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General => Archive => Dream Theater-related => Topic started by: WhatsAnOwlVent on November 12, 2011, 12:50:37 PM
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Check It Out...
https://www.bigmusicgeek.com/charliedominici.html
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I don't know how to react to this. I don't know whether to laugh or facepalm.
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I don't know how to react to this. I don't know whether to laugh or facepalm.
To be fair, he was quite nice during the course of the interview. He was a bit 'full of himself', but still quite nice.
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"Being in Dream Theater is the only reason im remotely known"
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"Being in Dream Theater is the only reason im remotely known"
Sad but true. It's unlikely that anyone (within the US, at least) would remember/recognize him from his solo work or his pre-Dream Theater efforts.
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Being in Dream Theater is also the only reason he's doing prog metal right now. Do I remember reading somewhere that he just sang pop before DT?
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I don't know, I'm not really surprised. I've always thought he didn't really enjoy his time in the band, and he stated a number of times that all of the vocals were out of his range and that it was a problem.
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"Being in Dream Theater is the only reason im remotely known"
Sad but true.
Definitely true, but why is it sad?
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"Being in Dream Theater is the only reason im remotely known"
Sad but true.
Definitely true, but why is it sad?
I only say it's 'sad' because he's poured everything he's had (both artistically and financially) into his three solo efforts and they've gone virtually unnoticed.
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Definitely true, but why is it sad?
I'd say it's a little sad because he seems to consider being in DT a not-entirely-positive experience. If everyone knew me for something I didn't like doing it wouldn't sit too well with me personally.
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I only say it's 'sad' because he's poured everything he's had (both artistically and financially) into his three solo efforts and they've gone virtually unnoticed.
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Well, they're not all that good.
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I thought it was going to be an interview with Dominci bashing Dream Theater but it's nothing like that. Nice sensationlist thread title though.
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I thought it was going to be an interview with Dominci bashing Dream Theater but it's nothing like that. Nice sensationlist thread title though.
I felt it was the most interesting quote I could lead with.
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“I’d love to be able to say that I wrote all of those lead guitar, drum and keyboard parts, wrote all the charts and then put them in front of the guys, but unfortunately, I can’t say that. It was a group effort. I basically knew how I wanted the story to go.
"And I walked with the latest DT CD and told them, 'that's what I want it to sound like'"
rumborak
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This thread stinks, sorry. Why did you post a single line from the interview in an effort to create controversy when there was none to begin with? I read through that interview and found myself completely understanding exactly where he's coming from. Next time, don't do this. It's dishonest.
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This thread stinks, sorry. Why did you post a single line from the interview in an effort to create controversy when there was none to begin with? I read through that interview and found myself completely understanding exactly where he's coming from. Next time, don't do this. It's dishonest.
This.
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It's also really old. O3 came out a looong time ago.
rumborak
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Hey at least Dominici tell it like it is. Seems like a cool guy.
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Yeah, I can see exactly why it would feel a bit slave driving. It's hard singing outside your comfortable range. It would be very demanding and he might have felt a bit like JLB when his vocal folds ruptured. JLB didn't know if he could hit the notes needed every night. I'd imagine Charlie didn't either.
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He describes singing for DT as "working for a corporation...I was a hired hand."
This bothers me, and makes me believe that it's not the guys in DT that are control freaks. It's him. He didn't want a band to be prepared without him it sounds like to me. From everything I've heard of the current lineup being in DT is serious business, in that they are all very serious about the music and always trying to improve. I'm sure they knew a bit of the business side of the music industry when they were Majesty. They were never out to "just have fun" with the music, they were out to make it as a band. Anyone they got to join (I would think) should feel the same. Now, the band is a family. And having someone audition to join a family is a serious proposition, not to be taken lightly.
Then there's "I'd love to say that I wrote all the music, all the charts, and put it in front of the guys, but it was a group effort." When referring to his own work.
So he wants to be in control? He wants complete autonomy in the band? Sounds to me like he wants to be another Arjen A. Lucassen.
I respect him for making music and doing what he loves, but he shouldn't bite the hand that feeds. Seems to me, as an earlier post said, he wouldn't be doing prog at all; he wouldn't be where he is today without DT.
Sad that he thinks so little of a band that gave him so much.
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I for one never understood what Dominici was hoping to get by naming the band after himself. I'd say it was a cash-grap, but I'm not sure what kind of draw his name actually has. Considering his reputation as being "the bad singer form the first album"* I'd imagine the name "Dominici" would discourage just as many album sales as it encouraged, if not more. Heck, even JLB was not allowed to release a solo album under his name until 2005, simply because the name-recognition was not there. So what did Charlie hope he'd accomplish?
*And I disagree, btw. I think WDADU vocals are fine. Just being honest here...
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What do you mean JLB wasn't allowed to release a solo album under his name?
