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Title: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on April 04, 2012, 12:23:04 PM
Seeing as we don't have a thread like this, I figured I'd start one. In this thread we can discuss anything that is going on in the car world.

I'd like to start with the newly unveiled Dodge Viper.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2012/04/04/autos/viper-srt-new-york-auto-show/2013-srt-viper.jc.top.jpg)

I think it looks amazing, almost like a Viper, Corvetter, Ferrari hybrid, but I have never really been a fan of the Viper in the past. I'd love to drive one in a straight line as fast as I could, but that's about it. I couldn't find a price, but I'd think it would be in the $90k range. There are many other car's I'd prefer to have that are less expensive.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/04/autos/viper-srt-new-york-auto-show/index.htm

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The Dodge Viper has been out of production since 2010 but Chrysler Group unveiled a new version, powered by a huge 8.4 liter V10 engine, at the New York Auto Show Wednesday.

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Post by: lonestar on April 04, 2012, 01:07:54 PM
That's a sweet looking car.
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Post by: 7StringedBeast on April 04, 2012, 01:08:50 PM
Wow I thought the Viper was completely discontinued.  Pretty sweet.
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Post by: El Barto on April 04, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
It looks like it's got that goofy looking Corvette ass end.  Not a fan.

And in this day and age, I always have to wonder how many distinct steps have to be taken to reel off a fast 0-60 time. 

It's interesting.  I occasionally wonder what kind of car I'd buy if I had unlimited funds, and even if I could afford a new Lamborghini, I think I'd still probably wind up buying a '98 or so M3.  It kind of seems to me like the late '90s are where you reached a pinnacle of having modern, safe and luxurious cars, that were still full blown sports cars at heart.  Everything nowadays is too high-tech for it's own good. 
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Post by: SystematicThought on April 04, 2012, 04:12:58 PM
I went to the DMV today and renewed my tabs. Then they told me I was due for new plates. After that I bought a new frame for my new plates

For some odd reason, I love renewing the tabs

And in regards to El Barto, if I had unlimited funds, I'd buy the new Ford Explorer. Sharp looking vehicle although I like the older models too
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Post by: ReaperKK on April 05, 2012, 09:59:12 AM
Not a bad looking viper, I was able to drive an RT10 a few years back (hrmm more like 7 years ago I think) and while it's a beast, it's a bitch to drive so day to day would be a hassle.

I drove a countach that a neighbor had also a few years ago and that thing was impossible to drive, it looked fantastic tho.

Unlimited funds I'd probably do a brand new M3, I've been debating picking up a used M3 something from the V8 era or a 335i of the same year but I just haven't had the time to drive them. Those are some gorgeous cars tho.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: TempusVox on April 05, 2012, 11:38:18 AM
Seeing as we don't have a thread like this, I figured I'd start one. In this thread we can discuss anything that is going on in the car world.

I'd like to start with the newly unveiled Dodge Viper.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/2012/04/04/autos/viper-srt-new-york-auto-show/2013-srt-viper.jc.top.jpg)

I think it looks amazing, almost like a Viper, Corvetter, Ferrari hybrid, but I have never really been a fan of the Viper in the past. I'd love to drive one in a straight line as fast as I could, but that's about it. I couldn't find a price, but I'd think it would be in the $90k range. There are many other car's I'd prefer to have that are less expensive.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/04/04/autos/viper-srt-new-york-auto-show/index.htm

Quote
The Dodge Viper has been out of production since 2010 but Chrysler Group unveiled a new version, powered by a huge 8.4 liter V10 engine, at the New York Auto Show Wednesday.


I once had sexual relations with a brunette chick named Cherry in her Dodge Viper (this was long before I met my wife). She was stunning. Met her at a conference. A group of us went out afterward with some locals and drove to a sports bar and got hammered. She asked me if I could drive back to the hotel. I was much less hammered than she, and against better judgement, drove her Viper anyway back to my hotel. In the garage, the engine had barley been shut off, when she said to me "My boyfriend doesn't give me what I need", and pulled her dress off, then climbed into my lap. I would have never guessed you could have sex in the drivers seat of a Viper, but we did.  :biggrin: She was really drunk, so what I wound up thinking of mostly about half way through was "Man...this is really an awesome car!" and shortly thereafter "Once she's finished I'm gonna take her into my room and do this the right way."  :biggrin: Ahhh...good times.

Back to cars...I want the new Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4

http://www.aventador.com/
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fuzzboy on April 05, 2012, 01:42:21 PM
Not a bad looking viper, I was able to drive an RT10 a few years back (hrmm more like 7 years ago I think) and while it's a beast, it's a bitch to drive so day to day would be a hassle.

I drove a countach that a neighbor had also a few years ago and that thing was impossible to drive, it looked fantastic tho.

What made the Countach and Viper difficult to drive? I imagine the clutch would be stiff as a brick on both of those.
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Post by: El Barto on April 05, 2012, 01:49:06 PM
I doubt there's a clutch at all on those.  My guess regarding difficulty is that they're overpowered.  I used to drive a friends IROC Z, and without any traction control you'd wind up spitting gravel all over the car behind you without going anywhere.  I didn't driver hers enough to master it, but I suppose you would, and that's where the fun is; learning to keep it at the threshold. 

The other thing is handling.  Most of us are used to FF or FR cars, and once you move all the weight to the back, the handling becomes something completely different than what you expect.  Awesome when you learn to work with it, dangerous as hell for a novice.  As my mechanic is fond of saying, the most dangerous thing you can ever do in a 911 is use the brakes.
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Post by: Fuzzboy on April 05, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
the countach and viper have always been manuals actually. I didn't consider massive amounts of wheelspin though
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Post by: ReaperKK on April 05, 2012, 05:15:39 PM
Not a bad looking viper, I was able to drive an RT10 a few years back (hrmm more like 7 years ago I think) and while it's a beast, it's a bitch to drive so day to day would be a hassle.

I drove a countach that a neighbor had also a few years ago and that thing was impossible to drive, it looked fantastic tho.

What made the Countach and Viper difficult to drive? I imagine the clutch would be stiff as a brick on both of those.

The Viper was hard simply because I just wasn't used to that much power, it was also a little damp from rain so the tires would spin at every opportunity (had slicks on with two small grooves, don't know how those tires were legal). I was 18 at the time and it just overwhelmed the shit out of me. 

The main issue with the countach was shifting gears, it was some serious work and it really caught me off guard how hard the clutch, moving the shifter felt like pushing a block with your hand. No creature comforts which is fine until I realized that the windows were actually little square holes, and this was in Florida during the summer and the countach was black.

If I owned an RT10 I could get used to and use that thing a few times a week. As for the countach, well you'd really have to love that car to be able to drive it day to day IMO.

By comparison driving a 911 was a piece of cake.
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Post by: Fuzzboy on April 06, 2012, 08:10:00 AM
I know Jay Leno had a Countach as a daily driver for a long ass time. don't know how the guy did it.
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Post by: Cable on April 06, 2012, 09:41:50 AM
I do not like this new Viper.

I loved the original 1st generation from 1992 or whatever, then the slight redesign and making it more street drivable (power windows/steering etc.)
I also loved the redesign to 3rd and 4th generation that tamed some of the angles so to speak, but brought back the door exhaust and keeping the near exotic look. I think the C6 Vette highly borrowed design ques from this generation.

This 5th generation looks like the C6 Vette that ripped from the 3rd gen Viper.
Further, if I could buy one, I would NEVER get a hardtop, performance be damned. This car has always looked better as a droptop IMO.

How can a handful of people on this forum actually have driven/owned Vipers, or even driven cars more expensive? Do people here have that much $$$? Owning one of these cars was a pipe dream I gave many many years ago. And to me, owning a drag car is never worth it in the US because of all of the laws and remoteness of strips.

If I get extra money, I will do the off-roading thing...cheaper and more unpredictable, but that is just me I suppose.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 06, 2012, 09:47:53 AM
I didn't own one. At the time I worked as an accountant for a real estate office as a side job while I went to school. The owner's husband owned one and he knew I loved cars so he just let me drive it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on April 10, 2012, 10:30:31 AM
What are all of your thoughts on the new VW Beetle? Personally, I love it. I don't know why. It's not like it's all different than the previous gen. I guess I think it just looks a little more manly. The interior got a seriously sweet overhaul. No more flower vase  :tup

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/12/08-2012-vw-beetle-turbo-review-1323239811-opt.jpg)
(http://image.motortrend.com/f/33899698+w786+ar1/2012-volkswagen-beetle-turbo-front-seats.jpg)
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Post by: Omega on April 10, 2012, 10:38:17 AM
I hate Beetles. Girly.
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Post by: ReaperKK on April 10, 2012, 07:47:27 PM
I think it looks good, soon it'll be one with the 911 again lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on April 21, 2012, 06:51:28 PM
Any thoughts on the 2005 Ford Mustang GT Deluxe?  I'm going for a test drive in an hour.  28k miles, automatic ( :censored) and it's gorgeous. Blue exterior, black interior with blue highlights, leather seats. Asking $16k.

Any serious problems I should be aware of?  I'm not walking away with the car tonight, just wanted to drive it for the heck of it, but with my 99 Mustang V6 at 183k miles, I'm looking for a replacement.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2012, 07:01:36 PM
Any serious problems I should be aware of?
You mean aside from it being a Ford?

I rented a Mustang around 05 or so, and thought it was a pretty lousy car.  Not comfortable and not fast.  I recall thinking the transmission sucked, as well.  I'm sure the GT will be a better car, but still not my bag.  I rented a vert around 08 or so and thought it was a much better car.  Still nothing great, but I certainly didn't hate it like the first one.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on April 21, 2012, 07:14:09 PM
Yeah, I've read reports that the V6 transmission had some issues. Coming from my current car, I think it would be a huge step up.  Any suggestions for similar cars that might get me better bang for my buck?  I wouldn't mind dropping below a 4.0L to save on insurance either.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on April 21, 2012, 07:49:59 PM
Unlimited funds I'd probably do a brand new M3, I've been debating picking up a used M3 something from the V8 era or a 335i of the same year but I just haven't had the time to drive them. Those are some gorgeous cars tho.

I'm looking at getting an E46 right now. My insurance for it is going to be slightly ludicrous...
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on April 21, 2012, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, I've read reports that the V6 transmission had some issues. Coming from my current car, I think it would be a huge step up.  Any suggestions for similar cars that might get me better bang for my buck?  I wouldn't mind dropping below a 4.0L to save on insurance either.
I wouldn't put too much stock in my experience with the car.  Keep in mind it was a low end Mustang I got from Dollar Rent a Car.  Mostly I'm just ragging on it because it's a Ford.  If you're a Mustang kinda guy, don't let me dissuade you. 

There actually do seem to be a lot of people posting about problems with the Mustang tranny, but honestly, you'll see that with any automatic transmission. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on April 21, 2012, 11:26:07 PM
My gfs dad just bought an 05 mustang GT and he loves it.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on April 22, 2012, 12:20:22 AM
Well, I test drove it.

I hate it.  The guy modded it with everything you can think of, cosmetically.  New bumpers, completely redesigned interior.  It looks great actually.  But it drives poorly.  It appeared to be lowered a bit, because the suspension felt stiff and bumpy.  It also confirmed that with any kind of car with decent power, a manual transmission is required.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on May 04, 2012, 05:21:34 PM
My 99 Mustang just bit the bullet.  I had just put a tune on it from American Muscle/BAMA and shortly after loading it (20 miles tops) head gasket blew.  Engine is toast, and they want $3500 to replace it.  Not gonna happen, considering that's how much I paid for the car several years ago. 

I got my motorcycle, so I'm not in a rush to get a new car, but I'll either be buying a used car in cash ($5k tops) or a newer used car from a dealership on a loan.

Any suggestions?  I'd like to have a 4 door since the Mustang had horrible seating room in the back.
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Post by: snapple on May 04, 2012, 05:22:46 PM
Call me old fashioned/hick/back country, but I just want a nice truck. A Ford F-150, but not the fucking feminine ones they're making now.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on May 06, 2012, 11:17:35 AM
I'm considering a 2012 Mazda 3 i Touring with their new Skyactiv engine.  Looks really sweet, and despite it being a compact car, it's got more room (and two more doors) than my Mustang.

(http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2012/01/2012-Mazda3-front-view-623x389.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 07, 2012, 08:53:34 AM
I have a 2004 Mazda 3 hatchback. Other than a well known $1550.00 defect that I had to eat,  I love the car. I just passed 132,000 miles a few days ago and it's still running pretty good.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 07, 2012, 01:47:36 PM
My 99 Mustang just bit the bullet.  I had just put a tune on it from American Muscle/BAMA and shortly after loading it (20 miles tops) head gasket blew.  Engine is toast, and they want $3500 to replace it.  Not gonna happen, considering that's how much I paid for the car several years ago. 

I got my motorcycle, so I'm not in a rush to get a new car, but I'll either be buying a used car in cash ($5k tops) or a newer used car from a dealership on a loan.

Any suggestions?  I'd like to have a 4 door since the Mustang had horrible seating room in the back.
That sounds like dealership prices.  You shouldn't have to pay nearly that much for a head gasket on that car.  Hell, if nothing else you can just buy an engine to put in there.  Those cars are ubiquitous, and every day some stupid kid rolls his 22 times and coughs up a perfectly good engine into the great material continuum. 

If you want a different car, obviously I'm going to recommend a BMW.  $5k can buy you a perfectly nice ride out there. 
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Post by: Hyperplex on May 07, 2012, 01:51:34 PM
(http://media.il.edmunds-media.com/lamborghini/aventador/2011/ns/2011_lamborghini_aventador_f34_ns_30911_717.jpg)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/02/lamborghini-aventador-lp700-4---08-opt.jpg)

Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
700bhp, 690lb-ft of torque
Top speed of 217mph
0-62mph in 2.9 seconds
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Post by: jcmistat on May 07, 2012, 04:58:32 PM
I don't have any interest in cars but I like watching Top Gear. BBC one only.
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Post by: Fiery Winds on May 07, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
My 99 Mustang just bit the bullet.  I had just put a tune on it from American Muscle/BAMA and shortly after loading it (20 miles tops) head gasket blew.  Engine is toast, and they want $3500 to replace it.  Not gonna happen, considering that's how much I paid for the car several years ago. 

I got my motorcycle, so I'm not in a rush to get a new car, but I'll either be buying a used car in cash ($5k tops) or a newer used car from a dealership on a loan.

Any suggestions?  I'd like to have a 4 door since the Mustang had horrible seating room in the back.
That sounds like dealership prices.  You shouldn't have to pay nearly that much for a head gasket on that car.  Hell, if nothing else you can just buy an engine to put in there.  Those cars are ubiquitous, and every day some stupid kid rolls his 22 times and coughs up a perfectly good engine into the great material continuum. 

If you want a different car, obviously I'm going to recommend a BMW.  $5k can buy you a perfectly nice ride out there.

That quote was for parts and labor for a new engine install, not just a head gasket.  While I'm sure I could have gotten by for a bit with an engine flush and a new gasket, the car already had 182k miles and had numerous problems.  12V outlets shorting out, dome light perpetually on (removed bulb as a fix), both headers cracked, etc.  Rather than throw down a bunch of money to put off the inevitable, I figured I'd put the same amount into a new car with a factory warranty. 

I finalized the price for my Mazda 3 this evening as well.  Got it exactly how I want it in color and options.  Negotiated them to $1400 under dealer invoice as well.  They're picking it up from the port and detailing it tomorrow, so it'll be as brand new as it can be.  I'm really excited!  :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MasterShakezula on May 14, 2012, 10:34:26 PM
I drive an 02 Mitsubishi Gallant

How good or bad a car would you people say it is?

Also, I have a question for anyone able to answer:

Why did some of the Japanese companies stop regularly making sports cars like the Supra, Celica, RX-7, GT-3000, MR-2, S-2000, ect? 

It seem like Mitsubishi and Subaru are the only ones that even play up their 'sporty' image anymore, as far as I know. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 14, 2012, 11:36:52 PM
Shake... Look up the RX-8
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Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 12:16:38 AM
I know of the RX-8.

Going to its wiki page, I found out it died out in 2011.

I'm surprised it lasted that long; I thought it had been discontinued years ago.

Wonderful car, I must say.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 15, 2012, 02:02:23 AM
Well shit.. I wonder if they are going to continue the Rotary Engine.

also on an unrelated note... apparently Ford discontinued the Ranger...

I died a little when I read that.   
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Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 02:10:12 AM
Wait, fuel continues to be expensive and they discontine their smallest truck?

Sounds like they've gotten things backwards.
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 15, 2012, 02:54:54 AM
Well.. the market is apparently gone...  in 2011 they sold 55k in the US... compared to the 300k  a year sold in the mid nineties.  Look at Toyota and Nissan... the Tacoma and Frontier have grown from small to mid sized, and the GM compact pickups (s-10 and Sonoma) have been replaced with larger models.
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Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 03:15:36 AM
So it's a case of people in general wanting bigger small trucks?

One would think that consumers would be seeking out small, more fuel-efficient autos, even in the trucks and land-yacht markets.   
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 15, 2012, 06:22:45 AM
I drive an 02 Mitsubishi Gallant

How good or bad a car would you people say it is?

Also, I have a question for anyone able to answer:

Why did some of the Japanese companies stop regularly making sports cars like the Supra, Celica, RX-7, GT-3000, MR-2, S-2000, ect? 

It seem like Mitsubishi and Subaru are the only ones that even play up their 'sporty' image anymore, as far as I know. 

I had a 3000GT for a summer when I was younger and it was both awesome and terrible. Mitsubishi are notorious for valve issues, at least that's what my dad would tell me (he ran three shops and worked on mitsus regularly)

Some Japanese companies still do make sports cars that never make it to the States. As for Mitsubishi I believe they said a while back that they wanted almost their whole lineup to be fuel efficient hybrid cars. I'm upset they killed off the EVO :(
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Post by: MasterShakezula on May 15, 2012, 06:49:19 AM
Killing off the EVO?

That's a shame, right there!

I mean, I understand the value of cheap, small, fuel-efficient autos, but I see no reason why true sports cars shouldn't be offered when people want them.

I mean, for all the criticisms that can be made about sports cars, they're hella more harmless than SUVs.  And all those huge-ass cars of the late 60s and early 70s, there's no way a Lancer or Supra or something like that could be anywhere as awful at M's per G as those dinosaurs!   :P
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 15, 2012, 07:35:58 AM
Yup EVO is gone :sadpanda:

I remember I sold my CBR600 to this that wanted to learn how to ride. She came over in an EVO 11 blonde, just beautiful, I figured it was her boyfriends car.

So she calls me and tells me she'll buy it but she can't ride so she asked if I could ride it to her house which I did. When I got there I talked to her, she was a single 28 year old biomedical engineer who was a bit of a gear head. She owned the EVO as well as an RX-7, and she turned a neon into a beater track car (roll cage, gutted interior). She took me back in the EVO and holy hell what an amazing ride that car was.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 15, 2012, 08:42:38 AM
Well shit.. I wonder if they are going to continue the Rotary Engine.
It'll always exist as a niche market item.  They're still well suited for racing where people can wind them up to 10k.  I suspect a properly tuned racing Wankel would probably still have some power up there.  The commercial versions certainly didn't.  My experience was that the RX7 was a cool car with a needlessly weird engine.  Given the wear and tear on the apex seals, and the need to redline them on a regular basis to burn off carbon deposits, they're just not well suited to Joe Blow.

Mazda will continue to produce them just because the RX8/RENESIS platform is reasonably stable and people like it.  I suspect that if they were to suddenly put a standard piston engine in there, it'd lose it's uniqueness and be the end of the model. 

So it's a case of people in general wanting bigger small trucks?

One would think that consumers would be seeking out small, more fuel-efficient autos, even in the trucks and land-yacht markets.   
Not sure about the rest of the US, but I can tell you that down here in Superficialville, the shitty mileage is the whole point.  The wealthy tree huggers drive Priuses because that's what treehuggers do, and the wealthy conservatives drive H2's and Escallades to show everybody that they don't need to worry about gas prices.  Driving something smaller would suggest that you can't afford a bigger ride.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fuzzboy on May 15, 2012, 12:34:24 PM
Drove an IKA Torino a little while back. what an amazing vehicle.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Torino_TS.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 20, 2012, 06:33:52 PM
Has anybody ever owned or had any experience with Toyota Corollas?

    There's a 2001 Toyota Corolla with 90,000 miles on it which I'm thinking about buying, but I feel kind of weary about the 90,000 miles.

   From what I hear, these cars can go to well over 200,000 miles so I was just curious what you guys thought. They are asking $4900 for it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 20, 2012, 07:14:53 PM
Most of the time it's the previous owners that are more important than the mileage.  A Toyota is pretty much expected to pass 200k by a long shot.  However, that doesn't mean that it'd be trouble free for those miles.  If it's been very well maintained then you should have no concerns about it.  If you don't get the feeling that it's owners have taken good care of it you should pass. 

I don't know what the market is for those things, but $4500 will buy a lot of cars, and I suspect you could do better than a corolla for that much. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: kingshmegland on May 20, 2012, 07:21:49 PM
I've had 2 Corolla's that lasted over 200,000 miles.  The only problem I had in the past is body rot.  My 2008 Corolla doesn't have that problem.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fuzzboy on May 20, 2012, 07:46:01 PM
Has anybody ever owned or had any experience with Toyota Corollas?

    There's a 2001 Toyota Corolla with 90,000 miles on it which I'm thinking about buying, but I feel kind of weary about the 90,000 miles.

   From what I hear, these cars can go to well over 200,000 miles so I was just curious what you guys thought. They are asking $4900 for it.

basically what Barto said. If it's been maintained well, and you plan to do the same, expect it to last that long.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 20, 2012, 07:55:41 PM
Thanks guys.

    I think I may just take some extra time and shop around a bit more. See it any else pops up.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: LCArenas on May 21, 2012, 07:52:38 PM
Anyone has had some experiences with Honda/Acura Integra? There's this guy who's selling a '95 Integra for a reasonable price here. Looks good on the outside but I don't know about the aging of the car. In 3 years it will have 20!
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: SystematicThought on May 21, 2012, 08:06:44 PM
What kind of windshield wipers do you guys use on your car? I have Bosch Icon blades on in conjunction with some Rain-X Rain Repellent which actually works well
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 21, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
What kind of windshield wipers do you guys use on your car? I have Bosch Icon blades on in conjunction with some Rain-X Rain Repellent which actually works well
Cheapest ones possible.  New blades work great no matter what the brand is, and 12 month old blades suck no matter what the brand is.  Better off buying three pairs of the Autozone wipers for less than a pair of Bosch. 

Rain X is great, if I can ever remember to apply it BEFORE IT RAINS.


Anyone has had some experiences with Honda/Acura Integra? There's this guy who's selling a '95 Integra for a reasonable price here. Looks good on the outside but I don't know about the aging of the car. In 3 years it will have 20!
Same answer as Phoenix's Corolla.  Depends on the previous owners.  I will say that 20's getting on up there for a car.  However, if it's a good car it's still fine.  I think my E30 was 22 when I retired it, but it really was about a corpse at that point.  What you have to keep in mind when dealing with old cars is that motors can last decades.  Any modern engine that's reasonably well maintained should get 2-300k pretty easily.  The rest of the car really starts to decline before then, though.  I'd probably still be driving that E30 except for a ton of little things started to catch up to it.  Seats were shot.  Paint was shot.  Half the dashboard didn't work.  Exhaust system was pretty much gone.  Rather than being undrivable it was just unpleasant and, more annoyingly uninspectable. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 26, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
Might be picking up a 93 Stang next week for $2k.  Woot woot
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Post by: ddtonfire on May 26, 2012, 07:25:45 AM
Just got an E46 M3. She's a beast. 
:xbones
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 26, 2012, 09:08:05 AM
Just got an E46 M3. She's a beast. 
:xbones
Does it have a clutch that you operate?
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Post by: ddtonfire on May 26, 2012, 09:13:20 AM
Most definitely!
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Post by: El Barto on May 26, 2012, 09:27:50 AM
WTG.  True manuals are becoming scarce in American BMW's. 
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Post by: ReaperKK on May 26, 2012, 10:56:45 AM
Just got an E46 M3. She's a beast. 
:xbones

PICS!
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Post by: ddtonfire on May 26, 2012, 02:21:07 PM
Thanks! Yeah, it's kind of sad. Mostly in the name of emissions, too, right?

I'll probably take more pics the next time I give it a good wash:

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/ddtonfire/DSC01028.jpg)
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Post by: El Barto on May 26, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
I don't think emissions are a factor.  Americans just aren't interested in spirited driving anymore.  BMW's in particular have adapted to that.  Recall that 25 years ago they wouldn't even put cup holders in their cars because people should be driving and not drinking coffee.  Now they're mostly importing luxury cars and pseudo-sports cars for poseurs. 
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Post by: JayOctavarium on May 26, 2012, 06:26:27 PM
I came
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Post by: ddtonfire on May 26, 2012, 07:39:56 PM
 :lol

You should see the inside. Put it in sport mode and every time I press down on the pedal...

(http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/images/1310650820313.jpg)
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Post by: Fuzzboy on May 27, 2012, 09:04:16 PM
What does sport mode do in a manual car? Tighten up throttle response?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 27, 2012, 09:19:21 PM
It tinkers with the traction control, which has several modes, and it also adjusts the throttle mapping.  Rather than being a direct 1 to 1 ratio between pedal travel and engine acceleration, like older cars,  the pedal is mapped with an acceleration curve.  This is to make it easier to drive about town without peeling out at every light.  Sport mode undoes that mapping and gives you a (logically) more direct link to the accelerator.  Pedal equals go!

Graphs be here: http://forum.roadfly.com/threads/5972501-M3-sport-normal-throttle-mapping-pics-inside!

BTW, I had to research this too, as I asked the exact same question.
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Post by: ddtonfire on May 28, 2012, 07:50:00 AM
Neat, thanks for that! It makes a lot more sense now.
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Post by: El Barto on May 28, 2012, 09:51:39 AM
Neat, thanks for that! It makes a lot more sense now.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1356858
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: nightmare_cinema on May 28, 2012, 11:51:49 PM
My car is dead, it won't make it past its next MOT, so I need a new one. Got no cash though so got my eye on a £800 little Nissan Micra, 40k miles on the clock and immaculate condition as it was owned by an old lady who died, in the meantime my friend is lending me his Mazda TS2 (how amazing is he?!) as I really DO need a car (I'm a pizza delivery person for one job, and the other requires either a 20 mile commute or £7 a day public transport).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 11, 2012, 01:54:37 PM
When buying a car from a dealer (a used car in this case) how much can they typically wiggle on the price? 

    The sticker price on the car is $5700 and I would like to talk him down to like $5400. Is $300 off too much to ask for?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 11, 2012, 02:36:38 PM
When buying a car from a dealer (a used car in this case) how much can they typically wiggle on the price? 

    The sticker price on the car is $5700 and I would like to talk him down to like $5400. Is $300 off too much to ask for?

No that's perfectly reasonable. Don't be afraid to walk away, when buying my golf I shot $1200 below sticker (it was a used price). Walked out, got a call 3 hours later and he sold it.


My car is dead, it won't make it past its next MOT, so I need a new one. Got no cash though so got my eye on a £800 little Nissan Micra, 40k miles on the clock and immaculate condition as it was owned by an old lady who died, in the meantime my friend is lending me his Mazda TS2 (how amazing is he?!) as I really DO need a car (I'm a pizza delivery person for one job, and the other requires either a 20 mile commute or £7 a day public transport).

Every time I visit the UK (going again in July w00t!) I'm blown away at how cheap good cars are. We need MOT over in Florida.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 12, 2012, 08:21:31 AM
When buying a car from a dealer (a used car in this case) how much can they typically wiggle on the price? 

    The sticker price on the car is $5700 and I would like to talk him down to like $5400. Is $300 off too much to ask for?

No that's perfectly reasonable. Don't be afraid to walk away, when buying my golf I shot $1200 below sticker (it was a used price). Walked out, got a call 3 hours later and he sold it.
Yeah, walking away from a salesman scares the bejeezus out of them.  Their powers from from always being the person in control.  If they think they're in charge and you suddenly get up and start walking out, it's a real shot to the kidneys. 

Anytime this comes up I post this:  http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/confessions-of-a-car-salesman.html
It was a series from Edmunds, where one of their writers went undercover working at two different car lots over a six month period.  He tells you all the tricks, and it's an amazingly useful read.  I think the four-square is a thing of the past, with that fair credit law and all, but it's still great intel.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on June 13, 2012, 10:37:45 AM
@ Barto as you seem to be the resident mechanic

My Ford Windstar (2003) last year of production has been giving me some early signs the transmission might be going

was driving on the highway when the tranny light came on and the car seem to lose most of its power....pulled over turned the car of and turned it back over and it ran fine (this only happened once about 4 months ago) but since than I've noticed it runs alittle rough when I start it up in the morning, also recently when putting the car into reverse to back out , I notice a squealling noise and its seems to run rough, entire car kinds of shimmy's . Again this is only after a cold start in the morning, once the car has been running foir awhile I don't seem to have this issue

Looking a multiple forums seems the windstar tranny is a major problem once the car goes over 100k (mine currently has 120K) on it .

Don't have a mechanic I can trust to not drag me over the coals and don't want to take it to Ford because everytime I do they find problems other than the one I brought it in for

Any ideas/suggestions

PS I am mechanically inept 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 13, 2012, 11:09:35 AM
My guess is that you're looking at a couple of different issues.  Modern automatic transmissions have pretty nifty trick, which is that when they detect some sort of fault they go into what's known as limp mode.  I suspect each manufacturer is different, but in the case of my BMW (which incidentally might have the same tranny as your Ford), it'll lock the car into it's highest gear.  This is to keep the RPMs low to prevent any damage.  When that happens, you accelerate about as fast a 1972 Ford school bus.  It feels like you have no power, but it's really just that the car is trying to start off in 5th gear.  When you turn the car off for a minute or so, it'll reset and until that fault pops up again, all is well.  Limp mode is designed to, as the name implies, allow you to drive very slowly to the mechanic so he can charge you $3k for a new tranny.  If it's only happened once in 4 months, I wouldn't be worried.  If it becomes more frequent, then you might have an issue.

As for the rough running, that could be any number of things.  It's also probably what caused the tranny fault that you experienced.  It could also be completely unrelated.  If you think about it, once your car suggests that there's a very expensive transmission problem looming, you pay much more attention to everything that's going on.  The roughness might have been there for a while, or more likely had been getting worse gradually enough that you hadn't noticed until you got worried about the car.

The good news is that any competent mechanic can plug a laptop into your dashboard and tell you pretty quickly what's going on with the engine.  I can name a dozen different things that are cheap and easy that could cause it, so there's no reason to be worried.  Just get online and fine somebody reputable, then let him ask the car what's going on. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 13, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
When buying a car from a dealer (a used car in this case) how much can they typically wiggle on the price? 

    The sticker price on the car is $5700 and I would like to talk him down to like $5400. Is $300 off too much to ask for?

No that's perfectly reasonable. Don't be afraid to walk away, when buying my golf I shot $1200 below sticker (it was a used price). Walked out, got a call 3 hours later and he sold it.
Yeah, walking away from a salesman scares the bejeezus out of them.  Their powers from from always being the person in control.  If they think they're in charge and you suddenly get up and start walking out, it's a real shot to the kidneys. 

Anytime this comes up I post this:  http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/confessions-of-a-car-salesman.html
It was a series from Edmunds, where one of their writers went undercover working at two different car lots over a six month period.  He tells you all the tricks, and it's an amazingly useful read.  I think the four-square is a thing of the past, with that fair credit law and all, but it's still great intel.

Now that was nothing short of fascinating. I feel like I just got a lesson in human psychology.

     I wonder If I subtlety drop some of the secret vocab words during the discussion, how the dealer would react. I might just do it for the hell of it.

Its pretty much just as insane as I expected and now I don't feel as intimidated about their Casino-esque "we win, you lose" methodology. I feel like I have the other team's playbook. 
   
   In the end, the article re-confirmed what I already knew and that is that I could never be a salesman or businessman.

 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on June 13, 2012, 11:25:56 AM
thanks   will start asking neighbors and such if they could recommend a fair mechanic
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 22, 2012, 08:58:06 AM
If you trade a car into a dealership, do you have to bring the title with you?
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Post by: Fiery Winds on June 22, 2012, 09:45:39 AM
If you trade a car into a dealership, do you have to bring the title with you?

Yup.
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Post by: Implode on June 22, 2012, 11:06:35 AM
I got a new car. I feel so spoiled.  :blush
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Post by: JayOctavarium on June 22, 2012, 01:27:25 PM
Anyone know anything about replacing the top on a 96 mustang convertible? lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 22, 2012, 03:35:57 PM
When buying a car from a dealer (a used car in this case) how much can they typically wiggle on the price? 

    The sticker price on the car is $5700 and I would like to talk him down to like $5400. Is $300 off too much to ask for?

No that's perfectly reasonable. Don't be afraid to walk away, when buying my golf I shot $1200 below sticker (it was a used price). Walked out, got a call 3 hours later and he sold it.
Yeah, walking away from a salesman scares the bejeezus out of them.  Their powers from from always being the person in control.  If they think they're in charge and you suddenly get up and start walking out, it's a real shot to the kidneys. 

Anytime this comes up I post this:  http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/confessions-of-a-car-salesman.html
It was a series from Edmunds, where one of their writers went undercover working at two different car lots over a six month period.  He tells you all the tricks, and it's an amazingly useful read.  I think the four-square is a thing of the past, with that fair credit law and all, but it's still great intel.

I was thinking of this article a while back but didn't search for it. It really is a great read.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 22, 2012, 04:24:01 PM
I got a new car. I feel so spoiled.  :blush
New new car or new to you?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 27, 2012, 05:32:41 PM
Well shit.. I wonder if they are going to continue the Rotary Engine.
It'll always exist as a niche market item.  They're still well suited for racing where people can wind them up to 10k.  I suspect a properly tuned racing Wankel would probably still have some power up there.  The commercial versions certainly didn't.  My experience was that the RX7 was a cool car with a needlessly weird engine.  Given the wear and tear on the apex seals, and the need to redline them on a regular basis to burn off carbon deposits, they're just not well suited to Joe Blow.

Mazda will continue to produce them just because the RX8/RENESIS platform is reasonably stable and people like it.  I suspect that if they were to suddenly put a standard piston engine in there, it'd lose it's uniqueness and be the end of the model. 

Oops:
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/06/26/mazda-ends-production-rotary-engine/?intcmp=obinsite
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The rotary engine is officially dead. For now.

Bloomberg reports that Mazda built the last of its unique powerplants last Friday, ending a 45-year run.

The automaker announced last year that it would be discontinuing the engine, citing high costs, low sales and environmental concerns. It got a stay of execution earlier this year when Mazda extended production if the RX-8 sports car with a run of 1,000 special edition Spirit-R models celebrating the engine.

Although it delivers a large amount of power from a compact, lightweight unit compared to a piston engine, the rotary design is notorious for its low fuel economy and high oil consumption, both factors making it difficult to meet todayís strict emissions standards.

Read: Is the handbrake grappling with extinction?

First introduced in the 1967 Cosmo Sport, Mazda produced nearly 2 million cars powered by rotary engines over the years, technology that it licensed from Audi in 1961. Its turbine-smooth operation prized by many enthusiasts.

The high water mark for the engine was victory in the 1991 running of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, still the only win by a Japanese automaker.

But just because the rotary is dead, doesnít mean it canít come back to lifeÖwith a jolt of electricity.

Mazda is continuing development of the engine design with an eye on possibly using it as a range-extender for plug-in hybrid vehicles, similar to the Chevrolet Volt. It has previously shown a prototype of such a car that uses a rotary converted to run on hydrogen to generate electricity.

Perhaps one day the companyís slogan will be changed to Humm Humm, Buzz Buzz, Zoom Zoom.

Using them to augment batteries is actually a pretty good idea.  They're smaller, lighter, more reliable and smoother running than piston engines.

Also, they still have a place in most areas outside of consumer automobiles.  They're good for racing and their reliability makes them well suited for aircraft engines. I believe they're also used in boats and motorcycles. 
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Post by: Fuzzboy on June 27, 2012, 05:49:07 PM
I'd like to drive something with a rotary someday. I can't even comprehend revving an engine to 9k+


Anyone know anything about replacing the top on a 96 mustang convertible? lol

No idea, but I'm sure if you browse through some Mustang forums you'd find something. you might even find a youtube tutorial or something. Stuff like this is why I'm so glad I had internet by the time I was old enough to own a car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Implode on June 27, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
I got a new car. I feel so spoiled.  :blush
New new car or new to you?

Both. I'm going to end up paying for most of it, but I still know I'm really lucky. It's a Subaru Impreza hatchback.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 27, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
I'd like to drive something with a rotary someday. I can't even comprehend revving an engine to 9k+
It honestly doesn't really seem any different than any other car.  Plus, the power band is such that up around the redline you really don't get any power out of it.  It's more for being able to hit the next gear at a higher RPM.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fuzzboy on June 27, 2012, 09:38:32 PM
oh, i thought it would be... cooler than that.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 27, 2012, 11:00:54 PM
I run my BMW up to the redline all the time.  When I owned an RX7 I very rarely hit red.   For one thing the power had started to drop off well before it, and also, it's kind of ingrained in us to shift when it gets whining that high.  I knew the car could do it just fine, but it's still a pretty unnatural thing to let happen. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fuzzboy on June 27, 2012, 11:24:39 PM
Yeah i had the opposite problem when I was driving a Renault diesel and I'd rev it much higher than i needed to. It's kinda cool on the freeway though, as I didn't need to change down to pass anyone cause there was plenty of power around 1.5k-2k
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on June 27, 2012, 11:30:33 PM
I run my BMW up to the redline all the time.  When I owned an RX7 I very rarely hit red.   For one thing the power had started to drop off well before it, and also, it's kind of ingrained in us to shift when it gets whining that high.  I knew the car could do it just fine, but it's still a pretty unnatural thing to let happen.

Similar effect when I started riding my motorcycle.  Redline is 14k and it sounded like it was going to blow up at 8k.  Took me a while to get used to the whine, but was glad when I did since 8k is when the power really kicks in.    :yarr
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on July 14, 2012, 03:59:10 PM
My friend pulled on my door handle while I was unlocking the car and now the door won't open from the outside. I know it's something to do with the linkage or something, though I have no idea what a door interior looks like. I called a local shop (apparently one that doesn't have the greatest reputation) and asked them how much to pop off the door panels. He said "Six ninety five."
"Six... dollars?"
"No, six hundred."

I laughed my way off the phone. Surely that's not a good price for something that trivial?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2012, 04:13:51 PM
Keep calling other places.  Find somebody that specializes in your brand of car, and they should charge you an hour of labor.  My only guess about the guy you called was that he just didn't want to dick with it.  That's a scare somebody away quote, since there's no way he was expecting it to take 8 hours. 

I called a shop (with an excellent reputation) a while back because my alternator had given out two blocks from their locale.  I asked how much to replace the alternator if I got my car up there and he said "aw shit, I dunno!"  He proceeded to explain how he'd need three hours to diagnose my electrical problem, before he could tell me how much it'd be.  "But I'm already telling you it's my alternator!  Can you just find out what that'd cost?"  "Nope.  Three hours."  Yeah, great, fuck you very much. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on July 14, 2012, 04:37:01 PM
A database (by Car Talk listeners) of local mechanics that they recommend): http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechanics-files (http://www.cartalk.com/content/mechanics-files)

As for me, I have to replace my front hub assemblies, and since I don't have the tools necessary, i'll have to take it to a shop (I called around and was getting quotes anywhere from $500 to $750) :|
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 05, 2012, 04:37:49 PM
So I just bought a car today. Its a 98 Toyota corolla to replace my 92 Camaro.

My question is about keeping the Camaro insured. A for sale sign is going on it tomorrow and I will no longer be driving it, but do I still need to keep it insured to do test drives?

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 05, 2012, 05:01:17 PM
Yes.  You generally want liability on anything you own that's going to be exposed to the public.  As for collision/theft, ect., I'd ask my insurance provider about that one.  They might say hell yeah, and they might tell you they won't cover it anyway, so don't bother. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 05, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
Thanks, that's pretty much what I was thinking as well. hopefully I can sell this thing in the next month or two.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 20, 2012, 05:53:45 PM
Ok so I have a question about selling a car privately.

1. When someone comes to test drive the car should I check and see if they have car insurance or are they covered under my plan.

and

2. What is the best way for them to pay. Can I take a check or should I ask for cash?

Any other tips and suggestions would be very appreciated as well. 

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on September 20, 2012, 06:08:20 PM
Ok so I have a question about selling a car privately.

