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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: adace on July 11, 2012, 04:07:18 AM
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This sounds amazing. Really wish the band members weren't talking over the song, but I am still thoroughly impressed. :metal :metal :metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AH4EWifqLk&feature=g-u-u (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AH4EWifqLk&feature=g-u-u)
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Sounds incredible. Been waiting for this for a while. :metal
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:caffeine:
Still no North American release date though?
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Sounds cool! I love Damian's voice!
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Thanks, i have been waiting for this for a long time- they are one of my favourite bands and it has been too long since 'Dead Reckoning'. The song sounds very promising, i just wonder why Johanne James can't speak :biggrin: (i am sure he is not dumb, i heard his voice on Kyrbgrinder records)
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He just wouldn't have been around when they did the interviews. Most of the interviews are post making the album so he did his drums a long time ago, so he probably just didn't hang around for teh entire recording time.
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I prefer Mac in Threshold, but after hearing the Headspace album I'm super psyched for this.
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I'm with you, Nick. I never really cared much for Damian Wilson's prior output with Threshold, but his voice definitely grew on me with that Headspace album, so I am going to be listening to this new Threshold stuff with a new perspective.
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I'm with you, Nick. I never really cared much for Damian Wilson's prior output with Threshold, but his voice definitely grew on me with that Headspace album, so I am going to be listening to this new Threshold stuff with a new perspective.
That is a Nick-level fail right there. Extinct Instinct is great. Wounded Land is pretty damn fine too. Not knocking Mac at all, the stuff there is awesome, but I'm just as much a fan of the two Wilson albums.
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Maybe they'll round up Van Morrison, and Barbara Streisand and have a "We've Gotten Over Our Stage Fright" Tour 2012.
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YBS... this will be the last prog-band-with-a-five-year-hiatus you can slag (I think). Whatever shall you do come September?
:rollin
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I'm with you, Nick. I never really cared much for Damian Wilson's prior output with Threshold, but his voice definitely grew on me with that Headspace album, so I am going to be listening to this new Threshold stuff with a new perspective.
That is a Nick-level fail right there. Extinct Instinct is great. Wounded Land is pretty damn fine too. Not knocking Mac at all, the stuff there is awesome, but I'm just as much a fan of the two Wilson albums.
Extinct Instinct is hands down my favorite album of theirs. And honestly I think I like both Mac and Wilson equally. There's no distinctive preference.
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:caffeine:
Still no North American release date though?
I"ll let you know when it...er..."pops" up.
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so what's the chances they will ever do a small U.S. tour?
I've been a fan of this band for 12 years now and would love to see them.
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Tour? Slim to none. I would consider a ProgPower appearance in the next three years to be a good possibility though.
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I'm with you, Nick. I never really cared much for Damian Wilson's prior output with Threshold, but his voice definitely grew on me with that Headspace album, so I am going to be listening to this new Threshold stuff with a new perspective.
That is a Nick-level fail right there. Extinct Instinct is great. Wounded Land is pretty damn fine too. Not knocking Mac at all, the stuff there is awesome, but I'm just as much a fan of the two Wilson albums.
I think the problem for me was I heard Mac first. My first Threshold album was "Clone" and I loved it. In fact, I didn't hear the older stuff with Damian Wilson until I had purchased all of the Mac stuff first, so it was a little bit of a shock to the system, I guess. I didn't think it was "bad" or anything, but I just didn't care for his voice.
It has grown on me quite a bit, though. In fact, I think I will go back and listen to that Threshold material with fresh ears and see what I think now. Why not?
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See, I was the opposite. I only checked out Threshold cos I really liked Damian Wilson's vocals in Ayreon, so I was a bit disappointed when I pecked out songs at random only to repeatedly find some other fellow howling along.
Seeing them live clicked everything into place, for me. Instantly fell in love with Mac in the right context. Bought Clone straight off the bat for the Latent Gene alone. This was followed, based purely on the snazzy name, by Psychedelicatessen, which I reacted to in much the same way I reacted to Mac's vocals. "This is fine, but not at all what I was looking for." This is still subject to re-evaluation, as I have yet to see Glynn Morgan live. I liked Under the Sun, though.
Wounded Land didn't come until much later, and despite some superb tracks, superb vocals and a superb cover art, it's never stuck with me in the same way as the albums of Mac's era. So primordial - none of the slick keys, soaring melodies, thick harmonies. Good album, I enjoyed it, but they'd quite clearly not found their identity yet - very different to the band they'd eventually become.
Never checked out Extinct Instinct - only gap in my collection, shame on me! - so I'm very excited to finally hear Damian Wilson singing with the big, beefy, confident Threshold. I do wish it were under less tragic circumstances, but this trailer has cemented that excitement, at the very least.
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See, I was the opposite. I only checked out Threshold cos I really liked Damian Wilson's vocals in Ayreon, so I was a bit disappointed when I pecked out songs at random only to repeatedly find some other fellow howling along.
Seeing them live clicked everything into place, for me. Instantly fell in love with Mac in the right context. Bought Clone straight off the bat for the Latent Gene alone. This was followed, based purely on the snazzy name, by Psychedelicatessen, which I reacted to in much the same way I reacted to Mac's vocals. "This is fine, but not at all what I was looking for." This is still subject to re-evaluation, as I have yet to see Glynn Morgan live. I liked Under the Sun, though.
Wounded Land didn't come until much later, and despite some superb tracks, superb vocals and a superb cover art, it's never stuck with me in the same way as the albums of Mac's era. So primordial - none of the slick keys, soaring melodies, thick harmonies. Good album, I enjoyed it, but they'd quite clearly not found their identity yet - very different to the band they'd eventually become.
Never checked out Extinct Instinct - only gap in my collection, shame on me! - so I'm very excited to finally hear Damian Wilson singing with the big, beefy, confident Threshold. I do wish it were under less tragic circumstances, but this trailer has cemented that excitement, at the very least.
Whoa, go get Extinct Instinct ASAP. In my eyes its the I&W of Threshold. There is some wild stuff on that album. It was actually the last Threshold album that completed my collection and I really regret not getting it earlier.
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I got into them initially due to Dr.DTVT's recommendation for Dead Reckoning, and then jumped on to them because I love Wilson in Star One. Went with EI, and a damn fine thing I did. Then promptly got the full discog. Not a bad one in there... even Pyschedelicatessen is pretty good.
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Sounds cool. I really need to check out more albums from this band.
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I guess I should probably go ahead and get the rest of their albums. I have Wounded Land, Hypothetical, Critical Mass, Clone, Dead Reckoning and Subsurface......I think Hypothetical and Clone are probably my favorites, but they're all good.
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March Of !
March Of !
March Of Progress I'm pulling your strings !
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I went ahead and purchased "Extinct Instinct" from Amazon.com download. It's a damned fine album :tup
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I guess I should probably go ahead and get the rest of their albums. I have Wounded Land, Hypothetical, Critical Mass, Clone, Dead Reckoning and Subsurface......I think Hypothetical and Clone are probably my favorites, but they're all good.
Hypothetical is by far their best album. For some reason Clone just doesn't measure up to the rest of their catalog, it's my least played studio album by them. I like their first three albums more than most people for some reason though.
Can't wait for the new album.
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I guess I should probably go ahead and get the rest of their albums. I have Wounded Land, Hypothetical, Critical Mass, Clone, Dead Reckoning and Subsurface......I think Hypothetical and Clone are probably my favorites, but they're all good.
Hypothetical is by far their best album. For some reason Clone just doesn't measure up to the rest of their catalog, it's my least played studio album by them. I like their first three albums more than most people for some reason though.
Can't wait for the new album.
I've never really been able to get into Clone. That and Psycadelicatessen are albums I don't really listen to. Besides those two, I love all their other albums.
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I'd say Extinct Instinct is their best.
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"Ashes" (the radio edit) is streaming!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0YGhE9Seok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0YGhE9Seok)
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Damn that was hot! Me excite.
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Whoa, that sounds great! :eek
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Yeah, Mac died last year from cancer.
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Yeah, I forgot about that.... :facepalm:
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Can't wait to get home and listen.
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official vid from Nuclear Blast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfkyRlL06hM&feature=g-u-u (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfkyRlL06hM&feature=g-u-u)
Man this song is great. So darn catchy.
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Great fucking song, I love it.
EDIT: This song is simply amazing, I can't stop listening to it.
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/March-Of-Progress/dp/B008RPVBTY/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344419899&sr=301-1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/March-Of-Progress/dp/B008RPVBTY/ref=sr_shvl_album_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344419899&sr=301-1)
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The new song is still amazing, I find myself coming back to it a lot.
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Had no idea Damian Wilson was back in Threshold. That quadruples my excitement for this new album.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A-X1O-GclA&feature=g-all-u
:metal :metal
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From those previews, I'm really looking forward to this album now.
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Yeah, it's sounding amazing, can't wait.
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Sounding pretty good.
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You can download "Staring at the Sun" for free as part of the video contest.
https://www.nuclearblast.de/de/lp/threshold-video-contest.html (https://www.nuclearblast.de/de/lp/threshold-video-contest.html)
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^^^
That is a damn fine track. Its got a very fresh sound to it.
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I am excite for this!
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I'm looking forward to this. :coolio
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Has anyone pre ordered this yet? If so, where from, it seems to be a bit more difficult to get than expected. My usual site doesn't have it released until Sep 11.
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From those previews, I'm really looking forward to this album now.
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now available for preorder on itunes (1.5 minute samples are streaming there too)
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March Of Progress track-by-track pt.2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnx1JptFp7k
Seriously... super excited for this. May have to start me a listening countdown of the discog at the beginning of September.
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This is sounding really, really good. Getting excited.
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March Of Progress track-by-track pt.2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnx1JptFp7k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnx1JptFp7k)
Seriously... super excited for this. May have to start me a listening countdown of the discog at the beginning of September.
I've already started doing that, and I've got stuff that's new to me. I recently bought "Psychedelicatessen" and "Extinct Instinct" since I never had heard either of them before. Interesting to hear what they sounded like when they first started out. Their sound has definitely evolved.
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Good song, but I don't like Damien's voice very much. His vocals in the verses sound...meh.
(If it makes a difference, I've never heard his previous albums with Threshold).
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Just listened to the whole thing. Awesome album. The ending to The Rubicon is one of the band's finest moments. 9/10
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Amazing album!
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Amazing album!
indeed. Its very impressive and I have always loved Damian's voice. Its definitely got the old school Threshold sound.
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It's awesome!!! I've spun it 4-5 times in the last week. Love it.
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indeed. Its very impressive and I have always loved Damian's voice. Its definitely got the old school Threshold sound.
It's pretty standard Threshold, but it's better than usually somehow. It's pretty much playing all the time here. And yea, Damian Wilson sounds really good.
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Finally got around to buying this today. One time through so far and I think it's pretty killer :hat
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Pretty impressed with the new album! I was getting a bit bored of Threshold, but although the new album is basically more of the same, if just feels more tight and engaging than the last couple of albums. Great performance from Damian as well!
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Yeah, I've been spinning it non stop most of the last week and I think it's great. In fact, I'd put it right up there with my favorite: Hypothetical
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Only listened to it once and it's a long record and a lot to digest, but for a first listen it was excellent. The bonus track was actually one of the best for me.
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Really good album.
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The last album impressed me a lot more, mac was better imo.
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All I know is Damian's having a hell of a year so far, with Headspace, Treshold and Maiden United. :metal
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Eh, I don't know if I'd say Mac was "better" I just think they're different. But I can definitely understand why some people might like Mac's vocals better. In fact, I think I probably preferred his sound a little more, but with that said, I think Damian has done a fine job here.
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I prefer Mac, but Damian is also a first rate singer.
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Ok, apologies if there is/was one of these already, but the A-Z index and Search turned up nothing. Can't believe we don't have one of these already.
Well, March of Progress is quickly turning into a contender for Album of the Year for me. But the real reason I came to post was this from their FB page today:
THRESHOLD have been confirmed for next year's Sweden Rock Festival which takes place in Sölvesborg on 5-8 June 2013. Other bands on the bill include rock legends Kiss, Rush and Status Quo.
Fuckin Europeans get all the best shit - and I don't mean Zy's coke. Zy, you better be going to this.
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https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=33072.0
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Search function sucks around here. I knew we talked about this!
Mods... feel free to merge
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Album has moved from 'good' after initial impression to 'very damn good'. I am pleased with the effort.
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I guess my problem is that Damian sings in the typical prog singer style that I really don't appreciate. LaBrie is one of the few who I find fine, but I always prefer singers from bands like Riverside/Porcupine Tree/Opeth/Pain of Salvation. It doesn't even matter that it's high, I frigging love Coheed and Cambria, but the typical prog and power metal singers are just not my taste at all.
(related but off-topic: I would be mightily pissed off that Roy Khan left Kamelot since as they are the only power metal band with a non-typical singer, except that their last album was utterly terrible so no loss. The new guy is cool, but I have no interest in any new material with him.)
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I guess my problem is that Damian sings in the typical prog singer style that I really don't appreciate. LaBrie is one of the few who I find fine, but I always prefer singers from bands like Riverside/Porcupine Tree/Opeth/Pain of Salvation. It doesn't even matter that it's high, I frigging love Coheed and Cambria, but the typical prog and power metal singers are just not my taste at all.
(related but off-topic: I would be mightily pissed off that Roy Khan left Kamelot since as they are the only power metal band with a non-typical singer, except that their last album was utterly terrible so no loss. The new guy is cool, but I have no interest in any new material with him.)
I know what you mean. There's something about the vocals that I'm not loving. Damian is a great singer- there's just something "overdramatic" about the delivery? Not sure that's it exactly. It's not a deal-breaker and the songs are excellent.
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Definitely in my top 5 for the year.
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Definitely in my top 5 for the year.
I can definitely see it making my Top 10.
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I guess my problem is that Damian sings in the typical prog singer style that I really don't appreciate. LaBrie is one of the few who I find fine, but I always prefer singers from bands like Riverside/Porcupine Tree/Opeth/Pain of Salvation. It doesn't even matter that it's high, I frigging love Coheed and Cambria, but the typical prog and power metal singers are just not my taste at all.
(related but off-topic: I would be mightily pissed off that Roy Khan left Kamelot since as they are the only power metal band with a non-typical singer, except that their last album was utterly terrible so no loss. The new guy is cool, but I have no interest in any new material with him.)
I get what you mean, and I agree 100%. I'm not the biggest listener of the more traditional Progressive Metal anymore (bands like DT, Symphony X, Threshold etc), but Threshold before with the previous singer was not that bad, and I quite enjoyed it actually. This singer singer doesn't do anything for me. It's not that he's bad, but he just sounds very "typical" for the genre, and I didn't really care for his vocals on the first albums, and it doesn't really change here.
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This album slays :hat
That is all
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total blast,
one of the most impressive album from recent time ...
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THRESHOLD will be touring Europe in March 2013 to promote their new studio album "March Of Progress". Here are the dates:
01 March 2013 Underworld London, England
02 March 2013 Lakei Helmond, Netherlands
03 March 2013 Baroeg Rotterdam, Netherlands
04 March 2013 Markthalle Hamburg, Germany
05 March 2013 C-Club Berlin, Germany
06 March 2013 Progresja Warsaw, Poland
08 March 2013 Kulturfabrik Kufstein, Austria
09 March 2013 Kiff Aarau, Switzerland
11 March 2013 Orto Bar Ljubljana, Slovenia
12 March 2013 Spectrum Augsburg, Germany
13 March 2013 Colos Saal Aschaffenburg, Germany
14 March 2013 Rockfabrik Ludwigsburg, Germany
15 March 2013 Turock Essen, Germany
16 March 2013 Bastard Club Osnabrück, Germany
17 March 2013 Biebob Vosselaar, Belgium
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I'll do 17 March 2013 Biebob Vosselaar, Belgium and 11 May London :metal
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Europeans... bite me (envy)
North Americans ... bite me (generally, music tastes suck - hence all these great bands don't come over here).
le sigh.
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:lol
aww :hug:
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Actual part of Europe that gets gigs - bite me...
Slovenia is relatively close (I think it's less than 10 hours?) but I'm not up for making a journey alone, and it would be a bit pricey.
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I'll do 17 March 2013 Biebob Vosselaar, Belgium and 11 May London :metal
Too bad you won't do the Baroeg, Rotterdam....we could have met! (very small place, though) :xbones
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I'll do 17 March 2013 Biebob Vosselaar, Belgium and 11 May London :metal
Too bad you won't do the Baroeg, Rotterdam....we could have met! (very small place, though) :xbones
Hey I might actually.. let me see hun!
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A British band and one gig in London? The UK music scene sucks. But it must be worse in France - no gigs. Thank God. ;D
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They are playing the Celebr8 festival too... so it makes two ;D
but yeah I hear you!
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Enochian Theory just announced they'll be the support act for the Euro tour. Fuck my life, I am DYING to see Enochian Theory :'(
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Video Premiere: Threshold – Staring At The Sun (https://www.progrockmag.com/news/video-premiere-threshold-staring-at-the-sun/)
Damian :heart
Pete Morten's band, MY SOLILOQUY.... My goodness! Can he sing!!!! :omg:
MY SOLILOQUY 'The Interpreter' Album Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5wTTWuwfs)
Exclusive Song Stream: My Soliloquy’s “Fractured” (https://www.metalinsider.net/new-music/exclusive-song-stream-my-soliloquys-fractured)
Pete's FB Page (https://www.facebook.com/PeteMortenUK?fref=ts)
So much awesome :hearts:
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tbh... I prefer the pure artistry of the original video without Damian. Don't know why, I just do.
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I liked that video until today... After seeing it with Damian in, I can't really go back and watch the one without....
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this disc is still getting lots of spins from me
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and me
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Me too!
(https://www.kirksnosehair.com/Portals/0/images/smilies/knh.gif)
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Ditto.
tune in to my top 50 in the next coming days
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Pete Morten's band, MY SOLILOQUY.... My goodness! Can he sing!!!! :omg:
MY SOLILOQUY 'The Interpreter' Album Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5wTTWuwfs)
Exclusive Song Stream: My Soliloquy’s “Fractured” (https://www.metalinsider.net/new-music/exclusive-song-stream-my-soliloquys-fractured)
Pete's FB Page (https://www.facebook.com/PeteMortenUK?fref=ts)
So much awesome :hearts:
I made a thread about this album yesterday! The Interpreter is a great album!
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Have you?? :caffeine:
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I listened to this a bit when it came out but with other albums going on it sort of didn't get the attention it deserved, even though I enjoyed it. Just getting back into it and man it's killer. There's still a lot to grow even more on me, but I really like it.
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I listened to this a bit when it came out but with other albums going on it sort of didn't get the attention it deserved, even though I enjoyed it. Just getting back into it and man it's killer. There's still a lot to grow even more on me, but I really like it.
Damn right. :tup
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It's such a big album, in length and sound. You hear so much on each listen, I'm enjoying it more and more each time I listen. I'm impressed how strong the bonus track is too, stronger than a lot of the normal songs.
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I need to dig this back out and play it some more.
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I've only heard three albums by Threshold, but I like every song so far. Their songs are so tight and memorable.
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Almost finished listening to this album again. Awesome.
Rubicon :heart :heart :heart
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Glad you came back around dude.
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It's very solid.
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Yep, it's a fantastic album and one of the best of 2012. It's my first and only Threshold album, but I'm planning on picking up their entire catalog some time this year.
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British progressive metallers THRESHOLD are back in the studio working on the follow-up to 2012's "March Of Progress" for a 2014 release via Nuclear Blast.
Comments THRESHOLD guitarist Karl Groom: "It's good to be working on a new THRESHOLD album and cut the time between releases.
"Our touring for the 'March Of Progress' album inspired Rich [West, keyboards] and I to get writing not long after the main set of dates.
"We want to thank everyone for their support during that time. I should add that other members of the band have also have been writing!
"Right now I am tracking rhythm guitars and Johanne [James, drums] is due in the studio as soon as we put the finishing touched on a couple of songs.
"Hopefully 2014 will be another memorable year for THRESHOLD."
Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/threshold-back-in-the-studio/#yGQGFsLKFUGwFQbh.99
FUCK YEAH!! :metal
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Fuck Yeah is right. :metal :2metal: :letam:
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Awesomesauce!!! (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55966936/pics/beavisnbutthead.gif)
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Can't wait! :metal
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Sounds great, though I still have yet to get March Of Progress.
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Fuck Yeah is right. :metal :2metal: :letam:
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34714.msg1700654#msg1700654
Chad, click. You were saying? :lol
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Touche!
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From FB yesterday.
Threshold have just revealed the title of their upcoming new record which is due to be released at the end of September via Nuclear Blast. The successor to their 2012 output "March Of Progress" will be called "For The Journey".
The album is currently being produced at Thin Ice Studios in England, by band members Karl Groom (guitars) and Richard West (keyboards).
Commented Richard West: "Our recording sessions have been wonderful, we’ve really enjoyed making this record. All the basic parts are recorded so now it's just a case of finishing our solos, compiling the vocals and adding more production moments. I think we've made a very solid record, we're really looking forward to putting it out there!"
The band will take a short break from the studio in April to perform shows in Germany and Holland before commencing the final mixing at Thin Ice Studios in May.
:woot:
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If the new one can top, or at least match, March of Progress then I'll be a happy camper.
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Looking forward to this one.
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Always keen to check out a new one from Threshold (a band I've followed from the start) - I didn't connect with March of Progress though , so hoping they regain whatever it was that was missing in terms of my taste. Dead Reckoning was a goodun- just listened to that yesterday.
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I was on a Hypothetical kick the other week. Still their best album.
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Finally got around to really give a good listen to March of Progress and its very solid Threshold. :tup
I've always loved Damien's work with the band, so I was very happy to see him come back on board to be singer. Very good stuff.
Especially Rubicon, holy shit!! :metal
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Can't wait to hear the new one. I like every album they've ever released, so I think they've got pretty good odds of pleasing me :lol
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Out Sept. 30 in the U.S.! Can't wait!
