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Title: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on September 30, 2012, 06:04:02 PM
....will commence in the morning! ;D
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Post by: Elite on September 30, 2012, 06:06:45 PM
Screw you :lol
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Post by: King Postwhore on September 30, 2012, 06:56:50 PM
 :lol

Will follow of course!
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Post by: wolfking on September 30, 2012, 10:12:04 PM
Really looking forward to this.
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Post by: jjrock88 on September 30, 2012, 11:14:43 PM
Really really looking forward to this.
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Post by: Scorpion on October 01, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
Bastard! :lol :lol

Following, of course. I believe that this will be quite interesting.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on October 01, 2012, 03:05:14 AM
Crap! Fell for that one!
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 07:01:33 AM
Hi, my name is TAC. I love music!

Well, here we go... Just to give you a point of reference, I just turned 44 last week (WTF?). I graduated high school in 1986 and college in 1990.
I'm not sure that my list will have many surprises. I am more of a classic heavy metal guy. I held my self to no self imposed boundries. In fact my Top 50 may contain close to 60 albums because in some instances, where a band made "sister" albums to me, or where I simply could not decide, I listed them together.

Anyway, some honerable mentions...

Deep Purple-Burn (1974)

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My favorite Deep Purple studio album. I have great memories of listening to this cassette riding to hockey games and doing my paper route. I love Ian Paice's work here and the terrific vocals by David Coverdale and especially Glen Hughes. The title track is one of my all time favorite songs with Ritchie Blackmore and Jon Lord trading great runs. It's very easy to hear the influence they would have on Dream Theater.

Fave tracks: Burn, Might Just Take Your Life, Mistreated

Rush- 2112 (1976)

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This was tough to leave out. Rush was one of my first favorite bands when I was a kid. We,re talking 7th grade here. I had all of the 8 tracks. This album is just so dynamic. I love the story of the title track,especially how it was presented. I thought the music carried it perfectly. The other track are also very good, especially Something For Nothing.

Fave tracks: 2112, Something For Nothing

Iced Earth- Alive In Athens (1999)

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I have often called this the "Frampton Comes Alive" of heavy metal. This album is a great live document for a moment in time that is really all you need to know from Iced Earth. I rememeber discovering them on this album. I made a blind buy because it looked so cool. Every time I would flick through the Iron Maiden bin, I ced earth was right next to it. I picked it up and , though it took me a few listens, when it hit, it hit me like a ton of bricks. Simply amazing performances.

Fave Tracks: Dante's Inferno, A Question Of heaven, The Prophecy, Travel In Stygian

Blondie- Eat To The Beat (1979)

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OK don't laugh! This was one of the first albums that I ever owned, and it still holds up today. There are some great songs on this. Debbie Harry was NOT a great singer, obviously, but there is so much character on this album. The and actually rocks pretty good. I would love to see a metal band remake a couple of tracks from this. I actually got one band I was in to cover Living In The Real World. It sounded great!

Fave tracks: Living In The Real World, Accidents Never Happen, Shayla

Van Halen- Fair Warning (1981)

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Another one of my first favorite bands. Fair Warning is my favorite of the DLR era. It'sprobably their heaviest. I just remember spending hours as a kid listening to them. Their music was just so much fun. You could literally feel it through the music. I thought that that was a real talent that they had. Van Halen could literally pick you up with what they were playing, and just put you in a good mood. Great summer music.

Fave tracks: Sinner's Swing, So This Is Love, Mean Streets
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 09:02:54 AM
OK..here's the first 5!

50- Judas Priest- Screaming For Vengeance (1982)
 
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I put this in as a last minute switch with one of my honoroable mentions. As much as I am a huge clssic metal guy, I've always only been a casual fan of Judas Priest. I mean, i like them as much as the next guy, but they have never really ranked as a favorite band of mine.
But this is one album that I absolutely treasure. It colntains probably the greatest album opening in the history of metal. And the album never really lets up. Even the secondary tracks I enjoy. I don't think Rob Halford ever sounded better.

Fave tracks: Screaming For Vengeance, Riding On The Wind, Hellion/Electric Eye

49- Blackfoot-Siogo (1983)

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Some consider 1983's Siogo as the beginning of the end of this southern (hard) rock band. They hired Ken Hensley (Uriah Heep) on keyboards. But oddly they make a terrific album here. Sort of a Southern Rock meets NWOBHM.  Ricky Medlocke was a great frontman. Currently, he is the face of Lynyrd Skynyrd.

This album was preceeded by 1981's Marauder. Again, classic hard rock meets southern rock. Maurauder gets an honorable mention here along with Tomcattin, and Strikes. Together these 4 albums are classics is the TAC collection.

Fave tracks off Siogo: Send Me An Angel, Teenage Idol, Sail Away

48- Heavy Pettin'- Lettin' Loose (1983)

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Scotland's entry into the NWOBHM. To me, this album captures that time perfectly. Musically it sits right in the middle of Def Leppard's High And Dry and Pyromania. If you are a fan of either of those albums, you MUST check out Lettin' Loose. Heavy Pettin' would go on to release two more albums, but I was less than impressed. Lettin' Loose ais a great "moment in time" album that is a must for any classic NWOBHM fan.

Fave tracks: Victims Of The Night, Hell Is Beautiful, Broken Heart

47- Heavenly- Dust To Dust  (2004)

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Released in 2004, this to me is what it would be like if Queen released a metal album.  I stumbled upon Heavenly while on Kai Hansen's website and noticed his work with the French band on their debut Coming From The Sky. I blind bought that and their second album Sign Of The Winner. Now Sign Of The Winner is a GREAT album, but their third, Dust To Dust goes "next level". There's is of course power, thrash, and melodic rock on this, a blending of styles to create a grand album. This album also has some of the best double bass drumming I've ever heard courtesy of Max Pilo. Unfortunately, the band spli in two after this release, with guitarist Frederic LeClerq now wasting his time as Dragonforce's bassist. Too bad because he is a phenominal musician.

Fave Tracks: Evil, Victory, Fight For Deliverance

46- Led Zeppelin- Physical Graffiti (1975)

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I am not a huge Zeppelin guy. I mean I like them and all, and recognize their influence, but they are NOT one of my favorite bands. Still I feel the inclusion of Physical Graffiti is necessary on my Top 50. To me, the double album is a "one stop shop" for Zeppelin. It is a showcase for all the band does. To me, it's their creative peak.

Fave Tracks: In My Time Of Dying, In The Light, The Wanton Song


Next update will be Wednesday morning, but there's 10 albums to chew on!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Scorpion on October 01, 2012, 09:07:06 AM
Screaming for Vengeance is a killer album, with Electric Eye being one of the finest JP moments.

Don't know the others, except for PG, which I'm kinda indifferent to.
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Post by: Nekov on October 01, 2012, 09:09:18 AM
Physical Graffiti is a great album. The fact that Kashmir is not among your favorites puzzels me a bit
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Post by: Mladen on October 01, 2012, 09:12:48 AM
Screaming for vengeance - waaaaaaay too low

Physical graffiti - waaaaaaay too high
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 09:22:17 AM
Physical Graffiti is a great album. The fact that Kashmir is not among your favorites puzzels me a bit

Kashmir is one of those songs that I can never get sick of. I mean, I listed my 3 faves from the album. But I love the whole album. Even Down By The Seaside. Especially Down By The Seaside.

Don't know the others, except for PG, which I'm kinda indifferent to.

If Queen made a heavy metal album, it would be Heavenly's Dust To Dust. Spectacular playing.
If you like the NWOBHM, especially early Def Leppard, try Heavy Pettin'.  Youtube my fave tracks and check 'em out!
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Post by: Big Hath on October 01, 2012, 10:10:01 AM
Burn, 2112, Iced Earth, VH!  Great honorable mentions.

I really need to check out Screaming for Vengeance.  PG is great.
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Post by: wkiml on October 01, 2012, 10:15:39 AM
Following .....Although we are similar in Age of both have a love for NWOBHM....my tendencies lean toward the heavier Thrash side...be interesting to see where your list goes
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Post by: Dream Team on October 01, 2012, 10:58:47 AM
Great idea TAC! I know we will share a LOT of the same favorites, being the same age (actually I'm 45) and sharing the same tastes. How many Scorpions and Maiden albums will there be?  :corn.
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Post by: Zydar on October 01, 2012, 11:31:36 AM
You're off to a great start there TAC :tup

I'm hoping for some classic 70s Scorpions, especially my favourite: Taken By Force :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 01, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
Yeah!!!!! Now this will be a killer list, great start.  Priest, Iced Earth, Rush, VH, LZ, all awesome material.  Hellion/Electric Eye is the best lead off track from any album.  Only Neon Knights can compare.   I would rank Fair Warning much higher, its my personal favorite VH album.  I'll pretend I didnt see Blondie.
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 12:37:01 PM
I'll pretend I didnt see Blondie.
Hey, we all got secrets!  :lol

You're off to a great start there TAC :tup

I'm hoping for some classic 70s Scorpions, especially my favourite: Taken By Force :metal

Zy, I love Taken By Force but sadly there will be no Scorps on my list. 50 albums fill up pretty damn quick! Sorry to you too, Dream Team.  :)


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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 01, 2012, 12:41:11 PM
hmm....already some stuff I've never heard of, and I'm OLDER than you  :eek
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 12:50:20 PM
hmm....already some stuff I've never heard of, and I'm OLDER than you  :eek
I think you would like the Heavenly album, especially being a Serenity fan. Just check out the first track, Evil!
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 01, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
hmm....already some stuff I've never heard of, and I'm OLDER than you  :eek
I think you would like the Heavenly album, especially being a Serenity fan. Just check out the first track, Evil!


Oh, I already have that one, I meant Heavy Pettin
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 01:14:02 PM
Oh OK, I would put that one right between High n Dry and Pyromania. Victims Of The Night :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 01, 2012, 02:01:55 PM
We are the same age- and seems like similar taste too.

A great start- I'm a fan of all of those except the Heavenly which I haven't heard (but will youtube later), Heavy Pettin' who were total shite (imho of course) and the Zep.

Definitely following.
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Post by: El Barto on October 01, 2012, 05:16:33 PM
As a big time Priest fan, I'd put SFV at the bottom of the top tier albums.  Probably third.  But you're right about Hellion.  One of the best intros to a metal album you'll ever hear. 

Depending on my mood, Fair Warning probably tops my Van Halen list.  Aside from WACF, there's nothing really close, IMO.  I decided a while back that Mean Street is probably Van Halen's masterpiece.  Everything about it perfectly defines Van Halen.
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 05:31:01 PM
Yes, I love WACF. Definitely my two fave VH albums.
Bart, what Priest would you rank above SFV?
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Post by: Unlegit on October 01, 2012, 05:50:22 PM
Great list so far. If 2112 is an honorable mention, I sure hope some other Rush albums will appear later on. I personally think Fair Warning is the worst DLR album, maybe besides Diver Down, but eh. Good choices with Judas Priest and Led Zeppelin though  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 05:52:46 PM
Yes there will be more Rush!
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 01, 2012, 06:03:56 PM
Yes there will be more Rush!

Always a good sentence!
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 01, 2012, 06:08:57 PM
Dammit TAC.  I love Hellion/Electric Eye.  Such a great tune and album.

And that was a tough one leaving off Fair Waring.  It's my favorite VH album.
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Post by: TAC on October 01, 2012, 06:26:05 PM
Like I said about the Scorps, 50 albums fills up fast. Tough leaving 2112 and Burn off I'll tell you that!
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Post by: El Barto on October 01, 2012, 10:36:19 PM
Yes, I love WACF. Definitely my two fave VH albums.
Bart, what Priest would you rank above SFV?
For the longest time I had Sad Wings at the top of the list.  Recently, I think I've decided that Stained Class is the best thing they did. All the songs are good.  Several are spectacular.  Les Binks is Godlike.  Plus, the best songs from Sad Wings were actually much better live from Unleashed in the East. The live versions really knock the studio album down a couple of notches.  If I were to recommend starter albums, it'd be Stained Class and Unleashed.
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Post by: Cedar redaC on October 01, 2012, 11:05:44 PM
Followed.
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Post by: wolfking on October 02, 2012, 04:59:51 AM
Good start.  Priest always wins, Heavenly are a great power metal band, that album in particular is excellent.  Never got into Blackfoot but from what I've heard they have a great sound.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 02, 2012, 07:27:33 AM
Yes, I love WACF. Definitely my two fave VH albums.
Bart, what Priest would you rank above SFV?
For the longest time I had Sad Wings at the top of the list.  Recently, I think I've decided that Stained Class is the best thing they did. All the songs are good.  Several are spectacular.  Les Binks is Godlike.  Plus, the best songs from Sad Wings were actually much better live from Unleashed in the East. The live versions really knock the studio album down a couple of notches.  If I were to recommend starter albums, it'd be Stained Class and Unleashed.


Judas Priest appeared in my top 50 twice - #50 was Stained Class and #31 was Sad Wings of Destiny......I go back and forth on those two, but I prefer the more progressive stuff on Sad Wings and I totally agree about Unleashed in the East.  It's one of the best "live" albums ever recorded.
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Post by: TAC on October 02, 2012, 07:37:48 AM
All of those Priest albums are great. Not sure how they never really became a favorite of mine.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 02, 2012, 08:02:03 AM
I'm very interested to she how the Maiden albums line up on your list.
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Post by: TAC on October 02, 2012, 08:10:08 AM
Gee, what makes you think there would be any Iron Maiden on my list?  ;D
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Post by: wkiml on October 02, 2012, 08:54:05 AM
Gee, what makes you think there would be any Iron Maiden on my list?  ;D


I better see one of the 2 Dianno fronted albums on this list :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 02, 2012, 11:38:24 AM
Gee, what makes you think there would be any Iron Maiden on my list?  ;D


I better see one of the 2 Dianno fronted albums on this list :metal

Better check out mine when the time comes then  ;D
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 02, 2012, 01:04:33 PM
Posting to follow. Interesting start.  Definitely approve of PG.
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Post by: LudwigVan on October 02, 2012, 01:36:08 PM
I originally got into Priest with Defenders of the Faith and Screaming for Vengeance, but my overall preference is for pre-British Steel Priest, i.e. Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Hell Bent and Stained Class.  There's a certain raw innocence that I love about those early albums.   
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Post by: TAC on October 02, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
I originally got into Priest with Defenders of the Faith and Screaming for Vengeance, but my overall preference is for pre-British Steel Priest, i.e. Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Hell Bent and Stained Class.  There's a certain raw innocence that I love about those early albums.
Yes I agree. We need a poll, who is better, 70's Scorpions or 70's Priest?
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Post by: Scorpion on October 02, 2012, 01:54:31 PM
I originally got into Priest with Defenders of the Faith and Screaming for Vengeance, but my overall preference is for pre-British Steel Priest, i.e. Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Hell Bent and Stained Class.  There's a certain raw innocence that I love about those early albums.
Yes I agree. We need a poll, who is better, 70's Scorpions or 70's Priest?

Priest, any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays. No questions asked.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 02, 2012, 03:27:05 PM
I originally got into Priest with Defenders of the Faith and Screaming for Vengeance, but my overall preference is for pre-British Steel Priest, i.e. Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, Hell Bent and Stained Class.  There's a certain raw innocence that I love about those early albums.
Yes I agree. We need a poll, who is better, 70's Scorpions or 70's Priest?

Priest, any day of the week and twice on Tuesdays. No questions asked.

This, Not a fan of early Scorps really- though Uli Jon was awesome.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 02, 2012, 05:27:45 PM
45- Y&T- Mean Streak (1983)

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Anoher 1983 release that just grabbed me and never let me go. Mean Streak topped off a great 3 album run from Y&T that included Black Tiger and Earthshaker. These 3 albums are essential for any classic metal fan.
Even with all of the pimping that Bosk does for them, they are and have always been overlooked. Dave Meniketti's vocal and guitar talents speak for themselves. Just a great album from start to finish. Mean Streak and Siogo have always been "sister" albums in my collection. Got them both around the same time, and they are very similar.



44- Anthrax - Stomp 442 (1995)

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I am not sure why this album catches so much flak. Although it has aged nicely, I was somewhat disappointed in The Sound Of White Noise. Perhaps it was Dan Spitz leaving, marking consecutive release with a member departing.  Stomp has so many great tracks. John Bush just wails on this too. Some solo by Dimebag to boot. This album hit me at a turning point in my life and I really connected with a lot of the lyrics. Things like Fueled, American Pompeii, and even Bare, which I know most Anthrax fans hate. But they all kind of spoke to me.

Fave tracks: the ones mentioned above

43- Aerosmith- Night In The Ruts (1979)

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I've seen Night In The Ruts listed as one Aerosmith's worst abums. I cannot disagree more. It was recorded during the darkest days of the band, but this album flat out rocks. It is by far their heaviest album. This was one of the first 8 tracks I owned so it's been with me all of my musical life, and I never get sick of it.  Just listen to the jamming in Think About It. Steven Tyler, as fucked up as he was, puts on a memorable performance on this album. Full of the Tyler style.

Fave tracks: Think About It, Three Mile Smile, Chiquita
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 02, 2012, 09:49:11 PM
Y & T is just a great hard rock band period; very underated.  I'm a big fan of John Bush, both him in Saint and Anthrax.  Don't see much mention ever of Stomp 442.  Cool choice!  Never got into Aerosmith.
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Post by: El Barto on October 02, 2012, 11:24:46 PM
All good albums.  I saw Y&T several times, as they were a frequent support act down here.  Always put on a great show.  Mean Streak was really the only album I was fond of, though.  They got a little to poppy for me after that.  Stomp's a good album, and definitely has some great songs on it.  I don't think it can compare with the opening salvo from White Noise, but I still enjoy listening to it from time to time.  And I always thought Cheese Cake was a great song.  Between the lyrics and the gratuitous slide guitar, it's about as raunchy a song as you'll ever hear.  Good stuff. 
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Post by: Ruba on October 03, 2012, 12:41:43 AM
Stomp 442!!!! American Pompeii is indeed awesome!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2012, 01:08:51 AM
Mean Streak is a great album. Y&T certainly feature in my top 50. Thought it would be higher TAC  ;D
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Post by: wolfking on October 03, 2012, 04:55:01 AM
Mean Fucking Streak!!  :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 06:21:04 AM
Y & T is just a great hard rock band period; very underated.  I'm a big fan of John Bush, both him in Saint and Anthrax.  Don't see much mention ever of Stomp 442.  Cool choice!  Never got into Aerosmith.
I love John Bush. Saint will be represented here, trust me! As far as Aerosmith, youtube Think About It. It has one of their most ferocious solo sections in their catalog. Also try Bone To Bone (Coney Island White Fish Boy). Like I said, this is Aerosmith at their heaviest and loosest.

Stomp 442!!!! American Pompeii is indeed awesome!
A great song that got me through a very odd time in my life.
"Never as old as I was today" Love that line!

All good albums.  I saw Y&T several times, as they were a frequent support act down here.  Always put on a great show.  Mean Streak was really the only album I was fond of, though.  They got a little to poppy for me after that.  Stomp's a good album, and definitely has some great songs on it.  I don't think it can compare with the opening salvo from White Noise, but I still enjoy listening to it from time to time.  And I always thought Cheese Cake was a great song.  Between the lyrics and the gratuitous slide guitar, it's about as raunchy a song as you'll ever hear.  Good stuff. 

After Meanstreak, I was done with Y&T. In Rock We Trust has a few good songs their, but the influence of hair metal and the Eddie rip off definitely turned me off. But I still love both Black Tiger and Earthshaker.
Also, White Noise has aged very well indeed. I clearly remember being disappointed when it came out. But I do love it now.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 03, 2012, 08:38:26 AM
All good albums.  I saw Y&T several times, as they were a frequent support act down here.  Always put on a great show.  Mean Streak was really the only album I was fond of, though.  They got a little to poppy for me after that.  Stomp's a good album, and definitely has some great songs on it.  I don't think it can compare with the opening salvo from White Noise, but I still enjoy listening to it from time to time.  And I always thought Cheese Cake was a great song.  Between the lyrics and the gratuitous slide guitar, it's about as raunchy a song as you'll ever hear.  Good stuff. 

After Meanstreak, I was done with Y&T. In Rock We Trust has a few good songs their, but the influence of hair metal and the Eddie rip off definitely turned me off. But I still love both Black Tiger and Earthshaker.
Also, White Noise has aged very well indeed. I clearly remember being disappointed when it came out. But I do love it now.
The problem with White Noise is that the second half is greatly inferior to the first half.  From Potters Field to Hy-Pro Glow is awesome.  Everything after that is fairly weak.  Although the bonus tracks do make up for it a bit.  The Cowboy Song cover is excellent.  Stomp probably has the same ratio of good/bad songs, but they're evenly dispersed across the album.

And yeah, Y&T's giant robot was pretty cheesy. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 08:45:43 AM
My favorite tracks off of White Noise are definitely Hi Pro Glo, and Invisible and This Is Not An Exit. Yes I agree about the B sides, and they also recorded Poison My Eyes for a soundtrack (Last Action Hero?) during this time which might have been the best Bush era song of the bunch!
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 03, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
Never really got into Y&T and I plain just don't like Anthrax.  Aerosmith's first half a dozen albums are great, don't care for much of their output after that.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 03, 2012, 09:19:54 AM
Aerosmith's first half a dozen albums are great, don't care for much of their output after that.
Yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find a band that was so good for a while before becoming so god-awful terrible.  There's very little that pisses me off more than Desmond Child era Aerosmith.  Partly because it's so fucking terrible, and partly because they used to be such a good band.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
My Top 5 Aerosmith albums:
Night In The Ruts
Get Your Wings
Rocks
Done With Mirrors
Rock And A Hard Place (yeah I went there!)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 03, 2012, 10:44:18 AM
Rock And A Hard Place (yeah I went there!)
I would probably go there as well, it's a damn good record.

Night in the ruts has never been one of my favorites, it doesn't sound too inspiring and exciting to my ears. It's a shame that the songs I like the most on this record are the covers. Draw the line, on the other hand - now there's a great underrated record.  :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 10:47:57 AM
Except for Kings And Queens, Draw The Line is easily my least fave of the classic Aerosmith albums.  :lol
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Post by: Mladen on October 03, 2012, 10:54:52 AM
It's probably my favorite Aerosmith album overall. Title track, Kings and queens, The Hand that feeds, I wanna know why, Sight for sore eyes... Man, they were so high at this time, it resulted in a highly exotic record, I just can't not love it's weirdness and some rather psychadelic tunes.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2012, 10:58:25 AM
Not the biggest Aerofan but Permanent Vacation and Pump are the only albums I like.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
It's probably my favorite Aerosmith album overall. Title track, Kings and queens, The Hand that feeds, I wanna know why, Sight for sore eyes... Man, they were so high at this time, it resulted in a highly exotic record, I just can't not love it's weirdness and some rather psychadelic tunes.
Forgot about Sight For Sore Eyes. That is a great song. And I will definitely agree on the title track. I just love the real heaviness and Fu#k You attitude of Ruts.

Not the biggest Aerofan but Permanent Vacation and Pump are the only albums I like.
Nothing wrong with Pump!
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Post by: wkiml on October 03, 2012, 11:48:57 AM
Saw Aero on the Rock and a Hard place tour I was embarassed for them. Steven was so F#%ked up, he fell of a Ramp that went over the drum riser and wiped out half the drumset. Forgot lyrics to songs he had been singing for years and Crespo was so out of tune , that at one point Kramer,Hamilton and Duffy left the stage and had to be begged to come back out. I believe they played one or two more songs and called it a night
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 12:03:30 PM
Saw Aero on the Rock and a Hard place tour I was embarassed for them. Steven was so F#%ked up, he fell of a Ramp that went over the drum riser and wiped out half the drumset. Forgot lyrics to songs he had been singing for years and Crespo was so out of tune , that at one point Kramer,Hamilton and Duffy left the stage and had to be begged to come back out. I believe they played one or two more songs and called it a night
Awesome story!
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Post by: DebraKadabra on October 03, 2012, 12:17:51 PM
they also recorded Poison My Eyes for a soundtrack (Last Action Hero?)

You're correct - first time I heard Poison My Eyes, it blew me away.  There was some really good stuff on that soundtrack (minus the Def Leppard and QR tracks of course).
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
42- Tesla- Mechanical Resonance

(https://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/tesla/album-mechanical-resonance.jpg)

In the fall of 1986, I was a freshman in college. I was driving back one Sunday night when I hear this killer song on the radio. I've never heard it, but it was rock that was so fresh, in a great memorable style, with a unique vocalist. When the song was over I was hoping to hear who and what it was, but that didn't happen. So when I got back, I literally called the radio station to find out what they played. Tesla-Modern Day Cowboy was the answer. I immedeately bought the album and was hooked. It was 70's style rock with an 80's production. They fit right between UFO and Aerosmith.I would see them a few months later opening for David Lee Roth, and would follow them right until they broke up, the first time.

Fave tracks-Cumin' Atcha Live, Gettin' Better, Changes

41- Hammerfall- Legacy Of Kings

(https://www.metal-archives.com/images/8/4/1/841.jpg)

About 12 years ago, I decided I needed to check out some new music. I decided I would blind buy an album. I had 3 possible groups, Hammerfall, Sym X, and I forget the others. I listened to a handful of 30 second samples by each, but was blown away by the sample to Hammerfall's Heeding The Call.
I bought Legacy Of Kings and was blown away. Now this was the late 90's and while a lot of 80's metal bands have put out some great material over the last 6-8 years, they were all relatively quiet at this time.
Hammerfall champions the 80's hard rock/ metal that I grew up with, blending Dio, Helloween, Yngwie, Maiden, Saxon, Accept, and Dokken.
Now their catalog has certainly proven to be somewhat inconsistent, but I would put their Top 20 songs against anybody's.

