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Title: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 03, 2009, 08:29:18 AM
Anathema is one of my favourite bands, so I thought I'd make a topic. They aren't really well know in the US, which is a shame. They have a few really solid albums, but unfortunately their last album was a few years ago (not including Hindsight, which is acoustic renditions of old songs).

Last.fm tags them as atmospheric rock with a few progressive influences. Their style has changed alot, the first few albums were death/doom metal but their last few albums are atmospheric/progressive. I recommend all of you to listen to Judgement and Alternative 4, two of my favourite albums. But I like everything they made after (and including) Eternity.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dunns Beard on July 03, 2009, 08:45:22 AM
Anathema are a great band. I wish they'd play a few more of their older songs when touring, but they regularly tour with PT so I guess they think their fans might not like the doom metal. Looking forward to their next album whenever it comes out. A Natural Disaster is definitely an album that all should check out with the only bad track being the title one IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 03, 2009, 08:51:34 AM
I saw them live a few times (Both Headlining and supporting PT) and they are a great live band. In one of the concerts a guitar broke. While they were trying to fix it, the rest of the band made jokes and started playing some funny tunes - great experience.

I dislike the title track of A Natural Disaster as well. I find that Lee Douglas doesn't add alot to the band and I was glad she wasn't there last time I saw them live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jezstyle on July 03, 2009, 10:16:38 AM
They're a great band, judging from the Were You There? dvd (a bargain at just AUS$10!)

I'll have to check out their other releases really soon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on July 04, 2009, 01:09:42 PM
only 3 replies? I'm disappointed DTF.

Saw them supporting PT, was blown away.

While I'm more attracted to alternative 4 era, pulled under at 2000 metres a second is the best song I've ever heard to blast while driving along  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on July 04, 2009, 01:34:11 PM
Everyone knows that Allmusic are reliable right?

"Three years ago, Liverpool's former power metal act Anathema issu" WAIT WHAT power metal  ???
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on July 04, 2009, 03:18:30 PM
Everyone knows that Allmusic are reliable right?

"Three years ago, Liverpool's former power metal act Anathema issu" WAIT WHAT power metal  ???

 :lol


Anathema is a fantastic band that definitely deserve more fans than they have. I remember I heard a version of the song Sleepless that was done by Cradle of Filth, and I thought it was terrible. :lol  Lucky for me, the band that wrote the song ended up easily being in my top 5 bands EVAR.

tl;dr: Anathema rulez, COF sux
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 04, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
Hell yea, Anathema rules. I never see them mentioned on DTF and seeing as it is probably my second or thirf favorite band - I had to make a topic about them.

I bugged Nick for weeks to play some during his show, he really likes it now as well :).

They are a great live band. I probably was one of the only ones that preferred Anathema to PT at those shows though :p. I also saw them headlining with Demians as support - pretty awesome. They have an open policy on bootlegs, there is some pretty cool stuff on them. Like unreleased songs and some cool cover songs (like hurt by NIN or comfortably numb by PF)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on July 05, 2009, 10:15:22 PM
Anathema is like a Turkish band, every year they come and give concert; at least 5 concert each year  :lol

I guess; I went their shows 12 times. Everytime they make me their real fun!

I am a real of Judgement. Great solid album. No song in it not worth to listen. Masterpiece  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 06, 2009, 02:07:18 PM
I really love Anathema as well, they're in my top5 bands at least. :)
I'd say all their albums after Eternity are flawless, with my favorite being Judgement.
The Silent Enigma is a masterpiece as well, and the only 2 albums i'm not really hooked on is Eternity and their first album, which i just forgot the name of. :P
I guess Eternity will get me hooked, but their first albums feels really "meh", seeing as Vinny doesn't sing on it.
Overall my favorite tracks would be something like:
1. Regret
2. Emotional Winter
3. Forgotten Hopes
4. Flying
5. Temporary Peace

But then again, i haven't heard the new tracks... :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on July 06, 2009, 02:37:18 PM
Anathema are great indeed. Especially the albums that aren't death/doom. Some really emotional, atmospheric and depressive stuff on there.
I went to an acoustic gig Danny did a few months ago and before that I saw Duncan with Mick so I saw a fair share of Anathema songs live. They sound astonishing, even stripped down to just a guitar and vocals, or two guitars.
Their new album comes out later this year hopefully, October/November I think. Danny did a rough demo acoustic version of one of the songs and it was really great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on July 06, 2009, 03:53:36 PM
I'm really excited about the new album. Especially since SW's gonna be producing it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 06, 2009, 04:12:56 PM
They have been saying the album "is almost finished" for 3 years now. I don't believe it is actually coming until I have it in my hands :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 07, 2009, 01:48:22 AM
I'd love an album with some of the atmosphere from The Silent Enigma tbh.
The album doesn't need to be doomy, but i would love if Anathema could compose some longer stuff, kinda like Regret (which is 8 minutes long) :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 3MinuteWarning on July 09, 2009, 04:21:30 PM
...some cool cover songs (like hurt by NIN or comfortably numb by PF)

I saw them play Comfortably Numb at the Gods of Metal festival in 2007 then saw them play Hurt at the Download Festival in Donington the following weekend.  I've never had goosebumps like that at a show before.

I think my favourite album is A Fine Day To Exit.  Fantastic band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 09, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
...some cool cover songs (like hurt by NIN or comfortably numb by PF)

I saw them play Comfortably Numb at the Gods of Metal festival in 2007 then saw them play Hurt at the Download Festival in Donington the following weekend.  I've never had goosebumps like that at a show before.

I think my favourite album is A Fine Day To Exit.  Fantastic band.
Awesome! I haven't heard any cover songs live yet :/. They were going to play hindsight once, but they ran out of time. They let us choose between Fragile Dreams and Hindsight, and me and my friends (we were at the front) all yelled Fragile Dreams so that is what they did. Hindsight is a pretty cool song though, judging from the bootleg versions.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 15, 2009, 10:57:22 AM
*kick*

I'm listening to Hindsight for the second time today (listened to it many times before though), and I just want to comment that there are some beautiful versions on here. Some don't really work (Fragile Dreams for instance), but songs like One Last Goodbye, Temporary Peace and my personal favorite, Are You There? are awesome acoustic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on July 15, 2009, 11:07:46 AM
*kick*

I'm listening to Hindsight for the second time today (listened to it many times before though), and I just want to comment that there are some beautiful versions on here. Some don't really work (Fragile Dreams for instance), but songs like One Last Goodbye, Temporary Peace and my personal favorite, Are You There? are awesome acoustic.

That song sounds great on Judgement, but so much better on Hindsight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 15, 2009, 11:10:16 AM
*kick*

I'm listening to Hindsight for the second time today (listened to it many times before though), and I just want to comment that there are some beautiful versions on here. Some don't really work (Fragile Dreams for instance), but songs like One Last Goodbye, Temporary Peace and my personal favorite, Are You There? are awesome acoustic.

That song sounds great on Judgement, but so much better on Hindsight.
Yea, it's amazing. It's a really good song that gives me chills everytime I listen to it. It's even better live, the whole crowd just fell silent while it was played. And even though they played it for the billionth time, it was still full of emotion.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 18, 2009, 06:03:36 AM
Update:

15th of November has been revealed as release date for "Horizons"/ "we're here because we're here" (on twitter and on a forum). There is nothing on the official site though (although the site is really outdated anyway). This tracklist was posted by Danny as well, not sure if it is the final one.

Quote
further
summernight horizon
dreaming light of the sunrise
get off get out
angels walk among us
presence
a simple mistake
the gathering of the clouds
the storm before the calm
lightning song
and i see you in everything
hindsight

'We're Here Because We're Here' has been mentioned as album title. I prefer Horizons, but it's not too bad.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on August 18, 2009, 06:19:19 AM
FINALLY

edit: wait, that's yet another album coming out this year that will be awesome  :hat Album of the year will be horrible to judge!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 18, 2009, 06:23:25 AM
The news I read sounds pretty credible (Finally!).
This year has been amazing so far. Too bad PoS will probably be next year :(.

I just read that it will be released on K-Scope in Europe, not sure about the rest of the world.
Chances are that Steven Wilson will be mixing the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on August 18, 2009, 08:08:07 AM

Chances are that Steven Wilson will be mixing the album.

I thought he already was mixing it?    :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 18, 2009, 08:09:33 AM

Chances are that Steven Wilson will be mixing the album.

I thought he already was mixing it?    :-\
He said he would be mixing it. But that was about 4 years ago :p. Not sure were in the progress of making the album they are now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on August 18, 2009, 04:05:34 PM
Quote from: Vincent Cavanagh's Twitter page
For the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V

That was August 2'nd.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 19, 2009, 05:31:26 AM
Quote from: Vincent Cavanagh's Twitter page
For the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V

That was August 2'nd.
Yea, just read that as well.

Danny confirmed today on a forum that Steven Wilson wil not be producing the album. Chris Tsangarides is the most likely candidate now. And it will indeed be called 'We're Here Because We're Here'  (also said by Danny).

Anneke v Giersbergen probably did some vocals.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 08, 2009, 03:49:15 AM
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we are on our way to london to meet with management and record company. Long awaited news to follow

https://twitter.com/vincentcavanagh
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on October 08, 2009, 07:24:14 AM
Quote from: Vincent Cavanagh's Twitter page
For the record: our new album wont be called Horizons. Any download links out there are fake. Dont use them! 5 days recording to go. Love, V

That was August 2'nd.
Yea, just read that as well.

Danny confirmed today on a forum that Steven Wilson wil not be producing the album. Chris Tsangarides is the most likely candidate now. And it will indeed be called 'We're Here Because We're Here'  (also said by Danny).

Anneke v Giersbergen probably did some vocals.

That last part makes me very happy! :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on October 08, 2009, 09:54:41 AM
Wee bit disappointed SW isn't mixing altho I expect he's much busier now than he was when he originally decided to do it.

Preferred Horizons to We're Here... but I'll get over it long as album is great and I can see them live
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 08, 2009, 05:17:05 PM
Damn it, why no Wilson :sadpanda:

However, new anathema so it doesn't matter anyway, it'll be damn good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Blind_FaithX on October 20, 2009, 02:08:52 PM
Listening to Alternative 4 right now. Downloaded their entire discography. I'm really impressed by that first listen. Definitely some Pink Floyd influence, especially for the voice. Some of the vocals feels really similar to PF's vocals.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 20, 2009, 03:23:43 PM
Listening to Alternative 4 right now. Downloaded their entire discography. I'm really impressed by that first listen. Definitely some Pink Floyd influence, especially for the voice. Some of the vocals feels really similar to PF's vocals.
Yea, they are definitely influenced a lot by Floyd. They have some amazing covers of Comfortably Numb. Try Judgement next, last time I tried making a top 10 album list, Judgement was #4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 20, 2009, 02:15:14 PM
Anyone got any news about the new album?
Last i heard, it was scheduled for November, but seeing as December isn't THAT far away, im starting to wonder. :o
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 20, 2009, 03:55:41 PM
Pushed back yet again, no new news...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on November 20, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
(https://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/good_mate_jones/fffuuuu.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 21, 2009, 06:23:09 AM
(https://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo68/Crw34/FFfuuuu.gif)
Bandwith exceeded?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on November 21, 2009, 07:46:01 AM
fixed ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 24, 2009, 03:25:26 PM
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the album will be mixed in new year. we've been talking to labels to find the right way to release it. it will be out in the spring. cheers edward - vincent
I won't believe anything till I have the album in my hands.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 25, 2009, 04:51:10 AM
Quote
the album will be mixed in new year. we've been talking to labels to find the right way to release it. it will be out in the spring. cheers edward - vincent
I won't believe anything till I have the album in my hands.

I agree.
This is actually getting a bit frustrating for me, since they haven't released an album since 2003, and 7 years is too long imo.
The good thing is that i got lots of other good bands etc. to listen to, so i'll survive, but then Anathema's cd must be something special.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on November 25, 2009, 09:08:39 AM
I'm less fussed because I haven't been mad about anything since Judgement... but it's still too long. I feel sorry for Tool fans for the same reason, especially when they released 10,000 days.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 25, 2009, 09:33:05 AM
I'm less fussed because I haven't been mad about anything since Judgement... but it's still too long. I feel sorry for Tool fans for the same reason, especially when they released 10,000 days.

Idd, Tool is another band i like very much, but i hate them for that reason.
APC and Puscifer aside, i really think Tool should focus more on Tool.
But what did you mean with the Judgement thing? :o
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on November 27, 2009, 10:14:53 AM
I don't really like A Fine Day to Exit or A Natural Disaster. Though pulled under at 2000 meters a second is amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 27, 2009, 10:46:59 AM
I don't really like A Fine Day to Exit or A Natural Disaster. Though pulled under at 2000 meters a second is amazing.

I like them both =P
They have some really amazing songs, like Underworld, A Fine Day To Exit, Temporary Peace, Looking Outside Inside, Flying, Harmonium, Balance/closer and A natural disaster. :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on November 27, 2009, 10:53:46 AM
How does that compete with the perfection of the previous two albums? ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 27, 2009, 11:06:24 AM
How does that compete with the perfection of the previous two albums? ;)

I think Anathema has a certain "Porcupine Tree-quality".
Not as good, but what i mean by that is that there isn't really a bad Anathema song (imo), there's some songs that doesn't stand out to me a lot (mostly from Eternity), but not bad.
Also, they've changed musical-style a lot, which is also a bit Porcupine Tree-ish.
My favorite albums by them would be The Silent Enigma and Judgement (both very different from eachother), but A Fine Day To Exit and A Natural Disaster are great as well. :>
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on December 03, 2009, 01:52:47 PM
Quote
Hello from deepest darkest Devon, UK.
Right now we are meticulously placing the final sounds on our new baby. The labour has been long and intense but by next week our job is done and it is in the hands of the mid-wife (mix engineer). After which we will cut the umbilical chord [sic] then it goes into incubation for an indeterminate amount of weeks. Meanwhile we interview various foster parents to see who has the greatest capacity to give the child the best start in life. If all goes well, the little bastard will see the light of day in the spring. This will be cause for celebration. Not least for us. So with that in mind, the first thing I have planned is the event you see here, visit:

https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=181509738508&ref=ts

It will tell you what you need to know. I will be playing with a few of my friends. One of which, I am proud to say, is Monsieur Les (Jacques Daniels) Smith, Anathema's very own tickler of the finest ivories and smuggler of precious metals. As I will be joined by my friend and cohort we've decided to play some of the best Anathema songs. Also we'll play new tunes and versions of some of my favourite bands. This is gonna be a memorable evening and a great way to end the year. In 2010 we get the chance to return to where you are. Maybe we can visit some of those places that have so far been impossible to reach. Time will tell. We'll do everything we can. I think TCV put it about right, deserve the future!

xoxox

V
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on December 23, 2009, 06:50:26 AM
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"THE ALBUM IS FINISHED! We took our time to get it right, and I believe we have done that. I have the hard drive here in my country cottage, it is ready to be given to Steven Wilson. Happy christmas and wonderful times to all!"

Danny on Facebook.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on December 23, 2009, 07:05:06 AM
\o/

That is all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on December 23, 2009, 02:15:05 PM
\o/

That is all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on December 23, 2009, 04:06:16 PM
So SW will be doing this after all? I'm confused.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on December 23, 2009, 04:42:56 PM
So SW will be doing this after all? I'm confused.

Apparently so :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on December 26, 2009, 01:21:47 PM
Posted by Danny on the Anathema forum that he posts on:

Quote
tracklist

THIN AIR
SUMMERNIGHT HORIZON
DREAMING LIGHT
EVERYTHING
ANGELS WALK AMONG US
PRESENCE
A SIMPLE MISTAKE
THE STORM BEFORE THE CALM
GET OFF, GET OUT
UNIVERSAL
HINDSIGHT



the full length of the album is about 62 minutes. its produced by vincent cavanagh and assisted by me, its recorded by les smith, mark ellis, darryl anthony, jamie and vincent cavanagh

all songs written by danny cavanagh, john douglas and vincent cavanagh

the songs have been upgraded, made better, layered with textures and harmonies, and i am sure when it is mixed and ready to go, its going to do very well. exactly how well it does remains to be seen, but it is WAY above aything we ever did before.

in fact, i think the scene is stale and needs a shake up, and we are the ones to do it.

scheduled for release in april via kscope music. a complete full european tour playing the whole album will be coming to all european territories... at some point in the future there MIGHT be a US tour with porcupine tree, and an EP independently released later in the year.

:-)

https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?t=5028
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on December 26, 2009, 01:51:42 PM
\o/

That is all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on December 29, 2009, 11:23:35 PM
Yesterday there was a Danny/Anneke acoustic show. Here's what I missed because I hadn't received any salary the whole month.

Daniel Cavanagh: 1. Wasted Years (IRON MAIDEN)
2. Deep (ANATHEMA)
3. Lost Control (ANATHEMA)
4. One Last Goodbye (ANATHEMA)
5. Are You There? (ANATHEMA)
6. Wish You Were Here (PINK FLOYD)
7. High Hopes (PINK FLOYD)
8. Big Love (FLEETWOOD MAC)
9. Fragile Dreams (ANATHEMA)
10. Flying (ANATHEMA)

Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Lost and Found (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
2. Day After Yesterday (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
3. Wonder (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
4. Nu Nog (Anneke van Giersbergen)
5. Trail of Grief (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
6. My Electricity (THE GATHERING)
7. Beautiful One (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
8. Yalin (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
9. Sunny Side Up (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
10. Hey Okay! (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
11. Not The Most Pretty Girl (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
12. The Power of Love (FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD)

Daniel Cavanagh and Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Teardrop (MASSIVE ATTACK)
2. A Natural Disaster (ANATHEMA)
3. Parisienne Moonlight (ANATHEMA)
4. Songbird (FLEETWOOD MAC)
5. Temporary Peace (ANATHEMA)
6. The Blower's Daughter (DAMIEN RICE)
7. Leaves (THE GATHERING)
8. Jolene (DOLLY PARTON)
Encore:
9. You Learn About It (THE GATHERING)
10. Stairway To Heaven (LED ZEPPELIN)
11. Longest Day (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)

How about that, eh? I want to kill myself. But I won't, because Danny has said that they are thinking about coming again and recording a DVD. Hope he wasn't fucking with us.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on December 30, 2009, 01:50:03 PM
Yesterday there was a Danny/Anneke acoustic show. Here's what I missed because I hadn't received any salary the whole month.

Daniel Cavanagh: 1. Wasted Years (IRON MAIDEN)
2. Deep (ANATHEMA)
3. Lost Control (ANATHEMA)
4. One Last Goodbye (ANATHEMA)
5. Are You There? (ANATHEMA)
6. Wish You Were Here (PINK FLOYD)
7. High Hopes (PINK FLOYD)
8. Big Love (FLEETWOOD MAC)
9. Fragile Dreams (ANATHEMA)
10. Flying (ANATHEMA)

Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Lost and Found (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
2. Day After Yesterday (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
3. Wonder (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
4. Nu Nog (Anneke van Giersbergen)
5. Trail of Grief (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
6. My Electricity (THE GATHERING)
7. Beautiful One (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
8. Yalin (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
9. Sunny Side Up (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
10. Hey Okay! (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
11. Not The Most Pretty Girl (AGUA DE ANNIQUE)
12. The Power of Love (FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD)

Daniel Cavanagh and Anneke van Giersbergen:
1. Teardrop (MASSIVE ATTACK)
2. A Natural Disaster (ANATHEMA)
3. Parisienne Moonlight (ANATHEMA)
4. Songbird (FLEETWOOD MAC)
5. Temporary Peace (ANATHEMA)
6. The Blower's Daughter (DAMIEN RICE)
7. Leaves (THE GATHERING)
8. Jolene (DOLLY PARTON)
Encore:
9. You Learn About It (THE GATHERING)
10. Stairway To Heaven (LED ZEPPELIN)
11. Longest Day (ANNEKE VAN GIERSBERGEN & AGUA DE ANNIQUE)

How about that, eh? I want to kill myself. But I won't, because Danny has said that they are thinking about coming again and recording a DVD. Hope he wasn't fucking with us.

 :omg:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on December 31, 2009, 12:32:24 AM
A silver lining in the black cloud - someone made a recording of it. 128kbps but for an acoustic show it still sounds OK.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 01, 2010, 07:48:26 PM
A silver lining in the black cloud - someone made a recording of it. 128kbps but for an acoustic show it still sounds OK.

is it on dimeadozen or..?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on January 01, 2010, 07:54:47 PM
Nah, I doubt it is. It's 2 60 and 100MB wma files with a shitty bitrate. If you're interested I can rapidshare (or some other site of your choice) it. I think sharing a link to that bootleg would be OK here?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 02, 2010, 08:10:19 AM
definitely, thanks :)

(definitely please, not definitely okay to post)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 02, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
Okay so I decided that A Fine Day To Exit is pretty amazing, only A Natural Disaster left to click now :hat

edit: Release :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 02, 2010, 01:07:53 PM
Okay so I decided that A Fine Day To Exit is pretty amazing, only A Natural Disaster left to click now :hat

edit: Release :hefdaddy

So i guess the first albums have clicked then? :>
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 02, 2010, 01:35:40 PM
whoops :facepalm: I always forget they did stuff before alternative 4.

I'm not very keen on doom metal, so discounting those 3 albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 02, 2010, 03:36:03 PM
whoops :facepalm: I always forget they did stuff before alternative 4.

I'm not very keen on doom metal, so discounting those 3 albums.

Eternity is very simular to the more modern Anathema-sound, and i'd say it's closer to the albums after it, then the albums before it.
The Silent Enigma is a true masterpiece, but i don't get Serenades.
I just don't think much about it, i think the fact that Vincent doesn't sing on it ruins the "anathema-feeling".
However, Sleepless is one of their best songs ever made, period.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on January 05, 2010, 01:35:23 PM
I never understand why they didn't stick to the kind of music they were making in the Eternity era. Judgement was probably too far for me, although I recently bought "A Natural Disaster" which doesn't seem too bad. The Silent Enigma is impressive I agree.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 05, 2010, 01:36:19 PM
Judgement and Alternative 4 are their best albums in my opinion. I like all their albums though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on January 05, 2010, 01:39:14 PM
Anathema is one of my favourite bands, so I thought I'd make a topic. They aren't really well know in the US, which is a shame. They have a few really solid albums, but unfortunately their last album was a few years ago (not including Hindsight, which is acoustic renditions of old songs).

Last.fm tags them as atmospheric rock with a few progressive influences. Their style has changed alot, the first few albums were death/doom metal but their last few albums are atmospheric/progressive. I recommend all of you to listen to Judgement and Alternative 4, two of my favourite albums. But I like everything they made after (and including) Eternity.
Progressive rock but no way would I call the last 4 original albums prog. metal. I bought Hindsight and am still working out if Angelica sounds good with doing it acoustically.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 05, 2010, 05:23:53 PM
I think all Anathema-albums are great, apart from Serenades.
Even though i love Judgement, adore A Natural Disaster, worship A Fine Day To Exit and like Alternative 4, i still don't think The Silent Enigma can be topped.
To me, that is one of "those" albums, an album so perfect that you don't want to change it for a bit.
It has Great songs, great variety, and i really love the "raw"-sound.
I think what makes the album so perfect, is the fact that it was kinda before the "big" breakthrough.
There's several bands that i feel, has made their best albums before the commercial-success.
Eternity is another masterpiece that deserves to be mentioned, but it often gets forgotten.
What i mean by all of this is not that i like older-Anathema over newer-Anathema, but i think the magic, the whole time/place/stars location in the universe etc. has made The Silent Enigma nr1.

I'm a bit sleepy now, but hopefully the text above is understandable. :P
And, i'd just like to add a tiny list of my album-ranking as it is now:

1. The Silent Enigma
--
2. Judgement
3. Eternity
4. A Fine Day To Exit
5. A Natural Disaster (haven't listened to this one in a while, gotta play it soon again)
6. Alternative 4
--
7. Serenades
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 07, 2010, 04:55:14 AM
Alternative 4 6th?

 :|
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 07, 2010, 08:24:59 AM
Alternative 4 6th?

 :|

Im having a really hard time ranking Alternative 4, A Fine Day To Exit and A Natural Disaster.
To me, they're all pretty much equally great, so the ranking would be more 'proper' if i would put them all on 3d place together with Eternity.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on January 07, 2010, 01:34:52 PM
The weird thing is they went from writing epic songs about mystical visions and dreams to "love songs". There's still the odd instrumental and rock song but the emphasis is on the "softer" stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 07, 2010, 04:20:40 PM
Ye, i gotta say i miss the old-anathema a bit.
Not the earliest-anathema, but the "middle"-era, with The Silent Enigma-Eternity-Alternative 4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on January 16, 2010, 03:48:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIskztf60s

Great song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 16, 2010, 04:41:52 PM
Picked up physical copies of a couple of Anathema albums today :metal

A Fine Day To Exit has a nice dark album booklet :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 19, 2010, 06:10:54 AM
(https://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1096/wilsonanathema.jpg) (https://img163.imageshack.us/i/wilsonanathema.jpg/)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 19, 2010, 11:11:21 AM
(https://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f57/SarahOMiller/Album2/funny-pictures-racoon-yes.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 25, 2010, 05:57:27 PM
Daniel Cavanaugh:
Quote
Vincent, John and I are with mr. Wilson right now and it's working very well!

:-)

https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?t=5073

Seems Wilson is definitely mixing it  :laugh:.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on January 26, 2010, 02:19:11 PM
I demand a 5.1 mix.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on February 13, 2010, 01:09:21 PM
Not sure if I prefer the old or new version but it's good they still play the old "doom" stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNgJcr9Rdak&NR=1 [vocals a bit inaudible]

2008:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsYPjP4M73o&feature=related



Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 04, 2010, 04:59:29 AM
According to Danny, it's finished. Again. But at least Steven Wilson stays in the picture.

https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?s=2aa3671552a19cf0ab646c31bb964716&t=5253
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: reneranucci on March 05, 2010, 11:47:38 AM
I´ve been getting into them lately, the first few songs on Alternative 4 absolutely do it for me. I only have Hindsight but I think it´s more like a compilation. So I´m planning to get A Natural Disaster and Fine Day to Exit, are those good choices?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on March 05, 2010, 11:56:46 AM
Alternative 4 and anything since that is a good choice. Make sure you don't miss on Judgement, even if you (for whatever reason) don't like the ones you're planning to listen to first.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: reneranucci on March 05, 2010, 11:59:19 AM
Alternative 4 and anything since that is a good choice. Make sure you don't miss on Judgement, even if you (for whatever reason) don't like the ones you're planning to listen to first.
Ah Ok judgement is another alternative, too. Thank you.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 05, 2010, 01:02:13 PM
Judgement is a great record.
And good to hear that you like them, i think Alternative 4 is a great record overall, because it has awesome variety with more "standard"-type songs like "Fragile Dreams" and "Empty" but it also has the title track, and "Regret" which is one of their best songs imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 05, 2010, 04:18:52 PM
Judgement is my personal favorite but anything after Eternity (and some before it) is golden imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on March 05, 2010, 05:47:28 PM
Guys, I've never heard Anathema and I've heard is a great band. What album should I start with?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on March 05, 2010, 05:49:45 PM
Alternative 4.

Though I bet you can get hooked on the song Release from A Fine Day To Exit in a single listen :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 05, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
Tbh Anathema is a band i don't really know where you should start. :p
They got so many great albums, and even though they all have different sounds, it hasn't really changed like "OMG WHAT HAPPEND?" between 2 albums, the result is that their latest 4-5 (maybe 6?) albums are really solid, and share several things when it comes to the music.
Personally, the first song i heard by them was Fragile Dreams. (the reason behind this, was that it was their most played song on Lastfm, so i decided to start with it).
After that, i tried to get into Alternative 4, but i was very impatient at the time, and got disappointed that the following tracks didn't sound like FD at all, since that was the track i first heard and loved.
I moved on to Judgement (since it was the most played album on lastfm), and i liked it.
But i decided to really give them a chance, and after like 10-11 plays of the album in 2-3 days, i loved it.
It was a bit hard to get into for me, not because the music was difficult or anything, but because one of the things that is typical for Anathema imo is the tiny subtle things.
A song doesn't have to sound extremely difficult or technical, but if you listen to it carefully a few times, you realize like "wow, whats that guitar-solo?" or w/e.

Overall, this band has so many great albums/songs, and it's not really a question of where you start, just give the band time and listen to albums several times.
They will grow, and you will love it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on March 07, 2010, 11:40:09 AM
Correct post is correct!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 09, 2010, 04:19:55 PM
Quote
Album cover is done.... things are moving
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 20, 2010, 12:16:03 PM
(https://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9555/werehere.jpg)

New album, out May 31st.

1. Thin Air
2. Summernight Horizon
3. Dreaming Light
4. Everything
5. Angels Walk Among Us
6. Presence
7. A Simple Mistake
8. Get Off, Get Out
9. Universal
10. Hindsight


https://anathema.ws/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on March 20, 2010, 02:15:24 PM
(https://www.free-horror-movies.com/pics/ScannersExplodingHead.gif)
(https://www.free-horror-movies.com/pics/ScannersExplodingHead.gif)
(https://www.free-horror-movies.com/pics/ScannersExplodingHead.gif)
(https://www.free-horror-movies.com/pics/ScannersExplodingHead.gif)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 20, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
You be stealing my news in mah topic!

I really can't wait for this album. I hope it is worth the 7 or so year wait.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 20, 2010, 04:30:41 PM
And to add to that; f'ing sweet cover.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on March 20, 2010, 05:13:12 PM
You know if this album is anything below amazing i'm gonna be disappointed. I wonder what the style is of the album...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 20, 2010, 05:16:46 PM
About 3 or 4 songs have already been released in one way or another. Most of them some time ago though.

I just hope Lee Douglas isn't featured too much. I find her singing to be fairly annoying.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 21, 2010, 04:56:08 AM
I really like the cover too, my expectations are really high, because at this point i feel like Anathema has been letting us down for a long time.
Starting with the delay of the album (been 7 years since last album), and now it looks like the final-version will have 10 songs, though im pretty sure the setlist had 14-15 songs from the first "reports".
Anyhow, im really psyched about it never the less. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 21, 2010, 06:44:10 AM
I'm just glad that it has the song 'Hindsight' on it. The bootleg versions of it are already great, can't wait to hear it in high quality.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 21, 2010, 06:54:04 AM
I haven't actually heard any bootlegs/live versions what-so-ever, so im really psyched about this album, not knowing anything about it.
Many of the fans have already heard some early-live-versions, i missed Anathema when they were here last September, because it was 18 y/o restriction to get in, 2 weeks before my 18th birthday.
The guard didn't let me in, and even though i was disappointed then, now im more then psyched to see them. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on March 21, 2010, 07:05:33 AM
Awesome news. I'm hoping they'll play it all live at the Islington gig a week or so before (reminds me to buy tickets)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 22, 2010, 02:13:24 AM


I just hope Lee Douglas isn't featured too much. I find her singing to be fairly annoying.

Quote from: Anathema
With that in mind the band can announce that John Douglas' sister Lee has joined the group on a full-time basis. She had this to say of her involvement:

"It’s great to be more involved musically, and I feel that my vocals are adding a new presence and depth to the dynamic of the group. I’m in it for the long haul, so bring it on!"

I giggled. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 22, 2010, 02:13:47 AM
edit.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 22, 2010, 08:57:30 AM
I had already read that, that is why I hope her input won't be as much as that I think that it is.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 22, 2010, 09:02:50 AM
I had already read that, that is why I hope her input won't be as much as that I think that it is.

Considering she doesn't play an instrument, i think her vocals will be featured on most songs, at least live. Otherwise she'll just be standing in the background. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 22, 2010, 09:04:28 AM
I had already read that, that is why I hope her input won't be as much as that I think that it is.

Considering she doesn't play an instrument, i think her vocals will be featured on most songs, at least live. Otherwise she'll just be standing in the background. :P
I saw them live twice, and I was glad she wasn't there the second time :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on March 22, 2010, 09:48:37 AM
I really like Lee's contribution to Anathema   :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on March 22, 2010, 01:14:10 PM
Me too, although I prefer Anneke's singing on their songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 09, 2010, 12:03:33 PM
thread rez.

Anathema are doing an evening with show in london the day after the anesthetize premier... do I stay overnight and see them?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2010, 12:06:07 PM
thread rez.

Anathema are doing an evening with show in london the day after the anesthetize premier... do I stay overnight and see them?

Obviously!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 09, 2010, 12:09:50 PM
But moooney :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 09, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
You should definitely go to the Anathema show. It's gonna be awesome I'm sure!
I would offer you accomodation but not exactly bursting with space here...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 09, 2010, 03:28:28 PM
Go, they were really awesome the times I saw them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 09, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
You should definitely go to the Anathema show. It's gonna be awesome I'm sure!
I would offer you accomodation but not exactly bursting with space here...

I've slept in some preeetty tight places if it makes it any better :lol (5 people on one single bed :metal)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2010, 05:22:54 PM
If Anathema doesn't come back here to Sweden on this coming tour, i'm gonna flash white with rage and kill everything in sight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 09, 2010, 05:26:10 PM
Darn, the gig is a week or so before the album is released :(

...

well.

"released"
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 09, 2010, 05:28:59 PM
Let's just hope it will be released then.

I'm going to try to catch them sometime on their next tour. They usually have 3/4 dates in The Netherlands per tour - they seem to love us.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2010, 05:30:10 PM
Still can't get over the fact that i had tickets for their concert here last September, but the security-dude didn't let me in due to the 18 y/o restriction, and it was 2 weeks before i 18th birthday. :P
That seriously made me a  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 09, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
I don't really get why there would be a 18+ restriction.

I think I was the only one that was more excited to see Anathema then PT when they opened for PT.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2010, 05:34:31 PM
I don't really get why there would be a 18+ restriction.

I think I was the only one that was more excited to see Anathema then PT when they opened for PT.

That's pretty nice. :)
Getting both bands in one package.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 09, 2010, 05:35:15 PM
I can confirm that it was pretty awesome :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 10, 2010, 04:46:28 AM
You should definitely go to the Anathema show. It's gonna be awesome I'm sure!
I would offer you accomodation but not exactly bursting with space here...

I've slept in some preeetty tight places if it makes it any better :lol (5 people on one single bed :metal)

Very  :metal

There is a sofa not currently in use but it's really rather uncomfortable
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 10, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
Better than the floor, which I was on 5-6 days a week for 5 weeks :metal

Also, seeing Anathema support PT was the best surprise ever. Just...wow. The whole crowd either already loved them or was in shock at how awesome the support were!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 11, 2010, 07:22:26 AM
When was that?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 11, 2010, 08:55:46 AM
Arriving Somewhere or Deadwing tour, I forget which. Cambridge gig.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 11, 2010, 09:08:29 AM
Am jealous. Before my time with regards to good music sadly  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 11, 2010, 02:17:38 PM
So would you be okay with me crashing on that couch? *puppy eyes*
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 11, 2010, 02:22:33 PM
I'll find out...more my Mum's decision than mine
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 12, 2010, 03:44:24 AM
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 18, 2010, 06:52:10 AM
We're here... Is now on pre-order on the website were I usually order music. I really cannot wait for this album :dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 18, 2010, 01:56:21 PM
Goodness, took long enough!

edit: I forgot how pretty the new front cover is :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 18, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
Yea, it's so pretty  :D.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 18, 2010, 04:34:35 PM
Violence just clicked for me :omg: :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 18, 2010, 04:42:35 PM
Violence just clicked for me :omg: :hefdaddy
Violence in amazing. I love it so much  :heart.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 18, 2010, 05:39:36 PM
Too bad it's my least favourite album overall by far :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 19, 2010, 04:53:20 PM
Oh man, apparently Hevein covered Empty by Anathema live... wish I could have heard that :( (nothing on youtube etc)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 20, 2010, 11:21:39 AM
Hey Voxyn, you want to do a top 25 or something for these guys?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 20, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
Hey Voxyn, you want to do a top 25 or something for these guys?
I am incredibly bad at making top whatever lists, but I am willing to give it a try sometime. Hadn't thought about it but it sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 20, 2010, 02:45:22 PM
I've actually thought about doing a topX-thread with Anathema, but i've hesitated a bit, since i didn't think many people would be interested in following. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 20, 2010, 03:02:21 PM
Well I seem to notice that people follow them as they see it as a reason to start listening to / trying a band.

Also, Make It Right (F.F.S.) has keyboards that sound so Dream Theater Awake-esque that its scary :omg:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 20, 2010, 03:05:25 PM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=12544.0

I am already happy if you two are there to discuss my list and descriptions :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 20, 2010, 03:05:40 PM
Well, i really like Anathema and making a list would be fun.
Plus-side is that they would probably get some new fans as well. :)
But it's a bit up to Voxyn as well, since you did ask him first.  :corn
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 20, 2010, 03:07:06 PM
Too late :p.

My first list. I'm not that good at making lists but I shall try my best.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 07:36:30 AM
https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/wereherebecausewerehere/

If you suscribe to the mailing list, you receive 'Thin Air' off the new album. I'm downloading it right now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 07:51:29 AM
*eargasme*

It's the Ann Further that I mentioned in the top 20 thread, but with a different title and even more awesome.

Edit: The two other previews on the site are awesome as well. Cannot wait :dangerwillrobinson:. Next month is going to be so amazing, with two of my absolute favorite bands coming with new albums :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on April 24, 2010, 08:32:01 AM
Anathema releasing the new album...

I'd still be careful. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 08:39:54 AM
I know, but it really seems to be true this time :p. With pre-orders already going on and the record label promoting it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on April 24, 2010, 08:41:58 AM
I was kidding, but well, it took them only seven years... :P Really looking forward to it, I like A Natural Disaster very much so I'm curious what it will be like. And I guess if it has taken them so long, it's going to be polished to perfection.

But wow, 4 awesome releases within three weeks... Anathema, Pain of Salvation, The Pineapple Thief, and Porcupine Tree DVD. I'm going to need a 48-hour day or something in May.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 09:07:12 AM
Thin Air is amazing  :hefdaddy.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 02:27:58 PM
5.1 surround mix? The main album was mixed by Wilson which means..

 :omg: :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 02:29:41 PM
5.1 surround mix? The main album was mixed by Wilson which means..

 :omg: :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Wish I could afford a 5.1 system :(. Am probably still buying the special edition to have the mix though. It's only 2 euro more and maybe sometime in the future I will be able to buy a 5.1 system :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 02:38:33 PM
You can buy cheap 5.1 systems here for ~£50, just get one of them :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 02:43:59 PM
You can buy cheap 5.1 systems here for ~£50, just get one of them :P
I want a good one D:.

But I will certainly consider it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 02:55:00 PM
Trust me, it's worth it. You get better at TF2 too cause you get directional hearing/warning ;)

But anyway, Thin Air is amazing! If the rest of the album is like this, it will be an easy contender for album of the year, against Pain of Salvation obviously (and The Pineapple Thief, Dark Tranquillity etc)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 03:02:37 PM
Until now I would call Jónsi's album the album of the year. Bit with PoS and Anathema coming up, it's going to be hard to keep that title :p.

I might be more exited for Anathema than for PoS, and that says a lot seeing I am a huge PoS fan.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 03:17:42 PM
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D
I bet they don't have Daniel Gildenlöw!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 24, 2010, 03:25:48 PM
Dream Theater, Opeth and Porcupine Tree don't have Gildenlow and do just fine :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 24, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Yet not as good as PoS :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on April 24, 2010, 03:43:46 PM
Once again I find out no one has probably created any better songs for depressive mood than Lost Control.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 25, 2010, 08:00:35 AM
Must resist the urge to listen to 'Thin Air' on repeat...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on April 26, 2010, 08:57:08 AM
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D

The new DT album is NOWHERE near their best one
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on April 26, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
That's only because you don't like Dark Tranquillity, and their new album is probably their best, and it's their 11th album ;D

The new DT album is NOWHERE near their best one

Sure it is. Fiction beat The Gallery, and This beats Fiction :loser:
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 02, 2010, 06:05:36 AM
The song 'Dreaming Light' has been released. Not going to listen to it though. Although I am hearing nothing but good things about it.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 04, 2010, 06:01:28 PM
Road Salt which is coming out in 12 days will keep me entertained till the end of the month.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: Zantera on May 05, 2010, 04:56:46 AM
I've waited all my life for this album, i can wait 3 more weeks.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: faemir on May 05, 2010, 03:33:37 PM
OH GOD ITS SO AMAZING
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: faemir on May 05, 2010, 03:48:21 PM
It already contains their best ballad. No joke :D
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 05, 2010, 03:48:43 PM
Listening to it together with Faemir now. I'm so excited :dangerwillrobinson:.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: AndyDT on May 05, 2010, 03:55:53 PM
Which of their other albums is this album most closest to?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 05, 2010, 03:57:33 PM
I'm only on the third song so far, but I'd say something between Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 05, 2010, 03:59:19 PM
We just got the the ballad Faemir mentions before.


DAMN! This is AMAZING!
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: AndyDT on May 05, 2010, 04:00:24 PM
I'm only on the third song so far, but I'd say something between Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album incoming)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 05, 2010, 04:01:09 PM
I'm only on the third song so far, but I'd say something between Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.

Thanks.
If I remember correct - you like the old Anathema better, right?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: AndyDT on May 05, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
Yes, Eternity particularly. Although I thought the Hindsight version of Angelica was very good and the version of Are you There made me think more of the A Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on May 05, 2010, 04:17:54 PM
On the note of Anathema, I actually got into these guys in 2001. A guy in my class found out I liked metal and came to school a few days later and handed me Alternative 4 and Judgement (which is kinda funny, cos those albums are really not metal). At the time, Judgement clicked, but Alternative 4 not so much. I LOVED Shroud of False / Fragile Dreams, played those two songs to death, but didn't like the rest of the album, so I didn't copy it, and, for some reason, didn't even bother getting a copy of those two songs.

Despite liking A Fine Day to Exit and A Natural Disaster as well, I've never actually considered checking out that album again, until this week. Listened to most of the tracks on youtube, and it now sounds like it'd be my favourite album of theirs.

And I had completely forgotten how amazing those first two tracks are. I literally hadn't heard them or thought of them at all in about eight and a half years, but on first listen, I remembered every tiny detail. I'm still baffled that I somehow ended up completely forgetting about them.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 05, 2010, 04:34:03 PM
'Universal' is currently blowing my mind.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 05, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
How Empty didn't rock your face is beyond me :P
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 06, 2010, 10:13:04 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: shadowfex on May 06, 2010, 04:27:41 PM
Wow, thin air and angels walk among us is great!

Is their new album a good place to start with these guys?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 06, 2010, 04:39:01 PM
Wow, thin air and angels walk among us is great!

Is their new album a good place to start with these guys?

They change their style so often, it's hard to say. But the new album is amazing, so I'd say go for it.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 06, 2010, 05:48:39 PM
Wow, thin air and angels walk among us is great!

Is their new album a good place to start with these guys?


Wait till you hear dreaming light.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 06, 2010, 05:49:53 PM
I can't seem to get enough of that song.
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Post by: LCArenas on May 06, 2010, 08:22:16 PM
Hearing Dreaming Light right now for the first time. I think I just, you know, like... Came.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 06, 2010, 09:38:52 PM
If I like Pink Floyd and PT will I dig this band? Thinking about getting a few albums, where should I start?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Nick on May 06, 2010, 09:39:57 PM
In general, I'd say you will, but there is certainly enough wiggle room that you may not like them.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 06, 2010, 11:45:08 PM
If I like Pink Floyd and PT will I dig this band? Thinking about getting a few albums, where should I start?
We're Here Because We're Here (:hefdaddy), Alternative 4 or Judgement. Although you might also like A Natural Disaster seeing as it is a bite more proggy than those last two.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: abydos on May 07, 2010, 12:20:50 AM
Also get every PF cover they've done, because they are much better than the originals.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 07, 2010, 12:25:38 AM
Also get every PF cover they've done, because they are much better than the originals.
I wouldn't say that, but they are some of the best covers I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 07, 2010, 05:41:06 AM
This is most likely the best album 2010.
And i've only heard it once yet, but WOW.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 07, 2010, 09:28:32 AM
CAUSE EVERYTHIIIING IS ENERGEEEEEE AND ENERGEEE IS YOUUUU

Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 07, 2010, 02:41:55 PM
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Nick on May 07, 2010, 02:42:30 PM
My pre-order of this album needs to be less not here and more here.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 07, 2010, 03:58:48 PM
"A Simple Mistake"  :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 07, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
"A Simple Mistake"  :metal :hefdaddy

I raise with Universal.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 07, 2010, 04:15:08 PM
Not up to it yet, lol
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Nick on May 08, 2010, 06:58:06 AM
*post deleted*

Anyone else breaks a rule in this thread and they will be banned until the album is released.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 08, 2010, 01:54:19 PM
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.

Who's album is that? :P
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 08, 2010, 02:18:30 PM
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.

Who's album is that? :P

Can't think...must be a new band
Did you get my message btw?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: LCArenas on May 08, 2010, 02:23:18 PM
Listening to Were Here Because Were Here, it's pretty awesome so far.

Who's album is that? :P

Can't think...must be a new band
I heard It's a band that has Vince Cavanaugh and Kevin Moore :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 08, 2010, 03:21:14 PM
Do all of their lyrics have bad grammar in, like were instead of we're? :neverusethis:

(and yes I did :D my dad will tell me yay/nay tomorrow.)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 08, 2010, 03:46:33 PM
Listened to Alternative 4 today. Great album.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 08, 2010, 06:35:22 PM
WHBWH has already overtaken A4, and is nearing beating Judgement for best Anathema album :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2010, 03:17:44 AM
It has already become my favorite. :)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: AndyDT on May 09, 2010, 04:23:25 AM
What happened to their deal with Peaceville?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 09, 2010, 06:41:46 AM
WHBWH has already overtaken A4, and is nearing beating Judgement for best Anathema album :hefdaddy
This :hefdaddy.

Can't believe how awesome it is.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2010, 06:44:40 AM
WHBWH has already overtaken A4, and is nearing beating Judgement for best Anathema album :hefdaddy
This :hefdaddy.

Can't believe how awesome it is.

It's their best album, and one of the best albums i've heard in a really long time.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 09, 2010, 02:55:39 PM
I'm not sure if it beats Judgement. But if it ages well, chances are it will.

And Judgement is in my top 5 albums of all time.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2010, 03:00:18 PM
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13117.0

My review of the album. :)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 09, 2010, 03:44:41 PM
And I see the sunrise in your eyes...
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 10, 2010, 10:14:07 AM
Who are Anathema?
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 10, 2010, 11:36:06 AM
A band of which the latest album is one of the greatest albums I have ever heard.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 10, 2010, 11:40:27 AM
You didn't get that did you?

 ::)
The internet
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 10, 2010, 11:47:40 AM
 :(
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 10, 2010, 02:13:33 PM
Don't worry mate  ;D

It wasn't exactly funny anyway...
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: sonatafanica on May 10, 2010, 09:01:35 PM
I've never heard these guys, but I've heard a lot of talk all around about this album. Is it really that good? I'm tempted to pre order it...
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 11, 2010, 02:33:13 AM
They're an amazing band, so i think you should. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 11, 2010, 06:17:06 AM
I've never heard these guys, but I've heard a lot of talk all around about this album. Is it really that good? I'm tempted to pre order it...
It is that good.
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 11, 2010, 06:28:06 AM
New album finally made this happen:

(https://xs.to/image-E556_4BE94D42.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: Zantera on May 11, 2010, 06:35:54 AM
PoS being nr1 is a mockery against the music-industry.  :biggrin:

I got 1361 plays with Anathema atm, placing them at nr6.
Pretty sure they will pass DT and Dredg soon though. :)
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: faemir on May 11, 2010, 12:10:07 PM
I've never heard these guys, but I've heard a lot of talk all around about this album. Is it really that good? I'm tempted to pre order it...

Get iiiiit!
Title: Re: Anathema (new album made me eargasm)
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 11, 2010, 12:11:03 PM
I'm getting this right away. I have heard lots of positive things about this band, and this may be a great starting point for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 11, 2010, 12:11:59 PM
With all the publicity, perhaps you two should have waited a bit later to do your top 20 Anathema songs :lol
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Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 11, 2010, 12:13:58 PM
 :lol Well, let's see what happens  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on May 12, 2010, 11:41:43 AM
I came, I saw, I listened,



























I came again
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 12, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
 :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on May 12, 2010, 11:45:42 AM
It's pretty good. I don't know what to make of these guys, though. This type of music is new to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 12, 2010, 11:46:49 AM
They have changed styles quite a bit. Be sure to also check out at least Judgement and Alternative 4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 3MinuteWarning on May 13, 2010, 05:43:20 AM
Angels Walk Among Us is stunning.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on May 13, 2010, 01:49:34 PM
My mouse is hovering over the Pre order button.


DO I PRESS IT?!?!?!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 13, 2010, 01:52:39 PM
My mouse is hovering over the Pre order button.


DO I PRESS IT?!?!?!
Of course. You've heard it, you must know how awesome it is.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on May 13, 2010, 02:07:10 PM
*click*
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Post by: TheVoxyn on May 13, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
*click*
:biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 13, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
So guess who's seeing them next Friday :metal
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Post by: 3MinuteWarning on May 13, 2010, 05:06:46 PM
Lucky!

If only I didn't live as far from London as I do.  And if only I didn't have an exam that day.

Hard choice between Anathema and Transatlantic, no?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 13, 2010, 05:29:02 PM
I didn't realise there was a Transatlantic gig the same day :huh: Darn.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 13, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
So guess who's seeing them next Friday :metal
Cool! They were amazing the times that I saw them live, enjoy!

And I would rather see Anathema again than Transatlantic  :-X.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 14, 2010, 08:55:36 AM
I didn't realise there was a Transatlantic gig the same day :huh: Darn.

I knew...sorry, assumed you already did. Anathema will be better I think tbh, wasn't hard decision for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 14, 2010, 10:26:57 AM
SO far WHBWH is my number one album of 2010.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 14, 2010, 10:29:35 AM
SO far WHBWH is my number one album of 2010.
Same. But haven't heard the new PoS yet.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 14, 2010, 10:44:20 AM
SO far WHBWH is my number one album of 2010.
Same. But haven't heard the new PoS yet.

Yea that's probably the only contender this year, unless the new OSI is really, really good. Or Opeth releases something.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 14, 2010, 11:39:50 AM
It's so hard to balance all the new albums I have - 65days, Anathema, PoS plus all the new bands i've discovered.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on May 14, 2010, 04:21:18 PM
Whenever I listen to Pressure, I get quite the Planet Telex vibe.

Or since I heard Pressure first of those two songs, it's actually more the other way around. But since Planet Telex was released first, it feels more correct to phrase it like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 15, 2010, 10:00:52 PM
Totally digging We're Here Because We're Here still. Man this album rocks. It's got such a cool atmospheric/symphonic/post-rock feel to it, and I love it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on May 15, 2010, 10:06:10 PM
I took that one listen and then pre ordered it. I don't want to hear it again until I have it in full quality. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 16, 2010, 04:07:27 AM
After several plays, my conclusion is that this is a top10 (maybe 5 even) album amongst my favorites.
I love the earlier Anathema-albums, but this album doesn't sound like anything else they've done.
The positive energy is overwhelming, the atmosphere and the emotions are amazing, and overall this is a fantastic record.
I doubt there will be another album released this year that can top this, but again... Agalloch are working on a new album.
So you never know. :P
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Post by: AndyDT on May 17, 2010, 03:37:15 AM
I look forward to buying it and supporting the band.
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Post by: Portrucci on May 17, 2010, 03:47:41 AM
After several plays, my conclusion is that this is a top10 (maybe 5 even) album amongst my favorites.
I love the earlier Anathema-albums, but this album doesn't sound like anything else they've done.
The positive energy is overwhelming, the atmosphere and the emotions are amazing, and overall this is a fantastic record.
I doubt there will be another album released this year that can top this, but again... Agalloch are working on a new album.
So you never know. :P
We're Here Because We're Here is definitely my album of the year so far

but again... Agalloch are working on a new album. So you never know. :P

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 18, 2010, 09:12:29 PM
This album literally amazes me every time I hear it. I really can't get enough of it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 19, 2010, 04:00:37 AM
This album literally amazes me every time I hear it. I really can't get enough of it.
:yarr
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 19, 2010, 09:45:46 AM
Favourite is still Everything. I'm a sucker for Coldplay.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 19, 2010, 09:50:05 AM
I really love Everything, and the way it sounds very positive/uplifting.
Summernight Horizon and Universal are tied for the best song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 19, 2010, 09:51:18 AM
The wikipedia page for WHBWH needs updating.


"cause everything is energy and energy is you
and me is everything is energy and you and me"

 :heart :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SPNKr on May 20, 2010, 08:29:10 PM
I'm lovin' the new album :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on May 20, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
Hi, everybody. I'm just here to remind you the sheer awesomeness of A Simple Mistake.







That is all. Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elsydeon on May 20, 2010, 09:57:25 PM
Hi, everybody. I'm just here to remind you the sheer awesomeness of A Simple Mistake.







That is all. Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 21, 2010, 05:08:22 PM
Ok, Anathema were awesome tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 21, 2010, 05:15:09 PM
Of course they were :D.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 21, 2010, 06:28:28 PM
Yup they were :D

I enjoyed the songs i knew so much, I just wish I had listened to the stuff I don't more, 'cause I didn't know quite a few songs :S And lots I knew but didn't know the words which was kinda lame.

Oh and Voxyn, Lee is *so* much better now, her old stuff was just so much better live.

Also, Daniel looks odd with his short hair!

Oh yeah, everything kept dying too. Daniel lost power to his entire rig, then Vinnie lost monitors so Daniel gave him his, then they died too, and yet Vinnie still nailed all the vocal lines :D

edit: Oh and Vinnie got every to admit they pirated the new album, and they said they don't care, it's fine :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 22, 2010, 06:07:55 AM
I actually think Are You There? might have been the best bit...impromptu acoustic songs rock!

And I second that Danny looks weird with short hair. I genuinely wasn't 100% sure who he was when he first came on stage.

Review coming tomorrow!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 08:29:52 AM
         1. Thin Air
         2. Deep
         3. Pitiless
         4. Forgotten Hopes
         5. Destiny is Dead
         6. Dreaming Light
         7. Everything
         8. Are You There?
         9. One Last Goodbye
        10. Inner Silence
        11. Empty
        12. Lost Control
        13. Angels Walk Among Us
        14. Presence
        15. A Simple Mistake
        16. Closer
        17. Judgement
        18. Panic
        19. A Natural Disaster
        20. Temporary Peace
        21. Flying
             Encore:
        22. Universal
        23. Sleepless
        24. Shroud of False
        25. Fragile Dreams

Ooooooooh yeaaaah.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 22, 2010, 09:09:12 AM
Nice setlist.

How was Dreaming Light live? I remember One Last Goodbye being truly amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 11:48:51 AM
He nailed it 100%, was astounding. He did it without hearing himself too :metal

edit: A Natural Disaster is far worse on the album than it was live :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 22, 2010, 11:56:35 AM

edit: A Natural Disaster is far worse on the album than it was live :(

 :omg:
How is it? It's absolutely beautiful on record and live! I told you this yesterday!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 12:22:03 PM
Lee's delivery live was far stronger.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 22, 2010, 12:28:39 PM
Anneke's delivery is far superior to hers, however.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 12:55:57 PM
Anneke?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 22, 2010, 01:42:19 PM
I must say that I kinda like Lee's vocals on the new album, whilst I hated them on A Natural Disaster (I do not like the title track btw). She has definitely improved a lot.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 01:53:52 PM
Do you like AND live?

edit: also, Sleepless from Serenades live was so awesome with sung vocals :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2010, 02:42:23 PM
They didn't play Summernight Horizon?  :( :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on May 22, 2010, 04:02:35 PM
Ugh. Still over a week until release.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 04:08:27 PM
They didn't play Summernight Horizon?  :( :sadpanda:

No, but they did play everything else off that album bar Hindsight and Get off get out. I was so happy they played Universal over Hindsight, I think it's the stronger long song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2010, 04:21:45 PM
Ye but i mean, if they HAD to leave something out, they should pick Angels walk among us and Dreaming Light. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 22, 2010, 04:57:42 PM
Ye but i mean, if they HAD to leave something out, they should pick Angels walk among us and Dreaming Light. :P
whatwhatWHAAAT? Dreaming Light might be my favorite song of the album!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2010, 05:54:16 PM
Ye but i mean, if they HAD to leave something out, they should pick Angels walk among us and Dreaming Light. :P

1) they are some of the best on the album
2) they were amazing live
3) dreaming light was fucking incredible live
4) dreaming light live where vinnie couldn't hear shit was incredible live
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 23, 2010, 03:25:12 AM
I'm not saying it's 2 bad songs, but they're probably the songs i like the least on the album. (still being awesome)
Hindsight and Summernight Horizon are superior. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SPNKr on May 23, 2010, 03:36:13 AM
Glad you enjoyed Anathema up close and personal, faemir :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 04:32:41 AM
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed they didn't play Hindsight and Get Off, Get Out tbh

I should have taken my camera, could actually have taken some pretty awesome pics
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 05:13:53 AM
The review is up: https://benfyffereviews.blogspot.com/2010/05/evening-with-anathema-islington-academy.html (https://benfyffereviews.blogspot.com/2010/05/evening-with-anathema-islington-academy.html)

Was debating what mark to give it but gave them the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 23, 2010, 06:38:23 AM
Universal > Hindsight.

Nice review btw, my feeling exactly :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 23, 2010, 06:40:11 AM
Universal > Hindsight.

Universal is the best song on the album, so yes. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 06:54:05 AM
Universal > Hindsight.

Nice review btw, my feeling exactly :)

Thanks

Whilst I agree with the above statement, I'd still rather have had Hindsight than Sleepless...as was originally planned
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 23, 2010, 06:59:44 AM
It was originally planned?

I would rather Sleepless, because you can't get a clean vocals version of it live and I can't say no to riffage :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 23, 2010, 07:00:33 AM
Sleepless is awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 07:54:47 AM
It was originally planned?

Yeah, I've seen a photo of the setlist and it's on it
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 08:17:05 AM
Danny Cavanagh on my blog:
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thanks dude! nice review! good lad :-)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 23, 2010, 12:13:54 PM
Flying is easily the best song on Hindsight. Wow.

And your signature is broken BiF
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 23, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Fixed.

He didn't say that on the actual blog btw, he just said that when he read the review.
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Imagine if they'd done this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KWYqVCmT2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KWYqVCmT2s)   :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 23, 2010, 04:46:08 PM
How did you tell him about it?

And darn, Pulled under is such a good song! And I forgot they have a dvd!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 23, 2010, 10:30:01 PM
What is everyone's interpretations of the lyrics on WHBWH? It seems to me to be pretty Spiritual, but I have a hard time hearing some of the words, and I can't find a lyrics site that has them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 24, 2010, 03:03:01 AM
How did you tell him about it?

And darn, Pulled under is such a good song! And I forgot they have a dvd!

I've been a lurker there for a while cause it's a good way of finding out about Anathema news but I joined the other day and posted a link to the review. Danny's username is 'Pagan'.
https://soulreaper.net/forumdisplay.php?f=11 (https://soulreaper.net/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
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And yeah, I think I might have to get that DVD, the sound quality's not great on YouTube out of my laptop

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 24, 2010, 04:28:33 AM
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 24, 2010, 07:12:10 AM
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)

I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 24, 2010, 07:19:27 AM
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well anyway there ıs always my dyıng brıde for those who lıke bands to stay the same.


This made me  :rollin
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 24, 2010, 07:39:38 AM
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)

I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 24, 2010, 08:42:09 AM
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)

I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.

I think if the comments they are making actually are stupid (i.e. that there's no guitar on the album) then it's fine but if not it's a bit OTT.
But tbh, the guys know he posts on the forum and they should be a bit more respectful than telling him to his face that they don't think the album is very good or criticising the fact that Ville Vailo is on the album (totally uncalled for, I mean I don't like HIM at all, but suggesting he's only on it to boost record sales when in fact him and Danny are mates is extremely unnecessary).
He could respond to it better but he feels very protective about his work and if he feels the criticisms are unfair he's entitled to say that.

Whilst it would perhaps be better if he wasn't so OTT about it, it is his work and it's great to see an artist so passionate about their work as well as someone who's willing to communicate to their fans so readily (even if in a defensive way).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 24, 2010, 09:18:45 AM
Make sure to read that forum and see how classy Danny acts when there are negative opinions about the album :)

I kinda understand him though, most people and their opinions in that thread are so fail.
Not really. A lot of people also dislike the album, but going out and saying they are stupid for it is quite embarrassing.

Many of the posts sounds like this:
"Judgement and Alternative 4 is the only good albums"
"New album isn't as good as Judgement"
"Judgement and Alternative 4 are my favorite albums of all time, nothing can change that"

Which is just pure fail, because these people have clearly made up their mind before hearing the album even.
Especially the people saying "nothing can top X", how do they know that?
Because they've already made up their minds that the new album WONT be as good as earlier stuff.

Also, that forum is a place for appreciating the band and their music, i don't think comments such as "X sucks" etc. makes any sense, or has any function there whatsoever.
Im not saying you have to like everything by a band, but so many of these people focus on the negative things, instead of pointing out what they really like.
After all, it has taken the band almost 7 years to make this album, and the first comments they get is pretty much "this sucks".

I would've nerdraged even harder then Danny did.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 24, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.

And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 24, 2010, 04:08:05 PM
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.

And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.

A fine day to exit > a natural disaster. =D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 24, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Anathema ranking:

1. WHBWH
2. Judgement
3. A Natural Disaster
4. Fine Day To Exit
5. Alternative 4
6. The Silent Enigma
7. Eternity
8. Serenades
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 24, 2010, 04:47:24 PM
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.

And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.

A fine day to exit > a natural disaster. =D

What about if you imagine Lee isn't on AND?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 24, 2010, 04:48:59 PM
Flying just broke top 10 Anathema songs, I wonder where it'll stop.

And screw the haters, the new Anathema is easily better than Alternative 4, and slightly better than Judgement :) A Fine Day To Exit is definitely the worst recent album (well 'recent'). I wish they have played release live though, I do LOVE that song.

A fine day to exit > a natural disaster. =D

What about if you imagine Lee isn't on AND?

No need for that...I am now DTF's official Lee Douglas defendant!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 24, 2010, 05:12:11 PM
Oh sorry, I thought you were Voxyn for some reason. I like Lee :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 25, 2010, 04:09:10 AM
My ranking would look something like this:

1. WHBWH
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2. Judgement
3. A Fine Day to Exit
4. The Silent Enigma
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5. Alternative 4
6. Eternity
7. A Natural Disaster
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8. Serenades
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 25, 2010, 05:39:05 AM
Why is A Natural Disaster so low?! :angry:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 25, 2010, 06:03:04 AM
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"Because it's got Lee Douglas on it"

Sorry, that's not my line  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 25, 2010, 07:06:42 AM
Why is A Natural Disaster so low?! :angry:

I don't know tbh, it does have some great songs. :O
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on May 25, 2010, 08:27:08 AM
I bought AND, Judgement and Fine Day To Exit at the same time and at first AND stuck out as the weakest of the three by a mile.

However it's grown on me hugely. I used to really dislike 'Flying' and 'Are You There?', which are now 2 of my faves off the album. Hell, I even didn't like 'Pulled Under At 2000 Metres Per Second' at first  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on May 25, 2010, 09:21:58 AM
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"Because it's got Lee Douglas on it"

Sorry, that's not my line  :facepalm:
Could be something I said :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 25, 2010, 10:22:06 AM
Are You There? is actually one of my least-favorite songs by Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on May 25, 2010, 10:28:26 AM
My order shipped today. :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 25, 2010, 11:52:52 AM
I don't really like Are You There? Though live solo by Danny it sounded really good.

You didn't like Flying?

(https://dewdude.net/files/2010/03/STFU_and_GTFO.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 26, 2010, 04:42:36 PM
Watching Were You There?

It's quite good, but i'm glad I got it cheap to be honest. Vinny seems pretty weak this night, certainly far worse than last week. Lee was worse but was only on a few songs so that didn't matter too much. And while Danny's singing was fine (except Were You there? felt a bit weak compared to his impromptu one when I saw them), his stage presence was loads weaker. At my gig he was...well showing off and  getting the crowd going. On here he just stands there.

Hearing Release and Pulled Under... was amazing though, I missed not hearing them live. One Last Goodbye almost made me tear up too :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on May 29, 2010, 04:20:59 AM
What is Serenades like?

Why do people rate Silent Enigma and Eternity so low? I think they massively atmospheric albums.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2010, 06:51:00 AM
What is Serenades like?

Why do people rate Silent Enigma and Eternity so low? I think they massively atmospheric albums.


Serenades is... different.
Vinnie doesn't sing, and the vocals are mostly growls.
However, i do think "Sleepless" is a top10 Anathema-song.

Also, i love both The Silent Enigma and Eternity, 2 of the more overlooked albums in the discography, they're both amazing.  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 29, 2010, 03:57:16 PM
I swear Vinnie does sing, else who is doing the clean vocals on Serenades?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2010, 04:11:52 PM
I swear Vinnie does sing, else who is doing the clean vocals on Serenades?

Darren White is credited for all the vocals, and he sings the clean-parts as well.
However, Vinnie sings on the 96' version from The Silent Enigma. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on May 31, 2010, 04:36:11 AM
I heard an insturmental version of the Silent Enigma somewhere and I can't remember where I got it from. It's not on the CDs I have so where on earth did I hear it? I'm thinking some casette version.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 31, 2010, 04:44:14 AM
I heard an insturmental version of the Silent Enigma somewhere and I can't remember where I got it from. It's not on the CDs I have so where on earth did I hear it? I'm thinking some casette version.

Do you mean the orchestral-version?
Cause that one is instrumental, and you can find it on the reissue of The Silent Enigma. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on May 31, 2010, 04:44:55 AM
This is the only thing I ever heard by Darren White:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM05AtNPFSM
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on May 31, 2010, 04:47:21 AM
I heard an insturmental version of the Silent Enigma somewhere and I can't remember where I got it from. It's not on the CDs I have so where on earth did I hear it? I'm thinking some casette version.

Do you mean the orchestral-version?
Cause that one is instrumental, and you can find it on the reissue of The Silent Enigma. :P
Yes and Sleepless 96 but I can't remember owning the reissue so maybe it was on a vinyl version?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 01, 2010, 05:10:21 AM
Just received the album through the mail. Artwork is very Steven Wilson-esque but still awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on June 01, 2010, 05:31:45 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 01, 2010, 05:47:58 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.

Just OK?
It's one of the best albums this decade. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 01, 2010, 05:51:48 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.

Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 01, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
Now that I've heard it on CD and on full volume, I like it even better.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 01, 2010, 06:35:38 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.

Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?

They're not especially similar bands. Anathema are much better though of course.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on June 01, 2010, 09:30:33 AM
Frankly when I first heard Anathema their softer moody sections reminded me EXACTLY of that side of Riverside.

And Riverside > Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 01, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
I'm mega annoyed with Riverside still tbh, their first 2 albums were really good but I just think the last 2 have been mega disappointments.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 01, 2010, 09:57:44 AM
Though being 2 completely different bands, i'd say i love Anathema more then Riverside.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on June 01, 2010, 11:31:47 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.

Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?

there's a difference?....I'd lump these guys in with Karnivool as well....and again...not quite as tight musically. Sorry...if I'm genre blending here....they all seem pretty similar to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 01, 2010, 11:36:01 AM
Im spinning We're Here....

I dunno...it's ok....but it's no Riverside.

Why are you comparing alt rock to prog rock?

there's a difference?....I'd lump these guys in with Karnivool as well....and again...not quite as tight musically. Sorry...if I'm genre blending here....they all seem pretty similar to me.

I can see why you'd say Riverside and Anathema are the same genre...but the 'Vool sound nothing like either of them, that one just confuses me.

Imagine how much simpler the world would be without genres!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on June 01, 2010, 11:45:09 AM
That would be pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: YtseBitsySpider on June 01, 2010, 11:45:49 AM
Highschool would have been simpler...that's for sure.

Im not insulting the music, I guess I found them similar enough......subtleties......not spidies's strong suit.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 01, 2010, 11:48:14 AM
Though being 2 completely different bands, i'd say i love Anathema more then Riverside.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 01, 2010, 02:01:32 PM
Just got my copy of WHBWH in the mail, can't wait to hear the 5.1 mix!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 02, 2010, 09:25:18 AM
I kinda stopped listening to this album when RSOne came out. Now that I got it on CD, I'm addicted to it again.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 02, 2010, 09:39:51 AM
I kinda stopped listening to this album when RSOne came out. Now that I got it on CD, I'm addicted to it again.

 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 02, 2010, 09:43:28 AM
Universal is so amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 02, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
The 5.1 mix of this album is heavenly.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2010, 03:28:31 AM
Got my copy of the album yesterday. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on June 03, 2010, 04:33:46 AM
Listened to a song from their first demo at the weekend. Sounded good to be honest and very similar to early My Dying Bride (e.g. Turn loose the swans)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 03, 2010, 04:59:24 AM
I got an email today saying my copy had been dispatched...yet it arrived on Saturday!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on June 03, 2010, 08:59:13 AM
My (limited) CD arrived today, the vinyl is still on the way. Will listen in the evening :azn:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on June 03, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
I got the album yesterday but between shit having to get done and the hockey game I got 1 half assed listen in. I hope to rectify things tonight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 04, 2010, 04:43:22 AM
I got a 2ND copy of this today from Buring Shed... ::)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on June 04, 2010, 11:52:09 AM
I got my copy a few days ago. This album being my first exposure to this group, I am beyond pleased.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on June 06, 2010, 09:34:03 AM
This album just keeps getting better with every listen!


I've had the CD in my car for a few days and the music feels like I'm flying through clouds, winged unicorns, rainbows made of dreams, and small planets straight into the sun.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on June 06, 2010, 09:47:24 AM
I don't know if I'm 100% sold on the strength of the songwriting just yet, but this album is certainly a sonic treat. Great job there by the band and Steven Wilson.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 06, 2010, 11:05:17 AM
The album has only fantastic songs, it's not only my favorite Anathema-album, these 10 songs would all place in a top15 anathema songs. =D
Also, it has already become one of my fav albums ever.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: limnides on June 06, 2010, 03:01:03 PM
Riverside & Porcupine Tree, yes.
Riverside & Anathema, no.  Well.  Prior to this album.  Now I'm not so sure.

I can't say I'm disappointed with the new album, 'cause I'm not.  Per se.  I'm just... I d'know.  I need to think of it as something other than the Anathema I fell for (Alternative 4, Judgement).

...If I think of it as a hybrid of Porcupine Tree and Anathema it's easier to listen to.  I need to give it a few more spins, though.


and this'll do as a re-re-introduction of myself, 'cause I keep finding and losing this forum.  Hah.  :B
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 10:48:21 AM
They sent me a second copy of this album.. win? (I only bought one)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on June 07, 2010, 10:50:43 AM
Damn, I wanted to like that album so much. It's been on my most anticipated list for years and when it finally came out I couldn't care less. Can't connect with it on any level, which is weird because listening to Anathema albums has always been an amazing musical and emotional journey for me.
I envy you guys so much :( Any specific reason you like it so much compared to their other albums?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 10:54:07 AM
Damn, I wanted to like that album so much. It's been on my most anticipated list for years and when it finally came out I couldn't care less. Can't connect with it on any level, which is weird because listening to Anathema albums has always been an amazing musical and emotional journey for me.
I envy you guys so much :( Any specific reason you like it so much compared to their other albums?

It just sounds beautiful.. It's engaging, it's emotional, it's spiritual, and it's musically just an amazing all around journey.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 07, 2010, 12:08:05 PM
I prefer the sound to the old Anathema songs, Vinny's vocals have gotten better, Lee's a great singer now, there isn't a single weak song.

I Don't know, it just feels like it's a culmination of their hard for the past few years - there isn't a moment on the album that I don't love.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on June 07, 2010, 12:13:28 PM
It just doesn't feel like an Anathema album to me. Completely different feel to it. I remember reading an interview where they were thinking about changing the name of the band because it no longer connects with them and how they feel, their musical direction and so on but ultimately decided not to. I was happy about that at the time but now I definitely see why they were thinking about it.
It's not like I hate the album, I don't think I even dislike it. It's just as if the album was never made if that makes sense. I still hope it brings even more people to the band and more success, they sure deserve it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2010, 12:14:16 PM
Damn, I wanted to like that album so much. It's been on my most anticipated list for years and when it finally came out I couldn't care less. Can't connect with it on any level, which is weird because listening to Anathema albums has always been an amazing musical and emotional journey for me.
I envy you guys so much :( Any specific reason you like it so much compared to their other albums?

The songwriting has become so much better, and for the first time ever they aren't making depressive/makes me want to cry-music.
The songs are just so much more powerful, and the whole uplifting atmosphere of the album is just phenomenal.
As i said earlier, all of these songs would make a top15 Anathema songs if i made one, because even though i love their earlier works, this is so well polished & well executed, that i would pick it over Judgement or Alternative 4 any day.
There's not a dull moment on the album, and even though i was a bit skeptical towards Dreaming Light/Everything/Angels Walk Among Us at first, they have grown lots on me.
Beautiful numbers.
Universal, Summernight Horizon and Thin Air would be my 3 fav. Anathema songs, with Hindsight and A Simple Mistake not far behind.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 07, 2010, 12:16:16 PM
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2010, 12:18:12 PM
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM

Depends totally on what side of the band you like, i guess you're one of the softies.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 07, 2010, 12:20:48 PM
Thin Air, Summernight Horizon, Dreaming Light, Everything, Angels Walk Amongst Us, Presence, A Simple Mistake, Get Off Get Out, Universal, Hindsight is the best run of the album
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 07, 2010, 12:25:20 PM
The best run on the album is "Thin Air" through "Hindsight"
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 07, 2010, 12:27:46 PM
Yaha, I said that first
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 07, 2010, 12:39:53 PM
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM

Depends totally on what side of the band you like, i guess you're one of the softies.  :biggrin:

Well Pulled Under used to be my fav song so not really
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2010, 12:43:56 PM
GTFO EVERYTHING DREAMING LIGHT AND ANGELS WALK AMONG US IS THE BEST RUN OF THE ALBUM

Depends totally on what side of the band you like, i guess you're one of the softies.  :biggrin:

Well Pulled Under used to be my fav song so not really

I rest my case.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 07, 2010, 12:46:11 PM
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blush
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 07, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blush

Yeah, John's blastbeates on OLG are awesome
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 07, 2010, 01:33:54 PM
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blush
Hurrah. Still my favorite Anathema song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 07, 2010, 01:35:32 PM
Well now it's probably One Last Goodbye, that's kinda heavy...right? :blush
Hurrah. Still my favorite Anathema song.

I think it's just one of those songs. Just universally great songs that you should appreciate no matter what kind of music you're most into.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on June 09, 2010, 02:21:11 PM
Not much sign of them going back down the metal route then it seems.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 09, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2010, 02:42:37 PM
Metal sucks. *runs*
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 09, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
Run far and run quickly
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on June 09, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho

I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 09, 2010, 03:34:36 PM
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho

I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.

But PL wrote better metal songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on June 09, 2010, 09:33:37 PM
If I loved WHBWH, then what other Anathema albums would I like?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on June 09, 2010, 10:21:56 PM
Judgment without a doubt (Its the best album that they have, IMO) and A Fine Day to Exit are two CDs that you might like. They're however more dark and obscure than WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: UnutterableSquid on June 09, 2010, 10:32:32 PM
How is it that We're Here Because We're Here keeps sounding better each time that I listen to it?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on June 10, 2010, 12:13:17 AM
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho

I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.

But PL wrote better metal songs.
They only wrote metal songs until around 1994 then they went into some weird dance music phase until clawing back what they arguably shouldn't have left in the early 2000s. Anathema kept with metal arguably until Judgement. God knows what happened to them. I don't dislike their music now, just think that they were a quality and unique metal band who have seem to have abandoned the genre.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on June 10, 2010, 01:37:10 AM
Why would they?
They're better at what they do now whereas when they were an out and out metal band they were a bit like a poor man's Paradise Lost imho

I thought they were powerful and distinctive and preferred them over Paradise Lost. PL's lyrics seemed very convoluted whereas Anathema had some depth and clarity to them.

But PL wrote better metal songs.
They only wrote metal songs until around 1994 then they went into some weird dance music phase until clawing back what they arguably shouldn't have left in the early 2000s. Anathema kept with metal arguably until Judgement. God knows what happened to them. I don't dislike their music now, just think that they were a quality and unique metal band who have seem to have abandoned the genre.

Tbh, I'd say that Anathema stopped  being a metal band after Silent Enigma.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 10, 2010, 05:13:29 AM
Newer Anathema > older Anathema by far
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: limnides on June 10, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
How is it that We're Here Because We're Here keeps sounding better each time that I listen to it?
As much as I'd rather sit here and sulk about how they've gone soft and happy, I do have to agree with you.  The album is growing on me, and rather quickly at that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 12, 2010, 11:30:33 AM
If I loved WHBWH, then what other Anathema albums would I like?

Just listen to the 4 albums before it, you'll like them all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 16, 2010, 12:46:02 PM
I just listened to We're Here... again. I still can't believe how amazing this album is. The only song I don't love is 'Get off, Get out' but even that song is growing on me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 16, 2010, 01:39:27 PM
I just listened to We're Here... again. I still can't believe how amazing this album is. The only song I don't love is 'Get off, Get out' but even that song is growing on me.

Same, but with Dreaming Light instead of Get off Get Out. :>
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 16, 2010, 05:41:40 PM
Same, but with Dreaming Light instead of Get off Get Out. :>

Seriously...what?! That was the song that grabbed my attention first :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 16, 2010, 07:17:13 PM
Well, not here.
But it's growing, and i really like it. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on July 02, 2010, 12:24:45 PM
Guys, why does the Make Right (F.F.S.) have the keyboard sound that sounds so Dream Theatre Awake-era that it's scary?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on July 02, 2010, 12:30:48 PM
Guys, why does the Make Right (F.F.S.) have the keyboard sound that sounds so Dream Theatre Awake-era that it's scary?
Probably because Kevin Moore.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on July 03, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
I'm far from an Anathema fan, but maybe I'm starting to get somewhere. 'We're here because we're here' owns my soul, hard. I love this stuff. Inspires me to write music with my band, I really want us to write music that's as honest as Anathema's.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on July 04, 2010, 06:33:49 AM
Nice to see people getting into Anathema more :) Try to see them live if you can, great stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on July 06, 2010, 04:52:55 PM
Nice to see people getting into Anathema more :) Try to see them live if you can, great stuff.

I've seen them live, twice actually. Both times they were opening up for Porcupine Tree. They're pretty good live, but nothing was as awesome as playing 'Flying' at the end of their set. Anyone who has witnessed that must know what I'm talking about. Such a dramatic way to leave the stage, but oh so classy as well.

I've always liked Anathema, but never enough to adore them. They have their fair share of monumental songs, but this new record of full of those.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 06, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
I'm glad they are finally getting some attention on DTF, after I have been promoting them for years :p.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on July 06, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
I find it interesting that apparently Lady Gaga is more popular here than Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on July 07, 2010, 02:40:38 PM
I find it interesting that apparently Lady Gaga is more popular here than Anathema.

Surely that isn't surprising?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on July 07, 2010, 03:40:55 PM
This is rapidly growing to be one of my favorite bands at the moment. Thanks TheVoxyn  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: sonatafanica on July 07, 2010, 03:52:43 PM
This new album definitely took me by surprise.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 09, 2010, 05:14:05 AM
This is rapidly growing to be one of my favorite bands at the moment. Thanks TheVoxyn  :tup
:tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Darkes7 on July 09, 2010, 05:54:16 AM
I need to listen to it after I come back from seeing PT on 17th (as then my listening would be inevitably interrupted by an intense PT phase, like in case of every concerts). I heard some bits and pieces when my family was listening and definitely liked what I heard.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 09, 2010, 06:41:57 AM
Tbh, WHBWH is better then most of the PT-albums.
The only issue i have because of this, is that Judgement and Alternative 4 will never sound as great again.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on July 21, 2010, 03:49:39 AM
So far I've found about 2 or 3 songs on the new album to be quite good. But I still much prefer their earlier music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on August 07, 2010, 08:55:22 AM
After the initial indifference to the album I decided to check it out again at work the other day. Put on the headphones, got the lyrics out and surprisingly almost every song started to mean something to me. Right now, Get Off, Get Out is the only one I can say that I dislike to some extent.
I don't know if it's just the distance I took from the band and their music since they released the album or just because I could finally interpret the music and part of the lyrics in my own way that made the songs a lot more personal to me, something that has happened right off the bat with their previous work. I can certainly see how this could attract new listeners, it is a lot more fresh and maybe the more optimistic nature of the songs helps a lot but underneath you can still hear the old Anathema.

Still, I wouldn't rate it above anything in they released between 1998-2003 but right now I would still give it  a 5/5 star rating. Thin Air and especially the songs from Everything to Simple Mistake are some of their absolute best. Universal is awesome as well and Hindsight is the perfect closer for this album.
I'm so glad this happened, I hated the thought of not liking Anathema's music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 07, 2010, 09:00:13 AM
Glad to hear it clicked for you  :tup. I've listened to the album A LOT now, and I still love it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: InTheNameOfGod on September 11, 2010, 08:37:24 AM
Just discovered this band.

New album is amazing. Absolutely brilliant stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on October 06, 2010, 06:54:28 PM
Playing the new album in 5.1 for the first time in a while. Man, it's still just as amazing as it was the first time I heard it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on October 07, 2010, 01:05:49 AM
I'm just now starting to like the latest album. It's probably the only album I didn't like immediately.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 07, 2010, 02:30:09 AM
I'm just now starting to like the latest album. It's probably the only album I didn't like immediately.

Really?
Was pretty much the opposite for me.  :biggrin:
I had to listen to Judgement at least 9-10 times before it clicked.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 07, 2010, 02:53:52 AM
Seeing them again next week :D.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on October 07, 2010, 08:22:47 AM
I'm just now starting to like the latest album. It's probably the only album I didn't like immediately.

Really?
Was pretty much the opposite for me.  :biggrin:
I had to listen to Judgement at least 9-10 times before it clicked.

Yep. Judgement had me hooked at the first track. Funny how it works :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on October 07, 2010, 10:03:10 AM
Gone off the new album a little bit. Get Off, Get Out is just not quite up to the standard I don't think.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 14, 2010, 09:38:07 AM
I'm currently sitting in the train on my way to Anathema. I really cannot wait to hear Dreaming Light.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 14, 2010, 09:45:40 AM
I'm currently sitting in the train on my way to Anathema. I really cannot wait to hear Dreaming Light.

I wanna see them live so badly, but they aren't visiting Sweden on this tour.  :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 14, 2010, 03:47:57 PM
Fuuu, that was epic.

I was all the way in the front, so I could already see the setlist. It was pretty long and I could only think of one song that was missing; are you there? Well, in the end they decided to add 2 more songs to the list, of which one was an acoustic version of 'Are you There?'. I smiled in my pants.

I'm glad they didn't decide to add even more though, I wouldve missed the last train back :p.

I'll post the setlist once I get home, or otherwise tomorrow. I can already reveal that it is near-perfect though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 15, 2010, 09:08:27 AM
Nice! I was half frontrow half second row for my show when I saw them live :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 15, 2010, 12:05:20 PM
Setlist:

Deep 
Pitiless 
Forgotten Hopes 
Destiny Is Dead 
Balance 
Closer 
Lost Control 
Empty 
One Last Goodbye 
Flying 

Thin Air 
Summernight Horizon 
Dreaming Light 
Everything 
Angels Walk Among Us 
Presence 
A Simple Mistake 
Get Off, Get Out 
Universal 
Hindsight 

Are You There? 
Sleepless 
A Natural Disaster 
Fragile Dreams
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 15, 2010, 12:27:20 PM
Dear god, what a setlist.  :hefdaddy
Though, if i COULD switch it around, i would probably do this:

Out:
Destiny is Dead
Empty
Are You There?

In:
Regret
Underworld
A Fine Day to Exit

Something from The Silent Enigma would've been ace too, maybe the title-track. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on October 15, 2010, 03:46:40 PM
Nothing from Silent Enigma or even Eternity then?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 15, 2010, 03:56:22 PM
Nothing from Silent Enigma or even Eternity then?
I guess not.

Dear god, what a setlist.  :hefdaddy
Though, if i COULD switch it around, i would probably do this:

Out:
Destiny is Dead
Empty
Are You There?

In:
Regret
Underworld
A Fine Day to Exit

Something from The Silent Enigma would've been ace too, maybe the title-track. ;)
Are You There and Empty are awesome :O. I especially wouldn't want to miss Are You There. Danny playing it acoustic is amazing. I was so happy when he came on stage and did that song, I wasn't expecting them to make the setlist even longer.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 15, 2010, 04:20:14 PM
Since as steam is being lame, here is the difference between mine and your gigs Voxyn:

I got:

Inner Silence
Judgement
Panic
Temporary Peace
Shroud of False

You got:

Balance
Summernight Horizon
Get Off, Get Out

(so I got one song more)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 15, 2010, 04:31:36 PM
Dammit. I would've liked to see Temporary Peace.

Whilst I don't really like Get Off, Get Out on the album, it was pretty cool live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 15, 2010, 04:36:58 PM
We got panic too :metal though I would love to see summernight horizon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 15, 2010, 04:46:44 PM
I've seen them live before, but not since WHBWH was released. So I'm really happy that they played the whole album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on October 16, 2010, 08:33:32 AM
I downloaded Judgement from itunes last night.

Holy effin shit. That has to be one of the most depressing, darkest, emotional, melancholy, gloomy albums ever made. Naturally, I loved it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on October 16, 2010, 12:10:04 PM
Been listening to Hindsight [Album] over the last weeks. It might be the best re-recorded songs compilation ever made. EVAR.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on October 16, 2010, 01:25:14 PM
I downloaded Judgement from itunes last night.

Holy effin shit. That has to be one of the most depressing, darkest, emotional, melancholy, gloomy albums ever made. Naturally, I loved it.
Been listening to Hindsight [Album] over the last weeks. It might be the best re-recorded songs compilation ever made. EVAR.
:tup :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 16, 2010, 07:51:06 PM
I ripped my 24bit 5.1 FLACs off the DVD-A just now, and I'm actually listening to the 5.1 mix for the first time ever - Thin Air has stunning vocal work, layers of vocals on all speakers =  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on January 14, 2011, 11:19:04 AM
I have Vincent Cavanagh's phone number now. I feel special.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on January 23, 2011, 03:20:30 AM
First anathema album purchased (Judgement). Pretty good.. Deep  :metal and One Last Goodbye  :eek

Going to try and avoid any of their "doom" stuff, but being lazy and not looking through the thread, what's should I purchase next?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on January 23, 2011, 03:33:42 AM
You might as well buy "We're Here Because We're Here", their newest record, next. It's their best.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on January 23, 2011, 03:35:34 AM
Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 23, 2011, 04:04:12 AM
I'd say all of their albums (except for Serenades) are gold.
The Silent Enigma is just as good as Judgement and Alternative 4 imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on February 10, 2011, 04:04:24 PM
And it feels like we're ALREADY FLYING.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on February 11, 2011, 01:19:15 AM
 :heart

Also, grats on 7000 posts TheVoxyn.  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on February 24, 2011, 08:50:16 AM
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9 (https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9)
Anathema live review I did for Stereoboard.com

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on February 24, 2011, 08:52:25 AM
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9 (https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9)
Anathema live review I did for Stereoboard.com


Good read  :tup.

Saw them a couple of times live now and they are pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on February 24, 2011, 09:46:00 AM
The inequity of fate

I love that opening  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 24, 2011, 11:11:03 AM
https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9 (https://www.stereoboard.com/content/view/163653/9)
Anathema live review I did for Stereoboard.com
all of WHBWH and the opening suite of Judgement? god damn!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on February 25, 2011, 03:17:11 AM
Yep, they were playing that throughout the whole tour, pretty epic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on February 25, 2011, 11:33:11 AM
I have become absolutely obsessed with Anathema. I think they're probably my favorite band right now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 06, 2011, 07:33:03 AM
I bought the reissue of The Silent Enigma recently. Great doom! :metal I'll probably get Eternity or Alternative 4 next.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 28, 2011, 02:01:15 PM
Petter Carlsen (who opened for Anathema last tour) just posted this on facebook:

Quote
Epic stuff. My main man and favourite producer Christer André Cederberg is currently in the Studio producing my favorites ANATHEMA - official band page next album or ep or what comes out of it. I can't wait to hear the result!

There were already messages of a new EP around the time WHBWH came out, but this seems to confirm that there is something on the way :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: bodiesinflight on March 28, 2011, 02:41:36 PM
Petter Carlsen (who opened for Anathema last tour) just posted this on facebook:

Quote
Epic stuff. My main man and favourite producer Christer André Cederberg is currently in the Studio producing my favorites ANATHEMA - official band page next album or ep or what comes out of it. I can't wait to hear the result!

There were already messages of a new EP around the time WHBWH came out, but this seems to confirm that there is something on the way :).

yeah I did an interview with Vince a couple of months back and he confirmed that there would be a new EP soon
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on March 28, 2011, 02:52:38 PM
Fuck yes :caffeine:

I'm still obsessed with this band. Wow. I think Judgement is already one of my favorite albums of all time. Their whole catalog is just  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on May 28, 2011, 08:16:30 PM
So this band needs more love. Starting like right now.

EDIT: album rankings

A Natural Disaster
We're Here Because We're Here
Judgement
Alternative 4
A Fine Day to Exit
Eternity

haven't heard the other two
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on May 28, 2011, 08:26:00 PM
Hmm....

Judgement
We're Here Because We're Here
Alternative 4
A Fine Day to Exit
A Natural Disaster
Eternity
The Silent Enigma
Serenades

Something like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on May 28, 2011, 08:27:56 PM
I really really love A Natural Disaster. Probably more than most other people for some reason. I just love songs like the title track, Flying, and Violence.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on May 28, 2011, 08:30:31 PM
AND is a fantastic album. I'd say it and AFDTE are equal with each other in my book. Everything from Eternity and onward is gold.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 28, 2011, 08:34:13 PM
Oh, nice, I don't think I've ranked Anathema albums recently.

Alternative 4 (first album I ever heard from them, the first song was A4 - instant fan)
Judgement
A Natural Disaster
A Fine Day to Exit
We're Here Because We're Here
Eternity

don't care about the first two.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on May 28, 2011, 08:38:12 PM
WHBWH so low? :( It was the best album of 2010 (or really close)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 28, 2011, 08:51:32 PM
It was a huge disappointment at first but it grew on me few months after it came out but still it's nowhere near as good as their other material. Doesn't hold over time for me and I barely listen to it again.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 28, 2011, 11:47:22 PM
I need to listen more so I can rank the albums. At the moment I have The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and A Fine Day to Exit. I also just ordered Alternative 4 and Serenades. I think my favorite out of the ones that I currently have is Judgement. Everyone should hear The Silent Enigma, some songs drag on too long (I HATE Cerulean Twilight!), but there are some masterpieces too, especially Restless Oblivion, A Dying Wish and the title-track!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Silent Cody on May 29, 2011, 12:15:03 AM
Couple of days ago I listened to Judgement again because I forgot how great album is that... Great tracks, I have almost every Anathema album, I have to take some time off to listen to the Guys, because it's definitly worth it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2011, 04:14:11 AM
We're Here Because We're Here
Judgement
A Fine Day to Exit
The Silent Enigma
A Natural Disaster
Alternative 4
Eternity
----
Serenades
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on May 29, 2011, 04:53:01 AM
We're Here Because We're Here
A Natural Disaster
Judgement
A Fine Day To Exit
Alternative 4

Haven't heard the rest...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on May 29, 2011, 05:15:22 AM
WHBHW = Judgement > AND > Alternative 4 > the rest
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 31, 2011, 06:47:58 AM
My thoughts during the first listen of Alternative 4: :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 31, 2011, 06:50:31 AM
Alternative 4 is an amazing album indeed. :)
Regret still remains my favorite from that album, even though the title-track is pretty close.
And let's not forget other classics like Lost Control, Fragile Dreams and Empty. (to name a few)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on May 31, 2011, 08:38:01 AM
I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 31, 2011, 08:38:57 AM
I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing

I agreed before WHBWH
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on May 31, 2011, 08:39:58 AM
I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing

I agreed before WHBWH
They're equally good in quality(that is, fuckin' amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing), but I like depressing music more than happy music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 31, 2011, 08:41:14 AM
I actually do think Judgement is their best album. It's just so perfectly depressing

I agreed before WHBWH
They're equally good in quality(that is, fuckin' amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing), but I like depressing music more than happy music.

Me too, but WHBWH is just that much better.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on May 31, 2011, 09:08:17 AM
Hmm yeah Hindsight is Anathema's best song IMO, but the flow in Judgement  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 31, 2011, 09:33:46 AM
Alternative 4 is now my favorite album, although Judgement still ranks high for me. I even like Serenades, but I guess it's because I'm used to growls. Darren White, however wasn't a very good vocalist, I'm glad he was fired.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 31, 2011, 10:05:20 AM
I'd kinda say that Judgement and WHBWH are equally fantastic, I'd say that WHBWH probably has the higher highs (or more highs) with songs like Universal, Hindsight and Thin Air, though Judgement is more solid all the way through.
WHBWH does have a few minor issues for me, Everything's chorus being slightly too repetitive and annoying at times, and even though Dreaming Light is great, I feel like Anathema has made better songs in the same vein as that one.

