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General => Archive => Political and Religious => Topic started by: Sigz on April 20, 2012, 11:46:41 AM
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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/stacie-halas-fired-porn-film_n_1437467.html?ref=los-angeles
OXNARD, Calif. -- A Southern California science teacher was fired Wednesday night for performing in a pornographic video, school district officials said.
Oxnard School District trustees voted in closed session to dismiss Stacie Halas, who taught seventh- and eighth-graders at Richard B. Haydock Intermediate School. Veronica Robles-Solis, the board president, said the trustees voted unanimously to dismiss Halas.
"We're dealing with the disruption that we believe it would cause our district, and the schools in our district, if she were to return back to the classroom," Superintendent Jeff Chancer said.
She had been on paid administrative leave since her appearance on the video surfaced last month. No students were in the video, which was apparently produced before she became an Oxnard teacher in 2009. Her age hasn't been disclosed.
Halas could not be reached, and the teacher union declined comment.
Student claims that the teacher was moonlighting as a porn star were initially dismissed after school officials said they couldn't find any images of her on the Internet. The investigation was quickly restarted, however, when other teachers showed administrators downloads from smartphones.
It turned out that the school computer system blocked access to sex sites.
"I saw parts of the video," Chancer said last month. "It's hardcore pornography."
The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image.
"It has been alleged that one of our teachers is depicted in at least one pornographic video and possibly others on the Internet," Chancer said in the letter.
Thoughts?
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was she hot?
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Raise your hand if the first thing you did was Google to find vids. *raises hand*
Decent looking generic blonde. As for the issue, like it wasn't going to get out sooner or later.
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Thoughts:
A. The district's correct. Now that she's been outed, it'd be a major league distraction, and I support their right to avoid it. To be clear, I have absolutely no moral objections to her performing or continuing to teach afterward. I just get why the school would prefer not to put up with it.
B. "The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image." This is the stupidest attempt at damage control I've heard of in years. I think the person who came up with that brilliant idea is probably more deserving of termination than the teacher.
C. "No students were in the video, which was apparently produced before she became an Oxnard teacher in 2009." Well, I should think not. Why even mention that, other than to throw out a casual link between mainstream and child pornography?
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B. "The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image." This is the stupidest attempt at damage control I've heard of in years. I think the person who came up with that brilliant idea is probably more deserving of termination than the teacher.
:lol That was my first thought.
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I think there are a lot of jobs more insidious and potentially corrupting to children than being a pornographic actress.
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As do I, but none that are going to be half as big a distraction to the school. Especially if she's hot.
Here's my concern, though. What if it's strictly amateur stuff that she does for her own amusement? That's where I have a hard time reconciling this. I suppose that it just remains a function of whether or not she get's found out.
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B. "The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image." This is the stupidest attempt at damage control I've heard of in years. I think the person who came up with that brilliant idea is probably more deserving of termination than the teacher.
I think it was a great idea.
"Ok guys, time for some damage control, but I think we can still contain this. Let's send out a letter to everybody letting them know about it, so they won't look up the video. Slam dunk."
Yeah, when little Billy finds out that the hot blonde teacher he's been tugging it to the whole year has porn on the internet, which will now be dead easy to search for now that it's national news and has been identified by everyone else, he'll be sure to avoid it.
With publicity this good, she'll probably get back into porn, since her teaching career is shot. Thanks, guys!
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C. "No students were in the video, which was apparently produced before she became an Oxnard teacher in 2009." Well, I should think not. Why even mention that, other than to throw out a casual link between mainstream and child pornography?
They mentioned it because the first thing that some people will think when they hear that a teacher was in a porno video is "Holy shit, with students?!" Even if they state that the video was made before she became a teacher (which they did), people are still too stupid to put two and two together.
was she hot?
Yup, that was my first thought as well.
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Nice videos, for a school teacher. I'd imagine that there will be quite a few 7th and 8th grade boys watching this; makes me kind of jealous for not having a porn star at my school :sad:
On a more serious note, I think the school made the right decision. Distracting doesn't even begin to describe this situation.
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As do I, but none that are going to be half as big a distraction to the school. Especially if she's hot.
Here's my concern, though. What if it's strictly amateur stuff that she does for her own amusement? That's where I have a hard time reconciling this. I suppose that it just remains a function of whether or not she get's found out.
