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Title: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: Zantera on June 25, 2012, 06:06:05 PM
This is something I've been wanting to do for a while now. As some of you have picked up from my posts, I watched through Lost earlier during the Spring, and to put it simple I fell in love with the show big time. I think that in some ways it's a tv-show that people either love or hate, because it's a tv-show with lots of variety in it. Some people felt more attracted to the first and second season where everything was more "normal", some people liked it when the show took a turn for more supernatural events. Personally I enjoyed all seasons to the degree that this tv-show became my all time favorite. I know there are some other fans here as well, so I thought this thread would be fun.

I've put down quite some time compiling this list, with my favorite 20 episodes of the tv-show. Some might be controversial and some might be expected, it wasn't easy, I'll admit that. All 6 seasons of the tv-show are represented on this list. Some of the seasons have more episodes, some have less, but all are accounted for.
I'd be really happy if people posted their thoughts, while we might not agree on all the episodes I'm going to list, it might still lead to interesting discussions. :)
I'm gonna start off with a pick that might be pretty controversial, but let's start the list!

20. Across the Sea - Season 6, Episode 15 (Jacob/Man in Black-centric)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Islandheart.jpg)

Before I go into details, I know that this is a fairly controversial pick. In the end I think it all boils down to personal opinions regarding the whole Jacob vs The Man in Black, and the light vs dark aspect that was the main focus of the last season.
I always felt very intrigued when it came to both of these characters. Jacob was fascinating because his name appeared here and there, eventually we got to see his face, and I was always very interested in learning more about him. On the contrary I had similar feelings regarding The Man in Black. Was he always able to turn himself into a huge pillar of smoke, or did he pick it up along the way? This episode had the answers.

This episode shows how Jacob and Man in Black grew up on the island. While some might argue that very little actually happened in the episode, I found myself very into the whole thing. Just enjoying the scenes involving Mark Pellegrino and Titus Welliver, I think both were cast great. While the whole "light vs dark"-question is old and overused, it didn't bother me that much with this episode. If it hadn't been for me really liking these actors and their characters, it might have been a bigger problem for me. The ending of the episode is certainly the highlight for me. The Smoke Monster emerging, because it was one of my favorite elements of the show throughout. I was always fascinated with The Smoke Monster and what it was, because it was always such a tease through the seasons. A little glimpse here and there, but in this episode (and season 6) we got to learn more, and I liked that. :)

Will try and update with 2-3 per day!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Adami on June 25, 2012, 06:08:03 PM
I really liked that one episode that ended on a cliff hanger.


Oh oh, I also liked the episode where Jack got angry, ignored everyone's rational advice and instead decided to beat someone up....while breathing heavily.


Another favorite is the one where Sawyer insults everyone yet still gets the girls.

And we can't forget the one where Kate is useless.


Sorry I can't remember the names, can you tell me which those are?
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 25, 2012, 06:08:43 PM
Glad to see some love for this. Titus Welliver is a fucking badass.


Not one of my favorites..I think I overhyped it though.  :tup

INb4 Stranger in a Strange Land #1
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 25, 2012, 06:16:45 PM
Awesome idea for a list, although it's been a while since I watched the series and will probably have trouble remembering some of the episodes. Some of my personal favorites, and ones I expect to be on your list (just off the top of my head): Greatest Hits, Through The Looking Glass (both season 3), The End, and The Constant (a Desmond episode). There are so many great ones to choose from though...
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 25, 2012, 06:18:07 PM
Mine:

Ab Aeterno
Walkabout
The Incident (Great album too)
Jughead
Mr. Eko's episodes


there's a lot






TRICIA TANAKA IS DEAD
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 25, 2012, 06:21:46 PM
The End.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 26, 2012, 02:42:26 AM
Looking at some you guys posted, I think it's clear that Lost has many really good episodes. What blew me away when it comes to Lost is how good some of the characters were. Perhaps not all of them, but some were just incredible.  :hefdaddy
Also, I thought I would pop in with another update.

19. Two For the Road - Season 2, Episode 20 (Ana Lucia-centric)
(https://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/103/1034902/lost-twofortheroad_1255535708.jpg)

Let me just start off by saying that I really loved Season 2. Many people hold the first season over it, but I really like the stories they explored in the second season. The Others, Benjamin Linus (before we knew his name) and obviously the hatch. This episode was one of the standouts for me personally, and I think it managed to build up lots of suspense.
"Two For the Road" is an Ana Lucia-centric episode, and in flashbacks we get to see her travel with Christian (Jack's dad) to Australia and do some work as his bodyguard. On the island she is interrogating "Henry Gale" (who later turns out to be Benjamin Linus). Michael Emerson is truly one of my favorite actors in Lost, and he owns every second that he's on screen. The big question regarding "who is this stranger, and what is his agenda?" was the big headscratcher towards the second half of season 2, and after the following 4 seasons, Benjamin Linus still remains one of the best characters in a tv-show. In some scenes he almost has you convinced that he is not bad at all, that he is in fact good, but there's also something lurking, and I think he showed glimpses of it in this episode, especially when he attacks Ana Lucia.

The big twist at the end is arguably one of the better ones throughout the second season. Michael offers to kill Henry Gale, but instead pulls the trigger on Ana Lucia and Libby, and sets Henry free. Before this episode, Michael had been gone for a while, and I thought he acted strange when he got back, but it was still a huge surprise to see him go all out crazy like this. Later on, we got to see what actually happened with him when he went with The Others, something that explained his actions in this episode.
I remember the frustration after seeing this episode. Why did Michael do it? I still wanted to know who the stranger was, and the event at the end certainly had a big outcome for several reasons: Jack and people around him had already started doubting Henry, but this was the final proof that something was wrong. Hurley, who had started developing feelings for Libby had an emotional trigger, and this event was important because of how his character developed afterwards.

In the end I just think this is a damn good episode from the second season. Arguably could have ended up higher because of what happens on the island, but I think what drags it down slightly (and by that I mean just slightly) was the fact that Ana Lucia was never one of my favorite characters. Her flashbacks in this episode are interesting though, and the little glimpse you get of Sawyer was pretty cool.

Anyhow, will be back with another update later today. :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 26, 2012, 02:58:32 AM
Great episode. I also loved season 2 and the introduction of Henry Gale/the hatch/the others, etc. Ana Lucia always really bothered me though...
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: RuRoRul on June 26, 2012, 03:04:46 AM
Cool to see Across The Sea. It does have some big flaws as an episode but it was one of my favourites from Season 6. Don't really get why so many people hated it (unless they were expecting some scientific answers or something), it was the episode that interested me the most in the final season.

Exodus and Walkabout must be up there  :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on June 26, 2012, 03:14:36 AM
Yeah i love this show but it's been a while sinces i finished the show so some episodes are a bit fuzzy but hey.....perfect time for a rerun!!  :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 26, 2012, 03:35:41 AM
I'll definitely be following this. This show used to grab me by the guts and take hold of my head and I loved watching everything of it, so I basically know all the episodes by heart. It will be interesting to see someone else's take on the episodes, since I believe I have my own top 20 somewhere as well.

Anyway, definite inclusions should be Walkabout, The Constant and Through The Looking Glass.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 26, 2012, 08:50:47 AM
Cool to see some appreciation for this great tv-show. I will neither confirm or deny if some of the episodes mentioned will be on my list, so you will just have to wait and see I guess. :P I thought that I would update with the next pick now. Then I'll be busy for a few hours, but will most likely post another one tonight.
Anyhow, here's number 18!

18. Pilot - Season 1, Episode 1 & 2 (Jack, Kate and Charlie-centric)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_odIpZKMGCf4/TPFN2mdWMPI/AAAAAAAAAUo/87hUMiFrQpc/s400/lost+pilot+part+one.jpg)

So for this next pick, I decided to go with the Pilot-episode. It's technically two episodes, from what I understand it was aired as two different episodes in the states, but here it was aired as one, and the episode I have on my computer also has both episodes together, so I'm gonna count them as one. If it counts as cheating or not, that is another question.  :lol
For a pilot-episode, this one has a lot going on. First off we have the plane crash, all the drama and chaos that follows. Jack is immediately put in a form of "leader"-role, and it's a tricky situation. Lots of stuff happening and it's quite chaotic.
We get the first glimpse of the Smoke Monster in this episode, though we don't get to actually see it. However, this started one of the first big questions regarding the show, what is the monster? I'll admit that I expected some form of dinosaur at first, but I'm glad that they went with something more odd.

In the second part we get to learn more about the characters, and Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Charlie, Shannon and Boone tries to locate the transceiver, and they discover a polar-bear, another big WTF-moment.  :lol We also get the mystery at the end with the french woman (Rousseau) speaking at the end. All in all I think this episode offers a lot from different aspects. We get several interesting questions, like the mysteries I mentioned. We also get to learn a bit about the characters, seeing as Lost has a big cast with several characters, it's really job well done when they're able to introduce so many characters. Normally I'd say that Pilots and first seasons in general can be tough for me to like, because a lot of the time is focused on introducing the characters and the setting, rather than having interesting plots, but in the case with Lost I think it works very well.
I think the biggest strength of this pilot is that there's a lot of stuff going on, so it keeps you interested throughout the whole episode.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 26, 2012, 09:51:56 AM
Looking back, the pilot really was the start of something special. What impresses me about it is that even then, I could feel just how special Lost  would be. It felt very grand, and cinematic. Definitely a great way to kick off the show!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 26, 2012, 10:19:00 AM
I have the Pilot even higher, probably in the top 10. About the best possible way to start off a show. Awesome.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 26, 2012, 11:55:22 AM
Through the looking glass on 1.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 26, 2012, 01:19:18 PM
Okay, I'm here with the last update for today. I will probably have 2 or 3 new updates tomorrow though, so no worries. I know it's not really a rush, but I like to have a fairly high pace, rather that than drifting off halfway through a list and forgetting to update etc. :P
This next pick might also be unusual, but my pick for number 17:

17. Dr. Linus - Season 6, Episode 7 (Ben-centric)
(https://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/lost-linus1.jpg)

One of the episodes where I really realised how much I appreciate Michael Emerson's performance as Ben Linus. Apart from the very last scene when the submarine emerges (the CGI really isn't the best there), I loved everything about this episode. It added great depth to the character of Ben, but also lots of other interesting things going on.
The main focus is the alternative timeline (or afterlife) where Ben works as a teacher at a school, and we get to see Alex again which was a really nice thing, even if it was just in the other "life" so to speak. Ben tries to go after the principal-position, but later steps back, because he wants Alex to be able to go to a good school. This subplot might be done several times before, but it works because of good actors, and again.. Michael Emerson really shines. It's also nice to see Rousseau and Locke play minor parts, and I really dug the part where Ben's dad talked about how they had left the island and the Dharma Initiative, another part in the tv-show where you wasn't quite sure if this alternative life took shape right next to the original timeline, or as we later found out, in the afterlife.