So yeah, would rank them pretty much equally great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nikatapi on May 31, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
To me their best album is The Silent Enigma. It has so much emotion, and is one of the best doom-death albums i've ever heard.
I continue to like their work, but i never get this dark feeling and atmosphere of the older albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on May 31, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
Judgement easily stands out to me as their best album and my favorite. It's just filled with so much darkness and emotion. Evey song is heart-wrenching.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on May 31, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
Judgement easily stands out to me as their best album and my favorite. It's just filled with so much darkness and emotion. Evey song is heart-wrenching.

One Last Goodbye :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on May 31, 2011, 01:16:53 PM
Judgement easily stands out to me as their best album and my favorite. It's just filled with so much darkness and emotion. Evey song is heart-wrenching.

One Last Goodbye :heart
Anyone Anywhere  :heart :heart :heart :heart :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 31, 2011, 04:11:19 PM
TRANSACOUSTIC
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 07, 2011, 03:02:29 PM
Really digging A Natural Disaster as of late, just reaffirming this band's position as my 4th favorite. God this album has amazing flow.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on June 07, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
THE FLOW MANG
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 07, 2011, 03:03:59 PM
THE FLOW MANG
Well, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2011, 03:06:46 PM
THE FLOW MANG
Well, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.

The Silent Enigma has just as good flow as the following albums though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 07, 2011, 03:07:52 PM
THE FLOW MANG
Well, all of Anathema's albums have god-tier flow(at least the non-doom metal ones), but AND especially.

The Silent Enigma has just as good flow as the following albums though.
Yeah but A4, Judgement, AND and WHBWH are all amazing albums even without the flow.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
So you're saying that The Silent Enigma and A Fine Day to Exit aren't just as good as those albums?
I lol'd.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 07, 2011, 03:09:52 PM
So you're saying that The Silent Enigma and A Fine Day to Exit aren't just as good as those albums?
I lol'd.  :)
They might be as good, but I like them less
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2011, 03:11:39 PM
I'm honestly not that surprised, so it's cool.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on June 07, 2011, 03:14:31 PM
So you're saying that The Silent Enigma and A Fine Day to Exit aren't just as good as those albums?
I lol'd.  :)

I would agree for Silent Engima, but A Fine Day to Exit is one of their very best. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 08, 2011, 01:31:12 AM
I really like WHBWH! :) It cannot top Alternative 4 and Judgement, but is definitely in my top 3!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 08, 2011, 12:39:22 PM
I'm not waiting 7 years for the next album, hurry up guys!

And I demand a 5.1 mix by Wilson again D:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 08, 2011, 12:44:24 PM
I'm not waiting 7 years for the next album, hurry up guys!
This. They make nothing but amazing albums
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jonny108 on June 15, 2011, 04:55:09 AM
Finally got round to getting We're Here Because We're Here.  My first Anathema album and holy mother fucker of God! It is just awesome. No words. Out of all the albums I've got this year new or old, this blows them all out the water.  Wow!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on June 15, 2011, 04:59:43 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 15, 2011, 03:05:02 PM
I have officially overplayed WHBWH ;_;

I've never done this to an album before. A song or two, but never an album. I hope that it does not last.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 15, 2011, 03:24:18 PM
Anathema is my 4th favorite band now. The way they craft their songs and albums is just amazing. Also, I think that A Natural Disaster is officially the loneliest album in existence, and Judgement the saddest. God I love this band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on June 17, 2011, 12:20:40 PM
Vincent and Danny playing five songs unplugged:

Dreaming Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvIC7oeBl78
Flying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh5a0VByDIs&feature=related
Fragile Dreams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R87_2-MIMHo&feature=related
Working Class Hero(John Lennon) and Exit Music(For A Film)(Radiohead): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da2AJ8PlDI4&feature=related
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on June 17, 2011, 12:22:57 PM
Listening to WHBWH at the moment... still can't believe how amazing the opening set for Blackfield was.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jonny108 on June 17, 2011, 12:26:21 PM
I actually haven't listened to anything else over the past two days, my mind is blown. So much more pumped for High Voltage! I AM SEEING THIS BAND LIVE!!!  :metal  Which album should I get next guyz?  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on June 17, 2011, 12:27:37 PM
Judgment, Alternative 4, or A Natural Disaster. Take your pick, they're all amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on June 17, 2011, 12:28:09 PM
Get Judgement. It's more "rock", and it's more Pink Floyd influenced than WHBWH.

EDIT: What the ninja said...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 17, 2011, 12:57:39 PM
You really can't go wrong with any of them, except for Serenades.
I do enjoy Serenades, but it's so different from Anathema, and it's IMO nowhere near as good quality-wise.
Also, Vinny doesn't sing on that album and it has death growls, so yeah..
It does have one of Anathema's best songs though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on June 17, 2011, 01:56:03 PM
It does have one of Anathema's best songs though.

Sleepless?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 17, 2011, 01:57:00 PM
It does have one of Anathema's best songs though.

Sleepless?

Yus. I prefer the version with Vinny on vocals, but still a fantastic song.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jonny108 on June 17, 2011, 02:09:09 PM
I'll get up Judgement tomorrow when I get some money  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on June 18, 2011, 12:06:48 AM
HEY YOU
ROTTING IN YOUR ALCOHOLIC SHELL
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 18, 2011, 03:16:30 AM
Judgement
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jonny108 on June 25, 2011, 04:33:53 AM
Haven't picked up Judgement :/ I'm still reeling at We're Here Because We're Here.  Has now easily made it into my top 10 albums of all time.  Where the fuck have I been?!  What an incredible band.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on June 25, 2011, 05:02:57 AM
Haven't picked up Judgement :/ I'm still reeling at We're Here Because We're Here.  Has now easily made it into my top 10 albums of all time.  Where the fuck have I been?!  What an incredible band.  :hefdaddy
IMO, Judgement is just a bit better than WHBWH, but yeah, both albums are a-fucking-mazing and god tier. Actually, all albums by Anathema are.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 25, 2011, 06:26:26 AM
Anathema are fantastic, so great to see some love for them.
I would say that I hold WHBWH and Judgement fairly equal, I find WHBWH to have slightly higher highs (Universal is my favorite song by them), but Judgement might be slightly better throughout.
I wouldn't care to rank them, but all albums except for Serenades are really great.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 06, 2011, 12:20:37 PM
So apparently Anathema is releasing another "Hindsight" style album:
https://www.anathema.ws/news.cfm
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 06, 2011, 12:33:21 PM
I am REALLY excited for this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on July 06, 2011, 12:42:47 PM
Lame. I was hoping for new material.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on July 06, 2011, 12:50:20 PM
Lame? I've got four words for you: Anneke van-fucking-Giersbergen!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 06, 2011, 01:10:49 PM
:dangerwillrobinson:

I am excite. Hindsight was fantastic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 06, 2011, 01:12:34 PM
We are getting friggin' SUNSET OF AGE with NEW arrangements.
I AM EXCITE.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on July 06, 2011, 01:33:59 PM
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on July 06, 2011, 01:35:09 PM
Lame? I've got four words for you: Anneke van-fucking-Giersbergen!
Naw girl, I'm still excited for this release. It's my own fault for getting my hopes up for new material, anyway, but that's what I was hoping for. I meant lame in a general sense, not lame as in, "Oh, lame, Anathema."

I'm sure I'll be fapping listening to this album extensively.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on July 06, 2011, 01:35:29 PM
Considering Hindsight is maybe my most listened Anathema album this could be pretty cool.  
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on July 06, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
Lame? I've got four words for you: Anneke van-fucking-Giersbergen!
Naw girl, I'm still excited for this release. It's my own fault for getting my hopes up for new material, anyway, but that's what I was hoping for. I meant lame in a general sense, not lame as in, "Oh, lame, Anathema."

I'm sure I'll be fapping listening to this album extensively.
Well, they did promise that we won't have to wait 50 years again for another -new- album. Here's hoping for 2012!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 07, 2011, 12:37:31 AM
Danny and Vincent had talked about doing this kind of album in some interviews, so I'm not surprised. But I'm definitely happy! :metal I think Danny also mentioned Sleep in Sanity and We, the Gods among songs getting reworked. Maybe the people hating Serenades can start liking those songs now! :lol Everwake with Anneke... :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on July 10, 2011, 07:10:45 AM
I've been doing some research into them seeing as they are opening some shows.

I found out they come from my city which really surprised me and they have been around for ages! I hope they have a word with DT about getting to play there!

Anyone recommend me a starting point for them?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 10, 2011, 09:13:37 AM
Get Judgement and We're Here Because We're Here first and Alternative 4 after those.

EDIT: My personal album ranking (the bottom 4 changes all the time):

Alternative 4
Judgement
We're Here Because We're Here
The Silent Enigma
Eternity
A Fine Day to Exit
Serenades
A Natural Disaster
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 10, 2011, 11:42:47 AM
A Natural Disaster last? Really?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 11, 2011, 12:26:05 AM
Yep, I find AND very inconsistent. There are some great songs like Are You There, Pulled Under... and Flying, but the fillers that drag on too long (Closer, Violence) bring the album down IMO. But as I said, the ranking changes often, so maybe tomorrow I'll prefer AND to Serenades, or AFDTE is at the bottom.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on July 11, 2011, 12:49:56 AM
Closer, Violence <3 <3 <3
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 11, 2011, 04:10:33 AM
Closer, Violence <3 <3 <3
This, i got no idea why you consider these songs, especially Violence, as filler, ?.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 11, 2011, 11:25:04 PM
I think Violence should've ended at the 5-minute mark, the last 5 minutes of it aren't interesting. And Closer is a bit repetitve and they could've used less vocoder in it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on July 12, 2011, 04:14:38 AM
I saw Anathema live last friday together with my brother. I won tickets to the show, otherwise I wouldn't have gone. I'm a casual fan, so. We got stuck in traffic so we were running very late and missed the opening act. Exactly as the opening guitar motif of 'Thin Air' was played, we walked inside. Thank god we were on time, because Thin Air was insane, and it just kept getting better and better as the songs were played.

Well, it was quite the best freakin' gig ever. All of WHBWH was played (with the exception of Get Out Get Off), to our ultimate delight because we both love that record and we're most familiar with it. The other songs we were hoping for, they played as well (A Natural Disaster, Flying, Balance, Closer etc.) There were times my brother and I were looking at eachother, going: Are these guys for real? How come they're so underrated, damn. There was maybe 250 folks in the room. Ridiculous..

The most epic moments when we just got emotionally destroyed were A Natural Disaster, A Simple Mistake and Universal. The ending of Universal sounds like the end of the world on the record, and to actually see the band get into that epic finale was nothing short of mesmerising. And Lee freakin' rules, her voice is beautiful.

Fan for life, no doubt. Gig was amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on July 12, 2011, 04:21:12 AM
I think Violence should've ended at the 5-minute mark, the last 5 minutes of it aren't interesting. And Closer is a bit repetitve and they could've used less vocoder in it.

Maybe, but it worked great live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 12, 2011, 04:33:26 AM
Fan for life, no doubt. Gig was amazing.
I know right. I've seen them three times (last time was for the WHBWH tour) and all three times I was blown away by their awesomeness. Glad you enjoyed it  :laugh:.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on July 12, 2011, 04:41:57 AM
Fan for life, no doubt. Gig was amazing.
I know right. I've seen them three times (last time was for the WHBWH tour) and all three times I was blown away by their awesomeness. Glad you enjoyed it  :laugh:.

Hell yeah. Well, I've seen them twice before, when they were supporting PT. But now it was a headlining gig WITH the new, awesome WHBWH material. Made a huge difference.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on July 15, 2011, 12:10:55 PM
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/3207/

(https://www.burningshed.com/covers/large2533.jpg)

Quote
Kscope is pleased to announce Falling Deeper, the new, fully orchestral album from Anathema. Falling Deeper continues where the acclaimed 2008 album Hindsight left off. The album features brand new arrangements of songs and haunting melodies from the band’s earliest days as pioneers of heavy music.

This is an album which will excite old and new Anathema fans equally. A fresh musical and lyrical approach has transformed songs such as Crestfallen, Kingdom, Sunset Of Age and Everwake, which features the incredible voice of Anneke van Giersbergen.

The record has been produced by Daniel Cavanagh and was recorded and mixed by Andrea Wright at the legendary Parr St Studios, Liverpool (where the likes of Elbow, Coldplay and Echo and the Bunnymen have also recorded albums). The orchestral arrangements are from Dave Stewart who worked so successfully with Anathema on We’re Here Because We’re Here.

Released in 2010, We're Here Because We're Here was awarded Classic Rock’s Prog Album of the Year as well as a host of other accolades.

Formed in Liverpool in 1990, the band’s sound and musical vision has continually evolved while always remaining true to the band’s original goal of creating forward-thinking, meaningful, passionate, and honest music. With each release they moved beyond the boundaries of limited scenes and pigeon holes, creating a complex and emotive atmospheric sound. The producer of WHBWH, Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree), has described it as “definitely among the best albums I’ve ever had the pleasure to work on.”

1.   Crestfallen / Sleep In Sanity
2.   Kingdom
3.   They Die
4.   Sunset of Age
5.   Everwake
6.   We The Gods
7.   I Made A Promise
8.   Alone
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 15, 2011, 12:22:42 PM
Can't wait!
:caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 15, 2011, 12:38:32 PM
I want.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on July 15, 2011, 01:03:01 PM
then go preorder it at Kscope, like i just did xD
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on July 15, 2011, 01:43:22 PM
Quad, we are avatar/sig buddies  :-*.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Quadrochosis on July 15, 2011, 02:22:29 PM
Quad, we are avatar/sig buddies  :-*.
:heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 25, 2011, 01:49:00 PM
Montage for "Falling Deeper", released on Kscope's soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/kscopemusic/anathema-falling-deeper-album-montage
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on July 25, 2011, 01:56:57 PM
OMGYES
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 25, 2011, 02:07:19 PM
Montage for "Falling Deeper", released on Kscope's soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/kscopemusic/anathema-falling-deeper-album-montage
Reposting this on new page
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on July 25, 2011, 04:12:27 PM
That sounded really beautiful. Hindsight is pretty cool and I'm still getting into WHBWH, gorgeous music overall.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on July 25, 2011, 04:12:58 PM
so, so glad i preordered Falling Deeper. sounds even better than i thought it would!

now, if only they'd do a Hindsight + Falling Deeper double vinyl release...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on July 25, 2011, 06:37:08 PM
I am excite. And if one day they decide to re-record/remaster Eternity, I'll come with the force of a thousand suns.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on July 26, 2011, 11:52:43 AM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elsydeon on July 26, 2011, 11:54:54 AM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
Yes you can and you'd be correct
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mechanix1911 on July 26, 2011, 02:50:26 PM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 27, 2011, 04:07:58 AM
Montage for "Falling Deeper", released on Kscope's soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/kscopemusic/anathema-falling-deeper-album-montage
Sounds promising! :tup However, I'm disappointed at the track lengths, some songs are about half shorter than the originals!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elsydeon on July 27, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Angels Walk Among Us is another song from that same album that I think is just absolutely beautiful. Seriously just listen to that whole album, We're here because we're here. It has a lot of songs that are beautiful and uplifting, and I don't think you'll find much stuff like it in their previous albums (Atleast from the ones I've heard)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on July 27, 2011, 08:19:19 PM
It must've been an angel...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on July 27, 2011, 08:23:54 PM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.

Why not the album??
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 28, 2011, 12:13:52 AM
Alright, more listens have been given to WHBWH and I absolutely love it. Awesome atmosphere, really beautiful music, and can I just say Dreaming Light is one of the best songs, ever?
I first heard this song today and I was incredibly mindblown. Is there anything from them along those lines, I'm looking for some specific tunes, not an album. I need some songs to sink into their beautiful melancholic music and get into them.
Some emotional and beautiful Anathema tunes I can recommend:
Angelica
Inner Silence
One Last Goodbye
Temporary Peace
Flying

I picked one from each album without grunts. Those aren't similar to Dreaming Light but definitely worth listening.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2011, 02:41:19 AM
I wouldn't say that The Silent Enigma has grunts, after all it is Vinny singing.
The Silent Enigma as a whole is a masterpiece album, the only one I don't like that much would be Serenades, the rest of the discography is gold.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OskarSluring on July 28, 2011, 03:29:35 AM
I wouldn't say that The Silent Enigma has grunts, after all it is Vinny singing.
The Silent Enigma as a whole is a masterpiece album, the only one I don't like that much would be Serenades, the rest of the discography is gold.
i was listening to "Restless Oblivion" today, he is grunting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2011, 03:58:26 AM
Maybe, but the vocals are much more clean then they are grunt-style throughout the album at least.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 28, 2011, 04:06:21 AM
His vocals on TSE aren't as harsh as Darren's were on Serenades and Crestfallen, but I would definitely count them as growls/screams.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2011, 04:17:26 AM
I'd say the vocals are more raw and there are a few words in most of the songs that he almost screams out in agony, but to even compare it to growl is kinda far fetched IMO.
I mean, with a lot of growl-vocals, you almost need to read the lyrics in order to "aha, that's what he was singing", but Vinny's vocals on TSE are clear at pretty much all times, It's very easy to hear what he is singing.

Also, we haven't done this in a few pages... album-rankings:

1. We're Here Because We're Here
2. Judgement
3. The Silent Enigma
4. A Natural Disaster
5. A Fine Day to Exit
6. Alternative 4
7. Eternity
-----
8. Serenades
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on July 28, 2011, 04:38:57 PM
i wouldn't call them "grunts" either. he yells some. no growling, no real screaming, just agonized yelling. you know — pain! like proggy doom metal should have all over the vocals!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: volwrath on July 29, 2011, 10:12:27 AM
I dont know about this band.  Judgement and AND just always leaves me in a funk after I listen to them.

I think there should be a disclaimer on those albums :) Of course WH reverses this course, so at least Anathema prvides an antidote.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on August 17, 2011, 05:08:57 AM
So, obviously the greatest part of We're Here Because We're Here is when the man keeps on repeating "life is a turtle" :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 17, 2011, 05:53:32 AM
I totally love that song!
Funny enough, my least favorite songs on the album would be Everything and Dreaming Light, but everyone else seem to have such a hard-on for the latter, though I still think it's a good song.

Universal, Thin Air, Hindsight, Summernight Horizon... this band should make new material!
(Though I'm obviously really psyched for Falling Deeper)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on August 17, 2011, 06:16:36 AM
So, obviously the greatest part of We're Here Because We're Here is when the man keeps on repeating "life is a turtle" :neverusethis:

I just can't stand that guy. I really wish he wasn't there, because in my opinion he sticks out like a sore thumb on what would otherwise be a flawless record.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on August 17, 2011, 06:56:59 AM
So, obviously the greatest part of We're Here Because We're Here is when the man keeps on repeating "life is a turtle" :neverusethis:

I just can't stand that guy. I really wish he wasn't there, because in my opinion he sticks out like a sore thumb on what would otherwise be a flawless record.
I really like his voice, it sounds very nice. And somehow what he says feels really... convincing to me even though I'm not exactly a big optimist.

But why did you have to say that? I'll hear this every time now. :lol


Also... listened to Judgement again yesterday, I had only listened to it twice or so before (mistake, I know...). Amazing album... Deep, Parisienne Moonlight and Anyone, Anywhere are my favourites this far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on August 17, 2011, 07:19:48 AM
1) A Natural Disaster

2) We're Here Because We're Here
3) Judgement
4) Alternative 4
5) A Fine Day to Exit

haven't listened to anything else by them yet really
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 17, 2011, 07:55:11 AM
That's slack.
Go get The Silent Enigma and Eternity right away!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on August 20, 2011, 03:49:17 AM
That montage from Falling Deeper sounds really amazing!

So I'd been a bit of a fan of Anathema before, but was never blown away by their stuff (I really liked Judgement and rather liked a couple of albums I'd heard). But a couple of weeks ago I finally got round to hearing WHBWH, and it's just such an amazing album, on a whole different level!

Of course, I checked it out on Spotify, but now the album has been taken off because Kscope are owned by Snapper Music who seem to have followed Century Media's lead and taken most of their music off Spotify. I was thinking of buying myself a copy before, but now out of principal I'm not sure I'll bother. Definitely excited about the new album though!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 20, 2011, 03:55:43 AM
Why wouldn't you buy it?
It is totally worth it!  :tup

I'm quite the Anathema-collector myself, the only "official" releases I can think of that I still need would be: Crestfallen EP, Resonance (1 and 2) and A Moment in Time (DVD).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on August 20, 2011, 04:05:55 AM
Why wouldn't you buy it?

Because retarded record labels are taking their stuff off Spotify. I pay for Spotify premium and was all ready to go and buy the album anyway because I liked it so much, whereas now I feel less inclined to do so and give all my money to the label. I'd much rather go and see them live (which I did at HV and will do again when they next play) and give THEM my money.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 20, 2011, 04:11:43 AM
Ah.
Seeing as I'm one of those who hates Spotify, what it stands for and this whole mp3-generation, it's kinda hard for me to understand that.
For me it's kinda obvious to buy albums by artists I love, so yeah... we could really discuss this for hours, and I'd still be all  ??? about it.  :lol

On another note, it would totally be worth the money though.
WHBWH has some of their best artwork (imo), and I really enjoyed looking through it when I first heard the album.
You said that WHBWH renewed your interest in the band, but have you since then tried any of the older albums again, maybe they'll click more now? :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on August 20, 2011, 07:07:50 AM
You could buy the album at the gig?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 20, 2011, 08:02:21 AM
Zanteras avatar is so pretty.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 20, 2011, 08:04:36 AM
Zanteras avatar is so pretty.

 :heart :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 20, 2011, 08:07:21 AM
Natalie Portman  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 20, 2011, 08:09:26 AM
Indeed!

To not derail this thread completely, was it 5th September for Falling Deeper?
Gotta order it soon.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 20, 2011, 09:25:05 AM
I'm quite the Anathema-collector myself, the only "official" releases I can think of that I still need would be: Crestfallen EP, Resonance (1 and 2) and A Moment in Time (DVD).
Crestfallen is ok, but I totally understand why they left those songs off Serenades, they are heavier and not as good (although And I Lust makes me :metal). Everwake is beautiful, though. I have the release which features Pentecost III on the same disc; I don't get it why Peaceville decided to include the 7" versions of Crestfallen and They Die instead of their respective versions from the original Crestfallen EP, the quality is horrible. The only DVD I have is A Vision of a Dying Embrace. Looking at the tracklistings of the 2 Resonance compilations, they don't look worth buying. Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.

BTW, am I the only one here who seriously enjoys Serenades?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on August 20, 2011, 09:28:42 AM
I still need to listen to the first three, but when they played Sleepless and A Dying Wish live, I enjoyed it a lot and I think I'm definitely going to like the early albums too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 20, 2011, 10:15:24 AM
The Silent Enigma and Eternity are two fantastic albums, but I'm still not that hot for Serenades.
Sleepless is one of their best songs, but the rest is kinda.. good for its genre, but not that enjoyable for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on August 20, 2011, 11:20:03 AM
So have we discussed the song from Falling Deeper that Kscope released as a digital download yet? It's really good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on August 20, 2011, 08:49:36 PM
I'm really starting to get into Wings of God. I used to... not really like it, now it's really growing on me. Especially the ending part. I can already imagine seeing it as an amazing live closer.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on August 20, 2011, 08:51:22 PM
Wings of God is awesome. It relates to my life so much.

Well, almost everything Anathema have written relates to my life.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 21, 2011, 12:31:38 AM
So have we discussed the song from Falling Deeper that Kscope released as a digital download yet? It's really good.
Kingdom? Yeah, I like it! Drastically different, though. I had a hard time recognising any melody from the original version at first. The original was 9½ minutes long and drags on a little so it's good that this version is much shorter. Most bands would just change the arrangement or play the song as it was originally, but I like how Anathema had the guts to do something totally different! :tup
I still need to listen to the first three, but when they played Sleepless and A Dying Wish live, I enjoyed it a lot and I think I'm definitely going to like the early albums too.
I'm sure you'll enjoy The Silent Enigma and Eternity, don't know about Serenades; Sleepless is the most melodic song on the album (not counting the short interludes) and the rest are much heavier. But if you're used to death/doom you'll probably like it too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on August 21, 2011, 06:12:10 AM
Well the thing with doom metal is that it's a genre I've always been interested in but never really got myself to explore it properly. I'm definitely used to very dark and depressive music (I was borderline obsessed with Katatonia for most of 2010), and extreme metal is nothing new for me either (I was listening a lot to the new Decapitated album last week). I'm simply not sure if I'll like them more than any of the later albums, not because of heaviness as it is (I like both very heavy and very calm music... depends), but simply because they've matured quite a lot since then in their songwriting. I'll see. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 21, 2011, 06:36:41 AM
TSE and Etenity (plus a few songs on Serenades) have a plenty of calm moments so there's not only heavy riffing all over. Danny's melodic signature leads can also be heard on all the three albums. While I consider myself a doom metal fan, I think the holy trinity of Anathema is Alternative 4, Judgement and WHBWH.

EDIT: Samples from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005HACBG4/ref=sr_1_album_1_rd?ie=UTF8&child=B005HACCJ0&qid=1313930841&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 22, 2011, 09:51:03 AM
I think the holy trinity of Anathema is Alternative 4, Judgement and WHBWH.

Yeah definitely this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 22, 2011, 10:26:18 AM
when they played A Dying Wish live, I enjoyed it a lot

everyone unsure about the first few Anathema albums needs to hear that song! it's fairly indicative of their approach to metal in general and it's very clearly one of the best, most classic songs they've ever written — it would be a pity for any Anathema fan not to know what the song sounds like on TSE, at least.

also, Falling Deeper's release has been pushed back to Sept. 12 according to an email i got from Burning Shed (applies to the CD and vinyl too).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 23, 2011, 03:25:13 AM
Here in Finland A Dramatic Turn of Events and Falling Deeper will be released on the same date so I have 2 albums from great bands to buy that day! :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 31, 2011, 06:45:55 AM
Anyone listened to Falling Deeper yet? I have yet to aquire it but it's getting a lot of praise. Can't wait to listen to it (and don't worry, I'll buy it as soon as I get back in the Netherlands  ;)).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 31, 2011, 06:49:11 AM
I'll be checking out when I return from classes today. I've heard very good things.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2011, 06:50:35 AM
Anyone listened to Falling Deeper yet? I have yet to aquire it but it's getting a lot of praise. Can't wait to listen to it (and don't worry, I'll buy it as soon as I get back in the Netherlands  ;)).

Didn't think it was out for another week or two, but I'll check it out!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 31, 2011, 06:55:23 AM
Anyone listened to Falling Deeper yet? I have yet to aquire it but it's getting a lot of praise. Can't wait to listen to it (and don't worry, I'll buy it as soon as I get back in the Netherlands  ;)).

Didn't think it was out for another week or two, but I'll check it out!
I'm not sure if it's actually legally out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 31, 2011, 06:56:05 AM
It's supposed to be released next Monday.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2011, 06:56:54 AM
Officially it's released on the 10th I think.
But I have it now, gonna listen to it tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 31, 2011, 07:04:12 AM
I have very crappy internet over here so I have to wait way too long to get it :(. Going to take a walk while listening to it when it's done though :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 31, 2011, 07:17:54 AM
Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.

"Horses" is actually the quiet track before "666" on Pentecost III (hidden after the last song) - unless they removed the hidden tracks, you should have it on the Crestfallen/Pentecost release!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on August 31, 2011, 08:59:37 AM
I like Falling Deeper. There isn't that much going on in the music but it's very nice to listen to. I think I prefer Hindsight but this is great as well. Old Anathema + New Anathema = Awesome Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 31, 2011, 10:50:59 AM
Apart from Horses (which is 1 minute long) and the original version of Lovelorn Rhapsody, I have all those songs. Maybe someone who doesn't own the reissues of the first 4 albums could find them worth buying.

"Horses" is actually the quiet track before "666" on Pentecost III (hidden after the last song) - unless they removed the hidden tracks, you should have it on the Crestfallen/Pentecost release!
Horses isn't on the version I have - there's no hidden track after Memento Mori and the hidden track after They Die is 666, which I have on the Serenades reissue too (as part of Nailed to the Cross).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 31, 2011, 11:40:06 AM
Listening to Falling Deeper now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 31, 2011, 12:31:40 PM
First listen through and I really enjoyed it a lot. This reminds me a lot of the orchestral versions of Dreaming Light and Universal that I got on 7inch vinyl.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on August 31, 2011, 01:07:27 PM
I am not familiar with Anathema's older material... I want to get the new album, but I'm not sure if I should become familiar with the older versions before listening to the orchestrated recordings or not.

Oh, and I'm finishing up We're Here Because We're Here now, absolutely love this album and everytime I hear it I remember how amazing they were opening for Blackfield.  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2011, 01:54:28 PM
Falling Deeper was amazing!
Gotta listen to it more. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on August 31, 2011, 02:29:26 PM
Love this band. Superb.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on August 31, 2011, 03:22:59 PM
Anyone have the setlist for the acoustic Anathema shows? I was going through my records today and noticed I didn't have any of the setlists for the Blackfield/Anathema show I saw back in May.  :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on August 31, 2011, 03:50:17 PM
Thin Air
Deep
Angels Walk Among Us
Lost Control
Fragile Dreams
One Last Goodbye
Flying

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2011/irving-plaza-new-york-ny-3d3d14f.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on August 31, 2011, 04:44:36 PM
Thanks, Ryan  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on August 31, 2011, 05:47:35 PM
Falling Deeper is fantastic. It's like the eyeballs of Jesus.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on August 31, 2011, 06:33:11 PM
It's like the eyeballs of Jesus.

 :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on August 31, 2011, 06:55:41 PM
I'm not sure if this is a more amazing comparison than milking a cow...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 31, 2011, 11:42:04 PM
I'm not sure if this is a more amazing comparison than milking a cow...

To be honest, most of the songs are from Pentecost and Crestfallen, and even though I have them on my computer, I never listen to them.
So this is a really good way of getting people more interested in the early catalog, besides... the versions are REALLY different, especially Sunset of Age.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on August 31, 2011, 11:43:01 PM
Listened with Zack earlier... pretty good, but I'm definitely gonna have to give it a few more listens before I fully appreciate it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 01, 2011, 03:19:50 AM
I'll stay patient and won't listen to the album until it hits the record stores...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 04, 2011, 07:23:02 PM
I am absolutely in love with Parisienne Moonlight...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on September 05, 2011, 09:49:27 AM
What a great new album  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sigz on September 05, 2011, 09:51:39 AM
Haven't heard it yet. WHBWH was kinda bland though, so I can't say I'm terribly interested.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 05, 2011, 09:53:31 AM
two things:

The best album of 2010 is not bland

and the new album is 9804375984% different
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on September 05, 2011, 09:54:15 AM
The new album is alright.  I definitely like the songs on it much better than in their original forms (which I pretty much hate) and the arrangements are really cool but the actually songs as far as writing are just weak.  Hindsight was a lovely way to revisit previous songs and it was much better simply because the songs they were rearranging were much stronger songs.  

That's what I think, at least.  
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on September 05, 2011, 09:57:12 AM
Haven't heard it yet. WHBWH was kinda bland though, so I can't say I'm terribly interested.

What.  :|
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ClairvoyantCat on September 05, 2011, 09:58:26 AM
WHBWH is a good enough album, but it hasn't aged well.  It sounds too much like Porcupine Tree and not enough like Anathema. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 05, 2011, 10:02:28 AM
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on September 05, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sigz on September 05, 2011, 10:07:48 AM
I dunno, it really doesn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 05, 2011, 10:11:49 AM
I don't find WHBWH bland at all; it has some of their strongest and most mature writing. A Natural Disaster, on the other hand, isn't that great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on September 05, 2011, 10:14:34 AM
WHBWH is a good enough album, but it hasn't aged well. 

This. It was my favorite album from 2010 but now I never find myself listening to it nowadays.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on September 05, 2011, 10:15:21 AM
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on September 05, 2011, 10:21:30 AM
Disagree so much. I think it's a classic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 05, 2011, 12:45:33 PM
WHBWH is still fantastic, I don't really listen to it much anymore, but the same goes for the rest of Anathema as well.
I don't know, it just comes in waves for me, one week I might listen to a band and reach 150 plays, then not listen to them again for 6 months, it's all random. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on September 05, 2011, 02:55:16 PM
This new album is pure gold.

I would quite happily say both of their last 2 albums are better than PT's The Incident. And i'm a big PT fan.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 05, 2011, 03:12:14 PM
I'll agree with that.
Anathema has been getting better and better with every release (not like I actually rank them in that order, but you get my drift), Falling Deeper is just so amazing.
This just shows what a fantastic band they are, being able to take 9 songs from the old days, and make new versions that sound as amazing as these ones do!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 05, 2011, 05:45:42 PM
Ok fuck this, another thread I'm avoiding until release. This rule that it's allowed as long as it's not DT is dumb.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 05, 2011, 05:47:36 PM
and so you get angry about it? Alright then...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 05, 2011, 05:49:43 PM
Yes because I have to avoid threads of my favourite bands because of a fucking leak, which means the thread is dominated by the new album discussion for a few days, and any posts about older albums or other stuff get ignored. And when the album is actually released most people have already lost interest in discussing it by then.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 05, 2011, 05:56:58 PM
The album was released today anyway. umadbro.jpg
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on September 05, 2011, 06:19:03 PM
I overplayed WHBWH D:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 05, 2011, 06:50:59 PM
The album was released today anyway. umadbro.jpg
(https://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/50355_41035182344_6759018_n.jpg)

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/collection/222/

Pre-order now for 12th September 2011 release date
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 05, 2011, 06:52:44 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_deeper

Release date: 5 September 2011



This is the first time Wikipedia has ever let me down.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 06, 2011, 04:15:35 AM
To be honest, I really don't think we have spoiled the album anything here. :P
Most of the discussion about it has been about how good it is, and saying that "the new versions of old songs are interesting" can't be considered a spoiler, because we knew this 6 months ago, that Falling Deeper would be Hindsight 2.0.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 06, 2011, 07:10:41 PM
First review of the new album on sputnik. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/45456/Anathema-Falling-Deeper/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 06, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falling_deeper

Release date: 5 September 2011



This is the first time Wikipedia has ever let me down.
Aw fuck, and now I'm listening to it thinking yesterday was the release date. Oh, well...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on September 07, 2011, 06:36:37 AM
First review of the new album on sputnik. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/45456/Anathema-Falling-Deeper/

Total bollocks.

This albums is just as good as their other exceptional albums.

In fact, i'm absolutely loving it.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 07, 2011, 06:54:27 AM
Yeah I posted my disagreement with it on there. It was still a well written review though, and his points were fair.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 07, 2011, 07:48:38 AM
I had some fears about this album (haven't heard it yet) and that review seems to just confirm them, unfortunately. On the other hand, some of the original versions drag on so maybe cutting down the length is good for some of them. But taking 1 or 2 melodies from and playing them on piano and orchestra doesn't sound like a true remake to me... I still hope I'll like this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 07, 2011, 08:51:41 AM
I prefer Falling Deeper over Hindsight to be honest, and that says a lot seeing as Hindsight was brilliant.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: reneranucci on September 07, 2011, 10:21:06 AM
They are my favorite band now, after discovering them in 2010. Alternative 4 is my favorite album of theirs, although all the subsequent albums are excellent. I've heard they were a doom metal band before, talk about a change for the good!  :) I really dig their style, it is somber and dark but kinda uplifting at times. I think I'll get Falling Down on Amazon MP3 store since I don't want to buy physical CDs anymore.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 07, 2011, 10:32:13 AM
I'm trying to be skeptical because of the ZOMFG IS NEW feeling I have now, so I'm not going to extend my opinion until the album ages on me....

The songs are beautiful. Like, REALLY. They seem to be more beautiful every album they make. The only problem with this album for me is that it feels too short, and J'ai Fait Une Promesse... I had a problem with the vocals of the song (Or Lack thereof). Songs could be longer IMO.

Also, We the Gods made me eargasm. Hadn't done that since I heard Dreaming Light for the first time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 07, 2011, 10:46:19 AM
Agree that the album could have been longer, but I still love it as it is.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 07, 2011, 10:54:45 AM
Alternative 4 is my favorite album of theirs
:tup Same here!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 07, 2011, 11:27:16 AM
WHBWH > Alternative 4 > AND > Judgement

imo
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on September 07, 2011, 11:47:41 AM
judgement last?

lolwut

And what happened to AFDtE?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 07, 2011, 11:56:07 AM
I didn't rank all of the albums obviously...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 07, 2011, 07:48:19 PM
For now I feel it's...

1. A Natural Disaster
2. Judgement
3. A Fine Day to Exit
4. Alternative 4
5. We're Here Because We're Here

Still need to listen to the first three. Alternative 4 was "god tier" for quite a while for me, but now just somehow... I started to prefer the more catchy or sometimes ethereal feel of the later albums over its pretty raw sound. We're Here Because We're Here is definitely a nice album, but it just doesn't appeal to me as much as the others... it's more of a personal feeling, I feel it's an album of good songs (with Thin Air and A Simple Mistake being excellent), but I just can't get into the atmosphere and lyrics as much as with the others.

A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are a bit problematic for me. Both basically don't have a weaker point, and each has two songs I absolutely love (title and Temporary Peace; Parisienne Moonlight and 2000 & Gone), and while I at least like all others, as whole albums they don't give me as strong feelings.

Unlike A Natural Disaster, which is #1 and isn't going anywhere. And has probably my all-time favourite song, which is strange enough because hardly ever my favourite songs are instrumentals...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 08, 2011, 06:17:20 PM
Unlike A Natural Disaster, which is #1 and isn't going anywhere. And has probably my all-time favourite song, which is strange enough because hardly ever my favourite songs are instrumentals...
A Natural Disaster is their best for me currently. And if you're talking about Violence, you're right. It's pretty much one of the best songs ever made IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on September 08, 2011, 06:31:12 PM
Haven't heard it yet. WHBWH was kinda bland though, so I can't say I'm terribly interested.

Ian i love you and all but sometimes your musical opinions literally make my jaw drop  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 08, 2011, 06:44:23 PM
Unlike A Natural Disaster, which is #1 and isn't going anywhere. And has probably my all-time favourite song, which is strange enough because hardly ever my favourite songs are instrumentals...
A Natural Disaster is their best for me currently. And if you're talking about Violence, you're right. It's pretty much one of the best songs ever made IMO.
Exactly... It's just as strong experience every single time I listen to it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on September 08, 2011, 07:02:44 PM
Violence is an amazing song, my favorite off the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on September 08, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
Been listening to their other album and I like it but so far nothing has come close to WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on September 08, 2011, 08:59:52 PM
Judgement > everything else.

It's still one of my favorite albums ever and probably a top 10 for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on September 08, 2011, 10:47:15 PM
A Natural Disaster is indeed #1, and also the loneliest album I've ever heard. Do not listen when sad :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 09, 2011, 01:09:35 AM
I can't possibly rank them to be honest, WHBWH, Judgement, The Silent Enigma, A Natural Disaster, A Fine Day to Exit and Alternative 4 all have the potential to be my favorite, add to that Eternity which is fantastic as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 09, 2011, 09:45:58 AM
A Natural Disaster is indeed #1, and also the loneliest album I've ever heard. Do not listen when sad :P
For me it definitely is the album to listen to when sad...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 13, 2011, 09:43:55 AM
Quote from: www.anathema.ws
It is with regret and sadness that Anathema announce they have parted company with keyboardist Les Smith due to creative and musical differences.

All of us including Les tried our best to make the partnership work for many years through hard work together, but it was felt there was always a difficulty and the creative process was just not working. Sadly the split was inevitable.

Great respect and thanks is due to Les for all his tireless work behind the scenes for the band. It has been a very difficult few months for everyone concerned as Les is a unique character and is still much loved by all in the band. You will have noticed that Daniel Cardoso has been performing in concerts over the festival season as a live player, but the writing and recording line up will remain the nucleus of the band as it always was.

We all wish Les the very, very best for the future.


:(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 13, 2011, 12:20:29 PM
It's sad news, but I must say that I felt relieved!
When I read the first sentence, I thought the band were splitting up, so even though this is sad news, that would have been even sadder news!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 14, 2011, 02:01:43 AM
Having read Anathema forum for some time, I saw that coming. Actually Les left in May already but according to Danny they were looking for a way to get him back, but it didn't work.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 14, 2011, 02:37:53 AM
Is there any more information about why it/what exactly happened?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 14, 2011, 03:46:51 AM
I am really surprised... :( I don't know... he just felt like the perfect person for Anathema...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 14, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?6858-quot-Falling-Deeper-quot-new-album-out-on-5th-sept&p=117423&viewfull=1#post117423
Quote from: Danny Cavanagh
The split with les was really really painful and almost ended anathema permanently
You'll never be able to know the full story but I'm still dreaming at night and wondering about this every day
it's going to take months and months for anathema to recover from this and I'm very sorry for thus unfolding of our lives
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pyroph on September 15, 2011, 08:26:22 PM
I think I listened to Judgment a while ago, but I don't remember it. Anyway, with the new album coming out I figured I'd just jump headfirst into these guys, so I ordered Judgment, WHBWH, and the new album.

Sucks to hear about the keyboardist.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 16, 2011, 01:14:09 AM
I think I listened to Judgment a while ago, but I don't remember it. Anyway, with the new album coming out I figured I'd just jump headfirst into these guys, so I ordered Judgment, WHBWH, and the new album.

Sucks to hear about the keyboardist.

You will love them!  :heart

I also don't think this has been posted here before, but:

Quote from: Regarding the next album
Guitarist/singer Vincent Cavanagh of the U.K. atmospheric rock band ANATHEMA has told Greece's Rock Overdose web site that the band is in the studio recording 14 songs for its next studio album, which is tentatively due in April 2012.
https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163261
audio avaliable in that blabbermouth location.

I am psyched.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 16, 2011, 04:18:54 AM
Damn, the local store didn't have Falling Deeper yet! >:(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 16, 2011, 04:21:38 AM
I got my copy yesterday.
I must say, I love the artwork.. so relaxing, and really fits with the music.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 16, 2011, 07:35:20 AM
I just hope the release date isn't as certain and unlikely to be delayed as it was with WHBWH. :neverusethis:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 16, 2011, 07:48:22 AM
I don't think it will.
For starters, it was meant to be an EP, seeing as they had some leftover songs from WHBWH, but according to Danny it grew pretty fast and turned into a full size album.
I can't complain, if anything I think this is fantastic news, because I think WHBWH and Falling Deeper has been brilliant releases, and I am really excited about Anathema's future.

Plus, a new album means a new tour, and this time (if they come here), age restriction won't be a problem for me like it was last time, when it was a week before my 18th birthday. :/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on September 16, 2011, 08:18:43 AM
I'm also looking forward to the new album, definitely. Though I admit I'd love it if it was a bit darker...

Age restriction on a concert? :| Here as far as I know you need to be with a parent if you're below 18 if I recall correctly... Age restrictions on perfectly normal concerts like Anathema sound really dumb.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 16, 2011, 10:55:39 AM
Dumb indeed.  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: zxlkho on September 16, 2011, 11:28:43 AM
They really really need to tour the US again. A headlining tour would be cool actually.

They put on such a fantastic show...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 19, 2011, 05:02:33 AM
Finally listening to the new album, it's gorgeous and very atmospheric. Not nearly as good as WHBWH, but it's a really interesting listen. I don't know the original songs that well really (some of them I don't know at all) so it feels like new music to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 19, 2011, 05:18:41 AM
Yeah, even though I know the original versions, most of the songs aren't very typical, seeing as most are rare songs from the old days, and it really feels like new music to me as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: AndyDT on September 20, 2011, 06:05:25 AM
I can't possibly rank them to be honest, WHBWH, Judgement, The Silent Enigma, A Natural Disaster, A Fine Day to Exit and Alternative 4 all have the potential to be my favorite, add to that Eternity which is fantastic as well.
Still my favourite i'd say.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 23, 2011, 02:33:44 AM
I bought FD yesterday along with Opeth's Heritage. I like how they've turned songs that make you headbang into songs that make you feel relaxed! :tup My favorite is Sunset of Age, it stays true to the original despite having a different arrangement. However, the new version of We the Gods was a HUGE disappointment as it only includes the weakest part of the original version and not the epic ending which is the climax of the song. I understand shortening the other songs as they have heavy riffs that don't fit the current Anathema anymore, but that melody with guitar harmonies in WTG is so great IMO that this version didn't do justice to the song due to the cutting of that part. The rest are good, except that Alone could be shorter.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 23, 2011, 05:38:33 AM
Interesting, because I've seen a lot of people praise the new version of We, The Gods.
Personally I might prefer the original as well, my only complaints with Falling Deeper would be: A bit too short. It's about 35-40 minutes or so I think, and I don't think an additional 10-15 minutes would have been bad.
And, I think the album is a bit too much instrumental, I would have loved a few more songs with vocals, to kinda make the mix even stronger.
Would have loved new versions of Sleepless and The Silent Enigma for example.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 23, 2011, 07:15:52 AM
Yeah, more vocals could have been nice, that's why Sunset of Age is my favorite and Kingdom is also great. I guess they didn't include Sleepless and TSE as the former was re-recorded in the Eternity sessions and there's an orchestral version of the latter, which is IMO very beautiful and probably better than the original. Both can be found on the reissue of The Silent Enigma (which I have).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 26, 2011, 06:59:22 PM
Amazing Anathema song flow my Player just showed me:
Dreaming Light->We the Gods (2011)->Presence->Crestfallen (2011)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on October 13, 2011, 03:33:34 PM
I listened to We're Here Because We're Here before. Wow. So so great. I tried out A Fine Day to Exit too. Not as good as WHBWH but I absolutely love the "dogs, cats, chickens" section on Temporary Peace, mostly because Anathema are from my town and the accent is so strong.

But yeah, WHBWH is awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on October 13, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
Well, I admit I only listened to the ending part like three times or so, normally I just manually press stop after Temporary Peace :P the ending is kinda fun but it doesn't fit the album for me.

And personally I love AFDTE much more than WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 13, 2011, 04:00:34 PM
I just accidentally got into Anathema.

The venue which is hosting Devin Townsend tonight mistakenly listed Anathema as the opening band, so I checked out some youtube videos and got hooked. Then I found out they are not on the bill   :sad:

(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/Screenshot2011-10-13at60125PM.png)

What a tease.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: mizzl on October 13, 2011, 04:07:31 PM
Haha don't worry, Anathema is amazing.



Listen to A Natural Disaster and try not to be lonely and sad.


Good luck.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Liberation on October 13, 2011, 05:13:33 PM
Actually, I find it to be just the perfect album to listen to when lonely and sad. It feels like a friend.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 15, 2011, 05:52:25 PM
I am absolutely in love with Falling Deeper  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on October 15, 2011, 07:23:34 PM
Falling Deeper is indeed an awesome album  :heart I got my physical copy a week ago, love it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 16, 2011, 02:25:19 AM
Falling Deeper is great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on October 16, 2011, 03:40:57 PM
I am absolutely in love with Falling Deeper  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on October 16, 2011, 06:12:27 PM
I think Anathema should just focus on writing a new album since as they made us wait so long for WHBWH.

It better have Wilson mixing again though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 17, 2011, 12:56:48 AM
They are recording already: https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=163261
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 17, 2011, 02:35:08 AM
I think Anathema should just focus on writing a new album since as they made us wait so long for WHBWH.

It better have Wilson mixing again though.

They are already working on a new album, which should come out in 2012.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on December 18, 2011, 07:26:31 PM
Sunset of Age on Falling Deeper is one of the most beautiful and powerful things I have ever heard. If Anathema does a show with an orchestra and plays that song, I think I would be willing to travel anywhere in the world to go see it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on December 18, 2011, 07:51:01 PM
Yeah, that song is really good. The whole of Falling Deeper disappointed me though, unfortunately. :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on December 18, 2011, 08:42:06 PM
A DYING WISH

they really should've done that song on Falling Deeper.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 19, 2011, 01:52:56 AM
A DYING WISH

they really should've done that song on Falling Deeper.
ADW rules! :metal But the guys of the band didn't feel that song worked in an orchestral setting: https://www.rockpages.gr/detailspage.aspx?id=6186&type=1&lang=EN
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on December 23, 2011, 08:30:39 AM
So... how 'bout that Alternative 4 album (The Brink, not the Anathema one)? Pretty kick ass, imo. It's like a continuation of the '98 masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OxrnU2TKC8

This was linked from the official band's Facebook account, btw.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on December 23, 2011, 03:42:37 PM
So WHBWH is the only album I have ever overplayed.

It sucks, I wish I could enjoy it again :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on December 25, 2011, 11:37:28 PM
I like WHBWH. I am currently in LOVE with Thin Air.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 26, 2011, 03:22:57 AM
So... how 'bout that Alternative 4 album (The Brink, not the Anathema one)? Pretty kick ass, imo. It's like a continuation of the '98 masterpiece.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OxrnU2TKC8

This was linked from the official band's Facebook account, btw.
Reminds me of the A4 title track... Alternative 4 is my favorite Anathema album, maybe I should give this album a listen.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 01, 2012, 01:42:28 AM
The album is finished (https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?6923-The-album-s-finished&s=f26c4cfae2f5e28c27a21d2c7efb8152)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 01, 2012, 04:57:26 AM
Great news! :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on January 01, 2012, 11:45:38 AM
Can't wait!! WHBWH is one of my top 10 albums of all time so hopefully the new one will be as good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 01, 2012, 01:28:46 PM
:caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on January 01, 2012, 01:31:45 PM
:Fronkensteen: :Fronkensteen: :Fronkensteen: :Fronkensteen: :Fronkensteen:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 07, 2012, 02:40:31 AM
Danny played a new Anathema song (Untouchable) at an acoustic show in Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTJTyKR2_8&feature=youtu.be

Sounds promising! :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 07, 2012, 06:12:08 AM
Danny played a new Anathema song (Untouchable) at an acoustic show in Russia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXTJTyKR2_8&feature=youtu.be

Sounds promising! :caffeine:
:caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 30, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Quote from: Petter Carlsen
With pride and overjoy I can announce that I'm doing backing vocals on the first two tracks on ANATHEMA - official band page 's upcoming album! I've been a huge fan for many years, and this is very inspiring to me! Fuel on the fire! Yesch!!! ♥

Petter Carlsen is amazing, in fact he has become one of my favorite singer/songwriters or whatever since Voxyn told me about him, so the fact that he will be on Anathema's new album makes it even more amazing.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 31, 2012, 03:19:18 AM
Danny said on the Anathema forum that the new album will be titled "Weather Systems". Can't find the thread where it was said first but in this thread (https://soulreaper.net/showthread.php?4287-Johns-best-composition&s=140d4864653df32124952374a1d84e06&p=119158#post119158) he says: "with a title like 'weather systems' its likely to be included eh mate " referring to "Lightning Song".
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 31, 2012, 03:21:56 AM
I'm really intrigued by that title. If it has a cover similar to WHBWH and Falling Deeper, I'll be even more excited, because I love the colors and simplicity of those covers, they are not full of details or stuff here and there, they are just simple and beautiful, and suiting the music on the albums perfectly.

Any news on when the album will be out? As in, Spring, Summer or Fall?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 31, 2012, 09:10:34 AM
Their next tour date is on April 21 and the album is ready so I bet they'll release it before the start of the tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on January 31, 2012, 09:21:40 AM
....So what's the cover/title??

nvm
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on January 31, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
Nice timing. :lol

All the details announced here: https://www.anathema.ws/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 11:35:11 AM
:D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 31, 2012, 12:23:54 PM
Oh god.
Expectations and excitement regarding the new album went through the roof. This is probably my most anticipated release this year, and that is a pretty big achievement looking at the other albums that will come out.
Loving the artwork, digging the title, and if the music is as good (or better) then WHBWH, then I see no reason for this album to be anything less but perfect.  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on January 31, 2012, 02:55:35 PM
That cover is fantastic! Cannot wait for this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 31, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
 :omg:

That is fantastic! Cannot wait!

Hope you guys are glad I pimped them out so much here, think I am responsible for quite some listeners from here  :millahhhh
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on January 31, 2012, 03:39:39 PM
Hope there is a 5.1 mix even though Steven didn't mix the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 31, 2012, 04:11:33 PM
:omg:

That is fantastic! Cannot wait!

Hope you guys are glad I pimped them out so much here, think I am responsible for quite some listeners from here  :millahhhh

I didn't get into them through DTF, but I'm still grateful for all the other stuff you've shared with me.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on January 31, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
Cool stuff!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on January 31, 2012, 04:50:19 PM
I'm a new fan...I've only heard WHBWH, but I love it.  I'm really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 04:56:29 PM
I'm a new fan...I've only heard WHBWH, but I love it.  I'm really looking forward to this.

This is true for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on January 31, 2012, 06:11:17 PM
What, no high five?   :-[
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
down low, bro, i guess you didnt see it

o_
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on January 31, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
I really really love the album cover. If the music fits it, this will be one amazing album.

edit: added it to the post since it's not in the thread yet - this makes it easier to find for people :)


(https://shadowsdance.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/weathersystems-highres.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on January 31, 2012, 06:23:10 PM
down low, bro, i guess you didnt see it

o_

,-o

That's my hand giving a low five, not something dripping from my long nose.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
Ok, good.

Good to see you!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on January 31, 2012, 06:42:14 PM
Ok, good.

Good to see you!

SEE me?  I already told you, the stalking needs to stop!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 06:46:47 PM
Look man, saying that doesn't mean I can't see you're still naked.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on January 31, 2012, 06:52:05 PM
I'm not naked.  My nipples are covered.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on January 31, 2012, 06:53:37 PM
Goldfish don't count.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on February 01, 2012, 12:33:20 AM
Quote
The play of opposites; light and shade, birth and death, love and fear. The simple truths of life and loss, hope and strength and darker internal themes are all explored here.
Looks like it'll be (slightly) darker than WHBWH; fine for me, Alternative 4 and Judgement are my 2 favorite albums and they're very melancholic!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 01, 2012, 01:38:48 AM
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on February 01, 2012, 01:41:32 AM
It sounds from the description that it will be slightly darker, but the cover has a very light feel to it.
Will be interesting to see how they pull it off.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on February 01, 2012, 09:02:59 PM
So I just found out.......
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

They say this album will be BETTER than We're Here?
I can't contain my excitement. Can't do it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on February 01, 2012, 09:05:49 PM
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.
DUDE listen to it at once! it is one of the greatest albums of all time, by anybody!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on February 01, 2012, 09:11:59 PM
Wait, new Anathema album?




YES (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs)
:caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on February 01, 2012, 10:08:48 PM
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.

 :\ Why? Regardless if you like his music or not, he is an excellent producer, or in this case mixer. WHBWH's sound is incredible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on February 02, 2012, 12:14:26 AM
Maybe I should get around to checking out WHBWH so I can listen to this. I have every album from Alternative 4 through A Natural Disaster, but I never bothered to check it out because their music isn't really the style/tone I've been digging recently. And, to be honest, the moment Steven Wilson's name was attached to it, my interest in it quartered.

I'm generally not a fan of SW 99% of the time. However, I LOVE WHBWH. Idk, there is just something beautiful about it. I say that as someone who shares the same sentiment and is not a fan of SW (guys has his chops, just not really my style), and that it is worth checking out. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fluffy Lothario on February 02, 2012, 12:41:00 AM
Oh, I admit it was a kneejerk reaction - after all, I never had many problems with his production, between BWP and the KC remasters - but one I've never gotten around to looking beyond. I might do as I did with The Mars Volta and use the new album as motivation to get caught up.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on February 15, 2012, 03:51:57 PM
New song available for free download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIQGpl0NiY
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on February 15, 2012, 04:51:08 PM
Reminds me a lot of Thin Air. I like it :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on February 15, 2012, 05:10:21 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING

seriously I am so pumped for this album now, wow...!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 15, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on February 15, 2012, 07:30:40 PM
New song available for free download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIQGpl0NiY
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT NIGGA
THAT WAS GOOD


Sounds like if a song of WHBWH and a song from Alternative 4 had a child. AND IT'S AWESOME
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on February 15, 2012, 08:03:24 PM
In case anyone hasn't seen this:

1.   Untouchable Part 1 (6.14)
2.   Untouchable Part 2 (5.33)
3.   The Gathering Of The Clouds (3.27)
4.   Lightning Song (5.25)
5.   Sunlight (4.55)
6.   The Storm Before The Calm (9.24)
7.   The Beginning And The End (4.53)
8.   The Lost Child (7.02)
9.   Internal Landscapes (8.52)

Definitely going to be one of 2012's best..
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on February 16, 2012, 01:35:57 AM
I'm not going to listen to the new song, because I don't want to spoil the album experience.
One thing I can say however, is that I am really excited about this album, possibly my most anticipated album of the year.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on February 16, 2012, 05:55:49 AM
New song available for free download https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKIQGpl0NiY
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT NIGGA
THAT WAS GOOD


Sounds like if a song of WHBWH and a song from Alternative 4 had a child. AND IT'S AWESOME
Haha, a good description! :lol It does give me an A4 vibe in its intensity and the strong role of piano. Can't wait to hear the full album!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on February 16, 2012, 12:09:13 PM
I'm not going to listen to the new song, because I don't want to spoil the album experience.
One thing I can say however, is that I am really excited about this album, possibly my most anticipated album of the year.

I think I'll listen once, because I am highly curious. Plus, I won't remember too much about the song by the time the album comes out anyways.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on February 16, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
You people are weak! WEAK I tell ya!

Nah, just kiddin'.  :lol
In all honesty, I have plenty of music to keep myself busy until the album comes out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on February 26, 2012, 09:21:13 AM
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.

Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nikatapi on March 05, 2012, 12:41:15 PM
Untouchable, part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BliwQnxBxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BliwQnxBxk)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 05, 2012, 01:37:25 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 05, 2012, 04:08:06 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on March 05, 2012, 07:26:50 PM
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.

Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.

Yes it is.

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 05, 2012, 07:31:41 PM
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.

Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.

Yes it is.

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Nice.

Totally missed that part.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on March 05, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.

Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.

Yes it is.

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Nice.

Totally missed that part.

I don't think that was originally mentioned, so I am VERY happy to hear it will be released in 5.1 :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 05, 2012, 09:13:09 PM
Album is up for preorder here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/anathema/) and you can listen to the song that's been circulating too.

Doesn't look like this one's coming with a 5.1 mix unfortunately.

Yes it is.

https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/222/3621/
Nice.

Totally missed that part.

I don't think that was originally mentioned, so I am VERY happy to hear it will be released in 5.1 :caffeine:
Yeah, I don't think so either.

Looking at the email I got for my order, it doesn't mention a CD/DVD, but if I look it up on burningshed's website, it says I preordered the CD/DVD.  :D

so, yay I guess!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Gorille85 on March 05, 2012, 09:40:14 PM
New song is very good!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 06, 2012, 06:20:55 PM
seasonsinthesky, I fully expect you and I to continue that quote pyramid as more songs are released/the album comes out.

This seriously might be my favorite song they've ever done. It's excellent in every way.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 06, 2012, 10:08:10 PM
^ i will be severely disappointed if that pyramid goes to waste! xD
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 09, 2012, 06:12:38 AM
Samples of each song (https://www.rockserwis.pl/serwis.do?menu=main&pid=137991&l=2)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on March 10, 2012, 03:08:47 PM
From Anathema's wiki page:

(https://puu.sh/kf8a)

That pretty much sums it up. :lol



Edit: it has come to my attention that I'm retarded. I misread that as themes of depression and depression and thought the redundancy was fitting. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on March 10, 2012, 06:03:26 PM
Vincent has some very intelligent opinions. This is definitely worth a read.
https://www.radiometal.com/en/article/anathema-the-contrast-of-happiness,59614 (https://www.radiometal.com/en/article/anathema-the-contrast-of-happiness,59614)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on March 10, 2012, 11:42:53 PM
So Untouchable Part 1 and "Are you There", from hindsight...

Anathema deserve a high five for their amazing acoustic guitar intros!

Zantera cover your eyes!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 11, 2012, 12:39:05 AM
From Anathema's wiki page:

(https://puu.sh/kf8a)

That pretty much sums it up. :lol



Edit: it has come to my attention that I'm retarded. I misread that as themes of depression and depression and thought the redundancy was fitting. :lol
What's funnier is the bit: "...marking Anathema's complete shift from the doom metal genre, focusing instead on slower and more experimental songs." Doom metal is pretty slow already! :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on March 11, 2012, 11:17:04 AM
This new song is so amazing. I've lost count of how many times I've listened to it. This new album is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 11, 2012, 11:31:11 AM
Wait, new album?? I'M SO FAR BEHIND WITH MUSIC NEWS!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 11, 2012, 01:00:30 PM
you can stay up to date (on Anathema, at least) with ShadowsDance.com (https://shadowsdance.com)!

edit: son of a bitch, i always forget that the URL tags don't need quotation marks. thanks Glaurung ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on March 11, 2012, 01:14:21 PM
you can stay up to date (on Anathema, at least) with ShadowsDance.com (https://shadowsdance.com)!

Fixed the link for you.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 11, 2012, 03:25:46 PM
Cheers  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 12, 2012, 08:31:45 AM
It's on Spotify in Europe (mistake?). Anway, listening now :dangerwillrobinson:.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 12, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
Spoiler alert: It's fantastic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on March 12, 2012, 09:55:22 AM
How could I have missed this thread!  ??? ??? I ordered the new album (limited ed.) a few days ago. I haven't listened to any track from it yet, and I want to keep it that way.. However, I don't know for how long I can keep myself from clicking the link to Untouchable Pt.1  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on March 12, 2012, 10:47:34 AM
From Anathema's wiki page:

(https://puu.sh/kf8a)

That pretty much sums it up. :lol



Edit: it has come to my attention that I'm retarded. I misread that as themes of depression and depression and thought the redundancy was fitting. :lol

I did the same things. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on March 12, 2012, 03:49:09 PM
This album is  :omg: I know it's a bit premature, but I'm calling album of the year right now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 12, 2012, 03:57:52 PM
This album is  :omg: I know it's a bit premature, but I'm calling album of the year right now.

...Ryan?

I'm listening right now, about halfway through and it's awesome so far  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 12, 2012, 04:11:29 PM
Me and Ryan called this "album of the year" two years ago.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on March 12, 2012, 04:16:53 PM
Me and Ryan called this "album of the year" two years ago.
Looks like you guys were right on the money  :laugh:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on March 12, 2012, 05:30:35 PM
MUST.... WAIT... UNTIL APRIL.... PLEASE.... AAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on March 13, 2012, 02:39:49 AM
MUST.... WAIT... UNTIL APRIL.... PLEASE.... AAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 13, 2012, 04:58:55 AM
Just give in, it's so worth it
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 13, 2012, 05:08:24 AM
I'll give in. On FRIDAY! Why? Friday is obviously the best day of hearing a mindblowing album. I got Fridays off, so it means that I can just chill, blast Anathema on high volume and enjoy life.  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 13, 2012, 05:09:57 AM
You won't be disappointed  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 13, 2012, 06:05:44 AM
AOTY
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on March 13, 2012, 06:45:50 AM
It's another solid album that's for sure.

Hard to say if it's better than WHBWH just yet. A couple of songs don't quite do it for me (Sunlight/Internal Landscapes)

Lightning Song is perhaps the most uplifting 5 minute song ever recorded.

I'd like to see them go a bit heavier at times, it has to be said.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 13, 2012, 07:16:42 AM
It's another solid album that's for sure.

Hard to say if it's better than WHBWH just yet. A couple of songs don't quite do it for me (Sunlight/Internal Landscapes)

Lightning Song is perhaps the most uplifting 5 minute song ever recorded.

I'd like to see them go a bit heavier at times, it has to be said.

The Silent Enigma and Serenades exist for that.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on March 13, 2012, 07:42:42 AM
It's another solid album that's for sure.

Hard to say if it's better than WHBWH just yet. A couple of songs don't quite do it for me (Sunlight/Internal Landscapes)

Lightning Song is perhaps the most uplifting 5 minute song ever recorded.

I'd like to see them go a bit heavier at times, it has to be said.

I know, but I mean their newer stuff. Just a litte bit, at least.
The Silent Enigma and Serenades exist for that.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 13, 2012, 07:53:46 AM
Some heavier stuff would be interesting but I can't see them doing that beacuse none of the songwriters in the band listen to metal anymore and the only post-Alternative 4 song I would call heavy is Pulled Under at 2000 Metres a Second, which is one of Danny's (and IIRC also Vinny's) least favorite songs. Besides, Serenades is so crushingly heavy that it should satisfy those who want to hear doom metal :metal

I've listened to The Beginning and the End only 2 or 3 times and the samples once - I've been able to resist myself! ;D I want the album to sound as fresh as possible when it's finally released
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 13, 2012, 08:50:43 AM
Yeah, you have a very good point with your argument. The members who had a heavier influence aren't really there anymore, and if we look at how Anathema has evolved, adding a heavier touch would almost be like regressing in sound. It's interesting if we compare PT and Anathema, because PT started out more soft, and their last couple of albums have been much more heavy sounding, meanwhile Anathema is pretty much the opposite. Anathema now is very uplifting, atmospheric and positive, and I have no idea how they could incorporate heavier riffs into that, I don't really know if heaviness would work with atmospheric/positive/uplifting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on March 13, 2012, 02:01:00 PM
Yeah, you have a very good point with your argument. The members who had a heavier influence aren't really there anymore, and if we look at how Anathema has evolved, adding a heavier touch would almost be like regressing in sound. It's interesting if we compare PT and Anathema, because PT started out more soft, and their last couple of albums have been much more heavy sounding, meanwhile Anathema is pretty much the opposite. Anathema now is very uplifting, atmospheric and positive, and I have no idea how they could incorporate heavier riffs into that, I don't really know if heaviness would work with atmospheric/positive/uplifting.

There were traces of heaviness on "We're Here" Such as Summernight Horizon, or Simple Mistake, but that of course is instrument heaviness and nothing like A Dying Wish.

Also Untouchable Pt. 1 seriously needs to go viral. It's happened with much worse songs before...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 13, 2012, 05:25:34 PM
I'd prefer if there were less prominent female vocals on this album, but it's still absolutely amazing. Lightning Song is very uplifting and powerful, but I'd love to see how it sounds with male vocals as well.

Also: the end of The Storm Before the Calm is incredible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on March 14, 2012, 05:03:54 AM
I really like the female vocals on the album, on my first listen I was surprised there was so much but I think it suits the album well  :) 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on March 14, 2012, 07:08:46 PM
OH GOD SO GOOD
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 14, 2012, 07:48:38 PM
IF ONLY YOU COULD OPEN UP YOUR MIND AND SEE
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on March 15, 2012, 12:07:06 AM
THEY TOOK ALL THE VIDEOS DOWN NO!!! Now we have to wait until late April!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 17, 2012, 06:42:40 AM
After 10 spins of this album, I can easily say it's the best album I've heard so far this year. I don't know if it surpasses WHBWH, but it's right there with it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 17, 2012, 07:07:18 AM
On my third listen of the album now, pretty good. First listen was a bit of a let down actually, possibly because of high expectations, but it didn't blow me away in the same way that WHBWH did on the first listen. But it has grown with each listen, and I can definitely see potential in the album. I'm already starting to really dig it on this listen, which is good.

As for how it ranks into the albums I know so far this year, I would say that it is probably just below or tied with Gazpacho - March of Ghosts for AOTY so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 18, 2012, 08:45:30 AM
Alright, I concede. Lightning Song is the best song of 2012 so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on March 18, 2012, 04:45:30 PM
Alright, I concede. Lightning Song is the best song of 2012 so far.

It's definitely the 'Dreaming Light' of this album.  :)

Still not a big fan of Sunlight or Lost Child. For that reason I'd have to say WHBWH is the better album.

Still a solid record, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: poespas on March 18, 2012, 04:48:39 PM
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 18, 2012, 04:57:28 PM
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.

WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE HERE
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 18, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
I don't quite get the fuzz over Lightning Song so far, but again I've only heard the album 3 times so far. On the other hand, Dreaming Light isn't one of my favorites on WHBWH either, so I guess different opinions exist.
I'd say Lost Child and the Untouchable-songs are my favorites so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on March 18, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.

WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE'RE HERE
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 18, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
I've listened to the new album 12 times so far. I think I may like it just as much as WHBWH, if not a little more. Lightening Song is definitely my favorite. I can't stop listening to it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 18, 2012, 05:38:45 PM
I don't quite get the fuzz over Lightning Song so far, but again I've only heard the album 3 times so far. On the other hand, Dreaming Light isn't one of my favorites on WHBWH either, so I guess different opinions exist.
I'd say Lost Child and the Untouchable-songs are my favorites so far.

I'd have thought for someone who loves female vocalists so much, you'd be ecstatic over a song like this. It's just utterly uplifting, happy, powerful, inspiring... the list goes on, haha.
 
I've listened to the new album 12 times so far. I think I may like it just as much as WHBWH, if not a little more. Lightening Song is definitely my favorite. I can't stop listening to it.

Yup, it's amazing. I'm currently in love with the second half of the Storm Before the Calm. So good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on March 18, 2012, 05:51:02 PM
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
A Fine Day To Exit
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 19, 2012, 12:32:45 AM
I want to take a deep dive into this band, where shall I start?
I do not prefer to start with their doom/gothic stuff.
Judgement or Alternative 4
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 22, 2012, 06:10:28 PM
The drumming on this album is so good. The ending of Sunlight is incredible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on March 27, 2012, 10:14:21 PM
Weather Systems is one of the most unbelievably moving and uplifiting albums I've ever heard. It might....might be even Better than We're Here. That hurt to say. Lightning Song, Untouchable, and oh my god Internal Landscapes.....

I see the light, and I know it's you

I was always there
I will always be there
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 30, 2012, 11:06:19 PM
WS is absolutely glorious but I've been on an Anathema kick and seriously listening to A Natural Disaster, Pulled Under at 2000 Metres a Second and Closer clicked hard with me. Closer just has a creepy yet awesome atmospheric feeling to it, and the other, well...

PULLED UNDER AT 2000 METRES A SECOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOND
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 31, 2012, 12:27:02 AM
Pulled Under... is great, but not one of my favorites on the album. I can understand why it wouldn't be one of Danny's favorites.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on April 03, 2012, 06:41:56 PM
Listening to the new album. Holy shit you guys.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LieLowTheWantedMan on April 03, 2012, 07:54:29 PM
It's okay. The Gathering of Clouds is by far the best song. Maybe I just need to digest it still.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 03, 2012, 08:27:14 PM
HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING
AOTY

aaaand here's my review (https://www.facebook.com/weareanathema/posts/421440461204313) xD
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 04, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
Weather Systems is great, but I don't think it's my AOTY now, and looking at some of the releases later this year, it might be hard for it to end up in the top5/10-region.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FretMuppet on April 04, 2012, 03:16:29 AM
Yep... I think it done it... it beat We're Here Because We're Here  :heart :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 04, 2012, 05:59:57 AM
Weather Systems is great, but I don't think it's my AOTY now, and looking at some of the releases later this year, it might be hard for it to end up in the top5/10-region.

I think you just need some more time with the album, it's as good as WHBWH in my opinion, after like 15+ listens.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 04, 2012, 07:11:53 AM
Weather Systems is great, but I don't think it's my AOTY now, and looking at some of the releases later this year, it might be hard for it to end up in the top5/10-region.

I think you just need some more time with the album, it's as good as WHBWH in my opinion, after like 15+ listens.
To be fair I've heard it 9 times now, and I still think it's a bit underwhelming. It's impossible not to compare it to WHBWH (for obvious reasons) and I don't feel like any of the songs on Weather Systems are good enough to be placed on WHBWH. Maybe the Untouchable-songs, but while the rest on Weather Systems is great, I don't think any of the songs are Universal/Hindsight/Thin Air-awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on April 04, 2012, 10:41:53 AM
This September, Anathema will have a show in my town. Well, not officially confirmed yet but IT HAS TO BE TRUE!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plovdiv_Roman_amphitheatre

(https://operata.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/orchestra-filarmonica-della-scala.jpg)
(https://bnr.bg/sites/radiobulgaria/music/news/PublishingImages/670/11-09-02-02729_2.jpg)
(https://razhodka.blog.bg/photos/127838/original/001714748.jpg)

This is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on April 04, 2012, 12:41:01 PM
Whoa. That'sw a great venue.

As for Weather Systems being AOTY, I don't know, but it's among the best ones yet. It has to fight in december against Alcest's Les Voyages de l'Âme already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on April 04, 2012, 02:21:08 PM
Wow, that's awesome dude! Makes me think of Night of the Prog last year in Loreley, Germany..
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pyroph on April 05, 2012, 04:28:47 PM
So I've had WHBWH and Falling Deeper, but I'd never gotten around to listening to WHBWH until today. Holy fuck. That's all. Can't wait to pick up their other albums and Weather Systems.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 05, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
So I've had WHBWH and Falling Deeper, but I'd never gotten around to listening to WHBWH until today. Holy fuck. That's all. Can't wait to pick up their other albums and Weather Systems.

I'm surprised it took you so long, seeing how much the band has been pimped around here. :P When I first heard them I felt like they were a slightly lesser version of Porcupine Tree (don't ask me where I got the comparison from, I was a naab then) but to be honest I feel like WHBWH is better then most (maybe all) of PT's albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pyroph on April 05, 2012, 07:02:08 PM
I need to listen to it again, but I definitely think the first half of the album is wayyy better.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on April 05, 2012, 11:43:47 PM
The first 5 songs are amazing. From them on... Uh, it's okay but doesn't keep up (Except from Internal Landscapes and TBATE. It's strange, I got on to Sunlight the first time I heard it and I think it's amazing unlike what some people have said before.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 06, 2012, 08:09:49 AM
I honestly don't think there's a really weak song on WS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pyroph on April 06, 2012, 08:59:32 AM
The first 5 songs are amazing. From them on... Uh, it's okay but doesn't keep up (Except from Internal Landscapes and TBATE. It's strange, I got on to Sunlight the first time I heard it and I think it's amazing unlike what some people have said before.

I was referring to to WHBWH, haven't listened to WS yet.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 06, 2012, 09:33:08 AM
I need to listen to it again, but I definitely think the first half of the album is wayyy better.

Interesting, second half has Universal, Hindsight and A Simple Mistake. (generally regarded three of the best songs on the album)  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on April 06, 2012, 10:37:16 AM
Is weather Systems out? In the US, it comes out the 24th I think...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lelanddt on April 08, 2012, 11:32:12 PM
Weather Systems is coming Dangerously close to passing WHBWH. I don't think I've heard a more beautiful piece of music than Internal Landscapes....ever.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 09, 2012, 12:16:10 AM
Is weather Systems out? In the US, it comes out the 24th I think...
No, but it has leaked (haven't listened to the leak myself).
I need to listen to it again, but I definitely think the first half of the album is wayyy better.

Interesting, second half has Universal, Hindsight and A Simple Mistake. (generally regarded three of the best songs on the album)  :P
...But it also has Get off, Get Out, which many people consider the weakest song. I agree that Universal and especially ASM are awesome but I haven't found Hindsight that excellent.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on April 09, 2012, 04:37:34 AM
Get Off, Get Out is one of my favorites actually. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on April 09, 2012, 05:36:16 AM
AOTY

I was underwhelmed at first because the songs on the first half seem to use similar formulas. But around the fifth listen, the album really affected me. It's one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard and I almost teared up at Lightning Song. On a more technical note, I'm impressed with the sparkly production and the extent to which Vincent's vocals have improved. Hard to believe this was the same guy on The Silent Enigma and Eternity. As of now, We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems and are neck and neck for me. The former wins in terms of songwriting, the latter wins in terms of atmosphere.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 09, 2012, 08:38:22 AM
I finally got 'We're Here Because We're Here' yesterday. I'm enjoying the hypnotic nature of the songs, but not sure how much I could take of it in one sitting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on April 09, 2012, 05:17:25 PM
I could take so much of that album in one sitting. :heart :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 15, 2012, 08:57:26 PM
The Hindsight version of Are You There :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on April 15, 2012, 09:31:07 PM
A Natural Disaster -> Hindsight -> We're Here Because We're Here -> Falling Deeper -> Weather Systems

That right here is the most perfect (And longest) 10-year-span album streak I can think of the latest 10 years of music. I know it isn't EXACTLY 10 years, but I doubt they're gonna release something on 2013 :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 15, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on April 16, 2012, 12:13:10 AM
Anathema have developed into a snooze fest for me.
Every song is a ballad and after a while everything tends to sound the same.
That said WS is a nice listen, but they need some variety in there.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on April 16, 2012, 04:28:49 AM
Just got my copy of Weather Systems in the mail. Hadn't listened to any song from WS before this. I'm now two songs in, and this is just.... AMAZING
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on April 16, 2012, 11:43:33 AM
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio

I think he's done it chronologically.. Although I'd probably put A Natural Disaster at the top myself (Weather Systems pre-order hasn't arrived yet).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 16, 2012, 05:03:24 PM
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio

I think he's done it chronologically.. Although I'd probably put A Natural Disaster at the top myself (Weather Systems pre-order hasn't arrived yet).

It was supposed to be a joke post but looking over it, it doesn't really come off quite that way, does it? :P OH WELL.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on April 17, 2012, 06:30:01 AM
Falling Deeper above Weather Systems? SADFACE. I love all of their stuff, though, so it's okay :coolio

I think he's done it chronologically.. Although I'd probably put A Natural Disaster at the top myself (Weather Systems pre-order hasn't arrived yet).

It was supposed to be a joke post but looking over it, it doesn't really come off quite that way, does it? :P OH WELL.

Haha, fair enough. Still waiting for new album to arrive, grrrrr
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 17, 2012, 07:00:39 AM
I got my copy of WS today. Cool stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 17, 2012, 07:01:20 PM
I got my copy of WS today. Cool stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on April 18, 2012, 05:14:24 PM
I got Weather Systems yesterday.  It's my first Anathema album.  It's good.  Very good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on April 18, 2012, 06:08:51 PM
Got the CD/DVD-V Digibook version from Burning Shed today!
I am loving it so far, but Christer-Andre Cederberg made quite the confusing 5.1 mix. Sometimes it is pretty good, others times it is quite bad.
I hope Steven is able to mix their next record or at least give some pointers to this new guy.  Oh well....at least the Digibook is beautiful!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on April 19, 2012, 01:57:04 AM
Also received my copy yesterday. I think it's pretty good and I reckon it'll grow on me too  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 19, 2012, 06:26:53 AM
Christer-Andre Cederberg made quite the confusing 5.1 mix. Sometimes it is pretty good, others times it is quite bad.
I hope Steven is able to mix their next record or at least give some pointers to this new guy.  Oh well....at least the Digibook is beautiful!

haven't heard it yet (The Omega Order sadly didn't include the DVD in their otherwise wondrous package) — can you explain why it's "confusing"?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on April 19, 2012, 07:03:49 AM
Jesus, I'm freaking addicted to Untouchable, Part 1.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on April 19, 2012, 03:13:39 PM
Jesus, I'm freaking addicted to Untouchable, Part 1.

Tell me about it - Both parts are amazing :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on April 19, 2012, 03:57:09 PM
Jesus, I'm freaking addicted to Untouchable, Part 1.

Tell me about it - Both parts are amazing :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on April 19, 2012, 09:34:10 PM
Got My CD/DVD in today, but I got my MP3 download two days ago. Gotta say, this album is GOOD. It hasn't impacted me like WHBWH, but I suppose it's hard to top the first album you hear by a band, especially one as GOOD as WHBWH. This has the makings of a pretty good album, possibly in my Top 10 of 2012.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 19, 2012, 10:43:12 PM
This album is fucking amazing.

I dunno, it's hitting me harder than WHBWH right now.  Much harder.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 21, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Got my copy yesterday and I've listened to it once. It needs more listens and time to sink in, but right now my impression is that it's a good record, but I wish there was more variety - most songs rely on one theme that gets developed with a buildup and for that reason it's a bit exhaustive to listen to the full album at once. But who knows, maybe it'll end up being my favorite Anathema album after it has grown on me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on April 21, 2012, 09:44:16 AM
Wow, my first listen of the album just blew me away. I expected it would need some listens to grow, like WHBWH did, but it clicked right away. The only song that still feels a bit "meh" is " The Lost Child", right now my favourites are Untouchable part 1, The Gathering of the Clouds and The Storm Before The Calm.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 21, 2012, 10:11:12 AM
Got my copy yesterday and I've listened to it once. It needs more listens and time to sink in, but right now my impression is that it's a good record, but I wish there was more variety - most songs rely on one theme that gets developed with a buildup and for that reason it's a bit exhaustive to listen to the full album at once. But who knows, maybe it'll end up being my favorite Anathema album after it has grown on me.

Yeah I hear you. I also feel like the album is a bit more one dimensional then WHBWH, many of the songs seem to follow a "formula", even though they're good songs.
Apart from Untouchable (both parts) and The Lost Child, none of the other songs really make me all super-excited like WHBWH did.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on April 21, 2012, 10:34:57 AM
Wow. This album is just. Wow.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 21, 2012, 10:39:13 AM
INTERNAL LANDSCAPES.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 21, 2012, 01:04:00 PM
Wow, my first listen of the album just blew me away. I expected it would need some listens to grow, like WHBWH did, but it clicked right away. The only song that still feels a bit "meh" is " The Lost Child", right now my favourites are Untouchable part 1, The Gathering of the Clouds and The Storm Before The Calm.
Yeah, I'm loving those songs too and "The Lost Child" is just kinda "there" right now.

Right now, WS is sitting right at the top of the 'stupidly amazing' pile.  There's nothing else in that pile from this year yet.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on April 21, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
The Lost Child really picks up in the second half of the song. That one is definitely a grower.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 21, 2012, 02:15:01 PM
Got the album yesterday, love the packaging. I agree with TKIC, this is definitely at the top of the albums released this year.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on April 21, 2012, 02:15:52 PM
The Lost Child really picks up in the second half of the song.

Yeah, imo, the first half is one of the weaker parts of the album, while the second half is one of the best.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 21, 2012, 02:16:53 PM
First half of The Lost Child reminds me of older Anathema. Alternative 4/Judgement, maybe that's why I really love it.  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on April 21, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
First listen; damn, that was awesome!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 21, 2012, 11:52:01 PM
Setlist for the first night of the tour in Krakow (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2012/klub-studio-krakow-poland-4bde6782.html)

They played all off Weather Systems except Sunlight and Gathering of the Clouds (which coincidentally are my 2 least favorites at the moment!) plus Emotional Winter and Wings of God! :tup I also remember that in some topic on the official Anathema forum Danny said they may play Shroud of Frost and Barriers on the new tour so maybe those 2 will be played on some upcoming shows.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 03:32:54 AM
That setlist looks so awesome. Emotional Winter is one of my favorites, Universal, Thin Air, Fragile Dreams, Flying, man it looks awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on April 22, 2012, 09:41:03 AM
New album is pretty awesome, but not as good as the last one I think.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on April 22, 2012, 09:56:42 AM
The Storm Before the Calm is the best them.

I'M GETTING COLDER!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on April 22, 2012, 12:10:06 PM
The setlist looks good but they didn't play 2 of my favorite songs - Summernight Horizon and Leave No Trace. I hope they add at least one of those two if they come to America.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 22, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
New album is pretty awesome, but not as good as the last one I think.

More listens might change your mind. I think it's absolutely equal at the very least.

The Storm Before the Calm is the best them.

I'M GETTING COLDER!

The second half of that song blows me away every single time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 12:48:49 PM
How does it hold up against We're Here Because We're Here?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 22, 2012, 01:04:31 PM
How does it hold up against We're Here Because We're Here?
I think it's better, but others here disagree.

I'd say give it a listen and see for yourself. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 01:05:23 PM
Good insight  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 22, 2012, 01:10:55 PM
Good insight  ;)
:lol
Well, I'm just saying that there's a diversity of opinions on it right now, though most seem to favor it being weaker than WHBWH.

Personally, I think the quality of WHBWH is vastly overblown.  It's a good album, but I kinda start to lose interest during the last two tracks.  WS, so far, has me hooked throughout.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on April 22, 2012, 01:11:41 PM
How does it hold up against We're Here Because We're Here?
I'd say its equally as great as WHBWH. Its kind of like a continuation of that album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 01:18:56 PM
Good insight  ;)
:lol
Well, I'm just saying that there's a diversity of opinions on it right now, though most seem to favor it being weaker than WHBWH.

Personally, I think the quality of WHBWH is vastly overblown.  It's a good album, but I kinda start to lose interest during the last two tracks.  WS, so far, has me hooked throughout.

The last two tracks (Universal and Hindsight) are the best on the album. :O
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 22, 2012, 01:20:16 PM
^  :eek "Summernight Horizon" and "Thin Air" wish to have word with thee!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on April 22, 2012, 01:28:56 PM
Good insight  ;)
:lol
Well, I'm just saying that there's a diversity of opinions on it right now, though most seem to favor it being weaker than WHBWH.

Personally, I think the quality of WHBWH is vastly overblown.  It's a good album, but I kinda start to lose interest during the last two tracks.  WS, so far, has me hooked throughout.

The last two tracks (Universal and Hindsight) are the best on the album. :O
What? No.

^  :eek "Summernight Horizon" and "Thin Air" wish to have word with thee!
Plus "A Simple Mistake."
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
Ranking just because:

1. Universal
2. Hindsight
3. Thin Air
4. Summernight Horizon
5. A Simple Mistake
6. Presence
7. Get off, Get out
8. Dreaming Light
9. Angels Walk Among Us
10. Everything
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 01:42:30 PM
You put Everything at the end?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 01:47:08 PM
You put Everything at the end?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!

Well in my defense I love the album a lot. So sadly one song has to end up last, I still really like Everything if that makes you feel any better, my dear.  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 22, 2012, 01:51:05 PM
RANKIN' BOTH

Dreaming Light
Summernight Horizon
Angels Walk Among Us
A Simple Mistake
Universal
Thin Air
Everything
Hindsight
Get Off Get Out
Presence

Lightning Song
The Storm Before the Calm
Untouchable Pt. 1
The Beginning and the End
Internal Landscapes
The Gathering of the Clouds
Untouchable Pt. 2
Sunlight
The Lost Child
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 01:52:06 PM
You put Everything at the end?? WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!

Well in my defense I love the album a lot. So sadly one song has to end up last, I still really like Everything if that makes you feel any better, my dear.  :heart

Okay, that's alright then, as long as you're appreciating all the awesome  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 01:52:43 PM
Is it wrong that every time I read Zantera's posts I imagine a sexy woman reading them?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 01:54:22 PM
Maybe a little. Any reason you do that?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
The long-time Natalie Portman avatar....


God Zantera is so sexy.....
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 01:58:25 PM
Haha oh yeah!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 01:58:57 PM
I tend to change avatars after X amount of months to have something fresh, but I must admit that several people have pointed out their appreciation for that Portman-avatar.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 02:00:47 PM
Yes, I prefer it to the current one.


I used to search all over the place for your posts so that I could have something to look at whilst fapping.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 02:02:55 PM
You know you can just search on google to help you out with that  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 02:06:10 PM
You know you can just search on google to help you out with that  :P

There are also quite a few sites that makes it easier to fap. Just ask Tahlia here, she has loads of experience on the subject.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
Nah I don't need to use sites myself, I just flick through your photos on facebook jimmybob  :-*
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
You know you can just search on google to help you out with that  :P

That kind of takes away from the thrill of the hunt  :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 02:12:41 PM
Nah I don't need to use sites myself, I just flick through your photos on facebook jimmybob  :-*

Aww. Love you too.  :heart
Someone is getting both roses and chocolate for her next birthday.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 22, 2012, 02:14:50 PM
I know this isn't the right place to ask you about this, but the mood feels just right..... What is it about Oceansize that turns you on so much?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Yayayayay!

I'll try arrange a night with Natalie Portman for you but that may be tricky and I would probably end up having her for myself. She's damn hawt.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 22, 2012, 02:20:01 PM
I know this isn't the right place to ask you about this, but the mood feels just right..... What is it about Oceansize that turns you on so much?

Well, many reasons I guess. Mainly I think they combine different elements from genres that I hold very dear, like Post-Rock, Art-Rock, Progressive Rock, and they make something awesome out of it. Before I discovered them, PT used to be my number one band, and I guess the big difference between Oceansize and PT is that Oceansize are perhaps a bit more about soundscapes, a more "post-rock" influence, and seeing as it's one of my favorite genres I think it works very well with the otherwise Progressive sound. Plus, their entire catalogue is just breathtaking. They haven't made a single song that I don't like, and while the band has disbanded now, I haven't come across another band with such high "lowpoints".  :hat

Tahlia @ As long as I can watch, and possibly join in on you and Portman going at it, your suggestion might not be such a bad idea.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on April 22, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
Ranking just WHBWH because I haven't listened to Weather systems enough to really form an opinion.

Damn it, this is impossible. Everytime I choose one song as number one, at least 5 others come to my mind that would be equally deserving of number 1.

Another try:
1. Hindsight (only because I have some very fond memories of my last holidays attached to that song: one of the most beautiful sunsets I have witnessed in my life on the beach)
2. Universal (again, because of memories: That song really clicked for me when I listened to it on top of a Volcano on  La Reunion. I had just barely been fast enough to still get a good view of the whole crater. Clouds on all sides, about on the same height as I was. And then the singing starts: "Above the clouds we flew to heaven...". Yeah, it was pretty epic.)
3.Summer Night Horizon (just a really great tune)
4. A Simple Mistake (another memory from the same holiday, driving in the dark...)
5.Get Off, Get Out
6. Thin Air
7. Everything
8. Dreaming Light
9. Angels Walk Among Us
10. Presence

I just realised how much I really love this album... When the last song is still 8/10 and all the others are 9/10 or higher it's a really great album.. :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 22, 2012, 02:53:06 PM
For that description of Oceansize, I will allow you to join.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pain of occupation on April 22, 2012, 10:16:50 PM
I tend to change avatars after X amount of months to have something fresh, but I must admit that several people have pointed out their appreciation for that Portman-avatar.  :)

^this

Yes, I prefer it to the current one.

 ;D

I used to search all over the place for your posts so that I could have something to look at whilst fapping.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 73109 on April 23, 2012, 12:22:27 PM
How often do these dudes get compared to Dredg? I've been listening to the new album and it seems very similar.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 23, 2012, 12:39:43 PM
How often do these dudes get compared to Dredg? I've been listening to the new album and it seems very similar.

Never. I've never heard any similarities myself.  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on April 23, 2012, 12:40:09 PM
How often do these dudes get compared to Dredg? I've been listening to the new album and it seems very similar.

Never. I've never heard any similarities myself.  :P

Yeah, I really don't see much how they compare tbh.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 23, 2012, 01:17:24 PM
Untouchable is so amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 73109 on April 23, 2012, 01:20:27 PM
Both the bands have a somewhat proggy, grandiose feel to them. Like, both untouchables sound similar to songs like Catch Without Arms, The Canyon Behind Her, etc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on April 23, 2012, 01:26:51 PM
I don't see the similiarity either.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 73109 on April 23, 2012, 01:32:35 PM
ok
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on April 23, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
Anathema have never, and hopefully will never, produce anything as bad as Chuckles And Mr. Squeezy.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 23, 2012, 02:43:49 PM
I could kinda see a comparison to Porcupine Tree (though even then it's a bit of a stretch), but not Dredg.
As for Weather Systems, it drops in quality after the first two songs for me. The rest is still great, but not as good as Untouchable.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jag66 on April 23, 2012, 02:49:45 PM
As for Weather Systems, it drops in quality after the first two songs for me. The rest is still great, but not as good as Untouchable.

They have that name for a reason  :)
Internal Landscapes is the only song that gets close to the untouchables for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 23, 2012, 02:53:47 PM
Internal Landscapes is great, but I'm sorta expecting more from it. I don't know, I was expecting a really nice climax, but for me the song never really took off. If I would compare it to Hindsight (for logical reasons), I feel like Hindsight is a better closer, and I think it's a better song. Internal Landscapes is still a pretty beautiful song though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 73109 on April 23, 2012, 03:06:44 PM
So, where should I go from here?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on April 23, 2012, 03:32:02 PM
Probably going to be AotY for me.  My ranking:

Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Lightning Song
Sunlight
The Lost Child
Internal Landscapes
The Storm Before the Calm
The Gathering of the Clouds
The Beginning of the End
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 23, 2012, 04:43:10 PM
So, where should I go from here?