1. When someone comes to test drive the car should I check and see if they have car insurance or are they covered under my plan.

and

2. What is the best way for them to pay. Can I take a check or should I ask for cash?

Any other tips and suggestions would be very appreciated as well.

1. I think that depends on each policy separately.

2. Always accept cash. Just make sure it's real. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 20, 2012, 06:48:46 PM
Cash or cashier's check.  I've always used the latter when I bought cars.  As for insurance, ask your insurance agent.  They're the only ones who can give you sound advice. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 20, 2012, 06:52:18 PM
Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 21, 2012, 10:12:51 PM
This should be the "Ask El Barto Thread"

Anyway... I've got a grinding noise from my front driver's side wheel when I turn right. The following have been suggested to me:

1. Bearing
2. Hub
3. CV joint

How much are all of those as far as parts and labor?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on September 21, 2012, 10:18:17 PM
This should be the "Ask El Barto Thread"

Anyway... I've got a grinding noise from my front driver's side wheel when I turn right. The following have been suggested to me:

1. Bearing
2. Hub
3. CV joint

How much are all of those as far as parts and labor?

I had that happen on a car I used to have.  It was the CV joint, but had to replace the whole axle.  That cost about $100, but me and a few guys worked on it ourselves.  It took a few hours (didn't have the right tools), but we were able to replace it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 21, 2012, 11:52:27 PM
So if I had a mechanic replace the axle, I'd be looking at the neighborhood of two to three hundred ish?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 22, 2012, 04:33:44 AM
This should be the "Ask El Barto Thread"

This
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on September 22, 2012, 06:02:25 AM
So if I had a mechanic replace the axle, I'd be looking at the neighborhood of two to three hundred ish?

It might be more like 300 to 400 hundred, but it shouldn't be a terribly expensive repair.  The total cost will depend on how hard it is rto remove and replace the axle on your car.  Mine was on a cavalier and fairly easy.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 22, 2012, 10:29:49 AM
This should be the "Ask El Barto Thread"

Anyway... I've got a grinding noise from my front driver's side wheel when I turn right. The following have been suggested to me:

1. Bearing
2. Hub
3. CV joint

How much are all of those as far as parts and labor?
I've never actually had a car with a CV joint, so I have zero experience with them.  However brakes and wheel bearings aren't bad at all.  I replaced the front brakes in my car last weekend.  The big question is, does the grinding happen when you're braking or all the time?  What I can tell you is that wheel bearings don't generally grind, they whine, and it's usually constant.  If it's a brake disk, it'll only grind when you're braking and you'll actually feel it in the pedal. 

If it's just the brakes, I recommend learning to do it yourself.  Brake jobs are one of the few things I actually enjoy doing.  It's all mechanical and while it does require some muscle work, it's pretty rewarding.  It's also nice to know that it was done right, what with them being your brakes and all.  You'll have to replace the disks, which will run you about $35 each, and install new pads which are $40-$80 a set, depending on quality.  If it's your first time changing brakes, expect to spend 2 hours on the first wheel, and about 30 minutes on the second (it's all learning time). 

If it's your wheel bearings, you'll have to remove all the brake components to get the old ones off.  Therefore, unless the brakes are fairly new, you'd generally replace them as well. Same cost as above, plus add 30 minutes per wheel for the bearings.

If you take it to a mechanic, he'll probably charge 2 hours labor for the brake job, plus the aforementioned parts.  Probably another .5 to 1 hour for the bearings, depending on whether they're pre-packed or not.  Sounds to me like a three to five hundred dollar job. 

What I'd recommend is jacking up one corner at a time for a quick inspection.  If you know what's wrong, then you can get better info from a mechanic without just taking his word on it.  Jack it up, CHOCK THE REAL WHEELS, put it in N and spin the wheel.  Does it make any noise? Does it spin smoothly?  Then take the wheel off.  You'll be able to see the brake disk.  Is it smooth and shiny or scarred and pitted?  You'll have to feel around for the backside of the disks.  Brakes wear unevenly, so only one side of one disk will be chewed up, so you'll need to inspect all four to find one that's bad.

Here's what you're looking for.  The inside is normal wear and tear and probably wouldn't be causing any problems, and the outer 1 inch or so is scarred all to hell.  That's what was grinding.  http://www.transmissionrepairirving.com/images/worn_rotor.jpg

As for the CV, if that's what it is, get it fixed now.  The only thing I know is that a CV joint failure is really bad news. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on September 25, 2012, 12:51:04 PM
I absolutely love Tesla and everything it is trying to do!

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/gigaom/articles/cleantech_tesla_unveils_free_solar_powered_car_charging_stations_for_model_s_owners.html?iid=HP_River

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Electric car maker Tesla announced on Monday night that it has installed its ďSuperchargerĒ rapid car charging network at an initial six locations throughout California and Tesla says charging at these stations will be free ďindefinitelyĒ for Model S owners. Tesla says the Superchargers will be powered by solar technology, developed by solar installer SolarCity

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Musk called the Supercharger ďthe answer to the three major problems holding back electric vehiclesĒ in his remarks during the event. These problems are being able to drive electric vehicles long distances conveniently, the issue of electricity being generated at a distant fossil fuel power plant, and the issue of cost of electricity.

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The Superchargers can charge the Model S cars with 100 kilowatts of power and provide three hours of driving at 60 mph in about half an hour. Who wants to take me on a Model S road trip down to LA?

That is pretty damn impressive if you ask me.

The Tesla Model S is such a nice looking vehicle.
(http://addins.waow.com/blogs/weather/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Tesla-Model-S.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on September 25, 2012, 01:54:02 PM
I work right across the freeway from where they're building those cars.  My company also supplies PV Inverters to SolarCity (though our inverters probably won't be used for this project). 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 25, 2012, 08:04:35 PM
Check engine light just came on, guy at the auto store said the code is for a bad crankshaft sensor. The car seems to run fine at the moment. Will I be okay driving it a week or so until I can get it replaced?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on September 25, 2012, 08:06:31 PM
Check engine light just came on, guy at the auto store said the code is for a bad crankshaft sensor. The car seems to run fine at the moment. Will I be okay driving it a week or so until I can get it replaced?

If all it is is a sensor, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 25, 2012, 08:11:16 PM
Check engine light just came on, guy at the auto store said the code is for a bad crankshaft sensor. The car seems to run fine at the moment. Will I be okay driving it a week or so until I can get it replaced?

If all it is is a sensor, you'll be fine.
What's the likelihood of that, considering nothing sounds 'funny' or 'out of place?' Good?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: yorost on September 25, 2012, 08:16:32 PM
Check engine light just came on, guy at the auto store said the code is for a bad crankshaft sensor. The car seems to run fine at the moment. Will I be okay driving it a week or so until I can get it replaced?

If all it is is a sensor, you'll be fine.
What's the likelihood of that, considering nothing sounds 'funny' or 'out of place?' Good?
Search your make and model plus your problem.  You'll probably find car forums with a board dedicated to it, you're not going to get a good answer here on the likelihood of a meaningless check engine light.  My car has a common problem with a faulty check engine light that goes with one other faulty light turning on, all I need to do is reset the computer module and it goes away.  It pops up every year or two, but if you don't read about common problems of your car you can spend lots of money chasing phantoms like that.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 25, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Check engine light just came on, guy at the auto store said the code is for a bad crankshaft sensor. The car seems to run fine at the moment. Will I be okay driving it a week or so until I can get it replaced?

If all it is is a sensor, you'll be fine.
What's the likelihood of that, considering nothing sounds 'funny' or 'out of place?' Good?
The crankshaft position sensor tells the computer that runs your engine how fast the motor's turning and what the position of the valves is.  With a faulty sensor the ECU gets bad info, and the engine doesn't run as well as it should.  If it's bad, and I have no reason to doubt the guy who pulled the code, then your car probably got a slight misfire, and might be hesitating under acceleration.  Both of which you might not notice if you're not looking for them.  Oh, and you'll probably notice a decrease in your mileage.  Regardless, get it fixed when you can, but don't panic over it.  Just don't turn out in front of somebody expecting to floor it and accelerate out of their way. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on September 25, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
The sensor's 30 bucks. What's the labor cost on that kind of thing? If it makes a difference, the engine is the GM 3800 Series II in a 98 Park Avenue.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 25, 2012, 08:35:45 PM
Not sure.  My guess is that in replacing that, they're going to expose a couple of other things that people like to replace at common intervals.  In my car, you don't replace the timing belt without also replacing the water pump (and vice versa) for example.  My guess is that the CPS is in the same area, so they might want to replace the water pump (cheap), and if your car has a timing belt, that as well.  My guess is two hours labor, but that really is just a guess. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Tunnel Vision on September 25, 2012, 09:18:41 PM
My father is the president of a mustang/ford club in central PA. (He owns the Grabber Orange mustang in the 2nd and 3rd pics.)
Here are some pics from cruises recently:
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/558508_10151159994803544_1090614507_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/292951_10151159994558544_2146339054_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558318_10151166872923544_1425767929_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/576936_10151166868088544_1098504463_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on September 26, 2012, 08:27:55 AM
Here goes....

2003 Ford Windstar   115,000  miles

When I start the car it turns over fine, but when I shift into reverse it sounds like I have a big diesel engine. The noise continues after shifting into drive , but once the car gets moving 20 mph or more,  sound stops . I have noticed a loss of acceleration when going uphill or trying to pass on the highway. Every car forums seems to point at the transmission as going (and this particular model has a history of transmission failure at about 120,000 miles. I don't have a rainy day fund for repairs and a transmission job will likely run ($1200-$2000 my guestimate) the car only has a bluebook value listed as $3300 to $3700 according to Kelleys.

Can anyone else (barto) think of something it might be other than the tranny?


Only asking this again as my experience in the past  I've had mechanics actually cease my car (NJ law) if they determine the car is unsafe to drive....so its not as easy as taking it to multiple mechanics for their opinions

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 26, 2012, 09:03:12 AM
Reminds me of the tire salesman telling Homer that he couldn't legally allow him to drive away without 4 new tires.   :lol

I believe we've already covered your transmission.  The noise is just a noise.  Yes, your transmission is probably failing, but there's nothing you can do about it and it still drives.  As for the loss of power, two possibilities.  It could be unrelated to the tranny.  Tons of things will cause a power loss under load.  Other option is that the tranny has gone into limp mode. When the computer detects an issue, it goes into a failsafe mode (limping home).  This usually locks it into 3rd or 4th gear.  Stuck in 4th, you'll have awful acceleration. 

As for finance, my suggestion would be to drive it until it explodes all over the interstate, then buy another car.  If you need a stop-gap option because it fails before you can upgrade, you can always by a junkyard transmission for about $500.  The cost for tranny jobs is almost entirely the insane cost of rebuilding an old unit.  Better to just buy one that didn't fail in the first place.  It's a crapshoot since you have no idea what condition it is, but it'll be guaranteed to work at first.  Usually they'll be fine.  They'll come from a car that was rear-ended, or better still, totaled because of hail damage or something.  They'll also have less than 75k on them.  Likelihood is that you'll get more years out of it than the rest of your car. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on December 11, 2012, 04:57:41 PM
Droooooooooooooooooooooooooool.

http://www.lsxtv.com/news/video-modern-sting-ray-brings-performance-and-classic-styling/

(http://speednik.com/files/2012/11/modern_sting_ray_video_4.jpg)


Also......

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FoXyvaPSnVk/Su8uTbgPrwI/AAAAAAACNW0/Sw_XfKpFjdo/s800/Lingenfelter-Pontiac-455-TA-001..jpg)
(http://cdn.speednik.com/files/2012/07/trans_am_depot_documentary_4.jpg)
(http://media.soletron.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Goat6T9-e1310700719521.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 11, 2012, 05:26:17 PM
If I had the cash, I would buy that Smokey in the Bandit modded Camaro in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on December 12, 2012, 05:48:59 AM
The stingray is pretty nice but the rest is meh.

Damn I wish I made it to the auto show this past weekend :(
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MetalJunkie on December 12, 2012, 06:34:44 AM
I drive a 98 Park Avenue and the A/C is like a home thermostat. I pick a temperature and it blows hot or cold air until said temperature is reached. Anyone know if I can change this and just choose to blow warm or cold air until I feel like it? I'd rather not set it at 90 and let it go to town.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on December 12, 2012, 07:04:31 AM
I drive a 98 Park Avenue and the A/C is like a home thermostat. I pick a temperature and it blows hot or cold air until said temperature is reached. Anyone know if I can change this and just choose to blow warm or cold air until I feel like it? I'd rather not set it at 90 and let it go to town.

Most cars have a button that says 'auto'. If you have that, turn it off.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on March 06, 2013, 04:02:06 PM
Shown to the public a few days ago at an auto-show.

MINI John Cooper Works Countryman ALL4 Dakar Winner Edition

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/421855_10151333243803511_1292673893_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/529765_10151333246728511_833948520_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/577895_10151333244783511_1538042864_n.jpg)

I want this NOW. The flat finish is pure sex.



The new John Copper Works Paceman is pretty awesome too.
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184407_10151227071993511_662663152_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431251_10151227072593511_928306543_n.jpg)

The John Cooper Works GP edition hardtop is also pretty cool.
(http://media.caranddriver.com/images/12q2/450432/2013-mini-john-cooper-works-gp-hatchback-photos-and-info-news-car-and-driver-photo-455732-s-429x262.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 16, 2013, 10:50:12 AM
I have a question about car insurance. And bear with me, because I've always just kind of payed it without really thinking about all the logistics.

I'm 25 and have never had an accident. I drive a 98  4-cylinder Toyota corolla and my monthly insurance bill is $86.

 Does that sound about right or is this higher then normal. What do you guys typically pay a month?

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on March 18, 2013, 12:19:30 PM
I drive a fully insured 2001 VW golf, I'm 26 and I only $67 a month. Fairly cheap insurance, my motorcycle insurance is much more.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 18, 2013, 12:25:24 PM
I drive a fully insured 2001 VW golf, I'm 26 and I only $67 a month. Fairly cheap insurance, my motorcycle insurance is much more.

I'm actually glad you brought that up. How much is the insurance on the R6?

The quote I got for the SV650 was like $14 bucks a month so I was curious how much higher a super sport would be.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on March 18, 2013, 12:27:51 PM
I'm 24 driving a fully covered 2013 Mini Cooper (non-turbo). I had a reckless driving charge of 122mph when I was 18, and received a failure to obey a sign at 21. I had my first accident last September and my car was totaled. It wasn't my fault though. I was parked at the bottom of an off-ramp and a guy's brakes failed on his pickup truck. I pay $118ish a month with a $1000 deductible.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 18, 2013, 12:28:16 PM
It varies a lot by location. Living in a big city could easily add that $20/month. Off the top of my head, if that $86 is for a good policy with collision and a perk or two, that's about right. If it's just for the minimum required liability, you're getting hosed.

Something I recommend to everybody, find an agent you like, and who likes you. Insurance reps are one of those deals where a lifelong relationship is a damn fine thing. When I was 23, driving a sports car and racking up tickets weekly, most insurance agents would laugh at me. One guy recognized that I had 50 years of driving ahead of me and wanted to earn some loyalty, which he did in spades. I was heartbroken when he finally retired a few years ago. He'd go out of his way to look for discounts for me.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on March 18, 2013, 03:33:35 PM
I'm 21 and pay like $60/month for I'm pretty sure minimum on a 88 Olds Cutlass Ciera... I have 1 total which came out to no fault (if that's what it's called? They couldn't determine who as at fault)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on March 20, 2013, 09:56:34 AM
@ Barto.....I have a clean driving record for 25+ years and still pay $96 a month for the bare minimum state requirement here in NJ ( No Collision/No theft..just liability) Just had to add my 18 year old son and my annual premium jumped to $2800 for just the bare minimum..In NJ he has multiple things against him ( he's male...females are given a cheaper rate as the are deemed not as agressive and his age, he will be considered an at rick drive until he reaches 25 here in NJ)   Just think in another 18 months I get to add another son to my policy.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on March 21, 2013, 06:39:30 AM
I drive a fully insured 2001 VW golf, I'm 26 and I only $67 a month. Fairly cheap insurance, my motorcycle insurance is much more.

I'm actually glad you brought that up. How much is the insurance on the R6?

The quote I got for the SV650 was like $14 bucks a month so I was curious how much higher a super sport would be.

Full coverage (including $500,000 medical coverage) with $500 deductible on my 08 R6 is $124 a month. Not bad but again I'm 26 years old so I'm past the 25 mark, when I was younger and riding I was paying closer to $170 on my 94 CBR 600

So it's not crazy much but the medical coverage really kicks it up a notch. I don't want to be forever in debt if anything happens tho.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Aythesryche on March 21, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Mitsubishi Evo I got myself for Christmas already has 22,000 miles on it, I'm probably going to get rid of it this month or next. It's a very fun car and is a lot of fun on dirt roads. I still think the Mitsubishi Evo 5 I owned when living in Japan was more fun to drive though. Plus it had the steeringwheel on the proper side. The RIGHT side! :laugh: I think out of all the cars I've ever owned, my favorite is the Porsche 914/6 my uncle gave to me when I was 21. It's been in the family since new back in 1970. I just remember vaguely being about 4-5 years old and my uncle taking me for rides and cornering hard as he would try to brace me from sliding around in the seat with one hand and attempting to steer with the other, then quickly shifting. I'll never sell this thing.

The worst car I've ever owned was an old Rover 100 P4. What was great about it is you had to break about ten minutes in advance if you wanted to stop. Same with steering. If there was a turn coming up in about a half a mile, you had to start crankin the wheel a few dozen revolutions.

Porsche 914/6:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w265/llamabearduck/89058ee1c26eb42d4adbe7353e38a462_zpsceb1798f.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 03, 2013, 03:04:49 PM
I got to finally test out my roof rack today  :metal

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/941227_10152800083625111_1906051423_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: DebraKadabra on May 03, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
I can row a boat, canoe? :P
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 03, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
Sweet! Can it hold only one kayak?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2013, 04:37:50 AM
It will hold two if you get the kayak mounts. They'd sit on their sides and lay bottom-to-bottom.

(http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/orsracksdirect/2009-chevrolet-hhr-ss-kayak-rack.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 04, 2013, 10:22:55 AM
Sweet!

I need to get a paddle board mount for my car, then again I need to fix my car, sell it and get a new one. Now that the busy season is over I'll hopefully have time to do that.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on September 25, 2013, 02:01:03 PM
okay more issues with my piece of junk

Had a full tune up done in Feb 2013 ( wires/coil pack/plugs etc....) car ran fine until a month ago...car started misfiring and check engine light came on...took it back and the coil pack was faulty...they replaced it since it was still under warranty....in the last 3 weeks they have had to replace the coil pack 2 more times

getting the following error codes p1246....altenator?
                                                     p0302/p0306/p0316  all related to misfires

could the altenator be causing an overload on the coil pack and causing it to continously fail?

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 25, 2013, 02:53:53 PM
This is strictly a guess, but I'm going to say no. The coil packs don't get their juice straight from the alternator. Something buffers it, and more importantly controls the timing. Probably the ECU controls the packs and dictates when they get power.

What I would suggest is that you have the alternator tested (elsewhere) and find out what's going on with it. Coil packs cause misfires. Faulty alternators/VRs cause you to break down on the side of I95. If it's bad, have it rebuilt or replaced. Most garages won't rebuild them, but you can find plenty of people who will do the job and it'll often save a few bucks.

As for the coil packs, if they're under warranty, let the guys who sold/installed them worry about it. They have more of an interest in solving the problem than you do. Maybe they got in a bad lot. If it's one cylinder that keeps failing, that's pretty intriguing and should offer a competent mechanic something to investigate. I'd have them check (or better still replace) the wire.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on September 26, 2013, 10:05:27 AM
p0302 and p0306 say its the second and sixth cylinder...since the coil pack configures to 2 cylinders 1-5,3-4,2-6  its defineatly occuring in the second and sixth cylinders ...they have already checked both cylinders as throughly as they are competent to do so and found nothing

I got into a heated exchange with the Service manager last time (Pep Boys) and told him, he shouldn't call his employees mechanics but rather techs..since all they seem to be able to do is pull a  code.  Told him REAL mechanics don't exist anymore, before cars became computerized a real mechanic could test drive or hell even listen to a noise and pin-point the problem, these guys seem to be clueless

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Octawakeimages on September 26, 2013, 02:18:40 PM
My father is the president of a mustang/ford club in central PA. (He owns the Grabber Orange mustang in the 2nd and 3rd pics.)
Here are some pics from cruises recently:

Very cool!!  I love cruises,  I have a 2003 Mustang Cobra.  That's a nice Grabber Orange!  Do you have one as well?   ;D  Was blasting DT12 on the way to work this morning!  :metal
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 26, 2013, 10:44:56 PM
I got into a heated exchange with the Service manager last time (Pep Boys) and told him, he shouldn't call his employees mechanics but rather techs..since all they seem to be able to do is pull a  code.  Told him REAL mechanics don't exist anymore, before cars became computerized a real mechanic could test drive or hell even listen to a noise and pin-point the problem, these guys seem to be clueless
Interesting choice of terminology. In BMW world, all the service folk I deal with are considered techs, and they tend to be the most qualified mechanics you'll ever come across. I used to have my work done by a guy who was absolutely Godlike in his mechanical abilities, and he considered himself a BMW tech. I think from their perspective it just sounds a lot cooler to be a tech than a mechanic; probably easier to get laid.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 27, 2013, 04:33:27 AM
My defrost is not working and the autoshop is (perhaps bogusly) tracing it back to radiator and water pump... which they want 1800 to fix.

Not sure it's gonna happen.

I drive a '04 Lincoln LS with 92k that always seems to need expensive repairs, even though it runs perfectly fine. Thinking of just getting a toyota or something jsut for the better mileage.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: wkiml on September 27, 2013, 07:28:01 AM
Just hoping to get this thing to last until spring (Annual Bonus) than looking into a smaller SUV/JEEP

Kids are older, one is driving and the second will be soon (permit) so no need for the minivan anymore

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Octawakeimages on September 27, 2013, 07:46:53 AM
Saw this last night at the Thursday night cruise in... always loved these.

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1381501_643706935660518_1186423763_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on September 27, 2013, 08:15:46 AM
Gorgeous, apparently a pain to own, especially the first lot that came off production. Many issues.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 27, 2013, 09:37:48 AM
Well, I don't have kids or a mortage. Hmm... Think I'll trade my gas gusling lincoln in toward a compact hybrid that gets 40-50 MPG.

Anyone have any experience with these compact hybrids, like Honda Insight or Toyota Prius c?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on September 27, 2013, 12:29:30 PM
I don't have much experience personally with them. My dad did drive a prius for a long time, he went through two of them before getting his lexus hybrid.

The one thing that really sucked was driving on the highway, the road noise was nuts, even in the newer models they were pretty bad. Really they are best as city cars.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 08, 2013, 08:14:09 PM
My car's in the shop, getting a new radiator and heater coil.  That's not going to be cheap  :|
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 08, 2013, 10:24:14 PM
I suspect you mean heater core, and those things really suck terribly. I suspect mechanics double the price just because they're such a PITA to do.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on October 09, 2013, 12:41:36 PM
Well, I don't have kids or a mortage. Hmm... Think I'll trade my gas gusling lincoln in toward a compact hybrid that gets 40-50 MPG.

Anyone have any experience with these compact hybrids, like Honda Insight or Toyota Prius c?

Huge fan of the Prius. I've had one as a rental for 21 days. I loved it. It's no sports car, but for someone who commutes 80-100 miles a day, it was fantastic.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on October 09, 2013, 04:14:41 PM
Wound up getting a Civic. Was going to go for the Prius or Insight, but the hybrid prices seem pretty set in stone around here. I had an easier time negotiating with the other cars. Civic's still nice. Great fuel economy still, too.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 13, 2013, 01:57:11 PM
Dear my car,

This is strike two.

After getting it back thursday for the earlier mentioned expensive repair, the clutch decides to fail today on my was home from a friends house  >:(
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 13, 2013, 02:05:02 PM
Dear my car,

This is strike two.

After getting it back thursday for the earlier mentioned expensive repair, the clutch decides to fail today on my was home from a friends house  >:(
Clutches don't just fail all of a sudden. They almost always go gradually. Clutch cylinders fail suddenly, but they're not all that expensive. Your pedal go all the way to the floor with no resistance?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 13, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
It's been making a bit of noise recently... with hindsight I believe that was it failing.  Today I was driving and I started hearing rattling like there was something loose.  I was hoping to make it home but then I was going up a hill and it got to be too much and I stopped.

I hope it's a clutch.  If it's something else I'll be in the market for a car since a transmission rebuild is not something I want to have to deal with, especially a week before I move.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 13, 2013, 02:26:29 PM
How many miles are on it (the clutch, not the car)?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 13, 2013, 02:28:17 PM
I got the car with 129k (I think) and it now has 155k.  I don't know if it's been replaced before, but with my last standard the clutch went around this time (in the more traditional pedal to the floor but cant shift way).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 13, 2013, 02:37:31 PM
If that's the original clutch, you've definitely gotten your money's worth. I normally expect 100-120k out of a clutch. Seems a little young to have a second one fail, unless you're driving a Ford Focus or something.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 17, 2013, 12:06:46 PM
An update since I've been posting about my car.

It wasn't the clutch.  It was the transmission.  No words at this point, still in shock  :|
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 17, 2013, 12:20:01 PM
Don't know if they gave you a quote or not, but standard transmissions usually aren't that expensive to deal with; certainly nothing like automatics. I know I had to replace them on both a Toyota and a Mazda and in both cases they ran about the same as a clutch job. Another consideration, depending on how you feel about the car, is putting a used on one on there. If you're not looking at keeping the car for the long haul, then it's a perfectly viable thing to do.

You never mentioned what kind of car it is, but you might check eBay and see what a used tranny is running for your car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 17, 2013, 01:15:29 PM
It's an 01 Saturn SL2.  I'm looking into what my options are.  The shop is calling around trying to find a used transmission.  When they find one they'll be able to give me an estimate.  This is just the worst possible time for this to happen, on the heels of another large repair and three days before I make a pretty big move  >:(
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 17, 2013, 02:07:03 PM
eBay is full of those things. Seem to run about $350-400 shipped. And, though it's hard to find out, labor time looks like it might be quite a bit less than the clutch job (unless you opt to have both jobs done).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 17, 2013, 04:12:16 PM
I'm going to have it repaired.  $400 is about right.  And since it's all apart (and old clutch is old) he's going to replace that as well.  Might as well have both done when it's all in pieces now than have to tear it apart again in the future.

Also, no wonder the labor is so expensive for this car... there were parts all over that had to be taken out to get to the clutch.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 18, 2013, 08:27:16 AM
Yeah, clutch jobs are notoriously expensive. A rebuild kit only runs you a couple of bills, but you're inevitably looking at 6-8 hours to replace the silly thing. In your case, I'm surprised that there's so much overlap in labor. A transmission swap shouldn't take anywhere near as long as a clutch job. I would agree that there's enough overlap that it'd be best to do both, but I'd guess that you're looking at 4 vs 8 hours or so.

BTW, if you've never driven a car with a brand spanking new clutch, it'll really blow your mind.  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: carl320 on October 18, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
BTW, if you've never driven a car with a brand spanking new clutch, it'll really blow your mind.  :lol

It's nice but there is a learning curve.  A new clutch always takes some getting used to  :lol

The transmission had to come out to get to the clutch.  Which is kind of nice, since now the labor doesn't go up really any.  All they have to do extra is put the new one on the stand.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 18, 2013, 05:39:59 PM
Koenigsegg new Agera R showing off it's new stability control system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SywqgH7n-5g

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 18, 2013, 06:01:09 PM
Koenigsegg new Agera R showing off it's new stability control system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SywqgH7n-5g
I guess that's neat, but all he's really doing is demonstrating that the car won't let you oversteer. I would have liked to see him hold one of those swerves, as if he were actually trying to dodge something in the road. I do recognize that the ESC can only be a benefit in that situation, but I'd still like to see how it plays out.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: MrBoom_shack-a-lack on October 19, 2013, 03:22:55 AM
Koenigsegg new Agera R showing off it's new stability control system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SywqgH7n-5g
I guess that's neat, but all he's really doing is demonstrating that the car won't let you oversteer. I would have liked to see him hold one of those swerves, as if he were actually trying to dodge something in the road. I do recognize that the ESC can only be a benefit in that situation, but I'd still like to see how it plays out.
Yea I guess this was more for show and proof that it won't oversteer. Besides I don't think you wanna risk flippin a Koenigsegg right in front of the press although that would have been entertaining.  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 13, 2013, 07:34:14 AM

Musk's next target for Tesla: Its own 'F150' pickup

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/131112190602-tesla-f150-620xa.jpg)

" "If you're trying to replace the most gasoline miles driven, you have to look at what people are buying," he said after an appearance at a Business Insider conference. "That's the best selling car in America. If people are voting that's their car, then that's the car we have to deliver."

Musk cautioned it's probably five years before Tesla will offer a pickup.

Ford sold 560,000 of the F series pickups in the United States through the first nine months of this year -- a period when Tesla sold just 14,000 of the Model S.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/12/autos/musk-tesla-f150-pickup/index.html?iid=Lead
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 13, 2013, 08:17:56 AM
It'll never fly. The people who buy F series trucks want no part of anything green. Plenty of them drive these things specifically to thumb their noses at anybody who would drive a hybrid/electric car. The only hope Tesla has is that they actually build something rugged enough to interest the contractors and ranchers who buy these things for their actual intended purpose. The high torque provided by electric motors would actually offer them an advantage, but there's still more to it than that.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 13, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
It'll never fly. The people who buy F series trucks want no part of anything green. Plenty of them drive these things specifically to thumb their noses at anybody who would drive a hybrid/electric car. The only hope Tesla has is that they actually build something rugged enough to interest the contractors and ranchers who buy these things for their actual intended purpose. The high torque provided by electric motors would actually offer them an advantage, but there's still more to it than that.

I agree, if we're talking about stupid rednecks. However, I am sure you could win over the construction market if you could suddenly save contractors $1000+ a week in fuel costs (on top of government incentives). And I disagree about the torque. I think that would actually be one of the few things that could actually change peoples' minds. Also, hunters might be interested in a vehicle that doesn't scare the shit out of all wooded wildlife within a mile radius. I say to myself all the time "I wish I could own a truck that gets 30+mpg".
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 13, 2013, 09:26:48 AM
I said torque would actually be an advantage with the electric trucks. I just meant that there's a lot more to it than that. If you're going to use all of that torque you need to construct a vehicle that's incredibly rugged.

edit: Oh, and I'm not so sure about hunters. They have a tendency to drive way the hell out into the boonies, and I don't think people have all that much confidence driving a car with limited range that far out into the Styx. It'd certainly make me nervous.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 16, 2013, 04:35:50 PM
BMW i8 "test vehicle" at my work. I usually don't go for the supercarish look but I think this thing is beautiful

(https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1465103_10151985142463427_1927007084_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on November 18, 2013, 01:18:41 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 18, 2013, 02:44:01 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.
Nah, keep burning rice (or better still kraut). Japanese sports cars are reasonably fast, reasonably agile and reasonably dependable. American muscle cars move up to stupidly fast at the expense of handling and reliability. Great for showing off at stoplights, but not much good for anything else (unless you're a dealership).

For the record, I wont discount the classic and now retro styling. Some of the throwback cars look really cool, and the new Camaros aren't bad. Americans muscle cars are just antithetical to everything I want in a car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 18, 2013, 04:08:33 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.

For what a Camaro SS costs, I'd prefer to get the Mini Cooper John Cooper Works hardtop. I'm assuming you wouldn't be using the back seats anyway.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on November 18, 2013, 06:29:48 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.

For what a Camaro SS costs, I'd prefer to get the Mini Cooper John Cooper Works hardtop. I'm assuming you wouldn't be using the back seats anyway.


I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.

Have you driven a 370z compared to a 350z? I'm curious because in high school I drove around in my dads 350 a few months while he was overseas. It was an awesome car but now that I'm 9 years older (good lord) the 350 and 370 didn't age well for me.

I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.

For what a Camaro SS costs, I'd prefer to get the Mini Cooper John Cooper Works hardtop. I'm assuming you wouldn't be using the back seats anyway.


My buddy has a full loaded john works clubman, it's pretty nice :tup Lots of neat features.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on February 06, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
Just began the prime of her life today:

(http://i.imgur.com/oohv8Zb.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 06, 2014, 10:17:58 PM
Both of my 3's made it to about 220k before they became cost prohibitive to keep on the road.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 09, 2014, 10:49:07 AM
Street legal New Beetle w/ a jet engine.

http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/
(http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/images/VW_Rear_Pa1_PScopy.jpg)
(http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/images/AB12_15_05copy.jpg)


Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 10, 2014, 04:33:18 AM
Both of my 3's made it to about 220k before they became cost prohibitive to keep on the road.

Damn I'm jealous. My Mini is getting on a flatbed for the second time tomorrow. Piece of shit. I'm dumping that car the day my warranty is up and I don't see myself sticking with the brand.

(taken from my post at a mini forum)

The vehicle is a 2013 Justa with 29,300 miles on it. I've had its oil changed on schedule, and the water pump died and was replaced under warranty at 22,000 miles.

Mini Noise - YouTube (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5lDZpWQ2w")

Any insight would be much appreciated :)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on February 10, 2014, 06:43:22 AM
Both of my 3's made it to about 220k before they became cost prohibitive to keep on the road.

Damn I'm jealous. My Mini is getting on a flatbed for the second time tomorrow. Piece of shit. I'm dumping that car the day my warranty is up and I don't see myself sticking with the brand.

(taken from my post at a mini forum)

The vehicle is a 2013 Justa with 29,300 miles on it. I've had its oil changed on schedule, and the water pump died and was replaced under warranty at 22,000 miles.

Mini Noise - YouTube (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5lDZpWQ2w")

Any insight would be much appreciated :)

My buddy owns a 2014 countryman (which was rated by one automotive group as one of the most unreliable cars out there) and it has been back to the dealership 3 times already. It doesn't even have 10k. Tis a shame because the car is nice overall.

In other news I discovered my bmw has a small oil leak from the bolt, no biggie but it left a little mess underneath the car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on February 10, 2014, 07:12:23 AM
Can't help you Chino, but Mini's are the least reliable cars accoorrding to Consumer Reports. Next on the list is Lincoln - I drove one of those for awhile, but it became way to much to maintain around 80k, as it needed frequent costly repairs, and given the parts and level of maintenance skill needed to repair the Lincoln, even cheapo repairs could wind up being expensive. I'd imagine BMW is kind of the same.

The difference is, driving Lincoln and BMW is a lot of fun usually, while driving a Mini is... I dunno, you tell me?

I'm much happier in a Honda Civic these days. Accelerating isn't as fun as it used to be, but I'm saving almost half of my payment in what I used to pay for gas. I also expect it to hold up better overall.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 10, 2014, 01:28:51 PM
The Minis used to be halfway reliable. I know there are plenty of owners that love theirs. I think the unreliability thing is a more recent phenomenon. Shame, because the S models are supposed to be a hoot to drive. Sadly, BMW isn't really focusing much on fun anymore. Each new generation seems to become more sterile than the last.

Can't help you Chino, but Mini's are the least reliable cars accoorrding to Consumer Reports. Next on the list is Lincoln - I drove one of those for awhile, but it became way to much to maintain around 80k, as it needed frequent costly repairs, and given the parts and level of maintenance skill needed to repair the Lincoln, even cheapo repairs could wind up being expensive. I'd imagine BMW is kind of the same.
BMW's can be expensive to repair, but they're built incredibly well so the repairs are infrequent.


Reaper: don't you own some hot-ass M3 or something? I'd find out where exactly that leak is coming from. If  it's a headbolt, you've got problems. If it's the valve cover or rear seal it's likely cheap enough to be better off fixed. No point in dealing with the hassle, especially given what oil costs nowadays.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 10, 2014, 01:44:35 PM
The Mini is hands down one of the most fun vehicles I've ever driven. Even though it lacks the horsepower, you can rip through town and back roads in ways that no other cars can. I love driving a Mini, I hate owning it. I agree with EB. The BMW lines are becoming more about the luxury than the the driving experience. However, my mom has an 2013 3 series coupe that is terrifying to drive. It begs for more throttle no matter how fast you're going around a turn.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 10, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
It begs for more throttle no matter how fast you're going around a turn.
That's been a hallmark of the 3 series since they invented the thing. It's what sold me on my for 325IS back in the 90's. Guy that sold it to me took me for a drive that pretty much hooked me. The terrifying aspect is a different story. While they continue to get faster, they also remove a lot of the funness of them by taking away control. You can't find sticks anymore, and while I understand the benefit of a modern SMG, without a clutch it's just not the same. Furthermore, traction and stability control also make it harder to scare people.

And what's wrong with your Mini, BTW? Didn't you just buy that thing, and shouldn't it still have a factory warrant?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 10, 2014, 02:18:51 PM
The Mini is just being a pain in the ass. It's water pump failed at 23k miles and was replaced under warranty. Now it sounds like someone is jamming an empty soda can into a spinning bike wheel. It's horrible sounding. Factory warranty is good until 50k miles. I'm going to start looking to dump it come 45k miles. It also already rattles a bunch in the cabin.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 10, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
Water pumps fail. I don't read too much into those. BMW used pumps with plastic impellers for years. The first thing any responsible owner did was to replace the thing with an aftermarket pump with steel impellers that's good forever. Wouldn't surprise me if Mini did the same thing. As for the noise, when does it happen and where does it come from? Not trying to dissuade you from unloading the thing, just bored on Amtrak and playing the troubleshooting game.  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 10, 2014, 06:09:53 PM
Water pumps fail. I don't read too much into those. BMW used pumps with plastic impellers for years. The first thing any responsible owner did was to replace the thing with an aftermarket pump with steel impellers that's good forever. Wouldn't surprise me if Mini did the same thing. As for the noise, when does it happen and where does it come from? Not trying to dissuade you from unloading the thing, just bored on Amtrak and playing the troubleshooting game.  :lol

I get that water pumps fail. The Passat and Mazda3 that I had prior to this both had one fail. However, both of those were after 100k miles. I'm a responsible owner, not a car mechanic, I couldn't swap out a water pump on a Mini without fucking a dozen other things up.

As for the rattles inside, wherever plastic meets plastic is a source of noise. The entire dash, the radio, the door moldings, etc... they all rattle unless I'm applying pressure with my arm or fist. Sorry for the late reply and leaving you hanging on the train haha.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 10, 2014, 06:18:51 PM
I know a guy who has a Mini that's been nothing but trouble. I don't know exactly what he has had to have done but he said something like after he hit 20k miles it was just one thing after another.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on February 10, 2014, 07:17:07 PM
Water pumps fail. I don't read too much into those. BMW used pumps with plastic impellers for years. The first thing any responsible owner did was to replace the thing with an aftermarket pump with steel impellers that's good forever. Wouldn't surprise me if Mini did the same thing. As for the noise, when does it happen and where does it come from? Not trying to dissuade you from unloading the thing, just bored on Amtrak and playing the troubleshooting game.  :lol

I get that water pumps fail. The Passat and Mazda3 that I had prior to this both had one fail. However, both of those were after 100k miles. I'm a responsible owner, not a car mechanic, I couldn't swap out a water pump on a Mini without fucking a dozen other things up.

As for the rattles inside, wherever plastic meets plastic is a source of noise. The entire dash, the radio, the door moldings, etc... they all rattle unless I'm applying pressure with my arm or fist. Sorry for the late reply and leaving you hanging on the train haha.

Yeah, water pump should NOT be failing that quickly.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 11, 2014, 12:44:42 AM
Yeah, water pump should NOT be failing that quickly.
No. One shouldn't. But they can and do fail early sometimes. I just wouldn't take that as necessarily a knock against a car. However, it sounds like there's more than enough evidence from all sorts of people that the cars a pieces of shit.


Chino: I thought you were saying that there was a horrible noise, and the car rattled. I also wasn't suggesting that responsible car owners change their own water pumps. There are other repairs (timing belt, accessory belts, engine fan, etc.) that get done that involve getting down into it, and it's usually done then. Any mechanic who has to get within 30 minutes of a water pump will usually suggest you go ahead and replace it preventively. In the older BMWs, the rule was to replace the timing belt and the water pump whenever either one needed it.  Adds 15 minutes of labor and restarts the clock.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on February 11, 2014, 06:30:41 AM
Reaper: don't you own some hot-ass M3 or something? I'd find out where exactly that leak is coming from. If  it's a headbolt, you've got problems. If it's the valve cover or rear seal it's likely cheap enough to be better off fixed. No point in dealing with the hassle, especially given what oil costs nowadays.

