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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Dr. DTVT on April 10, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
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So, this album was being recommended to me on amazon.com for quite a while, and then I received my copy from The Omega Order the day after Dark Castle posted it in his top 50. Of the 26 albums that came in that order, this album is getting by far the most listening and enjoyment from me. It's just so awesome. Yeah, it's about Satan worship, but it's so over the top its more comical than scary. Hell, I'm just as excited to see them open for Opeth as I am to see Opeth.
So, in the words of Ghost, let's praise Satan for this unholy opus of awesomeness.
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I've just discovered these guys in the last couple if weeks...in preparation for seeing them open for Opeth/Mastodon tomorrow night.
I'm really excited to see them. I'm loving the album, and the performances look like a hoot. I too am just as excited for them as the others.
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Yep, really excited to see them too. Opus is such a fun album.
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Ghost is amazing. Opus Eponymous is amazing. Love the vibe throughout. Ritual is one of my favorites. Damn, the entire album is good.
And the lead singer without all the pope garb on, he looks so normal that you'd never guess he wears what he does
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
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Glad more people are getting into this band, and they should have a new album out some time this year!!
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I'm watching a live performance on youtube. I'd link it but not sure if it's kosher, so just search "Ghost (1of2) live @ Fortarock Nijmegen 2011-07-02"
Holy FUCK is it awesome. I now have a goal of getting my picture taken with the band, or at least the lead singer because that would be badass as all fuck.
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Watch out for him in the crowd, he's said in interviews he likes to watch the other bands they tour with perform, and usually just mingle in with the crowd.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
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I just looked this band up since I'll be seeing them open for Opeth and Mastodon next week. I have to say, their gimmick is really, really cool. Very intriguing. I've never even heard their music, but I'm very excited to see them live. It's nice to know the opener for this show won't be the usual bullshit people don't want to sit through.
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Sound wise, they are like Blue Oyster Cult in the 21st Century. In my opinion that is
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I like what I've heard from these guys but I have a hard time getting over their blatant Mercyful Fate/King Diamond influence.
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I love Ghost. 2012 #2 album of the year for me. Can't wait for the next one.
Tha band 'Subvision" is also very good. ;)
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Sound wise, they are like Blue Oyster Cult in the 21st Century. In my opinion that is
I like to think of Ghost as coming from a parallel universe where Mikael Akerfeldt discovered Blue Oyster Cult instead of Camel as a young man. :lol
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I love Ghost. 2012 #2 album of the year for me. Can't wait for the next one.
Tha band 'Subvision" is also very good. ;)
2012? Their first album came out in November 2010..
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Jan 2011 if you're in America. I think he was saying it was his #2 album that he got this year.
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Jan 2011 if you're in America. I think he was saying it was his #2 album that he got this year.
Ah okay. I'm kind of a crafty bastard and order my albums from Europe >:) Thats how I got Kvelertak a year before the American Release was even announced.
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Sorry. I meant 2nd favorite album of 2011.
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Sound wise, they are like Blue Oyster Cult in the 21st Century. In my opinion that is
If Ghost sounds like BOC, which albums (BOC) would you recommend? All I've heard is Don't Fear the Reaper.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
I thought that was a rumour.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
I thought that was a rumour.
It was no one I had heard of, so I'll just pretend its a secret identity.
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Would it be bad form for me to tell you the identity of the singer?
I hinted at it in my first post on this thread.
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Listening to Opus Eponymous for the first time now.
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Would it be bad form for me to tell you the identity of the singer?
I hinted at it in my first post on this thread.
It's a quite simple google search away.
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Would it be bad form for me to tell you the identity of the singer?
I hinted at it in my first post on this thread.
It's a quite simple google search away.
I always thought that was just a rumour. After hearing a song, yeah he sounds very similar. Hmm.
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I'm just going to be that guy. Click here if you want to know.
https://www.noisecreep.com/2011/08/22/semi-secret-identity-of-ghost-lead-singer-revealed/
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Yeah, haha. It's pretty insane how different he looks.
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If I ever get to see Ghost live, I'll be looking for that nose in the crowd, as they hang out after their set for the other bands usually lol
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In any case, this is a pretty good album so far. :metal :metal
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In any case, this is a pretty good album so far. :metal :metal
Happy to hear you're enjoying it, this band was one of the best surprises I've ever heard in my tenure of metal so far C:
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Great album. :) I was never able to get into Mercyful Fate because of the vocals although the rest was good, so this band is quite nice for me.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
I thought that was a rumour.
There was a rumour that there was a rumour, but that was just bullshit.
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I got into these guys a few months ago. Saw them for the first time in Toronto open for Mastodon and Opeth. Great band! I had to buy a shirt, 'cause their artwork is awesome.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
I thought that was a rumour.
Listen to the album "So Far So Noir" by Subvision. That's definitely the singer... maybe even the same band, by the sound of it.
There was a rumour that there was a rumour, but that was just bullshit.
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So I did some Blue Oyster Cult research and I'm sorry but, IMO, Ghost does not sound like BOC.
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One of the best music discoveries in a while.
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Had a good laugh the other day. My 12 y/o son comes walking in the room singing "Lucifahhhhh, we are heeeeere..."(Con Clavi Con Dio)
BTW, I discovered a few bands that sound like Ghost: Witchfinder General and Pentagram. Very evil and Sabbathy. :tup
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Pentagram is an oldie and a goody. It was great to see Bobby pull himself out of his drug addictions and get his life back together, along with building the bridges back with other band members. :)
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I hear much Mercyful Fate in these guys, and that's a good thing. Pretty cool band.
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Wasn't his real identity recently revealed?
Yep.
I thought that was a rumour.
There was a rumour that there was a rumour, but that was just bullshit.
By far my favorite Douglas line. Well done.
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New song;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN2GCjPh0Hw
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Really fantastic song, I've been listening to it all day
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On first listen it was pretty ordinary to me, but will probably grow just like the first album did.
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Two listens in, the first time was "it's pretty good, i guess", the second was "wow, this is pretty good!". It's a grower.
Glad to see they aren't trying to replicate OE.
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My most anticipated album of 2013 along with Voivod and hopefully, DT.
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2012.12.20 : SOPHOMORE ALBUM
Ghost will release a second full length album, entitled “INFESTISSUMAM”, in the spring of 2013.
Track listing:
1. INFESTISSUMAM
2. PER ASPERA AD INFERI
3. SECULAR HAZE
4. JIGOLO HAR MEGIDDO
5. GHULEH / ZOMBIE QUEEN
6. YEAR ZERO
7. IDOLATRINE
8. BODY AND BLOOD
9. DEPTH OF SATAN’S EYES
10. MONSTRANCE CLOCK
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And it's being produced by Nick Raskulinecz who produced Rush's Clockwork Angels.
I'm so pumped for this album
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Ghost is now known in North America as........Ghost B.C.
In the year of 13, the second phase of GHOST B.C. begins with the release of the sophomore psalm INFESTISSUMAM on April 9, 2013 on Loma Vista Recordings. Papa Emeritus II succeeded Papa Emeritus at the conclusion of phase one in the year of 12, and the Nameless Ghouls joined him under the unholy church's current moniker Ghost B.C. - (Modified from Ghost in the US for legal reasons). Make no mistake though. The rituals still demand the same reverence and praise, fortified through a delivery of sweetly satanic melodies, snaking distorted riffs, and vaudevillian keyboards.
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More importantly, their original singer left?
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No, he just changed his name.
Also: North American Dates
4/12 – Indio, Calif. @ Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
4/18 – Denver, Colo. @ Ogden Theatre
4/19 – Albuquerque, N.M. @ Sunshine Theater
4/21 – Indio, Calif. @ Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
4/23 – Tucson, Ariz. @ Rialto Theatre
4/25 – San Francisco, Calif. @ The Regency
4/26 – Portland, Ore. @ Wonder Ballroom
4/27 – Seattle, Wash. @ Showbox at the Market
4/29 – Vancouver, British Columbia @ Commodore Ballroom
4/30 – Calgary, Alberta @ Republik
5/01 – Edmonton, Alberta @ Starlite Room
5/03 – Winnipeg, Alberta @ Garrick Centre
5/04 – Minneapolis, Minn. @ Mill City Nights
5/06 – Toronto, Ontario @ Opera House
5/07 – Montreal, Quebec @ Corona Theatre
5/08 – Quebec City, Quebec @ Theatre Petit Champlain
5/10 – Boston, Mass. @ Royale
5/11 – New York, N.Y. @ Webster Hall
5/12 – Philadelphia, Pa. @ Trocadero Theatre
5/13 – Washington, D.C., @ 9:30 Club
5/15 – Milwaukee, Wis. @ Turner Hall
5/17 – Detroit, Mich. @ St. Andrews Hall
5/18 – Pittsburgh, Pa. @ Mr. Smalls
So pumped for MN. I haven't been back to Mill City nights since they re-named it
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Secular Haze live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RGnpGWl0Hhk
They played at a music award show in Sweden and I think they successfully converted everybody in that arena.
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Who else is in for the NYC show?
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Nothing close to me :(
And the Pittsburgh date is graduatation day, and I can't miss that...double crap.
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Just listening to the Opus album. Soooooo great! They're on the bill of Seerock Festival I'm gonna visit in June, so this makes me very happy right now :angel:
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Nothing close to me :(
And the Pittsburgh date is graduatation day, and I can't miss that...double crap.
They posted somethign on their FB saying something to the effect of "Patience, children, more to come", strongly suggesting a second leg, hitting other areas.
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https://www.metalsucks.net/2013/02/05/ghost-no-longer-called-ghost/
Apparently they had to change their name, now Ghost B.C. due to legal reasons.
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New name is pretty ordianary IMO.
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Well that's the downside of becoming popular and ("mainstream"). How many underground bands investigate the trademark of their band name and legal stuff in general? Besides...you probably won't find anything by yourself but you can be damn sure "they" will find you when the money starts rollin.
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I'm really diggin Secular Haze.
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It definitely was more aggressive than their debut. Not that much more, but it was heavier and seemed to move them forward a bit
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artwork revealed:
https://i8.cmail1.com/ei/t/7E/35C/C41/142200/newsletter/infestissumam.gif
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I like it :tup
And you know even if you don't like the change to Ghost B.C., at least they didn't ham the B.C. in, it looks nice with it.
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:tup
I approve. It'll look cool next to Opus Eponymous.
Oh, and here is the video for Secular Haze. Very Abba-esque and very cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyQZ13jobIY&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyQZ13jobIY&feature=player_embedded)
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Checked out the Secular Haze video. I enjoy their gettup and everything as it fits well with the music.
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No, he just changed his name.
Also: North American Dates
4/12 – Indio, Calif. @ Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
4/18 – Denver, Colo. @ Ogden Theatre
4/19 – Albuquerque, N.M. @ Sunshine Theater
4/21 – Indio, Calif. @ Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
4/23 – Tucson, Ariz. @ Rialto Theatre
4/25 – San Francisco, Calif. @ The Regency
4/26 – Portland, Ore. @ Wonder Ballroom
4/27 – Seattle, Wash. @ Showbox at the Market
4/29 – Vancouver, British Columbia @ Commodore Ballroom
4/30 – Calgary, Alberta @ Republik
5/01 – Edmonton, Alberta @ Starlite Room
5/03 – Winnipeg, Alberta @ Garrick Centre
5/04 – Minneapolis, Minn. @ Mill City Nights
5/06 – Toronto, Ontario @ Opera House
5/07 – Montreal, Quebec @ Corona Theatre
5/08 – Quebec City, Quebec @ Theatre Petit Champlain
5/10 – Boston, Mass. @ Royale
5/11 – New York, N.Y. @ Webster Hall
5/12 – Philadelphia, Pa. @ Trocadero Theatre
5/13 – Washington, D.C., @ 9:30 Club
5/15 – Milwaukee, Wis. @ Turner Hall
5/17 – Detroit, Mich. @ St. Andrews Hall
5/18 – Pittsburgh, Pa. @ Mr. Smalls
So pumped for MN. I haven't been back to Mill City nights since they re-named it
I'll be there! Would rather take the shorter trip to Milwaukee from Iowa but don't want the hassle of potentially taking off a day of work. So Minnesota it is!
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The more I hear these guys, the more I don't like the vocals. They sound great on the first album, but sound weaker now. Sort of like Simon Le Bon trying to be heavy.
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The more I hear these guys, the more I don't like the vocals.
"You don't like my voice?"
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mtBK6LDFYCI/S0PouAq4ABI/AAAAAAAAAFA/xn0GXH7CONY/s320/Rode,Ewa,Tobias,Linkoping,Sweden,2008.jpg)
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Fantastic band. Can't wait for the new album.
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The more I hear these guys, the more I don't like the vocals.
"You don't like my voice?"
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mtBK6LDFYCI/S0PouAq4ABI/AAAAAAAAAFA/xn0GXH7CONY/s320/Rode,Ewa,Tobias,Linkoping,Sweden,2008.jpg)
Is that seriously the singer?? I thought it was a big secret or something?
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Maybe a revealed secret ;)
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Haha..either way i enjoy their music.
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How wonderfully ironic that Benedict XVI is now taking the title of Pope Emeritus" :rollin
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Yes that is really the singer. It's not really a secret anymore, his name is Tobias and is pretty well known in Europe. It was some metal forum that looked into it. The other music he does is pretty far removed from Ghost's imagery
Anyways, if you casted a ballot for Papa Emeritus to be the next Pope, then you got to hear a new track, Year Zero. It sounds very different from other Ghost songs in my opinion. Kind of 80s sounding. I like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MHt0xbEk0A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MHt0xbEk0A)
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A few tracks are on youtube and man does this stuff sound very different. There's been a soft rock ballad and a Deep Purple track. I'm really excited for this album.
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The new album has been delayed in the US after 4 CD pressing companies refused to press the CD with the artwork given to them. Too offensive. So April 16th it is.
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Listening to the new album. IMO it's even better than the debut! Especially regarding productions and variety. But, they still stick to what we're used to from the first effort. Some songs have an "emo" or even "pop" beginning where it makes me wonder whether this is Ghost, but then everyone joins in and yes, it IS Ghost, and a pretty powerful on. Don't be afraid, the album is a killer! :tup
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Listening to the new album. IMO it's even better than the debut! Especially regarding productions and variety. But, they still stick to what we're used to from the first effort. Some songs have an "emo" or even "pop" beginning where it makes me wonder whether this is Ghost, but then everyone joins in and yes, it IS Ghost, and a pretty powerful on. Don't be afraid, the album is a killer! :tup
Good to know. I keep worrying that it will be a letdown, but that's not because the new tracks I've heard are lacking, but rather because the first album seems like such a "lightning in a bottle" moment that it would be damn near impossible to for the follow-up not to be a letdown by comparison.
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I've got to say I absolutely LOVE their cover of ABBA's 'I'm A Marionette'.
It fits them perfectly
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I'm on my first listen now of the new album. Sounds great so far :metal
I already said it today in another thread, but Year Zero is my favourite song so far this year.
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After 1 listen, I like it better than Opus. The songs have much more variety and are more daring, while keeping the obvious Ghost sound. And the poppy-ness will be a turn off for some I'm sure, but I think it's great.
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Love it after the first listen, I'll listen to it a bit tonight, and on the way to work tomorrow, but it's very good.
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part of me wants to wait till the album drops to hear it in best quality, but i dont know if i can wait that long >_<
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part of me wants to wait till the album drops to hear it in best quality, but i dont know if i can wait that long >_<
I'm listening to it right now in 320 kbps...... whaddaya want? :o :)
And talking about album highlights..... the opening Infestissumam (or was it Infestissumnivarium?) + Per aspera ad inferi is such a kickass of a song! :metal
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part of me wants to wait till the album drops to hear it in best quality, but i dont know if i can wait that long >_<
Call me a wuss, but since I have it pre-ordered I'm not going to grab it on the infinitesimal chance I get caught. I can wait a few more weeks, I got over 900 other albums to keep me company.
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Listening to it right now. Rules so far.
Edit: Just finished my first listen. Love it :metal So evil, yet so catchy!
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New album is very cool. Papa Eremitus's vocals are utterly fantastic.
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The bits I've heard, it sounds more poppy this time around and a bit less sinister. I'm loving what I heard
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Just listened to this for the first time after picking it up today.
I like it quite a lot, I think it has a lot of replay value, but I think it's just a tad too long. That's what made the debut awesome for me, just the shortness of it, it just seemed to work well with the style.
There's some really awesome songs here.
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For me it wasn't as instantly great as the debut, it is more of a grower. But now I find it to be even better than the first one.
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I could tell on the first listen that it is definitely a grower. It does indeed have potential to be better than the debut.
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Surpasses the first by a long shot, and I love the first.
Ghulleh/Zombie Queen is my track of the year so far and Year Zero is up there as well.
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This new album is fucking amazing and I can't wait to see Ghost in a couple weeks. That show is going to be pure fucking evil.
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Surpasses the first by a long shot, and I love the first.
Ghulleh/Zombie Queen is my track of the year so far and Year Zero is up there as well.
Those are my two favouriets as well. The only track I don't love so far is Idolatrine, but I'm sure it will click soon.
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Going to see them this friday. No one but myself to see them, so why not. Its gonna be great.
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I'm excited to hear it tomorrow.
I'm excited for the show in a few weeks too, but the crowd is gonna be interesting. Me and my dad were wondering how many fans realize the Satanic thing is a gimmick or those that take it seriously
Nothing can be worse than the Umphrey's McGee concert. :lol
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Listening right now. This might be even better than their first album!
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I've made it through two passes so far. I think I like it, though i'm really still trying to wrap my head around it. It's not a compact 34 minutes of evil joy like OE, but I appreciate that they're diversefying a bit.
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Oh my holy evil lord, Zombie Queen is wondeful..
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It gets better and better each time. And yes, Zombie Queen is definitely my favorite Ghost song as of this writing.
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It gets better and better each time. And yes, Zombie Queen is definitely my favorite Ghost song as of this writing.
Pretty much this. Unless Red Fang, Rivers of Nihil, or The Ocean shit out utter perfection, this is my album of the year. Yes, even over Kvelertak.
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My copy arrives tomorrow :caffeine:
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Can't believe I have to go to a wedding on 5/11 (when they're in NYC). I'm toying with the idea of heading to the Philly show the next night.
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I'm really digging it. I've listened to it quite a few times, I like Body and Blood, Zombie Queen. Even the title track is really great. The only song I can't get into is Idolatrine.
Depth of Satan's Eyes has the best lyric:
The swamp of feces
That is the world
Flatuates a whirlwind storm
in which you swirl
:lol
I can't rank it above their debut, but it's a killer record and shows progression. I didn't want Ritual Pt. 2 and I didn't get that, although apart from Jigolo Har Megiddo, there isn't really a song that has that vibe, which is far from a bad thing. Nick Rasca----- however you spell it, did a great job
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It would have been so easy for them to just do another batch of songs like Opus and call it a day. Hell, they could have probably gone the rest of their careers doing that. I absolutely love that they're actually progressing as a band though, because it's extremely rare (especially now) for a band that relies heavily on a gimmick (even a good one) to do much else than write the same album 10 times. The first album was pretty cool, but having the new one to compare it to makes them both stronger. I'm really excited to see where else they take it.
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Agreed. Even the band in an interview said they didn't want a repeat of Opus which is great to hear. I too am excited to see where they take it next. I'm also excited to see where they go next after this because they are on a very rapid rise
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This is soooooo good. Gets better with every listed.
The most unexpected thing is the Beatles-esque turns in Body and Blood...though the Dick Dale style in ZQ isn't far behind.
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I imagine Steve McQueen in Bullit during Zombie Queen
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Hell yeah, show tonight. Don't know what to expect except awesomeness.
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Since listening to Ritual a bunch of times the other day after millahh mentioned it in a thread about awesome fadeouts (and rightfully so), I've been meaning to check these guys out. Their gimmick is a little tired IMO, but if their music is half as good as indicated by the one song I've heard, I can easily overlook it. Should I start by listening to their first album or the one that just came out?
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The 1st album is very special to me and a great place to start. There is just a spark to it
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Got my Ghost beanie in the mail yesterday :metal :metal :metal
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Since listening to Ritual a bunch of times the other day after millahh mentioned it in a thread about awesome fadeouts (and rightfully so), I've been meaning to check these guys out. Their gimmick is a little tired IMO, but if their music is half as good as indicated by the one song I've heard, I can easily overlook it. Should I start by listening to their first album or the one that just came out?
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Glad to be of service!
I'd probably start with the original...short & sweet, makes a good baseline against which to listen to the new one, and is just generally great.
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That was one of the best sounding shows i've been to at Sunshine Theater. The band was tight and it was pretty cool.
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That was one of the best sounding shows i've been to at Sunshine Theater. The band was tight and it was pretty cool.
Aggh, exactly one week from now till this show for me. You have no clue how excited I am.
Fuck.
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That was one of the best sounding shows i've been to at Sunshine Theater. The band was tight and it was pretty cool.
Aggh, exactly one week from now till this show for me. You have no clue how excited I am.
Fuck.
You'll enjoy it. That show proved their really good musicians.
Ides of Gemini kinda got boring, but they had redeeming instrumental bits.
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I was definitely impressed by how tight they were when they opened for Opeth/Mastodon. I felt like they upstaged the headliners.
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I was definitely impressed by how tight they were when they opened for Opeth/Mastodon. I felt like they upstaged the headliners.
Maybe it was the fact that I had already seen Opeth 3 times prior and Mastodon 3 times prior, but Ghost most definitely stole the show during the Seattle show last year.
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Since listening to Ritual a bunch of times the other day after millahh mentioned it in a thread about awesome fadeouts (and rightfully so), I've been meaning to check these guys out. Their gimmick is a little tired IMO, but if their music is half as good as indicated by the one song I've heard, I can easily overlook it. Should I start by listening to their first album or the one that just came out?
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Glad to be of service!
I'd probably start with the original...short & sweet, makes a good baseline against which to listen to the new one, and is just generally great.
Actually listened to both albums this weekend, starting with the original. There's really lots of good stuff on both, will need more listens to appreciate. I do like the brevity of their debut, they packed a lot into that 35 minutes or whatever.
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New album is awesome.
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I've listened to the new album 10 times since I got it Thursday. Needless to say I love it, and my favorite song has changed a few times already.
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I'm loving the instrumental jam. Still reliving the show.
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Infestissumam and Per Aspera @ Coachella...with Papa wearing shades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88G_dmoVJCY&feature=youtu.be
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Awesome album.
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Just heard the new album. It's amazing.
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Anybody heard the bonus track yet, "La Mantra Mori."
It's a great track, cool opening and a cool riff. It features acoustic guitar too
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Okaayy....sure why not?!
Ghost Phallos Mortuus Ritual Box Set – Phallus
https://www.backstreet-merch.com/stores/ghost/official_ghost_phallus_phallos-mortuus-ritual-box-set_gits75.html
(https://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/gits/bsi_gits75_xtra_large.gif)
:lol :rollin
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I mean, how else would you worship Satan in the privacy of your own living room?
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Oh my :lol
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I've been listening to Papa's other band (in real life) and there are a few references to Ghost, or what would become Ghost. There's a song called Son of May by the band Subvision which is fronted by Papa and it makes reference to secular haze. I found it kinda interesting
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I like to completely ignore anything the people from Ghost do outside of Ghost because I want it keep it's mystique.
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Haha that boxset....funniest one i've seen.
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I like to completely ignore anything the people from Ghost do outside of Ghost because I want it keep it's mystique.
I just know the lead singer. And he's still a mystery to me since only 3 pictures seem to exist of him.
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Picked this up yesterday, great album. It's got the same sort of psychedelic hard rock feel that early Blue Oyster Cult had, though BOC was rarely this catchy. Really like it, even if Zombie Queen's been stuck in my head for the last fifteen or so hours. :lol
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One more day until Ghost hits Seattle. I'm so excited my genitals are pulsating.
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Man, the deluxe edition was really worth buying. The lithograph is HUGE!
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One more day until Ghost hits Seattle. I'm so excited my genitals are pulsating.
That's what the box set is for.
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One more day until Ghost hits Seattle. I'm so excited my genitals are pulsating.
That's what the box set is for.
I want the shirt from that set, it's actually pretty rad lol
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Man, the deluxe edition was really worth buying. The lithograph is HUGE!
Which version is this? I bought the deluxe version wit the bonus tracks, but it doesn't have a lithograph? Are you talking the set that has the vinyl?
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One more day until Ghost hits Seattle. I'm so excited my genitals are pulsating.
That's what the box set is for.
:lol
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Holy fuck last night was amazing.
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how was the merch?
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Which version is this? I bought the deluxe version wit the bonus tracks, but it doesn't have a lithograph? Are you talking the set that has the vinyl?
Yeah, the vinyl one. Great deal!
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Are they playing Zombie Queen this tour? I haven't seen a setlist
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Are they playing Zombie Queen this tour? I haven't seen a setlist
They haven't so far, which defies reason.
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Well that's too bad. I just actually looked at the set-list and that's really too bad. They aren't playing much of the new album at all really...
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I was a bit bummed, but what they did play off the new album kicked ass.
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Are they playing Zombie Queen this tour? I haven't seen a setlist
They haven't so far, which defies reason.
Really weird. That song would surely be a monster live (or a Zombie, if you will).
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Not playing Zombie Queen live? That song seems like it'd be a monster live. Odd choice there.
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Monstrance Clock is the shit.
-J
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Monstrance Clock is the shit.
-J
Just came here to say that. Really haven't listened to the last part of the album thoroughly until today. What an awesome album.
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Seems like a great way to close a concert too
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Absolutely it does.
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The videos I've seen of them playing it, the outro seems really powerful and then when the choir kicks in. Just seems great. Can't wait to see them on Saturday.
For those that went, what's the crowd like? I guess I just don't know what to expect.
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For us Monstrous Clock was fantastic. The crowd was real into it, some shouting Hail Satan....made the experience more better.
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Ghost was excellent last night. They are so tight as a band that the show never really misses a step. It was a lot of fun.
Ides of Gemini did not get a good reception at all though. I didn't really like them either.
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Ides of Gemini were pretty great I thought. Though I like that doom, depressed sound they had. They were well received in Seattle it felt.
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Ides of March were pretty boring. The vocalist had a one octave range.
When I saw Ghost last year, the opening bands were so much better. Ancient VVisdom was the first one and they were slow and doomy...kinda boring but still unique enough to get into for the opening-opening band.
Then Blood Ceremony was next and man they killed!
Anyway, I gotta say that it was my first concert in Minnesota and I guess I've been spoiled being in Chicago and Milwaukee. Those crowds are insane. MN was kinda relaxed. Still a great show and pretty decent venue.
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Why did they change their name?
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Anyway, I gotta say that it was my first concert in Minnesota and I guess I've been spoiled being in Chicago and Milwaukee. Those crowds are insane. MN was kinda relaxed. Still a great show and pretty decent venue.
That was my first time at Mill City. It was better than I was expecting. I prefer the relax MN crowd. :lol I wasn't sure what to expect, but I'm happy with what I got
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When I saw Enslaved, Royal Thunder, and Pallbearer at Mill City, I liked it a lot too. Station 4 is full of fond memories and nostalgia, but it was nice not having steam rise from my sweat drenched body, and it was nice having a coat check, so I didn't have to freeze my ass off walking back to the parking garage. A pretty good venue overall.
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Compared to The Brick (what it used to be) and then the Christian-Rock Club and then Prince's Night Club The Qwest, yeah. Mill City is pretty great
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Toronto show tonight! Second time seeing then, but when they opened for Opeth and Mastodon the venue was seated and I was at a distance. This should be awesome!
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I was really close to Papa
(https://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu117/Oblivionfan10/72C592DA-4E69-46D4-B9EA-AE7CF94D5151-3091-000002B34E9B0F9F_zps7feceac6.jpg) (https://s639.photobucket.com/user/Oblivionfan10/media/72C592DA-4E69-46D4-B9EA-AE7CF94D5151-3091-000002B34E9B0F9F_zps7feceac6.jpg.html)
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Hey you stole my pic....I got the same exact shot
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Why did they change their name?
There apparently was a band named Ghost that never really went anywhere, but had rights to the name (at least in North America)...so they're Ghost BC in NA, and just Ghost everywhere else.
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It stands for Bull Crap
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What a great show! I can't get over how perfect and not excessively loud the sound was. I went in with earplugs, and used them for Ides of Gemini(whom I wasn't overly fond of) but took them out for Ghost, and my ears aren't even ringing.
I took some pictures. These are a few that I think turned out the best!https://imgur.com/a/T1QAp (https://imgur.com/a/T1QAp)
I have more pictures if anyone is interested in seeing more.
Edit: Wanted to add that their Lead Guitarist Ghoul is fantastic. Spot on for the whole show.
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These guys really need to do a live DVD.
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Has anyone gotten pics of the merch? Or can at least describe what they have?
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There are 5 shirts (one with the new album cover, an old one with new colours, one with the members of the band on the front, and 2 others(they all had the dates on the back)) a hoodie, cds, a ghost rosary, wrist band, stickers, buttons. I think that's it.
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They are also have their white zippo lighter. I bought one because why not.
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Finally bought the new album.
I'm sad they didn't play Ghuleh/Zombie Queen, its a really great song. Hell this whole album is good.
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Last night in Philly was awesome, and they finally played Guleh/Zombie Queen :metal
met papa before the show out of costume, was a nice guy. you'd think they wouldnt draw attention to the fact that theyre the band, but he approached me and another guy and shook our hands, though he pretended he wasnt papa :P
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Last night in Philly was awesome, and they finally played Guleh/Zombie Queen :metal
Awesome! :metal
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Anybody know what a Guleh is?
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Anybody know what a Guleh is?
I assume it's the name of the Zombie Queen. Or maybe another way of saying Ghoul?
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I assumed it was meant to suggest "Ghouley"-and that's the name of the Zombie Queen-myself.
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I like to think of it as a weird satanic chant that all the zombies say to their queen.
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I'm still in the middle of translating Infestissumam. All Heavenly/Wipeout doesn't make much sense
Il Padre
Il Filio
Et Lo Spiritus Malum
Omnis Caelestis
Delenda Est
Anti Cristus
Il Filio De Sathanas
INFESTISSUMAM
The Father
The Son
The Evil Spirit
All Heavenly
Wipe Out
Anti-Christ
The Son of Satan
Most Hostile
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Delenda Est is "must be destroyed"
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Now that makes more sense.
All Heavenly
Must Be Destroyed
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Anybody know what a Guleh is?
The following passage is in a random piece of fiction on Yahoo!:
Every night, my attention would be rapt on every detail as it poured from my father's true fear. "One of them", my father would say, "was called Iblis. God said for him to kiss Adam and Iblis said no. So God changed Iblis's name to Satan. Satan now has many children that are called the Ghul and the Ghuleh. Ghuleh still roam the earth and love to eat women and children. You never know who the Ghuleh is because they can change the way they look and hide right in front of you. Then, when you move your foot, it snatches and grabs your ankle and pulls you in to eat you slowly! That's why you never go into the desert. Ghuleh is waiting for you there."
https://voices.yahoo.com/a-modern-war-story-occultation-ghuleh-8617267.html (https://voices.yahoo.com/a-modern-war-story-occultation-ghuleh-8617267.html)
Seems to fit with the theme.
And this album as a whole is awesome.
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Last night in Philly was awesome, and they finally played Guleh/Zombie Queen :metal
met papa before the show out of costume, was a nice guy. you'd think they wouldnt draw attention to the fact that theyre the band, but he approached me and another guy and shook our hands, though he pretended he wasnt papa :P
Wait, seriously?
Give us more details. Did he say he was with the band or what?
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Yes, more details of your meeting with Tobias!!
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They're known to mingle with the crowd out of costume, hell one night a year or two ago Tobias was pouring drinks at the bar
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I swear I saw him at the MN show during Mastodon's set
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Anybody know what a Guleh is?
The following passage is in a random piece of fiction on Yahoo!:
Every night, my attention would be rapt on every detail as it poured from my father's true fear. "One of them", my father would say, "was called Iblis. God said for him to kiss Adam and Iblis said no. So God changed Iblis's name to Satan. Satan now has many children that are called the Ghul and the Ghuleh. Ghuleh still roam the earth and love to eat women and children. You never know who the Ghuleh is because they can change the way they look and hide right in front of you. Then, when you move your foot, it snatches and grabs your ankle and pulls you in to eat you slowly! That's why you never go into the desert. Ghuleh is waiting for you there."
https://voices.yahoo.com/a-modern-war-story-occultation-ghuleh-8617267.html (https://voices.yahoo.com/a-modern-war-story-occultation-ghuleh-8617267.html)
Seems to fit with the theme.
And this album as a whole is awesome.
Thanks. Wow, the guys in Ghost sure have done their research.
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Ok Saw these guys in philly on sunday, just discovered them at the beginning of April. One of the best Rock shows i've seen. This band is ridiculously good. Honestly to me they are the best band in a long time. The potential this band has for a stellar career is off the charts. This is exactly what Rock music needs imo musically.
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Last night in Philly was awesome, and they finally played Guleh/Zombie Queen :metal
met papa before the show out of costume, was a nice guy. you'd think they wouldnt draw attention to the fact that theyre the band, but he approached me and another guy and shook our hands, though he pretended he wasnt papa :P
Wait, seriously?
Give us more details. Did he say he was with the band or what?
well, i was waiting behind the venue for a lot of the evening with this dude from Brazil I met there who had been following Ghost the last few dates of the tour, and he said their bus was parked a block or two away. We saw the guys from Ides of Gemini load their stuff in, and then at some point we saw a group of guys coming all dressed in black with shades. The brazilian pointed out who he was pretty sure was Papa (who he just kept calling Tobias, cause at this point everyone is pretty certain on that..) and as they walked up he actually approached us and shook our hands and said yeah we're the guys in the band. Honestly I was surprised they'd admit it, I mean they could have been anyone. But the brazilian asked if it was possible to get a picture with Papa, to which Tobias replied "well, he's not really here right now..." so he didn't admit to being Papa, but it was pretty implied. Unfortunately they couldnt take a picture in costume cause apparently they only do stuff like that when theres an official press event. After the show I went out back in the hopes they would come out in costume, but alas they had already changed and therefore wouldnt do any photos or signatures. I don't blame them, but some of the people I was with seemed rather ticked. But I didnt mind to much, helps them maintain the illusion, plus i already met him :biggrin:
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Last night in Philly was awesome, and they finally played Guleh/Zombie Queen :metal
met papa before the show out of costume, was a nice guy. you'd think they wouldnt draw attention to the fact that theyre the band, but he approached me and another guy and shook our hands, though he pretended he wasnt papa :P
Wait, seriously?
Give us more details. Did he say he was with the band or what?
well, i was waiting behind the venue for a lot of the evening with this dude from Brazil I met there who had been following Ghost the last few dates of the tour, and he said their bus was parked a block or two away. We saw the guys from Ides of Gemini load their stuff in, and then at some point we saw a group of guys coming all dressed in black with shades. The brazilian pointed out who he was pretty sure was Papa (who he just kept calling Tobias, cause at this point everyone is pretty certain on that..) and as they walked up he actually approached us and shook our hands and said yeah we're the guys in the band. Honestly I was surprised they'd admit it, I mean they could have been anyone. But the brazilian asked if it was possible to get a picture with Papa, to which Tobias replied "well, he's not really here right now..." so he didn't admit to being Papa, but it was pretty implied. Unfortunately they couldnt take a picture in costume cause apparently they only do stuff like that when theres an official press event. After the show I went out back in the hopes they would come out in costume, but alas they had already changed and therefore wouldnt do any photos or signatures. I don't blame them, but some of the people I was with seemed rather ticked. But I didnt mind to much, helps them maintain the illusion, plus i already met him :biggrin:
Thats funny. I think your friend worded his question wrong. Tobias response was really funny cause he isn't papa until he puts on the costume so technically papa wasn't there, yet.
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Okaayy....sure why not?!
Ghost Phallos Mortuus Ritual Box Set – Phallus
https://www.backstreet-merch.com/stores/ghost/official_ghost_phallus_phallos-mortuus-ritual-box-set_gits75.html
(https://www.backstreet-merch.com/images/products/bands/clothing/gits/bsi_gits75_xtra_large.gif)
:lol :rollin
Okay, so the best part of this is in the description.
"THE SIZE OPTION GIVEN RELATES TO THE T SHIRT, NOT THE DILDO!"
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I found this interview with Two Nameless Ghouls (One I'm sure is Papa, judging from his voice and a few hints). Their voices aren't obscured either, which was kinda odd since they usually are. It's a good interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Al-K3pxxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Al-K3pxxE)
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Ghost cover Depeche Mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVZKhJoYa0&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzVZKhJoYa0&feature=player_embedded)
Both the original and this cover are amazing.
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Nice!
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Woohoo....they just added a one-off show in NYC before Lollapalooza...on my motherfucking birthday!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woE4lBE615I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woE4lBE615I)
Posted a few weeks back. Episode 1 of Papaganda.
Pretty funny. It was cool seeing Papa's mask without the make-up on it
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Last week I saw them opening for Iron Maiden. I'm enchanted... (or should I say - damned!). :flame:
The show was great. Altough they are very theatrical, the songs are top notch. Very pleasant, some very creative harmonic lines, I must say.
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Ghost is finally releasing their EP of covers they did with Dave Grohl back before they recorded Infestissumam.
You can pre-order here: https://clergy.ghost-official.com (https://clergy.ghost-official.com)
Then you get a free download of Secular Haze Live from a Brooklyn ritual
Here's the cover of Roky Erickson's If You Have Ghosts too that they released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNetd_lISI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kNetd_lISI)
Fun Fact: Dave Grohl has indeed performed onstage with them in costume.
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Looking forward to this :tup
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It should be great!
And if you preorder, later you'll get presale info for their next tour. That's great news. And if anyone has watched the video I posted earlier, they already have ideas for Papa Emeritus III
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Meh.
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Just got home after seeing Ghost live, first time seeing them. I have to say, that I consider myself a fairly casual Ghost-fan, I like both albums without being a crazy fan or something like that, but they were really awesome live. I like the albums, but live they were much better.
Papa is amazing. He has a fairly thin voice, but he compensates that with a lot of stage presence, and as soon as he entered the stage, the crowd was in his hands so to speak. Every little gesture or movement from him, and the crowd ate it up. :lol
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Just got home after seeing Ghost live, first time seeing them. I have to say, that I consider myself a fairly casual Ghost-fan, I like both albums without being a crazy fan or something like that, but they were really awesome live. I like the albums, but live they were much better.
Papa is amazing. He has a fairly thin voice, but he compensates that with a lot of stage presence, and as soon as he entered the stage, the crowd was in his hands so to speak. Every little gesture or movement from him, and the crowd ate it up. :lol
When they stopped by here, people were yelling "hail satan", I agree they are amazing live.
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Ghost Live in studio in Australia with Papa in his "street clothes"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg)
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Pretty good...Papa looks great like that.
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Pretty soon, we'll be getting Papa III, who they said might be younger.
I thought those performances were really cool. In a recent interview, a Ghoul (Papa in a normal ghoul mask) said the next album will be a normal progression from Infestissamum, and when asked if the next album will be orchestral, he said no, the fourth album will move in that direction.
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Ghost posted on Facebook that they're working on a 2015 release!
Let the hype train officially begin :lol
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Oh. Yay? :|
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Giving Infestissumam the first listen in awhile, this album is going to go down as one of my all time favorites. It's just as good as when I first listened if not gotten better.
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Oh. Yay? :|
I mean, you don't have to post in the thread if you don't like the band. :lol
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Sweet! Can't wait for the album. Their two albums are both brilliant stuff.
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I know. Sorry.
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I'm a very casual fan, but I will check out anything new they put out. Their debut was good, the second one was even better, and pretty good as a whole. I feel like the thing that makes the band interesting is also kinda the thing that stops me from getting 100% into them, their image that is. It's fun and not to be taken too seriously, and I don't mind their visual concept with the goofy costumes, but that also stops me from getting into them that last part. Image aside, I would say their music is very okay. I definitely enjoy their music, and some songs (especially on the last album) were pretty great. But in all honesty, if they didn't have the image and just looked like five normal dudes on stage, I really doubt they would be a big band right now. They are definitely smart though, they have utilized their image perfectly, and I can't really think of another band that has done so many things right as Ghost has.
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I really want to see Ghost live. Both of their albums pwn so I'm stoked for a third installment.
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Definitely pumped for the new record. Can't wait!
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https://ghost-official.com/?cat=1 (https://ghost-official.com/?cat=1)
Something is happening in Ghost land.
