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General => Archive => Forum-related => Topic started by: black_biff_stadler on May 17, 2012, 09:44:23 PM
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Five years ago today you came into my life. I never knew if I was cut out for long term posting and even considered abortion but once I looked into your adorable little eyes, I knew I could never be without you again. We've had some bumps along the way (namely potty training) but at the end of every stressful day, I realize I'd have it no other way.
Happy motherfuckin burfday DTF, for you are THE BEST THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :metal :metal :metal
Edit: Seeing as how no one's posted yet, I figured I'd clarify that DTF itself turns 5 years old today and I didn't just make a thread bragging about myself making 5 years in this community (I'll do that next month when I reach 6 years.)
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What can I say about a community that accepted me at my most honest, and has seen me through some of the highest and lowest points of my life. I truly love you guys. :heart
Happy birthday DTF, go get laid!!!
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Happy birthday you beautiful wonderful soul consuming forum!
And 22.5 hours!
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:-*
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eh, I give this thread a 5 out of 8.
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eh, I give this thread a 5 out of 8.
iseewhatyoudidthere
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eh, I give this thread a 5 out of 8.
Banned.
Happy Birthday my child!
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Happy birthday my darling... :-* :heart :hat :tup :angel: :coolio :obscure:
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Even though I don't contribute enough here as I should. I absolutely love this place. Its great to be here.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DTF!!!
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DTF is only 5?? I swear I thought she was older, officer!
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Even though I don't contribute enough here as I should. I absolutely love this place. Its great to be here.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY DTF!!!
You're a "Josh R." as am I. You're welcome in any of my threads :)
DTF is only 5?? I swear I thought she was older, officer!
Statutory posting ftw :metal
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lolDTF
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Gadoh pls
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35 in Dog years you dogs. Happy B-Day!!
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As we would say in Holland:
Hatseeee!
Congratulations!
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You guys are truly like another family to me. I love this place. Keep being awesome. :tup
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yay :)
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So DTF's birthday is the same as my work anniversary day, been there eight years today, but fuck work. :metardica:
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damn, she's getting up there, gonna have to find a younger version.
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only 5 huh? Coulda swore it was longer too. I guess I just don't recall exactly when the dt.net split came to be. 40 days, 1 hours and 41 minutes sucked out of my life and given to this bitch.
Good times.
:-*
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only 5 huh? Coulda swore it was longer too. I guess I just don't recall exactly when the dt.net split came to be. 40 days, 1 hours and 41 minutes sucked out of my life and given to this bitch.
Good times.
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Yup. We were May 2007. I believe DT.net shut down in November 2006. There was the grand experiment of www.dreamtheaterforums.com in between. (yes, go ahead and click on it and see what happens. You know you were thinking about doing it)
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only 5 huh? Coulda swore it was longer too. I guess I just don't recall exactly when the dt.net split came to be. 40 days, 1 hours and 41 minutes sucked out of my life and given to this bitch.
Good times.
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Just had to check mine, 100 days today....
:footloose:
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happy birthday dtf. i love you with all my penis
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As we would say in Holland:
Hatseeee!
Congratulations!
No, hatseflats.
Conrgats DTF :)
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only 5 huh? Coulda swore it was longer too. I guess I just don't recall exactly when the dt.net split came to be. 40 days, 1 hours and 41 minutes sucked out of my life and given to this bitch.
Good times.
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Yup. We were May 2007. I believe DT.net shut down in November 2006. There was the grand experiment of www.dreamtheaterforums.com in between. (yes, go ahead and click on it and see what happens. You know you were thinking about doing it)
Yeah, it's hard to keep track, since many of us were here "before the beginning". I don't really worry about the exact date of the split.
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As we would say in Holland:
Hatseeee!
Congratulations!
No, hatseflats.
Conrgats DTF :)
Hatsekiedatum!
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Happy Birthday YOU SONUVABITCH!
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Pretty good forum but nothing compared to https://www.dreamtheater.net/topics/banter-brawl
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Ha ha you so funny.
Seriously though, I wanted to like that place, but the software they use just sucks so hard. No way to subscribe to threads, no way to know which threads you've posted in, not even a way to jump to first new post in a thread. They had "unofficial" forums right here that they could've adopted and made legit and had a built-in base, but they started from scratch with the most retarded forum software I've ever seen. Literally. Why would anyone with a three-digit IQ choose that software when there are so many superior options, many if not most of them free?