I tracked it down last night, it's an oil filter gasket leak, and no, no m3 for me :(. I am looking to replace my 330 with an e92 m3 this summer. My issue is I took the s1000rr (motorcycle) for a ride a few months ago and I feel like I can live with my 330 and get another motorcycle.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 11, 2014, 09:10:31 AM
Reaper: don't you own some hot-ass M3 or something? I'd find out where exactly that leak is coming from. If  it's a headbolt, you've got problems. If it's the valve cover or rear seal it's likely cheap enough to be better off fixed. No point in dealing with the hassle, especially given what oil costs nowadays.

I tracked it down last night, it's an oil filter gasket leak, and no, no m3 for me :(. I am looking to replace my 330 with an e92 m3 this summer. My issue is I took the s1000rr (motorcycle) for a ride a few months ago and I feel like I can live with my 330 and get another motorcycle.
Be careful getting that fixed. A local mechanic quoted me a shit-ton of labor on the filter housing gasket, since a lot of stuff would have to come off to get at it. Did it myself at a friends house in 2 hours, and most of that was learning curve time. Honestly, my new mechanic could have done it in 30 minutes. Also, the belts will have to come off, so if they're even slightly worn now is the time to replace them.

The thing that concerned me about the E92 M3 is the so-called "launch mode." Getting that thing to take off requires nearly as many steps as starting a B29 bomber. That's what I was saying about taking the fun out of driving. You shouldn't need a checklist to blow somebody off of a line. Also, I believe the car keeps track of how many times it's been done, and after a handful of "launches" BMW will void the warrant on your clutch packs.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on February 11, 2014, 04:30:23 PM
Reaper: don't you own some hot-ass M3 or something? I'd find out where exactly that leak is coming from. If  it's a headbolt, you've got problems. If it's the valve cover or rear seal it's likely cheap enough to be better off fixed. No point in dealing with the hassle, especially given what oil costs nowadays.

I tracked it down last night, it's an oil filter gasket leak, and no, no m3 for me :(. I am looking to replace my 330 with an e92 m3 this summer. My issue is I took the s1000rr (motorcycle) for a ride a few months ago and I feel like I can live with my 330 and get another motorcycle.
Be careful getting that fixed. A local mechanic quoted me a shit-ton of labor on the filter housing gasket, since a lot of stuff would have to come off to get at it. Did it myself at a friends house in 2 hours, and most of that was learning curve time. Honestly, my new mechanic could have done it in 30 minutes. Also, the belts will have to come off, so if they're even slightly worn now is the time to replace them.

The thing that concerned me about the E92 M3 is the so-called "launch mode." Getting that thing to take off requires nearly as many steps as starting a B29 bomber. That's what I was saying about taking the fun out of driving. You shouldn't need a checklist to blow somebody off of a line. Also, I believe the car keeps track of how many times it's been done, and after a handful of "launches" BMW will void the warrant on your clutch packs.

I plan to do the work myself, there is very little that I won't work on in my cars.

Yea I remember that huge scandal when the launch control came out. I believe the the first gen GTR would also void it after a certain number of launched starts.

My buddy took me in a ride in his 2014 rs5 and did a launch start, it may have a 14 point check list but when it launches it feels like being kicked in the throat.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 11, 2014, 04:38:48 PM
Just began the prime of her life today:

(http://i.imgur.com/oohv8Zb.jpg)
I'd like to ask a paramedic how many times he's come across a car wrapped around a telephone pole with the clock at exactly 100,000. Guarantee it happens.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on February 11, 2014, 05:55:04 PM
I'll have to ask my dad.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 12, 2014, 12:06:20 PM
Well that sucks


http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/12/us/national-corvette-museum-cars-fall/
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 12, 2014, 02:42:56 PM
That blows.

Well I got a call from the Mini dealer today. My water pump pulley assembly fell apart and my water pump was damaged in the process. So that all got replaced. So I've had two new water pumps installed in the last 7k miles.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 12, 2014, 03:23:54 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.
Nah, keep burning rice (or better still kraut). Japanese sports cars are reasonably fast, reasonably agile and reasonably dependable. American muscle cars move up to stupidly fast at the expense of handling and reliability. Great for showing off at stoplights, but not much good for anything else (unless you're a dealership).

For the record, I wont discount the classic and now retro styling. Some of the throwback cars look really cool, and the new Camaros aren't bad. Americans muscle cars are just antithetical to everything I want in a car.

Well, it all comes down to trade offs really.  Practical cars are usually low maintenance.  High performance usually means higher maintenance depending on how you drive it.  My Civic has paid for itself many times over but I've done practical long enough.  For me, it's a question of what I want now and what I can fit into.  I'm tall and I gave up some leg room in the Honda.  Not many cars I can fit into comfortably.  American muscle cars are more like toys than anything else.  As far as handling goes, depends on the kind of package you get.  A regular Camaro SS is just a nice looking and fast cruiser.  If you want great handling, gotta get the 1LE performance upgrade.  I like the Dodge Challenger body style too except for the tail lights.  But the Camaro is just an all around great looking car.

Have you driven a 370z compared to a 350z? I'm curious because in high school I drove around in my dads 350 a few months while he was overseas. It was an awesome car but now that I'm 9 years older (good lord) the 350 and 370 didn't age well for me.

I haven't driven either to be honest.  Considering test driving a 370, but from what I've heard, they produce a lot of road noise and I'm not sure about the leg room either.  Only one way to find out for sure.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 12, 2014, 05:44:08 PM
I've been driving a Civic EX for about 14 years now.  Seriously thinking about a new 2014 Camaro SS.  Tired of rice burners, although I'm also considering a 2014 Nissan 370Z.  However, not as many options as the Camaro.  We shall see.
Nah, keep burning rice (or better still kraut). Japanese sports cars are reasonably fast, reasonably agile and reasonably dependable. American muscle cars move up to stupidly fast at the expense of handling and reliability. Great for showing off at stoplights, but not much good for anything else (unless you're a dealership).

For the record, I wont discount the classic and now retro styling. Some of the throwback cars look really cool, and the new Camaros aren't bad. Americans muscle cars are just antithetical to everything I want in a car.

Well, it all comes down to trade offs really.  Practical cars are usually low maintenance.  High performance usually means higher maintenance depending on how you drive it.  My Civic has paid for itself many times over but I've done practical long enough.  For me, it's a question of what I want now and what I can fit into.  I'm tall and I gave up some leg room in the Honda.  Not many cars I can fit into comfortably.  American muscle cars are more like toys than anything else.  As far as handling goes, depends on the kind of package you get.  A regular Camaro SS is just a nice looking and fast cruiser.  If you want great handling, gotta get the 1LE performance upgrade.  I like the Dodge Challenger body style too except for the tail lights.  But the Camaro is just an all around great looking car.
Just read up on the 1LE package and it looks like a damn fine value. If you were planning on keeping the car indefinitely, just the tranny cooler alone might be worth $4k. Better brakes, struts and sway bars will certainly improve the handling (although I don't know how much that's saying), and the better gearing will damn sure make it more fun to drive. Still not a fan of overpowered 2 ton behemoths, but for those who are into that sort of thing this looks like a fun ride.

And you should check out the Z. No experience with them myself since the 80's, buy my 280 was a great ride. Pretty good sized car and extraordinary handling (saved my life once).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 13, 2014, 08:14:42 AM
Yeah, my dad had a 79' 280Z 2+2.  Pretty cool car.  Lot's of leg room and very fast.  Got to drive it a couple times.   :tup
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Perpetual Change on February 13, 2014, 08:37:59 AM
That blows.

Well I got a call from the Mini dealer today. My water pump pulley assembly fell apart and my water pump was damaged in the process. So that all got replaced. So I've had two new water pumps installed in the last 7k miles.

Did they assembly fall apart last time, too? I could see how you'd lose two so quickly with a bigger problem like that going unnoticed the first time.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 13, 2014, 10:51:54 AM
(http://www.ronpatrickstuff.com/images/AB12_15_05copy.jpg)

That's cute.

(http://kmartin.smugmug.com/Transportation/Vehicles/i-bdFQGw4/0/XL/IMG_1742-XL.jpg)

That blows.

Well I got a call from the Mini dealer today. My water pump pulley assembly fell apart and my water pump was damaged in the process. So that all got replaced. So I've had two new water pumps installed in the last 7k miles.

Did they assembly fall apart last time, too? I could see how you'd lose two so quickly with a bigger problem like that going unnoticed the first time.

As far as I know, no. My guess it that when everything was put back together the first time, something was done incorrectly.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 13, 2014, 11:18:25 AM
The VW would be awesome if the engine stayed retracted until you need it. Sort of like the Subaru in Cannonball Run.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on March 04, 2014, 02:13:35 PM
I think this new release is pretty cool.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090641_2015-jeep-renegade-is-the-new-baby-jeep-2014-geneva-motor-show

"Jeep is charting new waters with its 2015 Renegade, which takes the SUV brand into subcompact territory. The vehicle will also be built in Italy and imported to the U.S., which is another first for Jeep, but the good news is that the Renegade should live up to Jeepís reputation for toughness and off-road prowess."

(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2015-jeep-renegade_100458448_l.jpg)
(http://images.thecarconnection.com/lrg/2015-jeep-renegade_100458451_l.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 05, 2014, 01:01:08 PM
So pothole season has taken its toll on my toyota matrix.  My girlfriend is the primary driver, and told me she hit a particularly nasty pothole a few weeks ago.  The next time she drove it, she noticed a loud periodic rumbling sound.  I then drove it and noticed there was a pretty serious shake to go along with it.  It wan't an alignment or wheel balance issue because it didn't always shake, and applying the brakes made it worse.  So i brought it to Pep Boys where they do free brake inspections.  They confirmed what I thought, and the brake calipers were "siezed", as they said.  They quoted me ~$700 for the repair, I bought the parts myself, tipped the guy who looked at it for free, and left.  The problem is that I live in an apartment, and need to bring it to a friend's house 35 miles and 2 bridge crossings away to do the repair.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on March 05, 2014, 01:12:30 PM
The problem is that I live in an apartment, and need to bring it to a friend's house 35 miles and 2 bridge crossings away to do the repair.

I know it sucks, but I'd set an alarm for 3AM and hit the road at its emptiest. I've had to do that before.

Similar story. Two winters ago, I hit a pothole and blew one of my rims to pieces. After struggling for a half our to get the wheel off, I got the spare on and continued home. Three miles later, I hit another pothole and destroyed the spare I had just put on.  :tdwn
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 05, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
So pothole season has taken its toll on my toyota matrix.  My girlfriend is the primary driver, and told me she hit a particularly nasty pothole a few weeks ago.  The next time she drove it, she noticed a loud periodic rumbling sound.  I then drove it and noticed there was a pretty serious shake to go along with it.  It wan't an alignment or wheel balance issue because it didn't always shake, and applying the brakes made it worse.  So i brought it to Pep Boys where they do free brake inspections.  They confirmed what I thought, and the brake calipers were "siezed", as they said.  They quoted me ~$700 for the repair, I bought the parts myself, tipped the guy who looked at it for free, and left.  The problem is that I live in an apartment, and need to bring it to a friend's house 35 miles and 2 bridge crossings away to do the repair.
Did you actually confirm the brake caliper issue yourself? Not sure why a pothole would cause one to seize, or how a seizure would cause what you're describing. I could conjure up a few guesses, but seized caliper would be somewhat low on the list. Top of the list would be one of the many bushings that are in a car's front end.

For what it's worth, replacing brakes stuff is one of the few car repair jobs I enjoy. Just make sure you have the appropriate tools, including the stuff you don't think of. Some kind of mallet is crucial. Couple of cheater bars, as well. Caliper parts tend to work themselves in ridiculously tight.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 06, 2014, 01:05:51 PM
The mechanic said the wheel wouldn't rotate freely. Also, the night before I had it inspected, while at a stop light, the car wouldn't move under idle power and it sounded as if I was partially applying the brakes (the slipping sound you hear when there is just barely enough pressure on the pads to keep the car stopped).  I needed to apply power to get rolling.  It felt like I was dragging a sled, and my gas mileage was significantly lower during that time, too.

My observations combined with the mechanic telling me the wheels didn't turn freely confirmed for me that it's the brakes.  If it is an issue with bushings, then I will take that path once I make this repair.  For $200 in parts (calipers, rotors and pads), I wont be too bent out of shape if this isn't the complete answer.  She said she was on the brakes when she hit the pothole, so it seems reasonable that the impact could have transmitted to the brakes.

I don't mind doing brake jobs either, but the last time I replaced rotors, I had a real bitch of a time removing the caliper bracket bolts on one wheel, and couldn't change that rotor.  I used the longest breaker bar I could fit in the wheel well, and then an impact wrench.  I didn't have a torch available, which may have solved that problem.  Moot point, as that car got flooded a few months later during hurricane Sandy.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 06, 2014, 01:33:23 PM
You're certainly describing a seized brake caliper. The problem I see is that a bump won't cause it to seize. Time certainly will and that's an easy enough fix (grease up the glide bolt, problem solved). If she hit the pothole hard enough to actually damage the caliper then you're going to find other trauma once you're down there. Since you've done caliper jobs before you know what they're built like. Imagine how much force it's going to take to bend one.  :lol

Helpful hint from Barto: Since your're driving to a friend's place to do the work, consider stopping off at a Pep Boys or NTW near your friends and have them loosen the caliper bolts (which are always a real bitch). They've got the tools to do it and they can hand tighten it enough to get you the final mile or two to your buddy's. They'll either charge you a few bucks, or nothing at all, in which case you throw the helpful grease monkey a fiver and consider yourself a fortunate lad. I've resorted to that after breaking some Craftsman tools on those seized up bastards.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 06, 2014, 02:49:45 PM
My buddy works for his town's vehicle maintenance garage (fixes snow plows and stuff), and has his own tools at home, including impact sockets and pneumatic impact wrench.  I figure that's what a garage would use, so I should be good there.

I am worried that an impact hard enough to make this damage has also damaged other stuff, including linkage.  I figure since my alignment is fine that this might somehow not be the case.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 11, 2014, 08:45:19 AM
Success.  No hangups at all.  I expected all sorts of small problems, but regular hand tools did the job.

I now think there was a preexisting condition with the brakes which was made worse by the pothole impact.  My gas mileage is noticeably better, even better than before the impact, and the car seems to coast and accelerate better.    Ball joints, axles and steering and suspension linkage all seemed OK, but I do have an intermittent vibration when idling in gear.  This is new since the impact, but I will keep an eye on it before giving a blank check to a mechanic to "see what's wrong".  My friend mentioned a possible worn motor mount.

In other vehicle news, I also had a check engine light for many months which was identified by the code as a "lean mixture" (P0171), so a few weeks ago I got around to replacing the intake manifold gasket, and the light has stayed off since.  This may also be a contributor to the improved gas mileage.

Cars can be a real pain in the ass, but I learn more and more about them with each problem.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 05, 2014, 10:10:11 AM
I want it! New 5-door Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430 (http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430)

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--hQR7JnLO--/th7legzcpndrq89qdigi.jpg)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VmCeJVXz--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/jacuaeohqbnbubtdlsfh.jpg)
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GsbR0xGn--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/vovpj1pkgwujyivjskeb.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 10:24:30 AM
This is what I want:

2015 Subaru STI

(http://media.caranddriver.com/images/media/51/2015-subaru-wrx-sti-inline2-photo-565128-s-original.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 05, 2014, 11:33:50 AM
I want it! New 5-door Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430 (http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430)
You already own a Mini and think it's a POS.  :lol

Besides which, the modern Minis are actually far too big to really be comparable to their namesake. At this point there's not reason not to buy a normal car if you want extra seating. Seems to me like the people who would buy this are just doing so for status, which makes them no different than the people who drive H2's and Escalades.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 05, 2014, 11:42:58 AM
I want it! New 5-door Mini.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430 (http://jalopnik.com/2015-mini-cooper-5-door-this-is-it-1586260430)
You already own a Mini and think it's a POS.  :lol

Besides which, the modern Minis are actually far too big to really be comparable to their namesake. At this point there's not reason not to buy a normal car if you want extra seating. Seems to me like the people who would buy this are just doing so for status, which makes them no different than the people who drive H2's and Escalades.

True, but I haven't had a problem in 10k miles, so maybe I'm coming around  :lol Status is exactly the reason I'd prefer the mini. Not because I think it makes me look rich or anything like that, but because it has a certain cool factor to it. When you build a car, you get to pick from a ridiculous amount of combinations and make a truly unique car. It's all part of the experience. When I need service, hanging out at the Mini dealership is actually pretty fun. Plus, I like being able to get 40+mpg during my 110 mile commute every day.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 05, 2014, 12:55:47 PM
So my friend reserved one of these:

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/the-new-us-automaker-s--6800--84-mpg-elio--142815228.html

http://www.eliomotors.com/


Supposed to get a 80+ MPG, and cost $6,800.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on June 05, 2014, 01:05:14 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/OA42Dnn.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 05, 2014, 01:09:38 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 01:12:47 PM
Reminds me of the cousin it mobile  :lol

(http://www.addamsfamily.com/addams/messerschmitt1.jpg)

Not that there's anything wrong with that. I actually think its a pretty cool idea.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 05, 2014, 02:05:10 PM
It's kind of like the T-Rex, but 1/10 the price.

(http://www.campagnamotors.com/media/32112/home_16s_poweredbybmw.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 08, 2014, 11:35:57 AM
@Chino


http://wot.motortrend.com/1406_new_mini_cooper_lego_set_contains_over_1000_pieces_picnic_set.html

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on June 09, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
One of my hobbies is autocross. Here's an A/B of two runs from this past weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTlGvOE1qI
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 09, 2014, 07:06:58 PM
One of my hobbies is autocross. Here's an A/B of two runs from this past weekend:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTlGvOE1qI
Probably just me but I'd prefer to hear the car rather than the music (unless you were actually listening to it whilst driving). Anyway, looks like a helluva lot of fun. I really miss driving a car that offers up that much fun in second gear.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on June 09, 2014, 07:09:29 PM
Thanks. I need to mic my exhaust or intake, otherwise there is just too much wind noise (which I used the music to kind of cover up). That car is a lot of fun and you can still get it sideways in 2nd!
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on September 16, 2014, 06:32:49 PM
Had a friend with a modded 335i come out for our monthly autocross and we had goPro's on both cars, so I synchronized the videos at time start. Granted, it would be a more fair driver comparison if the cars were in the same class and more fair car comparison if it were the same driver, but it's still interesting to see the differences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8SG7xEVy3I

More videos from my runs that same day. Second part is me getting sideways on the last turn, third part is front tire at 50% speed since I was having issues with tire flex and roll last month and wanted to better understand what's going on up there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRfObBAzY9g
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 16, 2014, 06:52:45 PM
Had a friend with a modded 335i come out for our monthly autocross and we had goPro's on both cars, so I synchronized the videos at time start. Granted, it would be a more fair driver comparison if the cars were in the same class and more fair car comparison if it were the same driver, but it's still interesting to see the differences.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8SG7xEVy3I

More videos from my runs that same day. Second part is me getting sideways on the last turn, third part is front tire at 50% speed since I was having issues with tire flex and roll last month and wanted to better understand what's going on up there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRfObBAzY9g
Huh. I'd have expected his turbo'd I6 to be quicker than your NA V8 out of the turns. Out of curiosity, is he as familiar with that course as you are? While I'd certainly expect your car to handle quite a bit better, it seemed you were more aggressive in those turns.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on September 16, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
Actually I have an I6 in mine, the S54. This is only his second time coming out, whereas I've been at it for almost a year (my fifth time on this particular course), so I have that advantage over him. He's making great progress and has dropped several seconds from his first time.

Three big differences between the two is he is on runflat all-seasons and I'm on summer tires; my launches are a lot better and I can hook up right away while he's still trying to find the sweet spot; and he has an open diff, while I have an LSD, so I can get on the power a lot more aggressively and earlier in the turns.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 16, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
Make's sense. I miss the LSD in my E30.

And damn, they really tune the hell out of those S motors. Conversely, I suspect they detune the hell out of the M motors. I'd expect a BMW I6 with twin screws to be a helluva lot beefier than what they're getting.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on September 16, 2014, 08:13:06 PM
You can make a ton of HP out of those turbos. Just a chip and bam! 400 HP, which the 335i driver had done. It was deliciously torquey.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on September 16, 2014, 08:33:35 PM
You can make a ton of HP out of those turbos. Just a chip and bam! 400 HP, which the 335i driver had done. It was deliciously torquey.

I was sitting in a chipped 335 recently and the power gain is nuts whereas the V8 M3 (which is my favorite M3 looks wise) was pretty much at it's limits.

I recently took my buddies 2014 RS5 out for a spin, jesus christ what a car, if I only had the money . . . .
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on September 16, 2014, 09:02:21 PM
Yup, BMW pretty much got as much as they could out of the S54 and S65.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 16, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
Yeah, it honestly kind of saddened me that BMW had to resort to turbocharging. I certainly understand it; there wasn't anywhere else to go. But at the same time BMW essentially perfected the inline six. Doing so was largely a function of not throwing in the towel on natural aspiration, as their competitors had, and still being competitive. There's a certain traditionalist appeal in that for me. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on September 16, 2014, 10:50:29 PM
As long as they give it 3 pedals.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on September 16, 2014, 11:02:59 PM
I thought clutches were a thing of the past in this country. Anytime I walk past a sports car in a parking lot I look inside to see if it's a stick and haven't seen one in many years.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on September 17, 2014, 07:27:32 AM
I thought clutches were a thing of the past in this country. Anytime I walk past a sports car in a parking lot I look inside to see if it's a stick and haven't seen one in many years.

I wouldn't say a thing of the past quite yet. My buddy who works for a local BMW dealership says that a large number of the new m4 orders have been for true manuals.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on October 02, 2014, 07:58:20 AM
I'm shitting myself in excitement.

(http://www.thetorquereport.com/assets_c/2014/10/Tesla%20D%20Teaser-Twitter-0003-thumb-530xauto-37081.jpg)

I'm guessing the D is going to be the $40k range sedan model, and the something else will be an electric motorcycle or a pickup truck.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on October 02, 2014, 08:07:02 AM
Or.... you know... Musk is going to "leak" nudes of himself.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on October 02, 2014, 08:18:10 AM
I've never gotten everybody's fascination with Tesla Motors.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on October 02, 2014, 08:24:43 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on October 03, 2014, 06:55:54 AM
This photo has been floating around in light of yesterday's post.

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/448c0d45635e1c2f420541b72d24707/200861501/tesla-model-s-p85d-adelman.jpg)

Many are believing the "D" refers to a beefed up Model S, possibly indicating dual motors/4wd. Tesla's next vehicle, the Model X has a 4wd drivetrain, and since its platform is similar to the Model S', it's not too far fetched of an idea. The "85" portion of the badge probably means the battery is going to remain the same size. I don't think a 4wd Model S would be a terrible idea. The extra traction will knock down the 0-60 time (already a respectable 4.2) as well as maybe be more appealing to people in areas with winter.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on December 27, 2014, 12:34:52 PM
Good time to bump the thread.  Picking this up from the dealership on Monday.  Oh yeah!  :hat

2015 Camaro ZL1

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss308/Zulan8r/imagejpg2_zps06eee2a1.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Zulan8r/media/imagejpg2_zps06eee2a1.jpg.html)

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss308/Zulan8r/imagejpg1_zps69307f57.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Zulan8r/media/imagejpg1_zps69307f57.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ddtonfire on December 27, 2014, 12:37:03 PM
Sick, enjoy the torque addiction!

 :tup :tup :tup
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: rumborak on December 27, 2014, 10:52:51 PM
I've never gotten everybody's fascination with Tesla Motors.

Tesla/Musk are the Apple/Jobs of cars really.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on December 30, 2014, 12:06:12 AM
Good time to bump the thread.  Picking this up from the dealership on Monday.  Oh yeah!  :hat

2015 Camaro ZL1

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss308/Zulan8r/imagejpg2_zps06eee2a1.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Zulan8r/media/imagejpg2_zps06eee2a1.jpg.html)

(http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/ss308/Zulan8r/imagejpg1_zps69307f57.jpg) (http://s586.photobucket.com/user/Zulan8r/media/imagejpg1_zps69307f57.jpg.html)

Today, I've officially entered BEAST MODE!  6.2 Liter Supercharged V8 580hp.  If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.    :biggrin:



-AAgent66
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on January 05, 2015, 08:02:11 AM
What's the mpg like on that thing?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on January 13, 2015, 10:24:35 AM
Man... the new Raptor is gorgeous.

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/150112100103-2015-naias-ford-raptor-1024x640.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 22, 2015, 11:45:42 AM
This was in a Cracked photoplasty and it really is quite amazing. Malibu driver would have limped away while the Bel Air driver would have been liquified. And this was only at 40mph. A good highway collision would have been even worse. A fine example of design beating the shit out of brute force.

(http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/0/7/6/361076_v1.gif)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on January 22, 2015, 12:02:22 PM
I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 22, 2015, 12:23:26 PM
I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.
Do a search for Malibu vs Bel Air and read the comments on any of the articles. Those guys are out in full force about it. "They removed the engine!!!" "The frame is all rusted out!!!" The physics behind what's happening here aren't complicated at all, so it baffles me that people would really put up a stink about it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on January 22, 2015, 12:23:54 PM
I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.

Ugh. I can't stand those people. Fucking red necks bitching about the new aluminum F150s and how Ford caved to the liberal earth lovers and the elite that want to make vehicles less safe for population control reasons.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on January 22, 2015, 12:37:31 PM
I actually just showed it to a guy, and I said "its pretty much disintegrated", to which he replied "yeah, the malibu"...  Amazing how you can see what you want to see.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: vtgrad on January 22, 2015, 12:50:59 PM
 :o That's a hot knife going through room-temp butter.  I had to watch that a few times to get the full effect.

Regarding the bumper comparison comments, I've always been of the opinion that once you exceed 10-15 MPH, the material that the bumper is made from is of little consequence... it all comes down to the cage/frame structure that's built into the car. 

Alternately, having been in two higher speed crashes myself (70+ MPH; both single car, both my fault of course), the older auto performed much worse than the newer auto.  Thanks be to GOD that none of the occupants of my first crash were seriously hurt.

Honestly, I'd trust my mostly aluminum 2007 Dodge Magnum over my mostly steel 1998 Jeep Wrangler in any crash over 15MPH.

I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.

Ugh. I can't stand those people. Fucking red necks bitching about the new aluminum F150s and how Ford caved to the liberal earth lovers and the elite that want to make vehicles less safe for population control reasons.

 :lol Never seen that argument before
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 22, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
If anybody is actually arguing with knuckleheads defending the older cars, ask them if that Bel Air was safer without seatbelts, which were an upgrade at that point of time.  :lol  The only reason that dummy didn't follow the windshiled down the street was because the steering wheel plowed into it's head.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 25, 2015, 12:14:04 PM
on my Datsun 280Z
Had one of those myself. A lot of trouble, but I'm certain that phenomenal front end save my life on one occasion whilst regrettably emulating one of the aforementioned heroes.

I ended up hitting a tree head-on at 60 mph, no seatbelt, and walked away with only a slight concussion, broken nose, and some cuts and bruises, in no small part because of that front end.

God, I miss that car.  It was a horrible orange color, but I had a relatively rare 2+2, and mine was the first year with the fuel injection so except for the aforementioned tranny and changing out injectors like light bulbs, I didn't have much trouble.
Man, what was with those injectors? At one point the guys at a stealership actually slathered RTV all over one, which in retrospect is probably the best possible solution. Still, replaced quite a few before that came up as an option. Mine was the 2+2, but thankfully it was the classic metallic silver. And in my case it was the front end handling that saved my ass. Managed to somehow keep me on the road (barely, I could feel it breaking) on a sweeping entrance ramp at about 3 times the posted limit.

For shits and giggles I went online to see if there were any available (I'd go back to a 260, but I want to stay away from the 300s) and there are, but finding one that is a) not modded out the wazoo and b) reasonably priced for a 35 year old car with miles on it is seemingly impossible.  For some reason, people LOVED swapping out the Japanese engines for some Detroit muscle, and for the life of me, mine didn't need it. That was a fast car as is.
Yeah, they were quick at the time but in retrospect quite underpowered. I suspect gear ratio factored in pretty heavily to their speediness, also. I wouldn't turn it into a muscle car, that's not what it was meant to be, but I'd certainly consider a bit more oomph to bring it up to modern standards. I believe those were 2.5s, NA or turboed, and throwing in a used BMW M52 in that displacement would certainly be a hoot.

This is making me wish I coulda have inherited my Dad's 280. I fucking LOVED that car.
Heh, I got ya beat. My old man drove one of these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opel_GT) for a while. Traded the thing in for a damned Buick Regal. Fuck, maybe I should have left this in the role model thread.  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 25, 2015, 12:48:45 PM
Dayum.


My dad's was black with the red interior. 5 Speed. I don't remember much about it... but I do know it sat for many years due to a charging issue that plagued it for the entire time he owned it. He finally donated it when I was like 12 after my step bitch nagging him to get rid of it. He then turned around and bought a motorcycle. Haha
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Fiery Winds on February 25, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
My dad had a '68 Firebird 400 that he bought from his step-dad. After getting married, he sold it to a young teenager only after the kid's father insisted he was responsible and would take good care of it. 2 weeks later he wrapped it around a tree.  :'(
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on February 25, 2015, 03:06:39 PM
Fuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 25, 2015, 03:26:28 PM
What's the mpg like on that thing?

Hey, sorry for the extremely delayed response.  I haven't been in this thread for a while.  To answer your question, I've been averaging around 15.5 mpg in the city and that's taking it relatively easy through the gears.  It's a 6 speed manual and 5th & 6th are overdrive so I would imagine on a long highway trip, I could get maybe close to 20 mpg.  6th gear at 70 mph is around 2000 rpm's.  Not bad at all for cruising.   :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 25, 2015, 03:38:55 PM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on February 25, 2015, 03:44:14 PM
What's the mpg like on that thing?

Hey, sorry for the extremely delayed response.  I haven't been in this thread for a while.  To answer your question, I've been averaging around 15.5 mpg in the city and that's taking it relatively easy through the gears.  It's a 6 speed manual and 5th & 6th are overdrive so I would imagine on a long highway trip, I could get maybe close to 20 mpg.  6th gear at 70 mph is around 2000 rpm's.  Not bad at all for cruising.   :biggrin:
The city side of that is actually quite good; better than my 325s got. The HWY side is absolutely appalling. Amazed it'd drink that much gas at 2k.

Drove an Audi back from Cali with a CVT and it was pretty strange. From 65-85 sat pretty close to the same 2k RPM (only the gear ratio changes, not the engine speed). Cruising along at 65 it'd show 400 miles range remaining, and then you bump it up to 82 or so and now you're looking at 460 (which you'd never, ever get realistically).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Dublagent66 on February 26, 2015, 11:56:26 AM
Yeah, that 20 mpg hwy estimate is probably on the low side.  Hoping to get closer to 25.  However, I knew going in that gas mileage wasn't at the top of my list anymore.  Especially with a $1,300.00 gas guzzler tax.  This car is all about performance.  Hell, the tires can't even be rotated because they are directional and the rear rims are an inch wider than the front.  I won't be able to realize it's full potential until I get it out on a track and that's expensive in itself.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 02, 2015, 06:13:15 AM
Time for yet another brake job.  I changed the brakes on my wife's Hyundai about a month before we lost our cars to a flood during hurricane Sandy.  Then we replaced it with a Toyota, which got new front brakes after last winter destroyed the roads around here, resulting in a pothole impact that seized one of the calipers.  About a week later, that car got rear ended and was totaled.  Now we have a Volvo, and I've noticed the rear rotors look a bit grooved and rough.  During an oil change I also had the tires rotated, and the mechanic suggested I replace them since they look warped.  I had a mental note to do that at some point, so I decided to order the parts after hearing what he had to say.  I'm not in any rush to do it since the front brakes are fine, and the weather is too damn cold to spend crouched in an icy driveway, but I did order the parts.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 02, 2015, 08:26:12 AM
After what you've described I think I'd rather take my chances with the bad brakes.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on March 02, 2015, 11:34:02 AM
Yeah. I'm not superstitious at all, but damn, all that is enough to make me hesitate on this job.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on March 09, 2015, 07:34:53 AM
I'm really excited about this.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-jeep-grand-wagoneer-confirmed-by-jeep-ceo-87424.html

(http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/new-jeep-grand-wagoneer-confirmed-by-jeep-ceo-87424_1.jpg)

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 20, 2015, 06:52:17 AM
http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/182229/teslas-gone-plaid-ludicrous-mode-for-the-model-s?cid=CS-CNN-HL-182229

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EO and wunderkind Elon Musk just announced its Spaceball One ďLudicrous ModeĒ upgrade for the top-of-the-line P85D Model S electric sedan.

The cars 0-60 time improves by 10%, down to 2.8 seconds
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 20, 2015, 08:13:54 AM
That's awesome.

I think I'll wait till they go to plaid though  ;)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Kotowboy on July 21, 2015, 08:05:26 AM
Came Here to post my dream cars :P

1. Bugatti Veyron
2. Pagani Zonda
3. Dodge Challenger ( the one from Vanishing Point )
4. Delorean ( obviously money no object - i'd give it a complete overhaul from top to bottom )
5. Ariel Atom

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Kotowboy on July 21, 2015, 08:07:27 AM
I drive a fully insured 2001 VW golf, I'm 26 and I only $67 a month. Fairly cheap insurance, my motorcycle insurance is much more.

I was stunned at how cheap it was to tax my 125 for a year

£17 !  :rollin

The insurance was £115 but spread out over a year at £11 a month

I cannot even believe they let me pay my £17 tax in 12 monthly payments of £1.50 a month :lol

The MOT will probably cost the most but whatevs. That's the last thing to pay for in a while.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 21, 2015, 08:41:05 AM
I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.

Ugh. I can't stand those people. Fucking red necks bitching about the new aluminum F150s and how Ford caved to the liberal earth lovers and the elite that want to make vehicles less safe for population control reasons.

You're as predictable as the sun.  :)   One can be a Luddite without being a "conservative". 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 21, 2015, 08:44:19 AM
I should show this to the folks who still think older cars did better in crashes.  Mostly, they compare heavy steel bumpers to new plastic ones.

Ugh. I can't stand those people. Fucking red necks bitching about the new aluminum F150s and how Ford caved to the liberal earth lovers and the elite that want to make vehicles less safe for population control reasons.

You're as predictable as the sun.  :)   One can be a Luddite without being a "conservative".

The sun is pretty unpredictable. I didn't say anything about conservatives.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 21, 2015, 08:47:43 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 21, 2015, 08:57:56 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 21, 2015, 09:54:48 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
And creak, rattle and shake while doing it.  :P
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 21, 2015, 10:19:16 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
And creak, rattle and shake while doing it.  :P

I'll admit, outside of my whole two waterpumps dying before 30k miles, I haven't had a single issue. I'll be passing 70k miles next week.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Cable on July 25, 2015, 02:22:00 AM
So due to personal/family circumstances, I'm dumping a 2014 Subaru Forester for a 2015 Toyota Prius C. The Forester was a great vehicle, but too much car for my needs and interests vs. when I got it. Only complaint with it really was the interior and radio. I feel aesthetically the 4th gens became worse than the 3rd gens with interior.

I'm of course loosing a bit of my shirt on the switch, but the process was easy. And it makes me happier, as I have always wanted a hybrid. The only thing that blows is most of my driving in on the highway  :lol.



Drove an Audi back from Cali with a CVT and it was pretty strange. From 65-85 sat pretty close to the same 2k RPM (only the gear ratio changes, not the engine speed). Cruising along at 65 it'd show 400 miles range remaining, and then you bump it up to 82 or so and now you're looking at 460 (which you'd never, ever get realistically).

The Forester had it, and an older car my wife had used one. While I am a fan of the concept and how they work, it's a bit false advertising IMO. And I don't know why they cannot have lower RPM's after 55mph if it is truly Continuously Variable. It's a concept that continues to elude me on car makers- why is 55 the optimal speed for mileage vs. 65mph or greater. The interstate speed limits for most states outside of urban areas has been 65+ for decades now. Most people stick to interstates vs. state roads/routes that are 55.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mrrct on July 25, 2015, 11:43:46 AM
Part of the problem with the Fox body Mustangs of the eighties and early nineties was the hatchback configuration.  The fastback coupes that followed (I had a 2000 and currently have a 2011) do not have (in my experience) the creaks, rattles, and shakes that the hatchbacks had (I also had a Fox body Mercury Capri).

Yes, it's true that the pushrod Windsor V-8s were low in horsepower (peaking at 225 from 1987 to 1991), but they also had 300 lb-ft torque, all available at a fairly low rpm compared to the OHC Modular engines, so they weren't lacking in every-day driving power.  Top speed, 0-to-60, or quarter mile times doesn't matter for most people, 30-70 times merging onto the highway is probably the most important performance factor in automobiles. 

My 2011 V-6 has 305 hp, which is plenty by most people's standards, but it doesn't feel like that much.  I've driven many pushrod V-8s with less hp, and they would have probably been better merging than my OHC Stang because of the full torque being available at a lower rpm.  It also doesn't really take off until I reach highway speed, with 0-60 being about average, but then once I'm there, it gets up to 90 in the blink of an eye if you're not careful.

Someone earlier in this thread complained about the transmission (automatic, I assume) on Mustangs.  Mine seems like it has a little difficulty staying at 6th gear (Overdrive) unless it is in cruise control, and seems to slip back and forth between 5th and 6th.  It's just a minor annoyance, since I normally use cruise for highway driving anyway.  I think that 90% of Mustang (and Camaro, Challenger buyers) buy these cars for the styling, and they aren't going to use the backseat for anything but their coats or briefcases/backpacks anyway.  Performance isn't that much of a factor in their decision to buy these cars.

I just read an article in C** And Dr**** (not sure if we're allowed to use magazine names here) that totally trashes the EcoBoost 4-cylinder.  Ford is forcing it on people by making the V-6 only available in Spartan, entry-level Mustangs with no options.  Despite having 10 fewer horsepower (which might be a marketing ploy and not really accurate), the six still outperforms the four in just about every performance measurement, and the savings in mileage isn't as good as it was supposed to be.  Plus, you'll probably have to replace your exhaust manifolds in 50,000 miles, like people who bought the EcoBoost six in F-series pickups instead of the Coyote V-8 are finding out.

While I don't want to eliminate the EPA or anything like that, I do believe that CAFE is killing the automobile industry.  Gas is expensive in the U.S., but nothing like it is in Europe, where it costs about four times as much as it does here, once the gallon to liter and dollar to euro conversions are made.  Ford was unable to offer an automatic in their Shelby and Boss 302 Mustangs because they would have sold too many and it would have hurt their CAFE numbers (although not too many people would have probably bought automatic Boss 302s, but the sixties Shelbys were always available with autos).  And other than the low-volume supercharged 6.2L in the Cadillac CTS, the regular LS3 engine was never available in the midline CTS (where most people would have probably chosen it if it were an option) or the RWD STS (which would have been an improvement from the mediocre optional Northstar) from the mid-2000s, probably because they would have sold too many.  I don't know how Chrysler isn't getting killed by the government because they don't sell a lot of Darts and 200s, and are still able to sell SRT 6.4s and single-digit-city mileage 707 hp Hellcats, even in tiny numbers.

Ford really screwed up with their EcoBoost program, whereas GM and Chrysler were smarter developing cylinder deactivation technology and beating Ford with eight-speed automatics compared to Ford's six-speeds.  The EcoBoost engines, with the exception of the 3.5L six (in the Taurus SHO and Lincolns, anyway) aren't particularly powerful and the mileage has been mostly less than expected.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2015, 11:54:04 AM


Drove an Audi back from Cali with a CVT and it was pretty strange. From 65-85 sat pretty close to the same 2k RPM (only the gear ratio changes, not the engine speed). Cruising along at 65 it'd show 400 miles range remaining, and then you bump it up to 82 or so and now you're looking at 460 (which you'd never, ever get realistically).

