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Title: Amaranthe
Post by: Gadough on February 11, 2013, 06:53:29 PM
Anyone else like this band? They have three vocalists: two clean and one harsh. It's a combination that works surprisingly well. The songs are simplistic, but very catchy. Definitely worth a listen.

Kamelot fans will recognize Elize Ryd as one of the vocalists. She's also quite easy on the eyes. :eyebrows:

A few songs:

The Nexus (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SxOybZcRXhI#t=63s)

Hunger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9y25snz83ms#t=25s)

One Million Lightyears (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DbAruY9z-w)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on February 11, 2013, 07:02:09 PM
It took me a little while to get into them, but me likey now.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: bosk1 on February 11, 2013, 07:02:53 PM
Started to watch the first video, but saw that the song was only 4:28, and stopped it about :10 seconds in.  4:28 isn't nearly prog enough to justify watching.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Gadough on February 11, 2013, 07:06:08 PM
Not even that, with the full minute of movie trailer BS before the song. :lol
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: bosk1 on February 11, 2013, 07:38:10 PM
In all seriousness, I actually did listen to all three songs.  And I went in fully expecting to really like this, and ended up being disappointed.  There were definitely things I liked.  But overall, these guys do a lot of what annoys me about power metal.  Namely, every song sounds like they took a mid-tempo pop song, played it back at double the normal tempo, and then recorded some heavy guitar and fast double kick drum patterns over it.  I know that description grossly oversimplifies things, but that's the best way I can describe it.  And honestly, I'm not sure what it is about that that I don't like.  Given my tastes in music, it seems like I really should like that formula.  But I just don't for some reason.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Gadough on February 11, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
C'mon Bosk. If ZOOK can like it, so can you!
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: bosk1 on February 11, 2013, 08:10:05 PM
Wait...when did DTF become a Life cereal commercial.  :lol
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on February 12, 2013, 04:20:11 AM
C'mon Bosk. If ZOOK can like it, so can you!

Yeah bosk, I hate everything, but Amaranthe made my heart grow three sizes!
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: RazielSR on February 12, 2013, 08:44:39 AM
I will see them this april in Madrid. They will play in the Stratovarius concert as support band. I was seeing some videos in youtube, I don't like this band, but we'll see.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Dellers on February 12, 2013, 09:20:34 AM
They sound really Swedish with those catchy choruses. You can say whatever you want about the Swedes, but they know how to write melodies that work. It's been a while since I heard melodies like that though, as pop music these days has pretty much no melodic qualities to it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Dr. DTVT on February 12, 2013, 01:09:10 PM
Jingle.boy likes them a lot.  The album drags toward the end.  It didn't atand up well against other albums in the same haul, so if I ever quit buying albums (lol yeah right) I'll give it another chance.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: YtseCullen on February 20, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
I actually enjoy these guys, I really like the girls voice and the drumming!

Peter Wildoer was the one who turned me on to this band  :metal
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on February 20, 2013, 12:14:16 PM
I like them a lot but all their songs sound the same. I really like the video for the nexus though. I got into them a couple years ago when Elyze started touring with Kamelot.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: adace on March 16, 2013, 04:14:35 PM
So I had a listen to the new album and it's awesome despite the sameness. Really catchy/fun stuff!
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: YtseCullen on March 31, 2013, 06:00:50 PM
The New Album is awesome! Loving it so far :)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on July 18, 2013, 07:36:54 AM
Just saw them headline in NYC last night. They were amazing.  Really great live and the crowd was great singing and dancing along. I got to shake Jake E's. Hand, get a picture after the show with Andreas and then I caught the guitarists pic after it hit me in the head and stuck to it from my sweat.

My friend also screamed at Elize "you are very attractive" which lead everyone to laugh and her to smile at him which made him think for the rest of the evening that she had a thing for him  :hat
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: jingle.boy on July 18, 2013, 08:04:20 AM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on July 18, 2013, 10:42:19 AM
Yea, its a cheap show and they were great live. Id recommend it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 18, 2013, 10:47:07 AM
I like this band a lot, it's like extremely friendly and poppy metal  :lol They're very restrained in terms of the genre they play, but they do it well and I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Dr. DTVT on July 18, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.

For $16 I'd see anything that I'm slightly interested in.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on July 18, 2013, 08:31:10 PM
I discovered Amaranthe about two months ago and I'm totally digging them.

I also recently discovered Delain as well, their sound and style is more diverse than Amaranthe, but both groups kick ass.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on July 18, 2013, 09:13:20 PM
Delain is awesome indeed.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on July 20, 2013, 08:19:59 PM
I should check Delain out since I'm seeing them open for Kamelot in September
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on July 21, 2013, 01:34:19 PM
Is it just me or did the second half of this thread get deleted?
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: obscure on July 23, 2013, 01:41:12 PM
I'll just leave this here: https://www.ladyobscure.com/portfolio/amaranthe/

It's not my interview.. so you can check it out ;)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: kirksnosehair on July 24, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
Checked out a bunch of songs from Amaranthe on Youtube.  Not bad, but the harsh vocals kind of killed it for me.


Delain keeps coming up as one of my recommendations on Amazon.com.  Guess I should give them a try too.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 24, 2013, 12:52:18 PM
Oddly enough, the harsh vocals are my favorite part of Amaranthe. Elize is a great singer, but I don't like a lot of the melodies she sings.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2013, 12:55:54 PM
Checked out a bunch of songs from Amaranthe on Youtube.  Not bad, but the harsh vocals kind of killed it for me.


Delain keeps coming up as one of my recommendations on Amazon.com.  Guess I should give them a try too.

For me, they're tasteful enough that I (gasp) almost enjoy them.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on July 24, 2013, 12:58:36 PM
Checked out a bunch of songs from Amaranthe on Youtube.  Not bad, but the harsh vocals kind of killed it for me.


Delain keeps coming up as one of my recommendations on Amazon.com.  Guess I should give them a try too.

For me, they're tasteful enough that I (gasp) almost enjoy them.

This is the first step to the Dark Side. We are waiting for you.






:devoursoul:
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Lowdz on July 24, 2013, 01:40:10 PM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.

I'd pay more than that to stare at Elize for a couple of hours.  :heart
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: TheGreatPretender on July 24, 2013, 01:43:50 PM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.

Did you end up going? I would've went, but I had to work. Although, I wanted to go to see Kobra And The Lotus, but it would've ended up being a great show with both of them. Sucks that I missed it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: jingle.boy on July 24, 2013, 01:46:59 PM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.

Did you end up going? I would've went, but I had to work. Although, I wanted to go to see Kobra And The Lotus, but it would've ended up being a great show with both of them. Sucks that I missed it.

No, went down to the Falls with the family on Saturday instead.  By the time we got home, it was a tad late to head back downtown for the concert. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on July 24, 2013, 03:14:36 PM
They're playing Toronto on Saturday, and I'm seriously considering going.  It's only a $16 price tag.

I'd pay more than that to stare at Elize for a couple of hours.  :heart

My pictures from last week.

(https://s7.postimg.org/idjmhah87/IMG_20130717_220939_654.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/idjmhah87/)
(https://s12.postimg.org/9e7ynggq1/IMG_20130717_222058_673.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/9e7ynggq1/)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on May 01, 2014, 09:19:44 PM
I've come to the conclusion that The Nexus is better than the debut.

But Electroheart is slightly terrible.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on May 02, 2014, 02:35:15 AM
Amaranthe are now in-studio recording the next one.