A magazine article in Sweden describes the new album as being darker, industrial post apocalypse theme with more guitar. Papa Emeritus III will dance onstage and will debut either before or on June 4 with the single coming before the first show or "soon" as the site says.
Song titles thus far include:
Devil's Church
He Is
Majesty
Circle
https://www.metalinjection.net/upcoming-releases/ghost-promise-darker-new-album-reveal-papa-emeritus-iii-will-be-crowned-by-june (https://www.metalinjection.net/upcoming-releases/ghost-promise-darker-new-album-reveal-papa-emeritus-iii-will-be-crowned-by-june)
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Awesome :tup
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Oh, I also forgot to include that the band is working with Klas Ahlund on this record who has previously worked with Katy Perry, Madonna, Kesha, Britney Spears, Kylie Minogue, Jordin Sparks, and many others.
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https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/ghost_releasing_new_album_in_august_reveal_title__song_names.html
New album on August 21: Meliora :metal
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Alright, bring it on. :corn
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Papa Emeritus III is unveiled in Ghost ad for new album, Meloria. You can't really get a good look at him though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=33&v=_SnIW2KffOQ
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I'm hoping that song at the end is a song from the album. That bass riff is awesome.
Also cool masks that the band will be wearing. Definitely gonna be a cool album cycle. I wonder which movie poster the new album cover will be modeled after.
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(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/ghostmelioracd.jpg)
"Meliora" track listing, according to U.K.'s Metal Hammer:
01. Spirit
02. From The Pinnacle To The Pit
03. Cirice
04. Spöksonat
05. He Is
06. Mummy Dust
07. Majesty
08. Devil Church
09. Absolution
10. Deus In Absentia
:metal :metal :metal
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Niiice :metal
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That artwork is awesome! Mummy Dust sounds like the new Zombie Queen
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Awesome cover :metal Can't wait!
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I thought there were more fans here on the forum :lol
Do you guys think the single is going to be released on Tuesday or on Wednesday for their warm up gig?
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Pretty sick cover.
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https://www.childrenofghost.com/2015/05/30/listen-to-ghost-cirice/
New song is out and you can download it if you give your email address suckas.
Song's mad dope, probably the heaviest one I've heard from them.
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Love his voice on this track--definitely a heavier Ghost coming our way. I read a comment from someone who said the album has growls on it. Wouldn't be surprising Tobias has done them before in Repugnant
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Great song, love the heavy riffs.
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Great song, love the heavy riffs.
This. And that chorus is tasty. Bring on the album!
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Wow. Good song.
-J
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Well, that was quite enjoyable! I've gotta say, I can really hear Subvision coming through on this.
I'm _really_ looking forward to whatever one was teased in the video from last week, with the brutal bassline.
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I'm not into the schtick but I can recognize a good song when I hear one and that is a great song with a really cool riff. I like it.
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Well, that was quite enjoyable! I've gotta say, I can really hear Subvision coming through on this.
I'm _really_ looking forward to whatever one was teased in the video from last week, with the brutal bassline.
Didn't even think about that, but you're right--especially with his vocal melodies--nice to see another Subvision fan.
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Papa III debuted today and he doesn't look much different. The Ghouls look cool though! Majesty sounds spectacular and the song at the end of the promo was Pinnacle to the Pit
Judging from these songs, this new album is gonna have some really catchy choruses.
Majesty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceA4XbTaO80 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceA4XbTaO80)
From the Pinnacle To The Pit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7rcsYCCrEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7rcsYCCrEg)
Cirice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vej9VzwdZpE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vej9VzwdZpE)
Absolution (My favorite)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST8epo9Bz9w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST8epo9Bz9w)
Papa Emeritus III
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGmxhSjWcAEw-2L.jpg)
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Thanks for posting ST.
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They played again tonight at a festival. I like this Papa--his robe is really cool. And in another photo, this incarnation has hair. It amazes me the amount of people who believe that the singer changes too with each Papa
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11412388_457620481074008_7230277258301447517_n.jpg?oh=fe9baee987e9ad97ce816ceada1c5809&oe=55F46611)
The Ghouls look really cool this go around too, ditching the cassocks and going for a more refined look. And those masks are killer.
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11390284_457620574407332_8237216194557074006_n.jpg?oh=4e73f04fdb56be4870b6c8f6784afbd7&oe=55FC86C2)
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They look really cool :metal
Their show at the Sweden Rock Festival yesterday got a 4 out of 5 in the paper:
https://bloggar.aftonbladet.se/musikbloggen/2015/06/gastkramande-och-modigt-i-midnattstimmen-av-ghost/
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I was looking at some video the other day and I was wondering if they got a new drummer. Some of the comments were asking as well--the setup of the kit was different and the drummer usually plays open handed not cross handed
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New music video for "Cirice" - A fun watch lol.
"Cirice" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=341&v=-0Ao4t_fe0I)
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Holy shit this is gonna be the best one yet.
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I was looking at some video the other day and I was wondering if they got a new drummer. Some of the comments were asking as well--the setup of the kit was different and the drummer usually plays open handed not cross handed
They've gotten quite a few new members since they began. I believe the only consistent members are Papa and one of the guitarists who were in Subvision together.
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I think Simon, Martin (both are guitars) and Papa have remained the same, they were all Magna Carta Cartel as well. The bass and keyboard players have changed, I know that. I was just surprised if the drummer changed as well since he was Martin's brother. But the nice thing about this band is that changes can happen and for the most part, no one can tell :lol
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New music video for "Cirice" - A fun watch lol.
"Cirice" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=341&v=-0Ao4t_fe0I)
I have a feeling that if Dario Argento ever directed a music video it would be similar to this.
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The band debuted another new song at Sweden Rock Festival last night, - "Majesty" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTA6rA3p_c)
Edit: I guess they played this one before live, but the quality is great for being recorded in the crowd. :lol
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I really liked that video and song! Somehow, with the masks and make up and all I expected to be this band wayyy heavier. Gotta check em out! :tup
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Ghost 2015 North American Tour Dates:
BLACK TO THE FUTURE TOUR 2015
09/22 – The Fillmore – Washington, D.C.
09/23 – Newport Music Hall – Columbus, Ohio
09/25 – Stage AE – Pittsburgh, Pa.
09/26 – Union Transfer – Philadelphia, Pa.
09/27 – Terminal 5 – New York, N.Y.
09/28 – House of Blues – Boston, Mass.
09/30 – Metropolis – Montreal, Quebec
10/1 – Sound Academy – Toronto, Ontario
10/2 – The Majestic Theater – Detroit, Mich.
10/3 – The Riviera – Chicago, Ill.
10/5 – Liberty Hall – Lawrence, Kansas
10/6 – The Pageant – St. Louis, Mo.
10/8 – The Civic Auditorium – New Orleans, La.
10/9 – The Tabernacle – Atlanta, Ga.
10/10 – Beacham Theatre – Orlando, Fla.
10/11 – The Ritz – Tampa, Fla.
10/13 – House of Blues – Dallas, Texas
10/14 – Aztec Theater – San Antonio, Texas
10/16 – Sunshine Theater – Albuquerque, N.M.
10/17 – Sumitt Music Hall – Denver, Colo.
10/19 – Knitting Factory – Boise, Idaho
10/20 – El Corazon – Seattle, Wash.
10/21 – Roseland Theatre – Portland, Ore.
10/23 – Warfield – San Francisco, Calif.
10/26 – The Mayan Theater – Los Angeles, Calif.
10/27 – Knitting Factory – Reno, Nev.
10/28 – The Depot – Salt Lake City, Utah
10/30 – Northside Park Theater – San Diego, Calif.
10/31 – House of Blues – Las Vegas, Nev.
11/01 – Monster Mash Festival – Phoenix, Ariz.
No Minnesota.....
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This explains their event for Philly, that date is the same weekend the Pope will be in Philly :lol
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This is such great news! Seeing Ghost in October is going to fill me with a glorious amount of Halloween spirit!
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This is such great news! Seeing Ghost in October is going to fill me with a glorious amount of Halloween spirit!
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It's a shame you had to move to Colorado, Dylan. BtBaM and Ghost could have been us. Now it's just me... *emoticon where guy sadly bounces back and forth and shakes head*
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Alright, Albuquerque again.
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Ticket for NYC purchased!
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New single(s):
From the Pinnacle ton the Pit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tdlg2JXuaQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tdlg2JXuaQ)
Cirice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Ao4t_fe0I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Ao4t_fe0I)
Papa Emeritus III unveiling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFREQcRaqlk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFREQcRaqlk)
´Absolution´ live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lb5csp13s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lb5csp13s)
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Nice!
From The Pinnacle To The Pit sounds great :metal
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another new song streaming, "Absolution"
https://www.childrenofghost.com/2015/07/27/stream-absolution/
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I like the feel this song has. Especially that middle Yes/ELP/70s Prog part. It feels very grand in nature and seems to fit perfectly as the penultimate song.
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Yeah another great one :tup
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New song out. Majesty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS5-QmkKzJQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS5-QmkKzJQ)
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I wasn't a huge fan of the band earlier, but based on all the songs I've heard so far, I think this album is going to be awesome.
Majesty, Cirice & From the Pinnacle to the Pit have all been great. I love the different production as well. :metal
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Hmm Majesty wasn't as great as the other two (Cirice and Pinnacle) but I have such high expectations on this one anyway :metal
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Getting a really strong Opeth/Alice in Chains vibe on that song. Love it!
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Anyone else think the mix seems different each song? That one sounded a bit weaker than the others? Nonetheless, great track. The verses give me an ABBA feel--which isn't surprising since they love them
Also here is a track by track review. Sounds like this will be their defining album.
https://www.metalinjection.net/reviews/a-track-by-track-review-of-ghosts-meliora (https://www.metalinjection.net/reviews/a-track-by-track-review-of-ghosts-meliora)
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Interesting review there. No intro track this time around, but two short instrumentals/interludes ("Spöksonat" and "Devil Church").
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The Summoning Part 2. Looks like Ghost will be doing store signings and unplugged shows later this month in some cities. Also a snippet of I'm guessing Mummy Dust
https://youtu.be/JkVf_9hhqEY (https://youtu.be/JkVf_9hhqEY)
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Why they´re not called ´B.C.´ anymore:
https://loudwire.com/ghost-no-longer-obligated-to-use-b-c-in-name/ (https://loudwire.com/ghost-no-longer-obligated-to-use-b-c-in-name/)
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Okay, so this album is great. I hold Infestissumam and the debut pretty high, so Meliora has a long road ahead. I think after a few listens it will be on par or better.
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just heard it, and it´s pretty good! :metal
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Did it finally leak?
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Deus in Absentia is so good.
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Did it finally leak?
Apparrently..... on a side note: ordered cd version of 'If you have ghosts' and Opus Eponymous. after two weeks the latter arrives. Afte more than 4 weeks they deliver the LP version of if you have Ghosts. WTF. What do I need vynil for? What a mess, never ordering through that outlet again. :censored
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Deus in Absentia is so good.
Yes. This song is just stunning.
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LOL https://www.facebook.com/christiansagainstghost (https://www.facebook.com/christiansagainstghost) :mehlin
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LOL pt. 2: Papa and Frankie come to Philly!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=24&v=O_peVgoohE0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=24&v=O_peVgoohE0)
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I kind of see where that Metal Injection review got the Dream Theater vibe from the keyboard in Mummy Dust--it does sound like Rudess :lol
I really am loving He Is though--such a great tune.
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I've given the album a few listens and I'm really enjoying it, but I don't know if I can put it above Infestissumam yet. It will most likely one day, but right now I can't. I like almost every single track, but I feel like some of them end a bit too abruptly--Deus In Absentia is all of a sudden over and the choir takes over. I'll grow to like it, but it's just kind of over.
I do have the Mummy Dust chorus stuck in my head (In God You Trust/My Mummy Dust)
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Somehow I missed this despite being on the lookout for it every other hour. Finally listening. Spirit is a lovely opener. :metal I have extremely high hopes for this considering the quality of the tracks released so far. I think I've enjoyed everything released so far more than anything on their prior two outings.
More stream-of-consciousness thoughts: That fucking bass intro to Pinnacle is so...beefy. Even better with solid headphones. Damn. Cirice is still one of the best songs I've ever heard. Can't wait to hear that one live. He Is has to be the most church-like piece they've done, but not in a lame, overly tonal way. It's fucking dark. Sick. Personally, I think this utterly destroys Infestessumam, which I also thought completely destroyed Opus Eponymous. If we can look forward to this steady increase of quality throughout their career, this could be a downright legendary band we're watching grow up. Alright, time for Deus in Absentia. So stoked. It's very...bombastic. Almost Queen-like. Typical of the quality of Ghost album closers. This album fucking kills.
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Whom knows....? I enjoy these guys for their music.
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So this is definitely my favorite album of theirs and one of my favorites of the year. Stellar stuff.
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I need a few more spins to make a fair judgement (Opeth pun!) but it sounds like another brilliant one. At the moment it can't top Infestissumam as their best one though. Favourite so far (of the ones they didn't release as a youtube video) is Mummy Dust.
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Entire album is streaming on YouTube for those who haven't caught it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzzkemzfdfU
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tommy rogers rt'ed this so i guess i'm listening to this album now
my 7-minutes-into-it opinion: this is pretty cool
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This is good dudes. IMO they've had some mind-blowingly good tracks on their other two albums but neither one was super consistent. This one is awesome start to finish.
-J
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Yeah. After like 5 listens, this is my favourite from Ghost.
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Definitely awesome, and they brought the prog on this one, as well.
Deus in Absentia sounds like it could be a TDH song.
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It's on Spotify now :tup
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I liked this, maybe even slightly more than the first two. Still, not one of my favorites of the year or anything, but another good album from them. :)
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The album gets better and better each time. From The Pinnacle To The Pit might be my favourite Ghost song. DAT BASS
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I can't stop listening to "He Is" for some reason. So damn catchy.
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Majesty's chorus is so damn epic and glorious :metal
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No way, it's the ending of Majesty that is so damn epic and glorious! It gives me chills every time. In what has already been a fantastic year for new releases, this one will probably wear the crown and wield the scepter as Album of the Year. :hefdaddy "He Is," "Deus in Absentia," "Cirice," and "From the Pinnacle to the Pit" are my personal favorites. I bought the CD at Best Buy and it even came with three Ghost trading cards.
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The keyboard being so present was not something I was expecting on this release. It's awesome! I know that they still have the same guy in that spot, so it's nice to see him so prevalent. That Mummy Dust solo is awesome.
You can tell they changed drummers too, the playing is tight and a bit more experimental then the last two (one actually, because the drummer on this one is also the one who played on Opus).
This album really really grew on me. I'm loving it.
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The keyboard being so present was not something I was expecting on this release. It's awesome! I know that they still have the same guy in that spot, so it's nice to see him so prevalent. That Mummy Dust solo is awesome.
You can tell they changed drummers too, the playing is tight and a bit more experimental then the last two (one actually, because the drummer on this one is also the one who played on Opus).
This album really really grew on me. I'm loving it.
Intriguing...where are you finding this info?
My suspicion (based on playing style) is the the bass player changed after OE, but has been the same since. Any information there?
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I love pretty much everything about this album so far. It surpassed my lofty expectations, and will probably be my favorite of the three when all is said and done, and probably a contender for my #2 album of the year (I don't think it will dethrone my current #1).
The awesome part is that I got it free at Best Buy. I noticed that all the CDs were mispriced at $1.99 on the CD, but the display said $9.99. I'm pretty sure they were supposed to read $11.99 because BB usually has new releases on sale for a week or two. I pointed it out to the manager and stated I wanted to pay the proper price and that I was only pointing it out so they could fix it before an unreasonable customer came in. After about two minutes of insisting that I wanted to pay the proper price (and honestly I did), he just gave it to me for free, and said he'd call it broken merchandise. Well, he was kind of right, because the plastic teeth that hold the CD were broken when I got home.
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This one is getting closer every day to topping Infestissumam for me as their best. Mummy Dust, He Is, Absolution, and Spirit rank among their very best.
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It's an increddibly good album. I love everything about it, Mummy dust probably being the weakest track on there.
They're doing or have just finished a hillarious short promo un(holy)plugged tour in the US currently, some great footage to be found on Youtube and FB. They even had the 'clergy lady' from the clips on one date introducing them. The do three songs only with Ghuleh/Zombie Queen accompaniment by Papa on Kazoo.... :rollin
Great response all over.
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Intriguing...where are you finding this info?
My suspicion (based on playing style) is the the bass player changed after OE, but has been the same since. Any information there?
I remember reading around the time that Infestissumam came out that the first album was mainly comprised of Magna Carta Cartel members, which isn't surprising since Good Morning Restrained came out after Ghost first started forming. It mentioned how the drummer on that album was Arvid Persner, the lead guitarist's brother, and that he recorded the drums for that album but was unable to tour with the band. Apparently, he's back now. And he makes an appearance in the Cirice video apparently as the weird guy in the suit clapping at the end...
The old drummer is Aksel Holmgren who now plays with a Swedish band called The Great Discord
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEKcl8MzWLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEKcl8MzWLQ) (Watch the drummer, the styles and setup are very similar).
The bass player, I'm not sure about. Some say it was the bass player in a Death Metal band called Maim and others have said he's the keyboard player's son.
The keyboard player has been the same since Infestissumam. Before that album came out, it was just a guy standing behind a keyboard miming along.
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Was gonna see their acoustic set in NY but they were out of wristbands. :censored
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Was gonna see their acoustic set in NY but they were out of wristbands. :censored
That's too bad, they look like awesome shows. Jiggalo Har Megiddo sounds awesome acoustically and Papa playing Kazoo on Zombie Queen is awesome.
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Nice interview:
https://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/artist-of-the-week/feature-interview-ghost/11787973 (https://www.artistdirect.com/entertainment-news/article/artist-of-the-week/feature-interview-ghost/11787973)
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Bonus track, Zenith, now streaming:
https://www.childrenofghost.com/2015/08/28/stream-ghosts-zenith/
Very easy to hear Magna Carta Cartel in this.
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Bonus track, Zenith, now streaming:
https://www.childrenofghost.com/2015/08/28/stream-ghosts-zenith/
Very easy to hear Magna Carta Cartel in this.
Kickass song, should have been on the album. :metal
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Yeah, I'm disappointed that it didn't make it. It's such a great track!
I'm looking forward to hearing the cover CD that they've apparently been working on too
And according to Billboard.com, the band is looking to break the Top 10 on the Billboard 200 at #8. For reference, Opus obviously didn't even chart and Infestissumum debuted at 28. This is awesome news!
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It's cool to see that his band is blowing up. They sold 29,000 copies (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghost-lands-first-ever-u-s-top-10-album-with-meliora/) of their new album in the United States last week.
I think their last album opened up with 17 or 18 thousand, for comparison's sake.
:metal
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I love this album so much I'd fuck it, marry it, and treat it to a nice dinner every other weekend.
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I'm looking forward to the US tour starting up. They keep saying that they've upped the production for this tour and that Papa is going to be quite the showman--which will be cool to see because there hasn't been much change in what he normally does onstage besides maybe a bit more banter with funny comments.
At one of the festivals, before Monstrance Clock, Papa was asking if the crowd was going to sing along to the song:
"Some of you might know the lyrics, some of you might not. Nobody is perfect. These lyrics are very simple even an imbecile could figure it out. So listen to most of the song and eventually you will figure it out. When it's your turn to sing, I will give you a cue. YOU OVER AT THE HOT DOG STAND, are you going to sing with us!?"
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Yeah, and later: ´Hotdog stand, I´ watching you!´
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Yeah, and later: ´Hotdog stand, I´ watching you!´
I forgot about that :lol
At the Leeds gig when he's clapping out the rhythm to Majesty:
*Crowd clapping along, Papa points at someone in the crowd*
"You too, tough guy"
There was another one where it was raining out and Papa goes:
"How are you doing out in the rain? Are you wet because of the rain though?"
Someone throws a bra onstage, Papa picks it up:
"Oh, thank you.... I will keep this dry for you"
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That's beautiful. The guy somehow never fails to crack me up! I also like the fact he seems to know exactly where the boundaries lie as to how far to take the act.
I watched some footage of a great concert in Chili (with a totally fantastic crowd, btw) where he goes into this whole spiel about 'you know what this song is about do you? It's about blood. (shrieks from the crowd) 'it's about someone else's blood! (more shrieks) 'it's about......(dramatic pause) DRINKING someone else's blood!' hahaha! (total shrieks of horror from the crowd).
That's as far as I've ever heard him go, though. Other than 'Monstrance Clock' being about 'fucking' .
Also, at the Denmark or Sweden show this year, at one of Papa III's first shows: 'I've had some comments about my shoes. That I'm showing some ankle. Mmmm. Nothing wrong with a little nudity, is there?' ;D
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Official music video for From The Pinnacle To The Pit is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs
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Official music video for From The Pinnacle To The Pit is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A-IoOEPbUs
that´s a cool video, and the song is one of my favourites from the album.
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The Black To The Future Tour started last night in DC. Ghost is back bigger then ever it seems. They have a huge stage setup and light show, and Papa now does wardrobe changes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBAzeoy4JkU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBAzeoy4JkU) Here is the intro and Spirit
(Masked Ball)
Spirit
From the Pinnacle to the Pit
Ritual
Con Clavi Con Dio
Per Aspera ad Inferi
Majesty
(followed by a drum solo)
Stand by Him
Prime Mover
Body and Blood
Devil Church
(Live debut)
Cirice
(With "Shine on You Crazy Diamond, intro)
Year Zero
Jigolo Har Megiddo
(Acoustic)
He Is
(Live debut)
Absolution
Mummy Dust
(followed by a piano solo)
Ghuleh/Zombie Queen
If You Have Ghosts
(Roky Erickson cover)
Encore:
Monstrance Clock
Awesome setlist!
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Man they got to film this tour for a DVD.
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Man they got to film this tour for a DVD.
Exactly what I was thinking! The setlist is too awesome not to film and release.
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That's a pretty great set list. :metal
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that´s an amazing setlist! :metal
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Papa's mother was in the audience at the NYC show tonight...so Papa was on his good behavior :rollin
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I wasn't entirely sold on their debut, and really didn't like the second album. But this album is pure musical gold IMO. It even made me go back to the debut, and now I'm starting to dig that one as well. Awesome band, and as far as I'm concerned Meliora is one of the best rock albums of 2015.
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Just got back from the show. :metal :metal :metal
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Yeah, they're killing it on this tour! Gotta record it for DVD man.
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I was listening to Body and Blood today and I fell in love again with one of my favorite parts of the song and I don't think a lot of people pick out right away, but it's a part I can't get out of my head. During the guitar solo towards the end, the keyboard is playing the main melody of the song and the sound they chose to use (an old blues sounding organ) is absolutely amazing and captures the atmosphere perfectly. When I listen to the guitar solo, it's all I hear in the back
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SystematicThought - Forgive me if I'm misremembering, but I thought you were pretty religious. If so, I take it you don't mind all the Satan stuff because its so over the top and not serious?
Anyone who is pretty serious about Christianity and likes Ghost can speak up - just something that popped into my head last night.
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Good memory! Yes I am, and funny thing is that I found Ghost at the peak of me finding religion again in my life. But yeah, it's never bothered me. If you read and listen to some interviews with the band they are very quick to point out they are an entertainment act first and overall are very respectful about religion and especially physical churches with one ghoul saying he visits churches on tour to appreciate the architecture and such. Very respectful guys. They also raise some pretty interesting topics for Christians to discuss such as Mummy Dust which is about placing value on money and greed which is ironic since it says in God We Trust. Cirice as well, since I have witnessed first hand churches going for a person's weakness to bring them in to their beliefs and then kinda drop them once they join and start donating. It's very interesting to me
So yeah, it's never bugged me--the only one that does for some reason is Prime Mover. I don't know why, to me it's their darkest piece. The other thing that helped with Ghost not bugging me was listening to their other bands in which they talk about falling in love with blonde women at bars. That also helped me realize how tongue in cheek Ghost is. They are just fans of 70s hard rock which sang about the same stuff--just not as blatant.
I do wonder how many people do think Ghost is serious about what they sing about. There's gotta be some that do. The fanbase is pretty interesting in terms of that. There are those that seriously seem to think that they are a group of Satanists and that each Papa is actually different.
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Those are the ones yelling hail satan and all that stuff at their shows. The band doesn't bother me, but some fans do. I just stayed my distance and enjoyed the show, which was when they released Infestissium.
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If you actually read the lyrics to 'Year One' closely, you'll see it reads 'Hell Satan' and not (as I wrongfully interpreted as well) 'Hail Satan'.
Personally, I'm somewhat shocked there aren't any Christian protesters picketing outside their concert venues, especially in the States. Expected a little more backlash, but yeah.
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A potential Christian backlash would be interesting...the Satan stuff is really just a thin veneer over what is really a critique of much of Christianity (Catholicism, in particular).
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If you actually read the lyrics to 'Year One' closely, you'll see it reads 'Hell Satan' and not (as I wrongfully interpreted as well) 'Hail Satan'.
Personally, I'm somewhat shocked there aren't any Christian protesters picketing outside their concert venues, especially in the States. Expected a little more backlash, but yeah.
Interesting, though people still yell that when they stop playing or something similar. I'm also amazed theirs not much backlash. If any band, it'd be ghost, but for some strange reason i haven't seen a lot of it.
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If you actually read the lyrics to 'Year One' closely, you'll see it reads 'Hell Satan' and not (as I wrongfully interpreted as well) 'Hail Satan'.
Personally, I'm somewhat shocked there aren't any Christian protesters picketing outside their concert venues, especially in the States. Expected a little more backlash, but yeah.
I thought I had read in an interview with them that Hell is a Swedish form of saying Hail. I'm probably wrong, but I thought I remember seeing that because I thought the same.
I think there hasn't been much backlash because they haven't really gone out of their way to put themselves on the frontlines. They've said themselves that they aren't out to ruffle feathers. I think Omega in an interview said that they are just presenting the dark side of the Bible and have essentially taken the Catholic Church and drawn a mustache on it essentially (their words, not mine).
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This should be amusing...Ghost will be the musical guest on Colbert on 10/30.
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I wonder what song they will perform. Cirice or Majesty or something not from the new album. Will definitely be good
(https://assets.blabbermouth.net.s3.amazonaws.com/media/ghostcolbert.jpg)
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I'm thinking either Absolution or If You Have Ghosts (the latter, since it's for Halloween and all). I have a hard time envisioning anything from the first album in front of that audience.
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It will probably be If You Have Ghost. I agree though, first album is out :lol
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Dreath Knell would be great..... :angel:
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It's probably gonna be From the pinnacle to the pit. :metal
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Maybe Stand By Him "Tis the night of the witch"
But it will probably be a new one.
Anyways, they also seemed to have cut the drum solo out of the show after Majesty and leading into Stand By Him. Understandable, it wasn't much of a solo and he didn't even really seem to know what he wanted to play. It was still cool to see though
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No surprise here, but that was the best song played on Colbert thus far.
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thanks for the reminder.
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That was such a quick version of Cirice. Did they have two keyboard players tonight or did he just make his way up to the catwalk?
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Pretty cool with some people from the audience being possessed. Nice added theatrics.
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So they played Cirice, huh? That's one fine choice, now we wait for the video. :metal
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it´s already on youtube, go to the the official late show channel.
Pretty cool performance, a pity that they played only one song.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMWeIRX-ZHE
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That was cool. A bit too heavy on pre-recorded vocal harmonies, though.
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Yeah, no info on the Zippo's, sorry. ;D Too bad their appearance on Colbert's show came almost at the end of the US tour. They could've benefitted more from the exposure had it been earlier in the tour.
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Ghost are nominated for a Grammy in 2016, for Best Metal Performance :metal
I'm not familiar with the other nominees, how big are the chances for a Ghost win?
Ghost - Cirice
August Burns Red - Identity
Lamb of God - 512
Sevendust - Thank You
Slipknot - Custer
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:metal indeed.
For a couple of recent shows, Alpha (lead guitar) had a bum should, so Water (bass) filled in on lead guitar. Seen pics, but no video yet.
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Ghost are nominated for a Grammy in 2016, for Best Metal Performance :metal
I'm not familiar with the other nominees, how big are the chances for a Ghost win?
Ghost - Cirice
August Burns Red - Identity
Lamb of God - 512
Sevendust - Thank You
Slipknot - Custer
Lamb of God has a good chance, so does Slipknot, not too sure about Sevendust, Ghost has the same chance as these three. But it'll likely go to August Burns Red.
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Usually post in the DT section, but Ghost has ruled 2015 for me while I've been taking a little break from DT as I usually do before they release a new album.
When Secular Haze came out awhile back, I clicked on the video for some weird reason. Loved the song and the video was so entertaining in a comical sort-of-way.
When Cirice dropped, I was floored. Meliora has turned out to be my favorite album of 2015, and Ghost has filled that void DT normally filled up, until The Astonishing drops of course.
There is not a bad song on Meliora. The album is super accessible which is very refreshing every once in awhile to someone who really only listens to DT, SW and Opeth.
My current fav is the album's closer, Deus In Absentia. But Absolution (maybe the "fan fav" track on this album?) is catching up.
Other favs: He Is (Maybe my overall favorite, gun to head), Spirit, Cirice, From The Pinnacle To The Pit
Least Fav: Majesty
These guys sure know how to write killer riffs, and huge, catchy addicting hooks. Their next album is my most anticipated of any band, and that hurts me to say as I have been a DT obsessor since SFAM!
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Meliora is extremely consistent and you're right about there not being a bad track, it's great through and through. If you haven't heard the bonus track, Zenith, check it out
US Tour Dates for Spring 2016
This is the first US tour that they've skipped Minnesota. They played here back when they were just starting with Papa I and now they aren't coming here :(
April 13 – The Wellmont Theater – Montclair, NJ
April 14 – The Sherman Theater – Stroudsburg, PA
April 15 – The Paramount – Long Island, NY
April 16 – College Street Music Hall – Waterbury, CT
April 17 – Rapids Theatre – Buffalo, NY
April 19 – The Castle Theatre – Bloomington, IL
April 20 – Sokol Auditorium – Omaha, NE
April 22 – Tricky Falls – El Paso, TX
April 23 – The Rialto Theatre – Tucson, AZ
April 25 – Emo’s – Austin, TX
April 26 – House of Blues – Houston, TX
April 27 – The Varsity Theatre – Baton Rouge, LA
April 29 – WXTB Rockfest – Tampa, FL
April 30 – Fort Rock – Ft. Myers, FL
May 01 – Welcome To Rockville – Jacksonville, FL
May 02 – Iron City – Birmingham, AL
May 03 – Marathon Music Works – Nashville, TN
May 04 – Tennesee Theater – Knoxville, TN
May 07 – Carolina Rebellion – Charlotte, NC
May 08 – The Hippodrome – Baltimore, MD
May 09 – The National – Richmond, VA
May 11 – Mercury Ballroom – Louisville, KY
May 12 – Track 29 – Chattanooga, TN
May 13 – Shaky Knees Festival – Atlanta, GA
May 17 – Diamond Ballroom – Oklahoma City, OK
May 19 – Egyptian Room – Indianapolis, IN
May 20 – The Orbit Room – Grand Rapids, MI
May 22 – Rock’N Derby – Albany, NY
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That's cool that they seem to be intentionally going off the beaten track on the next tour (LI and NJ, but no NYC). I might have to miss this tour depending on the exact date of a professional certification exam), but I'll still make the attempt.
Amazing that, three (and a half) albums in, there's only one song that isn't very good (Idolatrine)...and even they know it, as it's never been played live, despite three tours worth of opportunities.
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Meliora is extremely consistent and you're right about there not being a bad track, it's great through and through. If you haven't heard the bonus track, Zenith, check it out
I actually haven't heard Zenith, thanks so much for letting me know!
Off to check it out now.
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i listened to this album twice and didn't get much out of it either time but then i hear clips from the songs and i'm like "damn this is awesome" and i'm wondering why the album failed to leave any impact on me but i somehow want it regardless
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if you get the chance, go see them. I missed them twice already, but I'll make damn sure I catch them next time. Their live show is awesome.
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I have a shit-ton going on around the Stroudsburg date, but like the venue, and might try and make it up for that.
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Holy shit, they won the fucking Grammy!!
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Awesome!
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12717851_10208755231381926_1530159433961638614_n.jpg?oh=1c24849835b939abf85cf98ba27fc9ac&oe=5766AC23)
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That's so awesome :metal
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Yay, too bad they collected it before the live broadcast and were received in almost total silence on the podium, it seems. But one up for Theatrical Rock! :tup
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Nice :) Cirice was one of my favorite songs of last year but whole album is awesome as well :tup
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Well deserved.
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Just discovered Meliora / this band. What can I say, awesome stuff! Hard to pick a favorite amongst so many gems, I think it's a tie between "He Is" and "Absolution".
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Just got back from seeing these guys live here in Richmond, VA.
Fucking incredible.
If any of you get the chance to see them, DO IT.
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New EP coming later this year :tup
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/entertainment/ghost_to_release_new_ep_this_year.html
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I don't know, I'm never able to get excited about an EP. I'd prefer a full album, but oh well.
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Swedish occult rockers GHOST have announced the "Popestar" U.S. headlining tour — a 35-city run that will include two rituals at The Wiltern in Los Angeles this coming October. Tickets for these dates will be available for purchase beginning Friday, June 17 at 10:00 a.m. local time. Tickets purchased for select shows will include a digital download of new music that will be made available the day their fall rituals begin. Check out Ghost-Official.com for participating dates and details. VIP packages are also available.
"Popestar" U.S. tour dates:
Sep. 16 - Rochester, NY - The Armory
Sep. 19 - Pittsburgh, PA - Stage AE
Sep. 21 - Cleveland, OH - Masonic Auditorium
Sep. 23 - Memphis, TN - Minglewood Hall
Sep. 27 - Tulsa, OK - Brady Theater
Sep. 28 - St. Louis, MO - The Pageant
Sep. 30 - Kansas City, MO - Arvest Bank at Midland Theatre
Oct. 01 - Madison, WI - Sonic Boom Festival
Oct. 02 - Louisville, KY - Louder Than Life
Oct. 03 - Detroit, MI - The Fillmore
Oct. 04 - Kalamazoo, MI - Kalamazoo State Theatre
Oct. 05 - Cedar Rapids, IA - Paramount Theatre
Oct. 07 - Denver, CO - Paramount Theatre
Oct. 08 - Salt Lake City, UT - The Complex
Oct. 09 - Missoula, MT - The Wilma Theatre
Oct. 11 - Calgary, AB - MacEwan Hall
Oct. 13 - Vancouver, BC - The Vogue Theater
Oct. 14 - Seattle, WA - The Moore Theater
Oct. 15 - Eugene, OR - McDonald Theater
Oct. 16 - Portland, OR - The Rosalind Theater
Oct. 18 - Riverside, CA - Riverside Municipal Auditorium
Oct. 20 - Los Angeles, CA - The Wiltern
Oct. 21 - Los Angeles, CA - The Wiltern
Oct. 22 - Las Vegas, NV - The Brooklyn Bowl
Oct. 25 - Phoenix, AZ - Comerica Theatre
Oct. 27 - Lubbock, TX - City Bank Auditorium
Oct. 28 - San Antonio, TX - The Aztec Theater
Oct. 31 - Little Rock, AR - Metroplex
Nov. 02 - Orlando, FL - The Hard Rock
Nov. 03 - Miami Beach, FL - Fillmore Miami Beach
Nov. 04 - Jacksonville, FL - The Florida Theatre
Nov. 05 - Charlotte, NC - The Fillmore
Nov. 07 - Raleigh, NC - The Ritz
Nov. 09 - Toronto, ON - Queen Elizabeth Theatre
Nov. 11 - Montreal, QC - Metropolis
Nov. 12 - Brooklyn, NY - Kings Theatre
GHOST has completed work on a new EP for a fall release via Loma Vista. The effort, which consists primarily of covers, was helmed by English producer Tom Dalgety, who has previously worked with ROYAL BLOOD and KILLING JOKE, among others.
GHOST won the Grammy for "Best Metal Performance" during the pre-telecast ceremony at the 58th annual Grammy Awards. GHOST was nominated for the song "Cirice" from the band's latest album, "Meliora".
"Cirice" recently reached the Top 10 at rock radio, the first song from the band to get significant airplay in the U.S.
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Read more at https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghost-announces-popestar-u-s-tour/#SyWYHtAi8x65TRUj.99
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Go my ticket for Brooklyn!
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Looks like a new song debuting on a Sirius channel tomorrow morning @ 9:00
https://ghost-official.com/#
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I hope the Echo And The Bunnyman cover is "The Killing Moon"!
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https://www.childrenofghost.com/2016/09/12/stream-ghosts-new-song-square-hammer/
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This sounds like a Subvision song!
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Isn't it a bit too much to-the-point? I haven't heard a more predictable song in a while.
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Nothing special, but an ok tune. I am more excited about the covers.
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This sounds like a Subvision song!
My first thought exactly. Sounds like Scenario from So Far So Noire
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POPESTAR EP drops Friday.
01. Square Hammer
02. Nocturnal Me
03. I Believe
04. Missionary Man
05. Bible
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghost-first-popestar-ep-trailer/
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My fingers are crossed that they are covering Tears for Fears with "I Believe." That would be so interesting! There are probably many songs with that title, but seeing as how they've already covered Depeche Mode, Abba, and Army of Lovers, I think Tears for Fears would make sense. Plus, it's such a beautiful song.
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My fingers are crossed that they are covering Tears for Fears with "I Believe." That would be so interesting! There are probably many songs with that title, but seeing as how they've already covered Depeche Mode, Abba, and Army of Lovers, I think Tears for Fears would make sense. Plus, it's such a beautiful song.
"Nocturnal Me" – Echo and the Bunnymen
"I Believe" - Simian Mobile Disco
"Missionary Man" - Eurythmics
"Bible" - Imperiet
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Ooh I really like Square Hammer.
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New song is really a little too 'poppy' for my taste, but it's starting to grow on me. I'm glad they're finally releasing a 'deluxe' edition of Meliora with the ep and bonus track Zenith included.
Very curious which direction they will go with the next full album, though.
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Loved Popestar. Square Hammer is a cool song, nothing much, but the covers are really fun! Bible is my favorite, what a beautiful song! Missionary Man is awesome, too. :tup
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYA8FlfBd0
Video for Square Hammer
Notice that only 4 Nameless Ghouls appear with Papa in the video.
People on the Ghost Subreddit are speculating that Omega(Rhythm Guitarist) might be out of the band
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyYA8FlfBd0
Video for Square Hammer
Notice that only 4 Nameless Ghouls appear with Papa in the video.
People on the Ghost Subreddit are speculating that Omega(Rhythm Guitarist) might be out of the band
We'll know soon enough... First show of the tour is tonight.
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He was missing for a few dates earlier this year. They had Water(Bassist) cover on Rhythm guitar. But I heard that was due to Visa issues.
The video is different, they could have easily dressed up anybody in the Ghoul outfit just for the video. No one would know the difference. Makes me think something's up.
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Hopefully the video was just filmed while the visa issues were happening.
Fantastic EP though. Bunch of different flavors.
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Really hope not since Omega and Papa were the two main songwriters, and one of the other voices of the band in interviews and a funny guy.
We'll find out soon enough. I think it was Visa issues though. Great EP though! Really enjoyed Missionary Man.
Read that someone saw Omega at a Great Discord show and he said he would be back with them at some point, but gave no specifics
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Square Hammer is great! Haven't heard the rest.
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No big set list changes this time around. They opened with Square Hammer. No Omega and apparently have a female bass player now.
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What I'm guessing is that Omega is taking a cycle off...at least one of them has very young kids, and the constant touring has got to be a huge strain on the families. So, staying close to home, working on TID, getting personal life back on an even keel.
Also, have discovered TID as a result of this...like a more metal MCC, with black metal vocals (which I'm not a huge fan of, but they aren't terribly obtrusive).
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Oh yeah, I forgot that one of them had kids. There was an interview where one of his kids ran up to him. It was a written interview, but still funny.
T.I.D. is pretty good. Isn't essentially every member of Magna Carta Cartel except Tobias? I know Arvid Persner plays drums on the first Ghost album, but never toured with them.
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A snippet of Square Hammer played in the background while they were about to go to a commercial break during MNF last night.
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Well, it looks like Omega officially left the band and under bad circumstances apparently. He did an unmasked little blurb about Magna Carta Cartel coming back, which I'm excited about. It was weird to see him speak without a mask
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-ghost-member-publicly-identifies-himself-for-first-time/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-ghost-member-publicly-identifies-himself-for-first-time/)
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Too bad, though it kind of makes me wonder if the rumors about rotating line-ups have been true all along.