WHBWH is akin, as is Falling Deeper (though in a different way). i'd also say A Fine Day to Exit has a similar approach. if you like the weird semi-electronic stuff on "The Storm Before the Calm", try A Natural Disaster for more. for more of the balls-out rock, try Judgement. for the dark and morose side, Alternative 4. and for metal-that-isn't-death-metal, Eternity is kind of a sadder Judgement, and The Silent Enigma is one of the best doom metal albums ever made (indebted to Metallica though it is).

and for what it's worth, i see your dredg comparison :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on April 23, 2012, 05:31:09 PM
Ranking:
1. Lightening Song
2. Untouchable, Part 1
3. Internal Landscapes
4. The Gathering of the Clouds
5. Sunlight
6. The Storm Before The Calm
7. Untouchable, Part 2
8. The Beginning and the End
9. The Lost Child

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 23, 2012, 05:38:32 PM
Not sure I get the Dredg comparison. Then again, the only Dredg album I've listened to all the way through was El Cielo
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: skydivingninja on April 23, 2012, 06:08:50 PM
So I got Weather Systems today.  It has some really amazing songs and some songs that are just okay.  I guess I'd put it on par with WHBWH. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 23, 2012, 06:35:55 PM
So I got Weather Systems today.  It has some really amazing songs and some songs that are just okay.  I guess I'd put it on par with WHBWH.

  You took the words right out of my mouth.

I just listened to it today, and there are some really incredible highs on the album, but some parts are just so-so. Overall I do think its a great album and I'll probably like it better on repeated listens.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OsMosis2259 on April 23, 2012, 07:02:33 PM
Nice review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AbZNsDSO1c
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 24, 2012, 09:45:07 PM
Finally got around to listening to Weather Systems, and it will probably take a while longer, but as of right now....


WS>WHBWH
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on April 25, 2012, 12:31:39 AM
Anathema is rapidly becoming my favorite band. Anyone who hasn't checked out their older material needs to do so. I'm not necessarily talking about the death doom stuff (which I don't care for) but albums like Eternity, Alternative 4 and Judgment. They're as good as the recent ones in my opinion. Even though I love Weather Systems, the aspect that I don't like is that it's very safe and saccharine. Anyone notice how a few of the songs use similar formulas? It's still my AOTY (so far), but I wish they'd return to making music that's a little more experimental.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on April 25, 2012, 12:35:38 AM
Still check out the death doom stuff.  It's pretty radular too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 25, 2012, 01:56:50 AM
I don't care much for Serenades, but I think The Silent Enigma is one of their best. It's the album where Vincent starts singing as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on April 25, 2012, 03:13:39 AM
I can't get into the death doom stuff because of the semi-growled vocals. I didn't mean to imply that others shouldn't check out those albums though. I really gotta stop posting here at 4:00 AM, LOL.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 25, 2012, 11:26:25 AM
For anyone who has bought Weather Systems off of the U.S. Itunes, are you having this problem with downloading Lightning Song:

(https://i1182.photobucket.com/albums/x459/phoenix87x/Screenshot2012-04-25at60705AM.png)

Its making me  :sadpanda:

because I really love Lightning song.  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: True Death of Life on April 26, 2012, 09:49:28 PM
Just got Weather Systems a few days ago; incredible. I'd never heard Anathema before---oh my god. I can't stop.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 26, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
Just got Weather Systems a few days ago; incredible. I'd never heard Anathema before---oh my god. I can't stop.

As I'm sure you probably know by now, you need to check out We're Here Because We're Here.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 27, 2012, 02:53:00 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 27, 2012, 02:54:22 AM
I'm almost surprised sometimes when people don't know Anathema. I don't mean that in a negative or condescending way, but a lot of people here loves PT for example, and I think Anathema is a band that most PT-fans would be able to enjoy.
Still, great to see more love!  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 27, 2012, 04:22:59 AM
This past week, Weather Systems pretty much owned my life. No words can describe how much I love that album.  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on April 27, 2012, 04:40:00 AM
^ Listening to it right now  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FretMuppet on April 27, 2012, 10:03:09 AM
Anathema planning to make MORE music?  :o

Furthermore, plans are being put in place to get back together with our invaluable and incredible musical partner, Christer Andre Cedeberg, to make more music, and the sounds being made are that we might plan something a little harder edged..

Taken from Danny's tour diary from their website
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on April 27, 2012, 10:09:03 AM
Just listened to it for the first time and I already think it's my favorite Anathema album. Will probably make my top 10 this year
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 27, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
Anathema planning to make MORE music?  :o

Furthermore, plans are being put in place to get back together with our invaluable and incredible musical partner, Christer Andre Cedeberg, to make more music, and the sounds being made are that we might plan something a little harder edged..

Taken from Danny's tour diary from their website

To be fair, half of Weather Systems consists of left over stuff from WHBWH. And we have the 7 years gap between AND and WHBWH. Naturally, the band must be itching to write stuff.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: True Death of Life on April 27, 2012, 09:28:58 PM
Just got Weather Systems a few days ago; incredible. I'd never heard Anathema before---oh my god. I can't stop.

As I'm sure you probably know by now, you need to check out We're Here Because We're Here.

Well, I know now--thanks!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 28, 2012, 05:08:49 AM
What do you guys think the chances of Anathema doing a small U.S Tour with-in the next year are?

    I saw that they are touring Europe until October, but I really hope they get over here sometime in 2013. Fingers Crossed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 28, 2012, 06:59:54 AM
Anathema planning to make MORE music?  :o

Furthermore, plans are being put in place to get back together with our invaluable and incredible musical partner, Christer Andre Cedeberg, to make more music, and the sounds being made are that we might plan something a little harder edged..

Taken from Danny's tour diary from their website
They wrote loads of songs in the period between AND and WHBWH and some of them are still unreleased - one song, No One is Free, is on Youtube; maybe some of the unreleased stuff will end up on the next release. The mention about harder edge made me interested since Weather Systems is a bit too repetitive at times IMO and I'd like something more energetic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 28, 2012, 08:46:56 AM
What do you guys think the chances of Anathema doing a small U.S Tour with-in the next year are?

    I saw that they are touring Europe until October, but I really hope they get over here sometime in 2013. Fingers Crossed.

I sure hope so. I would kill to see them live
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: skydivingninja on April 28, 2012, 09:35:31 AM
Weather Systems is growing on me more.  I quite like it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on April 28, 2012, 10:27:00 AM
What do you guys think the chances of Anathema doing a small U.S Tour with-in the next year are?

    I saw that they are touring Europe until October, but I really hope they get over here sometime in 2013. Fingers Crossed.

I doubt it. :( I saw them opening for Blackfield last year, but it was only Daniel and Vincent that could make it over (still the best opener I've ever seen). Maybe if another band picks them up as an opener, but I don't think they will be able to do a headlining tour over in the states anytime soon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on April 28, 2012, 04:22:12 PM
Just returned from the show in Holland. Holy fuck that was good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on April 28, 2012, 04:24:01 PM
Just returned from the show in Holland. Holy fuck that was good.

So you were there too?
yeah, it was great!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 28, 2012, 04:36:08 PM
^^^   I am so jealous.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on April 28, 2012, 07:37:35 PM
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MIND

IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: crazyaga on April 28, 2012, 11:23:10 PM
The story of i came to know anathema is kinda weird.
2 years ago i told my friend i dont really like children of bodom. he told me "dude, just listen to this song!" and he downloaded the song "angelica" to my phone through bluetooth. i listened to it and loved it, but i couldnt belive it was cob. the song got stuck in my head, and i searched it and searched it on the net and than i discovered thats its actually a song by some band called "anathema". after that i checked some other stuffs by them.

im impressed from weather systems. very great album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on April 29, 2012, 07:03:56 PM
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MIND

IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
THIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 04, 2012, 12:58:31 PM
OK, so lately I've been trying to stretch out a bit with the music I check out.  I am currently on my first spin of "Weather Systems" and my reaction is:

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Now, I haven't read the entire thread, but I will go back and review it.....I've heard they used to be a doom metal band? 

This music is....beautiful, haunting, moving, uplifting, soaring, introspective.....moody. 

How does a doom metal band evolve into...this?  Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing it at all.  The writing is inspired, even if, from a stylistic standpoint, it's not necessarily in my wheelhouse.  I don't know how often I will listen to it, but wow, the use of dynamics here is amazing.   :hefdaddy

I can honestly say that I don't have anything like this in my CD collection. 

So is "We're Here Because We're Here" in a similar vein to this?




Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ravenheart on May 04, 2012, 01:01:51 PM
It's in a similar vein with noticeable differences. Both WS and WHBWH are their most positive and uplifting albums, whereas their previous efforts are darker. If you like Weather Systems, you'll probably like WHBWH.

Their first 2 albums were doom/gothic metal, and from then on they took a more alternative rock approach.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 04, 2012, 01:05:15 PM
Thanks for the reply, Ravenheart  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 04, 2012, 01:06:47 PM
My god, "The Storm Before The Calm" is INCREDIBLE  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on May 04, 2012, 01:44:06 PM
^Yeah, I absolutely love The Storm Before the Calm, it's got one of the greatest build-ups in any Anathema song, and the ending is just :O

 
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MIND

IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
THIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
AM I STILL HERE?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 04, 2012, 01:53:06 PM
The dynamics and the subtlety of this music are both incredibly well done.   :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: glaurung on May 04, 2012, 02:04:08 PM
How does a doom metal band evolve into...this?

If you listen to their albums going backwards (or forwards I suppose) it's actually a pretty gradual transition that makes a ton of sense.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 04, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
I guess maybe I will explore their catalog in reverse order since I started with their newest one.  Should be an interesting journey
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 04, 2012, 02:32:29 PM
I'm absolutely in love with WHBWH right now. It's all I've been listening to recently.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on May 04, 2012, 02:36:44 PM
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES MOVING THROUGH MY BODY OUT MY MIND

IT RISES UP AND FLOODS MY BRAIN
THIS IS FUCKING INSANE THIS IS FUCKING INSANE!!!
AM I STILL HERE?
AS ONE WITH THE FEAR.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on May 04, 2012, 02:47:18 PM
I read along to the lyrics of The Lost Child the other day while blasting the music... one of the most powerful songs on the record imo.

Definitely AOTY for me at this point.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 04, 2012, 02:49:28 PM
The lyrics really draw me in, I cannot imagine enjoying the music as much if the lyrics were replaced with some mediocre lines.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on May 06, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
Late to the party, but these guys were submitted in my roulette and after four listens to the whole WHBWH album I feel confident in saying: Anathema are amazing. I'll have to purchase this album soonish, maybe even on vinyl since it would probably feel great in that medium.

What should I go for next? Weather Systems?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 06, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
Late to the party, but these guys were submitted in my roulette and after four listens to the whole WHBWH album I feel confident in saying: Anathema are amazing. I'll have to purchase this album soonish, maybe even on vinyl since it would probably feel great in that medium.

What should I go for next? Weather Systems?

Weather Systems is like WHBWH v2.0, and by that I mean similar sounding. Positive and uplifting, sort of a "warm" feel. If you love WHBWH, you will most likely enjoy Weather Systems.
The older albums are just as good IMO, but they are a bit different. More depressive and darker lyrics, but still sort of Progressive without really being Progressive. (if that makes sense) Judgement is another album I highly recommend, most fans consider it the best album they've made.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phantasmatron on May 06, 2012, 12:37:39 PM
Finally got Weather Systems in the mail yesterday.  After one listen, I'd say it does feel like WHBWH 2.0.  Maybe not quite as good, but definitely has a pleasant, warm feel to it and I'm excited to get to know the songs better.

Then start looking at their discography from before WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on May 06, 2012, 12:41:18 PM
Umm I just saw theres a 5.1 edition of WHBWH, I might prefer that to the vinyl. I will check availability and prices for both formats and decide, and then I'll try WS and Judgement.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 06, 2012, 01:03:22 PM
imo, the next logical step after WHBWH/WS is actually A Fine Day to Exit. Judgement is a pretty different monster from what they do now (though it certainly isn't alien at all, unlike The Silent Enigma and Serenades).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 06, 2012, 01:08:54 PM
What about A Natural Disaster? A Fine Day to Exit is probably more similar to WHBWH and WS, but working backwards should probably work.

Also, while I haven't quite digested Serenades (apart from Sleepless), I must say that The Silent Enigma is amazing, and every Anathema-fan should at least check it out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on May 06, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
Umm I just saw theres a 5.1 edition of WHBWH, I might prefer that to the vinyl. I will check availability and prices for both formats and decide, and then I'll try WS and Judgement.

Thanks!
5.1 version of WHBWH is available here. Cheapest place to buy it and this is the label's shop too!
https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition (https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on May 06, 2012, 01:51:48 PM
I was at the concert in Amsterdam too. It was incredible, save for a few things: the sound not being up to par during openers Untouchables Pt1&2, and a few f-ups by their drummer (no disrespect!). I saw them last year also with John Douglas ofcourse, but I don't remember any bad drumming from that gig.. this time it was a lot more noticeable. Especially on 'Internal Landscapes', he couldn't grasp the timing so they had to start over again. Nonetheless, the band was tight as hell on their pre-WS songs.

Highlights:

Storm Before the Calm
A Simple Mistake
Universal
The Lost Child
The Beginning and the End
Fragile Dreams
A Natural Disaster

I'm just listing a couple of standouts.. but just look at those songs. Jeebus, they really might be the best band in the world while being quite awkward on a technical level (for a prog-associated band). The songs and the energy is just so good.. it doesn't matter if someone misses a drum hit. The intention's there, and the gig sounded amazing. Love this band forever. Weather Systems is amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on May 06, 2012, 02:02:59 PM
That's unfortunate about the drumming, because I absolutely loved the drum work on the WS songs, especially Lightning Song and Sunlight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 06, 2012, 02:06:07 PM
Perhaps it's just the fact that they haven't played the new songs much yet? It will probably work better once they get more used to them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: WindMaster on May 06, 2012, 02:55:39 PM
Did they have one drummer playing all the songs at the show? On Weather Systems, they have a bunch of different band members playing drums for different songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FretMuppet on May 07, 2012, 02:58:43 AM
Did they have one drummer playing all the songs at the show? On Weather Systems, they have a bunch of different band members playing drums for different songs.

Yeah John Douglas is the only drummer for the shows. I don't know why they kept changing musicians for Weather Systems, the same goes for the bassist. Jamie tours with them and he played on one song on the album, but its also strange how he wasn't in the promo pics they put up couple of months ago
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 07, 2012, 03:20:27 AM
Did they have one drummer playing all the songs at the show? On Weather Systems, they have a bunch of different band members playing drums for different songs.

Yeah John Douglas is the only drummer for the shows. I don't know why they kept changing musicians for Weather Systems, the same goes for the bassist. Jamie tours with them and he played on one song on the album, but its also strange how he wasn't in the promo pics they put up couple of months ago
And in the Weather Systems booklet they thank their "live musicians" and Jamie is one of them.

Finland seems to love Anathema - Weather Systems went #15 on the charts and I've read two 5/5 reviews and one with 10/10 points! ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on May 07, 2012, 03:22:28 AM
Umm I just saw theres a 5.1 edition of WHBWH, I might prefer that to the vinyl. I will check availability and prices for both formats and decide, and then I'll try WS and Judgement.

Thanks!
5.1 version of WHBWH is available here. Cheapest place to buy it and this is the label's shop too!
https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition (https://www.theomegaorder.com/ANATHEMA-Were-Here-Because-Were-Here-Special-Edition)

Thanks for the heads up, I didn't know that site. I ordered that special edition, can't wait until it gets here and I can listen to it in sweet wilsonesque 5.1 surround.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on May 07, 2012, 07:49:11 AM
In general I prefer hi-res 5.1 over vinyl, but I got the vinyl of the new album because it came in a super cheap bundle during The Omega Order's sale.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 08, 2012, 04:41:25 AM
SEPTEMBER
22-09-2012    Roman Ampitheater, Plovdiv, BULGARIA    Buy Tickets

This is why I'm excited about it if you've missed the post earlier.
Oh yeah. It is happening. Tickets 19$-35$, nice.

This is going to be amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TVC 15 on May 10, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
Okay, I'm sold.  Listening to WHBWH on Spotify and am enjoying the emotional highs and lows this album brings.  The hooks and vocal harmonies are crazy good.  This stuff reminds me of some of Enchant's slower, more contemplative moments too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 11, 2012, 01:29:07 AM
If Anathema aren't releasing a Gothenburg-date this fall soon (since they have with Oslo and two in Finland) I might just poke my eyes out with a fork. Oh the horror.  :\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 11, 2012, 02:07:56 AM
Apparently the producer Crister Andre-Cederberg played most of the bass. It's weird that they're choosing to use session musicians. I guess we'll never really know the logistics of this whole thing. The band members live all over Europe, so that might have something to do with it.

Also, ALTERNATIVE 4 is freakin' incredible. Beautiful music. The lyrics are pure poetry. I overlooked this album for way too long.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on May 11, 2012, 03:15:53 PM
Alternative 4 is amazing indeed :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 12, 2012, 02:40:28 AM
Yes, it is! :tup As much as I like all Anathema stuff, A4 is just pure perfection.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 12, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
I love the Pink Floyd and Bad Religion covers on the reissue.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 12, 2012, 01:11:17 PM
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
I love the Pink Floyd and Bad Religion covers on the reissue.

agreed, i actually find the majority of the album pretty lackluster, save those Danny-written songs and the title track. the album mix also drives me up the wall (as a general thing).

and i hate the covers! i suppose they are well done for what they are, but "Your Possible Pasts" is absolutely terrible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 12, 2012, 01:46:53 PM
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.

Those three tunes are definitely highlights, but Empty and Lost Control are amazing as well. I don't think it's fair to call him overrated because he's pretty obscure.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 12, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.

Those three tunes are definitely highlights, but Empty and Lost Control are amazing as well. I don't think it's fair to call him overrated because he's pretty obscure.
I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.

Lost Control and the title track are my favorites of his.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 12, 2012, 02:41:12 PM
I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.

I've only encountered one fan like that, but yeah, it tends to happen, especially if the band was at a creative peak.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on May 12, 2012, 06:24:10 PM
Fortunately that was nowhere near their creative peak.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on May 12, 2012, 09:15:20 PM
Bought the album this past Monday, I've had it on my ipod awhile longer, but it's such a great album to drive around town to.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 13, 2012, 01:27:37 AM
I love Alternative 4 but I think Duncan Patterson is a little overrated (I'm not familiar with anything else he's done so it may be a bit unfair to call him overrated). He is a great songwriter but my favorite tracks are the 3 that Danny wrote - Fragile Dreams, Regret, and Inner Silence.
I agree that those 3 songs Danny wrote are great, but Lost Control is my favorite Anathema song and Empty, Feel and the title-track are very good too. I also have all the Antimatter albums and Duncan has written some good stuff on those records too (for example Line of Fire, Relapse, Reality Clash and Flowers), although some of his compositions tend to drag on too long and TBH I prefer Mick Moss' songs.
I guess overrated isn't the right word to use but a lot of fans seem to think that he's a god and Anathema sucks without him.

I've only encountered one fan like that, but yeah, it tends to happen, especially if the band was at a creative peak.
Yeah, I guess it's like the situation with DT and Kevin Moore. However, I think the amount of newer Anathema fans who ignore Duncan's impact on the band is a bit bigger so it's not like he's THAT overrated. Alternative 4 is my favorite Anathema record and while Anathema haven't made an album as excellent since then (though Judgement and WHBWH come pretty close), they have managed to continue strong and had Duncan not left, we wouldn't have Antimatter so it was the best for both parties.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 01:52:04 AM
Patterson also wrote many of the songs on Eternity, which is also an amazing album. Personally I think he added a lot to Anathema, but I don't think him leaving was all bad. I don't think Anathema has gotten worse or anything, he wrote good songs back on Eternity and Alternative 4, when he left Danny and Vincent started writing more, and we all know how good they are at writing songs now. So it's all good.  :hat

Eternity and The Silent Enigma should get more love, amazing albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jirpo on May 13, 2012, 02:12:54 AM
I have their latest two, what album should I get next? I don't really care about what style of music it is or if it sounds like those two :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 13, 2012, 02:31:23 AM
Judgement and Alternative 4 seem to be the most popular pre-WHBWH albums, they're also my 2 favorite Anathema records. A Natural Disaster is generally well-liked too, although it's not one of my favorites. But of course, if you want some quality death/doom metal, you could give The Silent Enigma a listen! ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 13, 2012, 02:31:31 AM
I have their latest two, what album should I get next? I don't really care about what style of music it is or if it sounds like those two :p

A Fine Day to Exit is probably their closest one to WHBWH and WS, it also has a sort of "summer"-feel to it, possibly due to the cover of a beach. Others would maybe say Judgement or A Natural Disaster, they are slightly darker lyric-wise and music-wise, but still very much Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on May 19, 2012, 06:36:28 PM
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.

It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.

My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 19, 2012, 06:59:10 PM
Speaking of Internal Landscapes, where does the clip about near death experiences come from? Was that in an interview or something? Definitely something that attracted my attention to Anathema, both of the most recent albums.

"Life is not the opposite of death. Death is the opposite of birth, life is eternal."
 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on May 19, 2012, 07:58:04 PM
Its an interview with Joe Geraci from 1981 according to the liner notes. I'm curious what the source on that is too, if it was from some documentary or something.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on May 19, 2012, 08:34:27 PM
I don't remember where I got the link from, but it was from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6U01qU7Ho&t
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 19, 2012, 08:49:13 PM
I don't remember where I got the link from, but it was from this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S6U01qU7Ho&t

Thanks man! Very interesting stuff, NDE's.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ZBomber on May 19, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Hey and Danny even commented on that video, that's so cool! :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on May 20, 2012, 07:55:23 PM
Eternity is a flawed yet incredible album. Radiance is epic from the 3:12 mark to the end of the match. It's incredible. And that ending.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 20, 2012, 08:14:05 PM
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.

It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.

My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
One of the Cavanaghs (forgot if it was Danny or Vinny) said in an interview that their next album is going to be heavier. I like the softer style of WS a lot but I'm glad that they're not going to keep going in the same direction.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 20, 2012, 08:15:41 PM
I'm just listening to Eternity for the first time, now that I've had time to digest WS and WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 20, 2012, 08:34:36 PM
Eternity is a flawed yet incredible album. Radiance is epic from the 3:12 mark to the end of the match. It's incredible. And that ending.
agreed on all counts. Eternity's definitely got career highlights (the title track suite, "Angelica," and i quite like the re-recording of "Sleepless" that was a bonus track), but also career lowlights (i cannot stand their cover of "Hope," and otherwise there are some real energy suckers placed poorly throughout). i would argue it was Duncan Patterson's last stand, as all the songs i dislike on Alternative 4 were written by him (with the exception of the title track, which i quite like).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FretMuppet on May 21, 2012, 01:29:11 AM
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.

It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.

My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.
One of the Cavanaghs (forgot if it was Danny or Vinny) said in an interview that their next album is going to be heavier. I like the softer style of WS a lot but I'm glad that they're not going to keep going in the same direction.

Vinny said it was gonna be heavier, Danny said its gonna be more electronic, along the lines of "The Storm Before the Calm"
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 21, 2012, 02:13:59 AM
I have mixed feelings about Eternity: it does have some truly great songs (Angelica, Far Away, Eternity suite, Suicide Veil) but there are also some songs I'm not keen on (Radiance, Hope). It's like a transition album from the death/doom era to the atmospheric rock era and it seems that the guys weren't sure what to do when they made the album: the guitars are still tuned down to B like on the earlier albums, but the songs don't need that much heaviness - it's like they tried to make an atmospheric album while keeping the heavy edge, but IMO they didn't completely succeed in that. The muddy production and Vinny's unrefined vocals don't help either and I think the acoustic versions of the songs (Far Away and Eternity 3 on the special edition and Angelica on Hindsight) do them more justice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 21, 2012, 02:16:01 AM
I think Eternity is pretty great. I would rank both The Silent Enigma and Alternative 4 higher, but still a great album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 21, 2012, 08:16:15 AM
Had the new album for about a week but still haven't had time to listen to it... Great to see the positive reactions because I really liked the last one.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 21, 2012, 09:35:33 AM
Eternity's got some cool stuff on it and I actually like the cover of Hope. But yeah, I think Alternative 4 and Judgement are pretty much the pinnacle of the old Anathema. I want to post this interview with Duncan that I came across recently:
https://autumnsphere.blogspot.com/2012/01/interview-with-duncan-patterson.html?

Danny said on the Anathema forums that he appreciates Duncan's perspective, but in my opinion, he comes off as very condescending to the abilities of the other band members. I'm not going to deny that he's a great songwriter, and that he was the workhorse of Anathema for quite some time. But when you start acting like the band is running off of your fumes, you're just going to look like a douche.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 21, 2012, 09:46:31 AM
He might have a point about how it used to be during the Eternity/Alternative 4 days, since he was the primary writer back then. But since he left, I think the band has done pretty awesome. So, it's not like they're struggling. I do hope that Vinny and John gets to write more for future albums though. I love Danny's writing, but if I have to say something negative about Weather Systems, I would say that some of the songs are pretty similar in terms of ideas/sound/structures, and a little more John/Vinny in the blend would make it more interesting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 21, 2012, 10:10:56 AM
Yeah, John and Vincent are brilliant songwriters as well. Re-Connect and Get Off, Get Out are two of my favorites.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 21, 2012, 11:05:22 AM
I can't see the comparison of WS and WHBWH at all. WS sounds vastly different to me - the only thing connecting them is that they are both 'happy', unlike previous albums. The musical content is very distinctly different between them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on May 21, 2012, 12:56:58 PM
I can't see the comparison of WS and WHBWH at all. WS sounds vastly different to me - the only thing connecting them is that they are both 'happy', unlike previous albums. The musical content is very distinctly different between them.

Well, both album's musical way is mostly alike. The feeling can be changed, since WS is happy and WHBWH is not but energetic. Same vocal, same guitar tones, same arrangements. But I can say this album is a bit heavier.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FretMuppet on May 21, 2012, 01:49:14 PM
WS is waay more organic sounding with the acoustics, piano, orchestra and whatnot
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 22, 2012, 12:56:09 AM
Anyway, I want to post this interview with Duncan that I came across recently:
https://autumnsphere.blogspot.com/2012/01/interview-with-duncan-patterson.html?

Danny said on the Anathema forums that he appreciates Duncan's perspective, but in my opinion, he comes off as very condescending to the abilities of the other band members. I'm not going to deny that he's a great songwriter, and that he was the workhorse of Anathema for quite some time. But when you start acting like the band is running off of your fumes, you're just going to look like a douche.
Duncan may sound condescending but at least he's not a douche like his successor Dave Pybus was - just read these comments from Danny: https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net//news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=2656
Quote from: Danny Cavanagh
Dave is a little weasel (to quote a member of CRADLE OF FILTH). who used ANATHEMA completely for his own ends. He spent 5 (five!) days in the studio during the entire time of the A Fine Day To Exit sessions (3 months altogether) he only did this for his own advantage, and he was really pissed off that he didn't get the same publishing royalties (songwriter's money) as the rest of the band, even though he stopped Duncan being paid, even though he hated us anyway, he never wanted Les to join the band, he never really liked any of the songs from the band (he pretended to like Judgement), he refused to write songs or become truly involved in the process, he would spread sh.t about ANATHEMA on the net, pretendind to be Vinny in the chat room on occasion! And he constantly complained about being in a band with bastards! And to top all this off, Vinny was begging him not to leave (at first), and didn't even want his own brother Jamie (genuine, talented, understanding bloke) to play in the band (at first, he has understood since then). Some people have no clue about what has actually been happening, and this includes some band members!

Danny has also said that Pybus was ashamed of Anyone, Anywhere and said it was just an attempt to write a sad song with fake emotions, which is sad IMO because I think AA is a good song although it's not honest. I guess the band (or at least some members) feel that way too since they played it a lot on the 2009 tour.
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Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 22, 2012, 01:46:57 AM
Wow. I knew there was some tension with Pybus but I didn't know it was that bad. Serves him right that he ended up in Cradle Of Filth. It seems like Anathema was destined to be a nepotistic band. Anyone outside of the Cavanagh/Douglas families is bad luck.
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Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2012, 01:49:28 AM
I've always been a bit surprised over the fact that Jamie hasn't been a full time member. They really have a nice thing going on, the three brothers are pretty close, and that is a nice foundation to build something on.
Sure there are examples when brothers end up acting like jerks (*cough* Oasis) but I hardly doubt any of the Cavanagh's would backstab each other.
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Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on May 22, 2012, 01:55:43 AM
I agree. I think Jamie and the bass in general could be a little more utilized. But I'm nitpicking as usual. I've got to stop being so hard on Anathema because they're probably my favorite band at the moment!

I would actually have a hard time being in a band with family members. I don't know why, but something about that dynamic would be uncomfortable for me.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on May 22, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
Picked up WHBWH yesterday.  I've been through it once.  Didn't quite hit me as hard as Weather Systems, but I'll definitely have to give it a few more spins to dig deeper into it.
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Post by: ? on May 22, 2012, 09:13:25 AM
I've always been a bit surprised over the fact that Jamie hasn't been a full time member. They really have a nice thing going on, the three brothers are pretty close, and that is a nice foundation to build something on.
Sure there are examples when brothers end up acting like jerks (*cough* Oasis) but I hardly doubt any of the Cavanagh's would backstab each other.
Jamie has been an official member, at least until this year when he suddenly stopped appearing in promotional photos and only played bass on one song on WS. I remember Vincent saying in some intie that they felt they didn't need any other guys in the studio except himself, Danny and John (and Lee for the female vox)
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Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2012, 09:43:42 AM
Well if Jamie doesn't want to write songs or so, that's cool, but I still think he should get to play bass on the songs.  :P (which wasn't the case on WS as you said)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: faemir on May 22, 2012, 10:56:53 AM
I can't see the comparison of WS and WHBWH at all. WS sounds vastly different to me - the only thing connecting them is that they are both 'happy', unlike previous albums. The musical content is very distinctly different between them.

Well, both album's musical way is mostly alike. The feeling can be changed, since WS is happy and WHBWH is not but energetic. Same vocal, same guitar tones, same arrangements. But I can say this album is a bit heavier.

I completely disagree. WS has a totally new feel where everything is a lot more immediate and in your face - lots of warm acoustic guitars and in your face melodies. WHBWH is much more of a slow burning atmospheric sort of album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kirksnosehair on May 22, 2012, 12:30:00 PM
I've listened to WHBWH twice now, not sure if I am going to buy any more of their discs if the back catalog is less and less like Weather Systems.  From what I understand they get heavier and darker the further back you go, is that right?
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Post by: Nick on May 22, 2012, 01:01:06 PM
Having just now looked over their Wiki page I never realized before how fucked up the band's history was.
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Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2012, 01:09:00 PM
I've listened to WHBWH twice now, not sure if I am going to buy any more of their discs if the back catalog is less and less like Weather Systems.  From what I understand they get heavier and darker the further back you go, is that right?

The first album, "Serenades" is a mix of Doom/Death with harsh vocals, the second, "The Silent Enigma" is still doom, but first album Vinny sings on so it's a bit more melodic. After that I wouldn't say that they have done any metal albums, the metal-guitars sorta drop a bit with each album, and while they are still a bit present on "Eternity" (the third album), there's not much of them. I would say that the rest of the albums are similar to WHBWH and WS in terms of heaviness, they aren't really more heavy, so it's the same kind of proginess, but lyrically and emotionally the stuff is more dark and sad, instead of uplifting and happy.
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Post by: FretMuppet on May 22, 2012, 01:10:43 PM
I've listened to WHBWH twice now, not sure if I am going to buy any more of their discs if the back catalog is less and less like Weather Systems.  From what I understand they get heavier and darker the further back you go, is that right?

Pretty much, but even though its on the complete other end of the musical spectrum, albums like Judgement and Alternative 4 are such masterpieces that you can't
ignore them. If you're not in the mood for more dark but atmospheric stuff, fair enough, but they're too good to ignore altogether
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Post by: SeRoX on May 25, 2012, 04:30:36 AM
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.

It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.

My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.

FUCK WHAT I SAID!

This album grows amazingly. Just can't stop listening it. Their best work from their atmospheric progressive era.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on May 25, 2012, 06:22:31 AM
Finally I got a chance to listen the Weather Systems which I found not good enough. Their music clearly starting to softer and softer. It sounds like WHBWH but new musics, that's all. Same vocal tone, same musical way.

It's good in its own but comparing to the previous albums it's so low in my list. This album gives positive energy somewhat. Vocals are restful just like the others. There is nothing special about arrangements. They are mostly alike.

My favoruite songs are: Internal Landscapes, Sunlight and Untouchable Pt 1 and 2.

FUCK WHAT I SAID!

This album grows amazingly. Just can't stop listening it. Their best work from their atmospheric progressive era.

   I totally agree. When I first listened to WS, I didn't like it at, but over a few more listens it has become my album of the year. Its rare that an album grows so signficantly, and I'm glad it does.
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Post by: kirksnosehair on May 25, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
I have gone back to Weather Systems several times.  WHBWH has not really compelled me to listen more.  I admit, though, that I have bought a TON of music lately that is competing with these for attention.


Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 25, 2012, 01:45:38 PM
Just ordered a combo set of (Judgement, a fine day to exit and natural disaster) so I can't wait for that to arrive.

     I've gotten a lot of mileage out of WS, WHBWH and FD, so I'm really really excited to start working my way backwards.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 25, 2012, 02:38:28 PM
I just bought the same set, it was really cheap.
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Post by: SeRoX on May 25, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
Just ordered a combo set of (Judgement, a fine day to exit and natural disaster) so I can't wait for that to arrive.

     I've gotten a lot of mileage out of WS, WHBWH and FD, so I'm really really excited to start working my way backwards.

From where? Amazon? I'm interested as well.

Plus, you will see the huge difference when you listen their older stuff. But they do well, really well.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on May 25, 2012, 02:56:26 PM
Just ordered a combo set of (Judgement, a fine day to exit and natural disaster) so I can't wait for that to arrive.

     I've gotten a lot of mileage out of WS, WHBWH and FD, so I'm really really excited to start working my way backwards.

From where? Amazon? I'm interested as well.

Plus, you will see the huge difference when you listen their older stuff. But they do well, really well.

   Here's it is:

https://www.amazon.com/Original-Album-Classics-Anathema/dp/B005CUB78C/ref=sr_1_10?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1337979265&sr=1-10

 Quite a pleasant surprise when I saw that this morning, especially since those were the exact 3 albums I was interested in. And for quite a bargain too.
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Post by: SeRoX on May 25, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
Thanks, dude. That's really cheap as well. I'll order it.  :tup
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 25, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
can you post pictures when you get it? i'm curious what they included and didn't, artwork-wise.
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Post by: glaurung on May 25, 2012, 07:09:05 PM
I have gone back to Weather Systems several times.  WHBWH has not really compelled me to listen more.  I admit, though, that I have bought a TON of music lately that is competing with these for attention.

Most of their albums have been growers for me. Just give it a try sometime later on and see what happens.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 26, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
can you post pictures when you get it? i'm curious what they included and didn't, artwork-wise.

there's actually not much packaging to speak of, which makes sense as cheap as it was.  It's just a small cardboard box with three cardboard sleeves inside, kinda like mini-album covers.

Here is a pic I found online:

(https://images.productserve.com/preview/3228/312070511.jpg)
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 26, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
I listened to Weather Systems and was blown away by how beautiful it is. It's perfect for bringing your.mind at ease.
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Post by: OsMosis2259 on May 26, 2012, 02:39:00 PM
Listened to the new album during a long drive yesterday.

Beautiful...
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Post by: senecadawg2 on May 26, 2012, 03:42:42 PM
Listened to the new album during a long drive yesterday.

Beautiful...

pretty pretty pretty beautiful.
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Post by: marztacy on May 27, 2012, 08:16:03 AM
Weather Systems is an absolutely incredible album! It encompasses a myriad of emotions that i can deeply relate to from love, beauty, positivity to heartbreak, depression and thats what makes it such a truly great album. Being able to identify with and be moved by the music makes it an extremely beautiful and touching album to me personally and it is easily in my top 5 albums of all time  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on June 01, 2012, 02:31:52 AM
Has anyone noticed how much Anathema cross references their songs? Judgement has a lot of allusions to A4 (Destiny Is Dead, "do you ever wonder why you were left alone"), Temporary Peace references cries on the wind and serenades, and A Simple Mistake mentions a moment in time. Another obvious one is "we're here cause we're here" in Gathering Of The Clouds. Can anyone think of any other examples?
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Post by: FretMuppet on June 01, 2012, 04:14:39 AM
"What you mean to me" - Inner Silence, Untouchable pt. 2

It seems The Storm Before the Calm originally had the lyric "we're here because we're here" when Danny played it in the video going through all the songs in the album
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 01, 2012, 08:15:11 AM
Darren White mentions mountains many times in his lyrics on Pentecost III:

"There is a whole mountain" "There are many mountains" -Kingdom
"How can you climb a mountain to kill a God?" "We do not need to climb a mountain" -We the Gods

I also hear "mountains" in the speech in Mine is Yours. Even Danny himself said "All that I can say now is that Vincent [Cavanagh, ed] is an excellent singer, cos he really can sing notes as well, and he has better ideas for lyrics, his lyrics are less about... There are no 'mountains', 'valleys' or 'gods' anymore. It's more real..." in this old interview. (https://web.archive.org/web/19990208222503/https://www.dse.nl/inferno/issue5/anathema.html) However, later he's changed his mind about Darren's lyrics, he calls Darren a "true poet" in the liner notes of Falling Deeper and The Silent Enigma reissue.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 01, 2012, 10:59:27 AM
i really don't think they're cross-references. "The Gathering of the Clouds" was written for WHBWH but left off, which is why the album title is from a lyric. the rest are either happenstance (the phrase "what you mean to me" in two Anathema songs is a cross-reference? really? that's a standard sappy lyric line, dude) or obviously unintentional (why would "Temporary Peace" intentionally have anything to do with Serenades? the lyrics don't support that just because they say the word!). the only one i see being possibly intentional is "Destiny is Dead" because Duncan was gone and it's instrumental, so the title could have been anything, yet they chose one that seems to reference the instrumental "Destiny" from A4. the rest is clearly crapshoot, imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on June 01, 2012, 05:57:10 PM
i really don't think they're cross-references. "The Gathering of the Clouds" was written for WHBWH but left off, which is why the album title is from a lyric. the rest are either happenstance (the phrase "what you mean to me" in two Anathema songs is a cross-reference? really? that's a standard sappy lyric line, dude) or obviously unintentional (why would "Temporary Peace" intentionally have anything to do with Serenades? the lyrics don't support that just because they say the word!). the only one i see being possibly intentional is "Destiny is Dead" because Duncan was gone and it's instrumental, so the title could have been anything, yet they chose one that seems to reference the instrumental "Destiny" from A4. the rest is clearly crapshoot, imo.

"Crying in the wind" and "serenade" occur in the same line in Temporary Peace. Seems like an intentional "nugget" for the fans. In that interview I posted with Duncan, he thought that Destiny Is Dead was aimed at him. Judgement in fact has a lot of lyrical stabs at him, another one being "do you ever wonder why you were left alone?" which is an obvious reference to "do you wonder why I prefer to be alone?" from Lost Control. Destiny from Alternative 4 is also not an instrumental. Destiny Is Dead from Judgement is the instrumental.

Another one is "get off, get out" in The Storm Before The Calm. Yes, a lot of the Weather Systems material was written for We're Here Because We're Here, so they share some lyrical motifs. I would interpret those sorts of things to be cross references. Devin Townsend is another artist who does this kind of stuff all the time.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 01, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
^ woops, fair call on "Destiny" there, i normally stop at "Regret" because "Destiny" is a pretty meh album ending (and apparently would have been fine as an instrumental? xD).

Devin obviously does it on purpose, though (i.e. direct riff reusage and obvious word choices that stick out), while all the ones besides WHBWH/WS for Anathema are lyrical only and fairly oblique. i think the case has indeed been made for the snubs at Patterson on Judgement, and while i suppose the "cries on the wind"/"serenades" thing in "Temporary Peace" is there, the lot of them simply make me go, "who cares?" the problem with bringing up Devin is that all of his moments of this device are so well done. when the "Voices in the Fan" reference happens in "Color Your World," i don't shrug my shoulders, i go god damn! this obviously isn't required for the intersong referencing (and Devin does indeed have some very subtle references), but i hardly see why it's even worth doing if you don't do it well.

now that i think more about your point, the references in "Temporary Peace" kinda make some sense: given that it's a track about finding some kind of absolution despite the temporariness, it does seem well-used in the sense that the references 'make peace' with the old Anathema sound, on the first record where they seriously departed from the mostly-metal they'd been playing up to that point.

in actual news, you can preorder Pentecost III for the first time on vinyl (https://www.burningshed.com/store/peaceville/product/261/3854) through Peaceville/Burning Shed now (release is in July). i think i'm gonna grab one — Pentecost is an underappreciated gem from their metal days and, imo, a perfect (if slower!) predecessor/companion to The Silent Enigma.

edit: also, for musical references, the bridge in "Pitiless" is built from the chord progression in "Forgotten Hopes." does this really count when they are basically part of a suite, though? how do people see those opening 4 tracks of Judgement, anyway?
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Post by: ? on June 02, 2012, 10:58:51 AM
i really don't think they're cross-references. "The Gathering of the Clouds" was written for WHBWH but left off, which is why the album title is from a lyric. the rest are either happenstance (the phrase "what you mean to me" in two Anathema songs is a cross-reference? really? that's a standard sappy lyric line, dude) or obviously unintentional (why would "Temporary Peace" intentionally have anything to do with Serenades? the lyrics don't support that just because they say the word!). the only one i see being possibly intentional is "Destiny is Dead" because Duncan was gone and it's instrumental, so the title could have been anything, yet they chose one that seems to reference the instrumental "Destiny" from A4. the rest is clearly crapshoot, imo.
I'm pretty sure the "moment in time" reference in A Simple Mistake is intentional - it's like saying "we were depressed back then but not anymore". The funny thing is that Anathema have played both ASM and Shroud of False at the same show lots of times! :lol

And about Forgotten Hopes; I don't remember who Danny said it is about or directed at but at least it's not Duncan, as far as I remember.
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Post by: ? on June 03, 2012, 01:44:41 AM
Sorry for the double post but I forgot to post about this:
in actual news, you can preorder Pentecost III for the first time on vinyl (https://www.burningshed.com/store/peaceville/product/261/3854) through Peaceville/Burning Shed now (release is in July). i think i'm gonna grab one — Pentecost is an underappreciated gem from their metal days and, imo, a perfect (if slower!) predecessor/companion to The Silent Enigma.
Pentecost seems to be a "forgotten" release and it does have some good stuff - I don't know if this is a controversial opinion but the original We the Gods beats the Falling Deeper remake 100-0 IMO. I do prefer the new Kingdom to the original one, though. Mine is Yours is a great song as well although the video is weird and Memento Mori is probably one of the heaviest Anathema songs ever. I guess P3 was left with so little attention due to the fact that its release was delayed so much (the reason being the merging between Peaceville and Music for Nations) and by the time they finally put it out Darren had been fired already and a few months later they released The Silent Enigma which took away the attention from Pentecost.
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edit: also, for musical references, the bridge in "Pitiless" is built from the chord progression in "Forgotten Hopes." does this really count when they are basically part of a suite, though? how do people see those opening 4 tracks of Judgement, anyway?
At least I consider them a suite although Deep and Forgotten Hopes work well on their own as well; it's the flow between them and the fact that Anathema have played those 4 songs back-to-back live that makes me think they're like one series of songs.
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Post by: redfish71 on June 24, 2012, 05:34:22 AM
could someone please explain the song meaning of Lightning Song.  I want to use it for something and want to make sure it is appropriate for the situation.  thanks!

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Big Hath on June 24, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
superficially, it seems to me it about a person that has found total peace at night during a thunderstorm and is in awe of the beauty that surrounds us on the earth.  The only lines I am struggling with are "I shed no tears, for you my dear".  Not quite sure how that fits.
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Post by: WindMaster on June 24, 2012, 01:51:35 PM
If you want to use it for something, you should be the one interpreting it, not us.  :) I think the meaning would be different to different people, and what really matters is what you think it means.
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Post by: redfish71 on June 24, 2012, 05:37:30 PM
It seems to me that it means that there is a love for someone and that someone doesnt realize it (or will not accept it) and if they would open their eyes they could see how beautiful their world would be if they would just let that person in. 

how far am i off?
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Post by: Big Hath on June 24, 2012, 06:56:12 PM
sounds good to me
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Post by: Heretic on June 24, 2012, 08:25:24 PM
I think it's basically about someone realizing their place in the world and finding their own inner peace. They realize that the world, despite all its treacheries and evils, is still a beautiful, wonderful place. They come to terms with life and find their own joy. This is well-represented by the image of lightning; as, lightning in itself can be a destructive, powerful, terrible thing-- just like our world-- but, even then lightning is still beautiful. As is our world.

The song is definitely being told to someone else who is listening, and the narrator urges the listener to open up their mind and see the world for what it really is -- a wonderful place. The narrator has come to understand that there's no more need to fear, to cry, or be pessimistic. The narrator has literally and figuratively "seen the light," if you will.

It's a beautiful song, one of my favorites they've ever written.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Cyclopssss on June 25, 2012, 02:33:13 AM
Bought WS and was totally blown away by the beauty of it. Still hasn't left my player since.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on June 25, 2012, 12:38:44 PM
I also got Weather Systems the other day (I have all post-doom metal albums now) and my word is it beautiful. I have never felt so touched by music as I have been by The Lost Child and Internal Landscapes. Awesome. Absolutely fantastic.
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Post by: ariich on June 25, 2012, 02:48:58 PM
Finally bought the new album yesterday.

HOLY CRAP

Amazing album, around as good as WHBWH, hard to know whether I'll slightly prefer it in the long run, but the quality is very close!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on June 25, 2012, 03:00:17 PM
I love listening to the guys speaking too. Watching some interviews with Vincent and it feels like someone I know is talking to me, maybe it's just cause we're from the same city, but still, I feel like I can relate to the band more.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Big Hath on June 27, 2012, 07:29:05 PM
it's probably just me, but I always feel like they are about to break into "Don't Fear the Reaper" during the chorus of "Deep"
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Post by: FretMuppet on June 28, 2012, 12:56:26 AM
it's probably just me, but I always feel like they are about to break into "Don't Fear the Reaper" during the chorus of "Deep"

Shit, can't unhear
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Post by: Big Hath on June 28, 2012, 09:08:50 AM
heh, I know!  It's crazy.
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Post by: NecessaryPain on July 01, 2012, 09:40:53 AM
God this new album is fucking incredible. I've listened to each track 50 times on average, and i'm still not bored of listening to it.

One of the best albums ever made, IMO. And I do prefer it to WHBWH but it's taken a while to say that.

Album of the year by a wide margin, IMO.
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Post by: Siberian Khatru on July 01, 2012, 09:51:18 AM
Def AOTY for me.
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Post by: Zantera on July 01, 2012, 10:24:43 AM
Top20 so far this year.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 01, 2012, 11:38:40 AM
Its easily my AOTY. I've listened to it over 30 times and I'm still not sick of it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 01, 2012, 12:23:47 PM
WS is definitely my album of the year and the funniest thing is that I didn't even like it on the first listen.
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Post by: SeRoX on July 01, 2012, 01:34:02 PM
Yes, top 5 album of the year.
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Post by: ariich on July 01, 2012, 05:02:34 PM
Yeah I really cannot get enough of this album, definite contender for AOTY! Such beautiful music!
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Post by: LCArenas on July 05, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
SHIT.

I can't listen to "The Beginning and the End" without listening simultaneously Riverside's "Left Out" in my head, and vice-versa. I think the two songs intros are quite similar, and I love both songs to death. Just wanted to say that.
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Post by: pkj on July 06, 2012, 09:52:59 AM
I really like 'Dreaming Light'.  How does that song measure up to the other stuff on the last two albums?
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Post by: jag66 on July 06, 2012, 03:20:03 PM
I really like 'Dreaming Light'.  How does that song measure up to the other stuff on the last two albums?

Dreaming Light is great, as is a lot of their other new (and old) stuff. Listen and find out!
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Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on July 13, 2012, 07:31:17 PM
Two months of heavy Anathema listening later and Eternity has actually shaped up to be my favorite album. You have the one two punch of Sentient and Angelica, the addictive cover of Hope, and the rest of the album's just so cool, and spacey, and experimental. Suicide Veil is also an outstanding fusion of their doom metal and Pink Floydian sounds. Anyone else love Eternity?
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Post by: pkj on July 13, 2012, 08:10:32 PM
Two months of heavy Anathema listening later and Eternity has actually shaped up to be my favorite album. You have the one two punch of Sentient and Angelica, the addictive cover of Hope, and the rest of the album's just so cool, and spacey, and experimental. Suicide Veil is also an outstanding fusion of their doom metal and Pink Floydian sounds. Anyone else love Eternity?
Yes, absolutely.  'Angelica' is probably one of my favorite songs.  It's also interesting from the perspective of the band's evolution -- at this point Vincent decided to really sing in a conventional manner, and although his performance is technically unpolished, there's so much raw talent there waiting to be cultivated.  And he did in fact take a big step on 'Alternative 4'.
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Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on July 13, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
Yes, absolutely.  'Angelica' is probably one of my favorite songs.  It's also interesting from the perspective of the band's evolution -- at this point Vincent decided to really sing in a conventional manner, and although his performance is technically unpolished, there's so much raw talent there waiting to be cultivated.  And he did in fact take a big step on 'Alternative 4'.

 :heart Angelica, especially the guitar melody. And that chorus-y bass sound underneath… perfection. The only iffy vocal part on the album for me is the bridge of Hope, but it's not a big deal.
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Post by: Perpetual Change on July 14, 2012, 11:36:58 AM
Weather Systems is easily my #1 album this year so far. I love everything about it. And I didn't even like WHBWH that much. Weather Systems just resonates with me so much more. It will be very difficult for something else coming out this year to displace it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on July 14, 2012, 11:53:00 AM
Listening to something like Angelica and then listening to Weather Systems shows how much Vinny has improved as a vocalist over time.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on July 14, 2012, 12:12:19 PM
I definitely like Weather Systems much more than WHBWH, although that album is still great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 14, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
Not only is WS my favorite album of the year, but Internal Landscapes is my favorite song of the year.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Scorpion on July 14, 2012, 01:31:57 PM
I got Eternity recently, and HOLY FUCK. These guys are good.

What should I get next?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on July 14, 2012, 01:38:07 PM
I got Eternity recently, and HOLY FUCK. These guys are good.

What should I get next?

Judg(e)ment, We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems. Enjoy.
Basically, everything that comes after Eternity is good though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 15, 2012, 01:34:12 AM
I got Eternity recently, and HOLY FUCK. These guys are good.

What should I get next?
I highly recommend Alternative 4, Judgement and the latest 2 albums.

EDIT: Just saw the Eternity discussion... We were talking about that album earlier in this thread and my opinion hasn't changed since: it's a good album but in the bottom half of Anathema discography for me. I find it pretty inconsistent, the muddy production brings the album down a bit and Vinnie has improved a lot as a singer since then. I prefer A4 and The Silent Enigma, the albums that came before and after Eternity.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 18, 2012, 05:21:54 AM
I bought The Brink by Alternative 4, Duncan's new band, yesterday and I'm liking it besides the overlong closing track. My favorite song so far is Still Waters. The style of the album is like a mixture of the Anathema album, Roger Waters-led era Pink Floyd and some of the more minimalistic and hypnotic Antimatter stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on July 19, 2012, 12:14:49 PM
Don't know if anyone here has been keeping up with any recent interviews but it looks like they will be filming a new DVD this year and with an orchestra!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on July 24, 2012, 07:34:11 AM
Now this is interesting... the copy of Serenades I bought a couple years ago replaces "Dreaming: The Romance" with four songs from The Crestfallen EP. Now that I found Dreaming The Romance on YouTube, I can safely say it's one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. Reminds me of the game Myst for some reason.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 24, 2012, 08:33:55 AM
While the songs on the EP may not be the peak of Anathema's career, they're 100 times better than Dreaming... IMO. But then again I'm not an ambient fan, I want something to actually happen in the songs! :P

On the topic of the DVD, I'm looking forward to it, I've heard they'll play some Falling Deeper stuff too and that would be great, especially since they have an orchestra with them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on July 24, 2012, 09:39:18 AM
While the songs on the EP may not be the peak of Anathema's career, they're 100 times better than Dreaming... IMO. But then again I'm not an ambient fan, I want something to actually happen in the songs! :P

On the topic of the DVD, I'm looking forward to it, I've heard they'll play some Falling Deeper stuff too and that would be great, especially since they have an orchestra with them.
It's kind of weird actually on the topic of Falling Deeper because in one interview Danny says they will play it and then in another he says they won't. Both interviews links are below.

https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/ (https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/)
(do you have a plan to release a live performance with orchestral band on DVD?
DC: Yes actually, we do! But it won’t be old songs such as songs in “Falling Deeper”. It would songs from you know, from “Judgment”, “Alternative4”, “A Natural Disaster”, “Weather Systems” and “We’re Here Because We’re Here”.)

https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html (https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html)
(In September we will answer even a DVD with the National Orchestra of Bulgaria, where we songs from "Weather Systems", "Falling Deeper", "We're Here Because We're Here" and a few older songs.)

Second interview is in German.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on July 26, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
While the songs on the EP may not be the peak of Anathema's career, they're 100 times better than Dreaming... IMO. But then again I'm not an ambient fan, I want something to actually happen in the songs! :P

After a year of heavy DT listening, I've been detoxing by listening to things that are super minimalistic. By the way, Dreaming syncs up nicely with J'ai Fait Une Promesse because both are in the key of D.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 27, 2012, 12:58:51 AM
It's kind of weird actually on the topic of Falling Deeper because in one interview Danny says they will play it and then in another he says they won't. Both interviews links are below.

https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/ (https://tikwid.com/news/music/interviews/question-and-answers-with-anathema/)
(do you have a plan to release a live performance with orchestral band on DVD?
DC: Yes actually, we do! But it won’t be old songs such as songs in “Falling Deeper”. It would songs from you know, from “Judgment”, “Alternative4”, “A Natural Disaster”, “Weather Systems” and “We’re Here Because We’re Here”.)

https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html (https://translate.google.ru/translate?hl=ru&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalnews.de%2Finterviews%2FDaniel%2BCavanagh%2Bvon%2BAnathema.1193.html)
(In September we will answer even a DVD with the National Orchestra of Bulgaria, where we songs from "Weather Systems", "Falling Deeper", "We're Here Because We're Here" and a few older songs.)

Second interview is in German.
Interesting... Which one is newer? I bet he has (or they have) changed his mind between those 2 inties and if the latter one is new, there'll probably be FD stuff. Anyway, this makes me even more anxious to see the setlist when they play that gig!

EDIT: The first interview is from late June while the German one is from early July so I assume what he's said later is what we should believe.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pkj on July 27, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show: 

https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c

Can Vince sing, or what? 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on July 27, 2012, 12:23:18 PM
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show: 

https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c

Can Vince sing, or what?

:clap:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 28, 2012, 09:26:00 AM
Instead of the obligatory album ranking, let's list our favorite songs from each album:

Serenades: They (Will Always) Die
The Silent Enigma: Restless Oblivion
Eternity: Eternity Pt. 3
Alternative 4: Lost Control (my #1 song from any Anathema album)
Judgement: One Last Goodbye
A Fine Day to Exit: title-track
A Natural Disaster: Balance
WHBWH: A Simple Mistake
Weather Systems: Untouchable (both parts or the first one if only one is allowed)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 28, 2012, 09:42:27 AM
Cool idea, ?.. something like this:

Serenades - Sleepless
The Silent Enigma - Sunset of Age
Eternity - Far Away
Alternative 4 - Regret
Judgement - Emotional Winter
A Fine Day to Exit - A Fine Day to Exit
A Natural Disaster - Flying
We're Here Because We're Here - Universal
Weather Systems - Untouchable (both parts)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: HarlequinForest on July 28, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Only listened to the last two albums so far.

WHBWH: Angels Walk Among Us
WS: Untouchable
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MondayMorningLunatic on July 28, 2012, 02:09:13 PM
Serenades- Sleepless
The Silent Enigma- A Dying Wish
Eternity- Angelica
Alternative 4- Fragile Dreams
Judgement- One Last Goodbye
A Fine Day To Exit- Temporary Peace
A Natural Disaster- Balance
We're Here Because We're Here- Summer Night Horizon
Weather Systems- Internal Landscapes
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pkj on July 28, 2012, 10:23:05 PM
Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody)
Eternity (Angelica)
Alternative 4 (Feel)
Judgment (One Last Goodbye)
A Fine Day to Exit (Leave No Trace)
A Natural Disaster (Flying)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 29, 2012, 01:04:24 AM
Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody)
:tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it. However, the '96 remake is pretty good as I find Darren's attempts at melodic harsh singing on the original pretty terrible (his growls aren't that bad, though) and obviously it's the only song from the album that fits their setlist nowadays, save maybe for the Falling Deeper versions, which haven't been played live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 29, 2012, 03:35:58 AM
I don't really like Darren's singing that much. And it's not about the harsh vocals because I listen to (and love) lots of harsh vocals, but I just don't particularly care for his singing in Anathema. I agree that the Sleepless-version of Vinny is better, but the original still has some charm to it. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Cyclopssss on July 29, 2012, 04:30:14 AM
[] Headspace / I am anonymous.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on July 30, 2012, 03:40:38 AM
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show: 

https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c

Can Vince sing, or what?

I didn't really find it that good, I think he was struggling to keep his voice somewhat quiet and that hurt his vibrato and sustain, it sounded kinda off. Maybe it's just me though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pkj on July 30, 2012, 09:13:36 PM
Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody)
:tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it.
With Lovelorn Rhapsody, it's all about that harmonized guitar riff that starts at 1:59.  'They Die', 'Sleep In Sanity', and 'Crestfallen' all have cool riffs of this sort.

The truth is that doom metal, of every sub-type, is probably my favorite kind of metal, so I'm happy to roll with this style.  I even find Darren to be an above-average vocalist for this genre.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on July 30, 2012, 09:27:30 PM
Check out this clip of Danny and Vincent (and Lee) performing 'Dreaming Light' on a BBC radio show: 

https://youtu.be/KraSqBrv39c

Can Vince sing, or what? 

I'm a huge of them but this is utterly terrible performance. He struggled so much and left breathless. Plus, I've never seen Anathema as a stage group. But gotta admit, in the studio they are, especially Vince, untouchable.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 01, 2012, 08:49:20 AM
Serenades (Lovelorn Rhapsody)
:tup for picking some other song than Sleepless! I mean, it's not bad but definitely the most overrated song on the album. I prefer at least They Die, Sleep in Sanity and Lovelorn Rhapsody to it.
With Lovelorn Rhapsody, it's all about that harmonized guitar riff that starts at 1:59.  'They Die', 'Sleep In Sanity', and 'Crestfallen' all have cool riffs of this sort.

The truth is that doom metal, of every sub-type, is probably my favorite kind of metal, so I'm happy to roll with this style.  I even find Darren to be an above-average vocalist for this genre.
Yeah, those harmonized riffs are cool and make the songs you mentioned stand out better than Sleepless, which is more goth rock with shouted vocals than doom metal, in my eyes. I like doom metal a lot as well but I don't find Darren a great vocalist, unfortunately. His growls sound strained and his melodic vocals sound off-key IMO (not to say that Vincent wasn't off-key sometimes on Eternity and Silent Enigma).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on August 28, 2012, 11:32:55 PM
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: wasteland on August 29, 2012, 03:50:59 AM
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.

What did you listen to?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on August 29, 2012, 03:56:34 AM
Slayer
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on August 29, 2012, 06:29:09 AM
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.

What did you listen to?

Weather Systems
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on August 29, 2012, 06:36:19 AM
Alright.  I need to check these guys out too.  Any sugesstions for albums?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on August 29, 2012, 06:42:56 AM
Weather Systems and We're Here Because We're Here, their latest releases.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on August 29, 2012, 06:44:16 AM
I will invest in 2 new CD's.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 29, 2012, 06:57:21 AM
Do it.

Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.

What did you listen to?

Weather Systems

So far that is my favorite album of 2012. As you said, incredibly beautiful
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Big Hath on August 29, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
Giving it my first listen, such beautiful music, absolutely stunning.

What did you listen to?

Slayer

 :rollin

Ok, this exchange needs to be acknowledged.


Alright.  I need to check these guys out too.  Any sugesstions for albums?

I second/third/fourth getting both WHBWH and WS, but I would also add Judgement which is quite good itself.  In fact, you can get Judgement, A Fine Day to Exit, and A Natural Disaster for cheap with the Anathema Original Album Classics set.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on September 01, 2012, 02:52:19 AM
After making the playlist for this coming week's show of my radio show, I have been on a total Anathema kick. Coming from their Doom/Death Metal roots, becoming what I feel to be the best example of Emotion in music with their sound of Alternative, Progressive Rock. I'm actually listening to Untouchable Pt.1 right now, like every time I hear this song, I'm getting very choked up. The lyrics, the music, the atmosphere. Everything about this band and what they've become, especially this year, has affected me for the best. Besides Alcest, who does it in a much different light, shows that music can be heavy when it needs to be and just grab you and never let go.

Anathema is the one band where you can get choked up listening to it, and couldn't be happier about it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 01, 2012, 04:16:17 AM
@JRumquist: I am in agreement. No other song has made me remember that memorial sadness feeling, ever. it's really fuckin great
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Crow on September 19, 2012, 08:08:50 PM
threadbump

I spun Weather Systems a lot for a while and then spun We're Here a lot for a while (both not being heard at all before this)
Weather Systems has some great songs and it's a great album but We're Here is leagues better, totally in love with the entire thing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 20, 2012, 03:11:20 AM
Yeah that's pretty much how I see it too. WS is like a slightly worse WHBWH, but it's still good enough that it wont bother me. I really hope their next album will be a bit different though. I can't see Anathema topping what they have done with WHBWH and WS within that particular style, so I think it's better if they try some new things.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on September 20, 2012, 03:39:37 AM
I feel the total opposite. I feel Weather Systems blows We're Here Because We're Hear out of the water. And to be honest I really didn't get into WHBWH until Weather Systems came out and I gave it another chance. Now I do see it as a great album, but Weather Systems is absolute stellar perfection.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 20, 2012, 04:34:04 AM
I feel the total opposite. I feel Weather Systems blows We're Here Because We're Hear out of the water. And to be honest I really didn't get into WHBWH until Weather Systems came out and I gave it another chance. Now I do see it as a great album, but Weather Systems is absolute stellar perfection.

I totally agree. Before WS, I didn't even really like Anathema that much despite having some of their other albums. WS made me love the band and I love WS from beginning to end. on The other hand with WHBWH, I love the first half but then usually tune out on the back half.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 20, 2012, 04:50:25 AM
But the second half is the best half! :P

The Untouchable-songs are the only ones that I think are on WHBWH-level. The rest is slightly below, and I mean slightly, because they're still great songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 20, 2012, 05:51:59 AM
I have to agree with those who prefer WHBWH - Weather Systems isn't bad at all and it has some of the best Anathema songs ever, like Untouchable parts 1 and 2, Lightning Song and Internal Landscapes, but it lacks the dynamics of WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 20, 2012, 06:40:44 AM
I like Weather Systems better. I think the second half kinda decays and in that aspect WHBWH is better because it is more consistent all along, but the highs in Weather Systems are better IMO
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 20, 2012, 01:48:43 PM
I've listened to both approximately 40 times each and I'm still not sure which one is better. Right now I like them about equally but I think I'm going to end up preferring WS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on September 22, 2012, 05:02:53 AM
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2012, 05:41:41 AM
Yeah I know, seems really cool. The place they're recording at looks awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on September 22, 2012, 06:17:14 AM
Jimmy, go make an Anathema cover band. Call it Zanterathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2012, 06:35:27 AM
Uhm.. wat. Also, stop slacking here and send me a song for the roulette god damn it!  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on September 22, 2012, 06:59:38 AM
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.

Also, with an orchestra!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 22, 2012, 09:26:37 AM
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.

Also, with an orchestra!
(https://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/280/884/685.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 22, 2012, 09:32:36 AM
Don't know if you guys know but they are recording a BluRay/DVD tonight.
YES! EPIC!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 22, 2012, 11:04:09 AM
Yep. And I'm missing it, it's 15 minutes away from me. If you look up a few pages back you're gonna see me posting some pics of the venue.
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=2898.805

Tarja at the same venue + the orchestra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FG_AQEEE2U

And Jon Lord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgNJBqHHII
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 22, 2012, 04:56:53 PM
Here's a video of the rehearsal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfGFUB7lre4

And a 2 minute clip of the show (bad quality/sitting position) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZgtbNJJ7Ak&feature=plcp


Dreaming Light - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQy-QKNQH0Q
A Natural Disaster - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt0urNfa9yI


Setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2012/roman-amphitheatre-plovdiv-bulgaria-6bddf6f6.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 23, 2012, 08:46:49 PM
Wow, I'm buying this DVD.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 24, 2012, 02:28:38 AM
Seems cool.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: wasteland on September 24, 2012, 02:34:12 AM
I might be buying this. I read that the release date is set for 2013. Does anyone have more accurate insights on this?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on September 24, 2012, 02:40:45 AM
If there is a Blu Ray I'll be all over it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on September 24, 2012, 07:08:31 AM
If there is a Blu Ray I'll be all over it.
There will be a Blu-ray also.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on September 24, 2012, 07:11:18 AM
This was the crowd pic of our amazing night in Bulgaria, my first official live recording. Amazing orchestra, amazing scenery, fireworks, what a night. Wish all my closest and loved ones where here to witness. Luckily, there's a Dvd/ Blu-Ray edition coming out soon. Thanks for all your support and thanks to Anathema for putting up with my shit. Peace!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152146455400164&set=p.10152146455400164&type=1&relevant_count=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152146455400164&set=p.10152146455400164&type=1&relevant_count=1)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 24, 2012, 07:13:34 AM
Also to point out, the venue is probably 80-90% full, maybe a bit unfortunate that the concert coincided with the  104th anniversary of the Bulgarian Declaration of Independence.  That's what the fireworks were for :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on September 24, 2012, 03:25:47 PM
I might be buying this. I read that the release date is set for 2013. Does anyone have more accurate insights on this?

As I expected, the release date is set for "Early" 2013.

For those who want to see the setlist for that night.

With Plovdiv Philharmonic Orchestra:
Untouchable 1
Untouchable 2
Thin Air
Dreaming Light
Lightning Song
Storm Before the Calm
Everything
A Simple Mistake
The Beginning and the End
Universal
Closer
A Natural Disaster
Deep
One Last Goodbye
Flying
Fragile Dreams

Without Plovdiv Philharmonic Orchestra:

Panic
Emotional Winter
Internal Landscapes
Fragile Dreams (Hindsight Version)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 24, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
What's the deal with Fragile Dreams 2 times? I get it that they are two different versions (both are great), but to me that is a slot they could have played something else. I kinda have the same issue with Blackfield's Live in New York (where they play Once twice) because the album itself is flawless, but instead of repeating a song they could have played something else IMO.

Still, setlist looks great. I'm so glad they played Emotional Winter (a top3 Anathema song for me), and Universal and Thin Air are probably the other 2 songs in my top3 Anathema, so really awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 24, 2012, 04:26:45 PM
My god, that setlist is just....  :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 24, 2012, 04:32:39 PM
Fragile Dreams from Hindsight?  :o EPIC!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 24, 2012, 04:58:33 PM
I really want to hear how Internal Landscapes sounds.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Fuzzboy on September 24, 2012, 11:58:57 PM
I'm listening to the new album and loving it so much. It's been more than a year since I've been so excited about driving for the sole purpose of listening to music. I might give it a spin tomorrow and go for a drive through the Everglades. Actually, for a while, I thought I was losing my interest in music in general until this one popped up.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 25, 2012, 02:55:41 AM
The setlist looks good - songs from the latest 2 albums, Deep and Emotional Winter are finally getting a DVD release! :tup I'm a bit disappointed at the lack of Falling Deeper stuff, considering that they had an orchestra with them and could've played some of those versions, or at least Kingdom, which they played at the Union Chapel last year. Some Alternative 4 songs (other than Fragile Dreams) would've been nice as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 09, 2012, 08:58:57 PM
Just listened to Weather Systems for the first time. Damn, it's beautiful. It's the only thing from Anathema I've heard so far. I hear great things about WHBWH  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 10, 2012, 02:51:06 AM
Just listened to Weather Systems for the first time. Damn, it's beautiful. It's the only thing from Anathema I've heard so far. I hear great things about WHBWH  :tup

They're both good, but the more you dwell into their back catalogue, it gets more darker. A good start is Alternate 4, a nice balance of the old and whats to be.

Anathema is what I consider a true progressive band. They went from doom to Folk... Can't get more prog than them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on October 10, 2012, 10:44:06 AM
err, folk?  :lol i'd call them alternative rock looooong before i'd ever attach "folk" to their current sound.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 10, 2012, 11:21:02 AM
I don't really think there's anything Folk about their sound but I dunno. To be honest I don't think the biggest change they've done is musically (if you compare Alternative 4 or Judgement with WS/WHBWH) but more the attitude/atmosphere, I'd say the old albums are something between Progressive and Alternative Rock, and the same goes for the new albums, but they are still very different, mostly because now it's all positive and "life is good", meanwhile earlier everything was negative and "life is sad". :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: wasteland on October 10, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
I've recently listened to Hindsight for the first time. Is it a sort of compilation of rearranged songs, much like 1X:5 by Pain Of Salvation? (I can't remember the exact day)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on October 10, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
I've recently listened to Hindsight for the first time. Is it a sort of compilation of rearranged songs, much like 1X:5 by Pain Of Salvation? (I can't remember the exact day)
I don't know that PoS album, but Hindsight is indeed (for the most part) a compilation of rearranged songs, the main difference being that there are cnlose to no electric guitars and some strings are added instead. However, they did some changes to the songs (for example that eargasmic tremolo guitar part in Flying) and Unchained (the last song) is completely new.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on October 10, 2012, 12:38:42 PM
err, folk?  :lol i'd call them alternative rock looooong before i'd ever attach "folk" to their current sound.
Overall, yeah definitely. There was a strong folk vibe on Falling Deeper though, more so than rock in my opinion.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 11, 2012, 01:58:23 AM
I think Falling Deeper sounds more cinematic/orchestral than folky - the early acoustic songs like Everwake, Alone and the one with French lyrics maybe sound a bit like folk due to the acoustic setting, but apart from those, Anathema have never sounded like folk IMO. "Atmospheric rock" is a good description of the post-doom metal stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Cyclopssss on October 11, 2012, 02:22:55 AM
Well anything involving a flute and/or a fiddle is almost instantly construed as being 'Folk', nowadays. For lack of better coinage, I guess...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on October 11, 2012, 07:33:18 PM
Universal  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 11, 2012, 11:50:45 PM
Universal  :heart

Best Anathema song!  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on October 25, 2012, 09:08:46 AM
THIS BEAUTIFUL FEELING SOARS OVER THE SKIES
MOVING THROUGH MY BODYYY OUT MY MINDDDD
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on October 25, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Does any Anathema fan NOT have WS as their AOTY?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on October 25, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
Me.
I personally have Pig Destroyer's Book Burner as my AOTY right now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 25, 2012, 02:56:40 PM
I don't. It's probably in my top25 though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on October 25, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
second only to BTBAM atm
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on October 25, 2012, 06:56:54 PM
AotY for me still.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on October 25, 2012, 07:25:57 PM
Its still my album of the year and I doubt anything will take over that spot.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 25, 2012, 07:26:30 PM
AotY for me still.

Me too. Great albums this year but nothing beats this
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 26, 2012, 12:44:32 AM
I checked my list and it's actually number 18 for me right now.
For those interested in what I have ranked higher, here's how it looks right now:

Between the Buried and Me - Parallax II: Future Sequence
Swans - The Seer
Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind
Ancestors - In Dreams and Time
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - 'Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend!
North Atlantic Oscillation - Fog Electric
Periphery - Periphery II: This Time It's Personal
Kimbra - Vows (US Version)
Submotion Orchestra - Fragments
Gazpacho - March of Ghosts
The Smashing Pumpkins - Oceania
Tim Hecker & Daniel Lopatin - Instrumental Tourist
The Tallest Man on Earth - There's No Leaving Now
Gregory and the Hawk - Come, Now
Flying Lotus - Until the Quiet Comes
Ulver - Childhood's End
Alcest - Les Voyages De L'Âme
Anathema - Weather Systems
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jirpo on October 26, 2012, 02:39:02 AM
Weather Systems is already one of my favourite albums, but I probably rank it behind Valtari, 'Allelujah, and Portal of I so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 26, 2012, 04:54:55 AM
Does any Anathema fan NOT have WS as their AOTY?
Yes. I just recently listened to WS again and while a very good album overall, it doesn't make my top 5 this year. Some of the songs are 10/10, but Sunlight still feels like a filler, TSBTC is like 2 songs glued together and many songs rely just on a few themes, which gives the album a kind of samey and repetitive feeling at times. What WS is missing is something more hard-edged like Summernight Horizon and the second half of A Simple Mistake on WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on October 26, 2012, 06:16:19 AM
Does any Anathema fan NOT have WS as their AOTY?
Yes. I just recently listened to WS again and while a very good album overall, it doesn't make my top 5 this year. Some of the songs are 10/10, but Sunlight still feels like a filler, TSBTC is like 2 songs glued together and many songs rely just on a few themes, which gives the album a kind of samey and repetitive feeling at times. What WS is missing is something more hard-edged like Summernight Horizon and the second half of A Simple Mistake on WHBWH.

I see where you're coming from. Personally I'm not a big fan of The Lost Child, but the rest of the album is absolutely stellar IMO. I've actually placed it above WHBWH...didn't think I was going to do that at first.

New Alcest, Les Discrets, Ne Obliviscaris, Dream Theater, A Forest of Stars, Steven Wilson are up there also.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 26, 2012, 06:20:57 AM
I think Weather Systems is great, but a lesser version of WHBWH.
The two Untouchables are amazing (and the best songs on the album), after that it goes down a little bit.
Sunlight is a decent song but doesn't do much for me, The Storm Before the Calm doesn't feel like one song, it feels like two songs they just put together, god knows why. I like the first part, and I like the second part, but I don't feel like they belong together.
Internal Landscapes starts off pretty good and has potential, but I'm slightly disappointed that it doesn't lead to something, it just feels like the song goes on, and eventually ends. I was kinda hoping for something more.

But the Untouchable songs alone makes it a top25 album this year so far for me. Had the rest been of the same quality the album would be higher, take those two songs away and it would be much lower.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on October 26, 2012, 07:52:22 AM
Just today I saw a billboard in my town announcing an Anathema concert just 10 km from my home.... The date is... Two days ago  :sadpanda:

I suck.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 01, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
YES.

Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.

I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 01, 2012, 06:20:24 PM
That's awesome. I really want them to release that DVD with the orchestra they played with soon. I cannot wait to hear Lightning Song with an orchestra fdjsfdksl. Best song 2012.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pockets17red on November 01, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
YES.

Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.

I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)

So after the concert at the Tilburg, Anathema will have filmed two concerts for a Blu-ray/DVD release next year? I wonder if they will film another concert!  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on November 01, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Weather Systems in its entirety? Well, All I can say: YEAH THE HELL!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on November 01, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
YES.

Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.

I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)

I'll be with you

















kicking your ass out of pure envy  >:(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on November 02, 2012, 02:27:49 AM
YES.

Anathema is going to play Weather Systems IN FULL next Sunday at the famous 013 in Tilburg.
The performance will be FILMED for a later BLU-RAY release. YES.
The awesome Long Distance Calling will be the support act.

I'LL BE THERE. Who's with me? :)
I am. This is epic!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 02, 2012, 07:23:44 AM
2 DVD gigs? I didn't see this coming!

I hope the rest of the setlist will also include some songs that weren't played in Bulgaria. Looking at the setlists from this Fall, they've played Wings of God pretty frequently and songs like Angelica, Empty and Angels Walk Among Us occasionally, so I hope those and some possible surprises will be in the set for Tilburg.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 02, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 02, 2012, 11:34:51 PM
I can't decide whether this or BTBAM's new album is my favorite of the year. I'm leaning towards this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 03, 2012, 02:44:56 AM
Neither of them is, but BTBAM is much better.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 03, 2012, 07:22:04 AM
I wish I had the ability to be able to determine what someone else's favourite album is or should be.

















 :-*
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 03, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.

See you there I guess?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 03, 2012, 08:04:49 AM
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.

See you there I guess?
I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end  :-X).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 03, 2012, 09:57:25 AM
Neither of them is, but BTBAM is much better.  ;)

lol you probably think Swans is the best album of the year despite it being a heaping pile of MEH :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 03, 2012, 10:00:39 AM
Swans is in my top 5, but it's not number 1. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 03, 2012, 10:02:55 AM
Swans is in my top 5, but it's not number 1. :P


:\ :P

I thought BTBAM was your number 1 a few days ago, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 03, 2012, 11:08:26 AM
It was for a while, right now I feel comfortable about it being in my top 5 though. (out of the ~75 albums I've heard this year)
The top5 would be: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind, Swans - The Seer, Ancestors - In Dreams and Time, BTBAM - Future Sequence and the new GYBE.

Anathema would be around top25/top30.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 03, 2012, 08:20:34 PM
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.

See you there I guess?
I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end  :-X).

I need a train at the end as well, so there's no time for me then either. What do you propose? Because I suppose I could say hi beforehand or there :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 03, 2012, 11:30:44 PM
It was for a while, right now I feel comfortable about it being in my top 5 though. (out of the ~75 albums I've heard this year)
The top5 would be: Converge - All We Love We Leave Behind, Swans - The Seer, Ancestors - In Dreams and Time, BTBAM - Future Sequence and the new GYBE.

Anathema would be around top25/top30.

Those albums above Parallax? WELP.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 04, 2012, 02:19:48 AM
Oh, I don't know if that's the order to be honest. Right now I'm feeling Converge as nr 1, but the others are not in any particular order. BTBAM might be 2 or it might be 5, it depends on at what time I try to rank them. BTBAM can still retake the throne for number 1 before the year ends. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 04, 2012, 05:57:20 AM
I was doubting but decided to get a ticket for Tilburg as well.

See you there I guess?
I'd be up for saying hi. But at the venue or beforehand since I need to catch a train (hope I can stay until the end  :-X).

I need a train at the end as well, so there's no time for me then either. What do you propose? Because I suppose I could say hi beforehand or there :)
pm'd you!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on November 04, 2012, 07:56:26 AM
Any recommendations for an Anathema virgin? Looks like they have a pretty extensive discography and I have no idea where to begin.

I'm not necessarily looking for their "best", because I want to have something good to build up too, but I'm interested in getting into these guys.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 04, 2012, 08:02:32 AM
It's difficult, because their older albums are doom metal albums, whereas their newer ones are more neo-proggish. I reccomend you start with We're Here Because We're Here, because that's my personal favourite and follow it up with the ones that came before, Judgement and Alternative 4 most notably. The take the newest (Weather Systems). If you ever get interested in checking out their history, you could try out their doom metal albums, the first two they did, or Eternity, which marked their first shift towards a newer sound, but they don't play anything from them anymore.

Discography:

    Serenades (1993)
    The Silent Enigma (1995)
    Eternity (1996)
    Alternative 4 (1998)
    Judgement (1999)
    A Fine Day to Exit (2001)
    A Natural Disaster (2003)
    We're Here Because We're Here (2010)
    Weather Systems (2012)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on November 04, 2012, 08:06:10 AM
We're Here Because We're Here was my first Anathema album (and is probably my favourite too), I'd go with that  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: wasteland on November 04, 2012, 08:07:22 AM
@Elite: What makes you say that We're Here is better than Weather Systems? I'm not criticizing your opinion, I just want to know the reasons, I'm interested  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 04, 2012, 08:28:01 AM
I also think WHBWH is better than WS. Stronger songs, more variety, less of the "every song has the same structure" and when that album came out the sound felt fresh, meanwhile WS is another album in the same style.

With that said I still think WS is a great album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 04, 2012, 08:30:10 AM
Want Zant said, basically. I guess it's all a matter of preference, but I heard WHBWH when it was just released and it blew me away. I also think the inidividual songs on the former are better than on Weather Systems, though the latter also contains some very strong tracks. That's not to say WS is bad, I'm going to enjoy the hell out of them playing it in full tonight, but WHBWH is just better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: wasteland on November 04, 2012, 09:24:29 AM
WHBWH was my first album as well. I remember being positively impressed by it, but I just let them go for almost a year. Then a couple of months ago I got Weather Systems and tried to like it. It's really good, but non phenomenal, except for the Untouchables, which are really phnomenal :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on November 04, 2012, 11:04:41 AM
For me, Weather Systems was a hit on first listen, but it hasn't had that much staying power. I mean, I still listen to it occasionally and really like it, but it doesn't hit me as hard as it used to. On the other hand, I had no idea what to make off WHBWH at first but it just continues to grow on me. Right know WHBWH would probably make my Top 10 albums of all time while Weather Systems is "just" a great album. Also, WHBWH was basically my soundtrack for a trip to La Réunion, which is just a stunningly beautiful island, and i kinda associate the album with that trip. So that's another point in WHBWH's favor.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: NecessaryPain on November 04, 2012, 01:07:11 PM
I also think WHBWH is better than WS. Stronger songs, more variety, less of the "every song has the same structure" and when that album came out the sound felt fresh, meanwhile WS is another album in the same style.

With that said I still think WS is a great album.

It's a tough one. I certainly think it's a lot closer than you're suggesting but I guess that comes down to preference.

WHBWH isn't quite as consistant as WS, IMO. I think the flow of WS is slightly superior, but for individual tracks - WHBWH probably takes it.

When I thought Dreaming Light was the epitome of a stunningly beautiful 5 minute track, Lightning Song came along and edged it.

Untouchable 1 and 2 surpass anything Anathema has done before, IMO. And the crazy thing is, I didn't even like the first song when it came out!

Either way, they're both brilliant albums.  :metal

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 04, 2012, 01:54:08 PM
I like Weather Systems just a smidge more than WHBWH, but that's mainly because of Lightning Song and The Storm Before the Calm, which have cemented themselves as my favorite songs of the year.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on November 04, 2012, 02:18:06 PM
Those are two great songs
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 04, 2012, 03:00:22 PM
I like both. The only problem for me with The Storm Before the Calm is that it feels completely disjointed. I like both the first half and the second half of the song, but there's no connection between them IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 05, 2012, 04:38:11 AM
Another vote to WHBWH - feels more consistent and diverse. WS has a few songs that surpass anything on We're Here... but as a whole the latter works much better.
The only problem for me with The Storm Before the Calm is that it feels completely disjointed. I like both the first half and the second half of the song, but there's no connection between them IMO.
Agreed, it suffers from The Ministry of Lost Souls syndrome.

Anyway, here's the setlist for last night's DVD gig: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2012/poppodium-013-tilburg-netherlands-63daba0b.html

 :tup for Empty and Wings of God (well, they're not playing the full version but it's nice anyway) - I was hoping for those!
What I find weird is that they skipped Sunlight and The Lost Child, although they had announced that WS would be played in full, (not that I mind, those 2 songs are in the weaker half of the album IMO) and the inclusion of Orion - they could've played one of their own metal songs, like Sleepless or A Dying Wish.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on November 05, 2012, 04:45:33 AM
It was an epic show -  too bad I had to miss everything after Internal Landscapes due to having to catch my train  >:(
Orion is cool, but I agree that Sleepless or A Dying Wish (epic song!) would've been better. Really sad that I had to miss One Last Goodbye, love that song..
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 05, 2012, 08:09:30 AM
I'm really glad I decided to go, it was absolutely great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2012, 09:22:49 AM
It was awesome, yes.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on November 05, 2012, 11:00:50 AM
Pleased to hear everyone enjoyed it. I didn't think it was all that great, to be honest. Don't get me wrong, I love the band's style and I think they're one of the most sympathetic bands around. I have some fond memories of being blown away (absolutely blown the f**k away - my brother as well, and he saw them for the first time that night) by A Simple Mistake and Universal live during a gig in Enschede (Atak), in front of merely 200 people. The Paradiso gig was fine as well, albeit cracks were starting to show here and there. This gig had more of them, too many. I don't want to ruin those great memories, so I'm going to give Anathema a rest for a while.

They're becoming a bigger band now, playing larger shows, but I can feel an awkwardness to it. I can't describe it. I'm not gonna say anything more about it because this band deserves all the support they can get and I don't want to badmouth them in any way.

Okay..err....just this: LOSE THE 'ORION' COVER. WTF? Weirdest placement of a track ever in a live show.




Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on November 05, 2012, 11:14:05 AM
Orion was very misplaced indeed and I too agree on them being better in a smaller environment as well. I was especially bummed by failing equipment during A Simple Mistake (my favourite Anathema song) and I also wasn't too keen on Danny's constant scream for attention. Just let me enjoy the music without me having to shout or clap my hands every two minutes.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 05, 2012, 11:25:53 AM
Danny was indeed quite the attention whore. Although I was thinking that might have been because they were filming it, since I don't recall it being this bad the last time I saw them.

It didn't disturb me that much though, had a great evening.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on November 05, 2012, 01:26:09 PM
I was especially bummed by failing equipment during A Simple Mistake (my favourite Anathema song)

Indeed, first time Danny's guitar signal failed I thought: Just stop the song, fix it, and continue the show. Sometimes such things can be OK like in Opeth's RAH DVD, but this was just painful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on November 05, 2012, 01:39:55 PM
O wow, the venue size difference is pretty big.

Berlin (two days ago I think)

(https://puu.sh/1mPfJ)



Tilburg

(https://puu.sh/1mPgM)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: John94 on November 07, 2012, 08:20:40 AM
Daniel Cardoso full time member now! Congrats!

https://www.progrockmag.com/news/daniel-cardoso-joins-anathema-permanently/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on November 07, 2012, 09:01:06 AM
Well, I ended up just picking up Weather Systems because it was the cheapest on Amazon. Liking what I hear so far, the first couple tracks hit it off well enough to peak my interest. I'll definitely be picking up more albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 07, 2012, 09:44:10 AM
Daniel Cardoso full time member now! Congrats!

https://www.progrockmag.com/news/daniel-cardoso-joins-anathema-permanently/
Congrats indeed! I thought they would continue without a full-time keyboardist, but it'll be interesting to see how the next album turns out - his involvement will probably shake things up a bit.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on November 07, 2012, 02:32:24 PM
Daniel Cardoso full time member now! Congrats!

https://www.progrockmag.com/news/daniel-cardoso-joins-anathema-permanently/
Great news! I was wondering when/if he would become an official member.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pelata on December 14, 2012, 09:38:42 PM
I am just now, tonight, hearing Weather Systems for the first time....all I can say is "Oh my god"...this album is brilliant! This will not leave my player for the foreseeable future.

 :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on December 14, 2012, 10:45:56 PM
I am just now, tonight, hearing Weather Systems for the first time....all I can say is "Oh my god"...this album is brilliant! This will not leave my player for the foreseeable future.

 :hefdaddy

Good for you, welcome to the club, I also just discovered this gem. I was so impressed by Untouchable that I'm purchasing their entire catalog now, that single opener won me over.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 15, 2012, 01:03:57 AM
I was so impressed by Untouchable that I'm purchasing their entire catalog now, that single opener won me over.
You're aware that their early works are quite a lot different from the new album, right? I think the doom metal albums are pretty good, but if you've bought them based on Untouchable, the style of those releases might come as a shock! :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on December 15, 2012, 01:45:48 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on December 15, 2012, 02:07:05 AM
It's top 25 or so.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on December 15, 2012, 04:12:51 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on December 15, 2012, 04:37:58 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on December 15, 2012, 09:24:59 AM
I was so impressed by Untouchable that I'm purchasing their entire catalog now, that single opener won me over.
You're aware that their early works are quite a lot different from the new album, right? I think the doom metal albums are pretty good, but if you've bought them based on Untouchable, the style of those releases might come as a shock! :lol

Haha, ya, I am aware. I haven't picked those album's up yet, but I still plan too. I have a fairly diverse musical taste and I've yet to get into Doom metal so this seems like a good shot to try. I have roughly half their album's now, hopefully the rest in another month or so.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on December 15, 2012, 10:33:06 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on December 15, 2012, 11:19:50 AM
Well,  I just bought it on Amazon.  First disk by them for me.  Can't wait to hear it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on December 15, 2012, 09:55:53 PM
Well,  I just bought it on Amazon.  First disk by them for me.  Can't wait to hear it.

Inform us later if you like or not but I think it's just impossible not to fall in love with it.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on December 17, 2012, 05:23:30 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I probably wouldn't go quite that far but it's certainly well up there!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 17, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
I have the most amazing story. I was yesterday in a record store, and I came across Weather Systems and I *loved* the cover and say a Steven Wilson sticker so I said...what the heck, and I  bought it. I had never heard of Anathema before in my life, and this is one of the best things that could've happened to me in music right now. Absolutely magical.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on December 18, 2012, 02:57:41 AM
 :laugh:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Pelata on December 18, 2012, 07:42:49 AM
I have been aware of Anathema since Eternity. I have even heard them in passing at different times. For whatever reason, I have never paid them a whole hell of a lot of attention, despite thinking they were pretty good. It was all the adulation Weather Systems was getting that really piqued my interest so I took a chance. I am LOVING this album!!! I lucked out and came across Hindsight yesterday for $4 and grabbed it too...

Obsession in full effect...  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on December 18, 2012, 07:52:49 AM
I have the most amazing story. I was yesterday in a record store, and I came across Weather Systems and I *loved* the cover and say a Steven Wilson sticker so I said...what the heck, and I  bought it. I had never heard of Anathema before in my life, and this is one of the best things that could've happened to me in music right now. Absolutely magical.

 :metal :metal :metal
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Post by: Sketchy on December 26, 2012, 07:30:03 AM
Just discovered this band. They are amazing. Happy face.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on December 26, 2012, 10:45:56 AM
The Gathering of The Clouds and Lightning Song are amazing.
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Post by: Heretic on December 26, 2012, 10:50:59 AM
The way Gathering slowly builds up and then segues right into Lightning Song is like one of my favorite things ever. There's an obvious contrast yet relationship between the songs too, and that helps pair them together as well. :heart
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Post by: OsMosis2259 on December 26, 2012, 12:35:43 PM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I couldn't agree more.
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Post by: Sketchy on January 05, 2013, 11:40:26 AM
Weather Systems arrived today. I'm really enjoying it, especially The Storm Before The Calm. That electronic bit is amazing.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on January 05, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
I'm just saying this Weather Systems is the best of album of 2012, without a doubt.

I couldn't agree more.
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Post by: Zantera on January 05, 2013, 11:59:19 AM
I think the two biggest problems with Weather Sytems for me is that I had skyhigh expectations (which is partly my own fault) and the fact that it was preceded by WHBWH.
It's actually a pretty fantastic album, but I think WHBWH is slightly better. It was also more "fresh" when it came out, but Anathema have been doing this sound for a bit now (I'll include Falling Deeper), so WS wasn't as fresh or new. But still very good.

I kinda hope for a change on the next album though. Something different.
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Post by: Sketchy on January 05, 2013, 12:00:40 PM
My copy of We're Here is due to turn up next week.
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Post by: Heretic on January 05, 2013, 03:24:07 PM
I think the two biggest problems with Weather Sytems for me is that I had skyhigh expectations (which is partly my own fault) and the fact that it was preceded by WHBWH.
It's actually a pretty fantastic album, but I think WHBWH is slightly better. It was also more "fresh" when it came out, but Anathema have been doing this sound for a bit now (I'll include Falling Deeper), so WS wasn't as fresh or new. But still very good.

I kinda hope for a change on the next album though. Something different.

A few more instances of "darkness", i.e. what's seen on The Storm Before the Calm's second half, and perhaps more variation in the types of songs would be an interesting change. I want them to keep their atmospheric style, and I want them to continue doing uplifting and powerful songs, but they can do that with different styles, I'd say. I heard they might delve into more electronics on the next album, which would be cool for a few songs. I definitely want the orchestration to stay, too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 05, 2013, 04:37:25 PM
Yeah I'm not really sure what I would want them to change, but just have the album be something new. My favorite Anathema album changes almost everyday between Judgement and We're Here Because We're Here (so I'd say they're about equal), and I guess something darker like Judgement but with the harmony-vocals and orchestrations from WHBWH would be cool.

But with that said, I doubt the band will ever write something dark again, it's all light and positive now.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 06, 2013, 12:30:37 AM
I remember Vincent saying that they feel they've perfected their current sound already and will try something new on the next album, probably going more electronic.
But with that said, I doubt the band will ever write something dark again, it's all light and positive now.  :biggrin:
That's quite likely, which is quite sad IMO, as I love Alternative 4 and Judgement the most, and those albums have some of their gloomiest songs.
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Post by: ariich on January 06, 2013, 06:48:55 AM
I think the two biggest problems with Weather Sytems for me is that I had skyhigh expectations (which is partly my own fault) and the fact that it was preceded by WHBWH.
It's actually a pretty fantastic album, but I think WHBWH is slightly better. It was also more "fresh" when it came out, but Anathema have been doing this sound for a bit now (I'll include Falling Deeper), so WS wasn't as fresh or new. But still very good.

I kinda hope for a change on the next album though. Something different.
I don't really agree with this at all, to be honest. Falling Deeper was a very different beast, and Weather Systems has a very strong individual identity as well (much more use of acoustic guitars than WHBWH).

For me WS is the absolute pinnacle of their music, it's just such a perfect album. It'll be interesting to see where they go next.
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Post by: Zantera on January 06, 2013, 07:23:04 AM
Well yeah, they are all different, but they are still very similar in some ways. More positive, uplifting, bright look on life, a new way of using harmony vocals that they didn't really use so much in the earlier days. I look at them like a trilogy almost, while they all have some traits that make each album unique, there's still that emotional core/sound which makes it sound Anathema.