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For some reason I though this place was much older than that. Happy birthday DTF
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This actual community is MUCH older than 5 years, but in its current manifestation, it is only 5.
Next month will mark 12 years since I joined this lovely community.
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So DTF's birthday is the same as my work anniversary day, been there eight years today, but fuck work. :metardica:
Year's DTF has been around: 5
Years Arj has been at current job: 8
:omg:
For some reason I though this place was much older than that. Happy birthday DTF
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Well it sorta has. I remember joining the original dreamtheater.net briefly in 2000 (my name was some kinda awkward combination of Ytse Jam and Status Seeker if I recall correctly) but got bored quickly and then checked back in for like a week in 2002, and finally joined for good in summer 2006.
A few months later, dreamtheater.com surfaced and eventually an irreconcilable rift created a Hatfield/McCoy dynamic between two factions of members which gave way to the split resulting in dreamtheaterforums.org and 5/8 if I'm not mistaken. I was still a month from even making one whole year in the community at that time so I'm not 100% sure of all these facts/dates so anyone who wants to correct any errors or inconsistencies in this post, feel free to do so.
Thanks!
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For some reason I though this place was much older than that.
This community goes back to when DT had an official forum in EZBoard back in, I think, 1999 or so. Shortly after that, the forum resided at dreamtheater.net. It was shut down on Mike's orders in November 2006, after which the fans from that online community set up an unofficial forum at DTF.com so that the forum community would continue. During the 5-6 months it was there, it fragmented between (1) those who wanted it to be a DT-centered community, and (2) those who wanted it to be something else. DTF.com became 5/8. With help from some close to the band, I set up DTF.org the day 5/8 was launched, and the community once again continued. (and I subsequently reacquired DTF.com, which now points here) So, yeah, as a community in general, we date back to 1999 or so. But in terms of this specific site run by me, we're 5. Make sense?
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY DTF!
I haven't known you for a very long time, but I love you with all of my heart!
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damn, she's getting up there, gonna have to find a younger version.
:lol: trade her in for the new model. this one is starting menopause
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happy birthday dtf i dont post alot i just like to lurk mmmmbacon!!!!
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D'awwww Happy Birthday DTF! :laugh:
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happy birthday dtf i dont post alot i just like to lurk mmmmbacon!!!!
Post more! We don't biteunlessyousay"please"
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Happy birthday DTF!!! We have been a match made in heaven! :heart :heart :heart
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For some reason I though this place was much older than that.
This community goes back to when DT had an official forum in EZBoard back in, I think, 1999 or so. Shortly after that, the forum resided at dreamtheater.net. It was shut down on Mike's orders in November 2006, after which the fans from that online community set up an unofficial forum at DTF.com so that the forum community would continue. During the 5-6 months it was there, it fragmented between (1) those who wanted it to be a DT-centered community, and (2) those who wanted it to be something else. DTF.com became 5/8. With help from some close to the band, I set up DTF.org the day 5/8 was launched, and the community once again continued. (and I subsequently reacquired DTF.com, which now points here) So, yeah, as a community in general, we date back to 1999 or so. But in terms of this specific site run by me, we're 5. Make sense?
Yeah, cool, I was completely unaware that 5/8 was in any way related to this site. Very interesting how it all evolved.
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*Throws cake in face and drowns in club soda*
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I remember joining up on the old EZBoard in 2000, about a month or two after it launched. Such a different place back then. And I also remember being on vacation when Itchy made the switch from EZBoard to vBulletin, when the board became part of DT.net in 2002. Damn, ten years since THAT happened.
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For some reason I though this place was much older than that.
This community goes back to when DT had an official forum in EZBoard back in, I think, 1999 or so. Shortly after that, the forum resided at dreamtheater.net. It was shut down on Mike's orders in November 2006, after which the fans from that online community set up an unofficial forum at DTF.com so that the forum community would continue. During the 5-6 months it was there, it fragmented between (1) those who wanted it to be a DT-centered community, and (2) those who wanted it to be something else. DTF.com became 5/8. With help from some close to the band, I set up DTF.org the day 5/8 was launched, and the community once again continued. (and I subsequently reacquired DTF.com, which now points here) So, yeah, as a community in general, we date back to 1999 or so. But in terms of this specific site run by me, we're 5. Make sense?
