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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Ouda on July 19, 2009, 03:32:48 PM
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K I'm almost 93% sure you guys don't have a System of a Down thread, so imma go ahead and start it. Discuss the silliness/political-ness/rockiness that is SOAD.
Oh yeah, to start off, BEST LYRICS of some of there songs:
Chic N' Stu:
Go to the refrigerator....
doors closed.....
lights are out....
BOY ITS GETTING HOT!!!!
Bounce:
BOUNCE
pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo
JUMP
pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo pogo
Sugar:
You know my girl she lashes out at me sometimes
and i just FUKIN KICK HER IN THE
oooo baaaby........she's okay
DISCUSS!
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Big fan. And by fan I mean poser who only has Mezmorize, Hypnotize, and Toxicity. From other threads on them in the past, I get the feeling they've got a lot of unreleased material?
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Big fan. And by fan I mean poser who only has Mezmorize, Hypnotize, and Toxicity. From other threads on them in the past, I get the feeling they've got a lot of unreleased material?
Dude get Steal this Album. It's not too be taking seriously. they have a hardcore song about pizza, for god's sake. But it's fun to listen to lyric wise and music wise.
Plus you don't seem like a poser as you're only missing one album.
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Really good band. Their debut album is good but very overrated, but everything since has been mostly top-notch!
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Really good band. Their debut album is good but very overrated, but everything since has been mostly top-notch!
Amen
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I love this band, but I hate their debut.
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Big fan. And by fan I mean poser who only has Mezmorize, Hypnotize, and Toxicity. From other threads on them in the past, I get the feeling they've got a lot of unreleased material?
Dude get Steal this Album. It's not too be taking seriously. they have a hardcore song about pizza, for god's sake. But it's fun to listen to lyric wise and music wise.
Plus you don't seem like a poser as you're only missing one album.
its not about pizza. listen again.
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Big fan. And by fan I mean poser who only has Mezmorize, Hypnotize, and Toxicity. From other threads on them in the past, I get the feeling they've got a lot of unreleased material?
Dude get Steal this Album. It's not too be taking seriously. they have a hardcore song about pizza, for god's sake. But it's fun to listen to lyric wise and music wise.
Plus you don't seem like a poser as you're only missing one album.
its not about pizza. listen again.
I know it's not just about pizza, there's all sort's of metaphors in there about advertising, but the actual lyrics talk about pizza. Pretty good stuff
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Ick!
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Ick!
Was that really necessary? if you don't like the band you don't have to come onto the thread
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Disooooordaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Serj is a legend.
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Disooooordaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Serj is a legend.
Pretty sexy name as well. I mean he has the word Tank in his last name
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I used to be a huge SOAD fanboy. No lie, right before it was DT, SOAD had my attention.
I love the debut, Toxicity, Steal This Album!, Mezmerize, and Hypnotize.
All of their unreleased stuff/side work is brilliant, too, such as:
Friik!!
Honey
Cherry
Temper
Storaged
Marmalade
Johnny
Forever
Blue
Patterns (Serj with Iommi)
Shame (SOAD with Wu-Tang)
Dam
Their cover of Snowblind
I may be missing some off the top of my head.
Yep. Favorite songs inlcude Chop Suey!, Aerials (see avatar for the beginning shot of the music video), Innervision, Hypnotize, and Marmalade. I don't listen to them very much at all anymore, though.
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Cool band, though not the best live. Serj Tankian's Elect the Dead is pretty sweet too. I believe he's got a live DVD with an orchestra (like DT did) coming out sometime this year.
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I believe he's got a live DVD with an orchestra (like DT did)
And Metallica, and KISS, and Deep Purple, and The Scorpions, and Within Temptation...
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Yep. Favorite songs inlcude Chop Suey!, Aerials (see avatar for the beginning shot of the music video), Innervision, Hypnotize, and Marmalade. I don't listen to them very much at all anymore, though.
So that is where your avatar is from!
I thought it looked like a combination of a Tuscan hut and a tipi.
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K I'm almost 93% sure you guys don't have a System of a Down thread, so imma go ahead and start it. Discuss the silliness/political-ness/rockiness that is SOAD.
Oh yeah, to start off, BEST LYRICS of some of there songs:
Chic N' Stu:
Go to the refrigerator....
doors closed.....
lights are out....
BOY ITS GETTING HOT!!!!
I always thought he was saying "Butter's getting hard"...am I wrong on this?
Anyway, great band, too bad about the hiatus. Scars on Broadway is nothing in comparison, and Serj by himself just isn't the same.
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Incredible band, and easily one of the reasons I love metal. Toxicity is one of the best moder albums I've ever listened to.
PSYCHO! GROUPIE! COCAINE! CRAZY!
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I used to be a huge SOAD fanboy. No lie, right before it was DT, SOAD had my attention.
Me too :metal
Serj still has one of the greatest metal voices I've ever heard, he really makes the band for me. Naturally I love his solo material as well.
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When Angels deserve to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee
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K I'm almost 93% sure you guys don't have a System of a Down thread, so imma go ahead and start it. Discuss the silliness/political-ness/rockiness that is SOAD.
Oh yeah, to start off, BEST LYRICS of some of there songs:
Chic N' Stu:
Go to the refrigerator....
doors closed.....
lights are out....
BOY ITS GETTING HOT!!!!
I always thought he was saying "Butter's getting hard"...am I wrong on this?
It's System of a Down, if you don't know what the lyrics are for sure, they could be absolutely anything. :lol
I personally have no idea.
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My friend made me listen to SOAD almost EVERY DAY at school, so I eventually grew to like them :lol
BTW has anyone heard Bucketheads album Enter the Chicken? That album features Serj quite heavily (https://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/Edan1266/metal-tard.gif)
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K I'm almost 93% sure you guys don't have a System of a Down thread, so imma go ahead and start it. Discuss the silliness/political-ness/rockiness that is SOAD.
Oh yeah, to start off, BEST LYRICS of some of there songs:
Chic N' Stu:
Go to the refrigerator....
doors closed.....
lights are out....
BOY ITS GETTING HOT!!!!
I always thought he was saying "Butter's getting hard"...am I wrong on this?
I checked and its butter's getting hot, so we're both sorta right.
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SOAD was my fav band up until DT, and they're still my fav lyrically.
I mean, DT have some good lyrics, but SOAD lyrics just transcend everything else in every way possible (imagery - 'see the land, women chant, as they fly up to the sun', 'when they speak, we can peek through the windows of their mouth', politics, humour - just listen to Johnny, and I love the metaphors - tankians solo album is best for these)
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SOAD was my fav band up until DT, and they're still my fav lyrically.
I mean, DT have some good lyrics, but SOAD lyrics just transcend everything else in every way possible (imagery - 'see the land, women chant, as they fly up to the sun', 'when they speak, we can peek through the windows of their mouth', politics, humour - just listen to Johnny, and I love the metaphors - tankians solo album is best for these)
Pretty good sum up of SOAD's qualities.
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My friend made me listen to SOAD almost EVERY DAY at school, so I eventually grew to like them :lol
BTW has anyone heard Bucketheads album Enter the Chicken? That album features Serj quite heavily (https://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/Edan1266/metal-tard.gif)
They're supposed to be working on a followup sometime soon.
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(https://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb243/Edan1266/metal-tard.gif)
Awesome.
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Love SOAD, just not every album. Their earlier stuff is fantastic. From the debut to Toxicity I listen to a lot, but I really dislike the lyrics in Hypnotize/Mezmerize.
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They will get back together at some point all bands reunite at some point in time. my album ranking
Hypnotize
Mezmerize
Toxicity
Steal this album
System of a down.
some of their best songs are ,sad statue,deer dance,holy mountains,tentative,attack,aerials. i dont know why everyone loves cigaro so much
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Ick!
lol
also, @OP Of all of the fantastic lyrics you could have included itt, you pick those?
SOAD are a good band who made 1 fantastic record (toxicity), 2 really good records (steal this album, toxicity), one pretty good record (debut), and one horrendous
record (hypnotize)
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also, @OP Of all of the fantastic lyrics you could have included itt, you pick those?
(hypnotize)
I included them, because they're silly. I know that SOAD has way more meaningful lyrics from other songs, but those always put a smile on my face.
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SOAD is one of my all time favorite bands. The final chorus in Question with the galloping riff and Serj's vocals, AH it's amazing.
Oh and there's nothing better than blasting BYOB in your car at 2 in the morning with the bass booster on full. :metal :metal
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Yep. Favorite songs inlcude Chop Suey!, Aerials (see avatar for the beginning shot of the music video), Innervision, Hypnotize, and Marmalade. I don't listen to them very much at all anymore, though.
So that is where your avatar is from!
I thought it looked like a combination of a Tuscan hut and a tipi.
Thats what I thought!
Lol thats the Star Wars nerd inside me thinking...
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I've loved these guys for ages - one of the truely great mainstream metal bands.
Album ranking:
Steal this Album!
Toxicity
Mesmerise
Hypnotize
Self-titled
Toxicity and STA! are just... brilliant. Serj has a very unique voice and I wish they would get back together :(
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Serj has a very unique voice and I wish they would get back together :(
Here's hoping
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Huge SoaD fan. I have everything they've recorded from studio albums to some really fuckin obscure demo tapes.
I've never been able to see them live sadly enough. Oh well. Maybe we will get a reunion tour someday.
Album ranking:
Steal This Album!
System of a Down
Toxicity/Mezermize
Hypnotize (horrible, horrible album)
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Album ranking:
Mesmerize
Toxicity
Hypnotize
Steal This Album
SOAD
I fail to see how anyone who likes SOAD and their style can consider Hypnotize to be "horrible".
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They will get back together at some point all bands reunite at some point in time. my album ranking
Hypnotize
Mezmerize
Toxicity
Steal this album
System of a down.
:eek !!! You like Hypnotize the Best ?!?! I find that to be their worst album. And i'd never put Those two albums over toxicity.
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They were one of my favorite bands back in the day, and probably still on my top 25. Seeing them live was one of the best concerts I've ever been to.
I'd rank the albums:
Toxicity
Steal This Album!
Mesmerize (sometimes this switches places with STA!)
System Of A Down
Hypnotize
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
In a way, I kind of hope TBC and WotLK prove to be sort of the extreme ends of a development spectrum, and that they use the lessons learned from them to manage a happy medium between the two in the future.
For instance, in TBC undeveloped content was basically made into nonfunctional, enter-at-your-own-risk wilderness full of mobs that few players could hope to survive against. There wasn't a sense that anything was being shortchanged when the plateaus overlooking Blade's Edge Mountains were populated by uber-powerful Legion elites, or when Skettis was mostly a forest dominated by elite Ancients, Giants and Arakkoa. It just felt like they were neat little corners of the world, and were thus made all the more rewarding when they finally got used for something.
In Northrend, unfinished areas feel like just that; places where the developers ran out of time or decided halfway through that it wasn't worth the effort. Places like Crystalsong and the camp outside Ulduar feel like voids of implied content, where NPC's stand around almost mockingly, like living signposts that read "this is where the content was going to be". Grizzlemaw feels like a relevant place where things are going on that should be expanded upon as the furbolgs battle over the area, yet players are only expected to make a quick one-stop visit for two related quests, and then it's never used again. The fact that the reputation mechanic is so watered down in WotLK (as in, nearly half of them are essentially meaningless nametags) kills any sense that future development of heretofore under-utilized factions might add neat stuff and rewards, since they're pretty unlikely to add whole tables of quartermaster items and incentives for a faction that half the max-level players already reached exalted with through the Argent Tournament.
Similarly, the outside world of Northrend suffered from Blizzard going all-out at the start. The overworld plot got fleshed out, which is good, but notably at the expense of having fewer fresh new raids than TBC did. So they ended up having to pile on the raid content with patches while lumping all the outside world content of the patches into the Argent Tournament instead of further expanding upon other undeveloped parts of the greater continent of Northrend. Hence, the Sunreaver and Silver Covenant content is plopped down next door to the Argent Tournament to keep it all geographically close to the rest of the new stuff despite the existence of entire basecamps for both factions in Crystalong.
I'm still holding out hope for something interesting before the end of WotLK, though. Something the other day slightly refreshed that hope, as I was running dailies in Icecrown. On a whim I headed down into Naz'anak, the Forgotten Depths. As I plunged downward, a message flashed in the middle of my screen.
"Discovered: Naz'anak, The Forgotten Depths"
Nothing remarkable in and of itself, except I've been there dozens of times. It's quite discovered. Since well before I even set out for the Explorer achievement. Yet something's been reset, and while it might be an outright glitch, maybe it isn't. I'd like to think perhaps something's being changed down there, and maybe this symptom popped up when 3.1 and the subsequent hotfixes came out. And while we already know that the Anub'arak encounter takes place in a similarly named "sub-zone", that place is part of a raid instance. It isn't built on the regular world server, so it shouldn't affect the zones there. And after spending about an hour and a half running around looking for hints of any changes (yeah, I'm that stubborn) though I couldn't find any it became clear to me during my search that the Nerubian architecture down there doesn't seem arbitrarily designed. The topmost portions of the structures are awfully reminiscent of the entrance to Ahn'kahet, with spider leg-like protrusions surrounding a hexagonal archway. And the edges of the sub-zone include numerous short side-tunnels that are blocked off by invisible barriers. Almost as if they're flat textures where someday there might be branching tunnels.
Maybe that message was nothing. Just an isolated hiccup or an error.
Or maybe it's a tiny hint of something more. After all, they set the bar high with Quel'danas for final patch content. It just might take something like a real , full-on Azjol-Nerub to meet that bar this time around. Maybe rather than outright eliminating the Azjol-Nerub zone, Blizz decided that something as expansive as an underground empire residing beneath much of Northrend called for something more than just being one more zone at release, and would be better served as the stage for the final assault on Icecrown.
After all, we spent most of TBC wondering where the corrupted "empty" Sunwell and Anveena were, despite the story of the Sunwell Trilogy and indications that both still existed somwhere in Quel'thalas. Nothing in-game outright indicated that they were anywhere to be found (and that wasn't helped by the fact that our only point of reference - WCIII - had the Sunwell placed seemingly in the center of Silvermoon City itself); not even any inaccessible areas of Silvermoon were there to keep us wondering. Yet our question was answered with the final patch and the addition of Quel'danas. Similarly, greater Azjol-Nerub remains absent as a zone and the Nerubians are marginalized so far despite the continued hints of there being more; the fact that they bothered to elaborate as much as they did in the official on-site Azjol-Nerub and Ahn'kahet instance profiles feels to me like they haven't forgotten or written it off entirely. According to those profiles, the Nerubians are still fighting the Scourge in the hopes of someday restoring their kingdom. Perhaps patch 3.3 will involve taking our own battle against the Scourge beneath Northrend, to tip the scales in a battle that's been going on since before we even arrived and clear the way to Icecrown itself.
I know I'm probably setting myself up to be disappointed, but still...my cautious optimism refuses to be smothered until I can look back at the entirety of WotLK and declare it an overall disappointment, and it's hard to do that when we're really only one content patch into the expansion.
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The obvious solution is to quit WoW and come to Lord of the Rings Online or wait for Dungeons and Dragons Online to leave beta :hat
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Absolutely love SOAD. It is a true shame that Tankian's solo album sucked so much hairy, decrepit balls because he has a real talent. I first got into them when a friend of mine played Steal This Album for me. Funny, I thought he had literally stolen that album and wrote some shit on there himself (6th grade, give me some slack). I loved it right off the bat though, despite the hilarity of some of the songs and the insanity of others, it still sounded kick-fucking-ass. Soon after had the rest of their albums up to that point and kept up until the band's demise. Though I must say I didn't enjoy Hypnotize/Mesmerize as much, but it was still a solid effort. STA still stands at the top for me though, with Toxicity coming in at a close second. Holy Mountains will remain in my top three for sure though despite the rest of the album, that song is made of such epic win.
Sad that they're done for good more than likely, but if they were going to continue down the path of H/M then I can't say I disagree. Will always remain one of my favorites, though.
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
In a way, I kind of hope TBC and WotLK prove to be sort of the extreme ends of a development spectrum, and that they use the lessons learned from them to manage a happy medium between the two in the future.
For instance, in TBC undeveloped content was basically made into nonfunctional, enter-at-your-own-risk wilderness full of mobs that few players could hope to survive against. There wasn't a sense that anything was being shortchanged when the plateaus overlooking Blade's Edge Mountains were populated by uber-powerful Legion elites, or when Skettis was mostly a forest dominated by elite Ancients, Giants and Arakkoa. It just felt like they were neat little corners of the world, and were thus made all the more rewarding when they finally got used for something.
In Northrend, unfinished areas feel like just that; places where the developers ran out of time or decided halfway through that it wasn't worth the effort. Places like Crystalsong and the camp outside Ulduar feel like voids of implied content, where NPC's stand around almost mockingly, like living signposts that read "this is where the content was going to be". Grizzlemaw feels like a relevant place where things are going on that should be expanded upon as the furbolgs battle over the area, yet players are only expected to make a quick one-stop visit for two related quests, and then it's never used again. The fact that the reputation mechanic is so watered down in WotLK (as in, nearly half of them are essentially meaningless nametags) kills any sense that future development of heretofore under-utilized factions might add neat stuff and rewards, since they're pretty unlikely to add whole tables of quartermaster items and incentives for a faction that half the max-level players already reached exalted with through the Argent Tournament.
Similarly, the outside world of Northrend suffered from Blizzard going all-out at the start. The overworld plot got fleshed out, which is good, but notably at the expense of having fewer fresh new raids than TBC did. So they ended up having to pile on the raid content with patches while lumping all the outside world content of the patches into the Argent Tournament instead of further expanding upon other undeveloped parts of the greater continent of Northrend. Hence, the Sunreaver and Silver Covenant content is plopped down next door to the Argent Tournament to keep it all geographically close to the rest of the new stuff despite the existence of entire basecamps for both factions in Crystalong.
I'm still holding out hope for something interesting before the end of WotLK, though. Something the other day slightly refreshed that hope, as I was running dailies in Icecrown. On a whim I headed down into Naz'anak, the Forgotten Depths. As I plunged downward, a message flashed in the middle of my screen.
