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General => Archive => Political and Religious => Topic started by: Kosmo on March 06, 2012, 11:32:34 PM
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So I don't know how many of you know about Joseph Kony, he's a guerrilla group leader in Uganda who abducts children from their homes and makes the boys soldiers and the girls sex slaves. It's estimated that over 66 000 children have been abducted since the rebellion begun.
There's a movement to make Kony famous so he can be captured.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=g-all&context=G2608787FAAAAAAAAHAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc&feature=g-all&context=G2608787FAAAAAAAAHAA)
^ Watch that, it's a great video on the matter.
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my wife had just finished watching that via facebook. what little I caught of it sounded interesting
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This is blowing up my twitter/facebook feeds. Very moving indeed
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Well, that's very irritating.
The story is absolutely sad and true but its background is really irritating. I feel myself very bad. I also share this video via facebook and twitter. Plus, some of social website I've been in. Feedbacks are coming, sad that many people don't know him and his crimes.
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I'm very skeptical of Invisible Children. The LRA hasn't even been active in Uganda since 2006.
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https://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/
Another version of the story.
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As much as the video makes me want to help this article does speak a lot of truth about the issue as well.
https://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/ (https://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/)
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think hard about the video which you’ve just watched. Invisible Children isn’t exactly the most transparent charity in the world, though for me the problem doesn’t lie with the charities funding/how they spend their money (obviously they’ve done quite well here because they’ve chosen to spend a large amount on this film which has generated a huge amount of awareness).
The problem lies with one of the main principles of the charity. Quite a lot of the funds which the IC receive go directly to the Ugandan military (who aren’t exactly transparent either, there are countless cases of rape & corruption) which are meant to start/increase military operations against Kony. IMO donations really shouldn’t be used to support any form of military intervention - especially from any foreign country because ultimately that becomes pretty dangerous. I’m not sure what, but there needs to be an alternate strategy for achieving his arrest.
Edit: Only ~30% of the money donated goes anywhere. the rest is admin, pretty unbelievable. the money that does go somewhere isn't for a good cause either.
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I'm sorry, but this documentary is absolutely difficult for me to get through. It's clear cut sensationalism.
I completely recognize the issue as something that needs to be taken care of, but this documentary acts as if there is nothing else in the world to be concentrated on other than this Kony mother fucker. But the presentation was very lame, if you ask me. Especially the interview with the director's son. I feel like I'm watching one of those Sarah Mclachlan animal cruelty videos.
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I'm sorry, but this documentary is absolutely difficult for me to get through. It's clear cut sensationalism.
I completely recognize the issue as something that needs to be taken care of, but this documentary acts as if there is nothing else in the world to be concentrated on other than this Kony mother fucker. But the presentation was very lame, if you ask me. Especially the interview with the director's son. I feel like I'm watching one of those Sarah Mclachlan animal cruelty videos.
Throw in the fact that Kony hasn't been active in Uganda since 2006, and you've got a slightly fishy situation.
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The Ugandan government has done some things on an equally horrific level as Kony/LRA. Gloss over the facts more.
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The Ugandan government has done some things on an equally horrific level as Kony/LRA. Gloss over the facts more.
Right, but the entire video is dedicated to Kony...
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That group has given money to the Ugandan army/government.
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That group has given money to the Ugandan army/government.
Can you be more specific as to what side you're arguing for? I don't know if you're disagreeing with me or adding to what I've already stated is wrong with the video. :lol
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I think you guys agree.
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I think you guys agree.
My OG post was aimed at the video, not you UMH! :facepalm: I should have quoted the OP or something. My bad, homes!
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sigh... It makes me sad that the first instinct of people is to criticize the charity and not any of the horrific things that happen over in Africa.
Invisible Children's response to the critiques:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html
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Good job reading the posts.
What is happening over there is awful. But, the charity donates to the Ugandan army. The same Ugandan army that is guilty of the same shit the LRA has done.
I'm not giving an organization like Invisible Children a fucking penny.