Fave tracks- Heeding The Call, Warriors Of Faith, Legacy Of Kings, The Fallen One
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Post by: Scorpion on October 03, 2012, 12:53:30 PM
Legacy of Kings is truly Hammerfall at their best. Great album, I should give it a spin again some time.
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Post by: Mladen on October 03, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
That's a pretty sad story, wkiml. No wonder they took a hiatus for a while following that tour...

Legacy of kings is pretty cool.  :tup
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2012, 01:04:12 PM
Tesla  :metal :metal :metal
Loved them.

Hammerfall- not heard this one, just have Renegade and found that to be "alright".
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 01:07:16 PM
Hammerfall- not heard this one, just have Renegade and found that to be "alright".
Renegade has some great songs on it, but is definitely hurt by the production, especially the lack of life in the drums. Legacy Of Kings is much stronger sounding.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 03, 2012, 01:14:02 PM
heh, that's my favorite Tesla album - nice choice, TAC  :tup
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Post by: wkiml on October 03, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
Love Tesla but The Great Radio Controversy is my favorite album of theirs

Hammerfall and the similiar power metal bands just never really clicked with me, the always came off as second rate Helloweens too me
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 02:17:18 PM
Hammerfall and the similiar power metal bands just never really clicked with me, the always came off as second rate Helloweens too me
I understand that Bill. They are like an 80's metal cover band that does originals, if you follow me. There are certainly a lot of misses in their catalog, but they have tons of songs that really hit the spot.
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Post by: wkiml on October 03, 2012, 02:33:25 PM
Hammerfall and the similiar power metal bands just never really clicked with me, the always came off as second rate Helloweens too me
I understand that Bill. They are like an 80's metal cover band that does originals, if you follow me. There are certainly a lot of misses in their catalog, but they have tons of songs that really hit the spot.

I'll check out this particular album...need to go into it with an open mind
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 02:36:09 PM
Check out Warriors Of Faith. About halfway through they go into full blown Accept mode. Heeding The Call has a wicked Keepers era Helloween's feel to it and that is just fine with me!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2012, 03:09:01 PM
Hammerfall- not heard this one, just have Renegade and found that to be "alright".
Renegade has some great songs on it, but is definitely hurt by the production, especially the lack of life in the drums. Legacy Of Kings is much stronger sounding.

Anders Johanssen wasn't it? Not a great drummer.

Re Tesla, I prefer TGRC to MR- but only just. That debut blew me away at the time. Went downhill after Psychotic Supper, though BAN has some good songs.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 03:14:09 PM
The drummer on Legacy Of Kings is Patrik Rafling. He is definitely a lot more exciting that Anders Johansson.

The first 4 Tesla albums are all great, I actually rank TGRC as my least fave of the four! :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 03:27:52 PM
Ok, one more tonight. I am off tomorrow so there will definitly be more updates!

40- The Sweet- Desolation Boulevard

(https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VMNEWNFVL._SL500_SS500_.jpg)

I wore this CD out in high school. Such an important album  which has had songs covered off of it by Pat Benatar, Saxon, Ace Frehley, and obviously the many incarnations of Ballroom Blitz. Shocking this album does not get the airplay it deserves on classic rock radio. The Sweet would be at the forefront of the glam movement, but Desolation Boulevard is fairly heavy, as is the follow up, Give Us A Wink, which is also an excellent album.

Fave tracks- No You Don't, Set Me Free, I Wanna Be Committed
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Post by: Lowdz on October 03, 2012, 03:35:34 PM
The drummer on Legacy Of Kings is Patrik Rafling. He is definitely a lot more exciting that Anders Johansson.

The first 4 Tesla albums are all great, I actually rank TGRC as my least fave of the four! :lol

i know what you mean cos when I first got TGRC it didn't click straight away- my least favourite tracks were the first couple so that didn't help. Love it now though.
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Post by: TAC on October 03, 2012, 03:38:43 PM
My favorite Tesla track is Paradise. I also used to play Yesterdaze Gone on my radio show in college. And the beginning to Lady Luck is awesome!
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 03, 2012, 05:50:56 PM
Tesla's first 3 albums are gold in my eyes. 
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Post by: Big Hath on October 03, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
interesting that Ballroom Blitz was not on the European release of Desolation Boulevard
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 03, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
I don't have alot of material from Hammerfall or Tesla, but really enjoy what I've heard.
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Post by: Cyclopssss on October 04, 2012, 12:20:01 AM
Whoa, The Sweet! Now that's an interesting choice! Great band, indeed sadly overlooked in music history.
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Post by: Zydar on October 04, 2012, 12:45:40 AM
I recall dad having that Sweet LP when I was younger, I listened to Fox On The Run many times. I might have it lying around somewhere.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 04, 2012, 02:28:12 AM
The Sweet wrote some great songs- they just sound better when covered by other bands. Love Fox On The Run.
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Post by: wolfking on October 04, 2012, 03:53:52 AM
I never got into Sweet, but I actually really appreciate the work that I'm familiar with.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 06:36:11 AM
39- Armored Saint- Symbol Of Salvation (1991)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9m0L-U8ecrI/Tl7Ma63z3uI/AAAAAAAAEYQ/YbyQcq1FQbE/s1600/Armored_Saint_Symbol_Of_Salvation.jpg)

Released 4 years after 1987's Raising Fear, the band battled back from the tragic death of founding member, guitarist Dave Prichard, who passed away at the age of 26 from Luekemia. Having seen Armored Saint with Dave in the 80's a number of times, this was a great live band. Their studio albums didn't always translate the energy this band had. But the production on Symbol would far surpass anything they had done before. This was a make or break album for the band, and unfortunately, after the touring cycle, John Bush would go on to join Anthrax and Joey Vera would also move on to other things, most notably Fates Warning. Dave Prichard had a hand in writing much of the material. In fact the last time I saw them in 1989, they would feature two of the album's tracks, Reign Of Fire and Spineless.

Fave tracks: Hanging Judge, Burning Question, Tainted Past

38- Flotsam & Jetsam- No Place For Disgrace (1988) and When The Storm Comes Down (1990)

(https://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/41NADTPRPNL/Flotsam-&-Jetsam-No-Place-for-Disgrace.jpg)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3UjOL0e25YE/T18H3MerLWI/AAAAAAAADkg/NdvLcXTUN_g/s320/1990+-+When+the+Storm+Comes+Down.jpg)
This is the first time in my countdown that I will be pairing up albums by the same band. It is because I basically like them equally, and the are both important cogs in my record collection.
Flotsam & Jetsam are probably best known for being Jason Newsted's band before he joined Metallica. Jason played on F&J's debut, Doomsday For The Deceiver.  No Place For Disgrace would be the follow up and When The Storm Comes Down is their 3rd album. Both feature Troy Gregory on bass. Troy also picked up a lot of the songwriting slack left behind by Jason.
What you have here is some great classic thrash with clean, higher pitched vocals done by the very underrated Eric Knutson. Troy Gregory would leave for Prong after Storm, but F&J peaked with these two albums. Both get regular spins from me today.

No Place Fave tracks- NE Terror, Dreams Of Death, Misguided Fortune, PAAB
Storm Fave tracks-EMTEK, The Master Sleeps, Burned Device
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 04, 2012, 06:50:02 AM
Tesla... MR is fantastic.  Like Paul and others have mentioned, I give TGRC a slight edge to it.  Paul... trye Forever More.  It's a really good album.

Don't know much of the other albums listed so far.  Like I said in RJ's list, it's amazing what a 2 year age difference makes in terms of forming a musical base.  I really started my musical journey in '85 or so, just as the glam craze took hold.  Never really got back to the pure rock 'n' roll based 70s bands/albums of Aerosmith, Halen, Kiss etc ...  Not that I don't like them, just that they never captured my full listening attention.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 07:02:10 AM
Like I said in RJ's list, it's amazing what a 2 year age difference makes in terms of forming a musical base.  I really started my musical journey in '85 or so, just as the glam craze took hold.  Never really got back to the pure rock 'n' roll based 70s bands/albums of Aerosmith, Halen, Kiss etc ...  Not that I don't like them, just that they never captured my full listening attention.

That's an interesting point. Yes, a lot changed from the early 80's to the mid 80's. It was great to see that transition unfold as it happened.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 04, 2012, 07:25:02 AM
My favorite Tesla track is Paradise. I also used to play Yesterdaze Gone on my radio show in college. And the beginning to Lady Luck is awesome!


"....walked up to her and said 'how do you do?' and she said 'I don't'"   :lol
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Post by: wkiml on October 04, 2012, 08:01:42 AM
Big  :tup on the Flots   again I prefer Doomsday, but than again, my listening when I was younger production never really played a big part (even today I can honestly say that) I prefer the rawer sound anyway.....
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 08:06:21 AM
Big  :tup on the Flots   again I prefer Doomsday, but than again, my listening when I was younger production never really played a big part (even today I can honestly say that) I prefer the rawer sound anyway.....

Yeah I know you're a Doomsday guy. I like it too. I saw them on that tour, after Jason left, and that's what got me into them.
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Post by: El Barto on October 04, 2012, 08:30:37 AM
Like I said in RJ's list, it's amazing what a 2 year age difference makes in terms of forming a musical base.  I really started my musical journey in '85 or so, just as the glam craze took hold.  Never really got back to the pure rock 'n' roll based 70s bands/albums of Aerosmith, Halen, Kiss etc ...  Not that I don't like them, just that they never captured my full listening attention.

That's an interesting point. Yes, a lot changed from the early 80's to the mid 80's. It was great to see that transition unfold as it happened.
Yeah, that is interesting.  Similar thing with me, but after all those late 70's metal bands got me into that kind of music, I started getting into thrash, and therefore despising the hair metal scene from the later 80's. 
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 08:43:58 AM


Don't know much of the other albums listed so far.  Like I said in RJ's list, it's amazing what a 2 year age difference makes in terms of forming a musical base.  I really started my musical journey in '85 or so, just as the glam craze took hold.  Never really got back to the pure rock 'n' roll based 70s bands/albums of Aerosmith, Halen, Kiss etc ...  Not that I don't like them, just that they never captured my full listening attention.
Another thought I had on this point is that the classic bands was all we had to listen to on the radio before I had a record collection of my own to listen to.  There was a big shift in music from 1982-1984, and if radio became a real influence on what you liked, there was a definitely line drawn in the sand as the great 70's bands flared out. UFO, Thin Lizzy, Kiss for a time, Aerosmith, etc.
Actually what is amazing about Judas Priest is not only did they survive the transition, but actually flourished.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2012, 11:38:43 AM
Is this the first time Armored Saint has been mentioned in a list? I'm a huge fan! Just like Y&T, Armored Saint is criminally underated.
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Post by: Big Hath on October 04, 2012, 11:52:53 AM
Is this the first time Armored Saint has been mentioned in a list?

yes it is
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 12:10:45 PM
Is this the first time Armored Saint has been mentioned in a list?

yes it is
I thought about pairing Raising Fear with Symbol, ut decided against it. I love Raising Fear, but really, SOS is better. Perhaps not quite as heavy.
They were criminally underrated. You really had to see them to appreciate them. I kind of ignored them, myself. I remember the Grim reaper/Armored Saint/Helloween tour in 87. We went to a signing and I walked right by the Armored Saint table to see Helloween. After the Helloween set, we figured we'd watch the first song or two of Armored Saint. By the time they were done, I literally had to pick my jaw up off the floor. Never had I seen so much energy come from a band, and specifically one guy, John Bush.
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Post by: Scorpion on October 04, 2012, 12:18:33 PM
A lot of stuff that I don't know here, but both Armored Sait and F&J sound as though I could enjoy them.

I like your write-ups, btw. :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 12:25:42 PM
A lot of stuff that I don't know here, but both Armored Sait and F&J sound as though I could enjoy them.

I like your write-ups, btw. :tup
Thank you, I wish I had more time to devote to the write ups, but I will just have to settle on few thoughts and memories.

wkiml would recommend F&J's Doomsday ( with Newsted) but I prefer No Place. Just sample my rec's.
With Armored Saint, I would actually have you start with Raising Fear before moving on to SOS.
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Post by: Ruba on October 04, 2012, 12:29:59 PM
Armored Saint! I'm not really familiar with them, but they sound reeeeally good.
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
Flotsam & Jetsam
September 6, 1988
The Living Room
Providence, RI

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/FJ2.jpg)

Armored Saint
Various dates
The Living Room
Providence, RI

(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/AS3.jpg)
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/AS2.jpg)

John Bush during a cover of NIB on top of the stacks.
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/JB1.jpg)

A gruesome pic of me. I was probably 19 or 20 there. A little too much  :hat
But John Bush was all bad ass!
(https://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z246/TACPics/JB.jpg)

yes, that IS a Bon Jovi shirt! :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
Grim Reaper is another unknown gem of a band.  Helloween/Armored Saint/Grim Reaper; that sounds like a killer show!!
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Post by: TAC on October 04, 2012, 02:34:50 PM
Grim Reaper was the headliner. We actually stayed for the first song of their set, but ended up leaving. Honestly, we hadn't planned on staying after Helloween, and certainly not for Armored Saint's full set!
September 24th, 1987.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 04, 2012, 09:40:54 PM
Grim Reaper was the headliner. We actually stayed for the first song of their set, but ended up leaving. Honestly, we hadn't planned on staying after Helloween, and certainly not for Armored Saint's full set!
September 24th, 1987.

Interesting.  I would have figured that Helloween would have been the headliner and Grim Reaper would have opened. 

What do you think of the disc, "March of the Saint".  That just might be my favorite from Armored Saint.  I originally bought it because I thought the album cover was cool.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 05:22:51 AM
Grim Reaper was the headliner. We actually stayed for the first song of their set, but ended up leaving. Honestly, we hadn't planned on staying after Helloween, and certainly not for Armored Saint's full set!
September 24th, 1987.

Interesting.  I would have figured that Helloween would have been the headliner and Grim Reaper would have opened. 

What do you think of the disc, "March of the Saint".  That just might be my favorite from Armored Saint.  I originally bought it because I thought the album cover was cool.

Well, this was Helloween's first time in the states.

I do like March Of The Saint. I remember buying that and the first WASP album on the same ay.
Great tunes like Madhouse, MOTS, and I love Take A Turn. I just think that after MOTS and Delerious Nomad, Raising Fear is significantly better playing wise and writing wise. And it took another step up on SOS.

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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 05:29:30 AM
OK, here is today's update. Next one will be Tuesday morning.

37-Dream Theater- When Day And Dream REunite (2004)

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I love Dream Theater's first album, except I cannot listen to it. So I was so glad they basically rerecorded it live with James' vocals. I've heard his vocals weren't that strong that night, but they do not take away anything for me. The Killing Hand is a Top 5 (#4) DT song for me. I find the music on this first album more interesting than a lot of their latter day catalog. And the companion DVD is outstanding, especially the encores.

Fave tracks- The Killing Hand, Ytse Jam, Only A Matter Of Time

36.  Kiss- Hotter Than Hell (1974)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AwnBlkAjJZU/T-Y4RE0CUiI/AAAAAAAABAE/zE5n4AeMqyg/s320/1974+-+Hotter+Than+Hell.jpg)

Easily my favorite studio Kiss album. Their second album has a raw feel, yet seems a little tighter than their debut. Not much to say really. I love Peter Criss singing Ace Frehley's Strange Ways, which is possibly one of my favorite Kiss songs of all time. But having classics like the title track, Let Me Go Rock n Roll, along side some deep tracks like Coming Home and All The Way, just make this a real endrearing listen from start to finish.

Fave tracks- I just named them!

35. Megadeth- So Far So Good So What (1988)

(https://blastzoneonline.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/sfsgsw.jpg)

Ok Ok, with apologies to Rust In Peace, which I may admit is the better all around album, my all time favorite, and that's what we're discussing here, is still SFSGSW. It contains easily my two favorite Megadeth songs, In My Darkest Hour and Mary Jane.
I saw Megadeth open for Dio on 12-28-87, about two weeks before this album came out. Their live set was blistering. They were so much tighter and exciting than when I had seen them open for Alice Cooper 10 months earler with Poland and Samuelson in the band. So I ought SFSGSW upon return from my winter break during my sophomore year at college, and we played the shit out of this thing. I can live without Anarchy In The UK, but I absolutely love every other track on this.

Fave tracks- In My Darkest Hour, Mary Jane, Set The World On Fire
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Post by: Zydar on October 05, 2012, 05:33:28 AM
Hotter Than Hell! :metal

It was the first Kiss album I ever bought. Many great tracks on it, although the production is a little too raw and muddy for my taste.
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Post by: wolfking on October 05, 2012, 05:38:11 AM
Interesting DT choice.

I always liked that Megadeth album, filled with great songs.
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Post by: Scorpion on October 05, 2012, 06:17:39 AM
Whoa. That is a very unexpected DT choice, though I agree that WDADRU is far superior to the original album, both in terms of vocals and production.

SFSGSW is pretty awesome as well, with Into the Lungs of Hell/Set the World Afire probably being one of Megadeth's best openers ever.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 08:18:37 AM

SFSGSW is pretty awesome as well, with Into the Lungs of Hell/Set the World Afire probably being one of Megadeth's best openers ever.
They seemed to use the same formula to open Endgame. I love that album as well.

Hotter Than Hell! :metal

It was the first Kiss album I ever bought. Many great tracks on it, although the production is a little too raw and muddy for my taste.

Yeah the production is pretty rough but song wise it kicks ass!

Interesting DT choice.

Strangely, I don't even consider the original when I think of their discography. Like Zy's description of Hotter Than Hell, the songs still kick ass though. Lots of innocence and classic DT, but simply much better presented on the YJR release.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 05, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
In ode to your list I am playing  Hotter Than Hell in my office while doing paperwork.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 08:43:23 AM
In ode to your list I am playing  Hotter Than Hell in my office while doing paperwork.
:metal :metal
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 05, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Watchin' You!! :metal :metal
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Post by: Zydar on October 05, 2012, 08:56:56 AM
 :gene:
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Post by: Mladen on October 05, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
Good Kiss and Megadeth albums, although far from being my favorites.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
Watchin' You!! :metal :metal
I think Strange Ways is one of the coolest songs in their catalog. Peter Criss did a great job with it, but I am glad Ace started to perform it back in the 90's.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 05, 2012, 10:02:04 AM
It's been a while since I've seen Ace live.  His new album was awesome.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 05, 2012, 10:10:06 AM
"My Darkest Hour " is definitely one of Megadeth's best songs ever. 
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
"My Darkest Hour " is definitely one of Megadeth's best songs ever.
It might be a TAC Top 20 song of all time!
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Post by: Big Hath on October 05, 2012, 10:55:30 AM
first mention of Kiss on any list so far
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 05, 2012, 12:01:31 PM
HTH is still my favorite Kiss studio album.  Excellent all the way around, but I've always said this as well:

a little too raw and muddy for my taste.

Having just caught up on this today, I'll mention that they were discussing Night in the Ruts on "That Metal Show" a few weeks ago, when they had Brad and Joey from Aerosmith on.  The concensus seemed to be that Night in the Ruts was an extremely underrated album that they really liked.  Then Don called it "Right in the Nuts" and I thought "How did I never notice that before??"  :lol
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 05, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Very cool DT and Kiss picks!!
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 12:50:19 PM
Thanks JJ.
And Coz, about damn time you showed up!

Night In The Ruts is very underrated. It flat out ROCKS!
The play on words is pretty old and I believe intentional. You never noticed it before???
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Good Kiss and Megadeth albums, although far from being my favorites.
Going to assume your fave Megadeth album is RiP, but what are your favorite Kiss albums?

My Top 5 studio Kiss albums;
Hotter Than Hell
Dynasty (yeah I went there too)
Revenge
Kiss
Asylum

My Top 5 Megadeth;
So Far So Good So What
Rust In Peace
Endgame
United Abominations
Peace Sells

Anyone else?
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 05, 2012, 01:43:09 PM
Hotter than Hell
Revenge
Creatures of the Night
Rock and Roll Over
Animalize or Asylum

Also, we used to do Strange Ways, back in the Cold Gin days.  Fun song.  We also did War Machine.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 02:03:26 PM
Creatures is great. I forgot about that one. That could bounce the s/t from my list! And Animalize is all kinds of heavy greatness!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2012, 02:06:26 PM
Watchin' You!! :metal :metal
I think Strange Ways is one of the coolest songs in their catalog. Peter Criss did a great job with it, but I am glad Ace started to perform it back in the 90's.

Great song, great album. Prefer side 2 to side 1 but a great album.

I don't have a big problem with WDADU though even at the time the production faults grated- it's still a great debut album and I listen to it regularly. WDADRU is good too- I'll watch the dvd but wouldn't put the cd on in place of the debut.

Never really listened to Armored Saint. A quick youtube browse and I'm not getting it.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2012, 02:11:20 PM
Good Kiss and Megadeth albums, although far from being my favorites.
Going to assume your fave Megadeth album is RiP, but what are your favorite Kiss albums?

My Top 5 studio Kiss albums;
Hotter Than Hell
Dynasty (yeah I went there too)
Revenge
Kiss
Asylum

My Top 5 Megadeth;
So Far So Good So What
Rust In Peace
Endgame
United Abominations
Peace Sells

Anyone else?

Love Dynasty- except for 2000 Man, that was awful. Asylum was a big disappointment after Creatures, LIU, Animalize. There's still some good songs but alot of crap.

My top 5

Paul Stanley
Unmasked
Dynasty
Love Gun
Creatures
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Post by: El Barto on October 05, 2012, 02:11:59 PM
I've got a couple of nearly identical Armored Saint pictures somewhere.  Same outfits and all.  They opened for Saxon during their March of the Saint tour.  Saxon was promoting Innocence, I believe. 
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 03:13:49 PM
I've got a couple of nearly identical Armored Saint pictures somewhere.  Same outfits and all.  They opened for Saxon during their March of the Saint tour.  Saxon was promoting Innocence, I believe.
:metal :metal
Saxon and Saint!

I wouldn't see Armored Saint until 1987, but would see them another half dozen times through 1991.

Lowdz, I can see why they may not appeal to you. I guarantee that if you had seen them in some small club in the late 80's, you would surely be converted. They were a live band through and through. For you, I would recommend Another Day or Tainted Past or Last Train Home from Symbol Of Salvation.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 05, 2012, 03:23:52 PM
I've got a couple of nearly identical Armored Saint pictures somewhere.  Same outfits and all.  They opened for Saxon during their March of the Saint tour.  Saxon was promoting Innocence, I believe.
:metal :metal
Saxon and Saint!

I wouldn't see Armored Saint until 1987, but would see them another half dozen times through 1991.

Lowdz, I can see why they may not appeal to you. I guarantee that if you had seen them in some small club in the late 80's, you would surely be converted. They were a live band through and through. For you, I would recommend Another Day or Tainted Past or Last Train Home from Symbol Of Salvation.

I'll give them a try.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 03:42:27 PM
Lowdz, if I may, two others I think you might try;
Take A Turn ( from March Of The Saint)
Crisis Of Life (from Raising Fear)
Aftermath (from Delerious Nomad)
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Post by: El Barto on October 05, 2012, 04:40:15 PM
Listened to quite a bit of March of the Saint today.  Great album.

One of many Kiss covers that Anthrax did was Watching You.  Good stuff.  Anthrax is really a great cover band.

Saw Raven open for Slayer (Regin) and WASP (Electric Circus).  They were a hoot. 

SFSGSW beats the hell out of RIP, regardless of what Mustaine thinks.  HW/TPD and the title track are great.  Can't stand the rest of it.  SFSGSW should be the next album I listen to, in fact.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 05, 2012, 05:30:50 PM
One of many Kiss covers that Anthrax did was Watching You.  Good stuff.  Anthrax is really a great cover band.

Their cover of the fairly obscure Kiss tune "Love Her All I Can" was excellent.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
    SFSGSW should be the next album I listen to, in fact.
Yes, yes it should!

One of many Kiss covers that Anthrax did was Watching You.  Good stuff.  Anthrax is really a great cover band.

Their cover of the fairly obscure Kiss tune "Love Her All I Can" was excellent.
Didn't Gene sing on that as well?
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Post by: El Barto on October 05, 2012, 05:50:24 PM
    SFSGSW should be the next album I listen to, in fact.
Yes, yes it should!
Already did, and it's better than I recall.  It's aged very well, in fact.
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 06:04:45 PM
The album spews some serious attitude. And yes it has aged very well. I have no idea why it's not more highly regarded, other than the fact that it clocks in around 35 minutes...worked for Van Halen! :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 05, 2012, 06:07:47 PM
.  Anthrax is really a great cover band.

Thought about this and you are right. Similar to Mike Portnoy and Dream Theater, you can really feel the band's apprciation of their musical influences. Very sincere.
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Post by: Ruba on October 06, 2012, 06:38:26 AM
I'M NOT A FISH
I'M A MAN

HOOK

IN

MOUTH!


 :metal :metal :metal.
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2012, 12:57:20 PM
Ok, a quick weekend update!

34. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power (1983)

(https://c3.cduniverse.ws/resized/250x500/music/563/5848563.jpg)

I bought this when it came out in the spring of 1983. I knew he would be the opener for my first concert (Def Leppard 6-25-83) and I wanted to familiarize myself with his music. having Ian Paice, Niel Murray, and Don Airey..it was a damned all star band. And this album kicks ass. Gary was such a great and soulful guitar player. The solos in Cold Hearted are mind blowing, as is the epic I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow. This album has some mellow moments, but it serves as a lesson in blazing hard rock guitar in the early 80's.