I'm seeing them in a month or so. Let's hope whatever new band will be playing is as good as the old line-up was. Though for all we know, this could be a big publicity stunt yet again.
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It is true that they rotate out members. The bass players have changed, the drummer changed. Martin and Papa and the other guitarist were the main people.
Martin was always one of my favorites in interviews. He was hilarious and always seemed really nice.
I think the firing the whole band thing this time around is a gimmick, but we'll see
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I miss the days where the identities of the Ghouls didn't matter and it was all about the music. But I guess all this attention is to be expected as their popularity has skyrocketed in the past few years. It's kinda ruined the mystery of the band for me :-\
On one hand, I'm a little disappointed. Meliora was such a strong album and I'd love to see another album featuring that lineup. On the other hand, the lineup has changed with every album so it shouldn't be a surprise. If Papa really writes all the music, then I guess it really doesn't matter.
I think this falls in line with the mythos of the band. In some past interviews they've mentioned that Papa IV will be the father of the previous three, and he's not too happy that they're spending less time spreading the word of Satan and more time on becoming "popstars" (hence the Popestar EP). So I guess he's in charge now and he's kicked out everybody else.
Assuming all that's true, I think we can expect the next album to be a bit darker.
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Someone has recorded System Of A Down's Chop Suey in the style of Ghost ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFqhPx8XXM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFqhPx8XXM)
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That Chop Suey cover is really creative :lol I like it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOXj7HeaajU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOXj7HeaajU)
It looks like there is truth to new Ghouls. The keyboard player is different (more keyboards and he sits down), drummer, and guitarists. I don't really care, but a few of the songs live sound off. Absolution, like I posted above, doesn't sound tight. If you look through some of the videos, a lot of comments seem to mention the fact that the band doesn't sound like it used to. I'm sure over the course of the next few shows things will sound better.
A better example would be Pinnacle to the Pit. That intro sounds off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXXH_8-8QIw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXXH_8-8QIw)
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Fuck my luck. The first time I buy a ticket to see them and they change the frigging line-up. :-\
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It'll still be well worth going. They are incapable of putting on a bad show. Even though some of the things I've seen don't seem up to par, it'll never be a bad show. Every time I've seen them it's been different people and I've never been let down
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BSGlO6ah_J6/
The new Air(Keyboardist) just mimes along to the keystar solo in Mummy Dust :\
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I thought it sounded too similar to the record :lol Old Air would do a different solo each night.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BSGlO6ah_J6/
The new Air(Keyboardist) just mimes along to the keystar solo in Mummy Dust :\
Aahw shit.
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I don't understand this band at all. I'll be seeing them when they open for Maiden this Summer and other than the gimmick I just don't see whats so great.
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Well, this is disappointing. I mean I enjoy Meliora, but am not a huge Ghost fan or anything, I just see the general attitude that led to this as disappointing. I mean it's kinda hard not to expect it when you call your band mates nameless ghouls, but to insist that you can change people and nothing is going to change is just silly.
Sometimes change is needed, and for the better, but just come out and say that then, don't bullshit me and tell me that you can fire an entire band, replace them, and in the end all that was to achieve... nothing.
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I'm not too thrilled about the drastic shifts in the line up. There's no way the style of the band won't be influenced by the change, but whether the quality of the music will be influenced is yet to be seen. Personally, I jumped on board a year after the release of Infestisumam and was really looking forward to Meliora, which I found to be their creative peak. Maybe that's what it will remain. And I wouldn't be disappointed.
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Ghost was never meant to be a permanent thing. I think I remember reading during the Infestissumum press tours that they have five albums planned out and that beyond that they didn't know, but that it wasn't gonna be career band. And like I've said before, they change members constantly, the guitarist and singer were the only constants. But now it's just the singer. They best band to me was the one they had at the beginning of the Meliora tour. Apparently he disagrees.
I'm excited though to see them, they've never put on a bad show and are fun to see.
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Yeah man, that band with Alpha and Omega and the new keyboardist in it was frigging Smokin'. The absolutely killed it during those first tours.
All must not have been well behind the scenes. Such a shame. Still going to see them on the 6th, though.
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Additional headlining U.S. dates have been announced
https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/posts/1475836779101780:0
[MESSAGE FROM THE CLERGY]
We wish to inform you that GHOST have announced additional headlining dates to take place this Summer during the band’s North American tour with Iron Maiden.
6/06 – Albany, NY – The Palace Theatre
6/08 – Norfolk, VA – The NorVa
6/10 – Atlanta, GA – Tabernacle
6/14 – Louisville, KY – The Palace Theater
6/17 – Fargo, ND – Fargo Civic Center
6/22 – Corpus Christi, TX – The Pavilion at Concrete Street
6/26 – Midland, TX – La Hacienda
6/30 – Fresno, CA – Rainbow Ballroom
7/13 – Indianapolis, IN – Egyptian Room at Old National Centre
7/14 – Fort Wayne, IN – Embassy Theater
7/18 – New Haven, CT – College Street Music Hall
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Well, this is disappointing. I mean I enjoy Meliora, but am not a huge Ghost fan or anything, I just see the general attitude that led to this as disappointing. I mean it's kinda hard not to expect it when you call your band mates nameless ghouls, but to insist that you can change people and nothing is going to change is just silly.
Sometimes change is needed, and for the better, but just come out and say that then, don't bullshit me and tell me that you can fire an entire band, replace them, and in the end all that was to achieve... nothing.
All of this sounds about right.
I think this falls in line with the mythos of the band. In some past interviews they've mentioned that Papa IV will be the father of the previous three, and he's not too happy that they're spending less time spreading the word of Satan and more time on becoming "popstars" (hence the Popestar EP).
Great premise, if true.
Also, what happened to the lead guitarist? He was the one that seemed to demonstrate some uniqueness. Good chops and a better ear.
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The lead or rhythm? Both were fantastic with songwriting and their tones.
Martin went and reformed Magna Carta Cartel which featured most of the original members of Ghost before they became Ghost
Simon is in a band called Priest I believe as well as Time Is Divine which also has Martin and the original Ghost drummer and I believe one of their old keyboard players as well. It's rumored that he is also going to be in Magna Carta Cartel, which he used to be in pre-Ghost as well.
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Lead guitarist. Always seemed to have some nicely melodic solos. I was just wondering if he was also gone, and apparently he is. Shame.
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Well, if you want to hear more of that go check out SubVision. It was another band that they had in the early to mid 2000s. It's the two guitarists from Ghost, including the lead guitarist that you like
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Both guitarists are gone, afaik. Alpha ánd Omega. Bassplayer was already gone and so is Air. From what I can see so far, the drummer seems to be the only one still in place. And Papa, off course.
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I don't really care about the line-up changes, to be honest :lol seeing them for the first time this thursday, and I just hope they put on a good show with a fun setlist.
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Guess I' ll see you there then. They always put on a good show.
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Former Ghouls Suing Ghost's Papa Emeritus :-\
https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=133952 (https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=133952)
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Fascinating. Seems that Tobias has been pulling the old George Lucas trick. "Sorry, Star Wars just hasn't turned a profit yet, but when it does you'll be the first to get paid."
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Former Ghouls Suing Ghost's Papa Emeritus :-\
https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=133952 (https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=133952)
Oh great :lol
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:lol
I really hope this isn't the downfall of Ghost.
Meanwhile, the new Magna Carta Cartel stuff sounds great!
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghostbc/comments/63noh5/more_news_comfirm_the_old_ghouls_were_fired/
According to a statement from the band members in the masked Swedish hard rock band Ghost it is hired musicians and not the original members themselves playing in the band's current tour.
The reason is the singer Papa Emeritus has forbidden them to participate. As Culture News earlier reported, four of the members of the acclaimed rock band Ghost has sued the band's lead singer for personally collecting the band's entire income for several years.
According to a statement from the band members in relation to the lawsuit that was sent to Kulturnyheterna last Wednesday it is not the original members who participate in the band's current UK tour - Papa Emeritus has hired stage musicians to play in the masked band.
Hired stage musicians The band members write that they, when they tried to deal with the contract situation in 2016, hired a legal assistance, and then received the news that the singer Papa Emeritus no longer wanted them to attend the upcoming tours.
Papa Emeritus then hired stage musicians in the name of the band name Ghost - something the other members of the statement describes as "our vocalist and former friend trying in a subtle and shamelessly way turn Ghost from a band to a" solo project "with hired musicians."
Kulturnyheterna has not reached Papa Emeritus, but he told the newspaper Corren his legal representatives to examine the mood, but he himself did not want to comment on it.
Opening for Iron Maiden Ghost is one of Sweden's most successful hard rock bands and will this summer be the opening act for Iron Maiden during their North American tour.
The group has since 2010 made about 500 concerts around the world, and in February they won a Grammy for best hard rock / metal.
It's not looking good. I already bought my ticket for the show in Norfolk but I'm seriously considering returning it,
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I wonder if Aksel, their old drummer is one of the people suing? I only wonder because The Great Discord is opening for Ghost later this month and their singer Fia Kempe sings on the Popestar EP. It would make for a weird situation. But I wonder if it's the members from the Meliora Tour are the people suing, minus Martin. Because Simon, Air, and Fire are the only others that I can think of that would sue. They change members so much, it's hard to keep track of.
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My understanding is that the drummer and bass player spots have been a revolving door, but the other 3 have remained constant through Meliora. Omega left before Popestar.
But I'm mostly a casual observer here; you'd probably know better.
And this is going to be a very interesting case to watch. I'm real curious what sort of business arrangement the band had. It seems to me that it'll be pretty hard for the ghouls to claim they were an integral part of the band's success if they wrote no music and played in anonymity as part of the gig. Geoff Tate or Peter Criss could both claim to be a recognizable part of the band's brand or image, but the ghouls are purposely indistinct.
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Well, there's probably more underneath the hood, but for those of us who are looking at the writing credits for each album, the tracks are attributed to "A Ghoul Writer" Who is this writer? Is it just Tobias or are there more names underneath the umbrella? Interesting to me at least is that on Meliora, the credits are A Ghoul Writer and Indio Marcato for some tracks. Indio appears to be a pseudonym for someone as there is absolutely nothing on the internet about this person and no other works. So who is that? So I'm guessing they'll get no writing royalties. The best I could see is them getting is some merch/tour royalties.
The keyboardist has been the same since late Opus Eponymous through Meliora. When Ghost started touring, the keyboardist was just piped in through the speakers, the guy onstage was just there for show. Then they got the keyboard player, who I think is Mauro Rubino, some old keyboard player that used to play in different prog bands in Sweden. But yeah, you're right it was Tobias, Omega, and Alpha as the only constants throughout the seven year period until now. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out
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Well, there's probably more underneath the hood, but for those of us who are looking at the writing credits for each album, the tracks are attributed to "A Ghoul Writer" Who is this writer? Is it just Tobias or are there more names underneath the umbrella? Interesting to me at least is that on Meliora, the credits are A Ghoul Writer and Indio Marcato for some tracks. Indio appears to be a pseudonym for someone as there is absolutely nothing on the internet about this person and no other works. So who is that? So I'm guessing they'll get no writing royalties. The best I could see is them getting is some merch/tour royalties.
The keyboardist has been the same since late Opus Eponymous through Meliora. When Ghost started touring, the keyboardist was just piped in through the speakers, the guy onstage was just there for show. Then they got the keyboard player, who I think is Mauro Rubino, some old keyboard player that used to play in different prog bands in Sweden. But yeah, you're right it was Tobias, Omega, and Alpha as the only constants throughout the seven year period until now. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out
Ghoul Writer is Tobias Forge(Papa) who supposedly writes most of the music and probably most, if not all of the lyrics. Martin Persner(former Omega) started writing more and was credited as Indio Marcato.
The rest of the Ghouls I would hope receive some kind of royalties and writing credits as I doubt Tobias wrote every single note and solo.
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Apparently Simon (Alpha) posted this on his FB page:
"As of yesterday we, four signatories from the band Ghost, have filed a lawsuit with the Linköping District Court. We are suing Tobias Forge (”Papa Emeritus”) – the band’s lead singer who has also been responsible for the finances of the band since its founding.
As of the filing of this lawsuit we are requesting that the court, under penalty, oblige Tobias Forge to declare the incomes as well as expenses of the band concerning the years between 2011 and 2016. Throughout all the years we have been on tour with Ghost (between 2011-2016 some of us have performed something like 500 shows with the band) and throughout the band’s album recordings, we have neither been allowed to share in the profits of the band, nor have we seen any of the incomes accounted for. The only thing we have received have been minimal advance payments to allow the band to keep going. This despite the fact that we had an agreement that any profits should be shared fairly between the members of the band. When we have attempted to raise the issue of the band’s finances with Tobias Forge his sole response has been that there are so far no profits to be share, but that everyone will be generously compensated once the band turns a profit. The reason that this lawsuit is now being filed is a contract dispute that has escalated during the previous year (2016). Over the last year we have received multiple proposed contracts from Tobias Forge in which he seeks to redefine his role in the band.
Since the conception of Ghost our common understanding and agreement has been that we are a band on equal terms, but that Tobias will act as band leader and manage the band’s finances through his own companies. Through contracts received from Tobias and his lawyers during 2016, Tobias has attempted to make us sign an agreement that implies we are merely consultants working for his company, an agreement also stating that we would receive less that a minimal wage for our contributions to the band. According to this proposal, furthermore we would renounce any and all rights to music royalties. All above despite the fact that some of us have been members of the band since its foundation, investing all of our time in the band during the past five years, with as much right to the recordings and trademark of the band Ghost as that of Tobias Forge. Out vocalist and former friend is now attempting to, in a underhand and shameless way, transform Ghost from a band into a solo project with hired musicians. Naturally this is not something we can accept. When, in connection with the 2016 United States tour, approached a lawyer in order to sort out the situation of the contracts, we were informed that Tobias Forge no longer wanted us to participate in upcoming tours. Thus, Tobias Forge is now going ahead with the tour, which started March 24 2017 and is set to end in the UK on August 12, on his own together with rented musicians who have replaced all other band members. Tobias Forge has chosen this path of action without any permission from us to carry out the tour on his own. This under the name Ghost, which we regard as our commonly owned trademark.
The actions of Tobias Forge amount to nothing less than unabashed dishonesty, greed, and darkness. Not the darkness of which Ghost sings, but a darkness that pushes a person to betray his best friends when fame and fortune appear within reach. We are terribly sorry that this afflicts the fans of the band as well, and that they too should suffer because of this betrayal and greed. <3
We who are suing Tobias Forge are:
Simon Söderberg (Alpha) – member of Ghost since 2010.
Mauro Rubino (Air) – member of Ghost since 2011.
Henrik Palm (Eather) – member of Ghost since 2015
Martin Hjertstedt (Earth) – member of Ghost since 2014
The Nameless Ghouls"
Interesting to note lack of Omega (Martin) or previous Water (Linton Rubino, Air's son, who seems to have a ax to grind).
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Oh wow
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Oh wow
Indeed.
If I had to guess, Omega provided a balance to TF (in writing and force of personality). With Omega gone, it went out of balance and TF started to see it as about himself, not a band.
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Let's see if they can keep a good live show and good new stuff.
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I already had little interest in seeing them open for Maiden, now looks like I can take my time getting to the show.
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Random question. I saw on a Blabbermouth article that the new Ghouls are rumored to have formerly played with xxx, xxx, Pendragon, xxx, etc. I assume it's a drummer (Scott Higham?), but does anyone who follows them more closely know what ex-Pendragon member might be involved?
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Random question. I saw on a Blabbermouth article that the new Ghouls are rumored to have formerly played with xxx, xxx, Pendragon, xxx, etc. I assume it's a drummer (Scott Higham?), but does anyone who follows them more closely know what ex-Pendragon member might be involved?
The Pendragon drummer has a pretty recognizable style of playing, which you also see with the new Ghoul. They both play open-handed with very exaggerated left hand movement. I'd put some money on it being the same dude.
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Here's the "official" identities, as figured out be the hive mind:
Fire: Ben Christo -
Aether: Chris Catalyst -
Water: Per "Sodomizer" Eriksson -
Earth: Jan-Vincent Velazco -
Air: Zac Baird -
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Im not really a fan, well I heard a couple songs and generally liked it, but the recent news and the facts that I was planning on seeing them on their tour with IM has me interested in what's going on. This guy sounds like he was keeping the finance information away from the rest of the band which is suspicious in itself since he kept saying they weren't profitable without proving that to anyone. It may be true, but maybe not. If he is truly doing what he is accused of, I have little interest in supporting him (the band).
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Here's the "official" identities, as figured out be the hive mind:
Fire: Ben Christo -
Aether: Chris Catalyst -
Water: Per "Sodomizer" Eriksson -
Earth: Jan-Vincent Velazco -
Air: Zac Baird -
Cool, thanks. Figures, the new drummer is one that I'm not at all familiar with, which puts me back at not knowing anyone again. :lol
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Here's the "official" identities, as figured out be the hive mind:
Fire: Ben Christo -
Aether: Chris Catalyst -
Water: Per "Sodomizer" Eriksson -
Earth: Jan-Vincent Velazco -
Air: Zac Baird -
How the hell do people figure out this sort of stuff?
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Here's the "official" identities, as figured out be the hive mind:
Fire: Ben Christo -
Aether: Chris Catalyst -
Water: Per "Sodomizer" Eriksson -
Earth: Jan-Vincent Velazco -
Air: Zac Baird -
How the hell do people figure out this sort of stuff?
The fans over at the Ghost subreddits are a rather...dedicated bunch.
https://www.reddit.com/r/papa_and_ghouls/comments/61cjgj/the_hunt_is_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/papa_and_ghouls/comments/633k93/spoiler_the_new_ghouls_are/
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I don't like the band, but I fully stand by the former band members if what they are saying is true. Big dick move on the part of Papa Emeritus
Now normally, I would just read about it and move on, but I have to see ghost as an opening act for Maiden, so I am getting a little more invested than I normally would.
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This guy on the subreddit has a copy of the lawsuit and is posting details about it.
I would call bullshit but this is too detailed to just make up.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghostbc/comments/63u2zy/the_lawsuit_against_papa/
It confirms the lineup changes throughout the years. The female bassist that joined them for the second US tour last year was Megan Thomas from Lez Zeppelin.
Apparently Mauro Rubino(Air) didn't even play on If You Have Ghost, Meliora, or Popestar.
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I'm wholly on the Ghoul's side here, but they sure don't seem to have done themselves any favors. It's looking more and more like TF has spent the last 6 years dotting his Is and crossing his Ts while the other guys have been waiting to see how it all works out. And the international aspect of this can't help them much, either. While they're suing him in Sweden he's been stashing his money in American corporations that he created.
With that said, there's no reason to think this doesn't end like damn near every other band breakup lawsuit, with a nice settlement in exchange for the name.
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Bit of a bummer to see it all go down this way, especially for a band shrouded in such mystery and mysticism.
"We are creatures of the night, we are nameless ghouls lead by an unholy pope... no wait, here's our names, our band leader acts like a dick". Ouch.
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I'm just wondering what the end is going to look like. At the end, it seems like they get their money and Ghost continues on as a solo project with hired musicians just as it is now. Or do they go back to the band? I don't see that happening.
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I'm just wondering what the end is going to look like. At the end, it seems like they get their money and Ghost continues on as a solo project with hired musicians just as it is now. Or do they go back to the band? I don't see that happening.
Without knowing much, I see "going back to the band" as a less than 1% chance happening.
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Well, they're called 'Nameless Ghouls' for a reason. And they still put on a great song. It's sad to see the financial side of things suck, but line-up changes has been nothing new to this band. Also getting a bit sick of all the negativity towards 'Tobias' all of a sudden.
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Well it kind of sounds like he screwed over a lot of people, so I understand the negativity. None of it really changes Ghost for me, I'm still pumped to see them live in June and look forward to the next album. And I've known the identities for quite some time now, so knowing who they are doesn't change it for me. It's just an interesting turn of events
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Well, they're called 'Nameless Ghouls' for a reason. And they still put on a great song. It's sad to see the financial side of things suck, but line-up changes has been nothing new to this band. Also getting a bit sick of all the negativity towards 'Tobias' all of a sudden.
I'm torn. Clearly Tobias was the main driving force from the beginning so I will not boycott Ghost but at the same time it is a bit disappointing how this went down. Songs like He Is have such cool elements and that were added by the two guitarists so it isn't going to be the same.
If the music is good, then I'll continue to support them. I do feel like my fandom might have minimized a bit.
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If anyone is interested Martin's band Magna Carta Cartel released their EP today. It's quite good and follows the theme of the band.
MCC (Magna Carta Cartel)--The Demon King
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If anyone is interested Martin's band Magna Carta Cartel released their EP today. It's quite good and follows the theme of the band.
MCC (Magna Carta Cartel)--The Demon King
Got it today (for some reason the singles are on Amazon but the EP isn't). Really enjoying it.
Related, the new album form The Great Discord is dropping soon, and if the lead single is any indication, it will be an absolute monster.
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If anyone is interested Martin's band Magna Carta Cartel released their EP today. It's quite good and follows the theme of the band.
MCC (Magna Carta Cartel)--The Demon King
Got it today (for some reason the singles are on Amazon but the EP isn't). Really enjoying it.
Related, the new album form The Great Discord is dropping soon, and if the lead single is any indication, it will be an absolute monster.
Yeah, that MCC EP is fantastic. Really love the title track and Turn.
Also, thanks for the heads up on the new single from The Great Discord! That track sounds INSANE.
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Made myself a youtube playlist for thier 8 song setlist as the opener for Iron Maiden. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGujo2HcqUJ0ft28izviWux0 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGujo2HcqUJ0ft28izviWux0) and kind of digging the tunes (and music videos).
Apparently there's been another change with the drummer for this tour.
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Uncensored Year Zero video is so random.
And yeah, the drummer change was noticeable. I don't like the way he plays Absolution, but other than that he's pretty good. I'll always miss Martin Hjerstadt though. He was great and energetic
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Made myself a youtube playlist for thier 8 song setlist as the opener for Iron Maiden. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGujo2HcqUJ0ft28izviWux0 (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8Xat1WaNEGujo2HcqUJ0ft28izviWux0) and kind of digging the tunes (and music videos).
Apparently there's been another change with the drummer for this tour.
Never checked them out but I was watching some of their sets from Bristow and Philly. They look awesome!!
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Continuing to watch their performances opening for Maiden. The bass player is a great showman.
And I love Square Hammer and Cirice. The rest is meh.
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Well, I am now torn.
Didn't have a lot of interest in them until seeing them open for maiden. Cirice is sooo damn addictive and I can't help but really enjoy Papa's schtick.
Definitely don't approve of the behind the scenes bullshit though.
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They were pretty solid live. Honestly didn't think they'd sound so tight being mostly new band members, but yea that bassist is pretty sick with his stage presence. The whole band was pretty rocking.
Ghost - From the Pinnacle to the Pits Live Prudential Center (https://youtu.be/SJwZg4q37Xw)
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I take back whatever I've said about the new Ghouls. They look like they're having so much fun and they kick ass. I miss Simon, Martin, and Hendrick, but these guys are great.
Here's Zombie Queen from a few weeks back. Skip ahead to 6:20. When the Ghouls line up behind each other and Papa does the double take and goes to hide but comes back :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvCQBJkXom0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvCQBJkXom0)
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I've really enjoyed these summer clips. The whole band is interesting, especially the ghouls. I've never heard a note of Ghost before this tour, but as currently constituted, this is a great live band.
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New music video for He Is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hMaHDTw-pI
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I really dig this song. I wish they played it during the tour with Iron Maiden.
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Bring on the virgins!
The song is OK. honestly, this isn't a band I'm likely to get into. The touring band he had was awesome. If there were some consistency with the members, that'd be one thing. But he is so unoriginal. Alice Cooper still kills him.
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I'm guessing Papa IV is getting close to be introduced....
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Bring on the virgins!
The song is OK. honestly, this isn't a band I'm likely to get into. The touring band he had was awesome. If there were some consistency with the members, that'd be one thing. But he is so unoriginal. Alice Cooper still kills him.
But... but... if you love the females orgasms!
(When I saw them open for Maiden, the band was good, the music was better than noise - and that's a compliment, as I was clearly there to see Maiden, and not initially interested in a bunch of clowns in masks going by the name "Nameless Ghoul No. x" - but I got a tremendous chuckle about his version of lathering up the crowd!)
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I enjoyed them live. It's funny and unique to see a band with these rock tunes that are very catchy singing about Satan.
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It was still just so weird to see them in an arena. It works great in a small/mid size venue, but it was just a very different experience in the huge venue, and I didn't feel like it worked very well, and I could understand some of the skepticism if that's someone's first experience with them.
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New Papa is here:
https://www.metalinjection.net/upcoming-releases/ghost-reveal-creepy-papa-emeritus-zero-who-warns-the-middle-ages-have-begun
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I think Tobias said that Ghost IV is gonna be darker than the rest. Gone is the glitzy, young party that Papa III brought. It’ll be interesting to see what Papa IV is like. Papa I was an old guy too. This isn’t the new Papa though, is it?
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Papa III is done. I think within the mythos of the band, Papa 0 is a higher-up in the satanic church who's just there to announce that III is done. The actual Papa IV will definitely be introduced at the next gig.
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I hope he keeps the band that he has right now, these guys rock.
Looking forward to April now, which is when the album is supposed to come out. If past cycles hold true, we should get a single around February or so
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That was terrifying. :lol
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Huh so I guess we assume Tobias is still in the band and just a change of persona? In my imagination I hope that the band is actually the previous guys that got kicked out under the masks and that Tobias really got dragged out from the stage, now that would be something else. :lol
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That was actually pretty creepy.
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Huh so I guess we assume Tobias is still in the band and just a change of persona?
Yeah, this is what they do - during a show, there is a changing of the pope. I like that - it has a theatrical element to it, and it's neat that there are two "Papa's" on stage at once.
Here's a video from 2012 where Papa Emeritus I was replaced by Papa Emeritus II. I says his goodbyes and then II (in black) is handed the microphone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm0Y0awVExo
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It was still just so weird to see them in an arena. It works great in a small/mid size venue, but it was just a very different experience in the huge venue, and I didn't feel like it worked very well, and I could understand some of the skepticism if that's someone's first experience with them.
This tour was my first experience with Ghost. After watching clips, and then seeing them, they commanded the big stage. They were excellent. I wasn't in love with every song played, but the performance and showmanship from the BAND was fantastic.
I hope he keeps the band that he has right now, these guys rock.
I really liked the personality of the guys on stage. If it's a whole new group of guys, I will not be interested, but if it's THIS band, then I will definitely check it out.
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Papa III is done. I think within the mythos of the band, Papa 0 is a higher-up in the satanic church who's just there to announce that III is done. The actual Papa IV will definitely be introduced at the next gig.
Nah, I remember reading a few months ago that the next Papa was going to be the dad of Papas I to III and that he was pissed off at how III had drifted off from worshipping Satan and had been more interested in being a popstar. :lol And now he's here to "set things right," so to speak.
So yeah, I'm pretty sure this upcoming album cycle will indeed center around Papa 0.
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Papa III is done. I think within the mythos of the band, Papa 0 is a higher-up in the satanic church who's just there to announce that III is done. The actual Papa IV will definitely be introduced at the next gig.
Nah, I remember reading a few months ago that the next Papa was going to be the dad of Papas I to III and that he was pissed off at how III had drifted off from worshipping Satan and had been more interested in being a popstar. :lol And now he's here to "set things right," so to speak.
So yeah, I'm pretty sure this upcoming album cycle will indeed center around Papa 0.
That is true, but I don't think Papa 0 is their father. Maybe their grandfather.
After having such a lively frontman for the past few years, I doubt they'd replace him with this old guy character who can't even walk without help.
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Yeah, and their live show keeps ramping up and filled with energy and the ghouls as well, although that's just the current members. No way they go back to older Papa I-like frontman.
It's actually amazing how each Papa is so different personality-wise, each is pretty distinct. Papa I was a bit older, had more of a mysterious personality, Papa II was professional and very ritualistic, and Papa III was the life of the party, although this was hinted at with Papa Emeritus II (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_8UNS8ferE) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_8UNS8ferE)) I will miss the mannerisms of Papa III, the shows were filled with energy.
Speaking of that, they went all out with Pyro at the end of Year Zero in Sweden the other night
Starting at the 4:00 mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zss7PwBNhCc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zss7PwBNhCc)
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Was oblivious to this band till Tomislav95 gave me Square Hammer in my Roulette. I am now intrigued and fascinated by these guys, their music, and their persona.
Speaking of that, they went all out with Pyro at the end of Year Zero in Sweden the other night
Amateurs.
-Great White
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:lol
Too soon
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A couple of my friends attended the gigs in Sweden. After watching the footage, I'm super jealous.
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New live album just released. "Ceremony and Devotion". It's up on iTunes, Spotify, etc.
Digital only for now, but I assume it'll get a physical release soon.
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It's nice to have a live version of Ritual finally. Thankfully too, they recorded on a night where it was the last song of the set, so we get the extended outro
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Its not up here yet. Whats the tracklist?
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The iTunes version I downloaded is:
1. Square Hammer
2. From the Pinnacle to the Pit
3. Con Clavi Con Dio
4. Per Aspera Ad Inferi
5. Body and Blood
6. Devil Church
7. Cirice
8. Ghuleh/Zombie Queen
9. Year Zero
10. Spöksonat
11. He Is
12. Mummy Dust
13. Absolution
14. Ritual
15. Monstrance Clock
But, the actual CD version listed on the website has a different tracklisting:
https://bodega.lomavistarecordings.com/collections/ghost/products/ghost-ceremony-and-devotion-cd
Also, no DVD/Blu-Ray? :huh: Weird. A live album is cool, but this is a show that needs to be seen and heard.
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I had to type in Ceremony and Devotion in iTunes to find it, it didn't show up on their main page
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Bummed no video release, even the music video for Absolution Live is just pictures not an actual video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQwIDYF35ao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQwIDYF35ao)
Oh well, I'm not a big enough fan to purchase the CD, but I would have bought a blu-ray.
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Just discovered this band recently. They better hit the PNW on their next tour. They are on the top of my Bands I Have To See Live list.
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I've come to the conclusion that Square Hammer is their best song ever.
Listening to the stream of the live album now.
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After a friend sent me the links of He Is and Square Hammer, both of which I liked a lot, I took the plunge and bought Meliora. Let's see where this goes. :coolio
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Kev, someone (sorry I forgot who you are) gave me Square Hammer on my Roulette and while Ghost wasn't the best new band I was introduced to, it was the best song submission I received for the whole game. I have been enjoying Meloria much more than their other two albums. Looking forward to your thoughts.
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I am almost halfway through Meloria.
I loved From the Pinnacle to the Pit and Circle.
Spirit and Spöksonat both sounded solid, but didn't grab me like the others yet.
That hook in He Is is just fantastic.
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Nice way to be introduced to the best new metal act. :tup
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New? They have been around for 10 years.
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The first album came out in 2010. To me, that's fairly new.
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Nothing Ghost had done really got me excited when I dropped the needle over the last few albums, but I was so impressed with this 2017 band this summer, that I have preordered the new live CD.
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Ghost is just special for me because I caught them when they played at a dingy bar here in Minnesota back in 2011(?), and then they opened for Mastodon and Opeth a year later in a somewhat better venue then they did their own headline show at Mill City Nights and then at the same venue they opened for Mastodon/Opeth at and when they opened for Maiden at the Xcel Energy Center this past summer. So I've seen them when they were a nothing band playing for less than 300 people to playing venues that hold over 2000 and playing to a mostly full arena of 13,000 people. It's been fun to watch them grow.
Internal drama aside, they are a fun band to watch and Tobias' 2017 band was phenomenal. Hopefully he holds onto them, although may be tough since one is the drummer in AWOLnation another is the Bloodbath guitarist (I think).
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Ghost is just special for me because I caught them when they played at a dingy bar here in Minnesota back in 2011(?), and then they opened for Mastodon and Opeth a year later in a somewhat better venue then they did their own headline show at Mill City Nights and then at the same venue they opened for Mastodon/Opeth at and when they opened for Maiden at the Xcel Energy Center this past summer. So I've seen them when they were a nothing band playing for less than 300 people to playing venues that hold over 2000 and playing to a mostly full arena of 13,000 people. It's been fun to watch them grow.
Internal drama aside, they are a fun band to watch and Tobias' 2017 band was phenomenal. Hopefully he holds onto them, although may be tough since one is the drummer in AWOLnation another is the Bloodbath guitarist (I think).
I had a similar experience. Saw Ghost in a packed club in Chicago. Made it right up front. Sold an extra ticket I had for more money than it was worth (only time I have ever done that and didn't charge more than 10 bucks more but money was tight at the time). It happened to be a show that Martin Persner had to sit out because of the flu. I later talked with him about it on his last tour before he quit Ghost.
Each tour saw them play bigger and bigger venues. One I was stuck in the last row of the balcony because the place was so packed but it ended up being amazing.
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I too saw them fill larger venues as time went on. During their last tour they managed to fill a major venue over here. A group of mainstream metal fans next to me spent the whole evening screaming louder than the music and spilling beer over themselves and me.
I think I'm done with Ghost concerts.
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Bumping with some info about the upcoming album, and even some song titles ('Rats', 'Dance Macabre', and 'Life Eternal').
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/tobias_forge_what_to_expect_from_the_next_ghost_album.html
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So we'll have a disco track on the new album.
I'm wondering what Latin album title we'll have next!
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I think those 'titles' are bogus/fake. They seem too cliché to be true for me.
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With the exception of Dance Macabre, I agree.
Although, as someone noted over on their Reddit, a guy who has been transcribing all of the legal documents coming out of Sweden involving the band, this is the first album where it's solely Tobias heading everything, so maybe those titles are more his style :lol. Previous albums all had the input of the other members, namely Alpha and Omega. As a side note, Square Hammer was written prior to Meliora.
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With the exception of Dance Macabre, I agree.
Although, as someone noted over on their Reddit, a guy who has been transcribing all of the legal documents coming out of Sweden involving the band, this is the first album where it's solely Tobias heading everything, so maybe those titles are more his style :lol. Previous albums all had the input of the other members, namely Alpha and Omega. As a side note, Square Hammer was written prior to Meliora.
Tobias was considering naming the second album "The Sound of Doom to Come" according to those emails and the rest of the band was like, "Dude, that's pretty terrible" so yeah, Tobias has a weird style
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:lol
Those emails are kind of funny to read. Martin had a email thread where he was talking about his disdain for cheesy merchandise and not wanting to become Slipknot, shitty music but good merch. He’s a funny guy. I think in the same one he weighs whether it’s better to fart in their mouths or step on their toes relating to merch. Or at least that’s what I remember reading.
The Sound of Doom to Come emails were funny.
“The working titles for the next album are Infestissumam and TSoDtC.”
“Management and Band: “Please not The Sound of Doom to Come!”
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Speaking of Martin, first MCC show last night (at an event that also featured Priest, Henke Palm and The Great Discord):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x49hskAEZ6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZVy7T5sT8M
This Time
Sunsettlers
Turn
Dollhouse Decoration
Sway
The Demon King
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Things are happening in Ghost Land. They changed their social media images to all red on Friday and yesterday changed everything to black. With that change, they also announced a US tour starting in May and our first glimpse at Papa IV (I think). The shows are being billed as "An Evening With Ghost" I assume this means the album will be released in April
(https://loudwire.com/files/2018/02/unnamed-19.jpg?w=630&h=1059&q=75)
Rats! On The Road 2018
May 05 - Riverside, Calif. @ RMA
May 06 - Tucson, Ariz. @ Tucson Music Hall
May 08 - Houston, Texas @ Revention
May 10 - Chattanooga, Tenn. @ Tivoli
May 11 - Cincinnati, Ohio @ The Taft Theatre
May 12 - Detroit, Mich. @ The Fillmore
May 13 - Columbus, Ohio @ Express Live
May 15 - Port Chester, N.Y. @ The Capitol Theatre
May 16 - Syracuse, N.Y. @ Crouse Hinds Theater
May 18 - Pittsburgh, Pa. @ Benedum Center
May 19 - Philadelphia, Pa. @ WMMR BBQ
May 20 - Washington, D.C. @ Warner Theatre
May 22 - Asheville, N.C. @ Thomas Wolfe Auditorium
May 23 - Nashville, Tenn. @ Tennessee PAC
May 25 - St. Louis, Mo. @ Peabody Opera House
May 26 - Pryor, Okla. @ Rocklahoma
May 27 - Memphis, Tenn. @ Cannon Center
May 29 - Ft. Wayne, Ind. @ The Clyde Theater
May 31 - Milwaukee, Wis. @ Riverside Theater
June 01 - St. Paul, Minn. @ The Palace Theater
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The VIP package gives us a bit more info.
"PapaNil and his newly anointed protégé"
(https://i.imgur.com/Xrcl7za.jpg)
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Interesting. I don't know what to make of it except maybe Papa Nil is that old guy from their last show and the protege is the guy on the poster.
I had read awhile back that Ghost was auditioning female backup singers for the record and tour as well, and Tobias said in the interview that they are going to be more theatrical then ever before. The tour dates seem to be in theaters as well, some bigger than they played before.
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Goddamn nothing within 1000 miles of Seattle.
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I've got my meet and greet ticket for Port Chester! Cost a pretty penny though.
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New album will probably be announced tomorrow.
ha nevermind
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=JKZ1yrenbIQ
New Papa is imminent
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Wwll that's... the strangest promotional clip for a band I've ever seen.
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I really hope that instrumental piece at the end is on the album because they've used it a few different times in other press videos for the new cycle and it sounds really cool.
Hopefully we get a single tomorrow
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And we have the newest leader
A Cardinal!
(https://scontent.ffcm1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29793487_1867777406574380_1669092454990546579_n.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=61573f99b2dd12c3ecabe417cc67738a&oe=5B2B7C12)
The video of his reveal
https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/videos/1867772329908221/ (https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/videos/1867772329908221/)
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Welcome aboard, Cardinal!
What an interesting way to do something unpredictable. :metal
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And we have the newest leader
A Cardinal!
(https://scontent.ffcm1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29793487_1867777406574380_1669092454990546579_n.png?_nc_cat=0&oh=61573f99b2dd12c3ecabe417cc67738a&oe=5B2B7C12)
The video of his reveal
https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/videos/1867772329908221/ (https://www.facebook.com/thebandghost/videos/1867772329908221/)
Why is he 40 years older in this picture than the guy who will be performing?
In any case, I'm more interested in the Ghouls. Presumably they'll be different too, and those last masks will be hard to top.
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They have a new mission now.
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I imagine the Ghouls may have Plague doctor masks since the theme of the album is the plague. I’m just guessing.
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I haven't followed Ghost until seeing them open for Iron Maiden 3 times last year, and this is the first time seeing such videos and the changing of Papa. I find it all really odd, yet kind of intriguing. I've never been a fan of their gimmick (but found the music to be pretty solid), but this has been the first time I've been interested in kind of like, I guess you can say, the story of the band.
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Sloppy, but it's great to hear a ghoul actually sing the background vocals. I hate backing tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=26&v=QH3FNGvGpBs
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That's my favorite Ghost song.
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Any deep or particular reason why they downgraded from a pope to a cardinal? and since we're at it, why Papa Emeritus III was shown with three different looks anyway? (classic pope outfit, bald man with glasses and younger stylish dude with face paint and longish hair?)
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The Meet and Greet info (shown in an previous post) refers to PapaNil's "Protege", which is Cardinal Copia. I think this first leg of the Rats on the Road tour will be him as a Papa in Training with him becoming Papa IV later on.
There's a subreddit for the lawsuit that's still going on (Former Ghouls vs Tobias Forge) and it was mentioned somewhere that Tobias didn't create the Papa Emeritus character so that might have something to do with it.
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Any deep or particular reason why they downgraded from a pope to a cardinal? and since we're at it, why Papa Emeritus III was shown with three different looks anyway? (classic pope outfit, bald man with glasses and younger stylish dude with face paint and longish hair?)
Bald man with glasses was Papa Emeritus II in street clothes. The long hair facepaint is Papa Emeritus III out of his pope costume.
I was thinking the same thing that the lawsuit may have to do with a Cardinal becoming the singer.
Anyways, they did a secret acoustic show in Chicago last night and played three songs including Rats and they had an album listening party. Apparently Rats is a real solid rocker that is meant to get an arena of 80,000 people on their feet moving.