The Forester had it, and an older car my wife had used one. While I am a fan of the concept and how they work, it's a bit false advertising IMO. And I don't know why they cannot have lower RPM's after 55mph if it is truly Continuously Variable. It's a concept that continues to elude me on car makers- why is 55 the optimal speed for mileage vs. 65mph or greater. The interstate speed limits for most states outside of urban areas has been 65+ for decades now. Most people stick to interstates vs. state roads/routes that are 55.
It's not about optimizing the speed, but rather the engine speed. Ideally with a CVT you want the car to remain in the peak spot of its powerband. It would appear that 2k is the sweet spot in that car providing the most power/fuel. That tranny would keep it there through about 35mph on the highway. It didn't start creeping up until 85 or so. All that said, I really never noticed much of a benefit MPG wise. Got about the same mileage as any other 6-banger I've owned.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 25, 2015, 12:41:33 PM
No shit, in the coincidence department, but yesterday I was taking my daughter to camp and at the stop light, a late-70's black Trans-am with the gold hood decal and everything drove by me.  It appeared to be in great shape, though it was driven by what looked to be a soccer mom.  :)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Cable on July 25, 2015, 04:01:24 PM


Drove an Audi back from Cali with a CVT and it was pretty strange. From 65-85 sat pretty close to the same 2k RPM (only the gear ratio changes, not the engine speed). Cruising along at 65 it'd show 400 miles range remaining, and then you bump it up to 82 or so and now you're looking at 460 (which you'd never, ever get realistically).

The Forester had it, and an older car my wife had used one. While I am a fan of the concept and how they work, it's a bit false advertising IMO. And I don't know why they cannot have lower RPM's after 55mph if it is truly Continuously Variable. It's a concept that continues to elude me on car makers- why is 55 the optimal speed for mileage vs. 65mph or greater. The interstate speed limits for most states outside of urban areas has been 65+ for decades now. Most people stick to interstates vs. state roads/routes that are 55.
It's not about optimizing the speed, but rather the engine speed. Ideally with a CVT you want the car to remain in the peak spot of its powerband. It would appear that 2k is the sweet spot in that car providing the most power/fuel. That tranny would keep it there through about 35mph on the highway. It didn't start creeping up until 85 or so. All that said, I really never noticed much of a benefit MPG wise. Got about the same mileage as any other 6-banger I've owned.


I think the Forester went beyond 2k RPMS after 55mph, so is probably different for each car maker. Sounds like yours was a solid one. Then again, I expect better performance and tuning from an Audi vs. a generic Subaru (not counted the Impreza WRX STI).

Yeah, they are very minimal in MPG improvements. The previous gen Forester had a traditional gear transmission, and the CVT one only got about 2 MPG better in the city. And that can be accounted for in other areas too due to the redesign.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2015, 04:54:07 PM
Higher RPM doesn't necessarily mean worse mileage, though. It's entirely possible that the sweet spot in that Suburu was at 2500. Both of my BMWs hit their stride at 3k, and running it less than that was inefficient in the long run.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 25, 2015, 05:01:20 PM
No shit, in the coincidence department, but yesterday I was taking my daughter to camp and at the stop light, a late-70's black Trans-am with the gold hood decal and everything drove by me.  It appeared to be in great shape, though it was driven by what looked to be a soccer mom.  :)
I throw SatB on from time to time, including a couple of months ago. It's funny that the 77 Black Edition was such hot shit back in the day, and at this point it might as well be your mom's astrovan.  :lol

Absolutely gorgeous car, though. Man, talk about style.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 26, 2015, 10:28:06 PM
Help, my check engine light has been on for about 24 hours. What does it mean?!? I'm afraid whatever the problem is, it will leave me broke. On the bright side, I just finally paid off my car last month :D
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 26, 2015, 11:15:50 PM
Help, my check engine light has been on for about 24 hours. What does it mean?!? I'm afraid whatever the problem is, it will leave me broke. On the bright side, I just finally paid off my car last month :D
Not sure what sort of car it is but if it's anything halfway modern and not particularly exotic the minions at Autozone will pull the codes for free and tell you what the trouble is. Then you can decide what to do (and ignoring it is often an option).  Most likely culprit is the O2 sensor (got one of those on, myself). Honestly, most CEL problems turn out to be pretty minor. There are a ton of car problems worth losing sleep over but CELs aren't really one of them.

Until you do get it looked into you might keep an eye out for some sort of limp mode. If there's something actually wrong then the car might hobble itself so that you can drive (limp) home or to a garage, but not out to run a day's worth of errands. For a CEL it might be something like refusing to exceed 2k RPM. My E36 would also shut off the AC in limp mode. Transmission limp modes like to lock you into 2nd and 5th gear. Either way you get s sluggish ride to safety but that's about all.

Just don't worry much about it. Get it fixed at some point pretty soon, be mindful of the car behaving strangely until then and you'll be fine. I really can't think of much that'll throw a CEL that would cost too much.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 27, 2015, 06:47:23 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
And creak, rattle and shake while doing it.  :P

I'll admit, outside of my whole two waterpumps dying before 30k miles, I haven't had a single issue. I'll be passing 70k miles next week.

I spoke to soon. I have a loaner right now. My Mini went into the dealer on Saturday because of a check engine light and no power. There's a very noticeable shaking when the car is idling, and there was no umph under 4k rpm.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 27, 2015, 07:50:12 AM
Oh Minis.  Lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2015, 09:31:10 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
And creak, rattle and shake while doing it.  :P

I'll admit, outside of my whole two waterpumps dying before 30k miles, I haven't had a single issue. I'll be passing 70k miles next week.

I spoke to soon. I have a loaner right now. My Mini went into the dealer on Saturday because of a check engine light and no power. There's a very noticeable shaking when the car is idling, and there was no umph under 4k rpm.
DTF presents: You Make The Call.

You're definitely missing a cylinder. Causes it to shake at idle and lag something mighty under a load (accelerating up to higher RPMs). As for the cause, my customary first guess is a bad coil pack. Could be anything, though. Seems those cars are prone to a very rapid buildup of carbon deposits. If that's the case I'd take it to somebody that isn't a dealer and have it dealt with on the cheap. Very likely that a $14 can of Seafoam would straighten it right up.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 27, 2015, 10:43:57 AM
It's funny how wimpy a lot of those older cars were compared to modern ones. My old man's Opel would get blown away by an Astrovan nowadays. Our Z cars wouldn't fair much better. Yet some of them are so stylish it's ridiculous. Bandit's '77 Black Edition TA is so fucking cool it belongs in a museum, yet it was pretty pedestrian, honestly.

That's the thing, though; those old cars had SWAG.  I don't know what it is, though I suspect it's the same thing that makes the Astrovan a challenge; they get designed by man but optimized - read:  homogenized - by computer. 

They can make some of those engines so much smaller and more efficient these days.   I remember my Dad had a 'Vette with a 454 in it ('67?  '69?); that's INSANE, and totally unnecessary to get the same performance today.

The 5.0L mustangs from the 90s made just over 200HP and had crap fuel economy. Today, Mini can squeeze nearly 230HP out of a 1.5L and still average 33mpg.
And creak, rattle and shake while doing it.  :P

I'll admit, outside of my whole two waterpumps dying before 30k miles, I haven't had a single issue. I'll be passing 70k miles next week.

I spoke to soon. I have a loaner right now. My Mini went into the dealer on Saturday because of a check engine light and no power. There's a very noticeable shaking when the car is idling, and there was no umph under 4k rpm.
DTF presents: You Make The Call.

You're definitely missing a cylinder. Causes it to shake at idle and lag something mighty under a load (accelerating up to higher RPMs). As for the cause, my customary first guess is a bad coil pack. Could be anything, though. Seems those cars are prone to a very rapid buildup of carbon deposits. If that's the case I'd take it to somebody that isn't a dealer and have it dealt with on the cheap. Very likely that a $14 can of Seafoam would straighten it right up.

The dealer fucked me in the ass today. You're spot on.

I brought it in on Saturday (already had an unrelated service appointment scheduled) with the light on and told them the problem. I authorized them to do a diagnostic at the sweet price of $135. Got a call a little while ago that all four of my plugs are shot and one wasn't functioning at all. Carbon buildup is a bitch in those little 4-bangers. I gave it the seafoam treatment at 25K and 50K miles just to be safe.

Had I not had to go in for the service appointment, I probably wouldn't have even bothered bringing it to the dealer. I would have gone to a shop in town. There is a big perk about going to the dealer though. I can can a loaner if I need to. If the shop in town has my car for a week, I don't have a car for a week. The money I had to spend today is a little easier to swallow when I consider that I got to put 400 miles on someone else's car at no extra expense to me.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 27, 2015, 12:01:41 PM
So how'd the dealer fuck you? What's their recommendation? You've seafoamed it twice and still have carbon deposits? A one week rental will cost you less than the difference between a local mech and a dealer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 28, 2015, 09:45:26 AM
I'll give the brief version.

1) My car was due for a scheduled service appointment.
2) The day before that my car lost power on the highway. It could still drive, but it hit a wall at 55mph and sounded like shit.
3) The car was at the dealership and I was told the plugs were shot and one was no longer functioning. I saw them and they looked terrible.
4) Convinced that that was the problem, and I'd have to tow the car home to do it myself (on top of paying the $135 diagnostic fee), I authorized them to give me all new plugs and a tune up for a whopping $387.
5) I picked the car up and got about 50 feet down the road before the issue came back and the engine light re-illuminated.
6) Brought the car back and took the loaner for another day.
7) Just got a call that my coil pack died. I guess it's normally about $250 with labor to replace, but they are giving it to me for $105 for the inconvenience.

Either way, I'm still a good $500 into this repair.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 28, 2015, 10:02:44 AM
I'd want to know why the plugs looked so bad.  All in all, assuming they applied the diagnostic charge to the tune up it doesn't sound all that unreasonable for dealership work. Although I'd certainly want to know what all they put into the tune-up.

And it sounds to me like they just charged you for the coil and waived the labor (all of 15 minutes anyway). A buck-fifteen seems to be pretty normal for those things.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 28, 2015, 10:08:29 AM
I'd want to know why the plugs looked so bad.  All in all, assuming they applied the diagnostic charge to the tune up it doesn't sound all that unreasonable for dealership work. Although I'd certainly want to know what all they put into the tune-up.

And it sounds to me like they just charged you for the coil and waived the labor (all of 15 minutes anyway). A buck-fifteen seems to be pretty normal for those things.

They were the original plugs with 70k miles on them. I thought they got replaced at 50k miles, but I guess not.

I'm not sure about everything the tuneup includes. I know I'm getting new transmission and brake fluid and they'll be checking the condition of all my belts and chains. I'm pretty sure new wipers all around are including that as well. The diagnostic charge was applied to the tune up. I'm less upset today than I was yesterday. Despite having to shell out more money, I feel like I'm getting a better deal.

Is a coil pack just the modern name for a distributor?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 28, 2015, 10:21:22 AM
They fill the same role (firing the plugs) but are very different things. In older cars there was one or two coils and then a distributor which sent current to each plug in sequence. In modern cars each plug has its own coil and the ECU tells it when to fire. Definitely more efficient and effective, but in the old days your points wore down and you slapped a new distributor/rotor into the car for $20. Nowadays you've got 4 to 12 coil packs in there which run you $100+ when they fail. Once your car gets old enough that you're not hung up on new, factory parts you start buying them used on eBay.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 28, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
Help, my check engine light has been on for about 24 hours. What does it mean?!? I'm afraid whatever the problem is, it will leave me broke. On the bright side, I just finally paid off my car last month :D
Not sure what sort of car it is but if it's anything halfway modern and not particularly exotic the minions at Autozone will pull the codes for free and tell you what the trouble is. Then you can decide what to do (and ignoring it is often an option).  Most likely culprit is the O2 sensor (got one of those on, myself). Honestly, most CEL problems turn out to be pretty minor. There are a ton of car problems worth losing sleep over but CELs aren't really one of them.

Until you do get it looked into you might keep an eye out for some sort of limp mode. If there's something actually wrong then the car might hobble itself so that you can drive (limp) home or to a garage, but not out to run a day's worth of errands. For a CEL it might be something like refusing to exceed 2k RPM. My E36 would also shut off the AC in limp mode. Transmission limp modes like to lock you into 2nd and 5th gear. Either way you get s sluggish ride to safety but that's about all.

Just don't worry much about it. Get it fixed at some point pretty soon, be mindful of the car behaving strangely until then and you'll be fine. I really can't think of much that'll throw a CEL that would cost too much.

Thanks! It's an '06 Impala, btw.
So the light went off last night, but I took it in today anyway because it's been feeling kind of funny (not quite accelerating the way it should and running more loudly than usual, mostly). Apparently the check engine light had been on due to the fuel being too rich? I still don't quite understand this concept but read up a bit on it.
I do need a new muffler, which I've known for a while (well, I knew I would need one soon) because it has some holes in it. So he's replacing the muffler, which won't come til tomorrow morning- huge pain in the ass in my line of work, with me having to be driven around by other people.
He also said this probably doesn't need immediate attention, but the catalytic converter is loose and "going bad," whatever that means, and some other stuff that was like a foreign language. Right now the plan is to replace the muffler tomorrow afternoon and then drive it around about ten miles to see how it's running and clean things out a bit because of the whole "rich" thing. Then I may have to come back to get whatever else fixed down the road when it gets worse. The muffler work is going to be about $280. Could be a lot worse!
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 28, 2015, 05:28:42 PM
Help, my check engine light has been on for about 24 hours. What does it mean?!? I'm afraid whatever the problem is, it will leave me broke. On the bright side, I just finally paid off my car last month :D
Not sure what sort of car it is but if it's anything halfway modern and not particularly exotic the minions at Autozone will pull the codes for free and tell you what the trouble is. Then you can decide what to do (and ignoring it is often an option).  Most likely culprit is the O2 sensor (got one of those on, myself). Honestly, most CEL problems turn out to be pretty minor. There are a ton of car problems worth losing sleep over but CELs aren't really one of them.

Until you do get it looked into you might keep an eye out for some sort of limp mode. If there's something actually wrong then the car might hobble itself so that you can drive (limp) home or to a garage, but not out to run a day's worth of errands. For a CEL it might be something like refusing to exceed 2k RPM. My E36 would also shut off the AC in limp mode. Transmission limp modes like to lock you into 2nd and 5th gear. Either way you get s sluggish ride to safety but that's about all.

Just don't worry much about it. Get it fixed at some point pretty soon, be mindful of the car behaving strangely until then and you'll be fine. I really can't think of much that'll throw a CEL that would cost too much.

Thanks! It's an '06 Impala, btw.
So the light went off last night, but I took it in today anyway because it's been feeling kind of funny (not quite accelerating the way it should and running more loudly than usual, mostly). Apparently the check engine light had been on due to the fuel being too rich? I still don't quite understand this concept but read up a bit on it.
I do need a new muffler, which I've known for a while (well, I knew I would need one soon) because it has some holes in it. So he's replacing the muffler, which won't come til tomorrow morning- huge pain in the ass in my line of work, with me having to be driven around by other people.
He also said this probably doesn't need immediate attention, but the catalytic converter is loose and "going bad," whatever that means, and some other stuff that was like a foreign language. Right now the plan is to replace the muffler tomorrow afternoon and then drive it around about ten miles to see how it's running and clean things out a bit because of the whole "rich" thing. Then I may have to come back to get whatever else fixed down the road when it gets worse. The muffler work is going to be about $280. Could be a lot worse!
Ya might be putting the cart before the horse. If the car is running rich it can cause all sorts of failures (eventually--nothing immediately dangerous) including damaging the exhaust. The cat in particular, and those things aren't as cheap as mufflers. In any event, that CEL will leave codes in the computer telling a mechanic what was going on, even if the light is now out. Somebody should be able to pull those codes and tell you exactly why it's running rich, and it probably won't be anything too bad. Then you can get that fixed and save further troubles down the road.  It's also possible that just a simple tune-up will solve your fuel problem, and will likely need to be done anyway (your plugs are probably bad now). However I wouldn't do that until you have all of the pertinent information.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 28, 2015, 11:10:56 PM
Thanks. I will be going in there with a fucking notebook tomorrow to try and make sense of all this  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 29, 2015, 06:57:59 PM
Sooo my muffler was replaced but I will need a new catalytic converter. That is the reason for the CEL and the fuel running rich. Apparently there are little pieces that come loose and plug the muffler/restrict airflow. He said it's supposed to be heating up 100 degrees but instead is cooling down 10? I don't fully get it, but that's the story.
I thought that I could survive until my next paycheck before dealing with that $700+ bill, but about ten minutes after I left the shop the light went back on and the car felt even worse than when I had brought it in. I called and the guy explained that yeah, it could fluctuate and get a bit better, but it could also just keep getting worse until it's replaced. So I told him to go ahead and order the part and it should be here in the next few days. Oy vey, my wallet.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 30, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
Life is punishing you for going to Alaska.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 30, 2015, 01:05:16 PM
Sooo my muffler was replaced but I will need a new catalytic converter. That is the reason for the CEL and the fuel running rich. Apparently there are little pieces that come loose and plug the muffler/restrict airflow. He said it's supposed to be heating up 100 degrees but instead is cooling down 10? I don't fully get it, but that's the story.
I thought that I could survive until my next paycheck before dealing with that $700+ bill, but about ten minutes after I left the shop the light went back on and the car felt even worse than when I had brought it in. I called and the guy explained that yeah, it could fluctuate and get a bit better, but it could also just keep getting worse until it's replaced. So I told him to go ahead and order the part and it should be here in the next few days. Oy vey, my wallet.
I'll be curious to see if that resolves your mixture problem. I still think you're going to be putting an O2 sensor in there before it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 30, 2015, 08:41:19 PM
He said the O2 sensor is okay itself but isn't working properly because it's behind the catalytic converter so it's not registering the way it should and it locked up. Does that make sense to you? Again, all foreign language to me  :lol

The CEL went on and then off again today but I noticed my car driving a lot better as the day went on, so he was right about the fluctuation thing...
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 30, 2015, 09:09:16 PM
Yeah, it actually does make sense. At the same time, this just seems like an odd sequence of events to me. I've had cats fail after years of deterioration so that eventually it won't pass an emissions test. For one to go so categorically bad that it disrupts the running of the car isn't an experience I'm familiar with. Moreover, running particularly rich is a surefire way to hasten the death of one. What you said in your last post is plausible, though, if a it strange to me.

Regardless, hope it works out.


edit: a tiny bit of googling says that yours is indeed a common problem. Chevy just used shitty cats, by the looks of it. Bummer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: bout to crash on July 30, 2015, 09:16:38 PM
Well, that makes sense then. I've also beaten the SHIT out of this car since I got it five years ago. I've put something like 87,000 miles on it driving around for work all day and taking epic road trips. I'm surprised it hasn't cost me more money up until this point, TBH. Usually it's just an expensive brake job every once in a while, and the one time I totally fucked up my wheel hitting a curb. Mr. Humbert has been very good to me  :heart
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on September 15, 2015, 07:30:39 AM
Looks like Tesla has it's first major competitor.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/220c660c-5b2c-11e5-a28b-50226830d644.html#axzz3ljHmtSLP

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The worldís biggest carmakers have made a fresh show of commitment to electric vehicles, with Volkswagen unveiling a battery-powered Porsche capable of travelling 500km on a single charge and refuelling to almost full in 15 minutes.

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Though it loses out to the Model S in terms of acceleration ó doing 0-60mph in 3.5 seconds, versus less than 3 seconds for Tesla ó the charging time is impressive. Porsche says it can reach an 80 per cent charge of electrical energy in only 15 minutes.
The car is only at the concept phase, but Porsche ó which is owned by VW ó said it would decide by the end of the year whether to bring the car into production.
Concerns overshadow show
Range Rover Production At Jaguar Land Rover Plc's Halewood Factory...Employees work on a Range Rover Evoque SUV automobile, produced by Jaguar Land Rover Plc, a unit of Tata Motors Ltd., as it travels along the production line at the company's assembly plant in Halewood, U.K., on Wednesday, Feb. 13, 2013. Carmakers from Ford Motor Co. to Audi AG and Jaguar Land Rover Plc are using record amounts of aluminium to replace heavier steel, providing relief to producers of the metal confronting excess supplies and depressed prices. Photographer: Simon Dawson/Bloomberg
By far the dominant concern in Frankfurt will be China.Falling sales in China are taking a toll on the jumbo pricing and outsized margins that carmakers have been enjoying in the country for several years.
VW also used its traditional eve-of-show party to display a similarly capable electric vehicle under its Audi brand. The e-tron quattro, teased several weeks ago, is a sport utility vehicle that can also do 310 miles and boasts no less than three electric motors.
Again, the car is only at the concept stage, but VW promises it will be delivered by early 2018.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on March 19, 2016, 09:46:49 AM
This is just insane, I love the Agera

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SywqgH7n-5g
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 19, 2016, 12:28:49 PM
I guess if you can afford the car you can afford to trash $2,400 worth of tires in a single afternoon impressing chicks.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on April 01, 2016, 06:31:21 AM
115,000 preorders in the first 3 hours. 

Starting price of $35,000 and autopilot comes standard on even the most base models. I would lovvve it if Tesla released a mid-sized pickup.

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Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on August 15, 2016, 11:55:16 AM
I own a 2007 Volvo V50.  There was some suspension noise and I knew I needed to replace the control arms (the ball joints and bushings are integral to the control arm).  I have an account on All Data DIY, which is just an online service manual with lots of great info.  I bought OEM parts online from a volvo parts seller, and drove to my mother's house to have access to a garage and my tools.  After some difficulty in the heat and rain last week, I removed the old arms and began to install the new ones.  With the passenger side installed, I begin the driver side only to realize that I was sent two passenger side control arms.  Now what?!  I checked the packing list and the parts themselves when the arrived, but I didnt actually take them out and place them side by side to make sure I had a matching pair.  The other "passenger" side was labeled with the driver side part number so I concluded that this was not my error.  The online seller sent me a return label to ship the wrong part for a refund, but the correct part wouldn't arrive for 2 days since I called them after normal working hours.  I decided I didn't want to wait, so the next morning I went to my local Volvo dealer who said they had it in stock.  When I arrived, the guy pulled the part and put it on the counter, and I scratched my head for a minute since I swore it looked like the passenger side.  He insisted it was the driver side since the part number matched his database, but I then asked him to pull the passenger side part.  Lo and behold, they were the same!  Now I realized that it was a good thing I was able to lay my hands on the part because there was a good chance the "correct" one being shipped to me was also wrong.  There must be hundreds or thousands of them mislabeled for me to encounter this problem on the first 2 randomly selected parts from different areas of the country.  So I drive back to my mother's (using her car that I stole for the night) and put on the correct part.  This error wound up costing me about $100 more than it should have, and I will contact Volvo corporate to see if I can get some credit or something.  Since both parts would have fit the passenger side, it is fortunate that i installed the one with the correct part number, otherwise I would have to try returning a correctly labeled part.

tl;dr, I bought driver and passenger side parts from an online seller.  Received two passenger side parts, one with a driver side part number.  Encountered the same problem at a local parts dealer and realized this is some factory screw up.  Cost me about $100 and a day without my car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on August 15, 2016, 03:48:26 PM
That's a drag. I know the folks at the local BMW dealer can be pretty flaky with parts and numbers. One guy told me flat out that a part didn't exist for my car. I found the part number, called him up and ordered it the next day. I had another guy quote me $48/ea for spark plugs, which is so over the top there had to be something screwed up in their system. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: SystematicThought on August 15, 2016, 07:11:45 PM
Sold my 2004 Ford Ranger and bought a 2014 Ford F-150. I checked back on the dealership to see what they were selling my Ranger for and they want $10,000 for it. I paid 8000 for it two years ago. I took really good care of it though and it essentially looks new
http://www.hudsonford.com/used/Ford/2004-Ford-Ranger-hudson-wi-5d81f77f0a0e0ae8595b246c4dd6a2ae.htm?searchDepth=1:2 (http://www.hudsonford.com/used/Ford/2004-Ford-Ranger-hudson-wi-5d81f77f0a0e0ae8595b246c4dd6a2ae.htm?searchDepth=1:2)

I'm really happy with my F150 though. It's fun to drive and I love having all of that room.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 16, 2016, 07:15:08 AM
Sold my 2004 Ford Ranger and bought a 2014 Ford F-150. I checked back on the dealership to see what they were selling my Ranger for and they want $10,000 for it. I paid 8000 for it two years ago. I took really good care of it though and it essentially looks new
http://www.hudsonford.com/used/Ford/2004-Ford-Ranger-hudson-wi-5d81f77f0a0e0ae8595b246c4dd6a2ae.htm?searchDepth=1:2 (http://www.hudsonford.com/used/Ford/2004-Ford-Ranger-hudson-wi-5d81f77f0a0e0ae8595b246c4dd6a2ae.htm?searchDepth=1:2)

I'm really happy with my F150 though. It's fun to drive and I love having all of that room.

I'd love to get a F-150. I've also had my eye on the Chevy Colorado, the new body style is gorgeous.

Now I just need to convince my wife to let me buy a truck...  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on August 16, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
I'm still amazed that the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the US.  Something like one sold every 40 seconds in 2015.  How many people actually use them to their capability, rather than commuting to their office job and towing a bass boat twice a year?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mikeyd23 on August 16, 2016, 07:32:25 AM
I see F-150s on the highway everyday commuting back and forth into my office park I work in all the time. Most often they are in immaculate condition and look like they have heard seen a hard days work. I think I read somewhere F-150s are the most bought car of millionaries, so clearly not everyone is buying one to haul a trailer or a boat or work a trade.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on August 16, 2016, 07:47:31 AM
I'm still amazed that the F150 is the best selling vehicle in the US.  Something like one sold every 40 seconds in 2015.  How many people actually use them to their capability, rather than commuting to their office job and towing a bass boat twice a year?

That's because they are the standard government vehicle for pretty much any utility. The town I grew up in had a fleet of about 20 of them. They'd get replaced every 6-10 years. Some had plows and sanders, others were used for landscaping the parks, the police had some, etc.. When every town in the nation buys your product for contracting and work related matters, you're going to have serious numbers. If you took the F-150s purchased with tax payer money out of the equation, the numbers would be nowhere near as high.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: SystematicThought on August 16, 2016, 08:17:41 PM
I can 100% honestly say I'm not a millionaire nor a construction worker. :lol I just have always liked trucks and love driving them. I like sitting up high and the space, man the space is awesome. I haul a decent amount of stuff in the summer for our gardens at home. And it's nice for these long Minnesota winters.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mike099 on August 17, 2016, 01:32:56 PM
Kids remember what you say.

When I bought my 2007 Honda Ridgeline in 2012 my oldest granddaughter was 6.  She commented how she loved my truck.  I told her in passing that she could have the truck when she got her permit.  Well 5 years later and she still remembers about my passing promise.  My wife said that I will have to give up the truck or break her heart.

Damn, I guess that I am obligated.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on August 17, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Kids remember what you say.

My parents have a hutch in their dining room that they've had since before I was born. When I was 4 or 5 my dad told me he'd give me $2 every time he accidentally left the key out if I returned it to him. I think it was to keep tabs on the key because I liked to play with it. Every holiday he leaves the key out some place, and now 22 years later, I still try to milk him for the $2 every time I find it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on August 18, 2016, 07:32:34 PM
Kids remember what you say.

My parents have a hutch in their dining room that they've had since before I was born. When I was 4 or 5 my dad told me he'd give me $2 every time he accidentally left the key out if I returned it to him. I think it was to keep tabs on the key because I liked to play with it. Every holiday he leaves the key out some place, and now 22 years later, I still try to milk him for the $2 every time I find it.



:lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Cable on October 11, 2016, 04:08:42 PM
This can be tied to music too; I just finished most of my car audio install. I put in a new head/radio/amp unit, replaced all six speakers (two tweeters, four 3-ways), and added subwoofer (amp+speaker all-in-one). I need to install a universal adapter to re-enable my steering wheel audio controls, and lastly add a rear camera. I am very pleased, as I have heard minimal distortion if at all at too loud volumes. The subwoofer has been the most welcome part, as I have never had one and certainly is a fun addition. I feel like a 16 year old at times.  ;D

Has anyone every replaced car seats? The cushioning on mine are garbage, and I rather go for a faux leather anyway. Throughout my looking, to me it seems there are A) hardly any options, and B) the ones available are way too expensive. Is it better just to get them reupholstered in a different covering, and have someone add better padding?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on October 11, 2016, 04:20:11 PM
I don't know much aboit car seats, but confirm whether or not there are airbags in them before you do anything! Depending on the car, if there was a leather option available, you could probably pull them out of a junker in a yard.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 09:51:09 AM
Man, cops love exaggerating the deeds of bad actors.
http://www.foxnews.com/auto/2016/11/16/oklahoma-speeder-caught-at-208-mph.html

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An Oklahoma man was arrested on Saturday after leading police on a 208 mph chase.

Nineteen-year-old Hector Fraire first tripped a radar gun doing 84 mph on the Kilpatrick Turnpike in Oklahoma City, before speeding away as police tried to pull him over.

According to the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, Fraireís 2011 Ford Mustang was then clocked doing 176 mph and 208 mph, and tried to elude the chase vehicle by turning off his headlights and brake lights.

He finally stopped his car at a red light, dropped his keys out of the window, and was arrested and later charged with reckless driving and felony eluding.

Assuming the kid reprogrammed the mustang to remove the 155 limit, the car would have had to be pretty heavily modified to even hit 176. Certainly a lot of aerodynamic work. There's no chance that he could get that thing up to 208. Two hundred is the rarefied air of Callaway vettes and 911 turbo S. Also, how'd he turn off the tail lights? Did he reach down under the wheel and pull the fuse? Reprogram the CANBus while he was driving? What kind of car is Johnny Law driving that would allow him to keep up? Pork-choppers are far too slow, and the POS Camaros highway patrols always buy certainly aren't going to cut it.

Also, I've driven that turnpike, and it's an exceptional place to drive that fast. He endangered nobody but himself driving at night, honestly. Why bother chasing him at that point? There comes a point where you turn mother's picture to the wall and get out. A chase that goes that fast qualifies.

The reason these sorts of things interest me is because Johnny always likes to come out on top. "He completely lost us and there was nothing we could do about it. Thankfully he gave himself up" doesn't really fit the desired narrative. If you can't make it appear that you bagged him you exaggerate the acts he committed. There's a legendary video in BMW circles of a kid who thoroughly outclassed some highway patrol guys in his dad's E30 M3. It was on one of the "America's greatest pursuits" shows, and that pompous douchebag John Bunnell did everything he could to build the cops up, despite the video portraying them pretty poorly. They finally slowed the video down to a stop to make it look like the kid's "Teutonic hotrod" broke down so they could nab him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mw3EMKkqO8
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 16, 2016, 10:10:06 AM
Just playing devil's advocate here.

It said that he was clocked at 176 and 208, not that the cop chasing him was going that fast to keep up. They could have had other cops ahead waiting or acting like an intimidating roadblock that got him on an additional radar gun. But at those speeds, that kid is covering a mile every 15-20 seconds. The responding officers down way would have had to react really quickly (unless they were all already out).

As for the lights being turned off, that's not really uncommon. My old roommate had a beast of a 2002 Trans Am. Got about 4.5mpg and would do a burnout at 90. He threw a bored out LS1 race motor in it and put a 10 bolt rear dif on. He spliced the wires running to his brake lights and ran them to secondary switch hidden in his center console. He could turn them off at will for the sole purpose of out running police.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 11:25:45 AM
If he installed a cutoff switch for the tail lights I commend him for his ingenuity. Not sure why he would have just given up if his car was modified specifically to run from Johnny, though.  However, I still call bullshit on the story. The likelihood of Johnny embellishing is far greater than the likelihood of him actually being able to do what they claim.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 16, 2016, 11:40:36 AM
Ran out of gas?  :lol

I hear you though. Wouldn't be surprised for a second if this got stretched a bunch. I tried running from the police once heading north on Rt. 63. I drove it daily and was certain there was a dirt road a half mile or so ahead that I could turn down. It ended up not existing. I pulled over and let the guy catch up to me.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Hyperplex on November 16, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
Fastest I've ever taken a car was on a straight stretch of Rt 29 in Maple Lawn, on my way to Silver Spring. There's a stop light on the stretch at the top of a hill that lets you see way far down and ahead, so you can get a good scan to see if there are officers clocking or anything. Anyway, when the light went green I decided I was just going to push and see how fast I could go before I either had to slow down or at least felt I had to. I took it up to 131mph before deciding the car felt light enough on its tires and that I didn't want to take anymore chances with my life. Highly exhilirating.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 11:56:36 AM
Ran out of gas?  :lol

I hear you though. Wouldn't be surprised for a second if this got stretched a bunch. I tried running from the police once heading north on Rt. 63. I drove it daily and was certain there was a dirt road a half mile or so ahead that I could turn down. It ended up not existing. I pulled over and let the guy catch up to me.
I've lost plenty of cops, but none who had lit me up yet. Generally it's that I see them turn to come after me and I hide myself PDQ. It's actually surprisingly easy to do.

A few years ago I kept a cop from seeing my inspection/registration stickers close up for quite a long while by constantly driving away from him. He was facing me from across an intersection we were both stopped at, and his partner saw my stickers from a remarkable distance. I used a flower delivery van to block me after the light changed. He turned after me and proceeded to try and confirm their expiry. I used other traffic to keep him from getting in front of me for a while. When we came to the next intersection there was a ton of traffic in the middle lane, some traffic in the left lane, and none in the right. He tried to pass me on the left to get at my stickers, and at the last minute I pealed away to the right leaving him completely boxed in as I casually drove off perpendicular to him, laughing my ass off at having schooled him. Some how, some way he pulled some T-1000 shit and wound up back behind me again; I have no idea how he did it. Just as he started to pass me on the right I was going to turn left into a Lowes, but finally decided that I was going to genuinely piss these guys off (and back then Dallas Constables were the biggest maniacs in the county) so I let them catch me. Lot of fun. After he wrote the tickets I asked him who spotted the stickers initially, and offered up a WTG. He was a dick about it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 12:03:02 PM
Fastest I've ever taken a car was on a straight stretch of Rt 29 in Maple Lawn, on my way to Silver Spring. There's a stop light on the stretch at the top of a hill that lets you see way far down and ahead, so you can get a good scan to see if there are officers clocking or anything. Anyway, when the light went green I decided I was just going to push and see how fast I could go before I either had to slow down or at least felt I had to. I took it up to 131mph before deciding the car felt light enough on its tires and that I didn't want to take anymore chances with my life. Highly exhilirating.
I got my E30 up to 131, which confirmed BMW's numbers. That's as fast as that car will go, and that's partly dependent on grade and wind. I've only gotten my E46 up to 120 or so, but it handled great and still had a lot left in the tank.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Hyperplex on November 16, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Yeah my 2013 B8.5 S4 took it to 131 easily. The limiter on the car is 155 (which I've removed with a mod chip), but I didn't push it to that. It had plenty left. That needle was still climbing when I decided to back 'er off and come back to Earth. The best part was the suspension was as calm and rigid as when traveling normal speeds. There was no squirreling or shaking. I did feel the car get noticably lighter as I broke 130, a nice flightiness that let you know just how low the upper air pressure was getting on the car. Man, that was fun.
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Post by: Chino on November 16, 2016, 12:09:42 PM
When I got my reckless driving charge at 18, I got clocked at 122 in my Passat.
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Post by: Hyperplex on November 16, 2016, 12:13:55 PM
Yet another reason why I do not do that very often, if at all anymore.
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Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 12:27:08 PM
Yeah my 2013 B8.5 S4 took it to 131 easily. The limiter on the car is 155 (which I've removed with a mod chip), but I didn't push it to that. It had plenty left. That needle was still climbing when I decided to back 'er off and come back to Earth. The best part was the suspension was as calm and rigid as when traveling normal speeds. There was no squirreling or shaking. I did feel the car get noticably lighter as I broke 130, a nice flightiness that let you know just how low the upper air pressure was getting on the car. Man, that was fun.
I certainly didn't notice any aero-effects at 120. It honestly felt as if I were doing 60. And in my case that was cruising speed, rather than a "how fast can I push it" thing. I had a car in front of me doing ~125 of so, so I lagged slightly behind him for a while feeling rather safe.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on November 16, 2016, 12:27:56 PM
Yet another reason why I do not do that very often, if at all anymore.

I rarely break 100 these days, if I do it's completely by accident. I typically call it a day around 92 or so.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on November 16, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
Yet another reason why I do not do that very often, if at all anymore.

I rarely break 100 these days, if I do it's completely by accident. I typically call it a day around 92 or so.
Indeed. On my cross-country road trip last month I had 83 or so as my top speed, and that was in 80mph zones. Texas is pretty generous with regards to speeding tickets, but I don't want to find out how the South Dakota Highway Patrol treats them. Besides, I was enough of an interdiction target as it was.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on November 20, 2016, 05:11:46 PM
Yet another reason why I do not do that very often, if at all anymore.

I rarely break 100 these days, if I do it's completely by accident. I typically call it a day around 92 or so.

The only time I hit over 100 is when I'm on my bike on a few long stretches. No one around.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 12, 2017, 12:16:24 PM
My car is at the dealership right now with a check engine light on. Turns out it's a bad o2 sensor. They want $660 to swap it out. Is it just me, or is that insane?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on July 12, 2017, 12:21:56 PM
Maybe not insane for a dealership.  Those sensors are pretty expensive, about $200 or so last I checked, but nowhere near $600.  I've never changed one myself, but it seems the most difficult part is access, since they are typically installed at awkward angles, and possibly a special tool to go around the wire.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Grappler on July 12, 2017, 12:23:25 PM
My car is at the dealership right now with a check engine light on. Turns out it's a bad o2 sensor. They want $660 to swap it out. Is it just me, or is that insane?

Dealers charge insanely high labor rates, usually starting around $200/hr.  If a local auto shop can do the work (and it's not warranty work), you can save money on labor costs.  Also depends on the price of the part - it can't hurt to ask for a breakdown in cost (parts/labor/tax, etc.) to see if they'll give it to you or not.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 12, 2017, 12:24:32 PM
Maybe not insane for a dealership.  Those sensors are pretty expensive, about $200 or so last I checked, but nowhere near $600.  I've never changed one myself, but it seems the most difficult part is access, since they are typically installed at awkward angles, and possibly a special tool to go around the wire.

He said the sensor itself is $320 and the rest is diagnostic and labor. I'm of the opinion that if you're getting the servicing work done, the dealership should wave the diagnostic fee.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 12, 2017, 12:32:22 PM
I can't believe I have neglected this thread for nearly a year.

re: Tail lights- My brother had an  86 325e Which he installed a kill switch on the tail lights.  He had plenty of incidents where he had to gtfo and away from the police in a hurry (Expired tags). I was going to buy the car from him and get it legal  but he sold it before I had the cash to do so.

My car is at the dealership right now with a check engine light on. Turns out it's a bad o2 sensor. They want $660 to swap it out. Is it just me, or is that insane?


You still in the Mini?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 12, 2017, 12:33:44 PM
Yep. Still in the Mini.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 12, 2017, 12:54:40 PM
I'm so sorry
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Post by: Chino on July 12, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
It's getting old :( Just crossed 105K miles and still owe $9500 on it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 12, 2017, 01:59:13 PM
O2 sensors are one of the things you really need to get OEM. Aftermarket ones will cause a ton of problems. That said, and OEM but non-factory branded sensor should run about 2 bills or so. The rest is the Stealer's markup. Any knucklehead should be able to install it in half an hour. Most reputable mechanics will apply the diagnostic fee to the labor so long as they do the work. I wouldn't count on any such reasonableness from the stealer.

In the future, Autozone, O'Reilly's, Pep Boys, or whatever chain of autoparts store you have up there will check the codes and tell you what's going on for free.

Lastly, go to realOEM.com, type in the last 7 digits of your VIN and search for Lambda probe. That's your sensor. It's very likely the same Seimens unit mine uses, which runs $215. That'll get you the part number and you can shop around from there. At the very least it'll tell you what the BMW name costs when added to a standard part.

And you really need to find an independent mechanic for your car. If it's not a warranty item then assume every single repair will cost half as much than a dealer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 12, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
Yeah, all true, but you're right as rain when it comes to O2 sensors.  My son has a GTI that has had a check engine light on for a year now because of an O2 sensor, and we've gone through three of them in that time.  Something to do with the wiring of the sensor; finally my son just said "F*** it" and is selling it as-is.

Anyone want a 2011 GTI Royal blue (the special color), stick, 75,000 miles, in excellent condition except for the O2 sensor?   (FYI, not selling it because of the O2 sensor; it's a two-door hatchback and with a 3-month old baby, it's not cutting the mustard). 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 12, 2017, 02:23:27 PM
Yeah, all true, but you're right as rain when it comes to O2 sensors.  My son has a GTI that has had a check engine light on for a year now because of an O2 sensor, and we've gone through three of them in that time.  Something to do with the wiring of the sensor; finally my son just said "F*** it" and is selling it as-is.

