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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: KevShmev on November 02, 2012, 12:08:20 PM
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Time for another...
70s Led Zeppelin vs 80s Rush
70s Led Zeppelin
Led Zeppelin III
Led Zeppelin IV
Houses of the Holy
Physical Graffiti
Presence
In Through the Out Door
80s Rush
Permanent Waves
Moving Pictures
Signals
Grace Under Pressure
Power Windows
Hold Your Fire
Presto
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Anyone who knows me knows my answer to this. I love Zeppelin, but the 80s is my favorite decade of Rush, my favorite band ever, so, yeah. :hat
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Easily 80s Rush. Never been a LedZep fan.
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Except for 90s Rush, any other Rush is better that Zep. I still love Zep though
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I prefer Rush. They just hold more interest for me.
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Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush Rush
you could include I and II (my fave) and the answer still doesn't change for me
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I forget that 80's Rush technically includes Permaneny Waves and Moving Pictures. To me, Rush wins on Moving Pictures
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but the 80s is my favorite decade of Rush
:|
Late 70s/Early 80s Rush kills about anyone, but 80s Rush is just.... meh.
This isn't a good split for LZ either as it leaves out I and II, and I don't care for their later material.
Honestly, I am probably not a big enough fan of either to vote :lol
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Rush.
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4 symbols
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Led Zeppelin definitely.
I've always liked Rush but have never loved them, my dad is a huge fan of both, and he always played both around me, I have Led Zeppelin III and IV on vinyl(from my dad) and both are two of my most played.
Going To California is also undoubtedly one of the most beautiful songs ever.
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Rush. Hands down. Feet down too.
-Marc.
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Rush
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I think Rush will win by a landslide here, but for me it's Led Zep since I really don't like many of those Rush albums other than Moving Pictures
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While I love Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves and Grace Under Pressure, there is NO denying the impact that Led Zeppelin had on rock music in the 70s.
Easy Zep vote for me.
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I really enjoy Rush's 80's period, especially Power Windows, so yeah, that.
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My dad chose Rush.
Dad and son disagree! :lol
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I swear, you made this one to torture me. However, as close as it is, there is only one choice for me. Anyone who knows me knows my answer too.
Since I got this 22 years ago.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6530604703_ee1ce077f6_m.jpg)
And got this one almost a year ago:
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6225/6396359659_071cee74d6_m.jpg)
My vote goes to the gods of rock and roll. You figure it out.
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Wow, you know the thread is serious when a guy has to choose between ARMS!
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Wow, you know the thread is serious when a guy has to choose between ARMS!
No kidding. But, I knew he was gonna go with Zep.
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80s Rush, but this was a very close one. *shakes fist* SHMEEEEEV!
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*shakes fist* SHMEEEEEV!
I think he does this on purpose. :lol
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Zeppelin by a wide margin.
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Rush easily. The only album not 4 stars or higher on that list IMO is Presto. For Led Zeppelin, Presence and In Through the Out Door are very lacking for me, although some are pretty amazing.
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Zeppelin
If this was 70's Rush versus 70's Zep it would've been much, much harder.
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Led Zeppelin. I expect 80s Rush to win, remembering how often they won the Album of the Year polls around here, but c'mon, it's fucking Led Zeppelin. :lol
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Never found Zep to be all that great, and even if I did we still know what my answer would be.
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Zep, easily.
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*shakes fist* SHMEEEEEV!
I think he does this on purpose. :lol
Um, I, er, do not. :biggrin:
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*shakes fist* SHMEEEEEV!
I think he does this on purpose. :lol
Um, I, er, do not. :biggrin:
I read that in John F. Kennedy's voice. (or maybe it was Mayor Quimby, I don't know, I confuse them in the moment)
*shakes fist* SHMEEEEEV!
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Wow, you know the thread is serious when a guy has to choose between ARMS!
:rollin
This one is a toughie, but I think Rush was just a bigger part of my life. All respect to the godfathers of rock though.
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Rush of the 80s is slightly better, I also prefer that decade of theirs. I love Zeppelin of the 70s as well, though, but six of those Rush albums are 9/10 or above, while Zepp was dragged down by Physical graffiti and Presence - both good albums, but not good enough for comparison.
This was extremely tough, Kev, you paired two of my top 5 bands. Can't wait to see what are you gonna come up with next. :smiley:
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Um, I, er, do not. :biggrin:
LIES! :lol
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I'm actually shocked at how close this is - and that it's a closer race than the Floyd/Maiden thread.
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I can't belive that non-prog era Rush have won against classic Zep. It seems that Rush is the most worshipped band on this board. :biggrin:
In this poll my pick is Zep by far. Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures are really great Rush albums, but 70's Zep have 4 remarkable albums in row: Zep III, ZOSO, Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti - that's enough to blow 80's Rush output away.
For me 70's Rush vs 70's Zep would be a much closer contest, but Zep would win again.
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I missed this poll.
70s Zep
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70s Led, easily.
70s Rush is much better than 80s Rush.
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I can't belive that non-prog era Rush have won against classic Zep.
Why?
For one, two of LZ's best albums are from the 60's and thus are not a factor in this poll, and for two, this is not a prog snobbery forum, so it doesn't phase most that the majority of Rush's albums do fall under the stereotypical banner of what is called "prog." Good music is good music, regardless of style or genre. :hat
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70s Zep, easily.
Can't think of many bands that would beat that.
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Any Rush over any Led Zeppelin (as much as I love LZ).