Fave tracks-Cold Hearted,  I Can't Wait Until Tomorrow, Rockin' Every Night, Wishing Well

33. Queensryche- Operation Mindcrime (1988) and Warning (1984)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Queensryche-Operation_Mindcrime.jpg)(https://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRjXj_XmIKBT6KPsFjXm9QrAPa595OrKwM9fQOt8C1mbrzr1Vz6H5MLdnTQ)

Another spot where I simply cannot decide. Mindcrime is simply spectacular, but Warning will always be the special QR album to me. I guess much in the way that SFSGSW is to me as opposed to RiP. The 3 song run from  Deliverance-No Sanctuary-NM 156 is an incredible trio in the TAC metal world. Plus Roads To Madeness!!!
Back in the day, I did not care for Rage For Order. When QR returned with Mindcrime, they blew me away. This is one of those "next level" albums that I was not expecting. The first half of this album goes by in what feels like 5 minutes. And I rank Geoff Tate's performance on Mindcrime as on of the greatest of all time.

Warning Fave tracks- Roads To Madness, Deliverance, NM 156
Mindcrime Fave tracks- The Mission, Speak, Revolution Calling, Suite Sister Mary
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 07, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Mindcrime ... too low.  It's a top 10 piece of art for me.

Gary Moore... great guitarist.  Really dig his stuff, but I missed his music along the way in the 80s and 90s, and as good as it is, it's not my preferred cup of tea.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 07, 2012, 02:12:45 PM
Too low for me as well but nice that it made the list
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Post by: Scorpion on October 07, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
Mindcrime is my favourite QR record, and it barely missed the cut for my list. It's a great album, but pretty overrated as a whole, in my opinion. Speak is pretty fucking awesome, though.
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 07, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
That's one of my top 3 Gary Moore albums :3
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Post by: Lowdz on October 07, 2012, 03:29:46 PM
The Gary Moore is awesome but Mindcrime is far too low TAC  ;D

This is probably my favourite GM album but the production isn't the best. Some great ballads- and I'm a sucker for a good ballad.
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Post by: TAC on October 07, 2012, 05:58:14 PM
Mindcrime ... too low.  It's a top 10 piece of art for me.

Mindcrime is far too low TAC  ;D

Too low for me as well

I see a trend... Yeah it is awesome. It's tied for #33 on my all time list. That's after a ton of albums in my lifetime. I'd say it's still pretty high! :)
My favorite songs are on Warning, but O:M is probably ore consistent throughout. That's why they're tied.

I am happy to see some Gary Moore love around here.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 07, 2012, 06:53:20 PM
3 home runs there Buddy.  Man I loved COP.
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Post by: El Barto on October 07, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
I didn't care for Rage when it came out either, but it's subsequently passed O:M in my book. 

Saw Moore shortly after that album, but sadly don't remember anything about it.  Young, dumb kid wasn't a fan at the time.  One of the few shows I really regret not paying more attention to.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2012, 06:09:51 AM
Totally missed you'd put O:M and TW together. I love The Warning too. So many great songs but a couple that didn't hit the spot originally (love it all now).
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 06:14:12 AM

Saw Moore shortly after that album, but sadly don't remember anything about it.  Young, dumb kid wasn't a fan at the time.  One of the few shows I really regret not paying more attention to.
I was interested because of Ian Paice and Neil Carter. This was before the DP reunion and seeing Paice live was a treat.

As well as Rage has aged for me, I could not put it ahead of O:M.

Totally missed you'd put O:M and TW together. I love The Warning too. So many great songs but a couple that didn't hit the spot originally (love it all now).

There will be a number of times going forward that I will pair albums up.
I would take Deliverance, Sanctuary, NM 156, and Roads To Madness over anything from O:M but the bottom songs on Warning are also worse than anything on O:M.

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Post by: wolfking on October 08, 2012, 06:20:23 AM
Fuck yeah, Corridors of Power.  :metal

Good to see appreciation for the Warning too.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 07:25:15 AM
Really happy to see the Gary Moore appreciation. Strangely, John Petrucci never mentions him as an influence but I hear a TON of Gary in JP's playing. Especially in certain solos where JP hits those real rich tones.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 08, 2012, 02:34:10 PM
Going back a couple of pages, I had a good listen to the Armored Saint and Jesus TAC you were right. Great album. Waiting for it to arrive with bated breath.
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 02:54:55 PM
Going back a couple of pages, I had a good listen to the Armored Saint and Jesus TAC you were right. Great album. Waiting for it to arrive with bated breath.
:metal :metal
Awesome Lowdz!
My favorite Armored Saint song comes off of Raising Fear. It is called Book Of Blood. Check it out.
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Post by: Samsara on October 08, 2012, 03:15:04 PM
Going back a couple of pages, I had a good listen to the Armored Saint and Jesus TAC you were right. Great album. Waiting for it to arrive with bated breath.
:metal :metal
Awesome Lowdz!
My favorite Armored Saint song comes off of Raising Fear. It is called Book Of Blood. Check it out.

Big Saint fan boy here. And TAC is right -- Book of Blood is awesome. The solo shreds. Favorite album by them remains Symbol of Salvation though.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2012, 03:19:11 PM
Going back a couple of pages, I had a good listen to the Armored Saint and Jesus TAC you were right. Great album. Waiting for it to arrive with bated breath.

nice
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 05:10:06 PM
Going back a couple of pages, I had a good listen to the Armored Saint and Jesus TAC you were right. Great album. Waiting for it to arrive with bated breath.
:metal :metal
Awesome Lowdz!
My favorite Armored Saint song comes off of Raising Fear. It is called Book Of Blood. Check it out.

Big Saint fan boy here. And TAC is right -- Book of Blood is awesome. The solo shreds. Favorite album by them remains Symbol of Salvation though.
Thanks, Sam! Nice to see you!
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Post by: TAC on October 08, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
Update!

32. Saxon- Power And The Glory (1983)

(https://991.com/newGallery/Saxon-Power--The-Glory-567204.jpg)

Power And The Glory really took Saxon to a new level in terms of playing, writing, and production. Gone were the AC/DC inspired NWOBHM songs and they were replaced by a band that seemed set to take over the world. This album is that strong. Why it didn't happen, I just don't know. Well, one reason I think is that they were the ugliest looking band of all of the NWOBHM, and I just don't think anyone was willing to put some serious money behind them. They wre always one or two steps behind Maiden and even Def Leppard at that point. Saxon would continue their excellence with Cusader, which seemed to alienate their English fans with the song, Sailing To America..but I digress. Power And The Glory should be in everybody's heavy metal library.

Fave tracks- Power And The Glory, This Town Rocks, Nightmare

31. Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine (1981)

(https://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/l/lucifers_friend-mean_machine.jpg)

One day in 1985, I was looking through the bargain bin at a local Woolworth's. I find this cassette for $2.99 called Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine. The song title looked cool enough, so I took a chance. By the end of the first song, One Way Street To Heartbreak, my jaw was on the floor. This is great classic hard rock.
Lucifer's Friend was a 70's band. You all may remember LudwigVan's Forgotten Bands thread. Mean Machine marked the return of original vocalist John Lawton, who left for a few years to Uriah Heep.
There are only a few songs on Youtube from this album, and not even the best ones.

Fave tracks- One Way Street To Heartbreak, Cool Hand Killer, Hey Driver
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Post by: El Barto on October 08, 2012, 05:59:37 PM
Power and the Glory's the best album on here so far.  Interesting that you didn't include Eagle on your suggested tracks.  Regardless, every song on it's a winner.

I only remember Lucifer's Friend because of a video LV posted.  Plus,  not many bands have a French horn player and Fredo Corleone on vocals. 
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 08, 2012, 07:47:19 PM
Love all of Saxons material and Power and the Glory is definitely a standout. I think this might be the first time Saxon made a list too
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Post by: Mladen on October 09, 2012, 03:11:18 AM
Ooh, my favorite Saxon album!  :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 04:36:32 AM
Love all of Saxons material and Power and the Glory is definitely a standout. I think this might be the first time Saxon made a list too
P&G was on a list recently. Kirk's maybe..,
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 06:23:58 AM
So, to recap 31-50:

50. Judas Priest-Screaming For Vengeance
49. Blackfoot-Siogo
48. Heavy Pettin' - Lettin, Loose
47. Heavenly- Dust To Dust
46. Led Zeppelin- Physical Graffiti
45. Y&T- Mean Streak
44. Anthrax- Stomp 442
43. Aerosmith- Night In The Ruts
42. Tesla- Mechanical Resonance
41. Hammerfall- Legacy Of Kings
40. The Sweet- Desolation Boulevard
39. Armored Saint- Symbol Of Salvation
38. Flotsam & Jetsam- No Place For Disgrace AND When The Storm Comes Down
37. Dream Theater- When Day And Dream REunite
36. Kiss- Hotter Than Hell
35. Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
34. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power
33. Queensryche- Warning AND Operation Mindcrime
32. Saxon- Power And The Glory
31. Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 06:44:28 AM
30. Dream Theater- A Dramatic Turn Of Events (2011)

(https://www.metalinjection.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Dream-Theater-Dramatic-Turn-of-Events-artwork.jpg)

What can I say that hasn't been said all over DTF. This album more than surpassed my expectations and I am very happy with a return to the classic DT sound and attitude.

Fave tracks- Breaking All Illusions, Outcry, Lost Not Forgotten

29. Rush- Hemisperes (1978)

(https://s3.hubimg.com/u/800686_f496.jpg)

Rush was one of my first favorite bands before they jumped into the synth era. Hemispheres, to me, is their pinnacle album of the 70's. Like all the one before it were leading up to it. Love the title track though find that it lacks a little of the character of 2112 (the song), but the music is and playing are much better. In fact, drumming wise, this is my favorite Peart album. What he does in La Villa Strangiato, possible the great hard rock instrumental there is, is nothing short of incredible. I wore this out on 8

track as a kid and it really helped shape my musical tastes, especially in terms of musicianship.

Fave tracks: Hemispheres, La Villa Srangiato, The Trees
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Post by: Zydar on October 09, 2012, 06:46:53 AM
Two great albums for sure :tup
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 09, 2012, 06:59:00 AM
2 albums that get regular spins for me.  Alex's playing on Hemisphere's is second to none.  I would kill to see the title track played live.  (Though I do have a bootleg :biggrin:)
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Post by: Nekov on October 09, 2012, 07:11:47 AM
ADTOE is super overrated.

Hemispheres is a great album
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 09, 2012, 07:25:54 AM
ADTOE is super.  Period.

Hemispheres is a great album

Fix'd.  Good update TAC.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 09, 2012, 07:48:30 AM
Best.Saxon.Album.Ever  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Zydar on October 09, 2012, 07:53:48 AM
I'm a Saxon noob but I've always thought that Denim And Leather, Strong Arm Of The Law, and Wheels Of Steel was considered their best ones/classics, and that the decline started with Power & The Glory. The reviews I've seen for that album were mostly negative. I guess it goes to show that you shouldn't rely that much on reviews and just listen to the music and judge it yourself.
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 08:00:36 AM
I'm a Saxon noob but I've always thought that Denim And Leather, Strong Arm Of The Law, and Wheels Of Steel was considered their best ones/classics, and that the decline started with Power & The Glory. The reviews I've seen for that album were mostly negative. I guess it goes to show that you shouldn't rely that much on reviews and just listen to the music and judge it yourself.
The classic early Saxon albums are all great. But I compare the jump from Denim And Leather to Power And The Glory to AC/DC going from Highway To Hell to Back In Black.
The follow up to P&G is Crusader. That is a great album to itself. It caught a lot of flack in England because of the song Sailing To America. A look of desperation to break the US market. But it is still a great album. They would definitely take a stepback after Crusader and the rest of the 80's was somewhat spotty.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 09, 2012, 08:07:36 AM
Yeah, that's strange, because I've got all of Saxon's albums except for the most recent ones and to me their three best are Denim & Leather, Power & The Glory and Crusader, with P&TG being (at least from my perspective) the pinnacle of their creative abilities.



Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 08:11:01 AM
Yeah, that's strange, because I've got all of Saxon's albums except for the most recent ones and to me their three best are Denim & Leather, Power & The Glory and Crusader, with P&TG being (at least from my perspective) the pinnacle of their creative abilities.
Their last half dozen albums are incredible. Some of the best stuff they've ever done.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 09, 2012, 08:14:13 AM
Really?  Now you tell me  :lol   Alright, any particular stand outs? 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 08:30:41 AM
The latest run really started with Lionheart. Since then, they've released The Inner Sanctum, Into the Labyrinth, and their most recent, Call To Arms. They are all excellent. Jorge Michael plays drums on Lionheart, but after that Nigel Glockner returns and sounds great.

Also, this past year, they released Heavy Metal Thunder: Eagles Over Wacken. It's a live multi CD/DVD package that kicks absolute ass!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 09, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
Really?  Now you tell me  :lol   Alright, any particular stand outs?
I don't have any of the newer albums, but if you check out the Wacken concert (which is awesome, BTW), you'll hear a good sampling. 

I was somewhat disappointed with Denim and Leather after Strong Arm, which was one of those defining albums for me.  It wasn't bad, it just wasn't as good as SAotL, and neither came close to P&G.

And I agree with Herr Nekov.

edit:
Also, this past year, they released Heavy Metal Thunder: Eagles Over Wacken. It's a live multi CD/DVD package that kicks absolute ass!
Is that something different than the Wacken dvd they released about 5 years ago?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 08:49:02 AM


edit:
Also, this past year, they released Heavy Metal Thunder: Eagles Over Wacken. It's a live multi CD/DVD package that kicks absolute ass!
Is that something different than the Wacken dvd they released about 5 years ago?
TBH I am not sure what was released 5 years ago.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 09, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
Saxon is one of the most consistent metal bands ever. Always releasing quality material; if you haven't heard their recent, Call to Arms, do it. Like TAC, I was very happy with DTOE. I would rank it top three DT. Hemispheres is top three Rush for me as well.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 09, 2012, 09:38:02 AM


edit:
Also, this past year, they released Heavy Metal Thunder: Eagles Over Wacken. It's a live multi CD/DVD package that kicks absolute ass!
Is that something different than the Wacken dvd they released about 5 years ago?
TBH I am not sure what was released 5 years ago.
What I was referring to was a 03 release of their 01 Wacken show.  The new one appears to be a best of 3 latter WOA shows, and a live CD from Glasgow.  I had no idea they played Wacken so often.  Considering they either headline or play late on the main stage every year, I'd say that they're thankfully doing pretty well in places that aren't the USofA. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 09, 2012, 03:39:44 PM
TAC as you might imagine, I don't relate to a lot of stuff on your list... some of it is downright alien to me  ;D.   

Definitely some albums that're off the beaten track, especially the Blackfoot, Heavy Pettin, Armored Saint and Lucifers Friend.   I'm gonna have to check into the Blackfoot, Saxon (not to be confused with Samson  :facepalm:), Gary Moore, F&J and maybe even the Hammerfail!   :eek               
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 09, 2012, 03:49:56 PM
P&G is the best Saxon album for me. Love it. The decline started after that with Crusader etc. Recent albums have been pretty good.

ADTOE is great. Good to see it in a top 50.

Hemispheres is not a great Rush album for me. Side 2 is great but the title track is poor after the awesome AFTK. Shit cliched story too.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 03:57:10 PM
TAC as you might imagine, I don't relate to a lot of stuff on your list... some of it is downright alien to me  ;D.   

Definitely some albums that're off the beaten track, especially the Blackfoot, Heavy Pettin, Armored Saint and Lucifers Friend.   I'm gonna have to check into the Blackfoot, Saxon (not to be confused with Samson  :facepalm:), Gary Moore, F&J and maybe even the Hammerfail!   :eek               
Hey LV, nice to see you round these parts! I would tell you to just follow my fave tracks, but knowing you, you'll like every song BUT those! ;D

Heavy Pettin' is NOT for you. Hammerfall is just a celebration of the 80's glory days of metal. I don't know why people don't like them. If anything, I credit them for other 80's bands upping their game, similar to WASP motivating Alice Cooper to come back better than ever in 1986.
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Post by: Mladen on October 09, 2012, 04:04:06 PM
The latest run really started with Lionheart. Since then, they've released The Inner Sanctum, Into the Labyrinth, and their most recent, Call To Arms. They are all excellent. Jorge Michael plays drums on Lionheart, but after that Nigel Glockner returns and sounds great.
The run from Metalhead up to including The Inner Sanctum is pretty great. I wasn't that excited about the last two albums, Call to arms was especially average.

As for the latest update, two excellent albums indeed.  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 09, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
I mention Lionheart as the starting point because it is what got me back into Saxon. It was the first Saxon album that I had bought in over 15 years.
I have since filled in my collection and their 90's albums really are terrific.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 06:11:04 AM
OK, update today. I have the day off so I should be able to pump out a couple.

28. Metallica- And Justice For All (1988)

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Funny thing with me and Metallica. When Kill ' Em All came out, I loved it and was a huge fan. Kind of lost track of them for a few years as I didn't think that Ride The Lightning was that great and I couldn't get into Master Of Puppets. In the summer of 88, they released Garage Days Rerevisited with new bassist Jason Newsted. I loved the fun album cover so I took a chance. It had the raw energy of Kill Em All so it really primed me for their upcoming release (Justice) and ultimately got me back into Metallica. I love this album. This came out the week I returned for my junior year of college, and let's just say that my roomate and I partied to this album more than any other that year. Love the long songs and killer riffs. My favorite Hetfield album vocally. I would see this tour 5 times and loved everything about it. Blackened is probably my favorite Metallica song.

Fave tracks: Blackened, Frayed Ends Of Sanity, Dyer's Eve

27. Def Leppard- High n Dry (1981)

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Really one of the most influential albums of my musical life. This album still rocks today. It is much heavier than their debut, On With The Night. The predecessor to pyromania, High n Dry has Def Leppard ripping it up. I still listen to this regularly today.  This album took me from my original Big 3 (Van Halen, Rush, AC/DC) and added a new favorite band. Hey, we're talking 7th/8th grade here!     I played this cassette so much, I had to buy a second one! Driving crunching riffs, a great performanc by Joe Elliot, screaming and wailing all over this. This is young, raw, energetic and to me, epitomozes the NWOBHM to me.

Fave tracks:
Let It Go, Mirror Mirror, On Through The Night, Another Hit And Run
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 11, 2012, 06:51:02 AM
So wait, you don't like Master of Puppets?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Nekov on October 11, 2012, 06:52:56 AM
And justice for all is a great album

So wait, you don't like Master of Puppets?

Yeah, what the hell?
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 11, 2012, 06:57:13 AM
re: Hemispheres:
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbay7aTlQL1ql71nmo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 07:00:53 AM
OK..let me explain. I LOVE Master Of Puppets. After Ride The Lightning came out, I kind of lost touch with thrash and went in a more Maiden/Dio direction. I remember when MOP came out, I had tix to see them open for Ozzy. So I borrowed the album from a friend, and I just couldn't get converted. It was cool and all, but I just didn't connect.
Ozzy cancelled the show I was supposed to go to. So the following summer, I hear that they are releaseing an EP with their new bass player. When I saw the cover, I just thought they looked cleaner, more fun. The photo has this great vibe to it. I was kind of turned off to thrash because, I don't know..Anyway, I bought the EP and loved it.
I would get Justice when it came out, and fell back in love with Metallica from that point on. I then went back and got MOP and RTL (I traded my copy away years earlier).
So to clarify, I was NOT into Metallica when MOP came out. But obviously, MOP is frreaking incredible, and my CD collection would be incomplete without it!
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Post by: Nekov on October 11, 2012, 07:09:01 AM
 :rollin @Mora

@TAC:  :tup I was starting to think you were crazy
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Post by: Cyclopssss on October 11, 2012, 07:11:22 AM
I remember buying AJFA on vinyl. At the time I owned a shitty plastic turntable with really small crappy speakers. When I played it, it almost blew the speakers out, specially the bass/low end. For an album that is famous for it's 'not having any bass on it', I remember it mostly for the bassnotes almost ruining the listening experience for me.

Not long after that I went out and bought me some big ass KEF speakers and a brand new Pioneer turntable...  :metal
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Post by: LudwigVan on October 11, 2012, 07:13:21 AM
AJFA is an awesome album.   I still have my vinyl copy from the 80s.

Kinda bittersweet for me, as AJFA marked the turning point from which they went full out with the longer 'proggy' expositions, back to the shorter bluesier songs on TBA and Load (which are excellent albums in their own right, just not at the same level as AJFA).   And I loved those acoustic/classical guitar-inspired preludes leading right into the heavy riffs, but they didn't quite fit into the "Alternica" sound they were going for on Load.   
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 07:23:08 AM
@TAC:  :tup I was starting to think you were crazy
I was i on the ground floor with thrash when I was a freshman in high school. I had Kill "em All, Anthrax's Fisful, the first Merciful Fate, Tank, etc...But I just fell out of favor with it for the next 3 to 4 years because I really didn't care for the image, content, etc... I liked the music, but...
But the Garage Days EP and Justice, along with a certain Helloween album (more on that later!) would get me back into thrash, and opened the floodgates for bands like Megadeth, Slayer, etc. which I really got into while I was at college.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 07:57:07 AM
Great choice on Def Leppard. High and Dry is a great rock album.

I'm not a big Metallica fan. Some good tracks on AJFA but the biscuit tin drums killed it a bit.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2012, 08:00:39 AM
More great picks!
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Post by: LudwigVan on October 11, 2012, 08:15:15 AM
@TAC:  :tup I was starting to think you were crazy
I was i on the ground floor with thrash when I was a freshman in high school. I had Kill "em All, Anthrax's Fisful, the first Merciful Fate, Tank, etc...But I just fell out of favor with it for the next 3 to 4 years because I really didn't care for the image, content, etc... I liked the music, but...
But the Garage Days EP and Justice, along with a certain Helloween album (more on that later!) would get me back into thrash, and opened the floodgates for bands like Megadeth, Slayer, etc. which I really got into while I was at college.

You had the first Mercyful Fate??!!    :o
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 11, 2012, 08:22:31 AM
@TAC:  :tup I was starting to think you were crazy irretrievably broken as a human being

^This.  Thank goodness.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 08:26:49 AM
@TAC:  :tup I was starting to think you were crazy
I was i on the ground floor with thrash when I was a freshman in high school. I had Kill "em All, Anthrax's Fisful, the first Merciful Fate, Tank, etc...But I just fell out of favor with it for the next 3 to 4 years because I really didn't care for the image, content, etc... I liked the music, but...
But the Garage Days EP and Justice, along with a certain Helloween album (more on that later!) would get me back into thrash, and opened the floodgates for bands like Megadeth, Slayer, etc. which I really got into while I was at college.

You had the first Mercyful Fate??!!    :o

Yes, I borrowed the album from a kid and made a copy. Probably listened to it a couple times. Lost interest with the image.
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Post by: Mladen on October 11, 2012, 09:34:19 AM
And justice for all is pure awesomeness, I'm always happy to see it in someone's top 50.

I remember trying to get into Def Leppard with High n dry and thinking it was pretty cheesy, and I disliked their next album even more, so I kinda gave up on ever liking them.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 11, 2012, 11:11:20 AM
Sadly, Def Leppard would never release anything that was even remotely close to the quality of High -n- Dry, such wasted potential.  Oh, sure, they went on to become mega stars with their bubble-gum pop metal stuff and I'm happy they were successful, but I don't like anything they released after Pyromania, and even THAT one was only about 50% quality.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 11:49:05 AM
Sadly, Def Leppard would never release anything that was even remotely close to the quality of High -n- Dry, such wasted potential.  Oh, sure, they went on to become mega stars with their bubble-gum pop metal stuff and I'm happy they were successful, but I don't like anything they released after Pyromania, and even THAT one was only about 50% quality.
I completely agree!
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
26. Iron Maiden - Piece Of Mind (1983)

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Ok, Iron Maiden finally makes an appearance on my list. This was the first album from them that I was
"waiting" on. How would they follow up The Number Of The Beast was on everyone's mind. The band
definitely delivered. This might be my favorite performance by Bruce Dickinson. He just sounds so young
and powerful here. I love the tone of his voice. New drummer Nicko McBrain kicks off the album in grand
style. I use the beginning of Where Eagles Dare as my ringtone! Dave Murray and Adrian Smith continue to
craft their unique sound. Such classics as Die With Your Boots On, The Trooper, and Revelations. This
album has a ton of character and an endearing sound quality to it, one that I don't think has been matched
in their catalog.

Fave tracks: Where Eagles Dare, Die With Your Boots On, Still Life, Revelations



25. Ozzy Osbourne- Blizzard Of Ozz (1980) and Diary Of A Madman (1981)

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Here's a spot where I really couldn't pick one or the other. These two albums are so great.
A little story..I first became aware of Ozzy when I was in the 7th grade. My father taught high school and one
of his students brought in a cassette of Blizzard Of Ozz. Did my father like heavy metal? Hell no. But being
that my last name is Crowley, one of his students thought he might get a kick out of the song. Well, he
didn't...but I DID! This tape was incredible. And for years I thought Diary was even better. Seems as
though Blizzard has caught up with it over time.
Needless to say, I have been serenaded with Mr. Crowley my entire life. It used to be a lot worse when I was
younger, but I get at least one reference a month even today.

