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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: NotePad on December 25, 2013, 01:04:32 AM
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All right so Power Metal!
To be honest the only Power metal I'm really familiar with and love is Helloween. Not really the classic stuff, but everything with Deris. That's what Helloween is to me. And to be honest, what they're doing now isn't too different from the Keeper's albums. Like Burning Sun, or Straight out of Hell. Replace Deris with Kiske, and you got a 'Keepers-era' song.
Anyways. What are some of the best power metal bands. I'm not a fan of all these fantasy based power metal bands like Hammerfall and Dragonforce. They all really do, as they say, sound like Kiske/Keepers Hellloween copycats with they're superhigh pitched vocals and such, but way more fantasy influenced. I actually enjoy a lot of Blind Guardians stuff, they stand out from the others, but like i said, what prevents me from REALLY getting into their music is the fantasy stuff. I love their sound, but not the lyrics and themes they explore.
Masterplan is another power metal band i enjoy. Unique vocals, catchy and fast. Not cheesy fantasy stuff. Same with Edguy.
Can anyone recommend any other power metal bands i should look into?
And who do you think are the best power metal bands out there? Do you think Helloween created power metal, as many claim?
And something i'v always wondered, since so many bands cite Keeper of the 7 Keys and influences. Do any current bands site newer Helloween with Deris as an influence? I hear it in some Edguy.
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I used to listen to alot of power metal. Here's some on the top of my head:
Hammerfall
Gamma Ray
Dragonland
Nocturnal Rites
Kamelot
Angra
Freedom Call
Edguy
Iced Earth
Lost Horizon (If you don't know these guys, check their debut out.)
Sonata Arctica
Helloween
Manowar
That's pretty much what I can remember right know.
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I never listened to too much Power Metal, but I definitely enjoy it. Van Canto is one of my favorite bands, and even though they're an A Capella band and do a lot of covers from various Metal bands, I'd definitely classify them as power metal, especially their original compositions.
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Gamma Ray - Land of the Free, Powerplant, Somewhere Out in Space
Blind Guardian - Imaginations From the Other Side, Nightfall in Middle Earth
Sonata Arctica - Silence, Ecliptica, Reckoning Night, Unia
Stratovarius - Episode, Infinite, Visions, Elements Pt 1
Kamelot - The Fouth Legacy, Karma, The Black Halo
Firewind - Allegiance, Premonition, Days of Defiance
Angra - Angels Cry, Temple of Shadows
Nocturnal Rites - The 8th Sin, New World Messiah, Grand Illusion
Yngwie Malmsteen - Marching Out, Odyssey, Trilogy
Axel Rudi Pell - Mystica, Oceans of Time, The Masquerade Ball
Eden's Curse - Symphony of Sin, Second Coming, Trinity
Fifth Angel - Fifth Angel. Time Will Tell
Primal Fear - Seven Seals, 16.6, Black Sun, Nuclear Fire
Silent Force - Worlds Apart, Walk the Earth
Vision Divine - Stream of Consciousness, Destination Set to Nowhere
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Iced Earth
Lost Horizon (If you don't know these guys, check their debut out.)
I have never understood why Iced Earth gets often classed as power metal.
Also, I much prefer Lost Horizons second album, A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
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LORENGUARD
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Thunderstone. The Burning and Tools Of Destruction in particular, but Evolution 4.0 is also good if you are after a little less power and more metal.
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Iced Earth
Lost Horizon (If you don't know these guys, check their debut out.)
I have never understood why Iced Earth gets often classed as power metal.
Also, I much prefer Lost Horizons second album, A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
I think everyone has their own definitions of this stuff - tbh I've never heard Malmsteen,, Eden's Curse etc.. described as power metal ..........esp stuff like Malmsteen's Odyssey but then I could see stuff on Marching Out fitting the bill . Doesn't bother me what anyone calls anything mind you as I find a lot of the labels very limiting and don't really use them myself.. Savatage were always called Power Metal but to me they have nothing in common with bands like Helloween and Gamma Ray which most people would call classic power metal.
In my iTunes I just use metal or rock and sometimes even that's too hard and I either don't bother or classify individual tracks. I have plenty of albums containing what I would consider AOR, rock and metal all on the one album .
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Well, first three Malmsteen album I think qualify as Power Metal. On the other hand, things like Sonata Arctica's Unia and Kamelot's The Black Halo are slightly more into prog. Epica and Silverthorn are more power-metall-ish in my opinion. And I would never recommend Unia to someone who wants to listen to some power metal. Everything until Unia fits though.
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Listen to Sabaton.
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Well, first three Malmsteen album I think qualify as Power Metal. On the other hand, things like Sonata Arctica's Unia and Kamelot's The Black Halo are slightly more into prog. Epica and Silverthorn are more power-metall-ish in my opinion. And I would never recommend Unia to someone who wants to listen to some power metal. Everything until Unia fits though.
Yeah, I know Unia is a bad choice for power metal, I only listed it because it's by far my fav cd from them.
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Listen to Sabaton.
I second that, a criminally underrated band, who are miles ahead of the rest.
In terms of hard working bands, touring, albums and most of all the content of their lyrics.
Also highly recommended from 2013 is Gloryhammer - Tales From The KIngdom of Fife
Along with:
Sonata Arctica - first 4 albums
Blind Guardian
Falconer - anything with Mathias Blad on vox
Evergrey - first 4 albums
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Iced Earth
Lost Horizon (If you don't know these guys, check their debut out.)
I have never understood why Iced Earth gets often classed as power metal.
Also, I much prefer Lost Horizons second album, A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
For some reason I have always put them in that category. Don't ask me why.
I just think that Awakening The World is an awesome album. Both albums are great but the debut is probably one of the best debut album i've heard by a band. Heart Of Storm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gpjy6Pt6ng) is such a powerful opening track and the energy that Christian puts behind the drums is still as evident today as when I heard it for the first time. They turn everything up a notch on AFTTGB which of course is only for the better. So whatever album you choose will most likely not disappoint.
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I will also support the Lost Horizon recommendation, they're amazing.
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Some definite power metal.... Rhapsody (of, and not of, Fire) and Freedom Call are two of my favorites.
Kade... some of those acts you mentioned I would never have thought of as 'power metal'. Sometimes, I'm not sure where the line between power metal, and melodic metal starts/stops. Can't believe you didn't mention Dream Evil!
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Evergrey i am familiar with. I used to listen to a few songs off of Recreation Day a lot on my old computer. That's all i know. If i get the chance to buy a record buy them, i will.
As i said, i'm not too interested in fantasy-based power metal like Rhapsody and such. I guess one reason i love Helloween is because they play power metal, but it's just....idk, different. Not fantasy like Dragonforce. There's more then power metal to Helloween. Don't say Gamma Ray cuz i really dont like Kai Hansens vocals. and like i said, Deris Helloween is what i'm really a fan of. Edguy i plan on getting more into. They also seem to have a sense of humor to them like the Helloween guys do ;)
Oh yea i love the first 2 Masterplan albums. Havn't heard anything without jorn lande though. Plus metal albums like this arnt just in any store ;(
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Some of these may have been said already, but:
Almah
Anubis Gate
DivineFire
Pagan's Mind
Sonata Arctica
Theocracy
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Iced Earth
Lost Horizon (If you don't know these guys, check their debut out.)
I have never understood why Iced Earth gets often classed as power metal.
Also, I much prefer Lost Horizons second album, A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
For some reason I have always put them in that category. Don't ask me why.
I just think that Awakening The World is an awesome album. Both albums are great but the debut is probably one of the best debut album i've heard by a band. Heart Of Storm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gpjy6Pt6ng) is such a powerful opening track and the energy that Christian puts behind the drums is still as evident today as when I heard it for the first time. They turn everything up a notch on AFTTGB which of course is only for the better. So whatever album you choose will most likely not disappoint.
I was lucky enough to see Lost Horizon play live a few years ago at the Tuska Festival in Helsinki.
They were superb and Daniel did not miss a note nailing everything, including a killer cover of Crimson Glory's Red Sharks.
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Powerwolf and Falconer are my two favorite power metal bands. Awesome awesome awesome stuff.
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Love Powerwolf. (see my custom user title :lol)
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Cool, lots of recommendations. But i'm starting to feel that maybe it's not exactly 'power' metal i'm seeking. Maybe that's part of it, but it's not totally the power metal part of Helloween I love. Hell, my favorite CD by them is Dark Ride, by far. But i'll check some out, maybe Stratavrius? idk. But Helloween has a unique sound, a lot of other power metal bands i'v heard sound generic, except a few like Edguy.
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Galneryus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi9HEmZl9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi9HEmZl9Y)
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Some definite power metal.... Rhapsody (of, and not of, Fire) and Freedom Call are two of my favorites.
Kade... some of those acts you mentioned I would never have thought of as 'power metal'. Sometimes, I'm not sure where the line between power metal, and melodic metal starts/stops. Can't believe you didn't mention Dream Evil!
Yeah, a few of my recommendations are touch and go, but only expanded a little since notepad said he wasn't too much into the Hammerfall style of Power Metal.
Also, can't believe I missed Dream Evil either, definitely another one I endorse.
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I'm not really a big power metal geek, but I do love Stratovarius, so I can definitely recommend them. Wolfking already mentioned the classics which are certainly worth checking out. However, I'd also like to recommend two of their newest albums, Nemesis and Elysium. Nemesis has a bit more of an contemporary edge with a heavier sound overall and some electronic elements, whereas Elysium is more proggy, the title song being a great 18 minute epic.
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Was just listening to Stratovarius, i think the album was Visions. The one where the first song sounds like Kind Hearted Light by Masterplan...;p They really sound like a Kiske/Helloween copy. And I'm not too interested in that. I do remember checking out some songs from their self-titled album, cuz people were talking about them alot when it came out, cuz it was more 'commercial. I remember like the song i think was called Maniac Dance. Otherwise i dont know if they're for me.
I just mentioned Masterplan. I like them alot. They' power metal, but do a little more then just typical power metal. I guess one could say they're a little more progressive then others, but still power metal to my ears. only listen to the Jorn Lande stuff. I think he left because he didn't like the catchy Helloween type big chorus' and stuff they were doing. Well, was probably more then that. But year, their first 2 are great. Time To Be King i'v only heard a few times but just wasn't the greatest. But good.
So yea, maybe typical power metal isn't for me. Someone mentioned Freedom Call. I heard a song by them and thought they sounded like Gamma Ray cuz the vocals sounded like Kai Hansen. Gamme Ray also never did it for me. Not a fan of Hansen's vocals.
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A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
Hell Fuc#ing YES! :metal
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Galneryus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi9HEmZl9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsi9HEmZl9Y)
i love Galneryus. The over the top widdly widdly puts a smile on my face, even after my football team have lost :biggrin:
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A Flame to the Ground Beneath, unbelievable metal.
Hell Fuc#ing YES! :metal
Amen brother.
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Let's see, power metal bands....
Allen/Lande - The Battle, The Revenge or The Showdown
Anubis Gate - Anubis Gate
Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Edenbridge - The Bonding
Eden's Curse - Symphony of Sin
Edguy - Hellfire Club
Fool's Game - Reality Divine
Magnus Karlsson - Freefall
Metal Church - The Human Factor (kinda more thrashy)
Mob Rules - Cannibal Nation
Mystic Prophesy - Ravenlord
Pretty Maids - Motherland
Primal Fear - Unbreakable
Revamp - Wild Card
Ride The Sky - New Protection
Royal Hunt - Paradox
Saints -n- Sinners - s/t
Section A - Parallel Lives or The The Seventh Sign
Serenity - Worlds Untold and Dreams Unlived
Stratovarious - Elysium
Theocracy - Mirror of Souls
Tomorrow's Eve - Tales From Serpentia
Vandroya - One
Visions of Atlantis - Ethera
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Severe lack of Lorenguard's Eve of Corruption in that list.
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Let's see, power metal bands....
Allen/Lande - The Battle, The Revenge or The Showdown
Anubis Gate - Anubis Gate
Avantasia - The Scarecrow
Edenbridge - The Bonding
Eden's Curse - Symphony of Sin
Edguy - Hellfire Club
Fool's Game - Reality Divine
Magnus Karlsson - Freefall
Metal Church - The Human Factor (kinda more thrashy)
Mob Rules - Cannibal Nation
Mystic Prophesy - Ravenlord
Pretty Maids - Motherland
Primal Fear - Unbreakable
Revamp - Wild Card
Ride The Sky - New Protection
Royal Hunt - Paradox
Saints -n- Sinners - s/t
Section A - Parallel Lives or The The Seventh Sign
Serenity - Worlds Untold and Dreams Unlived
Stratovarious - Elysium
Theocracy - Mirror of Souls
Tomorrow's Eve - Tales From Serpentia
Vandroya - One
Visions of Atlantis - Ethera
This is a great list. I didn't realise our tastes were so similar Barry, nice.
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Huh, I never would have thought of Allen-Lande as power metal. Or any Avantasia post The Metal Opera.
Opinions and all that stuff I guess. :P
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Yeah I always thought of them as melodic hard rock come AOR.
Royal Hunt always been symphonic hard rock to my ears.
Each to their own :metal
Also essential listening:
Blind Guardian - Nighfall In Middle Earth (one of the best sounding albums I have ever heard)
Angra - Holy Land
Conception - In Your Multitude
Falconer - Northwinds
Kamelot - The Fourth Legacy
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There's a few bands i listen to that arn't too easy to classify. at least not into metal subgenres. Like Nevermore. One could say they made power metal and not be wrong. There are a few elements like it.
So yea. Oh i see Conception was listed. I have heard OF them because I am a GIANT fan of Burn The Sun by ARK. Fucking love it. And Tore Ostby was in Conception? OR was it the drummer? idk. I dont know if the chances of finding a Conception album are too good tho...
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I always recommend Nocturnal Rites to people who want a power metal band to check out, specifically the last three albums. :metal
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Uhh, Savatage is power metal, right? If so, them. Can't believe they hadn't been mentioned.
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I feel like the definition of power metal is just melting around me. :lol
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Uhh, Savatage is power metal, right? If so, them. Can't believe they hadn't been mentioned.
Yeah, awesome band. I guess they are power metal. At least their mid- to late-era stuff was.
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I feel like the definition of power metal is just melting around me. :lol
It's definitely a fairly broad classification, ain't it? :biggrin:
Someone mentioned Nevermore. I always thought of them as "thrash"
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Yeah, it is pretty broad. I never would have thought of Nevermore as power metal, either. Guess it doesn't really matter, but it's fun to argue over. :D
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
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Nevermore is hard to classify.
The pre-Nevermore band Sanctuary was certainly power metal, and I consider the first S/T Nevermore album to be a continuation of that sound. (it's not really fast enough to be considered "thrash") But Nevermore took on elements of technical death metal while keeping the clean vocals...so that by itself sortof defies categorization. And I mean that in a good way. :hat
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I guess we could throw early Manowar into the power metal genre?
Early to mid 1980's I couldn't get enough of them.
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There's a few bands i listen to that arn't too easy to classify. at least not into metal subgenres. Like Nevermore. One could say they made power metal and not be wrong. There are a few elements like it.
So yea. Oh i see Conception was listed. I have heard OF them because I am a GIANT fan of Burn The Sun by ARK. Fucking love it. And Tore Ostby was in Conception? OR was it the drummer? idk. I dont know if the chances of finding a Conception album are too good tho...
Yes Tore was the guitarist and main songwriter in Conception.
It does seem that finding Conception on CD might not be too easy.
Seems as they were on the Noise label, who are long gone, and Conception albums are out of print and not on iTunes (Australia at least).
But I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find some 'around' :yarr
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Try eBay.
EDIT: I have all 4 which I bought off eBay in '06ish, and I even have the Japanese version of the re-release of The Last Sunset (sadly without the OBI), but after doing a quick search on eBay, I really want this just for the sheer cheesiness of the cover, plus, it's the original version:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CONCEPTION-Last-Sunset-CD-/360820862267?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item5402996d3b
If someone snags it, I wont be too upset. I'm sure it'll turn up again. I have to watch my spending.
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I have Japanese version of In Your Multitude (which I bought in Japan in 1995 when I visited) and Jap version of Flow (Great bonus track).
But I never bought the Last Sunset, thanks for the link, it seems to cheap and I don't think that is the actual (original) artwork?
There is also a rare unofficial release called, 'Sundance', which has all the Japanese bonus tracks, demo's and live songs.
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According to Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Metallum, it is the original artwork.
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Seems as though you are correct, I have only ever seen the Noise Records artwork ;D
Still original label and only $12.99, does seem to good to be true?
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It does, but the seller has 100% positive feedback with over 4000 transactions.
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I used to really love power metal. Fabio Lione from Rhapsody is my favourite ever vocalist
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
All of these are great choices. Hammerfall was one of the first power metal bands I got into. :metal
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
All of these are great choices. Hammerfall was one of the first power metal bands I got into. :metal
Same. The first three albums did a lot for me on helping me with my metal journey. Great albums all three.
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I guess we could throw early Manowar into the power metal genre?
Early to mid 1980's I couldn't get enough of them.
Me too. They just didn't kick on from KoM for me. Love SotH.
Vicious Rumors first few albums were excellent. Digital Dictator being their best.
Leatherwolf too. Street Ready is a great album.
I really like Orden Ogan, Dawn Of Silence, Tad Morose, Fifth Angel, Nocturnal Rites, Circle Of sIlence, Dragonland.
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So yeah, Lorenguard - Eve of Corruption.
Amazing band and album. Avoid the EP before it, but definitely check out Eve of Corruption.
Best Power Metal I've heard in forever.
https://www.youtube.com/user/LorenguardOfficial/videos
I will say that the title track is the weakest on the album, so if you don't really like that one, try another song. I didn't like it at first.
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
All of these are great choices. Hammerfall was one of the first power metal bands I got into. :metal
Same. The first three albums did a lot for me on helping me with my metal journey. Great albums all three.
Yes, those first three Hammerfall albums are great. Everything else though has been a slight disappointment, though I do love Threshold, and Chapter V has aged pretty well.
Legacy Of Kings made The TAC Top 50.
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
All of these are great choices. Hammerfall was one of the first power metal bands I got into. :metal
Same. The first three albums did a lot for me on helping me with my metal journey. Great albums all three.
Yes, those first three Hammerfall albums are great. Everything else though has been a slight disappointment, though I do love Threshold, and Chapter V has aged pretty well.
Legacy Of Kings made The TAC Top 50.
I have to say they never really did it for me. It was all a bit too predictable and boring. Nothing really stood out. I bought Renegade years ago, but I'll check out some other stuff if it's better.
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Some more bands to consider:
Adagio - Early stuff is the best
Sabaton
Lost Horizon
Hammerfall
All of these are great choices. Hammerfall was one of the first power metal bands I got into. :metal
Same. The first three albums did a lot for me on helping me with my metal journey. Great albums all three.
Yes, those first three Hammerfall albums are great. Everything else though has been a slight disappointment, though I do love Threshold, and Chapter V has aged pretty well.
Legacy Of Kings made The TAC Top 50.
Great to see some love for GttB and LoK. Those albums introduced me to Accept, Edguy and the german metal scene which later led me to more traditional Power Metal bands like Stratovarius, Angra, Rhapsody and many many more. Actually the Gothenburg metal scene with bands like Hammerfall, In Flames, Lost Horizon, At The Gates, Dark Tranquillity and more had a huge impact in my love for metal and on top of that we have all the great bands being produced at the legendary Studio Fredman in Gothenburg. So yea those albums are very important to me even though I rarely listen to Hammerfall anymore.
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Old school Accept fan here!
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Old school Accept fan here!
:metal
New school Accept fan here. Prefer the new singer to Udo's camp mumble. Eat The Heat is good too.
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So what bands would be considered the big 3 or 4 of Power Metal?
I'd say Helloween is #1 for sure. Not just because of the Keepers albums though. They're still hugely popular especially in places like Germany and Japan. They are definitely the originators of Power Metal and are still #1 for me and many others. They don't put cheesy fantasy stuff in their music, and have done not only happy Helloween type stuff, but have gone darker. Listen to the song Deliver Us; kickass power metal that's dark (love the lyrics) and sounds nothing like the other power metal bands out there. And with albums like Keepers-The Legacy or Rabbit or Gambling With The Devil they display 'classic' power metal and show they still do it better then the newer bands. They are the best and i wish they could'v capitalized on the success of the first two Keepers albums, but then we wouldn't have Andi Deris, who i believe is part of the best band lines up around.
Andi Deris is a big fan of Rob Halford's singing, and the Painkiller album is definitely power metal. I wonder if Painkiller has had much influence on Helloween, recent Helloween.
I'm sure people will say Gamma Ray. Not a fan, but whatever. And Blind Guardian.
I heard Blind Guardian's first 2 albums are actually thrash metal. Listened to a clip of an early song and the vocals reminded me of Kai Hansen, and also the album Walls of jerich which was more thrash/speed metal.
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Stratovarius. I'm not a huge fan, but they're one of the flagship power metal bands. Other than that... Helloween, Gamma Ray. I honestly don't see Blind Guardian as being very power metal anyway, as they don't really sound like any other power metal bands.
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I was around long before the genre/term power metal was created/invented.
Helloween were always called speed metal in their early days and as already stated, Blind Guardian were thrash.
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I was around long before the genre/term power metal was created/invented.
Helloween were always called speed metal in their early days and as already stated, Blind Guardian were thrash.
True. I remember Vicious Rumors were the first band I heard termed Power Metal.
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The Big 4 of Power Metal, is of course a massive can of worms to open.
I would say if your talking historically and veteran bands with a 10 plus album catalogue:
Helloween
Blind Guardian
Stratovarius
Manowar
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Just Spotified Hammerfall's Glory To The Brave and whilst I like it the choruses are just too Church hymn-like for me. The riffing is fine, the verses are fine, just not the choruses.
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Hammerfall never did a single thing for me, I always thought they were an average band, in the right place at the right time.
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I'm not very familiar with Manowar. I remember hearing about them a lot in the past, being mention on a Maiden board i believe. I was getting the impression that Manowar are consider as great and legendary as Maiden by some. I never thought of them as power metal, but then again i have yet to hear them!
And Hansi Kursch is an awesome vocalist! I'm watching BGs 2011 Wacken show right now. I really love his vocals and style, i just wish BG strayed from the fantasy stuff. I'v never listened to Angels and Demons. Sound like it's fantasy stuff though, am i right? But i think i'm still gonna give Blind Guardian another chance, as i have some of their music available to listen in my car and i have a driving job.
A lot of people assume lots of these power metal bands are hugely influenced by Helloween. And that may be true for a lot actually, but i remember reading a quote by Blind Guardian saying they were never influenced by them. And i'm not surprised really, i'm not sure BG ever purposely meant to become a "Power Metal" band when i look at their history. Seems like they started out as a thrash metal band, then evolved into having a more symphonic sound, but still wanted to make thrash/speed metal as it's in their nature, and voila! They sound like Power Metal! And of course no thrash band writes shit about elves and wizards and magic fuckin spells..
to close this rant, i just want to state how much a hate that so many people ignore newer Helloween! There are tribute albums that only have Kiske-era songs. When people talk about Helloween being the originators of power metal, i always wonder if they're also talking about the post-pink bubbles stuff too. With Deris they have done some amazing stuff, for the genre too! Plus, Kiske hated Helloween too. People talk about him coming back being so great, but he never respected what the band was doing.
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i'm guilty as charged for ignoring Deris era Helloween.
I think I have Time Of The Oath, Master of The Rings and 7 Sinners from the Deris, all of which I rarely bother with.
Probably has to do with Deris voice, which I am not a massive fan of.
I'd much rather listen to Gamma Ray.
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Back in the day Helloween were accused of being hugely influenced by Maiden. That put me off them at the time and its only recently I've started to see what i was missing.
And ManOwaR are one of my guilty pleasures. The first 4 albums are just great. Short, but great. Eric Adams is a truly underappreciated vocalist.
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Yeah I think they were referred to as 'Iron Maiden on speed'.
Yeah Manowar, I had a tape of Battle Hymns in the early 1980's, back then we shared albums and made copies
on blank cassettes. Loved Hail To England, never got my ears around Into Glory Ride.
But Kings Of Metal, Fighting The World and The Triumph Of Steel, were the trio that did it for me.
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Manowar have always been pretty hit or miss for me. I like them, but they never really stuck with me.
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I'm not even going to bother with Manowar. Any band that writes songs about their genre is an instant turn off for me. There's also the loin cloth thing. Too cheesy even for me.
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Even though they are cheesy as fuck, they are one of the only bands that sing about their own genre and do it quite well.
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I usually satisfy my power metal urges with a blast of "reckoning night" by Sonata Arctica
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Yea what i know about Manowar has always seemed way too cheesy for me. I'v seen band photo's of them. They were absolutely ridiculous. But they MUST be aware of how they look. Just look at their album covers. Reminds me of an old Sega Genesis game I used to play. Not sure of the name, was thinking Shining Force but actually i'm not sure it that was it...
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Golden Axe!!!!
That was it. The Manowar game ;p
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Yeah I gave up on Manowar a few years back and gave away all their CD's that I had.
Sure there are cheesy, cliched but they do have some killer songs buried in all the hype.
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I have my one Manowar album more as a conversation piece than something to actually listen to.
I pull it out once in awhile when I want a good laugh...and it works on that level.
If you're ever in the mood for "Weird Al Yankovic meets Spinal Tap", *THAT* is when a Manowar album can really hit the spot. I don't even view them as a real band. (even though I know they are) It's more like GWAR without the over the top monster costumes and blood.
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I have my one Manowar album more as a conversation piece than something to actually listen to.
I pull it out once in awhile when I want a good laugh...and it works on that level.
If you're ever in the mood for "Weird Al Yankovic meets Spinal Tap", *THAT* is when a Manowar album can really hit the spot. I don't even view them as a real band. (even though I know they are) It's more like GWAR without the over the top monster costumes and blood.
I haven't enjoyed a ManOwaR album for years but to say they're not a real band is a bit harsh. They lead the way and are still doing it. They had their own style and stuck with it. No one else sounds like ManOwaR. Not many power metal bands can say the same.
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Give Manowar their dues, they've been around for 30 years, worked hard and are still around with a pretty solid loyal fan base.
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For some reason I'm listening to Def Leppard, who i have never heard before... heard OF...... Listening to Hysteria to see all the fuss is about.
I'v heard people listen to something like, say, Helloween and describe it as being like 80's rock bands. I can see early stuff like Dr. Stein or Rise and Fall having a same commercial feel and appeal as something by Motley Crue or Dep Leppard, i guess. Obviously Helloween (the power metal originator ;p ) never made it big commercially though.....
When i listen to something like Def leppard or Crue i can see how could have been an influence on power metal and the 'power metal' style of sound. I remember reading a review of a Helloween album a long time ago, i think one of the Deris albums, where the reviewer said he hadn't heard music like it since the 80's. I'v also heard them being described as sounding like they were incorporating 80's rock/metal and glam rock. I guess some of those bands had lots of speed sometimes and cool riffs. I find this kind of interesting, as i don't listen much to music like that. I'v always thought Crue would be worth it to get into. I don't see a band like Stratovarius as being this way, but I wouldn't be surprised if Helloween is still making music in a similar style to some of those bands.
Anways, i'm kinda just riffing, putting out my thoughts and observations, and seeing if any of you guys can elaborate ;) I'm about a minute into Helter Skelter by motley crue and can definitely see helloween as making music like this.
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Hysteria is NOT the album you want to listen to if you're looking for how Def Leppard influenced 80's rock.
Some would say Pyromania, I would say High 'n' Dry would be the best place to look. It's a FANTASTIC album...easily one of the best albums of the 80's, and I think it was very influential.
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Yeah DL Pyromania is a classic.
I actually cannot see any connection between 1980's hair metal bands and power metal.
I think the whole speed metal and thrash genre are the exact opposite to the whole of the MTV era metal bands.
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Yeah DL Pyromania is a classic.
I actually cannot see any connection between 1980's hair metal bands and power metal.
I think the whole speed metal and thrash genre are the exact opposite to the whole of the MTV era metal bands.
:iagree:
80s glam metal is more like melodic rock as opposed to speed metal. Maybe some early Crue I could see being power metal. But by-and-large, glam/hair =/= power metal.
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Yeah DL Pyromania is a classic.
I actually cannot see any connection between 1980's hair metal bands and power metal.
I think the whole speed metal and thrash genre are the exact opposite to the whole of the MTV era metal bands.
Agrre with this. High n Dry and Pyromania were Leppard as a rock band. Hysteria is a hard pop album really. Great songs bbut I don't see any influence on Power Metal other than production values and inspiring Power metal bands to go the other, harder edged, way.
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I've always thought power metal had an 80s glam/hair influence. Mostly in terms of vocals and keyboards
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High 'n' Dry would be the best place to look. It's a FANTASTIC album...easily one of the best albums of the 80's, and I think it was very influential.
One of the best albums ever made!!
Not sure why DL is even mentioned in a Power Metal thread.
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High 'n' Dry would be the best place to look. It's a FANTASTIC album...easily one of the best albums of the 80's, and I think it was very influential.
One of the best albums ever made!!
Not sure why DL is even mentioned in a Power Metal thread.
Believe it or not...early DL is considered to be a NWOBHM band....thus, a part of the influential sound that power metal was modeled after. (when I first heard that in 1986, I was just as surprised as you are) But looking at their early demos from the late 70's and On Through the Night, I can kinda see it. It's just REALLY HARD to objectively look back at that time and look at DL without the context of "Pour Some Sugar On Me"....but there was a time when they were practically a power metal band....or at least, an early prototype.
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Their influence doesn't make them a power metal band. The Beatles were influential to almost everything, including a number of metal bands, but that doesn't make The Beatles metal.
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Their influence doesn't make them a power metal band. The Beatles were influential to almost everything, including a number of metal bands, but that doesn't make The Beatles metal.
I did use the caveat "practically"....as in, there were similarities. I never said anything to insinuate "equality"...
The NWOBHM movement was a *direct* influence on power metal. I don't think that much can be disputed. I was then just pointing out the fact that early DL is considered to be a part of that movement.
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High 'n' Dry would be the best place to look. It's a FANTASTIC album...easily one of the best albums of the 80's, and I think it was very influential.
One of the best albums ever made!!
Not sure why DL is even mentioned in a Power Metal thread.
Believe it or not...early DL is considered to be a NWOBHM band....thus, a part of the influential sound that power metal was modeled after. (when I first heard that in 1986, I was just as surprised as you are) But looking at their early demos from the late 70's and On Through the Night, I can kinda see it. It's just REALLY HARD to objectively look back at that time and look at DL without the context of "Pour Some Sugar On Me"....but there was a time when they were practically a power metal band....or at least, an early prototype.
Yeah, I believe in general structure where NWOBHM and Power Metal could be related, with Accept being the perfect bridge. Fast As A Shark is a song I've always considered to be the first European Power Metal track. Or at least the most influential.
I find On Through The Night more Progressive than the Classic Metal style of HnD.
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Yeah, i belive NWOBHM was a direct influence of Power Metal. Helloween was definately listening to Priest and Maiden, even today are probably still influenced by them. And i have heard many times Def Leppard was considered part of that wave before going commercial.
I'm thinking more about 80s hard rock and hair metal bands, like Motley Crue as i mentioned above. I hear some Crue songs and can see it being an influence on early power metal bands. And i wonder if and power metal bands were an influence on Priest's Painkiller album ;p
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I would actually say the JP were playing power metal long before Painkiller and before the name was coined.
Defenders Of The Faith, from 1984 was perhaps the hybrid PM album.
I remember playing it many times back in the day, it was fast heavy and anthemic, power metal to a tee.
Saxon and Iron Maiden are the most obvious and famous NWOBHM bands.
Saxon are more traditional metal, but these days often thrown in the PM crowd, and perhaps are?
IM, we know have turned into a more progressive metal band, with it's long songs, tempo changes and lyrical themes.
But I would say that the NWOBHM bands influenced more thrash than power metal bands, with Metallica being the most famous.
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But I would say that the NWOBHM bands influenced more thrash than power metal bands, with Metallica being the most famous.
Yes, thank you. I agree.
I'm thinking more about 80s hard rock and hair metal bands, like Motley Crue as i mentioned above. I hear some Crue songs and can see it being an influence on early power metal bands. And i wonder if and power metal bands were an influence on Priest's Painkiller album ;p
I still don't really consider Painkiller a "Power Metal" album by any stretch. I think Priest was more influenced by how soft Turbo and Ram It Down were. Now THOSE albums were truly influenced by the times.
Painkiller was really Priest basically saying "Fuck this, we are coming back harder and stronger". They also finally got a HUGE upgrade in drummers, one who could go double bass, and it really helped change the complexion of Priest's material.
There us NO line that can be drawn from Motley Crue to Power Metal.
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Honestly, most Priest I'm familiar with is the big hit songs, and Jugulator because the very idea of it I find very interesting and it killer metal.
I just started listening to the Painkiller album and was surprised by how fuckin heavy and brutal it is! I'v heard the album being referred to as Power Metal, but mostly it gets described as speed metal. A lot of Power metal bands sometimes are referred to as speed metal. Isn't Speed metal the same as thrash metal though? Or is the term Speed Metal more of a general term? and maybe thrash and power metal evolved out of bands that started out influenced by speed metal and evolved from there. i think the power metal sound came from bands like Helloween that were influenced by Maiden and Priest but wanted to be heaver, but still had a desire for melody and such.
But I do think there are a lot of people who think of Painkiller as JPs power metal album. Isn't there a Maiden album that some people say is their power metal album? I know some say Seventh Son was progressive metal, but i think it was also either Seventh Son or another album that some say is maiden's PM album.
And gazinwales, I agree that what Maiden is writing and performing these days is very much progressive metal. IMO they started to get more progressive on X Factor. It's funny, if you compare let's say the last 4 or 5 Priest and Maiden albums, they are very different. But neither band really gets put under labels like 'Power metal' or 'progressive metal'. When it comes down to it, they're really just metal bands. I think early Priest and Maiden could be put into the same category as each other. But not anymore.
BTW, how does Nostradamus compare to other JP albums? Is it anything like Painkiller? And this might be a stupid question, but i'll ask because I'm a giant nerd sometimes when it comes to this stuff. How do AoR and Nostradamus compare in style to Maiden's last few since BNW?
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BTW, how does Nostradamus compare to other JP albums? Is it anything like Painkiller? And this might be a stupid question, but i'll ask because I'm a giant nerd sometimes when it comes to this stuff. How do AoR and Nostradamus compare in style to Maiden's last few since BNW?
Nostradamus is by far the worst Priest album, nothing like Painkiller. AOR was a great little album filled with some excellent metal and rock songs, but Nostradamus is just rubbish.
