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Title: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2013, 01:43:54 PM
Really hoping they finally bring back ACOS at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 01:46:04 PM
Really hoping they finally bring back ACOS at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.

But what about John Thinks He's Yngwie Song?  :(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2013, 01:58:49 PM
So, how about predictions for the summer setlist? For the headlining shows that go alongside the festivals, I think something like this:

1. As I Am
2. Panic Attack
3. Strange Deja-Vu
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Afterlife
6. Erotomania
7. Voices
8. Wither
Piano Solo
9. Anna Lee
10. New Single
11. Take the Time
12. About to Crash (Reprise)
13. Losing Time/Grand Finale
------------------------------------
14. Trial of Tears
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
Seen it. JP invited me round one evening.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Scorpion on January 22, 2013, 02:01:45 PM
I'd be very happy about that. ToT and Anna Lee deserve seeing the stage once again.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 22, 2013, 02:02:42 PM
So, how about predictions for the summer setlist? For the headlining shows that go alongside the festivals, I think something like this:

1. As I Am
2. Panic Attack
3. Strange Deja-Vu
4. Lost Not Forgotten
5. Afterlife
6. Erotomania
7. Voices
8. Wither
Piano Solo
9. Anna Lee
10. New Single
11. Take the Time
12. About to Crash (Reprise)
13. Losing Time/Grand Finale
------------------------------------
14. Trial of Tears


Swap As I Am and Panic Attack with The Glass Prison and I'd be on board :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2013, 02:03:47 PM
Yeah I was thinking about that, just wasn't sure whether they'd want to use recorded vocals for all MP's parts.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 22, 2013, 02:13:19 PM
Have JP record the vocals? Or a guest vocalist? -i wish-
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 22, 2013, 03:28:48 PM
I kind of want SDV on the regular tour a lot.
TGP on the summer tour would kick major buttocks.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on January 22, 2013, 03:48:26 PM
I think we'll see another new song getting put in the summer set somewhere. But, I hope we'll see The Glass Prison, Trial of Tears, and some other SDOIT songs returning to the sets.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 03:56:21 PM
1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Through Her Eyes
5. Guitar Solo
6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 22, 2013, 04:01:56 PM
1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Through Her Eyes
5. Guitar Solo
6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time


------ would be curious and cool
------ GAME ON
------ brb mindgasming
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 22, 2013, 04:03:47 PM
1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Through Her Eyes
5. Guitar Solo
6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time


Bolded the only part that I am "meh" about
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 04:08:13 PM
It's a ballad that has not appeared since 2000, and one that works very well with an outro solo. And since I like outro solo a lot, there you go!  :laugh:


If you still are not convinced, then I could be more daring. Much more daring.

1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
5. Bass Solo Spot

6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 22, 2013, 04:08:50 PM
1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Through Her Eyes
5. Guitar Solo
6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time


Bolded the only part that I am "meh" about
Hey, you WILL need a pissbreak, DT is happy to provide you with one :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 22, 2013, 04:09:56 PM
It's a ballad that has not appeared since 2000, and one that works very well with an outro solo. And since I like outro solo a lot, there you go!  :laugh:


If you still are not convinced, then I could be more daring. Much more daring.

1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
5. Bass Solo Spot

6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time




:hefdaddy



wait... no OTBOA???
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 04:14:52 PM
For the first time in a long time.... NO  :lol

Anyway, picture the bass solo, with a lone spotlight on John and the rest of the stage silent and still in the darkness. Then a soft blue light lits the drumkit, and then you hear the ride bell of Scarred...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 22, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
For the first time in a long time.... NO  :lol

Anyway, picture the bass solo, with a lone spotlight on John and the rest of the stage silent and still in the darkness. Then a soft blue light lits the drumkit, and then you hear the ride bell of Scarred...
I am pretty sure there's white foam coming out of my ears at the thought of that.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 22, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
For the first time in a long time.... NO  :lol

Anyway, picture the bass solo, with a lone spotlight on John and the rest of the stage silent and still in the darkness. Then a soft blue light lits the drumkit, and then you hear the ride bell of Scarred...
Just got major chills at that thought. Who is it that doesn't like that song anymore?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
Poor crowd reception during the CiM Tour. Blech, screw Chaos In Motion, play it again!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ultimetalhead on January 22, 2013, 04:34:43 PM
Poor crowd reception during the CiM Tour. Blech, screw Chaos In Motion, play it again!
Well, I knew that (fuck 'em, by the way). I thought one of the members didn't like it anymore because it was too hard or some shit.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 04:41:49 PM
Maybe that member is out now?  :huh:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Not sure UAGM and These Walls will be back again.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 05:11:52 PM
Not sure UAGM and These Walls will be back again.

I think they could. The first, pre album leg could have one or two residuals of the previous tour setlist to join up things or warm up before unveiling a bigger tour repertoire later. It happened in summer 2009.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 22, 2013, 05:23:33 PM
1) A Nightmare to Remember
2) Metropolis Pt. 1
3) Overture 1928
4) Cover My Eyes
5) Honor Thy Father
6) The Killing Hand
7) I Walk Beside You
8) New Single
9) Scarred
10) Solitary Shell
12) Losing Time/Grande Finale
13) Encore: Breaking All Illusions

Imagine immediately after TKH, the transition which leads to IWBY on the album is played. Works the same way it works at the end of These Walls.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: countoftuscany42 on January 22, 2013, 06:31:16 PM
would love to see Scarred  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
my question: where do you think they'll tour? im assuming some festival appearances, but do you think any NA dates?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 22, 2013, 06:32:02 PM
would love to see Scarred  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
my question: where do you think they'll tour? im assuming some festival appearances, but do you think any NA dates?


Oh god I wish but I doubt it. :/
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2013, 07:34:14 PM
Poor crowd reception during the CiM Tour. Blech, screw Chaos In Motion, play it again!
Well, I knew that (fuck 'em, by the way). I thought one of the members didn't like it anymore because it was too hard or some shit.

During the CiM tour, I remember JP saying his part in the unison coming out of the instrumental section in Blind Faith was pretty difficult, but don't remember anything about Scarred.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 22, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
Really would like to see The Glass Prison.  From WDaDU, either A Fortune in Lies or The Killing Hand.  I still haven't seen Metropolis live myself, but there are enough live versions out there I don't feel I have to see it.  ACOS would be great, but I don't see them killing 25 minutes unless it's a current release.  Stream of Consciousness is the only other one I really would love to see.  Other than that, I've seen every tour since 8vm, so I'm covered on all the songs from the last four albums.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Unlegit on January 22, 2013, 08:20:57 PM
Eve would be great to see, but that's pretty unrealistic.

Stream of Consciousness and Trial of Tears are also high on my list.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Unlegit on January 22, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
The festivals are usually about 2 hours long of music, correct?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on January 22, 2013, 09:42:01 PM
I can be anywhere from an hour to two hours of music, depending on the festival and the time slot DT gets.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 22, 2013, 11:44:54 PM
I can be anywhere from an hour to two hours of music, depending on the festival and the time slot DT gets.

Last time they had a surprising share of headlining shows. I eon't see them receding.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 23, 2013, 12:19:09 AM
I kind of want SDV on the regular tour a lot.
If the tour schedule is similar to the ADTOE tour and they consider playing SDV, I hope they'll save it for the 2nd EU leg in early 2014, because they never come to Finland on the summer tours, which means that I would miss SDV if they played it on the 1st leg already :-\ However, my prediction is that they still won't play it, which sucks.

I could see Lifting Shadows making a comeback, as it hasn't been played since the Six Degrees tour. Lost Not Forgotten and This is the Life are also very likely to make an appearance. If they'll play some BC&SL stuff again, I bet they'll bring back AROP or Wither. It would also be awesome if they included Finally Free as the main set closer and The Glass Prison as the encore!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 23, 2013, 03:39:52 AM
However, my prediction is that they still won't play it, which sucks.
Shhhh, don't jinx it. I need to believe in some good in this world :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 23, 2013, 05:43:24 AM
It would also be awesome if they included Finally Free as the main set closer and The Glass Prison as the encore!

That would be amazing!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 23, 2013, 10:31:54 AM
Shhhh, don't jinx it. I need to believe in some good in this world :lol
Nah, pessimism is the way to go! ;D When you have no expectations you can't get disappointed, but you can be surprised positively!
It would also be awesome if they included Finally Free as the main set closer and The Glass Prison as the encore!

That would be amazing!
I think it would be logical as it's been a while since either of those were played, and the static sound could be a nice bridge between the main set and encore. TGP's fan-favorite status would also justify it being the encore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Cedar redaC on January 23, 2013, 10:48:15 AM
1. About To Crash
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. These Walls
4. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
5. Bass Solo Spot

6. Scarred
7. This Is The Life
8. Wither
9. Afterlife
10. New Single
11. Stream Of Consciousness
12. Far From Heaven
13. Breaking All Illusions
---
14. Learning To Live / Take The Time



I would put the bass solo before Lifting Shadows off a Dream. That way, John Myung can do some crazy harmonics like in Moon Bubbles, which would just flow into the intro of Lifting Shadows. I think that This is the life could very well be switched out for Forsaken or Surrounded. Otherwise, that would be an amazing set.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 23, 2013, 01:37:21 PM
I know that the bass solo fits naturally with the beginning of LSOAD, but I had this idea of the transition with Scarred and went with it.


ETA: I wrote this post in Italian, before realizing where I am writing  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: SeRoX on January 24, 2013, 05:56:13 AM
They definitely bring back Disappear, Anna Lee, Through Her Eyes, Finally Free, Vacant.

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 24, 2013, 08:36:26 AM
But then a third of the setlist would be piano-driven ballads...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on January 25, 2013, 08:50:32 AM
The only song i'd really want to see would be Finally Fee
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Infinite Cactus on January 25, 2013, 07:45:45 PM
Light Fuse And Get Away (one of my favorites)
Status Seeker
You Not Me (Just to see if they could come up with a cool jam for it)
Finally Free (Why Not)
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (Been too long)
To Live Forever (Been way too long)
This Dying Soul (Why not?)
I Walk Beside You (Been a while)
A Nightmare To Remember (I'd like to see Mangini play this in full, it'd be cool if they brought back the original James vocal melody instead of lolMikevocalsection)
Octavarium would be cool as well. Or ACOS.

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 25, 2013, 10:33:13 PM
The Killing Hand - would nice to see it performed with the studio intro instead of Another Hand. Would be even cooler to see the WDADRU arrangement.
Another Won - Absolutely amazing song, it's a wonder it wasn't included on WDADU. Personally I think it should have replaced LFAGA.
Space-Dye Vest - Of course. It would be amazing live.
Cover My Eyes - Very underrated song from the FII demos, it would serve easily as the first "rocker" of a setlist.
Hell's Kitchen/Lines in the Sand - We usually tend to only get the latter, and when they did play HK, it wasn't with LITS. So I think they should be brought back together.
The Great Debate - The keyboard intro gave me chills when I listened to a live version of it. Really needs to return and not get kicked out like last time. :P
Octavarium - Would be a really great live experience. Could work as an encore well, although maybe not since I'm not sure if it holds enough fan favourite status.
Repentance - Extremely underrated, would work for a breather from heavier songs.
Wither (Piano version) - This would work well before a song like Disappear or Space-Dye Vest.
The Count of Tuscany - Since this song does hold a significant place as a fan favourite, it could also work as an encore, but it works better as a set closer.
Breaking All Illusions - It was played the hell out of on the last tour, but it's so amazing. The kind of abrupt beginning with no build-up to the keyboard/guitar melody makes it perfect for an encore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 28, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
Really hoping they finally bring back ACOS at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.

Just realised I haven't seen Home yet.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2013, 07:51:48 AM
Really hoping they finally bring back ACOS at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.

Just realised I haven't seen Home yet.

Woah!  You didn't see them with Maiden?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 28, 2013, 07:56:21 AM
Really hoping they finally bring back ACOS at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.

Just realised I haven't seen Home yet.

Woah!  You didn't see them with Maiden?

He's British! :ariich:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 28, 2013, 08:07:53 AM
Indeed I am. The only show I've ever considered travelling for was RCMH, but it ended up being too expensive.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Elite on January 28, 2013, 08:08:53 AM
I'll stick to DT songs (no covers)
These 10 songs are the only songs I have NOT seen DT play live yet  :( (not counting the new cd and of course, The Shattered Fortress or Best of Times which won't get played)

  1. Light Fuse and Get Away
  2. Only a Matter of Time
  3. Status Seeker
  4. Don't Look Past Me
  5. Space Dye Vest
  6. You Not Me (or the original You OR Me)
  7. Take Away My Pain
  8. Where Are You Now
  9. Wither
10. Raw Dog

Other songs I'd like to see (that I haven't seen much of)
YTSE JAM
The Mirror
A Change of Seasons :hefdaddy
Anna Lee
Overture 1928
Through Her Eyes
About to Crash (reprise)/Losing Time/Grand Finale
A Stream of Consciousness
In The Name of God
These Walls
In the Presence of Enemies, Pts. 1 & 2

Of course, I have favorites like everyone does, and if they get played that's cool, but all of the above songs are ones that in my 30+ DT shows I've seen much less than others.

Ha! I've seen one of your 10.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2013, 04:27:19 PM
Indeed I am. The only show I've ever considered travelling for was RCMH, but it ended up being too expensive.

hhhmmm... don't think I ever knew that.

:imonahorse:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 28, 2013, 04:38:15 PM
I'm not surprised really. It's not that obvious, and I don't exactly mention it much.

But all the best forum members are British.  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 28, 2013, 04:40:48 PM
But all the best forum members are British.  ;)

I am not British and where is your god queen now?  :censored
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 28, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
Fast asleep in Buck House I expect.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on January 28, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
I'm not surprised really. It's not that obvious, and I don't exactly mention it much.

But all the best British forum members are British.  ;)

Fixed for accuracy.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wolfking on January 29, 2013, 04:07:33 AM
The Glass Prison and This Dying Soul
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 29, 2013, 04:25:45 AM
The Glass Prison and This Dying Soul

Please, everything but those two!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 29, 2013, 05:27:37 AM
The Glass Prison and This Dying Soul

YES. YES.


It should be criminal how underplayed TGP is.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 29, 2013, 08:58:11 AM
It should be criminal how underplayed TGP is.
Agreed. It's just a true crowd pleaser.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on January 29, 2013, 10:37:04 AM
It should be criminal how underplayed TGP is.
Agreed. It's just a true crowd pleaser.
Its a great opener, either for the first set or the second set (for the future evening withs)!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 29, 2013, 01:15:44 PM
They occasionally opened both set of all the DT tours with the EW format with TGP. I think it's time to Meca-change  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Rattlehead on January 29, 2013, 04:47:21 PM
I could list tons of songs but one song in particular that I'd love to see them play live is Strange Deja Vu  :metal It's disappointing to me to say the least that the only song they like to play off of SFAM lately is TSCO, which I don't particularly care for.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 29, 2013, 05:18:50 PM
I could list tons of songs but one song in particular that I'd love to see them play live is Strange Deja Vu  :metal It's disappointing to me to say the least that the only song they like to play off of SFAM lately is TSCO, which I don't particularly care for.

They need some Home rotation. Of course, they did play TMW/FT in 2011.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Rattlehead on January 31, 2013, 10:20:16 AM
I could list tons of songs but one song in particular that I'd love to see them play live is Strange Deja Vu  :metal It's disappointing to me to say the least that the only song they like to play off of SFAM lately is TSCO, which I don't particularly care for.

They need some Home rotation

Totally agree with that. Love the Chrono Trigger avatar by the way  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lolzeez on January 31, 2013, 11:26:19 AM
I could list tons of songs but one song in particular that I'd love to see them play live is Strange Deja Vu  :metal It's disappointing to me to say the least that the only song they like to play off of SFAM lately is TSCO, which I don't particularly care for.

They need some Home rotation

Totally agree with that. Love the Chrono Trigger avatar by the way  :tup
Agreed.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on February 02, 2013, 06:43:38 PM
The Glass Prison and This Dying Soul
Yes please!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on February 03, 2013, 04:31:46 AM
Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy

Learning to Live
Trial of Tears
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 03, 2013, 04:37:35 AM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on February 03, 2013, 12:28:27 PM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
You'd have to survive. You can't enjoy the bootleg if you're dead! :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 03, 2013, 12:31:07 PM
Ahahaha, I suppose you are right, Tim!

I would so love to see them both!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on February 04, 2013, 04:14:26 AM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
At least you would know that from the moment you arrive :neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 04, 2013, 04:42:04 AM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
At least you would know that from the moment you arrive :neverusethis:

Not really, unless they carry on with unrotating setlists. :neverusethid:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on February 04, 2013, 01:16:26 PM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
At least you would know that from the moment you arrive :neverusethis:

Not really, unless they carry on with unrotating setlists. :neverusethid:

What is "thid"?


:neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on February 05, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
Learning to Live
Trial of Tears

Nah, it would be too much for me. I would not survive.
At least you would know that from the moment you arrive :neverusethis:

Not really, unless they carry on with unrotating setlists. :neverusethid:
...or if it's the opening night of the tour/leg. Speaking of that, on the previous tours Finland has always been the place where they play first on the European leg, so my first time seeing DT will be an exceptionally exciting one! :caffeine:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 05, 2013, 03:22:07 AM
This assuming they carry on with the trend.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on February 05, 2013, 07:52:16 PM

Another Won - Absolutely amazing song, it's a wonder it wasn't included on WDADU. Personally I think it should have replaced LFAGA. Because Charlie could not sing that high
Space-Dye Vest - Of course. It would be amazing live. AGREED
Cover My Eyes - Very underrated song from the FII demos, it would serve easily as the first "rocker" of a setlist.  AGREED, would love to be treated to this song live
Hell's Kitchen/Lines in the Sand - We usually tend to only get the latter, and when they did play HK, it wasn't with LITS. So I think they should be brought back together.  perhaps match HK with another classic epic, like Killing Hand.
The Great Debate - The keyboard intro gave me chills when I listened to a live version of it. Really needs to return and not get kicked out like last time. :P  not likely to come back in next tour rotation, if ever.
Octavarium - Would be a really great live experience. Could work as an encore well, although maybe not since I'm not sure if it holds enough fan favourite status.  Maybe lop off the first 10 minutes of the song (the slow, boring sections) to make it a more immediate experience.
Repentance - Extremely underrated, would work for a breather from heavier songs.  AGREED.
Wither (Piano version) - This would work well before a song like Disappear or Space-Dye Vest.  AGRRED. They MUST play this on the upcoming tour.
The Count of Tuscany - Since this song does hold a significant place as a fan favourite, it could also work as an encore, but it works better as a set closer. - meh - seen it twice and it kicks ass live but for my wish list I'd save that 25 minutes for other live opportunities.
Breaking All Illusions - It was played the hell out of on the last tour, but it's so amazing. The kind of abrupt beginning with no build-up to the keyboard/guitar melody makes it perfect for an encore. I'm sure they will have a new song on the album that will make a similar amazing closer, so I would opt for that.

My opinions in RED above.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Infinite Cactus on February 07, 2013, 08:56:05 AM
Just to add another to my list, I think it's time for Honor Thy Father to make a return. Even though it's personal for MP, I'd love to see it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on February 09, 2013, 04:30:53 PM
I think it could be safe to assume that for the Summer festivals tour they would bring back This Is The Life and Lost Not Forgotten seeing as they got the least appearances last time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 09, 2013, 04:57:34 PM
Yes, very likely. And I would't count off BAI to close the set or as the encore, either!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on February 09, 2013, 07:25:42 PM
Yes, very likely. And I would't count off BAI to close the set or as the encore, either!

I can see them (TITL and LNF) appearing in Canada during the 1st NA leg since they only played a festival here during the 2nd NA leg of the last tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 10, 2013, 12:29:41 AM
Yeah, I was shocked that they only did that petty abbreviated show in Montebello. I mean, it's Canada, the best country in the world, not Burkina Faso!  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on February 10, 2013, 02:22:02 PM
Yeah, I was shocked that they only did that petty abbreviated show in Montebello. I mean, it's Canada, the best country in the world, not Burkina Faso!  :laugh:

And the leg before that, we only got 4 shows. Vancouver, Toronto, Montreal, and Quebec City. That's just atrocious. They need to play at least a show in Calgary and another in the maritimes to somewhat cover the width of the country. Not that I'm complaining about the 3 shows in the same relative area at all, by the time the next NA leg comes around I'll be in Ottawa with a Montreal show coming my way. :caffeine:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on February 10, 2013, 03:30:25 PM
I hope the next Ottawa show will be as good as the one they did in the ToT tour. That's actually something I should wish to any DT show, everywhere! :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on February 10, 2013, 05:25:01 PM
I hope the next Ottawa show will be as good as the one they did in the ToT tour. That's actually something I should wish to any DT show, everywhere! :D

That would be even more amazing if they came directly to Ottawa, let's hope they do since they didn't last time. And I kinda want to hear that show now :3 I heard the Toronto one from March 25rd 2004, which my cousin went to. It was an amazing show, better than LAB for sure.

EDIT: I'm retarded, not only was it not March 23rd, but it's also not 2004. XD
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on May 08, 2013, 05:26:56 PM
Ottawa is just on my list of places to visit one day, a DT concert would be cool too
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on May 11, 2013, 08:13:49 AM
Note: LONG setlist, it would never happen.

Set 1: The Dark Side

On the Backs of Angels
Panic Attack
War Inside My Head/The Test That Stumped Them All
Disappear
As I Am
The Dance of Eternity/Drum Solo
Fatal Tragedy
Vacant

Set 2: The Light Side

Stream of Consciousness
Trial of Tears
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Under A Glass Moon
These Walls
Outcry
The Spirit Carries On

Encore:
Hell's Kitchen
The Count of Tuscany
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on May 30, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
Not really a song, but I hope they use Dream is Collapsing as the intro tape again. So epic.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 20, 2013, 02:41:38 AM
I have a strong feeling LSOAD will make a comeback this tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 20, 2013, 02:55:14 AM
I have a strong feeling LSOAD will make a comeback this tour.

My feeling too. It's been gathering dust since 2002. The time has come.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 20, 2013, 03:42:34 AM
Funnily enough, I have that feeling as well :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: adastra on June 20, 2013, 06:18:48 AM
I hope they'll play at least:

Just Let Me Breathe
New Millenium
Strange Deja Vu
Finally Free
Disappear
Vacant / Stream Of Consciousness


 :yarr
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: DebraKadabra on June 20, 2013, 11:12:30 PM
I wouldn't mind Strange Deja vu being thrown back in - something tells me that James would nail it even more than he did when I saw DT play it live in 2007.  Plus, I love that song anyway. :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 21, 2013, 06:20:52 AM
Well, SDV2 could happen, but I wasn't convinced by it the few times (2002) it was played without O1928, and I don't really see that one coming, we already have two instrumental songs on the new album, those should be enough for the set.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 21, 2013, 06:55:19 AM
I saw it in 2007 (this show (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2007/wembley-arena-london-england-33d6d0e5.html)) and I have to say it worked quite well on its own. Having said that, I don't see them bringing it back this time round.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 21, 2013, 06:56:46 AM
I don't know... it could happen, but I think this time we'll see Through Her Eyes and Finally Free (the latter if they decide to play a double set). from SFAM.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 21, 2013, 06:57:51 AM
I'd be (pleasantly) surprised if Through Her Eyes was played. Finally Free is definitely due a comeback though. Perhaps Home as well.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 21, 2013, 07:00:40 AM
Home is a bit too long I think, and it was last played in 2010. I would bring back Trial Of Tears of Blind Faith instead, for the same amount of minutes.

Do you think they will bring back a song from WDADU again? If so, I'm hoping for TKH, and it should really be due time.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 21, 2013, 07:30:32 AM
If they do, I think Afterlife is most likely, despite it being played relatively recently.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 21, 2013, 07:34:50 AM
I think OMAOT is possible as well, although maybe not as likely as Afterlife or TKH.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 21, 2013, 07:36:38 AM
Perhaps, though for some reason (and this is probably based on nothing at all) I get the impression that JLB doesn't like singing that one.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 21, 2013, 07:41:38 AM
I like the song, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was true :lol Anyway, I think the only WDADU songs that we can be completely sure about never getting played again are Status Seeker, LF&GA and (sadly) TOWHTSTS.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 21, 2013, 06:30:00 PM
I want to see MM play The Dance of Eternity.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 22, 2013, 01:03:45 AM
May I ask what you guys are basing ANY of this on? :lol sorry.. I also really want to see the Killing Hand. And LTFAGA, and TOWHTSTS!!!!! Why are those impossible?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 22, 2013, 02:49:23 AM
WD&DU is a pretty obscure album already and those 3 are the least popular songs on the record. I mean, if the band thought The Great Debate didn't get much of a reaction from the audiences on the ADTOE tour, then it's pretty unlikely that they would play a song that appears on an album not a lot of people are familiar with, and hasn't even appeared on a live album. I'd love to hear Status Seeker or The Ones..., but I'd be happy enough with one of the more popular tunes like Afterlife or TKH.

Edit: Light Fuse... wasn't even played more than once or twice on the I&W tour (Marco, can you confirm this? I can't check the tourography right now), so it won't become a live staple overnight.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 22, 2013, 11:14:49 AM
The Killing Hand definitely isn't one of the least popular songs on the album. I'd say Status Seeker is.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on June 24, 2013, 02:57:50 AM
I hope they'll play The Glass Prison or In The Name Of God again. That would be kickass  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 24, 2013, 07:59:30 AM
If I'm lucky, I MIGHT be able to go to a DT concert if they come to Houston before fall of 2014.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 25, 2013, 02:09:06 PM
I'm gonna stick my neck on the line here with this prediction/hope:

Setlist A:
1. The Glass Prison
2. Strange Deja Vu
3. Afterlife
4. Panic Attack
5. This is the Life
6. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
7. Take the Time
8. In the Name of God
=================
9. Dream Theater
----------------------------------
10. A Change of Seasons

Setlist B:
1. In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 1
2. Under A Glass Moon
3. Blind Faith
4. Wither
5. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
6. The Dance of Eternity
7. Only a Matter of Time
8. Vacant
9. Breaking All Illusions
=================
10. Dream Theater
----------------------------------
11. Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 25, 2013, 02:13:06 PM
Two songs from the new album?

 :huh:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 25, 2013, 02:16:24 PM
You misunderstand, the entire second set would be the new album in full.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 25, 2013, 02:17:24 PM
You misunderstand, the entire second set would be the new album in full.

OHHHH I get it now.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 25, 2013, 02:24:33 PM
I think it's more likely for them to open with the new album. It makes sense to show the novelity first, instead of holding it back for one hour or more. Not-as-well-as-we-are informed people would say: "the new album is great, why are they not playing it?"
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 25, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
Perhaps, but I'm thinking WWRD. They did most of Clockwork Angels in their second set.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 25, 2013, 02:32:20 PM
I think I'll go ahead and make a predicted setlist with DT12 in its entirety as well. It's safe to say that once the album is out and we familiarize ourselves with it, the setlist predictions will get even crazier.