Here's a video of Cirice. Apparently the Ghouls will provide backing vocals now. I really hope they have a costume change, although this video would indicate no.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH3FNGvGpBs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH3FNGvGpBs)
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There's a subreddit for the lawsuit that's still going on (Former Ghouls vs Tobias Forge) and it was mentioned somewhere that Tobias didn't create the Papa Emeritus character so that might have something to do with it.
It would be a shame if this was the reason for the change. I thought Tobias just wanted to shake things up and do something different. Papa Emeritus IV would have been predictable either way, they might as well try to surprise people.
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Any deep or particular reason why they downgraded from a pope to a cardinal? and since we're at it, why Papa Emeritus III was shown with three different looks anyway? (classic pope outfit, bald man with glasses and younger stylish dude with face paint and longish hair?)
Bald man with glasses was Papa Emeritus II in street clothes. The long hair facepaint is Papa Emeritus III out of his pope costume.
I was thinking the same thing that the lawsuit may have to do with a Cardinal becoming the singer.
Ah ok, thanks.
It would be a pity if they had to change things up only because of a lawsuit. I get that maybe the whole "each new album there's a new pope" thing may be tiring, but hey, Kiss are still here after 40 years of wearing the same face paint. If the whole Ghost thing is having their mascot as an actual singer and the mascot is a "dark pope", to me they can as well stick to it.
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A brief snippet of a new song "Rats"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDPl7q69vTM&feature=youtu.be
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Nice!
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(https://i.redditmedia.com/QUO1g_6z1mK7-qwmpmbt7D3P_BOPxjVg36u39w3GRRE.jpg?w=800&s=6ff8db80557d060775495f6b96247015)
Another one of those snippet videos had the album artwork, or at least we think. The artist that did the other albums, Zbigniew M. Bielak, posted on his instagram a snippet of "new art" he was working on that showed the crosses in lower right. Quite a departure from the past few, but still very cool.
And in case anyone is like me and wonders where the inspiration for the cover came from, as all of their other album covers are based off of some other piece of art (i.e. Opus=Salem's Lot---Infestissumam=Amadeus---Meliora=Metropolis). This one seems to be based off of a Sepultura EP
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2c/Bestial_devastation.jpg)
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I haven't followed Ghost until seeing them open for Iron Maiden 3 times last year, and this is the first time seeing such videos and the changing of Papa. I find it all really odd, yet kind of intriguing. I've never been a fan of their gimmick (but found the music to be pretty solid), but this has been the first time I've been interested in kind of like, I guess you can say, the story of the band.
Kinda with Cram on this one as well. I wasn't blown away by the act - and by the way, anyone that says "Tobias is an odd guy", well, you just have to hear his stage rap to know that; what was he talking about, "female genitalia" at the Maiden show? - but it wasn't bad, and it's sort of interesting the "theater of the mind" side of this (Bruce Dickinson's thing).
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I haven't followed Ghost until seeing them open for Iron Maiden 3 times last year, and this is the first time seeing such videos and the changing of Papa. I find it all really odd, yet kind of intriguing. I've never been a fan of their gimmick (but found the music to be pretty solid), but this has been the first time I've been interested in kind of like, I guess you can say, the story of the band.
Kinda with Cram on this one as well. I wasn't blown away by the act - and by the way, anyone that says "Tobias is an odd guy", well, you just have to hear his stage rap to know that; what was he talking about, "female genitalia" at the Maiden show? - but it wasn't bad, and it's sort of interesting the "theater of the mind" side of this (Bruce Dickinson's thing).
The nature of the banter has changed with each version of Papa (and even between Meliora & Popestar-era Papa), as each is a different character. I didn't care for Popestar-era Papa, but I understand the logic in the arc towards the "crackdown" from PapaNil.
I'm a bit concerned that there could be some jumping of the shark with Ghost, now that the old Ghouls (MP in particular) aren't around to counter-balance TF. It's interesting how much of the vibe and visuals were MP.
Regarding the Papa Emeritus character being off-limits, that is not a subject of the lawsuit, it's something that has come up in parallel, without any legal action around it, so I don't see anything that should stop him from continuing as-is.
I was thinking the other day, how much good music I've found via the Ghost family tree, it's probably a good 1/3 of what I've been listening to recently:
-Magna Cartal Cartel (MP, SS, TF, though now just MP)
-TID (MP, SS)
-Subvision (TF, SS, MP)
-The Great Discord (AH, plus Fia Kempe)
-pg.lost (MH, plus one of the guitarists from TGD)
-Dead Soul (Niels Nielsen, a.k.a. "Cowbell Ghoul", who was both their tour manager and one of their recording engineers)
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New song is here
https://streamable.com/ym0m3
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Good, but the chorus sounds too familiar to me. Also I can’t believe they didn’t make the last riff a bigger part of the song.
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I’m reserving judgement until it’s not a radio stream. I think it sounds really cool though. The harpsichord at the end and guitar are Spoksonat from Meliora.
Also I hope the drum solo at the start is longer.
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The harpsichord at the end and guitar are Spoksonat from Meliora.
Wow it sounds much better as a guitar riff for sure.
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Rats! Music video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ijc7A5oAc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ijc7A5oAc)
(https://i.redd.it/857vao72zkr01.jpg)
PREQUELLE
June 1st 2018
Tracklisting
1. Ashes
2. Rats
3. Faith
4. See The Light
5. Miasma
6. Dance Macabre
7. Pro Memoria
8. Witch Image
9. Helvetesfonster
10. Life Eternal
Chances are, if you thought Papa III was too showy, you aren't gonna like the cardinal judging from his dance moves in the video. The album comes out on the day of the show I'm going to in Minnesota. I wonder if something is gonna happen
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Holy shit!!
Also check the song lengths here: https://uklomavistarecordings.ochre.store/release/98541-ghost-prequelle
SOme of the longest tracks they have done, including a 17-minute(???) track
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Awesome! And June is just around the corner, I was dreading a fall release.
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The titles gives a vague idea of an historical concept album. Maybe it won't be, but I won't be too surprised if it's actually a concept.
And maybe the 17 minutes track has 10 minutes of atmospheric ambient sounds, let's hope not :lol
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The track lengths on that link are completely different from the ones I'm seeing on the iTunes page for the album, save for "Rats."
Track lengths are:
1. Ashes - 1:21
2. Rats - 4:21
3. Faith - 4:29
4. See the Light - 4:05
5. Miasma - 5:17
6. Dance Macabre - 3:39
7. Pro Memoria - 5:59
8. Witch Image - 3:30
9. Helvetesfonster - 5:55
10. Life Eternal - 3:27
So yeah, longest track is just shy of being six minutes long. Still, not bad imo! I'm excited to hear the whole album, as I'm really digging Rats so far! Reminds me a bit of old school Ozzy. :metal
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Rats is a pretty great song. This is one of the more exciting albums coming out this year. :metal
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Yea, I like that track, looking forward to the record.
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Song is solid but that dancing :lol
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Song is solid but that dancing :lol
This.
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That's one of the most badass album covers I've seen in a long time.
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There's a lot of detail if you zoom in on it. Little nuances like the boils on Cardinal Copia's face. It's all so cool. I ordered the deluxe edition of the album, so I'll get it on cassette, vinyl, and 8-track. Looking forward to looking at that album cover on a 12x12 and the big poster.
Also, we've got a female Ghoul mask now. And Cardinal Copia is also a mob boss?
(https://i.redditmedia.com/IHXJuTmkz2XaLuUGJ7o4ZFW-b9AdbUHX1eiAoNAFTXE.jpg?w=1024&s=32cdb30e2faf0e0d91a3c81a10dfc321)
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Shouldn't there be five of them?
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Rats is not bad. Not bad at all.
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Shouldn't there be five of them?
The video only has three, even...
Things seem to be pointing to this being an interim arrangement, the last day of this tour is the day the album drops, and there's been repeated stuff from TF about how the next Papa will have to ear his skull makeup. So CC will maybe become papa IV at the 6/1 show, and look like the dud on the album cover?
Note the flaming wreckage of the Meliora album cover in the mouth of the center rat.
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Shouldn't there be five of them?
The video only has three, even...
Does any of this even matter regarding the ghouls? Just seems Ghost really means nothing towards the "band", but maybe I am wrong or maybe this is in reference to the lore of Ghost.
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This is all very confusing. : )
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Good, but the chorus sounds too familiar to me.
The chorus reminds me of Poison by Alice Cooper. :lol Good song nevertheless and I think the dance moves are just fine. Ghost don't take themselves too seriously, which is nice.
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His whole schtick reminds me of Alice Cooper.
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Ghost seems to be more miss than hit for me, but I'm really enjoying the new song.
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His whole schtick reminds me of Alice Cooper.
I know it's still the honeymoon phase for me, but if that's the comparison, then Alice Cooper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghost. I'm not bagging on Ghost - they entertained me when I saw them, at least up until the biology lesson - but I just connect more with Alice, especially the Alice Cooper Band material.
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Really diggin the new song. :tup
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His whole schtick reminds me of Alice Cooper.
I know it's still the honeymoon phase for me, but if that's the comparison, then Alice Cooper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ghost. I'm not bagging on Ghost - they entertained me when I saw them, at least up until the biology lesson - but I just connect more with Alice, especially the Alice Cooper Band material.
No comparisons at all. I enjoy AC and Ghost. But don't see the relation.
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So they are playing two arena shows in the US, including Barclays Center in Brooklyn. I've got to ask, why? They opened for Iron Maiden at Barclays last summer and the place was half empty for them, in one year, they will now be able to sell the tickets? I'll be shocked, but good for them for trying and if they can pull it off. Maybe if the new album is good and things work out, I'll make the trip to Brooklyn, but they are playing in NY soon for their tour and I can't say I'm too interested to drive the 1.5 hours to see it.
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghost-announces-arena-shows-for-new-york-los-angeles-blabbermouth-net-presale-available/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghost-announces-arena-shows-for-new-york-los-angeles-blabbermouth-net-presale-available/)
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https://youtu.be/7tm6bhXE5mQ (https://youtu.be/7tm6bhXE5mQ)
The other Papa’s have all been killed and will be resting in state during the new tour and you can visit their caskets at the shows with the VIP pass
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeYEVUnSf2Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeYEVUnSf2Y) Dance Macabre Live at The Roxy
Definitely see the disco vibe TF was talking about. Another song that will definitely alienate some people. Never expected to see a chorus from Ghost go: "Follow me, I want to be with you all night" or "There's this feeling when you kiss me" Although, since the song is about people dying from the plague and partying in taverns, it makes sense. This song is gonna be so much fun to see live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pLFwP0n2k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pLFwP0n2k) Faith
Another one that is going to be a great one to see live. Sounds like their heaviest song
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Faith is a good song. Don't care for the disco tune, though. The ghouls don't seem nearly as tight as they were, but the overall product is a much better live performance. These warmup shows have a "live" fell to them that the last tour lacked. Seems more like a rock concert than a performance. No idea why they need 3 guitarists, though.
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Wasn't Infestissumam already heavily influenced by disco? Why should it alienate people now?
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Wasn't the disco influence already obvious with songs like Satan's prayer and Stand by him? That was the first album, mind you. Many people including myself were attracted to Ghost because of their flirting with pop, disco or whichever unconventional influences. That's what makes them so much fun.
I haven't checked the live footage of the two songs, though. I'm waiting for the album. :metal
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Well exactly. Ghost has always had the four on the floor feel, Year Zero, Stand By Him, Satan Prayer, etc. I’ve always loved it, but there was some backlash on Rats and Square Hammer, (which Ghost has always been poppy). I love the direction the band is going, but there seems to be a lot of people who think Ghost was actually meant to be a satanic metal band when I don’t think that’s ever been his intention.
Maybe I’ve been hanging around the Ghost reddit too much... I can’t get a read on things over there. :lol
All the new tracks I’ve heard sound great, and one even has a sax solo. Yes please!
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Their best dance song is obviously Zombie Queen.
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These clips at great. I love the set and backdrop. Now I'm even more annoyed they aren't coming to Seattle.
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I might be wrong but I’m pretty sure there is going to be a second leg of the tour later in the year. Or at least that’s what I’m hoping since I am waiting for a Portland or Seattle show.
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There seems to be a North America tour planned for late fall. There's the LA Forum show on November 16th and Barclay's Center on December 15th and the tour is called the Pale Tour Named Death 2018 Tour. I'd imagine that there will be plenty of tour dates sprinkled in there, maybe those dates are bookends. So Seattle sometime in November maybe?
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Dance Macabre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRTBdyYEw0&t=5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRTBdyYEw0&t=5s)
Can't help but tap my foot to this song. It's so damn catchy. Of course the meaning behind the song is kinda grim, but it's putting a smile on my face!
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I really hope they take this tour to Europe. Now there's not a chance I'll get to see it. I think they will come over here eventually, but their touring schedule is pretty full already. Might have to wait until fall this year or spring 2019.
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Dance Macabre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRTBdyYEw0&t=5s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRRTBdyYEw0&t=5s)
Can't help but tap my foot to this song. It's so damn catchy. Of course the meaning behind the song is kinda grim, but it's putting a smile on my face!
Yeah, I agree. That was catchy, I totally enjoyed it. With this track and Rats, I'm looking forward to the album.
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Wow. Dance Macabre is awesome. I stopped following them with Infestissumam, but the stuff rom the last album and these new songs are fantastic.
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The video is not available in my country, but I see it's on Spotify also. I'll check it out at home then.
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This and Rats are both some solid catchy tunes.
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I was keeping my fingers crossed for a song like this. It's like I was made for loving you got reincarnated as a Ghost song and I'm loving the hell out of it. It's also fantastic lyrically, I also like most people fell for it. It's really not a love song. :lol
Looking at the comment sections, it's Steven Wilson's Permanating all over again.
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This and Rats are both some solid catchy tunes.
Oh yes, and I love them both. This is looking to be a great album.
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I was keeping my fingers crossed for a song like this. It's like I was made for loving you got reincarnated as a Ghost song and I'm loving the hell out of it. It's also fantastic lyrically, I also like most people fell for it. It's really not a love song. :lol
You prompted me to go searching for the lyrics. Well done Ghost, well done :lol
This song is catchy as hell and, utopic reasoning, this should be the crossover "summer hit" rather than whatever cheesy plastic autotuned dance-y or rap-ish song will be shoved down our throat all summer long. Didn't really care for Rats, I'll try to listen to it again and eventually to the whole album when it comes out.
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Really like this band. Digging both tracks so far. Looking forward.
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I was keeping my fingers crossed for a song like this. It's like I was made for loving you got reincarnated as a Ghost song and I'm loving the hell out of it. It's also fantastic lyrically, I also like most people fell for it. It's really not a love song. :lol
Looking at the comment sections, it's Steven Wilson's Permanating all over again.
No, it’s not :lol
His wife could have been some sort of inspiration, like He Is was about his brother who died. But no, you’re right. People dying of the plague while having one last fun night isn’t exactly lovey dovey
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Well, i am once again about to see ghost. They are almost done building the castle stage set up. Looks cool and crazy.
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The album leaked and I gotta say, it's pretty damn good. Very much a love letter to 80s Arena Rock. There's synths, booming drums, tasty guitar riffs, a saxophone solo. I'm listening to Witch Image right now and the chorus has that classic Ghost feel--catchy chorus with this uplifting, ethereal feel while the lyrics are grim: While you sleep in earthly delight, someone's flesh is rotting tonight.
See The Light is definitely about the lawsuit, and he has said that it's influenced by it, aimed at one person in particular. Out of all the demons I've know, none can compare to you
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Really sad news out of Milwaukee tonight. A fan passed out during the intermission and sadly passed away. Show got cancelled.
:( That's really sad. RIP to that fan and condolences to their family.
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Tasteless joke below:
So you are saying he.... gave up the ghost?
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So you are saying he.... gave up the ghost?
Seriously?
Your post was the topper in poor taste. :tdwn :tdwn
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So you are saying he.... gave up the ghost?
Extremely sad situation, but not gonna lie, I definitely laughed.
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I am sorry guys, I should know better. I can modify my post but Kev will need to modify his as well since he quoted me.
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Well, you might be in luck because there’s no confirmation that the guy died. One of the moderators on their Reddit said he passed away but then the local news just mentioned that he passed out and they took him to the hospital to revive him, no other details.
The band’s Twitter said that the show was cancelled out of respect for him and the family, but just referred to it as a medical emergency
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On first listen I think Prequelle is good but not great. It’s easily their softest/poppiest album which doesn’t bother me at all but might bother others. It doesn’t have many actual riffs and has quite a few “balladic” moments. The melodic guitar parts are really memorable and my favorite thing about it. Even the weak songs atleast have great melodic guitar parts. I’d give it a soft 7/10 at the moment.
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After my first listen I am extremely pleased. As much as I would have liked a couple more songs as heavy as Faith, I'm glad they ventured into more proggy and theatrical territories. The instrumental Helvetesfönster was the biggest surprise because I wasn't expecting anything so medieval and ethereal. I was worried that Ghost was going to abandon their horror soundtrack homages and so I was really happy by how eerie Ashes was. Faith is a monster and probably should be the next single. Dance Macabre sounds like something Abba would have written and I love it. Pro Memoria is the one I think will be stuck in my head for days. I just wish this album could be 70+ minutes! I want more!
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Yeah I pre-ordered with Loma Vista and get a mail that due to production failures they can't deliver on release day. Thank you Loma Vista! That will teach me.
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In spite of the metal background, Ghost was never meant to be a metal band. This is certainly a evolution in their own identity. The weakest song, IMO, if there's a weak song in this wonderful album, is Dance Macabre. 9,5/10
Fun fact: Mikael Akerfeldt did the synth solos in Helvetesfönster.
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Fun fact 2: Mikael Ĺkerfeldt is Cardinal Copia
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I'm liking the new record, it'll take some more listens to sink in, but it's definitely very cool.
I agree that the cool thing about Ghost is the over the top dark, satanic imagery and lyrics coupled with often straight up poppy hooks and great melody. It's the combination that makes them interesting, IMO.
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Currently waiting for my CD to be delivered. What I love about ghost is the variety of songs you get on every album. You get heavy stuff, poppy stuff, and just about everything inbetween and something they haven't done before tossed in as a bonus. So from what i've heard i'm definitely going to enjoy this one.
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I think I want to get this album. Just reading the reviews here plus enjoying the two singles and enjoying the 3 times I saw them open for IM. I think I am sold.
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I'm really digging the album. I bought the debut when it was gaining popularity after it's release, but the band lost me with Infestissumam and the less-guitar/riff oriented songs. I liked Meliora when I heard those singles, but was into super heavy stuff at the time.
Rats and Dance Macabre have pulled me back into this band and I just went back to those other records that I had skipped (Meliora!! :metal). This is a really fun band - the live clips are fantastic and they just know how to put out some great songs and put on a great show.
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On my second listen and really enjoying Prequelle.
Being more of a metal guy, the opening of Ashes, Rats and Faith are really fantastic. Still, I can't help but tap my toes and sing along with the AOR style of the rest. The juxtaposition of creepy, evil lyrics with soaring stadium rock is a pretty cool (and funny) aesthetic. See the Light, Dance Macabre, and Life Eternal are my favorites of these. The instrumentals are a nice surprise too. I didn't expect that. Miasma is my favorite of them.
I notice the album is already getting a good share of butt-hurt on Amazon. Too bad. I think this a good Ghost album even though it's a bit different than what came before.
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Did a podcast this week including a bit on Ghost. While we don't really talk about the new album we used it as an impetus to discuss their marketing and success.
https://www.sonicperspectives.com/features/talking-perspectives-episode-six/
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Gave the album a listen, albeit while working on some light construction in the office. Pretty good stuff. Was concerned about the perceived lack of metal, but the less metal songs played well I thought. Same with the instrumentals. Will give it a better listen later when I can focus and enjoy it more. Without knowing anything personal about Tobias or the other guys/gals, I am happy to see them getting some good press and increasing popularity.
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I've liked all of their stuff so far and this is the best thing they've done yet, imo, after two listens. The stylistic choices and songwriting are exceptional. Exceeded expectations.
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Really great album, every bit the standard of their previous 3. Interesting to hear the use of recurring themes on this (the finale of Ashes is the coda of Rats; the end of Faith is the melody of Life Eternal). Miasma is a great instrumental (it may just be coincidence but it seems to borrow heavily from the soundtrack to the movie The Rock, and of course there's the Michael Jackson guitar riff towards the end). This band (or, at this point, Tobias Forge) has a real gift for melody and theatricality. They're such a fun listen and this is another top-notch album in a so-far flawless discography (unlike most fans I consider their 2nd album, not going to attempt to spell it, to be their best).
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Second album has some great songs that I love but it sounds horrible, almost unlistenable when I listen to it through headphones.
As for the new album, love it already but then I am a fan of 80’s cheese rock so I was always going to lap up a lot of this. Early favourite is Life Eternal which is epic and gorgeous. So many great melodies on the album and I’d say that top to bottom it’s their most consistent record. The other 3 albums I find a little patchy at times despite having some great songs. Not really seeing much of a weak point on this album, Faith would be my least favourite right now but it’s getting better with each listen.
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I'll upload some video tomorrow, but they put on a hell of a show tonight in St. Paul. It was so much fun. I've seen them every time they've come here, even when they played at a bar. These shows keep getting more and more theatrical, it's amazing what a curtain can add.
The women who do backup vocals and keys add so much character to the shows, they just dance away up there. Goddam, I had a lot of fun tonight
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Prequelle is ok, but probably their weakest, IMHO.
The Leonard Cohen cover was cool, but the It's a Sin cover was disappointing. Gamma Ray did it first and better.
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It's ridiculous how good this album is.
I am floored.
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I liked the album after one listen, but I didn't love it. We'll see how it sounds after a few more listens.
I did like the instrumental Miasma a lot.
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It's awesome to see the spread on the last three comments. :lol
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I haven't got the album yet, but I guess it will be shipped soon. Can't wait to play it in the car next week.
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I love it. :biggrin:
I've listened to this album probably 20 times since it leaked the other day. I bought the CD today and I'm listening to it again as I type this, and I'm still not tired of it. There are a couple of low points for me. Pro Memoria is too repetitive and some of the lyrics are a little iffy.
"Don't forget your knives, to save your lives" :mehlin
Also the ending to Helvetesfönster goes on a bit too long.
Overall I'm really happy with this album. The bonus tracks aren't too bad either.
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Also the ending to Helvetesfönster goes on a bit too long.
It’s Mikael Akerfeldt doing that part, or at least some of the guitar parts on that track. You probably already knew that, but it’s an interesting tidbit.
I felt the same way about Pro Memoria though. When it appeared in the video where they kill the other Papas, I thought it was kinda lazy. It kicks ass live though. It was also nice to see that it is Martin doing the “Don’t You Forget About Dying” part. At least I think that’s him. He’s thanked in the liner notes
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This album rocks. It'll take a few more plays to determine how it ranks up against Meliora (my favorite Ghost record, easily), as it's definitely better than the first two in my opinion. What a good band!
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Also the ending to Helvetesfönster goes on a bit too long.
It’s Mikael Akerfeldt doing that part, or at least some of the guitar parts on that track. You probably already knew that, but it’s an interesting tidbit.
I felt the same way about Pro Memoria though. When it appeared in the video where they kill the other Papas, I thought it was kinda lazy. It kicks ass live though. It was also nice to see that it is Martin doing the “Don’t You Forget About Dying” part. At least I think that’s him. He’s thanked in the liner notes
Interesting though on Martin, though TF and MP can sound quite a bit alike when using that voice. I was thinking the "thanks" was more about historical contributions, and "thanks for not suing me"....
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Am I crazy though for thinking that it could be Martin singing that part? It's not out of the realm of possibility, right? He also thanks Martin's brother too. That has nothing to do with anything. Although, I think you may be right because someone also said that he thanks Meg Thomas too, and I imagine that may be a thanks for not suing me :lol
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After 5 listens I think Prequelle is nowhere near as good as Opus Eponymous and Meliora. The songwriting just isn’t as strong. I wouldn’t say Opus and Meliora are very original albums, but Prequelle is very generic. Almost everything sounds really familiar. I still enjoy it though, but it’s a 3.5/5 at best for me.
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I still haven't got my copy. I guess something must have gone wrong with the distributor..
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it's a great album, as long as you don't expect anything near a Metal album. The orchestration/arrangements on some of the songs are fantastic. I do think Meliora is the better album though.
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I had high expectations on this album, since I loved both Rats and Dance Macabre. It's still a very good album, but none of the other tracks tops those two. That said, Witch Image, Faith, and Pro Memoria are great songs though. Two instrumentals are one too many, I'm not that into instrumentals overall. My favourite Ghost album is still Infestissumam.
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I gave the album a couple listens yesterday and enjoyed it. The two singles stand out, but there were maybe 3 other songs I really enjoyed (don't really know song names yet) and I also really liked the one instrumental with the sax solo. That sax kind of came out of no where yet fit really well in that spot. I loved it.
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First listening - meh
Second listening - "hey, quite a lot of these songs are catchy and interesting"
I agree that Zydar that there's an instrumental too many, and I find myself particularly enjoying the slower tracks. I'm not too crazy about Rats, but if Dance Macabre is not the crossover hit of the year, I don't know which song from any other band could be.
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First listening - meh
Yeah, I'm the same. I want to give it another chance. I do like the live album they released earlier this year, but everything I've sampled from their studio albums really doesn't get me going. I'm relatively new to Ghost, after seeing them open for Maiden, but I'll try and give this new album another spin. I liked Rats a lot, though.
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Been spinning this consistently, I still really like this record.
My one issue is that it's a 10 track record, two songs were released ahead of time, one song is just a 1:00 minute intro, there are two instrumentals, so I really felt like I didn't have a ton of meat to dig into. But I like the record, I guess I wish it was longer?
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Been spinning this consistently, I still really like this record.
My one issue is that it's a 10 track record, two songs were released ahead of time, one song is just a 1:00 minute intro, there are two instrumentals, so I really felt like I didn't have a ton of meat to dig into. But I like the record, I guess I wish it was longer?
Yea, does seem like there's not a whole lot here sadly
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Something to keep in mind about album length, he/they are huge into the 70's aesthetic/approach, and that includes album length/sequencing.
Opus: 8 real songs (incl. one instrumental) and an intro
Infest.: 9 real songs, one intro
Meliora: 8 real songs, two short instrumental interludes
Prequelle: 9 real songs (incl. two instrumentals)
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I would describe the new album as good. Not great, but good.
Favorites are Dance Macabre (so damn catchy), Miasma, Rats and Pro Memoria.
I love the first half of Helvetesfonster, but then again it kind of falls off and ends somewhat uneventfully.
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Here's some of my clips from the ritual in St. Paul last Friday. Hopefully they come back here to Minnesota when they tour the US in the fall again. My concert videography skills are nowhere near Cram level greatness, but I did decent considering we were packed in like sardines.
Dance Macabre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CSr7CydfQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6CSr7CydfQ)
Most of Ritual and Beginning of Con Clavi Con Did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvDWh0cpjI&t=34s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvDWh0cpjI&t=34s)
Miasma Sax Solo and Cardinal Copia's White Suit Entrance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hu8gBZaY3I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hu8gBZaY3I)
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I love the first half of Helvetesfonster, but then again it kind of falls off and ends somewhat uneventfully.
That's odd. I think the second half of that song is the interesting part. Some truly gorgeous melodies and glorious guitar work.
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I was just reading Metal Archives and saw that Per "Sodomizer" Ericsson is the current bassist? I thought it was still the woman that they had before, at least the bassist's ghoul mask looked different than the others in the clips I've seen.
Either way, sucks that he's not with Bloodbath anymore, but if he is in Ghost, good for him!
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I love the first half of Helvetesfonster, but then again it kind of falls off and ends somewhat uneventfully.
That's odd. I think the second half of that song is the interesting part. Some truly gorgeous melodies and glorious guitar work.
Featuring Mikael Ĺkerfeldt on acoustic guitar :tup
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I was just reading Metal Archives and saw that Per "Sodomizer" Ericsson is the current bassist? I thought it was still the woman that they had before, at least the bassist's ghoul mask looked different than the others in the clips I've seen.
Either way, sucks that he's not with Bloodbath anymore, but if he is in Ghost, good for him!
I think Per is the lead guitarist now. Chris Catalyst is the rhythm, Hayden Scott is the drummer, no clue who bass, third guitar, and the Ghulehs are, although some have said one might be Erna from Lordi.
I think you’re thinking of Meg Thomas who was on the US run of the Popestar tour before everyone else got fired. She’s thanked in the liner notes of the album
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Was checking out tickets for the arena show in Brooklyn at the end of the year. They aren't selling any of the upper deck slots. I guess it makes sense that Ghost isn't ready to be an arena act just yet. I'm considering going but see no need to buy a ticket soon. I like the album and think them on a big stage to possibly end the tour could be a really cool experience.
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I was just reading Metal Archives and saw that Per "Sodomizer" Ericsson is the current bassist? I thought it was still the woman that they had before, at least the bassist's ghoul mask looked different than the others in the clips I've seen.
Either way, sucks that he's not with Bloodbath anymore, but if he is in Ghost, good for him!
I think Per is the lead guitarist now. Chris Catalyst is the rhythm, Hayden Scott is the drummer, no clue who bass, third guitar, and the Ghulehs are, although some have said one might be Erna from Lordi.
I think you’re thinking of Meg Thomas who was on the US run of the Popestar tour before everyone else got fired. She’s thanked in the liner notes of the album
What was the band lineup for last summer's tour?
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I love the first half of Helvetesfonster, but then again it kind of falls off and ends somewhat uneventfully.
That's odd. I think the second half of that song is the interesting part. Some truly gorgeous melodies and glorious guitar work.
You might be right. More listens are forthcoming and it is possible the second half will grab me more. :tup :tup
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Miasma Sax Solo and Cardinal Copia's White Suit Entrance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hu8gBZaY3I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hu8gBZaY3I)
This is awesome.
Had a few more listens including a full album listen on my drive home today and this album is catchy af. Probably not a bad song here, although I think Pro Memoria may be my least favorite, but even then, there's some awesome melody there. Life Eternal is a pretty awesome closer. I think Witch Image may be the hidden gem of this album though. That song is fun and catchy, has awesome guitar work and a booming sing along chorus. Really hard to determine which songs I like the most.
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What was the band lineup for last summer's tour?
Tobias- Papa III
Per Ericsson-Bass
Ben Christo-Guitar
Chris Catalyst-Guitar
Hayden Scott- Drums
Zac Baird- Keys
So Per, Chris, and Hayden are the ones returning.
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Thank you. I thought that band was outstanding. I'm so glad they made a live album to capture them.
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I’ll always have a soft spot for the first incarnation of the band, mainly rhythm guitarist Martin and his onstage personality. That’s the band that I fell in love with and saw many times. They were and are all fantastic musicians. The Ceremony and Devotion lineup is just a fun lineup—they brought even more personality to the Ghouls and interact with the audience a lot more. I’m happy to report that although the lineup is the same, the additions bring a whole lot more. At the show last week, I kept watching the female keyboardists. They bring so much style and fun to the band. They dance, interact with each other, and just look like they are having fun. Their interpretive hand motions for Pinnacle to the Pit was hilarious and perfect!
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According to blabbermouth, the album is set to land at #3 in the billboard top 200 :omg:
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I've had exactly one listen of the full album. FInally got it in the mail yesterday and I was very excited to play it in the car this morning. I must say, I'm a little torn on this album, but that's also partly because I've had only one listen. The first three tracks got me thinking this would be among their best (Faith is an amazing song, and I had heard Rats once before as it was released as it was released as a single). See the Light felt very disappointing, but I figured that would just be a slight dip for a slower, ballad-like track and Miasma made up for it more than enough (outstanding musicianship!). The second half of the album was a little tame to me, especially compared to Meliora, which I consider to be the band's best output. I meed some more listens, definitely, because I can hear the song-writing is really good. It's just that I had hoped for a little heavier I guess. The covers at the end were excellent though and are more in line with their previous work. It would have been nice if the album had expanded on that sound slightly more.
tl;dr: I can't really say anything after one listen. Parts of it were very good, other parts didn't do much (yet)
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It grows better with further listenings. It's an easy and short immersion in their world, nothing too complex, but all the songs are strong. Maybe one instrumental less and one fast / heavy song more would have been even better....
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It grows better with further listenings.
that is true. i like it more now. :tup
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Miasma and Helvetesfonster are two of the best songs on it, so I can't agree with saying one less instrumental would have made it better.
Jumping back an album, while I have always liked it, Majesty has recently become one of my favorites.
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Miasma and Helvetesfonster are two of the best songs on it, so I can't agree with saying one less instrumental would have made it better.
Jumping back an album, while I have always liked it, Majesty has recently become one of my favorites.
I thought the instrumentals were good indeed.
Majesty is good, but it's a weaker track among really good tracks, as far as I'm concerned.
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Yea I have no beef with the instrumentals, I'd punt Helvetesfonster if I had to choose one, but they don't hold the album back. Maybe another heavy song would have been good though, the back half is a much softer album than it starts out as.
EDIT:
I just logged into facebook and one year ago today :metal:
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18922565_10114045386923904_7364464276082046556_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f9fe1e5a99ef4b25bfef8c0b419894ea&oe=5BAD0B43)
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Yea this is growing on me and has jumped to my #7 spot. It's also sent me on a Ghost kick. I finally got around to downloading Popestar and Meliora and they are both great.
I have had the first two albums for at least the last 4 years, they're ok but this newer stuff is sticking with me. I LOVE the new album art and, although I don't love the latest vocal incarnation, I really loved the Popestar era look. I just don't want to stop listening to these guys at the moment.
I've never even come close to seeing them and that shit needs to be rectified. Just been talking gigs with some of my buddies and quite a few of them are up for seeing them when they tour next, result!
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One thing I've realized about Dance Macabre is that the bridge is possibly even better than the chorus. Yeah, the chorus is anthemic and singalong-ish, but coming from the verse into "How could it end like this, there's a sting in the way that you kiss me"... that's where the song actually is irresistible.
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That's the song of the year as far as I'm concerned. It's so mesmerizing.
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That's the song of the year as far as I'm concerned. It's so mesmerizing.
It should also be the crossover hit for the summer, if people not into heavy music can like Nothing Else Matters, Enter Sandman or You Shook Me All Night Long, why can't they like this song? but probably the summer hit it's gonna be Despacito pt. 2 or something like that.
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Jumping back an album, while I have always liked it, Majesty has recently become one of my favorites.
I love Majesty. I remember Omega, the rhythm guitarist at the time, said that the the title Majesty was picked out for the song before they had anything else and they wanted to make a guitar riff that sounded majestic. I gotta say, that opening riff fits the bill for the word majestic.
On the Black to the Future Tour, it was featured for the first few shows and had a mini drum solo at the end of it, but sadly they dropped it somewhere during the tour and it's never come back. I love that track. One of my favorites
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Majesty is a good example of the little things making a song so much better.
Those little cymbal tings in between the vocal lines at the start of each chorus are so cool. They are part of the hook!
"Old One! Master!!"
So simple, yet so effective.
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I love the descending, epic vocal melodies after the second chorus. That song is incredible, yet it was also the one I used to skip when I first got into the album. It took me a while to appreciate it.
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Majesty was never one of my favorites but I think it has perhaps the coolest ending to any Ghost song. I've listened to Prequelle many times now and I couldn't be happier with it. I seriously adore every song, and just for fun I'm going to attempt ranking them.
1. Helvetesfönster (if you are on the fence about this one, then just listen to it while walking in a forest).
2. Dance Macabre
3. Faith
4. Witch Image
5. Pro Memoria
6. See the Light
7. Rats
8. Miasma
9. Life Eternal
10. Ashes
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Ghost announces a MASSIVE US Tour for the Fall:
(https://i.redditmedia.com/z83xXvVkQb6C_laoRrA5H89S7JkkoQTssyRMEI8O_c0.jpg?w=575&s=074bce2e90f619c22a9c99e48ca8ab85)
A Pale Tour Named Death 2018 US Tour
Oct. 26 - Tulsa, Okla. @ Cox Business Center Ballroom
Oct. 27 - Kansas City, Mo. @ Arvest Bank Theatre at the Midland
Oct. 29 - Louisville, Ky. @ Palace Theatre
Oct. 30 - Indianapolis, Ind. @ The Murat Theatre
Nov. 01 - Chicago, Ill. @ Aragon Ballroom
Nov. 02 - Peoria, Ill. @ Peoria Civic Center - Theatre
Nov. 03 - Madison, Wis. @ The Sylvee
Nov. 04 - Ames, Iowa @ Stephens Auditorium
Nov. 06 - Omaha, Neb. @ Orpheum Theater
Nov. 08 - Albuquerque, N.M. @ Kiva Auditorium
Nov. 09 - El Paso, Texas @ Abraham Chavez Theatre
Nov. 10 - Phoenix, Ariz. @ Comerica Theatre
Nov. 12 - San Diego, Calif. @ Spreckels Theatre
Nov. 13 - Sacramento, Calif. @ Sacramento Community Center Theater
Nov. 15 - San Jose, Calif. @ City National Civic Center
Nov. 16 - Los Angeles, Calif. @ The Forum
Nov. 17 - Las Vegas, Nev. @ The Joint
Nov. 19 - Midland, Texas @ Wagner Noel Performing Arts Center
Nov. 20 - Austin, Texas @ Bass Concert Hall
Nov. 21 - New Orleans, La. @ Orpheum Theatre
Nov. 23 - Orlando, Fla. @ Dr. Phillips Center for the Performing Arts - Walt Disney Theater
Nov. 24 - Miami Beach, Fla. @ The Fillmore at Jackie Gleason Theater
Nov. 25 - Clearwater, Fla. @ Ruth Eckerd Hall
Nov. 27 - North Charleston, S.C. North Charleston Performing Arts Center
Nov. 29 - Mobile, Alab. @ Saenger Theatre
Nov. 30 - Atlanta, Ga. @ Roxy Theatre
Dec. 01 - Jacksonville, Fla. @ Florida Theatre
Dec. 02 - Charlotte, N.C. @ Ovens Auditorium
Dec. 04 - Richmond, Va. @ Dominion Energy Center
Dec. 05 - Wilkes-Barre, Penn. @ F.M. Kirby Center for the Performing Arts
Dec. 07 - Laval, Quebec @ Place Bell
Dec. 08 - Toronto, Ontario @ Sony Centre for the Performing Arts
Dec. 10 - Baltimore, Md. @ The Hippodrome
Dec. 11 - Upper Darby, Penn. @ Tower Theater
Dec. 13 - Albany, N.Y. @ Palace Theatre
Dec. 14 - Boston, Mass. @ Wang Theatre
Dec. 15 - Brooklyn, N.Y. Barclays Center
Looks like I'm making the 3 hour trek down to Ames, Iowa to see them. Pumped to see them in a big theater!
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GODDAMN NOTHING IN WA, NOT EVEN PDX
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Waiting for the European tour :corn
Ok, so after about 6 listens, this may end up being my #1 album of the year. It's so damn catchy and I just want to keep listening to it!
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Waiting for the European tour :corn
Yeah, this.
I'm actually considering going to a random metal festival nearby where nothing interesting plays except Leprous & Ghost just to see them (and maybe get a glimpse of Sons of Apollo and hearing their music for the first time)
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Waiting for the European tour :corn
Yeah, this.
I'm actually considering going to a random metal festival nearby where nothing interesting plays except Leprous & Ghost just to see them (and maybe get a glimpse of Sons of Apollo and hearing their music for the first time)
I already have tickets to that :lol come see Figaro's Whore live!
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Cool, I'll join. My mother lives like a mile from there, so it's not that hard for me to get there at all.
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:metardica:
The train network to Eindhoven is fantastic anyway, it's even quickly accessible for me
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Definitely leaning towards going to the Barclays arena show, but it's far off and tickets aren't selling like crazy so I will hold off, but I like the album enough to want to see the big show.
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Nothing near Pittsburgh :sad:
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Got 7th row tickets for the Ames, Iowa show. Really excited for it. I think it will be a different set and stage setup, since he has alluded to more theatrics and pyro for the fall shows.
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I can't read so I missed there being a KC date and thought there was no Missouri date. So I did the logical thing and bought tickets for the Toronto show. Figured I've never been there. Why not?
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Ghost & Candlemass Covering Metallica Enter Sandman - Polar Music Prize 2018 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0pXcZkqEtA)
very awesome :metal
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Ghost & Candlemass Covering Metallica Enter Sandman - Polar Music Prize 2018 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0pXcZkqEtA)
very awesome :metal
Woah, that's cool indeed!
What was the occasion? An why didn't they play a song of their own?
