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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: jingle.boy on December 13, 2013, 05:53:46 AM
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Kinda surprised that we don't have one yet. Well, just saw this on their FB feed this morning.
Frontiers Records is excited to announce the release of VANDEN PLAS new concept album entitled "Chronicles of the Immortals -- Netherworld (Path 1)" on February 21st in Europe and February 24th in North America.
"Chronicles of the Immortals -- Netherworld" will include the following tracks:
VISION 1ne
VISION 2wo * THE BLACK KNIGHT *
VISION 3hree * GODMAKER *
VISION 4our * MISERY AFFECTION PRELUDE*
VISION 5ive * A GHOSTS REQUIEM *
VISION 6ix * NEW VAMPYRE *
VISION 7ven * THE KING AND THE CHILDREN OF LOST WORLD *
VISION 8ight * MISERY AFFECTION *
VISION 9ine * SOUL ALLIANCE *
Vision 10n * INSIDE *
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtPxTvF-NsM
Nice trailer.... they had me at "exceptional concept album"! :panicattack:
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The same guy that got me in to DT got me in to VP about 10 years ago. Gave me Beyond Daylight. Was instantly hooked. Absolutely love everything about this band. Andy has such a distinct voice, it's the kind that you instantly know who you're listening to. I'd love to see Tobi or Arjen pick him up for a project.
I know there are a few fans of them around here. Report in. Discuss.
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That has to be one of the best and most epic albums trailers ever. Sounds absolutely perfect and seems like it's picked up right where Seraphic Clockwork left off, which was an insanely amazing album.
This band is very underrated, they got chops and the songs, can't wait for this album.
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I've followed them since the beginning (mid 90's) but for me they almost always fall short. The only album I haven't listened to (I do have it) is Seraphic Clockwork.
To me they don't have the songwriting chops to compete in the same space as DT - each album has one or two tracks I really like but I always find my attention drifting and thinking they're trying to be something they're not. I feel they're at their best when they focus more on melodic riff based metal and less on trying to be grandiose .
So to this day the only album that gets very high marks from me is the first - Colour Temple - ripping melodic metal , after which I think they tried a bit to hard to move into the realm of DT (and failed). I remember listening to Rainmaker (off The God Thing) for the first time - wicked track- and being glad they'd gone in that direction but over the rest of that album and on coming albums they very rarely nailed it like that IMHO. Colour Temple though barely has a weak track.
For some reason I keep buying their stuff in the hope they'll impress me again for more than one or two tracks. I'll have to find Seraphic Clockwork
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Yeah, I would put them somewhere right on the edge of being a GREAT melodic/metal act, but an above-average progressive/metal band. I love all their albums, maybe because of that - they don't try to get too flashy/technical, even thought they probably could. You've got the bands like DT, SX, Ayreon, Haken etc... that show off their technical prowess at every chance. Then there are bands like VP, Evergrey, Angra, Kamelot that can, but (by and large) restrain themselves.
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the trailer tells me the band should not be in front of the camera.....at all.
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I love this band. One of the few remaining bands I buy a physical disc from whenever they release something. I agree that they're hugely underrated.
In fact, I think their last album was better than anything Dream Theater has released in 10 years.
Yeah, I went there. :corn
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the trailer tells me the band should not be in front of the camera.....at all.
:lol Yeah, the video was a bit iffy - aside from the music.
Really looking forward to this though, I love these guys. Shame they're not more well-known. Haven't listened to them for a while actually, I'll have to give their discography a spin soon :metal
The release date seems to have changed already though - they posted February 14th on their FB page a week or 2 back, but now it's the 21st :sad:
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It's funny this thread appeared. The other day when I got to work half asleep, one of my co-workers who's a Dream Theater fan walked by and said "VANDENPLAS". I didn't know what the fuck he was saying, but then he's like, "have you heard of them?" A few seconds later after some blank staring, it finally dawned on me that he wasn't yelling at me in German, and was like, "oh yeah, Vanden Plas, yeah I listened to Christ 0 years ago, but it was pretty much background music, and I didn't think much of it".
The next day I gave the album a proper listen and while it certainly wasn't bad, it wasn't incredibaly gripping either. It might take a few more listens. We'll see. I remember when Christ 0 and 10,000 Days were the big craze when I first joined DT.net.
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Well, the cover art looks really cool. I may pick it up just for that.
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Yes superb underrated band, who have been delivering quality album after album.
Perhaps the last remaining prog metal band that I am actually interested in these days.
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Well, the cover art looks really cool. I may pick it up just for that.
You would solely buy an album just for the cover?
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...Maybe. :lol
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wow, okay.
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the trailer tells me the band should not be in front of the camera.....at all.
I really love Vanden Plas a lot, but, um, yeah. They appear to have great faces for radio. :P
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Sounds like a step in the right direction. I loved Christ.0 but felt let down by seraphic clockwork. Just could not get into it.
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I bought Far Off Grace years ago and liked it. Nothing really grabbed me since and I haven't listened to them in years. The newie sounds good. Looks like I'm going to have to relisten. They just slipped me by a bit I guess.
Agree with Kade that Andy has a great voice. Very distinct.
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New song - Vision 3hree "Godmaker" (https://youtu.be/bwKckeSE2ug)
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Nice. But these guys were not built for camera. Stick to music.
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Sounds pretty damn good!
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I'm a big Vanden Plas fan. I think I started with Christ.O and then picked up most of their back catalog of studio albums. I'm excited for the upcoming album.
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:metal
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Man these guys suck in front of the camera.
Is it just me, or does Andy look pretty much the same playing that character? :lol
Not the catchiest tune to put out IMO, but I'm liking it. Sounds like a good continuation of Clockwork.
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I was on Amazon earlier and noticed they were suggesting the album to me. This page has 30second previews of each song:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HGLO7NC (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00HGLO7NC)
Also, here's a review they linked to on their FB: https://www.ladyobscure.com/albums/vanden-plas-chronicles-of-the-immortals-netherworld/ (https://www.ladyobscure.com/albums/vanden-plas-chronicles-of-the-immortals-netherworld/)
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^ Yeah... read that review this morning. :tup Can't remember if Progradar is a member here too. RJ?
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No, he isn't. But he's a great reviewer and a hell of a nice guy.
And I'll back up every word of that review.
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Got mine pre-ordered already, one of the very few remaining prog metal bands that hold any interest for me.
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Progradar's review is amazing...
7th track on the album is the best prog piece I've heard recently... downright sick!
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Listened to this album this morning and can't stop listening now, must be a fourth or fifth spin already. It's just that amazing. Must buy for every fan.
A bit sad part two is still a year away. :D
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It's out already or has it leaked?
Amazon UK is is February 24th release date?
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Nope, it's not out, nor it has been leaked as far as I know, I just have an access to a promo.
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Hi guys, I am the aforementioned Progradar and am still digging this album mightily, my recommendation would be to buy it and see what all the, definitely warranted, fuss is all about!!(https://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y273/F600Imola/VANDENPLAScoverHI_zps870b400a.jpg)
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:tup :tup
One of my more highly anticipated releases this year. It will be a release day purchase for sure.
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Heard it three times already today and majestic, massive, melodic, heavy, progressive are just some of the words that immediately spring to mind. Gonna take some CD to beat this as my Prog metal album of 2014.
The production is HUGE and puts DT's last CD and the muddy LALP to utter shame in that respect (and in others too!!).
HIGHLY recommended and best listened to with quality earphones too.
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I had my first listen earlier and nothing really grabbed me right away, but that doesn't surprise me - it's normally the case for me with most albums, I'll need plenty of listens to get to grips with it.
