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General => General Music Discussion => Topic started by: bss4life15 on September 26, 2011, 04:44:17 AM
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https://www.facebook.com/#!/Opeth (https://www.facebook.com/#!/Opeth)
First post on Opeth's facebook page.
:tup
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Was about to post this! Very excited!
Heres the facebook post:
"The long awaited collaboration between Mikael Akerfeldt and Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) is finally being completed. The project goes under the name of 'Storm Corrosion' and will have a self-titled record out in April 2012 through a yet unnamed label. This album could be seen as the final part in the odd trilogy of records completed by "Heritage" and Steven Wilson's brand new solo album "Grace for Drowning". Read more on Steve Wilson's latest venture at gracefordrowning.com"
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
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Yeah, I guess not as they said this is the third part to Heritage and Grace for Downing. I love that they say "will have a self-titled record out", because it implies that it is more than a once-off project and that they might continue it in the future.
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
This. Verily. And bump because thinking about this project gets me randy. Libations for ev-reh-body.
Too long a wait..
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I just hope after this they go onto some different styles.
I'm just a biit sick of the whole 1970s thing - Pain of Salvation, Wilson, Opeth... I mean I like the records but I don't like 3 of my top 5 artists delving into similar styles of music, especially when Opeth are my go-to heavy band.
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I just hope after this they go onto some different styles.
I'm just a biit sick of the whole 1970s thing - Pain of Salvation, Wilson, Opeth... I mean I love the records but I don't like 3 of my top 5 artists delving into similar styles of music, especially when Opeth are my go-to heavy band.
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
Yeah. Death to all things metal. It's notihng but talentless garbage.
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I just hope after this they go onto some different styles.
I'm just a biit sick of the whole 1970s thing - Pain of Salvation, Wilson, Opeth... I mean I like the records but I don't like 3 of my top 5 artists delving into similar styles of music, especially when Opeth are my go-to heavy band.
I wouldn't hold your breathe for Opeth; with the way their setlists have been, it seems this is either a large phase of their career beginning or it will be the final phase. As for Wilson, that man has a universe in his head, I wouldn't worry about him being too static. I agree though, despite my love for both Wilson and Opeth's works recently, it'd be nice to get a change from either side on their next endeavors (PT excluded, as I'm dying to hear some experimentation from their side) except I doubt Wilson will be doing another solo project for a while after these collaborations and the massive solo he just unleashed so... I hope this kicks so much ass that they say it's the pinnacle of 70's inspired prog and then move onto...the 80's. Jay kay. I just got nauseous.
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Should be interesting. I'll hope it'll be experimental.
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New article on sputnik. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/news.php?newsid=19438
The comments are lol.
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
Yeah. Death to all things metal. It's notihng but talentless garbage.
:lol
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
Yeah. Death to all things metal. It's notihng but talentless garbage.
More like "it has been done now, bring on something new".
I don't think hoping for a change in sound means that the person hates metal, but obviously you seem to think so, and honestly I feel a bit sad for you. :\
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious. Calm your titties.
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I don't think so either, but he does his annoying and to be fair, useless remarks several times a day, and I can at least respond. :lol
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I don't think so either, but he does his annoying and to be fair, useless remarks several times a day, and I can at least respond. :lol
I don't ever see him post useless remarks, and I think you're overreacting a tad bit. What you said originally was kind of over zealous.
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Then I assume you don't hang around too much in the FB-chat. :P
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Well this thread is off to a fantastic start.
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Then I assume you don't hang around too much in the FB-chat. :P
Not really, it was bothersome and annoying as it always popped up, and I also got booted from the skype chat for no reason :smiley:
Looking forward to this either way.
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Yeah same.
Despite what many people said, I personally really liked Heritage, and Grace For Drowning is mindblowingly good as well.
If Storm Corrosion is like the third part in the trilogy or a missing link (like it was suggested), that makes me even more interested, and SW and Åkerfeldt together... 2012 might be another awesome year in music. :hat
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I think you forgot MP.
:neverusethis:
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Will every thread with Mikael involved in it have a debate about metal now?
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Will every thread with Mikael involved in it have a debate about metal now?
Probably for a while... People will get their panties untangled eventually. Or just take them off and go streaking, proclaiming their hatred for anything vocally quiet as they say so in a terrible imitation of Mikael's growl. Either that, or this collaboration will blow their puny little minds into a million pieces and then they'll realize that whatever these men do, they'll do it well. Perhaps both. Then they will bow at the alter that is Steven Akerfeldt. Only sound will tell.
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Will every thread with Mikael involved in it have a debate about metal now?
Probably for a while... People will get their panties untangled eventually. Or just take them off and go streaking, proclaiming their hatred for anything vocally quiet as they say so in a terrible imitation of Mikael's growl. Either that, or this collaboration will blow their puny little minds into a million pieces and then they'll realize that whatever these men do, they'll do it well. Perhaps both. Then they will bow at the alter that is Steven Akerfeldt. Only sound will tell.
Here's the thing. I like Heritage, yes I, a HUGE metal fan said that, its really good, but the thing is, I still like Opeth's metal side a tad more, and it'd feel like a waste for him to just throw that part of them away, as that side is monumental and beautiful as well. And in all actuality his growls aren't to hard to do, as he does them correctly instead of tearing at his vocal chords as others might, and if you learn how which takes practice but isn't insanely difficult you can growl as he can :P I've been learning for a long while.
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Best album ever.
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Best album ever.
Can't see how it will fail to be :tup
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Best album ever.
:lol I was waiting for you to post after all the love you've been giving Heritage. I can already hear angels voices coming from this collaboration though. Truly one of the only collaborations I've ever been excited for (nvm I lie; OSI).
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I take it there's going to be no metal in this album?
From what they have stated, no.
And good riddance to them!
Yeah. Death to all things metal. It's notihng but talentless garbage.
More like "it has been done now, bring on something new".
I don't think hoping for a change in sound means that the person hates metal, but obviously you seem to think so, and honestly I feel a bit sad for you. :\
Good riddance implies "Thank god they stopped doing that thing that was terrible". And I was mostly being sarcastic (with a pinch of douchewaffle).
Calm your titties.
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Ah, bad wording from my side then, I meant more "Good for them for wanting to try something new".
At least I can blame it all on English not being my first language. ^.^
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If that's all you meant, then I take back my good healthy portion of "douchewaffle" and replace it "I agree".
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https://starsdie.com/wp/mikael-akerfeldt-talks-about-storm-corrosion/
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FUCKING
MASSIVE
ERECTION
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No drums.
:mehlin
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Very nice news.
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"It's quite cinematic sounding, like a soundtrack to some shit film." :lol
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"It's quite cinematic sounding, like a soundtrack to some shit film." :lol
I laughed when I heard that too :lol
This should be interesting, definitely will be checking this out when it hits the shelves.
Also, the last question, what the heck?
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From their Facebook:
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I hope the pics show up, I'm linking straight from FB.
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Posted on Facebook 30 minutes ago:
"Storm Corrosion will be issued on CD, limited deluxe double vinyl LP in gatefold sleeve with poster (which will be issued by Roadrunner, but curated by vinyl experts ToneFloat), and blu-ray. The blu-ray will include stereo and 5.1 mixes, demos and instrumental mixes, all at 96K high resolution. Confirmation of exact release date and pre-ordering info soon."
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Nice, I'll likely get the blu-ray.
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:caffeine: Awesome!! Oh man this year is aiming to be quite the musical powerhouse. :metal
Nice, I'll likely get the blu-ray.
Definitely. This will be my first blu-ray in regards to music; I cannot wait to hear it given the mastermind of production that is SW is behind quality control. Blu-Ray is exciting enough but Wilson has mastered his trade.
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I have Grace For Drowning on Blu-Ray and that was very well done.
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Here's a very good fake promo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdoYJiH58o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDdoYJiH58o)
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Posted on Facebook 30 minutes ago:
"Storm Corrosion will be issued on CD, limited deluxe double vinyl LP in gatefold sleeve with poster (which will be issued by Roadrunner, but curated by vinyl experts ToneFloat), and blu-ray. The blu-ray will include stereo and 5.1 mixes, demos and instrumental mixes, all at 96K high resolution. Confirmation of exact release date and pre-ordering info soon."
YES!!! :hefdaddy :metal
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I have Grace For Drowning on Blu-Ray and that was very well done.
:o I am jelly (blackberry preserves)... Grrr, I really hope they have some kind of music on sale at the SW concert cause I need something from the man that isn't just a CD album. I've got a few PT DVDs but even then...nothing special. It'd be perfect timing for me too since I just upgraded my sound system to something that actually packs a punch.
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I'll probably get all 3. Definitely the bluray, I guess I'll have to wait and see how much it is gonna cost and how much money I have in my bank account (foreshadowing: very little).
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Nice, I'll likely get the blu-ray.
Sweet.
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The world will come to an end this year. I don't care, it will be to the sounds of this awesome endeavor.
rumborak
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(https://i.imgur.com/wr8c6.jpg) (https://imgur.com/wr8c6)
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:lol
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:rollin
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I find it hard to identify the "main" format of the album. For example, it was obvious that for GFD, SW's preferred presentation was through the 5.1 Blu-ray and the photography book. For this, it's not so clear, because I know that both SW and MA are really into the vinyl presentation, but the Blu-ray is probably going to be better quality.
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How is Blu-Ray the better quality than the CD though? It's gonna be the same digital signal unless I am mistaken.
rumborak
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How is Blu-Ray the better quality than the CD though? It's gonna be the same digital signal unless I am mistaken.
rumborak
Is it? I'm not sure. I thought it was higher quality for some reason?
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Yeah I assume it'll be the same quality.
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How is Blu-Ray the better quality than the CD though? It's gonna be the same digital signal unless I am mistaken.
rumborak
Is it? I'm not sure. I thought it was higher quality for some reason?
I just looked it up, and there's no requirement on Blu-Ray audio DVDs to be in any way different (e.g. sampling rate) than regular audio CDs. They can go as high as 192kHz, but frankly I would be very surprised if any of them did. Why bother if you can get away with the same audio signal as on the audio CD?
rumborak
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For me, I want the extras mainly; but the 5.1 mixes will certainly resonate better with my new sound system. Other than that, yeah I guess there's no difference; I don't know, I'm no audiophile. I just want some sexiness.
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Doesn't 5.1 make everything more clear-sounding because the instruments don't mesh together out of only two speakers? And the music videos for GFD are crystal clear, so there's that too.
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How is Blu-Ray the better quality than the CD though? It's gonna be the same digital signal unless I am mistaken.
rumborak
Is it? I'm not sure. I thought it was higher quality for some reason?
I just looked it up, and there's no requirement on Blu-Ray audio DVDs to be in any way different (e.g. sampling rate) than regular audio CDs. They can go as high as 192kHz, but frankly I would be very surprised if any of them did. Why bother if you can get away with the same audio signal as on the audio CD?
rumborak
5.1 like everybody else said. It's worth it.
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How is Blu-Ray the better quality than the CD though? It's gonna be the same digital signal unless I am mistaken.
rumborak
Is it? I'm not sure. I thought it was higher quality for some reason?
I just looked it up, and there's no requirement on Blu-Ray audio DVDs to be in any way different (e.g. sampling rate) than regular audio CDs. They can go as high as 192kHz, but frankly I would be very surprised if any of them did. Why bother if you can get away with the same audio signal as on the audio CD?
rumborak
I don't notice much of a difference in terms of quality between CD and bluray (also have never done a side by side comparison), but Steven's 5.1 mixes are always spectacular so I would go for the bluray if you have the option. The only downside is it is not portable, so if this version doesn't come with the CD you won't be able to play it in the car, on a cd player, etc... but everything is MP3 now anyways so I guess that wouldn't bother most people.
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CDs are only 48khz, didn't SW say the blu-ray was 96khz?
And CDs give the inferior quality in only two channels, whereas the Blu-Ray will be higher res in all 5 channels.
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What I notice about SW's 5.1 mixes is that most of the sound comes from the front three speakers, and the back two speakers are used for sound effects, backing vocals, and other quirky things. Is this pretty standard for DTS albums?
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CDs are only 48khz, didn't SW say the blu-ray was 96khz?
GFD was, I assume this will be too.
What I notice about SW's 5.1 mixes is that most of the sound comes from the front three speakers, and the back two speakers are used for sound effects, backing vocals, and other quirky things. Is this pretty standard for DTS albums?
Pretty much.
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From their Facebook:
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I hope the pics show up, I'm linking straight from FB.
OH MY GOD THEY ARE SO UNBEARABLY ADORABLE :heart :heart
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Mike looks like a giant in that last pic where he's drinking from that demitasse cup.
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ROADRUNNER RECORDS are delighted to announce the signing of STORM CORROSION.
STORM CORROSION is the long-discussed and highly anticipated collaboration between two of the current music scene’s most innovative and multi-talented artists; PORCUPINE TREE’s Steven Wilson and Mikael Åkerfeldt of OPETH. The pair have been friends since the late ‘90s, when Wilson co-produced Opeth’s revered ‘Blackwater Park’ album. Over the years, they’d often spoken of working on a project together, but it wasn’t until recently that they managed to make something happen, when Mikael flew over to visit Steve in the UK and they ended up in Wilson’s home studio throwing ideas around. That visit was the nascence of a whole self-titled album, written and produced by the pair and mixed by Wilson.
