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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: Zook on October 09, 2011, 12:01:14 PM
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Here I am!
But seriously, Discuss all things Evanescence. I've actually been meaning to make this thread for a while now. Doubt it will be successful, but I'm going to make one lucky forum member's dream come true!
Besides The Open Door which was 98% crap, Evanescence has one hell of an arsenal of songs. Amy Lee Somethingorother has an amazing voice and her new band mates sound pretty good too.
The new self titled album is great, and I'm glad the band was able to pick itself up again. They almost did what their band name suggests. Evanescence isn't the drippings from Cristina Scabbia's tampon as someone here said... :\ ... But just the opposite. Regardless of which band started first, Lacuna Coil is mostly boring, while Evanescence, despite having one stinker of an album, is chock full of great memorable melodies, music, and wonderful singing. Even their demos are awesome. So enough of that pointless comparison.
If you haven't already, check out the new CD. Life finds a way. It comes out 10/11/11 though.
*fantasizes about Cristina Scabbia and Amy Lee [Insert second last name here]*
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I dug their first album, but they get old somewhat quickly. Bring Me to Life was a pretty good song, despite being played way too many times.
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There's so many videos of me and 2 or 3 friends singing Bring Me to Life that it's unreal.
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There's so many videos of me and 2 or 3 friends singing Bring Me to Life that it's unreal.
Do share.
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I make no apologies for loving their first album but haven't cared for anything since then. I'm surprised at the kind words for their latest OP.
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There's so many videos of me and 2 or 3 friends singing Bring Me to Life that it's unreal.
Do share.
They're all on my friend's Facebook profile. I have one but I haven't put it on YouTube yet.
Also, I'm the only one who knows all the words. The only time we're all singing together is at "SAAAAAVE MEEEE" :lol
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Which album are people referring to when they say "first"?
Origin is a pretty decent album, nothing mindblowing and the production was a little weak, but it has some nice ideas and quite a bit of variety.
Fallen is much slicker and has some really excellent songs, but as a whole it gets a bit samey after a while, as all the songs are so similar.
I know it's cool to hate on it, but I like The Open Door as well. Not as consistent as Fallen but again they brought the variety back which I liked.
I haven't heard the new one yet, but I'll check it out.
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What You Want hasn't exactly wowed me.
Anywhere may be the best song they'll ever write.
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I really liked Fallen, I haven't heard The Open Door, and I heard a bit of the new album today and it sounded very promising.
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What You Want hasn't exactly wowed me.
Anywhere may be the best song they'll ever write.
What You Want is the worst song on S/T, and the other songs don't sound like that.
Understanding is my favorite song of theirs, and Anywhere is up there too.
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Have you heard the rest of the album? I thought it doesn't come out till Tuesday?
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Have you heard the rest of the album? I thought it doesn't come out till Tuesday?
:yarr
Life finds a way.
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Love this band, have for years! I don't get the hate on TOD, I think it's a solid album along with Fallen. I probably prefer it to Fallen.
Can't wait to hear the new album, it's been a hell of a long time coming.
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I don't think either are that amazing, but for their time (when they came out, my age at the time) they both had me coming home happy.
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You're absolutely right. I Played the shit out of Fallen for a long time when it came out and once I found the demos, that album drifted away somewhat and I fell in love with those. I think most of their demo material is better than any of their officially released stuff. Fallen still holds up well though, although it's a bit samey in terms of riffs, but that's something I noticed when the album came out.
Edited for content.
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Hell, even Solitude.
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I think the opposite about Lacuna Coil and Evanescence.
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Yeahh !! this is my dream, hahahaha,
I love Evanescence so much, especially Amy Lee, the sexiest vocalist (I think)
I like their songs, especially Bring Me To Life,
It gives me more spirit every I do my work or my task,
great song !!!!
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Lacuna Coil was a band recommended to me saying they were better than Evanescence, so I bought all their albums, and I just wasn't impressed. I listened to Comalies a few times, and tried the others but nothing really interested me. I tried listened to Comalies again several months ago and not even the singles were that great to me.
Cold Heritage is the only song I have currently on my computer. That's a good song.
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The first half of Fallen is fantastic, the second half is okay. The Open Door doesn't do anything for me at all, unfortunately. Still looking forward to the new one, though.