On a related note, Delain just released The Human Contradiction.  I haven't been able to get into it yet to know much about it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on May 02, 2014, 03:04:39 AM
weez got a Delain thread now yo
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on May 02, 2014, 07:00:46 AM
Amaranthe are already recording another album? NICE.  I love them.  They were great in concert too, so much fun and energy although from the show I went to in NYC last year, Jake looked completely uninterested.  Anyway, Im pumped to see them in the fall when they open for Within Temptation....

and yes there is a Delain thread, but Ill add that I am really liking their new album so far. (and thier continued use of Marco as guest vocalist)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: adace on August 06, 2014, 11:28:19 AM
Massive Addictive is out Oct. 12!
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/amaranthemassivecd.jpg)
01. Dynamite
02. Drop Dead Cynical
03. Trinity
04. Massive Addictive
05. Digital World
06. True
07. Unreal
08. Over and Done
09. Danger Zone
10. Skyline
11. An Ordinary Abnormality
12. Exhale
Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/amaranthe-to-release-massive-addictive-in-october/#5wmZUjTtXACRKTR6.99
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 06, 2014, 12:56:17 PM
Cool, ill be getting it, but:

Quote
New screamer Henrik Englund Wilhelmsson puts his stamp on the material, as well.

What happened to the other screamer?  I actually liked his vocals for a screamer
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on August 06, 2014, 03:30:15 PM
I wish they'd just do away with the screamer. He makes the songs sound repetitive more than anything else.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on August 06, 2014, 03:31:38 PM
He was actually my favorite part of the band. :lol
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 06, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
I wish they'd just do away with the screamer. He makes the songs sound repetitive more than anything else.

I thought he added the most diversity honestly and im not a screamer fan in general.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on August 06, 2014, 05:08:33 PM
I wish they'd just do away with the screamer. He makes the songs sound repetitive more than anything else.

I thought he added the most diversity honestly and im not a screamer fan in general.

I'm generally not, and although I can tolerate that kind of screaming, he just adds nothing for me and nothing to the songs. Completely unnecessary.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 06, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
I wonder if this is the singer, thats me on the left with the screamer who toured with them last year in NYC.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/1073787_10104775427591714_645455966_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: adace on September 09, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Drop Dead Cynical is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WdpmjnIl_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WdpmjnIl_A)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on September 09, 2014, 12:46:53 PM
I was a sneaky bastard and heard it a few days ago. I actually don't mind it, but the chorus melody, mainly the name drop is ripped off from some butt rock song chorus I hear every so often at my work. All I remember of it is what sounds like "digital! Nah nah nah nah nah nah nah" Regardless, Amaranthe is pop metal and this song is that to the core.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on September 09, 2014, 03:01:40 PM
Not bad, but its missing that energy from the music of the first two albums.  I am also happy that the new screamer sounds fine, Im not a big fan of screamers in general but I liked the original one and was worried I might be turned off by the new guy.  He seems fine, I think he is actually the guy I am in the picture with above as he was touring with them last year.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on September 09, 2014, 07:53:11 PM
Yeah, something just doesn't feel right about this new song.  Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on September 10, 2014, 11:22:49 AM
Ive given it a bunch of listens now to form a better opinion... and I love it.  It's a bit different and it threw me off after the first listen, but this song is actually really awesome now.  Im not an EDM fan, but the beat at around 2:30 is actually pretty cool and feels right.  The chorus is catchy as usual for them.  Reminds me a lot of Manson's Beautiful people with the guitar rift and beat, which I was never really into, but this feels like its got that beat right.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on September 10, 2014, 11:23:31 AM
I like the song. New screamer is good.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 01, 2014, 09:01:10 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2e_3ZnJcTE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2e_3ZnJcTE)

New lyric video for the song Trinity

I like it.  Very pumped for the new album based on the two new songs.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 15, 2014, 04:45:07 PM
Massive Addictive is everything you'd expect from Amaranthe, except it's poppier than the first two albums combined. That being said, I really like it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: ShadowWalker on October 15, 2014, 07:22:15 PM
I caught them last week opening up for Within Temptation. Nothing I heard that night made me want to buy any of their music. I found the whole three vocalist thing to be almost distracting. Kind of interesting and different at first, but it felt more like a novelty and when the novelty feel wore off, about three songs into their set, I lost interest and was waiting for the headliner to take the stage. I thought the music was excellent, but not into the whole three-vocalist thing...
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 15, 2014, 07:42:26 PM
I kind of feel the same, but I've gotten used to it.  I'm hoping maybe one day they drop the male singers and just have Elize as the main vocalist. I don't mind Celine Dion Metal. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: jingle.boy on October 15, 2014, 08:43:51 PM
Never bothered with Album #2.  Debut was fun, but I think I'd get tired of them pretty quick.  Can't see me making an effort with #3
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: ErHaO on October 16, 2014, 07:00:52 AM
I caught them last week opening up for Within Temptation. Nothing I heard that night made me want to buy any of their music. I found the whole three vocalist thing to be almost distracting. Kind of interesting and different at first, but it felt more like a novelty and when the novelty feel wore off, about three songs into their set, I lost interest and was waiting for the headliner to take the stage. I thought the music was excellent, but not into the whole three-vocalist thing...

When I saw them live the singing guy was constantly out of tune and Elize also made quite some sour notes. Maybe a bad evening, but I found the whole performance sub-par. Se was better with Kamelot. The vibe was nice though and I still enjoyed it (but came for Stratovarius anyways).
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 16, 2014, 07:30:29 AM
I thought they were great last week when I saw them open for Within Temptation.  However, that was the second time I saw them and both times the clean male vocalists (Jake E) seems so uninterested.  I dont know whats up with him, but he gives such a negative vibe when he performs and it sucks because I love him on the albums.

As for Elyse, I think she tries to hard with being sexy and everything and sometimes her singing can suffer from it, but overall she is pretty good live.  The new screamer is really good though, he can perform.  In the US the new album isnt out yet so I have yet to listen, but given the two singles, I think it will be really good.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: ShadowWalker on October 16, 2014, 08:21:25 AM
I thought they were great last week when I saw them open for Within Temptation.  However, that was the second time I saw them and both times the clean male vocalists (Jake E) seems so uninterested.  I dont know whats up with him, but he gives such a negative vibe when he performs and it sucks because I love him on the albums.

As for Elyse, I think she tries to hard with being sexy and everything and sometimes her singing can suffer from it, but overall she is pretty good live.  The new screamer is really good though, he can perform.  In the US the new album isnt out yet so I have yet to listen, but given the two singles, I think it will be really good.

I think if it was just Elyse and the screamer, or even the clean guy and the screamer, it would have been better. Throwing another clean vocalist into the mix gave everything an unbalanced feel to it, from a vocal standpoint. Too much dynamic difference in each and every song. Individually, the singers were fine. But as a combined, it felt awkward and uneven.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 16, 2014, 08:26:49 AM
To each his own, I love it when both clean singers sing the catchy choruses together.  I think its original and works well.  The first two albums are very similar though and I think thats part of the problem with three singers, but I enjoy it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2014, 09:13:07 AM
I kind of feel the same, but I've gotten used to it.  I'm hoping maybe one day they drop the male singers and just have Elize as the main vocalist. I don't mind Celine Dion Metal.

This needs to happen.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 16, 2014, 09:17:41 AM
Fuck, I loved Trinity.

I love this band so much.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on October 17, 2014, 03:40:28 AM
Drop Dead Cynical has grown on me so I'll definitely iTunes this when it comes out.