Blizzard fave tracks: Mr. Crowley, I Don't Know, Revelation (Mother Earth)
Diary fave tracks: Diary Of A Madman, Over The Mountain, SATO

24. Waysted- The Good The Bad The Waysted (1985) AND Waysted EP (1984)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-flzo53zXDIg/T3LBufk9hDI/AAAAAAAADfg/Uu8gTl766is/s1600/Waysted-1985.jpg)
(https://www.rockunited.com/waysted_st.jpg)

I am not sure how many people will actually recognize these. Basically Waysted was formed when Pete Way
left UFO to form a band with "Fast" Eddie Clark, who had left Motorhead. Hence the band, Fastway!
Because Chrysalis would not let Pete Way out of his contract (they held the UFO rights), he was unable to
perform with Fastway, although he wrote all of the songs with Clark.
So he would form Waysted. Joining him was UFO alum Paul Raymond on keys and the unknown Fin Moore
on vocals. They realeased Vices in 1983, and even toured with a coveted spot 3rd on the bill on Ozzy's Bark
At The Moon tour along with Motley Crue.
Then in 1984, they landed a spot on Maiden's Enlgish tour. To get some new material out, they released
Waysted, an EP containing 5 tracks. Joining the band for this would be UFO drummer Andy Parker, and
another change in guitarists. This is a great EP and some awesome songs.
In 1985 they would release The Good The Bad The Waysted. The lineup was Way, Moore (vocals) Jerry
Shirley on drums and Paul Chapman from UFO on guitars. An awesome lineup. This would go on to be one
of the most listened to albums of the mid 80's. It's is just good solid hard rock with a little bit of a sleaze
factor courtesy of Fin Moore's vocals, who the best way to describe him would be a Brian Johnson type
that you can actually understand.

Anyway, check ' em out:
Waysted Fave tracks: Won't Get Out Alive, The Price You Pay, Cinderella Boys
TGTBTW fave tracks: Land That's Lost The Love, Manuel, Heaven Tonight, Crazy 'Bout The Stuff
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 01:53:13 PM
Both Ozzy albums are awesome- I lean more towards Diary personally, except for the abysmal Believer. In fact I prefer Ultimate Sin to Blizzard but all three are great albums. Bark never did it for me though.

Piece Of Mind is great too.

Was never a fan of Waysted but I did like No Sleep 'til Hammersmith era Motorhead briefly back in the day.

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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 11, 2012, 01:54:48 PM
That EP may be one of the greatest album covers ever.
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 01:56:03 PM
That EP may be one of the greatest album covers ever.
Sorry but I couldn't find a larger print. I actually have it on vinyl!!!
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2012, 01:56:29 PM
Ozzy - like Dio and Priest - was an act that slipped by me.  I never got deep into his stuff.

Maiden - for some unknown reason - I did.  Pound-for-pound, PoM is their strongest and most consistent album.  Not a bad track from start to finish.  Probably the only album of theirs that I can say that for.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 11, 2012, 01:56:56 PM
That EP may be one of the greatest album covers ever.
Sorry but I couldn't find a larger print. I actually have it on vinyl!!!

Probably for the best given the mood bosk is in.   :D ;)
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 11, 2012, 01:57:28 PM
^This
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Post by: LudwigVan on October 11, 2012, 03:38:14 PM
This list is starting to heat up now!   Not familiar with Waysted, but my ranking of the others are:

Piece of Mind
Diary of a Madman
Blizzard of Ozz

Even though Randy Rhoads gets a lot of attention for the Ozzy albums (and rightfully so), that rhythm section of Kerslake on drums and Daisley on bass were an integral part of that band's sound. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 03:46:30 PM
This list is starting to heat up now!   Not familiar with Waysted, but my ranking of the others are:

Piece of Mind
Diary of a Madman
Blizzard of Ozz

Even though Randy Rhoads gets a lot of attention for the Ozzy albums (and rightfully so), that rhythm section of Kerslake on drums and Daisley on bass were an integral part of that band's sound.
I agree but Randy really gave the band it's lift. That along with the material, of course. The other two Daisley/Kerslake albums that came out during this time were Uriah Heep's Abominog and Head East. Neither comes close to the Ozzy stuff.

That said, Kerslake was particularly good on Diary. That rythym section certainly gave those albums some punch.

Hey LV... Daisley or Bain?? :biggrin:
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Post by: TAC on October 11, 2012, 03:49:25 PM
My Top 5 Ozzy albums:
1 Diary Of A Madman
2. Blizzard Of Ozz
3. Bark At The Moon
4. No More Tears
5. Ozzmosis

Anyone else?
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Post by: Mladen on October 11, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Piece of mind  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 11, 2012, 04:33:06 PM
My Top 5 Ozzy albums:
1 Diary Of A Madman
2. Blizzard Of Ozz
3. Bark At The Moon
4. No More Tears
5. Ozzmosis

Anyone else?

I'll play

1 Diary
2 Ultimate Sin (big Jake fan)
3 Blizzard
4 Bark
5 No rest
The rest don't even make an impression
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Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on October 11, 2012, 05:37:43 PM
My Top 5 Ozzy albums:
1 Diary Of A Madman
2. Blizzard Of Ozz
3. Bark At The Moon
4. No More Tears
5. Ozzmosis

Anyone else?

1. Diary of a Madman
2. Blizzard of Ozz
3. Bark at the Moon
4. The Ultimate Sin
5. Ozzmosis
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 11, 2012, 05:42:13 PM
POM is my favorite Maiden album of all time!!  You also can't go wrong with the first 2 Ozzy's.  Absolute classics.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2012, 07:05:43 PM
classic Maiden album

1) Diary
2) Bark at the Moon
3) Ultimate
4) Blizzard
5) No Rest/Ozzmosis
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Post by: Big Hath on October 11, 2012, 07:30:04 PM
first mention of both Piece of Mind and Diary in any list
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Post by: El Barto on October 11, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
Kerslake and Daisly are what made Diary such an awesome album.  It's really dominated by the rhythm section.  Blizzard was all about Rhodes and Airy, and never really did it for me.  It's not bad, but it's no Diary, either. 

I still think Waysted is an urban legend.  On a couple of occasions they were scheduled to open shows down here, and they never showed up. 
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Post by: Nekov on October 11, 2012, 08:36:32 PM
Piece of mind  :metal. It was the first Maiden album I listened to and got me immediately.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 11, 2012, 10:20:28 PM
first mention of both Piece of Mind and Diary in any list

whoa, thats a surprise
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Post by: Zydar on October 12, 2012, 01:52:04 AM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 05:31:16 AM
 

I still think Waysted is an urban legend.  On a couple of occasions they were scheduled to open shows down here, and they never showed up.

They opened the Ozzy/Motley show in 83, which I missed..not allowed to go to shows yet! Damn.. and Maiden's Shomewhere In Time tour in 87. That was the "Americanized" version with Danny Vaughn on vocals.

Bart, you might like these two Waysted releases that I listed. Some great dirty guitar soundas well as the vocals also have a dirty sleazey feel.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 05:33:40 AM
OK, three more to chew on for the weekend. Next update will either be Monday or Tuesday morning...

23. AC/DC- Let There Be Rock

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My favorite AC/DC album.  This album kicks ass! A lot heavier than Highway To Hell, which is an essential
albums in its own right. Great tracks like Let the Be Rock and Whole Lotta Rosie would become concert
staples for years to come. A great reworking of Problem Child, hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be...Wow, this
album never stops. Angus is just insane on this, one of his best and loosest performances on any AC/Dc
album. This is easily the hardest rocking of all of the Bon Scott era albums, and I never get sick of
listening to it.

Fave tracks: Whole Lotta Rosie, Let The De Rock, Bad Boy Bogie

22. Thin Lizzy- Bad Reputation

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3590/3316594910_671fa4d15f.jpg)

With apologies to Jailbreak, I must say that Bad Reputation is easily my favorite Brian Robertson era
album. he left right after the album was recroded. Heck, they even left him off the album cover!
This album just has so much character. Phil Lynott, the great storyteller, is in fin form here, bringing to life
such great tracks as Dancing In The Moonlight, The Opium Trail, and Southbound. This Lizzy was a major
influence on Iron maiden and you can really here it on this album. If you closed your eyes and listened to
the Opium Trail, you would think it's Nicko himself playing the drums.
A great line from Dear Lord, " Dear lord, Take the time. I believed your story, Now you believe mine"

Fave tracks: Southbound, Dancing In The Moonlight, Bad reputation

21. UFO- Walk On Water

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a4/UFO_walk_on_water_jap.jpg)

This is the 1993 reunion of the classic UFO lineup that appeared on Lights Out-Obsession-Strangers In
The Night. I never thought I would see th day that Michael Schenker would return to UFO, but it happened,
and this album is dynamite. It is a fantastic updated sounding album that is very powerful. Schenkler just
rips all over it, along with that classic Phil Mogg delivery and lyrics. Phil Mogg is the most underrated
vocalist of his generation. From the opening powerhouse Self Made Man to the exquisite Dreaming Of
Summer, this album is classic UFO brought into the modern day.

Fave tracks: Dreaming Of Summer, Self Made Man, Pushed To The Limit, Darker Days
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 12, 2012, 05:34:50 AM
Love that Lizzy record.
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Post by: Zydar on October 12, 2012, 05:37:45 AM
Brian Robertson wasn't even on that album actually. He had busted his hands in a bar fight so Scott Gorham had to record all the guitar parts himself.

Great album nonetheless :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
Brian Robertson wasn't even on that album actually. He had busted his hands in a bar fight so Scott Gorham had to record all the guitar parts himself.

Great album nonetheless :tup
I did not know that! Nice. I know Gary Moore would do the tour.
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Post by: Mladen on October 12, 2012, 06:18:42 AM
Let there be rock and Bad reputation are certainly among the best hard rock records of all time.  :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 12, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
Love that ACDC record. My favorite Thin Lizzy disc is by far Thunder & Lightning
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 07:07:05 AM
Love that ACDC record. My favorite Thin Lizzy disc is by far Thunder & Lightning
T&L is great. No surprise that you like that album. It is really incredible.
I love the lyrics to Heart Attack. Kind of fitting as the last song in Thin Lizzy's discography.
"Mama, I'm dying..."
Gives me goosebumps every time I hear it.
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Post by: WebRaider on October 12, 2012, 08:11:51 AM
As I figured, love the era of many of these albums coming up in your list. Of course I'm a huge fan of the Metallica and Maiden albums and because I couldn't decide on which of Blizz or Diary to list I just went with the Tribute live album which has a lot of both. I'm a massive Ozzy fan so those additions are winners in my book.

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Post by: El Barto on October 12, 2012, 08:20:33 AM
They opened the Ozzy/Motley show in 83
Cancelled at the last minute.

and Maiden's Shomewhere In Time tour in 87.
Nope.  Vinnie Vincent's Invasion opened that.  Waysted was usually scheduled as the first of two openers, so I'm guessing that was another cancellation.   

Something I'm curious about UFO.  Phil Mogg always sounds great in the studio, but I've never seen a video of them live where he didn't sound really weak.  Was he just one of those guys like Tony Martin that wasn't a live singer, or is it just bad luck that the only videos (even from the SitN era) are from crappy nights? 
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 12, 2012, 08:33:20 AM
Some interesting updates.  Those Ozzy albums are great and Piece of Mind is a classic  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 10:13:15 AM
Bart, interesting question about Mogg live. I have never had a problem with him. I own very live album they have and countless boots. But I love him.
I will try and go through my recordings to find a good performance to recommend to you. He is very good on the Live In Tokyo 92 album. The whole band is smoking on that.

The other thing to remember is that in the 70's/ early 80's they toured relentlessly, plus they were big time partyers. Mogg was half in the bag on most nights. Compare him to other singers of that generation. Tyler, Plant,Ozzy, he was still better than them. IMHO  of course.
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Post by: wkiml on October 12, 2012, 12:30:43 PM
Bart, interesting question about Mogg live. I have never had a problem with him. I own very live album they have and countless boots. But I love him.
I will try and go through my recordings to find a good performance to recommend to you. He is very good on the Live In Tokyo 92 album. The whole band is smoking on that.

The other thing to remember is that in the 70's/ early 80's they toured relentlessly, plus they were big time partyers. Mogg was half in the bag on most nights. Compare him to other singers of that generation. Tyler, Plant,Ozzy, he was still better than them. IMHO  of course.

Surprised you didn't recommend Strangers?

Paul Raymond mentions that knowing they were recording the album that night they only drank one bottle of Canadian Club before the gig instead of the usual 2

HH: So the first UFO album that you were involved with was Lights Out?

PR: Yes, in 1977. It was a quite a ground-breaking record, followed by Obsession. I wrote songs on both those albums, but because of a complication with a prior publishing deal, I wasn’t credited for them. Then there was Strangers in the Night. That album kind of cemented our place in the rock hierarchy at that time. It’s still regarded today as one of the best live Rock albums and seems to have endured the test of time.

HH: Reputedly there was very little re-recording after the event, is this true or just a romantic myth?

PR: No, there really wasn’t a lot done. Everyone was aware that it was being recorded by Ron Nevison, one of the great task-masters of the recording industry, and so everyone was on their toes, so to speak. There was only one bottle of Canadian Club drunk before the gig instead of two! (laughs)

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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 01:10:28 PM
Well, I figured Bart was already familiar with Strangers. Let's just say that we'll have a chance to discuss that album in the future. ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2012, 02:22:17 PM
Three great bands there.
I love UFO but I've never heard this album.
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Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 02:39:39 PM
Three great bands there.
I love UFO but I've never heard this album.
Lowdz, you MUST get Walk On Water. At least sample the tracks. Dreaming Of Summer is a UFO Top 10 song for me. Classic Phil Mogg storytelling.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 12, 2012, 02:43:59 PM
Three great bands there.
I love UFO but I've never heard this album.
Lowdz, you MUST get Walk On Water. At least sample the tracks. Dreaming Of Summer is a UFO Top 10 song for me. Classic Phil Mogg storytelling.

Will do.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 12, 2012, 02:48:08 PM
This list is starting to heat up now!   Not familiar with Waysted, but my ranking of the others are:

Piece of Mind
Diary of a Madman
Blizzard of Ozz

Even though Randy Rhoads gets a lot of attention for the Ozzy albums (and rightfully so), that rhythm section of Kerslake on drums and Daisley on bass were an integral part of that band's sound.
I agree but Randy really gave the band it's lift. That along with the material, of course. The other two Daisley/Kerslake albums that came out during this time were Uriah Heep's Abominog and Head East. Neither comes close to the Ozzy stuff.

That said, Kerslake was particularly good on Diary. That rythym section certainly gave those albums some punch.

Hey LV... Daisley or Bain?? :biggrin:

Tough one but I take Bain. The cool thing about Daisley was that he loved to play those big juicy fat-sounding bass notes, which made his sound unique.

TAC you were the one that got me into both UFO and Thin Lizzy. But I haven't really warmed up to reunion-era UFO, and I prefer Jailbreak and Black Rose over Bad Reputation.
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Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 12, 2012, 03:04:36 PM
My Top 5 Ozzy albums:
1 Diary Of A Madman
2. Blizzard Of Ozz
3. Bark At The Moon
4. No More Tears
5. Ozzmosis

Anyone else?

I'm with you 100% on that TAC.  Same order.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 12, 2012, 03:35:35 PM
Tough one but I take Bain. The cool thing about Daisley was that he loved to play those big juicy fat-sounding bass notes, which made his sound unique.
Out of curiosity, what Bain work are you basing that on?  I've always held Daisly in the highest regard, and never thought much of Bain, despite being the ultimate Dio fan.  Even in Rainbow, I always felt Daisly kicked his ass.  Not giving you shit over your opinion, but I'm genuinely curious if I'm missing something. I'd love to find out I was wrong.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on October 12, 2012, 04:13:44 PM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).

I got goosebumps reading your post - I completely agree.  Diary of a Madman is my favorite Ozzy album, no contest.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
I'm with you 100% on that TAC.  Same order.
Cool, man. Thanks for popping into the thread, Doc!

Tough one but I take Bain. The cool thing about Daisley was that he loved to play those big juicy fat-sounding bass notes, which made his sound unique.
Out of curiosity, what Bain work are you basing that on?  I've always held Daisly in the highest regard, and never thought much of Bain, despite being the ultimate Dio fan.  Even in Rainbow, I always felt Daisly kicked his ass.  Not giving you shit over your opinion, but I'm genuinely curious if I'm missing something. I'd love to find out I was wrong.
LudwigVan and I have discussed this very point offline. Not that Daisley was better, but we each discussed each guy's work. I actually have a hard time figuring out exactly how good each guy is, but I figure if you can judge a guy by the company he keeps, BOTH are legendary.

I saw Gary Moore in 1987 and literally stood 6 ft from Bob Daisley.

Bob Daisley was writing a book. I wonder if it is out yet...
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 12, 2012, 05:42:52 PM

TAC you were the one that got me into both UFO and Thin Lizzy. But I haven't really warmed up to reunion-era UFO, and I prefer Jailbreak and Black Rose over Bad Reputation.
Hey that's cool.If we went out for beers, we'd probably order different brews, but we'd still have a good time! :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Zydar on October 13, 2012, 01:15:21 AM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).

I got goosebumps reading your post...

I have that effect on women :zydar:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 13, 2012, 04:24:00 PM
 :rollin :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 13, 2012, 05:21:17 PM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).

I got goosebumps reading your post - I completely agree.  Diary of a Madman is my favorite Ozzy album, no contest.

Both those drum intros are incredible, but let's not forget Painkiller!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 13, 2012, 08:48:25 PM
Tough one but I take Bain. The cool thing about Daisley was that he loved to play those big juicy fat-sounding bass notes, which made his sound unique.
Out of curiosity, what Bain work are you basing that on?  I've always held Daisly in the highest regard, and never thought much of Bain, despite being the ultimate Dio fan.  Even in Rainbow, I always felt Daisly kicked his ass.  Not giving you shit over your opinion, but I'm genuinely curious if I'm missing something. I'd love to find out I was wrong.

No, there's no right or wrong here. I just happened to love Bains's work on the first 2 Dio albums. I love when the bass sound is in-your-face. But yeah, it's hard to argue against Daisley's work on the Ozzy albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Jirpo on October 13, 2012, 10:12:18 PM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).

I got goosebumps reading your post - I completely agree.  Diary of a Madman is my favorite Ozzy album, no contest.

Both those drum intros are incredible, but let's not forget Painkiller!!
Yeah, Painkiller wins this contest!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 13, 2012, 11:45:58 PM
Speaking of drum intros (Where Eagles Dare), one of my favourites are from Ozzy's Over The Mountain. Love that intro (and whole album).

I got goosebumps reading your post - I completely agree.  Diary of a Madman is my favorite Ozzy album, no contest.

Both those drum intros are incredible, but let's not forget Painkiller!!
Yeah, Painkiller wins this contest!
Painkiller's a good intro, but Exciter is better.  I think it tops all the ones mentioned thus far. 

A fact that really can't be stated strongly enough is that Les Binks fucking rules. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2012, 06:17:28 AM
What? No mention of Dave Holland's incredible Living After Midnight intro? ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2012, 06:18:24 AM
I'll just mention that I want another update to the list!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2012, 06:23:13 AM
Thanks JB. I am working all day. Next update will be first thing tomorrow morning. We will be in the Top 20. Like the last few, they will be truly special albums to me. Nothing from this point on should surprise anyone.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 14, 2012, 06:24:45 AM
 :tup :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 14, 2012, 06:50:42 AM
What? No mention of Dave Holland's incredible Living After Midnight intro? ;D

Buuu Daaa,  Buuu Buu Daaa,  Buuu Daa, Buu Buuu Daaa


I wanted to make you feel better. :biggrin:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2012, 06:56:20 AM
What? No mention of Dave Holland's incredible Living After Midnight intro? ;D

Buuu Daaa,  Buuu Buu Daaa,  Buuu Daa, Buu Buuu Daaa


I wanted to make you feel better. :biggrin:
I feel much buudaa now!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 14, 2012, 07:01:07 AM
That will be $5 for touching the budda belly.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2012, 07:06:43 AM
I have a question for Bart, or anyone else that can answer. I am not up on my Judas Priest history, but what were the circumstances behind Les Binks leaving?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 14, 2012, 07:32:25 AM
I think it was more or less just musical differences.  He was definitely impressive in his time with the band.
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Post by: El Barto on October 14, 2012, 05:36:18 PM
They wanted somebody who was a more straight-forward player.  Binks was a very creative drummer, but they wanted that LLAM drum work that you were [rightly] making fun of.  Basically, Les Binks was too good for what they wanted, so they sacked him and brought in Holland.  Worst personnel move in the history of music, AFAIC. 

Priest was always one to change their style with the times.  Eventually, Holland was woefully inadequite for their new direction, so they canned him for Scott Travis. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 14, 2012, 05:53:50 PM
Eventually, Holland was woefully inadequite for their new direction, so they canned him for Scott Travis.
Which was one of the best personell moves in music history!

What did Binks do after Priest?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 14, 2012, 06:17:43 PM
Eventually, Holland was woefully inadequite for their new direction, so they canned him for Scott Travis.
Which was one of the best personell moves in music history!
They lose points because Binks could have done everything they needed Travis for, better.  They needed Travis because Holland couldn't play double kick, since he was never a metal drummer to begin with.  Binks was doing it better than either of them back in the 70's (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqFkUPv0WCY).

And Binks didn't do anything after Priest, outside of local gigs around London.  When I was over there, I actually checked around for the unlikely chance that he was playing some club somewhere.  He's actually near the top of the list of people I'd like to buy a beer.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 15, 2012, 03:17:38 AM
Les has always been Priest's best drummer.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2012, 06:21:09 AM
So, to recap 21-50:

50. Judas Priest-Screaming For Vengeance
49. Blackfoot-Siogo
48. Heavy Pettin' - Lettin, Loose
47. Heavenly- Dust To Dust
46. Led Zeppelin- Physical Graffiti
45. Y&T- Mean Streak
44. Anthrax- Stomp 442
43. Aerosmith- Night In The Ruts
42. Tesla- Mechanical Resonance
41. Hammerfall- Legacy Of Kings
40. The Sweet- Desolation Boulevard
39. Armored Saint- Symbol Of Salvation
38. Flotsam & Jetsam- No Place For Disgrace AND When The Storm Comes Down
37. Dream Theater- When Day And Dream REunite
36. Kiss- Hotter Than Hell
35. Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
34. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power
33. Queensryche- Warning AND Operation Mindcrime
32. Saxon- Power And The Glory
31. Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine
30. Dream Theater- A Dramatic Turn Of Events
29. Rush- Hemispheres
28. Metallica- And Justice For All
27. Def Leppard- High n Dry
26. Iron Maiden- Piece Of Mind
25. Ozzy Osbourne- Blizzard Of Ozz AND Diary Of A Madman
24. Waysted- The Good The Bad The Waysted AND the Waysted EP
23. AC/DC- Let There Be Rock
22. Thin Lizzy- Bad Reputation
21. UFO- Walk On Water
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2012, 06:23:35 AM
OK..into the Top 20 we go!


20. Rainbow- On Stage (1977)

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Back during my 7th grade summer, I traded my cassette to led Zeppelin II to my much older cousin for his Rainbow On Stage. From that day on, I have been in love with this album, and especially Ronnie James Dio. This is a terrific live album by a powerful band. Yes, there's tons of Blackmore's noodling, and it's not even that annoying, as it actually helps set up the band's power. The rythym section of Cozy Powell and Jimmy Bain is incredible, with Powell's heavy drumming style pushing the band. But to me, the star of the show here is Dio. His performance on Catch The Rainbow is spectacular.

Fave tracks: Catch The Rainbow, Kll The King, 16th Century Greensleeves, Still I'm Sad

19. Accept- Metal Heart (1985)

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/dfree/warehouse/album_art/eabf00ce-fd05-11e1-b97a-12313918150d.?1347473765)

I first heard Accept on a local heavy metal radio show in 1983 when they played Fast As A Shark. I was blown away. Really one of the first Power Metal songs, but this band was not a power metal band. They were a refined Bon Scott era AC/DC influenced 80's metal band. Throw in a huge UFO influence, particularly Wolf Hoffman's Michael Schenker induced melodic metal solos and you get Accept. Wolf Hoffman was probably the most underrated metal guitarist on the 80's along with Andy Laroque. Both are similar in style, especially the Schenker influence. But this music is not the progressive metal that King Diamond was playing. This was straight ahead in the pocket metal.
Accept would mature over the years from Restless And Wild ('83) to Balls To The Wall ('84) to ultimately making a great record in Metal Heart. Great songwriting (Dogs On Leads, Up To The Limit) along with a bombastic opener (Metal Heart) and closer (Bound To Fail), which if you have never heard this song, play it NOW, as it ends with the most glorious 2:20 in metal. The outro gives me chills even today.
I say Accept on this tour open for Maiden (Powerslave tour!) and they put on the second best opening set I have ever seen.

Fave tracks: Bound To Fail, Dogs On Leads, Metal Heart
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Scorpion on October 15, 2012, 07:12:03 AM
Metal Heart :heart
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on October 15, 2012, 07:28:23 AM
Metal Heart has an all-time great rhythm guitar tone. Love Wolf's playing.

Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 15, 2012, 07:37:56 AM
Metal Heart has an all-time great rhythm guitar tone. Love Wolf's playing.
That TONE! Yes, indeed. And those solos! He has carried that tone on the two current Accept albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 15, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
The video for midnight mover will give you a seizure; besides that, cool picks.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 15, 2012, 01:02:56 PM
Blasphemy... I love Ritchie Blackmore's noodling!   

I got into Accept big-time with Restless and Wild.  Back in the 80s, that album was on my turntable for months.  But I have to admit that I now have a difficult time listening to Udo Dirkschneider for a full album. 


Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 15, 2012, 01:14:04 PM
I am so, SO hoping to see :TAC: in the top 10.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 15, 2012, 03:42:07 PM
Blackmore  :hefdaddy :heart :hefdaddy :heart

Accept are one of those bands I would love if they had a different singer, and now they have. I can't abide Udo's voice and even though the new guy sounds like him he's so much better. Love hoffman's playing. Saw them at the Monsters Of Rock at Donington in 1984 and enjoyed them but on record Udo kills it (in a bad way).
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Post by: TAC on October 15, 2012, 04:36:27 PM
Absolute Fuc#ing Jibberish!
You crazy, fool!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 15, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
Great live album.  Man I haven't heard it in years.  I know my cousin has the CD. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Destiny Of Chaos on October 15, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
Dimmu Borgir's cover of Metal Heart is awesome.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2012, 05:03:00 AM
Love Metal Heart.  I'm a Rainbow fan but never checked out that live album.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 05:35:27 AM
I'm a Rainbow fan but never checked out that live album.
I cannot believe that!

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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 05:37:05 AM

18. Riot- Narita (1979) and Fire Down Under (1981)

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I first heard of Riot while theyu were tourng with Rainbow and Scorps here in 1982. They were touring their current album Restless Breed and its hit, Showdown. I bought this and loved it. But I found out they had earlier albums with a different singer. I would buy Fire Down Under and Narita (the same day I bought Piece Of Mind when it came out!) One of the greatest hauls of my life! at 14!!
Anyway, I would say that Narita has been my favorite of the two, but Fire Down Under has definitely caught up to it.
This is good turn of the decade New York City club rock. Great songs, great solos, and the vocals of the late Guy Speranza, who had a unique style, sounding something like Bon Scott. I am not sure that much of this will resonate on DTF, but I would say that if you like Tesla, you may like this, as it is a earlier sounding version of them. Just good hard rock.
Check this band out!!!!

Fire Fave tracks: Fire Down Under, Outlaw, Alter Of The King, Swords And Tequila
Narita fave tracks: Waiting For The Taking, Here We Come Again, 49er, Road Racin


17. Alice Cooper- Welcome To My Nightmare(1975) AND Go To Hell (1976)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Welcome_To_My_Nightmare.jpg)(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1aQ8FGnMKeY/Tx7CbQIqbUI/AAAAAAAABuE/wOQVBzjTZw8/s1600/al1.jpg)

OK, finally we get to some Alice Cooper!
Welcome To My Nightmare was Alice's first solo album after he left the original Alice Cooper Band. Seems he wanted to continue with the rock "show" and the band was lessinterested in becoming his backup band...so they split. But Alice had it right, certainly on these first two solo albums, before his career would deteriorate in the late 70's due to his drinking.
Both albums are fairly similar in storylines. Alice has a nightmare. But there are definitely musical journeys. Alice gives a great vocal delivery on both. You cannot have one without the other. DTFers will find it interesting that Tony Levin plays on a few tracks on Go To Hell. Alice is a great storyteller who influenced so many. These are two classic rock albums, both very theatrical.
On Welcome To My Nightmare, the Steven Trilogy has to be heard to be believed! Years Ago-Steven-The Awakening are the 3 tracks. If you have never heard them, please give them a try. Unforgettably haunting.
Go To Ends with a great track called I'm Going Home. The ending sounds very similar to The Razor's Edge section of Octavarium.

Nightmare fave tracks: The Steven Trilogy,The Black Widow, Some Folks, Title track
Go To Hell fave tracks: Go To Hell, Didn't We Meet, I'm Going Home
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2012, 05:52:17 AM
Never got into Riot.  but I will give them a spin.

Those 2 Alice albums are top notch.  WTMN was a standard spin for my cousin and I many a days hanging out after school.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 16, 2012, 06:08:47 AM
Riot is in the same category as Y&T; straight up awesome hard rock and underrated.  Big fan of Cooper as well, my fave is Raise Your Fist and Yell.  And Wolf, I know you mentioned that you only buy new cds, but make an exception for Rainbow.  It is live Ronnie!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 06:30:03 AM
Riot is in the same category as Y&T; straight up awesome hard rock and underrated.  Big fan of Cooper as well, my fave is Raise Your Fist and Yell.  And Wolf, I know you mentioned that you only buy new cds, but make an exception for Rainbow.  It is live Ronnie!!
RYFAY is excellent. I saw that tour and got covered in blood in the front row at the Boston Garden. Roses On White Lace is a Top 10 Alice song for me! It is horrifically insane!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 16, 2012, 06:39:42 AM
Recently, the guys on "That Metal Show" did a top 5 on "Worst Album Covers".  They picked Fire Down Under as their #1 worst.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 06:45:15 AM
Recently, the guys on "That Metal Show" did a top 5 on "Worst Album Covers".  They picked Fire Down Under as their #1 worst.  :lol
Coz, have you ever heard it? You would like it. You should be all over Swords And Tequila.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 16, 2012, 07:01:56 AM
That mention on TMS was the first time I'd heard of it.  S-words and Tequila sounds good to me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 16, 2012, 07:09:45 AM
Yeaahhh Riot!! Fiiiree down under!! Great band!

Also, Gamma Ray, Tygers of Pantang! Rose Tattoo!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 16, 2012, 07:47:08 AM
Shit, Fire Down Under is incredible.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 16, 2012, 08:09:45 AM
Also, any of you guys heard of a band called 'KIX'? They were a cool sounding band, one of their songs was 'Kix are for kids'.   :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 16, 2012, 08:30:04 AM
^I had a Kix album when I was a kid.  Can't remember what it was called, though.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 16, 2012, 09:04:57 AM
Rcognize the name Kix, but can't recall any of their tunes.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 16, 2012, 09:12:40 AM
Whoa, seriously, nobody remembers Kix?  I guess it's just because they're from near this area that I remember them, but yeah, I guess I thought they were a bigger deal than they were.  They play every year at the M3 concert and they still put on a kick ass performance.  Cold Blood, Girl Money, Yeah Yeah Yeah, Body Talk, Blow My Fuse, Don't Close Your Eyes.  Good stuff.  Steve Whiteman has another band on the side, called Funny Money, with a few of the guys from Kix.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: King Postwhore on October 16, 2012, 09:22:56 AM
I never was a Kix fan.  They just never clicked for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 09:47:12 AM
Shit, Fire Down Under is incredible.
Amen, brother!

Also, any of you guys heard of a band called 'KIX'? They were a cool sounding band, one of their songs was 'Kix are for kids'.   :metal
I had their first album when I was a kid. It was excellent. I also had an awesome live tape the did from King Biscuit in 1983 that was incredible. I would lose track of them through the 80's and of course, Don't Close Your Eyes made me want to gag.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 16, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Whoa, seriously, nobody remembers Kix?  I guess it's just because they're from near this area that I remember them, but yeah, I guess I thought they were a bigger deal than they were.  They play every year at the M3 concert and they still put on a kick ass performance.  Cold Blood, Girl Money, Yeah Yeah Yeah, Body Talk, Blow My Fuse, Don't Close Your Eyes.  Good stuff.  Steve Whiteman has another band on the side, called Funny Money, with a few of the guys from Kix.


Whatever album that song is on, that's the one I had.  Didn't really like it much, though.  :-\
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 16, 2012, 11:04:44 AM
That was on Blow My Fuse.  To be fair, I don't care for "Don't Close Your Eyes" either.  Cold Blood, however, is an excellent tune.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 16, 2012, 11:08:21 AM
What I meant was I didn't really care much for the album, or the band for that matter.  They were....OK....but they were competing against stuff like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest, where I think they were kind of outclassed and outgunned.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 16, 2012, 11:11:22 AM
Off course they were outgunned. But you can´t deny there was a great batch of bands coming out back then. Blackfoot were a great band as well....
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 16, 2012, 11:27:05 AM
Sure there were plenty of decent groups back then.  Blackfoot wasn't really my cuppa either, though  :lol



Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 12:31:17 PM
Certainly Kix were never in Maiden's or Priest's league. But they weren't that kind of band, either. They were simple East Coast club rock, similar to what was going on in LA only there was no sleaze factor. They were kind of a cross between Slade and Randy era Quiet Riot. Good time fun rock.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 16, 2012, 12:55:21 PM
Kix kind of came of to me as a US version of Bon Scott AC/DC..not that there is anything wrong with that

Riot on the otherhand is one of my favorite bands EVER

Riot went through lots of fazes and members with Mark Reale being the only constant

With Guy...straight up hard rock

with Rhett..bit more bluesy but started experimenting with Speed Metal

with Tony..pretty much speed metal

with Mike T and Mike D....went back to hard rock but kept elements of speed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUysqemMmg.....with Tony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JruuMkV0gM....with Guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFbTbmBkos8....with Rhett
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 12:59:57 PM
Yeah wkiml, that pick was dedicated to you!
I never followed them after Born in America, which is a truly underrated album.
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Post by: wkiml on October 16, 2012, 01:04:18 PM
Yeah wkiml, that pick was dedicated to you!
I never followed them after Born in America, which is a truly underrated album.

Thank you Kind sir

The stuff with Tony Moore is amazing

The stuff with Mike and Mike is kind of hit and miss..some good stuff but lots of filler..Mark riffs are still top notch, but the vocal ranges with both Mikes left alot to be desired and the production wasn't done well either
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Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2012, 01:09:05 PM
this update falls into the "pretty good" category. Prefer the 80/early 90s output for AC. Riot are ok.

Never rated Kix personally, though I do have Sonic Dynamite.
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 01:23:02 PM
Prefer the 80/early 90s output for AC.
If I do a .v2, Hey Stoopid would definitely make the list. Incredible album!
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Post by: Lowdz on October 16, 2012, 01:29:54 PM
Prefer the 80/early 90s output for AC.
If I do a .v2, Hey Stoopid would definitely make the list. Incredible album!

Distinctly possible it may appear somewhere in my list. That guitar sound is awesome. And it has Vinnie Moore. And Satch and Vai. And err, Mick Mars...
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 01:39:41 PM
Also Eric Singer and Derek Sherinian. What a great band!
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 16, 2012, 01:44:02 PM
That singer from Kix always sort of reminded me of the guy from Great White
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 16, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
A little.  I've done openers for Steve's band Funny Money and though he's a great frontman, he's kind of a tool.  But as mentioned, an absolutely ridiculously charismatic frontman, even today.
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 02:08:30 PM
  :lol
When I was putting my list together, I wasn't expecting that we would have a one page discussion on Kix!
It's all good! Love talking music.
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Post by: TAC on October 16, 2012, 02:11:00 PM
Just read on Bravewords that Saxon's new album is in the can and they're looking at a Feb '13 release!!
 :metal :metal
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 16, 2012, 03:33:09 PM
Just read on Bravewords that Saxon's new album is in the can and they're looking at a Feb '13 release!!
 :metal :metal

That's good news!!
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Post by: Ruba on October 17, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Welcome to My Nightmare is great! Too bad they only played Black Widow, when I saw them live.
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2012, 01:14:27 PM
16. Iron Maiden- A Matter Of Life And Death (2006) AND The Final Frontier (2010)

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With Brave New World and Dance Of Death, I was more than pleased with the reunion era. Iron Maiden had really grown writing and playing wise. The return of Bruce was a success!
But when I first heard AMOLAD, I could not believe my ears. This was "next level" stuff!The songs were long, dark, heavy. The playing was top notch.
How would they follow that? Frankly, I was just happy Maiden was making another album. The Final Frontier came out, while we were vacationing in Chicago. I listened to it the whole way home with tears in my ears. The Lovely Mrs TAC thought I was nuts! They put out an album of equal quality, but colored it a bit brighter.  I think it's amazing that the band I fell in love with over 30 years ago has made a couple of the best albums of their career, rewarding this lifetime fan.

AMOLAD fave tracks:For The Greater Good Of God, Lord Of Light, Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
TFF fave tracks:The Talisman, Coming Home, The Man Who Would Be King
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 17, 2012, 01:23:58 PM
I really should pick up TFF.  AMOLAD is great, but of the reunion era albums, DoD is my preference.

:birch: Brighter Than A Thousand Suns :birch:
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Post by: Scorpion on October 17, 2012, 01:25:24 PM
Wow. I wouldn't have expected TFF to be on your list, to be honest, I always thought that you were a bigger fan of the older Maiden stuff.

AMOLAD is awesome, btw, and was featured on my list as well. Incredible album. :metal :metal
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Post by: Mladen on October 17, 2012, 01:51:47 PM
You keep cheating with placing two albums at one spot. But you're always picking great albums.  :biggrin: Can't argue with those favorite songs neither.  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
Wow. I wouldn't have expected TFF to be on your list, to be honest, I always thought that you were a bigger fan of the older Maiden stuff.

AMOLAD is awesome, btw, and was featured on my list as well. Incredible album. :metal :metal

Well, that's probably because I am an "older" Maiden fan. I just think the reunion albums have all been incredible. They have really challenged themselves to be relevant and it shows.
Now I am the biggest Maiden fan and I hold them in the highest regard, but even I did not think they had an album like AMOLAD in them. It's simply epic. And then they followed it up with an album that on its worst day is equal to it. TFF is a stunning album.

You keep cheating with placing two albums at one spot. But you're always picking great albums.  :biggrin:

Yeah I said that I would do that at the beginning. I will do it 3 more times in my countdown.

I really should pick up TFF.  AMOLAD is great, but of the reunion era albums, DoD is my preference.


Yes you should. I am glad you like DOD and AMOLAD, but TFF is colored a bit brighter, and I think that would appeal to you.
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Post by: Lowdz on October 17, 2012, 02:16:13 PM
Won't argue with AMOLAD, a great Maiden album, but TFF is nowhere near as good and I'd pick just about anything on your list so far over it.

My opinion counts for little as I guess I'm not a huge Maiden fan. Love their early stuff to Live After Death but it's been slim pickings for me from there. Always though Maiden should sound better on album than they do.
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Post by: LudwigVan on October 17, 2012, 02:47:19 PM
I originally found AMOLAD to be a chore to digest.  The music maintains the same dark brooding timbre, song after song throughout the entire album.   I've warmed up to it a bit more over time, but it ranks 3rd out of their 4 reunion-era albums. 

The Final Frontier on the other hand has a lot more "color" as you say... more variety of tone and in the playing.   I've mentioned it before, but I think TFF is where Maiden made a conscious effort to capture the sounds of 70's-era hard rock like Deep Purple, Cream, Hendrix, Wishbone Ash, Jethro Tull, etc., sorta like what Opeth did with Heritage.  It's not just straight-ahead heavy metal balls n' chunk anymore.  This decision actually works to open up the music on TFF to a broader sound palette.
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2012, 03:07:17 PM
Yeah, LV, you can see how they built on what was laid down with AMOLAD.
Both album reach a level that even I did not think they were capable of. I really tried hard to not getting hopes up for TFF and it just blew me away.
You are also right that TFF manages to work in their 70's influence like no other album they have ever done. That is the great dichotomy of TFF. They have pushed their writing and playing as far as they ever have yet managed to include blatantly those 70's influences that were far more subtle in the past.
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Post by: El Barto on October 17, 2012, 03:39:52 PM
Won't argue with AMOLAD, a great Maiden album, but TFF is nowhere near as good and I'd pick just about anything on your list so far over it.

My opinion counts for little as I guess I'm not a huge Maiden fan.
Well, I am a huge Maiden fan, and I agree with your initial assessment there.  AMoLaD is the best thing they've done since SSoaSS, but TFF didn't do much for me.  Considering how unique S15 was to begin the album, I was really stoked, but most of what followed sounded like filler to me.  WtWWB is a very good song, though.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 17, 2012, 03:46:02 PM
AMOLAD knocked my socks off.  Right up there with all Maiden albums.

TFF is very good but just a shade below AMOLAD but it's amazing to see a band get better with age.
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Post by: TAC on October 17, 2012, 03:48:47 PM
.  Considering how unique S15 was to begin the album, I was really stoked, but most of what followed sounded like filler to me.

One thing the reunion albums have lacked has been great openers. I might actually prefer the 4 reunion albums to PoM through 7th Son, but compare the openers:
Where Eagles Dare....The Wicker Man
Aces High...Wildest Dreams
Caught Somewhere In Time...Different World
Moonchild...TFF

A clean sweep for the 80's albums. I thought the build up of S15 was completely let down by TFF, not that I don't like the song, but it is misplaced on the album. Maiden needed an Aces High/Moonchild type burner after S15. That would be my biggest critique of TFF, and the reunion albums in general.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 17, 2012, 07:36:05 PM
All of the reunion albums are awesome, but you need to listen to them a number of times to digest everything.  Might be a chore, but it should click.  AMOLAD and Brave New World are neck and neck for me.
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Post by: wolfking on October 18, 2012, 03:47:14 AM
Interesting to see TFF on your list, it's good and definitely was a grower for me, but I love it a lot though.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 18, 2012, 05:07:12 AM
Of the comeback albums I very strongly prefer AMOLAD, and I thought Dance of Death was really weak.  The other two are...OK



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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 07:26:24 AM
Hey it's all good. AMOLAD was surely an album that would be difficult to follow. I consider AMOLAD to be a landmark album in Maiden's career. So while I really appreciate AMOLAD, I really enjoy TFF.

Anyway, we are now about to enter the Top 15. This is some rarefied air in the TAC collection. These albums are really the most important and enjoyable albums in my musical life.
So..speaking of Iron Maiden:














15. Iron Maiden- Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son (1988)

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I have been a Maiden fan my whole musical listening life. I have never been more of one in 1987-88. They had just released Somewhere In Time, an album I loved, and the tour still remains as one of my all time favorite conerts. So I was primed when Seventh Son came out. It was near the end on my sophomore year in college. I had nothing to do but listen to music. I fell instantly in love with 7th Son. Might not be crazy about CIPWM, but the rest of the album is fantastic. Starts off killer with Moonchild and moves right into Infinite Dreams, which remains a Top 5 Maiden song for me. The album has been rehashed here a tousand times, but to me, it it one of THE feel good albums in my collection. A time in my life when I was old enough to enjoy the hell out it and the tour, but young enough to have nothing to do but take it all in.

Fave tracks: Infinite Dreams, SSOASS, Moonchild, and yes..The Prophecy
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2012, 07:28:43 AM
 :metal
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Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on October 18, 2012, 08:55:52 AM
:metal
:metal
My favorite Maiden album
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2012, 09:03:51 AM
First Maiden disc I ever bought.  While CIPWM is pretty poppy, I've always dug it.  I guess since I was still fairly fresh into my musical transformation from radio-friendly pop music to rock/metal in 88, it had it's appeal to me.

And thus started the 12 year decline for IM.  Sorry, but I just have no love for the 90s, including Blaze's.
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 09:07:51 AM
And thus started the 12 year decline for IM.  Sorry, but I just have no love for the 90s, including Blaze's.
That is certainly understandable. Fear Of The Dark is pretty good though.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2012, 09:11:55 AM
The song?  Yeah.  The album?  Meh.
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 09:48:19 AM
The song?  Yeah.  The album?  Meh.
The album is easily 6 songs deep and on its best day it is 8 songs deep.
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Post by: wkiml on October 18, 2012, 10:10:49 AM
Maiden lost me as a die hard after Powerslave.....the albums that followed became all to "samey" for me , The Blaze albums IMO were abysmal and the reunion albums although good just didn't grab my interest..Still find myself listening to the Di'anno albums and NOTB quite often
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Post by: Scorpion on October 18, 2012, 10:22:24 AM
SSoaSS is fantastic. I ranked it even higher.  :metal :metal
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Post by: Lowdz on October 18, 2012, 11:32:23 AM
It's an ok album. Played it recently and it was ok. Some great songs (Moonchild, CIPWM, ID) and the rest is just average- and as a concept album it's lacking. I think the problem was that at the time I was into the Shrapnel guitarists and Maiden's guitarists just didn't cut it when compared to them. And as I've said before, I got it around the time I got Mindcrime and the two albums are poles apart for me. One pushed boundaries and one trod water.
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Post by: DebraKadabra on October 18, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
Maiden lost me as a die hard after Powerslave.....the albums that followed became all to "samey" for me , The Blaze albums IMO were abysmal and the reunion albums although good just didn't grab my interest..Still find myself listening to the Di'anno albums and NOTB quite often

They lost me after Somewhere In Time, but yeah - samey same, definitely agreed.
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 01:34:44 PM
It is funny how on some band's albums, half the fans think they peaked and the other half feel the decline had started. Always such a fine line. Interesting.
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Post by: Mladen on October 18, 2012, 02:22:04 PM
Fave tracks: Infinite Dreams, SSOASS, Moonchild, and yes..The Prophecy
Well done, sir.  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 18, 2012, 04:10:45 PM
OK, since I won't have time in the morning before I go to work, here is tommorow's update:

14. Rush- Moving Pictures (1981)

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This came out when I was in the 7th grade. I got into Rush with Moving Pictures and they would become one of my first favorite bands. I immedeately got the back catalog over the next year (Love the Columbia House Record And Tape Club!!). This album takes me away. Such vivid imagery (Red Barchetta, Witch Hunt) and such musicality (Tom Sawyer, YYZ). Rush would end up planting the seeds in my musical consciousness that would grow to become Dream Theater. Red Barchetta remains my favorite Rush song of all time. I still get goosebumps listening to it.

Fave tracks: Red Barchetta, Tom Sawyer, Limelight, The Camera Eye
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2012, 04:37:37 PM
All Rush is great, but this is the best Rush.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 18, 2012, 05:50:58 PM
Columbia House!!!!  My CD collection was built on the backs of that.

Excellent Rush... 2nd best for me.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 18, 2012, 10:04:34 PM
I think I still owe Columbia House 12 bucks from 1995
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Post by: Mladen on October 19, 2012, 01:12:42 AM
Great Rush album.  :tup
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Post by: DebraKadabra on October 19, 2012, 04:08:41 AM
I think I still owe Columbia House 12 bucks from 1995

Don't we all? :lol

GREAT album.  Not my favorite, but in my Top 5 Rush albums for sure.
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Post by: Zydar on October 19, 2012, 04:45:45 AM
Favourite Rush album :hefdaddy
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Post by: Ruba on October 19, 2012, 05:03:10 AM
:birch: Brighter Than A Thousand Suns :birch:

This.

Don't really care about AMOLAD or TFF. Overlong albums with a lack of decent musical ideas.

SSOASS is very good, and The Prophecy is a true gem. I have no idea why people doesn't like it.

Moving Pictures is excellent.
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2012, 06:49:24 AM
Seventh Son was the last IM album I got deep into until Brave New World in 2000.  Not that i didn't listen to No Prayer and Fear.  It was a great tour and a very good album.

Now Moving Pictures was what also got me into Rush and I as well went back through their catalog but not through Columbia House, (my cousin did that)

I got archives next to own the 1st 3 albums and then I went nuts bying everything.  Great album and top 20 for me.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 19, 2012, 06:59:34 AM
Red Barchetta remains my favorite Rush song of all time.

I assume you've heard the tribute version with JLB on vocals, right?
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2012, 07:50:36 AM
Red Barchetta remains my favorite Rush song of all time.

I assume you've heard the tribute version with JLB on vocals, right?

Working Man is awesome.  Particularly fond of Jacob's Ladder with Bach.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 19, 2012, 08:12:01 AM
That whole album slays from start to finish.  The only thing that irks me is Devin Townsend's Natural Science screech-fest.  Red Barchetta is one of the highlights of the album.  It has been a while since I've heard it, so I may have to go dig it out, because I'm having trouble recalling that version of Jacob's Ladder.  JP played on that, right?
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2012, 08:18:53 AM


I got archives next to own the 1st 3 albums and then I went nuts bying everything.  Great album and top 20 for me.
Rush Archives.. Forgot about that! Kind of like KISS The Originals!

BMG was a much better service than Columbia House.

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Post by: Nekov on October 19, 2012, 08:20:17 AM
Best Rush album  :tup
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 19, 2012, 08:24:46 AM
That whole album slays from start to finish.  The only thing that irks me is Devin Townsend's Natural Science screech-fest.  Red Barchetta is one of the highlights of the album.  It has been a while since I've heard it, so I may have to go dig it out, because I'm having trouble recalling that version of Jacob's Ladder.  JP played on that, right?

He did:

Jacob's Ladder (Lee/Lifeson/Peart) – 7:38
Sebastian Bach / lead vocals
John Petrucci / lead guitar
Matt Guillory / keyboards
Mike Portnoy / drums
Billy Sheehan / bass
Brendt Allman / rhythm guitar
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 19, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Oh yeah, and Billy Sheehan pulled out some fucking WICKED bass on The Trees.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 19, 2012, 09:45:54 AM
That Rush tribute album has some very cool tracks
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Post by: wkiml on October 19, 2012, 10:23:04 AM
TAC is going to come back into this thread and say "Not Again"  couple of pages back we got sidetracked on a conversation about KIX, now its about a Rush tribute album. at least this one is closer to topic  :lol
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Post by: TAC on October 19, 2012, 11:18:37 AM
TAC is going to come back into this thread and say "Not Again"  couple of pages back we got sidetracked on a conversation about KIX, now its about a Rush tribute album. at least this one is closer to topic  :lol
:lol
Well, at least the discussion is following a Rush album.

I can only hope that Humanary Stew will get as much attention as Working Man in the near future. ;)
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Post by: Lowdz on October 19, 2012, 01:35:19 PM
MP is  :hefdaddy

That tribute album is pretty good. Jack Russell's version of Analog Kid is really good.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 19, 2012, 04:15:31 PM
Oh hell yeah.  He sounds amazing on Analog Kid.

TAC, I can't remember if you'd said whether or not you ever heard the "Working Man" tribute.
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Post by: wolfking on October 19, 2012, 04:37:56 PM
The Subdivions tribute album has some excellent and interesting interpretations of Rush songs too.
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Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 19, 2012, 07:13:15 PM
Hmph. Not familiar. May have to look into it
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Post by: King Postwhore on October 19, 2012, 07:43:33 PM
The Subdivions tribute album has some excellent and interesting interpretations of Rush songs too.