Even if you go on a private site it can still leak. See Rex Ryan and his foot love. Yet If your a football coach it's ok.
I do see why they did it. I just hope she can get a job somewhere else where it won't follow her.
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It will follow her, and her career in education is now over. It sucks, and as much as I would love to say that it shouldn't matter what she did before becoming a teacher, it just doesn't work that way. Unless she changes her name and/or completely changes her identity, she will be forever known as the teacher who did porn, and she will not get hired anywhere, for the same reasons she was fired from this latest gig.
America, land of the free.
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My first reaction to this story, as it is to all instances of moral zealotry, was annoyance. Then I looked up the images. Yeah, it's hard to teach adolescent boys about plate tectonics when all they're thinking about is you opening a pizza box with a penis inside. Wow.
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America, land of the free.
Sure. Adults have the freedom to star in porn movies. Other adults have the freedom to not hire and/or to fire them based on that. That's a good thing.
The story's complicated by the fact that this is the school district, not a private school, but if no one wants to hire her, tough. She's certainly not entitled to any job, or even to a job.
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"Got it bad, got it bad, got it baaaaad.... I'm hot for teacherrrrr...." :metal
The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image.
Yeah... like THAT's gonna work.... :lol
Anyone own up to discovering it first? :biggrin:
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America, land of the free.
Sure. Adults have the freedom to star in porn movies. Other adults have the freedom to not hire and/or to fire them based on that. That's a good thing.
The story's complicated by the fact that this is the school district, not a private school, but if no one wants to hire her, tough. She's certainly not entitled to any job, or even to a job.
Yeah, I know. It just seems to me that somewhere else, some countries in Europe maybe, this wouldn't be nearly the big deal that it is here. People would find out that she did some porn years ago when she needed the cash, but she's earned her degree and teaching certificate since then and is a good teacher, so no problem.
Here, they go pretty overboard with "protecting the children" from shit they see and hear every day anyway and use it as an excuse to fire people or force resignations out of them.
Maybe I'm a bit oversensitive to it because I was a teacher with a checkered past and I was stupid enough to share some stories with my students. Fortunately, most of my students were pretty cool about it and just thought it was funny, maybe even cool, but no teacher has universal admiration, and I always wondered/worried about what would happen if some kid went to the administration with it, and they wanted to push it.
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Other adults have the freedom to not hire and/or to fire them based on that. That's a good thing.
Actually, I don't agree with this part. She has exactly the same credentials she had when they hired her, and nothing she has done in classroom, or outside of it for that matter, has changed. They found out something about her past which was in no way illegal, and they fired her because they said it would be a distraction. Yeah, it would. But I'd be interested in seeing how her contract was written and if there's some clause saying they can actually fire her over something she did three years which, as I said, was perfectly legal.
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America, land of the free.
Sure. Adults have the freedom to star in porn movies. Other adults have the freedom to not hire and/or to fire them based on that. That's a good thing.
The story's complicated by the fact that this is the school district, not a private school, but if no one wants to hire her, tough. She's certainly not entitled to any job, or even to a job.
Yeah, I know. It just seems to me that somewhere else, some countries in Europe maybe, this wouldn't be nearly the big deal that it is here. People would find out that she did some porn years ago when she needed the cash, but she's earned her degree and teaching certificate since then and is a good teacher, so no problem. I'm not sure how relevant that is, though.
Here, they go pretty overboard with "protecting the children" from shit they see and hear every day anyway and use it as an excuse to fire people or force resignations out of them.
Maybe I'm a bit oversensitive to it because I was a teacher with a checkered past and I was stupid enough to share some stories with my students. Fortunately, most of my students were pretty cool about it and just thought it was funny, maybe even cool, but no teacher has universal admiration, and I always wondered/worried about what would happen if some kid went to the administration with it, and they wanted to push it.
Sorry to hear that :(
Kids don't see and hear porn every day. I certainly didn't, and I'm only just 26 so it hasn't been long. Maybe some kids do. Maybe most kids do. But I think that popular generalization is entirely unjustified--a great many manage to get through their childhood and teenage years without being exposed to explicit sex.