"Discovered: Naz'anak, The Forgotten Depths"
Nothing remarkable in and of itself, except I've been there dozens of times. It's quite discovered. Since well before I even set out for the Explorer achievement. Yet something's been reset, and while it might be an outright glitch, maybe it isn't. I'd like to think perhaps something's being changed down there, and maybe this symptom popped up when 3.1 and the subsequent hotfixes came out. And while we already know that the Anub'arak encounter takes place in a similarly named "sub-zone", that place is part of a raid instance. It isn't built on the regular world server, so it shouldn't affect the zones there. And after spending about an hour and a half running around looking for hints of any changes (yeah, I'm that stubborn) though I couldn't find any it became clear to me during my search that the Nerubian architecture down there doesn't seem arbitrarily designed. The topmost portions of the structures are awfully reminiscent of the entrance to Ahn'kahet, with spider leg-like protrusions surrounding a hexagonal archway. And the edges of the sub-zone include numerous short side-tunnels that are blocked off by invisible barriers. Almost as if they're flat textures where someday there might be branching tunnels.
Maybe that message was nothing. Just an isolated hiccup or an error.
Or maybe it's a tiny hint of something more. After all, they set the bar high with Quel'danas for final patch content. It just might take something like a real , full-on Azjol-Nerub to meet that bar this time around. Maybe rather than outright eliminating the Azjol-Nerub zone, Blizz decided that something as expansive as an underground empire residing beneath much of Northrend called for something more than just being one more zone at release, and would be better served as the stage for the final assault on Icecrown.
After all, we spent most of TBC wondering where the corrupted "empty" Sunwell and Anveena were, despite the story of the Sunwell Trilogy and indications that both still existed somwhere in Quel'thalas. Nothing in-game outright indicated that they were anywhere to be found (and that wasn't helped by the fact that our only point of reference - WCIII - had the Sunwell placed seemingly in the center of Silvermoon City itself); not even any inaccessible areas of Silvermoon were there to keep us wondering. Yet our question was answered with the final patch and the addition of Quel'danas. Similarly, greater Azjol-Nerub remains absent as a zone and the Nerubians are marginalized so far despite the continued hints of there being more; the fact that they bothered to elaborate as much as they did in the official on-site Azjol-Nerub and Ahn'kahet instance profiles feels to me like they haven't forgotten or written it off entirely. According to those profiles, the Nerubians are still fighting the Scourge in the hopes of someday restoring their kingdom. Perhaps patch 3.3 will involve taking our own battle against the Scourge beneath Northrend, to tip the scales in a battle that's been going on since before we even arrived and clear the way to Icecrown itself.
I know I'm probably setting myself up to be disappointed, but still...my cautious optimism refuses to be smothered until I can look back at the entirety of WotLK and declare it an overall disappointment, and it's hard to do that when we're really only one content patch into the expansion.
Meh, sooo long, I'm sure it has some good points, but I'm too lazy to even start reading
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
In a way, I kind of hope TBC and WotLK prove to be sort of the extreme ends of a development spectrum, and that they use the lessons learned from them to manage a happy medium between the two in the future.
For instance, in TBC undeveloped content was basically made into nonfunctional, enter-at-your-own-risk wilderness full of mobs that few players could hope to survive against. There wasn't a sense that anything was being shortchanged when the plateaus overlooking Blade's Edge Mountains were populated by uber-powerful Legion elites, or when Skettis was mostly a forest dominated by elite Ancients, Giants and Arakkoa. It just felt like they were neat little corners of the world, and were thus made all the more rewarding when they finally got used for something.
In Northrend, unfinished areas feel like just that; places where the developers ran out of time or decided halfway through that it wasn't worth the effort. Places like Crystalsong and the camp outside Ulduar feel like voids of implied content, where NPC's stand around almost mockingly, like living signposts that read "this is where the content was going to be". Grizzlemaw feels like a relevant place where things are going on that should be expanded upon as the furbolgs battle over the area, yet players are only expected to make a quick one-stop visit for two related quests, and then it's never used again. The fact that the reputation mechanic is so watered down in WotLK (as in, nearly half of them are essentially meaningless nametags) kills any sense that future development of heretofore under-utilized factions might add neat stuff and rewards, since they're pretty unlikely to add whole tables of quartermaster items and incentives for a faction that half the max-level players already reached exalted with through the Argent Tournament.
Similarly, the outside world of Northrend suffered from Blizzard going all-out at the start. The overworld plot got fleshed out, which is good, but notably at the expense of having fewer fresh new raids than TBC did. So they ended up having to pile on the raid content with patches while lumping all the outside world content of the patches into the Argent Tournament instead of further expanding upon other undeveloped parts of the greater continent of Northrend. Hence, the Sunreaver and Silver Covenant content is plopped down next door to the Argent Tournament to keep it all geographically close to the rest of the new stuff despite the existence of entire basecamps for both factions in Crystalong.
I'm still holding out hope for something interesting before the end of WotLK, though. Something the other day slightly refreshed that hope, as I was running dailies in Icecrown. On a whim I headed down into Naz'anak, the Forgotten Depths. As I plunged downward, a message flashed in the middle of my screen.
"Discovered: Naz'anak, The Forgotten Depths"
Nothing remarkable in and of itself, except I've been there dozens of times. It's quite discovered. Since well before I even set out for the Explorer achievement. Yet something's been reset, and while it might be an outright glitch, maybe it isn't. I'd like to think perhaps something's being changed down there, and maybe this symptom popped up when 3.1 and the subsequent hotfixes came out. And while we already know that the Anub'arak encounter takes place in a similarly named "sub-zone", that place is part of a raid instance. It isn't built on the regular world server, so it shouldn't affect the zones there. And after spending about an hour and a half running around looking for hints of any changes (yeah, I'm that stubborn) though I couldn't find any it became clear to me during my search that the Nerubian architecture down there doesn't seem arbitrarily designed. The topmost portions of the structures are awfully reminiscent of the entrance to Ahn'kahet, with spider leg-like protrusions surrounding a hexagonal archway. And the edges of the sub-zone include numerous short side-tunnels that are blocked off by invisible barriers. Almost as if they're flat textures where someday there might be branching tunnels.
Maybe that message was nothing. Just an isolated hiccup or an error.
Or maybe it's a tiny hint of something more. After all, they set the bar high with Quel'danas for final patch content. It just might take something like a real , full-on Azjol-Nerub to meet that bar this time around. Maybe rather than outright eliminating the Azjol-Nerub zone, Blizz decided that something as expansive as an underground empire residing beneath much of Northrend called for something more than just being one more zone at release, and would be better served as the stage for the final assault on Icecrown.
After all, we spent most of TBC wondering where the corrupted "empty" Sunwell and Anveena were, despite the story of the Sunwell Trilogy and indications that both still existed somwhere in Quel'thalas. Nothing in-game outright indicated that they were anywhere to be found (and that wasn't helped by the fact that our only point of reference - WCIII - had the Sunwell placed seemingly in the center of Silvermoon City itself); not even any inaccessible areas of Silvermoon were there to keep us wondering. Yet our question was answered with the final patch and the addition of Quel'danas. Similarly, greater Azjol-Nerub remains absent as a zone and the Nerubians are marginalized so far despite the continued hints of there being more; the fact that they bothered to elaborate as much as they did in the official on-site Azjol-Nerub and Ahn'kahet instance profiles feels to me like they haven't forgotten or written it off entirely. According to those profiles, the Nerubians are still fighting the Scourge in the hopes of someday restoring their kingdom. Perhaps patch 3.3 will involve taking our own battle against the Scourge beneath Northrend, to tip the scales in a battle that's been going on since before we even arrived and clear the way to Icecrown itself.
I know I'm probably setting myself up to be disappointed, but still...my cautious optimism refuses to be smothered until I can look back at the entirety of and declare it an overall disappointment, and it's hard to do that when we're really only one content patch into the expansion.
is that even relavent to what i said.
i dont eve know what WotLK and TBC stand for.
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
What's wrong with Hypnotize?
Okay, now to answer your question. Musically, it's by far their least diverse. Each song seemed to be written so it might as well become a radio hit. It's all just so very generic. Then there's the fact that only about 1/3 of the album actually keeps me interested, while the other songs are just either really bad or just not enough to keep my interested.
As a whole, Hypnotize was a major disappointment to be the follow up album to Mesmerize. I honestly think I may have liked it better if it were the first of the double album. Mesmerize just seems like a much better conclusion to SoaD's discography and career (plus, Lost in Hollywood would be a perfect way to wrap up SoaD's career)
Another issue I had with it was how Daron basically insisted he sing more. To me, he always seemed to be the backing vocalist who sometimes took the spotlight for brief amounts of time. But on Hypnotize he is basically taking up half of the vocals. It bothers me.
And Hypnotize is a little too mainstream for SoaD. Like I mentioned earlier, the album is far too generic. Unlike a good portion of their music before this album.
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
What's wrong with Hypnotize?
Mesmerize just seems like a much better conclusion to SoaD's discography and career (plus, Lost in Hollywood would be a perfect way to wrap up SoaD's career)
Another issue I had with it was how Daron basically insisted he sing more. To me, he always seemed to be the backing vocalist who sometimes took the spotlight for brief amounts of time. But on Hypnotize he is basically taking up half of the vocals. It bothers me.
And Hypnotize is a little too mainstream for SoaD.
i wouldnt say lost in hollywood wraped up there career they can get back together. i dont have a problem with daron. and hasnt system been mainstream alot since toxicity
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
What's wrong with Hypnotize?
Mesmerize just seems like a much better conclusion to SoaD's discography and career (plus, Lost in Hollywood would be a perfect way to wrap up SoaD's career)
Another issue I had with it was how Daron basically insisted he sing more. To me, he always seemed to be the backing vocalist who sometimes took the spotlight for brief amounts of time. But on Hypnotize he is basically taking up half of the vocals. It bothers me.
And Hypnotize is a little too mainstream for SoaD.
i wouldnt say lost in hollywood wraped up there career they can get back together. i dont have a problem with daron. and hasnt system been mainstream alot since toxicity
Ah, but had the Infinite Flight succeeded at the Dark Portal, Medivh would be dead, as would the majority of the Order of Tirisfal (since he killed most of them). No Guardian, and with his death no more power accumulated and passed on from each prior Guardian to the next, growing with each successive Guardian. Hence, though the orcs wouldn't have invaded, the Legion's agents would have been able to infiltrate Azeroth virtually unchecked as the planet's most powerful defender would be gone and the world at large would still be ignorant of the demonic threat.
Coupled with civil strife between the human kingdoms and no Alliance to unite their resources against a common foe, the planet would have probably ended up eventually succumbing to demonic invasion.
The Lich King was a powerful tool of the Legion, but the very fact that Kil'Jaeden was able to send him to the planet at all suggests that the Guardian was probably a major factor in preventing such a thing from having already happened ages ago. Whenever especially powerful demons infiltrated Azeroth, the Guardian's job was to show up and smack them down. Even after the Horde failed, one thing was accomplished by the tandem plotting of Sargeras and Kil'Jaeden: Azeroth's primary defenders against demonic invasion were practically wiped out, along with their most powerful agent.
In the alternate future that would have resulted from the Infinites slaying Medivh and preventing the Horde's arrival, just as in the timeline we have, there would have been no Guardian to prevent Kil'Jaeden from sending any number of nasty things to Azeroth to act on his behalf; Ner'zhul was a convenient pawn, but the Deceiver was unlikely to have been sitting around hoping that this one specific orc shaman would screw up to the point of destroying Draenor and fleeing to another world so that they could invade and conquer Azeroth, and hedging all their bets on the assumption that Ner'zhul wouldn't screw up a million other things along the way and never get that far. He was the tool at hand, and a convenience in that Kil'Jaeden wanted to torment him anyway; he wasn't absolutely necessary to such a degree that no other creature could have sufficed. I imagine Kil'Jaeden could have turned just about any captured mortal into a Lich King if he so chose.
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lorelol
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The only albums of theirs I enjoy pretty thoroughly are Toxicity, and the latest two.
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Whats wrong with hypnotize
What's wrong with Hypnotize?
Mesmerize just seems like a much better conclusion to SoaD's discography and career (plus, Lost in Hollywood would be a perfect way to wrap up SoaD's career)
Another issue I had with it was how Daron basically insisted he sing more. To me, he always seemed to be the backing vocalist who sometimes took the spotlight for brief amounts of time. But on Hypnotize he is basically taking up half of the vocals. It bothers me.
And Hypnotize is a little too mainstream for SoaD.
i wouldnt say lost in hollywood wraped up there career they can get back together. i dont have a problem with daron. and hasnt system been mainstream alot since toxicity
I wouldn't say Lost in Hollywood wrapped up their career. They can get back together. I don't have problem with Daron. Also, hasn't System of a Down been mainstream since Toxicity?
You could say that. But they had a much more distinctive style to their older stuff. Much more obscurity involved. Where Hypnotize only has a few moments like that.
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Arcaeus, quite spamming.
Also, as much as it pains me to say it, I agree with wrath here. Stylistically Mesmerize is not a departure from everything else they've done except their debut. Ok Daron sang more, but it still wasn't that much, and when he was singing it generally suited what was going on.
Plus it had the full Solider Side which is one of my all-time favourite SOAD songs.
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Hypnotize is great.
Anyone who puts Steal This Album! in their top 3 has really bad taste in music. They're B-Sides for a reason.
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For a band that sings multiple songs about sex, though in code, this thread is damn in-depth.
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Hypnotize is great.
Anyone who puts Steal This Album! in their top 3 has really bad taste in music. They're B-Sides for a reason.
Fine, then I have a bad taste in music I suppose. But I will stand by the fact that I love Steal This Album.
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Hypnotize is great.
Anyone who puts Steal This Album! in their top 3 has really bad taste in music. They're B-Sides for a reason.
Fine, then I have a bad taste in music I suppose. But I will stand by the fact that I love Steal This Album.
Yay, stand up for what's righteous and noble!
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Hypnotize is great.
Anyone who puts Steal This Album! in their top 3 has really bad taste in music. They're B-Sides for a reason.
k its just a really fun album
seriously when was the last time you had fun listening to an album?
not enjoyed it, or got a kick out of it
but actualy didn't take it seriously, had fun listening to it, and even got a few laughs out of it?
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All of their albums are at the very least good, IMO.
I can kind of understand the criticism of Hypnotize. I'd say it's easily SOAD's worst. Still has a decent bunch of great songs (Attack, Dreaming, Stealing Society, Vicinity of Obscenity, She's Like Heroin, Soldier Side), but the other half is far worse than the 'other half' of other System albums.
Anyone who puts Steal This Album! in their top 3 has really bad taste in music. They're B-Sides for a reason.
Steal This Album is probably my favourite after Toxicity, and if not, it'd be third behind Mesmerise. Toxicity is my favourite album of theirs, I just really like the band's sound at this point in their career, so even B sides from this 'era' sound reallt great to me.
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Vicinity of Obscenity is probably my least favourite from the album, so I find it bizarre that you consider it one of the "great" songs on the album. It's just such an annoying song! :lol
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terracotta pie HEY terracotta pie HEY terracotta pie HEY terracotta pie
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*kills*
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*dies*
That song is rather silly though.
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According to Serj Steal This Album! isn't technically b-sides. Just stuff that didn't fit the theme they were going for with Toxicity, but not of a less quality.
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Zombie thread has risen to consume your brains!
So over the summer I hung out with my old english teacher from high school, and we exchanged a bunch of music, and one of the albums he gave me was Toxicity. I had heard virtually nothing from Sytem besides BYOB back in high school, which was kinda meh. Anyways, I'm finally listening to Toxicity right now.
Holy shit.
This is awesome.
Besides the kinda obnoxious political lyrics.
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I like quite a few of their songs. I don't really understand the whole OMG HYPNOTIZE SUX thing, though I agree it isn't quite as good as Mezemerize. I just can't take this band seriously.
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Hypnotize/Mezmerize are amazing. one package on two separate cd's. those two albums to me sound like they're making fun pop songs. One of Daron's influences, he played weekends as an intro to sugar. Lonely Day a great Fuckin ballad by them. my album rankings
Mezmerize
Toxicity
Hypnotize
Selftitled
Steal this album
now just cause it's like this doesn't mean they suck i just prefer them over others for different reasons.
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SOAD
Toxicity
Hypnotize
Steal This Album
Mezmerize
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Lonely Day a great Fuckin ballad by them.
It's pretty catchy, but the ballady songs from Steal This Album (Roulette and to some extent Ego Brain) are a hell of a lot better.
My rankings:
Mesmerize
Toxicity
Hypnotize
Steal This Album
SOAD
But to be honest they're all really solid albums.
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Lonely Day a great Fuckin ballad by them.
It's pretty catchy, but the ballady songs from Steal This Album (Roulette and to some extent Ego Brain) are a hell of a lot better.
Lonely Day is one of my least favorite System songs, right behind Violent Pornography and Radio/Video. Roulette's pretty good, Ego Brain is one of the best tracks on STA! behind IEAIAIO and Streamline.
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You trippin, foo? Radio/Video is gold.
Mesmerize came out in my first year at uni and about three of my group of friends and I were thrashing that album in the weeks after it was released. My best friend, who is a fairly conservative Christian, wasn't too fond of it, but even he dug Radio/Video.
Lonely Day is pretty garbage though.
One song you never hear anyone talk about is Highway Song off of Steal This Album. It's probably one of my favourite songs of theirs.
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Lonely Day is pretty garbage though.
I completely and wholeheartedly disagree, Lonely Day and Roulette are two of my favorite SoaD songs. Although I will say that "the most loneliest day of my life" is a pretty dumb line, it's just delivered so well.
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The lyrics in Lonely Day are some of the worst lyrics ever written by anyone in the history of everything.
But I really really like the music, so overall I like the song.
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^Yup it's like TCOT. Who here thinks Mezmerize\Hypnotize are a concept
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The lyrics in Lonely Day are some of the worst lyrics ever written by anyone in the history of everything.
But I really really like the music, so overall I like the song.
I think they're meant to be stupid. They're pretty cynical, like the rest of their lyrics.
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The lyrics in Lonely Day are some of the worst lyrics ever written by anyone in the history of everything.
But I really really like the music, so overall I like the song.
I think they're meant to be stupid. They're pretty cynical, like the rest of their lyrics.
This. The lyrics are horrible. And even though SOAD write some bad lyrics from time to time, they couldn't have written something THAT FUCKING STUPID without intentionally setting out to do so.
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Oh obviously they're deliberate, but that still doesn't excuse them from being really bad. :lol
Most of SOAD's lyrics, while often very pretentious, are well written and have some great moments. Lonely Day is not one of them.
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Listened to their S/T for the first time today. Fucking. Awesome. Serj has some awesome growls.