1. Metropolis Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
2. Overture 1928
---mandatory JLB intro speech---
3. The Mirror (+ reprise)
4. Blind Faith
5. Wither
6. Through Her Eyes (alternate mix version)
7. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
8. Misunderstood
---intermission---
9-17. Dream Theater
---encore---
18. Breaking All Illusions

Assuming DT12 will be ~75 minutes long, this works out to a 2.5 hour concert, which the band could definitely do especially with a short break.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 25, 2013, 02:38:22 PM
I just heard TOWHtStS.

Holy shit the intro.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 25, 2013, 02:43:34 PM
Perhaps, but I'm thinking WWRD. They did most of Clockwork Angels in their second set.

We still have to see if Dream Theater is coherent enough to demand a full start to finish performance, at least for this tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 26, 2013, 02:00:03 AM
Do you guys think there will be any rotation in the setlist now that we know the tour will be An Evening with DT? I bet they'll keep the same setlist throughout the tour, because there will already be quite a lot of material to learn, and last year JP said having a static setlist helps them perfect the performances. However, I could also see them having an A setlist and a B setlist with a few different songs, similar to the ADTOE tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 26, 2013, 02:01:56 AM
Yep. Seeing that it's most likely that one set will be very static, I can definitely see the second set having three or more different songs played from one night to another. And the encores too, of course. :)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Curious Orange on June 26, 2013, 03:53:33 AM
I hope they play -

The Glass Prison
Home
Anything from BC&SL
Something from 8VM
Something from FII


Wither, Sacrificed Sons and New Millennium would be good.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on June 26, 2013, 02:15:06 PM
I would be absolutely ecstatic if they put octavarium and in the name of god back on the setlist.
It was this video that got me hooked onto DT about 2 ago  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8Y_W0KIC7o so to see/hear them play it live would be beyond awesome :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Marion Crane on June 26, 2013, 02:21:29 PM
I think we'll still see quite a bit of ADOTE in the set, especially since most of it is lower and easier for James to sing for such a long show.  I think it's pretty much a lock that OTBOA/BITS and BAL will be in the set
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on June 26, 2013, 03:02:37 PM
I want them to play Sacrificed Sons again.
I know they played it in 2009, but I love it. The first part, when complimented with live projection will make me tear up in a good way, then the rest of it is amazing.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 26, 2013, 03:15:39 PM
Now that an Evening With show is more or less evidenced, at least your Europe, I want to rectify my setlist to add another .4 of an hour to fit that type of show:

1. Metropolis Pt. 1
2. Overture 1928
3. Cover My Eyes
---JLB speech---
4. The Mirror (w/ reprise)
5. Wither
6. Through Her Eyes (alternate mix version)
7. Hell's Kitchen
8. Lines in the Sand
9. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
10. Misunderstood
11. The Count of Tuscany
---intermission---
12-20. Dream Theater
---encore---
21. Breaking All Illusions

Now THAT'S a setlist. I also created another case where DT12 is played at the beginning of show. I would make another where the whole album isn't played, but showcases some songs, but I don't know the songs yet. :P

1-9. Dream Theater
10. The Count of Tuscany
---intermission---
11. Metropolis Pt. 1
12. Overture 1928
13. Cover My Eyes
---JLB speech---
14. The Mirror (w/ reprise)
15. Wither
16. Through Her Eyes (alternate mix version)
17. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun
18. Misunderstood
19. Hell's Kitchen
20. Lines in the Sand
---encore---
21. Breaking All Illusions
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 26, 2013, 03:25:25 PM
I could live with both, but please, kick TOWH out and make some room for The Killing Hand  :loser:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 26, 2013, 03:43:33 PM
I could live with both, but please, kick TOWH out and make some room for The Killing Hand  :loser:

That could work too! Preferably with the original intro because of the build-up, same with why TWOH is there.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mallorier on June 26, 2013, 04:59:27 PM
Oh man...this thread appeals to my list making interests :biggrin:. Hope you all don't mind one more person contributing some speculation based on absolutely nothing :lol...to clarify, this is really more of a wish than an actual prediction. This was also created just assuming DT12/ST/That-(Maybe)-Purple-Album will be played in it's entirety, and with me in agreement that it would feel the most natural being played first.

Setlist A
Dream Theater
-intermission-
Lost Not Forgotten
Take The Time
The Mirror/Reprise
Misunderstood
Voices
Wither
Finally Free
The Glass Prison
-encore-
A Change of Seasons

Setlist B
Dream Theater
-intermission-
A Nightmare To Remember
Only A Matter Of Time
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
Through Her Eyes
Home
Lifting Shadow's Off A Dream
In The Name Of God
-encore-
Octavarium

Kind of long (Clocking in shy of an hour and forty five minutes each if I'm doing my math correctly :huh:), so probably pretty unlikely. Having said that, however, I would die happy if I could see them live.

P.S: Sorry SC...maybe next time ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 26, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
I don't think they'll play Nightmare without MP, unless they play the version with JLB's more melodic vocals. And I don't see TGP as a set closer. Apart from that, I reckon everything else is pretty plausible.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mallorier on June 26, 2013, 05:49:00 PM
I don't think they'll play Nightmare without MP, unless they play the version with JLB's more melodic vocals.
This is actually something I'm really, really hoping for...I would love to hear what JP originally had in mind. I can also agree that TGP is perhaps not the strongest of closers, but...well darn it I would just love to see Finally Free leading straight into it live, and they just didn't seem right to me when placed earlier in the set. C'est la vie...a girl can dream, right? :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 26, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
I don't think they'll play Nightmare without MP, unless they play the version with JLB's more melodic vocals.
This is actually something I'm really, really hoping for...I would love to hear what JP originally had in mind. I can also agree that TGP is perhaps not the strongest of closers, but...well darn it I would just love to see Finally Free leading straight into it live, and they just didn't seem right to me when placed earlier in the set. C'est la vie...a girl can dream, right? :lol

I see you took some of my song ideas. ;)


Which is good, because I think they were good song choices. :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 26, 2013, 08:35:51 PM
I have a really strong feeling TGP will be back, possibly preceded by Finally Free. I could also see Trial of Tears and SOC making a return - the latter could give James' voice some rest.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mallorier on June 26, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
I see you took some of my song ideas. ;)


Which is good, because I think they were good song choices. :lol

Hells yeah, man! :metal Wither, The Mirror, and Misunderstood in particular are very high on my list of songs that I am dying to see live. I'd also love to see FII get some more love this time around (I tried to fit JLMB into one of my sets but it just didn't quite make the cut). I'd actually be a pretty happy camper if your prediction was correct...the only thing that would be somewhat of a let down for me would be ending with TCOT and BAI. This isn't because they wouldn't be an incredibly epic way to close a show (they most definitely would be), but because I've seen them both live already and there are other epics that I love just as much that I haven't seen live yet (keeping my fingers crossed for Octavarium to make an appearance).

...speculation is fun! :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 26, 2013, 09:06:10 PM
Speculation is almost always fun! The only it wouldn't be fun is if you wanted them to play Learning to Live for example and instead they played You Not Me. XD
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mellotron_scratch on June 27, 2013, 03:25:56 AM
Speculation is almost always fun! The only it wouldn't be fun is if you wanted them to play Learning to Live for example and instead they played You Not Me. XD

Don't even joke about them playing that song  :tdwn

Anyway, I hope they bring The Count of Tuscany back, that would be awesome. If that isn't in the set, and neither is Wither, then I highly doubt we'll get anything from BC&SL.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on June 27, 2013, 03:28:55 AM
I don't think they'll play The Count of Tuscany, in Europe at least, because they played it on the last tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on June 27, 2013, 04:27:12 AM
Anyway, I hope they bring The Count of Tuscany back, that would be awesome. If that isn't in the set, and neither is Wither, then I highly doubt we'll get anything from BC&SL.

I think you might be right. TCOT would be awesome, but I'd say 8VM or ACOS (even though I don't love this song as much as most people do) would be even more phenomenal and more probable.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 27, 2013, 04:30:58 AM
I for one would love if they ditched the huge epics again to make room for more short epics like BAI, LTL, TKH, Scarred, BF, ToT, SOC. Imagine having even half of them in a single show! Well worth an ACOS!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on June 27, 2013, 04:54:49 AM
I for one would love if they ditched the huge epics again to make room for more short epics like BAI, LTL, TKH, Scarred, BF, ToT, SOC. Imagine having even half of them in a single show! Well worth an ACOS!
I agree with that.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 27, 2013, 05:08:13 AM
Unfortunately I don't think LTL will be played, because in 2011 he James said he couldn't hit the F#5 every night. And now that the shows will be "evening with"... :(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 27, 2013, 07:06:38 AM
Well, they'll rotate the harder songs.


Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 27, 2013, 08:35:37 AM
Unfortunately I don't think LTL will be played, because in 2011 he James said he couldn't hit the F#5 every night. And now that the shows will be "evening with"... :(

Well that means they probably won't be playing Octavarium then.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 27, 2013, 08:39:42 AM
The scream of Octavarium is much easier than the LTL F#. For starters, it's a scream, and James has been hitting notes of that kind almost effortlessy since the beginning of 2012.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 27, 2013, 08:45:14 AM
I hope they'll play ACOS instead of wasting their time with Octavarium, but it's true that 8V is easier for James than LTL.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on June 27, 2013, 09:06:35 AM
Meh, ACOS.  :mehlin

That song still hasn't grown on me. I've listened to it like 3 times, but it always feels like a chore to sit through.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 27, 2013, 09:15:46 AM
Well, I just hope they won't play ITPOE from start to finish :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mallorier on June 27, 2013, 09:29:25 AM
Speculation is almost always fun! The only it wouldn't be fun is if you wanted them to play Learning to Live for example and instead they played You Not Me. XD

Hahaha! Yeah...I probably would be a little burnt in that situation. However...it would be nice in one regard: It seems that there is at least a very small number of fans for every DT song out there, even the more generally unpopular ones. So if You Not Me came on, I would personally be like "Ehhhh...", but I would also smile a little on the inside knowing that somewhere in the theater, there is at least one super stoked You Not Me fan who just had their dreams come true :lol

Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.

You know, when I was first getting into Awake, I heard SDV and was all "What the crap is this?" and just couldn't appreciate. But then about nine months ago I gave it another chance...I'm not sure what changed on my end, but I must admit: I have totally changed sides. It's not your typical DT song, but that just kind of adds to it specialness for me. I hope you are right, MoraWintersoul...SDV would be a very welcome surprise on the next tour!

I hope they'll play ACOS Octavarium instead of wasting their time with Octavaium ACOS, but it's true that 8V is easier for James than LTL.
FTFM :lol Jk, I wouldn't consider either of those songs a "waste of time", but if only one were to make an appearance I would have to root for Octavarium. I :heart that song like crazy!


Imagine having even half of them in a single show! Well worth an ACOS!

Hmm...worth an ACOS, yes, but for me personally I'd still root for 8vm :biggrin:. But oh man...Blind Faith and Stream of Consciousness would be soooo sick :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 27, 2013, 09:41:44 AM
Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.

You know, when I was first getting into Awake, I heard SDV and was all "What the crap is this?" and just couldn't appreciate. But then about nine months ago I gave it another chance...I'm not sure what changed on my end, but I must admit: I have totally changed sides. It's not your typical DT song, but that just kind of adds to it specialness for me. I hope you are right, MoraWintersoul...SDV would be a very welcome surprise on the next tour!
Glad to hear another person likes the song, since it's basically my fave song of all time: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=35969.msg1533419#msg1533419
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mallorier on June 27, 2013, 09:53:00 AM
Aaaaah! Yes! I remember that top 50 (longtime lurker, just started actually posting pretty recently lol)! I especially like this little sentiment at the end of your SDV write up:

The MAIN reason, however, that SDV is my favorite song, is (I'll put it quite vaguely because it's not something that is really clear to me most of the time, and when it becomes clear, I feel inept to find the right words to share it with everyone) that the song pretty much sounds like it's the end of the world. But we know it wasn't, that there is no one in the world who was forever closed after declaring they'd never be open again, that life goes on and so do the people in it. I find that thought quite comforting.

True dat, lady...very comforting indeed! Well you've got another supporter here :biggrin:! SDV 2014 here we come :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 27, 2013, 09:55:44 AM
Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.

You would post this. :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 27, 2013, 10:33:27 AM
Aaaaah! Yes! I remember that top 50 (longtime lurker, just started actually posting pretty recently lol)! I especially like this little sentiment at the end of your SDV write up:

The MAIN reason, however, that SDV is my favorite song, is (I'll put it quite vaguely because it's not something that is really clear to me most of the time, and when it becomes clear, I feel inept to find the right words to share it with everyone) that the song pretty much sounds like it's the end of the world. But we know it wasn't, that there is no one in the world who was forever closed after declaring they'd never be open again, that life goes on and so do the people in it. I find that thought quite comforting.

True dat, lady...very comforting indeed! Well you've got another supporter here :biggrin:! SDV 2014 here we come :metal
You read my top 50 while you were lurking? :eek :'( :heart
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9myhzJwtM1qbqjqvo2_250.gif)

Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.

You would post this. :biggrin:
No, I DID post this :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 27, 2013, 10:34:55 AM
No, I DID post this :P

Semantics, young lady. :hat
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on June 27, 2013, 10:43:59 PM
Also. Space-Dye Vest. I'm calling it.

:caffeine:

That would be absolutely perfect, but honestly, I doubt they will ever play SDV.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Marion Crane on June 28, 2013, 10:38:37 AM
Well, I just hope they won't play ITPOE from start to finish :D

I'd rather hear ITPOE over 8VM ANYDAY
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 28, 2013, 11:12:21 AM
I'd rather not hear either, but if I have to choose, 8V any day of the week :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on June 28, 2013, 11:17:15 AM
I'm not sure which one I'd like more... ITPOE Part 1 beats any part of Octavarium, but Octavarium might be the better live song overall - I might even start to like it more, although I kind of doubt it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on June 28, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
Octavarium beats pretty much every other song they have done. Maybe Metropolis is on par, but other than that I WOULD PAY 40€ ONLY TO SEE OCTAVARIUM PLAYED LIVE.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 01:28:09 AM
I made this a while ago for a summer show before the album comes out. THIS WOULD BE INCREDIBLE-

Bridges in the Sky
Blind Faith
Take the Time
---
On the Backs of Angels
Innocence Faded
Innocence/
Carpe Diem/       (diggi diggi diggi di dah PLEASE DONT GO- strait into the Killing Hand riff on the downbeat, no acoustic intro)
The Killing Hand (NOT the Christmas edition)
---
Forsaken
Light Fuse and Get Away
---
Far From Heaven (acoustic)
Anna Lee (acoustic)
Build Me Up break me down
Stream of Consciousness
Octavarium

Breaking All Illusions



probably just over 2 hours.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on June 29, 2013, 01:44:09 AM
Octavarium beats pretty much every other song they have done. Maybe Metropolis is on par, but other than that I WOULD PAY 40€ ONLY TO SEE OCTAVARIUM PLAYED LIVE.
I agree. I would travel to any part of the world to see them play octavarium. It was the song that got me hooked on DT, so I pray that I at least once get to see them play it
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 29, 2013, 01:48:43 AM
Well, you cover the world quite effectively, so I guess the time will come for your wish to come true. It could happen this forthcoming tour, I guess. There is a possibility.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 02:11:17 AM
I really really really really really really really really really want Octavarium, In the Presence of Enemies, and A Change of Seasons to continue to be played live throughout the years as much as all the regularly-sized songs are. Octavarium is most due on this tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on June 29, 2013, 02:35:00 AM
I made this a while ago for a summer show before the album comes out. THIS WOULD BE INCREDIBLE-

Bridges in the Sky
Blind Faith
Take the Time
---
On the Backs of Angels
Innocence Faded
Innocence/
Carpe Diem/       (diggi diggi diggi di dah PLEASE DONT GO- strait into the Killing Hand riff on the downbeat, no acoustic intro)
The Killing Hand (NOT the Christmas edition)
---
Forsaken
Light Fuse and Get Away
---
Far From Heaven (acoustic)
Anna Lee (acoustic)
Build Me Up break me down
Stream of Consciousness
Octavarium

Breaking All Illusions



probably just over 2 hours.

Great setlist, but I think they would at least play one song/the single from DT12 just as they did with OTBOA in 2011.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 29, 2013, 08:48:54 AM
I made this a while ago for a summer show before the album comes out. THIS WOULD BE INCREDIBLE-

Bridges in the Sky
Blind Faith
Take the Time
---
On the Backs of Angels
Innocence Faded
Innocence/
Carpe Diem/       (diggi diggi diggi di dah PLEASE DONT GO- strait into the Killing Hand riff on the downbeat, no acoustic intro)
The Killing Hand (NOT the Christmas edition)
---
Forsaken
Light Fuse and Get Away
---
Far From Heaven (acoustic)
Anna Lee (acoustic)
Build Me Up break me down
Stream of Consciousness
Octavarium

Breaking All Illusions



probably just over 2 hours.


I like this idea...


also...

Y U NO LIKE THE CHRISTMAS HAND?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on June 29, 2013, 09:39:17 AM
Christmas Hand is almost #10 for me! I love it to death! :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 29, 2013, 10:12:10 AM
Because WHAT THE HELL does a fast pace song about a guy going back in time and slaying himself have to do with the nice Christmas spirity mood of by far the most obnoxious Christmas Carol?? And not only that, but make it into a total run-on jam in the most climatic part of the song that ruins the flow.

Now if only I could make one of my beautiful metaphors like on page 166 of the DT in the studio thread..  haha

...and that was today's rant  :lol

Great setlist, but I think they would at least play one song/the single from DT12 just as they did with OTBOA in 2011.

True, thanks. I made another one where I put "New Song" in one place, but it wasn't as good as this set.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on June 30, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
What do we think the odds are that they will be rotating the setlists on the first leg of this tour? I was considering going to Wembley then Wolverhampton but on the first leg of the 2011 tour the setlist was identical. I don't really want to go to see the exact same songs twice :/
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 12:09:05 PM
I think because it's evening with, that they will make a different set every night, but out of the same 26 or so songs. Not just A and B set. At least that's what I'm hoping.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 12:10:35 PM
and if I were you I'd take my chances and go to both.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: KevShmev on June 30, 2013, 12:10:51 PM
What do we think the odds are that they will be rotating the setlists on the first leg of this tour? I was considering going to Wembley then Wolverhampton but on the first leg of the 2011 tour the setlist was identical. I don't really want to go to see the exact same songs twice :/

I will never get this line of thinking.  So many times, I have left a great concert marveling about how awesome it was, but a little sad that it was over.  And somehow seeing the exact same concert would be a bad thing?  Sure. :lol :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 30, 2013, 12:12:27 PM
I think because it's evening with, that they will make a different set every night, but out of the same 26 or so songs. Not just A and B set. At least that's what I'm hoping.

If they do an A and B set, or maybe even A B and C, there could be at least a good amount of variation. It's good if they do have regular songs so they get top-notch performances like on the ADTOE tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on June 30, 2013, 12:15:16 PM
Well my figuring is what if for the A set the close with ACOS and B close with Octavarium? I would cry!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on June 30, 2013, 12:16:16 PM
I doubt they would want to rotate any songs of that caliber. Maybe for the first half of the tour ACOS is played, and 8VM the second half, but not switching them back an forth throughout the tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 12:59:03 PM
It's funny that ever since even before I joined the forums I was having the EXACT same thoughts for this tour about 8vm and ACOS you two just wrote. Like word for word.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 12:59:40 PM
Then next tour bring back ITPOE
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2013, 05:35:55 PM
Christmas Hand is almost #10 for me! I love it to death! :D

What the hell is the Christmas Hand? I need to hear this now.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on June 30, 2013, 09:09:48 PM
It's the version that they've played every single time except for the Images and Words tour and earlier. They play Carol of the Bells in the middle of it and it totally ruins the flow, and it's one of DT's worst jams (actually one of the VERY FEW bad DT jams), but everyone think it's incredible for some reason.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: tuto on July 07, 2013, 08:49:11 PM
I can REALLY see (and hope) Octavarium and Stream of Consciousness making a return
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on July 08, 2013, 05:42:21 AM
I'm hoping for one or more of The Mirror (& Lie), Blind Faith, The Glass Prison, Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 08, 2013, 09:41:05 AM
I'm hoping for one or more of The Mirror (& Lie), Blind Faith, The Glass Prison, Octavarium

That would be amazing!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on July 09, 2013, 04:37:43 PM
Not really a prediction; more like a wishlist setlist.

False Awakening Suite
   i. Sleep Paralysis
   ii. Night Terrors
   iii. Lucid Dream
Along For the Ride
---
Blind Faith
This Dying Soul
Surrender to Reason
Another Day
Enigma Machine
The Enemy Inside
---
Build me Up Break me Down
Innocence Faded
Through My Words/ Fatal Tragedy

---intermission---

Outcry
---
The Looking Glass
The Killing Hand (NOT the Christmas edition)
---
Far From Heaven (Acoustic)
Behind the Veil (Acoustic)
Octavarium

encore:
Illumination Theory
i. Paradoxe de la Lumière Noire
ii. Live, Die, Kill
iii. The Embracing Circle
iv. The Pursuit of Truth
v. Surrender, Trust & Passion
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on July 10, 2013, 03:53:47 AM
I pray that I get to see Metropolis this time around. I hope they keep it as an Encore!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 10, 2013, 03:39:37 PM
Not really a prediction; more like a wishlist setlist.

False Awakening Suite
   i. Sleep Paralysis
   ii. Night Terrors
   iii. Lucid Dream
Along For the Ride
---
Blind Faith
This Dying Soul
Surrender to Reason
Another Day
Enigma Machine
The Enemy Inside
---
Build me Up Break me Down
Scarred
Finally Free

---intermission---

Outcry
---
The Looking Glass
The Killing Hand (NOT the Christmas edition)
---
Beneath The Surface (Acoustic)
Behind the Veil (Acoustic)
Breaking All Illusions
encore:
Illumination Theory
i. Paradoxe de la Lumière Noire
ii. Live, Die, Kill
iii. The Embracing Circle
iv. The Pursuit of Truth
v. Surrender, Trust & Passion


Combo of what I'd rather see and what I can foresee happening
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on July 10, 2013, 04:11:58 PM
They should bring Eve back.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 10, 2013, 04:13:41 PM
They should bring Eve back.

Welcome to the family.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on July 10, 2013, 05:08:41 PM
I would LOVE Scarred and Finally Free!! Absolutely anything from Awake as long as it's not edited and it should not be 6:00 or CIAW just because they did those last tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 11, 2013, 12:12:09 AM
They should bring Eve back.
Quoted for absolute agreement.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on July 11, 2013, 02:21:09 AM
They should bring Eve back.
Quoted for absolute agreement.
Awesome but unlikely.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 11, 2013, 04:01:39 AM
I believe that the main obstacle for Eve is that the song hasn't been played in 15 years, and has since been probably semi-forgotten by the band, not a particular obstacle like with ACOS, that's too long or SDV, that's supposedly too personal.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 11, 2013, 04:30:16 AM
To be honest I don't think they'll ever play Eve again, which is something that makes me a crestfallen panda :sadpanda:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on July 11, 2013, 08:53:30 AM
I believe that the main obstacle for Eve is that the song hasn't been played in 15 years, and has since been probably semi-forgotten by the band, not a particular obstacle like with ACOS, that's too long or SDV, that's supposedly too personal.

Maybe then a valid question for the M&G. But i don't think i'll hear it live again. :'(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on July 14, 2013, 04:09:03 PM
We don't know if Behind the Veil is a ballad, lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on July 14, 2013, 08:45:56 PM
We don't know if Behind the Veil is a ballad, lol
:lol
That's what I thought at first when I saw it was acoustic. Behind the Veil turns out to be a balls to the wall, all out aural assault.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on July 14, 2013, 11:05:15 PM
I was just making a guess, as with all the other songs. I imagined what I thought they might feel like and that's how I placed them where I did.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: SystematicThought on July 15, 2013, 12:39:43 AM
Well, it wouldn't surprise me if Behind The Veil was an acoustic number.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 15, 2013, 05:13:45 AM
Well, it wouldn't surprise me if Behind The Veil was an acoustic number.
"Tired bones beneath the veil"

OMG Behind the Veil is Beneath the Surface 2!!!  :omg:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 15, 2013, 05:24:59 AM
I just imagined how awesome it would be if they brought Raise The Knife or Anna Lee (recently fell in love with this song) / Trial Of Tears back into the set :caffeine:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 15, 2013, 06:05:48 AM
I don't care for Raise The Knife, but ToT's been absent for far too long. Time to bring it back, band!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 15, 2013, 06:28:07 AM
I always thought the version of RTK from the FII demos was pretty good, but since I listened to Score for the first time about a month ago I can't get enough of the song.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 15, 2013, 07:13:54 AM
I don't care for Raise The Knife, but ToT's been absent for far too long. Time to bring it back, band!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on July 16, 2013, 11:54:10 AM
The song I would love to hear is the Shattered Fortress simply because it rocks and I love the keyboard solo.  Since I know they will never play it(not sure they ever played TSF), I would settle for Lines in the Sand.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Voices on July 16, 2013, 05:07:14 PM
1) Blind Faith would be great, because CIM's version isn't good for such a wonderful song.

2) I really want to see Lifting Shadows Off A Dream...love that song!

3) Trial Of Tears (even though the Budokan's version is very nice, I want to see Mangini playing this one!)

4) And Home (because the last time I saw videos of it on youtube, MP always speeds up the song...I don't like that  :yeahright)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: matte.braso on July 17, 2013, 11:09:15 AM
I want Instrumedley....including the new instrumental :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 17, 2013, 11:14:45 AM
I'd rather have full songs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 17, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
Luckily it's probable that we'll only get full songs :) Besides, I bet the band would rather play the new instrumental in full than a snippet of it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 17, 2013, 11:28:54 AM
The Mirror
Space-Dye Vest
Hollow Years
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears
Raise The Knife
Anything From SFAM
The Glass Prison
Stream Of Consciousness
In The Name Of God
These Walls
I Walk Beside You
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium
A Nightmare To Remember
The Count Of Tuscany

They should really bring some of these back.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 17, 2013, 12:00:04 PM
These Walls is very unlikely due to the fact that it was played on the ADTOE tour, but we'll see about the rest...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 17, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
Ah okay, didn't know that. I wanted to list songs that were not played on that tour. Edited my original post :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on July 17, 2013, 03:06:04 PM
They should bring Eve back.