It's good but damn there are some weird intros to the songs.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2012, 05:08:28 AM
Oh hell yeah.  He sounds amazing on Analog Kid.

TAC, I can't remember if you'd said whether or not you ever heard the "Working Man" tribute.
I was given a copy of it over 15 years ago. I think I played through it once or twice. Because it was a copy, I didn't have the list of musicians to accompany it.  It is one of those albums that I have just never been able to pull the trigger on. Isn't Fates Warning on there as well? I think it's Closer To The Heart. I was hoping they would play something a little more interesting. And frankly, I would be way more inclined to get it if Dream Theater performed together. I really don't care to hear Jack Russell or Sebastian Bach, or anyone else for that matter.
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Post by: jingle.boy on October 20, 2012, 07:08:43 AM
Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Man_%E2%80%93_A_Tribute_to_Rush

Quite the list of contributors, given it was 1996.
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Post by: TAC on October 20, 2012, 07:36:36 AM
Thank you for that. Oh yeah, I am aware of who was on it. I actually think I wrote it all down on a piece of paper at the time. It IS on "The List". Of course it's been on "The List" for over 15 years. I just haven't been able to bring myself to part with any money for it.
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Post by: TAC on October 21, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
13.Black Sabbath- Heaven And Hell (1980)

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I got this on 8 track when I was very young. Junior High. I loved it. I wasn't up on my Sabbath history. Knew they had another singer. Didn't know Dio was in another band. Somehow I innocently discovered Heaven And Hell. Don't even know how. But I have been in love with this album since the day I heard it. The title track is a TAC Top 10 song ever! This album just sits in the pocket and never lets up. Dio sounds fantastic on this (though I feel he peaked vocally on Mob Rules). The band sounds so inspired on this. They seemed kind of directionless on their previous two albums, thouh I am a big fan of Never Say Die.
Juat a great album that has stood the test of time. A classic. I don't know what else to say.

Fave tracks: Heaven And Hell, Die Young, Children Of The Sea.
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 21, 2012, 07:40:39 PM
Perfect album
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Post by: Lowdz on October 22, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
Great, great album. BS' best for me. just a couple of lesser tracks to stop it being a classic. If you combined the best of this and Mob Rules though- that would be an awesome album.
As it is it's 2/3rds awesome.
Die Young is a personal fave.
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Post by: wolfking on October 22, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Classic album.
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Post by: wkiml on October 22, 2012, 05:32:23 AM
Love the album, but was a fan before Dio joined, this seemed to bring a breathe of fresh air to the band, Iommi's playing is top notch as is the rest of the band.

Die Young still pulls be in every time I hear it....absolutely Love this song
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Post by: Mladen on October 22, 2012, 08:04:41 AM
A true metal classic.  :tup
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2012, 08:27:35 AM
A true metal classic.  :tup
The definition of classic!
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Post by: kirksnosehair on October 22, 2012, 12:34:38 PM
I really like the last three picks quite a bit, Seventh Son is a masterpiece

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Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 22, 2012, 04:13:03 PM
The album that got me into metal. :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 22, 2012, 06:17:20 PM
12. UFO- The Wild The Willing And The Innocent (1981)

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This is my favorite of the Paul Chapman era albums, and obviously, by being here, one of my favorite albums of all time. Quick history lesson: after Michael Schenker left UFO in 1978, Paul Chapman took over and from 1980 to 1983, they would release 4 more albums before deteriorating in a drugs and alcohol induced mess. This would be the second of the four albums, and the creative and playing peak of the band post Schenker. The songs are great and well written. Phil Mogg sounds incrediblly lush and full on this. Great lyrics take you into the lives of different characters all brought to life by the enigmatic Mogg. Everyone needs to shut the lights off and quietly listen to Profession Of Violence. Paul Chapman at his best. He really shines on this album.

Fave tracks: Long Gone, Profession Of Violence, The Wild The Willing And The Innocent, Lonely Heart
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Post by: Big Hath on October 22, 2012, 06:58:25 PM
first mention of Heaven And Hell on any list
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Post by: jjrock88 on October 22, 2012, 11:18:32 PM
first mention of Heaven And Hell on any list

That's top five at least for me
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Post by: Lowdz on October 23, 2012, 02:10:26 AM
Another awesome album. This is a great list.
Lonely Heart was the first single I ever bought, along with I Surrender by Rainbow. This is an overlooked album when compared with the Schenker era but it's a good one.
Agree with the songs you listed too. Long Gone is a classic.
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Post by: wkiml on October 23, 2012, 05:35:14 AM
Paul Chapman is such and under rated talent his style blended perfectly with the band. Got into UFO around the time of Obsession worked my way backwards through the catologue than followed them up through Making Contact


of the Chapman Era I prefered No Place to Run but can't say anything bad about this selection either.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2012, 07:38:07 AM
Chapman is very good on WWI. His work on It's Killing Me is incredible. A real simple yet perfect solo and great subtle fills throughout.

I am not crazy about No Place To Run. I actually would take Mechanix over it. I do love Anyday. Phil Mogg slays on that.

1981 was such a great year for music. Easily my favorite. In fact there are two more albums from 1981 to appear on my list in the Top 10.

first mention of Heaven And Hell on any list

That's top five at least for me
JJ, you need to do a list!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 23, 2012, 10:57:36 AM
Side Note seems Paul Chapman is playing in a southern rock band called Gator Country...its a bunch of ex Molly Hatchet guys and Chapman

Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2012, 10:59:02 AM
Side Note seems Paul Chapman is playing in a southern rock band called Gator Country...its a bunch of ex Molly Hatchet guys and Chapman
I will have to check that out. He is based in Florida.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 23, 2012, 06:05:23 PM
11. Dio- Holy Diver (1983)

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I can still remember hearing Stand Up And Shout and Straight Through The Heart on the local metal show when Holy Diver was released. I could not believe my ears. I bought this ASAP and thought I had heard the greatest album ever. The singer from Sabbath with a newer harder rocking band.  This album has stood the test of time and never disappoints. Vivian Campbells proves to be Ronnie's Randy Rhoads, as Dio was really never the same after Vivian left. Don't Talk To Strangers still gives me goosebumps today. Icredible music and writing, as close to perfect as a hard rock album could get.

Fave tracks:Don't Talk To Strangers, Holy Diver, Shame On The Night, Stand Up And Shout
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: adace on October 23, 2012, 06:09:41 PM
Love that album  :metal
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Post by: TAC on October 23, 2012, 06:13:10 PM
Love that album  :metal
Me too!!  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Big Hath on October 23, 2012, 07:03:43 PM
yes, awesome album.  And only the second mention in a list.
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Post by: Nekov on October 23, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
:2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 23, 2012, 07:34:05 PM
Boy I really need to pay me some attention to Dio.  Again, another one of those acts that was just a few years out of my wheelhouse.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 23, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
If somebody wanted an example of what heavy metal was all about, I would hand them Rising, Heaven & Hell, Mob Rules, Holy Diver and Last in Line.  This is the definition of metal and Dio is the voice of metal.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 24, 2012, 12:37:22 AM
That's my favorite Dio solo album as well. Good job for picking Shame on the night as one of your favorites, I've always thought it was a bit underrated.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: crazyaga on October 24, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
I just heard the first 6 songs of Holy Diver.
I thought it was emotionless and pretty generic.
fully respect the fact you love it though! I just have odd taste in music lol >.<
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 24, 2012, 12:44:10 AM
How would you feel if I told you that you missed out on the three best songs?  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 04:47:06 AM
Dio
June 18, 1986
Providence Civic Center

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Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 04:51:33 AM
If somebody wanted an example of what heavy metal was all about, I would hand them Rising, Heaven & Hell, Mob Rules, Holy Diver and Last in Line.  This is the definition of metal and Dio is the voice of metal.
Rising is great but you are right about the run from H&H to LiL. Incredible.

Boy I really need to pay me some attention to Dio.  Again, another one of those acts that was just a few years out of my wheelhouse.

I am not sure how much Dio you need, but Holy Diver and Last In line (his first two albums) are really all you need.

. Good job for picking Shame on the night as one of your favorites, I've always thought it was a bit underrated.

It is an incredible song. Fantastic.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 24, 2012, 05:02:54 AM
The man was and forever will be the "Voice of Heavy Metal"
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 05:09:17 AM
So, to recap 11-50:

50. Judas Priest-Screaming For Vengeance
49. Blackfoot-Siogo
48. Heavy Pettin' - Lettin, Loose
47. Heavenly- Dust To Dust
46. Led Zeppelin- Physical Graffiti
45. Y&T- Mean Streak
44. Anthrax- Stomp 442
43. Aerosmith- Night In The Ruts
42. Tesla- Mechanical Resonance
41. Hammerfall- Legacy Of Kings
40. The Sweet- Desolation Boulevard
39. Armored Saint- Symbol Of Salvation
38. Flotsam & Jetsam- No Place For Disgrace AND When The Storm Comes Down
37. Dream Theater- When Day And Dream REunite
36. Kiss- Hotter Than Hell
35. Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
34. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power
33. Queensryche- Warning AND Operation Mindcrime
32. Saxon- Power And The Glory
31. Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine
30. Dream Theater- A Dramatic Turn Of Events
29. Rush- Hemispheres
28. Metallica- And Justice For All
27. Def Leppard- High n Dry
26. Iron Maiden- Piece Of Mind
25. Ozzy Osbourne- Blizzard Of Ozz AND Diary Of A Madman
24. Waysted- The Good The Bad The Waysted AND the Waysted EP
23. AC/DC- Let There Be Rock
22. Thin Lizzy- Bad Reputation
21. UFO- Walk On Water
20. Rainbow- On Stage
19. Accept- Metal Heart
18. Riot- Narita & Fire Down Under
17. Alice Cooper- Welcome To My Nightmare AND Go To Hell
16. Iron Maiden- A Matter Of Life And Death AND The Final Frontier
15.  Iron Maiden- Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
14. Rush- Moving Pictures
13. Black Sabbath- Heaven And Hell
12. UFO- The Wild The Willing And The Innocent
11. Dio- Holy Diver


Top 10 coming within the hour!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2012, 05:26:18 AM
From Rising to Dream Evil is one awesome run of albums that probably no-one has beaten. I know some don't care for Sacred Heart and Dream evil but they are as good as Holy Diver for me.

Played the hell out of Holy Diver when it came out. DTTS is DIO's best solo song.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 05:34:55 AM
From Rising to Dream Evil is one awesome run of albums that probably no-one has beaten. I know some don't care for Sacred Heart and Dream evil but they are as good as Holy Diver for me.

Played the hell out of Holy Diver when it came out. DTTS is DIO's best solo song.
I agree with you on Don't Talk.

I love Dream Evil too! Sacred Heart was an obvious step back. It was clear when it was released. I will say though that it has aged very well. There a few great tunes on there.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2012, 05:48:43 AM
I really liked Holy Diver, but the Dio album for me is Sacred Heart, just really loved that one for some reason.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Rattlehead on October 24, 2012, 06:07:29 AM
Nice list so far... I'd be very surprised to see if Rust In Peace and Master of Puppets weren't in your top 10 based off of 11-50.  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 06:08:16 AM
@ wkiml

I was thinking of the Paul Chapman conversation..
On my list a few albums ago, I listed Waysted's 1985 album The Good The Bad The Waysted. Have you ever heard that? The band is Chapman, Way, and Jerry Shirley on drums, along with Fin on vocals. The production gives Chapman a real dirty sound. But his solos and fills are fantastic. Very well written and melodic.

Manuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_fnAe2Wms

Land That's Lost The Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJFcgPzJenI
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 24, 2012, 06:16:56 AM
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Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2012, 06:32:41 AM
Back in Black?  Please don't allow Let There Be Rock to be your favorite AC/DC album.
Paranoid?  That's the grand-daddy of all metal albums.
There's got to be another Priest album!?
Almost surprised there's no Savatage.
Going out on a limb, maybe Whitesnake or QR from the mid-80s.
From 1981?  Allied Forces?  Killers?  Fair Warning?  Too Fast For Love?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 06:37:47 AM
Hey, that is uncalled for!
Post reported!!

Anyway... here we go into the Top 10.

10. Alice Cooper- Killer (1971) AND Schools Out (1972)

(https://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/C/cooper_killerF.jpg)(https://tralfaz-archives.com/coverart/C/cooper_killerB.jpg)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xEau2DBqjSE/TvywIkaBR5I/AAAAAAAABGM/MFms506G3Nw/s1600/al1.gif)(https://www.vinylrecords.ch/A/AL/Alice_Cooper/Schools/schools-out-11.jpg)

I debated whether I wanted to pair Killer up with School's Out or let it stand on its own. I will present both, because other than the title track, School's Out is one the most underappreciated albums as a whole of all time. But this pick is all about Killer, an incredible journey. Probably if you have Alice Cooper's greatest hits, you are probably familiar with Under My Wheels and Desperado. But this album is so much deeper. Halo Of Flies, in my opinion, is the first PROGRESSIVE METAL song on record. If you have never heard Halo Of Flies, you MUST listen to it now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUskypc1EY
And then of course there is Dead Babies. But it is not what you think. It is an ANTI abuse and neglect song, long before it became fashionable. The album concludes with the title track, which really has to be heard to be believed. A story of an execution ending in the sound of death. Yikes!! But don't be scared. It a musical journey not soon forgotten.
And School's Out is another incredible album detailing Alice's view on high school years. Kind of like a hard rock musical, if you will.
Not counting the first two albums that are simply noise, these are albums #2 and #3 of the 5 albums the original Alice Cooper band made. Alice Cooper was known as a BAND back then. To me they are the most underrated and underappreciated American rock band of the 70's. I know Alice has his whole persona that he portrays, but these original Alice Cooper albums have song writing light years ahead of its time.

This is one time where if you are not familiar with, please do yourself a favor and check out my fave tracks. If all you know are School's Out and 18 and No more Mr. Nice Guy, those do not even scratch the surface of what this band does.

Killer fave tracks: Halo Of Flies, Dead Babies, Killer, Desperado
School's Out fave tracks: Blue Turk, Alma Mater, Luney Tune, My Stars
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 06:44:16 AM
Back in Black?  Please don't allow Let There Be Rock to be your favorite AC/DC album.
Paranoid?  That's the grand-daddy of all metal albums.
There's got to be another Priest album!?
Almost surprised there's no Savatage.
Going out on a limb, maybe Whitesnake or QR from the mid-80s.
From 1981?  Allied Forces?  Killers?  Fair Warning?  Too Fast For Love?
Sorry J-Boy..negative on all accounts. :)

Let There Be Rock IS my favorite AC/DC album. Back In Black is fantastic. Should make the v2 thread.
I would take Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage over Paranoid...easily.
No more Priest. I think I talked about that at Pick #50.
I am NOT a Savatage fan. I have no idea what the hubbub is about. Next to Faster Pussycat, Savatage was the worst live act I ever saw. I know the TSO stuff is pretty good, but Savatage was just not good enough to pull off the lofty ideas that they had.
Already had QR on the list. Whitsnake..nope.
Fair Warning was already listed as an HM.
Hey..Too Fast For Love is awesome! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2012, 06:57:31 AM
Back in Black?  Please don't allow Let There Be Rock to be your favorite AC/DC album.
Paranoid?  That's the grand-daddy of all metal albums.
There's got to be another Priest album!?
Almost surprised there's no Savatage.
Going out on a limb, maybe Whitesnake or QR from the mid-80s.
From 1981?  Allied Forces?  Killers?  Fair Warning?  Too Fast For Love?
Sorry J-Boy..negative on all accounts. :)

Let There Be Rock IS my favorite AC/DC album. Back In Black is fantastic. Should make the v2 thread.
I would take Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage over Paranoid...easily.
No more Priest. I think I talked about that at Pick #50.
I am NOT a Savatage fan. I have no idea what the hubbub is about. Next to Faster Pussycat, Savatage was the worst live act I ever saw. I know the TSO stuff is pretty good, but Savatage was just not good enough to pull off the lofty ideas that they had.
Already had QR on the list. Whitsnake..nope.
Fair Warning was already listed as an HM.
Hey..Too Fast For Love is awesome! :lol


Ooh. I can't totally agree with that. The band were great players. What I always felt was that Jon Oliva wasn't a good enough singer to pull off the songs they were writing on Gutter Ballet- the first Sava-album I heard. He sounded better on Streets though. Vocals got better with Zak but Chris was gone by then and the music suffered a bit.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2012, 06:58:57 AM
I'm not gonna coment on these Savatage comments, because it probably won't end well.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 07:10:25 AM
I'm not gonna coment on these Savatage comments, because it probably won't end well.  ;D
That's OK Wolf, I know you're a big fan as are a lot of others around here.
Things like Streets and Gutter Ballet I think are great ideas and both very creative. But from idea to final execution, there just seems to be a let down. I always felt that the musicianship was just adequate for an average heavy metal band of the 80's even though their vision is truly commendable.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 24, 2012, 07:13:49 AM
@ wkiml

I was thinking of the Paul Chapman conversation..
On my list a few albums ago, I listed Waysted's 1985 album The Good The Bad The Waysted. Have you ever heard that? The band is Chapman, Way, and Jerry Shirley on drums, along with Fin on vocals. The production gives Chapman a real dirty sound. But his solos and fills are fantastic. Very well written and melodic.

Manuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_fnAe2Wms

Land That's Lost The Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJFcgPzJenI

Actually have the album buried away somewhere ....not a go to album for me, but as you know my tastes leaned more to the thrash/crossover albums of that era
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 24, 2012, 07:24:35 AM
Believe me, I tried getting TAC into the Savatage.  No dice.

I bought Holy Diver and Last In Line on vinyl when they were 1st released, both are great albums.   I've always been fascinated by the confluence of events that shaped Dio's career arc, and how it spanned from playing with Blackmore to Iommi to Campbell.   

I recently went back to the well and re-listened to HD and LIL, which inspired me to pick up Sacred Heart, Dream Evil and Lock Up the Wolves (which I never bought or listened to).   Sacred Heart is decent enough, but I really like Dream Evil.  There's a generic 80s metal sound to it that came across as cheesy at first listen, but there's a certain endearing charm to it that I've grown to love.   And LUTW has an interesting sound and groove, probably due to the complete overhaul to the players in band.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Zydar on October 24, 2012, 07:34:40 AM
Invisible Touch will be #1

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Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 07:36:24 AM
Yeah, you never back to me on LUTW! Dio sounds great on it.

Invisible Touch will be #1

I couldn't decide between that and abawtfcab!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2012, 07:39:47 AM
Re-listened to LUTW recently after discussion here and nothing had changed for me in the last 20 odd years. Poor album.

And I like Savatage.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 07:48:05 AM
Re-listened to LUTW recently after discussion here and nothing had changed for me in the last 20 odd years. Poor album.

And I like Savatage.  ;D

It's all good!!! :)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 08:35:13 AM
Jeesh..not much Alice Cooper love, huh? :|
Seriously..try it!

Anyway, I guess it's on to #9!

9. Thin Lizzy- Renegade (1981)

(https://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/517l%2BDQOnwL/Thin-Lizzy-Renegade.jpg)
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This is easily my favorite Thin Lizzy album. This would be the second album they made with Snowy White on guitar. Somehow, I really just connect to this musically. The final track, It's Getting Dangerous, is one of my favorite songs of all time. Lyrically, Phil Lynott takes you in and out of different characters to make some real interesting tunes like Mexican Blood and Fats. But the strength of this album really lies in the title track, the very heavy Angel Of Death, and the single from the album Hollywood (Down On Your Luck). This is an album that simply takes me away, where I can truly forget about the outside world. This album would ultimately lead into Thunder And Lightning, which will absolutely make the v2 list, and probably will top it.

Fave tracks: It's Getting Dangerous, Renegade, Hollywood, No One Told Him
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 24, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
Love me some Lizzy but I'm all over the place with them....every album seemed to have some great songs , but than lots of other songs that didn't click with me

Angel of Death.....top 5 Lizzy song for me

Shit had too make a top 6 songs

Thunder and Lightning
Holy War
Angel of Death
Cold Sweat
Chinatown
Still in Love With You
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 09:07:05 AM
Shit had too make a top 6 songs

Thunder and Lightning
Holy War
Angel of Death
Cold Sweat
Chinatown
Still in Love With You

Off the top of my head I'd go with:
It's Getting Dangerous
The Cowboy Song
Dancing In The Moonlight
Chinatown
Thunder And Lightning
No One Told Him
Emerald
Heart Attack
The Boys Are Back In Town
Massacre
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 09:09:24 AM
Love me some Lizzy but I'm all over the place with them....every album seemed to have some great songs , but than lots of other songs that didn't click with me
Yeah, they're similar to UFO in that respect. I love both bands, UFO being a Top 3 band for me, but I certainly recognize there were some inconsistencies. But I always find that when I go back to those songs, I can still find a certain charm that both Mogg and Lynott were capable of portraying.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2012, 09:11:18 AM
Jeesh..not much Alice Cooper love, huh? :|
Seriously..try it!


I did.  clicked right to the link you provided.  Alice still doesn't do much for me.  I don't mind the radio hits for AC, but for the most part, he doesn't really float my boat.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 09:13:11 AM
An aquired taste, I guess. :)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 24, 2012, 09:38:19 AM
TAC, my taste in Thin Lizzy albums is diametrically opposed to yours.  I like Black Rose, Jailbait, Johnny the Fox.   Ditto for my my taste in Priest and UFO albums.   

I'm going to give Alice Cooper another try. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 24, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
I am a big fan of Alice's 80's material.  For the most part, I am just a best of fan for his 70's albums.  Some of his very early stuff is really out there and not my cup of tea.

Renegade is a great Thin Lizzy disc.  Hollywood is an extremely catchy song.

Like Wolf, I'm a big fan of Savatage.

TAC, I'm really surprised you're not a Judas Priest fanatic.  You just seem to have all the makings to be one lol.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 24, 2012, 11:36:59 AM
Love me some Lizzy but I'm all over the place with them....every album seemed to have some great songs , but than lots of other songs that didn't click with me

Angel of Death.....top 5 Lizzy song for me

Shit had too make a top 6 songs

Thunder and Lightning
Holy War
Angel of Death
Cold Sweat
Chinatown
Still in Love With You
That's a damn good list.  Mine would be very similar.
Angel of Death
Thunder and Lightning
Cold Sweat
Chinatown
Hollywood
Bad Reputation.

I'm real cool with Holy War and SILWY, but gotta narrow it down to favorites. 

The thing that always bothered me about Thin Lizzy is that they're known almost entirely for Phil Lynott, and to a lesser extent Gary Moore.  Not to diminish either of their contributions, but it'd certainly be nice if Brian Downy got more credit.  The man was an absolute beast.  A perfect combination of artistry and power.  Similarly, there were some awesome guitarists in that band that weren't named Gary Moore.  John Sykes was more noteworthy for what he did after TL.  Snowy White never got any notoriety outside of Pink Floyd fans.  Scotty Gorham was the glue that held it all together, and when was the last time anybody ever spoke of him, aside form tarnishing Phil Lynott's image.  Most unfortunate.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 12:14:02 PM
I'm going to give Alice Cooper another try.

I am a big fan of Alice's 80's material.  For the most part, I am just a best of fan for his 70's albums.  Some of his very early stuff is really out there and not my cup of tea.

Well, I can understand the roadblocks to getting into Alice Cooper. And his discography can certainly be a music minefield.

But when thinking that Killer and School's Out which were released in 1971 and 1972, consider the songwriting and what was going on around them in music. Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Sabbath were in full swing, but what about American rock bands of that time?? Both Aerosmith and Kiss take huge influence from the Alice Cooper band.
I just think that band is so underappreciated and underrated. Alice Cooper's Greatest Hits just doesn't scratch the surface. And I think people that like rock music that haven't discovered this band don't know what they are missing.
Hey if you try Alice and it doesn't do it for you, that's cool, but the two albums I listed need to be heard in their entirety a couple of times. Who was writing songs like that in America at that time?? No one..that's who.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
The thing that always bothered me about Thin Lizzy is that they're known almost entirely for Phil Lynott, and to a lesser extent Gary Moore.  Not to diminish either of their contributions, but it'd certainly be nice if Brian Downy got more credit.  The man was an absolute beast.  A perfect combination of artistry and power.  Similarly, there were some awesome guitarists in that band that weren't named Gary Moore.  John Sykes was more noteworthy for what he did after TL.  Snowy White never got any notoriety outside of Pink Floyd fans.  Scotty Gorham was the glue that held it all together, and when was the last time anybody ever spoke of him, aside form tarnishing Phil Lynott's image.  Most unfortunate.
Been thinking about this...
The Phil Lynott thing is probably because the band so resembled his style. His vocals and delivery were really the trademark of the band.
And props to Brian Downey..but his playing was really just "there". A great rock drummer, but nothing really stands out except for his longevity and being there. Kind of like Andy Parker of UFO.
I don't remember people praising Tico Torres either and he was drumming for the biggest band on the planet. So much like Jon Bon Jovi and Ian Anderson, Phil Lynott is really the defining image of the band.
Gary Moore's contributions to Thin Lizzy are actually overrated. I mean he recorded two albums..74's Nightlife and 79's Black Rose, and filled in on a couple of tours.. but the guy who really gets shafted is Gorham. And Robertson for that matter.
I love what John Sykes did with Thin Lizzy, but it was such a short run. One album, one tour. I mean one GREAT album and tour.. I really would've liked to see what they could have done next.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 24, 2012, 01:04:44 PM
Those two Alice Cooper albums are pretty great, I really enjoy his early stuff. I gotta ask, though - what's the deal with the track list on that picture of School's out? They're in the wrong order, where did you get that picture? Or are there some copies with that order that I'm not aware of?

