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Title: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: countoftuscany42 on April 15, 2012, 07:43:03 PM
Possibly going to this show since I will be in Philly that weekend.
Does anyone know if it is an all ages venue?  I looked it up and saw that it's at a casino, and some of their facilities are 21+, yet they don't specify regarding concerts.  Hope someone knows, thanks
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 16, 2012, 12:59:32 PM
Yeah whats going on with this? Is this at a casino?

Anyone down for some poker before the concert? lol jk
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Mebert78 on April 16, 2012, 01:14:51 PM
Hmm, might have to go to this one too.  Maybe get a room on Friday with a friend and spend Friday night and Saturday losing money.  Make a whole weekend of it.

Three DT shows in 4 nights.  Sounds good!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on April 16, 2012, 02:45:04 PM
I'll more than likely be going to this, and will likely at least blow some money at the craps tables beforehand.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 17, 2012, 08:30:01 AM
any idea when the tickets go on sale?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on April 19, 2012, 07:21:36 AM
This is twenty minutes from the house.  Awaiting ticket sale date too.  If I find out, I'll post.  As for venue, I heard that they are waiting to see how the Lynyrd Skynyrd gig goes on the race track to make a decision.  Think it would suck outside.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on April 19, 2012, 10:15:21 PM
I'll definitely be attending this gig wherever it's at. It might actually be kind of cool to see DT outside.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on April 21, 2012, 09:27:16 AM
Not a fan of traveling into Chester, but I'll be there
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on April 21, 2012, 02:38:30 PM
Same, but right in.  Right out.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 25, 2012, 01:48:39 PM
Still don't see any ticket info on ticketmaster or anything
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 25, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Still don't see any ticket info on ticketmaster or anything

Looks like all the other dates are there accept ours. Anybody know how to get the tickets?

    I didn't even see any info on the Casino's website.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 26, 2012, 08:50:50 AM
I'm sure it will be up on ticketmaster soon. I saw this but prob not true. Same thing happened with the last concert at Merriam Theater too.

https://www.allgoodseats.com/ResultsTicket.php?evtid=1869671
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Metrovarium on April 27, 2012, 10:03:22 AM
I live only around 20 minutes away, so I definitely plan to go. Though I'll have to find out if it really is a 21-only venue, as I don't want to purchase tickets only to not be let in.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: ResultsMayVary on April 27, 2012, 10:12:58 AM
I'm sure it will be up on ticketmaster soon. I saw this but prob not true. Same thing happened with the last concert at Merriam Theater too.

https://www.allgoodseats.com/ResultsTicket.php?evtid=1869671
The Columbus, OH date still isn't listed online yet.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on April 30, 2012, 11:16:49 PM
so its finally on ticketmaster, tickets on sale this friday.  the only thing i dont really understand is the layout of the seats...
this is the layout: https://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/tmimages/venue/maps/phi/42806s_a.gif
it seems as if close to the stage are seats, and ga standing is in the back? seems odd to me, anyone familiar with the venue?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: As I Am on May 01, 2012, 07:57:07 AM
Is this inside or outside?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on May 01, 2012, 07:58:28 AM
it seems outside, but it doesnt specifically say...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 01, 2012, 08:41:16 AM
so its finally on ticketmaster, tickets on sale this friday.  the only thing i dont really understand is the layout of the seats...
this is the layout: https://media.ticketmaster.com/tm/en-us/tmimages/venue/maps/phi/42806s_a.gif
it seems as if close to the stage are seats, and ga standing is in the back? seems odd to me, anyone familiar with the venue?

Thanks for the info. And yeah thats a really odd seating chart right there. I got a feeling its going to be outside

PRESALE is thursday so if anyone has the promo, let us know!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 01, 2012, 09:49:27 AM
My buddy is a Diamond Club member here.  He said that they are setting it up like the Lynyrd Skynyrd concert.  From his description, I'm gathering a mental picture such as the attached (no commenting....not the fulltime job).

Those with other sources; the stage is at the Results Board, with seating aligned.

(http://)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 01, 2012, 09:51:39 AM
So the picture didn't load.  Google Earth it.

39.505957N x 75.205053W
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on May 01, 2012, 10:58:18 AM
Yes, if anyone has the presale password, please do share! I'm almost tempted to spend the $275 I don't have and get a VIP package to avoid all of the stress. (VIP packages for this show go on sale tomorrow at 10AM, btw.)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: As I Am on May 01, 2012, 12:08:46 PM
who the hell booked these places? :tdwn :loser: :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 01, 2012, 12:18:12 PM
who the hell booked these places? :tdwn :loser: :facepalm:

Yeah I wish it was in Center City again like the last show. It is a more convenient location
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
As someone who has to travel either way, I'd MUCH rather it be outside the city.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 01, 2012, 01:49:51 PM
It's nice that its on a Saturday so I can't complain about that!

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on May 02, 2012, 08:13:34 AM
Well, I just bit the bullet and bought a VIP package for this show. It's about time I meet these guys in person. I'll figure out a way to pay for it somehow, lol.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 02, 2012, 10:09:33 AM
Well, I just bit the bullet and bought a VIP package for this show. It's about time I meet these guys in person. I'll figure out a way to pay for it somehow, lol.

hah damn nice! Yeah this is gonna be my 6th time seeing them and I was wondering if I should do that too. But yeah its really expensive
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 02, 2012, 02:08:57 PM
Those VIP packages definitely caught my eye as well, but $275 is just too much at the moment. 

    Someday though...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on May 02, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
so any word on a presale code? would be great since we actually have to get seats..
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 02, 2012, 08:33:53 PM
Heading down at 10am Thursday to pick up tickets.  If I hear of anything, will surely post.  Enjoy the m&g's all.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 03, 2012, 07:54:19 AM
Yeah if anyone knows the pre sale code, feel free to share :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 03, 2012, 10:30:39 AM
Just returned from the venue.  Computers down and put on a call list.  No promo code yet.  Will return when called and post it asap.

As for setup; would appear that the stage will be at the '50 yard line'.  Infield seats on the track, Grandstand is the bleachers, General Admission is the outdoor and partially covered patio.

Side SNAFU note; hope they play loud.  The track is directly beneath the Philly airport flight path.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 03, 2012, 10:40:18 AM
Thanks for the info. I'm gonna try go get "seating" because the General Admission feels kind of far.

https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0200489ED8F6AB37?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 03, 2012, 11:09:51 AM
Probably the best choice.  Grandstand seating is nice and not too far away.  These seats are built into the concrete risers with plenty of elbow room.

Hitting the Diamond Club before the gig for $2 drinks and meal.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 03, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
Probably the best choice.  Grandstand seating is nice and not too far away.  These seats are built into the concrete risers with plenty of elbow room.

Hitting the Diamond Club before the gig for $2 drinks and meal.

I'll probably go with the infield. Its $10 more but w/e :)

I just hope when you pick "best available", they don't give you seats towards the side which is what happened to me last time.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 03, 2012, 12:11:46 PM
Agreed.  One reason I went down there requesting section 204.  Hoping the same while their computer system gets repaired.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 03, 2012, 01:36:15 PM
Agreed.  One reason I went down there requesting section 204.  Hoping the same while their computer system gets repaired.

Good call. I'd do the same if I was near by.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 03, 2012, 03:38:49 PM
Tickets in hand.  They didn't have a promo code.

Section 204, Row A, Seats 19 & 20
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Dr. DTVT on May 03, 2012, 04:06:17 PM
Dream Theater AND Gambling?  I might have to make this my show of choice depending on how the job thing turns out.  Of course if I get one of the jobs in eastern PA I've applied for then its a moot point and I'll be betting DON'T PASS against Nick all night :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 04, 2012, 07:46:35 AM
Tickets in hand.  They didn't have a promo code.

Section 204, Row A, Seats 19 & 20

Nice! Right in the middle
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 04, 2012, 08:45:29 AM
Section 102 ROW PP seats 1-3. Should be a good show!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 04, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
Excellent.  Right in front of Myung.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Cirone328 on May 04, 2012, 05:15:58 PM
Anyone know for sure about age restrictions? dt.net>Tour>Info says its 18+ only for admission. I'd like to take my son for his first concert. What do your tickets say? I'm afraid to call there and be given wrong information and be screwed the night of the show.

Ticketbastard doesn't say anything about age restrictions.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: johncal on May 04, 2012, 06:06:35 PM
I'm in 201. kind of sucks but that's all i could get.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on May 04, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
I was curious as well as my 14 year old wanted to go.  The staff couldn't give me a straight answer when I was there and their main number got me lost in the voicemail jungle.  Try 484-490-1800 and good luck.