The sound of STORM CORROSION can best be described as enchanting, orchestral, ambient, epic (half the album’s tracks clock in around the 10 minute mark) and nothing short of surprising to the new ear. However, the musicians’ respective fanbases will be primed to appreciate the new output, with Wilson’s recent solo album, ‘Grace For Drowning’ and Opeth’s ‘Heritage’ having brought them to a logical place to understand STORM CORROSION. This eponymous collection is almost viewed as one side of a musical triangle.
Says Wilson; “If you'd asked me three months ago about the music, I would have said, 'Expect the last thing you would expect.' But actually, now that 'Heritage' and 'Grace Of Drowning' have come out, I don't think it's going to be that much of a shock to people, because it's almost like a third part of the trilogy, in a way. If anything, it's even more orchestral, even more stripped down, even more dark, twisted and melancholic… but it certainly feels like it comes from the same place as 'Heritage' and 'Grace For Drowning', which indeed it does because it was written during the same period.”
“Some of the music on this record I think is the most beautiful music I have participated on ever,” adds Åkerfeldt. “There's some magical sections on there. Musically I think we've created something earthy, a bit frightening, exhausting, profound and rather intense. All at the same time. I can safely say I don't know any other band or artist that sounds anything like STORM CORROSION. I guess that was also one of our goals, so to speak.”
Roadrunner’s Snr VP of A&R, Monte Conner welcomes STORM CORROSION to the Roadrunner family, commenting: “I am honoured to have the Roadrunner logo on the STORM CORROSION album. Steven Wilson and Mikael Åkerfeldt have demonstrated time and time again that they are two of the truest and most important artists working today, and it is not often that I get to work with musicians of this calibre. This album is a beautiful piece of work that will appeal to fans of Steven and Mikael’s past records, while at the same time exploring new avenues for both artists.
‘STORM CORROSION’ will hit record stores on 23rd April. Full release and format details will follow.
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I am okay with this.
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I am okay with this.
Me too, if by "being okay" you mean "so excited I just filled my pants with feces and semen"
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I am okay with this.
Me too, if by "being okay" you mean "so excited I just filled my pants with feces and semen"
^Yyyyyyup!!! So smelly. So good. So excite.
This is going to be one hell of a musical birthday for me. Awesome BLOSSOM! :metal
Er wait...for this album it should be...
:millahhhh :laugh:
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I am pumped up. I love Steven Wilson, and Heritage kicks ass, so this should be excellent.
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I have only listened to Heritage by Opeth so I'm not sure what to expect from Akerfeldt but as long as there are no Death Metal vocals I will probably like this.
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I have only listened to Heritage by Opeth so I'm not sure what to expect from Akerfeldt but as long as there are no Death Metal vocals I will probably like this.
Yeah, definitely none of that. Zero.
Which I love for this album...but...am patiently salivating for regarding the next Opeth album. You're safe! FOR NOW.....muuuuuuMUUUUUUUUUAHAHAHAHA.
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Cannot wait for this. The descriptions of the music sound AMAZING.
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Interesting...
Looking forward to this!
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Absolutely cannot wait for this.
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Oh man, the album comes out the same day Opeth is playing in Denver. SCORE :caffeine:
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Only a month away, no promo, no tracklist, no leak...perhaps this is a good thing that they are keeping such a low profile.
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Only a month away, no promo, no tracklist, no leak...perhaps this is a good thing that they are keeping such a low profile.
Album comes out on April 23rd. Over two months from now.
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I have only listened to Heritage by Opeth so I'm not sure what to expect from Akerfeldt but as long as there are no Death Metal vocals I will probably like this.
Yeah, definitely none of that. Zero.
Which I love for this album...but...am patiently salivating for regarding the next Opeth album. You're safe! FOR NOW.....muuuuuuMUUUUUUUUUAHAHAHAHA.
This should be nice then. I'll be waiting
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I am okay with this.
Me too, if by "being okay" you mean "so excited I just filled my pants with feces and semen"
Got some Santorum in your pants?
Good, because so do I thinking of this project.
rumborak
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"The first ever published Storm Corrosion interview appears in the new issue of Classic Rock presents Prog magazine, in stores this week. The issue also includes the results of the 2011 readers poll, in which Grace For Drowning has been voted number 1 album of the year."
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I'll post the interview here when the magazine arrives....unless anyone else wants to do it?
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No drums.
:mehlin
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No drums.
:mehlin
There are drums. They're being done by Gavin Harrison.
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I like that you can buy Classic Rock Presents Prog from the App Store. So much cheaper. I just miss that I don't get the disc
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No drums.
:mehlin
There are drums. They're being done by Gavin Harrison.
I read that there's no drums - just percussive sounds provided by instruments.
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No drums.
:mehlin
There are drums. They're being done by Gavin Harrison.
I read that there's no drums - just percussive sounds provided by instruments.
What I've gotten from most of the interviews is that there are drums but most of the album is without them. I'd bet that even when there are drums it's going to be pretty minimal though.
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And what's wrong with that??
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Nothing.
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There is nothing intrinsically wrong with having no drums but the way I read it was - there was only percussion on it by tapping guitars and doing pick noises and such...
Not sure where I read it tbh.... :-\
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It's always funny when people start reacting to something they haven't even heard yet. No matter how much Steven Wilson describes the album beforehand, I'll still be clueless to how it sounds until I have actually heard it, and I can't really have an opinion before that.
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Well Gavin's on the album, so...
From what I gather the album's gonna have the dark orchestral moments from GFD, with the spacey, "room to breath" vibe of Heritage.
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Another Official Wilson interview :
https://www.innerviews.org/inner/wilson.html
LOT of great stuff in there.
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Wow, LOTS of great stuff indeed, thanks.
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Cool to hear more about Storm Corrosion, less excited to hear that SW's stepping out of Blackfield and giving Aviv full reign eventually, but if he can't do it he can't do it.
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Like SW says himself, I think people give Aviv way too little credit for what he does with Blackfield, and thinks that SW is 90% of the whole thing. Even if SW wouldn't help with the album at all, I'm still sure it would sound like Blackfield.
Also, I posted that interview in the SW-thread earlier today. ;)
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I mean SW flat out had said he had very little to do with the last album, I just think it's a case of his voice being on too many of the tracks for people to realize what little role he actually had.
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So - Blackfield , Grace For Drowning , Storm Corrosion = No PT album for a while ?
This is why side projects are bad.
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Errrrr guys Wilson didn't step back really at all - the vast majority of I and II were written by Geffen too. Sure, lyrics were more often penned by Wilson, but that's not what people complained about (mostly) on DNA, (track 2 aside).
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So - Blackfield , Grace For Drowning , Storm Corrosion = No PT album for a while ?
This is why side projects are bad.
TROLL
great interview, though i'm one of those people who doesn't really care about what SW thinks of Spotify and religion, etc. – i'd rather he discuss music a lot more, but he's obviously at the mercy of the interviewer.
very curious about the new long piece they will be debuting live, though.
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So - Blackfield , Grace For Drowning , Storm Corrosion = No PT album for a while ?
This is why side projects are bad.
TROLL
great interview, though i'm one of those people who doesn't really care about what SW thinks of Spotify and religion, etc. – i'd rather he discuss music a lot more, but he's obviously at the mercy of the interviewer.
I feel the same way, whenever SW gets on his rants about online music and such I just skim through it.
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Which is unfortunate as he's usually spot on about spotify and such.
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Which is unfortunate as he's usually spot on about religion and such.
ftfy
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Yeah, I think his points on Music, the "playlist-mentality", Spotify and everything else in the field is pretty spot on.
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I agree with what he says, but there's only so many times I can read/hear it.
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I agree with what he says, but there's only so many times I can read/hear it.
I disagree with what he says but pretty much this.
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I agree with his thoughts on downloading and buying CD's/vinyls, but I disagree with his thoughts on Ipods, I would rather listen to music out and about on an ipod than not at all.
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I don't know if his grudge against iPods and Mp3-players are so much against the fact that you have music available wherever you go, I thought it was more the "playlist-mentality", that people listen to one song, then skip to another song from another album.
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But what's wrong with that? If people choose to enjoy music that way then more power to them. I listen to my music the way I choose to.
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It's just opinions in the end.
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What a moany old git.
I bet he thought CDs were the death of music too.
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What a moany old git.
I bet he thought CDs were the death of music too.
That's not what he's saying at all about streaming etc. but hey, whatever! ;)
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I seriously like Steven Wilson less and less with every interview I read with him.
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I'll admit I skimmed that interview, but from the parts I saw it seemed to just reinforce what he had previously said. I honestly don't believe we as a culture value music the same way we did 25 years ago and he senses that. Back in the days of vinyl people would obsess over music, picking it apart, analyzing the artwork and really pay attention to the music and care about how well it was presented. And for better or worse today a lot of that is gone. There are still people who care just as much, but today music is background noise, a quick download and listen and onto the next thing.
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I think he's not only trying to give his opinion, but sounds like he thinks everybody should share it. He's always looked a little bit arrogant to me. Streaming music and mp3 players have done a lot to make people enjoy music even more, now you can hear to more music in more places. He seems to think that any past time was better than the present. People just appreciate music on different levels and ways now, but he interprets that as people not valuing music as they should, which isn't true. Even without iPods, some music had just fun value, some people didn't take the efforts of the artists seriously, and some people took the artists very seriously. The same happens now.
It doesn't bother me that he's an atheist, but he sounds very condescending and is off-base when he thinks that religion started as a reaction to the fear of dying.
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As someone who has studied religion and its historic relation to death, and who works with the subject every day I do believe death is a primary, if not the primary driving force behind religion.
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I seriously like Steven Wilson less and less with every interview I read with him.
Why?
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:corn
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Actually, I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that religion is fundamentally about anything but the fear of dying, besides perhaps a fear of the unknown (to the extent that these two things are different).
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I think Steven Wilson's views on the matter are completely valid. Obviously there are positives to the ways people listen to music these days (accessibility, convenience, etc.), but he IS right that something can be lost along the way. Ideally, I think a balance could be struck between the two.
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I think Steven Wilson's views on the matter are completely valid. Obviously there are positives to the ways people listen to music these days (accessibility, convenience, etc.), but he IS right that something can be lost along the way. Ideally, I think a balance could be struck between the two.
This. He's just passionate. I think it can sound a bit pretentious at times, but in all honesty this is obviously something he feels strongly about and is essentially his whole life/career. He is just trying to get his point of view out there, because it is a pretty under-represented one. Personally, I agree with a lot of his criticisms of modern music technology, and while he has acknowledged their benefits numerous times, it is something he feels detracts a lot of the creativity and work he puts into making the complete work. The reason he sounds like a "broken record" is because... well... people keep bringing the shit up in interviews. :lol He's not telling people how to listen to music, he is just saying how he thinks HIS music (as well as other musicians that share common thoughts with him) should be experienced. In the end, it is up to the listener.
The only part of that article that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the religion section, even though I pretty much agree with him. At the end of the day, none of us really know any truth behind religion, and I don't see why people have to act like they know the exacts of things like that... let people believe what they want to. In his defense though, he was asked the question, he didn't really bring it up himself.
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Another thing that I find interesting, is that Steven Wilson often gets questions about the modern "way" of listening to music, and he simply answers the questions. I also love it that he has been pushing his opinion as much as he can, because it has certainly affected me and changed my outlook on the matter. I already collected CD's when I started listening to Porcupine Tree, but Steven Wilson has really gotten me interested in more limited/rare stuff, I even ordered the limited edition of Grace For Drowning, something I wouldn't have done a few years ago with my look on things then. But it's just such a beautiful piece of art, and it was totally worth the ~50£ that it cost me.
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I think Steven Wilson's views on the matter are completely valid. Obviously there are positives to the ways people listen to music these days (accessibility, convenience, etc.), but he IS right that something can be lost along the way. Ideally, I think a balance could be struck between the two.
This. He's just passionate. I think it can sound a bit pretentious at times, but in all honesty this is obviously something he feels strongly about and is essentially his whole life/career. He is just trying to get his point of view out there, because it is a pretty under-represented one. Personally, I agree with a lot of his criticisms of modern music technology, and while he has acknowledged their benefits numerous times, it is something he feels detracts a lot of the creativity and work he puts into making the complete work. The reason he sounds like a "broken record" is because... well... people keep bringing the shit up in interviews. :lol He's not telling people how to listen to music, he is just saying how he thinks HIS music (as well as other musicians that share common thoughts with him) should be experienced. In the end, it is up to the listener.
The only part of that article that kind of rubbed me the wrong way was the religion section, even though I pretty much agree with him. At the end of the day, none of us really know any truth behind religion, and I don't see why people have to act like they know the exacts of things like that... let people believe what they want to. In his defense though, he was asked the question, he didn't really bring it up himself.
All of this. It's not like he just randomly went on some angry tangent about religion.
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Eh, there's always just been something that rubs me the wrong way about how he presents his views.
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I went through the interview again and I really like his stance on creativity and artistic freedom. He gives a lot of importance to being true to himself, and to try to explore new things in his music, without caring too much about what people think him and Mikael should be doing. Making and album like Storm Corrosion shows his courage and independence. I respect him a lot for that, and that actually makes me enjoy his music more. I've never been a SW fan with I really like his last solo effort and I've started to like his work with PT more and more.
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I seriously like Steven Wilson less and less with every interview I read with him.