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Post by: Heretic on January 06, 2013, 08:25:13 AM
(I must mention that I absolutely love the harmony vocals. They're utterly brilliant.)
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Post by: Zantera on January 06, 2013, 08:42:59 AM
(I must mention that I absolutely love the harmony vocals. They're utterly brilliant.)

I agree. They've certainly raised the bar for the melodic side of Anathema, and while I still love the older albums, the harmony vocals is one of the biggest reasons why I think the band has exploded in popularity now, compared to before WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on February 17, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
Listening to Falling Deeper right now. Hadn't listened it in months. Love it even more than when I first heard it. How has it aged for you?
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on February 17, 2013, 06:20:33 PM
Listening to Falling Deeper right now. Hadn't listened it in months. Love it even more than when I first heard it. How has it aged for you?
I listened to it a couple of weeks ago and it has held up well, especially Crestfallen, Sleep In Sanity, and Sunset of Age. I still haven't heard any of the original versions of the songs though, so it'll be interesting to compare the 2 versions when I finally get around to getting the older albums.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 17, 2013, 07:25:47 PM
is anyone else aware of the album Danny Cavanagh did with Anneke van Giersbergen? has a bunch of Anathema songs and some covers. just found it randomly now!
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on February 17, 2013, 08:29:06 PM
is anyone else aware of the album Danny Cavanagh did with Anneke van Giersbergen? has a bunch of Anathema songs and some covers. just found it randomly now!
I have it and its pretty good. As much as I love Lee Douglas' voice, I love the version of A Natural Disaster with Anneke singing.
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Post by: Onno on February 18, 2013, 01:48:57 AM
Listening to Falling Deeper right now. Hadn't listened it in months. Love it even more than when I first heard it. How has it aged for you?
It has aged well, what a great album.
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Post by: ? on February 18, 2013, 01:54:41 AM
Some versions on FD are amazing (Crestfallen, Sunset of Age), but some turned out to be disappointments (We the Gods, Alone). But maybe that's just because I was already familiar with the early Anathema albums when it came out - it's a beautiful release nonetheless.

BTW, I just finished my OSI/Chroma Key top 30, so if SeRoX is unable to do his Anathema top 25 (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=12544.105) right now, then I could start mine.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 15, 2013, 08:21:08 PM
Got an email from Burning Shed today about this. I like spoken word passages in songs, like on Internal Landscapes, but I'm not sure how a whole album like that would be like. I'm definitely going to check this out next month as it does sound interesting!

Daniel Cavanagh & Joseph Geraci - The Passage
(https://www.burningshed.com/covers/large3570.jpg)
Graceful and atmospheric, The Passage is the unique result of a collaboration between Anathema's Daniel Cavanagh and writer Joseph Geraci (the voice on Internal Landscapes from Anathema's celebrated 2012 release, Weather Systems).

Mainly comprising ethereal textural and evocative piano backdrops to readings of Geraci's work (by Geraci, Cavanagh and Heather Leah Huddleston), the album also contains two new songs by Cavanagh. Within (Part 2) and Brief are also based on the words of Geraci and in their heartfelt and emotive delivery, the songs act as an ideal coda to the more tender moments on Anathema's recent albums.

Presented as a 17 part continuous suite of textures, poetry and songs, The Passage is a seductive and unpretentious marriage of spoken word and music that highlights the growing sophistication in Daniel Cavanagh's compositional capabilities.

Released on the Burning Shed label, the cd is presented in a dvd-sized digi-book and includes striking Carl Glover images in addition to the poetic texts.

Pre-order now for 15th April shipping.

1) Metamorphosis
2) Alone
3) The Orbit
4) Within
5) Yet To Be
6) Freedom
7) The Return
8) Within Part 2
9) The Islands
10) Water Fire
11) I Am You
12) Brief
13) Childhood Lost
14) Color
15) By Myself
16) The Beginning
17) The Passage
https://www.burningshed.com/store/label/product/138/4648/
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Post by: ? on March 16, 2013, 12:16:01 AM
Sounds interesting! :o Like you, I'm not sure how an album full of songs with spoken word samples will work, but I will check this out.
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Post by: Man-Erg on March 17, 2013, 12:24:09 PM
I got into Judgement and it's absolutely awesome. What do you think, where should I go next?
The vocals are oooh so lovely.
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Post by: Zantera on March 17, 2013, 01:32:34 PM
Quality-wise I would suggest We're Here Because We're Here and then Weather Systems, but both those albums are fairly different from the early stuff and Judgement. Perhaps not so much musically since they're still sort of Alternative/Progressive, though they use vocal melodies more effectively, but if need the music to be darker like on Judgement, I'd say any of Alternative 4 or A Natural Disaster would work.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 17, 2013, 02:08:20 PM
I'll never get tired of recommending Alternative 4! :biggrin: Since you love Judgement already, I bet you could easily like A4 too. It's more keyboard-driven and most of the songs are written by their bassist at the time, Duncan Patterson, but I still think it sounds closer to Judgement than their other records, since they took a more alt rockish approach on the next album already and the latest 2 records, while really good, are much less dark.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 29, 2013, 06:28:31 PM
Another new Danny Cavanagh project! We now have the Joseph Geraci collaboration coming out on April 15 and this one on May 20th. Plus there's the Anathema DVD which will probably be out this year too!
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Leafblade - Daniel Cavanagh and Daniel Cardosa from Anathema, plus Sean Jude and Kevin Murphy (both ex Valle Crucis) - create a powerful, yet subtle combination of lush symphonic atmospheres, anthemic refrains, potent guitar work and inventive percussion.

Valle Crucis were contemporaries of Anathema on the Liverpool music scene and Daniel was a long time admirer of the band. Leafblade - formed in 2003 - offered the musicians a chance to explore new sonic possibilities outside of their other band's remits.

Produced by Cavanagh, the band's Kscope label debut The Kiss Of Spirit And Flesh extends Leafblade's dynamic range and includes elaborate orchestration in addition to idiosyncratic lute-like nylon strings and unusual multi-range vocals.

Daniel feels that the album has found a natural home at Kscope, a label he has worked with extensively over the past few years and says, "The writing is absolutely top class and the Progressive nature of the music makes it very much part of Kscope's orbit."

He continues, "We feel the album is a special one thanks to the beautiful lyrics, superb arrangements and excellent musicianship. It should appeal to Anathema fans and Progressive fans alike."

Pre-order for 20th May release.

Tracks
1. Bethlehem
2. The Hollow Hills
3. Sunset Hypnos
4. Fuschia
5. Oak Machine
6. Thirteen
7. Beneath A Woodland Moon
8. Portrait
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/4664/
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Post by: ? on April 11, 2013, 03:49:10 AM
Now that my list is over, I can finally post this nice live clip of Lost Control that has a hilarious beginning :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9VPAvNc0Ng
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Post by: Onno on April 11, 2013, 03:56:18 AM
Now that my list is over, I can finally post this nice live clip of Lost Control that has a hilarious beginning :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9VPAvNc0Ng
"And now for something completely different"

EPIC!
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Post by: ? on April 11, 2013, 03:58:08 AM
I like how people start cheering right after Vincent has said "Life..." :) Don't like the off-key singing of the audience though :\
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Post by: Onno on April 11, 2013, 04:03:17 AM
I like how people start cheering right after Vincent has said "Life..." :) Don't like the off-key singing of the audience though :\
Precisely. I stopped watching after the song began because the audience singing was way too loud.
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Post by: ? on April 11, 2013, 04:38:44 AM
Luckily you can't hear them in the second verse... :P

BTW, am I the only one who thinks the piano melody in the beginning sounds a bit similar to the intro of A Nightmare to Remember now that the song is played in half step down tuning (which makes it sound even better IMO :heart)?
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Post by: abydos on April 11, 2013, 05:27:27 AM
They will have an acoustic show here which I will miss again. So far I've missed every Anneke and Anathema show here, with the exception of Antimatter and a Danny one-man show. FML
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Post by: ? on April 11, 2013, 05:34:26 AM
Anathema played in my hometown in 2010, but I wasn't a fan yet and would've been too young to go anyway. They played in Tampere and Helsinki last year and there have been some acoustic gigs (Vinnie and Danny in 2011, Danny and Anneke a couple of months ago), but I would've had to travel to see them, so I had to miss every show. However, next time Anathema come here (no matter which town they'll play in), I'll definitely go and see them!
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Post by: ? on April 12, 2013, 04:24:47 AM
For those who haven't liked Duncan's official FB page, he posted this pic a couple of months ago :D

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45353_10151325969473722_1259236165_n.jpg)
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Post by: Onno on April 12, 2013, 04:33:48 AM
 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin Fantastic!!!
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Post by: ? on April 12, 2013, 04:36:18 AM
I wonder what will happen if you press Alt + 4 :neverusethis:

Someone's comment on the photo: "there's no escape on this (out of view)" :D
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 10, 2013, 05:49:34 PM
(https://www.burningshed.com/covers/large3650.jpg)
In May 2012 Anathema released Weather Systems, the most successful album of the band's two decade plus career.

Scoring high in end of year polls around the world, the album cemented Anathema's reputation as one of the most interesting bands of recent times.

Following the release of the album, the band embarked on a lengthy world tour.

The European part of the tour opened with a special one-off gig at the ancient Roman theatre of Philippopolis where the band were joined by the Plovdiv Philharmonic Orchestra.

Untouchable captures the magic of this unique evening.

Available on double heavyweight vinyl packaged in a gatefold sleeve with printed inner sleeves.

Pre-order now for 24th June release date.

Please note, an audio visual cd/dvd version of the concert will be available in August, 2013.
Side 1:

1.   Untouchable Part 1
2.   Untouchable Part 2
3.   Thin Air

Side 2:

1.   Dreaming Light
2.   Everything
3.   The Storm Before The Calm

Side 3:

1.   A Simple Mistake
2.   The Beginning And The End
3.   Universal

Side 4:

1.   Closer
2.   A Natural Disaster
3.   Flying
https://www.burningshed.com/store/kscope/product/272/4729/



I'm glad that there's finally news on this but I think I'm going to wait for the CD & DVD, since I'd probably only listen to the vinyl once or twice.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
Speaking of Weather Systems...

Weather Systems > WHBWH. Both are great, but I just think WS is a much stronger album.
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Post by: Zantera on May 10, 2013, 06:49:01 PM
Nah. I would rank WS as nr3 or 4 in their discography. (WHBWH and Judgement being better)
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 10, 2013, 07:27:59 PM
Gonna wait for the dvd/cd.

I listened to Everything.....that song is the epitome of beautiful.

When I listen to WS and WHBWH, i'm transported onto an ocean just calmy floating. I get the same feeling about PoS Vocari Dei. These songs need to be heard by more people.
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Post by: Big Hath on May 10, 2013, 07:53:23 PM
I listened to Everything.....that song is the epitome of beautiful.

this this this

that song is magical
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 10, 2013, 08:02:23 PM
I love WHBWH and WS almost equally, but I think I'd put WS slightly ahead.
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Post by: ? on May 11, 2013, 06:06:00 AM
I hope the DVD will include the full show and not just the songs mentioned in the LP tracklist...

Also, I still prefer WHBWH to Weather Systems.
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Post by: PixelDream on May 11, 2013, 07:58:22 AM
That new live record has an excellent setlist.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 12, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
According to ShadowsDance.com's Facebook page, the 2LP version is titled Untouchable, while the CD/DVD release is untitled. I'm assuming this means that we'll get the full show on the DVD.
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Post by: abydos on May 13, 2013, 09:03:35 PM
Is this about the show that was recorded in Bulgaria?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: 73109 on May 13, 2013, 09:04:40 PM
Why won't these guys tour? I want to see them so badly before I become a poor college student with no means of transportation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on May 14, 2013, 03:16:50 AM
They will tour when a promoter books them gigs.
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Post by: 73109 on May 14, 2013, 05:10:53 AM
Is that like a sarcastic no shit comment or has that been a legitimate problem for them?
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Post by: gazinwales on May 15, 2013, 12:12:24 AM
Them as in the band or promoter?
I have no idea, but as already stated it's up to a promoter to book gigs and bring them to yours and my country, obviously they are in it to make money and the band aren't going to be doing it for free either.
I don't know how it works these days, it can't be purely on sales, as no one sells anymore.

I have no idea where you're from, but last 18 months in Australia has been incredible for bands touring.
It could be our high $, or really good promoters who know our small market for metal.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 29, 2013, 03:27:18 PM
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2013, 03:28:28 PM
Anathema AND Alcest? Sounds like a magical evening.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 29, 2013, 03:34:03 PM
I know, think I gotta change my shorts now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on May 29, 2013, 04:24:12 PM
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:

Cool!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 29, 2013, 05:27:09 PM
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:
I believe you, but do you have a link? I couldn't find any information anywhere. I hope this means that there will be a US tour!
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Post by: senecadawg2 on May 29, 2013, 06:47:55 PM
Anathema just announced a show with Alcest in October in a small venue in Oakland. :dangerwillrobinson:
I hope this means that there will be a US tour!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 29, 2013, 06:54:39 PM
The Oakland Metro Opera House announced the show on their Facebook page.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 29, 2013, 07:05:04 PM
The Oakland Metro Opera House announced the show on their Facebook page.
Thanks! I guess an official announcement will be coming soon then.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 29, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
Yeah, I didn't see anything anywhere else, but this was just a few hours ago.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 29, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
While I was on the Anathema FB page looking for tour dates, I came across this:
City of Goodbyes by The Eden House - Lee Douglas guests on lead vocals.
https://theedenhouse.bandcamp.com/track/city-of-goodbyes

It sounds really good. I haven't listened to the rest of the album, but I believe this is the only song she is on.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on May 29, 2013, 08:10:02 PM
If this turns out to be false, or if it doesn't come to Minnesota, I will cry for days.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 29, 2013, 08:12:59 PM
I'm hoping for a Boston date, which, if they do tour, will probably be a reality (whether or not the venue would be all ages is another question; I think most Boston venues tend to be 21+). I'll be in college in Massachusetts in the fall so it would be practically impossible for me to make it to NYC.

Am I imagining things or did they have a US tour scheduled a couple of years ago with Devin Townsend? I was new to Anathema and not yet a fan of Devin, so I wasn't planning on going. I seem to remember them dropping out though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on May 29, 2013, 08:29:11 PM
I'm hoping for a Boston date, which, if they do tour, will probably be a reality (whether or not the venue would be all ages is another question; I think most Boston venues tend to be 21+). I'll be in college in Massachusetts in the fall so it would be practically impossible for me to make it to NYC.

Am I imagining things or did they have a US tour scheduled a couple of years ago with Devin Townsend? I was new to Anathema and not yet a fan of Devin, so I wasn't planning on going. I seem to remember them dropping out though.

Close. It was suppose to be Cynic/3/Anathema back in 2010. Anathema had to drop out due to visa issues and Scale The Summit took their place.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on May 30, 2013, 06:04:40 PM
Tour is happening September/October. Anathema headlining!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 30, 2013, 06:40:34 PM
Tour is happening September/October. Anathema headlining!
Have you heard any rumored dates besides Oakland? Sorry, but I'm so fucking excited about this and I can hardly wait for the official announcement!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on May 30, 2013, 08:04:31 PM
Tour is happening September/October. Anathema headlining!
Have you heard any rumored dates besides Oakland? Sorry, but I'm so fucking excited about this and I can hardly wait for the official announcement!!!

I have to find it again, but there is a date in Canada in September, so it looks like a Mid September-Mid October run, or so I am guessing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 30, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
I know its not gonna happen, but i'll shit myself if Albuquerque gets a date. I have been surprised before.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 30, 2013, 10:27:18 PM
for those looking for a link for the Oakland, CA show
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152884594040195&id=209358445194
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 30, 2013, 10:37:37 PM
for those looking for a link for the Oakland, CA show
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=10152884594040195&id=209358445194

Also a link to my epic reaction to the announcement :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 21, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 21, 2013, 11:24:13 PM
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddy
I got all excited when I saw that this thread was bumped as I thought they finally released US tour dates. But anyway, Alternative 4 is a great album!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 22, 2013, 03:11:50 AM
Alternative 4 is awesome indeed. My favorite Anathema-album is still Judgement.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 24, 2013, 10:13:45 PM
My favorite remains Weather Systems, I don't even care. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 25, 2013, 02:57:51 PM
Anyone check out the live album?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchable_(Anathema_album)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 25, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
Anyone check out the live album?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Untouchable_(Anathema_album)
I'm waiting for the CD/DVD. I'd love to get the vinyl though but I'm not sure if it would be worth it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on June 25, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddy
Thank you so fucking much btw.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Rhayader on June 25, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Damn! I have already ordered the vinyl without knowing they played a longer setlist. Why didn't they put it into 3 vinyls?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 26, 2013, 12:16:27 AM
Today is the 15th anniversary of Alternative 4! I'm listening to the album right now and I can still safely say that it's my favorite Anathema release :hefdaddy
Thank you so fucking much btw.  :biggrin:
You're so fucking welcome :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 26, 2013, 01:14:36 PM
North American dates are up!!!!!!!!!
Form Alcest's Facebook:
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Joint North American headlining tour with Anathema

In September/October 2013 Alcest will take a break from the works on their upcoming fourth album to embark on a double-headlining USA and Canada tour with the masters of atmospheric rock, Anathema.

This is what Neige has to say about the tour: "We feel honored to tour with Anathema and Mamiffer. Since years Anathema is making this unique mix of prog and emotional rock. Mamiffer is the post-rock/experimental band of Faith Coloccia and Aaron Turner, talented Isis founding member and founder of Hydra Head Records. Sounds like a diverse and attractive billing! And this will also be the opportunity for us to play a few songs from our next album. See you in a few months!"

Anathema / Alcest
Special guest: Mamiffer

9/12 Philadelphia PA @ Underground Arts
9/13 Springfield VA @ Empire
9/14 New York NY @ Gramercy Theater
9/15 Boston MA @ Middle East
9/16 Montreal QC @ Foufounes Electriques
9/18 Toronto ON @ Opera House
9/19 Flint MI @ The Machine Shop
9/20 Cleveland OH @ Peabody's
9/21 Chicago IL @ Reggie's
9/22 Minneapolis MN @ Mill City Nights
9/24 Denver CO @ Summit City Music Hall
9/25 Salt Lake City UT @ In The Venue
9/26 Boise ID @ Knitting Factory
9/27 Seattle WA @ Studio Seven
9/28 Vancouver BC @ Rickshaw Theater
9/29 Portland OR @ Hawthorne Theater
10/1 Oakland CA @ Oakland Opera House
10/3 Los Angeles CA @ El Rey Theater
10/4 San Diego CA @ The Casbah
10/5 Tempe AZ @ The Marquee Theater
I looked on the Boston venue's page, and most shows are 18+. I hope this one is all ages, as the show is only a few days before my 18th birthday. If not, then I guess I'll go to NYC the day before. Either way, I NEED to see this show.
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Post by: adace on June 26, 2013, 01:24:15 PM
I'll hit up the LA show for sure.
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Post by: countoftuscany42 on June 26, 2013, 05:53:22 PM
Incredibly depressed that I can't see this tour  :-[
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Post by: Phoenix87x on June 26, 2013, 06:19:59 PM
Definitely going to try and catch the Philly show
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on June 27, 2013, 09:13:01 PM
Mill City Nights 9/22

Holy Fuck September:

9/17 The Dear Hunter
9/19 Typhoon
9/22 Anathema/Alcest
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Post by: senecadawg2 on June 28, 2013, 08:05:27 AM
Just trying to decide whether or not I should try to catch multiple shows. They probably won't mess around much with the setlist, right? I'll definitely, at least, check out the Springfield VA show. Super excited!!!
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on June 29, 2013, 08:16:02 AM
bought my ticket for the Minneapolis show yesterday at Into the Void Records and also found a copy of Alternative 4 on vinyl.
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Post by: The Letter M on June 29, 2013, 09:48:21 AM
So I was talking with a friend who I introduced this band to via Weather Systems, and she pronounced the band differently than I have been.

I was always under the impression was it pronounced Ana-THE-ma, with emphasis on the third syllable (like An-na-THEE-mah). She prounced it A-NATH-ema, with emphasis on the 2nd syllable (like Uh-NATH-eh-mah).

Which is right?

-Marc.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 29, 2013, 09:49:40 AM
Pretty sure it's the latter. I pronounced it the first way initially, too. :P
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 29, 2013, 10:18:40 AM
same, started saying it that way but realized years later that it's properly an-NATH-uh-muh.
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Post by: krands85 on June 29, 2013, 11:34:58 AM
same, started saying it that way but realized years later that it's properly an-NATH-uh-muh.
Ditto - I only realised the correct way to pronounce it when I saw them supporting Opeth last year and they introduced themselves to the audience  :blush
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Post by: carl320 on June 29, 2013, 12:12:43 PM
I might go to the Chicago show.  I've been listening to Weather Systems a bit recently and I'm growing fond of it.
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Post by: ? on July 27, 2013, 02:10:53 AM
https://www.burningshed.com/store/anathema/product/5/4952/

I'm not sure whether I'll buy this yet... I'd love to get the bonus content, but I don't have a Blu-ray player :-\ What happened to the Tilburg footage?
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Post by: Onno on July 27, 2013, 02:57:59 AM
https://www.burningshed.com/store/anathema/product/5/4952/

I'm not sure whether I'll buy this yet... I'd love to get the bonus content, but I don't have a Blu-ray player :-\ What happened to the Tilburg footage?
Same here. And I don't know about the Tilburg footage, I really hope they'll release it soon.
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Post by: Elite on July 27, 2013, 05:32:23 AM
https://www.burningshed.com/store/anathema/product/5/4952/

I'm not sure whether I'll buy this yet... I'd love to get the bonus content, but I don't have a Blu-ray player :-\ What happened to the Tilburg footage?
Same here. And I don't know about the Tilburg footage, I really hope they'll release it soon.

I doubt they will, after having announced this one. I would have bought it, since I was at the Tilburg show (and you were too :biggrin: ), but I'm not so sure about this one here. It's probably good, but a live recording from the show I was at would have been better for me personally.
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Post by: ? on July 27, 2013, 06:32:46 AM
I actually like the Tilburg setlist a bit more due to the presence of Empty, although the show in Bulgaria featured an orchestra. Either way, I truly wish the Union Chapel show was on the DVD; I'd love to have a professionally filmed version of Angels Walk Among Us, and the performance of Kingdom was awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zSG-8avy4
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Post by: Onno on July 27, 2013, 09:43:51 AM
Yeah, I hate that. Why not just make different versions with the exact same (bonus) content, one BluRay + CD and one DVD + CD?
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 27, 2013, 11:16:23 AM
I'm kind of confused about this. So, it has the show with the Plovdiv Philharmonic Orchestra on the DVD with the encore from this show on the Blu-Ray? And they played Fragile Dreams twice?? :huh:

I wonder if the retail edition of the DVD will contain the whole show. I'd love to have the whole concert but I don't have a Blu-Ray player.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 30, 2013, 11:05:21 AM
Trailer is up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGBg5rZb58s
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Post by: ? on July 30, 2013, 11:14:47 AM
And they played Fragile Dreams twice?? :huh:
They played both the Hindsight version and the original one.

The trailer looks great, but I'm still not sold on the idea of not having the extras on the DVD.
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Post by: OsMosis2259 on July 30, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
Just saw the tour dates... I'm thinking I should hit up the NYC show since I loved the last 2 albums.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 30, 2013, 12:01:42 PM
And they played Fragile Dreams twice?? :huh:
They played both the Hindsight version and the original one.

The trailer looks great, but I'm still not sold on the idea of not having the extras on the DVD.
Didn't know they played both versions of Fragile Dreams. Pretty cool idea.
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Post by: TexansDT on July 30, 2013, 10:18:20 PM
Not to derail discussion of the BR/DVD here, but I can't stop listening to Weather Systems since discovering it a few weeks ago.

Good gracious, this band is hitting me hard. Have not felt this kind of raw emotion with a new band in a long time.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 30, 2013, 10:27:05 PM
Not to derail discussion of the BR/DVD here, but I can't stop listening to Weather Systems since discovering it a few weeks ago.

Good gracious, this band is hitting me hard. Have not felt this kind of raw emotion with a new band in a long time.
It's been almost a year and a half since I first listened to Weather Systems and I'm still not sick of it. I just played it this afternoon and I enjoyed it just as much as I did the first time I heard it.
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Post by: LCArenas on July 30, 2013, 10:32:24 PM
ANATHEMA AND ALCEST


FUCKING
ANATHEMA
AND
ALCEST



WHY CAN'T THEY JUST COME TO SOUTH AMERICA
FOR SUCH A CONCERT I WOULD PAY ALL OF MY MONEY
JUST TAKE IT
JUST FUCKING TAKE IT
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Post by: HarlequinForest on July 30, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
I want to see both of those bands so badly... But they aren't coming even near Missouri.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 06, 2013, 03:15:03 PM
So um... just got back from a five hour road trip, and towards the end my friend popped in an ACTUAL CD, burned with a bunch of prog artists. Anyway, towards the end, a really rockin' song came on that reminded me of Depeche Mode with a vice grip around its balls and a fire under its ass. That was song was Empty. I think I just found my gateway song into this band. I had heard a song or two off Weather Systems that I liked, but this song rocked my earbody so hard. Currently downloading Alternative 4...
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Post by: JRundquist on August 07, 2013, 01:58:35 PM
Interviewing both bands at the show September 22nd. BOth are very happy that I reached out to them to promote this tour. That's always a damn good feeling!
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Post by: dongringo on August 07, 2013, 08:38:08 PM
Just got tickets for the Portland show. Beyond stoked!!!
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Post by: TioJorge on August 08, 2013, 11:02:58 AM
Inner Silence literally brought me to tears. God damn I am so glad I found this band, Alternative 4 is the best thing I've heard since...I dunno, maybe DT's Changing Seasons. This is a powerful album though, I really love it... Anyone have any recommendations for where to go next? I'd want to try out Weather Systems but given that I've already heard some tracks off the album, I'd rather that be the last thing I get into despite that I've heard it's amazing. I want it to be as 'new' as possible.
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Post by: Orthogonal on August 08, 2013, 01:07:49 PM
Why does this always happen to me? Every time a band comes to town, something comes up that I won't be able to attend. I would LOVE to see them play this year, but I'll be out of town the week they come. DAMMIT!
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on August 08, 2013, 01:09:43 PM
Get We're Here Because We're Here
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Post by: Onno on August 08, 2013, 02:13:12 PM
Inner Silence literally brought me to tears. God damn I am so glad I found this band, Alternative 4 is the best thing I've heard since...I dunno, maybe DT's Changing Seasons. This is a powerful album though, I really love it... Anyone have any recommendations for where to go next? I'd want to try out Weather Systems but given that I've already heard some tracks off the album, I'd rather that be the last thing I get into despite that I've heard it's amazing. I want it to be as 'new' as possible.
Get We're Here Because We're Here
This! Judgement is also very good, as is A Natural Disaster. Both are very good to start with. After that I'd try WS and A Fine Day To Exit.
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Post by: TioJorge on August 08, 2013, 02:16:42 PM
 :tup :tup Next on my queue. Also LOL at Changing Seasons...it really has been a long time since I've actively listened to DT...
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Post by: Onno on August 08, 2013, 02:23:26 PM
:tup :tup Next on my queue. Also LOL at Changing Seasons...it really has been a long time since I've actively listened to DT...
Wow, my sleepy head actually didn't notice that...  :o
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Post by: Heretic on August 08, 2013, 10:49:55 PM
Every single time I listen to Weather Systems or We're Here Because We're Here they feel as fresh and inspiring and beautiful as they did on my initial listens. Such an outstanding band.
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Post by: Sketchy on August 09, 2013, 02:32:46 PM
Alternative 4 is amazing. I love Fragile Dreams so much.
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Post by: Lolzeez on August 09, 2013, 02:36:23 PM
Alternative 4 is amazing. I love Fragile Dreams so much.
THIS THIS THIS THIS.
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Post by: Onno on August 09, 2013, 03:28:01 PM
Lost Control  :heart
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Post by: Sketchy on August 09, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
I'M KILLING MYSELF AGAIN ('cause I'm so empty)

love that bit
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Post by: Orthogonal on August 09, 2013, 06:34:30 PM
I guess I need to pick up Alternative 4 now. I'm expecting good things based on the recs here. I'm picking up the discography in reverse order, it's next on my list, only 4 left to go.
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Post by: ? on August 09, 2013, 10:57:13 PM
Lost Control  :heart
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Post by: senecadawg2 on August 12, 2013, 11:22:54 PM
Bumping this one up to share a video I just found on youtube of One Last Goodbye live in 09 (I believe). Normally can't stand the audience singing over the singer, but damn this is an exception. Left me with some major chills. Especially seeing Vincent's reaction near the end. 

I still feel your love

:hefdaddy :hefdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ)

SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR TO SEE THIS MUSIC BROUGHT TO LIFE IN A FEW WEEKS!
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Post by: dongringo on August 12, 2013, 11:38:24 PM
Bumping this one up to share a video I just found on youtube of One Last Goodbye live in 09 (I believe). Normally can't stand the audience singing over the singer, but damn this is an exception. Left me with some major chills. Especially seeing Vincent's reaction near the end. 

I still feel your love

:hefdaddy :hefdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ)

SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR TO SEE THIS MUSIC BROUGHT TO LIFE IN A FEW WEEKS!

Wow! Great find! Thanks for sharing! I too can't wait for Sept. 29.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on August 12, 2013, 11:44:19 PM
Thanks for posting that video. I saw it once but couldn't find it again. I too got major chills. I can't imagine what it would've been like to have been at that show.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 01, 2013, 11:02:07 PM
Untouchable, Part 2 from Universal! It's incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRt0Ug5WweE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYRt0Ug5WweE&nomobile=1

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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 01, 2013, 11:43:05 PM
That's beautiful. Can't wait to see the rest of the DVD
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Post by: ariich on September 02, 2013, 12:51:36 AM
That was stunning. :'(
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Post by: adace on September 02, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
:hefdaddy
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 02, 2013, 08:20:21 AM
I'm so glad I preordered this.
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 02, 2013, 02:54:48 PM
Bumping this one up to share a video I just found on youtube of One Last Goodbye live in 09 (I believe). Normally can't stand the audience singing over the singer, but damn this is an exception. Left me with some major chills. Especially seeing Vincent's reaction near the end. 

I still feel your love

:hefdaddy :hefdaddy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yiq54bBKHzQ)

SO FUCKING EXCITED FOR TO SEE THIS MUSIC BROUGHT TO LIFE IN A FEW WEEKS!

That made me cry. I felt exactly what vincent felt, the audience is so powerful and singing with emotion. That's the best live version I've heard and the best crowd singalong ever.
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Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 02, 2013, 08:18:10 PM
I gotta be the only person ever to do this, but Micky Dolenz (of The Monkees) is playing the same day as the Anathema show in Minneapolis. Micky's show is at 4PM, and Anathema is much later. I'm likely going to be seeing both concerts on September 22nd. How odd a mix of music for 1 day, lol.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 04, 2013, 10:01:14 PM
So... Anathema/Alcest, co-headlining.

any idea as to which will perform first? I hope it's Alcest, as I'm more excited for Anathema and think they will leave me more satisfied.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 04, 2013, 10:09:12 PM
Maybe they'll rotate from day to day?

I'm worried about how long Anathema will have to play. In addition to Alcest, Mamiffer is also on the bill. They're a pretty good band but I'd hate it if Anathema and Alcest only get an hour or so each. :| I really wish that this tour was just Anathema with either Alcest or Mamiffer opening so they'd have a longer time slot.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 04, 2013, 10:21:30 PM
I agree on all counts. And if it is rotated day to day, I hope I picked the right day  :lol

I really like Alcest as well, but I have a feeling Anathema will leave me feeling inspired rather than melancholy.

As for the issue of them only playing about an hour, I'm not super concerned. For mine, doors open at 6. Mammifer will probably play almost right away for about 30-40 minutes (done by 7ish). Which leaves about 2 hours for each band, barring serious technical difficulties during the transition. Which would leave it off at about midnight.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for.  Fingers crossed.
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Post by: SeRoX on September 04, 2013, 10:30:50 PM
Untouchable, Part 2 from Universal! It's incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRt0Ug5WweE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DYRt0Ug5WweE&nomobile=1



Now that I understand again, Untouchable is one of the greatest piece of music in music history since life has started.
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Post by: ? on September 04, 2013, 10:43:17 PM
You could say its greatness is... untouchable :lhk:

On a serious note, that performance is amazing and Lee looks gorgeous :hearts:
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 04, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
I agree on all counts. And if it is rotated day to day, I hope I picked the right day  :lol

I really like Alcest as well, but I have a feeling Anathema will leave me feeling inspired rather than melancholy.

As for the issue of them only playing about an hour, I'm not super concerned. For mine, doors open at 6. Mammifer will probably play almost right away for about 30-40 minutes (done by 7ish). Which leaves about 2 hours for each band, barring serious technical difficulties during the transition. Which would leave it off at about midnight.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for.  Fingers crossed.
I can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.

I guess I shouldn't worry about this as I'm sure the show will be spectacular regardless.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 04, 2013, 10:48:28 PM
You could say its greatness is... untouchable :lhk:

On a serious note, that performance is amazing and Lee looks gorgeous :hearts:
I've been watching that video almost every day since it was released. And yeah, Lee looks great. Not to mention her voice which is fantastic as well. :heart
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Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 05, 2013, 10:55:17 AM
Lee is adorableness incarnate, I couldn't stop staring at her when I saw the brothers' gig in April and I lovelovelove her :heart
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 05, 2013, 01:35:35 PM
I can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.

I guess I shouldn't worry about this as I'm sure the show will be spectacular regardless.

I sure hope its more than an hour for each band. On the venue website it says start time at 6 and end time at 12. So long as Mammifer gets done quickly, they should each get a minimum of 1.5 hours I would think.

speaking of which, how is Mammifer? I've never heard the name before, and can't find much online.
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 05, 2013, 01:45:07 PM
I can't really see two bands playing for two hours each, in addition to having an opener. But I haven't been to many shows with more than 2 bands on the bill, so I'm not sure how long shows like these usually last. My only comparison was the Devin Townsend, Katatonia, Stolen Babies, and Paradise Lost concert I saw last year. The two support acts got half and hour, and DT and Katatonia only got an hour to an hour and ten minutes or so.

I guess I shouldn't worry about this as I'm sure the show will be spectacular regardless.

I sure hope its more than an hour for each band. On the venue website it says start time at 6 and end time at 12. So long as Mammifer gets done quickly, they should each get a minimum of 1.5 hours I would think.

speaking of which, how is Mammifer? I've never heard the name before, and can't find much online.
I've only listened to Mare Decendrii once, but it was pretty good. It was very mellow and relaxing. I guess I'd describe it as ambient-ish post-rock with piano. They're on Bandcamp, where you can stream their stuff for free.
https://mamiffer.bandcamp.com/
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Post by: lonestar on September 05, 2013, 01:47:18 PM
Bought my ticket today for the Oct 1 show. :metal
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Post by: Mebert78 on September 07, 2013, 06:34:17 PM
Whoa, just found out Anathema is playing in NYC on Saturday, Sept. 14.  Anyone else going???
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Post by: Nekov on September 09, 2013, 09:38:01 AM
Got my ticket today! Seeing them October 12 :dangerwillrobinson:

I thought they'd never come down here so I'm more than excited for this!
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 12, 2013, 05:39:16 PM
From Facebook:
Quote
Due to unavoidable circumstances our usual rhythm section of John and Jamie are unable to join us on this particular tour of America. Our fantastic drummer Daniel Cardoso recommended to us his long term musical partner and best friend Tobel Lopes as bass player for these shows. It sounds amazing and we are really very happy to be here.
This kind of sucks, but at least Danny, Vincent, and Lee will be there. I wonder who will be playing keys.. ???
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Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 13, 2013, 12:37:45 PM
Here's the setlist from last night!
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2013/underground-arts-philadelphia-pa-7bc6466c.html

According to people who were at the show, Danny and Vincent played keys. Also, it looks like they're going to be playing for almost an hour and a half!
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Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 13, 2013, 01:11:10 PM
Now I'm sad I can't attend a show...that's a great setlist.
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Post by: ? on September 13, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
Not enough Alt 4/Judgement songs for my taste, but I don't live in the US and won't see the tour so who am I to complain :P
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Post by: Heretic on September 13, 2013, 02:37:11 PM
lol no way that setlist is amazing.
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Post by: Lolzeez on September 14, 2013, 11:14:47 AM
Not enough Alt 4/Judgement songs for my taste, but I don't live in a country where good concerts happen and won't see the tour so who am I to complain :P
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Post by: senecadawg2 on September 14, 2013, 07:51:04 PM
I was at the Springfield Va show last night. My first time seeing Anathema, and Alcest too. The opener Mammifer was interesting, but I could've done without them (more on that later). Alcest was a considerable step up, and a couple of their songs really blew me away. They closed with a new song, to be released on the upcoming album... REALLY GOOD. Unfortunately the crowd kind of took away from that performance a bit. A couple of super obnoxious Hispanics found their way next to me and proceeded to have a really loud conversation. One of them then got out his phone to record, right in my line of sight. That was the last straw for me, and I had to push him away. Alcest played for about 1 hour 15 minutes, which wasn't too long, but satisfied me anyhow.

Then Anathema... While the two are technically 'co-headlining' it was clear who the crowd was there to see, and they really brought the energy. I was practically on the stage, as I was the first to arrive at the venue (funnily enough, I pulled in to find Vinny sitting on the curb talking on the phone), right between Vinny and Lee. As for the show itself... WOAH! Interestingly enough, the opening song was a little underwhelming, but every single piece after that blew me away. I'm not exaggerating when I say that I spent the hour and a half with nonstop goosebumps. Highlights from the show, SPOILERS if you don't want to know what songs were played (though, if you don't, you probably shouldn't be here anyways).






















Lightning Song
Deep
Thin Air
Dreaming Light
Internal Landscapes
Closer

I honestly can't pick a favorite from these 6, as they were all flawless in my book.

Overall, my only complaint would be the length of the show. I really enjoyed Alcest, and wouldn't have shortened their show. But if they could have done the gig without Mammifer, both bands could have gotten an additional 15 minutes in. Still, what I did get was phenomenal. Sure, the setlist could have used a couple more tracks from Alternative 4 and Judgement, A Natural Disaster too for that matter. But I can't complain about any of the newer songs they chose to play. After the show I bought the Bluray DVD and got the booklet autographed by Vincent and Danny. I chatted a little with both too, and got a few pictures which I'd like to post at some point soon. Danny seemed a little hungry, so I gave him an apple! Both were incredibly generous, kind, and approachable. In a word: genuine. Can't wait for the album next year (which they mentioned during the show), and the next opportunity for me to see these guys live.

Venue: 9.5/10. It was small, cozy, and intimate as all get out. The sound was probably not perfect, but it was damn well close.
Mamiffer: 7/10. Really enjoyable, but like I said, I'd be perfectly happy to sacrifice their slot for 15 minutes more of Alcest and Anathema
Alcest: 10/10. Ignoring the issues with the crowd, I don't think I couldn've enjoyed Alcest more. The heavy parts were executed extremely well, and the rest put me in a trance.
Anathema: 15/10. nuff said.
Overall Experience: 11/10. Maybe the best live show of my life.
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Post by: TheVoxyn on September 15, 2013, 04:16:41 AM
Sounds great! I saw them live three times and they blew me away every time. They have so much energy and so much fun on stage, it's great to see.
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Post by: ? on September 15, 2013, 04:25:20 AM
Nice to hear you had a great time, seneca! :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 15, 2013, 05:49:52 PM
Saw them last night. I'm definitely glad I went to the NYC show instead of Boston (which, for various reasons, I wouldn't have been able to attend) because the band was extremely happy to be playing in NYC to a sold-out show. I really think this affected the bands performance as they were electrified, for lack of a better word (a guy told me after the show that they were way better last night than they were in Philly the other day).

Before the show, I got to meet Vincent Cavanagh. He was walking down the street past the line so a guy called him over. He talked for a bit, showed everyone pictures of his cat  :lol, and took some pictures with fans. He was super nice and very appreciative of everyone who came out. I was so excited to meet him that I kind of blanked out and just thanked him for the music.

So anyway, Mamiffer seemed to divide the audience. Some hated them, and others thought they were great. I was kind of familiar with them beforehand but wasn't sure how they'd come across live. I really enjoyed them, but I'm not sure I'd like to see them play a full show in that kind of environment (small, standing room only venue). Their music was pretty mellow and kind of calming, so I think they'd probably be better suited for a seated theater type place. But regardless, they were a good opener and I'm glad I saw that the opening spot, as they deserve the recognition.

I'm sort of familiar with Alcest but I was really at the show for Anathema. I don't have much to say about them, other than their new stuff sounded fantastic. Cool band, and I'd certainly see them again. The new stuff was my favorite so I’ll buy their new album when it’s out.

SPOILERS













Anathema was, as expected, phenomenal and exceeded my expectations. Daniel Cardoso did a great job on drums, and the temporary bassist fit in well with the band.  Not having a full-time keyboard player didn’t really hurt the band as Danny played the piano parts live (with some orchestral sounds playing on a backing track). The Gathering of the Clouds and Lightening Song were played together, which was one of the highlights for me as they both work so well flowing into each other.  I was kind of disappointed that they didn’t play Everything, as it was on the opening night set list, but the set was excellent regardless. Overall, I’m so glad I finally got see the full band live. The hour and half flew right by, and the band’s energy was contagious.

I’m going to have to disagree with senecadawg2 regarding cutting Mamiffer’s set; I enjoyed them and was glad that they had the chance to play on this tour.  I thought Alcest played for a decent amount of time and didn’t need a longer set (then again, I'm not really a huge fan of theirs) and Anathema could have lengthened their set by two or three songs without running too late. But regardless, it was a fun night and I'm really grateful that I got to see three fantastic bands!

(edited for spelling)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 15, 2013, 07:39:17 PM
Glad you also enjoyed them!

I'm psyched to see what they release next, in 2014.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 17, 2013, 01:51:50 PM
Still in a bit of a daze...

(https://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/ndisla9/IMG_0998_zps40641be7.jpg)
(https://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg483/ndisla9/IMG_1002_zpsc674b7e8.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 17, 2013, 11:33:02 PM
My copy of Universal has shipped.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 18, 2013, 08:59:47 AM
Is it true that the BluRay only has stereo audio?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 18, 2013, 01:34:02 PM
I watched Universal last night in it's entirety (got it at the concert). I'm not a big concert DVD fan, but this was in a league of its own. The filming was fantastic and the ancient theater that they played at was a perfect setting for this show. The orchestra was phenomenal, and while they had plenty of moments to shine, they never took too much attention away from the band. Standouts for me were Everything and Thin Air, both of which were better than the studio versions IMO.

I only have one complaint: Lee's vocals were mixed too low at times. For example, in Internal Landscapes she was mixed at a regular level when singing lead, but her backing vocals (the "senses following me" part) were way too low. For the most part, she was fine but there were several occasions where she was mixed much lower than on the album versions of the songs.

I usually only watch DVDs like these two or three times if at all, but this is something that I can imagine myself coming back to.

My copy also came with an audio version, which is the same track listing as the vinyl release. I was hoping that they'd sell a full audio version, but it seems like the only way to get it would have been to order the fan's edition. I ended up going for this regular version because the entire encore was on the DVD (the fan's edition has the encore exclusive to the Blu-Ray). 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 21, 2013, 10:48:05 AM
watched it last night too. BEAUTIFUlL


Also, figured there may be some interest in this...

https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3255151/breaking-anathema-reveals-details-about-new-album/ (https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3255151/breaking-anathema-reveals-details-about-new-album/)

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While talking with Danny Cavanagh, he stated that the new album will be recorded later this year and possibly spill over into January of next year. The band will enter the studio to record with producer Christer André Cederberg, who worked on Weather Systems and who is currently working with Anathema guest vocalist Petter Carlsen (who released another of my 2012 favorite albums, Clocks Don’t Count).

The new album will feature at least 8 tracks although it might go up to 10. Danny states that two of the tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel to them, although he admits that this does cause him a little bit of worry and concern on what the fans will think. However, he states that he is inspired by the fearlessness of Radiohead songwriter/vocalist Thom Yorke, who Danny says has no concern on what the fans think because he releases the music he wants, lacking a fear of rejection.

Danny also has taken inspiration from his recent attendance at the Atoms For Peace concert in London where he said he danced for 90 minutes straight, something he hasn’t done for years and years. He comments that he went into the concert one musician and left another, charged to create something entirely new and different from what he had previously intended.

Another track that will hopefully appear on the album will be a two-minute (perhaps slightly longer) a cappella piece that features all the current and past members of Anathema as well as ex-The Gathering singer Anneke van Giersbergen and Petter Carlsen.

He wrapped up by admitting that while Weather Systems and We’re Here Because We’re Here were beautiful, fantastic albums, he thinks that he might’ve played it a bit safe, bowing to the fans’ cries for “More guitar!” After this, he stated that the band will gradually shift away from that over the next three albums.

On a personal note, I have to say that talking with Danny was an absolute delight. He’s charming, witty, has just the right amount of ego while still understanding and appreciating the fans, and is so passionate about what he does. For me, Anathema is a band that holds no pretentiousness, who writes honest music with heartbreaking, poignant, and powerful lyrics, and are stellar songwriters. A new album will be a great addition not only to my collection but to a musical landscape that desperately craves those attributes. May 2014 cannot come soon enough for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on September 21, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Oh god bring it on.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 21, 2013, 11:00:45 AM
If 'electronic feel' equates to anything close to 'Closer', I'm psyched. And if it doesn't, I'm even more psyched.

These guys are still relatively young, and gaining momentum.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 21, 2013, 11:04:02 AM
Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 21, 2013, 11:04:37 AM
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He wrapped up by admitting that while Weather Systems and We’re Here Because We’re Here were beautiful, fantastic albums, he thinks that he might’ve played it a bit safe, bowing to the fans’ cries for “More guitar!” After this, he stated that the band will gradually shift away from that over the next three albums.
I thought WS and WHBWH were quite keyboard-driven already...

However, I'm glad to hear they'll continue to explore new things :tup The mention about the a cappella song is very interesting. I wonder if they even want to get Dave Pybus to appear on it because of what happened in 2001 :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sketchy on September 21, 2013, 11:07:23 AM
I am prepared.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on September 21, 2013, 11:10:06 AM
More Thom Yorke influence is never a bad thing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 21, 2013, 11:10:52 AM
...unless one is talking about vocals :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on September 21, 2013, 11:12:20 AM
Whaaaat? Yorke's vocals are amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 21, 2013, 11:13:02 AM
I'm not a fan, sorry!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on September 21, 2013, 11:14:53 AM
Fair enough. Personally he is one of my favourite musicians, can't get enough of whatever he puts out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 21, 2013, 11:19:33 AM
If the past two were playing it safe, I just can't imagine what they're capable of being unleashed. And good Danny is doing what he wants and not giving a shit of what the fans want.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 21, 2013, 11:25:39 AM
This sounds like it's going to be incredible! The a cappella piece sounds like a cool idea.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: carl320 on September 21, 2013, 11:36:08 AM
Looking forward to the show in Chicago tonight  :metal

Not sure what to expect from Alcest.  I never got around to checking any stuff out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 21, 2013, 11:43:45 AM
I want to be optimistic, but I won't until I hear the music. As much as I like the two last albums, you can point at WHBWH as being as good as it is because they spent 6-7 years making it, and had a long time making it as good as it eventually became. With WS they played it safe and basically made a WHBWH 2.0. A great album, but a twin-album music-wise. Now if they try something entirely different, it will probably be hit or miss. I either see the new album being really good, or pretty "meh" overall. Hopefully the former, but you never know.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 21, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
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Another track that will hopefully appear on the album will be a two-minute (perhaps slightly longer) a cappella piece that features all the current and past members of Anathema as well as ex-The Gathering singer Anneke van Giersbergen and Petter Carlsen.
HOLY CRAP I MUST HEAR THIS! :o

Jimmy, I still don't see why you think of WS as being safe, or WHBWH 2.0. Other than being quite spiritual and harmonically rich, I really don't find them to be very similar at all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 21, 2013, 03:23:09 PM
Danny said that a couple of songs on WS were songs that were written for WHBWH and didn't end up on it, so I don't think it's weird that someone would think the albums sound similar. There are a few minor minor minor differences, but otherwise they are the two most similar Anathema albums in their discography, and they have much more in common than many of the older albums have in common with each other for example.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on September 21, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on September 21, 2013, 03:35:44 PM
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh
o/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on September 21, 2013, 03:41:57 PM
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh

Yup.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 21, 2013, 03:45:00 PM
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh
o/
*\o

INTERCEPTED
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 21, 2013, 03:48:25 PM
I don't think WS is bad, but Anathema has 4 or 5 albums that I like more. WS is great for what it is though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 21, 2013, 03:53:13 PM
Except that WS is way better than WHBWH heheheheh

Yup.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 21, 2013, 03:59:25 PM
Danny said that a couple of songs on WS were songs that were written for WHBWH and didn't end up on it, so I don't think it's weird that someone would think the albums sound similar. There are a few minor minor minor differences, but otherwise they are the two most similar Anathema albums in their discography, and they have much more in common than many of the older albums have in common with each other for example.

Yeah, I always thought that if they had released WS and WHBWH as a double album no one would have thought there was something wrong.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on September 22, 2013, 12:47:23 AM
Even the songs that were written before were reworked in a way that made them fit the feel of the album, though. It's a much more acoustic guitar based album and the songs written after show a progression, too. I wouldn't say they sound exactly alike, but rather they sound like they should-- a natural progression.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 22, 2013, 01:04:51 AM
I don't think WS is bad, but Anathema has 4 or 5 albums that I like more. WS is great for what it is though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 22, 2013, 06:46:38 AM
Even the songs that were written before were reworked in a way that made them fit the feel of the album, though. It's a much more acoustic guitar based album and the songs written after show a progression, too. I wouldn't say they sound exactly alike, but rather they sound like they should-- a natural progression.
All of this, particularly about it being more acousitc guitar driven. It really changes the feel quite a bit and works perfectly for that album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 22, 2013, 07:04:22 AM
Danny said that a couple of songs on WS were songs that were written for WHBWH and didn't end up on it, so I don't think it's weird that someone would think the albums sound similar. There are a few minor minor minor differences, but otherwise they are the two most similar Anathema albums in their discography, and they have much more in common than many of the older albums have in common with each other for example.
I still don't get this. To me Weather Systems sounds completely unique, and a lot better.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 22, 2013, 08:49:57 AM
Yeah, WHBWH feels like more of a heavy, guitar-focused album and WS is more of an atmospheric album. Similar yes, but not as similar as some would like to believe.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on September 22, 2013, 09:09:55 AM
Yeah, the whole vibe of WS is so much different. The orchestrations and the use of dual vocalists give it a way distinct tone.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2013, 09:18:21 AM
You guys make it sound like I said Serenades and Weather Systems are different and not WHBWH and WS.  :lol It's fine if you don't agree though, I don't really mind since it's all opinions. I think WS and WHBWH are similar in the way I would say In Absentia and Deadwing are similar. There are differences, but still a very distinctive sound. And like I said, out of the Anathema albums, I think WS and WHBWH are the two "closest" albums you can find.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 22, 2013, 09:28:22 AM
With WS they played it safe and basically made a WHBWH 2.0. A great album, but a twin-album music-wise.
I don't know about everyone else, but I was pretty much taking issue with the above. Saying they're similar is one thing (and arguably inarguable ;) ) but calling it WHBWH 2.0? Yeah, I don't hear that at all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2013, 09:30:41 AM
Like I said, if even Danny (a band-member) said in an interview that parts of the album were leftovers from WHBWH, I don't see why it's something to get all worked up about.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on September 22, 2013, 10:19:27 AM
Like I said, if even Danny (a band-member) said in an interview that parts of the album were leftovers from WHBWH, I don't see why it's something to get all worked up about.
Why not if we disagree with it. People get worked up about lesser things around here.

Regardless of what Danny says, the songs do not sound like just more of WHBWH. Judging music, movies, paintings and other art is more than just relying on what the artist intends or thinks he intended. Danny can say that some songs were just leftovers, but IMO, they still managed to craft a unique album around them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2013, 10:26:20 AM
I agree that our perception of it is just as important with the original idea behind the work, and I don't mind people thinking they are very different. I think songs like Untouchable and Thin Air have the same "style", where a song like "The Storm Before the Calm" has a sound that works on WS but wouldn't on WHBWH.

It feels weird for me talking about WS because I don't even dislike it. My comments make it sound like I think it's a shittier copy of WHBWH and that's not my intent. When WHBWH came out, I was blown away, and it became such a huge album for me, that by the time WS came out, it just couldn't possibly live up to my great expectations after WHBWH. My initial reaction was disappointment, but over time the album has grown on me. While I think WHBWH and Judgement are better, WS is in that category of 4-5 really strong albums behind that, and I still really love it. Beautiful album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 22, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
Minneapolis tonight!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on September 28, 2013, 12:28:14 AM
In case any of you wanted new info about the new lineup and the new album next year. check out my interview I did with Daniel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sketchy on September 28, 2013, 05:39:04 AM
Hah, sounds like an amusing guy. You got Danned (thanks for the interview btw.)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on September 28, 2013, 10:02:40 AM
I watched Universal and Its great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 28, 2013, 03:36:58 PM
In case any of you wanted new info about the new lineup and the new album next year. check out my interview I did with Daniel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y)

Thank you so much for sharing! Great interview, I really enjoyed it. A lot of stuff to be thrilled about, when it comes to the future of Anathema!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on September 28, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
Great interview! The most interesting part is how Daniel Cardoso will be their primary drummer with John Douglas adding additional percussion, synths, and songwriting. I know when they announced that Cardoso will be their new keyboardist they said that he'd also be playing drums, so that's not surprising.

I am kind of curious about what happened to Jamie Cavanagh. He isn't in the Weather Systems promo pictures, only played on two of the songs, and then was considered a live member on the WS tour. In this interview, Danny didn't even mention him and kind of implied that the US tour bassist was now in the band. Seems kind of weird that no one has said anything about his position in the band. :huh: Also, I wonder if John Douglas will tour with the band or if he'll just work with them in the studio.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on September 29, 2013, 04:41:14 AM
Show tonight!!!  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on September 30, 2013, 01:02:47 AM
Show tonight!!!  :metal

Tomorrow for me!!!  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on September 30, 2013, 06:09:49 AM
I'm obviously a little late to the discussion, but I'll chime in by saying I've been a fan of Anathema since the Crestfallen days.  However, their last few releases are some of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard. After hearing the Eternity CD for the first time, I had a strange feeling they were going to be taking future releases in a different direction.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on September 30, 2013, 12:46:48 PM
Am I the only one who gets goosebumps during Untouchable Part 2 when Lee sings "I feeeeell you..."?

Dem feels man. Dem feels.


Dem feels of a perfect fucking album.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 30, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Am I the only one who gets goosebumps during Untouchable Part 2 when Lee sings "I feeeeell you..."?

Dem feels man. Dem feels.


Dem feels of a perfect fucking album.  :metal
I concur with every word here.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 30, 2013, 01:32:12 PM
I think both Untouchable songs are the biggest standouts on the album, and Untouchable 2 especially is just amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on September 30, 2013, 02:22:00 PM
Part 2 is beautiful and all, but it's honestly my 2nd least-favorite song on the album.
Part 1, however, is simply amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 30, 2013, 02:26:06 PM
Part 2 is beautiful and all, but it's honestly my 2nd least-favorite song on the album.
Part 1, however, is simply amazing.

 :|
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 30, 2013, 04:05:53 PM
I think Part 1 sets up Part 2 beautifully, and where Part 1 is like the build-up, Part 2 is the payoff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on September 30, 2013, 04:18:40 PM
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on September 30, 2013, 10:41:36 PM
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.

Just out of curiosity, how long was the total show, all three bands?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on September 30, 2013, 10:52:13 PM
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.

Just out of curiosity, how long was the total show, all three bands?

The first band didn't play...so glad. Alcest played about 1.25 hours and Anathema played their hearts out for 1.5 hours. They were simply amazing...so much energy and feeling. They truly love what they do and it shows.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on September 30, 2013, 11:34:34 PM
Cool, I was just curious cause public transportation shuts down after midnight here.

Soooo looking forward to the show!!!! My bro bailed on me so I'm going solo, gonna get there early and plant myself right in front!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 01, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
Saw the show last night and it was stunning!!! Can't say enough about how great it was.

Just out of curiosity, how long was the total show, all three bands?

The first band didn't play...so glad. Alcest played about 1.25 hours and Anathema played their hearts out for 1.5 hours. They were simply amazing...so much energy and feeling. They truly love what they do and it shows.

If the show I attended is any indication, even if Mamiffer had played it wouldn't have affected the setlist length of Alcest and Anathema, so no reason to be glad about that. Unless you were glad because you just don't like Mamiffer. I myself had never heard any of there stuff, and found it to be a pleasant surprise. Not something I would ever likely buy, but still neat to see in the live setting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on October 01, 2013, 10:33:00 AM
I can only take so many bands in one shoe, it was fine by me, especially since I had to work early the next day. Nothing against them personally.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on October 01, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
kicking it across the street from the venue, just waiting for a line to start. Always hate being first :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 01, 2013, 05:18:10 PM
kicking it across the street from the venue, just waiting for a line to start. Always hate being first :p

Yeh... I got to mine a few hours early as well  :D I was lucky enough to run into Vinnie in the parking lot when I arrived. I kept my cool and just gave him a smile, even though I wanted to run and hug. He was having a conversation on the phone, so I didn't really have much of a choice.

I hope you have a brilliant time!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on October 01, 2013, 08:29:34 PM
The concert in my area happens on Thursday but I doubt I'll have the funds to go. :sadpanda: Stupid ticketbastard >:(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on October 02, 2013, 01:08:46 AM
Holy fucking shit, what an amazing show.  :hefdaddy




Edit: OK, finally home... so Mammifer was ok, nothing really special. I kept waiting for them to get rolling, then their set ended. Alcest was good, I am totally new to Alcest, had listened to a few tunes before the show but that was it. They had some major sound issues, kept adjusting levels into the fifth song, and still never got it right. I was beginning to think it was the venue or something, but Anathema cleared that thinking up quickly. Alcest sounded good when going all out, but when they went to the more delicate sections, it sounded muffled and kinda crappy, too bad cause I think their music was rock solid. Anathema was just fucking amazing, I was front row right in front of Lee, could of touched her feet I was so close. They were crystal clear, nailed every note perfectly, and were charismatic as all hell. Easily one of the best live bands I have ever seen.



Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on October 02, 2013, 07:27:58 AM
In Portland, I also was front center and high fived the brothers torward the end. I actually can't remembter much about Alcest. They were ok. But I remember every single thing about Anathema. They are one outstanding band, one of the best shows of my very long concert going life. And I thought it would sound terrible in the Hawthorne Theater because that venue usually has major sound issues, but it sounded fantastic. Either it was because I was front center or I'm wondering if they invested in a new sound system because everyone was crystal clear. I'll never think about the Hawthorne Theater the same again. Outstanding show!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on October 02, 2013, 02:06:27 PM
Interesting. I had seen Firewind at the same venue, and they had the same buried vocal issues that Alcest did, so I thought it the venue's fault as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: dongringo on October 02, 2013, 03:17:33 PM
Acoustics and location must have a lot to do with it. When I saw Mew there from the far right side it was ear splitting and I spent the whole show covering my ears as to not blow them out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on October 02, 2013, 06:20:24 PM
I thought that was part of the problem with Alcest as well, I was below the big speakers for the venue. Funny, after Alcest, the crowd kinda formed in the middle of the place(which allowed me to get up front for Anathema) thinking that the sound would be better, but it was pristine where I was, and I was literally standing next to the stage left monitor and Lee's monitor.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 02, 2013, 06:55:51 PM
I thought that was part of the problem with Alcest as well, I was below the big speakers for the venue. Funny, after Alcest, the crowd kinda formed in the middle of the place(which allowed me to get up front for Anathema) thinking that the sound would be better, but it was pristine where I was, and I was literally standing next to the stage left monitor and Lee's monitor.

I was standing in the exact same place (practically on the stage with Lee an armslength away), at my show as well and the sound was great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on October 02, 2013, 07:28:15 PM
I thought that was part of the problem with Alcest as well, I was below the big speakers for the venue. Funny, after Alcest, the crowd kinda formed in the middle of the place(which allowed me to get up front for Anathema) thinking that the sound would be better, but it was pristine where I was, and I was literally standing next to the stage left monitor and Lee's monitor.

I was standing in the exact same place (practically on the stage with Lee an armslength away), at my show as well and the sound was great.

As was the view ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 12, 2013, 01:39:31 PM
Seeing them live for the first time in less than 3 hours. Super excited!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 12, 2013, 01:42:55 PM
The recent setlists look awesome, so you're in for a real treat!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 12, 2013, 01:45:30 PM
The recent setlists look awesome, so you're in for a real treat!

WOAH.... I just checked to see what you were talking about. The set lists have changed quite a bit. Awesome for Nekov, assuming he likes those songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 12, 2013, 01:46:56 PM
I haven't checked the set list. I wanna be surprised  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 12, 2013, 01:49:40 PM
I tried to not look either, but ended up accidentally looking at the setlist taped to the floor in front of Lee right before the show started  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 12, 2013, 01:52:41 PM
 :lol I'll try to avoid doing that
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 12, 2013, 03:04:34 PM
You guys are lucky. ...I'm tempted to look.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 13, 2013, 09:00:06 AM
Amazing show last night. Aside from the music I loved how the guys interacted with the crowd and how you could see they were having so much fun playing for us, inviting the crowd to participate in singing and chanting their melodies.
My only complaint was the sound which I don't think was their fault since they nailed everything right, but the drums were a bit louder than the rest of the band. And they didn't play "everything" which is one of my favorite songs but still, I had a lot of fun tonight.

And they said they're recording a new album in December  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 13, 2013, 12:33:31 PM
Glad you enjoyed it!

Amazing show last night. Aside from the music I loved how the guys interacted with the crowd and how you could see they were having so much fun playing for us, inviting the crowd to participate in singing and chanting their melodies.
My only complaint was the sound which I don't think was their fault since they nailed everything right, but the drums were a bit louder than the rest of the band. And they didn't play "everything" which is one of my favorite songs but still, I had a lot of fun tonight.

And they said they're recording a new album in December  :D

Should be ready for release by Spring! Early AOTY contender for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 13, 2013, 01:17:25 PM
Before even hearing it? lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on October 13, 2013, 02:20:45 PM
I'm gonna see them in November. EXCITED!!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 13, 2013, 07:36:34 PM
Before even hearing it? lol

yeah I realize it's not best to get my hopes up, and that you likely wouldn't have been as disappointed with WS if you hadn't gotten your own hopes up. But in my defense, there's not a whole lot of other stuff I'm really looking forward to in 2014, yet.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on October 14, 2013, 10:55:47 AM
I'm sure whatever they release will be awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 15, 2013, 07:03:38 AM
I'm sure whatever they release will be awesome.

If they keep the same line I'll be really happy.

And I forgot to mention, I fell in love with Lee but in a totally platonic way. I was a little far from the stage so I couldn't really see her clearly but her voice, oh my god!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on November 22, 2013, 02:21:15 AM
I actually met Jamie Cavanaugh quite by accident today in Sydney.
He's touring Australia doing the lighting for Finnish band Moonsorrow.
I was showing the band the Opera House etc, and Jamie pops up and starts snapping away with his camera.
I had a chat to him about Anathema and asked about the Universal lack of 5.1 sound.
He said he didn't know that there wasn't a surround mix, but said it was probably because Steve Wilson was not available to do it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 25, 2013, 08:11:14 AM
Man, it's almost criminal how little discussion "Universal" is getting. 

It's easily the concert film of the year IMO. Such a great performance, in a really cool atmospheric venue. It definitely makes you love what this band are doing, and you can totally buy it when they say things about feeling like a new band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 25, 2013, 08:49:29 AM
Like I've said before, I don't really watch live dvds that much. For me it's mostly a matter of time, I'm always doing something, and setting aside 2 hours to watch a concert is not high up on my list. It's different than something like a movie, in the case with concerts, the visual part is appealing to me if I am actually seeing live on place, but seeing it at home isn't as exciting. I do tend to listen to all the live albums I'm interested in though, listening means I can still do other things on the side.

And Universal is a great live album. A bit too much WHBWH/WS for my taste perhaps (not that those albums are bad, a few more older songs would have been cool), but I obviously understand why the setlists looks the way it does.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 25, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
Like I've said before, I don't really watch live dvds that much. For me it's mostly a matter of time, I'm always doing something, and setting aside 2 hours to watch a concert is not high up on my list. It's different than something like a movie, in the case with concerts, the visual part is appealing to me if I am actually seeing live on place, but seeing it at home isn't as exciting. I do tend to listen to all the live albums I'm interested in though, listening means I can still do other things on the side.

And Universal is a great live album. A bit too much WHBWH/WS for my taste perhaps (not that those albums are bad, a few more older songs would have been cool), but I obviously understand why the setlists looks the way it does.

Yeah, the band seem to consider WHBWH to be their first album. I guess that's not great for older fans, but considering the direction they've been going in, and how much I like it better than their old stuff, it's cool to see a band committing to their new material to such a great extent.

Universal is visually great thanks to the venue, too. Looks like a very good place to watch a concert.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on November 25, 2013, 09:43:47 AM
Man, it's almost criminal how little discussion "Universal" is getting. 

It's easily the concert film of the year IMO. Such a great performance, in a really cool atmospheric venue. It definitely makes you love what this band are doing, and you can totally buy it when they say things about feeling like a new band.
I watched it a few weeks ago and thought it was awesome  :tup

Vincent is probably my favourite vocalist right now, I love his voice and the emotion he puts in to his performances. Even when I saw them supporting Opeth last year when I wasn't quite as big a fan, he still blew me away  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 25, 2013, 09:50:33 AM
Universal is amazing. I might watch today in fact.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 25, 2013, 10:09:35 AM
Like Zantera, I also rarely get into live DVD's. It's just not usually worth the time commitment, for me.

With that being said, I completely agree with all of this:
Man, it's almost criminal how little discussion "Universal" is getting. 

It's easily the concert film of the year IMO. Such a great performance, in a really cool atmospheric venue. It definitely makes you love what this band are doing, and you can totally buy it when they say things about feeling like a new band.

Universal is the exception to my rule about live DVD's. I've watched it about 6 times through now, and that number would be higher if I had a bluray player with me here at school.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Perpetual Change on November 25, 2013, 01:33:29 PM
Glad to see I was wrong about it not getting any love.

Yeah, Universal is great. Might be a favorite live DVD for me, up there with some of the best. It kinda just feels very special and unique compared to most other live DVDs I have.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Silver Tears on November 25, 2013, 02:33:32 PM
Hmm maybe I should watch it
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on November 25, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
I've only been able to watch Universal once since I've been pretty busy, but it's incredible. I'm not a big fan of concert DVDs, but this is definitely one of my favorites. My only complaints are that Lee's vocals are too low in the mix at times (e.g. her backing vocals on Internal Landscapes) and the fact that they had an orchestra but didn't include any of the reworked songs from Falling Deeper. Crestfallen/Sleep In Sanity and Sunset of Age would have been great. But otherwise, I love it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 25, 2013, 04:06:48 PM
Hmm maybe I should watch it

Oh yeah, you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 25, 2013, 04:59:00 PM
"And now the version of Fragile Dreams you all want to hear."
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 25, 2013, 05:21:50 PM
That's actually one of the only things that bothers me about the DVD. Knowing that they were going to play the normal version without the orchestra, why not swap out that first fragile dreams for something else?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 25, 2013, 05:28:01 PM
That's actually one of the only things that bothers me about the DVD. Knowing that they were going to play the normal version without the orchestra, why not swap out that first fragile dreams for something else?

Because they probably prefer the new version of Fragile Dreams over the original, yet to please fans they included the original so fans won't be upset.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 26, 2013, 02:19:44 AM
One version of Fragile Dreams is enough really.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 26, 2013, 08:02:54 AM
I agree. And that frees up space for something else from Judgement or Are You There?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on November 26, 2013, 11:27:52 AM
Haha they probably wouldve added another WHBWH song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on November 26, 2013, 11:54:03 AM
I'm one of those guys who wouldn't be disappointed if they considered WHBWH to be their "first" album like PC was saying. I like the older stuff a lot, but the newer direction they've gone in is just more for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 26, 2013, 01:09:58 PM
I've never seen Anathema live, so hopefully the pre-WHBWH era will be represented with more songs than just Fragile Dreams, Deep and a couple of tunes from AND on the next tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 26, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
The best pre-WHBWH song for me, to hear live, would be One Last Goodbye. Didn't get to hear it this first time, but they seem to play it a lot so hopefully next time. So long as they come tour the US again after their next album...

Then again, with the next album, on top of WHBWH and WS, they may start playing even fewer of the old songs live. Apart from Closer and Fragile Dreams, I wouldn't be surprised if they left the rest alone.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 26, 2013, 03:41:17 PM
There's plenty of magic stuff from the older albums to pick from. I think a problem might be that the band didn't get any studio album out between 2003 and 2010, so when they finally got WHBWH out, the old stuff felt really dull to play, after years and years of playing it, or something like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on December 04, 2013, 03:55:24 PM
The band has posted a couple of studio updates on Facebook. This one has about a minute worth of music (piano and drums).
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152028656363629&set=vb.125049763628&type=2&theater

Sounds really nice! Looking forward to hearing the completed version.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 04, 2013, 04:42:01 PM
They really do sound nice!

and Danny liked a comment I left on the most recent one  :blush
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 16, 2013, 06:23:09 AM
I finally bought Universal (DVD+CD) and watched it today. The lack of extras is mildly disappointing, but the show itself is really great. I think the setlist would've been more balanced if they had scattered the old songs throughout the set instead of saving them for the end, and not playing any Falling Deeper stuff with the orchestra was a missed opportunity, but the performance is amazing and watching the show truly makes you wish you'd been there. Also, when it comes to the mix, this release puts Live at Luna Park to shame - the balance between the instruments is perfect AND you can hear the audience well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 20, 2013, 01:10:00 AM
(sorry for double post)

I watched the DVD again yesterday and realized that you can see one violinist's sheets between Closer and A Natural Disaster, and one of them says Kingdom. WHY COULDN'T THEY PLAY IT? :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: CharlieDominietzsche on December 20, 2013, 12:39:13 PM
Fuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkk

Turns out Anathema was in town a few months ago and I didn't even know about it. Someone at Guitar Center started talking to me about it because I was wearing my Anathema shirt, and I just had no clue. I really need to start paying attention to/going to more concerts.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 20, 2013, 12:40:52 PM
Where do you live? And nice username, btw.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: CharlieDominietzsche on December 20, 2013, 01:02:34 PM
Where do you live? And nice username, btw.

Thanks. I live in the Twin Cities area.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 23, 2014, 11:26:39 PM
Got Weather Systems, loving it so far. Untouchable Part 1 and The Storm Before The Calm are my favorites so far. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 24, 2014, 03:08:22 AM
Where do you live? And nice username, btw.

Thanks. I live in the Twin Cities area.

yeah I was there. It was a sweet show. Alcest were quite good too.

JRundquist even interviewed Danny before the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_n4rGVH2Y

I hope they come back, although I wouldn't assume anything. They mentioned how they did better financially than they expected on that US tour. Their merch had been dwindled down when they were in town, from so much of the stock being bought at previous shows.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on January 24, 2014, 05:14:53 AM
Got Weather Systems, loving it so far. Untouchable Part 1 and The Storm Before The Calm are my favorites so far. :)

 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on January 26, 2014, 07:57:16 PM
Got Weather Systems, loving it so far. Untouchable Part 1 and The Storm Before The Calm are my favorites so far. :)
I fucking love that last song. Are you new on Anathema?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on January 26, 2014, 07:58:25 PM
Yep, first album. :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on January 26, 2014, 08:03:57 PM
Yep, first album. :D
Awesome. I'm almost a new fan too and besides WS, I've just listened to Alternative 4. Give it a try, it's amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 01, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
Quote
Recently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.

Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.

Radiohead sounds interesting, but Atoms For Peace was one of the most mediocre releases of last year, so I don't know. It feels like it will either be a pretty cool album or a pretty underwhelming one. It's Anathema though, so I expect a pretty good album, but nothing that will be on my top lists for 2014. There's 3 or 4 releases in May alone that I am more excited about.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on March 01, 2014, 05:51:46 AM
Most of the times, if any given band/artist is influenced by other music, usually it'll come out not sounding anywhere close to that. I also thought Atoms for Peace's record wasn't that good. Radiohead influences sound interesting though. Not playing it safe sounds even better. WHBWH was a highlight, WS was a bit too much in the 'heavenly' sound department IMHO. Time for some more balls I hope.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 01, 2014, 06:25:46 AM
I thought A Fine Day to Exit was quite Radiohead-influenced already... Well, my sister likes Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, so I should force her to listen to the new album when it comes out :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on March 01, 2014, 08:44:49 AM
Here's a random appreciation for Barriers. Great song. I might as well give an appreciation for A Fine Day To Exit.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on March 01, 2014, 09:14:56 AM
Quote
Recently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.

Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.

Radiohead sounds interesting, but Atoms For Peace was one of the most mediocre releases of last year, so I don't know. It feels like it will either be a pretty cool album or a pretty underwhelming one. It's Anathema though, so I expect a pretty good album, but nothing that will be on my top lists for 2014. There's 3 or 4 releases in May alone that I am more excited about.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. The influence will be a stylistic one, incorporated into Anathema's own style, and has nothing to do with quality.

Either way, new music from them excites me immensely! :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 01, 2014, 10:31:33 AM
Amok was a good album, though I thought the drums were shitty and too loud.

I loved Weather Systems so much. A step in that direction with some changes...yes please.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 01, 2014, 10:34:12 AM
Most of the times, if any given band/artist is influenced by other music, usually it'll come out not sounding anywhere close to that. I also thought Atoms for Peace's record wasn't that good. Radiohead influences sound interesting though. Not playing it safe sounds even better. WHBWH was a highlight, WS was a bit too much in the 'heavenly' sound department IMHO. Time for some more balls I hope.

Agree on all your comments except for your issues with WS. 'Heavenly' is Anathema at their best, I think. May promises to be a strong month for releases!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 01, 2014, 12:57:43 PM
Quote
Recently, Anathema's singer/multi-instrumentalist Daniel Cavanagh announced that the band has been working on its 10th studio album, and that it is scheduled for release in May of this year.

Cavanagh stated that he was influenced by Radiohead and Atoms for Peace, and that some tracks will have a slightly more electronic feel. He also talked about a possible short acapella song. He says the next album will follow the same path than the previous two, but he stated that, on those past releases, the band has played it a bit safe, and that Anathema plans to gradually shift away from that on the next few albums.

Radiohead sounds interesting, but Atoms For Peace was one of the most mediocre releases of last year, so I don't know. It feels like it will either be a pretty cool album or a pretty underwhelming one. It's Anathema though, so I expect a pretty good album, but nothing that will be on my top lists for 2014. There's 3 or 4 releases in May alone that I am more excited about.
I'm not sure I follow the logic here. The influence will be a stylistic one, incorporated into Anathema's own style, and has nothing to do with quality.

Either way, new music from them excites me immensely! :D

Agree with this all the way.

Also-- I've learned to stop having expectations for albums, really. When you go into an album thinking "man, this probably won't be that good" or "no way this will make my top albums list this year" then you're going it pessimistically, and what good is that?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 01, 2014, 01:17:30 PM
the Radiohead influence is what makes A Natural Disaster poke out in their discography, so i'm expecting that the new album will be related to its sound. i'm about 50/50 on AND myself, but i know a lot of people find it a highlight overall, so i'd be surprised if it landed particularly differently.

someone mentioned A Fine Day to Exit — agreed that the Radiohead influence is all over it as well, but it's more like the OK Computer sound, whereas AND has the bleeps-and-bloops RH (and thus Atoms For Peace) influence on its sleeve. AFDTE is my favourite of their albums. it's a bit unfortunate they only explored its textures the one time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 01, 2014, 04:22:11 PM
I think going on with a completely clean mind and no expectations is almost impossible to do. It's similar with movies you are looking forward to. There's teasers/trailers/info you get before the actual thing, and they do give you some hint to what's coming. Now, a band saying that band X influenced the new album doesn't give everything away, and it's not like that tiny piece of information crushed my expectations, it's just more of a "eh really?" kind of reaction. Anathema is a great band, and I'm sure they will do a great album. To turn it around, I'm actually very happy about the new direction. The WHBWH/WS sound has gotten pretty stale IMO, and it's nice to see the band move on, instead of putting out another "safe" bet. If by electronic we get songs similar to Closer, then I am all in.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on March 01, 2014, 05:16:58 PM
Now, a band saying that band X influenced the new album doesn't give everything away, and it's not like that tiny piece of information crushed my expectations, it's just more of a "eh really?" kind of reaction.
I just don't understand the link between a stylistic influence and the quality of something. As far as I'm concerned, those two are entirely unrelated.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on March 01, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
They could be related if you don't like the thing that has applied the influence. I guess.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 01, 2014, 05:34:25 PM
They could be related if you don't like the thing that has applied the influence. I guess.

Yeah I think so too. Even if it's just an influence (that might not even be very noticeable in the end), it comes from something that just wasn't good. (IMO ofc)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on March 01, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
Was it the style/genre of the Atoms for Peace album that you didn't like, or was it a style that you normally like but you just didn't think it was very good?

When a band is influenced by another, it's not like they say "well that album had a pretty average reception, so let's aim for that sort of quality". I'm assuming Danny was talking about stylistic elements that have influenced him from Radiohead and from AFP, which for me personally has absolutely no bearing on the quality of something. Obviously if you have certain styles that you don't like, then that will, but it wasn't clear from your posts whether that's the case. That's all I'm trying to understand.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 01, 2014, 07:36:53 PM
Electronic music in general is something I like, but Atoms For Peace and some of the most recent Radiohead (who both share similarities) has just felt pretty boring to me. That particular sound. They could take influences and make it better ofc, and they probably will. To me, reading that part on Atoms For Peace being an influence, I had the same reaction I would probably have if JJ Abrams went out and said that the new Star Wars movie would be influenced by the prequels. Sure, influence and quality might be different, but the sound of Atoms For Peace was very flat and dull, and wasn't very creative or special, so it's hard for me to identify anything good they could take from it. But whatever, it's Anathema. They can do a rap album if they want, I'd buy it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on March 02, 2014, 12:46:27 AM
So now we have Anathema, Devy, and Agalloch all in the same month. :metal :tup

Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 02, 2014, 07:04:09 AM
Also-- I've learned to stop having expectations for albums, really. When you go into an album thinking "man, this probably won't be that good" or "no way this will make my top albums list this year" then you're going it pessimistically, and what good is that?

This is how I am. Music is meant to be enjoyed, so I see if I enjoy it or not. Later on, I may break an album down scientifically to see what I like or don't like.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 02, 2014, 10:51:57 AM
Also-- I've learned to stop having expectations for albums, really. When you go into an album thinking "man, this probably won't be that good" or "no way this will make my top albums list this year" then you're going it pessimistically, and what good is that?

This is how I am. Music is meant to be enjoyed, so I see if I enjoy it or not. Later on, I may break an album down scientifically to see what I like or don't like.

I never have expectations for Music,  sometimes most bands worst albuns are my favorites, same with songs.

I'm really interested in this, if its gonna be less safe and have electronic elements.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on March 02, 2014, 08:12:40 PM
I'm really interested in this, if its gonna be less safe and have electronic elements.
I hope that with "electronic elements" they mean something like The Storm Before the Calm.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on March 04, 2014, 10:16:46 PM
Australian Tour  :omg:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/1398543_10152238961213629_261476663_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 05, 2014, 12:50:34 AM
"An evening with Anathema"? Looks like they'll play a long set since they're coming to Australia for the first time.

Also, American fans get to see Anathema this month... but with HIM :puke:
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Anathema will support HIM on their North American dates this spring on the following dates:

Mar 07 - House Of Blues - Los Angeles, CA
Mar 08 - House of Blues - Anaheim, CA
Mar 09 - Fillmore San - Francisco, CA
Mar 12 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL
Mar 13 - House Of Blues - Cleveland, OH
Mar 14 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 15 - Theatre Of Living Arts - Philadelphia, PA
Mar 16 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 18 - Center Stage - Atlanta, GA
Mar 19 - House Of Blues - Orlando, FL
Mar 20 - Revolution - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Mar 24 - House of Blues - New Orleans, LA
Mar 25 - House of Blues - Houston, TX
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 05, 2014, 11:10:40 AM
I'm gonna pass on seeing Anathema with HIM. Never listened to HIM don't think I ever will. The last American tour package with Mamiffer and Alcest were as good as it'll get IMO.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2014, 11:24:56 AM
Mamiffer and Alcest really were great, but I do think the package could get better. It's just a simple, evening with Anathema, 2.5 hour set.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 05, 2014, 11:35:10 AM
Oh, I'd take a 2.5 hour Anathema set with the setlist containing only songs from Alternative 4 onward any day of the week!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2014, 12:03:26 PM
Oh, I'd take a 2.5 hour Anathema set with the setlist containing only songs from Alternative 4 onward any day of the week!

absolutely!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on March 05, 2014, 02:14:51 PM
I could go to Atlanta to see them but I'm seeing BTBAM 2 days later in Athens and I really have no desire to see HIM
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 05, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
Never listened to HIM don't think I ever will.
Believe me, you're not missing out on anything! :lol

I know HIM are popular, but it's unfair that great bands like Anathema and Paradise Lost have to support them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TexansDT on March 05, 2014, 03:36:57 PM
"An evening with Anathema"? Looks like they'll play a long set since they're coming to Australia for the first time.

Also, American fans get to see Anathema this month... but with HIM :puke:
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Anathema will support HIM on their North American dates this spring on the following dates:

Mar 07 - House Of Blues - Los Angeles, CA
Mar 08 - House of Blues - Anaheim, CA
Mar 09 - Fillmore San - Francisco, CA
Mar 12 - House of Blues - Chicago, IL
Mar 13 - House Of Blues - Cleveland, OH
Mar 14 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 15 - Theatre Of Living Arts - Philadelphia, PA
Mar 16 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
Mar 18 - Center Stage - Atlanta, GA
Mar 19 - House Of Blues - Orlando, FL
Mar 20 - Revolution - Fort Lauderdale, FL
Mar 24 - House of Blues - New Orleans, LA
Mar 25 - House of Blues - Houston, TX

I was willing to see them even with HIM (who, to be fair, I know nothing about) because I've fallen head over heels for this band.  But, the night they are in Houston I've already got tickets to see TOOL (who I've never seen).  I was even willing to go if the Anathema show started at 7pm, but they start at 8 which is when TOOL goes on.  Curses!

Here's hoping we get a headlining tour with the next album...!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on March 05, 2014, 06:20:48 PM
I was willing to see them even with HIM (who, to be fair, I know nothing about) because I've fallen head over heels for this band.  But, the night they are in Houston I've already got tickets to see TOOL (who I've never seen).  I was even willing to go if the Anathema show started at 7pm, but they start at 8 which is when TOOL goes on.  Curses!

Here's hoping we get a headlining tour with the next album...!!

Tool is a great live show, I saw them at Red Rocks in Denver in 2000ish. I wish Anathema was coming to Austin, I'd go. I know nothing about them presently though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on March 05, 2014, 08:30:55 PM
I wonder what will be the title for the new album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 05, 2014, 09:21:35 PM
I was willing to see them even with HIM (who, to be fair, I know nothing about) because I've fallen head over heels for this band.  But, the night they are in Houston I've already got tickets to see TOOL (who I've never seen).  I was even willing to go if the Anathema show started at 7pm, but they start at 8 which is when TOOL goes on.  Curses!

TOOL's probably the last band that I need to see live in concert. Only problem is that they don't seem to play in the NYC area that often...which sucks cause that's where I'm from.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TexansDT on March 05, 2014, 10:06:25 PM
Just as a follow-up from my concert lament above: after making sweet love to Weather Systems for the last few months, I picked up WHBWH a couple weeks ago. My God. I can't stop listening to it. Just as powerful and emotive as WS. I can't wait to see what Anathema crank out next.

And the best part is, I also get to explore 9 other albums (if I include Hindsight and Falling Deeper) and 2 EPs at some point! I'll even give the early death/doom stuff a whirl, though that's not usually my cup of tea.

Can't thank all of y'all enough for pimpin' this band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on March 06, 2014, 08:36:46 PM
I picked up WHBWH a couple weeks ago. My God. I can't stop listening to it. Just as powerful and emotive as WS. I can't wait to see what Anathema crank out next.
This. I discovered this amazing band when a friend put it as his 2012 AOTY (just above Flying Colors). I've been digging their discography from Alternative 4 to WS and I'm blown away. There's some weird stuff on AFDTE/AND but every song this band has made is unique, has pure creativity and lots of beauty.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on March 07, 2014, 01:56:46 PM
So how are these guys live? They'll be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks in a small venue, worth seeing?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on March 07, 2014, 02:29:23 PM
So how are these guys live? They'll be in my neck of the woods in a few weeks in a small venue, worth seeing?
I don't think anyone in this thread is going to say anything other than a resounding YES  ;D I saw them supporting Opeth about 18 months ago and they were great, would love to see them again on a headline tour. Their recent live Bluray was brilliant too. Even just watching live clips of them on Youtube, you can get a sense of the emotion that goes into their performances.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 07, 2014, 04:03:43 PM
I would consider Anathema to be one of those bands that you need to see live at least once before you die. They put on a great show, and you can tell that they really enjoy being up on stage and care about putting on a great show. I saw them co-headline with Alcest with support from Mamiffer last year and it was well worth the wait for Anathema to finally play in the US.

I'll give a bit of a heads up regarding their setlist. If you think there's a slight chance they'll ever play one or two songs from their death/doom phase, you'll be sorely disappointed. As far as how far back they dig out "old" songs, the oldest album they go back to on a regular basis is Alternative 4 (sometimes Eternity). All of their death/doom albums are more or less retired for good according to Danny Cavanagh himself.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheVoxyn on March 08, 2014, 06:54:47 AM
I'm glad this band is having such a popularity increase, they deserve it. If you look at page 1 of this thread, half the posts are mine  :lol. They have come quite a far way since then.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on March 08, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
For $12 I don't think it'll be a bad way to spend the night, I'm going to go and check them out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 08, 2014, 09:31:45 AM
$12 for a ticket? :o Man that's cheap even for Anathema!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 12, 2014, 10:03:36 PM
For $12 I don't think it'll be a bad way to spend the night, I'm going to go and check them out.

You won't regret that decision one bit! I hope

I also saw them this past year, with Alcest, and it's the best show I've ever experienced (albeit a rather short list of competition, but including Steven Wilson, DT, Opeth, and a few of the other popular bands around these parts). PolarizeMe nailed it, per what to expect from the setlist. Hope you enjoy!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 15, 2014, 07:05:54 AM
Nice little interview with Vinny that I just saw on FB. I'm not sure any of this hasn't already been said, but still a nice read.

https://metalassault.com/Interviews/2014/03/14/anathema-frontman-discusses-next-album-touring-more/ (https://metalassault.com/Interviews/2014/03/14/anathema-frontman-discusses-next-album-touring-more/)

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British eclectic rock band Anathema have been exploring a broad range of musical horizons over the nearly 25 years of their existence and have traveled a greatly diverse stylistic journey. While they’re not heavy on a sonically superficial level as they were in their early death/doom metal days, there’s still a large section of fans of rock and metal fans that can appreciate the band’s modern-day approach towards creating and portraying their art. After completing an overwhelmingly successful and long-awaited first ever tour of the United States last fall, they have returned to these shores for another run of dates, this time as main support to Finnish goth rockers HIM. The House Of Blues Sunset Strip in West Hollywood played host to the first show of this tour on Friday March 7th, and about 30 minutes before Anathema took the stage, I sat down with vocalist/guitarist Vincent Cavanagh to discuss the tour, mixing stages of the next album, and more. Enjoy the insightful conversation below, along with live photos from the LA show.

Vincent, you were here in Los Angeles on your first ever US tour a few months ago and today you’re starting another tour. How are you doing?

Feeling good. It’s been a really strange and bizarre day in a good way, I suppose. We’re right in the middle of making our album. We’re in the mixing stage right now and this morning we were given some news that I had to basically finish one of the tracks. That’s what I’ve been doing for the best part of today. In truth, we should really be in the studio right now. But we’ve decided to come on this tour for various reasons, number one I guess was the opportunity to go out with our friends, finally in the US. Ville has asked us to come out with them to the US three times now, so it was like, if we couldn’t do it this time it would almost be rude, you know. So we didn’t want to do that, plus the fact that we have faith in our producer to finish the mixes because he’s been there since the beginning. But at the moment, today basically I’ve been working all day on the mixes. I’ve been mixing tracks and getting them ready for the final push. I have some of the session on the laptop. So, the gig today is actually secondary for me. It’s actually the easy part of the day. But if I appear to be in a somewhat contemplative mood, it’s because I’m somewhere in the middle of the album, mixing down this song, and the gig itself is going to be bizarre for that very reason. But I think it’s good. It’s almost like a distraction from my day. I can get in there and just have fun for 45 minutes.

That’s an interesting situation to be in. The gig is something you don’t even have to think about. I guess it’s almost like muscle memory.

Muscle memory. Exactly, that’s what it is. I remember even when I was 17 years old and doing gigs, I was always happy to do it and I was never nervous. The trick is to not think about it too much and don’t expect anything either. For me, it’s just getting on and letting it happen right there, not thinking about it. Be in the moment as much as you can possibly be and try to enjoy it!



You did the headline tour recently and played at the El Rey with Alcest and Mamiffer. Did you even expect to be back so soon?

I guess not! Had things just flowed normally into the next headline tour, I guess we would have been back in amount a year, so around early next year. But this opportunity came around. We have new management and he’s working us hard. I said to him, ‘Listen, we’re in the middle of mixing, so for me it’s a compromise to break up the mix and come on tour in the middle of it.’ But he told us that we had to do it, and I didn’t really listen to him. I still didn’t want to do it. But then I listened to the producer explain how it was going to be done. We actually got a studio booked in Chicago in a couple of days, so we do the first three gigs in Los Angeles, Anaheim and San Francisco and then Danny and I fly to Chicago where we’re going to work in a studio to finish mixing and we’ve got two more dates after that to do recalls. But it’s almost done as it is anyway, so we’re pretty confident it’s going to be absolutely right. If we weren’t confident enough I don’t think we would be here but at the moment if we can do both, it’s perfect for everybody, I suppose. And it’s cool to be out with our friends. We’ve known HIM for years, they’re really, really nice guys and they treat us really well. Their crew is fantastic and they have no ego about them whatsoever. They’re just a cool rock band who’s here for the right reasons.

So you were confident of being able to do both the touring and mixing at the same time.

Well exactly, yeah. Specially having the studio booked in Chicago is going to help a lot. It’s pretty cool the way it’s going at the moment. There are some very intense things happening behind the scenes. I can’t really talk too much about it because it will all be revealed in a interview/documentary kind of thing which will be coming out on the album and we’ll explain it all on that.

You’re a support act for HIM on this tour. Do you think their crowd is already familiar with Anathema in terms of the musical style and everything, or do you have to play a show that’s very different from your headline shows in its overall vibe?

I’m not sure what it’s like in America, but in the UK we’ve played with HIM a number of times and their crowd were great to us. I mean, after all we’re a bit of a rock band ourselves, you know. We’ve been known to experiment, of course, and we’ll continue to do so. But we’ve got some rock songs too. I just think if you’ve got good tunes, you sound good and you play well, you’re going to do OK. Doesn’t matter who you’re playing for. If we were playing in front of a Slipknot audience I’m not sure that would go down too well but with HIM it’s fine.



Obviously over the years you’ve traveled quite a journey of musical styles. Where do you see it going with the next album and what path do you see it taking, moving from ‘Weather Systems’ to the next step?

It’s a very difficult thing to put into words in terms of what your music actually is. It’s becoming more diverse, I guess. The way I see it is, our music has grown from a nucleus outwards and it’s continuing to expand. It’s like its own little universe in a way. It’s just expanding in all directions and I think that’s the way it’s going to be. There are lots of things we want to do in our music that we haven’t done yet, but when we write music we don’t really think about that. It’s just a case of it coming out of us in a certain way where we just don’t have to think about it too much and we just do it naturally. It always changes, so you can be the same writer and the same person but you could write two completely different things on the same day. It all depends on what happens. And then what you choose to do for the whole band and for the whole record, you just choose the best stuff you’ve got, really. You make the best possible of collection of songs that you can do, you call it an album, give it away and then it’s not yours anymore (laughs). It’s everybody else’s, and that’s fine because that’s a part of the process. But at the moment the next album is still ours and we’re holding on to it for dear life, clutching onto it like a newborn baby and being very, very careful with it. When it’s done, it’s easy. We never really stopped creating anyway. Even when we’re in the studio doing an album, we’re still writing stuff. It kind of never stops. So in answer to your question, we don’t know where it’s going. It just happens.