Back on the island there's a lot going on. Chaos at the temple where Ben, Ilana, Miles, Sun and Frank escape from the Smoke Monster, and Ilana later finds out that Ben killed Jacob, which has consequences. The Man in Black later tries to recruit Ben, but he stays with the group. He tells Ilana about why he killed Jacob, and I thought that was a really nice moment. Ben is certainly a hard character to pinpoint, what his motives are, and why he acts a certain way, but that scene really provided a bit insight on that part, and all in all I think the episode itself added to the Ben-character.
This episode also has the interesting scenes when Jack and Hurley meet up with Richard, who takes them to the Black Rock, and Richard wants to commit suicide. Richard has always been one of the most interesting characters on the island for me, and it was really nice to have more scenes with him, learning a little something every time.

To sum it up, this episode didn't perhaps take the story much forward or have many twists, but it had great performances and gave several of the characters more depth. The performance of Michael Emerson alone made this episode something special.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: PuffyPat on June 26, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
Great list so far. All good episodes. Maybe not my favorites, but you're still in the beginning stages, so it makes sense. Definitely following.

Also, this list has inspired me to re-watch Lost from the beginning. So glad that it's all on instant.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 26, 2012, 02:14:52 PM
Michael Emerson was the best actor in the show, and Ben was one of the more interesting and complex characters as well.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Dimitrius on June 26, 2012, 02:40:36 PM
I really liked that one episode that ended on a cliff hanger.


Oh oh, I also liked the episode where Jack got angry, ignored everyone's rational advice and instead decided to beat someone up....while breathing heavily.


Another favorite is the one where Sawyer insults everyone yet still gets the girls.

And we can't forget the one where Kate is useless.
Holy shit you love those too?!?!?!

I loved that one from season 2 where Michael says "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!" and "WHERE'S MY SON?!?!"
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Adami on June 26, 2012, 02:57:49 PM
I really liked that one episode that ended on a cliff hanger.


Oh oh, I also liked the episode where Jack got angry, ignored everyone's rational advice and instead decided to beat someone up....while breathing heavily.


Another favorite is the one where Sawyer insults everyone yet still gets the girls.

And we can't forget the one where Kate is useless.
Holy shit you love those too?!?!?!

I loved that one from season 2 where Michael says "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!" and "WHERE'S MY SON?!?!"


Nothing quite tops the acting ability of the people from lost than WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 27, 2012, 02:05:22 AM
Time for another update!  :angel:

16. Jughead - Season 5, Episode 3 (Desmond-centric)
(https://www.edhumphries.com/wp-content/uploads/jughead3.jpg)

Next up we have a Desmond-centric episode. Desmond always was one of my favorite characters in this tv-show. Unlike several other characters he wasn't that complex or had hidden agendas, but he was just a straight down lovable character. We could all feel for him, being on the island for so long, and being away from his love, Penny. He always added charm to his scenes with great quotes like "See you in another life brother", and his magic powers were also very interesting to follow. The Desmond-centric episodes often lead to some head scratching and you needed to follow them closely and pay attention to the little details, but in the end they were often very rewarding, and among the best episodes.

"Jughead" is the third episode in the fifth season. If you're having a hard time separating the fourth and the fifth season (I've seen some people with this problem), the fifth season is the one with all the time travelling. In the future-timeline, Desmond tries to locate Daniel Faraday's mother, in order to find a way to stop the time-travelling from happening. He goes to Oxford-university and is surprised when he finds very little proof that Daniel Faraday had been there.
Meanwhile back on the island, time jumps back and forth. Juliet, Locke and Sawyer interrogate some Dharma Initiative-guys, and later stumbles upon a young Charles Widmore. Locke later meets up with Richard, and tells him to visit Locke after he has been born. The other gang, consisting of the freighter-people (Miles, Daniel and Charlotte) finds a hydrogen-bomb, which Daniel disarms. Daniel Faraday may have been one of the minor main-characters of s4/s5, but I really liked his character. Perhaps a bit weird at times, but the heart at the right place, and just a very easy person to like. Jeremy Davies (who plays him) does a really good job, otherwise I have to give the credit to Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond) who steals the show. He's just such a great actor, and his portrayal of Desmond is bound to go down in history as one of the most likeable characters in a tv-show.

All in all I really like this episode. The time-travelling was a bit tricky to get used to at first, but I was always very interested in learning more about the Dharma Initiative and their time on the island, and we get to do that a lot in Season 5. It's really nice to see how some things have changed on the island over the years, but still seeing Richard looking like he always does.
Season 5 overall was fairly solid, but this was one of the standouts for me.  :)

Will probably be back with an update in 6-7 hours or so.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 27, 2012, 05:44:10 AM
Jughead is amazing. Nice pick, one of my absolute favourites.

Here's me hoping you have Dead is Dead, The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham and The Shape of Things to Come is your top as well. :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 27, 2012, 10:40:52 AM
Jughead is amazing indeed.  :D Okay, back with the second update for today. If I have time I'll squeeze another one in before I go to sleep later tonight.

15. The Man From Tallahassee - Season 3, Episode 13 (Locke-centric)
(https://images.wikia.com/lost/images/f/fb/The_Man_from_Tallahassee.jpg)

Next up, we have a Locke-centric episode. Together with Ben, Desmond and Richard, Locke was always one of my favorite characters. It's very easy to feel sympathy for him because of what he has been through, and his episodes were always a bit difficult to watch because they were very emotional. This episode confirmed what had already been speculated about, and a question that people had been asking for several years before this episode; "how did John Locke end up in a wheelchair?". I often see people say negative things about the third season, but I really enjoyed it myself. With that said, this episode came out right in time so to speak. The following episode; "Exposé" was the one that focused on Nikki and Paulo (two of the more useless characters in the tv-show), and the episode before this one; "Par Avion" was centric around Claire, frankly I didn't think much of that episode.
So while I think S3 started out strong and ended strong, there was a short run of episodes around this one that didn't particularly stand out, so when I saw this one it really stood out. By the time I had gotten to S3, Locke had already become a favorite, and I was always looking forward to his centric episodes, because they always delivered.

The flashbacks focus on the time after Locke has separated from Helen. It's very tough for him to adjust to the normal life again, and he gets into a depression. A young man shows up and asks questions about Locke's father, and he tells him that Locke's father is marrying his mother, for the money. Locke confronts his father about this, and says that he has to pull out of the whole thing. When this young man turns up dead, the police comes and asks Locke some questions. When Locke goes to his father to confront him about all of this, he is charged out of the window, resulting in him becoming paralysed. (We later on get to see how Jacob touches him, and how it brings him back)
Back on the island we have the gang who have gone to Dharmaville to bring back Jack, only to find him playing football with the Others, seeming happy. Some of the gang is later captured by the Others, and Jack explains how he has made a deal to help Ben, and that he will get to leave the island. Locke later blows up the submarine, telling Jack that he is sorry for doing so. We also get the cliffhanger near the end where Locke's father is shown being in captive on the island.

Overall I liked this episode because it had a great story in the flashbacks. The story on the island is also interesting, back in season 3 I was really excited when we got interaction between the normal gang and the Others, learning more about the latter. I was also quite happy when the submarine got blown up, to me that would have been an easy way to get off the island. I must also take the time to praise Terry O'Quinn for his portrayal of John Locke. He's just such a good actor, and he really shines in almost every scene that takes a more emotional approach. The scene when he gets pushed out the window was really hard for me to watch, because I just felt sorry for the guy. He's been through a lot with his dad, but seeing a father doing something like that to a son, it's always emotional.

 :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 27, 2012, 11:17:22 AM
The submarine being blown up and finally learning how Locke couldn't walk again were turning points in the series. Another stellar episode, which really made the hatred towards Locke's father even greater. The way they resolved this in The Brig was fantastic imho, with the Sawyer/Cooper scene being one of my favourites from the entire show. The buildup towards finally getting rid of that man was amazing, as was Holloway's acting in that particular scene. But that's all a different episode, might be you'll have that in as well :)

Anyway, great pick, one of the better episodes from Season 3 definitely.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 27, 2012, 03:46:30 PM
Yeah I agree with pretty much everything you said. Also, time for another update:

14. A Tale of Two Cities, Season 3, Episode 1 (Jack-centric)
(https://chud.com/articles/content_images/30/LostS3Ep1_01.jpg)

So go downtown, things'll be great when you're
Downtown - no finer place, for sure
Downtown - everything's waiting for you


Episode kicks off right away by introducing the new character Juliet. She prepares for a book club meeting, in which there is a heated argument. Shortly afterwards a huge rumbling sound is heard, the characters rush out and we see our classic Oceanic Flight 815 fly over, and it is quickly revealed that this suburban village is located on the island itself.
The ending of season two was great. I really liked it, and it had me on suspense for the start of the third season. These first minutes of the episode were gold to me, seeing a friggin ordinary village located ON the island itself. Obviously we all knew that the Others had some camp or home, but I don't think anyone expected this.
We also get a nice backstory for when Ben sends out Goodwin and Ethan to infiltrate both camps, and it's quite refreshing to see the Others´ point of view for once.