Welcome to the family.
We love you very very much.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on July 17, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
If Octavarium is played I'm probably going to strangle a ticket out of my father
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on July 19, 2013, 05:53:21 PM
My friend just made this one but no new songs-


On the Backs of Angels
Innocence Faded/Lie
--
Constant Motion
Voices
In the Name of God/Stream of Consciousness
--
Far From Heaven/Anna Lee
Beneath the Suface/Wait for Sleep
Take The Time/The Shattered Fortress
-Intermission-

In the Presence of Enemies Part 1
Blind Faith
Home
The Killing Hand
Outcry
--
Another Won
Forsaken
Lost Not Forgotten/Bridges in the Sky
--
Surrounded/ Solitary Shell
Scarred
In the Presence of Enemies Part 2

Pull Me Under
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on July 23, 2013, 02:43:25 AM
So on the upcoming tour I think we can safely assume that at least ONE song from Images and Words will be played. Now, I was thinking that the only song from IAW that didnt get played on the Dramatic Tour was Take The Time. So could we see it this time around?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 23, 2013, 02:49:49 AM
So on the upcoming tour I think we can safely assume that at least ONE song from Images and Words will be played. Now, I was thinking that the only song from IAW that didnt get played on the Dramatic Tour was Take The Time. So could we see it this time around?

That's my line of thought too! But with a caveat: Metropolis is too big, beloved and anthemic song for the band to leave it completely out of the picture for an entire tour cycle (so far it only happened once, in 2002). Plus, the song was played only a handful of times in Europe, and never during the main tour in promotion of ADTOE. I would say it's not unlikely for it to make an appearance in the early stages of the tour.

The other two songs that got a small stage time last time (and generally in the last 7 years) are LTL and Another Day. They could make a return, but I don't see that happening for the only reason that songs as vocally challanging as they are may not be a great idea to preserve James's voice intact for a full world tour of 2,5/3h shows.

So, Take The Time is the most reasonable option, yes.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 23, 2013, 02:54:01 AM
The other two songs that got a small stage time last time (and generally in the last 7 years) are LTL and Another Day. They could make a return, but I don't see that happening for the only reason that songs as vocally challanging as they are may not be a great idea to preserve James's voice intact for a full world tour of 2,5/3h shows.
Actually this made me think: DT are going to play long shows and there may be even 3 or 4 dates in a row with no off-dates in between, so I wonder if they'll play some song(s) in a lower key or tuning for the sake of James' voice...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 23, 2013, 02:58:23 AM
I don't think they will. They will likely come up with a well though out setlist revolving around James, with a few hard songs well dispersed among a sea of easier songs or instrumental breaks. Their catalogue is vast enough to allow them to do so without compromising at all the quality of the show. Hell, that's what they have done with ADTOE and that's also why James reached the DVD shooting at full power! They will surely do that again!  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 23, 2013, 03:01:52 AM
Well, I'll trust your instinct :D However, James has had a long career and his voice has gone through a lot, so I wouldn't blame him at all if they were forced to transpose songs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 23, 2013, 03:20:20 AM
So on the upcoming tour I think we can safely assume that at least ONE song from Images and Words will be played. Now, I was thinking that the only song from IAW that didnt get played on the Dramatic Tour was Take The Time. So could we see it this time around?

That's my line of thought too! But with a caveat: Metropolis is too big, beloved and anthemic song for the band to leave it completely out of the picture for an entire tour cycle (so far it only happened once, in 2002). Plus, the song was played only a handful of times in Europe, and never during the main tour in promotion of ADTOE. I would say it's not unlikely for it to make an appearance in the early stages of the tour.

The other two songs that got a small stage time last time (and generally in the last 7 years) are LTL and Another Day. They could make a return, but I don't see that happening for the only reason that songs as vocally challanging as they are may not be a great idea to preserve James's voice intact for a full world tour of 2,5/3h shows.

So, Take The Time is the most reasonable option, yes.

I agree that Take the Time is likely to make a comeback, but I'm not sure it's actually any easier to sing than LtL. If anything, there are longer, more difficult passages. I just hope they don't cut out any sections like they did when it was last played - I think that was an MP decision, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 23, 2013, 04:44:23 AM
Metropolis is too big, beloved and anthemic song for the band to leave it completely out of the picture for an entire tour cycle (so far it only happened once, in 2002). Plus, the song was played only a handful of times in Europe, and never during the main tour in promotion of ADTOE. I would say it's not unlikely for it to make an appearance in the early stages of the tour.


 :caffeine:



The other two songs that got a small stage time last time (and generally in the last 7 years) are LTL and Another Day. They could make a return

I hope not.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 23, 2013, 04:52:37 AM
You know, when you make a subtle edit of a post, especially if the edit is just removing the "un" in "unlikely", you should highlight it. People would misunderstand your message.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 23, 2013, 04:55:17 AM
Well, I'll trust your instinct :D However, James has had a long career and his voice has gone through a lot, so I wouldn't blame him at all if they were forced to transpose songs.
Oh, and if they have the WWRD mentality, then it's not impossible that they might tune songs down live, since Rush have been playing the sections of 2112 in D for quite a while. Then again, Rush have played medleys and JP doesn't like those, so... :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on July 23, 2013, 05:25:20 AM
You know, when you make a subtle edit of a post, especially if the edit is just removing the "un" in "unlikely", you should highlight it. People would misunderstand your message.

Sorry, that was a mistake :D

I didn't mean to remove it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on July 23, 2013, 06:14:19 AM
I was hoping they would keep Metropolis. If I witness that live I will spend the rest of 2014 a very happy man  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on July 23, 2013, 10:35:44 AM
A couple things.

First, according to all the knowledge I have, TTT is actually definitely much more difficult to sing than LTL or AD, and probably is for almost any singer. Basically because the high notes are much more spread out in the second two so if your throat tenses a bit you aren't really in any trouble.

Also, edits and transpositions RUIN songs for me. I'd rather see him make an entirely new melody (like AD on SFNY which sounded godly) than them just disrupt the entire feel of the song. I also hope (and think) this happening is less likely with JP having more control than MP.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 23, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
A couple things.

First, according to all the knowledge I have, TTT is actually definitely much more difficult to sing than LTL or AD, and probably is for almost any singer. Basically because the high notes are much more spread out in the second two so if your throat tenses a bit you aren't really in any trouble.

Also, edits and transpositions RUIN songs for me. I'd rather see him make an entirely new melody (like AD on SFNY which sounded godly) than them just disrupt the entire feel of the song. I also hope (and think) this happening is less likely with JP having more control than MP.

I agree with you on that one. Well, I understand transposition and why old singers use it nowadays, so that doesn't bother me much. What does bother me are the edits on the song... like the "abridged" versions of Voices and Take the Time DT played during TOT/SC/BC&SL tours. I mean, they cut probably some of the best sections of the song to give James a break which isn't that nice. It would have been better if they played other songs that aren't so demanding on the vocal department instead of those ones, although I get the "playing those songs" in one way or another. They are DT classic tracks and are incredibly well received live... but hey, that's me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 24, 2013, 02:57:21 AM
Nah, that's not you. Abridging songs makes no sense. To think that in 98 they abridged the whole second verse of metropolis, after realizingmhow bad was the song with toned down melodies.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Nah, that's not you. Abridging songs makes no sense. To think that in 98 they abridged the whole second verse of metropolis, after realizingmhow bad was the song with toned down melodies.
You make me feel funny down there  :heart

After some meditation, I've come to the conclusion that I'd take transposition over abridging songs any day of the week. Transposing isn't as bad as many people say it is, I'd rather have a full song but a half-step or one whole step down than having the logical and musical structure of the song cut in all of a sudden.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on July 25, 2013, 01:40:25 PM
Yup, transposing songs is ALWAYS better than abridging them.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: jingle.boy on July 25, 2013, 03:00:25 PM

The other two songs that got a small stage time last time (and generally in the last 7 years) are LTL and Another Day. They could make a return, but I don't see that happening for the only reason that songs as vocally challanging as they are may not be a great idea to preserve James's voice intact for a full world tour of 2,5/3h shows.

I know James is 7 years older now, but on the 20th tour, they did AD/LTL as the encore (I'm sure you have the Toronto boot... with Jacob's Ladder), and he nailed LtL.  He might not have held the big notes for too long, but he sure did hit them.  And TTT has to be more challenging, as there are whole stanza's that stay at that high range, vs individual notes.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 25, 2013, 03:19:03 PM
Yes, the fact is that 7 years have passed since then. And even in 05/06, which is supposed to be a good year for James in most fans' minds, just a few selected LTLs were great, and probably none of the TTT performances at all.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on July 25, 2013, 06:25:09 PM
Nah, that's not you. Abridging songs makes no sense. To think that in 98 they abridged the whole second verse of metropolis, after realizingmhow bad was the song with toned down melodies.
I didn't think that PMU/Metropolis '10 was that bad...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on July 25, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
Is that the same as PullMetropolis 05/06? If so, that was quite good.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on July 26, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
No, it was just Metropolis. After "to this mind" they would go directly into the indtrumental section.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 29, 2013, 01:21:18 PM
It's the version that they've played every single time except for the Images and Words tour and earlier. They play Carol of the Bells in the middle of it and it totally ruins the flow, and it's one of DT's worst jams (actually one of the VERY FEW bad DT jams), but everyone think it's incredible for some reason.  :facepalm:

You mean the keyboard solo, that isn't really a solo, just the synth noise on the album. Yeah it does feel out of place but I like that addition.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on August 01, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
No, it was just Metropolis. After "to this mind" they would go directly into the indtrumental section.
No, I'm talking about in 2010, when after the last chorus of PMU, they went straight to Metropolis's (extended) instrumental section.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 01, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
Yeah thought so, that's the same version they played on the 20th Anniversary Tour. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 01, 2013, 11:28:40 AM
No, it was just Metropolis. After "to this mind" they would go directly into the indtrumental section.
No, I'm talking about in 2010, when after the last chorus of PMU, they went straight to Metropolis's (extended) instrumental section.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood your previous post. Maybe I'm just biased against PMU/MET due to my strong bias against medleys in general :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 01, 2013, 11:34:56 AM
So am I in general, but I particularly enjoyed that one back in 2005. It probably helped that it was my first DT show.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 02, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
The Enemy Inside is surely odds on to be the show opener? And I reckon it's likely they'll play the entire album.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 02, 2013, 10:13:57 AM
So am I in general, but I particularly enjoyed that one back in 2005. It probably helped that it was my first DT show.

The only reason I ever listen to those pieces are the little cute instrumental improvisation before the last verse of metropolis. If it weren't for them I would completely shun PMU/Met  :angel:

As for The Enemy Inside, it remains to be seen if there is such a thing of a musical connection with FAS. If the latter flows into the former then I can say that it's safely decided that The Enemy Inside will be the first song to be performed (if FAS is intro-taped) or the second (if FAS is played). Otherwise it could be just anywhere, like OTBOA.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Sketchy on August 03, 2013, 12:39:42 PM
I doubt they'll play it, but I'd love Trial Of Tears.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 03, 2013, 12:52:45 PM
I doubt they'll play it, but I'd love Trial Of Tears.

Who wouldn't?  :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 03, 2013, 01:07:26 PM
I'd rather have Scarred :heart
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 03, 2013, 01:27:22 PM
I'd rather have Scarred :heart

Can't we have both? :hearts:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on August 03, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
The Enemy Inside is surely odds on to be the show opener? And I reckon it's likely they'll play the entire album.
I bet we'll see the album opener as the show opener for this tour because JP clearly said they wrote their own intro music for this album.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 03, 2013, 06:38:18 PM
Well yeah I agree, but I think that'll be an intro tape. The Enemy Inside will probably be the first song the band actually performs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ultimetalhead on August 05, 2013, 06:47:06 AM
I think it would be pretty cool if they just played the whole album front to back with the intro tape as the first song.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on August 06, 2013, 02:49:42 AM
Yeah I think you can tell that the FAS that they will use to open the show will flow straight into TEI.

But my question is this - Seeing as this album appears like it will be balls to the wall heavy, does anyone think they will flesh the show out with much more mellow songs? Or will we still see songs like BITS, Outcry, ITNOG, TGP (just examples of heavier songs from past albums!)??
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 06, 2013, 02:51:46 AM
I really don't expect the whole album to be this heavy. Instead, I can imagine TEI being the album's heaviest song, so there is still a good chance we will see songs from TOT and stuff like that. When it comes to ADTOE, I think the songs that are most likely to be played are OTBOA and BAI.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 06, 2013, 02:56:40 AM
I really don't expect the whole album to be this heavy. Instead, I can imagine TEI being the album's heaviest song, so there is still a good chance we will see songs from TOT and stuff like that. When it comes to ADTOE, I think the songs that are most likely to be played are OTBOA and BAI.

Agreed. There's nothing to suggest the entire album will be as heavy as TEI.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on August 06, 2013, 05:17:27 AM
Except that foreign translated review that was on facebook.  :omg:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 06, 2013, 05:30:44 AM
IIRC, TEI was the only song that review described as "heavy" :justjen
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on August 06, 2013, 08:33:51 AM
This reminds me of when everyone thought Clockwork Angels would be a super-heavy album, after hearing Caravan and BU2B. Well, they were wrong.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Spark Mandrill on August 07, 2013, 09:28:40 AM
Agreed. There's nothing to suggest the entire album will be as heavy as TEI.

Have to agree - if BITS had been the first song released from ADTOE, a lot of people would have assumed it to be a heavy record.

Concerning set list predictions, I have to think that the first track from album segues nicely into TEI.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Progmetty on August 07, 2013, 11:48:58 AM
I don't have specific predictions but my money is on that set list is gonna be dominated by the new album and Dramatic Turn songs.
Also 50$ says Bridges in The Sky is going to be the first encore song, the only encore song or the closer.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 07, 2013, 12:01:04 PM
50$ that BAI will be part of the encore. It would be amazing to see BITS live this tour too :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 07, 2013, 12:53:49 PM
I don't have specific predictions but my money is on that set list is gonna be dominated by the new album and Dramatic Turn songs.
Also 50$ says Bridges in The Sky is going to be the first encore song, the only encore song or the closer.

I can live with that :hat
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on August 07, 2013, 04:00:04 PM
do you guys think they might have a orchestra on this tour
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on August 07, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
do you guys think they might have a orchestra on this tour

God, I hope not.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2013, 12:16:43 PM
Mine would be 'Lines in the Sand'.  The song is upbeat, the drums and bass are great and the guitar solo is awesome.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: philmcson on August 08, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
The shattered fortress
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on August 08, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 08, 2013, 01:02:42 PM
Octavarium
Scarred
Innocence Faded
Take the Time
Learning To Live
Lifting Shadows
The Killing Hand
The Ones Who Helped to Set the Sun
This Dying Soul

just to name a few..
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2013, 01:26:42 PM
The shattered fortress

One of my favorite in your face songs.  :metal Love the beginning, the 1 minute keyboard/organ solo and the end.  Someone mentioned the song has no new music(parts of the prior suite songs), but to me the song kicks ass and wraps up the suite about Mike Portney's struggle with alcohol.  I looked in the list of prior concerts and could not find this song ever being played live.  I probably missed it looking at the lists.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2013, 01:28:10 PM
Octavarium

I love the last 10 minutes of the song, but the first 10minutes not so much, but great song overall
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Scorpion on August 08, 2013, 01:28:47 PM
Nope. "The Shattered Fortress" one of the four DT songs that have yet to be played live, along with "Don't Look Past Me", "Space-Dye Vest" and "The Best of Times".
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on August 08, 2013, 01:42:07 PM
Octavarium, Breaking All Illusions, Trial of Tears, Learning to Live (poor James  :-[), These Walls, Finally Free, The Dance of Eternity, In the Presence of Enemies, Voices, Only a Matter of Time, The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun....


I could go on and on.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 08, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
Yea, Shattered Fortress for sure
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: illusionist on August 08, 2013, 02:27:38 PM
Blind faith
Through her eyes
Hell's kitchen
Stream of Consciousness
Sacrificed sons
Beneath the surface
Lie
Take the time
The best of times
A change of seasons
Illumination theory

Done!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2013, 02:52:50 PM
Yea, Shattered Fortress for sure

Wow, all the hate I have seen for TSF  on this site and found at least two folks that like the song.

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on August 08, 2013, 03:12:55 PM
Love the drums in Blind Faith and looks as if Illumination Theory is expected to be the next DT classic.
It better be or there will be some disappointed fans.

Blind faith
Through her eyes
Hell's kitchen
Stream of Consciousness
Sacrificed sons
Beneath the surface
Lie
Take the time
The best of times
A change of seasons
Illumination theory

Done!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cramx3 on August 08, 2013, 03:45:28 PM
Learning to Live because it is my favorite DT song and I've never seen them play it live out of the 8 times ive seen them.

Id like to see the Shattered Fortress and The Glass Prison as well.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 08, 2013, 03:45:47 PM
Absolutely Blind Faith too. The only problem with that entire song is that the incredible organ solo isn't loud enough!! Everything is just GENIUS
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on August 08, 2013, 03:52:41 PM
A Change of Seasons, The Mirror/Lie, Home, Eve, Octavarium, Sacrificed Sons, The Count of Tuscany, To Live forever
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: krands85 on August 08, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
I've only seen DT twice, but unfortunately they haven't played any of my top 4 tracks - LtL, Metropolis, Octavarium, ItNoG, so any of them would be amazing. I'm desperate to see Learning to Live or Metropolis especially, as they've been my favourite songs for ages now. I seem to have just missed both of them as they'd been played on the legs either side of the shows I went to. I feel bad for after seeing cram's post above though - 8 times seeing them live without playing your favourite song must suck! Especially when it's a fan favourite and not played irregularly. I have a funny feeling they might play Take the Time instead on the upcoming tour though - while it's an awesome song, it's one that I have seen before.

Basically anything from my top 20 or so tracks would be great to see live, but aside from the 4 I mentioned earlier, here are a few I'd love to see:
A Change of Seasons, Trial of Tears, The Glass Prison, Sacrificed Sons, The Ministry of Lost Souls, Lines in the Sand. There are a load more of course, but these are ones that I haven't seen before and haven't been played for a while AFAIK
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 08, 2013, 04:34:53 PM
Ok, Eve team! Get in action!  :yarr
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lark the Starless on August 08, 2013, 05:28:08 PM
I've seen DT 4 times in concert, all during the ADTOE tour.

I did get to see them when they opened for Iron Maiden back in 2010 when Portnoy was in the band (I don't count that occasion, since I only saw them play like 2 or 3 songs  :sad: )

The following list includes songs that I have heard but mostly those I wish to hear live.

I&W
-Under a Glass Moon
-Wait for Sleep and then segueing into Learning to Live  :metal

Awake
-Aside from 6:00 and Caught in a Web (both of which I've seen live), I'd love to see anything from this album, especially the A Mind Beside Itself trilogy.

Falling into Infinity
-Peruvian Skies
-Hollow Years
-Trial of Tears

SFAM
-The whole album! But specifically, Overture 1928 segueing into Strange Deja Vu and Finally Free.

6DOIT
-The Glass Prison
-6DOIT (all of it! I can dream, can I?  ;D )

ToT
-This Dying Soul
-Vacant segueing into Stream of Consciousness

Octavarium
-Octavarium

SC
-ITPOE Pts. 1 and 2

BC&SL
-The Count of Tuscany

ADTOE
-I would prefer if they played as less of this album as possible but I wouldn't mind hearing Breaking All Illusions again.

I imagine they'll be playing a good chunk of the new album so I'm pumped for that.

Oh and let's not forget A Change of Seasons  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: illusionist on August 08, 2013, 06:11:12 PM
I forgot to mention, RAW DOG!Wishful thinking..
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on August 08, 2013, 06:37:04 PM
Do they even have the rights to play that?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucidity on August 08, 2013, 11:22:34 PM
 Octavarium, The Mirror, and The Great Debate  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on August 09, 2013, 12:06:32 AM
I thought we had a "song wishlist" thread, but I couldn't find it ??? Anyway, I'd love to see the following bunch of songs:

Scarred
LTL
ACOS
Eve
Space-Dye Vest

(these are basically my top 5 DT songs overall :D)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: adastra on August 09, 2013, 12:40:02 AM
I Walk Beside You and Just Let Me Breathe !!!!!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 09, 2013, 01:50:06 AM
My wishlist (some of those were played last tour, but I'd still love to see them this time :D):

A Fortune In Lies
Afterlife

Metropolis
Under A Glass Moon

6:00
The Silent Man
The Mirror/Lie
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest (pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase..)

Raise The Knife
Hollow Years
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears

Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy
Through Her Eyes
Home
The Spirit Carries On
Finally Free

The Glass Prison
Disappear

As I Am
This Dying Soul
Endless Sacrifice
Honor Thy Father
Vacant/Stream Of Consciousness
In The Name Of God

These Walls
I Walk Beside You
Panic Attack
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium

Forsaken
The Dark Eternal Night
The Ministry Of Lost Souls

A Nightmare To Remember
The Count Of Tuscany

On The Backs Of Angels
Bridges In The Sky
Outcry
Breaking All Illusions
Beneath The Surface

DT12 in its entirety.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 09, 2013, 04:23:19 AM
I thought we had a "song wishlist" thread, but I couldn't find it ??? Anyway, I'd love to see the following bunch of songs:

Scarred
LTL
ACOS
Eve
Space-Dye Vest

(these are basically my top 5 DT songs overall :D)

We did, but there were requests to merge it with the Setlist Prediction thread - typical that we now get a new thread.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mikemangioy on August 09, 2013, 05:07:06 AM
In the name of god, Scarred, Raise the knife, Sacrificed Sons, ministry of lost souls... i could go on and on and on and on it goooooooes
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: krieger on August 09, 2013, 05:59:18 PM
I thought we had a "song wishlist" thread, but I couldn't find it ??? Anyway, I'd love to see the following bunch of songs:

Scarred
LTL
ACOS
Eve
Space-Dye Vest

That would be amazing!  :metal

I can say that Scarred, LTL and Space-Dye Vest are also on my TOP 5.

Breaking all Illusions and Trial of Tears would be cool. Music with Myung lyrics = greatness.  :corn
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Curious Orange on August 14, 2013, 04:31:06 AM
Ideal Setlist:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Pull Me Under
The Looking Glass
The Killing Hand
The Bigger Picture
Enigma Machine
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
~~~~~~
Trial of Tears
Surrender to Reason
Behind the Veil
Along for the Ride
Wither
Breaking All Illusions
Illumination Theory
~~~~~~
Home
Learning to Live
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 14, 2013, 05:18:59 AM
Oh, that would be very nice :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 14, 2013, 05:22:07 AM
Not exactly my ideal setlist, but i would leave the hall quite happy after that. Well actually i was never unhappy after any DT show  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 06:22:49 AM
At about 21:00 in this interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A), JLB reveals he'd like to play/wouldn't mind playing Trial of Tears, Scarred, possibly Take the Time, Blind Faith, and Octavarium on the upcoming tour. Fingers crossed all of those are included in the setlists!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 15, 2013, 07:23:55 AM
:caffeine: apart from Blind Faith
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 15, 2013, 07:47:54 AM
^^this, also agree on the Blind Faith statement.

but :caffeine::caffeine: if they decided to play SFAM again back to back due to its 15 anniversary
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 15, 2013, 07:52:09 AM
Oh I would probably die of happiness if that happened :drool:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 15, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
It's a long time since i saw that in Offenbach, still alive... ...barely... ...but was really mind blowing  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on August 15, 2013, 10:13:11 AM
:caffeine: apart from Blind Faith Octavarium
FTFM.

However, that would be a lot of epics and I wonder if there's room for all of them in the setlist.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 15, 2013, 10:53:04 AM
Oh PLEASE let those songs make it in!! ALL OF THEM!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 15, 2013, 11:47:10 AM
Trial of Tears is probably the one I'd most like to get live.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 15, 2013, 11:51:40 AM
:caffeine: apart from Blind Faith Octavarium
FTFM.

I don't have any respect for your music taste anymore now :angry: ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on August 15, 2013, 01:10:15 PM
:caffeine: apart from Blind Faith Octavarium
FTFM.
I don't have any respect for your music taste anymore now :angry: ;)
:-*
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 03:10:20 PM
After asking JP tonight, I'd put money on there being a few special shows next year at which they play SFAM.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lark the Starless on August 15, 2013, 03:13:25 PM
After asking JP tonight, I'd put money on there being a few special shows next year at which they play SFAM.

Seriously???

Wow, if they happen to perform it in LA, I wouldn't be able to control myself.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 03:15:22 PM
Well they hadn't thought about the anniversary, but seemed very open to, even enthused by, the idea of playing the album - 'it was the most obvious thing to do'. JP said he'd love to see what MM could do with it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lark the Starless on August 15, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
That's great news. Hopefully we get a few shows with SFAM.

Did you also mention the idea of them doing something for the 20th anniversary of "Awake"?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
No, I didn't get a chance. I think that's less likely to be honest, considering they'd have to do full band SDV. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 15, 2013, 03:34:09 PM
So, that's interesting news. Let's see if something actually follows :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 15, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
Awake would be INCREDIBLE. Like as in probably the most incredible thing I could ever see at a concert.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on August 15, 2013, 03:40:22 PM
If they do play SFAM, I'm taking credit for planting the seed. :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 15, 2013, 08:55:13 PM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Pull Me Under
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 15, 2013, 09:52:14 PM
:jawdrop:

but Awake would be SO much more incredible. Plus they've already done Scenes live quite a few times before.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Setlist Scotty on August 15, 2013, 10:41:01 PM
If they do play SFAM, I'm taking credit for planting the seed. :lol
It's possible they might do it, but don't bank on it, especially since their focus is gonna be on the new album. Back in Dec of 2011, I mentioned the idea of doing a second Instrumedley to him and he seemed pretty into the idea. Needless to say, it never happened. So it's quite possible that while he was showing interest in your idea, that may be as far as it goes.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 15, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Was that in 2011 when that came up? Well this tour is evening with so I think it would work much better now.

But in my opinion the only good types of medleys are the ones that just use snippets of a whole load of songs, but they fit together like one. And all the other songs during the night have to be entirely unedited like everything was on the Dramatic Tour. I CAN'T STAND those types of medleys like Queen did when you hear 75% of like 4 songs with awkward transitions. So Instrumedley is really the only good DT medley.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 16, 2013, 12:48:16 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Pull Me Under Octavarium

I can't even think how happy I'd be if that happened.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 16, 2013, 12:51:06 AM
Album or Song?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 16, 2013, 01:32:31 AM
Since this tour i will be only attending 1 concert, the probability to see SFAM will be very low.

Thinking of it, if they really pull SFAM, would it not be the perfect trigger to relaunch ytsejamrecords?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 16, 2013, 01:37:05 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 01:43:52 AM
Probably  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on August 16, 2013, 02:14:33 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Octavarium
I could live with that  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 16, 2013, 02:21:16 AM
Unsure, i'd had to listen to DT12 before agreeing to that.

Set 1: :caffeine:
Set 2:  Probably great
Encore: Great (but you could replace it with ACOS or LTL and still :caffeine:)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 02:33:51 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Octavarium
I could live with that  :metal

You would have to buy a huge memory card to tape it all! Such a show could never go unrecorded!  :yarr
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on August 16, 2013, 02:54:30 AM
It's just about exactly 3 hours right? They totally should do this with SFAM and Awake. Of course it'd probably disappoint a few people who wanted a night of everything  :lol but maybe they could advertise a few nights this way so it's no surprise!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 03:04:02 AM
It's just about exactly 3 hours right? They totally should do this with SFAM and Awake. Of course it'd probably disappoint a few people who wanted a night of everything  :lol but maybe they could advertise a few nights this way so it's no surprise!