I was pleased they toned down the track lengths a bit (not something I usually say about prog-metal), as I felt a few of the songs on the previous album went on for too long. It does sound great sonically too, on first listen. VP and Haken, among others, have shown what you can do with a limited budget and resources. Wish DT would take a page out of their books.
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Just watched the trailer for the first time. Overture 1927 anyone?
I'll be getting this soon, as VP's last two albums are masterpieces.
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It's out already or has it leaked?
Amazon UK is is February 24th release date?
Its up on spotify. Listening now.
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An album from a band that has supported DT, is Prog Metal like DT and is getting rave reviews and "album of the month" accolades on NUMEROUS websites all over the World, yet no-one has any opinions or wants to discuss it in here. Meanwhile we have 80 odd pages of people having orgasms over that pretentious, full of himself, and self proclaimed DT "disliker", Steven Wilson!!!.........
Still, I guess everyone is different, but I just don't understand it.
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. Meanwhile we have 80 odd pages of people having orgasms over that pretentious, full of himself, and self proclaimed DT "disliker", Steven Wilson!!!.........
No kidding!
I was just released today here in the States. If I can find a store that has it tomorrow, I'll pick it up.
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An album from a band that has supported DT, is Prog Metal like DT and is getting rave reviews and "album of the month" accolades on NUMEROUS websites all over the World, yet no-one has any opinions or wants to discuss it in here. Meanwhile we have 80 odd pages of people having orgasms over that pretentious, full of himself, and self proclaimed DT "disliker", Steven Wilson!!!.........
Still, I guess everyone is different, but I just don't understand it.
Because Steven Wilson makes good music. It's okay if you don't like him, but spewing that kind of garbage won't get you very far.
And besides, what does it even matter if SW doesn't like DT? Do you give all artists you listen to the "DT test", and if they don't like DT, you just have to stop listening to them?
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I give people the DT test - if they don't like DT I stop listening to them . ;D
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metrojam, the album has only just come out, many people myself included still don't have the album.
Nor have we downloaded an illegal copy.
I'm sure once we have it, there will be discussion.
You also have to remember that Vanden Plas are a very well unknown to the masses band.
While Mr. Pretentious has a far bigger following through Porcupine Tree and his various other bands/projects.
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Just had my first listen to the new Vanden Plas and I'm liking it. As I've noted before I don't think they've matched their debut (which was more straight out metal and less grandiose/proggy) - to me they were always too short of good ideas to be doing full prog albums. The first proper song on their 2nd album (Rainmaker) was/is amazing but from that album on I've always made liberal use of the Skip button............with the qualification that I haven't as yet sat down and listened properly to Seraphic Clockwork.
Anyway - I listened to this new album from start to finish no worries ..............rare for me with a new release these days. I feel that they have spread themselves less thin (there's plenty of nice interludes where normally there might be a filler song). I think they've been much smarter with pacing in that respect and the quality across the album is higher as a result.
They'll never be in DT's league in my eyes (in prog metal) but this album is a ripper . It's an album that needs to be listened to as a whole (due to the frequent interludes/segues) and I'm looking forward to a second listen...I wasn't expecting to like it this much tbh as I'd become a bit disillusioned after loving the debut so much and being consistently underwhelmed aside from a few tracks on each album. Well done to the band - the music lives up to the cover art :)
My tentative rating : 92% which must be the first new release >75% in a while (aside from DT12)
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Yes I love Colour Temple, was always my fave VP album and I bought the Japanese version
many years ago with the 2 killer bonus tracks, Fire and Days Of Thunder.
It has just enough prog bit, mixed with some killer melodic rock melodies and outstanding production and sound for a debut album from 1997.
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An album from a band that has supported DT, is Prog Metal like DT and is getting rave reviews and "album of the month" accolades on NUMEROUS websites all over the World, yet no-one has any opinions or wants to discuss it in here. Meanwhile we have 80 odd pages of people having orgasms over that pretentious, full of himself, and self proclaimed DT "disliker", Steven Wilson!!!.........
Still, I guess everyone is different, but I just don't understand it.
I don't think this is necessary.
Yes I love Colour Temple, was always my fave VP album and I bought the Japanese version
many years ago with the 2 killer bonus tracks, Fire and Days Of Thunder.
It has just enough prog bit, mixed with some killer melodic rock melodies and outstanding production and sound for a debut album from 1997.
You know, I think the debut might be the only VP album I DON'T have, besides this new one.
Brent, Clockwork is awesome, definitely give it a listen.
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Just got through my first listen of Netherworld, and ...
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:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
There aren't enough superlatives in the English language to describe how I feel about what I just listened to..
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OK, TAC has officially purchased his first Vanden Plas album. It is downloading right now.
I got a copy of Christ O a few years back, and I don't remember it doing anything for me.
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Christ 0 took 8 years and 3 listens to click for me. :neverusethis:
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Christ 0 is definitely one of their weakest IMO. But maybe I need to revisit it too.
I love that Super Troupers gif.
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I think this album will take multiple listens, but in a good way. I had it on yesterday doing stuff around the house, but I did get a nice head phone listen in last night. It reminded me of my first listen to Beyond The Bridge.
The thought I had while listening was this: To me, they are like a modern day Savatage. Now, you guys know that I am NOT a Savatage fan by any stretch. But one thing that I have always commended them for was their vision and their song writing. IMO, They just seemed to never fully execute, like they just didn't have the chops to pull it off.
Vanden Plas HAS the chops and they do a great job. I would like Gutter Ballet and Streets a LOT more if Vanden Plas rerecorded them.
Anyway, that was what I was thinking. In the coming year, I will definitely be getting the VP discog, though I probably have to wait until Easter to get started.
Has the lineup remained stable throughout their career? Have they always had this singer? He is excellent.
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Savatage.......... just didn't have the chops to pull it off.
Vanden Plas HAS the chops .
(https://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/4614603/mcenroe-you-cannot-be-serious-o.gif)
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B, that's funny. I can't hear it, but I've seen the clip many times. I know I'm in the minority (the only one :D) on Savatage.
Next to Faster Pussycat, they were literally the worst band I've seen live.
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OK.............that's it!! . Faster Pussycat and Savatage in the same paragraph.
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:)
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I saw them on Dec 28, 1987. Dio/Megadeth/Savatage :metal :metal
Anyway, Jon Oliva comes out in this long purple cape, roaming the stage and screaming. He looked like a possessed Barny!
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:D - yes Jon was rather wild at that time (and not just that time)
Assuming they all had their records out that'd be Peace Sells/Dream Evil and Hall of the Mountain King tour............wow. :tup
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Has the lineup remained stable throughout their career? Have they always had this singer? He is excellent.
Not sure about the entire band, but I do believe that Andy Kuntz has been the lead singer from the get go. He has a very distinctive voice... one of the things I really love about VP.
Edit... quick check of wiki confirms it's been a 100% stable lineup.
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:D - yes Jon was rather wild at that time (and not just that time)
Assuming they all had their records out that'd be Peace Sells/Dream Evil and Hall of the Mountain King tour............wow. :tup
It was the first night of Dio's Dream Evil tour in Providence, and for Megadeth, it was a month before SFSGSW came out, so Megadeth had the Beehler/Young lineup and previewed In My Darkest Hour, Liar, Hook In Mouth, and Anarchy.
Megadeth was freaking awesome. It was the night I truly became a Megadeth fan. I had seen them on the Peace Sells tour previous to that as well.
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Edit... quick check of wiki confirms it's been a 100% stable lineup.
That impresses me. I will be following up with them.
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I've had two listens to the new album so far. Need more time with it to rate it, but my initial impression is that it starts out a bit weak but improves further in.
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I've had two listens to the new album so far. Need more time with it to rate it, but my initial impression is that it starts out a bit weak but improves further in.
