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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: SystematicThought on May 14, 2012, 03:43:30 PM
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After I started collecting records, I really got into Toto after hearing Toto IV. Ever since then, I have all their records up until Fahrenheit. (The music just doesn't feel the same without Bobby).
I just have really enjoyed the stuff I've heard, but like mentioned before, I have trouble listening after Fergie Ferguson joined.
Any other Toto fans out there? It's not common for my age group to be Toto fans, but their sound is just excellent.
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I've always thought that they have a great sound. I have Toto IV and it's good, but other than that, I've never really dug into them. I think I encountered them at a time when I was getting more into prog, and they weren't proggy enough for me. The guys have great chops.
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I have all their CD's. Big fan. I am a huge fan of The Seventh One. You should try their later disks like Tambu, Mindfields and Falling in Between. My favorite album is Hydra.
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Toto is awesome. I'm constantly spinning their songs.
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Check out Falling in Between; it's really good.
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I have all their CD's. Big fan. I am a huge fan of The Seventh One. You should try their later disks like Tambu, Mindfields and Falling in Between. My favorite album is Hydra.
Next time I'm at the record shop, I'll check them out. I just really wish Bobby wasn't into the whole drugs thing back in '84. That lineup was great.
And I really love Hydra. The opening song is excellent, 99 isn't bad either. I'll need to re-listen to the others to get a good idea of which album I like.
Check out Falling in Between; it's really good.
Will do
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Not perfect but interesting cover:
Chaos Divine - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQb9_-wNVG8)
I'm going to see Toto this summer. :tup
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I saw TOTO IV on CD in a charity shop for £1.50
Purchased. :hat
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Not perfect but interesting cover:
Chaos Divine - Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQb9_-wNVG8)
I'm going to see Toto this summer. :tup
Different, but quite good.
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I saw TOTO IV on CD in a charity shop for £1.50
Purchased. :hat
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I own all their CD's. Big, big fan. Saw them on the 7th One tour. Had tickets to see them 5 years ago from the 8th row and they canceled. :'(
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Toto are awesome!!!! One of the best shows I've ever seen too!!!!
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I have a friend who is a big fan of Toto and westcoast music in general. Anyway his been on countless Toto gig since the 80s but he always tells me that one of the best Toto gig he's ever been to was in 1995 during the Tambu tour. He came into the venue and looked at the stage and saw a relatively small kit and was like....wtf? Where's Simons kit?
So what happend was that, can't remember why but Simon had to cancel that gig or tour and the filler was no other than Gregg Bissonette. He always tells me that Toto have never ever sounded better than that night when Gregg filled in, no diss to Simon because he's great no doubt about that but Gregg brought a certain groove than he hadn't heard since Jeff.
I'm glad I just found a snippet of Gregg playing with Toto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKpL07ly8fE
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Toto is simply awesome, saw them more than 10 times and every time was great.
Saw the tour where Gregg Bissonette filled in in Cologne/Germany, if I remember correctly Simon Philips had some back problems and couldn't sit or stand straight.
The concert I've been to was one of the first, if not the first with Gregg. It was great but you could see (not hear) that Gregg was somewhat insecure in his playing because he had to learn around 20 songs in a day or two. He had some kind of sheet music next to him and the band, especially Luke, gave him a lot of signs to signal the breaks or changes. Nonetheles he nailed it, but I wouldn't say that he was better than Simon Philips, just different.
And as good as these two drummers are, no one can beat Jeff Porcaro when it comes to a serious shuffle groove. I'm glad that I saw them two times with Jeff, one time begin the Greatest Hits tour and the other time was a one off show before Kingdom of Desire.
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Funny you guys bumped this, I ordered a box set called "The Collection" that has their first seven albums. Should get it towards the end of the month. :smiley:
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Toto is simply awesome, saw them more than 10 times and every time was great.
Saw the tour where Gregg Bissonette filled in in Cologne/Germany, if I remember correctly Simon Philips had some back problems and couldn't sit or stand straight.
The concert I've been to was one of the first, if not the first with Gregg. It was great but you could see (not hear) that Gregg was somewhat insecure in his playing because he had to learn around 20 songs in a day or two. He had some kind of sheet music next to him and the band, especially Luke, gave him a lot of signs to signal the breaks or changes. Nonetheles he nailed it, but I wouldn't say that he was better than Simon Philips, just different.
And as good as these two drummers are, no one can beat Jeff Porcaro when it comes to a serious shuffle groove. I'm glad that I saw them two times with Jeff, one time begin the Greatest Hits tour and the other time was a one off show before Kingdom of Desire.
Awesome to hear! :tup I've been to 3 tours so far: 25th Anniversary Tour, Falling In Between Tour and the summer tour for Mike. I think the last one was one of the better, Joseph was on fire.
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My last tour was the Falling In Between tour. Missed out on the last couple of summer tours and have never seen them with Joseph Williams. Hopefully they come again next summer and hopefully I will then have the time.
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RIP Fergie Frederiksen
:sadpanda:
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Very sad - R.I.P. Fergie.
Given the length of time Toto have been around and the couple of long serving lead vox they had (Kimball, Williams) it's pretty amazing how many diehard fans list Isolation (Fergie's only appearance) as their favourite.
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You're kidding me. RIP. :(
I love Frederiksen's last solo album, and some of those songs hit me hard given what he's been through recently. I think it's going to be even harder to listen to now, but I'm going to give it a spin in remembrance.
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I count my blessing that I made it through Lymphoma ever day. RIP Fergie.
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Wow, I'm sorry I had to see this thread because of the passing of a former member :-(.
R.I.P.
I have always been a big Toto fan... They were always the first album/cd I'd grab when I just felt like playin my drums to something and couldn't think of, or get into anything else at a particular moment (their whole catologue but especially up to and including Feirenheight when I was younger). I really like (and like jamming to) Through the Looking Glass as well... I guess the two albums I listen to the least are Isolation and Kingdom of Desire.
I've only seen Toto live 3 times... The first at the Californina World Music Festival in 79' (that was actually 2 times since they played both days), the second (unfortunately because of Jeff's death) at the tribute concert at the Universal Ampitheater in 92' (but man what a great concert and guest/set list), and the last time a few years back in Copenhagen.
I guess I only saw Toto as few times as I did because I as big a fan as I was, I was just as big a fan of Los Lobotomys with Lukather, Porcaro (and later Phillips) and various others, who I saw regularly at The Baked Potato in Studio City (midnight shows of course.... Should anyone be familiar with the place), you never knew who might show up there :-).
After looking up the 92 concert I can see there is a soundboard bootleg floating around which I think I'm gonna have to get a hold of (have no idea of the quality but I remember the performances being absolutely top notch... Of course), would be nice if they released a polished copy one day. Here's the set list from that show:
Disc One
Toto
1. Intro
2. Gypsy Train
3. Child's Anthem
4. I'll Supply The Love
5. I'll Be Over You
Michael McDonald
6. Michael McDonald Intro
7. I Keep Forgettin'
8. Takin' It To The Streets
Toto
9. Home Of the Brave
10. Dave Solo
11. Georgy Porgy
12. 99
13. If It's The Last Night
14. Angela
15. I Won't Hold You Back
16. Don't Stop Me Now
17. Africa
Donald Fagen
18. Donald Fagen Intro
19. Chain Lightning
Disc Two
Donald Fagen (cont.)
1. Josie
Toto
2. Little Wing
3. Kingdom Of Desire
4. Jake To The Bone
Boz Scaggs
5. Boz Scaggs Intro
6. Lowdown
7. Lido Shuffle
Disc Three
Toto
1. Angel Don't Cry
2. Don't Chain My Heart
3. Rosanna
Don Henley
4. Don Henley Intro
5. Dirty Laundry
6. You Better Hang Up
7. Come Rain Or Come Shine
Toto (with Eddie Van Halen)
8. Fire
9. Ain't Talkin''Bout Love
10. Hold The Line
11. Band Intros
Everybody, including George Harrison
12. With A Little Help From My Friends (Finale)
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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Very sad - R.I.P. Fergie.
Given the length of time Toto have been around and the couple of long serving lead vox they had (Kimball, Williams) it's pretty amazing how many diehard fans list Isolation (Fergie's only appearance) as their favourite.
Myself included. R.I.P Fergie
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Just heard about Fergie too. I had a feeling it was coming since he relapsed again. He put up such an amazing fight. Just got his Happiness album a week ago too.
This is from his official website.
It is with a very heavy heart I tell you that my sweet soulbrother Fergie Frederiksen passed away today January 18.
Fergie has been a true Champ, and a fighter, and for this he got several years extra with us, and actually a couple of extra albums that will be of great joy for fans all over the world for many more years to come.
Now, this has been a Journey for me as well. I started the unofficial Fergie Frederiksen website in the mid 90s, and by the end of the 90s me and Fergie agreed to make it his official website. It has been a joyride, of ups and downs (healthwise), musically only ups! I have loved it all along, to work with Fergie, he has been such a true and good friend to me. Last summer I went to Sweden for a couple of days to hang with him, and he really made my day when he dedicated the Toto song Endless (my all time favourite Toto song!) on stage. Magical for me!
So what now?
Well, we should all celebrate Fergies life and music, the way he impacted us all in such a great way is just start-touching for many of us!
If you still want to donate and contribute to Fergies Family, you can do so. Money now will be spent for his funeral and the costs around this and some events. Go here to donate:
https://www.gofundme.com/3ydgpo
My friend Fergie, thank you very much for all the good years, were you have been such a great part of my life, even a good friend. I wish you a safe journey, I will never forget you and the great moments we had together. Travel in peace…
Klaus
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I have always loved the hell out of Toto while I am listening to them, but for some reason have never really dug into their catalog at length. I have Toto IV, Greatest Hits, and Falling In Between.
I love their musicianship, groove, and songwriting, and the vocals are top notch. Just a great, great band.
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I have always loved the hell out of Toto while I am listening to them, but for some reason have never really dug into their catalog at length. I have Toto IV, Greatest Hits, and Falling In Between.
I love their musicianship, groove, and songwriting, and the vocals are top notch. Just a great, great band.
I'm sort of in the same boat. And considering the AOR bands I love, Toto should be something I know like the back of my hand.
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After looking up the 92 concert I can see there is a soundboard bootleg floating around which I think I'm gonna have to get a hold of (have no idea of the quality but I remember the performances being absolutely top notch... Of course), would be nice if they released a polished copy one day. Here's the set list from that show:
Disc One
Toto
1. Intro
2. Gypsy Train
3. Child's Anthem
4. I'll Supply The Love
5. I'll Be Over You
Michael McDonald
6. Michael McDonald Intro
7. I Keep Forgettin'
8. Takin' It To The Streets
Toto
9. Home Of the Brave
10. Dave Solo
11. Georgy Porgy
12. 99
13. If It's The Last Night
14. Angela
15. I Won't Hold You Back
16. Don't Stop Me Now
17. Africa
Donald Fagen
18. Donald Fagen Intro
19. Chain Lightning
Disc Two
Donald Fagen (cont.)
1. Josie
Toto
2. Little Wing
3. Kingdom Of Desire
4. Jake To The Bone
Boz Scaggs
5. Boz Scaggs Intro
6. Lowdown
7. Lido Shuffle
Disc Three
Toto
1. Angel Don't Cry
2. Don't Chain My Heart
3. Rosanna
Don Henley
4. Don Henley Intro
5. Dirty Laundry
6. You Better Hang Up
7. Come Rain Or Come Shine
Toto (with Eddie Van Halen)
8. Fire
9. Ain't Talkin''Bout Love
10. Hold The Line
11. Band Intros
Everybody, including George Harrison
12. With A Little Help From My Friends (Finale)
:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
I have this bootleg and the quality is superb.
I'd even go as far to say as the version I have does not require much, if anything to be released as an official live album under the Toto banner.
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That's really good to hear... After I posted I found the cover and saw that it is remastered from DAT so I had high hopes that it was good quality.
I found a couple of torrents, one around 375mb mp3 and another a little over a gb FLAC. I've only gotten to 75% on the mp3 version and the FLAC is totally inactive... I think if I'm patient (and have my computer on at the right time) the mp3 torrent will finish sooner or later (there was someone seeding with the whole file when I started... Then they disappeared). I also found a link on some guitar forum to a direct download site but it didn't finish and I didn't trust the site enough to pay for unlimited access...
Anyway, I'm looking even more forward to hearing it now :-).
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I think mine must be the remastered version, as I said quality is superb, perhaps the best bootleg I have ever heard.
I hope you can get the loss-less, if not I might be able to hook you up in some way or form.
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Thanks :-). I'll give it a couple weeks or so and see if any seeders pop upon the two torrents I found... If not I'll send you a PM and maybe we could figure something out with drop box or something like that.
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Toto is awesome! My favorite song by them is Africa. It's always my make me feel better song for some reason and that chorus. So sad that the singer died over the weekend though :sadpanda: *sad face*
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I finally got it downloaded last night through the "non torrent" site... It's a zipped file but I took a chance on unzipping it since it's a semi private file share (one person uploads and anyone with the link can download the file.... No uploading necessary). The (working) link is on the last page of this thread if anyone's interested.
If it's against fForum rules to post the link I'll remove it again... it's a bootleg that's 22 years old and not for profit so not sure if it's a grey area, allowed, or banned...
https://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/toto-the-jeff-porcaro-tribute-concert-soundboard-dat-version-remastered-52456.html (https://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90/toto-the-jeff-porcaro-tribute-concert-soundboard-dat-version-remastered-52456.html)
What a great recording... I didn't get it till late last night.... Listened through to Georgy Porgy and then started forwarding and listening to the start of the rest of the songs. I had to force myself to go to sleep around midnight (alarm clock rings at 4:45 every morning).
I actually think that the mix (sounding great for the most part without being too cleaned up) adds to the feeling of being there... And having been there I have to admit I was getting a little choked up listening to it... It was just a really intimate and personal feeling show (kind of like a blown up version of being at a Lukather (Los Lobotomys) show at the Baked Potatoe.
I don't even remember if we knew who the special guest were going to be (I'd have to dig out my ticket stub and see if they were mentioned) but we were just so blown away by everyone that was there. Really a once in a lifetime opportunity. I was also stoked (is that word even still used?) to see that SP was in the drum chair (being a Jeff Beck fan and after seeing his great performance on The Who's Tommy (on tv).
As much as I like all the frontmen Toto have had, I've always really liked Lukathers vocals as well (and the songs he sings) and I think he was really good on this performance (as the only frontman besides the guest).
I guess if I had to mention the negatives on this recording (which are FAR out weighed by the positive) it would be that there are a couple of "pops" or fall outs, Georgy Porgy fades out and back in again at some point, and the last song (not sure if there were others) changes quality drastically (sounds like a single mike recording or something). Not sure if it's just my copy or if they are all like that(?), but like I said it's really nit picking all things considered.
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Yeah it is a special recording, once in a lifetime, never to be repeated.
I agree Luke has a great voice, he's knows how to use it and its limitations.
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Very sad - R.I.P. Fergie.
Given the length of time Toto have been around and the couple of long serving lead vox they had (Kimball, Williams) it's pretty amazing how many diehard fans list Isolation (Fergie's only appearance) as their favourite.
I actually didn't know Isolation was that popular amongst fans. Haven't really dug my teeth into that album compared to the reast of their disco. I shall now spinn it all day to see what's all the fuzz is about. :metal
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I didn't like Isolation at all, which is a shame, because Frederiksen's last solo album made me a fan of his.
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Must've been an Aussie involved somewhere ;D
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Having an Aussie involved isn't at all mandatory to me disliking something, it just helps. :neverusethis:
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It's probably not that easy to find but I referenced another Fergie album in the album listening thread the other day - Fredericksen/Phillips which is quite stripped back AOR but has some decent songs on it. "Phillips" is Ricky Phillips from Styx/The Babys/Bad English.
It has a good version of Hopelessly Lost which is one of my favourite unreleased Mark Free demos - Fergie does quite a good job on it.
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I didn't like Isolation at all, which is a shame, because Frederiksen's last solo album made me a fan of his.
Really diggin the verse and bridge in Endless so far. Given that there's no real "hit song" on the album or any song that they still play live I have a feeling the album in that sense is regarded as a hidden treasure by fans.
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It's probably not that easy to find but I referenced another Fergie album in the album listening thread the other day - Fredericksen/Phillips which is quite stripped back AOR but has some decent songs on it. "Phillips" is Ricky Phillips from Styx/The Babys/Bad English.
It has a good version of Hopelessly Lost which is one of my favourite unreleased Mark Free demos - Fergie does quite a good job on it.
I'll have to check that one out.
The one album that introduced me to Fergie was the Frederiksen/Denander album, Baptizm of Fire. Great songs and of course great guitar playing by Tommy, really good cd.
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I didn't like Isolation at all, which is a shame, because Frederiksen's last solo album made me a fan of his.
i'm not much of a fan of that album either... I'l have to look up that solo album and the other one mentioned as well and give them a listen :-).
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How on earth could I miss this:
It has also been announced that long-time member drummer Simon Phillips will be departing the band to pursue his solo career and other interests. Luke shares, "He is still a dear friend and we wish him the very best and continued success," The band welcomes new addition Keith Carlock (Steely Dan, Sting, James Taylor, John Mayer). Carlock originally hails from Clinton, Mississippi, and has collaborated with Luke in the past in the jam band Toxic Monkey.
Keith Carlock is awesome but I really didn't see that coming. :omg:
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Following this thread I started listening to more Toto and man they are even better than I thought. I had listened to some best of record which I really liked but there's so much more great stuff out there. I will spend lots of time listening to them in the future.
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Little known fact, the members of Toto (before they were Toto) were the band for Boz Skaggs on his Silk Degrees album.
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Well, David Paich and Jeff Porcaro anyway. They were basically the core of the band, and Boz's band as well.
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Sort of like Frey and Henley with Linda Ronstadt.
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Lukather did a lot of guitarwork for Boz too.