The flashbacks in this episode are Jack-centric, and we get to see him go through the divorce from his wife Sarah. She has a new man in her life, and Jack suspects that it is his father, and there's a big confrontation about it. Back on the island most of the focus is on Sawyer, Kate and Jack who are all held prisoners on Hydra Island. Generally there might not be a lot going on, but I still found this episode to be really interesting and good, because we got a lot of the Others-time. Before season 3 we had only seen brief glimpses of them, and a bit more towards the end, but by this time I was really interested in learning more about them. What was their agenda, and why had they kidnapped Sawyer, Kate and Jack? I was also very interested to see Henry Gale (or Ben Linus) again, because we learned from the finale of s2 that he was some form of leader.

So to sum it up, perhaps not loads of things happening, but very exciting seeing most of it from the Others´ point of view, and learning more about them. Also seeing how they lived on the island, finding out that there were more stations and so on.

 
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: PuffyPat on June 27, 2012, 04:06:40 PM
I don't get all the season three hate. It's probably my favorite.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 27, 2012, 07:54:05 PM
All great episodes, especially Jughead. Desmond is, without a doubt, one of the most likable characters in Lost. Of course... there were so many likable characters!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 28, 2012, 02:42:19 AM
PuffyPat @ I agree, season 3 was really good. I don't get all the hate either.

senecadawg2 @ Yeah, whenever I think about Lost, I think about how many good characters it had. People were often quick to criticize some in a bad way (I know that Kate and Charlie had quite some haters), but when a tv-show has that many characters, and several of them are done so well, it's tough not to be amazed.

Also, time for the next episode on my list. :)

13. Exodus - Season 1, Episode 23/24 (Various people)
(https://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/929/929689/lost_1226611418.jpg)

Technically two (or three) episodes, but seeing as they're all named "Exodus" and the season final was pretty long, this makes it easier IMO. :P By the time we got to the season finale of the first season, there was a lot going on. The episode kicks off by Rousseau arriving at the camp to warn Jack and the gang about the Others. She tells them about how her daughter was kidnapped, and soon there is a black pillar of smoke rising in the distance. Some of the survivors are working on building the raft, meanwhile Jack and a few others head out to the Black Rock to get dynamite, in order to blow up the hatch and have a saferoom. On the way they come across the Smoke Monster, and Rousseau tells them that it's some kind of security system on the island.
In flashbacks we get to see the survivors and the last hours before the crash, Jack meets Ana Lucia in the bar at the airport, we also have the funny scene when Sayid comes up to Shannon and asks her to watch his bag for a few minutes, and when he's gone she goes to the security guard and tells him that "the arab-guy left his bag unattended".  :lol

Now to the second part of the episode. We finally get to see the Black Rock for the first time, and it is revealed to be a big ship. Personally I believed that it was some form of black rock at first, and that it was some form of hidden cave or something. When they're bringing back dynamite, Dr. Artz manages to get himself blown up, and the gang encounter the Smoke Monster again. It tries to drag Locke down a hole, but Jack and Kate manages to cause a diversion with some dynamite.
Back at camp, Rousseau arrives and takes Aaron, which causes a chaotic situation. Sayid and Charlie goes after her, and they first encounter the smugglers airplane in the jungle, where Sayid finds tons of heroin. They later catch up with her and manage to get Aaron back, and they also accuse her for making up the Others, and lighting the pyre herself.
Now, this is when the episode gets really awesome and cliffhanger-ish. The gang blows up the hatch and stairs down the long hole. Out on the raft, Sawyer, Michael, Walt and Jin manages to pick up a signal. They fire their flaregun and a boat approaches. The gang feels so relieved seeing another boat, and they are happy about it. Things take a quick twist though when the people on the boat are revealed to be the Others, and they take Walt and blow up the raft. The finale really leaves you hanging.

So yeah, lots of stuff going on in this finale. So many good scenes in this one, it's hard to pick standouts. BUT, I will say that the last 5-10 minutes or so are my favorites in this episode. The gang blowing up the hatch, and leaving the question "whats down there?" and what happens at the raft. The raft-scene where Walt gets kidnapped is probably one of my favorite scenes throughout all of season 1. It's really the first time we get to see anyone from the Others, and it's just executed in such a great way. Also the first appearance for Tom Friendly. This episode really leaves you hanging from the cliff. :P

More updates later!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Ravenheart on June 28, 2012, 03:10:42 AM
Great to see this! Great picks so far. Lost is probably my favorite show ever.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 28, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Cool to see you follow it, Zander.  :tup
Time for my next update:

12. The Man Behind the Curtain - Season 3, Episode 20 (Ben-centric)
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Next up we have another season 3 episode, this time the first Ben-centric episode if we count chronologically. I can only speak for myself, but this was an episode I was really looking forward to. Ben was one of the characters that had created both love and hate among viewers, and being a complex person, it was interesting to see how they would tackle an episode revolving around him. This episode really gives us the origins of Ben, we get to see when he is born, and we get to see when Ben and his father arrives to the Island 7 years later, where Roger (Ben's dad) will work for the Dharma Initiative. Ben has trouble adjusting to the life on the island, and has flashes of his dead mother. He runs off into the jungle and meets Richard, a scene I really liked because anything with Nestor Carbonell as Richard is good in my eyes.
Later we get to see Ben much older, having a conversation with his father. Roger still blames Ben for the death of Ben's mother, and this is something Ben have lived with through his childhood and growing up. He gets angry and kills his father, and he later returns to the Dharma Initiative where all the people have been killed. Ben meets up with Richard and the Others.

Back on the present timeline, on the island, Locke arrives at the Others´ camp with the body of his dead father. He confronts Ben and wants to learn more about the island, and this is when Richard tells Locke about Jacob, and that he is the leader. Mikhail stumbles in at the camp and warns them about the parachuting stranger who has landed on the island, which triggers Ben and Locke to go out and meet Jacob. On the way back, Ben takes Locke to the Dharma-massgrave and shoots him, and leaves him to die.
At the beach there's not as much happening, but people are plotting up against Juliet due to a tape-recording, but when Jack and Juliet returns she tells them to play the other side of the tape, which has Ben's plan on it. This is important for the following episodes when the Others attack the beach.

Biggest plus for this episode goes out to interesting flashbacks, seeing Ben's past really helped explaining some on how he turned out the way he did. While Michael Emerson isn't as featured (due to many scenes taking place when he was younger), the scenes he is featured in, he really shines. Nestor Carbonell plays Richard as good as ever, and Terry O'Quinn gives a good performance as Locke, wanting to learn more about the truth. While it is a Ben-centric episode, these three characters are probably the most important ones for driving the episode further, all in all one of the best episodes of S3.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: chrisbDTM on June 28, 2012, 08:36:45 AM
i might have that one in my top 5. the only disapointment i have with the show is how jacob turned out. this episode with the cabin was SICK, then the jacob thing went downhill the more they revealed about him
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Post by: PuffyPat on June 28, 2012, 01:13:12 PM
i might have that one in my top 5. the only disapointment i have with the show is how jacob turned out. this episode with the cabin was SICK, then the jacob thing went downhill the more they revealed about him

I completely agree with the Jacob thing. Originally it was such a cool thing, but when they started making him a more physical character things got out of hand. While what they did wasn't necessarily the worst thing that could have been done, there were definitely much better things that they could have done with Jacob.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: HarlequinForest on June 28, 2012, 02:24:21 PM
Across the Sea is my least favorite episode in the entire series!  Still interested in seeing your other picks.
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Post by: Zantera on June 28, 2012, 02:28:01 PM
Yeah I agree with both of you. While I liked S6 and didn't mind that much what they did with Jacob and the Man in Black, somehow Jacob felt more "epic" like in S3 when they go to the cabin. It was much more mysterious and interesting. Who the hell was Jacob? And then when we had the answer, it wasn't quite what we had expected.

11. Outlaws - Season 1, Episode 16 (Sawyer-centric)
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Next up we have a Sawyer-centric episode, "Outlaws" from the second half of season 1. While Sawyer was always a hilarious character with lots of great moment, I felt like his centric-episodes rarely were as good as they could have been. He's a great character, but often the focus was put on his tough exterior, rather than exploring what kind of person he was underneath. This episode is an exception though, not only would I say that it's his best centric-episode, but also the fact that it ranks in as nr.11 on my list says something.
The flashbacks revolve around Sawyer and his quest to find the real Sawyer, the man responsible for breaking apart his family. He gets a tip that the real Sawyer will be in Sydney, so he travels there and buys a gun. During his visit at a bar he encounters Christian Shephard (Jack's dad) and they have a discussion. This scene is just great, back in season 1 I really loved it when they had characters appearing in other characters´ flashbacks. (that sounds way more messy than how it is)
Sawyer goes to confront who he believes is the real Sawyer, and he pulls the trigger of his gun. As the man dies, Sawyer learns that this was not the man he was looking for, and that he was actually sent to do the dirty work.

Back on the island, Sawyer goes out on a boar-hunt. Sawyer also hears the whispers in the jungle that Sayid talked about earlier, so when Sawyer returns to the camp he asks Sayid about it. Sawyer finally catches up with the boar, but decides not to kill it. Instead he gives Jack the gun, which results in Jack having all the weapons. During a conversation, Jack says the classic phrase "and that's why the Sox will never win the Series" (earlier used by his father), which makes Sawyer realize that the man he met in Sydney was actually Jack's dad.
This episode was perhaps more "Straightforward". Not tons of stuff happening, but instead focusing on the two different plots revolving Sawyer. I think this is one of the strengths of the episode, it's very easy to follow but it also grabs you. Sawyer has some funny scenes, but he also has some more serious scenes, and it's great to see more about his past.
Sawyer was always one of the funnier characters (who could forget all his nicknames?), but here he also gets to shine in some more emotional scenes, and Josh Holloway really gives a good performance as Sawyer.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 28, 2012, 02:29:55 PM
i might have that one in my top 5. the only disapointment i have with the show is how jacob turned out. this episode with the cabin was SICK, then the jacob thing went downhill the more they revealed about him

I completely agree with the Jacob thing. Originally it was such a cool thing, but when they started making him a more physical character things got out of hand. While what they did wasn't necessarily the worst thing that could have been done, there were definitely much better things that they could have done with Jacob.

very true
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Post by: senecadawg2 on June 28, 2012, 02:32:43 PM
Another great character and episode.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Ravenheart on June 28, 2012, 03:25:16 PM
I rather liked Jacob being a physical, real character. His overall motives and true intentions still remain somewhat elusive, and it adds a very human, flawed side to his plan that still ended in many characters experiencing death and heartbreak.

