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Title: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: KevShmev on June 25, 2013, 12:15:15 PM
Of the two demo versions, which one do you like better?  I just listened to both, and I think the '91 version is vastly superior.  The keys are more up front, and Petrucci's playing during the breaks is just better.
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Post by: JRuivo on June 25, 2013, 12:24:20 PM
The '94 version is my 2nd most played DT track (after Innocence Faded). That pretty much sums it up :metal I love the U2 influences on both To Live Forever and Lifting Shadows off a Dream, 2 of my favourite DT ballads ever.
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: ? on June 25, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
'94 version easily, because it has the final verse with KM's lyrics, the Awake production and a better guitar solo. Besides, I think the melody before the final verse sounds better when it's a unison and the slightly slower tempo fits the song better.
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Post by: KevShmev on June 25, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
See, I think the slower tempo makes it feel too plodding.  I agree that the solo is probably better, and the last verse is nice, but a lot of the little things in the '91 version are just much better, IMO. And JLB sounds much better in the older version.
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Post by: Unlegit on June 25, 2013, 06:49:33 PM
Although James is better on the '91 demo, I prefer the '94 slightly.
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Post by: Infinite Cactus on June 25, 2013, 07:39:10 PM
Although James is better on the '91 demo, I prefer the '94 slightly.
This.
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Post by: wasteland on June 26, 2013, 01:16:08 AM
I really like the added 1994 verse, but the original 91 has an edge for me. The seminal 1991 demo with James LaBrie (not the one that ended up on COTC) is probably my favourite working version of any song. :)
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: KevShmev on June 27, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
The '91 demo is in the lead.  :tup :tup
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: hefdaddy42 on June 27, 2013, 03:25:48 PM
I can't choose.  I like different things about each one.
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Post by: Madman Shepherd on June 27, 2013, 09:55:41 PM
I went with '91 but I think the WDADRU version with James & Charlie trumps both
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 28, 2013, 11:22:22 AM
I went with '91 but I think the WDADRU version with James & Charlie trumps both

I agree with the WDADR version. Charlies vocals really fit that song well
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Post by: Lolzeez on June 29, 2013, 06:47:48 AM
'94 version easily, because it has the final verse with KM's lyrics, the Awake production and a better guitar solo. Besides, I think the melody before the final verse sounds better when it's a unison and the slightly slower tempo fits the song better.
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Post by: Jaffa on June 29, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
I voted for '94 because I was confused about which one was which.  I would change my vote if I could.  The '91 version is superior. 
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Post by: cramx3 on June 29, 2013, 05:57:18 PM
I like the Live in Tokyo version.
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Post by: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2013, 08:11:38 AM
My favorite live version is on 5YIALT.
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: wasteland on July 01, 2013, 08:20:45 AM
My favorite live version is on 5YIALT.

This hef knows his shit.  :tup
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Post by: TAC on July 01, 2013, 08:28:46 AM
As big of Dream Theater fan as I am, I couldn't possibly begin to tell you the difference between ANY of the TLF versions. It's just a song that I really find pretty boring and my ears kind of glaze over whenever I hear it.

That said, I LOVE the version on the Wallingford, CT 3-30-04 boot.
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Post by: wasteland on July 01, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
As big of Dream Theater fan as I am, I couldn't possibly begin to tell you the difference between ANY of the TLF versions. It's just a song that I really find pretty boring and my ears kind of glaze over whenever I hear it.

That said, I LOVE the version on the Wallingford, CT 3-30-04 boot.

You know very well that I am the one who will always agree on that point!

I already posted it more than once, but for reference, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VddMqW-I44
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Post by: ZirconBlue on July 08, 2013, 10:52:54 AM
I voted for '94 because I was confused about which one was which.  I would change my vote if I could.  The '91 version is superior.


I was going to vote '94, but, instead I'll vote '91 to correct your misvote.
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Post by: Jaffa on July 08, 2013, 11:31:55 AM
Thanks, buddy.   :tup
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Post by: bosk1 on July 08, 2013, 11:50:17 AM
I've always enjoyed the song, but I have to confess:  I haven't listened to it enough that I could even tell you the difference between the '91 version and the '94 version without going back and listening.  In fact, I don't even recall where the '94 version comes from.  Can someone do a quick list of all the different version of the song and where they are found?  (e.g., I know there is a version with Charlie, 2 different vocalist audition version and James' Atco Demos verseion on the Images & Words Demos, the live version with James and Charlie on WDADRU, etc.)  If someone could compile that, I would appreciate it.
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Post by: Jaffa on July 08, 2013, 12:04:45 PM
I would also appreciate such a list.

(In fact, I think bosk might be asking for it on my behalf.  I can't be sure about that, though.   :lol)
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: bosk1 on July 08, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
I think we have a mutual interest.  :)
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Post by: Jaffa on July 08, 2013, 12:14:38 PM
 :tup

Was about to edit my post, but since you posted again, I'll just say it: I don't know where the '94 version originally comes from, but if you're just interested in hearing it, it's the version that appears on Greatest Hit. 
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Post by: bosk1 on July 08, 2013, 12:18:27 PM
I forgot there was a version of the song on Greatest Hit at all.  :lol
Title: Re: To Live Forever - Which demo/studio version do you like better?
Post by: wasteland on July 08, 2013, 12:19:50 PM
The '94 version was originally released as the B-Side of the Lie single.
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Post by: LCArenas on July 09, 2013, 10:25:39 AM
'91. It sounds more original to me, and the KM verse in '94 seems kinda rushed. I don't like it.
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Post by: Tom Bombadil on July 09, 2013, 02:10:08 PM
I honestly only heard both of these for the first time last week (Thanks DTF!) and they totally blew me away. I personally liked the '91 version more. I think the middle section has so much more power and feel to it. Both are great though