Yeah, cool, I was completely unaware that 5/8 was in any way related to this site. Very interesting how it all evolved.
I forget sometimes that as newer people join here, or 5/8 for that matter, that they will not be aware of the shared history. And it is an interesting one, with a lot of nuance that Bosk's capsule summary only touches on.
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Geez... it's really been 5 years? That's insane.
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Oh and i've been around since .net so it's been more like 6 years being a member of this community for me... even though in the last year or so I've been posting less and less... don't really know why except that I don't have time or ability to sit down and post a bunch. Also matters that my computer is broken (still because I have to continue to get my files off of it while I"m able to before I send it in)...
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6 years for me in September.
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Six years for me next month. SIXERS UNITE!!! :metardica::metardica::metardica:
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Wowzers. Has it really been 5 years already?
Ok - I know I haven't been posting long, but I've had a bird's eye view into the Dot Org/58 split ever since it happened because of who my SO is. I vaguely remember that he and I were moving to a different apartment at the same time, which made everything a great big ball of "HELLO STRESS!".
I really don't know why it took me so long to join, but I've been lurking off and on since Dot Org's inception. :metal
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This place really has been an internet home for me. It's one of the few places where I feel I might actually offer something more than just inane banter. It's also funny to me to have watched the demographic of this place change over the years.
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It's also funny to me to have watched the demographic of this place change over the years.
Gayness is indeed on the rise :P
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Wowzers. Has it really been 5 years already?
Ok - I know I haven't been posting long, but I've had a bird's eye view into the Dot Org/58 split ever since it happened because of who my SO is. I vaguely remember that he and I were moving to a different apartment at the same time, which made everything a great big ball of "HELLO STRESS!".
I really don't know why it took me so long to join, but I've been lurking off and on since Dot Org's inception. :metal
Yup. You were there for those late-night conversations when we were getting the place set up. Good times.
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Wow! Has it been 5 years already? Geez... speaking of which, I've been away from here for nearly 18 months until recently. I started with the original DTF way back in 2002 or 2003, but I was never a heavy poster anyway. Regardless, happy birthday!
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Hey wow, totally off topic but seeing your username reminded me of this dream I had that you were doing a show in Belgium obscure. Like a gig with a band and you were the singer. I saw it in the newspaper or something like "OBSCURE COMING TO BELGIUM" with a pic of you on stage with a mic.
Pretty weird. :lol
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Happy Birthday DTF! You were borne out of chaos, but grew into something beautiful.
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bahahahahaha LMAO ......
obscure coming to Belgium...... :lol
thanks for letting me know hun.... I lol'd so hard :lol
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Yeah I probably would've never remembered it if I didn't see your username today. :lol
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Lord knows I needed that laughter :laugh:
/derailment
Happy bday ma darling (https://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu51/senemn/Emoticon/1SQSv.gif)
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I´m proud being a part of this fine community altough a little bummed i didn´t found it sooner than about a year ago. I lurked around on the forum a couple of month before i joined so i´m late too the party.
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Happy B-Day DTF!
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Well, I've not been here for long (3 months or so), but I already love this place to death. Happy birthday DTF!
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HOLY SHIT YEAH HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOL!
I've not been really active as of lately, but I still carry you guys and gals in my :heart
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Wowzers. Has it really been 5 years already?
Ok - I know I haven't been posting long, but I've had a bird's eye view into the Dot Org/58 split ever since it happened because of who my SO is. I vaguely remember that he and I were moving to a different apartment at the same time, which made everything a great big ball of "HELLO STRESS!".
I really don't know why it took me so long to join, but I've been lurking off and on since Dot Org's inception. :metal
Yup. You were there for those late-night conversations when we were getting the place set up. Good times.
While I was watching Pan's Labyrinth, if I remember correctly. ;) :metal
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Here's a history lesson that I've only shared with a few people. This is basically elaborating a tad on bosk's post.
dt.net/bb was run by Itch and Balrog... er, Borlag. If I remember correctly, Itchy got fed up and the forum basically imploded because of differences between the community and the administration. The plug was pulled, so we were all left to find various safe havens to reside at. It was at this point that Thalagyrt stepped up to provide the servers and domain name for dtf.com. Over the course of my tenure as a poster, I befriended Thalagyrt. We talked on a regular basis and shared guitar chops back and forth on the then-popular stickam chat sessions frequently filled with myself, Thal, Nick, and Jen.
