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Title: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 14, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
Recently I've noticed how much time I spend listening to music. I constantly have my ipod in my pocket with my earbuds beneath my shirt. Of the 16 hours I am awake, I am certain that I spend at least a fourth of that with music playing.
 
I notice that I am very uncomfortable if I leave the house without my ipod. Even in solitary situations, I feel very uneasy. I think this is a good sign that I am 'addicted' to music.
 
Is this something a good or a bad thing? I am going to submit that it's bad. It is not only something I'm dependent on, but it has definitely affected my thoughts. The depressing stuff really does drag me down. It also makes me a generally impatient person and more prone to pessimism. Even when I try to listen to optimistic music, like the stuff by Neal Morse for example, I only enjoy it for a little while before I can't stomach it and have to go back to stuff that's more bleak and depressing.
 
Any fellow sufferers? I am going to try to challenge myself and say that I can't listen to my ipod for a month or so. Break the chains of dependence that I have on it. While music is a source of inspiration for me, I think it's reached the point where it is actually hurting my quality of life.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MasterShakezula on March 14, 2012, 11:56:11 PM
It's as good or bad as what you make of it. 

I do many of the same things, but it doesn't really affect my thoughts or feelings; definitely not to that extent. 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2012, 12:02:36 AM
I'm awake 18 hours of the day and listen to music probably at least 15 hours of that.  I have my own office and desk and have about 200 of my albums ripped on my computer and listen to them for my 8 hour day.  Working outside and meetings are the only times I don't listen to my music. I do a lot of driving between work venues also, so I'm always looking forward to driving during worktime as I know it's the perfect opportunity to listen to music.

I go to the gym with a work mate so between meetings at work and my 1 hour gym session, I'm listening to music.  I even put an album on to go to sleep too.

Yes, I'm addicted.  I don't think it's that bad, but sometimes it does affect my work and my relationship, so if it's not controlled properly, it can be lethal.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lonestar on March 15, 2012, 12:12:28 AM
Addicted is a tricky word to use, since it has such a negative connotation. You have a love of music, that's how I like to look at it.  No matter what stage my addicitions are in, my love of music is a constant, beneficial presence that helps me understand myself and the world around me.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on March 15, 2012, 12:13:25 AM
Is this something a good or a bad thing? I am going to submit that it's bad. It is not only something I'm dependent on, but it has definitely affected my thoughts. The depressing stuff really does drag me down. It also makes me a generally impatient person and more prone to pessimism. Even when I try to listen to optimistic music, like the stuff by Neal Morse for example, I only enjoy it for a little while before I can't stomach it and have to go back to stuff that's more bleak and depressing.
I move that this particular problem was not caused by listening to too much dark music. Now, I could be wrong, as I know almost nothing about you, but it seems likely to me that you've mixed up the causality here.

You're suggesting that you have somehow become "addicted to music", and the dark music you listen to has negatively and permanently affected your mood in some way. I don't know if I buy this; this is not really how the mechanism of addiction works. I don't see how listening to too much music would A) cause you to develop a dependence on music or B) make you more susceptible to the feelings evoked by music.

My hypothesis is that you recently became bummed out for unrelated reasons. If that's the case, listening to dark music would be validating, and validation of negative feelings is a positive feeling that I suppose someone could develop a dependence on. Positive music wouldn't be particularly validating, so you wouldn't listen to that. Perhaps you're also using your iPod as a way to isolate yourself from the environment around you, which would be a very natural response for bummed-out people.

Basically, I'm suggesting that the music is not at fault here, but the way you're using the music. I mean, it sounds like I spend as much time per day as you listening to music, if not more; I'm sure many of the people here would agree. It is my opinion that you are using your iPod in a way that is unhealthy, and that there's some sort of greater problem that you're neglecting. Again, I could be very wrong, but this diagnosis makes much more sense to me.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 15, 2012, 12:41:22 AM
Is this something a good or a bad thing? I am going to submit that it's bad. It is not only something I'm dependent on, but it has definitely affected my thoughts. The depressing stuff really does drag me down. It also makes me a generally impatient person and more prone to pessimism. Even when I try to listen to optimistic music, like the stuff by Neal Morse for example, I only enjoy it for a little while before I can't stomach it and have to go back to stuff that's more bleak and depressing.
I move that this particular problem was not caused by listening to too much dark music. Now, I could be wrong, as I know almost nothing about you, but it seems likely to me that you've mixed up the causality here.