1. Watchtower on the Moon
2. Unforgiven
3. The Box
4. Turned to Dust
5. Lost in your Memory
6. Autumn Red
7. The Mystery Show
8. Siren Sky
Bonus tracks:
9. I Wish I Could - digipak, vinyl and download versions
10. Lost in your Memory (Acoustic Version) - vinyl and download versions
(https://i.imgur.com/gD3N8be.jpg)
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I stumbled across some live vids of Threshold with Mac - looked like an official release. They were older songs I didn't know but very good. That bloke could sing. I find DW a bit harder to listen to. Not that he doesn't have a great voice, I just find it a bit camp.
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Schwing!! Really looking forward to this. As much as I love Mac, I prefer Wilson fronted Threshold.
Paul.... there's a couple of Threshold live DVDs... very fun to watch.
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Can't wait to get this. :corn
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Love threshold, can't wait. :metal
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I stumbled across some live vids of Threshold with Mac - looked like an official release. They were older songs I didn't know but very good. That bloke could sing. I find DW a bit harder to listen to. Not that he doesn't have a great voice, I just find it a bit camp.
That's probably the Critial Energy DVD. Really solid release.
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Paul.... there's a couple of Threshold live DVDs... very fun to watch.
I thought there was only Critial Energy?
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so I have March of Progress and I love it, but I have not heard a single note of any previous Threshold albums. Where do I go next (I'm fully aware of the change in vocals)?
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Hath, I'd go with Critical Energy. It's a live album with a lot of tunes. Some great stuff. A lot of the vocals were redone in the studio though. Makes the DVD kind of awkward at times. Still very cool.
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Paul.... there's a couple of Threshold live DVDs... very fun to watch.
I thought there was only Critial Energy?
Right you are... brain cramp. I bout CE the same time I bought a couple of Royal Hunt DVDs, and my brain thought that it was Threshold had a couple of live DVDs. My bad.
so I have March of Progress and I love it, but I have not heard a single note of any previous Threshold albums. Where do I go next (I'm fully aware of the change in vocals)?
Personally, Subsurface is my favorite Mac-era album. Though you honestly can't go wrong with any of them... Clone, Dead Reckoning and Hypothetical, Critical Mass are all awesome. Extinct Instinct (Wilson era) is also excellent.
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I really like Critical Mass, it might have to do with it being my first experience of Threshold, but it has some amazing tunes.
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so I have March of Progress and I love it, but I have not heard a single note of any previous Threshold albums. Where do I go next (I'm fully aware of the change in vocals)?
Essential Threshold albums:
Clone
Hypothetical
Critical Mass
Subsurface
Dead Reckoning
March of Progress
The other, older albums are good, but not as consistently good as 6.
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We're a lot of fucking help, aren't we!?!? :lol
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so I have March of Progress and I love it, but I have not heard a single note of any previous Threshold albums. Where do I go next (I'm fully aware of the change in vocals)?
pretty much all of them
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pretty much all of them
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If I could only one Threshold album, it would be Hypothetical. Not that others aren't good, Hypothetical is simply great.
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Yeah that's my favourite too, probably with March of Progress a close second.
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Dead Reckoning was my first album, and I'd still say it's my fav, probably just for that reason though.
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I'm no help, but pretty much like others said, anything from the Mac era is a good choice.
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For anyone really into Damien's work with the band, I highly recommend Extinct Instinct. It sounds a tad bit dated, but the music is incredible.
(https://www.thresh.net/extinctinstinct.jpg)
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For anyone really into Damien's work with the band, I highly recommend Extinct Instinct. It sounds a tad bit dated, but the music is incredible.
(https://www.thresh.net/extinctinstinct.jpg)
This would easily be my second favourite behind Dead reckoning, it's incredible.
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Threshold have premiered their lyric video for new track Watchtower On The Moon.
It's taken from their tenth album, For The Journey, set for launch on September 22 via Nuclear Blast.
Keyboardist Richard West says of the follow-up to 2012's March Of Progress: "It's one of our strongest albums, and one of the most enjoyable to make. I've probably heard it a thousand times during the recording process – but now it's over I still can't stop listening to it."
For The Journey is available for pre-order now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYSRker8UM
I just went from 6 to 12.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYSRker8UM
I just went from 6 to 12.
Yeah, as soon as you saw John Myung on roids!
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Another solid Threshold tune :metal
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Nice song. Looking forward to the album!
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Threshold have premiered their lyric video for new track Watchtower On The Moon.
It's taken from their tenth album, For The Journey, set for launch on September 22 via Nuclear Blast.
Keyboardist Richard West says of the follow-up to 2012's March Of Progress: "It's one of our strongest albums, and one of the most enjoyable to make. I've probably heard it a thousand times during the recording process – but now it's over I still can't stop listening to it."
For The Journey is available for pre-order now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYSRker8UM
I just went from 6 to 12.
Pretty damn nice, but nothing we haven't heard before.
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That sounded awesome. Threshold is incredible.
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Recently started listening to March of Progress A LOT (for some reason, I never really fully checked it out, despite loving Damian Wilson vocals and always liking Threshold tunes). But that album is really, really good. Immediately bought a physical copy. Looking forward to the new one.
So, how are these guys live? I am considering to attend a concert of theirs in a few months.
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samples are up: https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Bonus-Version-Threshold/dp/B00MRR91NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1408180255&sr=1-2&keywords=threshold+for+the+journey (https://www.amazon.com/Journey-Bonus-Version-Threshold/dp/B00MRR91NQ/ref=sr_1_2?s=dmusic&ie=UTF8&qid=1408180255&sr=1-2&keywords=threshold+for+the+journey)
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Turned to Dust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6Ibhyx5GY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6Ibhyx5GY)
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Turned to Dust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6Ibhyx5GY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er6Ibhyx5GY)
I'm really feeling that there needs to be some variety.
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^ I agree. I enjoyed it, but it wasn't anything overly impressive. MoP did have a good amount of variety, so I'm optimistic that these are just two 'single-worthy' releases that NB chose to put out.
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Sounded like Threshold by numbers. I'm hoping jingle is right about choosing 'single-worthy' songs.
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Sounded like Threshold by numbers.
Exactly.
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New album is streaming.
https://bravewords.com/news/threshold-preview-entire-for-the-journey-album-ahead-of-release
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I think I'm liking this one better than March of Progress.
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Nice! Can't wait to listen to it.
Edit: Just gave it my first listen. It's amazing! Not sure yet how it stack up against MoP but it's definitely one of my favorite albums of the year. The Box is a masterpiece :hefdaddy
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I think I'm liking this one better than March of Progress.
Cool, that's a pretty big yardstick to compare to. MoP is my 2nd fave album of theirs.
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I haven't gotten around to it, but it sounds like the two singles were not the strong points of the album. Good assumption or not?
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I listened to the first two songs on the stream, and they really didn't do a lot for me.
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First listen to this band/album now, and holy hell - I'm blown away! It's just what I'm looking for right now :metal
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I keep coming back to Siren Sky. Wonderful song
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Just had a listen. Pretty good, and I'm sure will improve with subsequent listens. Though I'm raging because my stupid iTunes pre-order now says available November 18th!!! WTF?!?!?
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Enjoying the album very much. I did notice one very cool thing (to me at least). The soundbite in track 3, The Box, the spoken word piece about the machine, is from Mario Savio's famous speech during the 60's Free Speech movement at the steps of Sproul Plaza in UC Berkeley. Been there a billion times, even smoked a joint in honor of it when I was in college on the exact spot. :RJ:
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I'm loving pretty much all the songs on the new album, but right now Turned To Dust is my favourite. DAT CHORUS.
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After one listen, I'd say it's a very good album! I'm not sure it's quite as good as March of Progress (which itself isn't as good as Hypothetical) but it's definitely up there with the best.
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I've got the album pre-ordered so I don't feel too guilty about recording the audio stream so I can listen to it in my car.
I've only listened once, but liked what I heard. Way too early to judge it, but I think it will be up there among their best.
Could have sworn I heard some 7-string in a few places, either that or Karl is using an alternate tuning on a 6 string (drop-D maybe?)
Some of the chugging is even more badass than usual :metal
Looking forward to getting the disc. :corn
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Awesome album somewhat darker than MOP and not as instant, but well up there.
Autumn Red and Siren Sky the frontrunners!
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After 1 listen of this album, it sounds good. Nice and dark with some really nice hints of older style Threshold in there in some places.
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Posted my review: https://lunarcaverns.blogspot.com/2014/10/threshold-for-journey-2014-easily-one.html (https://lunarcaverns.blogspot.com/2014/10/threshold-for-journey-2014-easily-one.html)
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I'm only just now getting to have a good listen to For The Journey and I think it's really good. I've been into Threshold since the very beginning and found the Mac albums getting quite samey (although Dead Reckoning broke that a bit) ,but the last two with Wilson have been really good and up there with their best......which includes the great Psychedelicatessen with Glynn Morgan. ;)
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I think I like this new one more than March of Progress.
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I stumbled across some live vids of Threshold with Mac - looked like an official release. They were older songs I didn't know but very good. That bloke could sing. I find DW a bit harder to listen to. Not that he doesn't have a great voice, I just find it a bit camp.
Holy cow. I just did the same thing, stumbled across some Mac-era vids. This is right up my alley, I love his voice and delivery so much. I'm listening to critical mass right now and loving it. It has a fates warning feel to me for some reason. Are all the Mac-era albums this good? I am in awe how much I am loving this. I can't wait to listen to the other albums.
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I stumbled across some live vids of Threshold with Mac - looked like an official release. They were older songs I didn't know but very good. That bloke could sing. I find DW a bit harder to listen to. Not that he doesn't have a great voice, I just find it a bit camp.
Holy cow. I just did the same thing, stumbled across some Mac-era vids. This is right up my alley, I love his voice and delivery so much. I'm listening to critical mass right now and loving it. It has a fates warning feel to me for some reason. Are all the Mac-era albums this good? I am in awe how much I am loving this. I can't wait to listen to the other albums.
In a word... yes.
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I'm still waiting for my copy of the new album, but I would be very surprised if it topped Hypothetical, which is their masterpiece, and it happens to be a Mac album. I would posit that my second favorite Threshold album is also a Mac album, Subsurface. Those albums had their best songwriting.
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I can't stop listening to Critical Mass. I'm hooked. I can't believe I never found this album before. It's right up my alley. I'll try Hypothetical next, because that seems to be the other Mac-era album that people really love.
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Critical Mass was my first Threshold album, and I really liked it at the time, but I wouldn't say it's one of my favourites. Of the Mac-era, Hypothetical and Clone are my favourites, and I really like Subsurface as well. Dead Reckoning I found a bit meh though.
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Dead Reckoning was my first Threshold album, so that one will always be a special one to me. Pilot is simply one of the greatest songs they have ever done.
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Damian looking badass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzMWFyA5A0
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I saw that video yesterday. That song absolutely blows. I haven't pick this up yet, but I'm in no rush to.
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Damian looking badass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzMWFyA5A0
Damian's stylist : John Petrucci
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I saw that video yesterday. That song absolutely blows. I haven't pick this up yet, but I'm in no rush to.
I do like it, but it's probably one of the weakest songs on the album.
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So I have owned Hypothetical for awhile now but just gave it a spin in my car the other day. I liked what I heard, although there was that kind-of-out-of-place ballad in the middle, which was GOOD, but still felt weird among all the other metal songs.
Anyways, I was looking for suggestions about another one or two albums I should visit next? I was thinking about Critical Mass and/or Subsurface based on ratings on progarchives, as well as them being the next albums after the one I have.
-Marc.
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So I have owned Hypothetical for awhile now but just gave it a spin in my car the other day. I liked what I heard, although there was that kind-of-out-of-place ballad in the middle, which was GOOD, but still felt weird among all the other metal songs.
Anyways, I was looking for suggestions about another one or two albums I should visit next? I was thinking about Critical Mass and/or Subsurface based on ratings on progarchives, as well as them being the next albums after the one I have.
-Marc.
You can't go wrong with either of those two. Subsurface is my favorite Mac-era album.
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I'd go Subsurface next as well.
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Although I have every Threshold album since Clone, I never was a massive fan of them.
Maybe I never gave them enough time, or seeing them play an awful live set put me off.
But I really got into them when DW joined for March of Progress, which I enjoyed.
Since then I have gone back to the Mac era and wow I am kicking myself for not doing this before.
There's just something about Mac, his sense of melody, phrasings and general influence that makes Threshold sound different with him (I mean that besides the bleeding obvious).
Listening to Dead Reckoning, I almost have a lump in my throat knowing that he is gone and this was his last Threshold album.
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I love Dead Reckoning. Still sad that Mac is gone so soon.
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Yeah sad he is gone and so young.
I was lucky enough to see them twice live with Mac, ProgPower 1999 in Holland and 2006 in England.
Dead Reckoning is great, Threshold at their peak. So good I just ordered it on double clear vinyl for a bargain $33 inc shipping from UK.
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Not to change the subject, but the new album might be the weakest overall effort from the band. The first three albums at least had bright spots, but the new one is just kind of middling at best.
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Not to change the subject, but the new album might be the weakest overall effort from the band. The first three albums at least had bright spots, but the new one is just kind of middling at best.
I liked it quite a lot, but saying that, I don't go back to it that much.
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Can anyone tell me who writes the lyrics, particularly for the Mac-era albums like Hypothetical and Critical Mass? I've been really sinking my teeth into those two albums the past few months and the lyrics are just outstanding. It doesn't say in the booklets.
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Not to change the subject, but the new album might be the weakest overall effort from the band. The first three albums at least had bright spots, but the new one is just kind of middling at best.
I liked it, but never go back to it so I tend to agree. There are not many stand out moments for me.
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I personally prefer For the Journey than March of Progress. Siren Sky kicks massive ass. Having said that, I still miss Mac. Clone, Hypothethical, Subsurface, Critical mass and Dead Reckoning are great and enjoy them a lot.
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I personally prefer For the Journey than March of Progress.
Me too.
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I like Threshold, but I think their songs and albums sound awfully "same-y". It's like any track could be on any album and it wouldn't matter, they sound so similar anyway. Maybe it's just me, though.
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So I'm continuing to work my way through the Threshold discography. I started late last year with Critical Mass, which I absolutely loved, and then went to Hypothetical, which I recently decided I love even more. I might even put Hypothetical in my 10 favorite albums of all-time. I'm now starting to sink my teeth into Subsurface and I just stumbled across the video for "Pressure." Holy shit! That song is unbelievable! Every new song I discover from the Mac-era is like a precious gift knowing that he isn't with us anymore.
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So I'm continuing to work my way through the Threshold discography. I started late last year with Critical Mass, which I absolutely loved, and then went to Hypothetical, which I recently decided I love even more. I might even put Hypothetical in my 10 favorite albums of all-time. I'm now starting to sink my teeth into Subsurface and I just stumbled across the song "Pressure." Holy shit! That song is unbelievable! Every new song I discover from the Mac-era is like a precious gift knowing that he isn't with us anymore.
:tup
I haven't listened to any Mac-ere Threshold lately, but I do spin Yargos and his Powerworld album every so often. I think I know what I'm listening to tomorrow.
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Can anyone tell me who writes the lyrics, particularly for the Mac-era albums like Hypothetical and Critical Mass? I've been really sinking my teeth into those two albums the past few months and the lyrics are just outstanding. It doesn't say in the booklets.
Good question - I don't have my CDs handy, but I would've assumed that they were in the credits. However, something in the back of my mind tells me that for the most part it was Jon Jeary, Richard West and Karl Groom that did the lyrics. I don't think Mac wrote many of them (if any at all).
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I personally prefer For the Journey than March of Progress.
Me too.
Interesting. For the Journey didn't really do anything for me, but I may need to spin it a few more times. March of Progess however kicked total ass!
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From FB this morning:
There's a double-live-album coming up: »European Journey«, which was recorded at various venues across Europe during November 2014, in support of their current studio album »For The Journey«.
»European Journey« contains 15 live tracks and will be released as a 2-CD digipak, out November, 13th.
Pre-order »European Journey« here: https://nblast.de/Threshold
Richard West comments: "We had a fantastic tour playing so many fan favorites going back to '97 with 'Part Of The Chaos' through 'Mission Profile', 'Pilot In The Sky Of Dreams' to the present day with 'The Box'. We recorded some shows along the way and it's turned into this really powerful double album".
"Threshold continue to enjoy fantastic support from our loyal fans. The band have always enjoyed mixing with the people who listen to our music and this tour was no exception”, adds Karl Groom.
»European Journey« tracklist:
CD1
01. Slipstream
02. The Hours
03. Liberty Complacency Dependency
04. Ground Control
05. Unforgiven
06. Long Way Home
07. Part Of The Chaos
08. Coda
CD2:
01. Watchtower On The Moon
02. Pilot In The Sky Of Dreams
03. Lost In Your Memory
04. Mission Profile
05. The Box
06. Turned To Dust
07. Ashes
Wish it was a DVD, but I'll take it. Day 1 buyer right here.
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I skipped their last album. Was that a mistake?
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I skipped their last album. Was that a mistake?
If you are fan of what they have been doing, then yes, check it out.
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You know what it was? I bought March and thought it was OK. I ended up not listening to it. And I wasn't thrilled with the last couple of Mac albums, so I decided to pull back when Journey came out. I didn't want to buy an album that I would only listen to twice. I think the first song released off of it didn't do it for me.
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I like Journey more than March, but from what you've said, I'll listen first before spending the cash.
Oh, that live cd should be good too.
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I think I will get the Live CD. If the Journey songs impress me, I'll go back and buy the studio album. There, that's my plan.
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I think I will get the Live CD. If the Journey songs impress me, I'll go back and buy the studio album. There, that's my plan.
Not a bad plan. I personally prefer MoP over FtJ... but they're pretty close. Definitely try before you buy.
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Nice! But for Threshold I would prefer a DVD probably. Still, this should be interesting.
On a sidenote, I wish DT did this approach and records several shows on audio over the course of a tour.
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I don't know. I'm a big fan of a live album being a single show.
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Nice! But for Threshold I would prefer a DVD probably. Still, this should be interesting.
On a sidenote, I wish DT did this approach and records several shows on audio over the course of a tour.
Never heard/seen Chaos in Motion?
I don't really care which approach a band takes, so long as the production is good - which is what brings down CiM. Livecrime is stitched together over 2 shows, as are a lot of live albums (along with re-recorded parts for the "mistakes").
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I've bought March of Progress after my roulette for 3$ or so. The album was alright, but I didn't spin it a lot, maybe three times before I shelved it. Still, I think I'll check this live album out.
I don't know. I'm a big fan of a live album being a single show.
This big time. I'm alright with several shows approach, but if it's one single show without rearranging any tracks, it's a big plus for me.
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I don't know. I'm a big fan of a live album being a single show.
For me, it depends on which artist. For a DVD, I obviously prefer one show. Also when there is some kind of narrative (concept album played, for example). But in some cases, I like the whole tour approach for three things; It allows for picking the best performances, there are basically no setlist limitations (making obscure songs more likely, for example), and it gives the feeling of a band on a world tour taking you "along". Not necessarily better, but this concepts has it's perks.
As for why I mentioned DT: I already got quite some single/double DT shows on DVD and vinyl and I think Labrie can be very inconsistent. I guess Happy Holidays already gave me something, though.
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DVD - One show definitely. CD - I don't mind either way.
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Been listening to this a fair bit, really good stuff and a great showcase for Damien Wilson's voice.
Headspace music is generally a lot heavier than Threshold.
https://youtu.be/aZ4dG7gUo-g
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That Headspace album was a cracker.
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Has there been news on when there will be another Headspace album? I thought read that they were working on one.
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They are supposed to be working on one, but it's a slow process, with all the main bands and projects going on. Damian's also in an acoustic Maiden coverband called Maiden United (with Ruud Jolie from Within Temptation), they're touring with Threshold, and lord knows what the other guys are doing on the side. I thought it was an excellent release though, and was glad to see it performed live in its entirety.
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On Damian's Kickstarter page, he says that the new Headspace will be released sometime in 2016.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1519578524/damian-wilson-new-album-2016
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I can't recall what the kicker was that got me to investigate Threshold, but I got into them just after Dead Reckoning came out. That album to me is rock solid. Lots of great stuff throughout. I recall reading a LOT of complaints about the gruff vocals that make an appearance very briefly. People were all "you've lost me as a fan" and all kinds of silliness. (death metal vocals, etc) Those moments in those tunes make the song. Anyway... I nearly immediately went and got the prior album, Subsurface. I enjoyed that a lot as well. I was kind of disappointed they changed singers, but it was a guy who had been in the band before, so I gave it the benefit of the doubt. March of Progress to me was good, but didn't wow me like the other two. I followed the hype for "For the Journey" and was anticipating it's release. Upon hearing it, I felt there were a few songs that were pretty samey to other tunes I already knew from them. (and my investment in them is rather small). As it's been said in this thread, it sounds like Threshold by the numbers. Not bad by any means, just not very exciting. I'd love to see them, but that's not gonna happen!
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Threshold is a band that has followed the same formula for a while, just like Dream Theater and Vanden Plas. I still enjoy them a lot because I know what I'm going to get. The growl vocals on Dead Reckoning were a refresher for me. I wasn't a fan of Damian when he was in Threshold the first time. I loved Mac's vocals but when he left Threshold abruptly (and eventually passed away), Damian took over singing duties again and I like his voice a lot. Not sure why this happened but I"m glad it did.
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Preview of European Journey. Not much of a fan of mixing/matching shows for the video... but it is what it is, and since this isn't a DVD, no biggie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrINbxutmH0&feature=youtu.be
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Who does a live album without a DVD these days, seems a waste. I'll pick this up nevertheless though.
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Threshold is a band that has followed the same formula for a while, just like Dream Theater and Vanden Plas. I still enjoy them a lot because I know what I'm going to get. The growl vocals on Dead Reckoning were a refresher for me. I wasn't a fan of Damian when he was in Threshold the first time. I loved Mac's vocals but when he left Threshold abruptly (and eventually passed away), Damian took over singing duties again and I like his voice a lot. Not sure why this happened but I"m glad it did.
Same thing happened to me. I couldn't stand Damian's voice for a really long time and then all of sudden it clicked and now he's on of my favorite vocalists. So much emotion in his voice and very unique.