One thing I don't get, though, is they use a lot of keyboards in their music but they don't have one on tour with them.  Yeah, play to a click track for the odd song, but when so much of you music has keys in it why not just get one?
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: efx on October 17, 2014, 09:06:17 AM
Really dig the new album, Olof from the band hooked me up with a preview stream a while back and I like it a lot more than the previous one which I felt was a bit uneven. This one pretty much rocks from beginning to end.

For PetFish's question about keyboard players, it's probably a combination of money (not having to pay an extra member to tour with them) and the fact that they then would be 7 players on stage which might be a bit cramped.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 17, 2014, 09:11:06 AM
Amaranthe is probably one of the best-sounding metal bands on the planet (production-wise, of course). The vocals sound amazing, the guitars sound amazing, etc. everything is so spot on and precise it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: adace on October 17, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
The new album's great. Might be my favorite of theirs.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 17, 2014, 05:01:48 PM
The new album's great. Might be my favorite of theirs.

Have to agree. Excellent album.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on May 14, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Saw them last night, they are touring with a different screamer.  They said his name and band he was from but I couldn't make it out.  Henrik is still the screamer, he just did not come for the tour due to his girlfriend giving birth to their child as the band said.  This was my third time seeing them, pretty solid performance overall and a lot of fun.  The highlight for me were the songs Massive Addictive, Drop Dead Cinical, and Dynamite (all songs from the newest album).  I got a couple cool videos:

Elize sang happy birthday to a girl in the crowd:

https://youtu.be/KCXaxGm0cmU (https://youtu.be/KCXaxGm0cmU)

and the full song Electroheart:

https://youtu.be/078bZMwwmms (https://youtu.be/078bZMwwmms)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on May 14, 2015, 03:49:52 PM
I can't stand full-time scream-o but Amaranthe has just enough to make it work, for me at least.  Also, even though I can't tell what makes a good screamer, I think I like the original guy better.

Also, they use so many keyboards in-studio, they really should get one to perform live with.  If it was only a little keys here and there, no big deal, but there's a lot of them.

My favourite album is still their first one and Amaranthine is what brought me in to begin with.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on May 15, 2015, 10:56:24 PM
New Video for Digital World:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6PYAkXO-bU

Some seriously heavy riffing in this one, especially at about 2:43.  I love their videos, the same guy does each one and also for other artists, it's so cool to have a theme/story to watch while listening.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2015, 06:26:46 AM
New Video for Digital World:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6PYAkXO-bU

Some seriously heavy riffing in this one, especially at about 2:43.  I love their videos, the same guy does each one and also for other artists, it's so cool to have a theme/story to watch while listening.

Yea Patric Ullaeus does a lot of the videos for bands I listen to.  Digital World is an awesome song.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on May 16, 2015, 08:57:02 PM
I just saw an ad for Amaranthe playing here in a few weeks but I just don't want to wrestle with general admission anymore.  Same reason why I won't be going to Halestorm here next month either and that really hurts.  :(
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on November 06, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
I saw Amaranthe a couple nights ago in New York City.  Surprisingly for a European band, this was the 4th time I've seen them in the last 2 years.  They have toured quite a bit in the US since releasing The Nexus.  First time ended up being the current singer Henrik.  I had no idea the original screamer had left so the first time ever seeing them was with a completely unknown singer (they didn't even say anything during the concert he was not the original singer).  Whatever, he was really good and ended up being the permanent singer, Henrik.  I actually got a picture with him and shared on this forum from that night.  Second time seeing them, they opened up for Within Temptation and were solid with the whole line up, but only performed for about 30 minutes.  The third time was not that long ago, playing at the same venue as the first time, and then there was a new screamer.  This guy was a good performer, but I wasn't crazy about his voice.  They said during the concert that he was just replacing Henrik for this tour while Henrik tends to his new born child.  Whatever, good show regardless.  They happened to sing happy birthday that night to a girl in the crowd and the replacement screamer which I recorded https://youtu.be/KCXaxGm0cmU (https://youtu.be/KCXaxGm0cmU).  So then I got to see them again for the 4th time last Wednesday.  Well they played almost the exact same set in the same order as last time (one song change https://youtu.be/Rf4IFMhWrjQ (https://youtu.be/Rf4IFMhWrjQ)) and guess what, they have a different singer, but this time it is the male clean vocalist Jake E that is replaced.  They once again say that this guy is only replacing Jake for the tour and also that Jake is home being a Dad.  Whatever, while the new guy wasn't great, it was still a great show.  So it also happened to be Elize's Cousin's birthday.  She was in the audience so we all sung happy birthday to her which I recorded https://youtu.be/rSaiDSNIznc (https://youtu.be/rSaiDSNIznc).  I got to also shake the guitarist and Elize's hands after the show.  So funny how this all worked out, but I had a blast each and everyone of the 4 times seeing them.  I also think it's obvious that it is Elize of the singers who holds the glue together for this band.   Oh yea, on facebook, ELIZE LIKED MY COMMENT on Amaranthe's post when I added the link to the happy birtday song.   :metal :metal :metal :metal
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on December 07, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
I've really been playing these guys a lot lately.

Almost all of their music is 4/4 but they do a lot of complex rhythm stuff that makes it sound complex.  The guitar/bass/drums are super tight and the drummer, man, he's awesome.  The music has so much energy to it.

I wish they'd get a live keyboard player.

I also wish they'd "play the music" more... like, if the song is 4 minutes they don't have to be singing for 3:50, lets sit on some melodies and riffs a little longer and let the song breathe a bit.  Halestorm has the same problem for me also, the music is great, so let's hear it more.  Actually, I think that's the way it is now everywhere, all anyone cares about is vocals it seems, so the more of that they can get in the better.

They ended up playing here in Vancouver in the downtown east side... the scuzziest, dirtiest, and most drug-infested place around and the poorest postal code (zip code) in Canada.  I didn't go.  I just hope they don't think Vancouver is actually like that when they went outside to look around.  Really an awful place to be.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on December 07, 2015, 05:08:14 PM
This last tour I noticed they had a guy sort of on stage doing the sound effects.  Didn't seem like he was playing keyboard but he was clearly visible and clearly in control of the keyboard sounds.  He even messed up at one point.  I have never noticed this before the previous 3 times seeing them, but agree, it's a large enough part of the music that I would really like them to get a full time band member or at least a touring keyboardist.... but they may not be big enough to do that.  Their stage is already crowded enough for 3 singers and they aren't popular enough to play larger venues with big stages.  I also wonder if that is why I noticed this guy because this last venue was really small.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Prog Snob on December 08, 2015, 05:55:04 AM
I was upset when I missed them last month but I'm sure they'll be back. I think they really do need to get someone to be the "sound effects" guy because that's a big part of their music.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on December 08, 2015, 06:01:54 PM
It looks like the guitar player does keys in the studio, which is fine if he wants to keep that part, but it would be great to get a live player for their shows.

