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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: webpoet73 on April 03, 2013, 07:23:42 PM
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Source: Yahoo Sports (https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/nice-goin-boyfriend-woman-hit-face-home-run-155544899--mlb.html)
Heath Bell of the Arizona Diamondbacks gave up two home runs Tuesday night and nobody feels worse about it than Heath Bell. Except for the woman who was hit in the face with one of the home runs as her male companion — presumably her husband — cowered in fear and jumped out of the way.
That's right, we got another ducker.
In 2010, a woman's boyfriend infamously bailed as a foul ball came screaming at her. You remember Bo the Bailer! It would be nice if something like this happened only once every three years.
Pete Kozma of the St. Louis Cardinals went deep against Bell in the seventh inning, some 420 feet away in left-center at Chase Field in Phoenix. As the ball came in hot, a female fan — probably in her 20s — turned her head and covered up to protect herself as she sat in her seat. Meanwhile, the man seated next to her sprung up, pulled his arms close to his own body, gave a goofy expression and jumped out of the way as the ball hit his companion in the face. In the face!
As Cards' broadcaster Al Hrabosky put it:
"Nice goin', boyfriend."
If you look closely at the video, they're both wearing wedding rings. Not sure if they're betrothed to each other — at all, or for much longer, after this. Patting her head like she was a puppy completes the living family photo, though. What a Melvin.
There are rules of etiquette about interacting with foul balls/home runs at ballparks. Protecting children and other significant family members comes first. Protecting your beer comes next. (Protecting your computer comes first in the press box.) Jumping out of the way, at all, is bad enough — an exception being with screaming foul balls. Usually, people at stadiums climb over each other for a baseball, and that's not good either. But thinking of yourself at the expense of others is a total George Costanza moment, and not something you ever live down. Nor should you.
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webpoet73 says: My wife would kill me if I did this to her...
* pics and vid at source
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I love how people get so mad about this, who wouldn't try to get out of the way?! It's a natural reaction!
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Guess his dad never taught him how to catch a baseball when he was a kid.
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Guess his dad never taught him how to catch a baseball when he was a kid.
If he wasn't wearing a glove that would have really fucking hurt..
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
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My dad got hit in the head by a foul ball once.
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It was on a direct course for her anyway, regardless of whether he moved or not. He was standing next to her, not in front of her. Every time they showed him I kept seeing Sheldon from Big Bang.
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
It's called "chivalry".
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I love how people get so mad about this, who wouldn't try to get out of the way?! It's a natural reaction!
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
It's called "chivalry".
Women fought for years for equality... That includes having to catch a baseball.
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Chivalry? :facepalm: This is one of those cases where doing the normal thing that anyone would do gets people all up in arms. I feel bad for that guy :lol
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
It's called "chivalry".
It's called "gender inequality". I hold the door open for dates, but I also hold the door open for guy strangers because I'm nice, not chivalrous. If it was the girl that moved out the way and the guy got hit, people would probably be laughing at him as if he were one of the Three Stooges.
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I'm with HarlequinForest, Rattlehead, and Chino 1000% on this. Anyone giving the dude shit is probably one of the following:
1. One of those people who live for drama or to criticize others, warranted or not.
2. A closet sexist for indirectly implying a grown woman can't defend herself from a falling (not even pitched, just falling) baseball and that a man is obligated to baby her by protecting her from this "rogue" projectile. They obviously wouldn't give the girl shit if the dude got hit because of her "negligence."
3. In need of more fulfilling activities to occupy their free time.
I guess this thread has the potential to become DTF's inane piss match of the week.
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
It's called "sexism".
FTFY
I say this is her own fault. The guy saw the ball coming towards them, and got out of the way, which is what anyone who wasn't going to try and catch the ball should do. The girlfriend just turned her head, and waited to be hit, when she should have done the same thing he did, kept her eyes on the ball and got out of its way.
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Yeah, I would never expect a guy (or anyone) to take the wrath of a flying baseball for me. She's a grown-ass woman, and anyone talking about "chivalry" is living in a different time.
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I heard the guy is also getting ripped for not taking his baseball jersey off and throwing it over a puddle of beer at the game for his girlfriend to walk over. :lol
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OK, guess I gotta put in my two cents here....
What the fuck type of baseball fan avoids a home run ball? Any fan with two babymakers still dangling between his legs and the memories of playing catch with grandpa as a child ringing through his head would have knocked his old lady out of the way to get the fucking ball.
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Is that guy that caught that ball from the Cubs game still in hiding?
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If it were a line drive foul I'd back the guy. Instincts are a bitch to overcome. That was a pop fly, though. Catching the ball and protecting his old lady should have been a gut reaction.
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Why? Nobody has stated any reason other than arcane, patronizing mentalities as a basis for why a presumably fully-mentally-functioning adult woman can't protect herself from a benign baseball. Sorry, but dogging a guy out because he doesn't adhere to antiquated pretense is immature at best.
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What a little shit.