You're suggesting that you have somehow become "addicted to music", and the dark music you listen to has negatively and permanently affected your mood in some way. I don't know if I buy this; this is not really how the mechanism of addiction works. I don't see how listening to too much music would A) cause you to develop a dependence on music or B) make you more susceptible to the feelings evoked by music.

My hypothesis is that you recently became bummed out for unrelated reasons. If that's the case, listening to dark music would be validating, and validation of negative feelings is a positive feeling that I suppose someone could develop a dependence on. Positive music wouldn't be particularly validating, so you wouldn't listen to that. Perhaps you're also using your iPod as a way to isolate yourself from the environment around you, which would be a very natural response for bummed-out people.

Basically, I'm suggesting that the music is not at fault here, but the way you're using the music. I mean, it sounds like I spend as much time per day as you listening to music, if not more; I'm sure many of the people here would agree. It is my opinion that you are using your iPod in a way that is unhealthy, and that there's some sort of greater problem that you're neglecting. Again, I could be very wrong, but this diagnosis makes much more sense to me.
I'd say that feeling bummed out and listening to depressing music both feed off each other. Before I got into depressing music, I was already a bummed out person, but it seems to have gotten worse after listening to more and more depressing music. The underlined portion is also very true of me. I'll often avoid conversations or cut conversations short because I want to get back to listening.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MasterShakezula on March 15, 2012, 12:44:59 AM
I am often sometimes guilty of isolating myself w/ iPod and cutting conversations short to ge back to my tunes. 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: wolfking on March 15, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
I feel I definitely use my music as anti social behaviour.  To be honest, there is nothing more I like than isolating myself with my music, things can suffer, but I don't care.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: jsem on March 15, 2012, 06:40:12 AM
I don't listen to music a whole lot actually. A lot of times, I prefer silence so I can sit and think - I don't always need a soundtrack for what I do.

However, when I do listen - I listen actively, that's the main focus right there and then. And I probably practice music more than I listen.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Sketchy on March 15, 2012, 07:47:37 AM
Yup, I became completely obsessed with it years ago. If I'm not listening to it, I'm either playing it, scheming ideas of stuff to write or sleeping.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: darkshade on March 15, 2012, 08:34:36 AM
If depressing music is too much, stop. Listen to funk. That'll get you out of any slump.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Lowdz on March 15, 2012, 10:29:01 AM
I've been addicted to music for 30 years. Along with my football team it's the constant in my life.
I've always been into happier music (80s melodic rock) than it sounds like you listen to, so retreating into music at bad points in life has always been a positive thing, a mood lifter for me.
you seem stuck in a vicious circle there and your musical choice is reflecting how you feel and you can relate to it better than more cheerful fare. Maybe try to find something halfway to start with.
Sounds like your having a hard time and I wish you good things.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 15, 2012, 04:59:00 PM
I'm addicted to music and proud of it. If I could permanently have my Ipod on then I would.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Zook on March 15, 2012, 05:11:09 PM
Letting music become an obsession: The ZeppelinDT Story


I am not obsessed with music, but I do get aggravated easily when I hear shitty music and can't do anything about it, like at my work.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 15, 2012, 05:12:55 PM
Sounds like your having a hard time and I wish you good things.
Thanks! :)

Yeah so I got rid of my ipod....
;_;
:'(
;_;
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 15, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
lol
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: WindMaster on March 15, 2012, 07:55:16 PM
I would say I'm addicted. If I leave the house without my ipod, drastic things can happen. I get fidgety and can't concentrate.

In social situations, I don't have to have music playing to interact. I think it's more in solitary situations that I find myself needing music.

Honestly, I can't explain it, but when i go without music for a while, I actually feel a withdrawal. I think it's bad when I'm at home with my headphones on not talking to my family, but I need music to function. If I don't get my fix, I get irritable.

Out of the hours when i'm not at school awake, (I think about 9 or 10) I listen to music for the majority.

I always put an album on when I go to sleep.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: skydivingninja on March 15, 2012, 08:29:19 PM
Sounds like your having a hard time and I wish you good things.
Thanks! :)

Yeah so I got rid of my ipod....
;_;
:'(
;_;

Why?  I think you're overthinking things here (as you are wont to do) and maybe letting depressing music affect you too much with how sad it is.  Think instead about how fantastic it is that such music can move you so profoundly, and find some uplifting angles to approach it from.  Steven Wilson does it.  :tup  Of course he'd be very happy with you getting rid of your iPod so maybe you shouldn't use him as a role model for everything. 