I would think its okay since you can access the venue (track) without entering the casino floor.  Able to take the same kid to the Queensryche show at HOB in AC two years ago.  But don't take my word for it.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 04, 2012, 07:06:41 PM
This is going to be a very long wait until the end of July!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on May 05, 2012, 02:41:13 PM
102 MM 16&17  \m/
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 05, 2012, 10:33:22 PM
102 MM 16&17  \m/

Nice  :metal :corn
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on May 19, 2012, 08:01:54 AM
Sec 102, Row BB, seats 4,5


I WIN
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 23, 2012, 10:42:06 AM
Sec 102, Row BB, seats 4,5


I WIN

damn nice. I'm assuming you are doing the Meet and greet?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on May 23, 2012, 07:56:18 PM
Believe it or not, no. I missed the presales and whatnot, so about a week or so afterwards i just kinda looked for tickets and those were the first ones that came up. Unless the M&G got WAY cheaper, those were only 60something bucks a ticket.

Never doing a presale again
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 24, 2012, 09:43:55 AM
Believe it or not, no. I missed the presales and whatnot, so about a week or so afterwards i just kinda looked for tickets and those were the first ones that came up. Unless the M&G got WAY cheaper, those were only 60something bucks a ticket.

Never doing a presale again

Yeah that always happens... I always get the ticket the day they are on sale but then when I look back at the site a couple weeks after, there are better seats available. I wish you can just select your seats... Oh well... Should be a great show!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on May 24, 2012, 11:42:10 AM
I'm just gonna check once or twice a week and hope I can do the same, first 10 rows in 102 or 103 and I'll likely buy.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Lunchbox on May 25, 2012, 06:52:15 AM
Does anybody have any info on the age restrictions? I'd really not like to buy tickets to only be turned away because it's 21+
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Scrub206 on May 25, 2012, 10:52:41 AM
I was wondering how long it would take someone to grab the name Lunchbox on these forums... haha
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on May 25, 2012, 05:15:36 PM
Does anybody have any info on the age restrictions? I'd really not like to buy tickets to only be turned away because it's 21+

My tickets say 18+
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Lunchbox on May 26, 2012, 09:00:36 AM
Does anybody have any info on the age restrictions? I'd really not like to buy tickets to only be turned away because it's 21+

My tickets say 18+

thanks a million, gonna go order now.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on June 05, 2012, 11:04:40 AM
Am I the only one who bought a VIP package for this show?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on June 05, 2012, 01:17:57 PM
probably. they're really expensive. 250 a piece? I can't really afford that.

I mean, I know Symphony X isn't a huge band, but I paid 70 bucks for a M&G with them...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 05, 2012, 02:56:45 PM
Yeah its too expensive for me. I'm sure it would be a memorable experience though
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Rkeister on June 06, 2012, 07:33:51 AM
I bought two VIP tickets the minute they went on sale :) stood in e-line clicking refresh haha.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on June 06, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
I bought two VIP tickets the minute they went on sale :) stood in e-line clicking refresh haha.

Well at least I know that one person on this forum is doing the VIP treatment! Do you have any idea when we are going to find out exactly where our seats are?

And just between me and everybody else in this thread, I got into a little bit of, er, what do they call that...."credit card debt" after purchasing my ticket....
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Rkeister on June 07, 2012, 08:15:55 AM
I did the Merriam in october, the way it worked was they gave us an email with the details what time to go. When we walked in they handed us an envelope with the tickets. I got third row last time (still practically at the stage.) and there were rumors that earliest purchase gets best seats. That's why i stood in e-line this time clicking refresh. This way I will know first hand if it matters or not. Don't worry about the credit card debt. now thanks to them coming around twice this year, releasing an album, and all the other memorabilia, i've spent about $2,000 on them in the last 10 months. It's worth it.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on June 07, 2012, 11:49:19 AM
Yep, Dream Theater is the only band/artist/musician who I would spend that much money on.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: As I Am on June 19, 2012, 09:20:09 AM
Is this a completely outdoor venue (no covering)?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on June 19, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
There is a small cover for the patio behind the bleacher seats.  Parking garage overlooks the set up, but security moved people out at the Skynyrd gig.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Rkeister on June 19, 2012, 06:23:04 PM
just a heads up for those of you younger fans, i know the original show said 18+ ages, VIP nation just sent me an email saying they found out show is 21+ and they're offering refunds to those under. Sorry for anyone who is gonna miss this due to age.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on June 19, 2012, 08:06:21 PM
What? bullshit! is ticketmaster going to refund too? cause my dad and i bought tickets and we'd better get our money if we didnt get to go..
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on June 19, 2012, 09:57:11 PM
i found on the harrah's website that all concert-goers must be 21, but then why would ticketmasters tickets be printed with 18+? seems fishy to me..
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on June 20, 2012, 11:52:53 AM
UPDATE:

"Dear Dream Theater Chester VIP fan,
 
Harrah’s Chester Downs has assured us that there is no age restriction and that the Dream Theater show on July 21, 2012 is an all ages event. You no longer need to worry about refunds, as all guests will be able to attend, regardless of age.
 
No further action is needed on your part and all of your tickets are in good standing and still valid.
 
Thank you and we apologize for the confusion"

So there you go kiddies, no need to worry. :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: As I Am on June 20, 2012, 01:28:39 PM
I'd like to go to this show (already going the week before to the PNC Arts Center), but I am really concerned about the facility. It sounds like it's all outdoors and actually on the race track? WTF? Why would they play there? A much better venue would have been the Sands Bethlehem Event Center (saw the Queen Extravaganza there last week and it was a great place...not to mention an AWESOME concert)!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on June 20, 2012, 07:45:29 PM
UPDATE:

"Dear Dream Theater Chester VIP fan,
 
Harrah’s Chester Downs has assured us that there is no age restriction and that the Dream Theater show on July 21, 2012 is an all ages event. You no longer need to worry about refunds, as all guests will be able to attend, regardless of age.
 
No further action is needed on your part and all of your tickets are in good standing and still valid.
 
Thank you and we apologize for the confusion"

So there you go kiddies, no need to worry. :)

whew, good to know. strange that this was even brought up though..i mean on the harrahs website it does say all concertgoers must be 21, but the tickets say 18, now theres no age limit? screwy system...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on June 22, 2012, 12:07:58 PM
Just out of curiosity, is anyone (without a ticket) going to listen to the show from their boat on the Delaware River?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 30, 2012, 08:02:27 AM
On facebook I got a notification saying "Bandsintown canceled the event Dream Theater @ Harrahs Philadelphia Casino & Racetrack- Chester PA"

Should we be worried?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on June 30, 2012, 08:37:41 AM
Not officially announced by DT; not legit
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: FrostbiteZ on June 30, 2012, 09:17:13 AM
crap
acording to ticketmaster its cancelled  :'(
https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0200489ED8F6AB37

edit: moved to Caesars Atlantic City. Still crap it screws up my travel arangement
 
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
crap
acording to ticketmaster its cancelled  :'(
https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0200489ED8F6AB37

On the other hand one more show appeared. It's in Atlantic City.

https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/020048DCCD4D9D6B?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on June 30, 2012, 09:28:52 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2012, 09:30:34 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Is Atlantic City far from Philly? (pardon my ignorance, but I only became aware of AC's existence watching a HIMYM episode a few months ago  :lol :lol )
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on June 30, 2012, 09:31:23 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Is Atlantic City far from Philly? (pardon my ignorance, but I only became aware of AC's existence watching a HIMYM episode a few months ago  :lol :lol )

It's about an hour away.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 30, 2012, 09:56:55 AM
Well fuck...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DreamerTV on June 30, 2012, 10:02:28 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Low tickets sales?. Seems like they're not having a good promotion for this tour.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2012, 10:04:53 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Low tickets sales?. Seems like they're not having a good promotion for this tour.

If it's the ticket sales are not going well, why add a new date 20 days before the show?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DreamerTV on June 30, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Low tickets sales?. Seems like they're not having a good promotion for this tour.

If it's the ticket sales are not going well, why add a new date 20 days before the show?

Since the new gig is just an hour away from the Philly one it seems like they're replacing it more than adding a new one.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Nick on June 30, 2012, 11:17:43 AM
The fuck? It's raging hard time for you Philly goers, that blows.

Wonder what would cause this to cancel?

Low tickets sales?. Seems like they're not having a good promotion for this tour.