I'm on 25-30 listens (not that it matters, tastes are different of course), and I think the album starts strong, then loses steam a bit, and then picks up and ends on a very strong note. The only tracks I'm not crazy about are 5 and 7, and since everyone on FB seem to like the latter, I hope it grows on me with time.
Misery Affection -> Soul Alliance -> Inside is a mindblowing sequence for the ending, can't get enough of these three.
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I haven't had it long enough to be familiar with the track names yet. I pre-ordered the CD on Amazon and on release day they emailed me a link to download the digital version. I've only had it for two days. My opinion of it will likely change over time. That's what happened with Christ0 and TSC.
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That is one of the most impressive things about VP, that they have had the same members since inception. I like that.
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Yeah this year is the 20th anniversary of the debut album.
Really looking forward to getting the new album in post this week.
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Finally got the CD today, and wow it is stunning.
Everything about it is just so good and classy.
It's everything that DT are not anymore, these guys should be stars.
But I'll settle for another quality release and another.
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Finally got the CD today, and wow it is stunning.
Everything about it is just so good and classy.
It's everything that DT are not anymore, these guys should be stars.
But I'll settle for another quality release and another.
Do you order online, or does your local stores stock these kind of albums? (You're in Melbourne, right?)
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Ooh those are fighting words mate ;D
I'm in Sydney, hence me mentioning Utopia Records a fair bit, even though they don't have the new VP or any Vanden Plas titles in stock!
No I bought it from Amazon UK, I get a fair bit from them, mostly stuff that Utopia don't have or titles that are ridiculous prices here.
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Sorry man, forgot all about our Utopia discussion. :facepalm:
I've always used WOWHD https://www.wowhd.com.au/ but their delivery times are usually pretty shit. I should look into Amazon more. Are their delivery times acceptable?
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Depends on your definition of acceptable.
I've had stuff on less than 4 days, but the normal would be around 5-7 working days.
The big bonus for us in OZ, is that we do not pay UK sales tax, so the prices are less 20% or in other words free shipping :)
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5-7 days is fine with me. WOWHD are like 10 business days, sometimes longer.
You have me interested with Amazon UK, definitely gonna check it out.
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Listened to the album twice and it's sounding good. Needs quite a few spins though, but sounding great.
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I listened to it again last weekend and I felt that the second half was noticeably stronger than the first this time around. I rated it 87% so I suppose that says enough.
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I gotta be honest, this album is quite tough to get into. I like what I'm hearing but it just hasn't clicked yet.
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Man, for some reason I'm really loving VP at the moment. I think they just clicked with me that little bit more. I never really realized how incredible Christ 0 is. I pulled it out after not really listening to it for years, but have been spinning it repeatedly in my car and it's amazing. Killer production, amazing guitar tones and the songs are top notch. It could be on its way to being my fav VP disc.
Gonna revisit the new one next.
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Gonna revisit the new one next.
Do it! Do it! Do it!. Still my AOTY at this point. Though I haven't listened to it recently... these damned discog threads, and Brent's top 50 are dominating my listening habits! :getoffmylawn: :lol
VP has done no wrong in my ears. Everything is 4 and 5 star material.
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Gonna revisit the new one next.
Do it! Do it! Do it!. Still my AOTY at this point. Though I haven't listened to it recently... these damned discog threads, and Brent's top 50 are dominating my listening habits! :getoffmylawn: :lol
VP has done no wrong in my ears. Everything is 4 and 5 star material.
I'm listening to it right now, already a lot better and clicking with me a lot more than at teh time of the release. Funny how sometimes bands and albums just open up to you more with no reason. This bad boy is going in the car tomorrow morning.
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VP has done no wrong in my ears. Everything is 4 and 5 star material.
After finishing my collection with the amazing debut a couple of weeks ago, I think this statement is more than fair.
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Funny how sometimes bands and albums just open up to you more with no reason.
I hear ya... for years, Redemption and Angra did nothing for me. Then one day (not the same day) both of them finally clicked.
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Loving this new album. New Vampyre is easily one of the best things they have done.
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Loving this new album. New Vampyre is easily one of the best things they have done.
Love The Godmaker as well. Killer riffs and very catchy chorus
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These are my middle-tier songs. I love Soul Alliance, Inside, Misery Affection and The Black Knight. :D
Oh, and the intro is gorgeous.
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Loving this new album. New Vampyre is easily one of the best things they have done.
Love The Godmaker as well. Killer riffs and very catchy chorus
Godmaker is my fav on the album. Just listened to it this morning. Still kicking all kinds of ass.
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Gonna revisit the new one next.
Do it! Do it! Do it!. Still my AOTY at this point.
WTF, I could have sworn I quoted this post the other day saying it was also my album of 2014 so far, along with Kaleidoscope by Transatlantic :lol
It didn't immediately click with me (like most albums TBH), but after a few listens I really started to love it. Godmaker and New Vampyre are probably my favourites too.
Pity they're so underrated :sad:
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Yeah, it's on repeat in the car at the moment, just loving this band and album at the moment. The recurring piano themes throughout the entire record is just brilliant and my fav would be still Dark Vampyre. Godmaker probably would be second, but really the whole thing is on another level.
Gotta mention the guitar solo section of Godmaker and how fucking simple but brilliant it is. The melodies and just the whole way it's constructed it unreal and the way it climaxes back into the chorus is incredible.
Oh, and how about the main riff of Lost World?! :metal
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Fuck, Chronicles could be their best album.
It's now in my top 5 of the year, maybe top 3.
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Fuck, Chronicles could be their best album.
It's now in my top 5 of the year, maybe top 3.
Atta boy. Keep spinning it!
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I haven't had time to play it much but after a listen or two I' rate it as clearly the best of their more proggy era and about equal with Colour Temple, which is a different style.
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Fuck, Chronicles could be their best album.
It's now in my top 5 of the year, maybe top 3.
Atta boy. Keep spinning it!
It just keeps growing. I think I said form the moment it was released that it had massive potential but just needed the time to click with me, well boom!
I think Godmaker has clearly become my fav too. Wow, that solo.
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Listening to Far Off Grace right now...i love this album! :metal
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Wasn't Part 2 suppose to be only 6 months after Part 1 or something, or I possibly could be getting confused with another band.
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Wasn't Part 2 suppose to be only 6 months after Part 1 or something, or I possibly could be getting confused with another band.
I thought it was going to be released in 2015. Might be mistaken though.
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Wasn't Part 2 suppose to be only 6 months after Part 1 or something, or I possibly could be getting confused with another band.
I thought it was going to be released in 2015. Might be mistaken though.
You're probably right, I think I'm probably thinking of something else.
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Chronicles of the Immortals: Netherworld Part 2 will be released at 6th of November this year.
Tracklist:
VISION 11even * In My Universe
VISION 12elve * Godmaker's Temptation
VISION 13teen * Stone Roses Edge
VISION 14teen * Blood Of Eden (* All love must die) (* The rite)(* This is the night)
VISION 15teen * Monster
VISION 16teen * Diabolica Comedia
VISION 17teen * Where Have The Children Gone
VISION 18teen * The Last Fight
VISION 19teen * Circle Of The Devil
This one is a blind buy for me and if it's as brilliant as the first one, it might be a serious contender for Album of the Year for me too.
Edit: oh, right, the trailer for the album is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKqCj8NMqaM&feature=youtu.be).
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:tup :tup :tup
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Hell fucking yes, about time. I got so excited when I saw the thread with new posts. The first one I think is their best album and these samples sound great. Man, the back half of this year is looking pretty good for releases.
Chad's gonna blow his load when he sees this.
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My god when I saw a FB post this morning about them shooting a vid I got excited. This warms my cauckles. And other things that rhyme.