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Listened to their S/T for the first time today. Fucking. Awesome. Serj has some awesome growls.
:tup this band needs more love, too many people lump them beside average mainstream nu-metal bands
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Listened to their S/T for the first time today. Fucking. Awesome. Serj has some awesome growls.
:tup this band needs more love, too many people lump them beside average mainstream nu-metal bands
This.
I might just be talking from a fanboi point of view, but a very good portion of SoaD's song writing is borderline brilliant. On one hand, you have songs that come off as just...silly. But at the same time, they have a point to get across, through their silliness. On the other hand, there is hardly ever just one meaning to be found within their music, aside from a few songs that have specific back stories behind the lyrical content (Kill Rock n Roll).
Sometimes it's almost a mindblowing experience to find something new within the song writing and lyrical content of SoaD's music.
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I love System of a Down. Especially their weird range of songs, going from Chic n' Stu and Sugar, to Aerials and Toxicity.
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Mezmerize/Hypnotize are pretty good albums. I don't understand how low people put this album.
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Mezmerize/Hypnotize are pretty good albums. I don't understand how low people put this album.
Mezmerize is great! I don't like Hypnotize though, except for the last song.
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Mezmerize is great, very solid.
Besides a few decent songs, Hypnotize is godawful.
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Hypnotise has become one of those albums it's cool to hate. It's a really solid album, it's just not up to par with Mesmerize.
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I don't get the hate for Hypnotize either, i'm not too sure about what people criticize the album for, but i think it's a good album.
I would probably rank it as their second worst, over 'self-titled' (which i really like, but i think it's a bit unpolished, has many great ideas, but also lacks some power IMO).
The songs i like/really enjoy on Hypnotize:
Dreaming
Kill Rock N Roll
Hypnotize
Stealing Society
Holy Mountains
Lonely Day
Soldier Side
Also, i'd say Attack is a better 'goofy'-song then Cigaro. :)
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I love this band, but I hate their debut.
This is what I was going to say verbatim.
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Besides a few decent songs, Hypnotize is godawful.
I used to think this about 6 months ago, until a friend of mine and I had a conversation about the difference between Mezmerize/Hypnotize. She brought up the point that well, both albums are much more "refined" and "well crafted" albums compared to their first three releases. That's not to say the other are crap, not in the slightest. But musically, Mezmerize and Hypnotize are not so all over the place.
That said, I used to hate Hypnotize, until I decided I'd be honest with myself on how many terrible songs were on the album. I came up with two songs I find absolutely terrible. Hypnotize and Lonely Day.
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My least favorite is Stealing Society. I really love lonely day.
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Their debut is my favorite, just saying.
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Besides a few decent songs, Hypnotize is godawful.
I used to think this about 6 months ago, until a friend of mine and I had a conversation about the difference between Mezmerize/Hypnotize. She brought up the point that well, both albums are much more "refined" and "well crafted" albums compared to their first three releases. That's not to say the other are crap, not in the slightest. But musically, Mezmerize and Hypnotize are not so all over the place.
That said, I used to hate Hypnotize, until I decided I'd be honest with myself on how many terrible songs were on the album. I came up with two songs I find absolutely terrible. Hypnotize and Lonely Day.
I don't think Hypnotize (the song) is too bad, but it was without any doubt a baffling choice as first single off the album.
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My least favorite is Stealing Society. I really love lonely day.
:omg:
But...but...the vocal harmony section...
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Fantastic band, I recall one day, like 6 years ago, when I bought both the debut and Toxicity. I was floored and I even wasn't into heavy music. Toxicity remains as my favorite album by them, nowadays.
Steal this Album has some fantastic material, but some of the songs feel like filler to me. Same thing with Mesmerize/Hypnotize; some amazing music, but some other meh moments.
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Bump.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=149633
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:caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine:
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:tup
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2011 REUNION. GONNA HAPPEN. CALLING IT NOW.
Edit: Totally didn't see MetalMike06's post...
I WAS RIGHT!!
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Pardon my language but...
OH
MY
FUCKING
GOD
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Birch Boy being psychic all up in this bitch.
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lateralus88: Over enthusiasm since 2008.
Birch Boy being psychic all up in this bitch.
;D Been a long time comin' too. FUCK YEAH CAN'T WAIT. MADISON SQUARE GARDEN HERE I COME.
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lateralus88: Over enthusiasm since 2008.
Words, funny pictures and enlarged text do not do proper justice to what I'm feeling right now. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW MAN!
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Lat isn't being over-enthusiastic. He's being the appropriate amount of enthusiastic. This is big news.
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The possibility of being able to see the only band in my top 5 favourite bands who I have not seen live yet excites me beyond natural human comprehension.
Seriously, my head is full of fuck.
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lateralus88: Over enthusiasm since 2008.
Words, funny pictures and enlarged text do not do proper justice to what I'm feeling right now. YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW MAN!
I can (almost) imagine your excitement. At the rate reunions usually take place, I don't think we'll get a United States tour for a little while though... but we can still revel in the fact that they're reunited.
Lat isn't being over-enthusiastic. He's being the appropriate amount of enthusiastic. This is big news.
I know, I'm just playing with him. Whenever news of this level gets announced (this might take the cake though) like the American Carnage Tour, Iron Maiden tour, etc... he posts gratuitously enthusiastic posts in large capital letters.
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The text size is equivalent to the size of my hard-on.
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*looks at screen*
*goes and finds measuring tape*
*measures length of the word "fucking" in Lat's post as it appears on my screen*
The text size is equivalent to the size of my hard-on.
*giggles*
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It's not to scale, of course.
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Uh-huh.
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Don't make me post pictures.
Seriously, don't.
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I'd like to continue this conversation, but I don't want to further derail the thread. I'd like to keep it on topic. So I'll just say this.
I think it would be hilarious if System pulled a Rage Against the Machine by standing on stage naked in protest. Then we'd get to see all their junk. NOT THAT I WANT TO OR ANYTHING.
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Great news! :tup
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YES. I totally called it to my buddy like...2 months ago! I'm so stoked!
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One of the first bands that truly got me into metal... I love them and really I can't wait until the fucking hiatus is over.
Anyways, I've got to do the album ranking.
1. Steal this Album
2. System of a Down
3. Toxicity
4. Hypnotize
5. Mezmerize
Hypnotize > Mezmerize.
And, I love Stealing Society, especially the Daron "rapping" part or whatever it is. It's really catchy.
+ I really think their B-sides are incredibly awesome.
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Great news. :)
My favorite SOAD-album would be Steal This Album!, after that it gets harder.
5 solid albums. :heart
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1. Steal this Album
I thought I was the only one who thought this. :)
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1. Toxicity
2. Hypnotize
3. Mezmerize
4. Steal this Album!
5. System of a Down
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1. Steal this Album
I thought I was the only one who thought this. :)
You're obviously not. ;D Steal this Album has a wide variety of songs, and they are all fucking great in their way, I think I like that direction of SOAD the most. Even though I love hearing Hypnotize melodies.
It would be killer to do a Steal this Album! survivor, because the album is very consistent.
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A full-blown SOAD survivor would be badass.
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1. Toxicity
2. Hypnotize
3. Mezmerize
4. Steal this Album!
5. System of a Down
I think I agree with this.
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1. Mezmerize
2. Toxicity
3. Hynotize
4. Steal This Album!
5. SOAD
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1. Steal This Album!
2. Toxicity
3. Hypnotize
4. Mesmerize
5. System of a Down
I used to prefer Mesmerize over Hypnotize, but overall they are kinda even for me.
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Oh YES. Finally a chance to see them live.
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This shall be cool. I love Serj but his solo album was baaaaaaaad.
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This shall be cool. I love Serj but his solo album was baaaaaaaad.
If you ask me, it was bad upon first reaction due to how different it was. I'd say that it was definitely a grower. I mean, it's still by no means great in my book, but it's solid if nothing else. But to each his own, I suppose.
ALBUM RANKINGS UP IN THIS BITCH:
1. Mezmerize (as of this past year)
2. Steal This Album!
3. Toxicity
4. SOAD
5. Hypnotize
Not a single bad album in their discog though. Each one is fucking awesome regardless. And their demo material is really cool too, if you guys haven't heard much of it before.
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This shall be cool. I love Serj but his solo album was baaaaaaaad.
I thought it kicked ass.
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Random question: is Daron a druggie? He just doesn't seem right in the head at all. His eccentric personality leads me to believe he's on meth or something, or is that just who he is naturally?
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When musicians are on drugs, they write good songs. lollonelyday
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Lonely Day is the worst song System ever wrote, and that includes every song on the debut.
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Lonely Day is just an overall terrible song. Also Gadough, your comment about their debut album confuses me. That album is so fucking good.
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I'm not too fond of it.
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Their debut is great.
I really hope this info is true, and hope they come by here at least.
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This shall be cool. I love Serj but his solo album was baaaaaaaad.
Agreed.
It had nothing to do with how much I 'liked' SoaD (they're okay in my book), it was just fucking bad on it's own.
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I saw "System of a Down Thread" and thought it said "Devin Townsend" so I clicked on the thread.
I am disappoint.
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wat
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I probably just saw the "down thread" part and in my head it said "Townsend".
I should probably just stop talking now.
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No please, keep digging your grave. It's fun to watch.
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lolsystemofadown
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lolsystemofadown
lolreading
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https://www.metalstorm.net/events/news_comments.php?news_id=12327
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Fuck!!! Now I have to wait until Monday.
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SO PUMPED
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I wonder where these guys will play. Not state wise but venue wise. When these guys were big, were they playing arenas?
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Probably Madison Square Garden. I wasn't a fan during their active days, but I'm sure they were rather popular and played good-sized venues. Now with five/six more years of exposure, their inclusion in music video games, and all the hype/popularity of the reunion, they'll probably play very large venues.
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Yeah, they'll play the standard arenas. Here's to seeing them in Philly.
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Here's to seeing them in New Y-
Wait a second; that's a guarantee. :laugh:
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So is Philly you spoiled twat!
:hearts:
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But New York is moreso :heart
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Both cities are going to get dates show SHUT YOU FACE AND TAKE A SEAT CAUSE AFTER ALL YOUR JUST TALKING MEAT...AND MUSIC...WELL ITS JUST ENTERTAINMENT FOLKS
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If they do not play Seattle THINGS WILL DIE BY MY FUCKING HANDS
DON'T MAKE ME INCREASE THE SIZE OF MY TEXT. I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THESE GUYS PERFORM LIVE SINCE I FIRST GOT MY FUCKING COPY OF TOXICITY IN 7TH GRADE BY MY FAMILY WOULDN'T LET ME GO AND I NEVER GOT THE OPPORTUNITY SINCE.
FUCK.
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New York :heart
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*awaits a list of tour dates that doesn't include Seattle*
*giggling to myself imagining how Lat would react to this*
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*awaits a list of tour dates that doesn't include Seattle*
*giggling to myself imagining how Lat would react to this*
This :lol
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Serj: Hey, SOAD is gonna tour again!
Lat: OMG NO WAI WHEN ARE YOU COMIN TO SEATTLE
Serj:
(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbc28dKuhQ1qav6f6.png)
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:lol :rollin :lol
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Maynard: Hey, Tool is gonna tour again!
Birch: OMG NO WAI WHEN ARE YOU COMIN TO NEW YORK
Maynard:
(https://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbc28dKuhQ1qav6f6.png)
Fixed for me over the summer :sadpanda:
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I know this sounds crazy...but....
I would have gladly given up seeing Tool for SoaD.
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The way that article read, it seems that is based off of blabbermouth. Or at least, it seems like nothing is official yet (unless you count that radio host's part as official).
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I know this sounds crazy...but....
I would have gladly given up seeing Tool for SoaD.
Hard choice.
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I'd rather see Tool :neverusethis:
Just because I said that, both will probably skip me over :(
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Don't mean to show off or anything, but I've seen SOAD twice.
:D
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NO ONE CARES YOU LIMY BRIT!!!!!!!!!!
:hearts:
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Don't mean to show off or anything, but I've seen SOAD twice.
:D
FUCK YOU FUCKING FUCK
:heart
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Don't mean to show off or anything, but I've seen SOAD twice.
:D
DIE
I mean
DIE
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:lol
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They're trying to build a prison.
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FOR YOU AND ME TO LIVE IN
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https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=150044
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Blabbermouth.net.
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WHY DOES IT DO THAT!!?!?!? Let me try again.
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Please work:
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspxmode=Article&newsitemID=150044
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Fail.
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"Hello All,
We are excited to announce that System will be playing some dates together in 2011.
We also want to thank you for your loyalty and support, not only to System Of A Down, but to all of our solo efforts as well. We have no master plan of sorts – we are playing these shows simply because we want to play together again as a band and for you, our amazing fans.
The list of dates and on-sale information for these shows is below.
We look forward to seeing all of you!
Peace,
System Of A Down
6/2/11 – Italy, Milan, Milan Fiera Arena (on-sale Dec 1 @ 10am)
6/4/11 – Germany, Nurnberg, Rock im Park (AVAILABLE NOW)
6/5/11 – Germany, Nurburgring, Rock am Ring (AVAILABLE NOW)
6/6/11 – France, Paris, Omnisports de Bercy (on-sale Dec 14 @ 10am)
6/9/11 – Switzerland, Interlaken, Greenfield Festival (on-sale Dec 1 @ 10am)
6/11/11 – UK, Castle Donington, Download Festival (on-sale Dec 3 @ 9am)
6/13/11 – Austria, Nickelsdorf, Novarock (AVAILABLE NOW)
6/15/11 – Germany, Berlin, Wuhlheide (on-sale Dec 1 @ 9am)
6/17/11 – Sweden, Gothenburg, Metaltown Festival (on-sale Dec 2 @ 9am)
6/19/11 – Finland, Turku, Provinssirock (on-sale Dec 1 @ 9am)
"
Just got the email. I just need to wait for North American dates, if they happen.
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Why in the blue fuck are they playing a reunion tour in Europe when their biggest fanbase is in America???
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FUCK YES I am totally going to Download.
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Mother fucker. I hate being a metalhead in America.
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FUCK YES I am totally going to Download.
Yeah I reckon I'd be up for it this year as well, haven't been in a few years!
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I still have hope of a U.S. tour.
And by hope, I mean PURE MOTHER FUCKING NAIVETY
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Why in the blue fuck are they playing a reunion tour in Europe when their biggest fanbase is in America???
Because Guantanamo Bay/Iraq/Bush and also oil.
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:lol
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Love 'old' System, saw them live in 2003 which was just the best thing ever, not such a big fan of their newer material but I was sort of planning to go to Download anyways and with Sevenfold also confirmed that might just seal it.
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I LOVE TO SPREAD YOU OUUUUUUUUT PAPARAPAAAAAAAAA :metal
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TOUCHING WHHHOOooEVERS BEEEEeeHHhhIIInnnnnDDD Bahahahahahahah
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I prefer Serj's solo work to SOAD, especially his new album. It's wonderful.
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BUMP, because I just bought a ticket to MetalTown, a Swedish festival where they will play. :metal Just recently got into these guys after a recommendation from my girlfriend. They're awesome!
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Alright, you found the thread. Since I have no way of posting on a comp. I use my phone, theirs no way I'm going to dig through that many pages.
Got my tickets to the Albuquerque show...
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I'll be getting my ticket from a friend soon. GOD I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR THIS SHOW
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Was suprised to find this on the new Amon Amarth album:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHS-vYZ9-6g
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....Woah. Ok then. Cool.
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I like it better than the original. The original is pretty great though.
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dredg is opening for them in Germany
- june 15: Wuhlheide, Berlin, Germany
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I like it better than the original. The original is pretty great though.
Yea, it's a great cover. Was very suprised when I heard it for the first time. Was listening to the album without having checked the song titles and suddenly this came on. I was like 'wut' and :metal at the same time.
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I am not sure what I think of it.
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I prefer the original 1000 times over it, honestly.
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I was never very fond of Aerials at all, really. I don't know why.
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I prefer the original 1000 times over it, honestly.
Yep.
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I was never very fond of Aerials at all, really. I don't know why.
Listen to it some more. It's awesome.
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I am not sure what I think of it.
Same here. It isn't really bad, but it's so out of left field that I can't help but scratch my head and ask "why?"
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Good Musically.
AWFUL vocally.
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Also, sounds like DFH :biggrin:
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Good Musically.
AWFUL vocally.
Now, that I disagree with. Johan Hegg is an excellent vocalist. For death metal, his vocals are exceptionally easy to decipher.
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I agree with Gadough. He's a great death metal vocalist, and Amon Amarth are awesome when they are playing their original material. This Aerials cover...not sure if want. Still.
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I hope it's not forbidden to revive this thread once again. :lol
I am SO fucking pumped for their concert! Over the past few months I've listened to them non-stop. :metal
Favorite songs change around, but I always go back to Toxicity and Prison Song/Toxicity/Psycho/Aerials. Seriously, Daron's line in Prison Song makes the song for me. :lol
I agree though that Lonely Day is pretty bad. I read somewhere that Daron originally didn't even want it on the album, he supposely writes songs all the time that he doesn't fit the SoaD concept. It was the other band members who had to "drag the song out of him".
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Yeah, Lonely Day blows. It's probably my least favorite System song.
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Oh, and Spiders is fucking amazing as well.
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I was never very fond of Aerials at all, really. I don't know why.
Listen to it some more. It's awesome.
Yes.
Yeah, Lonely Day blows. It's probably my least favorite System song.
Dude.
Oh, and Spiders is fucking amazing as well.
Indeed.
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Yeah, Lonely Day blows. It's probably my least favorite System song.
I really like it.
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I don't really listen to SOAD that much anymore but they still totally rank as one of my top ten-ish bands, they're freakin' amazing live, best live band I've seen (tied with Symphony X), I would LOVE to go see them again (I saw them twice before, in 2003 and 2005) but I have limited funds and time so I don't think I will... I'd rather go see band I'm currently insane about.
Lonely Day sucks!
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I don't really listen to SOAD that much anymore but they still totally rank as one of my top ten-ish bands, they're freakin' amazing live, best live band I've seen (tied with Symphony X), I would LOVE to go see them again (I saw them twice before, in 2003 and 2005) but I have limited funds and time so I don't think I will... I'd rather go see band I'm currently insane about.
Lonely Day sucks!
Lonely Day is okay, not awful, but not their best. And HECK YES to Symphony X!!! :metal Might go to a concert later this year!!!
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Lonely Day is the worst thing SOAD has ever written and I skip it every time I listen to Hypnotize.