It's kind of tragic re-watching the series and realizing that most of what people (such as Locke and Ben) perceived to be Jacob was really the MiB's "long con" that ultimately ended in the realization that both Ben and Locke were pawns. Locke's martyrdom essentially saved the island (and the world), though, so his destiny was still fulfilled while fitting in with his own very tragic and pitiful life story.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 28, 2012, 03:45:30 PM
This might be a good time for me to admit that I never really understood the ending. Especially watching it all as it aired on TV, I was super confused through the last couple seasons. Particularly with the MiB and Jacob.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 28, 2012, 03:46:41 PM
Exodus and The man Behind the Curtain are both brilliant episodes. Outlaws was good for what it was, but I wouldn't put it that high.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 28, 2012, 03:47:17 PM
I want to keep up with this thread but really scared to read posts other than the episode posts since I am only at season 5.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 28, 2012, 03:48:40 PM
You don't want to be spoiled, I assure you.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 28, 2012, 03:55:26 PM
I want to keep up with this thread but really scared to read posts other than the episode posts since I am only at season 5.

Well, you can always read the choice since that's the "headline" anyway, and if it's a s5 or s6 episode you haven't seen, then just don't read more. :P
Also, will probably have time to post 3 more updates tomorrow.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 29, 2012, 01:50:14 AM
Alright, time to enter my top 10. And we start it with this episode: (also Sander it has some spoilers so be warned)

10. The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham - Season 5, Episode 7 (Locke-centric)
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First episode in my top 10, is the high quality episode; "The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham" from the fifth season. This episode is in the first half of the season, and interestingly enough this is the last time we get to see the real Locke, alive and all. When the episode starts it is some time after the crash of Ajira Airways Flight 316, that took off in the previous episode. The plane has crashed on Hydra Island, the two minor characters, Caesar and Ilana are having a discussion about a man nobody has seen on the plane, that has been found. (referring to Locke) Locke explains that the last thing he remembers is dying.
The flashforwards focus on what happens to Locke after he turns the wheel in the episode; "This Place Is Death" two episodes earlier. After turning the wheel, Locke wakes up in a desert, and he is soon taken to a local hospital, where Charles Widmore comes to visit him. Widmore wants Locke to reunite the Oceanic Six (Jack, Kate, Sayid, Sun, Hugo and Aaron) and bring them back to the island. This is also when Locke gets the fake identity, "Jeremy Bentham".

At first, Kate, Hurley and Sayid all refuse going back to the island. Locke also visits Walt, and it's quite cool to see him again. Locke finds out that his old girlfriend Helen has died, and when he goes to the grave he ends up being shot at, so he drives away in panic only to crash the car. When he wakes up at the hospital, Jack is there. They talk about the island, and Locke tells Jack that Jack's dad is alive and well at the island, which makes Jack upset. Sensing that his work has been for nothing, Locke comes up with a drastic plan, to hang himself. It's possible that the death of him will reunite the gang. When he's right in the middle of doing it, Ben arrives. Locke tells about the plan to Ben, and explain about reuniting the Oceanic Six, and that Eloise at the Lamp Post will enable them to go back to the island. After this, Ben kills Locke and makes it look like a suicide. He also takes Jin's wedding ring which Locke was entrusted with by Jin himself. The episode ends with Locke (on the island) finding Ben among the passed out survivors.

Where to start with analysing this episode? It was just really good. So many interesting parts, I especially liked the flashforwards of the Oceanic-people, and seeing their lives cross out in the "ordinary". Seeing Locke trying to bring these people together was interesting, and the scene where Ben kills Locke has to be one of the more emotional and toughest scenes to watch, seeing such a beloved character die and all. That scene stood out as being really amazing, and that in an episode which was amazing overall. The flashforwards also gave us some understanding as for why the Oceanic Six did return to the island, but it also made me confused as to why Locke had died, and then being alive again on the island, but this is something we understood in S6. :P
Just a great episode overall, and my favorite episode from season 5.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 29, 2012, 03:15:32 AM
What an amazing episode. Season 5 had some of their best, forreal.

Ones I think will be in your top 10 (no order):

The End
Walkabout
The Constant
Ab Aeterno

I can't think of anymore right now.

I swear to fuck if Stranger in a Strange Land is in here..
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Ravenheart on June 29, 2012, 03:33:13 AM
This might be a good time for me to admit that I never really understood the ending. Especially watching it all as it aired on TV, I was super confused through the last couple seasons. Particularly with the MiB and Jacob.

I've rewatched the series twice while reading various articles on Lostpedia, and it's helped me come to a greater understanding of the show as a whole.

Yeah, I know, it's probably more devotion to a TV show than necessary, but it was fun coming to what (I think) was a more concrete comprehension of what I was viewing on-screen.


The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham is orgasmic.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: jonny108 on June 29, 2012, 06:00:16 AM
Great idea for a top 20. All wonderful choices so far.  Love Outlaws, Sawyer and the boar were hilarious.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 29, 2012, 08:30:06 AM
Great! :) Next up we have:

9. Ab Aeterno - Season 6, Episode 9 (Richard-centric)
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The only Richard-centric episode there is, not only one of the best episodes in the sixth season, but one of the best episodes overall. I can't even begin to describe how psyched I was for this episode before I saw it. Richard was always one of the most interesting characters, and one of the reasons were because of how little we knew about him. He had always been there, in flashbacks, in flashforwards, being on the island during the Dharma-iniative times, but also during the Oceanic 815 crash times, looking the same. This episode would solve so many questions, when did Richard become "immortal", and how did he end up on the island? What was his story, his motives, and just about everything else. This episode is also unique in the way that it doesn't take place during several time frames, almost the whole episode focuses on Richard's story of how he ended up on the island, and what happened to him. And I think this is one of the best parts, that they don't rush it and have a few flashbacks here and there, but instead tells the story without interruptions.

In 1867, Ricardo lives with his wife in Tenerife. He comes home and finds his wife very sick, and since they live pretty remote, this causes problems. Ricardo rides off on his horse to find the nearest village with a doctor. This is a time when medicine is very expensive, and the doctor says he wont help Ricardo because he doesn't have enough money. They struggle over the medicine, and Ricardo accidentally kills the doctor. Ricardo's wife dies, and he gets arrested for the crime he has committed. In prison he's sentenced to get hanged, but is able to get out of it due to his ability of being able to speak English, and instead he is taken as a slave on board a ship, the Black Rock. During the journey, the ship is caught in a violent storm, and it smashes through a big statue on an island that we are very familiar with, and this also gives us the explanation as for what happened with the statue.

The following day, Ricardo wakes up and is immediately thrown into chaos when the Smoke Monster attacks the guards on the ship, killing everyone on board except for Ricardo himself. A few days pass, and the Man in Black appears, and frees Ricardo. He tells him that he must kill Jacob, and that Jacob is the devil. He also tells Ricardo that if he follows this, then he will see his wife again, and they will be reunited, and able to leave the island. When Ricardo goes to kill Jacob he is quickly overpowered by Jacob, who then explains the function of the island. Ricardo agrees to become Jacob's representative on the island, in exchange for immortality. Ricardo is later given the necklace of his wife by the Man in Black, who tells him that his offer still stands if he would change his mind. Ricardo buries the necklace.
Back in 2007, Richard goes to the burial-place. He shouts that he has changed his mind, and wonders if the offer still stands. Instead of getting a response, he is surprised when Hurley shows up. Hurley starts using his ability to communicate with the dead, in order to talk between Richard and his dead wife, explaining that Richard's wife wants Richard to stop the Man in Black. Richard changes his mind, and knows that he has to stop the Man in Black.

Where to start with this one? Nestor Carbonell. His performance in this episode is just brilliant. His portrayal of Richard is just gripping, and it's very easy to feel for the guy. His wife is taken away from him, and his whole life just breaks down in a few moments. It's very easy to understand his temptation to join the Man in Black, even though Richard is good inside, he has very little to live for, and his wife meant everything to him. His performance is very emotional, and being a more "minor" character normally, he shows that he is good enough to be the centre of an episode. The story is very interesting overall, we had hints before the episode, like the Man in Black telling Richard something like "nice to see you out of those chains", and also a lot of speculations about Jacob granting Richard immortality, things we got answered here. It was also nice seeing how the Black Rock indeed ended up on the island, and how it smashed the statue.
Apart from Richard being brilliant, I really enjoyed Titus Welliver and Mark Pellegrino as the Man in Black and Jacob. Their scenes were really good in this episode. While I can understand some disappointment for their scenes in "Across the Sea", I thought their scenes in this episode were more interesting.
All in all just a brilliant episode, emotionally gripping but also very exciting. One of the best episodes in S6, but also one of the best overall.

Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 29, 2012, 10:05:56 AM
Awesome episode, Richard always intrigued me. The biggest mystery of all: was he wearing mascara?
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Post by: PuffyPat on June 29, 2012, 10:40:16 AM
That was definitely one of my favorite episodes. I would say that it is probably have it in my top 5.
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Post by: Zook on June 29, 2012, 10:48:20 AM
Could a wooden boat really destroy a statue and remain intact AND get that far on the island?
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Ravenheart on June 29, 2012, 10:50:30 AM
Love this episode.

Could a wooden boat really destroy a statue and remain intact AND get that far on the island?