One night Thal came to me with an idea. He proposed an idea of dropping any association with Dream Theater, as they were rarely the focus of the forum. I, and I assume a few others, eventually persuaded him that it would be a good idea. It was on that night while we were still in our AIM conversation that fiveeightforums.com was born.
I never told anybody this because there was a backlash that none of us imagined would happen. The community was split right down the middle. On one side, there were the posters who enjoyed the laid back style of fiveeight, where the band could be freely criticized. On the other hand, there were users angry at the association drop and the apparent "hijacking" of the forum by Thalagyrt. Thus, dreamtheaterforums.org was born.
I never told anyone that I had a part in this because I didn't want to be shunned by the community that I loved. There were some very valuable members who post solely on fiveeight that I still miss to this day. That being said, I love THIS community the most, and now, at this point in time, I am proud to have taken part in its creation, however small that part might have been.
Happy birthday, DTF.
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Ahhhh, memories. LOL
I won't speak for this forum because I imagine bosk would have included a Political/ Religious section, anyway..... buuuut... I'd like to take some credit for the creation of the original P/R forum on DT.net. I remember Itchy being completely against the idea, then right around the time of the 2004 election (Bush vs. Kerry), the forum EXPLODED and it was uncontainable. Itchy literally would have had to ban like 75% of the forum for breaking the "no politics" rule. I'd like to thank Ogre Jedi, Violent Green (RIP), Yustiniyan, Reisswolf (sp?) and a few others that I really can't remember because it's been a really long time..... those were some awesome times. I went to that forum originally just as a DT fan, but learned a lot about how to debate, how to form an argument and also a lot about why I believe what I believe and also how naive I was about certain things. I got my ass handed to me many times, but in retrospect, it was much needed. I also got in a few zingers, too, I would say. :)
Nice to see the P/R forum still going strong. Yeah, you basically have me to thank for that. LOL!
(I'm kidding when I say that..... I really am)
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..... anyone remember Steve French or A Change of Seasons? (not the album, the DT.net member)
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the internet was actually my idea....
so I trump you all
nevertheless, thanks to those who had the vision to resurrect and keep it going
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No way. John Petrucci came up with the internet. So, he could watch Guthrie Govan videos.
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I never told anyone that I had a part in this because I didn't want to be shunned by the community that I loved.
*snip*
I can really understand where you're coming from. I feel similar, as I want to be accepted at and by DTF for who I am and my own merits, not because of who my SO is.
It is what it is, man.
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More DTF & 5/8 history
It's always interesting to me to read stuff like this because, at the time, I didn't actually pay much attention to who was doing what, who was friends with whom, or what side anyone was on (among those who "took sides") in the whole thing. I was really busy at work, and recognized the names of a lot of regular posters, but that was about it. I would've been hard pressed to come up with details or impressions on more than a handful of specific posters.
After the split, I continued to post both here and at 5/8, as many did. Over time, the personalities of the two fora developed and it became more distinct, and became clear that DTF was more suited to my style.
Okay, okay, that's still whitewashing it. I was defending prog music (again) and one of the regular posters at 5/8 told me to shut the fuck up and go back to DTF because no one there likes me anyway, and I was pretty stoned and it hit me hard, so I figured fuck 'em and I just stopped posting there. There, I said it. I didn't want to be a whiny little shit, but just thinking about it now got me pissed off enough to say it anyway.
So uh... anyway, DTF is cool and it's been a good five years. Here's to many more! *raises a coffee cup*
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today marks 5 years for me on this site. weird to think about
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Here's a history lesson that I've only shared with a few people. This is basically elaborating a tad on bosk's post.
dt.net/bb was run by Itch and Balrog... er, Borlag. If I remember correctly, Itchy got fed up and the forum basically imploded because of differences between the community and the administration. The plug was pulled, so we were all left to find various safe havens to reside at. It was at this point that Thalagyrt stepped up to provide the servers and domain name for dtf.com. Over the course of my tenure as a poster, I befriended Thalagyrt. We talked on a regular basis and shared guitar chops back and forth on the then-popular stickam chat sessions frequently filled with myself, Thal, Nick, and Jen.