I am SO fucking pumped for their concert!
Dude. You have NO FUCKING IDEA.
:lol
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He does now:
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Why all this Lonely Day hate. It's not their best song ever or close to it but it's freaking good...and love the solo, really cool effects, short and sweet.
AND DAGOUGH YOUR AVATAR IS SO D'AWWW
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Why all this Lonely Day hate. It's not their best song ever or close to it but it's freaking good...
This. I haven't heard much of their stuff but Lonely Day is a great song to me.
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Why all this Lonely Day hate. It's not their best song ever or close to it but it's freaking good...
This. I haven't heard much of their stuff but Lonely Day is a great song to me.
Here's your problem.
As for Jamesman, I think your ears might just be defective or something. Sorry mang.
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So if I listen to more of their songs I would somehow magically dislike that song?
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...Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if that happened.
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I am SO fucking pumped for their concert!
Dude. You have NO FUCKING IDEA.
:lol
I read the thread. :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrtH4qNDpnQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrtH4qNDpnQ) This is a cool, early Sugar performance. SHUGAH! :metal
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As for Jamesman, I think your ears might just be defective or something. Sorry mang.
lolno
I just like SOAD that much. That's why I am HANDS DOWN THE NUMBER ONE FAN OF SOAD THREAD
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As for Jamesman, I think your ears might just be defective or something. Sorry mang.
lolno
I just like SOAD that much. That's why I am HANDS DOWN THE NUMBER ONE FAN OF SOAD THREAD
OH DON'T EVEN GO THERE, GIRL
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I'm sad Europe gets the special treatment once again. They get to pick their set.
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I'm sad Europe gets the special treatment once again. They get to pick their set.
That's because we rule.
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As for Jamesman, I think your ears might just be defective or something. Sorry mang.
lolno
I just like SOAD that much. That's why I am HANDS DOWN THE NUMBER ONE FAN OF SOAD THREAD
OH DON'T EVEN GO THERE, GIRL
GRUNT GRUNT
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The main song I would've voted for would be Peephole.
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The main song I would've voted for would be Question!
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That's guaranteed to be played.
Others would be Dreaming, U-Fig, Mind, P.L.U.C.K, Boom!, Forest, Suggestions, Needles, Prison Song
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Dreaming is such an awesome song.
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Its my favorite from Hypnotize.
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That's guaranteed to be played.
Others would be Dreaming, U-Fig, Mind, P.L.U.C.K, Boom!, Forest, Suggestions, Needles, Prison Song
I sure hope so. Question! is my all time favourite SOAD song.
And yes, Dreaming is fantastic.
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Bumping because I can.
Just about under 3 weeks until they play Seattle. AHGODHURRYUPTIMEANDGOFASTER
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When is that.
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May 13th.
:caffeine: x infinity + 1
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Nice...
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You know I just realized, we can choose our own set. I thought it was just the European countries.
Mine was:
P.L.U.C.K.
Needles
Peephole
Boom
Highway Song
Suggestions
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OKAY SO GUYS LAST NIGHT I SAW SOAD OVER HERE IN SEATTLE AND IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS I'VE EVER BEEN TO. NO JOKE. I TAKE THE PLACEMENT OF MY "GREATEST CONCERT EXPERIENCES" VERY SERIOUSLY AND THIS DEFINITELY IS RIGHT UP THERE WITH TOOL AND NEVERMORE. FROM THE MOMENT WHEN THEY OPENED WITH PRISON SONG AND WE SAW THE BIG CURTAIN FALL TO REVEAL THE BAND TO THE LAST VERSE OF SUGAR, I WAS SCREAMING MY FUCKING HEART OUT TO EACH SONG (EXCEPT LONELY DAY, SINCE I HAD TO PEE).
SERJ WAS AT THE FUCKING TOP OF HIS GAME LAST NIGHT. INCREDIBLE VOCALS ALL AROUND AND HE HAS THIS REALLY INTERESTING DANCING STYLE THAT WAS PRACTICALLY...MEZERMIZING. AND THE REST OF THE BAND WERE AMAZING AS WELL. DARON GAVE OFF SUCH A LARGE PORTION OF ENERGY TO THE CROWD. SHAVO IS STILL A FUCKING BEAST OF A BASS PLAY AND JOHN THREW A DRUMSTICK AT THE END OF THE SHOW ALL THE FUCKING WAY TO THE BACK OF THE STADIUM.
ALSO QUESTION! WAS EASILY THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE NIGHT FOR ME. JUST LIKE SEVERAL OTHER SONGS IN THE SET, THEY DID AN EXTENDED OPENING FOR QUESTION! WHERE SERJ PLAYED THE CHORUS ACOUSTICALLY FOR THE CROWD, THEN THEY JUST FUCKING WENT NUTS WITH THE MAIN HEAVY RIFF.
OH MY GOD THIS SHOW WAS FUCKING BEAUTIFUL I CAN'T BELIEVE IT I ACTUALLY SAW SOAD LIVE OMGOMGOMG :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine: :caffeine:
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I'm sorry, that text isn't big enough for me... can you make it bigger so I can read it?
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I want to see some good footage from this show on youtube. :caffeine:
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I didn't record anything myself, since my phone was going to die and my camera would get shit quality anyway. But here is a link Gadough sent me two days before my show.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=157971
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DAT SETLIST
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I FUCKING KNOW, RIGHT?
Literally, my ONLY complaint was the lack of any songs from Steal this Album. But still, the setlist is godly.
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Yeah....STA! is such an awesome collection of songs...Innervision, ADD, Highway Song and Streamline would be awesome in the setlist (among others).
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I didn't notice that the setlist completely omitted STA. That's weird. I figured they would at least play Boom! or something.
Anyway, glad you enjoyed the show Lat. And nice choice for a piss break.
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And nice choice for a piss break.
Well I mean, I wouldn't dare do it during the flawless portion of the setlist.
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Looking at that list, even though I like LD, if I had to choose, that would be the song I would take a break at as well.
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What happened to the setlist contest.
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Gonna be rockin with my cock out in a couple of hours.
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Enjoy man. I'm still floored at how awesome of a show it was. You will fucking love it :metal :metal :metal
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Holy shit that show looks badass.
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They really, really need to play Dreaming at some point on this tour. I'd love to see footage of that.
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Can't you see that we love my cock?
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Cigaro!
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Did they play that at any of the shows?
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They really, really need to play Dreaming at some point on this tour. I'd love to see footage of that.
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Speaking of which, I just watched a Youtube video of this song with the lyrics. According the video, the chorus is "You went beyond." I always thought it was "You wake me up."
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Yeah, I never heard "You wake me up..." now I need to listen to SOAD. Shame I don't have any on my computer...youtube, what up homes
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I can hear it when you mention it, though..
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Show was AMAZING! Didn't expect the place to be packed.
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...Why not? It's a reunion tour of a highly popular band. What made you think it wouldn't be packed?
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Thread needs to be resurrected!
I saw these guys at the MetalTown festival, together with 24.000 other people. It was AMAZING! Highlights:
1. Darons intro/ballad to Cigaro, proclaiming his and others love for his cock.
2. BURN BABY BURN on the intro to Psycho.
3. Bounce - two minute non-stop jumping with 20.000 people is beyond awesome!
4. Lost in Hollywood - didn't expect that one.
5. Holy Mountains - cool!
6. And off course - Chop Suey. Wow! I didn't hear a single word that Serj was singing because of other people singing too. :lol
While I did expect it to be good, they were better than I thought they would be. Daron and Serj are awesome!
EDIT: Also gotta mention I-E-A-I-A-I-O - didn't expect that one either. I love everything about it except for the name. :lol
EDIT2: Video of that song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4aDd3rmf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4aDd3rmf0)
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YOU GUYS GOT BOUNCE AND VOWELS? HOLY SHIT I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
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Thread needs to be resurrected!
I saw these guys at the MetalTown festival, together with 24.000 other people. It was AMAZING! Highlights:
1. Darons intro/ballad to Cigaro, proclaiming his and others love for his cock.
2. BURN BABY BURN on the intro to Psycho.
3. Bounce - two minute non-stop jumping with 20.000 people is beyond awesome!
4. Lost in Hollywood - didn't expect that one.
5. Holy Mountains - cool!
6. And off course - Chop Suey. Wow! I didn't hear a single word that Serj was singing because of other people singing too. :lol
While I did expect it to be good, they were better than I thought they would be. Daron and Serj are awesome!
EDIT: Also gotta mention I-E-A-I-A-I-O - didn't expect that one either. I love everything about it except for the name. :lol
EDIT2: Video of that song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4aDd3rmf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4aDd3rmf0)
I was there too :D Awesome show :lol
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YOU GUYS GOT BOUNCE AND VOWELS? HOLY SHIT I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
:heart
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I know...I would've also liked a Steal This Album song
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Oh yeah, they didn't play any STA songs before, and Vowels is a great song.
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God that is awesome. I've been on a soad binge for the last few days and I think are becoming my favorite band, I need to fucking see one of these shows.
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Oh yeah, they didn't play any STA songs before, and Vowels is a great song.
That's what I heard as well, so when Daron started to get the audience going with the chorus, I didn't even recognize the song at first. Felt pretty stupid when I finally did. :lol
Anyone know if they plan to write a new album after the tour?
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so I'm thinking of running a SOAD survivor, since there hasn't been one in a while.
anybody interested in participating?
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That would be fucking awesome. I'm definetly in.
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That would be fucking awesome. I'm definetly in.
Ditto.
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That would be fucking awesome. I'm definetly in.
Ditto.
This.
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That would be fucking awesome. I'm definetly in.
Ditto.
This.
That. I know the entire discog and all unreleased songs.
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could you list the unreleased songs for me? I only know the Zelda Song and The Metro.
I figured I'd do the rounds in order of each album release, then add in the unreleased songs round, and then a finals round (with the top 2 songs from each album, and either the top 2 or the top song from the unreleased round).
Also, I'd probably do a consolation round.
that sound alright to you guys?
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I used to think The Zelda Song was SOAD, but it's not.
I'll have to dig for my CD of those songs, I actually don't have any SOAD on my computer...I will when I get home tonight.
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Off the top of my head (and some song titles have been debatable since I first heard them)
Also, The Metro is a cover.
Friik!!
Honey
Blue
Forever
Temper
Cherry
Dam
Marmalade (best song on this list)
There is more (I think) but I am forgetting.
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Also, The Metro is a cover.
Orly? didn't know that.
There is more (I think) but I am forgetting.
No worries, I'll search the vast, craggy, homophobic landscape of the webz for a full list.
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I have them all on my iPod, but there are too many to list. Mainly because well...the majority of unreleased material are b-sides and demos. Plus a live bootleg that's been floating around for quite some time, where they cover Goodbye Blue Sky (sort of).
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https://soad.wikia.com/wiki/Unreleased_Songs
I'll probably skip the unreleased songs, considering there are quite a few, and odds are most people (myself included) haven't heard them
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Mushroom Cult is a Dog Fashion Disco song which Serj sang on. Often incorrectly attributed to SOAD.
/super nerd
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How could I forget Storaged?!
Anyway, from that link, the songs I know are
Friik
Honey
Temper
Marmalade
Johnny (another HOW DID I FORGET THAT song)
Blue
Dam
Virginity
Outer Space (I think I know this song, though if I am thinking of the same song, I found it as "Forever")
I actually know some of the others (Patterns is an AMAZING song featuring Serj and Iommi, highly recommend it), but the above ones I listed are the most well known ones. Though I would recommend any fan of SOAD to listen to all the above tracks, the ones in bold are good enough to be put on any of their albums.
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I made a post in the DTF.org FB group. ;)
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They really, really need to play Dreaming at some point on this tour. I'd love to see footage of that.
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Amen.
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I don't know where to get started with these guys, recommend some songs for me please!
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well you'll have to get used to the fact that they're odd. they play different, odd music, but it's very catchy and thrilling. They're also very high energy.
I would recommend staying away from their first album, because it's a bit darker/heavier.
I would suggest starting off listening to their "Toxicity" album.
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Yeah, listen to Toxicity and then Steal This Album!
Then Mesmerize and Hypnotize.
Then the self-titled.
The unreleased junk is great too.
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I'd say either Toxicity or Mezmerize are the two most accessible.
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Start with Toxicity or Mezermize, then STA and Hypnotize, and finally Self-Titled. Their unreleased stuff are good to listen too.
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I don't know where to get started with these guys, recommend some songs for me please!
Well everyones recommended albums so here are some individual songs
Sugar (THIS IS A FUCKING MUST)
Revenga
ieaiaio
Cigaro
Toxicity
Holy Mountains
Glad you are checking out this band they are fucking great.
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Well everyones recommended albums so here are some individual songs
Sugar (THIS IS A FUCKING MUST)
Revenga
ieaiaio
Cigaro
Toxicity
Holy Mountains
Glad you are checking out this band they are fucking great.
Well here's the issue with your list of songs.
She's trying to get into SOAD, so we want to start her off with the non "weird" songs they have. It might be too much at once if she starts off straight away with songs like "Sugar", "Cigaro", "Violent Pornography" and such.
If she starts off listening to Toxicity (the album), it's a good start because it's a bit more tame than the other albums. It's got more of a rock-edge to it on most of the songs, while still retaining the typical SOAD oddity (albeit in a slower, more introductory way).
So she should start, no question, with Toxicity. Up next, either Steal This Album! or Mezmerize, and by then she'll be used to it all, and can move on to Hypnotize and then self-titled.
So in reference to your list, I believe Sugar and Cigaro to be a bit much to start off with. However, Revenga and I-E-A-E-A-I-O are great songs for her to listen to, because they're fairly clean, typical System sound, and extremely catchy.
Toxicity is just an absolutely mind-blastingly awesome song, so it's a safe bet that she'll like it.
And finally, Holy Mountains. What a great song. This is pure System Imo, and just all around awesome. I feel like this song doesn't get enough praise (at least from what discussions I've had about SOAD). She should definitely listen to this.
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Dammit, every time I think of the song Sugar, I can't help but saying Shhhhuuuugaaaaaahhh to myself in that Daron kind of way. xD
I wonder if they will record another album once this tour is over...
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Dammit, every time I think of the song Sugar, I can't help but saying Shhhhuuuugaaaaaahhh to myself in that Daron kind of way. xD
Who doesn't? :metal :metal :metal
I wonder if they will record another album once this tour is over...
We can only hope. :metal
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I almost don't want them to make another album. Their discography is so flawless already that I'd be worried about them trying to add to it. Besides, Mesmerize/Hypnotize (they fit on one disc, they're one album, but that's another discussion) effectively summed up everything they were. Plus, Soldier Side was the ultimate farewell song, and still is.
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I almost don't want them to make another album. Their discography is so flawless already that I'd be worried about them trying to add to it. Besides, Mesmerize/Hypnotize (they fit on one disc, they're one album, but that's another discussion) effectively summed up everything they were. Plus, Soldier Side was the ultimate farewell song, and still is.
I agree with most of this EXCEPT for Soldier Side being a farewell song. To me, it still feels empty as a closing song to their career. Always has. It was one of the reasons I couldn't hopelessly give myself away to Hypnotize for the longest times like I did with Mezmerize. If you ask me, Lost in Hollywood would have summed it all up so much better.
As for a new album, I look at it this way. I'd love to see them reclaim their name in terms of song writing with the release of a new album. I'm just worried it won't be as classic as every one of their other 5 albums (it's not one album, but that's another discussion).
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Load and Reload are two separate albums.
Deliverance and Damnation are two separate albums.
Mezmerize and Hypnotize are two separate albums.
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I remember when I first got wind of Mesmerize/Hypnotize, they said it was a double album to be released in two parts.
Edit: here is the wiki link saying so: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_of_a_Down#Mezmerize_and_Hypnotize_.282004.E2.80.932005.29
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Double album or not, it doesn't flow like one full album.
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Yeah, but the contents don't mean anything when discussing whether it's a double album or not.
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Well everyones recommended albums so here are some individual songs
Sugar (THIS IS A FUCKING MUST)
Revenga
ieaiaio
Cigaro
Toxicity
Holy Mountains
Glad you are checking out this band they are fucking great.
Well here's the issue with your list of songs.
She's trying to get into SOAD, so we want to start her off with the non "weird" songs they have. It might be too much at once if she starts off straight away with songs like "Sugar", "Cigaro", "Violent Pornography" and such.
Well it's stuff like sugar, ieaiaio, and cigaro that actually got me hooked on this band (I know its not exactly the most accessible but when I listened to it I just thought it was the coolest thing ever). Holy mountains is just fucking great and so is revenga so that's why I added them.
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I feel like it does flow as one album. Load and Reload are definitely separate, Deliverance and Damnation were initially intended to be one album as well. But the key with those albums is they don't have any reprises between them. Mesmerize/Hypnotize starts and ends with Soldier Side. To me, that seals the deal. When I look at other double albums, I feel the same way. Disappear is a great closer to the first disc of Six Degrees, but it doesn't flow into the title track at all. To me, Attack feels like a natural, aggressive progression from Lost in Hollywood. I also swear I saw advertisements labeling Hypnotize as the second part of Mesmerize.
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I feel like it does flow as one album. Load and Reload are definitely separate, Deliverance and Damnation were initially intended to be one album as well. But the key with those albums is they don't have any reprises between them. Mesmerize/Hypnotize starts and ends with Soldier Side. To me, that seals the deal. When I look at other double albums, I feel the same way. Disappear is a great closer to the first disc of Six Degrees, but it doesn't flow into the title track at all. To me, Attack feels like a natural, aggressive progression from Lost in Hollywood. I also swear I saw advertisements labeling Hypnotize as the second part of Mesmerize.
I listen to the two albums back to back constantly, but I still don't feel like Attack sounds like a good transition between tracks, or flows together with Lost in Hollywood at all. I guess my ears must be broken, or I'm just not enough of a SoaD fan to hear it.
:neverusethis:
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I see what you mean Justin. To me though, both albums have their own unique feel. I don't know if it's the songwriting, production, or whatever, but both albums have separate identities for me.
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I see what you mean Justin. To me though, both albums have their own unique feel. I don't know if it's the songwriting, production, or whatever, but both albums have separate identities for me.
I've heard from a few sources that Daron wrote more on the Hypnotize side than Mesmerize (which would explain why it's the weaker of the two ;D ), but it definitely feels like the same album to me. I don't notice much of a difference in the production.