On second nights it could be alright. I didn't check, are there any on  the EU tour?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 16, 2013, 03:15:06 AM
No
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 03:16:14 AM
No

Well, then I hope I don't get SFAM unless I do a double gig. As much as I love SFAM I would rather see a full varied setlist.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on August 16, 2013, 03:19:04 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Octavarium
I could live with that  :metal

You would have to buy a huge memory card to tape it all! Such a show could never go unrecorded!  :yarr
and few more batteries. I managed to record the entire Roger Waters The Wall last sunday in Copenhagen and I used all my 4 batteries for that
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 03:20:52 AM
and few more batteries. I managed to record the entire Roger Waters The Wall last sunday in Copenhagen and I used all my 4 batteries for that

Rechargable batteries, I hope! Does you camera run on lithium cells or on old cylindric batteries?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: serrano on August 16, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
No

Well, then I hope I don't get SFAM unless I do a double gig. As much as I love SFAM I would rather see a full varied setlist.

It would be great if they did a 2nd european leg as a 15 anniversary tour. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 03:28:44 AM
Eh, that's a good idea! Maybe without the burden of a full DTDT performance it could be feasible.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on August 16, 2013, 03:34:24 AM
and few more batteries. I managed to record the entire Roger Waters The Wall last sunday in Copenhagen and I used all my 4 batteries for that

Rechargable batteries, I hope! Does you camera run on lithium cells or on old cylindric batteries?
rechargeable lithium-ion batteries, but my camera drains them fast. Can record 25-30 minutes per battery
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 16, 2013, 03:46:49 AM
and few more batteries. I managed to record the entire Roger Waters The Wall last sunday in Copenhagen and I used all my 4 batteries for that

Rechargable batteries, I hope! Does you camera run on lithium cells or on old cylindric batteries?
rechargeable lithium-ion batteries, but my camera drains them fast. Can record 25-30 minutes per battery

Wow, that's some power sucking. :/ How much does a battery cost?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 16, 2013, 04:21:20 AM
Album or Song?

Song. I probably wouldn't survive the awesomeness if they played the album.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Zydar on August 16, 2013, 05:03:33 AM
Album or Song?

Song. I probably wouldn't survive the awesomeness if they played the album.

Three whole albums in a row?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YD8Na5Mv4oY/USZJ0T5RKQI/AAAAAAAADnU/5U871_OaqRE/s320/Ain-t-Nobody-Got-Time-Fo-Dat-sweet-brown-31241125-480-330.jpg)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: krands85 on August 16, 2013, 05:55:45 AM
Set 1

Scenes From A Memory

Set 2

Dream Theater

Encore

Pull Me Under Octavarium

I can't even think how happy I'd be if that happened.
Stick Metropolis Pt 1 in before Scenes as the show opener and I'd be more than satisfied  ;D That would be just under 3 hours I think (going by studio track lengths). Although given what they've said about FAS, you'd have to have Scenes as the second set.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 16, 2013, 08:33:18 AM
Thinking about it, Scenes as the second set might work better, simply because no matter how good DT12 might be, it would he kind of underwhelming to listen to it immediately after SFAM.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on August 16, 2013, 10:00:51 AM
Thinking about it, Scenes as the second set might work better, simply because no matter how good DT12 might be, it would he kind of underwhelming to listen to it immediately after SFAM.

And considering that we know FAS will be the intro, and The Enemy Inside will be the opener, it would be more likely.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 16, 2013, 12:27:59 PM
I was trying to leave IT as the closer pre encore.  And FAS / Enemy Inside could work as a  second set opener. idk it could go either way.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Setlist Scotty on August 16, 2013, 05:10:03 PM
Was that in 2011 when that came up? Well this tour is evening with so I think it would work much better now.

But in my opinion the only good types of medleys are the ones that just use snippets of a whole load of songs, but they fit together like one. And all the other songs during the night have to be entirely unedited like everything was on the Dramatic Tour. I CAN'T STAND those types of medleys like Queen did when you hear 75% of like 4 songs with awkward transitions. So Instrumedley is really the only good DT medley.
Yeah I mentioned the idea of a second Instrumedley in 2011, so I guess there is more of a possibility of it happening now (plus having a ton of time to think over what instrumental sections could be cleverly pieced together) - good point! And I agree about medleys that consist of awkward transitions - Schmedley Wilcox was a bit awkward IMO altho I got used to it over time. But yeah, the original Instrumedley was probably their best one, altho I'd say that Caught in a New Millennium was also well done, if you would consider that a medley.

As for the idea of them doing SFaM for one of the sets, honestly, I hate the idea, and that's considering that it's one of my top 3 DT albums! The only exception I could see is if they were to change up the songs as they did when they performed WDaDU in LA in 2004. If they would play it as the album, pass - I can listen to the full album in the comfort of my home if that be the case, be it on SFaM or LSFNY. I'd rather get a setlist of material spanning all their albums (WDaDU and BCaSL included). As an alternate idea, I'd rather see them resurrect the original version of Metropolis part II and perform that on occasion - that IMO would be a really cool and unique way to celebrate the anniversary of SFaM without requiring a whole set to be taken up by that album's material.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 17, 2013, 12:18:34 AM
I always wanted them to resurrect Metropolis Part 2... People told me I was crazy...  :'(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on August 17, 2013, 04:45:30 AM
Here is my take on how the setlist could look like. I think they will have an A & B list just like they did on the previous tour and I would not mind if they on a few occasions played the entire sfam

Setlist A
first set
False awakening suite
The enemy inside
Under a glass moon
Lost not forgotten
New song
Innocence faded
Anna Lee
Beneath the surface
Illumination theory

second set
Bridges in the sky
New song
Trial of tears
Misunderstood
New song
Overture 1928
Strange déjà vu
New song
Breaking all illusions

Encore
Octavarium

Setlist B
First set

False awakening suite
The enemy inside
To live forever
Lost not forgotten
New song
Eve
Anna Lee
Beneath the surface
Illumination theory

second set
Bridges in the sky
New song
Trial of tears
Outcry
New song
Overture 1928
Strange Déjà Vu
New song
Count of Tuscany

Encore
In the name of God
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 17, 2013, 05:33:33 AM
Not bad :clap:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucidity on August 17, 2013, 01:41:27 PM
 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 17, 2013, 02:43:13 PM
Too little IAW for me :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on August 17, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
How about this Wasteland?

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Mirror
New song
Hell's Kitchen
Keyboard Solo/Lines in the Sand
Misunderstood
Through Her Eyes (w/ saxophone)
New song
Lost Not Forgotten
Take the Time

---intermission---

Home
Enigma Machine (based on descriptions of intenseness)
Honor Thy Father
New song
Wither (piano version)
Wait for Sleep
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
Illumination Theory

---encore---
In the Name of God

~ 2.9 hours :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on August 17, 2013, 03:54:09 PM
More like:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Mirror
New song
Hell's Kitchen
Lines in the Sand
Misunderstood
Guitar Solo / Through Her Eyes (w/ saxophone)
New song
Voices
Take the Time

---intermission---

Home
Enigma Machine (based on descriptions of intenseness)
Drum + Bass Jam
Panic Attack
The Killing Hand
Wither (piano version)
To Live Forever
New Song
Illumination Theory

---encore---
Space Dye Vest
Finally Free (Outro Guitar Improv)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on August 17, 2013, 04:08:20 PM
Oooo, me likey that as well!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 17, 2013, 04:48:46 PM
What do you guys think of a SFAM Medley?

Regression / Overture1928/ Strange DV/ TDOE / Finally Free

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucidity on August 17, 2013, 05:17:07 PM
What do you guys think of a SFAM Medley?

Regression / Overture1928/ Strange DV/ TDOE / Finally Free

I'd feel guilty listening to Finally Free without the entire album before it  :sad:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 17, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
Meh


I just wanna see Finally Free and Dance if they don't play the entire album. I've seen all the other "big" songs (Through My words/ Fatal Tragedy, Home, Beyond This Life, Spirit).
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on August 18, 2013, 04:54:09 AM
My dream SFAM medley would be Regression/Overture 1928/SDV/TMW/Fatal Tragedy/BTL/THE/Home/TDOE/OLT/TSCO/Finally Free ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 18, 2013, 05:27:21 PM
So now we've heard the album, do we still think the album will be played from start to finish as one of the two sets? Personally, I think every song will be played at each show, but spread out throughout the concert.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on September 18, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
Honestly, this is one of those albums you just can't NOT play live in its entirety. EVERY song is strong.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 20, 2013, 04:12:44 AM
I would love to see Octavarium and Illumination Theory. Am I pretending too much? :(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on September 20, 2013, 05:13:12 AM
After listening to the new album a good many times now, I am convinced that they HAVE to have an orchestra. For me it would be such a cop out for Jordan to play that section in IT (YOU know which one I mean  ;) ). So yeah, I feel they've shot themselves in the foot with that one...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 20, 2013, 07:57:30 AM
I would love to see Octavarium and Illumination Theory. Am I pretending too much? :(

I really think so... that's one hour off the setlist in just two songs...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 20, 2013, 09:12:25 AM
I would love to see Octavarium and Illumination Theory. Am I pretending too much? :(

I really think so... that's one hour off the setlist in just two songs...

I mean, they did SDOIT and 8VM in one show before. :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 20, 2013, 09:22:17 AM
ONE show, and it was a special occasion. And the setlist suffered terribly because of that!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 20, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
I have a little trouble believing a setlist could SUFFER from Illumination Theory AND Octavarium being played in the same night... And that goes for 6doit too.. Sounds like the greatest DT show ever to me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 20, 2013, 09:45:18 AM
ONE show, and it was a special occasion. And the setlist suffered terribly because of that!

Good point about the special occasion, but I think whether or not the setlist suffered as result is up to opinion. :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ruba on September 20, 2013, 10:56:50 AM
Dear Santa (JR is OK too, because he's another bearded gentleman),

On Along for the Ride world tour I'd like to hear the following songs:

A Fortune in Lies
Only a Matter of Time
Take the Time
Learning to Live
Innocence Faded
Voices
Scarred
Caught in Alice's New Nine-Inch Millenium Tool Garden
Lines in the Sand
Trial of Tears
Finally Free
Misunderstood
Vacant/Stream of Consciousness
Never Enough
In the Presence of Enemies
On the Backs of Angels
Outcry
Some Rush cover
And all of the new album. Not that I like all of it, but nearly every studio album song has been played live, which I admire.

Yours faithfully,
Ruba
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on September 20, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
Now, with all the new songs, here's how I imagine it:

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Voices
Behind the Veil
Surrender to Reason
Metropolis (slows down to the end of set 1 from here)
The Bigger Picture
The Silent Man
Vacant

Set 2: (Vacant ends set one and SOC is the first song in set two.)

Stream of Consciousness
Enigma Machine (two instrumentals gives James an extended break)
Learning to Live (before the entirety of THIS song)
The Looking Glass
Under a Glass Moon
Misunderstood
Breaking All Illusions
Along for the Ride
Hell's Kitchen
The Dance of Eternity
One Last Time
The Spirit Carries On
Octavarium

Encore:

Illumination Theory (imagine all the screaming as the introduction of this song happens)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 20, 2013, 07:13:10 PM
I still think it's entirely feasible they'll play the whole album in the first set.  They did the same thing on the SFAM tour (which is 10 minutes longer as an album by the way) and no one's complaining about that.  Play the new album as set 1, delve into the band's history for set 2, do a fan favorite for the encore.  Sounds like an awesome show to me.

I want to hear 8V in the 2nd set or as the encore, but sadly I think that might be wishful thinking on my part. 

As for Illumination Theory:  touring with an orchestra seems really difficult and expensive, so I'm not sure the band is itching to do that.  Touring with a smaller string section might be feasible, but the orchestra parts would have to be rearranged significantly to make it work.  It seems like that part of the song will probably have to be played as a sample (though I'd love to be proven wrong).
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: hefdaddy42 on September 20, 2013, 10:50:31 PM
ONE show, and it was a special occasion. And the setlist suffered terribly because of that!
No, the setlist suffered from the format of how it was constructed, not because of having both of those epics.  That is what SAVED the setlist.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 21, 2013, 04:24:40 AM
ONE show, and it was a special occasion. And the setlist suffered terribly because of that!
No, the setlist suffered from the format of how it was constructed, not because of having both of those epics.  That is what SAVED the setlist.

Definitely this. But still, it is just a pale hope I'm nurturing deep in my heart  :(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 21, 2013, 04:53:15 AM
ONE show, and it was a special occasion. And the setlist suffered terribly because of that!
No, the setlist suffered from the format of how it was constructed, not because of having both of those epics.  That is what SAVED the setlist.

You mean the chronological order of the songs? Yes, that was a factor too, but I still stand by my point. As much as I like both IT and 8V I don't think the overall show would benefit of both being played, especially if they were to be played back to back.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on September 21, 2013, 05:42:21 AM
I would love to see Octavarium and Illumination Theory. Am I pretending too much? :(

I really think so... that's one hour off the setlist in just two songs...
I don't think so. I don't no reason why it not should be possible. One could close first set and the another song could either close the second or be encore. That would be my dream scenario :)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 21, 2013, 07:02:41 AM
I'm more attracted by the long stream of 8-12 minuters, looks like! Let's see what I can do:


False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Take The Time
Hollow Years / Guitar-Piano Duet
The Great Debate
Behind The Veil
This Is The Life
To Live Forever
Finally Free
----
Enigma Machine (***)
The Looking Glass
Afterlife
The Mirror / Reprise
The Bigger Picture
Through Her Eyes / Solo
Along For The Ride
Surrender To Reason
Breaking All Illusions
---
Illumination Theory
Easter Egg (Outro Tape)

(***) - Intro played on tape witht the lights still down, they turn on when the full band kicks in.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 21, 2013, 10:09:59 AM
I like it! Here's my take:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Just Let Me Breathe
Lost Not Forgotten
JR Solo/Behind the Veil
Misunderstood
Along for the Ride
JP Solo/Lines in the Sand
The Bigger Picture
------
The Glass Prison
The Looking Glass
Vacant
Enigma Machine
Another Hand/The Killing Hand
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
Surrender to Reason
JM Solo (w/ MM)/Scarred
Illumination Theory
------
Encore:
Illumination Theory (easter egg)
Breaking All Illusions
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 21, 2013, 10:25:51 AM
Is the JM/MM solo > Scarred and idea you came up yourself? I recall wishing for it to happen about some time in one of these threads!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 21, 2013, 10:33:23 AM
Is the JM/MM solo > Scarred and idea you came up yourself? I recall wishing for it to happen about some time in one of these threads!

I did just think of it myself, but now I remember you mentioning it. I don't know if my idea was the exact same as yours though. Mine is that MM starts with the ride cymbal from the beginning of Scarred, but when JM enters he extends it into a bass solo, later returning to the original riff and JP enters with the rest of the song.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 21, 2013, 10:39:04 AM
No, mine was actually the opposite! A spacey drums + bass improvisation like the Moon Bubbles of old culminating in the Scarred ride and the rest of the song.

I don't remember if I posted this last time, but I wouldn't complain if the improvisation started with the Solar Groove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87UVbOIYT_k . I would actually die in joy.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Zyzzyva17 on September 21, 2013, 12:41:28 PM
Set 1:
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
New Millennium
The Looking Glass
Vacant (with JR piano solo intro)
Enigma Machine (with MM solo extended)
The Killing Hand
The Bigger Picture
Breaking All Illusions

Set 2:
Behind the Veil (with intro on the tape)
Never Enough
Surrender to Reason
Voices (starting with ambience from the end of Erotomania)
Misunderstood (with JP acoustic solo intro)
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory

Encore:
Learning to Live
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on September 21, 2013, 01:18:45 PM
Now, with all the new songs, here's how I imagine it:

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Voices
Behind the Veil
Surrender to Reason
Metropolis (slows down to the end of set 1 from here)
The Bigger Picture
The Silent Man
Vacant

Set 2: (Vacant ends set one and SOC is the first song in set two.)

Stream of Consciousness
Enigma Machine (two instrumentals gives James an extended break)
Learning to Live (before the entirety of THIS song)
The Looking Glass
Under a Glass Moon
Misunderstood
Breaking All Illusions
Along for the Ride
Hell's Kitchen
The Dance of Eternity
One Last Time
The Spirit Carries On
Octavarium

Encore:

Illumination Theory (imagine all the screaming as the introduction of this song happens)

Made it bigger and better :zydar:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 21, 2013, 01:32:07 PM
I'm quite positive your setlist is a bit too long for the current time constraints :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on September 21, 2013, 08:14:38 PM
100% sure. You could probably take out the 3 song SFAM run
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 22, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
Slightly revised my predictions. One setlist has DT12 played in full, the other has it spread throughout the show.

Setlist A:
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
4. Enigma Machine
5. The Bigger Picture
6. Behind the Veil
7. Surrender to Reason
8. Along for the Ride
9. Illumination Theory
=================
10. The Glass Prison
11. Strange Deja Vu
12. Afterlife
13. Panic Attack
14. This is the Life
15. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
16. Scarred
17. Take the Time
18. Trial of Tears
----------------------------------
19. In the Name of God

Setlist B:
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
4. Blind Faith
5. Innocence Faded
6. Enigma Machine
7. Through My Words
8. Fatal Tragedy
9. Along for the Ride
10. Illumination Theory
=================
11. In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 1
12. Under A Glass Moon
13. The Bigger Picture
14. Behind the Veil
15. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
16. Only A Matter of Time
17. Surrender to Reason
18. Far From Heaven
19. Breaking All Illusions
----------------------------------
20. Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 22, 2013, 05:18:25 PM
I'm not a great fan of the first choice, for both reasons of opportunity (if a fan didn't dig DTDT you can't ask him or her to sit through the first hour of the show waiting for the songs he likes to show up) and for the presence of TGP (horribili visu!) and In The Name Of God (cool song but for an encore I would rather have many many other songs.

The second is much more balanced and I like it, but don't you think they may have overdone TMW/FT a bit in the last tour for it to come back so early?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 22, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
Haven't heard the album yet, but here I go.

1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Take the Time
4. Along For the Ride
5. Blind Faith
6. Outcry
7. The Looking Glass
8. Lifting Shadows off a Dream
9. Enigma Machine
10. The Shattered Fortress

11. The Killing Hand
12. Surrender to Reason
13. Anna Lee
14. The Bigger Picture
15. Behind The Veil
16. The Mirror/
17. Bridges in the Sky (starts at guitar riff, right out of TM)
18. Octavarium

19. Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 22, 2013, 08:21:51 PM
16. The Mirror/
17. Bridges in the Sky (starts at guitar riff, right out of TM)



I like this idea. A lot.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 22, 2013, 09:25:26 PM
I'm bored again so here I go! (DT should just hire me to do this, I could do it all day!)

1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Build Me Up Break Me Down
-
4. Innocence Faded
5. In the Presence of Enemies Pt 1
6. Enigma Machine
7. The Bigger Picture
-
8. The Great Debate
9. Overture 1928/
10. Strange Deja Vu
11. Outcry

==============

12. The Looking Glass
13. Anna Lee
14. The Killing Hand
15. Octavarium
16. Behind The Veil
17. Surrender to Reason
18. Along For the Ride
19. Illumination Theory

20. Take The Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: YtseJamittaja on September 22, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
This is really not a wish but yesterday I listened to Two Far again in a long time and thought it could be a great song in the setlist. Unexpect move but could be great surprise for diehard fans.  ::)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 23, 2013, 02:39:57 AM
Few of you guys are mentioning Metropolis, hopefully. Don't get me wrong I absolutely love the song, just wanna hear something different. I'll try to make mine soon. It's really difficult for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 23, 2013, 02:43:01 AM
And yet Italy hasn't seen Metropolis in 8 years, not counting the Gods Of Metal festival performance.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 23, 2013, 03:07:41 AM
And yet Italy hasn't seen Metropolis in 8 years, not counting the Gods Of Metal festival performance.

Oh. I didn't think that was for this long time :eek
I've seen them several times outside Italy though, especially in 2009 and 2010. I've probably heard it during those gigs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 23, 2013, 03:11:27 AM
I'm not a great fan of the first choice, for both reasons of opportunity (if a fan didn't dig DTDT you can't ask him or her to sit through the first hour of the show waiting for the songs he likes to show up) and for the presence of TGP (horribili visu!) and In The Name Of God (cool song but for an encore I would rather have many many other songs.

The second is much more balanced and I like it, but don't you think they may have overdone TMW/FT a bit in the last tour for it to come back so early?

Funnily enough I actually prefer my first setlist in terms of non-DT12 songs. I see what you mean about TMW/FT, but seeing as it's the 15th anniversary of SFAM next year, they might make sure they have something representing it. I thought about TDOE, but it might be a bit much alongside Enigma Machine on a regular basis.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 23, 2013, 03:14:01 AM
Plus, the new version of the song with the LALP jam is still unheard of in the rest of the world, and the song wasn't performed extesively in Europe during the last tour.

Seen these premises, I say closing the show with Metropolis for the Euro leg of the AFTR tour would be a good move.

Funnily enough I actually prefer my first setlist in terms of non-DT12 songs. I see what you mean about TMW/FT, but seeing as it's the 15th anniversary of SFAM next year, they might make sure they have something representing it. I thought about TDOE, but it might be a bit much alongside Enigma Machine on a regular basis.

What about Finally Free? It hasn't been in rotation since 2004 and it's as SFAM as you will ever get!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 23, 2013, 03:17:13 AM
As long as they rotate Metropolis so countries like the UK, where it was played at two out of the three summer dates in 2011, don't hear it again.

Finally Free would be a good choice, but I couldn't find a spot for it in the set without removing better songs (or IT, which is pretty much guaranteed).
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 23, 2013, 03:18:46 AM
I just checked I heard Metropolis three times in the past 4 years. That's why I said that :biggrin:
I wouldn't complain if I'll have to hear it again heh ;D even 'cuz I really don't like ITNOG.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 23, 2013, 08:48:16 AM
In an interview with Finnish magazine Soundi JP mysteriously said they may play some album in full on the upcoming tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on September 23, 2013, 09:20:17 AM
In an interview with Finnish magazine Soundi JP mysteriously said they may play some album in full on the upcoming tour.

Hm, there was this one album they released in 1999 :justjen

I'm finding hope in my hopeless life :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: eviljust on September 23, 2013, 09:43:55 AM
That would be a dream come true :)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 23, 2013, 09:51:06 AM
I'll just repost these posts from earlier in the thread with regard to SFAM.

After asking JP tonight, I'd put money on there being a few special shows next year at which they play SFAM.

Well they hadn't thought about the anniversary, but seemed very open to, even enthused by, the idea of playing the album - 'it was the most obvious thing to do'. JP said he'd love to see what MM could do with it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 23, 2013, 12:27:58 PM
I would SO MUCH rather it be Awake, but SFAM would be AWESOME!!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 23, 2013, 12:46:45 PM
What with JP's recent comments regarding SDV, I think Awake in full will have to wait.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 23, 2013, 12:52:51 PM
The only thing is SFAM has already been played in full on two tours. Plus I love the Awake album more.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 23, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
Hearing SFAM in full would be awesome.  If they decide to go through with that, I hope it's not a one-night-only thing.

Honestly, I'd be an extremely happy camper if they played DT12 in one set and SFAM in the other.  That would be incredible.  The encore could be You Not Me and it would still have one of the best setlists I'm likely to ever see at a live show.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on September 23, 2013, 02:27:26 PM
The only thing is SFAM has already been played in full on two tours. Plus I love the Awake album more.

Agree 100%.  This is re-treaded territory.  Sorry to the late comers, but it just wouldn't be special to those who have already seen it on those tours (5 times!!). 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: theseoafs on September 23, 2013, 02:29:27 PM
Believe it or not, the primary purpose of a band is NOT to make things special for one particular group of people. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 23, 2013, 06:31:52 PM
I wasn't a DT fan until 2011 and I said that... BOOM haha


Seriously though, it would be incredibly special if I got to see SFAM. Just MORE special if it was Awake. As in "incredibly special" against "ridiculously extremely special".
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 23, 2013, 09:34:05 PM
what about both?

Especially Special?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 23, 2013, 10:08:38 PM
Quite. I would TOTALLY want that. I love really random and crazy set lists. Weird flows are absolutely no problem for me. Although I enjoy great flows too, don't get me wrong.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on September 24, 2013, 12:00:32 AM
I'll say it again, DT12 as the first set, SFAM as the second and Octavarium (song) as an encore would be the greatest show ever :heart
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 24, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
Make it ACOS and I would be happier. Believe it or not.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on September 24, 2013, 12:15:37 AM
Let's change it to Space-Dye Vest + 8VM ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 24, 2013, 04:24:10 AM
I'm really re-thinking seeing them this tour, like I said here:

I'm just sitting here thinking that whether or not I like this album will decide whether or not I go see them this first leg of the tour. I mean, I already dislike the major part of everything they did from and including Octavarium up to this point, so that's legitimately almost half of the setlist, add another album they'll be promoting that I'm not sold on and it'll probably be pointless to travel to another country (even if it's relatively close and I get to meet DTFers and I technically speak the language :xbones) and give up a shitload of other shows in this period just to see them.

Even if they do play for three hours or play LTL or SDV or whatever, they've been straying from what I like to listen to since before I even started listening to them, at some point you gotta admit a band and you are going separate ways.
Since I'm not really crazy about the new album, and they'll likely be playing it safer with the setlist than I'd like them to, I'm questioning it. They probably won't be doing the SFAM thing in Europe, and they probably won't do anything related to Awake at all, unless they play a show around the album anniversary, which is in October. SDV won't be dug up on this tour, even though the time is perfect, and neither will any song that doesn't get the crowd pumped up. Which is understandable, since they've written many live-show-ready songs over the years, they might as well just do those... but that's just one side of the DT I love.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 24, 2013, 07:49:12 AM
I've already bought a ticket, so it's too late for me to regret :sadpanda:







Just kidding... The new album isn't fantastic, but they only come here every 2 years and it's an evening with DT, so I bet I would regret not going afterwards. I know they'll play my least favorite songs, because those are the single, the instrumental and the epic, so they might as well play the whole album. Hopefully the songs I'm not crazy about will sound better at the show...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on September 24, 2013, 08:15:10 AM
The new album isn't fantastic

...in your opinion. I'm pretty sure it will eventually replace ADTOE as my #5, maybe even Awake as #4.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 24, 2013, 11:12:10 PM
The new album isn't fantastic
...in your opinion.
Yes, but my opinions are facts :neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on September 25, 2013, 01:51:57 AM
The new album isn't fantastic
...in your opinion.
Yes, but my opinions are facts :neverusethis:

As are mine ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Fronobulax on September 25, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
Was watching when dream and day reunite the other day and it occurred to me that they could possibly play it in full this tour seeing as it would be very close to its 25th anniversary and it was last played in full on its 15th anniversary. (would much rather prefer awake or SFAM though)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 26, 2013, 12:20:02 AM
I'd love to see a WDADU anniversary show, but it won't happen because the band aren't extremely proud of that album and it's kind of unknown to many fans. Besides, the band didn't play I&W in full last year even though it was the 20th anniversary of that album and judging by JP's comments we won't see Space-Dye Vest live soon, so I think SFAM is the only album with the potential of an anniversary show.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 26, 2013, 01:12:08 AM
I'd love to see a WDADU anniversary show, but it won't happen because the band aren't extremely proud of that album and it's kind of unknown to many fans. Besides, the band didn't play I&W in full last year even though it was the 20th anniversary of that album and judging by JP's comments we won't see Space-Dye Vest live soon, so I think SFAM is the only album with the potential of an anniversary show.