If it's the ticket sales are not going well, why add a new date 20 days before the show?

In a city that alienates a good number of people that could have made Philly but not A.C.

My guess is that it had to be a problem with the venue. With the age thing we already saw communication was an issue, so I'm guessing they canned it and the band couldn't find anything available in Philly.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: wasteland on June 30, 2012, 12:01:22 PM


In a city that alienates a good number of people that could have made Philly but not A.C.

My guess is that it had to be a problem with the venue. With the age thing we already saw communication was an issue, so I'm guessing they canned it and the band couldn't find anything available in Philly.

That's quite logical, I think things may have have developed this way. So, are you folding or will you follow them to A.C.?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on June 30, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
This is fucking bullshit. I will see them from second row no matter what  >:(
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: FrostbiteZ on June 30, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
What really pisses me off is that Ticketmaster.com havent informed me that the gig got cancelled/moved

Taken from Ticketmaster help section
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You bought tickets, but stuff happens. Don't worry, we're here to help.

Canceled or Rescheduled Events
In either case, we'll alert you ASAP.

Canceled Events - If your event was canceled, in most cases you won't need to do a thing: we'll inform you of the cancellation and refund the amount you paid for your tickets, including all fees (except UPS and retail pickup, and fees on certain Major League Baseball purchases) on the same payment method used for purchase. If you bought your tickets at a retail outlet, please return them at the same location.

Rescheduled Events - If your event was rescheduled, we'll contact you with the new date and time ASAP. Can't make it? The decision to issue refunds for rescheduled/postponed events is up to the individual artist, team, venue, or promoter, but we'll do everything we can to help! Just click here to contact us.

According to the supporter that I spoke to they
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Ticketmaster does not send out updater emails. Those come from the venue.
how is the venue supposed to update me when they dont have my mail and does it not in TM's help that they will contact me ASAP?

I also spoke to someone from Harrahs regarding a question to my seating and she wasnt aware that the gig had been moved, but she would find out and asked me to call her later
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 30, 2012, 03:29:53 PM
Yeah I hope we get the money back. I haven't been informed about anything yet.

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on June 30, 2012, 04:19:26 PM
Agree with Frostbite.

Unsure if they are transferable at this point.

Harrah's knows nothing and wasn't helpful.  Caesar's customer service rep will call back with an answer.  Worse case is to drive back to Harrah's get the refund and order online.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Rkeister on June 30, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
i called VIP nation, they said they have no notifications of a cancellation and that it should still be fine.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on June 30, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
ticketmaster website says cancelled, and instead shows an atlantic city venue
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on June 30, 2012, 08:49:10 PM
I sent an email to ticketmaster.

If I can't keep my second row seats I'll probably say fuck it...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on June 30, 2012, 11:33:59 PM
Well this is fucking bullshit. I bought VIP Meet and Greet tickets for this, and I've yet to receive any notification in my email from VIP Nation.

One thing that could possibly explain the cancellation is the fact that there is an Aerosmith concert in Philly at the Wells Fargo Center on the same night.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on July 01, 2012, 07:39:56 AM
I'm still going.  Twenty minutes from my shore house or twenty minutes from Chester makes no difference to me.

Not sure if that's the reason, but speculation is running wild.  This past Friday, Maiden played Camden and Coldplay played Philly.  Even if the Phillies played home, they could have done this.

Something else to speculate on: Ticketmaster's site has all of the seated section listed as 'Sold Out'.  Gonna go out on a limb and guess that they are transplanting the Chester ticket holders in these seats.

Twenty days to figure this out.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Cirone328 on July 01, 2012, 07:44:25 AM
Problem solved! We all stay at Joep's house at either location for a short ride to the show!! :metal
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Rkeister on July 01, 2012, 07:52:48 AM
yeah, i got the VIP tickets and I don't care either way which venue it is. I just want to be told so I can make the changes i need to get my package revised.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 01, 2012, 07:58:55 AM
yeah, i got the VIP tickets and I don't care either way which venue it is. I just want to be told so I can make the changes i need to get my package revised.

Exactly. They better get on this shit, stat.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 01, 2012, 08:07:26 AM
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Hello Will,

Thank you very much for reaching out to us. We're very about the event cancellation. I've reviewed the information available for Dream Theater and it appears that Caesars will be be handling the exchanges for the event, they will be offering comparable seating. If you'd prefer, we can offer a refund for the purchase price of your tickets but they must be mailed back to us. If you'd like to proceed with a refund just reply to this email with the last four digits for the credit card used for the purchase and we'll send over the mail back information.

Didn't say if I just have to bring the old tickets to the new venue or what, but good that I'll be getting comparable seating
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: countoftuscany42 on July 01, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
This is really lame >:(
im seeing the SF show, but was gonna see the chester show cause im in philly for college orientation.  Dont really want to deal with going to atlantic city, but if they can get us good seats maybe we'll do it..
but besides, if age was the issue at chester, who's to say ill even be able to go to AC? (18..)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 01, 2012, 10:44:52 AM
If they can just transfer the tix to the AC show, then thats not TOO bad because I was really excited for my seats.  I'll be in AC the night before so I'll just stay another day haha
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Joep on July 01, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
Cirone, the party is always better down the shore.  And besides, little more time away from the wife to play ain't all that bad.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: Cirone328 on July 01, 2012, 01:09:50 PM
Cirone, the party is always better down the shore.  And besides, little more time away from the wife to play ain't all that bad.

I agree!!! I'm kind of in the middle. 45 mins from AC, 25 mins from Chester.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 01, 2012, 01:33:20 PM
They better damn well make some sort of official statement about this soon. I want to be sure beyond a shadow of doubt that my VIP ticket is going to be honored for this event before I go booking a room at Caesars.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 01, 2012, 02:23:14 PM
They better damn well make some sort of official statement about this soon. I want to be sure beyond a shadow of doubt that my VIP ticket is going to be honored for this event before I go booking a room at Caesars.
Would be nice to get some official statement.

The person I spoke to on TM's Live chat said that tickets will be honored. As for my question regarding seating they told to contact Harrah's and here is what Harrah's said
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you will need to contact Ticketmaster's customer service team. Unfortunately, we do not have information regarding seating for tickets sold by Ticketmaster. We apologize for any inconvenience this information may cause
So I'm back at square one :-[

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 01, 2012, 03:43:53 PM
If you read what I posted you'd see that exchanges are being handled by Caesars, not harrahs
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 02, 2012, 03:27:45 AM
If you read what I posted you'd see that exchanges are being handled by Caesars, not harrahs
The TM supporter I first talked to referred me to Harrah's + plus gave me the number to Harrah's.

After I got an answer from Harrah's/Caesars. I then wrote back to TM and got this answer in return
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Sorry for the inconvenience!

Since the venue has changed to Caesars Atlantic City we need to assist you with either a refund or an exchange for seats at Caesars Atlantic City. The ticket that you have are no being valid for the new venue. We will offer you the comparable seats at Caesars Atlantic City.

I later got this repley from TM
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Thanks for your response.

The tickets to DREAM THEATER at CAESARS ATLANTIC CITY aren’t on sale yet.

At this time we can cancel your order #15-43859/PHI and issue a full refund for the cancelled event at Harrah's Philadelphia Casino & Racetrack. It usually takes 3-10 days to receive the refund back to your card.

Once the tickets are available to purchase for DREAM THEATER at CAESARS ATLANTIC CITY you can contact us and we can help you purchase comparable seats.

We’re extra careful with our fans’ transactions, which is why we need to confirm a couple things before we issue a refund for order #15-43859/PHI!

The important thing for me is that I can get a comparable seat. The change of venue doesn't really matter to me, although my hotel expenses just got a bit higher
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 02, 2012, 10:25:49 AM
STILL no official announcement from the band or VIP Nation?! This is getting ridiculous. People spent their hard earned money to go to this show, and they quietly change the venue overnight make NO announcement about it??? I guarantee you there are still many people who bought tickets for the Chester show and have no idea about the venue change.

This whole clusterfuck doesn't make any sense to me. There are MANY other venues in the Philly area where they could have held this. The Keswick Theater, The Tower Theater, The Merriam Theater.... But NO, let's move the whole fucking show to another STATE so people are forced to spend more money. And if ticket sales where the problem, then why do they think that they'll somehow be better in Atlantic City?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Harrah’s Chester Downs - Chester, PA
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 02, 2012, 10:31:46 AM
STILL no official announcement from the band or VIP Nation?! This is getting ridiculous. People spent their hard earned money to go to this show, and they quietly change the venue overnight make NO announcement about it??? I guarantee you there are still many people who bought tickets for the Chester show and have no idea about the venue change.