I think the hurricane/storm/tsunami was actually what caused both. That was the impression I got anyway.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 29, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
What a great way to start of your top 10. Bentham would be in my 20 most likely, but not in the top 10, but Ab Aeterno would certainly be among the best.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 29, 2012, 03:30:55 PM
Thanks for the feedback.  :tup I thought I would pop in with the last update for today, and reveal number 8.

8. Orientation - Season 2, Episode 3 (Locke-centric)
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Next up on the list we have another Locke-centric episode, and one of the early episodes of the second season, the third episode, "Orientation". The start of season 2 was phenomenal in my opinion, and this is one of the episodes that really stood out. We had already been introduced to the Dharma-bunker, or the Swan station if you prefer that. We had already been introduced to Desmond, but the curiosity about the station's purpose and the mystery behind the numbers: "4 8 15 16 23 42" were yet to be answered.

In flashbacks we get to follow Locke in a difficult time of his life. He's participating in a support-group where he meets Helen for the first time, and they get romantically involved. However, Locke is haunted by the actions of his father, and often parks his car outside his father's house, just sitting there looking at it. One night when he does this, his father comes out and confronts him, and tells him that he isn't wanted. As time passes, Helen and Locke's relationship is getting stronger, and to celebrate 6 months together, Helen gives Locke the key to her house, on the condition that he stops stalking his father. Locke agrees to this, but is unable to hold his word, and Helen confronts him about this. She wants Locke to take a leap of faith.

Back on the island, most of the story revolves around the Swan station and the numbers. Kate manages to disarm Desmond, but he manages to accidentally fire, and damages the computer in the process. With the clock counting down, Desmond informs Jack, Locke and Kate that unless they fix the computer, they will all die when the counter hits zero. While Kate goes to fetch Sayid, Desmond tells his story for the others, about how he ended up on the island, about the man who pushed the button before him, and that the numbers need to reset every 108 minutes, otherwise it will be "the end of the world".  Jack and Locke watches the (now) classic Orientation-video, where Dr. Marvin Candle explains about the station. While Jack thinks this is only some form of social experiment, Locke thinks they should believe it.
Desmond later runs off into the jungle, not wanting to have the button-duty anymore. When Jack follows him to confront him, Desmond recognizes him from before when they met at the stadium from flashbacks in "Man of Science, Man of Faith".
Sayid fixes the computer right before the counter has counted down. Locke tells Jack that he should push the button but he refuses, and Locke asks him to take a leap of faith. Jack pushes the button right before the counter is down, and it resets.
Across the island, Michael and Sawyer come across Jin who is chased by who he refers to as "the Others" (which we later find out is the tailsection survivors). The episode ends with a climax since we all wonder what will happen with these guys.

I'm not even sure where to begin. Lots of great stuff in this episode. The mysterious numbers, pushing the button, Desmond being Desmond. Seeing "the Others", though it wasn't them, but at the time I really thought it was.  :lol Lots of subtle things in this episode that I loved. For instance, how Locke tells Jack that he should "take a leap of faith", which was the same thing Helen told Locke in the flashbacks. Getting to know more about the Dharma-initiative, but also great flashbacks. Locke really shines in this episode, and the ending at the bunker really left us with a big question; "what happens if the counter reaches 0?", a question we would later find the answer to.
Season two started out phenomenal, and this was one of the episodes that really stood out.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 29, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
Hmm, I never really got the love for this episode. Yes, it does reveal some things, but on the other hand doesn't really and in fact leaves you with more questions. I don't know, I never thought it was that special. It did however start season 2 very well, but because that's probably also my least favourite season, I guess I never really took the time to fully appreciate this episode.

Then again, I'm one of those people that think Sundown (season 6) was one of the most awesome and badass episodes of the entire serie, but that one didn't really move the plot forward at all. A fine pick, I guess, though I definitely wouldn't rank it that high.

Also relevant: FOUR EIGHT FIFTEEN SIXTEEN TWENTY-THREE FORTY-TWO
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 30, 2012, 05:05:29 AM
Understandable that we wont agree on everything. While I really liked both S2 and S3 myself, I know both seasons have their share of dislikers as well. :P
Anyhow, next pick:

7. Deus Ex Machina - Season 1, Episode 19 (Locke-centric)
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Another Locke-episode? Yes you heard me. I've said it earlier, but apart from Locke being one of my favorite characters in Lost, I always loved his episodes. They were often some of the best written, and he is a character that I really felt for. He went through a lot, and it was quite emotional to see. This episode takes place before the previous pick, and is one of the latter episodes of the first season. "Deus Ex Machina" is not only a really good song by the progressive rock band Pure Reason Revolution, but in this case also a brilliant Lost-episode. By the time I had gotten this far in season 1, I was really looking forward to this episode, since Locke had become a favorite at the time.

In flashbacks we get to follow Locke in a time of his life before he was bald, and before he was in a wheelchair. Locke works in a store, and comes across a woman. He later sees this woman watching him in the parking lot, and when he confronts her, she reveals that she is his mother. While she doesn't want to say anything about Locke's father, he's able to do some digging and finally comes across Anthony Cooper, his real dad. When Locke visits his father he is welcomed, and they quickly develop a strong bond. Anthony takes Locke out for hunting, which happens several times.
One day when Locke arrives at his father's house, his father reveals that he isn't well, and that he needs a kidney. Locke is very taken by this whole situation and offers one of his kidneys to save his father's life. When Locke wakes up at the hospital after the surgery, his father has already signed out and abandoned him. It's all revealed to be one big scam, and when Locke goes to see his father, the guard denies him entry. As Locke drives away, he breaks down over this betrayal.

On the island, Locke and Boone are working really hard at opening the hatch. They've constructed some kind of device that will help them, but it fails to open the hatch. Locke has a vision about a plane crashing in the jungle, so he and Boone goes to look for it. Shortly after they find the smugglers plane crashed up in a tree. Locke has lost the ability to use his legs, so Boone goes up to search through the plane. While up there, Boone tries to send out a distress-call on the radio, but he actually manages to talk to the tailsection survivors (or was it the Others?) without knowing it. Shortly after, the plane falls down and Boone is badly injured. By summoning all his strength, Locke manages to carry Boone back to the caves and Jack, since Boone is in desperate need of medical help. Instead of staying around, Locke goes back to the hatch. He bangs it in agony, and suddenly it lights up.

Man, what an amazing episode this was. The flashbacks are among my favorites, the story about how Locke meets his father only to be betrayed is very moving, and it's quite emotional to see. Terry O'Quinn puts on a strong performance as Locke in this episode, and he's just brilliant in all scenes. This was the first episode co-written by Lindelof and Cuse I believe, and they went on to write many more fantastic episodes after this one.
This is also one of the last times we see Boone, a character that was never that exciting for me, but his death certainly affected many of the other characters. All in all just a fantastic episode, and it has some classics scenes, like when Locke goes to his father's house at the end, only to be denied access, later when he breaks down in the car, or the very last scene where the hatch lights up. Quality stuff.


Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2012, 05:41:02 AM
The best in Season 1, save for Walkabout and maybe the final. Great choice :)

My predictions for the remaining six:
- Walkabout
- Through the Looking Glass
- The Constant
- The Shape of Things to Come
- Happily Ever After / The Candidate (one or the other)
- The End

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And on a side note; I'm curious how you would rank the seasons. Can you show me? :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 30, 2012, 05:49:53 AM
Interesting guesses. :P Sure, but before I try to rank them, I consider them to be pretty even. The seasons I rank lower could just as easily have been higher, overall I think Lost has high lows.

Would probably rank the seasons something like this:

2
1
4
6
5
3

So while 3 is the lowest for example, I still really enjoyed it. It had some of the best episodes of Lost, but also a few episodes like "Exposé" which I didn't care for that much. What about your ranking? :P
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2012, 06:12:46 AM
Probably something like this:

4
1
5
6
3
2

I really loved the pace at which seasons 4 and 5 moved forward and the way some things were finally resolved. Season 1 is that high, because, well, it just is really good. I didn't realy like season 2 and season 3 had a lot of filler without progressing the storyline very much. Overall, I think season 4 has some of the best episodes, with The Constant, The Shape of Things to Come, Cabin Fever ( :heart, how did I forget this in my guesses!?) and There's No Place Like Home and Season 5 was really cool, because of the time-travelling madness. Six started out not very good but the resolve was awesome. 3 Had a little too much filler and 2 didn't really do it for me.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 30, 2012, 08:44:33 AM
So while 3 is the lowest for example, I still really enjoyed it. It had some of the best episodes of Lost, but also a few episodes like "Exposé" which I didn't care for that much.

but... but... I thought Exposé would be number one...  :'(
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2012, 08:52:36 AM
Exposé really isn't that bad. I thought it was a fun little episode that was different from others. The whodunit style of it and the cruelest death in all of Lost was pretty good in my opinion. Definitely not the worst lost episode and actually not close to being the worst either.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on June 30, 2012, 09:29:17 AM
It's not the worst, but on the other hand not one of the better either. I can definitely see what they were trying to do with Nikki and Paulo, there were lots of people involved in the crash, yet we had only seen the "core" people do things. I thought the ending of Exposé was quite good, but otherwise two characters I didn't really care for, and the episode didn't do much plotwise either.
It's alright I suppose. Not bad, but not one of the better either. :P
Also, Elite.. interesting how we both rank Season 2. I can see your view, personally there were lots of things that made me love it, like the whole Dharma-question with the Swan station, Ben Linus and his appearances in the second half, also seeing more of Tom Friendly and the Others. Also some Mr. Eko stuff.
Anyhow, time for another update:

6. The Shape of Things to Come - Season 4, Episode 9 (Ben-centric)
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The first season 4 episode to appear on the list. Now you're thinking "will there be more season 4 episodes?" and I'll just say this, you'll just have to wait and see.  :biggrin: Season 4 of Lost sticks out because it's the shortest season of the tv-show, only having 14 episodes. This season being shorter than the others is both good and bad, the good thing is that we have less filler episodes, and more stuff is happening. On the contrary, some things felt perhaps a tiny bit rushed. Nothing major, just the impression I had. Still, the season was really good, and for most people it was the best since S1 or S2.