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Good job reading the link I posted...
Re: Ugandan government human rights record
We do not defend any of the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Ugandan government or the Ugandan army (UPDF). None of the money donated through Invisible Children ever goes to the government of Uganda. Yet the only feasible and proper way to stop Kony and protect the civilians he targets is to coordinate efforts with regional governments.
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That VisibleChildren tumblr has sources for their money going to the Ugandan military.
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I'm not giving an organization like Invisible Children a fucking penny.
Unfortunately, they are going to rake in big-time with all this heartstring pulling.
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And next week people will completely forget about it.
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If you feel Invisible Children, Inc. is dodgy, don't donate. It's that simple. Spend a few minutes to contact politicians or celebrities instead. Regardless, I don't believe that Kony is not a real problem. I have no issue giving them my money to educate and inform and keep this topic in the public eye. Also, because of their efforts, I can only imagine all the additional money other charities with similar focus will also benefit.
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My fb friends were annoying with posting that repeatedly yesterday:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/3/7/5e734e55-0490-443f-aa87-a1a31f748c44.jpg)
(https://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr161/jeff_farkas/ca0.jpg)
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sigh... It makes me sad that the first instinct of people is to criticize the charity and not any of the horrific things that happen over in Africa.
Well, one of the good things that has come from this video is the huge amount of awareness that is has raised. If you are going to donate, it's probably best to not to it through the IC however, only ~32% of donations actually go anywhere and even though they say it's not going to the Ugandan Government, they didn't specifically state that they're not contributing to the Ugandan military.
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Raising awareness is fine, but don't start a charity under the guise that you are actually helping these kids. Say you're raising awareness.
Also, it's fine to bitch about IC, but does any one know of any alternatives?
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sigh... It makes me sad that the first instinct of people is to criticize the charity and not any of the horrific things that happen over in Africa.
Well, one of the good things that has come from this video is the huge amount of awareness that is has raised. If you are going to donate, it's probably best to not to it through the IC however, only ~32% of donations actually go anywhere and even though they say it's not going to the Ugandan Government, they didn't specifically state that they're not contributing to the Ugandan military.
RE: 32%
https://s3.amazonaws.com/www.invisiblechildren.com/critiques.html
Invisible Children's mission is to stop LRA violence and support the war-affected communities in East and Central Africa. These are the three ways we achieve this mission; each is essential:
1) Make the world aware of the LRA. This includes making documentary films and touring them around the world so that they are seen for free by millions of people.
2) Channel energy from viewers of IC films into large-scale advocacy campaigns to stop the LRA and protect civilians.
3) Operate programs on the ground in LRA-affected areas that provide protection, rehabilitation and development assistance.
As you will see, we spend roughly one third of our money on each of these three goals. This three-prong approach is what makes Invisible Children unique. Some organizations focus exclusively on documenting human rights abuses, some focus exclusively on international advocacy or awareness, and some focus exclusively on on-the-ground development. We do all three. At the same time. This comprehensive model is intentional and has proven to be very effective.
We are committed, and always have been, to be 100% financially transparent and to communicate in plain language the mission of the organization so that everyone can make an informed decision about whether they want to support our strategy.
Raising awareness is fine, but don't start a charity under the guise that you are actually helping these kids. Say you're raising awareness.
Also, it's fine to bitch about IC, but does any one know of any alternatives?
https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?keyword_list=uganda&Submit2=GO&bay=search.results
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1) Make the world aware of the LRA. This includes making documentary films and touring them around the world so that they are seen for free by millions of people.
2) Channel energy from viewers of IC films into large-scale advocacy campaigns to stop the LRA and protect civilians.
3) Operate programs on the ground in LRA-affected areas that provide protection, rehabilitation and development assistance.
really the only one which matters in my opinion. sure, some of their budget needs to go towards raising awareness but 60%+?! nooo, it really isn't right.
https://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/18909727859/on-kony-2012-i-honestly-wanted-to-stay-as-far
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My fb friends were annoying with posting that repeatedly yesterday:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/3/7/5e734e55-0490-443f-aa87-a1a31f748c44.jpg)
(https://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr161/jeff_farkas/ca0.jpg)
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with you.