The one track I can't get enough of right now is Over and Done.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on May 19, 2016, 10:51:51 AM
https://youtu.be/f5H4LN-VL7A (https://youtu.be/f5H4LN-VL7A)

Teaser for the new album, no new music.  Looks like it will be released in October.  Definitely an album I will be anticipating.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2016, 10:11:27 AM
New album info from facebook:

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'MAXIMALISM' to be released in October! Cover art, album title and track listing revealed!
Full press release below;
AMARANTHE, the cutting-edge Swedish pop-metal outfit with the triple-lead-vocal attack, will release its new album, "Maximalism", on October 21 via Spinefarm Records.
The follow-up to 2014's "Massive Addictive" is described in a press release as "a hyper-modern, metallic beast of a record" containing "12 new tracks that fully live up to the 'bigger, bolder' promise of the title."
"Maximalism" was produced once again by Jacob Hansen (VOLBEAT, EPICA, DELAIN) and mastered by Svante Forsback (RAMMSTEIN, APOCALYPTICA, DRAGONFORCE).
Refusing to be pinned down by genre or convention, AMARANTHE have consistently pursued the less travelled path, blending different sounds and styles to create a signature hybrid approach, and "Maximalism" sees their collective wide-angle vision laid out with greater skill and conviction than ever before.
From the locomotive power of "Faster" and "Fury" through to the more measured drama of "Limitless" and "Endlessly" (a solo tour de force for singer Elize Ryd), this is AMARANTHE ramping up both the energy and the emotion, and generally pushing everything to the max.
Says AMARANTHE lead guitarist Olof Mörck: "'Maximalism' is our manifesto to the world!
"We are genuinely thrilled with the new material, definitely our most diverse collection to date. Our trademark 'bleeding edge' modern metal remains intact, of course, but fused with an even broader range of genres than before…
"There's everything here, including stadium rock, innovative pop and danceable super-hits.
"Expect these tunes to enter your mind on a permanent basis!"
"Maximalism" track listing:
01. Maximize
02. Boomerang
03. That Song
04. 21
05. On The Rocks
06. Limitless
07. Fury
08. Faster
09. Break Down And Cry
10. Supersonic
11. Fireball
12. Endlessly
In support of "Maximalism", AMARANTHE will embark on a headline European tour in October/November, with SONIC SYNDICATE and SMASH INTO PIECES guesting on all shows.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/q86/p960x960/13923419_1477942692231118_8175935203373145005_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on August 11, 2016, 12:17:47 PM
Noice!
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on August 11, 2016, 12:49:15 PM
Awesome! Can't explain why, but Amaranthe is one of those bands that can do basically the same thing album after album and I always dig it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 11, 2016, 12:52:27 PM
Awesome! Can't explain why, but Amaranthe is one of those bands that can do basically the same thing album after album and I always dig it.

It's just fun music so that's kind of how I feel too.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on August 11, 2016, 03:36:51 PM
Waiting for the Predacons to release their album, Terrorism.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Prog Snob on August 11, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
Awesome! Can't explain why, but Amaranthe is one of those bands that can do basically the same thing album after album and I always dig it.

That's pretty much how I see it, too.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on September 22, 2016, 06:21:08 PM
Can't say I enjoy this new song. I don't mind their pop sound. It's part of the reason why I like the band, but this song just isn't that good.

That Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aisXPBhG73M
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on September 22, 2016, 07:06:30 PM
Can't say I enjoy this new song. I don't mind their pop sound. It's part of the reason why I like the band, but this song just isn't that good.

That Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aisXPBhG73M

I agree. Sounds like it is just pop and not that interesting.  I don't have a problem with their typical pop sound at all, but this just misses IMO.  Granted, I bet it will grow a bit on me as I listen, but it is definitely a let down for a new single.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on September 22, 2016, 09:06:01 PM
Can't say I enjoy this new song. I don't mind their pop sound. It's part of the reason why I like the band, but this song just isn't that good.

That Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aisXPBhG73M

I looked for this thread a few days ago to post that, but gave up.

Yea, I had to check a few times to see if they were covering another pop song, since I'm pretty sure I've heard all of those melodies and ideas about 10,000 times already.

Hope the rest of the album is better. That might be the first Amaranthe song I actively didn't like to some degree.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: adace on September 22, 2016, 11:53:59 PM
Yeah, the new song is kinda weak. Hope the rest of the album is better.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Prog Snob on September 23, 2016, 05:26:06 AM
I'm feeling the same as everyone else. It sounds a bit TOO poppy.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on September 30, 2016, 02:52:10 PM
Slow day at work and this came up on my youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuU8IEi5dqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuU8IEi5dqs)

Amaranthine performed live and they let a young girl sing the song.... and she even does the growls  :lol  Really well done and cool of the band.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: ErHaO on October 01, 2016, 04:10:31 AM
New song honestly reminds me of Katy Perry, not even being ironic.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 01, 2016, 04:17:09 AM
I tried listening to That Song again and got bored. Amaranthe isn't supposed to bore me.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on October 03, 2016, 12:06:43 AM
They took it down so I'll have to wait until the video comes out.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 03, 2016, 08:20:24 AM
They took it down so I'll have to wait until the video comes out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrQP-kKB8k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrQP-kKB8k)

Pretty good sounding live recording.  I definitely like it better live with the crowd cheering, but this song is full on pop and mostly not that interesting overall.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on October 04, 2016, 12:33:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR05g0Co7W4

The video is out now and it's not bad.  I think it would have worked better as a 3rd single release once they've done a couple of their signature singles.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on October 04, 2016, 12:48:38 PM
Song grew on me a little on the second listen when I knew what to expect.

I think one thing I noticed was that the "pop" in their music before was very European influenced, while this song has a lot of American pop influence.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 04, 2016, 01:18:47 PM
Song grew on me a little on the second listen when I knew what to expect.

I think one thing I noticed was that the "pop" in their music before was very European influenced, while this song has a lot of American pop influence.

Definitely sounds like American Pop.  I will add that the song has grown on me a bit more as well, but I'm still really hoping that this is not the new direction of the band.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 06, 2016, 02:57:40 PM
Another new song Fury and this song sounds much more like typical Amaranthe.  Pretty heavy and features a lot of Henrik.  I like this a lot more.  It's like the exact opposite of That Song.

https://youtu.be/Jg5_wI9KkEw (https://youtu.be/Jg5_wI9KkEw)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 06, 2016, 03:07:40 PM
Ehhh I don't like this one either.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 06, 2016, 03:10:34 PM
Sounds like Slipknot if they had Rihanna singing the chorus
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 25, 2016, 04:52:59 PM
I guess the single turned everyone off from buying the album... I've given a few listens today.  It's not bad, but after a few listens it would easily be my least favorite of theirs.  There is some good stuff here though.  Some typical Amaranthe and some more poppish songs as well.  If you already didn't like their over produced sound then you wouldn't like this.  I feel like this has reached the point for me where I say the sound is a bit too much at times. 

Having said all of that, I still find the album enjoyable overall.  Boomerang and On the Rocks are pretty addictive.  Endlessly is a pretty nice slower song to end the album.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on October 25, 2016, 06:37:09 PM
I guess the single turned everyone off from buying the album... I've given a few listens today.  It's not bad, but after a few listens it would easily be my least favorite of theirs.  There is some good stuff here though.  Some typical Amaranthe and some more poppish songs as well.  If you already didn't like their over produced sound then you wouldn't like this.  I feel like this has reached the point for me where I say the sound is a bit too much at times. 

Having said all of that, I still find the album enjoyable overall.  Boomerang and On the Rocks are pretty addictive.  Endlessly is a pretty nice slower song to end the album.