One night Thal came to me with an idea. He proposed an idea of dropping any association with Dream Theater, as they were rarely the focus of the forum. I, and I assume a few others, eventually persuaded him that it would be a good idea. It was on that night while we were still in our AIM conversation that fiveeightforums.com was born.
I never told anybody this because there was a backlash that none of us imagined would happen. The community was split right down the middle. On one side, there were the posters who enjoyed the laid back style of fiveeight, where the band could be freely criticized. On the other hand, there were users angry at the association drop and the apparent "hijacking" of the forum by Thalagyrt. Thus, dreamtheaterforums.org was born.
I never told anyone that I had a part in this because I didn't want to be shunned by the community that I loved. There were some very valuable members who post solely on fiveeight that I still miss to this day. That being said, I love THIS community the most, and now, at this point in time, I am proud to have taken part in its creation, however small that part might have been.
Happy birthday, DTF.
I completely get where you're coming from. I don't think there is any need at all to be worried about being "shunned." But I completely get where you are coming from, and at the time when the "split" happened, I can see the need to be concerned. But since you've shared those details, I guess I kinda feel compelled to share a bit more of the history from my perspective as well. Sherman, set the WayBack Machine! (shoot! we used to have an emoticon for that...)
In the last days of dt.net/bb, it wasn't really run by Borlag. Itchy was technically still in charge. The problem is, he wasn't really doing anything in terms of modding the forum. I am not sure whether he was just too busy with his web design business and other things, whether he just didn't care much about the forum, or a combination of both. But he had basically put others in charge of modding the forum, even though he was still technically in the driver's seat. I forget now who the forum admin was at the very end. Borlag was one of the moderators, but was definitely the most active in modding the forum and I think just kind of de facto became the "head mod" (maybe it was even officially decided that he would have that role--I'm not really sure). In any case, by that point in time, there was already sort of a split in place. Although it was one forum, there was a large group of posters who posted mainly on the DT side only. There was another group that posted mainly on the GD side only. And, yes, there was definitely crossover, but it was beginning to feel like two separate communities in a lot of ways.
Keep in mind that during this time, Mike Portnoy was still the face of DT and was very actively leading the PR side of the band. However, he did not really spend any time on DT.net/bb and knew of what went on there based solely on what others told him. I think the fact that the forum felt like two separate communities was noticed by many. And because a LOT of the discussion was not only focused on things other than DT, but in many cases was fairly critical of DT, I think some felt frustrated by that and felt that that forum was not the best reflection on DT. This next part is where I am speculating just a bit and piecing together bits of information from a lot of different sources, but here is what appears to have happened: Borlag, and possibly others who had direct contact with Mike Portnoy, informed him about what was going on, but perhaps a bit unfairly also exaggerated the situation quite a bit to the point where Mike felt DT.net/bb was outright hostile to DT. My understanding is that he basically gave Itchy what amounted to an ultimatum: Either get more active and clean house and get the place back in shape, or pull the plug because the band was not interested in having a place out there on the Internet with their name on it that reflected poorly on the band. Perfectly understandable in many respects. But Itchy either was not interested in taking a more active role, or did not have the time, so he went with the "pull the plug" option.
What happens when you get a group of people who have formed an Internet community they are used to posting on almost every day, and that community no longer exists? They find a new home. Former user Mikachu set up a temporary forum. There may have been a few others as well. Eventually, a member named Shawn set up a forum on a server that became dreamtheaterforums.com. And this is where my role in this whole thing becomes interesting. When DT.net/bb folded, I pretty much decided to just go my merry way and not worry about whether there was a DT Internet forum out there somewhere. There had been a couple of attempts to form "fan forums" that had died pretty quick deaths over the years, and I just wasn't really interested in something with the DT name on it that wasn't really a positive reflection on the band anyway. But I stayed in touch with a few people I had met from the forums, and they eventually persuaded me to come to DTF.com, so I did.