Tbh you'd be surprised at just how many sessions the Toto guys played on back in the day, and how many hits they're responsible for. Steve Porcaro wrote MJ's Human Nature (!!!)
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And Jeff with Steely Dan of course!
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And Jeff with Steely Dan of course!
Oh, yes. RIP Jeff. No-one could groove like Jeff!
Its amazing to think that most people would have albums with songs either written or played by these guys in their CD collection without even knowing it :lol
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Lukather did a lot of guitarwork for Boz too.
Tbh you'd be surprised at just how many sessions the Toto guys played on back in the day, and how many hits they're responsible for. Steve Porcaro wrote MJ's Human Nature (!!!)
Yea man they bascially ruled the session musician market back in the day. A friend of my is a big fan of westcoast rock and have a huge collection of albums from that era and when you look in the credits of alot of those albums it's a pretty tight collective of muscians that's recurring and you'd be amazed how often a Toto guy is credited, pretty amazing actually.
Some guys doing a terrific cover of Africa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLrC7e3vSv8)
Man to this day I still love that song, a true definition of a great hit song.
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I think that's why the tribute concert sounds so good with all the guest... they all played on those songs with those artist... with the exception of Simon Phillips of course (not all of them on all of them but you know what I mean) and they just sound spot on.
Another one to remember too is MJ's Thriller.... I know at least Lukather and Porcaro appeared on that (lukes sound is so obvious when it comes in... don't remember the name of the song (my son went through a MJ phase when he died ;)).
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Yep they're pretty much all over that album:
Steve Lukather – guitar, bass guitar
David Paich – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
Jeff Porcaro – drums, horn and string arrangements
Steve Porcaro – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
Greg Phillinganes – keyboards, synthesizers, programming
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Must be a generational thing, because when I was a young Jaq, it was pretty common knowledge that Toto was composed mainly of a murderer's row of session musicians. Before Rosanna and Africa it was kind of their gimmick. :lol
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Must be a generational thing, because when I was a young Jaq, it was pretty common knowledge that Toto was composed mainly of a murderer's row of session musicians. Before Rosanna and Africa it was kind of their gimmick. :lol
And to thing you still remember too Jaq!! :lol
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New live DVD/BR 2CD set is out, anyone picking it up?
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New live DVD/BR 2CD set is out, anyone picking it up?
Should have it Mon or Tues.
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New live DVD/BR 2CD set is out, anyone picking it up?
Color me intrigued.
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I saw the preview clip of Hold the Line and it was solid, although I'm not interested enough to get it. I'm much more interested in the new album they're working on!
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Got it yesterday and watched it. So damn tight and I love the setlist. Better World was a big surprise!!
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Totally missed this. Just checked out HtL and Rosanna and even though i've seen him live i'm still amazed how good Joseph sounds. Of course he has some good genes in the musicians department.
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So glad they do Home Of The Brave live again and Can't Lovin' You is so fun to see live.
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I saw the preview clip of Hold the Line and it was solid, although I'm not interested enough to get it. I'm much more interested in the new album they're working on!
It's one of my all time fave songs and this version certainly to my ears, does it justice.
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Rosanna was playing on the bus ride to afterprom the other night and i thought it was cool
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I picked up the 2CD live set yesterday and it sounds amazing.
Can't wait for the BR to come to my mail box.
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I got the BR in the week and it's quite superb, cannot fault anything about.
Set list, sound (5.1) vision and editing are all top draw.
Joe was the one that really surprised me though, I didn't know he was this good and had such a range.
Driving along today in the car, my girlfriend and her daughter with me, I was playing the new live CD and they both
asked me what this 'pussy' music was? I had a chuckle and told them that Toto are a legendary band and that I do like some mellow stuff.
As I usually listen to power metal and that's all they both really know.
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That is such a funny story! :lol
My nieces and nephews ask me if I really listen to that music. :lol
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Just saw their Live in Poland on blu-ray and man did they top this one. Sound, performance, songs are top notch and Joseph sounds amazing. Truly happy with this one. Kind of hoped the Behind the scenes were a bit longer though but you can't have it all.
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Simon sure knows how to get the most perfect drumsound live. Love it!
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Cute girl but the guy behind her! :lol
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I can't wait for the new album. I'm glad they are continuing.
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I'm very excited to see them live now. I hoping they do a european leg next year. I heard that Nathan East is leaving in order to have time for other projects so they will bring in the original Toto bassist David Hungate. Now with Simon gone and Keith in it should be an interesting Toto line-up to watch. Can't wait!
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I figured Nathan so is it official about Hungate?
I also didn't know about Simon as well but Keith Carlock is incredible so I'm interested in this line up as well!
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I read it on wiki but found this, I guess this is more official than wiki:
https://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/03/28/it-seems-the-news-is-out-david-hungate-returns-to-toto-keith-carlock-will-tour-with-steely-dan/
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I read on Luke's site that Hungate is back for the USA leg of the summer tour.
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Yea maybe it's only for the US leg sadly. We'll see, would have been fun seeing him with Toto as it's his last time before he retire from the music biz.
On another note, have anyone else thought about the fact that Toto always do a very good job when they do medleys live? Love the change to Goodbye Elenore in the intro medley and the slightly faster tempo, such a delicate but important thing.
The first medley in Live in Amsterdam is one of my favourites though.
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Yeah that 25th anniversary medley is killer. I haven't watched that in a while. I need a weekend off dammit! My social life is killing my music viewing! :lol
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:lol
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Yeah they really nail down those medley's.
Child's Anthem is one of my fave songs, I wish they'd do a full version.
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I wouldn't call Steve Lukather underated given he's been a giant session guitarists for decades but he sure knows how to put down some really tasty leads. Like this one in I'll Be Over You:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBhNtmbiDUU#t=3m55s
The notes he chooses in the begin is just so damn tasty. I'm not a guitarist but the way he bangs the guitar at 4:18 to give a certain note a vibrato or something is pretty slick.
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Steve Lukather has absolutely phenomenal phrasing and one of the best vibratos. And he can shred too. If you want tasty melodic solos, there's no one better out there.
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I agree with that. Luke is amazing.
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Steve Lukather has absolutely phenomenal phrasing and one of the best vibratos. And he can shred too. If you want tasty melodic solos, there's no one better out there.
He and Neal Schon have very comparable styles. I've always thought of Lukather as a decent singer, as well.
I'd be reluctant to say he's underrated as a guitarist, though. He's just not a household name. Those who have followed him
over his many years in the business would rate him quite highly, I believe.
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Yea i'm not really sure why I even used the word underrated because he's far from it.
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Lukather is a great guitarist, but he's anything but underrated.
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"Underappreciated" maybe? Those who know who he is usually know how great he is, but for how great he is, he's not very well known, if that makes any sense. So not really underrated so much as just not being well known, considering how awesome he is.
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It might be to do with him being associated with Toto.
People know the big hits and nothing else, it would be easy not to know about Luke and how good a musician he is.
If your a guitarist or a serious fan of guitar players, then I reckon most would know and respect Luke as being up there with the best in the business.
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It might be to do with him being associated with Toto.
People know the big hits and nothing else, it would be easy not to know about Luke and how good a musician he is.
If your a guitarist or a serious fan of guitar players, then I reckon most would know and respect Luke as being up there with the best in the business.
"Underappreciated" maybe? Those who know who he is usually know how great he is, but for how great he is, he's not very well known, if that makes any sense. So not really underrated so much as just not being well known, considering how awesome he is.
Yea you guys said it better what I was going for. He's famous in Toto but if you ain't familiar with the members in Toto you probably won't know him as the studio session legend he is.
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He and Neal Schon have very comparable styles. I've always thought of Lukather as a decent singer, as well.
I love both guitarists because of their usually understated and melodic styles. I really like Lukather's vocals too, and Kingdom of Desire is one of my favourite Toto albums.
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Lucky enough to see Luke live 2 months ago. Great voice still and the dude still shreds.
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Finally!!
TOTO ANNOUNCES 2015 EUROPEAN TOUR
Toto will begin an extensive European tour in support of their forthcoming new album on May 21st 2015 in Glasgow, Scotland at the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall. Dates have been announced and are on sale for the UK, France, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, Hungary, Bulgaria, and Serbia. See the full list of dates below:
5/21/2015 - Glasgow, United Kingdom @ Royal Concert Hall
5/23/2015 - Dublin, Ireland @ Vicar Street
5/25/2015 - Manchester, United Kingdom @ O2 Apollo Manchester
5/26/2015 - London, United Kingdom @ HMV Hammersmith Apollo
5/28/2015 - Paris, France @ Zenith
5/29/2015 - Esch Sur Alzette, Luxembourg @ Rockhal
5/30/2015 - Amsterdam, Netherlands @ Ziggo Dome
6/2/2015 - Sonderborg, Denmark @ Mølleparkens Friluftscene
6/3/2015 - Copenhagen, Denmark @ Falkoner Theatre
6/4/2015 - Solvesborg, Denmark @ Sweden Rock Festival
6/6/2015 - Bergen, Norway @ Bergen Calling
6/7/2015 - Oslo, Norway @ Sentrum Scene
6/10/2015 - Bremerhaven, Germany @ Stadthalle
6/11/2015 - Berlin, Germany @ Tempodrome
6/12/2015 - Leipzig, Germany @ Parkbuhne
6/13/2015 - Dresden, Germany @ Junge Garde
6/15/2015 - Cologne, Germany @ Tanzbrunnen
6/16/2015 - Offenbach, Germany @ Stadthalle
6/17/2015 - Stuttgart, Germany @ Freilichtbuhne Killesberg
6/18/2015 - Abenberg, Germany @ Burg Abenberg
6/20/2015 - Hinwil, Switzerland @ Rock The Ring Festival
6/21/2015 - Klam, Austria @ Castle Clam
6/23/2015 - Wroklaw, Poland @ Orbita Hol
6/24/2015 - Warsaw, Poland @ Torwar
6/26/2015 - Budapest, Hungary @ Petofi Hall
6/27/2015 - Bucharest, Romania @ Sala Palatului
6/28/2015 - Sofia, Bulgaria @ Arena Armeec
6/30/2015 - Belgrade, Serbia @ Kalemegdan Fortress
7/8/2015 - München, Germany @ Olympiahalle
7/13/2015 - Morzine, France @ Morzine Harley Days
7/15/2015 - Nimes, France @ Festival de Nimes
7/16/2015 - Vienne, France @ Jazz a Vienne Festival
More shows will be announced in the new year along with details on the band's new album.
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:corn
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YES!!!!!!
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Alright!! They could tour this album AND Falling in Between's 10 year anniversary :lol
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Nasty looking album cover, but that's trivial. I can't wait to hear some music! :metal
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New album in March.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBf9hSkOPQ
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Looking forward to this - Joseph Williams is sounding better than ever live. I just hope they give it some balls - I'm all for plenty of soft stuff too but I hope they keep at least some of the edge they developed on albums like Mindfields and Falling In Between.
Home of the Brave rulz :metal ;D
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The EPK samples do sound very promising.
Falling In Between, is this album OOP already?
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Seems to be a very personal album to the band so I only hope that the album is interesting for anyone not involved in the recording process if you know what I mean. The teaser sounds promising though so i'm hopeful.
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New album in March.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBf9hSkOPQ
That trailer alone sounds better than anything from Falling in Between! I just can't wait for the album to arrive!
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The title track of Falling Inbetween was great, as was Bottom Of Your Soul, but this album sounds a bit more consistently what I like in melodic rock, rather than some of the weirder stuff.
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The title track of Falling Inbetween was great, as was Bottom Of Your Soul, but this album sounds a bit more consistently what I like in melodic rock, rather than some of the weirder stuff.
Title track and Bottom of Your Soul are the best of Falling in Between for sure! But the album as a whole was a big step down from Mindfields.
Like i said, can't wait for XIV!
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Toto collab with Skrillex! Yep it's reality and were talking Africa remix. Could be a giant re-birth for Toto if that remix becomes a hit. Could of course also pass by like a molden fart and no one notice it.
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Wow, that's weird.
Hope it turns out OK.
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It will probably be unrecognizable crap once Skrillex is through with it. I'm not sure there's much overlap of their target audiences, but hopefully it gives Toto a bit of additional exposure.
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Toto - Orphan (https://youtu.be/xtAd90SD6JM)
Interesting, interesting.
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I enjoy this tune and look forward to the new album. Thanks to kingshmeg for introducing me...
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Awesome! Not a big fan of Lukather's solo though.
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I think it will be a good live song. Some tasty bass lines by David Hungate.
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2014-04-28 BUDOKAN - Stop Loving You + Keith Calock Drums Solo + Hold The Line (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7RUdgXgqQE)
Good stuff! Keith plays with such great feel and groove, love it! Have to say after hearing the new song + this I get alot of Jeff vibes from him both in terms of groove and straight beat. I do know though that Steve Porcaro have mentioned that the first time they played with Shannon Forrest who substitutes for KC during the upcoming tour was like playing with Jeff all over again. That's kind of a funny comment given that KC have official joined the band. Both drummers are great though so there's nothing to really say.
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Can't wait to hear the new album. Rumors are flying of a Yes/Toto tour!
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Yea can't wait! Looked the YES rumor up and yea I wouldn't be surprised if that's not 99% confirmed when Paich himself says: "We're gonna be touring with Yes"! :rollin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbtsGT1nPwc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbxBd3QjsBk
That's really awesome!!
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Toto - Orphan (Official Video / 2015 / New Studio Album) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnQORhbCWE)
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Man I can't wait for this album.
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New song:
Toto - Holy War (https://youtu.be/-fufU6fyZAo)
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I like that - although as a few have commented in the Youtube listing the drumming just doesn't sound like Toto to me. There's some good stuff in there but the verses are way too basic.
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I like that - although as a few have commented in the Youtube listing the drumming just doesn't sound like Toto to me. There's some good stuff in there but the verses are way too basic.
Basic drum wise?
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I've seen that drummer with Steely Dan. basic is not a word I would use with his playing.
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I was gonna say, when I think of Toto, or Jeff Porcaro, I think of groove. Which you could consider basic. Even though Jeff and Simon could shred drums, they knew when to keep it basic and just groove.
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"Basic" possibly wasn't the best word to use and I did point out that there's plenty to like and yes........great drummer. I just don't get the Toto vibe in the verse and that may be lack of "groove" rather than technique. It just sounds like something's missing to me.
I'm a big fan of Simon in Toto and so maybe my ears are just having trouble adjusting after all this time.
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I was gonna say, when I think of Toto, or Jeff Porcaro, I think of groove. Which you could consider basic. Even though Jeff and Simon could shred drums, they knew when to keep it basic and just groove.
Porcaro's playing on the Dire Straits album " On Every Street " defines "tasteful".
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"Basic" possibly wasn't the best word to use and I did point out that there's plenty to like and yes........great drummer. I just don't get the Toto vibe in the verse and that may be lack of "groove" rather than technique. It just sounds like something's missing to me.
I'm a big fan of Simon in Toto and so maybe my ears are just having trouble adjusting after all this time.
No I can kinda hear what you're saying there. I think for me just the fact that the song is just kinda, middle of the road.
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!00% from MR, no surprise there :)
https://melodicrock.com/articles/reviews/2015/02/20/toto-xiv-review#.VOaqihjLR28.facebook
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This song sounds a bit average. I much preferred the first one they released.
I'm still quite excited for this album. Hopefully there are some harder rockin' songs on there, or something a bit different. The production sounds great, so that already puts it off to a good start.
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!00% from MR, no surprise there :)
https://melodicrock.com/articles/reviews/2015/02/20/toto-xiv-review#.VOaqihjLR28.facebook
MR.com at it again. :lol
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It's one person's opinion, nothing more.
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Audio interview with Lukather
https://www.insidemusicast.com/musicasts/2015/3/2/steve-lukather.html
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The new album has leaked, and with the Japanese version with the exclusive bonus track too.
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RIP Mike Porcaro!! :'(
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Sad, sad day.
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RIP. :(
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RIP Mike! :(
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:( RIP Mike, The Groovemaster.
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very sad day.
Toto is probably one of the most underrated bands ever.
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Very sorry to hear this :'(
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Heard the news, RIP
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Yeah, just read the news on MR.com. Very sad day indeed....May you rest in peace, Mike.
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So glad I got hold of tickets for the summer tour. I have a feeling this may be their final tour. The reason they did the "reunion" in the first place was to support Mike Porcaro.
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Got the new album. So far "Running Out Of Time", "Chinatown" & Great Expectations" stick out.
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The new album sounds definitely like Toto, there's like sounds from every previous album on it. Have only listened to it once and it didn't really convince me, but so did the last Lukather solo album and now it's one of my favorites.
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Toto & YES Join Together For Late Summer North American Tour
26 Date Tour Gets Underway On August 7th
World-renowned recording artists, YES and Toto, today announced they will join forces this summer for a co-headlining North American tour. Among the world’s most influential, ground-breaking, and respected progressive rock bands, Grammy Award winning YES has sold nearly 40 million albums in a career that has so far spanned more than four decades. YES continues with its tradition of symphonic progressive rock that remains timelessly fresh and innovative.
Since its founding in 1968, YES has created much of rock history’s most important music, including iconic pieces like ‘Roundabout,’ 'Close to the Edge,’ ‘I’ve Seen All Good People,’ “Owner of a Lonely Heart,’ ‘Starship Trooper,’ and countless others. Its albums, including ‘Fragile,’ ‘Close to the Edge,’ ‘Tales from Topographic Oceans,’ and ‘90125,’ have been certified multi-platinum, double-platinum, platinum, and more by the RIAA. YES continues to inspire millions of musicians, fans, and music lovers around the world.
“We’re thrilled to be hitting the road with Toto. Yes have always been big fans of Toto’s music, and we think the fans are going to really enjoy seeing both of us together,” says YES co-founder and bassist, Chris Squire.
YES will be releasing a new live CD/DVD (recorded at the Mesa Arts Center in Mesa, Arizona) entitled Like It Is on July 7th.