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These are the power metal albums that I currently listen the most or regard as personal classics (or albums that kind of give me the same epic sound, albeit not clearly being power metal):
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle Earth
Angra - Temple of Shadows
Sonata Arctica - Reckoning Night
Symphony X - Paradise Lost
Theocracy - As the World Bleeds
Sabaton - Carolus Rex
Nightwish - Wishmaster
Demons and Wizards - Demons & Wizards
Kamelot - Silverthorn
Rage - Unity
Falconer - Northwind
Van Canto - Tribe of Force
My favourite artist is absolutely Blind Guardian (in general), I love all their songs after the second album (tough the production of some albums is not that good).
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BTW, how does Nostradamus compare to other JP albums? Is it anything like Painkiller? And this might be a stupid question, but i'll ask because I'm a giant nerd sometimes when it comes to this stuff. How do AoR and Nostradamus compare in style to Maiden's last few since BNW?
Nostradamus is by far the worst Priest album, nothing like Painkiller. AOR was a great little album filled with some excellent metal and rock songs, but Nostradamus is just rubbish.
Huh. Disappointing to hear.
The reason I'm curious about those two albums is because when Bruce and Adrian Smith rejoined with Maiden, they recorder Brave New World which was not only an amazing record, but felt like such a glorious return. BNW is such a powerful record not just in it's sound, but from the feeling I get listening to it and what it means for the band. The sound is so goddamn full!, you know? The 3 guitarists works so well for them . I think BNW is Maiden's strongest album to date. In my mind it is timeless. In years to come it will be thought of as one of their masterpieces, unlike DoD for instance. (but i am forgetting about AMOLAD, which is one of their best. But BNW is #1).
I was hoping AoR would be JPs Brave New World. I guess not. Although, that is just your opinion, no offense ;D
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Notepad, there's a lot to chew on in your post.
You can easily find Priest's stamp on every sub genre of metal. If people want to call Painkiller their "Power Metal" album, I'm not going to argue it, even though I do not agree, and when it came out, the thought had never crossed my mind. For the few years preceding Painkiller, they were listening to how soft they had become. Plus you had the emergence of all these bands that Priest influenced going right by them. A band like Metallica is the perfect example. Priest really had to up their "Metal" on Painkiller. It's written that way and it feels that way. It's a similar thing to when Alice Cooper released Raise Your Fist And Yell.
Speed Metal was a natural progression from the NWOBHM. In my opinion, Speed Metal splintered into two, the American style thrash built on aggression and riffs, and the European Power Metal, which certainly had the speed, but placed importance on sweeping melodic passages. Helloween's Keeper Pt .1 was really the first time where I thought, jeesh, we really have something new here, as it basically laid the blueprint for what Power Metal would become.
I'm on record as saying that Helloween's are one of the most important and underrated bands of the last quarter century. Their influence on today's metal, particularly Power Metal is monumental.
And Maiden had no album that was really Power Metal. They influenced the genre in a different way, and it was really their use of memorable and inspiring choruses.
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I'm on record as saying that Helloween's are one of the most important and underrated bands of the last quarter century. Their influence on today's metal, particularly Power Metal is monumental.
I have always thought this. Even Walls of Jericho was important too, even just as important as keepers. It mixed the speed/thrash metal thing with power metal, it was new and fresh, and raw.
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I'm on record as saying that Helloween's are one of the most important and underrated bands of the last quarter century. Their influence on today's metal, particularly Power Metal is monumental.
I have always thought this. Even Walls of Jericho was important too, even just as important as keepers. It mixed the speed/thrash metal thing with power metal, it was new and fresh, and raw.
Yeah, I agree. I meant to reference Jericho in my post but apparently lost my train of thought.
Helloween was a groundbreaking band in the mid 80's and they really don't get the credit they deserve.
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Even though Kai has been called the grandfather of power metal, he definitely doesn't get the credit he deserves.
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Even though Kai has been called the grandfather of power metal, he definitely doesn't get the credit he deserves.
I agreed, and I was glad that Sam Dunn recognized him in his documentary. I loved the Power Metal episode.
And as I said in the Helloween thread, I think Weikath deserves almost as much credit, and Helloween has really continued to be the standard bearers. Say what you want about Weiki, but the man has vision.
And I love how Kai's thrash/speed roots really show themselves on the post Sheepers Gamma Ray albums.
Also, I know a lot of people feel he is overrated, but as many know I'm a huge Kiske guy. His influence also cannot be understated.
The Keepers lineup was truly a perfect storm, with 3 of today's most important influencers, with each bringing such different strengths.
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I agree with pretty much everything posted after the Motley Crue influenced Power Metal bit :biggrin:
Buuut, I don't think Painkiller was necesarily a reaction to how soft JP had become because apart from the keyboards/guitar synths its essentially the same style they had been doing post Sad Wings. JP were never very heavy at all (DotF excepted). I think it was more a reaction to how metal was going and an attempt to stay current. As was Alice's raise Your fist and every album after that.
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Scott Travis gave them more scope on what they could do with their sound too. I think they wanted to explore that.
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I agree with pretty much everything posted after the Motley Crue influenced Power Metal bit :biggrin:
Buuut, I don't think Painkiller was necesarily a reaction to how soft JP had become because apart from the keyboards/guitar synths its essentially the same style they had been doing post Sad Wings. JP were never very heavy at all (DotF excepted). I think it was more a reaction to how metal was going and an attempt to stay current. As was Alice's raise Your fist and every album after that.
Except that in 1990/91, bands released less harder albums, like Metallica, Slayer, Maiden, Queensryche.
Maybe soft wasn't the best word, but I firmly believe Priest was out to make a statement with Painkiller.
I know Priest were never that heavy, but Turbo and ram It down were clearly steps back for the band.
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I agree with pretty much everything posted after the Motley Crue influenced Power Metal bit :biggrin:
Buuut, I don't think Painkiller was necesarily a reaction to how soft JP had become because apart from the keyboards/guitar synths its essentially the same style they had been doing post Sad Wings. JP were never very heavy at all (DotF excepted). I think it was more a reaction to how metal was going and an attempt to stay current. As was Alice's raise Your fist and every album after that.
Except that in 1990/91, bands released less harder albums, like Metallica, Slayer, Maiden, Queensryche.
Maybe soft wasn't the best word, but I firmly believe Priest was out to make a statement with Painkiller.
I know Priest were never that heavy, but Turbo and ram It down were clearly steps back for the band.
Maybe but Rob was getting into heavier stuff at that time, hence the split soon after. And they'd already tried that approach with little success.
And Turbo and RiD - there's one excellent 80s album in there.
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I like both of them. Ram it Down is excellent.
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I agree with pretty much everything posted after the Motley Crue influenced Power Metal bit :biggrin:
Buuut, I don't think Painkiller was necesarily a reaction to how soft JP had become because apart from the keyboards/guitar synths its essentially the same style they had been doing post Sad Wings. JP were never very heavy at all (DotF excepted). I think it was more a reaction to how metal was going and an attempt to stay current. As was Alice's raise Your fist and every album after that.
Except that in 1990/91, bands released less harder albums, like Metallica, Slayer, Maiden, Queensryche.
Maybe soft wasn't the best word, but I firmly believe Priest was out to make a statement with Painkiller.
I know Priest were never that heavy, but Turbo and ram It down were clearly steps back for the band.
Maybe but Rob was getting into heavier stuff at that time, hence the split soon after. And they'd already tried that approach with little success.
And Turbo and RiD - there's one excellent 80s album in there.
Right, who could forget Fight? I actually saw them live opening for Anthrax.
Ram It Down is OK. ;D
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Gents excellent discussion going on here, really enjoying the differing opinions and thoughts on this great genre of :metal
JP I was massive on them the in the mid 1980's (showing my age here).
Although they were the classic metal at the time, they were never afraid to experiment and try new and different things.
Some worked and some bombed, I did like Turbo, I loved the guitar synth's.
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Yeah Turbo was a sign of the times. I think Maiden was far more successful with their synth work on Somewhere In Time.
It is funny, but I'm not a huge Priest guy. Never really have been. Not sure why. I'll say that I a victim of the misconception that they were a one dimensional band. They have tons of variety in their music. It really goes to
show how badly Dave Holland held them back.
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Do Tyr count as power metal? Wikipedia says "Viking" metal.
I don't listen to much power metal anymore, but their new album Valkrja is addictive.
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I think they're basically power metal. They probably have some obscure genre like folk-viking-symphoniccore, but they sound like power metal to me.
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(Listening to a song off Nostradamus....did Halford just say queef?)
Yes, Helloween really does not get enough credit. They get credit of course, but certainly not enough. It is definitely a very important development in metal and rock those keepers albums. Maybe it's just that here in north america no one is aware. I realize Helloween is very popular in some other countries, as with power metal in general. But if one were to say they were to power metal what Metallica was to thrash, they would not be wrong.
And Kai Hansen is often considered the godfather of power metal. I also think that's bullshit. Look at the song Michael Weikath wrote on those albums, i actually like them a lot more. Eagle Fly Free is a power metal classic. I think he should be getting just as much attention as Kai Hansen. Maybe it's cuz he's not as charismatic on stage? And although i prefer Deris, i was watching a couple bootlegs from a keepers tour and one from a pink bubbles tour, and i have to admit Kiske has more natural talent then Deris. Live he could effortlessly hit any note. He was also very charismatic like Deris on stage. I do think it's a shame cuz they seemed to be on the verge of huge success and popularity until pink bubbles. I agree with Roland Grapow, who said that Helloween could have been as big as Metallica if they continued in the direction of Keepers. But the thing is, i prefer Deris much much more. Better for so many reasons, but this ISN'T THE HELLOWEEN THREAD SO I WILL SHUT UP!
I'm actually becoming quite fond of BG's Night At The Opera Album.
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I did a phone interview with Kai for the Majestic album and I asked him about being the grandfather of power metal, he kind of laughed it off, made light of it.
But I firmly believe that he probably is.
You need to remember that after the 2 classic Keeper albums, there was a huge backlash against Helloween for Cameleon and Pink Bubbles albums.
A lot of fans felt let down and even betrayed that Helloween could put out two relatively stinking turds (although there are a few gems).
Kai upped and left put out the first Gamma Ray album and restored a lot of lost credibility with that album and subsequent tour.
While Kiske also left Helloween, who found a new singer, but they had a pretty hostile time accepting Deris and his first album with them.
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Yeah, Kai definitely deserves his reputation as the main progenitor of power metal.
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I did a phone interview with Kai for the Majestic album
Wow, cool shit.
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Tiluland - Tilu Of The Kings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_4MqvZ0FaQ)
Pretty cool even though there's no vocals. So if you have a thing against high pitched vocals, this might be for you. I sincerly hope you don't but I don't know you and you don't know me so yea.....
Man you can't other than smile when hearing music like this, whatever the reason my be. :)
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Well i can see why Kai Hansen very often gets that title, and Michael Weikath never does. He was the lead guitarist and one of the 2 main songwriters in the band during what is considered their best albums/years, and after he left the band did 2 albums people considered shit, then went on to create Gamma Ray (which IMO is not a very good band, but that's just me. With a different singer i think Gamma Ray would sound SOOOOOOOO much better.).
So i see why so many name Hansen godfather and not Weikath. of course Helloween as a band also has this title, but individually Weikath never gets this title, and i strongly believe that is BS. Weikath and Hansen were both lead guitarists and the main songwriters on those albums. From those albums they BOTH individually have hit/classic songs credited to them. I actually prefer Wikath's songs more too. But because of how their history played out with Helloween doing 2 CDs fans hated after Hansen left and went on to create the popular Gamma Ray, Hansen is the one who gets singled out.
But i will admit that these days Weikath is pretty lazy. For the last few albums he's only been contributing 1 or 2 songs. Helloween is a band that writes songs individually so this matters. Usually, like on Legacy, he writes one song that's more classic rock oriented and a one that's more power metal and faster, usually with a big anthem-like chorus. He''s gotten lazy and let's Andi write most of the songs. Gerstner's not a bad songwriter but not as good at writing as Grapow was. I'm happy that since Rabbit, Marcus Groskoff has been writing more songs and actually getting them on the official album. So Weikath doesn't have to try as hard, but it would be nice. On the newest record the songs he wrote were amazing, especially Burning Sun which is like a Keeper song and even better. I'v always said that if Helloween ACTUALLY wants to write an album that is musically similar to Keepers, then let Weiki do most of the songwriting.
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Tiluland - Tilu Of The Kings (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_4MqvZ0FaQ)
Pretty cool even though there's no vocals. So if you have a thing against high pitched vocals, this might be for you. I sincerly hope you don't but I don't know you and you don't know me so yea.....
Man you can't other than smile when hearing music like this, whatever the reason my be. :)
Yeah I like this. Checked it out after someone posted it in the "what album are you listening to" thread. Maybe you? Thanks for recommending it.
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Gamma Ray (which IMO is not a very good band, but that's just me. With a different singer i think Gamma Ray would sound SOOOOOOOO much better.).
I rate Gamma Ray higher than Helloween personally. What Kai did with Land of the Free, Space, Powerplant and No World Order is just untouchable. You should check the first three albums with Ralf Scheepers, especially Insanity and Genius.
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Gamma Ray is fuc#ing incredible. But while he had gotten better, I'm not a huge fan of Kai's vocals. Gamma Ray would be so much better with Kiske. But then again so would every band! :lol
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I actually prefer Kai in Gamma Ray. He's not as polished, but I think that adds a lot to Gamma Ray.
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Gamma Ray is fuc#ing incredible. But while he had gotten better, I'm not a huge fan of Kai's vocals. Gamma Ray would be so much better with Kiske. But then again so would every band! :lol
I think through the late ninties and the 2000's, Kai was the better choice for the material, but these days, I think it would be good if Kiske joined.
I watched an interview when Unisonic was getting released with Hansen and this was actually discussed between Kiske and Hansen. They were contemplating either starting a new project or in fact Kiske joining Gamma Ray. So it nearly happened.
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NotePad:
MW was portrayed as the bad guy during the break, Kiske getting fired, Kai leaving and most of all, Ingo's leaving and subsequent suicide.
Now I don't know how old you are? Are you getting all your info from Wiki/elsewhere, or did you live through the events of those particular times?
For old Helloween fans like myself, the almost soap opera events that surrounded the band for a few years, still linger on.
Regardless, from my own memory I saw MW as the bad guy, with Helloween getting a vastly inferior singer to replace Kiske.
As for Kai singing, he has got a lot better over the years (despite being a smoker), I've seen Gamma Ray live a couple of times and he sounded even
better than the studio albums.
Deris for me has always been an average singer, with a voice more suited to his previous band Pink Cream 69 more AOR and melodic rock sounds.
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NotePad:
MW was portrayed as the bad guy during the break, Kiske getting fired, Kai leaving and most of all, Ingo's leaving and subsequent suicide.
Now I don't know how old you are? Are you getting all your info from Wiki/elsewhere, or did you live through the events of those particular times?
For old Helloween fans like myself, the almost soap opera events that surrounded the band for a few years, still linger on.
Regardless, from my own memory I saw MW as the bad guy, with Helloween getting a vastly inferior singer to replace Kiske.
As for Kai singing, he has got a lot better over the years (despite being a smoker), I've seen Gamma Ray live a couple of times and he sounded even
better than the studio albums.
Deris for me has always been an average singer, with a voice more suited to his previous band Pink Cream 69 more AOR and melodic rock sounds.
Gaz, if you check the Helloween thread, I asked Notepad the same question. Let's just say that we are much older than him! :D
I'm with you on how I viewed Weiki. Even during the Keepers era, the band came off as kind of goofy. Weiki was usually the one making the silly faces. I thought it was a mistake to let Hansen go, and then of course Kiske. The turmoil around the Chameleon album was clear upon the first listen.
To me, no one was going to replace Kiske. When Deris first joined, I ordered both CD singles (Perfect Gentleman and Mr Ego) and thought they were terrible. I gave up on Helloween at that point. Too bad because I absolutely loved them at the time. I remember when Time Of The Oath came out, I thought jeez, this looks cool, but I just couldn't pull the trigger.
Oddly, when they released Rabbit Don't Come Easy, I decided to give them a chance..oops, wrong album.
In the last year and a half, I've gone back and rediscovered the Deris era, and I really have taken to it. He's a remarkably versatile singer. I'm not in love with all of it, but I have found the whole exercise very rewarding.
Gamma Ray is fuc#ing incredible. But while he had gotten better, I'm not a huge fan of Kai's vocals. Gamma Ray would be so much better with Kiske. But then again so would every band! :lol
I think through the late ninties and the 2000's, Kai was the better choice for the material, but these days, I think it would be good if Kiske joined.
I watched an interview when Unisonic was getting released with Hansen and this was actually discussed between Kiske and Hansen. They were contemplating either starting a new project or in fact Kiske joining Gamma Ray. So it nearly happened.
Kiske and Hansen have been teasing us for a while now. Weren't they supposed to start a project, which ended up with Kiske releasing Past In Different Ways?
Plus, Hansen joined Unisonic after the fact. I think he gave them a shot in the arm, but weren't the Unisonic guys complaining about playing the fast Helloween tunes live?
Oh, and let's hear it for Marcus Grosskopf, one of metal's best bassisits!!
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No I haven't checked the Helloween thread and TBH I am not remotely interested in them ;D
Yup I figured he is probably half my age (45).
Yes Kai and Kiske have been dangling the carrot for a while, let;s hope they end up in the right place together :biggrin:
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TAC, no idea about Unisonic not wanting to play the faster Helloween songs, could be true.
Also, you're right I forgot that Hansen joined Unisonic afterwards. I believe they wanted to work together, but Kai felt putting Kiske out the front of Gamma Ray wouldn't sound and feel right after him being the singer for so long. The only other option at that point was for Hansen to join Unisonic. I guess the other guys wouldn't have complained, but there has been talk about a follow up album, but I'd really be surprised if that actually happens.
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TAC, no idea about Unisonic not wanting to play the faster Helloween songs, could be true.
https://www.bravewords.com/news/194699
https://www.bravewords.com/news/195534
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How good does Kiske sound on I Want Out?
After all these years and all the shit, sounds amazing.
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I'll read those articles later.
But yeah, the live versions I heard of I Want Out were quite flawless.
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I'm not really into Gamma Ray, but from what i hear and read they seem to be the one band in the world that wouldn't disappoint fans if they replace Kai on vocals. Especially with Kiske.
And the age difference here, well, that just goes to show how a new fans view on Helloween differs from an older fans ;)
Actually some of the early Deris songs arn't that great to my ears. I AM NOT a fan of Perfect Gentleman. If i was in your place back then TAC and heard Perfect Gentleman as a new Helloween intro, i would be unhappy too. But Master of The Rings has some really great song tho, like Sole Survivor and Secret Alibi. Secret Alibi is one of my favorites TBH.
From where I stand, as a fan of current Helloween and everything since MOTR, Kiske comes out looking like the bad guy when those times are talked about. Weiki looks like the guy who was trying to keep it all together, and keep the spirit of Helloween present as evident by firing Kiske who was drastically trying to change their sound. Weikith from what I read is the one trying to keep the band more in the style of Keeper's power metal. Look at the ones he wrote for the new CD. And Grapow himself said this in an interview, and obviously Weikath was the one the wanted him gone the most, and fired him.
So, it depends on what you read. And i know I'm a recent fan, i see how people hated those 2 post Keepers albums and understand why a fan would. Also, Pink bubbles wasn't even available to many at first.
Deris' musical sensibilities are more for me and he's infused them into Helloween. I'm also a big St. Anger fan, as one can see on the Metallica thread ;p
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There's no hope you :metal
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I think a cool idea for Helloween's next release would be making it like a Allen/Lande release. Have both Kiske and Deris sing on the disc; some songs together, some separate. I' ve just been thinking this would be a nice treat for the long time fans. It would crave the appetite for some fans who want Kiske back, but hopefully wouldn't disturb what the band has with Deris.
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I think a cool idea for Helloween's next release would be making it like a Allen/Lande release. Have both Kiske and Deris sing on the disc; some songs together, some separate. I' ve just been thinking this would be a nice treat for the long time fans. It would crave the appetite for some fans who want Kiske back, but hopefully wouldn't disturb what the band has with Deris.
I don't know. I feel like that kind of thing never works out. I'd rather Kai and Kiske just go off and make a killer album, and not be held in the contraints of what Unisonic is all about.
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I think a cool idea for Helloween's next release would be making it like a Allen/Lande release. Have both Kiske and Deris sing on the disc; some songs together, some separate. I' ve just been thinking this would be a nice treat for the long time fans. It would crave the appetite for some fans who want Kiske back, but hopefully wouldn't disturb what the band has with Deris.
I can't see this happening for a few reasons. Weikath and Deris are obviously very good friends, and I get the impression Weiki and Kiske still have some bad feelings against each other.
If that happened, i see it as being like a reverse Heaven&Hell situation. Deris has been in the band waay to long and does have a big fanbase, lots of them much bigger fans of Deris. I could see Weiki, Hansen, Kiske, Marcus playing some shows and maybe doing a record under a new name like, let's say, Keepers or something. This would be done out of respect for the current Helloween line-up. Like what Dio and Sabbath did.
But i don't think this will ever happen. I think Unisonic is the closest people will get. I suggest people hoping for a Helloween/Keeper reunion give Unisonic a listen as that's the closest to it. And Unisonic ain't bad actually. It's very melodic and quite good. They need to advertise themselves to people other then metal fans, as lots of metal fans will wine about the lack of metal.
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TAC, no idea about Unisonic not wanting to play the faster Helloween songs, could be true.
https://www.bravewords.com/news/194699
https://www.bravewords.com/news/195534
Kiske went a very soft melodic rock route in recent years and seemed to be trying to stay well away from metal. I guess he's now realising what pays the bills as he's been back in that direction with Avantasia and Unisonic to some degree. Maybe the voice just can't stand up to the rigors of the heavier stuff now. I could understand that.
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I don't really believe he dislikes metal. First of all: Unisonic. I think he probably went through a period where he felt some disdain for the metal community for only wanting him to do metal. All those fans who loved him in Helloween only wanted him to play metal, and anything else he did they made fun of and didn't support. I have not heard most of his non-helloween stuff, but he's done a bunch of records, one of them being in collaboration with Adrian Smith. And SupaRed had a couple songs I liked.
I'd like to add that he wrote Kids of The Century, which is a song I love. It's kind of a pop-metal or pop-rock song, and it's really great. Based on this song i think that if the guys worked better together and collaborated more, Pink Bubbles could have been a lot better. I don't mean better as in like Keepers, but better as in a more consistent. I can imagine Kind of The Century being a big commercial hit, and could have been if management and the record company supported it more.
But yea i don't think Kiske hates metal. He often mentions how he loves Maiden. With Unisonic i think Kiske has found the band he's probably been wishing for. Hard rock, melodic, can mix in acoustic songs and ballads, and make song that are more pop-rock and not have annoying fans complain about the lack of heaviness. I just wonder how Kai is gonna balance Gamma Ray and Unisonic. writing and recording an album takes a while, then most likely going on tour to support it- this would take up a lot of time. And he'd probably also want to take at least a short break after touring. They're confident when they say Unisonic is a real band and not a side project. Hopefully this means they'll being making a lot of music and releasing a lot of albums. I'd hate to see another Kiske project disappear.
jjrock88, i also think it would be cool if Helloween did something like Allen/Lande. Deris and Kiske both singing on Keeper of The 7 Keys Pt. 3. Sounds good ;p But i don't think Kiske would do more then 1 song, and it could be Deris and Kiske doing singing a long epic song about the keeper story, the final chapter :) Deris and Kai is more likely tho, and i hate Kai's voice.
Kiske/Hansen/Weiki/Marcus will never reunite. Helloween's current line-up is too strong and they guys are clearly great friends. Especially Deris and Weiki.
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People are complex characters, with strange and often reactionary behaviour.
Kiske was fired from Helloween, after a wirlwind rise to the top of the metal tree.
He was young not singing for Helloween anymore, screwed over by the record label (Noise) and probably disillusioned with the whole music industry.
I remember being pretty upset when I read he wasn't interested in singing metal anymore.
Fast forward a few years on, I remember playing the first Avantasia album, hearing Kiske back singing fast heavy songs again.
I was listening on my Discman in a shopping centre, I remember hearing his voice, being frozen with joy and excitement by that voice on that song, 'Reach Out For The Light'.
These days it's pretty obvious that Kiske is into singing his old style again, just listen to how good his live performances are, he still has the range and power.
He is working again with Kai in Unisonic and also appears on the recent Gamma Ray live DVD/BR on three songs.
So all is not lost Kiske is relatively young, in good shape, and hopefully doing a lot with Kai in the future.
BUT, I really can't see him ever working with his other former Helloween members or Deris.
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Kiske is 45, turning 46 this month. When I met him, I was surprised to find out we were the same age.
His first solo album, Instant Clarity is amazing. Features both Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith.
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Kiske is 45, turning 46 this month. When I met him, I was surprised to find out we were the same age.
His first solo album, Instant Clarity is amazing. Features both Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith.
Sounds intriguing. I don't have much of Kiske beyond Avantasia. Love his hairstyle though! :lol
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Kiske is 45, turning 46 this month. When I met him, I was surprised to find out we were the same age.
His first solo album, Instant Clarity is amazing. Features both Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith.
Sounds intriguing. I don't have much of Kiske beyond Avantasia. Love his hairstyle though! :lol
Instant Clarity is good, but only has those two on a couple of tracks.
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Kiske is 45, turning 46 this month. When I met him, I was surprised to find out we were the same age.
His first solo album, Instant Clarity is amazing. Features both Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith.
Sounds intriguing. I don't have much of Kiske beyond Avantasia. Love his hairstyle though! :lol
Yes so do I, we both share the same low maintenance hair style.
Seriously though, check out Helloween's Keeper Of The & Keys Part I & II
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Kiske is 45, turning 46 this month. When I met him, I was surprised to find out we were the same age.
His first solo album, Instant Clarity is amazing. Features both Kai Hansen and Adrian Smith.
Sounds intriguing. I don't have much of Kiske beyond Avantasia. Love his hairstyle though! :lol
Yes so do I, we both share the same low maintenance hair style.
Seriously though, check out Helloween's Keeper Of The & Keys Part I & II
I did...from TAC's top 50, and tried Rabbit Don't Come Easy from wolfie's Top 50. I was underwhelmed at first listen from all three.
:dunno:
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I can't remember if i saw this posted here, so here's a link to a really interesting Helloween video about Pink Bubbles and the making of the Kids of The Century video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tqv3D33lc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tqv3D33lc)
I can see how Kiske could have been an overpowering personality. From the sounds of it he was very involved with the creative and musical direction of Helloween, probably as a result of Kai leaving. He was the frontman, he's very confident here. I like the part where he's talking about how different the album is and how each new record will be more and more different.
But then i remember that they all wrote many songs for Chameleon. Kiske gets so much of the blame for Chameleon, but they were all responsible for the expirimentalness of it. But i guess Kiske wanted to keep it that way and go further, whereas Weiki and Grapow didn't. On that point, i think Grapow may not have been a good replacement at the time. His songs got better later on, and Masterplan is kickass power metal, many of their songs would be awesome for Helloween. But back in the day, another guitarist/songwriter may have resulted in a better and more metal album.
Whatever.....
Hey, is Evergrey really power metal? I hear them referred to as power metal, but I'm not so sure about that. Damn, they're a really great band i gotta say. I'm looking forward to getting more into them.
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Evergrey are more of a melodic progressive metal band. I guess. :P
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I've been sorting out all my CD's today and I still haven't bloody finished, which gives you an idea just how many I have :metal
Anyhow I came across my Helloween collection and decided to throw on 7 Sinners, seeing how I can't remember a thing about it.
First song was great, next couple not too bad, 4th one was enough and I turned it off. Maybe when I'm in a better mood I might try and take in the rest :xbones
Yes I would say Evergrey is PM, they were a really good band, first 4 or 5 albums were great and then they went through a revolving door of band members.
That said they still have their moments, but I really doubt if they have another great album left in them, though I'd love to be proved wrong.
They are a great live band too, I've seen them 3 times over the years and always put on an energetic loud live show.
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What I'v heard of them i really like. I used to listen to a few songs off Recreation Day which i loved, so i'v been listening to another album of theirs recently, don't know the name, but it's really great. And yea, they are very melodic, which is probably why i like them so much. Really heavy guitars, some fast PM elements, and great melodies. The singer doesn't really have a great voice when i pay close enough attention, but as a singer he is very competent. Add this to the great melodic metal songwriting and you get a great band. I decided to start listening to them again, and more, after hearing Jeff Loomis was a fan, and after seeing them recommended on here.
And hey, too bad to hear you don't like 7 Sinners. I think it's great. I'd say their new one is even better. Straight Out of Hell. Check it out. Some compare their recent 2 albums to Dark Ride. I can see why, they're very heavy. But not as dark. And these last 2 have been very consistent too. As song writers they seem to be working together well. A lot of their other albums don't have any flow, but these do. And Weiki's been improving as a songwriter. After Dark Ride his song contributions were quite horrendous. They really seem to be at the top of their game. Sascha Gerstner seems to have added some new energy to the band. And god damn does Michael Weikath know how to write a catchy chorus. I'd love to have an album full of songs like All Over The Nations and Salvation.
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I have never thought of Evergrey as a power metal band. There's nothing in their music that makes me think of power metal at all. I would classifiy them as a metal band if you ask me. Awesome band though!
I highly recommend anyone to listen to In Search Of Truth if you haven't already.
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Yeah I'll give 7 Sinners another shot sometime, I did really like the production, sonically it was spot on.
I'm pretty fussy with my sound I like and I have a pretty decent system to listen on.
I think I might have 'sampled' Straight Out Of Hell when it came out, I'll check it out again.
I remember seeing Evergrey playing in 1999 in Holland and the sound was just so dark, so mechanical and so cold, like nothing I'd ever heard before.
If they are not PM, then just a damned good metal band will do me.
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New Sonata Arctica album "Pariah's Child" to be released on Mar. 28. Looking forward to this one!
Edit: Whoops, didn't see this was already posted in the Sonata Arctica thread. Oh well, the more promotion for them the better.
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/sonataarcticapariahscover.jpg)
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Not sure what specific sub-genre of metal Evergrey would fall into. Personally, I think they are closer to prog than they are to power or melodic.
No matter, they kick all kinds of ass. Not a single album that I don't like by them. NotePad... Solitude Domninance Tragedy, and Recreation Day are essential.
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I really hope that the forthcoming Sonata Arctica is a return to their old sound.
The old logo and wolf are back on the cover, I'm hoping it's an indication of it's musical contents?
For a long time they were my favourite power metal band, until their change of direction a few years back.
For me their first 4 albums are almost faultless, essential power metal albums.
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Yes, like Iron Maiden, Evergrey should just be referred to as a metal band. I see this as being the case with many bands ;p
I heard that In Search of Truth is a concept album based on the non-fiction book 'Communion' by Whitley Strieber. I'm actually a huge fan of Whitley Strieber's work, both his non-fiction and his fiction. Communion is based on his experieces with alien abduction. His novel '2012: The War For Souls' is an awesome fiction novel i recommend to everyone on earth! Just sayin'. I'm surprised I have yet to listen to more Evergrey based on this, In Search of Truth in particular. I must get on that pronto!
Cold is a good word to describe their music. There is definately a coldness and a greyness to what i'v heard of them. The songs off Recreation Day I used to listen to were soooo great! The melodies were amazing, and as a whole those songs had a big effect on me. Don't remember the names of them though. I'll be sure to buy Recreation Day and other albums buy them.
And the production on Helloween's last 2 CDs are a lot better then Gambling. And as a whole they're better albums. Helloween have been very consistent the last few years. More consistent then they have ever been, and they've been around for awhile. I think the addition of Sascha has added some longevity to the band. And the new Drummer Dani is really really good. Creatively, he doesn't write songs like Uli Kusch did, but when it comes to talent as a drummer, Dani is better, or so it appears. Unlike every other Helloween record, i have really enjoyed and payed attention to the drumming on the last 2. Wanna Be God is such a cool song!
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Interesting end of year list:
https://blackwindmetal.com/kings-among-men-black-wind-metals-official-top-power-metal-of-2013/
Not even heard of many of these, something to check out though.
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Interesting end of year list:
https://blackwindmetal.com/kings-among-men-black-wind-metals-official-top-power-metal-of-2013/
Not even heard of many of these, something to check out though.
Wow, amazing to see Lord on this list. Terrific metal album.
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Interesting end of year list:
https://blackwindmetal.com/kings-among-men-black-wind-metals-official-top-power-metal-of-2013/
Not even heard of many of these, something to check out though.
Wow, amazing to see Lord on this list. Terrific metal album.
It was one of my lower ranked one's from 2013. Maybe I need to re-listen to it. DGM and Serenity on the other hand were awesome. Can't say I'd call Avantasia Power Metal. Don't have any of the others.
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DGM hasn't grabbed me. It came out the same day as Odd Dimension and I bought both together. I just took to OD more.
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DGM hasn't grabbed me. It came out the same day as Odd Dimension and I bought both together. I just took to OD more.
Give Momentum another shot. One of my top 5 from '13.
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I have that Bane of Winterstorm album and holy fuck, it out does Rhapsody for sheer bombastic over the topness. :metal
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Judging by the album covers, pretty much all the bands on that list strike me as being fantasy based power metal. Except Helloween. Was watching the power metal episode of that show Metal Evolution. Kind of funny how Helloween started the power metal thing, and all the bands that are considered their successor's and contemporaries are playing fantasy based PM, while Helloween still rides alongside them (or above) doing their brand of PM without fantasy tropes.
But yea, I'm starting to discover that power metal isn't exactly my thing. I mean, I like Helloween, Masterplan, and some other bands like Evergrey or Nevermore that are sometimes PM. But other new bands i try that are branded PM i can't get into. Stuff like Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica and Hammerfall sound too bland to me. Kind of like the 2 first Keepers albums sound to me. I guess I'm just into more unique sounding metal. Something like Dragonforce, where they're admittedly just trying to be as fast as possible, while having typical fantasy pm traits- it just doesn't work for me.A big factor is most of these bands have Kiske sounding vocalists. The bands I mentioned as liking have very unique vocalist considering their mainly pm bands.
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It's funny, I love power metal, but I've always been bored by Helloween. :lol
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I think they're the best of the best. I can see why people called them a faster Iron Maiden at first.
Do bands like these get played on the radio, anywhere?
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Do bands like these get played on the radio, anywhere?
Maybe on Neptune.
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I don't think so. Not in America, at least.
It's been years since I actually listened to the radio...
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I don't listen to the radio much at all anymore. I'v head some Maiden songs of radio, the hits like Number of the Beast and Run To The Hills. I think that's cool because Maiden is often put in the same group as these bands we're talking about. And Priest, who obviously have more commercial acceptance.