DTF.com was still in its early days and still finding its direction. I mentioned to Aran, one of the admins, that since I was sort of a DT forums "old timer," that I would be happy to lend a hand modding if they needed help, so he added me to the mod team. But there was still this sort of "dual identity" on the forums where there was still basically a DT-centered focus on one side and an almost anti-DT focus on the other. Personally, I felt that even though the forums were a collection of fans and had no official backing from the band, that if we were going to wear the DT name, the place should be run in such a way that the members of Dream Theater would not be ashamed to have their band's name associated with the place. So while I did not think it was appropriate in any way to squash people's ability to speak freely or to spend as much time as they wanted talking about things that are unrelated to Dream Theater, I also felt we needed to crack down a bit on criticism and bashing of the band. I also felt that some of the forum rules were a bit loose and contributed to an environment the band probably would not like associated with the Dream Theater name. But, again, it's a tough balance because this was a large community made up of a lot of individuals with different ideas and different backgrounds, and the community had been functioning a certain way at DT.net for such a long time that it didn't seem fair to completely pull the rug out from people who didn't see things my way. I tried to be sensitive to that side of the issue as well.
So what happened next was, I made my concerns known to Aran and a few others. I basically told him where I thought the direction of the forum should go IMO, and that I understood if that was not the concensus of everyone else. But I also told him that if they decided a different direction was what they wanted, I would likely be stepping down. It wasn't meant to be "do it my way or I'm taking my ball and going home." It was just intended to convey that if they were interested in keeping up a community that, again, the members of DT would not be ashamed to have their name associated with, I am happy to lend my own time and efforts. If they want to go a different direction, more power to them, but that is not something I am interested in, so I will step aside. And keep in mind, I did not own the forum, I was not an admin, and there were other mods and admins that would have allowed the forum to run just fine if I were not there. So, again, I was not "threatening" anything--I was just voicing that I was only interested in staying involved if it were going to be a certain type of community. I was actually ready to step down and was surprised when Aran responded by saying he agreed with me and him making me "head moderator."
While all of this was going on, DTF.com was in fact thriving as an Internet community. Thalagyrt was not initially involved (or if he was, it was just behind the scenes). Apparently, he had some backgrounds in maintaining servers, and he offered the admins to have the site moved over to his personal server to eliminate some of the technology issues we were having. That sounded great to those in charge, and that is basically how Thal became involved behind the scenes. Because he controlled the server, this meant that he also eventually came to control the forum as a whole. Important detail.
Overall, DTF.com was running fairly smoothly, although like any new forum, it definitely had its growing pains. But understandably, there were those who did not like the DT-centered direction and saw little need for a DT-centered focus on a site that the band themselves had no involvement in. What I did not realize at the time was that there was also a split among the admin team on this same issue. Apparently, there was a behind-the-scenes discussion among the admins about changing the direction of the forum again and making it something other than a DT forum. I think it was Antipopular who first mentioned this in the admin forum. The group who were not in support of the idea, which was as I recall Aran and most of the mods, spoke up and said it was not a good idea and did not represent what most of the forum wanted. And we were against the idea of publicly debating the issue because we felt it would be even mroe divisive and would have the potential to split the community rather than bring it together. Antipop, Thal, etc. said they understood and backed down from the idea. HOWEVER, one of them then set up a poll in GD asking whether people wanted a DT forum or a general music forum and mentioned that there might be a change. Although there were definite supporters of moving in a more general direction with the forum, a pretty large majority voted against the idea. The poll was locked, and I believe it may even have been deleted.
As one might imagine, there were a lot of behind-the-scenes discussions as a result of that poll. The majority were VERY unhappy that the poll was even posted after we had discussed the idea and essentially voted it down as a mod team. But we discussed possible options if people wanted a different type of forum. The idea that seemed like it might work the best would be to have two completely separate forums, run completely different ways, that were both linked from a common home page at the DTF.com url that everyone had become familiar with. That way, we would preserve the commonality between the two groups while having two separate groups that could be run how each of the two groups saw fit to run their separate community. In essence, this would give the best of both worlds. Or so I thought...
While these discussion were happening, without warning, Thal pulled the plug. DTF.com's forums disappeared. In its place was a page with a large Tard smiley saying the forums were in maintenance mode and would come back online shortly as...something new and different.