"The Shape of Things to Come" is a Ben-centric episode, and the second Ben-centric episode chronologically. In the flashforwards, we get to follow what happens to Ben right after he has moved the island, which happens in the finale of season 4. (so we haven't actually seen it yet) He wakes up in the Sahara Desert, wearing a winter jacket. When two armed men shows up, he kills one of them and knocks the other one unconscious, and takes one of their horses. He then rides to the nearest village. Later we get to see Ben in Iraq, attending the funeral of Sayid's now dead wife, Nadia. When Sayid confronts him, he tells Sayid about a man that is responsible for killing her. Sayid proceeds to kill this man, and Ben later recruits Sayid as an assassin. Later we get to see Ben in London, showing up at Charles Widmore's place. Ben says that he wont kill Charles, but instead kill his daughter, Penny, in retribution for what happened with Alex. Just before Ben leaves, Charles says that the island is his, and that he will take it back.

Back on the island, the corpse of the doctor on the freighter washes ashore. When Faraday calls the freighter it is revealed that the doctor is actually fine, and when Jack push Faraday for answers, he reveals that the freighter was never sent there to pick up the survivors at all.
On the other side of the island, the gang of mercenaries led by Keamy has Alex held hostage. When they're taking her to Dharmaville, she sets off a silent alarm that warns Ben, Locke, Hugo and Sawyer that the mercenaries are coming.
When the mercenaries arrive, Keamy says that unless Ben walks out of the house, he will kill Alex. When Ben tries to negotiate, Keamy kills Alex, leaving Ben shocked.  Shortly after this, Ben rushes into a hidden room where he summons the Smoke Monster, which kills most of the mercenaries, with the other running into the forest.
The episode ends with the group splitting up, and Ben, Locke and Hugo going to find Jacob.

With the risk of sounding repetitive, Michael Emerson is just brilliant in this episode. Ben is a character used to getting what he wants, being very good at manipulating other people. The scene where he tries to negotiate with Keamy, and Keamy kills Alex comes as a surprise. I was quite shocked myself, normally in a situation like that (in a tv-show), the "good" person always manages to save the person held hostage, but in this case it goes wrong. The flashforwards are interesting, but it's only now afterwards that I realize how interesting they were. We get to see Ben wake up in the desert, but it's only after seeing the S4 finale that we understand that this takes place just after he turns the wheel.
It was also really interesting to see when Ben summoned the Smoke Monster. That "device" or whatever you want to call it was always interesting, because it made me wonder about it's purpose. What was it? Why was it there? We didn't really learn more about it, I believe they revisit that hidden room once more or so (or am I wrong?) but nothing more than that. Would have loved getting more information about it, but I guess it remains one of those interesting mysteries.
 
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 30, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Another great Ben episode.  :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
Yes, yes, yes. Amazing episode! Probably in my own top 5.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 01, 2012, 06:18:47 AM
Sorry for the slack, I got really tired yesterday and fell asleep, and now I've been sort of busy so far during the morning, but should be okay now. I'll probably have another update later tonight, but right now I'm here with number 5.

5. Walkabout - Season 1, Episode 4 (Locke-centric)
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"Don't tell me what I can't do!"

So, first episode as we enter the top5, we have "Walkabout", the first Locke-centric episode in Lost, and also the fourth episode overall. Is this the best Locke-centric episode? It's a tricky question to answer, as you've noticed so far on the list, there are quite a few Locke-centric episodes, and there are certainly several really good ones. However, this one is my current favorite out of them, and so good that it deserves it's place in the top 5.

In flashbacks we get to see Locke working at a box-company, in an office. He has a cruel boss that often taunts him and says demeaning things, but at one point Locke stands up to his behaviour, and feels good about it. He talks to a woman on the phone about it, and he has plans on going on a walkabout.
Later, we get to see Locke at a traveling-store. One of the leaders on the walkabout says that they can't take Locke with them, and that he simply can't do a walkabout in his "condition". Locke is revealed to be in a wheelchair, and he says the classic line: "Dont tell me what I cant do", but has to face the facts that he can't go on this walkabout. Finally we get to see him after the crash, Locke wakes up on the beach and is able to move his toes.

The survivors have now spent 4 days on the island after the crash, and the food supply is running short. Locke reveals a big knife-collection, and says that they should hunt for boars. On this hunt, Locke is accompanied by Kate who will help Sayid to triangulate the signal they heard earlier, but also Michael, who is later attacked by a boar and hurts his leg.
Kate leads Michael back to the beach, but suddenly the Smoke Monster appears, though they don't get to see much of it, they hear it. It goes after Locke, and he stares into it, and later the Smoke Monster is gone, but Locke is still alive and well.
Back on the beach when Kate informs Jack about what happened, Jack sees his father and tries to follow him. Instead they find Locke who has catched a boar. The episode ends with the survivors burning the remains of the plane and eating. Locke sees the wheelchair burn, and smiles.

Quite tough to describe what makes this episode so good. It's a pick that I think most people would agree on, this episode being one of the best in season 1. This is really the first good glimpse we get of Locke in the tv-show, and he went on to become one of the most interesting characters of the first season. While Jack had a more "passive" leadership, being more drawn back, wanting to stay on the beach/in the cave, Locke was more of an adventurer. I think one of the things I liked about Locke was that he didn't stay back and just chill at the beach, he was always exploring the island and learning more things. On the island he was allowed to be the person he wanted to be, which he couldn't be back in his old life, both because of being paralysed, but also due to having a boring day job. On the island he was allowed to do what he believed he was "born" to do, and it's understandable why Locke never wanted to leave the island.
Some great emotional scenes like when Locke gets denied the chance to go on the walkabout, but also interesting seeing him hunt boars. Just a damn good episode overall.  :hat
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 01, 2012, 07:07:07 AM
Awesome pick, Z!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: The King in Crimson on July 01, 2012, 09:30:17 AM
Exposé really isn't that bad. I thought it was a fun little episode that was different from others. The whodunit style of it and the cruelest death in all of Lost was pretty good in my opinion. Definitely not the worst lost episode and actually not close to being the worst either.
Agreed.

Exposé is really not that bad.  It's one of those relatively pointless Lost episodes that still manages to be fun and entertaining, kinda like Tricia Tanaka Is Dead.  It's middle of the pack for me, actually maybe a bit higher.  It was memorable, that's for sure.

Stranger In A Strange Land is a much, much worse episode than Exposé in Season 3.  Actually, that's easily the worst episode in the entire run.

Interesting list so far.  I agree that most of these are pretty fantastic episodes, though Sawyer's Boar Hunt is certainly an odd choice.  Across The Sea wouldn't make my list, actually it would make my least favorite list, but that's me.

My season ranking is as follows:
1
4
5
2 (really close between 2 and 5)
6
3
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 01, 2012, 09:32:55 AM
5
1
2
4
6


3
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 01, 2012, 12:07:09 PM
Most people ranking S3 pretty low, I'm not that surprised, but I do like it myself.
Okay, next update. Top3 tomorrow, and this update is a bit earlier because I'm watching the game between Italy and Spain later.

4. The End - Season 6, Episode 17 (Various)
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"See you in another life brother"

"The End", the end of the road, the season 6 finale of Lost, and the last episode of the tv-show. Apart from "Across the Sea", I don't think there has been a bigger fan-divider, I'd say half the people I've seen loved this episode, meanwhile the other half felt disappointed by it. I was a bit afraid before that the episode wouldn't live up to my expectations, but it managed to, and even exceeded them. Before I even begin to describe my thoughts on the episode, I'll just recap what happens for those who haven't seen it in a while.

The part on the island picks up with the big Jack versus the Man in Black-story, they are both headed to the heart of the island. While there, Desmond is lowered down, and "unplugs" the big rock blocking the water. The island starts to fall apart, but Jack decides to hunt down the Man in Black. As a side-effect to the island not having the "heart" anymore, the Man in Black has also lost his powers and become mortal. Jack manages to fight him down on the cliffs, Kate shows up and shoots him, and Jack is able to kick him off the cliffs. Jack goes back to the heart of the island, and he finds the unconscious Desmond, and Jack is able to plug the stone back in, saving the island. However, Jack is badly injured and is slowly dying. As he walks through the forest, he falls down on the same spot where he first woke up on the island. Vincent runs up to Jack, and stays with him. Jack sees the Ajira plane fly over his head, as he closes his eye and dies.
In the side-flashes, we get to see Desmond collect the Oceanic 815-people, and as they are reunited, they slowly start to remember about their lives on the island. They all go to a church where they all meet up. Christian (Jack's dad) has a conversation about Jack, and he tells him that this place was created so that they could all find each other in the afterlife. As Christian opens the doors, the church is surrounded by light.

I'm not the type of person who cries while watching movies or tv-shows, and it often takes a lot for me to feel really sad or emotionally affected. But in this case the episode just hit me like a brick wall. These were all characters I cared about. Some of them more, some of them less, but as a group of people, the adventures they had been through over the course of these 6 seasons, it was quite extraordinary.
The conclusion on the island was both surprising and not, while characters had died in the show before, I doubt many people would have expected Jack to die. While the episode as a whole was very satisfying, I really liked how the characters had their flashbacks and started remembering their old lives, and how Desmond managed to collect everyone. While the major part of the episode was really great, I felt like the ending, the last ~10 minutes or whatever were the best minutes. The church-scene (together with the beautiful music) was really sad to see, but also very uplifting. Seeing all the characters reunited again, even minor ones like Shannon and Boone, but just seeing everyone together. I thought the way they were embraced by light was a beautiful moment. I'm not religious myself, and I'm not even sure I believe in the afterlife, but it was really well executed. The ending that took place on the island was just perfect. I loved it how they closed the circle, Jack dying at the same place where he first woke up on the island, Vincent being next to him, and how he sees the plane and then closes his eyes. I really feel like Lost had the perfect ending.