I bought it, just forgot to listen to it haha. I'll get to it soon. But that's pretty much exactly what I expected.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 25, 2016, 07:19:31 PM
The first two tracks are good. Songs like Supersonic and That Song are not my cup of tea. It seems by going more pop, they actually hurt their sound. I actually wouldn't mind hearing a pop album from Elize because I love her voice, but if this is what it might sound like, I'll pass. Plus, the screaming vocals need to go now. I could tolerate them on the other albums, but now they just make no sense, and the shtick is old.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 26, 2016, 06:59:42 AM
After I wrote that post last night I gave it another listen and then a listen on my way into work today.  It's their shortest album, but I do think it is pretty good overall, just a bit more poppy.

That Song and Limitless sound like they could be legit american pop songs and honestly sound familiar (someone on youtube said That Song was similar to a Rhianna song and Limitless sounds like something I could have heard on pop radio).
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: NunoTenniscourt on October 26, 2016, 02:50:10 PM

I just saw the video for "That Song". What the FUCK was that?!?!

I didn't make it all the way to the end to see if the words "Just Kidding!" appeared out of nowhere.

Did they?
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 26, 2016, 02:55:25 PM
No, they are pretty serious about it I believe.

I actually find the song fairly enjoyable now that the shock of it being so poppy has passed, but it's far from being a highlight on the album.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on October 26, 2016, 05:07:06 PM
No, they are pretty serious about it I believe.

I actually find the song fairly enjoyable now that the shock of it being so poppy has passed, but it's far from being a highlight on the album.


Yup. Same here. Liking the album but this feels like the last time they can get away with the typical amaranthe sound. They either need to break up,  take a long break or do something completely different and artsy (which risks failing).
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on November 03, 2016, 08:10:49 AM
So the album is pretty solid, but I would still rate it the worst of the 4.

Maximize and Break Down and Cry are probably my two favorites followed by Boomerang (damn that song is so catchy).

What I noticed is that the few shows they have been playing, Jake E isn't with them.  It's Adam from Smash into Pieces again (he toured with them in place of Jake E the last round in the US).  I'm starting to wonder if he is on his way out of the band or something.  The reasoning for missing the US tour was due to his daughter's birth.  Fair response.  But I saw on his facebook that he posted he is working on a movie in Boston... so who doesn't tour the shows following a release of the new album?  Pretty disappointing from a fan's perspective if you ask me. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LCArenas on November 07, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
I wasn't really surprised by the poppyness of 'That Song'. Given that they've always included Pop (Or at least, Melodic) elements to their previous albums, I knew they'd do a full-on pop single sooner or later... And it's not really bad either, typical "I love Rock and Roll" type of song. I actually think it'd fit more on an Elyze solo album, but it is what it is. Haven't heard the rest of the album, I'll give it a check
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on November 17, 2016, 02:10:39 PM
So song rankings for me:

Maximize
Break Down and Cry
Boomerang
On the Rocks
21
That Song
Endlessly
Fireball
Faster
Fury
Supersonic
Limitless

And album rankings:

Massive Addictive
The Nexus
Amaranthe
Maximalism
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on November 17, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
I'm really on the fence about getting Maximalism.  I find "That Song" just too Top40 and reading/trusting people here leads me to be worried about the rest of it.  :(
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on November 17, 2016, 08:30:44 PM
I'm really on the fence about getting Maximalism.  I find "That Song" just too Top40 and reading/trusting people here leads me to be worried about the rest of it.  :(

Oh the rest of it sounds nothing like That Song. There is some of their heaviest stuff on this album.

I really liked the album, but like I said, it's the last "typical" Amaranthe album I feel like I can defend.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on November 18, 2016, 07:36:05 AM
Yea I would say That Song and Limitless are the only tracks that are top40ish sounding and the rest is typical Amaranthe, but it's just not as top notch as their other albums IMO.  The rest of those tracks are starting to sound too "samey" lol to the rest of their catalog.  I rated it my least favorite, but there is definitely some good stuff on this album worth checking out if you are a fan of the band. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Christeen on December 03, 2016, 11:28:24 PM
My girlfriend just introduced them to me with The Nexus and I was absolutely blown away
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Grappler on February 08, 2017, 09:49:05 AM
Jake E. Officially Departs Amaranthe

https://bravewords.com/news/exclusive-amaranthe-vocalist-jake-e-makes-departure-official-i-can-t-stand-on-stage-not-believing-in-what-i-m-doing

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Since the October 2016 release of Amaranthe's fourth album, Maximalism, vocalist and co-founder Jake E. has been conspicuous in his absence from the touring trail and in the press. The band's triple vocalist attack remained intact for the band's 2016 European tour, however, thanks to Smash Into Pieces singer Chris Adams, who had stepped in for Jake on previous tours when he was honouring other commitments. In November 2016, Jake issued a statement hinting that he had run out of steam, announcing that he was taking a break from the band for an unknown amount of time. In an exclusive interview with BraveWords, Jake makes his departure from Amaranthe official and final. Read on...

"Me and Olof (Mörck / guitars) started the band seven or eight years ago, and everything took off in a way we couldn't have imagined," Jake begins. "Amaranthe became a huge success and we toured the world, and we had a lot of fun doing that. The first two albums (self-titled debut and The Nexus) were exactly what I wanted the band to sound like; a mix between those Soilwork-like guitars and melodic Bon Jovi-type vocals combined with a female voice. Different elements combined, but the main thing in the music was the metal base. On the Massive Addictive album it started to change into something else that I didn't really control, and you can hear the songs that I was more involved in working on are very metal. When we started working on the Maximalism album I found that it wasn't the Amaranthe I had helped create at the start. It wasn't my vision at all and I realized that I had to be true to myself. That was back in March 2016. I love to tour, I love the fans, but I felt that if I wasn't true to myself."

"My idea from the beginning is that we were supposed to be six people in a band striving for the same goal. Nobody had ever seen three singers in a metal band in that formation before, and that was my whole selling point for Amaranthe. We should be marketed as a band with three singers and it worked on the first two albums, but I felt that my place both on the albums and live was reduced; I felt like I was superfluous."

Truth be told, it becomes clear upon repeated listens to the Maximalism album that, by accident or design, Jake does indeed play a reduced role in the songs compared to Amaranthe's previous three records. More often than not he can be heard harmonizing rather than offering stand-alone performances.

"I know my potential as a singer and a songwriter, but over the last couple years I felt I wasn't reaching that potential," says Jake. "You can hardly hear me on the new Amaranthe album. I have a small part here and a small part there, so I started to feel more like a backing singer. I'm 35 years old, and I decided I have to continue with music that makes me happy. Meeting the fans makes me happy and touring is the best thing I've ever done, but I can't stand on stage not believing in what I'm doing. That's the main reason I left Amaranthe."


I didn't even buy the last record - they're moving a little too far into pop music territory for me, though there are some heavier songs, from the bits that I've heard.   I agree with Jake's statement completely though - the original element of the band was heavy music with three singers, and it seems to have strayed from that, whether it's the music, or Jake's role, or both.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on February 08, 2017, 09:53:40 AM
Sad, but not surprising. I immediately noticed his reduced role on the newest album, even though I mostly like it.

I honestly think they should call it a day at this point. Let Elize go do her own thing, and the other guys can all go do other things too.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on February 08, 2017, 09:57:47 AM
Figured this was going to happen given his absences lately.

He definitely is the lesser of the 3 singers on Maximalism and I think one of the best songs on that album, Break Down and Cry, is the one song that features him the most.  I like his voice a lot and I like it even better when it harmonized with Elize. 