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It started when he decided to start shooting up iPods :lol
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It started when he decided to start shooting up iPods :lol
verbally or with psychic bullets? I'd love to see a video of him destroying an ipod, :lol
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It started when he decided to start shooting up iPods :lol
verbally or with psychic bullets? I'd love to see a video of him destroying an ipod, :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgentes_(album)#iPod_destruction
-Marc.
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It started when he decided to start shooting up iPods :lol
verbally or with psychic bullets? I'd love to see a video of him destroying an ipod, :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgentes_(album)#iPod_destruction
-Marc.
:rollin
I guess if he wants to hate Ipods that's his choice, but here's my little personal spin on it. I listen to music before I go to bed every night, and as much as I'd like to listen to whole albums, I don't really want to be up til sunrise, so I just pick a few songs from different bands to listen to, if that reduces my experience of the music then I haven't noticed because I still love the songs and will listen to the albums in full during the day usually.
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He seems to go a bit far with the whole ant-MP3/iPod thing.
I love putting a CD on and listening to a whole album as a collective work, but I also listen to far more music thanks to digital formats, both on my computer and my Zune, and it's a very positive thing.
Not to mention, you can still listen to albums full through in MP3 format.
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But only unsophisticated plebians listen to mp3s.
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It started when he decided to start shooting up iPods :lol
verbally or with psychic bullets? I'd love to see a video of him destroying an ipod, :lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgentes_(album)#iPod_destruction
-Marc.
:rollin
I guess if he wants to hate Ipods that's his choice, but here's my little personal spin on it. I listen to music before I go to bed every night, and as much as I'd like to listen to whole albums, I don't really want to be up til sunrise, so I just pick a few songs from different bands to listen to, if that reduces my experience of the music then I haven't noticed because I still love the songs and will listen to the albums in full during the day usually.
The point isn't that Wilson only wants people listening to albums in full; plenty of people do that with iPods. What Wilson is really upset about is the audio compression that comes with MP3's coupled with what he believes to be the worse experience that comes from not holding a disc in your hand.
Do I agree? Not at all. I love physical copies of music too, but I'm young and poor and can't pay 15-20 bucks for something that costs 10 on iTunes, and I'm young enough that I don't have any good-ole-days of music to think back to.
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ahhh, I see. Well I guess I agree with him in that I like cds and records more, but mp3 files work out fantastically for me and I love my ipod.
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Now that I come to think of it, Xbox is a god to me, so that's probably why we don't see eye to eye on many things.
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Now that I come to think of it, Xbox is a god to me, so that's probably why we don't see eye to eye on many things.
:lol :lol :lol
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Eh, there's always just been something that rubs me the wrong way about how he presents his views.
Probably because he only presents it from the side of how he absorbs music. I'll listen to full albums but individual songs/blocks of songs do much more for me than entire albums a lot of the time. I could care less what's the "real" way of listening to an album since I don't have time to sit there, listen and flip through the album art for hours on end.
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Eh, there's always just been something that rubs me the wrong way about how he presents his views.
Probably because he only presents it from the side of how he absorbs music. I'll listen to full albums but individual songs/blocks of songs do much more for me than entire albums a lot of the time. I could care less what's the "real" way of listening to an album since I don't have time to sit there, listen and flip through the album art for hours on end.
Well, if he is trying to convince people to embrace the whole "album experience" again, why would he talk about the advantages of ipods/spotify/etc? And he HAS said before they have their uses, but he doesn't feel it should replace albums entirely, and I agree with that.
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Eh, there's always just been something that rubs me the wrong way about how he presents his views.
Probably because he only presents it from the side of how he absorbs music. I'll listen to full albums but individual songs/blocks of songs do much more for me than entire albums a lot of the time. I could care less what's the "real" way of listening to an album since I don't have time to sit there, listen and flip through the album art for hours on end.
Well, if he is trying to convince people to embrace the whole "album experience" again, why would he talk about the advantages of ipods/spotify/etc? And he HAS said before they have their uses, but he doesn't feel it should replace albums entirely, and I agree with that.
Exactly, everything has its uses, and moderation is good for almost anything, but in many cases the napster/ipod/technological revolution in music has all but obliterated the way Steven and his generation experienced music. I use my phone as an MP3 player, and I appreciate what I'm able to do with modern technology, but most are consumed by it and don't take music any further then what is cheap (or free) and convenient.
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But only unsophisticated plebians listen to mp3s.
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sonata's work lives on
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:rollin
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Holy lol. :lol
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https://starsdie.com/wp/new-storm-corrosion-biography-two-tracks-named/
Two songs have been named; the first song is apparently called "Drag Ropes" and the album-closer will be called "Ljudet Innan" (Ancient Music in english). Interesting with a Swedish title on the album.
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I wonder if there will be any vocals in swedish.
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I wonder if there will be any vocals in swedish.
That would be pretty cool, because then I would be one of the few on this forum who would understand it. :lol
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lol, zxlkho
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SO EXCITED FOR THIS ALBUM
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lol, zxlkho
lolkho
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Pre order up: https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=118307
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Pre order up: https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=118307
So...no plain CD or CD/BR or even just a BR release?.... :facepalm:
-Marc.
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Pretty sure there will be a standard edition too. This is just the pre-order for the boxsets.
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Awesuuuuuuum! I'm ready to fap to this album already. LEZ DO IT!
...Cept I can't cause I'm broke right now soooo... Hrm. But I'm definitely going for the super saiyan edition.
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I sure hope so.
Looks like $55.18 USD for the 2LP/CD/BR box set package before shipping... and with my estimated standard-shipping to Maryland, USA...
*drumroll*
$88.38
Yikes. I might have to get the plain CD or the CD/BR package later on. WAY too pricy for me, especially after pre-ordering OSI's T-shirt/CD bundle, Anathema's upcoming album, Flying Colors' T-Shirt/CD/Poster bundle, Steven Wilson's recent limited live album, Spock's Beard's X-Tour Live, and No-Man's Love And Endings CD/DVD package.
-Marc.
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Quadrochosis said the normal version is up on amazon.
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At first I thought it was $38.99 and I was totally happy. But no
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I sure hope so.
Looks like $55.18 USD for the 2LP/CD/BR box set package before shipping... and with my estimated standard-shipping to Maryland, USA...
*drumroll*
$88.38
Yikes. I might have to get the plain CD or the CD/BR package later on. WAY too pricy for me, especially after pre-ordering OSI's T-shirt/CD bundle, Flying Colors' T-Shirt/CD/Poster bundle, Steven Wilson's recent limited live album, Spock's Beard's X-Tour Live, and No-Man's Love And Endings CD/DVD package.
-Marc.
You can get it from the US roadrunner webstore
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Here's the pre-order link for the US: https://merch.roadrunnerrecords.com/storm-corrosion-collector-s-edition-double-lp-set-special-edition-blu-ray-cd-bundle.html
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ordered the cheaper version, better be great for that price.
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Ordered the Vinyl/CD/Blu-ray Bundle! Can't wait to frame the autographed 12*12. :hefdaddy
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From https://www.lastfm.fr/user/Jon_Satterley/library/music/Storm+Corrosion
Drag Ropes - 9:55
Storm Corrosion - 10:12
Hag - 6:28
Happy - 4:53
Lock Howl - 6:13
Ljudet Innan - 10:15
Official Tracklisting ? You decide. :corn
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Wow, nice find.
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Ohhhhh boy this is going to be interesting!
I LOVE that artwork! I need this. Needitneedit feedmeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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From https://www.lastfm.fr/user/Jon_Satterley/library/music/Storm+Corrosion
Drag Ropes - 9:55
Storm Corrosion - 10:12
Hag - 6:28
Happy - 4:53
Lock Howl - 6:13
Ljudet Innan - 10:15
Official Tracklisting ? You decide. :corn
In the US - Roadrunner link it says so too, so I guess it's correct...
https://merch.roadrunnerrecords.com/storm-corrosion-collector-s-edition-double-lp-set-special-edition-blu-ray-cd-bundle.html
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If it's true, then the album is shorter then I had expected. Still, that doesn't really matter if the music is epic.
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Hmm...it's still pretty pricey the US Roadrunner pre-order page. And I don't think I *really* need the LP's, so I'll probably wait until I've seen reviews of the album and heard more of it until I buy it...AFTER release, that is. Already got so much music on pre-order and more coming up that haven't had pre-orders yet that I am willing to save money for (especially bands/artists that are established and already big faves of mine like Rush, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Hasse Froberg & The Musical Companion, and a few more).
...Maybe after I get paid again in 2 weeks, I'll pre-order this. $58.99 isn't too bad for 2LP/CD/DVD/Lithograph.
-Marc.
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Damn, that is one beautiful album cover, I hadn't even realized. I'm still not sure though if I should get the deluxe-vinyl-whatever box set or just the normal CD... In the US preorder version of the deluxe thing there's an autographed poster mentioned, but is that not included in the UK version?
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Hmm...it's still pretty pricey the US Roadrunner pre-order page. And I don't think I *really* need the LP's, so I'll probably wait until I've seen reviews of the album and heard more of it until I buy it...AFTER release, that is. Already got so much music on pre-order and more coming up that haven't had pre-orders yet that I am willing to save money for (especially bands/artists that are established and already big faves of mine like Rush, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Hasse Froberg & The Musical Companion, and a few more).
...Maybe after I get paid again in 2 weeks, I'll pre-order this. $58.99 isn't too bad for 2LP/CD/DVD/Lithograph.
-Marc.
$59 is a pretty fantastic deal for all that in my opinion.
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Hmm...it's still pretty pricey the US Roadrunner pre-order page. And I don't think I *really* need the LP's, so I'll probably wait until I've seen reviews of the album and heard more of it until I buy it...AFTER release, that is. Already got so much music on pre-order and more coming up that haven't had pre-orders yet that I am willing to save money for (especially bands/artists that are established and already big faves of mine like Rush, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings, Hasse Froberg & The Musical Companion, and a few more).
...Maybe after I get paid again in 2 weeks, I'll pre-order this. $58.99 isn't too bad for 2LP/CD/DVD/Lithograph.
-Marc.
$59 is a pretty fantastic deal for all that in my opinion.
Indeed, and had I not just made a couple more pre-orders and purchased a $90 13DVD box-set, I would have pre-ordered this, but I'm going to be optimistic and hope that they still have pre-orders for the big package over the next 2 weeks.
-Marc.
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From https://www.lastfm.fr/user/Jon_Satterley/library/music/Storm+Corrosion
Drag Ropes - 9:55
Storm Corrosion - 10:12
Hag - 6:28
Happy - 4:53
Lock Howl - 6:13
Ljudet Innan - 10:15
Official Tracklisting ? You decide. :corn
I thought MA said every song was over 10 minutes...
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From https://www.lastfm.fr/user/Jon_Satterley/library/music/Storm+Corrosion
Drag Ropes - 9:55
Storm Corrosion - 10:12
Hag - 6:28
Happy - 4:53
Lock Howl - 6:13
Ljudet Innan - 10:15
Official Tracklisting ? You decide. :corn
I thought MA said every song was over 10 minutes...
Perhaps "Hag", "Happy" and "Lock Howl" form a suite that is 17:34 long?
Also... my prediction of the LP layout:
Side 1-
Drag Ropes - 9:55
Side 2-
Storm Corrosion - 10:12
Hag - 6:28
Side 3-
Happy - 4:53
Lock Howl - 6:13
Side 4-
Ljudet Innan - 10:15
-Marc.
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Just saw that that tracklist is confirmed.
Hmm here's how I'd break it down:
Side A - Drag Ropes, Storm Corrosion
Side B - Hag, Happy, Lock Howl
Side C - Ljudet Innan
Side D - bonus stuff
Previous SW releases usually have a bunch of bonus songs on Side D, so that's what I'm guessing.
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Also on the Roadrunner website, it says that on the Bluray, you get:
• 5.1 audio mix of entire self-titled album
• 2 exclusive demo tracks
• 5 instrumental tracks
But then the track listing is:
1. Drag Ropes
2. Storm Corrosion
3. Hag
4. Happy
5. Lock Howl
6. Ljudet Innan
7. Drag Ropes
8. Storm Corrosion
9. Hag
10. Happy
11. Lock Howl
12. Ljudet Innan
13. Drag Ropes (demo)
14. Hag (demo)
I have no idea why there are two versions for each song, and what the '5 instrumental tracks' are supposed to be. Maybe the first half are the regular songs with vocals, and the second half are just instrumental? But what's the odd one out, then?
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Well obviously it is.
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Well if there's only 5 instrumental versions, then one must not be just an instrumental version but some sort of alternative version, including vocals.
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One song could already be an instrumental.
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One song could already be an instrumental.
Then why have two versions of it?
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So that guy Jon Satterley (who listened to SC) is here: https://www.facebook.com/jon.satterley?ref=name
Let's make him force over the album.
Also, he works for RR Records...
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Well I thought you said there was 6 songs but 5 instrumental versions, so I thought that one song could already be an instrumental.
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Yeah but based on the tracklist there's two versions of each song...
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Ah ok, I didn't see that :) Yeah, like you said there could be instrumental versions of the other 5 songs but maybe an alternate version of this song?
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Think I'll hold off on this one. At least until I get to see the general reaction. I'm sure it will be great, but there's just so much coming out over the next few months.
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I am so goddamn excited for this album to come out.
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I am so goddamn excited for this album to come out.