With that said, I know a lot of people criticize this episode for not giving all the answers. I don't think people should blame this episode. By the time we got to the finale there were literally tons of questions that hadn't been answered, mostly minor ones, but to even expect that they would all be answered, that was having really high hopes. Instead of ending with a cliffhanger or something mysterious, they decided to go on a more emotional-focus, and it really worked.
Lost was never about the island, it was about the characters. While the island was one of the big things that made it interesting (because it was mysterious), the characters were the main focus. What was amazing over these 6 seasons was seeing how the characters evolved. They all had luggage coming to the island (problems in their old lives), and on the island they could escape ll of that and create bonds with each other. In that sense, I think the ending was well done.
 
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Progmetty on July 01, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
I can't read this thread cause I'm still watching the show for the first time, I'm in season 2 now. But I'm looking forward to checking this thread as soon as I'm done with the whole show.
Answer me this one thing though, does the fuckin writers have a plan? I mean is there a point to the mysteries or is the mystery itself is the point? cause it's really starting to feel like the writers are starting to make it up as they go and don't have a clear vision of the grand plan the show gives the impression of. It's kinda starting to feel like the last two seasons of Battlestar Galactica.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 01, 2012, 12:24:44 PM
From what I've seen/heard from Lindelof in different interviews they had parts of the plan completed, but had to alter some things along the way. The viewers feedback added to this, if loads of people wanted something, then the writers perhaps changed a bit or added a bit. It wasn't until S3 or so when they decided it would be six seasons, that the writers started working more on a "major plan".

Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 01, 2012, 02:10:55 PM
Yeah, that episode hit me hard. I loved it. May very well be my favorite episode
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on July 01, 2012, 03:38:56 PM
The End is my favourite in all of Lost. I base my ranking mostly on in what sense the episodes affected me and this one did. Oh, boy it did. Having said that, the obvious Constant and Through the Looking Glass did as well, so I still expect them, probably with the latter on #1.

Good inclusion :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 01, 2012, 04:15:04 PM
The End is my favourite in all of Lost. I base my ranking mostly on in what sense the episodes affected me and this one did. Oh, boy it did. Having said that, the obvious Constant and Through the Looking Glass did as well, so I still expect them, probably with the latter on #1.

Good inclusion :tup

I completely agree with everything you have said here. The End made me so emotional.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Big Hath on July 01, 2012, 06:51:31 PM
The Constant was such a great episode, probably my favorite.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: RuRoRul on July 01, 2012, 07:36:44 PM
Great to see The Shape Of Things To Come (one of my favourites but didn't think it was particularly well regarded) and Walkabout up there  :tup The End is fairly good (I might even say it is very well done given the premise), but I could never rate it highly because I feel the part that deals with the actual plot, while pretty good, could have been much better, and because a large part of it is dedicated to a premise which is (in my opinion), very poor and drags down the entire last season. It's one thing for an episode to include a lot of stuff that is essentially pointless to the plot, but it's quite a feat to retroactively render a bunch of other footage from previous episodes that you thought must be important (or else why else would it be incuded?) utterly pointless.

But yeah, The End is a decent episode in itself, it's mainly the premise of the season itself that's bad - it just happens that The End is the one which reveals that premise and devotes most of its run time to it.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 02, 2012, 03:20:23 AM
Yeah I was expecting that episode to get some mixed appreciation.
But this one, I think will be met with more united praise:

3. Through the Looking Glass - Season 3, Episode 22 (Jack-centric)
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What an episode. This episode was packed with action, twists but also just being a very damn good episode overall. Even the people I know who hated Season 3 (or disliked it) still had very good things to say about this finale. Most fans seem to agree on it being one of the very best Lost-episodes, and I agree.

At the beach, the survivors are preparing for the big attack by the Others, by rigging the tents with explosives. When I first saw this, I felt so happy that the Others would finally get to taste their own medicine. Sadly, it doesn't work out 100%, but at least some of them get to eat sand. On the other part of the island, a group of survivors goes with Rousseau to find the radio tower, where the new stranger, Naomi can contact the freighter ship outside of the coast. Back at the beach, after only hearing two out of three explosions, Sawyer, Juliet and Hurley go back to help out. Hurley gets some redemption, after feeling useless and that he can't help anyone, he drives the Dharma-van right into the camp, causing turmoil. This situation is taken advantage of, and Sawyer finally puts a bullet in Tom Friendly.

Charlie and Desmond are on their way to the Looking Glass, a Dharma-station found underwater. Desmond has been having flashes of Charlie dying, so he wants to go down. However, Charlie knocks Desmond unconscious and decides to swim down instead. When he gets into the station, he is quickly taken hostage by two Others down there. They quickly share the information about this infiltration to Ben Linus, who sends Mikhail down there.
Desmond soon arrives and helps Charlie fight off these two Others, and learn that the code for the signal-blocker is actually notes from "Good Vibrations" by The Beach Boys. Charlie goes into the room to try and fix it.
Charlie is able to get contact with Penny, but she says that she doesn't know this Naomi, and that she doesn't know what Charlie is talking about. Mikhail appears outside and blows up the window, so water starts flowing in. Charlie closes the door so that Desmond wont risk drowning as well, and with the last powers he has, Charlie writes on his hand, and shows Desmond: "NOT PENNYS BOAT".
Back at the other survivors near the radio tower, Locke kills Naomi, and says that they shouldn't call the boat. However, Locke is unable to kill Jack, who communicates with the ship, who says they'll be sending rescue.

In the flashes, we get to see Jack go through a difficult time of his life. He is addicted to Oxycodone, he has a big bushy beard and seems very depressed, and also tries to take his own life.
He reads about the death of someone he knows which makes it even worse, and as he is about to jump from a bridge, a car crashes in the background. Jack instead goes to try and help the victim in the crash.
However, the brilliance of the flashes comes in the very last scene. It is revealed that the flashes aren't things that happened before the island, but instead happening after the island, revealing that some of them actually got off the island. Jack has a conversation with Kate, and Jack says that they should never have left the island.

Man, what a great episode. Normally it's easy in a tv-show like Lost to enjoy some of the stories but not all of them, since there's often several stories in each episode. In this one however, I loved all of them. The journey to the radio tower (that we hadn't seen before), the confrontation at the beach, Charlie and Desmond's trip to the Looking Glass, but also the flashes. What I loved about the flashes was the unexpected twist we got. While watching it, at first I thought he was depressed over his divorce, and then that the person who died was actually Sarah (we later find out it was Locke), so the whole twist in it was done perfectly. I also loved the part when Jack says "we should never have left the island" because it implied that the island was something special. That it was their destiny to do something special there, and by leaving that they had done something wrong. All in all just an excellent episode. 
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on July 02, 2012, 04:27:23 AM
Up to that point in the series, it was my favourite as well. Good choice, it is a fantastic episode.

Somehow I expect The Constant on #1, mainly because it was the best single story-driven episode and that episode alone centralised the plot to Penny and Desmond and made their love one of the key aspects of the series. Also, The Constant, for the first time in the whole show, confirmed there was more to the island with Desmond's unsticking in time.

Well, I said more than I wanted to, it's your thread to discuss the episodes, particularly since it hasn't shown up on your list yet, but I used to be very passionate about the series as well so please excuse me  :biggrin:

That said, I have no clue what the other one is going to be.. Probably another series final? The Incident or Live Together, Die Alone? Or more likely, There's No Place Like Home? And if it's no season final, what have we left? Something like Dead is Dead or The Candidate?

I'm going to stick with Live Together, Die Alone at #2 and The Constant at #1, but we'll see :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Xanthul on July 02, 2012, 04:33:41 AM
Damn, you're making me want to watch the whole show again and I don't really have time for that right now... plus I still need to see the last season of Dexter and Breaking Bad plus start with Mad Men...

Excellent list and writeups, I could never do something like this because I saw the whole show in a rush so I can barely tell seasons apart, much less episodes. I do remember the events in your writeups though and I agree they are some of the best. We'll see if your top 2 matches my favorite moments.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Ravenheart on July 02, 2012, 04:44:50 AM
4 amazing episodes in a row. This has inspired me to do a list on my own, but I'm not sure if I could even begin to pick 20 favorites.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 02, 2012, 04:50:39 AM
I have a feeling that one of the episodes I have left will be very surprising, in fact I don't even think I've seen it mentioned.  :lol I won't spoil anything, but I think some will be surprised.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: RuRoRul on July 02, 2012, 08:47:03 AM
 :tup Now that is a great episode.

To be honest I really hope The Constant doesn't appear, the most overrated episode of Lost (or perhaps anything ever). Probably will, not sure what the other one will be... so many great episodes it could potentially be. There's No Place Like Home?
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 02, 2012, 12:42:29 PM
Okay, time for another update, and probably the last for today. Don't worry though, I'll post number one as soon as I wake up tomorrow.  :lol
I'm sorry to disappoint you RuRoRul, but:

2. The Constant - Season 4, Episode 5 (Desmond-centric)
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Generally regarded as one of the best Lost-episodes, in many cases even THE best. One of the episodes I'd say transcends the island and everything about Lost, while the tv-show has both lovers and haters, this episode sticks out in the way that I think even someone who doesn't care for Lost would still be able to appreciate it. It's the perfect example of Lost being such a fantastic Drama-show, on the emotional level. And in the end, one of the best things about Lost (as I see it) is the fact that it has so much variety. Emotional-episodes, Adventurous and mysterious episodes, action-episodes, and it often gave us the best of these different styles. The Constant is mostly the former, and being very good at it.

