I haven't been to Disney since a kid, doing the adult things like drinking and seeing the shows and whatnot are definitely something I am interested in.... and yea, i don't expect anything on this part of our trip to be cheap.

I've been to Universal as well as a kid and I really liked it.  I was kind of pushing to do that for a day because I had remembered it being so fun and the rides being more entertaining,  but I've never been to animal kingdom.  Also, is that a drive through park?  Wonder cause I have a rental mustang for this trip (somehow it was just as cheap as a compact car) and I wouldn't want to damage it.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Podaar on March 01, 2018, 08:50:17 AM
Is what a drive through park? Animal Kingdom or Epcot World Showcase?  :lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Stadler on March 01, 2018, 08:56:03 AM
Stads,

Speaking of getting your drink on, have you ever played "drinking around the world" at Epcot's world showcase? You must stop at each Country and have at least one beverage. I recommend starting at Mexico with the tequila bar and going around clockwise. I've had some great times with family and friends doing this.

Actually, I have; my wife and her oldest son both enjoy Epcot.  The wife doesn't drink much, but son does, so we're global travelers.  I like when they have bands playing in the lake, too.   I wasn't there, my wife was, but one time it was Night Ranger!   
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 09:12:45 AM
Is what a drive through park? Animal Kingdom or Epcot World Showcase?  :lol

The animal kingdom lol no drinking and driving through epcot
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2018, 10:11:30 AM
Stads,

Speaking of getting your drink on, have you ever played "drinking around the world" at Epcot's world showcase? You must stop at each Country and have at least one beverage. I recommend starting at Mexico with the tequila bar and going around clockwise. I've had some great times with family and friends doing this.

Actually, I have; my wife and her oldest son both enjoy Epcot.  The wife doesn't drink much, but son does, so we're global travelers.  I like when they have bands playing in the lake, too.   I wasn't there, my wife was, but one time it was Night Ranger!

We saw Dennis DeYoung a few years ago. Amazing show.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Tick on March 01, 2018, 12:07:31 PM
Bump

The GF and I booked our flight hotels and rental for a 7 day journey around Florida at the end of May (over the course of Memorial Day weekend).  Going in/out of Jacksonville (where my parents now live) and then spending two nights in Orlando before we head down to South Beach Miami.  So we will have two full days (will make the 2 hour drive from Jacksonville on a Wednesday morning so hoping to arrive when the parks open regardless).

Our plans for these two days are not set in stone, but we booked a hotel that's on Disney's property so there's access from the hotel to the Disney Parks.  However, our thought was for the first day to do Universal Studios, then the Thursday do the Magic Kingdom during the day and head over to Epcot later in the afternoon/evening until close.  I haven't been to Disney World in like 15 years or so when I was a kid.  I'm sure there's been so many changes that what I remember is not going to mean much.  So do my tentative plans sound alright?  Can I hit those three parks in two days?  Should we do something else in stead?  Best rides?  (I'm not a roller coaster person actually, but I did enjoy Space Mountain as a kid (which I understand is hardly a coaster, but just to gauge my thrill level))  Any other suggestions?   Is there any way to get discount Disney tickets?  Damn I never realized how expensive it is to do more than one park!

There's this ride at Disney that you have to go on... insane special effects, and music that you'll be hoping you can get on CD from the gift shop.  It's called "It's A Small World".

Most definitely going on that.  My mom asked if we would be doing that as well  :lol
That's hilarious! I go to Disney quite often and my daughter and I force my wife to go on Its a small world every time. She gets more angry as the ride progresses. It truly is a form of torture for her. We are laughing and amused the whole way through, while she is not amused at all. She HATES that ride! :lol
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2018, 02:19:37 PM
Bought this shirt a few years ago..

(https://i.imgur.com/Ih3oELh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CjIBcUY.jpg)
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on March 01, 2018, 04:50:56 PM
We just went to Disney last week. There were plenty of these around:

(https://i.imgur.com/LGdsYir.jpg)

The even roped and rocked off the "beaches" at the Beach Club and Grand Floridian. My first thought was Jeesh, they are diminishing the gators' presence by pairing them up with snakes, as I've only seen one snake there before (floating along side my in the lazy river in one of the water parks).
BUT as we were walking along a walkway at Saratoga Springs (where we stayed) a three foot black snake with surprising girth slithered across just a few feet in front of us.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2018, 07:16:49 PM
 :lol yea, I don't blame them for trying to prevent another feeding.  I feel like I keep following the TAC family vacation.
Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: Accelerando on March 03, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
Yep, they are at just about any place where there is water. It went from "Don't Go In The Water" to "WE REALLY MEAN IT WHEN WE SAY DONT GO IN THE WATER."

My last visit back home during Christmas, I noticed there was a considerable amount of construction on the roads, specifically at the entrance to Magic Kingdom on World Drive. Looks like a ramp is being built to bypass the parking booth that will lead straight to the hotels. Before you had to stop at the parking booth to the far right to tell the parking cast member that you are going to one of the hotels. This is great especially if you are nearly late for a dinner reservation at, let's say, The Polynesian. Or if you are a Castmember trying to get to work, we had to pull our IDs out to show the parking booth who we were to let us through.

There are other construction projects that i'm not sure about. I do believe the one over between Studios and Wide World of Sports might be A) The Star Wars hotel or B) The new entrance/exit into Studios I've been hearing about, which makes sense because next summer when Star Wars Galaxy's Edge opens up, Studios is going to get all the crowds!

TAC, did you go visit Pandora? I love that land!

Title: Re: Disney park geeks--I need your help!
Post by: TAC on March 04, 2018, 09:03:35 AM
There’s going to be a Star Wars hotel?? They are definitely building a new hotel by the Caribbean Beach. I figured they were new DVC Timeshares.

We did go to Pandora. I’ve never seen Avatar or know any of the back story. They put a ridiculous amount of detail work which is quite impressive. As for the rides, the Flight Of Passage is great. But the fact that there are no bathrooms in the building is a joke. It’s a long line and goes on forever even once you’re inside. They need to put in bathrooms.

The Na’vi River ride is for Avatar enthusiasts only. It’s very short but again, the detail is amazing.