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Ghost & Candlemass Covering Metallica Enter Sandman - Polar Music Prize 2018 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0pXcZkqEtA)
very awesome :metal
Woah, that's cool indeed!
What was the occasion? An why didn't they play a song of their own?
That was a cool cover!
They played a Metallica song because Metallica was receiving the Polar Music Award at that ceremony.
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Looking a bit in the future.... I've heard an interview snippet with Tobias Forge talking about having for each album a Papa was becoming predictable, hence the introduction of the Cardinal to change things up, which they plan to keep around for 4-5 years as a character.
He hinted that there could be a change for him in the future, and that he has anyway the different eyes of the previous Papas.... and we all know in real life what's the next step for a cardinal, if he ever gets "promoted". I was thinkin that it would be cool if Cardinal Copia becomes a Papa (maybe a promotion after this tour cycle?), and they stage their own habemus papam to announce the new Pope, qui sibi nomen imposuit Emeritus IV most likely :D
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Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.
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Interesting train of though, MirrorMask. I'm very intrigued by what may follow and I'm trying to be very open-minded and not get attached to Cardinal Copia - after all, he's just a phase.
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Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.
The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect. The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.
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Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.
The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect. The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.
Now see, on rare exceptions, I generally do not like brass in my rock music. So when I heard there was an instrumental (which I am usually not fond of either) with a sax solo, I was all...ughhhh. But damn if it doesn't work in Miasma. And somehow that's what Ghost does. They make everything they set out to do work.
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Okay I take back what I said about the instrumentals before. Miasma kicks ass.
The sax solo in that song is absolutely perfect. The song is just rocking out and then the sax comes in and makes it so much better.
Now see, on rare exceptions, I generally do not like brass in my rock music. So when I heard there was an instrumental (which I am usually not fond of either) with a sax solo, I was all...ughhhh. But damn if it doesn't work in Miasma. And somehow that's what Ghost does. They make everything they set out to do work.
I love it, and I love how they bring out the sax in the live show as well. :metal
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To continue talking about Miasma, there's one part that I can't stop rewinding back to after his happens. It's after the drum roll at the 2:58 mark and kicks into the chugging riff and that synth playing over it. I can't stop listening to it. The way I tried describing it to my dad is that it felt ethereal. It's dark yet beautiful and if that synth sound isn't there, the part just isn't as good.
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A few weeks in and i still think this is their best yet. Fantastic work. Life eternal is a favourite - both dark and moving. The writing and direction of the album is so perfect for me.
The carpenter brut Dance Macabre is fab, too, in case you've not heard it. Shows that Tobias' voice is great in another setting and that synthwave really benefits from great vocal songs, afaic.
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This is really cool of Ghost to do for the guy who died during their concert earlier in the year:
https://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/ghost-to-return-to-milwaukee-for-show-to-honor-deceased-fan (https://www.metalinjection.net/tour-dates/ghost-to-return-to-milwaukee-for-show-to-honor-deceased-fan)
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The trial for the lawsuit against Tobias by the former Ghouls is well underway in Sweden.
You can read the rough transcripts of the proceedings over on the lawsuit reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghost_Lawsuit/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghost_Lawsuit/)
There's been some interesting things coming out of it thus far through the first three days (there's three more).
One of the more interesting things is that Martin Persner (the Ghoul that went on to revive Magna Carta Cartel and did a lot of PR for the band and was the guy who designed the costumes and such) was fired from the band. Apparently Tobias and everyone else except Mauro was having issues with him and they voted to fire him. Martin takes the stand on Monday or maybe Tuesday, so it will be interesting to see how that goes.
The other takeaway is that Tobias was definitely not prepared for questioning. He kinda shoots himself in the foot a few times such as not knowing what a companionship agreement was despite sending an email to the band members telling them to sign a companionship agreement.
Another tidbit. The intro to Cirice was not played the way it was originally written. Henrik, who played bass on Meliora, was fiddling around on the acoustic guitar and played the part a different way. Klas Ahlund, the producer, liked it and told him that was the correct way that part should be played. Apparently, Tobias was pissed off (furious, as the testimony says).
Very interesting transcripts though.
Tobias is gonna have a very short night though. They had a show Sunday night in London at Royal Albert Hall and he has to be in court Monday morning for cross examination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8r8DsIONeU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8r8DsIONeU)
EDIT:
Another thing that maybe I misread, but thought was kinda funny. Tobias requested to go through a different door of the court room so he didn't have to run into the Ghouls suing him, since during breaks you can freely roam the halls of the courthouse. I can understand not wanting to run into them, but I don't think they're gonna want to talk to him either
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Wow very interesting. Thanks for the insight.
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I'd always figured it was just a massive communications clusterfuck instead of malign intent on anyone's part, and this all seems to underscore that. I think this could be taught in future Swedish contract law classes as "what not to do". Seriously, having them sign contracts on merch and management when they were just "employees" with no say in anything??? That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works. And the commingling of funds? Oy.
If I read TF's testimony right, at times Sissi (his lawyer) held herself out as TF's atty, at other times as the band's atty...that is some bad juju. In the US, that could carry some serious professional consequences. Not sure about Sweden.
Also, it seems like MP saw that the ship was headed for an iceberg from early on and kept pushing for clarity, saying how badly things would turn out if there were not clear agreements in place.
EDIT: and speaking of MP, new MCC single next week!
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Looking forward to that MCC single and eventual album. Martin's a great musician, voice, and personality. I look forward to seeing what they do. His testimony had a bit that made me laugh:
"Universal could pay to put us in one of the top five most expensive recording studios in the US, yet they couldn't afford to give us a wheat roll or Capri Sun?"
He had another one in an email where he was talking about merchandise and how there was a fine line between stepping on people's toes and farting in their mouths (in regards to having stupid merchandise and tasteful merchandise.)
Anyways, I agree. It just seems like a giant clusterfuck and miscommunication. Maybe Tobias knew all of this and is playing dumb, or maybe he genuinely didn't know what was going on. All they had to do was communicate though, and they didn't. That Sissi (TF's lawyer) was playing the Ghoul's. Hopefully he doesn't do business with her anymore.
The Ghouls definitely came out looking better, except Mauro, who just seemed like he was along for the ride.
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The verdict came today, and apparently Tobias won. The former band members have to pay him legal costs of 1.3 million Swedish kronor (roughly $146 000).
Can't find a link in English at the moment, just saw it on a Swedish news site.
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That makes me very happy for some reason. :biggrin:
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https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/former-ghost-members-lawsuit-against-tobias-forge-dismissed/
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I guess it makes sense but feel bad the ghouls have to pay his legal fees, seems like they just assumed something that wasn't there.
However, this kind of caught me in the article:
Also, I'm a big fan of rock, of rock history, and I've read every classic rock biography of every band I'm a fan of," he said. "You know what? The same shit takes place in every single one.
Forge added: "A friend of mine, a very successful songwriter, said to me, 'You're not really in the game until you've been sued, so welcome in!' and I think he's got a point
Probably why people say the music business is dirty. Just makes me wonder if Tobias really knew he was dragging those guys around misleading them or they legit just didn't understand their situation in the band.
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I'd like to see the decision for the dismissal.
In any case, I was soundly on the side of the ghouls. They were all naive as fuck, but that doesn't mean I think they should get nothing (much less a judgement against them for the legal fees).
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New tour, new setlist. Not too many changes, but some songs were taken out--Prime Mover, Deus In Abesntia, and Stand By Him were taken out, while Majesty, Satan Prayer, Witch Image, Life Eternal, and Idolatrine draw into the setlist. So, the set is two songs longer. I am pumped to see them again in a few days
Ashes
Rats
Absolution
Idolatrine (Live Debut)
Ritual
Con Clavi Con Dio
Per Aspera ad Inferi
Devil Church
Cirice
Miasma
Jigolo Har Megiddo (Acoustic)
Pro Memoria
Witch Image (Live Debut)
Life Eternal (Live Debut)
Spirit
From the Pinnacle to the Pit
Majesty
Satan Prayer
Faith
Year Zero
Spöksonat
He Is
Mummy Dust
If You Have Ghosts
Dance Macabre
Square Hammer
Encore:
Monstrance Clock
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They never play Helvetesfonster? Too bad, as I love that one. The first couple albums have some songs I like, but whenever I am in the mood for Ghost, I pretty much go for the last two albums; I like both of those a lot.
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I seriously cannot get into Ghost's studio stuff, but I do like the live album they released earlier this year.
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About time Witch Image and Life Eternal got played live!
Too bad they won't tour solo in my town, I'll have to see Metallica to see them. Uh well. :D
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New tour, new setlist. Not too many changes, but some songs were taken out--Prime Mover, Deus In Abesntia, and Stand By Him were taken out, while Majesty, Satan Prayer, Witch Image, Life Eternal, and Idolatrine draw into the setlist. So, the set is two songs longer. I am pumped to see them again in a few days
Ashes
Rats
Absolution
Idolatrine (Live Debut)
Ritual
Con Clavi Con Dio
Per Aspera ad Inferi
Devil Church
Cirice
Miasma
Jigolo Har Megiddo (Acoustic)
Pro Memoria
Witch Image (Live Debut)
Life Eternal (Live Debut)
Spirit
From the Pinnacle to the Pit
Majesty
Satan Prayer
Faith
Year Zero
Spöksonat
He Is
Mummy Dust
If You Have Ghosts
Dance Macabre
Square Hammer
Encore:
Monstrance Clock
Holy shit, they actually removed some of my least favorite songs and replaced them with some of my favorite songs!
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About time Witch Image and Life Eternal got played live!
:metal
Life Eternal is so good, glad these got added. Makes me want to go to that Brooklyn concert even more now.
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First off, I am not an instrumental guy. Vocal melodies play a big part in my enjoyment of music, regardless of genre. Second, I generally dislike brass in my rock/metal. That being said, Miasma has become my favorite rock instrumental. I don't think I even had a favorite rock instrumental before hearing this.
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First off, I am not an instrumental guy. Vocal melodies play a big part in my enjoyment of music, regardless of genre. Second, I generally dislike brass in my rock/metal. That being said, Miasma has become my favorite rock instrumental. I don't think I even had a favorite rock instrumental before hearing this.
I absolutely love the sax solo, so powerfull when you think it can't get any better at that moment in the song. Maybe it's just because you don't have the sax in metal anymore or maybe because that's an instrument I actually played :lol that I love it so much
Have you seen the music video for Dance Macabre? The intro with Miasma in the background from inside the house party is so cool for the intro, and you hear the sax at the right moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gr63DiEUxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gr63DiEUxw)
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Late to yet another party! Just got into these guys, saw them in Chicago a couple weeks ago and went in virtually blind, having only heard Cirice and Dance Macabre. Was completely floored! I picked up Infestissumam and Prequelle and loving both albums, waiting on the other 2 now. New fan here!
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Heading to Brooklyn soon for the final show of the NA leg (although looks like they may be back in 2019). Its an arena show and it didn't sell the greatest. Looks like they sold out the floor but didn't even offer tickets for the upper ring of the arena. I snagged a suite seat for cheaper than face of any ticket so I'm interested in how the suites look in Barclays Center. Saw them open for Iron Maiden a few times, but looking forward to the new songs and the full show :metal
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Heading to Brooklyn soon for the final show of the NA leg (although looks like they may be back in 2019). Its an arena show and it didn't sell the greatest. Looks like they sold out the floor but didn't even offer tickets for the upper ring of the arena. I snagged a suite seat for cheaper than face of any ticket so I'm interested in how the suites look in Barclays Center. Saw them open for Iron Maiden a few times, but looking forward to the new songs and the full show :metal
Saw them here in Richmond a couple weeks ago. I think this is the best version of the band yet, and definitely the best setlist out the 3 times I've seen them.
Enjoy it! It's a fantastic show.
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Heading to Brooklyn soon for the final show of the NA leg (although looks like they may be back in 2019).
What makes you say that? They've got a festival date in Chicago in May, but they seem booked up and still haven't really hit South America. I really hope they do though. He said in a recent interview that he will probably record the next album in 2020 and that he has stuff written.
Also, the appeal from the former Ghouls is pretty interesting. They claim there was a conflict of interest in that both the judge and Tobias are part of the Freemasons of Sweden and since they belong to the same "secret" society, they were in it together. Pretty interesting stuff
https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/11/former-ghost-members-seek-new-trial/ (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/11/former-ghost-members-seek-new-trial/)
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Heading to Brooklyn soon for the final show of the NA leg (although looks like they may be back in 2019).
What makes you say that? They've got a festival date in Chicago in May
That's why. And I said may, because it was only one date, but a festival date. Bands often play many of these festivals so my assumption is I wouldn't be surprised to see more NA dates since they are coming back for sure for one concert. Honestly was surprised to see another US date announced since they did two full tours already and then supporting Metallica in Europe.
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I really hope so, at least a small run. They did that three years ago where they did 5 shows in the Midwest before ending at Lolapalooza in Chicago, so I really hope so.
I found it weird that they did so many US shows to start, I mean, they've been here all year and only a handful in Europe. But he's said before that they aren't as big over in Europe as people think. Obviously with one Grammy win and two nominations this year and an album debuting at #3 here in America, it makes sense to keep playing our markets to eventually get to arenas everywhere here. (Although, I'll always have a soft spot and preference for them in theaters, hell, I've seen them in a bar)
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Really cool show Saturday. Was cool how they added some pyro/smoke/loud bangs/confetti into the show for the arena gig. I've watched a bunch of youtube videos so had an idea of the show already but was cool to see them expand upon it a bit for the bigger stage. I scooped up a suite ticket for super cheap a few hours before the show and wasn't sure what to expect for a suite, but found it to be completely empty :lol You can see in my video, I walk in and it's just empty. All the suites are empty (now a couple people did eventually show up, but overall kind of eerily empty for all the suites). However they did have a full staff just chilling at the bar :lol The bartender said the arena was configured for 8k attendance. I'd say for that, maybe they hit 7k. Just the corners were empty (and suites) but the floor was sold out and if you didn't know better, the floor was so loud and into the show it felt like a full arena. That was another surprise for me, from most shows I've seen on youtube the crowd kind of just chills and watches. But this show the crowd seemed energized. Maybe a lot of hardcore fans travelled for it (I know I met one who did) but the crowd energy was nice. There was a small mosh pit I could see formed near the end of the gig.
As for the performance, they sounded so tight and pretty much flawless. One thing that I was not a fan of though, it seemed their sound was not the greatest at least where I was. I'm wondering if their touring sound wasn't really meant for the arena. Not sure if this was just a me thing or something others experienced though. It wasn't the worst sound, it just wasn't that great especially after attending some really good sounding shows (Steven Wilson).
Papa did speak an awful lot at this show though. Sometimes it was funny (barking like a dog or talking about taints and farts) and sometimes it just dragged. Specifically before the encore, he talked sooo much. One person said he talked this show much more than any other he had seen this tour. I don't know, but I could see that being true. My highlights though were probably the new songs, Miasma (with the sax solo!) Witch Image and Dance Macabre.
Ghost - LIVE @ Barclays Center (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLBcd-m3PT8)
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I'll admit I don't care much for the speeches (or the goofy call-outs to the crowd) during the songs...a little bit of that goes a long way, and I feel like it get's layered on way too heavily. That said, I prefer the pre-Popestar "creepy but with a wink" vibe to the more recent campy/cheeky feel.
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I think this is somewhat appropriate. I took this screen capture in November 2016 and I swear to Papa Emeritus it is real. :biggrin:
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14906973_657435631101977_4383304616582681681_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.xx&oh=638b5c11543732659d3218882042c35b&oe=5CC5915A)
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I’m now familiar enough with all of their albums to do a ranking. Mine goes like this:
Meliora
Prequelle
Infestissumam
Opus Eponymous
Hurts to put Opus last, but that’s the way it panned out for me.
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Meliora
Prequelle
Infestissumam
Opus Eponymous
This would be my exact ranking as well.
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Man, there's not a lot of love for Opus. I was looking at their reddit forum thing and someone started a thread asking, "Can anybody else not get into Opus?" That's insanity. When I heard that album when it was first released, it was like I stumbled onto a long lost album recorded in 1973.
Anyway, here's my ranking:
Three way tie - Opus, Meliora, Prequelle
Pretty distantly behind - Infestissumam
Maybe a cop out way to rank them but I honestly find those three to be near flawless for quite different reasons. Infest only has a few highlights and a lot of low and dare I say boring moments.
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What I like most about Opus is how much Sabbath influence I hear. I think that’s what gave them their boost in popularity apart from their theatrics.
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Meliora
Opus Eponymous
Prequelle
Infestissumam
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Man, there's not a lot of love for Opus. I was looking at their reddit forum thing and someone started a thread asking, "Can anybody else not get into Opus?" That's insanity. When I heard that album when it was first released, it was like I stumbled onto a long lost album recorded in 1973.
Anyway, here's my ranking:
Three way tie - Opus, Meliora, Prequelle
Pretty distantly behind - Infestissumam
Maybe a cop out way to rank them but I honestly find those three to be near flawless for quite different reasons. Infest only has a few highlights and a lot of low and dare I say boring moments.
I’ve found that the Reddit page is mainly fans that got into them when Square Hammer came out or even when they heard Dance Macabre for the first time. I hate to be a gatekeeper when it comes to fans and music, but man, some of the Ghost fans on Reddit, especially the new ones, are annoying as hell. I miss the days of Papa I where I was standing in a bar watching them live going “Are these guys actually Satanists?”
Anyways, I agree with your rankings for the most part. Opus is always gonna be number one for me. I will always remember hearing it for the first time. There’s an energy there that they can’t replicate again, Tobias’ voice is young and the riffs are menacing. It’s a great album through and through. Infestissumam is last but not because I hate it, I just wish it was remastered with the guitar more forward and the drums a bit stronger. There’s just something missing with the production... Maybe one day, Tobias has said multiple times it didn’t turn out the way they wanted it to.
1)Opus
2)Prequelle
3)Meliora
4)Infest
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Prequelle
Infestissumam
Meliora
Opus Eponymous
Just because I placed Opus last doesn't mean it's bad. They're all great. Opus has a couple of fine tracks, it's just that the albums would get better with time :P
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Man, there's not a lot of love for Opus. I was looking at their reddit forum thing and someone started a thread asking, "Can anybody else not get into Opus?" That's insanity. When I heard that album when it was first released, it was like I stumbled onto a long lost album recorded in 1973.
Anyway, here's my ranking:
Three way tie - Opus, Meliora, Prequelle
Pretty distantly behind - Infestissumam
Maybe a cop out way to rank them but I honestly find those three to be near flawless for quite different reasons. Infest only has a few highlights and a lot of low and dare I say boring moments.
I’ve found that the Reddit page is mainly fans that got into them when Square Hammer came out or even when they heard Dance Macabre for the first time. I hate to be a gatekeeper when it comes to fans and music, but man, some of the Ghost fans on Reddit, especially the new ones, are annoying as hell. I miss the days of Papa I where I was standing in a bar watching them live going “Are these guys actually Satanists?”
Anyways, I agree with your rankings for the most part. Opus is always gonna be number one for me. I will always remember hearing it for the first time. There’s an energy there that they can’t replicate again, Tobias’ voice is young and the riffs are menacing. It’s a great album through and through. Infestissumam is last but not because I hate it, I just wish it was remastered with the guitar more forward and the drums a bit stronger. There’s just something missing with the production... Maybe one day, Tobias has said multiple times it didn’t turn out the way they wanted it to.
1)Opus
2)Prequelle
3)Meliora
4)Infest
Yeah I still feel pretty fortunate that I saw ghosts on their first or second tour. A jam-packed bar the smell of incense permeated the air. From the stage to the ceiling must have only been about eight feet and they can barely fit their backdrop in so it is actually folded over on the floor and you can only see about the top third of it just behind the amps. The place went nuts. I still knew nothing about them. I was pretty sure they were from Sweden. Were they bunch of famous people doing a band as a side project? What's this the start of a huge band? I always kind of felt like I got in on the ground floor with them. I mean imagine somebody who bought Black Sabbath's album the first day it came out. So yeah, now that the Mystique is gone it's a bit of a bummer but it's pretty cool I was able to leave that stuff. I definitely miss papa I.
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My ranking:
1. Prequelle
2. Meliora
3. Opus
4. Infestisumam
The first three are all great, whereas Infestisumam ist just good.
I'm not surprised that Opus isn't as popular with the younger fans. Most of them that caught up after Square hammer probably find it too raw and not as catchy. However, for me, tracks like Stand by him and Elisabeth struck me immediately with their catchiness, given that I heard them prior to the bigger hits being released.
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And it has my favourite instrumental of theirs, Genesis.
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I haven't listened to the older albums, I became a fan from seeing them open for Iron Maiden three times (so I guess that puts me in the Square Hammer crowd), but I can say I like Prequelle more than Meliora.
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See The Light is probably the catchiest song I’ve heard in years. Gets stuck in my head for weeks at a time. Such a well written song.
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See The Light is probably the catchiest song I’ve heard in years. Gets stuck in my head for weeks at a time. Such a well written song.
"But of all the demons I've known none could compare to you"... excellent stuff indeed! my favorite of the slow songs.
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Man, there's not a lot of love for Opus. I was looking at their reddit forum thing and someone started a thread asking, "Can anybody else not get into Opus?" That's insanity. When I heard that album when it was first released, it was like I stumbled onto a long lost album recorded in 1973.
Anyway, here's my ranking:
Three way tie - Opus, Meliora, Prequelle
Pretty distantly behind - Infestissumam
Maybe a cop out way to rank them but I honestly find those three to be near flawless for quite different reasons. Infest only has a few highlights and a lot of low and dare I say boring moments.
I’ve found that the Reddit page is mainly fans that got into them when Square Hammer came out or even when they heard Dance Macabre for the first time. I hate to be a gatekeeper when it comes to fans and music, but man, some of the Ghost fans on Reddit, especially the new ones, are annoying as hell. I miss the days of Papa I where I was standing in a bar watching them live going “Are these guys actually Satanists?”
Anyways, I agree with your rankings for the most part. Opus is always gonna be number one for me. I will always remember hearing it for the first time. There’s an energy there that they can’t replicate again, Tobias’ voice is young and the riffs are menacing. It’s a great album through and through. Infestissumam is last but not because I hate it, I just wish it was remastered with the guitar more forward and the drums a bit stronger. There’s just something missing with the production... Maybe one day, Tobias has said multiple times it didn’t turn out the way they wanted it to.
1)Opus
2)Prequelle
3)Meliora
4)Infest
Yeah I still feel pretty fortunate that I saw ghosts on their first or second tour. A jam-packed bar the smell of incense permeated the air. From the stage to the ceiling must have only been about eight feet and they can barely fit their backdrop in so it is actually folded over on the floor and you can only see about the top third of it just behind the amps. The place went nuts. I still knew nothing about them. I was pretty sure they were from Sweden. Were they bunch of famous people doing a band as a side project? What's this the start of a huge band? I always kind of felt like I got in on the ground floor with them. I mean imagine somebody who bought Black Sabbath's album the first day it came out. So yeah, now that the Mystique is gone it's a bit of a bummer but it's pretty cool I was able to leave that stuff. I definitely miss papa I.
Well, I got into Ghost from watching the Secular Haze video. Loved that organ sound mixed with the rest of the style and the video reminded me of those old bandstand videos of the '70s.
I saw them live when they toured then and really enjoyed how far they went into the shtick with the incense and Papa II coming out with tue incense thing the priests use at mass.
I bought Opus after that show because of Con Clavi Con Dio and Elizabeth. Still enjoy that album at times.
Nowadays, the entire legal situation tarnished them for me. Now it just feels like a Tobias act. Its a bit too catchy for me. Not bad though..
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1). Opus
2) Meliora/Infest (Meliora is even, Infest has higher highs and lower lows)
4) Prequelle (by a significant margin)
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See The Light is probably the catchiest song I’ve heard in years. Gets stuck in my head for weeks at a time. Such a well written song.
Love that synth solo.
The keys for me are a highlight of the album. At the three minute mark of Miasma, the keys underneath the chugging guitar is my favorite moment on the album.
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See The Light is probably the catchiest song I’ve heard in years. Gets stuck in my head for weeks at a time. Such a well written song.
Love that synth solo.
The keys for me are a highlight of the album. At the three minute mark of Miasma, the keys underneath the chugging guitar is my favorite moment on the album.
Listened to Miasma on my way home today, such an awesome instrumental and then going into Dance Macabre... is just musical magic :metal I absolutely love how they added that into the Dance Macabre music video as well with Miasma in the background playing at the party.
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1). Opus
2) Meliora/Infest (Meliora is even, Infest has higher highs and lower lows)
4) Prequelle (by a significant margin)
My preference is similar for the same reasons
Opus/Meliora
Infestissumam
Prequelle
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I am a novice but growing Ghost fan, being introduced to them via Square Hammer in my roulette last year. I normally don't care when I get introduced to a band I end up liking, but it would have been cool to see Ghost develop from their beginning.
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It is amazing how they’ve progressed. I know I’ve said it a lot, but the first few years, the shows were creepy and they had a certain vibe to them. At the time, I didn’t know who any of the members were or what previous bands they were in, and I couldn’t tell if they were serious or not. Papa I and II didn’t talk very much, but they still had a cool presence. Then the shows got more theatrical and Papa talked more and did costume changes and such. But you know what? I still find their shows to be incredible and it has been fun watching them grow. I’m fortunate to have seen them when they started out.
We’re kinda back to the mysterious nature of the band members. I still have no clue who the bass player is or who the taller keyboard player is.
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Is there a band that has progressed as much as they have in four albums? :lol Not just musically but with the constant change of band members and Papa changing himself as well, I can only wonder how this band will be 5 or even 10 years from now if they are still around.
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The song RATS is awesome! Once you hear it a few times, it's pretty hard to get it out of your head. Even at work I got RATS going through my head all day.....RATS!!!!! :facepalm: :facepalm: :lol
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Yep, it is a fun and catchy song. I know many thought Prequelle wasn't as good as a lot of their prior albums, but I like it a lot and still spin it somewhat regularly.
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Tobias and his wife went to the Grammy's tonight, this time he went unmasked. They lost in both categories, one to Greta Van Fleet and one to St. Vincent (I've never heard of her...). After this, it's right back to Europe to continue the tour
(https://i.redd.it/ydn29yvuctf21.jpg)
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Maybe his face is familiar in the business but i'm guessing alot of "who are you?" went on.
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Damn, I was keeping my fingers crossed for another Grammy.
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Maybe his face is familiar in the business but i'm guessing alot of "who are you?" went on.
I noticed he gave at least one "unmasked" interview recently. Don't know how recognizable he is "in the industry" but it would have been amusing if he just showed up with no fanfare, no paparazzi, no one asking for an interview... just a lot of blank stares.
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I wonder how far he went back in the days when his identity was a mystery. I mean, you have to give at least some interviews in person, at concerts you show up early, talk with the promoters and so on... did he send all the roadies and tour managers to do the job and required an hidden room somewhere isolated in the backstage? did he never gave interviews in person? did he carry around a pile of NDA papers to sign for everyone?
I get the whole appeal of being anonymous but if you think about it, is it worth all the additional trouble of staying hidden? I wonder for example how Lordi can do it after so many years, since they wear full costumes.
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He was always the one that gave interviews as A Nameless Ghoul and he would speak in the 3rd person essentially. In the very early days of Ghost they actually did voice alteration but gave that up pretty quickly.
If you waited around after the show, the whole band would come out, out of costume, speak to you and even give you their real names, but then sign with only the symbol they represented or in Papa's case a "P.E." and simply ask that you not take any pictures. I know a band that toured with them, and when I first met them I was asking about Ghost and said, "Don't worry, I won't make you reveal their identity" and they responded, "I don't really think they care anymore" which they actually did, but it kinda shows you how loose they were with the crew, other bands, etc. I think they would just simply request, "Don't show our face our reveal our identity"
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What's funny to me is that he's completely open with his identity nowadays, but I still have no clue who some of the band members are currently. Back when they were secretive, I knew shortly after I got into them who was who. I think it was a few months after Opus was released and they toured that I knew about Magna Carta Cartel, SubVision, Repugnant, and his involvement with Crashdiet. But this new band, I don't know the bass player or one of the keyboard/percussion Ghoulettes.
Speaking of which, they did some BBC studio sessions recently as a full band. Pretty sure Tobias did this unmasked, his voice sounds different.
Rats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llY7GoA9ZJ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llY7GoA9ZJ0)
Faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-oAtQ1bbI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh-oAtQ1bbI)
Life Eternal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4bZVvTrjF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4bZVvTrjF8)
Dance Macabre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ludabT0Z6OM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ludabT0Z6OM)
These sound so good! I love their sound live and this current lineup is fantastic. I hope they don't go anywhere, but sadly they probably will. Hearing the backup vocals, it pretty much confirms to me that it's Mad Gallica on keys and vocals. She's got an amazing voice and really compliments TF's voice. These recordings really highlight that.
For anyone that's interested..
Mad Gallica's Bohemian Rhapsody One Woman Band Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HT5rb5Zwbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HT5rb5Zwbo)
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I heard Per Eriksson (ex-Katatonia) is one of the Ghouls and joined the band 2 years ago, which is why he's no longer involved with Bloodbath.
I get the whole appeal of being anonymous but if you think about it, is it worth all the additional trouble of staying hidden? I wonder for example how Lordi can do it after so many years, since they wear full costumes.
I know Lordi gives video interviews after the show while they're still wearing the costumes, unlike the majority of bands who usually do them before going on stage. However, Mr. Lordi is easily recognizable even unmasked, and I actually spotted him at a Thunderstone gig 3 years ago. :P
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Per is lead Guitar. He chopped off the long hair, so some people didn't recognize him at first after shows. He's jumped around a bit too. He was bass, then rhythm guitar, now lead
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I heard Per Eriksson (ex-Katatonia) is one of the Ghouls and joined the band 2 years ago, which is why he's no longer involved with Bloodbath.
I get the whole appeal of being anonymous but if you think about it, is it worth all the additional trouble of staying hidden? I wonder for example how Lordi can do it after so many years, since they wear full costumes.
I know Lordi gives video interviews after the show while they're still wearing the costumes, unlike the majority of bands who usually do them before going on stage. However, Mr. Lordi is easily recognizable even unmasked, and I actually spotted him at a Thunderstone gig 3 years ago. :P
I have a friend involved with a venue that hosted them, he told me they were not authorized to see them until they were in costume, but he also told me "well, they all came down from the tour bus anyway, so it must have been some of those we've seen" :P
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(https://i.imgur.com/Lux05tF.jpg)
Happy birthday Tobias, 38 years today :metal
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Hes only 38? He looks older to me, definitely thought he was mid to late 40s.
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Can't stop listening to Dance Macabre, they sure know how to write catchy songs.
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That was my Song Of The Year last year. Their best song together with Square Hammer.
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Off of the last album Rats is certainly the best song, and superior single imo.
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Both are really strong singles.
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Yeah if I were to make a Top 3 Ghost song list, those would be the three for me (DM, SH, and Rats).
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The sax part in Miasma is giving me tingles.
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Yeah if I were to make a Top 3 Ghost song list, those would be the three for me (DM, SH, and Rats).
Yea, this is a band where their singles are their best. Not that I dislike their other tracks, but those three songs are amazing.
The sax part in Miasma is giving me tingles.
Yea, maybe my favorite part on the album.... and then it goes into DM :metal :metal
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Yeah if I were to make a Top 3 Ghost song list, those would be the three for me (DM, SH, and Rats).
I don't think I could make a top 3 of songs, maybe not even a top 10. The only songs i don't absolutely love are Mummy Dust, Prime Mover, Depth of Satan's Eyes, Jigolo Har Megiddo and Faith. And even those, are good songs.
Now I'm thinking, maybe you were just talking about a Top 3 of the last album, in that case, nevermind.
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Yeah if I were to make a Top 3 Ghost song list, those would be the three for me (DM, SH, and Rats).
I don't think I could make a top 3 of songs, maybe not even a top 10. The only songs i don't absolutely love are Mummy Dust, Prime Mover, Depth of Satan's Eyes, Jigolo Har Megiddo and Faith. And even those, are good songs.
Now I'm thinking, maybe you were just talking about a Top 3 of the last album, in that case, nevermind.
No I was talking about all their songs overall.
I really like many of their songs, but for me those three stand above the others :smiley:
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Prequelle is the first Ghost release I can listen to from start to end. Normally, I find them patchy, but this one feels very complete to me.
And the last track is my favourite Ghost track of all. "Can you hear me say your name ... forever? ...." :tup
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Here are my top 4 Ghost songs:
1. Deus in absentia
2. Stand by him
3. Ghuleh / Zombie queen
4. Dance macabre
It's cool that it features a song from each album, and what's even more interesting is that the best song from Prequelle is below the others, even though Prequelle is my favorite album overall.
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http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghosts-tobias-forge-says-cardinal-copia-stage-character-will-return-for-next-album-cycle/?fbclid=IwAR10CxP9wcYQRGmbEaZY5mvF4Ehs827R-C5BO9aBiv6MEnSgDZnqNiYdwfQ (http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/ghosts-tobias-forge-says-cardinal-copia-stage-character-will-return-for-next-album-cycle/?fbclid=IwAR10CxP9wcYQRGmbEaZY5mvF4Ehs827R-C5BO9aBiv6MEnSgDZnqNiYdwfQ)
I'm cool with it, I liked the last album and if that means they do another album cycle building on the same sound, maybe they can build upon that success.
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"Right now, if everything goes according to plan, we're hoping for Cardi to be strong enough and cool enough to possibly do something that none of the previous ones have done, and that's basically to do two cycles," he continued. [...] Not even I liked him to begin with. But now I can't wait to see him hopefully accomplish these things and I really look forward to possibly seeing him in the skull paint and real papal attire."
There just has to be the Ghost version of the Habemus Papam when Cardinal Copia, rather than being dragged away at the last show like his predecessors, gets anointed Pope instead and is introduced by the ultra old Pope (the one who "plays" sax live) as Papa Emeritus IV or whatever.
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I take it as Cardinal becoming Papa next album cycle. No way they go four years without having the Papal attire, something I associate with Ghost. I hope something switches next album cycle, they always do.... right?
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The one thing I like about this "band" is the fact that so many self-professed authorities on metal have absolutely lost their shit over them. Ghost's success annoys them to no end and they deem them "NOT metal!!!" simply because the guitars aren't dropped tuned to oblivion, there are no machine gun double bass drums, and Tobias doesn't bark like a dog.
Tobias is a hell of a songwriter, but will probably never get the recognition he deserves due to being in a gimmick based band.
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Well they aren't a metal band right? I never considered them a metal band despite using the theme that's typical for metal bands to use. For me they're a rock band pure and simple.
I'm not sure why so many want to label them a metal band when they aren't? :lol
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"Self-professed authorities on metal," or any genre for that matter, are mostly nimrods anyway, so I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into what they say.
On topic, I have only been listening to this band for maybe two years now (cannot remember exactly when I first heard them), and have always thought of them as hard rock. Them being metal never crossed my mind.
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Perhaps it's more the image than the sound that says "metal" about them. I agree that they're more hard rock than anything.
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Music-wise they are rock, maybe hard rock if you want to make that distinction. The image is what people associate with metal, but then a rapper or a jazz singer wearing those masks (hypothetically) wouldn't be called metal. Those themes and images aren't exclusive to metal.
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I'd still call them metal, albeit very light metal. They've got plenty of songs that are far more rock than metal for sure, but as long as they're making songs like Cirice, Pinnacle to the Pit and Faith, that's enough to consider them at least part metal.
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I'd still call them metal, albeit very light metal. They've got plenty of songs that are far more rock than metal for sure, but as long as they're making songs like Cirice, Pinnacle to the Pit and Faith, that's enough to consider them at least part metal.
Right. Are they Napalm Death? Hell no, but I believe they have a number of songs that qualify as "metal". I've never actually seen or heard a compelling explanation for why they're absolutely not.
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The first two albums were mainly a mix of doom metal, the slow plodding and heavy thing that Black Sabbath invented, and '70s hard rock retro sounds. Meliora was different already and Prequelle is the easiest of them all and the more oriented to rock mostly.
Speaking of Meliora, for the longest time I couldn't connect with this album and, with all the stuff that is out there, I basically gave up on that and forgot about it. Today I listened to it again and it finally clicked, there are quite many good songs on this.
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US dates announced for fall 2019 tour!
After they did not hit the Seattle area on the previous tour, I scrolled through the dates anxiously looking for WA, and about had a heart attack when I saw the WA date was in Kennewick. Fortunately the following date is in Seattle.
Fri, SEP 13
Bakersfield, CA
Sat, SEP 14
Reno, NV
Mon, SEP 16
Portland, OR
Tue, SEP 17
Kennewick, WA
Thu, SEP 19
Seattle, WA
Fri, SEP 20
Vancouver, Canada
Sat, SEP 21
Penticton, Canada
Tue, SEP 24
Calgary, Canada
Thu, SEP 26
Spokane, WA
Fri, SEP 27
Boise, ID
Sat, SEP 28
West Valley City, UT
Mon, SEP 30
Loveland, CO
Tue, OCT 01
Colorado Springs, CO
Thu, OCT 03
Sioux Falls, SD
Fri, OCT 04
Fargo, ND
Sat, OCT 05
Minneapolis, MN
Mon, OCT 07
Green Bay, WI
Mon, OCT 14
Grand Rapids, MI
Sat, OCT 19
Portland, ME
Mon, OCT 21
Worcester, MA
Tue, OCT 22
Syracuse, NY
Thu, OCT 24
Hershey, PA
Fri, OCT 25
Trenton, NJ
Sat, OCT 26
Glens Falls, NY
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And the only chance I'll have to see them in Italy will be with Metallica... I mean, I'm going anyway and having Ghost opening for Metallica instead of any other random band is more than cool, but I wanted to see the full show and production. Well, enjoy it you people on the other side of the ocean attending the future tour!
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A third US leg? Trenton isn't really that interesting, I may pass on this one.
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They got Nothing More on this tour and Nothing More (who really delivered quite the intense set when I saw them in February) is coming off the backs of headlining their own tour in the US. Looking at the stops though, it looks like one of those "hit the B markets" tour covering areas that both bands didn't hit early this year or late last year.
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I was not expecting to see Ghost three times this album cycle. Cool that they’re playing The Armory here in MN. That means we’ll most likely get the arena show with pyro and such. Looking forward to it
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...it looks like one of those "hit the B markets"
I would think Kennewick, WA is at best a C market.
To all who have seen Ghost live, do people in the seated section usually sit, stand, combination of both? Usually opt for GA/pit tix but not sure what the crowd activity at a Ghost show is like.
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At the seated theater I saw them at, main floor all stood, balcony sat down. I think Cardinal made a comment about it
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What's up with tix for this upcoming tour? Are all the tix in GA reserved for the Cardianl Copia Photo-Op Package? I buy tix so rarely these days all these presale codes and package nonsense confuses me.
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I'll be seeing them as I said opening for Metallica, and a coworker is coming along to see mainly Metallica, even though she'd definitively not a metalhead and does not follow the scene at all.
My description of Ghost to her went incredibly well, I thought that someone who (even if she likes Metallica) follows mainly rap and pop would raise more eyebrows at "Well, they play retro hard rock, but they're very theatrical, so they present themselves as a satanic cult and the players are all with masks and the singer is a pope.... only that now there's a cardinal" ;D
I'll just have her listen to Dance Macabre and be hooked :lol
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My gf really enjoyed Dance Macabre when I showed it to her, didn't tell her about the band. Then explained the lyrics are "bewich you" not be with you and they are a satanic band, well that ended her interest and suddenly the song wasn't good anymore :lol
To all who have seen Ghost live, do people in the seated section usually sit, stand, combination of both? Usually opt for GA/pit tix but not sure what the crowd activity at a Ghost show is like.
The Barclays Arena show last December was a mix, it looked like a lot of people stood, but the arena wasn't full and people were definitely sitting in the further away sections.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxrzUe_TDM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxrzUe_TDM)
New song. Sung by a Young Papa Nihil. If you thought Ghost was getting too pop, you ain't gonna like this one.
Kiss The Go-Goat.
I'm excited to hear it without all the sound effects and clips.
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I haven't cared for the recent output very much, but I like this on a first listen, seems like it could have been an OE b-side. Reminds me of Stand By Him in a way
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxrzUe_TDM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyxrzUe_TDM)
New song. Sung by a Young Papa Nihil. If you thought Ghost was getting too pop, you ain't gonna like this one.
Kiss The Go-Goat.
I'm excited to hear it without all the sound effects and clips.
ya, its poppy, but I think thats the point. very kitschy.