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Good job reading the link I posted...
Re: Ugandan government human rights record
We do not defend any of the human rights abuses perpetrated by the Ugandan government or the Ugandan army (UPDF). None of the money donated through Invisible Children ever goes to the government of Uganda. Yet the only feasible and proper way to stop Kony and protect the civilians he targets is to coordinate efforts with regional governments.
The problem is that while Kony seems to have been rendered irrelevant years ago, Yoweri Museveni is still busy being a tyrannical bastard. It's all well and good to say that you don't support the current government of Uganda, but when you're focusing on a lesser problem than one still occurring, you're benefiting it greatly. I'll give IC props for bringing attention to a real POS, and it's very possible that all of this attention might lead to him developing a case of bulletitis*, but whether intentional or not, it's also serving as one helluva propaganda piece for Museveni.
*it's also conceivable that Kony feels the heat and rushes out to build a new army of kiddos to defend himself.
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best read I've seen so far on the whole thing: https://t.co/IYGsKf2X
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"There are many problems in Africa, but let's just choose the one that will affect people emotionally the most and we can put some evil villain face on so we can rake in some cash!!"
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Never heard of Rush Limbaugh before this, but holy fucking shit. OBAMA DID SOMETHING, QUICK, SHIT ON IT.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians
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I don't know what I found more appalling: the part in question which also involves him going into Libya, or every transcript after that.
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Never heard of Rush Limbaugh before this, but holy fucking shit. OBAMA DID SOMETHING, QUICK, SHIT ON IT.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/14/obama_invades_uganda_targets_christians
:rollin at the caller
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Hmm... apparently only 33 cents on the dollar actually ends up in Uganda (from donations). A lot of the left overs go to paying for these slicked up videos. I understand that the cause of exposing Kony is a valiant one, but is this the right way to go about it?
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Hmm... apparently only 33 cents on the dollar actually ends up in Uganda (from donations). A lot of the left overs go to paying for these slicked up videos. I understand that the cause of exposing Kony is a valiant one, but is this the right way to go about it?
In a long answer:
No.
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(https://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3278374_700b.jpg)
Oh, and the oil finding is true.
https://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/25/uganda-oil-find-energy-companies
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https://www.sabotagetimes.com/life/kony-2012-why-im-opposed-to-the-campaign/
I do not doubt for a second that those involved in KONY 2012 have great intentions, nor do I doubt for a second that Joseph Kony is a very evil man. But despite this, I’m strongly opposed to the KONY 2012 campaign.
[...] Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture [...] Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping... read more by clicking the link above
This is the typical issue that has been over and over time again. Live Aid, etc. The best solution? Stop meddling in foreign affairs and call your representative and tell him that you don't want your tax money wasted on a conflict that does not affect you.
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That is a moment of genius with memes.
I knew about Kony before, but mostly he's been very inactive for the last 6 years. It's really useless to try go after him now, it'd be like bin Laden all over again.
Then again, if the US wants to help Africa - how about stop subsidizing local farming, open up trade barriers and stop giving governments like Rwanda tons of foreign aid, some of which end up killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people in eastern Kongo.
Better to just butt out of the region, or at least do the conquest a bit like China does it. China handles it like business - the US tries to win it militarily.
The only thing that's going to make it better is dropping trade barriers, opening up for free trade and helping their governments build up a clear understanding of private property rights.
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Wow...
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/kony-2012-activist-filmmaker-arrested/
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Though in his defense, I don't believe he was masturbating. He was having sex with invisible children.
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I just came to post that.
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And that's the effect of posting an internet video you expect to go viral when you can't take criticism. It's hard to pity him.
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Wow...
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/kony-2012-activist-filmmaker-arrested/
:lol Amazing.
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Epic fail.