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new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usyk875uMBM
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Yeah... loving it. I made the mistake of posting it in the 'Power Metal' thread.
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Yeah... loving it. I made the mistake of posting it in the 'Power Metal' thread.
Should be posted in every thread it's so good.
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Chronicles of the Immortals: Netherworld Part 2 will be released at 6th of November this year.
Tracklist:
VISION 11even * In My Universe
VISION 12elve * Godmaker's Temptation
VISION 13teen * Stone Roses Edge
VISION 14teen * Blood Of Eden (* All love must die) (* The rite)(* This is the night)
VISION 15teen * Monster
VISION 16teen * Diabolica Comedia
VISION 17teen * Where Have The Children Gone
VISION 18teen * The Last Fight
VISION 19teen * Circle Of The Devil
This one is a blind buy for me and if it's as brilliant as the first one, it might be a serious contender for Album of the Year for me too.
Edit: oh, right, the trailer for the album is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKqCj8NMqaM&feature=youtu.be).
Every Vanden Plas release has been a blind buy for me since I discovered the band in 2006. They are that good. However, I've yet to explore any of the albums earlier than Beyond Daylight, so I may have to get with it.
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Get the debut man, it's incredible.
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Get the debut everything man, it's all incredible.
fix'd
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Get the debut everything man, it's all incredible.
fix'd
I just checked their discography and I thought Beyond Daylight was ealier than it was. God Thing and Far Off Grace were before, so yeah, check everything definitely.
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Chad, what's your favourite out of the ealier albums? I find it hard to split FOG, TGT and BD, all so solid.
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Beyond Daylight, then FOG. Despite the fact that The God Thing has my hands down favorite song by them, it's middle of the pack for me.
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I'm guessing You Fly, or Rainmaker?
Christ 0 is a fav of mine too, some of the riffs on that one are magic. Just freaking solid across the whole park with this band.
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What's the name of the VP singer? Have they had the same one always?
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What's the name of the VP singer? Have they had the same one always?
Andy Kuntz. They have in fact had the same lineup their whole career.
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Yup always had the same singer.
Colour Temple is still my face VP, I love the more AOR/melodic style of some of the songs.
It has stood the test of time very well still sounding great.
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CT was the last album from the band that I got, but I love it too.
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Was my first VP CD many many years ago.
I first heard them in the early 1990's, I was trading tapes with a French pen-pal.
He sent me a tape with Soul Survives on it and I was hooked.
Still one of the most consistent bands around, always delivering quality releases.
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What's the name of the VP singer? Have they had the same one always?
Andy Kuntz. They have in fact had the same lineup their whole career.
You know, I never heard of any lineup changes, and I've been a longtime fan, and this is still shocking. For bands that are more than a trio to go this long, and put out as many albums as they have, and stay stable is not something you see everyday.
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What's the name of the VP singer? Have they had the same one always?
Andy Kuntz. They have in fact had the same lineup their whole career.
You know, I never heard of any lineup changes, and I've been a longtime fan, and this is still shocking. For bands that are more than a trio to go this long, and put out as many albums as they have, and stay stable is not something you see everyday.
You're absolutely right, it's an anomoly these days. 21 years since CT was released and about to release their 8th album.
Still one of the most consistent bands around, always delivering quality releases.
Every one of their albums has been high quality and they are seriously getting better and better.
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I'm guessing You Fly, or Rainmaker?
Rainmaker.
It is quite a feat to still have an original lineup after so many years and albums.
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Made a wma cd with all their albums for the car. Booyahh!
Listened to BD, C1 and CO yesterday, incredible.
Never really gave my full focus to BD before but what an album. Can't believe I've missed Phoenix and that solo section, holy shit. That might be one of the greatest solos I've ever heard, seriously.
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Made a wma cd with all their albums for the car. Booyahh!
Listened to BD, C1 and CO yesterday, incredible.
Never really gave my full focus to BD before but what an album. Can't believe I've missed Phoenix and that solo section, holy shit. That might be one of the greatest solos I've ever heard, seriously.
Until Netherworld, it was my favorite album of theirs. Damn fine band. Love to see the love for them.
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mate, the more I listen to their older stuff, the more of a fan I am. Today was CT. Love the rawer sound and some of the melodies heres are stunning. Great debut.
Tomorrow will be either be Grace or God Thing.
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mate, the more I listen to their older stuff, the more of a fan I am. Today was CT. Love the rawer sound and some of the melodies heres are stunning. Great debut.
Tomorrow will be either be Grace or God Thing.
Why not both? :)
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mate, the more I listen to their older stuff, the more of a fan I am. Today was CT. Love the rawer sound and some of the melodies heres are stunning. Great debut.
Tomorrow will be either be Grace or God Thing.
Why not both? :)
Depends how much driving I need to do with work. On a normal day can pretty much get a full album in over the course of the day.
Oh, listened to C1 also. So pumped for the new one.
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mate, the more I listen to their older stuff, the more of a fan I am. Today was CT. Love the rawer sound and some of the melodies heres are stunning. Great debut.
Tomorrow will be either be Grace or God Thing.
Why not both? :)
Depends how much driving I need to do with work. On a normal day can pretty much get a full album in over the course of the day.
Oh, listened to C1 also. So pumped for the new one.
Yeah, I spun that one yesterday too. Brilliant... just brilliant. I find it incredibly ironic that the sequel's to both my 2013 and 2014 AOTY are being released on the same day. I better have my roulette wrapped up by Nov 6th, cuz after that, it'll all be Netherworld II and Free Fall II.
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Fuck yeah man, gonna be a cracker day. Definitely will have to pre order those ones.
C1 would have easily cracked my top 5 of that year, probably top 3. Magic album.
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I find it incredibly ironic that the sequel's to both my 2013 and 2014 AOTY are being released on the same day.
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Finally had a chance to listen to the new song, and yeah, I like it. Definitely feels like a continuation of Chronicles I.
Also, apparently this is the cover:
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I thought this was the cover;
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I thought this was the cover;
Oh, right. I forgot about this image. That's probably the cover, it fits more with the first album cover.
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So I come back home from Anathema concert, and look what shows up in my inbox...
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First listen will ensue tomorrow! I'll let you guys know how awesome it is. :biggrin:
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How do this happen? :lol
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Probably Frontiers Promo files for reviewers.
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Lucky bastards.
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FU
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Alright, after two listens I can say it's very good, maybe Chronicles Part 1 good. Time will tell.
I won't go into spoilers much, I guess we'll discuss it when you all are able to listen to it. I can say there are some great reprises of Part 1, some outstanding new material too. I'm not sold on two songs out of ten nine now, but I think they have a potential to grow on me. Also, I suppose I can reveal that one song is longer than 13 minutes.
I wonder if I'm allowed send my favourite song from this to Chad in his roulette and get the first place. :lol
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Yes, you are. Same for if/when you get FreeFall II
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Lucky bastards.
Well not really, I used to hate getting mp3 for reviews.
Poor quality in general and your doing free promo for the band/label and you're don't even get a CD for your efforts.
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Lucky bastards.
Well not really, I used to hate getting mp3 for reviews.
Poor quality in general and your doing free promo for the band/label and you're don't even get a CD for your efforts.
Dunno, this promo is 256 kbps mp3, and so are most of my music files on PC. CD quality is better, but nothing I couldn't live without. *shrug*
And I think our attitudes towards reviewing stuff are really the opposites. I'm not reviewing the albums for the band, and I certainly don't want anything for my efforts — if I like the album, I'm going to buy it regardless of having the promo files — I'm mostly doing it because I enjoy writing and sharing my thoughts about music in general. If the band reads my review, great, if not, I know other people will read it and maybe end up checking out the album; and even if they won't, I know I had fun writing it.