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Just stumbled upon a Threshold/Dream Theater reference in the latest issue of Prog magazine. It's a quiz with Karl Groom of Threshold and they ask him: "Which was Dream Theater's first album without founding member Mike Portnoy?" He says, "No idea. We toured with them in 1995 and I didn't find much in their music after their original keyboard player Kevin Moore left."
I always hear such a Dream Theater influence in Threshold's songs, so I'm surprised to hear he doesn't listen to them much.
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I don't known, personally, I'm the opposite. I have never really heard any DT influence in their music at all.
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I don't known, personally, I'm the opposite. I have never really heard any DT influence in their music at all.
:iagree:
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I've been revisiting Critical Mass the past week or so and I gotta say that title track is one of the best songs I've ever heard. The ending especially is just breathtaking. I can't believe no one's posted that song on YouTube. Sometimes I like listening to some music at work, and YouTube is most convenient for me. Anyway, just wanted to say that song is pure magic. One of those songs I never get tired of.
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Out of all the albums, Extinct instinct I can hear the Dream theater influence. All their other albums though, not so much.
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Also a new Threshold album this year, apparently they recorded it last december.
"Threshold are currently recording their 11th album at Thin Ice Studios in England, a new concept album that will be called LEGENDS OF THE SHIRES. It’s being produced by Karl Groom and Richard West and is scheduled to be released in 2017. More information will be revealed soon.
The band has also announced dates for the LEGENDS OF THE SHIRES TOUR 2017 where you’ll be able to fully experience songs from the new album on stage.
Richard West comments: “It’s great to be announcing these tour dates so soon, we can’t wait to get on the road and perform for you. Our new album is coming together perfectly, we’ve got a lot of strong material so it might be our longest one yet.”
Source: official website.
A concept album and they think it may be their longest album yet. Interesting. I hope it is a bit more original than For the Journey, which was good but felt a bit like more of the in my opinion fantastic March of Progress.
Also, I don't really hear that much DT in Threshold music to be honest.
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I really liked Journey. I think I'd take it over March of Progress.
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I've lost track (or interest) in Threshold, TBH.
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LOVE Threshold. Love them. Hypothetical is one of my favorite albums of all time, enough to the point where I learned how to play five of its songs on guitar by ear (since there's hardly any tabs for this band fucking ANYwhere...) Cool to know that they're working on another album!
I wasn't a fan of Damian when he was in Threshold the first time. I loved Mac's vocals but when he left Threshold abruptly (and eventually passed away), Damian took over singing duties again and I like his voice a lot. Not sure why this happened but I"m glad it did.
Same here, nearly word for word. Much prefer the Mac era, and couldn't stand Damian's voice on the early albums. Even preferred Glynn Morgan's voice on Psychedelicatessen. But now that Damian is back in the band, I've grown fond of it. I think maybe it's because the music itself is the perfect blend of the riff driven chunkiness the Mac era displayed and the more prog driven elements of the earlier releases. Regardless, I like the last two releases for sure, as they have their own distinct flavor (though similar between themselves) in the Threshold saga.
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Damian Wilson is out - sounds like he got the boot from the band.
Glyn Morgan is back and , seeing as I'm one of the few about who really rates Psychedelicatessen , I am not too upset at a bit of a change.
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Damn... I'm just the opposite. Wonder if they're re-record the vocals for the upcoming album then? I've got nothing agains't Psychedelicatessen, just wasn't wow'd by it - whereas I love all the albums that they did with Damian.
Time will tell.
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Don't get me wrong.............I really like Damian in Threshold and my first album of theirs was Extinct Instinct way back when on its release. To me he is the voice of the band . I am just interested to hear what Glyn can do as I would've liked another album after Psychedelicatessen . Damian has produced enough material with the band to explore most of what he can do , so I am not averse to something a bit different.
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The boot it is...........
Damian Wilson's statement regarding the departure from Threshold:
Unfortunately this is not a mutual decision, but I respect it. After I had recorded the album and committed to the tour I was informed that Threshold were going to continue on without me. They have every right to make this choice, although it is difficult to part ways with a group of people you’ve shared so many experiences with.
I really enjoyed the past decade recording and touring with Threshold and wish them all the best for the future, with the hope we might work again on projects somewhere down the line.
The label Nuclear Blast are amazing, and with the wonderful support of the fan base the whole journey of being the frontman for Threshold has been fantastic.
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Man, that sucks. I really liked his vocals and Extinct Instinct is my favorite by them. I liked him on the same level as Mac as well. I'm curious what was going own where they didn't want him anymore.
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Wow! I wonder the reasons behind it. Poor Damian haha, he's so dejected. I've actually never heard the first two albums, for some reason I never went back through and checked them out. Threshold for me started with the amazing Extinct Instinct, so Damian was the voice for me too.
Saying that, the last two were pretty similar and it's hard to see them branching off and being able to do something fresh with him IMO. You'd think they would re-record with the new fella. I'd love to see a statement from the band.
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You rang...........
THRESHOLD have parted ways with vocalist Damian Wilson. The band have chosen to start a new chapter without him and he has told them he respects their decision.
Wilson enjoyed three stints with THRESHOLD, performing on the band's most recent records "For The Journey" and "March Of Progress" as well as their early releases "Wounded Land" and "Extinct Instinct" in the 1990's. Damian Wilson has been a great frontman for THRESHOLD and the band would like to sincerely thank him and wish him every success in his future endeavours.
THRESHOLD's new frontman will be Glynn Morgan, the band's former vocalist from 1994 to 1996. Morgan appeared on THRESHOLD's 1994 album "Psychedelicatessen" and returned to work with the band in 2008 to record tracks for the singles box set "Paradox".
Glynn Morgan commented:
"I was over the moon when I got the phone call. To work with Karl and Richard and be a part of the mighty THRESHOLD story once more is a great honour. I can't wait to start recording, the new material has me hooked already."
You can watch Glynn Morgan in action with THRESHOLD in their 1994 video 'Innocent' here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcbTprYFZ6s
Sounds like they will be re-recording the new album. They probably should do a Danger Danger - Cockroach and give fans both versions. Wouldn't bet on it though by the sounds.
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So Karl and Richard just woke up one day, listened to the new recordings and went, 'nah, bugger this fella, this shits boring now, lets get old mate back for a run, spice things up.' :lol
Crazy turn of events really.
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Oh god, not glynn...
Total respect to anyone that likes psychedelicatessen, but that album is not for me. but Who knows, maybe it will be great.
I have to admit I am quite fond of Innocent though :heart Well, I really hope they release both versions of this new album.
Man, I am actually all over the place about this. March of progress was awesome, but for the journey was kind of so so, perhaps this album could be a winner. I am actually very curious to see how this plays out.
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This is crazy. Agree that March of Progress was an amazing album but didn't love For the Journey but that was more because the music was weak not the vocals. As for Glynn I remember thinking that he sounds a lot like Sebastian Bach on psychedelicatessen. Maybe they want a more mainstream voice to make more money? I'm sure Damian will find a gig quickly.
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Damn, feel bad for Damian. I hope Headspace really takes off. Both of their albums are stunning.
I'm actually shocked why Threshold decided to kick Damian out. The tour has been announced and the album is/was almost pretty much done. From a business stand point, it doesn't make sense just kicking Damian out. Also, it's not like Threshold is everybody's full time gig. Richard and Karl do a lot of recording/producing and mixing on the side in their studio. Something is not right here.
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I just don't understand why you would boot a guy after you've recorded an album and planned a tour. Do it before the cycle begins or at the end. Now you're going to put out this album with one voice, go out to tour and support it, and have another voice singing those songs weeks/months later. Just why?
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Wow, I'm in shock. Damian seems like a cool guy. I was always more of a fan of Mac's voice with Threshold's music, so the vocalist change doesn't make me too sad, although I do feel bad for Damian. I love Glynn's voice in the song "Innocent" from back in the day, but that's all I've really heard. I'm curious to see how the band will sound with him now. I'm looking forward to it.
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I just don't understand why you would boot a guy after you've recorded an album and planned a tour. Do it before the cycle begins or at the end. Now you're going to put out this album with one voice, go out to tour and support it, and have another voice singing those songs weeks/months later. Just why?
Sounds like they'll re-record vocals with Glyn.
The Threshold vocalist history is just bizarre. And there doesn't appear to be any actual reason given for booting Damian. "Different direction" doesn't actually mean anything, especially not when you've already recorded everything and are planning to go out on tour.
Maybe Glyn has dirt on Richard and Karl and blackmailed them. :P
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Damn, feel bad for Damian. I hope Headspace really takes off. Both of their albums are stunning.
I'm actually shocked why Threshold decided to kick Damian out. The tour has been announced and the album is/was almost pretty much done. From a business stand point, it doesn't make sense just kicking Damian out. Also, it's not like Threshold is everybody's full time gig. Richard and Karl do a lot of recording/producing and mixing on the side in their studio. Something is not right here.
I thought the first Headspace was amazing but the second album did nothing for me. I'm sure there is more to the story. Maybe he didn't along with other members or something stupid.
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Damian Wilson is out - sounds like he got the boot from the band.
Glyn Morgan is back and , seeing as I'm one of the few about who really rates Psychedelicatessen , I am not too upset at a bit of a change.
While I am actually shocked by this news (completely out of the blue), I'm like you - to me this is a change for the better. I've been a fan of Threshold since around the time that Psychedelicatessen was released (got both albums at the same time) and Glynn's vocals have always been my favorite. I was very disappointed when he left and they brought Damian back for Extinct Instinct. Mac was an improvement, but I've always preferred Glynn's. Plus I think Glynn brought more of a heavy edge to Threshold's sound - IMO none of their albums since have come close to sounding like Psychedelicatessen and I attribute that largely to Glynn's influence.
Damn, feel bad for Damian. I hope Headspace really takes off. Both of their albums are stunning.
I'm actually shocked why Threshold decided to kick Damian out. The tour has been announced and the album is/was almost pretty much done. From a business stand point, it doesn't make sense just kicking Damian out. Also, it's not like Threshold is everybody's full time gig. Richard and Karl do a lot of recording/producing and mixing on the side in their studio. Something is not right here.
Agreed. While I'm thrilled Glynn is back, this dramatic turn of events (haha!) strikes me as very strange, especially given that Damian was fired and didn't leave of his own volition. I too feel bad for the man and wonder what must have happened to have driven Karl and Richard to make this move, especially at this particular moment.
Definitely curious to see what they'll do regarding the new album - go with what they've already got, record Glynn's vocals (like what Quiet Riot is apparently doing on their new album), or maybe even re-record/change parts of the album as Anthrax did for their Worship Music album.
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I think its been about 10 years since I listened to Psychedelicatessen. I think its time to dig it out and re-evaluate. I just remember it being more strait forward heavy metal-ish vs. prog metal which is why I lost interest in it. But I might as well get back in to it, since that's the voice of band again. Which I still can't get over this wacky turn of events. Just wild
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It's crazy - I just was looking at the Wikipedia page on Threshold and didn't realize that Pete Morten left the band last month. Not that he probably would affect the sound as much as the vocalist change, but still it's another line up change and surprise. From what their website says, it doesn't look like they'll bother looking for a new guitarist to replace him probably until tour time in the autumn.
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I think its been about 10 years since I listened to Psychedelicatessen. I think its time to dig it out and re-evaluate. I just remember it being more strait forward heavy metal-ish vs. prog metal which is why I lost interest in it. But I might as well get back in to it, since that's the voice of band again. Which I still can't get over this wacky turn of events. Just wild
Ditto...
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They should change their name to Mess-hold.
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They should change their name to Mess-hold.
I can see why you'd say that Tim, but given that this band is not that big in terms of popularity, it's not the only source of income for them, just as is the same for Spock's Beard and a number of other bands. So if band members bail for one reason or another for another band or something more stable, it's understandable (which has typically been the case with band member changes in Threshold). Only this latest move in booting out Damian seems unexplained and strange.
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Damian must be pissed off. He has changed his name to D. Wilsynyster and his new band is called Avenged Threshold. Yes I just had a few beverages :lol
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Damian must be pissed off. He has changed his name to D. Wilsynyster and his new band is called Avenged Threshold. Yes I just had a few beverages :lol
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After having 24 hours for this to sink in, this turn of events is just absolutely fucking crazy, like what the hell, seriously? The whole thing just doesn't make sense. Would they not have known in the writing process that the direction they were going was different to what they had and wanted with Damian. Nothing adds up here.
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WTF indeed ;D
I dunno mate - I doubt we will ever know what we're not being told. I doubt it's just "creative differences" given where they were at in the album/tour process. Damian has done something to piss someone off somewhere I'm guessing.
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Yeah, something big would have had to go down to scrap a whole album and start fresh. Maybe he wanted to take a 5 year break after this tour? ;D
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Damian's statement makes him sound like he's at a loss as to the reasonings. Surely something more going on. Maybe he's the problem and his statement is him playing the victim making everyone think he's getting a raw deal.
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I was thinking the real reason might be as simple as they prefer glynn's voice to damian's voice. Maybe they felt like damian's voice wasn't the sound they wanted for the band long haul. And after hearing his vocals for the new album, it reinforced those feelings for a different direction.
On a separate note, I'm clicking around YouTube listening to Damian Wilson songs. The "Seek for Adventure" song with Adam Wakeman is absolutely wonderful. What a beautiful tune.
Also, I feel like Damian is wearing the same black t-shirt in every video and picture I see of him. :o
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Also, I feel like Damian is wearing the same black t-shirt in every video and picture I see of him. :o
Maybe the B.O. got a bit much for the Threshold guys.
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Well, that puts a major damper on my anticipation of their next album. What gives? Will they rerecord? I think they want a more rockish voice? I don't know, unlike Mac and Damian I think Glyn has a really generic rock voice, but their material with him is long ago so I don't know how he sounds now.
Well, if this means we will hear more of the other projects Damian is involved with (Headspace, his singer-songwriter material, his collab with Wakeman, Maiden United etc.), I can live with it. But Threshold will need to convince me.
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I was thinking the real reason might be as simple as they prefer glynn's voice to damian's voice. Maybe they felt like damian's voice wasn't the sound they wanted for the band long haul. And after hearing his vocals for the new album, it reinforced those feelings for a different direction.
Maybe the new album lends itself more to Glynn's vocals, but I doubt that it's just that they prefer his vocals to Damian's. I mean they've had Damian in the lineup 3 different times now. Had they not liked his vocals, I doubt they would've asked him back a third time and kept him in the lineup for the last 5 or so years.
Keep in mind that they also met up with Glynn in (I think) 2008 to record vocals for a couple of Psychedelicatessen-era B-sides to include in their singles box set. If they really preferred his vocals, I would imagine they would have asked him back on a full time basis then and not waited until now. Pretty sure it's something else besides the differences in vocal styles.
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Yeah, reading up on this a bit more and god this is such a mess. The whole album was recorded and the tour was already planned, and people even already bought tickets for it. Something must have been wrong because the timing could almost not be any worse than this. I feel bad for Damian as well, since this will undoubtly leave a major sudden gap in his schedule and income. I don't know what happened behind the scenes so I can't judge, but I do know Damian is a very passionate, down to earth guy that has an incredible connection with his fans.
The thing is, I think Damian has such a unique voice which is what made the albums with him stand out amongst the similar prog rock/metal acts. I see people are saying they will rerecord the vocals, is this confimed? I mean, it would make sense but I'd really love to hear another Damian album. Journey has slowly grown on me the past couple of months and I liked the recent live album.
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Yeah, reading up on this a bit more and god this is such a mess. The whole album was recorded and the tour was already planned, and people even already bought tickets for it. Something must have been wrong because the timing could almost not be any worse than this. I feel bad for Damian as well, since this will undoubtly leave a major sudden gap in his schedule and income. I don't know what happened behind the scenes so I can't judge, but I do know Damian is a very passionate, down to earth guy that has an incredible connection with his fans.
The thing is, I think Damian has such a unique voice which is what made the albums with him stand out amongst the similar prog rock/metal acts. I see people are saying they will rerecord the vocals, is this confimed? I mean, it would make sense but I'd really love to hear another Damian album. Journey has slowly grown on me the past couple of months and I liked the recent live album.
I would be surprised if there wasn't some sort of severance payment. They seem to run it like a business where the vocalist is hired, and in this stint he's been with them for the best part of 10 years so I can't imagine they'd just ditch him without compensation.
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Yeah, reading up on this a bit more and god this is such a mess. The whole album was recorded and the tour was already planned, and people even already bought tickets for it. Something must have been wrong because the timing could almost not be any worse than this. I feel bad for Damian as well, since this will undoubtly leave a major sudden gap in his schedule and income. I don't know what happened behind the scenes so I can't judge, but I do know Damian is a very passionate, down to earth guy that has an incredible connection with his fans.
The thing is, I think Damian has such a unique voice which is what made the albums with him stand out amongst the similar prog rock/metal acts. I see people are saying they will rerecord the vocals, is this confimed? I mean, it would make sense but I'd really love to hear another Damian album. Journey has slowly grown on me the past couple of months and I liked the recent live album.
I would be surprised if there wasn't some sort of severance payment. They seem to run it like a business where the vocalist is hired, and in this stint he's been with them for the best part of 10 years so I can't imagine they'd just ditch him without compensation.
Ah, yeah, that would make sense. I don't really know that much about how artists handle their business.
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I'm not too familiar with Threshold's early history, but does anyone know why Damian and the band parted ways the first two times?
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I'm not too familiar with Threshold's early history, but does anyone know why Damian and the band parted ways the first two times?
I'm not completely sure, but I think the first time he left, it was because he was involved with other bands or wanted to be involved in other things. Second time around, I haven't a clue. But I'm pretty sure that in both cases, it was him who made the decision to leave - I don't believe he was fired either time.
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I was thinking the real reason might be as simple as they prefer glynn's voice to damian's voice. Maybe they felt like damian's voice wasn't the sound they wanted for the band long haul. And after hearing his vocals for the new album, it reinforced those feelings for a different direction.
Maybe the new album lends itself more to Glynn's vocals, but I doubt that it's just that they prefer his vocals to Damian's. I mean they've had Damian in the lineup 3 different times now. Had they not liked his vocals, I doubt they would've asked him back a third time and kept him in the lineup for the last 5 or so years.
Keep in mind that they also met up with Glynn in (I think) 2008 to record vocals for a couple of Psychedelicatessen-era B-sides to include in their singles box set. If they really preferred his vocals, I would imagine they would have asked him back on a full time basis then and not waited until now. Pretty sure it's something else besides the differences in vocal styles.
Wow, really? They recorded stuff with Glynn in the late 2000's, that is awesome. Which songs?
I think Half way home is one, which is damn fine. If the new album sounds like that, then I am down
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I was thinking the real reason might be as simple as they prefer glynn's voice to damian's voice. Maybe they felt like damian's voice wasn't the sound they wanted for the band long haul. And after hearing his vocals for the new album, it reinforced those feelings for a different direction.
Maybe the new album lends itself more to Glynn's vocals, but I doubt that it's just that they prefer his vocals to Damian's. I mean they've had Damian in the lineup 3 different times now. Had they not liked his vocals, I doubt they would've asked him back a third time and kept him in the lineup for the last 5 or so years.
Keep in mind that they also met up with Glynn in (I think) 2008 to record vocals for a couple of Psychedelicatessen-era B-sides to include in their singles box set. If they really preferred his vocals, I would imagine they would have asked him back on a full time basis then and not waited until now. Pretty sure it's something else besides the differences in vocal styles.
Wow, really? They recorded stuff with Glynn in the late 2000's, that is awesome. Which songs?
I think Half way home is one, which is damn fine. If the new album sounds like that, then I am down
Just Fist of Tongues and Half Way Home, which were explicitly for the singles box set. Apparently they didn't have anything else (worthwhile?) from that era to use as B-sides.
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Oh ok. Cool
I just checked out both of those songs. I dig them
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Maybe the new album lends itself more to Glynn's vocals, but I doubt that it's just that they prefer his vocals to Damian's. I mean they've had Damian in the lineup 3 different times now. Had they not liked his vocals, I doubt they would've asked him back a third time and kept him in the lineup for the last 5 or so years.
Keep in mind that they also met up with Glynn in (I think) 2008 to record vocals for a couple of Psychedelicatessen-era B-sides to include in their singles box set. If they really preferred his vocals, I would imagine they would have asked him back on a full time basis then and not waited until now. Pretty sure it's something else besides the differences in vocal styles.
Good points! That makes sense. I think you're right.
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I think mac is my favorite of the 3, with Damien being extremely close behind. Extinct instinct is my favorite album of theirs and Innocent might be my favorite song. Go figure
This band has so much to offer.
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Random thought here, but it's always bothered me that the song "Critical Mass" isn't on YouTube. That's gotta be one of my top 10 favorite songs of all-time.
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Random thought here, but it's always bothered me that the song "Critical Mass" isn't on YouTube. That's gotta be one of my top 10 favorite songs of all-time.
I'll take your word on that, but that is strange.
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New song released
https://teamrock.com/news/2017-07-14/watch-thresholds-epic-lost-in-translation-video
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Came here to post the link. I like it. Singer is very good. I was never a huge fan of Damien.
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It is okay. I think the new singer has a good rock voice (but nothing unique), based on older material, but I am not fond of his more melodic/clean singing, which is what this song is focusing on. I am hoping the new album will contain some good rockers like with the Mac era, because I feel that will work well with this guy.
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I like it. Singer is very good. I was never a huge fan of Damien.
Always liked Glynn the most of the 3 vocalists, so I'm glad he's getting a second chance. I too was never that excited by Damian, so I welcome the change. The song is good, altho nothing groundbreaking. Typical Threshold overall, if longer than normal. Actually, I would've thought it might have a little harder edge to it, judging by the Psychedelicatessen album - will be curious is this track is representative of the album or not.
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Came here to post the link. I like it. Singer is very good. I was never a huge fan of Damien.
Fix'd for me.
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The song was kind of a chore to get through.
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Came here to post the link. I like it. Singer is very good. I was never a huge fan of Damien.
Fix'd for me.
I'd take Damien over Robert Plant... 😀🖕
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I'd take Damien over Robert Plant... 😀🖕
:lol
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The song was kind of a chore to get through.