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This guy knows how... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj5ZgWqPCdU)
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Yeah, I would never expect a guy (or anyone) to take the wrath of a flying baseball for me. She's a grown-ass woman, and anyone talking about "chivalry" is living in a different time.
Well, I am old...
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:lol
It's so lovely to see you! Now come open this door for me.
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I would've protected my wife, not because of chivalry or sexism or whatever you want to call it, but because she's my wife and my first instinct would be to protect her from something hard flying at her head. Yeah, we're at a baseball game and we know there's a slight but real chance that a ball will come flying at you. So I'm supposed to let it hit her and say "Sorry babe, you knew the risks"? I don't think so.
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It's not like he knew for sure that it was going to hit her though. I think this notion that he just "let it hit her" is kind of ridiculous considering how it's not exactly easy to tell where a ball like that is going to land, especially when you're trying to protect yourself. I also completely agree with Harlequin that if the man got hit people would probably just be laughing at him.
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Why? Nobody has stated any reason other than arcane, patronizing mentalities as a basis for why a presumably fully-mentally-functioning adult woman can't protect herself from a benign baseball. Sorry, but dogging a guy out because he doesn't adhere to antiquated pretense is immature at best.
It has nothing to do with arcane concepts of chivalry. If I were attending the game with Jose Conseco, I'd still try to keep him from getting walloped with a ball. That's just common courtesy. Maybe he's drinking a beer or hitting on the girl in front of us and doesn't see the ball coming. Maybe we're deeply engrossed discussing 18th century social legislation. If I see a ball coming and it's something I can safely make a play for, I'm not going to stop and consider whether or not the person next to me should fend for himself or not.
Like I said, if it's a line drive, I'd understand if fight or flight kicked in; you can't outrun adrenaline. But something like that, you do what you can to make sure no one gets hurt.
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
It's called "chivalry".
Women fought for years for equality... That includes having to catch a baseball.
:clap:
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It's not like he knew for sure that it was going to hit her though. I think this notion that he just "let it hit her" is kind of ridiculous considering how it's not exactly easy to tell where a ball like that is going to land, especially when you're trying to protect yourself. I also completely agree with Harlequin that if the man got hit people would probably just be laughing at him.
That's all true. But you're at a baseball game supposedly to watch the game, right? Someone hits a line drive out towards you, what are you looking at besides the ball? And no, you can't tell exactly where it's going, but protecting yourself isn't an excuse for letting someone else get hurt.
I've actually hurt myself "protecting" my wife and kids from stuff that turned out not to be a threat, and we laughed about it later, but I figured that's just how it works. If you love someone, your first instinct is not to protect yourself, but to protect them. So in a weird way, this was like a "test" and the dude failed.
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Quick hits...
I don't blame anybody for instinctively moving away from an incoming baseball
He should have been paying attention though
Then again if I'm at a baseball game I'm going to try and do whatever I can not to have to watch baseball, it's a horrible boring fucking sport with almost no redeeming values. I'd honestly rather watch a chess match. Hell, I'd rather watch a chess match than PLAY baseball.
Saying the guy had some sort of duty to protect the woman on the basis of her being a woman IS sexist, regardless of age.
However if you are watching and have time to react and don't at least try to deflect the ball from the people around you then you simply fail!
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Thats too funny.
The guy probably just saw it and reacted by protecting himself. As any human would do upon seeing a ball that close in that short amount of time. ..
Chino I really agree with you on the equality thing.what if he wasn't there at all, would she still have gotten hit or actually protected herself as she shouldve done. My god is she that helpless...
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Okay, just watched the video. He totally should have at least tried to catch that.
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I love how people get so mad about this, who wouldn't try to get out of the way?! It's a natural reaction!
cus men is sposed 2 stand up 4 dey grl no mattr wut :heart :heart
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:rollin God damn it, lie... RIGHT when I took a sip of my momosa. I could completely see that being posted on a social networking site. Any of them.
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Okay, just watched the video. He totally should have at least tried to catch that.
My first thought as well. While not a can of corn, that was not a line drive that was going to rip his hands off.
This is also a function of making MLB parks more ‘family friendly.’ Turn the outfield stands in to an outdoor dining experience, and you’re going to get more people there for the social aspect than for the game itself. “What the hell? A baseball flew right in to my table and interrupted my dinner!”
Also, LOL at the broadcaster calling that guy out.
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Jesus, it's a baseball. If you can't avoid getting hit, that's your own fault. Why should the guy be expected to protect her from that?
Only a complete idiot sits there and waits to be hit by a ball. It's the woman's fault. Period.
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I think they should both be raped and murdered. :azn:
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I'm still just curious to see if any of the dude's critics will be able back up their point of view with anything more legit than stuff like "It's the MAN's duty to protect" or "I woulda done it."
That's all true. But you're at a baseball game supposedly to watch the game, right? Someone hits a line drive out towards you, what are you looking at besides the ball? And no, you can't tell exactly where it's going, but protecting yourself isn't an excuse for letting someone else get hurt.