I like Renegade as well, although some of the songs don't always work for me. I still think Fats is way too weird for them, but on the other hand, Leave this town, Angel of death, It's getting dangerous and the title track make up for a couple of meh tracks.

I tried listing my favorite Thin Lizzy songs, but I didn't know how to leave out a couple of dozen songs.  :-\
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 24, 2012, 01:09:07 PM
Not to mention Alice Cooper's influence on King Diamond, a big favorite of mine.  Not only for the theatrical schtick, but the music as well.   One thing that's a major obstacle for me is Alice's vocals.  I'm usually pretty tolerant of a wide range of vocal styles, but his just kills it for me.  Seeing as how picky you are about vox, I'm very surprised that you've taken to it.

Speaking of Ian Anderson and drummers, Tull was never quite the same after Barriemore Barlow left the band.  Beast drummer. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
Right LV, KD is a direct descendant of Alice. The vocals, I can't explain :lol

M, I just googled the artwork. I just went up to my attic and checked my vinyl copy of School's Out and the tracks are the same as I posted, which is out of order from the album.
I just listened to Renegade. I actually like Fats. It is different, that's for sure, but I think it works.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 24, 2012, 01:35:54 PM
What's interesting for me is the closer we get to your #1 album, the less I like the albums you're posting  :lol


It's cool, though, you like what you like.   :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 24, 2012, 01:43:17 PM
I like Lizzy but find all their albums to be patchy. There are great songs everywhere, just never a full albums worth. For me, best would be Thunder & Lightning and Black Rose.

When it comes to Alice, it's his hair metal period that does it for me. Hey Stoopid is his best (bar the awful title track), Trash, Raise Your Fist, even Last Temptation. I do like killer and Goes To Hell but From The Inside is the best of his 70s stuff. So much greatness in there.

I have the vinyl of School's Out and it's ok, I just never really loved it.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
What's interesting for me is the closer we get to your #1 album, the less I like the albums you're posting  :lol


It's cool, though, you like what you like.   :tup
I think in general, early picks on a countdown are albums that the poster really likes and they tend to be broader reaching. The albums at the top of a list are the truly special albums that hold some special connection. I used to skip these threads and I think I went into the archives and read J Boy's list. I thought jeesh, this is interesting and I was inspired to do my own.

For the record, I am a huge Alice Cooper fan, loving all eras. I rank him as my #4 artist after Drram Theater, Iron Maiden, and UFO. Unfortunately and understandably Alice Cooper doesn't come up very much on DTF.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
I used to skip these threads and I think I went into the archives and read J Boy's list. I thought jeesh, this is interesting and I was inspired to do my own.

I have a sudden urge to listen to some Chicago now!   :rollin
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 24, 2012, 02:24:23 PM
The thing that always bothered me about Thin Lizzy is that they're known almost entirely for Phil Lynott, and to a lesser extent Gary Moore.  Not to diminish either of their contributions, but it'd certainly be nice if Brian Downy got more credit.  The man was an absolute beast.  A perfect combination of artistry and power.  Similarly, there were some awesome guitarists in that band that weren't named Gary Moore.  John Sykes was more noteworthy for what he did after TL.  Snowy White never got any notoriety outside of Pink Floyd fans.  Scotty Gorham was the glue that held it all together, and when was the last time anybody ever spoke of him, aside form tarnishing Phil Lynott's image.  Most unfortunate.
Been thinking about this...
The Phil Lynott thing is probably because the band so resembled his style. His vocals and delivery were really the trademark of the band.
And props to Brian Downey..but his playing was really just "there". A great rock drummer, but nothing really stands out except for his longevity and being there. Kind of like Andy Parker of UFO.
I don't remember people praising Tico Torres either and he was drumming for the biggest band on the planet. So much like Jon Bon Jovi and Ian Anderson, Phil Lynott is really the defining image of the band.
Gary Moore's contributions to Thin Lizzy are actually overrated. I mean he recorded two albums..74's Nightlife and 79's Black Rose, and filled in on a couple of tours.. but the guy who really gets shafted is Gorham. And Robertson for that matter.
I love what John Sykes did with Thin Lizzy, but it was such a short run. One album, one tour. I mean one GREAT album and tour.. I really would've liked to see what they could have done next.
Huh.  Can't think of anytime I've ever thought to my self "holy shit, Tico Torres!"  I have those moments all the time listening to Thin Lizzy.  To be fair, I always despised Bon Jovi, and with the exception of the immensely talented Richie Sambora, thought they were all a bunch of wankers.

Speaking of Ian Anderson and drummers, Tull was never quite the same after Barriemore Barlow left the band.  Beast drummer. 
I can only go by what I've seen in video, but I never got the appeal, really.  Given Bonham's appreciation of the guy, I'll accept that I'm missing something, though.  Since I've seen Doane Perry many times live, I've developed a real appreciation for his work. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 02:39:33 PM
Huh.  Can't think of anytime I've ever thought to my self "holy shit, Tico Torres!"  I have those moments all the time listening to Thin Lizzy.  To be fair, I always despised Bon Jovi, and with the exception of the immensely talented Richie Sambora, thought they were all a bunch of wankers.

That's funny. Tico Torres is actually pretty solid. But so is Downey. I am a HUGE Thin Lizzy guy, so you can certainly count me as a Downey fan, but his playing has really never stood out to me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 04:38:02 PM
8. Dream Theater- Scenes From A Memory (1999) AND Live Scenes From New York (2001)

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I present these albums together because as much as I love SFAM, the Live Scenes version basically
renders it to coaster status. First of all, the songs are great. I lived through the dreaded FII era where I
really thought DT went off the deep end. I wondered WTF happened. But when SFAM came out, I was so
relieved. I had my Dream Theater back. Not like this album hasn't been rehashed to death on these pages
but suffive it to say that I couldn't do a Top 10 list without it. And Live Scenes speaks for itself. You could
feel the band jumping through the CD. The energy given to the already great tracks is incredible.

Fave tracks- Fatal Tragedy, Finally Free..all of them really!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: El Barto on October 24, 2012, 04:54:37 PM
The DVD of that significantly increased my fondness for the band.  Mostly the bonus content, actually.  I certainly rank Scenes as one of their top two albums, but it's seeing them perform it that really shows off some musicianship. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 24, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
Oh absolutely. I remember when my first son would wake up in the middle of the night, I would always take him to the living room and pop  the DVD in.
I actually don't get a chance to watch it a lot these days, but that performance absolutely jumps off the CD!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 24, 2012, 05:25:32 PM
The DVD of that significantly increased my fondness for the band.  Mostly the bonus content, actually.  I certainly rank Scenes as one of their top two albums, but it's seeing them perform it that really shows off some musicianship.

This.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: chaotic_ripper on October 24, 2012, 05:54:38 PM
LSFNY is what I compare all other live albums to.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 24, 2012, 06:50:23 PM
The show itself is fantastic.  The DVD production, not so much.  But the commentary.

"What are you playing there John?"
"Bass."

Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: lonestar on October 24, 2012, 07:04:50 PM
Lots of love for Thin Lizzy though!!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 24, 2012, 07:23:32 PM
more great picks like usual TAC.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 25, 2012, 02:17:16 AM
M, I just googled the artwork. I just went up to my attic and checked my vinyl copy of School's Out and the tracks are the same as I posted, which is out of order from the album.
Dang, I completely forgot I had the vinyl as well and the track list is the same. What I also forgot is that the order is a joke - it's like a school test, and next to every song there are two blanks that you're supposed to fill, as to on which side of the vinyl the song is and at which number.

Scenes is two spots lower than I'd place it.  ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2012, 04:39:28 AM
Never listen to the live version but do watch the dvd alot. SFAM, like for you, reignited my love for DT after FII.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2012, 05:24:17 AM
Scenes is two spots lower than I'd place it.  ;D

You need to make a list!

Lots of love for Thin Lizzy though!!!!
Nice of you to make an appearance in the thread!
Yes I love Thin Lizzy. Probably my #6 or #7 fave band.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 25, 2012, 07:16:08 AM
You need to make a list!
We'll see. I guess there's a waiting list of some sort, but I have no idea if my turn will be when I'm too busy.  :-\
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Nekov on October 25, 2012, 07:22:19 AM
Favorite album of all time for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 25, 2012, 07:30:32 AM
You need to make a list!
We'll see. I guess there's a waiting list of some sort, but I have no idea if my turn will be when I'm too busy.  :-\

You could do what I did and make it in advance. Will still be months before I'm up and I keep remembering albums I have to find a way to crowbar in, but at least it's ready to go.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2012, 08:20:38 AM
7. Metallica- Kill 'Em All (1982)

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I have referenced a local heavy metal show that played on Saturday nights when I was a freshman in high school. Well, thankfully to that show I was turned on to Kill Em All. Actually the track they played that night was Hit The Lights. It was incredible. I had really never heard metal like this before, and I loved it. I still remember calling 1800 HOT ROCK (remember that, guys!) to order the cassette. They were based in NY and I still remember talking to the guy that answered. We actually talked about Talas! When I got the cassette, I was amazed at how young the band looked. I instantly fell in love with this album. The music was so fast and heavy. I loved the speed of it, so much faster that what I was listening to. Over the course of the next 6 months or so, I got into the ground level on a number a thrash bands, ultimately to be turned away from the genre by the look, vocals, lyrical content, etc.. It wouldn't be until another 3-4 years that I would regain my love for the genre. This is my go to album for Metallica, and One of the most influential albums in heavy metal history, and certainly of my musical life.

Fave tracks: Hit The Lights, The Four Horsemen, Phantom Lord, Whiplash
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Elite on October 25, 2012, 08:50:51 AM
Wow, interesting pick, but a good write-up to back it up. Nice!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Ruba on October 25, 2012, 09:04:10 AM
Jeesh..not much Alice Cooper love, huh? :|
Seriously..try it!

I will. I like Billion Dollar Babies and Welcome to My Nightmare and Dragontown, a bit.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on October 25, 2012, 09:26:08 AM
When I think of Kill Them All, I always think of Sebastian Bach talking about when he first saw the album and the picture of the band on the back:

"These guys were so ugly you just KNEW they were going to rock your face off"
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2012, 09:50:55 AM
Jeesh..not much Alice Cooper love, huh? :|
Seriously..try it!

I will. I like Billion Dollar Babies and Welcome to My Nightmare and Dragontown, a bit.
Ouch, Dragontown is horrible! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 25, 2012, 09:53:46 AM
Honestly it's baffling to me how Kill Em' All gets ranked over the rest of Metallica's discography, but I've come to understand that TAC is a sentimental soul who cherishes those youthful memories and tends to pick albums with his heart rather than with a cold hard critical eye.  And that's  :hat
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 25, 2012, 10:08:33 AM
Honestly it's baffling to me how Kill Em' All gets ranked over the rest of Metallica's discography, but I've come to understand that TAC is a sentimental soul who cherishes those youthful memories and tends to pick albums with his heart rather than with a cold hard critical eye.  And that's  :hat
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. :lol

And it will never be truer when I reveal the next two picks in the morning.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 25, 2012, 10:30:13 AM
Not my favorite Metallica disc, but still a great one.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 25, 2012, 11:56:26 AM
Isn't the purpose of a top 50 list to list the album you love rather than the "CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED ONE"

I'm with TAC on alot of albums...it always that first listen that drew me in and made a fan of a band, could a band of come out with a superior album after that, absolutely, but its that first one that pulled you in that stays close to your heart
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2012, 05:28:31 AM
OK, now I don't expect much interest in these two albums but:

TAC is a sentimental soul who cherishes those youthful memories and tends to pick albums with his heart
  And that's  :hat

Even UFO fans might look at this pick and go WTF??

All I can say is that these two albums are regular go to albums and they NEVER disappoint!

Numbers #4 and #3 will be revealed on Monday morning and #2 and #1 will be revealed Tuesday afternoon, unless I get some free time over the weekend..

6. UFO- No Heavy Petting (1976)

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No Heavy Petting is the third of the five Michael Schenker era albums. It would actually only contribute two tracks to the great Strangers In The Night live album from 1978, Natural Thing and I'm A Loser. But this album really hits home for me. I mean I LOVE them all, as UFO, along with Iron Maiden, was my favorite band growing up. For this album, they would add a ful time keyboardist, Danny Peyronel, who I thought really added to the mood of the album. There are some great rockers like Can You Roll Her and Reasons Love, along with two great softer pieces, Martian Landscape and Belladonna. Belladoona is incredible touching and really needs to be played on headphones during a quiet moment. Schenker absolutely rips up this album like none other. And Phil Mogg, is well..fantastic on this. Great lyrical tales told in his enigmatic style. This album is all win for me! I'm sure even UFO fans will not be happy with this pick.

Fave tracks: I'm A Loser, Belladonna, Can You Roll Her, Reasons Love

5. Michael Schenker Group- MSG (1981)

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In another pick to alienate the followers of the thread, Michael Schenker's 2nd album MSG probably did more to shape my musical outlook than almost any other album. I originally heard the single, On And On on the radio and fell in love with it. I actually had this before I ever had a UFO album! I'm sure DTF would be less than impressed with the musical content, more or less a straigh ahead rock album from the early 80's but this is a very special album to me. Schenkers displays some great melodic playing on this especially some of the best outros these ears have ever heard. For me, this is the equivalent of musical comfort food. Notable is his lineup for this album which included Cris Glenn (bass), Gary Barden (vocals) fellow UFO alum Paul Raymond and the great Cozy Powell, who puts his trademark power drumming on display. His heaviness was something that he needed, as his "dirty" drumming was a great change from the "clean" performance from Simon Phillips on the first album.

Fave tracks: On And On, Attack Of The Mad Axeman, Looking For Love, Let Sleeping Dogs Lie, Secondary Motion
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 26, 2012, 05:38:40 AM
Can't argue with these TAC. UFO/Schenker are big favourite's chez Lowdz. I recently bought the Chrysalis Years boxed sets of UFO and MSG and they are done well.

I love Mad Mickey's guitar playing and he wrote some great riffs. Not particularly struck on Barden as a singer but the material is so good it doesn't really matter.

So far there is only 10 albums you've listed that I don't own.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on October 26, 2012, 05:40:25 AM
Love the MSG pick....way back when i played On and On was one of the songs we used to cover

The Outro solo on Attack of the Mad Axeman is one of my favorites of all time

I prefer the stuff he did with Barden over the McAuley era too
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 26, 2012, 05:47:59 AM
Never really got into much MSG, I should fix that.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Sir GuitarCozmo on October 26, 2012, 07:30:47 AM
The Cowboy Song

We used to do this in one of my old bands.  What a hell of a lot of fun to play!  With all the dual guitar harmony lines and two of the ballsiest solos ever recorded.  This song is just badass all around.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 26, 2012, 08:00:59 AM
You could do what I did and make it in advance. Will still be months before I'm up and I keep remembering albums I have to find a way to crowbar in, but at least it's ready to go.
Thanks, man, that's a good idea. I'll give it a thought.  :tup

I'm not familiar with the last two picks, but Kill 'em all is OK, though...  :smiley:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 26, 2012, 08:33:08 AM
I do like No Heavy Petting, but my top 2 UFO albums are Force It and Lights Out (in that order).   "Martian Landscape" is a cool song!

Isn't the purpose of a top 50 list to list the album you love rather than the "CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED ONE"

I'm with TAC on alot of albums...it always that first listen that drew me in and made a fan of a band, could a band of come out with a superior album after that, absolutely, but its that first one that pulled you in that stays close to your heart

Absolutely.  And that's what makes some of TAC's album choices rather counterintuitive.  His top 50 albums reads like a personal history of his life's journey in music  (and TAC has a LOT of history to tread  ;D)

Part of the difference for me comes from the fact that I came into UFO and Thin Lizzy music very recently.  Which means that I've approached their discography from a totally different perspective, i.e.  basically allowing me to look back on these bands' discography in their entirety like a historian surveying the past with an eye for unbiased facts.  While I've come to love and appreciate the music, it almost seems as if I've done so from afar.  TAC, on the other hand, has lived it.   

Being slightly older than TAC, the bands that I've "lived" through came a bit earlier:  Zeppelin, Floyd, Tull...
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2012, 08:45:28 AM
The Lovely Mrs TAC would kill me, but since when does half a decade = slightly? :lol

I love all of the Schenker era UFO albums. It was real tough to leave Obsession off the list. I really should have wedged it in there somewhere. It will the in the Top 10 of the v2 for sure.

It is tough to pick one over the other. I just love the character of NHP. Not that the others don't have it. Force It kicks ass!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 26, 2012, 09:02:33 AM
The pattern seems to be holding.  The higher we go, the less I know  :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2012, 09:05:18 AM
The Top 4 are much broader reaching, trust me. ;)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on October 26, 2012, 09:09:35 AM
The Lovely Mrs TAC would kill me, but since when does half a decade = slightly? :lol


Fuzzy math?   :laugh:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 26, 2012, 09:50:45 AM
Last year I bought the reissues of the first two MSG discs; great albums. Love UFO too. UFO is mentioned often as being influential but I'm always surprised at how unknown they are in North America.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 26, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
Part of the problem is that they never really had a big radio hit. I never heard UFO on the radio. But their style, look, and sound are so visible in so many bands.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 28, 2012, 07:35:27 PM
4. Helloween- Keeper Of The Seven Keys Parts 1 (1987) AND 2 (1988)

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Sometime during the summer of 1987, I was at a friends house. This was the summer following my freshman year of college. I remember having the "I need to find a new band" itch. My friend had the current issue of Metal Hammer and a band caught my eye. There was a feature on this band called Helloween. The article talked about really fast but melodic playing, with soaring vocals. Plus the pictures of the band showed that they looked clean cut. As I explained in the Kill "Em All write up, I took a huge step back from speed/thrash metal because the image was really such a turnoff.
So I decided to blind buy Keeper Of The Seven Keys. HOLY SHIT! I'm Alive started and I literally pulled off the road into a nearby park and sat there and istened to the entire album! I could not beleve my ears.
This album would ultimately reopen the speed/thrash door for me. I got back into Metallica, became a Megadeth and Slayer fan. Really got into Flotsam & Jetsam, and none of it would have been possible without Helloween. And THAT VOICE!! Really?? Amazing.

I also present Keepers Part 2, as the follow up did not disappoint. In fact, I liked it even more! One of the two greatest vocal performances these ears have ever heard. These two albums are indispensable to me.

Part 1 fave tracks: I'm Alive, Halloween, Future World, A Little Time, Twilight Of The Gods, A Tale That Wasn't Right
Part 2 fave tracks: Keeper Of The Seven Keys, We Got The Right, Eagle Fly Free, You Always Walk Alone, March Of Time
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 28, 2012, 08:28:27 PM
Classic, nothing more to say.  Two of the greatest albums in the history of metal.  To be honest though, I put teh first album a lot higher than the second.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 28, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
I go back and forth. The first one is a bit rawer and very cool, and literally changed the way I looked at metal. Part 2 is almost perfect.
And to think how young Michael Kiske was when he recorded these albums. All by the age of 20!! WTF??
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Ruba on October 29, 2012, 02:52:18 AM
Nice albums  :metal :metal! I love Eagle Fly Free.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2012, 03:30:54 AM
I didn't get into Helloween back in the day. I found them to be a poor man's Maiden on the few tracks I heard. It all sounded a bit too "happy" as well. Strange, seeing as how I was into the LA pop metal bands, but it just didn't sound rigght to me.
Recently I've given them another go as they feature in plenty of best ofs around here, and I like it more than I did- but they'll never be a favourite.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 29, 2012, 03:34:12 AM
I love how you listed all songs from Keeper 1 as your favorites.  ;D In my opinion, these are the two absolute best power metal albums of all time.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 29, 2012, 06:25:17 AM
Classics. I always go back and forth between which one I like better too.  But I always play them together back to back
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 29, 2012, 07:02:37 AM
Add another one for me to have a whirl with.  Just watched "Metal Evolution" this weekend - the segment on Power Metal.  These two albums were referenced as a couple of the key influences/start of this sub-genre.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2012, 09:54:30 AM
Add another one for me to have a whirl with.  Just watched "Metal Evolution" this weekend - the segment on Power Metal.  These two albums were referenced as a couple of the key influences/start of this sub-genre.
Although there were already elements of what would be the European Power Metal movement (Yngwie/Accept), Keepers would become the blueprint for the genre.
The ride was short lived as guitarist Kai Hansen would leave right after Part 2 came out.

But these two albums feature such gorgeous heavy metal, with vocal performances that cannot be beat.

I didn't get into Helloween back in the day. I found them to be a poor man's Maiden on the few tracks I heard. It all sounded a bit too "happy" as well. Strange, seeing as how I was into the LA pop metal bands, but it just didn't sound rigght to me.
Recently I've given them another go as they feature in plenty of best ofs around here, and I like it more than I did- but they'll never be a favourite.

Well, they were certainly an extension of what Maiden was doing, but they took it and created a whole genre. I understand the "too happy" comment, because there was certainly an element in the band of that. I mean lyrically they were fairly positive and I liked that. You can see why Hansen left, and then Kiske.
Both Pink Bubbles (which has aged quite nicely) and the schizophrenic Chameleon were huge steps down from the masterful Keepers era.



Oh, and I just lost power! I would like to get #3 up today, but I need my computer back!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 29, 2012, 11:58:40 AM
I tried very hard to like those Helloween albums.  But I failed, hard.


Maybe I'll go back and try them again.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2012, 12:13:31 PM
Kirk, I think you'll be happy with two of the top three to come.  :biggrin: Stay tuned!
I am actually doing the write ups for them now.
I still have NO power! :censored
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 29, 2012, 04:48:31 PM
Hmm. Just listened to Keeper I whilst cooking tea and enjoyed it.  ;D Part II tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 29, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
Part 2 might be the best vocal performance these ears have ever heard. We Got The Right  :metal :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 05:38:45 AM
Quick update:
I got power back late last night. I will update thread when I get home from work today!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on October 30, 2012, 07:07:42 AM
I REALLY need to get into Schenker. Dinosaur Rock Guitar, which is easily the most comprehensive and knowledgable guitar site out there, has him as #1 all time.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 07:21:07 AM
I REALLY need to get into Schenker. Dinosaur Rock Guitar, which is easily the most comprehensive and knowledgable guitar site out there, has him as #1 all time.
I would start with the UFO albums:
Phenomenon
Force It
No Heavy Petting
Lights Out
Obsession
Strangers In The Night (live album)

Of the bunch, Strangers would be the way to go.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 30, 2012, 07:40:59 AM
Yeah, start with Strangers. They are the definitive versions of the songs for me. With the great guitar solo in Rock Bottom. Just get the original version, not the expanded one. It screws up the running order and adds nothing really.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 30, 2012, 11:50:28 AM
Quick update:
I got power back late last night. I will update thread when I get home from work today!

 :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 02:49:35 PM
Yeah, start with Strangers. They are the definitive versions of the songs for me. With the great guitar solo in Rock Bottom. 
:metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 02:51:30 PM
3. Iron Maiden- The Number Of The Beast (1982)

(https://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/a/image/1345/14/1345142119780.jpg)
(https://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/510f5HjEmGL/Iron-Maiden-The-Number-Of-The-Beast.jpg)

My earliest memories of Iron Maiden was MTV playing Wrathchild from the Rainbow show. I thought, man, this band looks cool.  I actually didn't have MTV where I lived yet, but would watch it at my grandmother's house almost every weekend.
 Then the following year came the video for Run To The Hills. A new singer, apparently, but this song was awesome!,
 In August of '82, my grandfather passed away. That meant my parents and brother moved in with my grandmother for a couple of weeks to get her squared away. My father, knowing how bored we would be, took us to the mall where we could each buy something to help us pass the time. I don't remember what my brother came back with, but I had me a cassette of The Number Of The Beast!! My Iron Maiden journey, which continues still today, was officially ON!
 To me, this album is still the standard bearer when it comes to Maiden. So many classics! Hallowed Be Thy Name, 22 Acacia Avenue, The Prisoner, Children Of The Damned, The Number Of The Beast, Run Too The Hills. And I even love Gangland...always have, and I do not get the hate for this song.
 Such an important album in heavy metal, and equally important in my life.
 
Five tracks: Hallowed Be Thy Name, Children Of The Damned, 22 Acacia Avenue, The Prisoner
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2012, 03:24:44 PM
:birch:

Ranked pretty high with me. Not only is it Maiden's standard bearer, I think it's the 80s metal standard bearer.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 30, 2012, 03:39:09 PM
Powerslave is my favorite IM album, but The Number of the Beast is a very close second. :2metal:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 30, 2012, 03:53:53 PM
 :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on October 30, 2012, 04:35:29 PM
Oh yeah!  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 04:37:35 PM
:birch:

:2metal:

:metal

Oh yeah!  :metal

 ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 30, 2012, 05:25:35 PM
I see what you did there. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: WebRaider on October 30, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
Awesome album!  :hat I have a hard time putting the classic Maiden albums in any distinct order but this one is definitely among the top for me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 30, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Awesome album!  :hat I have a hard time putting the classic Maiden albums in any distinct order but this one is definitely among the top for me.
Of the Dickinson 80's albums I go:
Number Of The Beast
Seventh Son
Piece Of Mind
Powerslave/Somewhere In Time
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on October 30, 2012, 07:24:46 PM
NOTB
PoM
7th Son
SiT
Power
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cedar redaC on October 30, 2012, 09:02:40 PM
Hm, my only Iron Maiden album is Piece of Mind, but Number and Seventh Son are both on my "to-get" list.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on October 30, 2012, 10:21:36 PM
POWERSLAVE :angry: :P
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on October 31, 2012, 02:37:02 AM
Great choice, TAC, and great story as well. Everybody loves The Number of the beast.  :heart
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 31, 2012, 03:33:57 AM
Invaaaaaaadeeeeersss!! nem-nem-nem-nem-nem....PILAGIIIIIINNNG!!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2012, 03:37:57 AM
Only Gangland drags this album down. Suffers a bit from "played it to death" syndrome but only because its a great album.