And I'm not even going to do a review of this Vanden Plas album... another colleague of mine already snatched this one for her review list. So an early listen for free? I'd count myself lucky indeed. And I'm going to get this album on CD anyway, it's great, I'd say it's another contender for AOTY. :tup
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Yup, they showed up in my inbox too, still haven't downloaded it yet though.....
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Actually our attitudes are pretty similar, I did enjoy sharing my thoughts with others.
I am a little bitter though, when in 2009 I was threatened with legal action, after being falsely accused of illegally spreading watermarked promo files.
The label in question has their lawyer send me a letter, with multi million euro court case threat.
Thankfully it never got to that stage, but be very careful what and who you share official label files with.
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Who do you guys write your reviews for? Is it for specific websites or something?
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Who do you guys write your reviews for? Is it for specific websites or something?
Both Ruslan and I write for Nem (LadyObscure.com)
As to the files, mine don't go beyond my computer and music player. Even when I got the IQ tracks early I didn't share them with my brother, I made him wait...... :biggrin:
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Who do you guys write your reviews for? Is it for specific websites or something?
Both Ruslan and I write for Nem (LadyObscure.com)
Awesome.
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Another new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_ZoEk5XEU
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Another new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_ZoEk5XEU
Freaking awesome. This is gonna be great.
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I wasn't blown away by the last one, but these first two songs have me thinking I'll like Pt 2 better.
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I'm 30 seconds in, and already sportin' wood.
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In fact, this is the only song from the album I don't like that much.
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In fact, this is the only song from the album I don't like that much.
Well Chad's going to need some pseudoephedrine handy ;D
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I wasn't blown away by the last one, but these first two songs have me thinking I'll like Pt 2 better.
I'm looking forward to see what Part II brings. I listened to the first one when it came out, and wasn't too moved by it. I recently gave it another listen, and I liked it better, but still didn't find it too exciting. I'm hoping for more uptempo rockers.
Another new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk_ZoEk5XEU
Freaking awesome. This is gonna be great.
This is a really good tune!
For the record, and sake of this thread - I got into Vanden Plas at Beyond Daylight. (Granted, I heard "Rainmaker" on a prog sampler I got for free many years prior, and thought that was pretty boss.) Christ 0 I thought was fantastic. After these two, I was psyched for the next thing they'd do. Seraphic Clockwork was pretty much a letdown IMO. I was hoping for more downtuned guitar.
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I'm so torn on Vanden Plas. I love them when they blast out uptempo prog metal, but too often to my liking they get stuck in slow, mid-tempo atmospheric stuff. The two latest songs have been promising though..
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Official Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVF4Q4CDIw
My body is ready.
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Yeah that sounds delicious.
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Yeah, great trailer and finally they're revealing some more delicious parts indeed. I also love the dramatic narration voice. :lol
Anyway, for those who are probably curious, mild spoilers which song is which below:
Riff from the very beginning (the one that repeats at 0:18) is from In My Universe, and obviously the chorus from 0:26 too, though it's the first chorus — and the choruses in the song grow progressively more exciting, and it's only a first half of the chorus too. Starting from 0:53 is an amazing driving riff from the second part of Blood of Eden (I love that one); 1:10 is an insight in Godmaker's Temptation chorus, 1:36 onwards (from right before "Netherworld II" is Diabolica Comedia intro, and I can't recall which track comes up at 1:51 (after "now").
This album is seriously awesome. It's in my Top 3 releases this year, and with how many great releases there was... well, you get it.
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From the teasers, I'm eagerly awaiting this one moreso than Kingdom of Rock. Still, Nov 6 is gonna be awesome.
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Official Trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVF4Q4CDIw
My body is ready.
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Another epic song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKPeel6mURI&feature=youtu.be
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Glorious!
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Glorious!
Yes.
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That's my second least favourite from the album, right after The Last Fight. :lol
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Very nice
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That's my second least favourite from the album, right after The Last Fight. :lol
I'll take that.
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Another epic song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKPeel6mURI&feature=youtu.be
I don't know if I'd call that an epic song. Nothing wrong with it, but epic?
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Another epic song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKPeel6mURI&feature=youtu.be
I don't know if I'd call that an epic song. Nothing wrong with it, but epic?
I posted it before I heard it. :lol I'm just referring to the whole damn thing. Epic band, epic concept epic album. Odd song to release prior I agree but it's great.
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I posted it before I heard it. :lol
:lol
There is something about this singer that I am having trouble with. I can't put my finger on it.
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He's German?
His name sounds like a swear word?
He's awesome?
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He's German?
His name sounds like a swear word?
He's awesome?
He sounds more nasally than the guy in Heavenly?
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He pronounces 'visions' with a 'w'?
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I can see what you're saying Tim... for me, it just clicked on my very first listen of VP 10-ish years ago. But I do hear what you're hearing - it just works for me.
Top 10 vocalist for me right now.
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He pronounces 'visions' with a 'w'?
Lots of Europeans do this and vice versa, w becoming v.
They also do it with y and j.
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He pronounces 'visions' with a 'w'?
Lots of Europeans do this and vice versa, w becoming v.
They also do it with y and j.
Yeah, but it's hell funny sometimes. The one on the song Vision One is epic.
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Don't forget Fabio Leone pronouncing the w in sword. :biggrin:
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He pronounces 'visions' with a 'w'?
Lots of Europeans do this and vice versa, w becoming v.
They also do it with y and j.
Yeah, but it's hell funny sometimes. The one on the song Vision One is epic.
Yeah, I got a laugh from your original post thinking of Vision One. :lol
I really like how Andy sings, but I must say I have a lot of trouble understanding some lyrics with his kinda slurry nasal pronunciation, which along with his low voice makes him unique I guess. His vocals are certainly fun to sing along with, but damn, I was surprised when I finally bought Netherworld Part I and checked some lyrical sequences. It wasn't what I heard at all.
I feel it'll be the same on Part II. Since I have no booklet, I'm pretty convinced he sings in English, French, Japanese and maybe some language from Slavic group in the epic... but when my actual CD copy arrives, I won't be astonished to find out it's all in English. :lol
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I think I'm gonna pre-order this one fast tracked from Amazon. It'll be worth the extra few bucks, along with Freefall. Really looking forward to this album.
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I picked this album up last night.
Wow, wow, I'm almost lost for words how good this album is.
Stunning in every way possible.
The only thing I can nit-pick is some slight/brief clipping in a couple of places.
Song wise and the musicianship is spot on.
The perfect mix of quality songwriting and progressive metal.
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I picked this album up last night.
Wow, wow, I'm almost lost for words how good this album is.
Stunning in every way possible.
The only thing I can nit-pick is some slight/brief clipping in a couple of places.
Song wise and the musicianship is spot on.
The perfect mix of quality songwriting and progressive metal.
You know it. Instan AOTY candidate. Though, I'm probably a little biased.
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I think I'm gonna pre-order this one fast tracked from Amazon. It'll be worth the extra few bucks, along with Freefall. Really looking forward to this album.
It'll be available to download straight away so just order regular delivery.
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Easily the best album of it's kind I've heard for a long time now.
AOTY? It could easily be right up with Amorphis.
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I picked this album up last night.
Wow, wow, I'm almost lost for words how good this album is.
Stunning in every way possible.
The only thing I can nit-pick is some slight/brief clipping in a couple of places.
Song wise and the musicianship is spot on.
The perfect mix of quality songwriting and progressive metal.
Where from? Guessing Utopia.
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Yup they have it in stock.
Not getting a local release either, so you won't find it at at JB.
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Yup they have it in stock.
Not getting a local release either, so you won't find it at at JB.