This whole clusterfuck doesn't make any sense to me. There are MANY other venues in the Philly area where they could have held this. The Keswick Theater, The Tower Theater, The Merriam Theater.... But NO, let's move the whole fucking show to another STATE so people are forced to spend more money. And if ticket sales where the problem, then why do they think that they'll somehow be better in Atlantic City?

You know, I wondered this too when they announced the tour dates. Of all the places in Philly to go, they pick Harrah's? Hell, even the Electric Factory would be better... I'm wondering if all the other places were booked or something
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 02, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Frankly I'm really surprised DT haven't made a peep about this.

I know I'm opening a can of worms here, but love him or hate him MP would have probably let people know this was coming and what to do about it before or as it was happening. I'm sure DT are now letting management handle this kind of thing, but that being said management is fucking up big time on this one by not being much more pro-active with info.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 02, 2012, 10:36:48 AM
I PM'd the closest person to the band I can think of and hopefully we might get at least an answer or two :/

also I'm gonna be twitterbombing JP/JR.

If you'd like to join, please include the hashtag #noDTinPhilly
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 02, 2012, 10:43:28 AM
I tweeted JR yesterday. I'll have to tweet JP today. JLB is on twitter, too.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 02, 2012, 10:49:37 AM
@Jcrudess @jpetrucci @Piratecjs please give official word on venue change from PHL to AC #noDTinPhilly #DreamTheater

SPAM IT
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 02, 2012, 10:58:48 AM
Just saw this in my e-mail



Attention ticket holder!

We just learned that your upcoming event has a new venue and a new time:

Dream Theatre with Special Guest Crimson Project
Harrah’s Philadelphia Casino & Racetrack New Venue: Ceasars Atlantic City
Saturday, July 21st with doors opening at 6:30PM
New time: 7:30PM!


Your original tickets will not be valid for entry into the Ceasars Atlantic City event. New tickets with comparable seating will be waiting for you at the Ceasars Atlantic City Box Office.

What do you need to do?

To get your new tickets, you must present your original Harrah’s Philadelphia Casino & Racetrack tickets at the Ceasars Atlantic City Box Office. Ceasars Atlantic City indoor arena box office is located at in front of the Circus Maximus Theater located at Caesars Atlantic City 2100 Pacific Avenue in Atlantic City, NJ 08401. You can pick them up on the day of the event starting at 4PM. You’ll need the following items to claim your tickets; please don’t leave home without them!

• Your picture ID
• Your Ticketmaster order number.
• The credit card used to purchase the tickets

Need a refund? We'll refund your order, including fees (except UPS and InStore Pick Up, if applicable).


Refunds
• If your method of delivery was TicketFast, Paperless, or Will Call tickets, just reply to this email by July 19th by 5PM include the last four digits of the credit card used for purchase, the order number, and the name on the account, and we'll take care of it for you!


• If you got your tickets by mail or UPS, please mail them to the following address along with the name and address on the account, Ticketmaster order number, and daytime telephone number:

Ticketmaster
Attention:  Fan Support
Dream Theatre /PHI Refund
1000 Corporate Landing
Charleston, WV 25311

Please make sure we receive your tickets by July 19th by 5PM. We will refund your order immediately, but please note that it can take about 7 – 10 business days to post to your account.

Questions? Just hit reply and ask us or visit Ticketmaster.com!

Thanks for being a fan!

Ticketmaster Fan Support
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 02, 2012, 11:01:36 AM
Good. Although what they mean by 'comparable' remains to be seen...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 02, 2012, 11:40:53 AM
Good. Although what they mean by 'comparable' remains to be seen...

Very true. Makes things easier for me actually because Ill be in AC the night before lol.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 02, 2012, 12:12:27 PM
I purchased my ticket though VIP Nation and I've yet to receive any notifications from them. I think I'll call them right now. This whole thing is such utter horse shit.

EDIT: Just got off the phone with VIP Nation. Apparently they're waiting on information from the band's management before they sound out an email with instructions. Isn't this something that DT should have gotten on, um, like, RIGHT AWAY???
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 02, 2012, 01:28:28 PM
I purchased my ticket though VIP Nation and I've yet to receive any notifications from them. I think I'll call them right now. This whole thing is such utter horse shit.

EDIT: Just got off the phone with VIP Nation. Apparently they're waiting on information from the band's management before they sound out an email with instructions. Isn't this something that DT should have gotten on, um, like, RIGHT AWAY???

Yeah they def. should have.

I'm sure it will most likely be the same deal as the ticketmaster.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 02, 2012, 04:46:25 PM
i emailed VIPnation this morning expressing my concern and got no response. However, After work I went online and my order was changed to Atlantic City. That was nice, it would've been a great idea to contact me though. I called and confirmed everything was ok.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 02, 2012, 07:01:15 PM
Its weird that they didn't have this concert at Merriam Theater or the Tower Theater. Its usually a sellout crowd there but AC should be cool
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 02, 2012, 07:10:38 PM
Its weird that they didn't have this concert at Merriam Theater or the Tower Theater. Its usually a sellout crowd there but AC should be cool

I still think that it has something to do with Aerosmith being at the Wells Fargo on the same night. I know that one might not think that the two bands have similar markets, but Aerosmith just so happens to be one of my all-time favorite hard rock bands, and I was planning to check out their show until I found out it was on the same night as DT, so there you go.

Rkesiter, thanks for the heads up! I checked my VIP Nation account, and my ticket does indeed say Caesars.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 04, 2012, 09:54:25 AM
Excuse the double post, but wow.... STILL no official word from the band or VIP Nation about this. Does the BAND even know that the venue has changed?! This really isn't fair to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking and the internet. I guarantee you that there are still tons of people who bought tickets for this show who have NO idea about this.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 04, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
Funny because vipnation responded to my email on Monday that an official notice would be emailed out Tuesday. They lied.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 04, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
Excuse the double post, but wow.... STILL no official word from the band or VIP Nation about this. Does the BAND even know that the venue has changed?! This really isn't fair to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking and the internet. I guarantee you that there are still tons of people who bought tickets for this show who have NO idea about this.

So much this
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 04, 2012, 09:33:41 PM
The whole series of events surrounding this show is just one giant clusterfuck:

1.) Dream Theater will be closing out the second leg of their North American tour at a race track in Chester. (Um, ok....)

2.) Oh, btw, the show is ages 21 and up. So if you're younger, you're shit out of luck.

3.) Oooops, my bad, the kiddies can still come! :)

4.) Actually, we're moving this bitch to a whole other state at a different Casino. (Shhhhh, it's a secret!)

5.) ???
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 04, 2012, 09:41:44 PM
You guys should have twitterbombed them with me
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 05, 2012, 09:22:43 AM
not that I'm going to this show but I understand the issues

I have sent e-mails to both Roadrunner records and the band's management

publicity@roadrunnerrecords.com

TeresaGuy@theagencygroup.com

inquiring who should be responsible for notify the fans and why the band hasn't done so yet
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2012, 10:11:24 AM
Yeah this is getting redonkulous.

Some of us find out about these things because we are on facebook/forums etc but there are many fans that have made plans but still do not know that the venue changed.

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 05, 2012, 10:13:28 AM
I want John Petrucci's phone number.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 05, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Did you guys hear, the concert was moved again. They are now opening for aerosmith.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 05, 2012, 02:21:16 PM
Did you guys hear, the concert was moved again. They are now opening for aerosmith.
Not funny
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: RaiseTheKnife on July 05, 2012, 02:54:19 PM
Never a good sign when the notice of venue change spells the band's name wrong!!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2012, 03:13:01 PM
Did you guys hear, the concert was moved again. They are now opening for aerosmith.


 :lol :lol That really wasn't funny man. I actually believed you for a second
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2012, 03:13:31 PM
Never a good sign when the notice of venue change spells the band's name wrong!!

Yeah seriously... Who is Dream Theatre?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wasteland on July 05, 2012, 03:28:38 PM
Never a good sign when the notice of venue change spells the band's name wrong!!

Yeah seriously... Who is Dream Theatre?

They're pretty obscure, but I am pretty sure they released a self titled EP some time ago...

(https://kastatic.com/i2/artists/29849765.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 05, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
FYI, I've been in contact with JP, the tour manager and the band's manager, and I've been told that they are working to resolve the issue.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 05, 2012, 07:01:54 PM
FYI, I've been in contact with JP, the tour manager and the band's manager, and I've been told that they are working to resolve the issue.

thanks a lot Scotty :)

This is why we <3 you
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 05, 2012, 07:12:55 PM
FYI, I've been in contact with JP, the tour manager and the band's manager, and I've been told that they are working to resolve the issue.