But I'v never heard a newer Maiden song on the radio, like BNW stuff and everything after. I saw MAiden on A really popular talk show here in Canada, on CBC. This was when AMOLAD was new. They even showed clips of the video for Different World. But I'v never heard it on the radio. And I'm also curious as to whether or not new Judas Priests get radioplay. Priest is very well known here and their big hits like Breakin the Law are played a lot.
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The only radio play those sort of bands get is the "classic" stations, and they're not going to play anything released after the 1980s or so.
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In Russia you can hear Helloween sometimes on Rock FM. I don't listen to radio almost at all, but when I decided to give it a go once, I was pleasantly surprised to recognize If I Could Fly there.
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Judging by the album covers, pretty much all the bands on that list strike me as being fantasy based power metal. Except Helloween.
I haven't heard the new Stratovarius album, but at least on the other albums they usually write about life and realistic themes.
Do bands like these get played on the radio, anywhere?
Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica (plus Nightwish if you count them as PM) have been pretty successful in Finland, receiving gold discs for their albums and getting some airplay as well.
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Notepad, have you checked out Sabaton?
They are my favourite PM bands for the last year since I discovered them (very late)
All bar a couple of songs, lyrics are about historic event/wars.
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I know that If I Could Fly was a huge hit.....somewhere. Germany probably. The only time i think I'll see or hear Helloween is around Halloween, when the music video for 'Halloween" is sometimes shown late at night around Halloween. I was in Europe once, and I remember going to a couple record stores, one of them in Budapest, and seeing all these awesome CDs I'd never find where i live. I remember seeing Andi Deris solo albums, any Helloween record i could find, you name it, this type of metal is so much popular there. That's where i bought ARKs Burn The Sun, and have not stop loving it. This is when i was around 13 or 14, so i couldn't buy all my heart desired ;(
gazinwales, I'v seen Sabaton suggest a few times now to me. I'll have to check them out. I need to be more adventurous like i used to be. A lot of the bands i listen to i found out cuz most of them were somehow, even in really distant ways, related to Helloween. Hell, I only got into Helloween cuz i saw their name listed as touring with BLAZE and thought they had a cool name. Before this when i was younger i used to say that Halloween should be renamed Helloween. It made no sense to me that it wasn't.....
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Most if not all Sabaton songs have a lots of keyboards, so I don't hear any Helloween influences.
Have a look on YT for their recent live release, Swedish Empire Live.
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I don't know man. I'll have to check them out a second time. I keep hearing about them.
I remember hearing a song by Metallium a few years ago that i really enjoyed. Maybe I'll check them out again. Stratovarious I just cannot get into. Dragonforce just sounds like an even faster version of them. I don't really think that, but you get what i mean ;p These are all bands that are so Kiske and Keepers influenced. I'd rather bands influenced by, say, The Dark Ride, or Better Than Raw ;D
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Even stop to think just why so many bands bear the Kiske era Helloween era influences and not the Deris stuff :xbones ?
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Even stop to think just why so many bands bear the Kiske era Helloween era influences and not the Deris stuff :xbones ?
I think I know why. First of all, they're held up as the greatest in it's genre (the 2 keepers). It has a lot to do with it's legacy. They're the main example for what power metal should be like. And Helloween with Deris, well...no longer has the prototypical power metal voice as their vocalist.
Helloween strayed for a few albums. I wouldn't even really say Master of The Rings is a total power metal album. I'd say Time Of The Oath, and then Better Than Raw is where they wen't back to their roots. And if you look at, say, their last 3 or 4 albums, musically they arn't that different from the Keepers. They just sound more modern, plus they have songs where they expiriment more. They're no longer strictly a power metal band.
I just don't like hearing all these bands and such mention Helloween as a main influence. Because i know they're only talking about the Keepers albums.
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I don't see why that would bother you. Bands that cite Metallica as in influence are almost invariably referring just to the first four albums.
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I just don't like hearing all these bands and such mention Helloween as a main influence. Because i know they're only talking about the Keepers albums.
Why would that bother you? Those albums were made almost 30 years ago. They helped define a whole genre of music. Current Helloween is excellent and live in no era's shadow, but the Keepers albums were groundbreaking.
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I just don't like hearing all these bands and such mention Helloween as a main influence. Because i know they're only talking about the Keepers albums.
There's nothing you can do about that, and it's fact, that the Keeper albums influenced a generation of bands, none of the Deris album have done anywhere near that. I'm more of a Deris era man myself, but there's no denying what the band did with those albums.
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Oh I totally understand why the Keepers are legendary and such a big influence. It doesn't really bother me, not a lot ;p. I think it has to do with all the comments i see bagging on Deris and praising Kiske. I just assume when i hear Helloween named as an influence by someone or a band, i'm kind of assuming they're the people who also hate Deris. But I'm sure that's not totally true. What it really has to do with is my personal taste in music; I love all the Deris albums and I'm not a giant fan of the 2 Keepers. Therefor I think everyone else is wrong ;0
It also has to do with the fact that a lot of what Helloween has beeing doing on their last 4 or so albums isn't that different from the style they had on Keepers. Other then the vocals. My feelings are that Helloween have SURPASSED what they accomplished on the Keepers.
BTW my favorite song from the keepers-era is Rise And Fall. They need to play that live!!!!! with Andi !!!!!!!!!
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I went to Sydney's specialist metal shop after work today and picked up Orden Ogan 'Easton Hope'
Had half a listen in the car and it's equal to the other OO album I own 'To The End'.
It's really everything I want and enjoy about modern power metal.
Lots of fast songs, tonnes melody great songs anthemic chorus, all wrapped up in very crisp production and mix.
Plus any band that does a cool song and funny video about pirates can't be too bad :yarr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8O1LpzC1Po
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I went to Sydney's specialist metal shop after work today and picked up Orden Ogan 'Easton Hope'
Had half a listen in the car and it's equal to the other OO album I own 'To The End'.
It's really everything I want and enjoy about modern power metal.
Lots of fast songs, tonnes melody great songs anthemic chorus, all wrapped up in very crisp production and mix.
Plus any band that does a cool song and funny video about pirates can't be too bad :yarr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8O1LpzC1Po
Is that Utopia?
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Yep is sure was.
Being buying my metal from them since 1982.
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I'm planning a few days in Sydney for the first time in winter sometime, and this is going to be my first destination. Looks amazing.
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The shop isn't as big as they have had in the past at previous locations, but they still have a pretty decent selection.
I'm sure you'll be a lot poorer after a visit :metal
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The shop isn't as big as they have had in the past at previous locations, but they still have a pretty decent selection.
I'm sure you'll be a lot poorer after a visit :metal
Yeah, I'm preparing myself for that. :lol
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Orden Ogan get the :tup from me. Not heard Easton Hope though.
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Yeah Easton Hope is really good, going to get their debut album Vale next.
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Been listening to Edguy's Hellfire Club lately. Great stuff. In the past I'v compared Edguy and their newer stuff in particular to recent Helloween. More the idea of what they're doing, but in sound they're similar too.
But I heard Mandrake for the first time yesterday. My god does it ever remind me of classic Helloween. The music and melodies and guitar sounds and solo's - incredibly similar to Keepers Pt. 1 and 2. For some reason I'v seen people compare Edguy to Maiden, and have seen them be called the 'next' Iron Maiden. But now, they're the newer Helloween. At least, the Keepers-era helloween, the one's so many prefer ;p
Sammet has a rasp in his voice, yet there are times in some chorus's where he goes high and sounds very similar to Kiske. Overall, Mandrake just sounds incredibly like early Helloween, and sometimes like recent Helloween (songs like Salvation or The Saints).
Yet I think this Mandrake album is much better then the Keepers cds. Anyone else notice the similarity?
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I swear, man, it's like you try to connect everything to Helloween. :lol
But yeah, most power metal is going to be pretty heavily influenced by Helloween. As far as the Maiden comparisons, Bruce Dickinson is Tobi's favorite singer and main influence.
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I played the Keepers CDs this week and was quite underwhelmed (liked them much less than I remember- aside from the odd song ) - would much rather listen to Mandrake or current day Helloween.
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I tried listening to one of the Keepers albums a while ago, and I just didn't care for it. It's kind of odd, I pretty much love the whole genre of power metal except for its (arguable) progenitors. :lol
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I swear, man, it's like you try to connect everything to Helloween. :lol
Indeed :lol
Tony Kakko (Sonata Arctica) has said he never was a Helloween fan, but SA isn't (wasn't) the most typical power metal band anyway.
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Yeah, I've always liked Sonata's take on power metal.
Not that I have anything against dragons and elves, but diversity is nice sometimes. :P
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I have a Dragonforce album on my iPod I'v yet to listen to. I have never listened to Dragonforce before. I remember a lot of kids back in highschool (i live in north america and this was like 5 years ago) talking about Dragonforce. Not Stratovarius or Hammerfall, just Dragonforce. They seem to have broken through to the US in a pretty big way, have they not(for a PM band)?
And Shadow Ninja, i just couldn't help but notice this. I was just listening to Mandrake like 3 hours ago and it sounds REMARKABLY like old Helloween. It's like they weren't taking influence from their quote-unquote style, but rather their "sound". Like they wanted to sound like Keeper of the 7 Keys Part 3, by Helloween. And i'm not joking, i mean this.
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This pretty much sums up Dragonforce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNr9wFk3RQ
Naw I actually really like DF!
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DragonForce is pretty big. They're the "pop" version of power metal. I love 'em, though.
Personally, I can't say I ever heard too much Helloween in Edguy, other than the obvious PM trademarks. Though, part of that is probably because I don't care for Helloween enough to listen to them for an extended period of time. :lol
edit: Yeah, they're not known for being great live, though people sometimes exaggerate how bad they are. Plus, I think it's been better with their new singer. I don't really care about live music, though, so as long as their studio stuff is good, I'm a happy camper. syl
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Since I might possibly go to the Iced Earth, Sabaton show. What's a good album to start with Sabaton
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Any of them, honestly. They're all cut from the same mold. You might just want to go with Carolus Rex, their newest one, as I imagine they'll be playing a lot from it.
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Any of them, honestly. They're all cut from the same mold. You might just want to go with Carolus Rex, their newest one, as I imagine they'll be playing a lot from it.
I wouldn't know - haven't heard it - but it's been said that the Swedish version of Carolus Rex flows much better. Anyone vouch for that?
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I haven't heard the entire album, but from what I have heard, I prefer the Swedish version. I'm not sure how one would get ahold of it, though. Does Amazon sell both versions?
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This pretty much sums up Dragonforce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNr9wFk3RQ
Naw I actually really like DF!
I really don't listen to Dragonforce, or i'm yet to try them out. I don't know where the Fail is in that song.
I love Edguy's Lavatory Love Machine. As with most music of this type, the lyrics can be very hard to understand. But I just watched a video with the lyrics, and they're fuckin amazing.
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This pretty much sums up Dragonforce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNr9wFk3RQ
Naw I actually really like DF!
I really don't listen to Dragonforce, or i'm yet to try them out. I don't know where the Fail is in that song.
Let's put it like this, DF are not known for doing their songs justice live and who can blame them, their songs are very hard to play live. But when you also add the fact that the guitarists do alot of shenanigans on stage while playing the end results is not that great. Seriously you need to watch that again, a hint: Watch and listen to the guitarists...
Again I love DF and their studio albums. Inhuman Rampage is a landmark within the Power Metal scene, I remember very vividly the first time I saw the Through the Fire and Flames video on TV and I couldn't believe the pure energy and speed their music had, I never heard anything like that before and that was around 2006 I think. Because of the speed of the music and the intricate guitar parts they have their music is very hard to play live, that's just how it is. Sadly it has become a gag on the web. They also got alot of fame because the song Through the Fire and Flames became a hit on Guitar Hero and when something gets ridicously popular like that song did, it usually tends to get out of hand very quickly. I know people that never listen to anything metal but they do know that one song by Dragonforce because of that stupid game. :lol
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This pretty much sums up Dragonforce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aNr9wFk3RQ
Naw I actually really like DF!
I really don't listen to Dragonforce, or i'm yet to try them out. I don't know where the Fail is in that song.
I love Edguy's Lavatory Love Machine. As with most music of this type, the lyrics can be very hard to understand. But I just watched a video with the lyrics, and they're fuckin amazing.
Luckily the cd comes with a handy booklet with all the lyrics written in it. I find them very handy. :biggrin:
Bloody digital downloads >:( Old man rant over.
And I love LLM. From a very good Edguy album.
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Most album downloads come with digital booklets now, don't they?
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Most album downloads come with digital booklets now, don't they?
Not in my (admittedly limited) experience.
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I hardly ever download, so I can't really say either, but I seem to remember Amazon having "digital booklet" listed on some of their items. Though, I don't know how widespread that is.
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The way the newer Edguy albums sound is not as power-metal. They're power-metal-is, but more just 'classic metal'.
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I'd say they are more of a hard rock/metal sort of thing.
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I would say that the first 3 Edguy are more power metal-ish.
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I would say that the first 3 Edguy are more power metal-ish.
Yup and I love them.
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The earlier Edguy albums are definitely more power metal-ish. But listening to Rocket Ride today, there are still elements of power metal. Some songs of course simply aren't, but some are. No matter what Edguy tries new, they will always continue to write power-metal-ish chorus's on most of their songs.
I found it interesting reading reviews of Hellfire Club, because most seem to love it. Don't get me wrong, I really like it too, but it was definitely the start of Edguy's transformation. Many think it's a power metal classic. They definately varied it more then usual up until that point. That's one of the reasons i compare them to what Helloween's been doing recently. They're so much more then a classic euro-type power-metal band.
And since i'v been really getting into Edguy, I'd like to announce here the title of their next album:
'SPACE POLICE - DEFENDERS OF THE CROWN'
I have yet to hear anyhing else about it. I'm expecting more Rocket Ride or Age of The Joker style Edguy. I do hope there is more of the style they had on Mandrake, which to me is just classic!
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I have zero expectations from Edguy, the last 2 as I have already commented on, are very poor.
It remains to be seen if Tobi is sharing any songwriting credits with the other guys?
I think he has put all his golden eggs into the Avantasia basket, leaving Edguy a poor second best for a number of years now.
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Tobi is credited for writing pretty much everything, on all Edguy albums. I'v heard the guitarist writes every guitar solo, and i wouldn't be surprised, but he doesn't get any credits. I haven't actually heard any avantasia, but I'v heard that the recent Avantasia have the same hard rock elements to them. Jorn Lande was on their newest one, i heard, was he? Maybe that's why. (Jorn has yet to go 'full Kiske', but he's getting there).
I don't mind Edguy's recent 3 or so albums, but they are quite different from stuff like Mandrake. They no longer sound Helloween or Maiden influenced, like so much of the earlier stuff. I'm not interested in Avantasia. I really hope he starts focusing more on Edguy, because they're awesome, and a 'real' band. The guy is a clown, a show-off, but he makes great music and can sing like a motherfucker! And i guess it's true; he doesn't reach the high notes on the newer Edguy. Maybe he's adjusting the music to that.
Question: tracks 2 and 3 off Rocket Ride remind me very much of other songs I'v heard, well-known songs. Anyone know?
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Jorn wasn't on the last Avantasia, which I think was a brilliant decision (though he was asked to join, but due to being unavailable for the upcoming tour, he didn't end up on the record), and the album won big time because of this in my book. Last Avantasia was very solid, while last two Edguy records were meh. I have to agree with:
I have zero expectations from Edguy
but that means I won't be disappointed with Space Police anyway.
And by the way, there is an official Edguy/Avantasia thread on this board, so if you want, we can keep discussing it there.
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Question: tracks 2 and 3 off Rocket Ride remind me very much of other songs I'v heard, well-known songs. Anyone know?
No idea, do tell.
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https://whiplash.net/materias/melhores/092460-blindguardian.html?refredir=197794&fb_source=message#.UwkKUl5hNT4
Pretty decent top 10, though I've never been an Iced Earth fan, except the live in Athens set.
Great to see the often forgotten Crimson Glory classic at 2.
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https://whiplash.net/materias/melhores/092460-blindguardian.html?refredir=197794&fb_source=message#.UwkKUl5hNT4
Pretty decent top 10, though I've never been an Iced Earth fan, except the live in Athens set.
Great to see the often forgotten Crimson Glory classic at 2.
But Horror Show is just a great album. IE's best for me.
Decent list though I'm not a big fan of Stratovarius or Hammerfall.
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Question: tracks 2 and 3 off Rocket Ride remind me very much of other songs I'v heard, well-known songs. Anyone know?
No idea, do tell.
Yeah, no idea either.
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Yea, tracks 2 and 3 both have chorus's that are incredibly catchy, but yea they sound very familiar. I can't figure out what songs for the life of me!
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Yea, tracks 2 and 3 both have chorus's that are incredibly catchy, but yea they sound very familiar. I can't figure out what songs for the life of me!
Shit, I thought you had the answers!
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If it sounded like I did, oops, I didn't mean for it to sound like that.
Since I first heard Wasted Time and Rocket Ride they sounded familiar to me. Maybe, like, Journey. I really can't say. Those two songs are some of my favorites off of Rocket Ride.
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Yea, tracks 2 and 3 both have chorus's that are incredibly catchy, but yea they sound very familiar. I can't figure out what songs for the life of me!
oh.......
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Question: tracks 2 and 3 off Rocket Ride remind me very much of other songs I'v heard, well-known songs. Anyone know?
The riff at the start of track 2 has a Saxon/NWOBHM feel about it. I couldn't tell you exactly which song though.
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I really find Rocket Ride and Wasted Time to be the best songs off of RR. Those guys know how to make catchy music, that's for sure.
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Some really surprising, yet equally good news for Aussie power metal lovers.
Gloryhammer are touring down under in April/May.
Lots of dates on this pub/club tour.
https://www.gloryhammer.com/
If you haven't checked them out, please do, one of the best power metal album released in the last few years.
(https://www.gloryhammer.com/graphics/australia-tour.jpg)
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Never heard of them. Will check out. :tup
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Yeah, I'm not familiar with this band either. But that's an impressive tour of the east coast.
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Yeah, I'm not familiar with this band either. But that's an impressive tour of the east coast.
Wolf, if you don't mind me asking, where are you in Australia?
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Yeah, I'm not familiar with this band either. But that's an impressive tour of the east coast.
Wolf, if you don't mind me asking, where are you in Australia?
South East Queensland. Halfway between the city and the Gold Coast.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTW30Q4B3Go
:rollin
How the hell can these guys afford to do an extensive south coast tour? I know the venues are small as shit, but I hope they are not expecting big numbers. Can't say I've even seen any of these guys cd's instore.
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OH.
The band by the guy from Alestorm. I thought it was familar sounding. Always thought they were taking the piss out of symphonic power metal myself. Are they serious? :lol
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I didn't take that video seriously at all.
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Given the people involved, yeah, this isn't serious. :lol
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I too don't know how this tour is going to break even, all the venues I guess are pretty small and only hold a couple hundred max, tickets are around $28!!!
Yeah probably not that too serious, but as I said the album is killer, my best album of 2013 and the best power metal album I've heard in the last few years.
Anathema have just announced a 3 date Aussie tour.
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The band by the guy from Alestorm. I thought it was familar sounding. Always thought they were taking the piss out of symphonic power metal myself. Are they serious? :lol
Terry Gilliam: "Americans are good at laughing at other people. British are good at laughing at themselves".
They've got that very British sensibility of doing something seriously whilst not taking themselves seriously.
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I too don't know how this tour is going to break even, all the venues I guess are pretty small and only hold a couple hundred max, tickets are around $28!!!
Yeah probably not that too serious, but as I said the album is killer, my best album of 2013 and the best power metal album I've heard in the last few years.
Anathema have just announced a 3 date Aussie tour.
Wow.
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New Gamma Ray song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkF-ErMnwNo
Pretty damn epic.
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New Gamma Ray song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkF-ErMnwNo
Pretty damn epic.
Heard that yesterday. Rxcellent. Bodes well for the album.
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Some damn good Power Metal out of the Twin Cities, I think you'll dig these guys:
https://noblebeastofman.bandcamp.com/ (https://noblebeastofman.bandcamp.com/)
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Man i just can't get into Gamma Ray! I used to own a copy of No World Order, and there were a couple songs i liked. I also liked the last softer song. But it just had a very odd sound, that i might have enjoyed a lot more if there was another vocalist singing. I really really think Gamma Ray would have benefited from a better vocalist, i just don't like his voice. He writes some good music, but i can't REALLY get into it because of this, and i don't bother listening to them at all anymore. The guy writes all the music for Gamma Ray, why did he ever leave Helloween? But at the same time, I definitely am a Weikath fan over Hansen, even though Weikath writes much less music personally. Michael Weikath will always be a king of power metal. I will challenge anyone who disagrees. I guarantee songs like Burning Sun and The Saints are better then anything Gamma Ray has done, ever!!!!!! That's power metal right there!!!
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So Notepad........you like Helloween , yes? :neverusethis:
I can't say I've ever been a huge fan of Hansen's voice either. I found that new track above a bit unusual - I thought it had the potential to be fantastic but the guitar sound was a huge letdown.......tinny compared to what it needed to take it where it should've gone.
I pick and choose my Gamma Ray - I never play albums in full. For example the debut Heading For Tomorrow is chock full of filler but the title track is a ripper.
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I'll take Gamma Ray over Helloween, and Kai over Michael as a songwriter any day. I admit, his voice isnt great, but I don't know, can't imagine Gamma Ray with another vocalist these days.
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Just received the new Gamma Ray and already given it one spin, it's pretty fucking good.
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I've received it yesterday, havent had a chance to listen yet, maybe today. Need to learn lyrics till 25th April. :P The digipack itself is kinda flimsy though.
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I've received it yesterday, havent had a chance to listen yet, maybe today. Need to learn lyrics till 25th April. :P The digipack itself is kinda flimsy though.
Yeah, it is, but I like the layout with the pics and stuff, it's pretty well done. Love the old school Powerplant dress up too. Definitely giving it a classic feel.
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I gave it a listen, and my first impression is that it's fucking awesome. The only songs I don't like are Pale Rider and Born to Fly, while Avalon, Hellbent, Master of Confusion, Time for Deliverance, Seven and the title track are top notch. This is a huge improvement over their last effort, I agree. I didn't hold much hope for this record, but it actually exceeded all my expectations.
Looking forward to see them live, but I think I'll get some place near the bar this time. Last time (on their tour with Helloween) the audience turned into a mosh pit on Empire of the Undead, and that wasn't a pleasant time. The song is thrashy indeed, but still, no need to lose your head.
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Born to Fly is actually one of my favs, it's pretty generic but I love it. I Will Return is incredible too. Demonseed is something different for the band too.
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Yeah, I Will Return is pretty good, just loved the other songs more from the first listen. Demonseed may grow on me, but as of now, I remember only the quite jarring intro and some bits here and there.
I think there are no weak tracks, just the ones I don't like. Born to Fly happens to be one of those, but it may change over the days. I'm certainly gonna spin this album few times more.
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The only semi weak song for me is Time For Deliverance. It's a classic GR ballad, but a shameless We Are the Champions rip off, and pretty much a reworking of No Need to Cry.
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I'm a sucker for ballads so I love it. :lol
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Gamma Ray have always done some of the greatest metal ballads I've ever heard.
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Some vids of Tobi performing with Gamma Ray. Apparantely, Kai's voice has some issues so they got Tobi to sing. Also Fabio Lione helped out too.
Besides Tobi not really knowing the songs, he sounds great on these.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cwdu0TLvXMc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xt07-yfUdbo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=z8K1dkAcv-M
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Yeah, he's fine. I also like they've dropped Pale Rider off the setlist, hope it stays that way.
edit: I'm worrying though, will Kai recover until the Moscow concert? I know Tobi's awesome, but I kinda want to hear Kai singing again. He's got this certain charisma when singing.
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Oh my, Fabio Leone doing some vocals for Gamma Ray?? WOW!
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One of my fave bands, Falconer, that is always so consistent, is releasing a new album in June.
https://youtu.be/Y595heHNifs
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Good to hear! I love the vocals of Mathias Blad.
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i really need to get into more power metal bands. The only ones i'm really into are Edguy and Helloween. And i guess Masterplan, but they're new singer is not the greatest.
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i really need to get into more power metal bands. The only ones i'm really into are Edguy and Helloween. And i guess Masterplan, but they're new singer is not the greatest.
:youfail:
Rick Altzi is amazing.
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i really need to get into more power metal bands. The only ones i'm really into are Edguy and Helloween. And i guess Masterplan, but they're new singer is not the greatest.
:youfail:
Rick Altzi is amazing.
I don't know the name of the guy who sang on MKII, but he was good. That guy was a pretty good replacement for Lande. But this Rick Altzi guy? He's ok, but he is just missing something. He doesn't have the range, he can't do the high notes like Jorn, and i think that is a Masterplan singer needs to be able to do. It bugs me kinda how they have to keep going for these 'husky' sounding singers when replacing Jorn. Doesn't hurt to try something new. But i can get past Altzi's shortcomings, i just wish he had more range. The songs on the new album though are quite good IMO. Lots of melody. That Grapow guys knows what makes a great Power Metal song. I do need to listen to the album more though, because I'm thinking of the last songs where Grapow sings with Altzi, and I don't remember being very impressed..
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Mike Dimeo sang on MK2 and he was great. Altzi IMO is an even better replacement and the last album was one of the best of the year.
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One listen into Gamma Ray's new album, and I freaking love it!!! WOW!!
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One listen into Gamma Ray's new album, and I freaking love it!!! WOW!!
It's definitely good. It doesn't seem to have the lasting power that I look for in a classic album, but they certainly did deliver.
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Fairyland is GOAT
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Fairyland is GOAT
I've only got Score to a New Beginning, but it's fucking awesome.
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Fairyland is GOAT
I've only got Score to a New Beginning, but it's fucking awesome.
Of Wars in Osyrhia is probably my favorite. But they're all unapologetic power metal. For that, I can respect and love them. Similarly, Rhapsody/Rhapsody of Fire (the ones with Fabio).
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So my latest ultra cheesy symphonic power metal love is Ancient Bards' new one, A New Dawn Ending. It steps a little outside of the Rhapsody cheese box because the singer is female, but other than that, it's pretty much very well done Rhapsody styled power metal, down to the cringe worthy spoken word moments and the mandatory epic length song with the Forces of Evil represented by extreme metal vocals. Plus Fabio Leone sings on one song and it's pretty brilliant. Can't imagine anyone who likes Rhapsody wouldn't like this band.
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Yeah, Ancients Bards are pretty solid. Though you did hit the nail on the head with your descriptulion - if Ancient Bards wouldn't have a chick singing, then they could pretty much BE Rhapsody, for all intents and purposes.
Speaking of Rhapsody, I have been listening to their early stuff quite a bit, and I have to say that the debut album contains some of my favourite guitar playing from Luca Turili - I'm not quite sure what it is, but especially his soloing had something magical on that album that I find missing on later records. Check out the solos in Lord of the Thunder, for example, that's one of Rhapsody's best instrumental sections, if not THE best.
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I do have a soft spot for the first two Rhapsody albums, before they went insanely over the top. The debut album in particular is far more stripped back and reliant on some really good, occasionally long instrumental sections, rather than 80 piece orchestras and huge choirs and over the top instrumentation. That's it, pulling out the debut later.
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I'm with you on Legendary Tales, but Symphony of Enchanted Lands is a total dud for me. Not as bad as Triumph or Agony, or SoEL2, but still lower half of their discog. The only song I really like is Wisdom of the Kings.
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I checked out Ancient Bards after Sara sung on Ayreon's album. I listened to Soulless Child, and thought it was fabulous. Alas, I haven't gone back to it.
My soft spot for Rhapsody is with Dawn of Victory... it was probably my first truly POWER metal album, so my opinion is biased. I love Turilli... also have his solo album Kings of the Nordic Twilight. Now that I think about it, that is the album that led me to Rhapsody.
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I'v listened to the first Unisonic album a few times and it doesn't do too much for me. It sounds kinda bland, to be honest. It's not really power metal either. But I don't think they said they were making music like that. They've described their music as hard rock mainly.
But I'v just heard the couples clips from their upcoming EP and I gotta say they were impressive. They definitely sounded like power metal songs to me. That's cool. It's too bad they never formed this band back in the 90s or something, I bet they could have been huge.
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I checked out Ancient Bards after Sara sung on Ayreon's album. I listened to Soulless Child, and thought it was fabulous. Alas, I haven't gone back to it.
My soft spot for Rhapsody is with Dawn of Victory... it was probably my first truly POWER metal album, so my opinion is biased. I love Turilli... also have his solo album Kings of the Nordic Twilight. Now that I think about it, that is the album that led me to Rhapsody.
Yeah, I love Dawn Of Veeektooorrrrreeeeeee too. No other Rhapsody album comes close. I like that Luca album too but probably prefer the follow up, Prophet of the Last Eclipse. The Ancient Forest of Elves takes some beating for unintentionally funny metal track of all time.
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For some reason I could never really get into Rhapsody. I have a couple of albums but nothing that really grabbed me.
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Been a Rhapsody fan since pretty much day one, since I saw the name the artwork, concepts and finally the music.
Their catalogue has always been fairly strong, not everything they have done has been perfect, but in general very solid.
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Funny, Tobi used to be kind of a Kiske 'clone' on the early Edguy records. He would go pretty goddamn high with the notes, and very frequently. But listening to him these days really shows how hard he was trying in those days, and how easy it is for Kiske because Kiske can still do it effortlessly not just on recordings but while live. Watching those tapes of Tobi with Gamma Ray, one can see he is no Kiske. And I don't mean that as a bad thing. It just seems like in those days he wanted to be Kiske and Dickinson, but now he embraces his own unique voice.
Just and observation :)
Something else that has crossed my mind recently is that a lot of power metal bands have a neo-classical sound to them. I think Stratovarius has this neo-classical feel to them. And despite the fact that I think early Edguy is the closest anyone has gotten to REALLY REALLY sounding like the keepers albums, early Edguy has this neo-classical style to them. Not new Edguy tho. But Helloween doesn't and never has had this in their sound. It's funny, i was watching a YouTube comparison of Stratovarius and Helloween. They had songs like Mirror Mirror and Steel Tormentor up against Stratovarius songs. And the difference is huge. Helloween actually has a much more modern sound to them. Recent stuff is comparable to dark Judas Priest stuff like Painkiller, yet this band is the founder of the genre that Stratovarius plays, yet the two bands have such a different feeling to them.
I guess what it comes down to is Helloween being a Speed Metal band, not just Power Metal. And Stratovarius is 'symphonic' power metal. What I'm saying is, the whole thing about these 'Helloween clone' bands has been blown out of proportion. Sure they had an influence on the genre and set the groundwork, but they never had that symphonic, neo-classical style to them that so many of these 'clones' use to excess.
That's my weekly Power Metal rant ;)
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I might have said this already, but Helloween were always a speed metal band, back in their glory days of the Keeper albums.
Back then there was no such genre or term as power metal.
I can remember reading about them in magazines and speed metal was the tag, that they were quite rightly given.
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Yeah, Walls of Jericho is just nuts, definite speed metal.
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Yeah, Walls of Jericho is just nuts, definite speed metal.
I always just thought of them as a German Iron Maiden, a bit heavier, certainly. But yeah, I remember the speed metal tag being used.
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Yes, but that was before the term power metal came to be. Now they are known as the originators of the power metal genre.
Not all power metal bands have a symphonic or neoclassical element to their music,that's true. But most have fantasy lyrics. Its interesting to me how they are the one of the few power metal bands without these elements in their music, yet they are the inventors of the genre. But these things do kinda make them the German iron maiden, but faster. And Maiden is very influential on the genre.
And I don't really consider speed metal a genre. It's a very vague and loosely used term. Metallica is also speed metal, and obviously Helloween and Metallica are far from similar. (and I know about walls of Jericho, but that was a different time for the band. He closest things since is 7 Sinners, and it's not very similar to WoJ)
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/blackwelder-featuring-primal-fear-dio-disciples-ex-angra-members-the-night-of-new-moon-song-streaming/
Click to hear a song from the new band called Blackwelder. The lineup is;
Ralf Scheepers (PRIMAL FEAR, ex-GAMMA RAY) - Vocals
Andrew Szucs (SEVEN SERAPHIM) - Guitar
Bjorn Englen (DIO DISCIPLES, ex-YNGWIE MALMSTEEN) - Bass
Aquiles Priester (HANGAR, ex-ANGRA) - Drums
Solid power metal, nothing more, nothing less. Ralf makes this an instant check out.
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Sabaton are back with a killer new album
https://youtu.be/RhmHSAClG1c
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OMG, sabaton kicked ass. Haha, they played an extra song and they didn't snap until they finished the song. Was pretty funny as fuck.
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Does anyone else agree that there is a big difference between Speed Metal and Power Metal? Because alot of band of one genre are often described as the other. To me, the Painkiller album by JP is speed metal. Stratovarius is Power Metal. Discuss.
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Power metal to me utilizes Orcchestra and harmonies. Speed Metal is what I'd consider Nevermore.
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Power metal is bands like Gamma Ray, Edguy, Hammerfall, later Helloween, later Blind Guardian, Rhpasody etc.
Speed Metal is hard to define but I'd say stuff like early Helloween, early Blind Guaridan, Riot, some Nevermore, even Metal Church, even more thrashier stuff like Kreator, Annihilator and Venom.
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The early Blind Guardian albums really do sound like Walls of Jericho. It's amazing. Walls of Jericho is an interesting album. There's no melody, very thrashy, very little variation within the songs.....i don't like it. Speed metal, power metal- throughout their career, the pumpkins have mixed both. Yet they sound nothing like any other speed or power metal bands. 7 Sinners is straight-up speed metal (well, mostly), what other bands sound like the Deris incarnation of Helloween? You cannot name any, I guarantee ;)
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Speaking of Edguy, anyone else got the new album, "Space Police" ?
It's pretty good. :metal
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OMG, sabaton kicked ass. Haha, they played an extra song and they didn't snap until they finished the song. Was pretty funny as fuck.
Good thing they weren't opening for Symphony X. Their tour manager would have surely killed them. He almost blew a gasket when Powerglove played over their time.
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Speaking of Edguy, anyone else got the new album, "Space Police" ?
It's pretty good. :metal
Finally received my copy in the mail last night. Haven't listened to it yet, but very much looking forward to it.
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Speaking of Edguy, anyone else got the new album, "Space Police" ?
It's pretty good. :metal
You like Edguy, Kirk?
Im probably a month or two from getting it.
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Unisonic - For the Kingdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08wDeWQqWnw
Pretty good.
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Space Police is awesome! As some may have noticed, Helloween is possibly my favorite band. Well, I'v been going thru a helloween phase. But I think Edguy is now on the same level as them. I'v always thought Helloween was one of the biggest german metal bands. But considering the sales for Space Police, I think Edguy may take that title. Tobi recently said Edguy is one of the biggest international (i think) bands to come out of Germany. I wonder how true that is.