And Wikipedia says it's a double album, so suck it. :neverusethis:
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I remember clearly when Mezmerize came out that it was a double album, with Hypnotize coming a little later.
Either way, I like Mezmerize better.
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Beardfish's Sleeping In Traffic albums part 1 & 2 are two separate albums, even though they have reprise themes within both albums.
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Steal This Album! is a concept album.
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About Daron's lifelong struggle with kleptomania. Yep.
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I'm amazed at all the resistance to this, honestly. I thought everyone loved double albums, and I always thought the Mesmerize/Hypnotize being companion pieces was commonly accepted.
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As cool as it is, it just doesn't FEEL like a double album to me.
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Well Justin, I do think they're companion pieces. But that doesn't make them the same album to me. I guess we're disagreeing because we have different definitions of what constitutes a "double album" versus "two companion albums".
Although admittedly, your Solider Side argument is pretty solid.
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I'm amazed at all the resistance to this, honestly. I thought everyone loved double albums, and I always thought the Mesmerize/Hypnotize being companion pieces was commonly accepted.
because Daron wrote the majority of Hypnotize, and because it's much weaker, and has a different feel from Mesmerize, everybody continues to think of them as separate albums, although everyone knows they were meant to be (and are) a double album.
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It doesn't matter if it doesn't feel like a double album. They released it as such. I remember before it was ever released that they said they were releasing their new album in two parts.
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While Mezmerize is obviously superior, I don't think Hypnotize is "much weaker". I know people like to shit on Lonely Day, and Alex likes to shit on the title track, but I enjoy both songs quite a bit, and Holy Mountains is fucking :metal .
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Okay okay okay. Hold on. The title track has grown on me quite a bit over time.
Lonely Day is still awful and remains my "piss break" song when I saw them live.
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Oh, I thought you still hated it. My bad.
Lonely Day is still good though, and remains Daron's vocal highlight (mainly because he doesn't sound like a tortured animal on it).
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Shitting on Hypnotize the song? Are you not mentally there? ALEX?!
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Lonely Day is still good though, and remains Daron's vocal highlight(mainly because he doesn't sound like a tortured animal on it).
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Shitting on Hypnotize the song? Are you not mentally there? ALEX?!
I learned the errors of my ways. Do not fret.
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Ok, good.
Lonely Day is a great song. Not very SOAD-ish though.
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While Mezmerize is obviously superior, I don't think Hypnotize is "much weaker". I know people like to shit on Lonely Day, and Alex likes to shit on the title track, but I enjoy both songs quite a bit, and Holy Mountains is fucking :metal .
I just think that Mesmerize is so fantastically awesome that Hypnotize just doesn't compare.
But that doesn't mean I think Hypnotize is a bad. Quite the opposite, in fact. And you're correct. Holy Mountains is just pure fucking awesome, distilled to it's very essence.
edit: by the way, I will be starting the SOAD survivor sometime tomorrow afternoon (or perhaps even in the morning)
Would you guys prefer a "vote-out-the-least-favourite" or a Power game survivor?
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Least favorite. Easier for everyone involved.
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Least favorite. Easier for everyone involved.
I figured it would be easier to read the results that way, but I also think that it would be harder to vote out your least favourite than to state which songs you like better than others. I actually really like the power game set-up.
but yeah, I'll just keep it as a least favourite.
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Stumbled upon this collection of funny Daron moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA_03yXbGk8
"I'm gonna quit the band after this interview." :lol
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I find it funny that in a lot of interviews I've seen john actually tries to answer the interviewer seriously after hearing daron.
Well that is the rare occasion that he does actually talk
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[...]to start off, BEST LYRICS of some of there songs:
Chic N' Stu:
Go to the refrigerator....
doors closed.....
lights are out....
BOY ITS GETTING HOT!!!!
I always thought he was saying "Butter's getting hard"[...]
That's nothing compared to some of my misinterpretations.
I used to think that the line in "Needles" was "All the paper money on earth" when, in actuality, it was "Pull the tapeworm out of your ass". I'm not quite sure how I misheard it so badly, but I do know that I was shocked when I read the lyrics one day.
Stumbled upon this collection of funny Daron moments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA_03yXbGk8
"I'm gonna quit the band after this interview." :lol
That video was actually really annoyingly edited. I've seen a lot of those interviews in their entirety, and some of the funniest moments within them either precede or succeed those shown in that collage. The cutoff points were perhaps in the worst possible places.
I don't know where to get started with these guys, recommend some songs for me please!
Well, I took it all in one hit when a friend of mine gave me all of their albums on a thumb drive. It's now three weeks later and I own their entire discography (legally) and am a dedicated fan... So, if there's any way that you can just do what I did, then I'd recommend that method.
If you've got $25 lying around that you don't want, then you could always just invest in this (https://www.amazon.com/System-Down/dp/B004YESKU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311441726&sr=8-1) ;D.
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Mezmorize is the one album that most people I know enjoy the most. It is a really great album.
Their self-titled is also pretty damn amazing.
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Holy crap. You guys have to watch this. It's a piano cover of Radio/Video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAluSbUNkBo
:omg:
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that is indeed pretty fucking awesome
thank you for that
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Most of her piano covers are extremely cool, and that was no exception!
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I've been obsessed with relistening to System lately because I got Radio/Video stuck in my head and decided to listen to it. Then I listened to Mezmerize and it carried on from there.
My album rankings would have to be:
Mezmerize
Steal This Album
Toxicity
Hypnotize
System of a Down
My absolute favorite songs are Sugar, Pepphole, Needles, Chop Suey!, Toxicity, Chic 'n' Stu, Mr. Jack, Fuck the System, Ego Brain, Thetawaves, BYOB, Revenga, Cigaro, Radio/Video, Violent Pornography, Sad Statue, Attack, Kill Rock 'N Roll, Vicinity of obscenity and She's like Heroin.
I realize this was a long list but I couldn't narrow it down lol
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Great list there bro, and yeah her piano covers are amazing.
I think i'm in love :heart.
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The lack of Question! in that list is most disturbing.
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
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Honestly, all of Mezmerize (except for Old School Hollywood and Lost in Hollywood) would be on the list but I didn't feel like putting every song on there. Question! is an absolutely brilliant song, the "Do we...Do we knoooowwwww...when we flyyyyyyyy, when we...when we goooo...do we dieeeeeee....yeahhhhhhhh *heavy*" part always gives me chills.
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Fucking amazing piano cover. She even has Wait for Sleep in her list of covers.
Why on earth are women playing any instruments so sexy?
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
Pretty much this.
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To kind of jump in to last pages conversation, I think Hypnotize is a good album. I don't think it's on the ungodly level Mezmerize, Toxicity and Steal This Album are but it's still a very solid album. I personally feel like the those three consecutive albums will always be the absolute highlight of System of a Downs career and are complete interchangeable as the three greatest albums by SOAD. I think both the self titled album and Hypnotize have their moments, and have parts that really get you pumped or get the hair on the back of your neck up. However, they just don't seem as well put together as the other three. I don't think any SOAD album is bad, I just think only Mezmerize, Toxicity and Steal This Album are absolutely brilliant.
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I definitely thing self-titled is brilliant. I love that record and give it a spin every now and then.
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I think it's good, possibly great, maybe even brilliant at times, just not on the same level Mezmerize, Toxicity and Steal This Album are.
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Question is the worst song on Mezmerize.
Come at me bro.
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Question is the worst song on Mezmerize.
Come at me bro.
Old School Hollywood would like to smack you in the face with some reality
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Orange froggy cuts in liiiiiiiine
Old school Hollywood washed up Hollywood
Arguing with Jamesman, wasting my time
Old school Hollywood washed up Hollywood
that song kicks ASS
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Question is the worst song on Mezmerize.
Come at me bro.
(https://i.imgur.com/RduSH.gif)
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:rollin
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Vote it up dudes! We're almost at the end :laugh:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=26306.0
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I think that whether or not you like "Old School Hollywood" depends on whether or not you can tolerate Daron's vocals on it. I, personally, cannot, and thus consider it to be the worst song off of 'Mezmerize' solely for that reason. I think that the chorus is terrific, though.
"Question!", I believe, is also one of the weaker points on 'Mezmerize', as it's unfortunately a slightly bland song on what is otherwise a very colourful, memorable album with a lot of character. It's by no means a bad song, but in contrast to the rest of the album, it really does suffer a whole lot.
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Question! is the best ever. It's one of SoaD's most serious songs, in terms of song writing and lyrical content. And dem gallops.
Plus the music video provides for so much win, and I don't normally care about music videos anymore.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Question is the worst song on Mezmerize.
Come at me bro.
Old School Hollywood would like to smack you in the face with some reality
Old School Hollywood is amazing. As for the worst song on Mesmerize, can't really choose.
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The weakest is definitely Lost In Hollywood.
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War? is a fucking amazing song. I love this band.
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The weakest is definitely Lost In Hollywood.
Probably.
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Lost In Hollywood is their best on Mezmorize. Question is bottom 5 for me, doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. Old School Hollywood is a fun song about a baseball game, I especially love the synths indicating 3 strikes your out.
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The weakest is definitely Lost In Hollywood.
WTF is this
Also, not saying I don't like OSH, it is fun for sure, but the rest is better
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It's been ages since I listened to Mezmerize, but if I had to pick a 'weakest' song, I'd probably say Cigaro.
Yeah the lyrics are kinda lol, and it's not a bad song.. but yeah.
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It's been ages since I listened to Mezmerize, but if I had to pick a 'weakest' song, I'd probably say Cigaro.
Yeah the lyrics are kinda lol, and it's not a bad song.. but yeah.
The lyrics are funny but aren't about being silly. Believe it or not, it has meaning to it.
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yeah, and they're pretty obvious. And the middle part of the song that gets really heavy bumps up a few notches for me.
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The weakest is definitely Lost In Hollywood.
WTF is this
Also, not saying I don't like OSH, it is fun for sure, but the rest is better
Whatever man, I keep seeing the opinion that Question is the weakest song, which I strongly disagree with. Imo, Lost In Hollywood is the weakest on the album (great song, but I don't enjoy it as much as the others).
ANYWAYS. FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN INTERESTED AND WAITING!!
the System of a Down survivor that I am running is just finishing up with the self-titled album rounds.
Next I will be running the Toxicity rounds, so pleeeease vote! We need more people in this shindig.
Thanks, yo.
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Well the survivor turned out in my favor (mwuhahaha) anyway the toxicity survivor is now up which is probably the highlight of my week.
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Well the survivor turned out in my favor (mwuhahaha) anyway the toxicity survivor is now up which is probably the highlight of my week.
:heart
With fourteen songs, at two days each.. it'll take more than a week ;)
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Hey I have no problem with a toxicity survivor lasting more than a week
oh also guys check out my solo cover I did of lonely day a couple of weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9RzFy2Rc2M
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It's been ages since I listened to Mezmerize, but if I had to pick a 'weakest' song, I'd probably say Cigaro.
Yeah the lyrics are kinda lol, and it's not a bad song.. but yeah.
Yeah I'd probably agree with that.
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I'm right now obsessed with Question! It's such an amazing song.
Do we dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazing riff*
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I'm right now obsessed with Question! It's such an amazing song.
Do we dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *amazing riff*
x1000000000000000000000000
such a good song
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The vocal harmonies are out of this world. One of the best Daron-Serj blendings.
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Now, fellow SOAD fans, let me share to you Daron's best performance ever
IT'S DDEVIL LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm1zRIG-idk
(2:12)
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That was fuckin' epic
And also question! is amazing.
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Hey guys, just wanted to let ya'll know that the Steal This Album! survivor has just started
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System of a Down rocks my shit. They were my first favorite band. Ah.
I met John, the drummer, at the NAMM show two years ago, and I met Serj in front of some restaurant in Malibu like four years ago. Both guys were ridiculously nice. Daron was the reason I started playing guitar, and now it's my life. I seriously owe System of a Down A LOT. Luckily I was able to tell Serj and John how much System changed my life and how thankful I am for it. :)
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I think I like the debut album now. I originally didn't because it was a bit TOO wacky, whereas the other 4 albums are a more controlled wackiness. But I'm warming up to it.
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I think I like the debut album now. I originally didn't because it was a bit TOO wacky, whereas the other 4 albums are a more controlled wackiness. But I'm warming up to it.
The debut has Spiders so I already like it.
Mesmerize is still my favorite though.
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My ranking :
System Of A Down / Toxicity
Steal This Album
Mezmerize
Hypnotize
SO yeah. IMO - every album they released was of lesser quality than the previous one. First two are classic while Hynotize is dross.
Even their B sides are better than anything on that album.
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System of a Down rocks my shit. They were my first favorite band. Ah.
I met John, the drummer, at the NAMM show two years ago, and I met Serj in front of some restaurant in Malibu like four years ago. Both guys were ridiculously nice. Daron was the reason I started playing guitar, and now it's my life. I seriously owe System of a Down A LOT. Luckily I was able to tell Serj and John how much System changed my life and how thankful I am for it. :)
Daron seems like such a prick. His Napoleon Complex absolutely destroyed the band for me. He played all guitar and bass on the last two albums and did the artwork / produced it and sang way more lead vocals than normal.
Hence - they were dreadful.
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Wait, he played bass on Mezmerize and Hypnotize? You sure about that?
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Absolutely 100%. I thought it was common knowledge.
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........
I'm not falling for this.
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System of a Down rocks my shit. They were my first favorite band. Ah.
I met John, the drummer, at the NAMM show two years ago, and I met Serj in front of some restaurant in Malibu like four years ago. Both guys were ridiculously nice. Daron was the reason I started playing guitar, and now it's my life. I seriously owe System of a Down A LOT. Luckily I was able to tell Serj and John how much System changed my life and how thankful I am for it. :)
Daron seems like such a prick. His Napoleon Complex absolutely destroyed the band for me. He played all guitar and bass on the last two albums and did the artwork / produced it and sang way more lead vocals than normal.
Hence - they were dreadful.
Mezmerize/Hypnotize are my two favorite :B
Daron has a nice voice, and it's great he got to use it more often.
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Well its in various interviews from the time.
Plus it's on Wiki.
Shavo played 1 or 2 songs on each album according to Shavo.
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Hypnotize is like Watered down diet SOAD.
Compared to Toxicity its like a different band.
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It is like a different band but I definitely wouldn't call it watered down.
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I don't really feel like making the long ass post again saying why I think Mezermize/Hypnotize is their best work. So I'll just leave it at they are more polished and focused than previous albums. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik)
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I don't really feel like making the long ass post again saying why I think Mezermize/Hypnotize is their best work. So I'll just leave it at they are more polished and focused than previous albums. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik)
That fits the song so much better than the guy chewing cereal, saved.
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Can someone post the lyrics to interior crocodile alligator, I drive a Chevrolet movie theater?
:rollin :rollin :rollin
Laughed so hard at that comment.
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I don't really feel like making the long ass post again saying why I think Mezermize/Hypnotize is their best work. So I'll just leave it at they are more polished and focused than previous albums. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik)
I enjoy the selftitled album immensly, and I still consider the above albums their best creative work.
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I don't really feel like making the long ass post again saying why I think Mezermize/Hypnotize is their best work. So I'll just leave it at they are more polished and focused than previous albums. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik)
I enjoy the selftitled album immensly, and I still consider the above albums their best creative work.
I have no issue with their first. I love everything the band has done except for one little song that shall go unmentioned.
....
*cough* (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnGdoEa1tPg&ob=av3e)
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Yes. My friend who introduced me to this band long ago (right here in town not even far away at all, right down the street even though he doesn't live there anymore :sadpanda:) loves even this song; I can't understand why or how. It's incomprehensible, even if I view it as a complete joke or parody of something. Either way, I agree, everything else is complete tits.
By the bye, are they still getting back together? Or am I just making that up? I'm pretty sure I heard something like that but it may have just been the tour... :huh:
P.S. :millahhhh for iTunes listing every single song as "Blues".
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Bluescore.
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:metal :millahhhh
and nevermind, Wiki has enlightened me.
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I don't really feel like making the long ass post again saying why I think Mezermize/Hypnotize is their best work. So I'll just leave it at they are more polished and focused than previous albums. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZwhNFOn4ik)
I enjoy the selftitled album immensly, and I still consider the above albums their best creative work.
I have no issue with their first. I love everything the band has done except for one little song that shall go unmentioned.
....
*cough* (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnGdoEa1tPg&ob=av3e)
hey...I like that song too
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:metal :millahhhh
and nevermind, Wiki has enlightened me.
Wiki gave me hope
and I like Lonely Day as well :B
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Hope, indeed! A new one! Fuck Star Wars!
I just don't connect with it despite that I'm probably wa(aaaaaaaaaaaaa)y more lonely than Daron and also despite that I actually love Daron's voice on most tracks, he's way too whiny for my tastes on this track. despite.
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I just threw on Mezmerize because of this thread. I forgot how much I loved the back half of this album. Question!/Sad Statue are so great. I missed listening to this band.
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I love Mezmerize so freaking much. It took some time to grow on me, but I love every song on that album, barring maybe the intro. And yeah, "Question/Sad Statue" might be the high point for me too after all these years.
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Radio/Video and Question are my two favorite tracks
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I love Radio/Video. It has that tinge of progressive flavorings
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My favorite SoaD moment is on Memorize, from Question! to Lost in Hollywood. Such a kickass run, just pure fuck. Even though those aren't my favorite songs, they're up there, but those songs in order change the game completely. Fapfapfapfap
P.S. After watching The Dark Knight, I absolutely cannot get the picture of Batman saying "ANYMORE" when Daron says it in ATWA...
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System of a Down rocks my shit. They were my first favorite band. Ah.
I met John, the drummer, at the NAMM show two years ago, and I met Serj in front of some restaurant in Malibu like four years ago. Both guys were ridiculously nice. Daron was the reason I started playing guitar, and now it's my life. I seriously owe System of a Down A LOT. Luckily I was able to tell Serj and John how much System changed my life and how thankful I am for it. :)
Daron seems like such a prick. His Napoleon Complex absolutely destroyed the band for me. He played all guitar and bass on the last two albums and did the artwork / produced it and sang way more lead vocals than normal.
Hence - they were dreadful.
Well, to be honest, he writes almost all of the music. While all 4 members are pretty incredible, Daron is pretty much why SOAD put out the albums.
And every band evolves, M/H felt like a very logical followup to Toxicity/STA imo. Also, yeah, Daron stepped up more with the singing, but Serj also stepped up by playing instruments on some songs live and giving Daron room to breathe for songs he sang he lead on. I believe they compliment each other very well, and are unique.