This story's odd in that if students hadn't found out about it, it would never have mattered. If they had, it likely would have been the subject of gossip and made the experience miserable for her, but I don't think it would have changed the students much in any way. As a parent, I probably would have used it as an opportunity to teach my children that people could change, even though I strongly believe that what she did was wrong.
The school made the right decision because it would have been distracting--but I agree with you, in a sense, because I don't think it should have been. Unfortunately, that's just how it is.
Actually, I don't agree with this part. She has exactly the same credentials she had when they hired her, and nothing she has done in classroom, or outside of it for that matter, has changed. They found out something about her past which was in no way illegal, and they fired her because they said it would be a distraction. Yeah, it would. But I'd be interested in seeing how her contract was written and if there's some clause saying they can actually fire her over something she did three years which, as I said, was perfectly legal.
I'd be surprised if there wasn't some such provision, especially for a teacher, so I just assumed there was. I guess I'll add the caveat that if her contract didn't allow for termination, they shouldn't have let her go.
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I can understand the district's reasons for getting rid of her, but this whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for our fear of sex.
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Usually contracts are written so that if you do something which damages your credibility as a teacher, they can fire or suspend you or whatever. Busted for drunk driving, for example. Hey, it can happen. If it happens once to a teacher with 20 years experience and an excellent track record, they'll probably be fine. If it happens repeatedly, or to someone who hasn't earned their tenure yet, they might point out that it is illegal and use that.
Here, we've got something she did years ago, but not that long ago (2009), which was legal. As I said, she still has the same credentials she had before, and even has a few years experience now and so is presumably a better teacher. But it comes down to her contract, and I suppose how good of a lawyer she can get. I agree that it would be a distraction in the classroom, but the school board blew the lid on it in the first place. They heard a rumor, found out it was true, and canned her, claiming that they're acting proactively or something.
Her career is over. Any school district she applies to now will look at her resumé and see that she was dismissed in the middle of a school year and ask why, and she'll have to tell them something. Because of this experience, she'll probably figure it's best to come clean up front, and that will mean she won't be hired except maybe by the most desparate school districts. Her current school district could at least have kept their mouths shut for another two months and let her finish out the year, infinitely increasing her chances of getting a job elsewhere. But they didn't just fire her; they ended her career. They didn't have to do that.
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Her career is over. Any school district she applies to now will look at her resumé and see that she was dismissed in the middle of a school year and ask why, and she'll have to tell them something. Because of this experience, she'll probably figure it's best to come clean up front, and that will mean she won't be hired except maybe by the most desparate school districts. Her current school district could at least have kept their mouths shut for another two months and let her finish out the year, infinitely increasing her chances of getting a job elsewhere. But they didn't just fire her; they ended her career. They didn't have to do that.
This is a very good point. There are ways that they could have handled this without blowing her out of the water. I suppose that's probably what her appeal is trying to accomplish.
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My first reaction to this story, as it is to all instances of moral zealotry, was annoyance. Then I looked up the images. Yeah, it's hard to teach adolescent boys about plate tectonics when all they're thinking about is you opening a pizza box with a penis inside. Wow.
Pretty much. Also hearing that she's had one in every hole. That probably won't help middle school boys concentrate in her class.
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Yeah, it's hard to teach adolescent boys about plate tectonics when all they're thinking about is you opening a pizza box with a penis inside.
This is really the issue. I don't care about the moral side of it. You can't be a teacher when your students can look up porn videos starring you.
If she was a stripper, and her students didn't know, then there'd be no reason to care. Her past history as a stripper does not necessarily affect her ability to educate.
Being in porn does.
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Just looked up her work.
No way in hell she'd be able to conduct a class who'd seen that stuff.
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Just looked up her work.
No way in hell she'd be able to conduct a class who'd seen that stuff.
+1
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Honestly, it's not going to be that much different from just having a hot teacher. The human mind is dirty, it doesn't need video of the teacher having sex for a teenager to imagine nailing her. That said, it might be best if she taught like k-5, as her male students wouldn't have a one track mind.
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True, but this leaves a little less up to the imagination. If I can physically hold the pictures of my hot teacher getting fucked in every hole in the body, I am much more likely to think those dirty thoughts. I agree with the elementary teacher thought though, I wonder if any elementary school would be willing to hire her after this situation.