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NOOOO way, I would have never guessed that you like Helloween???
So Space Police sales are that good?
I have always regarded Blind Guardian as equal to Helloween in the German Metal popularity stakes.
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NOOOO way, I would have never guessed that you like Helloween???
:lol
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Yes apparently Space Police is doing very very well in certain countries. I think it got to #2 in Germany or something.
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01. Hector's Hymn
02. (r)Evolution
03. Bushido
04. Live Life Loud
05. Ex Inferis
06. We Won't Back Down
07. Winter Is Coming
08. Origins
09. Tainted Metal
10. Evil Incarnate
11. Wildfire
August 29. Last one was actually really good.
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I find Hammerfall to be very hit or miss. Havent heard anything from the last few releases.
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I find Hammerfall to be very hit or miss. Havent heard anything from the last few releases.
Last one was a great return to form. The last few before that were average.
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I didn't care for Infected at all, and I also found No Sacrifice No Victory quite weak as well. I loved Threshold, though.
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I find them about as boring as Metal can get. Predictable, unoriginal and safe. With choruses I'd expect to hear in church (if I ever went).
Just don't see the attraction.
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I really like Hammerfall, plus their singer is fantastic.
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I find them about as boring as Metal can get. Predictable, unoriginal and safe. With choruses I'd expect to hear in church (if I ever went).
Just don't see the attraction.
I hear ya, Lowdz. They're not original. In any way. ;D
But let me say this. I got into Hammerfall around 1999, when Legacy Of Kings came out. At that time, the bands I grew up on were kind of stagnant and hadn't released anything decent in years. I heard Heeding The Call and it reminded me of Keepers era Helloween.
I instantly fell in love with them as they encapsulated a lot of my favorite bands from the 80's that I grew up on. Bands like Helloween, Dio, Saxon, Accept, even Dokken. They are really like an 80's metal tribute band that does originals. Now Hammerfall's problem is that while they filled a void, especially in the late 90's, all of the aforementioned bands have re-upped their games and have come back with some great albums between them. Hammerfall, unfortunately, has not really grown in any way, and they seem less inspired than when they started. That said, I could take Hammerfall's 15 best songs and put them up against anybody's!
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Their first three albums are power metal classics.
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Their first three albums are power metal classics.
Yeah, exactly. And while I could pick some great tunes from the rest of their catalog, they've basically been stuck in the mud ever since Renegade came out..
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Their first three albums are power metal classics.
Yeah, exactly. And while I could pick some great tunes from the rest of their catalog, they've basically been stuck in the mud ever since Renegade came out..
I could pretty much agree with that. I forgot about Crimson Thunder though, that one was pretty good too.
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Yes, it was. A great sounding album as well.
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I'm a bit like Lowdz when it comes to Hammerall............although I do have Legacy of Kings so I must've thought that was okay. If I get the occasional need for some metal cheese I'd usually go for Manowar's Kings of Metal.
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I think Manowar and Grim Reaper do cheese metal better than Hammerfall.
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Gotta check out Grim Reaper.
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Gotta check out Grim Reaper.
They never did anything for me.
And I love early Man0waR.
I did get Renegade but as I say, it was boring. Tried a couple of others that came after it but nah, not for me.
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Well, I'm not a huge fan of fantasy type stuff, but I'v heard some Hammerfall. From what I remember, they didn't have a symphonic element to them, at least the songs I'v heard. And I like that. It was just fast, guitar driven metal, and that's cool. Not like that Stratovarius garbage ;p
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Not like that Stratovarius garbage ;p
Hmmmm....
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Yup I chose to ignore the comment.....
Accept are touring Australia in October, might check them out.
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This sounds pretty good. its got some pedigree with Urban Breed on vocals, Roland Grapow and Tommen Stauch from Blind Guardian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBxu6SAXHQ
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Edguy has come a long, long way from their early stereotypical power metal. Since Hellfire Club they have had the most unique sound and are unlike any other band out there. There is no one like them. So what if their newer music no longer sounds like Keeper of The 7 Keys and Seventh Son. They now have a clear Edguy sound.
What I like about Space Police is that the album as a whole has a sound/atmosphere. But within it a ton of variety. Usually their albums don't have a atmosphere throughout. For example, a lot of songs off of Rocket Ride sound like they could be off of AoJ, or vice versa.
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This sounds pretty good. its got some pedigree with Urban Breed on vocals, Roland Grapow and Tommen Stauch from Blind Guardian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBxu6SAXHQ
:tup
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This sounds pretty good. its got some pedigree with Urban Breed on vocals, Roland Grapow and Tommen Stauch from Blind Guardian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBxu6SAXHQ
Yeah, nothing new here, but sounding really solid. Will definitely pick this up. Terrible name though.
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Hammerfall - Bushido (New song) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcQMOy23KY)
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:tup
Hammerfall - Bushido (New song) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcQMOy23KY)
Standard Hammerfall. No surprises here.
I like it.
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This sounds pretty good. its got some pedigree with Urban Breed on vocals, Roland Grapow and Tommen Stauch from Blind Guardian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SBxu6SAXHQ
Yeah, nothing new here, but sounding really solid. Will definitely pick this up. Terrible name though.
Agreed... if it's got Roland from Masterplan, I'm certain to enjoy it.
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Hammerfall - Bushido (New song) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUcQMOy23KY)
Like Tim said, standard Hammerfall.
For the most part, Hammerfall does nothing for me. Its all decent stuff, but nothing I want to go out of my way to listen to.
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Hammerfall have never done anything for me at all.
Never owned one of their albums (or mp3) and never will :metal
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Hammerfall have never done anything for me at all.
Never owned one of their albums (or mp3) and never will :metal
It's fine that you don't like them but I don't see the reason to celebrate the fact that you don't like them. :lol
Legacy of Kings is a really solid album and the one album that got me into Power Metal back in the day.
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Seriously?
I never said they sucked, or were the worst band in history.
My comment was hardly celebrating, as a power metal fan and regular contributor to this thread
I think I'm entitled to state my opinion on any band?
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Seriously?
I never said they sucked, or were the worst band in history.
My comment was hardly celebrating, as a power metal fan and regular contributor to this thread
I think I'm entitled to state my opinion on any band?
Come on, of course you are....I never said you weren't entitled to state your opinion and I clearly didn't say you thought they were the worst band in history because that trophy I think we can all agree would not go to HF, certainly not if we're talking about bands outside the PM genre....
Hammerfall have never done anything for me at all.
Never owned one of their albums (or mp3) and never will :metal
Correct me if i'm wrong but I kind of sense a bit of a negative tone towards HF in your post, that's why I assumed you didn't like HF very much which is totally fine. I took the :metal as a form of celebration about you not liking HF very much therefor resulting in you not buying their albums...ever...like in "no chance in hell".....which is again totally fine. I'm not serious about it I just found it funny you put horns after the last sentence.
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I went to a Hammerfall show once. I went to see Into Eternity...I wasn't familiar with Hammerfall at the time.
I met the guys before the show, and they seemed really cool, and I was looking forward to the show. And then they came out to play....wearing chain mail.
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
I might have enjoyed it more if I could have stopped laughing! But at the end of the day, I did have a lot of fun at that show. I honestly just felt like I was at a Spinal Tap show. I just couldn't figure out if it was *supposed* to be parody?
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I'll actually correct myself.
Looking at my CD collection, I have found a double CDR of One Crimson Night and a cardboard sleeve promo of Renegade.
I think I have a promo of the singer CANS solo project too.
I did actually click on the link for the new song and heard the first minute.
I then on YT found a pro shot live festival gig from 2013, I watched 3 songs.
The riffs are solid, the songs decent enough, I think it's just the singer that kills them for me.
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wut. Joacim is the best part of the band for me.
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I think I have a promo of the singer CANS solo project too.
This album is fucking awesome. You should check the first two Hammerfall albums at least. They were my introduction to power metal and made me a fan.
This new song is actually really good and even though as Tim and Jason said, it's your standard Hammerfall it seems really strong and fresh. Looking forward to the album. I was digging that they were doing something different with Infected though, that was a terrific album and a good positive step for the band compared to the couple of albums before that.
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So yea here's a flashback. Back in 1998 me and two friends went to see HF in our hometown. One of my friends knew the club manager which resulted in us getting to meet the band. I'm the totally rad metal dude to the right, I look like twelve but i'm around 15 I think. :lol They were really fun guys and a bit drunk. Really good times!
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Edit: I uploaded some more just for fun.
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I sort of miss Stefan, he was an important part to the band, but I gotta say Pontus' solo in that new song is fucking ace.
That's a badass pic.
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I sort of miss Stefan, he was an important part to the band, but I gotta say Pontus' solo in that new song is fucking ace.
That's a badass pic.
Yea I agree I also kind of miss Patrik Räfling even though Anders is a beast of a drummer I really liked Patriks way of playing.
Thx man!
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Those pics look like so much fun.
You know, I forgot about Patrick for some reason, he was awesome, great drummer.
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Those pics look like so much fun.
You know, I forgot about Patrick for some reason, he was awesome, great drummer.
Yea it was fun, it's always pretty cool when you meet bands before they become big and well known. HF back then were not so big other than in Germany I think. So they were really relaxed backstage and down to earth and everything.
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Does this mean Masterplan is done?
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You know, I forgot about Patrick for some reason, he was awesome, great drummer.
Yeah he was!
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Does this mean Masterplan is done?
Huh?
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Does this mean Masterplan is done?
Huh?
Roland Grapow's main band for the last ten or so years has been Masterplan. They finally found a new vocalist and recorded their most recent album with him. So I'm surprised Roland would join a new band. Unless it's not like a Band band, you know?
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Most metal musicians these days have more than one active band or project.
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Is this new band Roland's in any good? Can someone compare it to any Masterplan or Helloween songs or albums?
Weikath NEVER should have kicked him out.
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Yeah and Kiske and Kai should have stayed to...
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Is this new band Roland's in any good? Can someone compare it to any Masterplan or Helloween songs or albums?
Weikath NEVER should have kicked him out.
Um, I think what you have heard from the sample is as much as anyone else.
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The new Edguy finally arrived in my mail, gave it a few spins. I like the quality of digibook, but the album isn't that memorable at all. It starts out nice with Sabre and Torch, Space Police and Defenders, and I also liked Shadow Eaters, but otherwise it's quite forgettable and bland to my taste. It's a step up from AOTJ for sure, for I disliked that record a lot, but I would take the last Avantasia over this one anytime. Hell, TMOT might just crack my Top 50 and be my favourite Avantasia album, but Space Police... I dunno, just doesn't connect with me.
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The new Edguy finally arrived in my mail, gave it a few spins. I like the quality of digibook, but the album isn't that memorable at all. It starts out nice with Sabre and Torch, Space Police and Defenders, and I also liked Shadow Eaters, but otherwise it's quite forgettable and bland to my taste. It's a step up from AOTJ for sure, for I disliked that record a lot, but I would take the last Avantasia over this one anytime. Hell, TMOT might just crack my Top 50 and be my favourite Avantasia album, but Space Police... I dunno, just doesn't connect with me.
Wow. Its my album of the year.
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The new Edguy finally arrived in my mail, gave it a few spins. I like the quality of digibook, but the album isn't that memorable at all. It starts out nice with Sabre and Torch, Space Police and Defenders, and I also liked Shadow Eaters, but otherwise it's quite forgettable and bland to my taste. It's a step up from AOTJ for sure, for I disliked that record a lot, but I would take the last Avantasia over this one anytime. Hell, TMOT might just crack my Top 50 and be my favourite Avantasia album, but Space Police... I dunno, just doesn't connect with me.
Wow. Its my album of the year.
It is?? WOW. I actually forgot all about it. I'll consider it for my birthday haul next month.
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I would probably make my top 10.
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It's been kind of a slow first half of the year for me, but over the next month there are quite a few CD's I plan on getting..
Unisonic, Accept, Hammerfall, Halcyon Way, Axel Rudi Pell (I know it came out earlier, but I didn't get it, so I'll get the deluxe version coming out soon with the live CD).
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I have ARP. It's a standard ARP, nothing special at all. Out of those, I'm going to get Unisonic too as soon as possible, loved the first one.
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That ARP did nothing for me.
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I would probably make my top 10.
This wrt Edguy
I have ARP. It's a standard ARP, nothing special at all.
And this. I enjoyed the listen, but haven't gone back to it at all. If you've heard one ARP album, you've pretty much heard them all... just some different vocalists depending on the era.
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Helloween just announced (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-enter-studio-in-october/) they'll be entering the studio this October to record a new album for a 2015 release! Woot.
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Let me introduce you guys to Heavenly, my new favorite discovery. They are a French band (singing in English):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaTuG46Ew34&index=8&list=PL79E336FAAF18CBAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9oBpVnm3qU&list=PL79E336FAAF18CBAD&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6ZJP1QyeBo&index=3&list=PL79E336FAAF18CBAD
:metal
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Let me introduce you guys to Heavenly, my new favorite discovery. They are a French band (singing in English):
:metal
No introduction needed here. I love Heavenly, especially their first few albums. Dust To Dust made The TAC Top 50, and Sign Of The Winner is also incredible.
The band blew up after DTD, unfortunately. Frederic Leclerq was a greatt guitarist, who is now wasting his talents playing bass in Dragonforce, though, he has definitely improved their songwriting.
Just checked what you linked . Virus is such a great tune! :metal
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(https://www.metalunderground.com/images/covers/Heavenly_-_Carpe_Diem_cover.jpg)
I have this one. Not sure what attracted me to it. :blush
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I don't remember if I posted this in here or not, but if you guys haven't be sure to check out Lorenguard.
These guys still kick my ass:
https://www.youtube.com/user/LorenguardOfficial
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I got a Heavenly album, it's not bad.
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Heavenly are awesome. Virus is fucking rad.
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New Helloween, thats awesome! Wonder if it will be like the last 2. Really loved what they were going for on them. Their last 3 studios albums actually each have a cohesive feeling to them. Hope they keep it up. Dont want another Rabbit ;p
On another note, does anyone consider Avenged Sevenfold power metal? I know their last album was more classic metal, but i went back and heard a few songs off of City of Evil and some had a PM feel to them. Especially Beast and The Harlot. Awesome. Apparently M Shadows is a huge Helloween fan. Wonder if it's just the Keepers albums he loves though...
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Rabbit is still my fav Helloween.
I don't A7X can be classed as power metal.
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
Great vocal. Song was good but I must be getting old as those cliched lyrics were just plain awful. I know its power metal and kind of expected but jeez they were bad. At least when I listen to Rhapsody Luca will do something awesome on guitar to elevate the cheesiest of songs.
I'll listen to the album though - hope for some variety and it might be decent.
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Yea man that was pretty sweet!
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
Great vocal. Song was good but I must be getting old as those cliched lyrics were just plain awful. I know its power metal and kind of expected but jeez they were bad. At least when I listen to Rhapsody Luca will do something awesome on guitar to elevate the cheesiest of songs.
I'll listen to the album though - hope for some variety and it might be decent.
I really enjoy Hammerfall for what they are though. You know, when I got into them (around 1999) they were a great find for a guy like me who was into 80's bands like Saxon, Accept, Dio, Dokken. Bands that were pretty much done by that point. Now Accept and Saxon are now making incredible albums, you might think there's not really a place for Hammerfall now. But they hit a sweet spot for me most of the time. I'm really looking forward to this album.
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I recommend their Dungeon Master consume a lot more meat and vegetables. Dudes overloaded on Gouda...maybe even stopped up a bit.
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
This is pretty awesome. I know they were saying they were going back to their roots and shit, but this IS actually old school Hammerfall.
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
This is pretty awesome. I know they were saying they were going back to their roots and shit, but this IS actually old school Hammerfall.
This is the kind of Power Metal I don't care for anymore.
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New Hammerfall Vid:
Hector's Hymn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGFIrvtiAs
Awesome. Now THIS is classic Hammerfall. I love Joacim Cans' voice. :metal
This is pretty awesome. I know they were saying they were going back to their roots and shit, but this IS actually old school Hammerfall.
This is the kind of Power Metal I don't care for anymore.
I admit I don't go crazy for it like I use to, but I'm still gonna check this out.
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The new Unisonic is incredible!
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The new Unisonic is incredible!
Still bloody waiting for my copy! >:(
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Cheat - it's on grooveshark.
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Has anyone heard of the band, Arion. ARE EE ON. I pronounce Ayreon as AIR EE UN, not sure how it's really pronounced. Anyway, Arion is a Symphonic Power Metal band who are I guess brand new, but their debut album, Last of Us is really good. Here's a song from it:
Seven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHHKj8EafXE
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They look young. The Black Tide of Sym Power Metal!!!
Not bad.
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Has anyone heard of the band, Arion. ARE EE ON. I pronounce Ayreon as AIR EE UN, not sure how it's really pronounced. Anyway, Arion is a Symphonic Power Metal band who are I guess brand new, but their debut album, Last of Us is really good. Here's a song from it:
Seven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHHKj8EafXE
Wouldn't it be pronounced Aaaa-RION (like Orion, but with a soft A) Either way, not bad at all. But sounds a lot like plenty I've heard before - I particularly hear Firewind. Not sure if it's due to YT, but it sounds thin.
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The new Unisonic is incredible!
Still bloody waiting for my copy! >:(
Got my copy. After a couple of listens, this is pretty good. It slows down a bit towards the end, and there's a couple of strange classic Dennis Ward type numbers that need time and listens, but this is pretty solid. Best tracks are; Your Time Has Come, Exceptional, For the Kindgom, Long Knives, Throne of the Dawn, and probable the bonus track, Judgement Day. Find Shelter I think will be a fav too. Lots of solos in this too which is good.
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There are great solos on this album.
Kiske sounds amazing. And the vibrato thing is barely there on this album.
Long Knives is my fave on this. Incredible track.
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I just listened through the new Hammerfall album for the first time, and it's a damn fine one :metal A nice return to form.
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They look young.
Yeah, they're around 18 years old. I remember they took part in the Eurovision preselection and someone called them "Bieber metal" because of the singer's looks. :lol
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There are great solos on this album.
Kiske sounds amazing. And the vibrato thing is barely there on this album.
Long Knives is my fave on this. Incredible track.
Yeah, Kiske is definitely the hero here. I noticed the abscence of vibrato too. He seems to be getting stronger too the more he sings lately.
I just listened through the new Hammerfall album for the first time, and it's a damn fine one :metal A nice return to form.
Good stuff.
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I just listened through the new Hammerfall album for the first time, and it's a damn fine one :metal A nice return to form.
Probably not getting this until my birthday at the end of the month.
Can't wait though.
Also, regarding the Unisonic, this will sound dumb and cliche'd, but quite a few of the tracks feel like they picked up where Keepers Part 2 left off.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPwjXPTZG3o#t=189
New one from Urban Breed. Sounds ok.
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The link said Project Arcadia. Not sure if that was a mistake or not, but it was pretty cool anyway!
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The link said Project Arcadia. Not sure if that was a mistake or not, but it was pretty cool anyway!
Urban Breed is singing on this one - don't think it's his project as such. Samples on the Melodicrock.com title page.
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New Hammerfall is on Spotify. And it's good!
New Astral Doors is there too. Another good release.
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Listening to the new Hammerfall album now. I don't have their full discography but I'm definitely enjoying this one!
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The link said Project Arcadia. Not sure if that was a mistake or not, but it was pretty cool anyway!
Urban Breed is singing on this one - don't think it's his project as such. Samples on the Melodicrock.com title page.
Oh, so Urban Breed is a guy? Sounds like a band name.
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No no no, it's Urban breed. Lower case b. Get it right, noobs.
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No no no, it's Urban breed. Lower case b. Get it right, noobs.
Zook is right. :facepalm:
Yes TAC, it's a guy. He used to sing in Tad Morose and BloodBound. He's vocalist in Trail of Murder whose album you should own. Its a modern classic.
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Tim.........you have detention for not studying my Top 50 properly ;D
I think a couple of us chatted about Project Arcadia a few weeks back in the melrock thread. I'm not entirely sold on it tbh - I love the guy's voice but my initial impression is that it's not a patch on Trail of Murder.
I'm still enjoying Unisonic - it's sounding to me more and more like a heavier Place Vendome with dashes of Helloween the more I listen to it. Which isn't surprising seeing as Ward wrote the whole album , compared to the debut where Hansen had about half the credit. I much prefer Ward as a writer.
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No no no, it's Urban breed. Lower case b. Get it right, noobs.
Zook is right. :facepalm:
Yes TAC, it's a guy. He used to sing in Tad Morose and BloodBound. He's vocalist in Trail of Murder whose album you should own. Its a modern classic.
He's got a great voice. Will check out!
Tim.........you have detention for not studying my Top 50 properly ;D
I think a couple of us chatted about Project Arcadia a few weeks back in the melrock thread. I'm not entirely sold on it tbh - I love the guy's voice but my initial impression is that it's not a patch on Trail of Murder.
I'm still enjoying Unisonic - it's sounding to me more and more like a heavier Place Vendome with dashes of Helloween the more I listen to it. Which isn't surprising seeing as Ward wrote the whole album , compared to the debut where Hansen had about half the credit. I much prefer Ward as a writer.
Guilty! :lol
The new Unisonic is :metal Album Of The Year candidate.
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Tim.........you have detention for not studying my Top 50 properly ;D
I think a couple of us chatted about Project Arcadia a few weeks back in the melrock thread. I'm not entirely sold on it tbh - I love the guy's voice but my initial impression is that it's not a patch on Trail of Murder.
I'm still enjoying Unisonic - it's sounding to me more and more like a heavier Place Vendome with dashes of Helloween the more I listen to it. Which isn't surprising seeing as Ward wrote the whole album , compared to the debut where Hansen had about half the credit. I much prefer Ward as a writer.
I'm happy with that description.
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I posted this in the Stratovarius thread which everyone ignored, so here it is again ;)
Looking what seems to be the modern yardstick for popularity, official band Facebook page;
Blind Guardian - 667,074
Helloween - 1,666,839
Stratovarius - 1,175,862
Edguy - 381,977
Gamma Ray - 246,364
DragonForce - 1,771,057
Avantasia - 534,908
Hammerfall - 793,643
Nightwish - 4,396,729
Sonata Arctica - 1,164,893
So thus the big 4 of power metal are:
1. Nightwish - by a long shot and I very much consider them a PM band.
2. DragonForce
3. Helloween
4. Stratovarius
Which to me at least is surprising, almost shocking :xbones
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I don't consider Nightwish power metal at all.
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I keep spinning the new Unisonic a lot, it's fantastic.
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I don't consider Nightwish power metal at all.
Yeah, this.
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I don't consider Nightwish power metal at all.
Yeah, this.
Agreed. Or Avantasia. They have some Power Metal moments, but by-and-large I wouldn't broadly categorize them as such ala most of the others on that listing.
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I don't consider Nightwish power metal at all.
Yeah, this.
Agreed. Or Avantasia. They have some Power Metal moments, but by-and-large I wouldn't broadly categorize them as such ala most of the others on that listing.
Agree with this too.
Dragonforce would have to be power metal cause you couldn't really classify them as anything else, but to me they are not true traditional power metal.
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Avantasia was pure power metal like twelve years ago on Metal Operas, but it's totally not power metal now. Nightwish is pretty far from power metal too, I agree.
And damn, I'm still waiting for this new Unisonic.
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Avantasia was pure power metal like twelve years ago on Metal Operas, but it's totally not power metal now. Nightwish is pretty far from power metal too, I agree.
And damn, I'm still waiting for this new Unisonic.
For some reason this totally slipped my mind. Of course the first two albums were power metal. Duh me. After that though, no way.
You're in for a treat with the Unisonic. It keeps growing and even the songs I was a bit iffy about have become really strong. I knew they had the potential though.
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Nightwish have always had a core power metal sound.
Have a listen to Oceanborn - Wishmaster - Century Child and even Once.
All those albums basic sound, underneath all the keyboards and symphonic sounds, had the fundamental ingredients that make up the PM sound.
The drums, guitars, bass and tempo's are all basic power metal.
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Keyword in your own post ... "underneath" all those other sounds.
They're more known for their symphonic sounds, and operatic vocals.
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Just received my copy of new Unisonic. It gets the Flimsiest Digipack of the Year award. :lol Anyway, nice thing to get at Friday evening, gonna spin it now.
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Stop the bus, Frankie. Unisonic has a new album out? Sweet, I'll be sure to check it out.
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Stop the bus, Frankie. Unisonic has a new album out? Sweet, I'll be sure to check it out.
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not :D Anyway, it's been out for over a month and it was talked about in this thread for the last three pages, I think.
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Oh I barely visit this thread, and no it wasn't sarcastic at all :lol
I had no clue they were going to release something.
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Me neither and I visit the thread.... :lol
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Stop the bus, Frankie. Unisonic has a new album out? Sweet, I'll be sure to check it out.
Do it, it's awesome.
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Stop the bus, Frankie. Unisonic has a new album out? Sweet, I'll be sure to check it out.
Do it, it's awesome.
Listened to it like four times and man, you're damn right it is. Right now it's tied for my AOTY with IQ's The Road of Bones. I actually loved the first Unisonic and thought they won't top it, but hell I was wrong. Amazing record. :metal
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I just finished my first listen of the Project Arcadia and rate it around 78% at this stage. I find it all a bit unusual to be honest - they have a very distinct way of laying down the rhythm guitars which is rather staccato and off beat that , to me at least , really isn't necessary and doesn't work in favour of the songs which are otherwise standard melodic metal. As per usual Urban breed does a great job on vocals but , as with many of his projects , the music doesn't quite rise to the same heights.
I think it may well grow a bit and the production is great ...........certainly worth a listen. Not sure that it's power metal to be honest , but it's been discussed here before so .........
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I'll probably check that Arcadia disc out. The song you pimped a couple of weeks ago was solid.
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I'll probably check that Arcadia disc out. The song you pimped a couple of weeks ago was solid.
:iagree:
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New Hammerfall is pretty damn good.
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New Hammerfall is pretty damn good.
Their best in a long while.
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New Hammerfall is pretty damn good.
Their best in a long while.
Infected was the best since Crimson Thunder IMO. I've only listened to this new one once, but I think it could overtake it.
I'm not totally sold on the 'back to the roots' thing, but Bushido, Hector's Hymn and Origins definitely have an older Hammerfall vibe, but everything else sounds like what they have been doing lately, but a bit more exciting. Wildfire is stunning and one of the coolest things they've ever done.
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Oh yeah, Wildfire is perhaps my favourite track here.
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It's just so original for the band, really good stuff.
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Johansson is leaving Hammerfall. The guy from PAIN has joined. Bass player is also on parental leave and Stefan Elmgren is filling in the bass duites. Yes, that's the old lead guitarist.
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Just got the Hammerfall yesterday. Afdter one listen, I like it. Feels like it will be a grower.
Hector's Hymn, Bushido, We Won't Back Down, Origins, Wildfire, Demonized. Lots of great potential Hammerfall classics here.
Johansson is leaving Hammerfall.
Really? Wow!
Ironically, while listening yesterday, I felt that the drumming in HF was getting pretty stale. I mean, he's good and steady but I don't feel like the drums really ADD anything.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/hammerfall-parts-ways-with-drummer-anders-johansson/
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You know .... Unisonic is growing on me.
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You know .... Unisonic is growing on me.
It's awesome.
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You know .... Unisonic is growing on me.
It's a great album. And it's not just Kiske. The music is great. Lots of tasty guitar solos in there too. Only two songs I don't like are Not Gonna Take Anymore and Manhunter. Everything else is gold. Night Of The Long Knives might be my Song Of The Year.
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Even though everyone seems to ignore this band every time I bring them up, Lorenguard is holding a kickstarter to fund their next album, and they have a lot of goodies as rewards.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lorenguard/lorenguards-the-days-of-astasia-trilogy
Seriously though, this band is awesome. I'm going to pledge $50 if I can. There's still 20 days to go.
I'd share this on Facebook, but it would be a complete and utter waste of time unfortunately.
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Ok, this has been on my radar for, like, all year... and now there's finally some information. From Red Circuit's FB page:
Today is the day, #HazeOfNemesis is out! We hope all of you who had pre-ordered the album will get it soon!!! Again for our US RED CIRCUIT Fans: Release Date is December 2nd!
Beside the studio album with 10 powerful and intense tracks, you will find a full concert DVD of the 2011 show at the ProgPower USA XII festival. As a bonus, we've put the video of “Oceans Apart” on the DVD, based on live footage shot during our fabulous show in Sri Lanka in February 2014. Big hug and THANK YOU to the Sri Lankan Fans and all, who made this trip happen!
One of the highlights on "Haze Of Nemesis" is the duet of Chitral Chity Somapala with Amanda Somerville on “Worlds Will Collide”.
So here is the tracklist of "Haze Of Nemesis":
Oceans Apart
My Lonely Heaven
Believing A Lie
Digging In The Dirt
Worlds Will Collide (duet with Amanda Somerville)
Spear Of Fate
Serpents Smile
Silent Roaring
Haze Of Nemesis
My Serenade
Soldier Of Fortune (Bonustrack)
In the meanwhile, check out the "Haze Of Nemesis" album trailer:
https://youtu.be/vfbAokHg2ng
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3w0Agy_aT0
First song off the new Red Circuit. The crowd look like they'd prefer some reggae.
And the Somerville song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-D6_l-Gl68
I've ordered this one.
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Never heard of Red Circuit before. That's pretty good stuff.
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Have a go with Homeland - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ikW8DTZoAg
This is the s/t track from their second album, which is it's better than their debut (Trance State). The debut is just ok. I have high hopes for this new one, along with their ProgPower USA DVD.
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Nice. That's pretty solid!
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Can't remember where Serious Black was posted about before, but either way, I'm pretty sure this belongs here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnO-uRsdIgg
If this is any indication of the album, it's going to be a release day pickup.
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Urban Breed :metal
Speaking of Mr Breed , I just heard a little of the new album from his old band Bloodbound. After a quick listen it sounds like a disc that will please fans of Sabaton style epic power metal.
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Uh hello, it's Urban breed. Get it right.
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Uh hello, it's Urban breed. Get it right.
Right you are - mentioned that in my Top 50 and then the capital letter habit got the better of me :-[
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Speaking of Mr Breed , I just heard a little of the new album from his old band Bloodbound. After a quick listen it sounds like a disc that will please fans of Sabaton style epic power metal.
Yep, I wrote a review about this one for Lady Obscure magazine; I actualy was really pleased with their new output. Compelling stuff for sure, epic and diverse enough to stay interesting for the whole album.
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So you guys have probably already heard this, but it was new to me.
Iron Savior: Burning Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjE0r3ccyc
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So you guys have probably already heard this, but it was new to me.
Iron Savior: Burning Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjE0r3ccyc
That came earlier this year, it was pretty decent, but not one of the bands best IMO. It's just another solid output from IS.
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So you guys have probably already heard this, but it was new to me.
Iron Savior: Burning Heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjE0r3ccyc
That came earlier this year, it was pretty decent, but not one of the bands best IMO. It's just another solid output from IS.
Iron Savior is the defininition of solid, but they are also the definition of unspectacular.
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Iron Savior always came across to me as a plain jane power metal band. Decent stuff, but nothing I went out of my way to check out.
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Unification is pretty amazing.
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New Orden Ogan song is epic and killer.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/orden-ogan-f-e-v-e-r-video-premiere/
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Stumbled upon Orden Ogan today while browsing, was just about to post that song. :tup
So I post this Fallout tribute video instead:
ORDEN OGAN - The Things We Believe In (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir_BVxBz5do)
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The new OO album is pretty solid, but I prefer the predecessor, To The End.
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Well definitly check them out some more.
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This one is also a goodie, pretty funny too :yarr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8O1LpzC1Po
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The new OO album is pretty solid, but I prefer the predecessor, To The End.
Yeah- very solid album. No really weak tracks but also only one or two killer tracks IMO. I only have Easton Hope of the earlier albums.......I'd say that has more highs but also more lows.
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The first new song from the upcoming Thunderstone album has dropped. It's not bad but it's pretty average as far as Thunderstone songs go. Still anticipating the shit out of this album though.
I know there's at least four Thunderstone fans here so this won't be completely falling on deaf ears. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAqBwmzWGYw
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I must be number 5 then.
Really good to hear them back, song is decent.
I always thought that they were underrated, but never managed to captured the fire and energy of their live show in the studio.
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Saw the opening for Stratovarius a couple of years ago but I haven't openly followed them. They were pretty good then though.
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New Pyramaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JU_xvG26Xjk
Sounds alright.
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Heard that yesterday. Sounds pretty good.
Enjoying this album:
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New Pyramaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JU_xvG26Xjk
Sounds alright.
Quite solid.
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Recently I have been listening to the debut of the band Noble Beast (2014), I like it very much.
While obvious power metal cheese, I like that the vocals are varied and often in the lower range and there are most certainly some Blind Guardian and even Persuader-esque rawness going on at times. Awesome riffage and solo's as well.
Anyways, some links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaCUP6F2CqM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaCUP6F2CqM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F25gZqT-hKc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F25gZqT-hKc)
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I've yet to hear Serious Black, but is it true Roland Grapow left the band so he could focus on Masterplan?
Speaking of Master plan, is anyone not a fan of their new singer? I'm a huge fan of Masterplan, but that guy ruined their last album. I don't understand why Roland thinks he has to replace Jorn Lande with a half-assed imitation. The new guy is clearly trying to be Jorn but sounds nowhere near as good and doesn't have the range. It is very unfortunate.
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Welcome back Notepad, we missed your input.
Good to have you back mate :biggrin:
As for Masterplan, I have zero interest in them without Jorn.
Grapow I don't know what he is up too.
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I've yet to hear Serious Black, but is it true Roland Grapow left the band so he could focus on Masterplan?
Speaking of Master plan, is anyone not a fan of their new singer? I'm a huge fan of Masterplan, but that guy ruined their last album. I don't understand why Roland thinks he has to replace Jorn Lande with a half-assed imitation. The new guy is clearly trying to be Jorn but sounds nowhere near as good and doesn't have the range. It is very unfortunate.
What?? I don't feel that Rick Altzi was "clearly trying to be Jorn". Not at all. I thought it was an excellent album.
The Serious Black album is also excellent. I was a little hesitant with it at first, but after a few listens, it really clicked. So far, it is probably in my Top 3 of so far.
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I've slowly getting back into some power metal and I really dug this album from last year from Teramaze. Here's one song from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmEueRs4KKw
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I've yet to hear Serious Black, but is it true Roland Grapow left the band so he could focus on Masterplan?
Speaking of Master plan, is anyone not a fan of their new singer? I'm a huge fan of Masterplan, but that guy ruined their last album. I don't understand why Roland thinks he has to replace Jorn Lande with a half-assed imitation. The new guy is clearly trying to be Jorn but sounds nowhere near as good and doesn't have the range. It is very unfortunate.