There's nothing wrong with listening to music, and certainly nothing wrong with listening to a lot of it.  Just don't worry about things so much.  It'll drive you crazy.  :)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: darkshade on March 18, 2012, 10:35:51 AM
Steven Wilson does it.  :tup  Of course he'd be very happy with you getting rid of your iPod so maybe you shouldn't use him as a role model for everything. 


I don't get it, does SWilson have a stance against iPods/Apple?
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on March 18, 2012, 10:50:46 AM
iPods. SW has a romantic perception of music; he's really into physical albums, and doesn't believe music should be listened to any other way. He also doesn't care for the data loss that comes with putting music in mp3 format.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 18, 2012, 11:30:52 AM
Steven Wilson does it.  :tup  Of course he'd be very happy with you getting rid of your iPod so maybe you shouldn't use him as a role model for everything. 


I don't get it, does SWilson have a stance against iPods/Apple?
No, absolutely not. Where did you ever get that idea? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06JWDLTx4l0)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: The Letter M on March 18, 2012, 11:45:41 AM
I listen to music as much as possible in my waking hours, and even when I sleep, I have my iPod playing next to my bed over night. Last night was Yessongs.

I have music at my computer/desk at work, so when I'm at my desk, I'm listening to music. Always in my car. And if I can, always at home, unless I'm busy with friends/girlfriend or doing other things (like taking a shower). Otherwise, I'll always have something playing.

And even now as I lay in bed and looking at the corner of my small room to the huge pile of boxes/cases full of CDs and music DVDs, I wonder how far my obsession has come in the mere decade I've become so in love with music. In less than ten years, I've spent more money on music and music-related things than I have for anything else.

Yeah, I'm obsessed. But that's okay. :metal

-Marc.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: TioJorge on March 18, 2012, 12:01:21 PM
I don't know if the word 'obsession' can be related to music for me, but it's definitely a very large facet of my life. If I can, I'm listening to music every chance I get. So unless it hinders with what I'm doing at the time (studying, watching a movie, etc.) then yeah music is going to be blaring. Sitting at my computer, music is always on and I'm usually multitasking, searching for some kind of new band or genre; if I'm taking a shower, I've got a playlist on; if I'm doing yard work, I've got my headphones on full blast; if I'm driving, you can bet your ass that car is bumpin'. Boom boom. I love music, and I can't exactly see how it can be an obsession in terms of being 'addicted' as some have mentioned, but it definitely has manifested itself in a way that has encompassed my life, though for the better. Nothing drastic, but certain bands or specific songs have shaped my life in little ways that add up over the years. It's hard to imagine that in my younger years, while I grew up with many influences that molded what I listen to now, I didn't have any interest in music at all. I didn't even buy my first CD until I was in highschool (Metallica - MOP, lil' tidbit). While I can't say that I 'couldn't live without it', it's accurate to say I can't 'picture my life' without music; it'd be a very hard transition...very, very difficult.

Suffice it to say I've let music take over a portion of my life; it's certainly apart of who I am now. Though I'm not looking to date and I am enjoying the single life to its utmost potential (oh and SCREW FEMALES, YOU DIRTY VAGINAS), I can say now with only a slight cringe that if someone I'm dating can't bear to listen to the music I listen to or at least let me have my time to rock out, the relationship wouldn't work. So yeah...knowing that somewhat pathetic fact, I think it's safe to say that music is, in some way, my beloved obsession.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: fadetoblackdude7 on March 18, 2012, 12:15:57 PM
I wouldn't use the word "addicted" but "passionate". You're in love with music so you have to be surrounded by it all the time, which is a good thing. The only bad thing about carrying your ipod with you everywhere is that it might be weird in social situations lol.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 18, 2012, 05:29:33 PM
Sounds like your having a hard time and I wish you good things.
Thanks! :)

Yeah so I got rid of my ipod....
;_;
:'(
;_;
lol
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 18, 2012, 05:30:03 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 05:32:36 PM
Why

is that funny

???
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 18, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
It seem horribly unnecessary, from my point of view.  I've had trouble regulating my ipod use as you have, and have had to come up with ground-rules to limit my listening, but getting rid of it seems pretty absurd since there's still loads of places where it comes in handy and wouldn't substitute for social interaction or likewise anyway.  Did you actually get rid of it, as in selling it? 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 05:46:04 PM
(https://greenvoices.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/gutter.jpg)

...it was raining and I was in a romantic mood.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 18, 2012, 05:50:39 PM
Okay, NOW it's funny.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on March 18, 2012, 05:51:00 PM
You could have made a child very happy. 