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Rush of the 80s is slightly better, I also prefer that decade of theirs. I love Zeppelin of the 70s as well, though, but six of those Rush albums are 9/10 or above, while Zepp was dragged down by Physical graffiti and Presence - both good albums, but not good enough for comparison.
This was extremely tough, Kev, you paired two of my top 5 bands. Can't wait to see what are you gonna come up with next. :smiley:
I'm a Rush fan, and Physical Graffiti towers over every album in the Rush catalogue with the possible exception of Hemispheres, and even that, I concede is just my preference.
I get it, these threads are all about "I like!" as opposed to anything objective or quantifiable, but some time in the future, this thread will be the example of the fanboy-ism of Rush fans. There is no "Rush" or "Caress of Steel" in the Zeppelin catalogue. And as good as Moving Pictures and Hemispheres are, there's no Zofo in the Rush catalogue. My 16-year old went to a dance about a year ago and the final song was "Stairway to Heaven". There was no dancing to Rush songs in that dance. I think even Alex and Geddy would concede that there was a Zeppelin without Rush, but there would be no Rush without Zeppelin.
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There is no "Rush" or "Caress of Steel" in the Zeppelin catalogue.
Coda would like a word with you.
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I get it, these threads are all about "I like!" as opposed to anything objective or quantifiable, but some time in the future, this thread will be the example of the fanboy-ism of Rush fans. There is no "Rush" or "Caress of Steel" in the Zeppelin catalogue.
Well...a decent argument could be made that "Rush" is a Led Zeppelin album, so I disagree with that. As far as Zeppelin having no Caress of Steel, I would compare it favorably to Presence. Presence features what is, in my opinion, Zeppelin's best song (Achilles), but the rest of the album just goes through the motions. Nothing on Caress is as good as Achilles, but it's overall a far stronger album.
And as good as Moving Pictures and Hemispheres are, there's no Zofo in the Rush catalogue.
Well...it's certainly true neither Rush nor almost any other band has an album that sold as many copies as ZOSO, but these polls aren't about raw sales figures (and keep in mind that sales of "Jagged Little Pill" and the soundtrack from "Grease" are in the same range as those of ZOSO, so....). I could listen to Hemispheres and/or Moving Pictures on a loop for the rest of my life. As good ZOSO is, I have to be in the right mood to listen all the way through.
My 16-year old went to a dance about a year ago and the final song was "Stairway to Heaven". There was no dancing to Rush songs in that dance.
I remember the glory days of dancing to Jacob's Ladder and the marathon sessions of dancing to side 1 of 2112 (my moves during the Presentation guitar solo were legendary). Seriously, though, I don't think anyone really considered danceability in responding to this poll, and the there's no debate that Stairway is a more culturally significant song than any Rush song.
I think even Alex and Geddy would concede that there was a Zeppelin without Rush, but there would be no Rush without Zeppelin.
Probably so, but does that then mean that, in a poll that pitted Zeppelin against Spirit or Jake Holmes (or any of the myriad Blues artists Zeppelin plagarized), only Zeppelin "fanboys" would choose Zeppelin?
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I respect your opinion, but I think you missed the forest for The Trees (pun oh so gloriously intended!). I don't LITERALLY mean "dancing"; for all the women at a typical Rush concert, your admission doesn't surprise me one bit (I'm kidding with you). I was meaning to get the point across that Zeppelin has a transcendent aspect to it that Rush doesn't have. They just don't. They are literally the largest cult band in the history of rock. That's a complement; I'm not bagging on Rush; I love them. I really do. Have every SONG ever put out by them officially, and have seen them more than all but I think three bands. Peart is on my Mt. Rushmore (pun also intended) of drummers (Bonham, Collins, and Portnoy are there too). "Hemispheres" is one of my five top albums of all time by any band (as I noted, Physical Graffiti is the only Zep album that makes the top ten). And I am not at all second-guessing anyone's right to like Rush more. But as much as I love, say, Cheap Trick, or Oasis, I'm not going to pretend they are somehow BETTER than the Beatles. That would be ludicrous. Just that I would like to listen to "Heaven Tonight" over "With The Beatles" every day of the week.
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I was meaning to get the point across that Zeppelin has a transcendent aspect to it that Rush doesn't have. They just don't.
Concur.
I am not at all second-guessing anyone's right to like Rush more. But as much as I love, say, Cheap Trick, or Oasis, I'm not going to pretend they are somehow BETTER than the Beatles. That would be ludicrous. Just that I would like to listen to "Heaven Tonight" over "With The Beatles" every day of the week.
Well...the poll asked which band "do you like better," and that's nothing more than a subjective preference, and I don't think it's terribly surprising that the denizens of this forum subjectively prefer Rush. If you were to ask which band "is better," then I'd respond by asking, "what does 'better' mean?" or "better in what way?" However you answer those questions, it's still going to be subjective unless you ask about things that are quantifiable like album sales (or things like cultural impact which, while not quantifiable, is not reasonably debatable in this case).
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Well...the poll asked which band "do you like better," and that's nothing more than a subjective preference, and I don't think it's terribly surprising that the denizens of this forum subjectively prefer Rush. If you were to ask which band "is better," then I'd respond by asking, "what does 'better' mean?" or "better in what way?" However you answer those questions, it's still going to be subjective unless you ask about things that are quantifiable like album sales (or things like cultural impact which, while not quantifiable, is not reasonably debatable in this case).
You are right. No argument.