Few ensembles in the history of recorded music have individually or collectively had a larger imprint on pop culture than the members of Toto. As individuals, the band members can be heard on an astonishing 5000 albums that together amass a sales history of a half a billion albums. Amongst these recordings, NARAS applauded the performances with more than 200 Grammy nominations.
With over 35 years together and thousands of credits and accolades to their names, Toto remains one of the top selling touring and recording acts in the world. They recently released their first new studio album in ten years – TOTO XIV which debuted last week Top 10 in nine countries around the world. Prior to the tour with YES, Toto are embarking on a European headline arena tour with appearances at key festivals.
"We are so honored to be touring with our musical hero's YES,” remarked founder/guitarist Steve Lukather. “Life changing music for me and the guys and we even have a song on our new record totally inspired by them so it is a lifelong love of their music that has kept us fans to this day. We all stood and waited in line for tix to see Close to the Edge and Topographic.. many many shows as young upcoming musicians/fans in the 70's and were blown away and inspired to be better musicians and composers by Yes' amazing music, musicianship and insanely cool live shows. This is a crazy dream come true for us and we can’t wait to do this tour and to make new friends and solidify old friendships.”
Tickets for most shows go on sale this week. VIP ticketing information to come this afternoon.
TOTO & YES 2015 SUMMER TOUR
8/7 Mashantucket CT Grand Theater at Foxwoods
8/8 Newark NJ New Jersey PAC
8/9 Atlantic City NJ Borgata Hotel Casino
8/11 Brooklyn NY Barclays Center
8/12 Baltimore MD Pier Six Pavilion
8/14 Huber Heights OH Music Center at The Heights
8/15 Sterling Heights MI Freedom Hill Amphitheatre
8/16 Chicago IL FirstMerit Bank Pavilion at Northerly
8/18 Des Moines IA Iowa State Fair - Grandstand
8/19 Saint Charles MO Family Arena
8/21 Biloxi MS Beau Rivage Resort & Casino - Beau Rivage Theater
8/22 Alpharetta GA Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre
8/23 Clearwater FL Ruth Eckerd Hall
8/25 Houston TX Cynthia Woods Pavilion
8/26 San Antonio TX Majestic Theatre
8/27 Grand Prairie TX Verizon Theatre at Grand Prairie
8/30 Littleton CO Denver Botanic Gardens - Chatfield
8/31 Salt Lake City UT Red Butte Garden Amphitheatre
9/2 Tucson, AZ AVA Amphitheater
9/4 Scottsdale AZ Talking Stick Resort & Casino
9/5 Pala CA Pala Casino - Starlight Theater
9/6 Los Angeles CA The Greek Theatre
9/8 Saratoga CA Mountain Winery
9/10 Shelton WA Little Creek Casino Resort - Event Center
9/11 Airway Heights WA Northern Quest Resort & Casino
9/12 Coquitlam BC Hard Rock Casino - Vancouver
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Well, I am completely not shocked that this tour is coming nowhere near me :lol
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Strange pairing, if you ask me. Though I really like YES, Toto will play circles around them. And if the listeners aren't totally prog-snobs that sneer at everything that sounds remotely like pop, Toto will definitely steal the show.
The Yes-members are clearly past their prime, while the playing in Toto is still top-notch.
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Even Yesfans are saying the same thing. Well, a lot of them are. Many are prog-snobs who are aghast that Toto and Yes are on the same bill. I've always thought Toto had more chops than the average pop band, and I have no problem with it.
Steve Lukather was recently interviewed by Something Else! (https://somethingelsereviews.com/2015/04/06/toto-yes-2015-tour-steve-lukather/) and he talked about how there are actually a lot of connections between the two bands. I knew of some of them, but this is quite a list.
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On the face of it, it does seem like a strange pairing. But I like strange pairings, and I would LOVE to see a show like this.
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Although I find it strange I would love to see it too but this pairing seems to be US only.
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cool interview with David Paich on writing/recording "Africa", an all-time favorite song of mine.
https://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/q80s-totos-dave-paich-on-writing-and-recording-africa/
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:tup
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It's amazing how catchy the chorus in Africa is even to this day. Which makes this comment even more funny:
“We hadn’t the faintest idea that this was going to be a hit, maybe until the head of Columbia Records called us and said, ‘You know that they’re starting to play this song “Africa”?
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They don't make 'em like they used to.......
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Such a great song.
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Hopefully this hasn't been linked before - great interview with Luke from a couple of years ago that , amongst other things, sheds a lot of light on the various singers and who got close.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/steve-lukather-interview/
I found it particularly interesting to know how close we were to having guys like Eric Martin and Michael McDonald singing for them.
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40 Year-Old Virgin made me realise how annoying Michael McDonald's voice can get, so I'm glad he didn't get the part. His back up vocals on I'll Be Over You always make me lol.
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Toto was amazing the other day. I've seen them 3 times and I probably rank this the highest. Williams killed it and Shannon Forrest was the closest thing to hearing Jeff all over again, seriously! They were on fire and the sound was great. Some of my friends thought the set list was a bit of a let down given they skipped a few hits, nothing that bothered me though.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/toto/2015/falkoner-teatret-copenhagen-denmark-43c9839b.html
Stranger In Town, Never Enough, Running Out Of Time and Orphan was great hearing live.
Shannon Forrest
Lenny Castro
David Hungate
Steve Porcaro
Steve Lukather
Joseph Williams
David Paich
That line up alone is pretty unique and I urge anyone fan or not to see them live this tour.
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Williams without Home of the Brave :tdwn But on the other hand Caught In The Balance is a nice surprise :tup :tup
Barely a bad word to be found about Toto live these days - hopefully they make it out to Australia again.
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Williams without Home of the Brave :tdwn But on the other hand Caught In The Balance is a nice surprise :tup :tup
Barely a bad word to be found about Toto live these days - hopefully they make it out to Australia again.
Yea HotB is always fun live, can't say I missed it given there were so many other great moments during the show. Hungates levitating bass was hilarious. Not really levitating but he didn't use a strap so his bass was on a stand but you couldn't see it so it looked like it levitated.
Holds my thumbs for Australia. :)
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THE ROAD GOES ON!!!!!!!!!!! :metal
Holy shit! I would kill to see that song live!
I saw them last year and I was floored how good this line up was.
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THE ROAD GOES ON!!!!!!!!!!! :metal
Holy shit! I would kill to see that song live!
I saw them last year and I was floored how good this line up was.
Yea it's a great song, here's a clip from the tour: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQmkPCzlnc
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That was excellent. I've got a managers meeting in August in Columbus OH and the last night Toto is playing outside of Columbus. I wonder if I can talk my boss into going!
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Can't wait to see Toto for the first time in just a few more weeks! Anyone else planning on going to the Yes/Toto US tour?
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If they happen to pop in to Australia ,I'll be there for sure.
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Can't wait to see Toto for the first time in just a few more weeks! Anyone else planning on going to the Yes/Toto US tour?
I just saw them last year for the first time since 1987. Great live show!
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Anyone catch the Toto/Yes tour yet? The weather is shit (cold and windy( and I'm tired as hell and I'm considering not going as it's a two hour drive each way.
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Toto - Africa - Live Montreux 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL-GOxDqrFE)
Pamela - Live Montreux 2015 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET3mkgt4FdA)
That percussion section! Nice seeing Lenny Castro with Toto again, his Conga tones are silky smooth. Then we have Shannon which reminds me of Jeff in some ways in keeping it simple, in time but still groovy. Had no problem with Simon just to be clear but there's something about Shannon that feels spot on. When I saw them last summer he just instantly felt like he had played in the band for years.
BTW Hungate does a slick bass line at 3:54 in Pamela.
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Lenny Castro is such an integral part of the trademark Toto sound and he played an almost all of their studio albums, he could as well be a member of the band.
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So Toto ain't amused by this :lol Not sure if it's the local promoter or Bobby but either way it's pretty funny:
https://m.facebook.com/totoband/photos/a.10150334890745954.340458.18554375953/10153969751895954/?type=3&source=48&__tn__=E
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First I've heard of this, but apparently it's been going on for years. If that's true, then there's no chance that Bobby isn't aware of it.
The ticket doesn't say "Former lead singer of Toto", it says "Toto" at the top.
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Just saw Toto last month. Excellent show but the casino cut their set short. I fucking hate casinos. I heard at Casino shows the band is normally pretty easy to find so I brought my XIV CD to get signed (excellent album...one of their best IMO). I saw two roadies walking down the hall with all the requisite Toto paraphernalia and I said, "I can't wait to see those guys tonight! Do you know if they'll be signing autographs after the show?" One roadie sort of looked at the other and they were like, "Uh, maybe."
As I got the elevator I had this weird feeling.
It was confirmed as I saw David Paich take the stage.
That was him in the hallway.
He's a lot shorter in person and without his tophat and stage attire he's pretty easy to miss.
I never did see any other members and went prowling around the casino for quite a while.
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So Toto ain't amused by this :lol Not sure if it's the local promoter or Bobby but either way it's pretty funny:
https://m.facebook.com/totoband/photos/a.10150334890745954.340458.18554375953/10153969751895954/?type=3&source=48&__tn__=E
Yes, this is going on for years (or even decades) and has led to many arguments. This is clearly Bobby's doing, or at least he's not stopping the promoter. And it's sad but kinda understandable from his point of view. No one is going to see him without Toto, he isn't a big name outside of the band and his voice is shot and you get the feeling that he's needing money.
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Nice cover of Toto's Endless:
Fanfields (Toto Tribute) - Endless (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stodektyd5A)
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New album on the way. Not too surprising but nice to see they still going strong.
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/toto-40th-anniversary-album/
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Good news. That will be quite a short span between albums considering how long it took for XIV. There were some really good songs on that one, but the production lets it down a bit for me.
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Awesome!!
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Good news. That will be quite a short span between albums considering how long it took for XIV. There were some really good songs on that one, but the production lets it down a bit for me.
Agree with everything you said...
I love that they are still writing new material. They haven't sounded this good in ages!
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Awesome! Hopefully I'll get a chance to see them this time since I missed out on the last tour.
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Kingdom Of Desire (my favorite Toto album), Tambu and Mindfields, (imo) are much stronger albums than Falling In Between and XIV.
I'm actually surprised that Luke isn't working on another solo album between two Toto studio releases.
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I just watched some vids of Toto on Youtube from the last five years. How the hell does Joseph Williams still sing that good at his age?
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Disagree an Tambu, that one was very lackluster. Falling In Between is a killer record and XIV was really good and has songs/sounds that were very reminiscent of their long carrer and their different styles.
Excited for the new one. :metal
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Tambu is a really strong album imo. Only two of their albums feel subpar to me: Falling in Between and Turn Back..
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I love, love, love Tambu.
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I was revisiting XIV yesterday and it's a shame how muddy/ bass heavy the sound is. Gems like the opener Running Out Of Time (killer chorus) deserved bettter. It's especially disappointing for a band like Toto. I'm a little audiophile, so I can't bring myself to listen to a sound like that.
I'm having the suspicion, that the production isn't really that bad, but that something went wrong at the mixing and mastering stage.
To clean my ears, I played Mindfields. Better World is epic. I'd kill to hear that song live. Does anybody hear the bell in Caught In The Balance ?
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I was revisiting XIV yesterday and it's a shame how muddy/ bass heavy the sound is. Gems like the opener Running Out Of Time (killer chorus) deserved bettter. It's especially disappointing for a band like Toto. I'm a little audiophile, so I can't bring myself to listen to a sound like that.
I'm having the suspicion, that the production isn't really that bad, but that something went wrong at the mixing and mastering stage.
To clean my ears, I played Mindfields. Better World is epic. I'd kill to hear that song live. Does anybody hear the bell in Caught In The Balance ?
Yeah, they smooshed the bass on XIV. If it weren't for that, it would be a good sounding album. It's a nice mix, they just fucked the mastering, as is all too common.
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This band is still around? My parents played the shit out of "Africa" when I was a kid. I would have been willing to give them a chance if it was just one parent, but it was both, which meant for 12 year old Cool Chris, they had to be totally square.
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Re some of the above:
- I never got into the Luke fronted albums much - Tambu , KoD never did much for me.
- my "go to" albums are s/t , IV , Isolation, The Seventh One and Mindfields.
- Caught In The Balance is one of my all time favourite Toto songs and , while it could do with a haircut , I think Midfields is sorely under rated.
- XIV did little for me and , on my copy at least, the sound was crackling at times.....shocking how they let that through unless I just have a dud copy.
I'm always keen on a new album and will look forward to it. Joseph seems to be kicking butt live so hopefully they'll visit us out here with him out front. I have seen them once - must've been Falling In Between tour??? Had Leland Sklar on bass and Greg Phillinganes on keys. I remember the venue security were getting pretty heavy handed telling people to stay in their seats and not run up to the stage front. Luke told them to fuck off and let the crowd be :lol
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This band is still around? My parents played the shit out of "Africa" when I was a kid. I would have been willing to give them a chance if it was just one parent, but it was both, which meant for 12 year old Cool Chris, they had to be totally square.
You're missing out on this stuff. :p
Dave's Gone Skiing (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOaSUHh7ZGs)
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I just watched some vids of Toto on Youtube from the last five years. How the hell does Joseph Williams still sing that good at his age?
Yea his voice is holding up well, i've seen them two times live with Joseph since he came back and both times i've been equally surprised how good he sounds, sure he struggles with some of those really high notes but it's miles better than Bobby imo.
Too answer your question: Have no idea :lol
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To be fair to Bobby vs Joe at this point...............Joe is mid 50's and Bobby is almost 70 . Bobby can still do it in the studio but live he seems to struggle , not only with his voice but with his hearing/monitors.
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That's true, actually I didn't know he was that much older.
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Brent, surprised that you don't like Kingdom Of Desire that much, it's probably my favorite because it just rocks and I thought you were more of a rock guy :biggrin:
Mindfields is great also, could have done with one or two tunes less but still great nonetheless.
Thinking about it, there are no really weak Toto records for me, I just love this band so much :metal :metal :metal
Thought that XIV was a good return but agree that the sound/production isn't that great. Really surprising, because all of their records had stellar production and mastering.
Bobby struggles live for a long time, and he always was more of a "belter" than a singer and his age is just taking his toll. Williams had some rough times vocally, that's why he was sacked after The Seventh One, but he seems to have recovered and now really takes care of his voice.
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Brent, surprised that you don't like Kingdom Of Desire that much, it's probably my favorite because it just rocks and I thought you were more of a rock guy :biggrin:
Ditto for me. Even though Lukather isn't the best vocalist, I like his voice, and KOD is more straight up rock for them.
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I just got KoD out just now - skipped the first track half way through. As a rule yes .......I would rather something rocks but I'm also big on melodies and a lot of the stuff on KoD is guitar heavy but more in a blues rock band way and I find a lot of it monotonous , even if it does "groove". Songs that rock and have big melodies are my thing - Caught In The Balance, Isolation/Carmen, Home Of The Brave , Hold The Line. I also love their softer stuff too like Africa, Rosanna , MAd About You , I'll Be Over You etc....
Speaking of production Mindfields is also a ripper in that department.
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I just got KoD out just now - skipped the first track half way through. As a rule yes .......I would rather something rocks but I'm also big on melodies and a lot of the stuff on KoD is guitar heavy but more in a blues rock band way and I find a lot of it monotonous , even if it does "groove". Songs that rock and have big melodies are my thing - Caught In The Balance, Isolation/Carmen, Home Of The Brave , Hold The Line. I also love their softer stuff too like Africa, Rosanna , MAd About You , I'll Be Over You etc....
Speaking of production Mindfields is also a ripper in that department.
KOD is certainly different, and it's not up to earlier albums in terms of the big vocals when all you've got is Lukather, but it still has its share of melody too. Even though it's a softer track, Wings Of Time is a favourite of mine.
If you specifically want that big Toto sound though, it will probably leave you wanting.
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I love almost everything Toto, I'm just a complete fanboy so everything I say is completely subjective. :biggrin:
I really like the softer stuff and the ballads, some are cheesy but in a good way. But I always thought of Toto as a rock band and for years I was thinking "what if they put out a record that's almost completely rock"? And then they did and it was totally different from what I imagined, it's not really the Toto of IV or Seventh One or Isolation, but although Lukather had a lot of influence on that it's also very different from his solo records. It's another facette of their musical diversification.
I love Gypsy Train, heavier than everything they've done. Kingdom Of Desire is just a great rock anthem, Wings Of Time is a subtle, deeply moving piece with intricate guitar work, Jake To The Bone is a fun fusion track (always introduced live as a track you can dance to :D), Never Enough is a classic with a proggy ending etc. I could do without Kickdown The Walls and the two power ballads (2 Hearts, Only You) are not among their strongest, but the fact that it's Jeff Porcaro's final record probably contributes to my feeling for KoD as well. Add to that the fact that I saw them live on a one off gig with Jeff (probably one of his last) before the album came out, where they already played a couple of tunes from KoD. It's just one of that desert island discs for me, and probably one of my most played records over time.
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Well, after reading all this I threw on Mindfields this morning.
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There are a lot of worse ways to start a new day :tup
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The sleeper Toto album for me is Farenheit. So good.
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Great album but loses me a little towards the end. I'm not that keen on Lea and Don't Stop Me Now, decent tunes but not more. Same goes for Fahrenheit (the track).
Till The End, Without Your Love, I'll Be Over You, Can't Stand It Any Longer are killer tunes.
But there really is no bad Toto record imo.
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Can't stand it any longer is a killer tune.
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Anyone catching them this summer? Seeing them in august, can't wait! Also the first time seeing them outdoors. :tup
Anyone knows who the bass and sax player are?
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18836650_10154657525240954_2165196841965655154_o.jpg?oh=1bd13384d0b765a68ac77e562d9876ab&oe=59A3D196)
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I'm seeing them in June in a new small venue 30 minutes from my house.