They did, on the date of I&W's release, play some extra songs from I&W during the encore. I'd say this is a more likely scenario, even if it's across the tour, where they play a select few songs from Awake and/or SFAM.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 26, 2013, 01:15:56 AM
They did, on the date of I&W's release, play some extra songs from I&W during the encore. I'd say this is a more likely scenario, even if it's across the tour, where they play a select few songs from Awake and/or SFAM.
I know, but Fronobulax was talking about playing albums in full. Anyway, it seems that MP was more into these nostalgia events than the rest of the band and I remember Setlist Scotty (or someone else with connections to the band) saying they reminded JP of the I&W anniversary.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on September 26, 2013, 02:27:14 AM
I'll say it again, DT12 as the first set, SFAM as the second and Octavarium (song) as an encore would be the greatest show ever :heart

agree :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 26, 2013, 02:20:10 PM
Now that I've heard the album-


*No intro tape or anything. Just pitch black and the band walks out; if you have good eyesight, you might be able to see them, but no lights until they start. Mangini counts to four and...*
1. False Awakening Suite (I'm imagining the lights flashing on stage to the rhythm of the intro while they play :metal)
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
-JLB says hi
4. Take The Time
5. This Dying Soul
6. Enigma Machine
7. The Bigger Picture
8. Piano solo/ About To Crash
9. Constant Motion
-JLB talks again with soft soothing voice while JR improvs softly
10. Far From Heaven
11. Vacant
12. The Killing Hand

--Intermission--

13. Behind The Veil
14. Surrender to Reason
15. On the Backs of Angels
16. Raw Dog/ (end with the main abrupt rhythm thing, pause a second and go into-)
17. Strange Deja Vu
18. I Walk Beside You (with heartbeat and ticking intro)
-JLB introduces AFTR
19. Along For The Ride
20. Illumination Theory

21. 6:00
22. Learning to Live


about 2hr 45 min + 15 minute intermission (if I added it up right).
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 26, 2013, 03:16:51 PM
Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on September 26, 2013, 03:57:43 PM
Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked :D


(Mind you I love 6:00 and don't mind RawDog... i just think it would flow better this way)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 26, 2013, 04:51:13 PM
Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.

Oh I didn't think about that  :-\ Yea I guess just they switch quickly and the transition takes as long as it takes. Or actually, can a 6 stg song be played on a 7 stg? Or do you literally mean tuning like drop D or something?


Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked :D

Naah, I like this way  :) Raw Dog and 6:00 more exciting in the context of this set (key words "in context". The main reason I'm terrible at rating DT songs and albums).
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on September 26, 2013, 05:39:48 PM
Raw Dog into Strange Deja Vu wouldn't work that quickly because of totally different guitar/bass tunings. If they actually perform FAS, that might be the case as well unless JP/JM switch their instruments quickly.

Oh I didn't think about that  :-\ Yea I guess just they switch quickly and the transition takes as long as it takes. Or actually, can a 6 stg song be played on a 7 stg? Or do you literally mean tuning like drop D or something?


Change RawDog/ Strange DV into Overture 1928/SDV and 6:00 to Wait For Sleep and I'll be hooked :D

Naah, I like this way  :) Raw Dog and 6:00 more exciting in the context of this set (key words "in context". The main reason I'm terrible at rating DT songs and albums).

Well, not only is Raw Dog on a 7-string, but it's ALSO tuned down to A. So they would have to physically switch instruments.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Nofire on September 29, 2013, 05:18:22 AM
This might be considered blasphemy around here, but i REALLY hope they don't do SFAM in its entirety when I see them in Stockholm, or any other album for that matter. I'm not a big fan of the "play a whole album" format, unless it's a full stage production of The Wall, which is so much more than just the music. For me, it shuts the door to hearing songs that I like more, especially if they are going to cram a bunch of new songs in there as well.

As for what I would like to hear instead:

TGP (to start the second set)
Home
LTL (would be an amazing encore)
8VM
ACOS (although I can't see it happening if they also do 8VM, and maybe neither will fit in since I'm sure they'll play IT)
LSOAD
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on September 29, 2013, 06:22:04 AM
I'd be surprised if they played SFAM in full, because that would take the attention away from the new album, which DT are supposed to promote. That said, I think it's possible that there could be a second leg dedicated to the SFAM anniversary later in 2014.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 29, 2013, 08:39:05 AM
I'd be surprised if they played SFAM in full, because that would take the attention away from the new album, which DT are supposed to promote. That said, I think it's possible that there could be a second leg dedicated to the SFAM anniversary later in 2014.

My thoughts as well. I'm not expecting anything (and I'm glad of it) for the first couple of world legs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 29, 2013, 09:04:14 AM
I don't think there'll even be a full leg for SFAM. I think a few special shows in the usual big cities could well happen though.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on September 29, 2013, 03:43:22 PM
I don't think there'll even be a full leg for SFAM. I think a few special shows in the usual big cities could well happen though.

But those would be on second nights, right? There are no second nights in the EU leg.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 29, 2013, 04:07:51 PM
Well I was thinking a few shows within the space of a couple of weeks, after the main legs of the tour had taken place.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Progmetty on September 30, 2013, 07:22:23 AM
Fellas fellas fellas..
I love this discussion.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on September 30, 2013, 09:07:17 AM
I love pointless tour discussion.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 30, 2013, 09:14:59 AM
I do too! I can't stop myself from trying to have pointless tour discussion with all my friends, even if they might not like Dream Theater.. It usually doesn't last long...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Progmetty on September 30, 2013, 12:11:41 PM
It's weird cause I really hate album pre-release speculation discussions, where it literally sounds like people are pulls guesses out of their asses while for the most case people keep it realistic in the tour predictions/expectations discussion.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on September 30, 2013, 04:23:51 PM
It's weird cause I really hate album pre-release speculation discussions, where it literally sounds like people are pulls guesses out of their asses while for the most case people keep it realistic in the tour predictions/expectations discussion.

Set 1:

A Change of Seasons
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Octavarium
Illumination Theory
In the Presence of Enemies

Set 2:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Scenes From a Memory
Images and Words

Encore:

Space Dye Vest
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

:neverusethis: :footloose: :neverusethis: :footloose: :neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on September 30, 2013, 04:36:38 PM
It's weird cause I really hate album pre-release speculation discussions, where it literally sounds like people are pulls guesses out of their asses while for the most case people keep it realistic in the tour predictions/expectations discussion.


Encore:

Space Dye Vest
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

Set 1:
A Change of Seasons
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Octavarium
Illumination Theory
In the Presence of Enemies

Set 2:
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Scenes From a Memory
Images and Words


:neverusethis: :footloose: :neverusethis: :footloose: :neverusethis:

FTFY
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Progmetty on October 01, 2013, 09:11:20 AM
:lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 08, 2013, 10:54:04 AM
https://loudwire.com/dream-theater-john-petrucci-new-album-2014-tour/

"Dream Theater’s worldwide tour is set to start in early 2014. How are plans coming along? Have you built the setlists yet?

We have already been working on the tour for about a month now and there are all sorts of preparations in terms of design of the stage, video that will be using, and of course the setlist, which we’ve pretty much blocked out already. Given the reaction to the new album, we want to feature as much music from it as we can but we have so much material, at the same time, that we want to be careful not to leave some important things out. We want to pay tribute to some of our music that is coming up on an anniversary and we also want to play some things that we’ve never played before onstage. I think that if you’re a longtime fan you will leave the show feeling really satisfied. But if you’re new to the band, you’ll also be drawn in by the variety of music you’ll be hearing. This tour is unique for us because we’ll be the only ones up there, it’s simply an evening with Dream Theater. So our goal is to show people a really good time and give them the full-on Dream Theater experience".
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 08, 2013, 11:17:49 AM
OMG
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on October 08, 2013, 12:21:39 PM
 :omg: Sounds good man :hat
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on October 08, 2013, 02:27:46 PM
https://loudwire.com/dream-theater-john-petrucci-new-album-2014-tour/

"Dream Theater’s worldwide tour is set to start in early 2014. How are plans coming along? Have you built the setlists yet?

We have already been working on the tour for about a month now and there are all sorts of preparations in terms of design of the stage, video that will be using, and of course the setlist, which we’ve pretty much blocked out already. Given the reaction to the new album, we want to feature as much music from it as we can but we have so much material, at the same time, that we want to be careful not to leave some important things out. We want to pay tribute to some of our music that is coming up on an anniversary and we also want to play some things that we’ve never played before onstage. I think that if you’re a longtime fan you will leave the show feeling really satisfied. But if you’re new to the band, you’ll also be drawn in by the variety of music you’ll be hearing. This tour is unique for us because we’ll be the only ones up there, it’s simply an evening with Dream Theater. So our goal is to show people a really good time and give them the full-on Dream Theater experience".

INB4 SDV
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 08, 2013, 02:35:41 PM
They've played Strange Deja Vu before    :neverusethis:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 08, 2013, 03:02:57 PM
God I'm so excited!!!!! I hope it's Shattered Fortress!!! I mean there's only 3 choices aside from non-album tracks, right?

BUT HOLY CRAP AAAGGHHHH!!

Actually on second thought I hope it's Space Dye Vest and they're playing Awake in its entirety rather than Scenes!!


Or wait a second... What if they are using a string ensemble for IT and the never before played thing is the 6 Degrees Overture in its original form??


How about all of it?

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite (Intro tape)
Enemy Inside
Looking Glass
Behind The Veil
The Bigger Picture
On The Backs of Angels
Scenes From a Memory (15 year anniversary)

Set 2 (With orchestra):

Overture (6Doit)
Losing Time/Grand Finale
Octavarium
Illumination Theory

Encore:
Awake (20yr anniversary)






Encore 2:
When Dream And Day Unite (25 year anniversary)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on October 08, 2013, 03:52:11 PM
Never before on stage.  :corn

Hoping for SDV, dreading Raw Dog.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 08, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
Space Dog Vest medley
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on October 08, 2013, 04:15:37 PM
Never before on stage.  :corn

Hoping for SDV, dreading Raw Dog.
I would be shocked if they played Raw Dog. Shocked!

Disappointed though? Nope.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 08, 2013, 04:23:42 PM
I'd love to see Raw Dog
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 08, 2013, 05:31:32 PM
Hmm, it wouldn't be high on my list of priorities.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on October 09, 2013, 12:59:01 AM
I know JP hasn't outright denied the existence of Raw Dog, but the fact that he said they haven't written an instrumental in a long time makes me believe RD isn't very high on their priority list.

Playing SDV would be logical, because it's never been played live and it would commemorate the 20th anniversary of Awake, but we'll see...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: theseoafs on October 09, 2013, 08:40:07 AM
God I'm so excited!!!!! I hope it's Shattered Fortress!!!

Uggghhghghgh I would be very unhappy if this is one of the things JP is hyping in this interview.  I'm rooting for SDV, which would be fun to hear even though it's not one of my very favorite DT songs.  I anticipate hearing a substantial chunk of SFAM.  Not the whole thing, but maybe the run of Overture 1928 through Fatal Tragedy with Home and The Spirit Carries On thrown in.  We might get a little bit of Awake too. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on October 12, 2013, 07:04:29 PM
If Jordan shits all over overcomplicates Space-Dye Vest again it won't be worth it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Raise the Drum on October 23, 2013, 07:10:09 PM
So.... it is time to do this.

Obviously, for this tour, they will begin the setlist with FAS and i think they will try to play all of the songs from the new album.
Considering that this is "An Evening With..." i guess it will be around 2 hrs 30 min or something like that.

I don't have my setlist done yet, but there are some songs that I'd never listened live like Home, Misunderstood, Just let me Breathe, Learning to live (whole song), Overture 1928 and so many others. I would really like to hear those songs. :biggrin:

So, show me your dream setlists for this tour.  :tup
Which tracks would you bring back to stage? which ones would you stop playing for a while?

Go! :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 23, 2013, 07:32:23 PM
In the other thread I came up with these-

*Huge list of set lists that takes up a lot of room and is entirely pointless now that these threads are merged*
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Ad134 on October 23, 2013, 07:37:57 PM
Here's my setlist (with enough songs from DT12 to be mildly realistic)

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Take The Time
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
A Mind Beside Itself: Erotomania, Voices, The Silent Man
The Bigger Picture

Set 2:

Enigma Machine
The Glass Prison
Vacant
Stream of Consciousness
This Is The Life
Surrender to Reason
Along For The Ride
Metropolis Pt. 1

Encore:

Illumination Theory



...And here's my unreasonable, unbalanced, dream setlist:

Set 1:

False Awakening Suite
Vacant
Stream of Consciousness
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
Octavarium

Set 2:

Awake. Like, the whole album

Encore:

Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 23, 2013, 07:50:25 PM
Set 1: Approximately 1 hour and 30 minutes

The Enemy Inside (following FAS intro)
Behind the Veil
The Bigger Picture
Surrender to Reason
Special SFAM Anniversary mini-block:
     Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy
     Through Her Eyes
     Home
     Finally Free
Illumination Theory

15 Minute Intermission

Set 2: Approximately 1 hour and 15 minutes

Ytse Jam
Learning to Live
Innocence Faded
Disappear
Hollow Years (extended guitar solo)
Trial of Tears
----Encore----
ACOS

Total evening with Dream Theater: 3 hours.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on October 23, 2013, 07:53:12 PM
I love evening with sets...

False Awakening Suite/
The Enemy Inside/
Just Let Me Breathe
Beyond This Life
Goodnight Kiss/
Solitary Shell
Enigma Machine/
The Mirror/
Lie/
The Bigger Picture
The Looking Glass/
Along For The Ride
The Answer Lies Within/
These Walls
Illumination Theory
---Intermission---
The Glass Prison/
Behind The Veil
Vacant/
Stream of Consciousness
Under A Glass Moon/
Surrender To Reason/
Guitar/Keyboard Solo Spot/
Trial of Tears
---Encore---
The Count of Tuscany (with free jam/extended ambient section)

Approximately 3.25 hours with a longer first set (of shorter songs)...

Purposely left out WDADU and ADTOE, to include Train of Thought/BC&SL songs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 23, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
WOW I am really enjoying some of these. Keep them coming people!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on October 23, 2013, 08:02:35 PM
With all the seven string songs on the new album, it kind of forced me into grouping them with other seven string songs from older albums, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 23, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
DUDE?? What the heck you edited out ACOS??
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ResultsMayVary on October 23, 2013, 08:14:57 PM
They could be interchangeable! I think it would be cooler to see them jam out in that ambient section of TCOT, personally.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: CharlesPL on October 23, 2013, 08:31:04 PM
Nr.1

Set 1:
1.DT 12

Set 2:

2.Awake
3.Blind Faith

Encore:
4.A Change Of Seasons

Nr.2

1.False Awakening Suite
2.The Enemy Inside
3.Scarred
4.Wither
5.Enigma Machine
6.The Bigger Picture
7.Take The Time
8.Through Her Eyes
9.Home
10.In The Name Of God

Intermission

11.Octavarium
12.Behind The Veil
13.Along For The Ride
14.Ligh Fuse And Get Away
15.Don't Look Past Me
16.Never Enough
17.Surrender To Reason
19.The Looking Glass
18.Repentance
19.Space Dye-Vest(Or Metropolis pt.1)

Encore:

20.Illumination Theory

Nr.3

1.False Awakening Suite
2.The Enemy Inside
3.The Looking Glass
4.Enigma Machine
5.Another Hand/Killing Hand
6.Another Day
7.Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
8.Trial Of Tears
9.Raw Dog
10.Surrender To Reason
11.Along For The Ride
12.The Bigger Picture

Intermission

13.SFAM
14.Behind The Veil

Encore 1:
15.Illumination Theory

Encore 2:

16.Pull Me Under/Metropolis

Nr 4.

1.False Awakening Suite
2.The Enemy Inside
3.The Looking Glass
4.Status Seeker
5.Learning To Live
6.Enigma Machine
7.Innocence Faded
8.Anna Lee
9.The Bigger Picture
10.Overture 1928/Strange Deja-Vu
11.The Glass Prison
12.Behind The Veil

Intermission

13.As I Am
14.This Dying Soul
15.Surrender To Reason
16.The Answer Lies Within
17.Along For The Ride
18.Prophets Of War
19.The Shattered Fortress
20.Lost Not Forgotten
21.To Live Forever
22.Speak To Me

Encore 1:

23.Illumination Theory

Encore 2:

24.Eve/The Crimson Sunset




Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: King Postwhore on October 23, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
Please Rhayader, don't post your setlist.  With your taste, I may rip my eyes out. :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: adastra on October 24, 2013, 12:15:40 AM
I Would Like something like this to happen at Helsinki;
Keep in mind that it is 2014 then and almost 20 yrs since awake :3

Set 1

1.  Intro / Just Let Me Breathe
2.  Burning My Soul
3.  Behind The Veil
4.  Surrender To Reason
5.  Answer Lies Within
6.  I Walk Beside You
7.  Lines In The Sand
8.  Beyond This Life
9.  Trial Of Tears
--------------------
Set 2

10-20.  Awake
--------------------
Encore

21.  Along Of The Ride
22.  Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on October 24, 2013, 02:35:29 AM
Please Rhayader, don't post your setlist.  With your taste, I may rip my eyes out. :lol

1st encore: Metropolis, 2nd encore (especially special nights only): Status Seeker


Boys and fogey, I love this threads  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Polarbear on October 24, 2013, 04:30:29 AM
Set 1:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Forsaken
Raise The Knife
Learning To Live
Scarred
The Bigger Picture
In The Presence Of Enemies (Part 1&2)

Set 2:

The Count Of Tuscany
The Glass Prison
These Walls
This Dying Soul
On The Backs Of Angels
Home
Wither
Breaking All Illusions

Encore:

Through Her Eyes
Illumination Theory
Metropolis Part. 1

This would be great!  :corn
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Curious Orange on October 24, 2013, 04:40:11 AM
Ideal Setlist:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Pull Me Under
The Killing Hand
Enigma Machine
Outcry
The Bigger Picture
Erotomania
Voices
The Silent Man
~~~~~~
Behind the Veil
Trial of Tears
Surrender to Reason
Along for the Ride
Wither
Illumination Theory
~~~~~~
Home
Learning to Live
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: romdrums on October 24, 2013, 09:18:09 AM
Realistically speaking:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
The Mirror/Lie outro
Hollow Years
Home
The Dance of Eternity
The Bigger Picture
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Breaking All Illusions

-intermission-

Enigma Machine
Behind the Veil
On the Backs of Angels
Scarred
Along for the Ride
Forsaken
Wait for Sleep
Learning to Live

encore:
Illumination Theory



Would be awesome to see:

In the Presence of Enemies
A Mind Beside Itself
In the Name of God
Illumination Theory
-----------------
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Octavarium
Illumination Theory

encore:
A Change of Seasons

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 24, 2013, 09:46:21 AM
I am really loving this thread. Every setlist.

Especially this-
Would be awesome to see:

In the Presence of Enemies
A Mind Beside Itself
In the Name of God
Illumination Theory
-----------------
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Octavarium
Illumination Theory

encore:
A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 24, 2013, 09:52:41 AM
^^^ I wouldn't complain, but damn that setlist has absolutely no balance. There are plenty of shorter songs better than those epics
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: KevShmev on October 24, 2013, 10:15:21 AM
I'll go with what I think would be great:

Set 1
False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Take the Time
Misunderstood
The Bigger Picture
Voices or In the Presence of Enemies Part 1 (rotated)
Wither
Enigma Machine
Breaking All Illusions or In the Name of God (rotated)

Set 2
As I Am
The Mirror/Lie outro
Behind the Veil
Hell's Kitchen
Lines in the Sand
Another Day or Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (rotated)
Surrender to Reason
The Spirit Carries On
Illumination Theory

Encore
Home
Bridges in the Sky
Illumination Theory piano/guitar outro (outro tape)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: hauswife on October 24, 2013, 10:22:19 AM
i tried to do my own setlist. i came up with this

1st set: (1h15m)
false awakening suite
the enemy inside
honor thy father
misunderstood
behind the veil
the looking glass
the bigger picture
hells kitchen
lines in the sand
finally free

intermission

2nd set: (1h20m)
only a matter of time
lifting shadows off a dream
trial of tears
surrender to reason
these walls
to live forever
learning to live
octavarium

encore:
Illumination theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 24, 2013, 10:50:08 AM
^That is definitely one of my favorites made so far. :clap:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on October 24, 2013, 10:53:33 AM
That's a "Shut up and take my money setlist"  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Polarbear on October 24, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
I am really loving this thread. Every setlist.

Especially this-
Would be awesome to see:

In the Presence of Enemies
A Mind Beside Itself
In the Name of God
Illumination Theory
-----------------
Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
Octavarium
Illumination Theory

encore:
A Change of Seasons

If they actually played this setlist one day, i would travel to Saint Petersburg, Stockholm and Oslo just to see it 4 times. :biggrin: Fourth being Helsinki of course.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 24, 2013, 11:19:06 AM
That's a "Shut up and take my money setlist"  :lol

Pretty much how every setlist should be.. No BS just freaking play the freaking best songs that you know we all want to hear!  :lol pretty much why the ADTOE setlists were so damn good aside from TSCO

I'm not sure I'm 100% serious about this, but in some ways I just want one climax after another.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 24, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
I'll eventually merge this with the main predictions thread, but for now I'll just post what I posted there:

Setlist A:
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
4. Enigma Machine
5. The Bigger Picture
6. Behind the Veil
7. Surrender to Reason
8. Along for the Ride
9. Illumination Theory
=================
10. The Glass Prison
11. Strange Deja Vu
12. Afterlife
13. Panic Attack
14. This is the Life
15. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
16. Scarred
17. Take the Time
18. Trial of Tears
----------------------------------
19. In the Name of God

Setlist B:
1. False Awakening Suite
2. The Enemy Inside
3. The Looking Glass
4. Blind Faith
5. Innocence Faded
6. Enigma Machine
7. Through My Words
8. Fatal Tragedy
9. Along for the Ride
10. Illumination Theory
=================
11. In the Presence of Enemies, Pt. 1
12. Under A Glass Moon
13. The Bigger Picture
14. Behind the Veil
15. Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
16. Only A Matter of Time
17. Surrender to Reason
18. Far From Heaven
19. Breaking All Illusions
----------------------------------
20. Octavarium/A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Xersiz on October 24, 2013, 12:23:20 PM
I'd really enjoy a 40 minute epics mash-up/medley containing Change of Seasons/Octavarium/In The Presence/Tuscany and Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 24, 2013, 12:30:45 PM
I'd hate that.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Dream Team on October 24, 2013, 01:04:28 PM
I doubt that they are going to abandon On the Backs of Angels so soon, they usually keep the singles in the setlists for awhile.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on October 24, 2013, 04:42:04 PM
I'd hate that.

This and of course it's never happening. JP is a sound band leader  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on October 25, 2013, 10:54:48 AM
I've posted some already, but what the hay, though I'd give it another go:

1. False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Just Let Me Breathe
4. Panic Attack

SFAM Anniversary:
5. Strange Deja-Vu
6. Through Her Eyes (w/ full band ala LSFNY)
7. Finally Free

8. Along for the Ride
9. Trial of Tears
10. On the Backs of Angels
11. The Bigger Picture
---intermission---
12. The Glass Prison
13. The Looking Glass

Awake Anniversary:
14. The Mirror/The Mirror (reprise)
15. Scarred
16. Space-Dye Vest

17. Surrender to Reason
18. Illumination Theory
---encore---
19. DT12 Easter Egg
20. In the Name of God
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on October 25, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
That would be pretty awesome :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 25, 2013, 03:09:32 PM
I've posted some already, but what the hay, though I'd give it another go:

1. False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Just Let Me Breathe
4. Panic Attack

SFAM Anniversary:
5. Strange Deja-Vu
6. Through Her Eyes (w/ full band ala LSFNY)
7. Finally Free

8. Along for the Ride
9. Trial of Tears
10. On the Backs of Angels
11. The Bigger Picture
---intermission---
12. The Glass Prison
13. The Looking Glass

Awake Anniversary:
14. The Mirror/The Mirror (reprise)
15. Scarred
16. Space-Dye Vest

17. Surrender to Reason
18. Illumination Theory
---encore---
19. DT12 Easter Egg
20. In the Name of God

YOU ARE A GOD!

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on October 25, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
i tried to do my own setlist. i came up with this

1st set: (1h15m)
false awakening suite
the enemy inside
honor thy father
misunderstood
behind the veil
the looking glass
the bigger picture
hells kitchen
lines in the sand
finally free

intermission

2nd set: (1h20m)
only a matter of time
lifting shadows off a dream
trial of tears
surrender to reason
these walls
to live forever
learning to live
octavarium

encore:
Illumination theory

Great setlist, especially Lines in the Sand and Trial of Tears in the same list.  Substitute Blind Faith(love the drums) for Misunderstood and add Surrounded and that would be a dream setlist for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on October 26, 2013, 12:12:58 AM
I've posted some already, but what the hay, though I'd give it another go:

1. False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Just Let Me Breathe
4. Panic Attack

SFAM Anniversary:
5. Strange Deja-Vu
6. Through Her Eyes (w/ full band ala LSFNY)
7. Finally Free

8. Along for the Ride
9. Trial of Tears
10. On the Backs of Angels
11. The Bigger Picture
---intermission---
12. The Glass Prison
13. The Looking Glass

Awake Anniversary:
14. The Mirror/The Mirror (reprise)
15. Scarred
16. Space-Dye Vest

17. Surrender to Reason
18. Illumination Theory
---encore---
19. DT12 Easter Egg
20. In the Name of God
There's a serious lack of I&W... Replace Panic Attack with Take the Time (and one of the new songs with Behind the Veil) and you have a solid setlist.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 26, 2013, 01:54:29 AM
You guys are all being silly.. We already know for a fact at least one song that they are playing, yet not one of you have included it in your sets...

https://youtu.be/c7ox5X5E9Mw?t=2m22s
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on October 26, 2013, 01:35:15 PM
Am I allowed to go to 3:20 + talking and intermission?