^This guy. He knows what to get excited about. I've got blue balls because of this album. I just want it to finish me off and take me to heaven, that's all.
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The CD and CD/Blu-ray editions of the Storm Corrosion album are beginning to appear on various mail order sites for pre-order now. I realise not everyone has a blu-ray player, but if you do please try to hear the 96K/24 bit version, especially in surround sound. This is my personal favourite surround mix so far, something about the music lends itself perfectly to 5.1. All editions feature flat transfers of the mixes - to keep the music as natural and dynamic as possible the mastering stage has been completely bypassed, so please exercise your volume control for "loudness". (-:
From Steven Wilsons Facebook.
Absolutely no mastering at all? That makes me anticipate this even more! ;D
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Interesting...wow, so... What does that mean? Just that the instruments and their respective volumes haven't been tampered with? Er...
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Interesting...wow, so... What does that mean? Just that the instruments and their respective volumes haven't been tampered with? Er...
They're not going to compress or limit the album after it's mixed. Those tools make a song louder, but destroy the dynamics.
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Ah, okay. Gotcha..thanks! That's awesome, I can't wait for this.
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Why does mastering even exist?
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I'd imagine it exists so things are kept level on the radio and on recorded media, otherwise you could be subject to huge volume spikes and inaudibly quiet passages.
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mastering exists to prepare a consistent-sounding collection of material for distribution on particular formats. mastering is done differently for vinyl vs. digital (CD/download) releases, but it's about ensuring the entirety of the product, audio-wise, sounds like it belongs together. it's particularly important for collections of materials that were not recorded together in the same conditions, or were recorded with wildly different setups but intending to sound coherent together (if that makes any sense! sometimes it doesn't!). this is especially useful for compilation albums and artists whose sound includes a wide breadth of genres.
if everything is recorded professionally by people who know what they're doing – like SW – you can mix it so well that mastering isn't needed. it just so happens that most engineers, musicians, and producers aren't on that level (or, if it's your viewpoint, they aren't pompous enough to think they are!). Iron Maiden did this with one of their albums and while it isn't personally my favourite effort of theirs, it sounds consistent with their usual production, so they didn't miss much by bypassing mastering.
however, if your typical metal band records an album with Rick Rubin at the helm, somebody had better fucking get the thing mastered!
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So mastering is basically a cheap way of making something sound good?
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So mastering is basically a cheap way of making something sound good?
no to both sentiments — it isn't cheap at all, as it takes a well-experienced engineer with golden ears and proper equipment to do it well, and mastering can't make a shitty mix sound good no matter what expensive shit is applied to it.
of course, that isn't to say people don't do a shitpoor job of mastering stuff; it happens all the time. however, a given mastering engineer can only put out an amazing-sounding master if the producer has put the time and money into getting everything else right first AND isn't interested in exploding it for competitive or other non-musical intentions. if not, the mastering stage can't do much more than do its best to polish the turd.
producers and labels caused the loudness war, people. engineers make happen what they are told to make happen.
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Er, by 'cheap' I meant that it supplies 'quick-and-easy' gratification but is, in the end, inferior to the masterless material.
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Does anyone know if there's a pre-order for just the CD? I don't really want to get a box set.
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Sorry to derail the discussion, but I just preordered the 2LP + BR/CD combo :caffeine:
Feel free to continue the mastering discussion, it's very interesting (specially to those of us that don't know the first thing about production, mastering and all those things).
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I really hope they don't run out of the super deluxe edition. From what I know, there's always CDs/Blurays in stock, and it's just the vinyls that seem to go...not to mention that poster.
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Er, by 'cheap' I meant that it supplies 'quick-and-easy' gratification but is, in the end, inferior to the masterless material.
ah, sorry, misinterpreted that then.
mastering was born from a need; back in the day, nobody could cut vinyl with a lathe unless they knew a hell of a lot about sound and the format. it's also why there's a lot of 'smoke and mirrors' about mastering, as if it's this sacred tradition passed down through the families inside a secret society known to few.
at this point, mastering is probably still needed for some artists and albums, but an experienced mix engineer and producer team can often come up with the vast majority of the desired sound and consistency level. once everything fits together, if it's a straight-to-digital release, one could probably avoid mastering unless one is concerned with being competitively sharp and loud. for CD and other physical formats, though, it's probably still best to have it mastered. a mastering engineer who knows their shit may listen through the mixes of a disc they're preparing and decide not to touch a goddamn thing on one song because it sounds fine and fits well as is (but if the producer says it needs something, off to work they go...).
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Does anyone know if there's a pre-order for just the CD? I don't really want to get a box set.
Been on Amazon for weeks. Price still hasn't come down for the US site but there is still almost two months left until the release date.
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thanks.
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I am 100% sure this isn't Storm Corrosion.
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Nope, it's Mordet i Grottan by Sorkskogen, a one-off song he did with Dan Swano. Notice the chorus is the same as To Rid the Disease.
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That's good. Although that song wasn't bad by any means, it was certainly not what I was hoping for with SC.
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I'm sure it will be very different, don't worry.
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Does anyone know where I can pre-order just the CD/BluRay?
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Does anyone know where I can pre-order just the CD/BluRay?
https://www.burningshed.com/store/stevenwilson/
-Marc.
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Ordered.
Roughly $28 CAD, including shipping from the UK. Not bad.
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US pre-order for CD/Blu-ray on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Corrosion-Special-Edition-Blu-Ray-Limited/dp/B007K87C4M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332126446&sr=8-1 (https://www.amazon.com/Corrosion-Special-Edition-Blu-Ray-Limited/dp/B007K87C4M/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332126446&sr=8-1)
Only 5,000 copies will be sold in the US.
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So either you linked to an illegitimate version of a new song, or an illegitimate version of an old song. Either way it's against the rules.
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Are you serious? People have therefore been sharing illegitimate versions of songs in every single song roulette in GMD, and you call me out on linking to something that's not even the actual song.
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Are you serious? People have therefore been sharing illegitimate versions of songs in every single song roulette in GMD, and you call me out on linking to something that's not even the actual song.
I would suggest you use the report feature then. Posting links to songs that are uploaded from bands/labels etc are fine, but posting random youtube links is not.
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UK pre-order for CD/Blu-ray
https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/30289084/Storm-Corrosion/Product.html?searchstring=storm+corrosion&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search&P36=WNANXS&affid=roadrunnerrecords&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:roadrunnerrecords (https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/30289084/Storm-Corrosion/Product.html?searchstring=storm+corrosion&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search&P36=WNANXS&affid=roadrunnerrecords&awc=buyat&_$ja=tsid:11516|prd:roadrunnerrecords)
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www.stormcorrosion.com (https://www.stormcorrosion.com) is up
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www.stormcorrosion.com (https://www.stormcorrosion.com) is up
(https://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfz2imzgzh1qg7yn5o1_500.png)
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The webpage is not in comic sans, guys.
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It is ugly as sin, though.
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Are you serious? People have therefore been sharing illegitimate versions of songs in every single song roulette in GMD, and you call me out on linking to something that's not even the actual song.
I would suggest you use the report feature then. Posting links to songs that are uploaded from bands/labels etc are fine, but posting random youtube links is not.
Are we allowed to talk about leaked material that isn't DT?
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It is ugly as sin, though.
it sure is.
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I wonder if that was on purpose?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/__QXkw5oRrVE/STKx8niIaKI/AAAAAAAAAUY/z15bkaZvfhA/s400/Smiley)
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www.stormcorrosion.com (https://www.stormcorrosion.com) is up
Is that really the site? It's terrible.
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www.stormcorrosion.com (https://www.stormcorrosion.com) is up
Is that really the site? It's terrible.
Understandable that they aren't doing a super expensive / 150% effort thing when it's a project that might never release an album again. :P
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Are you serious? People have therefore been sharing illegitimate versions of songs in every single song roulette in GMD, and you call me out on linking to something that's not even the actual song.
I would suggest you use the report feature then. Posting links to songs that are uploaded from bands/labels etc are fine, but posting random youtube links is not.
Are we allowed to talk about leaked material that isn't DT?
Usually it's only if you make no reference to it being a leak that you're listening to and if the artist has requested that you don't.
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So I just did a runthru of the discography of Scott Walker, who has been mentioned quite a bit as an influence for Storm Corrosion. I'm in the middle of The Drift right now and it is a freaking fantastic album. Even if SC manages to be just a shadow of The Drift, it's going to be great.
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The Drift is indeed awesome.
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I forgot who mentioned it or turned me onto his music (Sir Sigzagoon, I believe) but I listened to The Drift a while back as well and really loved it. Very haunting and interesting, it definitely pulls the listener into a world of its own. I can't say I'd want the same from SC, but having it as an influence doesn't hurt; that's very intriguing though.
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Now that I think of it, Scott Walker might have been a big influence for Steven. Musically "Track One" off GFD is something Scott Walker would cook up. There's also a Scott Walker album with song titles "Track Three", "Track Five", etc.
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I can definitely see strokes of influence from that genre, so I could see SW being inspired by Walker; Bass Communion definitely comes to mind foremost. But yeah GFD has some remnants of that style. It's not my favorite part of SW's music, but when used in moderation, it brings some depth and atmosphere to the songs, that's for sure.
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Does the special edition bluray/CD pack have high-res 96K/24bit stereo mixes?
The track listing suggests it has 5.1 mixes and instrumentals, with the stereo mixes (I presume) being on the standard CD.
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Just judging on Steven's prior special packages, I'd be willing to bet many many dollars that the blu-ray will have hi-res stereo as an option.
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So I just did a runthru of the discography of Scott Walker, who has been mentioned quite a bit as an influence for Storm Corrosion.
Woah, seriously? Got any links?
Scott Walker's recent music is some of the most fucked up stuff I've ever heard. Can't get through The Drift in one sitting.
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So I just did a runthru of the discography of Scott Walker, who has been mentioned quite a bit as an influence for Storm Corrosion.
Woah, seriously? Got any links?
Scott Walker's recent music is some of the most fucked up stuff I've ever heard. Can't get through The Drift in one sitting.
In a couple different audio interviews, Steven's mentioned Scott Walker as an influence for at least Mikael.
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I have a strange feeling telling me that I'll have a tough/long time getting into this album, much like what happened with Heritage.
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The limited Special Edition Storm Corrosion Double LP & Blu-Ray set has now SOLD OUT at StereoBoutique.
(This store was for orders outside the US)
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Does the special edition bluray/CD pack have high-res 96K/24bit stereo mixes?
The track listing suggests it has 5.1 mixes and instrumentals, with the stereo mixes (I presume) being on the standard CD.
Tracklisting states that there are high-res high-res 96K/24bit stereo mixes of all the songs.. Link below to tracklisting that shows this info.
https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/30289084/Storm-Corrosion/Product.html?searchstring=storm+corrosion&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search (https://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/30289084/Storm-Corrosion/Product.html?searchstring=storm+corrosion&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search)
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Have the CD/Blu-Ray set pre-ordered, really looking forward to this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ0hmgn2bSk&feature=g-u-u&context=G2387cd8FUAAAAAAAGAA
I love them both, but holy SHIT they're so awkward. :lol
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https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=119004
Hilarious. I don't even know why I'm laughing so much. Mikael with the shades and the cigarette, SW when he asks Mikael if he could find Opeth in the bargain bin. :lol
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Just preordered this album. :metal
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https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=119004
Hilarious. I don't even know why I'm laughing so much. Mikael with the shades and the cigarette, SW when he asks Mikael if he could find Opeth in the bargain bin. :lol
This is such a weird group of people. I feel like the two would insult each other in between songs if they every played live. :lol
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Haha September huh? Well I guess her voice is pretty good but her music is pretty meh.
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Steven said in a chat with Rolling Stone magazine in Mexico that the music video for Drag Ropes should be out next week.
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https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=119004
Hilarious. I don't even know why I'm laughing so much. Mikael with the shades and the cigarette, SW when he asks Mikael if he could find Opeth in the bargain bin. :lol
Really, what an awesome duo.
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I think a lot of people here will be disappointed with the album... Just a guess.
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I think a lot of people here will be disappointed with the album... Just a guess.
Yeah I think the same. Personally I'm pretty sure I will like it, but seeing how many people disliked Heritage, this might not be their thing at all.
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I'm not expecting to love it, but I think I'll like it. Just like Heritage.
If only they had done this collaboration circa 2005....Ghost Reveries meets Deadwing would have been amazing.
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Well, they've always stated that they didn't want to do something progressive in the sense that they wanted something different than another progressive rock supergroup. Nevertheless, a combination of those albums would be awesome, yes.
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I'm very glad they're going avant-garde instead of prog metal.
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https://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/page/News?news_id=119004
Hilarious. I don't even know why I'm laughing so much. Mikael with the shades and the cigarette, SW when he asks Mikael if he could find Opeth in the bargain bin. :lol
Really, what an awesome duo.
"I've been listening to Opeth, only Opeth. Actually, only Heritage. The mixing on that record is really spot on"
:rollin :rollin
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I am definitely glad that they're doing something completely off the wall. More musicians need to do that. You can always come back to more familiar styles as well, but it's good to just let the creativity go and find yourself heading in strange new directions sometimes.
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"All the Opeth records you didn't produce...the good ones" :lol :lol :lol Mikael cracks me up.
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I'm not expecting to love it, but I think I'll like it. Just like Heritage.