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The first half of Fallen is fantastic, the second half is okay. The Open Door doesn't do anything for me at all, unfortunately. Still looking forward to the new one, though.
I think Fallen is pretty consistent the whole way through. Whisper and My Last Breath are two of the best songs on the CD.
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The Origin version of Whisper is far superior to the Fallen one imo.
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I never really cared for the demos from Fallen. I'm sure it's just 'cause I've the album versions though.
Ironically (or something) I probably wouldn't like the demo songs if they were re-recorded.
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Anyone able to give a second opinion on this album now that it's out?
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Anyone able to give a second opinion on this album now that it's out?
I just want to buy it, but then, I want to buy a lot of CDs.
Hope that helps. :neverusethis:
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A second opinion. :P
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I wanna buy it REALLY BAD...
Believe Me...
Onwards & Upwards
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I'm gonna listen to it tonight. I'm sure my opinion wont change, so go buy it you duck! Buy a copy for me too. I'm broke.
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Fuck no, I'm broke too! :lol
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I really like it. More variety than Fallen, but more consistent quality than The Open Door. Probably the best thing they've done.
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About time they released a new album!
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I really like it. More variety than Fallen, but more consistent quality than The Open Door. Probably the best thing they've done.
That is so good to hear. Maybe I'll pick it up soon.
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Check out this performance of Made Of Stone from Conan O'Brien:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wni9cX7P-xU&feature=related
The drummer, Will Hunt is incredibly fun to watch. Looks like he's having an absolute blast.
I WANT A DRUM KIT!!!!
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Never payed much attention to them, but I liked Origin a lot. Fallen had some good songs but I remember it being completely forgettable aside from Amy's voice; and I haven't really heard anything from their new album (Not even the singles), might check them later.
And in regards to the OP, I doubt anything Evanescence will ever do is gonna top Unleashed Memories and/or Comalies. Shallow Life sucked, and as with Evanescence I haven't checked Lacuna Coil's new material.
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Evanescence isn't the drippings from Cristina Scabbia's tampon as someone here said... :\ ... But just the opposite.
What is the opposite of a dripping wet tampon?
Evanescence is a dry tampon? Hrm.
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... Well when you put it like that.... SHUT UP LACUNA COIL IS OVERRATED!
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The Open Door is the best them.
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Except it's not.
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IMHO.
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Well I'm glad you're being honest.
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Didn't realize how much I've missed listening to this band. The new album feels really strong, I'm listening to it whole for the first time right now, almost done. It'll have a hard time displacing Fallen because of sentimental value with a good friend, though. ...seems like it might have a shot.
They're still one of the oddest concerts I've been to. It was an open stage at Summerfest, down on the Milwaukee lake shore right when they were becoming big. My friend and I were hanging out in a back corner with more of a beer drinking metal/rock crowd. Out in front of us were tons of teenage girls that only knew two or three songs and looked at our group like we were crazy while we sang all the songs. :lol ...walking back after the concert we got to see Dennis DeYoung trying to keep himself irrelevant singing Styx songs.
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IMO, Amy Lee has a strong voice but when it comes to perform live something is just not right. Plus, the group has lost its atmosphere. When I compare "Origin" and the others (The Open Door, Fallen) I have no desire to listen the new ones.
Understanding, Field Of Innocence and Imaginary are just awesome.
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IMO, Amy Lee has a strong voice but when it comes to perform live something is just not right. Plus, the group has lost its atmosphere. When I compare "Origin" and the others (The Open Door, Fallen) I have no desire to listen the new ones.
Understanding, Field Of Innocence and Imaginary are just awesome.
This. I cut a little slack for The Open Door though, 'A' for effort as it were.
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IMO, Amy Lee has a strong voice but when it comes to perform live something is just not right.
She sounded like she didn't warm up when I saw them. It took her half the set to start sounding ready to go. I imagine she must warm up, though, but something wasn't right.
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Every clip I've seen of Evanescence live, Amy sounds strained and always out of breath. She's not terrible live, but the studio suits her voice better.
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I just discoveredthey had made a new album. Loved the original, album, now I really am digging the YouTube official video for "My heart is Broken". She still sounds great imho and looks great too (bonus).
https://youtu.be/f1QGnq9jUU0 (https://youtu.be/f1QGnq9jUU0)
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I really like this band. New album rocks, The Open Door is crap (except for Call Me When You're Sober), and Fallen rocks.