That's what Jesus would have done. 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 06:01:08 PM
You could have made a child very happy. 
Psh it has Opeth and Porcupine Tree on it.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 18, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
You could have made a child very happy. 
Psh it has Opeth and Porcupine Tree on it.
Which takes like a couple seconds to replace.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MasterShakezula on March 18, 2012, 10:00:28 PM
Hayden, I generally sympathize with/relate to you, but man, I am laughing my ass off.   :rollin

I've never heard of someone throwing their iPod in a drain because they fear they're listening to music too much. 

I mean no offense, but that's a bit on the side closest to strangeville. 

I do hope you are able to sort your emotions out; I think that the problem here isn't music, but emotions.  IT sounds like you're in a tough period and I know you're a bright guy, so you'll figure things out. 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: The Letter M on March 18, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
I do hope you are able to sort your emotions out; I think that the problem here isn't music, but emotions.  IT sounds like you're in a tough period and I know you're a bright guy, so you'll figure things out.

What's odd is, in tough emotional times, I usually turn to music as my solace, but I guess different strokes for different folks.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 10:07:56 PM
I've never heard of someone throwing their iPod in a drain because they fear they're listening to music too much. 
Makin' history. :hat
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ZBomber on March 18, 2012, 10:14:58 PM
Did you seriously throw your ipod down a gutter?  :lol
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 18, 2012, 10:15:54 PM
Ħ,

(https://filebox.vt.edu/users/mrouser/malfunction.jpg)

Actually, I don't believe you.  You can't be that stupid that you would put an iPod down the drain.  You just can't be.  Not when selling it to a pawn shop or giving it as a gift is an option.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 10:18:23 PM
Do you really believe me? Do you really not believe me?
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 18, 2012, 10:23:45 PM
I think you're doing a poor job trying to troll us.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 10:25:33 PM
I don't see anything wrong with trashing stuff you don't want anymore. Not everyone cares about money, Professor Rouser.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on March 18, 2012, 10:32:15 PM
Dear H,

I am writing to you in case you were serious about having thrown your iPod down the gutter. If you were not serious about that, then you may disregard the majority of this letter and skip down the the section marked sarcasm.

It is my humble opinion, H, that you should not have done that with the iPod. First of all, it is still my opinion that the music was never the problem; you were only having trouble reconciling your emotions with the music. If my analysis was correct, then getting rid of your iPod was not at all necessary, because it wasn't what was causing the problem.

But you made your decision, and I'm not going to say it was wrong to get rid of your iPod. What I do disagree with is the manner of disposal. I offer three better options, which you may consider in case you find yourself in a similar situation in the future:

1) Giving the iPod as a gift. Here, you as well as the recipient derive benefit.
2) Selling the iPod on eBay, in a pawnshop, etc. Again, this is a win-win situation for you and the purchaser.
3) Disposing of it in a proper manner. If no one is willing to take the iPod off your hands, doing this wouldn't necessarily benefit anybody, but it wouldn't hurt anybody either.

(What you did was not a proper disposal. Throwing an iPod into a sewer will inevitably hurt the environment in some way -- sewage systems are not built to handle electronics. Many stores that sell electronics, such as Best Buy, have bins for recycling.)

Do consider these options, and do not hesitate to ask if you have any questions.

theseoafs




Sarcasm: Congratulations! You said something in jest and I took you seriously. I apologize for whatever inconvenience I have caused you. Do enjoy this video of a small dog with a poorly spelled name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNh9C6S4-6M

theseoafs
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Dr. DTVT on March 18, 2012, 10:37:14 PM
If you actually did throw it down the sewer, you're an incredible ass for not properly disposing of it.  There is a reason they have special places for disposing of electronics waste, where they can recover and remove the components like bromine-containing flame retardants and lead from solder.

EDIT:  theseoafs beat me to the recycling thing, so obviously I'm not the only one thinking it.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 10:44:19 PM
If I forgot about how important the environment is, then I'm an irresponsible consumer. Not an ass. An ass is someone who goes out of his way to bash people he doesn't even know.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Nick on March 18, 2012, 10:51:23 PM
If you actually did throw it down the sewer, you're an incredible ass for not properly disposing of it.  There is a reason they have special places for disposing of electronics waste, where they can recover and remove the components like bromine-containing flame retardants and lead from solder.