I remember hearing Dickinson for the first time with this album, after loving early Maiden and worrying what they were going to be like with a new guy- the worry- all for nothing. The new guy was awesome.

for me-

Powerslave
POM
TNOTB


SSOASS
SIT
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Zydar on October 31, 2012, 03:41:07 AM
An important album for sure, and a milestone in metal, but not a personal favourite of mine.

My Top 5 Maiden albums:

1. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
2. Somewhere In Time
3. Powerslave
4. Piece Of Mind
5. Iron Maiden

Number is still a great album though, many great songs on it.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 31, 2012, 06:57:33 AM
"Number of the Beast" is made of pure, 100%, unfiltered, un-fucked-with, AWESOMESAUCE  :hat
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 31, 2012, 07:48:46 AM
Still think Clive Burr was a HELL of a drummer, for his time.  :metal
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on October 31, 2012, 07:56:31 AM
Yeah, I prefer Clive to Nicko.

How awesome is that picture on the back of album? I can make a choice on what to buy purely from photos like that - if the other choice was a bunch of tattooed, goateed "tough guys" with shaved heads I would be able to tell right away that the hippie-looking guys would be a better listen.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 31, 2012, 08:05:52 AM
I thought for the Top 10, where possible, I would include the back covers. One thing I miss from the old record shops was looking at the front AND back covers while browsing.

Yes Clive was fantastic!

@ Dream Team:
I was listening to some Schenker era UFO as well as some early MSG last night. I was thinking of you. If you have not tapped this reservoir of greatness, you must do it!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on October 31, 2012, 09:45:12 AM
I thought for the Top 10, where possible, I would include the back covers. One thing I miss from the old record shops was looking at the front AND back covers while browsing.

Yes Clive was fantastic!

@ Dream Team:
I was listening to some Schenker era UFO as well as some early MSG last night. I was thinking of you. If you have not tapped this reservoir of greatness, you must do it!

Yeah, I'm on it. Probably my #1 musical goal at the moment.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 31, 2012, 11:12:28 AM
Never cared for that track they tacked on there in the later release of this album.  I always skip it and don't consider it part of the album at all.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on October 31, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
Oh, and I agree that Clive Burr was a better drummer than Nicko.  Not that Nicko is a bad drummer per se, but his repertoire of fills is pretty limited.   
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 31, 2012, 11:55:35 AM
Never cared for that track they tacked on there in the later release of this album.  I always skip it and don't consider it part of the album at all.
Total Eclipse.. I had it on the 45 of Run To The Hills, and no, I also cannot consider it as part of the album.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on October 31, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
2. UFO- Strangers In The Night (1978)

(https://musicplayer.ru/blg/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/gpr0611_albumUFOStrangers_nr.jpg)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3402/3291616996_7180137ed0_z.jpg)

I was already a Michael Schenker fan before I actually discovered UFO. In the winter of 82-83, I traded a Led Zeppelin pin to a kid on my hockey team for the vinyls of UFO's Obsession and Strangers In The Night.
 I was fascinated by this band. Real interesting lyrics and vocals, a hard rock edge, but a variety of songs that ranged from simple rockers to epic numbers. And of course, the guitar wizardry of Michael Schenker.
 Strangers In The Night was my most listened to album of that year, and it lead me through the entire UFO discography. UFO was basically finished at that point, but for all intents and purposes, they became my favorite band.
 Lots of live albums are claimed to be the best ever, and the are certainly many who list Strangers as one of them. Obviously, it is my favorite as well. It has a great live sound, bringing the studio versions to life in the way that they were meant to be. Paul Raymond's keyboards blend perfectly with Michael Schenker's. The live version of Rock Bottom is just incredible as you follow Schenker through that middle part, weaving throughout with Paul Raymond, culminating in a climactic unison. Love To Love, I 'm A Loser, Lights Out, Let It Roll, holy crap! How can this band not be more popular, I would always ask myself.
 Oh well, it was everyone else 's loss. I turned many people onto UFO through high school and college. If you have never heard them, please check out the  "Strangers" versions of the songs I just listed. This is one of those " moments in time" live albums where everything just clicked perfectly. An incredible performance that I never get sick of.
 
Fave tracks: The ones I listed in the write up.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on October 31, 2012, 05:38:26 PM
 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart

Great album. Best UFO album ever. Worthy of being No 2 in this great list.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on October 31, 2012, 10:17:07 PM
awesome live album
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wolfking on November 01, 2012, 04:21:14 AM
awesome live album
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cyclopssss on November 01, 2012, 05:51:20 AM
Yes Clive was fantastic!

I remember watching 'Beast over Hammersmith' on the Early Years dvd, and thinking 'damn, that drummer sounds awesome... his snarework is simply fantastic.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 01:53:35 PM

So, to recap 2-50:

50. Judas Priest-Screaming For Vengeance
49. Blackfoot-Siogo
48. Heavy Pettin' - Lettin, Loose
47. Heavenly- Dust To Dust
46. Led Zeppelin- Physical Graffiti
45. Y&T- Mean Streak
44. Anthrax- Stomp 442
43. Aerosmith- Night In The Ruts
42. Tesla- Mechanical Resonance
41. Hammerfall- Legacy Of Kings
40. The Sweet- Desolation Boulevard
39. Armored Saint- Symbol Of Salvation
38. Flotsam & Jetsam- No Place For Disgrace AND When The Storm Comes Down
37. Dream Theater- When Day And Dream REunite
36. Kiss- Hotter Than Hell
35. Megadeth- So Far So Good So What
34. Gary Moore- Corridors Of Power
33. Queensryche- Warning AND Operation Mindcrime
32. Saxon- Power And The Glory
31. Lucifer's Friend- Mean Machine
30. Dream Theater- A Dramatic Turn Of Events
29. Rush- Hemispheres
28. Metallica- And Justice For All
27. Def Leppard- High n Dry
26. Iron Maiden- Piece Of Mind
25. Ozzy Osbourne- Blizzard Of Ozz AND Diary Of A Madman
24. Waysted- The Good The Bad The Waysted AND the Waysted EP
23. AC/DC- Let There Be Rock
22. Thin Lizzy- Bad Reputation
21. UFO- Walk On Water
20. Rainbow- On Stage
19. Accept- Metal Heart
18. Riot- Narita & Fire Down Under
17. Alice Cooper- Welcome To My Nightmare AND Go To Hell
16. Iron Maiden- A Matter Of Life And Death AND The Final Frontier
15.  Iron Maiden- Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
14. Rush- Moving Pictures
13. Black Sabbath- Heaven And Hell
12. UFO- The Wild The Willing And The Innocent
11. Dio- Holy Diver
10. Alice Cooper- Killer AND School's Out
9. Thin Lizzy- Renegade
8. Dream Theayter- Scenes From A Memory AND Live Scenes From New York
7. Metallica- Kill "Em All
6. UFO- No Heavy Petting
5. Michael Schenker Group- MSG
4. Helloween- Keeper Of The Seven Keys Parts 1 AND 2
3. Iron Maiden- The Number Of The Beast
2. UFO-Strangers In The Night

And #1 is....



Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 01:55:21 PM
1. Dream Theater- Images And Words (1992)

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(https://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/51w4VXZkBTL/Dream-Theater-Images-&-Words.jpg)

Well, he we are...Number #1!!
 The 90's for me were looking pretty dreary for me. The bands that I loved seemed to have taken a step back and I didn't always agree with their new direction. I needed something new, and on June 8, 1992, my new favorite band was unveiled.
 I have told this story many times here on DTF, but that was the night we went to see Iron Maiden at The Ritz. We got there early to get a good spot up close, but that meant having to sit through some no name suck band. I saw the name Dream Theater on the marquee, even snapped a picture of it ( my avatar).
 Dream Theater came out and half way through the first song, Pull Me Under, I was blown away. Who the hell was this band and where the hell did they come from? Their set that night also included Under A Glass Moon, Metropolis, A Fortune In Lies, and Learning To Live.
 Maiden also put on an incredible show, but I could still not get over the opening band. We were right in front of JM. My two prevailing thoughts watching them were that the drummer was incredible, and the bassist was insane!
 When I got home, the album was not even out, so I had to wait a few weeks. I bought Images And Words the day it was released. I was shocked that a band could play music this good. I thought that this was the music Rush should be playing instead of jerking around. It also had the power of Iron Maiden and vocals that reminded me of Helloween. The perfect storm!!!
 I would see them three times in small clubs that winter, and I had a new favorite band! But how was that possible with just one album? It was when it was THIS album. I used to think what the future held as far as DT, and I am happy to say that I am even more of a fan today. As Iron Maiden and UFO were the soundtrack to my younger years, Dream Theater have been for my adult years. Images And Words has been the most listened to album of my life.
 
Five tracks: Learning To Live, Take The Time, Metropolis Pt. 1, Surrounded, Under A Glass Moon, Another Day, Pull Me Under, Wait For Sleep
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: WebRaider on November 01, 2012, 02:11:48 PM
BOOM!  :hefdaddy Just doesn't get much better!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 01, 2012, 02:15:19 PM
Not that there's anything wrong with any other aspects of your list, we were just slightly off (one could say 6 degrees) on our musical musings of the 80s.  However, it all ended in the same place.  I&W topped my list too.  About as damn near perfect as any single album can be.  Flawless.  Absolutely flawless.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 01, 2012, 02:30:12 PM

Five tracks: Learning To Live, Take The Time, Metropolis Pt. 1, Surrounded, Under A Glass Moon, Another Day, Pull Me Under, Wait For Sleep

I see what you did there.

five tracks, yet you listed each of the eight songs

NUGGETZZ

:clap:
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 02:31:57 PM

Five tracks: Learning To Live, Take The Time, Metropolis Pt. 1, Surrounded, Under A Glass Moon, Another Day, Pull Me Under, Wait For Sleep

I see what you did there.

five tracks, yet you listed each of the eight songs

NUGGETZZ

:clap:
:lol
Oh shit! A complete typo! Seriously! :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 01, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Still.....






:neverusethis:


 :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on November 01, 2012, 02:41:59 PM
 :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 01, 2012, 02:59:45 PM
Subliminal Prog at work.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 01, 2012, 04:04:23 PM
Nicely done, and stellar choice for the Top Dog spot. :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: crazyaga on November 01, 2012, 04:06:21 PM
Is it just me or ALOT of people have Images And Words at their 1st spot?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 04:10:52 PM
Is it just me or ALOT of people have Images And Words at their 1st spot?
Both! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Big Hath on November 01, 2012, 06:14:47 PM
Is it just me or ALOT of people have Images And Words at their 1st spot?

this is only the 3rd time it's been at the very top of a list, but it has been a top 10 album 14 times (only two other albums have even been mentioned 14 times.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Elite on November 01, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
Only the third?

If I recall correctly, it was in jingle's as well as in mine.
So yeah, superb choice.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Big Hath on November 01, 2012, 06:21:52 PM
that's it.  Elite, jingle, and now TAC.

It was #2 three times also: JRundquist, Volk, and Zook
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 01, 2012, 06:35:51 PM
So... I've got what might be a silly question - are albums done as honorable mentions included in the stats, or no?
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 01, 2012, 06:41:53 PM
Strangers Era UFO pic:
(https://www.daveling.co.uk/obs3.jpg)
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Big Hath on November 01, 2012, 06:53:25 PM
So... I've got what might be a silly question - are albums done as honorable mentions included in the stats, or no?

no, they are not.  I only include actual ranked albums.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 01, 2012, 07:03:11 PM
Gotcha.
 
Sorry for the slight derail, TAC.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dr. DTVT on November 02, 2012, 12:16:30 AM
On my long lost list, I&W was, and still is my #1 album as well, as it has been for the last 14 years.  Something knocking from that perch is essentially unfathomible to me.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Mladen on November 02, 2012, 12:48:02 AM
What a perfect way to end your list.  :tup
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 02, 2012, 02:45:31 AM
great job and great list
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2012, 05:36:37 AM
On my long lost list, I&W was, and still is my #1 album as well, as it has been for the last 14 years.  Something knocking from that perch is essentially unfathomible to me.
Yes it is amazing. I still remember that first year with it. I couldn't believe I was investing so much time with a "new" band. But it was music that was so above everything I had ever heard. I mean, I recognized a lot of the different elements, but it was somehow different, and better.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on November 02, 2012, 06:42:28 AM
Can't argue. Flawless record.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2012, 07:55:32 AM
great job and great list

+1.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on November 02, 2012, 11:38:35 AM
Great list TAC.  Just a tad surprised that Bruce Dickinson didn't make your top 50, especially considering he had H on those albums and how high you rate Maiden in general.   Some of Bruce's solo stuff clearly beats out several Maiden albums IMO.   
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2012, 12:28:46 PM
Great list TAC.  Just a tad surprised that Bruce Dickinson didn't make your top 50, especially considering he had H on those albums and how high you rate Maiden in general.   Some of Bruce's solo stuff clearly beats out several Maiden albums IMO.
Yeah those are great albums. When I started the process I listed all of the candidates and my original list had about 85-90 albums. Both Accident At Birth and The Chemical Wedding we're on that list.

They should be on the v2.
great job and great list

+1.

Thank you!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: kirksnosehair on November 02, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
That Dream Theater album almost seems out of place on your list, TAC
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Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 02, 2012, 01:25:00 PM
Yeah, no kidding. :lol
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Lowdz on November 02, 2012, 02:10:17 PM
They are a bit of an outsider for me too. Strange really as they are my favourite band but I'm not a huge fan of the genre, a couple of bands aside.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 02, 2012, 02:12:27 PM
That Dream Theater album almost seems out of place on your list, TAC

Well, One of my first loves was classic Rush. But I am a hard rock fan at heart. Dream Theater marries the two.

My favorite bands are:
1a. Dream Theater
1b. Iron Maiden
1c. UFO
4. Alice Cooper
5. Ronnie James Dio (all things Dio)
6. Thin Lizzy
7. Kiske era Helloween
8. Pre Signals Rush
9. Accept
10. 80's Metallica
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Scorpion on November 03, 2012, 05:03:27 AM
Worthy way to finish your list, though it's not my favourite DT album, but it was in my Top 5 as well. :tup

Great list, all in all.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on November 06, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Dream Theater really is an outlier of sorts on your 50 list.   Judging by your list, outside of DT, you must have hated the 90s and 00s for music. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: Dream Team on November 06, 2012, 11:16:01 AM
Dream Theater really is an outlier of sorts on your 50 list.   Judging by your list, outside of DT, you must have hated the 90s and 00s for music.

That certainly applies to me, and since I'm the same age as TAC it makes a lot of sense. Bands in the 90s/00s played a COMPLETELY different type of rock than what we grew up on. You had all the teen-angsty Nirvana-type crap, horrific nu-metal, dime-a-dozen indie bands, etc etc. Nothing that will ever compare with the Sabbath/Zeppelin/Rush/Aerosmith/Queen/ZZ Top/Scorpions/Maiden/I could go on forever classic rock bands of our youth.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
My biggest problem with the 90's wasn't so much the lack of new bands, but more the fact that the bands I liked from the 80's really fell off in terms of quality. The early 90's was still pretty strong, though.

For me, the best thing about the mid to late 90's was Michael Schenker returning to UFO.

And of course the 00's saw these great bands like Maiden and Saxon reemerge stronger than ever.

But yes, the 90's to me we're all about Dream Theater.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on November 06, 2012, 11:49:46 AM
Dream Theater really is an outlier of sorts on your 50 list.   Judging by your list, outside of DT, you must have hated the 90s and 00s for music.

That certainly applies to me, and since I'm the same age as TAC it makes a lot of sense. Bands in the 90s/00s played a COMPLETELY different type of rock than what we grew up on. You had all the teen-angsty Nirvana-type crap, horrific nu-metal, dime-a-dozen indie bands, etc etc. Nothing that will ever compare with the Sabbath/Zeppelin/Rush/Aerosmith/Queen/ZZ Top/Scorpions/Maiden/I could go on forever classic rock bands of our youth.

As another old Fogey I loved the Grunge movement ...AIC Dirt, Pearl Jam 10 and Soundgarden Bad Motorfinger was such a breathe of fresh air from all the rehashed stuff that was all over the place All 3 of those albums would be in my top 50 easily with Dirt easily being in my top 10 maybe even cracking my top 5
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: LudwigVan on November 06, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
Haha, that's kind of my point.  Throughout the 90s and 00s, you were clinging to your old 80s standbys like UFO, Schenker, Rush, etc but didn't really latch onto any of the newer bands that emerged during that era.   

Dream Team makes a great point about Dream Theater though.  They're one of the bands that writes and performs in the tradition of the classic prog/metal/hard rock acts that we grew up on.   To my mind, Porcupine Tree, Riverside, Flower Kings, Spocks Beard and Opeth are a few others that fall in the same boat.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2012, 12:02:03 PM
I had AIC's Facelift and I just thought it was second rate Armored Saint. I never followed up with them after that.
I also enjoyed the first Black Crowes album very much. As much as I liked some of the tracks on Ten (Black  :metal) I just couldn't make it through the entire album at once.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50!
Post by: wkiml on November 06, 2012, 12:07:30 PM
I had AIC's Facelift and I just thought it was second rate Armored Saint. I never followed up with them after that.
I also enjoyed the first Black Crowes album very much. As much as I liked some of the tracks on Ten (Black  :metal) I just couldn't make it through the entire album at once.

Listen to Dirt..anywhere you can find it....Layne's vocals and harmonies with Jerry just grab me
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2012, 01:09:11 PM
The thread has a new name! ;D
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: LudwigVan on November 06, 2012, 02:34:02 PM
I just find it fascinating how (generally speaking) the older we get the more we hold current music in disdain.  It's a phenomenon that happens with every single generation.   The refrain is always the same:  "The music sucks nowawadays... it'll be never be as good as enter names of nostagic/classic/oldies bands here."   

Music is so powerful that it tends to get anchored to a specific time and place.   So I guess if the music doesn't "speak" to you anymore, it's difficult to relate and easy to dismiss as "bad".   As a 49 y.o., I'm certainly guilty of this. 
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2012, 02:47:13 PM
Every era of music has something that's shit.  Personally, I just found the whole genre of grunge to be shit - some individual songs not-withstanding.  There's lots of 90s music that I love that I didn't discover until the 00s.  The 90s were just a time in my life (University, meeting wife, marriage, starting family) that I didn't explore too much.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 06, 2012, 03:29:00 PM
I just find it fascinating how (generally speaking) the older we get the more we hold current music in disdain.  It's a phenomenon that happens with every single generation.   The refrain is always the same:  "The music sucks nowawadays... it'll be never be as good as enter names of nostagic/classic/oldies bands here."   

Music is so powerful that it tends to get anchored to a specific time and place.   So I guess if the music doesn't "speak" to you anymore, it's difficult to relate and easy to dismiss as "bad".   As a 49 y.o., I'm certainly guilty of this.

I think we get so busy it is hard to explore new stuff. When I probably have a total of under 5 hours a week to listen to music, it is tough. If I have a spare 15 minutes it is going to be something I know I'm gonna enjoy.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jingle.boy on November 06, 2012, 05:12:37 PM
Fortunately, I work from home, so as long as I'm not on a call, music is always on. I'd say a good 6 hours a day minimum.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 06, 2012, 05:29:46 PM
I grew up with the grunge movement; that's all I heard in school. I didn't think much of it at the time and still don't. Alice in Chains are decent though. But 70s and 80s rock/metal just blow the 90s and 00s mainstream rock sound out of the water.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 06, 2012, 06:02:03 PM
Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Nirvana and Pearl Jam (to a point) were the best bands to come out of the "grunge" movement IMO, and they're the "big 4" of the 90s Seattle bands.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2012, 02:59:21 AM
Fortunately, I work from home, so as long as I'm not on a call, music is always on. I'd say a good 6 hours a day minimum.

You're a lucky man Chad. I get my journey time to work (25 mins or so) and whatever I can cram in around the kids and when the Mrs is watching trash tv.

I hated Grunge. I found nothing in it to like. The  songs were dreary and miserable and I didn't feel like that at the time. And the musicians were no better than me. And the funniest thing was the grunge guitarists giving lessons in Guitar World mag when they sounded like they needed the lessons. The 90s (especially the late 90s) were the lost years for me.
What I didn't like were the 80s bands "going grunge" because it didn't work. Grunge was a reaction against those bands so the grunge fans were unlikely to embrace them and their core fans would only feel betrayed at the new direction.
I did find some new music in the 90s but I had to work harder for it.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2012, 05:09:23 AM
My store is literally 7 minutes (5 miles) from my house.

Ironically I saw AIC open the Clash Of The Titans your with 3 of the original Big Four bands. A passing of the torch, of you will.

I will say that I love Nirvana's Unplugged In New York. That is a fantastic album.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 07, 2012, 12:14:45 PM
I will say that I love Nirvana's Unplugged In New York. That is a fantastic album.

Agreed - I think only In Utero comes anywhere close to it.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 07, 2012, 02:28:05 PM
I think the one example of an 80s band changing their sound for the better in the 90s was Motley Crue.  That s/t with John Corabi is better then anything they did in the 80s- with the possible exception being Shout at the Devil.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 07, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
I could not listen to In Utero. It was nothing but noise.

I think the one example of an 80s band changing their sound for the better in the 90s was Motley Crue.  That s/t with John Corabi is better then anything they did in the 80s- with the possible exception being Shout at the Devil.

Never heard a lick of it. Recommend me two tracks.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 07, 2012, 03:00:50 PM
I think the one example of an 80s band changing their sound for the better in the 90s was Motley Crue.  That s/t with John Corabi is better then anything they did in the 80s- with the possible exception being Shout at the Devil.

Agreed wholeheartedly - I also must be about the only person who didn't dig on the Dr. Feelgood album.  Total dreck IMO.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: Lowdz on November 07, 2012, 03:16:47 PM
I think the one example of an 80s band changing their sound for the better in the 90s was Motley Crue.  That s/t with John Corabi is better then anything they did in the 80s- with the possible exception being Shout at the Devil.

Not for me. It had a huge sound but lacked songs for me (there are a couple of good ones but I've not been tempted to listen to it in years) and I generally detest the downtuned guitar sound grunge and nu-metal brought with it.

I'll take Shout At The Devil and Dr Feelgood over the S/T. I wasn't the biggest Crue fan though, barring those two albums and a few scattered songs.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: r0cken on November 07, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
Corabi was the best thing that happened to the Crue.
And then they ditched him.

TAC, here are two tracks they made videos for, if you'd like: Hooligan's Holiday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zgjIGaIo4) and Misunderstood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0wJbKpn7U4).
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: Lowdz on November 08, 2012, 02:34:25 AM
Corabi was the best thing that happened to the Crue.
And then they ditched him.

TAC, here are two tracks they made videos for, if you'd like: Hooligan's Holiday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2zgjIGaIo4) and Misunderstood (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0wJbKpn7U4).

Those two and Poison Apple were good tracks. I'm actually a fan of Corabi from his time in The Scream. It was the style of the S/T that I wasn't a fan of.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 08, 2012, 12:27:34 PM
The whole album is great.  Hooligans Holiday and Misunderstood were the singles.  Other standouts are Poison Apples, Droppin Like Flies and Uncle Jack.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 08, 2012, 12:51:51 PM
The video link a few posts ago to HH didn't work, but. Misunderstood just sounded like a million other songs.
I'll try a couple others.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: kirksnosehair on November 09, 2012, 01:42:51 PM
TAC, you ever check out any Metal Church?   
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2012, 02:13:32 PM
TAC, you ever check out any Metal Church?
I LOVE the three albums they did with Mike Howe. Love 'em! Essential albums in my collection.

I have never gotten into the David Wayne era. I also have one of the albums they did with Ronnie Munroe, but it is not that special.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 09, 2012, 03:21:21 PM
The debut from Metal Church is bad ass.  The album cover is pure metal.

I believe David Howe sang on "Badlands"- now that is a heavy metal song!!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2012, 03:46:42 PM
Yeah, Badlands is from Blessing In Disguise, the first album they did with Mike Howe.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
Blessing in Disguise is an amazing album.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2012, 04:49:12 PM
Blessing in Disguise is an amazing album.
I used to listen to it at the gym back in the day. I love it but It actually might be my least favorite of the three.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: wolfking on November 09, 2012, 04:58:37 PM
That's the one I'm most familiar with in regards to their older stuff, I have a few of their cd's, I should dig them out.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: TAC on November 09, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
The other two Howe era ones are The Human Factor and Hanging In The Balance. Both are fantastic!
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: jjrock88 on November 10, 2012, 01:43:54 AM
New Skid Row announced in early 2013 called United World Rebellion.  I keep hearing rumblings about Bach coming back.  Would love to see it and I think that would be best for the career of both the band and Bach.  The two albums the band did with Johnny have been pretty sub par.
Title: Re: The TAC Top 50! v. Old guys talking about music!
Post by: r0cken on November 10, 2012, 05:58:07 AM
Nah, Scotti Hill (Skids guitarist) denied (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=181353) the rumors about any reunion with Bach.

I don't mind that, I like Johnny (and I used to be the hugest Skid Row fan). I just wish Snake and Bolan will write decent material this time. Anything better than the last two records will do.