Is this musical progression a reflection of your own musical tastes?

I would say it’s a reflection of us as people. But definitely, our musical tastes are very, very diverse, far more diverse than the music we put out. I listen to plenty of stuff that I would never want Anathema to sound like (laughs), but I guess it’s a reflection of who you are as an individual, how you express yourself and how you grow with your music. Every time you’ve done something it really teaches you something about yourself and how you can do things. You learn all the time about your own music. We never want to repeat ourselves, ever. So that also forces the evolution because if we do a song and it sounds like something we’ve done before, we’ll scrap it. Or if we come up with a song that sounds like it could have been written five years ago, we don’t do it. Everything we do has got to be fresh, now and new.

Finally, aside from this tour and the finishing touches on the album, what plans do you have for the rest of the year?

After this tour I’m going to be home for a couple of months and I’m looking forward to a welcome break from everything. I’ll still be busy behind the scenes of course, with interviews and things like that, but as far as actual touring goes, it’s just a couple of gigs in the summer for European festivals and then we start major touring in the autumn in the UK, then we go to the rest of Europe. Then probably early next year we’ll be back in the US. In the meantime I’m looking forward to getting home, being in my new house with my girlfriend and my cat, my new studio which I just finished, writing some more music and doing something completely different to Anathema. I’m looking forward to having my life back for a little while. I have to take those moments whenever I can because I’m a very busy person and I don’t often get a chance to live my life. So I can’t wait to do that just for a little short time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 15, 2014, 11:33:12 AM
The official Anathema merchandise store has a new t-shirt available for pre-order, with what appears to be the new album cover and name (Distant Satellites) on it! Looks really cool!
(https://www.omerch.eu/shop/Anathema/prodimages/Distant_Satellites_T_Visual.jpg)
https://www.omerch.eu/shop/Anathema/proddetail.php?prod=OMANDistTSB&cat=2919
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 15, 2014, 11:52:33 AM
Is that really the new title and cover? Was that confirmed at some point that I missed? I like it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 15, 2014, 12:25:27 PM
Is that really the new title and cover? Was that confirmed at some point that I missed? I like it!
The band hasn't said anything, but the shirt is from the official merchandise store, so I'm assuming that the only thing "Distant Satellites" can be is the new album title (and I'm guessing the artwork is the cover, as they have a similar Weather Systems shirt). Also, Wikipedia has Distant Satellites listed as the album name.

So, it wasn't officially confirmed (sorry...should have been more clear in my post).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 15, 2014, 01:08:53 PM
Wow that's a neat title. Really looking forward to more news
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on March 17, 2014, 05:12:45 AM
Really? I find it kind of uninspired and/or cheesy tbh. Doesn't matter though, as long as the music is good I'm on board.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 17, 2014, 06:27:59 AM
I like that title and artwork but as Xanthul points out, the really important thing is the music. Really looking forward to what I expect to be album of the year
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on March 17, 2014, 07:54:15 AM
For $12 I don't think it'll be a bad way to spend the night, I'm going to go and check them out.

For that price there's nothing to lose. Anathema last year was probably my best show of the year, and that included Steven Wilson and Gabriel. Such a great live band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 17, 2014, 01:13:24 PM
Really? I find it kind of uninspired and/or cheesy tbh. Doesn't matter though, as long as the music is good I'm on board.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 17, 2014, 03:44:10 PM
hmm, different strokes for different folks I guess. I will say, I prefer the title Weather Systems to Distant Satellites. Not sure how I feel about WHBWH, in comparison, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 17, 2014, 04:16:39 PM
I like the fact that the cover feels Anathema-ish (similar to Universal) but still feels fresh and new. Another bright and blue cover would have felt kinda dull, and hopefully the black cover means a return to a slightly darker sound. I miss old Anathema, and hopefully they can combine the great new stuff with the great old stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 17, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
Distant Satellites fits the description given on how the album sounds. I like it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on March 19, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
Distant Satellites is definitely a great album title, and if that is the cover art I'm not disappointed. It's definitely going to be an interesting album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on March 28, 2014, 07:00:35 AM
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ANATHEMA return in June with 'distant satellites', their brand new studio album.

Due to be released on 9th June via Kscope, 'distant satellites' is the highly anticipated follow up to 2012’s Weather Systems, recorded at Cederberg Studios in Oslo, with producer Christer-André Cederberg.

The beautifully ethereal artwork was created by Korean new media artist Sang Jun Too and based around his Distant Light Installation

The band released a statement on their new album:

Distant satellites is the culmination of everything ANATHEMA been working up to so far in our musical path. It contains almost every conceivable element of the heartbeat of Anathema music that it is possible to have.

There is beauty, intensity, drama, quietude, and extra musical dimensions that the band have previously only hinted at. All built on the song writing chemistry of Daniel, John and Vincent ~ and the haunting voice of Lee Douglas.

Produced and mixed once again by our very own Christer-André Cederberg (Weather Systems, Universal) and with some songs also mixed by the unassailable Steven Wilson, It's a special and unique release for the band.

ANATHEMA hopes the fans get as much joy from listening to and feeling the music as we did in creating it.

 :hefdaddy YES.  :omg:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 28, 2014, 07:07:44 AM
:dangerwillrobinson:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 28, 2014, 07:35:30 AM
Now THAT is a fine piece of cover art!

Let's get a single!!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 28, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Beautiful. Cannot wait for this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 28, 2014, 07:46:34 AM
I want to preorder asap.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 28, 2014, 08:22:36 AM
Pretty underwhelming artwork. As always the band members come off as really pretentious when they talk about their music as well. Hopefully it will be a decent album though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 28, 2014, 08:27:04 AM
It's only really pretentious if the music isn't actually a culmination of everything they've been working up to so far in their musical path and contain almost every conceivable element of the heartbeat of Anathema music that is possible to have.

I have faith that it will  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 28, 2014, 08:28:54 AM
They seem like nice people, but everything they say in press releases just reek of pretentiousness. It's gotten to the point where it actually annoys me, so I try to just ignore whatever they say and just listen to the music. It usually works better that way.  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on March 28, 2014, 08:35:41 AM
Love the cover art!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on March 28, 2014, 08:39:07 AM
Fair enough, Jimmy, fair enough.

I do like the darkness, and simplicity, of the cover art  :azn:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 28, 2014, 08:45:22 AM
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster. If the artwork had any other band name attached to it rather than Anathema (like if it was a totally unknown band), I doubt anyone would think it's good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 28, 2014, 08:51:41 AM
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.

To each his own, but I like it.

If the artwork had any other band name attached to it rather than Anathema (like if it was a totally unknown band), I doubt anyone would think it's good.

I don't agree with this. Sometimes knowing what a band is already like can sway your opinion on their future output. Using DT as an example, based on their previous album artworks at the time, the SC and BCSL album covers were bad in my opinion. But that's because I also had some expectations of what I was hoping for.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on March 28, 2014, 10:36:01 AM
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster. If the artwork had any other band name attached to it rather than Anathema (like if it was a totally unknown band), I doubt anyone would think it's good.
Actually, if that were a black metal cover, or something with a band logo that was spikes and shit, I'd say it'd probably look better. It doesn't look bad at all, but the Font and placement of the band name and album title is kind of odd.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 28, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
I think I would have preferred the artwork from the t-shirt that was posted a little while ago.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on March 28, 2014, 01:10:24 PM
I kinda like the art on the Distant Satellites shirt better, but this is pretty nice. Can't wait!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on March 28, 2014, 03:51:46 PM
Love the artwork! Album should be good :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 28, 2014, 03:54:34 PM
I'm still not crazy about the title, but the cover looks amazing! The last few album covers have been blue, so this is a nice departure.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on March 29, 2014, 07:01:39 AM
It looks like a late 90's atmospheric black metal cover tbh, but I like it too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 29, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
It looks like a late 90's atmospheric black metal cover tbh, but I like it too.
It looks like an Atmospheric Black Metal cover period.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on March 29, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
It looks like a late 90's atmospheric black metal cover tbh, but I like it too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 29, 2014, 10:07:00 AM
Couldn't be a black metal cover, the band name is actually legible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on March 29, 2014, 01:56:29 PM
It reminds me of that Dark newly discovered planet that has red clouds. With the distant satellite gleaming.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on March 29, 2014, 02:28:52 PM
The cover doesn't really do anything for me, but that doesn't matter. Very excited about new music from them! Weather Systems is my favourite ever album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on March 29, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
Reminds me of a mix between Judgement and A Natural Disaster. I like it, don't see what all the fuss is about. It's only a cover anyway.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on March 29, 2014, 05:31:17 PM
Ariich, nice Rassilon avatar
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on March 29, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
They mentioned Steven Wilson mixing some of the songs. I wonder if there'll be a version that has a 5.1 mix of it done by SW.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 30, 2014, 12:13:09 AM
In the interview Seneca posted in this thread Vinnie said there'll be a making-of documentary, so maybe the DVD will include a 5.1 mix as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on March 30, 2014, 02:48:03 AM
Ariich, nice Rassilon avatar
:tup

Timothy Dalton is awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 08, 2014, 10:12:22 AM
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November 8 - ooh yeah! :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on April 08, 2014, 10:25:11 AM
KAVANAGH PLS COME 2 ISTANBUL
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Quick, someone bring me a track list and single!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on April 08, 2014, 01:12:31 PM
Wikipedia has a track list up, but the only other places I can find it are on a few different blogs, so I'm not sure if it's actually real.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on April 08, 2014, 01:41:34 PM
Wikipedia has a track list up, but the only other places I can find it are on a few different blogs, so I'm not sure if it's actually real.

Yeah, I saw that too. But no confirmation by the band that I've seen.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on April 08, 2014, 01:44:32 PM
Wikipedia has a track list up, but the only other places I can find it are on a few different blogs, so I'm not sure if it's actually real.

Yeah, I saw that too. But no confirmation by the band that I've seen.
We'll probably find out soon enough once the pre-orders on Burning Shed are open.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on April 08, 2014, 03:30:18 PM
Wtf, no shows in Great Britain? The only UK date is Belfast!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 08, 2014, 03:59:19 PM
These news were awesome. Back in 2009 I was going to see the band, but I wasn't let into the concert venue due to the 18 year old limit, and this was 2 weeks before my 18th birthday. I took a chance and hoped for the best, sadly it didn't work. When Anathema went out for the WS-tour, they completely ignored my city and I felt like maybe I had missed my only chance of seeing them. But now finally they announced a gig here, so November can't come soon enough. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on April 08, 2014, 05:23:00 PM
Wtf, no shows in Great Britain? The only UK date is Belfast!
Thought that myself. Someone asked on their FB page and they replied with:
"Keep an eye out on our page for further announcements :) "

Looks like plenty of time for them to fit some GB dates in either before or after Belfast and Dublin. Fingers crossed they come up to Scotland  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2014, 05:25:00 PM
Wow, that must've been a tremendously sad moment for you in 2009  :(

As for the wikipedia track list…

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The Lost Song part 1 (5'53)
The Lost Song part 2 (5'47)
Dusk (Dark Is Descending) (5'59)
Ariel (6'28)
The Lost Song part 3 (5'21)
Anathema (6'40)
You're Not Alone (3'26)
Firelight (2'42)
Distant Satellites (8'17)
Take Shelter (6'07)

Don't know if it's legit, but if it is… A self titled song and 3 part 'lost' song both have me very excited  :omg:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 08, 2014, 05:28:28 PM
Well they have done that before (Eternity was three parts), so it is possible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
I just wonder what kind of a song could possibly warrant the title Anthema? I hope it's not doomed to be underwhelming as a result.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 08, 2014, 10:31:15 PM
Didn't Danny mention something about an a cappella song featuring all the current and former members of Anathema? That might be the self-titled song...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on April 09, 2014, 10:35:45 AM
Didn't Danny mention something about an a cappella song featuring all the current and former members of Anathema? That might be the self-titled song...
:eek
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
He did mention something like that a while back. It could either be interesting, or a complete train wreck.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 10, 2014, 04:14:12 AM
Looks like the tracklist is legit: https://www.omerch.eu/shop/Anathema/proddetail.php?prod=omerch_anat_dsDELUXE
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Track Listing
01. THE LOST SONG part 1
02. THE LOST SONG part 2
03. DUSK (dark is descending)
04. ARIEL
05. THE LOST SONG part 3
06. ANATHEMA
07. YOU'RE NOT ALONE
08. FIRELIGHT [instrumental]
10. TAKE SHELTER
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on April 10, 2014, 08:52:11 AM
Looks like I'm gonna settle with the CD/DVD digibook edition. I would go for the deluxe edition, but IDK if it warrants a $40 difference in price if the only bonus is a making of DVD an extra 20 pages in the booklet and bigger and better packaging.

Edit: We have a 40 second teaser for The Lost Song Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtkvjbvPk8w
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 10, 2014, 09:01:13 AM
Superb! Can't wait to hear more
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 10, 2014, 09:38:46 AM
The sample sounds neat, but it's hard to say anything else about such a short clip.

I'll just buy the standard edition because I have no use for the 5.1 mix (sorry Mr. Wilson!). It sucks that the only way to get the documentary is to buy the deluxe edition :tdwn
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on April 10, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
That clip sounds to me like they'll deliver exactly what I'm expecting  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on April 10, 2014, 11:00:21 AM
While it sounded great, it still feels like it's part of WHBWH or that other one after it which I can't seem to recall right now. I am ready for some darker Anathema again, please.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 10, 2014, 11:06:50 AM
I really hope Anathema makes another album like Judgement. It's still probably their best imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 10, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
I think I agree on Judgement maybe being their best, but I'd rather see them branch out in a different direction. Their talk about more electronic influences is interesting. This one certainly doesn't have that feel though. Wait and see!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on April 10, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
As much as I enjoy this band, $77.15 for the 3-disc Deluxe Edition with the t-shirt is a BIT much.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on April 10, 2014, 12:43:42 PM
Sample sounds really good. Hope they release a full track soon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on April 10, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
Just another example of record label's trying to exploit fans for all they can.
Making the version that has everything on it, the most expensive and even then the price is shocking.
No I don't have to buy it, yes I can afford it, but no I am not paying $70/$90 for the 3 disc set with shirt.

Listening to the sample sounds like it could have been taken from the last 2 albums, I hope there is something different and not
another s=version of those 2.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 10, 2014, 02:08:02 PM
The Omega Order is guaranteed to carry their own packages for way less money, it just usually takes a couple weeks so Burning Shed can have first crack. be patient  :yarr
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on April 10, 2014, 03:33:17 PM

Listening to the sample sounds like it could have been taken from the last 2 albums, I hope there is something different and not
another s=version of those 2.

That was the impression I got from the clip as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on April 10, 2014, 03:54:12 PM
I thought WHBWH showcased a very beautiful musical direction for the band. When they elaborated on that more on WS, the results were only partly satisfying. I got the feel that they were playing it a bit too safe. This sample sounds pretty much exactly like those records, but I have to say it did sound very good. I'm curious how this is going to play out.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on April 12, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
Loved that sample. I want this album now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on April 12, 2014, 06:20:50 PM
Pre-ordered my cd and t-shirt bundle on Friday.  Can't wait for this album.  Weather Systems is one of my favorite albums of all-time.  So beautiful and emotionally powerful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on April 25, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
First review of the new album : https://blog.insidethepain.com/2014/04/14/anathema-distant-satellites-review/

https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.insidethepain.com%2F2014%2F04%2F14%2Fanathema-distant-satellites-review%2F&edit-text=
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 25, 2014, 08:47:18 PM
Trying to make sense of the translation is kind of a pain, but it was a joy to read (kind of) anyways! Some interesting points:

Quote
keep the high level of writing Weather Systems, add more piano, majestic orchestrations (in the manner of those of Falling Deeper) and enchanting melodies, sprinkle all of a fine dose of post-rock

Quote
continues where stopped offering music still planing and exhilarating, but also brighter and positive than in the past
  (not sure I believe that bit)

Also really excited about the Danny Cavanagh solo (Are You There? has always been one of my favorites) and the apparently darker "Dusk (darkness is descending)" I'm really looking forward a single, hopefully soon :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 25, 2014, 10:44:56 PM
The bit about the album being more homogenous than Weather Systems makes me worried, because WS was kind of samey to my ears already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 25, 2014, 10:53:50 PM
Yeh… but if it's samey of the same quality as WS, I'm not going to be too upset.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on April 26, 2014, 03:48:10 AM
The bit about the album being more homogenous than Weather Systems makes me worried, because WS was kind of samey to my ears already.
Keep in mind that may not be a good translation. In context, it may mean "consistent". The fact that the review gave 9/10 would seem to support that.

My favourite translated line: "The orgy of violins final part of background rhythm of electro inspiration completing all to great effect"

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 26, 2014, 06:05:31 AM
So today I bought tickets to see them in November. Now I can finally cross them off my "need to see live before I die" list. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on April 26, 2014, 07:07:15 AM
So today I bought tickets to see them in November. Now I can finally cross them off my "need to see live before I die" list. :)

 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on April 26, 2014, 04:41:09 PM
They're coming to Istanbul AGAIN. And this time...oh. AGE LIMIT AGAIN. BUT NOPE. I actually know the owner of the freaking venue. He said he could get me in as "staff" with VIP tickets. Woah.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on April 26, 2014, 04:55:49 PM
I don't want to get the full deluxe version but that making of dvd is very tempting. Would love to have a 3 disc version without the big book
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 26, 2014, 11:41:30 PM
They're coming to Istanbul AGAIN. And this time...oh. AGE LIMIT AGAIN. BUT NOPE. I actually know the owner of the freaking venue. He said he could get me in as "staff" with VIP tickets. Woah.
Lucky you... :eek
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on April 27, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
Multiple sources are saying "Anathema" is the best track on the album and one of the best they've ever done. Really can't wait to hear it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on April 28, 2014, 03:43:43 AM
If it's as good as WS,it could be in my top 15 albums of all time.  :o
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on April 29, 2014, 05:44:56 AM
New review (in french).
https://www.guitariste.com/chroniques/anathema--distant-satellites,3324,1.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 29, 2014, 06:05:52 AM
Someone needs to teach the French how to share
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 29, 2014, 08:14:24 AM
Got a ticket to my first Anathema show! :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on April 29, 2014, 08:14:46 AM
https://translate.google.ca/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.guitariste.com%2Fchroniques%2Fanathema--distant-satellites%2C3324%2C1.html&edit-text=
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 29, 2014, 10:35:25 AM
Evidently another very positive review!

I'm interested to hear the Sigur Ros and Ulver influences that he mentions
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on April 29, 2014, 03:17:21 PM
Oh man,this could be my AOTY!  :biggrin:


Sun Kil Moon's Benji is still the best singer/songwriter album from the past 15 years.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on April 29, 2014, 03:46:02 PM
Sun Kil Moon's Benji is still the best singer/songwriter album from the past 15 years.

No it's not, but it's one of the better albums of 2014 for sure.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on April 30, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
Another "french" review : https://www.clairetobscur.com/article-anathema-distant-satellites-123490117.html

https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https://www.clairetobscur.com/article-anathema-distant-satellites-123490117.html&usg=ALkJrhj15vKHyDHWTwVaHHdCUOydH-fEvw
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 30, 2014, 07:33:44 PM
That's some seriously high praise. I love the talk of 'unfathomable darkness'. I wonder when we might get a single
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on May 01, 2014, 07:46:59 AM
Sun Kil Moon's Benji is still the best singer/songwriter album from the past 15 years.

No it's not, but it's one of the better albums of 2014 for sure.  :tup
Did Elliott Smith have an album in the past 15 years? Also,what is your AOTY so far?  :biggrin:

Oh and I've been spinning WHBWH recently. A Simple Mistake blows me away every single time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 01, 2014, 08:19:30 AM
Not quite sure about my AOTY so far, probably the new Cloud Nothings. There's a handful (5 or maybe 6) albums I hold slightly higher than the rest, of 2014 so far.  :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 02, 2014, 01:53:09 PM
New single is out there.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 02, 2014, 02:51:48 PM
I'm listening to it - seems legit. And it's awesome, the whole song goes in a constant crescendo. Reminds me to the last 2 albums, but darker. Great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on May 02, 2014, 02:55:39 PM
Excellent song. If the rest of this album is like this I'll probably end up liking it as much as Weather Systems.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 02, 2014, 03:05:58 PM
fuck, people. a link?

or maybe just the name?  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 02, 2014, 03:09:03 PM

or maybe just the name?  :lol

Yeah seriously. My imagination can only go so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 02, 2014, 03:11:16 PM

or maybe just the name?  :lol

Yeah seriously. My imagination can only go so far.

*snip*
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 02, 2014, 03:26:44 PM

or maybe just the name?  :lol

Yeah seriously. My imagination can only go so far.

After searching for all the track names, I assume this is it *snip*

ETA: Actually, I'm not quite sure what the rule is on non-DT music-related leaks on the forums, so I won't link it. The new song is The Lost Song Part III, though.
I think that as long as we don't post the link, we can discuss the leak.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 02, 2014, 03:39:41 PM
that's my impression as well. Anyways, the song sounds promising, but I need to listen more
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 02, 2014, 04:11:11 PM
I definitely see *snip* being my favorite track on the new album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 02, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
I don't know about favorite, but it certainly is growing  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on May 02, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
fuck, people. a link?

or maybe just the name?  :lol
Absolutely no links to leaks, or hints at where to find them. You can discuss the music itself though, if you've heard it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 02, 2014, 04:25:19 PM
Yeah, my bad. I realized that pretty quickly once I actually found it for myself. I just got overexcited in the heat of the moment.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 02, 2014, 05:04:46 PM
Wasn't all that crazy about it on the first listen but it grew on me after several listens. I do hope that it's not representative of the whole album though, as it's a bit too similar to Weather Systems (I love that album, but I'm expecting something a bit different on this one).

Usually the first single released from albums ends up being one of weaker tracks for me. The Beginning and the End was released as the first single for Weather Systems, and it's one of my least favorites from the album, even though I do enjoy it. So I'm not too worried about being disappointed by this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on May 02, 2014, 05:33:50 PM
I like the mood the music gives off. Good song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 02, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
Pretty underwhelming tbh. Hopefully the rest of the album won't be.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on May 02, 2014, 09:17:09 PM
haha I literally could've bet money on what your post would say Jimmy. going into the album with a disappointment mindset before this probably didn't help!

fantastic song. very atmospheric as usual, and I really love the vocals.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 02, 2014, 11:03:35 PM
I usually avoid leaks, but this is just one song so what the heck...

I like it and I think it's a bit different from Weather Systems because of the smaller role of guitar - on WS there were acoustic arpeggios in almost every song. The rhythm is pretty proggy and I couldn't figure out the time signature yet :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on May 03, 2014, 02:15:47 AM
I rather like it :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 03, 2014, 02:17:04 AM
haha I literally could've bet money on what your post would say Jimmy. going into the album with a disappointment mindset before this probably didn't help!

fantastic song. very atmospheric as usual, and I really love the vocals.

Actually I would say my mindset for this album is more positive than negative. If they had said "We're making another WHBWH/WS light album" I would have jumped off a bridge, but the whole "this album is darker" is actually really appealing to me. I have a feeling the album will be pretty good, I just found this first sample slightly underwhelming. But that's after one listen mind you. When I get my hands on the album and get repeated listens, it might be very different.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 04, 2014, 01:16:12 PM
It's a grower, definitely. I sounds a bit weird alone, but I think it will fit better in the album context.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 04, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
It's a grower, definitely. I sounds a bit weird alone, but I think it will fit better in the album context.
Yes, especially after hearing the first two parts.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 04, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Just found this video of the title track being played acoustically by Danny and Vincent. It's professionally shot and appears official, so I'm assuming it's okay to post it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKaBwbqEcCA
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 04, 2014, 02:23:34 PM
And an interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33rXZ74znuw

Probably the most interesting thing here is that the last 4 songs, which are more electronic, are older songs, while the first 6 are newly written.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 04, 2014, 04:04:41 PM
Very cool! Interesting to hear that a few of the tracks are such old songs (going back 17 years  :omg:). Also, love love LOVE the sound of the new song performed acoustically like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 06, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
Samples are here!
https://www.amazon.com/Distant-Satellites-Anathema/dp/B00K5RVTG2/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1399423011&sr=1-2-catcorr&keywords=anathema+distant+satellites

I was a bit hesitant to listen to these as I was pretty unimpressed with the samples from Weather Systems (but I ended up loving the album). However, I was pretty impressed by these! Seems like there's quite a bit of piano here, which is certainly not a bad thing! Also, it appears that there is no a cappella track, as previously reported.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 06, 2014, 11:07:13 PM
I COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED RIGHT NOW. I'll second you on the prevalence of piano not being a bad thing. They all sound superb, but especially The Lost Song Part I, The Lost Song Part II, Dusk (Darkness is Descending), Ariel, Anathema, Distant Satellites, and Take Shelter.

And yes, Jimmy, I do realize that's most of the album and that they're only 30 second clips. I realize that I shouldn't be getting my hopes up! But the electronic influences at the end of the album are apparent, and I like what I hear! Please, Jimmy, please join us in blind optimism! :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 06, 2014, 11:39:51 PM
This sounds pretty interesting. Definitely more dark and empty-sounding than the previous two albums. Judging from those samples, I think the title "Distant Satellites" fits the mood of the music perfectly.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on May 06, 2014, 11:58:25 PM
The samples are amazing. This album can't come soon enough!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 07, 2014, 09:14:32 AM
AMAZING!. I think I'll really enjoy this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on May 07, 2014, 12:43:50 PM
The electronics are done really well I think. Samples sound very interesting.. there's a bit of Weather Systems in there but some tracks are very different to that as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 07, 2014, 12:56:10 PM
Kind of just reiterating what Buddyhunter said, but from the sound of it this album is going to be a lot more spacious, if that makes sense. I expect that will be the most noticeable difference compared to WHBWH and WS, given their more full-sounding production. Coupled with the slightly darker tone, I'm psyched for this album. At the same time, I don't expect it to be as dark lyrically as old Anathema, which is also nice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 07, 2014, 01:00:50 PM
This is what someone on last.fm, who presumably has a promo copy of the album, said about the samples:

"Don't judge the songs on these short samples. They're basically all from the first quarter of the songs that need time to really develop and take off towards the middle/end. Especially the title track gets much harder than the sample might let expect you."

Interesting comment that makes me even more excited for the album!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 08, 2014, 11:29:06 AM
Longer, one minute samples here:
https://de.7digital.com/artist/anathema/release/distant-satellites
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 08, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
WOW!!!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 08, 2014, 12:38:18 PM
Well some of those samples make me want to have this album right now. Not sure about the electronic bits though, I need to listen to the whole songs before judging.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 08, 2014, 01:33:28 PM
Listened to The Samples and I'm loving the vibes they're giving me. I think this may well surpass WS for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on May 08, 2014, 02:09:33 PM
Those 1 minute samples are way better quality as well, good find :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 08, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
The only track that isn't making a very good impression in the samples, for me, is You're Not Alone.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 08, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
The only track that isn't making a very good impression in the samples, for me, is You're Not Alone.

That one really intrigued me. I'd like to hear where it'll go and how it begins
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 08, 2014, 06:56:28 PM
The only track that isn't making a very good impression in the samples, for me, is You're Not Alone.
Same.

I'm most excited about Ariel, Dusk (Dark is Descending), Distant Satellites, and Take Shelter.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 08, 2014, 07:02:25 PM
I am interested in seeing where the last 30 seconds of You're Not Alone goes, but the first part definitely feels a touch too repetitive.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 08, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
Not passing judgement on the album but the samples did not impress and definitely sounded very similar to the sound of the last two albums. Even the instruments sound similar if not the same.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PROGdrummer on May 08, 2014, 10:14:32 PM
The Lost Song Parts 1 and 3 sound like they suck. The rest of the album sounds pretty cool though.

Its also pretty interesting that there is a self-titled song on this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on May 09, 2014, 02:16:15 PM
I just the promo single for The Lost Song Part 3, it is so god damn beautiful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 09, 2014, 03:46:46 PM
The Lost Song Parts 1 and 3 sound like they suck.
I'm curious to know what makes you think that. I could maybe understand you saying that they all suck, but picking those two out... They don't sound significantly different than the rest of the album, at least not to my ears, so I'm a little puzzled.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on May 12, 2014, 03:30:19 AM
The 7digital samples don't play anymore :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 14, 2014, 03:27:47 PM
New interview with Vincent : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ7TApO7zrk
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 14, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
Thanks for sharing! I'd love to see Anathema perform in a church.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 15, 2014, 02:08:02 PM
New interview with Daniel : https://www.thisisnotascene.com/2014/daniel-cavanagh-of-anathema-talks-to-thisisnotascene/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=daniel-cavanagh-of-anathema-talks-to-thisisnotascene
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on May 15, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
samples are back up: https://ca.7digital.com/artist/anathema/release/distant-satellites-1 (https://ca.7digital.com/artist/anathema/release/distant-satellites-1)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 15, 2014, 11:00:28 PM
Just listening to the clip for Ariel got me thinking. Lee Douglas has a great voice, but I've always felt that she goes a bit overboard on the vibrato. I think it works well with the kind of music Anathema puts out, for the most part, but it still makes me chuckle a little at times.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 15, 2014, 11:04:09 PM
Just listening to the clip for Ariel got me thinking. Lee Douglas has a great voice, but I've always felt that she goes a bit overboard on the vibrato. I think it works well with the kind of music Anathema puts out, for the most part, but it still makes me chuckle a little at times.
I agree. The only time her vibrato has really bothered though me is on Untouchable Part Two from Universal, where she really went overboard.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 15, 2014, 11:36:54 PM
Just listening to the clip for Ariel got me thinking. Lee Douglas has a great voice, but I've always felt that she goes a bit overboard on the vibrato. I think it works well with the kind of music Anathema puts out, for the most part, but it still makes me chuckle a little at times.
I agree. The only time her vibrato has really bothered though me is on Untouchable Part Two from Universal, where she really went overboard.

I agree. It sounds way overboard on that song. Wouldve been awesome if she didn't go overboat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on May 16, 2014, 12:43:26 AM
In the studio I think her voice is perfect for Anathema. Live, I agree she puts a little too much vibrato, but only slightly.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on May 16, 2014, 04:06:02 AM
I'd never noticed it on studio albums, or when I saw them live - but it was definitely a little offputting on Universal. She still sounds amazing though  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 16, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
New review : https://powermetal.de/review/review-Anathema/Distant_Satellites,24199.html

https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=https://powermetal.de/review/review-Anathema/Distant_Satellites,24199.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Danathema%2Bdistant%2Bsatellites%26start%3D10%26sa%3DN%26es_sm%3D93%26biw%3D1536%26bih%3D784%26tbs%3Dqdr:d
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 17, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
New review:
https://www.prog-sphere.com/reviews/distant-satellites-by-anathema/

Interesting how he said that this album is similar to WS, as several others who have heard it said that it's a progression from WHBWH and WS. Hopefully, he's just referring to the lyrics and general optimistic mood of the last two albums instead of the songwriting, as I would prefer them to mix up the music a bit while retaining their recent optimistic, upbeat attitude.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 17, 2014, 10:15:08 PM
The review has me as excited as ever, thanks for sharing, but a couple things….

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the title track to Distant Satellites. This amazing song (as well as the closer Take Shelter) finally accomplish what We’re Here Because We’re Here” and Weather Systems fell short of: a satisfying climactic finish to the album.
If Internal Landscapes isn't a satisfying and climactic finish to an album, then I don't know what is. In fact, I'd say it is the most satisfying and most climactic song Anathema has ever released.

And a whole lot of 'hell no' from me, in regards to the reviewer's take on the recent direction Anathema has taken with their lyrics. Conor Flynes can take his complaints about "pseudo-spiritual love and peace" and shove them straight back up his goddamned, lousy, anal cunt of a mouth.   :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on May 17, 2014, 10:21:59 PM
^I agree with what you said about Internal Landscapes. It's a pretty simple song but so powerful, and I couldn't think of a better way to end the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 18, 2014, 03:52:59 AM
I really like Internal Landscapes, but I would not call it climactic. It's a very mellow and peaceful outro to the album, kinda fading out into the distance. I would say Hindsight is one of their most climactic songs though, that song really builds up to an epic climax. Internal Landscape is a wonderful song, but not really a climactic song. It's a beautiful song that fades out the album though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 18, 2014, 11:55:10 AM
You kidding me? If the part where the electric guitars kick in up to the final vocal line isn't climactic, I don't know what is.
I'd say Internal Landscapes easily beats Hindsight, both in quality and as a climax to the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 18, 2014, 04:09:40 PM
I disagree. I would say Hindsight is one of their best songs, Internal Landscapes is really good, but not on the same level.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 18, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
I would consider Internal landscapes to be one of the most beautiful, emotionally powerful songs I've ever heard and it has brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Its one of my top favorite songs in this world.

I can't say the same about Hindsight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 18, 2014, 06:24:59 PM
I would consider Internal landscapes to be one of the most beautiful, emotionally powerful songs I've ever heard and it has brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Its one of my top favorite songs in this world.

I can't say the same about Hindsight.

Agreed on all points. Hindsight is great too, though. Even better, on certain occasions. 3 weeks left! I'm surprised the band still hasn't released an official single.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on May 19, 2014, 11:49:49 AM
I would consider Internal landscapes to be one of the most beautiful, emotionally powerful songs I've ever heard and it has brought me to tears on numerous occasions. Its one of my top favorite songs in this world.

I feel the same.  Very powerful tune.   
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: emtee on May 19, 2014, 12:36:32 PM
Yeah there are times when I just can't listen to that song. Just too much. It's truly beautiful and very moving.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 19, 2014, 03:11:49 PM
That song is the definition of ethereal. Its angelic, the guys experience really ends the album nicely.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 20, 2014, 06:29:04 AM
First single released, per Facebook.

Lost Song Pt. 3

https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 20, 2014, 07:03:59 AM
First single released, per Facebook.

Lost Song Pt. 3

https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)

Wish I could say that I'm enjoying it more than I am. Still a whole album to listen to though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 20, 2014, 07:08:59 AM
First single released, per Facebook.

Lost Song Pt. 3

https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)

 :heart :heart :heart. This band fills me with Joy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 20, 2014, 08:09:28 AM
First single released, per Facebook.

Lost Song Pt. 3

https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA (https://youtu.be/q2bwKAPgsyA)

Wish I could say that I'm enjoying it more than I am. Still a whole album to listen to though.

I'm thinking that this is the kind of track that sounds better within the flow of the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nikatapi on May 21, 2014, 08:56:54 AM
So if anyone is interested, i had an interview with Vincent from Anathema, we talked about the new album and much more stuff, you can read it here: noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh (https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 21, 2014, 09:53:20 AM
Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading it! It's exciting to see how excited they are about the evolution of their live shows. My first was probably the best show of my life (albeit short), and I'd love to have another go, or 15
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 21, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
I can't stand the guys in interviews, but I hope for a good album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 21, 2014, 12:47:32 PM
The review has me as excited as ever, thanks for sharing, but a couple things….

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the title track to Distant Satellites. This amazing song (as well as the closer Take Shelter) finally accomplish what We’re Here Because We’re Here” and Weather Systems fell short of: a satisfying climactic finish to the album.
If Internal Landscapes isn't a satisfying and climactic finish to an album, then I don't know what is. In fact, I'd say it is the most satisfying and most climactic song Anathema has ever released.

And a whole lot of 'hell no' from me, in regards to the reviewer's take on the recent direction Anathema has taken with their lyrics. Conor Flynes can take his complaints about "pseudo-spiritual love and peace" and shove them straight back up his goddamned, lousy, anal cunt of a mouth.   :angel:
take it easy, Conor is a friend of mine :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 21, 2014, 01:55:20 PM
Hahahh oh shit, really? I was only being absurdly critical for the sake of irony. At the same time, I do strongly disagree with his sentiment on the recent lyrics.  :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 22, 2014, 12:52:58 PM
Great interview with Vincent: https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh

Although I've liked the newer albums, it's cool to hear that Distant Satellites is darker, because that's the kind of music I love the most. The bit about playing some of the early stuff live sounds really promising too :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nikatapi on May 22, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
Great interview with Vincent: https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh

Although I've liked the newer albums, it's cool to hear that Distant Satellites is darker, because that's the kind of music I love the most. The bit about playing some of the early stuff live sounds really promising too :caffeine:

Just don't expect darker in the vein of Alternative 4 or something like that, it's definitely less happy sounding than Weather Systems.
It's a cool album, a little tiring at times, with some great songs (Anathema and Dusk (Dark Is Descending) especially) and some interesting experimentation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2014, 04:20:21 PM
From what they are saying it sounds like the album is experimental by trying many different things. Because of that I doubt it will be a home run, but hopefully a lot of those ideas and experiments work out, and they have a good foundation for where to go next.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on May 23, 2014, 12:16:29 AM
Great interview with Vincent: https://noisefull.com/interviews/anathema-vincent-cavanagh

Although I've liked the newer albums, it's cool to hear that Distant Satellites is darker, because that's the kind of music I love the most. The bit about playing some of the early stuff live sounds really promising too :caffeine:

Just don't expect darker in the vein of Alternative 4 or something like that, it's definitely less happy sounding than Weather Systems.
It's a cool album, a little tiring at times, with some great songs (Anathema and Dusk (Dark Is Descending) especially) and some interesting experimentation.
Yeah, I'm not expecting an Alternative 5, but a little bit of darkness is never a bad thing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on May 23, 2014, 02:54:55 AM
Hahahh oh shit, really? I was only being absurdly critical for the sake of irony. At the same time, I do strongly disagree with his sentiment on the recent lyrics.  :angel:
Eh no biggie he'd probably laugh :lol

I was really revving myself up for some radically different stuff, based on what they said about all the electronic and pop influences a few months ago :( every Anathema is good Anathema, but still.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 23, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
Making of the new album : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsgFPDZKU3M
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 24, 2014, 09:02:08 AM
nice video. Only a couple more weeks till release  :corn

Anyone else notice the similarities between Natural Disaster and what we know about Distant Satellites? Same number of tracks, red cover art, electronic elements, self-titled songs, reportedly darker than WHBWH and WS…

I am, admittedly, a little lotta bored right now, and perhaps I'm clutching at straws here, but I thought those were a couple interesting parallels. I can't imagine there's any way in hell that they are intentional, but food for thought nonetheless.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 29, 2014, 08:57:21 AM
New reviews :

https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45133

https://progreport.com/anathema-distant-satellites-cd-review/

https://progulator.com/reviews/anathema-distant-satellites/

https://www.globaldomination.se/reviews/anathema-distant-satellites

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 29, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
Fantastic- I have yet to see a single negative review!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on May 29, 2014, 10:54:15 AM
That's because I haven't gotten my hands on the album, yet :).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 29, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
Early reviews doesn't say much though. I guess they can be nice if you want the album spoiled and know song for song how they sound, but in terms of the actual rating, early reviews are almost always positive IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 29, 2014, 11:13:45 AM
That's because I haven't gotten my hands on the album, yet :).

:whatisthisidonteven:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on May 29, 2014, 11:27:50 AM
Where can I get the 3 disc deluxe edition in the US without it being $65 (I AM LOOKING AT YOU, AMAZON.COM)?


Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 29, 2014, 03:03:44 PM
New interview : https://prog.teamrock.com/news/2014-05-29/anathema-discuss-their-distant-destination
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 29, 2014, 11:14:45 PM
I liked the song a lot. Not masterpiece-level a'la most songs from Weather Systems, but still nice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 01, 2014, 08:51:33 AM
Ariel is a gorgeous song!  :heart

You're Not Alone is also fantastic. I'm loving the electronica influence  :D

ETA: Anathema might just be the most emotional song Anathema has ever created   :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 01, 2014, 09:37:10 AM
The floodgates have opened, let the fanboyism begin!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 01, 2014, 09:48:37 AM
Sometimes I wish there was an ignore option for individual posters in individual threads. I enjoy reading your thoughts on other topics, I really do, but you're always such a buzzkill in here!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 01, 2014, 09:53:02 AM
I'm glad you're enjoying the album.  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 01, 2014, 10:07:04 AM
And I hope you enjoy it too!

I guess my issue is that fanboyism implies excessive adulation and verging-on-psychotic admiration, typically paired with unrealistic expectations. While I certainly seem to have unrealistic expectations sometimes, that's because they haven't put out anything that's disappointed me yet- and so far it doesn't appear that this one will either. I guess I'm just going to learn my lesson the hard way, eventually, when they do disappoint. As for excessive adulation, I'd say there's nothing too excessive about it. I legitimately love this music, and that's really exciting for me. However, I do also recognize that these guys are only human- just like me. They're normal guys who happen to be really good at their jobs, and I don't revere them as people for that (not consistent with my understanding of fanboyism). I do, however, put this music on a pedestal above nearly all other music. And I do so quite frequently and, admittedly, overzealously.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on June 01, 2014, 10:29:20 AM
And I hope you enjoy it too!

I guess my issue is that fanboyism implies excessive adulation and verging-on-psychotic admiration, typically paired with unrealistic expectations. While I certainly seem to have unrealistic expectations sometimes, that's because they haven't put out anything that's disappointed me yet- and so far it doesn't appear that this one will either. I guess I'm just going to learn my lesson the hard way, eventually, when they do disappoint. As for excessive adulation, I'd say there's nothing too excessive about it. I legitimately love this music, and that's really exciting for me. However, I do also recognize that these guys are only human- just like me. They're normal guys who happen to be really good at their jobs, and I don't revere them as people for that (not consistent with my understanding of fanboyism). I do, however, put this music on a pedestal above nearly all other music. And I do so quite frequently and, admittedly, overzealously.  :smiley:
Pfft, you've just described 90% of the posters in 90% of the music threads here. ;)

I'l admit to being a bit hyper-critical of the sometimes overzealous optimism of some threads, but honestly, the Anathema thread is pretty tame comparatively. It's no Haken or Devin Townsend thread that's for sure.

Only 9 days until this is released. Hopefully my preorder will ship soon!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on June 01, 2014, 12:22:41 PM
I got my promo copy a few days ago and I have to say that Ariel is my favorite track on the album. Everything about it is just perfect. :heart

I really like Anathema and the title track as well.

I think the album could have done without You're Not Alone though. The guitar work is pretty cool on that track but it just doesn't seem like it fits (plus it's a bit too repetitive).

Overall, it's a great album if a bit weaker than the previous two.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on June 01, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
Just got a promo sent to my inbox this morning. and I'm not even done with the first song and I already have heavy eyes.

Damn you Anathema, you did it again!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 01, 2014, 03:05:39 PM
I'm listening to it. The first song is really amazing, haven't heard all the album but and I'm really liking this. The Lost song pt1, Anathema and Distant Satellites are  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on June 01, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
After the song Anathema, expect a gigantic left turn style wise.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 01, 2014, 03:57:49 PM
So here are my (mostly positive) thoughts after several listens.

The first four tracks are incredible, even if they remind me of WS/WHBWH but a bit darker. I was hoping that they'd move away from that sound, as much as I love those albums, but the songs are so good that I don't really care. Ariel is a beautiful song and is probably my favorite at the moment.

The Lost Song, Part 3 is kind of a dip in quality. I listened to it a lot since it leaked (and grew to love it) so I may have gotten burned out by it, but in the context of the album it doesn't do much for me and sounds like an outtake/b-side. The next track, Anathema, is really good though and the solo is amazing. I don't think it's their best song like some fans and band members have claimed, but it's great nonetheless.

You're Not Alone is easily my least favorite. The electronica aspects are interesting and I'm happy to see them trying new things, but I don't really care for this song. The repetitive vocals are annoying it doesn't fit in with the rest of the album.

Firelight a pleasant transition. Sounds out of place coming after You're Not Alone, but I like how it flows into Distant Satellites, which is a fantastic song where the electronics work perfectly. One of my favorites so far.

Take Shelter is a great song which uses the electronics well, but it just doesn't strike me as a good closing track. I'm thinking that Anathema may have been a better choice as a closer. Regardless, it's a fantastic song and the melodies/Vincent's vocals in the beginning are wonderful.


Even though I like almost all of the songs, the flow (especially on the second half) and balance of the album seems off -- all the electronic songs are towards the end of the album and Lee Douglas is very prominent on the first half of the album but not on the second half. While my first impression was mostly positive, the album doesn't feel anywhere near as cohesive as the last two. It almost sounds like they started writing an album in the vein of WS and WHBWH and decided, halfway through, to change the band's musical direction. Maybe incorporating the electronica influence throughout the album instead of putting those songs on the end would have made the album feel more cohesive. But despite all this, I'm very happy with this album. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 01, 2014, 10:44:58 PM
This album is fantastic. Everything, as usual, is gorgeous, but the overall darker feeling is just incredible.

Lovely, just lovely.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 02, 2014, 06:23:10 AM
After a day of listening to nothing else, I have a few thoughts...

The first couple tracks have not blown me away yet. I enjoy them a lot, but I think there's still a lot of space for them to grow. In other words- not immediately astounding to me the way Thin Air and Untouchable were, but I'm still very optimistic about their potential.

Dusk (Darkness is Descending) is an interesting one, as I'm not super excited by the first half but love the second half. In fact, those last couple minutes are possibly my favorite from the entire album. It's interesting, too, that the song has its initial build up then comes back down again at the half point mark, only to build yet again. I know Anathema has been criticized for using somewhat repetitive and formulaic song structures on the past couple albums, and I think this was kind of a nice break from that with it's quieter middle section. Still, I'm hoping to start enjoying the first half more as well.

Ariel was an early favorite, and it still is. I like how Lee, Vincent, and Danny all offer vocals, but all in very distinct parts. This is especially true on the outro, when Danny comes in to sing the final lines. Really beautiful song.

Lost Song Part 3 is as good as it has ever been, and that's pretty darn good. Still, I'm not sure why they decided to split it up the way they did, rather than using it as the third track. It's also a little bit of a let down, I think, coming directly after Ariel, but that's what you get for putting one of the strongest tracks in the front half of the album.

Anathema is another beauty, and it definitely seems like one of the more emotional songs on the album. Listening to the lyrics, it makes sense that the song should be self titled. I like everything about this song a lot, and I look forward to many more listens.

The transition from Anathema to You're Not Alone is actually quite smooth, yet at the same time this one feels a little out of place. Still, I do enjoy the quirkiness of this song, and I love that Anathema is trying new things. My main complaint with this song is that it has a very abrupt end, and then all of the sudden leaves the listener in the midst of the most peaceful song on the album: Firelight. This is the real Storm Before the Calm, and it's a rather abrupt switch. It would be interesting to hear how this might sound if You're Not Alone had more of a fade out. Firelight, on it's own, is really great. Simple, smooth, very atmospheric, and incredibly relaxing. I listened to this one during the sunrise this morning, and it really had an effect on me. Also- perfect introduction to what I currently think is the best song on the album.

And that would be Distant Satellites. Of all the songs with an electronica influence, it is this one which uses those tools the most effectively imo. I also think it has the best vocals on the album. While I enjoyed the acoustic version of this song, this one really blows me away. I am not speaking in hyperbole when I say that this one very nearly brings me to tears. I also imagine that it could be a really special live song, if executed well.

Take Shelter is another really nice one, and a strong closer I think. With that being said, it doesn't strike me as the perfect closing track (as ColdFireYYZ mentioned). There is a feeling of finality that permeates the song, which I think makes for a good ending, but it doesn't quite deliver the climax I would have hoped for. I doubt I will ever love another closing track (or Anathema song, for that matter) as much as I love Internal Landscapes, but that's the comparison I can't get out of my mind. Take Shelter is no Internal Landscapes, but that's hardly its fault. It's still a really nice song, and I'm sure it will grow on me more as time passes.


On the whole, I think this is a really strong album, and I think it's only going to get stronger. I legitimately enjoy all of the individual tracks, and the same honestly can't be said for all Anathema albums. In that sense, I think this one might be a more consistent release in terms of quality. The same can be said for its production, I think. I suppose relative to the last two albums, one could call this one dark, but on its own it still feels very positive. I appreciate that.

Perhaps my biggest complaint is the overall flow of the album, which (once again) CFYYZ metioned. One thing about WS that makes it one of my favorite albums of all time is that it has really well placed climaxes. The climax of The Storm Before the Calm does an awesome job of tying up the first half of the album, and then it builds again with The Beginning and The End and Lost Child, before finishing with the most powerful track. Here it feels a little more disjointed. Lost Song Part 3 kind of wrecks the momentum of the first four tracks, and the ending of You're Not Alone sticks out like a sore thumb. Finally, I think it may enjoy it more if it ended with the combo of Firelight/Distant Satellites, rather than Take Shelter.

Obviously, all of that could very easily (and probably will) change as I listen to the album more and more. These are my first impressions alone, and should be taken with a handful of salt. These are all very minor, and transient (like time), complaints. 

1.75 thumbs up  :tup...  :justjen  :yeahright  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on June 02, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
How do I get the promo material?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 02, 2014, 09:20:24 AM
I would assume some of the posters got the shitty leak. Personally I'll wait for a proper quality version before I listen to the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 02, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.

that artwork is not great, at first ok but look closer and you see a small speedboat and the water around is same from the original sky colour but the sky is red, technically incorrect, they should have coloured the water red there as well, also the same person did AFDTE, and if you look at that, its a left hand drive car for a british band, because the artist did it in America. Fine and dandy but Pink Floyd etc would make sure that was right hand drive, so again you could say - technically incorrect. They're a very very british sounding band Anathema so would naturally want that to come across in their imagery as well I imagine.

On to this new album, hit n miss for me, i would say the track title Distant Satellites is the best attempt, it doesn't sound like them at all, very alien even
the vocals the way he sings it. He reminds me of someone here, I can't put my finger on it, something 80s or early 90s British, Simply Red, Seal or hmm
I just can't pin it yet. Quite commercial sounding but the electronic basement kick drum pulls it back a bit. That kick drum I would say is the right choice in sound, i was
expecting them to go full on digital and be careless with it. Its a very analogue electronic kick, deep and distant, if i was to pin point it i would have to say Aphex Twins earlier Selected Ambient Works 1 and 2, so good choice there. The surrounding beats on that track are more digital in sound, something theyve taken from a Nord Drum 2 i believe, Porcupine Tree's drummer plays around with it too, good kit for live drummers and they've tried to combine that especially on Take Shelter, a good effort but that track is too short, was expecting it to go on for longer and build even more.

So yea, the title track Alternative 4 from said album was out there, this title track is in the same field, pushing boundaries and changing tune, good on them for trying, I feel they should have been more brave and explored more of it on the first half of the album, perhaps on their next one when they've had more experience but be careful not to end up sounding like Moby, nothing wrong there either just that well... we've heard it before.

I agree, You're Not Alone is not that great but better than repeating WS piano, orchestrated, female vocals, love and spirituality again. Whats not great about it for me is its too close to Radiohead, i would say STOP and go a different direction, i'd have expected more here.

Not a 10 out of 10 album, in fact i'd say out of this and their last 2 albums, there is one 10/10 album. They might have took too short a time off to go into this and need longer to write. A good break should fix that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: JRundquist on June 02, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
I actually got the real version. Having a radio show does help. haha

I do have a theory on the new album that the track order is on purpose.

The first half is showcasing what they have been doing since WHBWH, then the song Anathema happens, then the rest of the album showcases where the band will continue on in the future.

This is also my theory I came up with at 3am, half awake after repeated listens, so this could very well be flawed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 02, 2014, 12:01:47 PM
I would say the artwork is a poor man's A Natural Disaster.

Yes.

And at this point that's all I can really comment on until next Monday. Looking forward to listening to it though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 02, 2014, 12:10:12 PM
I actually got the real version. Having a radio show does help. haha

I do have a theory on the new album that the track order is on purpose.

The first half is showcasing what they have been doing since WHBWH, then the song Anathema happens, then the rest of the album showcases where the band will continue on in the future.

This is also my theory I came up with at 3am, half awake after repeated listens, so this could very well be flawed.

yea its certainly split down the middle like that.

i'd take a lot of reviewers words on this electronic element with a minor pinch of uneducated salt. James Blake? Dubstep? :

" Distant Satellites’ comes over all sub-dubstep in its electro pulses and the chilled down pace is reminiscent of James Blake’s "

eh No, this is not dub step, electronic drum beats does not simply = dub step. probably written by a young metal/indie fan who has never listend to 80/90s techno and
their idea of it is Tiesto or something.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 02, 2014, 05:19:20 PM
Distant Satellistes' chorus reminds me to a Miranda song :lol.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 02, 2014, 06:50:07 PM
First two tracks were way too cheesy and Untouchables all over again. The rest, so far (I'm on the title track now) is very good. 'Anathema' was pretty much indeed what sums them up in the best way possible. And I even loved the sweet 'Ariel', while on WS I can't stand 'Lightning Song'.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 02, 2014, 07:32:17 PM
while on WS I can't stand 'Lightning Song'.

 :huh: I'm curious to know what you dislike about it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 02, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
while on WS I can't stand 'Lightning Song'.

 :huh: I'm curious to know what you dislike about it.

Me too, since Lightning song is my 2nd favorite song on the album right behind eternal landscapes

And really the first time I heard Lightning Song it was like  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 02, 2014, 07:43:51 PM
Lightning Song is fantastic.


This album is very good, I'm on the 3rd listen now. Very different feel than the previous 2 albums, which I like. The last two tracks are probably my favorite. I'm impressed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 02, 2014, 07:50:16 PM
Yeah, Lightning Song is my favorite song from Weather Systems.

On the fourth or so listen, loving this album so much, everything is just beautiful and the melodies are fantastic again. The title track's melody is incredible and I was singing along immediately.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 03, 2014, 04:57:16 AM
I'll elaborate on that (LS) when I have a moment. Exams.. Btw listened to the album and I think it's amazing. The Lost Song clicked too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2014, 05:09:38 AM
I could actually see why someone wouldn't like Lightning Song that much. I think Anathema has a few songs that cross the line of being beautiful to becoming cheesy instead. As for Lightning Song, I would say it's a decent tune but not one of my favorite Lee-songs. Dreaming Light is another song that comes to mind, that I know a lot of people just LOVE, and for me it's just good. Neither that one or Lightning Song would be in my top30 Anathema songs tbh.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 03, 2014, 05:49:00 AM
That's exactly it. Anathema are always walking a fine line between emotional and so emotional it's almost silly.

That's just my opinion ofcourse. But I have to say: the track 'Anathema' is so excessively over-the-top that it's impossible bot to feel anything. Thet couldn't have chosen a better track to name after themselves. On the other side of the spectrum, I really dig the electronic title track.

This album is already way more interesting to me than WS. The only Songs I still play from that one are the last two tracks.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 06:12:00 AM
I figured as much, per Lightning Song, and I can understand why some do find it cheesy, excessively emotional, etc. Maybe I'm just drawn to it (Dreaming Light, and other similar tracks too) because I too am cheesy and excessively emotional  :D

As for DS, a few listens later, I'm struck by just how catchy some of the vocal melodies are. I've gotten at least half of the songs stuck very firmly in my head at one point or another, and that's only after having the album for about 48 hours! I'm still waiting for Lost Song I, III, and You're Not Alone to click the way the rest have. I still enjoy them, quite a bit, and there hasn't ever been a point at which I've wanted to skip them, but they're still not quite on the same level as the rest. Maybe they never will completely click, as was the case with Sunlight on the last album, but I'm still hopeful. Especially so when I get the better quality, official, release.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2014, 06:17:02 AM
That's exactly it. Anathema are always walking a fine line between emotional and so emotional it's almost silly.

That's just my opinion ofcourse. But I have to say: the track 'Anathema' is so excessively over-the-top that it's impossible bot to feel anything. Thet couldn't have chosen a better track to name after themselves. On the other side of the spectrum, I really dig the electronic title track.

This album is already way more interesting to me than WS. The only Songs I still play from that one are the last two tracks.

Personally I think this really started with WHBWH/WS. On their older albums like Judgement, A Natural Disaster and Alternative 4, I feel like they made emotional music, but it never felt like they were trying too much. Ever since they got back on track and started releasing albums more frequently with WHBWH, they have started to cross that line more frequently. When they don't cross it, they deliver some really beautiful and heartfelt music, but when they do cross it, the music just comes off as trying really hard to be something, and sounding forced. I remember especially having that problem with several songs on Falling Deeper (as well as several on WS and a few on WHBWH), sometimes they are just trying a little too much and you can tell.

You feel dumb as the listener because it's a fine line between hearing something that evokes those feelings in you and makes you feel something, and having the song tell you what you should feel.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 03, 2014, 07:13:14 AM
Love the album after 2 listens, I really need to buy this soon!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 08:35:22 AM
Personally I think this really started with WHBWH/WS. On their older albums like Judgement, A Natural Disaster and Alternative 4, I feel like they made emotional music, but it never felt like they were trying too much.

Maybe it has less to do with the music itself, and more to do with the changes surrounding it. A lot of fans (I imagine) felt the change towards incredibly positive lyrics to be a bit forced, jarring, and out of nowhere. If that is the case, it makes sense that they would find the newer material itself more forced. I'm only speculating about that, I could be way off given that I wasn't there at the time. And I can sort of relate as well, coming from the other direction. I started with WHBWH and WS, and when I went back to the older stuff I was, at first, a little put off by the melancholic music. I don't know if forced is the right word, but there were definitely times when I thought it sounded overly emotional. Only difference I suppose is that overly emotional sad music isn't typically labeled as cheesy, but rather melodramatic.

Ah well, what do I know? Nothing... But I certainly have grown to love almost all of their music  (apart for Serenades), cheesy and melodramatic alike.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2014, 09:09:17 AM
It's an interesting point you bring up. I was a fan of the band since before WHBWH came out, but personally I didn't mind the change from dark to light. I think they have written some of their best songs in "Phase 2" of their career, and they have written some really good emotional songs. Maybe it's harder to write positive songs though? It seems like it's easier to capture the melancholic and depressing emotions, maybe because it's easier to pinpoint what those are. When you're writing a positive song, it can easily come off as "Everything is so positive and exciting and life is wonderful and the best thing in the world", which IMO some of the more recent songs suffer from.

There's something very truthful to a lot of their older stuff, and you can really feel and hear the pain of the lyrics on songs like Forgotten Hopes, One Last Goodbye or Lost Control. (Just to name a few) There are moments like that on the recent stuff which also resonates with me (despite the lyrics being more bright and positive), but there are a few songs where it doesn't feel quite as sincere. Maybe it's just the change in lyrics overall. Old Anathema felt very more personal and very much like their own experiences and lives. There are a few recent songs like that, but overall they seem to have moved onto "bigger" ideas, with the whole "life is eternal" theme of exploring life and death.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 09:25:06 AM
The point about the lyrical themes becoming larger and perhaps less personal to the band members themselves is definitely something I haven't thought about before, but see now that you mention it. It also reminds me of a Steven Wilson interview I saw a little while back where he said it's much easier to be genuine writing music about pain and sadness.

And while I enjoy the bigger themes a lot too, there's absolutely no beating One Last Goodbye when it comes to emotive and personal delivery. It doesn't get any better than that...  :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 03, 2014, 11:26:01 AM
now that i think of it, distant satellites title track does have a soul influence in the vocals, one reviewer mentioned james blake?, though not sounding like him, the air of soul is there so that artist probably came to their mind as its recent.

its like a galloping horse, james blake on its back, riding through a field in england, what an achievement. i'm actually beginning to dislike the track now, especially when it starts to gallop :/ ( cringes)  but still give it thumbs up for been what anathema used to be i.e. challenging. hopefully their next album will be a huge step up, this one is a half step up from their past 2 albums imo.

anathema is a nice track but not mind blowing as others make out, ariel and dusk... go over my head, heard it all before. its typical anathema of the past 2 albums.

Hope (though a cover) and Far Away are great tracks too from Eternity, the production is down granted but still... their old bass player Patterson brought them to where they are today, theres no question about it if you read who wrote what, those tracks and especially Empty gave them confidence to change. (Empty has electronic drum loops in there)  Good to see their drummer writing more, though one of his first, Pressure, was a stinker imo, a poor effort to reach radio and failed, that track just goes nowhere. His other one on AFDTE though is probably one of the best ones on it, again the title track. its just the way it goes, win some, lose some.






Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 03, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
Man, Ariel is just gorgeous. I'm glad it wasn't entirely Lee-- the ending makes it all the more powerful.

I'm beginning to think the title track is one of their best songs. The melodies are just outstanding.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 03, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
Why I like WHBWH and WS? It puts me in a comfortable space and atmosphere I can escape to and just enjoy life for life. The things they say in the songs like Everything are things I also believe. Those two albums are interconnected and the most positive, uplifting albums I ever heard.

I first heard Anathema with Fragile dreams and enjoyed the atmosphere. But then, I enjoy music for music and if it makes me feel a certain way I enjoy it, hence why I can listen to so many songs deemed boring, cheap, cheesy, lame, uninspired.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Why I like WHBWH and WS? It puts me in a comfortable space and atmosphere I can escape to and just enjoy life for life. The things they say in the songs like Everything are things I also believe. Those two albums are interconnected and the most positive, uplifting albums I ever heard.

I first heard Anathema with Fragile dreams and enjoyed the atmosphere. But then, I enjoy music for music and if it makes me feel a certain way I enjoy it, hence why I can listen to so many songs deemed boring, cheap, cheesy, lame, uninspired.

+1000. Couldn't have said it any better.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 03, 2014, 01:00:29 PM
All this talk about Distant Satellites is intriguing. Makes me want to listen, but I'm gonna wait for my cd to arrive.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 03, 2014, 01:06:12 PM
It's definitely growing.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 03, 2014, 01:11:28 PM
That's exactly it. Anathema are always walking a fine line between emotional and so emotional it's almost silly.
It's an interesting point you bring up. I was a fan of the band since before WHBWH came out, but personally I didn't mind the change from dark to light. I think they have written some of their best songs in "Phase 2" of their career, and they have written some really good emotional songs. Maybe it's harder to write positive songs though? It seems like it's easier to capture the melancholic and depressing emotions, maybe because it's easier to pinpoint what those are. When you're writing a positive song, it can easily come off as "Everything is so positive and exciting and life is wonderful and the best thing in the world", which IMO some of the more recent songs suffer from.

There's something very truthful to a lot of their older stuff, and you can really feel and hear the pain of the lyrics on songs like Forgotten Hopes, One Last Goodbye or Lost Control. (Just to name a few) There are moments like that on the recent stuff which also resonates with me (despite the lyrics being more bright and positive), but there are a few songs where it doesn't feel quite as sincere. Maybe it's just the change in lyrics overall. Old Anathema felt very more personal and very much like their own experiences and lives. There are a few recent songs like that, but overall they seem to have moved onto "bigger" ideas, with the whole "life is eternal" theme of exploring life and death.
I couldn't have put it better :clap:

Danny always says their lyrics are 100% genuine and honest and I believe that, but on the last 2 albums there are a few songs that are emotional almost to the point of cheesiness, although they manage not to cross that line. Duncan has said that around the time they made Alternative 4 he was surrounded by the wrong kind of people and he would drink a bottle of vodka every day, and you can definitely hear all that anger and depression on the album. I don't consider myself a miserable person, but it's lines like "Nothing left but to kill myself again" that have the biggest emotional impact on me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 03, 2014, 02:06:57 PM
Danny always says their lyrics are 100% genuine and honest and I believe that, but on the last 2 albums there are a few songs that are emotional almost to the point of cheesiness

hold on, there they've said it again, i hear the 'hold on' again, hold on, breathe in, release, air, time, we love youuuuuu.

there awfully repetitive in the lyrics stakes now. patterson wrote the best lyrics imo, never to use the same words twice either. it loses impact.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 03, 2014, 02:56:40 PM
After a couple of listens I'm liking it but I'm not finding it awesome. I must say that both listens happened at the office while I was working and I probably didn't enjoy it as much as I could enjoy it if I was home.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
there awfully repetitive in the lyrics stakes now. patterson wrote the best lyrics imo

You're last couple posts have got me thinking that maybe you are Duncan Patterson. I ignored it before, but now I have to ask. How do you figure that Patterson brought Anathema to where they are today, considering that he's been absent from the last half of their career? Sure you can say he was a massively important in writing their older material, but to suggest that he brought them to where they are today seems a little bit ludicrous to me. Today they are writing very different music than what Patterson wrote for them in the early years. He helped bring them to where they were then, and influence where they are now, but in the recent years Danny has been the principle songwriter and done a fantastic job at it (just my opinion, of course). And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well? It's been well documented that both Vincent and John Douglas have been interested in the electronica influences themselves for a long time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
There's a lot of people who prefer those older days of Patterson writing the lyrics though, so I could see where he is coming from. I think both "phases" of the band has ups and downs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 05:51:38 PM
Oh I agree, a lot of those lyrics are fantastic! I was just confused when he said that Patterson brought them to where they are today, given how different they are now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 03, 2014, 05:59:49 PM
I don't know if I would credit Patterson alone, but I would say the most important time in the band's career was the transition from Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement. That's really the time period that formed the Anathema we have today. They started leaving the heavier stuff behind and started finding that atmospheric and emotional core that has been their foundation ever since. While they have shifted from dark to light, albums like A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are not that different from the newer ones. I think Patterson played an important part in leading the band from the Doom-sound to what they eventually became, but he did not take them for the entire ride. I think he played a major part in changing the band's sound, and once he left, Danny and Vinny basically took more responsibility and continued down the road they started together.

On another note, while I'm not a fan of Serenades, I think that The Silent Enigma is incredibly underrated. I love that album. I would say it's easily on par with albums like Weather Systems, Eternity or even A Fine Day to Exit. It's different, it's heavier and it's not quite the band we know today, but what a fantastic Doom album it is. It's still very melodic, and it's a bit of a personal favorite of mine. I will probably spin it again soon, it's been a while.  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 06:26:45 PM
You've inspired me to give in another listen soon, too. It's been a while for me, as I've never liked it quite as much as the rest (definitely more than Serenades though). I'm not much of a doom fan, and I don't like the vocals all that much, but it's still pretty good. I probably just need to give it another try.

Speaking of underrated, it seems like people never talk about A Fine Day to Exit and I've never really understood why. I'd say it's kind of hit or miss for me, but mainly hit. I really enjoy Pressure, Release and Panic; just about as much as a lot of the tracks on Alternative 4, Natural Disaster, and even a few on WHBWH/WS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 03, 2014, 07:01:36 PM
I know the band since Judgement. Favorite album was A Natural Disaster before WHBWH came out.

I saw the band live when they were supporting Porcupine Tree during that time (A Natural Disaster). The show was alright, but they left a huge impression when they closed with 'Flying'.

When WHBWH came out, my attention was redrawn and me and my brother went to see them on that tour. To this day, this is my favorite concert experience ever pretty much.

When I saw them on the WS tour, they made so many mistakes (especially Johm Douglas), it was almost amateuristic my Anathema obsession kind of came to an end there.

But this album is darn good. Faith restored instantly.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 03, 2014, 07:10:28 PM
They replaced John Douglas with some other man when I saw them, maybe that had something to do with it(?), and sounded superb. Similar to your WHBWH show, mine stands out as probably my favorite concert experience as well. Very emotional night!. I can only imagine what Flying must have been like- that's such an incredible song. The one that I really wish I had gotten is One Last Goodbye, but maybe next time (hoping there is one).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 03, 2014, 07:43:46 PM
Yes, Daniel Cordoso who's been keyboarding for them has taken over on drums, and it already shows on this album. I find it admirable that the band put all egos aside when it comes to music. I suspect the electronic half's beats are mostly Daniel's influence.

FYI, Daniel Cardoso was in Head Control System with Garm from Ulver.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on June 03, 2014, 07:50:42 PM
John Douglas is still in the band though isn't he? The press photo for the album seems to imply that he's still part of the band (along with Jamie Cavanagh, both of whom were absent on both North American Tours).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 03, 2014, 08:27:36 PM
John Douglas is still in the band though isn't he? The press photo for the album seems to imply that he's still part of the band (along with Jamie Cavanagh, both of whom were absent on both North American Tours).
Lee Douglas commented on Facebook confirming that all the members in the press photos (including John Douglas and Jamie Cavanagh) will be playing on the tour.

There was a recent interview with either Danny or Vincent which confirmed John Douglas' status in the band -- he'll be focusing on electronic percussion, synths, and songwriting while, as PixelDream pointed out, Daniel Cardoso will be handling drums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 04, 2014, 12:19:02 AM
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)

In fact, one of the reasons Duncan left was that his writing was going in a more electronic/ambient direction, while the other guys wanted to play rock. If you compare Judgement to the first Antimatter album, it's obvious who was more into electronica at the time.
I don't know if I would credit Patterson alone, but I would say the most important time in the band's career was the transition from Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement. That's really the time period that formed the Anathema we have today. They started leaving the heavier stuff behind and started finding that atmospheric and emotional core that has been their foundation ever since. While they have shifted from dark to light, albums like A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are not that different from the newer ones. I think Patterson played an important part in leading the band from the Doom-sound to what they eventually became, but he did not take them for the entire ride. I think he played a major part in changing the band's sound, and once he left, Danny and Vinny basically took more responsibility and continued down the road they started together.

On another note, while I'm not a fan of Serenades, I think that The Silent Enigma is incredibly underrated. I love that album. I would say it's easily on par with albums like Weather Systems, Eternity or even A Fine Day to Exit. It's different, it's heavier and it's not quite the band we know today, but what a fantastic Doom album it is. It's still very melodic, and it's a bit of a personal favorite of mine. I will probably spin it again soon, it's been a while.  :metal
:iagree:

Duncan wrote most of Eternity and Alt 4, and those albums were crucial for Anathema's evolution, as he started to bring more mellow elements and keyboards into their music. A lot of the more guitar-driven and rocking songs came from the Cavanaghs: The Beloved, Ascension, Fragile Dreams, Re-Connect...

And yes, The Silent Enigma is awesome :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 04, 2014, 01:39:38 AM
You've inspired me to give in another listen soon, too. It's been a while for me, as I've never liked it quite as much as the rest (definitely more than Serenades though). I'm not much of a doom fan, and I don't like the vocals all that much, but it's still pretty good. I probably just need to give it another try.

Speaking of underrated, it seems like people never talk about A Fine Day to Exit and I've never really understood why. I'd say it's kind of hit or miss for me, but mainly hit. I really enjoy Pressure, Release and Panic; just about as much as a lot of the tracks on Alternative 4, Natural Disaster, and even a few on WHBWH/WS.

I really love A Fine Day to Exit. I've seen some people say it's hit or miss, but for me it's mostly hit. The title-track, Temporary Peace, Underworld and Looking Outside Inside are probably my favorites on it, but the songs you mentioned are also really good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 04, 2014, 05:25:00 AM
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)

Yeah, but when was empty written? And until I see some sort of proof that John Douglas's and Vincent's interests in electronics (which, from what I understand, have been around for a long time) was a direct result of Patterson's, I'm going to remain skeptical on the whole 'brought them to where they are today' thing, particularly when it implies that he played a more prominent role in their development than anyone else. Was he an influence? Absolutely, and a big one at that. He also wrote some great lyrics, and played a big part in the period of transformation that Zantera mentioned, but I still think Anathema would have grown and changed a lot regardless. On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 04, 2014, 06:39:11 AM
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)

In fact, one of the reasons Duncan left was that his writing was going in a more electronic/ambient direction, while the other guys wanted to play rock. If you compare Judgement to the first Antimatter album, it's obvious who was more into electronica at the time.
I don't know if I would credit Patterson alone, but I would say the most important time in the band's career was the transition from Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement. That's really the time period that formed the Anathema we have today. They started leaving the heavier stuff behind and started finding that atmospheric and emotional core that has been their foundation ever since. While they have shifted from dark to light, albums like A Fine Day to Exit and Judgement are not that different from the newer ones. I think Patterson played an important part in leading the band from the Doom-sound to what they eventually became, but he did not take them for the entire ride. I think he played a major part in changing the band's sound, and once he left, Danny and Vinny basically took more responsibility and continued down the road they started together.

On another note, while I'm not a fan of Serenades, I think that The Silent Enigma is incredibly underrated. I love that album. I would say it's easily on par with albums like Weather Systems, Eternity or even A Fine Day to Exit. It's different, it's heavier and it's not quite the band we know today, but what a fantastic Doom album it is. It's still very melodic, and it's a bit of a personal favorite of mine. I will probably spin it again soon, it's been a while.  :metal
:iagree:

Duncan wrote most of Eternity and Alt 4, and those albums were crucial for Anathema's evolution, as he started to bring more mellow elements and keyboards into their music. A lot of the more guitar-driven and rocking songs came from the Cavanaghs: The Beloved, Ascension, Fragile Dreams, Re-Connect...

And yes, The Silent Enigma is awesome :metal

exactly. i don't think the other posters realise how much exposure and confidence Eternity and Alt 4 brought to the band and opened doors. Patterson was in the studio for most of Eternity trying to manage everything and is chiefly responsible for directing and inspiring the confidence in Vinny to 'sing'. How do I know this? I'm not Patterson but I've followed this band right from their demo days and read pretty much 90% of what they said in periodicals and know quite a bit of what was going on around then. I once had a huge collection of interviews as far back as 1991. John was not around for Alt4, he was enjoying electronic music more actually, something which Patterson did as well. Most of the band actually became bored/dismayed at how stale the scene became around mid-90s which would explain why they did their own thing and moved further away from funeral doom, its boring. I would say Danny is the more rock/mainstream in the band however.

If Patterson was still in the band, do i think they'd sound like the title track 'Distant Satellites'? No, i don't think they'd sound like any of the last 3 albums but definitely more stripped down, less is more etc, the electronics as well.

I don't like any of Daniel Cardosos own music personally, Head System or whatever its called, sounds like someone with a load of new electronic toys goofing off and not able to control. I'm always wary of multi-instrumentalists, hands in all baskets. The stuff he did for Anneke ex-Gathering was poor, shame with a good vocalist. I guess its who you know, networking, putting oneself forward and asking to contribute, "can i play with you?". I very much doubt you'll ever see him writing for Anathema, he's more a session musician helping out, these guys like to keep things closer to home. He's a decent drummer mind, but we're looking for songs right?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 04, 2014, 06:46:57 AM
On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.

or Patterson, fact. Credit where credit is due, some just can't accept that and feel the world is now theirs, thinking they just
suddenly appeared with 'clean vocals'.

I've just noticed Lost Control has the highest ranking on the likes of youtube, ain't that interesting?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on June 04, 2014, 06:58:21 AM
iirc it was Duncan who got the band to switch direction from the doom metal style in the first place. Or at least one of the major factors they did so. But he hasn't been a part of the band in a long time now, they're where they are because of their own talent.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 04, 2014, 07:17:35 AM
On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.

or Patterson, fact. Credit where credit is due, some just can't accept that and feel the world is now theirs, thinking they just
suddenly appeared with 'clean vocals'.

I've just noticed Lost Control has the highest ranking on the likes of youtube, ain't that interesting?

I'm not trying to take his credit, I think he was massively important. As for the clean vocals, I've read interviews where Vincent talks about how when he 'realized' that he could actually sing and started to work on it himself. Maybe Patterson influenced that process (in fact, I'm almost sure he did), but more fundamentally I think the credit for clean vocals has to go to Vincent. And yes, I find that last bit both interesting and surprising.


My point was basically what abydos pointed out:
iirc it was Duncan who got the band to switch direction from the doom metal style in the first place. Or at least one of the major factors they did so. But he hasn't been a part of the band in a long time now, they're where they are because of their own talent.

If Patterson had stuck around, I am convinced that they would be a significantly different band than they are now. Just as significant as any musical change they've undergone, imo, is the change towards the 'light' (both literally and metaphorically). Danny had a ton of issues and he eventually got help and became fascinated with transcendental meditation. I think that change, just as much if not more than anything that Patterson could have offered, brought Anathema to where they are today.

They're Here Because They're Here. Patterson isn't.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 04, 2014, 07:22:03 AM
They're Here Because They're Here. Patterson isn't.

/thread
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 04, 2014, 09:29:05 AM
Man oh man the bandname track is just perfect. That's one place in the album when the emotion gets real for sure.

Also the second verse with that drum beat and the lyric 'building foundations', that fits so well with the music there.

This song evokes similar feelings to me that I get when I listen to A Simple Mistake and Universal, The Lost Child and to a slightly lesser extent The Beginning And The End.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 04, 2014, 12:30:44 PM
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)

Yeah, but when was empty written? And until I see some sort of proof that John Douglas's and Vincent's interests in electronics (which, from what I understand, have been around for a long time) was a direct result of Patterson's, I'm going to remain skeptical on the whole 'brought them to where they are today' thing, particularly when it implies that he played a more prominent role in their development than anyone else. Was he an influence? Absolutely, and a big one at that. He also wrote some great lyrics, and played a big part in the period of transformation that Zantera mentioned, but I still think Anathema would have grown and changed a lot regardless. On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
I wasn't saying Duncan brought the band to where they are today, which would be silly anyway due to the fact that he's been out of the band for 16 years and Anathema have found a new fanbase with the last couple of albums. I just wanted to point out that the electronic influence isn't an exclusively Vinnie/John thing, and I'm actually sure it would've been really strong on the hypothetical follow-up to A4 if Dunc had stuck around.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 04, 2014, 03:34:08 PM
And today it seems that they're exploring more electronica influences; surely Patterson didn't bring them there as well?
The first Anathema song to include electronic loops was Empty and guess who wrote that song? ;)

Yeah, but when was empty written? And until I see some sort of proof that John Douglas's and Vincent's interests in electronics (which, from what I understand, have been around for a long time) was a direct result of Patterson's, I'm going to remain skeptical on the whole 'brought them to where they are today' thing, particularly when it implies that he played a more prominent role in their development than anyone else. Was he an influence? Absolutely, and a big one at that. He also wrote some great lyrics, and played a big part in the period of transformation that Zantera mentioned, but I still think Anathema would have grown and changed a lot regardless. On the other hand, Anathema wouldn't be where they are today without the Cavanagh brothers.
I wasn't saying Duncan brought the band to where they are today, which would be silly anyway due to the fact that he's been out of the band for 16 years and Anathema have found a new fanbase with the last couple of albums. I just wanted to point out that the electronic influence isn't an exclusively Vinnie/John thing, and I'm actually sure it would've been really strong on the hypothetical follow-up to A4 if Dunc had stuck around.

Yep, I agree and I know that's not what you were saying. I was just bringing it back to the original (and only) point that I was disagreeing with. It was something that master said...

.. their old bass player Patterson brought them to where they are today, theres no question about it if you read who wrote what...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 04, 2014, 09:50:08 PM
Patterson was definitely an important member, but aside from the Eternity suite and "Alternative 4," i can't say a lot of songs with his credits do much for me (especially "Feel" and "Destiny," two real clunkers on the end of that album). the Cavanagh brothers have been consistently writing some of the band's best material...

... and i'd wager the real difference came from John Douglas. he walked in for Judgement and wrote some of the best songs on it, and hasn't let down the songwriting brilliance since.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
Distant Satellites got a 4 out of 10 in a magazine here, that's pretty surprisingly low. While I haven't heard it, I wonder how much the mentality you have going into the album matters. I know that sometimes for some albums, I go into the album and end up really liking it, but when time passes, I start to realize that the album wasn't actually THAT good, and that I was slightly blinded by the fact that I like the band.

I used to be very biased a few years ago, but I try to go in 100% neutral in albums these days. I completely ignore the artist/band and just judge the album on its own merits, because that's what you should do IMO. With some reviews giving out full scores almost on a weekly basis, it's almost annoying how biased some people seem to be. It's actually more refreshing with reviews giving lower scores, because at least they feel more honest somehow.

I don't have huge expectations for the album personally. As long as it's better than Weather Systems, I'll be happy. I don't see it beating Judgement or We're Here Because We're Here, but that's really no shame, considering how good those two albums are. Still holding out for a good quality leak or the CD release though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 05, 2014, 04:25:36 AM
I try to go in 100% neutral in albums these days. I completely ignore the artist/band and just judge the album on its own merits, because that's what you should do IMO.

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I don't have huge expectations for the album personally. As long as it's better than Weather Systems, I'll be happy. I don't see it beating Judgement or We're Here Because We're Here, but that's really no shame, considering how good those two albums are.

Er... :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2014, 04:34:06 AM
I guess "hopes" would be a better word than "expectations". Sorry for phrasing that badly.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 05, 2014, 04:37:01 AM
:lol Fair enough, that's a bit different. I think I know what you were getting at, but ultimately, you still have some sort of expectation going in. I agree that it's really hard to completely not though - that very first listen can often be quite surprising because hard as you try there'll always be some sort of expectation. It normally takes me a few listens to be able to shake that off and really give my neutral opinion on something.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2014, 04:40:14 AM
Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's important to not get carried away with initial reactions. Many times you can love something initially, but once it sinks in and you start to really analyze it, your reaction changes.

I will say that the electronics-part is my main reason for excitement with this album. I think Anathema have turned into a one trick pony lately, and they have one thing they have been doing on the last few albums. So I feel like a new element in their music is needed to bring new life into their sound. It risks getting stale if you keep doing the same thing, but by hearing they are doing some new things on this album, that sounds good to me. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 05:09:42 AM
I'm glad that we seem to have moved on from the Patterson discussion  :lol

I agree with your comments on overly positive reviews, Zantera, but I think that's a more general problem that affects both positive and negative reviews. I think people rating the new album 4 out of 10 are likely among a crowd that found themselves let down by the new album as a result of their own set of expectations. So in that sense, I'm not sure it necessarily is more honest. Unless of course, that review is coming from someone who isn't at all familiar with Anathema. With all of that being said, it is kind of refreshing to get  a break from the onslaught of gushing reviews. Because often times negative reviews come when a band tries something new, and that's always good news in my book. Some people will like it and some won't, and while I'm happy to be in the first group the negative reviews also serve as evidence that the change isn't entirely in my imagination.

As for Anathema getting stale, I get what you're saying. As much as I love both WHBWH and WS, I'm glad that they are going in a slightly new direction now. Of course, in a lot of ways DS is very similar to both of those albums (particularly in the lyrics department, methinks), but it's good to know that those lyrics are being delivered in a slightly different way. Because that's what makes Anathema special to me- they're always evolving.

In other news, Silent Enigma is growing on me. I still think Vinny does a better job singing (in the traditional sense), but I'm starting to appreciate just how much his vocal delivery adds to the mood of that album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 05, 2014, 05:12:46 AM
Yeah I know what you mean. I think it's important to not get carried away with initial reactions. Many times you can love something initially, but once it sinks in and you start to really analyze it, your reaction changes.
More commonly it's the other way for me. It's pretty rare that I love something on first listen and don't still at least really really like it later on. More often, a shift in style or something else unexpected will cause me to not really get an album on first listen. That's normally where I decide not to form an opinion, give it a few more listens, and then decide. Most recent example of that is Closure in Moscow's new album - first listen was a total wtf for me as it was quite a departure from their first two albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2014, 05:49:32 AM
Oh yeah, I hear you. I've experienced both ways myself. For some reason, the albums I love after the first listen tend to be albums that fade away over time, but albums that doesn't click until 5-10 listens are often the albums I end up loving the most.  :hat

Funny enough with the two Anathema albums I love the most, they were opposite sides of that spectrum. Judgement took probably 10 listens before it clicked, and I consider it to be a flawless album. WHBWH clicked from the opening of Thin Air, and I think that album is incredible as well.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 05, 2014, 05:52:42 AM
They're Here Because They're Here. Patterson isn't.

lol he is here, it's just you haven't acquired the other side of the brain, it's not catchy enough for you.  You seem to think Judgement would have came along anyway right after Silent Enigma, a bit of a jump for the 2 brothers, espeically when one never wrote much and Douglas only started on Judgement.

It's ok though, many who discovered this band in the past 5-10 years find it hard to grasp how they 'got here'. Theres a long line of development there. Alt 4 exposed the band and opened doors, the lyrics, the vocals, the drum loops, the imagery, song titles. had they never opened, your fine new Anathema would probably not exist or have returned to Doom Goth much like Paradise Lost. When ones boots get too big, they can sometimes forget where they came from, naturally.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 06:07:13 AM
it's just you haven't acquired the other side of the brain, it's not catchy enough for you.

elaborate, please

You seem to think Judgement would have came along anyway right after Silent Enigma

incorrect

Theres a long line of development there. Alt 4 exposed the band and opened doors...

obviously, but that was never disputed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 05, 2014, 06:20:39 AM
After a couple of listens I can say that this album doesn't live up to the 2 previous ones. Although the last part brings a new feeling with the electronic elements the first half sounds a lot like they were just repeating the formula and while there are some songs that I really like overall I don't get those intense feelings Anathema normally generates.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on June 05, 2014, 06:46:42 AM
If you haven't heard it yet here's the stream: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/anathema-exclusive-album-stream-get-a-first-listen-to-the-bands-new-record-distant-satellites-9487235.html?dkdk (https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/anathema-exclusive-album-stream-get-a-first-listen-to-the-bands-new-record-distant-satellites-9487235.html?dkdk)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 06:56:21 AM
After a couple of listens I can say that this album doesn't live up to the 2 previous ones. Although the last part brings a new feeling with the electronic elements the first half sounds a lot like they were just repeating the formula and while there are some songs that I really like overall I don't get those intense feelings Anathema normally generates.

Agreed.

I just finished listening to the album stream and yes its a solid album, but honestly I do not feel like it holds up to the majestic awe and wonder that was Weather Systems.

Weather systems is a top 10 album for me and while Distant Satellites is decent, its not something I'll worship like WS.

And I'm not feeling the electronica. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE electronica, but I don't think it meshes well here, especially on songs like You're not alone.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 07:46:54 AM
Speaking from my experiences alone, I wasn't particularly awed by either WS or DS the first few times I heard them all the way through. In fact, the first handful of listens to WS on Spotify left me with not much more than a 'this is pleasant...' I hope, and even expect, that DS will grow on me over time just like WS did. Maybe not equal in degree, but at the very least steady growth.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on June 05, 2014, 08:04:57 AM
Listened to the Anathema song, not that impressed overall. Has some great parts and some mediocre ones, especially early on. Impressive performance by Vinnie, though. The solo was really nice at the end but there was too much going on behind it and the whole thing felt cluttered to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 05, 2014, 10:18:14 AM
Overall I'm liking this better than WS, but not better than WHBWH.

Weather Systems first half I don't really like (except maybe The Gathering of the Clouds). From Storm Before the Calm until the end is stellar though.

Distant Satellites has the Untouchable formula on the song(s) 'The Lost Song', but I'm way more fond of that mood as opposed to the super optimistic Untouchables. Also, the times I saw them open up with Untouchables.. that song is just not working at all live. It was really awkward. I think this new song will open up concerts in a much better way.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 05, 2014, 10:43:01 AM
Weather Systems first half I don't really like (except maybe The Gathering of the Clouds). From Storm Before the Calm until the end is stellar though.

You don't like the first half of WS? While I'm not a huge fan of the album, I would say the Untouchable-songs are the biggest stand outs on the whole album. There are a few other songs that stick out, but the Untouchable-songs are top tier Anathema IMO. There's some other lackluster songs on the album, but the way it opens (and ends) is quite fantastic. I would say the middle portion is where it gets slower.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 10:51:34 AM
Sunlight is where WS gets lower.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 05, 2014, 11:22:59 AM
Sunlight is where WS gets lower.

Yeah, that's the only song on WS that doesn't really need to be there, especially since the flow of it is so damn similar to Lightning Song, which came RIGHT before.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 05, 2014, 12:33:03 PM
I'm the odd one out then cause I love Sunlight
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 05, 2014, 12:36:46 PM
Sunlight is easily the weakest song on the album IMO. Danny doesn't have a bad voice, but tbh I wouldn't mind if he left all the vocal duties to Vincent and Lee.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 05, 2014, 12:37:06 PM
I'm the odd one out then cause I love Sunlight

I also love Sunlight.

Love the whole album really.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 05, 2014, 12:42:45 PM
Sunlight's great and Danny has a very good voice. His singing style reminds me very much of Nick Drake, which makes sense considering he was influenced by him and did the tribute album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 05, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
Danny's vocals are hit or miss for me. Sunlight, unfortunately, is a bit of a miss. Are You There?, on the other hand, is one of my favorite Anathema songs ever
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 05, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Sunlight is amazing. I love when the drums start picking up at the end
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 05, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
I only like Untouchables and The Beginning And The End from WS. The rest is kind of "there" and it's okay and pleasant, but not something I'm really into.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on June 06, 2014, 01:31:11 PM
https://diffuser.fm/anathemas-distant-satellites/

Whole album stream.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 07, 2014, 05:54:43 AM
Wow, Different Satellites is really amazing. Where should I even begin with this one? Guess try to break it down a bit song by song, I guess that's the easiest way to go? But before I do that, I just have to say that this album was really quite the positive surprise for me. I did not hate Weather Systems, but I thought it was "just" a good album. I would give it a 7 or 7.5 out of 10. It had some really amazing songs, but about 50-55% of the album felt like less interesting versions of songs I heard on WHBWH. I know a lot of people loved WS, but to me, parts of it felt like "I've seen and heard this before". Still, not a bad album, just not one of the better ones in their discography.

(Note: These thoughts are after just TWO listens of the album)

The Lost Song-duo opening the album is IMO just as good as The Untouchable-duo or the Thin Air/Summernight Horizon combo. Anathema really knows how to open their album with a strong song, and having the second song be a slightly slower and more calm "version" of the first song. (They did it on WS and they do it again here) It's a really strong way to open an album, and I have a feeling that these songs will be held very high by myself if I were to rank Anathema songs down the line. It's an effective way to open the album, and it's a strong and memorable start to the album.

Dusk (Dark is Descending) has more going on in it, compared to the first two songs, and it's also a song I haven't quite figured out yet. I have a feeling it will click with a few more spins, but it is a very solid continuation of the album, and I really like how it goes into Ariel. Now Ariel is a really beautiful song. I don't feel like I need to say more about it, because I've seen others mention that song as well, so let's just stick with "it's really darn good".  ;) The Lost Song 3 IMO works really well on the album. When I first heard the sample of the song before the album, it felt kinda like "Anathema B-Side", but after getting the effect of Part 1 and Part 2, it works much better on the album. Yes, they could probably have put Part 3 right after Part 1 and 2, but placing it slightly later on the album feels like a nice little callback to Eternity, and how the "chapter"-songs were used on that album.

The song "Anathema" is one of the highlights on the album for sure. If you (25 years into your career) put out a song named after the band, you kinda want it to be something memorable, and something that holds up quality-wise, and the song delivers on those notes. "You're Not Alone" is a song I haven't quite made up my mind about yet. I really like how it starts and how it builds up, but the electronic "climax" (if you will) is not AS good as the parts leading up to it. This would probably be my least favorite song on the album, but still a cool song. Firelight sounds like a Paris in the Spring song. (That's my own musical project) And that's kinda funny. I don't mean that in a quality-way, but it generally sounds like something I would/could have made. (I've made several ambient interlude-type of songs)

The title track is a good example of using the electronics to their advantage, and it's another big highlight. Probably the "Universal" or "Internal Landscapes" of this album. I would probably say that it's the best song on the album, but also an instant Anathema classic. Take Shelter is a great song, but I might had re-arranged the album and ended the album with the title track instead of Take Shelter actually. The album overall feels like a fresh take on the Anathema sound, and they deliver fresh-sounding music without throwing away the elements that make them so wonderful.

With the exception of a few re-arrangements (Having all Lost Songs in a row, ending album with title-track) and a few questions about "You're Not Alone", I'm feeling a 4.5 out of 5 on this one. Bravo Anathema, you just made me even more excited for the show in November.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 07, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
Great to hear you're liking it so much, Jimmy. I myself haven't had a proper listen yet - I listened through most of it on the Soundcloud stream, but I don't think you get the full aural impact on those and so I'm going to wait for the actual thing before properly delving into it. I was really liking what I heard though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 07, 2014, 11:23:11 AM
Based on your previous comments in this thread, I definitely wasn't expecting such a positive review from you, Zantera.

I agree about the track listing. Either the title track or Anathema would have been good closers IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 07, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
Take Shelter is the only track I'm not into or hasn't clicked yet. It's not bad by any means, it just reminds me way too much of Sigur Ros. The way he holds that high note is just carbon copy Jonsi style.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: haceeb on June 07, 2014, 02:33:33 PM
Anathema is my most favorite band along with Dream Theater and I'm already in love with Distant Satellites. Don't forget it's my album of 2014 too.
(https://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab90/Haceeb_Khaled/ANATHEMADistantSatellites_zpsd76869d3.jpg) (https://s852.photobucket.com/user/Haceeb_Khaled/media/ANATHEMADistantSatellites_zpsd76869d3.jpg.html)
 :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 07, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
enjoying the second Lost Song best out of the three. even though it's fit in the template of Untouchable pt. 2, it's potentially the most effective of these. also it transitions absolutely beautifully into pt. 3, which is likely my second favourite of the trio. a fantastic suite all around methinks.

i'm still trying to grasp and understand Dusk, Ariel and Anathema. obviously they're in the WHBWH/WS style so i am familiar with that but the actual content and the length of the pieces is creating this seamless blending effect. they are quite a trio on their own.

without a doubt, the electronic end of the record is my favourite. the title track is just beyond words for me. (and i'm glad You're Not Alone turned out to be way less annoying than i thought it'd be from samples!)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 07, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
I'm actually very fond of 'Dusk', it blew me away at first listen. 'Ariel' kept up the quality, but then the song 'Anathema' came along. And then the title track was just something else, in a completely different style and they pulled it off.