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I dunno TOD has grown on me, just the opposite for the ST.
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I've always quite liked TOD but think it's probably their weakest album. The self titled is really good though, probably the best thing they've done.
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For me:
1. Origin
2. Fallen + TOD
3. ST
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I still need to find a copy of Origin somewhere.
Fallen was good, though the production made it a bit....sterile. But the song writing (though repetitive) was good.
TOD was Evanescence showing that Ben Moody was the song writer. They had great ideas scattered on the album but were poorly strung together. In the end, it's an attempt at an album, that would have been better with real song writers helping out.
ST is good. Production is better, song writing is tight and Amy sounds great. However they found a routine and stuck to it, and at no point through out the entire CD did they even try to explore new ground or do anything out of the radio friendly rock formula.
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I still need to find a copy of Origin somewhere.
Fallen was good, though the production made it a bit....sterile. But the song writing (though repetitive) was good.
TOD was Evanescence showing that Ben Moody was the song writer. They had great ideas scattered on the album but were poorly strung together. In the end, it's an attempt at an album, that would have been better with real song writers helping out.
ST is good. Production is better, song writing is tight and Amy sounds great. However they found a routine and stuck to it, and at no point through out the entire CD did they even try to explore new ground or do anything out of the radio friendly rock formula.
That's exactly the problem I had with it, and the reason why, even though it's not *great*, I'm finding more to love on TOD.
But yeah, Origin will always be their best.
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Adami's pretty much put down my opinion. I like half of the first album, TOD doesn't have any memorable moments to me, and while the s/t feels like a stronger album, nothing on it really feels like something I haven't heard before from them or some other band.
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S/T may not be anything new, but the songs are great. Bands don't have to break new grounds. As long as they are writing memorable songs. See: Iron Maiden.
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I own all of the evanescence albums and eps, minus mystary, and my ranking goes:
1. Origin
2. Fallen
3. Evanescence (EP)
4. Evanescence (Album)
5. Sound Asleep
6. The Open Door
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I own all of the evanescence albums and eps, minus mystary, and my ranking goes:
1. Origin
2. Fallen
3. Evanescence (EP)
4. Evanescence (Album)
5. Sound Asleep
6. The Open Door
Did you pay a lot for Origin and the EPs?
My post-Origin ranking would be:
Evanescence
Fallen
The Open Door
I compiled all my favorite pre-Fallen songs to create a great mix CD which if it was real, would be pretty high on my top 50 albums list.
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I own all of the evanescence albums and eps, minus mystary, and my ranking goes:
1. Origin
2. Fallen
3. Evanescence (EP)
4. Evanescence (Album)
5. Sound Asleep
6. The Open Door
Did you pay a lot for Origin and the EPs?
Origin was £20, Evanescence was £25, sound asleep (I think) was £28.
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I only listened to Fallen, back when it got released. I really enjoyed My Immortal a lot, before they butchered it with the band version.
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I actually like that version. You should check out their self titled though. It's really good. Better than Fallen, I say.
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I might, but I guess I'm whom got into Fallen during its debut, I hold it highly.
I bet now, I will enjoy their recent output.
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I might, but I guess I'm whom got into Fallen during its debut, I hold it highly.
I bet now, I will enjoy their recent output.
I got into them during Fallen's debut as well, and during that time I also discovered their pre-Fallen demos, which I still think are just as good if not better than their major label stuff. One thing that always bugged me about Fallen was how samey the guitar riffs were. The self titled is a lot more diverse. The Open Door might be the biggest follow up diappointment ever.
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Whatever happened with Moody's We Are The Fallen band, anyway? I really liked the album they put out, but that was nearly four years ago now and I don't think I ever heard a thing about the band again after that.
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Not sure, but I just tried listening to the single the other day, and I still don't like it.
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Yeah I heard the album and found it a bit meh.
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Not sure why, but I just never even really got plugged into this band at all. I think I may have seen an odd video or two here and there, but that's it. Are they still putting out music?
And Lacuna Coil are a pretty good band too.
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Not sure, but I just tried listening to the single the other day, and I still don't like it.
Yeah I heard the album and found it a bit meh.