My thoughts exactly. Don't make a 10 min song if its just going to meander around. At the 5 min mark I was checking the time. At the 7 min mark I was ready to turn it off. A very Meh song with a decent intro.
Besides that, Glynn sound like glynn. Which is fine I guess. I will definitely check out the rest of the album though.
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That song was typical Threshold but didn't really hold my interest. I'm more confused too, can so hear Damian singing this. It's written for him.
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Came here to post the link. I like it. Singer is very good. I was never a huge fan of Damien.
Fix'd for me.
I'd take Damien over Robert Plant... 😀🖕
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That song was typical Threshold but didn't really hold my interest. I'm more confused too, can so hear Damian singing this. It's written for him.
Yeah, the vocal melodies scream DW to me. I think they even already recorded it with Damian prior to the split. Initially upon the news of the break I thought it was because the band felt a rock type of voice fit their future artistic direction better (pure speculation from me, offcourse), but this doesn't align with that thought at all.
Upon listening to it one more time, I am not sure if this guy has the full range of emotions to captivate me for a double disc concept album to be honest. Glad for those who love this song/voice though.
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That song was typical Threshold but didn't really hold my interest. I'm more confused too, can so hear Damian singing this. It's written for him.
Yeah, the vocal melodies scream DW to me. I think they even already recorded it with Damian prior to the split. Initially upon the news of the break I thought it was because the band felt a rock type of voice fit their future artistic direction better (pure speculation from me, offcourse), but this doesn't align with that thought at all.
Upon listening to it one more time, I am not sure if this guy has the full range of emotions to captivate me for a double disc concept album to be honest. Glad for those who love this song/voice though.
All of this.
I like Glynns voice and everything, but it always felt a little limited to me. I also don't know if he can pull off this double concept album. And I totally heard Damian singing in my imagination the whole time.
I wish I could pay extra for like a bonus disk with Damian on it.
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Just found out by complete accident that Damian Wilson is out. Around the Critical Mass album I was quite a big fan of them and of Mac, then over the years I've lost interest.
It's weird however that out of all the possible choices, they go back to a previous singer... seems something that happens more than once in their history!
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Basically, I really do like all 3 singers, just as long as there's strong songwriting behind them.
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A very Meh song with a decent intro.
That decent intro happens to back the chorus as well. The bloated instrumental mid-section brings the song down a bit, but the rest is pretty good.
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That song was typical Threshold but didn't really hold my interest. I'm more confused too, can so hear Damian singing this. It's written for him.
Yeah, the vocal melodies scream DW to me. I think they even already recorded it with Damian prior to the split. Initially upon the news of the break I thought it was because the band felt a rock type of voice fit their future artistic direction better (pure speculation from me, offcourse), but this doesn't align with that thought at all.
Upon listening to it one more time, I am not sure if this guy has the full range of emotions to captivate me for a double disc concept album to be honest. Glad for those who love this song/voice though.
Nailed it. This will be the first non-automatic Threshold buy for me since I got into them. I'll sample first, then decide.
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Randomly checked out this thread. I'm not a Threshold fan so I don't know anything about various singers and whatnot. But I checked out the new song and really thought it was great. I made a note to myself to check out the album when it comes out.
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That song was meh for me. I didn't love their last album and this doesn't get my hopes up.
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another new song...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NCuOe4zJk&feature=youtu.be
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Melodic and catchy.
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Meh. It felt kind of strait forward.
Video was a little weird.
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Love the new song! Love the video for it! And I LOVE Glenn's voice. Nothing against Damian, but this is the voice I need in Threshold. I'm pumped! :metal
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Yeah killer song, got me really hyped for the new album, the first song was okay, but this one is a lot better :metal
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I like it, definitely suits his voice well overall, unlike that previous song. I remain by my first impression that the singer has a bit of a generic rock voice, but sometimes that is just want to hear, since I like straightforward rock as well.
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Love the new song! Love the video for it! And I LOVE Glenn's voice. Nothing against Damian, but this is the voice I need in Threshold. I'm pumped! :metal
I really like it too - but I grew up with Psychedelicatessen as my main Threshold album and liked the more heavy approach. So along with Damian he is THE voice of Threshold for me.
Not to be pedantic but it's Glynn ;)
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Great song and terrific video!
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Love the new song! Love the video for it! And I LOVE Glenn's voice. Nothing against Damian, but this is the voice I need in Threshold. I'm pumped! :metal
I really like it too - but I grew up with Psychedelicatessen as my main Threshold album and liked the more heavy approach. So along with Damian he is THE voice of Threshold for me.
Not to be pedantic but it's Glynn ;)
I really liked that. I don't listen to them often but they are always quality. Looking forward to this one. I like this singer better than DW.
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Lost in Translation sounded like it was clearly written with Damian's voice in mind. This still has a clear Threshold sound, but sounds much more suited to Glynn's voice. Very much looking forward to this.
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This song was definitely better.
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That song was much better than the first, but it just sounds like Damian should be singing this.
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That song was much better than the first, but it just sounds like Damian should be singing this.
I didn't think about it before you mentioned this, but imagining Mac's singing over this song sounds amazing in my mind. Shame we will never hear his voice again...
As far as Damian goes, I'm actually glad to have Glynn back in the band. Damian does have a great singing voice, don't get me wrong, but his timbre has never spoken to me. Plus, with the character of his voice, the music takes on a totally different character. I'm not a huge fan of the first two Damian albums, and the last two are great, but it's more on the improved strength of the songwriting than anything else. Glynn and Mac's voice allow the band to write more in the riff-driven vein, and that's the Threshold I love. Psychedelicastessen was a big step up from Wounded Land for me, and I'm looking forward to hearing what they're doing with this album. It'll be interesting to hear a likely mix of styles, given the switch in vocals mid-production...
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A few reviews released so far:
https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2017/08/28/threshold-legends-of-the-shires/ (https://theprogressiveaspect.net/blog/2017/08/28/threshold-legends-of-the-shires/)
https://metalwani.com/2017/08/review-threshold-legends-of-the-shires.html (https://metalwani.com/2017/08/review-threshold-legends-of-the-shires.html)
https://heavymag.com.au/album-review-threshold-legends-shires/ (https://heavymag.com.au/album-review-threshold-legends-shires/)
Very promising, can't wait for the release next week!
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Not sure why, but I always felt with Damien's singing, that he was patronising me.
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Not sure why, but I always felt with Damien's singing, that he was patronising me.
I'm pretty sure that if you look up "irony" in the dictionary, it says "Spelling patronizing with an S" :lol
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New song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMbnECa3CJ4
Something a little different which is a pleasant surprise, not bad at all.
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Isn't the album out today?
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Isn't the album out today?
No idea mate.
EDIT: Yeah mate, you're right.
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Isn't the album out today?
Yeah, it just released.
After my first listen, its not really doing anything for me. oh well
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Read a couple of reviews and they sound positive.
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It's on Spotify. Very good on first listen but too much to take in on one listen.
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I have to listen to it. I just started my Threshold adventure with Wounded Land yesterday and I must that I was stunned! Great, almost perfect vocals out there by Damian, perfect voice. Threshold isn't so popular in Poland, I know few people who knows the name Threshold but though, never listened them. Psychedelicatessen tomorrow then :metal
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Bought this yesterday based on liking "Lost in Translation" and "Small Dark Lines". Excellent album, very glad I picked it up. So many great songs, need to listen more before I know which are the strongest. So far though I don't think I felt any songs were weak. Hard to make it through the album because I just keep wanting to play every song over again because I'm enjoying them so much.
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I do love that lush keyboard sound that the album features a lot.
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Is the new album better than for the journey?
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Just finished my first spin. In response to Kaos... yes. Pleasantly surprised by how much I liked Glynn's sound here. Musically, it's distinctively Threshold. Production sounds absolutely fabulous.
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Just finished my first spin. In response to Kaos... yes. Pleasantly surprised by how much I liked Glynn's sound here. Musically, it's distinctively Threshold. Production sounds absolutely fabulous.
Yeah, this. I've listened twice now. Really like it. Glynn does a great job and he's new to me.
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Cool, I was VERY disappointed in For the Journey after the amazing March of Progress. I'll pick this up.
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Cool, I was VERY disappointed in For the Journey after the amazing March of Progress. I'll pick this up.
FTJ had it's ups and downs. There's a couple of gems in there, but yeah... overall it was a letdown.
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I gave thorough listen today to the new album. Its solid, but its an album that I'm only going to break out it out every once and awhile versus the other albums which I can break out anytime, listen to a few tracks and go about my day.
But the one thing I will say, is I really feel like Glenn's voice was the right fit for the music of this album. As much as I love Damien, I think this was the right choice.
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Still waiting for my pre-order to arrive! I noticed that the CoverKiller Nation dude gave the album a 29/30, with a chance to jump to 30/30 with repeated listens, he said. I'm itching to listen, but will wait until my discs arrive.
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Put in a bunch of solid listens over the last two days and I LOVE this album. Only one weak track. This is easily my album of the year so far.
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I've only heard a few tracks so far, but Small Dark Lines is among my favourite songs of the year.
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Spin #2 today. Fantastic. Some repeated melodies and techniques from past albums, but overall this is excellent. Jumping to the top-tier of my AOTY rankings for sure.
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Where are you guys ranking it amongst the band's past albums? Up there with the best? Middle of the pack? Too early to tell?
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Where are you guys ranking it amongst the band's past albums? Up there with the best? Middle of the pack? Too early to tell?
This. But I have a suspicion it will be up near the top.
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I've only heard a few tracks so far, but Small Dark Lines is among my favourite songs of the year.
This.
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Where are you guys ranking it amongst the band's past albums? Up there with the best? Middle of the pack? Too early to tell?
Its definitely up there. It may rise higher with repeated listens
Ranking in Tiers:
Tier 1: Hypothetical, Subsurface, March of progress, Extinct instinct
Tier 2: Legends of the shire, Critical mass
Tier 2.5: Dead reckoning
Tier 3: Wounded land, Psychadelicatesseen, For the journey, clone
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Listened to it and I like it. Great production, vocals are on point, and there is plenty of variety. My problem with For the Journey was that it felt more of the same and a tad uninspired (though it did grow on me significantly since release), this one immediately feels inspired and grabs my attention.
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Where are you guys ranking it amongst the band's past albums? Up there with the best? Middle of the pack? Too early to tell?
Its definitely up there. It may rise higher with repeated listens
Ranking in Tiers:
Tier 1: Hypothetical, Subsurface, March of progress, Extinct instinct
Tier 2: Legends of the shire, Critical mass
Tier 2.5: Dead reckoning
Tier 3: Wounded land, Psychadelicatesseen, For the journey, clone
Hard to argue with any of that.
Listened to it and I like it. Great production, vocals are on point, and there is plenty of variety. My problem with For the Journey was that it felt more of the same and a tad uninspired (though it did grow on me significantly since release), this one immediately feels inspired and grabs my attention.
Hard to argue with any of that.
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For Me
Tier 1: Hypothetical, March of progress, Legends of the Shire, Dead Reckoning
Tier 2: Clone, Critical mass, Subsurface
Tier 3: Wounded land, Psychadelicatesseen, Extinct instinct
Tier 4: For the Journey
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My Threshold journey reached Clone today... and as I loved Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen and Extinct Instinct from the first time, I totally hated Clone.... I hardly listened to it in it's entirety. Vocals are very weak, I hope McDermott performances are better on upcoming albums because if it's not it will be hard to listen to it for me.. Songs are not bad, but something is missing and I just don't feel that vibe they had with three first albums.
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My Threshold journey reached Clone today... and as I loved Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen and Extinct Instinct from the first time, I totally hated Clone.... I hardly listened to it in it's entirety. Vocals are very weak, I hope McDermott performances are better on upcoming albums because if it's not it will be hard to listen to it for me.. Songs are not bad, but something is missing and I just don't feel that vibe they had with three first albums.
Clone is only Mac era album that I could never get in to. The rest are pretty great. I can't wait to see what you think of Hypothetical. Its got some kick ass tracks
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I finished listen through Hypothetical just now and I must say I'm very satysfied. Mac vocal is not so annoying as on Clone, he sounds sometimes here like Hansi from Blind Guardian. I also heard some Yes influences here and there ;) sum it up, very good solid record. My favourites - Long Way Home, Oceanbound and Light And Space. Critical Mass is next. :metal
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If we are putting albums into tiers, upon first thoughts, here's mine:
Tier 1 - Hypothetical
Tier 2 - Subsurface, March of Progress, Legends of the Shire
Tier 3 - Critical Mass, Dead Reckoning, For the Journey
Tier 4 - Clone, Psychedelicatessen
Tier 5 - Wounded Land, Extinct Instinct
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I only got into Threshold with March of Progress. I checked them out because I loved Damian Wilson's voice in his work with Aryeon. I'm disappointed that he's no longer in Threshold, but have ordered Legends of the Shire and am looking forward to it based on what I've heard so far. I plan to plunge into the Threshold back catalog too, and have also ordered Critical Mass.
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I only got into Threshold with March of Progress. I checked them out because I loved Damian Wilson's voice in his work with Aryeon. I'm disappointed that he's no longer in Threshold, but have ordered Legends of the Shire and am looking forward to it based on what I've heard so far. I plan to plunge into the Threshold back catalog too, and have also ordered Critical Mass.
From what I've heard from Threshold for now (Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen, Extinct Instinct, Clone, Hypothetical) I prefer Glenn's vocal or Damian's over Mat's. Damian and Gleen have tremendous vocals. Mat's vocal is more generic for me, but it doesn't mean bad. I'm happy that Glenn returned to put vocals on Legends Of Shrine, can't wait to hear it!
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I only got into Threshold with March of Progress. I checked them out because I loved Damian Wilson's voice in his work with Aryeon. I'm disappointed that he's no longer in Threshold, but have ordered Legends of the Shire and am looking forward to it based on what I've heard so far. I plan to plunge into the Threshold back catalog too, and have also ordered Critical Mass.
From what I've heard from Threshold for now (Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen, Extinct Instinct, Clone, Hypothetical) I prefer Glenn's vocal or Damian's over Mat's. Damian and Gleen have tremendous vocals. Mat's vocal is more generic for me, but it doesn't mean bad. I'm happy that Glenn returned to put vocals on Legends Of Shrine, can't wait to hear it!
I think the reason I didn't get into Threshold sooner is because when I sampled stuff from The Mac-era I found them to be a bit generic, as you said. I'm going to see how I like Critical Mass before delving into the rest of the back catalogue.
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I only got into Threshold with March of Progress. I checked them out because I loved Damian Wilson's voice in his work with Aryeon. I'm disappointed that he's no longer in Threshold, but have ordered Legends of the Shire and am looking forward to it based on what I've heard so far. I plan to plunge into the Threshold back catalog too, and have also ordered Critical Mass.
From what I've heard from Threshold for now (Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen, Extinct Instinct, Clone, Hypothetical) I prefer Glenn's vocal or Damian's over Mat's. Damian and Gleen have tremendous vocals. Mat's vocal is more generic for me, but it doesn't mean bad. I'm happy that Glenn returned to put vocals on Legends Of Shrine, can't wait to hear it!
I think the reason I didn't get into Threshold sooner is because when I sampled stuff from The Mac-era I found them to be a bit generic, as you said. I'm going to see how I like Critical Mass before delving into the rest of the back catalogue.
You should try Hypothetical also, great album. But don't try Clone if You are already awared of Mat's vocals ;D
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I only got into Threshold with March of Progress. I checked them out because I loved Damian Wilson's voice in his work with Aryeon. I'm disappointed that he's no longer in Threshold, but have ordered Legends of the Shire and am looking forward to it based on what I've heard so far. I plan to plunge into the Threshold back catalog too, and have also ordered Critical Mass.
From what I've heard from Threshold for now (Wounded Land, Psychodelicatessen, Extinct Instinct, Clone, Hypothetical) I prefer Glenn's vocal or Damian's over Mat's. Damian and Gleen have tremendous vocals. Mat's vocal is more generic for me, but it doesn't mean bad. I'm happy that Glenn returned to put vocals on Legends Of Shrine, can't wait to hear it!
I think the reason I didn't get into Threshold sooner is because when I sampled stuff from The Mac-era I found them to be a bit generic, as you said. I'm going to see how I like Critical Mass before delving into the rest of the back catalogue.
You should try Hypothetical also, great album. But don't try Clone if You are already awared of Mat's vocals ;D
Thanks. After reading through this thread I've concluded that Hypothetical is the album I should have started with. Will probably be my next purchase.
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Hypothetical is the album that hooked me and was also my first.
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New album has been growing on me A LOT. Might become might favorite album this year.
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I've yet to receive my pre-order from the record label. Ridiculous!
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I think that Swallowed is crazy beautiful. Anyone know what its about?
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I too love that song but have no idea what it's about. Honestly I don't really know what most of the album is about other than the high level growing older and changing topic.
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I'm on a Threshold binge right now. I've heard the three most recent albums already but I decided to check out their older stuff - like Critical Mass and Hypothetical. I like what I'm hearing :metal
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Zydar try Wounded Land and Psychodelicatesen, very very good albums, practicaly zero bad tracks. And Glenns's voice on Psychodelicatessen is very impressive :metal
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So, I went through Critical Mass and Subsurface in past two days. The first one was awesome, but Subsurface didn't clicked for me. Only Mission Profile and Ground Control are the songs that I remember. And what happened with the guitar souns on that one? At least Mat is giving very solid vocal performance. I'm looking forward to next albums. For now, it was a very pleasant journey. My ranking from what I've heard:
1. Psychodelicatessen
2. Wounded Land
3. Extinct Instinct
4. Hypothetical
5. Critical Mass
6. Subsurface
7. Clone
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So, I went through Critical Mass and Subsurface in past two days. The first one was awesome, but Subsurface didn't clicked for me. Only Mission Profile and Ground Control are the songs that I remember. And what happened with the guitar souns on that one? At least Mat is giving very solid vocal performance. I'm looking forward to next albums. For now, it was a very pleasant journey. My ranking from what I've heard:
1. Psychodelicatessen
2. Wounded Land
3. Extinct Instinct
4. Hypothetical
5. Critical Mass
6. Subsurface
7. Clone
Yay - someone else on the planet has Psychedelicatessen as their fave. Made my DTF Top 50. I grew up with that album and thought of them back then as rather unusual , in that they had the prog label but not much in the way of flashy playing. Didn't actually seem capable of playing flashy but were good writers.
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Looks like Karl Groom has shed some light on Damian's departure...
Link: https://www.progradar.org/index.php/2017/09/28/interview-with-karl-groom-of-threshold-by-progradar/
Q: Glynn Morgan has returned and replaced Damian Wilson on vocals, any particular reason why?
Karl: I can tell you what happened, we never wanted to make a statement because we’re not in the business of trying to put Damian down or anything, he’s a really valued member of the band and he did a fantastically good job. However, in October, after we’d played Prog Power Europe I was giving him a lift home to Oxford and he said to me “what sort of singer do you think would replace me?”, I didn’t really pay much attention and he gave me a few names and we left it at that and I said good night.
A couple of weeks later he turned up when I was working on something in the studio and said that he’d decided to leave the band and it was then that I realised that I’d missed that, I’d missed him telling me that he was leaving the band completely! He gave me names of these people that he thought might replace him and I never want to be in the position of chasing people to be in the band. As I’ve said, I feel privileged to be able to play music to the people who want to listen to it and I wouldn’t want to put him in a position where we’re chasing him.
Threshold is something that’s special to me and if he’d come to the point where he felt he’d got other things to do or you don’t want to be in the band then that’s great, he’s done a brilliant job and we’ll move on. When I spoke to Richard later, I said to him that Damian had decided he was moving on and I don’t really want to take on one of these people he’s suggested, what do you think if we ask Glynn again?
I know he wanted to rejoin the last time Damian had come back. He’d found out afterwards that Mac had left and he was interested but it was too late then. In 2008/2009 we did some work with him on our ‘Paradox’ singles boxset on a couple of the tracks and it was great. I’d always loved Glynn’s voice and the three singers we’ve had are the singers I’ve wanted so if Damian leaves and, unfortunately, Mac is no longer available, it would be brilliant if Glynn came back.
Richard had been in contact with him not long before that and when we spoke to him he was over the moon and, as he said in his statement, he really wanted to get involved again. I thought that his enthusiasm was something you just can’t turn down. As the story goes, Damian changed his mind a few weeks later and wanted to come back to the band. I never really got a satisfactory answer as to why he wanted to leave or come back, he rang Richard this time and said he wanted to come back.
He actually did come back to start recording the new album but he didn’t finish it and we didn’t have any dates from him to come back. We did a show in Switzerland and the atmosphere in the band was just different, we knew he’d wanted to go and then he sort of came back but didn’t want to do certain dates that we’d tried to book to finish the album, he wasn’t available for those. It just seemed like we were in competition with something else and I said to Richard we would have to find someone who wanted to do what the four of us wanted to do, the rest of the band.
We want to do things, we don’t want to be inactive, we’re not that young that we can be sitting around for years doing nothing. We told Damian we’d have to move on and I don’t know if he wanted to leave or not or whether he didn’t like the idea of looking bad on social media. I’m not sure whether he really wanted to come back or not, I don’t know what it was but it wasn’t really a good fit once he’d decided he wanted to leave and we just thought that, even though we don’t want to fall out with Damian we need to move on.
He still wants to meet up and chat again, we’re not on bad terms. I don’t know if he was expecting it or not but we said, in the light of what had happened, we’re going to move on and we’re going to find someone who wants to be in the band all the time and it worked out, it fits Glynn perfectly, with the extra power he has, on this new album and it works well.
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Nice to finally hear what happened, and hear that there is (apparently) no ill-will on either side. Very professionally said by Karl.
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Quite interesting read, thank You for the link! Seems like a complicated story down here... Well, I like more Gleen's voice than Damian to be honest so I'm happy with Gleen signing on a new record. My least favourite Threshold voice is Mac, but I think that he also did a great job. I don't like his voice on Clone, but after that it was only better and better ;)
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That explanation was great, but lacked some quality marriage analogies.
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Damian is one of my favorite vocalists but I just find him maddening. He doesn't seem to have the attention span to front a band. Just look at his Threshold history. I know he is still in Headspace but they seem to move at a glacial pace.