Those tracks are the peaks I think. The album doesn't get boring anywhere.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 07, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
First reaction to the last part of You're Not Alone: what the fuck? :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 07, 2014, 09:06:52 PM
snipping all of that down...

I'm glad to hear you have enjoyed it so far! I also hope that it grows on you as it has for me over the past week. I completely agree about the track sequencing- the title track (my favorite, as well) would have made a more fitting closer imo.

My copy should arrive early next week, I'm going to hold off on listening until then! :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 07, 2014, 09:21:38 PM
Firelight is so beautiful, love shit like that
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2014, 05:09:06 AM
I'm curious, what kind of setlist do you guys think (or hope) we will see on the tour? :) If I'm making one, this is both what I think is possible but also something I would hope for. I'll keep it somewhat realistically and have a setlist around the 2 hour mark.

The Lost Song (Pt 1)
The Lost Song (Pt 2)
The Lost Song (Pt 3)
Untouchable (Pt 1)
Untouchable (Pt 2)
Dusk (Dark is Descending)
Ariel
Thin Air
Balance/Closer
Anathema
A Fine Day to Exit (I wish  :angel:)
A Simple Mistake
Take Shelter
Internal Landscapes
Distant Satellites
--Encore--
Fragile Dreams
One Last Goodbye
Universal


I think there might be a good chance they will play "A Natural Disaster" instead of Balance/Closer though. I went with the latter two because there are some electronic stuff that would work neatly with what they have on the new album. A Fine Day to Exit is a bit of a dream, I would also love Temporary Peace. I would love something more from Judgement like Emotional Winter or Don't Look Too Far, or even Forgotten Hopes. I would love hearing Regret from Alternative 4, but I doubt they will play it. As long as they play Universal, that's "THE" Anathema song for me. Maybe drop ONE DS-song and throw in another from WS, it's hard to say.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 09, 2014, 05:50:15 AM
All I can really say is that that would be a killer setlist  :omg:

I agree that Natural Disaster is a likely choice, and that Fine Day to Exit is very unlikely. As for the new songs, it wouldn't surprise me if Lost Song Part 3 wasn't played, but that may just be wishful thinking and the fact that it's one of my least favorite songs on the album.

As for me, I have my dream setlist and my more realistic prediction. Both are about 2 hours, but this is what happens when they collide.

Firelight
Distant Satellites
Thin Air
Dreaming Light
Lost Song 1
Lost Song 2
Dusk
Ariel
Lightning Song
The Beginning and the End
Anathema
Take Shelter
Closer
Universal
Flying
--------
Internal Landscapes
One Last Goodbye
Fragile Dreams


I'd love to see more than just OLG from Judgement, but I think this is more realistic
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2014, 07:02:33 AM
Interesting idea to open with Firelight and the Distant Satellites. I think that could be cool as well. :) I do hope that the setlist isn't just new stuff, and then WS and WHBWH material though. It seems likely that there won't be many older songs, but it would be nice with a few surprises. I forgot about Flying, and I think that's a song they very well could play, because it is like a "hit"-song. One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams feel almost like sure bets, but it would be nice with something surprising, like how they played Emotional Winter on the last tour. So that was mainly my reasoning for naming A Fine Day to Exit. It's always cool with a surprise song from the back catalog. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dark Castle on June 09, 2014, 07:16:47 AM
The song "Anathema" is incredible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 09, 2014, 07:47:21 AM
Interesting idea to open with Firelight and the Distant Satellites. I think that could be cool as well. :) I do hope that the setlist isn't just new stuff, and then WS and WHBWH material though. It seems likely that there won't be many older songs, but it would be nice with a few surprises. I forgot about Flying, and I think that's a song they very well could play, because it is like a "hit"-song. One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams feel almost like sure bets, but it would be nice with something surprising, like how they played Emotional Winter on the last tour. So that was mainly my reasoning for naming A Fine Day to Exit. It's always cool with a surprise song from the back catalog. :)

Yeah, even though Distant Satellites strikes me as a song more likely to be played later in a setlist, I thought Firelight would make a really strong impact as the band makes their entrance. I guess it could serve the same purpose as they move into the encore, but I imagine it would be spectacular either way. I definitely think Fragile Dreams is a sure bet. One Last Goodbye almost certainly is, too. I was somewhat shocked that they didn't play it last year when I saw them co headlining with Alcest. Hopefully next time. I'm assuming they'll be touring North America again this upcoming year. I don't remember (maybe someone can remind me), but I think Vincent mentioned that that was being planned for the first half of 2015.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2014, 08:03:28 AM
I wonder what the chances are that we would get anything pre-Alternative 4. There are a bunch of songs from Eternity that they could play, you have the title-track(s), Angelica and something like Far Away (a personal favorite). Wasn't it also Vinny or Danny recently who wouldn't rule out them doing something from The Silent Enigma/the old days but with the Falling Deeper "approach"? Given, in a setlist that is already pretty crammed, the odds of them playing something older than Alternative 4 stuff feels very small, but the band has surprised us in the past with some song choices.

While Fragile Dreams is as close to a "hit song" that the band has, personally I don't think it's necessary for them to play it. Considering the amount of good songs they have by now, they could close off the night with something like Untouchable or Thin Air and have those "take the place" of Fragile Dreams. I still think they will play it, but personally I would be more disappointed if they left off One Last Goodbye instead of Fragile Dreams.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 09, 2014, 08:55:17 AM
Agreed. One Last Goodbye>>>Fragile Dreams in my book

And yes, I think Vinny did mention that in a recent interview. I think the most likely to be played song, pre-Alternative 4, would be Angelica. I don't know what else... It would be interesting to hear a song reworked from Silent Enigma, maybe Shroud of Frost, but that's more wishful thinking than anything else.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 09, 2014, 09:36:40 AM
Ok, two full listens of the album now.

Overall, I think it's gorgeous. I do sort of agree with some of the comments here about the pacing/track-order being a little off.

For me, the first 6 tracks are just wonderful - lots of power and emotion. I imagine some people might find them samey or too much an extension of WS (although I'd say they're quite different - much less acoustic guitar), but still beautiful. Ariel in particular is stunningly emotive, and Anathema is fantastic as well - those are probably my two favourites at the moment.

You're Not Alone is fine in and of itself, but I don't think it really fits on the album at all, and feels really out of place.

And then the last 3 tracks are all very mellow - very very nice, but quite a shift in mood. I dig the introduction of the electronic elements and think it's cool that they've added in some new ideas, but the fact that the last 15 minutes of the album is all pretty quiet (especially vocally) with no real crescendos or climaxes just makes the album feel like it fizzles out slightly.

I think if they'd moved either Take Shelter or Firelight/DS earlier in the album - say just before Ariel - I think the pacing of the album would have worked so much better. And they probably could have scrapped You're Not Alone, or saved it for another release where it might fit better.

Still, the music itself is great, and I absolutely adore some of the songs already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2014, 09:42:03 AM
I saw someone say that Take Shelter is one of their weakest closers and that's actually an interesting notion. I do like the song myself, but if you look at previous closers, you got: Internal Landscapes, Hindsight, Violence, Temporary Peace and 2000 & Gone on previous albums. I think the title track could have been the closing track tbh. It's both epic, has that grandiose feeling and would have been a satisfying ending to the album. Take Shelter is still great though, so it's just a minor thing really.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 09, 2014, 09:46:44 AM
I can't see them dropping Fragile Dreams, and to be honest I hope they won't, because I haven't seen them live yet and I love that song. I bet A Natural Disaster, Closer, Thin Air, Dreaming Light and the Untouchables will stay as well.
One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams feel almost like sure bets, but it would be nice with something surprising, like how they played Emotional Winter on the last tour. So that was mainly my reasoning for naming A Fine Day to Exit. It's always cool with a surprise song from the back catalog. :)
Maybe Don't Look Too Far? That song hasn't been played since 2000 and it could represent Judgement on this tour. Sadly I think AFDTE (album) will be ignored :-\

As for the pre-A4 stuff, I doubt there'll be anything from Eternity, but I could see them busting out Kingdom and/or Sunset of Age in the "mash-up" form (original + Falling Deeper) Vincent talked about.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 09, 2014, 12:32:31 PM
Glad to say I'm enjoying the album more and more with each listen - aside from 'Anathema' I was pretty underwhelmed after my first spin. I also agree with the pacing/track order comments though - the album sort of peters out for me after the brilliance of Anathema. I'm not really into the electronic feel of the final 2 tracks sadly, but that seems to be the direction they're moving in now, so I'm more pleased with the album than I thought I might be. The last 3 albums for me at the moment go: WHBWH>>>WS>>DS

Anyone know the score with British tour dates? They still don't seem to have announced anything, hope they make it north of the border.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 09, 2014, 01:22:55 PM
I saw someone say that Take Shelter is one of their weakest closers and that's actually an interesting notion. I do like the song myself, but if you look at previous closers, you got: Internal Landscapes, Hindsight, Violence, Temporary Peace and 2000 & Gone on previous albums. I think the title track could have been the closing track tbh. It's both epic, has that grandiose feeling and would have been a satisfying ending to the album. Take Shelter is still great though, so it's just a minor thing really.
I dunno, I don't find the title track very grand either, by their standards. It's quite mellow and calm really.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ninja1125 on June 10, 2014, 08:04:00 AM
I could see them playing the album in full at least for one part of the tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 10, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
I could see them playing the album in full at least for one part of the tour.

I think there is a possibility they could play all the songs from the album, but does it necessarily have to be in one sequence? It feels like the chances are higher that they play all 10 songs, but spread out in the setlist, rather than the entire album as one big chunk, but that's only my guess. I don't mean this in a bad way, but I don't think Anathema has any albums that NEEDS to be played as one sequence. It's not like a concept album where you want the full effect of it, with all songs flowing into each other, with Anathema it's more an overall atmosphere on the album, with songs that doesn't necessarily HAVE to be played together.

They didn't do it for WS or WHBWH, so I don't think they will play all 10 in a row. But all 10 spread out in the setlist, I think that could happen. If I were to bet money on it, I would guess 7-8 songs from the new album or something like that. You're Not Alone or Firelight seems like the two I doubt whether they will play or not, but I'm not ruling any of them out. Especially if they use Firelight as a "intro" of some sort, they could squeeze that song into the concert without "playing" it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ninja1125 on June 10, 2014, 12:12:21 PM
I think there is a possibility they could play all the songs from the album, but does it necessarily have to be in one sequence? It feels like the chances are higher that they play all 10 songs, but spread out in the setlist, rather than the entire album as one big chunk, but that's only my guess. I don't mean this in a bad way, but I don't think Anathema has any albums that NEEDS to be played as one sequence. It's not like a concept album where you want the full effect of it, with all songs flowing into each other, with Anathema it's more an overall atmosphere on the album, with songs that doesn't necessarily HAVE to be played together.

They didn't do it for WS or WHBWH, so I don't think they will play all 10 in a row. But all 10 spread out in the setlist, I think that could happen. If I were to bet money on it, I would guess 7-8 songs from the new album or something like that. You're Not Alone or Firelight seems like the two I doubt whether they will play or not, but I'm not ruling any of them out. Especially if they use Firelight as a "intro" of some sort, they could squeeze that song into the concert without "playing" it.
I could have sworn they played WHBWH in full multiple times
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 10, 2014, 12:21:55 PM
Daniel Cardoso recording Ariel on drums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iRAQhmZndI
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 10, 2014, 01:11:13 PM
I think I like his drumming better than John Douglas' drumming already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ninja1125 on June 10, 2014, 01:13:47 PM
I think I like his drumming better than John Douglas' drumming already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 10, 2014, 04:34:29 PM
The song 'Anathema' shows the band getting the most out of their current sound. The song 'Distant Satellites' opens up a possible new path to delve into. That's a freakin' EDM track and it's absolutely amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 10, 2014, 05:39:44 PM
That's a freakin' EDM track and it's absolutely amazing.
I don't know you, but I don't feel like dancing that song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 10, 2014, 07:15:52 PM
After a few listens I personally find the album underwhelming.

I love Ariel and really like The Lost song Part 2, Firelight and also the title track. Besides that, the album really doesn't do that much for me. And God, I can't stand You're not alone. I find it very annoying and have already deleted it from Itunes.

(https://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/black_floyd_2007/vomit.gif) You're Not Alone

Me and my Fiancé would listen to Weather Systems for hours on end, and 9 times out of 10 it would lead to intimacy. We listened to Distant Satellites and she was like "what happened" and I agree with her. The electronica just does not suit them and detracts from what they are really good at.

Regardless of all of that, I still love Anathema and consider WS to be one of my top 10 albums ever made. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 10, 2014, 07:28:28 PM
I can't stand You're not alone. I find it very annoying and have already deleted it from Itunes.

(https://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc55/black_floyd_2007/vomit.gif) You're Not Alone

Me and my Fiancé would listen to Weather Systems for hours on end, and 9 times out of 10 it would lead to intimacy. We listened to Distant Satellites and she was like "what happened" and I agree with her. The electronica just does not suit them and detracts from what they are really good at. 

I couldn't possibly disagree more than I do now. :smiley: I do try to welcome different opinions though and I'm sorry that you aren't enjoying it that much. What do you think they are really good at and why do you think the electronica influences detract from that?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 10, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
After a couple listens I find it to be a bit underwhelming as well. Not bad by any means, but not anywhere near as good as WS, and probably a tad bit worse than WHBWH.

The electronic final third is interesting, but the album before that just sounds like more of the same sound from the last two albums, only less inspired. WHBWH established the sound, WS perfected it, and while this album's a bit more dark/empty sounding, I don't think it differentiates itself enough. That, and the composition of the songs just feels weaker, for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 02:28:37 AM
I feel like DS is a step in the right direction lyric-wise. I haven't analyzed the lyrics yet, but they feel less "IN YO FACE" than they have on the last few releases, and I think that's good. It's hard for me to listen to songs like Lightning Song or Everything without cringing/rolling my eyes over the lyrics, and on DS it still felt emotional but more honest. Not as much "Life is beautiful and every day is a gift" that we've heard before.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 11, 2014, 02:36:36 AM
I really don't see what the problem is with those sorts of lyrics - in fact, that's one of things I love about Anathema and their recent output in particular. Almost every other rock band writes about depressing stuff, it's so rare to have a band write music that is emotional but positive. I love that unique quality.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 02:44:19 AM
It's not that they are positive but they just feel very blatant and clumsy. If you compare those songs to their more negative/depressing songs, you don't have the band singing "Life is misery and every day is a torture". They have some positive songs that really works, but when they hit you in the head with the message it becomes kinda cringeworthy. That's just how I see it anyways, and it's not just restricted to Anathema. You want your lyrics to be honest and emotional, but still having that "open to interpretation" part. They have a few songs like Lightning Song and Everything where it just becomes too much for me, personally.

I prefer the lyrics that evoke those feelings in me, rather than having the lyrics spell out exactly what it is. You don't need to say "life is beautiful" in order to paint the picture in a song. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on June 11, 2014, 04:06:47 AM
After a couple listens I find it to be a bit underwhelming as well. Not bad by any means, but not anywhere near as good as WS, and probably a tad bit worse than WHBWH.

The electronic final third is interesting, but the album before that just sounds like more of the same sound from the last two albums, only less inspired. WHBWH established the sound, WS perfected it, and while this album's a bit more dark/empty sounding, I don't think it differentiates itself enough. That, and the composition of the songs just feels weaker, for whatever reason.

I kind of agree with everything you said here, except that I find the last three albums have become progressively weaker. WHBWH was absolutely fantastic and blew my mind, WS was more of the same and in a way less interesting and DS just bored the hell out of me the first time I heard it (that was yesterday). It felt like the band is just reusing old ideas and DS just doesn't feel 'new' or 'fresh', but more like a rehash of the bad songs from WHBWH that didn't make the cut, in the same way that WS felt like a copy of WHBWH, but less good. Well, that's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, maybe it'll become better when I listen to it some more, but for now, I'm unimpressed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 04:13:59 AM
I think their "formula" have been the same for these three albums, and I can see why that would bother people. It bothered me that WS was just a slightly weaker WHBWH, but essentially "more of the same". However, with DS I feel like there was enough new stuff in there to separate it slightly from those two albums. The formula is still pretty much the same, but this didn't feel like another super-bright album, and that was nice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 11, 2014, 04:44:14 AM
Exactly. I see DS as taking what has worked well and trying to put a new spin on it. And I think they succeeded in that. It has a slightly more empty feel to it than WS, less acoustic guitar, some electronica influence, and a darker tone overall.

As for Weather Systems being a recycled WHBWH, which seems to be a very common complaint, I've always felt that WS did an excellent job of refining and focusing in on what made WHBWH so great. In other words, it seems like most people see WS as a redo of WHBWH, and I've always felt that it was more of a progression.

Right now I'm thinking

WS
WHBWH
DS
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 04:49:39 AM
I would rank them: WHBWH > DS >> WS

But I think the electronic elements of the album are very interesting. I think some of you will agree that the main highlight with Anathema have been their vocal melodies, and the atmosphere of their songs. Some really powerful vocal melodies and haunting choruses on the last few albums, and the thing they got going with Danny/Vinny/Lee on vocals is such a great mix and gives their vocals a diversity that not a lot of other bands have. With that said, the "rock" part of their sound has just been a framework to hang all that other stuff on. I could totally see Anathema transition into something different, a sound more like on the title-track on DS, with more electronics and it would still feel Anathema and have those strengths that they have. Don't get me wrong, I like the rock-aspect of their music, but I don't think it's the main reason for why I like them. They can continue writing strong vocal melodies and catchy choruses with emotional feels with another approach. (in this case electronic)

If Distant Satellites (the song) is a sign for what's to come, I'll be VERY excited for the next album.  :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 11, 2014, 05:06:51 AM
Amen to that.

The electronics open a lot of doors in terms of building atmosphere that they may not ever touch on if they were to stick with a more standard rock approach. I'm hoping for an album that's almost exclusively in the direction of the last four DS tracks.

It's interesting though, that those songs were all written a few years ago. Didn't one of the brothers say that in an interview a little while back?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 05:11:26 AM
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't "Anathema" written like 15-20 years ago? Or something odd like that. I would imagine the first "draft" was very different from the final version though. I will say that "You're Not Alone" really does sound like a song that was written during A Natural Disaster or something. Like a long lost twin-song to Closer. If you think about it, A Natural Disaster had some electronic ideas on it. It felt like they were gonna go down that road, but after the 7 year hiatus it felt like they almost had to re-establish themselves with some strong albums again, which they did. And now they made another album, teasing to go deeper into electronics. Personally I hope this album gets a good reception (so far it has) and that the band is encouraged to continue down that road.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 11, 2014, 05:56:19 AM
As for Weather Systems being a recycled WHBWH, which seems to be a very common complaint, I've always felt that WS did an excellent job of refining and focusing in on what made WHBWH so great. In other words, it seems like most people see WS as a redo of WHBWH, and I've always felt that it was more of a progression.
Agreed, and I do personally find those complaints pretty weird. For me WS and WHBWH are very different, other than the general style of positive upbeat rock music.

My ranking would go WS > DS > WHBWH, and those are my top 3 Anathema albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 11, 2014, 06:20:04 AM
Yeah I suspect that DS might end up passing WHBWH for me, given more time. It does get a little trickier once you throw in some of the older albums, though. While I've never thought too much about it, since they're all quite different, I think a ranking of all the albums may look like this...

WS
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Judgement
WHBWH
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DS or Alternative 4
Natural Disaster
Silent Enigma
Fine Day to Exit
---
Eternity
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---
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Serenades

Apart from their debut, that's a really really strong discography.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 06:40:16 AM
Might be nice to rank them indeed. :) Right now I'm feeling something like this:

We're Here Because We're Here
Judgement
--
Distant Satellites
Alternative 4
A Natural Disaster
Weather Systems
The Silent Enigma
A Fine Day to Exit
Eternity
--
Serenades

Honestly, apart from WHBWH and Judgement being slightly closer to my heart and Serenades being my least favorite, the other are all VERY even for me. I really like them all. Even Eternity and A Fine Day.. which are closer to the bottom, I really do like both of those albums, very much. Serenades is just kinda there. It's hard for me to analyze that album. If you compare something like On the Sunday of Life with the rest of the PT catalog, you can find certain elements that you recognize and appreciate it from that angle. With Serenades, Vinny doesn't sing, the music is VERY different and it just feels like another band. On The Silent Enigma they were still heavy, but Vinny started singing, and it feels like an Anathema album.

Maybe I should revisit Pentecost and Crestfallen. I like the new versions of those songs, but I haven't listened to those releases that much.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 11, 2014, 11:19:53 AM
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't "Anathema" written like 15-20 years ago? Or something odd like that. I would imagine the first "draft" was very different from the final version though. I will say that "You're Not Alone" really does sound like a song that was written during A Natural Disaster or something. Like a long lost twin-song to Closer. If you think about it, A Natural Disaster had some electronic ideas on it. It felt like they were gonna go down that road, but after the 7 year hiatus it felt like they almost had to re-establish themselves with some strong albums again, which they did. And now they made another album, teasing to go deeper into electronics. Personally I hope this album gets a good reception (so far it has) and that the band is encouraged to continue down that road.

indeed, this album has a bunch of old songs that were resurrected, and "Anathema" is one of them.

you're totally right about AND being the genesis of their electronic ideas. i'm surprised no one else brought it up... the opening of the record is basically Kid A with live drumming. then "The Storm Before the Calm" returned to that approach, but for some reason DS is being called their first foray into electronic music. it's the first occurrence of proper programmed beats but otherwise it follows a side they've had for years now.

the end of "You're Not Alone" especially suits the aesthetic of AND. i wonder if its detractors dislike that album as well? (granted, i understand the song has an annoyance factor otherwise not included on AND.)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 11:47:25 AM
I see your point with The Storm Before the Calm and I do agree. It feels like they have sorta ramped it up though. They had some of it in ONE song on Weather Systems, they have more of it in 3-4 songs on Distant Satellites, and maybe the next album has even more. Regarding A Natural Disaster and how people view it, I don't know. I've seen several people who got into Anathema after their Kscope-resurrection (WHBWH and forward), who seem to mainly just focus on the new stuff, so like Hindsight, WHBWH, Falling Deeper, WS and now DS. Maybe they have heard some of the older albums, but don't care as much for them.

I know there are some "newer" fans who are into the old stuff as well, and there's old fans who aren't into the new stuff. So their fanbase seems very scattered at the moment. I wasn't a fan when A Natural Disaster came out, so I don't know how it was received at the time. Did the electronics bother people back then?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 11, 2014, 12:05:23 PM
Honestly I probably couldn't rank the last three albums. They each have so many amazing facets to them that I pretty much love them equally, as they're making music that just essentially sounds perfect to me. There are flaws, but I love the style and approach to music so much that I just look past them for the most part.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 11, 2014, 01:34:49 PM
Honestly I probably couldn't rank the last three albums. They each have so many amazing facets to them that I pretty much love them equally, as they're making music that just essentially sounds perfect to me. There are flaws, but I love the style and approach to music so much that I just look past them for the most part.
I swear sometimes I think you're basically me. We seem to have so much in common in our music tastes!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 03:46:19 PM
I know what you guys mean and I can sort of relate. I know I come down on Weather Systems hard some times but I really do like the album. Sometimes I get frustrated when something is good but could easily have been even better with a few alterations, and I also tend to notice the flaws (even if they sometimes doesn't matter that much).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on June 11, 2014, 03:50:48 PM
I try not to do what you do Zantera because I'll ruin my listening experience. (My own fault!)  If I tend to play an album over and over it means I like the hell out of it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 11, 2014, 04:20:01 PM
The first song I ever heard was 'Deep'. The album Judgement didn't appeal to me back then, now it still doesn't do much for me.
With A Natural Disaster, I at least made it through, and it was always a nice occasional spin.
When WHBWH came out, I instantly thought it was their greatest achievement yet.

I always knew about the band since Judgement, but I really think they're getting better and more professional with each new record.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 11, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
They seem to think so too, which has me constantly excited for anything they put out in the future.   :smiley:

I know it may not be the most popular opinion, but I think that You're Not Alone is fantastic. It just makes me want to dance like a lunatic. It may be my least favorite song on the album, but it's only a hair behind Lost Song Part One.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2014, 05:41:46 PM
I've taken some days off from listening to it (because I don't wanna overplay it), but I plan on spinning it during the weekend again. I find myself walking around the apartment and just start humming along to different melodies on the album, so after 4-5 listens I guess that's a really good sign.  :D

I would probably say this is a top3 release for 2014 out of the ~50 albums I've heard so far. I think that's quite impressive considering how much good stuff has been released.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 11, 2014, 06:45:43 PM
I've taken some days off from listening to it (because I don't wanna overplay it), but I plan on spinning it during the weekend again. I find myself walking around the apartment and just start humming along to different melodies on the album, so after 4-5 listens I guess that's a really good sign.  :D
I keep getting sections stuck in my head out of nowhere too, definitely a good sign!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 11, 2014, 08:45:08 PM
I've taken some days off from listening to it (because I don't wanna overplay it), but I plan on spinning it during the weekend again. I find myself walking around the apartment and just start humming along to different melodies on the album, so after 4-5 listens I guess that's a really good sign.  :D
I keep getting sections stuck in my head out of nowhere too, definitely a good sign!
The last chorus and the solo of Anathema was stuck on my head for a whole damn day. Damn epic track, I can't think of a better song to self-title it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 13, 2014, 03:52:47 AM
GB dates finally  :coolio

(https://i.imgur.com/imh9Xw1.jpg)

Will definitely be popping along to the Glasgow show. A few people in the comments of the Facebook post speculating that Tesseract might be the support. Now that would be awesome  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 13, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
That would be outrageously good, but they seem like VERY different bands...

Great that the London show is on a Friday! :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 13, 2014, 04:26:48 AM
Am I the only one who finds it weird that they aren't playing in their home city?  :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 13, 2014, 04:38:55 AM
Good news for you all! I look forward to getting a North American tour announced eventually, but I'm not holding my breath

That would be outrageously good, but they seem like VERY different bands...

Yeah- TesseracT and Anathema would be a really odd pairing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 13, 2014, 09:18:28 AM
I don't know if there are even any good venues for them in Liverpool, but I'm sure they'll play there at some point.

EDIT: Ok turns out there are quite a few. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 13, 2014, 11:06:10 AM
I bought the album today and will listen to it later :) I find it cool that Jamie finally got a writing credit on a song after all these years with the band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 13, 2014, 11:19:38 AM
anyone get The Lost Song pt. 3 digital single? "Coda" sounds somewhat familiar... (the remix is pretty lame though)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 13, 2014, 01:19:11 PM
Ok, I listened to Distant Satellites and it left a way better first impression than Weather Systems. I like the more melancholic vibe, and the first two parts of The Lost Song, Ariel and Anathema really stood out. I think one of the reasons I was sort of disappointed by WS was that the songs that were released before the album (Untouchable Pt. 1 and The Beginning and the End) ended up being my favorites and nothing else felt as good, but on DS the song that was released as a preview of the album (The Lost Song Pt. 3) isn't one of the highlights. The only song I don't like yet is You're Not Alone, but I could see DS becoming one of my top 4 Anathema albums after more listens. Also, one of the things I paid attention to was Vinnie's vocal performance - he's always been a great singer, but there are some pretty intense vocal moments on this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 13, 2014, 01:52:16 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly great vocal moments for me are the last line in "Anathema", when he enters in "Ariel" and the last part of "Dusk".
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 13, 2014, 03:42:30 PM
This is one of those albums with a lot of details put into it, you can really tell. I've heard it 6-7 times now and I discovered during Lost Song Pt1 that there's a more quiet part kicking in where you hear Lee sing parts of Lost Song Part 2 vaguely in the background. For some reason I didn't pick up on this little detail the first times I heard it, but it's one of those small details that helps connecting the songs nicely.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on June 13, 2014, 04:43:26 PM
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on June 13, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Pretty good stuff.
:tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 13, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Freaking awesome stuff.
FTFM.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 13, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
Honestly I probably couldn't rank the last three albums. They each have so many amazing facets to them that I pretty much love them equally, as they're making music that just essentially sounds perfect to me. There are flaws, but I love the style and approach to music so much that I just look past them for the most part.
I swear sometimes I think you're basically me. We seem to have so much in common in our music tastes!

This is so true. And it doesn't stop at music taste, either!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 14, 2014, 02:18:14 AM
True. Bow ties are cool too!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 14, 2014, 03:28:35 AM
Just started listening to Weather Systems. Pretty good stuff.

Weather systems is incredible.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 14, 2014, 09:04:15 AM
https://www.facebook.com/duncanpatterson.music

Duncan Patterson's band Alternative 4 are supporting Anathema on their Irish dates in September. I wonder if he'll join them on stage for a song or two...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 14, 2014, 09:30:58 AM
https://www.facebook.com/duncanpatterson.music

Duncan Patterson's band Alternative 4 are supporting Anathema on their Irish dates in September. I wonder if he'll join them on stage for a song or two...

That would actually be cool to see.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 14, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
The song 'Distant Satellites' opens up a possible new path to delve into. That's a freakin' EDM track and it's absolutely amazing.

EDM?

 :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 14, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
I think I like his drumming better than John Douglas' drumming already.

John and Danny told him what to do, he's not credited for writing the drum tracks nor did they write
the songs in the studio - all pre-planned.

Les Smith and John on drums was the best set-up, Patterson on bass as well though Jamie has done a good job this time espeically.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 14, 2014, 03:01:06 PM
Finally bought the album, but I've already heard it and I absolutely love it. I was expecting to be very similar to WS and WHBWH, but I think that especially the second of the album is more different than I expected. The title track is my favourite so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Jamesman42 on June 14, 2014, 05:04:51 PM
It gets pretty cheesy at times, not surprised or bothered by it.

I like the shift at the end, albums don't do that very often the way Anathema did with DS, so it's cool. I like it, though I can see why a mod like Areich would say it fizzles out.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 14, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
It's grown on me, for sure. The songs themselves are lovely, as I said before.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on June 14, 2014, 09:57:15 PM
It's pronounced "Anne theme uh" right?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on June 14, 2014, 10:11:31 PM
It's pronounced "Anne theme uh" right?

ah-NATH-ah-muh
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on June 14, 2014, 10:22:42 PM
Damn, I was hoping it was like Diplodocus.

You know, Dip low dock us.

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 15, 2014, 04:14:40 AM
I've been saying Anna-them-a   pretty much since day one  :blush

But I also mis-prononce neil peart's last name, the word nuclear and countless other things  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 15, 2014, 04:57:36 AM
We've been pronouncing it as Anna-theme-ah for years.. I know it's wrong haha.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 15, 2014, 05:53:06 AM
We've been pronouncing it as Anna-theme-ah for years.. I know it's wrong haha.
Same here. :lol The first time I realised I was saying it wrong was when I saw them supporting Opeth a couple of years ago and Danny said "We're Anathema", prounouncing it the correct way. I still always read it the wrong way in my head though. Same with Haken - which is meant to rhyme with 'bacon' - but I always say it as if it rhymes with 'blacken'.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 15, 2014, 06:02:14 AM
Crap

I've been pronouncing Haken wrong too. But its probably just because I really like Bacon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on June 15, 2014, 10:11:22 AM
Prog bands these days - picking one-word names that no one can pronounce right. I guess all the easier ones have been taken for years now: Rush, Yes, Genesis, Camel, Caravan, Marillion, Supertramp, Kansas, Boston, Chicago, Asia...wait...those aren't prog bands. Either way, I think it's funny how both Anathema and Haken, two of today's biggest prog bands, have one-word names that are often mispronounced, and I'll admit to not knowing how to pronounce either until recent months.

I said Anathema as "Anne-uh-theme-uh" and Haken as "Hock-en" (like the Haken Continuum that Rudess uses). I never would have guessed "Uh-nath-ema" and "Hay-ken".

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 15, 2014, 11:06:36 AM
To be fair, Anathema is a real word, not just something the band made up.
I pronounced it as anna-THEY-ma too until my dad corrected me. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 15, 2014, 11:56:18 AM
Yeah, I pronounced it Anna-they-ma when I first got into them, but then I heard the word pronounced correctly on the radio.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 15, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
To be fair, Anathema is a real word, not just something the band made up.
I pronounced it as anna-THEY-ma too until my dad corrected me. :lol
Yeah exactly, it's a word that unfortunately a lot of people just don't know because people don't, on the whole, have very good vocab these days. Fair enough for people who don't have English as a first language of course!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on June 15, 2014, 12:43:58 PM
Personal attack, bant!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Scorpion on June 15, 2014, 03:42:28 PM
So I finally got around to listening to Judgement, and it's awesome. Far far better than either WHBWH or WS, which I don't really like at all.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 15, 2014, 05:08:05 PM
So I finally got around to listening to Judgement, and it's awesome. Far far better than either WHBWH or WS, which I don't really like at all.

Judgement is one of their best! Amazing album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Scorpion on June 15, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
Yeah, I'd agree. The fact that everyone gushes over both WHBWH and WS, whereas I find them pretty boring and bland just hindered me from checking out their earlier stuff, I guess. Should have done so sooner!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 15, 2014, 06:00:37 PM
Yeah, I'd agree. The fact that everyone gushes over both WHBWH and WS, whereas I find them pretty boring and bland just hindered me from checking out their earlier stuff, I guess. Should have done so sooner!

If you like Judgement you might like Alternative 4 and A Natural Disaster as well. Both are more to the dark side of their sound. And maybe if you start getting into their older albums, the new ones could click for you. You never know.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 16, 2014, 05:10:05 AM
I still haven't listened to Judgement. I like Alternative 4 but WS is my favorite followed by WHBWH. I can't describe feeling I have while listening those two albums :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 16, 2014, 05:12:57 AM
I still haven't listened to Judgement. I like Alternative 4 but WS is my favorite followed by WHBWH. I can't describe feeling I have while listening those two albums :)

I think the words you're looking for is "emotional boner"  :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 16, 2014, 05:15:58 AM
I still haven't listened to Judgement. I like Alternative 4 but WS is my favorite followed by WHBWH. I can't describe feeling I have while listening those two albums :)

I think the words you're looking for is "emotional boner"  :angel:
That's it :P
While listening to WS I'm sad and happy at the same time :')
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on June 16, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Distant Satellites live drum cam : https://youtu.be/yvl5G22qhJU
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The King in Crimson on June 16, 2014, 08:56:36 PM
Man, this new album is really underwhelming.  I've listened to it a couple of times but it's just not doing much for me. The first half sounds like the last couple of Anathema albums right down to how "The Lost Song" apes "Untouchable" from WS, except "Untouchable" was good.  "Anathema" and "Ariel" are pretty damn good and probably the best on the album. The second, electronic half just seems to be missing something. "Distant Satellites" just kinda goes on and on and doesn't really go anywhere. "You're Not Alone" at least has an identity, it's just too bad I don't much care for it. "Take Shelter" and "Firelight" are just kinda there.

As of right now, I'd put this one under most of their other releases except MAYBE Eternity and The Silent Enigma. Maybe this will grow on me, but right now, color me unimpressed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 17, 2014, 12:20:04 AM
Distant Satellites live drum cam : https://youtu.be/yvl5G22qhJU
Wow, thanks for that. I REALLY like his drumming!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 17, 2014, 01:47:21 AM
I'm still happy with the album. The electronics give a nice breath of fresh air in their music. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on June 17, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Yeah, still loving it myself as well. Really like how the album shifts towards the end, and I think the title track is the most atmospheric song on the record, honestly.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sketchy on June 17, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
It's a good album, but I have to admit, I find myself liking their harder edged approach on Alternative 4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 17, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
Since my stereo doesn't play cds anymore, I popped this album in my PS3 and connecting my tv to the stereo. I found an awesome visual of the Earth spinning and it fits the album perfectly.

Awesome album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tomislav95 on June 17, 2014, 04:31:43 PM
Electronic elements remind me of Archive.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Cyclopssss on June 18, 2014, 03:30:28 AM
As much as I loved WS and am loving We´re here because we´re here, Distant Sattelites doesn´t do all that much for me, sorry.
In fact I find it rather bland.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 18, 2014, 03:50:49 AM
As much as I loved WS and am loving We´re here because we´re here, Distant Sattelites doesn´t do all that much for me, sorry.
In fact I find it rather bland.

That makes two of us.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 18, 2014, 08:20:05 AM
The album title is perfect,  it feels as if I'm the satellite slowly zooming away from Earth
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 20, 2014, 05:09:19 PM
Best release of the year so far for me. This is exactly how I like my Anathema (first half) and the electronic stuff is a nice change for them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on June 20, 2014, 05:48:54 PM
I got my CD/BR from CD Japan this week, played it once on my ipod and once in 5.1.
It's all very nice, but I have a lot of trouble differentiating between the songs.
It pretty much is the same tempo/feel on every song.
I had the TV on whilst played the 5.1 BR and I had to keep flicking to see what song it was.

I far prefer the older A4/Judgement era material, but this stuff is good, but perhaps the 3rd album in a row of too similar material.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 20, 2014, 06:13:13 PM
The Lost Song is amazing. A great spiritual successor to Untouchable.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on June 21, 2014, 01:22:05 AM
I love The Lost Song Part 1 and 2. Part 3 just seems unnecessary.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on June 21, 2014, 05:30:56 AM
I've been out of the loop for way too long, just bought the album and am listening to The Lost Song Part 1 now.
 :heart :metal :hefdaddy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Scorpion on June 21, 2014, 06:28:24 AM
So if I like Alternative 4, Judgement and Eternity, but don't like We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems, will I like the most recent one?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 21, 2014, 07:10:47 AM
I wouldn't guarantee it, but the new one definitely has a darker vibe than WHBWH and WS had. For some reason Distant Satellites make me think of a warm summer night by the bonfire instead of a warm summer day at the ocean (like WHBWH/WS does).

If you haven't checked out A Natural Disaster yet, that one could be more up your alley though. Closer to Alternative 4 and Judgement.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on June 21, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
So if I like Alternative 4, Judgement and Eternity, but don't like We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems, will I like the most recent one?
Probably not, it still feels like material left from the previous two that they revisited and changed up for a large part of the album. I only listened to it once, but unlike the previous albums nothing in it makes me want to check it out again. Maybe it will change after a few months but for now I have absolutely no desire to listen to it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 21, 2014, 11:02:08 AM
I skipped the first two tracks on first listen, because I just didn't feel like it. Upon skipping through them, it sounded exactly like an Untouchables (A song I'm not too fond of) copy: part 1 is uptempo and builds to a large crescendo, and part two is the slowed down part for Lee.

Since I've been listening to the entire album, I have to say that 'The Lost Song' is far ahead from 'Untouchables'. It doesn't have that annoying 'I'm so happy I want to cry' feeling; instead it has a dark vibe and an urgency to it that I really love. Also in part 2 when she sings 'Can't believe it was just an illiusion' with the dramatic strings behind is is pretty darn epic.

Part 3 doesn't seem unnecessary to me, it feels like a sort of epilogue to parts 1 and 2, but less obvious and unconventional.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 21, 2014, 11:06:05 AM
I actually really love how they structure those songs. Similar to how they did on Eternity with the title track there, but I really love their 2-3 part songs. Untouchable and now The Lost Song, I really love it. Doesn't bother me that they follow a structure of the first one being more up tempo and the second being a calmer song with more Lee vocals. To be honest, if the next album doesn't have a song with several parts, I'll actually be slightly sad for a moment since I've gotten used to it now. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 21, 2014, 12:59:15 PM
I like both Untouchables and The Lost Songs, but the next album should be opened in a different way instead of a two-part suite to avoid predictability.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 21, 2014, 04:45:40 PM
You could still change up the formula even if you have a two-part suite. It doesn't have to follow the same tradition. You could start with a calm song leading into an up tempo one. :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xenon on June 21, 2014, 04:57:46 PM
The first half of the album doesn't do anything for me. It's just more of the same. One  time was refreshing, now it's repetitive, too much sugar, too much vicent singing"I looove" "Flyyyy" and things like that. Too chesy at this point. The second Half it gets better even though i did not like that much the title song, but at least they try new things. It's not a great second half, like Weather Systems, but I can enjoy it.
Anathema and You're not Alone the Highlights of the album for me.

BTW, hello everyone  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on June 21, 2014, 05:33:40 PM
I like both Untouchables and The Lost Songs, but the next album should be opened in a different way instead of a two-part suite to avoid predictability.

Ditto, Untouchables was the songs that sold me on the band and happened to be the first songs I ever heard from them. It was love at first listen.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: adace on June 25, 2014, 05:37:21 AM
Lost Song Pt. 2 acoustic clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 25, 2014, 06:08:34 AM
This album turned to be a grower and in time I think I might end up liking it more than WS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 25, 2014, 07:01:44 AM
After a couple of listens I can say that this album doesn't live up to the 2 previous ones. Although the last part brings a new feeling with the electronic elements the first half sounds a lot like they were just repeating the formula and while there are some songs that I really like overall I don't get those intense feelings Anathema normally generates.

This album turned to be a grower and in time I think I might end up liking it more than WS.

I don't know if I will ever end up liking it more than WS, but I sure do love growers!  :) and glad to see that you're happy with it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xenon on June 25, 2014, 08:14:16 AM
Lost Song Pt. 2 acoustic clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGvpY74MCU)
Better that album version IMO
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: OsMosis2259 on June 25, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
I don't really have anything different than what the others have already said but I'm really loving this album  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on June 25, 2014, 07:17:44 PM
i do hear what someone said elsewhere, the girl singing hits the grand ole opry on i think its Ariel or Lost Song Pt 2 and theres one word she sings thats no
really a 'bum' note but screeches.

i would say without a doubt the first half is repetitive going by WS but the lost song pt3 is the strongest of that trio, more power in it.
The only things l like about the first half are the bass players sound and his playing plus that rhythm on the lost songs, particularly prominent
on part 3, off kilter beat, whoever came up with that should be credited, if it was their session drummer then give him the credit, its owns the song.

The entire album thoughis repetitive in the... lyrics.

Theres bits n bobs from albums going back to 1998 rehashed, its marketing anathema at its shallow'ist.

yes, they are just words, "hold on" nothing unusual about that (AFDTE) but this is anathema and this how they phrase within the context of 'emotional'.

believe, love and feel, inside, yea yea, its become boring but then again they're aiming for radio and want it so bad, on ye go, don't say we didn't warn ye.

Their guitarist says, this is natural, they're not doing it to gain popularity, money, fame etc - completer bollicks. That guy has his eyes on the bag of money and will hold it tight. They do sincerely love what they do thought but they can't deny their musical direction and choice to go that way is to appeal and spread their work
for recognition.... recognition, granted many want it for their hard work = fame.

So, yea complete bollicks there. They aren't ever going to be a Radiohead or a Coldplay, they're thinking too much about that and getting confused within a 'what might work' Faithless/Moby come Sigur Ros kind of way. This was a band i thought were different but are becoming more and more predictable. No, electronics are not surprising.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 25, 2014, 07:45:08 PM
I forgot the actual emoticon code, so I have to improvise

 :facepalm:+ :lol

Seriously though, what did you hope to accomplish with that post?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on June 25, 2014, 09:16:37 PM
:lolpalm:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on June 25, 2014, 09:26:33 PM
Lee Douglas' vibrato is kind of annoying, but I wouldn't mind a solo album from her. Great voice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 26, 2014, 12:14:57 AM
If Anathema want to go mainstream, why don't they just write 3-minute songs with the verse-chorus formula? It's not like the album is full of radio singles.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Orthogonal on June 26, 2014, 02:57:40 AM
If Anathema want to go mainstream, why don't they just write 3-minute songs with the verse-chorus formula? It's not like the album is full of radio singles.

If they sell out by using industry standard lamo formulaic songs then they would just sound like every other garden variety band and would more than likely fail in the process by alienating their fanbase. Their unique brand of building and climaxing a song is an endearing and special quality.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 26, 2014, 03:53:03 AM
Becoming mainstream or successful doesn't just have to do with what kind of music you make though. It's not just about starting to write formulaic songs that would fit on the radio. At this point, I think it's safe to say that Anathema will never become one of those bands like Radiohead or Coldplay, but with that said they don't need to. And personally I like their songwriting more, and would say they are miles above Coldplay quality-wise, so I can't complain.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 27, 2014, 09:55:22 AM
Anathema is nominated in a few categories at the Prog Awards: https://awards.progmagazine.com/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 27, 2014, 07:58:01 PM
Voted for them on the three options. Their last album is great, their self-titled song is even greater and, well, they're great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on June 28, 2014, 04:23:27 AM
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on June 28, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.
They actually have two albums on there for Album of the Year that haven't even been released yet (Knifeworld and Yes), and voting has started already.  :facepalm:

And not to mention the complete lack of diversity in each category.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 28, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.
They actually have two albums on there for Album of the Year that haven't even been released yet (Knifeworld and Yes), and voting has started already.  :facepalm:
Really? That's ridiculous :facepalm:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xenon on June 28, 2014, 10:33:14 AM
Holy crap those prog awards are a joke.
^This
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 28, 2014, 10:50:51 AM
In their defense, most awards are a joke.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on July 12, 2014, 05:33:32 PM
I've listened to DS again today (it's been a few weeks) and holy crap, The Lost Song pt.1 and pt.2 are more awesome than I remember. It must happen a miracle to dethrone it as my AOTY.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on July 13, 2014, 04:11:20 PM
Gonna see them live for the fourth time next weekend at the Night of the Prog festival :D I hope they play some great stuff from DS!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 13, 2014, 05:48:11 PM
Gonna see them live for the fourth time next weekend at the Night of the Prog festival :D I hope they play some great stuff from DS!

lucky! I've seen them once and for that I feel incredibly blessed, but I most certainly do hope for more in the future! They just need to make it over the pond again and I'll make the trip(s)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Harmony on July 16, 2014, 06:27:17 PM
Lee Douglas' vibrato is kind of annoying, but I wouldn't mind a solo album from her. Great voice.

As a singer (well, shower singer) myself, when I first got into Ananthema, I felt the same way about her vibrato.  But then it really grew on me and now I love it for its uniqueness and the way it pairs with Vincent and Daniel's voice.  She comes across as almost timid at times.  I don't know if it is not to overshadow or because she's trying to blend, but it would be great to see what she could come up with as a solo offering from her. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on July 23, 2014, 01:03:20 PM
I forgot the actual emoticon code, so I have to improvise

 :facepalm:+ :lol

Seriously though, what did you hope to accomplish with that post?

everyone has a right to their opinion, its a forum, nobody is out to accomplish anything other than voicing their opinon, whether its up your a** and you don't like that up to you but its obvious it is, so unless of you feel your own words are those of wisdom you should refrain from sark lark.

oh look, i've i low post count, you're an elitist prick?

btw and not one to gloat but here we go... i saw this band in... 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 2002, i think i know what i'm talking about and i'm right, in fact i'm bang on the money. you wouldn't hear that of course cos you're not actually 'listening'.

and no, we don't want doom/death here or sleepless revisits, you just don't get it.



Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: master on July 23, 2014, 01:08:22 PM
and i still think, the title track Distant Satellites, while not a bad song (for someone else it would suit), its not a good move for Anathema.

not to sound homophobic or anything for which i ain't but he sounds transgender, the track just moves very r'nb not at all rock, or even clever 'prog' rock.

time will tell. a very strange song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ThatOneGuy2112 on July 23, 2014, 01:44:09 PM
You know, I occasionally only browse and lurk in this thread, hoping to jump in and contribute whenever I finally do end up checkout out Anathema but man....

:lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on July 23, 2014, 03:02:18 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2014, 03:48:27 PM
its a forum, nobody is out to accomplish anything other than voicing their opinon

Not true. I'm out to find new music.



I wasn't going for the :lolpalm: because I don't agree with your opinion. And definitely not because you were voicing that opinion. It was just how you did it. For example:

btw and not one to gloat but here we go... i saw this band in... 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 97, 98 and 2002, i think i know what i'm talking about and i'm right, in fact i'm bang on the money. you wouldn't hear that of course cos you're not actually 'listening'.

Cool that you saw them 8 times, that's really exciting. But are you expecting a serious response from that? What could I possibly say?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on July 23, 2014, 04:02:48 PM
Master of Comedy
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on July 23, 2014, 04:08:35 PM
On a brighter note, I wasn't entirely sure how much I liked the new album until an hour ago. Listening in the dark, an hour before midnight, just made the album click hard. Every song absolutely shines in that setting. I'm not even sure anymore what my favourite song is, even though an hour ago I would have said Anathema without a second thought.

Really looking forward to seeing them live for the second time in October!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
It's interesting that you mention listening late at night. I think that definitely makes for a good DS listen. On the other hand, I've always felt that WHBWH and WS really come to life during the daytime. I used to put WHBWH on first thing every morning.

whenever I finally do end up checkout out Anathema.

Do it!  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on July 23, 2014, 04:51:52 PM
I've got a playlist for Anathema, and I've heard a few of their songs, but I've never given an actual full listen to any of their albums. Anybody have any recommendations on what album would be best?

I've heard a lot of different opinions on the new album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2014, 04:56:52 PM
If you want happy I would suggest starting with We're Here Because We're Here (even though I prefer Weather Systems, for the most part).

If you want something moodier I'd suggest Judgement.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on July 23, 2014, 04:58:48 PM
I've listened to Judgement, We're Here Because We're Here, Weather Systems, and Distant Satellites, and the last two are definitely the best them. I just like the symphonic atmospheric stuff better. Plus Lee Douglas is more involved, and adds so much to the sound.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on July 23, 2014, 05:27:57 PM
Thanks. I'll start with Judgement and Weather Systems for now.

EDIT: Just finished the albums. I preferred Judgement, mostly because of the gloomy tone of the album. I really did love both albums though; the female vocals do add a nice texture to the songs, and there are some beautiful melodies. Lots of emotion in both albums, and both are on my "To buy" list. I'll have to give it more listens before I pass judgment (heh) on individual tracks. I'll definitely be listening to the new album soon.

This band is phenomenal.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 23, 2014, 08:49:13 PM
If you prefer the gloomy stuff, Alternative 4 is a good next step for you :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on July 23, 2014, 08:59:52 PM
Thanks man. I'll check that out too, though I'll probably listen through their discography before too long ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on July 24, 2014, 01:26:11 AM
It's interesting that you mention listening late at night. I think that definitely makes for a good DS listen. On the other hand, I've always felt that WHBWH and WS really come to life during the daytime. I used to put WHBWH on first thing every morning.


I agree about Weather Systems, but I think WHBWH is the perfect soundtrack for a sunset (or probably a sunrise, but I've never had the chance to listen to it so early).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 24, 2014, 02:26:57 AM
Do you have some favourite songs by Anathema? I prefer listening to their full albums but my favorite standalone tracks would be Deep, A Simple Mistake and The Beginning and the end (those lyrics :heart )
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 24, 2014, 02:32:38 AM
If I were to make a top15 Anathema songs, these would surely be on there: (no particular order)

Universal
Thin Air
A Simple Mistake
Anathema
Distant Satellites
The Lost Song (Part 1 + Part 2 + Part 3)
Internal Landscapes
Untouchable (Part 1 + Part 2)
Flying
A Fine Day to Exit
Temporary Peace
One Last Goodbye
Emotional Winter
Regret
A Dying Wish

And that's still with some minor cheating and leaving off some really good ones
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tomislav95 on July 24, 2014, 02:41:19 AM
I don't know some of those because I don't have all of their albums but I'll check them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 24, 2014, 03:04:37 AM
Two way tie at the top with Internal Landscapes and One Last Goodbye, for me!

After that it becomes much more difficult

It's interesting that you mention listening late at night. I think that definitely makes for a good DS listen. On the other hand, I've always felt that WHBWH and WS really come to life during the daytime. I used to put WHBWH on first thing every morning.
I agree about Weather Systems, but I think WHBWH is the perfect soundtrack for a sunset (or probably a sunrise...

Makes sense
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on July 24, 2014, 05:16:50 AM
'Pulled Under at 2000 Metres a Second' was my favourite for quite a while, but I think I'd have to say 'A Simple Mistake' is my #1 now. Loving 'Anathema' at the moment though, that will probably end up in my top 3.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on July 24, 2014, 09:24:06 AM
Ariel really grew on me and is becoming one of my favorites.


Dreaming Light is still #1 for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 24, 2014, 10:00:41 AM
I think it's a little too early to throw the new album's songs in with the rest, but it's never too early for this kind of an exercise  :D

:scio:
Distant Satellites
Dusk (Darkness is Descending)
---------------------------------------
 :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
Lost Song Pt. 2
Anathema
Ariel
Lost Song Pt. 1
--------------------------------------
 :heart :heart :heart
You're Not Alone
Take Shelter
Lost Song Pt. 3
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 24, 2014, 11:27:54 AM
I'll follow in your footsteps:

Distant Satellites
Anathema
The Lost Song Pt. 2
The Lost Song Pt. 3
The Lost Song Pt. 1
-------
Firelight
Take Shelter
Dusk (Darkness is Descending)
Ariel
-------
You're Not Alone
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on July 24, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Pfff....  here we go.

Distant Satellites
Anathema
Ariel
The Lost Song Pt. 2
The Lost Song Pt. 1
Take Shelter
You're Not Alone
Dusk (Darkness is Descending)
The Lost Song Pt. 3
Firelight
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 24, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
Distant Satellites
The Lost Song 2
The Lost Song 1
Ariel
Anathema
Dusk
Take Shelter
The Lost Song 3
You're Not Alone
Firelight
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on July 24, 2014, 02:33:46 PM
Tier 1  :tup :hefdaddy :metal :heart :coolio :tup -
Anathema
Ariel
----------
Tier 2  :tup :coolio :tup -
The Lost Song - Just grouped this together as one as I'm struggling to separate them at the moment. They'd all go into this tier though.
----------
Tier 3 :tup :tup -
Dusk (Dark is Descending)
You're Not Alone
-----------
Tier 4  :tdwn :sad: -
Take Shelter
Distant Satellites
Firelight

As you can probably tell from that list, the album kind of goes out with a whimper for me sadly :lol Still love it as a whole though. Keep meaning to play around with the order to come up with something a bit more balanced.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ColdFireYYZ on July 24, 2014, 04:30:27 PM
Ariel
Distant Satellites
The Lost Song, Part Two
The Lost Song, Part One
Dusk (Dark is Descending)
Take Shelter
The Lost Song, Part Three
Anathema
Firelight
You're Not Alone
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on July 24, 2014, 05:05:31 PM
Anathema is the single greatest song I've heard this year. Nothing more to say.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on July 24, 2014, 05:50:30 PM
Distant Satellites

Take Shelter (seriously underrated)
The Lost Song pt. 1
Anathema
The Lost Song pt. 3
Ariel
The Lost Song pt. 2

Dusk (Dark Is Descending)
Firelight
You're Not Alone
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 25, 2014, 12:01:45 AM
"Anathema" really sounds like a mix of something from A Natural Disaster and something from We're Here Because We're Here. I know the band hinted that the song was even older than that. I just love it though. How that guitar kicks in at the end, the song has that anthem-feel to it. The outro reminds me a lot of how Flying is constructed, with a similar idea and having the outro just explode.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on July 25, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Ariel
Anathema
The Lost Song 1
The Lost Song 2
------
Dusk (Dark is Descending)
The Lost Song 3
Distant Satellites
------
Take Shelter
Firelight
You're Not Alone

It's all great though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ich bin besser on July 25, 2014, 12:54:14 PM
Btw, they were GREAT at last weekend's Night of the Prog.  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on July 25, 2014, 04:36:07 PM
Oh yeah, they were. Shame they seem to be playing rather static setlists the last few years. I've seen them four times now, and there are a lot of songs that were played on 3 or 4 of those occasions.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2014, 05:25:29 PM
Bummer  :P

I'm just waiting for them to gift the United States with another tour soon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 25, 2014, 05:31:48 PM
It's gonna be so nice finally getting to see them in November. I didn't think they would return to my city again, and after the miserable failure of missing that show (venue had 18 year old limit, it was 1 ½ week before my 18th birthday), I never thought I would get a chance to see them. Luckily I was wrong.  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Heretic on July 27, 2014, 12:27:03 AM
Distant Satelittes
Anathema
The Lost Song pt. 1
---
Ariel
The Lost Song pt. 2
Dusk (Dark is Descending)
The Lost Song pt. 3
---
You're Not Alone
Firelight 
Take Shelter
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 05, 2014, 07:22:16 AM
Lost Song Pt.3 gets way too much shit. I probably like 2 slightly more, but 3 is a close second.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 05, 2014, 07:29:56 AM
While it's probably on the lower half of things for me, I think it's still great. I think/hope that the lack of appreciation it gets is at least in part a testament to how great the rest of the album is. There's not a track on the album that I would even contemplate skipping, and that definitely includes Lost Song Pt. 3.

You're Not Alone definitely does get a lot of shit, though.  :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on August 21, 2014, 10:08:26 PM
Seeing them tonight in Sydney, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on August 23, 2014, 04:44:53 AM
 I'm an Anathema fan from the A4 days and have most of their albums, so when I found out they were coming to Australia, I was pretty excited.
Gig day and I find out a mate has a spare ticket, so it saved me $80.

The venue holds around 1000 and it was packed more than I had seen previous.
Anathema came onstage and from then on the crowd went nuts.
I have to admit that I didn't know a lot of the material as well as I could have, but enjoyed every song.

The sound was crisp clear and powerful, but not too loud. The lights were great and having the audience sings just about every word from every song made the evening even more magical.


Intro A New Machine (Part 1)
(Pink Floyd)

Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Thin Air
Sunlight
The Lost Song, Part 3
Anathema
Deep
The Storm Before the Calm
Universal
Closer
A Natural Disaster
Distant Satellites
A Simple Mistake

Encore:
Are You There? (Danny solo acoustic)
Parisienne Moonlight
One Last Goodbye
Fragile Dreams
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 23, 2014, 04:54:01 AM
There's a surprising lack of Distant Satellites songs, but I have a feeling they might play more of them for the Europe part. Was this their first time in Australia? Might explain the more "safer" setlist.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on August 23, 2014, 04:56:19 AM
Yeah first time here so as expected less new and more older stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 23, 2014, 06:21:18 AM
That's a fantastic setlist imo, even if a bit safe. I know Are You There? isnt the most popular choice but I love it. Easily my favorite song with Danny as the primary vocalist.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 24, 2014, 10:14:27 AM
According to setlist.fm they played Sleepless at the first Australian show. That must've been a nice treat for those who have been fans and waited for them to come for over 20 years.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on August 24, 2014, 01:35:34 PM
I love that setlist but the lack of DS kind of disturbs me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on August 24, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
IMO, it's kind of strange to see that they're playing an equal amount of songs from DS, WS, WHBWH, Judgement and A Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on August 25, 2014, 03:29:31 AM
Not really, if this is their first time playing down under.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Bargey on August 26, 2014, 02:21:47 AM
Intro A New Machine (Part 1)
(Pink Floyd)

Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Thin Air
Sunlight < THIS WAS DREAMING LIGHT NOT SUNLIGHT
The Lost Song, Part 3
Anathema
Deep
The Storm Before the Calm
Universal
Closer
A Natural Disaster
Distant Satellites
A Simple Mistake

Encore:
Are You There? (Danny solo acoustic)
Parisienne Moonlight
One Last Goodbye
Fragile Dreams
Absolutely sensational setlist if you ask me. My only disappointment was not getting Internal Landscapes.

I caught all three shows. All were based around the same setlist but had a different feel. The best sound was in Brisbane, the best performance was in Sydney, and the Melbourne show was sold out and to be honest the venue wasn't really great for a band that is so great to watch, it's just too packed and is much better suited to bands that pull 50-100 people, not 1000 odd. Despite being jetlagged they brought it every night, all the performances were first rate, it increased my appreciation of them as a band to see they were every bit as good live as in the studio. It also increased my appreciation of distant satellites and a few of the other tracks on the playlist. Vincent & Lee's vocals were amazing, absolutely jawdropping. The encores were slightly different each night, Brissy got Empty, One Last Goodbye, Fragile dreams & Sleepless (Vincent sung the first verse twice by accident on Empty and they pulled the pin on it early cause things unravelled after that). Sydney got Danny performing Are You There, then Danny & Lee doing Parisienne Moonlight together and then the rest of the band did One Last Goodbye and Fragile Dreams. Melbourne was just one long show with those same songs in a slightly different order and no encore. If you paid for the meet & Greet you got Danny, Vincent & Lee doing acoustic Dreaming Light, Fragile Dreams & Lost Song Part II, and I heard Brissy M&G people got 2 other songs as well, though I'm not sure what. All three were great shows, I'm not sure where I'd put them all time because they're my favourite band, have been for 20 years, and I'd be slightly biased :) Lets just say that my expectations were incredibly high and they were exceeded. I can't wait to see them again, and I'll probably go to multiple shows next time too without hesitation, hell I'd go see them again tonight if I could.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xenon on August 26, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
I came here to say "Deep" is their best song, but by the time I actually started to write "The begining and the end" started to play and I changed my mind about my original thought   :lol
Oh you, Anathema, Stop being so awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on August 26, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
I'm trying so hard to keep pronouncing the name as Uh NATH eh muh. It's hard, man. Anne UH Theme Uh rolls off the tongue better...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 13, 2014, 02:35:07 PM
Anathema is headlining progpower USA next year. Hopefully it will be one in a long string of NA dates.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 16, 2014, 09:30:00 AM
Duncan Patterson's Alternative 4 is releasing a new album The Obscurants this week. The previews sound pretty good:

Album trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVG6sOodEgY)
Lifeline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBGI6K9hl3k)
Dina (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=189hdVnM5VI)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 17, 2014, 02:58:38 AM
Thanks, adding that to my to-listen list :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on September 19, 2014, 07:21:56 AM
Did anyone happen to go to the Belfast show last night? I just had a look at setlist.fm and it says they only played 7 songs - which add up to less than 45minutes. That can't be right can it?  :-\

I'm seeing them in Glasgow on Sunday, I hope they play a lot more than that!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 19, 2014, 07:41:05 AM
I'm 100% sure that setlist is incomplete - here's a full one from Greece: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/principal-club-theatre-thessaloniki-greece-5bce5fec.html Looks like they're playing it safe for now... I haven't seen Anathema live yet so I don't mind, but it must be boring for longtime fans to hear all those songs over and over again.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 19, 2014, 07:47:19 AM
I've seen them four times now, and every time with almost the exact same setlist. That's why I won't go to their Holland show if the setlist for this tour is the same once again.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on September 19, 2014, 08:15:39 AM
I'm 100% sure that setlist is incomplete - here's a full one from Greece: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/principal-club-theatre-thessaloniki-greece-5bce5fec.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/principal-club-theatre-thessaloniki-greece-5bce5fec.html) Looks like they're playing it safe for now... I haven't seen Anathema live yet so I don't mind, but it must be boring for longtime fans to hear all those songs over and over again.
That's a bit more like it  ;D It is a bit of a shame when bands don't mix it up that much, that set has 6 of the 7 songs they played when I saw them support Opeth a couple of years ago. I'm not really bothered in this case though, I'm just excited to see them headline and hear some of the new songs live, so I'd be pleased with that Greek setlist.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Captain Reddot on September 27, 2014, 05:04:54 AM
I won tickets to see them yesterday, literally a few hours before doors opened. I'd heard The Storm Before The Calm before and remember seeing their name around a lot but never gave them a proper listen, so I wasn't too sure what to expect. I was really impressed with the quality of the songwriting - Untouchable brought me to tears upon hearing it first time. Instantly bought Distant Satellites and Weather Systems off Amazon upon arriving home.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 27, 2014, 07:46:44 AM
That sounds like quite the night! I'm glad that it brought tears to your eyes, even being the first time you'd listened to it. The boys and girl in Anathema truly are the masters of emotion  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on September 27, 2014, 01:46:50 PM
The boys and girl in Anathema truly are the masters of emotion  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on October 08, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
I saw Anathema in Milan two days ago, awesome concert!! In particular, the first 5 songs (Lost Song 1,2, Untouchable 1,2 and Thin Air) were incredibly emotional, maybe because we were very excited when they started to play or maybe because they are really some of their all time best songs. Closer and Fragile Dreams were the other highlights of the night in my opinion. After that night I like to listen more to Distant Satellites which I overlooked when it came out, being too similar to the previous albums. I recommend to anyone who haven't seen them live yet to do it when you can
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 09, 2014, 12:39:05 AM
I remember being afraid Anathema would drop all the pre-WHBWH songs from the setlist except Fragile Dreams, AND and Closer. Well, apparently I'd be a good clairvoyant: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/muziekcentrum-trix-antwerp-belgium-13cf69e1.html The absolute lack of songs from Judgement is pretty puzzling and sad. :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 09, 2014, 02:17:30 AM
Nothing from Judgement is kinda depressing, but overall the setlist is pretty good except for that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 09, 2014, 06:07:30 AM
Yeah I hope that doesn't become the norm. I really want to hear One Last Goodbye, Angelica, and Flying. Among others, of course
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 21, 2014, 01:20:23 PM
I thought this might interest some people:

Quote
2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...

Sounds intriguing
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 21, 2014, 01:29:18 PM
More variety in live setlists is always a plus for me. It's nice to hear some of the classics, and a tour will always be representative of the album it is supporting, but all in all I enjoy bands mixing it up.

Not too long until I get to see them live, just 1 ½ week or so. Getting pretty excited.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on October 21, 2014, 04:48:27 PM
I thought this might interest some people:

Quote
2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...

Sounds intriguing
That sounds good, I might actually go to see them live again if they change up their setlist!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on October 21, 2014, 05:10:17 PM
I thought this might interest some people:

Quote
2015 is going to represent a year of diverse live performances for Anathema. With some major surprising news coming soon -- as well as new unchartered territory with the UK Cathedral concerts -- we are beginning to focus on the bands entire catalogue, including material going back to our roots...

Sounds intriguing
That sounds good, I might actually go to see them live again if they change up their setlist!

I sure hope they come back to the US for another headline tour. It was such a memorable experience.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 22, 2014, 03:12:14 AM
Duncan Patterson also posted this on his FB page:
Quote
Some interesting news just in.
Announcement tomorrow!
On top of that, he briefly changed his cover photo to a pic of the original Anathema line-up. Maybe this is hinting at some kind of anniversary show/tour where ex-members make appearances? I'd be happy even if they just played more Alt 4/Judgement songs than they do now, but revisiting the first three albums isn't a bad idea either. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on October 22, 2014, 09:32:51 AM
If they do a gig or even better yet a tour with of only Alternative 4/Judgement songs that would be like my dream Anathema gig cause Judgement's pretty much my favorite Anathema album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on October 22, 2014, 10:03:37 AM
Never heard anything by this band until last week. Started working my way through their discography and it's great stuff. I love Distant Satellites, just the sort of dreamy and atmospheric style I like. The Lost Song Part 1 and Ariel almost have me in tears.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on October 22, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
On their Facebook, Anathema is asking fans for 5 of their favorite songs from 1990-1999 as they are thinking of digging out songs from that era for their show in Wroclow, Poland on Monday.

For anyone interest these were my picks in no particular order:
1. Make It Right (F.F.S)
2. Judgement
3. One Last Goodbye
4. Restless Oblivion
5. Lost Control
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 23, 2014, 12:46:21 AM
My picks:

Lost Control
Regret
Sunset of Age
Eternity Pt. 3
Restless Oblivion

Tbh that's not my actual top 5; just 5 songs I want to see them play. I love Deep, One Last Goodbye, Empty etc., but those get played relatively often. However, I had to pick Lost Control, because it's my #1 Anathema song! Restless Oblivion might be too heavy to blend in with the new material, but I'd like to see them give it a shot. If the old songs work at the Polish show, hopefully they'll stay in the set for the remainder of the tour! :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 23, 2014, 03:01:28 AM
There's so many, but I voted for:

Forgotten Hopes
Don't Look Too Far
Regret
Far Away
Shroud of Frost
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on October 23, 2014, 04:44:53 AM
I picked:

A Dying Wish
Angelica
Far Away
Regret
Lost Control

Even though I'm not too familiar with the pre-A4 albums, I know that there are a few songs on those albums that I really like.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on October 23, 2014, 02:33:37 PM
Regret, Lost Control, Alternative 4. I don't know so much Eternity and the albums before it. I like Judgement but I don't have big favourites from that album yet
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 28, 2014, 10:04:38 AM
A couple interesting songs on their setlist last night. I hope they stick.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/hala-orbita-wrocaw-poland-63cc3a6f.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/hala-orbita-wrocaw-poland-63cc3a6f.html)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on October 29, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
That's awesome!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 29, 2014, 03:45:32 AM
I thought they'd pick some more surprising songs, since Sleepless, ADW and Angelica are the only songs they've played from the first three albums since WHBWH came out. Judgement coming back is pretty sweet, though!

Also, Anathema just announced that they'll do extended old-school encores again in Finland next week, which means I'll get to see one! :2metal: They're asking us to request 5 songs, and I posted the same wishes as last time, except Make It Right instead of Restless Oblivion. It'd be cool if they played something more obscure than in Poland, especially if they'll tour wih Darren and Duncan next year, but I'm totally stoked already. :caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 31, 2014, 08:34:05 AM
Seeing them live tomorrow, and I'm listening through their albums. So much greatness. Since Distant Satellites isn't AS fresh anymore, I feel it's easier to rank the albums more properly now. I would rank them something like this:

--5/5--
1. Judgement
2. We're Here Because We're Here
--4.5/5--
3. Alternative 4
4. A Natural Disaster
5. The Silent Enigma
--4/5--
6. Distant Satellites
7. Weather Systems
8. A Fine Day to Exit
9. Eternity
--3.5/5--
10. Serenades

Serenades is really the only album that I'm not the biggest fan of, mostly because it doesn't feel very much like an Anathema album. Sleepless is amazing and would probably be a top15-20 Anathema track IMO, but overall the album is a bit samey. If they remade the album with Vinny on vocals and changed the vocals a bit, I probably would appreciate it more. Just from Sleepless alone I'm bumping it from a 3 to 3.5, the rest is good but nothing too special. I do think pretty much everything they have done since The Silent Enigma has been a hit though. When their ninth best album is still an 8 out of 10, that speaks volumes of how good they are IMO.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 31, 2014, 08:45:29 AM
Yeah, they've creeped up on me over the past couple years and slowly become my favorite band. Completely agree about Serenades, it's the only one that I'm not very interested in. It's hard to argue with your rankings, too, although I would put Weather Systems up there with Judgement and Alternative 4 as my top 3.

Hopefully the concert surpasses all of your expectations. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on October 31, 2014, 08:50:15 AM
When their ninth best album is still an 8 out of 10, that speaks volumes of how good they are IMO.
I'm blown away by how consistent they are. Even their last album, after 20 years of musical career and another 9 albums, it's still awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 31, 2014, 08:59:56 AM
Yeah, they've creeped up on me over the past couple years and slowly become my favorite band. Completely agree about Serenades, it's the only one that I'm not very interested in. It's hard to argue with your rankings, too, although I would put Weather Systems up there with Judgement and Alternative 4 as my top 3.

Hopefully the concert surpasses all of your expectations. I look forward to hearing your thoughts.  :)

I really hope I get the extended encore with old songs. Not because the old songs are necessarily better than the new ones, but it's nice with that contrast, and it's always nice with the unexpected. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 01, 2014, 06:08:50 PM
So the concert was amazing, and I might even go as far as saying in my top5, or even top3 best concerts I've been too. The audio was superb, the setlist was fantastic, the band was on fire and the audience was pretty darn great, and that really resulted in a special show.

The setlist tonight was:

The Lost Song, Part 1
The Lost Song, Part 2
Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Thin Air
One Last Goodbye
The Lost Song, Part 3
Anathema
The Beginning and the End
Universal
Closer
--Encore--
(Firelight intro)
Distant Satellites
A Natural Disaster
Fragile Dreams

As a whole it was really spectacular, but if I'm going into the biggest highlights, Universal would be nr1. My favorite Anathema song by far, I'm happy they played it (but it's a staple I guess) and seeing it live made me appreciate it even more. Maybe even up there among my 10 favorite songs ever. Apart from that, Closer was really epic and much better live, which says a lot considering the studio version is really good too. And I mean just look at that start, with The Lost Song (p1 and p2), Untouchable (p1 and p2) and Thin Air. I don't think you could get any better start to the concert, those five tracks are all amazing and I could not have asked for any other songs there.

If I were to make any complaints, and this is just minor nitpicking really, the setlist COULD have been 2-3 songs longer. I believe they played for roughly 90 minutes, and that's fine. When you're a band with 10 albums, you could throw in another 10-15 minutes if you want to, and they could have gone a bit deeper in those 10-15 minutes with some more old stuff. I totally understand them for focusing on WHBWH/WS/DS with a few minor appearances of old stuff, but yeah, something more from the magical catalog of Anathema would have been great. A true oldie like Sleepless, Sunset of Age or A Dying Wish, or maybe something from Eternity. I even think A Fine Day to Exit gets overlooked way too easily, because it's a great album, and most songs would totally fit under the new Anathema style.

While not related to the concert itself, I had a bit of a realization during the concert, a minor detail I should have picked up way sooner, but for some reason I haven't. I find it very interesting how Anathema re-use some lyrical themes, and how The Lost Song centers a lot around the lyrical phrase "YOU feel ME", and Untouchable centers around the phrase "I feel YOU". I'm no lyric-digger and I don't claim to fully understand all their lyrics, but to me it felt kinda like approaching a topic from different perspectives somehow. I just found it cool how two albums in a row (WS and DS) both opens with a two-part song and both having such a similar center-phrase. Kinda blew my mind a little bit. I also got a little similar vibe between thinking about Flying and Universal when Vinny sings "defy the limits and fly", but that's probably more unintentional. The Untouchable/Lost Song comparisons feel more valid because there might be something to it.

Anyhow, I waited 5 years to watch them after not being allowed in last time, and it was worth the wait.  :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 01, 2014, 10:57:43 PM
Sounds like an awesome show! I'm glad you got Universal- it's one of my favorites too. I was a little bummed they didn't play it when I saw them. Even more bummed to not get One Last Goodbye, but I expect it next time I see them. Plus I did get Internal Landscapes and a few other favorites, so I was definitely more than satisfied. I feel ya, about the length, though. A couple more songs would really put that setlist over the edge.

I never noticed that about the lyrics in Untouchable and Lost Song- neat inversion. Quite possibly a coincidence, but it's fun nonetheless. You've got me listening to Universal now, so thanks!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 02, 2014, 01:17:52 AM
The setlist tonight was:
*snip*
According to setlist.fm they've played Ariel everywhere else instead of OLG, so you got a slightly different set. Ariel is one of my favorites from the new album, but I like OLG even more so I can't say I'd be disappointed if they kept it that way for my show next Saturday.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 02, 2014, 02:43:13 AM
They said they wanted to dedicate One Last Goodbye to the road team or something like that, but I can't complain. I think Ariel is a solid tune, but One Last Goodbye is one of their classics, and it was nice to get something from Judgement.  :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lolzeez on November 02, 2014, 06:59:35 AM
FINALLY seeing them next year. Hopefully OLG sticks.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 02, 2014, 11:18:17 AM
Yeah, OLG is either my first or second favorite Anathema song, depending on my mood. Interchangeable with Internal Landscapes. Such an emotional song
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: crawl_away on November 02, 2014, 11:38:44 AM
Long time lurker (who hasn't posted in a very long time) posting here... is anybody going to the Stockholm Anathema show this Wednesday night?
Would be great to meet up with someone else who is going!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 08, 2014, 02:27:06 AM
I'm finally seeing Anathema live tonight! :metal According to setlist.fm (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2014/the-circus-helsinki-finland-2bcc00a6.html) the extended encore in Helsinki was slightly shorter than the one in Poland, but luckily Judgement and A Dying Wish are still there, so hopefully I'll get to hear those songs. I'll post a report tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 09, 2014, 03:28:17 AM
What a great show! This was the setlist:

The Lost Song, Part 1
The Lost Song, Part 2
Untouchable, Part 1
Untouchable, Part 2
Thin Air
Ariel
The Lost Song, Part 3
Anathema
The Storm Before the Calm
The Beginning and the End
Universal
Closer

Encore:
Firelight
Distant Satellites
Take Shelter
A Natural Disaster
Fragile Dreams

As you can see, they broke their promise about the special encore, but the show was amazing nevertheless. I was surprised at how well The Storm... worked live - it got everybody moving and the ending was glorious. It's a song I wasn't too crazy about on Weather Systems (or even the Universal DVD), but now it absolutely blew my mind. THIS IS FUCKING INSANE, THIS FUCKING INSANE! However, the highlight of the night was without a doubt Closer: it sounded amazingly intense and powerful, and lots of people (including yours truly) clapped their hands throughout the whole song. Fragile Dreams was a perfect closer, and I also really liked Distant Satellites and AND.

Before the show I'd wondered how Vincent will pull off the intense vocal moments in The Lost Song Pt. 1 and Anathema, but those songs were played in a lower key and he nailed them. In fact, only Thin Air, The Lost Song Pt. 3 and The Storm... were played in their original keys/tunings. Both Vincent and Lee sang beautifully throughout the night, and all the harmonies were just perfect. Lee also did a stunning vocal improv(?) at the end of AND. I also liked how Danny added some extra flavor to Closer and DS with additional guitar parts, and Lee did some harmonies in songs she didn't originally sing on, like DS and Fragile Dreams.

The lighting was probably the most remarkable I've seen at any concert - at the very start of the show the lights were red like the DS album cover, and during the second verse they started to move to the rhythm of the music. For the first half of AND there were no lights, and Danny told us to lighten the place with our cellphones like on Universal. Although the guys didn't talk to us too much, Danny had a good control of the crowd, telling us to sing, clap our hands, jump and so on. It can be difficult to connect with a Finnish audience, but they did a great job. Vincent even told us this gig and the preceding one in Helsinki had been their best Finnish shows to date, but it felt honest and genuine and didn't come across as ass kissing. Danny also noted that his custom guitar has been made by a Finnish guy, and it allows him to create controlled feedback.

All in all, I had a great time and the show felt magical. I only wish they'd played at least one 90s song besides Fragile Dreams - One Last Goodbye or Judgement in place of Take Shelter would've made the night perfect. But either way, anyone who gets to see Anathema live is in for a treat, no matter what they play!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 10, 2014, 08:07:50 AM
I'm glad you had a good concert!

There are now official grumblings of a 'Resonance Tour', with a lot of the older material, this next year. Featuring Duncan Patterson and Darren White.

I just hope that it includes some North American dates within 500 miles of my house.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on November 10, 2014, 08:09:39 AM
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Anathema To Play Special ‘Resonance’ Set at Roadburn Festival (https://www.facebook.com/roadburnfestival) 2015; To Be Joined By Former Members Duncan Patterson and Darren White.
 
 “Roadburn festival is a hugely respected institution and has to be the most fitting launch for the Anathema 'Resonance' tour. It will be a celebration of the band's entire history, and to be joined by our old friends and comrades Duncan Patterson and Darren White for these exclusive shows will be a very special, potent and positive event for all of us. We hope you can join in this once in a lifetime celebration” - Danny Cavanagh.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 10, 2014, 08:18:17 AM
This sounds really cool. I doubt they'll play anywhere near me, but I'm glad for anyone who gets to see it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on November 10, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
I wasn't planning on going after the last gig I saw was only so-so, but since I did really like DS and that they have switched drummers.. that kind of restores my hopes a bit. I'm seeing them this wednesday in Utrecht.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on November 10, 2014, 07:08:06 PM
I hope they film that Resonance show at Roadburn for a live DVD/BluRay. It'd be a shame if they didn't capture that once in a lifetime performance on film/audio.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on November 11, 2014, 01:53:21 AM
Wow. That Resonance show should be amazing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 11, 2014, 06:14:50 AM
Another event in London:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1796690_10152832740023629_2100682338423242403_n.jpg?oh=b6102f02f1bb8756dcf0c04f4a0d65c9&oe=54F03095&__gda__=1423297450_48867f1f01119ffe1937ad73bbb2f474)

I won't be able to attend either of these shows, but I also hope there'll be a DVD!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on November 12, 2014, 07:29:19 PM
Saw the show tonight with my mother and my gf. We left disappointed. Vocals overall were not convincing enough, at times quite off key,  and the loud bassdrum drowned out the subtle emotional moments. Opening with The Lost Song and Untouchables was too much of the same and the enthousiasm of the band felt forced. Like they've lost their edge. And basically zero interaction between the band members.

Modest highlights were:

Thin Air
The Storm After The Calm
Anathema (not as good as I hoped but still)
Universal (also lacking,  but the song is just really good, even when its performance isn't the best)
The Beginning and the End
A Natural Disaster (best performance of the night, finally felt something here)

Having seen Opeth a few days ago,  the difference in professionalism and quality was painfully obvious.

However, a gig they did on the whbwh tour still stands in my top 5 gigs ever. I don't know what happend to Anathema.  Maybe it's me? I'm holding off on their gigs for a while. I'll just play their records at home..

Don't get me wrong, the gig wasn't bad but with Anathema you hope and expect to be blown away.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on November 12, 2014, 08:57:01 PM
That's interesting. A Natural Disaster was probably my least favorite song at the show I attended. Though, that's not really saying much, considering how much I loved every song. Still my favorite concert.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: crawl_away on November 13, 2014, 05:05:02 AM
Saw the show tonight with my mother and my gf. We left disappointed. Vocals overall were not convincing enough, at times quite off key,  and the loud bassdrum drowned out the subtle emotional moments. Opening with The Lost Song and Untouchables was too much of the same and the enthousiasm of the band felt forced. Like they've lost their edge. And basically zero interaction between the band members.

Modest highlights were:

Thin Air
The Storm After The Calm
Anathema (not as good as I hoped but still)
Universal (also lacking,  but the song is just really good, even when its performance isn't the best)
The Beginning and the End
A Natural Disaster (best performance of the night, finally felt something here)

Having seen Opeth a few days ago,  the difference in professionalism and quality was painfully obvious.

However, a gig they did on the whbwh tour still stands in my top 5 gigs ever. I don't know what happend to Anathema.  Maybe it's me? I'm holding off on their gigs for a while. I'll just play their records at home..

Don't get me wrong, the gig wasn't bad but with Anathema you hope and expect to be blown away.

It's interesting that you made this observation, as I felt the same after seeing the band in Stockholm. The whole performance had an air of less-than-professional. Danny seemed to be in a super bad mood and didn't smile or look happy almost the entire show. He also got really angry at a fan who kept requesting Sleepless, and it was really awkward. It really felt like the show might stop at any moment from the bad vibes coming from the stage. However, I thought that Lee Douglas was very professional and sang brilliantly the entire show. She seemed much more into the show than Danny.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on November 13, 2014, 09:29:17 AM
Saw the show tonight with my mother and my gf. We left disappointed. Vocals overall were not convincing enough, at times quite off key,  and the loud bassdrum drowned out the subtle emotional moments. Opening with The Lost Song and Untouchables was too much of the same and the enthousiasm of the band felt forced. Like they've lost their edge. And basically zero interaction between the band members.

...

Having seen Opeth a few days ago,  the difference in professionalism and quality was painfully obvious.

However, a gig they did on the whbwh tour still stands in my top 5 gigs ever. I don't know what happend to Anathema.  Maybe it's me? I'm holding off on their gigs for a while. I'll just play their records at home..

Don't get me wrong, the gig wasn't bad but with Anathema you hope and expect to be blown away.

have you seen the live DVDs they put out pre-WHBWH? i'm afraid the one gig in your top five is a rarity for this band – sloppiness and forced enthusiasm are the regular. they're as bad as Katatonia have been on these terms (though, like Katatonia, i had thought they were taking a turnaround for the better after watching Universal. clearly not an accurate example...).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 13, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
Interesting comments... As I said in my earlier post, both Vincent and Lee sang incredibly well at the Tampere show. I also saw Danny smiling quite a few times and he seemed happy at the reception they got. There was even a bit of laughter on stage when Vinnie asked Danny if he was going to say something and I think Danny joked that he usually talks too much. They also played two more songs (The Storm, Take Shelter)  than at most shows, although that may have been (and probably was) planned beforehand. Hopefully there were less bad nights than good ones on this tour!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on November 13, 2014, 11:21:30 AM
Anathema just announced their South American leg which makes me the happiest person ever! Also, it's just a couple of days before I go on vacation so lucky me  :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 19, 2014, 03:01:28 PM
Duncan Patterson has just launched a PledgeMusic campaign for an orchestral release called The Eternity Suite: https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/duncanpatterson
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I have been playing and composing music for over 20 years, transcending genres and moonlighting with various artists. After releasing 12 albums as a band member (Anathema, Antimatter, Ion, Alternative 4) I am now working on a trilogy of orchestral albums, containing cinematic versions of my songwriting discography.

First up is ‘The Eternity Suite’ based around and including the ‘Eternity’ tracks that I have written, parts 1 to 24 (including the unreleased ‘missing’ parts), more from the album, plus brand new compositions.

This is a challenging yet exciting project, and I need your support to help it see the light of day. Here you can be part of the process by pre-ordering items and helping to raise money for the project. I’m keeping prices low, and I will sign items on request at no extra cost. Every pledger will receive a digital download of the album plus exclusive access to regular updates and bonus content during the creative process. All prices include P&P plus each pledger receives a digital download of the album.

The money raised will go towards:
Musician’s fees
Mixing/mastering
Licence fees
Artwork
Manufacturing

All support is greatly appreciated!

Duncan Patterson
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on December 07, 2014, 09:19:44 AM
anyone get The Lost Song pt. 3 digital single? "Coda" sounds somewhat familiar... (the remix is pretty lame though)

Anyone else get "Coda"? Does it actually fit in with the album at the end (as a coda would?), or is it merely an afterthought? I'd like to know the story behind it because if it does belong at the end of DS, I can put it there on my playlists.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on December 07, 2014, 10:48:20 AM
I've got it. It's a nice instrumental piece, with a huge ambiental sound, and hummings from Vincent and Lee.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on December 07, 2014, 10:58:56 AM
anyone get The Lost Song pt. 3 digital single? "Coda" sounds somewhat familiar... (the remix is pretty lame though)

Anyone else get "Coda"? Does it actually fit in with the album at the end (as a coda would?), or is it merely an afterthought? I'd like to know the story behind it because if it does belong at the end of DS, I can put it there on my playlists.

-Marc.

well there's a dinosaur post  :rollin

i would say it's worth having in your playlist but perhaps not at the end of the record; i'd put it earlier, perhaps after "Ariel." there are so many rich, emotional songs in a row ahead of "You're Not Alone" that this little track makes a nice breather.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 17, 2014, 08:01:00 AM
Danny has taken the crowdfunding route for his solo cover album, just like his ex-bandmate: https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/dannycavanagh
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Hello. My name is Daniel Cavanagh.

Welcome to my first PledgeMusic campaign!

For those of you who don’t know me, I am lucky enough to be part of a musical family called Anathema. For many years together with my band mates I have composed and performed many heartfelt songs, always with absolute sincerity.

Like all musicians, I am part of a long chain of discovery, as influences are infused into our work and that in turn is passed on to the listener, and so on, and so on…

Finally the time has come to pay tribute to a few of my key influences growing up.

I also crave a more direct, personal and sincere communication with the listener. I believe PledgeMusic can be used in such a way. That is why I am offering personal, unique and irreplaceable performances of my Anathema songs, personally dedicated to anyone you wish. If you have connected ‘Untouchable’ to a loved one, ‘One Last Goodbye’ to a friend, ‘Are You There?’ to your own life… Whoever you would like to dedicate a ‘once in a lifetime’ recording of an anathema song… You can do that here, and only here!

Here is the only platform that the album ‘Memory and Meaning’ album is available from. This album is performed entirely live in the studio with no overdubs of any kind whatsoever. What you hear is what was performed. Simultaneous guitar, vocals and loops… Every breath and nuance is captured at the source.

Also I want to tell you that I will be donating a portion of the money from this record to charities that support people suffering with mental health difficulties. These donations will be my contribution back into the world and shall continue in my future work.

I hope you appreciate the record, and I hope you’ll join me on this new adventure on PledgeMusic. I promise to do my best for you.

Yours sincerely,
Daniel Cavanagh

By ordering your copy of the Album here on PledgeMusic, you’ll gain access to updates, bonus content, video clips and much more.

On top of this, you can pre-order any of the items listed below, including the ultimate Danny Cavanagh product; The Hamper.
Tracklist:
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1. Big Love – Fleetwood Mac
2. Running up that Hill – Kate Bush
3. With or Without you – U2
4. Song to the Siren – Tim Buckley
5. How to Disappear Completely – Radiohead
6. River Man – Nick Drake
7. Smile like you mean it – The Killers
8. Romeo and Juliet – Dire Straits
9. Wasted Years – Iron Maiden
10. High Hopes – Pink Floyd
I'm not a big fan of cover songs, but I like the idea of this release. I'm not sure if I'll pledge, though.

BTW, Duncan Patterson reached his goal already, but you can still pledge if you're interested in the Eternity Suite: https://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/duncanpatterson I may be totally crazy, but I got myself the handwritten lyric book. :D I own pretty much all the albums Duncan has released (except the Ion ones) and I like his lyrics, so I thought it would be a cool item to own.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on December 18, 2014, 05:42:24 AM
That Tim Buckley song is one of my all time favorites. I'm really interested to see what Danny does with these songs. Also, cool idea to dedicate performances of Anathema songs to the highest pledgers, but that's way out of my price range. I'll probably buy the album, at least, though.

I wish they would announce a NA tour for this upcoming year. There's about a 2 month window of time between Progpower in Atlanta and Cruise to the Edge leaving from Miami which I imagine they might utilize for at least a handful of dates... Might just be wishful thinking on my part though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on February 07, 2015, 05:45:14 AM
Going to see them tonight! I'm so freaking exited  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 07, 2015, 07:46:30 AM
Damn, I wish I could go :( . Me jelly, Nekov.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 07, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
Me too... Make sure you let us know how it went, tomorrow. And enjoy! This is your 2nd time seeing them, right?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on February 07, 2015, 11:52:56 AM
Me too... Make sure you let us know how it went, tomorrow. And enjoy! This is your 2nd time seeing them, right?

Yep, and this time it's at a place that sounds way better! I'll make sure to let you know how it went.  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on February 08, 2015, 07:01:50 AM
Nice show last night. The sound was better than the last time I saw them but I think it could have been a bit better. The band was great and they made sure to involve the crowd and seem to enjoy the energy we brought so that was relly nice.
Overall I really enjoyed the experience

Edit: I almost forgot, I'm so in love with Lee :hearts:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 08, 2015, 09:17:34 AM
Yeah Lee is a keeper. Anything surprising on the setlist?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on February 08, 2015, 04:11:03 PM
I was surprised by the opener, I was expecting The Lost Song Pt1 but it makes sense that they opened with Anathema instead.

I was just checking setlist.fm and it seems South America got a slightly different setlist than Europe.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jammindude on February 08, 2015, 04:19:37 PM
I really feel like I could totally get into these guys because they truly meet the definition of "progressive".   I was actually into "doom metal" (liked Cathedral especially) in the early 90's...and to know that they went from things similar to that onwards to what they are doing now is just amazing. 

This is a band that I could probably really get into their entire catalog for various reasons along the way.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 08, 2015, 07:22:12 PM
Either The Silent Enigma or Eternity for doom metal, Judgement for their dark, depressive alternative rock phase (A Fine Day to Exit if you're into Radiohead and the like), and both We're Here Because We're Here and Weather Systems for their modern happy, atmospheric sound.

Or you can just make your way through their discography (starting with Serenades) and see how they have progressed till today - its an amazing journey, but you'd have to be really patient. And calm your hype, 'cause the band's style and sound might be a bit different to what you may use to listen to. I hope you find at least one record you'll like   ;D.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on February 09, 2015, 03:29:59 AM
I was surprised by the opener, I was expecting The Lost Song Pt1 but it makes sense that they opened with Anathema instead.

I was just checking setlist.fm and it seems South America got a slightly different setlist than Europe.
You guys got Deep and One Last Goodbye instead of The Storm... and Take Shelter - I'm jelly!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on February 09, 2015, 10:59:44 AM
I wish we'd also gotten Are you there? like Chile did but I won't complain  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 20, 2015, 08:40:39 AM
Anathema has tweaked AFDTE and re-released it with a new intro. Always seemed to me like that album was a bit under appreciated.

Also apparently there are two US tours in the works right now, for September and November, respectively. Can't wait
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Post by: Zantera on February 20, 2015, 09:01:15 AM
AFDTE is a really nice album. Not one of their best, but I would say probably the most underappreciated. The title track, Temporary Peace, and several other really good songs.
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Post by: Sacul on February 20, 2015, 11:01:34 AM
I've always loved AFDTE, never got why people tend to dislike it. I know it's different from their other albums, but that doesn't make it worse. Anyways, listening to the stream on SoundCloud, and damn, that new intro song is great. And the new tracklist is better than the previous one, even if they got Pressure to the middle instead of opening the record. Whatever - will buy the box set for sure.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 20, 2015, 11:52:22 AM
did they take it down? i can't find the streaming link anywhere.

this is exciting! by far their best album, finally with the amazing intro they stupidly left off! i've only had a mid-quality unmastered MP3 Danny dropped on the forum many years ago. AND it's on vinyl! ... holy crap!
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Post by: Sacul on February 20, 2015, 12:34:59 PM
https://noisey.vice.com/en_ca/blog/anathema-interview-2015


Here's the most complete article I found - it includes details on the box set, the reissue of AFDTE (with the streaming link), and a nice interview with Vincent.
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Post by: ? on February 21, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
I heard the intro track when it was circulating on the Internet a couple of years ago. Cool that it's finally getting released officially!