EDIT:  theseoafs beat me to the recycling thing, so obviously I'm not the only one thinking it.

If I forgot about how important the environment is, then I'm an irresponsible consumer. Not an ass. An ass is someone who goes out of his way to bash people he doesn't even know.

You both need to stop taking jabs at each other.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Jaq on March 18, 2012, 11:04:37 PM
Why does it feel like I'm being trolled? 

And if not...somehow this doesn't exactly feel like it was the solution. More like a symptom of the actual problem.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:07:28 PM
Would you tell a smoker or a junk food addict that their ingesting of malnutritious material is not actually the problem, rather their problem lies in "deeper psychological issues"?
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 18, 2012, 11:08:02 PM
H did what any sensible person should do if they suffer the misfortune of owning an Apple product: throw it down the drain.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 11:09:10 PM
Would you tell a smoker or a junk food addict that their ingesting of malnutritious material is not actually the problem, rather their problem lies in "deeper psychological issues"?

Sometimes, yes.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:11:08 PM
Would you tell a smoker or a junk food addict that their ingesting of malnutritious material is not actually the problem, rather their problem lies in "deeper psychological issues"?

Sometimes, yes.
Agreeable answer, but that wouldn't be your 'default' diagnosis, would it? I'd say you solve the obvious problem at hand, and if emotional issues persist, then continue your investigation.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 11:15:54 PM
Would you tell a smoker or a junk food addict that their ingesting of malnutritious material is not actually the problem, rather their problem lies in "deeper psychological issues"?

Sometimes, yes.
Agreeable answer, but that wouldn't be your 'default' diagnosis, would it? I'd say you solve the obvious problem at hand, and if emotional issues persist, then continue your investigation.

If you like the idea of giving out band-aids all the time, sure. But people do things for reasons. If you felt "obsessed" with music or whatever, then you had a reason to do that. Throwing away the Ipod may solve the problem, however it didn't appear out of thin air for no reason. But if you're not interesting in why you do what you do, but only what you do, then that's your call and if you're happy with it, then that's what matters.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on March 18, 2012, 11:18:59 PM
That is my default diagnosis in this case because music is completely benign. It is, for all intents and purposes, not possible to develop an addiction to music.

If you feel uncomfortable out in public without your iPod, that means that you're just an uncomfortable person and you were using the iPod for isolative purposes. This is not the same thing as, for example, a smoker who gets jittery without cigarettes.

EDIT: Not that it really matters. None of us really know what's going on inside of your head. This is just something to chew on.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:21:11 PM
If you feel uncomfortable out in public without your iPod, that means that you're just an uncomfortable person and you were using the iPod for isolative purposes.
Taking away the mental shelter can only be helpful, wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
If you feel uncomfortable out in public without your iPod, that means that you're just an uncomfortable person and you were using the iPod for isolative purposes.
Taking away the mental shelter can only be helpful, wouldn't you agree?

No. Because you're essentially just conforming to societies standards of being able to be out in public without music.


Personally, I hate going out without my Ipod. I have social anxiety and would get super anxious and nervous when I'd go out without it or without a friend or something. But this is just who I am. Throwing away my Ipod won't solve my anxiety issues.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 18, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
H did what any sensible person should do if they suffer the misfortune of owning an Apple product: throw it down the drain.

Gadough..... you're alright. :hat
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Sigz on March 18, 2012, 11:28:39 PM
what the fuck is going on in this thread
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:30:15 PM
Personally, I hate going out without my Ipod. I have social anxiety and would get super anxious and nervous when I'd go out without it or without a friend or something. But this is just who I am. Throwing away my Ipod won't solve my anxiety issues.
But being without your ipod forces you to confront the problem doesn't it? In the end, you might solve your social anxiety because you shut the door behind you.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 11:31:42 PM
Personally, I hate going out without my Ipod. I have social anxiety and would get super anxious and nervous when I'd go out without it or without a friend or something. But this is just who I am. Throwing away my Ipod won't solve my anxiety issues.
But being without your ipod forces you to confront the problem doesn't it? In the end, you might solve your social anxiety because you shut the door behind you.