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And that's the effect of posting an internet video you expect to go viral when you can't take criticism. It's hard to pity him.
I don't think they were expecting it to go this viral to anything close to this level. That's why they were going to litter cities with posters of Kony. No need for that now lol.
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(https://i.imgur.com/0Bwiv.png)
They wanted it to go viral. He should have expected it.
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My fb friends were annoying with posting that repeatedly yesterday:
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2012/3/7/5e734e55-0490-443f-aa87-a1a31f748c44.jpg)
(https://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr161/jeff_farkas/ca0.jpg)
:lol
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Also, it's fine to bitch about IC, but does any one know of any alternatives?
At what point do the citizens of a country have to take responsibility for themselves and their own well-being? I agree that horrors like this and the thigns Idi Amin did back in the day in Uganda are things that my middle-class pea brain cannot ever begin to fathom, however I CAN imagine some pretty harsh shit. Given the harshness os shit I can envision and imagine, if that were happening in MY country you can bet your ass I would take one of two options... A. Get the fuck outta Dodge or 2. Organise, arm and fight the fuck back.
I guess as Americans we have played part of savior so many times in the world in just my lifetime and still get the "Fuck Americans" attitude from pious little university fucks raised on an ultra-liberal curriculum or people conditioned to simply hate America no matter what... that my give-a-shit-o-meter is hard to crank up to the "Care" setting about third world shitholes anymore.
Call me jaded.
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Wow...
https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/kony-2012-activist-filmmaker-arrested/
BWAHAHAHAH!!!
Epic!
“We want to do some epic things because our time on Earth is so short,” Russell told ABC News as his campaign was taking off. “Why not do this? "
What spank the monkey in public? LMFAO
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I guess as Americans we have played part of savior so many times in the world in just my lifetime and still get the "Fuck Americans" attitude from pious little university fucks raised on an ultra-liberal curriculum or people conditioned to simply hate America no matter what... that my give-a-shit-o-meter is hard to crank up to the "Care" setting about third world shitholes anymore.
Call me jaded.
Yeah. Playing the part of savior... Putting up trade barriers, subsidizing internal markets (so foreign goods can't compete), practicing mercantilism. Meddling in internal affairs of other nations, covertly overthrowing democratically elected governments and propping up dictators for strategic interests. Arming the Taliban, radicalizing some Muslims, aiding terrorist groups. Perhaps most recently and so blatantly: picking up innocent civilians in random countries and putting them in cages where they are tortured, and no court hearings, no lawyers, no trials. It's realpolitik. No morals, just Machiavellian.
Case in point: During the Arab spring, the US was all over helping Libyan rebels and Egyptian rebels. But when it came to Bahrain.. crickets. Bahrain is a Sunni power, and the rebels were Shiite. The government of Bahrain just happens to be backed by Saudi Arabia - one of the cruelest of all dictatorships on Earth (they're MUCH worse than Iran). And Saudi Arabia just so happen to have the largest oil reserves in the world and be a close friend of the US. This is how stuff works.
But then, stuff has to be sold to the public. You're doing something to help people. And maybe, sometimes the policies have actually tried that, but no matter the rationalization, this stuff has NOT made the US come off as the good guys to be frank. People don't have irrational reasons for their hate. Why would they care about a country on the other side of the world if it weren't for something real.
Luckily you're on the right side of this and not sending IC any money though.
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We've liberated France.
Twice.
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I don't see any hate coming from France towards the US.
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I guess as Americans we have played part of savior so many times in the world in just my lifetime and still get the "Fuck Americans" attitude from pious little university fucks raised on an ultra-liberal curriculum or people conditioned to simply hate America no matter what... that my give-a-shit-o-meter is hard to crank up to the "Care" setting about third world shitholes anymore.
Call me jaded.