Having said that.  I think some of that statement is BS.  The first time I saw Amaranthe live (after the release of The Nexus) he visibly looked like he didn't want to be there.  My friend and I both concluced after the concert that he must have been sick or he must not like touring or something.  His attitude was very noticeable.  I had the same reaction seeing them the next two times.  He was very visibly uninterested.  Like I said, this was before Massive Addictive.  I also don't think their music has geared too far from what they initially were, sure they have more poppy songs, but the core of Maximalism isn't different than the rest of their catalogue (I just think it's getting a bit stale but they released a new music video today for Boomerang which is an awesome song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjdm5tJ5NiA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wjdm5tJ5NiA)). 

Now, if the band is going to continue, I hope Adam doesn't replace him because I am not sure I am a big fan of his voice.  But I guess we shall see.  I have a ticket to see them in NJ soon.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on February 08, 2017, 10:02:43 AM
I'm listening Maximalism for the first time. So far, not as metal as the previews releases.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on February 09, 2017, 12:51:38 AM
I finally got Maximalism and everything Jake said here fits perfectly and sounds exactly how I would have wanted it to sound if I were saying it.  It's very validating to read his words and makes total sense.

I'm not impressed with Maximalism at all except for "Endlessly" which Elize should not have belted it starting the second time but saved it for the finale.  Who knows what's down the road but Maximalism is just no good.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on March 13, 2017, 07:20:16 AM
I thought Amaranthe was really good this past weekend in NJ.  There was no one there though, it was odd.  My 5th time seeing them and the crowds have gotten smaller to the point that it was dead.  Pretty sad, but the band was great and still performed well.

Anyway, it seems Jake E has a new band https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-in-flames-amaranthe-members-join-forces-in-cyhra/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-in-flames-amaranthe-members-join-forces-in-cyhra/)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on July 01, 2017, 10:10:41 AM
From Amaranthe's twitter (although the FB link doesn't work for me)
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We are super stoked to announce that the awesome Nils Molin will be officially part of the Amaranthe family from... https://fb.me/80fLV0EZw
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 20, 2017, 07:11:18 AM
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Our ex-vocalist JAKE E's new band Cyhra released their debut album "Letters to Myself" today. We send our congratulations to him and his band mates and wish them all the best! You can stream the album from the below link.

https://open.spotify.com/album/4N85L88CanUTGEQ3Z9UBau (https://open.spotify.com/album/4N85L88CanUTGEQ3Z9UBau)

^ from Amaranthe's facebook

I almost forget about how much I liked their single.  Got to give this a listen too (along with more Sons of Apollo, and VUUR, wow what a day for music releases).
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on August 11, 2018, 10:08:44 PM
New Song:

365
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDVycjDLx4Y


Not bad, but nothing new. Better than anything on their last album though. Elize is fucking gorgeous.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 14, 2018, 07:18:47 AM
Im not in love with it, but it's not bad.  I do like the new singer so far though.  I miss Jake E, but Nils seems pretty solid.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on August 15, 2018, 10:55:37 PM
No, sir, I don't like it.

First three albums are awesome.  I think Massive Addictive had a perfect blend of everything to get their "sound" and is probably my favourite of the first three but not by much.

Maximalism is awful and this new track sounds like they're sticking with this format.  I'm glad Jake made the right decision and left since Amaranthe was going down a path away from what got them success in the first place.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on August 16, 2018, 07:03:14 AM
First three albums are awesome.  I think Massive Addictive had a perfect blend of everything to get their "sound" and is probably my favourite of the first three but not by much.

Maximalism is awful and this new track sounds like they're sticking with this format.  I'm glad Jake made the right decision and left since Amaranthe was going down a path away from what got them success in the first place.

Got to sadly agree with this.  Massive Addictive is probably my favorite of theirs and maybe has been their peak.  I'd say this song isn't as bad as a lot of Maximalism though, so maybe there's some hope.  I feel like they had to notice the large decline in fan base after the last release.  I mean, they only toured the US once for the album (not twice like they had been doing) and the show I went to was attended by maybe 50 people.  They lost a founding member of the band.  They need to come out with a good album to stay relevant IMO.  This song didn't give me hope for that, but I didn't think it was bad enough to just give up on them, yet.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on August 16, 2018, 12:09:39 PM
Massive Addictive was great. Nothing new, but still enjoyable songs. Granted I haven't listened to it in ages. This new song didn't wow me, but it has a good hook. It does make me wish Elize would just go solo, because I love her voice, and I wouldn't mind a pop album from her. Amaranthe is basically a modern day AC/DC, and unfortunately I don't think they have any plans on changing that. If they decided to ditch the growler (something I've wanted them to do since day 1) and went full on poppity poppity pop pop metal, as long as the songs were catchy, I'd still listen to them. I don't know what happened with Maximalism, maybe they weren't inspired and were going through the motions. I guess one can argue they were going through the motions since the debut... I'm rambling at this point. As long as it's catchy I'll listen to it. That's why Taylor Swift's 1989 was such a surprised to me, because I didn't care for her at all. Red is pretty good too. I was hoping for a great follow up to 1989, but she lost me big time again.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 18, 2018, 05:54:56 PM
Crap, crap, mega crap...
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on October 18, 2018, 05:56:05 PM
Crap, crap, mega crap...

Did it come out already? I thought the new songs (that I heard on youtube) are cool, but basically no progression in the slightest bit. Is the rest of the album bad?
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on October 18, 2018, 06:20:54 PM
Crap, crap, mega crap...

Did it come out already? I thought the new songs (that I heard on youtube) are cool, but basically no progression in the slightest bit. Is the rest of the album bad?

It's out to hooligans like me. No progression in the slightest bit sums up this album perfectly. I love Elize's voice, and there are some really catchy choruses, but it's nothing you haven't already heard on the last 4 albums. The first song, The Score is really the only song that left an impression (outside the singles), but I forgot what it sounded like already. 365 is alright, but it's been slightly ruined for me once it was pointed out that the verse melodies are ripped from one of Taylor Swift's awful new songs. The other song, Inferno I noticed the Ed Sheeran rip off on my own. That song is bad regardless.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 18, 2018, 08:11:25 PM
I'll check it out, but my expectations are low and reading that keeps it there.  The singles didn't even get the juices flowing so if those are the better tracks... geeze
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on October 18, 2018, 10:23:24 PM
Crap, crap, mega crap...

Yep.

Jake did the right thing leaving and stated that this is the exact reason he wanted out.  I just wish I liked his new stuff.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Anguyen92 on October 19, 2018, 12:07:50 AM
Dang it all, people.  What did you guys do to drag me into listening to this?  This sounds like you take all the tropes of bad pop-like metal albums and it's all blended into one album.  The female vocals is just too poppy for me to bear and not in a good way.  Maybe this album may get better as it progresses along?
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Polarbear on October 19, 2018, 12:44:25 AM
The Amaranthe shtick worked on the first couple of album's, but it has really grown old. How many albums they have made, 5 or 6? They could have been a great band if they had matured a few albums into their career, and expanded their sound.

As it stands, they seem to be happy doing the same album over and over again. And I'll happily not listen to their music.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Grappler on October 19, 2018, 08:26:21 AM
Yeah, nothing new here.  A few decent songs and the rest is standard Amaranthe - poppy songs, a lot of Elize.  One big heavy song to for the growler (Henrik?) to be featured.  And his vocals are usually very rapid fire and samey throughout the last few albums - it would be nice if they didn't cram so much of his vocals into short bursts.  The first two to three albums are killer, and then they just fell into churning out the same old stuff over and over.