I cannot imagine Lost in Hollywood having Serj on vocals and being better. Serj is awesome being in the background for that song, providing some great harmonies and occasional spins to the song.
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Also, giving Mezmerize another listen, fucking amazing album.
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It's been a couple weeks since I gave Mesmerize a complete listen, and as always it's blowing my mind with amazing it is.
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Yeah Question! is basically the best thing SOAD has ever written. And some might remember that Mezmerize is my all time favourite album ever of all time forever.
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fuck you pig
fuck you pig
fuck you pig
fuck you pig
put your hands up, get outta the car
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Goddamn it, I feel like I am rediscovering SOAD all over again after having gone so long without listening to them. Every time I put them on now, it's just pure awesomeness.
Yeah, they're back to being a top 5 band for me. They used to be my favorite for like 5 years. It's hard to argue with a discog of about 6 album's worth of amazingly consistent material of which I don't care too much for very few of their songs (maybe 5 at the most).
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I tend to go a few months without listening to System, then I throw them on and say to myself "Why haven't I listened to them in forever? They're fucking kick ass!" Listening to System is a mix of nostalgia and the feeling of being reunited with a very dear friend that you neglected for far too long.
My favorite System song right now is a toss up between Radio/Video and Mr. Jack. System knows how to jam out and give you some :metal :metal :metal :metal moments, but they also now how to give you some :millahhhh moments in between.
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I only ever heard Toxicity but this page of this thread makes a very strong case that I should listen to Mezmerize as soon as possible!
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I only ever heard Toxicity but this page of this thread makes a very strong case that I should listen to Mezmerize as soon as possible!
Jesus Christ man where have you been? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJhAOsTsLXI)
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I only ever heard Toxicity but this page of this thread makes a very strong case that I should listen to Mezmerize as soon as possible!
Jesus Christ man where have you been? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJhAOsTsLXI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr5ltqQf1QA
*COUGH*
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I only ever heard Toxicity but this page of this thread makes a very strong case that I should listen to Mezmerize as soon as possible!
Jesus Christ man where have you been? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJhAOsTsLXI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr5ltqQf1QA
*COUGH*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI8KacxPovo
*COUGH HACK COUGH*
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I don't think you guys got the subtle humor. Fuckin'. (https://puu.sh/gx14)
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I don't think you guys got the subtle humor. Fuckin'. (https://puu.sh/gx14)
See the damns I give? (https://i42.tinypic.com/1075ifc.jpg)
:P
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Whatevs (https://puu.sh/gx5j)
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Whatevs (https://puu.sh/gx5j)
So I still need to give Toxicity another listen, as it's been a long while since I've listened to it as well, but I just want to keep Mesmerize on infine loop whenever I listen to System of a Down (https://i39.tinypic.com/j5yvr6.jpg)
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Thanks to the resurgence of this thread, I'm giving SOAD a listen for the first time in a... long time, Mezmerize and Hypnotize specifically.
Man, the drop in quality from Mez to Hyp is really quite apparent. Mez is much better than I remember. :metal
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Thanks to the resurgence of this thread, I'm giving SOAD a listen for the first time in a... long time, Mezmerize and Hypnotize specifically.
Man, the drop in quality from Mez to Hyp is really quite apparent. Mez is much better than I remember. :metal
This. Mezmerize was like " hey this is pretty cool ".
Hypnotize was like " Oh........."
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That was my initial to Hypnotize actually. It just felt like it was missing something. I actually felt legitimately empty after my first 5 listens or so. Many years later, I finally LISTENED to the album a lot more and to all the things going on throughout. What really blew my mind were the vocal bits in Dreaming and Stealing Society. You know, the duet harmony stuff. That was when I fell in love with Hypnotize after giving it shit for so long. Now I love (almost) every song on it to death. The only thing that keeps me from loving Hypnotize as much as I love Mezmerize is because Mezmerize is a 5/5 album while Hypnotize is a 4/5 album.
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I just thought it was weak compared to Toxicity.
And i'm not a fan of Daron at all. Why have a lead singer if he pretty much does backing vocals on his own album ?
They might as well have changed their name to System Of A Daron. :p
If they release a 5th album - i'd like a lot more Serj and a new producer.
I've noticed bands that consistently use Rick Rubin make great albums to begin with that take a nosedive in quality the more they do.
( RHCP )
Although I did think it was quite cool that the albums were released seperately and were designed to fit together to make a double album boxset :)
I might have to make a playlist on Spotify of Mez and Hyp and listen to them back to back. . . * goes off to do just that *..
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Daron's dad actually did the artwork - he's a damn good painter.
Steal This Album! is actually my favorite of their albums. It's fucking amazing. Yall should give it another listen if you haven't in a while.
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I like the Knight Rider theme in E I E I O W T F B B Q
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Never cared too much for them tbh, except for one song, "Question!"... THAT's a good song.
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Mezmerize has really been kicking my ass lately. What an album.
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Have any of you been to a concert? I was at SoaD concert last year, in Berlin, and it was easily the best concert I ever was at.
Plus, dredg opened, so that was pretty cool as well. I was kind of bummed that they didn't play Soldier Side, but oh well.
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Yeah I saw them May 2011. Easily in my top 5 favourite concerts ever. Oh man what a show.
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I;ve seen them twice, once as Ozzfest headliners, and them Headlining with Gogol Bordelo opening.
It was amazing, long time fan and both times were beyond good. The latest show being the best as they played more older songs, Suite-pee, Suggestions. They looked like they were really enjoying themselves also, more so than they were on the Ozzfest gig. I would recommend seeing them live at least once.
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Yeah, I really like how they balanced their set. Many bands just play the hits and stuff from the newest album, but with SoaD, there was something for everyone.
What sucked was that they didn't play Roulette, they played it all the shows afterwards, but oh well. And that I lost my watch while in the moshpit. It still rocked, though.
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System of a Down used to be my favorite band back in middle school. I still love them, but now they're one of those bands I don't listen to often. However, when I do suddenly remember they exist I listen to them nonstop for a week.
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SOAD is a big part of my musical life, and a big part of my high school times. Toxicity came out when I started my freshman year, Steal This Album when I was a sophmore, Mezmerize just months before I graduated, and Hypnotize a few months into my first year of college. I went years without listening to them, then I've rediscovered them over the last couple of years and they still kick ass.
Toxicity
Mezmerize
System of a Down
Steal This Album
Hypnotize
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SOAD was my favorite band at one point. I lost interest with Mezmerize and Hypnotize, but those albums have actually grown on me over time. I'm happy they got back together and hope they start making new albums.
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SoaD are my favourite band, and Hypnotize, which many seem to like less than other albums, kicks ungodly amounts of ass. Soldier Side is probably my favourite SoaD tune ever.
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Hypnotize is fantastic yes. It's only brought down by one certain track that I won't point fingers at because that song blows ass.
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Hypnotize is fantastic yes. It's only brought down by one certain track that I won't point fingers at because that song blows ass.
Remember when you hated the title track olol
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Holy Mountains? Because THAT song for sure blows and brings it down
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Holy Mountains? Because THAT song for sure blows and brings it down
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You guys are crazy. :P
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Holy Mountains? Because THAT song for sure blows and brings it down
pls die.
Hypnotize is fantastic yes. It's only brought down by one certain track that I won't point fingers at because that song blows ass.
Remember when you hated the title track olol
LOL
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SoaD are my favourite band, and Hypnotize, which many seem to like less than other albums, kicks ungodly amounts of ass. Soldier Side is probably my favourite SoaD tune ever.
That makes me upset. U-Fig, She's Like Heroin, Vicinity of Obscenity, even Lonely Day are all fantastic.
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As much as I admire Serj and everything he's done in SOAD...I don't like how his vocals have changed over the years.
Self-titled: quirky, kinda cool, some METÖÖÖÖÖL moments.
Toxicity: FUCKING AWESOME!
Steal This Album: FUCKING AWESOME!
Mesmerize/Hypnotize: kinda cool...but not so metal anymore.
Current: singing through his god damn nose all the time! And the more heavy vocals are just about completely gone.
I loved SOAD when I saw them two years ago and thought everybody in the band was awesome...but in hindsight, I'm really not very fond of how he sings nowadays. I deeply respect a singer's ability to learn new things and new vocal styles, but why lose what you already have? It's his current voice that keeps me from getting excited about a possible new record. :-\
Oh well, just about everything the band has put out ranges from good/great to awesome.
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Self Titled : :metal :metal
Toxicity : :metal :metal :metal
Steal This Album : :tup :tup
Mezmerize : :)
Hypnotize : :yeahright
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SoaD are my favourite band, and Hypnotize, which many seem to like less than other albums, kicks ungodly amounts of ass. Soldier Side is probably my favourite SoaD tune ever.
That makes me upset. U-Fig, She's Like Heroin, Vicinity of Obscenity, even Lonely Day are all fantastic.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
:hifive:
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Self Titled : :metal :metal
Toxicity : :metal :metal :metal
Steal This Album : :tup :tup
Mezmerize : :)
Hypnotize : :yeahright
Exactly how I feel.
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SoaD are my favourite band, and Hypnotize, which many seem to like less than other albums, kicks ungodly amounts of ass. Soldier Side is probably my favourite SoaD tune ever.
That makes me upset. U-Fig, She's Like Heroin, Vicinity of Obscenity, even Lonely Day are all fantastic.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
:hifive:
Yup yup. Mezmerize and Hypnotize are two pieces to a whole, the former is more laid back, while the latter is more crazier. Both are their best albums. Hypnotize is my favorite due to it having a blend of all their styles.
I am still wondering why, on the internet only, do people not like Hypnotize?
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Don't hi-five me if you don't like Hypnotize, heathen.
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How is it not the worst SOAD album by a f--in mile ?
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How is it not the worst SOAD album by a f--in mile ?
Uhmmm... because every song on the record is unique and interesting, with the bonus of containing the best that SoaD has ever written (Soldier Side, Dreaming, Hypnotize)?
No, seriously, I doubt that we are going to reach any accord here - I have a very personal relationship with this album that influences my perception of it, without a doubt. Still, I enjoy it more than any other SoaD album out there.
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Fair Enough - i've just always found it to be the weakest.
Especially since it has way too much Daron on it.
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I also think Hypnotize is the worst SOAD album, if you can call it that. I realize now I haven't heard the album in some time, so I think I'll throw it on in my car on the way to work, and I'll let you know if my feelings have changed.
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How is it not the worst SOAD album by a f--in mile ?
Uhmmm... because every song on the record is unique and interesting, with the bonus of containing the best that SoaD has ever written (Soldier Side, Dreaming, Hypnotize)?
No, seriously, I doubt that we are going to reach any accord here - I have a very personal relationship with this album that influences my perception of it, without a doubt. Still, I enjoy it more than any other SoaD album out there.
It has a weird party vibe that is used in contrast with the lyrics. Meaning we're partying as the world is dying. The fact its Daron led doesnt bother me at all. Doesn't bother me its poppy either.
"I'm a midnight. Fist fight"
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Hmm... I guess I like Hypnotize more than Mesmerize. I dislike the last three songs on the latter, while I like every song on Hypnotize. Toxicity is still my favourite though.
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Hmm... I guess I like Hypnotize more than Mesmerize. I dislike the last three songs on the latter, while I like every song on Hypnotize. Toxicity is still my favourite though.
I prefer Hypnotize to Mezmerize too, but I consider Lost In Hollywood to be the best song on Mezmerize other than Radio/Video. What don't you like about that song?
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Daron is a shit singer / guitar player ?
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Hey so I just bought Toxicity. Hell of an album.
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Hey so I just bought Toxicity. Hell of an album.
Why Yes....
Yes it is. :hat
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:hat
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Self Titled : :metal :metal
Toxicity : :metal :metal :metal
Steal This Album : :metal :metal
Mezmerize : :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
Hypnotize : :metal :metal
fix'd
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Self Titled : :metal :metal
Toxicity : :metal :metal :metal
Steal This Album : :metal :metal
Mezmerize : :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
Hypnotize : :metal :metal
fix'd
I approve
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Daron is a shit singer / guitar player ?
Show some respect. Not only to Daron, but to me. I asked for Onno's opinion, not yours.
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I like his voice. :(
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So my opinion on Hypnotize has gone up extremely after giving it a whirl for the first time in ages. I still think it's the weakest of their albums, but it's a great one. There's more Serj than I remember there being.
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So my opinion on Hypnotize has gone up extremely after giving it a whirl for the first time in ages. I still think it's the weakest of their albums, but it's a great one. There's more Serj than I remember there being.
Well, if there's one thing that we can agree on, then it's that even the weakest SoaD album is pretty fucking amazing.
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Self Titled : :metal :metal
Toxicity : :metal :metal :metal
Steal This Album : :metal :metal
Mezmerize : :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal: :2metal:
Hypnotize : :metal :metal :metal
fix'd
I approve
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Hmm... I guess I like Hypnotize more than Mesmerize. I dislike the last three songs on the latter, while I like every song on Hypnotize. Toxicity is still my favourite though.
I prefer Hypnotize to Mezmerize too, but I consider Lost In Hollywood to be the best song on Mezmerize other than Radio/Video. What don't you like about that song?
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that one was so good, lol. Well then, I have to change my statement. I don't really like Sad Statue and Old School Hollywood.
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NECROTHREAD ZOMG
So yeah, repeated listens have reaffirmed the claim that Soldier Side has on the title "best song in all of existence and beyond". It's that good.
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NECROTHREAD ZOMG
So yeah, repeated listens have reaffirmed the claim that Soldier Side has on the title "best song in all of existence and beyond". It's that good.
Do you listen with the intro before.
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NECROTHREAD ZOMG
So yeah, repeated listens have reaffirmed the claim that Soldier Side has on the title "best song in all of existence and beyond". It's that good.
Soldier side is fan-fucking-tastic, and the ultimate closer to Mesmerize/Hypnotize. Really, I think it's a pretty solid send-off for the entire band. Sure, it doesn't have that trademark weirdness to it, but it's easily their most emotional song, and I can't think of a better song they could have ended with.
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NECROTHREAD ZOMG
So yeah, repeated listens have reaffirmed the claim that Soldier Side has on the title "best song in all of existence and beyond". It's that good.
Soldier side is fan-fucking-tastic, and the ultimate closer to Mesmerize/Hypnotize. Really, I think it's a pretty solid send-off for the entire band. Sure, it doesn't have that trademark weirdness to it, but it's easily their most emotional song, and I can't think of a better song they could have ended with.
^that
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Soldier Side gets me wet.
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Once Again :
SOAD / Toxicity
Steal This Album
Mezmerize
Hypnotize.
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Question!-Sad Statue-Old School Hollywood-Lost In Hollywood is still one of my favorite run of songs on any album ever.
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Question!-Sad Statue-Old School Hollywood-Lost In Hollywood is still one of my favorite run of songs on any album ever.
Question! is fucking awesome. Hell, I really can't think of a song on the entire Mesmerize/Hypnotize duo that I don't love.
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Question!-Sad Statue-Old School Hollywood-Lost In Hollywood is still one of my favorite run of songs on any album ever.
Hellz fucking yes. Absolutely love that run. It's amazing and it gets me going every time.
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NECROTHREAD ZOMG
So yeah, repeated listens have reaffirmed the claim that Soldier Side has on the title "best song in all of existence and beyond". It's that good.
Do you listen with the intro before.
No, but I haven't tried it yet, either. It just seems a little redundant, because you get the whole thing that's in the intro at the end of the regular Soldier Side as well.
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Anyone else seeing them tonight at the Hollywood Bowl? I've been waiting for this for over 10 years. System has been one of my favorite bands since I was like 6 years old. My best friend and I obsessed over them when we were growing up, and we always said that we'd see them together one day. He died four years ago and we never got the chance, but I know he'll be there singing along with me tonight. I just wish he could be there in person...
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I'll never get the Hypnotize appreciation.
The debut thru Mezmerize is a pretty good run but the drop off from Mez to Hyp is massive.
I hated Hypnotize instantly and I hate it more every time I hear it.
Not so long ago I listened to Mez and Hyp back to back and it's like night and day to me. ???
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Because Hypnotize is great, catchy and just overall fun.
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I'll never get the Hypnotize appreciation.
The debut thru Mezmerize is a pretty good run but the drop off from Mez to Hyp is massive.
I hated Hypnotize instantly and I hate it more every time I hear it.
Not so long ago I listened to Mez and Hyp back to back and it's like night and day to me. ???
I might be able to address this (though musical taste is subjective, so I've got on illusions on how effective that would be) if you would bring another criticism to the table instead of "just bad" and "I hate it".
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After revisiting Hypnotize recently, I've realized it is my least favorite SoAD album by far. It has a few bottom 10 SoAD tracks like Vicinity of Obscenity, U-Fig and She's Like Heroin (in my opinion of course)... but other than that, I do still enjoy the album.
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I'll never get the Hypnotize appreciation.
The debut thru Mezmerize is a pretty good run but the drop off from Mez to Hyp is massive.
I hated Hypnotize instantly and I hate it more every time I hear it.
Not so long ago I listened to Mez and Hyp back to back and it's like night and day to me. ???
I might be able to address this (though musical taste is subjective, so I've got on illusions on how effective that would be) if you would bring another criticism to the table instead of "just bad" and "I hate it".
Well I feel the songs are lacking in both the lyric and vocal department and that most of the songs are weak overall compared with it's Hypnotize counterpart.
Daron has way too many lead vocals whilst Serj takes a back seat much of the time.
Unlike Reload - It really does sound like Hypntize has all the weaker songs of the two albums. Mezmerize is stronger in every way for me.
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Fair enough! While I feel differently, I can understand that you don't like that Daron takes over so many vocal duties.
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It's not that much though, Serj is still all over the album.
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Yeah, it's pretty equal, fifty/fifty, I'd say. Though I have to say that while I enjoy Serj's voice a little more, Daron's is great as well and the songs that he writes are always a little better than the Serj-penned ones.
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Scars On Broadway VS Elect The Dead disagrees with you.
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In your opinion. I prefer Scars on Broadway to Elect the Dead, which has some good songs, but is largely forgettable, imho, despite Serj's amazing voice.
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I like em both equally the same. I enjoy Darons wackyness and enjoy serjs more serious tone.
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I like em both equally the same. I enjoy Darons wackyness and enjoy serjs more serious toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooone.
Corrected.
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Their voices are great together, I love the things they can do together like in Question!
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Their voices are great together, I love the things they can do together like in Question!