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Nope. They would be completely afraid of the outrage from parents disgusted by the thought of their little angels being taught by this heinous, sleezy woman. Their might only be a few, or the fears might be completely unfounded anyway, but they still wouldn't hire her. If and when it came out, the parents and the media would demand to know if the school knew about it when they hired her, the school would have to admit that they did but didn't think it would be a problem, and not only would the teacher be out of work again, but this time some school board member or principal would also have to resign. Because that's how it works. If parents get pissed enough, and they will, nothing will satisfy them short of a couple of resignations.
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B. "The district sent a letter to parents of students at all three of its junior high schools, asking that their children not search Internet sex sites for the teacher's image." This is the stupidest attempt at damage control I've heard of in years. I think the person who came up with that brilliant idea is probably more deserving of termination than the teacher.
:lol That was my first thought.
Clearly they haven't heard of the Barbara Streisand Effect.
As for the topic, its unfortunate she was fired but given the situation I don't see any other course of action that could have worked.
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True, but this leaves a little less up to the imagination. If I can physically hold the pictures of my hot teacher getting fucked in every hole in the body, I am much more likely to think those dirty thoughts. I agree with the elementary teacher thought though, I wonder if any elementary school would be willing to hire her after this situation.
I guess I'm just not one who needs a video to imagine fucking someone. Your mind might think dirtier after seeing the video, but your attention is either on her, or what she's teaching - and if she's hot, it's most likely going to be on her anyways. I'm also sure the novelty of the whole situation would fade, especially when you're still not sleeping with the teacher.
Nope. They would be completely afraid of the outrage from parents disgusted by the thought of their little angels being taught by this heinous, sleezy woman. Their might only be a few, or the fears might be completely unfounded anyway, but they still wouldn't hire her. If and when it came out, the parents and the media would demand to know if the school knew about it when they hired her, the school would have to admit that they did but didn't think it would be a problem, and not only would the teacher be out of work again, but this time some school board member or principal would also have to resign. Because that's how it works. If parents get pissed enough, and they will, nothing will satisfy them short of a couple of resignations.
Never said people would like it, but it's pretty crazy to think someone who got paid for sex isn't capable of teaching children. She got paid to do something everyone does, will do, or wants to do. It's not like she killed someone, or did something truly immoral.
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I can understand the district's reasons for getting rid of her, but this whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for our fear of sex.
This.
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I can understand the district's reasons for getting rid of her, but this whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for our fear of sex.
This.
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I can understand the district's reasons for getting rid of her, but this whole thing wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for our fear of sex.
This.
What? Why is this a "fear of sex" issue? You're saying we should be accepting of students being able to see their teacher being penetrated?
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You're saying it like it's something that's happening in the classroom. It's a video that was made before she was ever a teacher, and it's a video that the kids need to go out of their way to look for to ever find which means they're already interested in the subject to begin with. They're borderline high school age kids, they know (or should know) what sex is. The parents are horrified to learn that little Jimmy is watching porn at all, that his teacher is in the video just gives them an easy target to potentially lash out at.
I said it's a fear of sex issue because this wouldn't be a huge deal if sex wasn't so taboo. For starters I'm not buying the "the video's existence will make it impossible for her to teach a class now" excuse, this was done because the school district doesn't want to deal with the outrage from parents. Even if their excuse was the real reason she was gotten rid of, it still goes back to what I said. The core of the issue is that apparently these 7th and 8th grade students are so sheltered from the idea of sex that apparently it's impossible for them to learn from this woman now because they're so traumatized by the images they've got associated with her now. And before anyone brings up how explicit the video was, I can guarantee that this exact same thing would have happened even if the video were the most vanilla, missionary position sex imaginable.
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Essentially, our society has been conditioned to frown upon sexuality. Nudity is widely unaccepted (even though a naked human body is completely natural), and sex is viewed as a very taboo subject (when in fact it is nothing more than pleasurable reproduction). As an example, nudity in a film will earn it an R rating, while violence often does not. This is a clear indicator of where our society is in dealing with sexuality, and for the most part (especially in America) it would prefer to ignore sex altogether. Comprehensive sex-ed classes hardly exist, and parents often try to avoid talking to their kids about sex.