Yeah. Playing the part of savior... Putting up trade barriers, subsidizing internal markets (so foreign goods can't compete), practicing mercantilism. Meddling in internal affairs of other nations, covertly overthrowing democratically elected governments and propping up dictators for strategic interests. Arming the Taliban, radicalizing some Muslims, aiding terrorist groups. Perhaps most recently and so blatantly: picking up innocent civilians in random countries and putting them in cages where they are tortured, and no court hearings, no lawyers, no trials. It's realpolitik. No morals, just Machiavellian.
Case in point: During the Arab spring, the US was all over helping Libyan rebels and Egyptian rebels. But when it came to Bahrain.. crickets. Bahrain is a Sunni power, and the rebels were Shiite. The government of Bahrain just happens to be backed by Saudi Arabia - one of the cruelest of all dictatorships on Earth (they're MUCH worse than Iran). And Saudi Arabia just so happen to have the largest oil reserves in the world and be a close friend of the US. This is how stuff works.
But then, stuff has to be sold to the public. You're doing something to help people. And maybe, sometimes the policies have actually tried that, but no matter the rationalization, this stuff has NOT made the US come off as the good guys to be frank. People don't have irrational reasons for their hate. Why would they care about a country on the other side of the world if it weren't for something real.
Luckily you're on the right side of this and not sending IC any money though.
Wow... :eek Try these on for size then, maybe you wont be so grossly un-informed afterwards....
https://www.usaid.gov/locations/missiondirectory.html (https://www.usaid.gov/locations/missiondirectory.html) < Every one of these locations has a humanitarian USAID mission going on RIGHT now...
https://www.usaid.gov/missions/ (https://www.usaid.gov/missions/) < For the missions in the first link that have a website, here are those for your perusal.
This is just humanitarian aid, this doesnt include military assistance missions. Oh and ask yourself how ALL of this is paid for? Yeah by United States of America TAXPAYERS... ME. So if you're pissed because your cause or country didn't get its FAIR SHARE of the HUNDEREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in American Taxpayer money (My money), well... sucks for you.
Personally I am just tired of the ingratitude I see on the news and all the anti-American mouth diarrhea I read on internet bulletin boards... <cough>
I mean has the U.S. cornered the market on helping other countries and people? No of course not, but then again I don't see the hate spread to the other countries who are helping others. You have to understand it's hard to feel charitable when you are being bled dry in taxes, your own countrymen are unable to find work, are losing thier homes and more and more jobs that once were held by your countrymen are ferreted to overseas markets where labor is cheap. This is strictly from an economic standpoint. From a political and military standpoint, has the U.S. meddled in the affairs of other countries? Sure they have... Are we the only ones that have done it? Hell no. So spread the hate around a little and give us a break for once, M'kay? You know we don't just meddle for fun, it's usually done with the intent to help stabilize a region. Since you are not giving me specifics I can't speak to them so I give you a generality in return. Touche.
<disclaimer>I fully respect anyone's right to have an opinion as long as they respect my right to disagree with their opinion.</disclaimer>
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u mad brah?
All I did was ask a question. I'm definitely not in IC's jock but am always curious as to what alternatives/organizations there are out there. There's nothing wrong with helping...as long as it's helping, and not just thinking about helping.
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https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/03/kony-2012-activist-filmmaker-arrested/
That's embrassing. I start to question this campain. The defensive of Invisible Children CEO's for that matter is rather funny.
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https://www.newuniversity.org/2012/03/opinion/invisible-childrens-scam/
Granted, it's an opinion article that doesn't cite its sources...
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Wow... :eek Try these on for size then, maybe you wont be so grossly un-informed afterwards....
https://www.usaid.gov/locations/missiondirectory.html (https://www.usaid.gov/locations/missiondirectory.html) < Every one of these locations has a humanitarian USAID mission going on RIGHT now...
https://www.usaid.gov/missions/ (https://www.usaid.gov/missions/) < For the missions in the first link that have a website, here are those for your perusal.
This is just humanitarian aid, this doesnt include military assistance missions.