No, it doesn't. You're not confronting your problem. The action is just a manifestation of the reason. You're confronting the action, not the reason.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: antigoon on March 18, 2012, 11:32:57 PM
We've got a regular Steven Wilson on our hands.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ZBomber on March 18, 2012, 11:34:31 PM
what the fuck is going on in this thread

Just H over-analyzing the fuck out of every aspect in his life, nothing out of the ordinary.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 18, 2012, 11:35:48 PM
what the fuck is going on in this thread

Just H over-analyzing the fuck out of every aspect in his life, nothing out of the ordinary.


ITT Brother H slowly turns into Andy.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: jcmistat on March 18, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
I let music affect me regardless what state of mind I am in.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 18, 2012, 11:39:16 PM
This thread...
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: darkshade on March 18, 2012, 11:45:50 PM
As I read this thread I can't stop thinking this:
(https://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/225503709_96cef0e671.jpg)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Jaq on March 18, 2012, 11:47:18 PM
Assuming this is serious, allow me to be a little less flippant here.

I know all too well how addiction works. Personal confession time: I am a recovering alcoholic. Seventeen years of sobriety as of January 18.  And I can tell you, from my experiences since then, that there is something about me that is prone to addiction regardless of the fact that I stopped drinking. There is something in my personality prone to it. My habit of buying more books than I can possibly read, more albums than I can possibly listen to-I overdo things. I am aware of this and strive to apply the same level of self restraint to everything else that I do with my alcoholism.

I can tell you from experience that, if you genuinely have a problem with addiction, you have barely scratched the surface of dealing with the issue by just throwing away an iPod, assuming you actually did. You still have the underlying issue, the underlying problem. I don't think you're addicted to music at all, but you clearly have problems that need to be faced if the thought process you went through in this thread actually occurred.

And if it didn't, well, fuck it. Think I proved I know something about addiction.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/YkEXc.png)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: darkshade on March 18, 2012, 11:55:25 PM
the line will continue
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Post by: ZBomber on March 18, 2012, 11:57:18 PM
H since you seem to like graphs/charts so much....
(https://i.imgur.com/wlUhm.png)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 11:58:35 PM
There's no way I'm throwing away my computer, dude.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:00:58 AM
H did what any sensible person should do if they suffer the misfortune of owning an Apple product: throw it down the drain.

Gadough..... you're alright. :hat

I'm actually posting this on my Macbook Pro while listening to music on my iPod Classic and periodically texting a friend on my iPhone

was being sarcastic lol
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 19, 2012, 12:02:42 AM
H did what any sensible person should do if they suffer the misfortune of owning an Apple product: throw it down the drain.

Gadough..... you're alright. :hat

I'm actually posting this on my Macbook Pro while listening to music on my iPod Classic and periodically texting a friend on my iPhone

was being sarcastic lol


Gadough, you have betrayed me. I thought we had something special. :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:06:17 AM
You are but one of many.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 12:06:51 AM
We can be friends, BVD. I'm the one who actually threw it in a gutter. :)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ytserush on March 19, 2012, 12:07:19 AM
Don't have an Ipod or a computer filled with music, yet I'm obsessed with it.
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Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:09:12 AM
There's no way I'm throwing away my computer, dude.
Okay. Well then...um...lol.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: BlobVanDam on March 19, 2012, 12:10:17 AM
We can be friends, BVD. I'm the one who actually threw it in a gutter. :)

I'll think about it, but I'm not sure I'm ready for a new relationship right now after having my soul crushed by Gadou....................... sorry, got distracted staring at Gadough's avatar and now I forgot what I was saying.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:11:44 AM
Yeah that happens sometimes, sorry. :-\
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Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:17:04 AM
Oh shit Drew isn't a dawg anymore.
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Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:18:37 AM
lol

The dog avatars may return in the future. For right now, I'm very content with Ariana.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on March 19, 2012, 12:18:56 AM
Oh shit Drew isn't a dawg anymore.
This disappointed me at first, but then she gave me the look, and all my disappointment went away.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:19:40 AM
Yeah I fapped too.
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Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:20:15 AM
You sick, perverted fuck.
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Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:21:31 AM
 :police: :police: :police: Personal attack, reported  :police: :police: :police:
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:24:05 AM
She's also used as my get out of jail free card. You know how hot girls will flirt with cops to get out of a ticket? I'm pretty sure my avatar would have a similar effect on the mods.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: lateralus88 on March 19, 2012, 12:24:49 AM
Yeah, I feel like mine works that way too.




