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General => Archive => Political and Religious => Topic started by: William Wallace on December 20, 2011, 09:30:53 AM
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What else is there to say? (https://www.policymic.com/articles/2951/war-on-christmas-doesn-t-exist/dashboard_featured)
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War is people fighting. Whether or not the fight carries much meaning is irrelevant.
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Most wars on intangible things are bullshit.
Christmas
Drugs
Terrorism
lol
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Or "Obama's War on Religion".
War is a word used so carelessly in the US. War on Crime, War on Poverty etc also.
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We should start a war on war.
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We should start a war on war.
:clap:
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Or "Obama's War on Religion".
How could I forget this gem?!
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We should start a war on war.
:clap:
I 2nd that!
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Most wars on intangible things are bullshit.
Christmas
Drugs
Terrorism
lol
I came in here to post something pretty similar to this.
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I declare war on stress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmN_tisl9M
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And there is of course my personal favorite, the War on Poverty.
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And there is of course my personal favorite, the War on Poverty.
Already in the thread, but needed some reiteration. It's a totally stupid idea.
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Whoops, didn't see that, sorry.
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That was a very good article, WW. Good stuff.
rumborak
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That was a very good article, WW. Good stuff.
rumborak
Thanks.
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Anecdote time: I sent this article to some of my crusty, conservative family and they flipped. I, apparently, am the product of our socialized, Godless, refuse-to-bow-to St. Reagan school system. Me. Of all people.
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While I don't really care that much on the subject matter I do have to wonder what did cause the sudden shift to calling stuff "holiday" instead of "Christmas". I would assume it's to appease the very small percent that have such a stick up their ass if everything wasn't all inclusive they'd throw a fit but I could be wrong. I can agree that the actual "war" part is horribly overblown but the sudden switch "everything needs to be inclusive" has always seemed cowardly to me.
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Before I was old enough to know about "the war on Christmas," I always assumed "holidays" meant Christmas and the New Year's celebrations -- and Hanukkah and the like could be included too because, hey, why not?
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That's what it means in German for sure. We alternately say "Frohe Weihnachten" (happy Christmas) and "Frohe Feiertage" (happy holidays). In the latter case it means Christmas and New Years together.
Only, in Germany nobody throws a hissy fit about it.
rumborak
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While I don't really care that much on the subject matter I do have to wonder what did cause the sudden shift to calling stuff "holiday" instead of "Christmas". I would assume it's to appease the very small percent that have such a stick up their ass if everything wasn't all inclusive they'd throw a fit but I could be wrong. I can agree that the actual "war" part is horribly overblown but the sudden switch "everything needs to be inclusive" has always seemed cowardly to me.
I was inclined to agree a few years ago, but now I tend not to care about shit that doesn't matter. I almost never eat mashed potatoes or pecan pie, so on Christmas I'm going to do that and not care what Best Buy calls their major sale.
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That's what it means in German for sure. We alternately say "Frohe Weihnachten" (happy Christmas) and "Frohe Feiertage" (happy holidays). In the latter case it means Christmas and New Years together.
Only, in Germany nobody throws a hissy fit about it.
rumborak
Ich will. :P
I say what I want to say in regards to Christmas. Most Christians know what it means, who why turn your undies into a thong over it?
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I talked to an Arab gentleman on the phone the other day, and at the end of the conversation he said Merry Christmas. I think this war is overblown.
Frankly, public schools SHOULD have winter breaks instead of Christmas breaks. And there is nothing wrong with Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
The only thing I don't like (but I'm not going to start a war over it) is calling a Christmas tree a Holiday tree. I'm all for inclusiveness, but I didn't realize that decorating a tree was part of the tradition for either Kwanzaa or Hanukah. Oh wait, it's only a tradition for Christmas. OK then, it's a Christmas tree.
But I digress.
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I agree, screw the Holiday Tree. If you don't like it, get a Festivus pole.
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I declare war on stress:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmN_tisl9M
Gadough likes this. :tup
Also, I agree with this:
Most wars on intangible things are bullshit.
Christmas
Drugs
Terrorism
lol
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The whole war on xmas thing doesn't really matter to me much, and the only people I ever see "enforcing" it are companies that have employees dealing with the public, by telling them to wish customers "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"
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A pretty good article on this topic:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16273917
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
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I agree, screw the Holiday Tree. If you don't like it, get a Festivus pole.
I suggest we call it Yggdrasil.
rumborak
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
Christmas was never supposed to be about Jesus to begin with.
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
Christmas was never supposed to be about Jesus to begin with.
What do you mean
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
Christmas was never supposed to be about Jesus to begin with.
What do you mean
I mean Jesus never said to celebrate his birth. Neither did any of his disciples. It does not appear to have really entered the consciousness of Christians to do so as late as the third century, and it does not appear to have been celebrated until sometime between the late third and fourth centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#History
As a result, many Christians do not celebrate it as having anything to do with Christ, but merely recognized it as a fun family holiday.
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Or, as in America, a commercial holiday.
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
Christmas was never supposed to be about Jesus to begin with.
What do you mean
I mean Jesus never said to celebrate his birth. Neither did any of his disciples. It does not appear to have really entered the consciousness of Christians to do so as late as the third century, and it does not appear to have been celebrated until sometime between the late third and fourth centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#History
As a result, many Christians do not celebrate it as having anything to do with Christ, but merely recognized it as a fun family holiday.
That's very interesting
thanks Bosk1
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Theirs no point to charades anymore. This is war, this is war
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https://www.prosebeforehos.com/political-ironing/12/29/how-bill-oreilly-covered-wars-in-december-2011/ (https://www.prosebeforehos.com/political-ironing/12/29/how-bill-oreilly-covered-wars-in-december-2011/)
(https://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bill-oreillys-2011-war-coverage.png)
O’Reilly’s focus on the non-existent “War on Christmas” apparently comes at the expense of coverage of the actual wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Over the course of December, O’Reilly spent roughly 42 minutes covering the “War on Christmas” and approximately 13 and a half minutes covering the Iraq and Afghanistan wars…
The longest segment counted towards O’Reilly’s actual war coverage was a report on employees at a defense contractor that manufactures equipment for troops overseas being caught smoking pot and drinking alcohol on their lunch break.
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The joke is Christmas is not even about Jesus anymore anyway. :rollin
Christmas was never supposed to be about Jesus to begin with.
What do you mean
I mean Jesus never said to celebrate his birth. Neither did any of his disciples. It does not appear to have really entered the consciousness of Christians to do so as late as the third century, and it does not appear to have been celebrated until sometime between the late third and fourth centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas#History
As a result, many Christians do not celebrate it as having anything to do with Christ, but merely recognized it as a fun family holiday.
True, but the idea of Christmas is supposed to be a religious reflection on what the Incarnation meant to mankind and there is a LOT of great stuff written about that. The Incarnation is seen as God's gift to Man, a gift that was not necessary and certainly doesn't add to God nor was Man worthy of the gift. The idea to commemorate this Incarnation, this birth of Christ goes right to the heart of Christianity in general.