Anyone want a 2011 GTI Royal blue (the special color), stick, 75,000 miles, in excellent condition except for the O2 sensor?   (FYI, not selling it because of the O2 sensor; it's a two-door hatchback and with a 3-month old baby, it's not cutting the mustard).
O2 sensors are weird in that plenty of other things will cause them to report bad even if they're fine. It's possible that something upstream is making the O2 data appear bad even though the sensor(s) is fine. In my case the SEL light came on and the codes report both O2 sensors are bad. When they both trip simultaneously that's what you look for. A vacuum leak or a bad MAF sensor can cause the actual air to differ from the MAF's air and therefore there's more or less O2 reported out the ass than what it expects.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: pogoowner on July 12, 2017, 06:53:31 PM
I've had an O2 sensor issue with my Cobalt for years. Took it in once, and they found something to fix but told me it could be any number of other things down the line, based on the codes. Check engine light came back on a day later and I just said "screw it." I'm not spending $300 five times until they figure it out. My state doesn't require inspections and my car runs fine, so I'm not worrying about it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 12, 2017, 07:44:56 PM
O2 sensors are one of the things you really need to get OEM. Aftermarket ones will cause a ton of problems. That said, and OEM but non-factory branded sensor should run about 2 bills or so. The rest is the Stealer's markup. Any knucklehead should be able to install it in half an hour. Most reputable mechanics will apply the diagnostic fee to the labor so long as they do the work. I wouldn't count on any such reasonableness from the stealer.

In the future, Autozone, O'Reilly's, Pep Boys, or whatever chain of autoparts store you have up there will check the codes and tell you what's going on for free.

Lastly, go to realOEM.com, type in the last 7 digits of your VIN and search for Lambda probe. That's your sensor. It's very likely the same Seimens unit mine uses, which runs $215. That'll get you the part number and you can shop around from there. At the very least it'll tell you what the BMW name costs when added to a standard part.

And you really need to find an independent mechanic for your car. If it's not a warranty item then assume every single repair will cost half as much than a dealer.

Barto speaks the truth, I replaced my o2 sensors a few months back in my bmw, took a little over an hour and cost $140
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on July 13, 2017, 01:46:20 PM
And you really need to find an independent mechanic for your car. If it's not a warranty item then assume every single repair will cost half as much than a dealer.
I've never used a dealer for repair work, however the timing belt is due on my volvo and I am planning on having that done there.  A coworker had his timing belt changed on a different model volvo (a different dealer than the one I plan on using), and 3 months later the aux belt failed/dislodged and interfered with the timing belt, requiring replacement of heads, valves etc. (I dont think he needed the whole engine replaced).  I don't think you would have much recourse with an independent mechanic in a situation like that.  He had the engine repaired for no charge by the dealer after taking the issue to corporate.  The standard charge for this job on my car is around $750, not including replacing the water pump.

Another reason I am considering this is that I haven't found a reputable independent volvo mechanic yet, but have twice gone to the dealer for a diagnostic check (not OBD, but their proprietary engine monitoring system).  The first time they found no problems, and charged me $20 to do an oil change with my supplied oil and filter.  The second time they charged me for the diagnostic check (1 hour of labor, or $145), and offered to apply that cost to the necessary repairs, which I wound up doing myself.  Though expensive, I got the feeling in both instances that they were honest and straightforward.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 14, 2017, 06:32:59 AM
I had good luck with the Volvo dealer in Cherry Hill, for what it's worth.

The other thing - not easy to do in this day and age of "schedulers" and bullshit - is get to know one of the mechanics.   My son works for a Volvo dealership here in Connecticut (he mainly works on Saabs, but also Volvos) and a lot of those guys are specific make/specific model nerds.   One guy knows everything about the '98 - '03 Saab 9-3s, or another guy knows the S60's back to front... and outside the dealer they will help you.   When I was getting my feet wet with working on a car, I had a '82 320i (it was the E30, first year, I think; it had the inline six engine), and I had to change the tranny; on those cars, there's a special "nut" on the back of the transmission that is big (like 2 1/2", 3") and requires a thin-walled socket with a star pattern (or some shit; I'm going off memory here, bear with me).   I had gotten to know a mechanic at the BMW (near you, Chino, in Watertown) named Gene, who had helped me by answering questions and what not, and when I asked him about that, he looked at me (kind of sizing me up) and disappeared, coming back with the socket in question.   He handed it to me and said you're in the club now, so don't screw me over.  I need that back, but take it and do what you have to do.  I thought then and still do now that that is INSANE.  That socket then probably cost him $50 or more, and now who knows?   I returned it the following weekend, with a coffee and a donut, and while he later moved on (and I lost touch with him), I'll never forget that as long as I live. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 07:11:05 AM
I used to have a great mechanic. He did all the work on my Mazda and Passat when I had them. Whenever I was looking at buying a new (used) car, he'd let me bring it in and throw it on his lift and look at it for no charge. He lived across the street from us and owned a garage in Watertown until he flipped his truck drunk without a seatbelt on. His legs no longer work and he can sometimes move his right arm and wrists. I hadn't needed a mechanic for the last 105K miles as everything was covered under Mini. I needed an oil change the other day and Valvoline wouldn't do it. "Sorry, we don't do Minis. They have proprietary hardware we don't have, and there's something with the batter that makes them a liability for us" the guy says to me. I went to the place my mechanic used to own after Valvoline turned me away, and he said the same thing. Having gone 10,500 miles since my last oil change, I brought it to Mini just to get it done. I didn't want to keep racking up the miles while looking for a mechanic that would take it while also working with my schedule at work.

My check engine light was on so I had them look at that while I was there (almost puked when I saw $140 diagnostic charge on the bill). I'll be getting the o2 sensor work done elsewhere.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 14, 2017, 09:41:40 AM
Mini Coopers- The gift that keeps on giving.

I have yet to hear a positive story from anyone who has owned a Mini.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 09:49:53 AM
Mini Coopers- The gift that keeps on giving.

I have yet to hear a positive story from anyone who has owned a Mini.

So far it's cost me less than either my Passat or Mazda3 Hatchback did, and I had it for more than 50k miles longer than either of those. I've had a couple bugs with it here and there, but to be fair, I've beaten the absolute living shit out of it for 105K miles now and it still running great. I'm actually blown away by how good it's been given my driving style and the fact that it's been through five CT winters now.

It should be noted that I have the non-turbo version. The boosted ones do tend to have some issues with the engines.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on July 14, 2017, 09:54:48 AM
My Girlfriend was looking at getting a used Mini a year or so ago. Everyone whom I spoke with who had a Mini told me to run far away. Good to know that they aren't all bad.

If I started making semi decent money, I'd totally invest in one.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2017, 11:47:48 AM
The sport versions are supposed to be an absolute panic to drive. My stepfather bought one just to do The Italian Job all over Dallas. But yeah, surprisingly poor build quality.

@Chino: Didn't you have to have carbon deposits scraped out of that thing like 3 different times? Fouling the plugs and whatnot? That's the sort of thing that should never pop up in a modern, well-designed car. In any case, it seems to suit you well. Glad it's worked out. My first BMW was the cheapest car I ever owned by a long shot, despite driving it every day for 10 years like Beauford T. Justice was chasing me. Sometimes cars with a bad reputation for being costly to own really aren't.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 11:58:31 AM
@Chino: Didn't you have to have carbon deposits scraped out of that thing like 3 different times? Fouling the plugs and whatnot? That's the sort of thing that should never pop up in a modern, well-designed car. In any case, it seems to suit you well. Glad it's worked out. My first BMW was the cheapest car I ever owned by a long shot, despite driving it every day for 10 years like Beauford T. Justice was chasing me. Sometimes cars with a bad reputation for being costly to own really aren't.

I've never had to do that. I had to replace the ignition module (or whatever that thing is that controls spark timing) but that was it. I ran a bottle of that sea foam stuff through it and nothing more.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2017, 12:41:43 PM
@Chino: Didn't you have to have carbon deposits scraped out of that thing like 3 different times? Fouling the plugs and whatnot? That's the sort of thing that should never pop up in a modern, well-designed car. In any case, it seems to suit you well. Glad it's worked out. My first BMW was the cheapest car I ever owned by a long shot, despite driving it every day for 10 years like Beauford T. Justice was chasing me. Sometimes cars with a bad reputation for being costly to own really aren't.
A quick search for "carbon" in this thread suggests that you seafoamed it twice and still had to take it to the dealer when a cylinder crapped out because of carbon buildup on all four spark plugs. Oh, and you also ran though two water pumps in a short period of time.

Not trying to rag on your car here. Like I said, it's a great fit for you and other than those two problems it seems to have worked out quite well. And the water pump thing is all on BMW. They use shitty plastic impellers, for some reason. I'm just thinking that all of that carbon doesn't reflect well on the brand when we're discussing Mini's questionable reliability. There are always exceptions, both good and bad. My boss drove a brand new El Dorado off the lot and had a cylinder crap out in the first 2 months. You just hear horror stories from a lot of mini owners.

I've never had to do that. I had to replace the ignition module (or whatever that thing is that controls spark timing) but that was it. I ran a bottle of that sea foam stuff through it and nothing more.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on July 14, 2017, 12:43:54 PM
My co-worker bought a mini last year.  Already had to take it back to the dealer for minor issues twice, the last being the window not going back up.  He's also had bad luck with it where two separate people crashed into him from behind  :lol  Not the cars fault.  He's good and knowledgable with cars (way moreso than me) and said before buying it he expected issues.  He also bought it new since a used one is almost guaranteed to be a headache.  It was really the car his wife wanted, not him, but otherwise he really likes it.  Personally, I'd never buy one because I put reliability as a top criteria for a car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 12:51:43 PM
@Chino: Didn't you have to have carbon deposits scraped out of that thing like 3 different times? Fouling the plugs and whatnot? That's the sort of thing that should never pop up in a modern, well-designed car. In any case, it seems to suit you well. Glad it's worked out. My first BMW was the cheapest car I ever owned by a long shot, despite driving it every day for 10 years like Beauford T. Justice was chasing me. Sometimes cars with a bad reputation for being costly to own really aren't.
A quick search for "carbon" in this thread suggests that you seafoamed it twice and still had to take it to the dealer when a cylinder crapped out because of carbon buildup on all four spark plugs. Oh, and you also ran though two water pumps in a short period of time.

Not trying to rag on your car here. Like I said, it's a great fit for you and other than those two problems it seems to have worked out quite well. And the water pump thing is all on BMW. They use shitty plastic impellers, for some reason. I'm just thinking that all of that carbon doesn't reflect well on the brand when we're discussing Mini's questionable reliability. There are always exceptions, both good and bad. My boss drove a brand new El Dorado off the lot and had a cylinder crap out in the first 2 months. You just hear horror stories from a lot of mini owners.

I've never had to do that. I had to replace the ignition module (or whatever that thing is that controls spark timing) but that was it. I ran a bottle of that sea foam stuff through it and nothing more.

Yeah, I remember thinking it was carbon build up messing up the plugs, but it ended up being the module. I forgot that I had seafoamed it prior to that second time. I never had a cylinder down for the count. I might have thought that was what was wrong, but it ultimately wasn't once mechanics got under the hood. The water pumps were an early issue, yes. The first one shit the bed really early, and I'm convinced the second one wasn't installed correctly as it went in less than 2k miles if I remember correctly. I had plastic impeller issues on my Passat as well. Out of all the hardware and technology on a car, it seems like that part would not cost all that much if manufactured in metal rather than plastic. They must make a lot of money off of waterpump changes.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
My co-worker bought a mini last year.  Already had to take it back to the dealer for minor issues twice, the last being the window not going back up.  He's also had bad luck with it where two separate people crashed into him from behind  :lol  Not the cars fault.  He's good and knowledgable with cars (way moreso than me) and said before buying it he expected issues.  He also bought it new since a used one is almost guaranteed to be a headache.  It was really the car his wife wanted, not him, but otherwise he really likes it.  Personally, I'd never buy one because I put reliability as a top criteria for a car.

Do you know what model he had? My dad bought a Paceman and had a similar issue with the driver window. There's a pressure switch in the window that can detect if there's something in the windows way when it's rolling up (like a child's face) and it will reverse it if that sensor detect resistance. It was faulty from the factory and the dealer didn't charge him for his first month of having the car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on July 14, 2017, 12:58:40 PM
I don't know off my head, I'd have to ask.   But I think that window issue was known in BMWs and whatnot so very common in these cars, according to him when we last talked about it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 14, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
I don't know off my head, I'd have to ask.   But I think that window issue was known in BMWs and whatnot so very common in these cars, according to him when we last talked about it.

It seems like the bulk of the issues Mini has is because of the BMW parts they put on them  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 14, 2017, 01:36:03 PM
I don't know off my head, I'd have to ask.   But I think that window issue was known in BMWs and whatnot so very common in these cars, according to him when we last talked about it.

It seems like the bulk of the issues Mini has is because of the BMW parts they put on them  :lol
Not entirely untrue. BMW also likes to use plastic window regulators. In almost any car there are a list of known problems that crop up. The water pumps and the windows have been two of BMW's problems for ages. Tail lights are another biggie. That said, you won't find a better built drivetrain. BMW motors never fail. When a BMW finally gives it up due to age it's usually because the head gasket failed and the rest of the car isn't worth the cost of repairing. Internally the engine will still be aces. Hell, I put pert near 50k on my E36 after the head gasket failed. Every 9 months or so I'd have the cooling system flushed due to the oxidation. Other than that no problems at all. Didn't let it go until water was pretty much pouring out of the side of the engine block.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: T-ski on July 14, 2017, 01:49:31 PM
my Dad is a retired autobody man and is looking to unload his '62 T-bird.  I'll be more than happy to send anyone more info if they so choose....

(http://i.imgur.com/GTcNo8n.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 15, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
Since I've gotten a house with a garage I'm actually enjoying working on my car. I have an e46 BMW and there is work to be done (due to my negligence) but it's not bad to work on with one exception which is taking the engine fan off.

Chino you have a mini, which is essentially a BMW. Do yourself a favor and buy this: https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Diagnostic-Scanner-Adapter-Smartphone/dp/B00QRE0OOA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1500122749&sr=8-2&keywords=elm327+wifi

And then buy the engine link app on the app store. You can pull and clear your own codes, which you'll get a lot in the mini, take from a fellow bmw owner.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 17, 2017, 07:02:19 AM
I'm with el Barto on the BMW thing.  I've had four or six depending on how you count, and with only one exception (the catalytic converter on a 5-Series I had in '01) I've never encountered the so-called "EXPENSIVE REPAIR!" (I mean by that the repair that cost so much you debate why you even have the car).   You have to take care of them, and you have to find someone non-dealer you trust, but they are manageable. 

Even the X3 I have - not a sports car - is one of the funnest cars I've driven in a while (and don't get me started on my sons 330xi; I've already told him I have first refusal rights if he decides to sell).   

I joke with him (he's a mechanic at a Volvo/Saab dealer) that if there is something you don't understand why they do that (on a BMW), you can pretty much guarantee it's you being dumb, not the Germans.  They thought of something you didn't and you haven't figured it out yet.   :)   (There are exceptions to that rule; the water pump is one of them). 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2017, 08:57:35 AM
I thought you'd already bought the 330X.

And while BMW does have reasons for everything they do, some of them don't work out very well. Placing the battery where the 50lbs is most needed for balance makes great sense. Placing it under the rear seat so that it takes 2 hours to replace does not.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 17, 2017, 09:12:55 AM
My parent's have two BMWs. My mom has a 2013 Z4 and my dad has a 2014 535. I took my mom's Z4 for a spin while visiting yesterday, and it died on me at a red light. I had to get it into park and refire it. Apparently that happened twice last week too. She brought it to the dealer and they said it was her battery. They charged her $400 to replace it and it obviously didn't solve the issue. My father was livid that she authorized that work to begin with, and now he's even more pissed that it wasn't needed at all.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 17, 2017, 10:09:18 AM
I thought you'd already bought the 330X.

And while BMW does have reasons for everything they do, some of them don't work out very well. Placing the battery where the 50lbs is most needed for balance makes great sense. Placing it under the rear seat so that it takes 2 hours to replace does not.

No, he decided he wanted to keep it and he sold one of his other cars.  I bought a '98 Toyota Tacoma as a second car instead. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 17, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
I thought you'd already bought the 330X.

And while BMW does have reasons for everything they do, some of them don't work out very well. Placing the battery where the 50lbs is most needed for balance makes great sense. Placing it under the rear seat so that it takes 2 hours to replace does not.

I couldn't agree more. I had to replace my fuel filter last year. It was the easiest thing ever, popped the back seat out, flat head screw drive and out she came. Took less than 45 minutes.

I have to replace the oil filter gasket because I have a very oil leak. You would think this is easy because the oil filter sits on top of the engine (smart move by BMW). Well I have to remove the fan, the serpentine belt, the alternator, disconnect the power steering pump for a gasket that cost me $5.

That said I love my BMW, it's got it's quirks but it has never left me stranded and while some of the electrical bits act up it's been the most reliable car I own. The i6 is a beast of an engine and as old as it is I still get compliments from time to time and it's fairly well loaded.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2017, 08:07:28 PM
I couldn't agree more. I had to replace my fuel filter last year. It was the easiest thing ever, popped the back seat out, flat head screw drive and out she came. Took less than 45 minutes.
Filter or pump? All of my BMWs had the filters inline underneath the rear, driver's side door. Sounds like you were getting into the tank, as one would to replace a fuel pump. You drive an E46 M, right?

I replaced the oil filter housing gasket on one of my cars, but don't remember which one. Once they start to leak they really leak. I recall that it was annoying but I didn't have to remove the fan. I think the alternator was the only thing I had to remove.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: kingshmegland on July 17, 2017, 08:09:22 PM
EB, I never pictures you as a BMW guy.

Perceptions man, perceptions.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 17, 2017, 08:35:24 PM
EB, I never pictures you as a BMW guy.

Perceptions man, perceptions.
That's just what I drive when my 83 Chevette is in the shop.

Seriously, BMWs are the perfect blend of performance and comfort, not to mention thoughtfully designed. My kind of cars. They're also durable as hell, which is very important if you're like me and can't afford a car less than 10 years old. If you've got to buy a car built during the Clinton administration, BMW is the only way to go.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 17, 2017, 09:21:23 PM
I couldn't agree more. I had to replace my fuel filter last year. It was the easiest thing ever, popped the back seat out, flat head screw drive and out she came. Took less than 45 minutes.
Filter or pump? All of my BMWs had the filters inline underneath the rear, driver's side door. Sounds like you were getting into the tank, as one would to replace a fuel pump. You drive an E46 M, right?

I replaced the oil filter housing gasket on one of my cars, but don't remember which one. Once they start to leak they really leak. I recall that it was annoying but I didn't have to remove the fan. I think the alternator was the only thing I had to remove.

Pump my apologies I hade on too many beers.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on July 18, 2017, 07:24:05 AM
You guys are really selling me on BMW.  I've never considered them except when I was in college and coveted the E39 M5.  They apparently can be had rather inexpensively these days.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 18, 2017, 07:40:29 AM
They are nice cars Jasc. I really want to get an e92 M3, those were some of the best looking M cars
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 18, 2017, 07:53:51 AM
You guys are really selling me on BMW.  I've never considered them except when I was in college and coveted the E39 M5.  They apparently can be had rather inexpensively these days.

The E39 can be had relatively inexpensively, but - at least around where I am (the Northeast) - the M version is a little more pricey and a little less common.   That's my son's holy grail car at this point. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 18, 2017, 08:29:45 AM
I've generally steered clear of M cars simply because it throws my math off. While I can keep a 10 year old BMW on the road very affordably all that changes when you double the cost for parts and everything becomes more fine-tuned. I suppose if I had the money to buy an E90 M in the first place I wouldn't be so concerned about it, but the cost of admission plus the cost of upkeep is prohibitive to me.

Besides, I'd go with an M-Coupe. That's where BMWs return to being "fun."
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 18, 2017, 09:09:41 AM
Can anyone think of a reason why this listing is $10k-$15K cheaper than anything comparable? Trucks with 50K more miles than this one are selling for $10k more.

https://www.truecar.com/used-cars-for-sale/listing/1FTSW21568EA71764/2008-ford-super-duty-f-250/

2008 Ford Super Duty F-250 4WD Crew Cab 172" XLT
for Sale in Ansonia, CT
23,214 miles

(https://listings.tcimg.net/listings/23992/64/17/1FTSW21568EA71764/PIL22Z4KTIUXGS7GBMUJ765KR4-600.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 18, 2017, 09:32:03 AM
My first reaction is it was hit and repaired.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 18, 2017, 11:15:57 AM
I would think the same thing Stadler
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on July 18, 2017, 11:44:01 AM
CARFAX says no, though.  It did have a catalytic converter problem, but that's it.    It was a commercial vehicle for a while, but still...
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on July 18, 2017, 11:50:31 AM
CARFAX says no, though.  It did have a catalytic converter problem, but that's it.    It was a commercial vehicle for a while, but still...

I'm more curious about why it's been serviced 13 times with that little mileage, unless the first owner did their due diligence and brought it in for a checkup every year. It doesn't look like it was beat on. It doesn't have the mounts up front, so whatever it was doing commercially didn't involve a plow. The rear bumper and tow hitch look new and there's next to no wear in the bed.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on July 18, 2017, 03:14:32 PM
So not only is there /r/BMW, and /r/5series, and /r/E39, but there is an /r/E39M5.  Also www.m5board.com.

Just a bit of daydreaming thanks to this thread.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on July 18, 2017, 05:10:10 PM
So not only is there /r/BMW, and /r/5series, and /r/E39, but there is an /r/E39M5.  Also www.m5board.com.

Just a bit of daydreaming thanks to this thread.
When I bought my first one, circa 98, the online community was a big selling point for me. There's no question that hasn't been answered a dozen times. Every repair has numerous DYIs with pictures and videos. I'm partial to bimmerforums.com, myself, and any problem I've encountered has numerous threads discussing likely causes and remedies. It's really a wonderful resource.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 19, 2017, 05:20:29 AM
So not only is there /r/BMW, and /r/5series, and /r/E39, but there is an /r/E39M5.  Also www.m5board.com.

Just a bit of daydreaming thanks to this thread.

I'll leave this for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_rjhiIIcX0
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 28, 2018, 06:52:12 AM
So what are everyone's thoughts on the new Hyundai Veloster N https://jalopnik.com/the-275-horsepower-2019-hyundai-veloster-n-is-ready-to-1822084985?

 I'm in the market for a new car as the repair costs for my car are getting higher and higher and I'm tired of spending weekends working on my car. It's hard to get past the 3 door look of the car but it might be a contender. I really wish Hyundai just brought over the i30N. I'm also looking at Focus ST's.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ZKX-2099 on January 28, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
Just get a Fit.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2018, 09:52:32 AM
So what are everyone's thoughts on the new Hyundai Veloster N https://jalopnik.com/the-275-horsepower-2019-hyundai-veloster-n-is-ready-to-1822084985?

 I'm in the market for a new car as the repair costs for my car are getting higher and higher and I'm tired of spending weekends working on my car. It's hard to get past the 3 door look of the car but it might be a contender. I really wish Hyundai just brought over the i30N. I'm also looking at Focus ST's.
Aren't you a BMW guy? I thought you had like an M3 or something, which would explain the high repair costs, but not your interest in a Hyundai.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 28, 2018, 01:01:09 PM
I am and I do have an m3 and im over it. The list of things I have repaired in the past year and the things I have to do this year, I just want to let it go.

I originally had a golf and Iíve always liked hatches. I was interested in the st but it looks a bit dated, I like all the features that come with Hyundai and the cost.

I did go look at the bmw line up late last year and I wasnít really impressed. I want to go look Audi still and check out the A3
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2018, 01:09:25 PM
I am and I do have an m3 and im over it. The list of things I have repaired in the past year and the things I have to do this year, I just want to let it go.

I originally had a golf and Iíve always liked hatches. I was interested in the st but it looks a bit dated, I like all the features that come with Hyundai and the cost.

I did go look at the bmw line up late last year and I wasnít really impressed. I want to go look Audi still and check out the A3
My experience with Audi was hellish. It'll have the same sorts of problems as your M3, but it was built by assholes. Working on them sucks ass.

I have no experience with any Hyundais, but I've yet to find an Asian car that felt as solid as my BMWs. I agree that the new lineups generally suck, which is why my E46 is probably the end of the line for me, but they still feel somewhat substantial. That's why I was surprised that you were looking that direction.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 28, 2018, 02:58:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, my e46 has served me a long time but currently I need to:

- Do a suspension refresh
- Fix the drivers door lock (it doesn't unlock with the key or fob, it will lock)
- O2 sensors
- Oil filter gasket replacement (I have a small oil leak, this is a 6 hour job and $3 gasket, thank you Germany)
- Find out why it takes forever to cold start, I've replaced the fuel pump and filter however the pump needs 10 seconds to prime to start, if I just put the key in it'll turn over until the pump builds enough pressure in the fuel bladder

I also want some new creature comforts, my gf has a new sonata for example and the stuff it came standard with is really impressive. I don't think I'd get rid of the m3 (not yet at least) because the trade in value is shit and it'd be a bitch to sell (florida title and registered, I now live in NC).

As for the BMW line-up they feel bloated. I took a test drive in the new 230i for a spin and it was nice but felt lifeless
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 28, 2018, 02:59:35 PM
Forgot to ask, what Audi did you have?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2018, 03:58:02 PM
I drove a '06 A5 for about a year before passing it along to my mom. Very comfy and pleasant to drive, though boring AF. It just makes even simple repairs a PITA, and it doesn't want to talk to anybody without a VAGCOM, so finding out what's wrong with it usually requires going to an authorized service center.

One of the things that really turned me off of Audi was a problem with the ignition interlock. The sensor that reads the RFID chip in the key is prone to going bad. The sensor is embedded in the steering column and there's no way to replace it other than replace the entire column. Two grand+, and Audi never took any responsibility for it. A whole lot of people got burned on that one. BMW might not have issued a recall, but they'd certainly have put out a TSA and repaired it for free when people's cars turned up dead one morning for no reason. Audi just said "eh, not our problem."

My experience with the oil filter gasket was that it was a snap. Granted, it was an E36, but they certainly look the same. I was a total newb and I think I did it in <2 hours. In my case you yank the alterantor and everything is right there, nice and exposed with plenty of room to work.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 28, 2018, 04:26:08 PM
Damnit barto stop telling me things are easy lol, I want a new car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on January 28, 2018, 07:55:37 PM
I bought one of these this week:

(https://contentinfo.autozonepro.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/blz/42001MI/image/3/)

I was tired of using an open pan and trying to keep it level while pouring into another container.  This seemed like a great idea until i pulled the oil plug and the flow totally overwhelmed the shallow tray molded into the side of this container, covering my garage floor in oil.  I later poured what oil actually made it into the container into the jug i just emptied into the engine, which i will prob continue doing in the future.  The whole outside of this container is covered in oil and now sits on a pile of kitty litter on my garage floor.

I also did my first DIY tire rotation afterwards.  I thought i could get away with just pump jack and a stand, but i needed to use both stands to keep the front off the ground the whole time.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 28, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
I bought one of these this week:

(https://contentinfo.autozonepro.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/blz/42001MI/image/3/)

I was tired of using an open pan and trying to keep it level while pouring into another container.  This seemed like a great idea until i pulled the oil plug and the flow totally overwhelmed the shallow tray molded into the side of this container, covering my garage floor in oil.  I later poured what oil actually made it into the container into the jug i just emptied into the engine, which i will prob continue doing in the future.  The whole outside of this container is covered in oil and now sits on a pile of kitty litter on my garage floor.

I also did my first DIY tire rotation afterwards.  I thought i could get away with just pump jack and a stand, but i needed to use both stands to keep the front off the ground the whole time.
Was the vent clogged or something? Only time I've had oil even think of backing up on one of those was when I forgot to open the vent. If it can breathe the top should drain drown a helluva lot faster than the your car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 29, 2018, 04:57:11 AM
I bought one of these this week:

(https://contentinfo.autozonepro.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/blz/42001MI/image/3/)

I was tired of using an open pan and trying to keep it level while pouring into another container.  This seemed like a great idea until i pulled the oil plug and the flow totally overwhelmed the shallow tray molded into the side of this container, covering my garage floor in oil.  I later poured what oil actually made it into the container into the jug i just emptied into the engine, which i will prob continue doing in the future.  The whole outside of this container is covered in oil and now sits on a pile of kitty litter on my garage floor.

I also did my first DIY tire rotation afterwards.  I thought i could get away with just pump jack and a stand, but i needed to use both stands to keep the front off the ground the whole time.
Was the vent clogged or something? Only time I've had oil even think of backing up on one of those was when I forgot to open the vent. If it can breathe the top should drain drown a helluva lot faster than the your car.

My brother has the exact same oil pan and he had the exact same issue. In his case he forgot to open the vent.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on January 29, 2018, 07:16:41 AM
Vent was open.  It's only about a 1/16 inch hole.  I did have the oil fill cap and filter off which I usually do, so that may be why.  It's a Subaru, and the filter sits on top like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/f8jSmmX.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2018, 09:21:08 AM
Call me a part of the cult, but I'm still all in on Munich.   I think the BMW problem is one they've encountered several times over the years; they only lose the plot when they try to be too many things to too many people.   Stick with the 3, the 5, and the 7, maybe make a limited run coupe now and again (historically, the 6) and a sport utility vehicle.   They bit it bad back a number of years ago  when they tried to have the "entry level" sedan, the X1 is the worst of all possibilities (not sporty enough for the sedan crowd, not hip enough for the sportster crowd and not useful enough for the SUV crowd), and so they spread themselves too thin on service and whatnot, and things suffer. 

I still drive my '06 E83, and I got a deal on an E90 ('08) for my daughter.   Despite being fucked over a little by the guy that sold it to me, I got a good car, and my stepson works (well, worked; he just took a supervisor job at a Volvo dealership) for BMW, so I had a couple of the issues above taken care of for cost (door lock, oil gasket* and O2 sensor).   That car drives like a dream, and mine is, well... you know that saying about a woman?   Lady on the streets, whore between the sheets?   That's kind of my X3.  It'll move on the highway (I don't, but I can easily cruise at 90 and the car is solid as a rock) but is a diligent soldier in snow and uncertain terrain.  It's not a monster truck or anything like that, but it does what I need it to do, and reliably. 

* Oil gasket:  not a ten minute job, but not six hours either.   I have no doubt I could do it for the two hours that el Barto said.   Not everything on that engine is like that, but that one isn't too bad. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 29, 2018, 09:26:44 AM
I know I've driven a couple of the newer 3 series when they were offered as loaners and I thought they really sucked. I get the idea that the non-M 3s are chick cars. They're cute and get great mileage. There's just no fun in driving them. Like Stadler said, they're trying to be all things to all people, and in doing so they're building each model for a specific niche. Sadly, I don't seem to be in one of hose niches. I can't afford an M and the 3s I've gotten used to are no longer geared toward folk like us.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: YtseJam on January 29, 2018, 10:20:03 AM
Obama helped introduce the US to the disposable car. They aren't made like they used to be! Increase new car sales, increase tax revenue, stimulate the new car economy with cash for clunkers. Many stout vehicles made it to an early grave and here we have a lot of poor quality vehicles being built and ending up being recycled very quickly. The fact that they are building in so many distractions and autonomy at the same time is confusing to say the least. The automobile industry is going through some challenges adapting as quickly as they need to so right now is a bizarre time to buy a new car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 29, 2018, 10:30:09 AM
Obama helped introduce the US to the disposable car. They aren't made like they used to be! Increase new car sales, increase tax revenue, stimulate the new car economy with cash for clunkers. Many stout vehicles made it to an early grave and here we have a lot of poor quality vehicles being built and ending up being recycled very quickly. The fact that they are building in so many distractions and autonomy at the same time is confusing to say the least. The automobile industry is going through some challenges adapting as quickly as they need to so right now is a bizarre time to buy a new car.
I'd attribute it more to the shift away from ownership to leasing. Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2018, 10:37:38 AM
Obama helped introduce the US to the disposable car. They aren't made like they used to be! Increase new car sales, increase tax revenue, stimulate the new car economy with cash for clunkers. Many stout vehicles made it to an early grave and here we have a lot of poor quality vehicles being built and ending up being recycled very quickly. The fact that they are building in so many distractions and autonomy at the same time is confusing to say the least. The automobile industry is going through some challenges adapting as quickly as they need to so right now is a bizarre time to buy a new car.
I'd attribute it more to the shift away from ownership to leasing. Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."

To that point:  my '06 was cutting edge at the time.  I have a Sirius radio module in the car (but no pause, rewind or ff functionality) and my Bluetooth is ONLY for phone operation.  Thus I can't play music from my phone and (as of yet*) I can't play my iPod in the car.   I have two cables from the backseat to charge my iPhone (personal cell) and Samsung (work phone).  My stepson brought home a new Volvo for my wife (his mom) to test drive, and it automatically hooks to your phone, prioritizes your contact list and music files, and has a built-in contact charger in the armrest for Samsung phones.    I'm pretty sure the car will automatically flood the cabin with patchouli if the Dead, Phish, DMB or Widespread Panic is played, though I haven't tested that yet.   

* el Barto:  Do you know anyone that knows how to program the radio unit (in mine, it's a Blaupunkt Business CD); I should be able to plug an aux cord AND the Sirius into the back, but when I plug in the wires it's not "seeing" the aux input.   I have talked with a guy at the dealership - I know more than he does about the system, sad to say - and a guy from the forums - I go to Bimmerfest - who was kind enough to actually get on the phone with me and walk me through the pin placement, and yet it doesn't work.  We could only conclude that the radio itself might require reprogramming to accept the aux in signal.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on January 29, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
I'm pretty sure the car will automatically flood the cabin with patchouli if the Dead, Phish, DMB or Widespread Panic is played, though I haven't tested that yet.   

:rollin
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 29, 2018, 11:55:17 AM
Obama helped introduce the US to the disposable car. They aren't made like they used to be! Increase new car sales, increase tax revenue, stimulate the new car economy with cash for clunkers. Many stout vehicles made it to an early grave and here we have a lot of poor quality vehicles being built and ending up being recycled very quickly. The fact that they are building in so many distractions and autonomy at the same time is confusing to say the least. The automobile industry is going through some challenges adapting as quickly as they need to so right now is a bizarre time to buy a new car.
I'd attribute it more to the shift away from ownership to leasing. Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."

To that point:  my '06 was cutting edge at the time.  I have a Sirius radio module in the car (but no pause, rewind or ff functionality) and my Bluetooth is ONLY for phone operation.  Thus I can't play music from my phone and (as of yet*) I can't play my iPod in the car.   I have two cables from the backseat to charge my iPhone (personal cell) and Samsung (work phone).  My stepson brought home a new Volvo for my wife (his mom) to test drive, and it automatically hooks to your phone, prioritizes your contact list and music files, and has a built-in contact charger in the armrest for Samsung phones.    I'm pretty sure the car will automatically flood the cabin with patchouli if the Dead, Phish, DMB or Widespread Panic is played, though I haven't tested that yet.   

* el Barto:  Do you know anyone that knows how to program the radio unit (in mine, it's a Blaupunkt Business CD); I should be able to plug an aux cord AND the Sirius into the back, but when I plug in the wires it's not "seeing" the aux input.   I have talked with a guy at the dealership - I know more than he does about the system, sad to say - and a guy from the forums - I go to Bimmerfest - who was kind enough to actually get on the phone with me and walk me through the pin placement, and yet it doesn't work.  We could only conclude that the radio itself might require reprogramming to accept the aux in signal.
Mine was a straight plug-n-play. Like you the dealership merely said "can't be done," so I did my research and came back the next day with a part number for him to order. Got the cable, plugged it in, had AUX. There was no programming. It just scrolls through the sources tuner-CD-AUX.

I'm guessing you have the same head unit I do:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDY3WDgwMA==/z/XjIAAOxycmBS-Bxf/$_57.JPG)

I know there are two 10-pin sockets back there. One is for the CD changer and the other is "sound system." If I had to take a guess what's up with yours, it'd be that Sirius uses the sound system plug, which leaves the CD changer plug for you and the two are pinned very differently.

(https://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/45/145/47898132/business-cd-steckerbelegung-5424700878571917169.jpg)

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2018, 12:09:48 PM
Exactly the same head. 

I had the wiring diagram.  Bluetooth uses the "Sound System" jack, and the Sirius goes into the "CD-Changer" jack.   That leaves the Aux out in the cold.  I should be able to pull the wires from the Aux plug and insert them into the plug for the Sirius (they are not the same slots) but it doesn't seem to work.   Official word from the dealer is "can't have both", but that doesn't jive for some of the people that seem to know more about the systems.  Problem is, it DOES register the "Aux" input on the radio when I have those wires plugged in, which it shouldn't do, it just doesn't play any sound. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 29, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
Were it me I'd try to piggyback it on the BT side since that's where the AUX input normally resides, rather than the CD Changer side. In any case, have you tried yanking the BT cable and seeing if the AUX dongle works by itself, not piggybacked? 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on January 29, 2018, 12:19:44 PM
Were it me I'd try to piggyback it on the BT side since that's where the AUX input normally resides, rather than the CD Changer side. In any case, have you tried yanking the BT cable and seeing if the AUX dongle works by itself, not piggybacked?

Yes, and it does.  I go back and forth on that, and I'm actually thinking about bailing on the Bluetooth, because honestly, I rarely use it.  I kept it because my daughter sometimes drives that car, and I don't want her fucking with her phone while driving.  I'd rather her use the handsfree calling.   

EDIT: I might have had it backwards; I might have plugged in the wires to the BT side.  It was over the summer, so I don't remember, but I think you might be right. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 29, 2018, 09:32:32 PM
Obama helped introduce the US to the disposable car. They aren't made like they used to be! Increase new car sales, increase tax revenue, stimulate the new car economy with cash for clunkers. Many stout vehicles made it to an early grave and here we have a lot of poor quality vehicles being built and ending up being recycled very quickly. The fact that they are building in so many distractions and autonomy at the same time is confusing to say the least. The automobile industry is going through some challenges adapting as quickly as they need to so right now is a bizarre time to buy a new car.
I'd attribute it more to the shift away from ownership to leasing. Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."

To that point:  my '06 was cutting edge at the time.  I have a Sirius radio module in the car (but no pause, rewind or ff functionality) and my Bluetooth is ONLY for phone operation.  Thus I can't play music from my phone and (as of yet*) I can't play my iPod in the car.   I have two cables from the backseat to charge my iPhone (personal cell) and Samsung (work phone).  My stepson brought home a new Volvo for my wife (his mom) to test drive, and it automatically hooks to your phone, prioritizes your contact list and music files, and has a built-in contact charger in the armrest for Samsung phones.    I'm pretty sure the car will automatically flood the cabin with patchouli if the Dead, Phish, DMB or Widespread Panic is played, though I haven't tested that yet.   

* el Barto:  Do you know anyone that knows how to program the radio unit (in mine, it's a Blaupunkt Business CD); I should be able to plug an aux cord AND the Sirius into the back, but when I plug in the wires it's not "seeing" the aux input.   I have talked with a guy at the dealership - I know more than he does about the system, sad to say - and a guy from the forums - I go to Bimmerfest - who was kind enough to actually get on the phone with me and walk me through the pin placement, and yet it doesn't work.  We could only conclude that the radio itself might require reprogramming to accept the aux in signal.
Mine was a straight plug-n-play. Like you the dealership merely said "can't be done," so I did my research and came back the next day with a part number for him to order. Got the cable, plugged it in, had AUX. There was no programming. It just scrolls through the sources tuner-CD-AUX.

I'm guessing you have the same head unit I do:
(https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDY3WDgwMA==/z/XjIAAOxycmBS-Bxf/$_57.JPG)

I know there are two 10-pin sockets back there. One is for the CD changer and the other is "sound system." If I had to take a guess what's up with yours, it'd be that Sirius uses the sound system plug, which leaves the CD changer plug for you and the two are pinned very differently.

(https://data.motor-talk.de/data/galleries/0/45/145/47898132/business-cd-steckerbelegung-5424700878571917169.jpg)



I have pretty good iphone integration with my car. I bought, and I can't remember the name of it but I'll look tomorrow morning, a unit that plugs into the cd changer in the trunk. I ran the wire through the rear seats and into the center console and it'll play anything off my iphone 7 or ipod. Steering wheel controls work, and the stock headunit can sort through folders, albums, whatever and display the song - artist - album.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on January 29, 2018, 09:34:36 PM
As a note the last really fun BMW I drove was the 135i. My buddy worked as a sales guy at a BMW dealership a few years ago and I'd come in to test drive some cars for fun. We took the 135 out and it was a blast. It was a a convertible so top down, in florida, with a beautiful exhaust note was some of the most fun I've had in any BMW. It was nimble and had a ton of horsepower. When they were new I never gave them a second glance but now I wish I could've gone back in time and gotten it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: YtseJam on January 30, 2018, 05:27:52 PM
Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."