If you were familiar with Rick, you'd know that he clearly isn't trying to be Jorn. The last Masterplan album was amazing and miles better than the last one with Jorn, which was crap. Looking forward to the next one.
And yes, Roland is not in Serious Black anymore.
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I've slowly getting back into some power metal and I really dug this album from last year from Teramaze. Here's one song from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmEueRs4KKw
Sounds good. I'm pretty sure I sampled it last year. Not sure why I didn't pull the trigger.
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I like the old school melody with a singer that can sing. It's a good album to mow the lawn with.
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The music is really good on the new Pyramaze, but I don't care for the vocalist. It just sounds like he's yelling at me rather than singing.
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The music is really good on the new Pyramaze, but I don't care for the vocalist. It just sounds like he's yelling at me rather than singing.
I should be receiving my copy of this any day. I for one am looking forward to it.
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Yea, I wasn't a huge fan of Jorns last album with Masterplan. One problem was the songs were too similar to one another, they lacked variety. The first two Masterp!an albums are two of my favorite metal albums.
And I dont necessarily think Altzi was trying to be Jorn, but he was definitely trying to fit himself into that role. I don't think he has as much range either. I have to blame Grapow though, I think they should have just gone for a different singer and not try to fill that "husky metal vocalist" role. I understand they have a unique sound and need to replace Jorn, but you can't. They can still sound like Masterplan without as Jorn Lande-lite singer. Look at Helloween, deris sounds very different from Kiske and they're still popular.
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Oh well, each to their own, I think Rick is a great fit for Masterplan and really loved the last album.
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Found some interesting Metal/Power Metal covers. Some work pretty good some not so much whilst others are epic :facepalm:. Fun to listen to though.
Spice Girls - Viva Forever (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7GMIQV8hoA)
Johnny Cash - Ring Of Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8zU8paFops)
Limahl - Neverending Story (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pnxu3_7KPY)
Aha - Take On Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIbpYVNqDMM)
Michael Sembello - Maniac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmhZFV3WbDM)
ABBA - Lay Your Love On Me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhBiCNT85c)
Alphaville - Forever Young (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlLIfF8KUbI)
Roxette - Sleeping In My Car (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQH5yfL4LrE)
Kylie Minogue - On A Night Like This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1i3cBS2kx8)
Toto - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQb9_-wNVG8)
Status Quo - In The Army (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6MgTQ-56P0)
Madonna - Frozen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwE0NUQJ2M)
Mike Oldfield - Moonlight Shadow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbjCU-7hDJw)
Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E103koAYZ2w) :|
Cher - If I Could Turn Back Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfrfsBvupZw)
Roxette - The Look (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0gnO3iG7k)
Gary Moore - Thunder Rising (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpqPbV3sarI)
Look At My Horse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKrQjzq7_Vs)
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The LORD and Firewind ones are absolutely amazing.
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Yea Firewind does a great job on Maniac. For me ReinXeed does some fun covers, I think Viva Forever could easily been a Power Metal tune from the start, ok maybe with slightly diffrent lyrics. :lol The same goes with Dragonforce and Ring Of Fire. DF have the upper edge on the production though.
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That Aha song doesn't translate well into a metal song at all.
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The Firewind blows. I have that album and it completely kills the buzz of an otherwise pretty good album.
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The Firewind blows. I have that album and it completely kills the buzz of an otherwise pretty good album.
I like it, but understand what you mean. It's actually a terrific album and I always thought they should have just stuck it on the end as a bonus track.
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I have yet to hear Serious Black, but I hope Roland's involvement doesn't delay any future Masterplan albums.
Oh well, each to their own, I think Rick is a great fit for Masterplan and really loved the last album.
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Roland is no longer in Serious Black, so I doubt it.
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Roland is no longer in Serious Black, so I doubt it.
What?
That was quick.
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21st of Feb, found this from a facebook post.
Hi Friends, i have some big news here, i am mixing right now the new Masterplan live DVD, also we gonna start in March working on our new studio album, there will be also an extra bonus CD of my written Helloween songs, rerecorded of course with MasterPlan.
and yes!!!!!! I left Serious Black, sorry guys it didn't work out! Good luck guys
; ) My heart beats only for Masterplan!!!!!!!!!!
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Those rerecorded Helloween songs could be an interesting listen.
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Anyone check out the new Cain's Offering album "Stormcrow" ?
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Anyone check out the new Cain's Offering album "Stormcrow" ?
Yeah, but I haven't listened that much to it yet. Some fine songs on it.
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Anyone check out the new Cain's Offering album "Stormcrow" ?
Yeah it was talked about a little, but I think in another thread. Personally, I thought it was pretty generic with only a couple of standout tracks. I quite liked My Heart Beats For No One.
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Easily my fave power metal album of the year and I've pimped Cain's Offering in the Stratvarius thread.
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It is pretty generic power metal but its exactly what you'd expect when you get a cross between older SA and Stratovarius. No song has really jumped out at me so far other than I will build you a rome.
And that explains why I havent seen any threads about it. lol
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Posted on FB today
Francesco Jovino is the new Primal Fear drummer! After 10 years behind the drums for U.D.O., Francesco is back! Primal Fear founding member Tom Naumann joins the band as an official member! After two years touring with Primal Fear, Tom is now back as a full member. Magnus Karlsson will remain a member of the band and will co-write the new album of the band. The recordings of the new Primal Fear album will start in Mid-July @ Hansen Studio in Denmark with producer Mat Sinner & engineer Jacob Hansen. 12 songs are already written, in pre production. The new album will be released worldwide in January 2016 via Frontiers Music srl
To all Primal Fear and Aquiles Priester FANS around the world! We knew it would be a hard mission for us, but we’ve given it a try and unfortunately, to combine our present obligations and our future endeavors, it has become impossible to have a cohesive band together. Due to our schedules and the distance between the continents we have decided to part ways. From both sides we do not have any regrets at all and we are very happy that we have tried our best to make it happen. We are all still good friends and we wish all the best for each other in the future.
Mat, Ralf, Aquiles, Tom and Alex.
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new Primal Fear=great news!
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Looking forward to that. But Aquiles Priester wasn't in the band very long, was he?
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Looking forward to that. But Aquiles Priester wasn't in the band very long, was he?
Not even six months I'd say.
This is teriffic news having Tom back in the band. His guitar playing is awesome. My guessing from this is that Magnus will stay with the band writing and recording the albums with Mat and Ralf only while the touring is left up to the other two. Pretty much the way it's been since Magnus joined anyway.
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21st of Feb, found this from a facebook post.
Hi Friends, i have some big news here, i am mixing right now the new Masterplan live DVD, also we gonna start in March working on our new studio album, there will be also an extra bonus CD of my written Helloween songs, rerecorded of course with MasterPlan.
and yes!!!!!! I left Serious Black, sorry guys it didn't work out! Good luck guys
; ) My heart beats only for Masterplan!!!!!!!!!!
Probably too many big ego's in Serious Black. Whereas Masterplan is his band.
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Finally a new album from Gloryhammer, I really enjoyed their killer debut album of 2013.
Mighty warriors of the Galaxy! Today we can announce that our 2nd album "Space 1992: Rise of the Chaos Wizards" will be unleashed upon the universe on September 25th 2015AD (After Dundee)! The album will feature 10 glorious battle anthems which chronicle the legends of the Galactic Empire of Fife, the titles of which are as follows:
1. Infernus Ad Astra
2. Rise of the Chaos Wizards
3. Legend of the Astral Hammer
4. Goblin King of the Darkstorm Galaxy
5. The Hollywood Hootsman
6. Victorious Eagle Warfare
7. Questlords of Inverness, Ride to the Galactic Fortress!
8. Universe on Fire
9. Heroes (of Dundee)
10. Apocalypse 1992
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I like hearing Roland left Serious Black because I have to assume it's hard for him to get his inf!hence in considering its a "supergroup". I suspect that's why he left; Masterplan is his. Even though I'm not a fan of the new singer.
The rerecorded Helloween songs should be awesome, especially since they will be only Roland written songs. Will be cool to hear versions of Time of The Oath, The Chance, Escalation 666, or The Dark Ride by the current line up. But it would be so much better with Jorn ;)
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My kids introduced me to this awesome Viking/folk metal band
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSkaAwKMD4
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lololololol
It's the Viking version of Steel Panther ... kinda.
But not really.
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My kids introduced me to this awesome Viking/folk metal band
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSkaAwKMD4
lol
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WTF? Literally! :lol
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WTF? Literally! :lol
It's from a UK kids history program, Horrible Histories. It's pretty funny.
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Yes, very funny. Love the Gene Simmons style bass!
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Awesome - like Spinal Tap doing Orden Ogan or something.
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My kids introduced me to this awesome Viking/folk metal band
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qSkaAwKMD4
I literally don't know what to make of this.
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Just do what I did Kade. Watch it once and move on. I did the same thing with Geoff Tate's 6 minute video
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Don't go equating these guys with Tate - they're much better :lol
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Just do what I did Kade. Watch it once and move on. I did the same thing with Geoff Tate's 6 minute video
Oh, it never gets old picking shit at Tater, good stuff.
Don't go equating these guys with Tate - they're much better :lol
Brent could be on to something.
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Speaking of Tate and power metal..............I'm surprised Frontiers haven't had a lightbulb moment and come up with the ultimate project from their roster. Just for you Kade.
Tate/Tolkki :metal
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Speaking of Tate and power metal..............I'm surprised Frontiers haven't had a lightbulb moment and come up with the ultimate project from their roster. Just for you Kade.
Tate/Tolkki :metal
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Speaking of Tate and power metal..............I'm surprised Frontiers haven't had a lightbulb moment and come up with the ultimate project from their roster. Just for you Kade.
Tate/Tolkki :metal
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Speaking of Tate and power metal..............I'm surprised Frontiers haven't had a lightbulb moment and come up with the ultimate project from their roster. Just for you Kade.
Tate/Tolkki :metal
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Haha
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Speaking of Tate and power metal..............I'm surprised Frontiers haven't had a lightbulb moment and come up with the ultimate project from their roster. Just for you Kade.
Tate/Tolkki :metal
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I love this gif.
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Don't go equating these guys with Tate - they're much better :lol
Literally!
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I wouldn't call MasterPlan 'Power' Metal, but this seemed the best thread to post this.
First ever live release by melodic metal kings MASTERPLAN.
Includes (DVD and BluRay) entire concert from Masters Of Rock festival 2014, as well as Wacken 2014, footage from Asia tour, footage from Prog Power USA and all official MASTERPLAN video clips. The Masters Of Rock show is featured on the CD.
Mixed and mastered by Roland Grapow.
Track list
CD:
1. Enlighten Me
2. Spirit Never Die
3. Lost And Gone
4. Crystal Night
5. Betrayal
6. Crimson Rider
7. Back For My Life
8. Time To Be King
9. Keep Your Dream Alive
10. Heroes
11. Soulburn
12. Kind Hearted Light
13. Crawling From Hell
14. Black Night Of Magic
DVD:
Main Part: Masters Of Rock Show
1. Intro (underscore music: „Per Aspera Ad Astram“)
2. Enlighten Me
3. Spirit Never Die
4. Lost And Gone
5. Crystal Night
6. Betrayal
7. Crimson Rider
8. Back For My Life
9. Time To Be King
10. Keep Your Dream Alive
11. Heroes
12. Soulburn
13. Kind Hearted Light
14. Crawling From Hell
Extra 1: Wacken Show
1. Special: Wacken (underscore music: "The Game“)
2. Heroes
3. Keep Your Dream Alive
4. Crystal Night
5. Soulburn
6. Spirit Never Die
Extra Track 2: Asia
1. Special: Asia (underscore music: „Earth is going down“)
2. Soulburn
3. Heroes
Extra Track 3: Atlanta
1. Special: Atlanta (underscore music: „1492“)
2. Black Night Of Magic
Extra Track 4: Official Videos
1. Enlighten Me
2. Back For My Life
3. Lost And Gone
4. Time To Be King
5. Keep Your Dream Alive
Not a bad looking deal for 19 Euros.
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Fuck yeah, first day buyer right here. Really solid setlist too. Any mention of the release date Chad?
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Mid October. The 16th perhaps. Can't recall off the top of my head
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I'm hitting that!
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Mid October. The 16th perhaps. Can't recall off the top of my head
Cool as.
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Think I might be hitting this one too!
Press Release July 31st, 2015
PAGAN`S MIND release new live BluRay/DVD/2CD/2LP!
An early highlight in Pagan's Mind's career was playing the ProgPower USA festival in 2003, the American edition of what many consider to be the best niche festival in the world. Hard on the heels of the release of Celestial Entrance (their sophomore release), the praise they received in Atlanta was unlike anything the band had ever experienced before.
Pagan's Mind played the festival again in 2007 (also appearing as the house band for the legendary «All Star Jam»), and in 2009 returned for the festival's 10 Year Anniversary under the moniker «Returning Heroes».
On September 11th 2014, another historical performance took place at Center Stage, featuring «Celestial Entrance» in its entirety plus an additional set of «True Norwegian Hard-Hitting In-Your-Face Space Metal», including the instrumental piece «Full Circle». It is this piece which comprises the theme of the show you are about to witness.
And now the band will release this concert on October 16th 2015 as a 2CD/DVD digipak version, Blu-ray/2CD version, 2LP Gatefold version and download through Steamhammer /SPV.
Exclusive pre-orders at pagansmind.com will be online soon!
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And it was October 16 ("in the US"). No mention of when (if different) for international.
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Yes bitch. Their last DVD was awesome.
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Masterplan AND Pagan's Mind. October 16th will be a good day. Might have to take the 17th off.
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new Saxon on that day!!!!!!!
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That Aha song doesn't translate well into a metal song at all.
I know I'm quoting this two months later, but this is not true: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlupRATWkm0 :metal
Orden Ogan, Cain's Offering and Kamelot kicked ass this year.
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release date and artwork very soon!
:panicattack:
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release date and artwork very soon!
:panicattack:
looking forward to that one!
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release date and artwork very soon!
:panicattack:
Fuck yeah, been waiting, can't wait.
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Oh sweet, I might have to pick up that Pagan's Mind blu ray. I am a sucker for blu ray concerts and I really do enjoy the Heavenly Ecstasy album.
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Ahhh, Heavenly Ecstacy. I liked the fuck out of it back in the day: https://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=9973
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Ahhh, Heavenly Ecstacy. I liked the fuck out of it back in the day: https://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=9973
Nice! I really don't know the band besides this one album, a friend recommended it like a year ago and it really clicked for me. I love how you mention the one song that I am obsessed with "Live your life like a dream" That song is magical to my ears.
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Yeah, the whole thing is just great.
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Ahhh, Heavenly Ecstacy. I liked the fuck out of it back in the day: https://www.metalstorm.net/pub/review.php?review_id=9973
This album was such a grower. At first I really didn't rate it at all, but then it opened up into an amazing slab of power prog.
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Yea it's a wonderful album.
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That album came out in 2011. Should be due for a new album soon. Hopefully this live release is to get people thinking about them again before a new release hopefully.
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Bought that new Cain's Offering the other day. Not an original note in the entire thing, but still very enjoyable.
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Bought that new Cain's Offering the other day. Not an original note in the entire thing, but still very enjoyable.
No shit :lol I call it Eurotrash metal.
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Bought that new Cain's Offering the other day. Not an original note in the entire thing, but still very enjoyable.
Yeah, it is still definitely a good album.
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It does not get much cheesier than Gloryhammer, but I love it
https://youtu.be/gXzMD065HEk
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That's actually some pretty fresh sounding power metal. Not bad.
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Yeah I love their style, debut album was killer and eagerly awaiting the follow up at the end of the month.
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I have their debut but have never got around to listening to it.........often happens - I do the research , get it and move on to look for the next gem . Or maybe I just thought they looked like fucking idiots :lol
They might just convert Blob to power metal - looks like a Transformer on lead vox.
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540361647_photo.jpg?2043)
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Give it a listen, it's one of the better power metal releases from the last few years.
Despite the less than serious image and sometimes very mythical lyrics, it all comes together in the music.
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Genres are so weird nowadays. So many bands get categorized in ways they shouldnt be. So many bands can be categorized in a ton of different genres but get pigeonholed. Hammerfall has certainly done stuff that is classic power metal, but a LOT of their stuff is very much traditional metal in the style of Maiden. Iced Earth I do not think is power metal but always get put in that category. Same with Nevermore (RIP). Helloween does power metal and are known as the originators of it, but if you look through their discography there is a lot different style: traditional metal, progressive, Nu-metal, glam, and so on.
A lot of these bands have songs that could be radio hits but won't because of this. Done ranting.
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I have their debut but have never got around to listening to it.........often happens - I do the research , get it and move on to look for the next gem . Or maybe I just thought they looked like fucking idiots :lol
They might just convert Blob to power metal - looks like a Transformer on lead vox.
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540361647_photo.jpg?2043)
You know, the guys in Lorenguard dress up in medieval garb, but this is just too far for me.
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Give it a listen, it's one of the better power metal releases from the last few years.
Despite the less than serious image and sometimes very mythical lyrics, it all comes together in the music.
I can't take it - it's all I dislike in power metal rolled into one.
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From Primal Fear FB feed:
PrimalFear Rulebreaker
The new Primal Fear album "Rulebreaker" will be released by Frontiers Records on January 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn6idObTGVk
Not much of a trailer, but I is excite.
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They love coming up with dodgy album titles.
I don't know how I'm going to go into this one. Delivering the Black is by far their finest hour and probably would make my top 50. It's simply one of the best heavy metal albums ever IMO. Don't know how they can live up to that one. So looking forward to it though.
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Delivering the Black is by far their finest hour and probably would make my top 50. It's simply one of the best heavy metal albums ever IMO.
WOW!
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Delivering the Black is by far their finest hour and probably would make my top 50. It's simply one of the best heavy metal albums ever IMO.
WOW!
It's pretty much the perfect definition of heavy metal. Jason will back me up too, he thinks very highly of it.
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Well that's high praise indeed. I'll try and get another listen to it this week. Maybe tomorrow.
I want to squeeze in some classic Maiden too.
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I want to get in anything else besides the TBOS. :lol
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I don't think quite as highly of it - it was my first PF album after I became a fan, so it's got that going for it. One of the better albums of 2014.
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It's still not as good as Painkiller though Chad. ;D
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It's still not as good as Painkiller though Chad. ;D
Prove it!
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It's still not as good as Painkiller though Chad. ;D
Prove it!
Oh....I will.
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I back up Wolf 100%
Delivering the Black is heavy metal to the max- 5 stars
Primal Fear never disappoints!
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I back up Wolf 100%
Delivering the Black is heavy metal to the max- 5 stars
Primal Fear never disappoints!
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:lol
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:lol
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I have their debut but have never got around to listening to it.........often happens - I do the research , get it and move on to look for the next gem . Or maybe I just thought they looked like fucking idiots :lol
They might just convert Blob to power metal - looks like a Transformer on lead vox.
(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/5/4/0/3540361647_photo.jpg?2043)
Haha, wow, do they perform in that?
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Now THIS looks interesting:
Napalm Records is proud to announce the signing of Phantasma, the new Symphonic Rock musical of Charlotte Wessels (Delain), Georg Neuhauser (Serenity) and Oliver Philipps (Everon).
PHANTASMA was born from the longstanding ambition to create a story driven concept record of Georg Neuhauser, vocal force behind Tyrolean Symphonic Metal outfit Serenity. He found his partner in crime with multi-instrumentalist composer, producer and vocalist Oliver Philipps (Everon) who gladly embarked on this new mission that allowed him to reconnect with being a musician in the first place, as a welcome change from working for other bands, which he has done extensively over the years, providing the rich sound connoisseurs of the genre have come to expect from him. As Oliver worked with DELAIN since their debuting record, a request at Charlotte Wessels’ address was made to complete the dynamic trio of PHANTASMA. To introduce Charlotte Wessels to any connoisseur of Symphonic metal would be like carrying coals to Newcastle - she is, after all, since 2005 the vocal figurehead of Dutch grandees DELAIN. It is therefore not only surprising, but also gratifying that Charlotte now even found some leisure time, to lend not only her voice to PHANTASMA but also her debut novella “The Deviant Hearts” - which was written especially for the project.
Thomas Caser, Napalm Records Vice President comments:
„We are thrilled to announce the signing of PHANTASMA which is one of the most exciting projects of the genre. Charlotte, Georg and Oliver have created a magical album and a fantastic concept and story to come with it. This is a must-have for all fans of this music!”
PHANTASMA states:
"We have truly enjoyed giving a shape, face and sound to "The Deviant Hearts". It was an inspiring and exciting process and we can not wait to share the result of our efforts with you through the upcoming release with Napalm Records."
“The Deviant Hearts” track-listing:
01. Incomplete
02. The Deviant Hearts (Give us a Story)
03. Runaway Grey
04. Try
05. Enter Dreamscape
06. Miserable Me
07. The Lotus And The Willow
08. Crimson Course
09. Carry Me Home
10. The Sound Of Fear
11. Novaturient
12. Let It Die
13. Symphony of Light (Bonus Track)
“The Deviant Hearts” will hit the stores on November 20th and will be available in the formats listed below:
- Ltd Edition Earbook, Bonus Track, 48 Page Booklet including Novel “The Deviant Hearts” + 2 Bonus CD’s incl. “The Deviant Hearts” AUDIOBOOK read by Charlotte Wessels.
- Ltd Edition 6 Page Digipack & Bonus Track - 100 Page Booklet including Novel “The Deviant Hearts” & Digipack Sleeve.
-Regular Jewel Case Edition.
-Digital Download.
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I like Charlotte so I'll check that out
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Since there's no Gamma Ray thread (travesty!), I guess this goes here:
Anybody ever notice how the bridge of Real World sounds EXACTLY like Priest's The Sentinel? There's even some lyrics that are pretty close, and it's super close in terms of music as well.
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Gamma Ray are pretty open with their influences. They have many songs with basically rip offs of older songs, mainly Priest. That is indeed one of them. Others off the top of my head;
Opportunity (middle section) - The Clairvoyant (Iron Maiden)
Solid (verses) - Rapid Fire (Judas Priest)
Heading For Tomorrow (main riff)- Victim of Changes (Judas Priest)
Hand of Fate (verses) - Dissident Aggressor (Judas Priest)
To the Metal (main riff) - Metal Gods (Judas Priest)
Time To Live (chours) - I Want Out (Helloween)
My Temple (breakdown around 3:00)- Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (Black Sabbath)
Time For Deliverance (chours) - We Are the Champions (Queen)
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Huh. Never really noticed many of this, I'll have to have a listen and specifically listen for those songs and how they influence the music.
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Huh. Never really noticed many of this, I'll have to have a listen and specifically listen for those songs and how they influence the music.
I've added where the rip off are. They are all pretty blatant.
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Pagan's Mind Full Circle trailer is available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcHBlbqVClw
Performing the classic Celestial Entrance album in it's entirety plus another 80 minutes of true Norwegian hard-hitting in-your-face space metal ... with special guest Michael Ericksen
:hefdaddy
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Pagan's Mind Full Circle trailer is available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcHBlbqVClw
Performing the classic Celestial Entrance album in it's entirety plus another 80 minutes of true Norwegian hard-hitting in-your-face space metal ... with special guest Michael Ericksen
:hefdaddy
I'll be getting this.
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Pagan's Mind Full Circle trailer is available:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcHBlbqVClw
Performing the classic Celestial Entrance album in it's entirety plus another 80 minutes of true Norwegian hard-hitting in-your-face space metal ... with special guest Michael Ericksen
:hefdaddy
I'll be getting this.
Me too. I've never listened to Celestial Entrance though.
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Yep that's a must have!
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You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
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You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Hmm.. I haven't caught the Pagan's Mind bug yet. I bought Heavenly Ecstasy and listened to it once.
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You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Since its included entirely on the concert I may just wait until I get the blu-ray and therefore I can listen/watch it first before getting the album on its own.
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You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Hmm.. I haven't caught the Pagan's Mind bug yet. I bought Heavenly Ecstasy and listened to it once.
That one was a real grower, try Celestial Entrance or Enigmatic: Calling. Enigmatic: Calling would actually be a much safer option I think.
You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Since its included entirely on the concert I may just wait until I get the blu-ray and therefore I can listen/watch it first before getting the album on its own.
Makes sense.
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You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Hmm.. I haven't caught the Pagan's Mind bug yet. I bought Heavenly Ecstasy and listened to it once.
That one was a real grower, try Celestial Entrance or Enigmatic: Calling. Enigmatic: Calling would actually be a much safer option I think.
You need to check Celestial Entrance man, amazing album.
Since its included entirely on the concert I may just wait until I get the blu-ray and therefore I can listen/watch it first before getting the album on its own.
Makes sense.
Heavenly Ecstasy is the album I have and I love it!
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very very soon...
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Fuck this is going to be an expensive next few months vis-a-vis music (audio and video).
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I eventually came to the conclusion that Chronicles 1 is VP's best album, so this is gonna be damn good.
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I eventually came to the conclusion that Chronicles 1 is VP's best album, so this is gonna be damn good.
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Hell yeah buddy. My list for the next few months is looking quite healthy too.
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Not to mention bloody expensive.
With the AU dollar so low and I found out last week that CD (distributor/wholesale) prices have gone up too.
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Not to mention bloody expensive.
With the AU dollar so low and I found out last week that CD (distributor/wholesale) prices have gone up too.
You mainly go cdjapan hey? No way I'll be splurging on imports anymore.
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No I meant local prices here in AU.
The guy I know at Utopia was telling me why those 2CD sets with 'bonus' discs are around the $40.
The low dollar and increase in wholesale price to them, to which they pass on to the customer.
With that the CD Japan prices are pretty reasonable, knowing that they in most cases limited pressings and the exclusive bonus tracks.
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No I meant local prices here in AU.
The guy I know at Utopia was telling me why those 2CD sets with 'bonus' discs are around the $40.
The low dollar and increase in wholesale price to them, to which they pass on to the customer.
With that the CD Japan prices are pretty reasonable, knowing that they in most cases limited pressings and the exclusive bonus tracks.
That blows. I noticed some of their prices seemed a bit high online for 2CD's and CD/DVD's on some artists, explains why.
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Did prices crash when the AUD was at 1.00-$1.10 $USD? (around 50% higher than now)
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Was looking at the Pagan's Mind Blu-Ray to purchase
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-Blu-ray-Pagans-Mind/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443011019&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind (https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-Blu-ray-Pagans-Mind/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443011019&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind)
This is saying its a region B/2 Blu-ray and won't play in North America. I didn't realize there were region codes for blu-rays... can anyone confirm this? That will be a real downer if this won't be able to play on my blu-ray players (I have a couple stand alone players and then also my xbox one and my PC has a blu-ray drive).
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There most definitely are region codes for BR discs.
Even though my Samsung player is a multizone, it will play all region DVD and most BR it does not play USA (region A) BR discs.
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Was looking at the Pagan's Mind Blu-Ray to purchase
https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-Blu-ray-Pagans-Mind/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443011019&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind (https://www.amazon.com/Full-Circle-Blu-ray-Pagans-Mind/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1443011019&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind)
This is saying its a region B/2 Blu-ray and won't play in North America. I didn't realize there were region codes for blu-rays... can anyone confirm this? That will be a real downer if this won't be able to play on my blu-ray players (I have a couple stand alone players and then also my xbox one and my PC has a blu-ray drive).
I wouldn't read too much into that region code yet. This is a fairly new listing on Amazon I'm assuming since the blu ray isn't going to be released until mid-October. Amazon is notorious for having incorrect product info on videos like this.
They had the same region listed on the US version of Breaking the Fourth Wall even after it had been out for several months.
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Cool, thanks for sharing. I've bought Blu-Rays from Europe before and have not had issues (Epica and Avantasia), but I think those were region free so this is my first experience with seeing that. I hope you are right and amazon will fix it or there will be an option for region A.
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And the Vanden Plas video is out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usyk875uMBM
Sounds real good... picking right off where Netherworld Part 1 left off. I haz a smile in my pants.
Brent... don't listen - I want to use this for next round. :lol :lol
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That sounded great! Gotta admit though that Chronicles didn't really do for me what it did for you.
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That sounded great! Gotta admit though that Chronicles didn't really do for me what it did for you.
Too bad. It can do it to me as many times as it likes.
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And the Vanden Plas video is out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usyk875uMBM
Sounds real good... picking right off where Netherworld Part 1 left off. I haz a smile in my pants.
Brent... don't listen - I want to use this for next round. :lol :lol
Sounding magnificent as ever, looking forward to this one.
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Brent doesn't know Vanden Plas? About to check the vid now.
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That sounded great! Gotta admit though that Chronicles didn't really do for me what it did for you.
I didn't know what Chad saw in it either at first, but I kept going back to it and it paid off. It's a huge grower and their best album IMO. Gonna listen to it again tonight I think.
That new song is perfect, great continuation, love it. Great solos too.
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Brent doesn't know Vanden Plas? About to check the vid now.
Pretty certain he does. It was an attempt to give him a little shit and poke some fun about accepting songs from albums he "doesn't know" from bands he does know.
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Brent doesn't know Vanden Plas? About to check the vid now.
Pretty certain he does. It was an attempt to give him a little shit and poke some fun about accepting songs from albums he "doesn't know" from bands he does know.
I thought that might have been the case after I posted. :lol
Seriously, that song is a beauty. Can't wait for this. Chronicles 1 definitely getting a spin from me tonight.
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Think I'll do the same in the morning.
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I bought my first Vanden Plas album 20 years ago, long before any of you stirrers knew what was up ;D That debut also made my DTF top 50.
And anyway Chad - I'm a bit pissed off that you travelled all the way out to Australia to compete on The Bachelorette and didn't drop in to say "Hi". This just popped up on the missus' iPad :neverusethis: I hear Chad tried to impress her with the traditional DTF "bird" and was eliminated.
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Yeah I love the first album, even better with the two Japan bonus tracks.
Probably still my fave release from them.
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I bought my first Vanden Plas album 20 years ago, long before any of you stirrers knew what was up ;D That debut also made my DTF top 50.
And anyway Chad - I'm a bit pissed off that you travelled all the way out to Australia to compete on The Bachelorette and didn't drop in to say "Hi". This just popped up on the missus' iPad :neverusethis: I hear Chad tried to impress her with the traditional DTF "bird" and was eliminated.
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d7d0308788e1cfba7e5a0bb780446ed7)
This show is fucking trash. I actually watched a bit of this tonight, good lord, these making are making themselves look like nutless gits! She isn't even that hot IMO.
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And I'm far more handsome - and a better dresser - than that bloke. Facial hair blows... chaffe's the thighs. Bald with a beard is not a good look... what is he, a pr0n star?
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Facial hair blows...
At first I was like;
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chaffe's the thighs.
then I was;
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I just listened to that new VP song again, and it's fucking incredible.
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Spirit Never Die live clip from new Masterplan DVD;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZRKm4WQfUM
This is fucking unreal, wow! Some obvious overdubs, but who cares.
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Spirit Never Die live clip from new Masterplan DVD;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZRKm4WQfUM
This is fucking unreal, wow! Some obvious overdubs, but who cares.
Pretty cool! they are playing here on the 16th. I was not going, bu now...maybe i will.
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Band sounds great
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Band sounds great
Wow, they sure as hell do! :metal
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Anyone else feel that the new Helloween album doesn't have enough of the classic guitar harmonies they're known for? Its a good album, but it lacks this I bet because its mainly a Debris written album. That disappoints me.
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Band sounds great
Wow, they sure as hell do! :metal
As I said, there is a few obvious overdubs, but I'm really impressed with this too.
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Anyone else feel that the new Helloween album doesn't have enough of the classic guitar harmonies they're known for? Its a good album, but it lacks this I bet because its mainly a Debris written album. That disappoints me.
Yep - Debris writes rubbish.
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I don't know who this Debris fella is?
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I don't know who this Debris fella is?
He's a waste.
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I don't know who this Debris fella is?
He's a waste.
Rubbish of a statement.
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I don't know who this Debris fella is?
He's a waste.
Rubbish of a statement.
What's with the trash talk?
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I don't know who this Debris fella is?
He's a waste.
Rubbish of a statement.
What's with the trash talk?
It's total garbage if you ask me.
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Hey, can it you guys
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This page is junk.
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My fuckin Nexus automatically turns Deris into Debris withou me noticing. Its too small a change to notice.
But this is the power metal forum. Let's talk about power metal.
Anyone heard about the new Masterplan live DVD? I cant say I'd buy it, that new singer is lousy. Its a shame because they're such a great band, them latest album is great, but the vocals really bring it down. He's a poor-mans Jorn Lande. I wish Roland Grapow would realize there's only one Jorn Lande and hadn't replaced him with a very poor imitation. I wish instead of this new lousy Jorn imitator they had gone for a singer with a different vocal style.
Anyone here actually like the new singer?
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Rick Altzi? Yeah, I like him. He's no Jorn, but he's a good vocalist.
And hey man, you asked almost the same question back then in your post from this very thread...
Speaking of Master plan, is anyone not a fan of their new singer? I'm a huge fan of Masterplan, but that guy ruined their last album. I don't understand why Roland thinks he has to replace Jorn Lande with a half-assed imitation. The new guy is clearly trying to be Jorn but sounds nowhere near as good and doesn't have the range. It is very unfortunate.
Also, I can't help but give a :clap: for all the trash talk on this page.
Edit: and speaking about power metal - I think the opener from new Vanden Plas (Vision 11even - In My Universe) is going to blow you guys all away.
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Anyone here actually like the new singer?
Yes.
Edit: and speaking about power metal - I think the opener from new Vanden Plas (Vision 11even - In My Universe) is going to blow you guys all away.
Why are you teasing us!?
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Love Altzi. Gonna take a slight adjustment to hear him singing Jorn Songs, but I'll adapt.
Ruslan... The offer still stands for my roulette. ;)
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Rick Altzi? Yeah, I like him. He's no Jorn, but he's a good vocalist.
And hey man, you asked almost the same question back then in your post from this very thread...
Speaking of Master plan, is anyone not a fan of their new singer? I'm a huge fan of Masterplan, but that guy ruined their last album. I don't understand why Roland thinks he has to replace Jorn Lande with a half-assed imitation. The new guy is clearly trying to be Jorn but sounds nowhere near as good and doesn't have the range. It is very unfortunate.
Also, I can't help but give a :clap: for all the trash talk on this page.
Edit: and speaking about power metal - I think the opener from new Vanden Plas (Vision 11even - In My Universe) is going to blow you guys all away.
Don't speak of such things.
Would you guys consider newer Accept as being power metal? Blind Rage is an amazing album. I'm not the most well-versed in the works of Accept, but based on all I've heard, the newer Accept with Mark Tornillo sounds very different from older Accept. I bring this up because a lot of people say, including the band themselves, say the new stuff like Blind Rage is classic Accept. But to me it'sounds nothing like their old stuff. It actually sounds better, I love it (although Metal Heart is up there because of its glam style).