I like the Cyhra album a lot more than this disc. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 19, 2018, 10:01:14 AM
Yea, the first three albums got better each time, then it peaked.  Now it's just going down hill.  I also like Cyhra's album a lot more than anything Amaranthe has done recently.  Also Cyhra is already working on a second album, way more anticipated for that.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on November 18, 2018, 02:54:09 PM
Finally gave the new album a listen, and maybe my expectations were just low but I actually like it.  Feel like it's definitely better than Maximalism although I also feel like it's typical Amaranthe.  I do like Nils too, Jake E is great but Nils is a solid replacement and his voice adds a different feel so it feels more fresh although it's really nothing different.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on November 18, 2018, 03:04:59 PM
I liked Maximalism or whatever. I've heard a few of the new songs on Pandora, and they all just sounded completely uninspired. Not bad, just.......straight out of the factory. So I'm skipping this one, and I assume all future albums given that the band sees no point in changing things up.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: MirrorMask on November 19, 2018, 01:22:36 AM
I saw them opening for Powerwolf. Ugh. It was painful to sit through that set  :lol

At least some people seemed to be into it so good for them, but all the songs sounded the same to me. Same industrial / dance-y rhytm, looooots of pre-recorded music, and while I admit one or two songs had the occasional catchy chorus, it was one bore after the other.

Really, what I enjoyed the most of their concert was when the bass player took off his shirt urging other people to do so.... and I'm straight, mind you.  :D
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on January 26, 2019, 09:30:02 AM
So I am absolutely loving Helix, I think it's one of their best albums.  Yup, it sounds just like Amaranthe but it's overall well done and has a few stand out tracks that are among their best IMO.  I'd say this is very similar to Massive Addictive which I think is their best album.  Nils is fantastic as well, really proves he belongs here.  Anyway, for fun since I think I'm the only one hear who even digs this band still, song rankings from best to least best:

Breakthrough Starshot
Countdown
Dream
Helix
Momentum
My Haven
The Score
Unified
GG6
365
Inferno
Iconic
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on January 03, 2020, 08:03:15 AM
Wow almost a year and no Amaranthe chat, I guess it just kind of shows they have faded a bit.  But they are returning to the US this summer with Battle Beast and working on a new album for release later this year.

However, they are opening for Sabaton in Europe soon and just released a cover of Sabaton's recent single 82nd All The Way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhepwtKR5lg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhepwtKR5lg)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Grappler on January 03, 2020, 08:32:23 AM
I think I'm just Amaranthe'd out.  I may decide to see their tour on the day of the show if I'm interested, since Battle Beast is opening, and it would be fun to see them live.

That is a fun Sabaton cover at least.  Even with their Powerwolf cover though, I'd rather listen to the original than their version of it.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on January 03, 2020, 08:43:42 AM
I like Amaranthe a lot but if they’re fading, that’s likely because they’ve been putting out the same album like 5 times.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on June 26, 2020, 02:40:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A7BPXEBh1Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A7BPXEBh1Q)

New single Viral

I like it, but it's Amaranthe. Music video is cool
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on June 27, 2020, 12:18:19 PM
Yep, that's Amaranthe alright... I guess I'm done with this band. I didn't like the last album. Was Massive Addictive 2 or 3 albums ago? That album is their best, but fuck all their shit sounds the same! AC/DC should sue them for gimmick infringement.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on June 27, 2020, 12:19:54 PM
Bridge was cool.

Rest is just Amaranthe by numbers. Which is apparently what sells.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 12, 2020, 10:20:21 AM
Finally got the album over the weekend.  Only gave it a few listens and well... it's not impressive.  For one, where the fuck did Nils go?  Seems like he's not used as much as last album and he was one of the reasons I had some new enjoyment out of them after what I thought might have buried them (when Jake E left after releasing their worst album, Maximalism). 

But really, the issue is the same... as the music is all the same.  And sadly, every time they try to create a new melody or something that sounds different, it just doesn't work well. 

Boom! may be the cringiest Amaranthe song.

Production is not that great, specifically, the guitar is buried in the mix which is odd. 

If you like everything the band has done, you'll probably still like this, but I'd say after a couple listens this is probably just only better than Maximalism and a big drop down from Helix which I really enjoyed (even though it sounds the same, at least the songs were good there).  It's not a terrible listen, but it's not a memorable one either. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: PetFish on October 12, 2020, 07:51:50 PM
I'm pretty much over them since Jake left.  He was right about the direction they were headed.  What a bummer and LOL at them making the same album 5 times cuz it's true.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on October 16, 2020, 05:44:52 PM
Well, as much as I kind of shat on the new album, it's typical Amaranthe at the end of the day so it does have its moments of stuff that I enjoy.

I decided to make a lyric video of The Game put to Call of Duty gameplay (specifically, using the origin shotgun) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnpIJ6BS7g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnpIJ6BS7g)

but also, since this just came on my youtube playlist, this is actually really cool.  Earlier in the year, the did a cover of Sabaton's 82nd All the Way to promote their tour together and Sabaton released this live video of them performing the song with Amaranthe and it's really awesome.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnpIJ6BS7g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPnpIJ6BS7g)
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on June 08, 2022, 10:57:07 AM
Well, there goes another singer....

from Amaranthe's facebook:

Quote
After 9 years and four albums together, Henrik "GG6" Englund Wilhelmson has now chosen to end his journey with AMARANTHE.
Commented Henrik:
"I'm sorry to say that i got some sad news for ya'll!
I will no longer be a part of Amaranthe. After 2 years at home caused by corona, something hit me. I freakin loved being at home with my family and started to dream about doing something else. Something more important and also to NOT spend more time away from my kids. For many reasons i also slowly stopped enjoying life on the road with Amaranthe. It became more of a job and something i pushed myself to do. Not like back in the days when i had some serious fun all the time! I want to thank all my fans for your support over the years and i promise ill be back with killer 'GG6' stuff in the future when the mood and creativity finds it way back to me!
Cheers n love and good luck to Amaranthe in the future.
/ Henrik GG6 Englund"
Commented Amaranthe:
"We fully respect and understand Henrik's decision, and we wish him all the best on his future adventures. Henrik is truly one of the world's foremost growlers, as anyone who have seen him rip through our songs live knows, and we can't wait to see what he comes up with next! Keep your eyes peeled to his socials to stay up to date with forthcoming GG6 madness!
This summer’s shows will be performed by two special guests, stay tuned!
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 08, 2022, 11:37:58 AM
I imagine for some people the variety is part of the appeal, but the only vocalist they've had that I've really liked is Elize.  Wilhelmsson's rap-growling style never really worked for me, and though he wasn't amazing either, Solvestrom was better.  Never cared for Lundberg at all, and Molin is better, but still doesn't do much for me.  Deadlock never got credit for doing a version of their sound earlier and better.  And if you really liked the dual cleans plus growls approach, "Dying Breed" had a Christian Alvestam guest appearance that was killer. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on June 08, 2022, 11:41:37 AM
I always thought he was a solid growler and same with Solvestrom. 