Because like, my avatar will stab you and burn down your church if you say anything.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Gadough on March 19, 2012, 12:25:54 AM
And then be eerily charming in interviews when you'd expect him to be the opposite.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MasterShakezula on March 19, 2012, 12:26:10 AM
I'm pretty sure you'd have to go full blow and change your gender, post pix of your true 'feminine' self, ect.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: skydivingninja on March 19, 2012, 06:56:55 AM
So yeah, I'm going to mirror the thoughts of everyone else and say that it was stupid to dispose of your iPod in the proper way, not even to give it as a gift or sell it.  You're a poor kid, God knows you could use the money.  That's what, a $200 piece of hardware you just tossed? 

Its also clear that you're just ignoring any sensible advice given to you (like from theseoafs and Adami, who are both very smart guys) about what you perceive to be your obsession so I don't even know why I'm bothering.  I'll just join everyone in staring in awe at this nonsensical turn of events.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Nick on March 19, 2012, 08:01:32 AM
H did what any sensible person should do if they suffer the misfortune of owning an Apple product: throw it down the drain.

Gadough..... you're alright. :hat

I'm actually posting this on my Macbook Pro while listening to music on my iPod Classic and periodically texting a friend on my iPhone

was being sarcastic lol


All that said you were still correct with your initial statement. :p
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on March 19, 2012, 12:13:18 PM
If you feel uncomfortable out in public without your iPod, that means that you're just an uncomfortable person and you were using the iPod for isolative purposes.
Taking away the mental shelter can only be helpful, wouldn't you agree?
Maybe, but we could just as easily have solved this problem with a bit of self-control and a willingness to be outgoing and to step outside of your comfort zone.

But this is mostly beside the point. It's not the fact that you got rid of your iPod that I disagree with, because you own it and can do whatever you want with it. What I disagree with, again, is the manner of disposal.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: bosk1 on March 19, 2012, 02:59:13 PM
(https://greenvoices.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/gutter.jpg)

...it was raining and I was in a romantic mood.

Green Lens Flare Ghost is now rockin' out to some Opeth.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Adami on March 19, 2012, 03:04:55 PM

Green Lens Flare Ghost is now rockin' out to some Opeth.

Obsessively.
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Post by: bosk1 on March 19, 2012, 03:05:35 PM
That's how Green Lens Flare Ghost rolls.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
I'm curious, how did this work out? Still facing addiction to music, bought a new iPod since, or what's up?
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on January 30, 2013, 05:13:43 PM
Oh wow, I forgot about this!

I basically stopped listening to music for a long time. I recently picked up my brother's old ipod which I now use mainly to listen to podcasts. I have a small playlist of music that I play at the gym, which primarily features Eminem and movie music. I'll occasionally listen to my old favorites at home from time to time, as well as new releases. But I listen to music WAY less. Probably 30 minutes a day, max.


I do think I was unhealthily using music to escape reality. Now I'm using DTF to unhealthily escape reality. :lol
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on January 30, 2013, 05:17:38 PM
YOU CAN'T ESCAPE REALITY
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Post by: Ryzee on January 30, 2013, 05:18:41 PM
Dude H, if you're into unhealthily escaping reality you should give drugs & alcohol a go!  :tup
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on January 30, 2013, 05:20:06 PM
AND WOMEN!   ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2013, 05:21:58 PM
I understand there is a game called "World of Warcraft" which is designed for the purpose of escaping reality.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: theseoafs on January 30, 2013, 05:24:28 PM
I understand there is a game called "World of Warcraft" which is designed for the purpose of escaping reality.

Or Second Life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3d_fqDcN1s
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on January 30, 2013, 05:27:38 PM
Death is the only escape. 
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 30, 2013, 05:27:54 PM
Do you really think you're happier without listening to music? I find that really hard to believe, especially if you were prone to being so affected by it. There is a chance there's a world of musical genres out there that would have benefited you as much as this "depressive music" dragged you down. And there's the tossed iPod floating in a river somewhere and someone's gonna pass by it and say "oh geez, imagine being the bloke who accidentally dropped his iPod into the sewers" because there's just no logical reason for anyone to toss it down themselves.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ryzee on January 30, 2013, 05:30:37 PM
AND WOMEN!   ;) ;) ;)

I think we're all aware that he's trying with this one.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 05:35:07 PM
Do you really think you're happier without listening to music? I find that really hard to believe, especially if you were prone to being so affected by it. There is a chance there's a world of musical genres out there that would have benefited you as much as this "depressive music" dragged you down. And there's the tossed iPod floating in a river somewhere and someone's gonna pass by it and say "oh geez, imagine being the bloke who accidentally dropped his iPod into the sewers" because there's just no logical reason for anyone to toss it down themselves.