If only they had done this collaboration circa 2005....Ghost Reveries meets Deadwing would have been amazing.
I really want something like that now. :sadpanda:
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Good chatter with both guys here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0lQN6pczbY&feature=player_embedded
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They seem really giddy about it, which makes me excited. :D
Also, is that a World of Warcraft Collectors Edition behind Steven? :lol
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Orchestrial experimental music which is all over the place in a good way featuring Steven Wilson and Mikael Åkerfeldt? I am confused but I feel excited.
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I'm not expecting to love it, but I think I'll like it. Just like Heritage.
If only they had done this collaboration circa 2005....Ghost Reveries meets Deadwing would have been amazing.
I really want something like that now. :sadpanda:
Yep, back before both of them were making crap albums.
:neverusethis:
I kid, I kid. I'm kind of hoping for less of a Heritage meets Grace For Drowning because I feel that would be much more interesting than Remainder The Devil's Orchard.
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I'm hoping for a jazz infused technical death metal album.
If only.
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Since I absolutely adore Heritage, I feel like I have a good shot at liking this as well.
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I feel it won't be anything like Heritage.
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I feel it won't be anything like Heritage.
I think it will have elements from Heritage and Grace For Drowning, without really sounding similar to any of them. I've listened to quite some Scott Walker over the years (he's a major influence on the album) and if it's anything like The Drift, I think some people will get creeped out, and some will love it. :lol
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I feel it won't be anything like Heritage.
Yeah, I really don't understand why people keep comparing this album to Heritage. I know it is supposed to be the third album in a "trilogy", but I don't think it will sound anything like GFD or Heritage.
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I know it is supposed to be the third album in a "trilogy"
It is?
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Yuppies. They've both stated it's the third in an 'odd trilogy' of albums containing Steven Wilson's Grace For Drowning, Opeth's Heritage, and Storm Corrosion being the last. Obviously not a classic trilogy in the sense that they are all connected directly, but I'm assuming that's why the adjective of 'odd' is thrown in. I'm guessing it's more of a vibe and atmospheric storytelling than anything. I have a feeling that this album was randomly called a trilogy just to tie together the fact that Akerfeldt and Wilson are collaborators rather than them actually discussing the idea of a trilogy of albums whilst they made their own respective albums. Which interests me, but also draws a bit of suspicion on what their goal is with this project. Either way, I am super excitebike.
I don't think it will sound anything like either GFD or Heritage given the orchestral emphasis that the album seems to have (especially if those samples we've been hearing before those interviews are any indication); but that's a good thing. While I love both Heritage and GFD, something new would be even more amazing to connect these albums. I'm wondering though if they will use some kind of thematic element from both albums and sprinkle it over this new one to connect them. Either that or it really is quite the odd trilogy in that they have nothing in common except the fact that the musicians are the same.
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I feel it won't be anything like Heritage.
Well, I was more saying that because I like what Akerfeldt has done while moving away from his standard metal roots. Not because I think it will sound a lot like Heritage.
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on amazon the genres for the album are "hard rock & metal rock" :lol
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Metal rock is the best them genre.
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Storm Corrosion song samples are up on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/Storm-Corrosion/dp/B007UWH3O2/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1334681706&sr=8-14 (https://www.amazon.com/Storm-Corrosion/dp/B007UWH3O2/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1334681706&sr=8-14)
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Yeah, sounds as expected.
These two together could have been so much more than a Heritage/GfD collaboration. Call me old fashioned, but I want to listen to some fucking metal. Or, at the very least, some good progressive rock music.
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As if there isn't already a ton of metal/progressive rock out there for people to enjoy. Try and create something new? Fuck that!
The samples don't even sound like a "Heritage/GfD collaberation" in the first place.
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Yeah, I agree. While a Ghost Reveries/Deadwing fusion would be cool (like Gadough pointed out), personally it wouldn't excite me much. I think there are a lot of artists who play it safe and stick to one genre through their career, and I think that Steven Wilson has shown us through his projects that he is good at many different styles. Mikael Åkerfeldt has mostly only done Metal or Progressive music in that sense, so it will be very interesting to see how Mikael fits into this a bit "different" music, we all know that Wilson can do pretty much whatever he wants and get away with it.
The weirder the better is how I see it. I would love it if Mikael and Steven did an electronic album for instance. :hat
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Fucking gorgeous; this is exactly what I wanted from this project. This is a relief, I was hoping they wouldn't go too orchestral and ambiance-driven; while there seems to be plenty of that, there's also a great mixture of the classic Akerfelt/Wilson touches from their own styles. I had a slight fear that it'd be almost too melodic and mellow but tracks like Lock Howl have put that fear to rest. It all sounds magnificent!
Yeah, sounds as expected.
These two together could have been so much more than a Heritage/GfD collaboration. Call me old fashioned, but I want to listen to some fucking metal. Or, at the very least, some good progressive rock music.
:lol I keep hearing these comments about a Heritage/GFD collaboration as if this is a surprise, or as if it'd be disappointing. I mean, if it is disappointing then that's fine, (opinions ollolol) but it shouldn't come as anything but completely expected. You definitely won't be getting any metal or straight-up prog-rock here, nor should you have expected anything like that given the amount of anti-metal rhetoric Wilson has been spewing recently, along with Opeth's new direction. I'm with Wilson in that I'm getting tired of metal in general; it's bored me to hell and back again. It's nice to hear something that has a bit more depth and breathing room to expand; something left to the imagination. (Not that metal doesn't have that, I don't want to start a dumbshit firefuck, I hate those).
I think I'm going to love the hell out of this album; I have a feeling this is going to blow my expectations out of the water...perhaps my new favorite thing since my fleshlight (and that's my favorite thing since portable corn). It does have touches of Wilson's solo albums and Akerfeldt's newfound style, but overall (after just finishing the sample tracks) it doesn't sound anything like a straight mixture of Heritage/GFD. With this, I'm pretty sure not only am I going to be fulfilled in that area but it also sounds like there will be some surprises in that it may be (in some areas) more hardcore than I expected. MUSICAL BONERS!
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Yeah, sounds as expected.
These two together could have been so much more than a Heritage/GfD collaboration. Call me old fashioned, but I want to listen to some fucking metal. Or, at the very least, some good progressive rock music.
No that would be terrible! :lol I'm very glad they decided to go experimental.
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The sample for Lock Howl = awesomeness. :coolio
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If it's in the more experimental vein I think I'll hold off on listening. The more out there approaches of these two are hard to get behind in small clips I think, and I already have it pre-ordered so I'll just wait for the full shebang.
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Yeah, sounds as expected.
These two together could have been so much more than a Heritage/GfD collaboration. Call me old fashioned, but I want to listen to some fucking metal. Or, at the very least, some good progressive rock music.
I guess I liked what I heard, but I agree with this. I don't know, obviously those were just samples, but they did nothing for me at all. Just sounded like a blend of the softer moments of Heritage and GfD. :I
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Yeah, sounds as expected.
These two together could have been so much more than a Heritage/GfD collaboration. Call me old fashioned, but I want to listen to some fucking metal. Or, at the very least, some good progressive rock music.
I guess I liked what I heard, but I agree with this. I don't know, obviously those were just samples, but they did nothing for me at all. Just sounded like a blend of the softer moments of Heritage and GfD. :I
Yeah, I almost fell asleep by those samples but Lock Howl showed some promise.
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The samples weren't anything special, but if the album is as Wilson and Akerfeldt described it, it makes sense that this isn't an album that would take well to sampling.
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It's only showing the samples for Storm Corrosion and Ljudet Innan here... Why...
Storm Corrosion sounds great.
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The samples weren't anything special, but if the album is as Wilson and Akerfeldt described it, it makes sense that this isn't an album that would take well to sampling.
This.
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As usual I won't listen because I want to go into the album with not a single second spoiled. Still, really excited about the release. :)
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Weird. Amazon doesn't have samples that I can play.
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Weird. Amazon doesn't have samples that I can play.
They took down the samples. I'm surprised it took them so long actually.
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The music video for "Drag Ropes" is supposed to be coming out this week according to Steven.
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Weird. Amazon doesn't have samples that I can play.
Same here.
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Weird. Amazon doesn't have samples that I can play.
They took down the samples. I'm surprised it took them so long actually.
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fuck the police
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Those god damn Amazonians.
Butsrsly, it wasn't much; if anything it'd only serve to hinder your excitement considering the samples they picked weren't exactly high points. At least I hope they weren't (the exception being Lock Howl). I'm excited for the Drag Ropes video though. This album is going to be very interesting, and even more so will be this place's reaction to the album...
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As usual I won't listen because I want to go into the album with not a single second spoiled. Still, really excited about the release. :)
Yeah same, same reason I never listen to singles before the album comes out :)
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As usual I won't listen because I want to go into the album with not a single second spoiled. Still, really excited about the release. :)
Yeah same, same reason I never listen to singles before the album comes out :)
I do the same! o/
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As usual I won't listen because I want to go into the album with not a single second spoiled. Still, really excited about the release. :)
Yeah same, same reason I never listen to singles before the album comes out :)
I do the same! o/
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I might have missed something, but...
have they announced a release date (besides april/may 2012) yet?
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I might have missed something, but...
have they announced a release date (besides april/may 2012) yet?
May 7. :)
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lol at the opeth fans expecting metal from this project
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lol at the opeth fans expecting metal from this project
Especially seeing as Heritage wasn't even metal. :biggrin:
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lol at the opeth fans expecting metal from this project
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lol at the opeth fans expecting metal from this project
I don't see anyone in here expecting metal from this, it's just what some of us would prefer...
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Preference or not, Wilson is not a metal guy, and Opeth's music has gotten less heavy recently, so this album not being metal can't be a surprise to anyone.
Ultimately, people should just listen to it for what it is, instead of focusing on what it isn't.
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Preference or not, Wilson is not a metal guy, and Opeth's music has gotten less heavy recently, so this album not being metal can't be a surprise to anyone.
Ultimately, people should just listen to it for what it is, instead of focusing on what it isn't.
Oh it doesn't surprise anyone, from what I've seen at least, I mean the whole time they've stated it wouldn't be, and while I'll probably enjoy it, I just miss Mikael being a heavy dude. But like I said, I'll enjoy this, I mean I'm fine with mellow stuff, I just hope Opeth gets heavy again after this nice venture.
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The full 10-minute video for Drag Ropes will premiere on Roadrunner's Youtube channel tomorrow at 11am EST!
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:caffeine: :tup
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It's not surprising that Mikael's gravitated away from metal, if not because he's been playing it for over two decades, because most people mellow out as they get older. I can't even fathom how guys like Judas Priest can keep playing metal into their 50s and 60s. Anyway, Storm Corrosion sounds awesome. I'm glad Steven and Mikael made something like this.
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I have a promo of this particular album that I literally just received....
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It's pretty much what I expected it to be...mostly ambience. It's alright, I suppose. It's relaxing. One or two good songs.
Ultimately, however, a massive disappointment in my eyes. (or ears)
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Not my kind of music either.
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I don't really hear how "experimental" this is. Just sounds like the sort of mellow, ambient music Steven Wilson and Mikael Akerfeldt would make to me. :lol I like it though.
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Almost done with the second track, Storm Corrosion. It is pretty much what I expected, Soundtracky and Atmospheric.
I won't say it's disappointing, since it is what I expected. It will be something to listen to when you need something moody and mellow, but picture the mellow parts of Heritage, and the spacyness of Grace For Downing and you got Storm Corrosion.
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Almost done with the second track, Storm Corrosion. It is pretty much what I expected, Soundtracky and Atmospheric.
I won't say it's disappointing, since it is what I expected. It will be something to listen to when you need something moody and mellow, but picture the mellow parts of Heritage, and the spacyness of Grace For Downing and you got Storm Corrosion.
Pretty much this.
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Would have much preferred this without vocals. I love both of their voices, but it just sounds awkward to me.
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Really beautiful and unique album. It feels like they're inventing entirely new musical genres on it.
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Would have much preferred this without vocals. I love both of their voices, but it just sounds awkward to me.
luckily, you can have the instrumental version soon ;)
i've only heard the first two songs so far. really bizarre and new for both guys, but excellent. seems like SW enjoys bringing out his Bass Communion side when he writes music with others (see No-man).
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I liked it. Its a very pretty album, no doubt, but also very strange in places. I don't think it creates an entirely new genre or anything, but it is really cool to finally hear what these guys decided to make. It'll definitely be an album that grows on me, I think.
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I'm liking it more than Heritage that's for sure.
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lolheritage
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def. a soundtrack vibe. Digging this and will get better with more listens.
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It wasn't that great in my opinion. Moments of very beautiful music, but also incredibly underwhelming and no absolutely fantastic moments. Kind of what I expected, but oh well.
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It wasn't that great in my opinion. Moments of very beautiful music, but also incredibly underwhelming and no absolutely fantastic moments. Kind of what I expected, but oh well.
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these are the reactions i expected. will wait for the cd.
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Well, first playthrough:
80% weird and not impressive
20% nice guitar awesomeness
I don't know. I'll give it another chance, but ultimately I'm not happy.
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Well, first playthrough:
80% weird and not impressive
20% nice guitar awesomeness
I don't know. I'll give it another chance, but ultimately I'm not happy.
Everyone keeps saying what I feel
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these are the reactions i expected. will wait for the cd.
I'm not listening to any leaks, I'm just going to wait...