I get it that the vocals are really mostly about Elize and the other two are more support vocals that can be interchanged, but I got to image that going through so many singers is going to take a toll on the band.  They haven't toured the US in so long and that last tour seemed like a failure (no one was at the NJ show I went to).  I just can't help but think this band has really hit a wall.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 08, 2022, 12:05:21 PM
Well, I imagine they're much bigger overseas.  American audiences have never gotten into this sort of thing.  They have pretty high Spotify numbers though.  But yeah, the vocal turnover is becoming like a reverse Nightwish, sort of Xandria, Visions of Atlantis situation. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on June 08, 2022, 12:26:26 PM
I've seen them 5 tiimes in the US, the last time was the worst turn out by far.  They were touring here very often in the beginning of the band and like I said, haven't come back in 5 years now.  I know the pandemic plays a role in that, but they didn't have a tour set to come back and they still dont have one set to come back even though they released a new album in 2020.  They've basically released two albums since their last tour of the US.  I really think that last tour set them back and made them question if they could headline in the US.  I do enjoy them, and would like to see them with Nils.  Maybe coming back as a support act is more of an option.  Who knows.  Just sucks because I used to like them a lot and they've fallen off quite a bit from my view. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on June 08, 2022, 12:31:50 PM
I've seen them 5 tiimes in the US, the last time was the worst turn out by far.  They were touring here very often in the beginning of the band and like I said, haven't come back in 5 years now.  I know the pandemic plays a role in that, but they didn't have a tour set to come back and they still dont have one set to come back even though they released a new album in 2020.  They've basically released two albums since their last tour of the US.  I really think that last tour set them back and made them question if they could headline in the US.  I do enjoy them, and would like to see them with Nils.  Maybe coming back as a support act is more of an option.  Who knows.  Just sucks because I used to like them a lot and they've fallen off quite a bit from my view.

Similar, minus seeing them live. I think, for me, it's because they are not really progressing their sound much at all. There's only so many times I'm going to buy a VERY similar album from them.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on June 08, 2022, 12:37:07 PM
Yeah, that's probably a bigger issue than the changing band members.  It all, in my mind, comes down to how big of a failure Maximilism was.  That album was just rehashed songs that were worse than any of the ones that came before it.  Then Jake E left without ever performing those songs.  And that tour was an utter failure in my mind (from 2017 that I keep referencing).  I do think Helix and Manifest were better albums, but didn't evolve the style or sound at all so likely didn't grab any new fans. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 08, 2022, 01:01:08 PM
Evolving your style isn't always good, sometime it's best to stick to what you do best if it's working.  In Flames keeps evolving, getting worse and worse.  Amorphis has been releasing basically the same album for over a decade and a half now, but it's a great album, so it still works. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Zook on September 27, 2023, 07:10:54 PM
Amaranthe released a new song yesterday. I don't need to post a link because you've heard it 100 times already.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on September 27, 2023, 07:21:07 PM
I've had trouble figuring out why it is that I like but don't love Amaranthe.  I think part of it may be that it never feels like their songs have any room to breathe.  In order to accommodate all three vocalists, each gets a few seconds at a time, but not often enough is there time for more immersion into the style of each.  Somehow the formula still worked best for me on their debut, even though I never liked Jake's vocals.  I don't mind the metal + pop approach, I don't need them to be a prog rock band, but they're such a slave to the 3-4 minute song format that it's a little frustrating. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Grappler on September 28, 2023, 06:54:33 AM
My enjoyment of them has waned over the last 3-5 years.  The last album I really dug was Massive Addictive in 2014.  I'll check out a new album, but they won't ever be as good as those first 2-3 albums. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on September 28, 2023, 07:04:29 AM
My enjoyment of them has waned over the last 3-5 years.  The last album I really dug was Massive Addictive in 2014.  I'll check out a new album, but they won't ever be as good as those first 2-3 albums.

Indeed. They just kind of never really challenged themselves past a certain point and almost any of their songs can be on almost any of their albums. I can put on any of the newer songs and enjoy them, but they work better as singles or part of a playlist, since listening to a whole album of theirs these days just feels repetitive.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on September 28, 2023, 08:00:04 AM
My enjoyment of them has waned over the last 3-5 years.  The last album I really dug was Massive Addictive in 2014.  I'll check out a new album, but they won't ever be as good as those first 2-3 albums.

I thought their last two were OK albums, but yeah, my interest has definitely waned basically album after album.

New song is OK. Just the same thing again, as previously stated.

I do plan on seeing them with Dragonforce in a month or two. They haven't toured the US in forever and I think it's better for them to come out as an opener, not headliner after no one went to their headline show last tour (and likely the reason for not coming back for so long).  It is kind of sad to see this band have a lot more interest 10 years ago and now it seems no one cares. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Adami on September 28, 2023, 09:02:47 AM
My enjoyment of them has waned over the last 3-5 years.  The last album I really dug was Massive Addictive in 2014.  I'll check out a new album, but they won't ever be as good as those first 2-3 albums.

I thought their last two were OK albums, but yeah, my interest has definitely waned basically album after album.

New song is OK. Just the same thing again, as previously stated.

I do plan on seeing them with Dragonforce in a month or two. They haven't toured the US in forever and I think it's better for them to come out as an opener, not headliner after no one went to their headline show last tour (and likely the reason for not coming back for so long).  It is kind of sad to see this band have a lot more interest 10 years ago and now it seems no one cares.

Oh yea. I might be getting bored with their student output, but I'm sure they'd be a blast live.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on September 28, 2023, 05:28:55 PM
My enjoyment of them has waned over the last 3-5 years.  The last album I really dug was Massive Addictive in 2014.  I'll check out a new album, but they won't ever be as good as those first 2-3 albums.

Indeed. They just kind of never really challenged themselves past a certain point and almost any of their songs can be on almost any of their albums. I can put on any of the newer songs and enjoy them, but they work better as singles or part of a playlist, since listening to a whole album of theirs these days just feels repetitive.

I can kind of agree with the overall sentiment, they're definitely a band I far more often go back to specific tracks than entire albums, but I do feel their style has evolved over time.  Their debut feels like an even poppier evolution of the 00s electronic and clean vocal-oriented melodeath and melodic metalcore bands, but they've added djentier, hip-hop, and other more modern elements to their sound on later albums that I'm not sure would fit on the first couple.  Sometimes it works well, sometimes a bit less so. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2024, 09:14:52 AM
Their new album The Catalyst came out last week.  Gave it a couple listens and well, I feel like I say this for every Amaranthe release....it's an Amaranthe album and it's just OK.  The new harsh vocalists sounds very similar to the previous.  Most songs have the exact same melodies as previous songs and just don't hit the mark of being more memorable than the past.  There may be a few tracks I did enjoy.  It's not the worse thing, if you like the band then you may like it. I'm not sure how often I'll go back to this though, but I'll give it a few more listens for sure.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: Grappler on March 01, 2024, 10:10:03 AM
I liked it better than the last couple of albums - it felt more like the first 2-3 records, which are my favorite.  But I'm kind of "over" them right now and have been since Jake left the band. 
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: cramx3 on March 01, 2024, 10:13:25 AM
I liked it better than the last couple of albums - it felt more like the first 2-3 records, which are my favorite.  But I'm kind of "over" them right now and have been since Jake left the band.

I felt that way about Manifest in that I liked it more than the previous and it felt more like a return to their older sound.  This seems more in line with the albums that came before it.  I dont know, it's not bad, but it's not a great album by any means.
Title: Re: Amaranthe
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on March 04, 2024, 08:39:10 AM
I liked it better than the last couple of albums - it felt more like the first 2-3 records, which are my favorite.  But I'm kind of "over" them right now and have been since Jake left the band. 

The weird thing for me is that I don't really care for Jake as a vocalist, either with them or with CyHra.  I much prefer Nils now.  But none of their albums after the first two have quite clicked with me, and the second one, just barely.  I like them, but I don't really love them, and that continues to be true on this one.