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That was so much fun. Tobias never ceases to amaze.
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New EP coming out Friday the 13th apparently.
"Seven Inches of Satanic Panic"
1. Kiss The Go-Goat
2. Mary On A Cross
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"Seven Inches of Satanic Panic"
:facepalm: :lol
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WTF :lol
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Awesome :lol
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Heard the song, it's lucky that I'm in a moment when I'm very keen on retro / occult music, 'cause it falls in line with other bands I'm listening now, plus it's anyway a funny little song.
Anyway, you gotta admire Tobi's creativity. He writes a very retro sounding song, so how does he tie it with the mythology? but of course it's a song sang by a young Papa Nihil in the summer of love :lol
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Anyway, you gotta admire Tobi's creativity. He writes a very retro sounding song, so how does he tie it with the mythology? but of course it's a song sang by a young Papa Nihil in the summer of love :lol
No doubt there!
I am pretty new to the Ghost train so am not up on the mythology of the band. But damn if I don't enjoy the music. Can't wait to see the show in 7 days!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5mX3NkA7jM&pbjreload=10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5mX3NkA7jM&pbjreload=10)
Mary On A Cross
Goddamn, he writes catchy music.
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Two great songs, as expected. I've always really liked the catchy side of their style.
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Anyway, you gotta admire Tobi's creativity. He writes a very retro sounding song, so how does he tie it with the mythology? but of course it's a song sang by a young Papa Nihil in the summer of love :lol
No doubt there!
I am pretty new to the Ghost train so am not up on the mythology of the band. But damn if I don't enjoy the music. Can't wait to see the show in 7 days!
The backstory in short:
The band Ghost "belongs" to a satanic cult that wants to spread satanism throughout the world or whatever, they identify themselves as "the clergy", that's why whenever you see some announcement it's always "The Clergy wishes to inform you that....".
The whole thing is a spoof of the catholic church so the singer presents himself as "Papa Emeritus". After every album the "pope" got replaced, because he wasn't spreading the message good enough, and so Papa Emeritus got replaced with Emeritus II and he, in turn, with Emeritus III (always the same singer, Tobias Forge).
When Emeritus III got the boot, he got dragged by "security" out of the stage, and appeared a very, very old looking "pope", called "Papa Nihil" or "Papa 0", basically the mastermind of the whole thing. He announced a new chapter and eventually the new singer (again, always the same dude with a different character) was now a cardinal - Cardinal Copia, the current frontman. (It was becoming predictable and stale to change pope with every album, so they came up with the idea of a cardinal this time around).
So this is where we are now, and these two now songs, sounding very retro, are being presented as a 50th anniversary re-release of an album that never existed in the first place, and sung by Papa Nihil when he was young (in the video clip the caption clearly mark the year as 1969). I don't know which idea came first to Tobias - to have an EP with the "very old singer from the '60s" hence he wrote two songs in that style, or he happened to write two songs in that style and came up with the backstory of forgotten 1969 recordings to justify that.
The point is that there's a good theatricality and creative fun behind the whole Ghost image and it's not to be taken tremendously seriously, enjoy the ride and this mashup of satanic cults, slapstick comedy as it can be seen in the short videos they're posting on YouTube and good rocking music :metal
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MM, appreciate the summary. I knew the highlights but much of that fleshed out the details I wasn't aware of, and just make the mythology that much more awesome. Of course it is nothing without solid music, which they keep delivering.
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More great stuff from Ghost. 👍
The catchier the better for me.
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To anyone who has been to a show on the current tour... what time did Ghost's set start?
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Honestly don't care for either of these two tracks. It's kind of a cool story to do this though.
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As long as they play Elizabeth and Secular Haze.
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Anyone here going to the Seattle show?
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Great songs! Really catchy chorus! I've really enjoyed this whole mythology thing.
I've never see them live, i hope they come back to México soon.
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Looks like the new tour is shorter than the last few tours, only 20 songs this time around. Shouldn't a tour called: Ultimate Tour Named Death be the biggest and longest spectacle? Apparently the show is only an hour and a half
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Looks like the new tour is shorter than the last few tours, only 20 songs this time around. Shouldn't a tour called: Ultimate Tour Named Death be the biggest and longest spectacle? Apparently the show is only an hour and a half
Do they have an opener now? Last tour was an evening with format and they played two ~75 minute sets
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They do have an opener, but they did in Europe earlier the year (Candlemass) and still did the two 75 minute sets
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Damn, I've been listening to them a lot lately and I'm thinking about seeing them in December but ticket is so pricey... the fact I like Tribulation doesn't help either :lol
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I was thinking of the two "hippie" new songs and how they create a wonderful contrast with the image, or at least the perceived image, of the band :D
Casual person who knows next to nothing about Ghost: "Geez, here's another band posing as evil and obscure, look at those masks and costumes, I can only imagine what sordid dark lyrics they must have, they must be unholy litanies praising the devil or something"
Actual Ghost song: "You've been daddied by all the dudes who wanna dad"
:rollin
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I'm a casual Ghost fan - even that is too strong - but I REALLY liked "Kiss The Go-Goat". I'll check out Marysoon.
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I was thinking of the two "hippie" new songs and how they create a wonderful contrast with the image, or at least the perceived image, of the band :D
Casual person who knows next to nothing about Ghost: "Geez, here's another band posing as evil and obscure, look at those masks and costumes, I can only imagine what sordid dark lyrics they must have, they must be unholy litanies praising the devil or something"
Actual Ghost song: "You've been daddied by all the dudes who wanna dad"
:rollin
Well, it's not like it's that much different than your normal Ghost reaction. Only a subset of their music really relates to their image IMO.
Honestly never cared for the satanist image, but since they don't take it seriously it's a lot easier for me to enjoy and doing songs that don't fit that satanist image is pretty cool in my mind. Dance Macabre is a good example too.
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Indeed, that's the fun part of it, the whole dark / satanic side of the band is clearly not taken seriously.
Speaking of Dance Macabre, it's indeed a nice contrast; the image of the band plus the subject matter (two lovers preparing to die from the plague) would brace anyone for a very dark song, but instead you get a '80s revival that could, would and should have been a crossover summer hit :lol
I wonder how many casual listeners are sure the chorus goes "I wanna be with you" never realizing it's "I wanna bewitch you".
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I wonder how many casual listeners are sure the chorus goes "I wanna be with you" never realizing it's "I wanna bewitch you".
I was one of them :lol My x really liked that song and when I told her the real lyric she no longer was interested
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Didn't Tobias claim to have seriously embraced Satanism as a younger man? Just asking out of curiosity as it doesn't really seem too serious in the music, and it doesn't bother me any more than any other lyrical content I don't agree with (and there's a lot).
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I think he has said he embraced the cultural aspect of Satanism like the music, film, and iconography. He grew up around heavy metal because of his brother. He was never into the Anton LeVey side of it. He hated religion though because he had negative experiences with it from teachers. He’s also said he appreciates some aspects of Christianity, and used to visit churches when on tour because he loves the architecture and aesthetic. He’s also expressed a belief in some spiritual force, I think in an interview he said life is too strange for there not to be something after this. He just doesn’t know what.
So short answer, he’s not a satanist, but likes the pop culture element around it. I still remember when they first came around, not being sure what the hell I was watching.
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Thanks for that (seriously). That sort of gives me a perspective for some of the things I'm seeing with him and the band.
I think I'm turning into a fan...
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Saw Ghost live last night for the first time. Was very impressed with the show, the presentation, and the venue, which I had not been to before. I feel some people are born to sing (James LaBrie), some are born to sing on stage (Freddie Mercury, Bruce Dickinson), and maybe some are just meant to be on stage, like Tobias. That isn't a knock on his singing. I just feel he could do pretty much anything on stage in front of an audience and make it entertaining.
Did not realize the Cardinal was so vulgar. Is Tobias always like that or is that a characteristic of the Cardinal? My 8 year old daughter almost went to the show with me. I would have had to explain to her what it meant when Tobias asked if a certain song "tickled our taint."
Thinking about the show afterward, it seems like they are a fun band to be a fan of. Lots of bands I consider myself a fan of, but only because I enjoy the music. Being a fan of Ghost feels fun.
After the show some guy was saying before the show as they were testing the pyros one of them caught a curtain on fire. If true glad that didn't turn in to something disastrous.
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Cardinal Copia and Papa III were pretty vulgar characters, but they are essentially the same character. He says the same stuff as he did as Papa III. Papa I and II barely talked, but the papal robes with the cross staff were pretty damn intimidating in person and that alone had stage presence. Shows were fun back then too when they had minimal lighting and backdrops. They just have great stage presence.
How long was the show? I’ve heard hour and a half, which is kinda disappointing.
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Wasn't keeping track of time but that sonds about right, maybe 9p-1040p. I got there about the time the opener was wrappign up (by design, I had a busy day) so I onyl saw the Ghost set. It felt short if I thought in terms of a DT "Evening with...." show but otherwise it didn't feel disappointingly short.
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Did not realize the Cardinal was so vulgar. Is Tobias always like that or is that a characteristic of the Cardinal? My 8 year old daughter almost went to the show with me. I would have had to explain to her what it meant when Tobias asked if a certain song "tickled our taint."
I saw them open for Iron Maiden a couple of years ago. He went on and on before one song talking about orgasms. I mean, c'mon, give me a break. How fucking lame.
That said, I thought they were really good. I haven't been able to get into their studio albums, but I bought the live album after that tour and it's pretty good. I became a fan of that band, as they change members quite a bit.
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This whole album cycle, the tours have been two and a half hours, so it kinda feels weird to have a shorter set, but now I’m just sounding spoiled. Glad you had fun and witnessed the spectacle of Ghost in concert. They truly are something else. So cool!
The crowds have definitely evolved. When I first started seeing them 8 years ago, it was a bunch of metal heads, very few women. Now there’s kids, grandmas, grandpas, teens, everybody in between. It’s really cool to see that evolution, although I do hope Ghost never becomes the concert that people talk loudly to each other during songs they don’t care about. At Ghost concerts, everyone seems to be there to listen to the music. It’s great
As for TAC, that band on the live album is still mostly there. The bass player is new and the keyboardists are different in that there are two of them and both women. But its still the same drummer and guitarists (lead and rhythm switched places though).
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The crowds have definitely evolved. When I first started seeing them 8 years ago, it was a bunch of metal heads, very few women. Now there’s kids, grandmas, grandpas, teens, everybody in between. It’s really cool to see that evolution, although I do hope Ghost never becomes the concert that people talk loudly to each other during songs they don’t care about. At Ghost concerts, everyone seems to be there to listen to the music. It’s great
I was a pretty diverse crowd, though I only saw two kids, one of them being a friend and classmate of my daughter. The other was dressed in full Papa (I am not sure which one, I don't know them that well by sight). Everyone did seem totally in to it, not many significant others who were only there because their boy/girlfriend/spouse asked them to join them.
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Cardinal Copia and Papa III were pretty vulgar characters, but they are essentially the same character. He says the same stuff as he did as Papa III. Papa I and II barely talked, but the papal robes with the cross staff were pretty damn intimidating in person and that alone had stage presence. Shows were fun back then too when they had minimal lighting and backdrops. They just have great stage presence.
Yeah, I understand that bands grow and evolve and I enjoyed a lot to see them opening for Metallica (even though they're not a band for daylight), but sometimes I miss the earlier era as well. The show, from what I've seen even in a reduced way with Metallica and by YouTube videos, is very cool, and I would have loved to see the full show with two sets from them, but Papa Emeritus II, with the tiara and the cross staff, was a sight to behold. There's nothing wrong with the masks and the red cardinal outfit but having an actual "dark pope" with full regalia singing was definitively something to behold (which I did only once..... once again in daylight, at a Sonisphere festival :facepalm: )
Can't imagine however Emeritus II singing Dance Macabre while holding a staff :D
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Papa II was depicted as having intense sexual charisma offstage, so maybe it would work :lol
Off topic, but I think I've mentioned it before, I keep forgetting how annoying the Ghost Reddit page is. It used to be entertaining to visit years ago, but since Square Hammer and now Dance Macabre, it's just a bunch of new fans who dismiss Opus and Infestissumam as forgettable albums and boring and talk about how sexy Cardinal Copia is and how cute Tobias is. They keep trying to connect everything to the "Lore" of Ghost. I read one the other day where they said: "Maybe they dropped Monstrance Clock from the setlist because Sister Imperator was pregnant with Copia and now the antichrist is here with Copia. The lyrics talk about that."
No, they probably dropped it because they are playing arenas and needed a solid rocker to close the set, not the theatrical Monstrance Clock. You can't connect lyrics from six years ago to what's happening now. Tobias has said before the story he's doing now is because the record label wanted a story, so he threw something together.
Luckily, I think the Ghost reddit, is a small group of Ghost fans :lol
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Doesn't sound that different than the DT side of this forum sometimes :lol
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I like the mythology of Ghost, but we're speaking of a wacky satanist cult where a cardinal gets "Employee of the Month" awards and goes around on a trycicle, while the head of the organization re-releases non-existant albums from 50 years ago. I mean, it's cool and all but I wouldn't spend too much time trying to figure it all out like if it was season 1 of Westworld or something :lol
Anyway, you're on a Ghost roll, you want to hear all the albums but don't have time? no problem, listen to the whole albums in 2 minutes each! There's a guy who does a lot of acoustic and mellow stuff on YouTube, and he created medleys for Ghost's entire discography! check them out, they're very cool:
Opus Eponymus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjW14hzEiZw
Infestissumam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cobaGOEa1KY
Meliora: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkBgrjjXoVU
Prequelle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61gkhlEsnlE
7 Inches of Satanic Panic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpO1mmp_JnI
And the playlist which I found out only when I copied and pasted all the links :lol :
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXmYAgnLvf-2gEoiiBSCOyDh8yLqgYTpG
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The next Ghost album will be fronted by Papa Emeritus IV.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/next_ghost_album_will_be_fronted_by_papa_emeritus_iv_tobias_forge_announces.html
So no Cardinal Copia then.
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What about Cardinal Copia being elected Papa Emeritus?
Come on, this is such a long time coming that it will be a huge missed opportunity if they don't turn the cardinal into a pope, and especially if they don't do it live on stage.
Tobias said they'll play only one show in 2020 - could this be the show for the DVD he wants to film? at the end Papa Nihil could come out, like he did when he booted Emeritus III, and instead do the Habemus Papam:
Nuntio vobis gaudium magnum; habemus Papam!
Eminentissimum ac Reverendissimum Dominum,
Dominum Copia,
Qui sibi nomen imposuit Emeritus Quarti!
(They could switch Eminentissimum and Reverendissimum with latin terms for, dunno, blasphemous, demoniac and whatever)
Then Tobias could come out dressed as Emeritus IV giving something to wait for to the fans until the next album in 2021.
Come on, they're already a spoof of the catholic church, they have a cardinal and they want to have a pope - if they don't do their own version of the Habemus Papam, I'll be pissed :lol
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Just came back from seeing Ghost at The Armory here in Minneapolis. The band as usual was on fire. They get more and more entertaining each time they pass through. So much fun to see. It was great seeing them live with a bigger lighting rig, pyro, smoke, explosions, etc. It added to the overall show.
Here's some videos I took. I'm no cram, but I do okay with my shots:
Dance Macabre/Square Hammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzrqRZs03kI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzrqRZs03kI)
Year Zero: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GFo9yTf-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GFo9yTf-w)
The one thing I gotta say, and I knew this was going to happen with a bigger venue, and the fact that the band is getting bigger, but the crowd tonight....Every previous time I've seen Ghost, and it's a lot, the crowd is quiet throughout. I mean, they cheer and everything when it's an energetic song and give him a response when he asks for a loud cheer--normal concert stuff. But when the parts were quiet or the interlude like Spoksonat, Devil Church, the guitar battle before Cirice, the intro/outro to Year Zero, they would just stand there watching what was happening onstage. It was great, everyone was there to watch the show.
The crowd tonight. Talked loudly during the songs mentioned above and would talk over Tobias' talking parts. I knew this was going to happen once they moved into the arenas, but it was awful tonight. It was obvious plenty were there to only see Square Hammer and Dance Macabre. I felt bad for the guy standing next to me because the whole night, he stood against the rail, very respectful guy, would record some songs, but mostly just stood there and watched. During Square Hammer, he's filming it, and this lady behind him (who was loud all night and talked about her 2 year old at home loudly during the Cirice guitar battle) starts grinding up on him and putting her hands over the camera and touching him. It wasn't done in a flirtatious manner, it was done to annoy him. I heard him turn around and say to her to stop. She kept doing it. Why spend money on a ticket to hear two songs and talk through the rest. It's annoying.
I hate fan gatekeeping, but Ghost is way more than those two songs. Respect what came before, there were plenty of us there tonight who have been to plenty of shows and want to hear everything. Just because you haven't heard Zombie Queen before doesn't mean you talk through it. It was just annoying.
Overall though, I enjoyed watching the band and hearing the songs (Zombie Queen is so much fun live as is Satan Prayer). Tobias is quite the entertainer and is so theatrical. Even in the arena, they don't really lose that theatrical nature. I'm looking forward to seeing their stage setup evolve over time. Sadly, we won't see them pass through again until 2021 at the earliest. Looking forward to it!
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That's a nice big crowd for them, that's cool to see, but that lady annoying that guy would make me livid. I can't say I've ever had anyone fuck with my phone or camera before. I'd totally tell them to fuck off and make sure the camera was still rolling to record the encounter :lol
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Ghost were so good tonight! They played for about 2 hours and I never lost interest at any point. The whole show was theatrical, the set was pretty much perfect and it was a 'show' in every sense of the word. I now appreciate songs such as He Is and Square Hammer way more.
Next time they play near me I want to try an experiment and take along a friend, who has zero interest in this sort of music, and see what they think! Can't imagine anyone not finding something to enjoy :tup
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Cardinal became Papa IV tonight in Mexico and Papa Nihil is dead. The story never mattered to me, but at least the Prequelle tour cycle has ended and it’s time for the next album early next year!
(https://i.imgur.com/rLjFoAj.jpg)
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I've read that it happened during Miasma. They should have really done their version of the Habemus Papam, I'd figure that at the end of the show Papa Nihil would come out doing it, and then Cardinal Copia would have been introduced as the new Papa.
Anyway, the mythology is just a fun addition to the lore of the band, we all saw it coming that a cardinal would become a pope, now let's wait for the next album! what kind of style does inspire you the new outfit? it's hard to pinpoint, it's more.... dunno, "festive" than I expected.
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Nice! I suspect they will focus on writing and recording this year.
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I love all of this. :lol
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(https://i.imgur.com/O8GucJA.png)
I grabbed some pics from their Instagram of the new Papa.
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Nice! I suspect they will focus on writing and recording this year.
He’s been working on it since January. The album will be done by the end of summer, he just doesn’t want to release it during the elections, or at least he’s saying that. He said Ghost won’t be dormant for the year, something’s gonna be released at some point unrelated to the new album. He said that awhile ago, so maybe something changed.
As for Mirror Mask’s question, I’m wondering the same thing as to what the new album will be like. He’s said it will be more riff oriented as Prequelle was top ballad heavy, so hopefully we get something heavier. I assume it’s gonna be another pop metal album as he said he can’t alienate the new fans he’s acquired. I’m really gonna miss Ghost in the small theaters....
But the new costume does look festive, you’re right! I’m gonna be happy with whatever they release, he’s never released a dud song or album.
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Miasma, where Papa Nihil collapses at the end instead of playing the last note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derc8fhfBlg
Then Cardinal Copia reaches the stage, a bunch of nuns surround him, clothes fly out, robes are brought in, the circle opens and lo and behold.... Papa Emeritus IV! :hefdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk31iP6Ck1Y
I still think it was a huge missed opportunity to have an "habemus papam" announcement, but this was wickedly cool, I can only imagine how it must have been for people in attendance!
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That was actually pretty awesome, I can only imagine the surprise and spectacle of the venue once Papa Nihil collapsed.
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Then Cardinal Copia reaches the stage, a bunch of nuns surround him, clothes fly out, robes are brought in, the circle opens and lo and behold.... Papa Emeritus IV! :hefdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk31iP6Ck1Y
That was totally wicked! Part of me wants to have my 87 year-old Mormon mother watch this just to see her reaction. :lol :2metal:
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I’m kinda surprised that there wasn’t a video today on YouTube, another entry in those videos they’ve been doing. I’m sure there will be one soon
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That was pretty cool
the mythology is just a fun addition to the lore of the band
Yup, the music is what I enjoy but the spectacle of it all and the story adds a layer of fun to the band.
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I'm hoping the Ghouls will have a new look for the next album, too.
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I hope so too. I feel like they missed an opportunity to have plague doctor masks. I mean, they used to have the Venetian masks, so I don’t think it would be too hard to do.
If it wasn’t for Copia’s extravagant wardrobe, I would have said the lack of change for the Ghouls was because Martin wasn’t in the band so the costume guy wasn’t there anymore. I do wonder too if these weren’t his final garments for Papa IV, they didn’t seem as full as the other Papa garments, but maybe that was the point. And he did put them on right there onstage, so that could be it too.
The next era, I hope there is a bit of a change in Copia‘s character. There isn’t much difference between Papa III and the Cardinal, it was kinda the same shtick and same lines. I miss Papa II. He was a the best. Dark, but he also had some funny quips in between songs.
But I kinda feel like there won’t be too much change.
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I wish there was some way every stop on the tour could experience this, but I get that once it happens the first time, it's all over the internet and thus the surprise nature of the reveal is lost.
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Miasma, where Papa Nihil collapses at the end instead of playing the last note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derc8fhfBlg
Then Cardinal Copia reaches the stage, a bunch of nuns surround him, clothes fly out, robes are brought in, the circle opens and lo and behold.... Papa Emeritus IV! :hefdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zk31iP6Ck1Y
I still think it was a huge missed opportunity to have an "habemus papam" announcement, but this was wickedly cool, I can only imagine how it must have been for people in attendance!
In the second video, I wonder how many fans in the live audience realized that it was an ABBA song playing during the entire sequence that led up to the Papa Emeritus IV reveal. That was so cool.
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I hope so too. I feel like they missed an opportunity to have plague doctor masks. I mean, they used to have the Venetian masks, so I don’t think it would be too hard to do.
On the latest leg of the european tour they had plague doctors wandering around the stage and "inspecting" the audience before Miasma started.
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I hope so too. I feel like they missed an opportunity to have plague doctor masks. I mean, they used to have the Venetian masks, so I don’t think it would be too hard to do.
If it wasn’t for Copia’s extravagant wardrobe, I would have said the lack of change for the Ghouls was because Martin wasn’t in the band so the costume guy wasn’t there anymore. I do wonder too if these weren’t his final garments for Papa IV, they didn’t seem as full as the other Papa garments, but maybe that was the point. And he did put them on right there onstage, so that could be it too.
The next era, I hope there is a bit of a change in Copia‘s character. There isn’t much difference between Papa III and the Cardinal, it was kinda the same shtick and same lines. I miss Papa II. He was a the best. Dark, but he also had some funny quips in between songs.
But I kinda feel like there won’t be too much change.
I thought for sure the plague doctor masks were going to be part of their new look, but they weren't. There's a band called AD INFINITUM that currently has the male members of the band donning plague doctor masks. The singer is female and doesn't wear one.
I have the devil mask from the Meliora era. It weighed a lot more than I expected. I made the mistake of wearing it for a 6 hour Halloween party and my neck paid dearly for it. I'm thinking the ones the band wore HAD to be lighter and made of something other than resin.
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On the latest leg of the european tour they had plague doctors wandering around the stage and "inspecting" the audience before Miasma started.
I know. The show I was at, they didn’t turn the stage lights back on, so you couldn’t see what was going on. I was kinda looking forward to it too because I thought it looked kinda cool
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Ghost, Hellacopters - Sympathy for the Devil (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEeL4kVFD4I)
I think Ghost are working on a new album, Tobias doing vocals on this is interesting. He sounds different, maybe a sign for their next album. However, this cover song is kind of perfect for them
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I've read many bad comments on a link, then heard the song and, as a moderate acquaintance with it (I mean, of course I know the song, but it's not that I go searching for it 'cause I want to listen to it, I'm not into the Stones), I found it just fine. Nice "Hey we're still alive" nod from Tobias.
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Ghost is touring in early 2022.
https://ghost-official.com/#tour
Not thrilled about our show here being on a Monday, but I may still go.
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I may go see them at the Honda Center in Anaheim on 03/03/22. It's pretty close by. They are touring with Volbeat. I mean I'm not a huge fan of either bands, but I don't hate either bands, so if the right ticket price comes along, we'll see.
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Nothing in my neck of the woods. Nothing in the southeast at all. No Atlanta, no NC, not even a D.C. date. Closest show is Hershey, PA on a Tuesday and that ain't gonna happen. Oh well.
On the bright side, I would assume an Album announcement is just around the corner. :metal
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I am so psyched to see Ghost/Volbeat/Twin Temple! This will be the first concert where I've liked all 3 bands since I saw Queensryche/Dream Theater/Fates Warning back in 2003. But I'm even more excited about a new album from Ghost because their last two (as well as that Seven Inches Of Satanic Panic single) were amazing
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coming from SFV to Anaheim on a weekday probably won't happen, or at least im not gonna buy a ticket until I know I'd be able to go. So probably the day-of, if at all. Not the end of the world if I miss this one though, but excited for a new album!
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I got in their music a couple years ago via a submission in my roulette, and saw them on their last tour. Thought it was a great show! Not sure I will make this one but I would encourage anyone who likes their music to go if they have the chance.
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I am so psyched to see Ghost/Volbeat
Yes, definitely. Feb. 10th for me in NJ. Good double bill. :metal
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Why are they playing Ohio three times? Do people from Sweden think Ohio is as big as Texas?
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I am so psyched to see Ghost/Volbeat
Yes, definitely. Feb. 10th for me in NJ. Good double bill. :metal
Same. Will try to make the Prudential show and am happy with the double bill.
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I want new music, damnit. I'm not interested at all in touring since I never go to gigs :P
But I understand that every band out there is itching to get back on the road now after this pandemic.
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I want new music, damnit. I'm not interested at all in touring since I never go to gigs :P
But I understand that every band out there is itching to get back on the road now after this pandemic.
Well usually touring means new music comes with it. Not always but given the timing since the last album, it seems likely that new music isn't too far away.
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https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw (https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw)
New song. Hunter’s Moon from the new Halloween movie coming out soon!
This song was rumored last year when it popped up on a Swedish recording site. I hope the new album isn’t like this. It’s catchy, but sounds a bit too poppy. It doesn’t really sound like Ghost to me.
I do like it overall.
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https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw (https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw)
New song. Hunter’s Moon from the new Halloween movie coming out soon!
This song was rumored last year when it popped up on a Swedish recording site. I hope the new album isn’t like this. It’s catchy, but sounds a bit too poppy. It doesn’t really sound like Ghost to me.
I do like it overall.
Nice surprise this morning. I liked it, and although it is a bit poppy, it's no more poppy than some of their other songs. It totally sounds like Ghost to me and I'm just happy to have some new music from them. Prequelle is easily one of my top 10 albums of the last 3 years!
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Like it v much. The pop / rock level feels great to me. I find myself tiring of stuff without any pop/strong-vocal-song sensibilities real fast these days so happy days over here.
Really hoping for a new album announcement soon.
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I want new music, damnit.
Ask and you shall receieve :lol
I haven't had the opportunity to listen yet (I'm stuck at work for another hour) but I'll be giving it a spin or two tonight.
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Song is just OK on first listen. I don't mind the poppiness, but it's not connecting with me immediately.
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Ghost is weird to me. I saw them live, and really dug them. I liked the singles from the last record a lot, and I REALLY like this song. But for some reason I've never taken the full plunge and bought a CD or invested any time in them. Don't know why. It's almost as if the whole schtick is subliminally off-putting or something. Haha.
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Why are they playing Ohio three times? Do people from Sweden think Ohio is as big as Texas?
Ohio is about the same size as England. And while Columbus is centrally located, the other two cities border on other states (Toledo on the Michigan border, and Cincinnati on the Ohio/Kentucky/Indiana border), so are serving areas bigger than just Ohio itself.
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Ghost is weird to me. I saw them live, and really dug them. I liked the singles from the last record a lot, and I REALLY like this song. But for some reason I've never taken the full plunge and bought a CD or invested any time in them. Don't know why. It's almost as if the whole schtick is subliminally off-putting or something. Haha.
Man, I will tell you, I was with you...but, and this is a big but, the Meloria record is a masterpiece.
I think once I made the connection between them and Kiss (which I think that record does), I was 'all-in'
If you are going to 'try,' I'd check that record out...it's pretty fantastic.
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https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw (https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw)
New song. Hunter’s Moon from the new Halloween movie coming out soon!
This song was rumored last year when it popped up on a Swedish recording site. I hope the new album isn’t like this. It’s catchy, but sounds a bit too poppy. It doesn’t really sound like Ghost to me.
I do like it overall.
Sure it does. This is what Ghost sounds like in 2021. :)
And I think Tobias Forge's vocal style is so distinct that almost anything he sings will have what most consider that Ghost feel.
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Man, I will tell you, I was with you...but, and this is a big but, the Meloria record is a masterpiece.
Yep, it's really good, and Prequelle is just as good, IMO. The first three Ghost albums are all pretty spotty if you ask me, but those last two are keepers.
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I agree but I think Prequelle is better than Meloria, for my money. I tried with the first two albums back when the second album came out, as there was a real buzz around the band. It wasn't until Prequelle that I became a real fan :metal
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I'm game; I'll give it a try!
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I agree but I think Prequelle is better than Meloria, for my money. I tried with the first two albums back when the second album came out, as there was a real buzz around the band. It wasn't until Prequelle that I became a real fan :metal
And here I thought that record was called Meliora. ;)
But that record is really the bomb. Was lukewarm on their other works, but here it all fits.
Haven't listened to Prequelle enough to say if it's as good.
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I'm game; I'll give it a try!
Stadler I'm interested to get your take when you've explored a little. I want to chime in and say that I rank their studio albums as follows: S/T - generally good, Infestissumam - very good, Meliora - modern masterpiece, Prequelle - modern masterpiece. They really outdid themselves with Meliora and Prequelle and the biggest selling point of the trajectory of this band is their combination of styles, influences, and willingness to be accessible on their own terms. The songs have engaging riffs, plentiful keyboards, and a high degree of dynamics. They touch on all the things that are great about metal, pop, rock, and combine them in their unique way. To me the music comes first with this band, the imagery/mythos are just added enjoyment.
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https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw (https://youtu.be/2Q0p5j9pojw)
New song. Hunter’s Moon from the new Halloween movie coming out soon!
This song was rumored last year when it popped up on a Swedish recording site. I hope the new album isn’t like this. It’s catchy, but sounds a bit too poppy. It doesn’t really sound like Ghost to me.
I do like it overall.
Sure it does. This is what Ghost sounds like in 2021. :)
And I think Tobias Forge's vocal style is so distinct that almost anything he sings will have what most consider that Ghost feel.
Oh it's Ghost alright. And I like how it's if with each new Papa, we get a music style based on that Papa. Almost as if each Papa is the musical maestro that determines what style of music the Nameless Ghouls play.
And this is the style of the New Papa.
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Ghost are seriously great at producing, melodic, nuanced rock/metal songs that also often have a message to grab onto. Forever from Prequelle is my abs favourite, touching on the transience of love and existence "Can you hear me say your name forever?" - all wrapped up in a super-fun Satanic Catholic aesthetic. Brilliant band.
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My favourite song of them tends to switch between Dance Macabre and Square Hammer. But I really like the earlier stuff too like Year Zero, Body And Blood, Stand By Him, and Mummy Dust.
Album ranking?
Infestissumam
Prequelle
Meliora
Opus Eponymous
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Prequelle
Meliora
Opus Eponymous
Infestissumam
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Prequelle
Meliora
Opus Eponymous
Infestissumam
You're not wrong
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Meloria
Prequelle
Infestissumam
Opus
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I'll go with:
Meliora
Prequelle
Opus Eponymous
Infestissumam
I enjoyed Opus quite a bit when it came out, as it kind of sounded like a darker, "metal" version of Blue Oyster Cult. Then Infestissumam was a bit of disappointment for me - still good, but didn't grab me like the debut. Meliora instead is SO good - I remember thinking this could be one of those albums with the potential to appeal to a very broad swath of metal fans (and I guess it did!). I say it as a good thing - the songwriting is fantastic on that one. Prequelle is a maybe "poppier", but almost as good as Meliora for me...Another batch of great songs (and Miasma is one of my favorite instrumentals of the past few years)
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Prequelle
Meliora
Opus Eponymous
Infestissumam
You're not wrong
Closer to right than wrong.
For me, the new song doesn't really move the needle. It's similar to the tracks from 7 inches of satanic blood in that it sounds almost retro, but it doesn't pack the same punch. I'm hoping the album is ok though. Prequelle was a big step in the right direction.
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I am confused, Hunter's Moon does not sound any more poppy to me than the catchier tracks of their previous albums. Anyways, I like it a lot.
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Loving this new single. I agree it sounds similar to 7 Inches of Satanic Panic, but it's better than both of those songs in my opinion.
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New song is alright, I'll probably enjoy it more after subsequent listens. But I also tend to enjoy Ghost on an album basis, I rarely think "I want to listen to this one Ghost song..."
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https://open.spotify.com/track/1vWvFabQjPkXPtqv61YOhD?si=HXBUv0UcTwaZhgp6vQuPaA&utm_source=copy-link (https://open.spotify.com/track/1vWvFabQjPkXPtqv61YOhD?si=HXBUv0UcTwaZhgp6vQuPaA&utm_source=copy-link)
New song by Me and That Man, featuring guest vocals from Tobias Forge.
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They just released some European tour dates for 2022:
APR 9 ENG, Manchester, Arena
APR 11 ENG, London, O2 Arena
APR 13 SCO, Glasgow, Hydro
APR 15 ENG, Birmingham, RWA Arena
APR 17 NLD, Rotterdam, RTM Stage Ahoy
APR 18 FRA, Paris, Accor Arena
APR 19 GER, Cologne, Lanxess Arena
APR 21 GER, Leipzig, Quarterback Immobillen Arena
APR 22 GER, Frankfurt, Festhalle
APR 24 CZE, Prague, Arena
APR 27 FIN, Tampere, Nokia Arena
APR 29 SWE, Stockholm, Avicii Arena
APR 30 NOR, Oslo, Spektrum
MAY 1 SWE, Malmö, Malmö Arena
MAY 3 BEL, Brussels, Vorst Nationaal
MAY 5 ITA, Milan, Mediolanum Forum
MAY 7 SPA, Barcelona, Olympic Arena Badalona
MAY 8 SPA, Madrid, Vistalegre Arena
MAY 11 AUT, Vienna, Stadthalle
MAY 13 SWI, Zurich, Hallenstadion
MAY 15 GER, Hannover TUI Arena
MAY 16 GER, Munich, Olympiahalle
MAY 18 HUN, Budapest, Arena
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I'll believe it when I'll see it, as for all the other concerts still pending, for now... yay!
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The tour is named Imperatour. I guess the album will be called Imperator, which sounds good to me. :tup
Also, how about that empty space on the poster after Budapest? Perfect spot for a show in Belgrade. ;)
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We wish to inform you that "Call Me Little Sunshine" is out now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2m_iqD7dI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD2m_iqD7dI)
Pre-order & pre-save IMPERA, the new album out March 11th.
https://ghost.lnk.to/ImperaPreOrder (https://ghost.lnk.to/ImperaPreOrder)
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(https://www.bengans.se/bilder/artiklar/4226132.jpg?m=1642662388)
1. Imperium
2. Kaisarion
3. Spillways
4. Call Me Little Sunshine
5. Hunter's Moon
6. Watcher In The Sky
7. Dominion
8. Twenties
9. Darkness At The Heart Of My Love
10. Griftwood
11. Bite Of Passage
12. Respite On The Spitalfields
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Nice, I figured that Hunter's Moon would be included as a bonus track but it's in the regular tracklist.
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11. Bite Of Passage
Turn the fork, eat through the plate
The great buffet to reach a chubbier state
A bite of passage...
The final meal, to eat at home
Unlock the spoon and lay the tablecloth
A bite of passage...
;D
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That was the least impressive Ghost song (single) I’ve heard in quite a while. I liked the main riff but the song itself was rather bland upon first listen.
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11. Bite Of Passage
Turn the fork, eat through the plate
The great buffet to reach a chubbier state
A bite of passage...
The final meal, to eat at home
Unlock the spoon and lay the tablecloth
A bite of passage...
;D
Hilarious.
I would die laughing if that song turned out to be an actual DT parody song.
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11. Bite Of Passage
Turn the fork, eat through the plate
The great buffet to reach a chubbier state
A bite of passage...
The final meal, to eat at home
Unlock the spoon and lay the tablecloth
A bite of passage...
;D
:rollin well played, Sir!
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That was the least impressive Ghost song (single) I’ve heard in quite a while. I liked the main riff but the song itself was rather bland upon first listen.
Yeah I wasn't blown away by it, perhaps it will grow on me after repeated listens.
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That was the least impressive Ghost song (single) I’ve heard in quite a while. I liked the main riff but the song itself was rather bland upon first listen.
Yeah I wasn't blown away by it, perhaps it will grow on me after repeated listens.
Felt more or less the same way after one go, although I have to say - in typical Ghost fashion - by the end of the song the hook had already started to seriously worm its way into my brain ;D
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7. Dominion
I'm sure there's no relation, but I find it funny that the Christian rock band Skillet just last week released an album and title track called Dominion and here comes the Satanic band Ghost with a song of the same name :lol
Cool news to see the album is coming pretty soon though!
11. Bite Of Passage
Turn the fork, eat through the plate
The great buffet to reach a chubbier state
A bite of passage...
The final meal, to eat at home
Unlock the spoon and lay the tablecloth
A bite of passage...
;D
:lol
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I am getting a strong Cirice vibe from the tempo and the riffs. The chorus is also very solid. I am looking forward to the album. To me, Prequelle was the best album of the last ten years, so we might be in for a treat once again.
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Apple has the album listed as 29 minutes long. That can't possibly be right, is it? I mean, the album is also missing tracks 1 and 12, so maybe that's part of the problem. 29min for 12 songs would be ridiculous. Except for a punk band, I suppose.
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Apple has the album listed as 29 minutes long. That can't possibly be right, is it? I mean, the album is also missing tracks 1 and 12, so maybe that's part of the problem. 29min for 12 songs would be ridiculous. Except for a punk band, I suppose.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impera
Looks like it's the usual 45' (give or take) album.....
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After one listen, I like this a lot. Also just read:
[Papa Emeritus IV] is stated to be the first frontman to not be a part of the Emeritus bloodline, though it is heavily implied he is the bastard son of Papa Nihil and Sister Imperator.
I can't follow the lore of this band, and I still love it!
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After one listen, I like this a lot. Also just read:
[Papa Emeritus IV] is stated to be the first frontman to not be a part of the Emeritus bloodline, though it is heavily implied he is the bastard son of Papa Nihil and Sister Imperator.
I can't follow the lore of this band, and I still love it!
Well, for the first three albums there were Papa Emeritus I, II and III, they were all children of Papa Nihil - you might remember him from his sax solo appearence during the latest tour, he's supposed to be the head of the whole clergy thing.
Then for the fourth album they introduced Cardinal Copia, the character for the entire Prequelle tour - at the very last concert, spoilers I guess, Papa Nihil died during the sax solo and Cardinal Copia was dressed on stage by a bunch of nuns and anointed, mid-concert, as Papa Emeritus IV, so he's the same character who got "promoted".
The whole "he's the bastard child of Papa Nihil" comes from wacky YouTube short videos that were released during the Prequelle cycle, adding some comedy moments to the lore and creating a backstory for the whole clergy thing, and yes, that was the implication.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impera)
Looks like it's the usual 45' (give or take) album.....
A 45-foot album?! Where do you even find a record player that big?
;)
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I like the new single a lot more than Hunter's Moon. That song felt like more of the overly-poppy Seven Inches Of Satanic Panic sound whereas this is more in line with the Prequille style.
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Anyway, the new song is catchy. Not Dance Macabre-catchy, not "this is gonna be their Enter Sandman" catchy, but after some listenings it grabs you.
Hunter's Moon is next in the tracklist, I wonder if this is as "commercial" the new album will get and the rest is gonna be more in the Meliora vein, or if there's another Square Hammer or Dance Macabre behind the corner....