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I thought it was fucking amazing. Best release of 2012 so far. I love odd atmosphericness so this is right up my alley.
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I thought it was fucking amazing. Best release of 2012 so far. I love odd atmosphericness so this is right up my alley.
hmm i think i'm going to love this
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Hmm pretty much what I expected - slow and ambient stuff. Not my type of music. But I'm sure you guys will love it.
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STORM CORROSION
OF LOVE AND EMOTION
BABAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAt4RTd-HUs
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Haven't heard past "Storm Corrosion" (the song) but I'll finish listening later.
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The parody is quite possibly the best music ever made. :rollin
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manW5v-AR7U
Official video for Drag Ropes
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I think Drag Ropes is incredibly bizarre, but the rest of the album was pretty enjoyable listening.
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Wow, I really think that video was, well, too 'normal'. I love the low church bell sounds, but apart from that it was way more of a 'song' to me than I thought the album would become.
I really hoped for a really dark, droney version of Bass Communion, but with Mikael's awesomeness. And yes, I thought it to be instrumental.
Well, I guess I'll have to completely reset my expectations, and start with an open mind over again.
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The album isn't out until May, so I don't know what you guys were talking about. I'm beginning my first listen of drag ropes immediately.
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They should make a movie out of that music video. It would be the most insanely depressing movie of all time.
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Drag Ropes was insanely cool! I really enjoyed it. I'm surprised by the drums -- I was expecting it to more or less be ambient noise the entire time, but they got really close to a rocking groove in the middle there.
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The album isn't out until May, so I don't know what you guys were talking about. I'm beginning my first listen of drag ropes immediately.
Album leaked a while ago. It has been on the polish iTunes store for weeks apparently.
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Wow, I really think that video was, well, too 'normal'. I love the low church bell sounds, but apart from that it was way more of a 'song' to me than I thought the album would become.
I really hoped for a really dark, droney version of Bass Communion, but with Mikael's awesomeness. And yes, I thought it to be instrumental.
Well, I guess I'll have to completely reset my expectations, and start with an open mind over again.
Exactly all my thoughts, though I stopped the song after 4 minutes, because I don't really want to be spoiled. I have had it on pre-order for weeks now.
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Wow, I really think that video was, well, too 'normal'. I love the low church bell sounds, but apart from that it was way more of a 'song' to me than I thought the album would become.
I really hoped for a really dark, droney version of Bass Communion, but with Mikael's awesomeness. And yes, I thought it to be instrumental.
Well, I guess I'll have to completely reset my expectations, and start with an open mind over again.
Exactly all my thoughts, though I stopped the song after 4 minutes, because I don't really want to be spoiled. I have had it on pre-order for weeks now.
Yeah, well, I'll say no more then.
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Wow, this is album is blowing my expectations out of the water. I am adoring every second thus far; I'm about to start Lock Howl, so I'm almost through it but I don't want it to end. This is definitely much more involved and badass than I thought it'd be. The film for Drag Ropes was really killer as well, I loved how they told an actual story instead of trying to be obscure and unique by plastering many different crazy images that really don't have much to do with the music. This however went along with the music awesomely and really brought something to the video, and visa versa; very well done, I'd like to see more videos like this. I like that style as well, the old story-book-esque play with puppets.
I'm going to need much more time with the album to have a complete opinion of it but right now I can see this easily being my favorite album to come out in the past couple years. It's everything I wanted and more. I'm especially loving the Deadwing-style backing vocals that Wilson has been doing throughout the album; along with Akerfeldts haunting, ghostly vocals, creates a very eerie, gothic feel to the atmosphere. I love it. I want more. These two men have such an amazing chemistry together and I'd really like them to work together again. I haven't even finished the album and I'm already foaming at the mouth for more. Really amazing stuff, beautifully disfigured and hauntingly sexy. Mmm... I wish it were storming, pouring rain and dark outside though. All this sun and blue sky is really fuckin' with my vibe.
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For me, I'm disappointed because I'm all for atmospheric albums, but this one really doesn't keep my attention. The whole time I'm waiting for something to just happen and sometimes it does, but most of the time it never does and I just keep sitting or walking or whatever I'm doing still waiting. It's like the opposite of Ghost in that regards, with Ghost I'm captivated and it keeps awing me, where as this doesn't ever really do that. Will give it a few more listens, it's nice walking weather, so maybe walking along to it will help.
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OK Drag Ropes was really good!! I can't wait for the rest!! :tup
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Drag Ropes and Happy are standouts so far, but I haven't listened to much of the rest of the album.
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The only thing I've heard is Drag Ropes, just watched the video. It was fucking weird.
I liked it.
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Jesus I am in love with Ljudet Innan; Mikael's voice is so beautiful in the beginning of the song, that is some truly sexy stuff right there. Happy is probably my second favorite at this point. This is one album that is going to need much time to breath, however; for as much as I love it now, it seems like there's a lot more to discover underneath all that ambiance.
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The parody is quite possibly the best music ever made. :rollin
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Drag Ropes is friggin' awesome.
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After my first listen I was like "hey that was really good".
After subsequent listens, I'm like "HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME".
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:tup :tup
Hag is amazing.
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This is exactly what i wanted.
Drag Ropes is just great (vocal melodies are freaking awesome, this song really sets the mood for what's to come, even if the only song with this "theatrical feel.")
Storm Corrosion has a BIG Scott Walker feel to it, twisted in a Wilson's way which make it a standout.
Lock Howl is just fantastic, makes me think of Voyage 34 turning into the best guitar work on the album (IMO)
Ljudet Innan screams for Talk Talk, if you haven't heard Spirit of Even, you should get your hands on it right away !
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So far, I am digging this more and more on every listen. At first, it seemed a bit too samey or minimalistic, but it's like they grabbed on to a vibe and rode it for the whole drive.
I get that some will be turned off by this since it isn't what they were expecting or hoping for, but you at least have to give them mad props for doing this. They could have easily done a project that was a hybrid of Opeth and PT, and most would have been happy, but they were more concerned with expressing their true artistic selves than making the fans happy. That is a very easy thing to admire. :tup :tup
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I'm very interested in this record, but I'm not going to listen to it until I get familiar with Opeth and Wilson's solo works. That way I'd have a better perspective on it.
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So far, I am digging this more and more on every listen. At first, it seemed a bit too samey or minimalistic, but it's like they grabbed on to a vibe and rode it for the whole drive.
I get that some will be turned off by this since it isn't what they were expecting or hoping for, but you at least have to give them mad props for doing this. They could have easily done a project that was a hybrid of Opeth and PT, and most would have been happy, but they were more concerned with expressing their true artistic selves than making the fans happy. That is a very easy thing to admire. :tup :tup
That's what I love about musicians who do whatever they feel like.
Storm Corrosion, the title, sounds like being in a cloud witnessing the birth of a thunderstorm. Let's see if the music portrays this.
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I'm very interested in this record, but I'm not going to listen to it until I get familiar with Opeth and Wilson's solo works. That way I'd have a better perspective on it.
It's nothing lie PT or Opeth. I'd listen to it now, it sounds nothing like either band.
I love PT,and I'd hate for them to ever break up, but if things like this is what is to follow in the possible eventual break up of Porcupine Tree, I would have absolutely no problem with it. Astonishingly beautiful record. Unlike anything I have ever heard before. I wasn't TOO impressed with Grace for Drowning, but this is everything I hoped GFD would be when I first heard about it. Beautiful, expansive, and expanding. Mikael sounds incredible on this album, and the vocal layering is BRILLIANT! I cannot wait to show this record to people, because I'm really tempted to say this is already album of the year already. :lol
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I really like the clapping part in one of the songs.
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Just saw the Drag Ropes video, and that was amazing. The video portrays the emotion in the music, haunting evil sadness, it was perfect. Think I'll listen to the album now.
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I'm liking this album more and more.
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It is growing on me however it won't be something that I listen too often, it'll have to be something I'm in the mood for.
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Not a fan of Drag Ropes. The title track is amazing. Haven't listen to the rest enough yet.
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Drag Ropes is meh.
I think I'm destined to not like this, considering I didn't like Heritage and more or less can't stand Steven Wilson.
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Listened to the album six times so far; still feel like it has quite a bit more to grow on me, and it gets better every time.
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I feel the same and have listened to it about the same amount of times I think. I love every single second of it, especially Hag and the title track. But it does still have some room to grow, for sure.
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I love it :biggrin:
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The first half of the album is fantastic, and the second half continues to grow on me.
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Listening to this for the first time. It's amazing so far.
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At the risk of sounding like a bigger fanboy than I already am, I have to admit this might be one of the best things either artist have ever done.
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At the risk of sounding like a bigger fanboy than I already am, I have to admit this might be one of the best things either artist have ever done.
Nope. ;)
I wish I could say I enjoy this, but I just can't even finish one song.
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I'll wait until I get the physical copy before I'm going to listen to it. I'm very interested in hearing it though.
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I'll wait until I get the physical copy before I'm going to listen to it. I'm very interested in hearing it though.
This.
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At the risk of sounding like a bigger fanboy than I already am, I have to admit this might be one of the best things either artist have ever done.
Nope. ;)
Oh, okay. My bad. Sorry, won't happen again. ;)
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At the risk of sounding like a bigger fanboy than I already am, I have to admit this might be one of the best things either artist have ever done.
Nope. ;)
Oh, okay. My bad. Sorry, won't happen again. ;)
:laugh:
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So far I'm definitely getting a "love it or hate it" kind of vibe from the comments here. :) I love both PT and Opeth, but I also dig experimental/ambient/avant garde music (been on a bit of a post-rock kick lately) and this sounds like it might be right up my alley. Waiting to listen to it until it arrives next week.
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I'm not really surprised by the reactions. This is a DT-forum, and most (if not all) people here were drawn here for the love in Progressive music. I know there are several people here in GMD that likes more experimental music, but there's still people who mainly listens to progressive and doesn't like experimental stuff. :P
It's logical really.
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How gorgeous is Hag? I'll go with very. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy
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I'll wait until I get the physical copy before I'm going to listen to it. I'm very interested in hearing it though.
Same. I'm also not really listening to Drag Ropes. I don't want to overplay it before I get the album.
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There is this verse in Hag that is sickeningly awesome; it's so dark and eerie. But there is a line in it that I cannot sound out and it's killin' me. Help, sensitive, developed ear friends!
I think it goes:
Corner of the church yard
You twisted up my future
My useless dog
???(incarcerate 'n dread now?)???
You separate the heart and you'll lose me
You hag
Anyone that can help is thanked infinitely and gets a net french kiss.
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For those who have listened to the album, how is the sound quality? I was reading somewhere that the production was sub-par compared to other past works and on the video for Drag Ropes, I found the mix to be a little off-putting (then again its YouTube so the quality isn't always great!) For example, right when Akerfeldt's verse comes in, the string orchestra drops really low in the mix which to me sounded a little un-polished and noticeable.
Regardless I cannot wait till the baby drops in my mailbox next week! :metal
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The mix on Drag Ropes is great judging from the youtube version. It's obvious that the production is going to be different from their previous output considering it's... well, different.
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It's here! Blu-ray player, here I come!
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I can't wait to hear how this sounds on a good system once my CD arrives.
Also, is anyone else not that fond of Ljudet Innan? I mean, it is not a bad song, but it is the one I would call boring and just kind of there. Fortunately, the other five tunes are all aces. :tup :tup
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Sorry as much as i love these guys this album bores me
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Everything about the album is amazing, including the video. The only thing that bugs me is the awkward transitions between songs. It seems like some songs (like Lock Howl off the top of my head), just stop. Hopefully they flow together smoothly on the CD.
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Sorry as much as i love these guys this album bores me
I mean - It's nice, and I really like some parts, but it's a pretty big letdown.
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Everything about the album is amazing, including the video. The only thing that bugs me is the awkward transitions between songs. It seems like some songs (like Lock Howl off the top of my head), just stop. Hopefully they flow together smoothly on the CD.
Ya know, someone really needs to tell musicians everywhere that abruptly ending songs like that isn't original or clever anymore (if it ever was); it is annoying. Granted, if that is what their creative vision dictates, then so be it, but those kind of endings are almost always annoying. I still dig Lock Howl, but wish the song had an actual end to it. Oh well, I can always edit it in Audacity and fade out the last 15 seconds for my mp3 of it. :)
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Just got my copy today. After a couple listens through, I'm really enjoying the feel of this album. It definitely has a feel to it similar to Heritage. 2 great musicians, working together to make a great album. What more could an audiophile like myself ask for?
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The ending of Lock Howl pisses me off! That's my favorite song. Mikael said that all the songs were over 10 minutes long. I wonder why they truncated Lock Howl. By the way, anyone played Age Of Empires II? That song reminds me of the soundtrack.
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Listened to it twice so far. I really like it but its not a masterpiece, just a really good album. Its pretty much what I expected and I'm satisfied. I'd say the standouts for me are Storm Corrosion, Lock Howl, and Ljudet Innan. This will be a really cool album to play late at night.
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Got this in while I was away the past two days, but it'll take 2nd billing to the new Arjen CD I got at RoSfest, still psyched to hear it and see which side of the seeming big divide I fall on.
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If you're psyched about the new Arjen release you'll probably hate Storm Corrosion. :biggrin:
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I'm psyched about the new Arjen, and I love Storm Corrosion.