False Awakening Suite (Intro tape)
Surrender to Reason
Honor Thy Father or This Dying Soul
-
The Looking Glass
Take The Time
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
The Ones Who Helped to Set the Sun
Panic Attack
Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
-
Along For the Ride

============

Nightmare to Remember
The Enemy Inside
Another Won
On The Backs of Angels
-
Space Dye Vest
Anna Lee
Finally Free
The Glass Prison
Outcry
-
Behind The Veil
Illumination Theory

Metropolis
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 26, 2013, 06:11:28 PM
Its so unbalanced. lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on October 26, 2013, 08:09:27 PM
Here is my list

False Awakening Suite - intro tape
The Enemy Inside
6:00
The Bigger Picture
Overture
Strange Deja Vu
Behind the Veil
Bridges in the Sky
Lines in the Sand

intermission

The Looking Glass
These Walls
Surrounded
Enigma Machine
Wither
Hollow Years - Extended guitar version
Breaking All Illusions
Blind Faith

1st Encore
Illumination Theory

2nd Encore
Learning To Live
Trial of Tears
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucidity on October 27, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
You guys are all being silly.. We already know for a fact at least one song that they are playing, yet not one of you have included it in your sets...

https://youtu.be/c7ox5X5E9Mw?t=2m22s

Since no one else has said anything about this... I'll just say that you win. Everything.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: tuto on October 27, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
You guys are all being silly.. We already know for a fact at least one song that they are playing, yet not one of you have included it in your sets...

https://youtu.be/c7ox5X5E9Mw?t=2m22s

Since no one else has said anything about this... I'll just say that you win. Everything.

What is this?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: m0hawk on October 28, 2013, 10:09:37 AM
There are 4 songs I can 100% guarantee will be played at every gig this tour:

On The Backs Of Angels
False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Illumination Theory

Other than that, I'm hoping DT would pick some really unexpected gems!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 28, 2013, 12:11:24 PM
I'm not sure OTBOA is guaranteed.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on October 28, 2013, 12:21:13 PM
And FAS will be an intro tape...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on October 28, 2013, 05:03:44 PM
I swear it, one of these days I'm going to take the time to come up with a decent couple of setlists for this game.  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mikemangioy on October 29, 2013, 07:10:30 AM
Here's my take:

1st set:
-False Awakening Suite (intro)-
Behind The Veil
Panic Attack
--
Surrender To Reason
Peruvian Skies
Blind Faith

Awake 20th anniversary spot:
The Mirror
Lie
Space-Dye Vest

Vacant
Stream Of Consciousness

2nd set:
-Former military PTSD intro video-
The Enemy Inside
-keyboard solo -
Enigma Machine
This Is The Life
Constant Motion
--
The Looking Glass (final note, count 4 into..)

Metropolis Part 2 15th anniversary spot:
Strange Deja Vu
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy ("but only a transition", count 4..)

The Bigger Picture
-Illumination Theory intro tape (the part before the triplet riff)-
Illumination Theory

encore:
Along For The Ride
Metropolis
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on October 30, 2013, 04:28:29 AM
I quite like that set, but I wouldn't want TMoLS anywhere near it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on November 08, 2013, 11:09:31 AM
Ok this is one of my favorites. My friend and I came up with it. Almost exactly 3 hours too, depending on how you count FAS. So add in space between songs, talking, little instrumental introductions/improvs and you might get like 3:10.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
Take The Time
-
Blind Faith
The Bigger Picture/
Through My Words/
Fatal Tragedy
Behind The Veil
- (announce Awake anniversary)
The Mirror/
Lie
Scarred
Space Dye Vest

----

(SFAM anniversary intro tape)
Regression
Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
Forsaken
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Answer Lies Within
Vacant
The Killing Hand
Surrender To Reason
Along For The Ride
Illumination Theory

The Shattered Fortress
On The Backs Of Angels
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mike099 on November 08, 2013, 07:37:50 PM
I would take that list.  Would love to see some version of  The Shattered Fortress.  Not many folks around here like TSF, but I think it would kick some major ass live.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 08, 2013, 09:07:53 PM
Shuffle it around a tad and I'd take it. I'd kinda like to see Killing Hand and TSF switched though :JayOctavarium:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on November 08, 2013, 09:16:46 PM
Shuffle it around a tad and I'd take it. I'd kinda like to see Killing Hand and TSF switched though :JayOctavarium:

TKH would work much better in an encore, although I can think of better songs to go in it's place. Either way, TSF would work after Vacant very well because they share the same key of C#m.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on November 15, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
Ok this one is great too. I'd LOVE to see this-

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
The Great Debate/
On The Backs of Angels
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil/
In The Presence of Enemies 1 and 2


Surrender To Reason
The Ones Who Helped To Set The Sun
Lost Not Forgotten
The Mirror/
Bridges in the Sky (starts with main riff straight out of TM)
Vacant
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory

Finally Free
Take The Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 15, 2013, 01:50:04 PM
Ok this one is great too. I'd LOVE to see this-

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
The Great Debate/
On The Backs of Angels
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil/
In The Presence of Enemies 1 and 2


Surrender To Reason
The Ones Who Helped To Set The Sun
Lost Not Forgotten
The Mirror/
Bridges in the Sky (starts with main riff straight out of TM)
Vacant
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory

Easter Egg/
Finally Free

Take The Time


Fixed it with a bit from Gasper


Also too bad I doubt TGD will get pulled out again despite how much I love the song... It was so awesome live!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on November 15, 2013, 02:24:31 PM
Ok this one is great too. I'd LOVE to see this-

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
The Great Debate/
On The Backs of Angels
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Behind The Veil/
In The Presence of Enemies 1 and 2


Surrender To Reason
The Ones Who Helped To Set The Sun
Lost Not Forgotten
The Mirror/
Bridges in the Sky (starts with main riff straight out of TM)
Vacant
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory

Finally Free
Take The Time

This is great, but I want to make some adjustments.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
---JLB awkward speech---
Honor Thy Father
Misunderstood
Behind The Veil/
In The Presence of Enemies 1
Wither
Hell's Kitchen/
Keyboard Solo/
Lines in the Sand
The Bigger Picture

The Glass Prison
Surrender To Reason
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Enigma Machine/
The Mirror/
The Mirror Reprise
Space-Dye Vest
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory

Easter Egg Heaven
Finally Free
Take The Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on November 15, 2013, 02:56:43 PM
you're not gonna believe this, but I actually meant for the Easter Egg to be right before FF in the encore. I forgot to write it and you guys reminded me!  :lol So that'd be perfect. Also my set was 2:56 will just the songs and no talking, so that's probably perfect length.

And I like that set too Gasper! I'd love to see M, HTF, SDV, TGP, HK, and LITS, but there's no way I'd take out ITPOE (one of DT's very best songs ever). Especially if you're gonna include Wither which is probably one of the only two DT songs I don't care to see particularly. However, I might take TGD, OTBOA, and BITS interchangeably with your other choices.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on November 19, 2013, 11:50:13 PM
I decided to create a pair of setlists that are mostly similar, but have a few songs swapped between them, like they did on the ADTOE tour. Each one has 7 out of 9 songs from the new album. Each one also has a three-song anniversary spot for Awake in one set, and SFAM in the other, both equalling about 25 minutes from each album. Each set is about 2 h 50 m.

Set A / Set B (obviously where there is no backslash, is a common song between the two sets)

1. False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
2. The Enemy Inside
3. Afterlife / Under a Glass Moon
4. Surrender to Reason / The Looking Glass
5. Misunderstood

---Awake/SFAM Anniversary---
6. Voices / Strange Deja Vu
7. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream/  Beyond This Life
8. Space-Dye Vest / The Dance of Eternity

9. Enigma Machine
10. The Count of Tuscany

---intermission---

11. As I Am
12. Hell's Kitchen
13. Lines in the Sand
14. Along for the Ride / Behind the Veil
15. Lost Not Forgotten
16. The Bigger Picture
17. Sacrificed Sons / The Killing Hand
18. Illumination Theory

---encore---
19. Take the Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Panos_Ytsejam on November 20, 2013, 02:53:45 AM
Ok, let's say that I'm not a fan but a dt member. The tour will be an evening with... And an intermission around 15 minutes and each part of the set will be one hour and a half. The part1 will be the whole new album plus songs until S.F.A.M. And the part two the rest plus a encore, so:

First part

dream theater self titled album entire
A fortune in lies
Under a glass moon
Scarred
Peruvian skies
Home

Second part

Glass prison
As I am
Walk besides you
Forsaken
A nightmare to remember
Outcry

Encore
On the backs of angels
Metropolis pt1

Extreme and a huge dream to see live the ACOS song,


See you in London, I'll come for this from Greece!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on November 20, 2013, 11:37:43 AM
Both great sets. I'd take either. I think maybe Pason_Ytsejam's is slightly better if I had to choose, but I'm not sure. Turn OTBOA and M into one of the epic ACOS, TCOT, 8vm, or ITPOE and I wouldn't even think twice.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on November 20, 2013, 03:12:10 PM
Set A/B

1. False Awakening
2. Enemy Inside
3. Peruvian Skies
4. As I Am
5. Lifting Shadows Of A Dream
6. Lie
7. Space Dye Vest
8. Looking Glass/ Surrender To Reason
9. Enigma Machine
10. The Count/ Nightmare To Remember

11. Overture 1928
12. Strange Deja Vu
13. Beyond This Life/ Dance Of Eternity
14. This Is The Life
15. In The Presence Of Enemies Pt. 1/Pt. 2
16. The Great Debate/ Glass Prison
17. Illumination Theory
Easter Egg (encore intro)
18. A Change Of Seasons

I tried to get alot of albums included but with the Awake and Scenes anniversary and knowing they are going to play alot of the new album it was hard to do so. I would assume they are doing two legs so I give it another try latter.
 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: KevShmev on November 21, 2013, 12:06:45 AM
The more I think about it, the more I think there is a good chance that The Count of Tuscany is a mainstay on this tour, possibly as the encore.  I could be way off, but it's just a hunch.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on November 21, 2013, 04:19:48 AM
Possibly not on the European Leg though, seeing as it was played at every show on the 2011 summer tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on November 24, 2013, 10:32:05 AM
Leg 2

1. False Awakening
2. Enemy Inside
3. Behind the Veil
4. New Millennium
5. A Mind Beside Itself
6. Looking Glass/ Bigger Picture
7. The Count/ Nightmare To Remember

8. Overture 1928
9. Strange Deja Vu
10. Lost Not Forgotten
11. In The Presence Of Enemies
12. Illumination Theory
Easter Egg (encore intro)
13. Octavarium

I switched Seasons with Octavarium because I am predicting that there will be a orchestra show on leg 2.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on November 25, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
I am on a selist addiction. Lol

DVD Show

1. Overture 1928
2. Strange Deja Vu
3. The Looking Glass
4. Enemy Inside
5. This is the Life
6. Glass Prison
7. Peruvian Skies
8. Enigma Machine
9. A Nightmare To Remember

Orchestra Set

10. False Awakening
11. Ministry of Lost Souls
12. Space Dye Vest
13. Metropolis
14. Vacent
15. Stream Of Consciousness
16. Illumination Theory
Easter Egg (encore intro)
17. Octavarium

P.S. Set 1 is more metal because of the Orchestra in set 2.
P.P.S. I know this is kind of off topic but I was watching Score yesterday and LaBrie was great especially in the last 5 min. of Octavarium and six degrees.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: dodido253 on December 09, 2013, 02:21:22 PM
Strong feeling that those songs make their appearance this tour :
ITNOG
Take The Time
Finally Free
Voices
Panic Attack
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: krands85 on December 09, 2013, 02:43:41 PM
Strong feeling that those songs make their appearance this tour :
ITNOG
Take The Time
Finally Free
Voices
Panic Attack
I'd be a little bit bummed if they played Take the Time and Voices even though I love both songs, since they played them both the first (of the two) times I've seen them before. I wouldn't mind, but I'm still desperate to see them play at least one of my top 3 songs (LTL, Metropolis, 8VM). Unfortunately I don't think there's much hope for LTL or Metropolis, seems likely that it will be TTT from I&W if they only play one track from it. Though I also thought they were going to play the whole of the new album each night, but that seems unlikely from what MM said in a recent interview.

The other three would be great though, especially ITNOG. :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 09, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
Please no Panic Attack
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on December 09, 2013, 11:27:32 PM
Please no Panic Attack
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on December 10, 2013, 07:27:03 AM
Please no Panic Attack
^^^This times 100!  I don't need to hear this song live anymore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cramx3 on December 10, 2013, 07:27:28 AM
Strong feeling that those songs make their appearance this tour :
ITNOG
Take The Time
Finally Free
Voices
Panic Attack
I'd be a little bit bummed if they played Take the Time and Voices even though I love both songs, since they played them both the first (of the two) times I've seen them before. I wouldn't mind, but I'm still desperate to see them play at least one of my top 3 songs (LTL, Metropolis, 8VM). Unfortunately I don't think there's much hope for LTL or Metropolis, seems likely that it will be TTT from I&W if they only play one track from it. Though I also thought they were going to play the whole of the new album each night, but that seems unlikely from what MM said in a recent interview.

The other three would be great though, especially ITNOG. :metal

Yea they played TTT and Voices often on the last few MP tours so I would hope they skip those. If they do TTT hopefully its the full version.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cfmoran13 on December 10, 2013, 07:29:43 AM
Does anyone else thing that we might not see "A Change Of Seasons" played live in its entirety again considering how closely it is associated with MP?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 10, 2013, 08:20:23 AM
Does anyone else thing that we might not see "A Change Of Seasons" played live in its entirety again considering how closely it is associated with MP?

I don't think they'll play it, but that's just because it's a really long song, not anything to do with MP. They've played parts of the 12SS, so I don't think it would be an issue. The only DT song that I see being too personal to play is TBOT, and I wouldn't have considered that a likely setlist choice regardless of that anyway.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: SeRoX on December 10, 2013, 07:03:47 PM
Well, I don't say no to see ACOS. I think it's one of DT's signature epic, MP may write it but it's simply DT's song and while TBOT is kind of his last piece with DT and never been played live I hope they keep it that way. 

Other than that, I believe we can see Finally Free, The Glass Prison, Voices, The Mirror/Lie, Trial Of Tears. And I hope they'll play Take Away My Pain, Disappear and In Presence Of Enemies Pt2.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Xersiz on December 14, 2013, 06:29:02 AM
All right my turn;

Set 1: (1h30m)

False Awakening Suite (2:42) (Intro)
The Enemy Inside (6:17)
The Mirror/Lie(13:20)
Behind The Veil(6:53)
Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:51)
Disappear (6:46)
Wither (5:26)
Looking Glass (4:53)
The Bigger Picture (7:41)
Panic Attack (8:13)
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live (14:02)


Set 2: (1h40m)

In The Presence of Enemies Part I (9:00)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
The Root Of All Evil (8:26)
Repentance (10:44)
Only A Matter Of Time (6:36)
Peruvian Skies (6:43)
Voices (9:54)
One Last Time/The Spirit Carries On (10:16)
Surrender To Reason (6:35)
Along For The Ride (4:45)
Illumination Theory (22:18)

Encore:

The Count of Tuscany (19:16)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 14, 2013, 08:17:34 AM
All right my turn;

Set 1: (1h30m)

False Awakening Suite (2:42) (Intro)
The Enemy Inside (6:17)
The Mirror/Lie(13:20)
Behind The Veil(6:53)
Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:51)
Disappear (6:46)
Wither (5:26)
Looking Glass (4:53)
The Bigger Picture (7:41)
Panic Attack (8:13)
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live (14:02)


Set 2:

The Glass Prison (13:53)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
The Root Of All Evil (8:26)
Repentance (10:44)
Only A Matter Of Time (6:36)
Peruvian Skies (6:43)
Voices (9:54)
One Last Time/The Spirit Carries On (10:16)
Surrender To Reason (6:35)
Along For The Ride (4:45)
Illumination Theory (22:18)

Encore:

The Count of Tuscany (19:16)


Fixed for me :)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2013, 08:28:50 AM
All right my turn;

Set 1: (1h30m)

False Awakening Suite (2:42) (Intro)
The Enemy Inside (6:17)
The Mirror/Lie(13:20)
Behind The Veil(6:53)
Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:51)
Disappear (6:46)
Wither (5:26)
Looking Glass (4:53)
The Bigger Picture (7:41)
Panic Attack (8:13)
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live (14:02)


Set 2: (1h40m)

In The Presence of Enemies Part I (9:00)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
The Root Of All Evil (8:26)
Repentance (10:44)
Only A Matter Of Time (6:36)
Peruvian Skies (6:43)
Voices (9:54)
One Last Time/The Spirit Carries On (10:16)
Surrender To Reason (6:35)
Along For The Ride (4:45)
In The Presence of Enemies, pt. 2 (16:38)

Encore:

The Count of Tuscany (19:16)

FTFM
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 14, 2013, 08:33:24 AM
If I were to take that... Panic Attack would need to be replaced with something else. . .  Forsaken would work for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Xersiz on December 14, 2013, 09:16:09 AM
All right my turn;

Set 1: (1h30m)

False Awakening Suite (2:42) (Intro)
The Enemy Inside (6:17)
The Mirror/Lie(13:20)
Behind The Veil(6:53)
Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:51)
Disappear (6:46)
Wither (5:26)
Looking Glass (4:53)
The Bigger Picture (7:41)
Panic Attack (8:13)
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live (14:02)


Set 2: (1h40m)

In The Presence of Enemies Part I (9:00)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
The Root Of All Evil (8:26)
Repentance (10:44)
Only A Matter Of Time (6:36)
Peruvian Skies (6:43)
Voices (9:54)
One Last Time/The Spirit Carries On (10:16)
Surrender To Reason (6:35)
Along For The Ride (4:45)
In The Presence of Enemies, pt. 2 (16:38)

Encore:

The Count of Tuscany (19:16)

FTFM

Yeah,I was thinking putting ITPOE 2 to there,but I guess they have to play IT as it is the main epic but yeah ITPOE rocks  :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on December 14, 2013, 10:06:16 AM
All right my turn;

Set 1: (1h30m)

False Awakening Suite (2:42) (Intro)
The Enemy Inside (6:17)
The Mirror/Lie(13:20)
Behind The Veil(6:53)
Bridges In The Sky (11:01)
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy (7:51)
Disappear (6:46)
Wither (5:26)
Vacant/Stream of Consciousness (14 minutes)
Looking Glass (4:53)
The Bigger Picture (7:41)
Panic Attack (8:13)
Wait For Sleep/Learning To Live (14:02)


Set 2: (1h40m)

The Miracle and the Sleeper (9 minutes)
In The Presence of Enemies Part I (9:00)
This Dying Soul (11:28)
Breaking All Illusions (12:25)
The Root Of All Evil (8:26)
Repentance (10:44)
Only A Matter Of Time (6:36)
The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun (8 minutes)
Peruvian Skies (6:43)
These Walls (6:59)
Voices (9:54)
The Dance of Eternity/One Last Time/The Spirit Carries On (17 minutes)
Surrender To Reason (6:35)
Along For The Ride (4:45)
Illumination Theory (22:18)

Encore:

The Count of Tuscany (19:16)
Octavarium (24:00)

Fixed that for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Evermind on December 14, 2013, 11:35:18 AM
Yeah,I was thinking putting ITPOE 2 to there,but I guess they have to play IT as it is the main epic but yeah ITPOE rocks  :metal :metal :metal

Well, I know they've got to play IT, but since I don't really like it and it's kind of a wishlist, I went with ITPOE. :)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on December 14, 2013, 11:40:28 AM
I might like ITPOE more than Illumination Theory, but I think IT would still be more entertaining live
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 14, 2013, 11:47:59 AM
I'd take ITPOE any day.

"Welcome tired pilgrim.." would give me epic goosebumps.

Yes. Epic goosebumps.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on December 14, 2013, 11:54:13 AM
Right, but just the plain idea of James hitting an F5 beats it JUST for a live setting. I could NOT pass up IT in the live setting even though I don't like it as much compositionally.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on December 15, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
Right, but just the plain idea of James hitting an F5 beats it JUST for a live setting. I could NOT pass up IT in the live setting even though I don't like it as much compositionally.
I'd much prefer LTL or 8VM satisfying this need.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on December 15, 2013, 06:58:26 PM
Right, but just the plain idea of James hitting an F5 beats it JUST for a live setting. I could NOT pass up IT in the live setting even though I don't like it as much compositionally.
I'd much prefer LTL or 8VM satisfying this need.

LTL maybe, but for a different thing because that's just a held out note on "whooaaa". 8vm, seeing a scream is 2nd most entertaining to a note for me. I loved the screams at the end of BMUBMD or in 6:00, but they're still inferior to a specific melody. In IT it's a full phrase with many notes, one of which is an F5- something that hasn't been done as a constant on a tour since I&W. Innocence Faded, however, would also satisfy this thirst.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 18, 2013, 02:23:02 AM
Some of these setlists contain more than one instrumental and there is no way that is happening.  I think Enigma Machine is likely to be played, nixing all the other instrumentals for this tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on December 18, 2013, 03:09:53 AM
The tour schedule is pretty merciless considering this tour is "an evening with DT", so I wouldn't be surprised if they included more than one instrumental for the sake of James' voice.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on December 18, 2013, 08:08:56 AM
Look at the Budokan setlist
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on December 18, 2013, 03:01:53 PM
So the press release said they'd be play some songs that have never been played live before. That list, oddly enough, is pretty short:
Don't Look Past Me
Space-Dye Vest
The Best Of Times
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

Only five DT songs from studio sessions have never been played live before in some way shape or form by the band. Which songs could they possibly be referring to? I'm hoping for at LEAST SDV and TSF, but DLPM would be awesome too (though I'm not sure, despite how good JLB's been lately, if it can be sung properly).

I highly doubt "Raw Dog" would be performed, nor "The Best Of Times", so it really only leaves 3 songs.

Now there are a number of songs that haven't been played more than a half-dozen times, many of which are FII B-Sides, as well as "Disappear", but I would hope that they don't include any of those songs as part of their songs "never played live before" as they clearly have been performed live.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on December 18, 2013, 04:03:47 PM
That's an interesting post, M.

I'd be shocked if SDV is not part of this setlist.

I'm with you on Raw Dog, but I'm holding out hope that TBOT will be played.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on December 18, 2013, 05:22:44 PM
Yeah, SDV makes perfect sense considering the 'not played live' criterion and the Awake anniversary.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on December 18, 2013, 08:59:31 PM
Overture of Six Degrees has never been played live by DT has it? Only by a track or the orchestra, right? How come that's never included on that tiny list of songs not played live?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on December 18, 2013, 10:28:09 PM
Overture of Six Degrees has never been played live by DT has it? Only by a track or the orchestra, right? How come that's never included on that tiny list of songs not played live?

I could go the "Oh, well SDOIT is technically ONE SONG, so it doesn't really count if they haven't played a PART of it, especially when they've done the rest of it live" route...or I could go and say that it was never really MEANT to be played live, same with what might be the case for "False Awakening Suite" (which was designed as being a concert intro-tape in mind anyway).

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 19, 2013, 12:33:04 AM
So the press release said they'd be play some songs that have never been played live before. That list, oddly enough, is pretty short:
Don't Look Past Me
Space-Dye Vest
The Best Of Times
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

Only five DT songs from studio sessions have never been played live before in some way shape or form by the band. Which songs could they possibly be referring to? I'm hoping for at LEAST SDV and TSF, but DLPM would be awesome too (though I'm not sure, despite how good JLB's been lately, if it can be sung properly).

I honestly wouldn't want to hear ANY of those songs live, especially the most likely choice(s).  :mehlin
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 19, 2013, 02:52:09 AM
Oh, Blob, why do you have to ruin Christmas.   :laugh: Any of those songs are a cherished gift from the band. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on December 19, 2013, 02:59:54 AM
Oh, Blob, why do you have to ruin Christmas.   :laugh: Any of those songs are a cherished gift from the band. 

This is the first time I've ever heard Raw Dog referred to as a cherished gift. :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 19, 2013, 03:07:00 AM
Look at the Budokan setlist

That night's setlist was designed specifically for the DVD.  If you look at the tourography you will see that Instrumedley was brought back on that night for posterity, having been shelved for almost a year beforehand.  Again, I do not foresee more than one instrumental on this tour.  Raw Dog would be an odd choice, but I'd love to see it played anyway.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 19, 2013, 03:31:27 AM
Oh, Blob, why do you have to ruin Christmas.   :laugh: Any of those songs are a cherished gift from the band. 

This is the first time I've ever heard Raw Dog referred to as a cherished gift. :P

Well, that's because I'm hoping to see every DT song live at least once.  I have 8 to go, plus the new album.  Anything rare or unusual I see as a gift.  And now the impossible Space Dye Vest may happen?  YESSS!!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mikemangioy on December 19, 2013, 06:08:15 AM
when they talk about enigma machine, they ignore raw dog completely, saying that EM is the first instrumental in a decade, which is clearly not.
I think SDV will be played. TBOT is too Portnoy-ish, TSF is a complete mash-up of the 12SS it wouldn't make sense as one and I honestly never heard DLPM  :-\, I'll give it a shot
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on December 19, 2013, 06:24:57 AM
Definitely listen to Don't Look Past Me! It's a great tune.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on December 19, 2013, 06:31:22 AM
Definitely listen to Don't Look Past Me! It's a great tune.

One of my favorites of the lesser known songs.  I've been pining for that song to be played for years now!   I would love that and SDV.  With the Awake anniversary, SDV makes the most sense. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: bosk1 on December 19, 2013, 08:23:26 AM
So the press release said they'd be play some songs that have never been played live before. That list, oddly enough, is pretty short:
Don't Look Past Me
Space-Dye Vest
The Best Of Times
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

I've been saying for quite awhile that I would love it if they did a sort of "mini 12SS" with The Glass Prison -> The Shattered Fortress.  The "evening with" format would be the perfect time for it, as it affords enough time to do it, and something like that, while long, isn't nearly as long as trying to actualy do the entire 12SS (which they wouldn't do anyway, even if they had the time).  I actually think there is a fairly high likelihood that something along these lines will happen.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Blazinarps on December 19, 2013, 09:04:40 AM
So the press release said they'd be play some songs that have never been played live before. That list, oddly enough, is pretty short:
Don't Look Past Me
Space-Dye Vest
The Best Of Times
The Shattered Fortress
Raw Dog

Only five DT songs from studio sessions have never been played live before in some way shape or form by the band. Which songs could they possibly be referring to? I'm hoping for at LEAST SDV and TSF, but DLPM would be awesome too (though I'm not sure, despite how good JLB's been lately, if it can be sung properly).



I highly doubt "Raw Dog" would be performed, nor "The Best Of Times", so it really only leaves 3 songs.

Now there are a number of songs that haven't been played more than a half-dozen times, many of which are FII B-Sides, as well as "Disappear", but I would hope that they don't include any of those songs as part of their songs "never played live before" as they clearly have been performed live.

-Marc.

Not true.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
Surrender to Reason
Behind the Veil
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on December 19, 2013, 09:50:30 AM
JP: "We’ll be premiering some songs we’ve never played live before, as well as featured tracks from our latest self-titled release..."
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on December 19, 2013, 10:01:02 AM
JP: "We’ll be premiering some songs we’ve never played live before, as well as featured tracks from our latest self-titled release..."