Please do keep us updated, good sir! Any word on why this all happened in the first place?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 05, 2012, 07:45:57 PM
So, change of venue (seasons) change of watering hole.  Where we meeting up for a couple drinks??
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 05, 2012, 09:14:38 PM
Now, I've never been to an AC casino before.. but don't most of them have bars?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 05, 2012, 09:55:31 PM
Now, I've never been to an AC casino before.. but don't most of them have bars?

Yeah I went to the Borgata once and you can just go get a beer or ask a server thats walking around etc.

If you were gambling, the drinks were free but you obviously gotta tip the server.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 06, 2012, 07:04:24 AM
Well I was figuring Caesar's would have one so if anyone wanted to meet up that's a good a place as any :P
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 06, 2012, 07:07:15 AM
Caesar's has potentially dozens of places, thus the purpose for the post.

Harrah's doesn't discriminate; they charge you at the bar or slot machines.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 06, 2012, 08:30:58 AM
Well I was figuring Caesar's would have one so if anyone wanted to meet up that's a good a place as any :P

Yeah I'll most likely be at Caesar's during the day with a couple friends so if I see you, I'll say hi. In the e-mail I received from Ticketmaster, it said that we can get the new tickets from the Box Office at 4 PM as well.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 10:32:38 AM
So, about that official announcement from the band.....  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 06, 2012, 11:08:05 AM
So, about that official announcement from the band.....  :facepalm:

As Scotty had said the band is working with the managers to resolve

https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0200489ED8F6AB37?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200

Ticketmaster is the one really dropping the ball on this the Chester show is listed as cancelled , so anyone with a ticket should have received notification from Ticketmaster directly (the bands don't control this, which is why some bands refuse to use ticketmaster) The A/C Date is listed but says tickets are not currently on sale

Until ticketmaster can straighten out their shit, people need to hang tight. I understand some people are travleing to the show and need to make travel arrangements but at this point its not taking place in Chester so use your head and plan on traveling to A/C or request a refund

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 06, 2012, 11:20:13 AM
i think you guys gotta understand that this isn't really in the band's hands. im sure they are aware, and their people are figuring it out
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
When someone has hundreds of dollars invested in your product, you better get on the ball and sort your shit out ASAP. This show is 15 days away for crying out loud!!!! I need to know if I'm booking a hotel or not, like, within the next week.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 06, 2012, 11:59:22 AM
When someone has hundreds of dollars invested in your product, you better get on the ball and sort your shit out ASAP. This show is 15 days away for crying out loud!!!! I need to know if I'm booking a hotel or not, like, within the next week.

what is there to figure out   TICKETMASTER HAS THE SHOW IN CHESTER LISTED AS CANCELLED its not like they are going to re-instate it

Because the band hasn't formally announced the change of venue you can't move ahead with your plans ?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 06, 2012, 01:00:24 PM
When someone has hundreds of dollars invested in your product, you better get on the ball and sort your shit out ASAP. This show is 15 days away for crying out loud!!!! I need to know if I'm booking a hotel or not, like, within the next week.

once again, they are musicians not tour bookers/promoters. its not john petrucci's fault he hasnt tweeted something about it. this is the venue's/ticketmasters fault if anything


so this:

what is there to figure out   TICKETMASTER HAS THE SHOW IN CHESTER LISTED AS CANCELLED its not like they are going to re-instate it

Because the band hasn't formally announced the change of venue you can't move ahead with your plans ?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 01:29:49 PM
Again, no matter how you try to justify it, the fact that there hasn't been an official announcement yet is NOT FAIR to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking/the internet as we are (yes, they exist.)

Quite frankly, I'm a little worried about the entire date being cancelled, and I don't want to go spending $500 on a hotel room for one night until I find out exactly just what in the hell is going on with this show.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 06, 2012, 01:32:45 PM
Again, no matter how you try to justify it, the fact that there hasn't been an official announcement yet is NOT FAIR to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking/the internet as we are (yes, they exist.)


So the band or their management are supposed to call each individual whom bought a ticket?
I understand your point about people who don't check the forums/internet, but just how would you expect them to find out a show has been cancelled or moved?

Like I mentioned its up to TICKETMASTER to notify people the show has been moved via e-mail and or snail mail


Just out of curiousity how far are you traveling for the show that you need a hotel for the night   Philly to AC is about 70 miles
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 01:57:00 PM
Again, no matter how you try to justify it, the fact that there hasn't been an official announcement yet is NOT FAIR to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking/the internet as we are (yes, they exist.)


So the band or their management are supposed to call each individual whom bought a ticket?
I understand your point about people who don't check the forums/internet, but just how would you expect them to find out a show has been cancelled or moved?

Like I mentioned its up to TICKETMASTER to notify people the show has been moved via e-mail and or snail mail


Just out of curiousity how far are you traveling for the show that you need a hotel for the night   Philly to AC is about 70 miles

Well, the Chester show would have taken me about two hours to get to. Atlantic City will take me at least 3 and a half. (I live in Bumblefuck.)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 06, 2012, 03:09:58 PM
My only gripe, really, is teh short time frame from now to the show. Two weeks really is only a short time... concert will be here before we know it. and how many people will show up at Harrah's only to find out there it's not happening?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 04:11:25 PM
My only gripe, really, is teh short time frame from now to the show. Two weeks really is only a short time... concert will be here before we know it. and how many people will show up at Harrah's only to find out there it's not happening?

This.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 06, 2012, 06:06:48 PM
Again, no matter how you try to justify it, the fact that there hasn't been an official announcement yet is NOT FAIR to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking/the internet as we are (yes, they exist.)

Quite frankly, I'm a little worried about the entire date being cancelled, and I don't want to go spending $500 on a hotel room for one night until I find out exactly just what in the hell is going on with this show.

The show is officially in AC so I would just make your arrangements but I get your point that its weird that no announcement has been made.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 06, 2012, 06:10:00 PM
Again, no matter how you try to justify it, the fact that there hasn't been an official announcement yet is NOT FAIR to all of the people who don't go on forums and aren't as locked in to social networking/the internet as we are (yes, they exist.)

Quite frankly, I'm a little worried about the entire date being cancelled, and I don't want to go spending $500 on a hotel room for one night until I find out exactly just what in the hell is going on with this show.

The show is officially in AC so I would just make your arrangements but I get your point that its weird that no announcement has been made.
Maybe the promoters are getting all their ducks in a row before the announcement. Not to mention Scotty has already said JP and the band (plus their management) are working on it. There may be more to this than a simple venue change, but we don't know.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (Formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 06, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Well, I'm booked at Caesars for the night now, so fuck it.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 09, 2012, 08:10:21 AM
DT.net the official web page has Atlantic city listed for the date

https://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: As I Am on July 09, 2012, 09:20:59 AM
I'm thinking about going to the Caeser's show now, but there's no way to find tickets! :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 09, 2012, 09:29:05 AM
DT.net the official web page has Atlantic city listed for the date

https://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates

Yep, I caught that the other day. That's progress I guess, but still no official announcement on the front page about it, or any emails from VIP Nation. 12 days....
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 09, 2012, 09:57:05 AM
DT.net the official web page has Atlantic city listed for the date

https://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates

Yep, I caught that the other day. That's progress I guess, but still no official announcement on the front page about it, or any emails from VIP Nation. 12 days....


Ticketmaster has the PA show listed as cancelled and the date changed for AC listed  but no tickets are available

Live nation as well  (VIP NATION)

my guess is they are trying to Accommodate the tickets already sold to a comparable ticket since the venues had different seating plans before sending out the e-mails than again the way ticketmaster and livenation are run who knows

Can't put the blame on the band though they have no control over these sites and how these sites do their business





Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 09, 2012, 10:04:20 AM
DT.net the official web page has Atlantic city listed for the date

https://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates

Yep, I caught that the other day. That's progress I guess, but still no official announcement on the front page about it, or any emails from VIP Nation. 12 days....