(https://www.livescience.com/3211-14-percent-adults-read.html)

-Marc.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on January 30, 2013, 05:36:40 PM
Do you really think you're happier without listening to music? I find that really hard to believe, especially if you were prone to being so affected by it. There is a chance there's a world of musical genres out there that would have benefited you as much as this "depressive music" dragged you down. And there's the tossed iPod floating in a river somewhere and someone's gonna pass by it and say "oh geez, imagine being the bloke who accidentally dropped his iPod into the sewers" because there's just no logical reason for anyone to toss it down themselves.
Life has many wonders and music is just one of them. I'd like to experience something else.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: MoraWintersoul on January 30, 2013, 05:46:23 PM
Do you really think you're happier without listening to music? I find that really hard to believe, especially if you were prone to being so affected by it. There is a chance there's a world of musical genres out there that would have benefited you as much as this "depressive music" dragged you down. And there's the tossed iPod floating in a river somewhere and someone's gonna pass by it and say "oh geez, imagine being the bloke who accidentally dropped his iPod into the sewers" because there's just no logical reason for anyone to toss it down themselves.
Life has many wonders and music is just one of them. I'd like to experience something else.
Well so do I, but when I want to take a break from music and the internet, I don't toss my computer out the window.

We all hear those stories of people tossing their cigarettes and junk food in the trash and you probably wanted to do something drastic about it but have you ever heard of anyone experiencing serious music addiction like the one you described now? You should have double-checked whether it's possible to be so addicted to using that one piece of equipment before you even sold it or recycled it, let alone thrown it away. It's not a Silmaril, it wasn't burning your hand :lol

Moreover, I am also very uneasy going out without my cellphone to listen to music to, but that's because I find to be it a lovely companion. I may be anxious but this town is just full of people I don't even want to make eye contact with, let alone have them approach me in the street and strike up a conversation. I think it's a valid reason to isolate yourself. If I wanted to beat my anxiety, I wouldn't toss my cellphone away and then go without it because I have no other choice, I'd look at that motherfucker resting on some shelf and say "nuh uh I ain't carrying you with me today" and then ride off into the sunset without it.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: Ħ on January 30, 2013, 05:58:13 PM
It was almost a year ago. Do I regret it? I personally benefit from the decision, but obviously I did nature wrong. What's done is done.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: TheOutlawXanadu on January 30, 2013, 06:11:41 PM
Not sure how related this is, but one musical habit I've seen become an obsession to a detriment is the rating of music. I followed this one guy on Rate Your Music - someone many of us know quite well whose username rhymed with nix o' dock - who got to a point where he was rating a hundred items a week (albums, songs, etc.) He eventually stopped and basically said, "It got to the point I cared more about rating music and saying I knew of one more band than actually enjoying said band."

That's a harmful, obsessive place that can really hinder one's enjoyment of anything, really.
Title: Re: Letting music become an obsession
Post by: The Letter M on January 30, 2013, 07:32:30 PM
Not sure how related this is, but one musical habit I've seen become an obsession to a detriment is the rating of music. I followed this one guy on Rate Your Music - someone many of us know quite well whose username rhymed with nix o' dock - who got to a point where he was rating a hundred items a week (albums, songs, etc.) He eventually stopped and basically said, "It got to the point I cared more about rating music and saying I knew of one more band than actually enjoying said band."

That's a harmful, obsessive place that can really hinder one's enjoyment of anything, really.

Sounds understandable. I can't imagine being a rater/critic of something I truly enjoy and love. I feel like the whole process would destroy my enjoyment, having to look at things more objectively and not let myself become immersed in the actual music.

I'm also glad that, after my initial years of 'discovering' prog rock music, that I leveled out and realized that there were some bands I just didn't like or could really get into, and after I saturated my ears with enough prog, I knew what not to listen to anymore, or I just stopped discovering new bands. I fell in love with a core group of bands that I decided to learn and listen to up-and-down, front-to-back. Do I regret not being able to get into other bands in the last few years because of that? A little, but I have made some newer discoveries in the last 2-3 years (like Anathema, Riverside, Moon Safari, and a few others), but I still can't get into some of the older 70's prog bands that I missed out on in my formative years of becoming a prog head (like Van Der Graaf Generator, Gentle Giant, Camel, and many many more).

I guess one could say I know what I like and I like what I know.

-Marc.