With such an awful connotation pertaining to sex, porn is obviously going to be viewed in a very negative light. What I think ehra was trying to say, and what I agree with, is that if it wasn't for societies fear of sex, porn wouldn't be such a forbidden topic (and this whole thing would likely not be an issue). To be honest, I think porn is often unfairly accused of being pure evil. As long as it is legal and consensual sex, I think its perfectly fine entertainment.
Now whether or not students should be able to see their teacher being penetrated is another matter... Most likely, many of them probably already spend time watching other women being penetrated. Needless to say, this situation is a little different (and no doubt very distracting), and perhaps even without our fear of sex this teacher would still lose her job.
Bottom line: most middle school boys are gonna watch porn anyways, so the issue is really whether or not it will be distracting to watch their teacher in porn (which I think it certainly would be)
DAMN, why didn't this stuff happen to me when I was in middle school!
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
It was just a hands-on lesson in geometry. Very useful.
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
I'm guessing it wasn't when he was in 7th and 8th grade. Parents are very protective of sex with pre teens and just getting into teens.
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
I'm guessing it wasn't when he was in 7th and 8th grade. Parents are very protective of sex with pre teens and just getting into teens.
If by "protective" you mean something more like, "idiotically believing their kids won't ever have sex, don't want to have sex, and are innocent creatures."
Just heard this story, and it's somewhat relevant... bout the same age, apparently my brother saw a porn video at a friends house. People found out, my parents got that, "oh I'm so sorry" call, typical of the reaction in America... my dad talked to my brother, told him, "you'll never last that long," and pretty much left it at that.
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Over here there's an increasing phenomenon of kids making their own pr0n and recording it with their phones before playing it to their friends in class. I didn't believe it at first, but I'm assured by some friends that have young teenage kids that it is going on. Heaven help them if they should succeed at anything and become prominent in the media... you can bet your ass that the footage will surface in years to come..... Life in Britain.... :omg:
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Over here there's an increasing phenomenon of kids making their own pr0n and recording it with their phones before playing it to their friends in class. I didn't believe it at first, but I'm assured by some friends that have young teenage kids that it is going on. Heaven help them if they should succeed at anything and become prominent in the media... you can bet your ass that the footage will surface in years to come..... Life in Britain.... :omg:
If they were in the US, they'd be charged with child pornography for having naked pictures OF THEMSELVES on their phone.
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Over here there's an increasing phenomenon of kids making their own pr0n and recording it with their phones before playing it to their friends in class. I didn't believe it at first, but I'm assured by some friends that have young teenage kids that it is going on. Heaven help them if they should succeed at anything and become prominent in the media... you can bet your ass that the footage will surface in years to come..... Life in Britain.... :omg:
If they were in the US, they'd be charged with child pornography for having naked pictures OF THEMSELVES on their phone.
Reminds me of this one interview I once saw for Franco Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet, in which Olivia Hussey as Juliet was not permitted in the US to see the film, for fear of seeing her own breasts.
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
I'm guessing it wasn't when he was in 7th and 8th grade. Parents are very protective of sex with pre teens and just getting into teens.
If by "protective" you mean something more like, "idiotically believing their kids won't ever have sex, don't want to have sex, and are innocent creatures."
Just heard this story, and it's somewhat relevant... bout the same age, apparently my brother saw a porn video at a friends house. People found out, my parents got that, "oh I'm so sorry" call, typical of the reaction in America... my dad talked to my brother, told him, "you'll never last that long," and pretty much left it at that.
Nice self-esteem boost.
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Not gonna vouch for my parents strong suit on that issue, but it's still a lot better than punishing your kid for doing something he's going to do, he was built to do, and something you likely did or would have done yourself.
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I completely agree. No point in trying to stop something natural.
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A friend of mine from college showed me a porn website that belonged to his math teacher, and no one ever made a fuss about that...
I'm guessing it wasn't when he was in 7th and 8th grade. Parents are very protective of sex with pre teens and just getting into teens.
If by "protective" you mean something more like, "idiotically believing their kids won't ever have sex, don't want to have sex, and are innocent creatures."
Just heard this story, and it's somewhat relevant... bout the same age, apparently my brother saw a porn video at a friends house. People found out, my parents got that, "oh I'm so sorry" call, typical of the reaction in America... my dad talked to my brother, told him, "you'll never last that long," and pretty much left it at that.