Aw, really? I don't think it's better than Evanescence's debut but I certainly found it better than TOD or the s/t.
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That Made of Stone video was pretty good. Listening to What You Want right now. Not bad. I like the vocals, but I tend to not like the more pop-flavored, "American Idol" sounding vocals as much. That's kinda the reason I never really got into We Are The Fallen. Nothing bad about them, but didn't care for the vocal style too much and lost interest fairly quickly depite some really cool things. That being said, this band does seem to be a cut above. I think what I'll do is just peek in the used bin on my next few trips to the record store and see if I can pick up an album or two on the cheap. If they end up clicking with me, I will start buying the rest.
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That Made of Stone video was pretty good. Listening to What You Want right now. Not bad. I like the vocals, but I tend to not like the more pop-flavored, "American Idol" sounding vocals as much. That's kinda the reason I never really got into We Are The Fallen. Nothing bad about them, but didn't care for the vocal style too much and lost interest fairly quickly depite some really cool things. That being said, this band does seem to be a cut above. I think what I'll do is just peek in the used bin on my next few trips to the record store and see if I can pick up an album or two on the cheap. If they end up clicking with me, I will start buying the rest.
Don't buy The Open Door even if it's a dollar. That album blows. They redeemed themselves with the self titled.
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Sometimes, I end up really liking stuff that goes against the grain, so I won't rule it out if I see it. But I will keep your comments in mind and keep an open mind about the band if I end up not liking it.
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Sometimes, I end up really liking stuff that goes against the grain, so I won't rule it out if I see it. But I will keep your comments in mind and keep an open mind about the band if I end up not liking it.
Trust me, the open door really blows. I listened to it for the first month it was out to try and get into it. I haven't listened to it since.
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Just picked up a copy of "Demos" this is a rare "bootleg" which contains 37 demos from post origin, but pre fallen! Recommended to anybody, who, like me loves the days of evanescence being a trio of BM, AL and DH!
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
I got a copy on eBay the other day, I've had a download of it for a while, though. (I just like owning physical copies of things)
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
I got a copy on eBay the other day, I've had a download of it for a while, though. (I just like owning physical copies of things)
It's just called Demos?
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
I got a copy on eBay the other day, I've had a download of it for a while, though. (I just like owning physical copies of things)
It's just called Demos?
I can't remember what the name of the eBay listing was, but, here is the cover.
https://neformalmusic.com/uploads/posts/2011-05/1306842389_evanescence-demos.jpg
Having given eBay a quick check, it doesn't look like they are there at the moment...
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
I got a copy on eBay the other day, I've had a download of it for a while, though. (I just like owning physical copies of things)
It's just called Demos?
I can't remember what the name of the eBay listing was, but, here is the cover.
https://neformalmusic.com/uploads/posts/2011-05/1306842389_evanescence-demos.jpg
Having given eBay a quick check, it doesn't look like they are there at the moment...
Do you have a link to the listing? I just want to check the track list. There's actually a website that has all the stuff available. https://evanescencereference.info/music/
The only song not there I think is You, but I found that way back when. Of course, when Amy Lee asks not to download a certain song, that's just asking for it to be downloaded.
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I thought David Hodges and Amy Lee made a good vocal duo for the band.
This sums up why I love their old stuff.
Their voices went so well together!
Where did you find this 37 song demo bootleg? I have my personal favorites down to 18. I've had it since.... 2004?
I got a copy on eBay the other day, I've had a download of it for a while, though. (I just like owning physical copies of things)
It's just called Demos?
I can't remember what the name of the eBay listing was, but, here is the cover.
https://neformalmusic.com/uploads/posts/2011-05/1306842389_evanescence-demos.jpg
Having given eBay a quick check, it doesn't look like they are there at the moment...
Do you have a link to the listing? I just want to check the track list. There's actually a website that has all the stuff available. https://evanescencereference.info/music/
The only song not there I think is You, but I found that way back when. Of course, when Amy Lee asks not to download a certain song, that's just asking for it to be downloaded.
The track listing for "misc" is the one i have.
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You didn't pay too much did you?
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You didn't pay too much did you?
£10. Nothing major
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You didn't pay too much did you?
£10. Nothing major
Did the guy at least put some effort in the packaging?
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You didn't pay too much did you?