Mac's voice was never for me. I tried a few of his albums and his vocals just took me out of it. I have never heard Glynn's. I've been sort of avoiding checking out the new album because I was so pissed that Damian was gone again. This update makes me feel a little better, but not much.
I may check out some samples now. These guys write great songs so what can it hurt.
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From a little while back, but here's Damnien's side:
https://teamrock.com/news/2017-03-29/damian-wilson-talks-unexpected-threshold-departure
Former Threshold vocalist Damian Wilson has spoken to exclusively to Prog about his sudden and “unexpected” departure from the band.
Wilson’s former colleagues released a statement earlier this week saying they wanted to “start a new chapter without him” and had brought back frontman Glynn Morgan.
Wilson then issued his own statement saying the move had not been a “mutual decision.”
Now he’s spoken exclusively with Prog about the situation and shed some light on what’s been going on in the background recently.
Wilson says: “This was really unexpected. The only contact I've had with Threshold these last few months has been via email – despite my request for a meeting on hearing their intention to proceed without me.
“I don't believe there has been a situation as such, but my wish to be involved as an equal in the band has caused some friction over the last decade.
“They don't seem to think a change of vocalist is a problem. I think Threshold see the band as Richard West and Karl Groom – I saw it as a band.”
He adds that it would have “been better for everyone” if Threshold had made their decision prior to announcing a European tour – which they did just a week before parting ways with Wilson.
But Wilson adds: “Saying that, I'm excited to hear Glynn Morgan sing the album. He will sound great – Richard will make sure of that. He has a gravel I don't have in my voice.”
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But Wilson adds: “Saying that, I'm excited to hear Glynn Morgan sing the album. He will sound great – Richard will make sure of that. He has a gravel I don't have in my voice.”
And this is exactly why I much prefer Mac's and Glynn's voices over Damian's. Threshold's music just has that crunch that needs a little grit in the singer's tone, and Damian just didn't fit with it much to me at all.
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That interview with Karl was a good read. Very happy to hear how much he likes Subsurface, because that one is possibly my favorite Threshold album, with Hypothetical sometimes vying for that spot. I think Subsurface is a bit of a grower, but when it does... :)
I find it a bit distressing to read comments putting Mac last on the list of vocalists. I shouldn't - we all have different opinions - and yet, I do, just a little. :) I will say that I'd be curious if anyone's opinion changes with time. When I first started getting into Threshold, I wasn't blown away by any of the singers but really just liked their songs. I came to appreciate all 3, but Mac really stood out over time, even though he doesn't have the biggest range or anything like that. For me, I really find his vocals to have the most emotional delivery, but I only felt that way after I'd be listening to Threshold for a while.
Now onto another change with Legends of the Shires. I've only listened to it twice, and feel like I'm still going to have to listen more to decide how much I like it. I think Glynn sounds good overall, though there's a song or two that I think would clearly have been better with Damian. Maybe I'll feel that less as I listen more.
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For fans that are familiar with all of the albums, could you come up with your best of Threshold. I was going to buy the Threshold singles cd on iTunes, but would rather pick and choose to come up with a best of based on fans of the band.
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For fans that are familiar with all of the albums, could you come up with your best of Threshold. I was going to buy the Threshold singles cd on iTunes, but would rather pick and choose to come up with a best of based on fans of the band.
For me, Hypothetical and march of progress are basically best of's in their own right, since they are such solid albums. That's a good intro into the band, that won't break the bank and at the same time will give you a taste of both Damian and Mac. Damien sings on march of progress and Mac sings on Hypothetical.
And if you want a fantastic Glenn album, then I suggest the new album (legends of the shires)
I tried thinking of a best of, but the list got too long.
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I'd agree with that, those are probably my favourite two.
Then the new one and Subsurface a little below that.
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For fans that are familiar with all of the albums, could you come up with your best of Threshold. I was going to buy the Threshold singles cd on iTunes, but would rather pick and choose to come up with a best of based on fans of the band.
For me, Hypothetical and march of progress are basically best of's in their own right, since they are such solid albums. That's a good intro into the band, that won't break the bank and at the same time will give you a taste of both Damian and Mac. Damien sings on march of progress and Mac sings on Hypothetical.
And if you want a fantastic Glenn album, then I suggest the new album (legends of the shires)
I tried thinking of a best of, but the list got too long.
This is good advice.
But, it's Glynn... not Glenn.
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For fans that are familiar with all of the albums, could you come up with your best of Threshold. I was going to buy the Threshold singles cd on iTunes, but would rather pick and choose to come up with a best of based on fans of the band.
This is really hard for me because I think Threshold are *great* song writers. It's difficult just pick just a few tracks.
I'll do 2 tracks from each album based on my mood right now; and I'll put a "single" from the album too. An asterisk for long songs in case you aren't in the mood to check out a 10+ minute track. :)
Wounded Land:
Paradox
Surface to Air*
Sanity's End*
Psychedelicatessen:
Innocent
Into the Light*
Devoted
Extinct Instinct:
Clear
Somatography
Part of the Chaos
Clone:
Freaks
Life's Too Good
Voyager II
Hypothetical:
Light and Space
The Ravages of Time*
Oceanbound
Critical Mass:
Phenomenon
Echoes of Life
Critical Mass*
Subsurface:
Opium
Pressure
The Destruction of Words
Dead Reckoning:
This is Your Life
Fighting for Breath
Safe to Fly
March of Progress:
Staring at the Sun
Don't Look Down
Liberty, Complacency, Dependency
For the Journey:
Watchtower on the Moon
Autumn Red
The Box*
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I've always found Threshold to be a bit "same-y", all their records seem to have this common "feel" to it. But anyway, I just started listening to this new one on Friday, and while I still think it's very similar to their other albums, this one has some stunning melodies! Really great stuff, I can't stop listening!
Favourites so far include Small Dark Lines, The man who saw through time, and Stars and Satellites.
I didn't expect this, for sure. Thumbs up Threshold!
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For fans that are familiar with all of the albums, could you come up with your best of Threshold. I was going to buy the Threshold singles cd on iTunes, but would rather pick and choose to come up with a best of based on fans of the band.
As others have mentioned, this is somewhat difficult to do since they have so much great material that the list will be long, but if I had my choices (top 2-4 from each album), they would be:
Wounded Land - Paradox, Sanity’s End
Psychedeicastessen - Sunseeker, Innocent
Extinct Instinct - Clear, Life Flow (live acoustic version from Critical Energy)
Clone - Freaks, Angels, Goodbye Mother Earth
Hypothetical - Light and Space, Oceanbound, Long Way Home, Sheltering Sky
Critical Mass - Phenomenon, Echoes of Life, Falling Away
Subsurface - Mission Profile, The Art of Reason, Pressure
Dead Reckoning - Slipstream, Pilot in the Sky of Dreams, Fighting for Breath
March of Progress - Ashes, The Hours, Rubicon
For the Journey - Watchtower on the Moon, Turned to Dust, Autumn Red
Legends of the Shires - Small Dark Lines, Stars and Satellites, Trust the Process
For starters. ;)
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Wow, my choices would be so different to those suggested already. This is exactly why it's better to listen to whole albums rather than individual song recommendations - everyone has such different tastes.
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Wow, my choices would be so different to those suggested already. This is exactly why it's better to listen to whole albums rather than individual song recommendations - everyone has such different tastes.
Yeah, that's what I do if I want to get into some new bands, of course it takes a lot of time, but - it's worth of it ;) and my choices would also be different from those mentioned... Try to listen to whole albums, pick a three of them, every one with other vocalist -Damien, Glynn and Mat, it's the another way to get into Threshold.
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Damian is one of my favorite vocalists but I just find him maddening. He doesn't seem to have the attention span to front a band. Just look at his Threshold history. I know he is still in Headspace but they seem to move at a glacial pace.
Mac's voice was never for me. I tried a few of his albums and his vocals just took me out of it. I have never heard Glynn's. I've been sort of avoiding checking out the new album because I was so pissed that Damian was gone again. This update makes me feel a little better, but not much.
I may check out some samples now. These guys write great songs so what can it hurt.
So I ended my embargo on the Glynn material and picked up both Psychedelicatessen and Legends Of The Shires. Glynn is a fantastic singer and I wish they had gone back to him after Damian's second departure instead of Mac.
Both albums are excellent. Right now, I am leaning a little more towards Psychedelicatessen for it's heaviness. I have just been in a heavy mood the last year or so. Either way, both were great pickups.
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Wow, Threshold is headlining ROSFest in Pennsylvania in May 2018. And it's the Saturday date. I might have to head over to attend my first ROSFest. Can't miss Threshold!
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Speaking of live Threshold, here goes the First concert with Glynn (since a long time ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wovTVW7n60
Sounds good to me. I may attempt to see that gettysburg show
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Wow, Threshold is headlining ROSFest in Pennsylvania in May 2018. And it's the Saturday date. I might have to head over to attend my first ROSFest. Can't miss Threshold!
I'm with you. Thinking about going just for Threshold
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Wow, Threshold is headlining ROSFest in Pennsylvania in May 2018. And it's the Saturday date. I might have to head over to attend my first ROSFest. Can't miss Threshold!
I'm with you. Thinking about going just for Threshold
Me too. It was a great time last year, and Hreshold would make it all worthwhile.
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Does any one know if ROSFest sells single-day tickets? Their website is saying sales start in February, but it doesn't saying anything about single days.
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Speaking of live Threshold, here goes the First concert with Glynn (since a long time ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wovTVW7n60
Sounds good to me. I may attempt to see that gettysburg show
Thanks for sharing - but what happened to Glynn playing guitar, now that Pete is gone and they never replaced him? They seem to be lacking without that second guitar.
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Speaking of live Threshold, here goes the First concert with Glynn (since a long time ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wovTVW7n60
Sounds good to me. I may attempt to see that gettysburg show
Thanks for sharing - but what happened to Glynn playing guitar, now that Pete is gone and they never replaced him? They seem to be lacking without that second guitar.
I agree. And I was actually pretty surprised he only played guitar here and there through out the set. I thought he was going to be the full 2nd guitarist. :-\
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I saw Threshold at Rosfest and didn't really mind so much that there was only one guitar player for most of the songs. I guess it would probably be better if they did just get a full time touring guitarist, but I didn't really care during the show. They put on a killer show and Glynn Morgan sounded terrific. I think Damian Wilson is a fantastic singer and he did a really good job with the Mac songs, but they just didn't sound quite right with his voice. Glynn is a better fit for those songs. And of course he sounded just right for the Legends of the Shires and Psychedelicatessen material.
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I saw Threshold at Rosfest and didn't really mind so much that there was only one guitar player for most of the songs. I guess it would probably be better if they did just get a full time touring guitarist, but I didn't really care during the show. They put on a killer show and Glynn Morgan sounded terrific. I think Damian Wilson is a fantastic singer and he did a really good job with the Mac songs, but they just didn't sound quite right with his voice. Glynn is a better fit for those songs. And of course he sounded just right for the Legends of the Shires and Psychedelicatessen material.
I was at RoSfest as well and can certainly say I was really impressed with Glynn. I was really looking forward to them and loved the show in general, but the way he handled all the material was phenomenal.
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Can anyone tell me who writes the lyrics, particularly for the Mac-era albums like Hypothetical and Critical Mass? I've been really sinking my teeth into those two albums the past few months and the lyrics are just outstanding. It doesn't say in the booklets.
Was just going through the older posts in this thread. If you're still interested, Richard West and Jon Jeary wrote the lyrics for those two albums, and Mac had lyrics on a bonus track.
Critical Mass:
Richard: Phenomenon, Falling Away, Echoes of Life, Avalon
Jon: Choices, Fragmentation, Round and Round, and Critical Mass; also the bonus track New Beginning
Do Unto Them: Mac
Hypothetical:
Richard: Light and Space, Sheltering Sky, Oceanbound, Long Way Home, and Keep My Head
Jon: Turn On, Tune In, The Ravages of Time, Narcissus
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I saw some vids of Threshold at that fest and Glynn sounded amazing particularly on the Mac songs like Slipstream. I really hope they tour the USA someday... I feel like I'll never get to see them live.
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
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I've been revisiting Critical Mass the past week or so and I gotta say that title track is one of the best songs I've ever heard. The ending especially is just breathtaking. I can't believe no one's posted that song on YouTube. Sometimes I like listening to some music at work, and YouTube is most convenient for me. Anyway, just wanted to say that song is pure magic. One of those songs I never get tired of.
Also, *this*. Glad someone else feels this way about this song.
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
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I saw Threshold at Rosfest and didn't really mind so much that there was only one guitar player for most of the songs. I guess it would probably be better if they did just get a full time touring guitarist, but I didn't really care during the show. They put on a killer show and Glynn Morgan sounded terrific. I think Damian Wilson is a fantastic singer and he did a really good job with the Mac songs, but they just didn't sound quite right with his voice. Glynn is a better fit for those songs. And of course he sounded just right for the Legends of the Shires and Psychedelicatessen material.
I was at RoSfest as well and can certainly say I was really impressed with Glynn. I was really looking forward to them and loved the show in general, but the way he handled all the material was phenomenal.
Yes, yes it was. I did think Glynn had his hands full on Innocent playing guitar and singing that song at the same time, but he did a great job. He brought some of the high notes down at the end, but it sounded good and I imagine it's hard to sing that one the same way he did in 1994.
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
I was hoping it would be this way. I bet, their new one is great, but I don't know it so well yet. Also, maybe it's better for a festival if they play their classics, because 1. they dont have so much time like at their own concerts (and Legend is super long) and 2. people wanna hear Mission Profile and Light & Space goddamnit
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
I was hoping it would be this way. I bet, their new one is great, but I don't know it so well yet. Also, maybe it's better for a festival if they play their classics, because 1. they dont have so much time like at their own concerts (and Legend is super long) and 2. people wanna hear Mission Profile and Light & Space goddamnit
:rollin The people, or you? :) In all seriousness, I kinda agree with that. They're not the headliners, so they might not have a long enough slot. Logistically, it might not even be possible. Otherwise, for most festivals with all kinds of different metal, I'd say they should do a mixed set. But for a prog festival - if they had the time, maybe as headliners, it wouldn't be out of line for them to do their first double album in it's entirety. If they had a 2 hour slot they could still play Light and Space and Mission Profile too. (Both are favorites of mine too).
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
I was hoping it would be this way. I bet, their new one is great, but I don't know it so well yet. Also, maybe it's better for a festival if they play their classics, because 1. they dont have so much time like at their own concerts (and Legend is super long) and 2. people wanna hear Mission Profile and Light & Space goddamnit
:rollin The people, or you? :) In all seriousness, I kinda agree with that. They're not the headliners, so they might not have a long enough slot. Logistically, it might not even be possible. Otherwise, for most festivals with all kinds of different metal, I'd say they should do a mixed set. But for a prog festival - if they had the time, maybe as headliners, it wouldn't be out of line for them to do their first double album in it's entirety. If they had a 2 hour slot they could still play Light and Space and Mission Profile too. (Both are favorites of mine too).
In fact, Neal Morse and Spock's Beard did just that 2 years ago (2 years already? wow).
But yeah you got me. I would like a cool mix of their best songs better :biggrin:
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Nick, are you the guy on the right, or Seth Rogen? :)
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Nick, are you the guy on the right, or Seth Rogen? :)
Although I've never really seen it before, Seth Rogen, apparently.
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And Nick does not have his laugh as well. :lol
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I totally see it in that pic, but I'm a huge Seth Rogen fan so that's also a compliment :metal
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
I was hoping it would be this way. I bet, their new one is great, but I don't know it so well yet. Also, maybe it's better for a festival if they play their classics, because 1. they dont have so much time like at their own concerts (and Legend is super long) and 2. people wanna hear Mission Profile and Light & Space goddamnit
:rollin The people, or you? :) In all seriousness, I kinda agree with that. They're not the headliners, so they might not have a long enough slot. Logistically, it might not even be possible. Otherwise, for most festivals with all kinds of different metal, I'd say they should do a mixed set. But for a prog festival - if they had the time, maybe as headliners, it wouldn't be out of line for them to do their first double album in it's entirety. If they had a 2 hour slot they could still play Light and Space and Mission Profile too. (Both are favorites of mine too).
In fact, Neal Morse and Spock's Beard did just that 2 years ago (2 years already? wow).
But yeah you got me. I would like a cool mix of their best songs better :biggrin:
Hehehe. Since I get to see them live almost never, I was very happy with the set they played. Both the obvious ones, and songs like Hollow and Pressure, which I think may get overlooked but are *incredible*. Looking at their setlists however, I think they could probably stand to mix it up a bit more than they do. If I got to see them on each tour I'd be wanting them to bring out some more songs.
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
Must have been Mason then, because I will take my stance on The Astonishing to the grave. :lol
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
Must have been Mason then, because I will take my stance on The Astonishing to the grave. :lol
Which is completely (and oddly... for you) 100% correct.
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
Dammit. I was there too! I wish I knew you were there!
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Sounds like you missed out on making a bunch of new friends, Lethean :biggrin:
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
Dammit. I was there too! I wish I knew you were there!
Are you in the picture with Nick?
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Pretty sure I saw you both there, and heard at least one of you being totally wrong about The Astonishing... :)
Dammit. I was there too! I wish I knew you were there!
Are you in the picture with Nick?
Nah, Dr. DTVT is the other DTF member in that picture.
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Are the 3 of you Rosfest "regulars?"
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Are the 3 of you Rosfest "regulars?"
Although twice it was only for a day, I've been to RoSfest 6 times since 2010.
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Are the 3 of you Rosfest "regulars?"
I've gone the last 4 years with my wife.
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Ah OK. I had been once before - I found out about it while looking up Riverside tour dates and thought the lineup was very cool. I went for the whole thing, but when I got there, I heard a lot of complaints about the lineup and it seemed to be an anomaly. I remember one person talking about how Shadow Gallery was a "local band" and maybe that's why all these new people showed up for that day. It was odd, but the guy I sat next to told me that a lot of the bands were much heavier than usual. This time I just went for Saturday, and knew more about what to expect so I wasn't thrown like I had been the first time.
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Do you guys know if they'll play the whole new album at the Night Of The Prog? Or will they play other songs as well?
I don't know 100%, but I think they'll do other songs and are saving the whole album for their own tour.
I was hoping it would be this way. I bet, their new one is great, but I don't know it so well yet. Also, maybe it's better for a festival if they play their classics, because 1. they dont have so much time like at their own concerts (and Legend is super long) and 2. people wanna hear Mission Profile and Light & Space goddamnit
:rollin The people, or you? :) In all seriousness, I kinda agree with that. They're not the headliners, so they might not have a long enough slot. Logistically, it might not even be possible. Otherwise, for most festivals with all kinds of different metal, I'd say they should do a mixed set. But for a prog festival - if they had the time, maybe as headliners, it wouldn't be out of line for them to do their first double album in it's entirety. If they had a 2 hour slot they could still play Light and Space and Mission Profile too. (Both are favorites of mine too).
In fact, Neal Morse and Spock's Beard did just that 2 years ago (2 years already? wow).
But yeah you got me. I would like a cool mix of their best songs better :biggrin:
Hey Fritzinger, almost time for Night of the Prog. Any chance you could put a GoPro on your head and live stream Threshold's set? Just a little favor... :)
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Okay, I can see that perhaps my request was slightly unreasonable. How about a nice review for me though? Did they play the songs that the people wanted to hear? :)
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So I've slowly been going through the Threshold discography (thanks, Spotify!) since some people here are superfans of them, and I'm going to ProgPower this year with a friend who's recently become a very big fan of them. I have one record left to hear - For The Journey, which I hope to get to tonight - but I wanted to rank them as I view them at this moment.
1. Dead Reckoning
2. Legends of the Shires
3. March of Progress
4. Subsurface
5. Psychedelicatessen
8. Clone/Hypothetical/Critical Mass
9. Wounded Land/Extinct Instinct
So that's probably blasphemous to a lot of Threshold fans but that's how I honestly feel. I hesitate to call any of these albums 'bad' but Wounded Land and Extinct Instinct are just hard to get through for me. Damian's voice isn't fun to listen to. The songwriting isn't bad, but I honestly feel like almost all of their albums are too long. Cut a few songs, or shorten each song by a minute or two... There used to be a time I could enjoy a full hour or more of metal on every album but sometimes you gotta know when to stop; I've been appreciating 30-something and 40-something minute albums in recent years that just get to the point, so an hour of material is something I'm sensitive to.
Clone/Hypothetical/Critical Mass - I get the feeling these are the ones you have to love to consider yourself a Threshold fan which makes me wonder if I can even call myself a fan. I find the songwriting on these albums lifeless, sterile... There's a lack of compelling vocal melodies, not enough energy, a lot of the songs blend together and sound the same to me. I wanted to like these, I really did, but I'm just surprised at how flat they fell. I would have to call these boring. Not bad, just boring, and not something I would listen to again. These albums represent one of my biggest disappointments with the band in that I don't find many of their lyrics to be interesting.
Psychdelicatessen - I like this one a lot. Glynn's voice is great and there's a distinctly metallic edge to the production here which I enjoy. It's got some of that energy that I missed on the above albums, oddly. Young band hit gold? This was one of my favorites at first but can't compete with the later albums.
Subsurface - An improvement on the Clone/Hypothetical/CM formula, to me, but it's a grower. The first time I heard it, I didn't remember a single vocal melody until What About Me - and it turns out that's a bonus track. That has the most fitting vocal melody and delivery on the album, I think, and it's a shame it's relegated to bonus track status. Better songwriting though, better playing, although again, I wish they would've trimmed some of the fat.
March of Progress - hell yes. Modern metal record, typically guitar-driven Threshold, but it's just done so well. Damian's voice is way better on this album than his early two. I really like this album.
Legends of the Shires - awesome record if, again... too long! But the songwriting is fantastic and everyone's on fire, especially Glynn, who sounds wonderful. Huge choruses, great riffs, uptempo enough to keep the energy going. And the 'softer' stuff is as good as the heavier ones (looking at you, Stars and Satellites).