Looks like it's back to Amazon for me. How did you find out it's not getting a local release. I've always been curious to know that sort of stuff? I'm guessing that's the same with Freefall.
Great to hear such positive reviews anyway.
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The purchasing guy at Utopia, Mick he checked a couple weeks back and told me it wasn't getting a local release.
So he ordered it for me from their European supplier.
Check your PM.
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Utopia seems like the best place in the world. Probably gonna go for a Sydney trip in winter next year and this will be my first stop.
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Utopia seems like the best place in the world.
Well it is Utopia!
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Only got to listen to this once today, but like many I'm loving it on first listen. Hoping that continues to be the case.
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So, folks, out of curiosity, what are your three early favourites from the album?
Mine - though not so early as I had a month to digest the album - are:
1. In My Universe
2. Where Have the Children Gone
3. Blood of Eden
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Since it contains the reprise of my favorite riff from the first album, Vision 13 - Stone Roses Edge, is my fave at the moment. Followed by Vision 14 - Blood of Eden, and Vision 15 - Monster. That's a helluva three song run. Vision 11 is a fantastic opener too. Grabs ya by the short and curlies right away, and doesn't let go.
Two listens in, and I'm going to have to restrain myself. Quite certain this will be my AOTY.
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Monster has the most awesome reprise, but I think the rest of the song isn't that amazing. I like how it starts though, with this heavy riff and amazing delivery by Andy.
And yeah, Vision 11 rocks and still my favourite from the album. I wasn't sure what to expect - to be honest, I was afraid this album will be nowhere near as good as Part I - then I've heard the first track and I was just blown away and convinced this is awesome.
David Gilmour is still my AOTY, but this one may well be #2 instead of The Gentle Storm.
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I'm only getting into my first listen right now, but it sounds great so far. And you're right Evermind, about Vision 11even- what an opener! :omg:
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David Gilmour is still my AOTY, but this one may well be #2 instead of The Gentle Storm.
I thought Death Is Just A Feeling was your AOTY?
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David Gilmour is still my AOTY, but this one may well be #2 instead of The Gentle Storm.
I thought Death Is Just A Feeling was your AOTY?
Nah, it was The Gentle Storm one for a long time. DIJAF got close to topping it, but then David Gilmour released his new album, then this new Vanden Plas got in... DIJAF is only #4 now. It's just an incredible year of music, so many brilliant releases.
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I agree with you guys - 11,13,14,15 are stellar.........the rest is very good.
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Good to see all the positive comments on this album. We knew the band wouldn't disappoint. Will be ordering my copy tomorrow.
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I think I might prefer Path II to Path I. In My Universe, Blood of Eden and The Last Fight are standouts for me and probably better than anything on Path I.
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I think I might prefer Path II to Path I. In My Universe, Blood of Eden and The Last Fight are standouts for me and probably better than anything on Path I.
I agree on the first point and on In My Universe, this one is the best song from both albums for me. The Last Fight, well, I wish this tune had better chorus. It seriously drags the song down for me. Blood of Eden is indeed awesome, but I think I like Misery Affection, Soul Alliance, Inside (now that's a flawless three-song run) from the Part I, and Where Have the Children Gone from Pt II better.
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Just following on from the Beyond Daylight thread, I've found a new found love for it too. I never fully discovered it but over the last few months I've been spinning it again and it fantastic. Phoenix has become one of my fav songs from them, that solo! Probably my fav of the old stuff.
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Just gave the new VP a spin on Spotify. I sat through the whole thing in its entirety. While the first half is outstanding, the thing loses some serious steam half way through. Not sure what happened. It was like listening to two different albums.
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Finally got my copy. Listening now.
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Just gave the new VP a spin on Spotify. I sat through the whole thing in its entirety. While the first half is outstanding, the thing loses some serious steam half way through. Not sure what happened. It was like listening to two different albums.
Can't disagree more with this. Second half is awesome.
Speaking of that, first half is awesome too.
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Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but damn I love this band. Just discovered them 2 weeks ago. I bought the debut, Christ 0 , The God Thing and Seraphic Clockwork. I have listened to both Netherworld parts 1 and 2, but have not yet purchased. I am having a hard time getting into these two and do not know why.
Songs I love are:
Judas, Fireroses Dance, January Sun, When the Wind Blows, Rainmaker, You Fly , Frequency, On my way to Jerusalem, Phoenix and Nightwalker
I would love for DT's next release to be as heavy as Christ 0 :metal
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Big Vanden Plas fan here. Get Beyond Daylight...Spirit of Live is a kickass album and always gets me pumped!
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Sorry for resurrecting this old thread, but damn I love this band. Just discovered them 2 weeks ago. I bought the debut, Christ 0 , The God Thing and Seraphic Clockwork. I have listened to both Netherworld parts 1 and 2, but have not yet purchased. I am having a hard time getting into these two and do not know why.
Songs I love are:
Judas, Fireroses Dance, January Sun, When the Wind Blows, Rainmaker, You Fly , Frequency, On my way to Jerusalem, Phoenix and Nightwalker
I would love for DT's next release to be as heavy as Christ 0 :metal
Don't apologise bro, that's what we come here for.
Yeah I found it quite difficult to get into the Netherworld albums too, took a lot more listens than most their other stuff. Get Beyond Daylight next.
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Awesome band, really underrated. Wish they would visit the UK :'( I love the Netherworld albums, definitely among some of my favourite stuff by VP.
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Now some time has passed, which Netherworld does everyone like btter.
For me, Part One wins and it's no contest really. Part 2 is good, but just can't match the beauty and plain awesomness and epicness of Part One.
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I've been meaning to check this band out. I guess 'Christ 0' is a good place to start.
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I've been meaning to check this band out. I guess 'Christ 0' is a good place to start.
Yes it is, but really you can't go wrong with any of their albums.
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I've been meaning to check this band out. I guess 'Christ 0' is a good place to start.
That's where I started, and it's still my favorite album of theirs. Wish You Were Here, Silently are great songs. January Sun is probably a perfect song.
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Now some time has passed, which Netherworld does everyone like btter.
For me, Part One wins and it's no contest really. Part 2 is good, but just can't match the beauty and plain awesomness and epicness of Part One.
ditto
I listened to them back to back recently and Part 1 was the clear winner
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Perhaps not a clear winner for me, but I prefer Part 1 too. The three-songs run in the end is ridiculously great.
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I just downloaded the debut last night and it is hard to believe that this is the first cd for this band. Progressive monster musically and the cover art rocks.
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I prefer Part II, but it's close. Both albums are ridiculously consistent throughout, but nothing on Part I is quite as good as In My Universe or Blood of Eden, which is why I prefer Part II by a hair.
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I just downloaded the debut last night and it is hard to believe that this is the first cd for this band. Progressive monster musically and the cover art rocks.
The debut is amazing.
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Been listening to their whole discography this week. Love these guys! :metal
I believe their new album is going to be released early 2019. Very psyched for that! :metal
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Been listening to their whole discography this week. Love these guys! :metal
I believe their new album is going to be released early 2019. Very psyched for that! :metal
Source? Is it Netherworld III?
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I used to listen to this band alot. Beyond daylight was my introduction and i think the christ 0 record is my favorite of theirs.
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Been listening to their whole discography this week. Love these guys! :metal
I believe their new album is going to be released early 2019. Very psyched for that! :metal
Source? Is it Netherworld III?
It's called The Ghost Experiment. They have been posting updates on their FB page.
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Been listening to their whole discography this week. Love these guys! :metal
I believe their new album is going to be released early 2019. Very psyched for that! :metal
Source? Is it Netherworld III?
It's called The Ghost Experiment. They have been posting updates on their FB page.