Or Soldier Side, or parts in Lost In Hollywood.
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Their voices are great together, I love the things they can do together like in Question!
Or Soldier Side, or parts in Lost In Hollywood.
"Looking for a mother that will get me high, just a stupid mother fucker if I die, I die."
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At a recent gig, John Dolmayan reportedly told the crowd that they have a new album on the way.
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Well... He told Los Angeles that next time they'll be back with a new album... but for the rest of the year and then some they have European gigs, and Serj has stated it'd be years before he'd even possibly do another album, as he has solo albums planned for the next 7 years :sadpanda:
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It could all be bullshit.
I know some bands like to pretend they're not doing anything then suddenly announce a new album.
Either that or they've ditched Serj and got someone else.
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I wish they would ditch Serj.
Because he seriously does not give a fuck about making a new SoaD album. Since his solo career is doing well enough he plans on just sticking with that.
On a random note, I love Radio/Video so much, but I thought about how awesome it would be to see Devin Townsend and Anneke cover that shit, it kind of gives me a vibe of Devin Townsend anyways, and if you have Devin cover Serj's parts, and Anneke cover Daron's parts, I really think it'd sound radular.
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At a recent gig, John Dolmayan reportedly told the crowd that they have a new album on the way.
I was at that show (Hollywood bowl - a hometown show for them)
He said "Next time we play here (LA), we're gonna have a new fuckin album"
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Their voices are great together, I love the things they can do together like in Question!
Or Soldier Side, or parts in Lost In Hollywood.
Lost in Hollywood, that's one amazing song. System of a Down's music, in spite of being so unconventional, it's incredibly catchy and easy to sing-along.
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SoaD are my favourite band, and Hypnotize, which many seem to like less than other albums, kicks ungodly amounts of ass. Soldier Side is probably my favourite SoaD tune ever.
Yeah it's a great album. I feel that way about STA. I was going to list off all the tunes that I thought kicked tons of ass on it, but realized I was naming almost the entire album. :lol
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In Serj's AMA on Reddit this afternoon, he said that they have no plans on making a new album soon, although he would love to.
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In Serj's AMA on Reddit this afternoon, he said that they have no plans on making a new album soon, although he would love to.
Yeah I saw, unfortunate. :-\
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I don't know what's holding them back, has anyone read something?
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Serj IS what's holding them back. He'd rather spend the next decade making solo records and touring in support of those. He's talked about it in interviews and I wish they would just sack him
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While I did like Elect The Dead, it doesn't really get any play from me anymore. I liked Harakiri as well but I don't think I've listened to that since the month it came out. And Imperfect Harmonies just plain blew. Point is, Serj can do good stuff on his own but so far none of it's had anywhere near the staying power that SOAD does almost a decade after their last release.
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I don't know what's holding them back, has anyone read something?
Serj has only said " when the time is right."
I have seen this before though - Bands all give different answers about making a new album and say they're putting it off etc etc . .
But they've secretly been working on it then they all just announce it.
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Lonely Day is a good song.
Fuck you.
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Yeah? Well fuck you too guy!
Actually, I also like Lonely Day.
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Can we lock this thread and only reopen it when there's news of a new SOAD studio album?
I'm just kidding, of course. But seriously, can we?
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Been listening to Toxicity constantly the past few days. Forgot how much I love this album.
And I definitely would like to catch them on this new tour. They've been on the concert bucket list for quite awhile.
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I guess this is getting revived.
So where do I even begin. My first real obsession with a band. It all started when I overheard my sister listening to Chop Suey probably 10 years ago, never looked into hearing more songs by them at that time. A few years later I googled some of the lyrics and found the song again. Still nothing more happened. Then I heard BYOB and I was hooked. Thus began the process of listening to every album one by one and my passion for SOAD grew with each one. I wish I could remember most things like I do with the lyrics of their songs. I really enjoy their sound and Serj's voice is just so unique and beautiful. Toxicity wins best album for me. So after a rather long period of SOAD obsession Dream Theater made an entrance in my life ~1.5 years ago and System took the back seat. I don't think I could have made a more polar step in my musical preferences.
I am yet to go to a SOAD concert, those look like a ton of fun.
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Yeah, I can confirm that their concerts are amazing. Definitely be on the lookout for tickets if they start touring again, I'd definitely advise you to take the chance to see them whenever you can.
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SOAD = SHIT
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That's certainly a great contribution to the thread :loser:
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Just another trolololler. He'll be gone soon enough. I swear there are more and more these days.
You kids get off my cyber lawn.
I miss SOAD. I'm one of the (seemingly) few that really liked Hyp/Mez.
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SOAD = SHIT
NO U
Amusingly, Slipknot and SOAD co-headlined the Pledge of Allegiance Tour in 2001.
And there's this:
https://www.metalinjection.net/av/system-of-a-down-invite-members-of-slipknot-dillinger-escape-plan-up-to-jam
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I miss SOAD. I'm one of the (seemingly) few that really liked Hyp/Mez.
Hypnotize is Scorp's all-time favorite album I believe (or was it Mezmerize? damnit)
Anyway yea I like a few songs from both (I prefer Mez) but I never 'really liked' the albums, not as much as Toxicity and Steal This Album!
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I miss SOAD. I'm one of the (seemingly) few that really liked Hyp/Mez.
Me too. There used to be a time when I kept spinning these two albums more than anything else in my collection. However, even though I like these two and Toxicity (and SOAD as a whole), I just couldn't get into STA and the debut. I'm not sure why. STA was a tad incoherent, the debut bored me somewhat. Sugar is, however, hilarious. :D
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Yeah, I can confirm that their concerts are amazing. Definitely be on the lookout for tickets if they start touring again, I'd definitely advise you to take the chance to see them whenever you can.
Yeah, I sure will. It's a shame that their last tour was so short and didn't come anywhere near me.
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SOAD = SHIT
Why is that?
I miss the band too. I was quite a big fan of their stuff. Probably not as much now, but I'd definitely look forward to a new release.
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When Mesmerise/Hypnotize first came out, I played them a lot. But after a while, a lot of little things started to rub me the wrong way. Both albums feel too short on their own to me, and too long when put together. Plus, there are a few tracks on both I'm not mad on. I tried for a while to create my ideal version of the two as one album, but never felt happy with it.
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I thought Mezmerize was pretty good but Hypnotize just felt completely bland from start to finish.
Way too much Daron.
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I thought Mezmerize was pretty good but Hypnotize just felt completely bland from start to finish.
Way too much Daron.
This is my opinion exactly too. Mezmerize was almost as good as Toxciticy, but Hypnotize was a bit of a let down. I was pissed at the lack of Serj on that one too.
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Yup, pretty much the same. I think would be perfect for me if it had Innervision and Highway Song in place of Jet Pilot and Shimmy.
What do you guys think of Scars on Broadway. Seeing you don't really like to hear Daron that much. I like some songs on that album.
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I preferred Elect The Dead myself. :)
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What do you guys think of Scars on Broadway. Seeing you don't really like to hear Daron that much. I like some songs on that album.
I don't dislike his voice, but I don't think he's a good lead singer, I assume you know the chorus of Roulette from Steal This Album!, those are the moments I truly enjoy his singing, the high-pitched backing vocals.
Don't know a lot of Scars on Broadway songs, but I remember there was one song on Guitar Hero 5 from them and I thought it was pretty boring.
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I preferred Elect The Dead myself. :)
Yeah, Elect The Dead is great.
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Mezmerize is a favorite of mine, but I find Hypnotize pretty forgettable.
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Mezmerize is a favorite of mine, but I find Hypnotize pretty forgettable.
Yeah it's not like Load & Reload. In SOADs case it does sound like all the worst songs are on the second album ( to me ).
I can't definitively say which I think is better out of Load or Reload. They both have great songs.
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To this day I really like Toxicity, maybe a top 50 album for me, it's heavy, it's weird, it's catchy and it has something that just grabs me.
I wanted to really like all their other stuff and for a while I thought they could hold up, but the more I listened to STA and the debut, the more bland they became and I really couldn't get into Hypnotize/Mezmerise. It seems that everything I liked about Toxicity they left out and everything that annoyed me on Toxicity was used again. It's not a general change in style it's just that those little thigns are missing.
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Toxicity is full of songs that work wonders live.
Deer Dance being of my favorites. So much craziness, passion and power.
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Mezmerize is a top 50 album for me for sure and I really love Hypnotize as well. I like the more melodious and sharp sound of those albums compared to the older material. I loved both Scars on Broadway and Elect the Dead (especially EtD!) too.
Too bad that Serj took an interest in other musical directions and Daron is not productive at all, really. I wonder what happened to the second Scars on Broadway album (I remember there even being a teaser/single?). It was good hearing Daron on Linkin Park's Rebellion with some SOAD-eque vocal harmonies, at least.
Every time I see a SOAD thread I can't help being dissapointed there is no new material on the way. For older artists I wouldn't mind, but I feel these guys stopped way too soon.
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Oh yeah that Scars On Broadway single that was just the word FUCK.
Another reason why I hated Daron.
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I liked Chemicals, Universe, Babylon
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Babylon, World Long Gone, Insane and They Say are the ones I like from the album. The rest are kinda meh, there are still some cool moments.
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While most people rate Mezmerize a lot higher than Hypnotize, Hpynotize has - for quite a while - been my favourite album of all time, so I obviously am not part of these people.
Mezmerize is still awesome though.
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All of their albums are gold. My favorite band.
Hypnotize has a couple meh tracks toward the end, but otherwise every song (including unreleased/non-album) is amazing.
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Mezmerize (that's the first one of the dual albums, right?) is one of my favorite albums of all time, and Toxicity is nearly right there with it. I enjoy Elct the Dead a lot, and I like parts of Serj's third album. The second one he did in 2010 was bland bland bland, though. None of them come close to the SOAD stuff though.
It's funny that for all the "Tool never releasing a new album" jokes, we've gone without a new SOAD a bit longer. I do miss hearing new things from them, but I don't mind if they never do a new studio release again. The run they had was really satisfying.
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Toxicity
Mezmerize (all of them solid imo)
Hypnotize
Steal this Album! (The leftovers from the Toxicity sessions, their weakest)
Never heard the debut (though i know the praise for it).
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Mezmerize is a favorite of mine, but I find Hypnotize pretty forgettable.
Yeah it's not like Load & Reload. In SOADs case it does sound like all the worst songs are on the second album ( to me ).
I can't definitively say which I think is better out of Load or Reload. They both have great songs.
For me, it's almost the exact opposite. Reload has like two songs worth anyone's time. Both Mesmerise and Hypnotize are about half mediocre to bad, half great.
It's funny that for all the "Tool never releasing a new album" jokes, we've gone without a new SOAD a bit longer. I do miss hearing new things from them, but I don't mind if they never do a new studio release again. The run they had was really satisfying.
SOAD stated they were on hiatus though, and even now that they're touring occasionally again, they've never given the impression we should expect anything, or have they?
This thread has inspired to try again with the Mesmerise/Hypnotize mix. This is what I've come up with this time around:
Attack
BYOB
Dreaming
Holy Mountains
Vicinity of Obscenity
Cigaro
Radio/Video
Hypnotize
Question!
Sad Statue
Lost in Hollywood
Soldier Side
12 tracks, 45 minutes.
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Reload only has two good songs ?
Devil's Dance
Carpe Diem Baby
Where The Wild Things Are
Fixxxer
It has those 4 for starters.
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I'm a fan of the singles. TMR and U2 especially and Fuel's a cool rocker too.
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I'm a fan of the singles. TMR and U2 especially and Fuel's a cool rocker too.
Yep, same here, though TMR not as much as the other two. Load on the other hand, I like way more.
Oh, right SOAD thread, not metallica.
This thread has inspired to try again with the Mesmerise/Hypnotize mix. This is what I've come up with this time around:
Attack
BYOB
Dreaming
Holy Mountains
Vicinity of Obscenity
Cigaro
Radio/Video
Hypnotize
Question!
Sad Statue
Lost in Hollywood
Soldier Side
12 tracks, 45 minutes.
That's a solid album, has all my favorites from both albums so I would probably like this way more than any of the separate albums.
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Here's my Mezmerize/Hypnotize playlist.
01- Soldier Side: Intro
02- BYOB
03- Revenga
04- Cigaro
05- Hypnotize
06- Radio/Video
07- This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song
08- Violent Pornography
09- Question!
10- Sad Statue
11- Lonely Day
12- Soldier Side
Total runtime is 34 minutes. As you can see, I much prefer Mezmerize over Hypnotize. I really only included Lonely Day for the segue into Soldier Side but it's a decent song anyway. To me, Mezmerize is full of great songs besides the last two which I omitted while Hypnotize is full of mediocre songs besides the three included.
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Reload only has two good songs ?
Devil's Dance
Carpe Diem Baby
Where The Wild Things Are
Fixxxer
It has those 4 for starters.
Fixxxer is dull. Just because it’s long, doesn’t mean it’s good. Carpe Diem is okay, but not worth going back to all that often. I just remember WTWTA being one in a line of plodding, boring, vaguely mid-tempo rock songs. The only tracks I care for are Memory Remains, Devil’s Dance, and Low Man’s Lyric (and even that is too long for its own good).
I made a Load/Reload mix a while ago. Those three and I think 7 tracks from Load. First track: Memory Remains. I found the tone of the album, and with it my perception of that song, changed a lot with that as the first track, ending on that weird haunting Marianne Faithful outro, as opposed to some swill like Fuel or Ain’t My Bitch.
Holy Mountains is another song that benefits massively from changes to the setlist. I liked it on Hypnotize, but wasn’t hugely keen. I now think most of that comes from the fact that it’s the longest song and it comes after Stealing Society, Tentative, and U-Fig, all of which are pretty mediocre, so you’re already feeling a bad mid-album fatigue before it even starts. Which is why on my Mesmerize/Hypnotize mix, I put it earlier in the album, after an opening trio of full-on tracks. Even providing a comedown of sorts from those, it still has twice the energy it did on the original album.
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Total runtime is 34 minutes.
I thought Mesmerise was already too short as it was. And you just cut another two minutes. :lol
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https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/11/system-of-a-down-confirm-theyre-working-on-a-new-album-which-could-see-release-next-year/
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:metal
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That was shot down by Serj as usual.
He said they're gonna decide whether it's worth doing an album with the material they have.
" If we do - great, if we don't also great. "
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Which doesn't contradict what is said in the article. The drummer's tone is more or less the same. "We're working on music, but it has to be awesome before we're gonna put it out".
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I still remember this curious outburst from Shavo: https://loudwire.com/system-of-a-down-shavo-odadjian-calls-out-singer-serj-tankian/ (https://loudwire.com/system-of-a-down-shavo-odadjian-calls-out-singer-serj-tankian/)
Mike Portnoy ain't got nothing on Shavo, that's for sure.
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"i want the fans from all over the world including Brazil to tell us what they think."
:lol
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Ugh, I'll believe it when I hear it. But them admitting to working on new music is still an exciting thing.
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So... who will release their new album first? System of a Down or Tool? THE RACE IS ON!
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So... who will release their new album first? System of a Down or Tool? THE RACE IS ON!
I would go with System. At least they came out and said they have been working on an album and have stuff written.
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Well, the drummer has doubled down recently in an interview: https://loudwire.com/system-of-a-down-john-dolmayan-progress-on-sixth-album-disheartening/ (https://loudwire.com/system-of-a-down-john-dolmayan-progress-on-sixth-album-disheartening/). Obviously I don't think he makes this up, so I am expecting a new album next year or something like that, especially since they are fairly active in touring over the past couple of years as headliners or subheadliners of festivals. You don't go into the studio, record about 15 songs, and do nothing with it, right?!
Furthermore, I have seen them live for the first time the past weekend, at the festival Pinkpop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq9ZfDzJMDg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq9ZfDzJMDg) (full 1 hour show, pro shot).
It was a blast! Sure, Serj doesn't have any grit in his voice anymore, but I still like the tone of his voice and, when actually there, the vocals had a bit more of a punch than in this video (and he got better during the show, Suitee Pie was the low point). Daron sounds great, but does sing off key here and there. But overall the band performed really well. Especially the crowd was really into it, especially the second half. You don't really see it in the footage, but there were even people in the back forming small pits and losing their minds, it was fun :metal. I also love that artists Seasick Steve and Rag N Bone Man are chilling in front of the crowd, enjoying the show with them. If they have a full club show here in the Netherlands, I will be there without a doubt.
Also, Serj made an guest appearance at Prophets of Rage to perform an Audioslave song in honor of Chris Cornell, but I couldn't make it to that show (shame, everybody was really enthousiastic about that performance). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4LLqxoq-J0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4LLqxoq-J0)
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bump.
here's a new, cool little feature bio documentary on Serj Tankian some may enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwUjQebcTRg
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bump.
SOAD on the Wedding playlist?
https://twitter.com/William_Njo/status/1273970743001395200
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So - System Of A Down have two new songs out. .
1. Protect The Land - this one just sounds like literally no time has passed since Hypnotize. Depending on your thoughts on that album this is either good news or bad news.
It's SOAD by numbers really. Daron does co-lead for the entire song as usual - which is really annoying. He harmonises well with Serj but Serj is the lead singer. Daron needs to shut up a bit.
It's not called System of a Daron.
2. Genocidal Humanoidz - this one is a lot better. It sounds more like the Self titled debut. That wackiness is there - but it doesn't sound like them 'trying' to be wacky like on the
final two albums. Notably they're back in Drop C tuning rather than Db. Which I think suits them more.
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Wait, what?
I like both songs, second one is better. I am a fan of Hyptotize btw. And there aren't a lot of albums like that out there so I am completely fine with their style being like that.
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In my view - their albums get incrementally weaker over time.
System Of A Down √√√√
Toxicity √√√√
Steal This Album! √√√
Mezmerize √√√
Hypnotize √√
The first Scars on Broadway sounded like SOAD leftovers and i've not listened to all of Serj's solo stuff.
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In my view - their albums get incrementally weaker over time.
System Of A Down √√√√
Toxicity √√√√
Steal This Album! √√√
Mezmerize √√√
Hypnotize √√
The first Scars on Broadway sounded like SOAD leftovers and i've not listened to all of Serj's solo stuff.
what rating would you give their last two to date if they were combined? (they are one thing to me. I don't know why they split them.)
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My top 3 are Toxicity, Mezmerize and Hypnotize, all great albums (the other two are also good, just not as much).