Ticketmaster has the PA show listed as cancelled and the date changed for AC listed  but no tickets are available

Live nation as well  (VIP NATION)

my guess is they are trying to Accommodate the tickets already sold to a comparable ticket since the venues had different seating plans before sending out the e-mails than again the way ticketmaster and livenation are run who knows

Can't put the blame on the band though they have no control over these sites and how these sites do their business

I'm not putting the blame on the band at this point. Honestly, I'm just scared that they're going to inevitably cancel this date all-together and just end the tour with the 2 nights in NY. Again, the show is only 12 nights away!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 09, 2012, 11:53:11 AM
DT.net the official web page has Atlantic city listed for the date

https://www.dreamtheater.net/tourdates

Yep, I caught that the other day. That's progress I guess, but still no official announcement on the front page about it, or any emails from VIP Nation. 12 days....


Ticketmaster has the PA show listed as cancelled and the date changed for AC listed  but no tickets are available

Live nation as well  (VIP NATION)

my guess is they are trying to Accommodate the tickets already sold to a comparable ticket since the venues had different seating plans before sending out the e-mails than again the way ticketmaster and livenation are run who knows

Can't put the blame on the band though they have no control over these sites and how these sites do their business

Problem with that is that the comparable ticket exchanges are happening at the venue the day of the event. How will they be able to sell ANY additional tickets with that being the case? They don't know which seats will be taken
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 09, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
if that's the case than I would imagine all tickets sales would  occur at the box office only, day of the show

so you got an e-mail stating this from either Ticketmaster or Live Nation?

Some of the other people in this thread were saying they haven't received any notification
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 09, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
I did receive an e-mail from ticketmaster, which is where I purchased the ticket. I can't speak for those who purchased from VIPNation or the venue itself though.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 09, 2012, 12:11:04 PM
I did receive an e-mail from ticketmaster, which is where I purchased the ticket. I can't speak for those who purchased from VIPNation or the venue itself though.

Same here. We probably got the same e-mail that I posted here a few pages back. Hopefully it will actually be a VERY COMPARABLE seating.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 10, 2012, 12:57:39 PM
I just got off the phone with VIP Nation. Apparently they're still working with Caesars regarding the seating situation. 11 days....
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wkiml on July 10, 2012, 01:13:30 PM
But they confirmed the show in AC

I mean if your 7th row ticket at Chester now becomes a 10th row ticket would that really stop you from going to the show ?

I understand that you are trying to look out for others, but all the sites have the date and place updated , Ticketmaster has already blasted an e-mail to all who purchased tickets. It seems only those who used VIP to purchase are left to find out on their own at this point and im sure an e-mail will be sent , most places have a disclaimer somewhere on their site that as long as they give 48 hours notice they are compliant with the law



Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: As I Am on July 11, 2012, 07:26:17 AM
I called the Caesers box office yesterday and they couldn't tell me squat!  :loser:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 11, 2012, 07:34:23 AM
This whole thing is just a big mess..
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 11, 2012, 01:20:06 PM
VIP Nation emails regarding the day's itinerary for the show are supposed to go out 5 days before the event, so they have 5 days left to sort all of this shit out....

EDIT: IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME.

Dear Dream Theater July 21 fans,
 
We have just been alerted that there has been a venue change for the Chester, PA show on July 21, 2012. It has been moved to Caesar’s in Atlantic City, NJ.
 
Your tickets have been transferred to the new venue and no further action is required on your part.
 
If you cannot make it to this new venue, please email us with your order ID number by Friday, July 13th at 3pm PST and we will give you a full refund.
 
Thank you,
 
YOUR VIP NATION TEAM
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 11, 2012, 02:13:21 PM
yeah about time vipnation sends something out, but i think it's odd because they knew for almost two weeks. i think they're hoping people don't respond in time since they only gave 2 days to cancel for refund.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 11, 2012, 03:59:08 PM
yeah about time vipnation sends something out, but i think it's odd because they knew for almost two weeks. i think they're hoping people don't respond in time since they only gave 2 days to cancel for refund.

That's a bingo.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 11, 2012, 11:53:21 PM
https://www.facebook.com/events/169909469808687/
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 12, 2012, 07:28:51 AM
For anyone who needs a ticket yet, front row of the balcony just popped up.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: As I Am on July 12, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
Thanks Nick. I'm going to wait until Monday to see if there are any cancellations of tickets up front before I buy tickets in the second section.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 12, 2012, 08:41:06 AM
Damn yeah it seems like all the seats upfront are taken

https://www.ticketmaster.com/event/020048DCCD4D9D6B?artistid=744581&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=200
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 12, 2012, 12:49:44 PM
For anyone else who bought VIP for this show, when do we find out where our seats are located?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 12, 2012, 12:52:21 PM
they usually give you the ticket at the show
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 12, 2012, 09:49:48 PM
yes, they give you an envelope with the tickets in it.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 16, 2012, 11:29:57 AM
This Saturday  :metal
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 16, 2012, 12:52:45 PM
yup, I have a feeling this week will get progressively slower as we get closer to Saturday.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 16, 2012, 02:52:19 PM
Just got my Meet & Greet Itinerary in my email! :metal
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 16, 2012, 03:56:56 PM
yup me too.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 17, 2012, 12:54:15 PM
yup, I have a feeling this week will get progressively slower as we get closer to Saturday.

This.

It's going by so slow...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 17, 2012, 01:32:24 PM
After all this madness, I have to say thank god the gig was moved indoors.  Would have been miserable outdoors at Harrah's.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 17, 2012, 01:55:57 PM
me too, the outdoors was a major concern on the original
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 17, 2012, 05:18:42 PM
Honestly, I thought it would be kind of cool to see DT at an outdoor venue. However, this Circus Maximus theater looks really sweet, so I'm not complaining.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 18, 2012, 08:25:04 AM
Saw them once outside and it was a fun experience but this venue looks pretty cool!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 18, 2012, 12:10:53 PM
VIP better give me a good seat. Last time i was third row which was awesome, but this time I am hoping to get a first row. I did buy my package the minute it went on sale. :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 18, 2012, 02:42:11 PM
VIP better give me a good seat. Last time i was third row which was awesome, but this time I am hoping to get a first row. I did buy my package the minute it went on sale. :)

I bought my package the minute it went on sale as well, so maybe we'll have similar seats. I was front row, right in front of John Petrucci when I saw them in Philly last October (without VIP), so there's no going back for me now!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: johncal on July 19, 2012, 05:48:20 PM
Woo-hoo. 2 Days to go. Standing in line at the box office for my new mystery seats is going to suck, but in looking at the new venue no matter where we sit it will be an improvement.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 19, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
I'm really hoping it will be very identical seats. I'll make sure to be at the box office at 4 PM
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 19, 2012, 07:00:03 PM
4pm sharp as well.  Bar afterwards to drown the past few weeks of bs??

And who is interested in this Crimson Projekct stuff?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 20, 2012, 09:26:23 AM
4pm sharp as well.  Bar afterwards to drown the past few weeks of bs??

And who is interested in this Crimson Projekct stuff?

I'm interested. I always enjoyed King Crimson so it should be a good way to open for a DT show.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 20, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
It'll just be cool to say that I saw the great Tony Levin play live.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: johncal on July 20, 2012, 05:31:29 PM
Already saw him with ABW&H
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 20, 2012, 08:21:29 PM
Twenty hours to go.

Tailgating where?  Parking garage to start..............just listen for the sound.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 21, 2012, 01:31:20 PM
I got ripped off with the seat arrangements. Supposed to be in the 16th row but now im more far back in the upper section. Oh well... Should be a good show!
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 21, 2012, 01:41:14 PM
anyone else got a feeling that we will see a repeat of thursday show in huntington?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wasteland on July 21, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
anyone else got a feeling that we will see a repeat of thursday show in huntington?