WTF... I'm not getting that in my FB feed. F'n FB!
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Prog metallers Vanden Plas Official will release their ninth studio album, "The Ghost Xperiment - Awakening" on October 11th. First single, pre-orders and more info coming soon. In the meantime, don't forget about the band's retrospective box set, “The Epic Works 1991-2015” and color vinyl reissues of select titles are coming on July 12th.
Tracklist:
1. Cold December Night
2. The Phantoms Of Prends-Toi-Garde
3. Three Ghosts
4. Devils´ Poetry
5. Fall From The Skies
6. The Ghost Xperiment
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Excited there's only 6 songs.
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Just know this will be great. This band is ridiculously talented.
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new song....
https://youtu.be/23BzcW8-zAY
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zero reaction to the first song last month?
how about another new one....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH-N1w8i8Gk
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Sounds good :tup I tend to only listen to songs that are released ahead of the album only once, but I also usually need lots of listens to digest something, so I don't have much to say about the tracks so far ;D
With only 6 tracks, I was expecting maybe a big long epic, but if the track list I saw is accurate, that's not the case and the album is less than 47 minutes long.
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@ T-Ski... I think we were talking about it in a couple other threads. I'm very pumped for this album. Typical VP stuff... which kicked my ass.
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@ T-Ski... I think we were talking about it in a couple other threads. I'm very pumped for this album. Typical VP stuff... which kicked my ass.
Yeah it got mentioned in the hard rock thread Ski. The first song released was amazing. The second song here is pretty standard but will wait for the album. I'm happy with more typical VP. Very strong band.
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Holy crap. Been playing this album non-stop since Friday. Nice mix of Beyond Daylight and their current heavier style. All the songs in this album are well constructed and very catchy. Has anyone else listened to this album?
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Holy crap. Been playing this album non-stop since Friday. Nice mix of Beyond Twilight and their current heavier style. All the songs in this album are well constructed and very catchy. Has anyone else listened to this album?
Hella yeah. Only nice once so far... also had to spin The Ferrymen
*damn iphone auto-correct*
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Haven't spun this yet, waiting on my pre-order to arrive.
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Will take a while to digest, as always with me, but it sounds pretty good so far. Not sure I'll like it more than either Netherworld album though.
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Frontiers posted that Part II will be released in 2020.
I thought Netherworld was a tad too long. It does have some great gems though.
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Just got through a first listen. I thought the first track was weak and each track improved a bit from there with the best tracks being four and (esp) five and then we have the lead single last which I don't mind.
Overall..........I might return to a couple of tracks but not something I am raving over at all.
If I had to rate it at this point maybe high 70's-80 , which is quite a bit below both Netherworld albums which I thought were their best in a while , especially the second.
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If I had to rate it at this point maybe high 70's-80 , which is quite a bit below both Netherworld albums which I thought were their best in a while , especially the second
Huh, I thought the first one was better by quite a margin.
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If I had to rate it at this point maybe high 70's-80 , which is quite a bit below both Netherworld albums which I thought were their best in a while , especially the second
Huh, I thought the first one was better by quite a margin.
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I got this behind the scenes photo of the vocal sessions:
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Someone had some bad gas while recording then huh?
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I saw Vanden Plas opening for DT back then and listened to some songs here and there over time and they never grabbed me.
Today I listened to the Seraphic Clockwork and that wasn't bad at all, maybe they aren't as bland as I thought. Is this record representative of their style? Is it one of their better ones? Where to go next?
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I would go to the Netherworld albums first and then - having some idea of your taste - the debut Color Temple (which made my DTF Top 50) I have always been a fan but found them quite inconsistent for much of the time.
I started with their debut way back then and it remains my favourite - Andy's vocals were rough (some would say still are :) ) but it's a very consistent album and I thought that slightly progressive melodic metal style suited their abilities best. Since they turned proggier I have felt in most cases that it stretched their songwriting to the point of them struggling to fill out an album with quality songs in the way that DT can , although the two Netherworld albums softened my view on that.
I recall getting the first of the proggier albums on release (The God Thing) and hearing Rainmaker for the first time ........ :hefdaddy .........but the rest of the album couldn't get close and since then I have been very patiently waiting for something that good. It's taken a long time but I think they have become a lot more consistently good in recent years.
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-Christ 0
-The God Thing
-Netherworld
-Ghost Experiment
I would start with those.
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I'll echo Brent's comment on Rainmaker. Top 10 song from the 2000s in my books. I'd rate as follows:
Chronicles I
Chronicles II
Beyond Daylight
Far Off Grace
Christ 0
The God Thing
Seraphic Clockwork
Colour Temple (sorry Brent... I feel it has the weakest songs - though, I got in to VP all at once around Christ 0)
I'm guessing Ghost Experiment will land before or after Beyond Daylight, but I've only listened to it twice.
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Someone had some bad gas while recording then huh?
Nah, the vocals sound like the singer has a clothespin on his nose.
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Thanks for the recommendations, will check them out given time.
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Someone had some bad gas while recording then huh?
Nah, the vocals sound like the singer has a clothespin on his nose.
Then you probably wouldn't like Manilla Road then
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Someone had some bad gas while recording then huh?
Nah, the vocals sound like the singer has a clothespin on his nose.
Yeah, I understood your joke.
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Christ 0 has become my go to VP album then Netherworld part 1.
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I only have Christ 0 on cardboard sleeve promo CD, looking to upgrade to the proper disc, seems as though it's not as cheap as I thought it would be. Is this release OOP already?
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I picked up the Epic Works box set this weekend. What a great value. 11 CDs (complete with full jewel cases and liner notes), a nice booklet, and cool box for 65 bucks. I had stupidly sold off the majority of my VP collection when I did my stupid CD purge 12 years ago. So to get them all again, plus four albums I didn't have...just a great set.
I love the new album. I have had a media download of it for awhile, and really been spinning it a ton. That's what set me off in getting the box set. I have a bit to catch up on. I stopped after The Seraphic Clockwork (which I bought but don't recall ever listening to it), so Christ 0 and the two Chronicles of the Immortals records are new to me. Such a great band. And to think they have been together for like 25 years, without a lineup change. That's something, given that it is a full band, and not just a power trio.
Looking forward to catching up on the VP story and getting re-acquianted with the albums I already liked.
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I bought Far Off Grace back in the early 00's I bet, but never kept up with the band. Sometime within the last year, I've been working on getting the majority of them.
I feel rather dumb for not following the band for the last 15-20 years. It's hard to find a bad record in the bunch.
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I bought Far Off Grace back in the early 00's I bet, but never kept up with the band. Sometime within the last year, I've been working on getting the majority of them.
I feel rather dumb for not following the band for the last 15-20 years. It's hard to find a bad record in the bunch.
Very consistent band. One of my closest friends returned to the U.S. after serving in Germany (Air Force) and when he came home in 1999, he got me into Vanden Plas. Totally killer band.
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Haven't checked out the new album yet but gave the live CD they released last year a spin in the car. I haven't even watched the DVD or listened to the CD but the CD was very enjoyable. I don't think it's the strongest set, but a great performance all round.
EDIT: Shit, just thought since it's for the SC album I just checked and it was released in 2017. Holy moly times flies.