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Another Square Hammer would be great, another Dance Macabre I could do without. :biggrin:
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Enjoyed this more than Hunters Moon as well :metal
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After one listen, I like this a lot. Also just read:
[Papa Emeritus IV] is stated to be the first frontman to not be a part of the Emeritus bloodline, though it is heavily implied he is the bastard son of Papa Nihil and Sister Imperator.
I can't follow the lore of this band, and I still love it!
[Clear and concise explanation...]
I was being a bit cheeky. I get the lore, it was more a comment of how bizarre it can seem, especially to someone like me who hasn't been a fan since the early stages . But I appreciate the post, it did clear up a couple details. :)
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First show of the tour last night, in Nevada. There's some pics on their Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/thebandghost/
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First show of the tour last night, in Nevada. There's some pics on their Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/thebandghost/
They also played a new song that hasn't been released yet.
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Those new ghoul designs are… different
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Those new ghoul designs are… different
First thing I thought of was the Overwatch from Half Life 2. Not sure what he's going for, but they look militant now, rather than oddly creepy.
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I preferred menacing pope to undead televangelist. That is all.
Actually, that's not all. It looks so odd to see a ghoul (regardless of era) playing a strat. It just seems...off.
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Those new ghoul designs are… different
First thing I thought of was the Overwatch from Half Life 2. Not sure what he's going for, but they look militant now, rather than oddly creepy.
Eh, the album is called Impera and is about rise and falls of empires, and the cover art is a giant statue of Emeritus being built (in the Aleister Crowley pose), so it's not that out of the blue that the ghouls are "militant" as you said...
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First show of the tour last night, in Nevada. There's some pics on their Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/thebandghost/
They also played a new song that hasn't been released yet.
Saw them last night, if anyone is interested in hearing the new song, Kaisarion, here is my video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMNMZKTMG_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMNMZKTMG_U) I really enjoyed this one
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Cool, thanks! Why haven't these guys recorded a live concert video yet?
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Cool, thanks! Why haven't these guys recorded a live concert video yet?
Beats me!
Is it me who got it all wrong, or the very last concert of the previous tour, the one where Cardinal Copia got anointed as Papa Emeritus IV, was meant to be recorded and filmed for a future release?
If not, they'd better take the chance now with the new tour!
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Tobias knows that both Iron Maiden and Metallica released live videos after the fifth album. Therefore, I am confident that this is the tour that gets recorded.
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It would have been cool to have the different versions of Papa recorded professionally live and those final show of the tour moments. I'd buy a live album for sure if/when they make one.
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Cool, thanks! Why haven't these guys recorded a live concert video yet?
They do have a live album though. It's the only thing I've bought from them.
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Cool, thanks! Why haven't these guys recorded a live concert video yet?
They do have a live album though. It's the only thing I've bought from them.
called Ceremony And Devotion (and IMHO, it's a good one)
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Chris mentioned a live video, I just said album but was referencing a professionally released live video album. Their visuals are pretty cool so it seems appropriate to release one at some point.
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Is there a database or a website that lists the band members by name over the course of the life of the band?
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Is there a database or a website that lists the band members by name over the course of the life of the band?
It is on Wikipedia. For the Ghouls there is a hidden table titled "known former members" under the tab "identities".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_(Swedish_band)#Identities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_(Swedish_band)#Identities)
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Cool. Thank you.
I enjoyed their set opening for Iron Maiden a few years back, and I thought that band was fantastic. I bought the live album after that tour.
But I have never really gotten into their studio work, and the singer seems like a real douche.
That wiki list only has members up through 2016. Does anyone know who the band members were on that 2017 tour?
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I enjoyed who ever was in the band for that IM tour, I have no idea who is in the band now, but I can say that they sounded great last week. Not entirely sure, for me, if it matters who is in the band as long as Tobias has that group performing top notch as it seems like he has every time I've seen them.
Also, I wrote a full review of that concert in the concerts thread so I won't spam more here, but here's my video of Dance Macabre that came out very well Ghost - Dance Macabre - LIVE @ Prudential Center, Newark NJ 2/10/2022 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN_uQigSYfU)
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New song: “Twenties”
https://youtu.be/W1IOj93SqME
It’s uh…something.
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Not bad, but definitively weird.
I'll try my best to not hear it again, the album is right around the corner (if we're all still alive by then, that's it) and I want to hear all the songs as a complete piece of work.
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Interesting indeed. Bizarre yet fun.
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I always admire Ghost for the variety and being unafraid to do something a bit different. That being said this might be the first ghost song that's a complete miss for me.
I'll give it another chance in context of the full album though.
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Now that is great stuff. Haven't been into Ghost much but that is an energetic, fun song. Reminds me of the fun that Diablo Swing Orchestra has with their songs.
I like the lyrics as well, and the music fits them pretty well. Wacky music for wacky times.
I think it would've been hilarious if the band debuted this song live.
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Got my record early!!
This is definitely my second favorite Ghost record! Spillways and Griftwood are my early favorites with Darkness at the Heart of My Love and Watcher competing in there! It’s just phenomenal. I would say that Hunter’s Moon feels like it was thrown on there as an afterthought. It just doesn’t fit to me
But yeah, this is definitely my second favorite Ghost album
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This is my favorite Ghost record!
But yeah, this is definitely my second favorite Ghost album
What?
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I forgot to put second favorite in that first one :lol
Nothing will beat Opus for me, I remember happening across it back in 2011 and having no clue what to expect. It holds a special place for me
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Thanks for the clarification! Second favourite v favourite was very confusing...
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I have a feeling it will be a slow and chill day at work today, so I'll be listening to the new album at my desk.
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Someone who values Opus Eponymous likes the new album a lot? Intriguing.
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First listen and very disappointing. The preview songs don't represent the sound at all (well maybe Hunter's Moon). The rest of the album sounds completely devoid of metal, in fact there is a 80's soft rock vide throughout, midway though the album there is a song called 'Watcher in the Sky' which is maybe the worst Ghost song, mainly because it's super repetitive (think Angel and the Gambler) and it just sounds like it could be lifted from FM radio. The last two proper songs sounded better - 'Griftfields' had horrible lyrics (something about I can be your rock baby) but the chorus was huge and catchy, and the final track although a ballad at least sounded like it had some bite too it.
After the 2 brilliant tracks from 7 Inches I thought we might get a 70's hard rock occult album, then after Sunshine and Twenties I thought we might be getting quite dark and dense..........instead we get Ghost Jovi :-X
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First listen is over, and I echo the sentiment of soupytwist. Not a lot of metal here, and more of an 80s stadium rock mixed with some musicals. We've seen it coming though, with the previous album's direction.
It's a good album for sure, just not great.
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This album actually floored me on my first listen. I am stunned by how both riff-heavy and catchy it is. This is the ultimate blend of pop and metal.
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Started listening now, cool that they follow Spirit of Radio with Runaway...oh wait :lol
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SP review here:
https://www.sonicperspectives.com/album-reviews/ghost-impera/
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Catchy Ghost is best Ghost for me. Awesome album!
Immediately ordered the vinyl ;D
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Catchy Ghost is best Ghost for me.
Yeah, same. Never had much interest in their first two albums.
New one is sounding good so far!
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The album is good, better than Prequelle (but not as good as the first three, IMO), but having three songs that are almost direct lifts from 80's songs is a bit much for me.
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Started listening now, cool that they follow Spirit of Radio with Runaway...oh wait :lol
You are not wrong there :lol
They are brilliant, though!
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Listened to the new album twice this morning and I’m really not liking it so far. Kaisarion is a great opener, but nothing else on the record sticks out to me.
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For me, Ghost had better be on the heavier side or the catchier side. This album fits the latter nicely. It's definitely got an 80s vibe, but I don't mind. Soupytwist's take is pretty accurate: Ghost Jovi. There's some excellent dual guitar work sprinkled throughout, so that's another bonus.
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Still early, but for me it looks like they did it again. I'm enjoying this greatly.
It's very much a Ghost album, but with enough to make it a unique entry in their catalog. Hunter's Moon is probably the closest in sound to Prequelle.
As mentioned here, Kaisarion (the proper opener) has occasional happy Rush vibes (minus the initial scream, of course ;D), then Spillways could easily be an early Bon Jovi song (perhaps with some Hold the Line thrown in for good measure). Great riff in Watcher of the Sky and cool tribute of sorts to Van Halen in Griftwood - still covered in Ghost sauce, of course...Twenties has grown on me too.
I like that they reprise the melody of the instrumental intro in the final song (which, speaking of guitar work, has some really tasty interplay and solos). Not the first time Ghost does something like this, and it works great here.
I think I liked the sound on Prequelle a little better (drums sound a tad too "dry" here), but I'm overall very happy with this.
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It still makes me smile knowing it’s Fredrik from Opeth playing guitar on the album
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Catchy Ghost is best Ghost for me.
Yeah, same. Never had much interest in their first two albums.
New one is sounding good so far!
Even at their most "metal", Ghost always sounded pretty catchy to me - but yes, I agree with both of you :) Although I will say - I actually love their first album, while the second is my least favorite of theirs. Still good, but it doesn't grab me like the others.
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Yeah Ghost’s music has always been very catchy.
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I was listening closely to the last track, Respite On The Spitalfields, and the way he sings the line "One day he will come back" (3:27) seems like a nod to The Final Countdown :lol ("And maybe we'll come back").
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Loving it so far. Cheesy 80s action is right up my street.
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I don't mind the cheese, but a decent chunk of the album is somewhat toothless.
Edit: I don't mind a Ghost Jovi album, but Bon Jovi was very producer-driven and sometimes resulted in grittier songs, sometimes in bubble-gum pop. I would have preferred more of the former.
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Early days but the new album isn’t doing much for me at the moment.
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Some of you may not like the no metal AOR vibe.....more for me then.
loving it loving it. i wasn't really into ghost everyone was like Try Opus....try Meilora. now i like the sound of those albums but for some reason what ghost was doing bored me to tears. wasn't feeling those albums at all.
but Prequele hit me right. this new one is right up my street
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I hope there will be a time in the future when Ghost explores darker, heavier, more evil territories but for now I'm just going to be appreciative of these wonderfully catchy and pleasant tunes. Much like Prequelle and Meliora, I loved Impera right from the start, which is refreshing compared to how it's taken me a dozen listens of Marillion's new album to really get into it. "Darkness at the Heart of my Love," "Respite on the Spitalfields," and "Twenties" are currently my three favorite tracks, but I'm enjoying them all.
And like others have stated, I also preferred the live version of "Kaisarion," and was sad that we didn't get the soaring female vocals in the chorus.
My least-favorite song at the moment is probably "Watcher in the Sky," mostly because of that slooooooow and repetitive fade out at the end.
But yeah, great album!!!
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Catchy it is and really enjoying it regardless think it could've and should've been given more oomph and a heavier album overall.
And regardless Griftwood has me thinking Hysteria or Call Me Little Sunshine gets me thinking all kinds of early Metallica and likewise a few other tunes have the same effect, this is a good fun album but not surprised many of their old-school fans may be disappointed ;)
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Just put the new album on. First song sounds like a new take on Metallica's Battery intro.
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Just put the new album on. First song sounds like a new take on Metallica's Battery intro.
HA! See my post minutes above yours seems we on the same page ;)
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This album is getting better with every listen. It's clearly a long way from Opus Eponymous' gritty sounding 70's style. I just took another listen to Ritual and Con Clavi Con Dio, and....wow has the production come a loooong way. Impera feels like a natural progression from Prequelle, though, and I think it's my favorite album in the catalogue. To echo what bluefox4000 said, I also find most of their albums are full of boring fill songs around a couple good tracks. I'm finding all the tracks on this record entertaining.
The thing that sticks out most to me is the guitar work. Bringing on Fredrik Akesson to record the guitar is very evident, and was a top notch idea. The solos and harmonies are on another level compared to all previous Ghost albums.
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I would have no idea Fredrik Akesson was all over this thing if it wasn't mentioned here. He usually has an incredibly distinctive solo style that isn't really present here.
I'll probably pick up this album, but the tracklist is definitely spottier than Prequelle was. Highlights for me so far are Kaisarion, Call Me Little Sunshine, and the closer, whereas Griftwood and Spillways are doing nothing for me. Everything else I have mixed feelings on.
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Very enjoyable ride! Love where they went on this one. Melodies are great. Probably will be a top 5 for 2022.
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I was away on a short vacation when the album was coming out, so I couldn't resist and heard bits and pieces, now I've just completed my first full run.
First impression? It's a good album that takes a nosedive after the middle. It starts with the strongest songs - The energetic and bombastic Kaisarion, the illegally catchy Spillways (love at first listening), the very decent singles and also Watcher in the Sky is not bad, and as wacky and weird as it is, Twenties somehow is ok. I'm still not sold on the poppy songs that come after.... Darkness at the Heart of Love is not worth of the awesome title it has, and Griftwood is kinda cheesy and Spitalfields is nowhere near a closing epic.
Maybe I will change my mind with future listenings, which of course will come!
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I picked up my copy of Impera today and loved it on first listen. Heavier than I expected based on the comments here. I don’t find it any more poppy than Prequelle.
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I picked up my copy of Impera today and loved it on first listen. Heavier than I expected based on the comments here. I don’t find it any more poppy than Prequelle.
Disagree. Rats and Dance Macabre were certainly poppy, but this album has 3 catchy tunes (Spillways, Griftwood, Respite on the Spitalfields), 1 straight up top 40 track (Darkness at the Heart of my Love), and 2 other 80s rock inspired songs (Kaisairion, Watcher in the Sky). In my opinion this is the poppiest, most commercially accessible album in their catalogue.
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This is the least "spooky" sounding Ghost album. I tend to marathon their discography every Halloween, and this may be the first album from them that doesn't seem to fit that season. Solid album, but missing some of the spooky personality I found and enjoyed on their previous albums.
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^^that is a sentiment i can rally behind
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This is the least "spooky" sounding Ghost album. I tend to marathon their discography every Halloween, and this may be the first album from them that doesn't seem to fit that season. Solid album, but missing some of the spooky personality I found and enjoyed on their previous albums.
Indeed. Prequelle was more accessible, but still had a lot of dark moments - and all the lyrics were somehow quite dark since they were all about the plague and death. The only "darkness" on this album is on Little Sunshine and Hunter....
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Gave it a few more listens over the weekend and my opinion hasn't changed. This is by far their weakest album, IMO. Kaisarion is honestly the only track I'm enjoying.
I'm aware that this poppy side of Ghost has been there since the beginning, and has gotten more prevalent with each new release, but Impera takes that aspect of their sound too far. Prequelle had plenty of poppier songs, but it still sounded like Ghost. Outside of one or two songs, Impera doesn't even sound like the same band anymore. (And yes, I know it's really just one guy for the most part)
I don't dislike it because it's poppy, catchy, and more accessible and less metal than their previous work, but much like the Black Album by Metallica, I dislike it because it because it's a watered down, simplified, and boring version of their typical sound. Yes, bands supposed to evolve over time, but this is a step in the wrong direction. Hell, my favorite song is Kaisarion, and that doesn't sound like anything they've done before. So clearly they can try new things and still sound good. But the other 90% of this record doesn't do anything for me.
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I've had Kaisarion stuck in my head all weekend. It's probably my favourite track off the album right now, I really like the fast tempo of that one. Twenties is kinda cool as well, aside from the lyrics. Hunter's Moon has grown on me since I first heard it as a single. My least favourite is the power ballad, Darkness At The Heart Of My Love.
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Kaisarion is fantastic, can't get enough of it. One of my favorite songs of the year so far ;D
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This is the least "spooky" sounding Ghost album. I tend to marathon their discography every Halloween, and this may be the first album from them that doesn't seem to fit that season. Solid album, but missing some of the spooky personality I found and enjoyed on their previous albums.
I definitely agree with this. I've only really listened to the album once in full and need to spend more time with the record, but it is missing that element.
Watcher in the Sky is slamming - there are some awesome riffs throughout the album. It's not all poppy, but it's not all heavy either. Meliora is still my favorite.
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I will say this album has the potential to add a lot of variety to their future setlists. I just hope they don't lean into this less "Ghostly" style too hard going forward
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I enjoy it more than Prequelle, but it is a compromise for me. I want the heaviness of Meliora and the eerie quirkiness of Opus Eponymous to return into the band's sound.
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Gave it a few more listens over the weekend and my opinion hasn't changed. This is by far their weakest album, IMO. Kaisarion is honestly the only track I'm enjoying.
I'm aware that this poppy side of Ghost has been there since the beginning, and has gotten more prevalent with each new release, but Impera takes that aspect of their sound too far. Prequelle had plenty of poppier songs, but it still sounded like Ghost. Outside of one or two songs, Impera doesn't even sound like the same band anymore. (And yes, I know it's really just one guy for the most part)
I don't dislike it because it's poppy, catchy, and more accessible and less metal than their previous work, but much like the Black Album by Metallica, I dislike it because it because it's a watered down, simplified, and boring version of their typical sound. Yes, bands supposed to evolve over time, but this is a step in the wrong direction. Hell, my favorite song is Kaisarion, and that doesn't sound like anything they've done before. So clearly they can try new things and still sound good. But the other 90% of this record doesn't do anything for me.
This is more like 'Risk' than the Black Album!!! :biggrin:
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File it under “Weak Albums from Bands Who Are Capable of Doing Better” :lol
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There doesn't seem to be a lot of love for Darkness At The Heart Of My Love...I'm actually really liking it. Kind of in a similar vein to Pro Memoria from Prequelle (which I also liked).
Such a cool arrangement in the verses, and overall.
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This is the least "spooky" sounding Ghost album. I tend to marathon their discography every Halloween, and this may be the first album from them that doesn't seem to fit that season. Solid album, but missing some of the spooky personality I found and enjoyed on their previous albums.
I view Ghost as not a band about the spooky, but about spreading the message that is part of their entire lore and story. It's a reason why I do not mind their style now, actually this is the first album that got me back into Ghost since Infestissumam.
And I just saw that a lot of these songs are co-written. I dug into who Salem Al Fakir and Vincent Pontare are, and I understand why those song contributions sound the way they do. Even Call Me Little Sunshine I can hear Justin Bieber singing to, because Max Grahn made songs for him as well.
In a way, I think it's hilarious how the point was to popularize the message and this album proves they have infiltrated the mainstream with it. And also, that this album fits my musical listening styles right now. :lol
Oh yeah....Darkness At The Heart of My Love is an amazing song.
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Me: Meh, Darkness at the Heart of my Love is kinda average.
Also me: "There's a darkness at the heart of my love".... over and over in my head :biggrin:
Second listening done, as it happens with all Ghost albums, it's a very enjoyable experience, it does not "tire" you, but I wanted some more highs. In the context of the album, Twenties works quite good.
And I agree that Kaisarion is an amazing song.
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I listened to Opus Eponymous again and it's still easily their weakest album for me. It's got some decent tunes but overall it's very... unexciting? I get liking their darker sound more than their recent stuff but Meliora did that style so much better, and while Infestissumam is pretty inconsistent it's a lot more interesting, and the highlights are better than anything on Opus imo.
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Being unexcited about it's "satanism" is what I like about Opus Eponymous so much. It's not Shock Rock, it's just Rock that happens to be evil. Period.
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Second listening done, as it happens with all Ghost albums, it's a very enjoyable experience, it does not "tire" you, but I wanted some more highs. In the context of the album, Twenties works quite good.
This is so true for me too. I remember going into Prequelle having loved Meliora and, one listen in, thinking - this is very good, but I don't know if I'll love it as much. Then I couldn't get enough of it, and kept going back. Same thing with Impera. It's almost addictive. Regardless of how I end up ranking the albums, it's been consistently true of the last three...the more I've listened, the more I've liked them.
And it's kind of funny - it's not like Ghost's music is complex or hard to get into. Most songs you pretty much sing along to by the time you've heard them once. Yet, the melodies, the production and the arrangements are so clever and well crafted, the songs keep pulling you back in (if you actually like them, that is :biggrin:)
Bottom line, I really enjoy this band
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OK, after a handful of listens I am loving this album. Some really great rocking and catchy songs here. I think it is a much more consistent album than the last one which to me had some great songs and some average ones.
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Most songs you pretty much sing along to by the time you've heard them once. Yet, the melodies, the production and the arrangements are so clever and well crafted, the songs keep pulling you back in (if you actually like them, that is :biggrin:)
I have to agree.... I woke up with so many refrains stuck in my head :D
There's a darkness at the heart of my love.... [...] I'm with you always.... (the choir part)
In the Twenties.... TWENTIEEEEEEES!!!!
Nothing ever lasts forever.... [...] We will go softly into the night....
Some more random thoughts:
- I'm still not sold on the unifying theme of the album. I know it's not a concept but, since it's been presented as an album about rises and falls of empires, I thought I would "feel" it more.
Let's take Meliora for example, even if the songs are disconnected, there's a consistent mood, a vibe - the antichrist announced in the debut and arrived in the second album is finally here, and is dominating the songs with an obscure presence. When you reach the end of the album, with Deus in Absentia, you really "feel" it - the world is on fire, and the journey in a dystopic world dominated by the antichrist has ended.
Also Prequelle is very consistent in its theme - death and the plague in medieval times, death is all over the album and Life Eternal concludes with a bittersweet tone about letting loved ones go.
I don't feel (yet) this theme, this vibe with Impera. As I said - I know it's not a concept and I don't expect all songs about empires, but I had come to expect some sort of thematic continuity, even with subtle hints.... Kaisarion is the triumphant beginning, the "yeeeeh we're on top of the world" song, then in the middle of the album there's the wacky Twenties about being arrogantly drunk with power, but Respite on the Spitalfields does not give me the feeling of "wow, we've come at the end, another empire has crumbled". Yeah, there's the line "nothing ever lasts forever", also "we will go softly into the night", but it does not leave me feeling at the end of a journey like Deus in Absentia and Life Eternal did.
- Griftwood is a bit of a drag in that place of the album, not because it's a terrible song, but I feel it slows down the album too much. Let's take Prequelle as a comparison - after Dance Macabre we have a slower piece (Pro Memoria), a slow instrumental (Helvensomethingingerman) and another even slower piece (Life Eternal), BUT, in the middle of it all, we have Witch Image to spice things up and being a cool rocking song.
After the ballad (Darkness) and before a useless intro and a slower final piece (Spitalfields), a faster and heavier songs would have balanced the album much better than Griftwood does. It's not a terrible song per se, as I said - it just drags the album down too much.
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Loving this record. I felt Prequelle was their most consistent and this continues that consistency. Superb.
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I've listened to the record a few times and agree with a lot of the sentiment in this thread. Overall I've really enjoyed it, even if Tobias is leaning heavily arena rock etc.
With that being said, my only real negative feedback is the album length. With the singles being out as long as they have, and the filler/interludes, there is not a lot of actual new music to digest! My only hope is if he's going to take 3-4 years to release an album, that there will be more material.
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With that being said, my only real negative feedback is the album length. With the singles being out as long as they have, and the filler/interludes, there is not a lot of actual new music to digest! My only hope is if he's going to take 3-4 years to release an album, that there will be more material.
Funnily enough, this is Ghost's longest album other than Infestissumam, which is only a minute longer. It doesn't really feel like it, though.
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I am really happy that I waited to post...
For whatever reason, 'Hunter's Moon,' 'Call Me Little Sunshine,' and 'Twenties' all failed to land. And when I first listened to the album on Friday, I struggled to find anything that really caught my ear.
It's not that I don't like the poppier side of the band, because I LOVE tracks like 'Dance Macabre' and 'Square Hammer.'
Well, I got in my car this morning and decided to give it a solid 'no distractions' listen during my commute, and I don't know what it was, but man, it suddenly hit me like a ton of bricks. This album is a gem!
For me, Meliora has been the high water mark since its release, and while Prequel has a handful of awesome tunes on it, I felt like the abundance of segues and instrumentals really bogged it down. Well, to me, Impera is like the perfect mix between the two.
I checked out a ton of live clips on Youtube tonight, and Forge's new touring lineup sounds fantastic...so happy to see this brilliant band hitting their prime.
When I think about all of the amazing shows I saw with my father, a list that includes Kiss, Alice Cooper, and the Scorpions, it kinda bums me out because I'm beginning to realize that there is little chance that I will have the chance to take my son (who just turned 4 months) to see any of those bands. Hell, I'd be surprised if DT is still touring a decade from now, and even if they are, they will be way past their prime.
But Ghost just might be a band I can take my kid to while they're still firing on all cylinders. Assuming, of course, that WWIII hasn't dropped us all into the dark ages.
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Anyone realized yet that the theme of Imperium (opening intro) gets reprised at the end of Spitalfields during the fade out of the song and therefore of the album?
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Now I've tempered expectations that this album isn't going to be as dark or weird as Sunshine and Twenties suggested I can enjoy it for what it is, which is most a extremely catchy 80's rock album. Most of the songs are well made, the only I dislike is 'Watcher in the Sky' which feels it aims for epic but runs out of steam (and lyrics) oh and the instrumentals are completely pointless on this album.
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Now I've tempered expectations that this album isn't going to be as dark or weird as Sunshine and Twenties suggested I can enjoy it for what it is, which is most a extremely catchy 80's rock album. Most of the songs are well made, the only I dislike is 'Watcher in the Sky' which feels it aims for epic but runs out of steam (and lyrics) oh and the instrumentals are completely pointless on this album.
Word.
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Anyone realized yet that the theme of Imperium (opening intro) gets reprised at the end of Spitalfields during the fade out of the song and therefore of the album?
Yep! :biggrin:
I like that they reprise the melody of the instrumental intro in the final song (which, speaking of guitar work, has some really tasty interplay and solos). Not the first time Ghost does something like this, and it works great here.
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Has anyone noticed that the vocal melody and lyrics in the Griftwood chorus seems to rip off Hide and Seek by Seventh Wonder?!
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I still need to get this album, just been busy but I really want to check it out soon. I did check out Kaisarian on youtube and thought the mix was a bit odd. I might have just gotten used to watching the live performances of it on youtube.
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Hi my name is 'Darkness at the Heart on my Love' I'm a cheesy power ballad, resistance is futile...
'No what are you doing? STOP! Please get outta my head......GET OUT OF MY H......There's a darkness at the heart of my love, That runs cold, runs deep
Lifeform assimilated.
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Thanks, it's now stuck in my head.
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Hi my name is 'Darkness at the Heart on my Love' I'm a cheesy power ballad, resistance is futile...
'No what are you doing? STOP! Please get outta my head......GET OUT OF MY H......There's a darkness at the heart of my love, That runs cold, runs deep
"I'm with you always.... I'm with you always...."
Also...
IT'S THE CRUEL!
BEAST!
THAT YOU SEEK!
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My fingers are crossed that "Darkness at the Heart of My Love" becomes the next single and that they make a killer video for it. It's such a beautiful song!
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
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After sitting with the new album a bit I like it a little bit less than Prequelle but it's still my third favorite below that and Meliora. The songwriting isn't as strong as those two, but I think this album has the best vocal and guitar performances yet. Every song is incredibly catchy as well, though sometimes in an annoying way (Twenties, Griftwood).
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
It sure is! Do we know who the musicians are in the live band?
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I don't. But I know the album had Fredrik Ĺkesson from Opeth playing on it.
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
Wait..it was a music video. It wasn't a live performance.
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
It sure is! Do we know who the musicians are in the live band?
I'm real partial to the 2017 touring band. They were incredible.
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Gave this a couple listens this week. I felt I enjoyed Prequelle more after the first spins, but that was my first album after becoming a fan, so that might inform my opinion a bit. Ghost is a band I don't listen to for the songs, but the album, and this one delivers on that score.
Solid album, but missing some of the spooky personality I found and enjoyed on their previous albums.
I get this.
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
Wait..it was a music video. It wasn't a live performance.
That's definitely live. Live music video?
I had the pleasure of seeing Ghost on the Pale tour. They're a great live band. Tobias can at least come close to his studio singing voice. That's something i appreciate from a front man
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Any guesses on how many songs will be played live in the next tour?
The first four are a given, three have already been played and I refuse to believe Spillways won't be in the set, the rest of the songs might all have a chance on their own, but they can't be played all...
Twenties, as wacky as it is, I believe will be played, and also Watcher in the Sky might have a chance. It's the final three remaining songs I have doubts about... Griftwood is the one least likely to be played, the "ballad" and the "epic" might get a chance but dunno, maybe he'll just keep He Is as a slow moment.
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Spillways and Little Miss Sunshine for sure since they were already being played on the pre-imperator shows in early march. Probably Hunter's Moon, as well, due to its single status and appearanceon the Halloween Kills soundtrack. From there....who knows? Ghost has some setlist staples (Pinnacle, Square Hammer, Mummy Dust, Dance Macabre, Ritual), so they'll all be in the set. I hope they don't play both He Is and Darkness. That's 2 too many slow songs for this guy.
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They played basically every song from Prequelle when I saw them during that tour (I think the 2nd instrumental is the only one they skipped) so I'd say every full song has a chance.
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
Wait..it was a music video. It wasn't a live performance.
Seems like what many bands have done on these shows during the pandemic, a pre-recorded "live" track. It sounds live though.
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Any guesses on how many songs will be played live in the next tour?
The first four are a given, three have already been played and I refuse to believe Spillways won't be in the set, the rest of the songs might all have a chance on their own, but they can't be played all...
Twenties, as wacky as it is, I believe will be played, and also Watcher in the Sky might have a chance. It's the final three remaining songs I have doubts about... Griftwood is the one least likely to be played, the "ballad" and the "epic" might get a chance but dunno, maybe he'll just keep He Is as a slow moment.
Good chance that'll be on the setlist due to the popularity of the song - it's currently the runaway leader on the best song on the album poll!
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Any guesses on how many songs will be played live in the next tour?
The first four are a given, three have already been played and I refuse to believe Spillways won't be in the set, the rest of the songs might all have a chance on their own, but they can't be played all...
Twenties, as wacky as it is, I believe will be played, and also Watcher in the Sky might have a chance. It's the final three remaining songs I have doubts about... Griftwood is the one least likely to be played, the "ballad" and the "epic" might get a chance but dunno, maybe he'll just keep He Is as a slow moment.
Good chance that'll be on the setlist due to the popularity of the song - it's currently the runaway leader on the best song on the album poll!
That's funny considering it's my least favorite. :lol
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Any guesses on how many songs will be played live in the next tour?
The first four are a given, three have already been played and I refuse to believe Spillways won't be in the set, the rest of the songs might all have a chance on their own, but they can't be played all...
Twenties, as wacky as it is, I believe will be played, and also Watcher in the Sky might have a chance. It's the final three remaining songs I have doubts about... Griftwood is the one least likely to be played, the "ballad" and the "epic" might get a chance but dunno, maybe he'll just keep He Is as a slow moment.
Good chance that'll be on the setlist due to the popularity of the song - it's currently the runaway leader on the best song on the album poll!
That's funny considering it's my least favorite. :lol
How is that even possible lol? That song makes me want to throw on the ol' dancing shoes, and get my groove on.
(full disclosure: I don't actually own dancing shoes nor do I have any groove)
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It's "just" a mid tempo plodding song, with an album that has already four "singles" for lack of a better term, two energetic song, the epic and the ballad, this is to me the most expandable one when creating a setlist.
But even if I don't terribly like it, I have it stuck in my head, and also today I mumbled "You wanna play with the sire, you want a view from the spire..." thank you Tobias and your damn melodies :lol
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Any guesses on how many songs will be played live in the next tour?
The first four are a given, three have already been played and I refuse to believe Spillways won't be in the set, the rest of the songs might all have a chance on their own, but they can't be played all...
Twenties, as wacky as it is, I believe will be played, and also Watcher in the Sky might have a chance. It's the final three remaining songs I have doubts about... Griftwood is the one least likely to be played, the "ballad" and the "epic" might get a chance but dunno, maybe he'll just keep He Is as a slow moment.
Good chance that'll be on the setlist due to the popularity of the song - it's currently the runaway leader on the best song on the album poll!
That's funny considering it's my least favorite. :lol
How is that even possible lol? That song makes me want to throw on the ol' dancing shoes, and get my groove on.
(full disclosure: I don't actually own dancing shoes nor do I have any groove)
The chorus, despite being catchy, is kind of annoying (mostly because of the "YESSSSSSSS" whispers), and generally I just find the song way too slow-paced; the whole mid-tempo classic rock vibe just doesn't do much for me. The bridge is nice though.
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I think for me it's the dual guitar solo that gets me. In terms of favorite catchy song, Spillways is the clear front runner, but that solo in Griftwood gets me every time. That's how Ghost gets you hooked. They have these catchy sections in most songs, but they're so short it leaves you wanting to listen again and again to hear your favorite parts.
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I think for me it's the dual guitar solo that gets me. In terms of favorite catchy song, Spillways is the clear front runner, but that solo in Griftwood gets me every time. That's how Ghost gets you hooked. They have these catchy sections in most songs, but they're so short it leaves you wanting to listen again and again to hear your favorite parts.
Prime example: Watcher in the Sky, there's a cool post-chorus part that is bombastic and is way better than the actual chorus.... and it only comes once, d'uh!
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YouTube their new performance on Jimmy Kimmel. It's good.
I was pretty indifferent on this song but this performance changed my mind. It’s really good.
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New album is good. Definitely better than Prequelle. Still, I'm not necessarily blown away, Ghost to me is like a 7/10 band where the music is kinda bland but some songs have decent hooks. I do appreciate that he shakes the sound up a bit and tries new things, even when it doesn't quite work for me. If we start with the good I think Kaisarion is a fun energetic song that almost reminds me a bit of Rush in places, I think Watcher in the Sky has a catchy chorus and Darkness at the Heart of my Love is a surprisingly good ballad that IMO slaps "He Is" two times over. If we go to the negative I think Twenties might not just be bad but cringe levels of bad. It does sound unique (i'll give it that) but the mixture of caribbean pirate sea chant mixed with brass instruments and nu-metal splashes with really bad lyrics and cringe vocal delivery (that 'listen up motherfuckers' part sounds like it could have been a limp bizkit or korn song or something) but at least you can say by trying different things they keep it fresh. Some things will work some won't.
Overall I'd say it's an enjoyable little listening experience and I don't really find myself bored through the 45 minutes but on the flip side I don't think either of these songs are really amazing or anything either. It's decent!
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I don't want to defend Twenties, but the lyrics are cringe on purpouse. They're a shot at a certain orange guy, but more generally, it's about arrogance and you're supposed to dislike the lyrics and, in turn, the people who would "sing" them.
There's also a bit of clever irony in the lyrics, the chorus goes "in the twenties we'll do this and that" and then add "all the way to the thirties".... those arrogant people thought they would rule the world, but we know what the thirties broought (or, well, 1st September 1939 to be more precise).
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I enjoy Twenties up until the chorus hits.
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I don't want to defend Twenties, but the lyrics are cringe on purpouse. They're a shot at a certain orange guy, but more generally, it's about arrogance and you're supposed to dislike the lyrics and, in turn, the people who would "sing" them.
There's also a bit of clever irony in the lyrics, the chorus goes "in the twenties we'll do this and that" and then add "all the way to the thirties".... those arrogant people thought they would rule the world, but we know what the thirties broought (or, well, 1st September 1939 to be more precise).
Oh yeah for sure, I don't really mind that. Still when listening to it you gotta judge it for what it is. :P Kinda similar to how some movies might have a good message or a deeper meaning but if it does nothing for you then it doesn't matter. :D
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New album is good. Still, I'm not necessarily blown away, Ghost to me is like a 7/10 band where the music is kinda bland but some songs have decent hooks.
THIS. Much better LIVE!
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I didn't like either of When Call Me Little Sunshine and Hunter's Moon when they were released, and was already pre-judging the album. A week in, and what must be 10 listen throughs, there's not a track I don't like (2 of the 3 instrumentals notwithstanding). None of their previous albums can boast the same. They all have a bunch of filler songs that trend heavily to boring. Even those aforementioned lead singles have really grown on me (perhaps thanks to listening in my head phones vs. out loud on my phone through youtube). You can find reasons to dislike the album (too poppy, not spooky, too different, etc.), and they're valid, but this is an absolutely entertaining album for me. Early contender for album of the year
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Anyway, Ghost lore time!!!
While I know the lore, and I follow the videos and know the general story, I'm not that obsessed with it all to the point that I could provide links and full documentation, BUT....
So far, the basically accepted theory is that Cardinal Copia, now Papa Emeritus IV, is the son of Sister Imperator (the woman from the videos, that hooked up with Papa Nihil, sax guy).
However, I remember reading who knows where (Reddit?) that Forge said that Copia was "not what he seemed", and let's remember that his name literally means "copy" in italian... he's a copy of something or someone?
And then we have the lyrics in the final song of the album:
He appeared to ascend
So we all stood there in awe
Now we have to pretend
We didn't see what we saw
With the curtain unveiled
To the sound of applause
That the king that we hailed
Was the wizard of Oz
Could it be that the Cardinal, now Papa IV, is an imposter, just like the Wizard of Oz was? that in the end it will turn out he's not the son of Sister Imperator and he was a fraud? let's remember that, as silly and campy the lore is, Tobias put some thought into it - think of Miasma live, the whole tour we saw Papa Nihil almost pass out at the end before the final sax note and we all thought it was a cool gag, but actually at the very last date Papa Nihil died on that sax solo, thus allowing Copia to "ascend the throne". His death was foreshadowed the whole time, the whole tour, and if someone on Reddit would have guessed it, I would have deemed him an overly obsessed fan putting forward a wacky theory.
Also, the theme of the album is the rise and fall of empires, so definitively Papa IV will be gone at the end of the album cycle - but how will it happen, he will fall from grace (from the pinnacle to the pit? :D) or he will be actually exposed as a fraud, a cheater and an imposter?
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That was a fantastic analysis that makes me look forward to 2024. ;D
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The thing that impresses me the most with Ghost is how Tobias crafted the lore around the band, the visual aesthetic and I think it shows because it kinda pulls people in. I've said it before that if Ghost was just 4 normal dudes with no makeup or special visual element to their show, based on just their music alone I don't think they would be anywhere near as successful but the fact you have that lore element it shows that people care about the 'overall package' of a band so to speak.
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I've spent a week with the album and I've got to say, Tobias is well aware that not everyone in the metal scene has the ability to craft such catchy melodies and choruses. It's that Swedish efect, growing up with Abba, Army of lovers and The Cardigans does have an impact on you. The poppy choruses have worked well since the first album and kept getting more important and more prominent. At this point, they are so huge that even the 80s mainstream glam acts would envy them. Still, there is plenty of powerful riffs, intricate playing, complex structures and grand concepts to make the album stick out as serious and thoughtful.
Some of my favorites include Spillways, Kaiserion, Respite, Hunter's moon and Watcher in the sky. I would even defend Twenties, in the same way I would defend Three days by Dream Theater. The only song that doesn't quite work for me is the ballad, it's fairly ordinary.
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The new album is doing pretty well on the charts across the world in the first week.
- Germany: #1 (the band's highest-ever position in Germany)
- Sweden: #1
- U.K.: #2 (the band's highest-ever position in the UK)
- Netherlands: #2 (the band's highest-ever position in The Netherlands)
- Belgium: #2 (the band's highest-ever position in Belgium)
- Norway: #2
- Australia: #3 (the band's highest-ever position in Australia)
- France: #5 (the band's highest-ever position in France)
- Ireland: #5 (the band's highest-ever position in Ireland)
- Italy: #20 (the band's highest-ever position in Italy)
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Some of my favorites include Spillways, Kaiserion, Respite, Hunter's moon and Watcher in the sky. I would even defend Twenties, in the same way I would defend Three days by Dream Theater. The only song that doesn't quite work for me is the ballad, it's fairly ordinary.
Twenties is a awesome song, like something from Faith No More in their pomp.
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My first reaction to Twenties was "was the fuck is this", but I kept coming back to it and now I love it. It also works really well in the context of the album. To me it is also one of their most intense songs, in a weird way.
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I can't get Griftwood out of my head, geez.
Anyway.... Tobias did it again, this album won me over! it's perfect and it's gonna go down at one of the best albums of the latest year? no. Would I wish for some things to be more different, like more dark and heavy vibes? hell yeah. But when I stop to judge the album for what is not, and see it for what it is, I enjoy the hell out of it.
I said before, and someone agreed, that all Ghost albums are "easy" to listen to, not in the poppish sense of the word, but in the sense that every album is a coherent experience that does not bore you or tire you. Impera is not an exception. The album (again, maybe not the OMG UNBELIEAVABLE MASTERPIECE BEST EVER!!!11) flows very well, all the songs are at the very least good, and once you hear the theme of Impera closing off the album, the experience comes full circle.