Dead Reckoning - Incredible from start to finish, the perfect balance and definitive of what Threshold is to me. Lyrically it's great, the production is great, Mac's performance and the vocal melodies are superb, it's got it all.
So yeah... I think I can call myself a fan of this band. :biggrin: Although maybe not a big fan, or only really a fan of their modern output, but I enjoy at the very least 5 of their albums, three of them I enjoy a lot. I predict For The Journey will rank high, given the trend.
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Not a completely off-the-wall rating. Dead Reckoning at the top is a bit odd, but it's an excellent album. I personally love MoP, so it being top-3 isn't surprising to me. I'm a big Damian fanboi, so I rate Extinct Instinct fairly well.
IMO, they haven't really had a 'bad' album, so ranking them is a matter of what's best, and what's least best.
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I wouldn't say they have a bad one either. But man, I really want to like C/H/CM but there's just nothing clicking with those. To use a crass phrase I guess it's like the band 'found their balls' with Dead Reckoning and apparently have kept that fire burning since. DR is just tops to me. Pilot... is their best song and Slipstream is close. I would have to go Mac > Glynn > Damian as far as favorite singers.
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IMO, they haven't really had a 'bad' album, so ranking them is a matter of what's best, and what's least best.
Truer words have never been spoken. :)
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Not a completely off-the-wall rating. Dead Reckoning at the top is a bit odd, but it's an excellent album. I personally love MoP, so it being top-3 isn't surprising to me. I'm a big Damian fanboi, so I rate Extinct Instinct fairly well.
I love Extinct Instinct. It took a while for me to come to like Damian's voice on it - it was my first exposure to him and I needed some time to get used to his voice and get used to them with him, since I heard the first 3 Mac albums first. But eventually I did get used to his voice, then started to appreciate it, then really enjoy it.
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Firewings - listen to Sanity's End, Surface to Air, and Paradox from Wounded Land just once each to refresh yourself, then for the love of god please go listen to Livedelica.
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Firewings - listen to Sanity's End, Surface to Air, and Paradox from Wounded Land just once each to refresh yourself, then for the love of god please go listen to Livedelica.
Haha. Maybe. I'm not keen on live stuff except from bands I'm REALLY into although the live bonus tracks on I think Subsurface were pretty good. I'm itching to hear a new band now :)
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Firewings - listen to Sanity's End, Surface to Air, and Paradox from Wounded Land just once each to refresh yourself, then for the love of god please go listen to Livedelica.
Haha. Maybe. I'm not keen on live stuff except from bands I'm REALLY into although the live bonus tracks on I think Subsurface were pretty good. I'm itching to hear a new band now :)
It's short - 41 minutes - so you should like that part, and since you like Glynn's voice, I think you'd enjoy him live. Now, I have to get some work done before even thinking about results, so stop distracting me with Threshold posts.
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Okay, after hearing For The Journey... I'm not sure where exactly I would put it but I didn't enjoy it. That was a disappointment and I don't think I'll go back to it. Oh well. At least I made the journey through the catalog. I'm going to buy the albums I liked :)
See, something I don't like that they do on every album is have the metal guitar tone but they spend far too much time playing in that slower or midtempo speed and it drags everything down. When the songs are usually 6-8 minutes too it just seems to go on forever. Damian's singing was a little odd on that one, too, which was a big factor in why I didn't enjoy it much. I need that driving tempo, just pushing it a little bit faster. Most of the albums sound very similar in that regard so any tracks that speed it up stand out to me. (I read reviews on progarchives and metal-archives for every album and I find it fascinating that almost nobody has this problem with the music. It makes me think I'm being nitpicky but I'm really not, it's simply a quality of the songwriting I don't like)
This band is confusing to me in more ways than one. So much here I should like and yet I don't. Then again I think it's pretty clear, I need those elements that made me love Queensryche's early material so much, or the aggression of Fates Warning. Threshold strikes me much more as a 'rock' band so I think therein lies some of my problems with the sound. Of course like any band I'm glad I took the time to hear all the albums and I wouldn't have done that if I didn't think it was worth my time.
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It may not (or may) be you being nitpicky, but you know what I think the main reason is. For what it's worth, For the Journey would be lower in my ranking, but, see jingle's comment.
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It may not (or may) be you being nitpicky, but you know what I think the main reason is. For what it's worth, For the Journey would be lower in my ranking, but, see jingle's comment.
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It may not (or may) be you being nitpicky, but you know what I think the main reason is. For what it's worth, For the Journey would be lower in my ranking, but, see jingle's comment.
In all honesty I'm a little tired of the 'you haven't given it enough listens' argument (from anyone, on most subjects, not just Threshold, so it's nothing personal). Like, I feel I am experienced enough to actually know what I don't like more than what I do like, because there's a lot of stuff I do like that I don't know I enjoy until I hear it. If that makes sense. But I know what I don't like, and I know what it is when I hear it... Lethean, I predict at least one fierce debate about Threshold at PP, depending on how willing you are to get pissed off at me :lol
For what it's worth, before I heard FTJ in full, I heard the bonus track first (Spotify kept playing after MoP finished), I think it was called I Wish I Could or something, and it was really nice.
EDIT: Edited so as to not ruffle feathers, since I've been thinking all day whether or not I actually am a Threshold fan given the problems I have with their music. For all the stuff I do truly love there seems to be even more that I don't much care about.
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Disagree all you want, but I still think that. :P
As for whether you're a "fan" or not, does it really matter? You're a fan of the stuff you like.
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Bah. :P
I suppose it doesn't matter, you're right. That's just something that tossed around in my head while I was reflecting on the albums. There aren't many bands I like who make me feel so polarized on their discography. This is worse than Helloween, and that's REALLY all over the place :lol
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Firewings, do you think Lost is as beautiful and awesome as I do?
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Firewings, do you think Lost is as beautiful and awesome as I do?
As much as you? Oh, probably not. :lol But it's great. And it's only a few minutes long, it gets right to the point. It's a lovely song. The production + Glynn's voice really sound great.
I didn't know until recently it was a bonus track. Spotify doesn't note which tracks were originally bonus tracks, so it just has the definitive edition of Psych with 13 tracks and 5 live ones.
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Firewings, do you think Lost is as beautiful and awesome as I do?
As much as you? Oh, probably not. :lol
:lol You totally do!
But it's great. And it's only a few minutes long, it gets right to the point. It's a lovely song. The production + Glynn's voice really sound great.
Don't know if I have anything to say about the production, but agree with the rest. :) Still remember the first time I heard it. :)
I didn't know until recently it was a bonus track. Spotify doesn't note which tracks were originally bonus tracks, so it just has the definitive edition of Psych with 13 tracks and 5 live ones.
My Psychedelicatessen is the Inside Out version, which is 11 tracks (the bonus 2 being Lost and Intervention) + the Livedelica. But I got the last 2 tracks on a totally cool compilation.
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Sometime after PP when I can afford to buy CDs again I'm going to try to pick up Psych and the other ones I really like, ideally all with the bonus material. :)
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I say you buy it before PP and bring it with you so I can look it over... :) I know I've mentioned either here or on the mp forum that I mostly buy digital and don't need cds collecting dust, but I feel like I want those definitive versions even if I already have all the tracks... :)
How do you like the last two bonus tracks, by the way?
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Sometime after PP when I can afford to buy CDs again I'm going to try to pick up Psych and the other ones I really like, ideally all with the bonus material. :)
I hope you've saved up for PP. I think I walked away with 20 or so albums from the merchant tables when I went.
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I say you buy it before PP and bring it with you so I can look it over... :) I know I've mentioned either here or on the mp forum that I mostly buy digital and don't need cds collecting dust, but I feel like I want those definitive versions even if I already have all the tracks... :)
How do you like the last two bonus tracks, by the way?
I plan on leaving Atlanta with a ton of CDs, so I'm saving all my spending money for the vendor room and record stores. Maybe get an Angra and PP shirt, too.
I have 3 other bonus tracks on Psych on Spotify. Intervention, Fist of Tongues, Half Way Home. Intervention is okay, but a bit too long. Fist of Tongues is my jam, a nice faster track. Half Way Home is inoffensive, doesn't really do much for me but it isn't bad. Lost and FoT are definitely my favorites of the 4.
@chad: I haven't been able to save up much (living alone is expensive, and I'm losing $100 next month for my car registration - boooo), but that's why I plan on raiding the record stores for even cheaper albums. Even the big record store in my nearby city has fuck all in terms of metal and prog so I'm psyched to see what Atlanta has sitting around waiting to be bought. (Plus you fuckers majorly increased my backlog with the roulette. With any luck I'll find some Leprous to buy :) )
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I say you buy it before PP and bring it with you so I can look it over... :) I know I've mentioned either here or on the mp forum that I mostly buy digital and don't need cds collecting dust, but I feel like I want those definitive versions even if I already have all the tracks... :)
How do you like the last two bonus tracks, by the way?
I plan on leaving Atlanta with a ton of CDs, so I'm saving all my spending money for the vendor room and record stores. Maybe get an Angra and PP shirt, too.
I have 3 other bonus tracks on Psych on Spotify. Intervention, Fist of Tongues, Half Way Home. Intervention is okay, but a bit too long. Fist of Tongues is my jam, a nice faster track. Half Way Home is inoffensive, doesn't really do much for me but it isn't bad. Lost and FoT are definitely my favorites of the 4.
Shockingly, I love all 4 bonus tracks. Can you rank the songs on Psychedelicatessen? I'm guessing that my favorite tracks will probably be your least favorites, as you will think they are too long. :P But I'm curious about your ranking; ties are fine. :)
Yeah, you definitely need an Angra shirt and a PP shirt. :)
@chad: I haven't been able to save up much (living alone is expensive, and I'm losing $100 next month for my car registration - boooo), but that's why I plan on raiding the record stores for even cheaper albums. Even the big record store in my nearby city has fuck all in terms of metal and prog so I'm psyched to see what Atlanta has sitting around waiting to be bought. (Plus you fuckers majorly increased my backlog with the roulette. With any luck I'll find some Leprous to buy :) )
Some years I've purchased quite a bit from the vendor room, but lately I haven't been. I certainly did find some Leprous after being blown away by them, and they are indeed a band for which I want the physical cds.
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Although I've listened to Psych several times I'm not sure I could rank the songs just yet. I could tell you my favorites, though - Sunseeker, Will To Give, Under the Sun, Into the Light, Lost and Fist of Tongues (if counting bonuses). The first half is stronger than the second imo. The rest of the songs all kind of sound too similar for me to rank. (EDIT: Tension of Souls would be up there but, as usual, it's too long - the second half is awesome, the first half kinda bores me)
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Glad to see that Into the Light is up there. :) I'd looooove them to pull that one out now that Glynn is back in the band. I would have a hard time ranking the tracks too, but I think Into the Light would take the top spot. I love the beginning of A Tension of Souls; I think it sets up the song really nicely. FYI, Fist of Tongues and Halfway Home were recorded in 2008 or 2009.
Maybe I should ask for a Dead Reckoning ranking instead though...
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Would that be with Damian or Mac on vocals? That's interesting. DR is the one album I can do a 100% ranking for certain, give me a few minutes...
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Would that be with Damian or Mac on vocals? That's interesting. DR is the one album I can do a 100% ranking for certain, give me a few minutes...
No - with Glynn on vocals on the version that you've been listening to. :) He went in to record those 2 songs for a compilation that they put together in 2009. :)
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Oh, that's even better! Good guy, Glynn :)
1. Pilot in the Sky of Dreams (the best Threshold song)
2. Slipstream (the second best Threshold song)
3. This Is Your Life
4. Fighting For Breath
5. One Degree Down
6. Safe to Fly
7. Disappear
8. Elusive
9. Hollow
1-5 are all freaking awesome. 6-9 could all switch places with each other honestly, they're all good songs but the top 5 are that much better, and they sound a bit similar to each other, so that's where they fall.
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I was curious if you seemed to have a song writer preference, but between this and Psychedelicatessen, there's really no pattern. (Not for me either).
Hollow would definitely be way higher on my list, as well as Safe to Fly, but I'm not sure I have a definitive order. I can agree with #1 though (but would call it "one of the" best Threshold songs).
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I wish they had more songs like Pilot. I'm still disappointed that there's nothing else quite like it in their catalog. None of their longer tracks sound like it or have the elements I enjoy in it (although Sanity's End does have the tastiest lead synth sound from all their albums, in my opinion).
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Maybe that's part of what makes it so special. But for me, their longer track often tend to be my favorites, and I like how most of them are quite different from each other.
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Just adding that Pilot is without a doubt the best Threshold song. Very few bands will I make a statement about a single song and say it clearly separates itself from an otherwise large and good catalog, but that song does it.
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"Pilot" does nothing for me.
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"Pilot" does nothing for me.
Are you feeling OK?
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I've made a point to say how little Threshold's lyrics generally resonate with me, because Pilot's lyrics are insanely good to me. I love the story it tells, I love the theme, how poetic the choice of words tends to be ("in heavy consternation" is not a line I would normally think is good, but it sounds so natural and elegant as a way to start the song, for example). Coupled with the great balance of keyboards and guitars with this really 'cool' atmosphere it creates... Specifically the vocal melody in the verse over the simple guitar chords. Just a real masterpiece. I'm sad for T-ski that it does nothing for him :(
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"Pilot" does nothing for me.
I wouldn't say it does nothing, but I don't fellate all over it the way many others do.
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my first taste of Threshold was Hypothetical.
"Light and Space" hooked me big time. I also think "Narcissus" is one of their best songs ever.
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my first taste of Threshold was Hypothetical.
"Light and Space" hooked me big time. I also think "Narcissus" and one of their best songs ever.
Hypothetical for me too, and both of those songs are incredible, and among my favorites.
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Firewings, I'm surprised how much you like those lyrics, but I'm glad you do.
For me, the lyrics are a piece of the whole Threshold puzzle and those I don't relate to, I'm usually at least intrigued by. I bet you totally relate to Sanity's End, which might explain some of your opinions... :P
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Firewings, I'm surprised how much you like those lyrics, but I'm glad you do.
For me, the lyrics are a piece of the whole Threshold puzzle and those I don't relate to, I'm usually at least intrigued by. I bet you totally relate to Sanity's End, which might explain some of your opinions... :P
I'm going through their albums right now trying to figure out who wrote the music and lyrics. I've been wondering (since I finished Clone, Hypothetical, and CM) if there's a single songwriter and I'm just not clicking with their lyrics. So far I've noticed a lot of songs tend to just meander and I don't think they have anything interesting to say, particularly in the 90s material. The lack of powerful melodies (to me) plays a massive part in that though, if a melody doesn't sound strong to me the lyrics are harder to swallow. Still looking, though. Songs like This Is Your Life and Fighting For Breath and Slipstream do exactly what I like, so do several songs on Shires like Small Dark Lines and Stars and Satellites.
EDIT: Wow, Mac didn't write anything? I could have sworn I learned he was a big part of the songwriting... It's all Groom, West, and Jeary (until Jeary left). Yeah, I guess I'm just not big on the way those guys write lyrics.
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I don't think there's a pattern to the music song writing based on your rankings. Are there lyrics you dislike on your top 5 albums?
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Well, there aren't actually any lyrics I dislike, to be fair. It's more that there are just a crapton of lyrics that I just don't care about, that don't resonate with me whatsoever. I hesitate to use the word 'boring' so as not to offend fans as I'm sure there is no shortage of lyrics I enjoy that click with me that I'm sure some people would also scoff at, so I get it, but that about sums it up to me. Outright 'bad' lyrics to me are things like 'day after day, night after night, replaying the events, did they ever see the red light' but there's nothing in Threshold's catalog that hits me like that. There seem to be lyrical themes to the band that just don't do anything for me, so that could be why.
Whew. That was longwinded. So, to answer the question, assuming by 'don't like' it means 'lyrics that just sound like filler to me' - oh yeah, definitely. As much as I love DR, the bottom 4 songs in my ranking leave me cold.
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Mac wrote Do Unto Them, which is a great song. :) He did write with other bands, but I think his work with Threshold is the best. I believe he made the songs different than they would have been without him, regardless of writing credits, if that makes any sense.
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Well, there aren't actually any lyrics I dislike, to be fair. It's more that there are just a crapton of lyrics that I just don't care about, that don't resonate with me whatsoever. I hesitate to use the word 'boring' so as not to offend fans as I'm sure there is no shortage of lyrics I enjoy that click with me that I'm sure some people would also scoff at, so I get it, but that about sums it up to me. Outright 'bad' lyrics to me are things like 'day after day, night after night, replaying the events, did they ever see the red light' but there's nothing in Threshold's catalog that hits me like that. There seem to be lyrical themes to the band that just don't do anything for me, so that could be why.
Whew. That was longwinded. So, to answer the question, assuming by 'don't like' it means 'lyrics that just sound like filler to me' - oh yeah, definitely. As much as I love DR, the bottom 4 songs in my ranking leave me cold.
In that case there's no pattern, since Richard wrote all of the lyrics on Dead Reckoning. :) Maybe at some point others will resonate as the melodies grow, or a line catches your ear in a new way.
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That ship is quickly leaving the harbor because I found a prog metal album this morning that's blowing me away and you may get it in the last round of the roulette :metardica:
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I'm not talking about something like that happening right now. :P
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Oh then yeah it's highly likely it'll never happen. You know that Vulture Industries song I sent you? Had that album on my hard drive for 11 years. Never went back to it until the roulette, and I still haven't played it. :rollin
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Yeah, but you'll be listening to Threshold again, even if it's just your top 5, and those lyrics may catch you.
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Yeah, but you'll be listening to Threshold again, even if it's just your top 5, and those lyrics may catch you.
Oh lord. Don't let anyone ever say you aren't persistent... :lol :biggrin:
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Indeed I am. I wonder if Fritzinger knows that I'm going to persist in asking him for a review of Night of the Prog until he finally shows up and writes me one?
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Been listening to Legends alot the past few days. Just want to proclaim my love for it :hefdaddy
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Been listening to Legends alot the past few days. Just want to proclaim my love for it :hefdaddy
:metal :metal :metal
I've been listening to it a lot too. :)
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Indeed I am. I wonder if Fritzinger knows that I'm going to persist in asking him for a review of Night of the Prog until he finally shows up and writes me one?
Shoot, sorry guys!!! I’ve been on vacation on a campground with basically no internet. I’ll write some words about the festival as soon as i find the time!!! :)
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Been listening to Legends alot the past few days. Just want to proclaim my love for it :hefdaddy
:metal :metal :metal
I've been listening to it a lot too. :)
I agree. As much as I love Damian Wilson I think Legends of the Shire is easily their best album.
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Legends is great. Sometimes I feel it's much too long but it's a great album.
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Indeed I am. I wonder if Fritzinger knows that I'm going to persist in asking him for a review of Night of the Prog until he finally shows up and writes me one?
Shoot, sorry guys!!! I’ve been on vacation on a campground with basically no internet. I’ll write some words about the festival as soon as i find the time!!! :)
No apologies needed - I was just messing with you. :) Of course I do want to know all about Threshold's set and if you got the songs you wanted and how awesome Glynn was. (Though youtube has already convinced me that the answer is: pretty darn awesome). Also curious how you liked Riverside's guitar player, especially if you were already a fan of theirs from before.
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Been listening to Legends alot the past few days. Just want to proclaim my love for it :hefdaddy
:metal :metal :metal
I've been listening to it a lot too. :)
I agree. As much as I love Damian Wilson I think Legends of the Shire is easily their best album.
I'm not prepared yet to not have a Mac album as my favorite, plus Legends of the Shires is still not even a year old, which means that even though I have listened to it a lot, it doesn't yet have that history with me.
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I know I am late with this, but here are some words about Thresholds show at the Loreley!
Recently I had gotten into the band a little and I have never seen them live before. I really like the voice of Mac, and have heard tons of good stuff about Damian, so it was interesting to see how the "new old" guy was holding up. In my opinion, he's a VERY charismatic frontman and a great singer. And dare I say, he's a very good looking guy, too. Glynn did a very good job communicating with the crowd and it felt like he had been their frontman for decades.
The band had some major sound difficulties though in the beginning. It seemed like the bass wasn't working at all, and vocals were barely audible, so were the keys. Only things audible were the guitar and the drums. The crew needed about two/three songs to figure the whole thing out.. but after the initial struggle, the sound was pretty good, especially for a (let me call it) co-co-headliner.
I'd like to say some words about Johanne James since I have read overwhelming words about him in some other places in the internet. I don't want to talk bad about him, but I certainly don't understand the opinion that he was the best drummer of the whole festival when guys like Nick D'Virgilio and Marco Minnemann were around. James played a very solid, good set, but in my personal opinion he lacked sensitivity, some nuances; or to say it the other way round, his playing is not very detailed. That is not saying he is a bad drummer, but he could have concentrated a little more on, say, a few ghost notes or so, than on doing the same rotating-stick-trick all over again :lol
BUT it was an awesome set!
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Thanks! :)
Did they play Light and Space and Mission Profile? I know you were hoping to hear those two.
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the show so much and that Glynn sounded so good. It's also interesting to hear your impressions of him as a front man, never having seen the band before. I thought both Damian and Mac were more active on stage and more able to get the crowd going. But it's not a complaint about Glynn, and he has a more maybe laid back approach but it still works. I definitely felt that there was still a connection with the audience and that along with how well he sang is all that really matters.
It's too bad about the sound issues - especially that it took so long to get resolved. At Rosfest the sound was mostly very good but during the middle the guitar volume dropped way down. I don't think it took super long to fix but it was a little annoying.
About Johanne... I'm not a drummer. So that's where I come from, and all I can say is I really enjoy watching him play. Having said that, musicians, including drummers, couldn't stop talking about him at ProgPower. I do remember there being a conversation about how necessary the stick twirling was, but people seemed to say that they didn't care and he could do it as much as he wanted since he played so well. So I guess there's something to it. But I can only assume a lot of people liked Marco too. I've never seen him live but he's always spoken of highly.
Thanks again for writing that and I'm glad you got to see them for the first time and enjoyed the show. :)
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Just discovered that they released a live album from the Hobbit tour back in August. Picked it up and it is quite good. Glynn is just awesome on this.