I love driving my old school old-ass rides more than anything! They all have the amenities too, touch screen, bluetooth, navigation, backup camera, kick ass interior and sound. Babes love em too

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1q9VJnRJ1tyXdbVDFroJUwJShc9Vc_N5S)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on January 31, 2018, 09:03:13 AM
Also, Americans don't want to drive old-ass cars anymore. "No bluetooth!!! Fuck that."

I love driving my old school old-ass rides more than anything! They all have the amenities too, touch screen, bluetooth, navigation, backup camera, kick ass interior and sound. Babes love em too

(https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1q9VJnRJ1tyXdbVDFroJUwJShc9Vc_N5S)

I'd love to drive older cars around, but I'm too nervous in them from a reliability standpoint. I drive 500-600 miles a week. I need something that I can have confidence in and trust that it's not going to constantly die on me.

Also, CT can be a bitch on old cars. Winter does them no good. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on January 31, 2018, 10:30:13 AM
My boss has a fondness for old T-birds. He showed up driving a ~62 or so one morning that he'd just bought. That fondness lasted about 1 month. And this from a guy who's daily commute is 6 miles round trip. Jumped right back into a leased El Dorado.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Kattelox on January 31, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
Coworker of mine left the business a couple weeks ago after being here 12 years (body shop). Got sick of working on modern cars and all the new technology (we just bought an aluminum welding station because stupid manufacturers are going to stupid aluminum now, and we just bought a plastic welder, and...). More and more sensors keep getting thrown in there, especially in bumpers. Unplug one thing to change a light, sets off 10 error codes.

He has his own operation at home of course, so that's what he's doing now. Working on and restoring old cars (I'm talking OLD, back to the 30s), is now taking in jobs from all over the country. Then he flips 'em when he's finished. Dude goes through cars more often than I go through socks, literally! I don't really care about cars but I totally understand why he enjoys the old stuff so much. Modern cars suck. I've been sanding parts here for 10 years and yesterday I spent 4 hours scuffing a bumper cover with the hardest primer I've EVER dealt with. Wet sand, scuff with abrasive gel, DA... fucker looked like I had barely scuffed it after an hour. Plastic sucks :)

Story: We've restored a couple old cars in the past but never again, way too much of a headache (and we're not even a restoration shop, anyway). Did a 76 Trans Am once, and a 1959 Chevy Biscayne. Had the Biscayne in the shop for 4 years because the guy was stingy and didn't want to fork over the money we had put into finding all the rare parts and restoring the whole damn thing... so one day he finally gives in and he picks it up and less than 40 minutes later forgot to put it in park all the way and it rolled into a fence. Haha.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on January 31, 2018, 10:40:42 AM
In March 2017 I leased a Ford Fusion Energi, which is a plug-in Hybrid and I absolutely love it. For financial reasons I'll likely finance it at the end of the lease, but a year or two into payments I'd like to switch over to something all electric. So far the Bolt, Leaf (which will be getting a big range increase in 2019), and eventually the Model 3 will all be great options, but I have reservations about all of them. Will be following this general segment of things closely over the next few years.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on January 31, 2018, 03:07:08 PM
So what are everyone's thoughts on the new Hyundai Veloster N https://jalopnik.com/the-275-horsepower-2019-hyundai-veloster-n-is-ready-to-1822084985?

 I'm in the market for a new car as the repair costs for my car are getting higher and higher and I'm tired of spending weekends working on my car. It's hard to get past the 3 door look of the car but it might be a contender. I really wish Hyundai just brought over the i30N. I'm also looking at Focus ST's.

That's got some power to it.  I can only say I've rented Velosters in the past on business trips and I thought they were terrible, but they were also the cheap low powered ones.  I'm sure this one is much more fun.  Granted, I also am not a hatchback fan nor am I a car guy, so my opinion shouldn't mean much.

I think 2018 is the year I get a new car.  My 2010 Civic runs well still with 135k miles, but cosmetically, it is starting to fall apart to the point that I am not really wanting to throw money into it.   I would really like something with a little more power to it, but also keep that low key image.  I only once got pulled over in this car (for something that was a trap and very obvious and standing out of me) and I think the low keyness of a civic really helps when I am flying on the highway amongst the sporty cars.  I could see myself going with a V6 Accord coupe for the next round.  But I am not totally sure if I'd want to sell my Civic or keep it as a spare car since the guts are still solid and I don't expect to get much for it since it doesn't look like it's in good shape.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on February 01, 2018, 04:49:05 AM
In March 2017 I leased a Ford Fusion Energi, which is a plug-in Hybrid and I absolutely love it. For financial reasons I'll likely finance it at the end of the lease, but a year or two into payments I'd like to switch over to something all electric. So far the Bolt, Leaf (which will be getting a big range increase in 2019), and eventually the Model 3 will all be great options, but I have reservations about all of them. Will be following this general segment of things closely over the next few years.

Even though I don't think it's a great looking car I'm a big fan of the Bolt. If you haven't, check out Doug Demuro's video on the Bolt on Youtube.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on February 01, 2018, 07:09:11 AM
In March 2017 I leased a Ford Fusion Energi, which is a plug-in Hybrid and I absolutely love it. For financial reasons I'll likely finance it at the end of the lease, but a year or two into payments I'd like to switch over to something all electric. So far the Bolt, Leaf (which will be getting a big range increase in 2019), and eventually the Model 3 will all be great options, but I have reservations about all of them. Will be following this general segment of things closely over the next few years.

Even though I don't think it's a great looking car I'm a big fan of the Bolt. If you haven't, check out Doug Demuro's video on the Bolt on Youtube.

Will do. In that same vein, I think the new Honda Clarity Plug-In seems to be an Accord like vehicle (which I love, even though I've never owned), but I think the styling on the back end will kill it for some people.

And FWIW, my two current big strikes against the Bolt are lack of power seats (with memory settings), and lack of Adaptive Cruise Control.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on February 01, 2018, 08:37:49 AM
Of course after the Bolt video from Doug the Model 3 video was recommended, and... WAAAAAAANNNNNNTTTT.

I currently drive over 20,000 miles a year and have no doubt I'd get used to the screen setup in the Model 3, especially as the controls will be refined by the time I'd ever be driving one, so it really comes down to price with that car.

Yeah, it's a $35k base, but tack on 1k for color option, 5k to get the options package, 5k for the enhanced autopilot, and 1k for destination and realistically, before even factoring in a desire for long range or AWD, you're looking at 47k for the car. Then the kick in the nuts is the tax credit will be gone at that point. So it'll be 47k for the Model 3 or likely under 35k after credits for the fully loaded Bolt or Leaf. That's a big gap.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on February 01, 2018, 09:20:38 AM
I thought autopilot came standard on the base model 3?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on February 01, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
I thought autopilot came standard on the base model 3?

Yes and no, it does have all the sensors and some minor capabilities, but to really be anything worthwhile you're looking to get enhanced autopilot.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on March 04, 2018, 05:57:37 AM
Yesterday my gf and I went out to lunch and we were discussing what I was going to get as a next car. There was a ford dealership down the rode from where we were eating so I said lets stop by. I ended up taking the new 2018 Mustang GT for a spin.

Holy shit the thing is fast and a lot of fun. I know I said I wanted the Veloster N, and I will still look at it when the time comes but I think I may pick one of these up at the end of the years. It's a bit more than I wanted to pay but not by much. I never really cared for mustangs but after the redesign in 2014 I thought they looked pretty good, we ended up having one as a rental a few years back and it was a ton of fun (it was the ecoboost) but this thing is a different beast, it looks sharper and drives incredibly well.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on March 13, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
I hear good things about the newer mustangs and the price point per power is pretty solid.  I'll have a rental when I road trip through Florida in a couple months, I'm sure it'll be the ecoboost though, but at least I'll get a good amount of experience with it. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 28, 2018, 12:29:45 PM
So I checked all over my state's DMV page for this, but its still ambitious.

Anybody know the process if I were to buy a vehicle from a private seller in a state that I don't reside? My thought is the seller signs the title over to me and I take the vehicle back with me. Then I go to my state's dmv and figure out the rest of the paperwork there.

I'm basically just trying to confirm what I am doing after I agree to buy.  I know that if I did it from a dealer, they would just issue temp tags, but the private selling is definitely not doing that.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Grappler on March 30, 2018, 07:33:28 AM
So I checked all over my state's DMV page for this, but its still ambitious.

Anybody know the process if I were to buy a vehicle from a private seller in a state that I don't reside? My thought is the seller signs the title over to me and I take the vehicle back with me. Then I go to my state's dmv and figure out the rest of the paperwork there.

I'm basically just trying to confirm what I am doing after I agree to buy.  I know that if I did it from a dealer, they would just issue temp tags, but the private selling is definitely not doing that.

Not sure about inter-state travel, but when I was a kid and my dad was buying used cars fairly often (he'd buy a convertible and work on it, then sell it and buy another to tinker with), he'd just take the license plates off of one of our other cars and put them on the used car for the ride home so he wasn't driving a vehicle without plates.  Once he got the car home, then he'd handle getting new license plates for it. 

If he were ever stopped, he'd have the paperwork with him showing that he just bought it from a private seller and was only trying to get it home.  Though it was certainly a shorter ride from suburb to suburb than crossing state lines.

You could always rent a truck/trailer or tow it to transport it as well.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on March 30, 2018, 11:28:21 AM
Iíd recommend against swapping plates on your car for any distance. If a cop runs your plate and you have a different car and he decides to be a dick you can pay some serious fines for driving an uninsured unregistered car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Grappler on March 30, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Well yes.  For a 15 minute jaunt from suburb to suburb, it was probably an acceptable risk for him.  For traveling a considerable distance between states, the risk is exponentially greater.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on March 30, 2018, 02:33:58 PM
So I checked all over my state's DMV page for this, but its still ambitious.

Anybody know the process if I were to buy a vehicle from a private seller in a state that I don't reside? My thought is the seller signs the title over to me and I take the vehicle back with me. Then I go to my state's dmv and figure out the rest of the paperwork there.

I'm basically just trying to confirm what I am doing after I agree to buy.  I know that if I did it from a dealer, they would just issue temp tags, but the private selling is definitely not doing that.

Not sure about inter-state travel, but when I was a kid and my dad was buying used cars fairly often (he'd buy a convertible and work on it, then sell it and buy another to tinker with), he'd just take the license plates off of one of our other cars and put them on the used car for the ride home so he wasn't driving a vehicle without plates.  Once he got the car home, then he'd handle getting new license plates for it. 

If he were ever stopped, he'd have the paperwork with him showing that he just bought it from a private seller and was only trying to get it home.  Though it was certainly a shorter ride from suburb to suburb than crossing state lines.

You could always rent a truck/trailer or tow it to transport it as well.

I can tell you from experience that if you live in Connecticut (like my son and I do) and buy a car in Massachusetts (like my son did) and drive it back and get pulled over (like my son did) you get a ticket with a good size fine to it.  I'm pretty sure you have to get a form from the DMV in that case (I don't remember; but it's on the CT DMV site, I know that).   

Might be worth a trip to the DMV info desk.  I wouldn't fuck around with that stuff, personally.    It's not that you'll see jail time, but it's all big pain in the ass if it goes sideways.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 30, 2018, 05:39:48 PM
That is good thinking.

The good news is its actually a motorcycle I'm buying and my step dad wants to just put in the back of his truck, so we should be good.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on March 31, 2018, 12:33:14 PM
So I checked all over my state's DMV page for this, but its still ambitious.

Anybody know the process if I were to buy a vehicle from a private seller in a state that I don't reside? My thought is the seller signs the title over to me and I take the vehicle back with me. Then I go to my state's dmv and figure out the rest of the paperwork there.

I'm basically just trying to confirm what I am doing after I agree to buy.  I know that if I did it from a dealer, they would just issue temp tags, but the private selling is definitely not doing that.

Not sure about inter-state travel, but when I was a kid and my dad was buying used cars fairly often (he'd buy a convertible and work on it, then sell it and buy another to tinker with), he'd just take the license plates off of one of our other cars and put them on the used car for the ride home so he wasn't driving a vehicle without plates.  Once he got the car home, then he'd handle getting new license plates for it. 

If he were ever stopped, he'd have the paperwork with him showing that he just bought it from a private seller and was only trying to get it home.  Though it was certainly a shorter ride from suburb to suburb than crossing state lines.

You could always rent a truck/trailer or tow it to transport it as well.

I can tell you from experience that if you live in Connecticut (like my son and I do) and buy a car in Massachusetts (like my son did) and drive it back and get pulled over (like my son did) you get a ticket with a good size fine to it.  I'm pretty sure you have to get a form from the DMV in that case (I don't remember; but it's on the CT DMV site, I know that).   

Might be worth a trip to the DMV info desk.  I wouldn't fuck around with that stuff, personally.    It's not that you'll see jail time, but it's all big pain in the ass if it goes sideways.
A ticket for what? What part of driving a care you just purchased before handling TTL is illegal? As a rule you have something like 14 days to get all of that taken care of.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 31, 2018, 03:14:51 PM
Ok, I found a bike in my own state, and its easy peasy in PA.  We just go to the auto tag place, they handle everything. I just sign on the dotted line and everything is transferred.

But on to the next question. Private seller. When do I exchange the cash? After the title transfer right?

Also, I am bringing someone with me, so I won't be alone
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on March 31, 2018, 04:00:52 PM
So I checked all over my state's DMV page for this, but its still ambitious.

Anybody know the process if I were to buy a vehicle from a private seller in a state that I don't reside? My thought is the seller signs the title over to me and I take the vehicle back with me. Then I go to my state's dmv and figure out the rest of the paperwork there.

I'm basically just trying to confirm what I am doing after I agree to buy.  I know that if I did it from a dealer, they would just issue temp tags, but the private selling is definitely not doing that.

Not sure about inter-state travel, but when I was a kid and my dad was buying used cars fairly often (he'd buy a convertible and work on it, then sell it and buy another to tinker with), he'd just take the license plates off of one of our other cars and put them on the used car for the ride home so he wasn't driving a vehicle without plates.  Once he got the car home, then he'd handle getting new license plates for it. 

If he were ever stopped, he'd have the paperwork with him showing that he just bought it from a private seller and was only trying to get it home.  Though it was certainly a shorter ride from suburb to suburb than crossing state lines.

You could always rent a truck/trailer or tow it to transport it as well.

I can tell you from experience that if you live in Connecticut (like my son and I do) and buy a car in Massachusetts (like my son did) and drive it back and get pulled over (like my son did) you get a ticket with a good size fine to it.  I'm pretty sure you have to get a form from the DMV in that case (I don't remember; but it's on the CT DMV site, I know that).   

Might be worth a trip to the DMV info desk.  I wouldn't fuck around with that stuff, personally.    It's not that you'll see jail time, but it's all big pain in the ass if it goes sideways.
A ticket for what? What part of driving a care you just purchased before handling TTL is illegal? As a rule you have something like 14 days to get all of that taken care of.

I'll ask my son when he gets here in about an hour; it was something like driving without a valid reg; it's something unique to Mass; you're right, in CT you have a grace period, where they don't bust your stones (but they really do when you push the grace period).  This was odd, and between you and me, I'm not ruling out a "mouthy" 22 year old, or a cop looking to lay down some law. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 05, 2018, 09:14:06 AM
I think it's time to replace the front struts on my 2007 Volvo V50.  There is quite a bit of rattling coming from the front end, however it's hard to determine if its the struts/mounts, or something else.  Last time I was in there replacing the control arms, I checked the steering linkage and sway bars, and everything seemed tight.  Dealer says they are shot, too (of course).

I was under the hood yesterday after changing the oil and noticed one of the struts was making a squishing noise when I bounced the car up and down. It didn't continue to bounce like a car with bad struts would, it just returned to the original height reasonably smoothly.  Even if they aren't totally shot, the car has 108,000 miles so they might as well be replaced anyway.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on April 05, 2018, 12:31:26 PM
I think it's time to replace the front struts on my 2007 Volvo V50.  There is quite a bit of rattling coming from the front end, however it's hard to determine if its the struts/mounts, or something else.  Last time I was in there replacing the control arms, I checked the steering linkage and sway bars, and everything seemed tight.  Dealer says they are shot, too (of course).

I was under the hood yesterday after changing the oil and noticed one of the struts was making a squishing noise when I bounced the car up and down. It didn't continue to bounce like a car with bad struts would, it just returned to the original height reasonably smoothly.  Even if they aren't totally shot, the car has 108,000 miles so they might as well be replaced anyway.
Suspension components are one thing I never bother trying to figure out on my own. It's all just too convoluted. Never trust a dealer to shoot straight with you about anything. They want to turn any used car into a new one. Any competent mechanic can get the car off the ground, spend 3 minutes with a flashlight and tell you exactly where your front end stands, and more importantly, point out to you what components are failing and how. Hearing that I need new bushing for the Heizenburg compensater doesn't tell me anything. Showing me a warn through rubber bushing that connects this to that tells me a great deal.   

When I bought my first BMW I took it to a dealer because it was running a little bit rough. Like very minor. They kept it for two days, did a service II, and handed me a list of repairs that included the head gasket, the power steering rack, and the radiator. Easily $5k+. I tightened the temp sensor in the side of the radiator which leaked a little under pressure. Then I drove it like the Bandit for 10 years and 150k miles without a single problem from the head gasket, the power steering rack, or the radiator. Not a damn thing wrong with any of them.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on April 05, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
I hit 120,000 miles on my Mini this morning. I'm torn on what to do with the thing and I still owe $4800 on it  ::).

It still bangs like a champ, but it's a pain in the ass owning a home and having that as my primary vehicle. I want a crew cab pickup truck. I want something that I can just throw crap in the back of without having to worry about destroying the inside of an SUV. However, I'm still going to have to commute 80+ miles a day. Part of me wants to dump the Mini and buy a Toyota Tacoma with 50k-60k miles on it, but then the other part of me wants to keep the Mini and buy a Toyota Tundra with 150Kish miles and just use it when needed.

The only two big ticket items on the Mini that might cost me a good chunk of change in the future are the clutch and the timing chain. Anything else that would normally go in the next 20K miles or so was replaced a few months ago. The Mini also needs new struts in the rear, and a brake job and new tires will probably be needed in the next three months.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on April 05, 2018, 01:02:33 PM
Suspension components are one thing I never bother trying to figure out on my own. It's all just too convoluted.

I LITERALLY had that same conversation with my step son - who is a licensed mechanic - on Saturday.   EXACTLY. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on April 05, 2018, 01:06:52 PM
I hit 120,000 miles on my Mini this morning. I'm torn on what to do with the thing and I still owe $4800 on it  ::).

It still bangs like a champ, but it's a pain in the ass owning a home and having that as my primary vehicle. I want a crew cab pickup truck. I want something that I can just throw crap in the back of without having to worry about destroying the inside of an SUV. However, I'm still going to have to commute 80+ miles a day. Part of me wants to dump the Mini and buy a Toyota Tacoma with 50k-60k miles on it, but then the other part of me wants to keep the Mini and buy a Toyota Tundra with 150Kish miles and just use it when needed.

The only two big ticket items on the Mini that might cost me a good chunk of change in the future are the clutch and the timing chain. Anything else that would normally go in the next 20K miles or so was replaced a few months ago. The Mini also needs new struts in the rear, and a brake job and new tires will probably be needed in the next three months.

Dude, same boat.  I have kids, too, though, which is a wrinkle.  I had a 2006 BMW X3, 115,000, and decided to keep it and bought a '98 Taco with 175k on it for $1500 cash.    It's a work truck, has some rash around the rear wheel wells, and I'm still trying to fix the emergency break, but it's all I need at this point.   

I will say, though, Tacos are tough; if they're cheap, they almost certainly have frame rot; that was a chronic problem, and in fact, they recalled (and scrapped) a ton of them.  They are still quality trucks - my brother and I have had four of them now, and every one cleared 200k (one broke 300, and I'm counting my current one, even though I'm still at 180 now; I should get there).   Despite the frame issue, they hold value; my truck books at $4K. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 05, 2018, 01:55:30 PM
Any competent mechanic can get the car off the ground, spend 3 minutes with a flashlight and tell you exactly where your front end stands, and more importantly, point out to you what components are failing and how.
I've hesitated to bring it to a garage without intending to give them the work.  I suppose any decent place should be totally cool with me throwing them a few bucks for their time, though.

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When I bought my first BMW I took it to a dealer because it was running a little bit rough. Like very minor. They kept it for two days, did a service II, and handed me a list of repairs that included the head gasket, the power steering rack, and the radiator. Easily $5k+. I tightened the temp sensor in the side of the radiator which leaked a little under pressure. Then I drove it like the Bandit for 10 years and 150k miles without a single problem from the head gasket, the power steering rack, or the radiator. Not a damn thing wrong with any of them.
Yeah, this was one item on their $5k list of recommended repairs when i brought it in, which included suspension arms, struts, ac compressor, and regular 75k mile service (whatever that was).  I brought it in so they could check the computer codes (proprietary, not the OBD) because the engine was momentarily losing power after starting in hot weather.  They had nothing to say about the engine, but they tallied up $5k in other stuff pretty quickly.

Engine power thing is out of sight out of mind since the end of the summer, but it will be back soon.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on April 05, 2018, 01:56:01 PM
I hit 120,000 miles on my Mini this morning. I'm torn on what to do with the thing and I still owe $4800 on it  ::).

It still bangs like a champ, but it's a pain in the ass owning a home and having that as my primary vehicle. I want a crew cab pickup truck. I want something that I can just throw crap in the back of without having to worry about destroying the inside of an SUV. However, I'm still going to have to commute 80+ miles a day. Part of me wants to dump the Mini and buy a Toyota Tacoma with 50k-60k miles on it, but then the other part of me wants to keep the Mini and buy a Toyota Tundra with 150Kish miles and just use it when needed.

The only two big ticket items on the Mini that might cost me a good chunk of change in the future are the clutch and the timing chain. Anything else that would normally go in the next 20K miles or so was replaced a few months ago. The Mini also needs new struts in the rear, and a brake job and new tires will probably be needed in the next three months.

Dude, same boat.  I have kids, too, though, which is a wrinkle.  I had a 2006 BMW X3, 115,000, and decided to keep it and bought a '98 Taco with 175k on it for $1500 cash.    It's a work truck, has some rash around the rear wheel wells, and I'm still trying to fix the emergency break, but it's all I need at this point.   

I will say, though, Tacos are tough; if they're cheap, they almost certainly have frame rot; that was a chronic problem, and in fact, they recalled (and scrapped) a ton of them.  They are still quality trucks - my brother and I have had four of them now, and every one cleared 200k (one broke 300, and I'm counting my current one, even though I'm still at 180 now; I should get there).   Despite the frame issue, they hold value; my truck books at $4K.

It amazes me how well the Tacomas hold their value. They're actually more expensive than a Tundra in a lot of instances when looking for a used on. My guess is that there aren't a whole lot of options in the used mid-sized pickup market. Many of the other truck makers did away with the mid-sized trucks for a few years. Whereas in the full-sized market, the Tundra has to compete with the F150, F250, and F350, the Chevy 1500, 2500, and 3500, the Dodge Ram 1500, 2500, and 3500, and the Nissan Titan.
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Post by: El Barto on April 05, 2018, 03:23:26 PM
Any competent mechanic can get the car off the ground, spend 3 minutes with a flashlight and tell you exactly where your front end stands, and more importantly, point out to you what components are failing and how.
I've hesitated to bring it to a garage without intending to give them the work.  I suppose any decent place should be totally cool with me throwing them a few bucks for their time, though.

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When I bought my first BMW I took it to a dealer because it was running a little bit rough. Like very minor. They kept it for two days, did a service II, and handed me a list of repairs that included the head gasket, the power steering rack, and the radiator. Easily $5k+. I tightened the temp sensor in the side of the radiator which leaked a little under pressure. Then I drove it like the Bandit for 10 years and 150k miles without a single problem from the head gasket, the power steering rack, or the radiator. Not a damn thing wrong with any of them.
Yeah, this was one item on their $5k list of recommended repairs when i brought it in, which included suspension arms, struts, ac compressor, and regular 75k mile service (whatever that was).  I brought it in so they could check the computer codes (proprietary, not the OBD) because the engine was momentarily losing power after starting in hot weather.  They had nothing to say about the engine, but they tallied up $5k in other stuff pretty quickly.

Engine power thing is out of sight out of mind since the end of the summer, but it will be back soon.
Independent Volvo mechanics aren't all that uncommon, assuming you don't live in rural Idaho. They'll have the gear to talk to the car. The "proprietaryness" of the thing is honestly just the numbers they assign to the trouble-codes. A decent shop will tie into the CANBUS, the car will throw some nubmers at them, and they'll cross reference them to Volvo's.

There are plenty of shops around here that are going to charge you an hour labor just to check it out, and more if they have to talk to the CANBUS. My regular guys and another shop I've used off and on are happy to put it on a lift and see what's up for nothing. From my experience it seems to come down to how nice and fancy their shop is. If they're just leasing space in some warehouse district they're interested in being nice to customers. If they're state of the art in some expensive property they're going to nickel and dime everybody they can.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 05, 2018, 08:10:57 PM
Nothing beats having a truck around Chino. I had a '16 Silverado and it was amazing. Bigger cab than my car, better gas milage, and far more useful. I wish I never got rid of it in the sale of the hotel.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on April 06, 2018, 07:39:47 AM
My civic needs some tie wraps to keep the bumper on at this point.  This has kind of been what I've been waiting for before I start getting serious about getting a new car.   Going to go to the Honda dealership on Saturday to just get some initial info and speak to a sales person.  Last time my car flat out stopped running so getting a new car was kind of an emergency and was needed quickly, even with the tie wraps, my current civic is runs well enough that I can survive for a bit, but I'd rather just get something that's not going to look like a disaster and I've been wanting to upgrade for awhile.  I'm really only interested in the Civic or Accord from Honda, I want to see if they have any older models laying around too, see if there's any price mark downs.  Also maybe come back there at the end of the month to see if prices went down.  But bottom line for what I am looking for, something with more power, I want more of the bells and whistles (moon roof, blu tooth, nice sound).  I'd rather a small car, maybe a coupe, but a smaller sedan works too.  Needs to be reliable (which is why I love my current civic, never had any issues with it) and I am not looking to spend over 30k (although some of my build your car models on their website have turned out to be slightly over, that's MSRP, I want to see how much lower I can possibly get such a car). 

Anyway, since my cars guts seem fine, it's just asthetics that's my issue.  I am also considering the idea of holding onto it and maybe just getting a used car or even leasing a car, if it makes sense with the dollars.  Just want to start exploring my options with actual sales people and not just within my head.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2018, 07:42:59 AM
So, it'll be months likely before proper reviews roll in, and end of year till even California dealers see it, but this new Hyundai Kona electric already excites me more than the Bolt and Leaf. And since, like those two, it will still be eligible for the full tax credit when I'd potentially buy in 2020 it is looking like a strong competitor to the Model 3 for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4opp_3ivk
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 06, 2018, 08:59:51 AM
So, it'll be months likely before proper reviews roll in, and end of year till even California dealers see it, but this new Hyundai Kona electric already excites me more than the Bolt and Leaf. And since, like those two, it will still be eligible for the full tax credit when I'd potentially buy in 2020 it is looking like a strong competitor to the Model 3 for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4opp_3ivk

Wow, that looks cool. I was checking out the gas version of the Kona for my next lease, I didn't even know they were working on an electric version.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2018, 10:26:30 AM
So, it'll be months likely before proper reviews roll in, and end of year till even California dealers see it, but this new Hyundai Kona electric already excites me more than the Bolt and Leaf. And since, like those two, it will still be eligible for the full tax credit when I'd potentially buy in 2020 it is looking like a strong competitor to the Model 3 for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4opp_3ivk

Wow, that looks cool. I was checking out the gas version of the Kona for my next lease, I didn't even know they were working on an electric version.

Yeah, the normal version out this year definitely looks cool as well. Did you happen to test the ultimate edition? It has the upgraded audio and that's one of those things that I won't trust any review on until I'm in the vehicle. One of the things I love about my Fusion is that the cabin is super quiet and the sound is really good.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: mikeyd23 on April 06, 2018, 10:45:27 AM
Yeah, the normal version out this year definitely looks cool as well. Did you happen to test the ultimate edition? It has the upgraded audio and that's one of those things that I won't trust any review on until I'm in the vehicle. One of the things I love about my Fusion is that the cabin is super quiet and the sound is really good.

I haven't been down to the dealer to test drive anything yet, my lease isn't up till the end of the year. So far I've just done research online and I like what I see from the Kona from the comfort of my desk chair. The dealer near me has like 30 in stock now, so maybe I'll check one out next time I'm down that way.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2018, 02:10:29 PM
Cool beans, let me know your thoughts.

In related news, because I can't help researching these things, I've come up with a magic number of $6,416. So what is that? It's the amount that the electric version (net rebates) can exceed the gas version and still be a draw after tax savings for the first 100,000 miles. Computed that as I do over 20,000 miles a year, so that's a 5 year span for me max, and used $3.00/gallon as my average on gas and $0.14 per KWh as my average on electricity. Still waiting for pricing of course, and other factors go into cost to own, but I don't foresee that number being hit. It would require a base price of about 34,000, which is less than both the Bolt and Model 3, so unlikely.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 06, 2018, 06:07:17 PM
Hyundai has really stepped up there game with this new geneartion of cars coming out. My gf has a 2017 sonata and it's a fantastic car, I think she wants the santa fe as her next car.

I'm still stuck on the mustang which is most likely going to be my birthday present to myself unless I get a spectacular deal and get it a bit sooner.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on April 07, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
Went to the Honda dealership this afternoon, wanted to check out and compare the Civics and Accords.  Turns out I kind of really liked the Civic Hatchback.  Gave it a test drive and liked it, felt similar to my current Civic but with a tad bit more umph with 40 more horse power and the turbo.  MSRP was 29k for the touring model (which is the trim I want), guy said he could do 26k and give 4k for the trade in (my 2010 Civic LX with 140k miles).  I was pretty impressed with that offer but told him I am shopping it around.  Very happy with how my first day of shopping went and that may be my next vehicle, but I still want to check out a few other dealers.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nick on April 07, 2018, 04:55:56 PM
Went to the Honda dealership this afternoon, wanted to check out and compare the Civics and Accords.  Turns out I kind of really liked the Civic Hatchback.  Gave it a test drive and liked it, felt similar to my current Civic but with a tad bit more umph with 40 more horse power and the turbo.  MSRP was 29k for the touring model (which is the trim I want), guy said he could do 26k and give 4k for the trade in (my 2010 Civic LX with 140k miles).  I was pretty impressed with that offer but told him I am shopping it around.  Very happy with how my first day of shopping went and that may be my next vehicle, but I still want to check out a few other dealers.

I would love to suggest checking out the Clarity (plug-in Hybrid), as it falls between the Civic and Accord, but I saw one in person for the first time the other day and can confirm what online looks led me to believe, which is that the back end is hideous.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 07, 2018, 05:19:21 PM
Nice cram :tup, glad to hear your first trip out to the dealer went well, I like how the civic hatchback looks however I'm not a fan of the new type-r, there is way too much going on in the back.

Today I feel down the trap of reading build threads for the Factory Five cobra replicas. If I had the money and time I would love to do a project like that.                                                                                                                                                                                         
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 13, 2018, 07:35:34 AM
Independent Volvo mechanics aren't all that uncommon, assuming you don't live in rural Idaho. They'll have the gear to talk to the car. The "proprietaryness" of the thing is honestly just the numbers they assign to the trouble-codes. A decent shop will tie into the CANBUS, the car will throw some nubmers at them, and they'll cross reference them to Volvo's.

There are plenty of shops around here that are going to charge you an hour labor just to check it out, and more if they have to talk to the CANBUS. My regular guys and another shop I've used off and on are happy to put it on a lift and see what's up for nothing. From my experience it seems to come down to how nice and fancy their shop is. If they're just leasing space in some warehouse district they're interested in being nice to customers. If they're state of the art in some expensive property they're going to nickel and dime everybody they can.
Yeah, I'm trying to find a reputable volvo shop where I live.  I know they exist, and I've been searching volvo forums for specific mentions or recommendations.  There is this "VIDA DICE" thing, which I believe is an integrated code reader and repair manual that runs on a pc.  I have an OBDII code reader, but not all dash messages throw an OBD code.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 18, 2018, 12:39:51 PM
About a month ago, i noticed the carpet in the rear driver's side was wet.  I thought a water bottle spilled, so i took out the mat and hung it to dry in front of a dehumidifier, and later had the dehumidifier inside the car running for about 2 days.  That seemed to clear it up.  Earlier this week I noticed there was still moisture in the carpet, and the front was also wet.  I soon realized my sun roof was not draining properly.  Sun roofs are not water tight and allow some water past the seal and into a gutter, eventually draining down a small hose along the A pillar and out in front of the firewall.  After Monday's nasty rain storm here in NJ, i was expecting severe moisture in the morning.  It was certainly wet, but not as terrible as I thought.  Last night I picked up some new plastic tubing to replace the old drain, and pulled up the carpet under the driver seat and foot well.  Parts of it were still dripping wet, and the metal frame still had a few small puddles of water.  Fortunately that piece of carpet is a separate piece, and I didn't have to pull up the rest of the floor.  I will probably pull up the rear carpet tonight and hang it alongside the front with the dehumidifier blowing on it overnight.  My wife had mentioned the car "smelled like feet" a few months ago, so this moisture must have been present for quite a long time.  Fortunately there is no visible rust or mold.

tl;dr- leaky sunroof, pulled up carpet to dry and will replace sunroof drain hoses.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on April 18, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Some of those hoses, though, are a pain in the ass.   

Where are you that you're looking for a Volvo tech (you can PM me if you want).
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 18, 2018, 02:47:57 PM
Im going from this

(https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/3867393/Images/Blog/active/Sunroof+(12).jpg) (https://blog.fcpeuro.com/p1-volvo-sunroof-drain-fix)

to this:

(https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/3867393/Images/Blog/active/Sunroof+(15).jpg) (https://blog.fcpeuro.com/p1-volvo-sunroof-drain-fix)

The tube ends at this goofy feed through onto the other side of the firewall, which I will keep in place:

(https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/3867393/Images/Blog/active/Sunroof+(3).jpg) (https://blog.fcpeuro.com/p1-volvo-sunroof-drain-fix)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on April 18, 2018, 04:40:58 PM
That looks like a smart step up, because if nothing else, you can monitor it for future blockages.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 18, 2018, 05:59:23 PM
Yeah, just have to take off the sun visor, overhead handle, A pillar trim and pull down the headliner...
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 18, 2018, 07:39:02 PM
Is that a VW you're driving? :lol

My golf used to get the sunroof drains clogged all the time.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on April 18, 2018, 09:42:33 PM
Volvo.  I don't think it's unique to any make, though.  I had a Toyota with the same issue about 15 years ago.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 19, 2018, 04:01:55 AM
I'm looking forward to next weekend, I'm going to do some serious car shopping and start making a short list of what I want.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on April 26, 2018, 08:43:12 PM
Really frustrating past couple days with car. Driving to work a couple days ago battery light comes on, power steering gone welp that means my serpentine belt broke, I've dealt with this before. Luckily I was close enough to home that I just coasting my car home and took my bike to work. That night take off the fan only to realize that the belt is fine, and in great shape all the pulleys look great too, looks like my (what I thought was small) oil leak was getting on the pulleys and caused my belt to come off. I thought fuck it, it's an oil filter housing gasket, I'll swap that out, $6 for the gasket. Pull the power steering & alternator change the gasket and I"m doing up the bolts. Get to the last bolt of the housing when the bolt strips. FUCKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't over torque it or even get close, so now I have ot run to bmw pick up a new bolt get it as tight as I can and call it a day.

Fucking fuck fuck fuck shit fuck.

//Rant
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 02, 2018, 06:55:26 AM
Volvo.  I don't think it's unique to any make, though.  I had a Toyota with the same issue about 15 years ago.
Apparently there was a class action lawsuit regarding poor sunroof drains on this model.  Volvo knew about it during production, but it remained an internal memo only, with a technical service b5ulletin sent to service centers.  I just emailed them to see what I could get.  New carpet would be great, and having them install it would be even better.

Edit: argh..

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At this time, there is no recall or extended warranty pertaining to this matter.  You may proceed with inspection of your concern at a an authorized Volvo retailer and the needed repair can be reviewed for cost assistance.  These decisions are made on a case by case basis, so assistance is no way guaranteed.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 02, 2018, 07:03:11 AM
On another subject, I have been using my smartphone and the car stereo aux input.  The aux cable is male TRS (tip ring sleeve) on both ends, and I am getting random signals into the phone's mic pin which causes the music to pause, skip, and fools the phone into thinking its receiving voice commands.  I know there are TRS-TRRS adapters, but there seem to be so many configurations and permutations, that I'm not sure exactly which is the one I need.  It seems to me that the male input to the phone should have TRRS, with the mic ring floating rather than grounded to the sleeve, and the other end TRS.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on May 03, 2018, 08:37:02 AM
Random KIA rant.
Love the Sorento. Lots of vehicle for less money. But decided to double down on the already good warranty by buying the extended. Essentially bumper to bumper for 10 years. bad bad bad move....

Turns out. The extended is through a secondary company. Tri-core insurance or some such. And the instant I purchased it, it over ruled the original KIA warranty. Gets better. Because they're a separate company from KIA the dealer becomes handcuffed and is essentially making insurance claims on your behalf when ever things go wrong on the vehicle. It's not a lemon, but shit breaks...hockey sticks break...everything breaks. In our case it was the shift lock when putting the vehicle in park. It wouldn't 100% believe it WAS in park and wouldn't allow us to start the vehicle. But there was no code, nothing to bill to tricore, no loaner, no solution  - and much frustration from mrs. ytse that her KIA truck randomly wouldn't start where ever she might be. We left it at dealerships over nights, weekends, an entire WEEK. They couldn't recreate the problem. Of course not. It started every time because they never drove it anywhere and thus never had to put it BACK into park. It was that question that allowed me and the service manager to solve the problem. In fairness to the dealer/manager/service staff they were pretty damn good. And having researched this problem I've heard others in the same boat. So why would KIA Canada or KIA USA enter into this type of agreement with an independent company when the average citizen could have told them dealing with any kind of insurance company is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 03, 2018, 09:22:39 AM
Damn. I would never guess that extended warranty would override manufacturer's warranty like that.  I turned down all extended warranty offers last time i bought a new car, but not for any particular reasons other than not understanding exactly how i can get screwed by them.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 03, 2018, 10:40:47 AM
My GF's father bought a new F-350 toward the end of 2016. He bought the upgraded suspension package, as well as the winter and plow package combo. They sold him on getting the extended drivetrain warranty because it's a work truck and he often times has the bed loaded and is pulling a trailer. I think he said he paid like $3200 for it. Anyway, his transmission blew at like 30,000 miles and the dealer said the warranty didn't cover it because the truck was used to plow... They invalidated the warranty they sold him because of another upgrade they sold him. He went ballistic in the dealership and now drives a Chevy 3500. First time he hasn't had a Ford in more than 30 years.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2018, 06:57:12 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Grappler on May 04, 2018, 07:39:20 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something.

I can't speak to the car shaking, but I've had a very loud clicking sound that occurs when you adjust either climate control (hot/cold) or the inside/outside air vent control.  It's an actuator in the dash that controls the vents - my car has at least 3.  I had two replaced and a third just started clicking.

The gears on the actuator are plastic and wear down with use and time.  The clicking is the actuator gears slipping while trying to move the vent.  That could be related to your issue, though my car doesn't shake when it happens. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2018, 08:09:58 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something.

I can't speak to the car shaking, but I've had a very loud clicking sound that occurs when you adjust either climate control (hot/cold) or the inside/outside air vent control.  It's an actuator in the dash that controls the vents - my car has at least 3.  I had two replaced and a third just started clicking.

The gears on the actuator are plastic and wear down with use and time.  The clicking is the actuator gears slipping while trying to move the vent.  That could be related to your issue, though my car doesn't shake when it happens.

And wouldn't you only hear that sound when the actuators were trying to make adjustments to the vents? Mine noise never stops.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 04, 2018, 08:10:37 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something.
Some part of your blower motor broke apart at high speed and now it's majorly out of balance.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2018, 08:13:55 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something.
Some part of your blower motor broke apart at high speed and now it's majorly out of balance.

That's what I was thinking. Do you think it's the motor itself, or a blade on a fan attached to the motor? It would surprise me that a motor would cause the level of vibrations I'm feeling though, unless it's way bigger than I'm anticipating. Not saying you're wrong.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2018, 08:16:16 AM
I realized while driving last night I never hit the "max" button on my climate control console. I pushed it and the vents roared to life. Then there was a huge bang and it sounded like a helicopter was taking off. Now if my fan is on anything higher than 2 (out of 6), the whole car shakes and you get an awful earful of something.
Some part of your blower motor broke apart at high speed and now it's majorly out of balance.