YOU'RE JUST WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
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I'm psyched about the new Arjen, and I love Storm Corrosion.
YOU'RE JUST WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Tahlia knows what's up.
In any case my PS3 seems to have died, which sucks on about 10 different levels, one of which is I got the Blu-Ray of the new album. I'm torn between just listening to the CD in the meanwhile, or waiting for a fix/new PS3 before listening.
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I still haven't listened to this whole album lol :-\
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If you're psyched about the new Arjen release you'll probably hate Storm Corrosion. :biggrin:
I'm psyched for both and getting both the same day :P
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If you're psyched about the new Arjen release you'll probably hate Storm Corrosion. :biggrin:
I'm psyched for both and getting both the same day :P
Both are amazing! :hefdaddy (IMO)
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Almost through my first listen, and it's pretty much what I expected it would sound like. I like it, but I also feel like it's far too early to have a real opinion of it, I can probably have one after 5-10 spins.
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I still haven't listened to this whole album lol :-\
Oh Drew.
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Can't wait to pick it the album tomorrow.
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After a few more spins I must say that the album is really good. Don't get the negative feedback, I feel like the album offers lots if interesting ideas and good songs, to me it just feels like "it isnt progressive, therefor it isnt good"-bs.
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Such a beautiful album. Listened to it again last night and I have a newfound boner for the title track. It was slipping in the ranks thanks to Hag and Happy but it might be in the second spot behind Hag.
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OK I'm just half-way through and this is blowing my mind. This is even better than I expected! :o
1 listen in... Great album. I'm sure it'll grow even more on me though! :tup
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Album came a few days ago, still haven't listened too it
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First listen.. this is definitely going to take a few listens to make a sound judgement! Ljudet Innan is the initial standout track for me.
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Not that they were high expectations, but the album definately exceeded them. The only negative thing I can really say about the album is that because the dynamics are pronounced (no clipping), you really need a controlled listening environment to get the album. I tried to listen to it in the car on my drive to S. Carolina and even in my quiet as hell Prius it was noticable that some parts did were lost in the car noise.
That said, easily one of the most well produced albums I've ever heard.
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I tried to listen to it in the car on my drive to S. Carolina and even in my quiet as hell Prius it was noticable that some parts did were lost in the car noise.
Yep, this is definitely NOT a car CD.
Me likes it a lot so far.
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After a few more spins I must say that the album is really good. Don't get the negative feedback, I feel like the album offers lots if interesting ideas and good songs, to me it just feels like "it isnt progressive, therefor it isnt good"-bs.
For me at least it's nothing of the sort. It's just that it fails to retain any of my interest, so about halfway through the first song I'm already switching to something else. There are definitely some pretty parts, but that's about the extent of it, as they're few and far between.
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I didn't mean that as something negative. I think the album has parts that sound very much like Wilson and Åkerfeldt, but it is more minimalistic in a way, and for people who want something more uptempo (or just not liking the minimalistic part) I can see their PoV.
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My wife just called me to tell me the special edition arrived this afternoon :caffeine: now I have to wait until friday at least to give it a prooer first listen in vynil and with headphones
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After hearing a few tracks...this album reminds me *A LOT* of an album by Univers Zero called "Heresie" released in 1979.
At first I was sure, because I hadn't heard the UZ album in such a long time...but going back and listening to it right now, and I think there are quite a bit of similarities.
There are some differences...(the UZ album has drums)...but the "vibe" is EXTREMELY similar to my ears. One wonders if this wasn't in "inspiration corner" for one (or both) of the artists.
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After hearing a few tracks...this album reminds me *A LOT* of an album by Univers Zero called "Heresie" released in 1979.
At first I was sure, because I hadn't heard the UZ album in such a long time...but going back and listening to it right now, and I think there are quite a bit of similarities.
There are some differences...(the UZ album has drums)...but the "vibe" is EXTREMELY similar to my ears. One wonders if this wasn't in "inspiration corner" for one (or both) of the artists.
THAT'S what it reminded me of! Only Univers Zero is a LOT more experimental than this. Love that band.
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Just opened the package, I was kinda underwhelmed by it. The poster is not too great and the other stuff is just the normal vinyl edition plus the bluray edition with the same artwork, pictures etc. in both packages.
Hopefully I will be able to give it a listen tomorrow after I'm done with my roulette round.
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Finally got around to it! Great album! Will take me a few listens but really loved it particularly the last two songs.
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My copy arrived today.
I liked Heritage, and really liked Grace For Drowning. I was hoping for something very experimental and out there. When they released the video for Drag Ropes, it lined up pretty well with what I was hoping for.
After my first listen through, I'd say it's good, but not great. A bit underwhelming. It's not as out there as I was expecting, and at times felt a bit directionless, but not in a good way.
I'll give it a few more spins over the next few days to see if it grows on me.
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It really grows on you, it has a really specific atmosphere and beauty to it.
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Just opened the package, I was kinda underwhelmed by it. The poster is not too great and the other stuff is just the normal vinyl edition plus the bluray edition with the same artwork, pictures etc. in both packages.
Hopefully I will be able to give it a listen tomorrow after I'm done with my roulette round.
Me too. I dunno why, but I was expecting an actual boxset... not just the vinyl and CD put into a shipping box. :lol That said, I do think the poster included is pretty cool. The finish on the gatefold is a nice touch as well, and I have my signed photo framed up on my wall. :metal
Listened to the 5.1 mix earlier, nothing I can complain about there. ;D
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WAT
I don't have the signed picture yet, they sent me an email saying they would send it separately because they had some problems:
due to an unforeseen delay with the autographed poster, you will not receive this poster with your initial shipment. The signed 12” x 12” poster will be shipped to you separately as soon as possible. We will provide you with more information on this delivery as soon as we can.
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WAT
I don't have the signed picture yet, they sent me an email saying they would send it separately because they had some problems:
due to an unforeseen delay with the autographed poster, you will not receive this poster with your initial shipment. The signed 12” x 12” poster will be shipped to you separately as soon as possible. We will provide you with more information on this delivery as soon as we can.
Mine came a day before my boxset, actually. I would just keep checking, I got the same email but there didnt seem to be any delay in its shipping.
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Just listened to Storm Corrosion for the first time. It's so good I don't even know what to make of it, but either way I'm buzzing like crazy after that.
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^ I like your enthusiasm :laugh:
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Just gave this thing a listen and I'm not overly impressed. I mean it's fine and atmospheric and all, but it's a bit to dull to really get my attention.
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That said, easily one of the most well produced albums I've ever heard.
This. :o
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Really awesome album. Probably top5 so far this year. (I haven't really sat down and done a proper ranking)
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This album is amazing.
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Listened once. It's okay. More ambient than avant-garde at points and actually, well, not very avant-garde at all really.
Will have to give it some more listens, but it's probably going to be one of those things I need to be in the mood for in order to properly appreciate.
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It's definitely not weird, at least not for my standards. But it's great, and that all that matters really.
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I expected it to be weirder, so I don't quite get some of the "its too weird"-criticism. Even though it's unlike what both Wilson and Åkerfeldt has done before, I still feel like the music has characteristics from their different projects, and there are a few acoustic guitar-sections that reminds me of Opeth, and a few darker sections that remind me of Wilson.
Opinions I guess, though I recommend people to listen to it several times. While I enjoyed the first spin of the album, it took maybe 4-5 spins for it to click another step, and now I really like it. :hat
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I've tried multiple listens, but I get so bored :C
Unlike Heritage, where there was some songs that I adored, and it grew on me from there, with this album, there's not a song that I can jump into and enjoy.
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It's definitely not weird, at least not for my standards. But it's great, and that all that matters really.
This. For some reason I expected it to be like Comus. But it's not.
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I expected it to be weirder, so I don't quite get some of the "its too weird"-criticism. Even though it's unlike what both Wilson and Åkerfeldt has done before, I still feel like the music has characteristics from their different projects, and there are a few acoustic guitar-sections that reminds me of Opeth, and a few darker sections that remind me of Wilson.
This for me as well. It isn't very weird at all. Its just beautiful.
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I can't say I found it particularly weird either.
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Drag Ropes is a pretty weird song.
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The only thing that bothers me about the production (and SW's production in general really) is the high end. The clean electric guitar solo on Storm Corrosion hurts my ears. It sounds a bit distorted to me. There are similar problems on Arriving Somewhere, Track One, etc. I dunno if my ears are just very sensitive to things like this, but SW is the only artist I can think of I've encountered this problem with. Anyone else experience this? I don't think I've ever read this complaint from anyone so I'm a bit curious.
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Really? I love his clean guitar sound. It does have a little bit of distortion, but that's what I love about it.
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Really? I love his clean guitar sound. It does have a little bit of distortion, but that's what I love about it.
Yeah I was about to post that. I haven't listened to Storm Corrosion yet but in the rest of the examples you mentioned I find nothing wrong with it. In fact, I *love* his tone, the solo in Arriving probably has my favorite guitar tone by any band.
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the album has parts that sound very much like Wilson and Åkerfeldt, .
This x infinity. I heard Drag Ropes and it sounds exactly like a Wilson Akerfeldt collaboration. You've got Wilsons, ambience mixed with Akerfeldts Tone.
The best part I enjoy is the Harmonies. Man, i'm really getting into multi vocal harmonies like the one in Drag Ropes.
After a few more spins I must say that the album is really good. Don't get the negative feedback, I feel like the album offers lots if interesting ideas and good songs, to me it just feels like "it isnt Porcupine Tree or Opeth, therefor it isnt good"-bs.
Fix'deded. Thats what I feel is why people don't like it. I for one learned not to judge until I've heard the actual music from beginning to end, while listening to it as music treating it like nothing else but what it is.
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Drag Ropes is a pretty weird song.
YOU'RE A WEIRD SONG.
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Yeah, I don't dig it. I mean sure, I can understand what people like about it and what makes it a well produced album. But it just does not hold my attention even a little bit.
Oh well.
*cranks baying of the hounds*
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Drag Ropes is a pretty weird song.
YOU'RE A WEIRD SONG.
I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS BAD I JUST SAID IT WAS WIERD GAWD :'(
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Really? I love his clean guitar sound. It does have a little bit of distortion, but that's what I love about it.
Well, just so I'm clear I don't really mean the distortion in the guitar tone itself. I'm talking more about the way it is mixed in with everything else. The audio itself seems to distort, I wasn't talking about any distortion used on his guitar itself.
Plus its Mikael playing I think, which makes me think its SW doing something in the mixing. Not sure what it is exactly though.
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Yeah, I don't dig it. I mean sure, I can understand what people like about it and what makes it a well produced album. But it just does not hold my attention even a little bit.
Oh well.
*cranks baying of the hounds*
Tweety, I used to think you were cool :-\
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Listening to it for the first time, only on Hag now but I'm not loving this so far. It's not bad, it's not weird, it's just... uneventful. Some parts are great but other sections are 2-3 minutes of nothing. I think this is going to be a matter of finding the right situation to listen to it, and I can't think of one for now. I will give it at least 5 spins though before deciding whether I like it or not.
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I expected it to be weirder, so I don't quite get some of the "its too weird"-criticism. Even though it's unlike what both Wilson and Åkerfeldt has done before, I still feel like the music has characteristics from their different projects, and there are a few acoustic guitar-sections that reminds me of Opeth, and a few darker sections that remind me of Wilson.
Opinions I guess, though I recommend people to listen to it several times. While I enjoyed the first spin of the album, it took maybe 4-5 spins for it to click another step, and now I really like it. :hat
Just listening for the first time today, and I wouldn't say it's anywhere close to "too weird" (whereas The Drift is too weird for me) but it's definitely pretty fucked up. :lol
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Really? I love his clean guitar sound. It does have a little bit of distortion, but that's what I love about it.
Well, just so I'm clear I don't really mean the distortion in the guitar tone itself. I'm talking more about the way it is mixed in with everything else. The audio itself seems to distort, I wasn't talking about any distortion used on his guitar itself.
I agree. I think you mentioned the outro solo to Track One? Something about it just doesn't sound good. It need to be smoother and cleaner.
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So this album is just amazing all the way through. Not sure if I like "Ljudet Innan" or the title-track the most, but the others are really great as well.
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I really like Ljudet Innan, especially that final half of the song. Really gives me a Radiohead feel for some reason.
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It's just such a beautiful closing track, great way to end the album.
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I really like Ljudet Innan, especially that final half of the song. Really gives me a Radiohead feel for some reason.
I was thinking a mix of Radiohead and Sigur Ros. Lovely song.
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Ljudet Innan is slowly growing on me; it was originally the one song I wasn't overly fond of (I didn't dislike it, but I just liked all of the others more).
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It's pretty good. I wish the outro extended the uplifting choir part, though.
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It's pretty good. I wish the outro extended the uplifting choir part, though.
I disagree I think it's a great way to close the album.
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Listening to the album for the first time, right now.
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After simmering over the album, I think that it's not going to go down as a "classic" like GFD will. It's a solid debut attempt, but in five years, I don't see anyone raving about it anymore.
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I like it, but I like Heritage a lot more.
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I like it, but I like Grace for Drowning a lot more.
This. Keep in mind, this is only after one listen.
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I listened to the album through again today. I'm definitely liking it more. Still not up with Grace For Drowning, but definitely worth checking out.
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I still don't "get" the album which means it needs more spins
though I do like it
Ljudet Innan is incredibly though, far and away my favorite right now.