Perfect? no. Another (maybe sleeper) hit that is well worth of being added to the Ghost discography if you judge it for what it is? absolutely!!!!
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Anyone else think it's Deadhead (by Devin Townsend) any time Griftwood starts :lol Good albums for me, for now. Can't compare it to previous two yet but I already like it more than first two.
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Finally got the album and gave it a few listens. Very good stuff. Need more listens to say more, but this is so far my favorite album release of 2022. (competition hasn't been hard so far though).
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Love seeing all of these positive reviews. I will be picking up this new one very soon.
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Love seeing all of these positive reviews. I will be picking up this new one very soon.
You are in for a treat!
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I don't get it, sorry.
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I don't get it, sorry.
Did you give the last album a shot?
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I don't get it, sorry.
Did you give the last album a shot?
I've really just sampled them here and there. I saw them open for Iron Maiden, and I thought that band was great. I had sampled some of their earlier stuff before that and it didn't grab me. I liked what I heard at the show, but the band members really sold their performance. I bought the live album and have only listened to it a couple of times.
I also must say that I'm of a fan of the singer. It's not the characters that bug me, but the guy, IMO, seems like a real dick. His stage banter is fucking dreadful. Plus, he's getting sued by ex band members?
I've thought about doing a deep dive on them and reporting back in the thread, but I just haven't gotten up the strength to see it through.
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I saw a Ghost show and thought it totally delivered. The musicians were excellent. And yes I thought the stage banter was a bit silly at times, but I assume that is Tobias' stage persona. It was a bit disappointing but maybe I just had a different expectation going in. But I I do not really know anything about him personally. I also am only aware of the lawsuit; I have not followed the particulars.
I would definitely suggest diving in to the discography. There are only 5 albums and much shorter than an average contemporary CD. And their songs always sound better within the context of their albums. I never think "I am going to listen to this one Ghost song..." because it won't be nearly as enjoyable as a standalone.
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I don't get it, sorry.
Did you give the last album a shot?
I've really just sampled them here and there. I saw them open for Iron Maiden, and I thought that band was great. I had sampled some of their earlier stuff before that and it didn't grab me. I liked what I heard at the show, but the band members really sold their performance. I bought the live album and have only listened to it a couple of times.
I also must say that I'm of a fan of the singer. It's not the characters that bug me, but the guy, IMO, seems like a real dick. His stage banter is fucking dreadful. Plus, he's getting sued by ex band members?
I've thought about doing a deep dive on them and reporting back in the thread, but I just haven't gotten up the strength to see it through.
I'm not sure I can say much about Tobias Forge (the singer) as a person, but from what I can gather he's a really good all-around songwriter, with a knack for writing catchy stuff that has a way of grabbing you and, importantly, staying with you ;D Looks like he's collaborated more with external songwriters for this last album, but in general I think he's pretty talented that way.
As for individual records: Not sure what of the earlier stuff you sampled, but I think you might enjoy the first (Opus Eponymous), to start. It's very catchy, as all Ghost albums, but it has more of that dark/occult rock vibe, with traces of (simplified) Mercyful Fate, Blue Oyster Cult, and some Sabbath. Not particularly heavy, and the production/arrangements are much more "bare bones" than the more recent material, but it's really good.
I would also definitely give the last one a listen. Some brilliant stuff in there. There's a stronger 80s influence in general, and the songs are incredibly well crafted and arranged.
If I had to pick my overall favorite, I'd probably say Meliora (their third), but really their catalog is consistently good (their second, Infestissumam, is my least favorite, but even that one has a bunch of really good tunes)
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I got through probably half of the new album on its release day. Interesting for sure. I could manage a 5 album deep dive I guess.
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One thing I noticed about Ghost's albums is that they feel like they are the right length. Sometimes I will listen to an album, even one I fully enjoy, and think "phew, I made it." If it was a new album, it is sometimes "wow, that was a lot to take in..." Ghost albums never feel like that. I once read a great essay about how the hour-long Seinfeld episodes were not as strong as the normal episodes because something was lost when they didn't have to be as concise to meet the time allowed in a half hour sitcom. And maybe there is something to Jerry's notion of "Always leave 'em wanting more..."
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I wake up. Impera tracks are in my head. I wander round the house. Sing Impera songs to myself. Get the groceries. Humming Impera songs.
He really writes terrific SONGS. Metal has largely lost its way with that over the last couple of decades, with more of a focus on "extreme" influences and production values, imo. Love that Ghost is so song oriented.
I've not seen them live so not sure about the silly banter, but I've always seen them as a silly, goofy, tongue in cheek band.
Agree about album length.. For the most part, less is more.
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I've not seen them live so not sure about the silly banter, but I've always seen them as a silly, goofy, tongue in cheek band.
I'm seriously toying with going to see them in London at the 02 on April the 11th - the only thing that's stopping me is Covid, which is getting worse again in the UK sadly.
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Ghost was here last month, and I had thought about going, but tickets ended up being crazy expensive, so I passed. I later looked at the set list and was glad I didn't go because a) the show seemed pretty short (only 15 songs as the main act, which is not a lot considering their songs are not long), and b) they didn't play He Is, which was my gateway song for them and one I would have been bummed about not seeing.
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Ghost was here last month, and I had thought about going, but tickets ended up being crazy expensive, so I passed. I later looked at the set list and was glad I didn't go because a) the show seemed pretty short (only 15 songs as the main act, which is not a lot considering their songs are not long), and b) they didn't play He Is, which was my gateway song for them and one I would have been bummed about not seeing.
Think that was part of the joint headlining tour with Volbeat - which both bands played a similar length shorter than normal set.
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Yup, that's a coheadlining tour set. Their previous US tour was just them doing two sets so we might have gotten a little spoiled. The one show Volbeat missed when the drummer got covid is the only show Ghost performed He Is.
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I've not seen them live so not sure about the silly banter, but I've always seen them as a silly, goofy, tongue in cheek band.
I'm seriously toying with going to see them in London at the 02 on April the 11th - the only thing that's stopping me is Covid, which is getting worse again in the UK sadly.
Yeah, I'm toying with the Birmingham date. I just went to Chvrches and didn't get covid there. My inherent laziness will probably be what stops me. ;D
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Ghost is absolutely worth the price of admission for a live show. I agree that Tobias' banter can't be grating, but the set, costumes, music, and performance quality are with seeing. I will definitely see them if they roll through here again on the Impera tour.
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Their latest Instagram post hints at a possible live release?
"We wish to inform you Ghost’s recent rituals will live on in infamy… #IMPERA #LiveMusic #thebandghost"
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Some random thoughts after about a week with the release and listening to it 3 times. I had not heard the singles.
- my first listen was underwhelming. I guess I wasn't really in the mood for it
- I enjoy it musically, but lyrically the album can get a little annoying here and there (300 times 'searchlight looking for the watcher in the sky' being the main culprit)
- That song is annoying and I don't like it
- Kaisarion was an easy favourite the first listen
- I like Spillways as well
- I don't get that Sunshine and Hunter's Moon were apparently the singles. Well, maybe I do, but they're among the less interesting tracks here
- Twenties is amazing, what an awesome track
- The Darkness .... is like a mediocre version of He Is so far. Maybe it'll grow on me later
- I think the modulatioon at the end of Griftwood (another cool track!) is really well done
- There's something about their album closers (every one so far apart from Absolution) that doesn't really work for me
- It's very much Ghost, but still stands out among their catalogue
- I like it.
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- There's something about their album closers (every one so far apart from Absolution) that doesn't really work for me
....which isn't a closer, since it's followed up by Deus in Absentia ;D
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Shit, I thought I had that wrong.
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I especially love Life Eternal as a closer but also dig Deus Absentia and ROTS as well.
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Life Eternal is also my favorite, followed by Monstrance Clock.
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Life Eternal and Deus in Absentia are very good at closing off their respective album and their themes.
An album about death and the plague ends with a melanchonic ballad about mourning eternal loss, and an album about the rise of the antichrist paints a very bleak vision of the future. Spitalfields has really grown a lot on me, and although the lyrics are on point, it doesn't give me the "whoah, it's really the end, another empire has fallen" vibe. But the reprise of Imperium at the end is cool and does an Octavariumish "full circle" thing where it brings you back to the first line of Kaisarion, "we're building our empire from the ashes of the old".
And of course the chorus is very great: "We will break away together, I'll be shadow, you'll be the light... nothing ever lasts forever, we will go softly into the night" :hefdaddy
And since we're talking about closers, Monster Clock is awesome as well!
I have a hard way to describe Infestissumam, but it's, dunno.... theatrical? cinematic? the first album was "just" retro doom metal, but the second one is more atmospheric, embellished with specific sounds and moods that really elevate many of the songs - the spooky waltz of Secular Haze, the retro style of Jigolo Har Megiddo, the atmosphere of the beginning of Zombie Queen, and of course Monstrance Clock is no exception. It's an album I could imagine being performed in a lavish theater, I know it's not everyone's favorite but I always found it very cool.
Actually it took me forever to get used to Meliora, that I basically bailed out during Papa III's era, I wish I was there for that. Only Prequelle "brought me back" and made me realize what I missed (I have seen Ghost opening for Maiden in 2013 when there was Papa II, and then I saw them open for Metallica with Cardinal Copia. Sad I missed Papa III!)
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I have a hard way to describe Infestissumam, but it's, dunno.... theatrical? cinematic? the first album was "just" retro doom metal, but the second one is more atmospheric, embellished with specific sounds and moods that really elevate many of the songs - the spooky waltz of Secular Haze, the retro style of Jigolo Har Megiddo, the atmosphere of the beginning of Zombie Queen, and of course Monstrance Clock is no exception. It's an album I could imagine being performed in a lavish theater, I know it's not everyone's favorite but I always found it very cool.
It's my favourite Ghost album, still to this day. I know I'm in the minority though, lots of people don't seem to rank it that high. But songs like Secular Haze, Zombie Queen, Year Zero, and Body And Blood, makes it such a great one. It was also the album where my interest in them got started, so that could factor in as well.
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And for the 6346th episode of "why the phuck not" of Ghost, here's a 30 minutes mockumentary that explains the history of the band :lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9niLIO6X-MM&ab_channel=Ghost
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Such a hilarious video. The joke's on me, I turned it on thinking it will be a serious documentary. :lol
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The best thing is that this is labeled as "part 2", but there is no part 1 :rollin
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It's my favourite Ghost album, still to this day. I know I'm in the minority though, lots of people don't seem to rank it that high.
It's mine too,
1. Infestissumam.
Then it get tough as there isn't much between Meliora, Prequelle and Impera. I think i'd go...
2. Prequelle - I love the theme of this album.
3. Impera - It's grown on me so much.
4. Meliora - Maybe rank higher than Impera is you include 'Square Hammer'.
5. Opus Eponymous.
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Saw Ghost in the O2 London last night. Very entertaining! Twin Temple the first support act were also really good. Uncle Acid and the Deadbeats were a bit bland though....But Ghost yeah....very, very good. Strong setlist too - although heavily drawn from the last 3 albums.
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I believe they live debuted two Impera songs last night?
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I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers, I will be seeing them on the 5th of May :D
Looking forward to it, opening is Uncle Acid and I know of them so I have at least an additional band to look forward to.
It's the icing on the cake, I like some of their songs but I'm not such a fan to the point that I would go to see them on purpouse, but having them served on a plate before Ghost is gonna be cool.
(Second edit, isn't it cool when such things happen, especially at a festival? we can't all either love a band or be completely indifferent, we all have our middle of the road bands, those that "yeah, they're cool I guess, I'm not gonna pay specifically for a concert or drive 2 hours just to see them, but since I'm going to this festival anyway I'm gonna check them out").
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I believe they live debuted two Impera songs last night?
They played 4 songs from Impera. They were the same 4 as the Manchester date - the setlist was pretty much the same aside from London got Mary on a Cross (which I was super happy about as I love that song) ;D
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Looking forward to it, opening is Uncle Acid and I know of them so I have at least an additional band to look forward to.
When I said they were bland, they were sandwiched between Twin Temple and Ghost who are highly theatrical and fun. Uncle Acid were just 4(?) guys dressed normally playing fuzz-driven rock, I wasn't familiar with their music and it tended to all blend into one swirling sound!
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I believe they live debuted two Impera songs last night?
They played 4 songs from Impera. They were the same 4 as the Manchester date - the setlist was pretty much the same aside from London got Mary on a Cross (which I was super happy about as I love that song) ;D
Ah you're right, they were debuted in Manchester on the 9th.
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Spoilers for the lore of the band, and therefore a song in the show. I want to put the tinfoil hat and be a Ghost conspirationist too ;D
Browsing the Ghost sub on Reddit means that Reddit, even if I'm not actually following, suggests me articles, and therefore I know that they play Miasma and.... Papa Nihil is back! they necromance him to life just to play the sax solo, then he probably goes back to being a dead mummy, dunno.
In the latest Youtube video, someone also pointed out how there were three candles lighted for a saint that has something to do with life eternal or resurrection of whatever, and we know there are three dead Papas now.
So, combine all of this:
- The album is about rise and fall of the empires
- Forge said that Copia would be around 4-5 years
- It's kinda a given that for the next album there will be a new character
- Papa Nihil is back
And my crazy theory is that....
...as suggested by the last stanza of Respite on the Spitalfields, Cardinal Copia (now Emeritus IV) is an imposter, and the three previous Papas will be brought back to life to kill him or anyway depose him.
Think of what a spectable it must be to see Emeritus IV on stage (Forge will be playing him of course, he has to sing) and the three other Papas appearing TOGETHER (they will be played by actors, a mask is a mask) and, dunno, kill him with knives or something :lol they will be resurrected to depose him and we will see them all together in their former glory.
For the next album there will be a new character, it would be cool to see the three Papas ruling together but changing two masks mid-concert would bee too much of an annoyance, but I want to call it now: Nihil is back and so will Papa Emeritus I, II and III, and that's how Emeritus IV will go down.
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Spoilers for the lore of the band, and therefore a song in the show. I want to put the tinfoil hat and be a Ghost conspirationist too ;D
Browsing the Ghost sub on Reddit means that Reddit, even if I'm not actually following, suggests me articles, and therefore I know that they play Miasma and.... Papa Nihil is back! they necromance him to life just to play the sax solo, then he probably goes back to being a dead mummy, dunno.
Yeah he pops back for the Sax solo on Miasma (which is very funny, cus you get the goofy dancing with the Ghouls) - then the stage goes black and when the lights comeback on Papa Nihil is gone and Forge (who disappears during entirety of Miasma) wandered back on stage and asks 'Did I miss anything?'.
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Aaaand I finally saw Ghost the way it was meant to be, a headliner show with the full production!!! :metal
After Sonisphere 2013 (festival) and the opening slot for Metallica in 2019, I finally got the full deal. Absolutely entertaining and spectacular show, it was my first concert in the usual big arena where everyone "big" plays (Dream Theater included, and I'm gonna see them there TOMORROW!!!).
The production, the light show, the costumes, everything was tied together to offer an amazing show. Loved the various costumes, would have liked to see more of the papal robes but hey, you can't jump around for stuff like Kaisarion and Square Hammer dressed as a pope ;D
Setlist was great, although a bit predictable - it was basically all the "hits" from previous albums, no real surprises, but I had a blast anyway. A pity I missed their headliner show last time around, but I did sure have the time of my life with this one!!!!
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Aaaand I finally saw Ghost the way it was meant to be, a headliner show with the full production!!! :metal
After Sonisphere 2013 (festival) and the opening slot for Metallica in 2019, I finally got the full deal. Absolutely entertaining and spectacular show, it was my first concert in the usual big arena where everyone "big" plays (Dream Theater included, and I'm gonna see them there TOMORROW!!!).
The production, the light show, the costumes, everything was tied together to offer an amazing show. Loved the various costumes, would have liked to see more of the papal robes but hey, you can't jump around for stuff like Kaisarion and Square Hammer dressed as a pope ;D
Setlist was great, although a bit predictable - it was basically all the "hits" from previous albums, no real surprises, but I had a blast anyway. A pity I missed their headliner show last time around, but I did sure have the time of my life with this one!!!!
Just had a look at the setlist and it's the same as I saw at London, twas a good one - although could have done with a couple more from Infestissumam.
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Yeah, literally any song in place of Enter Sandman would have been cool.
Altough I've read is for a noble cause - when they were asked to cover a song for that Metallica compilation, they were also asked to pick a charity, and they went for one that supports transgender kids, so each time they play the song live a little bit of royalties get channeled into that charity.
So I applaud them for that, even though I'm still skeptical about not only having a cover in the set, but one of the most known and overplayed songs of the entire genre. I mean, it's not that they're playing Avalanche or If You Have Ghost, it's Enter freakin' Sandman, we've heard it enough for 10 lifetimes :D
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I would have preferred any other song from Impera (Twenties!) over Hunters Moon. And I'm probably in the minority here but I've never been overly keen on Mummy Dust so would have happily swapped that out. But you always get a few personal quibbles and overall it was a great set.
What did you make of Twin Temples - I thought they were great!
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Definitely agree on Mummy Dust. It's just not that great a song, and it's in every single setlist on every single tour.
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What did you make of Twin Temples - I thought they were great!
Eh, missed them.
Uncle Acid was cool, classic band that I'll take a chance to see them if they're already in a lineup, but wouldn't pay for an headliner concerts of them.
I also agree on Mummy Dust, I don't mind the song but it should be the first, for me, to get the axe.
In my compilation - I always like to create compilations that flow like a setlist - the first encore song is Monstrance Clock, if you cut out the chanting outro, it flows quite nicely into Dance Macabre, the transition is kinda cool!
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BUMP!
Ghost have just released a new music video, this one is for the track 'Spillways'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DV1eHQpcA
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BUMP!
Ghost have just released a new music video, this one is for the track 'Spillways'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9DV1eHQpcA
Nice! I haven't been listening to this album much recently so this was good to get it back on my radar.
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Been spinning this one a lot since finally picking it up a few weeks ago. Catchy, fun, and some head banging. The closing track is my favorite.
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That was a fantastic choice for a single. It was just a matter of time before the video for it was released. Tobias is well aware that he needs to keep a truly great single for later on. Nothing else matters was the third or fourth single from The Black album, you cannot put it out right away.
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Been spinning this one a lot since finally picking it up a few weeks ago. Catchy, fun, and some head banging. The closing track is my favorite.
Yeah, I listened a few times recently after a few months of it on the shelf. It's a really good album. It's near the top of my favorite albums of 2022 so far.
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I still listen to Impera regularly, and it's SO good.
The songs are uber-catchy, of course, but the arrangements are so rich and well thought-out...there's a lot going on, especially with the guitars. Instrumentally, there's always some neat variations from one verse to the other and you can really tell Tobias knows his craft (along with the producers, I'm sure)
Spillways is no different, it's a great song. Intro is very early Toto/Bon Jovi, but the melodies give me a Trash-era Alice Cooper vibe.
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The songs are uber-catchy, of course, but the arrangements are so rich and well thought-out...there's a lot going on, especially with the guitars. Instrumentally, there's always some neat variations from one verse to the other and you can really tell Tobias knows his craft (along with the producers, I'm sure)
Watcher in the Sky for example is not that memorable and repetitive, but the bridge "For the light of the savior, his machiavellian grace" (or something to that effect) is awesome.
And what about Griftwood? "Holy mother, you're washing the sins from our feet.... holy mother, you shine like the sun and the moon and the stars and the sky".... :hefdaddy
That song is a damn grower, at first I was almost annoyed by it, I thought it was catchy in an irritating way, and slowed down the album too much between a ballad and the slowish closing epic, but damn if it's catchy indeed, and the Holy Mother part is absolutely beautiful.
And speaking of the ballad, I love the outro with the dark low voice beneath.
When the summer dies...
Severing the ties...
I'm with you always...
A-a-a-always......
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I am not too crazy about the ballad, but those backing vocals on the outro are very touching.
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Spillways is no different, it's a great song. Intro is very early Toto/Bon Jovi, but the melodies give me a Trash-era Alice Cooper vibe.
Through the spillways
Through the spillways
Of your soul
Is very, very close in melody to:
You're poison
You're poison
Running through my veins
I still enjoy Impera regularly. Great record.
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Spillways is no different, it's a great song. Intro is very early Toto/Bon Jovi, but the melodies give me a Trash-era Alice Cooper vibe.
Through the spillways
Through the spillways
Of your soul
Is very, very close in melody to:
You're poison
You're poison
Running through my veins
I still enjoy Impera regularly. Great record.
Yep, that's exactly what I was thinking about...
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But Tobias didn't bother getting the super-hot lady in navy underwear for his video. :tdwn
1 star. Would not recommend.
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But Tobias didn't bother getting the super-hot lady in navy underwear for his video. :tdwn
1 star. Would not recommend.
:lol
Speaking of that video, a short story - there was this daily 30-minute show on Italian TV at the end of the 80s (maybe going into the 90s too, can't quite remember)...they just had music videos and would go over some top 10 or whatever. Anyway, it airs early in the afternoon and I would sometimes watch it after coming back from school.
Well, the one day in 1989 they went ahead and air the "uncensored" version of the Poison video, where the aforementioned lady shows more, um, goodies than the regular version. To reiterate - this is regular TV (not cable), and it's 2 in the afternoon or something, so you can imagine the surprise for 12-year old me (and - I'd imagine - anyone that tuned in) :biggrin: I had seen the regular video many times on the Italian MTV channel (Poison was pretty big when it came out) and did NOT expect this. Not sure if that was a mistake or someone at the station deciding to have some fun :biggrin:
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:o :lol
That's great. I wasn't aware that another version even existed.
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Apparently "Mary on a Cross" is becoming a TikTok hit or something. I'm not on that site because I'm in my 40s, but this news makes me happy because that's the Ghost song I always felt deserved much more exposure.
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Apparently "Mary on a Cross" is becoming a TikTok hit or something. I'm not on that site because I'm in 40s, but this news makes me happy because that's the Ghost song I always felt deserved much more exposure.
I saw a headline about this but haven't come across it on my tiktok feed.
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Not on Tik Tok because I'm also in my 40's. But saw the headlines, something to do with Stranger Things - which I do watch because I'm in my 40's.
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I want to add a Ghost song to my trick or treating playlist but I also don’t want to offend anyone as we usually get 100+ kids at our house. Thinking ‘Dance Macabre’ is a safe choice, anyone think of something a little more spookier while staying family friendly?
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Just go with Year Zero. The kids gotta learn at some point, man. ;D
I think Hunter's moon is a fun choice. It's not too heavy, there's no reference to the devil, but it's still spooky.
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Hunter's Moon was written for the Halloween movie last year, so it's a perfect choice for your playlist.
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Funny thing about being family friendly, the new album has no mention of Lucifer or Satan or the devil, but it's quite "satanic".
I mean, I'm not that interested in that stuff, I just happened to stumble upon some description of the thing, but basically there are two types of satanism: the silly, over the top one, with the robes and the chants and whatever cheesy thing you can imagine, and the more "philosophic" one, where a philosophy of life is just labelled "satanism" because the figure of the devil is taken as an example and allegory for self determination, being true to yourself, rejecting dogmas and religious impositions etc...
From that point of view, the new album is full of these so called "satanic" themes. So, you won't find direct references to Lucifer, Satan and the likes, but Impera has definitively "satanic" themes through and through.
There might be some inaccurancies in what I've wrote, as I said, I'm not actually into that thing. But the general gist is there.
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Yep, most of the new album could pass. Except if the kids happen to know who Mefistofeles is. :lol
Also, do not forget to exclude Twenties. For obvious reasons. ;D
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So, I'm not sure if this has been brought up, but does anyone else feel like there have been some recent songs by Ghost that REALLY sound like things classic Jethro Tull would do?
Notwithstanding obvious arrangement and production differences, I was really surprised at how much Miasma (to a degree) and particularly Call Me Little Sunshine sound like Ian Anderson/Martin Barre ideas.
Conversely, it feels really easy to imagine current Ghost playing something like To Cry You a Song :metal
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Anyone want to make a guess?
https://youtu.be/fEll1eM04ds
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Anyone want to make a guess?
https://youtu.be/fEll1eM04ds
Apparently it's a new version of Spillways with Joe Elliott (Def Leppard) on vocals.
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Anyone want to make a guess?
https://youtu.be/fEll1eM04ds
Apparently it's a new version of Spillways with Joe Elliott (Def Leppard) on vocals.
It is, but I have to be honest, not sure you can even tell Joe is singing…. https://youtu.be/NnD_puW9kr8
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Anyone want to make a guess?
https://youtu.be/fEll1eM04ds
Apparently it's a new version of Spillways with Joe Elliott (Def Leppard) on vocals.
It is, but I have to be honest, not sure you can even tell Joe is singing…. https://youtu.be/NnD_puW9kr8
I think Joe's sound comes out pretty well in the lyric video.
And now I'm itching for another listen to Impera lol. Gonna have to fire it up after Witherfall's Prelude to Sorrow finishes on the record player (by which I mean Apple Music).
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You can hear Joe better on the lines that are just him, but when they both sing it's harder to tell. Honestly, I think it's cool (I'm a DL fan) to see this collab, but the end result is kind of meh for me.
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You can hear Joe better on the lines that are just him, but when they both sing it's harder to tell....
Without a doubt. Is this collab completely unnecessary? Absolutely. Is it still fun? You bet.
Spillways is my favorite track on the record, so there's no such thing as too much Spillways for this guy. One of my favorite YouTube guitar players (Erock) is a huge fan of Ghost. I've been waiting for him to cover the song with his take on the solo, which I expect will be ridiculous shredding.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fo2jbhSaQAM-jus?format=jpg&name=large)
that last date at the forum is Ghost only and a phone free event, maybe a live album taping?
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Is that when Papa Emeritus IV will meet his demise? or it's too soon and there will be more concerts next year?
It has to be said however than when he was anointed Papa they didn't bother to forbid cameras, so I tend more on the "live album" thing...
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Is that when Papa Emeritus IV will meet his demise? or it's too soon and there will be more concerts next year?
It has to be said however than when he was anointed Papa they didn't bother to forbid cameras, so I tend more on the "live album" thing...
Probably both the end of this current version of Ghost and a live recording of it.
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We'll see. I still have my idea that, if Papa Nihil can be brought back to life, so can the other three previous Papas, and they will kill Copia / Emeritus IV who will be exposed as an imposter, see his very name (means "copy" in italian) and the last stanza of Respite on the Spitalfields talking about the "king that they hailed" being just "the wizard of Oz", another imposter ;D
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I LOVE Ghost—I love the songs, I love the costumes, I love the facepaint...I mean, to me, they scratch the same itch as KISS.
That all said, the whole 'Papa Whatever the IV' thing is, by far, the dumbest thing ever (In my opinion). It is completely lost upon me.
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It is completely lost upon me.
Same. I don't really care for the lore of the band. I'm here for the music.
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Whoa, playing the White River Amphitheater up here. Nice!
I like aspects of their lore, but can't say I really follow it. I do appreciate they are trying to do something unique.
That phone policy is... I don't know, I get it is their deal and they can run it however they want, but something about being a husband and father and not having access to my phone every second of my life is something I struggle with.
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That phone policy is... I don't know, I get it is their deal and they can run it however they want, but something about being a husband and father and not having access to my phone every second of my life is something I struggle with.
It's only for the one show in LA. It sounds like a Yondr pouch show, which I've been to before. You put your phone in a pouch that you can put in your pocket for the show. If you need to use your phone, you can walk out to the concessions and there will be a spot you can go to to unlock it and use your phone there before they make you put it back in to return to the seating area. I'm not a big fan of this in general, but this is the better implementation of a no camera policy than the usher approach some bands use IMO
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That phone policy is... I don't know, I get it is their deal and they can run it however they want, but something about being a husband and father and not having access to my phone every second of my life is something I struggle with.
It's only for the one show in LA. It sounds like a Yondr pouch show, which I've been to before. You put your phone in a pouch that you can put in your pocket for the show. If you need to use your phone, you can walk out to the concessions and there will be a spot you can go to to unlock it and use your phone there before they make you put it back in to return to the seating area. I'm not a big fan of this in general, but this is the better implementation of a no camera policy than the usher approach some bands use IMO
Not a concert goer so never heard of those or experienced that. I like how it is clearly spelled out and yes maybe better than ushers scouring the seats for cell phone usage. I just think about being a parent and away from home, and not being available. It's more psychological than anything. 20 years ago we couldn't contact anyone at any time from a small device that fits in our pocket and managed to survive.
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That phone policy is... I don't know, I get it is their deal and they can run it however they want, but something about being a husband and father and not having access to my phone every second of my life is something I struggle with.
It's only for the one show in LA. It sounds like a Yondr pouch show, which I've been to before. You put your phone in a pouch that you can put in your pocket for the show. If you need to use your phone, you can walk out to the concessions and there will be a spot you can go to to unlock it and use your phone there before they make you put it back in to return to the seating area. I'm not a big fan of this in general, but this is the better implementation of a no camera policy than the usher approach some bands use IMO
Not a concert goer so never heard of those or experienced that. I like how it is clearly spelled out and yes maybe better than ushers scouring the seats for cell phone usage. I just think about being a parent and away from home, and not being available. It's more psychological than anything. 20 years ago we couldn't contact anyone at any time from a small device that fits in our pocket and managed to survive.
Yeah, I think your concern is the biggest issue with this. I guess the ushers would still allow you to take a text quickly. I know when I saw Porcupine Tree, they were pretty strict about pulling a phone out at all but you probably could sneak it in quickly before they noticed you and got to your location. I'm not a fan of bands generally having this policy, but I'm not too bothered if it's part of filming a show. In fact, it kind of makes sense in that case.
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Again, as someone who doesn't frequent concerts or buy concert videos, I don't really get it. Are people really thinking "No way am I going to buy that professionally produced concert video, I can just watch what some dude posted on YouTube that he filmed from the 300 level..."?
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I LOVE Ghost—I love the songs, I love the costumes, I love the facepaint...I mean, to me, they scratch the same itch as KISS.
That all said, the whole 'Papa Whatever the IV' thing is, by far, the dumbest thing ever (In my opinion). It is completely lost upon me.
It is completely lost upon me.
Same. I don't really care for the lore of the band. I'm here for the music.
It's just something more, a fun and nerd way to play around with the image of the band.
What if Kiss at a point got tired of wearing the same makeup and the band members came up with new characters? it's a bit like that.
Of course, there was really no "need" for the character to change, every normal band changes their outfits and appearances from tour to tour so there's nothing preventing Tobias from playing the same character who changes the appeareance to fit the overall theme of the album / tour, but well, he felt at the beginning to do this trick (and it even played well with the lore, when the band was small and anonymous enough for some people to really assume there was a singer change, rather than just a character change), so I guess this is the deal.
I personally don't mind and I even enjoy the lore, it's something more for nerd people who like this kind of stuff, but it's not so distracting to the point that you "have" to follow the lore to enjoy the live show. You can still be a fan, listen to their albums, go to their live shows, and you don't miss out on absolutely anything if you don't follow the lore of the band.
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I LOVE Ghost—I love the songs, I love the costumes, I love the facepaint...I mean, to me, they scratch the same itch as KISS.
That all said, the whole 'Papa Whatever the IV' thing is, by far, the dumbest thing ever (In my opinion). It is completely lost upon me.
It is completely lost upon me.
Same. I don't really care for the lore of the band. I'm here for the music.
It's just something more, a fun and nerd way to play around with the image of the band.
What if Kiss at a point got tired of wearing the same makeup and the band members came up with new characters? it's a bit like that.
Of course, there was really no "need" for the character to change, every normal band changes their outfits and appearances from tour to tour so there's nothing preventing Tobias from playing the same character who changes the appeareance to fit the overall theme of the album / tour, but well, he felt at the beginning to do this trick (and it even played well with the lore, when the band was small and anonymous enough for some people to really assume there was a singer change, rather than just a character change), so I guess this is the deal.
I personally don't mind and I even enjoy the lore, it's something more for nerd people who like this kind of stuff, but it's not so distracting to the point that you "have" to follow the lore to enjoy the live show. You can still be a fan, listen to their albums, go to their live shows, and you don't miss out on absolutely anything if you don't follow the lore of the band.
That's a fair point and a good analogy!
To that point—Kiss did add more characters, and honestly, once they did, they kinda lost me there as well.
That all said, no amount of ridiculous KISS PR decisions could change my thoughts on my favorite KISS albums—Ghost is no different.
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I'm thinking about checking this out. I enjoyed how their new songs sounded, and consider it their best stuff. I also wouldn't mind seeing Amon Amarth either. But, we'll see how much tickets cost, and If I can even get a standard pit ticket without those tickets being a part of a VIP package.
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I personally don't mind and I even enjoy the lore, it's something more for nerd people who like this kind of stuff, but it's not so distracting to the point that you "have" to follow the lore to enjoy the live show. You can still be a fan, listen to their albums, go to their live shows, and you don't miss out on absolutely anything if you don't follow the lore of the band.
My comment wasn't meant to diss the lore of the band, just that it's not of interest to me. But generally, I don't have an issue and it can be kind of cool and interesting as the music changes with the lore.
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Christ these guys have gotten expensive to see, a far cry from my first time seeing them.
$90 after fees for upper bowl at the Forum, $150 for GA floor. I get that it's probably going to be a special show for the end of the tour, but yeesh
Factor in the variable pricing and it's becoming detective work to figure out the best time to buy a ticket these days :facepalm:
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Christ these guys have gotten expensive to see, a far cry from my first time seeing them.
$90 after fees for upper bowl at the Forum, $150 for GA floor. I get that it's probably going to be a special show for the end of the tour, but yeesh
Factor in the variable pricing and it's becoming detective work to figure out the best time to buy a ticket these days :facepalm:
It feels like the stock market to me. Having to pay attention to which time might be the best moment to buy tickets as the seats will be released or the pricing goes down to due to hype dying down. And then deciding to buy when it's low. :yarr
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with a second LA Forum show added I said screw it and managed to snag a seat in the front row of the lower bowl down the side, and somehow these are even more expensive! The most i saw for face value was $200 after fees, mine was around $160ish. Add on guaranteed $45+ for parking and its no wonder I don't go to more Forum shows :\
The no phone element is a bummer, especially at a venue of this size where I can see delays in entering the venue due to the Yondr process, but it'll be cool to witness a unique Ghost show where they're likely introducing a new Papa.
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The no phone element is a bummer, especially at a venue of this size where I can see delays in entering the venue due to the Yondr process, but it'll be cool to witness a unique Ghost show where they're likely introducing a new Papa.
In the latest clip of their wacky YouTube shorts, they were carrying around an empty coffin, like the ones they use to display, during meet n' greets, the bodies of the previous Papas. And our boy was a bit confused and startled by the sight. Maybe it's a misdirection but it looks like his time might come soon.
I wonder if they'll add a twist in the story, going from Papa to Papa was predictable so Tobias came up with the cardinal, let's see if we'll have simply another "normal" character swap, or he'll do something different and even wackier :lol
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New EP Phantomime coming, May 18th
(https://preview.redd.it/new-ep-phantomime-v0-v84ejjvjhqsa1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=80d39f4e52f7ee9b501af921c96be227118d77ea)
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This is basically a leak, they put it up too early and took it down.
Just like it happened in the past, it's a cover EP, and it includes Phantom of the Opera!!!! will it be the musical song, or the Iron Maiden one? my bet is on the former :D
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It is apparently the Iron Maiden cover. Also, the cover of Jesus he knows me was just released. They turned an average pop ditty by a legendary prog band into a powerful summer rocker:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE3kJeBr9QI&ab_channel=Ghost
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I might look forward to their cover EPs more than their actual albums. I just never know what I'm gonna get. Apparently there's also a Tina Turner cover on it which should be interesting.
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Pretty awesome :metal
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New single is great! They do have a knack for picking great songs to cover!
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[MESSAGE FROM THE CLERGY]
Ghost's new Phantomime EP is a devilish debut of 5 incorrigible covers. It is out everywhere May 18th and available for pre-order here: https://i.ghost-official.com/Phantomime
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Obsessed with the new single. Bring on that EP, Papa!
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I feel Ghost is at their peak right now, I hope they can maintain for a bit because I can’t get enough of them. They’re just plain fun.
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Phantom of the opera (https://youtu.be/Wn-VdZ4LEKg)
This was a cool cover! :tup
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:metal :metal :metal
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That Maiden cover is awesome! :metal
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Both new covers are great. Honestly, I prefer them to anything from Impera. :lol
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Well done, Ghouls, well done indeed! In the Maiden countdown thread, I had Phantom at #2. I really enjoyed this rendition, though I don't know how much, if any, I will listen to it, due to my love for the original.
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Great cover in the instrumentation. Vocally, not really into it, but he adds that unique Ghost flavour.
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Check out the solo in Hanging Around. It sounds like Metallica's Fade To Black at around 2:49. I'm sure it was intentional :P
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Check out the solo in Hanging Around. It sounds like Metallica's Fade To Black at around 2:49. I'm sure it was intentional :P
Yea, I just noticed that. It's so obvious it must be a nod. :lol
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Ha! It totally sounds like a nod!
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I wonder if Ghost are going to play We Don't Need Another Hero in honor of Tina Turner in the coming days? They have a show in France tonight. I see they haven't performed it live yet (only the Genesis cover from the EP so far).
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I'm really loving Phantomime. Some bands are just great at picking covers that work for them. Ghost is one of those bands for me. They make it their own but celebrate the original.
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Saw them last night in Milan, amazing show, just like last year's.
Right now Ghost are one of the best live bands around to see. The full production, the grandeur, everything screams "big stadium act". Absolutely entertaining from beginning to end!
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Phantomime so far is my least favorite covers EP of theirs. How do I put this... it felt like Tobias doing karaoke (doing it well) and not him putting a Ghost spin on a song. He just set the bar so high with his covers.
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Ghost statement for show cancellations:
https://lotsofmuzik.com/ghost-issues-statement-clarifying-sudden-show-cancellation-earlier-this-week/
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So... what's this thing about Papa Emeritus IV nonchalantly saying in Brisbane that it's his last show? :eek
I know they can't do the same thing over and over, but every Papa has been retired on stage, it just feels off for him to just say "it's my last show". Does this also imply that the Imperatour is over and that there won't be any more legs before the new album cycle?
Let's also remember that they filmed the two Los Angeles shows, for which Tobias has been saying that it's not "just" a normal concert film; could they be that they go all the way with the theatrics, and they organize the departure of Emeritus IV not in front of a live audience, but filmed as it was a movie?
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Tobias probably realizes the potential of the succession being professionally filmed in a different setting. They've done the concert thing already. This will go even more viral. ;D
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So... what's this thing about Papa Emeritus IV nonchalantly saying in Brisbane that it's his last show? :eek
I know they can't do the same thing over and over, but every Papa has been retired on stage, it just feels off for him to just say "it's my last show". Does this also imply that the Imperatour is over and that there won't be any more legs before the new album cycle?
Let's also remember that they filmed the two Los Angeles shows, for which Tobias has been saying that it's not "just" a normal concert film; could they be that they go all the way with the theatrics, and they organize the departure of Emeritus IV not in front of a live audience, but filmed as it was a movie?
Oh that makes sense. I would for sure say he is going to be killed off, retired, whatever Tobias has kicked up in the film itself.
Also hope they release just the concert itself too.
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Yeah, I have to think the LA shows have something to do with the video they are working on and him just saying this instead of showing it on stage. It's likely all tied together to this video and we'll see it sometime next year.
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They've been Grammy nominated again - Best Metal Performance for the cover song "Phantom Of The Opera".
The nominees are:
Disturbed - "Bad Man"
Ghost - "Phantom Of The Opera"
Metallica - "72 Seasons"
Slipknot - "Hive Mind"
Spiritbox - "Jaded"
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Jaded is probably the best song on that list, IMO.
Kind of weird to include this Ghost song as a grammy nomination, being a cover and while I think they do a great job on it, was it even a single?
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Also, it was the most basic cover. There are plenty of covers that are made their own by a band, and there are some cases of covers so popular, that the public doesn't even know it's a cover in the first place. And without going into "legendary covers" territory, let's just look at the EP they put out - Jesus He Knows Me has been made into a very different thing than the original, it has been modernized and "metalized". Phantom of the Opera is just the original song played by the band and sung by Tobias.
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Ghost just posted a short teaser on their social media, ending with "Coming soon to theaters worldwide". It must be the movie Tobias was talking about a while ago.
https://www.revolvermag.com/culture/tobias-forge-confirms-ghost-are-making-movie (https://www.revolvermag.com/culture/tobias-forge-confirms-ghost-are-making-movie)
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I expect it's the concert / movie hybrid where Emeritus IV will meet his demise.