As for the lineup,
Lukather and fellow core Toto members David Paich, Steve Porcaro and Joseph Williams will be joined by Lenny Castro, Shannon Forest, Shem von Schroeck and Warren Ham on this tour. Lukather and Ham are also both veterans of Ringo Starr‘s All-Starr Band
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/toto-2017-summer-tour/
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I'm seeing them in June in a new small venue 30 minutes from my house.
As for the lineup,
Lukather and fellow core Toto members David Paich, Steve Porcaro and Joseph Williams will be joined by Lenny Castro, Shannon Forest, Shem von Schroeck and Warren Ham on this tour. Lukather and Ham are also both veterans of Ringo Starr‘s All-Starr Band
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/toto-2017-summer-tour/
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Never heard of those two, checked out Shem von Schroeck and he has quite the resume. Besides playing bass, sing and being a multi-instrumentalist with everyone as it seems he also apparently has a career as a opera singer. That's pretty impressive.
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I would like to see them, last Toto concert I saw is some years ago, but probably not going to make it.
Is Shem von Schroeck a real name? :lol
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TOTO CELEBRATE “40 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN”
ANNOUNCE FIRST RUN OF DATES &
NEW SONY ALBUM IN SUPPORT OF
40TH ANNIVERSARY IN 2018
New Album To Be Released On Sony Music’s Legacy Recordings Worldwide In February Of 2018 Will Contain Classic Remastered Hits Alongside Brand New Tracks
Los Angeles, CA --- TOTO is pleased to announce the first set of shows in support of the band’s 40th Anniversary beginning in 2018. The 40 Trips Around The Sun Tour will begin in February 2018 in Europe. The tour will be the band’s most extensive run in years and will be a worldwide tour to celebrate the band’s enduring career. More shows will be announced shortly. Tickets for most shows go on sale this Friday.
Along side the launch of the tour, TOTO along with Legacy Recordings have created a brand new Greatest Hits package. also titled: 40 Trips Around The Sun. The album will feature brand new previously unreleased music along side newly remastered classic tracks worked on by Elliot Scheiner & Gavin Lurssen and his team. The core Toto members, Steve Lukather, David Paich, Steve Porcaro, Joseph Williams re-entered the studio this past year to work on the material. Full details on that album along side many other projects the band has in the works with Legacy Recordings will be announced at a later date.
“Myself, David, Steve and Joseph are humbled and thrilled at the long lasting success of the band,” Steve Lukather remarked. “This 40th Anniversary tour is going to be a special one for us and all of the fans that come out. On top of all that, it’s really exciting to be working with Sony Music again. We’ve spent a lot of time this year working on new music and re-mastering the older tracks.”
Few ensembles in the history of recorded music have individually or collectively had a larger imprint on pop culture than the members of TOTO. As individuals, the band members can be heard on an astonishing 5000 albums that together amass a sales history of a half a billion albums. Amongst these recordings, NARAS applauded the performances with more than 200 Grammy nominations.
With close to 40 years together and literally thousands of credits, including the biggest selling album of all time: Michael Jackson’s Thriller, and accolades to their names, TOTO remains one of the top selling touring and recording acts in the world. They are the benchmark by which many artists base their sound and production, and they continue to transcend the standards set by the entire music community, being simply synonymous with musical credibility. Their repertoire continues to be current via high profile usage on broadcast television. They are pop culture, and are one of the few 70’s bands that have endured the changing trends and styles to a career enjoy a multi-generational worldwide fan base.
TOTO – 2018 - 40 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN TOUR
2/19 Hamburg, DE - Mehr! Theater
2/21 Dusseldorf, DE - Mitsubishi-Electric Hall
2/22 Munich, DE - Olympiahalle
2/24 Berlin, DE - C-Halle
2/25 Leipzig, DE - Haus Auensee
2/28 Krakow, PL Tauron Arena
3/2 Vienna, AT - Gasometer
3/10 Milan, IT - Mediolanum Forum
3/13 Stuttgart, DE - Porsche Arena
3/15 Lille, FR - Zenith
3/17 Amsterdam, NL - Ziggo Dome
3/18 Brussels, BE - Forest National
3/20 Offenbach, DE - Stadthalle
3/23 Bologna, IT - Unipol Arena
3/25 Marseille, FR - Dome
3/26 Toulouse, FR - Zenith
3/27 Lyon, FR -Halle Tony Garnier
3/30 Paris, FR - La Seine Musicale
4/1 London, UK - Royal Albert Hall
4/2 Manchester, UK - Bridgewater Hall
4/4 Dublin, IE - Vicar Street
4/7 Belfast, UK - Waterfront Auditorium
4/8 Glasgow, UK - SEC Armadillo
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Oh, great, nothing better than another greatest hits package.
I hope there are enough new tracks to make it interesting but a new studio album would be so much better.
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Yeah we really need yet another Toto best of/greatest hits?
I guess it makes sense with being back on Sony (CBS) and the remasters coming out next year.
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Tot tonight folks!!!! 6th row in a new small theater 30 minutes from my house! :metal
https://tickets.tupelohall.com/
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Tot tonight folks!!!! 6th row in a new small theater 30 minutes from my house! :metal
https://tickets.tupelohall.com/
Awesome, have fun! Can't wait for august! :tup
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I haven't even checked out the Set list! Can't wait to be surprised!
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The set list contains no real surprises, apart from a Hendrix cover in the middle of the show.
Seriously WTF are they doing playing that instead of one of their own songs?
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It's something they did on 1991 and the video of that so is going to be released. My wife got a pic of the setlist on the stage before the show. Can't post it here. I don't want to spoil it for others.
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Luke has played Hendrix covers on his solo tours too, so it's probably his decision. But I'm not sure if it is needed as they have enough great songs of their own.
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Great show last night!! :tup
First time seeing them at an outdoor venue so I was a bit worried about the sound but it was crystal clear. This is the third time seeing them with Joseph and he just sounds better and better, I mean he basically nails all the high vocal parts that Bobby struggled with.
I'm really diggin Shannon Forrest on drums, he's the closest drummer they ever had to Jeff.
I'm not sure if it was Shannons decision or the band but many of the songs had a bit lower tempo than usual or actually more closer to their original tempos and I loved that, it made the songs breath a bit more and brought more life to the songs live imo. I read some comments on the internet saying he dragged the tempo down but I didn't get that feeling at all, because as I said the tempo was slower from the beginning but he still very much played in the pocket.
Overall the band sounded great as usual and with lots of energy.
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Sounds like a good show. I really don't like it when bands feel like they have to speed everything up when they play live because it's "more exciting" or "more rocking" or something. Most of the time it just sounds rushed to me, and the songs have no room to breathe, so it's interesting that you made that same observation.
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Some bands/songs really call for faster tempos, but Toto music isn't about the high energy, it's about that precise groove, so I think slower tempos serve them better.
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Exactly.
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Sounds like a good show. I really don't like it when bands feel like they have to speed everything up when they play live because it's "more exciting" or "more rocking" or something. Most of the time it just sounds rushed to me, and the songs have no room to breathe, so it's interesting that you made that same observation.
Yea that's the feeling I got. What's interesting is that no song felt too slow or anything like that, instead it just made them more groovy. 99 was especially sweet, probably the best version i've heard by them.
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Can someone recommend me a first Toto album to check out?
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Can someone recommend me a first Toto album to check out?
Hydra -- Older.
Falling In Between -- Newer.
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I wouldn't recommend Hydra for a start, it's not that easy to get into imo.
I would start with either their debut (Toto) or with The Seventh One.
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I'll second the choice of the debut.
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Go with Toto IV or The Seventh One first!
After that, move on to Hydra and Isolation.
They don't really have a bad album in their discography, apart from Turn Back which is pretty mediocre..
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I wouldn't recommend Hydra for a start, it's not that easy to get into imo.
I would start with either their debut (Toto) or with The Seventh One.
I know Bill's taste though and he listens to a lot of Prog. It's not that deep of a challenge.
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It's okay, I just thought that Toto and The Seventh One (and IV maybe) capture the core sound of Toto better than Hydra. And apart from the covers album every Toto record is at least a good record.
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I wouldn't recommend Hydra for a start, it's not that easy to get into imo.
I would start with either their debut (Toto) or with The Seventh One.
I know Bill's taste though and he listens to a lot of Prog. It's not that deep of a challenge.
Hydra is stellar, White Sister may be my favorite song by anyone ever.
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It's okay, I just thought that Toto and The Seventh One (and IV maybe) capture the core sound of Toto better than Hydra. And apart from the covers album every Toto record is at least a good record.
The Seventh One is my second favorite Toto album. I got to see them on that tour as well.
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Just start with the first S/T album and go from there in chronological order.
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Just stumbled across this
Africa Metal Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9FyLsfDzw) :metal :metal :metal :metal
I love this, great facial expressions and the girl is cute :biggrin:
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Wow, that guy was so annoying. I went to a concert and stood next to a guy who acted like that trying to impress chicks. I wanted to deck him.
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I've been unlucky and haven't seen Toto this last tour or the one before that - the one and only time I've seen them was in 2013 and that was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Next to Stratovarius Toto is my favorite band ever. I can't freaking wait for the next album. :biggrin: :biggrin:
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We can't have enough Toto fans here, this thread is only active one or two times a year and that's a shame.
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We can't have enough Toto fans here, this thread is only active one or two times a year and that's a shame.
I've always hated that Toto doesn't get the respect they deserve. So many amazing songs across all their albums, I think the only album I simply dislike is Fahrenheit. There are a couple others I'm not too warm on but don't think they're bad, and Toto IV is the best album of all time...
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We can't have enough Toto fans here, this thread is only active one or two times a year and that's a shame.
I've always hated that Toto doesn't get the respect they deserve. So many amazing songs across all their albums, I think the only album I simply dislike is Fahrenheit. There are a couple others I'm not too warm on but don't think they're bad, and Toto IV is the best album of all time...
Love Fahrenheit. Maybe in my top 3 Toto albums.
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Hydra # 1 for me. # 2 is The Seventh One.
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Hydra # 1 for me. # 2 is The Seventh One.
Hmmm. Mine might look like this:
1: Seventh One
3-way tie: Toto / IV / Fahrenheit
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I've never heard a single Toto album in my life. ;D
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I've never heard a single Toto album in my life. ;D
I knew you were off in the head Tim. :lol
Hydra # 1 for me. # 2 is The Seventh One.
Hmmm. Mine might look like this:
1: Seventh One
3-way tie: Toto / IV / Fahrenheit
The Seventh One is an album I never can get sick of.
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My ranking changes all the time but at this moment, right now, it looks like this. The top 3 are all consistently at the top though I think.
Awesome:
1. Toto IV
2. Mindfields
3. Hydra
4. XIV
5. Toto
Really good:
6. Tambu
7. The Seventh One
8. Kingdom of Desire
9. Falling In Between
Not so keen on:
10. Isolation
11. Turn Back
12. Fahrenheit
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Ranking the records is incredibly hard, at the momemt mine would probably look like this (although this could change any day):
1a Kingdom Of Desire
1b The Seventh One
3 Toto
4 Falling In Between
5 Isolation
6 Mindfields
7 Toto IV
8 Toto XIV
9 Hydra
10 Turn Back
11 Fahrenheit
12 Tambu
13 Through The Looking Glass
Shows the strength of their discography that a killer album like Toto IV is only middle tier for me.
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I've never heard a single Toto album in my life. ;D
It's okay, I forgive your transgressions. ;)
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Ranking the records is incredibly hard, at the momemt mine would probably look like this (although this could change any day):
1a Kingdom Of Desire
1b The Seventh One
3 Toto
4 Falling In Between
5 Isolation
6 Mindfields
7 Toto IV
8 Toto XIV
9 Hydra
10 Turn Back
11 Fahrenheit
12 Tambu
13 Through The Looking Glass
Shows the strength of their discography that a killer album like Toto IV is only middle tier for me.
I love talking about this band with people because look at how different this list is from mine! So many different opinions on all their albums. Fascinating stuff. Since you ranked Through The Looking Glass, where would you put XX, the album with all the unreleased material and B-sides etc.? I like a lot of the songs on it but I'd probably put it right under Falling In Between in my list.
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XX is a cool record but because of it's nature of leftovers and live recordings it doesn't flow like a "proper" record. Some cool songs on there, some not that good but interesting.
If I would rank it, it would be more on the bottom half of the list, somewhere around Tambu. But it's still a worthwhile listen.
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Bump. So, yesterday I found an original pressing of Isolation on CD at my preferred local record store. Snatched it up, because Toto. So, I'm going through the album again and I decide to watch the Stranger In Town music video. At 1:15 in the music video, the guy they show is actually Brad Dourif, who plays Grima Wormtongue in the Lord of the Rings films. Thanks, YouTube comments! :lol
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Haven't seen it, but I appreciate Brad Dourif. Dark weirdass dude excels at playing dark weirdass characters. :tup
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TOTO “40 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN”
TO BE RELEASED ON FEBRUARY 9TH
Remastered Greatest Hits Collection Featuring Three Brand New Tracks To Be Released On Legacy Recordings
40 Trips Around The Sun World Tour Begins In Europe On February 11, 2018
Los Angeles, CA --- TOTO is pleased to announce a February 9th worldwide release date on Legacy Recordings (a division of Sony Music) for their brand new Greatest Hits package titled 40 Trips Around The Sun. The 17 track album features three previously unreleased recordings: “Spanish Sea” “Alone” and “Struck By Lightning” alongside newly remastered classic tracks worked on by Elliot Scheiner & Gavin Lurssen and his team. The core Toto members, Steve Lukather, David Paich, Steve Porcaro, Joseph Williams re-entered the studio earlier this year to work on this release.
While going through the Sony vaults, the band uncovered several unfinished tracks that featured both Jeff and Mike Porcaro, one of which is now “Spanish Sea.” “This track is originally from the Isolation sessions,” Steve Lukather commented. “It’s one that didn't make it and we had to re-write it including creating a new chorus. Thanks to modern tech we were able to play once again with not only our 20 something selves but with our dear brothers Jeff and Mike Porcaro reminding us just how deep their groove was. Bittersweet... Many stories, laughs and a few tears on this one. It’s classic Toto with an excellent solo and I kept my old 1985 melody solo Dave wanted me to do... Old meets new but since legendary pal Al Schmitt cut the tracks and Bob Clearmountain mixed...it sounds like it was done 2 weeks ago not 30 + years ago!”
All fans who pre-order the album beginning today will receive “Alone” as an instant grat track. “Alone is a brand new song,” Lukather remarked. “This one was written with just the four of us really writing together and no one else in the room with us. We wanted to start with an ‘up’ song in terms of groove for the album. The lyric is darker but we are older guys now ands have lived life. The good, bad and ugly... we have lived it all and in the end we are all alone anyway. Proud of this piece and it just sort of organically happened.” Fans can pre-order the album here: https://lnk.to/toto_GH
Listen to "Alone" here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlFU8fPGezk
The third new track on 40 Trips Around The Sun: “Struck By Lightning” began with David Paich. “I had the opening riff in my head for months,” Paich said. “Joe and the guys helped flesh this one out. I love the heavy arrangement and Luke’s solo on it is an all time great!”
Beginning on February 11th in Helsinki, the band will begin the first leg of their worldwide 40 Trips Around The Sun tour in support of their 40th anniversary. 36 shows in Europe have been announced to date. The tour will be the band’s most extensive run in years and is expected to hit the U.S. later in 2018. More shows will be announced shortly.
TOTO – 40 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN TRACK LISTING
Alone
Spanish Sea
I'll Supply The Love
I'll Be Over You
Stranger In Town
99
Struck By Lightning
Pamela
Afraid Of Love
I Won't Hold You Back
Jake To The Bone
Stop Loving You
Lea
Hold The Line
George Porgy
Rosanna
Africa
Greatest hits....again. 3 new songs is nice but feels a bit cheap to not do a whole new album. Oh well, looking forward to the tour anyway.
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New song "Alone" is up on Spotify!
Love it! :metal Shame that we are not getting a whole album, but i'm excited to see them in February regardless!
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I don't feel like skimming through every compilation released thus far but it's a little disappointing to get *another* greatest hits compilation with pretty much the same old same old. That said, new Toto is good Toto and I'll buy it, but to be honest I was expecting a whole new album.
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Yeah, probably the 87th greatest Hits package, I WAS SO WAITING FOR THIS
New songs are nice, a tour is nice, hopefully I get to see them again this time, but I was hoping for a brand new album. But if they are touring through 2018 a new album isn't coming round soon. Not sure if I want to buy this.
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Kind of a disappointing news release.
I know Steve talked last year about new Legacy editions on which the studio albums were going to be remixed/remastered. He also talked about new material being released but 3 new songs and a compilation is not necessarily good. I guess something is better than nothing.
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My guess would be that maybe they thought a whole new album the same year they're celebrating 40yr anniversary would be unnecessary since a tour like that is more a celebration of the older material and that's what people wanna hear. Then again why release 3 new songs instead of saving them for a proper album 2019 or something insetad?
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I can't imagine that this will be a big seller. The casual fan has probably already bought one of the other collections out there, so no need to get this one.
Some hardcore fans will buy it because of the new songs or out of completists reasons, but I think a lot will give it a pass. I would like to hear the new songs, and probably they will be up on spotify, but I'm not giving away money for a full priced cd for songs that I already have, sometimes on multiple records.
Couldn't they just tour for the 40th anniversary and then release a new album with all new songs?
Or maybe relase the remastered back catalogue with bonus tracks? That would be more interesting than a greatest hits compilation, but still I wouldn't probably buy it.
Or release some live material from the earlier years, surely there must be something in the vaults?
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Apparently Simon Phillips lost his home and studio in the fire in California. Stuff can be replaced but I can only imagine the memorabilia that's lost for good, I also saw his home studio in some interview and it was a passion/life project for him so that's gotta be hard to deal with. :sadpanda:
https://www.gofundme.com/jwequ-life-rebuilding-fund
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Oh no... :sad: Poor Simon. At least he's okay. That's a heavy loss though...