I wish there were more Mac songs on it as I just can't stand Mac's voice. I'm missing out on 5 albums of material because I just can't get into his vocals. I know, I'm in the very small minority. I could only wish that they did a Jon Schaffer and have Glynn re-record all of the vocals on those albums.
https://www.thresh.net/music/two-zero-one-seven/
TWO-ZERO-ONE-SEVEN
Slipstream
The Man Who Saw Through Time
Snowblind
Innocent
Stars and Satellites
Mission Profile
Pilot In The Sky Of Dreams
Hollow
Lost In Translation
Small Dark Lines
(https://www.thresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Threshold_TWO-ZERO-ONE-SEVEN_s.jpg)
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I second that live album recommendation. It sounds great.
However - Mac rules. Go listen to those albums until you love them. :P
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I second that live album recommendation. It sounds great.
However - Mac rules. Go listen to those albums until you love them. :P
I do own Hypothetical and I go back to it every so often and the result is always the same, I just don't care for his vocals. Maybe I will give it a go again over the holidays.
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I hated Mac for many years, after seeing Threshold live at Progpower 1999, Mac was drunk and/or stoned onstage and was terrible.
It took quite a few years for me to forgive him for that performance, it probably wasn't until his death that I started to appreciate his unique voice and style.
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I read about that performance and that the band felt pretty bad about it. He'd been voted best front man of Wacken that year, and then they said he probably didn't get the same high rating at ProgPower Europe. :lol It's too bad if that's the only time you saw him.
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The worst part about the PP 1999 show, was the next morning, we were staying in the same hotel as the band.
Rich West saw us and asked us how the show was and we all lied and told him it was great!
But I did get to see Threshold at ProgPower UK in 2005 (I think) and it was much better, but the band still hadn't clicked for me.
Luckily I stuck with them, I was still buying every release from them and eventually when I heard Subsurface I started to feel some magic.
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It's interesting how we all have such different journeys with the same band and their various members. For many Mac is the definitive Threshold front man and I'm pretty much the exact opposite.
My Threshold journey started in 1994 when I bought Psychedelicatessen which became an immediate (and long term) favourite and I worked my way back to Extinct Instinct etc.......and so I was really upset when I heard that Glynn was a one album wonder. I sampled the Mac era but felt that they had lost much of their variety - it all sounded rather samey to me . I finally started to get interested again around Dead Reckoning which would be Mac's last. I really should revisit the Mac era properly and see if my opinions change.
I have been properly back on board ever since Damian's return and am even happier to have Glynn back. Hopefully they can put a run of albums with the current band.
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Mac is the only Threshold singer i like, but obviously the non-mac albums still have some good songs here and there.
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I got my intro just before the release of MoP. Seeing as how I'm a bing Damian fanboi, I'm somewhat partial to his albums. I love the Mac era for sure, and Legends is an A+ record, but for me... Damian would be my preference.
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Mac is the only Threshold singer i like, but obviously the non-mac albums still have some good songs here and there.
I'm not up on anything this Glynn guy has done, but personally, I cannot stand Damian.
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I got into Threshold around the time of Critical Mass, so Mac is definitely the one I associate most as being the voice of Threshold. But to be honest, I think all three are great. I love Damien's voice but didn't like his early Threshold albums much (not because of his singing though), but MOP was superb. And Glynn is great too. I'm glad all three vocalists have had at least one top-notch Threshold album each.
I'd be interested to know what everyone's favourite album from each singer is. Mine are:
Mac: Hypothetical
Glynn: Legend of the Shires
Damien: March of Progress
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I'd be interested to know what everyone's favourite album from each singer is. Mine are:
Mac: Hypothetical
Glynn: Legend of the Shires
Damien: March of Progress
I'd go with that, aside from Mac.
I got into Threshold from also being a Damian fanboy. I remember I bought both of his albums and one Mac album (coincidentally, the one listed in the quote). I completely ignored the first Glynn album. I also avoided the new Glynn album until Damian came out and endorsed him and his voice for the band. Then I checked out samples and was blown away. I still listen to the 2 Glynn albums fairly regularly. I have also been jamming the new live album as well. Mission Profile is a song I wasn't too familiar with as it is a Mac song. Glynn just slays on that track. I really hope they hold onto Glynn for a while.
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March of Progress - one of my fave Threshold albums, love every song, has some killer melodies and some cool proggy bits.
I played it yesterday on my big hifi and I noticed the amount of compression used on the sound, that's the only negative I can think of.
Legends - again another killer album and Glynn sounds amazing on this, but even more compression used on this than MoP.
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I have a really hard time picking a favorite Mac album. It always changes.
Legends of the Shires is my favorite Glynn album.
For Damian, I'll go with Extinct Instinct.
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Bump
Tour? Slim to none. I would consider a ProgPower appearance in the next three years to be a good possibility though.
well, I guess it will be 7 years later :lol but that's why I am here. Next band for me to discover playing this year's ProgPower is Threshold. Seems they have a bit of history with singers and lots of albums that makes it hard to find somewhere to start, but seems Legend of the Shires is a good place to start. Just heard the title track for the first time and enjoyed it. Just listening through youtube videos for now, Mission Profile came on next, solid song too. Seems like a band I would really like based on what I hear.
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Tour? Slim to none. I would consider a ProgPower appearance in the next three years to be a good possibility though.
well, I guess it will be 7 years later :lol but that's why I am here. Next band for me to discover playing this year's ProgPower is Threshold. Seems they have a bit of history with singers and lots of albums that makes it hard to find somewhere to start, but seems Legend of the Shires is a good place to start. Just heard the title track for the first time and enjoyed it. Just listening through youtube videos for now, Mission Profile came on next, solid song too. Seems like a band I would really like based on what I hear.
:metal Threshold is amazing. :) For ProgPower prep, I think Legends of the Shires is a great place to start. After that, I would go with the Mac albums and Psychedelicatessen, and you *should* have the setlist covered. Of course I say listen to them all, but I know there's a lot.
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Since hearing Damian Wilson on Ayreon's Into the Electric Castle, I've been wanting to start getting into Threshold.
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Bump
Tour? Slim to none. I would consider a ProgPower appearance in the next three years to be a good possibility though.
well, I guess it will be 7 years later :lol but that's why I am here. Next band for me to discover playing this year's ProgPower is Threshold. Seems they have a bit of history with singers and lots of albums that makes it hard to find somewhere to start, but seems Legend of the Shires is a good place to start. Just heard the title track for the first time and enjoyed it. Just listening through youtube videos for now, Mission Profile came on next, solid song too. Seems like a band I would really like based on what I hear.
:metal Threshold is amazing. :) For ProgPower prep, I think Legends of the Shires is a great place to start. After that, I would go with the Mac albums and Psychedelicatessen, and you *should* have the setlist covered. Of course I say listen to them all, but I know there's a lot.
Thanks, and yea, they have too much to just go through it all, especially since there's more PP bands I want to check out so getting to know what's likely to be played is a perfect starting place.
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Although I loved Dead Reckoning and the magic wore off after hearing the rest of their albums, there are some great songs throughout their albums. cram, if you haven't heard it, I strongly suggest you look up Pilot in the Sky of Dreams, from Dead Reckoning. That's the song that put the band on my radar and it's just so awesome. Slipstream is another killer.
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Wanting to check out Damian Wilson's work I got into Threshold last year, at least partly because of recommendations in the Ayreon thread, so I started with the debut and kept going chronologically. Dead Reckoning is next (and I'll get around to it) but at some point it started to sound quite samey.
Don't get me wrong, solid albums all with great songs along the way, just not that much variety. It's not a vocalist problem either - Mac is great.
Maybe it's because I really took to Wounded Land and it's not really indicative of where they would go.
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Bump, I bought from the thresh.net shop 2017 live album and Wireless.
The live album with Glynn is killer, his voice sounds great, even the Mac songs he breathes new life into them.
Really highly recommended release.
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I'll second that recommendation. Glynn sounds awesome on that live album.
I'll also recommend Wireless. Some of the songs you wouldn't expect to be good acoustic really are.
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The Legends album has really aged well. Very tasteful solos and Glynn’s voice seems to be perfect going forward. The live album they released with Glynn is also very good.
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This made me check their website and it states they are well into writing for the next record and to expect it in 2021. Looking forward to that one.
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Mac is the only Threshold singer i like, but obviously the non-mac albums still have some good songs here and there.
I'm not up on anything this Glynn guy has done, but personally, I cannot stand Damian.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either. I much prefer the Mac era of the band.
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Mac is the only Threshold singer i like, but obviously the non-mac albums still have some good songs here and there.
I'm not up on anything this Glynn guy has done, but personally, I cannot stand Damian.
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan either. I much prefer the Mac era of the band.
While I can tolerate Damian, he is definitely my least favorite of Threshold's vocalists. When Mac split, I was really hoping Glynn would return and was bummed when they got Damian instead. But I was so happy when it was announced Glynn was back. He's my personal favorite of their vocalists (Psychedelicatessen was always one of my favorite albums of theirs, along with Clone), altho Mac is a close second.
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Didn't know where to put this:
https://lotsofmuzik.com/league-of-lights-release-video-for-new-single-twenty-twenty-one/
LEAGUE OF LIGHTS, comprising married couple Farrah and Richard West (Threshold)
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The band are re-issuing their direct-to-fan releases only available from the band's webstore.
http://www.thresh.net/store/
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Saw that. Very interested to have a Live show with Mac. I bought a the Critical Energy DVD with him a number of years ago, but haven’t watched it in quite some time.
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Saw that. Very interested to have a Live show with Mac. I bought a the Critical Energy DVD with him a number of years ago, but haven’t watched it in quite some time.
It's hard to watch with the dubbed in vocals.
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from their FB feed ...
Threshold have entered Thin Ice Studios in Surrey, England to record the follow up to their critically acclaimed 2017 album 'Legends Of The Shires'.
Guitarist Karl Groom comments: "After not seeing the rest of the band for the longest time I can recall, it's great to be spending time together making music again. A new Threshold album is always special for the band, but this will mean a lot after recent events."
Following the release of 'Legends Of The Shires', Threshold toured the album across 18 different countries before their touring plans were put to a halt by the COVID-19 pandemic.
'Legends Of The Shires' saw the return of vocalist Glynn Morgan, for the first time since the band's 1994 record 'Psychedelicatessen'. In regards to rejoining the band, and recording the follow up to 'Legends...', Glynn explains: "It's an absolute buzz meeting up with the guys again and totally exciting to be getting going again. The whole 'Legends' journey was just so cool and it was awesome to be part of it, I just can’t wait to do it again!"
All of the songs for the new album have now been written and arranged, and the band are currently in the process of tracking their final performances.
Keyboard player Richard West concludes: "It's all coming together beautifully and sounding better than ever. If 'Legends Of The Shires' had a slightly darker, moodier older brother then this would be it."
Threshold's as yet untitled new album will be released via Nuclear Blast Records in the first half of 2022.
Yay! LOTS was one of my favorite albums of 2017, and their set at PPUSA was fucking :metal. Lookin forward to this.
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Great, I really enjoyed Legends.
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Great, I really enjoyed Legends.
I did too! I was super-excited for Glynn's return and he certainly didn't disappoint (along with the rest of the band, of course). I always had a soft spot for Psychedelicatessen, and Morgan's vocals were a big reason for that. Fantastic vocalist, wished he'd done more...
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Glynn sound great on the live album, but Legends is almost too harsh to listen to.
The brick wall mastering and very low dynamic range are total spoilers for me.
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Great news and glad that they are sticking with Glynn. I was so upset with the Damian fiasco, but Glynn came in and blew me away. I ended up even tracking down both Mindfeed records from him.
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Great news and glad that they are sticking with Glynn. I was so upset with the Damian fiasco, but Glynn came in and blew me away. I ended up even tracking down both Mindfeed records from him.
That's cool. I was annoyed too when they fired Damian, but the last album was really good so.
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Great, I really enjoyed Legends.
I always had a soft spot for Psychedelicatessen, and Morgan's vocals were a big reason for that. Fantastic vocalist, wished he'd done more...
Made my DTF top 50 and was my first exposure to Threshold so he was who I related to as singer despite Damian being far more prolific over the discog. I like Damian too and really enjoyed many of his albums with the band but I was glad to see Glynn back.
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Great news and glad that they are sticking with Glynn. I was so upset with the Damian fiasco, but Glynn came in and blew me away. I ended up even tracking down both Mindfeed records from him.
Yes! Love Ten Miles High...he really is the star of the show on that one...
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Legend of the Shrines is one of their best, so I am looking forward to their next effort.
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Great news and glad that they are sticking with Glynn. I was so upset with the Damian fiasco, but Glynn came in and blew me away. I ended up even tracking down both Mindfeed records from him.
Wow. Didn't know Glynn was in another band. I'm listening to the Mindfeed albums. Very strong stuff. Glynn's voice reminds me of Zak Stevens for whatever reason.
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I'm not much of a fan of Damian's voice so this is good news for me. This band has been an automatic buy from me since the release of 1998's "Clone" - I think Andrew "Mac" McDermott was my favorite of their vocalists, but Glynn is definitely a better choice than Damian.
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I thought this album was complete and they were on the verge of releasing! Guess I was wrong! :lol
Looking forward, Threshold are always solid.
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Interesting picture in the Threshold FB page.
Both Damian Wilson and Glynn at Thin Ice Studios (Threshold's studio). First time they have ever met.
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I saw that... and more importantly, Damian doing something with/for Arena!
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I saw that... and more importantly, Damian doing something with/for Arena!
Damian was named Arena's new vocalist some time ago. He will be on their new album whenever it comes out. I know nothing of Arena, aside from it being Mick Pointer's band, but plan on changing that with Damian in the fold.
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I haven't listened to a ton of Arena records, but I kind of fondly remember The Visitor album. I believe it was the first with Jon Mitchell on guitar. I think the last I've heard is Pepper's Ghost...
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heh, Karl Groom engineered the drums on the first The ANABASIS album. They were recorded at Thin Ice
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I saw that... and more importantly, Damian doing something with/for Arena!
Damian was named Arena's new vocalist some time ago. He will be on their new album whenever it comes out. I know nothing of Arena, aside from it being Mick Pointer's band, but plan on changing that with Damian in the fold.
Now that you mention it, I think I remember hearing about that.
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It's in the liner notes :)
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I saw that... and more importantly, Damian doing something with/for Arena!
At the time, Damian and Threshold appeared to have separated not in the best terms. Glad they patched up (maybe, sort of..who knows!). I do enjoy Mac and Glynn's voice more than Damian's.
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Missed this from a couple of days ago ...
Had a great day filming the video for our upcoming Threshold single. I'd forgotten how much I love doing this!
Hot damn! :fistpump:
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Three months later, still nothing but 'coming soon' from Rich West.
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Yeah, what is going on with this album? Feels like its been in production forever...
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I don't really know, I am pretty sure that the album has been in the can for a couple of months.
It could be that they looking at a new recording contract and being one of the many bands leaving NB.
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"Incoming transmission due July 15th:"
https://bfan.link/silenced.fpo (https://bfan.link/silenced.fpo)
Looks like we'll have a new single tomorrow.
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"Incoming transmission due July 15th:"
https://bfan.link/silenced.fpo (https://bfan.link/silenced.fpo)
Looks like we'll have a new single tomorrow.
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Pretty cool song for a single I reckon...................plenty of DT influence in that opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZlaXOvKew8
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Pretty cool song for a single I reckon...................plenty of DT influence in that opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZlaXOvKew8
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You're ahead of your time, Brent! :lol
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The new song is killer, lots of keys, great melody and Glynn sounds so perfect for the band :xbones
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The new song is killer, lots of keys, great melody and Glynn sounds so perfect for the band :xbones
Glad you agree..........I thought everyone would be pining for Damian by now :D. Unlike most I grew up with Psychedelicatessen (and less so Extinct Instinct) being "my" Threshold albums/era and , although I love plenty of their other work , their recent work with Glynn brings back a lot of memories and feels very "right" to me. Keen to hear the new album :metal
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I really like the new song, looking forward to the album.
Apparently they've said this about the new album: "If Legends of the Shires had a slightly darker, moodier older brother then this would be it".
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The new song is killer, lots of keys, great melody and Glynn sounds so perfect for the band :xbones
Glad you agree..........I thought everyone would be pining for Damian by now :D. Unlike most I grew up with Psychedelicatessen (and less so Extinct Instinct) being "my" Threshold albums/era and , although I love plenty of their other work , their recent work with Glynn brings back a lot of memories and feels very "right" to me. Keen to hear the new album :metal
Not me I think Glynn is a perfect fit, he was great on Shires and the live album, besides I will be seeing Damian with Arena in October, now that will be interesting.
I actually like all three singers they have had.
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(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a3404099269_10.jpg)
Dividing Lines - November 18.
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Threshold has been lucky to have three really good singers. Glynn killed the old material live when I saw them at RoSFest a few years ago, and he was just a really awesome dude as well.
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I must be missing something, I didn't think that track was that great at all.
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The new song is killer, lots of keys, great melody and Glynn sounds so perfect for the band :xbones
Glad you agree..........I thought everyone would be pining for Damian by now :D. Unlike most I grew up with Psychedelicatessen (and less so Extinct Instinct) being "my" Threshold albums/era and , although I love plenty of their other work , their recent work with Glynn brings back a lot of memories and feels very "right" to me. Keen to hear the new album :metal
Haven't heard the new song yet, but I'm SO with you on this :) I actually did purchase Wounded Land when it came out, so I have super-fond memories of their debut, but I loved Psychedelicatessen and Glynn has always been my favorite vocalist for the band (despite singing on only one album until recently ;)). I was happy when his return was announced - and Legends of the Shires was very good.
What did you think of his band, Mindfeed? It disappeared pretty quickly, but Ten Miles High is a little gem for me.
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Official music video
https://youtu.be/XszH7l4Xf4E
One thing I noticed in the video, Karl is not playing an Ibanez, now using a Solar guitar.
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That's a very solid song, and I'm excited about the full album! :metal
I hadn't listened to Threshold in a long time, mainly because they felt a bit too formulaic to me sometimes and just completely forgot about them for a few years, but I think I'm going to dive back into their catalog now to prepare for the new album :tup
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I thought the song was ok - only one listen, but I get a vibe similar to the more concise songs of the Mac-era, perhaps...?
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What did you think of his band, Mindfeed? It disappeared pretty quickly, but Ten Miles High is a little gem for me.
Honestly I didn't give it much of a chance...........memories are hazy but a less melodic, slightly grungy version of Threshold is what I recall. That and that there was another version of Innocent. But yeah - might revisit and take another listen .
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I like the new single.
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What did you think of his band, Mindfeed? It disappeared pretty quickly, but Ten Miles High is a little gem for me.
Honestly I didn't give it much of a chance...........memories are hazy but a less melodic, slightly grungy version of Threshold is what I recall. That and that there was another version of Innocent. But yeah - might revisit and take another listen .
I never heard their first record, but their second, and last (Ten Miles High) doesn't have much of the Threshold sound (well, if you don't count Glynn' voice and the fact that they have their own version of Innocent - which was 100% his song anyway). Yes, there's some grunge-y sound and a good dose of what could pass for "modern" metal in 1998 (the riff in the opener wouldn't be out of place in Machine Head's debut). But it's a neat, powerful and well-produced record, and Glynn sounds absolutely phenomenal on it - he really does bring the songs to a higher level. Check out, among others, Cold Smile (that ending!), or the slow, mournful march in I Bleed.
Certainly not an album for the history books, but I've always enjoyed it. I wish they'd done more.
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I may have finally turned the corner on Mac. Every few years I try and give Hypothetical a spin as it is the only Mac album I ever bought. With the new album coming soon, I gave it a whirl again. Well, I actually have to credit Glynn with the idea. I watched a video of them performing Mission Profile in concert and Glynn called out Mac.
Anyway, I wasn't as disgusted with him as I have usually been. I did think Keep My Head was a huge stinkburger, but otherwise I was enjoying it. The music is just so good. Mac will still be my third favorite vocalist in the band, but that goes without saying. So last night I ordered Clone, Critical Mass, Subsurface and Dead Reckoning. Looks like they are coming from Argentina so it will be a while before I have them. Wait, Dead Reckoning is coming from the States, the other 3 from Argentina. These are not easy to find.
This is why I gave up selling anything from my collection. Tastes change. I mean, I hated Rush for years because of the terrible vocalist and now they are my favorite band of all time. :lol
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Mac had such a great voice. I guess I haven't heard enough of this Glynn guy.
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Mac had such a great voice. I guess I haven't heard enough of this Glynn guy.
Just discovered they have a Bandcamp. You can check out all of Glynn's stuff there. Like Damian said, Glynn has gravel in his voice that Damian just doesn't. He still has some great range. Here's 2 tracks to start with.
https://thresholdprog.bandcamp.com/track/will-to-give - from their second album Psychedelicatessen
https://thresholdprog.bandcamp.com/track/mission-profile-live-2 - from their 2017 live album
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All my Mac albums have already shown up. Listened to Dead Reckoning already. Enjoyed it. Listening to Subsurface right now and it is kicking my butt! Still not entirely sold on Mac, but I have clearly gotten over my utter dislike of him since I am enjoying the crap out of these albums I have been missing.
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New single is out today, Friday sounding pretty good too :metal
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Video for 'King Of Nothing': https://youtu.be/fOx_pudo2aU
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The new song is killer, lots of keys, great melody and Glynn sounds so perfect for the band :xbones
Glad you agree..........I thought everyone would be pining for Damian by now :D. Unlike most I grew up with Psychedelicatessen (and less so Extinct Instinct) being "my" Threshold albums/era and , although I love plenty of their other work , their recent work with Glynn brings back a lot of memories and feels very "right" to me. Keen to hear the new album :metal
Haven't heard the new song yet, but I'm SO with you on this :) I actually did purchase Wounded Land when it came out, so I have super-fond memories of their debut, but I loved Psychedelicatessen and Glynn has always been my favorite vocalist for the band (despite singing on only one album until recently ;)). I was happy when his return was announced - and Legends of the Shires was very good.
What did you think of his band, Mindfeed? It disappeared pretty quickly, but Ten Miles High is a little gem for me.