I've actually hurt myself "protecting" my wife and kids from stuff that turned out not to be a threat, and we laughed about it later, but I figured that's just how it works. If you love someone, your first instinct is not to protect yourself, but to protect them. So in a weird way, this was like a "test" and the dude failed.
You're basically vilifying this dude and making his girl out to have the self preservation skills of a child in one fell swoop. It almost sounds like you have some grudge against the dude for being different from you.
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I'm still just curious to see if any of the dude's critics will be able back up their point of view with anything more legit than stuff like "It's the MAN's duty to protect" or "I woulda done it."
Yeah, basically this. :P
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I already did.
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black_floyd, I generally agree that the guy is not the worst guy ever for doing what he didn't do, but let's be serious for a minute: everyone is gonna react in a different way in a situation like that. Say for example you are driving 70 MPH on the highway and the guy in front of you suddenly slams on the breaks, you and your g/f are in the car, and even though you are slamming on your brakes, you know there is no way you are not gonna slam into him at a high speed, are you gonna take the "I will brace for the impact myself and screw my g/f, she can take care of herself" approach? I know that many of us would brace for the impact while at the same time throw our right arm in front of our g/f merely as a reactionary, impulsive move. It is not a well-thought thing; it is just your split second reaction. Same thing with the guy and his girl at the baseball game. Many of us would duck out of the way like he did; many of us would protect her if we saw the ball going straight at her. Neither way is necessarily wrong. That is why this is not black and white. Like I said, we can all sit here all day saying what we would have done, but until you are in that actual situation, you really do not know.
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I already did.
I think that's more chocked up to that not being a universal gut reaction.
EDIT: Didn't notice, but Kev explained basically what I'm getting at just above.
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I made the allowance for instinctive reaction in my post. Unpredictable and not worthy of blame. However, what BF is looking for is the rational, thought out reasoning. Presumably, what that guy should have done had he recognized what was going down and had a second to think it over. I maintain that he should have made a play for the ball, and it has nothing to do with whether or not it's a man, woman or child seated next to him. If there's a possibility that somebody might get hurt, and you can prevent it with little risk of injury to yourself, then basic human decency says that you do it. My thought process would be more along the lines of "maybe that person doesn't know they're fixing to get clocked," rather than "she's a chick, I'd better jump to her rescue."
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My thought process would be more along the lines of "maybe that person doesn't know they're fixing to get clocked," rather than "she's a chick, I'd better jump to her rescue."
Personally, I'm not sure what's wrong with thinking that those aren't both perfectly valid responses.
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I'm still just curious to see if any of the dude's critics will be able back up their point of view with anything more legit than stuff like "It's the MAN's duty to protect" or "I woulda done it."
That's all true. But you're at a baseball game supposedly to watch the game, right? Someone hits a line drive out towards you, what are you looking at besides the ball? And no, you can't tell exactly where it's going, but protecting yourself isn't an excuse for letting someone else get hurt.
I've actually hurt myself "protecting" my wife and kids from stuff that turned out not to be a threat, and we laughed about it later, but I figured that's just how it works. If you love someone, your first instinct is not to protect yourself, but to protect them. So in a weird way, this was like a "test" and the dude failed.
You're basically vilifying this dude and making his girl out to have the self preservation skills of a child in one fell swoop. It almost sounds like you have some grudge against the dude for being different from you.
No, what I'm saying is that if you love somebody, your first instinct is to protect them. If your first instinct is to protect yourself, and after a second to think about it (which he had) you still haven't made any move to protect them from harm, then you suck.
Look, I'm not perfect, but there's reflex and then there's what you do. So yeah he and I are different, but I'm not down on him because he's different; I'm down on him because he stood there and let his wife/girlfriend/whatever get beaned and he didn't do anything about it.
Is there audio? Maybe he yelled at her to look out, and that's why she reacted the way she did. She did seem to try to cover her face. In that case, yes, he did do something and isn't a loser.
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So you WOULD go down on him.
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I can understand how frustrating this is to watch for someone who would have instinctively gone and caught that ball, but not everyone is like that. There are reasons people react the way they do, and it's not always cut-and-dry self-centeredness. Sometimes it is. I don't know enough about these two people to judge the actions of either one of them.
I would hope that anyone capable of catching a ball like that, or at least stopping it without losing your teeth, would do so to protect those around you no matter whether it be family, GF/BF or strangers (male or female).
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I would probably protect my girlfriend, not because I'm a gentleman, only because I don't want to be walking around with her with a fucked up face from a baseball.
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I'm not going to blame the guy. No one wants to get hit with a baseball, but he had plenty of time to catch it. He was following it the whole way down. I thought catching a flyball was a big deal at Baseball games.
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I would probably protect my girlfriend, not because I'm a gentleman, only because I don't want to be walking around with her with a fucked up face from a baseball.
Yeah, better that she dump you cause you have a fucked up face from a baseball, right? :lol