That's what I was thinking. Do you think it's the motor itself, or a blade on a fan attached to the motor? It would surprise me that a motor would cause the level of vibrations I'm feeling though, unless it's way bigger than I'm anticipating. Not saying you're wrong.

Sounds like this is the problem.

https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/MINI_R56/112-ELEC-Blower_Motor_Replacement/112-ELEC-Blower_Motor_Replacement.htm

If your blower motor fails, replace the blower and resistor together. You don't want to have to go back in if one fails later. Over time, a blower motor may become noisy as the motor electrical contacts wear. The blower fan cages also fracture, creating a vibration when the blower is ON. If it fails or becomes noisy, you can use this procedure for the repairs.

Replacing the blower motor is no easy task. You will have to work high up behind the instrument panel in an uncomfortable position. If you suspect your blower final stage or blower are faulty, see our tech article on blower motor and final stage testing to confirm your suspicion.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 04, 2018, 08:22:06 AM
That sucks. The squirrel cage in mine is a notorious pain in the ass, but at least you're working from the top down. I hate working up from the floorboard. Mine is accessed from engine compartment. The flip side is that that the resistor is under the dash, so if you do both you're doing two separate jobs.

If you do it yourself be careful not to let any dirt or dust get in there. You'll never get it out and it'll bug you. I've got what sounds like a tiny pebble that flies from one side of the car to the other when I corner fast.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 04, 2018, 08:25:24 AM
That sucks. The squirrel cage in mine is a notorious pain in the ass, but at least you're working from the top down. I hate working up from the floorboard. Mine is accessed from engine compartment. The flip side is that that the resistor is under the dash, so if you do both you're doing two separate jobs.

If you do it yourself be careful not to let any dirt or dust get in there. You'll never get it out and it'll bug you. I've got what sounds like a tiny pebble that flies from one side of the car to the other when I corner fast.

I don't do anything on my cars. I don't trust myself enough, nor do I have the luxury of having it be out of commission for a few days while I fix whatever I'm working on. When I bring it to a dealer or a garage, I get a loaner. This really blows though. I still owe $4k on the car and was hoping to just be able to dump it for $2k-$3k once I was finally done paying it off. Now I have to decide what I want to do about this.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 04, 2018, 08:31:57 AM
Give yourself a little more credit, dude. Between that monstrosity in your basement and some of your carpentry projects, this will be a cakewalk. Order the part online. Suffer through it until next weekend. Spend 4 hours on a Saturday fixing it. You'll save $600 and feel better about it afterward. This isn't replacing a head gasket or anything. Besides, if you fuck it up it won't cost anymore to have a pro do it later.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on May 04, 2018, 08:45:47 AM
I've done that job as well, and it's as el Barto explains it.   I don't know your car, but the BMWs I worked on were a pain in the ass but eminently do-able.   

el Barto, if memory serves that was a VERY common problem on the E30 and E36 BMWs; is Chino's problem a remnant of that, or unrelated? 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 04, 2018, 09:29:46 AM
I've done that job as well, and it's as el Barto explains it.   I don't know your car, but the BMWs I worked on were a pain in the ass but eminently do-able.   

el Barto, if memory serves that was a VERY common problem on the E30 and E36 BMWs; is Chino's problem a remnant of that, or unrelated?
I never had that issue with my E30 or E36 over 13 years. It's definitely an issue with the E46, though. As far as I know the problem with those is just that the bearings fail and it sounds like a cricket in the dash. That's what's going on with mine. In my case the chirping is relative to the CoG. When the car is steady it's barely there. When I'm accelerating it's pronounced. As soon as I hit the brakes it's silent.

Sounds like his blew apart. That doesn't sound very common to me. My best guess would be that the bearings have been failing for a while, producing enough slop on the sides that cranking it up to full power shook the thing apart. Or, it the bearings created enough slop for it to bang against the casing. That would definitely do it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 05, 2018, 09:16:29 PM
Give yourself a little more credit, dude. Between that monstrosity in your basement and some of your carpentry projects, this will be a cakewalk. Order the part online. Suffer through it until next weekend. Spend 4 hours on a Saturday fixing it. You'll save $600 and feel better about it afterward. This isn't replacing a head gasket or anything. Besides, if you fuck it up it won't cost anymore to have a pro do it later.

This! I've seen stuff you do Chino and it's impressive. There is going to be a forum post, youtube video, online guide out there walking you through all the steps you need to fix the issue. It's how I starting working on cars initially.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 08, 2018, 12:29:28 PM
I found a local Volvo shop and the guy was very willing to look at my car without committing to having do any work.  He did a test drive with me for a few miles and after putting it on a lift found that the rattling sound in my suspension was a sway bar end link.  Besides that, he didn't have anything else besides what I already knew needed to be done.  He then asked about the timing belt, which is another item that's just exceeded its 10 year life.  For belt, tensioner, idler pulley, water pump and serpentine belt, he quoted $1200.  Damn.  I got a dealer quote for the timing belt (which probably included only the belt) for $750, but I'm sure the price would be well north of this guy with the other parts/labor included.  He said it would be a 6 hour job, and might go up to $2000 if he VVT needs replacing.  He also said its $800 in parts, but even with volvo original parts, its only about 250-300 in parts.  I really liked the guy and he seems straight with his business; we talked for over an hour about volvos and various other nonsense, but his prices seem just too high.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 08, 2018, 12:54:24 PM
Never heard of a timing belt that took 6 hours to replace. I'd be calling around on that.

Sadly, it's pretty common for places to mark up parts quite a bit now. Used to be that you paid a mechanic for labor and expertise. Now you're paying him retail on the parts he installs. Basically, you've got cost, let's say 100. Then you've got the "list" price, $200. And then the dealer price, $300. The mechanic will sell it to you for $150 and claim he gave you a 50% discount off of the list price.

Hell, I had a mechanic that charged you for oil even if you brought your own in (he didn't use my brand). Just like dealers marking up prices is an important part of their model.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 08, 2018, 01:20:17 PM
Yeah, 6 hours seems like what it would take me who has never done one before.  His rate is $100/hour, which isn't totally unreasonable around here, though ive heard of shops that charge 75.   It would be $850 total with me buying the parts.

Edit:  He said he uses this tool to keep the cams locked, which requires access to the other end of the head to install, and presumable more labor.  It seems in most write-ups people don't do this.

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Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 08, 2018, 01:57:08 PM
Yeah, if he needs access to the front and the back he's dumping a lot more time into it. While I can certainly understand wanting the cams locked down, it sure does seem like there would be simpler ways of doing it. If I had to take a guess I'd say that he's taking the safest, most conservative approach, passing the added time along to you. He probably took a bath once doing one when somebody drove off and had their valves turn into mangled mass of steel a block from the shop. Decided to take a different approach.

Sometimes it's best to let others assume risk. There's a part on my car called a DISA (German acronym for a variable length intake). They wear out and replacing them is a 20 minute job. Every once in a while it'll break when you try to remove it and drop bits of plastic into one of the cylinders. Now you're having to tear into the top of your motor. Suffice it to say, that's a 20 minute job I'll pay my mechanic to do.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 09, 2018, 09:42:02 AM
Timing Belt?

That was a $900 all day job for my uncle's shop (2005 PT Cruiser) a few years ago. Other places quoted $1200+ or just laughed at me when I asked for a quote. 

My other half bought another '05 PT after her first one was totaled, and we are going to have to deal with that bullshit in another 20k miles.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 09, 2018, 11:32:22 AM
Timing Belt?

That was a $900 all day job for my uncle's shop (2005 PT Cruiser) a few years ago. Other places quoted $1200+ or just laughed at me when I asked for a quote. 

My other half bought another '05 PT after her first one was totaled, and we are going to have to deal with that bullshit in another 20k miles.

When my timing belt went in my 2000 Passat, it was $3800ish in damage.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 09, 2018, 12:36:27 PM
Lol, anecdotes range from "$13 and 20 minutes in my driveway" (not for my car, but i've read this) to "$3800ish in damage".
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 09, 2018, 12:43:30 PM
Lol, anecdotes range from "$13 and 20 minutes in my driveway" (not for my car, but i've read this) to "$3800ish in damage".

Changing the belt is one thing. Having to replace the damage caused by a broken belt results in far more than just the belt needing to be changed. 4 cylinder heads were damaged and had to be remilled. 16 valves needed to be replaced. Etc..
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 09, 2018, 01:10:08 PM
Lol, anecdotes range from "$13 and 20 minutes in my driveway" (not for my car, but i've read this) to "$3800ish in damage".

Changing the belt is one thing. Having to replace the damage caused by a broken belt results in far more than just the belt needing to be changed. 4 cylinder heads were damaged and had to be remilled. 16 valves needed to be replaced. Etc..
Ah, I didn't interpret in your post that it failed.  Yikes.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 09, 2018, 02:26:41 PM
Yeah, a cam belt failure on an interference engine is quite often a car killer. If your car is a non-interference engine it'll just sputter, die, and your mechanic will slap a new belt on. Off you go.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 09, 2018, 04:08:38 PM
Timing Belt?

That was a $900 all day job for my uncle's shop (2005 PT Cruiser) a few years ago. Other places quoted $1200+ or just laughed at me when I asked for a quote. 

My other half bought another '05 PT after her first one was totaled, and we are going to have to deal with that bullshit in another 20k miles.

When my timing belt went in my 2000 Passat, it was $3800ish in damage.

My first car was a 2001 VW Golf and it had a ridiculous timing belt interval, something like 40k miles.

Being a broke college student I didn't replace it until around 120k.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 14, 2018, 11:50:32 AM
I called another Volvo shop to quote this timing belt job.  Same job, same parts replaced, they quoted $850 compared to $1200 from the first quote, which had an option to go to $2000 with potential VVT service.  Damn.  Its a shop that specializes in a bunch of euro makes, and they have 4 stars on yelp, however a one-star comment ends with "The positive reviews have GOT TO BE pure buddy system bullcrap".  The positive ones do seem a bit more enthusiastic than a simply satisfied customer might write.  It seems to be a reasonably large business, unlike the sole proprietor with assistant I saw previously.

My hesitancy stems from a co worker who had his timing belt replaced and months later had an aux belt failure.  My memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think it then interfered with the timing belt which then damaged the engine.  I want to make sure I have some recourse after this repair if something goes south.  He used a dealer, and was able to go to corporate to get it resolved.

Gonna call one more place, then just pull the trigger on something.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on May 15, 2018, 02:15:43 PM
I called another Volvo shop to quote this timing belt job.  Same job, same parts replaced, they quoted $850 compared to $1200 from the first quote, which had an option to go to $2000 with potential VVT service.  Damn.  Its a shop that specializes in a bunch of euro makes, and they have 4 stars on yelp, however a one-star comment ends with "The positive reviews have GOT TO BE pure buddy system bullcrap".  The positive ones do seem a bit more enthusiastic than a simply satisfied customer might write.  It seems to be a reasonably large business, unlike the sole proprietor with assistant I saw previously.

I know someone who owns a local car wash and also know for a fact that he makes BS yelp/online reviews to make his star rating higher.  Wouldn't be surprised if your instincts are correct.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 16, 2018, 10:17:24 AM
Would he happen to be in Texas?  I checked out a forum post from a detailer who recommended this place in NJ, and he was in Texas, lol.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on May 16, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
I wasn't part of it, myself, but I know of a bar in Philly that the patrons all sat there - locals, regulars - and posting reviews while joking about what they were writing with the bartender and manager.   Not exactly arms-length and objective.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on May 16, 2018, 01:06:37 PM
Would he happen to be in Texas?  I checked out a forum post from a detailer who recommended this place in NJ, and he was in Texas, lol.

 :lol maybe since he is in NJ, could of swapped it up to look different.

As for autos, my battery died Monday morning.  Got it replaced, but not only that, my bumped officially fell off.  I had it parked on the street outside my gf's apartment and I think someone tapped the corner of it knocking it off (I say tapped because it was kind of hanging onto it's last threads and I only saw a small scrape on the bumper).  I tie wrapped it back on and actually it looks better than it did before  :lol  I think I got myself anohter year in the car before I re-evaluate and look around again.  I had some money saved up for a down payment this year but I'll hold onto it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 17, 2018, 10:14:42 AM
As for autos, my battery died Monday morning.  Got it replaced, but not only that, my bumped officially fell off.  I had it parked on the street outside my gf's apartment and I think someone tapped the corner of it knocking it off (I say tapped because it was kind of hanging onto it's last threads and I only saw a small scrape on the bumper).  I tie wrapped it back on and actually it looks better than it did before  :lol  I think I got myself anohter year in the car before I re-evaluate and look around again.  I had some money saved up for a down payment this year but I'll hold onto it.

Is there anything else mechanically wrong with the car?  Otherwise just replace the bumper and keep driving it.

OK, another dealer quote of $1118.  Oddly, my second lowest of 4 quotes (ranging from $850 to $1800).  Trying to justify spending/saving the $268 by deciding its value.  I don't have to rent a car for the day (or 2, or 3..) it takes the dealer to do the job, and their warranty is better than an independent shop (which may be more perception than anything).  Maybe that $268 is nothing more than expensive insurance and convenience.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on May 17, 2018, 10:17:59 AM
Nothing else wrong, so it seems.  Im cool with the tie wrapped bumper vs buying a new one.  I just don't want to put money into the car unless it's basic maintenance at this point.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on May 17, 2018, 10:31:02 AM
Oh car woes. If it's not mine or my GF's, its the work car.

2004 Prius with 180k miles on it.

Getting not just a check engine light, but an indicator on that makes me feel as if the car is going to blow up :lol

It looks like the batteries are getting close to over heating.  Meaning I get to take it into a Toyota dealer probably Monday.  I have a feeling that if it is too much to fix the issue, my boss is going to tell us to park it for however long until he can figure out what he wants to do with it. Which sucks for me... as having that car makes my life a lot easier during the day :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 18, 2018, 08:02:37 PM
I moved about 6 months ago, and just noticed an E39 M5 in a driveway a few blocks down.  Gotta find that guy outside at some point and chew his ear a bit.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 06:20:32 AM
I had to flatbed my car to Mini last Friday. It was having trouble running and the engine would cut down to like 400rpm if I took my foot off the gas. When I pressed in the clutch, the car would stall.

Just got a call from the dealership, and they're telling me I need a new engine. Something about head gaskets, oil corroding the coolant system, and coolant being found in the engine. I'm going down there on my lunch break to see what's up. The rep I spoke to says they can't say for 100% if it needs a new engine without doing 5-9 hours of tear down. In his experience, when these symptoms show up, it almost always results in an engine swap or a rebuild that costs more in labor and parts than just swapping the engine.

Now I'm wondering if this could be related to that vibration issue I talked about on the previous page.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 22, 2018, 06:56:15 AM
Ouch.  I can only guess what's involved in attempting to repair that.  It might be worthwhile for a capable and equipped DIYer, but paying for someone else's labor to fix this may well be more than a new engine.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 22, 2018, 08:37:32 AM
I had to flatbed my car to Mini last Friday. It was having trouble running and the engine would cut down to like 400rpm if I took my foot off the gas. When I pressed in the clutch, the car would stall.

Just got a call from the dealership, and they're telling me I need a new engine. Something about head gaskets, oil corroding the coolant system, and coolant being found in the engine. I'm going down there on my lunch break to see what's up. The rep I spoke to says they can't say for 100% if it needs a new engine without doing 5-9 hours of tear down. In his experience, when these symptoms show up, it almost always results in an engine swap or a rebuild that costs more in labor and parts than just swapping the engine.

Now I'm wondering if this could be related to that vibration issue I talked about on the previous page.
Had it overheated recently? That's usually what blows head gaskets. Your car isn't so old that age would have gotten to it, unless they're really using shit parts.

If coolant is in the crankcase (milky sludge on the dipstick) then it's all over. On that car a new (or pre-owned) engine is probably cheaper than rebuilding the top. A new engine probably isn't required, unless you really overheated the hell out of it. A new cylinder head may or may not be, but that's something they won't know until they do a helluva lot of labor to find out. If the head is warped then it has to be replaced. If the gasket just blew then the head can be machined and reused. Either way you're looking at a pretty big check. My sympathies. In BMW world this is what kills cars.

One thing I would suggest is shopping the job around. There's so much labor involved that knocking $75/hr off will make a huge difference. As will some after-market parts. There might be a new radiator in your future, for example.

BTW, when pondering if you want to fix the car, how old is the clutch? That's another $1500 job that might be on your horizon.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 08:49:33 AM
I had to flatbed my car to Mini last Friday. It was having trouble running and the engine would cut down to like 400rpm if I took my foot off the gas. When I pressed in the clutch, the car would stall.

Just got a call from the dealership, and they're telling me I need a new engine. Something about head gaskets, oil corroding the coolant system, and coolant being found in the engine. I'm going down there on my lunch break to see what's up. The rep I spoke to says they can't say for 100% if it needs a new engine without doing 5-9 hours of tear down. In his experience, when these symptoms show up, it almost always results in an engine swap or a rebuild that costs more in labor and parts than just swapping the engine.

Now I'm wondering if this could be related to that vibration issue I talked about on the previous page.
Had it overheated recently? That's usually what blows head gaskets. Your car isn't so old that age would have gotten to it, unless they're really using shit parts.

If coolant is in the crankcase (milky sludge on the dipstick) then it's all over. On that car a new (or pre-owned) engine is probably cheaper than rebuilding the top. A new engine probably isn't required, unless you really overheated the hell out of it. A new cylinder head may or may not be, but that's something they won't know until they do a helluva lot of labor to find out. If the head is warped then it has to be replaced. If the gasket just blew then the head can be machined and reused. Either way you're looking at a pretty big check. My sympathies. In BMW world this is what kills cars.

One thing I would suggest is shopping the job around. There's so much labor involved that knocking $75/hr off will make a huge difference. As will some after-market parts. There might be a new radiator in your future, for example.

BTW, when pondering if you want to fix the car, how old is the clutch? That's another $1500 job that might be on your horizon.

It hasn't overheated since 75K miles ago when the water pump died. However, I have noticed that on a hot day, the cooling fans will stay on for 10+ minutes after shutting the car off. The car just passed 122K miles and the clutch is definitely on my mind.

I'm leaning toward not fixing the thing despite still owing $3600 on it (to a bank, not Mini). I can't wrap my head around spending a few thousand dollars only to risk having the clutch or transmission go a month after I repair it. I've wanted a mid-sized pickup or a large SUV for a while now. The dealer's online inventory shows that they have a 2015 Mazda CX-9 in the price range I'm looking for. I might try to work something out with them on that. I'd really prefer to not have to tow the car back to my house to just let it sit while I try and dump it on someone who's willing to change the engine.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 22, 2018, 08:59:23 AM
Cooling fans remaining on is a good thing. If they're secondary fans in front of the radiator they don't do a whole lot. If they're electric engine fans they do a great deal.

And just to be clear, I wasn't necessarily suggesting an independent shop replace the engine. An outside mechanic might be able to replace the gasket much cheaper. The new (used) engine is just often times cheaper than repairing the head.

~115k is generally considered clutch territory. If they're using the same components BMW uses, pretty likely, bump that up to >140k. Sachs makes a pretty fine clutch.

And you're a bright guy, so I'm sure you're mindful of this, but buying a car from the same people that tell you your old one is toast is dodgy. They know they have you over a barrel.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 09:20:08 AM
Cooling fans remaining on is a good thing. If they're secondary fans in front of the radiator they don't do a whole lot. If they're electric engine fans they do a great deal.

And just to be clear, I wasn't necessarily suggesting an independent shop replace the engine. An outside mechanic might be able to replace the gasket much cheaper. The new (used) engine is just often times cheaper than repairing the head.

~115k is generally considered clutch territory. If they're using the same components BMW uses, pretty likely, bump that up to >140k. Sachs makes a pretty fine clutch.

And you're a bright guy, so I'm sure you're mindful of this, but buying a car from the same people that tell you your old one is toast is dodgy. They know they have you over a barrel.

Yeah. I'm not set in stone on it, just keeping it in the back of my mind.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
Dealer just said the repair will be $10,500 on the low end
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 22, 2018, 01:01:16 PM
Dealer just said the repair will be $10,500 on the low end
I'm guessing that's a new engine and a new cooling system. Did they tell you what the actual damage was, or are they just assuming a new engine is the best way to go? The options are that the gasket is blown, the head is warped/cracked, or the engine block is cracked. If it's just the gasket an independent shop is going to come in closer to 2k. Book time is going to be ~14hrs. If you don't need a new head the parts aren't all that bad.

Sucks that things like this have gotten so expensive. When I was 18 I needed a head gasket for my Cellica and was pissed off that it was going to run me $600. Hell, I had my RX7 Wanker completely rebuilt for about a grand.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 01:07:01 PM
They can't give me an exact diagnosis without disassembling the majority of the engine. I told them to not bother. The techs ruled out the head gasket because when they put coolant in, the level doesn't change. It's going straight into the engine. If it was the head gasket, that wouldn't be the case. He said it was some kind of plug that failed and that allowed the coolant to get into everything else. They said I was going to need a new block for sure, and unless they can get into there, there's no way of knowing the extent of the rest of the damage (cylinders, piston heads, etc..). They said just dropping a whole new engine in would be cheaper than just getting a new block and transferring everything from the old engine into the new one.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 22, 2018, 01:49:41 PM
That sucks. Do a search for Mini freeze plug failure and you'll find a lot of info. It's happened to more than a few folk. It's also been misdiagnosed by plenty of dealers, or at least exaggerated. If you were desperate it might be worth a second opinion, but I'd be so pissed off I'd just look to run as fast as I could from it.

Seems the motors in those things were manufactured by Peugeot. That actually explains a lot. The French have no business building cars.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 22, 2018, 02:05:16 PM
Yep :/ I'm cutting ties with it completely. I'm done with it. It was a fun ride, but I probably wont be getting another one any time soon. I'd love one as a weekend cruiser, but with my commute it's a bitch of a daily driver now that the miles have accumulated like they have.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 22, 2018, 09:23:17 PM
Goddamn Chino that sucks. I was going to add some thoughts to the thread but Barto covered everything I wanted to add. Honestly mini's reliability is questionable at best. Anecdotally speaking my buddy has a 2016 that spew all it's oil out within 2 weeks of ownership of his new Mini.

What is your plan now? New car?

After doing a large overhaul of my bmw it's working like a champ now, I just need it to work long enough until I get my mustang delivered.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 23, 2018, 08:51:16 AM
I'm getting a new car for sure.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on May 23, 2018, 07:51:41 PM
Are you still thinking of getting a truck?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 24, 2018, 05:59:49 AM
I'd still love to get one, but that's probably not in the cards. I was planning on being able to build up a sizeable down payment over the next 8-10 months and then look at one, but I can't do that now.

I really don't want to take any more than $3K out of my savings for this, and I have just over $3K in matured bonds I'm cashing in (thanks first communion!). I'm really not looking to finance any more than $15K for 48 months. So when looking at trucks, that puts anything in my price range somewhere in 90K-110K mile territory. Seeing as I commute 70-100 miles a day, that's unfortunately not really going to work.

Basically I'm just looking for something big that will hold me over for four years.

I'm looking at this.
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It's not my first choice, but I don't have time to shop around and it matches all my criteria. I liked my previous Mazda a lot and this is surprisingly sporty to drive. I drove three of them yesterday and all were great. The one above has basically every option other than the 20" wheels and the fancy review mirror that dims itself. It's got 50K miles on it. I think I'm going to pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 24, 2018, 09:09:10 AM
The dealership was really being stubborn on the price of the vehicle I'm looking at. I couldn't get them to budge (I came at them with a good figure early on that got rejected really quick). However, I got them to put on new tires, brakes, and calipers, so that's kind of okay I guess.

I'm going down tonight to look at it on a lift and will be giving them a down payment if everything looks okay under there. I'll be taking delivery tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 24, 2018, 09:41:59 AM
The dealership was really being stubborn on the price of the vehicle I'm looking at. I couldn't get them to budge (I came at them with a good figure early on that got rejected really quick). However, I got them to put on new tires, brakes, and calipers, so that's kind of okay I guess.

I'm going down tonight to look at it on a lift and will be giving them a down payment if everything looks okay under there. I'll be taking delivery tomorrow afternoon.
If you know anybody who works on cars, you should take him along with you. You can pay him in lettuce or something. I know a bit about cars, but I can never see any problems when I'm inspecting them. Somebody who works on them will whip out a flashlight and point out half a dozen problems right off the bat. Barring that, tell the dealer you're driving it to another shop for a PPI. Should run you $150 or so, and buy you a tremendous amount of piece of mind.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 24, 2018, 09:45:17 AM
Oh yeah, I meant to mention that and didn't. I already told them before I finalize anything with ink, I'd like to get under it while it's on a lift. I have a mechanic buddy coming down with me.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on May 24, 2018, 09:50:52 AM
Oh yeah, I meant to mention that and didn't. I already told them before I finalize anything with ink, I'd like to get under it while it's on a lift. I have a mechanic buddy coming down with me.
Excellent. It always blows my mind how many obvious things a mechanic will find that I should have caught. Just knowing where to look for signs of oil leaks makes a huge difference, since after they clean it there might only be a drop or two. Also, did you see the tires before they replaced them? Worn evenly?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 24, 2018, 09:55:51 AM
Oh yeah, I meant to mention that and didn't. I already told them before I finalize anything with ink, I'd like to get under it while it's on a lift. I have a mechanic buddy coming down with me.
Excellent. It always blows my mind how many obvious things a mechanic will find that I should have caught. Just knowing where to look for signs of oil leaks makes a huge difference, since after they clean it there might only be a drop or two. Also, did you see the tires before they replaced them? Worn evenly?

Yeah. The wear looked pretty even to me. Hard to tell from tire to tire, but as far as the tread wear on each tire, all looked good. It had an alignment done about 15K miles ago according to the car fax report. The tires weren't that worn, so I'm assuming that was done along side a tire change as well.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on May 25, 2018, 09:37:25 AM
Look for the date code on the tires.  Four digits representing the week and year they were made.  I replaced mine in pairs, and the date codes are clearly different by about 2 years.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 29, 2018, 07:30:00 AM
I ended up buying that CX-9 last week. I ended up getting the power train warranty and bumper to bumper warranty extended to 130K miles. I'm happy with the vehicle. It got plenty of power, but I do really miss the handling the mini cooper had. It's almost like I have to plan out and calculate a turn rather than just being able to throw the car wherever I need it to go.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on May 29, 2018, 10:41:55 AM
The dealership was really being stubborn on the price of the vehicle I'm looking at. I couldn't get them to budge (I came at them with a good figure early on that got rejected really quick). However, I got them to put on new tires, brakes, and calipers, so that's kind of okay I guess.

I'm going down tonight to look at it on a lift and will be giving them a down payment if everything looks okay under there. I'll be taking delivery tomorrow afternoon.
If you know anybody who works on cars, you should take him along with you. You can pay him in lettuce or something. I know a bit about cars, but I can never see any problems when I'm inspecting them. Somebody who works on them will whip out a flashlight and point out half a dozen problems right off the bat. Barring that, tell the dealer you're driving it to another shop for a PPI. Should run you $150 or so, and buy you a tremendous amount of piece of mind.

This.   My step son is now my go-to car buddy.   It's amazing what an impartial eye will find.   My Taco died (well, is dying) and I drove by a Ford F150 Sport Body in a 16 second drive-by he was like "yeah, looks good, but remember to ask him about x and y"; and that's not even getting out of the car.  I'll have him put it on a lift too, of course, but it's good peace of mind.

"Pay him in lettuce".  You kill me!  :)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on May 31, 2018, 04:07:52 PM
I spent a week driving over 2k miles around florida in a 2017 Mustang:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeC_n_VX0AIEkui.jpg)

It was a base model, but still soooo much fun to drive especially while driving around Homestead Florida (which might as well been Alabama) as no one was around on the long straight flat roads.  Makes me really want to get one now, but my GF is very much against it as she thinks (and kind of knows) I will get in trouble.  Driving my 2010 Civic now makes me sad.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on May 31, 2018, 04:23:14 PM
When we rented ours, I was blown away by how much trunk space and rear seat room it had. We had two adults in the back.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on May 31, 2018, 05:07:58 PM
When we rented ours, I was blown away by how much trunk space and rear seat room it had. We had two adults in the back.

We never tried to put anyone in the back, but the trunk was pretty spacious for all our luggage and bags.  I really enjoyed the cooled seats, especially since I had swamp ass by the end of every day.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 01, 2018, 12:43:54 PM
I just bought about $600 in suspension parts, and I will probably tackle it this weekend.  Front and rear struts, mounts, boots and bumpers, and front sway bar end links which.  I'm actually looking forward to this job, which is surprising considering the control arm replacement i did about 2 years ago when I hated the world afterward.

I also bought some cheapo impact drivers and sockets from harbor freight to try making my day a bit easier.  They seemed way underpowerd compared to their ratings, and I just bought a used ingersoll rand driver on ebay and will return the HF ones.  Also, as with any time I do car repairs, I start going crazy reading about tools and trying to fill out my socket sets, etc.  I have lots of hand-me-down craftsman tools, but reading around makes me not want to augment with the new craftsman stuff.  However, being a bit of a dweeb about it, I also want matching sets.  Oddly enough, last time I bought a few sockets I didn't have, they were actually made in USA.  Maybe individual sockets are procured differently from sets??  Maybe I could get lucky again.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 01, 2018, 01:22:29 PM
I just bought about $600 in suspension parts, and I will probably tackle it this weekend.  Front and rear struts, mounts, boots and bumpers, and front sway bar end links which.  I'm actually looking forward to this job, which is surprising considering the control arm replacement i did about 2 years ago when I hated the world afterward.

I also bought some cheapo impact drivers and sockets from harbor freight to try making my day a bit easier.  They seemed way underpowerd compared to their ratings, and I just bought a used ingersoll rand driver on ebay and will return the HF ones.  Also, as with any time I do car repairs, I start going crazy reading about tools and trying to fill out my socket sets, etc.  I have lots of hand-me-down craftsman tools, but reading around makes me not want to augment with the new craftsman stuff.  However, being a bit of a dweeb about it, I also want matching sets.  Oddly enough, last time I bought a few sockets I didn't have, they were actually made in USA.  Maybe individual sockets are procured differently from sets??  Maybe I could get lucky again.
Suspension work is one thing I just won't do with my cars. None of it makes any damn sense to me.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 01, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
I just bought about $600 in suspension parts, and I will probably tackle it this weekend.  Front and rear struts, mounts, boots and bumpers, and front sway bar end links which.  I'm actually looking forward to this job, which is surprising considering the control arm replacement i did about 2 years ago when I hated the world afterward.

I also bought some cheapo impact drivers and sockets from harbor freight to try making my day a bit easier.  They seemed way underpowerd compared to their ratings, and I just bought a used ingersoll rand driver on ebay and will return the HF ones.  Also, as with any time I do car repairs, I start going crazy reading about tools and trying to fill out my socket sets, etc.  I have lots of hand-me-down craftsman tools, but reading around makes me not want to augment with the new craftsman stuff.  However, being a bit of a dweeb about it, I also want matching sets.  Oddly enough, last time I bought a few sockets I didn't have, they were actually made in USA.  Maybe individual sockets are procured differently from sets??  Maybe I could get lucky again.
Suspension work is one thing I just won't do with my cars. None of it makes any damn sense to me.
peripheral stuff like that is the only thing i feel comfortable working on.  I am very hesitant to do anything engine or transmission related, mostly because I've never done that type of work before (i.e. timing belt.  I don't trust myself not to fuck something up).

Also, I know you are a BMW guy.  I know some models (the M models?) use milti link suspension instead of McPherson.  Is this the case with yours?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 01, 2018, 05:20:28 PM
I just bought about $600 in suspension parts, and I will probably tackle it this weekend.  Front and rear struts, mounts, boots and bumpers, and front sway bar end links which.  I'm actually looking forward to this job, which is surprising considering the control arm replacement i did about 2 years ago when I hated the world afterward.

I also bought some cheapo impact drivers and sockets from harbor freight to try making my day a bit easier.  They seemed way underpowerd compared to their ratings, and I just bought a used ingersoll rand driver on ebay and will return the HF ones.  Also, as with any time I do car repairs, I start going crazy reading about tools and trying to fill out my socket sets, etc.  I have lots of hand-me-down craftsman tools, but reading around makes me not want to augment with the new craftsman stuff.  However, being a bit of a dweeb about it, I also want matching sets.  Oddly enough, last time I bought a few sockets I didn't have, they were actually made in USA.  Maybe individual sockets are procured differently from sets??  Maybe I could get lucky again.
Suspension work is one thing I just won't do with my cars. None of it makes any damn sense to me.
peripheral stuff like that is the only thing i feel comfortable working on.  I am very hesitant to do anything engine or transmission related, mostly because I've never done that type of work before (i.e. timing belt.  I don't trust myself not to fuck something up).

Also, I know you are a BMW guy.  I know some models (the M models?) use milti link suspension instead of McPherson.  Is this the case with yours?
Pretty sure mine's McPherson. With the proper tools I could probably take those on. It's figuring out what needs to be replaced and what its role in the grand scheme of things is that gets me. Moreover, most of the bushings, rods, and ends of my car can be replaced in an hour or so. I'd just as soon pay somebody $90 so I don't have to do it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 03, 2018, 11:24:43 AM
I spent a week driving over 2k miles around florida in a 2017 Mustang:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeC_n_VX0AIEkui.jpg)

It was a base model, but still soooo much fun to drive especially while driving around Homestead Florida (which might as well been Alabama) as no one was around on the long straight flat roads.  Makes me really want to get one now, but my GF is very much against it as she thinks (and kind of knows) I will get in trouble.  Driving my 2010 Civic now makes me sad.

This is why Iím getting mustang. They are so fun. Iím going for the v8 gt premium with all the goodies and I canít wait!!!

I didnít know you were in homestead. There is a good winery down there as well as an amazing fruit stand.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on June 04, 2018, 11:40:43 AM
I flew past a winery so that might have been it
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 06, 2018, 01:50:37 PM
I'm kind of not sure what to do today. I put my Mini on Craigslist last night and said what the problem with it was. I put a price on it of $1000 and said the buyer was responsible for transporting it. Since posting it at 10:15 last night, I've had 14 people ask me if they could come look at the car.

Truth be told, I really don't want to be bothered. I figured it'd take weeks for me to find the one interested buyer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 06, 2018, 02:03:57 PM
I'm kind of not sure what to do today. I put my Mini on Craigslist last night and said what the problem with it was. I put a price on it of $1000 and said the buyer was responsible for transporting it. Since posting it at 10:15 last night, I've had 14 people ask me if they could come look at the car.

Truth be told, I really don't want to be bothered. I figured it'd take weeks for me to find the one interested buyer.
Most likely people are wanting to part it out, and depending on the mileage a grand might be a steal. If you just want rid of it give it to the first guy with ten bills. If you want money for it, put it on eBay for a week and let those 14 people fight it out.

It's also possible that they thing the problem has been misdiagnosed, which is a possibility. Doesn't really matter, though.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 06, 2018, 02:12:49 PM
I'm kind of not sure what to do today. I put my Mini on Craigslist last night and said what the problem with it was. I put a price on it of $1000 and said the buyer was responsible for transporting it. Since posting it at 10:15 last night, I've had 14 people ask me if they could come look at the car.

Truth be told, I really don't want to be bothered. I figured it'd take weeks for me to find the one interested buyer.
Most likely people are wanting to part it out, and depending on the mileage a grand might be a steal. If you just want rid of it give it to the first guy with ten bills. If you want money for it, put it on eBay for a week and let those 14 people fight it out.

It's also possible that they thing the problem has been misdiagnosed, which is a possibility. Doesn't really matter, though.

I think either one is reasonably likely.  I know a guy that buys Toyota Tacos for cash, just because.  He's got about seven or eight of them in his yard in varying degrees of disassembly, and every couple weeks he puts a running, operating truck up for about three to five times what he paid for the parts trucks.   My stepson is in the latter group.  "I can fix THAT!", though not with Mini's; he's a VW/BMW guy.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 07, 2018, 06:10:16 AM
21 people have now reached out asking to come see it.

I've never had to fill out a bill of sale for a car before. Who is able to declare a car totaled? I was quoted $11K to fix the Mini, and the car was only worth $5Kish. In my mind that's a total loss. Can I say the car is for salvage on the bill of sale?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 07, 2018, 07:06:55 AM
That much interest tells me you under priced it, but how could you know that ahead of time?  Maybe tell them each (or maybe a few that seem most serious) that you have a lot of interest and to give their best offer.  Go back around with the best offer and see if anyone cares to beat it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2018, 07:50:51 AM
21 people have now reached out asking to come see it.

I've never had to fill out a bill of sale for a car before. Who is able to declare a car totaled? I was quoted $11K to fix the Mini, and the car was only worth $5Kish. In my mind that's a total loss. Can I say the car is for salvage on the bill of sale?

What are you thinking?   I don't know that it makes a difference either way, and regardless of what you put on the bill of sale, the buyer is going to pay taxes on the book value, not the sale value.     I don't see what benefit you have writing "salvage" on the bill of sale.  If you give the buyer a receipt, certainly write "AS IS - No warranty or returns" on it, but other than that...  were you clear in the Craigslist ad that it did not run for you?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 07, 2018, 07:58:50 AM
21 people have now reached out asking to come see it.

I've never had to fill out a bill of sale for a car before. Who is able to declare a car totaled? I was quoted $11K to fix the Mini, and the car was only worth $5Kish. In my mind that's a total loss. Can I say the car is for salvage on the bill of sale?

What are you thinking?   I don't know that it makes a difference either way, and regardless of what you put on the bill of sale, the buyer is going to pay taxes on the book value, not the sale value.     I don't see what benefit you have writing "salvage" on the bill of sale.  If you give the buyer a receipt, certainly write "AS IS - No warranty or returns" on it, but other than that...  were you clear in the Craigslist ad that it did not run for you?


This is my listing.
https://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/d/mini-cooper-needs-motor-work/6609204021.html

As far as what to put on the BOS, I new to the process and am rather clueless when it comes to what kind of liability I might have given what I put down.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 07, 2018, 07:59:45 AM
That much interest tells me you under priced it, but how could you know that ahead of time?  Maybe tell them each (or maybe a few that seem most serious) that you have a lot of interest and to give their best offer.  Go back around with the best offer and see if anyone cares to beat it.

I've sent a few people screenshots of my flooded inbox and asked if they're willing to go higher than $1000. I think a lot of the responses are bots that just scour craiglist for any car below a certain price.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 07, 2018, 09:03:49 AM
Hello

I am interest in you " Mini Cooper - Needs motor work - $1000 ". Please send address so I can arrange for courier to pick up the  "Mini Cooper - Needs motor work - $1000" and bring you cashier check.

Thank you,

*Generic name*
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 07, 2018, 09:05:20 AM
That's actually not too far off  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2018, 09:09:16 AM
You have a fair number of junkyards/used parts lots near you, Chino.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if that was the case, especially with your car, not being hit or anything.   Maybe not to you, but in terms of a yard, that car is a valuable item.

You might want to call someone like Tom's over in Waterbury and ask what they'd pay for your car, for shits and giggles. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 07, 2018, 09:17:20 AM
I called a number of junkyards. The most I was offered was $750. It's worth plenty in parts if you're willing to sell it over time.

I needed a new driver door and a new quarter panel (scraped a column in my parking garage) and it was $700 for the two out of a junkyard.

On the mini I'm dumping, you could sell;
- Both doors
- Rear boot lid
- Heated seats
- Airbags
- Roof Rack
- Radio
- Hood
- Bumpers
- Side mirrors
- Upgraded climate control system
- Wheels
- Both Headlights
- Both Tail lights

You could sell the doors for $1000 alone. I just don't have anywhere to keep it, nor do I want to be bothered with parting it out.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 07, 2018, 09:45:00 AM
If I were chino I wouldíve asked a lot more. While there a lot of bots and scammers on Craigslist you could probably ask for more money andnifnanything lower the price if you haggle. Iím not sure with the laws in your state but you just write the BOS for the amount you sold it, chances are the new buyer will have to pay taxes based on the bluebook value of the car. This is to prevent people from attempting to skirt paying sales tax on a car because the seller wrote them a BOS for $10.

Also make sure you write as is on the BOS. As far as salvaging the title that is not something you can do, your insurance would file that depending on the s age done on the car, once the car has a salavage title it will not be able to be registered until it gets a rebuilt title which usually involves your states dmv inspecting the vehicle for the appropriate repairs.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2018, 10:34:42 AM
I called a number of junkyards. The most I was offered was $750. It's worth plenty in parts if you're willing to sell it over time.