What's wrong with you. I have no problem with any one's personal life and I think the school F'ed it up but if you can't see why parents of 12 and 13 year old's would have a problem with it coming out, your just out of whack. I wouldn't think of schoolwork at all If I was 12 and 13 after seeing the video. And I'm tired of this "America" bullshit.
I love sex just as much as the next person but you want your kids not to see their teachers in sex video's. We are talking Jr High here. Not High School.
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I love sex just as much as the next person but you want your kids not to see their teachers in sex video's. We are talking Jr High here. Not High School.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with me, and I'm pretty sure I saw my first hard core porn by the time I was in 8th grade.
Not wanting something doesn't mean it won't happen, and acting as if it doesn't have to happen is silly. Also, if your kid is looking up porn you don't want him to see, maybe you should consider the fact that you're not keeping a close enough eye on your kids activities. Seems to me it's at least as much a failure of parenting, if you actually want to get into the blame game, for a kid to see the porn video, as it is the teacher who made it.
And so, if they were in 9th grade, it would be aokay?
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Reality is in the middle. But, you can't just brush this off as "oh, kids will look at porn anyway!" porn when I was in middle school was my friend's dad's Playboys. Hard to believe that was already like 10 years ago. Damn.
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you can't just brush this off as "oh, kids will look at porn anyway!"
Sorry, but why not?
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you can't just brush this off as "oh, kids will look at porn anyway!"
Sorry, but why not?
Because, as the law stands now, it's illegal for these kids to look at porn.
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hmm... then maybe the law should be changed.
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Why?
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The more years that pass the more you're going to have to deal with the simple reality that kids are going to be able to find anything and everything they want online, and it's only going to get easier as time goes by. The amount of information that's freely available to us is great, but it also means parents can't just pretend certain things won't come up by censoring what their kids are exposed to anymore. Instead we'll need to teach our kids how to deal with certain topics in a healthy, mature way.
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Let's see here. Seneca is absolutely correct that Americans are far to uptight about sexuality, and therefore porn. It actually borders on paranoia at times. Ehra is probably wrong that this is all about that uptightness. Rather than a fear of sexuality, I'd chalk it up to an understanding of it. Kids have a preoccupation with sex, and this would be a monumental source of distraction. I agree with Scheavo that there's a huge difference between not wanting your kids whacking off in front of Back Door Sluts IX and completely blowing your stack over it. It's not the end of the world, and honestly, a huge overreaction from mom and dad will probably be far more harmful than the porn itself.
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Why?
Because it's obviously been an ineffective law.
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I love sex just as much as the next person but you want your kids not to see their teachers in sex video's. We are talking Jr High here. Not High School.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with me, and I'm pretty sure I saw my first hard core porn by the time I was in 8th grade.
Not wanting something doesn't mean it won't happen, and acting as if it doesn't have to happen is silly. Also, if your kid is looking up porn you don't want him to see, maybe you should consider the fact that you're not keeping a close enough eye on your kids activities. Seems to me it's at least as much a failure of parenting, if you actually want to get into the blame game, for a kid to see the porn video, as it is the teacher who made it.
And so, if they were in 9th grade, it would be aokay?
There is a big difference to watching a porn by some hot bimbo you've never met or will never meet and seeing a porn of a person in your life like a teacher. That is the difference. You don't think I had Penthouse with sticky pages at age 12 and 13? Yet if I had a hot teacher and I saw that porno (You kids don't know how lucky you are with the access to porno's via the internet) I would never pay attention to what she had to say. My imagination would be running wild.
The school handled it wrong like many others said and that's the real discussion, not if kids should or shouldn't see porn. Stop with the age Scheavo, that's not the argument.
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Did you ever have a teacher that was worthy of being in a porno? Did you ever have a teacher that attractive?
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Nope.
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Did you ever have a teacher that was worthy of being in a porno? Did you ever have a teacher that attractive?
Yes
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There is a big difference to watching a porn by some hot bimbo you've never met or will never meet and seeing a porn of a person in your life like a teacher. That is the difference.
This, without question. This has nothing to do with a hangup about sex.
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I bet the parents that object to this are the same parents that allow their children to download uncensored rap music and watch MTV as they please.... A teacher being in a past porno is not going to corrupt or alter their children's future.... even if they watch it in 8th grade. Parents need to butt out. Odds are none of these kids would have ever known their teacher was in such a video, I'd bet almost any amount of money they have all seen it now.