£10. Nothing major
Did the guy at least put some effort in the packaging?
I haven't got it yet, I'll see on *probably* monday when it *may* arrive
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You didn't pay too much did you?
£10. Nothing major
Did the guy at least put some effort in the packaging?
I haven't got it yet, I'll see on *probably* monday when it *may* arrive
Oh ok, well good luck. It would be cool to have an official looking demo CD, but I can make that myself. I'm out of all the necessary supplies though. Wasted them on making official looking KrotchRaut CDs. :biggrin:
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You didn't pay too much did you?
£10. Nothing major
Did the guy at least put some effort in the packaging?
I haven't got it yet, I'll see on *probably* monday when it *may* arrive
Oh ok, well good luck. It would be cool to have an official looking demo CD, but I can make that myself. I'm out of all the necessary supplies though. Wasted them on making official looking KrotchRaut CDs. :biggrin:
I do this with electronica CDs, I don't like them enough to download them legitimately, so I get them and them print out album art and cd covers.
I SWEAR TO GOD I AM ABIDING THE LAW
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Ooo I'm telling.
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Ooo I'm telling.
are you calling the FBI? (Fucking Bureau of Idiocy)
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Ooo I'm telling.
are you calling the FBI? (Fucking Bureau of Idiocy)
I had quite a scare a few months ago when a page popped up saying the FBI "seized" my computer and had access to everything inside it. It wasn't a normal pop up as I couldn't exit the page, and had to end the process. Thought I was going to have to call Pepsi.
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Ooo I'm telling.
are you calling the FBI? (Fucking Bureau of Idiocy)
I had quite a scare a few months ago when a page popped up saying the FBI "seized" my computer and had access to everything inside it. It wasn't a normal pop up as I couldn't exit the page, and had to end the process. Thought I was going to have to call Pepsi.
yet the "law abiding" citizen here has nothing to worry about... maybe
Some black helicopters flew over my house yesterday.
I think I may be in troubbbbbb
NO
NO
DON'T takE meEeEEEE
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Ooo I'm telling.
are you calling the FBI? (Fucking Bureau of Idiocy)
I had quite a scare a few months ago when a page popped up saying the FBI "seized" my computer and had access to everything inside it. It wasn't a normal pop up as I couldn't exit the page, and had to end the process. Thought I was going to have to call Pepsi.
yet the "law abiding" citizen here has nothing to worry about... maybe
Some black helicopters flew over my house yesterday.
I think I may be in troubbbbbb
NO
NO
DON'T takE meEeEEEE
Oh dear...
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Ooo I'm telling.
are you calling the FBI? (Fucking Bureau of Idiocy)
I had quite a scare a few months ago when a page popped up saying the FBI "seized" my computer and had access to everything inside it. It wasn't a normal pop up as I couldn't exit the page, and had to end the process. Thought I was going to have to call Pepsi.
yet the "law abiding" citizen here has nothing to worry about... maybe
Some black helicopters flew over my house yesterday.
I think I may be in troubbbbbb
NO
NO
DON'T takE meEeEEEE
Oh dear...
THIS IS THE FBI. THIS ACCOUNT HAS BEEN TAKEN ON BEHALF OF THE US GOVERNMENT TO BROADCAST THINGS WHICH ARE WORTHLESS TO EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING.
(https://i62.tinypic.com/2q2k87o.jpg)
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James, please do not name or link to illegal filesharing, as it is against the rules of this site. Consider this a warning on the matter.
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James, please do not name or link to illegal filesharing, as it is against the rules of this site. Consider this a warning on the matter.
i'm sorry
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Just gonna revive this thread, Ev. are back and touring at the moment. Their new guitarist seems to be good, from the videos that have surfaced.
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Saw Amy Lee's "With or Without You" cover on Blabbermouth a day or two ago. Abysmal.
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Saw Amy Lee's "With or Without You" cover on Blabbermouth a day or two ago. Abysmal.
Admittedly I didn't enjoy it.
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Glad to hear that they're back! I'd love for a new album someday, as they've recently become one of my favorite bands of all time.
My rankings:
1. The Open Door
2. Fallen
3. Evanescence (it sounds too metal and not enough orchestral)
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Evanescence is writing a radical new album to be released later this year!