But would you say new Accept is almost power metal? It's at least very close to being so. Just like, IMO, Priest's Redeemer of Souls albums sounds very power metal inspired. (And I don't mean lyrically, because not all power metal is about fantasy!)
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Would you guys consider newer Accept as being power metal? Blind Rage is an amazing album. I'm not the most well-versed in the works of Accept, but based on all I've heard, the newer Accept with Mark Tornillo sounds very different from older Accept. I bring this up because a lot of people say, including the band themselves, say the new stuff like Blind Rage is classic Accept. But to me it'sounds nothing like their old stuff. It actually sounds better, I love it (although Metal Heart is up there because of its glam style).
But would you say new Accept is almost power metal? It's at least very close to being so. Just like, IMO, Priest's Redeemer of Souls albums sounds very power metal inspired. (And I don't mean lyrically, because not all power metal is about fantasy!)
Notepad, what is with you and your EPMCS (Endless Power Metal Classification Syndrome)?
But I'm always happy to talk Accept!!
Modern era Accept definitely has its roots in the Classic Era. Honestly I don't find that much difference. It is similar if you compare Saxon's Sacrifice with Denim And Leather. If there is a difference, it's that the technology and production has made it more..um :facepalm: I can't believe I'm gonna say it...powerful. ;D
I will say that the blueprint to the European Power Metal movement is Accept's Fast As A Shark, but Accept is more of a Classic Heavy Metal band.
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New Accept rules!!
And I can't say I've personally ever classified anything as Power Metal. To me, its just metal, hard rock or rock.
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New Accept rules!!
This. I couldn't give a shit what they get called.
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It's more that I'm interested in genre classification and why certain bands get lumped into one genre or subgenre and not another. It's just that my favorite bands happen to be power metal. It makes me curious why some of them ARE classed as PM with so many differences compared to other popular bands in the genre.
As for Accept....idk, new Accept sounds quite different to classic Accept beyond the differences in modern and old production techniques.
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Maybe TAC can explain some power metal classification
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Maybe TAC can explain some power metal classification
No F'n way! :lol
As for Accept....idk, new Accept sounds quite different to classic Accept beyond the differences in modern and old production techniques.
Well it's a huge factor for me.
But musically speaking, let me say this.
New Accept feels heavier. Soundwise this can be chocked up to recording, but songwise, the songs just feel fatter and heavier.
Old Accept was a lot more diverse. You had songs like Fast As A Shark, Breaker, and TV War that were definite precursors to Power Metal. But they could play a classic NWOBHM style, a basic style a la AC/DC/Krokus, and some experimental stuff like Teach Us To Servive.
If anything, Old Accept were a bit more multidimensional, but both eras have that great Wolf Hoffman guitar tone and the Peter Baltes hard backing vocals.
Notepad, how would you sum up the differences? How familiar are you with Old Accept?
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New Accept rules!!
This. I couldn't give a shit what they get called.
I call them AWESOME! That ok? ;D
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New Accept rules!!
This. I couldn't give a shit what they get called.
I call them AWESOME! That ok? ;D
Yes, cause I call them that also.
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Maybe TAC can explain some power metal classification
No F'n way! :lol
As for Accept....idk, new Accept sounds quite different to classic Accept beyond the differences in modern and old production techniques.
Well it's a huge factor for me.
But musically speaking, let me say this.
New Accept feels heavier. Soundwise this can be chocked up to recording, but songwise, the songs just feel fatter and heavier.
Old Accept was a lot more diverse. You had songs like Fast As A Shark, Breaker, and TV War that were definite precursors to Power Metal. But they could play a classic NWOBHM style, a basic style a la AC/DC/Krokus, and some experimental stuff like Teach Us To Servive.
If anything, Old Accept were a bit more multidimensional, but both eras have that great Wolf Hoffman guitar tone and the Peter Baltes hard backing vocals.
Notepad, how would you sum up the differences? How familiar are you with Old Accept?
I'm not super familiar with old Accept, but I have heard quite a bit. I especially like Metal Heart because I love the 80s hard rock feel to a lot of the songs.
I do realize that they were a bit more diverse back then. I was reading different reviews of their old stuff where someone said some of their stuff was more hard rock. And that's where the difference is because, as you said, they are more consistently heavy metal these days. There's no hard rock on the last 3 albums, its pure metal.
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Not just pure metal, but powerful pure metal
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Come up in my youtube subscriptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SelMOgDxd2E
Not bad.
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Not just pure metal, but powerful pure metal
:lol
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Not just pure metal, but powerful pure metal
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BihhxoYNcnAY0/giphy.gif)
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Not just pure metal, but powerful pure metal
(https://media.giphy.com/media/BihhxoYNcnAY0/giphy.gif)
:metal
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Come up in my youtube subscriptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SelMOgDxd2E
Not bad.
Damn... that is pretty sweet. I've got one Manimal song in my library - I think Kirksnosehair gave them to me in my last roulette.
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What does everyone think of the latest Unisonic album? Or has that already been addressed? Either way, what are the opinions on it?
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The latest as in last year's?
I thought it was awesome. In my Top 5 of this decade.
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Come up in my youtube subscriptions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SelMOgDxd2E
Not bad.
Damn... that is pretty sweet. I've got one Manimal song in my library - I think Kirksnosehair gave them to me in my last roulette.
Never heard them before, but will probably check this out, and their first album also.
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I have their first album...........solid , but nothing brilliant. This new track sounds like a step up.
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I'll check it out.
Random comment here, but I really fucking wish Nocturnal Rites did another album. They haven't even disclosed if they are somewhat active or any sort of status of the band. Once Nils left that was it. They did announce a replacement but nothing, so sad.
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I'll check it out.
Random comment here, but I really fucking wish Nocturnal Rites did another album. They haven't even disclosed if they are somewhat active or any sort of status of the band. Once Nils left that was it. They did announce a replacement but nothing, so sad.
I really liked Afterlife back in the day, but haven´t heard any album after that, i think.
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After that one, they were all brilliant IMO.
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Cool, i´ll check them out!
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I've only heard Afterlife from NR, I thought it was solid
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Great band. They were working on a new album but that was an age ago.
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Great band. They were working on a new album but that was an age ago.
I checked their website and the website hasn't been updated since 2011 and the facebook 2013. :tdwn
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soo I really really like Nocturnal Rites, I would highly recommend their albums after Afterlife as well.
My friend and I got drunk and emailed them, here is our email.. and response
My email
Dearest Fredrik,
It's been exactly one year since I trusted a stranger, and it seem that fools really never do die. My desire for a new album is truly never ending and not seeing your website updated since 2012 cuts like a knife. On a serious note, I hope all is well in life and with the band. Please let me know when I can expect to hear you're newest works because I am holding on to the flame, and I hope that the flame will never die.
All the Best,
Marc
and response
Hey Marc
Thanx for writing. We are working on a new album, I don´t know when it will be out, but now you know that we are STILL ALIVE:)
However, that was over a year ago and I did follow up about 6 months ago with another lyric filled email, but that time did not get a response. :(
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Really well done with that email, lots of song titles there, and the response renders some hope. We can do just that, hope that it happens one day. I love 'em too bro, a new album would just be ridiculous.
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Well he didnt respond to my follow up, so I lost hope for ever hearing any new music from them.... as a song by them comes on my random playlist :metal
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So Gamma Ray have hired some nobody to be the new lead singer.
https://youtu.be/cM_4nn__fE0
He sings okay, but I don't know, it just feels weird.
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I think Kai just had some trouble with his voice on certain shows this tour. This video is from 23rd April 2014. They've played in Moscow two days later, at 25th April. I attended that show and Kai sang all the songs - and he sounded pretty good - so I don't think he's a permanent replacement or anything.
Edit: here's the setlist (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/gamma-ray/2014/tavastia-helsinki-finland-6bc3ca96.html) from that Helsinki show. Apparently there were just a few guest musicians. Fabio Lione sang on some songs too.
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/gamma-ray-hires-frank-beck-as-its-new-lead-singer/
"From now, on the vocals there will be Mr. Kai Hansen as usual plus and welcome please Mr. Frank Beck with whom the band has done already a good amount of shows in the past.
"We found out that Frank is not only a great singer that very much fits into the band from his voice and from his temper of the voice and his kind of singing but as well as a very very good human being that is fit to live up to the extreme expectations that we as a band have for people joining. Mainly this guy cannot only sing, he can party, too and that's very important. So that was reason one.
"Another good reason was that Kai just felt that it's time for him to cut a bit shorter on singing, because he found out that his long touring, especially headline shows after a while, always tends to fuck up the voice and end up with something that is not a hundred percent. So sharing the vocals makes things much easier and much more pleasurable.
"It will not only give the band a new dimension soundwise or vocalwise but it will as well — and here is reason number three — give Kai the freedom to move around on stage a lot and plus create a bit more action on the live performances and be more free to play the guitar which actually he does like a lot.
"So, ladies and gentleman, please welcome the new GAMMA RAY and please welcome Mr. Frank Beck."
Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/gamma-ray-hires-frank-beck-as-its-new-lead-singer/#FAM5O868WUbQHAsc.99
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Well, damn then. :-\
Though I do think it's good thing for Kai.
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As long as they can make it work for the good of the band, it is good for Kai. Their live show can only improve really. Interesting to hear what the studio stuff will sound like.
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Should've hired Kiske!!! :metal
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Should've hired Kiske!!! :metal
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Just found this from 2013.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mkRCVV36rs
All I can do is :hefdaddy
What's the deal with that jacket and hooded sweatshirt? :lol
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Should've hired Kiske!!! :metal
Yes, they should have.
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So does this mean the new guy will be an official member, singing on future albums? That will be odd. Will be interesting to see if they both sing on the next album. I don't like this news. Its weird. To me, Kai is the only frontman of Gamma Ray.
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So does this mean the new guy will be an official member, singing on future albums? That will be odd. Will be interesting to see if they both sing on the next album. I don't like this news. Its weird. To me, Kai is the only frontman of Gamma Ray.
Did you read the article bro?
Come to think of it, this could be good. Kai can focus back on his solos. They have been slack for quite some time now.
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Fuck yeah, Ralf performing One With the World with Gamma Ray;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kX7lf2-UhL8
Watching this vid, I love Primal Fear, but this feels so right too.
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grr- Black Majesty are launching their new album in Melbourne tomorrow night and I can't go out >:(
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Fuck yeah, Ralf performing One With the World with Gamma Ray;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kX7lf2-UhL8
Watching this vid, I love Primal Fear, but this feels so right too.
Yeah , that was pretty cool!
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grr- Black Majesty are launching their new album in Melbourne tomorrow night and I can't go out >:(
I'm still yet to order this one. What I've heard sounds solid as normal, perhaps even a step up from the last too.
I'd be so there bro.
Fuck yeah, Ralf performing One With the World with Gamma Ray;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kX7lf2-UhL8
Watching this vid, I love Primal Fear, but this feels so right too.
Yeah , that was pretty cool!
Indeed.
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Listening to this new Stratovarius again, I think it's fantastic. Jani writing a few songs seems weird and there's at least two that are direct copies of Cain's Offering stuff, but overall it's really good. The epic is a grower, but I like this better than Nemesis. There's less filler and it's less bloated. I don't think there's any filler on it really. I could do without the ballad, but it's alright.
The melodies and some of the structures here are really mature and wonderful to listen to.
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Maybe Kai will let Beck do most of the vocals on their next album. This way Kai can focus more of the songwriting and coming up with totally original stuff instead of ripping off Maiden, Priest etc. I like Gamma Ray, but come on now, the "Homages" are getting ridiculous. I swear Steve Harris wrote an entire song on one of their latest records.
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Listening to this new Stratovarius again, I think it's fantastic. Jani writing a few songs seems weird and there's at least two that are direct copies of Cain's Offering stuff, but overall it's really good. The epic is a grower, but I like this better than Nemesis. There's less filler and it's less bloated. I don't think there's any filler on it really. I could do without the ballad, but it's alright.
The melodies and some of the structures here are really mature and wonderful to listen to.
I'm spinning it right now, and it is really, REALLY good.
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Listening to this new Stratovarius again, I think it's fantastic. Jani writing a few songs seems weird and there's at least two that are direct copies of Cain's Offering stuff, but overall it's really good. The epic is a grower, but I like this better than Nemesis. There's less filler and it's less bloated. I don't think there's any filler on it really. I could do without the ballad, but it's alright.
The melodies and some of the structures here are really mature and wonderful to listen to.
I'm spinning it right now, and it is really, REALLY good.
I'm surprised how mature and classy this album is, it's awesome.
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I'll give it another go but I thought it sounded like a pretty uninspired album .......like they were on cruise control after Nemesis. I love Strato when they're firing , so will give it another chance.
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This is much better than Nemesis IMO. Although, I wasn't a huge fan of it.
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Listening to it now. Haven't bothered with Strats basically ever. 5 songs in. It's not bad. I like music like this but it's pretty generic. It's hard to tell if it's inspired or not. Lots of catchy hooks though, I'll give it that. I do feel like I'll like it more on subsequent listens. And I'm not saying I don't like it.
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I'll give it another go but I thought it sounded like a pretty uninspired album .......like they were on cruise control after Nemesis.
Same here. Extremely disappointing album after Nemesis.
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Listening to it now. Haven't bothered with Strats basically ever. 5 songs in. It's not bad. I like music like this but it's pretty generic. It's hard to tell if it's inspired or not. Lots of catchy hooks though, I'll give it that. I do feel like I'll like it more on subsequent listens. And I'm not saying I don't like it.
I find it really inspired actually. Loving it, listening again right now.
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Listening now and so far it's all the things I don't like about power metal.. Too cheerful, bass drum just going dubbadubbadubba all the time, and those horrible dance music keyboards.
I just like minor keys too much.
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Listening now and so far it's all the things I don't like about power metal.. Too cheerful, bass drum just going dubbadubbadubba all the time, and those horrible dance music keyboards.
I just like minor keys too much.
I don't know, it must be me, but I don't really hear these things too much at all. Not compared to Tolkki Strato anyway.
If you don't like the double kick, definitely don't check older Strato. :lol
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Listening now and so far it's all the things I don't like about power metal.. Too cheerful, bass drum just going dubbadubbadubba all the time, and those horrible dance music keyboards.
I just like minor keys too much.
I don't know, it must be me, but I don't really hear these things too much at all. Not compared to Tolkki Strato anyway.
If you don't like the double kick, definitely don't check older Strato. :lol
I don't like the double kick either as a rule but I love older Strato............on the 2-3 songs each album where they slowed it down and riffed away. ;D Stuff like We Hold The Key, Kiss Of Judas, Uncertainty etc...is some of my favourite power metal of all time . Just a shame there was such a low weighting of that style on most of their albums , but more than worth it for those few songs. The Fourth Dimension made my DTF Top 50 as I felt the double kick stuff was a bit less overpowering.
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I know exactly what you are saying. I always felt their albums had brilliant material, but none really hit the home run on a whole, whereas plenty of songs did.
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I've only bought their best of and Kiss of Judas was the major stand out for me
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Definitely one of their best songs.
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I've only bought their best of and Kiss of Judas was the major stand out for me
I have the chosen ones best of which is pretty good, plus infinity and a couple of he post Tolkki albums. I didn't hate nemesis, maybe I wasn't in the mood. There's far worse power metal out there.
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hmmm, good to see such a nice price for the Pagan's Mind blu-ray, but that doesnt feel right it's so cheap (plus the comments about how its such a good movie :lol)
https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind (https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind)
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In the uk it's more than that in £s so we don't get a great deal there. Those reviews are obviously for something else, or are those fake ones that have been in the news recently.
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hmmm, good to see such a nice price for the Pagan's Mind blu-ray, but that doesnt feel right it's so cheap (plus the comments about how its such a good movie :lol)
https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind (https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind)
I was actually thrown a little by the price compared to the new Masterplan and a few others I noticed too.
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hmmm, good to see such a nice price for the Pagan's Mind blu-ray, but that doesnt feel right it's so cheap (plus the comments about how its such a good movie :lol)
https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind (https://www.amazon.com/Pagans-Mind-Full-Circle-Blu-ray/dp/B012WUHAC6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447237117&sr=8-2&keywords=pagans+mind)
I was actually thrown a little by the price compared to the new Masterplan and a few others I noticed too.
I kind of want to snatch this up at this price, but I am worried about what I will actually get. Glad its listed as all regions now though.
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I have a question about concept albums. Ive always thought of a concept album as an album that tells a story from track to track, start to finish, right? Then I see albums that seem to be a random collection of songs that are considered concept albums became there's maybe one or two tracks that are related, one being the title track.
A perfect example of this is Helloween. They have more then one album that is considered concept albums that aren't really. Those are The Keepers albums (all 3), and The Time of The Oath. The Keepers albums have songs about a crazy scientists who makes monsters and other non Keeper story related songs. But then the last song is the title Keeper song that tells a story (the titular concept), and a intro and outro that references it. I may be wrong., but that's not what I call a concept album. The 3rd keeper has a few more keeper story songs, but it also has songs about pleasure drones and childhood molestation.
The Time of The Oath is the same. Obviously there's the title track, about Nostradamus, and I think We Burn and Before The War relate to it also,. Then there's Steel Tormentor and If I Knew, among many others totally unrelated to this 'concept'.
If I'm wrong about any of this feel free to correct me. But from what I can tell, albums like these should not be considered concept albums. Operation Mindcrime is a concept album. Seventh Son is a concept album (I'm pretty sure). Avantasia puts out concept albums. It bugs me when people call stuff like the Keepers records concept albums.
If anyone has any insight into this, feel free to share ;p
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As far as I'm concerned, Keepers and The Time of the Oath aren't concept albums, no matter what other people or sites say.
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Time of the Oath is an amazing album, but I never thought of it as a concept album.
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As far as I'm concerned, Keepers and The Time of the Oath aren't concept albums, no matter what other people or sites say.
This.
Time of the Oath is an amazing album, but I never thought of it as a concept album.
And this.
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I remember when Keepers Pt 2 was released, reading an interview where they had a loose concept and some of the songs were connected to it (Eagle Fly Free, You Always Walk Alone, title track). But then they had a number of other tracks (Dr. Stein, Rise And Fall) that were not connected.
I seem the remember they broke down which songs were which, but all you had to do was listen to the album to figure it out.
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Got this from enterthevault.com just now
Luca Turilli's Rhapsody and Primal Fear will co/headline a North American tour in 2016
General Admission and VIp tickets are available
VIP includes a poster and early entry and a MEET / GREET WITH BOTH BANDS
that is correct , both bands will participate in the meet/greet
Tickets onsale now
26.04.2016 USA Hartford - Webster Theater
28.04.2016 USA New York City - Stage 48
29.04.2016 USA Pittsburgh - Altar Bar
30.04.2016 USA Cleveland - Agora Theater
01.05.2016 USA Detroit - Token Longue
03.05.2016 USA Chicago - Concord Music Hall
04.05.2016 USA Minneapolis - Mill City Nights
05.05.2016 USA Kansas City - Granada Theater
06.05.2016 USA Denver - Bluebird Theater
08.05.2016 USA Seattle - El Corazon
09.05.2016 CAN Vancouver – Rickshaw Theater
11.05.2016 USA San Francisco – Rockbar Theater
12.05.2016 USA Los Angeles - The Grove
13.05.2016 USA Las Vegas - LVCS
14.05.2016 USA San Diego - Brick By Brick
15.05.2016 USA Phoenix - Club Red
17.05.2016 USA Dallas - Trees
18.05.2016 USA Houston - Scout Bar
20.05.2016 USA Orlando - The Haven
21.05.2016 USA Tampa - Orpheum
22.05.2016 USA Atlanta – The Masquerade
24.05.2016 USA Baltimore - Soundstage
25.05.2016 USA Albany - Upstate Concert Hall
26.05.2016 USA Philadelphia – The Trocadero
28.05.2016 USA Worcester – The Palladium
30.05.2016 CAN Montreal - Club Soda
31.05.2016 CAN Quebec City - Imperial
01.06.2016 CAN Toronto - Mod Club
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Fuck, this new Masterplan DVD is really disappointing. The whole damn thing is overdubbed and badly I might add. The CD is good and the performances presented are strong, and Rick sounds great on the old stuff but the DVD is terrible. I can't believe they released this to be honest.
I've been going off concert DVD's for a while and this supports that. I'm actually hesitant to get the Pagan's Mind and Harem Scarem ones too. :-\
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Fuck, this new Masterplan DVD is really disappointing. The whole damn thing is overdubbed and badly I might add. The CD is good and the performances presented are strong, and Rick sounds great on the old stuff but the DVD is terrible. I can't believe they released this to be honest.
That sucks!
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Fuck, this new Masterplan DVD is really disappointing. The whole damn thing is overdubbed and badly I might add. The CD is good and the performances presented are strong, and Rick sounds great on the old stuff but the DVD is terrible. I can't believe they released this to be honest.
That sucks!
Damn... I can't watch it yet (cuz it doesn't play on PS3s), but was listening to it yesterday. SOUNDS really good.
I'll watch Pagan's Mind and let you know how it is. I'll still be supporting my boys, and getting Live at Phoenix.
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I listened to the cd first and thought the same thing, I'm happy with the cd. The DVD just seems like the audio and visual are from totally different performances. Mainly Roland though that's the worst. All his guitar tracks are redone I'm sure. Maybe that's why I'm so disappointed as Roland I'm really keen on.
I probably will end up getting both the Pagan's Mind and Harem Scarem though.
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I love Roland Grapow, but he does this kind of stuff at least since High Live. :lol
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I love Roland Grapow, but he does this kind of stuff at least since High Live. :lol
Am i the only one who thinks Chameleon is a great album? one of my favorite by Helloween. it has a special vibe and from what i understand it was Grapow who led them to that direction.
Also, The dark ride :metal
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Chameleon is a mixed bag and easily the worst of the Kiske era. You could tell the band was being torn apart at the seams.
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Both Chameleon and Pink Bubbles have some excellent tracks on them. Also some pretty weak ones.
If you condensed both into one album with the strong tracks, it would be one stellar disc.
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Pink Bubbles has really aged well. I remember buying Pink Bubbles and Metallica's TBA on the same day. I was like WTF?
Both have aged ecxellently.
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Giants is one of my favorite Helloween songs. When The Sinner is also very good. But yeah, both Pink Bubbles and Chameleon are mixed bags, some good stuff, and some not so good.
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I'm with you on Giants. I like the live versions to When The Sinner. And First Time musically is amazing but has cringeworthy lyrics.
I'm a huge Kiske fan so I think Longing is spectacular.
Can't wait to see what tunes Roland rerecords. He mentioned The Chance. Nobody is going to top what Kiske did on that. Nobody.
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Giants, Step out of Hell and Crazy Cat are probably my favorites from Chameleon
And Tim, considering you are the biggest Keeper albums fan on DTF, I could only imagine your shock when you first heard Pink Bubbles lol
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Pink Bubbles is easily the better album of the two, but neither ever did much for me.
Thank fuck Deris came in IMO.
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Giants, Step out of Hell and Crazy Cat are probably my favorites from Chameleon
And Tim, considering you are the biggest Keeper albums fan on DTF, I could only imagine your shock when you first heard Pink Bubbles lol
Oh yeah. Like I said I bought TBA at the same time. I bought them both while in New Jersey visiting my college roommate. I alternated both on the drive home to Mass. I wasn't sure which band I was more disappointed in.
And Step Out Of Hell is :metal
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Pink Bubbles is easily the better album of the two, but neither ever did much for me.
Thank fuck Deris came in IMO.
I can't remember, was Kiske actually fired or was it a mutual decision?
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I think it's the former. As far as I know, Kiske still holds a grudge with Weikath.
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yes, I checked it out and he was fired due to creative differences.
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I believe Kiske was upset when Kai left.
You can tell there were creative differences just by listening to Chameleon. It's like two different bands recorded that album.
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And it´s amazing how much focused they got after that, Master Of The Rings is such a great record.
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And it´s amazing how much focused they got after that, Master Of The Rings is such a great record.
Indeed it is, amazing return to form.
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New Rhapsody of Fire;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6VtmQxsg0
Not bad at all actually. The last one was decent. Great solo.
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New Rhapsody of Fire;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6VtmQxsg0
Not bad at all actually. The last one was decent. Great solo.
Yeah, this was not bad at all. I guess I need to listen to Dark Wings again, because I don't remember jack shit about it. The two before that were really shit as I recall.
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New Rhapsody of Fire;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__6VtmQxsg0
Not bad at all actually. The last one was decent. Great solo.
Yeah, this was not bad at all. I guess I need to listen to Dark Wings again, because I don't remember jack shit about it. The two before that were really shit as I recall.
I haven't enjoyed a Rhapsody/Rhapsody of Fire album since Dawn of Victory. It all got so serious sounding, which just makes the ridiculousness of it all so much worse.
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A lot of the songs Masterplan rerecords will probably be from Dark Ride. Roland on many occasions has said he thinks that's Helloween's best record. I love the songs he wrote for the album. The Departed and Escalation 666 are awesome, and the title track is badass dark power metal. The Dark Ride is also the album where Deris sounds the best IMO.
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I agree, The Dark Ride is awesome. I'm interested to hear the re-recorded tracks
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I echo that 100%! The Dark Ride contains some of the best Helloween songs imo. The title track is awesome!
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Dark Ride is an awesome album indeed. Glad that i got to see them live on that tour.
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Dark Ride is an awesome album indeed. Glad that i got to see them live on that tour.
Art, if you don't mind my asking, where in the world are you located?
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Helloween should have kept Roland and Uli and stayed with this sound IMO.
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Dark Ride is an awesome album indeed. Glad that i got to see them live on that tour.
Art, if you don't mind my asking, where in the world are you located?
Brazil! São Paulo is the city. (that explains my bad english :blush :lol )
And yeah, the formation with Uli Kusch and Roland is my favorite!
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Your English is fine. That wasn't why I asked. I was just wondering.
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Your English is fine. That wasn't why I asked. I was just wondering.
:tup
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Helloween should have kept Roland and Uli and stayed with this sound IMO.
Always loved Ulis drumming, he's an underrated drummer imo. His work on Helloweens TDR and his two Masterplan albums are awesome and some of my favourite power metal drumming moments.
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A lot of the songs Masterplan rerecords will probably be from Dark Ride. Roland on many occasions has said he thinks that's Helloween's best record. I love the songs he wrote for the album. The Departed and Escalation 666 are awesome, and the title track is badass dark power metal. The Dark Ride is also the album where Deris sounds the best IMO.
Roland didn't write the Departed, Uli did.
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Sweeeet, got my Pagan's Mind Blu-Ray/CD in the mail, plan on watching it over the weekend :metal
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I'll get it eventually.
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Okay what is everyone's best/fave/top power metal releases of the year and WHY?
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If we're talking traditional power metal, I'd go with Stratovarius' Eternal. Briliant, mature, catchy and well written power metal and IMO a big step up from Nemesis.
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If we're talking traditional power metal, I'd go with Stratovarius' Eternal. Briliant, mature, catchy and well written power metal and IMO a big step up from Nemesis.
I couldn't disagree more. Especially on the last part. :biggrin:
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If we're talking traditional power metal, I'd go with Stratovarius' Eternal. Briliant, mature, catchy and well written power metal and IMO a big step up from Nemesis.
I couldn't disagree more. Especially on the last part. :biggrin:
I think you may have mentioned that once or twice. :biggrin:
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Finally watched the full Pagans Mind concert. It's a long one so I watched in a few sittings and sometimes multitasked. I was only familiar with a few of the songs so most of it was new to me, but I really like it.
The concert is really quality. I like the sound and the picture on blu Ray is really crisp. It's amazing how a low budget band can put out something with this good audio/visual quality. It's a no frills concert, just them playing but that's fine because they do a really good performance. The instrument al full circle is awesome! Will definitely be listening to the CDs to get to know the songs before I give another watch though.
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Looks like I should get my ass around to ordering it. It's still a really good price too.
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Looks like I should get my ass around to ordering it. It's still a really good price too.
Yea, amazon had a very good price on it. I'd probably enjoy it a lot more had I known the music. That's why I want to listen a bunch more before I watch again. And that adds to the value, for like 14 bucks I got a blu ray AND 2CDs of music. That's an absurd value.
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New Van Canto album set for March 2016!
This time a collaboration with fantasy writer Christoph Hardebusch, so the album will be a rock opera that serves as a soundtrack to a new novel. And they also worked with the London Metro Voices choir, which is actually a quite famous choir.
Anyways, more info on their newsfeed: https://vancanto.de/ (https://vancanto.de/)
Color me interested, I often enjoy their music. A previous storytelling effort of theirs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uOhCWvovSE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uOhCWvovSE)
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And it´s amazing how much focused they got after that, Master Of The Rings is such a great record.
Indeed it is, amazing return to form.
I wouldn't necessarily call Master of The Rings a return to form. It is a return to something harder and faster than the two before it, but it wasn't until Time of The Oath that they really returned to form and started writing classic Helloween style power metal. MoTR was more hard rock than Keepers or ToTO, but obviously still metal, just lacking the power metal of usual Halloween.
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MOTR >>> TTOTO IMO.
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MOTR >>> TTOTO IMO.
Same.........and songs like Sole Survivor were some of the heaviest stuff they had done to that point.
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MOTR >>> TTOTO IMO.
Same.........and songs like Sole Survivor were some of the heaviest stuff they had done to that point.
Absolutely. The first 5 song run is stellar and the quality doesn't really dip IMO as the album goes on. TTOTO isn't consistently strong all the way through but songs like the title track, Steel Tormentor and Before the War are great.
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Both are pretty even for me, but if I had to pick one, it would be TTOTO. The title track is just spectacular.
And yeah, Steel Tormentor and Before the War are great.
The first four Deris/Helloween albums are my favorite by far of his era; those are my go to.
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Yeah, once Better Than Raw came along, it was another level IMO. Dark Ride is obviously brilliant too.
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I was blown away by Better than Raw
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Such a heavy, well produced, great sounding album, with incredible songs.
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That was the first album I bought from Helloween and suffice to say, it won me over.
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Dark Ride was actually my first, and it totally floored me.
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I like Helloween and all, but there is actually a dedicated thread for them here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=17468.msg2021887#msg2021887). It's been a bit lonely there for the last two months.
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I like Helloween and all, but there is actually a dedicated thread for them here (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=17468.msg2021887#msg2021887). It's been a bit lonely there for the last two months.
Yeah I know, since I started the thread and all.
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Yeah I know, since I started the thread and all.
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound snarky, I was just pointing out that this thread tends to diverge to Helloween when they already have a thread. I know they are really important to the genre, but I just think that a general Power Metal thread should be about upstarts or obscurities within the genre rather than big names like Helloween or Stratovarius (that both already have a discussion thread).
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
I have it waiting at the post office. My parcel with the Pagan's Mind included in it tried to get delievered yesterday but no one was home and it went back to the post office. Just went there now to try and get it and it closed cause is New Years Eve!! WTF?! Gotta wait til Monday to pick it up now. >:(
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
I have it waiting at the post office. My parcel with the Pagan's Mind included in it tried to get delievered yesterday but no one was home and it went back to the post office. Just went there now to try and get it and it closed cause is New Years Eve!! WTF?! Gotta wait til Monday to pick it up now. >:(
Kade, where are most of your music orders shipped from? How long does it usually take to get to Australia?
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
I have it waiting at the post office. My parcel with the Pagan's Mind included in it tried to get delievered yesterday but no one was home and it went back to the post office. Just went there now to try and get it and it closed cause is New Years Eve!! WTF?! Gotta wait til Monday to pick it up now. >:(
That blows!
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
I have it waiting at the post office. My parcel with the Pagan's Mind included in it tried to get delievered yesterday but no one was home and it went back to the post office. Just went there now to try and get it and it closed cause is New Years Eve!! WTF?! Gotta wait til Monday to pick it up now. >:(
Kade, where are most of your music orders shipped from? How long does it usually take to get to Australia?
Been going through Amazon lately. They are pretty professional and I usually can get my stuff in 5-7 working days.
So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
I have it waiting at the post office. My parcel with the Pagan's Mind included in it tried to get delievered yesterday but no one was home and it went back to the post office. Just went there now to try and get it and it closed cause is New Years Eve!! WTF?! Gotta wait til Monday to pick it up now. >:(
That blows!
Yeah, I was looking forward to some new stuff for the new years weekend. The package also contains;
Harem Scarem
Stryper
Voodoo Circle
Khymera
Epysode (Fantasmagoria) - liked it enough to purchase it. :tup
Solution .45
So pretty annoying indeed.
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^ Nice haul there.
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^ Nice haul there.
I knew you'd appreciate the Solution .45 pruchase. :tup
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:lol
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Remembered early Saturday morning that the post office opens until 11:30, so I got my order. :metal
Just put on Solution .45 but haven't listened to anything else yet and will take me quite a few days to get through everything.
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Yeah there is a huge uproar that AU Post shut many shops on NYE without telling anyone.
I'm still waiting for an amazon package from 2 weeks weeks ago and from NB.
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Yeah there is a huge uproar that AU Post shut many shops on NYE without telling anyone.
I'm still waiting for an amazon package from 2 weeks weeks ago and from NB.
Fair enough too, I had no idea. But then they opened on the Saturday, which even though I could get my package, is fucking stupid.
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How are you digging the Stryper Kade?
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How are you digging the Stryper Kade?
When I get around to it bro I'll post some thoughts. Can't believe how time has flown and I've let this slip by after a couple of months.
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This is probably the right place to put this...
Dear THUNDERSTONErs! This is the day you—and we!—have been waiting for:
We are extremely proud to announce that our sixth album, APOCALYPSE AGAIN, will be released 1 April 2016 through Sakara Records/Sony Music (Finland), Marquee (Japan, S Korea, Taiwan), and AFM records (ROW). The first official single, THE PATH, will be released 10 February 2016. We are heading to the filming studio tomorrow to shoot a video for the song with our dear friend and video wizard Owe Lingwall, whose credentials include luminaries such as Meshuggah, The Rasmus, Stratovarius, and Amorphis.
Says Nino: ”This is in many ways a return to form—not just in a nostalgic sense, but going back to what we started with and creating something new at the same time. We really wanted to honour all the fans and friends who have stuck with us from the beginning, and I think everyone who picked up our first album all those years ago will be massively happy with APOCALYPSE AGAIN. We sure as hell are! Expect melody overkill, sing-along choruses, fast lead runs and overall arse-kickery! We’re back!”
:frank:
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How are you digging the Stryper Kade?
I'm halfway through it and it's really awesome so far.
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How are you digging the Stryper Kade?
I'm halfway through it and it's really awesome so far.
:metal
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How are you digging the Stryper Kade?
I'm halfway through it and it's really awesome so far.