AFDTE is not one of my top 3 Anathema albums, but I think it's a pretty strong record and I prefer it to AND and Weather Systems, for example.
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Post by: Zantera on February 21, 2015, 02:08:15 AM
I don't like the idea of re-arranging the order of the songs on an album, mostly because I've gotten used to the album a certain way, but if the new AFDTE helps bring in some new fans for the album, then it's cool that they are doing it.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 21, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
I don't like the idea of re-arranging the order of the songs on an album, mostly because I've gotten used to the album a certain way, but if the new AFDTE helps bring in some new fans for the album, then it's cool that they are doing it.

i'm into it just because i've always thought "Pressure" is a horrible opening choice, setting up the album like it's the new Coldplay record before going in a much better direction with "Release." plus, once i heard the intending opening track years ago, it was clear to me which option was better!
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Post by: 425 on February 21, 2015, 12:06:24 PM
AFDTE is actually the next Anathema album I was going to get (I'm working my way backwards; I have DS, WS, WHBWH and I just got AND). It's not very clear from that interview when the new version of that is going to be released, though... Obviously at this point I want to wait for that...
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Post by: The King in Crimson on February 21, 2015, 12:13:35 PM
I don't like the idea of re-arranging the order of the songs on an album, mostly because I've gotten used to the album a certain way, but if the new AFDTE helps bring in some new fans for the album, then it's cool that they are doing it.

i'm into it just because i've always thought "Pressure" is a horrible opening choice, setting up the album like it's the new Coldplay record before going in a much better direction with "Release." plus, once i heard the intending opening track years ago, it was clear to me which option was better!
Pressure is one of my favorites from the album so I obviously disagree. :)
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Post by: Zantera on February 21, 2015, 12:42:04 PM
I think Pressure is great, but I also think it's a weird choice for an opener. That said, it's the opener I have gotten used to. To me it's like having watched a movie the same way 50 times and then hearing that two scenes should have changed places in the movie, it would feel different even if it makes sense for the creator.
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Post by: Sacul on February 21, 2015, 01:26:16 PM
AFDTE is actually the next Anathema album I was going to get (I'm working my way backwards; I have DS, WS, WHBWH and I just got AND). It's not very clear from that interview when the new version of that is going to be released, though... Obviously at this point I want to wait for that...
I think it's around April 13th, along with the boxset.

Pressure is my fav song from the album, but it actually feels more like a soft closer rather than the first track of the record.
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Post by: ? on February 22, 2015, 03:40:31 AM
Pressure is a good song, but I've always thought it was a bad choice for an opening track. They probably thought it would be good to open with the lead single, but it didn't work IMO. Release would've been a better way to set the mood for the album, and I see it's the first proper song after the intro in the new tracklist:
Quote
A Fine Day
Release
Leave No Trace
Underwold
Pressure
Panic
Breaking Down The Barriers
Looking Outside inside
A Fine Day To Exit
Temporary Peace
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 22, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
damn, i didn't realize they split up the ending trifecta too. now i dunno how i feel anymore!

(there's always the original! and i'm sure i'll just end up making my own preferred order anyway – this keeps happening to me...)
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Post by: Sacul on February 26, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
I'm really digging the new song, and the new tracklist flows really well actually. I just hope they don't compress the album, cause on SoundCloud it looks that's the case.
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Post by: Phoenix87x on February 28, 2015, 06:25:38 AM
Finally

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10426145_10153103707503629_8257336432560928152_n.jpg?oh=44d25b1247a7455d2571d5c5e66f4465&oe=557E54BD&__gda__=1435440856_bf153b60287f3d75f788f853c7939249)

from their facebook page
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Post by: Sacul on February 28, 2015, 10:15:41 AM
wat
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Post by: Evermind on March 01, 2015, 07:10:54 AM
Just ordered Weather Systems for $3 in the local online store. Always wanted to give this band another try, and with this price I'm ready to do this. :tup
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Post by: Nekov on March 01, 2015, 07:21:47 AM
I know a lot of you guys don't like noisy crowds and stuff but this needs to be shared here beacuse it's a great showcase of how some bands really like the crowd getting involved in the show and it was one of the best moments of that concert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txp4iqA-8ug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txp4iqA-8ug)
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 01, 2015, 08:05:16 AM
I saw that the other day, Nekov... Very cool.

And speaking of crowd involvement, there's an incredible recording of the band performing One Last Goodbye and the crowd taking most of the vocal duties while Vincent breaks down into tears. It's my single favorite video on YouTube.
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Post by: krands85 on March 01, 2015, 08:22:00 AM
I saw that the other day, Nekov... Very cool.

And speaking of crowd involvement, there's an incredible recording of the band performing One Last Goodbye and the crowd taking most of the vocal duties while Vincent breaks down into tears. It's my single favorite video on YouTube.
Is that the one in Portugal? I love that vid too, so emotional!
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Post by: Nekov on March 01, 2015, 08:23:53 AM
Can you share the link? There are too many results in youtube  :P
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 01, 2015, 08:47:57 AM
Sure! I would've posted the link in my last post, but I was on my phone.

https://youtu.be/Yiq54bBKHzQ (https://youtu.be/Yiq54bBKHzQ)
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Post by: krands85 on March 01, 2015, 10:13:59 AM
That's the one  :tup :coolio
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Post by: Sacul on March 01, 2015, 11:02:27 AM
Damn, that was strong. I think that's the best example of how emotional the band's music is :heart .

Just ordered Weather Systems for $3 in the local online store. Always wanted to give this band another try, and with this price I'm ready to do this. :tup
I hope you find them cheesy enough :neverusethis: .
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Post by: Nekov on March 01, 2015, 12:22:22 PM
That was beautiful
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Post by: ? on March 02, 2015, 08:08:22 AM
That OLG clip is pretty moving indeed...
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Post by: Xanthul on March 02, 2015, 08:49:11 AM
Damn I was at work and I had to discreetly wipe some tears away. Great video.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2015, 09:24:27 AM
So Anathema is playing a few acoustic cathedral shows now and I believe the final one (in Liverpool) is being filmed for DVD/blu-ray release. Looking at the set lists from the shows so far, there are a couple songs that would be really neat to get on the DVD.

I doubt it will live up to the standard set by Universal (still sooo good, even after having watched it more than a dozen times), but I'm looking forward to seeing what they put together. Hopefully involving Lasse Hoile and hopefully available within the next year or so.
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Post by: Zantera on March 05, 2015, 03:19:40 PM
In other news, Universal is still the best Anathema song. And it's up there among the best outros of all time for me. That piano.  :heart
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Post by: Sacul on March 05, 2015, 04:10:44 PM
I don't use to watch recorded gigs, but Universal is so close to perfection it scares the shit out of me :hefdaddy . And the song is definitely the highlight of WHBWH and it's among the band's very best, but they have made so many masterpieces it's tough to choose just one.
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Post by: Zook on March 05, 2015, 04:51:32 PM
WHBWH recently clicked for me. I still think WS and DS are better, but WHBWH is still excellent. I don't listen to much Porcupine Tree, but what I've heard, I get a PT vibe from WHBWH. I know Steven Wilson mixed the album, but did he have any influence on it?
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2015, 05:06:50 PM
Besides his contributions to the production, I don't think SW was involved with WHBWH.

Speaking of which, I'd like to see him work on the mix for at least some of their next album. He only did You're Not Alone on DS, if I'm not mistaken.
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Post by: Zook on March 05, 2015, 05:12:02 PM
Wikipedia says he mixed Take Shelter as well.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 05, 2015, 05:18:11 PM
oh cool, I had no idea! Take Shelter, while initially not one of my favorites on the album, has become  one of my go-to tracks when I need an Anathema fix but don't have time for a full album. Love the way it climaxes.
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Post by: Buddyhunter1 on March 05, 2015, 05:38:09 PM
Take Shelter is the best song on Distant Satellites aside from the title track, if you ask me. I really wish more of that album was electronic, because I like those last two songs so much more than the rest of them.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 05, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
WHBWH recently clicked for me. I still think WS and DS are better, but WHBWH is still excellent. I don't listen to much Porcupine Tree, but what I've heard, I get a PT vibe from WHBWH. I know Steven Wilson mixed the album, but did he have any influence on it?

he didn't write anything (like the Opeth contributions, for example), but it's very clear "Get Off, Get Out" was written in the PT style. i think the rest just sounds like an SW work because it's a prog rock album with his mixing, which is extremely recognizable ever since Deadwing. i think they also impacted him, as "Deform to Form a Star" smacks of "Dreaming Light," methinks.

i still haven't gotten into the last three tracks, despite quite enjoying the rest of WHBWH (especially the opening two!).
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Post by: 425 on March 05, 2015, 11:06:05 PM
Take Shelter is the best song on Distant Satellites aside from the title track, if you ask me. I really wish more of that album was electronic, because I like those last two songs so much more than the rest of them.

I don't know exactly how it would rank for me on the album, but Take Shelter is an amazing song. It's also one of my favorite song titles ever.
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Post by: Heretic on March 05, 2015, 11:57:03 PM
Listened to Distant Satellites again after claiming I thought it had grown off of me... nope, still amazing. Just too many other things to listen to that I don't ever get around to it, I guess.
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Post by: jag66 on March 06, 2015, 03:17:16 AM
So Anathema is playing a few acoustic cathedral shows now and I believe the final one (in Liverpool) is being filmed for DVD/blu-ray release. Looking at the set lists from the shows so far, there are a couple songs that would be really neat to get on the DVD.

I doubt it will live up to the standard set by Universal (still sooo good, even after having watched it more than a dozen times), but I'm looking forward to seeing what they put together. Hopefully involving Lasse Hoile and hopefully available within the next year or so.


Went to the Leeds Cathedral show - If it's being filmed in Liverpool should be pretty awesome, some really neat versions of some of their songs. Trying to guess what was coming next based on a twitchy electronic drum beat was difficult.
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Post by: ? on March 06, 2015, 05:57:16 AM
WHBWH recently clicked for me. I still think WS and DS are better, but WHBWH is still excellent. I don't listen to much Porcupine Tree, but what I've heard, I get a PT vibe from WHBWH. I know Steven Wilson mixed the album, but did he have any influence on it?

he didn't write anything (like the Opeth contributions, for example), but it's very clear "Get Off, Get Out" was written in the PT style.
I can also hear some hints of PT in A Simple Mistake, especially in the verses and the heavy climax.
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Post by: Zantera on March 06, 2015, 06:19:33 AM
I feel like in general, Anathema since their "relaunch" in 2010 has been in the spirit of PT. I don't mean that in a bad way or that they are ripping off PT, but it's like they saw a few elements that made PT so popular, and managed to highlight those elements with their own music. Also, considering PT died with The Incident around 2009/2010, I also feel like Anathema has picked up their torch of being currently the best current prog band, at least in terms of the Kscope bunch.
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Post by: ariich on March 06, 2015, 06:22:02 AM
Interesting, I don't really think re-launched Anathema has much at all in common with PT. Tonally I think they are very different. If anything I would have said that Anathema's older, darker material has a lot more in common with PT, even though the production style is quite different.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 08, 2015, 10:02:40 PM
Picture posted by Lasse Hoile last night, from Liverpool Cathedral, where the dvd/blu-ray was filmed. Really looking forward to this.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/18104_10153857956577228_1096479995410554269_n.jpg?oh=88bf2cf39fb855cdc4c14f4e6febebcd&oe=558FE62A&__gda__=1435524375_5bc251358c73d9533fd8e10d83b4aaa6)
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Post by: ? on March 09, 2015, 03:38:37 AM
The setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2015/liverpool-anglican-cathedral-liverpool-england-6bcbf29e.html

Danny is such a perfectionist :lol They could've done some overdubs on Untouchable Pt. 1 afterwards and played an older song instead of a second rendition.
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Post by: Onno on March 09, 2015, 06:34:15 AM
Electricity!  :omg: :hefdaddy
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Post by: jag66 on March 09, 2015, 06:51:02 AM
Electricity!  :omg: :hefdaddy

Yep, and it was amazing (in Leeds that is)
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Post by: Zantera on March 09, 2015, 10:38:55 AM
Is there anything special about the gig? Because setlist-wise this is a pretty lazy Universal re-hash with a few smaller changes. I really like Universal, but unless Anathema drastically change their setlist, a new live album already feels meh.
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Post by: ariich on March 09, 2015, 10:48:25 AM
Is there anything special about the gig?
It was acoustic.
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Post by: Scorpion on March 09, 2015, 04:31:51 PM
I still wish I could get into their last three albums, but they are just eugh for me. I love what they did with their darker sound, Judgement and The Silent Enigma are amazing, but I just can't get into their current stuff at all. The only exception is probably the song Anathema, but... yeah.
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Post by: Zantera on March 09, 2015, 04:47:29 PM
I prefer the "older" Anathema over the newer, but don't really have that big of a problem with the new one. I feel like the older albums were more unique, whereas WHBWH/WS/DS is just the same album over again. Luckily the quality is great enough that it doesn't bother me too much, but the older albums had more of a character to them.
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Post by: ninja1125 on March 09, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
I Don't feel WHBWH/WS is the same album but I do feel that way for WS/DS. The Lost Song and Untouchable are super similar.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 12, 2015, 08:43:53 AM
What I wouldn't give for a chance to make it to one of these upcoming "Resonance" shows!

The acoustic cathedral show should make for a good DVD/blu-ray, but I almost think these ones would have made more sense. Then again, maybe they already have some plans to record something from these shows for (un)official release and they just aren't sharing that info yet. Seems like the opportunity is almost too perfect to pass up, all things considered.
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Post by: ? on March 13, 2015, 03:34:18 AM
Yeah, I find it puzzling that they decided to film a 16-song acoustic set instead of the (reportedly) longest show of their career, which will include a lot more songs that haven't appeared on previous DVDs. I mean, Liverpool is obviously special as it's their hometown, but if I were them I would've filmed a Resonance show instead and maybe released a digital audio version of the Liverpool gig.
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 13, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
they've done back-to-back DVDs before!
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Post by: Zook on March 13, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
I Don't feel WHBWH/WS is the same album but I do feel that way for WS/DS. The Lost Song and Untouchable are super similar.

I think WHBWH, WS and DS make a great trilogy.
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Post by: Sacul on March 13, 2015, 10:29:08 AM
I think WHBWH, WS and DS make a great trilogy.
Absolutely this :hefdaddy.
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Post by: Evermind on March 14, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Remember I mentioned buying Weather Systems because of a nice price in a local store? Well, I gave it a spin just now and I actually really liked it. Don't know what happened, but I guess this current Anathema style finally clicked with me.
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Post by: Sacul on March 14, 2015, 11:57:05 AM
That's great to hear! I'm absolutely biased on this, but I think WS is the single most perfect rock album ever. The emotional catharsis, the pure passion of the music, the beauty of the arrangements, this huge bright atmosphere, Vincent & Lee - I love every single bit of that album. And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol.
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Post by: Scorpion on March 14, 2015, 12:27:27 PM
That's great to hear! I'm absolutely biased on this, but I think WS is the single most perfect rock album ever. The emotional catharsis, the pure passion of the music, the beauty of the arrangements, this huge bright atmosphere, Vincent & Lee - I love every single bit of that album. And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol.

This, right here, what makes Anathema's three most recent albums so mindnumbingly boring for me. Anathema just don't do it well at all. They were the masters of the darker sound, going as far as doom metal, and their three most recent albums destroyed that completely.
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Post by: Sacul on March 14, 2015, 01:48:05 PM
I get that lots of people can't get into their new sound because of that - yeah, they had an amazing dark sound, and it'd be interesting if they returned to it somehow, but I can't help loving their new approach. Somehow, it strongly connects with me on a personal level. And considering your tastes, Scorp, I can see why you just can't stand it. What's your fav album by them, btw?

I'm pretty sure the whole fanbase was discussing this very thing when WHBWH was released :lol .
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Post by: Scorpion on March 14, 2015, 02:01:44 PM
My favourite albums are The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and Alternative 4. All of those are amazing.

Rereading my posts, I came across a little grouchy. I didn't want that, and I definitely don't want to create the impression that I think my musical taste is superior or anything. I truly wish I would be able to get WHBWH, WS and DS the way most of you seem to, because it's obvious that they really poured their souls into them, but they just don't work for me.
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Post by: ariich on March 14, 2015, 02:21:03 PM
That's great to hear! I'm absolutely biased on this, but I think WS is the single most perfect rock album ever. The emotional catharsis, the pure passion of the music, the beauty of the arrangements, this huge bright atmosphere, Vincent & Lee - I love every single bit of that album.
Yes. Yes yes yes. All of this.

Quote
And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol.
But not this.
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Post by: senecadawg2 on March 14, 2015, 02:23:41 PM
My favourite albums are The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and Alternative 4. All of those are amazing.

Rereading my posts, I came across a little grouchy. I didn't want that, and I definitely don't want to create the impression that I think my musical taste is superior or anything. I truly wish I would be able to get WHBWH, WS and DS the way most of you seem to, because it's obvious that they really poured their souls into them, but they just don't work for me.

You couldn't come across as grouchy and superior if you tried  ;)
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Post by: Sacul on March 14, 2015, 03:10:02 PM
Quote
And that's interesting 'cause it bored the shit out of me on the first listens :lol .
But not this.
I saw it on some top 2012 list back then, and gave it a spin, since I trusted the reviewer's taste. But I was far from impressed. Meh at best. I even had it on my mp3 player for several months, just to show it to people who may like it.

Until, on a waiting room in September 2013, I decided to give it a last chance. I had so much free time until it was my turn, so I just did it. And then, something clicked on me. Why the hell did I think it was dull and cheesy? It was amazing! It grew slowly but with consistency since, and now I can't get enough of it.
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Post by: Scorpion on March 14, 2015, 03:14:38 PM
My favourite albums are The Silent Enigma, Eternity, Judgement and Alternative 4. All of those are amazing.

Rereading my posts, I came across a little grouchy. I didn't want that, and I definitely don't want to create the impression that I think my musical taste is superior or anything. I truly wish I would be able to get WHBWH, WS and DS the way most of you seem to, because it's obvious that they really poured their souls into them, but they just don't work for me.

You couldn't come across as grouchy and superior if you tried  ;)

:heart
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Post by: Sacul on March 15, 2015, 11:19:30 PM
Talking about WS, has anyone listened to the 5.1 mix? Is it anywhere good? And how about WHBWH and DS? SW was involved on those, so I'm pretty sure they sound delicious, but just want to know your opinions ;D .
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Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
The first Resonance show was tonight. Setlist (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2015/barba-negra-music-club-budapest-hungary-4bc8b3de.html (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2015/barba-negra-music-club-budapest-hungary-4bc8b3de.html)) is pretty incredible. I couldn't be more happy with their choices for the older songs.

Eternity Suite, Kingdom, Under a Veil, Lovelorn Rhapsody and A Dying Wish in particular...  :hefdaddy
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Post by: seasonsinthesky on April 08, 2015, 08:43:54 PM
holy fuck please tell me these are getting recorded
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on April 08, 2015, 08:49:55 PM
Would be completely baffling if they weren't.
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Post by: Onno on April 09, 2015, 02:27:09 AM
Holy shittttt, we need a DVD of that!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on April 09, 2015, 05:03:04 AM
Lovelorn Rhapsody from last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wSn4xeTlI) - sounds damn heavy! :metal They also play a mash-up of the original version and the Falling Deeper arrangement of They Die at the end.

I had seen a video of Sleepless performed with Darren in 2009 and he didn't sound too great in it, but his vocals are a lot better here. I find it cool that they played the original Eternity Trilogy, because it ties in nicely with Duncan's Pledgemusic project, which is the orchestral Eternity Suite including the missing parts. :tup
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Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2015, 05:52:33 AM
Pretty cool setlist.  :hat
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Post by: senecadawg2 on April 09, 2015, 06:07:08 AM
Lovelorn Rhapsody from last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1wSn4xeTlI) - sounds damn heavy! :metal They also play a mash-up of the original version and the Falling Deeper arrangement of They Die at the end.

Thanks for that. So much intensity...
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Post by: Lolzeez on April 09, 2015, 06:42:02 AM
Fuck,I gotta pick between seeing Anathema live or Slowdive. Thinking more towards Slowdive but i don't know...  :-\
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Post by: Zantera on April 09, 2015, 07:17:43 AM
Fuck,I gotta pick between seeing Anathema live or Slowdive. Thinking more towards Slowdive but i don't know...  :-\

That's a tough one. I've seen both live and both were awesome. It's very hard to pick, is it Anathema on the Resonance tour? If so, then it could be cool because the setlist is awesome and you'll probably never see something like it again. But then again, Slowdive just recently reunited and while they are working on a new album, you never know how long reunions last. I'm very happy I got to see them last year, as they are the best shoegaze band IMO.

Talk about Sophie's choice.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on April 14, 2015, 12:04:28 PM
It looks like the new remasters are out - at least on Spotify. Having gave them a quick listen, I'd say they all sound a bit better, clearer. But aside from the new track, I'm not sure if the difference with the older press is huge enough.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on April 18, 2015, 04:32:37 PM
I bought the remastered AND yesterday on LP with bonus CD of the album.
LP is a single and not a double, so the sound will be squashed and not good quality.
Also no lyric sheet, just some liner notes from the band.
CD sounds pretty good though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: comment on May 04, 2015, 07:30:27 PM
Just became an Anathema fan this past year!  This band is incredible!  Glad to see they have a thread on here.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 04, 2015, 07:44:31 PM
Good comment- I agree! Have you listened through all their albums yet?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: comment on May 05, 2015, 05:53:23 AM
Not all of them.  I've gone through A Fine Day To Exit until present.  Their last three albums have impressed me the most and get the most air time with me.  Universal is awesome on DVD.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 30, 2015, 11:41:05 PM
So I was bored and made this flowchart into the band's discography. I you feel something should be changed, tell me so - I want it to be as useful as it can for everyone ;D .

(https://i61.tinypic.com/2ptwimo.jpg)
I know, looks pretty ugly :lol . Wouldn't mind if someone wants to make a nice-looking version tho.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 31, 2015, 01:21:11 PM
Falling Deeper?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 31, 2015, 04:31:08 PM
I was considering adding a bracket for it, under the doom albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 31, 2015, 06:05:45 PM
that makes no sense, though, since it sounds nothing like the doom albums from which the material is derived. i'd make an offshoot from Weather Systems for it with like "more piano" or something and then you can draw a long link to the doom stuff that way. also the same ought to be done for Hindsight off the AND/AFDTE side. i'd somehow draw a line between Eternity and A4 too, since the Floyd influence runs so strong across them and Judgement. if that can even work.

my only other suggestion is to place Pentecost III next to TSE, since they have the same style, and it's very, very different from the style on Crestfallen and Serenades (which are the only ones with growls, btw – Vince is just talking or yelling on TSE/P3!).

talk about a band that needed a chart, right?!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: comment on June 18, 2015, 10:47:18 PM
Internal Landscapes off Weather Systems is just awesome!  My favorite Anathema song.  Any favorite songs?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 18, 2015, 11:23:57 PM
Damn it's tough - they have so many amazing tunes. My top 5 would look like this:

1) Untouchable
2) The Lost Child
3) Fragile Dreams
4) Anathema
5) Pitiless
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 19, 2015, 12:27:24 AM
There's an old thread in which several folks shared their top 20 or so, with writeups. You should resurect that and share your thoughts more in depth. I'd follow and surely do my own eventually
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: comment on June 20, 2015, 04:51:05 AM
Cool, I'll see if I can find it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: comment on June 21, 2015, 09:22:01 PM
There's an old thread in which several folks shared their top 20 or so, with writeups. You should resurect that and share your thoughts more in depth. I'd follow and surely do my own eventually

It's alive!  It's ALIVE Senecadawg2!  ...  29 pages in the archive.  😀
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on June 21, 2015, 10:08:36 PM
Internal Landscapes off Weather Systems is just awesome!  My favorite Anathema song.  Any favorite songs?
That might be very well my favorite Anathema song also. I also have a soft spot for Ariel for some reason. My top 5 at the moment would look like this:

1. Internal Landscapes
2. Ariel
3. One Last Goodbye
4. Untouchable
5. Anathema
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 22, 2015, 08:56:24 PM
I'm now watching Universal. I knew they were an excellent live band, but this is amazing - Dreaming Light had a killer performance by Vincent. And now Danny is blowing minds in The Storm Before the Calm :hefdaddy .
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on June 22, 2015, 09:21:00 PM
I need to get that concert on Blu-Ray somehow.

It took me 1 fucking hour to make a Favorite top 10 list and I think I fell short of the songs I like the most. This band is that good. Anathema's current Top 10 for me would be these, in no particular order:

-Ariel
-Universal
-Emotional Winter
-Internal Landscapes
-Dreaming Light
-The Lost Song, Part 2
-Far Away
-Violence
-A Natural Disaster
-Flying
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on June 22, 2015, 10:42:26 PM
I'm now watching Universal. I knew they were an excellent live band, but this is amazing - Dreaming Light had a killer performance by Vincent. And now Danny is blowing minds in The Storm Before the Calm :hefdaddy .
Yeah, Universal's an amazing live album/concert film. The amphitheater where they played at that show looks so amazing, and the band was on fire that night. Plus (on the BluRay version only), there's an awesome 5 song acoustic set from an earlier gig at the Union Chapel with two songs that weren't on the main feature.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 23, 2015, 02:23:37 AM
If I had to make a top15 Anathema songs, it would include (in no particular order, I just put them in chronologically)

Sleepless
Sunset of Age
Far Away
Fragile Dreams
Alternative 4
Regret
One Last Goodbye
Emotional Winter
A Fine Day to Exit
Flying
Thin Air
Universal
Untouchable (All parts)
The Lost Song (All parts)
Anathema

Let's face it, you can't split up Untouchable or Lost Song.  :angel:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 23, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
I know there was talk of doing an Anathema discography thread a while ago, but for some reason that never materialized. However, this year marks the band's 25th anniversary, there were the Resonance shows and the Music for Nations reissues in the spring, and I'm seeing them live again in August, so I thought about reviewing all the Anathema albums in my blog, but I realized I could run a discography thread over here at the same time. Anyone interested in following?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 23, 2015, 10:34:38 AM
I'd follow. If anything it would be a nice chance to speak fondly about the earlier Anathema albums, since most of the discussions here are usually restricted to WHBWH-WS-DS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on June 23, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
I'd definitely follow. I'm not familiar with their early death/doom albums so it'll be a nice chance to revisit them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 23, 2015, 11:45:35 AM
I know there was talk of doing an Anathema discography thread a while ago, but for some reason that never materialized. However, this year marks the band's 25th anniversary, there were the Resonance shows and the Music for Nations reissues in the spring, and I'm seeing them live again in August, so I thought about reviewing all the Anathema albums in my blog, but I realized I could run a discography thread over here at the same time. Anyone interested in following?

Yes I've been waiting for you to start it for a while now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 23, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Cool, I'll do it then! :metal

Do you guys think the EPs (Crestfallen, Pentecost III) and the compilations of re-recorded songs (Hindsight, Falling Deeper) should be included as well, or will we concentrate only on the studio albums?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on June 23, 2015, 12:27:39 PM
Speaking only for myself, I'd definitely be up for participating in the discussion for all of those. Though I don't know how much activity they will generate beyond a couple of people. Maybe if there isn't that much discussion, but you still want to include them, you can leave less time for each one?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 23, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
Yeah, I think I'd feature the full-length albums for a week or so, and leave 3-4 days for the other releases.

At least I think the EPs (especially P3) were an important part of Anathema's development in the early days, and the songs from those releases also got played at the Resonance shows, so it'd be a shame if they were completely ignored. The compilations also offer something new despite being remakes of old stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on June 23, 2015, 03:37:59 PM
I've never listened to the early albums (pre-Alternative 4) or the EPs but I would most certainly enjoy reading about them, it would provide a nice guide on how to get started on those.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on June 23, 2015, 04:19:30 PM
I've never listened to the early albums (pre-Alternative 4) or the EPs but I would most certainly enjoy reading about them, it would provide a nice guide on how to get started on those.
Same for me, I only listened 2 or 3 songs on the albums before Alternative 4, I would like to read something about them.
My top 10 is really similar to Zantera's top 15 for some albums:
Alternative 4
Regret
Lost Control
Emotional Winter
Balance+Closer (don't know what to choose and they flow really well in the album)
Thin Air
A Simple Mistake
Universal
Untouchable (All parts)
The Lost Song (Part 1-2)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on July 02, 2015, 01:29:56 PM
I ordered the Fine Days box set, because I wanted to get the new version of AFDTE and Were You There, and I didn't have AND on CD. The booklet includes all the lyrics and comments by Danny on each album, which is nice. I still need some time to get used to the new tracklist of AFDTE, though!

Anyway, the age limit for the DVD listed on the back cover is 12, and the reason for that is "suicide references". ??? I mean, the lyrics are sad, but not THAT depressive IMO! :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on July 11, 2015, 02:12:22 PM
Vincent performed a solo acoustic set for the first time tonight, at the Be Prog, My Friend festival in Barcelona. I didn't have a ticket for the festival because I didn't know at the time that I would be arriving in the city just in time to enjoy the show from right outside the square. It's an outdoors festival held annually in Spanish Village, which you can get into for 7 euros. While the little square is blocked off, it's all really cozy in here and the sound is still quite nice so I was able to hear the show to my hearts content. He only played for 50 minutes, but it was quite nice nonetheless. Highlights were Flying, Distant Satellites, Deep and a crowd-sung happy birthday for John Douglas (recorded by Vincent).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 03, 2015, 11:03:27 AM
Anathema played in Helsinki last night with Dream Theater. Their luggage hadn't arrived in Finland, so Vinnie, Danny and Lee played an acoustic set in casual clothes ("these pyjamas are NOT a fashion statement!" :lol) with borrowed instruments. They ended the show with a surprise cover of Wish You Were Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYtH1wMDKc Most of the people were clearly there for DT, but they slowly warmed up to Anathema and the band was visibly relieved that things turned out for the best in the end. I'm writing a concert report as my first foray into the world of journalism, so you can read more about the show soon. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 07, 2015, 11:18:20 AM
The concert report is online: https://www.musicalypse.net/reports/dream-theater-2015.php

Also, did anyone else see the announcement for the tour edition of Distant Satellites? According to Omerch, this is the tracklist for the second disc:
Quote
1. The Lost Song part 1 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (05:53)
2. Ariel (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:05)
3. The Lost Song part 3 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:31)
4. Firelight (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (02:16)
5. Anathema (live at Liverpool Cathedral) (07:15)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 07, 2015, 05:28:32 PM
The concert report is online: https://www.musicalypse.net/reports/dream-theater-2015.php

Also, did anyone else see the announcement for the tour edition of Distant Satellites? According to Omerch, this is the tracklist for the second disc:
Quote
1. The Lost Song part 1 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (05:53)
2. Ariel (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:05)
3. The Lost Song part 3 (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (04:31)
4. Firelight (acoustic in session –
Liverpool Parr Street Studios) (02:16)
5. Anathema (live at Liverpool Cathedral) (07:15)

Yeah. Not worth the price, I wouldn't say. But it makes sense to do it that way rather than make it a standalone EP nobody would buy. Now they'll at least catch listeners who haven't bought the album proper.

You can hear the "Lost Song" acoustic on the new Kscope Podcast, which also has the re-recorded "Lazarus" by Steven Wilson and the new TesseracT song. I really like their podcast... if you can get past how snooty the guy's voice is!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PolarizeMe on August 11, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
Apparently the Distant Satellites Tour Edition is being released "to coincide with the band’s first headline tour in the US in September 2015..." I thought that tour with Alcest in 2013 was their first headline US tour (I was at the NYC show). And if they're touring the US next month, why haven't they announced dates for it yet (unless they did but I didn't even know)?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 11, 2015, 03:24:04 PM
They haven't announced dates, but there has definitely been talk about it in several places.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 17, 2015, 10:14:27 AM
I thought that tour with Alcest in 2013 was their first headline US tour (I was at the NYC show).
It was a co-headlining tour, so technically speaking this upcoming one would be their first proper headlining tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on August 27, 2015, 08:23:12 AM
From the band's FB:

Anathema’s ‘A Sort of Homecoming’ announced and now available to pre-order!

Directed by Lasse Hoile (Steven Wilson / Katatonia / Opeth), A Sort Of Homecoming is a stunning concert film of Anathema’s homecoming show on March 7th 2015 in the spectacular setting of the Liverpool Cathedral. Set for release on 30th October through Kscope (Steven Wilson, TesseracT, Katatonia), the concert was described by Prog Magazine as “a once in a lifetime experience that words can barely do justice.”

"A Sort of Homecoming" will be released as :

4 disc box set featuring 2 CD – concert audio (100 mins), DVD – full concert plus an additional behind the scenes film ‘A Temporary Peace’ and concert on Blu-ray disc. In a deluxe rigid media book with 36 page booklet, presented in a slipcase.

2CD + DVD-V - The set features the full 100 minute audio and DVD-V of the concert with 5.1 audio mixed by The Pineapple Thief’s Bruce Soord.

Blu-ray disc - featuring the full 100 minute concert plus an additional behind the scenes film ’A Temporary Peace’ with 5.1 audio mixed by The Pineapple Thief’s Bruce Soord

LP - a gatefold triple 180g black vinyl LP including MP3 download code

More details and track listing for each format found here (https://www.kscopemusic.com/2015/08/27/kscope-presents-anathemas-a-sort-of-homecoming-cathedral-concert-film/).

YouTube trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_6vNJcaPEc&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on August 27, 2015, 08:42:45 AM
It feels a bit like milking it, especially considering they released Universal fairly recently, and the fact that a live DVD/CD covering the reunion-set they did with Duncan Patterson and Darren White for the 25/30 year anniversary would have been more interesting, but I'll still listen to it and probably enjoy it. They're great live, and while this feels like an easy release to finance the next studio album or touring, I can't fault them for putting out a live album when they're a strong live band. Just would have hoped to see the Resonance setlist instead. That would have been truly special.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on August 27, 2015, 08:48:38 AM
That trailer sounds amazing, wow.

It feels a bit like milking it, especially considering they released Universal fairly recently, and the fact that a live DVD/CD covering the reunion-set they did with Duncan Patterson and Darren White for the 25/30 year anniversary would have been more interesting, but I'll still listen to it and probably enjoy it. They're great live, and while this feels like an easy release to finance the next studio album or touring, I can't fault them for putting out a live album when they're a strong live band. Just would have hoped to see the Resonance setlist instead. That would have been truly special.

It may be a bit like milking it, but I don't see Anathema as a very rich and commercially succesful band, so I don't blame them for it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Tyrias on August 27, 2015, 08:50:04 AM
I don't think they've released an acoustic live recording so far, though. (Or if they have I haven't heard of it)
So I'm actually really looking forward to this release, the trailer looks and sounds really good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 27, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
I agree with Zantera in that a recording of the Resonance show probably would have been *much* more interesting, but I'm still really looking forward to this.

It'll be interesting to see how this one stacks up against Universal, which has become my favorite live release from any band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on August 27, 2015, 11:05:42 AM
Not a fan of the setlist myself.

On a side note, Opeth are gonna do a show where Universal was shot. Not an Opeth fan myself but I am still not decided if I want to check them out - they will have orchestra too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 28, 2015, 08:51:48 AM
The setlist looks pretty "meh" on paper, but having seen the trailer and the acoustic gig in Helsinki, I think this will be great. However, I'm not sure if I'll buy this upon release - the Bluray includes the doc and is available on its own without the CDs (which I'd never listen to), so I may wait until I've bought a Bluray player. Then again, I've said that about every Bluray with exclusive extras and ended up caving in and buying the DVD version instead. :lol

A Resonance DVD would've been a must-buy for me, but I guess it makes more sense business-wise to put out a live release focusing on the new stuff, as it's more popular, and they only played 1 or 2 songs from each post-A4 album at the Resonance tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 28, 2015, 09:01:36 AM
The setlist is pretty good, I think. Nothing like Resonance, of course, but I'm still really looking forward to Temporary Peace, Electricity and all the DS songs.

Side note, I don't like A Natural Disaster (the track) nearly as much as the band seems to. I can understand why it's been a fixture in their shows, since it gives Vinnie a little bit of a break and lets Lee showcase her skills more, but it's always been my least favorite song on the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on August 29, 2015, 09:42:25 AM
8/15 songs are also in Universal - I think they could have gone for a bit more variety there and play more of the older stuff but I guess being acoustic will be enough of a novelty to make it good. I think I'll get just the blu-ray, I don't like listening to live CDs anyway.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on September 05, 2015, 02:09:19 PM
The Tour Edition of Distant Satellites is up on Spotify. I really recommend it, the acoustic tracks are magical.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on September 12, 2015, 05:49:19 AM
There've been several mentions of a U.S. tour this year from the band. In one interview I even read something about two tours. But with their current tour schedule I don't see where it could possibly fit in. In a recent interview Vincent said that the cruise would be their last show of the year. So...  :huh:  :-[  :'(

Maybe next year?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 12, 2015, 06:53:36 PM
Currently listening to one of my very favorite Anathema songs, Distant Satellites

I do hope they continue in the electronica direction for the next album
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 13, 2015, 05:38:44 AM
There've been several mentions of a U.S. tour this year from the band. In one interview I even read something about two tours. But with their current tour schedule I don't see where it could possibly fit in. In a recent interview Vincent said that the cruise would be their last show of the year. So...  :huh:  :-[  :'(

Maybe next year?
Obviously they've got visas already (since they played ProgPower), so maybe the promoters screwed up? Either way, that sucks for the US fans and kind of defeats the purpose of the "tour edition" of DS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 09, 2015, 10:08:22 AM
Anathema, from A Sort of Homecoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7TOJt5bQtU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7TOJt5bQtU)

I really like that violin.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on October 09, 2015, 10:22:35 AM
it sounds so much more lovely live. I cant wait to hear the rest.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RandalGraves on October 26, 2015, 09:34:51 PM
So, I've heard the band name Anathema thrown around every now and again. Frankly, I don't remember if I ever gave them a listen before.

So I see their name again for their upcoming live release and decide, "What the hell? I'll check out a song." I go to you YouTube, type in 'Anathema' and just click on the first video that comes up. Weather Systems complete album. Cool.

Now, I maybe run across a song that I get really emotionally attached to once a year. Maybe. The last song I was really into was Steven Wilson's The Raven That Refused to Sing. And the minute he starts singing in Untouchable Part I...I was just enamored. The harmonies were absolutely beautiful and the lyrics heart-wrenching. Since then (this was probably a week and a half ago), I've been obsessed with Untouchable Parts 1 and 2. The rest of the album is pretty damn great, although I haven't given the last 3 tracks many spins, as I'll inevitably just cycle back to the first two because I mostly listen to music in my car on the way to/from work.

With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on October 26, 2015, 09:45:34 PM
With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!
Awesome! ? did a discography thread of them a couple of weeks ago, so I recommend you give it a read  :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RandalGraves on October 26, 2015, 09:58:28 PM
With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!
Awesome! ? did a discography thread of them a couple of weeks ago, so I recommend you give it a read  :tup

That is perfect! I was going to ask where I should jump to next, but it sounds the leg work has been done! Thanks!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on October 26, 2015, 10:40:01 PM
I'd just recommend listening to their last album now, and then working your way backwards through their discography, with help of the thread  ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 27, 2015, 05:00:55 AM
I'd also recommend checkimg out the live performance of Untouchable Pt. 1, released yesterday from their upcoming DVD A Sort of Homecoming, if you haven't yet. I'd post the link if I wasn't on my phone and if it wasn't sp easy to find.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on October 27, 2015, 06:55:57 AM
So, I've heard the band name Anathema thrown around every now and again. Frankly, I don't remember if I ever gave them a listen before.

So I see their name again for their upcoming live release and decide, "What the hell? I'll check out a song." I go to you YouTube, type in 'Anathema' and just click on the first video that comes up. Weather Systems complete album. Cool.

Now, I maybe run across a song that I get really emotionally attached to once a year. Maybe. The last song I was really into was Steven Wilson's The Raven That Refused to Sing. And the minute he starts singing in Untouchable Part I...I was just enamored. The harmonies were absolutely beautiful and the lyrics heart-wrenching. Since then (this was probably a week and a half ago), I've been obsessed with Untouchable Parts 1 and 2. The rest of the album is pretty damn great, although I haven't given the last 3 tracks many spins, as I'll inevitably just cycle back to the first two because I mostly listen to music in my car on the way to/from work.

With that said, I read a bit about the band's history and am really excited to dive into their discography!
:tup I'm similar with the emotional attachment thing. Anathema are such a unique band for me, they just evoke so much feeling in me that I don't get from any other bands tbh.

I'd also recommend checkimg out the live performance of Untouchable Pt. 1, released yesterday from their upcoming DVD A Sort of Homecoming, if you haven't yet. I'd post the link if I wasn't on my phone and if it wasn't sp easy to find.
Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UBdJLqCI0Q)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RandalGraves on October 27, 2015, 11:19:43 AM
Thanks for the head's up, guys! That performance looks fantastic, as does the venue. I may have to trek out to the local CD shop to see if they'll have it. Speaking of...

(https://www.burningshed.com/covers/large5137.jpg)

My local shop has this in stock but it's PAL. Does anyone know if they did an NTSC release? I checked Burning Shed but that's PAL as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on October 27, 2015, 01:03:37 PM
www.lasercd.com just put it out in stock

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 30, 2015, 03:05:26 PM
Just picked it up

(https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1038/cover_132917392015_r.jpg)

So very good, and the acoustics are incredible. Love this band  :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on October 31, 2015, 05:25:00 AM
I haven't gotten my copy yet, but just listening to a couple audio fragments on YouTube (trying not to spoil it for myself) it's sounds fantastic
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on November 09, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
I was just reading up on Bam Margera from "Jackass," and I noticed he now has an Anathema tattoo across the front of his neck.  I don't picture him liking them, so it surprised me.  Here's a pic: https://www.instagram.com/p/8dfqG-Sg6H/?taken-by=bam__margera
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 14, 2015, 08:41:40 AM
Just listened to A Sort of Homecoming and honestly it was a bit underwhelming. Not bad, but not as good as Universal was, and I feel like it was too scaled down for its own good. Some of the new versions, like Electricity or Temporary Peace were really nice, but some of the better new songs felt a bit under-developed kinda. Compared to what's probably the best progressive rock acoustic/unplugged live album 12:5, this didn't feel as magical or special. Still, enjoyable, but a lot of the songs just felt scaled down and the simplicity didn't really add anything to them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 14, 2015, 09:02:29 AM
Just listened to A Sort of Homecoming and honestly it was a bit underwhelming. Not bad, but not as good as Universal was, and I feel like it was too scaled down for its own good. Some of the new versions, like Electricity or Temporary Peace were really nice, but some of the better new songs felt a bit under-developed kinda. Compared to what's probably the best progressive rock acoustic/unplugged live album 12:5, this didn't feel as magical or special. Still, enjoyable, but a lot of the songs just felt scaled down and the simplicity didn't really add anything to them.

After a couple more listens, I totally agree.

The scaling back makes Some of the songs feel like shells of their former selves. They lose the power and oomph, which made me originally love them in the first place and I found myself actually just wanting to listening to the original songs.

Oh well. At the very least, the acoustics of that cavernous cathedral were cool/interesting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 14, 2015, 10:04:41 AM
Yeah I agree. Also, I don't "get" why this is a double album. It could have been neat if this was a single disc, maybe 60-70 minutes of acoustic/unplugged songs that were re-arranged and sounded drastically different and added new elements, but with most of the songs, they just sound the same but more hollow. You describe it well with the songs feeling like shells of their original versions.

For example, I think they should have thrown in some songs that are known for being more upbeat, slightly heavier and more electric guitar focused. That way, the acoustic/unplugged version is drastically different and they have more freedom to toy around. But when the setlist is almost entirely songs that are already ballads (or to the softer side of the band), the result just sounds like less full versions. The best part about songs like Thin Air or the Untouchables is the build-up and climax, and the richness of their sound. Scale them down to acoustic versions and they get less interesting.

Still, cred to them for including at least a few surprises (IMO) like Electricity and Temporary Peace. Personally I think it would be cool if they had altered the setlist even more. Instead of getting A Natural Disaster again, maybe do Harmonium or Flying? Maybe something from Judgement? One Last Goodbye or Forgotten Hopes would have been cool. Maybe instead of Fragile Dreams (which is always played), maybe throw in Regret or Lost Control for the surprise. I think as a complementary live release to Universal, this one doesn't bring enough differences to the table. The songs you really like doesn't sound AS good here, and there aren't enough changes in the setlist. Sure, some Distant Satellites songs, but overall.. meh.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on December 01, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
Just passing by to remind you the greatness of Take Shelter. Bye.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on December 02, 2015, 04:24:16 PM
Just passing by to remind you the greatness of Take Shelter. Bye.

Amazingly beautiful song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 02, 2015, 05:20:13 PM
I love love LOVE the new acoustic version of Dreaming Light. It's so enchanting. I love Lee  :heart ______  :heart

Also, I don't think it's fair to compare this show to Universal. They are entirely different concepts, with their unique charms. That being said, I would've loved in DVD one of their 'anthology' shows, in which they played their early stuff as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on December 18, 2015, 10:44:13 AM
I'm listening to Falling Deeper for the first time and it's absolutely beautiful. Not only does it feature the beautiful Lee Douglas, but also the incomparable Anneke.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on December 27, 2015, 07:43:51 PM
(https://i65.tinypic.com/ipxpjs.jpg)

Bigger (https://i65.tinypic.com/ipxpjs.jpg).

Hey folks, I'm admin at this prog page, and we started doing flowcharts to prog bands, like DT and Gazpacho. I commited to making an Anathema one because they're my favorite band. So, it's almost finished and I wanted to know what you think of it  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on December 28, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
I think you did a great job with it. It's so hard to label them because of their ever-changing sound and style. When it comes to them, there's always going to be at least one release of theirs that someone can appreciate. Not many bands can say that. Usually when bands find a sound they like, they usually stick with it, and it's usually to the point of monotony. It's either you like them or you hate them.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on January 26, 2016, 07:34:24 PM
Thanks! I will publish it in a few days (and post the finished version here), but if any of you guys have any suggestions, they'll be more than welcome  :smiley:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on January 27, 2016, 03:12:23 AM
Thanks! I will publish it in a few days (and post the finished version here), but if any of you guys have any suggestions, they'll be more than welcome  :smiley:

You should include Danny's side project that he released, A Place To Be. Also, since they are such an ever-changing band as far as musicality, maybe include a couple of different starting points. Like metal fans can start at Serenades, lighter prog fans can start at We're Here Because We're Here, and that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 03:16:49 AM
Guess I need to try out Weather Systems according to that chart then  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on January 27, 2016, 05:45:04 AM
Guess I need to try out Weather Systems according to that chart then  :metal

Go. Check it now!   :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kaos2900 on January 27, 2016, 06:33:09 AM
Guess I need to try out Weather Systems according to that chart then  :metal

Go. Check it now!   :)

This. Weather Systems is one of the best albums released in this millennium.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Train of Naught on January 27, 2016, 06:58:01 AM
Definitely going on the list, but I just don't have the time for music at the moment.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Scorpion on January 27, 2016, 04:08:38 PM
I find both WHBWH and WS massively overrated, but given how many people dig them, chances are you'll like them too. Personally, I've always been more of a fan of their darker stuff like Judgment and Alternative 4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 28, 2016, 12:32:33 AM
I probably do enjoy their older stuff more, but WHBWH definitely deserves the great reputation. Universal and Thin Air would both be in my top3 Anathema songs, but I wouldn't place anything from WS or DS THAT high.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 12, 2016, 06:05:58 PM
So it's finally out! This is the final version  :smiley:

(https://oi64.tinypic.com/169qicz.jpg)

Bigger. (https://oi64.tinypic.com/169qicz.jpg)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on February 13, 2016, 09:34:42 AM
Awesome. I'm loving it. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 13, 2016, 10:26:57 AM
It's a cool idea to make a flow chart and I enjoy reading them, but I still think it makes much more sense to start with the first album and just work through the discography that way. Alternatively, I guess I just don't think so much about these kinds of things, but I don't see why Judgement would be a better starting album than WHBWH or any other album. I say WHBWH because that's the first one I got into, not that I necessarily like it any more than Judgement or Eternity or even Serenades.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on February 13, 2016, 10:53:36 AM
It's a cool idea to make a flow chart and I enjoy reading them, but I still think it makes much more sense to start with the first album and just work through the discography that way. Alternatively, I guess I just don't think so much about these kinds of things, but I don't see why Judgement would be a better starting album than WHBWH or any other album. I say WHBWH because that's the first one I got into, not that I necessarily like it any more than Judgement or Eternity or even Serenades.

You don't see a problem recommending a death-doom metal album for a band that has primarily played prog rock for 18 years?! Not to mention it's a little difficult for the vast majority of listeners to be open-minded and try any death metal at all.

It's the same as recommending people try Katatonia by starting with Dance of December Souls. For metalheads that listen to doom, sure, but not for anyone else.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 10:58:15 AM
I chose Judgement because it's the fan-favorite :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 13, 2016, 11:06:07 AM
It's a cool idea to make a flow chart and I enjoy reading them, but I still think it makes much more sense to start with the first album and just work through the discography that way. Alternatively, I guess I just don't think so much about these kinds of things, but I don't see why Judgement would be a better starting album than WHBWH or any other album. I say WHBWH because that's the first one I got into, not that I necessarily like it any more than Judgement or Eternity or even Serenades.

You don't see a problem recommending a death-doom metal album for a band that has primarily played prog rock for 18 years?! Not to mention it's a little difficult for the vast majority of listeners to be open-minded and try any death metal at all.

It's the same as recommending people try Katatonia by starting with Dance of December Souls. For metalheads that listen to doom, sure, but not for anyone else.

No, I don't see a problem recommending it. I'd just make sure to remind them that if they don't like it there will be a lot of other stuff later on that might be more their cup of tea. Let them make their own minds up.

And anyways, even if you're right about this problem, it could similarly be applied to Judgement. Not to the same degree, I know, but Anathema has changed a lot since Judgement came out.

As for Judgement being a fan favorite, that's a fair point. But it's really not that much more of a fan favorite than Alt. 4, WHBWH or WS, if at all.

ETA: And if they're not going to be open minded about these things, then why would I trying to recommend them new music in the first place?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 11:16:09 AM
While I agree A4 might be another good starting point, it's very depressive nature might turn off some newcomers, whereas Judgement is just sad and melancholic. And I've found that WHBWH and WS are fan favorites only on DTF, and I made the flowchart for another audience on FB, so starting with any of those albums wouldn't be my recommendation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on February 13, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
I would say Judgement is to Anathema what In Absentia was for PT. Not necessarily the best (even though Judgement is my personal favorite), but the ONE that fans really hold the highest. With both bands there's several albums fans hold really high though, so it's really no shame being in the shadow of one.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on February 13, 2016, 11:23:38 AM
Judgement is definitely a worthy starting place and, overall, somewhere near the top of where I'd rank the albums.

I guess I just wanted to say that there are at least a couple other really good starting places, which has more to do with the great consistency of the discography.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on February 13, 2016, 11:27:10 AM
Definitely, you could start with virtually any of their albums, but I had to choose just one record, so :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on February 13, 2016, 11:29:24 AM
I think there are a couple of worthy starting points and personally would have chosen A4. It was that CD where the band wanted to strip down their sound completely and take a new direction with the music.  However Judgment is definitely an excellent choice. Deep and One Last Goodbye are brilliant songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on February 13, 2016, 11:31:45 AM
A4 is fantastic, one of my favourites along with WS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on April 05, 2016, 12:38:01 PM
Could we see a new album later this year? Danny already started writing like a month ago, Vincent met with his manager shortly after so I guess there's still time for them to enter the studio within the next months and deliver it around November. Pure speculation I know, but I'm excited for the new, more electronic direction they said they'd be taking.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on April 05, 2016, 01:44:52 PM
Mmm, maybe but I would think next year is a more realistic timeframe. I hope I'm wrong though
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on April 26, 2016, 10:12:04 PM
I was just listening to The Lost Child and at 4:50, it sounds like someone says "what the shit". It's something that caught me by surprise. Has anyone else heard it?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on April 26, 2016, 11:19:53 PM
I was just listening to The Lost Child and at 4:50, it sounds like someone says "what the shit". It's something that caught me by surprise. Has anyone else heard it?

Nevermind that, can someone explain the "what's up?" at the end of Internal Landscapes?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 13, 2016, 06:05:07 AM
:bump:

Anathema has been playing some unreleased material on tour in Europe - apparently there are 6(!) new songs in the set: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/effenaar-eindhoven-netherlands-53fa2bc9.html

Also, Eternity turned 20 two days ago, so here's (https://www.musicalypse.net/1996-anathema-eternity/) a reworked version of the review I wrote for the Anathema discography thread.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 13, 2016, 07:26:33 AM
I am definitely up for some new material
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on November 13, 2016, 09:40:15 AM
Anathema has been playing some unreleased material on tour in Europe - apparently there are 6(!) new songs in the set: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/effenaar-eindhoven-netherlands-53fa2bc9.html

And they ended the show with the Judgement suite. Awesome.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on November 13, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
Would've loved to see this show. The setlist looks awesome even though I don't know if any of the new songs are good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on November 13, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
Here's a bootleg of Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDFWkZsilw), sounds great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 13, 2016, 11:17:48 AM
Here's a bootleg of Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDFWkZsilw), sounds great.
Ooh, I like it! You can tell it's Anathema right away, but it doesn't feel like a direct continuation of Distant Satellites. It's great to hear the guitars getting back to the front again and see John Douglas on drums instead of the electronic percussion. The lyrics seem to be a continuation of Barriers, though of course they may be changed before it gets recorded.
Anathema has been playing some unreleased material on tour in Europe - apparently there are 6(!) new songs in the set: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/effenaar-eindhoven-netherlands-53fa2bc9.html

And they ended the show with the Judgement suite. Awesome.
Yeah, looks like it replaced Fragile Dreams at the latest two shows. In France they closed with Metallica's Orion, though: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2016/big-band-cafe-herouville-saint-clair-france-2bfa2046.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on November 13, 2016, 09:28:26 PM
keep an eye on the Kscope Podcast (https://www.kscopemusic.com/podcasts/) as chances are they will include updates/interviews about the next record.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on November 13, 2016, 10:11:31 PM
Here's a bootleg of Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDFWkZsilw), sounds great.

Oooooh  :heart
Title: pls
Post by: Sacul on November 14, 2016, 07:44:26 AM
I think there's a chance the drums will be electronic when they record the new album, and I really hope they go into that direction - Distant Satellites is an amazing song imo.
Title: Re: pls
Post by: Phoenix87x on November 14, 2016, 05:46:51 PM
I think there's a chance the drums will be electronic when they record the new album, and I really hope they go into that direction - Distant Satellites is an amazing song imo.

I also enjoy the electronic sound
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TioJorge on November 15, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
Ditto to that. I listened to Distant Satellites (song) for the firs time in a while and it hit me hard. Gorgeous stuff. I do love the electronic side and sound from the band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on February 28, 2017, 04:43:58 PM
Are they going to release a new album sometime or what?

Its been like 3 years  :'(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on February 28, 2017, 04:57:29 PM
Are they going to release a new album sometime or what?

Its been like 3 years  :'(

I, too, have been curious about their whereabouts. They had a new album out every 2 years, so 2016 seemed like a prime time for their next studio album, but I haven't heard much.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on February 28, 2017, 06:33:11 PM
They've posted a few pics on FB recently suggesting they've been in the studio.

https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10154880505763629/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10154880505763629/?type=3&theater)
https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10154881122608629/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10154881122608629/?type=3&theater)
https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10155074812318629/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/photos/a.477269443628.264132.125049763628/10155074812318629/?type=3&theater)

Can't believe Distant Satellites came out so long ago  :omg:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on February 28, 2017, 07:42:04 PM
Per their Twitter account......

"A few firsts on this album: upright bass, trombone, flugelhorn, 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."

Also said they were on the way to Abbey Road to master the album back on February 17th.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 01, 2017, 03:08:14 AM
Nice. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kaos2900 on March 01, 2017, 06:44:43 AM
Sounds intriguing! Looking forward to what direction they go next.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 01, 2017, 07:22:16 AM
Per their Twitter account......
"A few firsts on this album:  1000 Argentinian backing singers..."

They're actually doing this? I will cry if that is true
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 01, 2017, 02:41:23 PM
Per their Twitter account......

"A few firsts on this album: upright bass, trombone, flugelhorn, 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."

Also said they were on the way to Abbey Road to master the album back on February 17th.
Sweet!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on March 01, 2017, 07:33:29 PM
Per their Twitter account......

"A few firsts on this album: upright bass, trombone, flugelhorn, 1000 Argentinian backing singers..."

Also said they were on the way to Abbey Road to master the album back on February 17th.

That sounds promising and intriguing. They've always managed to change things up with each album, bringing something fresh to the table.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on March 02, 2017, 12:00:59 AM
Sounds very interesting.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 10, 2017, 10:05:54 AM
Danny tweeted a photo from Abbey Road as well as the tracklist - apparently the record is (almost) done: https://www.twitter.com/Danny_Cavanagh/status/839886122624897024
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 10, 2017, 10:36:12 AM
Danny tweeted a photo from Abbey Road as well as the tracklist - apparently the record is (almost) done: https://www.twitter.com/Danny_Cavanagh/status/839886122624897024

:caffeine:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 10, 2017, 11:22:10 AM
I absolutely can not wait. I am so ready for some new material
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 10, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
excite.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 10, 2017, 03:01:57 PM
Looking squished and bricked there. Not that I expected it to be different, of course.

Hoping they post a song soon!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on March 16, 2017, 01:27:30 PM
That's awesome, I'm excited for the new album!

Looking squished and bricked there. Not that I expected it to be different, of course.
No, I didn't expect that either, but it is a bit of a shame.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on March 21, 2017, 02:49:00 AM
This might be the rarest piece of Anathema music. Apparently only five copies of this were made and four were given to the band. Who has the other one? Record label?

https://www.discogs.com/Anathema-The-Sweet-Suffering/release/2489531
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on March 24, 2017, 05:22:25 AM
The Optimist comes out June 9th.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema/anathema-reveal-details-cover-artwork-for-new-studio-album-the-optimist/10155255551173629/

Quote
optimist /ˈɒptɪmɪst/
noun: optimist; plural noun: optimists
1. a person who tends to be hopeful and confident about the future or the success of something.
2.  a person who believes that this world is the best of all possible worlds or that good must ultimately prevail over evil.
After Anathema’s 2012 award-winning album Weather Systems and 2014’s spellbinding Distant Satellites, the ambient rockers are back with their eleventh full-length, The Optimist. Due for release on 9th June through Kscope The Optimist will soon reveal some of the darkest, most challenging and unexpected music the sextet have put their name to.

Anathema, led by brothers Daniel and Vincent Cavanagh, along with drummer John Douglas, singer Lee Douglas, bassist Jamie Cavanagh and keyboardist Daniel Cardoso began recording The Optimist in the winter of 2016 at Attica Audio in Donegal, Ireland and then finished at Castle Of Doom studios in Glasgow with producer Tony Doogan [Mogwai, Belle & Sebastian, Super Furry Animals] at the helm. Vincent elaborates on Doogan’s influence on the recording process “he suggested that we record as a live band, which we hadn’t done for years. Having played a few tunes on the last tour, we were ready for that. Tony wanted to capture that energy you can only get with everyone facing each other… it makes a big difference. He was a superb guy to work with and I learned a lot making this record”

The idea for The Optimist was born from the front cover artwork of the band’s 2001 album A Fine Day To Exit Daniel Cavanagh explains “I suppose you might say the album is semi-autobiographical because this time we used a surrogate,” he says, of the character that is The Optimist “We put sound, feelings and crucially, our own hopes and fears into another person and made him the subject of the songs then weaving my own internal monologue into the narrative of The Optimist. It was John’s idea to write a narrative, so I took A Fine Day To Exit as the starting point”. Vincent elaborates further on the earlier album’s artwork influence “The guy who disappeared – you never knew what happened to him, did he start a new life? Did he succumb to his fate? It was never explained. The opening track title is the exact coordinates for Silver Strand beach in San Diego – the last known location of The Optimist – shown on the cover of A Fine Day to Exit.”
To continue the theme further, the band brought back designer and illustrator Travis Smith to create the artwork for The Optimist. The artwork was created from a series of photographs Smith took on a West Coast road trip.

With the character’s unresolved destiny the three song writing members, meticulously brought the unfinished story to an end – and most strikingly of all – one which is decided by the listener.

32.63N 117.14W (01:18)
Leaving It Behind (04:27)
Endless Ways (05:49)
The Optimist (05:37)
San Francisco (04:59)
Springfield (05:49)
Ghosts (04:17)
Can`t Let Go (05:00)
Close Your Eyes (03:39)
Wildfires (05:40)
Back To The Start (11:41)

Teaser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpjlNP50qUg
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 24, 2017, 05:29:00 AM
I am hyped
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on March 24, 2017, 06:43:34 AM
What a nice way to start off the day! 
Title: Fuck yeah
Post by: Sacul on March 24, 2017, 06:48:11 AM
I am hyped
This. I wonder if they'll go into a more electronic direction - considering they recorded it live maybe they won't, but who knows.

Also wait, is A Fine Day to Exit a concept album?  :o
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on March 24, 2017, 06:54:03 AM
What is that 11 minute track doing there?

This could well be interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on March 24, 2017, 07:25:04 AM
What is that 11 minute track doing there?

This could well be interesting indeed.

Sequel to "In the Dog's House" from AFDTE, of course! "Chiiiiickennnnnsssssss"
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on March 24, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
Excited for this. Going to buy this for sure, and also going to grab tickets for their Moscow show in June.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on March 24, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
So the album cover shows the band's name as "ana_thema"...now I am even more confused on how they pronounce their name. I thought it was "an-a-THE-ma" at first, but then read it to was supposed to be "a-NATH-e-ma", so I've been saying that for years.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on March 24, 2017, 10:03:24 AM
Excited, and will order this as soon as I can for sure.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Train of Naught on March 24, 2017, 10:03:50 AM
I think the "the" part is pronounced like "thay": A-na-thay-ma

That's how I've always seen it, but I might be wrong, it could be because "thema" is a Dutch word and it's pronounced like that so in my mind it's just "ana" + "thema".

"a-NATH-e-ma"
If this is actually correct I will be pretty disappointed :lol that sounds soooo ugly to me





Anyway, looking forward to the album
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Podaar on March 24, 2017, 10:05:51 AM
Hmmm, I've always pronounced it a-NA-them-a... :dunno:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on March 24, 2017, 10:23:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UATUFTNy6to

How to pronounce Anathema
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on March 24, 2017, 01:15:29 PM
Yeah, it's aNATHema. It's a word in English.

And unless they've done that silly thing of including silence and a hidden track, that last one will surely be one of their longest ever. Interesting that they've changed their logo as well, having used the same one since WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 24, 2017, 03:04:30 PM
New logo, new producer, recording live in the studio, a continuation of the AFDTE theme... :o The hype is real!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on March 24, 2017, 03:53:17 PM
Yeah, it's aNATHema. It's a word in English.

I figured as much as I've heard it before years ago, so the album logo and choice of underscore really confused me, unless it's meant to parallel the album title "the_optimist", in which case, it's a poor choice because it only confuses the band's name's pronunciation even more, as the underscore begs to be a syllabic break when spoken.

And unless they've done that silly thing of including silence and a hidden track, that last one will surely be one of their longest ever. Interesting that they've changed their logo as well, having used the same one since WHBWH.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album))

I love whoever wrote this article because of this line - "The song "Back to the Start" is their first over-ten-minutes song since A Natural Disaster."  :lol :lol :lol
I guess that's a pretty big deal for a band that rarely writes songs over 5 or 6 minutes long, but the wording just sounds a bit clunky to me.

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 24, 2017, 03:54:44 PM
I wish it was June so bad.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on March 25, 2017, 02:32:55 AM
No, that's Spock's Beard.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on March 26, 2017, 09:06:34 AM
Aww yes! I'm excited!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 27, 2017, 10:06:10 AM
Pretty Excited. Already got my tickets for the Buenos Aires show.

No, that's Spock's Beard.

 :lol :clap:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on March 27, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
Yeah, it's aNATHema. It's a word in English.

I figured as much as I've heard it before years ago, so the album logo and choice of underscore really confused me, unless it's meant to parallel the album title "the_optimist", in which case, it's a poor choice because it only confuses the band's name's pronunciation even more, as the underscore begs to be a syllabic break when spoken.

And unless they've done that silly thing of including silence and a hidden track, that last one will surely be one of their longest ever. Interesting that they've changed their logo as well, having used the same one since WHBWH.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimist_(Anathema_album))

I love whoever wrote this article because of this line - "The song "Back to the Start" is their first over-ten-minutes song since A Natural Disaster."  :lol :lol :lol
I guess that's a pretty big deal for a band that rarely writes songs over 5 or 6 minutes long, but the wording just sounds a bit clunky to me.

-Marc.

It is. It also doesn't need to be in that introduction. It's an interesting tidbit of info, but not *that* important.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on March 30, 2017, 04:39:19 AM
First track from the new album: Springfield (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1ROzCUpbU)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on March 30, 2017, 05:50:09 AM
Perfectly fine Anathema track. I do wish that the first song released would be something with a bit more to it. But this was still good, very recognisably them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 30, 2017, 07:01:28 AM
Agreed, a very Anathema song.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 30, 2017, 07:11:21 AM
I really liked it. The sparingly use of the vocals made it feel different and it had an older Anathema vibe to it, mixed with the sound of the newer albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on March 30, 2017, 10:35:35 AM
The lyrics seem to be a continuation of Barriers, though of course they may be changed before it gets recorded.
They didn't, but it makes a lot more sense now for obvious reasons. :biggrin:

The band announced a Euro tour for the fall, so I'll see them in November! I wonder if they'll bring back some AFDTE material into the setlist due to the connection between these two records... I'd personally love it, because AFDTE is my 4th favorite album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 30, 2017, 10:46:11 AM
Fuck me sideways, i love this new track.

They played it live and i heard it a little while back, but it is totally cemented in my brain and i love it
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on March 30, 2017, 10:46:52 AM
Did they record the song in the dark or is that a special filter or something?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on March 30, 2017, 11:35:54 AM
I liked it. Typical Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on March 30, 2017, 01:36:18 PM
Liked the new song. I heard also Ghosts and John Martyn live, and the last one is my favourite but I don't see it in the tracklist of the new album. Maybe it's a cover or they have changed the title, I don't know.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on March 30, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
I liked it. Typical Anathema.

this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on March 30, 2017, 03:59:00 PM
Read a hilarious comment on a Facebook post sharing the new song: it was something along the lines of "How can you make a song with 2 notes and expect it to sound good?!"  :rollin

I mean, sure, the melody isn't much, but the song, and their music over all, is about MOOD and FEEL, the atmosphere of it all. Someone obviously doesn't get Anathema...

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 30, 2017, 04:17:17 PM
I agree 100%

Less is more some times and there is an elegance in its simplicity. Bottom line, its a hauntingly beautiful and addictive ass song dripping with passion and emotion.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on April 01, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
At first I thought the song was too simplistic for Anathema


Then it exploded in my face

Love it
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: home on April 05, 2017, 10:11:16 AM
At first I thought the song was too simplistic for Anathema


Then it exploded in my face

Love it
Exactly my thoughts, the melody at the first part is very simple, but the way it explodes is just amazing
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 17, 2017, 01:25:48 PM
I really dig A sort of homecoming. The stripped down sound and those beautiful acoustics are chilling. A particular standout is A natural disaster, which I had heard for the first time on this album. So good
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on April 17, 2017, 01:51:05 PM
At first I thought the song was too simplistic for Anathema


Then it exploded in my face

Love it

It's like having sex with someone for the first time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on April 18, 2017, 03:14:53 PM
U.S. dates...

August 16 Baltimore, MD Soundstage
August 17 New York, NY Gramercy Theater
August 18 Boston, MA Brighton Music Hall
August 19 Quebec, QC Saile Multi
August 20 Montreal, QC Astral
August 21 Toronto, ON Opera House
August 23 Chicago, IL Bottom Lounge
August 24 Cleveland, OH House of Blues
August 25 Philadelphia, PA Theatre of Living Arts

any Chicago area peeps been to the Bottom Lounge before? might consider making the trip.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on April 18, 2017, 03:15:51 PM
I'll be in Philly for sure.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on April 18, 2017, 04:02:42 PM
Hell yeah philly, that's an awesome venue  :metal
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on April 18, 2017, 04:58:51 PM
So Haken, Neal Morse and Anathema are playing in Boston while I'm on vacation.  This is the bomb!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on April 18, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
New York it is!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 02, 2017, 09:49:59 AM
Ticket purchased!

So, I completely forgot they played most of the new album during their last tour, so I'm downloading two of the bootlegs right now. I also came across a 1995 bootleg on Dime which has a nice setlist for fans of the older music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 03, 2017, 02:38:31 PM
First review of the new album

https://www.prog-sphere.com/reviews/anathema-the-optimist-review/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kaos2900 on May 04, 2017, 07:46:20 AM
Can't wait for this!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 12, 2017, 11:05:51 AM
New review

https://metalwani.com/2017/05/review-anathema-the-optimist.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 12, 2017, 11:31:27 AM
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 12, 2017, 11:48:29 AM
New review

https://metalwani.com/2017/05/review-anathema-the-optimist.html

This review has too many spoilers for me. I liked the other one better to be honest.


I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...

So much this
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on May 12, 2017, 01:26:01 PM
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...

Do you think that it'll come out soon?

Does that make you... the optimist?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 12, 2017, 02:01:39 PM
I need another single SO bad. This wait is killing me...

Do you think that it'll come out soon?

Does that make you... the optimist?

:neverusethis:

Actually, everyday the wait continues, I find myself falling deeper into depression, since there's not a decent Alternative 4 this fantastic band. But I can't pass Judgement based off on just one song, but the release date feels so far away that's it feel like a Distant satellite. I am so sad from this wait that feels like an Eternity that people are starting to think I am a Silent enigma. If it gets any worse, it might just be a fine day to exit

 :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 22, 2017, 05:56:11 AM
There's another new Anathema song on Spotify - Can't Let Go. I like it. It's upbeat but I prefer the darker mood of Springfield.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 22, 2017, 05:59:26 AM
i worship Anathema, but its just meh for me
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2017, 06:26:21 AM
Gotta say their new album is their best since WHBWH imo.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 22, 2017, 06:41:40 AM
Now I am dying to hear the album
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 22, 2017, 06:54:10 AM
I think the problem with this new song are the drums, everything else is nice but the fact that the drums are so repetitive makes me lose interest at some point. Maybe within the context of the album this will work better but as a stand alone song it's just average.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2017, 06:55:55 AM
Depends a bit on what side of Anathema you prefer though. This is a bit of a return to A Fine Day to Exit/A Natural Disaster but blending it with their newer sound. I've enjoyed their last couple of albums quite a bit but I could definitely see some point to the argument that Weather Systems and Distant Satellites "played it safe". (I still really liked both, though not as much as WHBWH or Judgement) I feel like with The Optimist, I think some will really like it and some might be lukewarm on it, but I don't feel the "played it safe" argument applies. They definitely tried to change things up a bit. :)

Also the songs released so far (while great) are not the big standouts of the album, but they do work better in the context of it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 22, 2017, 07:18:42 AM
 :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on May 22, 2017, 10:15:59 AM
I like the new song. Only heard it once, but my first impression is that I like it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 22, 2017, 01:00:24 PM
Which? The new song or the new new song?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on May 22, 2017, 01:18:36 PM
Can't Let Go.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 22, 2017, 01:46:49 PM
It's good, but... This might be nitpicking but I feel like the pace is too fast.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on May 23, 2017, 12:20:11 AM
I guess I see what you mean, but it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 23, 2017, 05:19:24 AM
It's a lot faster than what I'm used to with their music. That's all. It'll grow on me I'm sure. Their first couple of albums took a while to get into.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on May 23, 2017, 06:34:32 AM
I've actually never listened to any of the stuff from before WHBWH. Maybe I should. It's just hard to find time these days to dive deep into music like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on May 23, 2017, 06:49:47 AM
Their first few albums were darker, had the death growls, but still had the same poetic lyrics. Eternity was their first full move away from the growls though some songs on The Silent Enigma had clean vocals.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 23, 2017, 07:23:42 AM
I'd say The Silent Enigma was mostly clean vocals except Vincent used a different singing technique and the vocals sounded harsher and rawer because that was the kind of music they made back then. The Silent Enigma is actually one of my favorite Anathema albums. It's Doom, it's heavy and a metal album essentially, but the quality in the songwriting is there. If you are hesitant about earlier Anathema but like their last few albums, pretty much anything from Alternative 4 and forward should be enjoyable to you. Just start with A Natural Disaster and work your way backwards.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on May 23, 2017, 05:43:32 PM
I'd say The Silent Enigma was mostly clean vocals except Vincent used a different singing technique and the vocals sounded harsher and rawer because that was the kind of music they made back then.

He yells and sometimes screams, but definitely doesn't growl. Vincent never had. Only Serenades has growls – from Pentecost III (a tremendous EP!) onward, it was lamenting cleans and yells. The musical style, of course, didn't truly 'lighten' until Eternity, and moreso on A4.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on May 24, 2017, 09:28:26 AM
Gotta say their new album is their best since WHBWH imo.

I would disagree. Been listening to it a good bit and while I certainly accept it is very beautiful, there just isn't as much to hook or wow me as there has been on previous albums so far.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 25, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
My favorite Anathema song is Internal landscapes. For me its the high water mark and has left me in tears multiple times and has helped me through some tough shit, when I just needed a song like that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on May 25, 2017, 12:36:49 PM
Gotta say their new album is their best since WHBWH imo.

I would disagree. Been listening to it a good bit and while I certainly accept it is very beautiful, there just isn't as much to hook or wow me as there has been on previous albums so far.

I didn't have any expectations about The Optimist, but it's a good album. I appreciate that it sounds a bit different from the previous two-three albums.
I liked Distant Satellites but I would have been tired and uninterested of hearing the same formula again, even with great songs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on May 25, 2017, 03:22:27 PM
I hope Can't Let Go is only the bad song on the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 25, 2017, 04:07:33 PM
New interview with Danny 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQKXh8OZXYA
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 25, 2017, 06:37:02 PM
That sucks it got leaked. Danny sounds super let down
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 08, 2017, 04:50:58 PM
Tomorrow...

I need it sooo bad.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on June 09, 2017, 01:06:49 AM
That 11:40 track is not 11:40 at all, as I kind of expected. 7:30-ish, then 3 minutes of silence and a hidden track. So Anathema's contribution to the great pantheon of prog epics will have to wait.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 09, 2017, 06:02:29 AM
Yeah it's only about 7 minutes. Still, probably the best song on the album, so something to look forward to. ;)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: kaos2900 on June 09, 2017, 07:05:21 AM
Will be picking this up later today. For those who have already heard it how does it compare to their last 3 albums?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 09, 2017, 07:20:36 AM
Will be picking this up later today. For those who have already heard it how does it compare to their last 3 albums?

I think that will depend on you. I really loved the last 3 albums on the first listen which was not the case with this one. I will need to give it a few more spins to really appreciate it (listening to it while you're working is not the best for a 1st listen).

And I will agree with Zantera here, Back to the start is the best song in the album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on June 09, 2017, 07:26:55 AM
Listening now
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on June 09, 2017, 08:46:40 AM
I've got a physical copy of The Optimist yesterday at the band's gig in Moscow, but haven't had the chance to listen to it yet. They've played some new songs, some of them sounded solid and pretty good to me, some not so much.

THERE ARE SETLIST SPOILERS BELOW

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/yotaspace-moscow-russia-13e761c9.html

Out of the new songs, I really liked how Springfield worked as an opener, and I also liked Endless Ways a lot (although I suppose they could've cut down the number of "the dream I'm creating" lines in the end). I thought Leaving it Behind and Can't Let Go were both alright. Don't remember much about the title track, and I didn't like Wildfires. Perhaps that would change when I listen to the studio version.

I wish they had stopped playing Closer and Distant Satellites. That's the second time I saw both songs live, and I thoroughly dislike both. :)

Highlights from the older material were Pressure, A Natural Disaster (nothing new here, but I just love this song) and whole encore. The Judgment block of songs was fantastic, and of course Untouchable Pt. 1 was awesome too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 09, 2017, 09:30:57 AM
Yeah it's only about 7 minutes. Still, probably the best song on the album, so something to look forward to. ;)
BUT TITLE TRACK
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on June 09, 2017, 10:38:01 AM
Did my usual routine, listened to the album for the first time in my car down by the ocean with a nice view. Still only heard it once and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. I have no idea why, but I expected to not be very impressed by this, and while some songs are a bit overly repetitive, I thought almost all songs were really nice. Except for maybe Wildfires, didn't love that one.

I'm listening to San Francisco right now again. Wonderful track to have on in the background, I love the feel it has.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on June 09, 2017, 01:41:22 PM
I know that The Optimist has only just come out, but I've actually ordered Weather Systems, so that should be here next week. As a personal "milestone", it will be the 200th album in my collection.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 09, 2017, 02:19:02 PM
Second listen is going so much better than the first. I'm really liking this album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 09, 2017, 03:17:45 PM
I didn't get my CD today :( It was shipped yesterday though, so it should definitely be here tomorrow..
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 09, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
With the exception of a couple of songs, I don't like it.


1. 32.63n 117.14w  - Pretty much nothing

2. Leaving it behind- Not much going on, very straitforward

3. Endless ways- Beautiful

4. The optimist - Decent

5. San francisco- Pretty much nothing

6. Springfield- I love it

7. Ghosts- Pretty good

8. Can't let go- up beat, chipper and straitforward. No thanks

9. Close you eyes- Not bad, but I feel like the horn section clashes with the song.

10. Wildfires- Ok i guess

11. Back to start- so so

What the hell happened. There feels like there's conflicting ideas here. Overall, for me its missing that somber, tragic beauty that Anathema usually brings.

People seem to be digging it, and that is great. I just myself am not really feeling it all that much.

In the meantime, I will always have Weather systems, which to me is a god tier masterpiece, which I shall bow down and worship until the day that I breathe my last breath.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 10, 2017, 03:34:03 AM
The new album is easily better than Weather Systems
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 10, 2017, 06:08:47 AM
People seem to be digging it, and that is great. I just myself am not really feeling it all that much.
Likewise, which is a pity because they've been one of my favourite bands for the last few years. It was bound to happen at some point though, it's been a long time since they released an album that I didn't love.

Not sure exactly what's not quite clicking with me, but one of the things I'm not too keen on is that there seems to be a lack of Vincent. Even in most of the sections he does sing, it doesn't seem to hit me with the same punch or emotion that his vocals have done in the past. Another thing is that a lot of the album sounds a bit too much like Radiohead for my liking.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Onno on June 10, 2017, 12:03:59 PM
Got my CD today! I've only had time to listen to the album twice however, and I was doing other stuff while listening. So I'm gonna need some more listens to judge.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on June 10, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
Well, as a die-hard Anathema fan from the begining this album could be worst of their "changed era" I listen it so many times in two days and I don't feel like re-visit anytime soon. I've never felt like this before for Anathema.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on June 10, 2017, 06:35:54 PM
Well, as a die-hard Anathema fan from the begining this album could be worst of their "changed era" I listen it so many times in two days and I don't feel like re-visit anytime soon. I've never felt like this before for Anathema.

Same here. Endless Ways might be my all time favorite Anathema track but the rest of the album just doesn't do it for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: gazinwales on June 11, 2017, 03:19:52 AM
It sounds very disjointed to say the least.
Almost like it was rushed, some songs sound unfinished and even like they are rough demo's or even jams.
Very disappointing to say the least.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2017, 04:37:11 AM
Considering the previous 2 albums were lesser versions of WHBWH I think it's baffling to call it disappointment when they finally break that pattern and do something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy WS and DS but at this point I almost forgot Anathema could do something else musically so this album was a breath of fresh air in that sense.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on June 11, 2017, 06:34:19 AM
I would say Weather Systems is far superior to We're Here Because We're Here, in my opinion. I agree about Distant Satellites though, it felt like a lesser version of these two.

After two listens, I'm not a fan of the new album. I'll keep spinning it during the upcoming week, but so far it didn't click with me. I do like Springfield and Endless Ways, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 11, 2017, 11:51:56 AM
Didn't like this one, vocal melodies throughout seem subpar, production sounds weird as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on June 12, 2017, 05:33:26 AM
Endless Ways is gorgeous. Lee's voice is angelic.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nick on June 12, 2017, 07:33:10 AM
this album could be worst of their "changed era"

This is my reaction as well as the reaction of some Anathema fans I've talked to elsewhere. Zantera aside I'd say it definitely seems like the prevailing opinion. While I do agree with Zantera that it's nice they tried some new things, new things does not always mean better or well executed. If they continue in this vein it will be interesting to see if the next album is better executed.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on June 12, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
I definitely like that they've done something a bit different. I also think there is some absolutely wonderful stuff across the album. The title track gives me chills every time.

But the last two albums have been absolute favourites of mine (WS is literally my favourite ever album) and The Optimist just doesn't live up to that. Overall I think's a smidge behind We're Here as well, but it's around that quality level for me, roughly on a par with A Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on June 12, 2017, 12:29:16 PM
Weather Systems arrived this morning. I listened this afternoon. The ending of The Storm Before the Calm is awesome! Just so euphoric, like plenty of Anathema moments. You have this great buildup (from the quiet bit in the middle of the song), and the payoff is worth it!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on June 12, 2017, 01:03:10 PM
Weather Systems arrived this morning. I listened this afternoon. The ending of The Storm Before the Calm is awesome! Just so euphoric, like plenty of Anathema moments. You have this great buildup (from the quiet bit in the middle of the song), and the payoff is worth it!

That song took a few listens before I got into it and then I wondered what took so long because it's such a great song.  :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on June 12, 2017, 02:47:33 PM
Love this band more than life itself. The Optimist is a little different for sure, and it usually takes me a long time to really get an Anathema album. I really like the continued and expanded use of electronics but so far this feel a bit more of a "mood piece" rather than a set of awesome songs. Time will tell.

FWIW I rank WHBHW, WS and DS about equal.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on June 17, 2017, 03:00:08 AM
I don't like the electronics and I don't think they did something different with this record. It is probably the weakest of their changed era, like already stated.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on June 17, 2017, 05:09:47 AM
I would probably agree with that. Still enjoy the album a lot though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on June 17, 2017, 09:04:26 AM
I've just got into early Anathema recently, i.e. Serenades, Pentecost III, Crestfallen, etc, and I find it so much more interesting than the new record.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 17, 2017, 09:53:06 AM
A lot of the old stuff is more interesting than what they have been doing since WHBWH period. There's great stuff through their career and an album like The Silent Enigma beats Weather Systems or Distant Satellites meanwhile those beat the somewhat awkward Eternity, which while I still like, is a bit of an awkward transitional album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SeRoX on June 17, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
I've just got into early Anathema recently, i.e. Serenades, Pentecost III, Crestfallen, etc, and I find it so much more interesting than the new record.

Well, Crestfallen is amazing. Still my favourite.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on June 17, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
A lot of the old stuff is more interesting than what they have been doing since WHBWH period. There's great stuff through their career and an album like The Silent Enigma beats Weather Systems or Distant Satellites meanwhile those beat the somewhat awkward Eternity, which while I still like, is a bit of an awkward transitional album.
I've just heard The Silent Enigma for the first time. Awesome. But I really love Weather Systems. One of my favorite albums of all time, easily.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on June 17, 2017, 12:20:05 PM
I listened to The Optimist for the first time a little bit ago and it was the first time I listened through an entire Anathema album. It's not bad, I need to go and check out the rest of their work, I've only hear a few songs here and there.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 17, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
I've just heard The Silent Enigma for the first time. Awesome. But I really love Weather Systems. One of my favorite albums of all time, easily.

Hell yeah Weather systems  :metal     You are talkin my language :hug:

My favorite Anathema album and one of my favorite albums off all time too. So damn good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on June 20, 2017, 12:01:38 AM
Considering the previous 2 albums were lesser versions of WHBWH I think it's baffling to call it disappointment when they finally break that pattern and do something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy WS and DS but at this point I almost forgot Anathema could do something else musically so this album was a breath of fresh air in that sense.

I agree with this, but I have only listened to the new album once and thought it was really good. That was probably because the setting was absolutely perfect; I listened to it for the first time on a drive home from a gig. It was the middle of the night, I was alone in the car and there was nobody on the roads. Really set the mood. I'll have to listen to it again in a more 'normal' setting, but my initial reaction was very positive and I don't get where all the negative stuff comes from. The breaking of the pattern is something I'll gladly embraces; I consider WHBWH to be their best album, but I am not a fan of Weather Systems or Distant Satellites, for I feel, like Zantera, like they are weaker, more uninspired versions of the same record. Especially Distant Satellites didn't do anything for me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on June 20, 2017, 01:48:04 AM
That 11:40 track is not 11:40 at all, as I kind of expected. 7:30-ish, then 3 minutes of silence and a hidden track. So Anathema's contribution to the great pantheon of prog epics will have to wait.

I don't consider Anathema to be a prog band that would write 'epics' in the same way other prog bands would, if Anathema are even a prog band. That said, they have a couple of epic songs, most notably (for me) A Simple Mistake from WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on June 20, 2017, 03:42:39 AM
I'd say Anathema is a prog band. A very unique one, but that's prabably what I'd call them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 20, 2017, 04:34:00 AM
I don't think you necessarily need long songs to be considered progressive rock, but even so, I feel like they have some songs that live up to that epicness. (A Simple Mistake, A Dying Wish, Universal, Hindsight, Regret, Violence etc)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on July 03, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
So, for the longest time, I was convinced that the band's name was pronounced "a-NATH-e-ma", after initially thinking it was "an-a-THE-ma".

Well, I asked the Anathema Facebook page about it after pointing out the underscore in their new album's cover, and lo and behold, it's actually "an-a-THE-ma", which isn't how most pronunciations of it are online.

Does anyone have any video clips of the band saying their own name on stage somewhere? lol

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: jcmoorehead on July 03, 2017, 10:45:57 AM
Does anyone have any video clips of the band saying their own name on stage somewhere? lol

I don't have a link to hand but on the Sort Of Homecoming CD/DVD before the song Anathema they say the name out loud a A-Nath-E-Ma
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on July 03, 2017, 10:55:23 AM
Does anyone have any video clips of the band saying their own name on stage somewhere? lol

I don't have a link to hand but on the Sort Of Homecoming CD/DVD before the song Anathema they say the name out loud a A-Nath-E-Ma

Maybe the band name and the song name are pronounced differently?  :rollin

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lethean on July 03, 2017, 11:53:13 AM
It's a-NATH-e-ma.  There are plenty of interviews where you can hear them saying the name - here are a few: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkh7LKqJLdY (right at the beginning); https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiegBvCSMnc (around 3 minutes), and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te6W3uG2GvI (right at the beginning), and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUCXITdYrZ4 (around 20 seconds).  So that's 3 of the band members. :)

Also that's how the word itself is pronounced too; there are multiple sites with pronunciation guides: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anathema?pronunciation&lang=en_us&file=anathe01.wav  or https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/english/anathema

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on July 03, 2017, 12:38:03 PM
https://rockmuzine.com/2017/07/03/interview-vincent-cavanagh-anathema-album-optimist/

Yet the first question asked, seems to suggest they changed the way it's pronounced more recently to cut ties with the past.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on July 03, 2017, 01:07:16 PM
https://rockmuzine.com/2017/07/03/interview-vincent-cavanagh-anathema-album-optimist/

Yet the first question asked, seems to suggest they changed the way it's pronounced more recently to cut ties with the past.

That's curious, and that's also something that just isn't going to work for me. We have a word "a-nath-ema" in Russian too, whereas "ana-the-ma" sounds downright silly. Beyond that, I don't think that changing the pronunciation of the band's name at this point in the career is a wise idea. But hey, as long as the band members agree on it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on July 03, 2017, 01:36:39 PM
Who cares about the pronounciation of the band's name? It has nothing to do with the music, it is just a name.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on July 03, 2017, 01:43:15 PM
Who cares about the pronounciation of the band's name? It has nothing to do with the music, it is just a name.

Well it's just topic relevant conversation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on July 03, 2017, 01:49:03 PM
I know this news is 7 years old now, but WHBWH is really great. I didn't get into Anathema until after Weather Systems (between that and Distant Satellites) and just started to finally buy some back catalog.  I got WHBWH and A Natural Disaster.

"Dreaming Light" almost makes me want to tear up.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lethean on July 03, 2017, 06:30:26 PM
https://rockmuzine.com/2017/07/03/interview-vincent-cavanagh-anathema-album-optimist/

Yet the first question asked, seems to suggest they changed the way it's pronounced more recently to cut ties with the past.

Thanks for that!  When I saw them last they were still saying Anathema on the stage, and I had no idea they decided to change it.  Good luck to them with that.  :)  I suppose it'll eventually take hold - first with new fans who don't know how the word itself is pronounced, then those that do but hear them saying it differently on stage, then eventually maybe everyone else.  Very odd move to me - wouldn't it make more sense just to choose a different name?  (Actually I think the most logical thing would have been to leave it alone, but clearly they didn't want to).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 05, 2017, 10:28:25 AM
The Optimist makes me want to go out for a drive on a rainy night.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zook on July 05, 2017, 10:01:16 PM
I've only listened once, but it didn't have that awe like the last 2 albums. Maybe it takes a few listens, but I was disappointed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on July 06, 2017, 01:40:31 AM
I listened to it again a couple of times and still think it is not so good.  :-\
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 06, 2017, 04:19:08 AM
I tried listening to it again too and am still very disappointed.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on July 06, 2017, 04:55:15 AM
It's not one of their best album but it holds up to Weather Systems and Distant Satellites for sure. Not as good as WHBWH or Judgement or their classics tho.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on July 06, 2017, 05:34:22 AM
I'm listening again now. It's such an intriguing piece of work. I mean, with them I'm used to something extraordinary but this seems even more explorative.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on July 06, 2017, 08:39:32 AM
Listened to the album again. It's not bad at all, good background music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on July 06, 2017, 08:47:43 AM
I like it and think its on par with their last couple albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on July 06, 2017, 12:30:07 PM
Hey guys, I've remade my Anathema flowchart to include the new album. I'd appreciate any feedback  ;D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KNQUryhbLcbGRUSll6Wm4zcjg/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on July 06, 2017, 06:33:11 PM
Hey guys, I've remade my Anathema flowchart to include the new album. I'd appreciate any feedback  ;D

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-KNQUryhbLcbGRUSll6Wm4zcjg/view?usp=sharing

That's a great flow chart. I am still trying to figure out how I would place the new one in to it though. It might be my own personal hearing, but it doesn't seem more electronic than DS, which I feel is their most electronic. The new one is more stripped down in sound, at least from what I am hearing.

Having an arrow go from A fine day to exit to The optimist makes sense.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: twosuitsluke on July 11, 2017, 05:21:08 AM
So I have just listened to The Optimist for the first time and it was ok. I'm a not really a fan as such and I've only listened to a few songs. I liked the closing two songs on this album, the rest was fairly forgettable on first listen tbh.

Back to working my way through other 2017 releases...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on July 11, 2017, 08:25:39 AM
"Endless Ways" just hit me like a ton of bricks
https://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/2017/07/anathema-endless-ways.html
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on July 11, 2017, 09:59:12 AM
"Endless Ways" just hit me like a ton of bricks
https://allmediareviews.blogspot.com/2017/07/anathema-endless-ways.html

I love that one, it hit hard for me as well.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Prog Snob on July 12, 2017, 05:26:16 AM
That's the first song that really clicked for me. It's something about the way she sings a song. Between her and Vinny, they are two exceedingly emotive singers.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 12, 2017, 08:07:18 AM
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weight
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on August 12, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
Huh, that's a way better setlist than we've got. Good for you guys!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 12, 2017, 03:33:31 PM
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weight
That must be a guitarist thing, aka the Steve Rothery effect :P

The recent Latin American setlists look pretty cool, plenty of Alt 4/Judgement stuff in rotation, and apparently Duncan Patterson joined them on stage in Mexico: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/el-plaza-condesa-mexico-city-mexico-2be53c9a.html I hope they'll keep at least some of those oldies for the Euro tour, though I think Vincent said they'll play the whole new album in some interview.