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What do you mean JLB wasn't allowed to release a solo album under his name?
The label did not want the album/band to be called James Labrie; therefore Mulmuzzler.
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Yup.
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oh
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It's also really old. O3 came out a looong time ago.
rumborak
Didn't it come out in 2005??? That's hardly a long time ago IMHO ;)
Anyway, the title is misleading. It makes it seem like he's bashing DT when he really isn't.
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It's also really old. O3 came out a looong time ago.
rumborak
Didn't it come out in 2005??? That's hardly a long time ago IMHO ;)
Anyway, the title is misleading. It makes it seem like he's bashing DT when he really isn't.
6 nearly 7 years is enough.
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O3 isn't that old. I remember Charlie and I playfighting on his forum shortly after its release, so it had to be 2008 or 2009.
Edit: Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Dominici#With_Dominici
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O3 isn't that old. I remember Charlie and I playfighting on his forum shortly after its release, so it had to be 2008 or 2009.
Edit: Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Dominici#With_Dominici
O3 part 1 is 2005, 2 is 2007 and 3 is 2008.
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Whoops. I was think O3 was the third part (like O1 would be the first, O2 would be the second). I forgot that O3 was the name of the entire concept.
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O3 isn't that old. I remember Charlie and I playfighting on his forum shortly after its release, so it had to be 2008 or 2009.
Edit: Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Dominici#With_Dominici
That was play?
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derp
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I don't know how to react to this. I don't know whether to laugh or facepalm.
This.
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Am I the only one who just had his eyes killed by that site?
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Interesting interview. I had never read it, and I've never heard any of Dominic's stuff either. I gotta say tho, Charlie is quite long-winded and repetitive in his answers. But I guess that's better than people being brief and tight-lipped.
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Am I the only one who just had his eyes killed by that site?
Nope, me too. White text on black background is an awful colour contrast for a website. I now have the webpage burned onto my retinas. :|
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Heeeeyy...c'mon guys..isn't the "Charlie bashing" really the thing that is getting old? lol
If you don't like my voice r my work that's fine. Please don't attack me personally when you don't really know me at all.
I am not a control freak, my comment about wishing I could say I wrote charts for my band was "tongue in cheek". If you want to know what I am really like a a person, if it matters that much to you that you want to create an image of me for others to believe, then why don't you talk to someone that actually knows me, instead of someone who has not accomplished much more in life than bashing others on web forums. Others that have done more in their lives than the basher ever will.
Really getting old.
As for my trilogy being "unnoticed" wouldn't that be an oxy moron? after all, YOU are all still talking about it. =)
To those of you that show the insight to defend me, thanks but it's not necessary, after all the internet has made it so that any 10 yr old with a keyboard and mouse can be a music and art crirtic! Even those who might only be mentally 10 yrs old.. lol knock yourself out, Rumborak!
Dream theater are my family and will ALWAYS be my brothers. I have no intention of throwing any bad light on them neither during my time in the band or now and in the future.
My comments were simply the truth.
It was hard for me to bring to the band every night what they needed, mainly because my life at the time was in shambles. I had a drug problem,alcohol problem, my GF left me and I was physically and spiritually weak.
Actually I think I did pretty well, considering all of of that. For the record I am proud of my time with DT, difficult or not.
Finally let me say that unlike many other music artists that are in the public eye, I actually care about what people are saying about me. This is mainly because of the type of person I am. I'm compassionate and caring.Mainly to animals for reasons that become even more painfully obvious when I read shit like this. I love my fans. I love interacting with them personally.I go out of my way to talk to them,answer their emails, even had a few sleep on my couch when they were down and out.
So if it gives you pleasure to bash me, knock yourself out. Just don't call me when you need a friend....Well, ok you can call me but I will probably give you a scolding along with the help! =)
Peace- and please at least TRY to enjoy what I've recorded, after all it was created for you. :metal
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By the way, I will be attending the DT show in San Diego Dec 1st if anyone wants to get any WDADU or DOMINICI stuff autographed! =) :metal
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By the way, I will be attending the DT show in San Diego Dec 1st if anyone wants to get any WDADU or DOMINICI stuff autographed! =) :metal
I'd have you sign my copy of '03' if the show weren't so far away.
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Charlie, I can't believe that you'd let this get under your skin. Get over it! You're the one that said "slave gig" and that any singer in the band would just be a hired gun. I'm sure James would disagree. Guys are going to respond to that type of talk. Sour grapes taste bad, I'd avoid them. Besides they make your face look puckered. :D :chill
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Charlie I can bash you and you'll still help me if I need something like a new battery while I'm stranded on the highway or $6 to get lunch next Sunday?
<3 you Charlie
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Charlie --
I just admire the fact that you pretty much gave up whatever you had to follow your muse and you just tell it like it is (and have since you left).