Late reply but I love the two Mindfeed albums. :)
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I'm trying to hold out and not listen to the singles; I'd like to just listen to the full album once it's out. Very much looking forward to it though as I thought Legends of the Shires was incredible.
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I'm trying to hold out and not listen to the singles; I'd like to just listen to the full album once it's out. Very much looking forward to it though as I thought Legends of the Shires was incredible.
I usually only listen to the singles once or twice as I don't want to OD on them before the albums drops.
Yeah Legends was great, but sounds so bad sonically.
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Enjoyed this one much more than the first single \m/
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Enjoyed this one much more than the first single \m/
Me too
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I'm trying to hold out and not listen to the singles; I'd like to just listen to the full album once it's out. Very much looking forward to it though as I thought Legends of the Shires was incredible.
I usually only listen to the singles once or twice as I don't want to OD on them before the albums drops.
Yeah Legends was great, but sounds so bad sonically.
Really? I thought it sounded good production/mixing/mastering wise but I always thought that acoustic guitar at the beginning didn't sound too well, as in not professionally recorded.
That being said, Legend is a GREAT album. It's not often a band releases a double album this good so late in their career.
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The latest song feels a bit bland to me to be honest.
Legends of the Shrines was amazing, their best together with March of Progress in my opinion.
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I'm trying to hold out and not listen to the singles; I'd like to just listen to the full album once it's out. Very much looking forward to it though as I thought Legends of the Shires was incredible.
I usually only listen to the singles once or twice as I don't want to OD on them before the albums drops.
Yeah Legends was great, but sounds so bad sonically.
Really? I thought it sounded good production/mixing/mastering wise but I always thought that acoustic guitar at the beginning didn't sound too well, as in not professionally recorded.
That being said, Legend is a GREAT album. It's not often a band releases a double album this good so late in their career.
It not sounding good sonically never once crossed my mind; I wasn't thinking about it at all which I guess for me personally is a good sign. But in fairness I almost never complain about the sound/mix//etc. For me, if all I'm thinking out is whether I like the songs or not, then I guess the record sounds just fine.
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Mac had such a great voice. I guess I haven't heard enough of this Glynn guy.
Just discovered they have a Bandcamp. You can check out all of Glynn's stuff there. Like Damian said, Glynn has gravel in his voice that Damian just doesn't. He still has some great range. Here's 2 tracks to start with.
https://thresholdprog.bandcamp.com/track/will-to-give - from their second album Psychedelicatessen
https://thresholdprog.bandcamp.com/track/mission-profile-live-2 - from their 2017 live album
I'll have to give Legends Of The Shire a proper listen. I never gave it any attention.
I listened to the new single the other day and yawned my way through it. The band doesn't seem to have the same musical aggression. Maybe it's just the song.
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Third single is here, 'Complex'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XZ4crYfzE0
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Only heard Complex a couple of times, Glynn is a huge breath of thresh air for the band.
BTW I spoke to Damien Wilson before the Arena gig last week, about his departure from the band, he was very open and honest about it too :yarr
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BTW I spoke to Damien Wilson before the Arena gig last week, about his departure from the band, he was very open and honest about it too :yarr
What did he have to say?
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He basically said that Rich and Karl wouldn't let him contribute as much as he wanted and froze him out.
That said he was not at all bitter and very complimentary about Glynn Morgan.
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That seems pretty much the opposite of what Karl had said. But I suppose maybe the reason Damian wasn't interested anymore is because he felt he wasn't able to contribute so he checked out.
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Well, this is odd. Rich has a new band and is releasing a sequel to Legends Of The Shires with them. I was intrigued until I saw he will be handling lead vocals. Any idea what his voice is like?
https://bravewords.com/news/richard-west-s-oblivion-protocol-signs-to-atomic-fire-records-work-on-the-fall-of-the-shires-concept-album-underway
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
I am mega happy with it, played it twice already, it has a dark sinister sound and feel to it.
The songs are great, melodies galore, nothing really new, but as you'd expect from Threshold nothing short of magnificent.
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
10 months seems excessive. Apparently industry timescales are now about 6 months (compared with more like 3-4 months pre-COVID) due to vinyl production times. Not sure what they were doing the rest of the time!
Anyway, first listen is sounding good so far.
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
10 months seems excessive. Apparently industry timescales are now about 6 months (compared with more like 3-4 months pre-COVID) due to vinyl production times. Not sure what they were doing the rest of the time!
Anyway, first listen is sounding good so far.
Then I wish more bands would do what Borealis did - release the album as the mediums become available (ie, they released their album digitally, and then on vinyl a couple of months later). Oh well, it's finally here. Time to click play.
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
10 months seems excessive. Apparently industry timescales are now about 6 months (compared with more like 3-4 months pre-COVID) due to vinyl production times. Not sure what they were doing the rest of the time!
Anyway, first listen is sounding good so far.
Then I wish more bands would do what Borealis did - release the album as the mediums become available (ie, they released their album digitally, and then on vinyl a couple of months later). Oh well, it's finally here. Time to click play.
Depends on the band's status, label and other factors. For a lot of bands/labels, performance is partly determined by first week sales/streams. If vinyl is excluded, that can have a material impact (pre-orders don't count until they're actually shipped).
That's why it tends to be independent bands or those on smaller labels who do that.
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
10 months seems excessive. Apparently industry timescales are now about 6 months (compared with more like 3-4 months pre-COVID) due to vinyl production times. Not sure what they were doing the rest of the time!
Anyway, first listen is sounding good so far.
Then I wish more bands would do what Borealis did - release the album as the mediums become available (ie, they released their album digitally, and then on vinyl a couple of months later). Oh well, it's finally here. Time to click play.
Depends on the band's status, label and other factors. For a lot of bands/labels, performance is partly determined by first week sales/streams. If vinyl is excluded, that can have a material impact (pre-orders don't count until they're actually shipped).
That's why it tends to be independent bands or those on smaller labels who do that.
Fair point.
Anyway ... this one is an instant purchase. Fantastic music.
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Today is release day for 'Divided Lines' some 10 months after the band delivered the album to their label.
10 months seems excessive. Apparently industry timescales are now about 6 months (compared with more like 3-4 months pre-COVID) due to vinyl production times. Not sure what they were doing the rest of the time!
Anyway, first listen is sounding good so far.
When you involved a label like NB, then its no surprise.
Since they were sold, all their best bands and staff have left them.
The new owners even changed their iconic green radiation logo to a boring skull.
New lyric video for the opening track from 'Dividing Lines', 'Haunted'
https://youtu.be/g9kaTZb4H2A
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Absolutely loving the keyboard work on this one.
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The lyrics are brilliant and for all of those
leaching streaming, these can be found here;
https://www.thresh.net/music/dividing-lines/
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The song “Run” is hitting me hard. Enjoying this album more than Shrines even though it was a superb album.
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'Run' is great Glynn's vocals on this one really shine, the passion and emotion are sublime.
My current fave is 'Hall Of Echoes' as different kind of song for Threshold.
In fact the whole album is just slaying me, one of their best to these ears.
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Great record overall indeed! Took them a few years, but it's been worth the wait.
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Just pressed play on this one. The singles didn't really click with me, but "Hall of Echoes" is an instant favorite. Looking forward to the remaining tracks, this is good stuff.
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I've been super critical lately with new stuff. Not much grabs me and I can be pretty ruthless but I checked this album today. This has potential. I'm not a die hand fan but have most of their albums. There was quite a lot of good songwriting here and some nice crunchy riffs too. Let it Burn was a fav but Domino held my attention too.
Hopefully the second listen tomorrow keeps that going. There were a few moments I drifted but was very good on a whole.
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King Of Nothing is probably my favourite right now. And I had Hall Of Echoes stuck in my head this morning.
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I'm not the biggest fan of Glynn either. He's fine but Tim summed it up well, he's just kinda.....there.
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I like the record, but am not blown away or anything. Run is a standout to me and a track where Glynn does shine (I am also in the camp that thinks Glynn is solid but his vocals do not stand out to me usually).
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I’ve listened to Divided Lines twice so far and quite enjoyed it. I didn’t like Legend of the Shire very much, so I had low expectations for DL and am pleasantly surprised.
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It took a really long time for my copy to arrive, but I've been listening to it a lot over the last few days and it's a great album. I think Glynn sounds great too.
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I'm on my third listen in a row today.... Really enjoying this album. :)
PS - the title is DividING Lines. :)
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Liking it a lot too...I had enjoyed Morgan's comeback with Legends of the Shires, but I might (still early to say) like this one even better. It's punchy, classic but very "contemporary"-sounding...and the melodies are fantastic...they nail pretty much every chorus. Let It Burn my favorite song, currently.
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Let's not get too crazy with the "better than Legends of the Shires" statements... :)
You're right that it's too early but if I end up thinking that I'll be quite surprised. Even though so far I think this album is awesome.
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Enjoying the new album so far. "King of Nothing" and "Let it Burn" are instant favorites. Glynn sounds incredible, as does the whole band. And I'm enjoying the themes in the lyrics so far. Gonna be listening to this disc for some time. \m/
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Dividing Lines rules. :metal
It has me listening to a ton of Threshold lately and everything this band has done is great. Right now it's Critical Mass and earlier it was March of Progress. Crazy singer changes, plenty of other line up changes, and they adjust and put out something amazing every time.
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This album has been totally kicking my ass. I've basically had it on repeat in my house for the past few weeks and and in my car. I'm pretty hooked. Glynn's voice is so good. Everyone sounds great. I never thought I'd like a Threshold album more than one from the Mac era (because I totally loved his voice), but this one is up there. This band, which has amazingly endured over the course of three different vocalists, deserves so much more recognition. They should be considered among the progressive metal elite.
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I'm just finishing up another listen to the album as we speak (er, as I type...). So so good.
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Agreed. Where does it stand for you within their discography? I know it's pretty early, but curious on your thoughts at this stage...
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Uh.... Can't we just agree that there's really no need to rank Threshold albums? :)
It is way too soon for me to even think about comparing Dividing Lines to the others. But I have a really hard time ranking the others anyway. Threshold is one of the few bands where I really like every song.
Mac is my favorite Threshold singer, but I love all three of them. (And all three made my favorite singers list).
Maybe Hypothetical, Critical Mass, Subsurface, and Legends of the Shires would be my top 4. (And that's chronological because picking between them is really really hard).
And sometimes the other Mac albums join that list. And sometimes March of Progress and Extinct Instinct and Psychedelicatessen... See this is impossible. :)
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I hear ya ;)
Yep, they are kind of the very definition of "consistent band"...and I say this in the best possible way. Sure, it might not be one of stroke of genius after another, but the quality is so high throughout, it's hard to rank their work (and there is no need to, really!)
Partly for sentimental reasons, I have a (very) soft spot for the first two records, Wounded Land and Psychedelicatessen. I bought their debut when it came out, after reading a glowing review in a magazine. At the time, obviously there were many prog metal bands releasing records following the success of I&W, and everyone was rushing to label everything as the "new Dream Theater" (as if they were not still pretty "new" themselves!). Clearly, Threshold's sound never had much to do with DT anyway...but I remember thinking, when I first listened to Wounded Land, this is quite different than I expected. It almost had an epic-doom vibe in some songs...something they never quite explored again in subsequent albums. And the way they combined hefty guitars with neo-prog sounding keyboards was great. Psychedelicatessen immediately felt a bit heavier, and it brought it Morgan, who I always thought was a fantastic vocalist. Amazing record.
Extinct Instinct, while good, is maybe one of my least favorites...not sure why...it disappointed me a bit at the time. Then came Mac...another great singer. Of that era, I think Hypothetical and Critical Mass might be my favorites. But, as you say, there is something to like in all of them.
For some reason, I didn't spend as much time with March of Progress and For the Journey. They didn't impress me as much, but I should revisit.
And, finally, the "reunion" with Morgan...both records are SO good. Way better than I expected, actually, at this stage. They are very much Threshold records, but there is a certain energy and enthusiasm about them (even in the melancholy that pervades most of Legends of the Shires).
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That is so cool that you've been a fan since the beginning. Was it really crazy being a fan in real time when all of the back and forth singer changes were going on?
My first album was Hypothetical. At first I didn't really think about the vocals much one way or the other - they were there, they were fine. I just thought the songs on Hypothetical were awesome. And that morphed into "hey this guy is actually really good" and then to him being one of my favorite singers. When I went backwards, I really had to get used to Damian's voice on Extinct Instinct. But at that point I was all in on Threshold and was determined that if it was an acquired taste, I was acquiring it. :) And again, I thought the songs were fantastic. I liked Wounded and Land and Psychedelicatessen a lot, and became a fan of Damian between his Threshold albums and Star One and Ayreon. With Glynn, I thought he sounded really good on Psychedelicatessen but what really made me a Glynn fan was the Livedelica album that came with it. I thought he crushed it.
March of Progress took me a while to fully embrace. I reluctantly had to acknowledge how good it was, but I had been very upset by Mac leaving and then he passed away and I kind of stopped listening. Not completely, but it was a rare occasion that I would listen to Threshold and when I did I kind of mentally kept myself at arms length if that makes any sense.
And then with Legends of the Shires I was pulled back in - first, the whole thing with Damian being fired seemed like it came out of nowhere. I was disappointed by that, because he's a fantastic singer and those albums were great even if I wasn't listening much. Damian had been active and everyone knew he'd lost nothing and is good at pretty much everything he does (except he never sounded quite right singing the Mac stuff). I was very skeptical of how Glynn was going to sound after all those years, even though I probably shouldn't have been.
I heard Small Dark Lines ahead of time and I was like "meh" but I bought the album anyway And... it was good. Wait, it was better than good. It felt like Mac would have sounded perfect on some of those songs, and then I finally decided it was time to listen to everything and I did and it was emotional and stuff and I've been on board ever since. I really hope Glynn stays with the band because he sounds so good on these last two albums and he also sounds so good singing the Mac songs.
(Also I was insane to brush off Small Dark Lines - that's an incredible song).
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That is so cool that you've been a fan since the beginning. Was it really crazy being a fan in real time when all of the back and forth singer changes were going on?
Yes, it kinda was :) I mean, at the time the access to information wasn't as immediate, so you'd rely on printed magazines for the most part...so yeah, it was a bit jarring. I liked Damian Wilson, but he wasn't my favorite aspect of the band on Wounded Land, so I wasn't too disappointed with them parting ways after it...and, like I said, Morgan was an immediate hit for me, so all good there...but then, back to Wilson?! :biggrin: It wasn't entirely obvious what was going on there...and as if that wasn't enough, Clone rolls in, and there's yet another singer...
With Glynn, I thought he sounded really good on Psychedelicatessen but what really made me a Glynn fan was the Livedelica album that came with it. I thought he crushed it.
Couldn't agree more! His performance on Livedelica is fantastic (that version of Innocent!). By the way, after his first stint with Threshold, Morgan formed this band, Mindfeed...the sound is a bit different, more "alternative metal" if you will, but the songs are great, and his vocals are awesome. Check out their second album, Ten Miles High, if you don't know it and you are curious...they have their own version of Innocent on it too...
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That is so cool that you've been a fan since the beginning. Was it really crazy being a fan in real time when all of the back and forth singer changes were going on?
Yes, it kinda was :) I mean, at the time the access to information wasn't as immediate, so you'd rely on printed magazines for the most part...so yeah, it was a bit jarring. I liked Damian Wilson, but he wasn't my favorite aspect of the band on Wounded Land, so I wasn't too disappointed with them parting ways after it...and, like I said, Morgan was an immediate hit for me, so all good there...but then, back to Wilson?! :biggrin: It wasn't entirely obvious what was going on there...and as if that wasn't enough, Clone rolls in, and there's yet another singer...
At least Mac stayed with them for a good long while.
I think I put my foot in my mouth because I saw them the first time ProgPower and said something at their signing table like "no more lineup changes right?" in a kind of joking way but in a way that (hopefully) conveyed that I just liked the band that much. They turned to Jon Jeary as if it was up to him. And I (pretty stupidly I think) thought that meant he was kind of the band leader or something, but actually, he had already decided to leave and it was announced not too longer after.
With Glynn, I thought he sounded really good on Psychedelicatessen but what really made me a Glynn fan was the Livedelica album that came with it. I thought he crushed it.
Couldn't agree more! His performance on Livedelica is fantastic (that version of Innocent!). By the way, after his first stint with Threshold, Morgan formed this band, Mindfeed...the sound is a bit different, more "alternative metal" if you will, but the songs are great, and his vocals are awesome. Check out their second album, Ten Miles High, if you don't know it and you are curious...they have their own version of Innocent on it too...
I have them both! Which is how I pretty much instantly knew that Run was his song, because it sounds very much like his Mindfeed stuff. And yes, his vocals are awesome. Sounds like Glynn was a fan of Alice in Chains, which is fine by me. Just as far as the song-writing goes. His vocals just sound like himself. Also there's some really cool drumming on some of those tracks. Probably because I heard it first, but I like the Threshold version of Innocent better than the Mindfeed version. And yes - the Livedelica version is awesome. And he totally nailed the Wounded Land stuff.
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I have them both! Which is how I pretty much instantly knew that Run was his song, because it sounds very much like his Mindfeed stuff.
You know, I didn't even think of it...but you are right, I can totally hear it!
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Been digesting this one for a few weeks, listening to nearly nothing else in my car, and I’m absolutely loving it. These songs have been stuck in my head and won’t leave, and I’m fine with that! These guys almost never disappoint, and it’s another stellar record, which is awesome this late in their career. The front half is one banger after another, and I need to listen more to the second half.
One thing I’m loving is the guitar tone, especially during the lower riffing. It’s got some great punch and chunk, with what seems to be a trebly bite along with it. Sounds so good.
It’s honestly a much rarer occasion nowadays for me to get genuinely excited and moved while listening to music, but this album has hit all the right spots. One of Threshold’s best for sure.
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The second half is absolutely as good. :)
Glad to hear you're enjoying it so much. I still am as well.
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Also in complete agreement with the guitar sound on this album. Absolutely love it.
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An absolute killer album, never thought they had it in them at this stage in their career to produce something this close to a perfect piece of art (aka masterpiece).
The music is incredible, the guitar tone, the melodies and then we have the lyrics, which I never usually pay that much attention to, but these are really hard hitting.
But most of all its far more listenable than it's highly praised predecessor, due to a far superior, mix, mastering and production.
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Just got back from seeing these guys in London. Terrific gig.
I've not really heard much of them for a few years. Damian didn't quite click with me, perhaps? Not sure. But a mate kept up with them and suggested it. Really glad he did. Glynn has a fantastic live voice and the whole band was tight and heavy as you would probably expect.
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First single from Richard West side project, he is also singing...
OBLIVION PROTOCOL - Forests in the Fallout
https://youtu.be/Wma_iVqKRWw
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First single from Richard West side project, he is also singing...
OBLIVION PROTOCOL - Forests in the Fallout
https://youtu.be/Wma_iVqKRWw
Sounds just like Threshold, but I'm not too convinced by his vocals so far.
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Sadly, kind of what I feared. Great music with lackluster vocals. Why didn't he just get Glynn to sing on it? No harm in that, or at least get someone who can sing better.
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This Dividing Lines album keeps creeping back onto my speakers. Becoming more and more appreciative of the lyrics and Glynn as a vocalist. Really solid, growing songs.
Others have praised the sound but, if I were to nitpick, I find it a little too clean and the guitar a bit thin and crispy. Would go for a bit more beef, given the choice.
Overall, though, I've previously enjoyed these guys as a slightly cheesy, guilty fun pleasure but seeing them live and listening to DL a bunch has changed that.
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Dividing Lines is fantastic. It steadily climbed my album rankings from last year…would likely make my 2022 top 10 now.
I think Morgan is perfect for the band, not just for his singing (which I love), but more generally for his contributions. It feels like he adds a certain “punch” to the songwriting.
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I really liked his presence live too. Energetic and involving, while the rest are pretty "chilled", shall we say. ;)
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Listened to the OP album once and it's fine. The music is very well written, played and mixed but nothing really stood out. The singles were the most interesting songs, sadly.
Then there's the vocals... they aren't unlistenable or anything like that, but you can clearly tell they weren't performed by an actual singer, just a guy singing in tune.
Like I said, it's good, but I'm not sure how much staying power it'll have. I'd much rather listen to anything by Threshold than this.
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Listened to the OP album once and it's fine. The music is very well written, played and mixed but nothing really stood out. The singles were the most interesting songs, sadly.
Then there's the vocals... they aren't unlistenable or anything like that, but you can clearly tell they weren't performed by an actual singer, just a guy singing in tune.
Like I said, it's good, but I'm not sure how much staying power it'll have. I'd much rather listen to anything by Threshold than this.
When you abbreviated with OP, I thought "Opening Post", and was thinking 'man, that doesn't seem right to describe Divided Lines that way. That description holds perfectly for the Oblivion Proto - oh ... yeah... nevermind'. :rollin
But yeah, the middle comment of yours is spot on.
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:rollin I should've been more specific. Definitely taking about Oblivion Protocol, which was released today :P
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Had a listen to 'Opening Post' this morning, sounds okay, but IMO the vocals would more suit 1980's pop.
Ample proof that Threshold fire because of three key elements, Karl Groom, Rich West and a strong vocalist.
OP only has one of these and it really shows :biggrin:
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Ample proof that Threshold fire because of three key elements, Karl Groom, Rich West and a strong vocalist.
OP only has one of these and it really shows :biggrin:
Indeed!
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Having listened to the OP CD 6 times now, here's what I really think about it :yarr
I described it as 'Threshold lite' on my reviews for Amazon and CD Japan, but on subsequent listens I'd go as far as to call it a decent Threshold demo.
It has a lot of Threshold DNA running through it, familiar sounds, melodies and similarities.
But when Rich West opens his mouth, that's where it ends for me, his voice is decent enough, but more suited to pop or even ambient genres.
The songs are pretty decent, couple of quite memorable tunes, but I can't see myself going back to this again and again.
As a stand alone release this is more than passable, but because it could have been potentially a follow up to 'Legends Of the Shires', I can't help thinking how good this would be with Glynn Morgan's voice and Karl Grooms lead guitar/songwriting input (although he plays on two songs here).