Of the two new songs, one is Toxicity-ish in style and the other is M/H in style and the quality is high in both, so I'm digging them.
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:lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNdYf8Rk/20201106-110752.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVJLprbh)
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In my view - their albums get incrementally weaker over time.
System Of A Down √√√√
Toxicity √√√√
Steal This Album! √√√
Mezmerize √√√
Hypnotize √√
The first Scars on Broadway sounded like SOAD leftovers and i've not listened to all of Serj's solo stuff.
For me it actually is flipped around, with the exception of Mezmerize, which is at the top. I like the first Scars, but it ranks lower for me than any SOAD album The first Serj solo album ranks above the SOAD debut for me, didn't really dig his other solo material but Serj's music is often quite different from SOAD, I feel.
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For me:
Toxicity
Hypnotize
Mesmerize
System of a Down
Steal This Album!
They're all good though. With the new tracks, I preferred Protect the Land after one listen of each.
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Album ranking:
Toxicity
Mesmerize
System of a Down
Steal This Album
Hypnotize
I’ll have to listen to the new songs on my way home from work. I work in a school for developmentally disabled adults so I definitely can’t listen to it here.
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In my view - their albums get incrementally weaker over time.
System Of A Down √√√√
Toxicity √√√√
Steal This Album! √√√
Mezmerize √√√
Hypnotize √√
The first Scars on Broadway sounded like SOAD leftovers and i've not listened to all of Serj's solo stuff.
what rating would you give their last two to date if they were combined? (they are one thing to me. I don't know why they split them.)
So they can do the awesome Slipcase Combination... :biggrin:
Mezmerize/Hypnotize is their best album. But, that might be because I like how they use the pop elements to tell how all this is treated like one big party. How it begins with Soldier Side, and ends with the seriousness of Soldier Side.
The two songs are pretty good.
But remember, these songs were made for fundraising for the Armenians.
Mezmorize/Hypnotize
Steal This Album
Toxicity
Self-Titled
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Really stoked for those of you who are SoaD fans. I'm not, but to have such a long break, and then boom, two new songs from them, it must be a really special day. Happy for you all. :metal :metal
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They set up a bandcamp for those of us that want uncompressed! Buying now.
https://systemofadown.bandcamp.com/
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Great news, I liked the second song more than the first one.
Toxicity
Steal This Album
System of a Down
Mezmerize
Hypnotize
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First song sounded like Daron's side project stuff.
2nd song felt more like a SoaD song.
Cautiously excited.
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First song sounded like Daron's side project stuff.
2nd song felt more like a SoaD song.
Cautiously excited.
Daron's FB page mentioned that these songs were originally meant for the next Scars on Broadway album, so that checks out.
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I haven't really listened to Scars on Broadway but I did enjoy some of Serj's solo work. Though nothing compares when they play together. Daron's tone and serj's unique voice just work together.
I know they kinda threw these together for a special cause and I do intend to buy the tracks to support them and I might make a separate donation to the charity. In any case I hope this turns out the be the catalyst for them to finally settle the issues they may have and get an album going.
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If you buy through Bandcamp, that is actually where they are sort of handling the donation thing. Since Bandcamp has a name your own price option, I threw an extra few bucks their way.
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I found that a lot of times when bands prevaricate about whether theyre still together or theyre coming back or if an album is on the way blah blah...
Sometimes it means they've been recording in utter secrecy and then they suddenly put out an album from nowhere.
We shall see. i'd listen to it - even though they still sound the exact same as they did 15 years ago.
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I found that a lot of times when bands prevaricate about whether theyre still together or theyre coming back or if an album is on the way blah blah...
Sometimes it means they've been recording in utter secrecy and then they suddenly put out an album from nowhere.
We shall see. i'd listen to it - even though they still sound the exact same as they did 15 years ago.
the lastest Scars On Broadway album, I can imagine System doing those songs. The system sound is there, and just needs Serjs vocals added. I remember John toured with Daron when he went on tour for Scars on Broadways first album.
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I know everyone thinks it's Serj who won't commit...
But I've never liked Daron. He has a Napoleon Complex.
His presence from the first album to Hypnotize was guitar and very occasional backing vocals...
to...
Guitar, All Co-Lead Vocals and occasional lead vocals. Production. Album artwork...
Plus a song on the first Scars album was just called FUCK.
::)
I used to joke that he was this close to naming the band
System Of A Daron.
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Serj has been very open in the press about why there is no album. He openly admits that he can't get along with Daron in the studio. Serj will bring a song in and then Daron will get his hands on it and change it to the point that Serj gets pissed.
In my opinion, the issue is entirely Daron and his Napoleon complex. He has to touch everything.
Ah, I found Serj's statement on the whole thing, if you haven't seen it:
https://metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/serj-tankian-issues-lengthy-statement-on-holding-up-new-system-of-a-down
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I think it's honestly quite normal with many bands and probably one of the biggest reasons why so many bands split. Once you hit fame and success and everyone's egos are starting to grow, everyone wants to have more of a key role and everyone has different ideas as for what makes the band special. I think the first Scars album is better than anything Serj has done since he left to do solo stuff but we've gone 15 years since Mezmerize/Hypnotize and even though those albums have their issues, nothing any of the members have done since has reached that level.
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Plus a song on the first Scars album was just called FUCK.
That's just false. There is a song called Fuck and Kill on Dictator, their 2nd album.
The only song that is anything like that on Scars on Broadways Debut album is Whoring Streets, because Whoring had to be edited out on the cd.
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I'm sure they did have a song called that. Maybe it was a non-album song or something. **
Anyway - regarding in-band fighting...
U2 have been the same four guys since 1976 and they split everything 25%.
Probably why.
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" 2010 "Fucking" — — — — non-album single " < - - -from Wikipedia.
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Serj has been very open in the press about why there is no album. He openly admits that he can't get along with Daron in the studio. Serj will bring a song in and then Daron will get his hands on it and change it to the point that Serj gets pissed.
In my opinion, the issue is entirely Daron and his Napoleon complex. He has to touch everything.
Ah, I found Serj's statement on the whole thing, if you haven't seen it:
https://metalinjection.net/shocking-revelations/serj-tankian-issues-lengthy-statement-on-holding-up-new-system-of-a-down
Man, now I want to know how Shavo and John feel about this. It's like they're there, wondering what the fuck, and telling Serj, come one bro, we both agreed, it's just you. And Serj, has it in his heart, to stand his ground with his ideals and reasons, and that's a damn good reason to not want to be in the band. I don't blame him or Daron. A band can only work when everyone agrees, and compromises are made. And sometimes, it's impossible for that to happen, and band members leave due to "creative differences".
I find it great that Serj went in depth into what his reasons were. And it's more to do with business than the creative side.
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I think there's two sides to every coin though. On one hand I sympathize with Serj because the thought of a musician bringing songs to the band only to have them shut down or altered to the point where it's not what you brought in - that sucks. But I've also heard his 100% pure vision with some of his solo albums which didn't leave that much of a mark on me either. I think sometimes you need that input from the others to turn it into something great. I'm sure Daron's control traits worked well for them on the albums they did put out and unfortunately it grew out of control.
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I don't know why the 6 songs each plus whatever Shavo has and vote on the x best songs wouldn't work.
Even if you selfishly choose your 6 own songs thats still 18 potential songs for an album.
Jam them with an outside producer listening in commenting on them.
That way nobody in the band is saying ' drop this - change this ' etc.
And not a lie on the couch doing fuck all and take all the credit producer like Rick RUIN
An actual producer who will tell them their shit stinks like Bob Rock.
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I think there's two sides to every coin though. On one hand I sympathize with Serj because the thought of a musician bringing songs to the band only to have them shut down or altered to the point where it's not what you brought in - that sucks. But I've also heard his 100% pure vision with some of his solo albums which didn't leave that much of a mark on me either. I think sometimes you need that input from the others to turn it into something great. I'm sure Daron's control traits worked well for them on the albums they did put out and unfortunately it grew out of control.
Yeah there is. and there is the outside view as well. Which is John and Shavo. I feel more sympathy for them as they're the ones who are taking the fall, they just want to play.
I agree with you about Serj too. But, if has a certain way he wants his "Art" to sound, then he should try and compose songs he can let Daron mess with. Daron, could also let Serj take control of how he wants his songs to go...
I don't know why the 6 songs each plus whatever Shavo has and vote on the x best songs wouldn't work.
Even if you selfishly choose your 6 own songs thats still 18 potential songs for an album.
Jam them with an outside producer listening in commenting on them.
That way nobody in the band is saying ' drop this - change this ' etc.
And not a lie on the couch doing fuck all and take all the credit producer like Rick RUIN
An actual producer who will tell them their shit stinks like Bob Rock.
:lol
I agree with this...
It's all just a clash of two massive Egos.
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I honestly do not expect a new album at this point. The reasons for these new songs are clear, they want to raise money for something important.
And it is not like the guys haven't been together, they have been actively touring for years, prior to those interviews and after those interviews. So this isn't like with some other bands, where it is like a reunion that might lead to more or something.
But hey, maybe the positive reactions might push them to reconsider. I am not getting my hopes up, however.
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I'm over it already. We got two new songs, both just OK, what more can we expect after 15 years? Glad we got what we got.
I'm old school with System anyway. First 2-3 albums are the best.
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Yeah I was over them when Hypnotize came out and it was watered down SOAD.
Each album they did was progressively less aggressive and less 'wacky'
MezMerize was alright but I felt that Hypnotize was them TRYING to be the same level of wacky that the debut was - and failing.
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Yeah I was over them when Hypnotize came out and it was watered down SOAD.
Each album they did was progressively less aggressive and less 'wacky'
MezMerize was alright but I felt that Hypnotize was them TRYING to be the same level of wacky that the debut was - and failing.
They got less heavy and more melodic, but less wacky is not how I'd personally describe most of Mezmerize and Hypnotize. Not compared to Steal or Toxicity anyways, I have never listened to their debut all that much.
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Unlike Load and Reload which will be debated to death -
I think we can all agree that Mazmerize was the better of the two ?
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I do find it interesting that after 15 years - the two new songs sound identical to SOAD - on a production level.
Usually when bands take ages to make a new album - sonically it sounds completely different.
Protect Tha Land literally could have been recorded for Hypnotize. .
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Unlike Load and Reload which will be debated to death -
I think we can all agree that Mazmerize was the better of the two ?
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I do find it interesting that after 15 years - the two new songs sound identical to SOAD - on a production level.
Usually when bands take ages to make a new album - sonically it sounds completely different.
Protect Tha Land literally could have been recorded for Hypnotize. .
I do agree Mezmerize is better. But Mezmerize is probably a top 10 of all time album for me personally, so most albums will lose that match for me. And I also agree the new songs sonically sound close to their 2005 output, which is a positive for me.
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I'll admit, I listened to the shit out of Mezmerize when it came out, and I think it's a good album, whereas I disliked Hypnotize right away and have never warmed up to it since. I liked Mezmerize/Hypnotize less and less when Scars On Broadway came out, as it made me realize more that M/H were Daron dominated. I love his guitar riff sound especially on Toxicity, I mean, I consider it a top 5 metal album for a reason. But Serj is the lead singer, sorry.
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Mezmerize is probably better but Hypnotize more interesting. Is the Load/Reload debate really a thing though? Don't know anyone who prefers Reload to Load.
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I love both Hypnotize and Mezmerize. I consider them 1 album, which they are, when you consider the album packaging. I personally prefer Hypnotize over Mezmerize. The meanings and lyrics on Hypnotize hit more for me, mainly Tentative, Holy Mountains, Dreaming, Hypnotize, Soldier Side, pretty much the entire side of Hypnotize, except Stealing Society, not really into Ramones style punk.
I combined the songs into one album playlist and this is what I came up with...
Soldier Side - Intro
Attack
B.Y.O.B
Revenga
Dreaming
Cigaro
Kill Rock N Roll
Radio/Video
Hypnotize
This Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song
Stealing Society
Violent Pornography
Tentative
U-Fig
Holy Mountains
Question!
Sad Statue
Old School Hollywood
Vicinity of Obscenity
She's Like Heroin
Lost In Hollywood
Lonely Day (This would be switched with Lost In Hollywood, but it has the Soldier Side intro ending tacked on, and it goes into Soldier Side, or else it'd be before Lost In Hollywood)
Soldier Side
The way I see the differences in Mezmerize and Hypnotize is Mezmerize is more propaganda with B.Y.O.B being the main lyrical meaning of the album "Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time." While Hypnotize is the one with the truth songs, like What is really behind the illusion of the party in the desert. Mezmerize the propaganda, This is what they Hypnotized you from.
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Mezmerize is probably better but Hypnotize more interesting. Is the Load/Reload debate really a thing though? Don't know anyone who prefers Reload to Load.
Maybe not outright - but whenever there's a wot if load and relod were 1 abum ? thread - everyones best songs are always different.
There's no consensus on which are the best of the 27 songs.
Personally I think Load has a great first half and Reload has a great 2nd half. Plus i think Reload's weakest songs are
still better than Load's weakest songs. :) I just think Reload is more interesting overall.
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Mezmerize is probably better but Hypnotize more interesting. Is the Load/Reload debate really a thing though? Don't know anyone who prefers Reload to Load.
Maybe not outright - but whenever there's a wot if load and relod were 1 abum ? thread - everyones best songs are always different.
There's no consensus on which are the best of the 27 songs.
Personally I think Load has a great first half and Reload has a great 2nd half. Plus i think Reload's weakest songs are
still better than Load's weakest songs. :) I just think Reload is more interesting overall.
That's pretty much how I feel about Hypnotize... :biggrin:
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:angry: WELL YOURE A SILLY WOTSIT !!!
Nah it's all good. ;D
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Late to the ratings party, but here we go:
1. Toxicity
2. Mezmerize
3. Steal This Album
4. Hypnotize
5. System of a Down
I'm listening to Steal This Album now, and it could be #2 to be fair, it's great!
Oh yeah, also new songs were fine but nothing to get excited about.
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When I was at the height of my SOAD fandom days I could never quite get into the debut. Maybe if I revisited the albums today I'd have a different outlook on it but back then it was a step below the rest. Toxicity/Steal This Album were probably the best but Mezmerize and Hypnotize were 'hot' at the time.
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This is probably rumour / urban legend...
But I seem to remember reading that Steal This Album! was intended to be the third studio album proper but because it leaked
they just threw it out as a kind of 'rarities' slap dash release hence the DIY kinda artwork.
Not sure if that's true or not.
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From what I remember, SOAD was one of the most torrented/downloaded bands at the time and I believe Toxicity was one of those frequent albums that everyone pirated. And Steal This Album (both artwork and title) was a knock on that basically. I might be wrong.
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Yes, SOAD was one of the most Torrented/Downloaded because they had a lot of demoes that were going around. I believe what SOAD did was gather the most popular demoes, the ones most downloaded, and Recorded them with better production and released as Steal This Album as a poke at the Illegal Downloading Fiasco, and as a nod to "Steal This Book". It was released with a limited edition with 4 styles of different art for the CD Disc, I bought one of those, unknown to me, I unfortunately lost it with a couple other cds.
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So Serj Tankian released a new single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYkjQr3s5c
I like it.
I actually bought Elect The Dead when it came out after hearing Empty Walls. I remember liking it but it's easily been 10 years since I have listened to it. Might have to change that.
And BTW, a guy at work gave me copies of a few SOAD CD's many (15ish) years ago. Not for me, but I did like the Serj album.
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So Serj Tankian released a new single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYkjQr3s5c
I like it.
I actually bought Elect The Dead when it came out after hearing Empty Walls. I remember liking it but it's easily been 10 years since I have listened to it. Might have to change that.
And BTW, a guy at work gave me copies of a few SOAD CD's many (15ish) years ago. Not for me, but I did like the Serj album.
TAC, that single, How Many Times, is from the 5 song EP Elasticity that was released a couple of months ago. I’ve been listening to the EP a lot. Your Mom is probably the strongest song on there, if you care to check that one out. Though it is the most SOAD-like of all the songs so perhaps not to your taste.
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So Serj Tankian released a new single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYkjQr3s5c
I like it.
I actually bought Elect The Dead when it came out after hearing Empty Walls. I remember liking it but it's easily been 10 years since I have listened to it. Might have to change that.
And BTW, a guy at work gave me copies of a few SOAD CD's many (15ish) years ago. Not for me, but I did like the Serj album.
Your Mom is probably the strongest song on there.....
I thought you were making a joke about TAC's mom for a second there :biggrin:
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So Serj Tankian released a new single.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLYkjQr3s5c
I like it.
I actually bought Elect The Dead when it came out after hearing Empty Walls. I remember liking it but it's easily been 10 years since I have listened to it. Might have to change that.
And BTW, a guy at work gave me copies of a few SOAD CD's many (15ish) years ago. Not for me, but I did like the Serj album.
Your Mom is probably the strongest song on there.....
I thought you were making a joke about TAC's mom for a second there :biggrin:
:lol
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:lol :lol
Zoom, I’ll check it out.
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Tour with Faith No More and Russian Circles
https://systemofadown.com/tour/
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Russian Circles :metal
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Lolz. No new album in 16 years but keep seeing us live and giving us your money.
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I mean it works for plenty of other bands. :lol
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I mean it works for plenty of other bands. :lol
Yeah, no difference to what bands like Guns n Roses and Motley Crue is doing. SOAD is a "younger" band though. It's all sad that these people hate other internally that they cannot find the joy of making new music together that's worthwhile.
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I suppose yeah. Though it does make me realize that the band's last two albums are going to be 20 in a few years time. :eek
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I enjoyed Mezmerize. Hypnotize less so. The two new songs they recently put out were like their best work again. It's a shame they can't make another album. But also after 15 years - they
still sounded EXACTLY the same on the new songs - as good as they are.
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I wanted to post this in the Queen discography thread, but since it's a performance of a song that's not been covered yet in the thread, I thought this was the safer thread to mention it. Here's a video of Serj Tankian and Jeff Scott Soto singing The Show Must Go On with Brian May at a Science event in Armenia. Serj sang really well in his parts, I think.
Serj Tankian & Brian May - The Show Most Go On (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_h4ujmoTCQ)
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I was playing a Metal music based videogame and it has a climax track in the form of a banger of a metal song with Serj on vocals:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyPO_tR540 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyPO_tR540)
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I was playing a Metal music based videogame and it has a climax track in the form of a banger of a metal song with Serj on vocals:
Metal: Hellsinger — No Tomorrow ft. Serj Tankian from System of a Down (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVyPO_tR540)
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