I needed a new driver door and a new quarter panel (scraped a column in my parking garage) and it was $700 for the two out of a junkyard.

On the mini I'm dumping, you could sell;
- Both doors
- Rear boot lid
- Heated seats
- Airbags
- Roof Rack
- Radio
- Hood
- Bumpers
- Side mirrors
- Upgraded climate control system
- Wheels
- Both Headlights
- Both Tail lights

You could sell the doors for $1000 alone. I just don't have anywhere to keep it, nor do I want to be bothered with parting it out.

There's a joke involving a traffic cone in there somewhere.... :)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 07, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
I called a number of junkyards. The most I was offered was $750. It's worth plenty in parts if you're willing to sell it over time.

I needed a new driver door and a new quarter panel (scraped a column in my parking garage) and it was $700 for the two out of a junkyard.

On the mini I'm dumping, you could sell;
- Both doors
- Rear boot lid
- Heated seats
- Airbags
- Roof Rack
- Radio
- Hood
- Bumpers
- Side mirrors
- Upgraded climate control system
- Wheels
- Both Headlights
- Both Tail lights

You could sell the doors for $1000 alone. I just don't have anywhere to keep it, nor do I want to be bothered with parting it out.
Everything save for the engine core is sellable on your car. Each window switch in that car is worth 10-15 bones. I've bought a used turn signal stalk off of eBay. Somewhere out there is a guy whose cup holder is broken that'll shell out $25 for another. There are a whole lot of trim pieces on cars nowadays. The transmission, depending on the mileage, could be the big ticket item. Somewhere out there is a guy whose cup holder is broken that'll shell out $25 for another. And while the engine is most likely toast, there are a ton of parts on that engine that people would be interested in. Manifolds, for example. Shops that reman cylinder heads would probably like that one as a core. It's just a matter of somebody having the time and room to part it out piecemeal.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 07, 2018, 12:52:09 PM
And that's why Chino only got a $750 offer; because the average dude is NOT going to put in that effort, stock those parts, advertise those parts and deal with the "customer" side of things.   The junkyard is, and they're giving you a price sight unseen, as-is. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 08, 2018, 09:24:07 AM
I started the suspension job this morning.  Rear shocks were a breeze, and my $27 ebay impact driver has already demonstrated its value.  The large bolt holding the bottom of the shock to the suspension arm would have taken me all damn morning with hand tools.  Once i broke the torque, it still needed power to back it all the way out.  my 3 gallon compressor barely keeps up and has to recharge before i get the 5 lugs off the wheels, but its totally adequate for what im doing.  On to the front end.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 08, 2018, 02:03:26 PM
What kind of suspension setup do you have on the front?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 09, 2018, 02:07:53 PM
MacPherson.

This car owned my ass yesterday.

I knew there was a leaky CV boot on the left side and I figured I would seal it up while i was under there.  However, all the maneuvering of the steering knuckle to remove the strut pulled on the boot enough to open the crack further, which caused a crap load of grease to leak out*.  Further, the nut holding the sway bar end link to the sway bar would not budge.  It's a crimped nut which grips the stud pretty hard, and it faces inboard so i couldnt give it a blast with the impact driver, which i was able to do with the upper nut.

Getting the strut out required a tool like this:

(https://raceland.com/media/blog/strut_spreader/strut_spreader.jpg)

but I made this from an 8mm hex key:

(https://i.imgur.com/HCUSzLA.png)
(Only this picture is mine.)

so I could do this:

(http://www.billswebspace.com/North%20American%20Motoring%20-%20View%20Single%20Post%20-%20Bilstein%20SP%20Front%20Strut%20Install%20from%20Hell_files/DSCN0678.JPG)

Opening that clamp, plus removing the 3 bolts holding the upper mount to the frame allowed me to remove the whole strut assembly.  I disassembled the strut to get the spring off and onto the new strut and bearing/mount assembly.  This went without a hitch, surprisingly, since I had my impact driver to tighten the threaded spring compressor tool i rented:

(https://procarreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/Best-Strut-Spring-Compressor-For-Cars-750x408.jpg)

With a ratchet, it would have taken me at least a half hour and killed my arms.  I put the new assembly in, but not without murdering the CV boot and draining more grease out.  Each flex of the boot ingested air, and the reverse motion squeezed out more grease*.  Eventually the strut was in place.  Of the 3 screws on top, i cross threaded one  :loser: and snapped the head off another when my torque wrench either didn't click, or i didn't notice  :facepalm: :loser: :facepalm:.

It was at this point I decided I should stop before i dug myself deeper.  I called the volvo mechanic I visited last month and told him about the CV joint and asked if it was safe to drive so I could drop it off at his shop.  He said it should be ok as long as the joint bearings are in place properly.  I will have him check out and repair the CV joint monday, install the right strut and end links.

After that, I called a bunch of auto supply shops, hardware stores and a volvo dealer to try locating the top mount bolts that I ruined.  One hardware store had the correct size and strength (M8X1.25 10.9), but wrong length.  The volvo dealer said the nearest one was in Westport, CT, which is about an hour drive from me.  I couldnt believe I was about to drive an hour for 2 bolts, but that's what i planned to do.  Later that night, i just figured I could buy the hardware store bolt until i ordered the right one.  I would have to visit CT another time.  Since there are plenty of threads past the nut on the strut mount, and the new bolt is the required strength, I could just leave them on there.  However they are black oxide and I'm not sure of their rust resistance.

As for the snapped one (the rest of the bolt was still in the mount), since the mount had a tapped through hole, the tip of the bolt stuck through under the wheel well.  I got a tiny needle nose in there somehow (I thought i would have to take the whole strut assembly out) and about 5 degrees at a time, was able to thread the remainder of the bolt out.  I installed the 2 new bolts (the last 2 in the store) and was done with it.  Part of me still wants to replace the right strut myself, but I don't want to dig another hole and I will just let a pro do it.  At least I can limp it there.

*CV joint grease is pretty thick stuff.  When I used words like "dripping" and "spilling", the mechanic seemed puzzled.  I searched a bit about these CV joints, and happened to come across a rebuild where someone mentioned water mixing with the grease, making it the consistency of thick motor oil.  The boot must have ingested a bunch of water which thinned it out to the point where it could drip.  I hope I don't have to replace the whole thing.  They are almost $600 each for OEM, however I see some random brand on rock auto for like $45.  Makes no sense.


TL;DR- Replaced left front strut, but cross threaded and snapped 2 bolts and had to get new ones.  Tore open inner CV boot and lost lots of grease.  Decided to cut my losses and have a pro finish right strut and fix CV joint.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 09, 2018, 02:15:55 PM
Your story reminds me of my experience doing the front struts on my bmw. I was wise enough to just buy new strut assembly (McPherson struts as well) because I know if I tried to do it piecemeal I'd lose my sanity.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 09, 2018, 02:22:35 PM
I couldn't find pre built kits for my car, unfortunately.  I expected that to be the hard part, but it turned out to be no problem anyway.  All these other unpredictable problems popped up.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 11, 2018, 07:00:33 AM
Update:  Spent Saturday feeling dejected, and mulled over the situation repeatedly.  I decided to finish the job myself, and after little more than an hour Sunday I replaced the right front strut with no issues at all.  The CV boot issue remains, so I sealed the crack with a bunch of bathroom caulk and duct tape, and dropped the car off at a Volvo shop Sunday night.  I feel much better completing what i planned on.  Now I'm waiting for a call this morning from the mechanic.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 11, 2018, 07:03:15 PM
Keep us posted jasc.

New car news for me, unless something comes up this week I"m going to submit my order for my new car this Saturday. This will be the first new car I've ever bought I'm and super fucking excited.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on June 12, 2018, 08:39:44 AM
Keep us posted jasc.

New car news for me, unless something comes up this week I"m going to submit my order for my new car this Saturday. This will be the first new car I've ever bought I'm and super fucking excited.

Mustang?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2018, 08:48:46 AM
Yup. Iím going to go to a few other delears and take a few more cars for a spin but Iím pretty set on the mustang. Iím doing the gt premium with performance package one and all options.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 12, 2018, 08:55:55 AM
Yup. Iím going to go to a few other delears and take a few more cars for a spin but Iím pretty set on the mustang. Iím doing the gt premium with performance package one and all options.


Fuck that.

Go Shelby.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2018, 08:59:14 AM
My buddies are trying to convince to do the roush package but itís another $6k and I wouldíve have my car for even longer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 12, 2018, 09:15:11 AM
I honestly don't get the point of the Roush besides just being able to say you have it. The Mustang isn't designed for anywhere near that power. Trying to use the engine to its full potential is handicapped by basically everything else in the car. It actually becomes a chore to drive.

The mustangs are really fun cars. But if you're really looking to put that kind of power down, I think you'll be disappointed.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 12, 2018, 09:39:02 AM
Well thatís what I was thinking. There was a brief moment I was considering leasing a hellcat challenger as itís monthly price is the same as my finance cost of the mustang. I just donít like the looks as much and 700hp is a bit overkill. The gt is even overkill but I love he sound of the v8
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 12, 2018, 09:39:24 AM
Update:  Spent Saturday feeling dejected, and mulled over the situation repeatedly.  I decided to finish the job myself, and after little more than an hour Sunday I replaced the right front strut with no issues at all.  The CV boot issue remains, so I sealed the crack with a bunch of bathroom caulk and duct tape, and dropped the car off at a Volvo shop Sunday night.  I feel much better completing what i planned on.  Now I'm waiting for a call this morning from the mechanic.

My appreciation and admiration for you knows no bounds at this point.   That's my kind of guy, right there.  Get the job done, hook or by crook. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 12, 2018, 09:44:15 AM
Well thatís what I was thinking. There was a brief moment I was considering leasing a hellcat challenger as itís monthly price is the same as my finance cost of the mustang. I just donít like the looks as much and 700hp is a bit overkill. The gt is even overkill but I love he sound of the v8

My father-in-law and brother-in-law have Challengers (well, BIL has a Charger) and my stepson is trying to egg one of them on to get a Hellcat.  That's an assload of car right there.   It is overkill, but like my grandma always said, if it's worth doing, it's worth over-doing.

I remember I crashed my 280Z into a tree back in '89 (I yearn for that car today) and had to buy something, and it was down to a '82 320i (First gen E21) or an '85 Mustang with the V8.   On a straight line that Mustang was hot, but if I had to make ANY turns, it was as loose as... you can use your own analogy there.   I might have been gunshy after my crash, but I thought the Mustang would be my last car ever if I bought it so I went with the BMW.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 13, 2018, 07:54:26 AM
Update:  Spent Saturday feeling dejected, and mulled over the situation repeatedly.  I decided to finish the job myself, and after little more than an hour Sunday I replaced the right front strut with no issues at all.  The CV boot issue remains, so I sealed the crack with a bunch of bathroom caulk and duct tape, and dropped the car off at a Volvo shop Sunday night.  I feel much better completing what i planned on.  Now I'm waiting for a call this morning from the mechanic.

My appreciation and admiration for you knows no bounds at this point.   That's my kind of guy, right there.  Get the job done, hook or by crook. 
Thats really encouraging to hear, since I was questioning my self worth as a human being by the end of the first day, lol.

Maybe I mentioned it in the first post on this subject, but I gave the mechanic a heads-up friday afternoon, so he was actually prepared to work on it Monday morning.  I gave him a list of 4 items:

1) CV boots (I noticed cracking on the right axle boot too), and likely a rebuild.

2) Sway bar end links (I just could not get the nuts to budge, even with the old two-wrench cheater bar.  Its funny watching youtube videos of people taking them off with an 8 inch box wrench and 4 inch allen key.)
(http://volvohowto.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/volvo_how_to_tutorials_links4.jpg)

3) Wheel alignment

4) Re-seal body seam on drivers side floor.  This is because I have had my carpeting removed for almost 2 months due to a leaky sun roof drain, and my feet have rubbed some of the sealant off.

He was able to complete items 1 2 and 3 on Monday, and told me to just use some RTV silicone on the floor seam, which I did yesterday during lunch at work (fortunately we have a well stocked general shop here).  Both axles were reconditioned and greased with new boots, end links replaced, and alignment completed.  There is really only a toe adjustment for front and rear, however there is enough clearance in the upper strut mount holes to allow some camber adjustment.  The mechanic uses an alignment shop down the block from him, and he spoke very highly of them.  They were able to get camber, caster and toe within spec.  All for $565.  Since an alignment anywhere is about $100, I figure $465 isn't bad for "new" axles.  Buying new non-Volvo axles would have cost about $700 (new Volvo axles are like $600 each..), and that's installing them myself.

All in, this weekend's repair adventures cost just shy of $1200.  And I still have to do the timing belt... :mehlin
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 13, 2018, 11:45:19 AM
Bleghh. Whatís the timing belt service like on the Volvo. I remember doing the belt in my golf years ago and it was was a huge pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 13, 2018, 02:49:23 PM
I've read about it ad nauseum, and I know exactly what to do.  However, if I fuck something up like i did with the suspension, it wont be as easy to recover from.  I would end up having to have it towed, or something.

The tensioner pulley also looks finicky.  There is an eccentric bolt with some indicators that need to align properly before tightening.  I think this might also be temperature dependent*.  I Figure I could mark the current belt with corresponding teeth on the cam and crank pulleys then transfer those marks to the new belts, but there are prob a dozen ways that could go wrong that i can't even think of.

*Edit:
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Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 13, 2018, 05:50:50 PM
I marked the belt when I did the change, I used red nail polish and it worked well. I don't envy you Jasc, it was a huge pain
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 14, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
So work car (04 Prius) took a shit on me a few weeks ago and has been out of commission. Someone from my main office was supposed to pick it up and bring me another car (car runs and drives). He came up and left without the car saying it wouldn't start (Which I call BS on as it started right up the next day).

Finally Tuesday, big boss man was up for meetings, and decided to have me take the car in. I wanted to take it to the Toyota Dealer (as it's an issue with the hybrid system... and I know you don't want people fucking with it unless they know what they're doing).

Nope. An employee suggests an independent shop he goes to. Boss says take it there. ASAP.

ANNNNNNND battery was dead. So yesterday morning, we jumped it, and then had it towed to the next town over to this shop. We had already given them details of the problem over the phone, so a guy (who I just learned is the new owner) took the key and my info, and said he'd call me.

That was 9AM yesterday. Finally at noon today, I called them as I never got a call back. The woman in the office told me that they checked the issue out first thing in the morning (they open at 7:30 AM) and that she could call me back in 10 minutes with a quote. I asked if she could email me the details and the quote, so I can forward it out to my boss word for word. She said sure and  took and verified my email address as well as phone number (my personal number, not the office number, so I know I can deal with this as soon as possible).

It's now 1:30 and no call, no email.


Am I being impatient or is my frustration valid? Literally all they have to do is run the code and tell me what it says.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 14, 2018, 05:15:18 PM
Little from column A, little from column B. But mostly A. Everything you're describing is pretty normal. If the tech had already diagnosed it and the gal was supposed to email it right away I'd certainly follow up, though. More likely he hadn't pulled the codes and she was bullshitting you. Or, she might have left for the day. That happened to me a couple of months ago.

Two things I'll throw out. One, running the codes doesn't tell you "replace this part and it'll be fine." It tells you what's happening and then you have to figure out why. Some are certainly more informative than others, but they're very seldom conclusive. Think of it as going to the doctor because you feel like death. He takes some blood and some wiz and has it tested. "Oh, looks like your red blood cell count is way too low." OK, what does that mean? "Oh, any number of things, really." And how do we fix it? "Well, that depends on what's causing it, of course." You now know very generally what's wrong, but why and what to do about it still are still question marks.

The second thing is that you might not have had any better experience dealing with the Toyota dealer. Their communication is often times really crappy, and it  takes some time to get to all of the cars they lined up. Then you have to sort out what the actual problem is and all of the other problems that they think they see.

Car repairs always suck.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 15, 2018, 08:32:40 AM
I wanted to take it to the Toyota Dealer (as it's an issue with the hybrid system... and I know you don't want people fucking with it unless they know what they're doing).

This is whats keeping me from getting a hybrid.  We bought a new car about a year and a half ago and I briefly considered a hybrid then, but decided against it.  A few years ago, my reason was that the technology wasn't mature enough, but I can't use that excuse anymore..  However, that is still partially true when it comes to servicing.  Industry is very slow to change, and auto repair shops other than dealers won't likely have hybrid familiarity for probably a decade or more.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 15, 2018, 08:51:45 AM
I wanted to take it to the Toyota Dealer (as it's an issue with the hybrid system... and I know you don't want people fucking with it unless they know what they're doing).

This is whats keeping me from getting a hybrid.  We bought a new car about a year and a half ago and I briefly considered a hybrid then, but decided against it.  A few years ago, my reason was that the technology wasn't mature enough, but I can't use that excuse anymore..  However, that is still partially true when it comes to servicing.  Industry is very slow to change, and auto repair shops other than dealers won't likely have hybrid familiarity for probably a decade or more.

I have  it on good account that even the dealers that sell those vehicles don't yet have a good understanding of those machines.   Yeah, we have codes, yeah, cars are more complicated than they ever were, but even so, there is 75 years of experience in terms of what el Barto was saying about "finding the cause".   You can tell by sounds, how it runs, what it smells like, etc. etc. and get to an answer.   The four-stroke engine isn't rocket science.    But with some of these hybrids, you are now in uncharted territory, and the guys with 40 years experience are just as in the dark as the new kid fresh out of tech school.    I know in talking to my son, he hates them because to him it's "not working on a car", it's like working on a refrigerator.  Just another appliance. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 15, 2018, 09:00:33 AM
I have  it on good account that even the dealers that sell those vehicles don't yet have a good understanding of those machines.

Yeah, I don't doubt that at all.  Maybe they at least have better access to the mothership where the folks who do understand it reside.  Maybe not.  Perhaps I still have some false impression of dealers that, while they are usually 50-100% more expensive, they are better equipped to deal with make-specific issues.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 15, 2018, 09:11:45 AM
I have  it on good account that even the dealers that sell those vehicles don't yet have a good understanding of those machines.

Yeah, I don't doubt that at all.  Maybe they at least have better access to the mothership where the folks who do understand it reside.  Maybe not.  Perhaps I still have some false impression of dealers that, while they are usually 50-100% more expensive, they are better equipped to deal with make-specific issues.

Oh, I absolutely agree with you on that last point, generally, but I think hybrids specifically are a different breed.   It's new to EVERYBODY to some degree.   My beef with dealers isn't their knowledge, but their motivations.   My son's bosses aren't former mechanics, but business-men.  Your local shop?  The ultimate boss is likely a mechanic first and a reluctant business man second.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 15, 2018, 09:30:51 AM
A close friend's father managed the service department of a Nissan dealer at a time I was buying an Altima.  Even being a friend, and even being in service rather than sales, he still took their side to some extent when I was trying to negotiate my price.  That's when I realized that service departments are just another arm of sales for a dealer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 15, 2018, 09:40:53 AM
A close friend's father managed the service department of a Nissan dealer at a time I was buying an Altima.  Even being a friend, and even being in service rather than sales, he still took their side to some extent when I was trying to negotiate my price.  That's when I realized that service departments are just another arm of sales for a dealer.
Yup. That's not entirely a bad thing, though. My mom took her car to a Nissan dealer 45 miles away and their diagnosis was likely to run up to about $3k. A bent crossbeam had pushed the radiator back damaging the radiator, condenser, and a few other things. Her service salesman (advisor is bullshit) actually worked out a very comprehensive quote using aftermarket parts and cut their labor rate down to that of an independent ($85/hr). She was out about $1700 when it was all said and done, and that included some other work as well. He told her that maintenance, while not exactly a loss-leader, wasn't there to make tons of money. They were there to build loyalty. If they can get rich at the same time that's great, but not at the expense of a potential longterm customer.

Having said that, I don't think there's anyway I talk a dealer into using aftermarket parts. A lot of this was very likely the little old lady factor. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 18, 2018, 08:07:50 AM
Last week I noticed one of my engine mounts was shot.  Its consistent with a particular rattle sound i hear coming from that side of the engine bay during idle.  I got an OEM part on amazon for $98 and will prob change it out this coming weekend.  In the process, since it is right near the timing belt and actually needs to be removed to replace it, I will do  bit of a dry run and get a good look at tool clearances, etc.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 18, 2018, 12:29:36 PM
Update on my work Prius:

Finally got a response from the shop later that day. They said hybrid battery (as well as the aux battery) needed to be replaced.

Sent my boss the quote... he had a mini heart attack.... 10 minutes later he's calling me telling me that his mechanic will do it for $1k less. So Friday another employee and I picked up the car from the shop, paid the $50 diagnostic fee, and then drove it the 70 miles to this other shop with the check engine light and the massive hybrid system warning light flashing, dropped it off, caught a ride to our main office, and drove back with what looks like an identical Prius (Just a year newer and 10k miles less).

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 18, 2018, 03:28:34 PM
Yikes. So what's the bill for hybrid battery replacement?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 19, 2018, 09:59:28 AM
Yikes. So what's the bill for hybrid battery replacement?

So the first shop is charging $2800 total for the hybrid battery and aux battery including labor.

My boss's shop will do it for like $1700.

First shop would be using a refurbed battery. Boss's shop will put in a certified "used" battery.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nathan Explosion on June 21, 2018, 09:38:04 PM
This is my current project vehicle, a 1995 Chevy G20 Gladiator with a 350 V8. My late Grandpa bought it new in April, 1996, he passed away in June, 1999, 2 months latter with 31k miles on the clock my Grandma traded it in for a car.

17 years and two different owners latter, in October 2016, with the help of it's vin number which I had found on her dealership paperwork and my states free internal vin check service, I found out it had recently been traded into a used car business which was named in the vin report, (up until then all the report would say was "Private Owner"), and I ended up buying it back from them with 124k miles on the clock. It's got tons of sentimental value and I'm glad to have it back.

It's a little strange yet cool listening on it's radio to Dream Theater or any other music I got into after 1999, because I don't mentally associate the Chevy with those bands or songs, because of my set in stone memories of it as a kid in the late 90s.

I've been doing alot of work fixing it up, just finished replacing the exhaust with new Walker piping and a Flowmaster Super 44, now it's on to replacing the rear drum brakes.

Me, 5, the day Grandpa surprised me with it after school.:
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January 2017:
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Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 22, 2018, 05:21:16 AM
Damn that thing looks like it's in good shape still.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 22, 2018, 06:28:42 AM
That's so cool. Any pics of the interior/back area?
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Post by: Nick on June 22, 2018, 06:52:56 AM
That's so cool. Any pics of the interior/back area?

Sorry, that view is reserved exclusively for the ladies.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 22, 2018, 08:35:27 AM
That's a bad-ass van, and a bad-ass story.  Very cool.

I've been on that kick a little myself.   I need a second car (kids!) and started looking for my favorite car growing up - the Datsun Z-car (260, 280, not the 300 or later) - and it's ridiculous.  First, it seems like it must have been a law requiring owners to shoe-horn small block Detroit engines into those cars.  No thanks.  The original Datsun six cylinder engines were more than adequate, and moved that car pretty good.  It's a heavy car to start with, and ramming that engine in there can't be that big a performance boom.  I think it's testosterone, frankly.  Then I looked for my first car ever, a huge Buick Centurian convertible, with a 455 V8.  Because of the convertible, it too was a heavy car, with the reinforced A-frame.   It was 0-60 in about 7.5 - 8 days, but it would also cruise for 1000 miles at 75 without breaking a sweat.   Hard to find in any kind of decent shape, and forget about trying to get a top in mint condition without tapping the college fund. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: JayOctavarium on June 22, 2018, 09:44:03 AM
Gah

One of the first things I'd do if I became wealthy overnight would be to find myself a '80 280 and restore it. Black with red interior.

My first car memories are cruising around in that with my dad when I was little. I used to think it looked like a space ship, and would pretend to be my dad's copilot on a ship fighting the Borg.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nathan Explosion on June 22, 2018, 09:51:29 AM
Damn that thing looks like it's in good shape still.
I need to fix some rust, mainly under the bay windows and a few other spots,  but it's held up better than others I've seen.

That's a bad-ass van, and a bad-ass story.  Very cool.

Thanks! There's a new show on Velocity you might like called JDM legends, they worked on an older 240Z. I agree I think the original engine or at least an engine from the same manufacturer is best. Good luck on your search!

That's so cool. Any pics of the interior/back area?

It has the L05 throttle body injected 350

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Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 22, 2018, 10:39:30 AM
It's still so clean!   

If you don't want to share, that's cool, but do you mind telling us what you bought it back for? Did you tell the dealership your story?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 22, 2018, 10:56:24 AM
Cool story and cool van.

@Stadler. If memory serves you and I had the exact same car. Silver 2x2 non-turbo with the T-tops. It wouldn't surprise me if the motor jobs were because the originals went up in smoke. That was not an engine that was going to get 300k and they're some old-ass cars. I know mine eventually seized up, and there were some chronic problems with the things. How many injectors did you have to replace?  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Nathan Explosion on June 22, 2018, 02:34:04 PM
It's still so clean!   

If you don't want to share, that's cool, but do you mind telling us what you bought it back for? Did you tell the dealership your story?
It was $24,500 when new in 96, I got it for $1,350 out the door. Yeah I did, although it was a buy here pay here type place, it had that typical used car lot feel.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on June 22, 2018, 08:49:30 PM
Goddamn that's a good deal for something that looks as clean as it does.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on June 27, 2018, 07:18:44 AM
Elon Musk has said on Twitter that the Tesla pickup truck will have a 300,000 pound towing capacity... A Dodge Ram 3500 has a 31,000 pound capacity. I thought you couldn't exceed 80,000 pounds on roads?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 27, 2018, 08:30:37 AM
Elon Musk has said on Twitter that the Tesla pickup truck will have a 300,000 pound towing capacity... A Dodge Ram 3500 has a 31,000 pound capacity. I thought you couldn't exceed 80,000 pounds on roads?
You can't drive over 80 anywhere in America, but cars can routine exceed 130. He's just touting what his vehicles can actually do. Also, it's possible that farmers might be interested in the greater towing capacity.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: jasc15 on June 27, 2018, 02:12:34 PM
The Model S accelerates to 100kph in 2.3 seconds in Ludicrous mode.  Thats 1.23 g's, or a thrust of 5716 lb (1.23g x 4647 lb).

A 300,000 lb trailer with rolling resistance of 0.02 (https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/rolling-friction-resistance-d_1303.html), the required thrust is 6000 lb.

Sounds about right.

In theory, then, any car with a similar weight and acceleration performance could tow a 300,000 lb trailer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 28, 2018, 03:46:15 PM
Cool story and cool van.

@Stadler. If memory serves you and I had the exact same car. Silver 2x2 non-turbo with the T-tops. It wouldn't surprise me if the motor jobs were because the originals went up in smoke. That was not an engine that was going to get 300k and they're some old-ass cars. I know mine eventually seized up, and there were some chronic problems with the things. How many injectors did you have to replace?  :lol

Good call with the injectors; I went through them like popcorn. I also went through transmissions; I was on my third when I crashed.  I forget how many miles I had on it...   The only thing I was missing was the t-tops.  I had the regular hard top roof (but the dude before me put in a sunroof). 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on June 28, 2018, 06:30:42 PM
Cool story and cool van.

@Stadler. If memory serves you and I had the exact same car. Silver 2x2 non-turbo with the T-tops. It wouldn't surprise me if the motor jobs were because the originals went up in smoke. That was not an engine that was going to get 300k and they're some old-ass cars. I know mine eventually seized up, and there were some chronic problems with the things. How many injectors did you have to replace?  :lol

Good call with the injectors; I went through them like popcorn. I also went through transmissions; I was on my third when I crashed.  I forget how many miles I had on it...   The only thing I was missing was the t-tops.  I had the regular hard top roof (but the dude before me put in a sunroof).
T-tops were one of the dumbest ideas ever. You weren't missing much. I recall that my tranny was starting to go bad, but it didn't crap out before the rest of the car. Was your crash stupidity related? It sure seemed to bring out the worst in me. I never crashed mine but that kick-ass front end was mostly responsible for that. Probably saved my life once.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on June 29, 2018, 01:18:10 PM
Cool story and cool van.

@Stadler. If memory serves you and I had the exact same car. Silver 2x2 non-turbo with the T-tops. It wouldn't surprise me if the motor jobs were because the originals went up in smoke. That was not an engine that was going to get 300k and they're some old-ass cars. I know mine eventually seized up, and there were some chronic problems with the things. How many injectors did you have to replace?  :lol

Good call with the injectors; I went through them like popcorn. I also went through transmissions; I was on my third when I crashed.  I forget how many miles I had on it...   The only thing I was missing was the t-tops.  I had the regular hard top roof (but the dude before me put in a sunroof).
T-tops were one of the dumbest ideas ever. You weren't missing much. I recall that my tranny was starting to go bad, but it didn't crap out before the rest of the car. Was your crash stupidity related? It sure seemed to bring out the worst in me. I never crashed mine but that kick-ass front end was mostly responsible for that. Probably saved my life once.

Yeah, stupidity with a  dash of dumb (bad) luck.   Too much  speed, not enough road.  Lost control, overcorrected, and left the road (oddly, to the left; physics says I should have gone off the road to the right).  At that point I lost steering and braking and momentum just took me into a tree head on.  I walked away (broken nose, two black eyes, cuts on my legs, and bruises to my ego) and the cop wanted to give me a breath test because I told him I was driving.   He was sure that the driver was in the car and couldn't have survived, but he couldn't with all the blood.   I have pictures of the wreck; I'll try to post them.   
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Elite on June 30, 2018, 04:35:01 AM
It's still so clean!   

If you don't want to share, that's cool, but do you mind telling us what you bought it back for? Did you tell the dealership your story?
It was $24,500 when new in 96, I got it for $1,350 out the door. Yeah I did, although it was a buy here pay here type place, it had that typical used car lot feel.



That's a great deal for that van, even without the sentimental value you attached to it. I bet it's nice to have that car back, congrats!
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on July 01, 2018, 06:47:32 PM
I am so stupid, so fucking stupid. Warning semi-long story ahead:

So not sure if anyone remembers but a few months back I ended up changing my water pump and oil filter gasket in my bmw. I had a small oil leak which is why I did the oil filter gasket. Well I finished and my car started leaking even more oil. I pretty much said fuck it, I getting rid of my car soon and I'm tired working on it. Today I'm doing an oil change and I go to reach for oil plug crush washer and realize it's different from the one I found on the garage floor a few months back. It then clicked! I opened my hood and saw one of the wiring harnesses was wearing away underneath the VANOS feed line. Turns out there are two crush washers on the VANOS nut, I only had one. I remember moving my car and seeing it on the floor, I just thought it was from an oil change I did previously and never saw it before.

I finished my oil change and put a clean paper towel under the nut and started my car, sure enough that's where the oil was coming from. Put a new washer on and hopefully no more leaks.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 14, 2018, 03:44:16 PM
Car died today. The engine is shot. Made it 110,000 miles so I'm not crazy surprised, but I wanted to ask:

Anyone ever salvage a car? Its shot so I don't want to mess around with trying to sell it. I just want it to go away. Do I just call a junkyard and sign the title over.

I was also thinking about just donating it to purple heart.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 14, 2018, 04:45:49 PM
You got it, call the junkyard and get it towed and sign over the title.

What car was it?
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on August 14, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Car died today. The engine is shot. Made it 110,000 miles so I'm not crazy surprised, but I wanted to ask:

Anyone ever salvage a car? Its shot so I don't want to mess around with trying to sell it. I just want it to go away. Do I just call a junkyard and sign the title over.

I was also thinking about just donating it to purple heart.
If the tax write-off is greater than what the junkyard will give you then do that. I'd call a few junkyards, though. They won't tell you anything concrete, but you should get a sense of what they're willing to pay. If it still has the original cats it'll make a huge difference in what they offer.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Grappler on August 15, 2018, 06:57:04 AM
Car died today. The engine is shot. Made it 110,000 miles so I'm not crazy surprised, but I wanted to ask:

Anyone ever salvage a car? Its shot so I don't want to mess around with trying to sell it. I just want it to go away. Do I just call a junkyard and sign the title over.

I was also thinking about just donating it to purple heart.

I donated a 2004 Chevy Cavalier to Cars (Kars) for Kids 5 years ago.  The car ran fine, but the side was all smashed in from an accident. They parted it out and I got a letter a few months later confirming a $1,200 tax write off. 
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Post by: Chino on August 15, 2018, 07:02:43 AM
I put my Mini with a blown engine on Craiglist.

I said "Mini cooper. Blown engine. $1000. Buyer is responsible for moving it"

I had 28 people reach out to me in 48 hours. I actually ended up selling it for $1300. First time I ever sold something for more than I listed it for on Craigslist. I wish I had listed it for $2000. I bet I could have gotten $1500+.

Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on August 15, 2018, 08:10:50 AM
Good call, Chino.  I'm trying to do the same thing with my '98 Tacoma with a cracked frame.   

The salvage market here isn't that hot.  I had a 2002 Volvo S40 and best I could get was $200 if I brought it in, $150 if they picked it up.    Depends on the car, of course, but not that much. 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 15, 2018, 08:27:08 AM
Cruising through the local ford dealership sites like I do every other morning to see if any cars with my spec have shown up so I can cancel my order and grab the new car on the lot instead of waiting for my build.

I saw a used 2018 model that is exactly how I ordered my 2019 (except it's silver) with 2k miles. I'm thinking of checking it out Monday when I get back and if they take 36k I'll take it. I'd be saving 13K off my order and the only think I'd lose is taht it's not new, not the color I want and a 2018. It may be worth it for $13k savings.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 15, 2018, 08:28:35 AM
Thanks for all the advice guys.


You got it, call the junkyard and get it towed and sign over the title.

What car was it?

It was a 98 Toyota corolla.  It served me very well. Made it to 110,000 miles.

 From what I was able to put together is the Check oil light was faulty and the engine was leaking oil. At some point, it went almost totally empty and I was driving it like that and it destroyed the engine. So in the future, I am gonna just pull the dipstick every few weeks or so just for peace of mind on the next car.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Chino on August 15, 2018, 08:48:30 AM
Cruising through the local ford dealership sites like I do every other morning to see if any cars with my spec have shown up so I can cancel my order and grab the new car on the lot instead of waiting for my build.

I saw a used 2018 model that is exactly how I ordered my 2019 (except it's silver) with 2k miles. I'm thinking of checking it out Monday when I get back and if they take 36k I'll take it. I'd be saving 13K off my order and the only think I'd lose is taht it's not new, not the color I want and a 2018. It may be worth it for $13k savings.

You might get charged some sort of processing/increased inventory fee for cancelling an order on a car that was already started. When I bought my Mini new, you'd typically have to wait 10-16 weeks for your car to be built/shipped. I took over an abandoned order and only had to wait 3 weeks. I remember the salesman telling me the owners that bailed on the order were charged a fee to do so.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 15, 2018, 08:57:19 AM
So the worst case is I lose my $1000 deposit, but since this dealer is within the delearship network I might try to talk my way out of it. Iím still undecided, I fucking hate silver as a car color.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 15, 2018, 09:51:47 AM
Iím still undecided, I fucking hate silver as a car color.

I feel like "car people" really don't like silver cars  :lol Both cars I've bought have been silver and I always get crap for it from my friends who I consider to be "car people" which I am definitely not.  I just fine silver to be the easiest color for looking clean and not attracting attention on the roads.   I'm not sure the next car I get will be silver again though.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 15, 2018, 09:56:07 AM
Iíve seen some silver cars that look ok but I definitely donít like it. Out of all the mustang colors I think silver looks the worst.

I will agree with you that silver is one of the easiest ways to keep clean.
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Post by: cramx3 on August 15, 2018, 09:57:52 AM
Yea, I wouldnt get a silver mustang. What color did you go with for your build?  I like the black or blue on Mustangs personally.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 15, 2018, 10:05:32 AM
It was tough but I went with black. There is a color that they make for 350rís called Lead Foot Gray:

(https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/lead-foot-gray-looks-smashing-on-2018-shelby-gt350-mustang-117218-7.jpg)


I wish I couldíve gotten that color, no stripes.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on August 15, 2018, 10:07:59 AM
Nice, the black goes well IMO
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Post by: ReaperKK on August 15, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
Yea there were a few other colors I liked. They had a charcoal gray, white, blue. I liked burgundy but when I saw it in person it didnít look good. Itís sort of why Iíll try the silver mustang out, who knows maybe itíll look good in person.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: SystematicThought on August 15, 2018, 10:52:17 PM
The past week, I feel like my truck has been falling apart. In reality, nothing bad has been happening and it's only two things, but I'm so particular and careful with it, that it feels like one thing after another.

1) Driving into work Saturday morning, a giant rock hit my windshield. It was a loud cracking noise, but I didn't see any damage to the windshield. I shrugged it off and considered it another victory and considered myself lucky. I go to work and carry on with my day. I leave work, get in the car and notice on the passenger side, there are three cracks starting at the bottom below the windshield wipers  passenger side and going up to the middle of the windshield. Check for any other damage, only cracked the top layer of glass. Call insurance and repair company, they're coming to my work next Monday to replace the windshield.

2) Get home from work on Monday. Type in my garage code and wait for the door to go up. I look over at my truck and see a giant screw stuck in the middle of the tread on the driver's side tire. It's a 30 mile drive back to work the next day to go to the mechanic across from my store to do the repair. I know I could take it to a tire place and they do it for free, but I trust these guys.

Minor things, but I have a reputation at work for being meticulous with my truck and really do try to take care of everything so to have all of this stuff happen in a span of three days felt like the whole thing was falling apart  :lol
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: El Barto on August 17, 2018, 10:10:44 AM
Iím still undecided, I fucking hate silver as a car color.

I feel like "car people" really don't like silver cars  :lol Both cars I've bought have been silver and I always get crap for it from my friends who I consider to be "car people" which I am definitely not.  I just fine silver to be the easiest color for looking clean and not attracting attention on the roads.   I'm not sure the next car I get will be silver again though.
There are certain cars that should only ever come in silver, though.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/58ebf72edacbf_IMG_06691-940x557.jpg)
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 24, 2018, 06:34:20 AM
Thank god for carfax

Was going to go look at (and was planning to buy) a car today. 2013 honda civic. Low miles and reasonable price, but there was no available carfax on it, which almost every other car I have looked at online has had, so I ran the report myself.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.pinterest.com/previews/ORHCQfMO.png)

Not actual mileage...
Salvage...

No thanks.  That just saved me thousands of dollars and a 45 min trip
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: ReaperKK on August 25, 2018, 06:50:20 AM
So update on my mustang drama. I went and checked the silver on out and I actually loved it. In person it's a great color and the car was flawless. I was going to buy it but it got sold out from me the morning of the day I was going to buy it. Turns out the Sales Manager (who I was working with) had a buyer already, called the buyer and he ran down and bought it, neither me or my sales guy knew about it. I knew it was fishy when I offered the sales manager a deposit to hold the car and he wouldn't take it.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: cramx3 on August 29, 2018, 05:26:39 AM
That's annoying that they wouldn't be upfront with you on that
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Post by: ReaperKK on August 29, 2018, 07:37:44 AM
Talking to my buddy who worked at ford he told me this was common. If somebody was working on a sale and another sales guy has a potential buyer theyíll try to sabotage that sale and push their sale.

My sales guy had no idea his sales manager had anybody interested.
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on August 29, 2018, 07:42:46 AM
Iím still undecided, I fucking hate silver as a car color.

I feel like "car people" really don't like silver cars  :lol Both cars I've bought have been silver and I always get crap for it from my friends who I consider to be "car people" which I am definitely not.  I just fine silver to be the easiest color for looking clean and not attracting attention on the roads.   I'm not sure the next car I get will be silver again though.
There are certain cars that should only ever come in silver, though.

(https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/58ebf72edacbf_IMG_06691-940x557.jpg)

I don't know how I missed that the first time, but I would commit multiple felonies for that car.    I LOVE those cars (unfortunately, Datsun - yes, that's who made it - put them out in pine green, piss yellow, pumpkin orange, and a shit brown.   They had the worst original colors. https://zcarguide.com/datsun-280z-stock-paint-interior-colors-us-canada/

FYI, mine was "red" (what I called "pumpkin orange"). 
Title: Re: Anything related to automobiles
Post by: Stadler on August 29, 2018, 07:44:08 AM
I don't know why, but this gets under my skin in a big way:  http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/this-man-was-so-fed-up-trying-to-get-his-tesla-fixed-that-he-ended-up-doing-it-himself/ar-BBMy7GB?ocid=ientp

WTF did he expect?   And oh, by the way, I've been doing that - without the whining, crying and complaining - since I was 19 and figured out how to turn a socket wrench.    I call him a p****.