That's not meant to defend you or bash you. I admire those qualities in anyone.
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Some people in this thread are totally immature. First of all, when Charlie was in the band, it MIGHT have been a, "slave gig." Maybe when LaBrie got in the band, they let him have more control or matured as people (the other guys in DT, I mean). But, maybe it WAS a slave gig. Charlie's entire point - the important part of the whole damn interview - was that it was DT's first "real" experience and he had already been around the block and both parties realized that IT WAS NOT WORKING. THAT is the important part. So, you people want to take dumb little phrases and make controversy out of them..... seriously, shut up. It's annoying.
And, this is the first time I've ever defended Charlie Dominici. I don't know him, he might be a complete asshole for all I know. But, there was NOTHING wrong with that interview and I think people need to stop taking it out of context. It's almost like people get off at taking shots at him because, "he's not in DT anymore and they can" or something. At least the guy was ON a DT album. What DT albums have you guys been on?
Oh, that's right - NONE! :lol
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My copy of O3 Part 1 is signed by him with a personal message, so he'll always be awesome in my book. :metal
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At least the guy was ON a DT album. What DT albums have you guys been on?
Oh, that's right - NONE! :lol
As a matter of fact, I made platform shoes out of my DT discography. So, sorry to disappoint you, but I'm on every single DT album.
rumborak
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How come Sherinian is the only ex-member who never says anything negative about critical fans?
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KM did?
rumborak
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No he just pretends we don't exist.
Can't believe I forgot about him though :facepalm:
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I don't know if you're still reading this Charlie, but I love your DOMINICI stuff. :metal
Best of luck to you.
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How come Sherinian is the only ex-member who never says anything negative about critical fans?
i'll go out on a limb here and say i never thought DS took DT as seriously as the other guys...
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Hey, I was having a shitty day yesterday..sorry lol. Actually I had a shitty weekend. My motorcycle was in parts in my garage after I had spent 4 hours pushing it around and up hills trying to pop the clutch. Finally I fixed the problem but it left me worn out and frustrated. So when I got this google alert that you guys were talking about me and I guess I kinda got pissed. OK. Here's some real chatter. First of thanks, for some of these replies, some are very insightful (snake eyes) and yes I would help you, Jamesman even tho you got into it with me in the forum (dominici) about how blasphemous my trilogy ending was (btw..the idea of aliens being the creators of man is not anti-god it just suggests that god is a lot older and much more far reaching than most people think. IE: He may have created aliens too).Or maaaaaybe...the whole thing was a staged hoax by the gov't using reverse engineered alien technology to create fear in the people and have excuse to wipe out the population leaving only the elite to enjoy the spoils...hmmmm. I've seen many comments from people about a lot of things regarding my trilogy sounding like we copied DT. Funny I never knew you could "copy" a sound that you were a part of creating in the first place. That said, I found it a compliment,actually, that out 30 songs, only one (the calling ) was even remotely similar to a DT song. When I read this comment I must tell you I personally had not idea what "honor thy father" even sounded like. I wasn't really listening to entire DT albums back then,just had a few favorites on the TOT and that song was not one of them. Same is true for my guys in my band. When I did a side by side comparison, I noticed a similarity. It was in the same key(D) and had a syncopated intro like HTF but the riffs,verses,chorus,solos, lyrics,etc were all totally different. Hmmm
more chatter: Anyone is welcome to like or not like my work..after all that's why they make vanilla AND chocolate, right? As for the trilogy going relatively unnoticed, nothing could please me more. It's a proof positive indication that we made an original statement in the music world that was and still is out of the realm of commonly accepted artistic works.
If I wanted to be successful more than I wanted to create art, I would have made a more commercial sounding record with 3 minutes songs about love and heartbreak.
Don't be afraid to criticize me I'm not really all that sensitive usually, just had a really bad day!
I leave you with my 2 favorite qutes:
"Never moon a werewolf" and " Don't cook bacon naked"
Finally, yes I wasn't really into prog until Majesty, I don't know anyone in prog that was "born" with a prog spoon in their mouth either. Holy prog,Batman.., Portnoy used to play Beatles songs before Rush and Genesis came out! =)
Bye! :metal
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Holy shitty website layout batman
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1. This thread title is completely misleading and is going to be changed.
2. Charlie's O3 work is awesome and anyone who simply dismisses it is without hearing it is doing themselves a disservice. (A slightly less objective point than #1)
3. I actually found many parts of the interview relating to DT to be pretty informative.
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Man I love it when the actual person shows up to straighten things out :rollin Good on ya, Charlie.
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Charlie :metal
Dream Theater fans: Always sensationalising every aspect of interviews and taking phrases out of context. Who cares? Just enjoy the music :tup
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BTW, why is Hungary a less-than-desirable location? From what I know it's a pretty cool place.
rumborak
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lol