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I feel like we need an in-depth Toto documentary. Watching Luke on the Hired Gun doco on Netflix made me realise that that guy alone must have a shit-ton of awesome stories about working on all these amazing records - and writing hits for other people.
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There's a Steve Lukather biography coming out sometime next year, I hope it's a good one because Luke has a million stories to tell about his work in Toto and his studio work.
https://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2017/08/lukathers-memoir-out-early-2018.aspx (https://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2017/08/lukathers-memoir-out-early-2018.aspx)
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Oh wow, that's an insta buy! :tup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EV_5U6GGo
Here's a medley of different Toto songs which I think is beyond amazing.
Martin Miller, the guitarist, used to be my teacher when I studies music. JP even mentioned him once in an interview as one of the younger guitarists he likes.
Felix Lehrmann, the drummer, played on the last few records involving Roine Stolt (Anderson/Stolt, the last two Flower Kings albums).
You guys should give it a listen. They also did a Pink Floyd medley which is equally awesome.
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I feel like we need an in-depth Toto documentary. Watching Luke on the Hired Gun doco on Netflix made me realise that that guy alone must have a shit-ton of awesome stories about working on all these amazing records - and writing hits for other people.
There's a Steve Lukather biography coming out sometime next year, I hope it's a good one because Luke has a million stories to tell about his work in Toto and his studio work.
https://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2017/08/lukathers-memoir-out-early-2018.aspx (https://www.stevelukather.com/news-articles/2017/08/lukathers-memoir-out-early-2018.aspx)
oh good
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EV_5U6GGo
Here's a medley of different Toto songs which I think is beyond amazing.
Martin Miller, the guitarist, used to be my teacher when I studies music. JP even mentioned him once in an interview as one of the younger guitarists he likes.
Felix Lehrmann, the drummer, played on the last few records involving Roine Stolt (Anderson/Stolt, the last two Flower Kings albums).
You guys should give it a listen. They also did a Pink Floyd medley which is equally awesome.
That was great, thx for sharing! :tup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EV_5U6GGo
Here's a medley of different Toto songs which I think is beyond amazing.
Martin Miller, the guitarist, used to be my teacher when I studies music. JP even mentioned him once in an interview as one of the younger guitarists he likes.
Felix Lehrmann, the drummer, played on the last few records involving Roine Stolt (Anderson/Stolt, the last two Flower Kings albums).
You guys should give it a listen. They also did a Pink Floyd medley which is equally awesome.
This is the best Toto performance I've ever seen by people not in Toto. Thanks for sharing. Wow!
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So yeah, yesterday I was in Helsinki and experienced the first show of their "40 Trips Around the Sun" tour!
Show was amazing! Everyone was at their best! If you are even slightly a Toto fan, you need to catch them on this tour!
Setlist was just mind-blowing! They played the new songs from "40 trips". There were the usual suspects, of course. But man, there were so many surprises in the setlist! Not going to spoil the whole thing, but they played among other things: The Dune (Desert theme) and "No Love" from Mindfields (Live debut!).
Can't say enough nice things about the show! Go buy your tickets now, if you haven't already.
Let's hope this is not their last big tour..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EV_5U6GGo
Here's a medley of different Toto songs which I think is beyond amazing.
Martin Miller, the guitarist, used to be my teacher when I studies music. JP even mentioned him once in an interview as one of the younger guitarists he likes.
Felix Lehrmann, the drummer, played on the last few records involving Roine Stolt (Anderson/Stolt, the last two Flower Kings albums).
You guys should give it a listen. They also did a Pink Floyd medley which is equally awesome.
Wow, that great!
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So yeah, yesterday I was in Helsinki and experienced the first show of their "40 Trips Around the Sun" tour!
Show was amazing! Everyone was at their best! If you are even slightly a Toto fan, you need to catch them on this tour!
Setlist was just mind-blowing! They played the new songs from "40 trips". There were the usual suspects, of course. But man, there were so many surprises in the setlist! Not going to spoil the whole thing, but they played among other things: The Dune (Desert theme) and "No Love" from Mindfields (Live debut!).
Can't say enough nice things about the show! Go buy your tickets now, if you haven't already.
Let's hope this is not their last big tour..
Oh man, that sounds awesome! Was actually planning on seeing them in Denmark on Saturday but i'm moving to a new apartment that weekend so i'm a bit stuck with that. I saw them last summer so it's not the end of the world for me.
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Dude! No Love is one of my favorites from the Mindfields album, I've always wondered why they've never played that one. Just seemed to get lost among all their other great songs, but I love that tune. I gotta catch this tour!
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Nice breakdown of Rosanna
https://youtu.be/QLoh8zHjGUI
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I heard one of the new Toto songs on the radio very early this morning, Spanish River (?) I think. Anyway, the drums and some of the elements are an obvious attempt to make another Africa. But there's still enough in the song to distinguish it and make me enjoy it. Also, that keyboard solo would not be out of place on a borderline-prog track.
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If I have understood correctly, Spanish Sea was made out of a rough demo from the 80's. Alone on the other hand is a brand new song!
I do like the "new" songs from "40 Trips". Especially after hearing them live..
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Spanish Sea is an old demo that's been reworked. They have used some of the old tracks, so you can hear Jeff and Mike Porcaro on it. Maybe the reminiscence of Africa kept them from releasing it back then.
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I knew it was a Spanish body of water. Thanks for correcting.
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Ha ha, didn't even see that :lol
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500 bucks for that new boxset. Would of loved for a CD only edition of that box.
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As I understand it, that's a special edition. The discs will be available either separately or in a normal box set sometime later for a more reasonable price.
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So apparently Vinnie Colauita is drumming on the new songs, had no idea about that. Wonder why they didn't use Shannon?
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That's the first time I hear that too. Vinnie's good but Shannon isn't that bad either. There's probably a reason.
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I mean Vinnie is Vinnie, if they wan't someone to nail anything they can throw at him in 5mins Vinnie is the guy, i'm guessing time was a factor either Shannon was booked or they wanted to move along quickly in the studio. Still Shannon is such a perfect drummer for Toto and imo probably the greatest since Jeff and I say that with greatest admiration for Simon. I just found Shannon to be the closest to Jeff which is a breath of fresh air which was very evident when I saw them last summer so I find it a bit sad they didn't use his talent.
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Yeah it's seems a bit weird, you have a good drummer and you use someone else.
Simon Philips was/is very very good, but he had a more distinctive own style as Forest Shannon has (imo). So the old Toto songs sounded good but different with Simon.
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Does anybody know anything about the “All In” boxset in cd edition? I know the vinyl set was released ata hefty price and Toto and the press releases said they were releasing it later in 2018 in cd format. Haven’t seen anything.
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Dune Desert Theme (https://youtu.be/6WMy-AStPhE)
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Vinnie isn't good.
He's amazing as a drummer.
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Vinnie? The upcoming DVD of that tour credits Shannon Forest as drummer.
Nonetheless Vinnie is amazing ;D
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Who I saw live.
Twice. I'm just glad they are out there touring. It almost looked like 4 or 5 years about they were calling it a day.
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Yeah, around the time of the Falling Into Infinity Steve Lukather wanted to call it quits, because he and Bobby Kimball were the only "real" members left and Steve got the feeling that it's not Toto anymore. I'm glad that they kinda reunited and keep on touring and putting out new music (even if sparsely).
I've yet to see them with Joe Williams, I've seen them maybe 15 times in the past, even two concerts with Jeff Porcaro before he passed away, but for the last couple of years their schedule didn't sadly match mine or they weren't playing near me.
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I think it's in the Falling in Between Live DVD when Bobby is being interviewed and he mentions that he really enjoys this line-up and hope they will continue with it.... literally the next year Toto retires and when they reform Joseph in and Bobby's out. I felt so sad for him. :lol
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Yes, but Bobby and Luke often weren't on the best of terms and Bobby did some things like billing his solo tour as Toto that soured the other guys. And then he really struggles hitting the notes these days, while Joseph Williams seems to have improved with age.
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Yeah, around the time of the Falling Into Infinity Steve Lukather wanted to call it quits, because he and Bobby Kimball were the only "real" members left and Steve got the feeling that it's not Toto anymore. I'm glad that they kinda reunited and keep on touring and putting out new music (even if sparsely).
I've yet to see them with Joe Williams, I've seen them maybe 15 times in the past, even two concerts with Jeff Porcaro before he passed away, but for the last couple of years their schedule didn't sadly match mine or they weren't playing near me.
I saw them in 1987 on The Seventh One tour (my favorite album from them) and had tickets in 2009 but they canceled the show. I've seem them twice with Joseph again and they still kill it live.
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I've seen them twice now since Joseph Williams and Steve Porcaro rejoined the band!
They aren't getting any younger, but they are in top form at the moment. They were even better on this tour compared to the XIV tour. Let's hope they have one more studio album in them!
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Yes, but Bobby and Luke often weren't on the best of terms and Bobby did some things like billing his solo tour as Toto that soured the other guys. And then he really struggles hitting the notes these days, while Joseph Williams seems to have improved with age.
Yea sure but there's no "but", i'm sure they had reasons to pick Joseph instead, I sure as hell wouldn't want to trade Joseph for Bobby after the times i've seen them live recently. Eitherway, the way he spoke so fondly about the line-up and the future of the band, that's what made me feel sad about him.
His struggle with high notes has been evident for years, way before his split.
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Don't disagree with that, it's kinda sad, especially when you see how he struggles to get something going on his own. But from various interviews through the years, I got the feeling that Bobby don't always sees the signs, he sometimes seems a little bit detached from reality.
There were several instances where Bobby was making future plans with Toto and the other guys said no, that's not what was talked about and what we planned to do, didn't you listen?
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SIMON PHILLIPS / PROTOCOL 4 - STUDIO LIVE SESSION - NIMBUS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av9ckvRxnNs)
Amazing players and I always loved the sound of Simons kit. No dampening or triggers only great tuned drums that sound huge.
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TOTO Announce Fall North American Tour Dates
Los Angeles, CA --- It’s without question, that TOTO have currently been in the middle of a major resurgence around the world over the past several years. Their Greatest Hits package titled 40 Trips Around The Sun - Legacy Recordings (a division of Sony Music) debuted at the top of the charts in eight different countries upon its release in early 2018 and kicked off what’s been the longest tour for years for the band.
Their European tour last year saw them performing to packed houses every night including sold out stops at the Ziggo Dome (17,000 seats) in Amsterdam and Royal Albert Hall in London. Another round of European shows are already scheduled for this summer.
TOTO will now conclude the almost two year long 40 Trips Around The Sun Tour with twenty final shows in North America. The tour will kick off in Los Angeles on September 20th at The Wiltern. Tickets for all shows go on sale this Friday 10AM local time. American Express Card® Members can purchase tickets in select markets before the general public beginning this Wednesday, May 1 at 10AM local time through Thursday, May 2 at 10PM local time. For the most update information visit: http://totoofficial.com/events/
A special fan pre-sale will begin tomorrow (Tuesday) at 10AM local with the code: FORTY.
Their definitive CD box set: All In via Legacy Recordings will be released worldwide on May 24th.
40 TRIPS AROUND THE SUN NORTH AMERICAN TOUR
Fri-Sep-20 - Los Angeles, CA - The Wiltern
Sep 20-23 - Las Vegas, NV - Life Is Beautiful Festival*
Sat-Sep-21 - Phoenix, AZ - Celebrity Theatre**
Tue-Sep-24 - Salt Lake City, UT - Eccles Theatre
Wed-Sep-25 - Denver, CO - Paramount Theatre
Fri-Sep-27 - Kansas City, MO - Uptown Theater
Sat-Sep-28- Des Moines, IA - Hoyt Sherman Place
Sun-Sep-29 - Madison, WI - Orpheum Theater
Tue-Oct-01 - Minneapolis, MN - State Theatre
Wed-Oct-02 - Peoria, IL - Peoria Civic Center Theatre
Fri-Oct-04 - Chicago, IL - The Chicago Theatre
Sat-Oct-05 - Mt. Pleasant, MI - Soaring Eagle Casino
Tue-Oct-08- Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium
Wed-Oct-09 - Birmingham, AL - Alabama Theatre
Thu-Oct-10- Atlanta, GA - Atlanta Symphony Hall
Sun-Oct-13 - Northfield, OH -MGM Northfield Park
Tue-Oct-15 - Port Chester, NY - Capitol Theatre
Wed-Oct-16 - Englewood, NJ Bergen PAC
Fri-Oct-18 - Mashantucket, CT - Foxwoods Casino
Sat-Oct-19 - Red Bank, NJ - Count Basie Theatre
*On sale now.
**On sale Monday, May 6 at 10 AM local time.
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Everyone should see Toto at least once.
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Everyone should see Toto at least once.
Damn right!
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Everyone should see Toto at least once.
Damn right!
Yes (says a lifelong fan, seen them three times and it was great every time.) I'm one of these people who likes every record (apart from Toto XIV), which might not be normal.
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I've seen them about 15 times and I like every record. Sure, some are better than others, but even the covers album Through The Looking Glass is at least solid. Favorites are probably Kingdom Of Desire and The Seventh One.
And what's wrong with Toto XIV?
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I don't recall much discussion about Toto XIV around these parts, so I'd be down for hearing the beef, too. There are a few songs I almost never return to, like Great Expectations, but Orphan, Holy War, etc. are fantastic. All The Tears That Shine and The Little Things are two of my favorites, as well, but I could see those being a big sticking point for some fans.
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The run from Running Out Of Time to Unknown Soldier is as good as it gets. The record loses a little bit of steam in the second half (imo). Little Things and All The Tears are good but kinda unspectacular, Fortune I'm not too fond of. Chinatown is a great reminiscence of Toto, Hydra and Toto IV, it could have come right out of those recording sessions. And Great Expectations has grown a lot for me, especially the proggy instrumental section.
All in all I find Toto XIV a worthy addition to their discography and far from a tired late work, like some other bands put out late in their career (Tesla, I'm looking in your direction).
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I don't have any issues with the songwriting, my only issue is the horrible, horrible drumming by Carlock. He completely ruined the record. Shannon Forrest would have done it much more fittingly.
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Okay, he's no Jeff Porcaro or Simon Phillips but I don't mind his playing. But to each his own.
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Sure. I'm looking forward to recieving the new live album too, should be a fun listen. Not sure if I'll buy the CD or the 24 bit download version though.
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You mean 40 tours around the sun?
I've got the CD/Blue-Ray bundle. Haven't watched the blue-ray yet, only listened to the audio.
The playing is top notch and Joseph Williams sounds great, but sometimes in the old Kimball songs he isn't powerful enough. But there are a lot of deep cuts that haven't been played for a long time or never played at all. Nice little acoustic set in the middle, but I wish they had played whole songs instead of only parts. The audio quality is good but they had better sounding live releases in the past. But all in all it's a really good release.
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Yeah that one.
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I don't have any issues with the songwriting, my only issue is the horrible, horrible drumming by Carlock. He completely ruined the record. Shannon Forrest would have done it much more fittingly.
I'm with you on Shannon but I would'nt call Keith drumming horrible. He's a very soulfull drummer with a unique sound but a weird pick for Toto though. I'm also surprised they picked Vinnie Colaiuta for the recent new songs when Shannon would've been perfectly fine. My guess would be scheduling issues but who knows.
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I don't have any issues with the songwriting, my only issue is the horrible, horrible drumming by Carlock. He completely ruined the record. Shannon Forrest would have done it much more fittingly.
I'm with you on Shannon but I would'nt call Keith drumming horrible. He's a very soulfull drummer with a unique sound but a weird pick for Toto though. I'm also surprised they picked Vinnie Colaiuta for the recent new songs when Shannon would've been perfectly fine. My guess would be scheduling issues but who knows.
he is a good jazz drummer (far from being my favourite but anyway ,although his performance on the two Steely Dan records also was detrimental to their music IMHO), I will readily admit that. I've never heard him play sensibly on pop records (in a broad sense, meaning Toto, Sting, John Mayer and whatever else he has done in that genre of music) Concerning Vinnie over Shannon: I'm a Vinnie fan and I liked his performance on the newer Toto pieces, I would have liked Shannon too. I think it may have been a scheduling issue too.
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I can't say the drumming on Toto XIV bothers me at all, but that's a shame it ruins the record for you, man. I love that album. It's awesome how every record they've put out sounds different. He's no Simon Philips but I like the drumming on Burn and Orphan a lot.
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Yes, the parts on Burn are ones I have almost no issue with, same as with Orphan. I gave him every chance I could muster, really. (and I've seen him live with Rudder, which was a jazz fusion type band and I liked him there for the most part) I wanted to like TXIV. I didn't. Simon and Jeff are among my heroes btw (and MM and Steve Smith and Phil Collins as well, have to give a nod to the one who started it all for me too)
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What are your favorite Toto albums, Max, Kwyjibo, anyone else? Just curious; been a while since we've had a good Toto discussion round here. Toto IV of course is my favorite, but Mindfields is a very close second.
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What are your favorite Toto albums, Max, Kwyjibo, anyone else? Just curious; been a while since we've had a good Toto discussion round here. Toto IV of course is my favorite, but Mindfields is a very close second.
well, I literally like all of them (apart from Toto XIV) but my "eternal" favourites would be Toto I, Hydra, Fahrenheit, The Seventh One and Mindfields. I also quite like the Dune soundtrack really (yes, call me strange). Toto XX is cool too (great collection of "deep cuts" as it were).
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Like I mentioned my favorites are Kingdom Of Desire and The Seventh One, but I really like all of them.