:metal
I've listened to it twice now and I think it could be bigger than Jesus. Fucking beautiful album, really really good. Heavy guitars, powerful, strong vox, incredible guitar solos and overall good heavy shit.
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Wow can't get a better review then that lol
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So I haven't stopped listening to Pagan's Mind for a few weeks now since I got the blu-ray/CD. I only have Heavenly Ecstasy and I came back to that album and rediscovered why I really loved this album. Not just the progressive and power of the music, not just the sick guitarist, not the soaring vocals, or the spacey feel of the keyboards, but the lyrics. Songs like Never Walk Alone, Power of Mindscape, Intermission, Live Your Life Like a Dream all just seem to hit me somewhere. All the music and awesomeness just is extra on top. :metal :metal
i love those guys. I remember when I first heard them back when Celestial Entrance came out and thinking it was the bee's knees. I had bought it on a whim and listened to it nonstop.
As far as the Stryper, are people discussing it just because it came as an ancillary thought, because I checked it out thinking it was power metal. Boy, was I wrong. :lol
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Wow can't get a better review then that lol
I'm probably being a bit over the top, I just didn't really expect anything from it and as you can see didn't rush to get it, so I guess I was just nicely surprised.
As far as the Stryper, are people discussing it just because it came as an ancillary thought,
Pretty much.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but close enough:
DYNAZTY TO RELEASE TITANIC MASS IN APRIL
"...At long last, Dynazty will release their fifth album Titanic Mass on April 15th via Spinefarm Records....
...This time, they chose to maintain the overall bite and tightness of Renatus while taking a courteous nod in the direction of power metal and adding a symphonic element; yes, the arrangements are "Titanic" this time! The band has succeeded in making the songs yet another notch more addictive than before.
The edgy yet massive production of Peter Tägtgren (Sabaton, Pain, Dimmu Borgir) elevates Titanic Mass to Dynazty's ultimate statement to date.
"Titanic Mass is the culmination of all the knowledge we've learned and all the experience we've gained over the years writing songs and making albums. Our efforts combined with the mastery of producer Peter Tägtgren has resulted in an album that we feel is really strong. To us, Titanic Mass is without a doubt our ultimate effort,” comments the band....."
(https://bravewords.com/medias-static/images/news/2016/DynaztyTitanicMass.jpg)
Fuck yeah!
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Renatus was incredible. This is a definite purchase.
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Me too. They've become very reliable performers.
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I think Seneca sent them in Round 1 of The TAC Roulette. Won the round IIRC. I may jump in on them with this.
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Sultans of Sin is my favourite by them. I remember I was decorating and a track from SoS came on. I didn't recognise it but thought the singer was incredible. Gave me a sense of DIO from the Holy Diver days.
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Sultans of Sin is my favourite by them.
Same. I really like them but so far I don't think the songwriting (or production) has quite reached the same plane as the ability of the singer.
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Sultans of Sin is my favourite by them.
Same. I really like them but so far I don't think the songwriting (or production) has quite reached the same plane as the ability of the singer.
Which of their first albums should I get? They aren't on Spotify, so it'll be deaf purchases upon your recommendaions.
Go.
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Sultans of Sin is my favourite by them.
Same. I really like them but so far I don't think the songwriting (or production) has quite reached the same plane as the ability of the singer.
Hmmm....I only have Renatus so looks like I need to check this one out too.
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Sultans of Sin is my favourite by them.
Same. I really like them but so far I don't think the songwriting (or production) has quite reached the same plane as the ability of the singer.
Which of their first albums should I get? They aren't on Spotify, so it'll be deaf purchases upon your recommendaions.
Go.
I really wouldn't bother going any further back than Sultans of Sin tbh. That album was a big jump in quality from what I remember. I don't have the earlier albums but have heard them.
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The only power metal I listen to are Edguy and Helloween. I'm looking for some recommendations. For example, my favorite Edguy albums are Hellfire Club, Rocket Ride and Age of The Joker.a couple of my favorite Helloween albums are Better Than Raw, Dark Ride, Actually pretty much all Deris era.
Based on these, what bands would you recommend? I'm also going to get into Stratovarius. Based on these albums, which of their records should I look into first?
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Visions, Destiny, Infinite, Elysium.
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Pretty much what wolking mentioned, but also check out Cain's Offering.
Featuring The Strato singer, ex Sonata guitarist and Strato keyboardist Jens Johansson.
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I was super impressed with Stormcrow. Both albums are great.
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Nemesis is the best them regarding Stratovarius albums.
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Nemesis is the best them regarding Stratovarius albums.
I listened to that again the other day and I still can't really click with it. It's solid and all but not one of my favs. I think Eternal was much better.
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Nemesis is the best them regarding Stratovarius albums.
I listened to that again the other day and I still can't really click with it. It's solid and all but not one of my favs. I think Eternal was much better.
That's how I feel about Eternal. :lol Everything just blurs together for me with that one and it sounds less original than Nemesis did to me.
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I was super impressed with Stormcrow. Both albums are great.
Jani L has got a surprisingly good voice too, his demo's on the Japan Tour Edition are excellent.
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Both Nemesis and Eternal seem to be cut from the same cloth, but Nemesis to my ears will always come out on top.
Not sure why, but Eternal never hit the same sweet spot as Nemesis did.
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Matter of tastes I guess boys. Shows the strength of both albums I suppose. I'd prefer Elysium over both though actually. :lol
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Dreamspace is the only Stratovarius album that's ever done anything for me.
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I like Elysium a lot too, but yeah, Dreamspace reigns supreme for me.
My strato ranking:
1a: Dreamspace
1b: Elysium
3. Visions
4. Fourth Dimension
5. Polaris
6. Destiny
7. Eternal
8+: the rest
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I have a bit of a soft spot for the self titled. I think it got a really bad wrap.
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I have a bit of a soft spot for the self titled. I think it got a really bad wrap.
I enjoyed it, as well. As a matter of fact, I think the lead off track is the only one that doesn't really do anything for me.
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I have a bit of a soft spot for the self titled. I think it got a really bad wrap.
I bloody hate the album, it's the only Stratovarius CD that I do not own, not even to fill the gap in the collection.
For me it was Tolkki at his lowest whilst in the band.
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Yeah, see I don't get the hate for it at all.
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So I have Elysium and it's not bad. Need to warm up to it more. So far it seems like pretty standard of what's being done in the power metal scene right now. I'd like to check ot some of their more classic albums (not interested in the ones with Tolkki singing).
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I was super impressed with Stormcrow. Both albums are great.
heh, wasn't even aware of the other one. Is it similar to Stormcrow?
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I was super impressed with Stormcrow. Both albums are great.
heh, wasn't even aware of the other one. Is it similar to Stormcrow?
Yeah, pretty much. if you liked Stormcrow you'll like the debut.
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Is Firewind metal? I've listened to a bit of them, what I've heard is impressive. But I've heard in more than one place that they don't consider themselves power metal. So I looked up some interviews and it's true, they don't consider themselves a PM band. But they play totally in a power metal style and have many songs with fantasy lyrics. What's up with that??
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They are metal and yeah, I'd probably call them sort of in the power metal vein. Not a lot of emphasis on keys. Most of their albums are really, really loud. (brickwalled) But they do have some pretty good albums. I like all of their albums but I think "The Premonition" is my favorite.
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I've been listening to this band called Soto lately. They've got two albums, their latest is called "Divak" and they have another called "Inside The Vertigo"
A little hard to describe and not really power metal in the traditional sense. "Divak" is actually a pretty progressive album, but at times they remind me of mid and late-era Savatage. Killer vocalist.
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I've been listening to this band called Soto lately. They've got two albums, their latest is called "Divak" and they have another called "Inside The Vertigo"
A little hard to describe and not really power metal in the traditional sense. "Divak" is actually a pretty progressive album, but at times they remind me of mid and late-era Savatage. Killer vocalist.
It's Jeff Scott Soto, from Malmsteen's first two albums and Talisman fame, plus his own solo material, he's a legend. The first album is really good, I haven't picked up the second one yet but it's on my list.
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Oh, man, if you liked "Inside The Vertigo" just go get "Divak" it's even better imho.
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Nice man, I'll move it up on the priority list then.
It seems the general opinion is that the fans aren't digging this new band and direction as much as his AOR solo melodic rock stuff. I find it quite fresh.
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Yeah, me too. It's pretty modern sounding, but it's still got some of those more classic sounding organs and synths here and there. And the vocals. Damn. :eek
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Have you never heard of him before??
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I'll check it out.
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I probably have more discs in my collection featuring JSS than any other singer - but yeah..............his more modern songs for the most part (and his black painted nails :lol ) aren't doing it for me.
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Damage Control is still such an amazing melodic rock record. I like the Soto thing, but wished he did continue on with what he was doing on that album.
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They are metal and yeah, I'd probably call them sort of in the power metal vein. Not a lot of emphasis on keys. Most of their albums are really, really loud. (brickwalled) But they do have some pretty good albums. I like all of their albums but I think "The Premonition" is my favorite.
I've been listening to their album Few Against Many for the last couple days. I really enjoy it. It's got real classic/traditional metal sound to it. None of that symphonic stuff I'm not very fond of. I don't know, it doesn't sound like straight forward power metal. I think maybe their earlier stuff was in much more of a classic power metal style, because Few Against Many is more traditional metal like Priest, Accept, Maiden etc.
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Have you never heard of him before??
I'd heard the name mentioned a few times here and there. I guess I just never took an interest in any of the music he's been involved with before. Never cared much for Malmsteen -he's great, no doubt, but it's just not my thing.
Don't think I've heard a single note from that other band you mentioned either.
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Damage Control is still such an amazing melodic rock record. I like the Soto thing, but wished he did continue on with what he was doing on that album.
I'll check it out.
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That's cool man.
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Listened to the samples of Damage Control on Amazon.com
Sounds pretty...mellow. Not what I expected. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Some of the songs sounded pretty catchy and the MP3 album is only $7.99 so I'll probably just grab it.
Amazing pipes on this guy.
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Check some old school Talisman also mate. Not that heavy but awesome material. The Soto stuff I think would probably be the heaviest stuff he's done. Brent could probably clarify that.
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I'm not a fan of symphonic power metal. Stratovarius is okay though.
From what I've heard, Hammerfall just sounds like traditional heavy metal that's sped up faster. What are some other good non-symphonic power metal bands?
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Have you never heard of him before??
HIM isnt that bad, I enjoy them quite a bit actually :biggrin:
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Woot ... new DGM coming in August
https://www.facebook.com/frontiersmusicsrl/videos/1067091486680235/
45 seconds of goodness.
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Been listening to the band Borealis, I heard about them through The Metal Voice and I usually have similar tastes as those guys. Borealis is quite good. They're definitely a power metal band, but more of a progressive power metal. They sound similar to Evergrey.
Can anyone recommend some non -symphonic power metal bands like Helloween, Edguy, or Firewind?
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Lost in Thought is a power prog metal band that I like a fair bit. I don't think they sound much like any of those three bands (which I don't find to be similar to each other in sound either, but OK), but they definitely fall under your broader request of non-symphonic power(ish) metal.
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Lost in Thought are an excellent band, probably one of the better bands in the genre right now. With so many prog/power bands being cookie cutter I feel like LiT are definitely a nice change.
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Been listening to the band Borealis, I heard about them through The Metal Voice and I usually have similar tastes as those guys. Borealis is quite good. They're definitely a power metal band, but more of a progressive power metal. They sound similar to Evergrey.
Can anyone recommend some non -symphonic power metal bands like Helloween, Edguy, or Firewind?
Why don't you like keyboards/orchestra in power metal?
I love PM, but don't like many bands that don't have the symphonic element.
Falconer are one band that comes to mind, their discography is pretty strong, though I haven't heard the albums they did without original singer, Mathias Blad.
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I'm not sure how to explain why Im not a fan of symphonic elements in my power metal. I just don't really like it. Maybe I just need to find the right band. When I compare, say, Stratovarius to Hammerfall, Hammerfall is just way more appealing, despite the fantasy lyrics.
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I just discovered the band Powerwolf and Holy Hell are they awesome! I have their album Blessed & Possessed and can't stop listening. This is power metal I love. The vocals are great because they're different, his voice is deeper and raspier than 95% of vocalists in this genre. But still classic Power Metal. Highly recommended.
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Nailed it. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpe8eNdpAiM
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Ive been getting a lot more into Accept recently, especially their newer stuff but the classic stuff is good too. I consider them classic Heavy Metal, like Maiden and Priest. But "Fast As A Shark" has got to be the origin of power metal.A lot of people say it was more a precursor to thrash or "speed" metal, but I say it was power metal. It has all the ingredients. I guarantee Michael Weikath was influenced by it when he wrote early Helloween songs, especially by the chorus.
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I'm finally giving Light of Dawn, the last Unisonic album, a good listen. It's a step up from their generic sounding debut. The songs are much stronger and more in a power metal style, which I find interesting because they were always saying they would be a hard rock band. Yet there is a lot of power metal on Light of Dawn. I'm really enjoying it. It's like hard rock with some metal and power metal thrown in.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
As is their debut, to be honest. I love both Unisonic albums.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
As is their debut, to be honest. I love both Unisonic albums.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
As is their debut, to be honest. I love both Unisonic albums.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
I gave it a listen since a few people here were complimenting it. It started off great. Your Time Has Come is a killer song. Unfortunately, the next few songs were disappointing. They didn't give me that same rush. After Find Shelter, I turned it off. I was really hoping to enjoy this.
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
I gave it a listen since a few people here were complimenting it. It started off great. Your Time Has Come is a killer song. Unfortunately, the next few songs were disappointing. They didn't give me that same rush. After Find Shelter, I turned it off. I was really hoping to enjoy this.
The second half is not as immediate as the first and is a bit of a grower. I'd agree overall the second half isn't as strong as the first though,
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Light Of Dawn is amazing.
I gave it a listen since a few people here were complimenting it. It started off great. Your Time Has Come is a killer song. Unfortunately, the next few songs were disappointing. They didn't give me that same rush. After Find Shelter, I turned it off. I was really hoping to enjoy this.
The second half is not as immediate as the first and is a bit of a grower. I'd agree overall the second half isn't as strong as the first though,
I was excited because it was Kiske and Hansen. Because of that I'll give it another listen over the weekend. The Astonishing took a few listens before it hooked me.
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The second half is definitely not as strong, but I still like it a lot. There's only one clunker.
Night Of The Long Knives :metal
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Might be mistaken and can't look it up right now, but I think the songwriting on Light of Dawn is mostly handled by Dennis Ward.
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Might be mistaken and can't look it up right now, but I think the songwriting on Light of Dawn is mostly handled by Dennis Ward.
Yeah, you are right I think. Hansen contributed nothing and I think Kiske only had a hand in one or two songs.
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A couple of days ago I have another listen to Masterplan's latest album, Novum Initium, and I really enjoyed it this time. When I first got it I couldn't get into it. It just felt lackluster to me and I didn't enjoy the vocals.
But it seems I've warmed up to it, and completely reversed my opinion. It's great, fast, melodic. I still miss Jorn but the new guy pulls it off. And Roland demonstrates once again that he's one of the best songwriters in the metal world.
Time to be a king was lacking something, and it appears they've found it again with this album. I think it's because Jorn's not around anymore putting guidelines on the songwriting.
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Yup, their last album was excellent.
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It was brilliant IMO, looking forward to the next one.
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I confess to not knowing what power metal actually is and never taking the time to figure it out , I've been presuming it's thrash with strings, no?
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I confess to not knowing what power metal actually is and never taking the time to figure it out , I've been presuming it's thrash with strings, no?
I think this thread has been trying to figure out what Power Metal is for the last two years.
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Good question... I just assumed it was regular metal sped up with, the more often than not, symphonic element.
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Power Metal is uplifting, it doesn't need to have strings, there's a name for that and it isn't Power Metal.
Dragonforce is power metal because of its moving nature and fast tempos (albeit this is debatable), yet they don't really spend time on strings.
They tend to use strings, but they can also use techno effects.
That Rhapsody and Kamelot enjoy using symphonic elements doesn't make them power metal, it's the tone of their songs.
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Helloween are the originators of power metal and they have no symphonic elements.
Here are a few songs that represent power metal, or at least the type of power metal I listen to:
Helloween - The Saints
Helloween - Mr. Torture
Edguy - Rise of Morning Glory
Edguy - Return To The Tribe
None of these songs have symphonic elements. Nowadays PM is categorized that way but I feel the best bands in the genre are not symphonic.
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...which is why I said more often than not. The symphonic element is part of its evolution.
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Ive been getting into Hammerfall lately. Surprisingly good, very traditional metal inspired power metal.
And their album infected is really good alright different for them. In theory, very similar to Helloween's Dark Ride.
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They were my introduction to Power Metal specifically Legacy of Kings followed by their debut. Those first two albums are important to me but sadly I lost interest in them after that.
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My introduction to Power Metal was a free CD given away with Metal Hammer Magazine UK back in about 2005 (great bloody year for music that one). It was called Battle Metal II: Kiss My Axe and the track list was pretty incredible and introduced me to bands that I still consider to be my favourite Power Metal bands. The track list was as follows:
1 –Venom Intro Tape 83/84 1:42
2 –Hammerfall Blood Bound 3:49
3 –Sonata Arctica Wildfire 4:38
4 –Dragonforce Fields Of Despair 5:24
5 –Korpiklaani Hunting Song 3:01
6 –Venom Welcome To Hell 2:41
7 –Demons And Wizards* Terror Train 4:47
8 –Turisas Battle Metal 4:23
9 –Saxon Beyond The Grave 4:55
10 –Conquest Of Steel Only The Devil Can Stop Us Now 4:00
11 –Accept Fast As A Shark 3:50
12 –Battlelore Troll Shaws 4:05
13 –Kamelot March Of Mephisto 5:30
14 –Primal Fear Metal Is Forever 4:47
15 –Fear My Thoughts Sweetest Hell 3:49
16 –Freedom Call Mother Earth 4:33
17 –Mob Rules Metal Is Forever 5:43
18 –Machine Men Back From The Days 3:25
Granted, not all the bands listed here are actually Power Metal bands but the compilation is solid as hell. It wasn't my first introduction to Venom as my obsession with Metallica had helped me discover them as an influence. But it was my first exposure to Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica, Hammerfall, Turisas, Saxon, Accept and Primal Fear. Anyone else ever have this back then?
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That's just a great collection of metal right there.
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That's just a great collection of metal right there.
Yea dude, Metal Hammer magazine had a great run of releasing compilation CD's with the magazine. Especially the Battle Metal ones, they have introduced me to a shit ton of bands over the years. I no longer have a subscription with them but maybe I'll get it again one day. I lost interest in the last few years as they started featuring Slipknot in every single issue!! I like Slipknot but I don't want to read about them constantly.
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Yeah I stopped buying those magazines years ago. Total waste of money now IMO. I think I have one of those battle metal ones lying around somewhere, good stuff.
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I loved Metal Hammer back in the 80's. It is because of MH that I discovered Helloween. I vividly remember reading an article and looking at the pictures and I made a blind buy of Keepers Pt1 based on it.
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Used to get MH and Kerrang back in the 80s but haven't bothered with them since 1990 or so when they turned their backs on the bands that had made them and went grunge.
I understand why they did it, but I still hated it.
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I loved Metal Hammer back in the 80's. It is because of MH that I discovered Helloween. I vividly remember reading an article and looking at the pictures and I made a blind buy of Keepers Pt1 based on it.
I think its safe to say that instinct purchase paid off for you lol
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I loved Metal Hammer back in the 80's. It is because of MH that I discovered Helloween. I vividly remember reading an article and looking at the pictures and I made a blind buy of Keepers Pt1 based on it.
I think its safe to say that instinct purchase paid off for you lol
I remember buying the tape, and not far from the record store was a park. Halfway through I'm Alive, I pulled into the park and listened to the entire thing right there with the lyrics and all. That album literally stopped me in my tracks.
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I tried listening to Keepers, but it was a little TOO Power Metal for me. I'm a fan of Power Metal, and I've heard some pretty cool Helloween songs, but I couldn't make it passed the 3rd or 4th song of Part 1.
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Not to go all "old fogey" on you but in 1987, it was jaw dropping.
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I loved Metal Hammer back in the 80's. It is because of MH that I discovered Helloween. I vividly remember reading an article and looking at the pictures and I made a blind buy of Keepers Pt1 based on it.
I think its safe to say that instinct purchase paid off for you lol
I remember buying the tape, and not far from the record store was a park. Halfway through I'm Alive, I pulled into the park and listened to the entire thing right there with the lyrics and all. That album literally stopped me in my tracks.
Fucking masterpiece.
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Holy cow the chorus in Dragonforce's Tomorrow's King is one epic energy pill along with the positive message.
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Holy cow the chorus in Dragonforce's Tomorrow's King is one epic energy pill along with the positive message.
I think Maximum Overload is a great album, and probably the best for me when it comes to Dragonforce.
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I tried listening to Keepers, but it was a little TOO Power Metal for me. I'm a fan of Power Metal, and I've heard some pretty cool Helloween songs, but I couldn't make it passed the 3rd or 4th song of Part 1.
I don't know if you're a fan of Dragonforce, but if the Keeper albums were too power metal for you then stay away from Dragonforce. With the exception of maybe the Keepers title track, Helloween doesn't write cliche power metal lyrics like Dragonforce and others. And ask their songs are very distinguishable from one another. Not that i dislike Dragonforce, they just have very little variety.
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Holy cow the chorus in Dragonforce's Tomorrow's King is one epic energy pill along with the positive message.
I think Maximum Overload is a great album, and probably the best for me when it comes to Dragonforce.
Yea it's a great album even though i'm not to fond of the singer in some parts.
I know they're not for everyones taste but I don't know, for me everytime I listen to them on my way to work or something they put a smile on my face because yes it's ridiculous but it's also exciting and energetic, just what I need to pump me up. I just have a thing for epic choruses and also blasting drums along with tight rythmic guitars. This (https://youtu.be/h7_xoSmOmko?t=2m28s) riff in The Game is just hilarious but still so awesome. :lol
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I tried listening to Keepers, but it was a little TOO Power Metal for me. I'm a fan of Power Metal, and I've heard some pretty cool Helloween songs, but I couldn't make it passed the 3rd or 4th song of Part 1.
I don't know if you're a fan of Dragonforce, but if the Keeper albums were too power metal for you then stay away from Dragonforce. With the exception of maybe the Keepers title track, Helloween doesn't write cliche power metal lyrics like Dragonforce and others. And ask their songs are very distinguishable from one another. Not that i dislike Dragonforce, they just have very little variety.
I do not like them, Sam I Am.
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Holy cow the chorus in Dragonforce's Tomorrow's King is one epic energy pill along with the positive message.
I think Maximum Overload is a great album, and probably the best for me when it comes to Dragonforce.
Yea it's a great album even though i'm not to fond of the singer in some parts.
I know they're not for everyones taste but I don't know, for me everytime I listen to them on my way to work or something they put a smile on my face because yes it's ridiculous but it's also exciting and energetic, just what I need to pump me up. I just have a thing for epic choruses and also blasting drums along with tight rythmic guitars. This (https://youtu.be/h7_xoSmOmko?t=2m28s) riff in The Game is just hilarious but still so awesome. :lol
I'm assuming you've heard all their albums? I've gotta say that for me Sonic Firestorm blows all their other albums away. It came out about 2004/5 and I heard it via the Metal Hammer compilation I'd talked about on this thread the other week. It was the album before Through the Fire and the Flames got them all the exposure. It has the best mix of full throttle songs and epic ballads. When I finally get around to my Top 50 albums it will probably crack the top 25, it's that good!!
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Plus I think one of the things I don't like about Dragonforce is that they often recycle riffs and solos so after a while new songs just remind you of older ones. Sonic Firestorm was only their second album so they hadn't started recycling shit yet so it always felt more fresh to me but that's because I listened to all the albums (except for the debut, which I heard after album #2) in chronological order. It might be different for others.
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Is anyone here a fan of Primal Fear? I've heard good things about them. I was watching the Banger YouTube channel, with the Global Metal guy, and in a Video about power metal they seemed to think Primal Fear was very important to the subgenre.
I've heard they're like a Judas Priest clone. I'm assuming they're main influence is the Painkiller album.
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Is anyone here a fan of Primal Fear? I've heard good things about them. I was watching the Banger YouTube channel, with the Global Metal guy, and in a Video about power metal they seemed to think Primal Fear was very important to the subgenre.
I've heard they're like a Judas Priest clone. I'm assuming they're main influence is the Painkiller album.
Big fan of Primal Fear! There are a few of us on the forum for sure; I've said it before that I think Primal Fear is the best 80's heavy metal band not from the 80's lol.
Primal Fear clearly is influenced by Judas Priest and especially the Painkiller album. You pretty much know what you are getting when a new Primal Fear album comes out, they don't stray too far from the Priest formula
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Is anyone here a fan of Primal Fear?
Yes.
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That sounds like a good and bad thing. I love the Painkiller sound, but I'd that's all they ever do...I don't know about that. Some people say Painkiller was a power metal album, I can see that but it's lacking some important power metal elements. It's more just Speed Metal. Would you ask Primal Fear is power metal?
I'd love to add, Scales of Justice by Avantasia is ridiculously amazing. Tim Owens is really talented. He needs a main band, no more of these "projects".
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Painkiller is not a Power Metal album, at least in a sense that it doesn't align itself with what we've come to know as the European Power Metal Movement.
But it is powerful, and it is metal...
And yes, Scales Of Justice is awesome!!!
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Scales of Justice has got to be my third least favourite song on The Wicked Symphony after Crestfallen and Black Wings. Oh well.
But Primal Fear are awesome. Listened to Delivering the Black this week, what an album. Modern metal masterpiece.
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Scales of Justice has got to be my third least favourite song on The Wicked Symphony after Crestfallen and Black Wings. Oh well.
yea... it's one of my least favorite Avantasia tracks personally. But that's just me.
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Scales of Justice has got to be my third least favourite song on The Wicked Symphony after Crestfallen and Black Wings. Oh well.
But Primal Fear are awesome. Listened to Delivering the Black this week, what an album. Modern metal masterpiece.
That album is classic!! :metal
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Scales of Justice has got to be my third least favourite song on The Wicked Symphony after Crestfallen and Black Wings. Oh well.
yea... it's one of my least favorite Avantasia tracks personally. But that's just me.
Sounds like Scales Of Injustice.
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Scales of Justice has got to be my third least favourite song on The Wicked Symphony after Crestfallen and Black Wings. Oh well.
But Primal Fear are awesome. Listened to Delivering the Black this week, what an album. Modern metal masterpiece.
That album is classic!! :metal
Still one of the best metal albums I've heard in a long long time.
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Huh, because I consider Scales of Justice one of, if not the best, Avantasia songs.
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Anyone pick up the new Sabaton album?
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Anyone pick up the new Sabaton album?
Yeah I gave it a few spins this weekend. It's certainly catchy, as expected, but it seems to me like they've stagnated creatively. It's only 35 mins, and all tracks are between 3 and 4 minutes long. It's almost like they've become a cookie cutter copy of themselves. Also a very synth dominant album where I was hoping we'd have a bit more guitar punch.
Even though I'm let down by the absence of any sort of songwriting progression there are still a lot of great tracks on here. Plus Sabaton puts on a great live show and there are plenty of anthem-type songs that'll rock live.
Don't really have a feel for how others are receiving this one, but for me it's not going to be a top album from their catalog.
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I've tried to get into Sabaton a few times but they just don't really do it for me.
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Anyone pick up the new Sabaton album?
Yeah I gave it a few spins this weekend. It's certainly catchy, as expected, but it seems to me like they've stagnated creatively. It's only 35 mins, and all tracks are between 3 and 4 minutes long. It's almost like they've become a cookie cutter copy of themselves. Also a very synth dominant album where I was hoping we'd have a bit more guitar punch.
Even though I'm let down by the absence of any sort of songwriting progression there are still a lot of great tracks on here. Plus Sabaton puts on a great live show and there are plenty of anthem-type songs that'll rock live.
Don't really have a feel for how others are receiving this one, but for me it's not going to be a top album from their catalog.
I have one of their albums and this was the feel I got from that one (forget, but one of the newer and maybe the newest since this release). Solid music, but very samey throughout the album. Short fun rocker songs. Good for that, but not the type of band I could really sink my teeth into. I also saw them live once, good performance.
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Anyone pick up the new Sabaton album?
Yeah I gave it a few spins this weekend. It's certainly catchy, as expected, but it seems to me like they've stagnated creatively. It's only 35 mins, and all tracks are between 3 and 4 minutes long. It's almost like they've become a cookie cutter copy of themselves. Also a very synth dominant album where I was hoping we'd have a bit more guitar punch.
Even though I'm let down by the absence of any sort of songwriting progression there are still a lot of great tracks on here. Plus Sabaton puts on a great live show and there are plenty of anthem-type songs that'll rock live.
Don't really have a feel for how others are receiving this one, but for me it's not going to be a top album from their catalog.
I have one of their albums and this was the feel I got from that one (forget, but one of the newer and maybe the newest since this release). Solid music, but very samey throughout the album. Short fun rocker songs. Good for that, but not the type of band I could really sink my teeth into. I also saw them live once, good performance.
Yep, that's essentially a solid description of their last album. Unfortunately, this one is more of the same. The songs definitely aren't bad...they're just basically the same thing 12-15 times in a row. I like a bit more variety
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I haven't heard the whole thing, but what I have heard is really great. It's true that they don't vary too much from their core style, but damn, it just really works for me.
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I've tried to get into Sabaton a few times but they just don't really do it for me.
I too am unable to get into them. There's something about the vocals, but the main reason may be the war themes.
Any Powerwolf fans here? Now that's an awesome power metal band!
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Powerwolf, like Sabaton, are just too samey for me to enjoy an album or more of their stuff, but nearly all of their songs are quality power metal that isn't all that innovative or anything, but just tons of fun to listen.
My favourites of their songs are Amen and Attack, Kreuzfeuer, Sanctified With Dynamite, Night of the Werewolves and (just for the sheer ridiculousness) Resurrection by Erection.
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Tried Powerwolf just lately and couldn't get into them either. Didn't like the singer at all.
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Powerwolf just doesn't stand a chance against Leatherwolf!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-W9ItfgXI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq-W9ItfgXI)
New Running Wild record. Apart from some production issues, best work from Rolf and company since Victory, for me. :metal :metal :metal
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New Hammerfall;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EBB26EXopg&feature=youtu.be
Meh, at best.
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Powerwolf, like Sabaton, are just too samey for me to enjoy an album or more of their stuff, but nearly all of their songs are quality power metal that isn't all that innovative or anything, but just tons of fun to listen.
My favourites of their songs are Amen and Attack, Kreuzfeuer, Sanctified With Dynamite, Night of the Werewolves and (just for the sheer ridiculousness) Resurrection by Erection.
That's what I love about them, it's pretty straight forward power metal. Except somewhat different because of the vocalists unique sound, and the lyrical themes which I really enjoy.
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New Hammerfall;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EBB26EXopg&feature=youtu.be
Meh, at best.
sounds like Hammerfall 101 to me
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Typical Hammerfall. Boring, boring, boring.
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Wow, the Hammerfall started out so freaking awesome. But that pre chorus and chorus..yuck!
I'm still getting it! ;D
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This might be the first Hammerfall album I don't buy. I liked the direction they took on Infected, but was killer, but REvolution was alright but back to Hammerfall by the numbers. Sounds like this is headed the same way.
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Man, I've been listening to the hell out of Infected. I've only recently gotten into them. And while I love their usual stuff like Threshold, Crimson Thunder, etc. I really really love the Infected record. They really wear their influences on their sleeves on that album, And I love it.
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I like the first 3 Hammerfall records, but thats it.
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Man, I've been listening to the hell out of Infected. I've only recently gotten into them. And while I love their usual stuff like Threshold, Crimson Thunder, etc. I really really love the Infected record. They really wear their influences on their sleeves on that album, And I love it.
It certainly was something fresh and a fantastic album IMO.
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I need to pull that out.
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I need to pull that out.
let's keep it PG in here ok, buddy
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I need to pull that out.
Let me help you.
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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That Hammerfall track is boring. Bad lyrics, bad chorus, not particularly well sung...In short, something I don't want to listen to. Not my thing.
B.Lee
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New Almah;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXHrA6ro0HY
Not crazy about the chorus, but this is not bad. Has a real old school Helloween and Strato vibe IMO.
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I like that. Never heard of them.
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I like that. Never heard of them.
The singer is Edu who use to be in Angra. This song is a lot more traditional power metal based then what they have been doing.
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I like that. Never heard of them.
The singer is Edu who use to be in Angra. This song is a lot more traditional power metal based then what they have been doing.
Speaking of which..........he has a solo album (been out a few months) that I will be listening to on the weekend. Anyone heard that?
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I like that. Never heard of them.
The singer is Edu who use to be in Angra. This song is a lot more traditional power metal based then what they have been doing.
Speaking of which..........he has a solo album (been out a few months) that I will be listening to on the weekend. Anyone heard that?
Wasn't it just old Almah and Angra songs done with piano and shit? I didn't even bother with it.
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I like that. Never heard of them.
The singer is Edu who use to be in Angra. This song is a lot more traditional power metal based then what they have been doing.
Speaking of which..........he has a solo album (been out a few months) that I will be listening to on the weekend. Anyone heard that?
Wasn't it just old Almah and Angra songs done with piano and shit? I didn't even bother with it.
Could be - maybe that's why I didn't bother with it back on release. Noticed again the other day on a release calender and wondered why I had missed it. Might defer to my original judgement and save the time :lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyqZ676Sg5U
Yeah, I'll pass.
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no thanks
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It's not that bad. I just didn't realize Eric Bana played piano.
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It's not that bad. I just didn't realize Eric Bana played piano.
haha. For me and probably most Aussie's, seeing Bana where he started, it's just impossible for me to take him seriously no matter what he does.
Yeah, with that Edu song, it's a nice rendition, just something I wouldn't listen to.
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now playing........ ;D
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It's not that bad. I just didn't realize Eric Bana played piano.
haha. For me and probably most Aussie's, seeing Bana where he started, it's just impossible for me to take him seriously no matter what he does.
Yeah, with that Edu song, it's a nice rendition, just something I wouldn't listen to.
Where did he start?
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If there was ever a page of useless posts, this may be it.
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It's not that bad. I just didn't realize Eric Bana played piano.
haha. For me and probably most Aussie's, seeing Bana where he started, it's just impossible for me to take him seriously no matter what he does.
Yeah, with that Edu song, it's a nice rendition, just something I wouldn't listen to.
Where did he start?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpS31FJO8_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phDoorkQFXM
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I didn't expect that. :lol
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I didn't expect that. :lol
But I completely expected that answer. :lol
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Bumpity bump bump.
Serious Black - Official announce new album & tour dates!