Yes, but probably with Metropolis as encore.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 21, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
I got ripped off with the seat arrangements. Supposed to be in the 16th row but now im more far back in the upper section. Oh well... Should be a good show!
me 2 >:( just picked up my ticket and my row 12 lower level seat is now a row D upper level. 78$ for a 46$ seat. Nice deal :tdwn
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: countoftuscany42 on July 21, 2012, 07:49:42 PM
I hate everyone who is there right now  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 21, 2012, 11:33:26 PM
Got out of the show a few hours ago. Orgasmic. Usual set list. More tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 21, 2012, 11:34:40 PM
Tease. >:(
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 22, 2012, 08:02:30 AM
Wicked show. As it turns out I essentially got to keep my same seats. Row BB seats 101/102. BUT the people in the row we were in didn't show up, so we scooted towards the center aisle :D

It was really empty. And not only that, almost nobody wanted to stand. WTF was that shit? This is not a classical show dammit. This is a rock concert. Despite my efforts, nobody else wanted to stand up. You could tell the band wasn't excited by US

Oh, and did anyone else see a bunch of older people who looked VERY out of place?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 22, 2012, 08:41:45 AM
awesome show, security was odd. no pictures during crimson projeckt, however soon as dream theater started you were allowed to take videos/pictures. practically got to sit on petrucci's lap for the show  :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 22, 2012, 08:46:44 AM
awesome show, security was odd. no pictures during crimson projeckt, however soon as dream theater started you were allowed to take videos/pictures. practically got to sit on petrucci's lap for the show  :biggrin:

I may have been like, right next to you lol
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DreamerTV on July 22, 2012, 08:47:44 AM
Metropolis pt.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ43CsGtv4s
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 22, 2012, 09:09:36 AM
Wicked show. As it turns out I essentially got to keep my same seats. Row BB seats 101/102. BUT the people in the row we were in didn't show up, so we scooted towards the center aisle :D

It was really empty. And not only that, almost nobody wanted to stand. WTF was that shit? This is not a classical show dammit. This is a rock concert. Despite my efforts, nobody else wanted to stand up. You could tell the band wasn't excited by US

Oh, and did anyone else see a bunch of older people who looked VERY out of place?

It was indeed a wicked show. I sat on the upper level and rose from my seat when the band came on, but quickly got told sit down again by serurity and after that I stayed seated.

Right now I'm sitting in philadelphia airport uploading some vids and quess who I saw passing by in a hurry? Mike Mangini!   :)

This is the Life. Taken from last night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_le4H4s0qTk
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 22, 2012, 09:31:17 AM
i was next to dtfan, im uploading metropolis on youtube as well. there was slight feedback from the pa
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Setlist Scotty on July 22, 2012, 10:30:03 AM
Oh, and did anyone else see a bunch of older people who looked VERY out of place?

Not sure, but I would be surprised if they were family or close friends of the band, considering that it was the east coast.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 22, 2012, 10:32:21 AM
Arrived at 4pm.  Went to the box office for the exchange.  To my surprise, they gave me sixth row in front of Myung.

Tailgating started around 4:30.

Crimson Projeckt was more than expected.  Will see them again.

DT set was awesome as usual.  A few empty seats near me; stood the entire time; met some old timers; met some first concert go'ers; sat next to a dude from Italy; security was present but lax.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 22, 2012, 01:04:41 PM
Great show. The concert did feel like we were watching a movie with everyone sitting down but it was overall an awesome show and the venue was beautiful. We had a lot of empty seats next to us and I went with two buddies that never really heard DT and they had a good time as well  :tup

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: johncal on July 22, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
Wicked show. As it turns out I essentially got to keep my same seats. Row BB seats 101/102. BUT the people in the row we were in didn't show up, so we scooted towards the center aisle :D

It was really empty. And not only that, almost nobody wanted to stand. WTF was that shit? This is not a classical show dammit. This is a rock concert. Despite my efforts, nobody else wanted to stand up. You could tell the band wasn't excited by US

Oh, and did anyone else see a bunch of older people who looked VERY out of place?

OK, so concert goers have to be young people that stand the whole time? B.S. I'm old, I sit, I love DT and my money is just as good. Now maybe you'd be old enough to sit too if you saw The Who, LED Zepelin, Black Sabbath, Yes and guys like that 35-40 years ago like I did. So anyways THAT IS THE SHIT.  BTW, I did notice some "whipper snappers" standing there looking VERY out of place. :biggrin:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 22, 2012, 01:56:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqcUJNedhk8&feature=youtu.be metropolis, a little bit of feedback
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 22, 2012, 02:10:08 PM
Highlights from the Meet and Greet:

I asked JP when his signature guitar picks are coming out (like a nerd), and he told me that they were delayed because he wasn't happy with the design. He then said, "Wait a minute...", stood up, reached into his pocket, and pulled out one of his prototype Dunlop picks and said, "You can keep this." Highlight of my night, for sure.

I asked MM when he was going to release a drum instructional DVD, and he said, "This Fall!"

I told the Pirate that I drove my forklift here all the way from PA, and I got great gas mileage. He said, "What I tell ya?" and gave me a fist pump.  :yarr

Oh, and the concert was pretty good too.  ;)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 22, 2012, 02:15:16 PM
oh yes, the m&g

I asked petrucci what his 1 rep max is, he said he can't do anything risky like that since he lifts alone. I asked about a second solo album, he said there is one in the works.

None of my other conversations were worth noting just the usual, complimenting MM on his drum solo last tour, etc.

I did get a pick from petrucci at the end of the show. :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 22, 2012, 02:27:40 PM
Nice m&g posts.

There was a wrestling match over a JP pick in front of me, section FF.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 22, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
I must say, James was ON FIRE last night. He's in a really good place vocally right now.

He dedicated The Spirit Carries On to the victims in Aurorado, Colorado. I almost got choked up.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 22, 2012, 03:52:05 PM
Frostbite, your TITL video is beautiful - thanks for posting it! :)
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 22, 2012, 11:03:48 PM
Frostbite, your TITL video is beautiful - thanks for posting it! :)
Thx. It was one of those songs I had hoped they would play, when started planing my trip. I had also hoped for In the name of god, but I guess that one will have to wait for some other time. Instead I got to see/hear titl, lnf, tlf, metropolis & paradigm shift + a fantastic JP/JR  solo. It was totally worth all the money  :metal
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 22, 2012, 11:12:52 PM
DT shows are usually worth any hell, hate or discontent you may or may not experience in the time leading up to the show.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 23, 2012, 06:56:47 AM
Wicked show. As it turns out I essentially got to keep my same seats. Row BB seats 101/102. BUT the people in the row we were in didn't show up, so we scooted towards the center aisle :D

It was really empty. And not only that, almost nobody wanted to stand. WTF was that shit? This is not a classical show dammit. This is a rock concert. Despite my efforts, nobody else wanted to stand up. You could tell the band wasn't excited by US

Oh, and did anyone else see a bunch of older people who looked VERY out of place?

OK, so concert goers have to be young people that stand the whole time? B.S. I'm old, I sit, I love DT and my money is just as good. Now maybe you'd be old enough to sit too if you saw The Who, LED Zepelin, Black Sabbath, Yes and guys like that 35-40 years ago like I did. So anyways THAT IS THE SHIT.  BTW, I did notice some "whipper snappers" standing there looking VERY out of place. :biggrin:

By old, I meant somewhere in the vicinity of 60's/70's....

And this is the first DT show I've ever been to that everyone sat. It was weird.

Anyone at the M&G find out why the show was moved? I'm very interested to know...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: JoiseyDTLovah on July 23, 2012, 10:26:50 AM
That was, hands down, the best DT show I have ever seen. The venue was quite nice, and the mix near perfect. You could hear each band member quite nicely.

I was able to scoot up to front row center since there were quite a few empty seats.

As for the crowd, I have to think that most folks there were comped tix by the casino. It was clear that some of them had no clue what DT was. This was confirmed as I was walking to get a beer during TDEN . I overheard some Angela Lansbury type saying to an usher......"This isn't Donnie and Marie"  No shit.
As for the standing, I love to stand but refuse to do so if those behind me are not standing.  That guy paid money to see DT, not my fat head blocking DT.

Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Rkeister on July 23, 2012, 05:32:25 PM
yeah, i didn't stand only as a courtesy to those behind me.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 24, 2012, 12:52:24 AM
The Dark Eternal Night https://youtu.be/9IiUvOOOJO0
The Root of All Evil & Lost not Forgotten https://youtu.be/oTHwxZyl5PY
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: wasteland on July 24, 2012, 01:02:47 AM
Bootleg  :)

https://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=414077
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Adami on July 24, 2012, 01:03:05 AM
The Dark Eternal Night https://youtu.be/9IiUvOOOJO0
The Root of All Evil & Lost not Forgotten https://youtu.be/oTHwxZyl5PY

This is my first time seeing TDEN with Mangini.


Are they really using Portnoy backing tracks? The quality isn't good enough to tell for sure if that's him or someone else redoing them on the backing tracks.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: FrostbiteZ on July 24, 2012, 06:45:30 AM
Last video for now. Will maybe upload the rest of them at a later time

The Spirit Carries On & Breaking All Illusions https://youtu.be/x8QCQio-SyM
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 24, 2012, 07:39:20 AM
The Dark Eternal Night https://youtu.be/9IiUvOOOJO0
The Root of All Evil & Lost not Forgotten https://youtu.be/oTHwxZyl5PY

This is my first time seeing TDEN with Mangini.