I thought about ranking the albums but couldn't do it, but I can put them in some broad categories
The Best/Top Notch/Really Great Records
Toto
Isolation
The Seventh One
Kingdom Of Desire
Mindfields
Falling In Between
The Almost Best/Almost Top Notch/Still Really Great Records
Hydra
Turn Back
Toto IV
Fahrenheit
Tambu
Toto IXV
The Good Ones
Dune
Through The Looking Glass
Toto XX
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Kingdom is the "odd one of the bunch" I guess. (so non-Toto in some ways, very driven by that raw, bluesy sound, somehow it's cool concerning the songwriting IMHO, the playing was cool as ever) Turn Back probably was another unusual one at the time too. (very raw sounding as well comparatively)
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The last time I heard anything on Turn Back was years and years ago. I think that alone makes it my least favorite Toto album. Not sure if I'd call it bad, it just doesn't do anything for me. Even Fahrenheit, for its hot production and super 80s vibe, has at least a few songs I can dig.
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Turn Back has Gift With A Golden Gun and English Eyes, which I really like and the title track is a cool quirky tune.
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Turn Back has Gift With A Golden Gun and English Eyes, which I really like and the title track is a cool quirky tune.
both of which I heard them play live. And A Million Miles Away and Goodbye Eleonore are great too (which I heard them play live too)
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*Drama alert*
I don't like gossip and stuff like that but Toto put up this comment on FB:
FYI:
Bobby Kimball has not had any association with our band in 12 years.
Just want to set the record straight!
and in the comments someone from the band said this:
"Pretty much. I flew in ALL his BG vocals on 2 track cause if he shows up he was in poor shape and his vocals were sometimes put together word by word! He has NEVER EVER sang a track top to bottom EVER on ANY record we've ever done ! Period and .. yeah we rounded up the number of years he has been gone! I wish he had never been in this band due to his antics cocaine and now touching 4 year old girls butt... he is a shit-stain on OUR legacy!
What is going on?
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What is going on?
Probably this:
Toto's former frontman Bobby Kimball had an intense showdown with cops at the airport after allegedly touching a child's butt with his cane while in line at a TSA checkpoint.
https://www.tmz.com/2019/07/04/toto-singer-bobby-kimball-cop-police-fight-threat/?fbclid=IwAR09EjmDfLuMjtODayaI2U-LEFEFTfsW4rK9n_GPfTyvETHv2VoPcZCdAsI (https://www.tmz.com/2019/07/04/toto-singer-bobby-kimball-cop-police-fight-threat/?fbclid=IwAR09EjmDfLuMjtODayaI2U-LEFEFTfsW4rK9n_GPfTyvETHv2VoPcZCdAsI)
There are rumours around that he's suffering from dementia, maybe he's literally losing his mind. Sad to see him go down like that.
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Yea I saw that, not sure how I feel about an article from tmz but yea, that's sounds sad.
Seems like the post has been redacted from fb.
Eitherway, that comment from what I assume is from Lukather is ruff to say the least especially the singing part.
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Not sure if the tmz article tells it true, but it was the only recent "news" I found regarding Bobby.
And yeah, those are some very strong words. It seems that especially Luke is really pissed for some years now. Now I don't know what's going on behind the scenes but I find this very harsh, and to me it seems that Bobby needs help and not to be shit upon by former band members.
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Yea they should've kept comments like that private, stuff like that dosen't help anyone.
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Yeah, but Luke will be the first to tell you he tells it like it is, and honestly I can understand his frustration. Bobby's always had a troublesome streak. It's a shame.
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Yeah, but Luke will be the first to tell you he tells it like it is, and honestly I can understand his frustration. Bobby's always had a troublesome streak. It's a shame.
True, that's how I always pictured Luke. Nothing new that Bobby struggled in Toto but I honestly didn't know about the struggle he had with Bobbys singing in the studio, thought it was more a live thing.
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Seriously, that's some low-level shit to be flinging publicly.
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I don't believe that Bobby was that bad right from the start. They wouldn't have recorded 4 records in a row with him and they wouldn't have reunited with him many years later if he couldn't sing a note straight.
And yeah, Luke tells it like it is, but whenever he does that it's extremely insulting and negative, maybe he should tone that down a bit. And he's certainly no saint either.
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^^ He's totally aware of that and I think that plays into why he's so blunt about stuff like this. Basically he just owns up to the shit he used to do so he has no problem talking about it. It is a pretty low dig at Bobby to lay in about his performance in the studio though. I think he also went public with comments about Bobby's voice being overdubbed on the Falling In Between tour DVD?
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Steve addresses the Bobby situation in the book, about his vocals. He highly commends the studio engineer (he is/was a Toto member, I can't recall his name at this moment). Steve says that the engineer was the most patient soul when Toto was in the studio when recording vocals. So the issues apparently have been there for a long time (Bobby's vocals).
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Steve addresses the Bobby situation in the book, about his vocals. He highly commends the studio engineer (he is/was a Toto member, I can't recall his name at this moment). Steve says that the engineer was the most patient soul when Toto was in the studio when recording vocals. So the issues apparently have been there for a long time (Bobby's vocals).
Yea I would guess Steves patient is pretty limited. :lol Could that be Mike Porcaro perhaps?
Have to read that book btw!
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Steve addresses the Bobby situation in the book, about his vocals. He highly commends the studio engineer (he is/was a Toto member, I can't recall his name at this moment). Steve says that the engineer was the most patient soul when Toto was in the studio when recording vocals. So the issues apparently have been there for a long time (Bobby's vocals).
Yea I would guess Steves patient is pretty limited. :lol Could that be Mike Porcaro perhaps?
Have to read that book btw!
I have the book and I can tell you it's very well worth reading IMHO (more than once too). A word of warning though: Luke is brutally honest. (like myself) That may not be anyone's cup of tea and may require some getting used to.
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Great book! I really learned a lot reading it.
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I hope it's ok to post this here. Although Simon Phillips' output is by no means reduced only to Toto, he was famously involved with them. I had the chance to interview him and talk about Toto, The Who, Judas Priest, Jack Bruce, Derek Sherinian and many of his other endeavours. Check it out!!!!
https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-simon-phillips/
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Katt would be so proud, I listened to Toto all day. Made a youtube playlist of their set and just kept listening. Looking forward to seeing them in 9 days for the first time. I hardly know anything of them besides a few of the hits so this is a nice musical discovery of something different.
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Katt would be so proud, I listened to Toto all day. Made a youtube playlist of their set and just kept listening. Looking forward to seeing them in 9 days for the first time. I hardly know anything of them besides a few of the hits so this is a nice musical discovery of something different.
HELL YEAH BROTHER :metal
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Get out! That's awesome. I love seeing them live!
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I listened to Toto all day.
There are better ways to spent your days, but not many. :metal :metal :metal :D
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Katt would be so proud, I listened to Toto all day. Made a youtube playlist of their set and just kept listening. Looking forward to seeing them in 9 days for the first time. I hardly know anything of them besides a few of the hits so this is a nice musical discovery of something different.
They usually sound great live so I think you will dig it. I feel Joseph brought some new life into the band when he came back.
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Katt would be so proud, I listened to Toto all day. Made a youtube playlist of their set and just kept listening. Looking forward to seeing them in 9 days for the first time. I hardly know anything of them besides a few of the hits so this is a nice musical discovery of something different.
have fun exploring, you won't regret it
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/toto-to-call-it-quits-after-finishing-40th-anniversary-tour-in-philadelphia/
Sad if they go out this way...there are also involved in a lawsuit with Jeff Porcaro's wife about royalties.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/steve_lukather_says_lawsuit_from_jeff_porcaros_widow_has_not_been_kind_to_toto.html
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That headline is misleading.
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damn it I was really hoping they would make one more record
RIP Toto, greatest band in the world
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Here's a better headline
https://ultimateclassicrock.com/steve-lukather-toto-hiatus/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=newsletter_4572276
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Exactly. May be retirement. The door is still open.
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Exactly. May be retirement. The door is still open.
For me the sad part is the lawsuit. It may be a real downer to the band and cost them financially. That may just lead for Toto to retire. Pretty sure the royalties are in the possibly millions, and emotionally draining for both parties. And Luke also said they lost the lawsuit so...there’s that. Also there has been some health issues with some of the band members.
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Unfortunately, family members do this a lot. I hope it all works out.
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As mentioned in the article they already called it quits before in 2008 and yet they returned to touring and even recorded a new record.
I won't believe that they never do anything under the name Toto again but not, as Steve said, in the foreseeable future. Maybe some one off gigs, or some really small tours like they did after their first hiatus. And I believe Luke will definitely not quit playing, he will be active, be it with a new solo record or as part of some other artist's band or some project.
That said, I too was hoping for at least another record after their current tour.
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As mentioned in the article they already called it quits before in 2008 and yet they returned to touring and even recorded a new record.
I was just about to say that, here's Lukes quote from 2008: When Dave [Paich] retired that was REAL hard for me 'cause we started the band together. Hell, it's 35 years if you count High School where the core all met. When Mike [Porcaro] fell ill and had to leave that was it for me. If there isn't Paich or at least one Porcaro how can we even call it Toto? ... Honestly, I have just had enough. This is NOT a break. It is over. I really can't go out and play Hold The Line with a straight face anymore.
2 years later a World Tour was announced :lol So yea i'm not sure I trust Luke that much, he's a bit impulsive when it comes to decisions but who knows at this point. I hope they get together at some point, since I didn't see them on their latest trek. :-\
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I'm glad I have a ticket for Saturday's show, my first and probably last time seeing them. Maybe they do get back together but I'm definitely treating this like a one off and only experience.
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I think the health issues for some of the Toto members and the lawsuit with Porcaro's estate is what drove him to say this publicly. Do not know the details of the lawsuit but if the last 2 years of touring, and if a lot of that revenue went to cover the lawsuit cost's and settlement, then they kind of toured for nothing and it could have been financially demoralizing. Luke did say they lost the lawsuit so they have to pay up at some point.
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Luke's solo stuff is awesome so I can't wait to hear his next record
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Shame..............I really wanted to see them with Jo Williams but couldn't do it the last time they toured out here.
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Luke's solo stuff is awesome so I can't wait to hear his next record
If Toto's on hiatus it's about time for some solo stuff. His last record was really great.
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Goodbye Girl is such an awesome song. The intro sounds like something Leprous was inspired from.
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Goodbye Girl is such an awesome song. The intro sounds like something Leprous was inspired from.
reverse the title and you've got it :D (fixed it for you), and I agree that that song is ahead of its time (it came out in 1978 remember)
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I was shocked to see 1978 in the youtube description :lol and yea got the title backwards, its new to me! But that song sticks out on every listen of my playlist I created
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That's a great song. One of the best from the early years.
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Their debut is full of great songs.
Though they are pretty diverse music wise, I always think of Toto as a rock band. That's where they really shine imo, Girl Goodbye being a prime example. And that's probably why I like Kingdom Of Desire so much, that's a full out rock record, firing on all cylinders. Although it's very different from the rest of their work.
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Their debut is full of great songs.
Though they are pretty diverse music wise, I always think of Toto as a rock band. That's where they really shine imo, Girl Goodbye being a prime example. And that's probably why I like Kingdom Of Desire so much, that's a full out rock record, firing on all cylinders. Although it's very different from the rest of their work.
it's different, but it works well and they accomplished what they wanted to do musically with it.
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Goodbye Girl is such an awesome song. The intro sounds like something Leprous was inspired from.
reverse the title and you've got it :D (fixed it for you), and I agree that that song is ahead of its time (it came out in 1978 remember)
The opening medley they did on the Live in Amsterdam album is amazing. :tup
Also speaking of openers, the On The Run/CA/Goodbye Elenore medley they did in 2013/14 was also killer.
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Goodbye Girl is such an awesome song. The intro sounds like something Leprous was inspired from.
reverse the title and you've got it :D (fixed it for you), and I agree that that song is ahead of its time (it came out in 1978 remember)
The opening medley they did on the Live in Amsterdam album is amazing. :tup
Also speaking of openers, the On The Run/CA/Goodbye Elenore medley they did in 2013/14 was also killer.
very true, and I know, I attended the 2003 tour, it was a great one.
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Goodbye Girl is such an awesome song. The intro sounds like something Leprous was inspired from.
reverse the title and you've got it :D (fixed it for you), and I agree that that song is ahead of its time (it came out in 1978 remember)
The opening medley they did on the Live in Amsterdam album is amazing. :tup
Also speaking of openers, the On The Run/CA/Goodbye Elenore medley they did in 2013/14 was also killer.
very true, and I know, I attended the 2003 tour, it was a great one.
Awesome, I think that was the first tour I saw Toto actually. :tup
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The concert last saturday was a lot of fun. Really awesome performance from start to finish. They sounded pretty much perfect. I love live percussion and horns/wind instruments as well. I think it was sold out, but the row in front of me all the way in the back was empty (I saw the tickets for resale so I guess they went sold but unsold). But what I HATED was how everyone sat for almost all of the show. People stood for the second song, Hold the Line, and then sat right back down. Ugh. I get it, it's an older crowd and not a metal concert, but still, it's rock n roll. Some people did stand, you could see a few one offs and security was super lax (compared to seeing DT there earlier in the year) with letting people stand in the aisles so some people chose to find a spot to stand but that was very few people. With no one in front or behind me, I could choose but I ended up sitting with the rest. Oh well, the good thing was much more stable camera work :lol but anway, all the instrumental parts were really cool. Jake to the Bone seemed like their Dance of Eternity and it was really fun to watch. They went on at 8:15 and the acoustic part of the set started around 9, which happened to be when I needed a refill and to my surprise, the bar had shut down for the night. WTF? However, they said you could go out to a bar and come back in :lol WTF? I didn't get it, but a few other guys were just as confused so we all went to a bar just down the street real quick and chugged a drink before getting back in time for Girl Goodbye :metal No surprises or anything crazy (looks like they had a special guest for the last night in Philly) and they finished around 10:15 so a solid 2 hour set. Africa at the end was finally when people got back on their feet since Hold the Line and half the crowd left after before the encore ??? Anyway, I went from the last row on the balcony to the 8th row on the floor. Their loss was my gain.
Toto Live @ Count Basie Theatre NJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIc5P5h4ias)
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Glad you had fun, Marc. OMFG this set. Nice.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/toto/2019/grand-theater-at-foxwoods-mashantucket-ct-2b9df856.html
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Cool that you enjoyed the show, and yes, the musicianship is stunning. Not as "flashy" as DT or other acts but still very great.
That setlist is similar to their 40 Tours Around The Sun live release, lots of cool songs in there.
But what I HATED was how everyone sat for almost all of the show. People stood for the second song, Hold the Line, and then sat right back down. Ugh. I get it, it's an older crowd and not a metal concert, but still, it's rock n roll.
This always surprises me, that you americans have rock concerts in fully seated venues. In Germany (and Europe?) concerts this size normally have only standing room, or if they have seats they are few and in the back or on the sides. So in the Toto concerts I've seen, everyone was standing and everyone was rockin' out. :metal
I wonder what bands think when they had a concert run around Europe and the return to the states and suddenly everyone is sitting during their performance. :D
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Cool that you enjoyed the show, and yes, the musicianship is stunning. Not as "flashy" as DT or other acts but still very great.
That setlist is similar to their 40 Tours Around The Sun live release, lots of cool songs in there.
But what I HATED was how everyone sat for almost all of the show. People stood for the second song, Hold the Line, and then sat right back down. Ugh. I get it, it's an older crowd and not a metal concert, but still, it's rock n roll.
This always surprises me, that you americans have rock concerts in fully seated venues. In Germany (and Europe?) concerts this size normally have only standing room, or if they have seats they are few and in the back or on the sides. So in the Toto concerts I've seen, everyone was standing and everyone was rockin' out. :metal
I wonder what bands think when they had a concert run around Europe and the return to the states and suddenly everyone is sitting during their performance. :D
Well, to be fair, I have seen Steven Wilson sitting in Berlin, and I have first row tickets for Opeth next month in Nürnberg.
Not sure though if that is a decision made by the artist.
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All other Opeth concerts in Germany are standing room only, so it's probably more to do with the venue and not necessarily with the artist. Meistersingerhalle Nürnberg sounds more like a venue for classical concerts, maybe that's why its fully seated?
And obviously I can't speak for every location, but from my experience in the general area of Cologne, Bonn and Düsseldorf small and medium sized venues have only or mostly standing room and only a few have seats at all, and those, as I've mentioned have their seats on the side or in the back, never in front of the stage.
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The only other concert I've seen at the Meistersingerhalle was The Astonishing so that's not representative for a rock concert :lol But yeah, the venue does indeed give off a "sitting" vibe...
I just remembered, I saw Toto in Leipzig, Haus Auensee last year in February, standing, and then Nick Mason a few months later at the same venue, sitting...
Anyway, I am generally more of a standing guy, because I like to rock out. With exceptions, of course, like Katie Melua or King Crimson. But front row tickets for bigger acts are always so expensive. Elton John tickets for the first few rows are like 400€. If it's a standing concert you at least have the chance to get to the front if you get there a little earlier.
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Growing up in the 80's as an arena rock guy (EDIT: in America, in the northeast of the country, near New York), the VAST majority of shows I saw were fully seated. That doesn't mean that everyone sat; most of the "floor" sections had a full set of seats and everyone just stood (it's why I rarely bought floor seats unless I was in the first five rows; I couldn't see shit.)
I have no knowledge of this first hand, but if I was to guess, it was a "safety" issue because of events like The Who in Cincinnati (yes, I know the stampede was outside before the show, but it resulted in many localities banning general admission shows).
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I've seen maybe a hundred concerts in my life, starting in the late 80s and none of them were fully seated. Obviously in the big arenas you have seats but the floor was always standing room. And I think it depends on what you are used to, that's why I find it strange when I see videos of concerts in America and the crowd is sitting (or standing before their seat).
In my youth I couldn't believe that some people deliberately bought tickets for seats, because you can't rock out when you're sitting. Now, as I get older and my back is troubling me more and more I can see the appeal of a seated venue. ;) But I still find the notion of sitting at a rock concert strange. :D
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The way Stadler describes it is pretty much how it was for me, which was the Midwest in the 70's. Concerts may have had seated areas, but the floor was usually general admission, and the seats were often GA as well. That all went away after The Who concert. Reserved seating became the norm for concerts pretty much immediately. By the 80's, most of my concerts were behind me, and I have no idea how they are today.