When he said "premiering songs we've never played before", I thought it was pretty obvious he was referring to past songs and not songs on the current release. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on December 19, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
JP: "We’ll be premiering some songs we’ve never played live before, as well as featured tracks from our latest self-titled release..."
When he said "premiering songs we've never played before", I thought it was pretty obvious he was referring to past songs and not songs on the current release.
Yeah, I thought so too. I just wanted to point out in case someone didn't get it :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on December 19, 2013, 12:07:42 PM
JP: "We’ll be premiering some songs we’ve never played live before, as well as featured tracks from our latest self-titled release..."
When he said "premiering songs we've never played before", I thought it was pretty obvious he was referring to past songs and not songs on the current release.
Yeah, I thought so too. I just wanted to point out in case someone didn't get it :P

I figured we were all good at reading comprehension so I just assumed we all thought that lol guess not... but yeah, he meant BESIDES the new songs.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on December 23, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
First time posting here. Flying over to California for the Fox Performing Arts show from Florida. I've been playing around with set lists and I've come up with 2 setlists that i think are plausible. They're both just shy of 3 hours, with it split into 2 sections. Songs with a / in between them mean they're for different sets. Songs with no slash are the same between both sets.

Set A:
False Awakening Suite intro tape (hopefully with animation)
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
--LaBrie says hi--
Hollow Years/Blind Faith
Under A Glass Moon/Take The Time
The Bigger Picture
--LaBrie Mentions Awake/SFAM Anniversary--
Voices/The Dance of Eternity+One Last Time
Scarred/The Spirit Carries On
Space Dye Vest/Finally Free

intermission

Set B
The Glass Prison/Bridges in the Sky
Panic Attack
Enigma Machine
Behind the Veil
LaBrie mentions SFAM/Awake Anniversary
Overture 1928+Strange Deja Vu/Erotomania
The Dance of Eternity/Space Dye Vest
Surrender to Reason
On the Backs of Angels
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory
JP/JR Easter Egg

Encore:
Breaking All Illusions/Trial of Tears
or
The Count of Tuscany


I think they'll play at least 2-3 songs from either Awake or SFAM a night, then 3-4 songs for the other to honor both anniversaries. Both sets have all of DT12. Each set features 9 albums with BAI/ToT encore, 10 with TCOT encore. I left out the obvious I&W choices for the encore because i think for at least the first European/NA legs, they'll be leaving them out. Both sets are 21 songs long + the easter egg. I think they'll definitely still be playing the hell out of OTBOA just because it was nominated for a Grammy.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on December 23, 2013, 06:43:32 PM
That's one of the most plausible setlists I've seen. Would be happy with either of those.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on December 23, 2013, 07:27:14 PM
That's one of the most plausible setlists I've seen. Would be happy with either of those.

I was going for more plausible than wishful thinking. I tried to be as realistic as possible. Like I wouldn't want Hollow Years to be played necessarily since i don't love the song, but they've played it a lot and haven't in at least 4 years so it has a much bigger chance of coming back than let's say These Walls or This is the Life, the songs that took that spot of the set last tour cycle.

Having The Glass Prison open the second set might be a little wishful thinking, but I think that song is shamefully underplayed and I think most fans would appreciate it coming back.

I fully expect the "song(s) previously never played before" to be Space Dye Vest and maybe TSF on a couple occasions. I know they've been pretty adamant about not playing SDV with a full band with out Moore, but it's the 20th anniversary of the album and they may play it because of it. Or they may play it just James and Jordan like they did earlier this year. TBOT is very personal to Portnoy and i think i read somewhere he asked them not to play it without him. TSF i would think is fair game and could be played on a leg.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on December 24, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
I know they've been pretty adamant about not playing SDV with a full band with out Moore...

Pretty sure 'the band' has not said anything of the sort. Only one person has been adamant about playing (or not playing) that song, and he is not in the band any more.

I could also do without any 12SS songs being performed for a while.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: dtrox08 on December 25, 2013, 11:33:28 AM
In the last week Rudess has posted two videos of himself on Youtube practicing short bits of The Looking Glass and Illumination Theory for the tour so we are 100% certain those will be played.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: KevShmev on December 25, 2013, 11:37:23 AM
Keep in mind when JP says, "Songs we've never played before," he could be referring to songs the current lineup has never played.

Or he could be pulling an Alex Lifeson and be referring to songs they haven't played in a long time. :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on December 25, 2013, 11:57:28 AM
For those that think TBOT is off limits and I'm not one of them, what about adding TBOT outro to Take Away My Pain?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on December 25, 2013, 12:05:41 PM
For those that think TBOT is off limits and I'm not one of them, what about adding TBOT outro to Take  Away My Pain   The Time?


 :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on December 26, 2013, 02:47:22 AM
For those that think TBOT is off limits and I'm not one of them, what about adding TBOT outro to Take Away My Pain?

Thematically, that's a great idea:  Bookend Take Away My Pain with the TBOT intro and outro instrumental sections.  When TBOT switches to major key, I can see that really working as a segway for Take Away My Pain.  Although, it might be seen as an insensitive gesture -- taking the song about one father's death and inserting another.

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on January 02, 2014, 05:54:06 PM
So I constructed a list of DT songs they haven't yet played live with Mike Mangini, and looking at it, it's impressive how many songs they actually DID play on the last tour- 36 songs, counting "Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy" as one, but counting "War Inside My Head" and "The Test That Stumped Them All" as two.

Anyways, here's the list...

Dream Theater Songs
Not Yet Played Live w/Mike Mangini

WDADU
Status Seeker
The Killing Hand
Light Fuse And Get Away
Afterlife
The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun
Only A Matter Of Time

IAW
Take The Time

Awake
Innocence Faded
Erotomania
Voices
The Mirror
Lie
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest*

FII
New Millennium
You Not Me
Hollow Years
Burning My Soul
Hell's Kitchen
Lines In The Sand
Take Away My Pain
Just Let Me Breathe
Anna Lee
Trial Of Tears

SFAM
Scene One: Regression
Scene Two: I. Overture 1928/II. Strange Deja Vu
Scene Four: Beyond This Life
Scene Five: Through Her Eyes
Scene Six: Home
Scene Seven: I. The Dance Of Eternity/II. One Last Time
Scene Nine: Finally Free

SDOIT
The Glass Prison
Blind Faith
Misunderstood
Disappear
About To Crash
Goodnight Kiss
Solitary Shell
About To Crash (Reprise)
Losing Time/Grand Finale

TOT
This Dying Soul
Honor Thy Father
Vacant
Stream Of Consciousness
In The Name Of God

8VM
The Answer Lies Within
I Walk Beside You
Panic Attack
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium

SC
In The Presence Of Enemies
Constant Motion
Repentance
Prophets Of War
The Ministry Of Lost Souls

BC&SL
A Nightmare To Remember
A Rite Of Passage
Wither
The Shattered Fortress*
The Best Of Times*

Non-Album Tracks:
Don't Look Past Me*
Eve
Raise The Knife
Where Are You Now?
The Way It Used To Be
Cover My Eyes
Speak To Me
Raw Dog

There's about 70 songs they could pull from, and in fact, if they do a full 2.5-3 hour show, that would be around 160-180 minutes of music, enough time to cover about 14-18 songs/tracks.

Now going under the assumption that they will play a good chunk of NEW music (say, 6-7 songs each night), that would take up about a third of the show, or about an hour. This leaves 8-12 songs, or about 100-120 minutes of music.

They very well could pick any of the above songs and not repeat any songs they played on the last tour and have a completely unique and different pool of songs to pick from for this coming tour. I would hope they see how much music they can choose from and think of this when formulating their set lists. They could easily fill in 2 hours of music from any of the over 60 songs above and not play the same 20-somg songs they did last tour. In fact, if I could pick 12-15 songs above that would be perfect for the coming tour, I'd choose:

Afterlife
Only A Matter Of Time
Take THe Time
Erotomania
Voices
The Mirror
Scarred
Space-Dye Vest
New Millennium
Lines In The Sand
Take Away My Pain ('96 version)
Beyond This Life
Home
The Dance Of Eternity/One Last Time
Misunderstood
Blind Faith
Honor Thy Father
Vacant/Stream Of Consciousness
Panic Attack
Sacrificed Sons
Prophets Of War
The Ministry Of Lost Souls
A Nightmare To Remember
The Shattered Fortress


I honestly doubt they'd pick any of the 18+ minute epics (so that rules out ACOS, 8VM, and ITPOE), mostly because they'd likely play "Illumination Theory" somewhere in the set (either at the end of the second half, or in the encore).

I mean, they could pick two or three songs from any of the albums in the above list, rotate some in and out like they did last tour, and play ALL NEW SONGS with this line-up that were not performed last tour.

Unfortunately, we'll still likely get PMU or Metropolis as they're their more well-known and fan-favorite pieces. I guess I am okay with that, but we have ENOUGH renditions of those tunes from many tours, give other songs a chance, old AND new, to shine. Besides, the old ones are pre-MP vocals, and JLB's voice has been SOOO good lately that he has done better on the pre-SFAM stuff, so bring on the earlier tunes!!!

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 03, 2014, 09:34:13 PM
Marc, very well thought out analysis, although you may have overlooked ADTOE in your breakdown, which we should be sure to hear a few tracks make a return in the setlist.  I agree that there will be a number of catalog songs from the last tour making a reappearance:  for example, PMU, Metropolis, Caught in a Web, etc.  It would be great if all the non-DT 12 tracks are songs not previously played on the last tour, but I don't foresee that happening.     
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on January 03, 2014, 10:20:35 PM
Marc, very well thought out analysis, although you may have overlooked ADTOE in your breakdown, which we should be sure to hear a few tracks make a return in the setlist.  I agree that there will be a number of catalog songs from the last tour making a reappearance:  for example, PMU, Metropolis, Caught in a Web, etc.  It would be great if all the non-DT 12 tracks are songs not previously played on the last tour, but I don't foresee that happening.   

I did disregard the ADTOE tracks in my list above because I was listing songs that the band has not yet played live with the current line-up, and on the last tour, they played every song from the then-new album, ADTOE, so none of those tracks were listed.

As for any of them being played on the upcoming tour, I'd hope for no more than 2, to be honest. The band has SO MUCH material to play that playing any more than 2 of the songs from the previous album would be an injustice to the huge back-catalog they have. Maybe OTBOA and one other like TITL or BMUBMD. Other than that, leave the epics alone and give that time to other songs in the back-catalog.

As for songs returning from the previous tour, I could see them doing that, especially the more popular tracks, but I hope that no more than 4 or 5 songs from the last tour return for this year's tour. I'd really like to hear this line-up play more of the old stuff, and maybe some lesser played recent tunes like POW or NE or HTF.

I guess we will find out in less than 2 weeks what their pool of songs will be for this tour, at least on the first leg of the tour.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 03, 2014, 11:12:36 PM
Marc, very well thought out analysis, although you may have overlooked ADTOE in your breakdown, which we should be sure to hear a few tracks make a return in the setlist.  I agree that there will be a number of catalog songs from the last tour making a reappearance:  for example, PMU, Metropolis, Caught in a Web, etc.  It would be great if all the non-DT 12 tracks are songs not previously played on the last tour, but I don't foresee that happening.   
As for any of them being played on the upcoming tour, I'd hope for no more than 2, to be honest. The band has SO MUCH material to play that playing any more than 2 of the songs from the previous album would be an injustice to the huge back-catalog they have. Maybe OTBOA and one other like TITL or BMUBMD. Other than that, leave the epics alone and give that time to other songs in the back-catalog.

Couldn't agree more.

Looking forward to this first batch of surprises. 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on January 04, 2014, 10:50:56 AM
Oh snap, they're starting in like 2 weeks aren't they?

I'm always very excited to see setlists. :caffeine:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 04, 2014, 10:58:06 AM
Oh snap, they're starting in like 2 weeks aren't they?
On the 15th - less than 2 weeks to go!
I'd really like to hear this line-up play more of the old stuff, and maybe some lesser played recent tunes like POW or NE or HTF.
Please no... :puke:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 04, 2014, 11:00:59 AM
I can't wait for the ensuing bootlegs!! 

I would really love to see ACOS brought back again. I know it's a big chunk of the setlist but that's just an amazing song to see performed live.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: krands85 on January 04, 2014, 11:10:08 AM
Didn't realise the tour started so soon, seems to have snuck up on me - less than 6 weeks until the Manchester gig  :omg:

Very interested to see the setlists, not only from the first night, but from the first few - to see how much they're mixing things up. Really hope they play at least one of my top 4 tracks (since they didn't the first 2 times I saw them), so fingers crossed. Though I think any of my top 3 are unlikely - In the Name of God is probably my best chance from my top 4.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 04, 2014, 11:10:34 AM
I would really love to see ACOS brought back again. I know it's a big chunk of the setlist but that's just an amazing song to see performed live.
Yeah, it'd be awesome if they took advantage of the "evening with" format by bringing it back :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 04, 2014, 09:53:39 PM
I would really love to see ACOS brought back again. I know it's a big chunk of the setlist but that's just an amazing song to see performed live.
Yeah, it'd be awesome if they took advantage of the "evening with" format by bringing it back :metal

If I remember correctly, it hasn't been played in full since Italy 2004.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 04, 2014, 11:08:03 PM
If I remember correctly, it hasn't been played in full since Italy 2004.
Holy shit 10 years is WAY too long. It's been 7-8 years since Octavarium too and they're a minute apart in length (studio versions at least), so if they switched those two out for the encore i think everyone would be pleased.

With that in mind, I've made some changes to my predicted setlist:

Set A:
False Awakening Suite intro tape (hopefully with animation)
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
--LaBrie says hi--
Blind Faith/Hollow Years
Under A Glass Moon/Take The Time
The Bigger Picture
--LaBrie Mentions Awake/SFAM Anniversary--
Voices/The Dance of Eternity+One Last Time
Scarred/The Spirit Carries On
Space Dye Vest/Finally Free

intermission

Set B
Bridges in the Sky/The Glass Prison (after intermission, house lights dim and static starts back up from Finally Free)
Constant Motion
Enigma Machine
Behind the Veil
LaBrie mentions SFAM/Awake Anniversary
Overture 1928+Strange Deja Vu/Erotomania
The Dance of Eternity/Space Dye Vest
Surrender to Reason
On the Backs of Angels
Along for the Ride
Illumination Theory
JP/JR Easter Egg

Encore:
A Change of Seasons/Octavarium
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 05, 2014, 01:49:58 AM
If I remember correctly, it hasn't been played in full since Italy 2004.
Holy shit 10 years is WAY too long. It's been 7-8 years since Octavarium too and they're a minute apart in length (studio versions at least), so if they switched those two out for the encore i think everyone would be pleased.
I'd be ok with that if they played ACOS in Helsinki ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Mladen on January 05, 2014, 03:45:59 AM
I've got an idea. I read or heard in an interview that they will include a song from each album, so if that is the case, which ones would be picked? I picked the songs, but it's still hard to figure out the order and the way they would be combined with the new stuff, so I'll just list the songs. I mostly went with the rather short ones, being that there are eleven albums to choose from:

Only a matter of time
Take the time
Space-dye vest
Trial of tears
Home
Blind faith
As I am
I walk beside you
Constant motion
Wither
On the backs of angels
Build me up, break me down
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MirzekDT on January 05, 2014, 04:06:58 AM
I don't have a full setlist with order prediction but based on when were songs last played and some other facts I predict some of these songs will definitely show up

WDADU: The Killing Hand (last played in 2004 (WDADRU) and regulary last played in 2002)
IAW: Take The Time (the only song that wasn't played on ADTOE tour)
Awake: Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (last played in 2002), The Mirror / Lie (Was played on BC&SL tour but I guess it might return cause it wasn't on any live release yet)
FII: Trial Of Tears (last played in 2004), Take Away My Pain (last played in 1998)
SFAM: Finally Free (last played in 2005)
SDOIT: The Glass Prison (last played in 2006)
TOT: This Dying Soul (last played in 2006), Stream Of Consciousness (last played in 2004, probably not because Engima Machine will be probably played and that would mean two instrumentals in the set and one pretty long one but who knows maybe)
8VM: I Walk Beside You (last played in 2008)
SC: The Ministry Of Lost Souls (last played in 2008)
BC&SL: Wither (just a guess)
ADTOE: On The Backs Of Angels (just a guess), Lost Not Forgotten (they started to play it on later legs so maybe they will keep playing it but still just a guess, any song from ADTOE kept in setlist wouldn't surprise me maybe except BMUBMD and FFH)

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 05, 2014, 04:47:08 AM
My guesses are pretty similar:

Afterlife
Take the Time
Space-Dye Vest
Trial of Tears
Finally Free
The Glass Prison
Stream of Consciousness
I Walk Beside You, perhaps?
In the Presence of Enemies Pt. 1
The Shattered Fortress (JP said "songs we've never played before" and this is probably the best guess besides SDV)
On the Backs of Angels
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 05, 2014, 08:23:10 AM
I fully believe they're going to play at least one of the mini epics off ADToE and OTBOA since that was nominated for a Grammy, most likely 2 or more I&W songs, and at least 7 off DT12. If they wanted to they could play 1 from the remaining 9 and have 20 songs but i'd rather them just pick their best setlist songs instead of just picking ones off each album for the sake of including every album.

My wishlist that won't happen, however, is:
The Glass Prison
Caught in a Web
Blind Faith
Bridges in the Sky
Dance of Eternity
A Change of Seasons
The Count of Tuscany
 
FAS
TEI
EM
TBP
BtV
STR
IT

encore: Octavarium

That would actually fit in at almost 3 hours plus intermission. That's 15 songs and if they played that whole set I'd die.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 05, 2014, 08:25:40 AM
But if we're going for one song an album, I'd say:

The Killing Hand
Take the Time
Voices
Trial of Tears
Dance of Eternity (they have to know a lot of people want to see Mangini play this live)
Blind Faith
This Dying Soul
Panic Attack
Constant Motion
Count of Tuscany (encore)
OTBoA
BitS
DT12
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on January 05, 2014, 01:19:58 PM
Stream Of Consciousness (last played in 2004, probably not because Engima Machine will be probably played and that would mean two instrumentals in the set and one pretty long one but who knows maybe)

I'll count your doubt by saying the LAB setlist featured BOTH "Stream of Consciousness" AND "The Instrumedley", as well as an equally long jam in the middle of "Beyond This Life". That is nearly a half hour of instrumental music in the whole set of 3 hours. I think they could definitely play SOC AND EM in the same show, just in different sets and spread apart well. It would give James a good amount of time to catch his breath, so to speak.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 05, 2014, 03:08:06 PM
Stream Of Consciousness (last played in 2004, probably not because Engima Machine will be probably played and that would mean two instrumentals in the set and one pretty long one but who knows maybe)

I'll count your doubt by saying the LAB setlist featured BOTH "Stream of Consciousness" AND "The Instrumedley", as well as an equally long jam in the middle of "Beyond This Life". That is nearly a half hour of instrumental music in the whole set of 3 hours. I think they could definitely play SOC AND EM in the same show, just in different sets and spread apart well. It would give James a good amount of time to catch his breath, so to speak.

-Marc.


HELL YEA!


Or better yet, 86 Enigma Machine and throw in DOE :JayOctavarium:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: MirzekDT on January 05, 2014, 06:58:22 PM
Stream Of Consciousness (last played in 2004, probably not because Engima Machine will be probably played and that would mean two instrumentals in the set and one pretty long one but who knows maybe)

I'll count your doubt by saying the LAB setlist featured BOTH "Stream of Consciousness" AND "The Instrumedley", as well as an equally long jam in the middle of "Beyond This Life". That is nearly a half hour of instrumental music in the whole set of 3 hours. I think they could definitely play SOC AND EM in the same show, just in different sets and spread apart well. It would give James a good amount of time to catch his breath, so to speak.

-Marc.

You are right, I didn't realize that :) So we will see, Stream Of Consciousness live must be awesome even though it drags a bit in the middle on the album... I would love if they would play it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 05, 2014, 10:44:21 PM
Again, I will contend that these instrumental selections were not a part of the regular setlist for that leg and were only played at the LAB show for the sake of posterity and capturing the re-imagined songs these on DVD.  I do not expect more than one instrumental on this tour.  It would take away from the limelight (and importance) of the new martial:  Enigma Machine.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: genome on January 06, 2014, 06:01:56 PM
According to here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5862286/dream-theater-planting-seeds-for-album-no-13

Illumination Theory is the closer, although it's not a direct quote.

I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

I'm going to go for:

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
These Walls
Surrounded
Enigma Machine
(Rudess Solo)
Blind Faith
Endless Sacrifice
(Mangini Solo)
Caught in a Web
Space Dye Vest
Lie
Breaking All Illusions

-----Interval-----

Under A Glass Moon
The Dark Eternal Night
The Looking Glass
Through My Words/Fatal Tragedy
A Fortune in Lies
Along For The Ride
Take The Time
(Petrucci Solo)
The Spirit Carries On
Metropolis

Encore:
Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 06, 2014, 09:26:30 PM
A few of those songs you picked were played at most of the shows during the last tour, and likely won't make it back, except Metropolis and maybe UAGM or ES since they were only played in 2011.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: KevShmev on January 06, 2014, 10:16:43 PM


I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

 

 ???

Why would they play an older 20-minute plus song instead of the one on the album they are touring?  That is not something DT would do.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 06, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
It would be interesting if after the FAS intro tape (if it is indeed that way), they play The Glass Prison instead and immediately play The Enemy Inside one beat after the last chord. Would be kickass beyond belief.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 07, 2014, 01:40:15 AM
 ". . . and Petrucci says the group is planning "a cool event in Boston" that it plans to announce soon."

Hot DIGGITY!!!  I had a feeling the Boston show was gonna be special, and worth traveling across the country for.  The 'Opera' House is gorgeous, and an unusual venue for DT --- so I'm sure we can all deduce from that what the surprise event is.  See ya'll -- row D Center Orchestra!!! 
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: robbob on January 08, 2014, 12:56:39 AM
Obviously they'll open the concert with the False Awakening Suite and The Enemy Inside, but there's so many awesome possibilities on what they'll open the second set with.

I think these are definite possibilities:
The Glass Prison, Overture 1928/Strange Deja Vu, In the Presence of Enemies (part 1). All of these would really get the crowd hyped.

I hope they can find a way like others have said to include ACOS, as an encore would be great.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Curious Orange on January 08, 2014, 02:26:45 AM
I'm expecting every song from DT12, but I wouldn't object if a different song was "rested" on each night, much as Rush did on the CA tour.

Beyond that, I'd love to see any song I haven't seen live (The Killing Hand?), but I expect these to be pretty thin on the ground. After that, I'm hoping they surprise me with something I couldn't predict (ACOS?), and personnaly I'd love to hear Sacrificed Sons and Burning My Soul again.






Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BelichickFan on January 08, 2014, 04:16:05 PM
According to here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5862286/dream-theater-planting-seeds-for-album-no-13

Illumination Theory is the closer, although it's not a direct quote.

I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

Octavarium to end Set 1, Illumination Theory to end Set 2.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on January 08, 2014, 04:24:16 PM
We should be finding out one week from RIGHT NOW!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 08, 2014, 06:32:04 PM
According to here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5862286/dream-theater-planting-seeds-for-album-no-13

Illumination Theory is the closer, although it's not a direct quote.

I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

Octavarium to end Set 1, Illumination Theory to end Set 2.  Problem solved.
Or IT as the end of set two and ACOS/Octavarium as the encore, alternating on nights. They can still have a full 19-20 song set plus those as the encore (as i posted above). Having one of those and IT is nearly 50 minutes yes, but the concert will be 3 hours, so they have another 130 min to play their other music. Save 47 min for the rest of DT12 and you're left with 83 min to pick and choose from their catalog.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 08, 2014, 10:11:10 PM
According to here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5862286/dream-theater-planting-seeds-for-album-no-13

Illumination Theory is the closer, although it's not a direct quote.

I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

Octavarium to end Set 1, Illumination Theory to end Set 2.  Problem solved.

That's an abusive amount of music for the guys to handle in one tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on January 08, 2014, 11:37:12 PM
According to here: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5862286/dream-theater-planting-seeds-for-album-no-13

Illumination Theory is the closer, although it's not a direct quote.

I initially had a strong feeling they were going to play Octavarium. (Please  :-[ ) Although if IT is the closer, then maybe not, I don't see Octavarium as the kind of song that would be put in the middle somewhere.

Octavarium to end Set 1, Illumination Theory to end Set 2.  Problem solved.

That's an abusive amount of music for the guys to handle in one tour.

I mean, they COULD play two 18+ minute epics in one show, but history shows us that they typically do NOT do that. Sure there are longer encores they've played in the past in addition to playing the latest album epic - On the tours supporting Systematic Chaos, they closed their sets with "In The Presence Of Enemies", then played "Schmedley Wilcox", a 21 minute encore medley. And these were for shows that were only 2 hours long, and not "Evening With" shows (which have been 3+ hours long).

So, while not entirely IMPOSSIBLE, it's less likely since they rarely play two long epics in a single night.

HOWEVER, if they encore with their latest epic, as they did with "In The Name Of God" on the tour for Train Of Thought, they could do the same this time around and close their 2nd set (or their 1st set) with an epic. Honestly though, it would ONLY be either "Octavarium" or "A Change Of Seasons", IF they do do that.

However, considering the amount of material they've yet to play with their latest line-up and the appeal to play more of their back-catalog with this line-up, I doubt they'd take up 20+ minutes to play a SECOND epic when that time could be devoted to 2 or 3 other songs they've yet to play together on stage. Personally, I'd rather see 2 or 3 other songs played than either of those epics.

Now, if they did a shorter epic like "In The Name Of God", "The Ministry Of Lost Souls", or any of the longer tracks from ADTOE, then they'd still have plenty of time left in the set for more songs. Who knows...guess we'll see in a week or so!

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 09, 2014, 08:40:25 AM
I could see Illumination Theory and a shorter 'epic' like ITNOG or ToT being played consecutively at the end of the show.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 09, 2014, 10:40:32 AM
Personally I think the encore will be shared between BITS and BAI  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 09, 2014, 11:20:41 AM
Oh I hope not. I like both, but I can't see them working as encore tunes.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 09, 2014, 06:20:26 PM
If BITS/BAI were to be played, i think they'd start the second set and end the first set, respectively. BAI could potentially be an encore though.

I don't see IT being the encore because i see it more as a concert closer with something else as the encore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 09, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
If BITS/BAI were to be played, i think they'd start the second set and end the first set, respectively. BAI could potentially be an encore though.

I can see both working as encores.  BAI works almost like Learnign to Live, and that has been an encore tune since inception.  Bridges has that long build up, which may be better suited as an opener, but I can still see it as an encore like Metropolis.  Of course, there are other more majestic songs I prefer as an encore (In the Name of God, Shattered Fortress)

I don't see IT being the encore because i see it more as a concert closer with something else as the encore.