Are they really using Portnoy backing tracks? The quality isn't good enough to tell for sure if that's him or someone else redoing them on the backing tracks.

Yeah they used backing tracks.  I was saying before to just not play the songs with Portnoy backing tracks ... I'm not hating on the song but it just kinda looks odd when JP goes up to the mic and pretends that he is doing the vocals. I'm 99% sure that it's Portnoy's vocals from the album.

I can see why they wanted to play TDEN though because they really have fun with it live.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 24, 2012, 11:50:07 AM
Just read this on the dreamtheater.net board:

"Was really looking forward to seeing Dream Theater at Harrah's in Philadelphia last night.. But when we got there we were told the show was moved to Caesars in Atlantic City...As I was given absolutely no notice of venue/city change for the show I now have to fight with Ticketmaster for a refund.. There were at least 40 others that did not know of the venue/city change either...Pissed does not describe how I feel today.."

I knew this would happen.  :-\
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 24, 2012, 12:20:17 PM
Just read this on the dreamtheater.net board:

"Was really looking forward to seeing Dream Theater at Harrah's in Philadelphia last night.. But when we got there we were told the show was moved to Caesars in Atlantic City...As I was given absolutely no notice of venue/city change for the show I now have to fight with Ticketmaster for a refund.. There were at least 40 others that did not know of the venue/city change either...Pissed does not describe how I feel today.."

I knew this would happen.  :-\

damn... That's why there were a lot of empty seats.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 24, 2012, 12:56:39 PM
Yeah, that's not a good thing at all...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Mladen on July 24, 2012, 01:24:54 PM
Wow, that's a shame...
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: PlaysLikeMyung on July 24, 2012, 03:28:12 PM
And while the venue was silently changed, there is still NO official word from the band. Hell, they didn't even mention it on stage, apologizing. I know Scotty said the band was aware, but why haven't they said anything? I think it still needs to be addressed.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 24, 2012, 06:07:42 PM
I actually did ask the VIP Nation host about the venue change while I was there, but he said that he didn't even know why it happened. I ALMOST asked John Petrucci, but I thought it might have been awkward, so I just started rambling on about Dunlop Jazz III picks instead.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Joep on July 24, 2012, 07:48:17 PM
I spoke with the Box Office rep (runs the Harrah's venue as well).  She tap danced around the issue then gave me the 6th row seats and sent me on.  YES, I did think of our 'brothers', but...............

40+ were shafted.  Wow, that coulda been me.  I was therefore thankful for this website and the knowledge passed from DT peer to DT peer.

Many, many YouTube links for the gig.  Reliving it, thanking them and, by the way.... ahh yeah.  Until next time.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: As I Am on July 24, 2012, 11:03:08 PM
And while the venue was silently changed, there is still NO official word from the band. Hell, they didn't even mention it on stage, apologizing. I know Scotty said the band was aware, but why haven't they said anything? I think it still needs to be addressed.
Look, I know this isn't going to go over well, but you can be damn sure that this sh*t would NOT have happened with MP in the band!

TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL :tdwn
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Adami on July 24, 2012, 11:06:42 PM
And while the venue was silently changed, there is still NO official word from the band. Hell, they didn't even mention it on stage, apologizing. I know Scotty said the band was aware, but why haven't they said anything? I think it still needs to be addressed.
Look, I know this isn't going to go over well, but you can be damn sure that this sh*t would NOT have happened with MP in the band!

TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL :tdwn

huh? Why would you think that?
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: SeRoX on July 24, 2012, 11:09:01 PM
Well, this kind of problem happened while MP was in the band! It's not band's fault. Though they should have mentioned it but well.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 24, 2012, 11:33:46 PM
And while the venue was silently changed, there is still NO official word from the band. Hell, they didn't even mention it on stage, apologizing. I know Scotty said the band was aware, but why haven't they said anything? I think it still needs to be addressed.
Look, I know this isn't going to go over well, but you can be damn sure that this sh*t would NOT have happened with MP in the band!

TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL :tdwn

huh? Why would you think that?

Because MP was always very pro-active with getting important information out to the fans. And I said the same thing a long while back FWIW. DT completely dropped the ball on this one. And for the record I'm not claiming that MP should be in the band or anything, but every person has pros and cons, and one of MPs pros was always getting critical info out there as best as he could.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Adami on July 24, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
You do realize that DT has management for stuff like that, right? I assume they're the ones who dropped the ball.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 25, 2012, 12:01:39 AM
You do realize what pro-active means, right? Yes, DT management dropped the ball, but if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up. Direct blame can be addressed to whomever, but at the end of the day DT could have certainly done more.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Adami on July 25, 2012, 12:03:10 AM
You do realize what pro-active means, right? Yes, DT management dropped the ball, but if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up. Direct blame can be addressed to whomever, but at the end of the day DT could have certainly done more.

I just think when you're a touring musician, things like this are easy to get forgotten by the band.


And don't condescend to me Nick. I don't appreciate it.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: chrisbDTM on July 25, 2012, 07:12:10 AM
it's very easy to say things like " if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up"

the rest of the band really dont care about the fans, totally knew about the issue, and wanted all of them to show up at the wrong venue. its too bad we lost the only member that cared
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Implode on July 25, 2012, 07:44:56 AM
The thing is that Nick is right. MP would've tweeted something. Saying something like that normally implies "the band is not connecting with fans now" or "they don't care as much as MP did" but that's not the case this time. The statement that this wouldn't have happened if MP were still in the band is simply true. Nothing more nothing less.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 25, 2012, 07:48:39 AM
You do realize what pro-active means, right? Yes, DT management dropped the ball, but if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up. Direct blame can be addressed to whomever, but at the end of the day DT could have certainly done more.

I just think when you're a touring musician, things like this are easy to get forgotten by the band.


And don't condescend to me Nick. I don't appreciate it.

I understand they are busy, but on something important like this they should have acted, as MP would have. They have generally done a great job of connecting with the fans since MP left but they simply missed on this one. And I apologize if simply using your phrasing came off condescending to you.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: ResultsMayVary on July 25, 2012, 08:15:43 AM
it's very easy to say things like " if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up"

the rest of the band really dont care about the fans, totally knew about the issue, and wanted all of them to show up at the wrong venue. its too bad we lost the only member that cared
Bingo.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 25, 2012, 11:38:56 AM
it's very easy to say things like " if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up"

the rest of the band really dont care about the fans, totally knew about the issue, and wanted all of them to show up at the wrong venue. its too bad we lost the only member that cared

Well said, dude. :clap:
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: Nick on July 25, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
If it's directed at me, let me just say that I am in no way insinuating that the rest of the band doesn't care about the fans. As I've already said, they've done a GREAT job connecting since MP left. That doesn't mean that mistakes won't happen, and I think it's rather fair to say that there was a mistake on this one.
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 25, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
Yeah I agree that the band could have announced on Facebook/Twitter. They have announced cancellations/venue changes many times before but I guess they just forgot about this one.

I agree that MP would have def. said something. Not saying the other guys don't care... MP is just all about social media
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DTFan0789 on July 25, 2012, 03:20:14 PM
I'm starting to wonder if the BAND even knew that they were originally scheduled to perform at Chester....
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: DebraKadabra on July 26, 2012, 05:52:29 PM
The Dark Eternal Night https://youtu.be/9IiUvOOOJO0 (https://youtu.be/9IiUvOOOJO0)
The Root of All Evil & Lost not Forgotten https://youtu.be/oTHwxZyl5PY (https://youtu.be/oTHwxZyl5PY)
Last video for now. Will maybe upload the rest of them at a later time

The Spirit Carries On & Breaking All Illusions https://youtu.be/x8QCQio-SyM (https://youtu.be/x8QCQio-SyM)

Sorry to quote older posts, but :2metal:

EDIT:  Love Mangini's spitting moment at 14:06 of TSCO/BAI :rollin
Title: Re: 2012-07-21 - Caesar's - Atlantic City, NJ (formerly Chester, PA)
Post by: KevShmev on July 26, 2012, 10:21:56 PM
You do realize what pro-active means, right? Yes, DT management dropped the ball, but if MP was still in the band I think he would have at very least lit a fire under their ass when this came up. Direct blame can be addressed to whomever, but at the end of the day DT could have certainly done more.

I just think when you're a touring musician, things like this are easy to get forgotten by the band.

Agreed.  I remember many having major issues when the fanfire thing was first being used by the band and no one from the band did anything to help them out (and we know Portnoy would have talked about it publicly had he) and it took forever for it all to get sorted out.  Like you said, stuff like that is more on management than the band members.