As you say, it depends on what you're used to. A concert to me has always meant sitting and listening to the music, regardless of genre. But I think part of it is because here you have an assigned seat, even if it's a rock concert. Most people try to get there early, so you find your seat, and you're not going to just stand there for the next half hour, so you sit down. Eventually the show starts and people stand up and a lot of them keep standing up, but a lot of people sit back down just because that's what they were doing before.
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GA floor in arenas is definitely thing in the states, I guess at some point people said The Who thing was in the past. I mean, I can see putting seats on the floor for say Slipknot ending in a disaster of chairs everywhere. So I think it can go both ways from safety so it seems from my experiences, seats on the floor of an area vs. GA is an artist choice. For example, Iron Maiden at Barclays, Disturbed at MSG, Greta Van Fleet at Forest Hills Stadium all had big GA floors this year, meanwhile Kiss at MSG, Elton John at Staples Center, and Aerosmith at Park Theater all had seats on the floor. Now that I think about it, another reason could be $ as those front seats are so insanely expensive for those last three bands I listed.
Either way, when rock bands play these mid sized theaters, which DT typically plays, it always seems to become a "do you sit or stand?" question. Incubus at Warner THeater two weekends ago, the band hits the stage and I could see everyone in my section looking at each other as if do you sit or stand. I stood and then literally everyone else did. It was like they were waiting for someone to make a move first. It's so funny in some ways, but really kind of bums me out mostly that it is even a thing.
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Cram, I remember back in '84 seeing Dio and Twisted Sister in the old New Haven Coliseum. I had the first row of seats after the floor, so I could just about see over the heads of the floor people to the stage. At one point - I think it was during Twisted, though don't hold me to that - you could see the silhouette of chairs being tossed back and forth. Both singers - Snider and Dio - had to address the crowds at some point in their sets.
(Side bar, found out the next day that my dad's boss's daughter was in that mess and took a chair to the face. I guess you could say she "Took one to the FAAACCCCEEEE!")
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Yea, not surprising and I had assumed that had already happened without knowing any specific examples.
I saw Incubus at MSG back in like 2004 and bought floor seats for my gf at the time, but near the back and we couldnt see anything, so we stood on the chairs. Then everyone else did, which brought us back to the same place but now everyones much less safe standing on chairs. Security never complained, but that was a memorable experience in it's own way.
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Home of the Brave (Last song for now and maybe ever :'() (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDKHpshZsGI)
Here's a great interview with Steve Porcaro:
STEVE PORCARO - Studio Musician, Songwriter and founding member of Toto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0qg1RheGs)
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Bobby Kimball - Africa (https://youtu.be/HSvWSYgSM-g)
Has he become tone deaf?
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He's losing his voice for some time now and has given several questionable performances in the past years. And it is said that he suffers from severe dementia, parkinson or something. Maybe that affects his singing/hearing as well.
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Yea that could explain it. It's sad to see a known singer like him go "down" like that. I'm pretty sure he's surrounded with YES people.
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Yea that could explain it. It's sad to see a known singer like him go "down" like that. I'm pretty sure he's surrounded with YES people.
You mean he subbed for a singer in Yes? Can't remember he did, but what do I know.
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Yea that could explain it. It's sad to see a known singer like him go "down" like that. I'm pretty sure he's surrounded with YES people.
You mean he subbed for a singer in Yes? Can't remember he did, but what do I know.
Just to be clear because I see the joke :lol I was talking about for example managers that won't talk Bobby out of anything and basically says YES to anything he suggests or vice versa perhaps.
Btw Toto and YES actually did a tour together some time ago so it's not that far out. :laugh:
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And Jon Anderson sang on Stop Loving You.
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And Jon Anderson sang on Stop Loving You.
and all the Toto guys on T7th1 were on most of In The City Of Angels (a Jon Anderson solo album)
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TOTO • 40 Tours Around the Sun • Monitoring, FOH Sound & Lighting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcqwKFo1Kws)
Interesting stuff!
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RIP Joe Porcaro! Wonderful percussionist and human being.
Only Steve left now. :'(
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RIP Joe Porcaro! Wonderful percussionist and human being.
Only Steve left now. :'(
Wow. Sad news to wake up. RIP Joe.
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RIP Joe Porcaro! Wonderful percussionist and human being.
Only Steve left now. :'(
yes, I'm saddened. (yes, he got to be old and wise, but still...) And then to think that Ennio Morricone passed yesterday as well... (I tend to think 2020 is the new 2016)
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RIP Joe Porcaro! Wonderful percussionist and human being.
Only Steve left now. :'(
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Monday October 19th
9AM EST
Hmm, reunion? :lol
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Toto is BACK: https://totoofficial.com/2020/10/dogzofoz/
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That didn't last long :lol however, it's hard to get too excited about a tour they are talking about when it's really hard to even imagine concerts next summer.
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I'm dissappointed. That's all I'll say for now. (well maybe one more thing: Having Sput Searight on drums will most likely be as debaculous as having Keith Carlock.)
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I'm dissappointed. That's all I'll say for now. (well maybe one more thing: Having Sput Searight on drums will most likely be as debaculous as having Keith Carlock.)
Yea I mean both Keith and Sput are very creative drummers with a unique style. For me Shannon Forrest was just perfect for Toto.
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It's good that they continue but sad that Paich and Porcaro aren't part of it.
And I thought they called it quit because of a lawsuit they lost against Jeff Porcaro's wife. Is that somehow settled or do I remember it wrong?
And funny that Luke seems to be the driving force when he was the one who said that it wasn't Toto anymore after the Falling In Between tour with all those guest musicians (mainly Sklar and Philinganes) .
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Kind of weird to not have Paich or Steve Porcaro involved at all but they're still calling it Toto. Might be the name branding though... you'll draw more people if it's billed under Toto. The new faces won't be much of a bother on tour, I think, since Toto has a long history of playing with various people. Wonder if they'll do any studio work, though, and what it would be released as. Guess we're playing the waiting game.
Also I echo Kwyjibo's thoughts 100%
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Yeah what Kwyjibo said 100%
I'm completely honest here, I'm not all that excited about this with Paich and Steve Porcaro nowhere to be found.
To be fair, Paich leaving is not much of a surprise, considering they almost had to cancel the world tour because of his health issues a couple of years back! I was hoping that Steve would have continued though.. :sad:
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My Dad was a huge Toto fan. Growing up, I remember listening to the debut, IV, and The Seventh One A LOT. After he passed away in December, I got his vinyl and cd collections, and for some reason, I decided to put Farenheit and The Seventh One on, and I went specifically to the Farenheit title track and Stop Loving You, and I couldn't get them out of my head. Farenheit, the song, is like the quintessential 80's track, and Stop Loving You is such an overall great song. Anyway, I ended up really digging into their catalog, and bought up the few things my Dad didn't have. Needless to say, they've been in pretty regular rotation since June. I've mostly been drawn to the Simon Phillips years, because the 80's stuff is so ingrained in me. And man, Tambu, Mindfields, and especially Falling In Between are some great records. In fact, I would dare say that Falling In Between is their most complete album experience. Hot take, I know, but for me, it's the most consistent album in their catalog. Also, I discovered my dad had Simon Phillips' Protocol records (II-IV) and those are phenomenal records as well. I then went and got the Hiromi Trio Project albums and the new Derek Sherinian solo album to boot, simply because Simon played on them. Such a great drummer. And, it helps me stay connected to my Dad, because he was a huge fan of both Jeff Porcaro and Simon Phillips.
As for the announcement, I'm very interested to see what this new lineup is capable of. Spud Searight on drums is a beast. Has the groove of Porcaro and the chops of Phillips, so it will be interesting to see what music they decide to play.
Finally, I think I would rank the Toto albums as follows for me:
1. Falling In Between
2. The Seventh One
3. Toto IV
4. Mindfields
5. Kingdom of Desire
6. Toto
7. Tambu
8. Farenheit
9. Toto XIV
10. Hydra
11. Isolation
12. Turn Back
13. Toto XX: 1977-1997
14. Old is New
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Yes, Paich not touring is no big surprise but still it would be nice to have him around, and Steve Porcaro took a backseat for a long time before going on tour again, so he's probably not that keen on constant touring either.
I hope that somewhere along the line they go into the studio and hopefully Paich and Porcaro wiil be there with them.
@romdrums: Putting Falling In Between as favorite isn't that hot of a take imo. Although it isn't my favorite it's a damn fine record. And when it came out many thought it to be one of their best records.
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FIB is an awesome record, for the longest time it was my second favorite Toto album. It's varied and has lots of great performances from each singer, and Bottom Of Your Soul is probably a top 10 Toto song imo.
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FIB is an awesome record, for the longest time it was my second favorite Toto album. It's varied and has lots of great performances from each singer, and Bottom Of Your Soul is probably a top 10 Toto song imo.
Bottom of Your Soul is indeed a great tune.
One of the things I really appreciate about the albums from Kingdom to Falling is that it feels like they were able to really stretch out and develop musically. Jeff Porcaro, in particular, sounds like he's having a blast on KoD. I knew he had the chops, but to hear him stretch out like he does on Jake to the Bone, I didn't know he had THAT in him. He never struck me as the guy who played to play. And, bringing Simon into the band, in my opinion, really allowed them to stretch out even further. I think he was a brilliant choice to replace Jeff.
Also, a few of the songs from that era wouldn't have sounded out of place on a Hogarth-era Marillion record. To my ears, Lukather and Hogarth take a somewhat similar approach to creating vocal melodies, and I think the comparison is strongest on songs like Simple Life, After You've Gone, Better World, and Bottom of Your Soul.
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This announcement comes one year to the day that I saw them live locally, which seemed at the time to maybe be their second to last show...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBPQUQB_4co (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBPQUQB_4co) Toto performing Hold the Line from that evening one year ago, miss this so much
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Steve Lukather (a.k.a. "Luke") and Joseph Williams will release individual solo albums on February 26, 2021 via The Players Club / Mascot Label Group. Both artists have made significant contributions to the other's album. Earlier this year, the label presented "Run To Me" from Luke's forthcoming release "I Found The Sun Again".
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Kinda of a cool idea, will check this out.
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Duuuude! AWESOME!!
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Yeah, about time for a new Luke solo record :metal and I will surely check out Joseph's as well.
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Caved in and bought a ticket for the livestream. Begins in 40mins. Will be interesting to hear what the band will sound like.
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Caved in and bought a ticket for the livestream. Begins in 40mins. Will be interesting to hear what the band will sound like.
I'm very apprehensive. (won't watch it)
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Caved in and bought a ticket for the livestream. Begins in 40mins. Will be interesting to hear what the band will sound like.
I'm very apprehensive. (won't watch it)
Me too in a way but they hired some great musicians so it may not sound completly like Toto but I think it will sound great and atleast I get to see Sput do some shuffle. :laugh:
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Oh they just played You Are The Flower, don't think they ever played that live. :tup
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Oh they just played You Are The Flower, don't think they ever played that live. :tup
they did, at my first Toto show aged 9. But yes, it's not one they usually play live.
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Oh they just played You Are The Flower, don't think they ever played that live. :tup
they did, at my first Toto show aged 9. But yes, it's not one they usually play live.
Oh nice, didn't know that.
Btw Sput is playing Rosanna with his left. :lol
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That was kinda short but a good show with a mixed setlist. It sounded like Toto to me although it's weird not hearing a roar from an audience. Joseph was just great!
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Oh they just played You Are The Flower, don't think they ever played that live. :tup
Odd choice imo, one of the few songs that are solely written by Kimball.
They got a cool band and I hope they can tour sometime in the future, would like to see them again.
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Oh they just played You Are The Flower, don't think they ever played that live. :tup
Odd choice imo, one of the few songs that are solely written by Kimball.
They got a cool band and I hope they can tour sometime in the future, would like to see them again.
It was actually a tribute to Kimball by Joseph.
They have a bunch of dates booked so hopefully that will happen.
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That's cool, the trbute thing. Don't know what they, especially Luke, think of Bobby now, but he was undeniably a big part of Toto.
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Seem like it's the last time we'll see the remaining original members perform together, atleast with Steve Porcaro. There was a major dispute going on between him and Lukather, that's why the band disbanded abruptly a year ago according to Lukather.
"I haven't spoken to Steve Porcaro, one of my oldest best friends, and I don't know if I ever will. I was accused of things I never did, and I was really upset by it. David Paich and I lost an incredibly expensive battle over a mistake I didn't make that was blamed on me. People made up their own backstories. It was really complicated.
Lukather said the final shows were "miserable and hard", although the band tried to deliver the best shows as the tour wound down. The experience left him feeling "isolated and blamed for things I didn't do, " he noted. Even after he'd proved his innocence," there were "no retractions, as there was someone who wanted to destroy us and our friendships.
It's all soul crushing. I didn't want things to end, but we were sued of it and now we're buried in legal debt, and I don't want to fight it anymore."
As usual it's hard to tell who's to blame since my gut feels that Lukather is the kind of person that blurts out whatever is on his mind for better or worse without thinking twice which probably get's him in trouble even if he means well. I'm reading his book right now and yea... :lol
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That's kinda heartbreaking! :(
Wasn't aware of any bad blood between Lukather and Porcaro, but that sounds pretty serious!
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Wow W.T.F!!
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I heard before that Luke and Steve P. hadn't spoken for a long time, but it was mostly blamed on Steve P. (by Luke) who didn't want to tour anymore.
And yes, Luke is quick to put the blame out there and speak things that are better left unsaid, or at least said in private. It's just sad that it should end like this.
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Not sure if this has been posted here before, but this Toto medley is dope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1EV_5U6GGo
The guitarist has put together a few of these types of things. He's also done this for Pink Floyd, Genesis, Queen, and an 80's one that is pretty cool. Obviously, these guys are all serious players (the drummer has played on a Flower Kings record, even), and they have a real respect for the material they do. This one is particularly great!
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Yea The Martin Miller Session Band is awesome! :tup
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New Luke song, pretty laid back, but killer song writing and solo;
https://youtu.be/ZTJVqXGj1dc
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Sounds like a song firmly targeted in the direction of Susan Porcaro.
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Finished reading Luke's book, a great read, I knew he played on a lot of records, but geez he was a busy lad back in the day.
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Rick Beato interview with Lukather...
https://youtu.be/OuCscgfbtw4
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I have a slot to interview Steve Lukather next week. Does anyone have questions for him?
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How does it feel to play large arenas in Europe but only play 1000 seat arenas in America?
Not that I'm complaining, 6th row was amazing 2 years ago.
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How does it feel to play large arenas in Europe but only play 1000 seat arenas in America?
Not that I'm complaining, 6th row was amazing 2 years ago.
That's a good question!
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What's in it for the new Toto with only him and Joe Williams as long time members. Just touring (after covid of course) or are there any plans to maybe record some new songs?
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This is the interview I did with Steve, where we talk about the new Toto lineup, his new solo album, the friendship with Ringo, doing the G3 shows, losing Eddie Van Halen, and much more: https://www.sonicperspectives.com/interviews/interview-with-steve-lukather/?fbclid=IwAR3yVjPhYdsPDpHTtPa39EGTrRB2U8cBhG53Oorn2SyhJtr_LppfXy2cyZs
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TOTO and The Players Club / Mascot Label Group have announced the global release of With A Little Help From My Friends on June 25. The performance captures one special night on November 21, 2020 when Steve Lukather, Joseph Williams and David Paich appeared with the new line-up of TOTO for a global event originating from Los Angeles, CA. Joining Lukather, Williams and Paich for this next chapter in their indelible history are new band members bassist John Pierce (Huey Lewis and The News), drummer Robert “Sput” Searight (Ghost-Note / Snarky Puppy), and keyboardist / background vocalist Steve Maggiora (Robert Jon & The Wreck). Keyboardist Dominique “Xavier” Taplin (Prince, Ghost-Note) and multi-instrumentalist / vocalist Warren Ham (Ringo Starr) segued over continuing their tenure in the ensemble. This marks the fifteenth incarnation of the TOTO line-up in consideration of band members or sidemen who joined or exited.
To watch the performance of “Till The End” click here: https://youtu.be/vB7qFkhwaY8
The pre-order goes live today here: https://smarturl.it/TOTO-MLG . Alongside LP pressings of the audio only, both a CD/DVD and CD/Blu-ray package are available. The track listing features “Till The End,” “Hold The Line,” “Pamela,” “Kingdom of Desire,” “White Sister,” “You Are The Flower,” “I Won’t Hold You Back,” “Stop Loving You,” “Home Of The Brave,” “Rosanna,” and “With A Little Help From My Friends.” In the DVD and Blu-ray releases, a documentary is featured alongside the performance, featuring thoughts from all members of the band that appeared that evening.
Steve Lukather a.k.a. Luke shares, “When the music is performed by great musicians it honors TOTO. The documentary featured on the DVD offers great insights in to our thoughts looking forward. David, who stands with us, alongside Joe and myself, desire to keep this music alive. And Paich could pop in any time for a show as a special surprise. When it came to plan this specific set list, we picked an eclectic group of songs for this one night only show. Looking forward, we’ll be selecting a broader mix from the TOTO catalogue that includes deep cuts, the hits, and tunes from Joe and my recently released solo albums. Both of us could not be more thrilled with the global response to these records. They charted all over the world, and integrating some of the music in to the new TOTO set brings a fresh spice to the TOTO The Dogz of Oz World Tour when we head back out to begin staging shows. Simply, both of us aim to bring the past TOTO to the present and beyond, and this first look at the new line-up sets the stage for a chapter in our history we can’t wait to write.”