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/evanescence-is-working-on-unique-new-project-its-definitely-new-territory-for-all-of-us/ (https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/evanescence-is-working-on-unique-new-project-its-definitely-new-territory-for-all-of-us/)
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That article is six weeks old. I wonder if she has said anything else since then.
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Indeed she has.
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7792184/evanescence-announce-new-album-synthesis-video (https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/7792184/evanescence-announce-new-album-synthesis-video)
The album is titled "Synthesis" and is an orchestral/electronica album, primarily composed of arrangements of certain previous tracks.
As this is Evanescence, I'm sure I'll love the album in the end. But I can't help being very disappointed that it is not a rock album, and has few new compositions.
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So 5 years and we're only getting 2 new songs? I hope the reimagined songs are pre-Fallen ones. I know she's said she wants to leave that stuff in the past, but they don't have that big of a catalog. DISAPPOINTED!!!
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While I'm pretty into the idea of reimagining older songs as symphonic/electronic pieces, the fact that they're not even having the only 2 members I recognize beyond Amy is pretty sad.
I feel like, if nothing else, this is Amy officially saying to the other band members "none of you matter in the slightest bit".
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While I'm pretty into the idea of reimagining older songs as symphonic/electronic pieces, the fact that they're not even having the only 2 members I recognize beyond Amy is pretty sad.
I feel like, if nothing else, this is Amy officially saying to the other band members "none of you matter in the slightest bit".
Well Evanescence has been the Jon Schaffer Amy Lee Show for several years now.
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While I'm pretty into the idea of reimagining older songs as symphonic/electronic pieces, the fact that they're not even having the only 2 members I recognize beyond Amy is pretty sad.
I feel like, if nothing else, this is Amy officially saying to the other band members "none of you matter in the slightest bit".
Well Evanescence has been the Jon Schaffer Amy Lee Show for several years now.
Totally, but they always at least made a big enough deal out of people like Will Hunt, and their new german girl guitarist.
It's like "Welcome to the band! You won't be on the next record...........NONE OF YOU WILL!"
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While I'm pretty into the idea of reimagining older songs as symphonic/electronic pieces, the fact that they're not even having the only 2 members I recognize beyond Amy is pretty sad.
I feel like, if nothing else, this is Amy officially saying to the other band members "none of you matter in the slightest bit".
Well Evanescence has been the Jon Schaffer Amy Lee Show for several years now.
Totally, but they always at least made a big enough deal out of people like Will Hunt, and their new german girl guitarist.
It's like "Welcome to the band! You won't be on the next record...........NONE OF YOU WILL!"
The first thing I thought of when reading that article was Linkin Park's remix album. Maybe in another year they'll continue the orchestral electronic sound, but have all new material.
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Evanescence honestly was over once Ben Moody left. Yes, Amy Lee was/is the beautiful frontwoman/pianist. And yes, her interests drove a certain side of the band. But Ben Moody was the guy that insisted on the heavy guitar riffs, making the band a hybrid between Amy's interests and heavy rock. And it worked. Very well.
Yeah, once Ben left, Amy kept up the hard rock vibe. Open Door was OK, the self-titled was pretty good, but Amy clearly is more interested in a different direction, but still using the Evanescence name to bring in the money that it does (and yes, it does). By moving to orchestral/electronica, she's going to alienate a lot of people (including myself), but there are tons of people out there that will gravitate toward her. She's not stupid. She knows she'll take a big hit in the heavy rock world, but she's gambling that she can morph Evanescence into a different genre, given her broad appeal.
I'm not interested whatsoever. I thought Amy Lee was extremely talented, and still do, but her interests are nowhere near mine, musically.
I thought Ben Moody had something good with We Are The Fallen, and loved that record. Really a shame the band went dark. Last I heard, Carly Smithson had a kid, and Ben's just off songwriting and producing. That band was pretty awesome, and was absolutely the direction Evanescence had on Fallen. I was really looking forward to more.
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Evanescence honestly was over once Ben Moody left. Yes, Amy Lee was/is the beautiful frontwoman/pianist. And yes, her interests drove a certain side of the band. But Ben Moody was the guy that insisted on the heavy guitar riffs, making the band a hybrid between Amy's interests and heavy rock. And it worked. Very well.