Well, once again, I figured I would move on to other things. But a few people from the DTF community contacted me and said they wanted the place to continue. Someone from the band also contacted me that night and told me he thought it was in DT's best interests if a DT-centered DTF continued on with me running it. He, Shawn, and I talked late into the night, which turned into early into the next morning. And before dawn broke, DTF.org was launched.
DTF.com re-opened as 5/8, and took a much different direction, of course. And while I personally may not agree with that direction, I have always made it clear that we come from the same history and that I am against any sort of "board war" or hostility between the two places. (I eventually reacquired DTF.com, by the way, which points back to this forum) And things have pretty much continued to bring us to where we are now. Onward and upward... :clarkkent:
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tl;ra (too long, read anyway).
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tl;ra (too long, read anyway).
:tup
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thanks for insight bosk and others...
I was very lightly involved at the time, and all I really knew was that one minute it was gone, the next something similar was there, then something better was there.
who'd a thought a whole volume was going on at the time :lol
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September will be five years here for me. Awesome.
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Had no idea DTF´s history was so dramatic! :lol Almost wiki worthy!
Very interesting read Bosk! :tup
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Had no idea DTF´s history was so dramatic! :lol Almost wiki worthy!
We had our own wiki at some point too. :lol (that was still DTF.com days before the split)
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I knew a lot of the history, but this is new to me:
Someone from the band also contacted me that night and told me he thought it was in DT's best interests if a DT-centered DTF continued on with me running it. He, Shawn, and I talked late into the night, which turned into early into the next morning. And before dawn broke, DTF.org was launched.
I've always been curious, but have never figured out who to ask, and it seems that you're as good a candidate as any. Why, when DT finally decided to have some official forums again following the release of ADTOE, didn't they just "re-adopt" DTF as the official forums? Was there any kind of contact made or discussions held?
It seemed perfectly logical to me. There is an established user base, the name Dream Theater is stamped on every page, and the place has always been run so as not to cast DT in any kind of bad light. The fact that the actual official DT forums are IMO total shit is beside the point, but it certainly doesn't seem to help any argument in favor of them. They literally run on the worst forum software I've ever seen, and I know that there are free alternatives out there that have many more and better features.
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Had no idea DTF´s history was so dramatic! :lol Almost wiki worthy!
We had our own wiki at some point too. :lol (that was still DTF.com days before the split)
:lol
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Long post
Holy crap, that brought back the memories like no other. I've always enjoyed diving into the past.
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I guess we need to make sure this thread gets saved in the archives now. :lol
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I'm all for it. I learned quite a few things I didn't know from reading your and Tim's posts. I'm still curious how I managed to log on and post on this forum on May 18, 2007 (the first day it was around) yet somehow my join date is September 5, 2007. Were we ever allowed to post without a handle and merely as a guest or something?
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I'm still curious how I managed to log on and post on this forum on May 18, 2007 (the first day it was around) yet somehow my join date is September 5, 2007. Were we ever allowed to post without a handle and merely as a guest or something?
??? Did you have a different account in the beginning? If not, the only explanation I can think of is that we had some problems importing member data after the crash a few years back, so maybe the data from your account was corrupted and shows a wrong join date.
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I did in 2000 and 2002 when I briefly posted for less than a month each time but I've uninterruptedly posted under the black_floyd handle since at least 2006 'round these parts.
It'd mean a lot to me to have my join date corrected since I was a member of DT.net since June 2006 so my activity in this community certainly predates the beginning of DTF.com/org. I've thought about it on a few occasions but always felt silly asking about something that seems so trivial but I guess now seems like a good time for me to address it.
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Okay. How's that?
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:rollin
Well played chief :) So whenever you change it back, though, do you think you could place the ol' 5/18/07 on it?
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Yeah. Funny thing is, I didn't specifically type in the 1969 date. I typed in "Before the levee broke," and it defaulted to that date.
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What kind of white devil magic handles that thing's data recognition :lol
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:dunno:
But on a related note, now that I've done that for you, how about returning the favor? I'd like some chicken from Willie May's, please. If you can't make it over to that side of town, Praline Connection is acceptable.
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Shall do. Just show up to the airport in a Drew Brees joizee :P
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:( I don't have one. The closest I can come is my Peyton Manning jersey. It has grass stains on the back, and I can have it autographed by Gregg Williams if it'll make you feel better.
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Nah, I only want winners. Alex Smith please.