When i was in 6th grade, my friends and why would sit in front of the tv until about 4 AM trying to catch any glimpse of a tit or vagina on those fuzzy paper view channels (they were fuzzy 12 years ago, not sure about today). Had we had the Internet... You could bet everything you own that we would have been watching hardcore stuff.
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If my parents knew the real reason I wanted DSL so much in high school... I doubt I would've gotten DSL.
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If my parents knew the real reason I wanted DSL so much in high school... I doubt I would've gotten DSL.
Do you really think they were that oblivious?
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If my parents knew the real reason I wanted DSL so much in high school... I doubt I would've gotten DSL.
Do you really think they were that oblivious?
Knowing my parents, probably. They are not internet or computer savvy, at all. My obsessive gaming at the time was the perfect cover.
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I guess that would work. As I've gotten older, I've found that my parents were a lot smarter than I gave them credit for when I was a teenager. In VERY surprising ways.
edit: I wanted to edit this so we weren't almost agreeing to a small degree. But I said fuck it, today's a good day. Things can change.
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A teacher being in a past porno is not going to corrupt or alter their children's future....
I don't see where anyone is arguing that point. I see where the school district felt that having a teacher who the students know to be in a pornographic movie will be a distraction from the students being able to learn from said teacher.
Granted, it's the district's fault for sending out that stupid letter and making the porn known to a lot more students than would have otherwise...
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Over here there's an increasing phenomenon of kids making their own pr0n and recording it with their phones before playing it to their friends in class. I didn't believe it at first, but I'm assured by some friends that have young teenage kids that it is going on. Heaven help them if they should succeed at anything and become prominent in the media... you can bet your ass that the footage will surface in years to come..... Life in Britain.... :omg:
If they were in the US, they'd be charged with child pornography for having naked pictures OF THEMSELVES on their phone.
I just realised that I haven't got a clue about how the law would see that over here.... :huh:
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A teacher being in a past porno is not going to corrupt or alter their children's future....
I don't see where anyone is arguing that point. I see where the school district felt that having a teacher who the students know to be in a pornographic movie will be a distraction from the students being able to learn from said teacher.
Granted, it's the district's fault for sending out that stupid letter and making the porn known to a lot more students than would have otherwise...
Ya know, they could probably check to see if this is true. If the real reason was becuase they felt the teacher couldn't teach - which I don't think it is - why not actually study the class, look at grades, and watch over it? And if it is true, I'd say Orbert hit it on the head earlier:
Her current school district could at least have kept their mouths shut for another two months and let her finish out the year, infinitely increasing her chances of getting a job elsewhere. But they didn't just fire her; they ended her career. They didn't have to do that.
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I agree they should have let her finish out the year. But yeah, the whole situation is sticky.
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I agree they should have let her finish out the year. But yeah, the whole situation is sticky.
She can kiss any chance of landing another teaching gig goodbye.
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Looks like she's gone and blown it.
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the whole situation is sticky.
You bet it is. :eyebrows:
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I thought she would have had a better grip on the situation.
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I agree they should have let her finish out the year. But yeah, the whole situation is sticky.
She can kiss any chance of landing another teaching gig goodbye.
Personally, I think her chances of scoring a private tuition career are looking particularly rosy! :biggrin:
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I thought she would have had a better grip on the situation.
From what I've seen, her grip wasn't the problem...
Question! Who originally discovered that she was in porn? Was it one of the student's fathers? Someone on the school board?
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I believe I read that it had long been rumored among the students, but the faculty never believed it. I think they might have tried to confirm it, but the school's filters blocked them. I know she was finally busted when some of her coworkers produced videos for the school board.
Sadly, we live in a society where you can fire a former porno chick for moral turpitude, but snitches are hands off. Setting a poor example, IMO.
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Sadly, we live in a society where you can fire a former porno chick for moral turpitude, and snatches are hands off. Setting a poor example, IMO.
FTFY
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Scandal in my hometown :lol
I'm torn on this
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No need to say much, other than that I hate moralists. Because of someone's past moralists want to deny people a normal job? Now THAT is immoral IMO. I really dislike people who think they are better than other people based on morals that have nothing to do with common sense.