The story focuses mostly on Desmond and his relationship with Penny. When Desmond and Sayid are heading to the freighter, Desmond starts jumping between 1996 and 2004 mentally. He doesn't recall anything that has happened in between, which causes problems. In 2004 he has a conversation with Faraday who tells him that when he's back in 1996, he needs to go to Oxford University and find the younger version of Faraday, that might be able to help him.
While the "flashes" gets longer and more frequent, Desmond goes to find Faraday in 1996, and later realizes that he is stuck in a time warp. Faraday tells Desmond that he needs to find a "constant", a person present in both times that can serve as a kind of anchor, to stabilize his mind. Desmond fears that the jumping between two different time periods will give him a brain aneurysm, so he decides that Penny should be his constant.
Desmond goes to find Penny in 1996, but she is upset because he broke up with her. He manages to get her phone number though, and says that he will phone her 8 years later. Back in 2004, Desmond is finally able to get a hold of Penny, who says that she has been looking for him for 3 years. They reconcile before the power is cut, and as Desmond has created his own constant, his mind stops jumping.
On the island, Faraday looks through his notebook, and finds a message saying: "if anything goes wrong, Desmond Hume will be my constant".

Okay, so I was quite taken away by this episode. There are so many good things about it, but if I had to name one thing, the best part of this episode, I would say Henry Ian Cusick, and his performance. Desmond is such a great character, and it's really in his centric-episodes that he shines the most. He's a funny guy in the gang, but when we get to his centric-episodes, there's so much more to him than just the classic quotes, or his great accent, or being awesome.
The whole love-card is often played out, and time travel is hard to pull off, but in this case I really think it works. The scene where Desmond calls Penny, and she answers - that scene was just such a joy. It was like breathing out, and thinking "he made it!". It's certainly one of the more unique episodes, and also less action and mystery, but on the emotional level it just brings the A-game. It's really something special.  :heart

Will be back with number one tomorrow, I feel fairly confident that it will surprise quite a few people. (and no, it's not Exposé)  :D
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: masterthes on July 02, 2012, 12:56:54 PM
I'm not going to lie, I got really choked up by the end of that episode. Desmond getting in touch with Penny was definitely one of the big highlights of the show.

Speaking briefly about the finale, I might have been the only one, but the whole Sawyer/Juliet thing never worked out for me, since in the early years they kept with this whole Jack/Kate/Sawyer triangle and then they started teasing a possible Jack/Juliet relationship that when the Juliet/Sawyer thing happened, it seemed like it came from left field
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 02, 2012, 01:13:48 PM
My guesses:

The 23rd Psalm

ooorr


The Incident
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: PuffyPat on July 02, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Through the Looking Glass is my favorite episode. Hands down. It was the first time I was ever truly sad that a character on a TV show died.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on July 02, 2012, 01:22:47 PM
The Incident

I already called that and Zantera said his #1 hasn't been mentioned yet..
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 02, 2012, 01:23:36 PM
Oh. Hmm..






The 23rd Psalm, or ? 


I 'm calling it
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: jonny108 on July 02, 2012, 01:27:22 PM
Great list!!! Excited to see your No. 1. I'm guessing it will be a S1 episode like White Rabbit or Homecoming.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Elite on July 02, 2012, 01:29:13 PM
Oh. Hmm..






The 23rd Psalm, or ? 


I 'm calling it

You could actually be right, though I always thought The Cost of Living was Eko's best. That said, I wouldn't put it near a top 20. I really liked Eko's character, but his own episodes weren't THAT good, at least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: RuRoRul on July 02, 2012, 01:33:42 PM
 :lol I could have guessed. A good episode, just not one of my favourites so I never get why it tops all these lists :P No idea what is coming next, so difficult to guess any when there are still so many episodes of it left that are great for different aspects of the show.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 02, 2012, 04:46:49 PM
2 incredible episodes. Charlie's death is definitely one of the saddest deaths ever on any tv show I have seen. And the seen in which Desmond calls penny is also one of my favorites
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: The King in Crimson on July 02, 2012, 06:36:20 PM
Two of the best Lost episodes..

Fantastic television right there.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: masterthes on July 02, 2012, 07:58:33 PM
Hmm is there a season finale still available that hasn't been used yet?
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Jaq on July 02, 2012, 10:36:56 PM
All I gotta say is, number 1 had better be brilliant, because The Constant is one of my favorite episodes of TELEVISION, ever. It's sublimely good.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes
Post by: Zantera on July 03, 2012, 02:56:49 AM
Okay. Time for the big surprise, an episode nobody could see coming!  :biggrin:

1. Man of Science, Man of Faith - Season 2, Episode 1 (Jack-centric)
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An unknown man wakes up as he hears a beeping sound. He quickly jumps down from his bed, jumps on a chair, slides to the computer (which is revealed to be the source of the sound) and enters something. The sound stops.
He then goes to his vinyl-collection and picks out "Make Your Own Kind of Music" and proceeds on with the day by doing daily chores. He does the dishes, works out some and then takes a hot shower. He mixes up a protein-drink and injects himself with some form of medicine/serum. However, he is soon abruptly interrupted by the sound of an earthquake.
As he quickly runs around gathering his uniform, boots and weapons, it is revealed that this takes place down the hatch, and that the sound we just heard was Locke, Jack, Kate and Hurley in the end of Season 1 blowing up the hatch.

In flashbacks we get to see Jack and how he meets his future wife, Sarah. She has been in a car crash, but Jack manages to succeed with the operation, though he tells her that she may never walk again.
There's a lot going on in Jack's head, so he goes to run a "Tour De Stade" (running the stairs of a stadium), while running he falls and meets another runner, Desmond. Jack talks about his situation with Sarah, and how he feels like he has failed her, but Desmond tries to cheer him up. When Jack later goes to see Sarah, he finds out that she has recovered miraculously.
Back on the island the survivors are arguing about what they should do about the hatch. Locke wants to go down right away, but Jack thinks they should wait for the sun to go up. They head back to the caves to discuss it with the other survivors.
Locke however makes it clear to Jack that he will go down the hatch, and when he leaves, Kate follows.

Locke lowers Kate down the hatch, but she suddenly disappears and the hatch lights up. Jack decides to go after Locke and Kate. When he gets to the hatch, nobody is there, so he decides to go down. Down there he finds a mural on the wall, and the key he has around his neck is drawn towards the wall, revealing a strong magnetic force. After this he hears music playing, and he enters a bigger room that reveals computers and other interesting things, something you wouldn't expect to find on the island. Locke soon appears to be at gunpoint by the unknown man, who says that he will kill Locke unless Jack surrenders. When Jack refuses, the gunman steps out of the shadows, and it is revealed that he is in fact Desmond from Jack's flashback.

I think part of the reason why I rank this episode so high is because of all the fond memories I have attached to it. It may sound silly, but I think that other circumstances that happen simultaneously with something can make that memory even more powerful, or sort of boost the experience. (In the same way it can work negatively I suppose)
I had just watched through season 1 which ended with the big cliffhanger, and I wasn't able to watch Lost for a few days because I had lots of schoolwork. (took all the discipline I had to actually study instead of watching)  :lol
But when the Friday came, I aced my test in school and got the highest score, to celebrate this I picked up a Pizza on the way home, and watched the start of Season 2. I don't know if it was just the episode, the pizza OR getting full score on my test, but it all added into this episode being so damn good.
We finally got to see what was in the hatch, and we also got to see Desmond, who made a really strong impact on me right away. All I could think about after watching, was: "who is this guy?" and "how did he get to the island?". Because we didn't see him in Oceanic Flight 815, so this made me very interested in learning more about his origins.
I think the first minutes of this episode is probably the best start to a season ever, "Make Your Own Kind of Music" playing, Desmond doing his daily stuff when he is suddenly interrupted. Kinda like with the start of Season 3, nobody expected the first scenes to take place on the island itself, but then it was just like "holy shit, this is on the island!".
While The Constant was more emotional, and Through the Looking Glass being good in many aspects, Man of Science, Man of Faith just had me on suspense throughout the whole episode. It's very much possible that the other experiences I had surrounding the episode affected it, I couldn't watch Lost for a few days so it kinda built up expectations and "I have to watch more", and when I finally did it was even better than expected.
From what I've seen, this episode is generally regarded top20-material, but rarely this high.  :lol

So, thanks for following the list. It's been really cool doing it. If someone else wants to make one now or later on, I'll totally be following since Lost is so great. But for now I think that's it. So thanks to everyone.  :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 03, 2012, 03:06:01 AM
Great choice :tup
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: Dimitrius on July 03, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
The Constant is such an amazing episode!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: jonny108 on July 03, 2012, 11:29:10 AM
Great list!
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: masterthes on July 03, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
Great list. Desmond was my 3rd favorite character in the show, after Ben and Locke
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: Elite on July 03, 2012, 03:49:51 PM
Wow, didn't expect that at all, no. Well, nice choice, though it wouldn't really be mine.
If I haven't spoiled too much already I might do one of my own some time, especially since I'm watching the whole series again (now with the mother, whenever I see her, currently halfway Season 4).

Thanks for doing this, it was a fun read and stuff :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: Zantera on July 04, 2012, 01:27:26 AM
Thanks everyone! And Elite, I'll follow yours if/when you make it. :P

I want to re-watch the show as well, but I've currently started watching Fringe so I'll probably watch through that before going back to Lost.
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on July 10, 2012, 12:58:08 PM
I decided to revisit this show and have just finished first season! Now i remember why the first season rocked so much! The characters development and the backstorys of each character is so well made and i love that!  :metal
It's also strangely exciting to see the show again even if you know how it will end. I think it's simply beacuse i actually haven't seen the first couple of seasons in atleast 4 years!  :)
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 10, 2012, 01:14:44 PM
charlie's death never really rocked me, i really didn't like him. i liked shannon more to put it in perspective. dumb character imo. but the constant rules. desmond is awesome
Title: Re: Zantera's Top 20 Favorite Lost Episodes (Finished)
Post by: Adami on July 11, 2012, 06:19:04 PM
charlie's death never really rocked me, i really didn't like him. i liked shannon more to put it in perspective. dumb character imo. but the constant rules. desmond is awesome

Charlie was awesome....except for that whole "MUST BAPTIZE THE BABY!" thing and when he got all super dark and kidnapped Sun; Aside from those few storylines I loved charlie.


You all everybody (in charlies falsetto).