Yup. There's lots of foreign aid. A lot of it goes to the aid of rulers in poor countries, who acquire more wealth and continue to destroy people's property. What poor countries need is not stolen money, they need property rights. That is not to say that some of the money goes to helping people, but I don't think it has a net benefit. The money is MUCH better spent going to a private charity in my opinion (where money is given voluntarily too, not acquired through force).
Oh and ask yourself how ALL of this is paid for? Yeah by United States of America TAXPAYERS... ME. So if you're pissed because your cause or country didn't get its FAIR SHARE of the HUNDEREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in American Taxpayer money (My money), well... sucks for you.
Personally I am just tired of the ingratitude I see on the news and all the anti-American mouth diarrhea I read on internet bulletin boards... <cough>
Yes. Agree to disagree. And I mean that quite literally. I don't endorse any system that takes, by the threat of force, someone's money for uses they do not approve of. And well, I'm not asking for your money. Why would I be upset about that? Sweden is a good nation to live in, one of the top 25 or so economically free nations there are - which is the reason we've been doing reasonably well.
As for the "anti-American mouth diarrhea"... I'll get to that later
I mean has the U.S. cornered the market on helping other countries and people? No of course not, but then again I don't see the
hate spread to the other countries who are helping others.
The Brits get their fair share of hate. The reason the US is receiving so much hate in comparison is because the US has been the most pro-active in covert actions to get rid of dictators, some democratically elected (Guatemala, Iran, Chile, Brazil), and the US has been fighting a lot of proxy wars. Yes, there was a bigger enemy in the Soviet Union - but the human cost in Latin America for instance has been horrendous. That's why a lot of Latin Americans started to HATE the US, and there's a lot of socialistic tendencies too - much because of the hate towards everything the US stands for (which is perceived to be capitalism).
You see, you seem to claim that the US always helps people. How is dropping bombs on innocent civilians helpful? Drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan? Is it just possible that the phenomenon known as blowback, that these civilians get radicalized and the opposition is even stronger as a result, a real phenomenon?
That is not to say that SOME interventions haven't been helpful. El Salvador springs to mind, where the end result was good.
You have to understand it's hard to feel charitable when you are being bled dry in taxes, your own countrymen are unable to find work, are losing thier homes and more and more jobs that once were held by your countrymen are ferreted to overseas markets where labor is cheap. This is strictly from an economic standpoint.
I fully understand.
From a political and military standpoint, has the U.S. meddled in the affairs of other countries? Sure they have... Are we the only ones that have done it? Hell no. So spread the hate around a little and give us a break for once, M'kay?
China does it so much better for instance. They don't take over a country militarily, they do it economically. They BUY resources and make deals - like businessmen. True Machiavellian style governance, but done so much more elegantly than the US does it with bombs and bullets.
You know we don't just meddle for fun, it's usually done with the intent to help stabilize a region. Since you are not giving me specifics I can't speak to them so I give you a generality in return. Touche.
That's how it is sold to the public. Iraq was pretty stable during Saddam, what about now? But of course, they had WMD's, didn't they.
And I gave you at least one specific too earlier, about Bahrain. You can go back and read that one. Why did they not try to aid the rebellion in Bahrain, while aiding the rebellion in Libya and Egypt?
And now is a perfect time to explain Iran in 1953. Mossadegh had come to power democratically, but he wanted to kick out the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (known as BP today) and the parliament voted to nationalize the oil fields they were in possession of (pretty much a governmental land grab). The Brits weren't too happy, so they aligned themselves with the US and Truman to overthrow Mossadegh. Kermit Roosevelt led the project, and they succeeded with the coup. They reinstalled the Shah, who was a brutal and violent dictator. But this secured new oil deals for the AIOC. The backlash came in 1979 - the coup against the Shah and the exile of the Shah. (Read more here about Iran (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat))
Was this done to stabilize the region? I hardly think so. Wars, conflicts and covert actions almost always happen for geopolitical reasons.