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Just saw in the release date calendar thread that a new VP album is coming in December :tup
New song 'Under the Horizon' here: Vanden Plas - "Under The Horizon" - Lyric Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKAeRyNXErI)
Our new album, "The Ghost Xperiment - Illumination" will be released on December 4, 2020 via Frontiers Music srl. Pre-order/save on CD/LP/Digital here: https://orcd.co/vandenplas (https://orcd.co/vandenplas?fbclid=IwAR22vZjf8yzHxSN7prdUj1PHqE76xO8HyQbwBAFzEwJVAyVopKMPXDJkhmM)
Tracklist:
1. When The World Is Falling Down (Music: Stephan Lill / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
2. Under The Horizon (Music: Stephan Lill / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
3. Black Waltz Death (Music: Stephan Lill / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
4. The Lonely Psychogon (Music: Günter Werno / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
5. Fatal Arcadia (Music: Stephan Lill / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
6. The Ouroboros (Music: Andy Kuntz, Stephan Lill / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
7. Ghost Engineers (Music: Günter Werno / Lyrics: Andy Kuntz)
8. Krieg kennt keine Sieger feat. Alea/Saltatio Mortis (Bonus Track)
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:metal
I ended up getting into the first album. It's a cracker.
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Excited for this. The press stream hit my inbox either yesterday or late last week, but with Fates Warning, I haven't listened yet, and probably won't until I get the actual CD (I pre-ordered it a while back). Can't wait for this album. Vanden Plas can do no wrong. :metal
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Not a bad single
I honestly haven't loved VP since Christ 0. After that I would still buy the albums but they just didn't do it for me. Will check out the new one though.
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Nice, I'm always on board for this band, one of my favorites of the last decade or so
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I listened to the previous album yesterday and didn't even remember that the new one was coming soon. It was me who posted about it in here 6 weeks ago as well. :lol My memory is shot to shit :facepalm:
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Not a bad single
I honestly haven't loved VP since Christ 0. After that I would still buy the albums but they just didn't do it for me. Will check out the new one though.
Their sound has changed a little and become a bit samey IMO. I did like Netherword 1 a lot but I feel while they produce quality stuff still, they are a bit in a rut.
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Not a bad single
I honestly haven't loved VP since Christ 0. After that I would still buy the albums but they just didn't do it for me. Will check out the new one though.
Their sound has changed a little and become a bit samey IMO. I did like Netherword 1 a lot but I feel while they produce quality stuff still, they are a bit in a rut.
I’m with ya. It’ll still be a release day insta-purchase for me. One of the bands I could count on one hand that this applies to for me
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New video
https://youtu.be/EFNi7b6LV7c
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Not entirely unexpected.
High quality video production
Musically - nothing I haven't heard from VP before.
Still an excellent listen.
Invariably a release-day purchase for this guy.
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Not entirely unexpected.
High quality video production
Musically - nothing I haven't heard from VP before.
Still an excellent listen.
Invariably a release-day purchase for this guy.
I haven't watched or listened to any of the new VP. I typically don't with them. I just buy the record and listen. Your summary of the video is about what I expected. LOL. VP, at least for me, never disappoints.
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New video
Vanden Plas - "When The World Is Falling Down" - Official Music Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNi7b6LV7c)
:tup :metal
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New video
https://youtu.be/EFNi7b6LV7c
I've been ragging on these guys for getting stuck in a rut, but this I quite enjoyed. Sounded like something from Christ O.
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Guys, I've only heard a few tracks from Christ 0 and I quite liked it. Is the new album worth a listen as the next step or should I check out another one instead?
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I will say I'm enjoying the new album much more than The Ghost Experiment - Awakening. The new one is on par with the Netherworld pair of albums. I'm not really familiar with anything pre-Netherworld, I should dive deeper into these guys discography.
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Guys, I've only heard a few tracks from Christ 0 and I quite liked it. Is the new album worth a listen as the next step or should I check out another one instead?
The first album I heard from the band was Far Off Grace - the opening track (I Can See) is very Dream Theater-like. That is still my favorite album of theirs, probably because it was the first one I'd heard.
Most of their albums seem to be similar in sound/style.
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Well, sounds like the perfect opportunity to rank their discography!
Beyond Daylight
Netherworld I and II
Far Off Grace
Ghost Xperiment - Awakening
Christ 0
The Seraphic Clockwork
The God Thing (though, it does have my absolute fave song by them - Rainmaker)
Colour Temple
Not ranking the new release yet, I've only listened to it twice.
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I like the new album a little bit better than its companion. I would love to have these guys go back to what they were doing back around The God Thing, not necessarily making concept albums. This seems to be a trend in prog metal lately, every album is a concept album. Sometimes just a collection of songs can be great too.
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I like the new album a little bit better than its companion. I would love to have these guys go back to what they were doing back around The God Thing, not necessarily making concept albums. This seems to be a trend in prog metal lately, every album is a concept album. Sometimes just a collection of songs can be great too.
Remind me what you're recording again? :lol :lol
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Hmmm....let's see;
Beyond Daylight
Crist 0
Netherworld 1
Far Off Grace
Color Temple
The God Thing
Seraphic Clockwork
Awakening
Netherworld 2
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I like the new album a little bit better than its companion. I would love to have these guys go back to what they were doing back around The God Thing, not necessarily making concept albums. This seems to be a trend in prog metal lately, every album is a concept album. Sometimes just a collection of songs can be great too.
Remind me what you're recording again? :lol :lol
I couldn't beat 'em so I joined 'em ;)
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Just a bump for those who missed their new live album on the Friday Releases thread
Vanden Plas - Live & Immortal was also released today. Great live stuff. Always have had a soft spot for VP. :metal
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Their last live release was pretty stellar.
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Ok, would you guys kindly give me some guidance on the post Chris 0 albums?
I truly love colour temple through Christ 0, but know almost nothing going forward.
which ones would you recommend?
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The Chronicles of the Immortals albums. Without a doubt. Each were my AOTY for ‘14 and ‘15.
Then The Ghost Xperiment albums
Seraphic Clockwork last.
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All of my Shadows which as like 3 VP members is fairly decent. Think of it as a shorter songs version of Vanden Plas..but yes, imo, jingle_boy nailed with the VP albums post Christ 0.
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Ok, would you guys kindly give me some guidance on the post Chris 0 albums?
I truly love colour temple through Christ 0, but know almost nothing going forward.
which ones would you recommend?
Chronicles 1.
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All of my Shadows which as like 3 VP members is fairly decent. Think of it as a shorter songs version of Vanden Plas..but yes, imo, jingle_boy nailed with the VP albums post Christ 0.
I forgot all about this, will have to check it out.
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All of my Shadows which as like 3 VP members is fairly decent. Think of it as a shorter songs version of Vanden Plas..but yes, imo, jingle_boy nailed with the VP albums post Christ 0.
I forgot all about this, will have to check it out.
It was ok.
You'll probably hate it. :lol
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Yeah.....you're probably right. :lol
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I bought Chronicles 1 many years ago. I had a hard time getting into it at the time, but went back to it again recently and have really enjoyed it. I wish more of this band's CDs were in print—I just bought Ghost Xperiment 1 and will soon buy the second one, but tracking down the others will take a bit of work. I wish I hadn't missed that box set that they did some years ago. (Why is it that these convenient box sets that package a bunch of out-of-print albums always seem themselves to be very limited run?)
I know I could always stream the stuff, but I'm still quite attached to the CD format and have a hard time giving my full attention to something I'm exploring through streaming.
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I've got both Chronicles and the first Ghost Experiment when I could still buy stuff abroad. I didn't like the first Ghost Experiment much so I didn't buy the second one, then I listened to it and it's miles ahead of the first, but now I've got nowhere to buy it from. :lol
Also (at least on my copies) Chronicles I is titled "Netherworld [path one]", and Chronicles II is titled "Netherworld II" and that irritates me to no end. The albums were released a year apart, just pick one and stick to it.
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Also (at least on my copies) Chronicles I is titled "Netherworld [path one]", and Chronicles II is titled "Netherworld II" and that irritates me to no end. The albums were released a year apart, just pick one and stick to it.
This bothers me too! :lol