Melodic power metal force SERIOUS BLACK has just announced new tour dates for September - going along with the release of the band's upcoming third album, "Magic"!
Labelmates HERMAN FRANK will be special guest on the tour, supports are My Own Ghost and StormHammer. Tickets are avaible now.
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Tour is only in Europe. F'n Europeans
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Bumpity bump bump.
Serious Black - Official announce new album & tour dates!
Melodic power metal force SERIOUS BLACK has just announced new tour dates for September - going along with the release of the band's upcoming third album, "Magic"!
Labelmates HERMAN FRANK will be special guest on the tour, supports are My Own Ghost and StormHammer. Tickets are avaible now.
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Tour is only in Europe. F'n Europeans
Uh oh, I may actually catch this one since I will probably still be at Hamburg at September 27th at the end of my two-weeks Ayreon-related vacation. We shall see. Definitely on my radar.
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A third album already? Damn.
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What kind of power metal are they?
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The first album was great, but I didn't dig the second at all. Didn't give it much of a chance though.
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The first album was great, but I didn't dig the second at all. Didn't give it much of a chance though.
#2 was definitely a significant dropoff - 1/2 killer (and I'm being generous here with the term "killer"), and 1/2 definitely filler.
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To be fair, my interest pretty much fell off when Roland left.
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Didn't know Roland wasn't on the second album. For some reason, I just never crossed paths with it. And I liked the first one!
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Didn't know Roland wasn't on the second album. For some reason, I just never crossed paths with it. And I liked the first one!
He left the band not long after the first album was released. The second, even though I only listened through it once, was way below par compared to the first.
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Bumpity bump bump.
Serious Black - Official announce new album & tour dates!
Melodic power metal force SERIOUS BLACK has just announced new tour dates for September - going along with the release of the band's upcoming third album, "Magic"!
Labelmates HERMAN FRANK will be special guest on the tour, supports are My Own Ghost and StormHammer. Tickets are avaible now.
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Tour is only in Europe. F'n Europeans
Yeah, it's revenge for the 80s when you had easy access to all those great bands and we had to wait... 😀
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Serious Black - Official will release THREE albums this year. Seriously!
Prepare for a loooooot of fine melodic metal!
Hope it's a return to form. Mirrorworld was a step back after As Daylight Breaks.
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That's ..um..serious. ;D
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New video from Cellador
https://bravewords.com/news/cellador-debut-break-heresy-music-video
I LOVE this album.
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I tried it earlier this year, eager to see what Cellador was like - as they showed up in a lot of "similar artist" lists on last.fm and Spotify.
I was disappoint.
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I love that album. It has one totally lame song, but it's a lame cover song.
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I liked their first album, so I thought maybe I would like their new one, but I don't think there's a single original riff, melody or chorus on that album. But then again, you can say the same thing about most power metal albums these days.
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:lol
If anyone is looking for me, I'll be over in the corner listening to Cellador all by myself!
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I'll listen in between Brent's podcast Tim. Hopefully I can have your back.
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Just caught that, Serious Black, 3 albums? :lol Come on, WTF?!
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New video from Cellador
https://bravewords.com/news/cellador-debut-break-heresy-music-video
I LOVE this album.
I honestly don't know what to think of this. It's like the band are struggling to find the sound and look they are going for. It's like a mix of power metal, a more modern BFMV style American metal, punk with the singer looking like he could be doing country or something. Nothing I'd check out, but not the worst thing I've heard.
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It's like a mix of power metal, a more modern BFMV style American metal, punk with the singer looking like he could be doing country or something.
:lol
That's a good description.
It's pretty easy on the ears. Not much to think about.
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New video from Cellador
https://bravewords.com/news/cellador-debut-break-heresy-music-video
I LOVE this album.
I honestly don't know what to think of this. It's like the band are struggling to find the sound and look they are going for. It's like a mix of power metal, a more modern BFMV style American metal, punk with the singer looking like he could be doing country or something. Nothing I'd check out, but not the worst thing I've heard.
So in short, "solid"? :lol
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I still need to check this one out properly - tried one track and didn't do much. Will pay a visit to my local cellar door before I try the whole album ...might do the trick.
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If I wasn't already sorry for posting that video...
Will pay a visit to my local cellar door
..I certainly am now. :lol
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New video from Cellador
https://bravewords.com/news/cellador-debut-break-heresy-music-video
I LOVE this album.
I honestly don't know what to think of this. It's like the band are struggling to find the sound and look they are going for. It's like a mix of power metal, a more modern BFMV style American metal, punk with the singer looking like he could be doing country or something. Nothing I'd check out, but not the worst thing I've heard.
So in short, "solid"? :lol
I had that word in there but then thought better of it! :lol
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Pretty decent tune from OO.
https://youtu.be/JPm46Qgyn24
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Pretty decent tune from OO.
https://youtu.be/JPm46Qgyn24
This one is pretty solid too mate;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gagRay7VK8
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Oh yeah already watched this a few times.
I'm not normally a fan of video lyrics but this one works perfectly.
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Definitely thought this band was done, but this news really made me happy :metal:
NOCTURNAL RITES sign with AFM / new album „Phoenix“ out in late September!
There are bands which are badly missed once they disappear from the scene. One of those examples are Swedish melodic metal masters Nocturnal Rites - The Official Site who released their latest album “The 8th Sin” in 2007 and afterwards slowly slipped into a hiatus kind of situation.
We are happy to come up with good news now: NOCTURNAL RITES are back! And not only that; the band has just put finishing touches on their brand new album, titled “Phoenix”, which will be released on September 29th via AFM.
The band states: “We can’t wait to share this new album with everyone. It’s been long overdue. Needless to say, it feels great to finally be back."
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That is indeed some of the best news in a long time.
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Cram needs to visit The Cool Thread. This was mentioned the other day.
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Cram needs to visit The Cool Thread. This was mentioned the other day.
I didn't see it mentioned in the melodic rock Issa thread?!
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Cram needs to visit The Cool Thread. This was mentioned the other day.
I didn't see it mentioned in the melodic rock Issa thread?!
And I hope you never do 😀
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Cram needs to visit The Cool Thread. This was mentioned the other day.
I didn't see it mentioned in the melodic rock Issa thread?!
I said the Cool Thread, not the Fool Thread!
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Cram needs to visit The Cool Thread. This was mentioned the other day.
I didn't see it mentioned in the melodic rock Issa thread?!
I said the Cool Thread, not the Fool Thread!
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Anyone else pick up Phoenix by Nocturnal Rites? Really digging the album, it's more melodic metal than power metal at this point although there's definitely a few classic power metal sounding songs. It feels like they continued where they left off even though it's been so long since their last album. Welcome to the End and The Ghost Inside Me are currently my favorite tracks. :metal :metal Can't wait to see them next year at ProgPower, that's like a dream come true since I've been a fan for awhile and never thought I'd be able to see them, especially after such a long hiatus.
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Too funny... I was just listening to this earlier today. Excellent album. One of their best (imo).
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It's up there with the last couple albums. Hard to decide the best, my initial gut says not the best, but the test of time will tell. It's very good, that's what I know and like I mentioned, feels like they just continued where they left off 10 years ago.
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Anyone else pick up Phoenix by Nocturnal Rites? Really digging the album, it's more melodic metal than power metal at this point although there's definitely a few classic power metal sounding songs. It feels like they continued where they left off even though it's been so long since their last album. Welcome to the End and The Ghost Inside Me are currently my favorite tracks. :metal :metal Can't wait to see them next year at ProgPower, that's like a dream come true since I've been a fan for awhile and never thought I'd be able to see them, especially after such a long hiatus.
Haven't gotten around to listening to it yet. I've heared a few tracks though and some are great but I fear what Brent said about it with everything being the same and a bit formulaic. Saying that, I think I'll still dig it and the addition of Per Nilsson is great.
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Well most power metal feels formulaic to me.
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Well most power metal feels formulaic to me.
True. I will give it a listen before I pass judgement. Their trio hit of New World Messiah, Grand Illusion and The 8th Sin are three of the best and my most fav power metal albums of all time. I guess this new one just has a lot to live up to for me.
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Well most power metal feels formulaic to me.
True. I will give it a listen before I pass judgement. Their trio hit of New World Messiah, Grand Illusion and The 8th Sin are three of the best and my most fav power metal albums of all time. I guess this new one just has a lot to live up to for me.
Yea, those three are fantastic and I would lump this with that trio (I can't decide which of those three is my favorite, depends on the day/mood). I think you'd really enjoy it if you like those albums, but it's definitely more of The 8th Sin sounding than New World Messiah.
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I never thought I'd enjoy a PM band, but these guys (Lor) are great and have many different genres and influences as well. I recommend everyone listen to the (entire) track Eidolon they have on their bandcamp:
https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep
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Didn't find an official Van Canto thread, but I need to rant for a bit.
Just saw that Van Canto has a new album, which was a nice surprise. I hadn't followed them since their last release, which I loved. So, with the immediate joy of discovering a new album by a fave artist and no idea what to expect, I gave it a "spin" (streaming, that is). And... apparently they have a new singer. One that is truly awful to my ears. The guy almost consistently sound like his voice is going to crack. Well, it actually does fucking crack here and there, in a studio recording. It is so bad I can't go further than the first half of the album. And to my ears his singing sounds pitchy in parts as well?
Anyways, here is a new single of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lR8FYr09A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lR8FYr09A)
And then they have a very cool bonus disc, which basically is some of their best (Original) songs, but with an orchestra and only the lead vocals. Cool idea and something that would make a special edition worth it. Problem is, it is with this singer.
Last time I saw them live they were great, but I don't think I will be attending a show with this singer in the lead unfortunately. Hopefully others do find enjoyment in their latest release. I just can't fathom that band that is (almost) all about the voice(s) picks a singer like this, records several songs with him, and thinks "yeah, awesome, let's release this!"
/end of rant.
(for reference, this was the quality of their last release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjaawxsF14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gjaawxsF14)).
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I thought their cover of Battery was hilarious, and I don't really care for the original version. The gimmick didn't have any staying power for me, and the single you posted confirms that.
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That's different, but really not interesting IMO. Those two lead singers don't sound good and I'm not really into acapella.
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I never thought I'd enjoy a PM band, but these guys (Lor) are great and have many different genres and influences as well. I recommend everyone listen to the (entire) track Eidolon they have on their bandcamp:
https://halloflor.bandcamp.com/album/in-forgotten-sleep
Just seeing this post! :lol
This is one of my favorite releases of the last couple of years. I've been pimping this band since this was released. I submit it in pretty much every roulette I'm in. I think this album needs to be heard. So many styles incorporated.
After three long years it's finally here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here's the ALBUM COVER and the TRACKLIST of "Life Is Not Beautiful”! Artwork done by super talented Claudio Bergamin. His previous work includes Judas Priest, Accept and Battle Beast for example.
01 - The End Of The Fall
02 - No One Stands In My Way
03 - At The Break Of Dawn (Feat. Elize Ryd)
04 - The Last Sacrifice
05 - Through Your Falling Tears
06 - Unforgivable
07 - Punish You
08 - Life Is Not Beautiful
09 - Last One Falls
You can pre-order “Life Is Not Beautiful” from:
https://shop.afm-records.de/arion/
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Been spending some music listening time getting to know some ProgPower bands for next year that I am not familiar with and I've been listening to two power metal bands
Orden Ogan and Galneryus
really liking both so far. I've got Orden Ogan's Ravenhead and Galneryus' Resurrection and really enjoy both.
Destinations by Galneryus has really stuck out to me, such an awesome song. Any recommendations from these two bands?
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I am big fan of the double OO, all their albums are very good, but live they are a little lacking without the multi-tracked backing vocals.
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Orden Ogan's most recent album Gunmen is excellent. Definitely recommended.
My favourite Galneryus release is Angel of Salvation. Mainly on the strength of the title track alone.
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
They're basically Japanese Dragonforce. Completely over the top, relentless, cheesy power metal - and all the more awesome for it.
Angel of Salvation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckhrdoNvYJE) is my favourite of their songs. If you don't like this, then you won't like the band.
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
They're basically Japanese Dragonforce. Completely over the top, relentless, cheesy power metal - and all the more awesome for it.
Angel of Salvation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckhrdoNvYJE) is my favourite of their songs. If you don't like this, then you won't like the band.
Definitely got the Dragonforce feeling, but I felt they are not as bad. But otherwise yea, they are fairly ridiculous but still have some really awesome catchy vocal melodies. I thought some of the stuff I youtubed was a bit more over the top than the one album I have, but "dragonforce light" seems like a decent way to describe them.
Orden Ogan's most recent album Gunmen is excellent. Definitely recommended.
My favourite Galneryus release is Angel of Salvation. Mainly on the strength of the title track alone.
Thanks, I'm going to check these out
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
They're basically Japanese Dragonforce. Completely over the top, relentless, cheesy power metal - and all the more awesome for it.
Angel of Salvation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckhrdoNvYJE) is my favourite of their songs. If you don't like this, then you won't like the band.
Haha, not bad, but not really my thing anymore.
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
Paul's been pimping them since the horse and cart days. :)
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Galneryus is a band I've literally heard nothing from or know anything about.
Paul's been pimping them since the horse and cart days. :)
Haha. I think I would have liked them about 10-15 years ago, but I think my tastes have changed too much these days.
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Love Galneryus. Can’t listen to too much at once as it is very samey, but yeah, it puts a huge smile on my face because it’s so ridiculous :metal
Over the top widdly widdly guitar and keyboards.
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Never heard Herman Frank ever before until this came up randomly in my YT feed yesterday.
https://youtu.be/9uS0xhIKwAU
Yes I know it's pretty much power metal by the numbers, but I enjoyed it enough to check out the HF catalogue.
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I got the new battle beast before heading out to aruba and finally listening to it on the beach, I was not impressed with the singles and didnt expect to like this, but wow really am enjoying it. I love their 80s vibe, this is making me even more excited to see them again Saturday. I feel even the singles fit well within the album.
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Lords Of The Trident at Mad With Power Fest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb1hxJvXD5k
I love this band!
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If you don't mind some folk in your power metal, you PM lovers should definitively check out Elvenking and especially their latest album, "Reader of the Runes - Divination", the beginning of a sage in three chapters (and no, it's not as cheesy as Rhapsody ;D )
On YouTube you'll find the "singles", the catchy and easy Under the Sign of a Black Star (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9E3uANdF5I), the atmospheric video of Silverseal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXcKhv08G-k) and the fast and direct Divination (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL9i56jkH1E), but it's as a whole that the album shines, and so I suggest 50 minutes of listening to it all on Spotify (http://spotify:album:59RM9zGHbpEggkKqYVIl6g).
It's also a peculiar story because the whole album is just an introduction - the real story is still all to unfold, here the songs present 8 characters who, along with the titular Reader of the Runes, will bring the story forward but each song is just a point of view from the various characters.
Best songs among those who didn't get a video are the anthemic opener Heathen Divine, The Misfortune of Virtue, the very aggressive Malefica Doctine and of course the epic title track, Reader of the Runes - Book I, which lasts 10 minutes and has a bombastic and wonderful chorus.
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Hevisaurus – 100 (Official Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKImPsjpGjQ)
Don't ask because I don't know the answer! :lol
Featured musicians:
Marco Hietala / Nightwish
Noora Louhimo/ Battle Beast
Timo Kotipelto / Stratovarius
Samy Elbanna / Lost Society
Pasi Rantanen / Thunderstone
Olavi Tikka / Milestones
Tony Kakko / Sonata Arctica
Mikko Kotamäki / Swallow the Sun
Netta Laurenne / Smackbound
Mikael Salo / Thy Row, Metal De Facto
Esa Holopainen / Amorphis
Teemu Mäntysaari / Wintersun, Smackbound
Jens Johansson / Stratovarius, Rainbow
Daniel Freyberg / Children of Bodom
Markus Vanhala / Omnium Gatherum, Insomnium
Kiko Loureiro / Megadeth
Matias Kupiainen / Stratovarius
Iivo Kaipainen & Arttu Vauhkonen / Arion
Kai Hansen / Gamma Ray, Unisonic
Tim Hansen / Induction
Joona Björkroth / Battle Beast, Brymir
Henrik Klingenberg / Sonata Arctica
Niko Tyrväinen / Radio Rock winner
Nino Laurenne / Thunderstone
Vili Itäpelto / Smackbound, Tracedawn
Anton Kabanen / Beast In Black
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That's fucking awesome :lol
I'll see what I can do about turfing The Wiggles in these parts and replacing them with Hevisaurus :metal
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That's silly and pretty impressive at once. Mighty guest list and if the singer would stop the annoying talking you would have a pretty good song too.
Where was children music like this when I grew up? :D
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Damn Teemus solo kills! :metal
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I can't believe I sat through the whole thing.
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Is this really supposed to be Children's music? I'm not sure I understand it. Looks like a joke type of song to me, but then again I don't know Finnish and like I said, don't understand it. It's not very good music IMO, but that guest list is superb. If it is meant for children, then I say rock on though. The solo part was cool just to see everyone do something from their own private spot.
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:lol
It seems to be an actual heavy metal band for kids and this is apparently their 100th song. A youtube search tought me the band has quite a lot of (well-viewed) clips and they are quite obviously aimed at kids.
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Is this really supposed to be Children's music? I'm not sure I understand it. Looks like a joke type of song to me, but then again I don't know Finnish and like I said, don't understand it. It's not very good music IMO, but that guest list is superb. If it is meant for children, then I say rock on though. The solo part was cool just to see everyone do something from their own private spot.
Seems like a pisstake metal version of a kids band to me.
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I'm hooked on Brothers of Metal atm, they're basically the Swedish version of Manowar. They just know how to write good and catchy choruses and i'm a sucker for that, I might need help.
I mean listen to these choruses:
Sleipnir (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnLV74iVV0)
To the Skies and Beyond (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kl6zsBeXM)
Brothers Unite (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIWAC0Dw6JE)
Yggdrasil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GicPBWG5EM)
Man I think my beard has grown atleast a couple inches extra since I started listen to them.
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I love them! almost ashamed of how much I do, given the total and utter cheesefest they are :D
But hey, from time to time you can go to McDonald as well. If the hamburger is good, and it's not being sold as art cousine, is it so bad to enjoy an hamburger from time to time?
Brothers of Metal are so over the top and they surely know it, but if over the top cheese is what they sell, I'm gladly buying since it's so cool. Yggdrasil is a legit great song and the first album is chock full of bombastic songs that Manowar WISH they would still be able to write.
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Glad i'm not the only one. :laugh:
They surely are over the top but I get the feeling they know it from looking at their music videos. :lol
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If they ditched the female singer they'd be better. Don't have a thing against female singers, just doesn't work for this band and I don't understand why the band is named that way when there is literally a female frontwoman
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Because Siblings of Metal is a silly name for a band :D and come on, the female vocals are what differentiate this band!
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Because Siblings of Metal is a silly name for a band :D and come on, the female vocals are what differentiate this band!
They are? 'cause when I first heard this group last year I thought it was another painfully generic power metal group. Diff'rent strokes but I'll take your praise and revisit this record later in full, because I turned it off after a couple tracks this morning.
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I couldn't get through one song, probably didn't give it a chance but the vocals are not my thing
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It's funny because to me the songs could be sung with a male voice and I still would dig the choruses. It really doesn't matter to me one bit. Alot of the parts she sings are high pitched which comes pretty natural for female vocalists.
This band has nothing unique about them however I really dig the choruses and I think they have a good knowledge about the bond between harmony and melody.
Sidenote: Listening to Power Metal again which I haven't done much in recent times I had to put on some Lost Horizon, man I miss that band and especially Daniel Heiman's vocals. :'( Holy hell are those two albums they put out just amazing and still are.
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Sidenote: Listening to Power Metal again which I haven't done much in recent times I had to put on some Lost Horizon, man I miss that band and especially Daniel Heiman's vocals. :'( Holy hell are those two albums they put out just amazing and still are.
He resurfaced in a power metal band, Dimhav!
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Sidenote: Listening to Power Metal again which I haven't done much in recent times I had to put on some Lost Horizon, man I miss that band and especially Daniel Heiman's vocals. :'( Holy hell are those two albums they put out just amazing and still are.
He resurfaced in a power metal band, Dimhav!
Wow thx for the notice, didn't know that.
Had a listen, interesting stuff. Great his back tho! :tup
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Yeah, nothing that compares to Lost Horizon, but cool to hear him kicking ass. I liked bits and pieces of wherever he showed up over the years.
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Sidenote: Listening to Power Metal again which I haven't done much in recent times I had to put on some Lost Horizon, man I miss that band and especially Daniel Heiman's vocals. :'( Holy hell are those two albums they put out just amazing and still are.
He resurfaced in a power metal band, Dimhav!
That album was a very nice discovery last year!
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I'm hooked on Brothers of Metal atm, they're basically the Swedish version of Manowar. They just know how to write good and catchy choruses and i'm a sucker for that, I might need help.
I mean listen to these choruses:
Sleipnir (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnLV74iVV0)
To the Skies and Beyond (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-kl6zsBeXM)
Brothers Unite (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIWAC0Dw6JE)
Yggdrasil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GicPBWG5EM)
Man I think my beard has grown atleast a couple inches extra since I started listen to them.
I love their debut a whole lot. Was searching for the Thor Ragnarock soundtrack and stumbled upon Prophecy of Ragnarock (the song) back in 2018 (before the rerelease by their new label), have been hooked on it since. Especially the female singer sounds amazing.
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Not entirely sure Dynazty is power metal, maybe more melodic metal than power but they've got some power in them so I'll put this here...
their new album The Dark Delight is pretty solid, kind of standard Dynazty but it's still good and man do I really love Nils' vocals. So happy he is in Amaranthe too, but he shines more here being the sole singer.
Anyway, I was bored and made a lyric video of their song Apex (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2uRyUaLjE) :metal :metal
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Yeah, the new Dynazty is freaking great. :metal
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My initial thoughts are I like Firesign better, but its tough, both good albums from beginning to end. Titanic Mass I only heard a couple times so I cant compare.
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I absolutely love the last 3 or 4 Dynazty records. :metal :metal
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I absolutely love the last 3 or 4 Dynazty records. :metal :metal
They're all really enjoyable. And by enjoyable, I also mean "samey".
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The only one that really stuck with me is Renatus. That's a great record. Solid band but as Chad said it's all the same thing over and over. I do remember a song released from the new one with slightly a little more variety so I'll try and get around to checking it out.
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I checked out the new one but got bored in the middle and turned it off.
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I absolutely love the last 3 or 4 Dynazty records. :metal :metal
They're all really enjoyable. And by enjoyable, I also mean "samey".
Yea, definitely samey. Nils is an awesome singer though, kind of makes the samey not so bad and more tolerable since I love his vocals. But yea, that samey will hold this band back
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I disagree - if by samey, y'all mean great catchy huge hooks, fun memorable solos and catchy beats, sign my ass up for more of the same!
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I disagree - if by samey, y'all mean great catchy huge hooks, fun memorable solos and catchy beats, sign my ass up for more of the same!
.... says the guy who dislikes prog-metal concept albums because they're "all the same".
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No, I dislike prog metal concept albums because they're all the same... fucking boring pretentious garbage. :biggrin:
Also you like Threshold, the most vanilla thing since Breyer's. :lol
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Bumping this thread....
The new Beast in Black album, Dark Connection, is awesome power metal :metal :metal
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First thread I clicked on today, saw Katt's post and thought he returned and immediately complained about prog metal concept albums. I was like yeah, that sure tracks :lol
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First thread I clicked on today, saw Katt's post and thought he returned and immediately complained about prog metal concept albums. I was like yeah, that sure tracks :lol
haha
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https://youtu.be/DxM6gD-NUBY
New Rhapsody of Fire. I dunno who the fuck any of these guys are a d while I don't dig the genre much anymore, this was pretty damn cool.
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The new Beast in Black album, Dark Connection, is awesome power metal :metal :metal
That album cover is certainly something.... ;D
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https://youtu.be/DxM6gD-NUBY
New Rhapsody of Fire. I dunno who the fuck any of these guys are a d while I don't dig the genre much anymore, this was pretty damn cool.
No Luca and no Fabio make me no interested. Alex is the only thing of this that resembles Rhapsody. This wasn't bad, but it's still a hard pass.
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It is basically a different band, but I think it is a really good one. They have been making bangers and I enjoy the rerecordings a lot as well.
And I doubt Luca is done making (good) Rhapsody records, which he did with Turilli's Rhapsody and Turilli / Lione Rhapsody.
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https://youtu.be/DxM6gD-NUBY
New Rhapsody of Fire. I dunno who the fuck any of these guys are a d while I don't dig the genre much anymore, this was pretty damn cool.
No Luca and no Fabio make me no interested. Alex is the only thing of this that resembles Rhapsody. This wasn't bad, but it's still a hard pass.
I tried - and I love Dawn of Veeectoreee - but I just couldn’t.
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The new Beast in Black album, Dark Connection, is awesome power metal :metal :metal
That album cover is certainly something.... ;D
Yup! :lol
Listened to this today, and the entire album is such a cheesefest. :lol But I'm diggin' it all the same! :tup
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https://youtu.be/DxM6gD-NUBY
New Rhapsody of Fire. I dunno who the fuck any of these guys are a d while I don't dig the genre much anymore, this was pretty damn cool.
I actually keep coming back to this tune. I love it.
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https://youtu.be/DxM6gD-NUBY
New Rhapsody of Fire. I dunno who the fuck any of these guys are a d while I don't dig the genre much anymore, this was pretty damn cool.
I actually keep coming back to this tune. I love it.
Actually a pretty good tune, I love the setting though probably a bitch getting all the gear in place. :lol
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The new Beast in Black album, Dark Connection, is awesome power metal :metal :metal
That album cover is certainly something.... ;D
Yup! :lol
Listened to this today, and the entire album is such a cheesefest. :lol But I'm diggin' it all the same! :tup
This is definitely NSFW but the music video for the song Hardcore.... is certainly something lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iu2YjG88AQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iu2YjG88AQ) and yhup, cheesefest but so damn fun and catchy.
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Holy fuck. How did that make it on to YT?!?!
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Holy fuck. How did that make it on to YT?!?!
:rollin
I had to click OK to watch it due to graphic nature. I guess that's how? Also funny because it has significantly less views so you know it's not something showing up for people due to that.
Definitely a risky business decision. Not entirely sure what to personally think although here I am sharing it so it must have worked.
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Not entirely sure what to personally think although here I am sharing it so it must have worked.
:lol
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me and my friends always die laughing while listening to the over-the-top intro guitar solo on hammerfall's stone cold. crimson thunder is decent in my book tho.
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me and my friends always die laughing while listening to the over-the-top intro guitar solo on hammerfall's stone cold. crimson thunder is decent in my book tho.
Glory to the Brave is such an outstanding power metal classic
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I’d put Hammerfall’s top tunes against anyone’s.
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I’d put Hammerfall’s top tunes against anyone’s.
Agree. The first three of their albums are incredible.
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I’d put Hammerfall’s top tunes against anyone’s.
Agree. The first three of their albums are incredible.
Legacy Of Kings is my go to album of theirs. Made my Top 50.
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I’d put Hammerfall’s top tunes against anyone’s.
Agree. The first three of their albums are incredible.
Legacy Of Kings is my go to album of theirs. Made my Top 50.
Power metal perfection.
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me and my friends always die laughing while listening to the over-the-top intro guitar solo on hammerfall's stone cold. crimson thunder is decent in my book tho.
Haven't heard it for a while so I had to have a listen. Yea it's a bit over the top :lol but it's a cool solo nevertheless.
I’d put Hammerfall’s top tunes against anyone’s.
Agree. The first three of their albums are incredible.
Legacy Of Kings is my go to album of theirs. Made my Top 50.
Power metal perfection.
:heart
I might have mentioned it before but Dreamland is such a underrated song, both the verse and chorus is killer.
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The chorus to Dreamland is ridiculous. In a good way.
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You see, Hammerfall are everything I dislike n power metal all rolled into one.
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I'm still bummed that covid hit and I couldn't see Hammerfall in a tiny sports bar in Wisconsin. :censored
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You see, Hammerfall are everything I dislike n power metal all rolled into one.
You mean a mashup of Helloween-Dio-Accept-Saxon & Dokken all rolled up into one?
Yeah, I can see how you'd hate that. :huh:
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If anything, if we're speaking purely power metal, Hammerfall are one from the genre that I can actually take seriously. They also have the chops and the distinct sound to back it up. They slipped off a lot lately but the last one was a great return to form.
You see, Hammerfall are everything I dislike n power metal all rolled into one.
You mean a mashup of Helloween-Dio-Accept-Saxon & Dokken all rolled up into one?
Yeah, I can see how you'd hate that. :huh:
The first three albums, even four albums have a wonderful blend of classic and modern styles.
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I have never listened to a Hammerfall album, but have seen them 3 times now and they have always been pretty solid. But to me, they were the average classic power metal. Which I've never really got into, but I dont dislike. They put on a good live show.
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If anything, if we're speaking purely power metal, Hammerfall are one from the genre that I can actually take seriously. They also have the chops and the distinct sound to back it up. They slipped off a lot lately but the last one was a great return to form.
You see, Hammerfall are everything I dislike n power metal all rolled into one.
You mean a mashup of Helloween-Dio-Accept-Saxon & Dokken all rolled up into one?
Yeah, I can see how you'd hate that. :huh:
The first three albums, even four albums have a wonderful blend of classic and modern styles.
I'd take their first six albums, up through Threshold. Amazing stuff. I mean, there's some corny things here and there, but those albums are excellent and I love them.
I have never listened to a Hammerfall album, but have seen them 3 times now and they have always been pretty solid. But to me, they were the average classic power metal. Which I've never really got into, but I dont dislike. They put on a good live show.
They always hit me as a classic 80's power metal cover band that did originals. They have that sound down big time. I don't think it's any coincidence that once Hammerfall broke through, bands like Saxon, Accept, heck, even Judas Priest really upped their game and enjoyed a renaissance of sorts.
As Kade said, they've fallen off a bit, but as they lost Stefan Elmgren and then Magnus Rosen, I feel like their direction shifted a bit.
Still, Joacim Cans is one of the best singers out there and I really don't think he gets his due.
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Stefan was huge for them, he indeed was a massive loss, I loved his playing.
One album in there I also loved was Infected, some cool shit on that one.
I'll give you Chapter V, that was okay. I think I could just start to see the decline in their output which was disappointing.
Jociam has a wonderful tone and timbre to his voice. Very distinct and pleasing, always loved him. Cool performer too.
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Speaking of Hammerfall, was able to knock off work a couple hours early and went to the store and managed to pick up the new Renegade 2.0 2CD/DVD! :metal
Can't wait to see how this remix sounds.
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https://bravewords.com/news/hammerfall-to-release-hammer-of-dawn-album-in-february-title-track-music-video-streaming
I don't hate it. I'll definitely be getting it.
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https://bravewords.com/news/hammerfall-to-release-hammer-of-dawn-album-in-february-title-track-music-video-streaming
I don't hate it. I'll definitely be getting it.
Yeah, it's quite strong. It sounds nice and beefy too. I'll be buying this too.
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Jaocim Cans still sounds amazing.
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You know exactly who you are listening to as soon as you hear his voice.
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Yea Firewind does a great job on Maniac. For me ReinXeed does some fun covers, I think Viva Forever could easily been a Power Metal tune from the start, ok maybe with slightly diffrent lyrics. :lol The same goes with Dragonforce and Ring Of Fire. DF have the upper edge on the production though.
I don't remember if I listened to this before, or even commented on this thread. But, I was browsing around for Spice Girls covers and stumbled upon this and holy crap. It's amazing how fitting the lyrics actually are for a Power Metal song. :lol And I find that hilarious and fantastic for me because I really enjoy Power Metal and also enjoy the Spice Girls. :yarr
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Came across this 2022 release:
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Power Paladin - "With the Magic of Windfyre Steel" (how's that for a title? :biggrin:)
Power metal from Iceland. It's a little too over the top at times for me to really like it, but it was a fun listen, somewhere in between Helloween and Iron Maiden...maybe some old Rhapsody too.
Speaking of which - a couple of quibbles: the guitar melody at the very beginning of the opener is quite literally lifted from the instrumental section of Sign of the Cross...and the chorus melody around 1:40 in "Into the Forbidden Forest" sounds a lot like Twilight of the Gods (if I'm getting this right...). Maybe it's a tribute of sorts? ;)
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I dropped the needle on that a week or so ago. I didn't report it, because I found it a little Dragonforcey.
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Rather forgettable but the singer rocks. And admittedly I had never heard a power metal song about a Spiderman villain until now...
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
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I dropped the needle on that a week or so ago. I didn't report it, because I found it a little Dragonforcey.
I am not super-familiar with Dragonforce, but based on what I heard in passing, yeah, I can see that ;D
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
First song is about Kraven the Hunter! :lol
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
First song is about Kraven the Hunter! :lol
And I'm supposed to know who the hell that is?? :lol
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
First song is about Kraven the Hunter! :lol
And I'm supposed to know who the hell that is?? :lol
Half Kramer, half raven.
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
First song is about Kraven the Hunter! :lol
And I'm supposed to know who the hell that is?? :lol
Half Kramer, half raven.
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TAC:
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:lol
Don't let Kingshmegland see that! :lol
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I'm not even gonna ask. :lol
First song is about Kraven the Hunter! :lol
And I'm supposed to know who the hell that is?? :lol
Half Kramer, half raven.
(https://c.tenor.com/NFoT7WIuZwUAAAAM/turkey-turkey-neck.gif)
Haha, outstanding!
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:rollin
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Goldenhall - Collide
This is a bit of a random discovery, but it's pretty good power metal from Rhode Island. Came out in 2020. Sounds kinda different right off the bat because the singer is a baritone, which makes the whole thing a little extra epic. The album is not on streaming platforms (Amazon, Spotify), but is on Bandcamp and on the band's YT channel. Check out "Into the Infinite" - some melodic death metal influences too (although there's only clean vocals here)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WidqnBF8OGE
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HAMMERFALL - Brotherhood (Official Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hNSbRhAZlA&ab_channel=NapalmRecords)
Classic Hammerfall, I like it! Fun seeing their kids rocking out at the end.
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HAMMERFALL - Brotherhood (Official Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hNSbRhAZlA&ab_channel=NapalmRecords)
Classic Hammerfall, I like it! Fun seeing their kids rocking out at the end.
That's a great tune. I got the album delivered last week. The album has a big Renegade vibe to it.
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Another album I've had no time to try and pick up.
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HAMMERFALL - Brotherhood (Official Video) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hNSbRhAZlA&ab_channel=NapalmRecords)
Classic Hammerfall, I like it! Fun seeing their kids rocking out at the end.
Solid song, but not sure an album I will check out. I think they are a solid band, seen them a few times, but just not a band I've ever been able to really enjoy an album or significant listening time. This just sounds like them so doesn't move the needle much personally.