Yeah, once Ben left, Amy kept up the hard rock vibe. Open Door was OK, the self-titled was pretty good, but Amy clearly is more interested in a different direction, but still using the Evanescence name to bring in the money that it does (and yes, it does). By moving to orchestral/electronica, she's going to alienate a lot of people (including myself), but there are tons of people out there that will gravitate toward her. She's not stupid. She knows she'll take a big hit in the heavy rock world, but she's gambling that she can morph Evanescence into a different genre, given her broad appeal.
I'm not interested whatsoever. I thought Amy Lee was extremely talented, and still do, but her interests are nowhere near mine, musically.
I thought Ben Moody had something good with We Are The Fallen, and loved that record. Really a shame the band went dark. Last I heard, Carly Smithson had a kid, and Ben's just off songwriting and producing. That band was pretty awesome, and was absolutely the direction Evanescence had on Fallen. I was really looking forward to more.
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Yep. You pretty much hit the nail on the head. Lee's general disinterest in the band and the way she treats it like this thing she'll only trot out when she needs money shows that it probably should have been canned after The Open Door. Was the self-titled better? Oh, hell yes, but it still wasn't that great (I certainly haven't gone back to it in about five years) and I can't believe after six years of waiting for new material, we got... this.
It's a bit disheartening that in all the arguing in the comments section of their announcement on Facebook, a lot of fans don't seem to remember that Ben even existed.
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It's a bit disheartening that in all the arguing in the comments section of their announcement on Facebook, a lot of fans don't seem to remember that Ben even existed.
I'm sure Amy prefers it that way, of course. Obviously, I don't know her, but whatever fallout the two of them had was deep. Real deep. I mean, I remember when Ben smashed his platinum award for Fallen all over the studio. I mean, you don't do that unless you're not just super pissed, but enraged and hurt.
Ben (I guess) made a decision to stay out of the spotlight to a degree, and just stay behind the scenes. And while that has hurt his profile with Evanescence fans (to your point), I personally think he wants it that way. He seems to be glad to be rid of Amy Lee. And given what I am seeing with Amy Lee (at least from a public standpoint with Evanescence) I can't say I blame him.
It is a real shame, but pretty much the moment Ben left, I remember telling my wife Evanescence would lose its edge. And it did, almost immediately. She's been angling for this genre-switch for a long time. My wife said last night that a ton of the younger girls that look up to her will follow her blindly (this is my wife saying this). And she's right. But she'll clearly lose most of the fringe fans that are into heavy rock and metal, such as myself. I'll just spin Fallen, the pre-Fallen demos, and We Are the Fallen from now on. :lol
and p.s. I agree, the self-titled was not the greatest record, but it was better than TOD.
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I'm still waiting for another We Are the Fallen record.
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I'm still waiting for another We Are the Fallen record.
You and me both. But it seems unlikely. Ben seems to always be busy, and Carly has a young kid. The timing for them is probably not right. But hey, maybe they'll both see your post, and decide to do it. I hope so.
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I remember Amy Lee wanting to do something electronic based a couple years before S/T came out. The stuff before Fallen had electronic elements, and I prefer that material over everything else, but with only 2 new songs, it's hard to get very excited.
And I thought S/T was better than Fallen.
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The only thing I feel like Fallen is really lacking in is the drum department. I get the guy was a hired gun, but the drums are just sooooo boring and lifeless.
Will Hunt brings a ton of personality to the drums, which is one of the reasons I like the S/T so much. Though I do agree that the lack of electronic/goth elements really sucks.
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Josh Freese is a damn good drummer. Unfortunately all he had to work with were Ben Moody's boring repetitive riffs.
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Josh Freese is a damn good drummer. Unfortunately all he had to work with were Ben Moody's boring repetitive riffs.
Probably. I don't even know who it was or who that dude is. But the drumming on that album is SO boring. Don't care who's to blame.
You're to blame!
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YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER!
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I AM THE LAW!!!!!!
...sorry, that got away from me.
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From that article;
This album is about orchestra and electronica. We're taking our music, stripping out the big distorted guitars, stripping out the rock drums and replacing it with full orchestration and a completely synthetic world of beats and sounds.
It's not every day that you hear a musician outright say that they're trying to make their music more synthetic. :lol
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I AM THE LAW!!!!!!
LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!