<disclaimer>I fully respect anyone's right to have an opinion as long as they respect my right to disagree with their opinion.</disclaimer>
Yes. Agree to disagree. And quite literally, I don't want any use of violence being used against you (taking your money involuntarily, for any purpose).
What you failed to address even once though is the free trade argument. That's how you help developing nations. Letting their products compete. That's why for instance the European Union is quite evil. Subsidizing local farmers while putting up trade barriers to African nations. The US does this too. There are probably people within the system that think it's a fantastic idea and it's helpful - but I think the EXACT opposite.
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Fair enough.
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Yea fuck this White Savior Industrial Complex scheme.
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I want to see his son's response when the police show him pictures of his daddy masturbating in public.
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Look, I think that whole mental breakdown thing is just ridiculous as anybody, but that was a silly thing to say.
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Anyone who's laughing at the guy for having a mental breakdown, obviously has no idea what it's like to be famous, well known, and get a crap-load of attention paid to you. Shit like this is not rare - fucking look at celebrities. Remember bald Britney throwing chairs and attacking a car, or whatever the fuck that was? Even knowing something might go viral doesn't prepare you for the kind of celebrity that will hit you.
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Anyone who's laughing at the guy for having a mental breakdown, obviously has no idea what it's like to be famous, well known, and get a crap-load of attention paid to you. Shit like this is not rare - fucking look at celebrities. Remember bald Britney throwing chairs and attacking a car, or whatever the fuck that was? Even knowing something might go viral doesn't prepare you for the kind of celebrity that will hit you.
IMO anyone with any common sense would have mentally prepared for this.
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He wanted it to go viral. WANTED
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He wanted it to go viral. WANTED
This. He made it for the purpose of going viral, and should have realized that not everyone on the planet will support his cause, and not everyone on the planet will present their opinion in a nice, sprinkle-coated fashion.
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Anyone who's laughing at the guy for having a mental breakdown, obviously has no idea what it's like to be famous, well known, and get a crap-load of attention paid to you. Shit like this is not rare - fucking look at celebrities. Remember bald Britney throwing chairs and attacking a car, or whatever the fuck that was? Even knowing something might go viral doesn't prepare you for the kind of celebrity that will hit you.
IMO anyone with any common sense would have mentally prepared for this.
IMO, you can't prepare for it.
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Yup. But what, is that an excuse for his behavior?
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Anyone who's laughing at the guy for having a mental breakdown, obviously has no idea what it's like to be famous, well known, and get a crap-load of attention paid to you. Shit like this is not rare - fucking look at celebrities. Remember bald Britney throwing chairs and attacking a car, or whatever the fuck that was? Even knowing something might go viral doesn't prepare you for the kind of celebrity that will hit you.
IMO anyone with any common sense would have mentally prepared for this.
IMO, you can't prepare for it.
Sure you can, with a little common sense that not everyone in the world will love what you do.
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I like how you assume that you know the exact cause of his breakdown.
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Well let's see. In here: https://www.torontosun.com/2012/03/16/kony-mastermind-arrested-for-public-masturbation we see:
Russell's wife, Danica, released a statement late Friday saying the negative reaction to the film impacted her husband greatly.
"While that attention was great for raising awareness about Joseph Kony, it also brought a lot of attention to Jason — and, because of how personal the film is, many of the attacks against it were also very personal, and Jason took them very hard," Danica said in the statement
Sounds like I'm at least partly right. :P
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Anyone who's laughing at the guy for having a mental breakdown, obviously has no idea what it's like to be famous, well known, and get a crap-load of attention paid to you. Shit like this is not rare - fucking look at celebrities. Remember bald Britney throwing chairs and attacking a car, or whatever the fuck that was? Even knowing something might go viral doesn't prepare you for the kind of celebrity that will hit you.
IMO anyone with any common sense would have mentally prepared for this.
IMO, you can't prepare for it.
Sure you can, with a little common sense that not everyone in the world will love what you do.
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There's expecting critique of your work, and then there's expecting fame and critique of you as a person - on a very fundamental level. And then there's this happening overnight.