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Ranking:
1. Drag Ropes
2. Hag
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3. Storm Corrosion
4. Ljudet Innan
5. Lock Howl
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6. Happy
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1: Storm Corrosion
2: Drag Ropes
3: Hag
4: Happy
5: Ljudet Innan
6: Lock Howl
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On my first listen, I really like "Storm Corrosion" and Drag Ropes was good as well. After some of the reactions places/people have had, I expected to come in and be disappointed but so far at least I like it, although I did really like Heritage compared to some people...
Overall I agree though that I hope they don't continue down this path and go back to their old style of music, at least somewhat.
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1: Hag
2: Storm Corrosion
3. Ljudet Innan
4: Drag Ropes
5: Lock Howl
6: Happy
Happy is the only song that i dont absolutely love, and even still it has its awesome parts.
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On my first listen, I really like "Storm Corrosion" and Drag Ropes was good as well. After some of the reactions places/people have had, I expected to come in and be disappointed but so far at least I like it, although I did really like Heritage compared to some people...
My feelings exactly. Apart from Ljudet innan, none of the songs made me think "when will this end?".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6CHR9fBVI <-- Interview with Steven Wilson. (there are several parts)
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Listening to the album for the first time, and during Happy there was thunder... and the best part was I couldn't tell if it had just come from the music or from outside at first.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6CHR9fBVI <-- Interview with Steven Wilson. (there are several parts)
He recommends a track by Throbbing Gristle called "Slug Bait". I listened to it a few days ago and it is one of the most disturbing pieces of music I've ever heard.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6CHR9fBVI <-- Interview with Steven Wilson. (there are several parts)
Will bookmark and check out later.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6CHR9fBVI <-- Interview with Steven Wilson. (there are several parts)
He recommends a track by Throbbing Gristle called "Slug Bait". I listened to it a few days ago and it is one of the most disturbing pieces of music I've ever heard.
Just listened to it as well. Very creepy.
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The lyrics are what make it so gnarly.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN6CHR9fBVI <-- Interview with Steven Wilson. (there are several parts)
He recommends a track by Throbbing Gristle called "Slug Bait". I listened to it a few days ago and it is one of the most disturbing pieces of music I've ever heard.
Just listened to it as well. Very creepy.
Definitely didn't see that coming. O_O
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sort of reminds me of Frankie Teardrop by Suicide
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I thought it was a great interview. I really like Faceculture, to me they often go deeper then just asking the normal questions, and their interviews always (or in most cases) turn out great. This one was no exception. :)
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Man, I haven't truly enjoyed or watched an entire interview in a long time but that was an amazing interview. Wonderful questions, polite, the interviewer didn't seem to lead the interviewee like so many do, and best of all Wilson seemed to enjoy the questions and was very expansive in his answers. Awesome stuff. I really like his insight into the creation of music and where it comes from as well as how it's created. The best part came at the very end though whenever he touched upon something that I had wondered about since I first got into music as a kid: The release of albums and the entry into the studio.
That has always baffled me and Wilson seems like the only fucking brain in the industry that even cares about something like that. I don't give two shits when you're going into the studio and I don't want to know when the album will be out; tell us at your leisure whenever you know you have material that is up to par with your standards and you actually have a viable outline of when it will be released. So many times bands will do what Wilson said and then months later they say "Oh, well it'll have to be pushed back"... well no fucking shit, you twat; you stated an album would be out before material was even written or thought of. That has always irked me and it made me love the man even more to hear someone finally bring that up. Lordy I feel like my brain came.
P.S. I don't know if it's my car's sound system or you guys are just nuts but SC sounds fucking awesome in the car. I just drove back from a very stormy downtown and it is the only time where I actually liked sitting in traffic, lighting and thunder all around, rain pouring so hard I can barely see the car in front of me... It was surreal, all thanks to SC. Happy sounded especially amazing, but Hag will forever drown me in a melancholic euphoria. After hearing all the bad things about how it sounds in a car setting, I expected to turn it off but I did the opposite and cranked that shit up. Hag is definitely my favorite track, far and away.
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So yeah, this is still all kinds of awesome. :hat
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Yeah. I don't think it'll go down as a classic SW or MA album, but it's a neat thing they did. Maybe it's like LTE is to DT - you're not going to listen to it often, but when you do it's a real treat.
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The title-track and "Ljudet Innan" makes it awesome. The rest of the songs are great, but those two stand out for me.
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sort of reminds me of Frankie Teardrop by Suicide
This...can never be a good thing.
Ever.
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I still absolutely adore every minute of this album. It's definitely a 'seasonal' album for me, but I really love each track. They all stand very well on their own, but it's an experience to be in the right setting and listen to the album in its entirety. Hag is truly amazing. Really, really want the guys to do something like this again. Maybe even a straight up follow-up album.
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It's a good album, although it requires from me to be in a very special mood in order for me to fully enjoy it. Drag ropes is the absolute highlight.
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Amazing album. I really hope they do a follow-up eventually.
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"Drag Ropes" is pretty cool, the rest is too ambient (and boring) for me. Moments of coolness sprinkled on top of long lengths of nothing.
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I gave it a listen today. Still holds up well. The title track is probably my favorite.
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Listened to this album the other night while falling asleep... God, I love it so very much. The title track and Ljudet Innan are just absolutely mindbogglingly beautiful. Hag is also up there.
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SW tweeted earlier today that he received a grammy nomination for the surround sound version of this; it is his 4th nomination in that category (Fear of a Blank Planet, The Incident, Grace for Downing and now this).
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Oh wow, very nice.
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Hopefully he gets it this time around. :smiley:
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Hopefully he gets it this time around. :smiley:
Yeah, he would definitely deserve it.
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No way he will get it, but I would be happy for him. He didn't win it with GfD and I'd say his chances are lower with SC.
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Yeah, he keeps getting nominated but I'd be really surprised to see him actually win. Either way, it's cool to see him get some recognition :)
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Yeah, he keeps getting nominated but I'd be really surprised to see him actually win. Either way, it's cool to see him get some recognition :)
This. One day maybe he will get the recognition he deserves, but it won't be this time and it won't be this album. Although it should be.
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True. 4 nominations in 5 years is pretty awesome!
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Bump for ColdFireYYZ.
I still love this album to death. :coolio
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Haha thanks! I always get a late-fall/winter vibe from the album, so I'm going to be playing this a lot over the next couple of months.
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I haven't listened to this album a lot recently, but I still enjoy the songs when I happen to listen to them. Hopefully Mikael and Steven will find enough time to record a followup at some point, because I'd love to hear more of this kind of unique music!
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Ljudet Innan is one of my favorite songs ever. It's the perfect song to listen to when drifting off into a sleep.
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The title track is one of my favorite songs ever.
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Yeah, definitely the two strongest tracks, I think.
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I'll go out on a limb and say that Ljudet Innan and Storm Corrosion are two of the best songs that both Mikael/SW has done (in all their projects). I rarely listen to the album though. I like it, but it never clicked that big for me as an album. Those two songs though...
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Haven't listened to this in a while. Need to remedy that.
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Drag Ropes, Hag and Lock Howl are my favourites off this haunting and unique album. And I rarely use that word to describe an album, but I genuinely can't think of anything else that sounds like it.
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I'll go out on a limb and say that Ljudet Innan and Storm Corrosion are two of the best songs that both Mikael/SW has done (in all their projects).
I think I've said it before, but if I were to rank all of the albums I've heard from both Mikael and Steven Wilson together, the top three would be Blackwater Park, Fear Of A Blank Planet, then Storm Corrosion.
It's funny, because I went into the album when it came out not expecting to like it at all. I guess the two reasons I like it so much are A) how much atmosphere it has and how it covers a bunch of different moods instead of sticking with one throughout, and B) unlike a lot of other ambient records, it's still got a lot of melody and memorable musical parts to it.
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I still love them all and it's funny to see a rating of mine. This was perhaps the last one I've done and I don't feel the need to do one ever again. I find them pretty arbitrary (now) and extremely limited in how much I actually like each song I'm rating; I'm simply too all over the place to ever have an actual list that lasts in accuracy for more than a few hours.
I digress. The album is still amazing and I think this will be one of the few albums that stands the test of time; I can see myself enjoying this decades from now in the fallout as my iPhone finally dies as the ending echoes of the ancient music will ring throughout the desolate, dead world. :millahhhh :yarr
I do know that most of the time, my favorites are Ljudet Innan and Hag; they're both equally beautiful and dreadful all at once.
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I think my main problem with the album is not that the individual songs are bad or lacking, but that the album as a whole just feels all over the place. Most of the tracks are atmospheric, but a track like Lock Howl doesn't sound like it should belong on the same album as a song like Ljudet Innan.
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Been listening to this album the past few days and loving it more than ever. I saw it ranked in Prog Magazine's top 100 prog albums and it compelled me to give it a fresh spin. Beautiful stuff here. Like someone said earlier, I can see myself listening to, and enjoying, this album decades from now. It makes me want to close my eyes and just feel the music.
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was this video shared here already?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clUXb6yqS8Y
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Yeah, definitely the two strongest tracks, I think.
I agree 100%
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I need to listen to this again.
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I finally got around to listening to this. Initial impression is that it's boring overall with some nice melodies and other parts mixed in. Not terrible but not great either. Surprised by the praise for Hag since it did absolutely nothing for me. I'll give it another couple of spins but this just isn't my cup of tea at the moment.
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Same here - I love most of what Steven puts out, but I just can't get into this record.
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I like the first two tracks and that's pretty much it.
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I watched a recent YT video of Drag Ropes performed live by SW. Although I'm not too fond of the studio version, the live rendition sounded pretty good.
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This album just transcends all of your opinions. *sticks nose in air, farts in general direction, sips tea*
:P
Shit, I'm surprised as many people liked this as they did. But this is at times my favorite music. Hag still gives me dem bumps of geese. Ljudet Innan is still one of the most gorgeous things ever. I'm just a stickler for really gorgeous, minimalistic, quiet ambiance that still packs an emotional punch with a side of ephemeral dread. Pretty god damn niche, but I love it so much.
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Pretty much. I don't LOVE every track but I love the vibe of the album. And yeah, Ljudet is gorgeous indeed.
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It's a great album. Better than the last two Opeth albums and the last two SW albums IMO. But not as good as the best MÅ or SW has done.
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Shit, I'm surprised as many people liked this as they did. But this is at times my favorite music. Hag still gives me dem bumps of geese. Ljudet Innan is still one of the most gorgeous things ever. I'm just a stickler for really gorgeous, minimalistic, quiet ambiance that still packs an emotional punch with a side of ephemeral dread. Pretty god damn niche, but I love it so much.
Agreed
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I love this album, and baring Damnation and a few SW / PT records, this is my favourite thing Mikael or Steven has ever done. And I'm usually not into this kind of music too.
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Listened to this a few times the other day. Still very cool.
Probably my favorite release from either one of those guys.
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I really want these two to do another album together.
This record might be my favorite of the decade thus far.
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After you ressurected the topic, I thought there would be news about a new album. :(
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Heh, I was afraid someone would think that. :facepalm:
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Yeah I'd love for another album to happen as well. This is still one of my favorite albums from either of them. I cannot believe it's a few years old already...uggggh fuck youuuuu, time!
Also it made me miss Jackie. JACKIIIEEEEEE! *summons*
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From SW today:
It’s exactly 10 years today since Storm Corrosion - my collaboration with Mikael Åkerfeldt - was originally released, still one of my favourites, a strange-beautiful spiritual experience of an album. Look out later this year for an anniversary edition featuring a brand new Dolby Atmos mix, a live version of 'Drag Ropes’ recorded at the Royal Albert Hall in 2015, and other bonus material. More details soon...
Oh, hell yes (to the bolded). :hat :hat
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*swoops in*
Storm Corrosion is the best album Steven Wilson or Mikael Åkerfeldt released in the last decade.
*leaves*
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*swoops in*
Storm Corrosion is the best album Steven Wilson or Mikael Åkerfeldt released in the last decade.
*leaves*
Good thing you said this today because then it wouldn't be factual tomorrow. :lol
From SW today:
It’s exactly 10 years today since Storm Corrosion - my collaboration with Mikael Åkerfeldt - was originally released, still one of my favourites, a strange-beautiful spiritual experience of an album. Look out later this year for an anniversary edition featuring a brand new Dolby Atmos mix, a live version of 'Drag Ropes’ recorded at the Royal Albert Hall in 2015, and other bonus material. More details soon...
Oh, hell yes (to the bolded). :hat :hat
Has it *really* been ten years? I almost forgot it's been that long. I kind of wished they continued their partnership and released more. I might check out this anniversary edition, but I cannot even recall the last time I spun the original release, so I'm not sure if I'm invested enough in the project/album to warrant buying it again, especially since I don't have a sound system worthy of enough of a Dolby Atmos mix.
-Marc.
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Storm Corrosion was ten years ago?! Why does my brain keep thinking it was a 2015 project?
I remember continuously putting off buying this one, keeping it on my "for later" list. And now here comes a 10th Anniversary edition to check out. :lol
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I love this album and did see Steven Wilson tweet that out. I'm excited about that live version as I'd wonder how they'd interpret it live.
The album is one of my comfort listens, it's so chill and the vibe always puts me at ease. I love the bluray audio of it already and might now look to invest in a Dolby Atmos system if that's feasible.
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In!