I'm looking forward to hearing the new songs live, because they might click properly in that environment (especially if they've got visuals) - right now I think the album is alright, but I'm a little bummed out by the little amount of vocals, and the music feels like a soundtrack to a movie that doesn't exist; in other words, it's nice background music, but doesn't totally captivate me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on August 13, 2017, 03:26:50 PM
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weight
All of this, fantastic gig! I was in fucking trance during The Storm Before the Calm, and crowd went fucking nuts with Closer and Fragile Dreams :2metal: Loved how they improvised and extended some sections of all songs a bit, whole band was on fire. Vinny teased they were talking about maybe coming back next year, hope they do!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on August 14, 2017, 07:55:07 AM
Last night's show was amazing! Setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/anathema/2017/groove-buenos-aires-argentina-43e50f0b.html) I love how engaging these guys are with the crowd, they bring a lot of energy and fun. But I must say, Danny needs to begin a diet right now, he's put on a lot of weight

I was watching a video from their most recent tours and it was from the (stage) left side (by Lee) and so you couldn't see Danny real well.. you just saw a bigger dude with headphones on. I was like "WHERE IS DANNY".. then a good enough shot came up and I'm like.. "OH that IS Danny"...

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Postwhore on August 18, 2017, 10:07:43 PM
Stunning show tonight. They sounded amazing.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/550x350q90/923/BcsXAA.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/f/pnBcsXAAj)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on August 24, 2017, 09:11:34 AM
Daniel has a solo album, "Monochrome", coming out in October.



Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on August 24, 2017, 10:46:19 AM
The single was pretty good. Nice and calm.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 24, 2017, 02:04:17 PM
Oh wow, Danny's vocals sure have come a long way since Barriers :o Nice song!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on August 25, 2017, 08:26:26 AM
I don't really get it. This sounds like Anathema 101 to me, I hope the rest of the album is something different. I don't get it when people put out solo albums that are pretty much their band-lite. Good song, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ninja1125 on August 25, 2017, 01:27:53 PM
I don't really get it. This sounds like Anathema 101 to me, I hope the rest of the album is something different. I don't get it when people put out solo albums that are pretty much their band-lite. Good song, though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ninja1125 on August 26, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
Anathema was great last night. They played deep and 1 last goodbye which both weren't on the setlist. Even though deep didn't sound all too great the band was having fun and that what matters.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on September 15, 2017, 09:49:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GPxPPOUVBc&feature=youtu.be

New video.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on September 15, 2017, 09:51:50 AM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on September 15, 2017, 10:00:16 AM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

Yep. I know a lot of people aren't digging it but I think it's a good disc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 15, 2017, 10:00:32 AM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

Well deserved
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on September 15, 2017, 10:21:37 AM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on September 15, 2017, 10:38:37 AM

I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?

Cuz this came out and they said "nothings gonna top that, lets just give it to Anathema now"
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 15, 2017, 10:45:31 AM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?

I'm guessing it was a lot cheaper doing the ceremony now than in a couple of months
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 15, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
or they don't really use the Christian Calendar for their "Album of the Year" time frame, much like I don't either, anymore.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 15, 2017, 11:20:52 AM
You think they're using some kind of prog calendar instead? Is there a prog calendar out there that I'm not aware of?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LPMX on September 15, 2017, 11:35:00 AM
Their rules aren't publically available as far as I can tell but judging by the albums in competition, we can safely assume that an album has to be released between July 1st and June 30th of the next year to be nominated for an award.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on September 15, 2017, 12:48:23 PM
I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?

They'll be considered for the 2018 ceremony. The Prog Awards always happen around now, so it's been a year since the last one. In fact, one of the nominated albums was F.E.A.R. by Marillion, which came out in September 2016. So their eligibility rules don't follow the standard calendar.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 15, 2017, 12:57:02 PM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?

I'm guessing it was a lot cheaper doing the ceremony now than in a couple of months
I think they do it as a year since the last awards, rather than best album of 2017?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on September 15, 2017, 02:22:13 PM
Well-timed, as The Optimist took Album of the Year at the Progressive Music Awards last night.

I'm eagerly awaiting new albums to arrive from Caligula's Horse, The Contortionist, The Great Discord, Lunatic Soul, Threshold and Sons of Apollo.  How did they vote for album of the year already?

I'm guessing it was a lot cheaper doing the ceremony now than in a couple of months
I think they do it as a year since the last awards, rather than best album of 2017?

You're probably right, but I don't really like doing it that way, lol.  I think years should start in January and end in December.  So, say Threshold wins the next album of the year award.  That means two albums released in 2017 (Anathema's the Optimist and Threshold's Legends of the Shire) would win album of the year, but for different "years"?  Blegh! :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 15, 2017, 02:39:24 PM
Well, it already happens with the Oscars, the Grammys and a bunch of other prizes so I don't think there's anythign wrong with it. Plus, we can say it's the Prog year which goes from July through June
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 15, 2017, 04:21:35 PM
Yeah, otherwise ALL awards ceremonies need to happen in January. :lol
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on October 03, 2017, 06:58:52 AM
Having just seen them on Saturday I have to say I'm digging The Optimist more now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on October 03, 2017, 07:36:33 AM
Later this month they will have a show I could go to but not being a fan of their last 2-3 albums I am unsure if I should go or not and the venue doesn't seem to be great too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on October 03, 2017, 08:21:21 AM
Well, if you're not much of a fan of the latest albums then you should probably skip the show since it will most likely have tons of songs from those and WHBWH, that has been how they've constructed their setlists lately.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on October 11, 2017, 01:55:08 PM
Daniel's solo album streaming here (https://clashmusic.com/news/album-stream-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on October 11, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
Daniel's solo album streaming here (https://clashmusic.com/news/album-stream-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome)

Its sounds really good
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dave_Manchester on October 11, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
Really nice album, thanks for the heads up. Had no idea he was even releasing a solo album so this is a great surprise. Sounds very much in line with the last 3 Anathema albums.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on October 12, 2017, 07:48:40 AM
DEEEEEELICIOUS.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on October 12, 2017, 08:29:54 AM
Daniel's solo album streaming here (https://clashmusic.com/news/album-stream-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome)

Just checked out a few tracks and it’s not bad. Good background music, not a big fan of his voice though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on October 12, 2017, 08:31:17 AM
Seems like it's a stronger album than The Optimist in my opinion.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on October 12, 2017, 09:01:44 AM
Seems like it's a stronger album than The Optimist in my opinion.

It's like Anathema lite, so not quite stronger than The Optimist but very good.

Anekke is nice on the tracks she sings on too.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on October 12, 2017, 09:28:37 AM
Seems like it's a stronger album than The Optimist in my opinion.

It's like Anathema lite, so not quite stronger than The Optimist but very good.

Anekke is nice on the tracks she sings on too.

For me, The Optimist was a major disappointment. I enjoy the 1st half of the album but then I feel it just drags on. Endless Ways is my favorite song of the album and might be one of or my favorite song off the Anathema catalog.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 12, 2017, 04:17:47 PM
For anyone interested, here's my take on Danny's solo: https://www.musicalypse.net/2017-daniel-cavanagh-monochrome-english/ It came out of nowhere, but it's actually one of my favorite albums of the year and my favorite release from him since WHBWH.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: BlackInk on October 26, 2017, 02:02:44 PM
I like the solo album, but I’ve noticed a trend both here and on Anathema’s latest. My favorite track on The Optimist is ’San Francisco’, hands down the track I enjoy listening to the most. On the solo album, my favorite tracks are easily ’The Silent Flight...’ and ’Dawn’. Despite really liking Daniel’s voice, my favorite tracks from the last two releases has been the ones where he’s either barely singing, or if he’s not singing at all. I think the lyrics and vocals up to Distant Satellite have been spot on, but after that they have been a bit samey and just a bit too uneventful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 15, 2017, 04:43:04 AM
I saw Anathema live a week ago and wrote a report: https://www.musicalypse.net/anathema-w-alcest-klubi-tampere-08-11-2017-english/ It was good, but the setlist was pretty short compared to the other shows, and Vincent was pissed off for some reason. I also interviewed Danny before the show - it'll probably be posted later this week.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LordCost on November 15, 2017, 09:20:13 AM
When I saw them live last month Danny was the one pissed off. He even showed middle finger to people in the first row during the first songs
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on November 15, 2017, 09:27:56 AM
I saw them a couple months back, Danny didn't seem to be into it as the other times I've seen them but Vincent was extatic. Now I'm worried that things are not going well with the band... :sad:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 15, 2017, 10:14:06 AM
When I saw them, Danny gave some people the finger but explained after the song that it was because people were filming with their phones while holding it over their head (blocking the view of people behind them) and Vinny then added that they don't mind people filming but they wanted people to keep it respectful. Which I can agree with, I've been at shows where people hold a huge iPad over their heads.. I mean come on!

Otherwise they seemed upbeat. Someone asked why John wasn't there and Vinny said it was because he was at home taking care of his daughter. So I don't know, maybe some added tension in the band from having to fill John's shoes as well?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 16, 2017, 05:16:08 AM
I saw them a couple months back, Danny didn't seem to be into it as the other times I've seen them but Vincent was extatic. Now I'm worried that things are not going well with the band... :sad:
Danny told me that the South American tour was rough for him because of the flying schedule, but he looked a little absent-minded in Tampere as well, though I assumed it was just him being tired.

I thought maybe the gig I saw was just an off night for them, but it sounds like there's been negativity going on at other shows as well :-\ Giving people the finger - even if they're being jerks - is a little extreme.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 16, 2017, 08:55:56 AM
Could all be connected to Danny's weight gain as well. I'm not one to judge, being overweight myself, but weight gain can be related to going through personal stuff and maybe it has just been a rough year for him or something. Other than Danny seeming a bit cranky (he did say he woke up just an hour before because he has a hard time sleeping on the road during the nights) the other members seemed to be having fun and they brought the positive energy. And Danny did warm up the longer the show went on and he did thank the crowd a lot after and said basically that a good crowd can really impact the gig and he thought it did.

There was some shouting for A Dying Wish and Sleepless which Danny and Vinny joked off, and Danny said "we wont play any death metal songs tonight" so they didn't seem too upset about it. I can kinda understand if Vinny would be frustrated more, because he had to fill in some shoes and do more with the keyboard, and for maybe half the show he kinda took the backseat at the back with no John available. But John being absent doesn't affect Danny much in terms of his responsibility on stage, yet maybe more on a personal level. I hope John returns though, I feel like him leaving the band would be sad not just because of what he brings musically but also him being so close with the brothers and having been in the band for so long. But hey it's just speculation. Hopefully whatever is up with his family (sickness perhaps?) will improve and he can return to the band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on November 16, 2017, 09:29:40 AM
There was some shouting for A Dying Wish and Sleepless which Danny and Vinny joked off, and Danny said "we wont play any death metal songs tonight" so they didn't seem too upset about it. I can kinda understand if Vinny would be frustrated more, because he had to fill in some shoes and do more with the keyboard, and for maybe half the show he kinda took the backseat at the back with no John available. But John being absent doesn't affect Danny much in terms of his responsibility on stage, yet maybe more on a personal level. I hope John returns though, I feel like him leaving the band would be sad not just because of what he brings musically but also him being so close with the brothers and having been in the band for so long. But hey it's just speculation. Hopefully whatever is up with his family (sickness perhaps?) will improve and he can return to the band.

Wait.. what?  John Douglas left?

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on November 16, 2017, 09:36:03 AM
He's not on this tour but whatever that means for his future is just speculating like I said. The only info Vinny gave was that John was home because his daughter needed him.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on November 16, 2017, 10:06:11 AM
He's not on this tour but whatever that means for his future is just speculating like I said. The only info Vinny gave was that John was home because his daughter needed him.

Oh huh. I know in the past Jamie and John (and maybe David?) have all had VISA issues that prevented them from touring.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on November 20, 2017, 03:28:26 AM
Could all be connected to Danny's weight gain as well. I'm not one to judge, being overweight myself, but weight gain can be related to going through personal stuff and maybe it has just been a rough year for him or something.
Totally, I wouldn't be surprised if he's been going through a rough patch lately and his behavior and weight gain are just the tip of the iceberg.

Btw my intie is online now: https://www.musicalypse.net/anathema-daniel-cavanagh-tampere-2017/ He did talk about his dislike for travelling long distances, but I hope it's not too depressing a read overall :P
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 05, 2017, 07:05:41 AM
https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.html
Quote
“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.

“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TexansDT on December 08, 2017, 12:25:24 PM
And then there's this, with a FB comment at the bottom from Danny.  He also replied to the link to the article in Anathema's Twitter feed.  I get where he's coming from, but it's an interesting look.

https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/ (https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on December 09, 2017, 06:06:07 AM
Based on the above, all is not good in Anathema camp. Something's going to (got to) change soon, whether one of them leaves or the band itself just caves in.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on December 09, 2017, 07:04:30 AM
Maybe they should just take a year off or something to charge their batteries. Compare their activity since WHBWH came out with basically a new album every 2 years followed by intense touring with the 7 year gap between A Natural Disaster and WHBWH. (I know they still toured a bit and were writing, but still)

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on December 09, 2017, 08:44:25 AM
Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on December 09, 2017, 09:03:27 AM
Yeah I'm curious as well.

Can anyone piece together what the issue might be?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on December 09, 2017, 10:41:29 AM
Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.

See the above posts.

It seems like both Cavanagh brothers have been off-form at various times, and you just don't say the following:

https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.html
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“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.

“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.

...without there being more than a shred of truth about it. You just don't.

For their longevity, a break of probably at least two years might do them some good. There's probably a good reason why they had a 7-year gap between albums from 2003-10.

I accept that this is all speculation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Dreammajesty on December 09, 2017, 10:51:23 AM
I've seen them just before the tour  for The Optimist took off and i can say they really had fun ,telling jokes and firing the place up.And it was a great show !! So i don't know if antything happened during the tour,maybe it is the lack of sleep.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on December 09, 2017, 10:52:15 PM
Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.

See the above posts.

It seems like both Cavanagh brothers have been off-form at various times, and you just don't say the following:

https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.html
Quote
“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.

“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.

...without there being more than a shred of truth about it. You just don't.

For their longevity, a break of probably at least two years might do them some good. There's probably a good reason why they had a 7-year gap between albums from 2003-10.

I accept that this is all speculation.
There may be a conflict, but I don't think it is anything serious. You may be reading too much into it.

Quote
Upon the closing of their label Music for Nations after its purchase by Sony BMG, Anathema found itself without a record label, despite having completed an extensive tour of the UK with popular Finnish rock band HIM in April 2006. During their search for a new label, the band have adopted a more 'DIY' approach to music release, embracing the internet and releasing songs via their own website, for which fans may donate a monetary sum of their own choice. Despite the obvious lack of label-based tour support, the band continues to play dates across Europe, guitarist Danny Cavanagh also playing the odd low-key acoustic concert.

According to Wikipedia (which I know is often not a reliable source) they had a hiatus because they couldn't find a label.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on December 10, 2017, 01:53:31 AM
And then there's this, with a FB comment at the bottom from Danny.  He also replied to the link to the article in Anathema's Twitter feed.  I get where he's coming from, but it's an interesting look.

https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/ (https://www.hysteriamag.com/anathema-origin-species/)
Yeah, the article is pretty misleading, because Danny is the main songwriter, but the fact that he had to comment on it (plus that quote in the Metalwani intie) makes me wonder if he's envious of Vincent or feels he's not getting enough recognition.
Maybe they should just take a year off or something to charge their batteries. Compare their activity since WHBWH came out with basically a new album every 2 years followed by intense touring with the 7 year gap between A Natural Disaster and WHBWH. (I know they still toured a bit and were writing, but still)
They had a 3-year gap between the latest 2 albums, which probably is about as much time as they can take off in the current state of the industry, but you have a point there.
Have I missed something? I can't see anything that implies a conflict within the band.

See the above posts.

It seems like both Cavanagh brothers have been off-form at various times, and you just don't say the following:

https://metalwani.com/2017/12/interview-anathemas-dan-cavanagh-on-australian-tour-the-optimist-next-album.html
Quote
“There are certain factions in the band and in the management that are push, push, push. There are people that veto and say ‘we aren’t doing it this way or this way’ and to be honest with you, I am looking forward to having that argument! It will be quite fun!” he laughs.

“It’s quite funny how this band works. Vincent [Cavanagh] gets a lot of interviews and a lot of attention and he likes to think that he calls the shots, but to be honest with you, it’s me!” Cavanagh continues laughing and you can almost feel him winking down the phone at you while his brother listens from another bunk in the tour bus.
I know Danny is being tongue-in-cheek here, but I hope this is not an indication of any real power struggle between him and Vincent.

...without there being more than a shred of truth about it. You just don't.

For their longevity, a break of probably at least two years might do them some good. There's probably a good reason why they had a 7-year gap between albums from 2003-10.

I accept that this is all speculation.
There may be a conflict, but I don't think it is anything serious. You may be reading too much into it.
Those comments may not mean much in isolation, but when you take into account the weird vibes that have been coming off the band lately, you can't help thinking something may be wrong.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on January 11, 2018, 02:44:14 PM
Just saw something on Facebook about Anathema dropping out of Cruise to the Edge due to family reasons.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on January 12, 2018, 05:06:54 AM
Just saw something on Facebook about Anathema dropping out of Cruise to the Edge due to family reasons.

Saw the same thing on Twitter. No more details than that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on January 12, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
I wonder if this is related to why John Douglas had to take leave from the latest part of the tour.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on January 12, 2018, 08:46:43 AM
It's kind of all coming together. Put all these things together and it becomes obvious. Thoughts are with everyone involved, whatever it is they're going through.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on January 12, 2018, 10:06:52 AM
I wonder if this is related to why John Douglas had to take leave from the latest part of the tour.
It doesn't imply which family it is, but I have a feeling it's related to the illness/issues in John's family. Hopefully nothing too serious...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on May 15, 2018, 05:16:56 PM
Man, I'm revisiting The Optimist a year on and I realized I was way too harsh on it. Maybe I wasn't expecting a sequel to A Fine Day to Exit after the three album powerhouses they recorded before, but I do like AFDtE, and if you look at the album as successor to it, it's actually quite compelling.

Yeah sorry for the bump for the people expecting news I had to say it don't hate me
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on May 16, 2018, 06:32:14 AM
That's fine, bumping the thread to show love is always good  :tup.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on May 16, 2018, 07:09:13 AM
Nah, keep it to yourself. We want news!  ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 22, 2018, 12:03:18 PM
Jamie is taking some time off: https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10156527803318629
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on June 22, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
Jamie is taking some time off: https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10156527803318629

Well this isn't the first time Jamie's taken a leave of absense.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 22, 2018, 03:27:36 PM
Jamie is taking some time off: https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10156527803318629

Well this isn't the first time Jamie's taken a leave of absense.
True, but this time they're going without a bassist altogether, using backing tracks instead (I assume). I saw Dark Tranquillity play without a bassist in 2013 and the sound lacked oomph, because pre-recorded bass can never beat the real thing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mindflux on June 22, 2018, 03:30:05 PM
True, but this time they're going without a bassist altogether, using backing tracks instead (I assume). I saw Dark Tranquillity play without a bassist in 2013 and the sound lacked oomph, because pre-recorded bass can never beat the real thing.

Huh well that's a bit weird....
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on June 23, 2018, 06:40:31 AM
That is weird, I'm sure it sounds off.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DTA on June 23, 2018, 07:51:15 AM
Wasn't Danny being cryptic and disgruntled a few months back too? I wonder if this is related or a whole new issue for the band. On an unrelated note, The Optimist has actually grown on me after disliking it initially.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on June 23, 2018, 09:45:15 AM
I’ve seen the band numerous times, starting with a couple of times when they were opening for Porcupine Tree around the time of A Natural Disaster. They were alright back then. When I saw them play a headline show for the first time (on the Where Here Because We’re Here tour), that was one of the best and most emotional, heartfelt concerts I’ve ever witnessed.

But then they started to get bigger (due to the success of the excellent Weather Systems), and every gig I’ve been to since has been filled with mistakes, irritated bandmembers and just a general vibe that the musicians didn’t really feel their own music anymore. I would even say I didn’t ‘buy into’ their whole over-the-top emotional songwriting anymore. I could feel it in the audience too, and when you’re playing these epically orchestrated mournful tracks while making so many mistakes and letting it get to you as a band, that’s when it starts to get a bit painful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on June 23, 2018, 11:02:54 PM
Wasn't Danny being cryptic and disgruntled a few months back too? I wonder if this is related or a whole new issue for the band. On an unrelated note, The Optimist has actually grown on me after disliking it initially.
About half a year ago Danny revealed to Prog magazine that he was addicted to Valium for a few years after Distant Satellites: https://www.loudersound.com/features/anathema-exploring-their-past-their-present-and-their-future He managed to overcome it, but he's on anti-depressants now, so that may have an effect.

Regarding Jamie, he actually worked as their tour manager last year and led me onto the tour bus to do my interview with Danny. He seemed to be in good spirits, but I wouldn't be surprised if having to oversee everything and everyone on the road got a little too much for him. But who knows - band dynamics are bound to be complex when there are not one, but two families involved. :dunno:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on June 25, 2018, 07:00:32 AM
That's some good insight. I didn't know Danny was addicted to Valium but it's good that he's over it now. If the band feels like they need to take a hiatus or something to get things together then so be it. Let them recharge and come back strong, maybe with a new sound.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Curt on August 13, 2018, 09:14:26 AM
How are the band doing now? (those last two posts are a little worrying  :-\) just bought a ticket to their "Ambient / Acoustic" show in Leeds on a whim, after really digging the period between We're Here Because We're Here and Distant Satellites
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 13, 2018, 10:21:13 AM
I'm assuming that things are going good since they are announcing tour dates and stuff.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 14, 2018, 08:21:46 AM
I'm assuming that things are going good since they are announcing tour dates and stuff.
Yeah, seems so. They posted an intie with Vincent regarding the upcoming Polish show, and while he comes across as kind of angry (WRITING ALL THE ANSWERS IN CAPS LOCK DOESN'T HELP), he revealed that they've been writing new stuff: https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema/interview-with-vincent/10155578312821297
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Xanthul on August 14, 2018, 08:47:29 AM
That was certainly a weird interview (or rather Q&A), the answer to the family stuff was kinda aggresive and even juvenile but then the explanation about the changes in the music industry was very detailed and insightful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 14, 2018, 08:55:12 AM
Yeah, that interview is all over the place. I felt like the answer on the family stuff was a jab at Oasis for some reason.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on August 15, 2018, 03:52:12 PM
A reminder of why I stopped reading, listening or watching interviews from them. This + the music being bland to me. Skipped on them earlier this year I think and a friend of mine went, she said they seemed bored, the audience were being pricks on top of it and many people were actually loudly talking to one another which didn't help the band's attitude with them making bitter remarks. Perhaps if they were putting a believable show people wouldn't have been so chatty, idk.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Peter Mc on August 15, 2018, 06:18:21 PM
Have tried these a couple of times as they are always recommended and from Liverpool. Some of what I heard was ok but only generally when the girl is singing and that is nowhere near often enough. The male singer has quite a dull uninteresting voice to my ears at least. If she was made lead singer, I’d be far more interested.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 15, 2018, 07:11:48 PM
Strange interview for sure, but not for the normal reasons I might expect an interview to be strange.

Was my favorite band, for a time, but I'm not sure what's going on. I'd be kind of surprised if they don't at least take a break within the next few years. Just seems like things have been unravelling these past couple years—something I've certainly felt that the last couple times I've seen them live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lethean on August 15, 2018, 08:10:42 PM
I saw them about a year ago and they were great.  They seemed to having fun, there was positive interaction with the audience, etc.  It was a great show.  If things are going downhill lately that would be a shame.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 15, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
To be fair, they were far from bad the last time I saw them. It just didn't feel like the energy was quite right. Danny, in particular, seemed kind of pissed off throughout the show.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on August 16, 2018, 03:36:32 AM
That's weird. I saw them on the Weather Systems' and Distant Satellites' tour and they were amazing on both. They were full of energy and didn't look bored and the audience was very good.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on August 16, 2018, 05:18:12 AM
They were great when I saw them on the Distant Satellites tour too, but I've also been thinking that things don't seem quite right behind the scenes with the band for the last year or so. I wondered if I was just imagining it simply because I didn't really like The Optimist, but little things like this keep adding to it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 16, 2018, 05:24:37 AM
To be fair, they were far from bad the last time I saw them. It just didn't feel like the energy was quite right. Danny, in particular, seemed kind of pissed off throughout the show.

That was the case the last time I saw them too but as someone pointed out before, Danny was going through some bad times (quote below). The rest of the band was super good, especially Vincent. Hopefully that's all in the past now.

Wasn't Danny being cryptic and disgruntled a few months back too? I wonder if this is related or a whole new issue for the band. On an unrelated note, The Optimist has actually grown on me after disliking it initially.
About half a year ago Danny revealed to Prog magazine that he was addicted to Valium for a few years after Distant Satellites: https://www.loudersound.com/features/anathema-exploring-their-past-their-present-and-their-future He managed to overcome it, but he's on anti-depressants now, so that may have an effect.

Regarding Jamie, he actually worked as their tour manager last year and led me onto the tour bus to do my interview with Danny. He seemed to be in good spirits, but I wouldn't be surprised if having to oversee everything and everyone on the road got a little too much for him. But who knows - band dynamics are bound to be complex when there are not one, but two families involved. :dunno:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on August 16, 2018, 07:45:12 AM
They all seemed quite happy when I saw them in Boston on The Optimist tour. Must have been one of their good nights.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 16, 2018, 09:01:59 AM
Yeah, that interview is all over the place. I felt like the answer on the family stuff was a jab at Oasis for some reason.
I thought it might be a subtle dig at Danny for that "Vinnie thinks he's the leader" comment, but you may be right.

It's such a shame that the current situation is so weird, because everything seemed to be so stable in the WHBWH/Weather Systems era, but it must've been naive to assume it'd be smooth sailing for the rest of their career.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 16, 2018, 11:15:13 AM
Yeah, that interview is all over the place. I felt like the answer on the family stuff was a jab at Oasis for some reason.
I thought it might be a subtle dig at Danny for that "Vinnie thinks he's the leader" comment, but you may be right.

It's such a shame that the current situation is so weird, because everything seemed to be so stable in the WHBWH/Weather Systems era, but it must've been naive to assume it'd be smooth sailing for the rest of their career.

Yeah, I thought the same exact thing. Right around the weather systems era, I figured everything was rock solid and it was smooth sailing. Shame.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on August 16, 2018, 11:30:07 AM
When I saw them on Distant Satellites tour, the band had some technical difficulties, and I seem to recall that Danny was pretty angry about that, but it was resolved after a few songs and then it seemed like the band had fun, great gig. On The Optimist tour everyone seemed a bit more subdued, and I'm not sure if it was because I didn't like the album that much or some other reasons, that show felt a little off. So I had like one positive and one not-so-positive experience. Could be just me though.

The show on the DS tour was fantastic though, I really liked it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: seasonsinthesky on August 16, 2018, 06:42:44 PM
New 'best of' coming out, called Internal Landscapes.

1. Anathema
2. Untouchable part 1
3. Untouchable part 2
4. Thin Air
5. Ariel
6. Can't Let Go
7. Dreaming Light
8. Are you There?
9. J'ai Fait Une Promesse
10. Leaving It Behind
11. Springfield
12. Distant Satellites
13. Internal Landscapes

Burning Shed preorder link (https://burningshed.com/anathema_internal-landscapes_cd?filter_name=anathema&filter_sub_category=true)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on August 16, 2018, 07:51:39 PM
Interesting. I wouldn't argue against that bunch of songs, but it seems odd to have a "best of" without a song like One Last Goodbye, or indeed any pre-WHBWH song beside Are You There? (I don't really count J'ai Fait One Promesse)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 17, 2018, 02:42:03 AM
Interesting. I wouldn't argue against that bunch of songs, but it seems odd to have a "best of" without a song like One Last Goodbye, or indeed any pre-WHBWH song beside Are You There? (I don't really count J'ai Fait One Promesse)
They could've included the Hindsight version of OLG, but I suppose they chose Are You There? instead, because that arrangement has become the definitive version of that song, and they probably wanted to focus on the Kscope full-length albums. J'ai fait une promesse is a weird choice from Falling Deeper though - Kingdom would've been more natural IMO, since they actually played it live a few times.

The Music for Nations era seems to get the short straw in the compilation department, given that the first four albums were already represented on the Resonance CDs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on August 17, 2018, 03:45:02 AM
Not a single song from their early albums? How can this be called "best of"? Unless it is the best of from their last 4 albums.

Compilations suck anyway.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on August 17, 2018, 04:42:45 AM
Not a single song from their early albums? How can this be called "best of"? Unless it is the best of from their last 4 albums.

Compilations suck anyway.
Kscope doesn't have rights to the albums before Hindsight.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on January 27, 2019, 08:51:03 PM
So Vince and Danny are making an Acoustic tour throughout South America alongside none other than Duncan Patterson to celebrate 20 years of Alternative 4 and I just came back from one of their shows. first time I've ever seen them live. Amazing! The atmosphere was rather intimate and funny, Danny is quite a character; Vincent's voice is as strong as it has ever been and Duncan did a great job there too, both brothers seemed to really enjoy having him there. They played acoustic versions of their most recent songs for the first hour  (Being the Hindsight fan that I am I found this really lovely) and then called Duncan to play some songs off Alternative 4 and Eternity.  Love Alternative 4 to bits, but I consider the latter a really overlooked album since the band was struggling to find their true sound: There are some amazing songs hidden in there, and to hear their adapted acoustic versions here was incredible. Hope, Angelica, all three Eternities... Jesus Christ, what a stunning group of musicians they are!  They finished with some cover songs, High Hopes and Comfortably Numb from Pink Floyd and Street Spirit from Radiohead. I didn't even notice when the two hours had passed, and I of course was left wanting more. I hope to see them again soon, hopefully with the whole band on board this time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on August 30, 2019, 11:19:07 AM
bump.

new record contract with Mascot Label Group

new album coming in 2020
https://www.loudersound.com/news/anathema-sign-with-mascot-label-group-2020-album-planned?utm_source=Selligent&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=7135&utm_content=Prog+Newsletter+August+30+&utm_term=&m_i=NcWNPpAYeqB9P8nBqzlnoHgPvz1tEBvFXgG1hl8ZAsI9Nqn5I6cbER4hCaW9uj45iI0QUIUX1kMBg7dBVt3WTrQvT6ciTdzNNM&M_BT=311256160776
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on August 30, 2019, 11:35:50 AM
My body is ready
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on August 30, 2019, 11:44:34 AM
My body is ready
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: King Puppies and the Acid Guppies on August 30, 2019, 12:56:02 PM
Hopefully it's better than their last album :corn
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on August 30, 2019, 01:36:43 PM
My body is ready
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on September 01, 2019, 01:33:59 AM
Hopefully it's better than their last album :corn

The Optimist wasn't my favourite of theirs, but it grew on me a lot over time. Having said that, I hope so too.

Mind you, I loved Distant Satellites and it's still my go-to album of theirs, but I'm aware that I'm unusual in this regard.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on September 01, 2019, 02:42:53 PM
I like The Optimist a ton still, but it's definitely a notable step down from the previous few.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 01, 2019, 03:25:38 PM
I was revisiting some Anathema in the last few days and the Universal concert is so good. Flying and Universal are amazingly good. I think the live performances of both makes them two of the band's best songs. Thin Air and A Simple Mistake are top tier too. I don't think they'll ever make an album again that will match We're Here Because We're Here or Judgment for me, but i think Weather Systems, Distant Satellites and The Optimist have all been great albums. I think it's amazing that after a 7 year hiatus/drifting around in nomansland after A Natural Disaster they managed to come back and release 4 albums in a row that are really great and on par (maybe even better) than the previous 4 albums.

I love this band. :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 01, 2019, 03:38:36 PM
I love this band too  :heart

And there's nobody quite like them. The present such a cool and unique sound. Very beautiful songs. Sometimes sad in places, but in a comforting kind of way. Deeply introspective and uplifting as well. Its such a complex and satisfying package they present.

They really mean a lot to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 02, 2019, 01:56:33 AM
I'm not a fan of their last 3 albums and I think they've gotten worse with each release since A Natural Disaster. So.. they've lost their standing as one of my favourite bands, even though I still like their old stuff. I found myself listening to Duncan's The Eternity Suite a lot more than anything by Anathema in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on September 02, 2019, 06:30:48 AM
Probably a metalhead.

The proggers would say they've gotten better this decade, the metalheads would say they've gotten worse. Genre is the dividing line. I've tried them, but they seem to be a bit of a one-trick pony (slow burning atmosphere, then euphoric release), and except some moments, it generally doesn't grab me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: abydos on September 04, 2019, 06:46:41 AM
In the same sentence I mentioned that I'm enjoying Patterson's The Eternity Suite far more than anything they've released. Unless that's metal :>
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on September 08, 2019, 01:12:28 AM
(https://i2.wp.com/www.musicalypse.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/2019.08.09-01-Anathema-@-Brutal-Assault-Jaromer-2.jpg?zoom=1.5&fit=900%2C601&ssl=1)

I had a hard time recognizing Danny at first :eek He looks so... old?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MinistroRaven on October 08, 2019, 10:59:00 AM
ANATHEMA announce 10th Anniversary ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ Tour for March 2020
 
See Vincent Cavanagh annouce the dates here:
 https://youtu.be/uKJAg9K607M

Tickets available from: anathemamusic.com
Fri 6th March – St Luke’s Church, Glasgow, UK
Sat 7th March – Palladium, London, UK
Sun 8th March – Le Trianon, Paris, FRANCE
Mon 9th March – Antipode, Rennes, FRANCE
Tues 10th March – Santana27, Bilbao, SPAIN
Weds 11th March – Cineteatro Capitolio, Lisbon, PORTUGAL
Fri 13th March – Apolo, Barcelona, SPAIN
Sat 14th March – BUT, Madrid, SPAIN
Mon 16th March – X-Tra, Zurich, SWITZERLAND
Weds 18th March – Akvarium Klub, Budapest, HUNGARY
Thurs 19th March – Simm City, Vienna, AUSTRIA
Fri 20th March – Gruenspan, Hamburg, GERMANY
Sat 21st March – Prognosis Festival, Eindhoven, NETHERLANDS
Sun 22nd March – Live Music Hall, Cologne, GERMANY
Mon 23rd March – Longhorn, Stuttgart, GERMANY
Tues 24th March – Astra, Berlin, GERMANY

Anathema will be celebrating the 10th Anniversary of their iconic release ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here,’ by taking the album on the road for a series of exclusive shows throughout Europe in March 2020.
 
Upon its release, it was their first collection of new material in six years and they exploded back into action with a multi-coloured, multi-layered work of unbridled emotion, passion and intensity which saw it awarded Classic Rock’s ‘Prog Album of the Year’ as well as lauded by Kerrang, Metal Hammer and many more.
 
Talking about the tour Danny Cavanagh says; “We never usually do anniversary tours of particular albums, but in the case of ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here,’ which is the album that began our rebirth, we feel this is something we want to do. What I love about this album and that time in our journey is the life affirming qualities in the music. It’s an album of hope, reflection, of summer, of an intense uplifting emotion. We will do all we can to augment the trip with a never before seen light and video show to enhance the experience. Join us in the dreaming light.”
 
Talking further, Vincent Cavanagh says; “Well, putting aside my incredulity that it has been almost 10 years, I’m really into the idea of this tour from a creative perspective. How will we play these songs live now? How will some songs have evolved in the meantime? What can we do with the visual production? It’s a great record to revisit as the themes are still as honest and personal as they’ve always been but there are more shafts of light that cut through the darkness. The plan is to do two sets: the ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ album in full and then a second set comprising the best stuff from the other records and maybe a brand new song or two.. Hope to see you there!”
 
The Award winning band have released 11 studio albums of fearless and uncompromising beauty. Ever since their debut ‘Serenades’ in 1993, they’ve refused to be pigeonholed and have continuously evolved;  all the way up to their most recent studio album, 2017s conceptual masterstroke ‘The Optimist’,  which revealed some of the darkest, most challenging music they ever put their name to, as well as a series of live albums and compilations. ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ has become an integral part of the bands journey so far, and next March gives the band and fans the chance to revisit the album of shimmering majesty and fully immmerse themselves in the live experience.
 
The band recently announced that they have signed to the Mascot Label Group and will be working on a new album to come in 2020.

Tickets available from: anathemamusic.com
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 08, 2019, 11:23:50 AM
Wished they played close to me. Their best album together with Judgement so would love to hear some of the tracks I haven't already heard live. :p
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on October 08, 2019, 03:40:30 PM
Can't wait to see this. ;D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Curious Orange on October 09, 2019, 02:18:16 AM
Anathema are one of those bands that are just OK - I buy their albums as they're quite nice background music while I'm doing other stuff, but there's nothing there that grabs me enough to want to go see them live. They're somehow not as good as they think they are, but they are very good. If that makes sense.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: KevShmev on January 03, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
Thanks to the Album of the Decade thread, I heard this band for the first time this week.  I checked out some of Weather Systems on YT and it sounded good, so I bought it from iTunes, and have listened to it a few times so far. Good stuff.  I don't want to try to get into too many albums at once, so I will live with this album for a bit before going for a second, but any and all recommendations are welcome.   :coolio :hat
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on January 03, 2020, 07:15:39 PM
Weather Systems is the best, but you can't go wrong with We're Here Because We're Here or Judgement either
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on January 03, 2020, 07:44:46 PM
Yeah, I'd go with WHBWH if you like the Weather Systems style, and with Judgement if you want the opposite, something dark, a little heavier, but still quite emotional.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 03, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
Definitely Weather Systems

and then WHBWH and Distant satellites (which has some electronic elements) 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on January 03, 2020, 09:52:37 PM
Distant Satellites seems to get overlooked. While I would rank it below WHBWH and Weather Systems, it's really like splitting hairs.

I also feel The Optimist was not far off (I know others didn't).

"Endless Ways" is gorgeous.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on January 04, 2020, 03:32:17 AM
WHBWH is their best!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 04, 2020, 04:31:46 AM
Distant Satellites seems to get overlooked. While I would rank it below WHBWH and Weather Systems, it's really like splitting hairs.

I also feel The Optimist was not far off (I know others didn't).

"Endless Ways" is gorgeous.

I really love Distant Satellites. It was probably a one off thing to play around with the electronic side of things, but I loved what that brought to the music.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: KevShmev on January 04, 2020, 07:32:40 AM
Thanks for the recommendations, peeps.  Very helpful. :tup :tup
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MinistroRaven on January 16, 2020, 08:07:54 PM
ANATHEMA announce support acts for 10th Anniversary
‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ Tour
 
Rendezvous Point + Masvidal 

Tickets available from: anathemamusic.com
Fri 6th March – St Luke’s Church, Glasgow, UK
Sat 7th March – Palladium, London, UK
Sun 8th March – Le Trianon, Paris, FRANCE
Mon 9th March – Antipode, Rennes, FRANCE
Tues 10th March – Santana27, Bilbao, SPAIN
Weds 11th March – Cineteatro Capitolio, Lisbon, PORTUGAL
Fri 13th March – Apolo, Barcelona, SPAIN
Sat 14th March – BUT, Madrid, SPAIN
Mon 16th March – X-Tra, Zurich, SWITZERLAND
Weds 18th March – Akvarium Klub, Budapest, HUNGARY
Thurs 19th March – Simm City, Vienna, AUSTRIA
Fri 20th March – Gruenspan, Hamburg, GERMANY
Sat 21st March – Prognosis Festival, Eindhoven, NETHERLANDS
Sun 22nd March – Live Music Hall, Cologne, GERMANY
Mon 23rd March – Longhorn, Stuttgart, GERMANY
Tues 24th March – Astra, Berlin, GERMANY

Anathema will be celebrating the 10th Anniversary of their iconic release ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here,’ by taking the album on the road for a series of exclusive shows throughout Europe in March. They have now announced the support acts for the tour with Rendezvous Point as main support and Masvidal opening up the proceedings.
 
The Nordic progressive metallers Rendezvous Point released their sophomore album ‘Universal Chaos’ to rave reviews last year and Masvidal is the solo vehicle for Paul Masvidal (Cynic/ Æon Spoke) who has recently recorded a trilogy of records, Mythical Human Vessel.
 
Talking about the tour Danny Cavanagh says; “We never usually do anniversary tours of particular albums, but in the case of ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here,’ which is the album that began our rebirth, we feel this is something we want to do. What I love about this album and that time in our journey is the life affirming qualities in the music. It’s an album of hope, reflection, of summer, of an intense uplifting emotion. We will do all we can to augment the trip with a never before seen light and video show to enhance the experience. Join us in the dreaming light.”
 
Talking further, Vincent Cavanagh says; “Well, putting aside my incredulity that it has been almost 10 years, I’m really into the idea of this tour from a creative perspective. How will we play these songs live now? How will some songs have evolved in the meantime? What can we do with the visual production? It’s a great record to revisit as the themes are still as honest and personal as they’ve always been but there are more shafts of light that cut through the darkness. The plan is to do two sets: the ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ album in full and then a second set comprising the best stuff from the other records and maybe a brand new song or two. Hope to see you there!”
 
Upon its release, ‘We’re Here Because We’re Here’ was their first collection of new material in six years and they exploded back into action with a multi-coloured, multi-layered work of unbridled emotion, passion and intensity which saw it awarded Classic Rock’s ‘Prog Album of the Year’ as well as lauded by Kerrang, Metal Hammer and many more. The album has become an integral part of the bands journey so far, and the shows in March gives the band and fans the chance to revisit the album of shimmering majesty and fully immmerse themselves in the live experience.
 
The band recently announced that they have signed to the Mascot Label Group and will be working on a new album to come in 2020.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ChuckSteak on January 17, 2020, 02:57:36 AM
I hope the new album is also a kind of "rebirth". They did everything they could already in that style. They have a good support band. Rendezvous Point is very good. I still haven't checked out their latest album though. Baard Kolstad is in the band.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on January 17, 2020, 05:17:18 AM
I hope the new album is also a kind of "rebirth". They did everything they could already in that style.

I kind of agree with this. I think the last album two albums had some elements that could lead to something different and it would be nice for them to use those elements and drive their music in new directions. They have been one of my favorite bands since I first came to know them so I think I'll enjoy the album either way.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on January 17, 2020, 06:18:57 AM
I would have liked to see them explore the electronic side a little more, but the've probably moved passed that at this point.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on January 17, 2020, 06:39:54 AM
That's one of the aspects I mentioned that I would like them to delve into a little more. I hope they haven't dismissed them already.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on January 18, 2020, 01:28:19 AM
I have a feeling the next album might lean toward a little heavier. Just a hunch.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lowe2005 on March 03, 2020, 06:12:13 AM
I would have liked to see them explore the electronic side a little more, but the've probably moved passed that at this point.
Vincent and John are very keen on their electronic stuff, this part of their sound is probably here to stay in some form. They did a tour in 2018 where some songs were acoustic versions and some where billed as being 'ambient' versions - some of them worked better than others but I think the best way to tell would be from a studio recording rather than going in blind in a live setting. They tried Thin Air (the riff sounded really good on synth), Can't Let Go, Closer and Distant Satellites like that at the show I saw and iirc they tried The Lost Song Part 3 like that too elsewhere.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: roa71 on March 03, 2020, 04:25:43 PM
seeing them for the first time on Cruise to the Edge this year.  wonder if they will do the WHBWH on it.  interesting that it's not listed on the tour dates.  but, it would make the most sense to avoid rehearsing anything else..
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on March 08, 2020, 09:59:19 AM
Was at the Palladium for this last night. Bit of a mixed bag, to be honest. WHBWH isn't great as a live set, imo. Dreaming Light, Simple Mistake and Universal were very good. Missed John Douglas in Everything. The stand in drummer did a really good job but didn't have that hard-hitting, insistent quality that drives the band with John. Danny was a bit scrappy, tho he has a lot to do, I guess. Felt a bit under-rehearsed. Vince was in great voice and was cool AF, I thought. Lee looked a little distracted but then she was on and off stage a lot. She didn't seem happy though.

The second set was much better with a mix of WS, AND, DS and TO. A Natural Disaster was a highlight. They seemed to have settled in by this point and there were some really beautiful moments with the whole theatre singing.

In summary, I had a good night but having seen the band three times now I'm not in a rush to go again. Looking forward to the next album which Danny talked about them currently writing twice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Letter M on September 22, 2020, 11:08:52 AM
Anathema have gone on indefinite hiatus.

https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10158682760833629/

-Marc.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 22, 2020, 11:11:28 AM
Pretty sad to hear this.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on September 22, 2020, 11:12:55 AM
Oooooof. That sucks.

And the really sad thing is we'll probably see more mid-sized bands forced to do the same thing if concerts don't come back soon enough.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on September 22, 2020, 11:15:08 AM
Bollocks, shit, fuck.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 22, 2020, 11:22:34 AM
:(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on September 22, 2020, 11:23:39 AM
Damn, that sucks.

Didn't they sign with a new record label recently?

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on September 22, 2020, 11:51:06 AM
My brother just told me about this. 2020 is really the worst year of them all. DAMMIT!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on September 22, 2020, 12:10:23 PM
I'm not surprised but this does really suck.

Even if they never release anything new again, they made a lot of great music
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on September 22, 2020, 12:28:53 PM
Shit news :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Evermind on September 22, 2020, 12:55:00 PM
Not really surprised, and glad I've caught them on The Optimist tour even if the gig itself wasn't great.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: emtee on September 22, 2020, 01:15:07 PM
There are going to be thousands, heck, maybe hundreds of thousands of musicians who will be facing this reality. And, sadly, most of them have no plan B or training of any other kind. Tough times. They made a ton of very moving music. The video where the fans start singing and Vincent starts to cry, makes me eyes well up every time.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LCArenas on September 22, 2020, 01:55:20 PM
Anathema have gone on indefinite hiatus.

https://www.facebook.com/125049763628/posts/10158682760833629/

-Marc.
This is fucking heartbreaking. What a sad day. I hope that they'll eventually come back stronger, someday.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on September 22, 2020, 02:05:30 PM
I'm so glad I managed to see them live on the last tour, it was an amazing gig. As one of my very favorite bands this breaks me  :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on September 22, 2020, 02:44:20 PM
DAMNIT FUCK
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nel on September 22, 2020, 06:46:17 PM
I spent last year and earlier this year getting into them and getting their whole studio discography, and then this happens. It's my experience with Porcupine Tree in 2010 all over again.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: FlyingBIZKIT on September 23, 2020, 06:35:04 AM
Listening to Back to the Start. Wish that “song“ was longer. That climax is wonderful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on September 23, 2020, 10:28:36 AM
Terrible news :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nachtmerrie on September 23, 2020, 11:46:26 AM
I´m not very familiar with Anathema´s discography but I was really looking forward to seeing them this earlier this year until the festival got cancelled.

Fucking lockdowns and travel restrictions are killing an entire industry. There is zero perspective when concerts or festivals will be allowed again. Livestreams may offer an alternative from a business point of view but these bands all started at some point because they love to share their music in a real environment with real people.

I´m afraid more bands will follow and a lot of people in this industry will suffer both financially and mentally with autumn and winter arriving soon in Europe and the US. I was hoping to be able to see some liveshows early next year but the way things are developing I´m really afraid 2021 will be another lost year for musicians and their fans. Let´s hope things change the other way around soon.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 12, 2020, 03:42:21 PM
Was obviously bummed out by the news, but the fact that they deleted their official Twitter, there appears to be a clearance sale going on in their Omerch store, and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story. They also signed a record deal last year, so perhaps not coming out and saying the band is finished is a way to avoid getting in legal trouble.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on October 12, 2020, 03:52:17 PM
Yeah, I think there's some other thing we haven't heard about yet. I have nothing but hunch but over time I've got the feeling that a certain member of the band must be quite a challenging person to be around. Again, pure guess, but a big falling out?

Back in May, Vince had posted videos about how the new album was going, chatting about stuff. It's a big turnaround. The message was so cryptic, I thought.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on October 12, 2020, 03:55:20 PM
...and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ariich on October 13, 2020, 12:27:45 AM
...and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Not sure that has anything to do with anything, and the Clearance sale is likely an attempt to try and raise some revenue sooner rather than later. I agree that deleting their Twitter is pretty odd, but they haven't deleted their Facebook page so they haven't abandoned their social media presence.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ? on October 14, 2020, 02:19:20 AM
...and Duncan Patterson stated (https://feedbackroommusic.blogspot.com/2020/08/duncan-patterson-interview.html) that reuniting with Anathema would "go against all my ethics and morals" due to certain recent events tells me this is not just a hiatus and there's more to this story....

To be fair, Duncan Patterson hasn't been in the band since Alternative 4, so I don't know if him not wanting to come back really signifies much.
My bad, should've specified that it was about live shows - he did the Acoustic Resonance tour with Danny and Vincent in Latin America just last year and even in February this year, he was talking about what a great experience it was: https://www.facebook.com/notes/anathema-colombia/grace-road-duncan-patterson-interview-2020/2656595384388619/
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on October 14, 2020, 05:11:41 AM
Back in May, Vince had posted videos about how the new album was going, chatting about stuff. It's a big turnaround. The message was so cryptic, I thought.
Yeah, someone must have fucked up big time to make them go from there to where we are now.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on October 14, 2020, 09:49:34 AM
Didn't they have a lot of money invested in a tour that didn't happen due to Covid? I thought that possibly hit the band quite hard. Then again I'm sure there could have been another solution than just break up the band if that was the only reason.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on October 14, 2020, 01:21:04 PM
Didn't they have a lot of money invested in a tour that didn't happen due to Covid? I thought that possibly hit the band quite hard. Then again I'm sure there could have been another solution than just break up the band if that was the only reason.

They did lose a lot of money at the beginning of the tour since transportation, merch, and lights/sounds are most likely paid upfront. Plus probably some of the wages of the tour manager and roadies. It was very devastating for them to cancel the tour since they played maybe 5 shows before pulling the plug. I do think there's more to the financial aspect on why the band got disbanded.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: SoundscapeMN on May 07, 2021, 10:18:10 PM
bump.

https://www.facebook.com/anathemamusic/posts/10159218377598629

Quote
Hello all.
There will be an upcoming solo album from Daniel Cavanagh coming soon called “Cellar Door”. The album is written and recording will begin as soon as is convenient.
Many blessings and wishing you all much happiness.

(https://scontent.ffcm1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/183108064_10159218376268629_6438843395489757706_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=7bdgC3XBK68AX-NNpLQ&_nc_ht=scontent.ffcm1-2.fna&tp=6&oh=94711a3cab983f27624c6c650971ebd6&oe=60BBF26E)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 08, 2021, 04:33:46 PM
I wonder if this is the material he'd written for the Anathema record. If he can make it as a solo album you'd think he could get Vince to sing on it too? Bah. I wish they had said more about the split. So frustrating.

I've only tried his last album a couple times but it didn't stick. Just seemed like Anathema without that magic spark to me. I've not got super high hopes for this, tbh, but am curious.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nel on May 08, 2021, 05:30:01 PM
It's hard not to think it's the scrapped music considering the album cover is using the font and placement style The Optimist had. The cover art almost screams "sequel" to me.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2021, 02:14:34 AM
It's a shame with everything going on behind the scenes considering Daniel seems to be at the forefront of the drama that killed the band. Him being the one to put out this album looks a bit ugly all things considered, and I will imagine there will be a lot of backlash to this no matter if it's good or bad.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 09, 2021, 03:32:30 AM
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 09, 2021, 07:19:39 AM
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

It's a shame because I still love the band and knowing we probably won't ever get anymore is a big sadness.  :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 09, 2021, 10:13:27 AM
Oh. That's troubling.

I feel the same. Damn shame.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on May 09, 2021, 10:35:02 AM
Wow, I had no idea.

But something like that makes it make more sense that the band imploded. Sucks none the less
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: pfillion on May 17, 2021, 02:08:08 PM
New Danny Cavanagh song

https://youtu.be/MxbSnR4EXdY
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: IDontNotDoThings on May 17, 2021, 07:02:57 PM
Damn, that was fast.

Personally, this didn't do much for me, but it may make more sense in context. Also, I can't help but note the similarities to Are You There from Anathema's Natural Disaster.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: twosuitsluke on June 07, 2021, 12:33:31 PM
I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on June 07, 2021, 01:25:50 PM
Every time this thread is bumped and there is no news of them getting back together I get more sad.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nick_z on June 07, 2021, 02:32:12 PM
I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!

I'm overall more of a fan of the Eternity-Alternative 4-Judgement period (I find the happy/positive energy vibe of We're here... and Weather Systems a tad overdone at times - although I do really like the albums). That said, I'd have to agree, Untouchable Parts 1&2 are so, so good.   
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: twosuitsluke on June 08, 2021, 06:25:38 AM
Every time this thread is bumped and there is no news of them getting back together I get more sad.

Sorry to keep breaking your heart

But anyway, just listening to Alternative 4 and they do a Bad Religion cover at the end. Can't say I expected that, when do bands like Anathema ever cover punk rock bands?? Respect
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on June 08, 2021, 08:25:48 AM
I know this not new information but holy fuck Untouchable Parts 1&2 are just so perfect!

So much yes. Some of the most perfect recorded music I ever heard.  :)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on September 13, 2021, 08:05:20 AM
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

Have there been any updates on this? I keep seeing those listings for guitars / keyboards (sometimes discounted) which lines up with what you're saying here, but this is the only time I've heard about it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nel on September 13, 2021, 09:57:18 AM
In addition to the listings, I keep seeing updates for a new album under the Weather Systems name. It's funny because the band name is the same font as the Anathema name's been, and the album title is in the same lowercase italics as the other album titles, so... it just looks like a slightly off Anathema record.  :lol

(https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/217683800_10159371862668629_5844057527560155596_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=JHoj5_y27UQAX_5V1EN&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=a87f3794245a90a281864e4ced8e2cc1&oe=61663AA2)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on September 13, 2021, 09:57:38 AM
Have you heard anything concrete about Daniel being at the core of the split? I'd assumed he was as he seems like a very intense guy but I've not read anything to that effect.

TBH, I feel pretty let down as a fan by the lack of explanation.

There's a lot of buzz about Daniel and reported toxic behavior behind the scenes towards fans with some stories going around. Rumors about worse interactions with female fans and a lot of people saying he's in a dire situation with lawyers involved and such.

It's hard to know what's truth and what's not but the fact he's been selling off guitars and keyboards to earn quick money doesn't really look too good.

Have there been any updates on this? I keep seeing those listings for guitars / keyboards (sometimes discounted) which lines up with what you're saying here, but this is the only time I've heard about it.

I've been very curious about it as well because I loved this band and the sudden break up without much of a reason followed by him selling all his gear just felt very suspicious. You try to search about "why did anathema break up" and you find speculation ranging from "Covid hit them hard" to accusations of Daniel touching kids. I hope it's not as bad as the worst accusations suggest but I also think the idea that all the selling of equipment is in order to finance legal fees also makes sense.

It's weird because Daniel seems to be working on that new Weather Systems project and there seems to be, at least from his side a genuine attempt at carrying on the legacy and even reaching out a hand to the other members to get them involved. (Something about the announcement of this project included a line about possibly involving more of the Anathema family moving forward) So the fact he's also selling off his equipment and there's a big radio silence, as well as seemingly a growing distance between him and any of the other members is weird.

I do hope it's not unfixable but I would imagine if there's an ongoing court case or something to that effect we probably won't hear much until it's resolved. I would have imagined if this was just a regular split that someone would have spoken out by now to clarify things. :(
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on September 13, 2021, 01:55:27 PM
I feel you. I still feel hacked off about the lack of detail re the split.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 20, 2022, 03:23:17 PM
So this was just posted on the Anathema facebook:

Quote
We want to let you know that unfortunately life has been very tough on one of our band members, Dan, in the last two years, and He has attempted suicide.

He has has been under a chronic and profound depression for years.

He survived the suicide attempt and is getting better. It’s a miracle he survived the last two years at all. He never left the house for a year, and contrary to theories, he was never institutionalised in any way and has never in his life had contact from the police, or the psychiatric services.

Dan is a reasonably decent human being who seems to have become lost. Hasn’t been himself at all for years.

He did go voluntarily to hospital once for a few days, to avoid the ability to commit suicide, but apparently the NHS facility was even more depressing. The NHS need help and we are pledging 10% of our GoFundMe to the mind charity.

We are now working to bring something good to the world and Dan wants to improve as a human being and be a better man, and never do anything so stupid again. His doctor is also trying his best to prevent suicide happening again.

He is under professional mental health care and is very dedicated to 12 step of addiction recovery, of which he is very active. Dan has been diagnosed with profound depression, daily chronic horrific anxiety, complex post traumatic stress disorder for 25 - 30 years, and he has ADHD. He has not been himself at all for 4 years now, at least.

Many of you share this type of struggle. Maybe music is part of healing.

Hard lessons have been well learned. This was the hardest. Lessons were learned. Maybe that’s why we have hard times.

We wish Dan a good recovery. Obviously we were not sure if posting this was a good idea, but the truth is the truth, and perhaps it’s time you heard it.

Blessing and love and forgiveness ✨

We truly hope all of you , every single one of you without exception, live happy and blessed lives.

Yours in healing

Weather Systems band and management

And while suicide is no laughing matter and I fully sympathize with anyone with mental issues, this post reads really weird to me. Maybe it's all the rumors that have been circulating around about Dan's behavior and him being the reason the band split. But certain parts of this post reads really weird to me like "Dan is a reasonably decent human being" or towards the end "the truth is the truth and it's time you heard it". Maybe I'm reading too much into it but my first thought when reading the post was that it felt almost like something he wrote himself - possibly to rally some people behind him or deflect some of the negativity he has faced due to the rumors.

Either way I hope he's fine because I still love Anathema and it pains me that the band doesn't exist anymore, still the 'drama' that has followed their disbandment does leave a bit of a sour after taste and between this post, him begging for donations for the new Weather Systems project as well as selling off instruments used during the Anathema years something just feels off. Like we're in a M Night Shyamalan movie and I'm waiting for the twist.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 20, 2022, 03:45:54 PM
This is a big reason why I enjoy Weather Systems, the album, a lot. It has some uplifting, positive, messages, and the music behind it all uplifts the soul. It has helped me when I would have these depressing thoughts and emotional outbursts of sadness and contemplation of my entire world falling apart.

People who experience depression can end up dealing with it by exerting certain detrimental behaviors, including doing stupid things, consequences be damned.

I am glad that he is getting the help he needs, and has learned. Albeit he had to learn the hard way. Some people just have to end up in these hard times to fully see and pull themselves out. Sadly, some don't pull themselves out of that hole and end up burying themselves in the avalanche.

This helps explain certain band situations, and it's something I can understand, as musicians are also humans who can and do go through so much...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 20, 2022, 03:55:29 PM
And while suicide is no laughing matter and I fully sympathize with anyone with mental issues, this post reads really weird to me. Maybe it's all the rumors that have been circulating around about Dan's behavior and him being the reason the band split. But certain parts of this post reads really weird to me like "Dan is a reasonably decent human being" or towards the end "the truth is the truth and it's time you heard it". Maybe I'm reading too much into it but my first thought when reading the post was that it felt almost like something he wrote himself - possibly to rally some people behind him or deflect some of the negativity he has faced due to the rumors.

Either way I hope he's fine because I still love Anathema and it pains me that the band doesn't exist anymore, still the 'drama' that has followed their disbandment does leave a bit of a sour after taste and between this post, him begging for donations for the new Weather Systems project as well as selling off instruments used during the Anathema years something just feels off. Like we're in a M Night Shyamalan movie and I'm waiting for the twist.

Yeah, funnily enough I was trying to figure out more about the situation just yesterday, and still wasn't able to get a better understanding of things. I poked around on their Reddit for a bit and pretty much all the posts I could find were along the lines of "go dig deeper yourself" without actually explaining anything and most posts that looked like they had actual information in them were deleted. It definitely still feels like we don't know the whole picture yet, and who knows if we ever will.

Whatever, I just hope Dan gets the help he needs. I'm not expecting a reunion, and I'm not really expecting this "Weather Systems" project to be good, if it ever actually becomes anything. I listened to a couple of the soundcloud demos and they sounded pretty shit, if I'm being honest.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on May 20, 2022, 03:56:02 PM
Ok, I'm a little confused.  Despite being a pretty big fan of the band, I haven't read enough notes from them to know which one goes by "Dan".  Daniel Cavanagh usually went by "Danny" from my recollection.  That would seem to imply it's Daniel Cardoso then, but I don't know for sure.  It was Cavanagh that there were rumors about as far as I know, not Cardoso.  I don't know if someone is more in the loop than me, or I may have to trawl the internet some.  Regardless, this really sucks.  Weather Systems and The Optimist (horribly inopportune title now) were my two favorite albums of theirs. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lethean on May 20, 2022, 09:09:34 PM
Is Daniel Cardoso even involved with Weather Systems the "band?"  I'm guessing it's Danny, but could of course be wrong.  And like Buddyhunter, I've tried to find out what went down with Anathema and haven't been able to find much.  And I've found the recent posts on the Anathema page to be kind of weird - varying from offputting to head scratching, like Zantera described.

If it is Danny (or anyone really), I certainly hope he's doing better. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on May 21, 2022, 12:24:12 AM
I mean, we all know which one's been acting weird over the last few years, so put two and two together...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 21, 2022, 12:32:31 AM
There's also the 'famous' FB message from John Douglas from a while ago that went into the situation a little bit without getting super specific: (This has been circulated around the reddit and I think it was sent to someone close to the band)
(https://preview.redd.it/933abxufw3281.jpg?width=917&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b86b10fd4ab1e5d113a7acdeb4f5861362de74fa)

But then after this, John Douglas still joined Danny on the Weather Systems project so one would assume that no matter what the split is about, the chalice isn't poisoned between all of them. I believe Danny has all the rights to the Anathema name and brand, hence why the Anathema FB page has been used to promote/ask for money for the Weather Systems page, and also why we haven't really heard much from the others. But also the fact nobody else has really spoken out about the details makes you wonder how bad the situation really is. If there's lawyers involved or Danny did something so bad to make the others step away - that also makes you wonder why John Douglas came back.

Regarding the Weather Systems project, even though I love almost everything Anathema and rate them very highly, I've held off donating anything because it just feels a bit sketchy at this point. If we had a more 'standard' fundme campaign with an album cover and a more clear picture of "this is how the album will turn out" I might back it, but right now it feels like one of those things where I question Danny's mental state and I hope this doesn't turn out to be some sort of scam where the money donated just sinks into his pockets and nothing comes out of it.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Sacul on May 21, 2022, 12:44:18 PM
All of this just breaks my heart even more :sadpanda:
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: lonestar on May 21, 2022, 04:32:43 PM
I saw the post as well, and while cryptic, I can only hope for a solid recover. Glad to hear he's attacking it from all angles, and is full in on the 12 step process, it does work wonders.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: T-ski on May 21, 2022, 08:34:28 PM
Anathema is the one band my wife and I both have a deep love for.  We had a chance to see them in Chicago before Covid but my anxiety got the better of me and I couldn’t do it. My wife has not let me forget it. I really, really hope they find a way to get back together and we have another chance to see them live.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on May 22, 2022, 12:28:55 AM
Good to read others are also feeling there’s something a little off on their Facebook page. I thought I was nuts, as almost every comment on a new track are heart emojis. Hope he gets the help he needs though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 22, 2022, 01:27:38 AM
Hard to know what to make of the situation when you have rumours about one member (Danny) combined with complete silence from any other key members (Vincent, Lee).

The connection I've had with their music is huge. Wonderful to have been able to share it with my other half too. We went to one of the final shows at the Palladium in London just before lockdown. But I've barely listened to them since the split. The lack of proper explanation has really, really pissed me off, honestly. Like, not a single interview.

Regardless of all that, I hope Danny gets the help he needs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Elite on May 22, 2022, 02:05:08 AM
I’m glad it wasn’t just me that thought that Facebook post was well weird. The whole tonw and wording of that post seems .. off. It doesn’t really read as empathetic either, some of it makes me wonder whether I’m supposed to know this at all (does ‘Dan’ want the world to read he’s attempted suicide?). Who is posting on the Anathema Facebook page anyway! It’s been weird stuff for a year or two now. Such a shame, they were a great band. I hope they’re all alright (but it doesn’t seem like it.)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2022, 02:16:49 AM
I’m glad it wasn’t just me that thought that Facebook post was well weird. The whole tonw and wording of that post seems .. off. It doesn’t really read as empathetic either, some of it makes me wonder whether I’m supposed to know this at all (does ‘Dan’ want the world to read he’s attempted suicide?). Who is posting on the Anathema Facebook page anyway! It’s been weird stuff for a year or two now. Such a shame, they were a great band. I hope they’re all alright (but it doesn’t seem like it.)

Danny is the one who runs the Anathema social media nowadays, you can kinda tell by the constant asking for donations for the Weather Systems but also how he's mentioning music personal to him with the covers they post. (250£ to request a cover doesn't really seem worth imo) That also makes this recent post feel even weirder because it does read like something he wrote about himself in third person but it's phrased in a way where you're meant to think someone else wrote it about him?

All we know about why they split is rumors ranging from Danny being inappropriate with minors to him being abusive/toxic towards fans and I guess what level of severity you choose to believe is fairly up to yourself, however the main reasons I give credit to something really bad being behind the split is 1. him selling off all Anathema instruments which makes me think he desperately needs money for something and the lawyer angle feels semi-logical, 2. the fact nobody else in the band has said anything makes me think it's bad enough that everyone went with silence because the truth is too disturbing and would cause too much drama.

If this was your normal "We didn't see eye to eye on certain things" I'm 100% sure you would have heard anything from Vinny about leaving the band or not being part of it anymore. Danny is his brother after all and they were in the same band for 30 years.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 22, 2022, 02:24:39 AM
Am I the only one that doesn't feel the need or desire to understand everything going on with the members of the band?

That amazes me, and it's a big reason I feel for musicians.

All I care about is the music that they have given us. It's unfortunate that the band is done. Life goes on, we live on, and we still have the music.

In the end, the band members are still human beings just like you and me. They have feelings, emotions, and are capable of doing good and bad. They also have good and bad emotions. Most musicians are not happy people in the inside, and it takes a lot just to go up on that stage every night and play the music for the people. You're taking a good chunk of your life to tour and that alone can be mentally challenging. Not everyone can handle that stress of touring. And it's not just touring, it's also dealing with the music industry and business that also plays a huge role in a musicians mental health. Some musicians have left touring or making music for the masses, because of the music industry killing that passion for them.

If Dan is that bad mentally. The others could have no idea at all about Dan being that mentally unstable. They could have a hunch, but there's not much you can do if the person does not want that help. That alone can be very frustrating to witness a loved one continue down that path. It is better to stay silent, but all you can do is be there for them when that time comes for support.

All these actions of Dan, such as being the one that caused the band to disband, selling merch, even those accusations if true can be reactions cause by that mental instability.

I truly feel for Dan, and I do wish the most beneficial outcome for his mental health. And I do hope for the best for his Weather Systems output if he is doing that all himself.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 22, 2022, 05:46:59 AM
Yeah, I'm sure a full time career in the music industry is very hard indeed.

You said you only care about the music but then talked about how you care about Dan and his mental health.

Personally, I'm fascinated by artistic creation. I can't imagine not being interested in the artists.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on May 22, 2022, 06:03:30 AM
If I'm a big fan of a band I do start to care more about the individuals as well. If I'm just a casual fan I don't really care so much. Then again with something like a break up, especially one that feels 'unclear', I still kinda seek information because it would help me understand and move on I suppose. I know the artists don't owe us an explanation or anything, but to me at least it helps knowing.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 22, 2022, 09:07:40 AM
Yeah, I'm sure a full time career in the music industry is very hard indeed.

You said you only care about the music but then talked about how you care about Dan and his mental health.

Personally, I'm fascinated by artistic creation. I can't imagine not being interested in the artists.

I am basing my perspective of the mental health on interviews, and documentaries from musicians that have spoken about the music industry and the toll it can have on a musician....Just look at Devin Townsend. His documentary for Puzzle is introspective as well for artistic creation.

I can care about a band member enough to give my blessings. But other than, I do not care as much about the intricate details as to why an artist chose to do what they did.

I have my limits on that and that is what I don't care about. I don't expect anything at all from the musicians, nor do I care about those. It's informative if they do decide to share it with us, but they do not have an obligation to let us know.

But, that's how powerful music is. It can make people feel a part of the music, it makes people feel inclusive to something. When that falls apart, it can become obsessive and fans begin demanding to understand. I think, it's a form of grief and a way to deal emotionally with that loss and that isn't wrong at all, it's just a part of being human. Which is how fans of sports also feel as well. A great example of that obsession is the song Stan by Eminem.

I am not going to be persistent and begin to assume anything that can be misconstrued about the why's. Such as dabbling in the speculation and accusations of a band member.

I do enjoy Anathema a lot, but even in the music, you can hear there was something there, and this was there in the albums, especially The Optimist.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Lethean on May 22, 2022, 10:49:55 AM
If I'm a big fan of a band I do start to care more about the individuals as well. If I'm just a casual fan I don't really care so much. Then again with something like a break up, especially one that feels 'unclear', I still kinda seek information because it would help me understand and move on I suppose. I know the artists don't owe us an explanation or anything, but to me at least it helps knowing.

I agree with this.  Plus, the weirdness of the Facebook posts makes it all the more understandable that there's going to be speculation among the fans.  He's putting this stuff out there for the public, so the public is going to talk about it and wonder about it. 

Also agree that it felt like he wrote that post himself in the 3rd person.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 22, 2022, 02:03:03 PM
I'm not assuming anything about Daniel from rumours or "his" posts. It all feels quite weird, though.

And while we aren't OWED anything as fans, in the way of explanation, it would help us and all parties involved to understand what went on.

Frankly, we're not owed any coherent explanation, sure, but I think it's completely reasonable to want one.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on May 22, 2022, 04:27:24 PM
Am I the only one that doesn't feel the need or desire to understand everything going on with the members of the band?

That amazes me, and it's a big reason I feel for musicians.

All I care about is the music that they have given us. It's unfortunate that the band is done. Life goes on, we live on, and we still have the music.

In the end, the band members are still human beings just like you and me. They have feelings, emotions, and are capable of doing good and bad. They also have good and bad emotions. Most musicians are not happy people in the inside, and it takes a lot just to go up on that stage every night and play the music for the people. You're taking a good chunk of your life to tour and that alone can be mentally challenging. Not everyone can handle that stress of touring. And it's not just touring, it's also dealing with the music industry and business that also plays a huge role in a musicians mental health. Some musicians have left touring or making music for the masses, because of the music industry killing that passion for them.

We're increasingly living in a very complicated era.  There is unprecedented access in both directions, for musicians to interact with people, and for people to dig up all kinds of information on them.  I'm not sure this is always such a good thing.  Things are sometimes changing here as well, but we don't typically hold other fields up to quite this much scrutiny.  The people who make our clothes, our food, our vehicles, our houses, etc., all of them are also individual and potentially highly flawed people.  For the most part we don't dig in excessively deep to know every questionable decision they've made in their lives that we could view as influencing the product we've chosen to purchase from them. 

Any artist that has been in the public eye for some period of time is eventually going to have some kind of controversy.  Some very mild, some extreme, and for various agendas people may blow up the details of these incidents to be more than they really are.  Some of them may be legitimate, and everyone is going to have a different line for what bothers them.  Not everyone is built to be able to handle this microscopic level of analysis, and in ways it's surprising there aren't even more musicians who aren't able to cope with it.  I suspect it may grow worse for some time though. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: KevShmev on May 22, 2022, 06:33:30 PM
I don't know the first thing about any of the members of this band (I love Weather Systems, but really haven't dug into much else yet), but whoever wrote that FB post needs major lessons in sensitivity.   
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Mebert78 on May 23, 2022, 09:20:13 AM
I was very shocked at the post.  To me, it reads as if Danny Cavanagh wrote it in the third person about himself, perhaps in an effort to point the finger at his former bandmates for this suicide attempt and make them feel guilty while also winning the sympathy of fans?  When he said "it's a miracle he survived the past two years," which is a timeline that coincides with the breakup of the band, it made me feel like he was casting blame at his former bandmates.  But that's just me.  The whole post seems like a cry for help to me. 

Does anyone know if Cavanagh has any children?  I heard through a friend years ago who was a big fan of the band that "Ariel" is about a baby he had, although I've never seen anything mentioned about that online.  I hope he figures out his issues for the sake of his kid(s).
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: RoeDent on May 23, 2022, 09:27:57 AM
Man if it is real and all, then you lot should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Completely disgraceful reaction from all of you. We're supposed to be taking mental health seriously in 2022.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on May 23, 2022, 10:40:09 AM
Man if it is real and all, then you lot should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Completely disgraceful reaction from all of you. We're supposed to be taking mental health seriously in 2022.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 23, 2022, 10:40:46 AM
Man if it is real and all, then you lot should be completely ashamed of yourselves. Completely disgraceful reaction from all of you. We're supposed to be taking mental health seriously in 2022.

There's a range of comments here but I don't see anything disgraceful.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 23, 2022, 01:16:33 PM
I don't think concerns about Danny's mental health and curiosity about the circumstances surrounding the band's break-up and subsequent messages are mutually exclusive. Personally, I'm torn up for Danny, and I hope he gets all the help he can get -- I'm personally indebted to him for the impact his art has had on my life. I suspect we'll never know the full truth of what happened.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Deathless on May 23, 2022, 02:04:21 PM
This thread piqued my interest in the band. I listened to most of Weather Systems and so far I am really enjoying it. Should I start at the beginning of the discography and work my way though from there?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on May 23, 2022, 02:14:38 PM
If you start with We're Here Because We're Here (their "comeback" album) and go forwards, it's all mainly in the same vein, and I'd probably recommend that.

I've never got into their first few albums but Alternative 4 onwards has always worked for me wrt their earlier output. Judgement is probably my favourite of those but A Fine Day To Exit and A Natural Disaster are both great too.

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on May 23, 2022, 02:15:48 PM
Weather Systems, WHBWH, and Judgement are their holy trinity, imo. Can't go wrong with any of those.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nick_z on May 23, 2022, 02:55:21 PM
The Eternity - Alternative 4 - Judgement run is my favorite era of the band. If I had to pick ONE favorite, it'd be Alternative 4.

They were initially part of what people called the "Peaceville three", with Paradise Lost and My Dying Bride - which I always found kinda funny, since their "death-doom" phase was such a brief part of their story. It really only includes the debut EP Crestfallen, their first full length Serenades and their subsequent EP Pentecost III - these were all with original vocalist Darren White. Even their following record, A Silent Enigma, while surely somewhat related to that genre, was already something different (some great songs in there, btw - check out Restless Oblivion and  A Dying Wish)

Then the Pink Floyd influences definitely took over, but within a sound that was very much their own. The three albums mentioned above are excellent. Gothic, doomy, gloomy and "dreamy" all at the same time ..although Judgement was already a bit different...more "positive", if you will (The original bass player Duncan Patterson had left after Alternative 4, and I believe a lot of the darker stuff left with him...)

Of their latter, "positive-minded prog" phase, my favorite is Weather Systems, although the quality is pretty consistently high. I just have a slight preference for their mid-career sound.

Very sad to hear about Danny's issues, whatever the cause is. From past interviews (a while ago, really...), I seem to remember he struggled with similar problems before...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 23, 2022, 04:10:03 PM
This thread piqued my interest in the band. I listened to most of Weather Systems and so far I am really enjoying it. Should I start at the beginning of the discography and work my way though from there?

You can't go wrong with any Anathema album, as far as I'm concerned, but if WS is what you're enjoying a lot, I'd go for WHBWH next, followed by Distant Satellites. After that, I'd go chronologically from the beginning.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on May 23, 2022, 05:58:36 PM
This thread piqued my interest in the band. I listened to most of Weather Systems and so far I am really enjoying it. Should I start at the beginning of the discography and work my way though from there?

You can't go wrong with any Anathema album, as far as I'm concerned, but if WS is what you're enjoying a lot, I'd go for WHBWH next, followed by Distant Satellites. After that, I'd go chronologically from the beginning.

Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan.  They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards.  More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound.  They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nick_z on May 23, 2022, 06:14:07 PM

Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan.  They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards.  More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound.  They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.

Yep, agree with this. What's your favorite era/album in their discography?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: senecadawg2 on May 24, 2022, 07:57:59 AM
Oh yeah, no doubt—it would be a huge stylistic jump. But that's exactly why I would recommend it. It's kind of fun to experience that contrast first, and then to explore in a more gradual way how they transitioned over time. That's just how I generally like to explore a new band, though, I often jump around a lot. Ulver was the same, for me :D
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on May 24, 2022, 08:30:32 AM

Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan.  They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards.  More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound.  They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.

Yep, agree with this. What's your favorite era/album in their discography?

I like the 10s material best.  Weather Systems, The Optimist, and We're Here Because We're Here are my top three.  The Vincent/Lee vocal interplay is a good part of it, not too many bands have a dynamic like that.  I enjoy the early material as well, but I don't have as much time invested into it yet.  It's weird, I was aware of them back in the mid-00s when I was really into Katatonia, Amorphis, Porcupine Tree and such, but I heard some of their material and it didn't connect with me at the time.  It wasn't until a couple years after WS came out that I heard it, it really clicked and unlocked the earlier albums as well. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nel on May 24, 2022, 05:29:43 PM
Because I'm weird, the only Anathema albums I've listened to are A Natural Disaster, A Fine Day To Exit and Hindsight, but I've enjoyed all three. "Underworld" from AFDTE is *chef's kiss*.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: nick_z on May 24, 2022, 05:44:29 PM

Distant Satellites to their early material is a pretty big jump, especially if you're not a death doom fan.  They're kind of like Katatonia in that it's really better just to work an album at a time backwards or forwards.  More than a few albums in any direction is going to be a more drastic change in sound.  They're closer to Ulver than they are to AC/DC.

Yep, agree with this. What's your favorite era/album in their discography?

I like the 10s material best.  Weather Systems, The Optimist, and We're Here Because We're Here are my top three.  The Vincent/Lee vocal interplay is a good part of it, not too many bands have a dynamic like that.  I enjoy the early material as well, but I don't have as much time invested into it yet.  It's weird, I was aware of them back in the mid-00s when I was really into Katatonia, Amorphis, Porcupine Tree and such, but I heard some of their material and it didn't connect with me at the time.  It wasn't until a couple years after WS came out that I heard it, it really clicked and unlocked the earlier albums as well.

I sort of became a fan around A Silent Enigma, but I truly started paying attention with Eternity. In a way, that's their most Floyd-ian album. I'm not really into Pink Floyd, actually, but funnily enough I like how their influence finds its way in the sound of certain bands. And Eternity has such a unique, dreamy, and at times almost desperate mood. Very cool album. Then came Alternative 4, and it was an instant favorite. Fragile Dreams, Empty, Lost Control, Inner Silence, Regret...I could mention them all. Very bleak-sounding, but beautiful too. As I said before, I always felt the follow-up Judgement suffered from losing Duncan Patterson as a songwriter, but at the same time it saw amazing growth from the Cavanagh brothers. Vincent really came into his own as a vocalist - and Deep is one of my favorite Anathema songs, period.

I was super-glad when they came back after the "hiatus" - and while I didn't connect with the more recent albums quite the same way as the mid-to-late 90s ones, their quality is undeniable. Weather Systems, especially, is fantastic, and the two "Untouchables" are outstanding songs.   
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PROGdrummer on May 31, 2022, 06:11:16 PM
This might be a bit of controversial comment but…

If Daniel Cavanagh is an actual p*dophile or otherwise some variant of child sex offender, I think I’d have to completely boycott his music, as much as I do like it.

Again, those are just rumors and allegations, but they came up frequently enough in my search for what happened behind the band breakup and idk… the whole thing left an awful taste in my mouth. Does anyone else have a take on this? Or information?

Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on May 31, 2022, 08:18:35 PM
I kind of hate to think about it, because then you have to hold everyone to that standard, and we lose David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, and countless others. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PROGdrummer on May 31, 2022, 09:01:09 PM
I kind of hate to think about it, because then you have to hold everyone to that standard, and we lose David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, and countless others. 

Are you implying that all of those musicians are child molesters?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: The Curious Orange on June 01, 2022, 06:01:25 AM
I would suggest that they weren't asking for ID from all those groupies they shagged. The stories are pretty well documented.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: ReaperKK on June 01, 2022, 07:08:42 AM
Yea especially Jimmy Page.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 01, 2022, 09:27:38 AM
This might be a bit of controversial comment but…

If Daniel Cavanagh is an actual p*dophile or otherwise some variant of child sex offender, I think I’d have to completely boycott his music, as much as I do like it.

Again, those are just rumors and allegations, but they came up frequently enough in my search for what happened behind the band breakup and idk… the whole thing left an awful taste in my mouth. Does anyone else have a take on this? Or information?
Not any other information than what you have (and to keep us on the same page, I'm referring to the story that keeps popping up on Reddit, that he was in the house of someone vaguely relevant to the story, had some kind of mental break with reality and some kind of phone was found). Either there's some sort of credible allegation that's being investigated right now - just judging by how the band has folded, has been completely silent and their store even emptied out - or there's someone who hates him so much they don't mind spreading allegations about that.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 01, 2022, 10:21:14 AM
I kind of hate to think about it, because then you have to hold everyone to that standard, and we lose David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Marvin Gaye, and countless others. 

Are you implying that all of those musicians are child molesters?

It's a tricky issue to discuss, because there's a lot of nuance to it and various levels of offense, depending upon which artist and which encounter we're talking about, whereas historically when it involves unknowns we just dump everyone in the same "sex offender" bin regardless of context.  But if you dig into the history of rock and roll there's all kinds of sexual abuse of power going on with varying levels of age difference and arguable levels of consent to the degree it can exist.  Even back then some of it was an issue, but it was largely swept under the rug or not paid nearly as much attention to as it is in the current social media era.  And the public discussion around these sort of issues is a challenge because so much gets litigated by public mob based on hearsay rather than by courts. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 01, 2022, 10:37:24 AM
The 'separate the art from the artist' topic is interesting I think. Personally I can still enjoy the art in most cases but I also understand the people who feel it's now "tainted". My take on it is that if you really want to be that person to take a stand against someone doing something you disagree with, you could easily end up taking a stand against most things. That's not to say every musician has a skeleton in their closet the size of being a creeper or abuser or something like that, but many of the all time greats have some questionable sides to them.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: MoraWintersoul on June 01, 2022, 01:55:32 PM
And just FYI, you can use Reveddit to get to deleted Reddit threads with comments removed by the moderator, here's links to two threads that to my recollection contain most of what's been flying around about him:

https://www.reveddit.com/v/Anathema/comments/n75izm/danny_has_announced_his_new_solo_album_cellar/

https://www.reveddit.com/v/Anathema/comments/mm8p91/why_did_they_break_up/

Tried to make Unddit work for comments deleted by users too, but it just doesn't work on my end for some reason.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Buddyhunter1 on June 10, 2022, 12:51:23 PM
I listened to their two last albums for the first time in a while today, and while both of them aren't too great imo, I definitely prefer The Optimist over Distant Satellites. That album could have been one of their best with a stronger second half; as-is I love the atmosphere and more minimalist approach for the first half, but the album fails to sustain any real momentum after the first few songs. Distant Satellites on the other hand I find to be a big slog that doesn't get really good until the last two tracks.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 10, 2022, 01:15:33 PM
For The Optimist the first half bowled me over right away.  The second half took a number of listens to really sink in.  It's still the weaker half, but I think it might grow on you.  Distant Satellites is a similar story, though only "Ariel" impressed me right out of the gate.  But I like the album more every time I play it, though the last three tracks are still the low point, so we seem to have opposite feelings about it. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 10, 2022, 02:23:08 PM
I think I prefer The Optimist to Distant Satellites as well though I really love the lost song trilogy and the title track is pretty good as well. The Optimist did feel like a nice mesh of like A Fine Day to Exit and newer Anathema though.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on June 10, 2022, 04:24:11 PM
I'm in the minority. I love Distant Satellites. Tied with Weather Systems as my favourite album of theirs. It's a very neat album. No surprises (bar some electronic beats) but it all works for me, front to back. The title track is one of my favourite things ever.

The Optimist is good. Took a lot of getting into for me. But i don't like it as much as the few preceding records. More of an emphasis on mood rather than songs, I feel.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: krands85 on June 11, 2022, 08:16:20 AM
The Optimist was a huge disappointment for me, I'd probably prefer to listen to any other Anathema album, other than the debut I think. I just couldn't connect with it and found it pretty uninteresting for some reason.

Distant Satellites is great, though I definitely prefer the first 6 tracks to the last few. I don't enjoy it quite as much as the 2 albums that came before it, but 'Anathema' is one of my favourite songs of theirs.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on June 11, 2022, 01:04:44 PM
I love distant satellites and listen to it often. Next to weather systems, its my favorite album of theirs.

 I have listed to The Optimist maybe twice total. It is not for me
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on June 11, 2022, 01:19:40 PM
I love distant satellites and listen to it often. Next to weather systems, its my favorite album of theirs.

 I have listed to The Optimist maybe twice total. It is not for me

I actually couldn't imagine just listening to something twice and giving up. I think a minimum of like 5 listens is almost needed and sometimes maybe coming back after a while (like few months) can help with fresh perspective. If anything for me, the albums that click the fastest (like 1 or 2 listens) are usually the ones who fall off the most because there's not as much to find once you listen to the album 10-15 times.  :lol

But I can imagine it's different for others but I know at least for myself some of my favorite albums of all time were not albums I loved after 2 listens.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on June 11, 2022, 07:43:26 PM
If it's a band I love most of their other work, absolutely, I periodically return to albums I didn't care for as much to see if time and perspective has changed my opinion, and sometimes it has.  But for bands I'm not into something has to catch my ear on the first listen to give it another spin, there's too much other great music out there. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Ben_Jamin on June 11, 2022, 08:13:50 PM
I love distant satellites and listen to it often. Next to weather systems, its my favorite album of theirs.

 I have listed to The Optimist maybe twice total. It is not for me

I actually couldn't imagine just listening to something twice and giving up. I think a minimum of like 5 listens is almost needed and sometimes maybe coming back after a while (like few months) can help with fresh perspective. If anything for me, the albums that click the fastest (like 1 or 2 listens) are usually the ones who fall off the most because there's not as much to find once you listen to the album 10-15 times.  :lol

But I can imagine it's different for others but I know at least for myself some of my favorite albums of all time were not albums I loved after 2 listens.

Sometimes it'll take me years to understand/get into an album, even a band.

Decided to listen to The Optimist, and am getting into it more now. What I am enjoying is the continuation of the theme left off from A Fine Day to Exit. It's a great album to have went out on, it includes everything they have done and is like all those styles of their past albums in one album.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on September 08, 2022, 10:07:53 AM
Just want to pour one out for such an incredible band. Been listening to them alot lately, and I hope one day they can find their way back.


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Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on September 09, 2022, 07:05:59 AM
Just want to pour one out for such an incredible band. Been listening to them alot lately, and I hope one day they can find their way back.


(https://media0.giphy.com/media/3xz2BPbIqcqpFDKXsI/200w.gif?cid=82a1493bs7f2ewmsjjtg05sc5mb36b8w27y52hop80d5ibmx&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)

 :heart
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nel on March 11, 2023, 07:59:39 PM
...I don't think a single post their page has made in the last year has inspired any kind of confidence in me for this album. "THIS IS NOT A SCAM" and having to turn off comments... eeeeeh. People must have been complaining. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq_MdWkXoAETG9I?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on March 11, 2023, 09:26:22 PM
If you have to say it isn't a scam...
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 12, 2023, 12:33:23 AM
If they actually did finish this album I wouldn't be opposed ordering it and checking it out, but I've had bad feelings about this campaign since it started and I wouldn't want to contribute not knowing the money is going to good use. "It's not a scam, source: trust me bro", comments being off, the updates going from "we're close to getting it done" to "we need more money" to "it's soon done we promise". I also remember Daniel selling off most of his musical equipment at the start of the pandemic and that combined with the rumors that this is a scam and the money is being drained into something else definitely has me on the skeptical side.

It's a shame because I love Anathema and I wish we still had them around.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on March 12, 2023, 01:16:16 AM
From memory this is Danny without Vince and Lee, right? Meh.

I'm still surprised and irritated to have heard absolutely nothing more from Vincent on the breakup.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 12, 2023, 05:59:44 AM
From memory this is Danny without Vince and Lee, right? Meh.

I'm still surprised and irritated to have heard absolutely nothing more from Vincent on the breakup.

It's Danny and Daniel Cardoso I think. Vincent is working on his own side project called The_Radicant or something I believe going into more of an electronic direction. Sucks we haven't heard much from the others I agree, but might be one of those situations where they think it's better to just forget and move on.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: LithoJazzoSphere on March 12, 2023, 06:25:17 AM
Lee needs her own project.  She's too good to just be a backing vocalist with the occasional lead on the last few albums. 
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on March 12, 2023, 05:25:55 PM
From memory this is Danny without Vince and Lee, right? Meh.

I'm still surprised and irritated to have heard absolutely nothing more from Vincent on the breakup.

It's Danny and Daniel Cardoso I think. Vincent is working on his own side project called The_Radicant or something I believe going into more of an electronic direction. Sucks we haven't heard much from the others I agree, but might be one of those situations where they think it's better to just forget and move on.

Yeah, guess so.. Must be really shitty for everyone involved.

Lee needs her own project.  She's too good to just be a backing vocalist with the occasional lead on the last few albums. 

Agree so much. Wonderful voice.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Phoenix87x on March 12, 2023, 06:56:51 PM
I would love to see a Lee solo project. Does anyone know if she has sang in any other groups since Anathema went on ice?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Luoto on March 13, 2023, 02:28:08 PM
If you have to say it isn't a scam...

That just seems like feelings of guilt and shame coming through to me. You can also find this when you go to the Facebook post and expand the article:

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PLEASE donate if you can - these donations are all we have had to live on since 2020, and they are paying for music production and a potentially life saving medical treatment program.

The bill is big so please help if you can.
Let’s get to that total if possible!

I'm pretty sure they'd rather not be relying on donations if they could choose.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on March 13, 2023, 02:57:45 PM
Is there any more detail?
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Zantera on March 14, 2023, 01:22:03 AM
It would feel less like a scam if they were more open about the whole process of what's happening and also if Danny hadn't sold off most of his music equipment at the start of the pandemic. That's why I haven't donated myself because there hasn't really been any signs of progress in this, there's whispers of Danny sinking all the money into legal fees and you combine that with him selling all his guitars and it just feels 'off'.

If this was a proper gofundme campaign type situation where you could see different packages and stuff, I would consider chipping in but this current situation feels a bit like "Give us your money and trust me it will go to an album".
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: DoctorAction on March 14, 2023, 03:03:02 AM
I wouldn't donate to him until there's some real clarity around the band and this new project. It smells.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: goo-goo on March 14, 2023, 07:37:40 AM
It would feel less like a scam if they were more open about the whole process of what's happening and also if Danny hadn't sold off most of his music equipment at the start of the pandemic. That's why I haven't donated myself because there hasn't really been any signs of progress in this, there's whispers of Danny sinking all the money into legal fees and you combine that with him selling all his guitars and it just feels 'off'.

If this was a proper gofundme campaign type situation where you could see different packages and stuff, I would consider chipping in but this current situation feels a bit like "Give us your money and trust me it will go to an album".

Kind of feel the same way. If Lee was active in some sort of band, I would definitely consider donating to her.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PMSummer on March 17, 2024, 08:19:39 AM
I was letting Spotify shuffle through my liked songs when suddenly, Anathema starts playing. It's been ages since I listened to them, but hearing tracks from "We're Here Because We're Here" and "Weather Systems" again was like stumbling upon a long-lost treasure. Their music still hits me hard with its mix of melancholy and hopefulness. It's crazy how timeless their sound is. Looks like I'll be diving back into their albums for a while.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: TheHoveringSojourn808 on March 17, 2024, 01:32:35 PM
it's been forever for me, too. i should revisit Anathema (especially their earlier stuff)
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: Nekov on March 17, 2024, 03:38:31 PM
Funnily enough, I listened to weather systems today after a very long time. I've neglected them since all the shit about them went down.
Title: Re: Anathema
Post by: PixelDream on March 17, 2024, 04:11:52 PM
I rarely listen to them anymore but just a few months ago I gave some albums a go. It’s still good stuff most of it. During ‘that time’ of my life when I was really into them it really meant something. Nowadays it all seems a bit too over the top emotional for me. But then again, when it comes to that sound, nobody really did that better.

I used to see them open up for Porcupine Tree quite often. They were a pretty good live band already around the A Fine Day To Exit / A Natural Disaster and I had listened to some of their music but I never became a fan.

Until years later when they released We’re Here Because We’re Here. I had listened to some tracks and I really liked it. Then I participated in a giveaway for a concert in Eindhoven. Won the tickets, and went to the gig with my brother. To this day we talk about this gig. I can still remember us standing at the front right beside the shaking subwoofer as the pounding outro of A Simple Mistake was taking place. It was as if their lives depended on it, such intensity.

Of course we were over the moon by this and wanted to share this ‘gift’ with others. So we took friends and family to a few subsequent concerts but it never reached that level again. Not at all actually. The Paradiso (Amsterdam) gig was laced with musical errors (I believe one song had to be restarted from the top twice). The gig for Distant Satellites in Utrecht was weird as well. It was as if all this emotional music was played but something was totally off in how it was presented. Danny’s stage presence even was kind of annoying. It was like their super emotional act was all about ‘getting that reaction from the crowd’ instead of them really enjoying it themselves.