Joe Williams offers, “It’s always a complete joy to perform a TOTO show, but this one was special. Joining me, Luke and David last November were three new top level, virtuoso musicians as well as a few returning geniuses. The show itself was born out of the need to play after being on Covid lockdown, but also served as the reason to build this new band. Right out of the gate this group gelled and dug deep into the new and old TOTO material. Among some of the deeper cuts is one of my all-time favorite songs, ‘You Are The Flower’ by the original - Bobby Kimball. Being a massive fan (and a good friend), I dedicate the performance to him. Also back are a few of my favorite things, ‘Till The End’ and ‘Pamela.’ Played to perfection by the new cats. I have the best job in the band because when I’m not singing, I get to watch the most incredible players work! The TOTO model holds strong and true. A band of the very best musicians and singers writing and performing all manner of cool songs. That’s how it began, and that’s how it continues.” He continues, “This documentary explores that concept by talking with David, Luke, Warren, Dominic X, John Pierce, Robert ‘Sput’ Searight, and Steve Maggiora about their experiences as players, and also about being a part of the TOTO legacy. And, of course discussion about the show as well. I think I’m in there too, saying how much I love these guys! Soon we’ll to get back out to you, on stage, in the flesh expanding our set with some even deeper ‘legacy’ cuts as well as some new stuff from Luke’s and my new records. We can’t wait! In the meantime, enjoy a little TOTO history and current events. Xo Joe.”
With A Little Help From My Friends was Produced by Joseph Williams, who also edited the accompanying long-form video. The band’s long-time front of house engineer Ken Freeman mixed and captured the sound that evening.
TOTO has announced the band will push all 2021 EU shows to 2022. Specific dates for those shows follows below.
Track listing:
1. Till The End
2. Hold The Line
3. Pamela
4. Kingdom Of Desire
5. White Sister
6. You Are The Flower
7. I Won’t Hold You Back
8. Stop Loving You
9. Band Introductions
10. Home Of The Brave
11. Rosanna
12. With A Little Help From My Friends
Tour dates 2022:
14 July, 2022 Bonn, Germany KunstRasen
15 July, 2022 Amsterdam, Netherlands Ziggo Dome
16 July, 2022 Halle, Germany Peißnitzinsel
19 July, 2022 Pratteln, Switzerland Z-7 Summer Nights
20 July, 2022 Tussling, Germany Schlossplatz
21 July, 2022 Middelkerke, Belgium Proximus Pop-Up Arena
23 July, 2022 Vitrolles, France Festival Jardin Sonore
28 July, 2022 Schwetzingen, Germany Schlossgarten
29 July, 2022 Graz, Austria Messe Open Air
31 July, 2022 Warsaw, Poland Torwar
10 August, 2022 Helsingborg, Sweden Sofiero Castle
11 August, 2022 Viborg, Denmark Paradepladsen
13 August, 2022 Copenhagen, Denmark Royal Arena
14 August, 2022 Gothenburg, Sweden Partille Arena
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I hope you like it as much as I do.
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I hope you like it as much as I do.
no, sadly, I absolutely do not.
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So what's the most underrated Toto album in your opinion?
Probably Fahrenheit for me.
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A lot of Toto albums are underrated in my opinion.. :D
But Kingdom of Desire and Fahrenheit for sure!
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A lot of Toto albums are underrated in my opinion.. :D
But Kingdom of Desire and Fahrenheit for sure!
That's true actually. I guess some more than others. :)
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Toto as a band is really underrated, so it applies to all their records. ;)
That said, Turn Back would be my choice.
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Yeah, Turn Back and Kingdom Of Desire I'd guess.
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A lot of Toto albums are underrated in my opinion.. :D
But Kingdom of Desire and Fahrenheit for sure!
That's true actually. I guess some more than others. :)
Fahrenheit is the one that I just don’t like. It lacked the rock for me.
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I think the first half still rocks, the second half not so much. Fahrenheit is okay but not among my favorites.
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A lot of Toto albums are underrated in my opinion.. :D
But Kingdom of Desire and Fahrenheit for sure!
That's true actually. I guess some more than others. :)
Fahrenheit is the one that I just don’t like. It lacked the rock for me.
Ditto. I would say Mindfields is under-rated.
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Tambu for me.
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Tambu for me.
Tambu is great. Fahrenheit gets my ‘underrated’ vote too.
Also, Toto as a band appears to be much more popular outside of the US.
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For sure. Here, they play 500 seat theaters. In Europe. 10,000 or better.
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Interesting how they’re much more loved and appreciated outside of their home country.
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For sure. Here, they play 500 seat theaters. In Europe. 10,000 or better.
Wow, what. Here (the Netherlands) they indeed sold out a 17,000 people show and they have two "intimate" 3000 people shows in the same week (one of which is also sold out).
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I've seen them a lot of times in Germany and it was places ranging from 5000 to 15000. And most of those shows were really well attended and some of them probably sold out.
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The cool thing seeing Toto in a 500 seat venue is being this close to them.
(https://i.postimg.cc/g2cyzQsY/20170625-194642.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VJLTHgJ)
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I really like concerts in small and intimate settings, you can see the band's interaction and are much more immersed in the music.
On the other hand I'm glad that Toto plays bigger venues in Europe, so that they hopefully keep going.
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I've seen them a lot of times in Germany and it was places ranging from 5000 to 15000. And most of those shows were really well attended and some of them probably sold out.
I went to one of the last Toto concerts in fall of 2019 at the Count Basie Theatre in NJ (Dream Theater is playing there next month). It's capacity is 1500 and was not sold out, but well attended.
It was just announced that Billy Idol pulled out of the Journey opening slot for the tour coming up soon and Toto is filling the void (they were already opening half of the tour). I'm happy to get to see them again, that time I saw them in 2019 was supposedly one of their "last" shows, so while I did want to see Billy Idol, Toto are going to be an awesome opener.
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I went to see them with my dad in 2019, which was the last tour with the big lineup including Paich and Porcaro. It was in Helsinki ice hall, which is basically an ice hockey ring that is sometimes repurposed as a live music venue. It was packed, and nearly sold out as far as I remember.
In 2005? they played a stadium in my hometown when my dad took me to see them. It was also packed!
They have always been popular in Finland!
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Tambu for me.
Love Tambu too. And it sounds SO good. One of my favorite productions.
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David Paich releases his first 'solo' album in August, first single sounds a lot like Toto (no surprise)
https://youtu.be/yE6ObiOwqgA
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Paich is an amazing songwriter but for me it was always the guys in Toto that made those songs come alive. Not sure if this will work for me with other musicians but I surely will give this a try.
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I actually really liked that Paich song! :tup
This to me sounds cut above the recent Lukather and Williams solo albums! This song also features Lukather on guitar (no surprise).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSvWSYgSM-g&ab_channel=aomoriwalker
That was tough to hear. :-\
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Wow.
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So much yikes in one six minute video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSvWSYgSM-g&ab_channel=aomoriwalker
That was tough to hear. :-\
Saw the video title while the ad's were playing and said to myself: Nope, I don't think i'll want to hear this..
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It's no secret that Bobby can't sing anymore. And he suffers from dementia. Sad to see him decline in such a way. :sad:
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And that bass solo could not have been more out of place (jump to 4:30 if you want to skip the singing)
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Yea it's sad to hear him not being able to sing anymore.
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:omg:
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So I finally got around to picking up the most recent full studio album XIV.
For some reason I always though it was rubbish, but really enjoyed it today, apart from he sound.
Sounds like someone put a blanket over the speakers :biggrin:
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I don't mind the sound and there are some very good songs on it.
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Huge Toto fan and i LOVE XIV. some great tunes there.
yes the sound sucks. but the tunes are there so i'm ok with it. Funny i remember Lukathar got butthurt on facebook over ans pointing out the sound. to many years playing loud concerts for him i think.
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Rick Beato interviews Luke
https://youtu.be/4nBbzajS29o
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Rick Beato interviews Luke
https://youtu.be/4nBbzajS29o
Lukather is an odd duck.
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So I finally got around to picking up the most recent full studio album XIV.
For some reason I always though it was rubbish, but really enjoyed it today, apart from he sound.
Sounds like someone put a blanket over the speakers :biggrin:
Their most recent (and final) studio album is Old Is New btw.
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Rick Beato interviews Luke
https://youtu.be/4nBbzajS29o
Lukather is an odd duck.
What makes you say that? I didn't have the time for 1,5 hours of that interview, so I don't know what he said.
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Rick Beato interviews Luke
https://youtu.be/4nBbzajS29o
Lukather is an odd duck.
What makes you say that? I didn't have the time for 1,5 hours of that interview, so I don't know what he said.
He talks like a 60's hippy. :lol
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Yeah, and he kinda looks like it. ;)
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Saw Toto for the 1st time last night in Dallas (Grand Prairie). I drove from Austin since a) prices with Journey in Austin were abusively high, not including taxes, fees, and parking and b) Toto was the only act and it was going to be a full 1 hr and 45 min set. Fucking well worth it. Just to see Lukather play is a blessing. This new lineup is super tight and didn't miss a beat. Kinda regret not seeing them earlier on but for whatever reason, Toto has been on my constant playing rotation this last 2/3 years.
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The new lineup's harmonies and musicianship are unreal.
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I thought they were great last year when I saw them open for Journey. I'd love to see the full set with this current version of the band.
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
Good luck.
They open for Journey again in Hartford on March 4th, and I'd go but I'm out of town.
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
Curious what you mean by Lukather's reputation?
And all the best for your health.
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
Curious what you mean by Lukather's reputation?
And all the best for your health.
He can be a bit of an A-hole or appear to be. I guess most of the time he appears to be like that is in situations where he demands alot from the people/crew around him so it's easy to judge him also. He's definitely a perfectionist and a leader and with that comes friction with people in diffrent ways.
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Yeah, I know Luke can be a dick at times, but I've seen Toto and Lukather solo countless times and never ever was there any problem, so I don't understand the phrase "even with Lukather's reputation" in combination with wanting to see Toto live. That's why I asked.
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I had the enormous pleasure of meeting him when I was a child (along with the other Toto members at the time) and he clearly wasn't unnerving. What might make people think so is that he definitely knows what he wants and there is an honesty about him that might put some people off (not me, I'm like this myself). He was a total funster too. Oh and not to mention, they were brilliant that night. If you want to understand him a bit better, I'd recommend reading his autobiography (The Gospel According To Luke)
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I kind of hate that perfection and the pursuit of excellence is so often viewed so negatively. Granted, it's his version of perfection, so there's that, but why should it be bad to demand the most out of those you're WORKING with (since this IS his job).
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I don't hate it and I'm not sure if he's really a perfectionist. In Toto David Paich was often the one that drove people nuts to finally get the performances the way he wanted them. And if you read Luke's book, in his session playing days he and the other musicians often had to improvise and make up things on the spot, because often enough they got only a very rough sketch of what the song was supposed to sound like.
It's more that he has a very loose mouth and sometimes he should think before he speaks. And every second word he uses is "fuck". And he can come across as arrogant, and you don't know if he's joking or not.
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This came up randomly in my YT feed and it's sounds like pure Toto worship with some old school DT prog.
https://youtu.be/5pmIece2gIs
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I'm about to watch the Rick Beato interview with Steve Lukather; I'm also reading his autobiography right now. He's a fascinating guy.
But, he looks like Jerry Garcia now. :)
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
Curious what you mean by Lukather's reputation?
And all the best for your health.
He can be a bit of an A-hole or appear to be. I guess most of the time he appears to be like that is in situations where he demands alot from the people/crew around him so it's easy to judge him also. He's definitely a perfectionist and a leader and with that comes friction with people in diffrent ways.
yeah that is what I was alluding to.
I had a Colonoscopy yesterday, which sometimes can include lingering effects, etc. But I'm doing well now.
I actually did buy tickets for the show in Minneapolis tomorrow night. Like Alan Parsons Project, Toto are a rare case of a band who my wife actually does like enough of their music to go see with me. She actually frequently brings up how they should be in the Rock Hall. She likes the fact they played on Thriller and were kind of like the late 70's and 80's version of The Wrecking Crew in some ways.
Jeff Porcaro especially stands out to me. The guy was masterful, and you look at his list of credits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Porcaro), it's crazy. Someone should actually do a tribute to him (not just Toto, but a lot of his other work as well).
edit: there was one on KLOS in 1992
https://archive.org/details/toto-1992-jeff-porcaro-tribute-la-klos-fm
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As you can see above, I'm on a Lukather kick right now. The thing about him is, he's all humble and self-effacing, "hey, I'm one of the guys, he's my best friend in the world, we had a great hang, we just went in and jammed..." very LA, very cavalier, but no bullshit, he's a technician. He learned to sight read at something like 14. He didn't sit home and wait for stuff to come to him, he went to it. And he wasn't afraid; time and time and time again in his book and in interviews, he talked about getting time with Lee Ritenour and George Harrison and David Foster and... he seems to have taken advantage, in a good way, of every opportunity he had (though if the cocaine rumours are even half-true, I can't possible imagine how he kept up that pace, and when he found time to play).
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Lukather definitely had some addiction problems. For a time when playing in Germany, he always presented a bottle of Apfelkorn, a sweet and nasty liquor, which he then downed during the concert. And there are pictures of him from the 80s, bloated face and all, where he clearly doesn't look healthy, probably because of drug abuse.
But he was and still is one of the best guitar players out there. He has a tremendous sense of tone and melody and he has a fantastic phrasing and vibrato. He plays with a lot of feeling and he's incredibly diverse, yet still has his own recognizable style. He's my favorite guitar player along with Eddie Van Halen.
He has played with almost everyone, name a well-known mainstream musician and he has some credits on some of his/her records. Sometimes I think Lukather, Paich and Porcaro played on probably every AOR record in the 80s.
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Lukather definitely had some addiction problems. For a time when playing in Germany, he always presented a bottle of Apfelkorn, a sweet and nasty liquor, which he then downed during the concert. And there are pictures of him from the 80s, bloated face and all, where he clearly doesn't look healthy, probably because of drug abuse.
But he was and still is one of the best guitar players out there. He has a tremendous sense of tone and melody and he has a fantastic phrasing and vibrato. He plays with a lot of feeling and he's incredibly diverse, yet still has his own recognizable style. He's my favorite guitar player along with Eddie Van Halen.
He has played with almost everyone, name a well-known mainstream musician and he has some credits on some of his/her records. Sometimes I think Lukather, Paich and Porcaro played on probably every AOR record in the 80s.
I think they've made that claim! It's amazing; even bands you wouldn't think - like Cheap Trick, Pink Floyd - used guys like that.
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I would go for seeing them live next month in Minneapolis, even with Lukather's reputation, as I've never seen them before.
It's on March 22nd, just a couple of days after I'm having a medical procedure done, but I may be ok by then.
Curious what you mean by Lukather's reputation?
And all the best for your health.
He can be a bit of an A-hole or appear to be. I guess most of the time he appears to be like that is in situations where he demands alot from the people/crew around him so it's easy to judge him also. He's definitely a perfectionist and a leader and with that comes friction with people in diffrent ways.
yeah that is what I was alluding to.
I had a Colonoscopy yesterday, which sometimes can include lingering effects, etc. But I'm doing well now.
I actually did buy tickets for the show in Minneapolis tomorrow night. Like Alan Parsons Project, Toto are a rare case of a band who my wife actually does like enough of their music to go see with me. She actually frequently brings up how they should be in the Rock Hall. She likes the fact they played on Thriller and were kind of like the late 70's and 80's version of The Wrecking Crew in some ways.
Jeff Porcaro especially stands out to me. The guy was masterful, and you look at his list of credits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Porcaro), it's crazy. Someone should actually do a tribute to him (not just Toto, but a lot of his other work as well).
edit: there was one on KLOS in 1992
https://archive.org/details/toto-1992-jeff-porcaro-tribute-la-klos-fm
There's a very well known bootleg of that show, Amazon are even selling it, well worth seeking out.
https://www.discogs.com/release/10996569-Toto-Toto-Friends-Jeff-Porcaro-Tribute-Concert
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I wonder why that never got an official release. Very good concert with lots of guests and a worthy tribute to Jeff.
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Lukather definitely had some addiction problems. For a time when playing in Germany, he always presented a bottle of Apfelkorn, a sweet and nasty liquor, which he then downed during the concert. And there are pictures of him from the 80s, bloated face and all, where he clearly doesn't look healthy, probably because of drug abuse.
But he was and still is one of the best guitar players out there. He has a tremendous sense of tone and melody and he has a fantastic phrasing and vibrato. He plays with a lot of feeling and he's incredibly diverse, yet still has his own recognizable style. He's my favorite guitar player along with Eddie Van Halen.
He has played with almost everyone, name a well-known mainstream musician and he has some credits on some of his/her records. Sometimes I think Lukather, Paich and Porcaro played on probably every AOR record in the 80s.
he talks about his recovery in a quite recent interview (grey hair)
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I wonder why that never got an official release. Very good concert with lots of guests and a worthy tribute to Jeff.
Judging by the set list and the amount of different artists, I would say record label politics.
Getting the song rights, all the artists labels on side, publishing rights, management etc, would be a nightmare.
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Yeah, that's probably it. But it's still stupid, I would think the guests wouldn't have a problem with it, because they agreed to perform and to be broadcasted in the first place.
And if it's record label politics, then f*ck them.
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Yeah, that's probably it. But it's still stupid, I would think the guests wouldn't have a problem with it, because they agreed to perform and to be broadcasted in the first place.
And if it's record label politics, then f*ck them.
I don't know that it's always the artists; Eddie was part of that, if memory serves, and it's well-documented that HE'S not the reason that he did so much uncredited or that what he did do wasn't released.
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That's what I'm saying. Most of those guest artists recorded with Jeff Porcaro during his time, that's the main reason they were invited. I can't believe that they suddenly have a problem with releasing those song from a tribute concert.
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New podcast interview with Lukather
https://www.insidemusicast.com/musicasts/2023/12/06-steve-lukather?fbclid=IwAR1i0pMQCjo5ypHjC6eA6QKp33yk9o4K4rLClDNwLcThsqgssnhJcT6hnUs
New album out this Friday.
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trailer for a documentary on Bobby Kimball:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nViJqHldh28
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Nice to see so many Toto members wanting to be a part of it. That was tough to watch towards the end.