I concur.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: The Letter M on January 09, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
If BITS/BAI were to be played, i think they'd start the second set and end the first set, respectively. BAI could potentially be an encore though.

I don't see IT being the encore because i see it more as a concert closer with something else as the encore.

It's funny because I kind of see it working the other way around. It's been since the TOT tour that they've encored with a new song, being that album's closing epic "In The Name Of God", usually followed by "Metropolis Part 1". I think it's not impossible for them to encore with it, and it's got some long stretches of instrumental parts to give JLB some time to rest, especially after playing 2 long sets. His voice would be pretty beat by then, so a song with fewer lyrics would be good for him.

Also, a recent interview with the band recently said they would close with "Illumination Theory". Now, that COULD be taken as closing the whole show with it (being the encore), or possibly just closing the 2nd set, but I think they wouldn't have said it the way they did if they didn't mean the whole show, especially given how well-known and common having an encore is for them, let alone for MANY bands these days.

-Marc.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 09, 2014, 10:06:17 PM
I still think they are going to close the second set with IT, and then begin the encore with Easter Egg and then go into the encore song(s)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on January 10, 2014, 10:05:57 AM
I still think they are going to close the second set with IT, and then begin the encore with Easter Egg and then go into the encore song(s)
I can see that. It'd be a great transition into WFS/LTL.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 10, 2014, 10:25:22 AM
Or into Finally Free.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: John94 on January 10, 2014, 12:29:06 PM
I hope In the Name of God, Trial of Tears, and Misunderstood are brought in for this tour. Been a while for them.

I'd like to see TSCO be given a break, I think it's unlikely, but I would happily see another ballad take its place.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Onno on January 10, 2014, 01:00:25 PM
I hope they play only few songs from the ADTOE. I'm also hoping for ACOS or Octavarium and not too much stuff from DT12. Really hoping for some rarities.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 11, 2014, 03:25:53 AM
I have a strong feeling Trial Of Tears will make a return pretty soon.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 11, 2014, 04:24:50 AM
I have a strong feeling Trial Of Tears will make a return pretty soon.

There will be a Trail of Tears walking away from the show if they don't play it.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 11, 2014, 04:38:32 AM
:icy:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 11, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
I have a strong feeling Trial Of Tears will make a return pretty soon.
It's been way too long since that one was last played, James would like to perform it and its inclusion would make up for the lack of FII stuff on the previous tour - I can't see any reason for it not to be brought back :D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mikemangioy on January 11, 2014, 06:27:44 AM
what if they play The Mirror and once the Space Dye Vest part starts, they go ahead and play all of SDV??
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: wasteland on January 11, 2014, 06:38:21 AM
what if they play The Mirror and once the Space Dye Vest part starts, they go ahead and play all of SDV??

Medleys are evil incrarnate.  :millahhhh
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 11, 2014, 06:58:09 AM
But isn't that just a segue? Either way, I want to hear songs played in full.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on January 11, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
I have a strong feeling Trial Of Tears will make a return pretty soon.
That absolutely will not surprise me.

We'll know in a few more days.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 11, 2014, 11:32:30 PM
what if they play The Mirror and once the Space Dye Vest part starts, they go ahead and play all of SDV??

Medleys are evil incrarnate.  :millahhhh

Also different keys. The Mirror, including the SDV part, is B minor, whereas SDV is D minor.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: FrostbiteZ on January 12, 2014, 05:00:49 AM
what if they play The Mirror and once the Space Dye Vest part starts, they go ahead and play all of SDV??

Medleys are evil incrarnate.  :millahhhh
Does this mean that they won't play Illumination Theory ;)
Cause it sounds very much like a medley to me. I find that song to be very incohesive.
Don't get me wrong I like that song and I can't wait to see them play it live. Porto the 15th january here I come :metal :metal
I just don't understand JP saying he hates medleys and then he goes and write one :huh:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 12, 2014, 06:10:04 AM
So whats the opinion of the community regarding solos on this tour? I for one am hoping for a new drum solo, also last time they were in the UK we didnt get a keyboard solo. We had a bit of a JP one prior to TSCO too.

But I'm well up for the solos!  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 12, 2014, 06:35:07 AM
I hope there won't be any solo spots, because they would eat up time that could be used for actual songs.
what if they play The Mirror and once the Space Dye Vest part starts, they go ahead and play all of SDV??
Medleys are evil incrarnate.  :millahhhh
Also different keys. The Mirror, including the SDV part, is B minor, whereas SDV is D minor.
Transposing songs is perfectly acceptable if the singer can't pull off the high notes anymore, but SDV is the easiest DT song to sing already so it has to be played in the original key :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on January 12, 2014, 07:19:05 AM
I hope there won't be any solo spots, because they would eat up time that could be used for actual songs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 13, 2014, 09:08:46 AM
So... now that the details of the Boston show have been revealed, does anybody else think Space-Dye Vest is even more likely to be played on this tour? :caffeine: I also got a feeling we may get ITNOG...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 13, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
SDV would sound beautiful with an orchestra.  Co-composed by KM and JR?   Dreaming... I know. 

Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on January 13, 2014, 11:11:43 AM
I would LOVE this. Anyone else? Think it's possible?

False Awakening Suite (Intro Tape)
The Enemy Inside
A Rite of Passage
----
The Looking Glass
Blind Faith / This Dying Soul
The Killing Hand / Panic Attack
Enigma Machine
The Bigger Picture
----
Octavarium

-intermission-

Behind the Veil
---
On The Backs of Angels
Trial of Tears
--(Awake / SFAM Anniversary)--
Lifting Shadows off a Dream / Dance of Eternity
Scarred / One Last Time
Space Dye Vest / Finally Free
The Glass Prison
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory

Easter Egg
Take The Time
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: genome on January 13, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd4Y7l9CUAAe4Ez.jpg:large)

Can anyone figure out what he's playing?  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on January 13, 2014, 04:30:50 PM
I SPY A DT GOBO/GLOW PAINT/CUM STAIN UNDER BLACKLIGHT
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: genome on January 13, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
Good thing I bought a ticket in the upper tier so I can see it, sucks to be in the front row that's for sure.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on January 13, 2014, 05:17:10 PM
Can anyone figure out what he's playing?  ;D

Bass?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on January 13, 2014, 05:46:37 PM
I love the Majesty logo on the floor.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Lucien on January 13, 2014, 06:24:13 PM
I'm thinking Trial of Tears or Illumination Theory with the lens flare
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 13, 2014, 06:40:19 PM
I decided to make ANOTHER setlist, guessing what they could do for the Boston show, with the choir and/or strings in the second set. I included all of DT12 and included 2 songs from both SFAM and Awake for their anniversaries. The show comes out to about 3 minutes and 5 minutes, probably a little longer if you consider the intermission, as well as any extra time inbetween songs and anything extra they add to songs.

Set 1 (Dream Theater):

False Awakening Suite (intro tape)
The Glass Prison
The Enemy Inside
---
Afterlife
Behind the Veil
Take the Time
Enigma Machine
Trial of Tears
The Bigger Picture
--- SFAM Turns 15 ---
Through Her Eyes (w/ saxophone)
Finally Free
---

intermission

Set 2 (Dream Theater w/ Strings and/or Choir depending on songs):

A Nightmare to Remember
The Looking Glass
--- Awake Turns 20 ---
The Mirror (+ reprise)
Space-Dye Vest
---
Surrender to Reason
Along for the Ride
Disappear
Illumination Theory
--- Encore ---
Easter Egg Outro
In the Name of God
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: sfam2112 on January 13, 2014, 07:03:22 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bd4Y7l9CUAAe4Ez.jpg:large)

He's already onstage waiting for the rest of the band  ;D
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 13, 2014, 07:04:51 PM
A Change of Seasons
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: tuto on January 13, 2014, 09:47:54 PM
So what are they doing?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Red_Queen on January 14, 2014, 03:43:54 AM
Ohhh that logo on the ground !
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: mikeyd23 on January 14, 2014, 07:38:02 AM
Oh wow! That logo on the stage certainly does look cool! Seeing actual rehearsal pics for the tour have made me very excited!! I'm not seeing these guys till they come to the US, but after tomorrow, I know the flood of YouTube videos will open up and I'll at least get to enjoy the new songs that way until April comes!  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Mladen on January 14, 2014, 08:44:15 AM
He's already onstage waiting for the rest of the band  ;D
:clap:
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 14, 2014, 09:35:44 AM
Predictions for the set with the choir and orchestra at the Boston show:

Set 1:
--SFAM Anniversary-- (because how awesome would it be for them to open with Scene 1 again?)
Overture 1928
Strange Deja Vu
Misunderstood (never been professionally recorded live)
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
The Bigger Picture
Take the Time
Enigma Machine
On the Backs of Angels
Trial of Tears

Set 2 with choir/orchestra:
False Awakening Suite played live (probably for the first time) (strings)
Blind Faith (strings)
Behind the Veil (intro played with strings as originally intended)
Surrender To Reason (choir)
--Awake Anniversary--
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream (strings)
Space Dye Vest (strings)
The Ministry of Lost Souls (strings)
Along For the Ride (strings+ choir)
Illumination Theory (strings + choir)

Easter Egg
In the Name of God (strings + choir)

I tried to leave out any songs already recorded with strings live, hence the lack of Metropolis, the Octavarium songs done on Score, and the 4 from LALP that used strings. A lot of DT12 seems very capable of adding strings or choir to enhance how it sounds. I also left out any song played on LALP with the exception of OtBoA, since they're definitely gonna play something off DT12 and that's my best guess as to which one.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: genome on January 14, 2014, 12:40:19 PM
I'm just as interested to see what they do with the venue as a whole, especially judging by this post by Mangini on Facebook:

Quote
Playing in Porto in a couple of days... that old building is going to turn into a giant party den  ;D See you soon if you're going !
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 15, 2014, 02:26:16 AM
If they are going to play any of SDOIT I sure hope its About To Crash Reprise and Losing Time. Heard WIMH and TTTSTA far too many times now...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on January 15, 2014, 05:47:27 AM
I am not taking any set-list predictions without A Change of Seasons seriously.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 15, 2014, 06:28:04 AM
Let the guesses commence (on setlist.fm)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2014/coliseu-do-porto-oporto-portugal-3bc58c50.html

 :tdwn for this idea!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 15, 2014, 06:55:23 AM
Clearly made by an amateur, it's only a single-set show!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BlobVanDam on January 15, 2014, 06:57:37 AM
Let the guesses commence (on setlist.fm)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2014/coliseu-do-porto-oporto-portugal-3bc58c50.html

 :tdwn for this idea!

I don't know what would be ":tdwn" about it other than not being an Evening With show, and thus shorter.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TAC on January 15, 2014, 12:32:26 PM
OK my set list prediction.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
The Looking Glass
Beyond This Life
Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
Take The Time
The Bigger Picture
Trial Of Tears

A Nightmare To Remember
Only A Matter Of Time
Behind The Veil
Disappear
Surrender To Reason
On The Backs Of Angels
Along For The Ride
Illumination Theory

Encore:
Space Dye Vest
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: As I Am on January 15, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
my set list prediction.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
You Not Me
The Looking Glass
Beyond This Life
Enigma Machine
Only A Matter Of Time
The Bigger Picture
Take The Time

The Glass Prison
Lie
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
On The Backs Of Angels
Along For The Ride
The Spirit Carries On
In The Name Of God

Encore:
Space Dye Vest
Illumination Theory
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: kolahola on January 15, 2014, 12:59:23 PM
It's my first time with DT, so i seriously NEED them playing The Spirit Carries On. No, they cant play it (almost) every time since Scenes From a Memory and now stop playing it.
It would be like a bad joke, or worse...
I guess it would be great to play a few songs from DT12:  FAS, Enemy Inside, Looking Glass, Along for Ride, IT... and then play some epics like The Count of Tuscany, ACOS, and the rest of amazing songs (The Root of all Evil or This Dying Soul, Learning to Live, Metropolis for sure, Misunderstood, Trial of Tears, and Breaking All Illusions).
Of course a plenty of  Awake and Scenes from a Memory, cause of their 15 and 20 (Scenes: Strange Deja Vu, Home, Dance of Eternity, TSCO...)  (Awake: Scarred, 6:00, Innocence Faded, Scarred, Space Dye Vest)
Oh and I forgot In The Name of God, and an instrumental.

Do you agree?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Cool Chris on January 15, 2014, 01:10:22 PM
Space-Dye Vest would be a fine encore, but a terrible choice for the last song of the night.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: BFRedrocks on January 15, 2014, 01:16:35 PM
Space-Dye Vest would be a fine encore, but a terrible choice for the last song of the night.

Agreed, but if you paired it with IT, that would be epic!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 15, 2014, 01:29:42 PM
my set list prediction.

False Awakening Suite
The Enemy Inside
You Not Me
The Looking Glass
Beyond This Life
Enigma Machine
Only A Matter Of Time
The Bigger Picture
Take The Time

The Glass Prison
Lie
Behind The Veil
Surrender To Reason
On The Backs Of Angels
Along For The Ride
The Spirit Carries On
In The Name Of God

Encore:
Space Dye Vest
Illumination Theory
Something tells me the bolded song won't be played for at least another eternity.  :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 15, 2014, 11:03:23 PM
I made a version of the set used in Portugal to create a very similar but slightly altered set that I would like for Toronto. I took out OTBOA and replaced it with Misunderstood, took out Lifting Shadows, both to add The Bigger Picture, and because the Awake set is a whole 10 minutes longer than the SFAM encore set, which is pretty unfair. :P I didn't want to include ALL of DT12 minus one song (which I would have to do to keep the set time similar), so I only added TBP. Keep in mind I would still be happy with the set they just used, I just think this is a nice alternative.

False Awakening Suite (tape)
1. The Enemy Inside
2. The Shattered Fortress
3. Misunderstood
4. The Looking Glass
5. Trial of Tears
6. Enigma Machine (w/ drum solo)
7. Along for the Ride
8. Breaking All Illusions
---intermission---
9. The Mirror/
10. Lie
11. Scarred
12. Space-Dye Vest
13. The Bigger Picture
14. Illumination Theory
---encore---
15. Overture 1928
16. Strange Deja Vu
17. The Dance of Eternity
18. Finally Free
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: sfam2112 on January 15, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
took out Lifting Shadows, both to add The Bigger Picture, and because the Awake set is a whole 10 minutes longer than the SFAM encore set, which is pretty unfair. :P

Honestly, I would've cut Space-Dye Vest before Lifting Shadows. (Space Dye-Vest being slightly longer and Lifting Shadows being the better song in my opinion, but to each their own.  ;D )
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 16, 2014, 02:12:58 AM
That SFAM Encore is 26 mins (if they play it at album speed). So they can easily swap that with ACOS or Octavarium. But I think I would prefer the SFAM. My friend who is coming to Wembley with me in Feb wants to see two songs: ACOS and Panic Attack  :metal
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Rodni Demental on January 17, 2014, 12:15:44 AM
I think at this point it's safe to say we won't see many songs from the last tour. Assuming we get set rotation (so far 2 nights of the same set). I think the SFAM Encore will be exchanged for another Epic. I really have a feeling about ITPOE, it's almost the exact same length. But Also ACOS would probably get a lot of people excited. Also, Breaking all Illusions might get exchanged for In the Name of God? I don't know how established BAI is as a set closer, it's an awesome mini epic and I'm glad it's back but a lot of people have already seen it played aswell and it's been really awesome to see they're clearly trying to vary their sets and dig into their extensive back catalogue.

Also incoming Take The Time.. Okay I dunno, but probably. :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Jinx on January 17, 2014, 12:45:54 AM
If there is to be any rotation perhaps we might see it tonight,  the 2nd night in Spain.I'm kinda sad they didnt put LNF or TITL back into the set after they only started playing it on the last US leg last tour. We missed it completely :(
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: aprilethereal on January 17, 2014, 09:15:47 AM
I think the SFAM Encore will be exchanged for another Epic. I really have a feeling about ITPOE, it's almost the exact same length.

I guess there is almost zero chance that this will happen. It's SFAM's anniversary, and they are already playing their latest epic. Not only would playing two epics take up a huge lot of time, but also two epics back to back would be a bit too much both for the band and the audience imo.



Also, Breaking all Illusions might get exchanged for In the Name of God?

As much as I love BAI, seeing ITNOG live would be freaking awesome :metal
It might work even better as a set closer than BAI, and it's my in my top 5 DT songs :D



Also incoming Take The Time.. Okay I dunno, but probably. :P

Hopefully not :P
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Shadow2222 on January 17, 2014, 09:22:20 AM
Yeah, the only song I hope gets swapped out for the US tour is Breaking All Illusions. They played it nearly every night on the first US leg, and then again at every concert in the second leg.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 17, 2014, 09:33:05 AM
Bosk said that according to Wey there won't be any rotation in the setlists:
No, I know.  But Wey said there would be no rotating, and he is in a position to know, so unless he is deliberately trying to mislead us until a few set lists are out, I would say that is a sure bet.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 17, 2014, 09:38:29 AM
Bosk said that according to Wey there won't be any rotation in the setlists:
No, I know.  But Wey said there would be no rotating, and he is in a position to know, so unless he is deliberately trying to mislead us until a few set lists are out, I would say that is a sure bet.
Does this mean for every show they do the entire tour cycle, or just for the Evening With shows?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Shadow2222 on January 17, 2014, 09:43:03 AM
Bosk said that according to Wey there won't be any rotation in the setlists:
No, I know.  But Wey said there would be no rotating, and he is in a position to know, so unless he is deliberately trying to mislead us until a few set lists are out, I would say that is a sure bet.

Yeah, but does he mean even between legs? I assume it to be so, but I sure would love for BAI to go bai  bai  :lol
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 17, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
I assume it to be so, but I sure would love for BAI to go bai  bai  :lol
I approve (and agree) of this  :tup
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cramx3 on January 21, 2014, 04:28:39 PM
I assume it to be so, but I sure would love for BAI to go bai  bai  :lol
I approve (and agree) of this  :tup

If they are going to play songs from ADTOE then Id say stay.  If they are going to get away from playing songs from that album, then I would welcome it leaving.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: As I Am on January 21, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
ADTOE songs should go "Bye Bye-O"
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: A_Change_Of_Seasons on January 22, 2014, 03:53:22 PM
Really hoping they finally bring back "ACOS" at some point on this tour. It's the only DT song that I still feel I NEED to see.
It's a 50 50% chance that they probably play it live this tour for the North American Leg, and if they do, they will have to change the setlist a little, maybe replacing "TLG" "OTBOA" and "TSF" to play "ACOS" It will either the closing track for the first set, or the closing track of the show. Either way, i'm praying for them to play it live. It's been 10 years since they've played the song live. I think it's time for DT to bring their masterpiece back live, and if they don't on the American Leg, then they will probably bring it on their summer tour. The concert in Riverside will be my first DT concert and it will be amazing if they play it live. If they don't, then i'll go to their second leg North American tour just to hear "ACOS"(If there doing a second leg north american, and if the will actually play it live on their second leg) I'd love to hear the best song i've ever heard in my life live.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on January 22, 2014, 04:38:37 PM
It's a 50 50% chance that they probably play it live this tour for the North American Leg, and if they do, they will have to change the setlist a little, maybe replacing "TLG" "OTBOA" and "TSF" to play "ACOS" It will either the closing track for the first set, or the closing track of the show.
There's way less than a 50/50 shot. Especially considering the fact that there's already a 20 minute song. And there's no way that they're removing any of those three songs.

There's no evidence to suggest that there will even be a second leg, or a summer tour, or that it will contain ACoS.
I share in your hope though.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: A_Change_Of_Seasons on January 22, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
It's a 50 50% chance that they probably play it live this tour for the North American Leg, and if they do, they will have to change the setlist a little, maybe replacing "TLG" "OTBOA" and "TSF" to play "ACOS" It will either the closing track for the first set, or the closing track of the show.
There's way less than a 50/50 shot. Especially considering the fact that there's already a 20 minute song. And there's no way that they're removing any of those three songs.

There's no evidence to suggest that there will even be a second leg, or a summer tour, or that it will contain ACoS.
I share in your hope though.
Agree, but i won't loose hope. Theres light at the end of every tunnel, and if they don't happen to play it live. "FF" "TOT"(Trail Of Tears) and "SDV" will make the show for me.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cyberdrummer on January 22, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
The chance of ACOS coming back this tour is way less than 50%, more like 0.0001%
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on January 22, 2014, 04:58:18 PM
This just occured to me now. Why are they not playing any songs from the first album when its the album's 25th anniversary?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 22, 2014, 05:07:59 PM
This just occured to me now. Why are they not playing any songs from the first album when its the album's 25th anniversary?

They already did an anniversary thing for that album ten years ago. They played the entire album in full on one day, and a couple songs from the album appeared throughout the tour.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Shadow2222 on January 22, 2014, 10:33:36 PM
Honestly, I believe that on the next tour ACOS will get played, considering 2015 is it's 20th anniversary. I wouldn't have said that that means much, but considering what they are doing for Awake...
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ? on January 22, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
I'm not sure how likely this is to happen, but DT could play a 30th anniversary tour next year, with a setlist including something from each album and ACOS as the encore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on January 23, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
For all those vying for A Change of Seasons in this thread: last night I saw Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and Chris Broderick (Megadeth) play Crimson Sunset at the Metal Masters show in Anaheim.  Quite unexpected.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: ninja1125 on January 23, 2014, 02:46:06 PM
This just occured to me now. Why are they not playing any songs from the first album when its the album's 25th anniversary?

They already did an anniversary thing for that album ten years ago. They played the entire album in full on one day, and a couple songs from the album appeared throughout the tour.
I know but I would think they would at least play one song considering a 25th anniversary is more significant than 15 and 20 imo.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 23, 2014, 04:21:28 PM
This just occured to me now. Why are they not playing any songs from the first album when its the album's 25th anniversary?

They already did an anniversary thing for that album ten years ago. They played the entire album in full on one day, and a couple songs from the album appeared throughout the tour.
I know but I would think they would at least play one song considering a 25th anniversary is more significant than 15 and 20 imo.

I see what you mean, considering it's also their debut, but it's also generally not a fan favourite, especially when compared to Awake and SFAM.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on January 23, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
I'm not sure how likely this is to happen, but DT could play a 30th anniversary tour next year, with a setlist including something from each album and ACOS as the encore.
Could we see a Score type DVD commemorating 30 years like they did with their 20th? If the follow the pattern of the last decade or so, they'll finish touring at the end of this year, then next year start on DT13. But since they waited 4 months to start touring, maybe they'll keep touring til spring of 2015 and make the next album come out late 2015/early 2016.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on January 23, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
I'm not sure how likely this is to happen, but DT could play a 30th anniversary tour next year, with a setlist including something from each album and ACOS as the encore.
Could we see a Score type DVD commemorating 30 years like they did with their 20th? If the follow the pattern of the last decade or so, they'll finish touring at the end of this year, then next year start on DT13. But since they waited 4 months to start touring, maybe they'll keep touring til spring of 2015 and make the next album come out late 2015/early 2016.

I definitely foresee the next album not releasing until early 2016, slightly breaking the two year cycle, similar to the gap inbetween SFAM and SDOIT.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: dtrox08 on February 25, 2014, 12:29:26 PM
What's up with this keeping the same exact setlist every show? Will the entire tour be like that? Kind of upsetting. It's not a bad set or anything but I just like when they change it up more.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: GasparXR on February 25, 2014, 01:39:16 PM
What's up with this keeping the same exact setlist every show? Will the entire tour be like that? Kind of upsetting. It's not a bad set or anything but I just like when they change it up more.

They want to have a really solid and dialed-in show this time around, both performance-wise and aesthetics-wise, that is the lighting and video show. I think it's a great idea for them to have a specific show that they want everyone to see. If they do a second leg of each region later on, I could see them having a different set though.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Laughingplace56 on February 25, 2014, 09:50:15 PM
Most bands keep a locked in set per leg. For each tour, there's usually some songs switched around. I've only ever seen DT do completely different sets every night honestly. Plenty of bands switch around songs here and there from time to time or even nightly, but with the production DT's showing off this tour, it's way better to have a permanent set list. There's no way they'll keep the same set for the entire tour cycle of DT12. That makes absolutely no sense to me. I've never seen a band use one permanent set for the entire duration of a tour cycle in support of a new album, especially when the set leaves off 3 of the songs.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: cramx3 on February 26, 2014, 07:58:47 AM
Most bands keep a locked in set per leg. For each tour, there's usually some songs switched around. I've only ever seen DT do completely different sets every night honestly. Plenty of bands switch around songs here and there from time to time or even nightly, but with the production DT's showing off this tour, it's way better to have a permanent set list. There's no way they'll keep the same set for the entire tour cycle of DT12. That makes absolutely no sense to me. I've never seen a band use one permanent set for the entire duration of a tour cycle in support of a new album, especially when the set leaves off 3 of the songs.

Bands have done that, Iron Maiden, but I would expect the current set lost to stay the same through all currently scheduled dates. I would expect the set to then change if they tour Europe and NA a second time. Also if the tour extends to 2015, the anniversary songs don't make sense anymore.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Grizz on February 26, 2014, 08:53:26 PM
PN09/BCSL10 had lots of variation and was aesthetically the best IMO.
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Prog Snob on February 26, 2014, 11:01:18 PM
For all those vying for A Change of Seasons in this thread: last night I saw Portnoy, Billy Sheehan and Chris Broderick (Megadeth) play Crimson Sunset at the Metal Masters show in Anaheim.  Quite unexpected.

It's not that unexpected if you've seen their live DVD.   ;)
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: Thierry on April 18, 2014, 01:32:59 AM
Hello all,

I've seen DT twice this year already in Amsterdam and Dusseldorf. Will they shake up the setlist this summer. I have tickets for 2 shows now Gelsenkirchen and Tilburg, if they play the same set again I'll think I'll try to sell the tickets. I have no desire to see the same show 4 times in a row.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: TheAtliator on April 24, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
I hope so and I might even say I'm predicting so (I really really hope so). Looks like I'm going to go through another few months of withdrawal.. Ooh youtube and DTF how I will miss you again.


I'm hoping-

(FAS intro tape)
The Enemy Inside
This Dying Soul
---
Blind Faith
Enigma Machine
Surrender to Reason
Octavarium

--------intermission--------

Constant Motion
Only a Matter of Time
---(25 years)
Light Fuse and Getaway
The Killing Hand
Outcry
Disappear
Behind the Veil
Along For the Ride
Illumination Theory
----encore------
Take the Time

I am REALLY pleased with the current list, Awake being my favorite album, plus I really wanted to see TSF and FF, so that was really good. Hopefully I'm just as pleased if they do another leg with a new list!
Title: Re: 2014 Setlist Predictions Thread
Post by: robwebster on April 25, 2014, 12:25:40 AM
They've said they're likely to make some changes if they revisit markets they've previously played, yes. I don't know how big the changes will be, and I don't know if markets refers to countries or just cities, but they've spoken about modifying the set.